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1 | ROC_int_01 | 0.3819 | So yeah, I just, | 1.6986 |
3 | | 1.8245 | uh, tell people, | 3.1202 |
5 | | 3.3167 | um, | 3.9181 |
7 | | 4.1111 | pretty much that | 5.0937 |
9 | | 5.4998 | the questions are open ended. | 7.3713 |
11 | | 7.5660 | Feel free to respond, you know, how you would like and [um], | 11.1737 |
12 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 10.9287 | [Okay.] | 11.3622 |
13 | ROC_int_01 | 11.4978 | tell stories or | 12.7444 |
15 | | 12.9539 | there's no right or [wrong answer, it's just- <laugh>] | 15.6476 |
16 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 13.6763 | [Well, you got the right one, I like to run my mouth. <laugh>] | 16.6204 |
17 | ROC_int_01 | 16.5225 | [Yeah] it's just | 17.5665 |
18 | | 17.8881 | [whatever your experiences] were, | 19.9855 |
19 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 18.2817 | [/Sorry my phone/.] | 19.2055 |
20 | ROC_int_01 | 20.1524 | you know, | 20.6243 |
22 | | 21.0787 | uh, I'm interested in. | 22.4537 |
23 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 22.8286 | [Good /?/.] | 23.6429 |
24 | ROC_int_01 | 23.1774 | [If you see] me look down, it's just to make sure that this is still recording. | 27.1412 |
25 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 27.2864 | Okay. | 27.6882 |
26 | ROC_int_01 | 27.7166 | But you can still keep talking, like you don't have to | 30.0092 |
27 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 30.1550 | [Okay.] | 30.4839 |
28 | ROC_int_01 | 30.2222 | [pause] or anything. | 31.2140 |
29 | | 31.7422 | Um, | 32.4179 |
31 | | 32.8780 | let's see, | 33.5641 |
33 | | 33.8990 | and then the last thing I always ask at the beginning is, if you consent | 37.9808 |
35 | | 38.1226 | for, uh, doing this interview. | 39.6221 |
36 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 39.7518 | I do, [I do, yes.] | 41.7258 |
37 | ROC_int_01 | 40.6054 | [Okay], | 40.9904 |
39 | | 41.3383 | [great.] | 41.8310 |
40 | | 42.1320 | Gotta get that verbal | 43.0669 |
42 | | 43.4402 | consent, [that's essential.] | 44.7939 |
43 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 43.9683 | [<laugh>] | 44.9161 |
44 | ROC_int_01 | 44.9216 | <laugh> | 45.4703 |
46 | | 45.9533 | Okay, great, so, | 47.4063 |
48 | | 47.6631 | I usually like to start off the conversation with, um, | 51.2793 |
50 | | 51.9772 | <ts> | 52.0569 |
52 | | 52.3155 | asking where you are from in the city of Rochester. Where did you grow up? | 56.6160 |
53 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 56.8399 | <ts> I actually grew up right down the street, um, born and raised. I grew up, um, in the eleventh ward on /RD-ADDRESS-3/ Street, | 63.4301 |
55 | | 64.0150 | um, off the /RD-NAME-2/ in- | 65.6676 |
57 | | 65.9512 | in what people would consider the hood. | 67.9980 |
59 | | 68.0935 | But my street is very family oriented, | 70.8911 |
61 | | 71.0564 | quiet street. | 71.8569 |
63 | | 72.2052 | There's a church on my street, so, you know, there's- | 74.5981 |
65 | | 75.1513 | S- everybody that has been on my street, has been there literally, since I've been there, with g- exception of maybe, two or three houses, | 81.4964 |
66 | ROC_int_01 | 81.5821 | Mm-hm. | 82.1353 |
67 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 82.1487 | so, | 82.6335 |
69 | | 82.7775 | yeah. | 83.2219 |
70 | ROC_int_01 | 83.3023 | So how long, um, have you lived over there, or do your parents still live there? | 86.8008 |
71 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 85.2260 | <ts> | 85.2794 |
73 | | 86.7640 | All my life yes. Including me, I'm still there, I'm not going anywhere, | 90.3437 |
74 | | 90.5411 | <laugh> like I'm'a milk this one out, I'm the baby [<laugh>] | 94.3404 |
75 | ROC_int_01 | 93.8960 | [Yup], | 94.1300 |
76 | | 94.4799 | me too. | 94.8593 |
77 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 94.8687 | Right, right, I'm like, mm, /?/ where I'm going, y'all need me here, so. | 97.9368 |
79 | | 98.1952 | No yup, um, | 99.1523 |
81 | | 99.2972 | twenty-six years I've been there, and | 101.3340 |
83 | | 101.8038 | my dad has been there since eighty something, eighty-seven, something like that. So he's been there | 108.3235 |
85 | | 108.9776 | almost thirty years, if not more | 111.1048 |
87 | | 111.2409 | at this point, yeah. | 112.2814 |
89 | | 112.4262 | Wow, | 112.8433 |
91 | | 112.9531 | that's crazy | 113.6423 |
93 | | 114.0594 | to think about that. <laugh> | 115.6182 |
94 | ROC_int_01 | 115.6264 | Yeah, so you described the neighborhood a little bit, uh, but can you elaborate maybe say, | 120.7790 |
96 | | 121.1917 | uh, the demographics and, | 123.2112 |
97 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 123.2302 | <ts> | 123.3547 |
99 | | 123.7798 | Um, definitely African American primarily, | 127.0819 |
101 | | 127.4359 | um, | 127.9012 |
103 | | 128.0247 | <laugh> there is a more- | 129.4998 |
105 | | 129.9683 | I'm not sure, but over the years, I've kind of | 132.6902 |
107 | | 133.0358 | subconsciously labeled them as Mormon. I don't know if they're Mormon, but they kind of behave like Mormons. At the end of my street there's a family, | 141.0780 |
109 | | 141.5215 | um, | 142.1668 |
111 | | 142.4961 | of | 142.9351 |
113 | | 143.4224 | white people, | 144.1863 |
115 | | 144.7985 | and you kind of have seen the | 147.1703 |
117 | | 147.4477 | family evolve over the years, but they're very | 150.4932 |
119 | | 150.9498 | secluded, keep to themselves. They look like they | 153.4688 |
121 | | 153.6258 | make their own clothes, and | 155.0712 |
123 | | 155.4499 | I've never- I've only seen them drive a few times, but | 158.3024 |
125 | | 158.4219 | usually they walk everywhere. | 160.0401 |
127 | | 160.6109 | So /um/, (whispered) | 161.3848 |
129 | | 161.6733 | other than that, it's mostly, um, African Americans. | 164.3949 |
131 | | 164.9254 | There's a few houses that are rented, so | 167.6178 |
133 | | 167.7583 | I've seen a few Asian people move in and out. | 170.3353 |
135 | | 170.7172 | Um, | 171.2572 |
137 | | 172.1555 | <ts> | 172.2356 |
139 | | 172.5244 | and | 173.2619 |
141 | | 173.5824 | one- | 174.0521 |
143 | | 174.1839 | Um, actually I take that back. Two of my neighbors | 176.6599 |
145 | | 176.7808 | and one of my best friends and my first best friends | 179.0988 |
146 | ROC_int_01 | 179.0988 | Mm-hm. | 179.5003 |
147 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 179.4956 | that lived next door to me, she was white too. | 181.5106 |
148 | | 181.6387 | So my first best friend was actually a white girl. [<laugh>] | 184.2995 |
149 | ROC_int_01 | 183.8457 | [Mm-hm.] | 184.3156 |
150 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 184.8063 | Um, and then my neighbor on my other side, she's white also. So, | 188.2564 |
152 | | 188.4313 | there's a mix but mostly African American, | 191.1268 |
153 | ROC_int_01 | 191.1906 | [Okay] cool. | 192.1669 |
154 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 191.3443 | [yeah.] | 191.6384 |
155 | ROC_int_01 | 192.4918 | And so, um, you said it was family oriented, so you played outside a lot with the kids on the street and- | 198.1905 |
156 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 196.7619 | <ts> | 196.8261 |
157 | | 198.2945 | Funny thing is, my mom did not- | 200.7790 |
159 | | 201.1972 | um, | 201.8693 |
161 | | 202.4482 | she didn't play that. [<laugh>] | 203.8879 |
162 | ROC_int_01 | 203.6246 | [Mm-hm.] | 204.1586 |
163 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 204.2144 | So she w- she would let me go out there with, um, | 207.3323 |
165 | | 207.5451 | kids across the street. | 208.4541 |
167 | | 208.7615 | My best friend next door, she'd let me go next door. | 211.4508 |
169 | | 211.6446 | Her name was /RD-NAME-4/. | 212.9825 |
171 | | 213.3371 | And when /RD-NAME-4/ moved, I was about six or seven. My mom kind of | 217.4951 |
173 | | 217.9519 | said, okay I don't know if I really like the other neighbors, so, | 221.3470 |
175 | | 221.9551 | you know, we gonna keep you in front of our house in the backyard where I can see you. | 225.9400 |
177 | | 226.3395 | Um, | 226.7961 |
179 | | 227.0025 | I did play across the street with the kids. There weren't a ton of kids my age. Actually do you- you remember /RD-NAME-4/, | 233.7717 |
180 | ROC_int_01 | 233.8001 | [Yeah.] | 234.2273 |
181 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 233.9406 | [yeah.] | 234.2190 |
182 | | 234.4731 | He lives on my street too, so, um, I grew up playing with him too. | 238.3251 |
184 | | 238.5555 | But he's a boy, so of course, you know, mom's like, okay as far as I can see you with that one. | 242.8899 |
185 | ROC_int_01 | 242.8663 | Yeah. | 243.4288 |
186 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 243.4773 | Um, | 244.0721 |
188 | | 244.2506 | <ts> so I played with him, and then there were another set of kids across the street. | 247.9586 |
190 | | 248.2325 | But they got a dog, um, | 249.8852 |
192 | | 250.1331 | when I was about eight, | 251.5938 |
194 | | 251.7688 | maybe. My mom didn't- like, it was a pitbull so my mom was like, | 254.8153 |
196 | | 255.0216 | no you can't go over there anymore, so. | 256.8006 |
198 | | 257.0559 | I spent a lot of time, um, actually | 259.2453 |
200 | | 259.9785 | <ts> with my aunt, um, who lived on /RD-ADDRESS-2/, cause my mom worked evenings and my dad worked a trick shift, so he was working days and nights. | 267.0412 |
202 | | 267.3804 | So I spent a lot of time over there, | 269.1242 |
204 | | 269.4086 | ton of kids over there though, | 270.7153 |
206 | | 271.0225 | /that I/ | 271.3733 |
208 | | 271.5369 | used to play with, so | 272.7919 |
210 | | 272.9830 | yeah. | 273.2628 |
212 | | 273.3934 | <laugh> | 273.6405 |
213 | ROC_int_01 | 273.7104 | Okay, cool, and, um, did you play at any, I guess rec centers, [maybe], occasionally, [or?] | 279.7483 |
214 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 278.2139 | [<ts>] | 278.3037 |
216 | | 279.4434 | [No, I was] really family oriented. My mom, um, | 283.5912 |
217 | ROC_int_01 | 280.1029 | [No, okay.] | 280.7427 |
218 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 284.5230 | didn't, <exhale> like | 286.0202 |
220 | | 286.2249 | me being outside of | 287.6535 |
222 | | 287.7859 | the family so if anybody watched me, it was family. | 290.9825 |
224 | | 291.3107 | So I was always at my uncle's house or my aunt's house or my grandmother for a very long time took care of me. | 296.8218 |
226 | | 297.2883 | Um, | 297.7909 |
228 | | 297.9928 | my other- both- I know both of my maternal- or my maternal and my paternal grandmothers took care of me, | 303.9594 |
230 | | 304.3633 | until my mother's mom moved | 306.4316 |
232 | | 306.6725 | to Alabama, and then my father's mom watched me. | 309.2634 |
234 | | 309.7265 | And as I got older, you know, I got bored at my grandma's house, so I started going to my aunt's house, so | 314.3109 |
235 | ROC_int_01 | 314.6886 | Yeah. | 314.9844 |
236 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 315.0175 | yeah. | 315.4619 |
237 | ROC_int_01 | 315.5325 | Okay, | 316.1090 |
239 | | 316.3184 | so would you say that, um, you grew up then as a westsider? | 320.9405 |
240 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 321.0244 | <ts> | 321.0744 |
242 | | 321.2079 | Definitely [yeah I had a no business] on the east side. I didn't even know | 324.6501 |
243 | ROC_int_01 | 321.9686 | [Yeah. <laugh>] | 322.9897 |
244 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 325.2162 | the east side existed. Um, my mom was good about taking me to- she always took me out, you know, whether it was like a weekend at Corning Museum or, you know, doing different things, she took me out, but | 336.0277 |
246 | | 336.6968 | I didn't have no business on the east side. I didn't know what it was until I got older, so | 340.4764 |
247 | ROC_int_01 | 340.5405 | Yeah, [well, for someone who's] not from here, how would you characterize west side from east side? | 346.1355 |
248 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 340.9633 | [definitely a west sider.] | 342.2236 |
249 | | 346.7922 | Um, <laugh> | 347.7667 |
251 | | 348.0629 | so, the- the west side, | 349.8276 |
253 | | 350.1214 | I'd say- | 350.8982 |
255 | | 351.6442 | not even- I don't know, I feel like, um, there's m- | 355.1259 |
257 | | 355.2652 | more family oriented, people- working class people, | 358.7324 |
259 | | 359.0688 | um, | 359.6516 |
261 | | 359.8194 | families, working class people. | 361.5309 |
263 | | 361.9086 | Whereas the east side is kind of- | 363.4986 |
265 | | 363.8807 | it's bigger, so you have more opportunity for subsidized housing and people that get, um, | 369.4510 |
267 | | 369.7483 | <ts> | 369.9019 |
269 | | 371.0670 | you know, government assistance. Not saying that that doesn't exist on this side, but I just find that there's a higher percentage of homeowners per se | 378.4152 |
271 | | 378.8919 | on the west side, but it's smaller, so | 380.9325 |
273 | | 381.1054 | I don't know percentage-wise if you could actually- | 383.7171 |
275 | | 383.8812 | how it would stack up, but. | 385.1984 |
277 | | 385.7603 | The east side is kind of like the wild wild west. [<laugh>] | 389.2643 |
278 | ROC_int_01 | 388.3330 | [Yeah. <laugh>] | 389.7137 |
