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1ROC_int_010.2513Great, so like I said, I'll just ask things about, uh, where you're growing up, what you're into [and, you know], you can feel free to6.7131
2ROC_se0_ag1_m_035.1344[Mm-hm.]5.7183
3ROC_int_016.9752take it where you want. [Um],8.5103
4ROC_se0_ag1_m_038.1179[Okay.]8.5812
5ROC_int_018.6991yeah, it's pretty open ended.9.9793
6ROC_se0_ag1_m_0310.1921Oh, [that works] out, [that works out.]12.2016
7ROC_int_0110.6365[Uh,]11.0572
9 11.4401[yeah. <laugh>]12.4907 
10ROC_se0_ag1_m_0312.7505[Mm.]13.0341
11ROC_int_0112.7612[So], I usually start off though with questions about where you grew up.15.6106
12ROC_se0_ag1_m_0315.8706Oh okay,16.3359
13ROC_int_0116.3430[So-] and, you know, you're a born [native here, right?]19.1651
14ROC_se0_ag1_m_0316.4895[alright.]16.9274
16 18.5505[Yes], born and raised in Rochester, so,21.3903 
17 21.8380um, I grew up on,23.6658
19 24.4305<laugh>25.1859 
21 25.5542/it's/25.8615 
23 26.2316I would say nineteenth ward,27.6141 
25 27.7488[nineteenth] ward, Southwest area, uh, /RD-ADDRESS-5/ was31.6898 
26ROC_int_0127.7822[Okay.]28.1228
27ROC_se0_ag1_m_0332.1506the main street.33.0341
29 33.2090Um,33.9134 
31 34.1096to this day35.1167 
33 35.2729my grandmother is still there.36.9100 
35 37.3979Um, so technically, you can say that that-40.3977 
37 41.3117that41.5315 
39 41.6639house raised about a good three generations.44.7758 
40ROC_int_0144.9736Wow.45.4038
41ROC_se0_ag1_m_0345.5079You know, and that goes for my little sisters and then my generation,49.8271
43 50.1092and then50.7236 
45 51.3083my uncles.52.0833 
47 52.6488So, it's- it's- it's weird, but54.3252 
49 54.9159yeah, we've been there for a long, long time.57.8706 
50ROC_int_0157.9510Mm-hm.58.5476
51ROC_se0_ag1_m_0358.7499You know, [I-]59.5268
52ROC_int_0159.3172[S-] so, are you the first generation native to62.5191
53 62.6090Rochester, or are your [parents-]64.4866
54ROC_se0_ag1_m_0364.2847[My] parents, [my parents], um, I have-66.6280
55ROC_int_0165.0572[Okay.]65.2944
56ROC_se0_ag1_m_0366.7541I have-67.3575
58 67.6080on my dad's side,68.5457 
60 68.7490I would say,69.2635 
62 69.6559um,70.3359 
64 70.8000I have71.5564 
66 72.3931three uncles,73.2772 
68 73.7357one aunty.74.6442 
70 75.0934Um,75.7836 
72 75.9396m-76.1570 
74 76.9042the first born son and /the/78.3600 
76 78.6232m- first born lady,79.9700 
78 80.5389they was born in81.4716 
80 81.9065Mississippi.82.6145 
82 83.0155That's where my grandparents were from.84.3812 
84 84.9415Um, so when they came up here, that's when they had two more children, which is my father90.4960 
86 90.6070and then91.1346 
88 91.5116my uncle.91.9925 
90 92.4588So,93.0527 
92 94.5193they broke in, they broke everybody else in.96.5094 
94 96.7410Once they was born in Rochester they found the spot that was on /RD-ADDRESS-2/.100.5277 
96 101.0994And the rest is history, like103.2964 
98 103.6723/RD-ADDRESS-3/, that whole street is in the lineage as well107.4199 
100 107.4990cause of my m- mother.108.7981 
102 109.2457And my granny used to l-110.2745 
104 110.3667my granny and my grandfather used to live on /RD-ADDRESS-3/113.2105 
106 114.0919when-114.6538 
108 115.1247on my mom's side when m-116.3510 
110 116.9665my grandma118.1905 
112 118.2969and my grandad on my dad's side moved on /RD-ADDRESS-2/.120.9670 
114 121.7136So everything was in close proximity.123.4371 
116 123.7018It's weird,124.2893 
118 124.5839but124.8777 
120 125.3176yeah, I guess it worked out for the best.126.9921 
121ROC_int_01127.0711[Yeah.]127.3749
122ROC_se0_ag1_m_03127.1726[<laugh>]128.0925
123ROC_int_01128.1039Family [nearby, that's cool.]129.7142
124ROC_se0_ag1_m_03128.7945[Right.]129.5760
125 129.7426Right.130.2638
126ROC_int_01130.3052Um, how would you describe the neighborhood in terms of [people, places] maybe?135.4246
127ROC_se0_ag1_m_03133.3824Um,134.4175
128 136.0156From back then or now?137.4947
129ROC_int_01137.7724Both.138.1506
130ROC_se0_ag1_m_03138.3462Both, [okay I] can do that. Um,140.4957
131ROC_int_01138.7140[Mm-hm.]139.2182
132ROC_se0_ag1_m_03141.0366back then, was-143.1626
134 143.7582I can honestly say,145.2223 
136 145.5870that was like the definition of what the word community is.148.8648 
138 149.3564Cause, you know,150.6327 
140 150.7379um, I wouldn't say that I was, you know,153.4666 
142 154.9961the greatest child.156.1561 
144 156.5617You know, I mean, I was a good kid. Me and my brother was a good- we was, uh, good kids,160.7889 
146 160.8669you know.161.2988 
148 162.4879However, we did get into some bad stuff, you know,165.4979 
150 166.1600playing hide and go seek, jumping on roofs and stuff and, you know, just-170.8784 
152 171.8665just getting into173.0020 
154 173.2258anything, you know,174.4619 
156 174.8022defying rules and everything.176.4246 
158 176.7319So, you know,177.5844 
160 177.6778when the situation pops up and you get whooped by the neighbor before you get whooped by your grandmama,182.4825 
162 182.7541and then after your grandmama, get whooped by your mama,185.2767 
164 185.6041that's when you know everybody's on one accord.187.8157 
165ROC_int_01187.8064[Mm-hm.]188.6915
166ROC_se0_ag1_m_03188.2250[You know, so] like, that's- that's- that's the epitome of what191.4272
167 192.0553I grew up in.192.8840
169 193.2622You know, so I always have to watch what I do195.8686 
171 196.0246because196.7377 
173 197.7916there's always eyes on me,199.2583 
175 199.4095you know what I'm saying.200.2639 
177 200.6082And201.2237 
179 202.7370just to translate it towards now, you know,205.1843 
181 205.6226and it's not just my neighborhood, it's other neighborhoods as well,208.5982 
183 208.9368where209.4657 
185 210.5614neighbors do not211.7836 
187 212.5116care to speak to one another214.9321 
189 215.2392or to understand,216.5612 
191 217.7049hey,218.3862 
193 218.4748uh, I just moved in over here, you know,220.6989 
195 220.9973my name is such and such, I have a son, I have a daughter.223.9239 
197 224.1850Not a lot of people do that,225.4142 
199 225.5631you know, so that's one of the things I've picked up.227.7908 
201 228.2431Um,228.9036 
203 229.3652and growing up,230.2292 
205 230.4717I would say once every- every house that I've been in, I've233.7129 
207 234.6547vowed to know exactly who's around.237.6164 
209 237.8995Because, you know, right now, I'm239.8120 
211 239.9515engaged. I have-241.4099 
212ROC_int_01241.7633[Congrats.]242.8364
213ROC_se0_ag1_m_03241.9659[uh],242.6324
214 242.8570I have243.3439
216 243.4857step kids. I have five step kids,245.3712 
218 245.7671you know, the246.2895 
220 246.6275two littlest ones, the twins, they are249.2860 
222 250.3406very vocal.251.4323 
224 251.7354They love playing outside, so if anybody has other kids around, you know, they would definitely make friends.258.1087 
226 258.6003So I'll h- have to know, okay if they are friends with them, I got to know where they live at.262.8690 
228 263.1535You know, I don't want nobody having no type of issues. If I can talk to their parents then that'd be wonderful.268.7010 
230 269.0857You know, and269.9286 
232 270.1291some- some271.2114 
234 271.4241of those kids want to cling on and do273.9152 
236 274.1903activities with our family, so I make sure that they /co-/ aks their parents, you know.278.8976 
238 279.1654Things like that, that's how it's supposed to be, but,281.5321 
240 281.6054you know, a lot of people doesn't- the- it- that doesn't happen284.6559 
242 285.0863nowdays.285.8668 
