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1ROC_int_010.4841Um, I usually say about forty minutes.3.3315
2ROC_se0_ag1_f_033.3705Okay.3.7482
3ROC_int_013.9114Yeah.4.1656
4ROC_se0_ag1_f_034.5129I don't want5.3942
6 5.9712you to be interrupted. I should put my phone on vibrate too.8.4799 
7ROC_int_0112.1864I like your nails. I love nude color.14.8863
8ROC_se0_ag1_f_0315.1381Nude is like [the only color] that I17.2737
9ROC_int_0115.7960[Mm-hm.]16.2891
10ROC_se0_ag1_f_0317.4917can really wear and feel good in besides black.20.2575
11ROC_int_0120.2661Yeah.20.7091
12ROC_se0_ag1_f_0320.7184Or gray.21.1940
13ROC_int_0121.2173Yeah, that's a good point. [Yeah.]23.4182
14ROC_se0_ag1_f_0322.9006[I'm like] slowly getting into flesh tones. I feel like I'm growing up [because I- I] can now wear another color.28.7048
15ROC_int_0126.3004[<laugh>]27.3035
16 28.7468Yeah.29.3016
17ROC_se0_ag1_f_0330.0372Okay.30.7926
19 32.9749/Alright, hey/.33.4272 
20ROC_int_0133.4411Awesome,33.9706
22 34.0816so,34.7855 
24 35.1077uh, have you grown up in Rochester your entire life?38.4666 
25ROC_se0_ag1_f_0338.6904Yes, [I] have.39.7116
26ROC_int_0139.0961[Okay.]39.3665
27 40.0567Okay cool. And where did- where were you born, I guess which part of the city did you grow up [in?]43.8791
28ROC_se0_ag1_f_0343.7905[Um], the s- the South Side, the South Wedge.46.4956
29 47.2131/RD-ADDRESS-3/-48.2657
31 49.3662whatever neighborhood.50.4806 
33 50.7417That's a silly name, [but]52.2456 
34ROC_int_0152.0660[Yeah.]52.4996
35ROC_se0_ag1_f_0352.6553yeah. And then I grew up around there. I've never lived anywhere else55.7293
37 55.9615other then like /RD-ADDRESS-3/.57.7722 
38ROC_int_0158.2432Okay.58.6768
39ROC_se0_ag1_f_0359.0592Kind of around like, school.60.3881
40ROC_int_0160.7180Yeah,61.2183
42 61.4005[yeah <laugh>]62.4013 
43ROC_se0_ag1_f_0361.4641[Pretty much. I've always] lived around there.63.0774
44 63.3386Except for-64.2991
46 64.7841there was- there were like two years when66.5500 
48 67.3615I lived in the hood, but68.4246 
49ROC_int_0168.5195[Mm-hm.]68.9422
50ROC_se0_ag1_f_0368.7464[that] ended quickly.69.8655
51ROC_int_0169.9261[<laugh>]70.5183
52ROC_se0_ag1_f_0371.1944And- and then I just moved back over here.73.1657
53ROC_int_0173.3242Yeah.73.6879
55 74.1542Okay. And when you say the hood, what's the hood to you?76.4250 
56ROC_se0_ag1_f_0376.6582<ts>76.7747
58 77.0079It was-78.5455 
60 79.1890<laugh>79.6273 
62 80.2008it was- it was /RD-ADDRESS-4/. It was between /RD-ADDRESS-5/ on the East Side. And there was a memorial literally85.4781 
64 86.5645right in front of my porch with like, mad teddy bears and [stuff.]88.9741 
65ROC_int_0188.8620[Yeah], yeah, [okay.]90.2422
66ROC_se0_ag1_f_0389.7130[Like, someone] got shot91.0349
67 91.3660right there. [And there was] like a bullet hole in my room. [Like in my wall.]95.3190
68ROC_int_0192.2121[Mm-hm.]92.9010
70 94.2558[Oh, wow.]95.3050 
71ROC_se0_ag1_f_0396.2422Um, I guess it went through.97.5945
73 97.9850I've always thought it was kind of cool, but-99.8175 
75 100.4377but then on the way to school one day, I got like, chased by some girls who wanted my coat.103.9722 
76ROC_int_01104.9362Woah.105.2253
77ROC_se0_ag1_f_03105.4865And then I just ran. I ran and ran and ran until- it was in the morning and I was waiting for the bus. And [I ran and ran] until I caught the bus. And I was like,111.6764
78ROC_int_01109.5618[Mm-hm.]110.1109
79ROC_se0_ag1_f_03111.8095I- maybe I should move, maybe we should move. Like (laughing) [this isn't] working out. Like (laughing).116.0456
80ROC_int_01114.1630[Yeah.]114.6386
81 116.2555Yeah, then it was like right away.117.9574
82ROC_se0_ag1_f_03118.0600But other than that, you know, it wasn't so bad.119.7013
83ROC_int_01119.8972[Mm-hm.]120.4334
84ROC_se0_ag1_f_03119.9018[At all.]120.4381
85 120.6479I just- I think I need to stick to, uh, The Wedge.123.4538
87 123.5611[And-] and Monroe.124.7594 
88ROC_int_01123.5611[Yeah.]123.9341
89ROC_se0_ag1_f_03124.9460[<laugh>]126.1076
90ROC_int_01124.9739[Yeah, nah, I hear you.]126.2143
91 126.7925And, um, did you grow up with your mom and dad or-129.5751
92ROC_se0_ag1_f_03129.6264Nope, just my mom.130.4983
93ROC_int_01130.4983Your mom, okay, cool. And what does your mom do?133.0303
94ROC_se0_ag1_f_03133.1329My mom is a preschool teacher.134.9782
95ROC_int_01135.0295Oh, okay [cool.]136.4284
96ROC_se0_ag1_f_03136.1812[Yep.] She works for a not-for-profit, um, on the East Side.139.2867
97 140.2659It's called /RD-WORK-6/.141.8968
98ROC_int_01142.0460Okay.142.4890
100 142.9040I've heard of that actually. [That sounds] familiar.145.3473 
101ROC_se0_ag1_f_03144.3215[Yep.]144.7318
102 145.6458She's been there for like ten years. It sucks because148.1410
104 148.5472everything is-149.1092 
106 150.0044it works off of funding,151.0824 
107ROC_int_01151.2261[Mm-hm.]151.6777
108ROC_se0_ag1_f_03151.3905[so.]151.9442
109 152.7451I don't know. I always felt like she should make more because she does a lot, but155.9298
111 157.2681everyone says teachers make shitty pay. And I guess that's true.160.6802 
112ROC_int_01160.6942Mm-hm, yeah.161.9112
113ROC_se0_ag1_f_03162.3402It sucks though. I feel like,163.8256
115 163.9341it's-164.2447 
117 164.7186it's so much165.5984 
119 165.9434more important than people seem to think. [And] I always think like she comes home tired when they have a cold, she catches the cold, she brings it home. [Like],172.3304 
120ROC_int_01168.1443[Mm-hm.]168.5780
122 171.9108[Right.]172.3444 
123ROC_se0_ag1_f_03172.7594she'll come home like, bruised because like some little kid- some badass little kid decided to like, punch her. Like, some of them178.9852
125 179.2093are like179.5988 
127 179.8226<ts>179.8972 
129 180.2562problem children.181.5199 
130ROC_int_01181.5245Right.182.0468
131ROC_se0_ag1_f_03182.1634Which I don't think that's true either, but.184.8539
132ROC_int_01185.0532Mm-hm.185.6407
133ROC_se0_ag1_f_03185.9998They just are a little bit out of control and188.1878
135 188.4295so,188.7882 
137 189.9061yeah.190.3211 
139 190.7781But I think she should191.9951 
141 192.2889make a lot more (whispered).193.1189 
143 193.3613but (whispered) that's what she does.194.1296 
144ROC_int_01194.2368Yeah.194.7078
145ROC_se0_ag1_f_03194.8150And she likes it, so.196.1066
146ROC_int_01196.5449Okay. So did she have any preferences I guess growing up, on where to send you to school?201.1647
148 201.6730Seeing as though like, she's a teacher and what not203.7666 
149ROC_se0_ag1_f_03203.9567<ts>204.1676
151 204.2376Um, she didn't work when I was205.7309 
153 205.8604growing up. [She just] took care of me.207.5844 
154ROC_int_01206.4058[Okay.]206.6716
155ROC_se0_ag1_f_03207.9947So,208.5916
157 209.2071she didn't work until I was sixteen.211.4126 
159 211.8976Um,212.5037 
161 212.9190/We had to go/ live with my grandmother. I guess she just really wanted to raise me herself like, she didn't want to put me in daycare.217.5491 
162ROC_int_01217.5771Mm-hm.218.1273
163ROC_se0_ag1_f_03218.1926Or anything, um.219.4598
165 220.2105So I grew up a little isolated.222.4393 
167 222.7005Like (laughing).223.2414 
169 224.0294I guess. And she,225.6272 
171 225.8548just,226.3690 
173 228.4067she knew that I was always artsy and /RD-SCHOOL-4/ was her first choice.232.2664 
174ROC_int_01232.2944Mm-hm.232.8027
175ROC_se0_ag1_f_03233.1617Um,233.7259
177 234.5606cause it was my first choice, I thought it would be fun.236.9653 
179 237.3991And so, I got in. That was back when the lottery was a thing.240.8880 
180ROC_int_01240.8870Right.241.3952
181 241.5864<ts>241.7450
183 241.8802Wait so you've been going since sixth [grade?] Oh, okay I thought you came for high [school.]246.4953 
184ROC_se0_ag1_f_03243.6509[Yeah.]243.9214
186 246.2575[Mm-mm] nope. I was there since sixth grade.248.5563 
187ROC_int_01248.6624Wow.249.1707
188ROC_se0_ag1_f_03249.1613It was the best. I would go back right now.250.8493
189ROC_int_01250.8586Yeah, [okay.]251.5487
190ROC_se0_ag1_f_03251.1477[Like], fuck being an adult.252.4125
191ROC_int_01252.4487[<laugh> agreed.]254.5703
192ROC_se0_ag1_f_03253.2355[I would go back right] now, tomorrow, and it would be the best.256.4398
193ROC_int_01256.4623Yeah.256.8913
194ROC_se0_ag1_f_03256.9845I can't think of like a better time period in my life than high school, even though I was not popular.261.2127
195ROC_int_01261.3991[Mm-hm.]261.7162
196ROC_se0_ag1_f_03261.5903[At] all (laughing).262.6348
197ROC_int_01262.7700Girl, me and you both [<laugh>.]265.2031
198ROC_se0_ag1_f_03264.6343[I was] so-265.9259
199 266.3269oh I was ugly [until like the ten grade. Like, I was. I was.] It was horrible. And then I got boobs. And then high school273.4833
200ROC_int_01267.2082[/I was telling people/, stop, stop.]270.2286
201ROC_se0_ag1_f_03273.8703was like274.5278
203 274.7738totally different. But [even before like],276.7415 
204ROC_int_01275.8462[<laugh>]276.7415
205ROC_se0_ag1_f_03277.2824even when no one talked to me, like279.1522
207 279.3527it was still the best. I loved it.281.1888 
209 281.4406Didn't you love it?282.2286 
210ROC_int_01282.4011Yeah. I actually miss high school a lot too.285.2548
212 285.8148I mean yeah. I'm not with this being a grown up [stuff.]288.6172 
213ROC_se0_ag1_f_03288.1369[No.]288.5706
214ROC_int_01288.7852[Like-]289.1161
215ROC_se0_ag1_f_03289.0311[No] no, no no, I'm not either (laughing).291.6796
216ROC_int_01291.7076You know, but you were like me. I grew up with my mom. My mom was a stay-at-home mom.296.8729
218 297.2506Like most of my life [so.]298.9941 
219ROC_se0_ag1_f_03298.8645[Yeah.]299.2510
220ROC_int_01299.4375Yeah.299.8199
221ROC_se0_ag1_f_03299.8292I'd like to be a stay at home mom.301.4239
222ROC_int_01301.5731Yeah.301.9881
223ROC_se0_ag1_f_03302.3600I really would.303.0174
224ROC_int_01303.3345I think it's really beneficial for the kids. I mean,305.5587
226 306.0577society like,307.1523 
228 307.5999could look down on it sometimes. And they're like, oh I'll be able to- /if you're a woman and all the-/ I'm like nah,312.4743 
229ROC_se0_ag1_f_03312.4813[No.]312.9779
230ROC_int_01312.6638[I loved] it.313.4099
231 313.5305<laugh>314.0877
232ROC_se0_ag1_f_03314.1344Yeah.314.6473
234 314.9177I- I absolutely agree.316.7707 
236 317.0365I-317.6146 
238 318.4959It's a job.319.1697 
240 319.5025It's, uh, a [legitimate job.]320.8361 
241ROC_int_01320.2556[Mm-hm.]320.8315
242 321.3887Mm-hm.321.6964
243ROC_se0_ag1_f_03321.7244Too bad people don't322.4728
245 322.6378see it that way but it is.323.7032 
247 323.8641It's just as important as going and punching in somewhere.326.8291 
249 326.9900I mean it's way better, cause who even wants to punch in somewhere. Like,329.5097 
250ROC_int_01329.9154Mm-hm.330.1975
251ROC_se0_ag1_f_03330.1928I've never been able to keep a job that I punch in at.332.1763
252 332.5074Ever.332.8431
253ROC_int_01332.9970Yeah.333.2348
254ROC_se0_ag1_f_03333.3561Like, I334.3399
256 334.8266unintentionally just,335.7662 
258 335.9411like I think mess it up, because I can't do it.338.3978 
259ROC_int_01338.5470Mm.339.0841
261 339.1672[Yeah, yeah.]339.7244 
262ROC_se0_ag1_f_03339.1695[I think- I] think it's slowly just grows and grows. Like the resentment, or whatever of being like in a place, where you're monitored, like,346.4099
263 346.5538uh, I'm gonna punch in now, I'm gonna punch out, like I- it feels so normal that it's terrible.350.5704
264ROC_int_01350.6380Mm-hm.351.0739
265ROC_se0_ag1_f_03351.1509So eventually, like352.1318
267 352.5725I get fired or I quit (laughing).353.7895 
268ROC_int_01353.9341Yeah.354.4143
269ROC_se0_ag1_f_03354.5053But,354.7990
271 355.2018Yeah.355.6961 
273 356.1134I w- I would like to be a stay-at-home mom someday.358.0089 
274ROC_int_01358.2234Yeah. Nah I'm- I don't blame you. [<laugh>]360.7338
275ROC_se0_ag1_f_03360.5939[Before] my ovaries, like atrophy, [and die], hopefully364.4169
276ROC_int_01362.9685[<laugh>]363.8184
277 364.4169Girl, you still got time.365.5377
278ROC_se0_ag1_f_03365.5494<psh> Mm-mm, where?366.7687
279ROC_int_01366.9506<laugh>367.6750
280ROC_se0_ag1_f_03367.6797Where? (laughing)368.3698
281ROC_int_01368.4724You still got time. I [mean-]369.9477
282ROC_se0_ag1_f_03369.7827[<laugh>]370.6681
283ROC_int_01370.8080Yeah.371.3442
285 371.9189But [<laugh> right I don't know about here, but]375.9214 
286ROC_se0_ag1_f_03372.3899[Mm-hm, I don't know. No, no, no.]375.5685
287 376.7444I don't know.377.3507
288ROC_int_01378.4085Well, in high school you said-380.3063
290 380.5045did you mostly hang out by yourself then, from, [like, six to tenth or-]383.9282 
291ROC_se0_ag1_f_03382.7258[Um.]383.0942
293 383.5138[Yeah], I did.385.8532 
294ROC_int_01386.1245[Mm.]386.5908
295ROC_se0_ag1_f_03386.5768[I-] I-387.3905
296 387.5461from like, tenth on, I had like a couple of friends that I390.2063
298 390.3285finally felt like I fit in with, but391.7491 
300 392.8496I didn't393.4371 
302 394.2315have like,395.1758 
304 395.9195I didn't have396.5763 
306 396.7955a place where I felt like I belonged. It [wasn't.]399.2459 
307ROC_int_01398.6351[Mm-hm.]399.2109
308ROC_se0_ag1_f_03400.0240Like, I kind of got like the shitty end of the stick in high school.403.4180
310 403.6076<laugh>404.0138 
311ROC_int_01403.9869Mm.404.5356
312ROC_se0_ag1_f_03404.5706[For-] for a while. [Like],405.7513
313ROC_int_01405.6766[Yeah.]406.0473
314ROC_se0_ag1_f_03406.0707I loved school. I loved actual school. [Like I never] hated school, but,409.8517
315ROC_int_01408.2990[Yeah.]408.5554
316ROC_se0_ag1_f_03410.6747uh,411.2016
318 411.3782it took a while to find people who I think413.7656 
320 413.9492like,414.2846 
322 414.4141wanted to be friend and by tenth grade, I think416.8216 
324 417.0687maybe I found them.418.0030 
325ROC_int_01418.3598Mm-hm.418.9426
327 419.4299Do you still talk with them or-420.9634 
