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1PRV_int_010.6555Last one was how high?1.6163
2PRV_se0_ag3_m_021.6211Something like about eight or ten feets high3.8695
3PRV_int_014.0162Okay.4.4706
4PRV_se0_ag3_m_024.3570/how/ high it would get /?/ then.6.1888
5PRV_int_016.4425You remember when- when that was?7.9903
7 8.4305The- the- /?/9.1358 
8PRV_se0_ag3_m_029.1074Wells,9.7464
9 9.9878I /always/ said10.9487
11 11.8460something like about,13.1335 
13 13.5879uh-15.0695 
15 16.7877I would say about ten years back18.4709 
17 18.6081or something like in that [area.]19.7190 
18PRV_int_0119.5879[Mkay.]19.8909
19 20.2838So there- so it gotten eight feet high22.3144
21 22.8493at one point, but never real-24.3052 
23 24.5892It would always25.1619 
24PRV_se0_ag3_m_0225.5453[Go-]25.9240
25PRV_int_0125.5548[/inaudible/.]26.8092
26PRV_se0_ag3_m_0226.5110[Yeah.]26.7618
27 27.0222[Yeah.]27.3156
28PRV_int_0127.0222[/?/]27.3156
29PRV_se0_ag3_m_0227.5523Oh yeah. It would go up a days- couple days- like that, and go back.29.9285
30PRV_int_0130.4046Okay.30.7975
31PRV_se0_ag3_m_0231.0247Open that-31.3181
33 31.8956Open that door.32.4873 
35 33.0032Yeah and uh,33.8931 
37 34.1061that's just the way it was til the water got-36.0042 
39 36.4851til this time and that time.38.0471 
40PRV_int_0138.0613How you doing?38.6766
41PRV_se0_ag3_m_0338.7050Hey how you been?39.6281
42PRV_int_0139.7227Good, good.40.3097
43PRV_se0_ag3_m_0340.3665Alright.40.8019
44PRV_se0_ag3_m_0242.3336And that's just the way it was until the last time cause it got up45.4103
46 46.7830washed us out good fashion that time.48.6223 
47PRV_int_0148.6318Uh-huh.49.0135
48PRV_se0_ag3_m_0249.2992Cause I didn't- I was over time, but I knew somebody if you went through on that stop light down there53.6398
50 54.0090on a-54.5000 
52 54.7691That stop light down there?55.8577 
53PRV_int_0156.0566[Uh-huh.]56.3497
54PRV_se0_ag3_m_0256.2506[Say] if you could reach up there and touch it on a boat when you went by there.59.3889
55PRV_int_0159.5120Wow.59.8291
56PRV_se0_ag3_m_0260.0259So you know it was up high.61.4838
57PRV_int_0161.6731So everything was-62.5110
58PRV_se0_ag3_m_0262.4210W- Everything was washed up then.64.3097
59PRV_int_0164.2576Wow.64.5795
60 65.1333So when [you] first got the-66.4046
61PRV_se0_ag3_m_0265.3984[Yeah.]65.6587
62PRV_int_0166.6981the call67.3891
64 68.0234uh, and it- and it said it was raining, you didn't think it was gonna-71.2185 
65PRV_se0_ag3_m_0271.3700No, n- none of us /think about do it/ cause it was something /none of us/ had never seen.75.0127
66PRV_int_0175.1547Yeah.75.5381
67PRV_se0_ag3_m_0275.8600And had never /unintelligible/ that kind of water,78.7549
68PRV_int_0178.9158Mm-hm.79.3607
69PRV_se0_ag3_m_0279.5264but it naturally come in here that time, and it washed us out in good fashion. Everything around here was under the water.84.6886
70PRV_int_0184.7170Yeah.85.0389
71PRV_se0_ag3_m_0285.1572Yeah.85.6447
72PRV_int_0185.9145So you- so when86.9180
74 87.0222the fire department got the first call,88.7877 
76 89.1996and-89.6256 
77PRV_se0_ag3_m_0289.9664What?90.2551
78PRV_int_0190.6318how- what'd the fire department do during that whole time?93.2872
79PRV_se0_ag3_m_0293.2636Well we had to94.0635
80 94.2576run to-94.6505
82 94.9487/??/95.3463 
84 95.7486a little this and that, helping the peoples get out of the houses and all that stuff like that,99.8174 
86 100.3807along with the rescue squad and stuff.102.2362 
88 102.8495And, you know, you just keep going til104.7098 
90 105.1878the water got so high, and then the plane was-107.5309 
92 107.9474helped get people out /tents/ too sometime.110.0613 
93PRV_int_01110.2743What kind of calls? Do you remember any calls that you got?112.7073
94PRV_se0_ag3_m_02113.5735Mm, not really. Cause I know I- my-115.5643
96 115.9524When I left home that evening,117.4292 
98 117.8742my son in law,118.8682 
99PRV_int_01119.1664Mm-hm.119.4930
100PRV_se0_ag3_m_02119.6114he was over there, stayed in a trailer over there by the house, and he told us he wont going no where that water wont gonna do nothing.123.7464
101PRV_int_01123.9499Mm-hm.124.2767
102PRV_se0_ag3_m_02124.1724But at the next morning, he's up there on top of that house, hollering for somebody [come get him.]127.8672
103PRV_int_01127.3465[<laugh>]128.3453
104PRV_se0_ag3_m_02128.0613[<laugh>] He's up on top of the house.130.2008
105PRV_int_01130.1014Oh, wow.130.8053
106PRV_se0_ag3_m_02131.0623And the b- come- they come off from the bypass on a boat and they picked him up134.2980
107PRV_int_01134.4873Hm.134.7645
108PRV_se0_ag3_m_02134.9038and carried him back out there towards the bypass out the other way.137.5877
109PRV_int_01137.7202Mm.138.0326
110PRV_se0_ag3_m_02138.9205So I don't reckon he'll try that no more. /He's all ready/.141.7227
111PRV_int_01141.8647Yeah.142.2529
112PRV_se0_ag3_m_02142.5511/Low./143.1428
113PRV_int_01143.4315So but the fire-144.3620
115 144.6081the fire fighters, you guys-145.9477 
116PRV_se0_ag3_m_02146.1844We had to work for them, yeah. [We worked for 'em.]148.0162
117PRV_int_01147.4056[You really really] helped out [/inaudible/ a lot] of the town and [everything.]150.6176
118PRV_se0_ag3_m_02148.8540Yeah, oh yeah.149.5262
120 150.2673[Yea-] Uh-huh. Yeah, we-151.5406 
121PRV_int_01151.6589So what-152.0992
123 152.5441what-152.7760 
125 152.9417tell me some more things in terms of that- that day, you know?155.5699 
127 155.7297That day, right before-157.0105 
129 157.4128Cause at some point-158.2838 
130PRV_se0_ag3_m_02159.2636Let's-159.5144
132 159.9121Well see one thing about the day- the fl- when it come- come into that163.1572 
134 163.7015late that evening, that night,165.0837 
135PRV_int_01165.1784Mm-hm.165.5571
136PRV_se0_ag3_m_02166.4043it just wont nobody prepared for it to do nothing like that. So we just started running around /here to/170.5583
138 170.9038do best we could /in lights/ and try to u-172.8114 
140 173.5498put down something keep it from coming in, stuff like that.175.9524 
142 176.4352But the water come- it come get- when that kind of water come in, ain't nothing gonna stop it180.3874 
143PRV_int_01180.3052Mm-hm.180.7454
144PRV_se0_ag3_m_02180.9063It's going over them roads and by dykes and all that stuff.184.2292
145PRV_int_01184.2623Mm-hm.184.7925
146PRV_se0_ag3_m_02184.9818And but one thing it might held it back a little while, but it be coming so fast if-188.5962
148 188.9038if it wont for them coming you be in trouble anyway.191.4504 
149PRV_int_01191.5593Yeah.191.8528
150PRV_se0_ag3_m_02192.3241Yeah.192.9868
151PRV_int_01192.9489So when did you realize it was-194.2980
152 194.4352it was gonna be that- that high?196.0730
153PRV_se0_ag3_m_02196.1487Well, the-196.7735
155 196.9061the l-197.4268 
157 197.9028I think /?/199.0010 
159 199.3513a couple of days200.6766 
161 201.3819for us find out it was gonna be that high cause that's- it took about that long to get up there /in the marsh/.205.1241 
163 206.5962It took about two days to get way up there on like that, didn't it?209.2185 
165 209.5857[The-] the water.210.3762 
166PRV_se0_ag3_m_03209.5972[What that?]209.8859
167 211.7915What that? On the- on the /house/?212.9938
168PRV_se0_ag3_m_02213.1642W-213.2778
170 213.5144Yeah. Over the-214.1961 
172 214.8067the water over the house. When the water riz.216.8448 
173PRV_se0_ag3_m_03218.4352[/?/] the flood?219.1689
174PRV_int_01218.4494[How-]218.7050
175PRV_se0_ag3_m_02219.1973Yeah.219.5144
176PRV_se0_ag3_m_03220.3854It was about four foot over my house.221.9995
177PRV_se0_ag3_m_02222.1963Oh yeah?222.7312
178PRV_se0_ag3_m_03222.9347Mm-hm.223.2613
179PRV_se0_ag3_m_02223.4175[Uh-huh.]223.9666
180PRV_int_01223.4270[You had four feet] over your house?224.9559
181PRV_se0_ag3_m_03224.9890[O-] over top of it /??/.]226.3286
182PRV_se0_ag3_m_02225.0080[Y-]225.1926
183 226.7641Uh. <laugh>227.9527
184PRV_se0_ag3_m_03228.0306Another four foot over top of it.229.5690
185PRV_int_01229.9761Wow.230.2601
186PRV_se0_ag3_m_02230.7666Yeah it was something alright.232.0209
187PRV_int_01232.3617It took a couple days to get that high?234.2267
188PRV_se0_ag3_m_03234.4993Seven days.235.3134
189PRV_int_01235.5359Seven days, [wow.]236.5110
190PRV_se0_ag3_m_02236.3548[Mm.]237.0790
191PRV_se0_ag3_m_03236.8328[Well-] well we couldn't237.6565
192 237.8647even get in-238.4706
194 238.8493into the house at all.239.8764 
195PRV_int_01240.1442Okay.240.6318
196PRV_se0_ag3_m_02240.7454Mm-mm.241.2661
197PRV_int_01241.6353Now where is your house at?242.8092
198PRV_se0_ag3_m_03243.1121/unintelligible/.243.6328
200 244.4233Oh.244.8398 
202 245.6445On246.2172 
204 246.5513on eleventh down by the graveyard.247.8956 
205PRV_int_01247.8814Okay.248.3453
206PRV_se0_ag3_m_02248.7524Mm.249.1263
207PRV_int_01249.1263Now were you249.8221
209 249.9831working with the fire department or?251.5830 
210PRV_se0_ag3_m_03252.2058I used to a long time ago.253.6447
211PRV_int_01253.6684Oh, [okay.]254.2317
212PRV_se0_ag3_m_02253.7773[Mm-hm.]254.2412
213PRV_se0_ag3_m_03254.2364When it [first] started.255.0506
214PRV_se0_ag3_m_02254.4400[Mm-hm.]254.6956
215 255.2257Mm, yeah.255.5665
216PRV_int_01255.4387Oh okay.256.0777
217PRV_se0_ag3_m_03256.3191Mm.256.5842
218PRV_int_01256.4990Okay.256.9155
219 257.9001And so-258.4567
221 258.6981so you had several people that you had to kind of261.1216 
223 261.5760help evacuate?262.6173 
224PRV_se0_ag3_m_02262.7735Oh yeah, yeah.263.5120
225PRV_int_01263.4836Some of the seniors and everything.]265.1951
226PRV_se0_ag3_m_02264.7738[Yeah], uh-huh. Right.265.8151
227 266.0518Uh-huh.266.4116
228PRV_int_01266.3595So you got- you're pretty busy that day, [huh?]268.4491
229PRV_se0_ag3_m_02268.2339[Yeah.]268.7215
230 268.8019Yeah. <laugh>269.5214
231PRV_int_01269.5640Yeah.269.8622
232PRV_se0_ag3_m_02269.8460Yes indeed.270.7927
233 271.3418Pretty busy.272.3642
234PRV_int_01272.5772That's pretty amazing. I've been talking to a lot of your uh-275.5451
236 277.0199your fire fighters here, just to have a volunteer fire department280.7215 
238 281.0197and uh, a- all you guys are282.4567 
240 283.1714volunteering all your time.284.6151 
241PRV_se0_ag3_m_02284.6340Yeah.285.0411
242PRV_int_01285.2352I bet Princeville's pretty lucky to have-287.1617
243PRV_se0_ag3_m_02287.8007Well I think so too.289.1477
244PRV_int_01289.1942/?/ have all that time.290.4116
245PRV_se0_ag3_m_02290.6861Yeah.291.2210
247 291.8884And then like, just think that somebody'd chip in and pay at least one b-294.9915 
249 295.1146two men to stay here all day.296.6671 
250PRV_int_01296.7665Mm-hm.297.2068
251PRV_se0_ag3_m_02297.1926Look like it to me, but-298.4658
252 299.1001And one man told me, said, why they ain't doing it cause we in here doing it for nothing. [<laugh>]304.3664
