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1 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 0.2021 | Yeah I could uh- I could throw a baseball harder | 2.5499 |
3 | | 2.7203 | than any of my peers at that time. | 4.6658 |
4 | PRV_int_01 | 4.6259 | Okay. | 4.9714 |
5 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 5.3170 | And uh, | 6.0033 |
7 | | 6.3773 | didn't know how to throw a curve, | 8.0529 |
9 | | 8.4032 | but I would throw it so hard /RD-NAME-1/ that | 10.2350 |
11 | | 10.6279 | it would | 11.0517 |
13 | | 11.4827 | go up and down and the catcher would tell me, say, | 13.7500 |
15 | | 14.0292 | are you putting anything on it? I say, | 15.6765 |
17 | | 16.0106 | no, I'm just throwing it straight over head. | 17.7146 |
19 | | 18.1974 | He said, well man, ease up on it a little bit. He said because it's- it's- it's- I said, I don't know what- maybe it's a fast ball. | 24.0743 |
20 | PRV_int_01 | 24.1737 | Ah. | 24.4719 |
21 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 24.8222 | And uh, | 25.2388 |
23 | | 25.4139 | Coach /RD-NAME-2/ | 26.2754 |
25 | | 26.9002 | um, | 27.6623 |
27 | | 29.6247 | who was- who would | 30.6329 |
29 | | 31.3713 | turn out to be my first football coach, | 33.1321 |
30 | PRV_int_01 | 33.3357 | Uh-huh. | 33.6717 |
31 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 33.8848 | he saw the football ability | 35.2697 |
33 | | 35.8377 | uh, in me because | 36.9784 |
35 | | 37.3334 | during the weekend, | 38.4316 |
37 | | 38.8103 | all of my cronies- | 40.1167 |
39 | | 40.5738 | uh, Mrs. uh /RD-NAME-1/ down here, | 43.1867 |
41 | | 43.3902 | her- | 43.7689 |
43 | | 44.1949 | her brother- | 44.8055 |
45 | | 45.1321 | brother's | 45.7664 |
47 | | 46.6922 | t- uh, /RD-NAME-2/ | 47.5016 |
48 | PRV_int_01 | 47.7051 | Mm-hm. | 48.2163 |
49 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 48.4719 | and /RD-NAME-1/ | 49.3571 |
50 | PRV_int_01 | 49.6222 | Mm-hm. | 49.9819 |
51 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 51.0091 | uh, and /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-4/ and /RD-NAME-4/, | 54.2021 |
53 | | 54.6329 | aw man we would get together a- and get a football team up, | 57.1274 |
54 | PRV_int_01 | 57.3783 | Mm-hm. | 57.7380 |
55 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 57.6907 | and | 58.2208 |
56 | | 60.2353 | I just- | 60.7086 |
58 | | 61.0920 | they just couldn't catch me. | 62.2328 |
59 | PRV_int_01 | 62.6115 | Okay. | 62.9381 |
60 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 63.5676 | And so, I- I- I was a r- running back. I would become | 66.0885 |
62 | | 66.5571 | the first running back in the family. | 68.2991 |
63 | PRV_int_01 | 68.4411 | /??/ | 68.8197 |
64 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 69.3783 | <cough> Excuse me. | 70.2161 |
65 | PRV_int_01 | 70.7064 | So those were the guys you used to hang out with most? Those- those guys? | 74.0387 |
66 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 74.1050 | <sneeze> | 75.6244 |
68 | | 77.5158 | You /may to/ put that- | 78.2684 |
70 | | 78.4199 | Okay. | 78.8033 |
71 | PRV_int_01 | 78.7749 | <laugh> That'll get you. | 79.9440 |
72 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 79.9156 | No- /RD-NAME-2/ | 80.8008 |
73 | | 81.8469 | which is my older brother, and /RD-NAME-1/ which is /RD-NAME-2/- /RD-NAME-2/'s oldest brother, | 85.8730 |
74 | PRV_int_01 | 86.0766 | Uh-huh. | 86.4600 |
75 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 87.0233 | and /RD-NAME-1/ | 87.8374 |
77 | | 88.1972 | /RD-NAME-3/, | 88.6705 |
79 | | 89.1655 | which is /RD-NAME-4/'s oldest brother, | 90.7418 |
80 | PRV_int_01 | 90.8080 | Okay. | 91.1630 |
81 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 91.1962 | they s- hung out together. They were sort of a- | 93.3499 |
83 | | 94.5975 | a little bit ahead of us. | 95.5395 |
84 | PRV_int_01 | 95.5537 | Mm-hm. | 95.8992 |
85 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 96.0317 | But at the same time, | 96.9737 |
87 | | 97.7405 | they were responsible | 98.8339 |
88 | PRV_int_01 | 99.1558 | Mm-hm. | 99.5960 |
89 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 99.8706 | <cough> | 100.3486 |
91 | | 100.5218 | for us | 101.2744 |
93 | | 102.2258 | and like, I was responsible for | 104.4032 |
95 | | 104.8718 | my younger brother. | 105.6386 |
96 | PRV_int_01 | 105.8875 | Mm-hm. | 106.1952 |
97 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 107.4495 | But um, | 108.2826 |
99 | | 109.3950 | we- we would- we would play- play together. We'd get- get out there with 'em. | 112.7036 |
101 | | 113.7099 | And these guys would make the varsity team | 116.2233 |
102 | PRV_int_01 | 116.5073 | [Mm-hm.] | 116.8150 |
103 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 116.5168 | [up] | 116.8150 |
104 | | 117.3309 | at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 117.9842 |
106 | | 118.1478 | <cough> | 120.0175 |
107 | PRV_int_01 | 120.0743 | You wanna grab some water? | 121.3760 |
108 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 121.3334 | Yeah you want some too? | 122.1523 |
109 | PRV_int_01 | 122.5499 | Uh, sure. | 123.3262 |
110 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 127.2388 | Well uh, speaking of Coach /RD-NAME-2/ | 129.6859 |
112 | | 130.2871 | <cough> | 130.8646 |
114 | | 131.5584 | and uh- | 132.2116 |
116 | | 134.1050 | I would say now the year is about fifty- nineteen fifty five. | 137.8424 |
117 | PRV_int_01 | 137.9087 | Mm-hm. | 138.3631 |
118 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 139.8541 | Because /RD-NAME-2/ would graduate | 141.5155 |
120 | | 142.0220 | that year they would win um, | 143.5821 |
122 | | 144.6755 | state championship for double A ball playing. | 146.9570 |
123 | PRV_int_01 | 147.3073 | Okay. | 147.6528 |
124 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 147.7617 | And uh, h- h- /wait/. | 149.1592 |
126 | | 149.6152 | He would graduate from high school and daddy at that time, | 152.1997 |
128 | | 152.7771 | was commuting back and forth | 154.2114 |
130 | | 155.7809 | from Newport News, Virginia. He work in the ship yard. | 158.2565 |
131 | PRV_int_01 | 158.2707 | Oh really? | 158.7061 |
132 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 159.0233 | And uh, | 159.7664 |
134 | | 160.2682 | I- I- t- He mighta been getting tired and so he decided, he said he was gonna move the family | 164.8481 |
136 | | 165.5392 | up | 165.7522 |
138 | | 166.7253 | to Virginia. | 167.3265 |
140 | | 168.1453 | I didn't wanna go | 169.1536 |
142 | | 169.6695 | because | 170.3464 |
144 | | 170.6493 | I was just coming into | 172.1924 |
146 | | 172.7490 | /ecstablishing/ myself as a running back. | 174.7039 |
147 | PRV_int_01 | 174.9548 | Okay. | 175.2624 |
148 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 175.2104 | I was being sought by Morgan State, | 177.2836 |
149 | PRV_int_01 | 177.5818 | Oh [okay.] | 177.9463 |
150 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 177.8374 | [and] um, | 178.8456 |