328ROC_se0_ag1_f_03421.0613<ts>421.1779
330 421.3015Yeah I do, actually.423.2459 
332 423.3829Um,423.9611 
334 424.7830I talk to at least a couple of them. And it's funny cause we are still428.2150 
336 428.3235really close.429.1107 
337ROC_int_01429.1293Okay.429.4627
339 429.6766[That's good.]430.1732 
340ROC_se0_ag1_f_03429.8049[Um.]430.3458
341 430.5952and-it- it's funny how it turned out that way, but432.4324
343 432.5880I think we always will be.433.8820 
344ROC_int_01434.0825Mm-hm.434.5791
345ROC_se0_ag1_f_03435.0052Yeah there is435.8049
347 436.0334someone that I don't talk to anymore. And438.6580 
349 439.8462um,440.4672 
351 440.7493and then obviously, like,442.1383 
353 442.9799I dated /RD-NAME-1/ after high [school.]444.8492 
354ROC_int_01444.3363[Oh yeah.]444.8468
355ROC_se0_ag1_f_03444.9681[Forever.]445.5253
356ROC_int_01444.9751[Right.]445.5276
357 445.6463[Mm-hm.]446.0380
358ROC_se0_ag1_f_03445.6722[We're- we're] good. We're just not together. [But],447.7769
359ROC_int_01447.5624[Yeah.]447.8655
360ROC_se0_ag1_f_03448.3131um,448.7934
362 449.6677and that was funny450.5117 
364 450.6230too cause that,451.7165 
366 452.1360I thought we were gonna get married. And I was like, am I really gonna marry someone that I met in fucking high school, like,457.4507 
367ROC_int_01457.6609Mm-hm.457.9589
368ROC_se0_ag1_f_03458.0261I've known him for so long. <laugh>460.0567
369ROC_int_01460.1359[Yeah.]460.5367
370ROC_se0_ag1_f_03460.3581[How] are we s- how are we still like, in contact. In a- in a thing. How?464.4625
371ROC_int_01464.4870Mm-hm.465.0753
372ROC_se0_ag1_f_03465.0058But465.2739
373 465.4668it's just like that, I feel like,466.8750
375 467.1968I don't know, if it was like the class of o-seven.469.2269 
377 469.8354or- uh- something about us, [but]471.5763 
378ROC_int_01471.1824[Mm-hm.]471.6953
379ROC_se0_ag1_f_03472.5766yeah I'm still pretty close to a lot of474.9774
381 475.6815the people who I was back then.476.9521 
382ROC_int_01477.3549And was your major, art?478.7584
384 479.1292Right? [Or visual?]480.1084 
385ROC_se0_ag1_f_03479.4137[It was theater.]480.4394
386ROC_int_01481.3158Theater, okay.482.3620
387ROC_se0_ag1_f_03482.6954[Mm-hm.]483.2037
388ROC_int_01482.8818[I didn't] know that.483.9870
389ROC_se0_ag1_f_03484.0057It was.484.5979
390ROC_int_01484.6206Yeah, okay.485.6394
392 485.7793Cool.486.3599 
394 486.6956And, um,487.9336 
396 488.2711what'd you like, I guess about, the theater program at /RD-SCHOOL-4/?491.7653 
397ROC_se0_ag1_f_03492.5604Um, I liked, the fact that I didn't have to take gym, cause they made us take gym cause they made us take dance.497.4160
398ROC_int_01497.4545Oh.498.0979
400 498.2584[Yeah.]498.6892 
401ROC_se0_ag1_f_03498.4531[And] they also taught you how to sing.500.5627
402 500.7308And I-501.2829
404 501.8798It was like a bunch of majors in one.503.5182 
405ROC_int_01503.5275Mm-hm.504.0684
406ROC_se0_ag1_f_03504.1081W- we had to take dance everyday.505.5932
408 506.1965And we also, like507.4997 
410 507.8145had to take voice lessons.509.0292 
411ROC_int_01509.0979[Right.]509.6932
412ROC_se0_ag1_f_03509.1224[so it's kind of like], a little bit of vocal, and it was a lot of dance actually.511.8706
413ROC_int_01511.9120Mm-hm.512.4063
414ROC_se0_ag1_f_03512.4366And it was interesting, and it was fun. And514.7937
416 515.8633that's what attracted me to it.517.6468 
417ROC_int_01517.8240Yeah, did you have favorite shows while you were there or-520.9243
418ROC_se0_ag1_f_03521.0216I couldn't.521.5369
420 522.1943I- I couldn't participate in all the shows. And I really wanted too, [cause I didn't have a] ride back526.8403 
421ROC_int_01525.6155[Mm-hm.]526.1261
422ROC_se0_ag1_f_03527.1219from like, late [rehearsals]528.4141
423ROC_int_01527.9915[Okay.]528.5277
424ROC_se0_ag1_f_03528.5016and my mom, I guess was a little overprotective, and she worried. /And/531.7399
425 532.3414she couldn't like, drive me home534.2130
427 534.8355at the times when536.0758 
429 536.2011rehearsals would end537.9520 
430ROC_int_01538.0360[Mm-hm.]538.6559
431ROC_se0_ag1_f_03538.0686[And]538.8870
432 539.9682I guess I always kind of resented her for that, cause I would have been on the stage a lot more.543.2293
434 543.7002[But.]544.1409 
435ROC_int_01543.7589[Yeah.]544.1502
436ROC_se0_ag1_f_03544.5017I mean,545.1498
438 545.3853we- we had to see all of the shows too anyway.548.5578 
439ROC_int_01548.6814Mm-hm.549.2060
440ROC_se0_ag1_f_03549.2759So we could like, write about them. And551.0129
442 551.2166so we got to see them all anyway.552.9163 
444 553.2665I don't know if I had a favorite show.554.8263 
446 555.3066I swore we were gonna do Grease one day,557.2084 
447ROC_int_01557.3903Yeah.557.7470
448ROC_se0_ag1_f_03557.7493so I learned all the songs, just because I thought we were gonna do it. And I was like,561.2016
450 561.2646wait, I was like when we do it,562.8331 
452 563.1478like in September when we found out all the shows that were gonna happen. I was like watch, one day, I'm gonna come to school, like one year,568.7445 
454 569.1781and they're gonna say Grease, and I'm gonna kill [everything. because I know], every song. And like,573.3994 
455ROC_int_01571.3699[<laugh>]572.2838
456ROC_se0_ag1_f_03573.5080it [n- never] happened but-574.9837
457ROC_int_01573.6128[Yeah.]574.1676
458 575.3847[Mm-hm.]575.9209
459ROC_se0_ag1_f_03575.8743[So] I always hoped we would do Grease, but we didn't.577.5809
460 577.9341I was in one play.578.7617
462 579.2275And I was in the ninth grade.580.4474 
464 581.0832And I was a second lead.582.0375 
465ROC_int_01582.2706[Mm-hm.]582.7516
466ROC_se0_ag1_f_03582.7237[Which] I guess was okay, but it wasn't good enough.584.4529
467ROC_int_01584.6475Mm, [y- yeah.]586.2003
468ROC_se0_ag1_f_03584.9973[You know it wasn't good enough for me.]586.2003
469ROC_int_01586.7552[Yeah, yeah,]587.7858
470ROC_se0_ag1_f_03586.7598[<laugh>]587.6019
471 588.1517[You know] I wanted to go further, but I didn't really get a chance to-591.0439
472ROC_int_01588.1675[right.]588.4547
473ROC_se0_ag1_f_03591.5521to do a lot more plays, but that's okay. [Cause]593.7161
474ROC_int_01593.4966[Mm-hm.]594.0235
475ROC_se0_ag1_f_03594.0347watching them594.8437
477 595.0293was just as fun.595.9726 
478ROC_int_01596.5030Yeah.596.9366
479ROC_se0_ag1_f_03597.2677Maybe.597.6967
480ROC_int_01597.8739[<laugh>]598.5220
481ROC_se0_ag1_f_03597.8785[Not really], but it was still fun.599.4380
482ROC_int_01599.5432Yeah.600.0421
484 600.1867I always said, I would have liked to be in theater if I wasn't in creative writing,603.8366 
485ROC_se0_ag1_f_03604.6060I [should] have been a creative writing major.606.4851
486ROC_int_01604.6992[so.]605.0303
488 606.2986[You] should. [You really should've.]608.3083 
489ROC_se0_ag1_f_03607.2218[I should've.]608.1638
490 608.6429I should've, but I was,610.1770
492 610.5220like,610.8484 
494 611.4733I was stuck on drama. I wanted to get noticed and nobody ever noticed me [until-]615.2436 
495ROC_int_01615.0642[Mm-hm.]615.5102
496ROC_se0_ag1_f_03616.0791Like they noticed me for the wrong reasons. Like,617.9862
497ROC_int_01617.9862Mm.618.2660
498ROC_se0_ag1_f_03618.2660when I was almost done with high school. And I always knew it was the wrong reasons, but621.6920
499 622.1024[looking-]622.8578
500ROC_int_01622.1024[When you say wrong], what do you mean by wrong?624.1494
501ROC_se0_ag1_f_03624.3312Um.625.0167
503 625.7954Well I feel like627.4751 
505 627.6817when I grew boobs, [people] like- like boys started to look at me. And like,632.1638 
506ROC_int_01629.1096[Okay.]629.4360
507ROC_se0_ag1_f_03632.5823I'd have a crush on a boy forever, but like,634.5905
509 634.8111I don't know, my clothes were fucked up. And like,636.7089 
511 637.0866I was kind of broke and, grew up kind of poor. So I never really looked my best.640.8298 
513 641.5758And maybe- I mean I was like skinny, and I was a stick figure. I didn't [have anything.] So I don't think I was really like,649.3711 
514ROC_int_01646.2143[Mm-hm.]646.8717
515ROC_se0_ag1_f_03650.1859noticed until,651.6237
517 651.7568oh, of course652.6992 
519 652.9976you got boobs. now it's like, oh, it's like there's a new person in class. I've been here since the sixth grade. Like,658.1355 
521 658.5780you know,658.9417 
522ROC_int_01659.2401Mm-hm.659.6411
523ROC_se0_ag1_f_03659.6318I've been here like, and no one looked, but-661.8910
524 662.0906but662.4389
526 662.9320<ts>663.0252 
528 663.0905i- it all balanced out and evened out.664.9557 
530 665.7251[And] it still was like the best experience.667.8187 
531ROC_int_01665.7319[Yeah.]666.0467
532 668.0414Mm-hm,668.5480
534 668.9052yeah.669.3376 
535ROC_se0_ag1_f_03670.1537So,670.5964
536ROC_int_01671.9235Would you, um,673.3049
538 673.7289how would you describe I guess, your image675.8070 
540 676.0031of transition out of high school to like, I guess being an adult.680.0239 
542 680.3771How have you felt like [you've changed?]682.2143 
543ROC_se0_ag1_f_03681.3423[Um.]682.0138
544 683.4080I can't even really say that I've changed, cause I was still686.3643
546 687.4262developing. They were formative years. [So] like, I can't say I was something and now I'm something [else.]692.6583 
547ROC_int_01689.4872[Mm-hm.]689.8370
549 692.3435[Yeah.]692.6408 
550ROC_se0_ag1_f_03692.9693I didn't even think I was ready, to pop out of any type of shell, like.696.0235
551ROC_int_01696.0888Yeah.696.4991
552ROC_se0_ag1_f_03697.0260Like I lost my virginity like,698.7781
554 699.1838two months before we graduated.700.6013 
555ROC_int_01700.7692Mm.701.1375
556ROC_se0_ag1_f_03701.1515And like, I had to listen to everyone else talking about sex forever, and I was just like, I'm not ready, I'm not ready, I'm not ready. How could you do that? Like,707.1142
557ROC_int_01707.1702Mm-hm.707.6411
558ROC_se0_ag1_f_03707.6504I didn't get kissed till I was sixteen, almost [seventeen.] Like not even one kiss. So I feel like I was a late bloomer in that aspect.714.2473
559ROC_int_01709.7569[Mm-hm.]710.2325
560ROC_se0_ag1_f_03714.8535And so, I can't even say I was something. I think [when I] graduated,719.6551
561ROC_int_01718.4378[Mm.]718.7875
562ROC_se0_ag1_f_03720.5772my- my mom finally let me cut my hair. Cause I wanted to cut it forever.723.8459
564 724.6060And then I-725.1049 
566 725.4033I cut my hair and I started modeling and then I shaved my head (laughing).729.1651 
568 729.7153And then it just, I li- I just did what I wanted.732.4758 
569ROC_int_01732.9934[Mm-hm.]733.3449
570ROC_se0_ag1_f_03733.2312[And-] and I didn't really-735.0859
571 736.1816I think once I was like, free from my738.2404
573 738.5276kind of738.9398 
575 739.3296restricted740.2978 
577 740.8061home life. I just did exactly what I wanted to do.743.3380 
578ROC_int_01743.5758Mm-hm.744.0375
579ROC_se0_ag1_f_03744.3172I don't know, I've always done exactly what I wanted to do and that's probably changed.747.5335
580ROC_int_01747.7946Yeah.748.2469
581ROC_se0_ag1_f_03748.2096[But], what I've been doing hasn't changed.749.8259
582ROC_int_01749.8888Okay.750.2700
583ROC_se0_ag1_f_03750.6297But what I've- what I've want has- has changed slightly, so I just go with that.754.1210
584ROC_int_01754.3169Mm-hm.754.7289
586 755.1235Yeah,755.5169 
588 755.7760yeah.756.1867 
590 756.6297And how did you get into the modeling stuff758.8209 
592 759.1956after, high school?760.4143 
593ROC_se0_ag1_f_03760.0921<ts>760.1902
594 760.8904Um,761.6394
596 761.8186started in high school.763.5856 
598 764.2885I did one of those stupid- you remember In Control?766.1630 
599ROC_int_01766.7785Yes, I do.767.5385
600ROC_se0_ag1_f_03767.5479So I did one of their [stupid fashion shows. That wasn't really] a fashion show.770.9133
601ROC_int_01768.2007[<laugh>]770.1498
602ROC_se0_ag1_f_03771.5521But like, for us it was, I [guess back then.]773.9395
603ROC_int_01773.0396[/Yeah I think it was/] yeah a lot of-774.6903
604ROC_se0_ag1_f_03774.8954And then /RD-NAME-2/'s mom776.4062
606 776.7035<ts> wanted me to do her778.7412 
608 779.4826her hair show. And I780.6441 
610 780.8438did her hair show [for like three] years straight. And then it just went on from there.784.1397 
611ROC_int_01781.6229[Mm-hm.]782.1218
612ROC_se0_ag1_f_03784.7785And-785.4173
614 786.7136and it- I started off really small. And I'm still doing it,790.4180 
616 790.5686but790.9417 
618 792.7649I know I can't do it forever, I don't really wanna do it for much longer.795.4542 
619ROC_int_01795.5755Mm-hm.796.0791
620ROC_se0_ag1_f_03796.2702I'm twenty-six now, and I've been doing it for nine years and eh, it's really not the greatest803.0769
622 803.3101honestly.804.0841 
623ROC_int_01804.1121Yeah.804.4618
624ROC_se0_ag1_f_03804.8815You worry about your body and [it makes] you look at yourself808.3144
625ROC_int_01806.7548[Mm-hm.]807.1418
626ROC_se0_ag1_f_03809.0349under like a- a- a far stricter like,811.6928
628 814.3169magnifying glass than you would if you816.1680 
630 816.6856weren't817.2545 
632 818.3445in this field.819.3655 
633ROC_int_01819.5521[Yeah.]819.7900
634ROC_se0_ag1_f_03819.6912[And-] and you didn't have to worry about822.1261
635 823.1659like823.5156
637 824.0740you're chosen because you look at certain way. That's fucked up.826.3495 
638ROC_int_01826.4847Mm-hm.826.9697
639ROC_se0_ag1_f_03826.9697That is fucked up.827.9442
640ROC_int_01828.0561[Mm-hm, yeah.]828.8859
641ROC_se0_ag1_f_03828.3683[I don't know] why anyone would want [to] actually do that.831.0961
642ROC_int_01830.0003[Mm.]830.1589
643 831.2173Mm-hm.831.6836
644ROC_se0_ag1_f_03832.5975But,832.9613
646 834.3403sometimes like, the finished product. The piece of art is really nice.837.3526 
647ROC_int_01837.7582[Mm-hm.]838.1266
648ROC_se0_ag1_f_03838.0287[And] you were a part of it.839.3902
649 839.8985And I840.2109
651 840.6154take that seriously,841.7578 