279 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 389.5454 | [Yeah], yeah on the west side, you know, | 391.0707 |
280 | | 391.7249 | with the exception of maybe like Jefferson, you know, there's a few areas that are kind of like, woo I wouldn't go over there, but | 397.5533 |
282 | | 398.0307 | it's more of a | 398.8805 |
284 | | 399.3544 | friendly neighborhood I'd say. | 401.2030 |
286 | | 401.5630 | My opinion. [<laugh>] | 403.6330 |
287 | ROC_int_01 | 403.0049 | [Cool, cool], no, [yeah.] | 404.5933 |
288 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 404.2198 | [<laugh>] | 404.6515 |
289 | ROC_int_01 | 404.9002 | That's good, I want your opinion, [so.] | 406.5978 |
290 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 406.2107 | [<laugh>] | 406.9987 |
291 | ROC_int_01 | 407.1101 | That's good, okay, what schools did you go to? | 409.8625 |
292 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 409.9679 | <ts> | 410.0526 |
294 | | 410.5463 | Oh gosh, I cannot | 412.0721 |
296 | | 412.1908 | think of the- | 413.3147 |
298 | | 413.4266 | I went to kindergarten at | 414.9943 |
300 | | 415.7241 | either- I think it was /RD-SCHOOL-4/, I can't remember. | 418.8536 |
302 | | 419.2816 | But from /RD-SCHOOL-4/ I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, school number /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 423.2288 |
304 | | 423.6361 | And from there, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and that's where I graduated from. So I didn't do too much jumping around. [I was- pretty much] in the same place, stability. <laugh> | 433.3893 |
305 | ROC_int_01 | 429.8903 | [Ah, okay.] | 430.9286 |
306 | | 433.5124 | That's good, [did you start] /RD-SCHOOL-2/ in high school or middle school? | 436.4458 |
307 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 434.2165 | [Mm-hm.] | 434.6829 |
309 | | 435.9119 | <ts> | 435.9787 |
311 | | 436.3957 | Middle school, I started in middle school, so. | 438.7884 |
312 | | 438.9465 | I started and never left. I fell in love. | 441.3859 |
314 | | 441.4763 | My, um- | 442.3159 |
316 | | 442.7755 | actually, for high school, my options were either go to Nazareth | 446.0274 |
318 | | 446.5217 | or, | 447.0533 |
320 | | 447.4804 | Wilson, | 448.2257 |
322 | | 448.4055 | and my mom was like you're not going to Wilson. <laugh> | 451.0429 |
324 | | 451.1875 | I didn't really want to go to Wilson [because] | 453.1091 |
325 | ROC_int_01 | 452.7760 | [Mm.] | 453.0878 |
326 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 453.4894 | a lot of the kids I went to elementary from- | 455.6655 |
328 | | 456.0761 | I was overweight growing up, | 457.2482 |
330 | | 457.6131 | so a lot of the kids were going to Wilson, and I didn't want to go because they used to tease me all the time, so I didn't want to go to Wilson. | 463.9007 |
332 | | 464.5465 | And I didn't want to go to a all girls school, cause I was like, great I'm never gonna have a boyfriend. <laugh> | 469.5772 |
334 | ROC_int_01 | 469.6434 | [<laugh>] | 470.2470 |
335 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 469.8277 | [So I] didn't want to go to Nazareth. | 471.4145 |
336 | | 471.8595 | Um, s- in /RD-SCHOOL-4/ c- I've always been a active kid, dancing, um, cheerleading. I was always in something, so /RD-SCHOOL-4/ made the most sense honestly, so. | 480.5266 |
337 | ROC_int_01 | 480.8579 | Yeah, | 481.3706 |
338 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 481.4970 | [Yeah.] | 481.8766 |
339 | ROC_int_01 | 481.5394 | [okay.] | 482.1288 |
340 | | 482.4296 | And, um, | 483.4648 |
342 | | 483.8728 | did you start off in dance in middle school too, [or?] | 486.6459 |
343 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 486.3866 | [Mm-hm.] | 487.1926 |
344 | ROC_int_01 | 487.0858 | [Okay.] | 487.4200 |
345 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 487.4617 | Um, I always dabbled in everything though. | 489.4530 |
347 | | 489.8984 | Cause sixth grade when we started, they had like an explore arts program, so you kind of did everything. | 495.7950 |
349 | | 496.0124 | You went through vocal, drama, music, creative writing. | 499.3143 |
351 | | 499.7106 | Um, but dance was just my | 501.1077 |
353 | | 501.2196 | thing, it was my go-to, so, | 503.3981 |
355 | | 504.3764 | that's what I stuck with. | 505.5463 |
357 | | 505.6998 | Although I (breathy) probably should have switched or tried double major with drama, probably would have | 510.0196 |
359 | | 510.5060 | done well with that. [<laugh>] | 512.2467 |
360 | ROC_int_01 | 511.5469 | [Yeah] | 512.2844 |
361 | | 512.3495 | Okay, [we- we] got to [/inaudible/.] | 514.5953 |
362 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 512.6484 | [Yeah] | 513.1356 |
364 | | 513.3156 | [Right, /unintelligible/] <laugh> | 515.2025 |
365 | ROC_int_01 | 515.2485 | Yeah, | 515.6894 |
366 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 515.6872 | [<laugh>] | 516.1460 |
367 | ROC_int_01 | 515.9009 | [actually] it's so funny cause my niece is going to her, uh, | 519.3695 |
368 | | 520.1027 | uh, orientation for [the middle school program today, so.] | 523.5185 |
369 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 521.6072 | [Really], | 522.7290 |
371 | | 522.9484 | [aw.] | 524.2495 |
372 | ROC_int_01 | 523.8967 | [Yeah] I think they have like the same kind of structure [where like you-] | 527.3146 |
373 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 526.5073 | [Oh okay they do] explore arts though, okay [so it's] not just like you got to go pick what you want, [/?/] | 532.0420 |
374 | ROC_int_01 | 528.8586 | [Mm-hm.] | 529.1939 |
376 | | 531.7141 | [Right] exactly, [so-] | 533.4904 |
377 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 533.1831 | [Cause we] were the last | 534.4932 |
378 | | 534.6639 | sixth grade class, | 535.8893 |
380 | | 536.0166 | so, | 536.6730 |
382 | | 536.9631 | the class of O eight, anybody that was there from middle school, was the last sixth grade class at | 542.0758 |
384 | | 542.3099 | /RD-SCHOOL-4/, so. | 543.1379 |
385 | ROC_int_01 | 543.1144 | Yeah, [cause] they switch around so much, [seven through twelve], six to [twelfth, yup.] | 547.4001 |
386 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 543.5776 | [Mm.] | 543.7478 |
388 | | 545.0512 | [Yeah], | 545.8231 |
390 | | 547.0520 | [yeah] | 547.9533 |
391 | ROC_int_01 | 548.2130 | [yeah.] | 548.6067 |
392 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 548.2464 | [mm.] | 548.5111 |
393 | | 548.8442 | <ts> | 548.9009 |
394 | ROC_int_01 | 549.5067 | Okay, and how would you characterize your time at /RD-SCHOOL-2/? | 552.9857 |
395 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 553.7316 | Um, it was honestly the best- | 555.9208 |
397 | | 556.0211 | one of the best times of my life. | 558.1930 |
399 | | 558.5958 | Um, I really- | 559.9400 |
401 | | 560.5716 | I'm really thankful that I went to that school for so many different reasons. Um, it- | 565.1926 |
403 | | 565.5241 | you know, I was always open minded anyway as an individual, but | 568.6919 |
405 | | 569.0981 | going there, it allowed me to explore and | 571.7219 |
407 | | 572.0611 | kind of figure out who I was at a young age. | 574.1894 |
409 | | 574.5951 | Um, it was a outlet, and I got to experience so many things that | 578.6966 |
411 | | 578.8412 | I would have never, in- even in my adulthood, I would have never- you know, I would have never got to dance with /RD-NAME-3/ | 584.3398 |
412 | ROC_int_01 | 584.6522 | [Hm.] | 584.8394 |
413 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 584.6739 | [if I] didn't go to /RD-SCHOOL-4/, you know, so. | 586.4714 |
414 | | 586.9540 | So many cool experiences, so many different people from different walks of life and, | 592.0533 |
416 | | 592.4403 | um, | 592.9492 |
418 | | 593.0984 | just kind of | 594.0356 |
420 | | 594.4762 | the foundation of you never know what you're gonna get from somebody, so before you kind of judge you should | 599.4503 |
422 | | 599.9467 | give somebody a chance to open up and see what they can offer. | 602.8408 |
424 | | 603.2284 | I love that school. | 604.0510 |
425 | ROC_int_01 | 604.4718 | Yeah. | 604.8783 |
426 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 604.9823 | [<laugh>] | 606.0460 |
427 | ROC_int_01 | 605.8333 | [Me] too. I th- I think that it's, um, | 608.4267 |
428 | | 608.7151 | of the city [schools, you know, one of the best.] | 611.3877 |
429 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 609.7957 | [Yeah], | 610.7459 |
431 | | 611.3511 | [yeah.] | 611.7529 |
432 | ROC_int_01 | 611.8550 | [Yeah.] | 612.1717 |
433 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 611.8947 | [I mean], that's as far as the arts goes. As far as the education portion, | 616.3035 |
434 | | 616.7724 | I'm a bit disappointed because, um, I'm a first generation | 620.8664 |
436 | | 621.1926 | college student, [so], | 622.5974 |
437 | ROC_int_01 | 622.1483 | [Mm.] | 622.4934 |
438 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 623.3917 | um, you know, my parents' | 624.9328 |
440 | | 625.4623 | goal back then was | 627.0649 |
442 | | 627.1764 | work, get out. You know, companies were around so my dad | 630.1973 |
444 | | 630.5424 | got out of school and worked at Kodak, and he retired from there, so he was there for thirty-five plus years. | 635.1336 |
446 | | 635.5212 | My mom's been with the state for | 637.3744 |
448 | | 637.8669 | twenty-six years almost. | 639.6775 |
450 | | 639.9234 | So, you know, | 640.6029 |
452 | | 640.7329 | they got jobs and worked. | 642.0040 |
454 | | 642.0807 | Um, | 642.5566 |
456 | | 643.1645 | <ts> in school, n- | 644.3700 |
458 | | 644.6292 | all I knew was | 645.4666 |
460 | | 645.5469 | I'm going to college. I didn't know how I got there, | 648.3974 |
462 | | 648.5369 | how you pay for it, what to do. | 650.3026 |
464 | | 650.8144 | So when I kind of got there, | 652.4832 |
466 | | 653.2357 | I was stuck because my parents didn't really know | 656.1620 |
468 | | 656.3227 | what to do, other than tell me, you're going to college. | 659.1127 |
470 | | 659.9117 | So, | 660.3182 |
472 | | 660.7579 | I don't think /RD-SCHOOL-4/ really prepared me | 663.6417 |
474 | | 663.8355 | for | 664.4075 |
476 | | 664.5691 | school. | 665.0944 |
478 | | 665.3300 | They just wanted me to graduate. | 666.7768 |
480 | | 668.0390 | [And they pushed] me along and I feel like, um- | 670.7649 |
481 | ROC_int_01 | 668.2140 | [Mm.] | 668.6107 |
482 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 671.1241 | I was just have- actually I was just having this conversation with /RD-NAME-2/ | 674.0276 |
484 | | 674.4295 | about how, you know, | 675.6775 |
486 | | 676.3536 | they didn't prepare me. They- I don't feel like they | 678.8714 |
488 | | 678.9565 | prepared me for college. They just said, okay, get good grades, apply to school you want, | 683.5335 |
490 | | 683.7037 | go there, | 684.4553 |
492 | | 684.7484 | you'll be fine. That's not- | 685.8074 |
494 | | 686.0674 | that is not nearly- | 687.2540 |
496 | | 687.6275 | Nobody told me, don't apply to a nursing program right out of high [school.] | 691.6845 |
497 | ROC_int_01 | 691.5251 | [Mm.] | 692.0026 |
498 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 692.0816 | And the first person that did was a black man, | 694.3711 |
500 | | 694.8107 | and I took so much offense to it because I thought he was insulting my intelligence, | 699.2649 |
502 | | 699.6336 | not realizing, you know, | 700.9526 |
504 | | 701.3978 | <ts> you've never taken A and P, how are you gonna get into a nursing program, you know. | 705.4256 |
506 | | 705.5450 | I didn't know that so, | 706.6736 |
508 | | 707.1525 | looking back, | 708.0885 |
510 | | 708.4715 | I wish I woulda listened to that man. <laugh> | 710.5997 |
511 | ROC_int_01 | 710.7084 | [Mm-hm.] | 711.1622 |
512 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 710.9276 | [/Cause it/] broke my heart when I applied and didn't get in. | 713.2896 |
513 | | 713.7576 | But, um, | 714.3580 |
515 | | 714.6945 | yeah, no. | 715.5029 |
517 | | 715.7960 | Miss- | 716.1553 |
519 | | 716.2829 | what was her name, um, the counselor. | 718.6693 |
521 | | 719.3747 | [I can't-] | 719.9751 |
522 | ROC_int_01 | 719.4125 | [Uh], /RD-NAME-2/? | 720.6322 |
523 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 720.9829 | Miss /RD-NAME-1/, tha- I feel like, was that- | 722.9779 |
525 | | 723.5972 | Yeah, she was retiring? She was getting ready to [retire?] | 726.5420 |
526 | ROC_int_01 | 725.9704 | [Oh], maybe not. | 727.2968 |
527 | | 727.5048 | [Maybe not cause I think] she's | 729.2446 |
528 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 727.6278 | [No.] | 728.3842 |
529 | ROC_int_01 | 729.3722 | [still there, yeah.] | 730.7790 |
530 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 729.5140 | [still there. No, it's-] it was- | 731.3936 |
531 | | 731.7009 | my counselor was getting ready- she was supposed to retire the year that we graduated, but she stayed. | 736.3867 |
533 | | 736.6561 | Or either the year before, and then she stayed for our year. | 739.3366 |
535 | | 740.1033 | She didn't really check in with me. It was just kind of like the beginning of the year, you know, you met with her, | 744.2446 |
537 | | 744.7031 | and then I didn't really see her again until the end when it was already, you know, | 748.2413 |
