Line | Speaker | St Time | Content | En Time |
1 | ROC_int_01 | 0.6563 | Wait, | 1.1483 |
3 | | 1.9526 | Ah, th- they have shows there? | 3.2320 |
4 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 4.2502 | You need to go. | 4.8937 |
5 | ROC_int_01 | 5.4438 | [I had no idea.] | 6.7978 |
6 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 5.4672 | [Monday- every Monday], open mic. | 7.2695 |
7 | ROC_int_01 | 7.3171 | I had no idea. | 8.3046 |
8 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 8.4166 | /They have like/ good wings. | 9.6612 |
10 | | 10.1336 | It- a lot of comedy, poets, singing. | 12.3298 |
12 | | 13.2519 | [Dope.] | 13.6110 |
13 | ROC_int_01 | 13.2566 | [Okay.] Every Monda- Dang, well, I'm leaving now. [So, but I had] no [idea] | 17.3506 |
14 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 15.7419 | [Aw.] | 16.2036 |
16 | | 16.8377 | [Yeah, sick.] | 18.0874 |
17 | ROC_int_01 | 17.8018 | [that it] was- | 18.6971 |
18 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 18.8509 | Mm-hm. My boy /RD-NAME-2/, his family own it. It's black owned and stuff. | 21.7559 |
20 | | 22.0637 | So, you know, we come and support. | 23.1268 |
22 | | 23.5920 | At first we started off, it was like eight people in there. | 25.7602 |
24 | | 26.1379 | But | 26.3571 |
26 | | 27.1311 | this Monday, it was like forty-five people in there. | 29.5185 |
27 | ROC_int_01 | 29.6479 | And you realize I live right around the corner. | 31.5084 |
28 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 31.7322 | Nah. | 32.3990 |
29 | ROC_int_01 | 32.4550 | I live on /RD-ADDRESS-3/. | 33.8026 |
30 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 34.0544 | I thought you lived o- off of /RD-STREET-3/. | 35.6024 |
31 | ROC_int_01 | 35.6677 | No, [/RD-ADDRESS-3/.] | 36.9127 |
32 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 36.7250 | [Oh wow.] | 37.8068 |
33 | ROC_int_01 | 37.4711 | [Like that's] literally [/inaudible/.] | 39.8212 |
34 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 38.7301 | [That's crazy. Yo], you been missing some dope [stuff (laughing), every Monday.] | 42.1878 |
35 | ROC_int_01 | 40.7678 | [Yeah. I'm like-] | 41.8869 |
36 | | 42.3007 | /?/ yeah, and | 42.9908 |
38 | | 43.2986 | I probably walked past it, cause I know my mom and I- | 45.7000 |
40 | | 45.8492 | we be walking, like, | 46.8470 |
42 | | 47.3087 | [up the street] and we'll see stuff going on. We'll be like, oh what's happening? But | 50.4876 |
43 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 47.4252 | [Yeah.] | 48.0547 |
44 | ROC_int_01 | 51.3596 | we be thinking it's a private event, [so /it's/ like, somebody rented] the [space.] | 54.8460 |
45 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 52.8750 | [Nah.] | 54.1713 |
47 | | 54.6595 | [Go] in there every Monday. | 55.7882 |
48 | | 56.1462 | Yeah, [that's the spot.] | 57.5167 |
49 | ROC_int_01 | 56.5841 | [I'm'a tell /her/ cause I] know she's gonna go. | 58.4119 |
50 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 58.8004 | Yeah, they [got dope] poets, female comedians. It's mad dope. | 61.8205 |
51 | ROC_int_01 | 59.3026 | [/inaudible/] | 59.7129 |
52 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 62.5063 | Mm-hm. | 63.0985 |
53 | ROC_int_01 | 63.2229 | Wow, that's dope. | 64.2674 |
54 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 64.3560 | [And it's free.] | 65.0088 |
55 | ROC_int_01 | 64.4119 | [Okay.] | 64.9575 |
56 | | 65.6056 | Right, like it- Okay, ugh. | 67.6154 |
58 | | 68.3789 | I'm mad that I [/missed that/. <laugh>] | 70.2208 |
59 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 68.9740 | [<laugh>] | 69.8693 |
60 | ROC_int_01 | 70.6031 | [But, um], oh, okay, | 71.9460 |
61 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 70.6527 | [/Yeah./] | 71.0665 |
62 | ROC_int_01 | 72.0486 | uh, do you consent to doing this interview with me? | 75.1512 |
63 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 75.1605 | Yes. | 75.6501 |
64 | ROC_int_01 | 75.6874 | Ok, great. | 76.5268 |
66 | | 76.6713 | Um, | 77.1329 |
68 | | 77.8248 | so, uh, if you see me look down a couple times, it's just so I can get a sense of | 81.5012 |
69 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 81.8323 | <clears throat> | 82.0468 |
70 | ROC_int_01 | 81.8649 | what time it is, and, | 83.4083 |
71 | | 83.6275 | yeah, stuff like that. | 84.6627 |
73 | | 85.0870 | Um, again, the questions are pretty open-ended. So, | 88.0683 |
75 | | 88.4787 | you could take it | 89.3040 |
77 | | 89.5838 | where you would like. | 90.4138 |
79 | | 90.5816 | Um, | 90.9984 |
81 | | 91.7089 | but the first question I usually start off with is asking people where in Rochester did they grow up. | 96.5863 |
82 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 97.4105 | Okay. | 97.7649 |
84 | | 98.4223 | Um, I grew up on /RD-ADRESS-6/. It used to be called /RD-STREET-2/ Avenue, | 102.1573 |
86 | | 102.9424 | a- on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Court. | 104.1128 |
88 | | 104.8775 | I was actually born there. | 105.9564 |
90 | | 106.0450 | I was born on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Court. | 107.0988 |
92 | | 107.9709 | And I lived there all the way up to like- | 109.3248 |
94 | | 109.8843 | like fifteen years old, sixteen years old. | 112.1476 |
95 | ROC_int_01 | 112.8676 | Mm. | 113.0569 |
97 | | 114.2086 | Okay, what was that neighborhood like? Or how would you describe it for somebody who maybe wasn't from Rochester? | 119.1688 |
98 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 119.5956 | Um, | 120.1154 |
100 | | 120.6681 | it had its ups and downs. | 122.1415 |
102 | | 122.6032 | It was a up because like, most people in those projects | 125.0623 |
104 | | 125.2301 | been living there for a real long time. | 126.8406 |
106 | | 127.3138 | And like, I was the project baby, so I was like the little baby that ran around with his diaper on that everybody, like, try to play with and take care of. | 132.5783 |
108 | | 132.9454 | So like we all- i- it was like one big family, you know. | 135.0997 |
110 | | 135.8446 | But then at the same time, | 136.9031 |
112 | | 137.4790 | you had those street dudes | 139.1064 |
114 | | 139.2369 | that lived in the projects too. | 140.3629 |
116 | | 140.8287 | And | 141.0712 |
118 | | 141.2158 | when they used to go at it, | 142.3675 |
120 | | 142.6193 | you know what I mean, stuff got dangerous at the same time, you know. | 144.9776 |
122 | | 145.3739 | But as a child, | 146.2925 |
124 | | 146.5723 | you don't really know what danger is, you know. | 148.3069 |
126 | | 148.3861 | So, | 148.7545 |
128 | | 149.1028 | it take me to be older to be like, | 150.4690 |
130 | | 150.6695 | okay, | 151.1964 |
132 | | 151.4237 | like | 151.6243 |
134 | | 151.7641 | our project was really dangerous, | 153.4708 |
136 | | 153.5733 | but | 153.8578 |
138 | | 154.1142 | to us kids, it was awesome, like | 155.6716 |
140 | | 155.8162 | Big Wheels | 156.7365 |
142 | | 157.0154 | had my little electric, like, monster truck. | 158.9540 |
144 | | 159.3897 | It was awesome. | 159.9285 |
145 | ROC_int_01 | 160.4051 | Yeah. | 160.7408 |
147 | | 161.0532 | [And], um, who were your friends in the neighborhood? | 163.7810 |
148 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 161.0719 | [Yeah.] | 161.4589 |
149 | | 164.4199 | Well one friend that I still have, | 165.8933 |
151 | | 166.1702 | his name /RD-NAME-2/. | 166.9955 |
153 | | 168.0966 | Me /and him/ been friends | 168.9382 |
155 | | 169.0268 | ever since babies, cause our moms were friends. | 170.9281 |
157 | | 171.6095 | Um, | 172.4367 |
159 | | 173.5465 | he was like the chubby fat k- fat dude. | 175.5339 |
161 | | 176.4504 | Then he started playing football and slimmed up. | 178.0591 |
163 | | 178.5526 | It was a dude named /RD-NAME-2/. | 179.6684 |
165 | | 179.8170 | He was a older dude. | 180.7753 |
167 | | 181.2625 | Like probably like four years older than us. | 182.8847 |
169 | | 183.0146 | And we all like looked up to him cause he was like the- like the East | 185.3414 |
171 | | 185.4988 | High School football player. | 186.9059 |
173 | | 187.8011 | And like, | 188.2599 |
175 | | 188.4364 | he used to train us out in the field, and we used to like, play like- | 190.8245 |
177 | | 191.0669 | like t- like shoot 'em up, bust 'em up, like basically like football- freehand football. | 194.5146 |
179 | | 195.4622 | Yeah. | 195.8703 |
181 | | 196.2200 | I had some pretty cool friends on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Court. | 197.7821 |
182 | ROC_int_01 | 198.2015 | Yeah. | 198.6211 |
183 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 198.6678 | It was cool. | 199.2273 |
184 | ROC_int_01 | 199.3439 | And what was like the thing to do? Like, what did y'all get into? | 202.4342 |
185 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 203.4496 | Um, we woke up every day | 204.8848 |
187 | | 205.6448 | and we went outside. | 206.7556 |
189 | | 207.4296 | You know, probably just normal stuff cause like we had like a square in the projects. | 210.5203 |
191 | | 210.7581 | So we'd just like ride our bicycle in that like circle a lot. | 213.1100 |
193 | | 213.6975 | And then | 214.2876 |
195 | | 214.5246 | we probably like, all start coming together. | 216.2405 |
197 | | 216.7925 | Play shoot 'em up bust 'em up is basically like | 218.4385 |
199 | | 219.0354 | no one's on | 219.8700 |
201 | | 220.0443 | no one's team. It's kind of like | 221.2447 |
203 | | 221.3310 | twenty-one | 221.9519 |
205 | | 222.0271 | in basketball. | 222.7788 |
207 | | 223.3201 | Everyone against everyone. | 224.5978 |
209 | | 224.6910 | And you just get a football, you just keep doing touchdowns. | 226.8692 |
211 | | 227.4766 | And then w- we probably split up into teams, play a round of that. | 229.9946 |
213 | | 230.7021 | And then like we /would/ either play like hide-and-go-seek, or like man hunt or something like that. | 234.0081 |
215 | | 234.6720 | A- yeah. | 235.2269 |
217 | | 235.3528 | And we used to play that from like | 236.4159 |
219 | | 236.5809 | pr- like the projects all the way like to Corn Hill. | 238.6092 |
221 | | 239.2154 | So it was dope. | 239.9073 |
223 | | 240.0658 | O- or we used to go to Three School | 241.3945 |
225 | | 241.5040 | play basketball, | 242.4016 |
227 | | 242.9283 | dodgeball | 243.6781 |
229 | | 243.9588 | at Three School. | 244.6573 |
231 | | 245.3165 | That's like a normal day. | 246.3147 |
233 | | 246.4010 | That's when life was good. [<laugh>] | 248.2169 |
234 | ROC_int_01 | 247.7821 | [<laugh>] | 248.2102 |
235 | | 248.5511 | I'm surprised I ain't seen you. You know I went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ School. | 250.9963 |
236 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 251.3204 | Um, /RD-NAME-2/ seen me all the time. | 252.9245 |
237 | ROC_int_01 | 253.5952 | I did not at all, like, | 255.3922 |
238 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 255.3922 | Yeah. | 256.0730 |
239 | ROC_int_01 | 256.0608 | that's crazy. You know I went there from like kindergarten to eighth grade, [like.] | 259.6465 |
240 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 259.2782 | [No I didn't] know that. | 260.1175 |
241 | ROC_int_01 | 260.1175 | Yeah. | 260.4969 |
242 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 260.6182 | [That's crazy.] | 261.2990 |
243 | ROC_int_01 | 260.6182 | [/That whole time./] | 261.4762 |
244 | | 262.3412 | So what schools did you go to then? | 263.8986 |
245 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 264.6906 | Um, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ | 266.6584 |
247 | | 266.8840 | and the /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 267.6673 |
248 | ROC_int_01 | 268.2922 | Right, | 268.6512 |
250 | | 268.8797 | yeah. | 269.2107 |
252 | | 269.5232 | Um, | 270.0827 |
254 | | 270.6020 | well, what were /RD-SCHOOL-3/ and /RD-SCHOOL-2/ like? | 272.6817 |
255 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 272.8263 | <exhale> | 273.1964 |
257 | | 273.4062 | <laugh> | 273.6767 |
259 | | 274.1896 | /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was like- | 275.7237 |
261 | | 276.4015 | you ever seen the movie High School High? | 277.6099 |
262 | ROC_int_01 | 278.3897 | No, I haven't. | 279.1777 |
263 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 279.1684 | What? (whispered) | 279.6205 |
264 | ROC_int_01 | 279.5927 | I know. | 280.1616 |
265 | | 280.3808 | I know. [<laugh>] | 281.4561 |
266 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 280.9543 | [It's a] nineties movie. It's so dope. | 282.4354 |
267 | ROC_int_01 | 283.0695 | I gotta put it on the list. | 284.2481 |
268 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 284.3133 | A- but it's like, you know, shoot, at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ I had to be around like- | 286.9869 |
270 | | 287.4486 | had to be like fourteen years old, | 288.8317 |
272 | | 288.9238 | thirteen, | 289.4973 |
274 | | 289.6792 | fourteen years old. | 290.7470 |
276 | | 291.8592 | It was- man, school was crazy. Like, there was a lot of gangs in school. | 295.6566 |