652ROC_int_01841.8045Yeah.842.1076
653ROC_se0_ag1_f_03842.6018but.842.9282
654ROC_int_01842.9609Cause you're and artist. [<cough>]844.0800
655ROC_se0_ag1_f_03844.1499Like, I don't-845.3343
657 846.7880I think people make the mistake of like, thinking that pretty girls don't need to be told they're pretty.850.8074 
658ROC_int_01851.2224Mm.851.8425
659ROC_se0_ag1_f_03851.9160N-no. Nobody tell pretty girls they're pretty.854.1215
660ROC_int_01854.2241Mm-hm.854.5738
661ROC_se0_ag1_f_03854.5832Because855.0961
663 855.4411people like you, think she doesn't need to hear it, cause people like you think other people tell her all the time, [but really nobody] tells her861.4894 
664ROC_int_01860.0236[Mm.]860.5878
665 861.5251[Mm-hm]861.9914
666ROC_se0_ag1_f_03861.6928[Because] everybody thinks that she's hearing it from some-863.6504
667 863.8360somewhere else.864.6201
668ROC_int_01864.6341Yeah.864.9885
669ROC_se0_ag1_f_03864.9698And865.2962
670 865.9956then she ends up hearing it from nowhere.867.3619
671ROC_int_01867.6417Mm-hm.868.1639
672ROC_se0_ag1_f_03868.1732So if you combine that with,869.5954
674 870.8952uh,871.6692 
676 872.0563a career goal,873.5997 
678 874.2572that874.6069 
680 875.5534it- it- it only reaches success if someone878.2661 
682 878.7790likes the way you look.880.0193 
684 881.0219You could be881.7446 
686 882.8253good at eighty-five thousand things, but if you don't look like this, [it's like], bye.887.6933 
687ROC_int_01886.7374[Mm.]887.1105
688ROC_se0_ag1_f_03888.5735And that,889.1097
690 889.4548like completely messes you up.891.1194 
691ROC_int_01891.3572Yeah.891.5717
692ROC_se0_ag1_f_03891.8608<ts>891.9451
694 892.1452So,892.5136 
696 892.8866it's not fun.893.6980 
698 894.3217But if you can separate895.6319 
700 896.0423yourself from all that and just-897.6183 
702 898.4204like I found the art to focus on. That part of it is fun.900.5921 
703ROC_int_01900.9512Mm-hm.901.4361
704ROC_se0_ag1_f_03901.6319And I think as long as people wanna photograph me,903.8188
706 904.3038I'll just let them905.0452 
708 905.5488until-906.1363 
710 907.0164until I really don't want to anymore.908.8443 
711ROC_int_01908.9749Yeah.909.4365
712ROC_se0_ag1_f_03909.4691But at this point it's about-910.6395
714 911.4602like, I- I'm not even really trying too hard anymore.914.2335 
716 914.4246[I take] what comes like,915.9867 
717ROC_int_01914.5809[Mm.]914.9236
718ROC_se0_ag1_f_03916.2945people- if people approach me and they're like, I think that918.7227
720 919.2682you should do this,920.2118 
722 920.6916like, now I'm at the point where I've been doing it for nine years, so people know that, that's what I do.924.9745 
723ROC_int_01925.1936Mm-hm.925.6926
724ROC_se0_ag1_f_03925.9164So I don't have to like926.5676
726 926.7988run around and- and a- I don't audition for [things]930.0137 
727ROC_int_01929.5581[Right.]930.0617
728ROC_se0_ag1_f_03930.1712here anymore. That would be silly.932.2474
730 932.8490Here like, <exhale> I'm not gonna do that here.934.8307 
732 935.4042But,935.6936 
734 935.9528now I just- I kind of like have- I more relaxed about it.938.7044 
735ROC_int_01939.1147[Mm-hm.]939.5484
736ROC_se0_ag1_f_03939.2733[And I'll] just take whatever comes. And if it doesn't come for a while,942.0710
737 942.8672an- um- then I-943.7266
739 943.9367maybe I'll decide to stop.945.1287 
740ROC_int_01946.0380Yeah.946.3737
741ROC_se0_ag1_f_03947.0685But,947.2597
743 947.7108it's a really not a big deal and it sucks.949.5200 
744ROC_int_01949.7858Yeah, well.950.6112
745ROC_se0_ag1_f_03950.6718<laugh> Not fun.952.0054
746ROC_int_01952.6056Do you have any preference of types of shoots you like to do or [is it all just-]957.7655
747ROC_se0_ag1_f_03957.0774[I like to get] dirty [like, I like] to959.1011
748ROC_int_01958.3178[Yeah.]958.6908
749ROC_se0_ag1_f_03959.7108have weird, /I/ like the weirder the better.961.9956
750ROC_int_01962.0423Yeah.962.3594
751ROC_se0_ag1_f_03963.1101I-963.6407
753 963.8718I- I'm not tall,965.1634 
755 965.3497I'm not [thin],966.1832 
756ROC_int_01965.7213[Mm.]965.9545
757ROC_se0_ag1_f_03966.3408so966.8346
759 967.7718I'm968.1589 
761 968.8163fairly like, modified, as far as my outside.971.5861 
762ROC_int_01971.7260Mm-hm.972.3135
763ROC_se0_ag1_f_03972.4802So, and then my hair is really short. So it's just like, I- I- even though, you would think that would limit you, And- and I guess it does,979.1657
765 979.7159but I always knew I couldn't be like a Victoria Secret model.981.9774 
766ROC_int_01981.9727Mm-hm.982.3551
767ROC_se0_ag1_f_03982.3877So, in the world of like the alternative, I guess if you wanna call it the alternative,986.5365
769 987.0308which I also think is silly, but whatever.989.2643 
770ROC_int_01989.2830Yeah.989.8472
771ROC_se0_ag1_f_03989.9498Um,990.4674
773 991.1983it- it hasn't been so difficult really.993.2593 
775 994.0660I like to get dirty though. Like,995.4182 
777 996.6201get weird.997.1936 
779 997.6459I- I-998.2247 
781 998.4523I would shoot out in the cold,1000.2385 
783 1000.7188or in water, or I've been covered in baby powder and like, completely topless. [Like],1005.5997 
784ROC_int_011005.4924[Mm-hm.]1006.0240
785ROC_se0_ag1_f_031007.4742I've done plenty of nude shoots,1009.6550
787 1009.8441or,1010.2847 
789 1010.8676uh, implied nude.1011.8469 
791 1012.1551I don't know, I just feel like1013.3156 
793 1014.1305<ts>1014.2004 
795 1014.3450that's the fun part.1015.1563 
796ROC_int_011015.4128Yeah.1015.8884
797ROC_se0_ag1_f_031015.9863And I think if you try and you push yourself,1017.7909
799 1018.4343um,1018.8640 
801 1019.0573versus, saying like, nah don't cut my hair. I've cut my hair every time somebody wanted to- me to cut my hair for a- a picture.1025.0405 
802ROC_int_011025.3016Mm-hm.1025.6141
803ROC_se0_ag1_f_031025.6420It's just hair.1026.1177
804ROC_int_011026.3123Yeah.1026.7320
805ROC_se0_ag1_f_031027.1796I- it's just hair and it grows back. [And so] like,1030.0567
806ROC_int_011029.2360[Mm-hm.]1029.6277
807ROC_se0_ag1_f_031030.5742I just feel like if I don't go for it, then1032.6994
809 1033.2682what's the point of ever having done it, you know. Like, I'm never gonna be on- on a runway on television. But1038.7460 
811 1039.4128f- for1040.0003 
813 1040.4806you know, as far as just like, being a functional1042.4297 
815 1043.1245model,1043.8146 
817 1044.2844that's1044.6941 
819 1045.0478what it actually takes. So,1046.8070 
821 1047.6790so1048.0054 
823 1048.5463that's what I would prefer. I like extreme1050.5500 
825 1051.1517shoots. I'd probably cut my hair again1053.0914 
826ROC_int_011053.1147[Mm-hm.]1053.5251
827ROC_se0_ag1_f_031053.3665[if] someone asked me to. If it was worth it.1054.9659
828ROC_int_011055.3669Mm-hm.1055.9638
829ROC_se0_ag1_f_031056.2132Yeah. So,1057.1831
830ROC_int_011057.9758Yeah, I love your hair.1059.0949
832 1059.2628[You look fabulous /always/.]1060.7875 
833ROC_se0_ag1_f_031059.4912[Thank you. I finally] love my hair. Finally.1062.1200
834 1062.5909I hated it for so [long.]1064.0784
835ROC_int_011063.8562[Really?]1064.4794
836ROC_se0_ag1_f_031064.5260Yeah, it wasn't kinky and it wasn't straight.1067.0102
837ROC_int_011067.1594Mm.1067.7236
838ROC_se0_ag1_f_031068.0593And so,1068.9826
840 1069.2577I was like, well my hair is stupid. W- like it [doesn't do] anything. Like,1073.4392 
841ROC_int_011071.9995[<laugh>]1072.4891
842ROC_se0_ag1_f_031074.1246I couldn't ever really get a handle on it. I always wanted to- to cut my hair, my mom never let me.1078.2233
843ROC_int_011078.2362Mm-hm.1078.7677
844ROC_se0_ag1_f_031078.8004And I just had like,1079.9008
846 1080.6609big curly hair. And I guess now looking back it was1083.2115 
848 1083.5938probably beautiful, but at the time it did not feel [beautiful to me.]1086.8614 
849ROC_int_011086.3298[Yeah.]1086.8847
850 1087.2484Right.1087.6727
851ROC_se0_ag1_f_031087.9245I always wanted hair I couldn't have.1089.7104
852ROC_int_011090.5719[Mm-hm.]1091.1547
853ROC_se0_ag1_f_031090.5765[So.]1090.9356
854 1091.5604I finally like my hair now I think though.1093.5235
856 1094.3022Finally. I think I'm gonna leave it alone for a while and see what [happens.]1097.5138 
857ROC_int_011096.9309[<laugh>]1097.4951
858 1098.0827Yeah, let the curls come in. I remember you were telling me a while ago you [were thinking of loose curls.]1103.2154
859ROC_se0_ag1_f_031102.1056[I love your hair.]1103.2527
860ROC_int_011103.6257What? [Girl <laugh>]1105.3323
861ROC_se0_ag1_f_031104.1386[I do love your hair.]1105.3463
862ROC_int_011105.5934[Thank you.]1106.2975
863ROC_se0_ag1_f_031105.7007[you have-] there's this picture of you that's on facebook and it was like you1108.8702
864 1109.3086and it was like1109.8588
866 1110.5023big. It was- like you had like the [big fro one] and /it was-/ I could like see the curls in it. Oh so pretty.1115.2123 
867ROC_int_011112.0457[Mm-hm.]1112.7265
868ROC_se0_ag1_f_031115.3173[It was so pretty.]1116.1806
869ROC_int_011115.5275[Thank you.] Thank you. Yeah.1117.6727
870 1117.9105I think it's the same thing of like1119.6778
872 1120.5812when I was younger I didn't like my hair and then1123.5223 
874 1123.6939like, not until I cut off the perm did I really know what my hair looked like. You know, [it's just like],1128.7261 
875ROC_se0_ag1_f_031128.2455[Yeah.]1128.7386
876ROC_int_011129.9665it's- it was permed all my life. [And then]1132.8202
877ROC_se0_ag1_f_031132.3026[Mm-hm.]1132.7549
878ROC_int_011133.4485oh, it wasn't really long,1135.0479
880 1135.4069but it wasn't like short cut [so it's just]1137.7011 
881ROC_se0_ag1_f_031137.1555[Yeah.]1137.7011
882ROC_int_011137.9686stupid weird /one/ (laughing).1139.6583
883ROC_se0_ag1_f_031139.8449I understand what you mean, I do.1141.7473
885 1141.8965I don't think anyone likes their hair in high school. I really don't.1144.7304 
886ROC_int_011144.7304Yeah. I wear weaves all the time.1146.7448
887ROC_se0_ag1_f_031147.2344I've never had one.1148.4747
888ROC_int_011148.6799Oh really.1149.5705
889ROC_se0_ag1_f_031149.7559No. I've never had one. I might try my first one out this week. Just cause I wanna try it. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna snatch it out of my [head immediately.]1156.7083
890ROC_int_011155.9249[Yeah. <laugh>]1157.0801
891 1157.3133I feel like that too.1158.4883
892ROC_se0_ag1_f_031158.4883I can't. I- I just- I've had like1161.2255
893 1161.7011tracks. Like a track or two glued in, like [for a photoshoot] and I just-1165.3370
894ROC_int_011163.9847[Mm-hm.]1164.5723
895ROC_se0_ag1_f_031165.5375I couldn't even stand it for a day, I had to rip it out.1168.6057
896ROC_int_011168.6056Yeah.1169.1408
897ROC_se0_ag1_f_031169.1454Feels unnatural to me.1170.4930
898ROC_int_011170.7028Mm-hm.1171.3277
899ROC_se0_ag1_f_031171.3463I feel incredibly ridiculous walking around with hair glued in my head.1175.1967
901 1175.5231And that's not knocking other people who do it.1177.2717 
902ROC_int_011177.4116Mm-hm, [right.]1178.2183
903ROC_se0_ag1_f_031177.8499[Like] I wanna try it seriously and try to commit to it for at least a week.1181.2433
904ROC_int_011181.2713Mm-hm.1181.8402
905ROC_se0_ag1_f_031181.8868But I just feel like everyone can see it.1183.8219
907 1184.1903Like, oh my god,1185.1882 
909 1185.5006how stupid does that girl look with h- with hair glued into her head. [Like],1189.7986 
910ROC_int_011189.5095[Mm-hm.]1190.0924
911ROC_se0_ag1_f_031190.2276she has hair an- let in- and that's where like,1193.2340
913 1193.9661that's what got me.1194.9033 
914ROC_int_011195.0572Mm-hm.1195.5421
915ROC_se0_ag1_f_031195.5841It was like mental for me. Which made me feel like it was like itching and I had to rip it out.1200.6189
916ROC_int_011200.8054Yeah.1201.3789
917ROC_se0_ag1_f_031201.5468But,1201.8499
919 1204.1755I don't know, natural hair comes in a lot of different- I- it took me a long time to realize that natural hair can be straight if that's your texture.1209.6171 
920ROC_int_011209.6405Yeah, [right.]1210.4238
921ROC_se0_ag1_f_031210.2047[Like], I am not gonna feel shitty because my hair doesn't really curl.1213.0339
922ROC_int_011213.0992Mm-hm.1213.6261
923ROC_se0_ag1_f_031213.6587It just is what it [is.] And I'm not gonna feel1216.3772
924ROC_int_011214.5595[Yeah.]1214.9582
925ROC_se0_ag1_f_031216.7491bad about it. [Like],1217.8262
926ROC_int_011217.7096[Mm-hm.]1217.9754
927ROC_se0_ag1_f_031218.5116It was funny cause I1219.7753
929 1220.1203auditioned for a black hair show1221.6698 
931 1221.8309and I1222.2314 
933 1222.5392was told I- they wouldn't let me in.1224.2692 
934ROC_int_011224.4743Ugh.1224.9500
935ROC_se0_ag1_f_031225.1878Because my hair wasn't kinky enough.1226.6752
936ROC_int_011227.0389Oh no.1228.2187
937ROC_se0_ag1_f_031228.5859And it was crazy. I was like,1229.9474
939 1230.3111but I don't have a perm. They thought I had a perm and I didn't.1232.7032 
941 1232.8851[And like I] let them like, I let them go through my head and everything. Like it was kind of1236.7914 
942ROC_int_011232.9037[Yeah.]1233.3514
943ROC_se0_ag1_f_031237.6494demeaning.1238.3162
944ROC_int_011238.3628Yeah.1238.9643
945ROC_se0_ag1_f_031239.8258And they were like, no, like, you can't.1241.4532
947 1241.9195We can't let you in the show. Like we feel like little girls are gonna look at you1245.0063 
949 1245.3001and1245.6917 
951 1245.9575they're not gonna see their own hair. [and I] was like, but that's not fair because,1250.3302 
952ROC_int_011247.9661[Ugh.]1248.2832
953ROC_se0_ag1_f_031251.4959because,1251.8363
955 1252.7118like, w-1253.2424 
957 1253.4911w- how- how could you say that we only come in like one,1256.4009 
959 1256.7371or two1257.3747 
961 1258.2828uh- like, [versions.] I don't even know what to [say. Like and it was crazy.] And I wanted to do it because I felt like I hadn't done work like that in a while.1265.8775 