539 | | 748.3500 | too late. | 748.9634 |
540 | ROC_int_01 | 749.1525 | Mm-hm. | 749.8616 |
541 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 749.8805 | Um, | 750.3769 |
543 | | 750.6520 | but, you know, I wasn't a horrible student or anything, but I just- | 753.4884 |
545 | | 754.3867 | I just was very disappointed in retrospect, looking back. | 757.5913 |
547 | | 757.7015 | Then I had no idea. | 759.0393 |
549 | | 759.1581 | I wish | 759.7047 |
551 | | 759.7780 | they would've | 760.3299 |
553 | | 760.4481 | prepared me a lot more | 761.6633 |
555 | | 761.9083 | for [school], so. | 762.8775 |
556 | ROC_int_01 | 762.1731 | [Yeah.] | 762.5087 |
557 | | 762.9295 | No, I think I can totally relate. [I mean going] to the /RD-SCHOOL-3/, I don't feel like I had the education | 768.3244 |
558 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 764.7732 | [Mm-hm.] | 765.2743 |
559 | ROC_int_01 | 768.7593 | to keep up with those other kids. Everybody had AP everything. | 772.3002 |
560 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 772.3096 | Yeah. | 773.0046 |
561 | ROC_int_01 | 773.1728 | [Everything, you know, I] took like, one or two [APs.] | 776.2565 |
562 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 773.5652 | [Yeah.] | 774.1080 |
564 | | 775.4387 | [Yeah], | 775.8878 |
566 | | 776.0343 | [cause] they didn't tell you. | 777.1595 |
567 | | 777.2635 | <laugh> | 777.4715 |
568 | ROC_int_01 | 777.5499 | Yeah, they didn't tell me, and on top of that, I'm just like, well if I don't think I can get a A in it, I don't wanna take it, [which is] not a great [mindset to have, right?] Like, just, whatever I can get a A in, whatever's easy. | 787.8358 |
569 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 782.4806 | [Yup.] | 782.8422 |
571 | | 784.1224 | [Mm-mm.] | 784.9227 |
572 | | 787.9684 | Right. | 788.3238 |
573 | ROC_int_01 | 788.3285 | But yeah, so I definitely felt that way when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 791.6756 |
574 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 791.8080 | And not that we weren't capable. | 793.5504 |
576 | | 793.7017 | This is another thing that makes me mad. We live in a college town, like, | 797.2103 |
578 | | 797.6122 | I don't understand why | 799.3944 |
580 | | 799.9145 | colleges don't, | 800.8694 |
582 | | 801.2807 | you know, kind of advertise almost to- You know, if you go down south | 805.5410 |
584 | | 805.8436 | everybody's goal from | 807.3516 |
586 | | 807.9690 | middle school, maybe even, | 809.5621 |
588 | | 810.0613 | um, elementary, it's to either, you know, play a sport, or they're gonna go to that- they're- they're gonna go to that university. | 816.7440 |
590 | | 817.3074 | That's not the mindset here, like, I don't feel like that's the culture, | 820.3046 |
592 | | 820.6450 | at least for the city schools, you know, maybe suburbs, little different, but I don't feel like they advertise, or | 826.6450 |
594 | | 827.1650 | they | 827.4581 |
596 | | 827.6709 | input themselves into the schools as much as they should. | 830.6803 |
597 | ROC_int_01 | 830.9545 | Mm. | 831.1679 |
598 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 831.1436 | Whereas, you know, | 832.1061 |
599 | | 832.4039 | people- I meet people from | 833.6850 |
601 | | 833.8221 | all different places and they're like, yeah I know the U of R, I know, I've heard about it, and | 837.7960 |
603 | | 838.6261 | you're a little more excited than me, and I live there, you know. [<laugh>] | 841.9400 |
604 | ROC_int_01 | 841.7301 | [Mm-hm, yeah.] | 842.6425 |
605 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 842.2548 | [You hear] great things about it, you not from here. | 844.5098 |
606 | | 845.0827 | I don't know, I've always wondered about that too. I just feel like | 848.0894 |
608 | | 848.5716 | they don't really | 849.3658 |
610 | | 849.8905 | advertise to | 851.0922 |
612 | | 851.5224 | the city schools and | 853.1155 |
614 | | 854.3352 | kind of help bring them up so that you're ready for their | 857.0535 |
616 | | 857.5413 | curriculum when you get there, so. | 859.2573 |
617 | ROC_int_01 | 859.5221 | Yeah, yeah. | 860.7112 |
619 | | 860.9008 | No, I completely agree. I mean, I ended up making it, | 863.5444 |
621 | | 863.6791 | but | 863.9687 |
622 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 864.1795 | Right. And [not that you] weren't capable, [you know], but had you had mindset of this is what I need in ninth grade | 870.7326 |
623 | ROC_int_01 | 864.8697 | [it was-] | 865.4323 |
625 | | 866.2927 | [Mm-hm.] | 866.7465 |
626 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 870.9926 | to get here, | 872.0279 |
628 | | 872.4061 | your perspective probably would've been totally different, you know, you woulda been AP-ed out from ninth grade all the [way up until], you know, | 878.6945 |
629 | ROC_int_01 | 877.3944 | [Mm-hm.] | 878.0090 |
630 | | 878.8789 | [Yeah], | 879.3611 |
631 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 879.2145 | [so.] | 879.6617 |
632 | ROC_int_01 | 879.4793 | [but] I do feel like having the major | 881.6472 |
633 | | 881.9923 | definitely prepared me in a different kind of way. | 884.2454 |
634 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 884.2596 | Yes. | 885.0301 |
636 | | 885.3233 | [Yes.] | 885.9473 |
637 | ROC_int_01 | 885.4320 | [You know, like-] | 886.4258 |
638 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 886.2357 | [That] critical thinking, you know, we were able to figure it out, even if you didn't know, you gonna figure out a way to make it happen, | 892.4673 |
639 | | 892.8794 | /so./ | 893.1016 |
640 | ROC_int_01 | 893.6169 | [Yeah, and like] time management and knowing you had stuff that was just kind of like | 898.3389 |
641 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 893.7020 | [I think I agree.] | 894.7751 |
642 | ROC_int_01 | 898.4358 | requirements, but things that you had to satisfy for | 901.5280 |
643 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 901.5280 | Mm-hm. | 902.4250 |
644 | ROC_int_01 | 902.5082 | your discipline. | 903.5246 |
645 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 903.6022 | Yes. | 904.2735 |
647 | | 904.5280 | Yup. | 904.8061 |
648 | ROC_int_01 | 904.8447 | Yeah, I like that part of it I guess. | 906.7844 |
649 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 906.8411 | Yeah. | 907.1886 |
651 | | 907.4098 | [<laugh>] | 908.7973 |
652 | ROC_int_01 | 907.6982 | [<laugh>] | 908.7477 |
653 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 909.1145 | [Yeah.] | 909.6085 |
654 | ROC_int_01 | 909.2090 | [So], where did you, um, apply to school when y- | 911.7619 |
655 | | 911.8611 | first out of like, /RD-SCHOOL-2/? | 913.0682 |
656 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 913.3803 | So I applied- I only applied to Brockport, again not even | 917.8647 |
658 | | 918.7156 | realizing there was so much more out there than just | 922.1770 |
660 | | 922.3377 | New York State, you know. | 923.6567 |
662 | | 923.9214 | Looking back, I wish I would've applied to a down south school. I wish I would've gone- | 928.1755 |
664 | | 928.5552 | You know, I should've been on the drum line, dancing, doing something, but I didn't even know that- | 932.5082 |
666 | | 933.1369 | you know, you see it in the movies, but I didn't know that this culture actually existed and, um, | 938.5082 |
668 | | 939.1038 | <ts> again, my parents didn't really | 941.0279 |
670 | | 942.4556 | speak anything other th- | 943.7840 |
672 | | 944.3116 | speak anything into me other than, you're going to college. | 946.8739 |
674 | | 947.0638 | So, you know, the culture, and what to expect and | 949.8341 |
676 | | 950.1414 | they didn't know cause they didn't go, and I was first generation college, so | 953.6311 |
678 | | 954.0566 | literally like, the first person in my family to actually fill out a application. | 958.3869 |
680 | | 958.6545 | I had a older cousin who | 960.0065 |
682 | | 960.4820 | g- um, was brilliant. She had all | 962.5806 |
684 | | 962.6999 | straight As and even got scholarships but she ended up getting pregnant. | 966.3280 |
686 | | 966.7184 | So she didn't go. And, you know, she was kind of like my role model, so | 969.8102 |
688 | | 970.2916 | when she just kind of | 971.4184 |
690 | | 971.5744 | got out of school and worked, I was like, okay well, | 973.5930 |
692 | | 973.8863 | what's life, you know, you just | 975.1763 |
694 | | 975.2650 | go to college. | 975.9593 |
696 | | 976.3423 | So I applied to Brockport, | 977.6392 |
698 | | 978.2854 | <ts> | 978.3861 |
700 | | 978.5043 | didn't get in because I applied right to the nursing program. | 981.8513 |
702 | | 982.3694 | And my father goes, well, I'm not paying for you to take liberal arts there. We don't have any money, so | 987.8210 |
704 | | 988.1661 | you're going to MCC. | 989.2440 |
706 | | 989.4804 | I'm like I don't wanna go to MCC. That's thirteenth grade. That's all I've heard all my life. | 994.0810 |
708 | | 994.7287 | So I ended up, um, kind of last minute just | 998.2042 |
710 | | 998.5021 | picking /RD-SCHOOL-3/, | 1000.0196 |
712 | | 1000.4072 | which was a horrible mistake. <laugh> | 1002.5866 |
713 | ROC_int_01 | 1002.7813 | Aw, [really?] | 1003.6606 |
714 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1003.3864 | [Yeah], it was horrible. I- because I wasn't stimulated. I was bored, you know, I literally- | 1008.6650 |
715 | | 1008.9203 | I was almost depressed even because I literally was just going to school and just | 1013.1097 |
717 | | 1014.2329 | working and going to school wor- I was working three jobs just to keep up with | 1017.9061 |
719 | | 1018.6417 | school books and tuition cause I didn't get any financial [aid.] | 1022.1731 |
720 | ROC_int_01 | 1022.0218 | [<sigh>] | 1022.5466 |
721 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1022.5655 | I didn't qualify for EOP. | 1024.4715 |
723 | | 1024.7260 | I- I like didn't have any help, and I had to take out loans in my name, so it was just like, | 1029.6339 |
725 | | 1030.1075 | I'm working, I wasn't ready for all this responsibility, and now I'm adjusting to school, you know, nobody's really | 1035.9912 |
727 | | 1036.3789 | explaining how this works, a Q, a W, or whatever. You know what I'm saying, nothing- nobody explained anything to me, so. | 1042.3789 |
729 | | 1042.9273 | Um, | 1043.3527 |
731 | | 1044.0221 | I went there for two years, and I, | 1046.1447 |
733 | | 1047.0741 | um, ended up being waitlisted for the nursing program, | 1050.1483 |
735 | | 1050.3718 | and after | 1051.9603 |
737 | | 1052.8783 | I went back for a semester and I was like, I'm not happy. | 1055.4122 |
739 | | 1055.7290 | So I went and got my LPN. | 1057.2465 |
741 | | 1058.0360 | Ended up doing that, which I wish I would've | 1060.3486 |
743 | | 1060.5093 | done first actually, if I would've known about vocational [school.] | 1064.3371 |
744 | ROC_int_01 | 1063.8658 | [Mm.] | 1064.3244 |
745 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1064.8255 | Had I had known that option was available, | 1066.8667 |
747 | | 1067.2211 | I actually would've just done that. | 1069.0913 |
749 | | 1069.3198 | Um, | 1069.8276 |
751 | | 1070.5106 | I'm the type of person who needs experience to learn. So, | 1073.4076 |
753 | | 1073.7200 | you can spew | 1074.7365 |
755 | | 1075.0163 | everything from a book to me, but if I can't apply it to anything, like, and make it tangible, it- it just doesn't | 1081.3427 |
757 | | 1081.5572 | stick to me. So, | 1082.6436 |
759 | | 1083.0726 | going to LPN school and getting my LPN in ten months and being able to actually work in the field, | 1088.0002 |
761 | | 1088.4851 | made so much sense. | 1089.6656 |
763 | | 1090.0425 | Except now, I'm in this point where I was like, okay I'm'a go back to school, I'm'a go back to school and here we are seven years later, I'm just now signing back up to go to school, so. | 1098.5174 |
765 | | 1098.9137 | I'm actually gonna be, um, starting /RD-SCHOOL-3/ in two weeks to finish out my RN. | 1103.7107 |
767 | | 1104.4801 | [Yay, <laugh>] | 1105.9442 |
768 | ROC_int_01 | 1104.7677 | [Yay, congrats.] | 1106.7136 |
769 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1106.5706 | [but] I'm mad at myself, because I let my sciences expire. So, I have to retake my sciences, and- | 1112.3406 |
770 | | 1112.8395 | but the journey was worth the experience that I've gained. | 1115.9671 |
772 | | 1116.1863 | Going through the process, so. | 1117.7179 |
774 | | 1118.0299 | <ts> | 1118.1386 |
775 | ROC_int_01 | 1118.1269 | Yeah. | 1118.4664 |
776 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1118.6483 | No worries. If I passed it before, I know I can pass it again, so, | 1121.6174 |
778 | | 1122.0231 | yeah. [<laugh>] | 1123.4406 |
779 | ROC_int_01 | 1123.1795 | [Yeah.] | 1123.5029 |
780 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1123.9302 | But [yeah], | 1124.7555 |
781 | ROC_int_01 | 1124.2380 | [Now], | 1124.7602 |
782 | | 1125.1245 | after you get your RN, cause we know that's gonna [happen-] | 1128.1070 |
783 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1127.8478 | [yes], speak it. [<laugh>] | 1130.0235 |
784 | ROC_int_01 | 1129.1884 | [Yes we're gonna] claim that. <laugh> | 1130.9328 |