151 | | 179.4306 | <ts> | 179.6105 |
153 | | 179.9134 | it was two or three other colleges that Coach | 181.9062 |
155 | | 182.3417 | tried to tell daddy. | 183.3451 |
157 | | 183.9179 | He said, Mr /RD-NAME-2/, | 184.8910 |
159 | | 185.5915 | y- y- can't you let him stay down here? Can't he stay with somebody? | 188.5547 |
160 | PRV_int_01 | 188.5925 | Mm-hm. | 189.1321 |
161 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 189.2789 | And uh, | 189.9321 |
163 | | 190.9904 | he and daddy took a little short walk down into the path. | 194.0434 |
165 | | 194.7819 | I- I guess they was talking about why he couldn't afford to- you know, I had to stay close to him. | 198.8838 |
166 | PRV_int_01 | 199.0400 | Mm. | 199.4991 |
167 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 199.9062 | But uh, | 200.3985 |
169 | | 201.0091 | I didn't like it. | 201.7617 |
170 | PRV_int_01 | 201.9964 | Mm-hm. | 202.4176 |
171 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 202.4318 | The idea of me | 203.7335 |
173 | | 203.9513 | leaving here, | 204.7276 |
174 | PRV_int_01 | 204.8317 | Mm-hm. | 205.1914 |
175 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 205.5370 | but the /rule/ would be July | 206.9949 |
177 | | 207.6528 | of nineteen fifty six that we would pack up | 209.5773 |
179 | | 210.7702 | and uh, | 211.4376 |
181 | | 212.0718 | move to Virginia. | 212.8907 |
183 | | 213.6149 | And | 214.2161 |
185 | | 215.9276 | not knowing what fate would um- | 218.1429 |
187 | | 219.1416 | would have in store, | 220.4291 |
189 | | 221.4685 | I would move next door to um, | 223.5843 |
191 | | 225.1889 | a very talented | 226.4622 |
193 | | 226.9809 | group- family. | 227.6862 |
194 | PRV_int_01 | 228.0270 | Okay. | 228.3962 |
195 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 228.6329 | Um, | 229.2246 |
197 | | 230.6351 | the /RD-NAME-3/, | 231.7144 |
198 | PRV_int_01 | 232.0011 | Okay. | 232.5454 |
199 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 233.2791 | uh, they would be my first group. | 234.8459 |
200 | PRV_int_01 | 235.1441 | Oh [okay.] | 235.6837 |
201 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 235.3618 | [that I would] form a group. | 236.5168 |
202 | PRV_int_01 | 237.2126 | Now how old were you at the time when you first moved there? | 239.6013 |
203 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 239.7903 | Sixteen years old. | 240.8175 |
204 | PRV_int_01 | 240.8317 | Okay. | 241.2293 |
205 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 241.4186 | And I would start | 242.2328 |
207 | | 242.4553 | uh, at /RD-SCHOOL-2/- | 243.8090 |
208 | PRV_int_01 | 244.3581 | Mm-hm. | 244.6610 |
209 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 244.6022 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School | 245.4448 |
210 | | 245.9513 | and complete my uh, | 247.2293 |
212 | | 247.5890 | eleventh and twelfth grade up there. | 249.1037 |
213 | PRV_int_01 | 249.2647 | Mm-hm. | 249.6765 |
214 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 250.1924 | But um, | 251.1000 |
216 | | 251.9891 | this is their sister. This is- would be my first um- | 255.2268 |
218 | | 257.4921 | my first group. This is- this picture here is in- | 259.6600 |
220 | | 260.0387 | is in /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 260.8103 |
221 | PRV_int_01 | 261.4445 | Okay. | 261.8753 |
222 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 261.8706 | And this is /RD-NAME-2/. | 262.7983 |
223 | PRV_int_01 | 263.2697 | Okay. | 263.7572 |
224 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 263.7951 | Uh, and this is /RD-NAME-3/ and this is /RD-NAME-3/. | 266.0955 |
226 | | 266.4647 | And this group was called | 267.5913 |
228 | | 267.9416 | Chico- | 268.5170 |
230 | | 268.9194 | I'm Chico | 269.5679 |
231 | PRV_int_01 | 269.6010 | Uh-huh. | 269.9513 |
232 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 270.0554 | and the Calypsoettes. | 271.2019 |
233 | PRV_int_01 | 271.1110 | That's you? | 271.4849 |
234 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 271.7736 | Uh-huh. | 272.1192 |
235 | PRV_int_01 | 272.1002 | Wow! <laugh> [How old] were you in this picture? | 274.0391 |
236 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 272.5073 | [Yeah we would-] | 273.0469 |
237 | | 274.1546 | Um, | 274.8456 |
239 | | 275.3880 | musta been about | 276.1169 |
241 | | 276.6234 | <ts> | 276.8412 |
243 | | 277.9819 | eighteen, [seventeen], eighteen years old. [<laugh>] | 280.5853 |
244 | PRV_int_01 | 278.6541 | [Okay.] | 279.2031 |
246 | | 280.0930 | [Okay.] | 280.6563 |
247 | | 281.0661 | So it was [called] | 281.7525 |
248 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 281.3596 | [<cough>] | 281.8424 |
249 | PRV_int_01 | 281.9465 | Chico and- | 283.0116 |
250 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 283.0305 | The Calypsoettes. | 283.9393 |
251 | PRV_int_01 | 283.9961 | Calypsoettes. [Okay.] | 285.4587 |
252 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 284.9617 | [Yeah.] | 285.3357 |
253 | | 285.6055 | Belafonte had just came out | 287.3123 |
255 | | 287.6578 | with (singing) day oh. | 288.9784 |
256 | PRV_int_01 | 289.0210 | Mm-hm. | 289.4660 |
257 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 289.4849 | Me say [day oh.] | 290.5452 |
258 | PRV_int_01 | 290.4553 | [Right.] | 290.7156 |
259 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 290.9807 | And we used to- | 291.5250 |
261 | | 291.8564 | used to do that. | 292.3845 |
262 | PRV_int_01 | 292.6212 | [<laugh>] | 292.8720 |
263 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 292.7206 | [But] it was- it was- | 293.4827 |
264 | | 293.6720 | it was her brothers that would um- | 295.4565 |
266 | | 297.0043 | that I would do s- do s- do some things with. | 299.1000 |
267 | PRV_int_01 | 299.1182 | Mm-hm. | 299.5963 |
268 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 299.7951 | Uh, | 300.3441 |
270 | | 300.6234 | when we were- | 301.1725 |
272 | | 301.5796 | would hook up and- and blend and bond | 304.1120 |
274 | | 304.6516 | and um, | 305.7619 |
276 | | 306.5998 | write songs and sing. | 308.3227 |
278 | | 308.5547 | And my first group | 309.5723 |
280 | | 309.8469 | with them would be called the Swans. | 311.6862 |
281 | PRV_int_01 | 311.7761 | Mm-hm. | 312.2637 |
282 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 312.3915 | And did you know that they would end up- | 314.0434 |
284 | | 315.2789 | after I would take 'em to New York. I bought me a fifty seven Chevrolet, | 318.0838 |
285 | PRV_int_01 | 318.0743 | Mm-hm. | 318.4719 |
286 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 318.9500 | and uh, | 319.6411 |
288 | | 321.4635 | and Aunt /RD-NAME-2/ and Uncle /RD-NAME-1/ | 322.9308 |
290 | | 323.0614 | were up in New York at that time too. | 324.8128 |
292 | | 325.3760 | <clears throat> | 325.7878 |
294 | | 326.1902 | But | 326.3795 |
296 | | 326.6446 | they wanted to go, | 327.5534 |
298 | | 328.8436 | and | 329.3028 |
300 | | 329.7004 | to try out for the Apollo Theater. | 331.4423 |