253PRV_int_01303.0600[<laugh>] Good point.304.9960
254PRV_se0_ag3_m_02304.8966See he ain't in fire but know how we're telling you. He said they ain't got pay nobody, y'all to doing it for nothing so.309.6659
255PRV_int_01310.0114<laugh>310.3626
256PRV_se0_ag3_m_02310.2576But I didn't- I'd rather help people. They'd be around here with no help, you know.314.1701
257PRV_int_01314.2269Mm-hm.314.6671
258PRV_se0_ag3_m_02316.4043Yeah.316.9203
259PRV_se0_ag3_m_03316.8019/unintelligible/318.3687
260PRV_se0_ag3_m_02319.1098This all of it right here, where you going to now.320.8896
262 321.5570This is right here now.322.5558 
263PRV_se0_ag3_m_03324.2389Regular /m- meeting/ right now.325.4885
264PRV_se0_ag3_m_02325.4885Yeah-huh. What- what I was talking to you about.327.2541
265PRV_se0_ag3_m_03327.8316Oh yeah.328.2197
266PRV_se0_ag3_m_02328.3238Mm-hm.328.7404
267PRV_se0_ag3_m_03329.1711But listen, what I'm saying, how come I ask you cause I stop by, saw your truck.332.5251
268PRV_se0_ag3_m_02332.7713Mm-hm.333.1736
269PRV_se0_ag3_m_03333.2304I got to go get my son to work.334.6078
270PRV_se0_ag3_m_02334.7214Okay.335.1522
272 335.6161Well everything go fine. Everything fine.337.4412 
273PRV_se0_ag3_m_03337.5358Okay.337.9713
274PRV_se0_ag3_m_02338.0471Yeah.338.4399
275PRV_se0_ag3_m_03338.6577And uh- uh-339.4860
277 340.5889if you- you uh- you stay down here all day?342.4756 
279 342.6649Or what?343.1004 
280PRV_se0_ag3_m_02343.1808No I ain't gonna stay all day.344.1843
282 345.0979About- about time to leave now.346.6646 
284 346.8114[<laugh>]347.2847 
285PRV_se0_ag3_m_03346.9723[Oh yeah], [okay.]347.7282
286PRV_se0_ag3_m_02347.5025Yeah.347.7912
287PRV_se0_ag3_m_03348.2058Well anyhow-348.6460
288PRV_se0_ag3_m_02348.5560I /??/ if anything come up.349.9997
289PRV_se0_ag3_m_03350.4967Okay.350.8565
290PRV_se0_ag3_m_02350.9464Mm.351.3724
291PRV_int_01351.6470Well let me introduce myself. I'm /RD-NAME-3/,353.6492
293 354.2862and I'm doing a project for the O- uh, for the357.0316 
295 357.3298museum358.0020 
296PRV_se0_ag3_m_03358.1676[Uh-huh.]358.5700
297PRV_int_01358.2008[in town] here? We're doing-359.2421
298 359.3983It's called the Oral History Project,360.7406
300 361.3512and we're just interviewing people who- who lived in Princeville most of their lives.365.0623 
301PRV_se0_ag3_m_03365.2043Yeah.365.5687
302PRV_int_01365.6066Um, and uh, just getting their stories like about the flood and what was life like growing up here.370.6599
303PRV_se0_ag3_m_03370.6741Lord have [mercy.]371.5593
304PRV_int_01371.3510Things [/like that/.]372.2436
305PRV_se0_ag3_m_02371.6330[<laugh>]372.5986
306PRV_int_01372.7974Have you always lived in Princeville?374.5535
307PRV_se0_ag3_m_03374.7334No, I moved here in fifty seven.376.2339
308PRV_int_01376.7688In377.0812
310 377.2563fifty seven?377.9094 
311PRV_se0_ag3_m_03378.0184Nineteen fifty seven.379.0057
312PRV_int_01379.0388Oh okay.379.6968
314 379.9382Okay.380.3169 
315PRV_se0_ag3_m_03380.4825I been here ever since.381.3819
316PRV_int_01381.4008Yeah.381.7700
317PRV_se0_ag3_m_02381.8268<laugh>382.3144
318PRV_int_01382.2765And you came here383.1143
319 383.4504uh,383.8385
321 384.5324from where now?385.2566 
322PRV_se0_ag3_m_03385.6305Say what now?386.0849
323PRV_int_01386.0707Where did you move from?387.1168
324PRV_se0_ag3_m_03387.7748Uh, I stayed on388.7072
326 388.9439the /?/ farm for three years before I come here.392.0045 
327PRV_int_01392.1891Mm-hm.392.6955
328PRV_se0_ag3_m_03392.7287But I stayed on the /Howell- J.T. Howell/ farm all my life.395.7202
329PRV_se0_ag3_m_02395.8575[<laugh>]396.8400
330PRV_int_01396.0495[Okay.]396.5040
332 396.7548Uh, where is that at?397.8104 
333PRV_se0_ag3_m_03400.1108You know where that400.7214
335 400.9013club- That one over at um-402.0279 
337 402.8542You know where Frank stay?403.7110 
338PRV_se0_ag3_m_02404.4352Mm-hm.404.9275
339PRV_se0_ag3_m_03404.9227You know, my brother Frank?405.9168
340PRV_se0_ag3_m_02407.0623He still up there, [uh-]408.4472
341PRV_se0_ag3_m_03408.1631[You know] where uh-409.0436
342 409.2329old man /?/ house and all that crowd was?411.1121
343PRV_se0_ag3_m_02411.2946Yeah, uh-hm.411.8815
344PRV_se0_ag3_m_03411.9147Right there.412.2649
345PRV_se0_ag3_m_02412.4874Yeah, uh-huh.413.1359
346PRV_se0_ag3_m_03413.9623/That/414.2463
348 414.4829tall pole you see out there, but I don't know if Frank /?/ by our house front yard over there. [/Right there at/ that tall] pole.419.7500 
349PRV_se0_ag3_m_02418.5422[<laugh>]419.3848
350 419.7682Okay.420.4503
351PRV_int_01420.5397Mm.420.8805
352PRV_se0_ag3_m_02420.9279Yeah.421.3539
353PRV_int_01421.8982So it's uh, just a couple miles from here?423.8626
355 424.1466The farm?424.7336 
356PRV_se0_ag3_m_03424.8566Uh, about five, six, /unintelligible/.427.0841
357PRV_se0_ag3_m_02427.0888Uh, [it's-]427.5953
358PRV_int_01427.3444[About] six miles?428.2059
359PRV_se0_ag3_m_02428.2722I would say around six, eight miles, something- Yeah, something like that.431.2353
360PRV_int_01431.3090Sixteen miles?432.2699
361PRV_se0_ag3_m_02432.1847Seven- six or seven [I wanna say.]433.9787
362PRV_int_01433.5101[Six- six] or seven [miles?]434.9585
363PRV_se0_ag3_m_02434.4662[Y- yeah], uh-huh.435.2946
364PRV_int_01435.4650Okay. So you- you grew up mostly on- on a farm too, huh?438.6013
365PRV_se0_ag3_m_03439.1977Did what [now?]439.7317
366PRV_int_01439.5669[You m-] grew up mostly on a farm also,441.8484
367 442.3407just like uh,443.1832
369 443.3990/RD-NAME-2/ here. [You-]444.2321 
370PRV_se0_ag3_m_03443.8345[/unintelligible/]444.5161
371PRV_se0_ag3_m_02444.6013Yeah.444.9042
372PRV_se0_ag3_m_03444.8900Y- Oh,445.2687
373 445.4486/started/ about the same times.446.7218
374PRV_se0_ag3_m_02446.7834[Mm-hm.]447.2217
375PRV_int_01446.8023[Yeah.]447.1668
376PRV_se0_ag3_m_03447.1384/Start/ together.447.8295
377PRV_se0_ag3_m_02447.9336Mm-hm.448.3312
378PRV_int_01448.5300But you grew up on a farm most of your life?450.4498
379PRV_se0_ag3_m_02450.7480Yeah.451.1456
380PRV_se0_ag3_m_03451.3066Yeah.451.5811
381PRV_int_01451.6758Yo, okay.452.3763
383 452.7076Okay.453.1195 
384PRV_se0_ag3_m_03453.1715Mm, yeah.453.6449
385PRV_se0_ag3_m_02454.1419[Mm-hm.]454.6247
386PRV_int_01454.3833[And then] uh, well-455.5666
387 456.1611yeah cause we're basically- we know if you're from Princeville, we-459.0721
389 459.2094we459.4082 
391 459.5975got people from460.5111 
393 460.7336just outside of Princeville on the farms too463.0509 
395 463.5054and- and they eventually moved into town.465.5265 
396PRV_se0_ag3_m_03465.7679Yeah.466.0993
397PRV_se0_ag3_m_02466.2318[Mm-hm.]466.6862
398PRV_int_01466.3170[Um]466.8330
399 467.1170I don't suppose you might have a little time to-469.0509
401 469.2166to do an interview for the project?471.0295 
402PRV_se0_ag3_m_03472.2597Here, what now you say?473.1690
404 473.3962Uh.473.6613 
405PRV_int_01474.1989Do you wanna do a interview for the project?476.0118
407 476.1538Basically where we re- record the conversation and just talk to you for a little [bit?]479.8439 
408PRV_se0_ag3_m_03479.6262[Do I want] what?480.2084
409PRV_int_01480.6533Yeah, would you be willing to do one?482.1633
411 482.3006To482.4520 
413 482.6792just sit and talk for a little bit about484.4070 
415 484.6626growing up in Princeville?485.7161 
416PRV_se0_ag3_m_03486.3883Well I tell you what. I tell you what. You leave all the messaging with him and me and him'll get together, but I can't you [an /answer/]492.2521
417PRV_int_01491.8061[Oh, okay.]492.2841
418PRV_se0_ag3_m_02492.1043[Uh-]492.5161
419PRV_int_01492.4309Okay.492.7622
420PRV_se0_ag3_m_03492.7859/Ask a question./493.5101
421PRV_int_01493.1551[Okay.]493.7443
422PRV_se0_ag3_m_02493.5148[Uh- <laugh>]494.8639
423PRV_se0_ag3_m_03494.1444[/unintelligible/] when I was in the army.495.5869
424PRV_int_01495.7301Yeah.496.0472
425PRV_se0_ag3_m_03496.1987World War Two.496.9750
426PRV_int_01497.1690[Uh-huh.]497.5004
427PRV_se0_ag3_m_03497.3090[I /??/] in the Buffalo Division.499.0746
428PRV_int_01499.2592Really?499.7136
429PRV_se0_ag3_m_03499.7894Yes sir.500.3100
430PRV_int_01500.6130Wow.501.0485
431PRV_se0_ag3_m_02501.2946Mm-hm.501.8342
432PRV_se0_ag3_m_03501.7348/?? I was there/502.5537
433PRV_int_01502.7572Okay.503.2921
435 503.4747And you were- uh- you were in World War Two?505.0935 
436PRV_se0_ag3_m_03505.1835World War Two.505.9172
437PRV_int_01506.0308Okay.506.5798
439 507.7537Well,508.1135 
441 508.2507uh, we can probably work something out510.0995 
442PRV_se0_ag3_m_02510.1989[<laugh>]510.5893
443PRV_int_01510.2415[between the] three of us.511.2734
444PRV_se0_ag3_m_02511.2545[<laugh>]511.6332
445PRV_int_01511.9787You sound like a good person to have for the- for the-514.7572
447 514.8898history museum515.8439 
449 516.0995and talking to you about your life experience.518.6745 
450PRV_se0_ag3_m_03518.6082Well these people been by to talk to me,520.5016
451 520.6389times after times since the flood you know, [/they-/] they really have.523.6314
452PRV_int_01522.4924[Yeah?]522.8569
453 523.8509[Okay.]524.3432
454PRV_se0_ag3_m_02523.9314[But-]524.1302
455 524.9680But-525.3041
456PRV_se0_ag3_m_03524.9727[/?/]525.2567
457 525.5549[Yeah.]525.8910
458PRV_se0_ag3_m_02525.7111[but-]525.8863
459 525.9857what I'm saying now he's- he- he's hooked up /with his/. He can play it and let somebody else hear it.530.1971
460PRV_int_01530.3810[Yeah.]530.6982
461PRV_se0_ag3_m_02530.5940[And] that what he want you to do now, hook up [with this.]532.5584
462PRV_se0_ag3_m_03532.2129[Oh, you] recording it on tape- [okay.]534.1357
463PRV_se0_ag3_m_02533.5741[Yeah. Right.]534.2368
464PRV_se0_ag3_m_03534.7243Oh, okay.535.7468
465PRV_se0_ag3_m_02535.7184Let-535.9124
466PRV_se0_ag3_m_03536.4710I see.536.9585
467PRV_se0_ag3_m_02536.4757Y-536.6698
468 537.0532You wanna try this awhile?538.2981
469PRV_se0_ag3_m_03538.7998Huh?539.0412
470PRV_int_01538.9939You wanna switch- give you the microphone and just talk to you for a little bit?542.1822
471PRV_se0_ag3_m_03543.1479Well you can.543.7916
472PRV_int_01543.9147[Okay.]544.3265
473PRV_se0_ag3_m_02544.0567[/??/]544.4638
474PRV_se0_ag3_m_03544.3170[I] got to go though. /Unintelligible/.546.3952
475PRV_int_01545.9623Well we'll [just give] you a couple minutes, [maybe one] of you just [have a] seat there and w-549.8815
476PRV_se0_ag3_m_02546.4356[Uh-]546.6581
478 547.6900[Mm.]548.0024 
480 548.6934[Mm.]548.9396 
481PRV_int_01550.1703and then we can give you his microphone,551.7114
482PRV_se0_ag3_m_02551.9244Mm.552.2510
483PRV_int_01552.9941and uh, we'll just hook him up.554.2816
484PRV_se0_ag3_m_02554.2674/You get it- take it [loose like that/.]555.5928
485PRV_int_01554.8449[Alright.]555.5313
486 555.6496So you- here.556.1892
487PRV_se0_ag3_m_02556.5537Yeah.556.8093
488PRV_int_01556.8566And then [uh,]557.5930
489PRV_se0_ag3_m_02557.2901[Then] hook it on.558.0285