785 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1130.9887 | Yes, [yes.] | 1131.9912 |
786 | ROC_int_01 | 1131.5482 | [Do you] think you'll stay in Rochester? | 1134.0464 |
787 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1134.2702 | Um, | 1134.7225 |
789 | | 1134.9650 | so, after I get my RN, I actually wanna get my master's. My goal was always to become a nurse practitioner, um, and specialize in obstetrics. | 1142.8628 |
791 | | 1143.4503 | Now I've been coming across this question c- um, | 1146.9650 |
793 | | 1147.2971 | especially since we're older now, | 1149.0633 |
795 | | 1149.3850 | I feel like, | 1150.0845 |
797 | | 1150.4843 | ah, you're too old to be on campus again, you're a old hag, you can't be on campus cause you're so old. | 1156.8807 |
799 | | 1157.4589 | Um, but then I think about it. | 1159.2821 |
801 | | 1160.0201 | <ts> | 1160.1002 |
803 | | 1160.2603 | And, um, you know /RD-NAME-2/ you know who [/RD-NAME-2/ [is, yeah.] | 1163.0206 |
804 | ROC_int_01 | 1162.5118 | [Yeah.] | 1163.0112 |
805 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1163.3936 | And so, w- /RD-NAME-2/ went to Nazareth, and I kind of hung out there a lot, you know. | 1167.1519 |
807 | | 1167.3244 | That was my college experience basically at Nazareth, | 1170.3542 |
809 | | 1170.6479 | through her. | 1171.1748 |
811 | | 1171.6225 | Um, | 1172.0375 |
813 | | 1172.2706 | and I just remember meeting so many people. I don't know if you know /RD-NAME-4/? | 1176.9891 |
814 | ROC_int_01 | 1177.4173 | That name sounds [extremely familiar, /inaudible/] | 1180.7734 |
815 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1178.7141 | [You probably do know her, yeah] she's- um, she's really, | 1182.8065 |
816 | | 1183.2588 | um, active in the community with different things. Um, | 1186.0005 |
818 | | 1186.2559 | I'm pretty sure, cause she- I don't think she knows /RD-NAME-2/ I'm pretty sure you- you [probably know exactly] who she is, but | 1191.3804 |
819 | ROC_int_01 | 1189.8266 | [/Probably/.] | 1190.3592 |
820 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1191.7751 | she was older. Uh- while we were in school and I remember meeting her | 1195.4826 |
822 | | 1195.8743 | and thinking, wow like, if she could do it, you know, why can't I? You know, it's a school, do what you wanna do. | 1202.5131 |
824 | | 1203.0110 | So, lately I've been going back and forth with, um, | 1205.9485 |
826 | | 1206.5966 | do I wanna stay in state | 1208.0841 |
828 | | 1208.4245 | for my master's, or would I like to | 1210.6708 |
830 | | 1211.2117 | experience life | 1212.9370 |
832 | | 1213.2260 | outside of Rochester? | 1214.7929 |
834 | | 1215.7336 | I don't know financially where I'll be, | 1217.9578 |
836 | | 1218.2096 | um, and then I've recently just gotten into a relationship. So, | 1221.5716 |
838 | | 1222.1264 | all of that kind of plays a factor. Um, | 1225.2774 |
840 | | 1225.7157 | now that I'm older, you know, I'm not getting any younger. <laugh> | 1229.3003 |
842 | | 1229.6454 | /I like [this-/] | 1230.1641 |
843 | ROC_int_01 | 1229.8619 | [You have] time. | 1230.7831 |
844 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1230.8811 | [I do. I have] plenty of time and I'm not rushing anything, but, you know, | 1235.0905 |
845 | ROC_int_01 | 1231.0458 | [<laugh>] | 1231.8836 |
846 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1235.3050 | we'll see. I don't know where my heart is gonna be. I- I'm one of 'em people that follow my heart, | 1239.5249 |
847 | ROC_int_01 | 1239.7487 | Mm. | 1240.2215 |
848 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1240.2384 | which is the- not always a good thing. | 1241.7296 |
850 | | 1241.9801 | But I follow my heart, and it- it hasn't led me too | 1244.8402 |
852 | | 1245.0010 | far from where I need to be, but | 1246.7557 |
854 | | 1247.3466 | we'll see. | 1247.9518 |
856 | | 1248.2449 | We'll- we'll see. I'm not sure. That's- that's a open ended question. [<laugh>] | 1252.4173 |
857 | ROC_int_01 | 1251.9256 | [Yeah.] | 1252.2944 |
858 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1252.6962 | [I don't know], so we'll see. | 1254.2279 |
859 | ROC_int_01 | 1252.7860 | [Yeah.] | 1253.2257 |
860 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1254.5313 | I've entertained it. | 1255.6517 |
862 | | 1255.9684 | I definitely wanted to do, um, traveling nursing for sure, | 1259.3864 |
864 | | 1259.9112 | um, once I get my RN though. | 1261.9637 |
866 | | 1262.1434 | I wanna | 1262.6929 |
868 | | 1262.8560 | experience the world. I love to travel, so | 1265.3864 |
870 | | 1266.0038 | that's what, | 1266.5959 |
872 | | 1266.7684 | um, has been my kind of | 1268.5688 |
874 | | 1268.7248 | goal for the next maybe three, four years, so. | 1271.6322 |
875 | ROC_int_01 | 1271.8261 | Mm-hm, | 1272.4123 |
877 | | 1272.6637 | and do you travel a lot now, or? | 1274.8194 |
878 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1274.8667 | Yes, too much, <laugh> | 1277.0082 |
879 | ROC_int_01 | 1277.1642 | So [where have you] been? | 1278.6136 |
880 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1277.6067 | [T-] | 1278.0179 |
881 | | 1278.6325 | too much. That would be the reason why I haven't | 1280.8828 |
883 | | 1281.1295 | gone back to school in the last- | 1282.7888 |
885 | | 1283.2615 | we'll add it up, seven years. Um, | 1285.4173 |
887 | | 1285.5402 | I've been to Jamaica twice. | 1287.9431 |
889 | | 1288.3166 | Um, in | 1289.1439 |
891 | | 1289.3386 | high school I had the chance to go to China, which really kind of like- | 1292.9078 |
893 | | 1293.3380 | that's where my travel bug | 1294.7799 |
895 | | 1294.8895 | came from. | 1295.5419 |
896 | ROC_int_01 | 1295.6114 | Mm-hm. | 1296.2449 |
897 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1296.2939 | Um, | 1296.8086 |
899 | | 1297.1868 | I've been to Canada a bunch of times. Um, <ts> I been to DR, | 1302.0285 |
901 | | 1302.6100 | Dominican Republic, I should say. | 1304.4017 |
903 | | 1304.9954 | Um, where else have I been? | 1306.9810 |
905 | | 1308.8681 | And, you know, traveling in the states. I've been to different states, mm. | 1312.6259 |
907 | | 1313.5908 | Sh- you want me to name 'em all, [or?] | 1314.9929 |
908 | ROC_int_01 | 1314.7140 | [Oh], no, you don't [/inaudible/] | 1316.7468 |
909 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1315.3569 | [<laugh> Yeah, I'm like, I'm like], I've been to a ton of- I've never been out west. That's probably the only place I haven't been. | 1320.2290 |
910 | | 1320.5844 | Like, southwest and out west, but, | 1322.3525 |
912 | | 1323.0994 | um, | 1323.4776 |
914 | | 1323.5958 | I do love to travel, whether it's for pleasure or like historic r- you know, sites, visiting different things. I love- | 1330.0847 |
916 | | 1330.5157 | /I'm/ very nostalgic, so | 1331.6267 |
917 | ROC_int_01 | 1331.7827 | [Mm-hm.] | 1332.3952 |
918 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1331.9103 | [love to] travel. | 1332.7991 |
919 | | 1332.9457 | <laugh> | 1333.3694 |
920 | ROC_int_01 | 1333.3522 | So is there anywhere you've been where you feel like, | 1336.0621 |
921 | | 1336.2098 | you know, this feels like an- it could be another home for me. | 1339.2482 |
922 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1339.3144 | No, and that's the problem. That's why I haven't, um, | 1342.8959 |
924 | | 1343.2079 | really | 1343.7752 |
926 | | 1344.0399 | kind of made the decision to move. | 1345.9668 |
928 | | 1346.1634 | Um, Charlotte was the only place that I came this close to feeling like that. | 1350.4607 |
930 | | 1350.9484 | I don't know if I didn't have enough time to experience it maybe, | 1354.1064 |
932 | | 1354.8025 | but, um, Charlotte was cool. | 1356.6856 |
934 | | 1356.9693 | I really did enjoy Charlotte, so. | 1358.8130 |
936 | | 1359.2838 | That's probably the only place. | 1360.2671 |
938 | | 1360.6642 | Um, | 1361.0424 |
940 | | 1361.4045 | I love Miami, but I don't think I could actually see myself living there. It's too- | 1365.2399 |
942 | | 1365.8923 | I don't think I could ever live in like a metropolitan area, | 1368.7863 |
943 | ROC_int_01 | 1368.8052 | Yeah. | 1369.3016 |
944 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1369.3394 | too- | 1369.6479 |
945 | ROC_int_01 | 1369.6597 | Yeah. | 1370.0095 |
946 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1370.0249 | too [crazy.] | 1370.8049 |
947 | ROC_int_01 | 1370.3237 | [/Let's turn] this up some more./ | 1371.5683 |
948 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1371.8208 | /I think/ [it's too] too crazy, | 1373.2674 |
949 | ROC_int_01 | 1372.2510 | [Yeah.] | 1372.6339 |
950 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1373.3998 | [<laugh>] | 1374.1449 |
951 | ROC_int_01 | 1374.0515 | [Yeah.] | 1374.5533 |
952 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1375.0213 | so. | 1375.4373 |
954 | | 1375.7824 | But Charlotte was cool. | 1377.0061 |
956 | | 1377.1408 | It was cool, yeah. | 1378.1462 |
957 | ROC_int_01 | 1378.6926 | Yeah, [okay.] | 1379.8083 |
958 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1379.3072 | [Mm-hm.] | 1379.7904 |
959 | ROC_int_01 | 1380.2034 | Well, um, | 1381.1868 |
961 | | 1381.6230 | how long is your RN program? | 1383.5127 |
962 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1384.0828 | So I'm gonna be doing the LPN to RN program, which is only ten mo- eighteen months, | 1390.7432 |
964 | | 1391.2215 | save the exception of some classes I don't have to take, so it might be a little shorter for me. | 1396.0672 |
966 | | 1396.3772 | But because recently, as in literally this semester, my sciences expire. | 1401.4087 |
968 | | 1401.6884 | So now I have to retake those. | 1403.4660 |
970 | | 1403.8772 | It'll probably be a year in total once I finish out my pre-reqs. | 1407.7018 |
972 | | 1407.8066 | But I'm'a try to see, cause technically | 1410.1089 |
974 | | 1410.5958 | my | 1411.3333 |
976 | | 1411.6075 | second half of my sciences won't e- expire until next fall. | 1415.4423 |
978 | | 1416.2365 | So I'm gonna try if they'll let me slide through and apply to the program, | 1420.1367 |
980 | | 1420.5993 | to get in for | 1421.4955 |
982 | | 1421.7413 | next /fall/ without it | 1423.1678 |
984 | | 1423.9952 | expiring, | 1424.9076 |
986 | | 1425.1609 | [maybe. We'll] see. | 1425.9929 |
987 | ROC_int_01 | 1425.2129 | [Mm-hm.] | 1425.6984 |
988 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1426.1348 | If that's the case, it'll only take a year. | 1427.9172 |
990 | | 1428.0520 | I'll be done | 1428.6261 |
992 | | 1428.9092 | by next year, | 1429.5333 |
994 | | 1430.3511 | next- | 1430.8002 |
996 | | 1431.5235 | that's two thousand | 1432.7243 |
998 | | 1433.8692 | nineteen, | 1434.6019 |
1000 | | 1434.9849 | spring of two thousand nineteen, yeah, | 1436.8239 |
1001 | ROC_int_01 | 1437.0697 | Okay. | 1437.4457 |
1002 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1437.8166 | so. | 1438.1076 |
1003 | ROC_int_01 | 1438.0921 | Cool. | 1438.5378 |
1004 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1438.6250 | Yeah | 1438.9410 |
1005 | ROC_int_01 | 1438.9410 | Awesome. | 1439.5296 |
1007 | | 1439.9609 | Well, um, | 1440.9206 |
1009 | | 1441.1428 | /inaudible/ okay, | 1442.3422 |
1011 | | 1442.4870 | cool. | 1442.6407 |
1012 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1442.6537 | [<laugh>] | 1443.5566 |
1013 | ROC_int_01 | 1443.0992 | [Um], | 1443.5460 |
1014 | | 1443.7532 | <ts> | 1443.8419 |
1016 | | 1444.1692 | what- | 1444.9162 |
1018 | | 1445.3428 | I wanna turn to some questions actually, um, more about [Rochester in general.] | 1449.2616 |
1019 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1448.2026 | [Hello.] | 1449.2616 |
1020 | ROC_int_01 | 1449.6918 | <laugh> | 1450.2118 |
1022 | | 1450.6373 | Um, | 1451.2707 |
1024 | | 1451.5213 | what are your favorite things to do here? | 1454.8286 |
1025 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1456.3886 | [/?/] | 1457.0166 |
1026 | ROC_int_01 | 1456.9134 | [Or] about here, about Rochester in general, I can- | 1459.8817 |
1027 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1460.6334 | It's so bad that the food was the first thing that came to my mind. (laughing) | 1464.1479 |
1029 | | 1464.2826 | <laugh> | 1464.7222 |
1031 | | 1465.1915 | Um, the food, seriously, | 1467.0305 |
1033 | | 1467.3717 | cause when you go somewhere else, there's- I don't- | 1470.1893 |
1035 | | 1470.4351 | unless it's like New York. Honestly, New York is probably the only place I could think of that satisfies my food cravings like here. | 1477.2246 |
1037 | | 1477.7541 | There's just so many different | 1479.5032 |
1039 | | 1480.1990 | things to enjoy here, whether it's like Caribbean food, or, | 1483.9384 |
1041 | | 1484.4584 | um, | 1485.0825 |
1043 | | 1485.8767 | <ts> | 1485.9586 |
1045 | | 1486.1517 | garbage plates I love. You know garbage plates are like staples here. Um, | 1490.6712 |
1047 | | 1491.8586 | I don't know. I just- even- you- you can actually get good seafood here too, which is t- depending on where you are, it's hard to get good seafood, so. | 1498.9648 |
1049 | | 1499.5936 | There's just- | 1500.3547 |
1051 | | 1501.2293 | food is- I don't know. I love food, and food is good here. | 1504.5744 |
1053 | | 1505.0046 | Um, other than that, | 1507.4562 |