244 286.0039I think it's, uh, more of a288.5823 
246 288.7561thought like,289.4699 
248 291.3125you can't trust people,292.9079 
249ROC_int_01292.9588Mm.293.2992
250ROC_se0_ag1_m_03293.6790I think.294.1467
252 294.4136It's a- it's a- I don't know, it's a- it's a-296.6699 
254 297.7438hm, it's a hard-298.9344 
256 299.0313it's a- it's hard to touch on.300.4440 
258 301.1894Because yes, some people can't be trusted.303.8939 
260 304.0476However, if you don't try to see if you can trust 'em, you'll never know.308.3279 
262 309.3079It's just309.8546 
264 309.9798people310.3628 
266 310.4798don't try.310.9742 
268 311.2675<laugh>312.9643 
269ROC_int_01313.3308I get [it, yeah.]314.2111
270ROC_se0_ag1_m_03313.6435[Yeah, people] don't try. It's- it's a-315.7543
271 316.5029You know, I love my city,317.6029
273 317.8848and so I kn- I know- I know what my city has been through. I was born when we were seven one six as the area code, so323.8501 
275 324.5234it- it's different now,326.2363 
277 326.5081you know.327.0966 
279 327.6604And328.0497 
281 328.2671now, I'm living on the east side,329.7291 
283 330.2176/?/ after growing up on the west side for so long. I'm still a west-sider, but I just know a little bit of the east side.335.5211 
284ROC_int_01335.6676/inaudible/335.8621
285ROC_se0_ag1_m_03335.8237[<laugh>]336.9568
286ROC_int_01336.3579[Yeah, I was just] going to [ask if] you had lived anywhere [else like-]340.0413
287ROC_se0_ag1_m_03337.4704[<laugh>]337.7824
289 339.5686[Yes], um,340.6824 
290 341.1912actually,341.9792
292 343.1264um, I've lived344.9324 
294 345.1406in other345.6617 
296 345.9386cities as well.346.8817 
298 347.0117Um,347.8205 
300 348.9822I would say,349.8663 
302 350.7336mostly, uh, in Rochester, I've lived on the west side353.6545 
304 354.0555up until my later years.355.4511 
306 355.9034Um, younger, I've lived in, uh, Georgia. I've lived in Palmdale, California.362.0408 
308 362.3954Um,363.0626 
310 364.5013went and visited a couple of other places, had366.5776 
312 366.7974like homes in other places, like, uh, Michigan and, um,370.2499 
314 370.6484yeah, Saginaw, Michigan, that's exactly where it's at. <laugh> And, uh, Harlem, New York, cause most of my family is from Harlem.376.5327 
316 377.0716Um,377.6398 
318 378.0441but other than that,379.0052 
320 379.9054yeah, I was- it was mostly here.382.2307 
322 382.4127Growing up was on the west side.384.0965 
324 384.3810Once I got towards, uh, high school actually,386.9363 
326 387.0616that's when387.6369 
328 388.0313I came- we came back from California.390.2979 
330 390.9274I did my ninth grade year in California.392.8525 
332 393.3980It kind of messed me up cause a lot of things. I've-396.1930 
334 397.6954Hm,398.0204 
336 398.3478their school's curriculum was very very different.401.3219 
338 402.7377And with a lot of stuff that was happening at that time, it was very hard to concentrate.406.7265 
340 408.0128So I bombed my ninth r-409.2678 
342 409.3426my ninth grade year.410.3379 
344 410.7108However, I've l- I learned412.5153 
346 412.9502so much spiritual wealth.416.6113 
347ROC_int_01416.7389Hm.417.1549
348ROC_se0_ag1_m_03417.9338It's- it's- it's mindblowing.419.4697
350 420.2857Even though I- even though I-421.5429 
352 421.7658my grades wasn't looking like it, I- I n- I came back home with a new mindset.425.9366 
354 426.5202Once I came back home, actually got a house right across the street from my mama-430.2067 
356 430.4118my grandmama,430.9989 
358 431.0911I'm sorry. <laugh>432.2163 
360 432.6079And, um,433.6269 
362 434.2145then we had moved to the435.4693 
364 435.6147w-435.8452 
366 436.0189east side436.6286 
368 437.0659for my twelfth grade year, um, in /RD-ADDRESS-3/ off of /RD-ADDRESS-2/.440.7923 
370 441.2130And which that was cool,442.3607 
372 442.5049you know, that was443.5060 
374 443.6738more of a sense of community too, because everybody knew everybody. I mean,447.6402 
376 447.8910once you're in a apartment complex, it's kind of hard not to talk to451.2159 
378 451.3435somebody else.452.1838 
380 452.6136Um,453.1029 
382 453.2613yet, still peop-454.0386 
384 454.3010people didn't talk to other people.455.5950 
385ROC_int_01455.7128Mm.456.1079
386ROC_se0_ag1_m_03456.1471You know, but456.6864
388 457.1580that was- that was a good environment. Um,459.7178 
390 460.0357and after /RD-ADDRESS-3/,461.6241 
392 462.0153I would say-462.8402 
394 463.4697oh yeah, after /RD-NAME-3/, I464.7504 
396 466.2505bombed college.467.3999 
398 467.8837<laugh>469.6085 
400 470.1521It was unfortunate.471.2359 
402 471.3659I was- I was- I was a lost puppy.473.4377 
404 473.9806Um,474.7562 
406 474.9614basically, I was trying to476.4535 
408 477.2725go for what I graduated in. I graduated from medicine481.0345 
410 481.2141engineering.481.8963 
412 482.4383So I tried-483.3145 
414 483.4587I wanted to go for, um,485.2642 
416 485.7511computer hardware engineering.487.2553 
418 487.5192And that's what I had signed up for when applying to /RD-SCHOOL-7/ University.491.7322 
420 492.1388I got accepted,492.9754 
422 493.2318yet when I- when my parents drove me down there,495.9827 
424 496.1818/and/, you know, moved me in,497.5816 
426 498.0153and I498.3579 
428 498.8023really got down to my major,500.7981 
430 502.0793it seemed that on their /centennieth/503.8827 
432 504.1385year,504.6980 
434 504.9926basically on they hundredth506.1899 
436 506.3210year being there,507.3634 
438 508.3135they took out my major509.5517 
440 511.0251last minute.511.6751 
442 513.9372[So]514.8578 
443ROC_int_01514.4430[That's frustrating.]515.5516
444ROC_se0_ag1_m_03515.8431it was either take computer information systems518.7559
446 519.5690or come back next year when my parents already left me.521.9336 
448 523.1737[<laugh>]525.1104 
449ROC_int_01524.3871[Wow.]525.2050
450ROC_se0_ag1_m_03525.8621So, you know.527.0898
452 527.3183And then a whole bunch of stuff-528.3913 
454 528.5089whole bunch of other stuff happened530.0909 
456 531.0222that really got me lost in the sauce. I wasn't- I was-534.4473 
458 534.8939I was a person that535.9179 
460 536.3028cared more about family, than538.4155 
462 538.5503I would say social experiences.540.6288 
464 541.1204Um, when I was in high school, the Upward Bound is what had me544.8740 
466 546.1702actually express myself and learn how to socialize with other people.550.1933 
468 550.6483But before that I was just a homebody.552.7961 
470 552.9451I just knew I was a big brother.554.3143 
472 554.6365I'm a role model.555.5344 
474 555.7377I have to set an example.557.0050 
476 557.1048That's all I knew.557.9231 
478 558.6831Um,559.3419 
480 559.5830so once I go into college, oh my god, socializing562.5735 
482 562.9919became a priority564.8096 
484 565.1618instead of-566.0132 
486 566.3246you know, instead of something to568.1575 
488 568.6444just569.1432 
490 569.6617ease your mind on.570.7950 
492 570.9345You know, it became something that572.6087 
494 573.0237I felt that I needed574.3374 
496 574.6495to do.575.2360 
498 576.0144That's what I was down there for.577.5666 
500 577.9820You know,578.3011 
502 578.7041I did a lot of stuff in music,580.2304 
504 580.4845got into a couple of battles.582.0191 
506 582.5842One person that I have battled is actually the face of battle rap at this moment.586.9066 
508 587.0473His name is /RD-NAME-2/.588.0137 
510 589.1362Hey,589.4246 
512 589.5257it's cool.589.9142 
514 590.5069<laugh> It was- it was very cool.592.2429 