490PRV_int_01558.0427bring this around here, and we'll just hook it like right-560.1254
492 560.6508uh-561.2473 
494 561.4981let's see. Right562.3502 
496 562.8093there.563.2306 
498 563.4605There you go.563.9433 
500 564.6439And then maybe uh,565.6048 
502 566.0308and then we'll- can help me s-567.1147 
504 567.4508Make sure that568.1797 
506 569.4530you hear when I'm talking-570.4167 
508 570.6581[<laugh>]571.9124 
509PRV_se0_ag3_m_03570.8474[/Yeah I can./]571.7657
510PRV_int_01572.7124But then you said you were in World War Two?574.2413
511PRV_se0_ag3_m_03574.4401World War Two.575.1548
512PRV_int_01575.4037In the uh- what- what division?577.4012
513PRV_se0_ag3_m_03577.7752Ninety Second,578.8828
515 579.1479Buffalo579.8531 
517 580.0188Division.580.5206 
518PRV_int_01580.6058Wow.580.9371
520 581.2286Now what- what is that? What- what did you do with- with them?583.9740 
521PRV_se0_ag3_m_03584.0781What did I do?584.6934
522PRV_int_01584.8260Yeah what was your job s- with [them?]586.5206
523PRV_se0_ag3_m_03586.2981[Well]586.7667
524 587.5051I was587.9812
526 588.3362really, uh,589.2119 
528 590.1586combat soldier.591.0106 
529PRV_int_01591.2189Really?591.4981
530PRV_se0_ag3_m_03591.6638I w- I- I fought592.7383
532 592.9513in World War Two.593.8771 
533PRV_int_01593.9386Okay.594.3267
534PRV_se0_ag3_m_03595.6284Sure did.596.2059
535PRV_int_01596.3432Yeah.596.6934
536PRV_se0_ag3_m_03596.9538I used to shoot that big gun, that's why come I, uh,599.6234
538 599.8392can't hear on that side. It's-600.8521 
539PRV_int_01601.0746Okay.601.4107
540PRV_se0_ag3_m_03601.3634the gun i- in between us?602.8875
541PRV_int_01603.0627Yeah.603.3372
542PRV_se0_ag3_m_03603.6165I was on this side. I used to pull that /linger/605.5098
543PRV_int_01605.7303Okay.606.0995
544PRV_se0_ag3_m_03606.0522on number three.606.8569
545PRV_int_01607.1030Okay.607.6190
546PRV_se0_ag3_m_03607.6852And, uh,608.1491
548 608.7550from that,609.2094 
550 611.0744you know, uh- that- that gun is different cause it's a- that was a big gun I was firing. [I w- it wont] no little thing like I got there in the house.616.5868 
551PRV_int_01614.5609[Yeah.]614.9301
552PRV_se0_ag3_m_03616.7809[It wont] nothing like that, that [one oh] five-618.5729
553PRV_int_01616.7860[Mm.]616.9845
555 617.6530[Mm.]617.9447 
556PRV_se0_ag3_m_03618.7953a one fifty five, and w- every know and then we had to get that two forty.622.3028
557PRV_int_01622.6247Okay.623.0223
559 623.4794[Wow.]623.7587 
560PRV_se0_ag3_m_03623.5078[Yeah.]623.8108
561 624.7669/Join in with/ General625.9408
563 627.9005Mark Clark, I think that's his name.629.8629 
565 630.2889General Mark Clark.631.3113 
566PRV_int_01631.9030General Mark [Clark.]632.8118
567PRV_se0_ag3_m_03632.4426[And he would-]632.8118
568 633.3751Yeah.633.7679
570 635.3820Uh, he would,635.9954 
572 636.2037uh,636.4735 
574 636.6675w- t- explained to us that he had been pushed back639.2094 
576 639.4981thirty mile640.3821 
577PRV_int_01640.8046Hm.641.0886
578PRV_se0_ag3_m_03641.1738in the641.6471
580 641.9291Atlantic Ocean.642.9089 
581PRV_int_01643.1267Mm-hm.643.6426
582PRV_se0_ag3_m_03644.6982That what he said when he645.6023
584 645.7963when the Buffalo646.6673 
586 646.8330soldier got in there.647.8723 
587PRV_int_01648.1611[Okay.]648.5019
588PRV_se0_ag3_m_03648.2368[Naples], Italy.649.0320
589 649.6284/That where we landed there on/.650.8402
591 651.5265Got on the /???/.652.7620 
593 653.0270That what was on- /??/ was on the ship.654.6439 
594PRV_int_01654.8995[Mm-hm.]655.2829
595PRV_se0_ag3_m_03655.0509[Sixteen] thousand656.3810
596 657.2804black soldiers.658.2176
597PRV_int_01658.4543Really?658.7809
598PRV_se0_ag3_m_03658.9304Yes sir. That- my outfit was a black outfit.661.2592
599PRV_int_01661.3113Okay.661.6994
600PRV_se0_ag3_m_03661.8462Uh-huh.662.2532
602 663.2425So he told us,664.0803 
604 664.4590made a speech to us, he said, uh,665.9197 
606 667.1125<ts>667.2024 
608 667.9834Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ get the guns straightened out. Say, I want y'all to come on up671.0791 
609PRV_int_01671.3631Mm-hm.671.7500
610PRV_se0_ag3_m_03672.0380on the line672.7385
611PRV_int_01672.7764Mm-hm.673.1551
612PRV_se0_ag3_m_03674.3668and face old General Kesselring.676.3880
613PRV_int_01676.6531[Mm.]676.9182
614PRV_se0_ag3_m_03676.8093[He] was a German General.677.9859
615PRV_int_01678.1469Mm-hm.678.5113
616PRV_se0_ag3_m_03680.0024So, uh,680.7218
618 681.5076when681.7632 
620 682.2502he got up on the line,683.3610 
622 684.9515I was on number three686.2154 
624 686.3006going to a six gun battery.687.9147 
625PRV_int_01688.0614Mm-hm.688.4732
626PRV_se0_ag3_m_03688.6578I was on number three. I had the /??/ end.690.5208
627PRV_int_01690.6770Mm-hm.691.0983
628PRV_se0_ag3_m_03691.1551First one is shot.691.9550
629PRV_int_01692.2674Mm.692.5420
630PRV_se0_ag3_m_03694.2176Okay.694.7336
632 694.8472He tell us, sh- fire one round and see where we were hitting at.697.7894 
633PRV_int_01697.9692Mm-hm.698.3668
634PRV_se0_ag3_m_03699.0532Then I- he told me to fire another.700.5158
635PRV_int_01700.6511Mm-hm.701.0365
636PRV_se0_ag3_m_03702.4119So what d- what we had to do704.0402
638 704.2911is they find a target where we were trying to h- get.706.4874 
639PRV_int_01706.7951Yeah.707.1264
640PRV_se0_ag3_m_03707.9386And we found that target.709.0367
642 710.8449That one had made me feel good. Said, turn loose now.713.2826 
643PRV_int_01713.5504Mm.713.8581
644PRV_se0_ag3_m_03713.7729Twenty five rounds apiece, and I was a natural-born pulling that linger.716.9207
645PRV_int_01716.9680Okay.717.3893
646PRV_se0_ag3_m_03717.4839I used to love to do it.718.4401
647PRV_int_01718.4780[<laugh>]719.5761
648PRV_se0_ag3_m_03718.8898[<laugh>]719.5524
649 720.3693Old General Kesselring come backing up.722.2485
650PRV_int_01722.4710Yeah.722.8118
651PRV_se0_ag3_m_03723.6117So you got put two /unintelligible/ for the one oh five, so when you pull that one out and put the one fifty five there.728.3195
652PRV_int_01728.4331Uh-huh.728.8213
653PRV_se0_ag3_m_03728.9112So we could reach him anyhow.729.9904
654PRV_int_01730.1371Okay.730.5821
655PRV_se0_ag3_m_03731.2069Next thing I know, General Kesselring-733.0367
657 733.1740but for f-733.7326 
659 734.1870before he'd h- /hoist/ the flag though,736.2697 
661 736.7667we were intending to put that two forty in there. We'll reach him, sure enough.739.4912 
662PRV_int_01739.6048Mm-hm.740.0686
663PRV_se0_ag3_m_03740.5893But he h- he rol- he uh, throwed up the white flag.743.4814
664PRV_int_01743.8392Okay.744.2699
665PRV_se0_ag3_m_03744.3599Uh, we surrender.745.2971
666PRV_int_01745.5432Uh-huh.746.0024
667PRV_se0_ag3_m_03746.2627Okay.746.8213
669 747.4934Left from that.748.2271 
671 750.2652We went- come on out, uh-751.8178 
673 751.9692I'd been up there nine months now753.5076 
674PRV_int_01753.5644Mm-hm.754.0141
675PRV_se0_ag3_m_03754.0283on that-754.3691
677 754.8566in that same place755.9197 
679 756.5634fighting, where we didn't never have to move. We just- we would- we had to get a bigger gun as he was backing up.760.9182 
680PRV_int_01761.1292Mm-hm.761.5078
681PRV_se0_ag3_m_03761.6688Well he backed up so far in the- in- in the763.5527
683 763.7420Atlantic Ocean, he couldn't get no further back, so he had to stop.766.3691 
684PRV_int_01766.5916Okay.766.9986
685PRV_se0_ag3_m_03767.9244And on the same time,769.2782
687 770.0024our, uh,770.7550 
689 771.4603tank771.7301 
691 772.6673commander,773.2712 
693 773.4416George S.-774.6391 
695 775.0746George S. Patton, I think that's [what his name] was.777.2946 
696PRV_int_01776.5041[Really?]776.7739
698 777.2804Wow, okay.778.0046 
699PRV_se0_ag3_m_03778.1040Uh,778.4590
701 778.8803he told old779.6214 
703 780.6817Adolf Hitler.781.4296 
704PRV_int_01781.6994Mm-hm.782.1775
705PRV_se0_ag3_m_03782.2154He was the k- he was the President over there784.1987
706PRV_int_01784.3407Mm-hm.784.7951
707PRV_se0_ag3_m_03785.1150in, uh, Berlin.786.1989
708PRV_int_01786.4025Mm-hm.786.8143
709PRV_se0_ag3_m_03787.5953He say, I'll tell you what now. Say, I'm gonna give you a chance.789.8626
710PRV_int_01790.0330Mm-hm.790.4164
711PRV_se0_ag3_m_03790.3786Say if you don't give up, he said, I'm gonna spin my tank wheel793.4107
712PRV_int_01793.7515Mm-hm.794.1680
713PRV_se0_ag3_m_03794.1870right in the heart of Berlin.795.7821
714PRV_int_01795.9715Mm-hm.796.4117
715PRV_se0_ag3_m_03796.4807If it cost me two o-797.8297
717 798.0238/GR/ truckload of dog tags799.7610 
718PRV_int_01799.8367Mm-hm.800.3479
719PRV_se0_ag3_m_03800.3148on the twenty fifth day of December.801.9478
720PRV_int_01802.2129Mm.802.5490
721PRV_se0_ag3_m_03803.2333He didn't get there on the twenty fifth day of December. Something happened and he couldn't make it the twenty fifth day of S-807.7632
723 807.9099December, but he w- got on the twenty sixth day of December, the next day811.4154 
724PRV_int_01811.5196Uh-huh.811.9077
725PRV_se0_ag3_m_03811.9503and come going all around in there,813.3561
726PRV_int_01813.7727Yeah, [okay.]814.2037
727PRV_se0_ag3_m_03814.0235tearing that-814.4496
728 815.4152honestly, it's true, cause mowing it down- I'd like to see somebody mow down a yard with a- with a-819.2757
730 819.4981with a819.8200 
732 820.3312um,820.6815 
734 820.9493lawn mower.821.5080 
735PRV_int_01821.6309Uh, wow.822.4309
736PRV_se0_ag3_m_03822.6770So he throwed up the flag.823.9929
737PRV_int_01824.1349Mm-hm.824.6556
738PRV_se0_ag3_m_03825.5644So the next move we had to make then,827.3205
740 829.0841said, ninety second830.0071 
742 830.6082Buffalo division. That- that was my boy talking now.832.9182 
743PRV_int_01833.0128Right.833.3327
744PRV_se0_ag3_m_03833.8865He said I was at that tour /??/,835.4154
746 836.9585I'm gonna call old- old Tojo,838.7667 
748 839.2637from Tokyo,839.9717 
749PRV_int_01840.1185Uh-huh.840.4498
750PRV_se0_ag3_m_03840.4072said that's where we headed now.841.5716
751PRV_int_01841.7042Uh-huh.842.1163
752PRV_se0_ag3_m_03843.1384Lord Montgomery, he was over there that Royal Air Force,845.7729
753PRV_int_01845.9149Okay.846.3220
754PRV_se0_ag3_m_03847.4628And that was the baddest thing in this world, now don't let nobody fool you.850.4306
755PRV_int_01850.6247Mm-hm.851.0744
756PRV_se0_ag3_m_03851.0696They're all Air Force.852.0001
757PRV_int_01852.2510Mm-hm.852.7007
758PRV_se0_ag3_m_03854.7550He said, if you don't give up856.1087
759PRV_int_01856.5513Mm-hm.856.9796
760PRV_se0_ag3_m_03857.5741before we get started,858.6155
761PRV_int_01858.8474Mm-hm.859.2450
762PRV_se0_ag3_m_03860.7408say I'm gonna darken the sky862.2176
764 862.4070like a cloud.863.1170 
765PRV_int_01863.3895Mm.863.7209
766PRV_se0_ag3_m_03863.8250Now we were just- I was listening at the same time /unintelligible/ I was listening at him talk.867.6969