1055 | | 1508.8962 | <exhale> I'm kind of, drawing short [<laugh>] | 1512.0163 |
1056 | ROC_int_01 | 1511.6665 | [Yeah], okay. | 1512.6289 |
1057 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1512.6526 | of ideas. | 1513.7068 |
1059 | | 1514.0188 | There's- | 1514.3970 |
1061 | | 1514.6948 | um, | 1515.2621 |
1063 | | 1516.3369 | I mean, we do have unique things here that, you know- | 1519.2435 |
1065 | | 1520.1606 | Obviously Rochester is a very historic place. | 1522.6386 |
1067 | | 1522.8608 | A lot of people don't realize how many | 1524.7034 |
1069 | | 1524.8145 | treasures are in our back yard. | 1526.7563 |
1071 | | 1527.3169 | Um, and I'm the history buff so uh, like this- | 1529.6995 |
1073 | | 1529.9813 | you know, things like the Susan B. Anthony house excite me. I- I'm excited to go see things like that. Um, | 1535.6523 |
1075 | | 1536.4256 | <ts> I don't think I'm going to that graveyard, the, um, Mount Hope Cemetery. [I'm- I don't] think I'm'a do [that, but] | 1541.4821 |
1076 | ROC_int_01 | 1539.6478 | [Mm-hm.] | 1540.1855 |
1078 | | 1540.8959 | [<laugh>] | 1541.5766 |
1079 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1542.1250 | just to know that we have, um, those things here. And even working in healthcare, | 1546.1537 |
1081 | | 1546.4988 | um, learning about the nursing history and how, | 1549.4070 |
1083 | | 1549.8561 | um, it's evolved here, | 1552.0343 |
1085 | | 1552.1714 | and | 1552.7304 |
1087 | | 1553.3856 | how the hospitals were started, you know, | 1555.4704 |
1089 | | 1556.0885 | <sigh> eighteen fifty-seven I wanna go back as far as. | 1560.1156 |
1091 | | 1560.7310 | I can't | 1561.3975 |
1093 | | 1561.5394 | [remember] exactly, but, you know, to know that | 1564.0875 |
1094 | ROC_int_01 | 1561.7298 | [/Mm-hm/.] | 1562.1168 |
1095 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1565.2201 | it's evolved from way back when, and | 1567.5035 |
1097 | | 1567.6831 | some things are still in place from that long ago, | 1570.8344 |
1099 | | 1571.1843 | it's kind of impressive. | 1572.1676 |
1101 | | 1572.5324 | Other than the history and the food, | 1574.4140 |
1103 | | 1575.2082 | it's nothing to do. Like I'm bored here, and | 1577.8414 |
1105 | | 1578.5013 | I don't really like being here, /and so/ I'm always kind of | 1580.6775 |
1107 | | 1580.8973 | on the go, traveling, | 1582.3414 |
1109 | | 1582.7763 | so. | 1583.1309 |
1111 | | 1583.6943 | School is good. That's why I'm here too. I- I- | 1586.3180 |
1113 | | 1586.9468 | I can't say that either, but who likes to be in school, you know. | 1590.4838 |
1114 | ROC_int_01 | 1590.6283 | [Mm-hm.] | 1591.2027 |
1115 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1590.6492 | [School isn't] fun, so. | 1592.0344 |
1116 | ROC_int_01 | 1592.3005 | So Rochester then isn't like a great place for young, black millennials? | 1596.6120 |
1117 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1596.7422 | I don't think so. | 1598.3403 |
1119 | | 1598.6239 | I don't think so. | 1599.7869 |
1121 | | 1600.1895 | I think, um, | 1601.4990 |
1123 | | 1603.2955 | now with- | 1604.0389 |
1125 | | 1604.1669 | Let me say this, I do think | 1606.0107 |
1127 | | 1606.2754 | Rochester is a very open minded place, | 1609.5863 |
1129 | | 1609.7541 | um, in some places. | 1611.4890 |
1131 | | 1611.8066 | I- I don't | 1612.6765 |
1133 | | 1613.2343 | think I walk outside my door, and the first thing on my mind is let me be conscious of where I go because I'm worried about my safety. | 1619.8380 |
1135 | | 1620.1973 | However there are places that I do go, and I'm like, | 1622.6706 |
1137 | | 1622.7794 | well, make sure you say this proper, make sure you don't, you know, be too loud | 1626.6687 |
1139 | | 1627.0958 | cause people are gonna | 1628.0641 |
1141 | | 1628.2532 | judge you. | 1629.0994 |
1143 | | 1629.6998 | Um, but | 1630.6548 |
1145 | | 1631.1398 | I don't think I'm worried, | 1632.5994 |
1147 | | 1632.7246 | you know, | 1633.3002 |
1149 | | 1633.7710 | about | 1634.2769 |
1151 | | 1634.5085 | police necessarily pulling me over and killing me. | 1637.2221 |
1153 | | 1637.3500 | That's not the first thing on my mind | 1639.0686 |
1155 | | 1639.2198 | living here. So there- I'm safe. | 1641.1770 |
1157 | | 1641.9390 | I'm comfortable here. I'm not, you know- | 1644.0427 |
1159 | | 1644.6809 | Whereas I had a experience in- | 1646.4584 |
1161 | | 1646.6078 | Um, my brother lives in Maryland. He moved to Maryland, | 1649.3119 |
1163 | | 1649.6523 | and we went down to Ocean City for a weekend. | 1652.1019 |
1165 | | 1652.4329 | Um, now, | 1653.2413 |
1167 | | 1653.3594 | you know, Maryland was a huge slave state, huge slave state. | 1656.7254 |
1169 | | 1656.8964 | Frederick Douglass was born there. I think Harriet Tubman was | 1660.2435 |
1171 | | 1660.4184 | born- I could be wrong, but I know for sure Har- um, Frederick Douglass was born there. | 1664.0168 |
1173 | | 1664.6933 | And, so anyway, we went to Ocean City. We were dancing | 1667.6806 |
1175 | | 1667.9799 | at this club, um, | 1669.4974 |
1177 | | 1669.6826 | the name of it- | 1670.4248 |
1179 | | 1670.7557 | Fager Island, it's called Fager Island. | 1672.6373 |
1181 | | 1673.1019 | Mostly white people, you know, obviously we stand out. It's a group, we went for his | 1677.5883 |
1183 | | 1678.1186 | wedding. They were- <exhale> um, he got married to a girl that lives there and we went kind of for | 1682.8886 |
1185 | | 1683.5466 | their, um, engagement party. | 1685.2721 |
1187 | | 1685.6078 | You know, we went out after. | 1686.8180 |
1189 | | 1687.5697 | <ts> | 1687.6595 |
1191 | | 1687.7978 | And, um, we were the only black people with an exception of maybe like, a cluster of three other people. <laugh> | 1694.2032 |
1193 | | 1694.3533 | And when I say cluster, I mean two people like, a group of two people, two and three people. | 1698.4370 |
1194 | ROC_int_01 | 1698.6970 | Mm. | 1698.9051 |
1195 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1699.2415 | So we stood out, you know. It was a group of eight of us maybe. | 1702.0402 |
1197 | | 1702.5677 | <ts> And we were dancing with the guys, and after a while the guys were like trying so hard to- | 1707.4938 |
1199 | | 1708.3172 | to show us like, oh, we know black people, we love reggae, we're down. | 1712.1559 |
1201 | | 1712.9233 | And then, at one point one of them says, | 1715.2138 |
1203 | | 1715.3395 | oh we love beautiful ebony women, and I was like, | 1718.0909 |
1205 | | 1718.3024 | w- [what?] | 1720.1455 |
1206 | ROC_int_01 | 1719.5322 | [<laugh>] | 1720.8750 |
1207 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1721.2390 | First of all, who even says ebony? Like why you just couldn't say black, if you were gonna- | 1725.8720 |
1209 | | 1726.0848 | you had to notate to fact that we're- obviously I'm black. I'm not | 1729.7351 |
1211 | | 1730.0282 | orange or gray. | 1731.1770 |
1213 | | 1731.9248 | But- but that- the fact that that was like- | 1734.0947 |
1215 | | 1734.4493 | that stood out before anything, | 1736.6192 |
1217 | | 1737.1514 | it just bothered me. So they were explaining to me like, yeah it's pretty racist down here. You gotta be careful where you are, where you go because, | 1743.8200 |
1219 | | 1744.2510 | you know, | 1744.7143 |
1221 | | 1745.4801 | it's /techsni-/ it's technically below the Mason-Dixon Line, and | 1749.1306 |
1223 | | 1751.2296 | life hasn't changed a bit much there for people, so, you know. | 1755.7490 |
1225 | | 1756.0477 | The metropolitan areas | 1757.8583 |
1227 | | 1758.4112 | <ts> I guess, but when you think about it, these are people that were born and raised there, and their family having the same values, traditions, and beliefs, and | 1765.7446 |
1229 | | 1766.2958 | they just move into the city with the same mindset, so. | 1769.6759 |
1231 | | 1770.8901 | I don't think I would feel as safe in a place like that where I'm | 1774.0687 |
1233 | | 1774.1555 | here, | 1774.6879 |
1235 | | 1775.6868 | um. | 1775.9893 |
1236 | ROC_int_01 | 1777.1326 | Yeah, so you feel like, uh, you're not like, I guess racialized in the same sort of way | 1781.6678 |
1237 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1782.1500 | [No.] | 1782.7457 |
1238 | ROC_int_01 | 1782.2871 | [as you would] be in those sorts of places. | 1784.5621 |
1239 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1784.5039 | No, I don't think, you know, | 1786.2293 |
1240 | | 1786.3995 | I'm- I'm not worry about a confederate (laughing) flag flying, you know, across my face or | 1790.8886 |
1242 | | 1791.1259 | driving behind somebody and they spit on my car because I'm black, you know. /But the-/ and my brother has told me about things that have happened just because he's | 1798.7621 |
1244 | | 1798.9559 | black, so. | 1799.6698 |
1246 | | 1800.2096 | I don't worry about that | 1801.2401 |
1248 | | 1801.7082 | here, so. | 1802.6064 |
1250 | | 1802.8191 | I'm thankful for that, I should say. | 1804.4596 |
1251 | ROC_int_01 | 1804.7338 | Yeah. | 1805.0344 |
1252 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1805.0269 | It's good, yeah. | 1805.8889 |
1253 | ROC_int_01 | 1806.0070 | Yeah. | 1806.5507 |
1255 | | 1806.6567 | And do you think that Rochester is, uh, segregated? | 1810.3839 |
1256 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1811.4988 | I do. | 1812.2056 |
1258 | | 1812.6788 | Um, | 1813.1645 |
1260 | | 1813.7554 | I feel it's more | 1814.9318 |
1262 | | 1815.0204 | an economic thing though. | 1816.6935 |
1264 | | 1816.7734 | It- it's- | 1817.6225 |
1266 | | 1818.1037 | it's, um, | 1819.0752 |
1268 | | 1820.3433 | very evident, the areas that are, | 1822.7922 |
1270 | | 1823.3414 | you know, poverty-stricken, and- | 1825.2891 |
1272 | | 1826.6553 | However, it tends to be more minorities in those areas, so | 1832.0452 |
1274 | | 1832.1569 | you can then subdivide it into | 1834.6200 |
1276 | | 1834.8611 | minorities are poor in Rochester. | 1837.3998 |
1278 | | 1838.0719 | Um, | 1838.6487 |
1280 | | 1839.3247 | which is frustrating because I think it boils down to resources when you | 1843.0878 |
1282 | | 1843.4621 | have this conversation about Rochester. I don't feel like | 1846.1378 |
1284 | | 1847.0928 | we couldn't all be on the same page, but again going back to high school resources, you know. How come the city schools aren't targeted or marketed by colleges? How come they don't have programs where, | 1858.9557 |
1286 | | 1859.3055 | you know, start up in ninth grade so that you can be prepared, or even a- a buddy buddy program or a sister, you know. | 1865.7215 |
1287 | ROC_int_01 | 1865.9579 | [Mm.] | 1866.2841 |
1288 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1866.1234 | [Something] that I could think of, and then you | 1869.0458 |
1289 | | 1869.4051 | go to, or I have friends that went to suburb schools, and they're like, oh yeah, we all had tablets. What? | 1874.2157 |
1291 | | 1874.3291 | How did you- | 1875.1990 |
1293 | | 1875.5942 | how did you afford that? We barely had books that didn't break apart, you know. | 1878.8923 |
1294 | ROC_int_01 | 1879.1756 | Mm-hm. | 1879.5444 |
1295 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1879.8044 | Um, | 1880.3150 |
1297 | | 1881.1733 | <ts> | 1881.2613 |
1299 | | 1881.5752 | and obviously, | 1883.0360 |
1301 | | 1883.6175 | I think racism up here is just a bit more polite, | 1886.3319 |
1303 | | 1886.5115 | so | 1887.1923 |
1305 | | 1887.6130 | the polite way of doing it is breaking it down economically. So, you know, you're black, you're gonna live in a poor neighborhood. We don't have to fund you. | 1894.8847 |
1307 | | 1895.5235 | This No Child Left Behind thing, you know, | 1897.9887 |
1309 | | 1898.3177 | we don't have to fund you cause you didn't do great. Now we're gonna close your school because you suck, | 1902.8041 |
1311 | | 1903.2087 | and just pump that money somewhere else, whereas | 1905.4537 |
1313 | | 1905.7089 | you should've pumped more money into that school, given them more resources and helped the kids, and it might've | 1910.6236 |
1315 | | 1911.2618 | turned into something totally different, so. | 1913.3891 |
1317 | | 1913.9147 | Uh, that does frustrate me a lot, | 1915.9523 |
1319 | | 1916.2690 | and | 1916.7418 |
1321 | | 1918.4458 | I think we're in a cycle now where people are so used to- | 1922.4272 |
1323 | | 1922.9756 | um, | 1923.5145 |
1325 | | 1924.1291 | it's the norm. People are just used to black people being | 1927.1263 |
1327 | | 1927.2756 | dumb, or black people [not] making it through school, or black people- | 1930.4288 |
1328 | ROC_int_01 | 1928.3157 | [Mm.] | 1928.5993 |
1329 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1930.8496 | I shouldn't even say black people. I should say minorities. Um, | 1933.5356 |
1331 | | 1933.7294 | getting out of school and working, or | 1935.3132 |
1333 | | 1935.4833 | having kids and | 1936.6274 |
1335 | | 1936.9781 | being in the system, you know. | 1938.2687 |
1337 | | 1938.7130 | Which | 1939.1574 |
1339 | | 1939.5356 | again, statistically, we aren't | 1941.4313 |
1341 | | 1942.1452 | obviously the only people using the system. | 1944.6752 |
1343 | | 1945.5451 | It's just kind of | 1947.2895 |
1345 | | 1947.7292 | we're | 1948.2114 |
1347 | | 1948.4316 | the face of | 1949.8357 |
1349 | | 1949.9964 | the system, so. | 1951.0695 |