962ROC_int_011259.5091[Yes.]1259.9055
964 1261.3976[No, yes]1262.6426 
965ROC_se0_ag1_f_031266.6049Like,1266.9080
967 1268.7405it was for charity.1269.7710 
968ROC_int_011269.9202[Mm-hm.]1270.4005
969ROC_se0_ag1_f_031270.0302[And] also I thought it would be really-1272.0966
970 1272.3251I wanted to do it, cause I hadn't done- I hadn't worked with, like1275.4166
972 1275.7384uh, a staff that-1277.0288 
974 1277.1969like a staff of color in while on a [photoshoot or anything.]1279.5282 
975ROC_int_011278.5909[Mm-hm.]1279.1878
976ROC_se0_ag1_f_031279.9432And I was like, this might be fun. I just wanna like get back to this. I started off doing black hair shows.1284.7448
977ROC_int_011284.9779Yeah.1285.3277
978ROC_se0_ag1_f_031285.7380But this one that was like specifically actually for, like it was supposed to uplift and be positive. And it was like1291.7613
980 1291.9385their whole message was like, we want little girls and boys to look on the runway and like see themselves. And I was like,1296.6655 
982 1297.2437there are little girls and boys out there who feel exactly this [way.]1301.1967 
983ROC_int_011301.1174[Mm-hm.]1301.6024
984ROC_se0_ag1_f_031302.3111[And] you're basically1303.9851
985ROC_int_011302.3484[Yeah.]1302.7308
986ROC_se0_ag1_f_031304.5773telling them the same thing. Like what if a little mixed girl comes to this runway show.1307.9801
987ROC_int_011308.4650Mm-hm.1309.0852
988ROC_se0_ag1_f_031310.2210She might see one person who she identifies with and that might be me.1313.8301
989ROC_int_011314.0341Mm-hm.1314.5330
990ROC_se0_ag1_f_031314.5890You can't just discount that you know.1316.0110
992 1316.2877But like, that's why I've had like, I've had issues with my hair forever.1319.2659 
993ROC_int_011319.2659[Mm-hm.]1319.8720
994ROC_se0_ag1_f_031319.4710[And like], I felt the worst. Like, I wanted to cry.1322.1184
995ROC_int_011322.1417No.1322.8132
996ROC_se0_ag1_f_031322.8085I did. I did. Like, I don't know. It was-1325.3770
997 1326.4802taken me so long to get used to it. I think that's why I always shave it off. [I hate it.]1330.0861
998ROC_int_011329.5219[Mm-hm.]1330.0768
999 1330.4172I love [it.]1331.1073
1000ROC_se0_ag1_f_031330.9301[It's] never good enough for whatever-1332.8932
1001ROC_int_011333.0926Mm.1333.7967
1002ROC_se0_ag1_f_031333.9412Whatever. I don't even know what's [standard.]1335.7691
1003ROC_int_011335.4520[Mm-hm.]1336.2307
1004 1336.5618Do you feel like, at least like1338.0912
1006 1338.9573at the- in these like sort of black events that you're still kind of1342.8835 
1008 1343.1819I guess for, uh, lack of a better word, kind of discriminated against. Like-1347.5033 
1009ROC_se0_ag1_f_031347.8577Um,1348.4592
1011 1349.2425no. I never felt like that. [I feel like walking] around with that mind state is1352.7292 
1012ROC_int_011350.6647[Mm-hm.]1351.1590
1013ROC_se0_ag1_f_031353.3121horrible.1353.9053
1014ROC_int_011353.9817Mm-hm.1354.4268
1015ROC_se0_ag1_f_031354.7902And you're just like an angry Facebook person if you walk around and you live your life like [that.]1358.1109
1016ROC_int_011357.9291[Mm-hm.]1358.4770
1017ROC_se0_ag1_f_031358.5454I'm discriminated against, oh my god. Like,1360.3885
1019 1360.6914no. Like [a lot of] times it's not like that. And I refuse to-1363.7486 
1020ROC_int_011361.2418[Mm-hm.]1361.7238
1021ROC_se0_ag1_f_031364.6757I refuse to think that things happen because of that.1368.0569
1022ROC_int_011368.2070Mm-hm.1368.6890
1023ROC_se0_ag1_f_031369.0413So I- I don't tr- like, try- I don't try to dwell there.1372.0623
1024ROC_int_011372.1229Yeah.1372.4600
1026 1372.7386[Mm-hm.]1373.2206 
1027ROC_se0_ag1_f_031372.7491[But-]1373.2232
1028 1373.6262but sometimes it- sometimes it is.1375.3355
1029ROC_int_011375.7543Mm-hm.1376.1915
1030ROC_se0_ag1_f_031376.5807And there have been maybe two or three situations where1379.9013
1032 1380.3807I had to1381.1892 
1034 1382.2112think about it.1382.8670 
1036 1383.4669And I was like, you know what, that did happen [because of that.]1386.2719 
1037ROC_int_011385.4185[Mm-hm.]1385.9097
1038ROC_se0_ag1_f_031386.9613It did.1387.5329
1040 1388.0570But it feels really good not to wake up everyday and think like that, so no. I really don't think that, um,1392.5865 
1042 1392.9230I really don't think that it has been, I mean if anything,1395.1012 
1044 1395.8150I feel like, in- in some situations, I-1398.7589 
1046 1400.8706<ts>1400.9444 
1048 1401.9347hm, there's still- there's still,1403.6408 
1050 1404.0885places and setups where like,1405.5450 
1052 1405.8453a token black person is needed.1407.3433 
1053ROC_int_011407.6989[Mm-hm.]1408.1124
1054ROC_se0_ag1_f_031407.9675[But] I think-1408.6339
1055 1409.2370I think and it's funny, cause1410.6349
1057 1410.9089since we're talking about like, speech and stuff,1412.6920 
1059 1413.0818I think because I sound the way I do, or maybe I look the way I do, like1416.6842 
1061 1417.3657I think,1417.8135 
1063 1418.3034people are comfortable. Like,1419.5202 
1065 1420.8233letting me be that.1421.8084 
1066ROC_int_011422.0349Mm.1422.4800
1067ROC_se0_ag1_f_031422.3778<ts> Like if they need to be inclusive,1424.1518
1068 1424.7734then if I'm included, I think it sets them at ease.1428.0861
1070 1428.8736[Because] I don't think they think they'll have an issue. Like,1431.2566 
1071ROC_int_011428.9105[Okay.]1429.3056
1072ROC_se0_ag1_f_031433.1135relating to me maybe. Even though everyone does1435.2892
1074 1435.4152in the end.1435.9337 
1075ROC_int_011436.0048Mm-hm.1436.5289
1076ROC_se0_ag1_f_031436.6053But like, it just seems to be easier for people.1438.8223
1078 1439.0567Usually1439.4544 
1080 1439.6230people don't know what I am before they see me. And I work a lot on the phone.1442.9410 
1082 1443.3940I work a lot in customer service.1444.8551 
1083ROC_int_011444.9104Mm-hm.1445.3766
1084ROC_se0_ag1_f_031445.6216And1446.1773
1086 1446.6066it sucks, and I- I've learned to notice that too.1449.6902 
1088 1449.8351And- and that's why like, I don't think I'll be doing this for much longer, but.1453.3295 
1089ROC_int_011453.4138Yeah.1453.7720
1090ROC_se0_ag1_f_031454.0716Um,1454.4535
1092 1454.7555yeah. It seems easier for people to1456.6975 
1094 1457.6899relate.1458.2140 
1096 1458.4142A lot of people- like I've worked in places and finally quit.1460.5923 
1098 1461.1395And- and my boss will be like, I didn't know you were black.1463.6601 
1100 1464.4654Then I'm [like, oh.]1465.6217 
1101ROC_int_011464.9158[/Ah/.]1465.3240
1102 1465.8060Yeah.1466.0536
1103ROC_se0_ag1_f_031467.1730[Okay, sorry.]1468.6921
1104ROC_int_011467.7123[<laugh>]1468.4893
1105ROC_se0_ag1_f_031468.8949Sorry that you- you definitely hired a black person for the last six months.1472.5869
1106ROC_int_011472.7027Mm-hm.1473.2480
1107ROC_se0_ag1_f_031473.2506It's kind of like, haha gotchu.1474.5695
1108ROC_int_011474.7539<laugh>1475.0989
1109ROC_se0_ag1_f_031475.5519I'm quitting now, [but gotchu, fuck you, like yeah.] You had a black girl at the front counter [this entire] time and you didn't know.1481.7032
1110ROC_int_011476.3605[Mm-hm, yeah. Right, right.]1478.1587
1112 1480.0894[Mm-hm.]1480.4871 
1113 1481.8402Yeah.1482.2511
1114ROC_se0_ag1_f_031482.3459And I hear a lot of things. Like,1484.3503
1116 1485.2003that I- I feel like I almost shouldn't be hearing.1487.2916 
1117ROC_int_011487.6129Mm-hm.1488.0528
1118ROC_se0_ag1_f_031488.1390Because people don't know,1489.3164
1120 1490.0960or they just assume, or they know, but they don't bother to ask.1492.5316 
1121ROC_int_011492.8372Yeah.1493.1611
1122ROC_se0_ag1_f_031493.2375And so it's funny cause a lot of times like, I'll hear1496.3158
1124 1497.0296conversations that happen that1499.1281 
1126 1499.7707would not be happening if1501.1746 
1128 1501.5532people thought that I would be offended by whatever they were saying.1504.2950 
1129ROC_int_011504.4372Mm.1505.0088
1130ROC_se0_ag1_f_031505.1635I hear stuff like that all the [time.]1507.1732
1131ROC_int_011506.7438[Yeah.]1507.1705
1132ROC_se0_ag1_f_031507.4155And sometimes I just keep my mouth shut and a week later, I'll quit, or I'll leave, or I'll1510.9889
1134 1511.1496leave a project.1512.0313 
1135ROC_int_011512.2525[Mm-hm.]1512.8504
1136ROC_se0_ag1_f_031512.2578[Or I'll just] decide not to1513.8644
1137 1514.7889talk to someone anymore.1515.7338
1138ROC_int_011515.8576Yeah.1516.1947
1139ROC_se0_ag1_f_031516.1974But.1516.4765
1141 1517.5591So it's like it works both ways. Like a gift and a curse.1520.4504 
1142ROC_int_011520.5399[Mm-hm.]1520.9745
1143ROC_se0_ag1_f_031520.8639[Except] for my hair.1521.9054
1144 1522.0630That's probably just a curse.1523.4777
1145ROC_int_011523.4533No [it's] not. It's amazing.1525.8616
1146ROC_se0_ag1_f_031523.8658[But]1524.1476
1147 1525.8695[It's pretty interesting.] Like, how that's worked out.1528.6482
1148ROC_int_011525.9748[<laugh>]1526.9230
1149 1529.2955Yeah.1529.6695
1151 1530.5070Okay, that's interesting.1531.5764 
1153 1531.9576Um,1532.5124 
1155 1532.6140<ts>1532.7085 
1157 1532.9362I wanted to ask- okay so if1535.0234 
1159 1535.5601modeling is sort of not the long term trajectory, what do you see for yourself, in terms of like,1541.4329 
1161 1542.8624the ultimate career or careers plural. [<laugh>]1546.0698 
1162ROC_se0_ag1_f_031545.9618[<ts>]1546.0329
1163 1546.4807Careers.1547.0891
1164ROC_int_011547.1339Yeah.1547.4894
1165ROC_se0_ag1_f_031547.4815Um, I wanna go back to college.1549.0954
1166ROC_int_011549.2271[Mm-hm.]1549.6643
1167ROC_se0_ag1_f_031549.3772[I've]1549.6696
1168 1550.2148fucked off in college.1551.6397
1170 1552.4055Um,1553.0192 
1172 1554.0174my mom pressured me to go. She made me apply to Harvard.1557.0141 
1173ROC_int_011557.6831That's awesome.1558.4469
1174ROC_se0_ag1_f_031558.4910No.1558.9967
1176 1559.2416[I never wanted (laughing) to go.] I never wanted to go. I- god I didn't wanna go.1563.9819 
1177ROC_int_011559.2443[<laugh>]1560.5454
1178ROC_se0_ag1_f_031564.5976Um, and I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ I think just to make her [happy.]1567.6291
1179ROC_int_011567.3789[Mm-hm.]1568.0927
1180ROC_se0_ag1_f_031568.1190But /RD-SCHOOL-3/ never even had the majors that I wanted to do.1570.5994
1181ROC_int_011570.7680Yeah.1571.0893
1182ROC_se0_ag1_f_031571.3520So- and now I'm in debt.1572.4741
1183ROC_int_011573.3327Girl.1573.5961
1185 1573.7725<clap>1573.9069 
1187 1574.4573[<laugh>]1575.2449 
1188ROC_se0_ag1_f_031574.4652[but I'm in debt] for the wrong [reasons. If I'm gonna be-] if I'm gonna be a hundred thousand dollars in debt,1578.5181
1189ROC_int_011575.9738[Yeah, right.]1576.7797
1190 1578.5964[Mm-hm.]1578.9336
1191ROC_se0_ag1_f_031578.9151[I] wanna be happy and be going to school for exactly what I wanna do.1582.0803
1192ROC_int_011582.2147[Mm-hm.]1582.6071
1193ROC_se0_ag1_f_031582.3753[Or] be accomplished (laughing). I'm not- (laughing) and I'm neither of those things.1585.3384
1194 1585.7776I1586.3096
1196 1586.4782used my-1587.6660 
1198 1587.8096my loans1588.8513 
1200 1589.0034to pre-pay my rent1590.4915 
1202 1591.0762and then I realized that I couldn't work a full time job and a part time job and also go to school.1596.1898 
1203ROC_int_011596.4269[Mm-hm.]1597.0300
1204ROC_se0_ag1_f_031596.4295[People who] like, people who are allowed to live at home,1598.8869
1205 1600.1689are so lucky.1601.1171
1206ROC_int_011601.9362[Yes.]1602.3365
1207ROC_se0_ag1_f_031602.1673[Because] like,1603.3078
1208ROC_int_011603.3815Agreed.1603.7476
1209ROC_se0_ag1_f_031603.7555They don't have to worry about anything. I1605.5334
1211 1606.0753got kicked out when I was nineteen.1607.4212 
1213 1608.3667And I1608.9119 
1215 1609.3380had to kind of- I ended up having to choose1611.1869 
1217 1611.3871going to school and also worrying about like, wow I'm super tired because I just worked all day, but guess what, we have a test and I'm not gonna finish my homework because I need to sleep and [like],1620.0162 
1218ROC_int_011619.9267[Mm.]1620.3086
1219ROC_se0_ag1_f_031620.8327It compounds and then it just explodes.1623.4185
1220ROC_int_011623.4632Yeah.1623.8188
1221ROC_se0_ag1_f_031623.9610And so,1624.8486
1223 1625.0593I tried school twice. And I quit twice. And then I was left with all this debt.1629.8279 
1225 1630.1756Debt that I would have rather1631.3213 
1227 1631.7164been in.1632.1799 
1228ROC_int_011632.6191[Mm-hm.]1633.2671
1229ROC_se0_ag1_f_031632.6323[Would rather] have been in1633.8228
1230 1634.1994if1634.4207
1232 1634.5129I were learning something.1636.3276 
1233ROC_int_011636.8168Yeah.1637.1829
1234ROC_se0_ag1_f_031637.2725But I,1637.7308
1236 1638.3313I wasn't learning [anything.]1639.9503 
1237ROC_int_011639.3032[Mm-hm.]1639.9142
1238ROC_se0_ag1_f_031640.7485And, um,1642.1576
1240 1643.0577so I wanna kind of fix that. I wanna go back to school.1645.3913 
1242 1646.7154Probably for creative writing [this time.]1648.8515 
1243ROC_int_011648.2404[I was gonna] say what would it be [for?]1650.0758
1244ROC_se0_ag1_f_031650.0492[Or] for English [literature]1651.4850
1245ROC_int_011651.2950[Mm.]1651.8692
1246ROC_se0_ag1_f_031651.7809[and] psychology.1652.8174
1247ROC_int_011653.2177Yeah.1653.4574
1248ROC_se0_ag1_f_031654.0230I would do those. And I would be really happy doing it. I just-1657.0197
1250 1657.5675like now I know.1658.6685 
1252 1659.0846And if I have a kid,1659.9722 
1254 1661.1331like, I'll just try not to make their life hell. And make them feel like they can stay.1664.8883 
1255ROC_int_011665.4309Mm-hm.1665.9076
1256ROC_se0_ag1_f_031666.0129Like if you're not going to go to school, fine. Like, I'm still not gonna kick you out, but if you are, I'm gonna1670.5260
1258 1671.0739try to be extra supportive of that.1673.3910 
1259ROC_int_011673.5150[Mm-hm.]1674.0978
1260ROC_se0_ag1_f_031673.6361[And] like, considerate and mindful because that matters.1677.1623