767PRV_int_01867.8484Mm-hm.868.3075
768PRV_se0_ag3_m_03869.0886He said, if you don't give up, see I'm gonna darken the sky871.9172
770 872.0734like a cloud.872.7597 
771PRV_int_01872.9727Mm.873.2331
772PRV_se0_ag3_m_03874.7714And said, uh,875.5098
774 876.7575I'm gonna put so many bombs on top of Ber- uh,879.7301 
776 881.0412Tokyo,881.6140 
777PRV_int_01881.6735Mm-hm.882.2321
778PRV_se0_ag3_m_03883.7704with that B884.4142
780 884.6224Seventeen. I know you heard talk of the B [Seventeen] and B Twenty Four too.888.1137 
781PRV_int_01886.5537[Yeah.]886.8708
782 888.1279Mm-hm.888.5397
783PRV_se0_ag3_m_03888.8663That thing- them planes, we don't carry nothing but them big891.3845
785 891.6827loaded bombs.892.5300 
786PRV_int_01892.5632Yes.893.0602
787PRV_se0_ag3_m_03894.1705He said, I'm'a darken the sky like a cloud.896.3526
788PRV_int_01896.4899Mm.896.7834
789PRV_se0_ag3_m_03897.7869Said if you don't give up, said I'm gonna break Tokyo-900.3457
791 900.7480Tokyo aloose from the Earth and let it float down the Pacific Ocean like a ship.904.7951 
792PRV_int_01904.9040Hm.905.2921
793PRV_se0_ag3_m_03906.1374Tojo said never happen.907.2024
794PRV_int_01907.7562[Mm, huh.]908.0497
795PRV_se0_ag3_m_03907.8085[He throw] the flames up over there too.909.3372
796PRV_int_01909.8342Yeah.910.1229
797PRV_se0_ag3_m_03910.5111So he called us again, said Ninety Second Buffalo Divisions, I got another announcement.914.8307
798PRV_int_01915.0721Mm.915.4934
799PRV_se0_ag3_m_03915.9289Said we were supposed to been load you on that ship917.6925
801 918.1516that go Tokyo.919.2308 
802PRV_int_01919.4391Mm-hm.919.8651
803PRV_se0_ag3_m_03920.2674Said, but we don't- won't have to go over there now. Said, but I'm'a still load you on the ship923.7500
805 924.4782and send you home.925.3444 
806PRV_int_01925.6379Oh.926.0355
807PRV_se0_ag3_m_03925.9929Lord have mercy, I went crazy.927.5265
808PRV_int_01927.5265Yeah that's-928.2555
809PRV_se0_ag3_m_03928.1277Lord [have mercy.]928.9418
810PRV_int_01928.5490[happy.]929.0460
811PRV_se0_ag3_m_03929.2921He didn't- And that's what he did.930.6297
812PRV_int_01930.7385Yeah.931.0404
813PRV_se0_ag3_m_03931.3208Send us home.931.9598
814PRV_int_01932.2154Really?932.5893
815PRV_se0_ag3_m_03932.6272So932.9538
817 933.2331that-933.4697 
819 933.6165that go to show you right there that Ninety Second Buffalo Division937.3255 
821 937.7610won World War Two.939.1857 
822PRV_int_01939.4508Really.939.7348
823PRV_se0_ag3_m_03940.0945That gon- that show you?940.9040
824PRV_int_01941.1623Mm-hm.941.7019
825PRV_se0_ag3_m_03941.7067Alright.942.1090
827 942.5871But they wouldn't give us no credit, and still won't give none to the day.945.0958 
828PRV_int_01945.5455Really.945.8673
829PRV_se0_ag3_m_03946.2933Now cause we're all black soldiers.947.6593
831 947.8061That's what it- what it's all about.949.3018 
832PRV_int_01949.9645Was it- was it harder951.1999
834 951.5123being a black soldier?952.4732 
835PRV_se0_ag3_m_03952.7478What's that?953.1312
836PRV_int_01953.2333Was it harder953.9244
838 954.3457being a black soldier?955.3444 
840 956.1207Was it harder on-956.9964 
842 957.1763being a black soldier?958.0851 
843PRV_se0_ag3_m_03957.9999What- what you saying now?958.8330
844PRV_se0_ag3_m_02958.8756Was it harder959.7966
846 960.2699to be a black soldier?961.5290 
847PRV_se0_ag3_m_03962.4615No cause them black soldiers didn't care, /do they/.964.5064
849 964.6294Just like I didn't. I would /unintelligible/ and beat you half to death if i-967.8462 
851 967.9976cause I was trained to do that see?969.5928 
852PRV_se0_ag3_m_02969.3845Oh, okay.969.8295
853PRV_se0_ag3_m_03969.7490That was all back with my first training.971.2684
854PRV_se0_ag3_m_02971.4842Oh.971.9670
855PRV_se0_ag3_m_03972.0901For to- for to fight them Japs, you know, them Japs /?/ big, that big if you don't know how to fight 'em, he gonna whoop you to death.976.5016
856PRV_int_01976.7099Uh-huh.977.2069
857PRV_se0_ag3_m_03978.1217But, uh,978.6092
858PRV_int_01979.4376<laugh>979.9677
859PRV_se0_ag3_m_03980.0103I took training from981.2836
861 981.6292the highest class there was,983.3596 
862PRV_int_01983.6768Okay.984.0791
863PRV_se0_ag3_m_03984.4483that would984.8270
865 985.1678you remem- I know you know hear talk of Joe Louis.987.2268 
866PRV_int_01987.4114Mm-hm.987.8422
867PRV_se0_ag3_m_03987.8895I took training from him.988.9864
868PRV_int_01989.0614I'm from Detroit.989.8992
869PRV_se0_ag3_m_03990.4057He told me, said,991.2435
871 991.8305my number one t-992.9807 
873 993.6765one twenty eight. It was one twenty eight,995.2223 
874PRV_int_01995.5963Okay.996.0176
875PRV_se0_ag3_m_03996.9500that was my number.997.6222
876PRV_int_01997.8021[Yeah.]998.1097
877PRV_se0_ag3_m_03997.8257[Didn't never] call my name.998.9097
878 999.1511Always call me by number.1000.4291
879PRV_int_011000.6969One twenty eight. Okay.1001.7875
880PRV_se0_ag3_m_031002.5335Said the way you can hook anybody you meet up with,1004.9854
882 1006.1189said, I'll tell you how to do it.1007.1608 
884 1007.3643I don't care how big he is.1008.3868 
886 1009.5323Say if you get close enough to him, say job his eyes out right quick.1012.3865 
887PRV_int_011012.4745Hm.1012.8153
888PRV_se0_ag3_m_031012.8342Put his eyes out, you can beat him to death, and that's exactly what I do and every time I-1016.0624
890 1016.2139somebody bothered me I job his eyes out and come out and beat him half to death. I [don't care] how big he was.1020.7228 
891PRV_int_011019.8377[Hm.]1020.0696
892 1020.8364Mm, [okay.]1021.4045
893PRV_se0_ag3_m_031021.0684[<laugh>]1021.4376
894PRV_int_011021.5891Wow.1022.1287
895PRV_se0_ag3_m_031022.1713Yes, sir.1022.7724
896PRV_int_011023.4682Wow.1023.8374
897PRV_se0_ag3_m_031024.2587That's right.1024.7794
899 1025.3075I proved it when I come home too.1026.7134 
900PRV_int_011026.9074Yeah.1027.2057
901PRV_se0_ag3_m_031027.3098I do- sure did.1028.2186
902PRV_int_011028.5594Yeah.1028.8292
903PRV_se0_ag3_m_031030.1356Um, and if they shoot, Lord have mercy. I take a rifle, and I guarantee you five hundred yards, I would put that-1034.8056
905 1035.0612that,1035.2978 
907 1036.1621um, uh,1036.8200 
909 1037.6768in that little bullseye about like that. Well long as I could see it, I could put them /on sit duck/,1041.1038 
911 1041.4162every bullet, I put right in the center of that bullseye.1043.6673 
912PRV_int_011043.6436Mm-hm.1044.1264
913PRV_se0_ag3_m_031044.6518Expert.1045.1204
914PRV_int_011045.8305How long were you in the Service?1047.3499
915PRV_se0_ag3_m_031047.6860Three years,1048.4339
916PRV_int_011048.7253Mm.1049.0283
917PRV_se0_ag3_m_031048.9336two months, and two weeks.1050.2590
918PRV_int_011050.5240Wow.1050.8222
919PRV_se0_ag3_m_031052.0103Sure was.1052.5263
920PRV_int_011052.8198Counting the days.1053.7617
922 1054.3561Were you drafted?1055.1939 
923PRV_se0_ag3_m_031055.7714Was I driving?1056.4010
924PRV_int_011056.7276Drafted.1057.3003
925PRV_se0_ag3_m_031057.7595Oh yeah, I was drafted. [Yes sir.]1059.1700
926PRV_int_011058.7393[Okay.]1059.1558
927PRV_se0_ag3_m_031059.3688Yeah.1059.7238
928PRV_int_011060.4177So what happened when you came home1061.8756
930 1062.0412from- from Service?1063.2435 
931PRV_se0_ag3_m_031064.5499What did I do then?1065.3688
932PRV_int_011065.4493Yeah.1065.7286
933PRV_se0_ag3_m_031067.2649Well,1068.1832
935 1068.4672I s-1068.7465 
937 1068.9169s- stayed single for about-1070.3937 
939 1071.1984from- from-1072.2824 
941 1073.6862I stayed single I reckon about six, seven years.1076.1163 
942PRV_int_011076.4363Okay.1076.8558
943PRV_se0_ag3_m_031077.2647Then I got married and it was,1078.7747
945 1079.4069you know-1079.8566 
946PRV_int_011080.5004Oh when you came back, were- did you move back to Princeville?1082.9618
948 1083.7570Or d- back to the farm.1084.9864 
950 1085.1087Where- where did you [go-]1085.8803 
951PRV_se0_ag3_m_031085.6152[Went back] to the farm.1086.4672
952PRV_int_011086.5004Back to the farm.1087.2482
953PRV_se0_ag3_m_031087.2624Mm-hm.1087.7311
954PRV_int_011087.8683Okay, and when did you move to Princeville?1089.5392
955PRV_se0_ag3_m_031090.6733I moved to Prince- from- from- where I /unintelligible/?1092.9879
956PRV_int_011093.0163Yeah.1093.3192
957PRV_se0_ag3_m_031094.1192Well,1094.5452
959 1095.7854I moved in- Well f-1096.8389 
961 1096.9904w- where I moved at- where I'm at now?1098.3300 
962PRV_int_011098.3631Yeah.1098.7418
963PRV_se0_ag3_m_031099.4329Fifty seven.1100.0482
964PRV_int_011100.4458Fifty seven.1101.0328
965PRV_se0_ag3_m_031100.9996Yeah I w- c- come home in-1101.9463
966 1102.7064Let me see now. Wait a minute now. Let me get this thing right.1104.5288
968 1107.0044Let's see.1107.4966 
970 1107.6812Fifty four.1108.7699 
972 1109.8803Fifty five.1110.6654 
974 1112.0955Fifty six. Fifty seven.1113.6339 
976 1113.8706/?/ that's right.1114.7510 
978 1115.4259Fifty seven.1115.9655 
979PRV_int_011116.2022Mm-hm.1116.5856
980PRV_se0_ag3_m_031116.7796Mm-hm.1117.2340
982 1117.7831[I s-]1118.1192 
983PRV_int_011117.8210[/What uh-/]1118.1097
984PRV_se0_ag3_m_031118.2896I stayed over there on- on /Mill Pond/ three years.1121.0470
985PRV_int_011121.5253Okay.1121.9560
986PRV_se0_ag3_m_031122.2069Uh-huh.1122.6376
987PRV_int_011123.3050And what- what made you move to Princeville? Why'd you move to Princeville?1126.5921
988PRV_se0_ag3_m_031126.7983Well see,1127.3217
990 1127.6199back in them days,1128.6944 
992 1128.9595my daddy way back there a long time ago, he used to be a carpenter.1132.4341 
993PRV_int_011132.6449Uh-huh.1133.0093
994PRV_se0_ag3_m_031133.7856He helped build Fort Bragg, North Carolina.1136.1192
995PRV_int_011136.1571Really.1136.5310
996PRV_se0_ag3_m_031136.7109Yes sir.1137.2316
997PRV_int_011137.3026Wow.1137.6434
998PRV_se0_ag3_m_031138.7253And uh,1139.5537
1000 1139.6767uh, he was planning on down there where we- where I'm at now,1142.2801 
1001PRV_int_011142.4316Mm-hm.1142.7487
1002PRV_se0_ag3_m_031142.7345building a house down there for the family. He had a big family,1145.1797
1003 1145.4022nine head of boys and1146.7654
1005 1147.5086about five or six- about1148.6115 
1007 1148.8955five girls.1149.5250 
1008PRV_int_011149.6812Okay.1150.0978
1009PRV_se0_ag3_m_031150.4887So-1150.8673
1010PRV_int_011151.3785Were you the youngest or where were you in the nine?1153.6317
1012 1154.6257Were you the youngest1155.5704 
1014 1155.7901of the [nine?]1156.3628 
1015PRV_se0_ag3_m_031156.0599[No. No.]1157.0803
1016PRV_int_011156.5265[No? The] oldest?1157.5205
1017PRV_se0_ag3_m_031157.6294No.1157.9917
1018PRV_int_011158.2164<laugh>1158.7702
1019PRV_se0_ag3_m_031159.9725Five under-1160.4837
1021 1160.6588We were- I'm the- I'm the- I'm the fifth boy.1162.5853 
1022PRV_int_011162.7632Okay.1163.1135
1023PRV_se0_ag3_m_031164.1406We were nine head of boys, I'm the fifth one.1165.7831