278 | | 296.1468 | Like, you could walk | 297.0048 |
280 | | 297.1540 | up the stairways, kids behind th- | 298.8588 |
282 | | 299.0640 | the stairs | 299.5442 |
284 | | 299.7063 | gambling, or like rolling dice and playing tunk. | 302.0855 |
286 | | 303.0356 | The cafeteria, like, | 304.2946 |
288 | | 304.4841 | the reason why they f- | 305.4370 |
290 | | 305.5816 | they- they changed the foam plates | 307.5073 |
292 | | 307.9241 | is because, like, | 308.5490 |
294 | | 308.7326 | they used to have food fights in the cafeteria and be throwing like them heavy plastic trays and stuff. Like, | 313.0737 |
296 | | 313.9177 | that was crazy. | 315.0648 |
298 | | 315.5142 | But i- it was cool too because like, | 317.3141 |
300 | | 318.2111 | we used to have like, basketball tournaments, | 319.8478 |
302 | | 320.1695 | and they had /this one/ that was like a bask- I mean a boxing league. | 322.9364 |
304 | | 323.3345 | So i- i- it kept the kids active, you know. | 325.2463 |
306 | | 325.6333 | But | 325.8618 |
308 | | 326.3951 | this- | 326.6737 |
310 | | 326.7763 | k- | 326.8276 |
312 | | 326.9255 | the kids was so bad there | 328.8478 |
314 | | 329.2488 | that a probation officer | 330.7287 |
316 | | 331.2649 | had her own office inside the middle school. | 333.8452 |
318 | | 334.2229 | And like, back then it was nothing. But w- now you get older, like, yo it's a probation officer | 338.8596 |
320 | | 339.2111 | assigned to the school? That's crazy. | 341.7430 |
322 | | 342.4256 | So like, | 342.9618 |
324 | | 343.6100 | teachers w- like they come in there fighting, um, | 346.1157 |
326 | | 346.6100 | parents coming in fighting teachers, | 348.5701 |
328 | | 349.2742 | students fighting teachers, like literally, fist combat. It just like, yo like, | 353.4152 |
330 | | 353.9234 | 50 Cent album drop that year, Get Rich or Die Tryin'. | 356.6763 |
332 | | 357.1333 | That- | 357.4130 |
334 | | 357.5454 | everyone had the little walkmans. | 359.0841 |
336 | | 359.3965 | Everyone had Ge- Get Rich or Die Tryin'. | 361.1871 |
338 | | 361.5572 | And then the Nextels came. Everyone had a Nextel. | 364.2151 |
340 | | 365.5364 | /And like/ it was crazy. I thought I was old back in the day, man. | 368.3266 |
342 | | 368.4665 | /I wasn't old./ | 369.1333 |
344 | | 370.2868 | But school was pretty- | 371.0748 |
346 | | 371.6996 | /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was alright. W- but then, | 373.3287 |
348 | | 374.5318 | I guess like statistic-wise | 376.2104 |
350 | | 376.3707 | the state took over /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 377.8488 |
352 | | 378.3355 | That's what turned it into /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 380.2520 |
354 | | 381.7412 | And then, I went over to the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ down the street. | 384.0354 |
356 | | 385.9302 | The /RD-SCHOOL-2/ down the street | 386.7920 |
358 | | 386.8690 | was- it was a little bit more intense. Like people wasn't playing around like that. | 389.8550 |
360 | | 390.2035 | You know what I mean. | 390.9030 |
362 | | 391.7050 | And then, | 392.4417 |
363 | ROC_int_01 | 393.2531 | Was it intense cause of like school work you mean? [Or like], | 395.9267 |
364 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 395.5536 | [Yeah.] | 396.0042 |
365 | | 396.1027 | An- and it [wasn't b-] | 396.9152 |
366 | ROC_int_01 | 396.5655 | [more strict?] | 397.2229 |
367 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 397.2369 | Yeah it was more strict. Like, /RD-SCHOOL-3/ man, you could just walk out of class and just go like chill in the bathroom and like roll dice like your friend hit you on your Nextel. Like you- you- you leave class, like aight, I'll c- | 405.4069 |
369 | | 405.6634 | I'm thirteen years old, (laughing) | 407.0250 |
371 | | 407.3997 | fourteen so it was just like, | 408.6867 |
373 | | 409.0970 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ wasn't with none of that, like, oh, referral. | 410.6323 |
375 | | 410.7110 | Oh, referral. Oh, | 411.4384 |
377 | | 411.5410 | two day. | 411.9164 |
379 | | 412.0035 | Like, alright, lemme stop playing around. I'm'a start doing my work. | 414.1286 |
381 | | 414.5267 | My mom was whooping my butt. | 415.5607 |
383 | | 415.6819 | I'm like alright, we- | 416.4263 |
385 | | 417.0651 | take class more serious. | 418.2448 |
387 | | 418.9722 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was alright though. | 419.9654 |
389 | | 421.0536 | It had way more of a college feel. Cause like a lot of kids there, | 423.6182 |
391 | | 423.8033 | uh, | 423.9569 |
393 | | 424.0338 | were in like advanced classes. | 425.5845 |
395 | | 426.1490 | So like, a lot of people wasn't playing around. Like if you tried to be like that class clown or play around, people looking at you like, bro like, I'm here to work for real, you know. | 432.1473 |
397 | | 433.6085 | And then /RD-SCHOOL-4/, you know how that was. | 435.4399 |
399 | | 437.1724 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was just, [you know.] | 438.3728 |
400 | ROC_int_01 | 437.9112 | [/Well, how] would you-/ | 438.7785 |
401 | | 439.0629 | what was tha- okay, but, coming from these other schools when you got to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 442.5694 |
403 | | 442.9001 | what was that like? | 443.5636 |
404 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 443.5762 | Shell shock. | 444.4761 |
406 | | 444.8323 | Culture shock. | 445.6343 |
408 | | 446.4923 | Cause it was just like, I came from like this crazy like, | 448.8441 |
410 | | 449.4696 | ghetto, like, free school. | 451.2508 |
412 | | 451.6483 | Then I went to like this strict | 452.7796 |
414 | | 453.0711 | school. | 453.6213 |
416 | | 453.9209 | Then I went to like, another like, diverse, free school, you understand? | 457.3546 |
418 | | 457.6436 | So it was just like, | 458.4363 |
420 | | 458.7441 | ok, shell shock, like, | 459.8772 |
422 | | 460.2706 | you know what I mean, like, | 460.8395 |
424 | | 461.8531 | I've seen a gay person here and there, | 463.4524 |
426 | | 463.6343 | but, | 463.7975 |
428 | | 463.9421 | when I went and seen people like, | 465.0565 |
430 | | 465.4919 | proudly out being gay, you know what I mean, | 467.2731 |
432 | | 467.6386 | that was something I had to get used to. | 469.0142 |
434 | | 469.7089 | Um, | 470.4270 |
436 | | 470.9743 | You seeing a white kid with like a red mohawk, or a black kid, he | 474.3642 |
438 | | 475.0328 | got on like some crazy clothes. Like, even the teacher got a mohawk. | 478.2975 |
440 | | 478.3998 | This teacher don't wear suits to work like, you know what I mean. | 480.7466 |
442 | | 481.3072 | Then like, it's so much art. It was just so much culture | 483.7925 |
444 | | 484.1346 | in like one building, that- | 485.1651 |
446 | | 485.9689 | /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was definitely yeah. I wish I'd have went there like the whole time. Cause it's crazy cause | 489.3728 |
448 | | 489.8176 | I came from /RD-ADDRESS-3/ | 490.6662 |
450 | | 491.2928 | And mostly every kid that comes from /RD-ADDRESS-3/ goes to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ | 494.0626 |
452 | | 494.6052 | But, | 494.8570 |
454 | | 495.0342 | that year they changed it, where you had to go | 496.9087 |
456 | | 497.1185 | closer to like your local | 498.4474 |
458 | | 498.5733 | area or something they did that year. | 500.3237 |
460 | | 500.6967 | So I had to go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ instead. So I came from /RD-ADDRESS-5/, this great elementary school sixth grade, | 505.7251 |
462 | | 506.0328 | to going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. It was like super crazy like, | 508.5648 |
464 | | 509.0328 | it- man, you don't underst- I can't even- | 510.4317 |
466 | | 511.4873 | Going t- it's so crazy, like, <laugh> | 513.7861 |
468 | | 514.4173 | could you imagine being the teacher and you walk out | 516.2872 |
470 | | 516.6853 | to like your car, and a- | 517.6738 |
472 | | 517.7583 | and like a little thirteen year old kid walking out hopping in his car too? | 520.3101 |
474 | | 520.5805 | Like, it was crazy, like. | 522.1193 |
476 | | 523.3008 | Yeah, /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was crazy. | 524.5038 |
478 | | 524.8582 | If I could do th- do that again, | 526.3474 |
480 | | 527.0701 | I would rather | 527.5831 |
482 | | 527.7760 | been at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ mo- | 528.6089 |
484 | | 528.6975 | longer, cause I- I think I woulda grew into a different, like- | 530.9951 |
486 | | 531.3822 | It woulda groomed me more, you know what I mean. I woulda had more time to- to get groomed, cause in school, like college- | 535.9442 |
488 | | 536.9493 | in college, you know, it was like | 538.5580 |
490 | | 540.2190 | I didn't feel like I was lacking, cause I was ahead a lot of people in the art district in school, but | 544.0659 |
492 | | 544.7035 | I feel like, | 545.5289 |
494 | | 545.9205 | It woulda groomed me more, you know what I mean. Like, | 547.7577 |
496 | | 548.3012 | being groomed at a younger age, | 549.6975 |
498 | | 549.8438 | m- most things woulda been muscle memory, | 551.6124 |
500 | | 551.8296 | you know what I mean. | 552.4224 |
502 | | 553.2588 | So yeah. | 553.7857 |
504 | | 554.1494 | And then I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ | 555.4131 |
506 | | 556.0583 | Community College | 557.0142 |
508 | | 557.3449 | for culinary. | 558.1286 |
510 | | 558.2965 | I was there for like, | 558.8047 |
512 | | 559.6924 | what, year and a half. | 560.7442 |
514 | | 561.6767 | Finished up there, | 562.5351 |
516 | | 562.6656 | moved back here, started working at restaurants. | 564.5992 |
518 | | 565.6225 | Got into the hospital and was like | 566.7789 |
520 | | 567.0138 | I'm done with the restaurant | 567.8345 |
522 | | 567.9818 | world. | 568.3894 |
524 | | 569.2890 | You know, | 569.6014 |
526 | | 569.6903 | I'm tryna preserve myself. | 570.7907 |
528 | | 572.5350 | Restaurants, man, it's serious business. | 574.4757 |
529 | ROC_int_01 | 574.4329 | Stressful. | 575.0576 |
530 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 575.3822 | Stressful. | 575.9643 |
532 | | 577.0081 | I'd rather be stressed at one job | 578.5620 |
534 | | 579.1098 | where everybody else is stressed out, | 580.3078 |
536 | | 580.8475 | than be stressed out at a job where no one else cares. | 583.0026 |
538 | | 584.0168 | You know what I mean, so. | 584.9182 |
539 | ROC_int_01 | 585.9918 | Yeah. | 586.1492 |
541 | | 586.9154 | And so, at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 588.1075 |
543 | | 589.0327 | what was your major again? | 590.1180 |
544 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 590.1547 | <ts> Um, mines was | 591.1234 |
546 | | 591.3857 | theater. | 591.7808 |
547 | ROC_int_01 | 592.1545 | [Theater, right.] | 593.2595 |
548 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 592.6171 | [Drama major.] | 593.3110 |
549 | | 593.4652 | Mm-hm. | 593.8082 |
550 | ROC_int_01 | 593.7558 | Right. | 594.1650 |
551 | | 594.6365 | I don't know why I, uh, pinned you with uh, | 597.0621 |
552 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 597.1006 | [Creative writing?] | 597.7061 |
553 | ROC_int_01 | 597.2195 | /crochet/. | 597.9399 |
554 | | 598.3526 | Well, | 598.7093 |
556 | | 599.0009 | creative writing I would have saw you more in my [classes. That's] why [I-] | 602.4329 |
557 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 601.4292 | [Okay.] | 601.9433 |
559 | | 602.1964 | [Cause] that's what everyone thinks. [Everyone like, you] creative writing? I'm like, no. | 604.7773 |
560 | ROC_int_01 | 603.3284 | [Yeah.] | 603.7768 |
561 | | 605.4991 | Yeah. I don't know why. I was just like, | 607.0658 |
563 | | 607.6406 | I guess I thought you was drawing and stuff. | 609.6550 |
564 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 609.7215 | [Mm.] | 610.3260 |
565 | ROC_int_01 | 609.8823 | [But now] that I think b- now that you say that, I think back. I'm like no, you were an actor, [like.] | 614.0816 |
566 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 613.8857 | [Yeah Miss /RD-NAME-2/.] | 614.9020 |
567 | ROC_int_01 | 614.3019 | [Yeah.] | 614.6726 |
568 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 615.3244 | Mm-hm. That's my core teacher. | 616.8492 |
570 | | 618.0255 | Yeah drama, baby. | 619.0852 |
571 | ROC_int_01 | 619.4712 | Yeah. | 619.9860 |
573 | | 620.0491 | [How do] you feel like it changed you? Like- | 622.0723 |
574 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 620.1181 | [And I-] | 620.2755 |
575 | | 622.3790 | It groomed me. | 623.1781 |
577 | | 623.5739 | Like, | 623.9918 |
579 | | 625.1479 | it- so it was c- it was cool because | 627.1413 |
581 | | 627.3721 | I was going to /RD-SCHOOL-4/, but, | 628.6475 |
583 | | 628.8527 | the reason why /RD-SCHOOL-4/ | 629.9368 |
585 | | 630.2076 | called me | 630.6972 |
587 | | 630.9910 | is because I was at /RD-SCHOOL-5/. | 632.2045 |
589 | | 632.8445 | So I was doing /RD-SCHOOL-5/ summer academies a- and doing plays with /RD-SCHOOL-5/ before I even went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 638.2628 |