301 | PRV_int_01 | 331.5654 | Okay. | 331.9062 |
302 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 332.3937 | Well my Uncle /RD-NAME-1/ had already filled me in | 334.7557 |
304 | | 335.7667 | about Harlem, | 336.8412 |
305 | PRV_int_01 | 337.0636 | Mm-hm. | 337.4234 |
306 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 337.8588 | that it | 338.3464 |
308 | | 338.5405 | um- | 339.1132 |
310 | | 341.0709 | it was just a- | 342.2163 |
312 | | 343.6411 | a rough place | 344.6067 |
314 | | 345.3830 | to try to find your- | 346.6894 |
316 | | 347.3596 | your stardom. | 348.2589 |
317 | PRV_int_01 | 348.3725 | Hm. | 348.5998 |
318 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 349.1394 | And um, | 350.0340 |
320 | | 350.4221 | and at- | 350.7582 |
321 | PRV_int_01 | 350.6162 | Uncle /RD-NAME-1/? | 351.4019 |
322 | | 351.7191 | Was that- | 352.0646 |
323 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 351.9368 | Uncle /RD-NAME-1/ and Aunt /RD-NAME-2/ right, [uh-huh.] | 353.5963 |
324 | PRV_int_01 | 353.4211 | [Now] he was | 354.1832 |
325 | | 354.5524 | already up | 355.1394 |
326 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 355.5038 | [Right.] | 355.8257 |
327 | PRV_int_01 | 355.5228 | [in-] | 355.8115 |
328 | | 355.9772 | in Harlem? | 356.5594 |
329 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 356.5925 | No, he- he lived in- they lived in Brooklyn. | 358.3486 |
330 | PRV_int_01 | 358.3676 | Okay. | 358.7604 |
331 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 359.1277 | But uh, | 359.6436 |
333 | | 360.0507 | these brothers were tryna tell, you know, tell us say, man we got to go the Apollo Theater. | 364.1356 |
334 | PRV_int_01 | 364.2634 | Mm-hm. | 364.8030 |
335 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 364.7679 | <clears throat> | 365.2791 |
336 | | 365.7619 | And I was a little nervous anyway because | 367.2151 |
338 | | 367.7452 | I had already seen | 369.0091 |
340 | | 369.5487 | how um, | 370.4764 |
342 | | 373.1630 | unethical and uncouth | 374.7251 |
344 | | 375.9842 | we could be | 376.6042 |
346 | | 376.8957 | [culture-wise.] | 377.7761 |
347 | PRV_int_01 | 377.6010 | [Mm.] | 377.9891 |
348 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 378.1595 | You know, as- for as wild [and uh], | 380.4411 |
349 | PRV_int_01 | 379.7500 | [Mm-hm.] | 380.1050 |
350 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 381.0943 | just crazy, | 381.6907 |
351 | PRV_int_01 | 381.8232 | Mm-hm. | 382.1782 |
352 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 382.1830 | and I knew this- | 382.9288 |
354 | | 383.0709 | that wont my cup of tea. | 384.1501 |
355 | PRV_int_01 | 384.2495 | Okay. | 384.6376 |
356 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 384.7844 | The way I was brought up, [you know], and I said I want to sing, | 387.6291 |
357 | PRV_int_01 | 385.9582 | [Right.] | 386.2659 |
358 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 388.0504 | I said, but I don't wanna sing at the Apollo Theater, I said, because | 390.5808 |
360 | | 391.1536 | I understand that if they don't like you, | 392.8103 |
362 | | 393.8516 | you could be really singing. | 395.1466 |
364 | | 396.2495 | I said they will have this guy to come out there with a- | 398.8623 |
366 | | 399.2173 | a cane, | 399.9605 |
368 | | 400.3392 | and pull it around your neck and pull you off [stage.] | 402.4009 |
369 | PRV_int_01 | 402.3157 | [Mm-hm.] | 402.7607 |
370 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 402.7749 | And I say uh, | 403.6316 |
372 | | 404.3133 | they just don't understand <laugh> | 406.0741 |
373 | PRV_int_01 | 406.2567 | [Mm-hm.] | 406.7253 |
374 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 406.5407 | [my] kind of singing, fellas. | 408.0980 |
375 | PRV_int_01 | 408.0412 | Mm-hm. | 408.5287 |
376 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 408.4719 | And I said, but if y'all want to go over there and pay them dues, | 410.9381 |
377 | | 411.3830 | you go ahead on. I say, I- | 412.6070 |
379 | | 412.7679 | I ain't got to sing that bad. | 413.7809 |
380 | PRV_int_01 | 413.7572 | [Mm-hm-hm.] | 414.8175 |
381 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 414.1548 | [<clears throat>] | 414.6092 |
382 | | 414.9406 | Cause I was a ballad singer. | 416.2281 |
383 | PRV_int_01 | 416.2659 | Yeah. | 416.5641 |
384 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 416.5925 | Smooth. | 417.3073 |
385 | PRV_int_01 | 417.2410 | Right. | 417.5297 |
386 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 417.9064 | And uh, | 418.5454 |
388 | | 419.3265 | back in the day, you know, | 420.4104 |
390 | | 421.1299 | sm- being smooth wont too cool [/unintelligible/.] | 423.4871 |
391 | PRV_int_01 | 422.7440 | [Okay.] | 423.2694 |
392 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 423.7570 | If you wont jumping up and screaming and | 425.8566 |
393 | PRV_int_01 | 426.0554 | Mm. | 426.4956 |
394 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 426.5950 | swinging, | 427.2198 |
396 | | 427.6032 | you just wont- you- they w- it wasn't anything that they wanna do. | 430.5048 |
397 | PRV_int_01 | 430.4792 | Really? | 430.8484 |
398 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 431.0709 | And so I was r- a little | 432.7512 |
400 | | 433.6932 | reluctant. But I would still end up go- in- going in there singing. | 437.3359 |
401 | PRV_int_01 | 437.3407 | Really? | 437.7004 |
402 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 437.7856 | Yeah, later on. | 438.5998 |
403 | PRV_int_01 | 438.6660 | Okay. | 439.0684 |
404 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 439.2388 | And uh, | 439.9156 |
406 | | 440.8197 | but um, | 441.6670 |
408 | | 442.6354 | they would write songs like um, | 444.4672 |
410 | | 445.1914 | Thin Line Between Love and Hate? | 446.6635 |
411 | PRV_int_01 | 446.8529 | Uh-huh. | 447.2599 |
412 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 447.2126 | You seen that movie yet? | 447.9700 |
413 | PRV_int_01 | 448.2993 | Yeah I- yeah I think I [/?/] | 449.9465 |
414 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 449.6815 | [Martin] Lawrence. | 450.4530 |
415 | PRV_int_01 | 450.7134 | Okay. | 451.1346 |
416 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 451.3003 | [Yeah.] | 451.5717 |
417 | PRV_int_01 | 451.3003 | [Yeah.] Yeah. | 452.1523 |
418 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 452.4127 | And uh, you know, his roots are down here too. | 454.4906 |
419 | PRV_int_01 | 454.7490 | I didn't know that. | 455.3785 |
420 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 455.4921 | Yeah. | 455.7903 |
421 | PRV_int_01 | 455.9181 | Where is Martin Lawrence [from?] | 457.3050 |
422 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 457.0589 | [Uh] Mrs. /RD-NAME-4/ | 459.0611 |
423 | | 459.6339 | was a /RD-NAME-2/ before she married Mr. /RD-NAME-1/. | 461.5063 |
424 | PRV_int_01 | 461.6673 | Oh. | 462.1169 |