1025 1165.9251In the middle.1166.3937 
1026PRV_int_011166.6115Okay.1167.0564
1027PRV_se0_ag3_m_031167.1463Mm-hm.1167.5629
1028PRV_int_011167.7428What [year were you] born?1168.7131
1029PRV_se0_ag3_m_031167.9226[Five girls.]1168.4433
1030 1169.1087Huh?1169.3833
1031PRV_int_011169.4401What year were you born?1170.5193
1032PRV_se0_ag3_m_031172.0103Uh,1172.4269
1034 1172.6351December the seven,1173.8422 
1036 1173.9700nineteen twenty one.1174.9864 
1037PRV_int_011175.0709Okay.1175.5158
1039 1175.7856Okay.1176.1832 
1041 1177.1062So you s- five older1178.5736 
1043 1178.7393brothers?1179.2363 
1045 1179.8895Were you all brothers and sisters?1181.2365 
1046PRV_se0_ag3_m_031181.3217It's all brothers and sisters.1182.4294
1047PRV_int_011182.4199Okay.1182.8459
1048PRV_se0_ag3_m_031182.9548Mm-hm.1183.3902
1049PRV_int_011183.8210So you're /d-/ father was a carpenter?1185.6860
1050PRV_se0_ag3_m_031186.1384That's right.1186.5312
1051PRV_int_011187.0851And what did your mother- your mother just1189.0400
1053 1189.2198kept [you out-]1189.6269 
1054PRV_se0_ag3_m_031189.3760[Well we'd-]1189.8115
1055 1189.9251Well all1190.3227
1057 1190.5689the rest of the1191.0422 
1059 1191.2931family worked on the farm.1192.5143 
1061 1192.7348[Well he just] did carpenting, you know, extra.1194.6234 
1062PRV_int_011192.7537[Okay.]1193.0425
1063 1194.7986At the [side?]1195.3997
1064PRV_se0_ag3_m_031195.1488[That's] how he kept his family going.1196.7251
1065PRV_int_011196.8339Okay.1197.2741
1066PRV_se0_ag3_m_031197.4966Uh-huh.1197.8753
1067PRV_int_011198.3182Now was he a sharecropper?1199.8755
1069 1200.0743Did he1200.4010 
1071 1200.8270[farm-]1201.2814 
1072PRV_se0_ag3_m_031200.9926[Share-]1201.2719
1073 1201.5228the farm.1202.1523
1074PRV_int_011202.5405On [somebody else's] farm?1203.6292
1075PRV_se0_ag3_m_031202.6777[Sharecropper.]1203.2978
1076 1203.7286Mm.1203.8753
1077PRV_int_011204.0741Yeah?1204.3581
1079 1205.1513What was the farm life like?1206.4672 
1081 1207.7074What was it like growing up on the farm?1209.2789 
1082PRV_se0_ag3_m_031210.0457Oh, I had a good time.1210.9336
1083PRV_int_011211.0519Yeah?1211.3075
1084PRV_se0_ag3_m_031211.4921Yes sir. I really did. I had a good time.1213.8020
1085PRV_int_011214.4079What was good about it?1215.2221
1086PRV_se0_ag3_m_031216.0078Yeah.1216.3392
1088 1216.9336Cause my dad always kept a car for us.1218.6208 
1089PRV_int_011219.2766Okay.1219.6458
1090PRV_se0_ag3_m_031219.7689Mm-hm. Bought a brand new- But you- you remember that thirty eight Chevrolet he bought?1223.0661
1092 1223.6152For us when I was going to school.1224.8790 
1093PRV_se0_ag3_m_021226.4647[I don't remember.]1227.3404
1094PRV_se0_ag3_m_031226.4837[A black thirty eight] Chevrolet? You don't remember?1228.2019
1095 1228.3486Y'all had a- What kind of car y'all had?1230.0743
1097 1231.4328Y'all had a- a-1232.3369 
1099 1233.6386I don't either-1234.2161 
1101 1234.6942But anyhow, me and him1235.8471 
1103 1236.0980just about come up together.1237.2151 
1104PRV_int_011237.4281Yeah?1237.7831
1105PRV_se0_ag3_m_031237.9062Mm-hm. [About-]1238.6115
1106PRV_int_011238.1571[When did you] meet each other?1239.3167
1107PRV_se0_ag3_m_031239.7664Say what?1240.0504
1108PRV_int_011240.3230How did you meet each other?1241.3880
1109PRV_se0_ag3_m_021242.3442[/inaudible/]1243.4754
1110PRV_se0_ag3_m_031242.4578[Oh, at school.]1243.3997
1111PRV_se0_ag3_m_021243.6837Well we been known each other about all his life, but actually ended up close /unintelligible/1247.7288
1113 1248.0601down at the fire department together /??/.1249.7263 
1114PRV_se0_ag3_m_031249.7074That's right.1250.2186
1115PRV_int_011250.2281Oh, [okay.]1250.8339
1116PRV_se0_ag3_m_031250.5689[That when] we got- that was in1251.6434
1117 1251.8516uh, after I m- first- I moved here, that's when we joined the fire department.1254.7654
1118PRV_int_011254.8554Okay.1255.1441
1119PRV_se0_ag3_m_031255.0400But we went to school together.1256.1665
1120PRV_int_011256.3653Oh really?1256.8529
1121PRV_se0_ag3_m_031256.8955Yeah.1257.1842
1123 1257.3167Uh-huh.1257.7238 
1124PRV_int_011257.6718Where- uh, where'd you go to school together?1259.4590
1125PRV_se0_ag3_m_031259.9087/RD-SCHOOL-3/.1260.6092
1127 1260.9074[That-]1261.1583 
1128PRV_int_011260.9074[Oh-]1261.1583
1129PRV_se0_ag3_m_021261.4044Down in Conetoe.1262.1665
1130PRV_se0_ag3_m_031262.3085[Down in] Conetoe, [yeah.]1263.2552
1131PRV_int_011262.3133[So you-]1262.7677
1133 1262.9996[Oh], okay.1263.5297 
1134PRV_se0_ag3_m_031263.7522[Mm.]1264.1404
1135PRV_int_011263.7522[Okay.]1264.1404
1136 1264.5786So you met in school cause you- do- how far did you live from each other?1267.5322
1137PRV_se0_ag3_m_021269.0091We lived a good ways from [each other. <laugh>]1271.3785
1138PRV_int_011270.4129[Oh, okay, but you went] to school at the same place?1272.7171
1139PRV_se0_ag3_m_031272.6282Same place, [yeah.]1273.4944
1140PRV_int_011273.3050[Okay], [so you s-]1274.0624
1141PRV_se0_ag3_m_031273.6695[You know], long then, people come from every- It's like just the school right here. They would come that way. We would come that way.1278.8128
1142PRV_int_011278.7086Yeah.1279.0116
1143PRV_se0_ag3_m_031279.0589That way.1279.6222
1145 1279.8683That way, like that.1280.6115 
1146PRV_int_011280.5357Okay.1280.8765
1147PRV_se0_ag3_m_031281.1369Course we didn't have no bus to ride. We had to walk.1283.0425
1148PRV_int_011283.3407Yeah.1283.6673
1149PRV_se0_ag3_m_031283.8897Yeah.1284.1737
1150PRV_int_011284.4956So you knew each other's families?1285.9440
1152 1286.0766You- [your families] knew each other?1287.3783 
1153PRV_se0_ag3_m_031286.1997[Mm-hm.]1286.6493
1154PRV_se0_ag3_m_021287.5203[Yeah.]1287.8753
1155PRV_se0_ag3_m_031287.5392[Yep.]1287.9084
1156PRV_int_011288.0741Oh, okay.1288.6847
1158 1289.6625So you-1290.1927 
1160 1290.3583so growing up on the farm, you liked the farm life growing [up?]1293.2173 
1161PRV_se0_ag3_m_031292.9097[I liked] it.1293.5345
1162 1293.7996I didn't have no- no choice. I liked it.1295.4448
1163PRV_int_011295.4117<laugh> You had no choice [but to like it.]1297.4681
1164PRV_se0_ag3_m_031296.8080[That's right, didn't have] no choice at all. I- I enjoyed it myself cause see,1300.1025
1165 1300.9288uh,1301.4448
1167 1302.2305there was enough out there to- to keep you company anyhow, /well you do, you know, how that kind of-/1306.0836 
1169 1306.3419yeah.1306.5218 
1170PRV_int_011307.2886Yeah.1307.6436
1171PRV_se0_ag3_m_031308.0459Mm.1308.4293
1172PRV_int_011308.5903What kind of things would you do on the farm1310.4411
1174 1310.6162when you were young?1311.3546 
1175PRV_se0_ag3_m_031311.5960What kind of what?1312.0930
1176PRV_int_011312.2330What kind of things would you do on the farm when you were young?1314.5619
1178 1315.2530/?/1315.4707 
1179PRV_se0_ag3_m_031315.7168Some of everything. Pick cotton, pull, uh,1317.9842
1181 1318.5880br-1318.9004 
1183 1319.0424oh-1319.2176 
1185 1319.3738tobacco and1320.5950 
1187 1320.8342shuck up peanuts and stuff like that. [/??/]1322.9570 
1188PRV_int_011322.6493[Huh.]1322.8623
1189PRV_se0_ag3_m_031323.2079but now see, you got machines that do all that now.1324.9864
1190PRV_int_011325.2697Uh-huh.1325.5821
1191PRV_se0_ag3_m_031325.5915But at that time, we were the machine.1327.3571
1192PRV_int_011327.4470Yeah. Yeah.1328.5121
1193PRV_se0_ag3_m_031328.3985That's what I'm saying /what/.1329.3546
1194 1330.1668We ain't had none of that kind of stuff.1331.3691
1195PRV_int_011331.3785Uh-huh.1331.8471
1196PRV_se0_ag3_m_031331.8235Yeah.1332.1406
1197PRV_int_011332.6897So you and your brothers1334.0245
1199 1334.2801[and your- your family?]1335.1747 
1200PRV_se0_ag3_m_031334.4174[All us- all] us were together.1335.9510
1201PRV_int_011336.1810Yeah.1336.4271
1202PRV_se0_ag3_m_031336.4082Brothers and sisters, all us just get out there in that cotton patch and tear that cotton patch all to pieces.1340.1712
1203PRV_se0_ag3_m_021340.3511Mm.1340.6588
1204PRV_int_011341.2694[Now you used] to go to school at the same time?1343.2602
1205PRV_se0_ag3_m_031341.3215[Yes, sir.]1341.7427
1206 1343.6294Yep,1343.9181
1208 1344.0459going to school too.1344.8978 
1209PRV_int_011344.9737How far along did you get in school?1346.4600
1210PRV_se0_ag3_m_031347.1511/Just/ through the seventh grade.1348.2114
1211PRV_int_011348.2729Okay.1348.6989
1212PRV_se0_ag3_m_031348.8058Yep.1348.9620
1213PRV_int_011349.1040Okay.1349.5205
1214PRV_se0_ag3_m_031349.6152Mm-hm.1350.1264
1215PRV_int_011350.4767And then uh-1351.1820
1216PRV_se0_ag3_m_031351.2293But every now and then, we had to stop, you know, and1353.4824
1218 1353.6623go back to the /?/1354.7084 
1220 1354.8910catch the farm up and all that kind of stuff. I didn't get- I didn't stay /in the right/ study all the time.1358.8008 
1221PRV_int_011358.9144Mm-hm.1359.3626
1222PRV_se0_ag3_m_031359.7963Along then you had to- had to1361.0554
1224 1361.7966go work the crop and try to get as much education in school cause I ain't got no education now on account of that.1366.8756 
1225PRV_int_011367.0487Mm.1367.3990
1226PRV_se0_ag3_m_031367.5220Sure ain't. It got a /?/ education.1369.0036
1227PRV_int_011369.4959So they would pull you out of school-1371.0153
1229 1371.1526out of school to go work the farm?1373.0034 
1230PRV_se0_ag3_m_031374.1090Well,1374.8048
1232 1375.3397uh,1375.6947 
1234 1375.9172I had enough brothers and sisters on- over top of me1378.5016 
1235PRV_int_011378.6720Mm-hm.1379.0365
1236PRV_se0_ag3_m_031379.4720to keep the r- younger ones in school all the time.1381.9740
1237PRV_int_011382.0828Okay.1382.4804
1238PRV_se0_ag3_m_031382.5372Uh.1382.9254
1239PRV_int_011383.9904Now far- how long did you work on the farm?1386.1232
1240PRV_se0_ag3_m_031388.3858Til I got big enough up until-1390.2933
1242 1391.8723up until uh,1392.7575 
1244 1393.6237they put- pulled me to the Army.1394.8923 
1245PRV_int_011395.9289Okay, how old were you then?1397.1454
1246PRV_se0_ag3_m_031399.0935It's-1400.2627
1248 1400.4331October the fourteenth.1401.7585 
1250 1403.2258On October the fourteenth1404.6675 
1252 1405.5385to December the seventh1406.5846 
1254 1407.4981that's when I became twenty.1408.6558 
1255PRV_int_011409.5646Oh twenty years- you were twenty years old?1411.1598
1256PRV_se0_ag3_m_031411.3634/Yes/, I was twenty years old.1412.2580
1257PRV_int_011412.3242Okay.1412.7976
1258PRV_se0_ag3_m_031412.8307Mm-hm. When I g- when-1413.9383
1260 1414.4164you know, but-1414.7978 
1262 1415.3706but I there for a little before I was twenty, see. They pull me before I got twenty.1418.5846 
1263PRV_int_011418.6603Yeah.1418.9491
1264PRV_se0_ag3_m_031419.0216[But I wasn't /fully/]1419.7443
1265PRV_int_011419.2851[/?/]1419.5171
1266PRV_se0_ag3_m_031420.3928in October.1421.0886
1267PRV_int_011421.3138Uh-huh.1421.6877
1269 1422.4971Okay.1422.8995 