1351 | | 1951.5496 | <ts> | 1951.6230 |
1353 | | 1951.8382 | It's unfortunate. | 1952.9917 |
1355 | | 1953.5543 | I'm kind of scared for the generation under us cause it [seems like] that's just what they know. So they used to it, that's what they know. | 1960.1357 |
1356 | ROC_int_01 | 1956.5759 | [Mm-hm.] | 1957.0345 |
1357 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1960.8571 | And it's becoming the norm for them, [so.] | 1963.7456 |
1358 | ROC_int_01 | 1963.4629 | [Mm-hm.] | 1963.7565 |
1359 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1964.0503 | [Mm.] | 1964.4699 |
1360 | ROC_int_01 | 1964.3043 | [So] what would- what do you think would need to happen to fix the circumstances I guess that they're gonna enter into, and to also get more | 1971.7164 |
1361 | | 1971.9811 | like young black millennials to want to stay in Rochester? | 1975.6316 |
1362 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 1976.7662 | I- well, | 1977.6502 |
1364 | | 1977.8298 | the- | 1978.2801 |
1366 | | 1978.4858 | the economy has to change, again with the, | 1980.8507 |
1368 | | 1981.0048 | you know, | 1981.4586 |
1370 | | 1982.0779 | Kodak was a huge loss. Um, | 1984.5937 |
1372 | | 1985.9269 | Xerox is pretty much, kind of the only big name still here. | 1989.8318 |
1374 | | 1989.9981 | Um, | 1990.5417 |
1376 | | 1990.8585 | didn't | 1991.3265 |
1378 | | 1991.7803 | Bausch and Lomb hi- like they went through- | 1994.2197 |
1380 | | 1994.7047 | a huge thing too, so | 1995.8487 |
1382 | | 1996.1210 | I think we need more resources, | 1998.3335 |
1384 | | 1998.5584 | opportunities | 1999.8065 |
1386 | | 2000.0098 | that aren't just | 2000.8134 |
1388 | | 2001.3335 | working class opportunities. | 2003.0684 |
1390 | | 2003.5412 | Um, | 2004.1510 |
1392 | | 2005.6741 | it would help | 2006.3880 |
1394 | | 2006.6243 | stimulate the economy, and it would help, you know- | 2009.5081 |
1396 | | 2009.8323 | Obviously they're gonna think, okay, we need people. | 2012.1914 |
1398 | | 2012.5055 | We can't just rely on everybody that's here. We need to | 2015.1610 |
1400 | | 2015.4589 | extend our resources to the future because they're gonna become the present. | 2019.3638 |
1402 | | 2020.6079 | Um, | 2021.1421 |
1404 | | 2021.5782 | I don't know what would help. I'm not a | 2024.2859 |
1406 | | 2024.7532 | analyst or [anything.] | 2026.3026 |
1407 | ROC_int_01 | 2026.0142 | [Mm-hm.] | 2026.4066 |
1408 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2026.6382 | I don't know, but I just know that you have to invest into the future | 2030.5345 |
1410 | | 2030.8524 | in order to h- make the present what you want it to be. | 2033.9430 |
1412 | | 2034.3882 | And I definitely think our school systems need a overhaul. | 2037.7258 |
1414 | | 2037.8960 | It's- it's really sad. | 2039.5317 |
1416 | | 2040.2881 | <ts> Now, | 2040.8176 |
1418 | | 2041.9341 | I have a friend who has a daughter who goes to Brighton. You know, she's getting everything she needs, and she went out of her way to put her into Brighton, just for that reason. | 2050.6099 |
1420 | | 2051.1204 | You know, she's in accelerated math, and she's | 2053.5937 |
1422 | | 2054.0214 | in all these advanced classes. | 2055.4404 |
1424 | | 2055.5338 | I have no doubt that when she graduates, she's gonna be where she needs to be. | 2059.2870 |
1426 | | 2060.0159 | Why can't that be the same in every school no matter what district? | 2064.4255 |
1428 | | 2065.5864 | It's- I think that | 2066.9255 |
1430 | | 2067.4692 | plays a huge part. Um, | 2069.2183 |
1432 | | 2069.4130 | and experiences. I don't think a lot of kids here even know- | 2073.0390 |
1434 | | 2073.8474 | like, I was talking about college, what to look forward to. I don't think a lot of kids even realize that the corner is | 2079.9986 |
1436 | | 2080.0932 | just like | 2080.8496 |
1438 | | 2081.2339 | a small dot on the map. Like, there's so much more | 2085.2767 |
1440 | | 2085.9007 | to life than Rochester. | 2087.9005 |
1442 | | 2088.7381 | I think we're just stuck. | 2089.8916 |
1444 | | 2090.2367 | Not- I shouldn't say we, but, you know what I mean, when I say we, I [think] | 2093.4797 |
1445 | ROC_int_01 | 2093.1110 | [Mm-hm.] | 2093.4372 |
1446 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2093.6783 | a lot of people are just stuck in their circumstances here because they don't know that there's more out there | 2099.1819 |
1448 | | 2099.6736 | that what they're in, so. | 2100.7041 |
1450 | | 2101.2226 | <ts> | 2101.2827 |
1452 | | 2101.6505 | I don't know what it would take, but | 2103.1302 |
1454 | | 2103.4422 | that's a start. [<laugh>] | 2105.0353 |
1455 | ROC_int_01 | 2104.7659 | [Yeah.] | 2105.0968 |
1456 | | 2105.3521 | Right. | 2105.7728 |
1458 | | 2105.9174 | Okay, so, | 2106.9575 |
1460 | | 2107.1513 | we've talked a little bit about, uh, segregation as well as like, um, | 2111.4000 |
1462 | | 2112.0025 | and how it | 2112.6738 |
1464 | | 2113.3262 | kind of is more so by economic, | 2115.6994 |
1466 | | 2116.2439 | um, circumstances. Um, | 2118.7542 |
1468 | | 2119.4964 | h- what is your take on, I guess, | 2121.7325 |
1470 | | 2121.9186 | diversity here in Rochester? Do you think this is a diverse place to live? | 2126.0873 |
1471 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2126.2481 | It's very diverse, | 2127.8285 |
1473 | | 2128.3763 | but depending on where you're from, your experience with | 2132.3471 |
1475 | | 2132.5121 | diversity varies. | 2134.1277 |
1477 | | 2134.6004 | Um, | 2135.0826 |
1479 | | 2135.8276 | even in nursing school, like I experienced so much | 2138.9643 |
1481 | | 2139.4591 | flack, you know. | 2140.4330 |
1483 | | 2141.2083 | Thank god my name is /RD-NAME-3/, because <laugh> that has gotten me through so many doors on paper. | 2146.6051 |
1485 | | 2147.1110 | And then I get there and have to prove myself extra hard, you know. | 2149.8966 |
1487 | | 2150.2544 | I'd have the same ideas and the same- I'd say, hey guys, | 2153.8532 |
1489 | | 2154.2322 | we should do this. Oh no, because that's not right. | 2157.3855 |
1491 | | 2158.1182 | And don't you know on every project, the teacher would comment, | 2160.4394 |
1493 | | 2160.8326 | you should've done this. | 2161.9814 |
1495 | | 2163.0687 | I don't know if it was because I'm black or what, but when you're the only black girl in the group and everybody ignores your comment, input, | 2169.0477 |
1497 | | 2169.4044 | and thoughts and ideas, you can't help but wonder, you know, did you th- think that I was ignorant cause I went to a city school? Or what was it, you know? | 2176.5531 |
1499 | | 2177.0117 | Um, | 2177.4703 |
1501 | | 2178.1227 | <ts> a lot of girls that I went to nursing school with, | 2180.1563 |
1503 | | 2180.4731 | most- | 2181.0356 |
1505 | | 2181.8960 | most of all, | 2183.3426 |
1507 | | 2184.0403 | yeah, all of them- | 2185.2128 |
1509 | | 2185.8841 | none of them went to a city school. | 2187.9122 |
1511 | | 2188.5512 | So, you know, I'm only- I'm one of the few people, with the exception of maybe the older women who were like in their fifties, | 2195.2981 |
1513 | | 2195.9033 | which obviously they lived in a totally different time frame, so | 2199.4252 |
1515 | | 2199.8326 | if you- you can't even really- | 2201.5251 |
1517 | | 2202.5415 | Cause race in that time obviously was a huge- | 2206.0993 |
1519 | | 2206.7281 | there was a huge difference. | 2207.9383 |
1521 | | 2208.7617 | Um, | 2209.2675 |
1523 | | 2210.3785 | so resources probably were a l- I don't know. I didn't live then, so I can't really speak on that but obviously, you know, white people weren't, | 2217.0744 |
1525 | | 2217.1881 | um, | 2217.5734 |
1527 | | 2217.8137 | left behind. <laugh> In the fifties, you were the- | 2220.6823 |
1529 | | 2220.7840 | the forethought. | 2221.7233 |
1531 | | 2222.4071 | Um, but with the exception of them, | 2224.6174 |
1533 | | 2225.4352 | the girls that were my age or maybe a few years older, you know, | 2229.1085 |
1535 | | 2229.7428 | <ts> they were very naive to things | 2231.8607 |
1537 | | 2232.3287 | as far as life wa- went in the city or | 2234.8721 |
1539 | | 2235.0848 | what | 2235.4063 |
1541 | | 2235.8799 | their idea of city schools were. And | 2237.9931 |
1543 | | 2238.5226 | like, | 2238.7826 |
1545 | | 2239.0898 | I- | 2239.3499 |
1547 | | 2239.6146 | <exhale> even work. I worked with a girl who went | 2242.4019 |
1549 | | 2242.5910 | one time, | 2243.2717 |
1551 | | 2243.6387 | oh my god, I don't think I could live in the city. Everyday there's a shooting, and | 2248.0237 |
1553 | | 2248.4870 | I just couldn't handle it, | 2249.9411 |
1555 | | 2250.2436 | you know. I was (laughing) like what? <laugh> | 2251.8179 |
1557 | | 2252.2386 | What is she talking about? <laugh> I'm like, I've never | 2254.9266 |
1559 | | 2255.2575 | personally witnessed anybody get shot. | 2257.2345 |
1561 | | 2257.5701 | I've never- | 2258.3170 |
1563 | | 2258.5581 | I've heard gunshots, but, I mean | 2260.3357 |
1565 | | 2260.5892 | if you live in the country, you can hear gunshots too. People go hunting all the time. What's the difference, right? | 2265.2000 |
1567 | | 2265.7256 | So I turned to her, and I said, okay well, | 2267.8056 |
1569 | | 2268.1271 | I've never actually walked out of my house and gotten shot before, so I don't really see what the difference is, you know. | 2273.6402 |
1571 | | 2274.2642 | Mind you, we just had a huge story | 2276.2119 |
1573 | | 2276.5334 | at that time | 2277.4505 |
1575 | | 2277.8469 | about how people were breaking and entering into city- uh, suburb houses, stealing things during Christmas. | 2284.0234 |
1577 | | 2284.5103 | Like just walking into people's houses, stealing things while they were sleep, so | 2288.0181 |
1579 | | 2288.3896 | what's the difference, you know? | 2289.5337 |
1581 | | 2290.6852 | What's the difference? | 2291.5078 |
1583 | | 2291.6260 | I don't really think there is a big one, other than | 2293.6588 |
1585 | | 2294.4956 | the experience | 2295.6830 |
1587 | | 2296.3165 | and | 2296.8601 |
1589 | | 2297.6922 | <ts> fear will make people make up stories and | 2300.3348 |
1591 | | 2301.0023 | tend to stay away. | 2302.0565 |
1593 | | 2303.1863 | So I don't know. | 2304.1035 |
1595 | | 2305.1813 | I don't think, um, | 2306.4058 |
1597 | | 2306.7328 | outside of the city, diversity is experienced | 2309.9002 |
1599 | | 2310.0987 | the way it is inside of the city. | 2312.1552 |
1601 | | 2314.1605 | It's- it's a different take depending on where you come from I guess, | 2317.3610 |
1603 | | 2317.7999 | /so./ | 2318.2025 |
1604 | ROC_int_01 | 2318.5523 | Mm-hm. | 2319.0723 |
1606 | | 2319.6972 | Yeah. | 2320.0754 |
1608 | | 2320.9311 | Yeah, | 2321.4227 |
1610 | | 2321.8151 | <laugh> I agree. I think it is | 2323.9094 |
1612 | | 2324.8104 | different across the city, but | 2326.5595 |
1614 | | 2327.4274 | also too, um, | 2329.3184 |
1616 | | 2329.7817 | I think it's interesting because | 2331.7823 |
1618 | | 2333.8293 | w- I feel like we interact with, | 2336.0417 |
1620 | | 2337.2878 | you know, people in the suburbs all the time cause that's where our grocery stores are. That's where | 2341.5548 |
1621 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2341.5816 | [Mm-hm.] | 2342.5537 |
1622 | ROC_int_01 | 2342.3457 | [any] t- kind of | 2343.4283 |
1623 | | 2343.5937 | commerce, [right.] (laughing) | 2344.8363 |
1624 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2344.4203 | [Mm-hm.] | 2345.3421 |
1625 | ROC_int_01 | 2345.2665 | [And] business dealings happen, and they don't happen actually in our- | 2348.4497 |
1626 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2348.5738 | [Mm-hm.] | 2349.3810 |
1627 | ROC_int_01 | 2348.7322 | [downtown.] | 2349.6552 |
1628 | | 2349.8187 | Yet, you know, they have more of a choice as to whether or not | 2352.6883 |
1630 | | 2353.8852 | they want to interact with city | 2355.6355 |
1632 | | 2355.7324 | residents. | 2356.3777 |
1633 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2355.8908 | [<ts>] | 2355.9420 |
1634 | | 2356.6413 | This is true. | 2357.4686 |
1636 | | 2357.7333 | And you can almost kind of see, you know, somebody scooting over, looking at you twice when you go into the store. | 2363.8590 |
1638 | | 2364.1190 | Not- and I'm not saying this happen a- | 2365.7498 |
1640 | | 2365.8588 | this happens all the time, but | 2367.5039 |
1642 | | 2367.9192 | you get | 2368.5030 |
1644 | | 2368.7500 | people who, you know, kind of look at you- especially my hair. | 2371.8162 |
1646 | | 2372.1330 | I change my hair up all the time. | 2373.8443 |
1648 | | 2374.1213 | So depending on how I look when I go somewhere, I get treated different, | 2377.8938 |
1650 | | 2378.1499 | even at work. | 2379.0670 |
1652 | | 2379.7918 | <ts> It pisses me off when people think they can stick their hands in my hair. Like, | 2383.6858 |
1654 | | 2384.0379 | okay, | 2384.7083 |
1656 | | 2385.0971 | even if my hair did grow eighteen inches overnight, | 2387.4611 |
1658 | | 2387.8692 | that doesn't give you the right (laughing) stick your hand in my- your hand in my hair and try to feel it, you know. | 2392.6716 |
1660 | | 2392.9836 | I /wouldn't/ coming to work /if/ like, oh my god, it's curly today, and | 2395.4427 |
1662 | | 2395.7756 | /you know./ | 2396.0827 |