425 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 462.2163 | That's his aunt. | 463.5464 |
426 | PRV_int_01 | 463.9440 | Really? | 464.2186 |
427 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 464.4174 | Yeah. | 464.7156 |
428 | PRV_int_01 | 465.2694 | And- | 465.5345 |
430 | | 465.7144 | and so he grew up down here or he- | 467.3927 |
431 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 467.3785 | Well born- he mighta been born in Washington DC but her- his father | 471.2505 |
432 | | 471.8469 | um, | 472.5238 |
434 | | 472.9099 | /RD-NAME-4/ | 473.8708 |
435 | PRV_int_01 | 474.0033 | Uh-huh. | 474.3678 |
436 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 474.4104 | is from down here. | 475.4754 |
437 | PRV_int_01 | 475.8446 | From Princeville? | 477.0042 |
438 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 477.0469 | Yeah- in Tarboro. [Princeville- Yeah, um- yeah-] yep. <clears throat> | 480.3631 |
439 | PRV_int_01 | 477.8800 | [Tarboro. Okay. Cool.] | 479.1000 |
440 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 480.5003 | But uh, | 481.0163 |
442 | | 482.2707 | Backfield in Motion is another song, | 484.1877 |
444 | | 484.7016 | Money Money Money, | 485.6625 |
446 | | 486.1311 | uh, Hypnotize. | 487.8636 |
448 | | 488.4411 | So they would- they would | 489.2031 |
450 | | 489.8658 | put out a lot of good stuff | 491.5246 |
452 | | 492.1690 | in uh- | 493.0731 |
453 | PRV_int_01 | 493.5180 | This was the | 494.2659 |
455 | | 494.4269 | original group that you were in? | 495.8469 |
456 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 495.9747 | Yeah my first group. | 496.8409 |
457 | PRV_int_01 | 496.9762 | [Okay.] | 497.3549 |
458 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 497.1324 | [Yeah the] Swans. | 497.9891 |
459 | PRV_int_01 | 497.9749 | The Swans, [okay.] | 498.8554 |
460 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 498.5382 | [Uh-huh.] | 498.8932 |
461 | PRV_int_01 | 498.9974 | Okay. | 499.3713 |
462 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 499.5133 | But uh, they're up- | 500.6872 |
464 | | 501.0233 | they would- they would stay in New York in uh, | 503.3359 |
466 | | 503.7099 | I'd come back | 504.3725 |
468 | | 504.5571 | <clears throat> to Virginia | 505.5701 |
470 | | 506.5121 | and uh, | 507.2647 |
472 | | 507.8753 | continuously to go back and forth during the summer time to visit my aunt and uncle. | 512.3511 |
474 | | 513.0990 | And uh, | 513.9794 |
476 | | 515.4590 | while I would be up there, | 516.7844 |
478 | | 518.0813 | I would be looking for jobs in- in Manhattan, | 520.8740 |
480 | | 521.4969 | uh, trying to, you know, I wanted to stay in New York, | 523.7784 |
481 | PRV_int_01 | 523.8636 | Mm-hm. | 524.3133 |
482 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 524.2470 | but while I was staying with uncle /RD-NAME-1/ | 526.1072 |
483 | | 526.3561 | my job with him was to | 528.3110 |
485 | | 528.9122 | polish | 529.5228 |
487 | | 530.2612 | this lobby because he was the superintendent | 532.4291 |
489 | | 532.8862 | of an eighteen story building. | 534.3678 |
490 | PRV_int_01 | 534.5287 | Mm-hm. | 534.9406 |
491 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 535.1346 | And um, | 535.9582 |
493 | | 537.4114 | keeping the- the tile, | 538.6232 |
495 | | 539.0661 | the brass banisters and the mailboxes. I would sing | 541.7594 |
496 | PRV_int_01 | 542.1050 | Okay. | 542.5073 |
497 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 542.6541 | and um, | 543.4445 |
499 | | 543.8706 | to myself. | 544.6184 |
500 | PRV_int_01 | 544.8247 | Mm-hm. | 545.1919 |
501 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 545.7856 | And- | 546.3299 |
502 | PRV_int_01 | 547.0116 | So you were helping him | 547.8967 |
503 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 548.1949 | [Mm-hm.] | 548.5736 |
504 | PRV_int_01 | 548.3133 | [/like/] | 548.6020 |
505 | | 548.9286 | with maintenance on the- in the [building.] | 550.6705 |
506 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 550.0978 | [D- in] the [building. Right], uh-huh. | 551.7619 |
507 | PRV_int_01 | 550.9146 | [Okay.] | 551.2933 |
508 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 552.3394 | And | 552.9784 |
510 | | 554.5121 | f- the- f- | 555.2031 |
512 | | 555.4540 | one summer | 556.2019 |
514 | | 556.4082 | <clears throat> | 556.8389 |
516 | | 557.3549 | on the third- | 557.9844 |
518 | | 558.3536 | f- | 558.5382 |
520 | | 558.7796 | I think it was- | 559.2340 |
522 | | 559.4234 | took me- took me three days before I would be | 561.3357 |
524 | | 562.1735 | actually discovered. | 563.1845 |
526 | | 564.8790 | There was a Jewish lady Mrs. /RD-NAME-4/ | 567.2031 |
528 | | 567.7996 | that was standing outside the building | 569.9323 |
529 | PRV_int_01 | 570.2873 | Mm-hm. | 570.5856 |
530 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 570.7370 | for two days she stayed in there in the next apartment building. | 573.8895 |
531 | PRV_int_01 | 574.1242 | Mm. | 574.4650 |
532 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 575.0046 | And she said that, um, | 576.4435 |
534 | | 577.5701 | she just couldn't ha- had to come in. | 579.4777 |
536 | | 580.0410 | So she said, excuse me. | 581.1000 |
538 | | 581.9513 | I'm polishing and singing. | 583.4754 |
539 | PRV_int_01 | 583.7878 | Mm. | 584.0150 |
540 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 584.0908 | She said aren't you the uh, nephew of Uncle /RD-NAME-1/? | 586.9640 |
542 | | 587.5584 | And Aunt /RD-NAME-2/ from North Carolina or Virginia? | 589.6648 |
543 | PRV_int_01 | 589.7121 | Mm-hm. | 590.1533 |
544 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 590.5547 | I say, yes I am. She said, well, | 592.5285 |
546 | | 593.7004 | I wanna tell you one thing. | 595.1252 |
548 | | 595.9535 | I've been listening to you | 597.1037 |
550 | | 597.6575 | and you have the most melodious voice | 600.2116 |
552 | | 600.7796 | that I've ever heard. | 601.7216 |
554 | | 602.3133 | Have you ever thought about | 603.6859 |
556 | | 605.6152 | singing professionally? | 606.6238 |
557 | PRV_int_01 | 606.7986 | Mm-hm. | 607.2766 |
558 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 607.3692 | I told her, no ma'am I hadn't. | 608.8697 |
560 | | 609.2720 | But I was lying. | 610.1240 |
561 | PRV_int_01 | 610.3019 | Mm-hm. [<laugh>] | 611.7456 |
562 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 610.7516 | [I was hoping I was] gonna be discovered | 612.7302 |
563 | PRV_int_01 | 612.8248 | Yeah. | 613.1514 |
564 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 613.2177 | just like that | 613.8047 |
565 | PRV_int_01 | 613.8851 | Yeah. [<laugh>] | 615.0827 |
566 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 614.6425 | [And uh] <clears throat> so she told me she say, I happen to know the publisher | 618.1527 |
567 | | 618.7112 | of the Platters. | 619.5349 |
568 | PRV_int_01 | 619.5727 | Uh-huh. | 619.9277 |
570 | | 620.7371 | Oh. | 621.1632 |