516 592.3540Um,592.9733 
518 593.3649so,593.8756 
520 594.0222you know, those experiences helped me,596.0850 
522 596.4514you know.596.8729 
524 598.2866And when I came back, that's when I moved back with my, uh, grandmother on /RD-ADDRESS-2/.602.8319 
526 603.2972Um,604.0815 
528 605.5831tried to do /RD-SCHOOL-3/ a little bit,607.2497 
530 607.8198just to figure out608.7878 
532 608.9154what I really wanted to do.610.1505 
534 610.5851Then I realized I just really wanted to do music,612.7600 
536 613.0637and613.7850 
538 614.3066what I wanna do with music615.8096 
540 616.3320is not616.8395 
542 617.1995in Rochester.618.1789 
544 618.4541However,619.2106 
546 620.4355now I'm just focused on621.9016 
548 622.9176having a project.624.0308 
550 624.5928Like,624.9268 
552 625.7318right now,626.4606 
554 627.5494all of these life lessons that I'm saying, it's like629.9209 
556 630.3758my project is called /RD-WORK-2/.631.9015 
558 632.7194You know,633.0917 
560 633.2098it kind of-633.7559 
562 633.9402I'm a tall guy, so it kind of r-635.2568 
564 635.6295relates to me636.5959 
566 637.0033growing up637.5998 
568 638.1990from a kid to an adult.639.3670 
570 640.2794But it's also me growing up into knowing myself,643.9070 
572 644.1268on top of that644.9891 
574 646.0033seeing how I've grown as a artist and how my music sounds differently.650.9658 
576 651.3785Uh, I realize how powerful653.9179 
578 654.5325words are.655.5318 
580 655.6954So,656.1141 
582 656.7112with those words, it's kind of like658.4057 
584 658.9638they're divine.659.8011 
586 660.6190So whatever you say, you bring to yourself.662.9431 
588 663.1232When I first started writing, I was a very violent person.666.0908 
590 666.6088And then I brought that667.6458 
592 668.0980to my actual life669.4555 
594 669.9660after saying it for so long, so I had to change my approach, my whole entire approach674.7227 
596 675.2616just to be more light.676.3712 
598 677.1220You know, [so],677.8815 
599ROC_int_01677.6971[Mm-hm.]678.3429
600ROC_se0_ag1_m_03679.4225now I'm here.680.0939
602 680.2043[<laugh>]681.3361 
603ROC_int_01680.7381[<laugh>]681.3834
604ROC_se0_ag1_m_03681.7014Now I'm here. Um, I live on the east side now,684.7675
606 685.2395uh,685.7680 
608 685.8487on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Street686.7602 
610 687.0312off of /RD-ADDRESS-2/.687.8892 
612 688.0570Um,688.6005 
614 690.5785/RD-ADDRESS-2/ is not bad to me,692.0544 
616 692.1808you know. Um,693.2095 
618 693.4901I'm actually volunteering for,695.3357 
620 695.4330uh,695.9271 
622 696.4348outreach697.1551 
624 697.2402uh, /RD-WORK-3/,698.3557 
626 698.4360[um,]699.0969 
627ROC_int_01698.7222[That's great.]699.2795
628ROC_se0_ag1_m_03699.4995/RD-WORK-10/, they're called /RD-WORK-1/, uh, /RD-WORK-3/.703.1726
630 703.6229Um, basically, they-705.4591 
632 706.0177it's- it's- it's pretty- it's pretty heavy what they do,709.0338 
634 709.3957and it's very much needed. Like if711.8114 
636 712.0714anything in the-713.0987 
638 714.0250uh,714.7678 
640 715.6151the one four six two one area code,717.6885 
642 717.8634if anything happens like a shooting or anything like that,720.8900 
644 721.7928w-721.9535 
646 722.2939what722.6627 
648 722.8866they do and what I volunteer with them724.8688 
650 725.0709is725.5525 
652 725.9426going around. They do calls of action.728.2850 
654 728.6830So,729.1571 
656 729.3779if there was a shooting at a specific spot731.4296 
658 732.2900in the732.5787 
660 732.9188two one area,733.8343 
662 734.7538they go to that area, pass out flyers, two days afterwards, that's when they gather there, just to show people,740.7582 
664 741.2035you know,741.6782 
666 742.0332that742.4365 
668 742.7914there's another way.744.0016 
670 744.8526You know, they got-746.1686 
672 746.3267I got into it747.2928 
674 747.4769cause, you know, I was looking at749.3865 
676 749.5758their criteria cause they look for kids, kids that's at high risk of-753.6729 
678 754.0558of gang violence, of- of- of- uh, j- basically like street life.758.3492 
680 758.8267You know, and759.8731 
682 760.2778just letting them know, lay- look,762.0496 
684 762.1945we got- there's people that support you.764.2878 
686 764.8111There's- there's people that's here for you. Um,767.2994 
688 769.3365they-770.1711 
690 771.6067they make772.5028 
692 773.3364my view on a neighborhood775.2266 
694 775.5645very, very different.776.9827 
695ROC_int_01777.1813Hm.777.5841
696ROC_se0_ag1_m_03777.9188You know what I mean, /cause/ it's like like I care more.780.3807
697ROC_int_01780.7289[Mm.]780.9641
698ROC_se0_ag1_m_03780.8081[I] care way more now.782.4120
699 782.8467And it's not just for what's happening on my street.785.4993
701 785.6246It's like that whole entire area.787.8371 
703 788.3211You know, sometimes789.7591 
705 790.1431I'm- there may be something going on, on St. Paul,793.3142 
707 793.6782or it may be something going on near the Conkey area or797.7995 
709 798.1538something going on on Hudson, on Clinton.801.6290 
711 801.8901It's- it's- i- anywhere around those areas,804.2808 
713 804.5422uh,805.0318 
715 805.5864we're out there,806.6306 
717 806.8114you know,807.3213 
719 807.8062just showing people look,808.9071 
721 809.1116if you know somebody that's been through situations, just811.8809 
723 812.2828tell him812.9613 
725 813.2850or her813.7203 
727 813.8373to call us.814.6430 
729 815.2258You know, that's- that's all that we're saying,817.1127 
731 817.5976and817.9146 
733 818.6421it feels good819.6027 
735 820.7424to know that people822.2221 
737 823.7255will do exactly what you said. Like,826.4541 
739 827.0365okay, I got a prospect for you.828.8840 
741 829.3898I'll let you know.830.3177 
743 830.8213It may take a while, I'm not even telling 'em to rush. I'm saying do it at your own pace.834.8414 
745 835.3000But835.6289 
747 835.8484it's- it's- it's very beautiful838.0443 
749 838.2701to-838.7561 
751 839.4610to see that side and for me to be on that841.9643 
753 842.3353side of the fence.843.3234 
755 843.6740I've never844.2554 
757 844.8890done really volunteer work like that.846.9153 
759 847.4891And on top of that I've never seen a program quite like this.850.9221 
761 851.3334So, you know, that- it's very,853.4674 
763 853.6593very854.3235 
765 854.9338comforting.855.6665 
767 856.3122I took my little kids, the little twins, /I/ took them859.1793 
769 859.4927to one of the- uh, one of the, uh, outreaches.862.1156 
771 862.4593You know, and they was scared at first, cause /?/ they- they don't like people.865.8746 
773 866.3468<laugh> They don't like interacting with people.868.7439 
775 869.2444Too many people gets them nervous.870.7497 
777 871.1137However, when they have flyers in they hand, and I told them, you know, /?/ hey just- just give it to that person, yeah give it to that person.877.3690 
779 878.0541They loved it.878.8236 
780ROC_int_01878.8744<laugh>879.2517
781ROC_se0_ag1_m_03879.2871You know what I'm saying? [They loved] it.881.0166
782ROC_int_01880.3059[Yeah.]880.5777
783ROC_se0_ag1_m_03881.4563And now every day is like, when we gonna pass out flyers again?884.7306
784ROC_int_01884.7500Mm-hm.885.1872
785ROC_se0_ag1_m_03885.1495And885.4928
786 885.9076my only answer is, I hope we don't have to.888.4099
787ROC_int_01888.7360Mm.889.0339
788ROC_se0_ag1_m_03889.0463You know what I'm saying? That's- it's- it's deep.891.0908
790 891.2716It's really deep,892.1791 
792 892.3764but yeah, that-893.0980 