591 | | 638.9937 | And then- | 639.4786 |
593 | | 639.7118 | and it's cool that they actually called me | 641.5629 |
595 | | 641.8660 | and were just like, yo you tryna come here? | 643.1483 |
597 | | 643.8868 | I'm like, yeah. | 644.7215 |
599 | | 645.5468 | So I- I came | 646.4374 |
601 | | 646.9754 | and Miss /RD-NAME-2/ made me read like a passage out of a book. | 649.5447 |
603 | | 650.0034 | And she like, alright, you're in. | 651.0526 |
605 | | 651.1738 | I'm just like, | 651.5935 |
607 | | 651.9665 | that was way too easy, | 652.9690 |
609 | | 653.3718 | not knowing that she already had friends that came to my shows and seen me before, you know. | 656.8876 |
611 | | 657.3900 | So I'm like, oh that's awesome, you know, so. | 659.3531 |
613 | | 660.7846 | Theater helped me out with- | 662.0996 |
615 | | 662.2552 | Um, cause I- I shoot music videos. I shoot mini films. | 664.8804 |
617 | | 665.5232 | It was really- | 666.2624 |
619 | | 666.4023 | it was really good to have the basics | 668.0110 |
621 | | 668.0949 | down, the foundation | 669.3883 |
623 | | 669.6261 | of, | 670.0551 |
625 | | 670.9894 | um, performance art, | 672.4116 |
627 | | 673.1157 | you know what I mean. | 673.7265 |
629 | | 673.9037 | Cause like, | 674.2319 |
631 | | 674.3345 | yeah movies- | 675.2193 |
633 | | 675.3574 | film is killing the theater world. | 676.9737 |
635 | | 677.3922 | But you always gotta go back to the foundation. Film is just | 679.9474 |
637 | | 680.3671 | recorded theater, | 681.4302 |
639 | | 681.5375 | you know what I mean. | 682.2929 |
640 | ROC_int_01 | 682.4934 | Mm-hm. | 682.8757 |
641 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 683.1899 | So it groomed me f- to like know the foundation. Most of the people out here that shoot music videos | 686.7151 |
643 | | 687.0773 | or work on film, | 688.0286 |
645 | | 688.3118 | they all come from a film world. | 689.7014 |
647 | | 690.1444 | They never really got the foundation of theater, you know. | 692.1074 |
649 | | 692.4292 | Th- those kids don't take that theater class | 694.2710 |
651 | | 694.6149 | or that theater lit class. They rather take the CGI class, you know what I mean, the- the- the production class. | 699.2405 |
653 | | 699.6713 | So it was cool that I took those classes, | 701.6017 |
655 | | 702.2545 | because | 702.7674 |
657 | | 703.7408 | the way I got into /RD-SCHOOL-5/, | 705.1863 |
659 | | 706.2868 | um, it's crazy but I did a poem. | 708.3291 |
661 | | 708.5145 | Now, this is how, like | 709.6942 |
663 | | 709.8061 | illiterate I was to theater. | 710.9951 |
665 | | 711.5174 | So I'm like, yo, I wanna audition for this, | 713.1681 |
667 | | 713.3219 | but I don't know what theater is. | 714.6042 |
669 | | 714.7599 | So /RD-NAME-1/'s like yo, do a monologue. So I try to google like w- what a monologue was. | 718.4855 |
671 | | 718.8527 | So I'm like, oh I could just do a poem. | 720.1537 |
673 | | 721.3241 | I went in there, | 722.1587 |
675 | | 722.5242 | and them mo- | 723.0324 |
677 | | 723.1723 | and those people let me do a poem. | 725.2147 |
679 | | 726.3775 | And not- | 726.7692 |
681 | | 726.8858 | and never stop me and say like, yo you gotta do a monologue, like you can't do a poem. | 730.8370 |
683 | | 731.7509 | And- | 732.0913 |
685 | | 732.2423 | and it's so crazy now, that I thought about it after I understood what a monologue was. | 736.6814 |
687 | | 737.0952 | I left, | 737.6781 |
689 | | 738.0185 | and they called me and was like, I'm in. | 739.5386 |
691 | | 739.8836 | And it's crazy cause I told my mama that same day, I'm like yo, I don't wanna do this. | 742.5834 |
693 | | 742.9273 | It was just like a lot of like, | 744.1397 |
695 | | 744.9231 | people I'm not used to there, you know what I mean. | 746.7314 |
697 | | 746.8037 | Crazy, cause /RD-NAME-2/ was there too. | 748.2151 |
699 | | 748.6240 | And /RD-NAME-3/ was there too. | 749.7961 |
701 | | 750.2344 | /And-/ | 750.5095 |
703 | | 750.8406 | no yeah, /RD-NAME-4/ was there, | 752.2161 |
705 | | 752.7885 | and just /RD-NAME-2/. | 753.5066 |
707 | | 753.7491 | That's how I met them, be- before I even went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. | 755.9826 |
709 | | 756.3230 | So I'm sitting there like, | 757.2649 |
711 | | 758.5227 | aw man, like I don't like these kind of- I don't like these people man, I'm- | 761.2336 |
713 | | 761.3077 | I'm- you know what, I hope they don't even call me. And then they called me like, | 763.6986 |
715 | | 763.9536 | two hours later like, hey, you're in. I'm like, | 765.3757 |
717 | | 765.4906 | psh. | 765.6818 |
719 | | 766.3287 | So they- they was like, it's eight hundred dollars to- um, to do it. | 769.4109 |
721 | | 769.9739 | And I'm like, yes my mom is not gonna pay no [eight hundred d-] | 772.0303 |
722 | ROC_int_01 | 771.6432 | [Eight hundred?] | 772.3940 |
723 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 772.3753 | Yes, eight [hundred.] | 773.4151 |
724 | ROC_int_01 | 772.9675 | [Uh], for a drama major? | 774.5622 |
725 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 774.5681 | Yes, eight hundred for [/RD-SCHOOL-3/.] | 776.0748 |
726 | ROC_int_01 | 775.6318 | [I didn't even] know that. | 776.6530 |
727 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 776.6017 | For [/RD-SCHOOL-6/ it's eight hundred dollars.] | 778.5321 |
728 | ROC_int_01 | 777.3804 | [Oh.] | 778.1497 |
729 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 778.9133 | And whether that's like a probably what, like a three month course? | 781.3981 |
731 | | 781.7670 | Two month? Something like that. | 782.8395 |
733 | | 783.3197 | They charge you eight hundred. | 784.2337 |
734 | ROC_int_01 | 785.3470 | They didn't have no scholarships on deck or nothing? | 787.2774 |
735 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 787.4126 | No that- this would get crazy. So I'm like, yes, I know my mama's not gonna pay this eight hundred dollars (laughing) | 791.7835 |
737 | | 792.0680 | for me to go do some theater. | 793.1311 |
739 | | 793.7081 | Oh, | 793.9040 |
741 | | 794.0998 | I get a scholarship in the mail. | 795.0324 |
742 | ROC_int_01 | 795.3308 | [<laugh>] | 796.7484 |
743 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 796.2354 | [I'm like], oh my god. I'm like, yo like m- I'm like oh my god, now I gotta really do this. | 801.4969 |
744 | | 801.9947 | I show up my first day, man. | 803.6640 |
746 | | 804.3448 | When I say I was sweating, like- | 806.2846 |
748 | | 806.7322 | like, | 806.9421 |
750 | | 807.0977 | I was just sweating so bad. I'm just like so nervous, heart thumping. | 810.7954 |
752 | | 811.3567 | And then like, | 811.8416 |
754 | | 812.8068 | we all was sitting in a circle, and w- | 814.3940 |
756 | | 814.4919 | and we all /done/ had like, to introduce ourself. I was the only black kid in there, | 817.5041 |
757 | ROC_int_01 | 817.7594 | Mm. | 817.9972 |
758 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 818.1465 | except for /RD-NAME-2/. | 819.1023 |
760 | | 819.6805 | And like, | 820.0035 |
762 | | 820.1130 | you know, | 820.5199 |
764 | | 820.7064 | I didn't know who he was at that time. So, I'm just sweating in the corner like, yo this is a lot of white people, man. | 825.1519 |
766 | | 825.5902 | Like, | 825.8233 |
768 | | 825.9259 | it's like | 826.2710 |
770 | | 826.3800 | thirty- like thirty white people just me and /RD-NAME-2/. W- I'm just like yo, I've never been like in this situation. | 831.0027 |
772 | | 831.5109 | So most of these kids | 832.5041 |
774 | | 833.2024 | were like already theater kids. You know what I mean, some of 'em were like twelve years old, thirteen, fourteen. They're already like, | 837.9213 |
776 | | 838.1812 | theater lit, you know. So I'm just like, | 839.7200 |
778 | | 840.6013 | I'm'a just go with the flow. | 841.5245 |
780 | | 842.2788 | And then, | 842.6949 |
782 | | 843.1070 | /I l-/ | 843.4008 |
784 | | 843.4940 | this lady /RD-NAME-2/ pulled me to the side, like, | 845.8768 |
786 | | 846.0586 | probably like three weeks in, | 847.1171 |
788 | | 847.5712 | and was like, you know, | 848.4898 |
790 | | 848.6821 | um, | 849.0680 |
792 | | 850.0816 | you on- you- | 850.5385 |
794 | | 850.7484 | like, you only fail if you try. | 852.6881 |
796 | | 853.3584 | And was like, | 853.9413 |
798 | | 855.6229 | I can see that you're like kind of tens- like have a lot of tension, like, | 858.5419 |
800 | | 858.8636 | just free yourself. | 859.7216 |
802 | | 860.3867 | And, | 860.7987 |
804 | | 861.4428 | if you don't like it, | 862.2308 |
806 | | 862.7187 | you know what I mean, you could just never come back, | 864.4626 |
808 | | 865.6097 | or you can just give it a chance, and if it work out, you know, | 868.5164 |
810 | | 869.1040 | I gotchu. So I'm like alright, you know what, that makes sense. | 871.2367 |
812 | | 871.7729 | So I just | 872.2643 |
814 | | 872.3948 | didn't care no more. | 873.1490 |
816 | | 873.8741 | And then by the end, I won a award | 875.5143 |
818 | | 876.0383 | for like one of the most improved, | 877.4978 |
820 | | 877.7309 | and best dressed, of course. | 878.9200 |
821 | ROC_int_01 | 879.3292 | Of [course.] | 880.2990 |
822 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 879.6063 | [<laugh>] | 880.7234 |
823 | ROC_int_01 | 880.3923 | [The fashion /guy/.] | 881.3389 |
824 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 881.6387 | And but that's what made it so crazy, because these kids like, | 884.5501 |
826 | | 884.6481 | they started coming up to me like, yo. | 886.0749 |
828 | | 886.4375 | When I was like | 886.9271 |
830 | | 887.0297 | sixteen years old, seventeen, | 888.7549 |
832 | | 889.0534 | that's when like, True Religion just came in. | 890.6014 |
834 | | 890.7133 | I loved True Religion. | 891.8762 |
836 | | 892.2772 | So like- like the kids from like Pittsford, they're coming up to me like yo, those True Religion jeans are crazy. | 896.1725 |
838 | | 896.4522 | So I'm like, yo they know about True Religion jeans. Like it was crazy, so. | 899.2657 |
840 | | 900.0817 | I used to wear like- like Dior pants and stuff. | 902.2610 |
842 | | 902.4849 | But I never thought about it like, I n- I never thought anyone's watching me. | 905.1876 |
844 | | 905.6032 | But at the end, they like, | 907.1854 |
846 | | 907.5602 | /freaking/ was like, yo, /RD-NAME-1/, you get best dressed. I'm like yo that's crazy, like, that was dope. | 911.6262 |
848 | | 912.0488 | Oh and /RD-NAME-2/ was there too. I met /RD-NAME-2/ there- | 913.9880 |
850 | | 914.1850 | /RD-NAME-4/ there for the first time. | 915.7331 |
852 | | 916.4605 | So it was like, | 917.0154 |
854 | | 917.4741 | I go- so- so when I went over to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, | 919.1574 |
856 | | 919.3678 | all the- | 919.5963 |
858 | | 919.9623 | all the drama kids already knew who I was kind of, you know. | 921.9009 |
860 | | 922.8449 | And then, I got with House of Pain, | 924.5049 |
862 | | 925.8087 | and started to help like build, um, sets and like theme park type of things. | 929.7101 |
864 | | 930.1583 | Help build a- um, a clown character | 931.9069 |
866 | | 932.2992 | that won me like the best actor of the season | 934.3789 |
868 | | 934.4814 | for Halloween, | 935.3511 |
870 | | 935.6903 | for /RD-WORK-3/ Magazine. | 936.8840 |
872 | | 937.5263 | So it was like- | 938.1558 |
874 | | 938.2398 | and then I just keep going with it, going with it. Then I'm like, you know what I- | 940.4313 |
876 | | 940.9862 | I'd rather just work for myself. | 942.2638 |
878 | | 943.8603 | You know. | 944.0981 |
880 | | 945.3897 | And then, I don't gotta talk about what- what we did, you know. W- | 947.7276 |
882 | | 947.8861 | We did our thing. | 948.7161 |
884 | | 949.4931 | Poetry slam. | 950.1418 |
885 | ROC_int_01 | 950.1462 | Yeah, | 950.9112 |
887 | | 951.0948 | right, how did- okay so, | 952.3395 |
889 | | 952.5963 | did you take a class with | 953.8302 |
891 | | 954.5063 | [/??/] | 955.1218 |
892 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 954.5809 | [Nah.] | 954.9959 |
893 | ROC_int_01 | 955.3818 | How did you get into the, um, | 957.3355 |
895 | | 958.7158 | poetry scene stuff at /RD-SCHOOL-2/? | 960.5110 |
896 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 961.3579 | Um, | 961.9151 |
898 | | 962.5038 | well, I already w- was a writer | 964.0052 |
900 | | 964.4546 | [and-] and /??/ dude, Mr. /RD-NAME-1/, | 965.9328 |
901 | ROC_int_01 | 964.4686 | [Right.] | 964.7531 |
902 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 967.8667 | Was that his name? | 968.5615 |
903 | ROC_int_01 | 969.1257 | <ts> Oh, um. | 970.6598 |
904 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 970.7204 | No not- | 971.0981 |
906 | | 971.1928 | g- n- | 971.7323 |
908 | | 971.8375 | you know, not /RD-NAME-1/ the army dude. It's another older guy, [older-] | 974.6329 |
909 | ROC_int_01 | 974.4837 | [Mr.] /RD-NAME-2/? | 975.1225 |
910 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 975.2997 | Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. | 975.8546 |
911 | ROC_int_01 | 976.0712 | Yeah. | 976.4210 |