1664 | | 2396.6671 | So again, diversity, experiencing things and just- | 2399.8487 |
1666 | | 2400.2876 | but again | 2401.0642 |
1668 | | 2401.1988 | a lot of that is upbringing and how you were raised. | 2403.6382 |
1670 | | 2404.1449 | What your family instills in you is usually what you kind of | 2407.3501 |
1672 | | 2408.1112 | branch off of. | 2409.3687 |
1674 | | 2409.7856 | So, a lot of it is kind of old school ideology and people not really realizing that | 2415.1040 |
1676 | | 2415.4830 | what their grandparents | 2416.7878 |
1678 | | 2417.4686 | learned or taught them isn't necessarily the truth about | 2420.7589 |
1680 | | 2421.6268 | minorities | 2422.5676 |
1682 | | 2422.7531 | or diversity in general, so. | 2424.3640 |
1684 | | 2424.6552 | <ts> | 2424.7139 |
1685 | ROC_int_01 | 2424.9624 | Yeah. | 2425.5014 |
1686 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2425.6523 | Yeah. | 2426.3712 |
1687 | ROC_int_01 | 2426.5131 | Yeah. | 2426.9811 |
1689 | | 2427.1115 | So it would make sense that, you know, the girl in your class | 2430.2269 |
1691 | | 2430.7497 | would say something like that about shootings in Rochester if you | 2433.8206 |
1693 | | 2434.0097 | really have no | 2435.5982 |
1695 | | 2436.2695 | kind of, um, | 2437.2914 |
1697 | | 2437.6223 | interaction with- | 2438.7522 |
1698 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2439.3290 | Which, not to say that it doesn't happen, | 2441.9196 |
1700 | | 2442.1300 | [but] | 2442.5673 |
1701 | ROC_int_01 | 2442.3924 | [Mm-hm.] | 2442.8840 |
1702 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2443.0003 | again, you can't assume that just because you live in the city. | 2446.4143 |
1704 | | 2446.6082 | Let's think about | 2447.3456 |
1706 | | 2447.5395 | Park Ave, you know, | 2448.6972 |
1708 | | 2448.7739 | nobody's gonna say, oh, Park Ave, it's dangerous. But it's smack dab in the middle of the city, you know. | 2454.7753 |
1710 | | 2455.5628 | [So], | 2455.9363 |
1711 | ROC_int_01 | 2455.6810 | [Mm-hm.] | 2456.1869 |
1712 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2456.7806 | it just depends, I don't know. | 2458.3501 |
1714 | | 2458.7519 | I think any city you live in, it's- | 2460.5295 |
1716 | | 2461.2111 | it's dangerous. | 2462.2775 |
1718 | | 2462.3693 | New York City is horrible, but people don't go, oh my god, | 2465.8960 |
1720 | | 2466.4916 | New York City, you know. People run there to live there, and | 2470.0239 |
1722 | | 2471.0923 | I guess you'd watch out. I don't know. | 2472.9171 |
1724 | | 2473.1874 | New York City is sketchy to me no matter where you are, [whether you're in Manhattan or like] | 2477.4421 |
1725 | ROC_int_01 | 2475.8443 | [Yeah.] | 2476.2745 |
1727 | | 2476.6479 | [<laugh>] | 2477.3429 |
1728 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2477.6832 | in the B- in Brooklyn. Sometimes I feel safer in Brooklyn than in Manhattan, so. (laughing) | 2482.0381 |
1730 | | 2482.9552 | I really think it's just upbringing, | 2484.6902 |
1731 | ROC_int_01 | 2485.0212 | Mm-hm. | 2485.4826 |
1732 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2485.9675 | how people view each other. | 2487.6599 |
1733 | ROC_int_01 | 2488.1705 | Yeah. | 2488.5865 |
1735 | | 2488.8276 | Okay, cool. | 2489.8393 |
1737 | | 2490.1540 | So, um, my last, uh, question usually revolves around language stuff, | 2495.0478 |
1738 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2495.1235 | [Mm-hm.] | 2495.6435 |
1739 | ROC_int_01 | 2495.5064 | [and] so- or | 2496.7923 |
1740 | | 2497.6999 | f- couple questions, because I mean we started talking about this a little bit before, but first I'll start off on, um, | 2503.6527 |
1742 | | 2503.8768 | <ts> | 2503.9626 |
1744 | | 2504.3490 | do you perceive, or has anyone ever told you | 2507.1315 |
1746 | | 2507.4483 | that you have | 2508.4789 |
1748 | | 2508.5923 | a Rochesterian accent? | 2510.4786 |
1749 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2511.5005 | <ts> | 2511.5775 |
1751 | | 2511.8977 | It depends on where I am. So when I'll go | 2514.5167 |
1753 | | 2515.9802 | like in Canada, sometimes people say, oh you sound country. | 2519.1051 |
1755 | | 2519.4321 | Or other places, like I've been to Jersey. | 2521.8290 |
1757 | | 2522.0748 | When I go to the city, people say, oh you sound country, or oh you sound like- | 2526.7389 |
1759 | | 2526.8901 | you don't sound like- even in Buffalo people actually say, you know, you don't | 2530.2144 |
1761 | | 2530.6588 | sound like you're from | 2532.0108 |
1763 | | 2532.1337 | New York. | 2532.7956 |
1765 | | 2533.1832 | But when I go down south, people are like, oh my god, you- I can tell you're from New York. I'm like how? Cause you said son. <laugh> | 2539.2731 |
1766 | ROC_int_01 | 2539.3834 | [<laugh>] | 2540.2343 |
1767 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2539.5087 | [You know, so] | 2540.1942 |
1768 | | 2540.5078 | certain words that you say, you don't even realize, um, | 2543.6610 |
1770 | | 2544.0628 | that you say these things, | 2545.3534 |
1772 | | 2545.8573 | like pop. | 2546.5665 |
1774 | | 2547.4221 | Um, I went to New York City and asked for pop, and the lady was like, | 2551.2920 |
1776 | | 2551.5804 | excuse me? | 2552.2942 |
1778 | | 2552.4955 | And I said, pop. Y'all don't have pop? Like I | 2554.6919 |
1780 | | 2554.7971 | just need a fizz. I need something- | 2556.8145 |
1782 | | 2557.1076 | you know, I don't want water, I want some pop. | 2558.8860 |
1784 | | 2559.3445 | She was like, what is pop? | 2560.5690 |
1786 | | 2560.7202 | You know, to drink, like a coke. | 2562.1905 |
1788 | | 2562.6396 | Oh, you mean soda. | 2563.8262 |
1790 | | 2565.0144 | Oh, I didn't know you said soda. Like, I didn't know that some people said soda, some people said pop. I just always called it pop. | 2571.2639 |
1792 | | 2571.5970 | Things like that, um, | 2573.0058 |
1794 | | 2574.1176 | <ts> but other than that, | 2575.2664 |
1796 | | 2575.7391 | it just depends on where I am. Sometimes I get I sound country, | 2578.8025 |
1798 | | 2579.2186 | and then if I'm east, like if I'm e- on the East Coast, | 2582.3679 |
1800 | | 2583.6159 | not quite | 2584.4691 |
1802 | | 2584.5849 | south, but East Coast-ish, | 2586.9638 |
1804 | | 2587.1435 | people say I sound country. And if I go up north or down south, people say I sound like- | 2591.8265 |
1806 | | 2591.9683 | No, up north sometimes in Canada they say I sound country. | 2595.3067 |
1808 | | 2595.7227 | And then sometimes they say, we can tell you're from New York. So it just depends, I guess. | 2599.3062 |
1809 | ROC_int_01 | 2599.3345 | Yeah. | 2599.9538 |
1811 | | 2600.4747 | The New York thing, I could <exhale> | 2602.5028 |
1813 | | 2602.7581 | see a little bit more, because it's like, that's | 2605.1927 |
1815 | | 2605.4196 | mostly to me sounding like | 2607.2547 |
1817 | | 2607.4202 | using certain like | 2608.5028 |
1819 | | 2609.0370 | lexical | 2609.9683 |
1821 | | 2610.1385 | things, [like saying son and whatever, like] | 2612.5854 |
1822 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2610.6632 | [Mm-hm.] | 2611.8498 |
1824 | | 2612.0275 | [Right.] | 2612.7792 |
1825 | ROC_int_01 | 2612.8028 | that's how people- | 2613.5486 |
1827 | | 2613.6471 | But the southern thing, to me, | 2615.2261 |
1829 | | 2615.5003 | is harder | 2616.3796 |
1830 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2616.4458 | Mm-hm. | 2617.0293 |
1831 | ROC_int_01 | 2617.0429 | to understand what people | 2619.3088 |
1833 | | 2619.6634 | mean by southern. Like, is it the way I pronounce certain words? | 2623.2665 |
1834 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2623.4415 | Y'all or hey y'all, you know, but that's because my family is from down south. | 2628.4223 |
1836 | | 2628.6283 | So my family, | 2629.9508 |
1838 | | 2630.0619 | when we talk to each other | 2631.7437 |
1840 | | 2631.8694 | like, talking about, | 2632.9485 |
1842 | | 2633.0407 | or, you know, certain things that we say to each other. | 2635.8811 |
1844 | | 2636.3728 | It probably won't come out here cause I'm tryna be proper so you can understand me, but | 2639.8691 |
1846 | | 2640.3482 | when we talk to each other, you can hear it, | 2642.9732 |
1848 | | 2643.2095 | and so if I'm somewhere and I'm comfortable, | 2645.5571 |
1850 | | 2645.8408 | it comes out. | 2646.8241 |
1852 | | 2647.5341 | But | 2648.1817 |
1854 | | 2648.5646 | when I'm conscious of it, I probably sound more like | 2651.3113 |
1856 | | 2651.4909 | a New Yorker than anything. | 2653.0146 |
1858 | | 2653.1226 | [<laugh>] | 2654.0231 |
1859 | ROC_int_01 | 2653.3637 | [Mm-hm.] | 2654.0026 |
1860 | | 2654.2690 | What part of the South are your, uh, | 2655.7676 |
1862 | | 2656.0552 | folks from? | 2656.6508 |
1863 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2656.9250 | Alabama, | 2658.1778 |
1865 | | 2658.3338 | Florida, m- f- Florida and Alabama | 2660.6361 |
1867 | | 2660.7382 | mostly, yeah. | 2661.6080 |
1869 | | 2662.0615 | [So], | 2662.5000 |
1870 | ROC_int_01 | 2662.0808 | [Yeah.] | 2662.5732 |
1871 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2662.7489 | [country.] | 2663.2477 |
1872 | ROC_int_01 | 2662.8884 | [Right.] | 2663.3777 |
1873 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2663.3966 | [<laugh>] | 2663.9875 |
1874 | ROC_int_01 | 2663.5337 | [So many] of our family members are from the South, | 2666.5605 |
1875 | | 2667.4615 | and so I also wonder how much that feeds in too. | 2670.2866 |
1876 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2670.8633 | A l- a [lot], I'm sure, you know, um, | 2673.9768 |
1877 | ROC_int_01 | 2671.4164 | [/?/] | 2671.7048 |
1878 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2675.3080 | a lot cause sometimes I'm talking to people and they're like, what did you say? And I'm like, oh you- I gotta say it the right way cause they don't know what I'm talking about. <laugh> You [know what I'm talking about], um, they don't know what I'm talking | 2685.6978 |
1879 | ROC_int_01 | 2683.1403 | [Mm-hm.] | 2683.7407 |
1880 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2685.9153 | about. <laugh> | 2687.1445 |
1882 | | 2687.4545 | So, | 2687.8753 |
1884 | | 2688.1164 | it depends, um, | 2689.4070 |
1886 | | 2689.7946 | but I think it- | 2690.5794 |
1888 | | 2691.1333 | here I feel like a lot of people are from down south. A lot of people have come up | 2695.0146 |
1890 | | 2695.5772 | to Rochester in particular because of job opportunities and different things at the time, so | 2700.1542 |
1892 | | 2700.7735 | most of everybody I know has roots somewhere else. They aren't actually born here. I can't trace anybody back that I know of that was just- has always been here, | 2709.7999 |
1894 | | 2710.4334 | which | 2710.8683 |
1896 | | 2711.7902 | makes sense in history. | 2713.6292 |
1898 | | 2714.4364 | <ts> Unless somebody's family was an indentured servant, I don't really know anybody that was | 2718.7810 |
1900 | | 2719.0079 | born and just | 2719.9487 |
1902 | | 2720.0385 | bred here. | 2720.7949 |
1903 | ROC_int_01 | 2720.9509 | Mm-hm. | 2721.6364 |
1904 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2721.6411 | Yeah. | 2722.0240 |
1905 | ROC_int_01 | 2722.1139 | Right. | 2722.5772 |
1906 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2722.6619 | If that makes [sense.] | 2723.5557 |
1907 | ROC_int_01 | 2723.4423 | [Now] do the people in like, say for instance, your program, do, | 2727.7451 |
1908 | | 2728.1545 | uh, like the white girls in your program, or men too, | 2731.1564 |
1910 | | 2731.4070 | um, | 2731.9270 |
1912 | | 2732.0468 | <ts> shouldn't just gender it, | 2733.1967 |
1914 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2733.2103 | [<laugh>] | 2733.9909 |
1915 | ROC_int_01 | 2733.2925 | [but <laugh>] | 2733.8633 |
1916 | | 2734.2476 | do they- do you think that | 2736.2190 |
1918 | | 2736.3277 | the people who live like in the [suburbs] | 2738.4764 |
1919 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2738.3019 | [Mm-hm.] | 2738.7651 |
1920 | ROC_int_01 | 2738.8881 | sound different | 2739.9344 |
1922 | | 2740.0526 | from- | 2740.5010 |
1923 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2740.9548 | Of course they do. | 2742.1508 |
1924 | ROC_int_01 | 2742.3636 | Yeah. | 2742.6390 |
1925 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2742.6472 | They sound like each other. | 2744.1486 |
1927 | | 2744.2526 | They sound like, | 2745.5466 |
1929 | | 2746.8088 | um, (breathy) | 2747.9670 |
1931 | | 2748.6912 | <ts> | 2748.7940 |
1933 | | 2749.4428 | very polished and proper. | 2751.9248 |
1935 | | 2752.0571 | <laugh> | 2752.7407 |
1936 | ROC_int_01 | 2752.7501 | Mm-hm. | 2753.2087 |
1937 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2753.5573 | Um, and I don't know- | 2755.1970 |
1939 | | 2755.5752 | with the exception of- I can always tell when somebody either has- | 2758.9506 |
1941 | | 2759.4195 | they're foreigners or their family members are f- | 2762.6342 |
1943 | | 2762.8942 | of a foreign, you know, background. | 2764.6575 |
1945 | | 2765.2248 | Because obviously, a second language, you didn't learn it first. | 2768.5633 |
1947 | | 2769.5844 | But most people that I've encountered, | 2771.9718 |
1949 | | 2773.0363 | <ts> men and women, | 2774.1898 |
1951 | | 2774.4923 | they kind of- | 2775.3244 |