571 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 621.1300 | How would you like to meet 'em? | 622.1193 |
572 | PRV_int_01 | 622.3682 | Wow. | 622.6947 |
573 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 622.8699 | And man, | 623.6462 |
575 | | 624.4604 | I- I got of turned uh- | 625.9041 |
577 | | 626.3253 | a backwards flip. | 627.1916 |
578 | PRV_int_01 | 627.4878 | Uh-huh. | 627.8238 |
579 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 628.0889 | Said, the Platters? <laugh> | 629.6367 |
581 | | 630.2284 | And plus, | 630.8769 |
583 | | 631.2603 | well- in my group, we had already been singing | 633.7264 |
584 | PRV_int_01 | 633.7812 | Mm-hm. | 634.1741 |
585 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 634.4250 | uh, some of their songs | 635.6604 |
586 | PRV_int_01 | 635.7361 | Okay. | 636.1527 |
587 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 636.2284 | but I never had no | 637.6911 |
589 | | 637.9845 | inkling of an idea | 639.0685 |
590 | PRV_int_01 | 639.2720 | Mm. | 639.5182 |
591 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 639.5040 | that one day | 640.2187 |
592 | | 640.8841 | I would um, | 641.8971 |
594 | | 643.2650 | get a chance to meet 'em. | 644.1171 |
595 | PRV_int_01 | 644.2212 | Yeah. | 644.5431 |
596 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 644.6803 | And I would meet /RD-NAME-2/, | 646.0294 |
598 | | 646.7279 | the bass singer, | 647.4947 |
600 | | 647.6651 | <clears throat> | 648.4840 |
602 | | 649.3597 | o- over on the side, | 650.4342 |
603 | PRV_int_01 | 650.5525 | Uh-huh. | 650.9123 |
604 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 651.9110 | Tony Williams, | 652.9504 |
606 | | 653.2912 | who was originally | 654.6071 |
608 | | 655.0899 | Zola, | 655.7337 |
610 | | 656.0887 | who w- had just got with the group. | 657.6128 |
611 | PRV_int_01 | 657.8901 | Okay. | 658.2830 |
612 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 658.8557 | And uh, Paul | 660.0391 |
614 | | 660.3231 | and David. | 660.8674 |
616 | | 661.5727 | Now, | 662.0035 |
618 | | 662.1928 | David was sick at that time, and Herbie would tell me | 665.2533 |
619 | PRV_int_01 | 665.5752 | Mm. | 665.8308 |
620 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 666.0107 | um, | 666.5692 |
622 | | 667.4733 | that they was gonna be l- looking for | 669.3478 |
623 | PRV_int_01 | 669.7860 | Mm. | 670.2857 |
624 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 670.1457 | some replacements later on. | 671.3433 |
625 | PRV_int_01 | 671.9634 | Now tell me a [little bit] | 672.9905 |
626 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 672.4888 | [<clears throat>] | 673.1278 |
627 | PRV_int_01 | 674.1313 | about the history of the Platters, like- and then what you had known about them up until that point. | 678.3127 |
628 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 678.3610 | Mm-hm. | 678.7396 |
630 | | 679.3644 | Well the Platters would start | 680.5951 |
632 | | 681.7292 | in nineteen fifty three. | 683.1871 |
633 | PRV_int_01 | 683.6509 | Mm. | 683.8640 |
634 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 684.3184 | I was a mere lad of thirteen | 686.3206 |
635 | PRV_int_01 | 686.6945 | Mm-hm. | 686.9833 |
636 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 686.9549 | down here | 687.4992 |
637 | PRV_int_01 | 687.8333 | Okay. | 688.2025 |
638 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 688.3919 | in North Carolina. | 689.1445 |
639 | PRV_int_01 | 689.1729 | Mm. | 689.6576 |
640 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 690.3185 | Didn't know | 691.1372 |
642 | | 691.2887 | what fate | 691.7479 |
644 | | 692.0224 | had in store | 692.9975 |
646 | | 693.7927 | but uh, <clears throat> at first they started out, it was four of 'em. | 696.5787 |
647 | PRV_int_01 | 696.8201 | Mm-hm. | 697.2611 |
648 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 698.4058 | Herbert Reed um, | 700.2498 |
650 | | 701.0971 | Alex Hodge, | 702.0722 |
652 | | 703.4213 | /was it/ Cornell /Gunther/ | 704.7655 |
654 | | 705.7548 | and um, David. | 707.5326 |
656 | | 709.4023 | David- | 710.1833 |
658 | | 710.5005 | Now, Alex Hodge and Cornell /Gunther/ would uh- would depart- Cornell would end up | 715.8851 |
660 | | 716.4673 | with the Coasters, | 717.3714 |
661 | PRV_int_01 | 717.5797 | Mm. | 717.9205 |
662 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 718.1552 | but Herbie would | 718.8273 |
664 | | 719.2533 | pick up | 719.6557 |
666 | | 720.1716 | Paul Robi | 720.9242 |
668 | | 721.8757 | and | 722.7513 |
670 | | 723.4472 | Tony | 723.8968 |
671 | PRV_int_01 | 724.3209 | Mm-hm. | 724.6995 |
672 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 724.8889 | and um, | 726.0202 |
674 | | 727.4781 | and David. | 728.0650 |
676 | | 728.8697 | David | 729.2010 |
678 | | 729.4992 | Lynch. | 729.9631 |
679 | PRV_int_01 | 730.0368 | Mm-hm. | 730.4439 |
680 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 730.5007 | And it was called- you know, would call themselves the four somethings, but | 733.7763 |
682 | | 734.0934 | they couldn't get the harmony right. | 735.4188 |
683 | PRV_int_01 | 735.5824 | Mm-hm. | 736.0321 |
684 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 735.9990 | But they were struggling | 736.8983 |
685 | | 737.6841 | and uh, trying their best to get it, | 739.6958 |
687 | | 740.1218 | but they- | 740.5099 |
689 | | 740.6803 | they c- just couldn't get it. | 741.6318 |
690 | PRV_int_01 | 741.9090 | Mm-hm. | 742.2783 |
691 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 742.6285 | So um, | 743.5563 |
693 | | 744.5598 | Buck Ram | 745.4639 |
695 | | 746.6803 | was told about 'em. They were introduced to Buck Ram | 749.2155 |
696 | PRV_int_01 | 749.2628 | Mm-hm. | 749.5894 |
697 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 749.8071 | by um, | 750.6828 |
699 | | 752.2685 | um, Linda Hayes. | 753.8921 |
701 | | 754.8131 | <clears throat> | 755.3527 |
703 | | 755.6746 | And | 756.0344 |
705 | | 757.2130 | Buck would um, | 758.1076 |
707 | | 759.4850 | start working with 'em, | 760.5528 |
709 | | 761.1965 | and he also would be managing a group called the Penguins. | 764.0461 |
710 | PRV_int_01 | 764.0839 | Mm. | 764.3916 |
711 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 764.4389 | They only had one hit, | 765.4235 |
712 | PRV_int_01 | 765.8475 | Mm. | 766.1694 |
713 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 766.1552 | Earth Angel, | 766.8368 |
714 | PRV_int_01 | 767.2107 | Okay. | 767.5326 |
715 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 767.5847 | Would You Be Mine? | 768.2758 |
716 | PRV_int_01 | 768.3752 | Yeah. | 768.7491 |
717 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 769.2556 | And um, | 770.0650 |
719 | | 770.8839 | but Mercury Records had their eyes on | 773.4332 |
721 | | 774.0817 | the Penguins | 774.8390 |
723 | | 775.5680 | and the Platters would um, | 777.2058 |
725 | | 777.8380 | sign finally with a group | 779.9350 |
727 | | 780.6402 | called Federal Records out of Cincinnati Ohio. | 783.1206 |