1271 1424.0639So then you served-1425.0390 
1273 1425.5644You were twenty.1426.2839 
1275 1426.4354You went-1426.8424 
1277 1426.9466and you went to the war1427.8534 
1279 1428.1563when you were twenty years old?1429.1977 
1280PRV_se0_ag3_m_031430.0024Well,1430.3384
1282 1430.4994yeah, we were trained all along, you know. We're /??/ trained in Fort Bragg.1433.9575 
1283PRV_int_011434.1800Okay.1434.5823
1284PRV_se0_ag3_m_031434.7196And from Fort Bragg to Fort Huachuca, Arizona.1436.9775
1285PRV_int_011437.1952Okay.1437.6212
1286PRV_se0_ag3_m_031437.8200And then from Fort Huachuca, Arizona back to-1439.8581
1288 1440.0948to uh,1440.4545 
1290 1441.4864uh,1441.9124 
1292 1444.0141Lousiana.1444.7383 
1293PRV_int_011444.9304Okay.1445.3280
1294PRV_se0_ag3_m_031445.4037Back and forward like that.1446.7575
1295PRV_int_011446.8900[Okay.]1447.3113
1296PRV_se0_ag3_m_031447.0841[Uh-huh.]1447.8272
1297PRV_int_011448.4189How long were you in training?1449.5123
1298PRV_se0_ag3_m_031450.5206I stayed in training from October the fourteenth nineteen forty two1454.9869
1300 1455.1905until1455.9431 
1302 1457.3574forty three, forty four. I went over to- over to /??/ in uh,1460.4426 
1304 1461.1384in that Naples, Italy in forty four.1462.8756 
1305PRV_int_011462.9371Okay.1463.3800
1306PRV_se0_ag3_m_031463.7256And uh, stayed over there about1465.1740
1308 1465.3776a year in there about.1466.1065 
1309PRV_int_011466.4946Okay.1466.9207
1310PRV_se0_ag3_m_031467.5123There cause it was as soon as- about seven days after we got over there,1470.3551
1311PRV_int_011470.4687Mm-hm.1470.8237
1312PRV_se0_ag3_m_031470.8427they put us on the line.1471.9172
1313PRV_int_011472.3621Right.1472.6224
1314PRV_se0_ag3_m_031472.6887And I was battling on the line for nine months,1474.9513
1315PRV_int_011475.1576Yeah.1475.4700
1316PRV_se0_ag3_m_031475.3895and that's when they /?/ surrendered.1476.6391
1317PRV_int_011476.8900Uh-huh.1477.3492
1318PRV_se0_ag3_m_031477.4344Understand?1478.0260
1319PRV_int_011478.1444Yeah.1478.4094
1320PRV_se0_ag3_m_031478.3905So they told us then1479.6023
1321 1480.0614that they were gonna ship us to South Pacific.1481.6897
1322PRV_int_011481.9244Mm-hm.1482.3551
1323PRV_se0_ag3_m_031482.5681But they didn't ever get-1483.4202
1325 1483.8746The Japs and things surrendered before we got to South Pacific.1486.7620 
1326PRV_int_011486.9182Okay.1487.3868
1327PRV_se0_ag3_m_031487.7729So that's how1488.2889
1329 1488.4998from there on home.1489.2829 
1330PRV_int_011489.7089Okay.1490.1775
1331PRV_se0_ag3_m_031490.3195Mm-hm.1490.7502
1332PRV_int_011491.1668So then, uh,1491.9762
1334 1492.2081what did you do-1492.9608 
1336 1493.2286d- did you work1494.2084 
1338 1494.4309at the farm when you got home? What ha- what have you worked at?1497.0863 
1340 1497.2615What have you done [since you-]1498.3644 
1341PRV_se0_ag3_m_031497.9194[Right on] back to the farm again.1499.3895
1342PRV_int_011499.3868Yeah?1499.6708
1343PRV_se0_ag3_m_031500.0664Yeah.1500.3551
1344PRV_int_011500.3551Have you done that your whole life or1502.1065
1346 1502.2769do you have a-1502.6272 
1347PRV_se0_ag3_m_031502.5656All e-1502.9869
1348 1503.3893all except the time I come up to where I'm at now.1505.6972
1349PRV_int_011506.1232And then what'd you do?1506.9989
1350PRV_se0_ag3_m_031508.0308Huh?1508.2769
1351PRV_int_011508.4710And then what'd you do? Once you moved into Princeville, where-1510.7478
1353 1510.9892D- Did you [retire or?]1512.3835 
1354PRV_se0_ag3_m_031512.0664[Went-]1512.4214
1355 1512.6959Went to uh-1513.4912
1357 1513.7136Left from there, went to /Gum/ Mill first.1515.4461 
1358PRV_int_011515.7253/Gum/ Mill.1516.1466
1359PRV_se0_ag3_m_031516.3549Yeah.1516.6152
1360PRV_int_011516.6342Okay.1517.0223
1361PRV_se0_ag3_m_031517.1481And from there,1517.8534
1362PRV_int_011518.1043[Uh-huh.]1518.5066
1363PRV_se0_ag3_m_031518.2321[I went to] /??/ Mill.1519.2071
1364PRV_int_011519.2687/??/. Okay.1520.0923
1365PRV_se0_ag3_m_031520.2012[And s-]1520.4662
1366PRV_int_011520.2012[Work] with this guy?1521.1337
1367PRV_se0_ag3_m_031521.3987Back with him.1522.0283
1368PRV_int_011522.1277Okay.1522.5111
1369PRV_se0_ag3_m_031522.4732I was right together /old- nobody-/ you ever worked there- you worked at Gum Mill?1525.3255
1370PRV_se0_ag3_m_021525.4570Yes.1525.8286
1371PRV_se0_ag3_m_031526.1680You did?1526.5609
1373 1527.3987[The- the gum] mill.1528.5963 
1374PRV_se0_ag3_m_021527.4224[Yeah, I /worked/ there awhile.]1528.3644
1375 1529.5078The Gum Mill.1530.1516
1376PRV_se0_ag3_m_031531.4864It was here on the railroad track.1532.5562
1377PRV_se0_ag3_m_021533.3277Uh-uh, no. I never worked-1534.3359
1378PRV_se0_ag3_m_031534.1608You didn't ever work there.1534.9371
1379PRV_se0_ag3_m_021535.0318No.1535.2826
1380PRV_se0_ag3_m_031535.4700Well I worked there about two years and a half.1536.9894
1381PRV_se0_ag3_m_021537.1409/Oh yeah./1537.5574
1382PRV_se0_ag3_m_031537.7515And from there to /??/ Mill.1538.9822
1383PRV_se0_ag3_m_021538.6556/??/ Okay.1539.7916
1384PRV_se0_ag3_m_031539.8247Yeah I worked there twenty five years1541.3678
1386 1542.1137at /??/ Mill.1542.9326 
1387PRV_int_011542.9563Oh, okay.1543.6568
1388PRV_se0_ag3_m_031543.7988And since I retired from there,1545.2567
1390 1546.0046uh, I ain't done no more work.1547.1548 
1391PRV_int_011547.3800Okay.1547.8439
1392PRV_se0_ag3_m_031547.9102Not you know, regular, I just1549.2829
1394 1549.4533do1549.6474 
1396 1549.8320here, there and [everywhere.]1550.8781 
1397PRV_int_011550.7313[Yeah.]1550.9917
1398PRV_se0_ag3_m_031550.9633I- I worked with a boy working1552.2981
1399 1552.6294building cabinets like that /??/. Well I took that after my daddy.1555.1267
1400PRV_int_011555.3302Oh, okay.1555.9550
1401PRV_se0_ag3_m_031555.9030Y- All that kind of thing. [I w-]1557.1905
1402PRV_int_011556.8402[Carpenter], yeah.1557.6212
1403PRV_se0_ag3_m_031557.8247Mm-hm.1558.3028
1404PRV_int_011558.7836Now what'd you do at /??/? What was your job there?1561.1125
1405PRV_se0_ag3_m_031561.1172Oh,1561.5527
1407 1561.8651blending- working in the blending department.1563.7851 
1408PRV_int_011563.9005Okay.1564.3596
1410 1565.2333Okay.1565.6735 
1411PRV_se0_ag3_m_031566.0001Yeah.1566.2983
1412PRV_int_011566.7007And so you- what- you retired from there?1568.4426
1414 1569.3656You- you worked there for twenty five years?1571.2164 
1415PRV_se0_ag3_m_031571.4037Worked there for twenty five years.1572.6675
1416PRV_int_011572.5871Wow.1572.9941
1417PRV_se0_ag3_m_031573.9834I was started w-1574.5798
1419 1574.7550working there nineteen sixty. Worked there til eighty five.1577.3489 
1420PRV_int_011577.5193Okay.1577.9859
1422 1578.5587Okay.1578.9989 
1424 1579.9787So you retired now?1581.1526 
1425PRV_se0_ag3_m_031582.3786<ts>1582.4969
1426PRV_int_011582.9229You retired?1583.6092
1427PRV_se0_ag3_m_031584.0522Now?1584.3457
1428PRV_int_011584.4924Yeah.1584.7859
1429PRV_se0_ag3_m_031584.8379Yes sir.1585.4060
1430PRV_int_011585.3681Yeah.1585.6237
1431PRV_se0_ag3_m_031585.7799I'm retired.1586.5230
1432PRV_int_011586.4899And what types of things do you do now? Do you have a lot of family in town?1589.7249
1433PRV_se0_ag3_m_031589.9812Well I don't do hardly nothing now tell you the truth. [/No better-/]1592.9727
1434PRV_int_011592.3858[<laugh>]1592.9585
1435PRV_se0_ag3_m_031593.5455<laugh>1593.8721
1437 1594.2649<laugh>1594.5395 
1439 1595.1406No, I don't do too much nothing now.1596.8663 
1440PRV_int_011597.0367Take it easy.1597.7184
1441PRV_se0_ag3_m_031598.7644M- and m- Try to.1600.0756
1442PRV_int_011600.1703Yeah, <laugh>1601.0496
1444 1601.5930Do you have a lot of family1602.6959 
1446 1602.9184that still lives in- in Princeville?1604.5372 
1447PRV_se0_ag3_m_031606.0472Uh,1607.0980
1449 1607.2712see I used to.1608.2273 
1450PRV_int_011608.3930Uh-huh.1608.8379
1451PRV_se0_ag3_m_031609.6332The whole family was living there one time there about.1611.6259
1452PRV_int_011611.7291[Yeah.]1612.0397
1453PRV_se0_ag3_m_031611.7537[Cause we] had four /houses/.1612.9466
1454 1613.2380We had one-1613.5599
1456 1613.6593Where I live at now1614.8379 
1458 1615.1314where my- my sister lived at,1616.6224 
1460 1616.7834my brother lived at,1617.8910 
1462 1618.0567and my mother lived right down the line.1619.5788 
1463PRV_int_011619.6925Wow.1620.0711
1464PRV_se0_ag3_m_031620.2321Uh-huh.1620.6723
1466 1621.3965But, uh,1621.9030 
1468 1622.3668since that time,1623.3845 
1470 1625.5220s- some moved or different places, you know, like that.1628.3858 
1471PRV_int_011628.4804Yeah.1628.8497
1472PRV_se0_ag3_m_031628.9396Yeah.1629.3987
1474 1629.7632[There ain't nobody-]1630.3123 
1475PRV_int_011629.7821[Anybody-]1630.1797
1476PRV_se0_ag3_m_031630.4259ain't- ain't nobody there right now.1631.9719
1477PRV_int_011632.2652Uh-huh.1632.6628
1478PRV_se0_ag3_m_031633.4770But me and my sister, you know, at the time, she can- she did- what- she would come back and forth.1638.0333
1479PRV_int_011638.4498Okay.1638.7811
1480PRV_se0_ag3_m_031638.4735[But she] still got the house.1639.4817
1481PRV_int_011639.7799Uh-huh.1640.1775
1482PRV_se0_ag3_m_031640.3905And my-1640.7550
1484 1641.0106the house next to her,1642.0709 
1486 1643.0034that's where my brother was staying at, but he moved- he bought a house over in East Tarboro somewhere and let his daughter k- take the house.1648.5714 
1487PRV_int_011648.6058Okay.1648.9682
1488PRV_se0_ag3_m_031649.2428And that m- house my mother was staying in when she was living,1651.9219
1490 1652.4189/his/ let his son take that house.1654.0661 
1491PRV_int_011654.1466Okay.1654.5821
1492PRV_se0_ag3_m_031655.0014So they all four of 'em is occupied but it ain't by the same people that was there all the time.1659.0059
1493PRV_int_011659.0437Okay.1659.4697
1494PRV_se0_ag3_m_031659.7301Mm-hm.1660.0803
1495PRV_int_011660.4117So do you have any uh,1661.7445
1497 1662.0001um, like,1662.9421 
1499 1663.8320sh-1664.2012 
1501 1664.4236uh, children uh,1665.6449 
1503 1665.8626or1666.1892 
1505 1666.4496[any-]1666.7004 
1506PRV_se0_ag3_m_031666.4827[Do I] have a lot of children?1667.4811
1507PRV_int_011667.4388Mm-hm.1667.7500
1508 1667.9481Do you have any children [or-]1669.0557
1509PRV_se0_ag3_m_031668.8758[I] got1669.1929
1510 1669.7894three living now.1670.5222
1511PRV_int_011670.5798Okay.1670.9964
1512PRV_se0_ag3_m_031671.1573One died.1671.7537
1513PRV_int_011672.1135[/Okay./]1672.4448
1514PRV_se0_ag3_m_031672.1277[I had] four-1672.7146
1515 1672.8992I had1673.2069
1517 1673.3753three boys and a girl.1674.6013 
1518PRV_int_011674.8663Okay.1675.2640
1519PRV_se0_ag3_m_031675.6852But it- it, uh,1676.9159
1521 1678.4476The girl and two boys is living now.1680.8143 
1522PRV_int_011680.9705Okay.1681.4296
1523PRV_se0_ag3_m_031681.8746[One of 'em] died.1682.5893
1524PRV_int_011681.8840[/??/]1682.2343