912 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 976.4701 | So, he used to come to some of my, | 977.7291 |
914 | | 977.8928 | um, theater shows. | 979.4328 |
916 | | 980.1074 | And then, | 980.6903 |
918 | | 980.9951 | I try to- | 981.5034 |
920 | | 981.6806 | for- for your writing class, I competed with the- | 984.3664 |
922 | | 984.6788 | um, | 985.1451 |
924 | | 985.5059 | the Shakespeare competition? | 986.5411 |
925 | ROC_int_01 | 986.7882 | Okay. | 987.1100 |
926 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 987.7196 | And- you know, and he gave- and they gave us the rules, | 989.9006 |
928 | | 990.0778 | and I ain't gonna say nothing but the person that won | 991.8171 |
930 | | 992.0829 | completely didn't go by the rules, cause they say you can't do Romeo and Juliet. | 995.3300 |
932 | | 995.6238 | And this person did Romeo and Juliet. | 996.9201 |
934 | | 997.0897 | I did Taming of a Shrew. | 998.0642 |
936 | | 998.4652 | So I'm like, | 999.0388 |
938 | | 999.6729 | I lost, | 1000.1672 |
940 | | 1000.3153 | well, I came in second place, | 1001.2292 |
942 | | 1001.3504 | but I'm like, yo like, | 1002.2504 |
944 | | 1002.4555 | you- you did Romeo and Juliet, and they said you can't do Romeo and Juliet. Everyone knows that | 1005.7755 |
946 | | 1006.1521 | piece, you know. | 1006.6323 |
948 | | 1007.2711 | So, | 1007.7514 |
950 | | 1008.4882 | he seen like the way | 1009.7705 |
952 | | 1010.4682 | I did like the- um, the Shakespeare piece. And he was like, yo do you do poetry? I'm like, yeah I do poetry. | 1014.4678 |
954 | | 1014.9655 | And, | 1015.4272 |
956 | | 1015.5315 | I recited a poem for him, | 1016.6751 |
958 | | 1017.1058 | and he was like, yo you should enter in a poetry contest. | 1019.6984 |
960 | | 1020.2206 | So I'm like alright. | 1020.8081 |
962 | | 1021.8235 | Uh, I- I entered in a poetry /contest/. And it's funny cause mad people started dropping out. <laugh> | 1025.9502 |
964 | | 1026.5937 | Um, my boy /RD-NAME-2/ like yo, I'm not doing this with you. I'm like bro, do the | 1029.8519 |
966 | | 1029.9824 | con- Like I didn't even know like- | 1031.3860 |
968 | | 1032.8280 | I didn't know what slam poetry was at- was at that time. | 1034.9895 |
970 | | 1035.2984 | But I know how to like, rap. | 1036.5128 |
972 | | 1036.8591 | So I just do my poetry vocally out, like, aggressively, you know. | 1039.6836 |
974 | | 1040.4798 | And, | 1040.8587 |
976 | | 1042.0384 | I won all the competitions like straight tens. | 1043.9315 |
978 | | 1044.9871 | And then I went on to did like a /Webster/ competition. | 1047.0108 |
980 | | 1047.5284 | I won that one, and met that | 1048.8078 |
982 | | 1048.9616 | kid out there that came with us, | 1050.6123 |
984 | | 1052.0316 | [/RD-NAME-1/?] | 1052.6797 |
985 | ROC_int_01 | 1052.2834 | [Um], | 1052.8476 |
986 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1052.8989 | [I think.] | 1053.1367 |
987 | ROC_int_01 | 1052.9782 | [yeah] | 1053.2859 |
988 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1053.3232 | /RD-NAME-1/. [I-] | 1053.8296 |
989 | ROC_int_01 | 1053.7383 | [/RD-NAME-4/.] | 1054.4872 |
990 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1054.6854 | I met him at that competition. | 1056.0405 |
992 | | 1056.6654 | And I just kept on getting in all of 'em, just- just winning all of 'em, | 1059.3191 |
994 | | 1059.4165 | and then, | 1059.7988 |
996 | | 1060.2657 | I met R- | 1060.8975 |
998 | | 1061.5777 | I had to do the- | 1062.1507 |
1000 | | 1062.3355 | um, what did- the, writers and books. | 1064.3428 |
1002 | | 1064.8849 | And then I met /RD-NAME-4/ there. | 1066.2418 |
1004 | | 1067.2898 | Then what's the other one called, the /RD-WORK-4/ or something? | 1069.6772 |
1005 | ROC_int_01 | 1069.8325 | Yup, /RD-WORK-1/. | 1070.3909 |
1007 | | 1070.5398 | Yeah. | 1070.7730 |
1008 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1070.7823 | Then she aksed me come do that one. | 1072.0553 |
1010 | | 1072.7533 | And then, tha- that's when she brought me with you guys. | 1074.6948 |
1011 | ROC_int_01 | 1074.8425 | Yeah, | 1075.1387 |
1013 | | 1075.3881 | that was dope. | 1075.9523 |
1015 | | 1076.1216 | [<laugh>] | 1076.6719 |
1016 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1076.1327 | [/You know what I'm] saying./ | 1077.0140 |
1017 | ROC_int_01 | 1077.1073 | What got you into writing? | 1078.5341 |
1019 | | 1078.9602 | E- whether it was poetry or rap, like, | 1080.9932 |
1021 | | 1081.4595 | I don't know what came first for you. | 1082.7931 |
1022 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1082.8555 | Nas and Lauryn Hill, If I Ruled the World. | 1084.8838 |
1023 | ROC_int_01 | 1086.9356 | Yup. | 1087.1781 |
1025 | | 1087.3319 | Classic. | 1087.8915 |
1026 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1088.0255 | I heard that song. S- | 1088.9284 |
1028 | | 1089.0147 | a- no I actually seen the music video | 1090.7032 |
1030 | | 1090.9696 | I had a /?/ I had to be like what, | 1092.4349 |
1032 | | 1092.9583 | eight years old. | 1093.7592 |
1034 | | 1094.7943 | I watched the music video. | 1095.9216 |
1036 | | 1096.3238 | I'm like, yo, this is the best song in the w- | 1097.8567 |
1038 | | 1097.9733 | ever, like, | 1098.5608 |
1040 | | 1099.2136 | the clash of her singing | 1100.7337 |
1042 | | 1101.3854 | and like, her soulfulness, and his like, rap lyrics. I'm just like, yo, | 1105.0178 |
1044 | | 1105.3255 | this what I should be doing. | 1106.5425 |
1046 | | 1107.3714 | And ever since then, | 1108.1921 |
1048 | | 1108.6863 | I used to like, just like- | 1109.6609 |
1050 | | 1110.4582 | I had like a karaoke machine | 1111.6706 |
1052 | | 1111.8245 | that had like a recorder with a microphone. | 1113.1814 |
1054 | | 1113.6086 | And I literally just wrote | 1114.5371 |
1056 | | 1114.7318 | every single day | 1115.9127 |
1058 | | 1116.3201 | and just rap records on my microphone, o- over a little tape. | 1119.0852 |
1060 | | 1119.6494 | And they- it was funny because | 1121.0856 |
1062 | | 1121.1835 | then they didn't have the engineering, | 1122.6494 |
1064 | | 1122.9805 | so I would get two radio- I would get my one radio, | 1125.3994 |
1066 | | 1125.6838 | push play on my radio to play the music out loud | 1127.9313 |
1068 | | 1128.3370 | then I take the cassette recorder one | 1130.1275 |
1070 | | 1130.4819 | an- and just rap, | 1131.3108 |
1072 | | 1131.4087 | but I have another microphone sitting by the- | 1133.2132 |
1074 | | 1133.3391 | the music | 1133.8847 |
1076 | | 1134.1458 | just to make songs. And I- and that was at like twelve years old, | 1136.8177 |
1078 | | 1137.1193 | you know. | 1137.4177 |
1080 | | 1138.0834 | Lauryn Hill and Nas i- | 1139.0666 |
1082 | | 1139.1622 | If I Ruled the World is the reason why I rap, | 1140.6246 |
1084 | | 1141.0612 | and | 1141.4331 |
1086 | | 1141.5193 | do art period. | 1142.2677 |
1088 | | 1143.3962 | That song was like my- <laugh> | 1144.6728 |
1090 | | 1145.5504 | I don't know, that song did it [for me.] | 1146.9493 |
1091 | ROC_int_01 | 1146.6153 | [/??/] is- is- inspire you | 1148.2613 |
1092 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1148.2660 | Yeah, it was like oh my god. | 1149.5809 |
1093 | ROC_int_01 | 1150.0099 | Yeah. | 1150.4342 |
1095 | | 1150.7128 | Okay, and so, | 1151.7107 |
1097 | | 1152.4474 | as an artist, um, and specifically as a rapper, what do you feel like is your | 1156.7484 |
1099 | | 1156.8370 | aesthetic or your style? Like what do you rap about, | 1159.4016 |
1101 | | 1159.7921 | what do people know you for? | 1161.1304 |
1102 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1161.3309 | <exhale> | 1161.6992 |
1104 | | 1163.1914 | Um, I don't know, man. I'm a realist rapper. | 1165.5415 |
1106 | | 1165.8714 | Like, | 1166.1558 |
1108 | | 1167.1630 | it's realism, you know, | 1168.3054 |
1110 | | 1169.0795 | It could- | 1169.5411 |
1112 | | 1171.0490 | I think- I think my music is- I- I think the way I rap is deep. | 1174.1451 |
1114 | | 1175.4251 | And I think I talk about | 1176.7785 |
1116 | | 1177.5747 | touchy topics and | 1178.7136 |
1118 | | 1179.4830 | things that people are not comfortable with saying out loud. | 1181.7183 |
1120 | | 1181.8908 | But at the same time, | 1182.9353 |
1122 | | 1183.5170 | I feel like I rap with like a motivation through it. It's not like- | 1186.7810 |
1124 | | 1187.1121 | like glorifying. | 1188.1426 |
1126 | | 1188.5564 | It's like, it is what it is. | 1189.9693 |
1128 | | 1190.1931 | But, you could always p- | 1191.2499 |
1130 | | 1191.3676 | like progress yourself. | 1192.4033 |
1132 | | 1193.0981 | You know what I mean, that's my style. | 1194.4690 |
1134 | | 1195.3678 | Cause like, | 1195.7595 |
1136 | | 1196.1716 | I'm all over the place. I'm not gonna | 1197.8764 |
1138 | | 1198.8836 | categorize myself to one single | 1200.7913 |
1140 | | 1200.9557 | thing. | 1201.2804 |
1142 | | 1201.5712 | You know what I mean, I'm a artist, like. | 1202.8162 |
1144 | | 1203.6899 | It could be some club stuff, some party stuff, some love stuff, some | 1206.5436 |
1146 | | 1206.9062 | hate stuff, anger stuff. | 1207.9740 |
1148 | | 1208.0853 | You know what I mean, like I'm a human like, I- I'm'a be everything. | 1210.4453 |
1150 | | 1210.7222 | For a artist to be like one thing is just like, | 1212.7319 |
1152 | | 1213.0769 | kind of like, faking the funk, you know what I mean. It's like | 1215.0493 |
1154 | | 1215.4690 | this is what sells for me so I'm'a just do this. | 1217.5708 |
1156 | | 1217.9485 | I do whatever I- I- I- I feel. | 1220.0795 |
1158 | | 1220.3592 | Like, | 1220.5504 |
1160 | | 1220.9794 | I could feel like this today, write this way or write that way, | 1223.2147 |
1162 | | 1223.5970 | and I'm'a put it out this way and I don't care who like it or not. It's about | 1226.0999 |
1164 | | 1226.2928 | I'm expressing myself to the world, you know. | 1228.1376 |
1165 | ROC_int_01 | 1228.7035 | Mm-hm. | 1229.3097 |
1167 | | 1230.1490 | Yeah and, um, | 1231.4593 |
1169 | | 1232.2986 | do you feel like you identify more with, uh, East Coast rappers, or | 1236.8141 |
1171 | | 1237.4313 | it doesn't matter? | 1238.1401 |
1172 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1239.4131 | Oh nah, I go by the rules of the East Coast. | 1241.6437 |
1174 | | 1242.3635 | /??/ uh, you tryna set me up. | 1243.8230 |
1175 | ROC_int_01 | 1243.9023 | No, I'm- I'm [not, I'm really] curious. Cause [I talked to a couple rappers and so that's] why I'm- | 1248.8438 |
1176 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1245.7255 | [Yeah I'm not doing a-] | 1246.6021 |
1178 | | 1247.0795 | [I ain't doing a mumble rap.] | 1247.9841 |
1179 | ROC_int_01 | 1249.4686 | Okay so you associate the mumble with [more, so-] | 1251.8718 |
1180 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1251.4457 | [I'm not doing] a mumble rap. | 1252.3223 |
1181 | ROC_int_01 | 1252.3614 | Yeah. | 1252.7064 |
1182 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1252.7297 | I enjoy it. | 1253.3452 |
1184 | | 1253.6035 | But I'm not doing that. | 1254.4381 |
1185 | ROC_int_01 | 1254.4941 | Yeah. | 1254.7832 |
1186 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1254.9091 | Cause like, | 1255.2914 |
1188 | | 1255.7391 | I'm not about to turn into a melting pot, you know what I'm saying. | 1257.6462 |
1190 | | 1258.0787 | It- yes, it's segregation. | 1259.3284 |
1192 | | 1259.6874 | But we have to keep it segregation | 1261.2262 |
1194 | | 1261.4873 | for our children /could/ understand that East Coast has a sound. | 1264.3829 |
1195 | ROC_int_01 | 1265.0626 | Yeah, | 1265.4682 |
1197 | | 1265.7154 | Okay, | 1266.0744 |
1199 | | 1266.1677 | so you've said it's rules. | 1267.5386 |
1200 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1267.8090 | Yeah. | 1268.0935 |
1201 | ROC_int_01 | 1268.0841 | Like, | 1268.4199 |
1202 | | 1268.5737 | hip us to the rules. What- like for you, like what is like the | 1271.5038 |
1204 | | 1272.0400 | [this is how] it- | 1272.9213 |
1205 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1272.1846 | [I'm not-] | 1272.6882 |
1207 | | 1272.9166 | I'm not mumble rapping. | 1273.8760 |
1208 | | 1274.1885 | I'm not going to be repetitive. | 1275.7645 |
1210 | | 1276.1329 | A- and I'm'a actually | 1277.2893 |
1212 | | 1277.4758 | think my thoughts | 1278.3571 |
1214 | | 1278.6042 | out | 1278.8420 |
1216 | | 1279.2369 | clearly, | 1279.7732 |
1218 | | 1280.1089 | and just not be f- for like what I think a person might like. | 1283.0327 |
1220 | | 1283.3549 | I'm'a actually think about what I'm actually saying, | 1285.2480 |
1222 | | 1285.4672 | you know what I mean. | 1286.0873 |
1224 | | 1286.7774 | It's not like get- do drugs and just like I'm about to just freestyle for you, you know. | 1289.8223 |
1226 | | 1290.3714 | But I'm not saying I don't like that music, yes. | 1292.7774 |
1228 | | 1293.0526 | I like it because | 1293.9385 |
1230 | | 1294.1623 | I can dib and dab in different choices of hip-hop. | 1296.3481 |
1232 | | 1296.6372 | You know, f- for- for someone to say | 1298.0127 |
1234 | | 1298.2843 | none of that stuff is hip-hop makes no sense. | 1300.0644 |
1236 | | 1300.4374 | Cause if you know the foundation rules of hip-hop, that's all hip-hop. | 1302.9012 |