794 894.1451the- where- where I'm living at, it really- this one is really reminding me of where I used to be899.1858 
796 899.3306on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ m- where I- where I was growing up.901.7875 
798 902.4040Cause I know every one of the-904.2333 
800 904.8718uh,905.4580 
802 905.8190every one of the people that907.1409 
804 907.6468my kids come across.908.9051 
806 909.6042You know, I know their parents, I know911.8645 
808 912.6966a little bit about them.913.9419 
810 914.1062You know what I'm saying, so it's like it's a community base where I'm at.917.4485 
812 917.8886[<laugh>]918.7090 
813ROC_int_01918.5075[Yeah], that's great.919.2586
814ROC_se0_ag1_m_03919.2659And that makes it awesome. That makes- that makes it easy922.1765
816 922.8101for sit- certain situations, you know. Even if the kids fight or whatever,926.4884 
818 927.0328you know what I'm saying.927.9215 
820 929.1709The parents can stand right next to each other.931.0723 
822 931.9068Oh, he hit you, hit him back.933.4706 
824 933.7120<laugh> You know,935.0774 
826 935.3715just regular- regular stuff that helps a kid grow, you know what I'm saying? And939.9167 
828 940.4347it's- it's dope941.3764 
830 941.7735that parents is on one accord943.2672 
832 943.4137doing that.944.1734 
834 945.1409It- it's f- it's- it's great.946.9722 
836 947.0979[<laugh>]947.8252 
837ROC_int_01947.5499[Mm-hm.]947.9565
838ROC_se0_ag1_m_03948.1686It's very great, so, it's a- it's a different dynamic for me now.951.7373
840 952.4963I'm just looking at everything differently.954.2980 
842 954.8939[It's- it's-] it's weird.956.2385 
843ROC_int_01955.0312[Yeah.]955.3619
844ROC_se0_ag1_m_03956.8356It's weird957.4722
846 958.0235putting all that stuff together,959.3210 
848 959.4971but it's a eye opener960.9146 
850 961.8211at the same time,962.9059 
852 963.2247you know.963.7631 
854 965.8241So I can't be afraid of weirdness. [<laugh>]968.6522 
855ROC_int_01968.4993[Yes],969.0812
856ROC_se0_ag1_m_03969.1257You [can't be afraid] of weirdness, it's okay though.971.5869
857ROC_int_01969.2561[definitely.]969.9688
858ROC_se0_ag1_m_03971.7028<laugh>972.4590
859ROC_int_01972.5930No, I completely agree.974.0640
861 974.4281Um,974.9397 
863 975.1950I wanted to ask you-976.8170 
864ROC_se0_ag1_m_03976.8371[Mm-hm.]977.3015
865ROC_int_01977.0202[you said] you're engaged.978.3203
866ROC_se0_ag1_m_03978.2967[Yes.]979.0015
867ROC_int_01978.6871[How'd you] meet your [fiancee?]980.6986
868ROC_se0_ag1_m_03979.9977[Oh], um,981.4574
869 982.0547well, I met her, uh, through984.6799
871 985.0180a job.985.7687 
873 986.1006We both worked at the same job987.5881 
875 987.8632for a while.988.4274 
877 988.9776Um,989.7203 
879 989.8609we-990.5229 
881 991.2415I was a992.0366 
883 992.3630artist,993.0452 
885 993.5580and994.2247 
887 994.3839she loves music, so at the time, she was actually,997.6790 
889 998.2654um, trying to999.7576 
891 999.9348manage a little group.1001.4807 
893 1002.0102Um,1002.7157 
895 1003.3014and1004.0347 
897 1004.8694she loves music to the point where she went and bought1007.5039 
899 1008.4545a-1008.5355 
901 1008.6821a whole bunch of studio equipment, don't know how to work it,1012.0109 
903 1012.6497don't know nothing about it.1014.1663 
905 1014.5965But she purchased it, so1016.7009 
907 1016.8988there can be a outlet to make music.1018.9106 
909 1019.4835You know, that type of dedication.1021.2515 
911 1021.4045And, um,1022.1133 
913 1022.2811we would just-1022.8636 
915 1023.0738you know, one day1023.9022 
917 1024.4477we started talking and, you know,1026.6984 
919 1027.3773I would say talking about plans. She's a challenger.1029.6675 
921 1030.0549Her name is /RD-NAME-3/.1030.8381 
923 1030.9362<laugh> She's- she's a challenger.1032.6673 
925 1033.1991Um, so, you know,1034.6103 
927 1036.0955She said, you need to stop playing, and you need to1038.3647 
929 1038.5727start doing these shows with us.1040.2540 
931 1041.0688So, I1041.4161 
933 1041.6174did1042.0419 
935 1042.5385w- we started doing more shows and more shows.1045.2190 
937 1046.0944Um,1046.8035 
939 1047.6309and it was real deep.1048.6467 
941 1048.7755It was very very deep, because while we was talking,1051.6397 
943 1053.5562it was like1054.1131 
945 1056.6281she would allow me to1058.8366 
947 1060.2029focus on my artistry, while she focused on the business part.1063.8720 
949 1064.3213Cause with1064.8647 
951 1065.0680most people in the music industry,1067.7298 
953 1068.1860and a lot of people would say it,1069.5121 
955 1071.0825when you're not able to focus solely on1073.7081 
957 1074.1884the artistry,1074.9898 
959 1075.6339getting into the business will make you lose1077.9901 
961 1078.3023the love for the artistry,1079.7535 
963 1080.2546you know.1080.7067 
964ROC_int_011080.8038Mm-hm.1081.2057
965ROC_se0_ag1_m_031081.2429And I was doing a lot of things in my head,1084.6189
967 1084.9187and trying to get myself out there,1087.0403 
969 1087.3015mixing stuff, trying to know the business, even though you must know the business.1090.9593 
971 1091.2785You know what I mean, you can't let it really like1093.4798 
973 1094.1181consume1094.9812 
975 1095.1029your whole outlook on how you do your music.1097.9189 
977 1098.5382You know, you gotta- that has to be authentic still.1101.0318 
979 1102.2513But,1102.6331 
981 1102.8115we was just talking and, um,1104.6970 
983 1106.7032everything just fell into line, like everything just-1109.5856 
985 1110.3109just1110.8450 
987 1111.8909became-1112.8920 
989 1113.9604I don't know, everything happens for a reason.1115.7649 
991 1116.0639After doing1116.8884 
993 1117.3071countless amount of shows, like, uh, d- /just/ back to back shows. I would say like two thousand-1123.0431 
995 1123.4000two thousand and fourteen,1124.8629 
997 1125.9307I went from,1127.2083 
999 1128.6492mm, people not really knowing who I am,1131.3830 
1001 1132.3838you know, performing at /RD-WORK-5/1134.8881 
1003 1135.0735<laugh> on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Street,1136.4075 
1005 1136.8887you know, would perform in there.1138.7942 
1007 1139.5309And by the end of that year,1141.2908 
1009 1141.6264coming into two thousand and fifteen,1143.9334 
1011 1145.3184I got1145.6740 
1013 1146.4721to the Roc Awards,1147.5074 
1014ROC_int_011147.8060Mm.1148.1653
1015ROC_se0_ag1_m_031148.1984and was able to perform1149.4788
1017 1149.5686at the Roc Awards.1150.5622 
1019 1151.1767And that was with1151.8608 
1021 1152.3877my brother-in-law1153.3125 
1023 1153.4254<laugh>1154.1945 
1025 1154.6128who1155.0181 
1027 1155.4342/RD-NAME-3/ had under her roof,1156.8553 
1029 1157.1189you know what I'm saying, and,1158.4779 
1031 1158.9523uh, good friend name, uh, /RD-NAME-2/.1161.3817 
1033 1161.8795/?/ we call him /RD-NAME-2/. <laugh>1163.7124 
1035 1164.0373He's a singer. Um,1165.4014 
1037 1165.8789my brother-in-law, his- /RD-NAME-1/,1167.6092 
1039 1167.9551he's a singer too, but he's a rapper and a singer, it's weird.1171.1698 
1041 1171.9196But, yeah, they- they know this new style of music.1174.5949 
1042ROC_int_011174.7252[Yeah.]1175.4214
1043ROC_se0_ag1_m_031174.9935[They- they the] one that broke me into this new style of music.1177.4824
1044 1177.9302Um, but1178.7043
1046 1179.6592everything fell into line. What they had going was,1182.7084 
1048 1183.1320it was just /RD-NAME-1/ and /RD-NAME-2/,1184.9004 
1050 1185.1726and /RD-NAME-3/ was their manager.1187.2882 
1052 1187.9609Um,1188.8655 