1525PRV_se0_ag3_m_031682.8733died in eighty six, the day I r- the- the year I retired, he died in eighty six.1686.7527
1526PRV_int_011686.9894Oh wow.1687.6852
1527PRV_se0_ag3_m_031687.6805Mm.1688.0876
1528PRV_int_011688.5372Did it- Do they still live in Princeville or?1690.7951
1529PRV_se0_ag3_m_031691.6972No my- my son now, where I'm going to /??/ work, he stay right down here in Pioneer Court.1695.6307
1530PRV_int_011696.0330Okay.1696.4590
1531PRV_se0_ag3_m_031696.5726[Mm-hm.]1696.9182
1532PRV_int_011696.7004[Pioneer] Court?1697.3726
1533PRV_se0_ag3_m_031697.7635Pioneer Court.1698.3078
1534PRV_int_011698.4309[Okay.]1698.8711
1535PRV_se0_ag3_m_031698.5350[Right down] the street there.1699.3066
1536PRV_int_011699.5196Okay.1699.9408
1537PRV_se0_ag3_m_031700.3100Mm-hm.1700.7408
1538PRV_int_011700.8686And uh,1701.5313
1540 1701.7869so do- that's the only1702.8424 
1542 1703.0649other family you have in Princeville, your- your son?1705.2709 
1544 1705.9077He's- he's still here?1707.2236 
1546 1707.9667D-1708.2602 
1547PRV_se0_ag3_m_031708.5632Uh,1708.9892
1549 1711.1172n- that's what I was telling you about in the houses /that way up/1714.6673 
1550PRV_int_011714.8756Huh.1715.0649
1551PRV_se0_ag3_m_031715.0014uh- that- that my family right on too.1716.7007
1552PRV_int_011716.9326Where now?1717.4628
1554 1718.2580Where is that now?1719.0153 
1555PRV_se0_ag3_m_031720.4815Heck, the young ones, they /?/ working somewhere I reckon.1722.8711
1556PRV_int_011722.9894Oh, okay.1723.5196
1557PRV_se0_ag3_m_031723.5764Mm-hm.1723.9077
1558PRV_int_011723.8793Okay.1724.2674
1559 1725.0958So you- so, some of your kids, they moved to other places?1728.2841
1561 1728.5350To other [cities?]1729.5385 
1562PRV_se0_ag3_m_031729.4391My- Well I got a1730.1160
1563 1730.2722daughter in1731.0201
1565 1731.2473Brooklyn, New York.1732.0330 
1566PRV_int_011732.1939Okay.1732.6152
1567PRV_se0_ag3_m_031732.9256I got a son1733.9149
1569 1734.3551in Poquoson, Virginia,1735.5906 
1570PRV_int_011735.6900Okay.1736.1633
1571PRV_se0_ag3_m_031736.8307and my other s-1737.5313
1573 1738.4732my baby boy,1739.4057 
1575 1739.6025[the baby] of the family- of my family-1741.4154 
1576PRV_int_011739.6214[Uh-huh.]1739.9575
1577 1741.4202Yeah.1741.7752
1578PRV_se0_ag3_m_031742.0544he would- /gonna get ready came to/ work,1743.5123
1580 1743.6259/in a few minute/ he- he work for Sara Lee.1745.6187 
1581PRV_int_011745.8771Okay.1746.3693
1583 1746.8427What's his name?1747.5622 
1584PRV_se0_ag3_m_031747.8840/RD-NAME-2/.1748.3479
1585PRV_int_011748.7266/RD-NAME-2/?1749.1431
1586PRV_se0_ag3_m_031749.4461/RD-NAME-2/1749.9857
1588 1750.2933[/RD-NAME-3/.]1751.3536 
1589PRV_int_011750.9797[Okay.]1751.4104
1590 1751.6972Okay.1752.1705
1592 1753.4060That's /??/.1754.1775 
1594 1754.8970So what is life like now in Princeville?1757.0696 
1595PRV_se0_ag3_m_031757.9007What it's like now?1758.5823
1596PRV_int_011758.7149Yeah.1759.0557
1598 1760.7360Compared to how it used to be.1761.9762 
1600 1762.1466What's it like now?1762.9087 
1602 1763.8061Is it changed?1764.5587 
1603PRV_se0_ag3_m_031765.5906Uh,1766.0544
1605 1766.2627<laugh>1766.4757 
1607 1767.6875well,1768.3075 
1609 1773.0201I can't hardly say cause I ain't,1774.4638 
1611 1775.3442you know,1775.7500 
1613 1778.3053I still live1779.3845 
1615 1779.6117as far as that concern, but1780.7288 
1616PRV_int_011780.8519Uh-huh.1781.1927
1617PRV_se0_ag3_m_031782.4924it's a little on the tight side now cause the government took their-1784.9207
1619 1785.2378president and all them crowd done took all /this/ money away from 'em.1788.0096 
1620PRV_int_011788.1847Uh-huh.1788.7433
1621PRV_se0_ag3_m_031789.3823They had to go out /?/ Tokyo to Lyn.1790.7834
1622PRV_se0_ag3_m_021791.5786Not yet.1792.1419
1623PRV_int_011792.3075[<laugh>]1793.1406
1624PRV_se0_ag3_m_031792.9466[Huh?]1793.1406
1625PRV_se0_ag3_m_021793.6120Not yet.1794.2084
1626PRV_se0_ag3_m_031794.3504They done took they building money from you?1795.7042
1627PRV_se0_ag3_m_021795.8793Mm-hm.1796.2769
1628PRV_se0_ag3_m_031797.9431Mm.1798.2555
1630 1800.1327See I was getting a veteran's check.1801.4628 
1631PRV_se0_ag3_m_021802.0923Oh yeah?1802.5893
1632PRV_se0_ag3_m_031802.7550Yeah.1803.0532
1634 1803.2993A veteran check now.1804.2602 
1635PRV_se0_ag3_m_021804.4854Uh-huh.1804.8215
1636PRV_se0_ag3_m_031805.8345And that veteran check1807.2592
1638 1807.4296mean1808.0781 
1640 1808.2343that if I had to go to the doctor, hospital, anything like that,1811.3063 
1642 1812.2226I keep the bill that I had to pay,1813.7704 
1643PRV_se0_ag3_m_021814.1680/Mkay./1814.5088
1644PRV_se0_ag3_m_031814.5325and they would refund it back to me.1815.9478
1645PRV_se0_ag3_m_021816.4401Mm.1816.8424
1646PRV_se0_ag3_m_031816.7383But they cut that out.1817.5619
1647PRV_se0_ag3_m_021818.0711Oh yeah?1818.5303
1648PRV_se0_ag3_m_031818.6770Yes sir, sure did.1819.8746
1649PRV_int_011821.1526Huh.1821.3656
1650PRV_se0_ag3_m_031821.2946The only thing I get now is, uh,1822.6862
1651 1824.4829uh, retirement1825.7941
1653 1827.9478and social security.1828.6957 
1654PRV_int_011830.2699Huh.1830.6391
1655PRV_se0_ag3_m_031830.8001They had cut my retirement out,1832.1870
1657 1832.4094uh, my so- my social security down1834.6342 
1659 1835.1197but I- we raised so much /sand/,1836.6581 
1661 1837.8935and went on there to you know- di- went different /places/.1840.2839 
1663 1840.5253They finally put it back in there like they ought to.1842.4025 
1664PRV_se0_ag3_m_021842.8190Mm.1843.2166
1665PRV_se0_ag3_m_031843.4202Maybe they had a mistake. Maybe I- Sure was a mistake. You oughta know better than that.1846.7241
1666PRV_se0_ag3_m_021846.9892<laugh>1847.5666
1667PRV_int_011847.5572[<laugh>]1848.4214
1668PRV_se0_ag3_m_031848.1043[Shoot.]1848.4167
1669PRV_se0_ag3_m_021849.1740But the /?/ taking all they /signs/ all the time.1851.9573
1670PRV_se0_ag3_m_031852.0803Yes sir. You don't- you don't talk up, they gonna1854.5871
1672 1854.9705uh, get somebody that knows more about it than you do, you in trouble cause they ain't gonna give you nothing if they can help it.1859.6262 
1673PRV_int_011860.1185Mm-hm.1860.4025
1674PRV_se0_ag3_m_031860.8711That just the way they do things too.1862.2674
1675PRV_se0_ag3_m_021862.5136/Now I ain't going into this now yet./1864.3407
1676PRV_int_011864.7620Mm.1864.9892
1677PRV_se0_ag3_m_031864.9655Mm.1865.4057
1678PRV_int_011866.2226Right.1866.5492
1679PRV_se0_ag3_m_031867.8604Yep.1868.1822
1680PRV_int_011869.7727So you guys known each other a long time. You used to work on the fire-1873.1977
1682 1873.3350fire department together.1874.5183 
1683PRV_se0_ag3_m_031875.0295How long did we work that fire department, /RD-NAME-1/, do you know?1877.5193
1684PRV_se0_ag3_m_021877.7019How long you stay on there?1878.8285
1685PRV_se0_ag3_m_031879.0699Yeah.1879.3586
1686PRV_se0_ag3_m_021880.4520I don't even know to tell you the truth. I know I been here about thirty four years.1884.0711
1687PRV_se0_ag3_m_031884.3977Oh yeah?1884.8521
1689 1885.0509I know you been in it all the while.1886.3337 
1690PRV_se0_ag3_m_021886.4236Yeah.1886.7976
1691PRV_se0_ag3_m_031886.9633Uh,1887.3419
1693 1888.3596eh.1888.8992 
1694PRV_int_011890.1279So you guys still close?1891.4722
1695PRV_se0_ag3_m_031891.8556Say what?1892.2816
1696PRV_int_011892.2864You guys are still close? Good friends?1894.1466
1697PRV_se0_ag3_m_021894.4590Oh yeah.1894.8898
1698PRV_se0_ag3_m_031894.8093Yeah, uh, ain't /???/1896.2510
1699 1896.4593/unintelligible/ when I worked at /??/ Mill, he was my-1898.6650
1701 1899.4603What was it?1900.0709 
1703 1900.3928Lead man, [supervisor, whatever you call it.]1902.2510 
1704PRV_se0_ag3_m_021901.0014[/Inaudible./] Yeah.1902.6249
1705PRV_se0_ag3_m_031902.9657Yeah.1903.3113
1706PRV_int_011903.3918What?1903.6332
1707PRV_se0_ag3_m_031903.7799We got along fine. Ain't never had no problem.1905.5549
1708PRV_int_011905.8910<laugh>1906.4827
1709PRV_se0_ag3_m_031906.5848[Sure did.]1907.1576
1710PRV_int_011906.6626[Yeah.]1906.9892
1711 1907.6262You're a [good guy.]1908.3409
1712PRV_se0_ag3_m_021907.8108[/Yeah./]1908.1611
1713 1908.6155Yeah.1909.1598
1714PRV_int_011909.0935He's a good guy.1909.8935
1715PRV_se0_ag3_m_031910.2864Mm.1910.8497
1716PRV_int_011910.8165So what do you got- what do you got1912.3644
1717 1912.6815planned for today? You- you on your way somewhere?1915.0415
1718PRV_se0_ag3_m_031915.9077What? What-1916.3242
1720 1916.4520today?1916.8071 
1721PRV_int_011916.9727Yeah.1917.2425
1722PRV_se0_ag3_m_031917.6259N- no, sh- after I get my son to work, I won't-1919.9717
1724 1920.1421ain't gonna do nothing no-1921.2829 
1725PRV_int_011921.6568[Okay.]1922.1633
1726PRV_se0_ag3_m_031921.9266[from then] on out I reckon.1923.3656
1727PRV_int_011923.5123Okay.1924.0235
1728PRV_se0_ag3_m_031924.1892Mm.1924.5774
1729PRV_int_011924.9966Alright.1925.4794
1730PRV_se0_ag3_m_031925.3990Might do some little1926.1705
1731 1926.6391piddling work around the house or something like that.1928.4236
1732PRV_int_011928.6366Yeah.1928.9491
1733PRV_se0_ag3_m_031929.0201Yeah.1929.3798
1734PRV_int_011929.5029Yeah.1929.8673
1736 1931.1927Great.1931.4713 
1737PRV_se0_ag3_m_031931.6072Mm-hm.1932.2273
1738PRV_int_011932.4167Have you heard about the museum that they're1934.3526
1740 1934.6698gonna make? At the old town hall, they gonna make a museum out of old town hall?1938.7953 
1742 1939.8320Did you [hear about that?]1940.6556 
1743PRV_se0_ag3_m_031940.1018[Which one?]1940.5751
1744PRV_se0_ag3_m_021940.7502Okay.1941.1053
1745PRV_int_011941.1431The old town hall?1942.3549
1747 1943.5410The um- the one [out-]1944.6959 
1748PRV_se0_ag3_m_031944.5208[Over] this way?1945.2119
1749PRV_int_011945.3018Yeah yeah yeah.1945.8130
1751 1945.9124Old town hall?1946.6508 
1753 1946.7929Right there?1947.2709 
1755 1947.6922They gonna make a museum out of it?1949.0791 
1756PRV_se0_ag3_m_031949.4226No I didn't know nothing about [that.]1950.4792
1757PRV_int_011950.2226[Yeah] yeah.1950.8569
1758 1951.2640They're supposed to- Sometime next year they're supposed to make a uh, museum.1954.7667
1759PRV_se0_ag3_m_031955.3347Oh.1955.6801
1760PRV_int_011955.6309Yeah.1955.9954
1761 1957.3492Cause that's a historical building.1958.8781
1762PRV_se0_ag3_m_031959.0011Mm-hm.1959.3798
1764 1959.5076Well where you-1960.0661 
1766 1960.3549h- where you located?1961.4179 
1767PRV_int_011961.7966I'm- I work uh- I'm out of NC State,1964.2485
1769 1964.7739North Carolina State University?1966.2223 
1770PRV_se0_ag3_m_031966.2507Uh-huh.1966.6152
1771PRV_int_011966.9513And uh, so I'm in Raleigh right now.1968.4735
1772PRV_se0_ag3_m_031968.6675You're in Raleigh?1969.1740
1773PRV_int_011969.2024Yeah.1969.5906
1774PRV_se0_ag3_m_031969.9219[Oh.]1970.4142
1775PRV_int_011969.9219[Yeah.]1970.4378
1776 1970.8497Yeah.1971.0911