728 | PRV_int_01 | 783.1679 | Mm-hm. | 783.5134 |
729 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 784.3161 | And they would try to record Only You. | 786.9100 |
731 | | 788.1123 | And Zola hadn't came in the group this time. | 789.9063 |
732 | PRV_int_01 | 789.9564 | Mm-hm. | 790.4155 |
733 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 791.0498 | And /RD-NAME-2/ you should hear it. | 792.8248 |
735 | | 793.8615 | I should play it for you sometime | 795.5560 |
737 | | 795.9043 | when you come back with the video. | 797.3101 |
738 | PRV_int_01 | 797.2723 | Okay. | 797.6273 |
739 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 797.8924 | I'll play you the original | 799.8993 |
741 | | 801.0922 | Only You. | 801.7312 |
742 | PRV_int_01 | 801.7907 | Mm-hm. | 802.1978 |
743 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 802.7374 | Okay. | 803.2155 |
745 | | 803.5941 | That version, | 804.7538 |
747 | | 805.0946 | they would be tagged as the Flatters. | 807.2815 |
748 | PRV_int_01 | 807.5655 | <laugh> | 807.8495 |
749 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 808.3398 | They sounded just that bad. | 809.3622 |
750 | PRV_int_01 | 809.4758 | Really? | 809.7693 |
751 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 810.0249 | And so | 810.5219 |
753 | | 811.5964 | getting back to Mercury Records | 813.3052 |
755 | | 813.6696 | and their interest in the Penguins, Buck told 'em, he said well, | 816.7822 |
757 | | 817.4213 | tell you what, | 817.9656 |
759 | | 818.8460 | the only way you guys gonna get the Penguins, | 821.4900 |
761 | | 822.1622 | you got to sign the Platters too. | 823.7810 |
763 | | 824.4484 | And they said, | 825.0306 |
765 | | 825.4898 | we don't want 'em. | 826.1714 |
767 | | 827.1587 | They don't have it. | 827.7835 |
768 | PRV_int_01 | 828.0533 | Mm. | 828.3610 |
769 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 828.5645 | We- /unintelligible/- We'd say | 829.9372 |
771 | | 830.2685 | we just | 830.8223 |
773 | | 831.1679 | ain't interested in 'em. | 832.1126 |
774 | PRV_int_01 | 832.0842 | Mm-hm. | 832.6001 |
775 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 832.7137 | He said well, that's the only way you gonna get them Penguins. | 835.1562 |
776 | PRV_int_01 | 835.2698 | Mm-hm. | 835.6011 |
777 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 835.6769 | And so sure enough, they reluctantly | 837.4519 |
779 | | 838.4439 | signed the Platters | 839.6699 |
781 | | 840.7207 | and by that time, | 841.7289 |
783 | | 842.4768 | Zola | 843.1916 |
785 | | 844.2309 | the secret weapon | 845.3101 |
786 | PRV_int_01 | 845.4237 | Okay. | 845.8876 |
787 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 846.1811 | came into the group. | 847.0757 |
788 | PRV_int_01 | 847.2461 | Mm. | 847.6627 |
789 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 848.1833 | Rounded off the harmony, | 849.4945 |
790 | PRV_int_01 | 849.8380 | Oh. | 850.1078 |
791 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 851.2249 | put it in a chord, | 852.2521 |
793 | | 852.9053 | put the four parts in a chord, | 854.1455 |
795 | | 854.5573 | full chord, | 855.2010 |
797 | | 856.0794 | and they would redo | 857.3007 |
799 | | 857.5326 | Only You. | 858.1527 |
801 | | 859.7952 | <laugh> | 860.1928 |
803 | | 860.9217 | And it was all over. | 861.9158 |
804 | PRV_int_01 | 862.0605 | Yeah. | 862.4061 |
805 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 862.6333 | [<laugh>] | 863.5421 |
806 | PRV_int_01 | 862.6617 | [<laugh>] | 864.3894 |
807 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 864.3468 | They forgot about the Penguins, | 865.7668 |
808 | PRV_int_01 | 865.8946 | Yeah. | 866.2070 |
809 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 866.1928 | <clears throat> | 866.7561 |
810 | | 866.9312 | and started concentrating on them Platters. | 869.0451 |
811 | PRV_int_01 | 869.0782 | Mm. | 869.3717 |
812 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 870.3089 | Herbie tells me that uh, Only You | 872.2591 |
814 | | 872.7371 | stayed on the billboard charts for seventeen weeks. | 875.6604 |
815 | PRV_int_01 | 875.7740 | Mm. | 876.1764 |
816 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 876.2994 | As a number one, | 877.1609 |
818 | | 877.7195 | and it was beginning to decline. | 879.4330 |
819 | PRV_int_01 | 879.5730 | Mm-hm. | 879.9516 |
820 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 880.1126 | And um, | 880.9977 |
822 | | 881.4521 | Mercury Records president | 882.8674 |
824 | | 883.4781 | would call Buck Rams and say, | 884.9123 |
826 | | 885.3856 | we need another song and we need it right away. | 888.0628 |
828 | | 888.8012 | Do you happen to have one? | 889.7668 |
829 | PRV_int_01 | 889.8757 | Mm-hm. | 890.3111 |
830 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 890.4153 | Buck say yep, | 891.1442 |
832 | | 891.4073 | I got the ideal song. | 892.7895 |
834 | | 893.2675 | But he didn't. | 893.8876 |
836 | | 894.8201 | What he would do though, | 895.7479 |
838 | | 896.6993 | he would go back to the hotel and /being on a/ ranger | 899.4521 |
839 | PRV_int_01 | 899.6699 | [Mm-hm.] | 899.9776 |
840 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 899.8971 | [/accomplisher/] ranger, | 900.9384 |
841 | PRV_int_01 | 901.0615 | Mm-hm. | 901.4213 |
842 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 902.1739 | he | 902.6283 |
844 | | 903.1821 | would go in the bathroom | 904.4439 |
846 | | 905.7645 | and in fifteen minutes | 907.0994 |
848 | | 907.8331 | he would write | 908.4011 |
850 | | 908.6661 | The Great Pretender. | 909.5371 |
851 | PRV_int_01 | 909.5986 | Hm. | 909.8874 |
852 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 910.7611 | And that- | 911.1681 |
854 | | 911.4427 | they would hear that | 912.1290 |
856 | | 912.2947 | and that would | 912.7538 |
858 | | 913.5159 | almost outsell Only You. | 915.0212 |
859 | PRV_int_01 | 915.1064 | Mm. | 915.4093 |
860 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 915.4566 | And from then on man, | 916.5670 |
862 | | 917.0309 | the Platters was on the road. | 918.1527 |
863 | PRV_int_01 | 918.3515 | Hm. | 918.5834 |
864 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 919.1751 | And uh, <clears throat> I guess the lifestyle and success | 922.5812 |
866 | | 924.1906 | in managing- trying to manage all of this- | 926.4422 |
868 | | 927.3099 | this stardom, | 928.1808 |
870 | | 928.5197 | was kind of hard for 'em [because] uh, | 930.5834 |
871 | PRV_int_01 | 929.7787 | [Mm.] | 930.0344 |
872 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 931.9703 | as most groups, | 932.9644 |
874 | | 933.3572 | you have your temptations and your weaknesses and your strengths | 936.4698 |
876 | | 937.0994 | and uh, the industry | 938.4768 |
877 | PRV_int_01 | 938.6519 | Mm-hm. | 939.0827 |
878 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 939.2436 | is a very, uh, hectic | 940.9315 |
880 | | 941.8024 | uh, | 942.2616 |