1238 | | 1303.1950 | It's people coming from where they're from | 1304.5816 |
1240 | | 1304.7541 | expressing themself through the art the way they do. You know like, | 1306.8664 |
1242 | | 1307.1788 | we heel-toe, and Chicago like fast tap or whatever the like- you know /how/ the fast dance they [do.] | 1311.5188 |
1243 | ROC_int_01 | 1311.2437 | [Yeah.] | 1311.6121 |
1244 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1311.8079 | Like you know what I mean, I'm- | 1312.3768 |
1246 | | 1312.4683 | I'm not gonna say like their way of dancing's not right cause we heel-toe, you know what I mean. | 1316.3173 |
1248 | | 1316.6530 | So it's like, the way they're doing it, okay it's cool. | 1318.6068 |
1250 | | 1318.8230 | That's keeping | 1319.6390 |
1252 | | 1319.8395 | like, us alive and, | 1321.3083 |
1254 | | 1321.9676 | the hundred billboard chart said that | 1323.7861 |
1256 | | 1324.5590 | just now that rap is the new rock and roll, | 1326.7692 |
1258 | | 1327.1282 | you know what I mean. | 1327.8230 |
1259 | ROC_int_01 | 1328.1888 | [/inaudible/] | 1328.8182 |
1260 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1328.1914 | [The top six] albums | 1329.5669 |
1261 | | 1329.8718 | on the billboard chart right- charts right now | 1331.5976 |
1263 | | 1331.6894 | are hip-hop albums. | 1332.8280 |
1265 | | 1333.2789 | And it's all different sounds of hip-hop, you know what I mean. So I'm not about to sit here and discredit no one. | 1337.4913 |
1267 | | 1337.8864 | Like, I'm happy that | 1338.9636 |
1269 | | 1339.5931 | I don't gotta travel to Atlanta to actually hear a Atlanta person. I can just push play | 1343.7291 |
1271 | | 1343.9966 | and hear their culture, | 1344.9245 |
1273 | | 1345.6397 | you know what I mean. | 1346.1946 |
1274 | ROC_int_01 | 1346.2785 | Mm-hm. | 1346.6189 |
1275 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1346.7588 | But, I gotta segregate myself | 1348.3395 |
1277 | | 1348.7749 | for when they- | 1349.4324 |
1279 | | 1349.5863 | when they here m- | 1350.2670 |
1281 | | 1350.4815 | us, | 1350.8872 |
1283 | | 1351.7032 | we don't sound like them. | 1352.8410 |
1285 | | 1353.7491 | You know what I mean, like I've been down south, and like the way I rap they all be like- | 1357.1810 |
1287 | | 1357.7376 | be like why aren't you known in New York? | 1359.8936 |
1289 | | 1360.3302 | And I tell 'em like yo n- first of all, it's not New York. | 1362.5596 |
1291 | | 1362.8686 | New York City is like a huge shadow over all these little cities that- We got like forty cities in New York | 1368.7287 |
1293 | | 1369.2463 | <laugh> | 1369.5680 |
1295 | | 1370.1462 | in that one c- New York /City/ like you know. | 1372.0289 |
1297 | | 1372.1501 | And it- and it's people there that's- tha- that's super dope. | 1374.2251 |
1299 | | 1375.2696 | But it just, | 1375.9364 |
1301 | | 1376.0454 | i- it's just people waiting in line, you know. It's so much art and so much talent, | 1379.5099 |
1303 | | 1380.3201 | and hustle in New York City, | 1381.9568 |
1305 | | 1382.4231 | that, you know, | 1383.0805 |
1307 | | 1383.1924 | s- somethings just don't come to radio yet. | 1385.2907 |
1309 | | 1385.8725 | But, | 1386.1382 |
1311 | | 1386.4134 | it's funny that a lot of my down sou- down south- down s- | 1388.8188 |
1313 | | 1388.9354 | /?/ down south friends | 1390.3115 |
1315 | | 1390.7796 | listen to like, nothing but New York music. | 1392.4489 |
1317 | | 1392.5701 | And it be so hilarious like, | 1393.6846 |
1319 | | 1393.9737 | I go down to Carolina, I'm turnt for the weekend, | 1395.8983 |
1321 | | 1396.1454 | he putting on Nas I'm like bro listen, | 1397.6888 |
1322 | ROC_int_01 | 1397.8987 | [<laugh>] | 1399.7545 |
1323 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1399.3022 | [I know] you /can/ see me in your car right now, and I know you like Nas and you tryna represent but, yo, | 1403.9453 |
1324 | | 1404.3696 | I need your music on right now before I can have my nice night tonight, you know what I mean. | 1407.8173 |
1326 | | 1408.1017 | So it's cool like, | 1408.8618 |
1328 | | 1409.3065 | they're not just bumping down south music, they do respect our sound. | 1412.5612 |
1330 | | 1413.1569 | You know what I [mean, so- s-] so, you gotta keep that sound going | 1415.9453 |
1331 | ROC_int_01 | 1413.6153 | [Mm-hm.] | 1414.0434 |
1332 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1416.2204 | because they s- | 1416.8872 |
1334 | | 1417.1577 | they still want us to sound the way w- we- we supposed to sound. | 1419.8499 |
1336 | | 1420.2975 | If not, there wouldn't be like a Joey Badass. | 1422.4023 |
1338 | | 1422.6820 | It wouldn't be like Action Bronson, and | 1424.8363 |
1340 | | 1425.3343 | Dave East, | 1426.3815 |
1342 | | 1426.9364 | um, | 1427.4172 |
1344 | | 1427.5175 | even ASAP like, you know what I mean. | 1429.1518 |
1346 | | 1429.2649 | Um, there's mad dudes out here that- that's making a living off of this so it- that mean people do | 1434.0648 |
1348 | | 1434.7473 | glorify and accept our music. | 1436.5985 |
1350 | | 1436.7774 | And if we go across seas, it's even more crazy. | 1439.0809 |
1352 | | 1439.6609 | Know what I mean, cause the- they're like ten years behind. | 1441.4421 |
1354 | | 1442.1070 | So like they hear New York music is crazy you know, so. | 1444.3965 |
1355 | ROC_int_01 | 1444.8441 | Yeah. | 1445.3011 |
1357 | | 1445.5593 | Do you have any like, long-term goals that you wanna see for | 1448.8326 |
1359 | | 1449.3083 | your music? | 1450.1307 |
1360 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1451.1862 | Well, m- | 1451.6059 |
1362 | | 1451.9416 | my all time goal is I don't wanna be a rapper I wanna be in A and R. | 1455.3269 |
1364 | | 1455.8900 | So I just wanna hope I can get to a label and show 'em like my music video work, | 1459.6762 |
1366 | | 1460.0679 | and like my engineering work, | 1461.3829 |
1368 | | 1461.4890 | and my writing skills, and music writing skills, | 1464.0116 |
1370 | | 1464.3520 | and they just give me like a office space, | 1466.0866 |
1372 | | 1466.2171 | or give me like a | 1466.8606 |
1374 | | 1466.9632 | contract | 1467.5974 |
1376 | | 1468.0526 | to help | 1468.6063 |
1378 | | 1468.9187 | develop artists. | 1469.8513 |
1379 | ROC_int_01 | 1470.5496 | That's dope. | 1471.2350 |
1380 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1471.6480 | That's what I do at my company now, you know. M- most people I shoot videos for, they don't have no idea on what they wanna do. | 1476.0518 |
1382 | | 1476.3362 | So I help, | 1476.7885 |
1384 | | 1477.3423 | I- I hear their music | 1478.3728 |
1386 | | 1478.7411 | I write down all the ideas and visionaries that I can put together for 'em, I send it to 'em, if they like it, then we shoot it. | 1483.8161 |
1387 | ROC_int_01 | 1484.4092 | Mm. | 1484.6820 |
1388 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1484.6834 | Same thing when I- when I record people. | 1486.3423 |
1390 | | 1486.7573 | If I record someone, /I-/ | 1487.9650 |
1392 | | 1488.6457 | I can hear your weaknesses or where I think a strength is and I try to like | 1491.6705 |
1394 | | 1491.7638 | elaborate on that part like, | 1492.9481 |
1396 | | 1493.0898 | echoes, reverbs, anything, you know. And when they hear it they be amazed and love it so. | 1496.7612 |
1398 | | 1497.2881 | I really wanna develop artists, | 1498.6450 |
1399 | ROC_int_01 | 1499.0134 | Mm-hm. | 1499.4133 |
1400 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1499.5625 | you know. | 1499.8189 |
1401 | ROC_int_01 | 1500.6536 | That's cool. | 1501.3064 |
1403 | | 1501.7680 | Um, | 1502.2530 |
1405 | | 1502.8079 | okay I guess I can ask some more | 1504.7010 |
1407 | | 1504.9155 | general questions about Rochester. | 1506.8197 |
1409 | | 1507.3280 | Um, | 1507.7010 |
1411 | | 1508.5485 | what | 1508.8796 |
1413 | | 1509.4205 | aspects of Rochester do you love and, you know, what aspects do you think need work? | 1513.6684 |
1414 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1514.2827 | [<laugh>] | 1514.9682 |
1415 | ROC_int_01 | 1514.7350 | [<laugh>] | 1515.6443 |
1416 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1517.5887 | Alright we gonna go with the bad [first.] | 1519.2394 |
1417 | ROC_int_01 | 1518.9829 | [<laugh>] | 1519.6824 |
1418 | | 1519.9685 | [Okay.] | 1520.3323 |
1419 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1520.0385 | [C- cause] the good is good. | 1521.1436 |
1420 | | 1521.9019 | Um, | 1522.3280 |
1422 | | 1525.0762 | I don't know, like the youth, | 1526.3678 |
1424 | | 1526.7006 | like, | 1526.9384 |
1426 | | 1527.3115 | the youth youth like the thirteen year-old, fourteen year-olds, | 1529.9151 |
1428 | | 1530.4327 | like, | 1530.6425 |
1430 | | 1531.1881 | I don't know why but, yo they're on a savage lost path, | 1534.7389 |
1432 | | 1534.8415 | like. | 1535.0198 |
1434 | | 1535.9198 | If you be around kids nowadays, like, don't let them know like you're listening or looking. The stuff they saying out their mouth, the way they dress, and the way they acting it just | 1542.9721 |
1436 | | 1543.0934 | crazy, you know what I mean. | 1544.5389 |
1438 | | 1545.2202 | It's like | 1545.5974 |
1440 | | 1546.5783 | they don't value life. | 1548.1031 |
1442 | | 1549.1231 | And like, I'm not saying that in like a cliche way. | 1551.1188 |
1444 | | 1551.4779 | They don't marinate in life. Like they don't marinate in living. Like when I was a kid I was a kid, | 1555.5457 |
1446 | | 1555.8534 | probably doing some bad grown-up things, but I was still being a kid. | 1558.8348 |
1448 | | 1559.2265 | These kids don't wanna be children, they wanna be grown-ups, | 1561.9840 |
1450 | | 1562.2684 | but they don't wanna go by the foundation of what a adult has to do, | 1565.1985 |
1452 | | 1565.9259 | know what I mean. | 1566.4481 |
1453 | ROC_int_01 | 1566.6522 | Mm-hm. | 1567.0998 |
1454 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1567.3749 | So it's like, | 1567.8459 |
1456 | | 1569.3339 | I feel like, | 1569.8410 |
1458 | | 1571.0026 | there need to be more like, | 1572.0005 |
1460 | | 1572.1637 | activities. | 1572.9937 |
1462 | | 1573.4775 | Like when | 1574.0134 |
1464 | | 1574.1210 | I was young, | 1574.8064 |
1466 | | 1575.1063 | we still had summer camp | 1576.2254 |
1468 | | 1576.3559 | and all that, like I go to summer camp at, um, <ts> /RD-SCHOOL-3/. | 1579.7336 |
1470 | | 1580.7537 | And it was dope. Like, summer camp, | 1582.6468 |
1472 | | 1583.9198 | um, | 1584.7731 |
1474 | | 1585.5192 | go to the- we used to go like- like the U of R festivals. | 1588.3513 |
1476 | | 1588.7510 | My sister w- went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ so, | 1590.4483 |
1478 | | 1591.1262 | that was a big part of my childhood, being able like to go out | 1593.8680 |
1480 | | 1594.0329 | and be diverse and see other things, you know what I mean. | 1596.0706 |
1482 | | 1596.4792 | But, | 1596.6517 |
1484 | | 1596.8289 | these youth, | 1597.4747 |
1486 | | 1598.5857 | they're not busy enough. | 1599.6628 |
1488 | | 1600.4730 | That's why they go to the Lilac Festival, and it act like it's a party not knowing that that's like a- | 1604.3152 |
1490 | | 1604.7302 | a festive thing, | 1605.6488 |
1492 | | 1605.9927 | of where you just like, marinate in value and, | 1608.1516 |
1494 | | 1608.2810 | the lilacs you know. So they show up there, | 1610.4365 |
1496 | | 1610.8252 | where if they had some teen event somewhere, they'd have went there instead, | 1613.6929 |
1498 | | 1613.9820 | you know what I mean. | 1614.6442 |
1499 | ROC_int_01 | 1615.1746 | Yeah, I was gonna say, what do you think accounts for like | 1617.7065 |
1501 | | 1617.9676 | why | 1618.5225 |
1503 | | 1619.2313 | [they act] this way? | 1620.0753 |
1504 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1619.2499 | [/Yeah./] | 1619.5950 |
1506 | | 1620.0753 | They're backed up. | 1620.8213 |
1507 | | 1621.3098 | Know what I mean, like, there's nothing for them to do, | 1623.0630 |
1509 | | 1623.4034 | but sit in their neighborhood all day. They go to school, | 1625.8281 |
1511 | | 1626.0878 | come home, sit in their neighborhood all day, | 1627.8224 |
1513 | | 1628.0870 | and they don't do nothing but be on the internet. | 1629.6538 |
1515 | | 1630.1201 | So when a event come, | 1631.2951 |
1517 | | 1631.7101 | they don't care what kind of event it is, if it's a event they're just coming, | 1634.8826 |
1519 | | 1635.5308 | you know what I mean. | 1636.2022 |
1520 | ROC_int_01 | 1636.1704 | Mm-hm. | 1636.5131 |
1521 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1637.1010 | Tension | 1637.7081 |
1523 | | 1637.7827 | arises | 1638.3787 |
1525 | | 1638.6351 | cause you got people there that like, | 1639.8148 |
1527 | | 1640.1305 | never been around kids like this, or never been in the situation before. | 1643.3945 |
1529 | | 1643.7506 | They got their babies, and they're tryna eat funnel cake and enjoy their day. | 1646.8188 |
1531 | | 1647.1720 | Then you got these kids here | 1648.4963 |
1533 | | 1648.8367 | that's bringing s- high school beef, middle school beef | 1651.2055 |
1535 | | 1651.4666 | to a festive thing, you understand, so. | 1653.5043 |