1054 1190.0086basically,1190.8906 
1056 1191.3473there was a group called /RD-WORK-3/,1193.2287 
1058 1193.4178/RD-WORK-3/.1194.4381 
1060 1195.1493Um,1195.9621 
1062 1196.9028and it just- it- it fit so perfectly because1199.6684 
1064 1202.1512what1202.5266 
1066 1202.8778I would say a label,1203.8814 
1068 1204.0894it's kind of not a label, it's more of a family,1206.1815 
1070 1206.6564cause it's family oriented.1207.9148 
1072 1208.4443Um,1209.0167 
1074 1209.1443my older cousin, his name is-1210.8047 
1076 1211.1629his1211.4435 
1078 1211.5642artist name is /RD-NAME-1/.1212.6076 
1080 1212.9734/RD-NAME-7/.1214.2755 
1082 1215.0962Um,1215.7710 
1084 1217.1845he has a older brother that passed away.1219.4974 
1086 1219.9559His nickname was /RD-NAME-3/,1221.2200 
1088 1221.5668but1221.9049 
1090 1222.3307his real name was /RD-NAME-2/.1223.6292 
1092 1225.2090So,1225.7050 
1094 1225.9784uh, /RD-NAME-3/ had a lot of-1228.4048 
1096 1229.1517he had kids.1230.1303 
1098 1230.6228You know what I'm saying, he has1232.0185 
1100 1232.2301a lot of things that he wanted to do before he passed.1235.3644 
1102 1236.0082So basically, /RD-NAME-3/ entertainment is to1239.6763 
1104 1240.7262show1241.6327 
1106 1242.7079family and to show1244.2047 
1108 1244.4175basically his kids that1245.9367 
1110 1246.5716there is another route,1247.8244 
1112 1248.2664you know what I'm saying.1249.2278 
1114 1249.5439And mind you, his k- his- his daughter is an extremely talented1254.7645 
1116 1255.1339dancer,1255.8430 
1118 1256.2977choreographer. Like, she is awesome.1258.5731 
1120 1259.4935Awesome.1259.9031 
1122 1260.5629You know, so it's like having a-1262.2289 
1124 1262.3613trying to build a avenue where1264.0086 
1126 1264.5310they can do what they really feel like doing.1267.2024 
1128 1267.6326You know what I mean, they can do what,1269.3889 
1130 1270.0252you know, necessarily /RD-NAME-3/ didn't get to do,1272.7494 
1132 1273.5357you know.1274.0605 
1134 1274.3252And1274.9163 
1136 1275.3387it's weird. When /RD-NAME-3/ passed,1277.2117 
1138 1277.6585that's when I started writing.1278.8464 
1140 1279.5003So that's why this is like,1280.8172 
1142 1281.4626really, really deep for me,1282.8932 
1144 1283.0776actually1283.7649 
1146 1283.9776saying /RD-NAME-3/ ENT.1285.4554 
1148 1285.5877That's-1285.9305 
1150 1286.0179that's-1286.4008 
1152 1287.0915that's actually my blood cousin.1288.6823 
1154 1289.4535On top of that,1290.3657 
1156 1290.5406I'm representing my family.1292.0581 
1158 1292.8689So,1293.3582 
1160 1293.7192when I got with /RD-NAME-3/,1294.8570 
1162 1295.5533and I seen what they had,1296.8120 
1164 1297.0183and how much talent that was,1298.8114 
1166 1299.1470and then we started making music together,1301.3733 
1168 1301.6999and that started being a whole different dynamic,1303.9076 
1170 1305.7190the family just got1306.6249 
1172 1306.7490bigger.1307.1343 
1173ROC_int_011307.2791Mm-hm.1307.6904
1174ROC_se0_ag1_m_031307.6705<laugh> [The family] just got bigger. So like,1310.0628
1175ROC_int_011308.2813[Yeah.]1308.7021
1176ROC_se0_ag1_m_031312.0122a lot of great things happened1314.0450
1178 1314.7173because of it,1315.3934 
1180 1315.6050you know.1316.2095 
1182 1316.4427A lot of great things, like1318.5180 
1184 1318.9368it's- it's-1319.5734 
1186 1319.8946it's almost hard to speak on how many things happened just because of it.1324.3472 
1187ROC_int_011324.5948[Hm.]1324.8336
1188ROC_se0_ag1_m_031324.7302[But],1325.1424
1189 1325.8360it's beautiful- it was beautiful how things come together like that,1328.7412
1191 1329.0012you know.1329.4265 
1193 1330.2958So now, yeah1331.1373 
1195 1331.6841it's /RD-NAME-3/1332.4326 
1197 1333.0240/RD-WORK-3/.1333.6395 
1198ROC_int_011334.1359Love it.1334.7410
1199ROC_se0_ag1_m_031334.9429And we're under1335.9439
1201 1336.2499/RD-WORK-4/ music.1337.2427 
1203 1338.3678Yep, /RD-WORK-4/ music, that's what-1339.9015 
1205 1340.0091my cousin /RD-NAME-1/,1340.8112 
1207 1340.9412that's1341.1941 
1209 1341.5888him and his crew,1342.4469 
1211 1342.7905you know.1343.2383 
1213 1343.7121They're- they're awesome,1344.8451 
1215 1345.2710all of 'em,1345.8058 
1217 1345.9121musically inclined,1346.9075 
1219 1347.0552it's weird.1347.8559 
1221 1348.0072And I /was/ listening to 'em,1349.2415 
1223 1349.5228they been making music ever since I was like,1351.6726 
1225 1352.2432ten.1352.7893 
1227 1353.8434My1354.0791 
1229 1354.2303cousin is like1354.8550 
1231 1355.3469/?/1355.6103 
1233 1355.9811he's almost thirty.1356.9741 
1235 1357.5756Um,1358.2409 
1237 1358.3545when he was fifteen, that's when he started writing.1360.5498 
1239 1360.9044So,1361.7325 
1241 1362.8942yeah, that's when they really started going to1365.3207 
1243 1366.0933shows. They opened up for Chris Brown, Lil Wayne, a lot of people.1370.5406 
1245 1371.0418And I was still young, <laugh>1373.7378 
1247 1374.0584very young.1375.1413 
1249 1375.6330So1376.0301 
1251 1376.4886ten years later-1377.5665 
1253 1378.2226well, I would say five years later,1379.8223 
1255 1380.2005m- my cousin got me on my first song with him.1382.3163 
1257 1383.1269Realized my voice1384.3088 
1259 1384.5914and my technique,1385.4080 
1261 1385.7768and said, yo you need to keep doing this.1387.6661 
1263 1389.5571Years later,1390.5640 
1265 1390.9005now I really understand music,1392.7812 
1267 1393.1251and I understand1394.1538 
1269 1394.6021how different sounds1396.1007 
1271 1396.4942must1397.2495 
1273 1398.1060be used.1399.1649 
1274ROC_int_011399.4533[Mm-hm.]1399.8363
1275ROC_se0_ag1_m_031399.6639[It's] weird- it's weird, but music is a v- big science.1404.0256
1276 1404.4653It's a-1405.1070
1278 1405.2536it's- it's a1406.0053 
1280 1406.2038crazy [science.]1407.8123 
1281ROC_int_011407.5571[Mm-hm.]1408.1622
1282ROC_se0_ag1_m_031408.2098I mean, words is already a science, but1410.1958
1284 1410.7868music itself, that science is like1413.7044 
1286 1414.3465a puzzle. <laugh>1416.0634 
1288 1416.3660It's a big puzzle, so1418.0774 
1290 1420.3009they already know most of the puzzle pieces and where they supposed to go.1423.6716 
1292 1424.1413I'm just one piece in this puzzle too.1426.7240 
1294 1426.9722So,1427.4650 
1296 1427.9850I just fit1428.6361 
1298 1428.9066where-1429.4910 
1300 1429.6318where it's needed,1430.6610 
1302 1431.2019you know.1431.6343 
1304 1431.8163We have sessions,1432.9355 
1306 1433.5170listening to music,1434.5192 
1308 1434.7367just vibing,1435.9044 
1310 1436.6474create a hook, freestyle the hook.1438.0326 
1312 1440.0796Months later that1441.0251 
1314 1441.7389freestyled hook1442.6616 
1316 1443.2147that people almost forgot about,1444.8173 
1318 1445.5501once that beat comes back on, we all know that hook,1447.9375 
1320 1448.2268and now this a actual song.1449.7795 
1321ROC_int_011449.8293Yeah.1450.2028
1322ROC_se0_ag1_m_031450.6566And getting played on radios.1452.0748
1324 1452.4767So, it's- it's weird. It's weird. It's like every-1455.1769 
1326 1455.9286/hey/.1456.1744 
1328 1456.6282<laugh>1457.7439 
1330 1458.0382And now my brother-in-law's in the loop too, cause he- he- he's a singer and like background vocals is needed.1463.8176 
1332 1464.3235I- it's weird. It's weird.1466.2936 
1334 1466.4428It's very weird. Everything happens for a reason.1469.3157 
1336 1469.8848It- everything-1470.8919 
1338 1471.0385oh my god.1471.9156 
1340 1472.1860It's hard to say. <laugh> It's [har- it's hard] to really explain it,1475.0927 
1341ROC_int_011473.6592[Yeah.]1474.1042