1953 | | 2776.7237 | I don't know. | 2777.3856 |
1955 | | 2777.6881 | It's like there's no twang. I don't know if it's a minority thing or what is it, | 2782.1706 |
1957 | | 2782.7001 | but it's like almost like, I hate to say white people. | 2785.8399 |
1959 | | 2786.1189 | And I'm not even saying white people. I'm really saying like | 2788.8608 |
1961 | | 2789.5692 | English. | 2790.3634 |
1963 | | 2791.3424 | I don't know, you c- can't really generalize it either. | 2793.5371 |
1965 | | 2794.9081 | I- I- minorities, I don't know. Anybody that speaks a second language other than English. | 2799.7829 |
1967 | | 2801.0972 | They have a twang with everything, | 2803.0268 |
1969 | | 2803.1497 | so, | 2803.6698 |
1971 | | 2803.9392 | people that only know English and speak English, and especially live in the suburbs, they just kind of sound like very polished, proper, and | 2812.0571 |
1973 | | 2812.3833 | punctuated. [<laugh>] | 2813.8252 |
1974 | ROC_int_01 | 2813.5491 | [Mm-hm.] | 2813.9840 |
1975 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2814.3669 | If that makes sense /?/ | 2815.5747 |
1977 | | 2816.0290 | And they don't get a lot of my references like <laugh> | 2818.8183 |
1979 | | 2819.3052 | jokes or, | 2820.0994 |
1981 | | 2820.5399 | um, I can't think of anything right now, but. | 2823.1495 |
1983 | | 2823.9626 | Things I would say, they'd be like who- | 2825.5613 |
1985 | | 2826.1570 | if I were to say, who shot John? You know, you know what I'm talking about. | 2829.3906 |
1986 | ROC_int_01 | 2829.4059 | [Mm-hm.] | 2829.9590 |
1987 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2829.7829 | [If I said] that, they're like, sh- John got shot? Who shot John? Like what happened? | 2834.2343 |
1988 | | 2834.5037 | You know, references, | 2835.8377 |
1990 | | 2836.2963 | which are obviously cultural references, but | 2839.2273 |
1992 | | 2840.7534 | it's boring. I don't know. I don't know, I could- I don't have another way to describe, it's like there's almost no subculture within their culture, you [know], | 2848.0193 |
1993 | ROC_int_01 | 2847.9484 | [Mm.] | 2848.3120 |
1994 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2848.3171 | which is | 2848.8608 |
1996 | | 2849.9353 | kind of- | 2850.6208 |
1998 | | 2851.3497 | Mm I just hit a point. Maybe that's why it's hard for some people to understand diversity, cause they have no | 2857.8650 |
2000 | | 2858.5268 | diversity even within- amongst themselves. There's no like, | 2862.0062 |
2002 | | 2863.0983 | s- | 2863.3057 |
2004 | | 2863.8018 | separation. They're all the same. [<laugh>] | 2866.1262 |
2005 | ROC_int_01 | 2865.9280 | [Well], yeah or their culture is the default. | 2868.4167 |
2006 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2868.5245 | <ts> Yeah. (breathy) There you go. | 2870.3784 |
2007 | ROC_int_01 | 2870.5404 | You know, like, it's just the way things are | 2873.2024 |
2009 | | 2873.2983 | considered to be normal [/or/] | 2875.1296 |
2010 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2874.6350 | [Yeah,] | 2875.4840 |
2011 | | 2875.6266 | so. | 2876.0901 |
2012 | ROC_int_01 | 2876.0974 | way of life kind of, maybe. | 2877.5977 |
2014 | | 2877.9481 | [Yeah.] | 2878.2641 |
2015 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2878.0697 | [Yeah.] | 2878.4796 |
2016 | ROC_int_01 | 2879.0523 | Yeah. | 2879.4606 |
2018 | | 2880.2474 | Uh, you brought up- uh, know, um, we were talking right before the interview sort of about this, talking white versus talking black. | 2887.3527 |
2020 | | 2887.7474 | When you get comme- comments about, uh, | 2890.2490 |
2022 | | 2890.5044 | you sound white [maybe,] | 2892.0403 |
2023 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2891.6126 | [Mm-hm.] | 2892.1829 |
2024 | ROC_int_01 | 2892.4486 | who do you get them from? | 2893.7377 |
2025 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2894.3015 | Black people, | 2895.2024 |
2027 | | 2895.6852 | and it pisses me off cause I'm like, what do you mean? Am I supposed to sound smart talking stupid? | 2901.3352 |
2029 | | 2901.6074 | Like, | 2902.1162 |
2031 | | 2902.8446 | if I'm at home and comfortable, okay, it's one thing for me to break everything down, but if I'm tryna convey an idea or get you to understand my point, | 2909.7163 |
2033 | | 2910.1440 | if I don't communicate clearly, how will you know what the hell I'm talking about? <laugh> You know what I mean, | 2914.9418 |
2035 | | 2915.5121 | and I don't get- | 2916.3093 |
2037 | | 2917.2516 | I don't- | 2917.6826 |
2039 | | 2918.2464 | I do know where it came from. I know the history of our people, and I know it came from | 2923.1842 |
2041 | | 2924.1006 | us constantly being told we need to dumb ourselves down to get by. | 2928.3903 |
2043 | | 2928.8731 | Unfortunately, so many people have missed that, and | 2931.9380 |
2045 | | 2932.5784 | <ts> I actually was just talking to a patient about this today. | 2935.0741 |
2047 | | 2935.5562 | Because my parents and my grandparents are like, direct- | 2938.7312 |
2049 | | 2938.8359 | you know, was | 2939.4694 |
2051 | | 2939.8733 | /m-/ in the heat | 2940.8552 |
2053 | | 2941.0172 | of the fire, you know, Civil Rights Movement, | 2943.3691 |
2055 | | 2943.8876 | took trips down south and had to pack lunches for two days cause they couldn't pull over to eat, or | 2948.1351 |
2057 | | 2948.4585 | even having to stop on the side of the road and pee because, bring toilet paper, we can't stop anywhere. | 2953.6782 |
2058 | ROC_int_01 | 2953.9342 | Mm. | 2954.1189 |
2059 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 2954.1226 | You know, having those stories like, fresh in my mind from people that I know and see every day, | 2959.6426 |
2061 | | 2960.9386 | it- I grew up with a different perspective I guess. So my grandma always inputted into me, you know, knowledge is power, read, | 2967.4727 |
2063 | | 2967.6098 | grow, you know, don't be ignorant, and ignorant doesn't mean | 2970.9814 |
2065 | | 2971.9681 | not | 2972.4451 |
2067 | | 2972.8162 | talking proper. Ignorant means, you know, you don't strive for more, you don't wanna learn anything, you s- you're content being where you are, | 2981.2121 |
2069 | | 2981.9963 | <ts> which a lot of people- | 2983.0397 |
2071 | | 2984.0766 | Vocab and just being able to communicate | 2987.0460 |
2073 | | 2987.2729 | overall, | 2988.2580 |
2075 | | 2989.5852 | it's- it's like a breakdown, I don't know. I- it's sad. | 2992.8257 |
2077 | | 2993.5710 | I don't- I don't know- | 2995.1315 |
2079 | | 2996.4212 | I can't like, mark a specific group, but I just feel like maybe | 3000.5862 |
2081 | | 3000.7903 | the ninety-ish babies | 3002.8879 |
2083 | | 3003.0126 | kind of have lost their | 3004.7787 |
2085 | | 3005.3759 | sense of pride, you know, in education and | 3008.5256 |
2087 | | 3008.9923 | learning how to speak. | 3009.7751 |
2089 | | 3010.0926 | Even dressing, um, | 3011.3759 |
2091 | | 3012.1147 | you know, back in the day, | 3013.7220 |
2093 | | 3014.2729 | you only had two pair of pants, | 3015.8024 |
2095 | | 3016.1056 | those two pair of pants better be polished and clean every day, even if those were the only two pair of pants you had. | 3021.3033 |
2097 | | 3021.7751 | Nowadays it's like, | 3022.9889 |
2099 | | 3024.2508 | nobody cares, people walk around with bonnets on their head, and | 3027.5367 |
2101 | | 3028.6565 | there's no sense of pride in anything. They're just so used to being, you know, | 3033.4654 |
2103 | | 3033.9241 | one way. | 3034.8055 |
2105 | | 3035.3305 | So, even with the language now. | 3037.5405 |
2107 | | 3037.8322 | But it frustrates me again cause I try to make the point of, | 3040.7926 |
2109 | | 3041.1814 | well, who said talking proper equates to being a white girl? | 3044.8432 |
2111 | | 3045.0182 | Like, | 3045.4654 |
2113 | | 3046.0862 | but again, that idea of | 3047.9397 |
2115 | | 3048.9313 | back in the day, most people didn't have educations past the tenth grade | 3052.4556 |
2117 | | 3053.2138 | if you were black. | 3054.3610 |
2119 | | 3054.5489 | If you were white obviously you were going on and graduating, going to college, so you did have a bit more of- of a built up vocab, and you did have proper, | 3062.8367 |
2121 | | 3063.3811 | I guess, | 3064.0357 |
2123 | | 3064.1338 | English. | 3064.8014 |
2125 | | 3066.1034 | Made a difference, but that don't mean | 3068.1507 |
2127 | | 3069.1131 | you can't, you know, | 3070.2473 |
2129 | | 3070.5972 | be smart | 3071.2576 |
2131 | | 3071.9154 | and | 3072.2427 |
2133 | | 3072.3723 | not talk proper cause | 3073.7974 |
2135 | | 3073.9828 | trust me I'm- | 3074.8645 |
2137 | | 3074.9942 | <laugh> | 3075.9311 |
2139 | | 3076.2941 | I- I, uh, | 3077.6583 |
2141 | | 3078.1729 | I, uh, have to concentrate to talk sometimes. <laugh> | 3082.1418 |
2143 | | 3082.4107 | [Not-] | 3082.8320 |
2144 | ROC_int_01 | 3082.5501 | [/unintelligible/] | 3083.6583 |
2145 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3083.1897 | [<laugh>] | 3083.5332 |
2146 | ROC_int_01 | 3083.8232 | You turn it on and off, [right?] | 3085.5951 |
2147 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3085.2257 | [Yeah, yeah.] | 3086.6296 |
2148 | ROC_int_01 | 3086.1000 | [Like], | 3086.3930 |
2149 | | 3086.6341 | and | 3087.2168 |
2151 | | 3087.4242 | some people, I guess may turn it on and off more than [others.] | 3091.5357 |
2152 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3091.1889 | [Mm-hm] | 3092.1625 |
2153 | ROC_int_01 | 3091.9699 | [Um], | 3092.3312 |
2154 | | 3092.9755 | uh, but whether or not, you know, you're speaking what I- what I guess I- we would call African American English, | 3098.4959 |
2155 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3098.5437 | [Mm-hm.] | 3099.3069 |
2156 | ROC_int_01 | 3099.0817 | [um], or not like, you know, you're all capable of- | 3102.2539 |
2157 | | 3102.7108 | um, | 3103.1936 |
2159 | | 3104.4412 | of complex thought. | 3105.7108 |
2160 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3105.8080 | [Right.] | 3106.6751 |
2161 | ROC_int_01 | 3106.4762 | [Yeah.] | 3106.7095 |
2162 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3106.7423 | Right. | 3107.3407 |
2164 | | 3107.8352 | And sometimes simple is best. Sometimes if you say it dumbed down, | 3111.6680 |
2166 | | 3112.0638 | more people will understand you, you know what I mean. It doesn't necessarily have to be a slew of words | 3116.9297 |
2168 | | 3117.1111 | for somebody to get that you're smart. | 3118.9063 |
2170 | | 3119.2166 | I just feel like if you can connect with somebody and communicate, | 3122.0691 |
2172 | | 3122.8454 | no matter how you say it, as long as it's effective communication. Effective communication doesn't mean use a huge | 3129.2926 |
2174 | | 3129.9472 | vocab, | 3130.8415 |
2176 | | 3131.2110 | you know, in a sentence. | 3132.4747 |
2178 | | 3133.1099 | It just needs to be | 3134.2894 |
2180 | | 3134.6963 | point clear, and | 3135.9083 |
2182 | | 3136.6406 | everybody understands, so. | 3138.0600 |
2183 | ROC_int_01 | 3138.3691 | Yeah. | 3138.6964 |
2184 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3138.5185 | [<ts>] | 3138.6004 |
2185 | | 3139.2482 | That mighta been because I took | 3140.6562 |
2187 | | 3140.8538 | IPC classes, <laugh> interpersonal communication classes, so | 3144.8024 |
2188 | ROC_int_01 | 3145.1144 | Mm-hm. | 3145.4676 |
2189 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3145.4729 | that helped too. | 3146.1935 |
2191 | | 3146.2794 | [<laugh>] | 3147.3014 |
2192 | ROC_int_01 | 3147.0389 | [Yeah.] | 3147.4375 |
2193 | | 3147.6571 | [Yeah.] | 3148.0363 |
2194 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3147.9034 | [<laugh>] | 3148.2501 |
2195 | | 3149.0019 | [Yeah.] | 3149.5075 |
2196 | ROC_int_01 | 3149.3940 | [Yeah.] | 3149.7829 |
2197 | | 3150.0324 | Okay, well, um, | 3151.5710 |
2199 | | 3151.7079 | <ts> | 3151.7891 |
2201 | | 3152.0141 | those are all the questions that I have, but if you have any last thoughts, um, | 3156.2168 |
2203 | | 3156.3982 | that you'd like to say about Rochester, or- | 3158.9284 |
2205 | | 3159.3302 | or anything we talked about, | 3160.9958 |
2207 | | 3161.1053 | you know. | 3161.4844 |
2208 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3161.7890 | No, not that I can think of. I think I talked your ear off enough. [<laugh>] | 3165.8292 |
2209 | ROC_int_01 | 3165.0353 | [Nah, you did] good. [It's been], you know, [really fascinating] and interesting, so thank you. I [always ask at] the end, you know, are you, um, comfortable with me still using this interview? | 3174.6449 |
2210 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3166.4093 | [<laugh>] | 3166.8986 |
2212 | | 3167.4621 | [Yeah.] | 3168.2009 |
2214 | | 3170.2061 | [Good.] | 3170.7959 |
2215 | | 3174.8548 | [Yeah.] | 3175.6584 |
2216 | ROC_int_01 | 3175.3895 | [Okay], | 3175.8075 |
2217 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3175.7816 | [I hope I] didn't sound crazy. No. [<laugh>] | 3178.5247 |
2218 | ROC_int_01 | 3175.8845 | [cool.] | 3176.1394 |
2220 | | 3177.2025 | [<laugh>] | 3178.3367 |
2221 | | 3178.8351 | You [don't sound crazy.] | 3180.0000 |
2222 | ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 | 3179.0684 | [<laugh> Good, good. <laugh>] | 3181.3409 |
2223 | ROC_int_01 | 3180.0974 | [<laugh>] | 3181.1606 |