1261 1677.3864I would have been-1678.1639
1263 1678.8493I would have gotten straight A's.1679.9871 
1264ROC_int_011680.8905Mm.1681.1423
1265ROC_se0_ag1_f_031681.3568I would have gotten straight A's. And all of the scholarships. And it would have been amazing, but1686.2269
1267 1686.8719<ts>1686.9418 
1269 1687.0211I didn't have that opportunity. So I wanna go back and fix it. I'm probably gonna end up like, being a teacher just like my mom.1691.8798 
1271 1692.7367But1693.2403 
1273 1694.0656maybe like a professor [I] don't know. [I have-]1696.7468 
1274ROC_int_011695.5484[Mm.]1695.7489
1276 1696.2758[Yeah.]1696.6675 
1277ROC_se0_ag1_f_031697.6420I have a1698.1130
1279 1698.4243book of short stories that I'm trying to finish.1700.8023 
1280ROC_int_011700.8070Love it.1701.5158
1281ROC_se0_ag1_f_031701.8608And1702.5043
1283 1703.5430I don't know1704.4849 
1285 1704.9698like, (laughing) if anyone would buy it.1706.4481 
1287 1706.8613I feel like I'm gonna put it on Amazon, it's just gonna like, sit and like be chilling on Amazon forever. And it's gonna [be like-]1712.2101 
1288ROC_int_011711.7951[/No/.]1712.2428
1289ROC_se0_ag1_f_031713.1008You know how they have like the ranks on Amazon. It's gonna be like, twenty-four thousand, like, it's gonna be like, no one's gonna look at it.1718.9562
1291 1719.4411No one's gonna look at it, but I feel like it's gonna be there,1721.3763 
1293 1722.3170and maybe when I die, maybe after I die, people are gonna be like, hey,1726.0584 
1295 1726.6768this is pretty good, [maybe I'll] read this book (laughing).1729.7485 
1296ROC_int_011728.3403[Yeah.]1728.6900
1297 1730.2745[Nah, I think people will get interested.] You have a good following.1733.8752
1298ROC_se0_ag1_f_031730.6738[<laugh>]1731.9914
1299ROC_int_011734.1352I feel like [I'm /??/ right now no?]1736.7827
1300ROC_se0_ag1_f_031735.1796[I don't I feel like, people] just wanna follow me because they wanna see if I'm gonna take like,1739.6467
1301 1740.0466naked pictures, [or, it's- and] I- it's- and I- I'm not going to. Like,1744.0147
1302ROC_int_011741.2700[Mm-hm.]1741.6862
1303ROC_se0_ag1_f_031745.8052I don't know. I feel like people follow me for the wrong [reasons too.]1748.2976
1304ROC_int_011748.0469[Mm-hm.]1748.6578
1305 1749.0168[Yeah.]1749.4085
1306ROC_se0_ag1_f_031749.0448[Like], nobody understands. Nobody gets it. I don't know why I have that many followers on Instagram. Like, I'm not that interesting.1754.5692
1307 1754.8816People unfollow me everyday. I don't get it, but1757.4089
1309 1759.1377I don't-1759.7439 
1310ROC_int_011759.9249Yeah.1760.3174
1311ROC_se0_ag1_f_031760.5645[I never like wanted it.]1762.2199
1312ROC_int_011760.5785[/I think you could leverage it/.]1762.2245
1313 1762.5556[You need /to set goals/.]1763.9824
1314ROC_se0_ag1_f_031762.5742[Leverage it to what? like, that's what I'm trying] to figure out like, [this] year.1765.3755
1315ROC_int_011764.7320[Yeah.]1765.0398
1316ROC_se0_ag1_f_031765.7672I need a plan this year.1766.8303
1318 1767.2733Because I'm twenty-six. I'm gonna be twenty-seven and I don't really do anything. I do a lot, but I also do nothing.1772.9982 
1320 1773.5204Because in the end like, it doesn't count.1775.3016 
1322 1775.9906[It counts], but it's not1777.3475 
1323ROC_int_011775.9999[Hm.]1776.3776
1324ROC_se0_ag1_f_031777.8511counting towards a goal1779.3808
1326 1779.5104that1779.8095 
1328 1781.4369matches up with my age. Where I feel like I am.1783.7159 
1329ROC_int_011784.8396[Okay.]1785.2080
1330ROC_se0_ag1_f_031784.8816[Like], I can't just do shit anymore cause I feel like doing it.1787.2084
1331 1787.9813[I can],1788.5128
1332ROC_int_011787.9906[Mm-hm.]1788.4616
1333ROC_se0_ag1_f_031788.9651but I feel like it has to add up to something now,1790.6298
1335 1790.9329cause I'm getting old.1791.8935 
1337 1792.5276So,1792.9100 
1339 1793.4031yeah. Maybe I can leverage it into something. But like,1795.6541 
1341 1795.8502when I think about like,1796.7790 
1343 1798.3737all these girls, with like the huge butts like, hosting everything like, I- I don't know, I just don't wanna do that.1803.9820 
1345 1804.3644On the flip side though,1805.3809 
1347 1805.6840I could host something1806.9984 
1349 1807.2050and it would probably be really fun.1808.6997 
1350ROC_int_011808.7604Mm-hm.1809.1520
1351ROC_se0_ag1_f_031809.2919But1809.6883
1353 1811.1711I just feel like it's incidental.1812.4907 
1355 1813.5946Like I can if I decide to put makeup on, or do my hair or like,1816.5789 
1357 1817.7435get dressed up.1818.6248 
1359 1819.0398[I- it w- it] would happen. And maybe somebody like- if I did that on a regular basis,1823.2783 
1360ROC_int_011819.0398[Mm-hm.]1819.5667
1361ROC_se0_ag1_f_031823.8181maybe someone come along and ask me to do it. Like, if I was like a-1826.7348
1363 1826.9379I'm still like,1828.0551 
1365 1828.2757not a popular girl.1829.7163 
1367 1829.9229I'm still who I was in high school in that sense like, I don't care.1832.6531 
1369 1833.4738And it feels good not to care.1834.7141 
1370ROC_int_011834.8540Mm-hm.1835.2504
1371ROC_se0_ag1_f_031835.5608<ts>1835.6327
1373 1835.7668But,1836.1106 
1375 1836.3278it's something that I thought about leveraging. I may find a way to use it,1839.8561 
1377 1840.2805but1840.6675 
1379 1840.9566I just like really, just wanna be happy.1843.2309 
1381 1843.6786[I'm- I'm] done with like,1845.1241 
1382ROC_int_011843.6786[Mm-hm.]1844.3081
1383ROC_se0_ag1_f_031846.7934uh, everything else.1848.1254
1385 1848.2760I think being happy is most important now.1850.8490 
1387 1851.1297Whatever that is. Whatever that looks like, or [ends up being.]1853.7260 
1388ROC_int_011853.1575[Mm-hm.]1853.7400
1389ROC_se0_ag1_f_031854.2984That's really all I care about now.1855.9024
1390ROC_int_011856.3360Yeah.1856.7417
1392 1857.1707And1857.5624 
1394 1858.1219do you have like an ideal1859.6933 
1396 1860.0372school, or place even that you would like to be like Chicago, or [I don't know, /inaudible/.]1865.6420 
1397ROC_se0_ag1_f_031865.1384[Kind of] don't wanna stay in the States. I've never wanted to stay in the States. I- for the last ten years I wanted to-1870.5742
1398 1871.2317I've kind of always wanted to move to England.1873.1251
1400 1874.3967Always.1874.9111 
1402 1875.1422[Always], always, always, but1876.4810 
1403ROC_int_011875.1614[Yeah.]1875.4411
1404ROC_se0_ag1_f_031876.7281I don't even have my passport right now. That's one thing I have to do.1879.0071
1406 1879.3755I'm gonna- I'm- I'm trying to set small goals. And I think [if I can do] it by the end of January like, at least get my passport,1885.2519 
1407ROC_int_011882.1266[Mm-hm.]1882.6209
1408ROC_se0_ag1_f_031885.4340I'll feel good inside.1886.5505
1409ROC_int_011886.5832Yeah.1887.0728
1410ROC_se0_ag1_f_031887.7489Like, but I- I do. I don't really wanna stay here. I've never felt like I've belonged here at all.1892.3827
1411ROC_int_011892.8163Yeah.1893.2033
1413 1893.6836And by here you mean like, [Rochester? cause-]1896.4429 
1414ROC_se0_ag1_f_031895.6595[Well definitely] not Rochester, but also just1898.1076
1415 1898.3873the [States], at all.1899.9681
1416ROC_int_011898.9982[Okay.]1899.3992
1417ROC_se0_ag1_f_031900.4763I just, I always read books. I never really watched TV but1903.3895
1419 1904.1076we didn't have cable so I ended up watching PBS [and it's all like], British television. And I was like, wow like I wanna go there.1909.6413 
1420ROC_int_011906.3131[Mm-hm.]1906.8074
1421ROC_se0_ag1_f_031910.1076People sound really nice there.1911.5577
1422ROC_int_011911.6929[Mm-hm.]1912.0660
1423ROC_se0_ag1_f_031912.0240[To] me like, people sounded educated and kind and like,1914.6743
1424 1914.8354warm.1915.5946
1426 1915.9583They always sounded like they were telling a story.1918.1219 
1428 1918.5556[Sounded like-] sounded like listening to an audio book all the time.1921.7205 
1429ROC_int_011918.5556[Mm.]1918.9333
1430ROC_se0_ag1_f_031922.1076And I was like, that sounds amazing. I wanna be there. Like, (laughing)1925.0498
1431ROC_int_011925.4415Yeah.1925.9358
1432ROC_se0_ag1_f_031926.3450And-1927.0351
1434 1927.7607and then- and then when I realized like, black people can be British too1930.5556 
1435ROC_int_011930.8913Mm-hm.1931.2877
1436ROC_se0_ag1_f_031931.4136Like,1931.7633
1438 1932.3357it's just so, fucking awesome. [Like, when I] was really little-1935.7023 
1439ROC_int_011934.4433[Mm-hm.]1935.0308
1440ROC_se0_ag1_f_031936.0706when I was really really little, I thought they were only white.1937.8332
1442 1938.3310And then I was like,1939.4594 
1444 1940.0423hey, I [was like],1941.2593 
1445ROC_int_011940.6764[Yeah.]1941.2640
1446ROC_se0_ag1_f_031941.7955like the first time I heard Naomi Campbell talk, I was like-1943.8025
1448 1944.5315I walk like, oh, she's English, like1945.9539 
1450 1946.0683I- I don't know. And- and-1947.5076 
1452 1947.7983I feel like it's more1948.8354 
1454 1949.8694I feel like everything's more open there.1951.8091 
1455ROC_int_011951.8651Mm-hm.1952.3780
1456ROC_se0_ag1_f_031952.4246I really do.1953.0615
1458 1953.2121Seems like it.1953.9587 
1460 1954.6861I started watching British television and I realized there are so many more interracial couples, just randomly that you see. Just watching television. It's not weird.1961.5068 
1462 1961.7388Why is it so weird here?1962.8206 
1463ROC_int_011962.9045Mm-hm.1963.2446
1464ROC_se0_ag1_f_031963.4967Like why is it so,1964.7576
1466 1964.9187fucking weird?1965.6929 
1468 1966.2758Why do we have to still even wonder1968.6341 
1470 1968.9698about it?1969.4594 
1471ROC_int_011969.4781Mm-hm.1969.8698
1472ROC_se0_ag1_f_031970.2101And it's- it's been like that for so long.1972.0800
1474 1972.7607Um, over there. It's just like an example. It just seems like, some of the things that we worry about here, might not be1978.6069 
1476 1979.0778things that1979.6001 
1478 1979.9626people worry about over there.1981.1190 
1479ROC_int_011981.1377Yeah.1981.4734
1480ROC_se0_ag1_f_031982.1915[it just seems] so interesting.1983.7442
1481ROC_int_011982.1915[I agree.]1982.7977
1482 1983.7489Yeah.1984.1779
1483ROC_se0_ag1_f_031984.4903I would love to go there. And I'm in a relationship now.1987.1144
1485 1987.9210For the first time in a very long time. And I just- yeah, and I just don't know if1991.6607 
1487 1992.3715he would wanna go there. But, I know I'm gonna end up there.1995.0376 
1488ROC_int_011995.4665Yeah.1995.7463
1489ROC_se0_ag1_f_031997.0473I mean hopefully he would wanna go with me,1998.9311
1491 1999.6480but1999.8858 
1493 2000.5899I have to end up there. I- I honestly feel like, I'm overdue. Now I'm feeling like,2004.7725 
1495 2005.9045it's a little- not too late,2007.3313 
1497 2007.5412but now I feel like I'm late for something. I [almost] feel like I'm late for an appointment because like I should be somewhere else.2012.8697 
1498ROC_int_012009.6348[Hm.]2009.9099
1499 2012.9956Mm-hm.2013.4899
1500ROC_se0_ag1_f_032013.4665I don't think I ever should have really,2014.6836
1501 2014.9633stayed this long [here.]2016.7819
1502ROC_int_012016.3902[Mm-hm.]2016.9905
1503ROC_se0_ag1_f_032018.8604So,2019.2194
1505 2019.5738maybe one day it'll happen.2020.8095 
1506ROC_int_012021.3410Yeah.2021.6954
1508 2022.5301So where do you meet the new [guy? (laughed)]2024.6132 
1509ROC_se0_ag1_f_032024.5386[Oh.]2025.1868
1510 2025.9188um,2026.5717
1512 2027.7887we- I worked at a pizza shop,2030.3055 
1514 2031.3826um, over the summer.2033.1032 
1516 2033.9472And he delivered pizzas there.2035.4615 
1518 2036.1096And then he photographed me.2037.1774 
1520 2037.9935And then,2038.4085 
1522 2039.2851it was like this weird attraction. I spent so long trying to convince him just to like me.2043.2381 
1524 2043.5924I had to work. And [I liked-] I liked to work.2046.0172 
1525ROC_int_012044.5110[<laugh>]2045.0659
1526ROC_se0_ag1_f_032046.4590And it was just,2047.6900
1528 2048.9583he- he's younger than I am too. Which is crazy, [cause]2051.6115 
1529ROC_int_012051.1405[Mm-hm.]2051.6348
1530ROC_se0_ag1_f_032052.5556that's not- I- that's not my type at all. I can't even deal with guys my [age.]2056.1647
1531ROC_int_012055.9502[Mm-hm.]2056.4072
1532ROC_se0_ag1_f_032056.3978Much less younger, but2057.5076
1533 2058.2805he never felt younger or seemed younger.2060.3835
1535 2061.1062And I just-2061.6984 
1537 2062.3652We met there and we both quit. <exhale>2064.2619 
1538ROC_int_012064.3131[<laugh>]2064.9799
1539ROC_se0_ag1_f_032064.7468[Cause I] think we both realized like,2066.2716
1540 2067.3767that we were exceptional individuals and we didn't belong in a2069.7721
1542 2070.0287pizza shop with racist ass people who ran this pizza shop. [And like],2073.4513 
1543ROC_int_012073.0409[Mm.]2073.4793
1544ROC_se0_ag1_f_032074.9889we're like, hey, serve this slice to that black guy over there.2077.2970
1546 2078.0571And then when I quit, nobody realized that I was black.2080.4025 
1547ROC_int_012080.5552Mm.2081.0402
1548ROC_se0_ag1_f_032081.4412Oh hey, did you not think that was offensive, or weird?2085.0316
1549ROC_int_012085.0876Mm-hm.2085.6285
1550ROC_se0_ag1_f_032085.8896Did you2086.4771
1552 2086.8024notice me ignoring you, or walking away when I heard you say crazy shit like that. Like,2091.2414 
1554 2091.7870it was just a weird, weird, weird, wrong, setup.2095.1431 
1556 2095.3203And it was like the twilight zone, but somehow we me there. Like,2098.3232 
1558 2098.5890It was [literally] like a really dysfunctional business,2101.2177 
1559ROC_int_012098.8128[Hm.]2099.0646
1560ROC_se0_ag1_f_032101.6514that's part of like a sitcom on TV.2103.4886
1561ROC_int_012103.6611Yeah.2104.0155
1562ROC_se0_ag1_f_032104.0528You know like the cafe that- F- that Friends was filmed at?2106.6069
1563ROC_int_012106.9426Mm-hm.2107.3810
1564ROC_se0_ag1_f_032107.3763Like what if they did a show about2109.1146