882 | | 942.5266 | lifestyle if you don't have some- | 943.9183 |
884 | | 944.4153 | some strengths. | 945.2105 |
885 | PRV_int_01 | 945.3174 | Mm-hm. | 945.7528 |
886 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 946.1173 | And so uh, David, | 947.2202 |
888 | | 947.3669 | his condition | 948.2758 |
890 | | 948.9148 | apparently had worsened | 950.0082 |
891 | PRV_int_01 | 950.2307 | Mm-hm. | 950.6614 |
892 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 950.6235 | and so um, | 951.5087 |
893 | | 952.4487 | Herbie | 952.9220 |
895 | | 953.3338 | would uh, | 954.0817 |
897 | | 954.8627 | finally | 955.4165 |
899 | | 955.7621 | call me | 956.3017 |
901 | | 957.8637 | and- and tell me | 958.7983 |
903 | | 959.1776 | you know, are you ready? | 960.2663 |
904 | PRV_int_01 | 960.4462 | Mm-hm. | 960.8343 |
905 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 960.9148 | But up until that point I had been working with a group out of Newport News | 964.6096 |
907 | | 965.1539 | as an understudy called the Five Keys. | 967.3929 |
908 | PRV_int_01 | 967.3786 | Okay. | 967.8283 |
909 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 968.4011 | Man. | 968.9170 |
911 | | 970.0463 | The Five Keys. | 971.3433 |
913 | | 971.7929 | <clears throat> | 972.4604 |
915 | | 972.8438 | I w- I- | 973.3076 |
917 | | 973.5112 | You- you got to hear them too. | 974.5433 |
918 | PRV_int_01 | 974.5147 | Okay. | 974.9123 |
919 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 974.9359 | I got some of that stuff. | 975.8164 |
920 | PRV_int_01 | 975.8522 | Okay. | 976.2775 |
921 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 978.7633 | They would out sing | 980.4863 |
923 | | 980.9928 | anybody. | 981.6649 |
924 | PRV_int_01 | 981.8333 | Mm-hm. | 982.2356 |
925 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 983.8071 | The Five Key- Oo, man, [I'm telling] you. | 985.9940 |
926 | PRV_int_01 | 985.2272 | [<laugh>] | 985.6958 |
927 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 986.4058 | Rudy West | 987.1016 |
928 | PRV_int_01 | 987.3241 | Yeah. | 987.5702 |
929 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 987.7718 | had a tenor | 988.6901 |
931 | | 989.6746 | that was sweeter than Bill Kenny | 991.4875 |
933 | | 991.9751 | of the Ink Spots | 992.8460 |
934 | PRV_int_01 | 992.9454 | Hm. | 993.2152 |
935 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 993.2058 | and I was in his shadow. | 994.5575 |
936 | PRV_int_01 | 994.6853 | Mm-hm. | 995.0924 |
937 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 995.1823 | <clears throat> | 995.6178 |
938 | PRV_int_01 | 996.0880 | Okay. | 996.5475 |
939 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 997.3029 | He had a song that he would do um, | 999.5087 |
941 | | 1000.8652 | out of sight (singing) | 1001.9208 |
943 | | 1002.6541 | out of mind (singing). | 1004.9169 |
945 | | 1005.1772 | Then the background would go, | 1006.0577 |
947 | | 1006.3795 | doo woo (singing) | 1008.2824 |
949 | | 1008.7395 | so the story (singing) | 1010.9406 |
951 | | 1011.2151 | goes (singing) | 1013.1085 |
953 | | 1013.5866 | you forgot (singing) | 1014.6326 |
955 | | 1015.1513 | I exist (singing). | 1017.4754 |
957 | | 1017.8589 | I mean, man, | 1018.7535 |
959 | | 1019.3546 | and so | 1019.9416 |
961 | | 1020.1167 | when I- or when Herb first thing, he say, | 1022.4388 |
963 | | 1022.6376 | can you do a lead something? I said, well, | 1024.6967 |
965 | | 1025.0943 | I say um- | 1025.9037 |
967 | | 1026.8457 | He was testing me. | 1027.6105 |
968 | PRV_int_01 | 1027.7099 | Mm-hm. | 1028.1075 |
969 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1028.2448 | I say, I- I- I know background harmony cause I've been singing it all my life | 1031.8658 |
971 | | 1032.1356 | [I] said but there's one song that uh, | 1034.5335 |
972 | PRV_int_01 | 1032.1782 | [Mm.] | 1032.4338 |
973 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1034.8790 | the Ink Spots had done | 1036.2186 |
975 | | 1037.0801 | that- but Ram had | 1038.3770 |
977 | | 1038.6232 | arranged for them. | 1039.5650 |
978 | PRV_int_01 | 1039.7288 | Mm-hm. | 1040.0886 |
979 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1040.7039 | And so | 1041.1536 |
981 | | 1042.1713 | they were looking for a smooth | 1043.8942 |
983 | | 1044.8267 | tenor. | 1045.1865 |
984 | PRV_int_01 | 1045.3028 | Mm-hm. | 1045.7099 |
985 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1045.7335 | And so I would do uh, | 1046.8270 |
987 | | 1047.0447 | To Each His Own. | 1047.8305 |
988 | PRV_int_01 | 1047.8399 | Mm-hm. | 1048.2754 |
989 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1048.9949 | A rose must remain (singing) | 1052.4010 |
991 | | 1053.0542 | with the sun and the rain (singing) | 1056.0741 |
993 | | 1056.8457 | or its lovely promise won't come true (singing). | 1062.2634 |
995 | | 1062.5995 | I didn't get through | 1063.4732 |
997 | | 1063.8945 | the song | 1064.4010 |
998 | PRV_int_01 | 1064.4625 | Mm-hm. | 1064.7418 |
999 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1064.7418 | and Herbie say, | 1065.4186 |
1000 | | 1065.9488 | you know the whole s- you know the whole thing? I say yep. | 1067.9747 |
1002 | | 1068.3155 | I said I know that, said I got another. He said, nope, | 1069.8992 |
1004 | | 1070.2542 | don't- don't need no more. Don't need no more. | 1071.7853 |
1006 | | 1072.1287 | He said, I'll tell you what, we gonna send for you | 1073.6907 |
1007 | PRV_int_01 | 1073.8090 | [Mm.] | 1074.2019 |
1008 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1074.0694 | [<clears throat>] | 1074.4149 |
1009 | | 1074.7017 | to come up | 1075.1513 |
1011 | | 1076.0744 | to try out for the group. He said because there are other- other guys bringing in people too. | 1080.0078 |
1012 | PRV_int_01 | 1079.9368 | Mm-hm. | 1080.2918 |
1013 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1080.3297 | He said but | 1080.9383 |
1015 | | 1081.3028 | I'm the man | 1082.2258 |
1017 | | 1083.3429 | that thought of the name The Platters | 1085.0185 |
1019 | | 1085.3404 | and me and Buck Ram are tight. | 1087.0945 |
1020 | PRV_int_01 | 1087.1466 | Mm. | 1087.5253 |
1021 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1087.5395 | He said | 1087.9229 |
1023 | | 1088.0838 | so what I say- | 1089.0542 |
1025 | | 1089.3382 | He said I got some [influence on the-] | 1090.8765 |
1026 | PRV_int_01 | 1090.5073 | [Mm-hm.] Mm-hm. | 1091.3357 |
1027 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1091.3830 | And so <clears throat> | 1092.3108 |
1029 | | 1092.4480 | by the time, Mrs /RD-NAME-1/ | 1093.9276 |
1031 | | 1094.6092 | had signed me up | 1095.5606 |
1033 | | 1096.6919 | as my man- as my manager. | 1098.2682 |
1034 | PRV_int_01 | 1098.1498 | Oh okay. | 1098.6610 |
1035 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1098.6563 | She wasn't gonna l- you know, | 1099.7146 |
1036 | | 1100.3442 | let this get away. [<laugh>] | 1101.7500 |
1037 | PRV_int_01 | 1101.1299 | [Right right.] Right. | 1102.2517 |