1778 1971.4413Originally I'm from Detroit.1972.7430 
1779PRV_se0_ag3_m_031973.4747Oh yeah?1973.9197
1780PRV_int_011973.9386Yes that's where I was- that's where I grew up.1975.3728
1781PRV_se0_ag3_m_031975.6284Ah, kay.1976.3337
1782PRV_int_011976.3526That was when you said Joe Louis, I said I know a little bit about him.1978.8377
1783PRV_se0_ag3_m_031979.0223You do?1979.4436
1784PRV_int_011979.8108I didn't know him. I j- But I know the history of [Joe-]1982.2722
1785PRV_se0_ag3_m_031982.0497[Oh] you [know the] history of it.1983.1005
1786PRV_int_011982.4331[/?/]1982.6745
1787 1983.1242of cause being from [Detroit.]1984.5632
1788PRV_se0_ag3_m_031984.2413[Well I] mean, he was at- he was sitting right side of me just like I see you right now.1987.5290
1789PRV_int_011987.7562Yeah.1988.1633
1790PRV_se0_ag3_m_031988.1822Yes sir. Me and him, /?/ talked together for1990.0283
1792 1990.6105I reckon about three or four months, that long.1992.3173 
1794 1992.8758The whole-1993.2071 
1796 1993.3444longer than that.1993.9834 
1797PRV_int_011994.4520So you served with him?1995.2946
1798PRV_se0_ag3_m_031995.8673Uh, we was in the Service.1996.8093
1799PRV_int_011997.0582You- That's how you knew [Joe Louis?]1998.5442
1800PRV_se0_ag3_m_031998.1611[Yes sir.] /There-/ I /knowed/ him before that, but I just- I just- /only then/ I got acquainted, where I could sit down and talk with him.2002.5963
1801PRV_int_012002.8235[Yeah.]2003.0460
1802PRV_se0_ag3_m_032002.9324[Him] and old Sugar Ray Robinson.2004.2131
1803PRV_int_012004.4356Oh really?2004.9989
1804PRV_se0_ag3_m_032005.1219Both of them.2005.6474
1805PRV_int_012005.8556How did you know them?2006.7989
1806PRV_se0_ag3_m_032007.6733How did I know 'em?2008.3691
1807PRV_int_012008.3576Yeah.2008.6558
1808PRV_se0_ag3_m_032008.7032Well long time ago when he would fight, you know, we would always2011.5290
1810 2011.9361l- watch that.2012.6698 
1811PRV_int_012013.1857Uh-huh.2013.5928
1812PRV_se0_ag3_m_032013.8673You know, when we were fighting-2014.7430
1814 2015.1102/your/ different places.2015.9954 
1815PRV_int_012016.2084Yeah.2016.5208
1816PRV_se0_ag3_m_032016.6202Well,2017.0557
1818 2017.3208well then, when, uh, he coming2018.9443 
1820 2019.1337through the Army where I was at,2020.2176 
1821PRV_int_012020.3738Mm.2020.6046
1822PRV_se0_ag3_m_032020.5395Quite naturally I'm gonna know him.2021.5193
1823PRV_int_012021.6830Okay.2022.1800
1824PRV_se0_ag3_m_032022.5161Yes sir.2023.0888
1826 2023.2403[I /knowed/] him.2023.8759 
1827PRV_int_012023.3444[/?/]2023.6426
1828PRV_se0_ag3_m_032024.0213When I got acquainted with him, that's soon as I can see him too.2026.3970
1829PRV_int_012026.3975Yeah.2026.7478
1830PRV_se0_ag3_m_032027.1860Sure did.2027.7824
1831PRV_int_012027.9575Nice.2028.4356
1832PRV_se0_ag3_m_032029.0225I always liked2029.9692
1834 2031.1100to talk with somebody or2032.6768 
1836 2032.9418know somebody that know more than I do.2034.6675 
1837PRV_int_012034.8569Yeah.2035.0793
1839 2035.9976That's a good [/?/.]2036.7060 
1840PRV_se0_ag3_m_032036.4378[And] uh,2037.0011
1841 2038.0709he was telling m- that job, that's how I learned how to2040.0522
1843 2040.2226w-2040.4072 
1845 2040.5823h- how to do2041.3634 
1847 2041.5290that kind of stuff I was talking about,2042.8591 
1848PRV_int_012042.9633[Mm-hm.]2043.3419
1849PRV_se0_ag3_m_032043.0532[through and] by him.2043.7963
1850PRV_int_012044.0425Okay.2044.4401
1852 2045.7493He taught you how to fight?2046.7859 
1853PRV_se0_ag3_m_032047.0746Yeah.2047.3208
1854PRV_int_012047.2734Some things-2047.9456
1855 2048.3290Uh-huh.2048.6224
1856PRV_se0_ag3_m_032049.5455I seen him fight natural.2050.9182
1857PRV_int_012051.1481Yeah.2051.4416
1858PRV_se0_ag3_m_032051.5126Yes I sure have.2052.5019
1859PRV_int_012052.7007Mm.2053.0320
1861 2053.6190Where'd you see him fight at?2054.6508 
1862PRV_se0_ag3_m_032055.7253Out there on the post.2056.6937
1864 2057.3516Out there where we were stationed.2058.3835 
1865PRV_int_012058.5776Okay.2059.0367
1866PRV_se0_ag3_m_032059.1030Mm-hm.2059.5669
1868 2060.6934<laugh>2060.9680 
1869PRV_int_012060.9680<laugh>2061.4934
1870PRV_se0_ag3_m_032061.7253Let me tell you this, and then I got to go.2063.1347
1871PRV_int_012063.1339Okay, yeah.2063.8108
1872PRV_se0_ag3_m_032064.3457Well, um,2064.8095
1874 2066.1728the guy who he was fighting,2067.3609 
1875PRV_int_012067.6591Uh-huh.2067.9999
1876PRV_se0_ag3_m_032068.6578the man told him, said, now look,2069.9907
1878 2071.2450cause you gonna have to stay out his way.2072.5988 
1879PRV_int_012072.8781Uh-huh.2073.1479
1880PRV_se0_ag3_m_032073.1005Everything- I don't worry about that. He was hard headed. You know how some people just know- think they know so much.2077.3492
1881PRV_int_012077.5006Uh-huh.2077.8225
1882PRV_se0_ag3_m_032078.8449So we ask Joe, say,2079.7679
1884 2079.9005Joe say- /well ain't-/. Joe /???/, but he wasn't a bragging man.2082.7953 
1885PRV_int_012082.9231Right.2083.2640
1886PRV_se0_ag3_m_032083.5622He won't brag in a bit.2084.6224
1887PRV_int_012084.7218Uh-huh.2085.0674
1888PRV_se0_ag3_m_032085.4366He said, do you think you can put him out?2086.7052
1890 2087.2049Said, I ain't worried about it, said you bring him the ring.2088.7480 
1891PRV_int_012089.1409Uh-huh.2089.5290
1892PRV_se0_ag3_m_032090.4804He was a great big guy. He was- Joe Louis weighed2092.3928
1894 2092.5016two oh two, I'll never forget it.2094.0522 
1895PRV_int_012094.1563Okay.2094.5208
1896PRV_se0_ag3_m_032095.0651And uh, I think that guy weighed about two2097.3703
1898 2098.4117twenty five or two thirty, something like- he was bigger than Joe.2100.6060 
1899PRV_int_012100.7149Yeah, wow.2101.2403
1900PRV_se0_ag3_m_032101.6190But anyway,2102.1538
1902 2103.0958<laugh>2103.5218 
1904 2105.3158when they w- went in the ring,2106.5397 
1906 2106.9373they rang the bell, ting ting.2108.4047 
1907PRV_int_012108.6224Uh-huh.2108.9396
1908PRV_se0_ag3_m_032109.7490He done kind of like old Clay, I know you've seen him.2111.8061
1909PRV_int_012111.8250Yeah.2112.0664
1910PRV_se0_ag3_m_032112.1989Got him go back on the rope.2113.1693
1911PRV_int_012113.3397Uh-huh.2113.8888
1912PRV_se0_ag3_m_032114.2846And Joe Louis hit him a l-2115.5266
1914 2115.8721cross right2116.7430 
1915PRV_int_012117.3374Yeah.2117.6451
1916PRV_se0_ag3_m_032118.0475and a left hook to the jaw and turn around and come right on out the ring. Man, where you going? He said, I'm going to my dressing room.2122.6450
1917PRV_int_012122.7194<laugh>2123.5714
1918PRV_se0_ag3_m_032123.7445Say, what-2124.1232
1920 2124.2605you- you know he might come back. He said, he ain't coming back.2126.3952 
1921PRV_int_012126.5562Uh.2127.0153
1922PRV_se0_ag3_m_032127.0153How you know? Said, I know what I put him down with.2128.9466
1923PRV_int_012128.9892Mm. <laugh>2130.2037
1924PRV_se0_ag3_m_032130.2368Said /what you put him down with/ Joe, a cross right2132.4284
1926 2132.7076and a left hook to the jaw, [and that] took care of it.2135.0412 
1927PRV_int_012134.2129[Ha.]2134.4590
1928 2135.1386[<laugh>]2135.8676
1929PRV_se0_ag3_m_022135.6404[<laugh>]2136.5823
1930PRV_se0_ag3_m_032136.0948[That's right.] And he hit him /unintelligible/2138.0639
1931 2138.2248Go /?/ hit the devil.2139.2851
1932PRV_int_012139.4461[<laugh>]2140.9087
1933PRV_se0_ag3_m_032140.0567[Yes sir.]2140.5584
1935 2140.7904<laugh> [Well] I enjoyed [talking to you but I-]2143.5527 
1936PRV_int_012141.8960[<laugh>]2142.3977
1938 2142.9137[/inaudible/]2143.9266 
1939PRV_se0_ag3_m_032143.7231I know I got to down- He got to be at work at uh,2145.6307
1940 2146.1608[a- in a li-]2146.6815
1941PRV_int_012146.1750[Well I appreciate] your time. Tell me your uh, full name one more time.2149.2563
1942PRV_se0_ag3_m_032149.5953[My name?]2150.0118
1943PRV_int_012149.6284[Your]2149.9834
1944 2150.1018name?2150.4426
1946 2150.5609Yeah.2150.8591 
1947PRV_se0_ag3_m_032151.0106/RD-NAME-2/2151.7585
1949 2152.4780/RD-NAME-2/2153.1832 
1951 2153.9907/RD-NAME-2/.2154.6060 
1952PRV_int_012154.8663/RD-NAME-2/, how do you spell that?2156.0544
1953PRV_se0_ag3_m_032156.1964/RD-NAME-6/.2157.5218
1954PRV_int_012157.6733Okay.2158.1040
1956 2158.1987Thank you very much for your time, [sir, I] enjoyed it [a lot.]2160.7906 
1957PRV_se0_ag3_m_032159.5410[Yes sir.]2160.0427
1959 2160.3078[I enjoyed] talking [to you. I wish I had time to stay] here /??/.2162.8733 
1960PRV_int_012161.0415[I enjoyed /???/.]2162.2958
1962 2162.7929Okay, well we'll be by- we'll be in town2165.0081 
1963PRV_se0_ag3_m_022165.3232[/inaudible/.]2165.8392
1964PRV_int_012165.3394[/unintelligible/.]2165.7824
1965PRV_se0_ag3_m_032165.8818Let me know, and um, I- I'll be glad to talk to you.2168.3112
1966PRV_int_012168.2911Okay great. Thank you /??/ so much.2170.5537
1967PRV_se0_ag3_m_032170.4732Yes sir.2171.0128
1968PRV_int_012170.9560Alright.2171.4436
1969PRV_se0_ag3_m_032171.8534Somebody need to know.2172.8190
1970PRV_int_012173.1125[That's right.]2173.6095
1971PRV_se0_ag3_m_022173.3870[<laugh>]2173.9943
1972PRV_se0_ag3_m_032173.9456Know what they called us?2174.8591
1973PRV_int_012175.4129What?2175.7017
1974PRV_se0_ag3_m_032175.8153Know what they called us in the Army?2177.0838
1975PRV_int_012177.4321What's that?2177.8203
1976PRV_se0_ag3_m_032178.0001No Tail2178.9042
1978 2179.0888/Bail/.2179.4580 
1979PRV_int_012179.7846No Tail /Bails/.2180.8213
1980PRV_se0_ag3_m_032180.7976Yeah, cause we were [black, you know.] [/You look for the tails/.]2183.2921
1981PRV_se0_ag3_m_022181.4555[<laugh>]2182.3217
1982PRV_int_012182.1750[Really?]2182.6105
1983PRV_se0_ag3_m_022182.8850[No] tails. [<laugh>]2184.2179
1984PRV_int_012183.9717[Wow.]2184.3173
1985PRV_se0_ag3_m_032184.4261That's- I- Story like that- that was something.2186.5467
1987 2186.8686But God knows I didn't care, boy I'd knock a fool out of anybody come up to me, and I /?/.2190.6912 
1989 2190.9137[/unintelligible/] there he go again [a million dollars] /I know how that gonna be with no ?/.2194.8519 
1990PRV_int_012190.9231[Well you did it.]2191.6237
1992 2192.5088[Yeah.]2193.0059 
1993PRV_se0_ag3_m_022195.0034[<laugh>]2195.9291
1994PRV_int_012195.3232[That's right.]2195.9575
1995 2196.4735Well you did an important job.2197.7704
1996PRV_se0_ag3_m_032197.7657Take care, man.2198.3479
1997PRV_se0_ag3_m_022198.3526Alright. [/inaudible/]2200.3786
1998PRV_int_012198.8828[Alright.]2199.2709
2000 2200.0709[Alright], nice [meeting you.]2201.1264 
2001PRV_se0_ag3_m_032200.6815[Yes, sir.]2201.1548
2002PRV_int_012201.2333Okay, take care.2202.2037
2003PRV_se0_ag3_m_022202.1895[/??/]2202.6344
2004PRV_int_012202.3883[Take] care.2202.8947
2005PRV_se0_ag3_m_032202.8095/unintelligible/2203.6426
2006PRV_int_012203.6284[Alright.]2204.1018
2007PRV_se0_ag3_m_022203.8272[/unintelligible/]2204.6792
2008PRV_int_012204.3053[Yes indeed.] I'm glad you stopped by.2206.0141