1565 2109.3912the staff of the cafe, but the2111.1439
1567 2111.3946staff of the cafe live in Upstate New York and they were just, like racist and [prejudice and] weird.2115.9269 
1568ROC_int_012115.0798[Hm.]2115.4886
1569 2117.0495[Yeah.]2117.5251
1570ROC_se0_ag1_f_032117.0775[And dysfunctional], a- a- [and] like (laughing) that's what it [was.] It was like, do I live- are- er- i- every time I come to work it's like, am I in a TV show right now?2124.6675
1571ROC_int_012118.6349[Yeah.]2118.9566
1573 2119.9405[Yeah.]2120.3182 
1574ROC_se0_ag1_f_032125.0406Is this real life? Like, how the fuck do I work here?2127.6098
1576 2128.1787But2128.5331 
1578 2129.2407we just met in this bizarre place and then it's just kind of like developed from there. And I finally-2133.0223 
1580 2134.1134After like months and months and months of trying, we finally just like2138.0104 
1582 2139.1435came together.2140.4585 
1584 2140.9108He finally-2141.6195 
1586 2141.9261finally listened to me and like2143.4975 
1588 2144.1830fell into my trap. [No, I] didn't trap him. I just2147.7536 
1589ROC_int_012145.8150[<laugh>]2146.3419
1590ROC_se0_ag1_f_032148.2665for once, like in my whole life,2149.9143
1592 2150.1700I decided to try2151.2834 
1594 2152.2537a whole different approach.2153.4097 
1596 2153.7303And2154.3598 
1598 2155.9871And to- to- just try being good.2158.1134 
1599ROC_int_012158.5844Mm.2159.0227
1600ROC_se0_ag1_f_032159.0169Maybe just try being a good person.2160.6162
1601ROC_int_012160.7142Mm-hm.2161.1385
1602ROC_se0_ag1_f_032161.3343Just fucking try.2162.1736
1604 2162.9150And-2163.5632 
1606 2164.2020and I realized that I wanted to. It wasn't work.2166.1453 
1608 2167.1431When I look back, it was a lot of work,2169.1668 
1610 2170.1041getting him to open up to me2171.7721 
1612 2172.2805over all of these months, but2173.8459 
1614 2174.2486kind of felt good.2175.1109 
1615ROC_int_012175.5026Mm-hm.2175.9735
1616ROC_se0_ag1_f_032176.0155And I figured at this point,2177.2931
1618 2178.3085if I can't be a2179.6934 
1620 2180.7518completely good person and just try this and see if it works,2183.9261 
1622 2184.3411like I needed it to be like, the control in an experiment.2187.2694 
1623ROC_int_012187.7870[Yeah.]2188.1973
1624ROC_se0_ag1_f_032187.7917[Like] I need to do this and see if I can do this.2190.1499
1625 2190.6769But if I can do this,2191.6234
1627 2192.2622maybe I'm not like, as much of a shit person as I think I am.2195.3631 
1629 2195.8608And, and then I enjoyed it. And it felt good and it was a lot of work, but it didn't feel like work. And I think when it doesn't feel like a lot of work,2203.5908 
1631 2204.8498then you do love someone.2206.1600 
1632ROC_int_012206.5284Mm.2206.8222
1633ROC_se0_ag1_f_032206.8350Cause if you find yourself like, oh hell no like, why am I doing this. I'm doing too much. Like,2211.3394
1635 2211.9782w- when it comes to a person, [I don't think] you love them.2214.3271 
1636ROC_int_012213.2127[Mm.]2213.6697
1637 2215.5675Mm.2215.8333
1639 2217.1482Hm. And when you say good,2218.8615 
1641 2219.2012what does good look like to you?2220.8028 
1642ROC_se0_ag1_f_032221.5908Um,2222.2016
1644 2223.9082just-2224.3466 
1646 2225.5904Okay, when I say good, that's reductive,2227.7680 
1648 2228.1037but2228.4392 
1650 2228.7719i- it's also like, an umbrella word.2231.0133 
1651ROC_int_012231.0413Mm-hm.2231.5030
1652ROC_se0_ag1_f_032231.8935Trying to simplify it.2233.0779
1654 2233.4416I guess2234.0244 
1656 2234.8218just, um,2235.9782 
1658 2236.4678I hate when people say like2237.7310 
1660 2237.8655selfless.2238.5510 
1662 2239.0499[I don't-] I don't think it's necessarily good to be selfless at all.2241.7039 
1663ROC_int_012239.0669[Mm-hm.]2239.4481
1664ROC_se0_ag1_f_032242.4678But2242.7289
1666 2244.8447when you really feel like2245.9589 
1668 2246.2075you don't want the other person to be2248.9294 
1670 2249.7543I don't know like, hungry or tired, or like if they're cold and you're just like oh like here, I don't want you do be cold, cover up. Or if you know they're hungry so you decided to cook. Like,2258.2722 
1672 2259.5126and I was doing all this like, was before I even thought he ever liked me.2262.6356 
1674 2263.4702[But I was like], You know what,2264.5427 
1675ROC_int_012263.4889[Mm-hm.]2264.0111
1676ROC_se0_ag1_f_032265.2188<ts> I'm gonna prove to you2266.4312
1678 2267.0140that2267.3684 
1680 2268.8407there is one person out there2270.7059 
1682 2271.5079at least one,2272.5151 
1684 2273.5398which means that if there's me, there's more.2275.7686 
1685ROC_int_012276.0624[Mm-hm.]2276.5473
1686ROC_se0_ag1_f_032276.3189[I] just happened to be here.2277.2748
1687 2278.0395But2278.3799
1689 2279.7170I guess when I say2280.5954 
1691 2280.8546good, I decided to give what I needed.2282.9670 
1693 2283.8343Without having what I need2285.5130 
1695 2286.0387but giving it because I need it.2287.3770 
1697 2288.3562cause in some way, it is fulfilling.2289.9322 
1699 2291.3390It-2291.6307 
1701 2291.8258I didn't do with the expectation that I would get it back,2294.1184 
1702ROC_int_012294.4401Mm.2294.7945
1703ROC_se0_ag1_f_032295.1582but I think that's why I got it [back, eventually.] It took w- a really long time, but2299.6847
1704ROC_int_012296.5011[Yeah.]2296.7855
1705ROC_se0_ag1_f_032300.7898I think if I know what I need, or I know what I grew up without, or I haven't had.2305.1531
1707 2306.7758Not to say that the other person is deficient, everyone has different needs, but I think if you just give what you're missing, it does feel good.2313.0416 
1708ROC_int_012313.4007Mm.2313.7690
1709ROC_se0_ag1_f_032314.0395Because it- I feel like it puts out into the air like,2316.3231
1711 2316.7055maybe fucking someone on this planet will give that back to you. Or just is capable of giving that back. Just cause you didn't meet anyone up until now who gave it back, doesn't mean you can't give it to someone else.2327.2612 
1712ROC_int_012327.5864Mm-hm.2328.1180
1713ROC_se0_ag1_f_032328.5376So it kind of made me feel like stronger because of that.2330.8971
1714ROC_int_012331.3540Yeah.2331.7550
1715ROC_se0_ag1_f_032332.1840[And then it] worked.2333.1166
1716ROC_int_012332.1948[/??/]2332.6605
1717ROC_se0_ag1_f_032333.5211It did.2333.9874
1718ROC_int_012334.1133That sounds like a really good relationship then (laughing).2337.0090
1719ROC_se0_ag1_f_032337.3400Um, I have to say that I- it's still like, I kind of like embarked on that whole journey for selfish reasons.2342.9670
1721 2343.3354I did it for self improvement.2344.5710 
1722ROC_int_012344.8322Mm-hm.2345.1865
1724 2346.2159I mean- and I think that's what we all do though, at some level. <laugh>2349.0882 
1725ROC_se0_ag1_f_032349.7970Yeah.2350.3053
1727 2350.7005I mean you're right, but2352.0993 
1729 2353.2091I tried to keep that goal in mind and I tried to think that even if I got my heart broken, I still kno- at least know that I can-2358.8734 
1731 2359.8479I can try to be with someone without manipulation, [or riding] on the coat tails of something else, or like-2365.8059 
1732ROC_int_012362.9196[Mm.]2363.4046
1733 2365.9661Mm-hm.2366.5753
1734ROC_se0_ag1_f_032369.3160Like, I think it's gonna be a- a lot easier for me. I could take advantage of a lot of situations.2374.4237
1736 2374.6794I could be a certain kind of girl I guess. But I'm just not so,2377.9365 
1738 2378.5054fuck it. I just have to like,2379.8903 
1740 2382.6356try things a different way. And it felt good not to be manipulative, or like,2386.5757 
1742 2389.1765just get what I want, any other way, other than honesty.2392.4824 
1743ROC_int_012392.7482Mm-hm.2393.3124
1744ROC_se0_ag1_f_032393.4710That feels good.2394.2066
1745ROC_int_012394.4304Yeah.2394.8780
1747 2395.5308That's awesome.2396.3515 
1749 2396.6778That's great <laugh>.2398.2307 
1750ROC_se0_ag1_f_032398.3286Thanks <laugh>.2399.3915
1752 2399.7627Even still if I get my heart broken, it's gonna suck,2402.1463 
1754 2402.8644but2403.2281 
1756 2405.0502I still have England.2405.9454 
1757ROC_int_012406.4630Yes.2407.0925
1758ROC_se0_ag1_f_032407.1625I literally- I think at this point,2409.0183
1760 2411.4092I think if this doesn't work out, I'm just gonna leave.2413.7453 
1761ROC_int_012414.0950Mm-hm.2414.4867
1762ROC_se0_ag1_f_032414.4914There's nothing left.2415.6338
1764 2416.5710Which sound like devastating, but it's not.2419.2604 
1766 2419.9552I just literally think I'd finish up my lease,2421.9835 
1768 2422.3892and2422.6177 
1770 2423.0560fucking just go.2424.0387 
1771ROC_int_012424.4164Mm-hm.2424.7894
1772ROC_se0_ag1_f_032424.9340And I think that's hopeful. I don't think it's2426.7385
1774 2427.2561like, oh my god I have nothing without you. Like, don't leave me. Like no, if you wanna leave,2431.3583 
1776 2432.4634consider what you're walking out on,2433.8623 
1778 2434.1980I hope it makes you feel like shit later.2435.8207 
1779ROC_int_012435.9268<laugh>2437.1158
1780ROC_se0_ag1_f_032437.2044But, um,2438.2862
1782 2438.5893bye.2439.1655 
1784 2439.3617There's like a whole- there's a whole world.2441.3404 
1785ROC_int_012442.4957Mm-hm.2442.9433
1786ROC_se0_ag1_f_032443.1765So,2443.6008
1788 2444.9810I'm really hopeful, but at the same time,2447.4261 
1790 2447.7098I feel like I'm2448.5283 
1792 2448.7219old enough2449.2603 
1794 2449.4783to not2450.2023 
1796 2451.3773fall apart over it. Or if I fall apart,2453.5689 
1798 2454.2765put myself back together.2455.4049 
1799ROC_int_012455.6894Yeah.2456.0251
1800ROC_se0_ag1_f_032458.0348So.2458.7529
1802 2459.4139A- and it won't be-2460.4211 
1804 2461.0879won't be the same. When you have to put yourself back together over and over and over again, you never do it the same way. It's impossible.2466.3977 
1805ROC_int_012466.5889Mm-hm.2467.1298
1806ROC_se0_ag1_f_032467.4842the pieces don't fit anymore, but2468.9810
1808 2469.6431the- they just become something else, they just fit into something else.2472.6822 
1810 2472.9806[You are] someone else, but2474.3748 
1811ROC_int_012472.9806[Mm-hm.]2473.5635
1812ROC_se0_ag1_f_032475.5732it'll be okay.2476.2680
1813ROC_int_012478.4584Mm-hm.2479.0879
1815 2479.5868Yeah.2480.0577 
1817 2481.4333Okay,2481.9265 
1819 2482.2627cool.2482.8025 
1821 2483.1382Um,2483.6109 
1823 2485.0272so I guess I wanna turn to asking a few more questions about2488.7436 
1825 2489.2145your thoughts on Rochester. Like,2491.6707 
1827 2492.2629um,2492.9064 
1829 2496.1553what do you feel like are the best aspects of Rochester, or- and what2501.4808 
1831 2501.6454do you think could use improvement I [guess?]2504.5520 
1832ROC_se0_ag1_f_032504.3235[Hm.] <laugh> Well-2506.2773
1833ROC_int_012506.8835If there are any best for you (laughing).2509.3676
1834ROC_se0_ag1_f_032509.3956There are. I didn't even start to like- <clears throat>2512.1421
1836 2512.5244uh, this sucks cause I have a cold.2514.5470 
1838 2515.2557Um,2515.7299 
1840 2515.9712I didn't even start to like the city that I lived in until I was maybe twenty-five.2519.4413 
1841ROC_int_012519.9268Mm.2520.2439
1842ROC_se0_ag1_f_032520.5003And I realized that it's not completely shitty.2522.3282
1844 2523.6291And it actually is some people's goal to live here. Some people, wanna move to Rochester.2527.4516 
1846 2527.9552It took me until twenty-five to realize that, cause I was like, ew what the fuck, who wants to be here. Like,2532.5516 
1848 2532.7384why'd-2533.1161 
1850 2533.2947what-2533.6502 
1852 2533.8375no, but.2534.8971 
1854 2535.7868I mean,2536.3044 
1856 2537.6753um,2538.1882 
1858 2538.9238has it's weird artsy,2540.2739 
1860 2540.5085quirky things. And like, I fit in on that scene.2543.1624 
1861ROC_int_012543.3582Yeah.2543.7685
1862ROC_se0_ag1_f_032544.1602And2544.6825
1864 2545.2129i-2545.6326 
1866 2545.9823it's like,2546.5978 
1868 2547.7448our whole high school was like that,2549.3162 
1870 2549.6287even though like, within it there was still like- there was still like a caste system <laugh>.2553.5816 
1872 2553.9920You know like, (laughing)2554.6728 
1873ROC_int_012554.6728Mm-hm.2555.2929
1874ROC_se0_ag1_f_032555.4421but still, like, it was high school so of course.2557.8564
1876 2558.2201But [I feel] like there are parts of Rochester that are like2560.8919 
1877ROC_int_012558.5185[Right.]2558.8729
1878ROC_se0_ag1_f_032561.3302/RD-SCHOOL-4/. Like they are artsy and quirky and weird and like different. And I do appreciate that about our city. Cause those are the people who would probably talk to me and start a conversation, like.2569.6465
1879ROC_int_012569.6652Mm-hm.2570.2201
1880ROC_se0_ag1_f_032570.3506Those are the people that2571.4138
1882 2572.1738I might find a friend2573.3871 
1884 2573.5762w- within.2574.3887 
1886 2575.2082And2575.9217 
1888 2576.2434there are some really talented artists here. And- and the art scene obviously needs improvement, but,2580.9436 
1890 2581.8983um,2582.3693 
1892 2583.2179it's really, like, there are some really talented2585.3909 
1894 2586.3736artists here. And I've seen beautiful art here and,2588.5605 
1896 2589.4511um,2589.9127 
1898 2592.9564I appreciate how affordable it is to live here.2595.4744 
1899ROC_int_012595.7355Mm-hm.2596.1925
1900ROC_se0_ag1_f_032596.3883[Because] I know that it's expensive in other places. And I appreciate the fact that I can like,2601.7635
1901ROC_int_012596.3977[<ts> It is.]2597.1470
1902ROC_se0_ag1_f_032602.7380split a really nice brand new three bedroom with two other people and have my rent only be three-twenty a month.2608.7147
1903ROC_int_012608.7380Mm, yeah.2609.9597
1904ROC_se0_ag1_f_032610.2302Like,2610.5752
1906 2611.0870you know, even if it's not my own place2613.0455 
1908 2613.2767and even if it's not,2614.1738 
1910 2614.6728you know, me living alone, or me living with my boyfriend, like2617.2791 