1537 | | 1654.3191 | That's all it is. | 1654.9812 |
1539 | | 1655.3916 | We need to get more f- festival things going for them, | 1658.1427 |
1541 | | 1658.6136 | and then, | 1659.2665 |
1543 | | 1659.4285 | direct them back to going to their own events | 1661.6993 |
1545 | | 1662.1423 | and you won't have to deal with that. | 1663.0842 |
1547 | | 1663.6764 | Cause th- cause the security at Lilac Festival ain't gonna be the same security at the teen event, | 1667.2972 |
1549 | | 1667.3927 | you know what I mean. | 1667.9774 |
1551 | | 1668.4538 | Teen event security gonna be a little more aggressive. | 1670.3805 |
1553 | | 1670.7908 | So things like that won't- | 1671.5276 |
1555 | | 1671.7689 | Cause you got like, Pathways of Peace, | 1673.2797 |
1557 | | 1673.6667 | people that- | 1674.1330 |
1559 | | 1674.6319 | that deal with like the gang activity | 1676.1520 |
1561 | | 1676.5530 | that can go out and point out different gangs and different- certain people and s- and divide the situation before it occurs. | 1682.1753 |
1563 | | 1682.4694 | And at Lilac Festival, | 1683.3740 |
1565 | | 1683.6491 | they just see all these kids. | 1684.8288 |
1567 | | 1685.2531 | And /then/ to be a person that's not from the city or from these kind of environments | 1688.4053 |
1569 | | 1688.7585 | to like be w- pushing my baby in the stroller | 1690.6470 |
1571 | | 1690.9267 | and it's literally like a hundred and twenty black kids over there with hoodies on, it's just like. | 1694.5533 |
1573 | | 1694.9823 | Even to any | 1695.7750 |
1575 | | 1696.0921 | body would be like, alright this is not right like something's going on in the situation. | 1699.9809 |
1577 | | 1700.2269 | So now you gotta look over your shoulder | 1701.7097 |
1579 | | 1701.9708 | while you tryna enjoy yourself at a festival event. | 1704.2976 |
1581 | | 1704.8589 | When you can just | 1705.4558 |
1583 | | 1705.6796 | bring /?/ kids and- and bring them around each other, | 1707.6007 |
1585 | | 1707.8992 | and let them | 1708.4354 |
1587 | | 1708.5537 | handle that, | 1709.0387 |
1589 | | 1709.1739 | until we could learn how to | 1710.2976 |
1591 | | 1710.5681 | develop something better for the situation, you know what I mean. | 1712.9666 |
1593 | | 1713.6660 | It's like, | 1713.9411 |
1594 | ROC_int_01 | 1713.9512 | Mm. | 1714.1844 |
1595 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1714.1352 | you- you might just turn Lilac Festival to twenty-one and up, | 1716.5028 |
1596 | | 1716.7826 | or come with their- or come with their parent. | 1718.3231 |
1598 | | 1719.3693 | You know what I mean, so, | 1720.3019 |
1600 | | 1721.5795 | that's a bad thing. Um, | 1722.8152 |
1602 | | 1723.7251 | I don't feel like Rochester's one of the poorest cities based on jobs. | 1726.7525 |
1604 | | 1727.0760 | I think it's based on ambition. | 1728.3443 |
1606 | | 1728.6474 | People are just lazy. | 1729.4587 |
1608 | | 1730.1645 | You know what I mean, like, | 1730.8873 |
1610 | | 1731.3956 | w- I think welfare used to be like a four year thing, | 1733.8034 |
1612 | | 1734.3023 | or you had to like get | 1734.9271 |
1615 | | 1735.0251 | pee test, drug test, or like, | 1736.5457 |
1617 | | 1737.2697 | surveys of how many applications you do a month. You know what I mean, it was like- | 1740.2976 |
1619 | | 1740.5727 | like more like a probation of h- | 1742.1348 |
1621 | | 1742.2800 | of like help. | 1743.0692 |
1623 | | 1743.7097 | But I think people are just draining welfare out now like, yo, if I could be on this the rest of my like I'm'a do it, you know what I mean. | 1748.6649 |
1625 | | 1748.9296 | People don't got no drive, you know. | 1750.4683 |
1627 | | 1750.9673 | So, I- we got all the jobs, I know we do cause I work at /RD-WORK-3/. | 1754.1007 |
1629 | | 1754.4662 | We're- we're one of the biggest hiring staffs. | 1756.3780 |
1631 | | 1756.7370 | I watch people get hired and lose their job every day over stupid stuff. Like. | 1760.1334 |
1633 | | 1760.5717 | They get their first couple | 1761.3457 |
1635 | | 1761.4454 | paychecks, | 1762.0096 |
1637 | | 1762.3500 | start showing up to work late, they don't wanna start calling in. | 1764.6628 |
1639 | | 1764.9303 | Like I- | 1765.3547 |
1641 | | 1765.9562 | I got promoted up to my position like four, five months ago. I've never called in. | 1769.4877 |
1643 | | 1769.6230 | I've never missed a day. | 1770.5975 |
1645 | | 1771.0766 | You know what I mean, like | 1771.8507 |
1647 | | 1772.5035 | I don't like- | 1772.9931 |
1649 | | 1773.4967 | If I call in, it gotta be something really, really serious. | 1776.3037 |
1651 | | 1776.7112 | And people just calling in cause they went out to the club last night. | 1779.0007 |
1653 | | 1779.6022 | S- but the money you used at the club last night | 1781.6713 |
1655 | | 1781.8357 | came from that job. | 1782.8557 |
1657 | | 1783.8256 | You understand? | 1784.4178 |
1658 | ROC_int_01 | 1784.5035 | Mm-hm. | 1784.8495 |
1659 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1784.7792 | And then w- even when drive through Rochester, you just see people just standing there. | 1787.3805 |
1660 | | 1787.9138 | R- it's people standing all over the place. | 1789.6391 |
1662 | | 1790.0354 | Like, | 1790.2732 |
1664 | | 1791.0630 | ev- even if you go to big cities or something, you- people are not just standing on the corner just standing there, like that's some Rochester stuff where | 1797.0846 |
1666 | | 1797.5526 | you drive by, somebody just standing there all day every day. | 1800.7467 |
1668 | | 1801.1046 | They don't got no ambition, they don't got no drive. | 1802.8532 |
1670 | | 1803.8744 | Most people call Buffalo out of town. | 1805.3665 |
1672 | | 1806.2962 | You know what I mean, like, they haven't even been nowhere. | 1808.2966 |
1674 | | 1809.0659 | Like, | 1809.3830 |
1676 | | 1810.0469 | so that- that's some, like bad things that we need to work on. | 1812.8167 |
1678 | | 1813.1355 | The- the closet racism is huge in Rochester too. | 1815.5882 |
1680 | | 1816.3238 | Know what I mean, it's a lot of closet racism. | 1817.8719 |
1682 | | 1818.2729 | And that's what I like about, | 1819.0236 |
1684 | | 1819.5738 | e- | 1819.6671 |
1686 | | 1819.7603 | like- | 1819.9375 |
1688 | | 1820.5315 | like, | 1820.6993 |
1690 | | 1820.9465 | a person that's racist from like the South or wherever like, | 1823.3199 |
1692 | | 1824.1749 | I like that they're more vocally racist, and separate themselves, | 1827.0799 |
1694 | | 1827.2326 | cause we know where- where we stand. | 1828.8180 |
1696 | | 1829.6247 | But in New York, the racism is all hidden. | 1831.8909 |
1698 | | 1832.0168 | You know what I mean, it's closet racism, you know what I mean. | 1833.9053 |
1699 | ROC_int_01 | 1834.6082 | When you say hidden, w- | 1835.6201 |
1701 | | 1836.3754 | in what ways, I guess | 1837.7090 |
1703 | | 1837.8769 | are you referring to or have you experienced? | 1840.5225 |
1704 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1840.9002 | Well, you know, people still gonna look at like, | 1843.1775 |
1706 | | 1843.3640 | minorities as like- | 1844.6090 |
1708 | | 1845.4454 | Cause like, m- this come from me working in the restaurant industry. There is always doubt | 1848.8306 |
1710 | | 1849.2911 | in what I'm doing. | 1849.9906 |
1712 | | 1850.4102 | When we had this ne- person right next to me that's completely like messing up. | 1853.4644 |
1714 | | 1853.8765 | And then that person mess up to a level where they have to go with me, | 1856.7162 |
1716 | | 1856.9604 | and then I succeed. | 1857.8184 |
1718 | | 1858.1029 | I shouldn't have to always go through that doubt | 1859.9494 |
1720 | | 1860.3492 | or always have to go- Like, you know what I mean, and this not me pulling the black card, it just | 1863.7485 |
1722 | | 1863.8283 | we physically seen this myself. | 1865.3665 |
1724 | | 1865.8188 | Know what I mean, at the hospital | 1866.8167 |
1726 | | 1867.2025 | I don't really go- I- I haven't been through none of that. So I know it's more diverse professionalism | 1871.1707 |
1728 | | 1871.6369 | than like the r- than like the restaurant industry. | 1873.5272 |
1730 | | 1873.8536 | And also just based on, | 1874.8981 |
1732 | | 1875.4873 | like, | 1875.7671 |
1734 | | 1876.0935 | I have a diverse thing of friends, | 1877.5903 |
1736 | | 1878.0910 | and, | 1878.4221 |
1738 | | 1878.5993 | I've had- | 1879.0982 |
1740 | | 1879.4432 | I had white friends that beat up white friends for being racist, all the time. | 1882.6950 |
1742 | | 1883.6947 | Know what I mean, so I know (laughing) | 1884.8511 |
1744 | | 1885.1541 | that it's huge. | 1885.8769 |
1746 | | 1886.2359 | But the thing about it is, | 1887.2385 |
1748 | | 1887.4827 | it's easier to tell a white person something racist about a black person than tell the black person | 1891.2754 |
1750 | | 1891.4386 | in New York, | 1892.0121 |
1752 | | 1892.6416 | you know what I mean. | 1893.2618 |
1754 | | 1894.3191 | So, | 1894.6828 |
1756 | | 1894.8367 | it's just like, that's weird. | 1896.0164 |
1758 | | 1896.3708 | You wouldn't b- you wouldn't believe that exists. | 1898.2173 |
1760 | | 1898.8561 | It's weird, | 1899.3830 |
1762 | | 1899.5701 | you know. | 1899.9012 |
1764 | | 1900.7277 | But good things man, | 1901.8654 |
1766 | | 1902.7485 | I think Rochester has like a soul to it, | 1904.9913 |
1768 | | 1905.4547 | a culture to it that no city has. | 1907.3339 |
1770 | | 1907.6061 | I been a lot of places, | 1908.8137 |
1772 | | 1909.7947 | and I- no one has this- | 1911.5573 |
1774 | | 1912.1448 | this- this energy th- th- that we have here. | 1914.1312 |
1776 | | 1914.5684 | And I think we have the best food | 1915.8274 |
1778 | | 1916.8532 | period, like in- in the country. Well- uh, well, least everywhere I've been. | 1919.6183 |
1780 | | 1920.2790 | Like, you know what I mean, like you go West Coast, it be a lot of bland food. You know what I mean, lot of Mexican food. | 1924.9203 |
1782 | | 1925.4227 | But like here, | 1926.2061 |
1784 | | 1926.7965 | the food choices is crazy. | 1928.2887 |
1786 | | 1929.2119 | Know what I mean, I- I think the food thing for us is huge, like | 1932.2492 |
1788 | | 1932.7406 | c- people don't even know what country sweet sauce and boss sauce is and, | 1935.5197 |
1790 | | 1935.9708 | [garbage plates.] | 1936.9780 |
1791 | ROC_int_01 | 1935.9970 | [/??/ how?] | 1936.9436 |
1792 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 1937.1226 | You know what I mean, (laughing) | 1938.0178 |
1794 | | 1938.4142 | That's crazy, like, | 1939.3608 |
1796 | | 1939.8643 | you bring boss sauce to chicken f- um, to Chick-fil-A. | 1942.2564 |
1798 | | 1942.4260 | They go crazy. | 1943.3493 |
1800 | | 1944.0085 | Like, you go down to- like they eating Chick-fil-A it's honey mustard, you be like yo, | 1946.9321 |
1802 | | 1947.2883 | if I had country sweet sauce right now then it'd be amazing. | 1949.4752 |
1804 | | 1950.6240 | All my down south friends come up here | 1952.1022 |
1806 | | 1952.4863 | try country sweet boss sauce, they buy gallons of it and take it back with them, | 1955.7410 |
1808 | | 1956.6642 | every time. | 1957.2704 |
1810 | | 1957.9034 | So I think the food thing- the food thing here is | 1960.2069 |
1812 | | 1960.3468 | awesome. | 1960.8877 |
1814 | | 1961.8948 | Um, | 1962.6007 |
1816 | | 1963.6032 | the art world here is awesome. | 1964.8809 |
1818 | | 1965.6893 | You know, like, | 1966.2535 |
1820 | | 1966.5240 | I'm in that hip-hop, poetry, like graffiti | 1968.8834 |
1822 | | 1969.4167 | world, so I see it all the time. Like, you go into the tunnels- the subway tunnels, | 1972.9279 |
1824 | | 1973.2700 | all the graffiti stuff is crazy. | 1974.8181 |
1826 | | 1975.7076 | The- um, | 1976.5003 |
1828 | | 1976.8605 | now, the youth do got something going on where | 1978.9996 |
1830 | | 1979.2374 | there's- there's like a lot of ambitious | 1980.8210 |
1832 | | 1980.9458 | art kids, you know what I mean, like there's- | 1982.8389 |
1834 | | 1983.5447 | there's kids that's pretty young that's like, pushing the art here hard | 1986.7575 |
1836 | | 1988.2158 | that I watch. That's pretty cool. | 1989.7033 |
1838 | | 1990.6499 | The structure of houses, buildings, like th- | 1992.6969 |
1840 | | 1993.2955 | Rochester, like the environment kind of like | 1995.3332 |
1842 | | 1996.1509 | influences my art, you know what I mean. | 1997.8062 |
1844 | | 1998.3676 | So I like it. | 1999.0297 |
1846 | | 1999.4866 | I live in the /RD-ADDRESS-1/. | 2000.3633 |
1847 | ROC_int_01 | 2001.3349 | Yeah, | 2001.7173 |
1849 | | 2002.1649 | great place to live. [<laugh>] | 2003.7130 |
1850 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2003.2793 | [Yeah, you] know. | 2004.1466 |
1851 | ROC_int_01 | 2004.4282 | Yeah. | 2004.8618 |
1852 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2004.9271 | It's pretty cool. | 2005.7851 |
1853 | ROC_int_01 | 2005.9343 | You see yourself staying here long term? | 2007.7668 |
1854 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2008.0577 | In Rochester? | 2008.8364 |
1856 | | 2009.4752 | I don't want to. | 2010.3471 |
1858 | | 2011.2628 | But, | 2011.5333 |
1860 | | 2011.7011 | it's all about my job situation. | 2013.1933 |