1038 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1102.4695 | And um, | 1103.2410 |
1040 | | 1104.2776 | so sure enough that day- | 1105.4448 |
1042 | | 1105.9891 | it was in August | 1107.2056 |
1044 | | 1107.9535 | of nineteen sixty one, | 1109.4635 |
1045 | PRV_int_01 | 1109.9747 | Mm. | 1110.2540 |
1046 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1111.1939 | there they were- the- the Brill Building. | 1113.0826 |
1048 | | 1113.9346 | Broadway. Sixteen- | 1115.1416 |
1050 | | 1115.4304 | fifteen sixteen Broadway. | 1116.9194 |
1052 | | 1117.4211 | <clears throat> | 1118.0176 |
1054 | | 1118.8175 | think it was on the thirteenth floor, that publisher- at the Platters publisher's office. | 1122.3013 |
1055 | PRV_int_01 | 1123.0472 | Now you were living | 1123.8329 |
1057 | | 1124.3205 | [where now?] | 1124.8648 |
1058 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1124.3915 | [Out in] Virginia [this time.] | 1125.7358 |
1059 | PRV_int_01 | 1125.2435 | [Okay. Okay.] | 1126.1050 |
1060 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1125.8636 | [Mm-hm.] | 1126.2375 |
1061 | | 1126.8955 | And um, | 1127.7303 |
1063 | | 1129.4495 | fifty guys | 1130.4909 |
1065 | | 1131.7311 | in there lined up | 1132.9617 |
1067 | | 1133.1464 | down the wall. | 1133.5392 |
1068 | PRV_int_01 | 1133.7049 | Oh wow. | 1134.1640 |
1069 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1134.2398 | And I said mm. | 1135.1865 |
1071 | | 1135.8045 | I thought I was gonna walk in here and get this thing. | 1138.0435 |
1073 | | 1138.8860 | And um, so my manager she- she was with me. She was a little nervous. | 1142.4057 |
1075 | | 1143.0968 | And she said you very- | 1144.5168 |
1077 | | 1144.7440 | very calm /RD-NAME-2/. | 1145.9084 |
1078 | PRV_int_01 | 1146.0220 | Mm. | 1146.2918 |
1079 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1147.3312 | And she say, | 1147.9513 |
1081 | | 1148.3536 | I said, well I'm- I'm just concentrating. I said but I'm alright. | 1151.0422 |
1083 | | 1151.4730 | She said have you decided what you gonna sing? | 1153.4503 |
1085 | | 1154.0933 | I say um, | 1155.0920 |
1087 | | 1155.5843 | <ts> | 1155.7453 |
1089 | | 1156.4127 | I got two or three things um, that I would like to do but I don't know which one I'm gonna do. | 1160.6234 |
1091 | | 1161.7074 | She said you don't- you haven't planned which one you [gonna do?] | 1164.2966 |
1092 | PRV_int_01 | 1163.7948 | [<laugh>] | 1164.9309 |
1093 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1164.9620 | I said no ma'am. | 1165.8803 |
1094 | PRV_int_01 | 1165.8755 | [<laugh>] | 1166.4199 |
1095 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1166.0507 | [I say] <clears throat> | 1166.9926 |
1096 | | 1167.4470 | all of 'em were good. | 1168.4884 |
1098 | | 1169.1132 | And uh, | 1169.7286 |
1100 | | 1170.3770 | she said, mm. | 1171.2480 |
1102 | | 1171.5158 | She thought I was- should be nervous cause they was calling 'em in, | 1173.7784 |
1103 | PRV_int_01 | 1173.8115 | Yeah. | 1174.1476 |
1104 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1174.2281 | call 'em in. | 1174.7961 |
1106 | | 1175.3310 | And | 1176.1262 |
1108 | | 1176.6137 | about forty ninth, | 1177.8519 |
1110 | | 1178.2258 | I'm getting a little- | 1179.1583 |
1112 | | 1179.4281 | I told her I said Miss /RD-NAME-1/ if they don't hurry up, | 1181.3925 |
1114 | | 1182.0978 | I said I'm gonna get upset. | 1183.2243 |
1115 | PRV_int_01 | 1183.7998 | [Really?] | 1184.2116 |
1116 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1183.8093 | [<clears throat>] She said well you w- you needa s- s- go down- | 1186.5215 |
1117 | | 1186.8387 | She says it's too late if you go get a soda /in here/. I said, I know, I'm okay. | 1189.9134 |
1119 | | 1190.1785 | I said but I been waiting here for awhile. | 1191.6269 |
1120 | PRV_int_01 | 1191.6919 | Mm. | 1191.9493 |
1121 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1192.1287 | So sure enough | 1192.9712 |
1123 | | 1194.2587 | uh, | 1194.7226 |
1125 | | 1195.3738 | I'd come in there | 1196.1738 |
1127 | | 1196.9453 | and Buck Ram- this the first time I ever seen any half | 1199.7759 |
1129 | | 1201.1419 | uh, | 1201.5773 |
1131 | | 1201.9181 | glasses, | 1202.4862 |
1132 | PRV_int_01 | 1202.4862 | Mm-hm. | 1202.8506 |
1133 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1203.0778 | they're on his nose | 1203.8825 |
1135 | | 1204.3748 | and he's on the piano. | 1205.4730 |
1136 | PRV_int_01 | 1205.6623 | Mm. | 1205.9842 |
1137 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1206.2256 | <clears throat> | 1206.6232 |
1139 | | 1206.7585 | And uh, | 1207.3123 |
1141 | | 1207.8377 | I walk up introduce myself | 1209.4802 |
1143 | | 1209.6790 | um, | 1210.0435 |
1145 | | 1210.2659 | originally from North Carolina | 1211.4540 |
1146 | PRV_int_01 | 1211.5629 | Mm-hm. | 1211.9794 |
1147 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1213.2460 | and uh, | 1214.0554 |
1149 | | 1214.9406 | I'm- I'm gonna do um, | 1216.6541 |
1151 | | 1217.1464 | one of- one of three of these songs. | 1219.0776 |
1152 | PRV_int_01 | 1219.1892 | Mm. | 1219.4874 |
1153 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1219.4117 | And I asked him which one he would like to hear. | 1221.1536 |
1154 | PRV_int_01 | 1221.2861 | Mm. | 1221.7074 |
1155 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1222.0009 | And already knew that he had done My Prayer. | 1223.9226 |
1156 | PRV_int_01 | 1224.1735 | Mm. | 1224.5190 |
1157 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1224.5360 | And plus the Platters had did it too. | 1226.2874 |
1158 | PRV_int_01 | 1226.2921 | Okay. | 1226.6045 |
1159 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1226.7181 | And so I'm gonna sing one of their songs. | 1228.1145 |
1161 | | 1229.3688 | Everybody else was singing | 1230.5522 |
1163 | | 1230.7727 | James Brown, | 1231.7761 |
1164 | PRV_int_01 | 1231.9655 | Mm. | 1232.2306 |
1165 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1232.4483 | Jackie Wilson, | 1233.3950 |
1167 | | 1235.1369 | all rock. | 1235.9274 |
1169 | | 1236.4413 | And I s- and I had told her too, I say, | 1238.4956 |
1171 | | 1238.8885 | they don't know that the Platters ain't no rock and roll, they're classy. | 1241.7664 |
1172 | PRV_int_01 | 1241.9179 | Mm-hm. | 1242.4906 |
1173 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1242.4792 | <clears throat> So I would | 1243.4259 |
1174 | | 1244.6045 | m- come into the- up to the mic and uh, | 1246.6919 |
1176 | | 1247.1464 | he said I have any sheet music? | 1248.3628 |
1177 | PRV_int_01 | 1248.8389 | Mm. | 1249.1892 |
1178 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1249.7051 | I said no sir. | 1250.4388 |
1180 | | 1250.8317 | He said what key is- is it? | 1252.9286 |
1182 | | 1253.2931 | I said I don't know. | 1254.1640 |
1183 | PRV_int_01 | 1254.5360 | Hm. | 1254.6780 |
1184 | PRV_se0_ag3_m_01 | 1254.6638 | I said but I'm sure you know the song. | 1256.3536 |
1185 | PRV_int_01 | 1256.4010 | Mm-hm. | 1256.7681 |