1912 2617.4437it's really nice.2618.6397 
1914 2619.2226You can like, make a home here. And it's not expensive and in other places it's just like, oh my god. like part of the reason why I haven't left is because I've never felt like I've been able to save up enough money to be okay,2628.7291 
1916 2629.9683somewhere else.2630.7517 
1917ROC_int_012630.7517Mm-hm.2631.2552
1918ROC_se0_ag1_f_032631.4744Um, without being in school or2633.0318
1920 2634.3654just in any case even if I were in school, nobody wants to go somewhere and be broke. Like,2638.2018 
1922 2638.6355nobody wants to do that. Like I'm done with this struggle.2640.8037 
1923ROC_int_012641.1010Listen. [<laugh>]2642.6537
1924ROC_se0_ag1_f_032642.1455[I'm done with] this struggle (laughing). And it doesn't have to be a struggle.2645.0645
1925 2645.2743It really doesn't. Even if it means that you have to stay in your hometown a little longer which [is what I've] done.2649.6889
1926ROC_int_012648.6696[Mm.]2649.1050
1927ROC_se0_ag1_f_032650.6588And I- I'm starting to feel2651.9224
1929 2652.4773weird about it.2653.2793 
1931 2653.9869But that's like this year,2655.2041 
1933 2655.6384cause I'm twenty-six. Like,2656.9292 
1935 2657.5214you might have to stay in your home town a little longer and it's okay.2659.9170 
1937 2661.0874Just to make sure like, everything is in line. So,2663.7592 
1939 2664.5088I have started to appreciate this city.2666.7563 
1941 2668.0759And2668.4443 
1943 2669.1344I think it's really great for people who2671.8657 
1945 2672.9055are at a certain level of income.2674.7567 
1946ROC_int_012675.5028Mm.2676.0203
1947ROC_se0_ag1_f_032676.3328I think it's terrible for people who aren't2678.7283
1949 2679.0501[sometimes.]2679.7728 
1950ROC_int_012679.0501[Mm.]2679.4418
1951 2680.4210And where do you think those people I guess live2682.6172
1953 2682.8783/uh/ generally? Who-2684.2667 
1954ROC_se0_ag1_f_032685.0734Um, well, when I was sixteen I lived on the East Side.2688.2582
1956 2688.6487In- in the hood. It was legitimately that.2691.3080 
1958 2691.5251I hate people say it's the hood and it's like Culver Road.2694.3281 
1960 2694.7151No it's not.2695.3166 
1962 2695.7771You've never lived in a place where someone got shot and there are bullet holes in your- in your bedroom and people are chasing you because they want your coat and they don't have one and it's cold. Like,2704.6961 
1963ROC_int_012704.6536Mm-hm.2704.9407
1964ROC_se0_ag1_f_032705.7266that is the hood to me.2706.9996
1965ROC_int_012707.0648Yeah.2707.3912
1966ROC_se0_ag1_f_032707.5579And [it is.]2708.2807
1967ROC_int_012707.7585[Mm-hm.]2708.2667
1968ROC_se0_ag1_f_032709.2506The hood is not somewhere with slightly broke down buildings which are now trendy.2713.2514
1970 2713.8610[I mean],2714.5325 
1971ROC_int_012713.8610[Yeah.]2714.5325
1972ROC_se0_ag1_f_032714.8775that is not the hood.2716.0759
1973ROC_int_012716.5142[Mm-hm.]2716.9199
1974ROC_se0_ag1_f_032716.5282[the worst-] w- terrible things can happen to you in really beautiful places so,2720.7143
1975 2721.9640um,2722.4350
1977 2724.1136I think that2725.2315 
1979 2727.2273like, places deep on the West Side and deep on the East Side are probably like in the city.2731.3446 
1981 2731.9030Yes [like],2733.0594 
1982ROC_int_012732.4113[Mm-hm.]2733.0454
1983ROC_se0_ag1_f_032733.8941but other than that,2734.9246
1985 2737.4507like the numbered streets. first street, second street, third street, fourth street are all terrible. [Obviously (laughing).]2742.1183 
1986ROC_int_012741.5941[<laugh>]2742.0739
1987ROC_se0_ag1_f_032742.8352Um,2743.2681
1989 2743.4292Hudson.2744.3367 
1991 2745.7309Even though, sometimes and I don't really have cause to drive down there anymore2750.0149 
1993 2750.6397I've noticed there's a lot more art over there,2752.3137 
1995 2752.7054than there was before. There are a bunch of [murals. And] like2755.7491 
1996ROC_int_012754.3747[That's great.]2755.0092
1997ROC_se0_ag1_f_032756.3133huge paintings on buildings. And it just- it looks really nice and I don't know if it- that's changed anything, but at least someones bothered to like,2763.1527
1999 2763.4091to do that and I like that a lot.2764.9945 
2000ROC_int_012765.1997Mm-hm.2765.8618
2001ROC_se0_ag1_f_032765.9084And it made me feel safer. And more relaxed.2768.7750
2003 2769.3485Even though there's like shit going on everywhere, like, when I was there, I was like oh this is nice.2773.6277 
2004ROC_int_012773.7212[Mm-hm.]2774.1921
2005ROC_se0_ag1_f_032774.1268[Someone] cared to do this, even in a place that's considered the worst area.2777.8338
2006ROC_int_012778.0996Yeah.2778.4913
2007ROC_se0_ag1_f_032778.6778So,2779.1255
2009 2779.4927that was really nice, but I would say those areas are probably considered the worst.2783.1950 
2011 2783.9131And then obviously like, the suburbs and Pittsford and Victor and2787.5956 
2013 2788.3464those are the best.2789.6473 
2014ROC_int_012790.0110Mm-hm.2790.7105
2015ROC_se0_ag1_f_032790.8539Um,2791.5346
2017 2793.4464I guess to people.2794.8406 
2018ROC_int_012795.4328Yeah. And so, I wanna ask you this question cause I've gotten it several times,2800.2111
2020 2800.7847when I was an undergrad, people asked me, they were like, is Rochester segregated?2805.3718 
2022 2805.9873And I'm like,2807.1530 
2024 2807.4561for me I didn't really realize it, cause I just2810.6663 
2026 2811.0831grew up in it. [But] do you feel like it's segregated? or do you feel like it's kind of diverse or there are pockets of2816.8589 
2027ROC_se0_ag1_f_032811.8428[Yeah.]2812.3230
2028 2817.6982[There are pockets of-], there- there are pockets of diversity.2821.2642
2029ROC_int_012817.9432[/unintelligible/]2818.7474
2030ROC_se0_ag1_f_032821.8051But2822.3413
2032 2822.7330i- yeah. It's definitely se- segregated.2825.5680 
2033ROC_int_012825.5867Mm-hm.2826.0250
2034ROC_se0_ag1_f_032826.4948And I realized that pretty early on.2829.1900
2036 2831.1857And it's, uh, not uncomfortable because I did grow up here.2835.0920 
2037ROC_int_012835.3112Mm-hm.2835.7169
2038ROC_se0_ag1_f_032835.8148Doesn't have to be uncomfortable. Um,2837.7546
2040 2839.5766Unless you make it uncomfortable.2841.1293 
2041ROC_int_012841.3672Yeah.2841.7075
2042ROC_se0_ag1_f_032842.2531But2842.6355
2044 2843.5121definitely2844.4167 
2046 2844.9891made me-2845.6046 
2048 2846.1735it- it propelled me to find a place where I was comfortable.2848.9106 
2050 2849.7266And that's here.2850.5473 
2051ROC_int_012850.8818Mm-hm.2851.3481
2052ROC_se0_ag1_f_032851.3901Where I see d- people that- I- I can't live somewhere where I don't see anyone who looks like me. That's-2856.8084
2054 2857.3947that would make me uncomfortable.2858.7890 
2055ROC_int_012859.0547Mm.2859.3672
2056ROC_se0_ag1_f_032860.1738Like just no one.2861.0038
2057ROC_int_012861.5354Mm-hm.2862.0157
2058ROC_se0_ag1_f_032862.5193Uh, tha- that's weird. So, I- it made me decide to find where I wanted to live when I was an adult w- w- the areas that I wanted to2870.0056
2060 2870.7983make a home in. There were areas like this. Like the artsy, weird, cultural2875.6652 
2062 2876.0429more cultural places like,2877.4231 
2064 2878.0573yeah there's a shit ton of white people everywhere,2879.9271 
2066 2880.1229there's white people everywhere, this is America, but2882.1828 
2068 2882.6677at the same time like,2883.9267 
2070 2884.8733there's almost equally as many people2887.0508 
2072 2887.8331that are everything else.2889.0501 
2073ROC_int_012889.2413Mm-hm.2889.6190
2074ROC_se0_ag1_f_032889.7728And that makes me feel like,2891.5553
2076 2891.7479I don't even have to think about oh my god I live around people who don't look like me. Oh my god. Like,2896.1086 
2078 2896.8779I don't even think about it. I'd rather live in a place that2899.0369 
2080 2899.4274doesn't make me think about it at all. [If I] could-2901.7075 
2081ROC_int_012900.8496[Mm-hm.]2901.4045
2082ROC_se0_ag1_f_032901.9267uh, if I could just never think about it until the day I die, I'd be perfectly happy.2906.0849
2083ROC_int_012906.4252Mm-hm.2906.7796
2084ROC_se0_ag1_f_032907.2226So there are some areas that raise that comfort level for me. Although, i- i- i- if I had to stay here, I would end up-2913.7324
2086 2914.1194I would want to2915.2771 
2088 2917.3368buy a home. Obviously, like2919.6391 
2090 2920.4505somewhere really nice. I'd want a really nice house the architecture is- is2924.1248 
2092 2924.4139better in certain areas. [Like],2926.2407 
2093ROC_int_012925.6951[Mm-hm.]2926.2453
2094ROC_se0_ag1_f_032926.6528the houses look less broke down2928.5211
2096 2928.6611outside of the city. And that's the truth. It has nothing to do with like,2931.3518 
2097ROC_int_012931.6036Yeah.2931.8554
2098ROC_se0_ag1_f_032931.8647the kind of people who live there. It's just2934.0237
2100 2934.5646these houses are really nice. Like there are some beautiful beautiful houses here.2937.9906 
2102 2938.6248All the old mansions on East Avenue, like, [if I could live] there, ideally if I had to stay of course. I'd live there.2943.9580 
2103ROC_int_012940.6252[Mm-hm.]2941.0495
2104ROC_se0_ag1_f_032944.2797But it doesn't have anything to do with who lives around there.2946.2988
2106 2946.6252Or2946.9189 
2108 2947.0961the fact that I feel like the city is segregated. I think it's just like,2950.6964 
2110 2952.2661just the place. I'm thinking about just the house, or just the [apartment.]2956.0932 
2111ROC_int_012955.4357[Mm.]2956.0979
2112ROC_se0_ag1_f_032956.9372And that's where I would ideally want to be, but2959.4099
2114 2960.4344yeah I like this area. It's really comfortable and nice.2962.9559 
2115ROC_int_012963.1843[Yeah.]2963.4605
2116ROC_se0_ag1_f_032963.2048[I feel] like it's- ju- it's like the grown up version of school kind of.2966.4997
2117ROC_int_012967.4964Yeah.2968.0046
2118ROC_se0_ag1_f_032968.3170[It is.] There's always weird club nights. And like,2971.1427
2119ROC_int_012968.3403[Yeah. <laugh>]2969.1517
2120ROC_se0_ag1_f_032973.0301ch- ch- different people coming to perform.2975.3802
2122 2975.6273Not at the Armory or Blue Cross Arena, but just like, people.2978.8027 
2123ROC_int_012979.0767[Mm-hm.]2979.4684
2124ROC_se0_ag1_f_032979.3378[Just] doing stuff.2980.0559
2125ROC_int_012980.6388Yeah.2981.0025
2126ROC_se0_ag1_f_032980.9885And they're not necessarily famous, but it's fun to go watch them.2983.9215
2127ROC_int_012984.3400Mm-hm.2984.8436
2128ROC_se0_ag1_f_032985.3938So,2985.7528
2130 2986.1818yeah.2986.5782 
2131ROC_int_012987.9737Yeah.2988.2988
2133 2989.3339Okay, cool.2990.4111 
2135 2990.8529Um,2991.4371 
2137 2991.7262<ts>2991.8288 
2139 2991.9034And I guess my last question would be,2993.9304 
2141 2994.6485do you feel like, [um], people in Rochester, in all your travels I guess, do you feel like people in Rochester have an accent?3002.6223 
2142ROC_se0_ag1_f_032995.7316[<clears throat>]2996.4031
2143ROC_int_013003.1420[And they speak a certain way?]3004.8766
2144ROC_se0_ag1_f_033003.1466[<ts>]3003.2679
2146 3003.7202[Um.]3004.4709 
2147 3004.9279They do-3006.0603
2149 3006.2284they do because I3007.6650 
2151 3007.9212determined from when I was really young, not to have one.3010.6350 
2152ROC_int_013010.6536Yeah. <laugh>3011.8986
2153ROC_se0_ag1_f_033012.2938I- so I know they do.3013.8765
2155 3014.0306[<laugh>] Especially with3015.6837 
2156ROC_int_013014.0331[Mm-hm.]3014.7030
2157ROC_se0_ag1_f_033016.1692being a theater major and then like, doing voice work, which I still do.3020.0844
2158ROC_int_013020.2615Mm.3020.6439
2159ROC_se0_ag1_f_033020.7138Outside of-3021.5905
2161 3022.2340of, um,3022.9386 
2163 3023.7214obviously of school,3024.9979 
2165 3025.2031after school I've3026.5006 
2167 3026.8859done3027.3527 
2169 3027.9355pretty consistent voice work over the years. And I3030.3323 
2171 3030.7228took care and not I just sound like that.3032.2149 
2173 3032.9936Um,3033.4728 
2175 3033.6514not necessarily because I thought it was ugly,3035.5671 
2177 3035.7947but because I just wanted to-3037.4455 
2179 3039.1149I wanted people to remember me not because I sound like I'm from a certain place.3043.2637 
2180ROC_int_013043.3476Mm.3043.6757
2181ROC_se0_ag1_f_033044.7278And then like there are these t-shirts- have you seen the t-shirts that are like, um,3048.2343
2183 3050.2942it's like Shawcross, Boss Sauce, um, something and Murder Rates and it's like a Ro- a Rochester t-shirt.3056.3501 
2184ROC_int_013056.4714Yeah.3056.7651
2185ROC_se0_ag1_f_033056.7698And it really is a dope t-shirt. I kind of [wanted one.]3059.3484
2186ROC_int_013058.6023[Ah, you have] to send me that. I just wanna [see what it looks like. Yeah.]3061.9538
2187ROC_se0_ag1_f_033060.4477[It's like a picture- i- it's like-] it says like four things.3063.7677
2188ROC_int_013063.9493[Mm-hm.]3064.5008
2189ROC_se0_ag1_f_033064.0428[It says-] I'm trying to think and I can't remember.3066.5874
2190 3067.2124Um,3067.7385
2192 3068.2059yeah.3068.6532 
2194 3069.5345And they rhyme.3070.2293 
2196 3070.5231Like it starts off with like, Boss Sauce,3072.5874 
2198 3072.8440something-3073.5201 
2200 3074.9563Oh, oh, yeah, it's Boss Sauce, Garbage Plates, Shawcross3079.2187 
2202 3079.6927Murder Rates.3080.5320 
2203ROC_int_013080.7465[Mm.]3081.7350
2204ROC_se0_ag1_f_033081.0915[It's-] it's so dope [though (laughing). I love it.]3083.6282
2205ROC_int_013082.8728[Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.]3083.8709
2206ROC_se0_ag1_f_033084.0607And it was like the first Rochester thing. Like, I see Rochester hoodies, or like hoodies with lilacs on them and I'm like, ew.3089.4463
2207ROC_int_013090.0047[Yeah. <laugh>]3091.2950
2208ROC_se0_ag1_f_033090.1323[Like],3090.5363
2209 3091.3756fuck do I look like wearing that? Like,3092.7838
2210ROC_int_013092.7973Corn Hill [/unintelligible/.]3094.4438