1862 | | 2013.8834 | I'm trying to- | 2014.3030 |
1864 | | 2015.6122 | I wanna go wherever my, | 2016.9224 |
1866 | | 2017.0437 | um, union is so I can keep all my benefits and everything going, you know. | 2020.3170 |
1868 | | 2020.8101 | Unless I switch to another hospital, | 2022.1670 |
1870 | | 2022.5354 | that's gonna let me switch over for my pay | 2024.3586 |
1872 | | 2024.8406 | and like- and let me- let my 401k and everything come to- like, you know, switch over. | 2028.6782 |
1874 | | 2029.0623 | Like my boy just did that to Florida but, | 2030.7410 |
1876 | | 2032.2628 | I'm thinking more like Seattle. | 2033.5778 |
1878 | | 2035.0250 | Know what I mean, | 2035.6545 |
1880 | | 2035.8084 | I was down there like two months ago, | 2037.1047 |
1882 | | 2038.2675 | and like, | 2038.5892 |
1884 | | 2039.2747 | yeah, Seattle | 2040.1140 |
1885 | ROC_int_01 | 2040.5150 | Yeah | 2040.7773 |
1886 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2040.7668 | I like [Seattle.] | 2041.7227 |
1887 | ROC_int_01 | 2041.0309 | [Yeah, it's dope.] I went | 2042.1907 |
1888 | | 2042.4425 | for the first time a couple months ago and I loved it. | 2044.7105 |
1889 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2044.7105 | Yeah. | 2045.0369 |
1890 | | 2045.1488 | The /RD-ADDRESS-1/ is like Seattle. | 2046.5243 |
1891 | ROC_int_01 | 2046.6716 | [Mm-hm.] | 2047.0580 |
1892 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2046.9504 | [And the] crazy thing abou- about this area is | 2048.5591 |
1893 | | 2048.8995 | most people that's- | 2049.6176 |
1895 | | 2049.7452 | that- that live here or own these houses are from West Coast. | 2052.5103 |
1897 | | 2054.6401 | You know what I mean, and it makes sense. | 2055.9084 |
1898 | ROC_int_01 | 2057.0806 | Mm. | 2057.2624 |
1899 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2057.6728 | So yeah, I kind of like | 2058.6940 |
1901 | | 2058.8199 | Seattle, o- | 2059.7524 |
1903 | | 2060.1022 | and if not, | 2060.6151 |
1905 | | 2061.2632 | I like North Carolina. | 2062.2891 |
1907 | | 2063.0573 | You know what I mean, | 2063.6821 |
1909 | | 2064.1158 | so we gonna see. | 2064.9924 |
1911 | | 2065.5799 | But it's eleven ninety-nine, I'm just trying to find a way like to bid out with them. | 2068.6901 |
1913 | | 2069.2187 | So, I'm at like three years right now. I need like one more year for my seniority, | 2072.8809 |
1915 | | 2073.1857 | to start like working on bidding through jobs. | 2075.4099 |
1917 | | 2075.9601 | Cause I like what I do, | 2076.7808 |
1919 | | 2077.8923 | and, | 2078.2374 |
1921 | | 2079.0347 | I know my job is always going to be there. | 2080.6901 |
1922 | ROC_int_01 | 2081.4414 | Mm-hm. | 2081.8377 |
1923 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2082.9504 | It was cool. | 2083.5519 |
1925 | | 2084.1068 | It's cool. | 2084.4565 |
1927 | | 2084.7223 | I about to aks for a raise. | 2085.7948 |
1929 | | 2086.7962 | They just come randomly all the time. <laugh> | 2088.9691 |
1931 | | 2090.1301 | It's perfect. | 2090.7130 |
1933 | | 2091.2183 | Paid vacation, | 2091.9597 |
1935 | | 2093.2292 | know what I mean. | 2093.6943 |
1936 | ROC_int_01 | 2094.2865 | Yeah. | 2094.6502 |
1937 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2094.7546 | The restaurant world, man, | 2095.9856 |
1939 | | 2096.7567 | they pay you a lot of money, but they don't give no benefits, no paid vacation, no nothing. | 2100.1700 |
1940 | ROC_int_01 | 2100.8729 | Mm. | 2101.0827 |
1941 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2103.7919 | And, you could work seven days a week. | 2105.2374 |
1943 | | 2105.8902 | You know what I mean, they could force you to work seven days a week or fire you, | 2108.0555 |
1945 | | 2108.4659 | and the union can't force me, you know what I mean. | 2110.1445 |
1947 | | 2111.2485 | Labor rules and stuff, so. | 2112.7359 |
1949 | | 2114.2607 | Those are good things. | 2115.2211 |
1951 | | 2115.7546 | Bad things and good things about the Roc. | 2117.2420 |
1952 | ROC_int_01 | 2118.3023 | Okay, | 2118.7482 |
1954 | | 2119.5006 | um, | 2120.1301 |
1956 | | 2122.0046 | okay, | 2122.4802 |
1958 | | 2122.8457 | my next question | 2124.1187 |
1960 | | 2124.4515 | has to do more so with | 2125.7291 |
1962 | | 2126.2793 | kind of perception of people who live here, like what are some stereotypes | 2129.8770 |
1964 | | 2130.3153 | about | 2130.8236 |
1966 | | 2131.1873 | Rochesterians? | 2132.3577 |
1968 | | 2132.6392 | Particularly black <laugh> people who live in the city. | 2135.4230 |
1969 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2137.6647 | <exhale> | 2138.0470 |
1971 | | 2139.3598 | Man, | 2139.8027 |
1973 | | 2142.1779 | well- well, coming from like my white friends' point of view, /cause, you know,/ my white homies, I love 'em. | 2146.4649 |
1975 | | 2146.6298 | Like they're honest, like we brothers like, | 2148.2012 |
1977 | | 2148.5696 | they gonna keep it real with me, like they gonna- | 2150.1410 |
1979 | | 2150.2360 | you know what I mean, like. | 2151.0240 |
1981 | | 2152.4013 | <laugh> | 2152.9469 |
1983 | | 2154.3598 | Probably like see- you know, like- | 2155.7213 |
1985 | | 2157.2496 | I don't know, I don't wanna say it that bad, but it's like, | 2160.4530 |
1987 | | 2161.8536 | some of these white people, they really think we're like, | 2164.0172 |
1989 | | 2164.6252 | r- we would like really like rob them and like rape them and like murder them. You know what I mean, it's like, (laughing) | 2170.0266 |
1991 | | 2170.4433 | I could be walking down the street, yo it could be like five white dudes walking down the street /these/ motherfuckers big as hell. | 2174.2296 |
1993 | | 2174.9792 | Walk past me, they wanna split their way and apologize, oh so sorry, we're like bro, stop acting so scared bro it's like five of you guys and y'all | 2180.8608 |
1995 | | 2181.1173 | ten times bigger than me. | 2182.0219 |
1997 | | 2182.1525 | You kn- like, you know, like, | 2182.9545 |
1999 | | 2184.0343 | so they aks where our aggression and anger come from. | 2186.2119 |
2001 | | 2186.5336 | You be mad that somebody's scared of you, | 2188.4034 |
2003 | | 2188.5124 | you know what I mean. | 2189.1186 |
2005 | | 2189.4170 | So I feel like | 2190.0792 |
2007 | | 2190.3934 | th- that's a big perception, like, | 2191.8295 |
2009 | | 2192.6269 | they think th- I think they think every black person like a drug dealer or like a killer automatically like, | 2197.1635 |
2011 | | 2197.2660 | you know what I mean, cause oh, your skin is black. | 2198.9680 |
2013 | | 2199.2682 | And I got dreads. /???/ like, that just put it on for me with the stereotype, like. | 2202.7047 |
2015 | | 2203.0888 | And I wear like gold teeth, | 2204.0634 |
2017 | | 2204.3216 | so I know- And I do that on purpose, just to like, | 2206.4805 |
2019 | | 2206.8349 | push the culture more and more just to be like, | 2208.7281 |
2021 | | 2209.3750 | you know what I mean, like we here, like that shirt is like my gold teeth, you know what I mean. | 2212.3453 |
2022 | ROC_int_01 | 2212.4059 | Mm-hm. | 2212.8489 |
2023 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2213.3711 | Because, | 2213.8701 |
2025 | | 2214.9630 | I wanna break the stereotype, | 2216.3991 |
2027 | | 2216.9651 | but still look like the stereotype. I'm not ch- changing how I look. | 2220.5695 |
2029 | | 2220.8388 | I'm not conforming. I'm not re-twisting my nappy hair until I feel like doing it. | 2224.4665 |
2031 | | 2224.8302 | Ain't nothing changing on me, you know what I mean, like this is who I am, | 2227.3779 |
2033 | | 2227.6624 | and you gonna | 2228.6369 |
2035 | | 2229.1842 | marinate in the culture when- when you see me, | 2231.1567 |
2037 | | 2231.6369 | or you could turn the other way. I don't really care, you know. | 2233.6146 |
2039 | | 2233.8769 | Like, I'm cool w- | 2234.7488 |
2041 | | 2235.0490 | I like- I'll- I'm- I'm so blessed | 2237.0867 |
2043 | | 2237.5874 | to be black. (laughing) | 2238.8231 |
2045 | | 2239.2147 | I'm so happy. (laughing) | 2240.6276 |
2047 | | 2240.9074 | It make me happy every day I wake up. | 2242.0778 |
2049 | | 2242.6035 | But, | 2242.9206 |
2051 | | 2244.1563 | then you got like the Carlton Banks | 2245.6344 |
2053 | | 2246.3618 | that like- like- like- like the in-house. | 2247.9565 |
2055 | | 2248.3284 | We call 'em the in-house, | 2249.2144 |
2057 | | 2249.3822 | and, | 2249.6853 |
2059 | | 2249.9464 | /and do/. | 2250.4081 |
2061 | | 2251.1168 | Or like the | 2251.7883 |
2063 | | 2252.3898 | oreo. | 2252.9540 |
2065 | | 2254.1075 | And those are mostly the kids, | 2255.2173 |
2067 | | 2256.6039 | uh, | 2256.7065 |
2069 | | 2257.0049 | that try to conform, | 2258.1846 |
2071 | | 2258.6294 | kind of like try to | 2259.4547 |
2073 | | 2259.9723 | fit in with | 2260.7836 |
2075 | | 2261.3245 | white people, you know what I mean. | 2262.6861 |
2077 | | 2263.3313 | And white people are not dumb and somet- they- they don't get the street dude, but they do get the- the oreo dude or like the in-house nigga dude. | 2269.4805 |
2079 | | 2269.7277 | You know what I mean, cause they'll mention it to me like, yo, | 2271.1732 |
2081 | | 2271.3877 | look at this like, | 2271.9938 |
2083 | | 2272.4263 | /??/ like Carlton Banks dude, like okay, probably like a black kid from Pittsford or like, | 2275.9328 |
2085 | | 2276.1195 | Hil- h- Hamilton, Hilton, you know, like- like, you know what I mean. | 2278.5121 |
2087 | | 2279.1288 | And like, they click on and see that. | 2280.9240 |
2089 | | 2281.5477 | So like, they get the- | 2282.7321 |
2091 | | 2283.3289 | like the- | 2284.0004 |
2093 | | 2284.2755 | the- th- the oreo black kid right, but they don't get the street dude right. | 2287.1012 |
2095 | | 2287.8601 | And, you know what I mean, like, they know that I came from a bad neighborhood, | 2290.4993 |
2097 | | 2290.7884 | so anytime they see some dude they be like, yo like that dude right there is like, | 2293.3364 |
2099 | | 2293.4387 | I'm like bro he just a normal dude bro, like, | 2295.5417 |
2101 | | 2295.8107 | how the hell can you determine all this already? Like- | 2298.4796 |
2103 | | 2298.8480 | like nah, man way he walk, the w- | 2300.3028 |
2105 | | 2300.5190 | I'm like bro, alright man. | 2301.8247 |
2106 | ROC_int_01 | 2302.8289 | What do you see yourself as? More of a street dude? | 2305.6453 |
2108 | | 2306.2439 | Is it- ho- is that how you would describe yourself, or? | 2308.7246 |
2109 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2308.8383 | I call myself a ghetto kid. | 2310.2325 |
2111 | | 2310.3350 | I'm a [ghetto] baby. | 2311.2210 |
2112 | ROC_int_01 | 2310.5076 | [Right.] | 2310.7500 |
2113 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2311.8429 | I ain't gonna say- I'm not gonna ever disclaim the streets. I came from the streets. I came from the ghetto. | 2316.0553 |
2115 | | 2316.3817 | That's what it is. That's culture. | 2317.4868 |
2116 | ROC_int_01 | 2317.6348 | Mm-hm. | 2318.0134 |
2117 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2318.3436 | It is what it [is.] | 2319.1130 |
2118 | ROC_int_01 | 2318.9964 | [Yeah.] | 2319.3461 |
2119 | | 2319.8964 | Okay, so, | 2320.6844 |
2121 | | 2321.3792 | good, | 2321.7195 |
2123 | | 2322.1066 | you- you went into details about the men. What do you think people think about | 2326.1231 |
2125 | | 2326.3982 | women? | 2326.7666 |
2126 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2327.3343 | [Black women?] | 2328.1969 |
2127 | ROC_int_01 | 2327.3343 | [/And- yeah/,] | 2328.1287 |
2128 | | 2328.4470 | yeah. | 2329.0298 |
2129 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2331.1625 | I don't know like- | 2332.1977 |
2130 | ROC_int_01 | 2332.9548 | Or are there any, I mean. | 2334.0786 |
2132 | | 2334.2838 | There may not be, to you, but, | 2335.7899 |
2134 | | 2336.2160 | I'm curious. | 2336.9713 |
2135 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2339.8093 | I don't really think so. I think- I think that black women r- I think they really running shit in Rochester. | 2344.1277 |
2137 | | 2344.6144 | I- | 2344.8103 |
2139 | | 2345.1588 | I don't really hear too much shit people got to say about black women. | 2347.6546 |
2141 | | 2348.1145 | Like m- all my white homeboys love black women. | 2349.9943 |
2143 | | 2350.9828 | You know what I mean, even the racist ones, they love black women, like, black women run this shit, like. | 2354.4753 |
2145 | | 2354.7568 | Ain't too much to say about the black women, you know what I mean. | 2357.0557 |
2147 | | 2358.5058 | I feel- I think every- I think everybody in Rochester tries to go for 'em. | 2361.3770 |
2149 | | 2362.2554 | It- it's the same way how everyone g- | 2363.7009 |
2151 | | 2363.8688 | goes for the white girl. | 2364.8293 |
2153 | | 2365.3189 | I think | 2365.6873 |
2155 | | 2365.9886 | even white men are going for the black ladies in Rochester. | 2368.3282 |
2156 | ROC_int_01 | 2368.9391 | Hm. | 2369.2130 |
2158 | | 2369.7522 | Interesting. | 2370.5169 |
2159 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2372.1413 | They- they- they just be scared to holler. But they be wanting to holler. | 2374.5459 |