1342ROC_se0_ag1_m_031475.2582but yeah.1475.7796
1344 1476.1479It all started with /RD-NAME-3/.1477.3497 
1345ROC_int_011478.0454[<laugh>]1479.3266
1346ROC_se0_ag1_m_031478.1541[<laugh>]1479.0098
1347 1479.3991It all [started with /RD-NAME-3/, yeah.]1481.5986
1348ROC_int_011480.0300[That's sweet, yeah.]1481.4355
1349 1481.9992Well, so then,1483.2094
1351 1483.9905uh,1484.5117 
1353 1484.6062who are your biggest, I guess, influencers in terms of music, like what artists do you1490.0716 
1354ROC_se0_ag1_m_031490.3293[Oh],1490.9023
1355ROC_int_011490.4402[emanate?]1490.8966
1356ROC_se0_ag1_m_031491.3368everyone.1492.2640
1357ROC_int_011492.4389Yeah?1492.7179
1358ROC_se0_ag1_m_031492.8242Yeah,1493.4841
1360 1493.8056even the whack ones.1494.9095 
1361ROC_int_011495.0584[<laugh>]1495.9211
1362ROC_se0_ag1_m_031495.4389[But],1495.8053
1363 1496.1804you know,1496.8448
1365 1497.1619I wouldn't say they're just wack, they're just different1499.2922 
1367 1499.7964/?/ just /??/1501.0879 
1369 1501.5843better word to say it.1502.7993 
1371 1503.1916They're just different, um,1504.7431 
1373 1504.9653like I said before, I understand music now and what music is supposed to be.1509.7069 
1375 1510.3413You know, even a lot of new artists1512.1643 
1377 1512.2612like Lil Yachty,1513.5933 
1379 1513.7592you know, or- or- or Lil Uzi Vert,1516.5631 
1381 1516.6786whoever that is.1517.5468 
1383 1518.0491Um,1518.6133 
1385 1520.6230beyond actual just having metaphors and word play,1524.3457 
1387 1524.7854I would say nowadays, it really doesn't matter. It d- matters about song structure and what can get caught in a person's head,1531.4188 
1388ROC_int_011531.3857Mm.1531.8317
1389ROC_se0_ag1_m_031532.0204and1532.6602
1391 1533.5430they are great at it.1534.8338 
1393 1535.2178I'm not gonna- I'm not gonna1536.7717 
1395 1536.8969lie about it. They're- they're great at it.1538.8635 
1397 1539.5501Um,1540.1472 
1399 1540.4756b- I study them.1541.6287 
1401 1541.7102They're- they're part of my influences, you know,1544.3104 
1403 1544.4975cause I gotta pick apart, okay what did they do to make it-1547.2063 
1405 1547.6508make their song hot?1548.6883 
1407 1549.2108And how can I not do what they do, yet incorporate a little bit of it just to give the people what they need?1554.4620 
1408ROC_int_011554.5632Mm.1554.9414
1409ROC_se0_ag1_m_031555.0246You know what I'm [saying?]1555.8680
1410ROC_int_011555.5654[Yeah.]1555.9274
1411ROC_se0_ag1_m_031556.5050But as far as hardcore, oh, I got the Nases, the Kool G Raps, the Big Daddy Kanes, Rakims, KRS-One, Slick Rick,1564.1608
1413 1564.4358Papoose, Saigon.1566.0515 
1415 1566.6010It's a whole long list, uh, Jon Connor, Cyhi the Prynce,1570.4472 
1417 1570.7721uh,1571.3922 
1419 1571.5228it's1571.9978 
1421 1572.4895Talib Kweli, Yasiin Bey AKA Mos Def.1575.8610 
1423 1576.2832Uh, it's, uh- it's a long [list, Black] Thought,1579.7923 
1424ROC_int_011578.7192[Mm-hm.]1579.4378
1425ROC_se0_ag1_m_031580.0618uh, Chris Rivers, Big Pun's son.1582.2035
1427 1582.6139Um,1583.3599 
1429 1584.5956yeah, it's a long [list of] people, Skyzoo, WestSide Gunn, Conway.1590.0025 
1430ROC_int_011585.9416[Yeah.]1586.3250
1431ROC_se0_ag1_m_031590.3709It's so many1591.9889
1433 1593.4261artists,1594.2061 
1435 1594.5128you know, that1595.3615 
1437 1595.5629I-1595.9742 
1439 1596.2862I1596.7400 
1441 1597.7255take high consideration of.1599.8455 
1443 1600.3631Like, um, for instance,1601.7945 
1445 1601.9309I was able to-1602.7156 
1447 1603.0735I was able to actually like1604.3112 
1449 1604.5518do a little cipher1605.5148 
1451 1607.2492/with/ my friend /RD-NAME-2/1608.2855 
1453 1608.6585who-1609.1305 
1455 1609.4766Locally I listen to a lot of people locally, like /RD-NAME-2/, Golden,1613.6460 
1457 1614.1708uh, man,1615.3583 
1459 1615.5774Hex,1616.3631 
1461 1616.6610Reaper Boys.1617.6786 
1463 1618.4802I-1618.7087 
1465 1619.0220Tru St- I.Am.Tru.Starr. I-1620.5428 
1467 1620.7425I listen to a lot of people.1621.9152 
1468ROC_int_011622.1989[Mm-hm.]1622.6827
1469ROC_se0_ag1_m_031622.4229[<ts>]1622.4762
1471 1622.6583And1623.2767 
1472 1623.9008uh, at my friend's album release party, he had brought Skyzoo1627.6278
1474 1627.8349and he had brought uh, Chri-1629.3146 
1476 1629.5131Chris Rivers, Big Pun's son.1630.9160 
1478 1631.3908You know, I was able to1632.2370 
1480 1632.6530actually communicate with him.1634.2367 
1482 1634.7123And which was1635.5638 
1484 1635.6760enlightening1636.3704 
1486 1636.9653cause,1637.5279 
1488 1638.5092especially with s-1639.4017 
1490 1639.5494talking to Skyzoo, cause it's like-1641.0938 
1492 1641.5973and I'm seeing him1642.6174 
1494 1644.6701coming from Brooklyn1645.7904 
1496 1647.2937to Rochester1648.2421 
1498 1649.2934just to perform.1650.2389 
1499ROC_int_011650.5762Mm.1650.7831
1500ROC_se0_ag1_m_031650.7661You know what I'm saying, handling his business, /still/ talking like he has to.1654.1315
1501 1654.6630And, you know, he knows that some people didn't get to perform, cause a lot of things happened that night.1659.8015
1503 1660.5304Uh,1661.0787 
1505 1661.4097me and my team was one of the people that couldn't perform,1663.9081 
1507 1664.1552however,1664.8276 
1509 1665.3968when-1666.0482 
1511 1666.9850when I was told that Skyzoo, Skyzoo cut ten minutes off of his actual thirty minute set1671.4611 
1513 1673.0450just so people can have a cipher.1674.7523 
1515 1675.3385And it was1676.1232 
1517 1676.5264him there, it was Westside Gunn, Conway,1679.5394 
1519 1679.9533Chris Rivers1680.8232 
1521 1681.1588all still there1682.2556 
1523 1683.2247watching1684.0529 
1525 1685.1544local talent,1685.9760 
1527 1686.5963just1687.0123 
1529 1687.7970kill verses.1688.5156 
1531 1688.8371You know what I mean, like1689.8009 
1533 1690.8093I did a verse,1691.7737 
1535 1692.5706and as soon as I got off the microphone,1694.5957 
1537 1694.7820like1695.0213 
1539 1695.1643I just see1695.7901 
1541 1696.3792a row of rap geniuses salute me.1699.0659 
1543 1699.8459That is amazing.1700.7689 
1545 1700.9461You know what I'm saying, [that's what] I- that's what I live for.1703.4379 
1546ROC_int_011701.5915[Yeah.]1702.0418
1547ROC_se0_ag1_m_031703.8028I want-1704.4073
1549 1705.1229I want to-1706.2064 
1551 1707.4923I want to be able to1708.7876 
1553 1709.7010spark1710.3618 
1555 1710.6132something in somebody else's head,1712.3616 
1557 1712.5956to make them want to write again.1714.3278 
1559 1714.8858You know,1715.3117 
1561 1715.4727like, uh, recently, I did a song with, uh,1718.3549 
1563 1718.5103/RD-NAME-4/.1719.4733 
1565 1720.2061And, you know,1721.3653 
1567 1721.8826it's pretty deep, because /RD-NAME-2/1723.7267 
1569 1724.4995he was actually around me when I was a kid.1726.7025 
1571 1727.4258You know,1727.9208 
1573 1728.1418h- h-1728.6394 
1575 1728.7375him and my aunty.1729.6493 
1577 1730.0771Cool peoples.1730.8529 
1579 1731.1791You know, they grew up together.1732.2498 
1581 1733.2119So,1733.6574 
1583 1733.9474from him to see me1735.2924 
1585 1735.7273in a car seat1736.5574 
1587 1738.2617to like, twenty-four, twenty-five years later,1741.1151 
1589 1741.6137being in his studio1742.8418 
1591 1744.0572saying words that makes him want to rap again.1747.3432 
1593 1748.4494That is awesome.1749.3004 
1595 1749.8838You know what I'm saying, [that's- that's] what I want to do.1752.4544 
1596ROC_int_011750.8178[Mm-hm.]1751.2347
1597ROC_se0_ag1_m_031752.9225So I just-1753.5650