2211ROC_se0_ag1_f_033093.3527[somebody's- I look like somebody's] grandma like, carrying a tote bag that says Rochester. Like, fuck that. But I saw this shirt and I was like, oh my [god I need this shirt.]3099.9355
2212ROC_int_013098.9004[/Mm-hm/.]3099.9775
2213ROC_se0_ag1_f_033100.5417Um,3101.0173
2215 3101.5536so, yeah.3102.4768 
2217 3102.8067Um,3103.2870 
2219 3103.8885what was I gonna say- Yeah people from Rochester do have an accent and I3107.5256 
2221 3107.8368have tried so hard3109.4455 
2223 3110.0844not to sound like that. [Do I sound] like that to you?3112.1454 
2224ROC_int_013111.2501[Hm.]3111.6185
2225 3112.9474I'm actually trying to figure out what it is to have a Rochester3117.7863
2227 3118.3086accent. So I'm not even quite sure what3120.9886 
2228ROC_se0_ag1_f_033121.4036[I- I feel like-]3122.4061
2229ROC_int_013121.4036[it is. I mean people] say it's like you say things like Rochester (atypical pronunciation).3124.8821
2230 3125.2831And I'm like, okay. <laugh> But [you know], that's part of what I'm investigating.3129.8329
2231ROC_se0_ag1_f_033127.9911[I f-]3128.2242
2232ROC_int_013130.1873It's what I'm,3130.6350
2234 3131.3297[trying to say.]3132.0385 
2235ROC_se0_ag1_f_033131.4183[I hope that] when you figure it out, you think I don't [sound like a Rochester person (laughing)]3136.1593
2236ROC_int_013133.9538[<laugh>]3135.7956
2237 3136.3692Yeah.3136.7888
2238ROC_se0_ag1_f_033136.7842I feel like it's nasal.3138.0467
2239 3138.4197And I also feel like,3139.3849
2241 3139.7813a lot of people come from3141.1615 
2243 3141.5159like, the city [here.]3143.4090 
2244ROC_int_013142.7888[Mm-hm.]3143.3670
2245ROC_se0_ag1_f_033143.6748So they're3144.1271
2247 3144.6202a lot of people's moms are from the city [area. And then they have] kids who are [born here so they kind] of,3149.4277 
2248ROC_int_013146.8801[Yeah.]3147.4722
2250 3147.9402[Yeah like that. Yeah.]3149.1898 
2251ROC_se0_ag1_f_033149.6888sound like it.3150.5701
2252ROC_int_013150.7694Mm-hm.3151.0678
2253ROC_se0_ag1_f_033151.0678But it's fake, or it's like an echo of it. [It's not] really the real thing.3155.0640
2254ROC_int_013153.2734[Mm.]3153.6278
2255ROC_se0_ag1_f_033155.7669And um,3156.5689
2257 3157.2730people don't pronounce their consonants.3159.1848 
2258ROC_int_013159.5858Mm.3160.2200
2259ROC_se0_ag1_f_033160.2806And people,3161.0173
2261 3161.4043put emphasis on words- on different syllables and words like,3164.8787 
2263 3165.7677which makes them sound like they're from here.3167.6888 
2264ROC_int_013167.9359Mm.3168.4395
2266 3168.8300And so,3169.6181 
2268 3170.0377uh- oh do you mean like, Chili and stuff like that, or-3173.7914 
2269ROC_se0_ag1_f_033174.1213Um,3174.6528
2271 3175.9678kind of, but like, when you think about the word Rochester,3179.0546 
2273 3179.2365I say Rochester. I don't really know why, but I do.3182.1129 
2275 3182.6579Maybe I trained myself to say it a long time ago, but I always hear people saying Rochester,3187.1191 
2277 3187.3290or Rochester.3188.3828 
2279 3188.6253Which is terrible. I don't know why anybody (laughing) would say that. But like,3191.3764 
2281 3191.9534the emphasis is on different parts of it. And I feel like when it is, you can tell that somebody is3196.8215 
2283 3197.1805either from here, or from somewhere very far away from here and they don't know how to say the word.3200.8304 
2284ROC_int_013201.0542Hm.3201.3946
2285ROC_se0_ag1_f_033202.0008So,3202.5837
2287 3203.6223I don't know, there's definitely3205.0492 
2289 3206.0237a Rochester accent and i- i- it is the worst.3208.6256 
2290ROC_int_013209.0453Mm-hm, [yeah.]3209.8753
2291ROC_se0_ag1_f_033209.4789[It's terrible (laughing).]3210.5874
2292ROC_int_013210.3871[Yep.] I feel like if3211.4875
2293 3211.7440some-3212.2336
2294ROC_se0_ag1_f_033212.3175[<laugh>]3213.3387
2295ROC_int_013212.3501[like if I did a] perception experiment. And like, put your voice up there, I don't think that people would automatically just be like,3218.3565
2296 3218.6859she's from Rochester, you know. I don't think /people/ like that would. <laugh>3222.3253
2297ROC_se0_ag1_f_033222.2425I think when I get angry,3223.6927
2298ROC_int_013223.7113Mm-hm.3224.2056
2299ROC_se0_ag1_f_033224.3035I don't know, when I get angry, I end up sounding like an angry old jewish lady.3227.5163
2300ROC_int_013227.9301[<laugh>]3228.7601
2301ROC_se0_ag1_f_033227.9394[Like from] Brooklyn.3229.3383
2302 3230.1077I don't know. It comes out when I'm angry. Other than that, I think it's pretty steady.3233.6422
2303ROC_int_013234.4943Mm-hm.3235.0772
2304ROC_se0_ag1_f_033235.5201And when I'm angry and do not think at all about the way I sound and I don't [care],3239.0640
2305misc3238.8406[See] ya.3239.4235
2306ROC_se0_ag1_f_033240.2752Bye are you leaving?3241.3579
2307misc3242.0564Huh?3242.5087
2308ROC_se0_ag1_f_033242.6159Are you leaving?3243.2594
2309misc3243.5625Yeah, I'll be back tomorrow.3244.5697
2310ROC_se0_ag1_f_033244.8168Mkay, have fun.3245.9079
2312 3247.5714Um,3248.1077 
2314 3250.1127I think3250.5837 
2316 3250.9940I may- I don't know, I may sound,3253.1896 
2318 3253.3507uh, like I have a Rochester accent when I [get angry], I don't know if that's what it is,3257.4183 
2319ROC_int_013255.7396[Mm.]3256.0313
2320ROC_se0_ag1_f_033257.7354but3257.9872
2322 3258.3637my mom grew up in the Bronx.3259.6833 
2324 3260.4574And3260.9004 
2326 3262.2619she spent her childhood there. And3263.4888 
2328 3264.3125um, part of her formative years, so maybe that's where it comes from.3267.7630 
2330 3268.3319I end up sounding like her a little bit.3269.8520 
2332 3270.2332[But I tried] really hard to like have the newscaster's accent.3272.8724 
2333ROC_int_013270.2472[Mm-hm.]3270.7694
2334 3273.2547Yeah.3273.5299
2335ROC_se0_ag1_f_033274.0288No matter where I go, like I don't want people to ever be able to pinpoint that. D- first of all it doesn't matter,3280.0008
2337 3280.3272and second of all,3281.1386 
2339 3281.7669if I really think about it I guess it's like, unattractive to the ear.3284.9563 
2341 3285.2174That's probably because I'm from here.3286.5510 
2342ROC_int_013286.7049[Mm-hm.]3287.0775
2343ROC_se0_ag1_f_033286.7096[Maybe] other people like it. Maybe people think it's adorable, oh it's so cute.3290.6019
2344ROC_int_013290.6626[Mm-hm.]3291.2128
2345ROC_se0_ag1_f_033291.0076[N-] it's not. [<laugh> to me but]3293.1292
2346ROC_int_013291.9800[<laugh>]3293.1013
2347ROC_se0_ag1_f_033293.6597I don't know.3294.2891
2349 3295.0445Like I'm sure British people don't think they have sexy accents, you [know.]3298.6210 
2350ROC_int_013298.2806[Mm-hm.]3298.9945
2351ROC_se0_ag1_f_033299.6830So, <laugh>.3300.7011
2352ROC_int_013300.9839Yeah.3301.2811
2353ROC_se0_ag1_f_033303.4179Yeah, so, maybe you'll find it.3304.8588
2354ROC_int_013305.2691Yeah.3305.5629
2355ROC_se0_ag1_f_033305.6363And I really hope you don't find it on this [recording (laughing).]3308.6560
2356ROC_int_013307.7533[<laugh>]3309.1895
2357ROC_se0_ag1_f_033309.1989I don't think you will [but.]3310.7842
2358ROC_int_013310.3039[Yeah.]3310.7049
2359 3311.5069Well, [we'll see.] Yeah.3312.7088
2360ROC_se0_ag1_f_033311.7680[Maybe.]3312.1504
2361 3313.0259<laugh>3313.6787
2362ROC_int_013313.8562Yeah, I don't know. [<laugh>]3315.6003
2363ROC_se0_ag1_f_033314.6532[<laugh>]3315.3247
2364ROC_int_013316.4811Okay, well.3317.4836
2366 3318.1912Um, okay,3319.3709 
2368 3319.6274do you have any questions for me and are you okay with me possibly using this recording3325.1425 
2370 3325.6181for research purposes?3326.9610 
2371ROC_se0_ag1_f_033327.0309No, I hope you do.3328.2806
2372ROC_int_013328.2806Yeah, okay.3328.8028
2373ROC_se0_ag1_f_033328.7888I [want you to use it] for research purposes.3331.7751
2374ROC_int_013329.2178[<laugh>]3329.9359
2375ROC_se0_ag1_f_033332.6299See that's so funny. Like [I just] said research because you said research, but3337.0539
2376ROC_int_013334.0200[Mm-hm.]3334.3464
2377ROC_se0_ag1_f_033337.3196it didn't feel3338.1683
2378ROC_int_013338.5553[Yeah.]3339.2408
2379ROC_se0_ag1_f_033338.5693[natural.]3339.2501
2380ROC_int_013339.6884[Mm-hm.]3340.1314
2381ROC_se0_ag1_f_033340.0195[I] mimicked you,3340.9940
2382 3341.4323but I've always said research.3342.9979
2384 3343.2171[And I don't] know why.3344.1217 
2385ROC_int_013343.2264[Mm.]3343.6973
2386 3344.5273[Yeah.]3344.9050
2387ROC_se0_ag1_f_033344.5367[Like it's] so weird. I don't know, [maybe-] maybe that's a [Rochester] thing]3348.2297
2388ROC_int_013346.3459[Yeah- yeah putting stress on the] first accent.3349.2264
2389ROC_se0_ag1_f_033349.3849Uh, [maybe] that's. I have no idea3351.3573
2390ROC_int_013349.5621[Yeah.]3349.8932
2391ROC_se0_ag1_f_033351.5905but maybe that's a-3352.6956
2392ROC_int_013352.9194[I mean the first syllable, yeah.]3354.2950
2393ROC_se0_ag1_f_033353.1111[a Rochester thing.]3354.3043
2394ROC_int_013354.5842Mm-hm.3355.1018
2395ROC_se0_ag1_f_033355.0680I don't really know if I count though, cause I really tried,3357.5533
2396 3357.9730really really hard3358.8729
2398 3359.5211to modify3360.4257 
2400 3361.4224my speech before- before it became a pattern.3364.5838 
2401ROC_int_013364.8589Mm.3365.3345
2402ROC_se0_ag1_f_033365.4325Before I got stuck in saying things a certain way.3368.0146
2404 3368.4389Cause I wanted to sound more educated. I did not wanna sound like my peers.3371.8102 
2406 3372.5236And I wanted3373.2510 
2408 3374.1544to look different in person than I sound on the phone. I wanted to surprise people.3377.3952 
2410 3377.6796And I wanted to like have certain things be true despite what people would think [about the way] that I look.3381.9730 
2411ROC_int_013381.1383[Yeah.]3381.4647
2412ROC_se0_ag1_f_033382.5605And like,3382.8962
2414 3383.5164I hope it worked. When I have a kid,3385.1810 
2416 3386.0239I- I like I favor unisex names.3388.0826 
2418 3388.3241Cause I don't want my kid to get hired3389.7122 
2420 3390.2345just because they're a girl or a boy.3391.8932 
2421ROC_int_013392.0146Mm.3392.3223
2422ROC_se0_ag1_f_033392.4016Or just because like,3393.5020
2424 3394.3786their name sounds like something and this is who we want to hire.3396.7287 
2426 3396.9747What if my child has like an overtly black sounding name and you have to fill a quota.3400.7377 
2428 3401.0314Don't hire my kid just because of that.3402.6355 
2429ROC_int_013402.9374[Mm-hm.]3403.3478
2430ROC_se0_ag1_f_033403.1706[Hire] them because they're3404.1638
2431 3404.4435good at what they do. [Interview] them, listen to them. Like,3407.5910
2432ROC_int_013405.6839[Mm-hm.]3406.2714
2433ROC_se0_ag1_f_033408.0433you know.3408.4117
2435 3409.4503Or also, don't hire my kid cause you thought they were white.3411.8657 
2437 3412.7377And then you're disappointed when they walk in for their interview, you know.3416.3316 
2438ROC_int_013416.3410Yeah.3416.6767
2439ROC_se0_ag1_f_033417.2269So it's like,3417.7958
2441 3418.9195that was what I wanted to do by3420.9665 
2443 3421.2918originally not sounding like I was from a certain place.3424.1738 
2444ROC_int_013424.3227Mm-hm.3424.7843
2445ROC_se0_ag1_f_033425.0128But3425.2739
2447 3426.0806I don't know. Your whole- this seems really interesting. And [I definitely] want to see, or read, or listen to whatever you- whatever the finished product [is.]3433.6100 
2448ROC_int_013428.6953[Mm-hm.]3429.0637
2450 3433.1997[Okay.]3433.6333 
2451 3433.7674Cool.3434.2897
2452ROC_se0_ag1_f_033434.4575Um.3434.9145
2454 3435.5113Yeah. I guess I kind of wanna do what you're doing when I go back to school. Just not3439.0924 
2456 3439.1939specifically. I can't get this specific. I don't [think I know what I want] quite yet.3444.0767 
2457ROC_int_013441.8144[Yeah, yeah. <laugh>]3443.5397
2458 3444.1692[Mm-hm.]3444.7754
2459ROC_se0_ag1_f_033444.3394[But like]3444.7800
2460 3445.3617understanding why people do what they do is3447.2923
2462 3447.4779[also] why I would-3448.8263 
2463ROC_int_013447.5020[Mm-hm.]3447.9853
2464ROC_se0_ag1_f_033449.5910why- what I'd wanna study if I3451.3446
2466 3451.9959went back and thought it would make me any money. [<laugh>]3454.6398 
2467ROC_int_013454.2527[Mm-hm.]3454.9505
2468ROC_se0_ag1_f_033455.0268Probably won't, but I [think]3456.8066
2469ROC_int_013456.6728[Hey.]3457.1251
2470ROC_se0_ag1_f_033457.0587it's interesting. And it'll make me happy. And3459.2409
2471 3459.6186you seem like you're pretty happy and interested in [what you're] doing.3463.1018
2472ROC_int_013461.9733[Yeah.]3462.6914
2473 3463.3944Yeah.3463.9633
2475 3464.1498My job's good. I don't know. Like, I guess I feel like I don't have the same day everyday. So, I like that [about it.]3470.1638 
2476ROC_se0_ag1_f_033469.4457[You shouldn't] feel like that. Or if [you] do, like I hope it's fulfilling.3472.5682
2477ROC_int_013470.8306[Yeah.]3471.0917
2478ROC_se0_ag1_f_033472.6908[But if] you don't I think that's interesting.3474.5376
2479ROC_int_013472.6957[Mm-hm.]3473.1807
2480 3474.6763Yeah. For me that's important. Some people like3476.9938
2482 3477.6932the tradition. [And]3479.1247 
2483ROC_se0_ag1_f_033478.6584[Yeah.]3479.1247
2484ROC_int_013479.4278you know,3480.0106
2485ROC_se0_ag1_f_033480.1039the [habit.]3480.6075
2486ROC_int_013480.4163[d-] daily routine.3481.7639
2487ROC_se0_ag1_f_033481.7814Yeah.3482.1078
2488ROC_int_013482.4249But I like being able to learn through things and3485.8437
2490 3486.4111yeah.3486.9152 
2492 3487.3664Have a different experience3488.9331 
2494 3489.4414everyday. So-3490.3926 
2495ROC_se0_ag1_f_033491.7029I can't wait to see what you come up with.3493.6664
2496ROC_int_013493.6975Yeah thank you, [appreciate it. This has been] fun.3497.0035
2497ROC_se0_ag1_f_033495.5440[Thank you.]3496.2807
2499 3496.9988It has. I'm sorry that [I like] lost my voice.3499.0334 
2500ROC_int_013499.2152No you're fine.3500.1385