2160 | ROC_int_01 | 2374.9936 | [<laugh>] | 2376.8402 |
2161 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2375.7117 | [<laugh>] | 2376.4344 |
2163 | | 2376.7486 | [<laugh>] | 2377.0750 |
2165 | | 2377.6345 | They just be scared to [holler.] | 2378.6137 |
2166 | ROC_int_01 | 2378.5211 | [What] they be saying? | 2379.4315 |
2167 | | 2379.5574 | <laugh> | 2379.7882 |
2168 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2380.1974 | <laugh> | 2380.4632 |
2170 | | 2380.8301 | <laugh> I don't wanna say. (laughing) <laugh> | 2382.7046 |
2172 | | 2383.8537 | <laugh> | 2384.2547 |
2174 | | 2384.6155 | They always try to compare her to somebody like, oh my god bro, | 2387.2174 |
2176 | | 2387.4412 | she look like, | 2388.2106 |
2178 | | 2388.8698 | um, w- what's that girl name that | 2390.4692 |
2180 | | 2390.6184 | um, Dwyane Wade's dating? | 2391.8075 |
2181 | ROC_int_01 | 2392.2907 | Gabrielle [Union.] | 2393.0307 |
2182 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2392.7185 | [Yeah.] | 2393.0355 |
2183 | | 2393.7974 | My boy think every black girl like [Gabrielle Union.] | 2395.6765 |
2184 | ROC_int_01 | 2395.2242 | [<laugh>] | 2397.3272 |
2185 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2396.1912 | [<laugh>] | 2396.6901 |
2186 | | 2397.3348 | <laugh> | 2398.3688 |
2188 | | 2399.0542 | Oh my god, it's so funny yo, it's so funny. | 2401.7045 |
2190 | | 2402.1801 | Yo like, | 2402.5764 |
2192 | | 2402.8953 | we be in group message, | 2403.9957 |
2194 | | 2404.2743 | and they just show mad pictures of black women, my white boys be like, oh my god, | 2406.9025 |
2196 | | 2406.9957 | look at her, I'm like yo bro, you guys is | 2408.6184 |
2198 | | 2408.7490 | ridiculous. | 2409.8075 |
2200 | | 2410.3419 | And then my bro, um, /RD-NAME-3/, he's Asian. | 2413.1059 |
2202 | | 2413.5786 | He dates nothing but black women. | 2414.9122 |
2204 | | 2415.6804 | Know what I mean, he has two black children. | 2417.4803 |
2206 | | 2417.9839 | It- he just- I think he tryna infiltrate the race, | 2419.8863 |
2208 | | 2420.1894 | and just keep getting black women pregnant like every three years. | 2422.4760 |
2210 | | 2423.3620 | He will only date black women. | 2424.5743 |
2212 | | 2424.8949 | So I think in Rochester for black women, it's a little different. | 2427.1797 |
2214 | | 2427.9025 | [And m-] | 2428.0843 |
2215 | ROC_int_01 | 2427.9071 | [Yeah], so there aren't [really] | 2428.9050 |
2216 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2428.7838 | [And m-] | 2429.0589 |
2217 | ROC_int_01 | 2429.1148 | [stereotypes.] | 2429.9914 |
2218 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2429.1708 | [Cause most black women] are like independent. | 2430.9864 |
2219 | | 2431.3268 | Well no it's a stereotype of like feminism. | 2433.2899 |
2221 | | 2433.6507 | Like, | 2433.8745 |
2223 | | 2434.0237 | I feel like a lot of black women in Rochester are feminists. | 2435.7863 |
2225 | | 2436.5265 | And that come from being independent for so long. | 2438.5222 |
2227 | | 2438.6062 | you know what I mean, f- for- for like the female race to be- | 2440.7744 |
2229 | | 2441.8052 | Well, the females | 2442.9663 |
2231 | | 2443.2974 | to be like, | 2444.2020 |
2233 | | 2444.6578 | independent for so long without like that male figure in your life, | 2447.6525 |
2235 | | 2448.0553 | that when like the daughter grows up, | 2449.6034 |
2237 | | 2449.9892 | she carries the traits of being like a independent woman herself. | 2452.8009 |
2239 | | 2452.9921 | So it's hard to like- | 2453.9480 |
2241 | | 2454.8759 | a man to kind of like | 2456.1209 |
2243 | | 2456.8408 | conform that person that's been independent and strongly on their own, you know what I mean, like. | 2460.7034 |
2245 | | 2460.9599 | To be a strong independent woman, and to get married or to be i- in a relationship | 2464.3049 |
2247 | | 2464.5739 | you kind of gotta kind of like, conform and like | 2466.6303 |
2249 | | 2466.9806 | tone yourself down for both of you guys to fit, | 2469.0334 |
2251 | | 2469.2275 | you know what I mean. | 2469.9194 |
2253 | | 2470.5553 | So I think that's a huge thing, where people like, you know what. | 2473.0173 |
2255 | | 2473.2802 | That's what make a lot of people just go to white girls, cause they like, yo I'm not tryna keep | 2476.0359 |
2257 | | 2476.4853 | arguing with you, but it's like | 2477.7909 |
2259 | | 2478.1360 | she pay her bill, she got her job, she bust her ass, she got her education and you do too. | 2482.0983 |
2261 | | 2482.3734 | So now, | 2482.8863 |
2263 | | 2483.4243 | women in- | 2484.1716 |
2265 | | 2484.3371 | in our generation, I feel like, | 2485.8723 |
2267 | | 2487.4595 | they gonna argue back, you know what I mean. | 2489.5438 |
2269 | | 2489.9652 | And it's- I'm not saying n- not stand your ground | 2492.3013 |
2271 | | 2492.6464 | but women just like yo, we don't need y'all. | 2494.3128 |
2273 | | 2495.4162 | You know what I mean, s- | 2495.9967 |
2275 | | 2496.1797 | so, when you already got that attitude, dude approach you, it's just already like oh, she snobby, | 2499.2759 |
2277 | | 2499.6944 | you know what I mean. | 2500.3658 |
2278 | ROC_int_01 | 2500.3985 | Mm. | 2500.7995 |
2279 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2502.2170 | So yeah. | 2502.9724 |
2280 | ROC_int_01 | 2503.1700 | Yeah. | 2503.5290 |
2282 | | 2503.8181 | Okay, | 2504.2052 |
2284 | | 2504.5875 | well, | 2504.8813 |
2286 | | 2505.2730 | this'll be my last set of questions. They're more so, uh, a way to ask about language, um, | 2510.1894 |
2287 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2510.2267 | Mm-hm. | 2510.5858 |
2288 | ROC_int_01 | 2510.7274 | and that is about whether or not, | 2512.5786 |
2290 | | 2512.7977 | um, | 2513.1521 |
2292 | | 2513.6435 | you think, or people have told you Rochesterians have a accent | 2516.8329 |
2294 | | 2517.0148 | or talk funny. | 2518.0797 |
2296 | | 2518.2895 | You know, | 2518.7884 |
2298 | | 2518.9796 | things like that | 2519.7536 |
2300 | | 2520.1080 | when you maybe go other places, or. | 2522.0962 |
2301 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2522.8135 | Well, you know, New York City people say we sound like we got a down south accent, | 2526.2572 |
2303 | | 2527.1553 | and everyone else say we got a New York | 2528.4176 |
2305 | | 2528.6587 | accent, | 2529.0889 |
2307 | | 2529.5522 | you know what I mean. | 2530.1667 |
2308 | ROC_int_01 | 2530.0778 | Mm-hm. | 2530.5074 |
2309 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2530.8247 | But I talk weird because like, | 2532.2051 |
2311 | | 2533.6080 | I lived so many different places. | 2535.3111 |
2313 | | 2535.4813 | And then like growing up, like Patois and all that | 2537.7392 |
2315 | | 2537.8551 | like- like my family. | 2538.8925 |
2317 | | 2539.9623 | Like, my language is all messed up, so people here don't be knowing what I be saying, how I be talking. I know it. I know it's bad. | 2545.5321 |
2319 | | 2545.7543 | But it's cool, it's [culture.] | 2546.9126 |
2320 | ROC_int_01 | 2546.5371 | [<singing> /??/] | 2547.9554 |
2321 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2547.4117 | [<laugh>] | 2547.6434 |
2323 | | 2547.8041 | [It's the] way I [sound.] | 2548.7732 |
2324 | ROC_int_01 | 2548.3100 | [<laugh>] | 2548.9198 |
2325 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2548.9888 | I love it. | 2549.4095 |
2327 | | 2549.9343 | Nah but, | 2550.4826 |
2329 | | 2551.8942 | I go down south, somewhere somebody'll be like, yo you from New York. | 2554.3903 |
2331 | | 2554.8753 | But you go to New York City, people try and like be like yo, you s- from the south you got a Southern accent. | 2558.9835 |
2333 | | 2559.3759 | I think cause we say Southern words too. | 2561.2696 |
2334 | ROC_int_01 | 2561.5896 | Mm. | 2562.0192 |
2335 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2562.2443 | But I don't think it was really like meant to be said, but we just joke around, be like yo bruh, like stuff like that, you know what I mean. | 2567.7409 |
2337 | | 2568.0112 | So when I go to New York I'm like yo bruh, they like, | 2569.6191 |
2339 | | 2569.7054 | you down south, like, bro, | 2570.9092 |
2341 | | 2571.5663 | no I just- the word | 2572.7001 |
2343 | | 2572.8301 | just flew out my mouth, like | 2573.9553 |
2345 | | 2574.2164 | it's still culture, like, you know? | 2575.3889 |
2347 | | 2575.7112 | People be separating the culture too much like, it's all one melting pot of culture, like. | 2579.1575 |
2348 | ROC_int_01 | 2579.7437 | Yeah, is there any New York slang you think that we do take | 2582.4033 |
2350 | | 2582.5641 | though? | 2582.8524 |
2352 | | 2583.4103 | Like, | 2583.6277 |
2354 | | 2585.7910 | I don't know, son, mad. | 2587.2092 |
2355 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2587.2092 | Yeah, son, | 2588.0933 |
2356 | | 2588.9305 | like come on, like the way we say come on. | 2591.0087 |
2358 | | 2591.6516 | I think the way we pronounce our A's. | 2593.6892 |
2360 | | 2594.6469 | Like the c- like, you know, | 2595.4758 |
2362 | | 2595.6011 | they be like car, park. | 2596.8763 |
2364 | | 2597.5523 | Know what I mean, we don't pronounce our- | 2598.7626 |
2366 | | 2599.1105 | pronounce certain words. We kind of like connect words and then like fly through 'em. | 2601.8997 |
2368 | | 2603.0418 | Stuff like /nah mean/, | 2604.2047 |
2370 | | 2604.4127 | feel me. | 2605.0320 |
2372 | | 2605.5407 | I know I say like /nah mean/ like a hundred times, | 2607.5215 |
2374 | | 2607.7665 | don't even know I say it, until a white person tells me like yo, | 2610.0724 |
2376 | | 2610.5006 | you say this word a lot. | 2611.4733 |
2378 | | 2611.6009 | Then I start thinking about it like, oh god I do. | 2613.5262 |
2380 | | 2615.3329 | But, | 2615.5835 |
2382 | | 2615.9806 | yeah, | 2616.4202 |
2384 | | 2616.9355 | I think | 2617.6210 |
2386 | | 2618.3491 | New York got its sound | 2619.2284 |
2387 | ROC_int_01 | 2619.8032 | /I know/ [like deadass.] | 2620.9047 |
2388 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2620.0112 | [that we just can't-] | 2620.7723 |
2389 | | 2621.4720 | Word, | 2621.9258 |
2391 | | 2622.2189 | word. | 2622.7531 |
2392 | ROC_int_01 | 2623.3118 | [<laugh>] | 2624.0067 |
2393 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2623.5056 | [<laugh>] | 2623.8271 |
2394 | | 2626.1341 | But down south, | 2626.9945 |
2396 | | 2627.4105 | but- | 2627.7273 |
2398 | | 2628.0503 | music influences the culture so | 2630.1517 |
2400 | | 2630.2876 | we do say their words, you know. | 2631.5687 |
2402 | | 2632.0833 | I like the word sauce, | 2633.1060 |
2404 | | 2633.7982 | know what I mean. | 2634.2898 |
2406 | | 2634.5479 | Like it w- like two years ago it was swag, now the wor- now it's sauce. | 2637.5262 |
2408 | | 2638.7845 | You know, | 2639.0682 |
2410 | | 2639.6922 | So I- | 2639.9428 |
2412 | | 2641.3090 | I like- I- I like some of the stuff they say too. | 2643.0913 |
2413 | ROC_int_01 | 2644.6919 | Yeah, | 2645.0040 |
2415 | | 2645.4342 | okay, well, | 2646.3796 |
2417 | | 2646.7843 | that's all the questions I have, | 2648.0512 |
2419 | | 2648.1978 | um, but if you have any last thoughts, | 2650.1124 |
2421 | | 2650.7940 | /you know/. | 2651.2667 |
2422 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2652.1366 | Mm. | 2652.9024 |
2424 | | 2654.0323 | <ts> | 2654.2025 |
2426 | | 2656.9502 | Not really. | 2657.8199 |
2427 | ROC_int_01 | 2658.2784 | Okay, | 2658.7323 |
2429 | | 2659.5217 | cool. | 2659.8243 |
2430 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2660.1032 | Like I- but like I always say, | 2661.2898 |
2432 | | 2662.1577 | I watch you and /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/ keep doing y'all thing, man. | 2665.8073 |
2434 | | 2666.0040 | [It's awesome.] | 2666.5712 |
2435 | ROC_int_01 | 2666.1221 | [Thank you], we [trying out here.] | 2668.1753 |
2436 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2667.0962 | [I sh- I show you guys off] all the time. | 2668.7756 |
2437 | ROC_int_01 | 2668.8324 | Aw, you so sweet. | 2670.1021 |
2438 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2670.3149 | /RD-NAME-2/ know my boys. | 2671.5212 |
2440 | | 2671.6098 | She a- | 2671.8844 |
2442 | | 2672.3680 | she know my boys. | 2673.2851 |
2443 | ROC_int_01 | 2673.7890 | That's so [sweet.] | 2674.5643 |
2444 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2674.3516 | [Mm-hm.] | 2674.7676 |
2445 | ROC_int_01 | 2674.9803 | Yeah. | 2675.3680 |
2446 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2675.5902 | /?/ from Buffalo. | 2676.5877 |
2447 | ROC_int_01 | 2677.4887 | Yeah. | 2677.8763 |
2448 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2678.0607 | Yeah, so. | 2678.7840 |
2449 | ROC_int_01 | 2679.6424 | Okay, | 2680.1199 |
2451 | | 2680.4461 | well, do you still consent to me using the interview? | 2683.0065 |
2453 | | 2683.1246 | Always [ask at the] beginning and end. | 2684.2829 |
2454 | ROC_se0_ag1_m_02 | 2683.3232 | [Yeah.] | 2683.6163 |
2455 | | 2684.4909 | Mm-hm yeah. | 2685.0629 |
2456 | ROC_int_01 | 2685.1156 | Okay, | 2685.4789 |
2458 | | 2685.6329 | cool. | 2685.9280 |
2460 | | 2686.1225 | Thank you, appreciate it. | 2687.4769 |