1599 1753.6324that- and that's a legend in my eyes,1755.3500 
1601 1755.5036you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I just wanna be able to1758.0063 
1603 1759.9733influence1760.8716 
1605 1761.2025anybody, new people1762.6125 
1607 1763.2167or people that's been doing this for years, cause1765.3907 
1609 1766.1701they influence me.1767.2901 
1611 1767.5447If I can give that influence back,1769.1168 
1613 1770.0959then,1770.5002 
1615 1770.6933it's all going in a three sixty.1772.2428 
1617 1772.8196We can all1773.5843 
1619 1774.1385work with each other after that.1775.4851 
1620ROC_int_011775.5015[Mm-hm.]1776.0288
1621ROC_se0_ag1_m_031775.9676[You] know, everything is reciprocated.1777.8434
1622 1778.3610So1778.6872
1624 1779.2829that's what-1780.2010 
1626 1781.2763that's- that's my-1782.4211 
1628 1783.0137that's my i-1783.6474 
1630 1783.7792those is my influences,1785.2687 
1632 1786.3513and that's where I want my influences1788.5378 
1634 1788.6619to be at.1789.3574 
1636 1789.9814I wanna be able to- I want to get to that point where fina- you know, where1793.3959 
1638 1793.5704fans is calling,1794.6410 
1640 1795.0625a little chat line saying, oh my god, /RD-NAME-5/, you're awesome. [Your words changed] my life.1801.0374 
1641ROC_int_011799.2678[<laugh>]1799.9578
1642ROC_se0_ag1_m_031801.6669I want to- I want to get to that point,1803.0414
1644 1803.1903you know what I'm saying.1804.0113 
1646 1804.5453But,1804.8105 
1648 1804.9382I don't want- I want respect first.1806.4330 
1650 1806.8644I don't want no fame.1807.9987 
1652 1808.3736I don't like- I don't like famous.1810.0420 
1654 1810.7512You know, famous is- that's a beast.1812.6374 
1656 1812.8876Even though1813.5687 
1658 1813.8759when you're-1814.8460 
1660 1816.3162when you're attacking the profession1818.3027 
1662 1818.8603and you really grind hard to do what you do,1821.2100 
1664 1821.8680sometimes spotlight will come.1823.5737 
1666 1823.9898And I'm not /??/ hide that.1825.2926 
1668 1825.7681If the spotlight do come to me,1827.2829 
1670 1827.7394I will handle it accordingly.1829.2434 
1672 1829.4077But I just want respect.1830.6894 
1673ROC_int_011831.4647[Mm-hm.]1832.0809
1674ROC_se0_ag1_m_031831.9285[And] just,1832.5820
1675 1833.5571some people like lyrics still. <laugh>1835.7183
1677 1836.0209Some people like lyrics still, [so],1837.6992 
1678ROC_int_011837.3871[Mm-hm.]1837.8788
1679ROC_se0_ag1_m_031838.2901you know, I wanna-1839.1179
1681 1839.2423I wanna meet the people halfway,1840.6945 
1683 1840.7672give 'em something bouncy.1841.9457 
1685 1842.8203I just realized myself, I'm too deep.1844.8431 
1687 1845.8798That was one of the reasons why I had made a name change.1848.3617 
1689 1848.8628Cause I-1849.7288 
1691 1851.8514technically speaking,1852.8158 
1693 1854.3174the average listener1855.3439 
1695 1857.3408has issues with attention.1858.8631 
1697 1860.8297So, a attention span1862.4362 
1699 1862.7263of /??/1863.4213 
1701 1863.5574average person is less than thirty seconds.1865.6573 
1703 1866.4941Right?1866.8203 
1705 1867.6418If you don't do something /that you have/1869.3065 
1707 1869.5110to catch them,1870.3242 
1709 1871.1724they're going to press the skip button.1872.7820 
1711 1873.8839Some people don't like to be1875.2604 
1713 1875.4637tooken to a deep place1876.9304 
1715 1877.5365all the time.1878.3041 
1717 1878.9983I get it,1879.4639 
1719 1879.6199okay.1880.1675 
1721 1881.0193So now,1881.6370 
1723 1881.7292I'm tryna incorporate this fun style1883.8103 
1725 1884.3232with saying little bit of messages1886.1929 
1727 1886.9954that you don't unders- that you don't get1889.1476 
1729 1889.3604yet.1889.7803 
1730ROC_int_011890.2866<laugh>1891.0131
1731ROC_se0_ag1_m_031891.0291Until you actually go through the lyrics in your head, and it's like, woah, he really said that. It didn't sound like he meant /like/1897.0543
1732ROC_int_011897.3189[Mm-hm.]1898.0227
1733ROC_se0_ag1_m_031897.5400[that way.]1898.0442
1734 1898.7654But,1899.1530
1736 1899.3445oh, wow, that was very knowledgeable.1901.4033 
1738 1902.1128How did he do that on a party record?1903.9901 
1740 1904.4750You know,1904.8451 
1742 1905.0368things like that,1905.7800 
1744 1905.8675like I want to be kind of like how-1907.6331 
1746 1908.0884how-1908.4207 
1748 1908.6843Chance the Rapper and1909.8841 
1750 1910.5708Kendrick Lamar and J. Cole, how1912.6983 
1752 1913.0889they present1913.8434 
1754 1914.1932their messages.1915.1785 
1756 1915.6280Like songs like Love Yours,1917.4401 
1758 1918.0560the deepest song in the world,1919.8221 
1760 1920.7416because those words are true.1922.4742 
1762 1923.1534There's no such thing as a life that's better than yours.1925.8552 
1764 1926.7156You won't be happy until you love what you got.1929.2736 
1766 1929.5903Because there's always gonna be something greater.1931.9036 
1768 1932.7652There's gonna be a house bigger than yours. There's always gonna be a woman that's badder than the one you got.1937.3395 
1770 1937.6508It's always gonna be1938.8409 
1772 1939.5665somebody with more money than you.1941.3374 
1774 1942.0353However,1942.9187 
1776 1943.7347none of that matters1945.1344 
1778 1945.5807if you are happy where you're at.1947.2737 
1780 1948.0465You know,1948.5473 
1782 1948.7664that's-1949.2544 
1784 1949.7536oh my god.1950.4461 
1786 1951.2144He just made it super catchy.1952.5522 
1788 1953.4252You know what I'm saying?1954.3573 
1790 1954.9235And that resonated with people.1956.3209 
1792 1956.8527That's the type of thing I wanna do.1958.1473 
1794 1958.5101I wanna do that.1959.4438 
1796 1959.8480That is awesome.1961.0369 
1798 1961.8741Chance the Rapper saying I have angels.1963.8927 
1800 1965.3989Whew.1965.7061 
1802 1966.0938That's it.1966.4625 
1804 1966.8153<laugh> That's it.1967.9119 
1806 1969.1647I got angels.1970.1598 
1808 1970.8197That' it.1971.4650 
1810 1971.6541You know what I'm saying, like that is-1973.2378 
1812 1974.6351oh, that- d-1975.7467 
1814 1975.9778I could talk about music all day,1977.3681 
1816 1977.6967so it's like,1978.2869 
1818 1978.4501yeah, that's what the type of influence I want.1980.8102 
1820 1980.9780That's the type of impact that I want.1983.0088 
1821ROC_int_011983.2027[Mm.]1983.3847
1822ROC_se0_ag1_m_031983.2618[You] know what I'm saying, that's what-1984.7481
1823 1985.4108that's what I want people to see me as, see me as a voice.1988.9985
1825 1989.1944You know, the voice of the voiceless,1991.3111 
1826ROC_int_011991.6437Mm.1991.9103
1827ROC_se0_ag1_m_031992.3847so I can speak for those,1993.8896
1829 1993.9505you know,1994.4233 
1831 1995.3273that1995.7338 
1833 1996.0695are unable to,1997.1383 
1835 1997.8049or that's too afraid to1999.3366 
1837 1999.7577or2000.2636 
1839 2000.7132that has2001.8402 
1841 2002.5770the ability to speak to people, yet they're a little scared,2006.2581 
1843 2006.8331you know what I'm saying?2007.7197 
1845 2008.9302If I can just2009.6629 
1847 2010.0636speak for them2011.0424 
1849 2011.4620I may be able2012.4786 
1851 2014.2528to push someone2015.3190 
1853 2015.7197enough to for they can follow they dream the way they need to.2018.4880 
1855 2019.4195That's all I want.2020.1830 
1857 2020.3461Everybody need to follow they dreams.2022.1966 
1858ROC_int_012022.3171Mm-hm.2022.7753
1859ROC_se0_ag1_m_032022.9065It's- it's- it's about- it's about2024.5789
1861 2025.1127doing what you love to do,2026.2570 
1863 2027.0524not doing something2028.2156 
1865 2029.2174that'll just get you by.2030.4253 
1867 2030.7438[<laugh>]2032.0070 
1868ROC_int_012031.1774[<laugh>]2031.9432
1869ROC_se0_ag1_m_032032.4609Uh, yeah that's it.2034.1415
1870ROC_int_012034.3504[Yeah.]2034.7114
1871ROC_se0_ag1_m_032034.3740[That's it.]2034.8983
1872 2035.5415That's all. I'm-2036.4143
1874 2036.9567I'm a knowledgeable person,2038.2301 
1876 2038.6121you know.2039.1046 
1878 2039.5750I get all deep and whatnot.2040.8353 
1880 2042.8681You know,2043.2215 
1882 2043.3980I can have a whole conversation about the sky being red,2046.0478 
1884 2046.8948and by the end of the conversation, I can almost convince you that the sky is red,2050.2726 
1886 2050.5838<laugh> you know.2052.0265 
1888 2052.4380But that's just it.2053.3459 
1890 2053.4514That's just it. I just like-2054.5632 
1892 2054.7622I like- I-2055.2807 
1894 2055.4543now I like-2056.1258 
1896 2057.9193I study2058.6572 
1898 2059.0543so much to the point where2060.7255 
1900 2061.1372I don't even study the music no more.2062.9667 
1902 2063.4016Life is music now.2064.6028 
1904 2064.9929It's like2065.4065 
1906 2067.1780technically speaking,2068.0820 
1908 2068.4072driving here,2069.1646 
1910 2069.5503looking at how people interact with each other,2072.2378 
1912 2073.1412being at a stoplight hearing conversations2075.5711 
1914 2076.1152that's happening2076.8858 
1916 2077.2569at a corner store or whatever,2078.4340 
1918 2078.6117you know what I'm saying?2079.4249 
1920 2079.8952Or going- going into a store,2081.8387 
1922 2082.1512you know what I mean, and just walking by hearing how2084.7650 
1924 2085.7321one person acts2086.9042 
1926 2087.0507towards another person or how, uh, this child acts towards their mother.2090.7937 
1928 2091.1365You know,2091.6021 
1930 2092.0347or how these two kids playing when they around each other.2094.9260 
1932 2095.2522Like I have to put all of that in perspective2097.7109 
1934 2098.1411because2098.8413 
1936 2099.6104there's gonna be one day2100.9945 
1938 2101.5145that I'm gonna have to explain2103.0443 
1940 2103.4272that,2103.8522 
1942 2104.6209you know?2105.0511 
1944 2105.3624Explain2106.0538 
1946 2108.0162what-2108.4219 
1948 2110.4696Like,2110.7391 
1950 2111.3304perfect example, if I wanted to make a song about the neighborhood2114.1244 
1952 2114.8079and what the neighborhood should be,2116.2924 
1954 2116.9211I'm gonna use references on how I grew up,2119.0985 
1956 2119.9495you know what I'm saying?2120.7587 
1957ROC_int_012120.7374Mm-hm.2121.1121
1958ROC_se0_ag1_m_032121.1294I'm gonna2121.6683
1960 2122.5405okay,2123.0511 
1962 2123.4196make a metaphor about playing curve ball.2125.4625 
1964 2126.3305Or make a metaphor about playing freeze tag.2128.3916 
1966 2128.9469Or make a metaphor2130.0750 
1968 2130.3428about2130.8078 
1970 2131.7249two different streets coming to one playground just to play football.2134.8715 
1972 2135.4983You know, things like that.2136.8030 
1974 2137.0702Like that's2137.9258 
1976 2139.0065what's gonna2139.4438 
1978 2139.6754capture people. That's the thing that's like-2141.7961 
1980 2143.8975that's relatable.2144.8239 
1982 2144.9734If it's relatable,2145.9769 
1984 2146.1789and if it can touch they heart,2147.4057 
1986 2149.4295then it's meant to stay in they heart.2151.0254 
1988 2151.2972[<laugh>]2152.1174 
1989ROC_int_012151.8882[Mm-hm.]2152.3916
1990ROC_se0_ag1_m_032152.5453It's meant to stay in they heart,2153.8381
1992 2154.0585you know.2154.4414 
1994 2155.0985Oh that's cool.2155.6564 
1996 2155.9879I was looking at that the whole time.2157.6801 
1998 2158.2339I [did not-]2158.7728 
1999ROC_int_012158.4253[I didn't] even see that.2159.6781
2000ROC_se0_ag1_m_032160.7844That [is awesome.]2161.6067
2001ROC_int_012161.0259[That's pretty] cool.2162.0760
2002ROC_se0_ag1_m_032162.2625[<laugh>]2163.2405
2003ROC_int_012162.9934[<laugh>]2163.4022
2004ROC_se0_ag1_m_032163.8243I was just staring at that map layout.2165.5262
2006 2167.3821[But yeah.]2167.8116 
2007ROC_int_012167.4365[Um],2167.7673
2008 2168.0606I wanted to ask some questions, turn it a little more to2171.7640
2010 2171.8928specific questions about Rochester.2173.6728 
2011ROC_se0_ag1_m_032173.7162Oh yeah let's do it.2174.4669
2012ROC_int_012174.5852Yeah, so2175.6187
2014 2176.3507what are your favorite activities, I guess, here to do? What do [you- what are your favorite] parts of this place?2181.3464 
2015ROC_se0_ag1_m_032179.4365[Um,]2180.1054
2016 2181.7440my favorite parts of this place, um,2183.6491
2018 2184.6395I go to a lot of,2186.3432 
2020 2186.4437uh-2187.1976 
2022 2189.7838let's just say,2190.5402 
2024 2190.7246um,2191.2710 
2026 2191.7272a lot of festivals, a lot of2193.5779 
2028 2194.1481things that uplift the kids, you [know, or uplift] people, or2197.8738 
2029ROC_int_012196.4213[Mm-hm.]2196.6747
2030ROC_se0_ag1_m_032198.1763help black businesses or2200.0082
2032 2200.9020<clears throat>2201.3110 
2034 2201.4978people that's just trying to get their foot in the door,2203.7334 
2036 2203.8761you know, of what their dream is.2206.1887 
2038 2206.6478You know,2207.0121 
2040 2207.2567places like that, like-2208.3152 
2042 2208.5189like Juneteenth2209.6894 
2044 2209.9447is awesome.2210.6089 
2046 2210.8197<laugh>2211.4173 
2048 2211.8215Or- or let's just say, um,2213.9516 
2050 2214.7695how can I put it?2215.4696 
2052 2217.8877Like poetry [events.]2219.1314 
2053ROC_int_012219.0750[Mm-hm.]2219.5413
2054ROC_se0_ag1_m_032219.4505[Um,]2220.2589
2055 2220.4055you know, my auntie is a poet, my2222.4006
2057 2222.7033mother is a poet.2223.6820 
2059 2224.3892Um,2225.0875 
2061 2225.5923so it's like2226.2443 
2063 2226.5823I go to those events.2227.6838 
2065 2228.2827To me, I'm a poet.2229.2374 
2067 2229.3143I just speak in rap form too much.2231.1723 
2069 2231.7679Um, but2232.5196 
2071 2234.5363that's /one/ place that I can go to2236.3611 
2073 2236.5715to breathe.2237.1885 
2075 2237.4110I call it breathing.2238.2691 
2077 2238.7796Cause I don't have to care2240.2134 
2079 2240.5907about being too deep.2241.7691 
2081 2242.4415You know, I can- I know2243.9310 
2083 2244.5787what I will say will resonate with somebody2247.1460 
2085 2247.6728in this atmosphere.2248.8126 
2087 2249.3472And that's what I like,2250.1390 
2089 2250.3187I like good vibes.2251.6476 
2091 2251.7298Good vibes is awesome.2253.1907 
2093 2253.4118So I want2254.0008 
2095 2254.5109I- I always like to2256.1249 
2097 2256.2505put myself in,2257.1959 
2099 2257.8456uh, places where2259.4328 
2101 2260.8717people matter2261.6845 
2102ROC_int_012261.9655Mm.2262.2062
2103ROC_se0_ag1_m_032263.1118and people matters to people.2265.0132
2105 2265.4747You know, (laughing) that- that's- that's where-2267.4370 
2107 2267.9027that's where-2268.5542 
2109 2269.7205I would say that's where my heart lies in Rochester.2271.8245 
2111 2272.5431Cause to me that's making Rochester better.2274.3636 
2112ROC_int_012274.5243Mm.2274.8293
2113ROC_se0_ag1_m_032275.3587That's making Rochester more2276.7679
2115 2277.3778like this,2278.1153 
2117 2278.6117instead of divided into sections.2280.2719 
2118ROC_int_012280.3305Yeah.2280.8080
2119ROC_se0_ag1_m_032280.8080[<laugh>]2281.5530
2120ROC_int_012281.4806[Well], on that topic, I was gonna ask, I always ask the [reversed.]2284.9067
2121ROC_se0_ag1_m_032284.8726[Mm-hm.]2285.3402
2122ROC_int_012285.1679[What do you] dislike about this place? What would you like to see improved?2288.3711
2123ROC_se0_ag1_m_032289.8512Support.2290.5414
2124ROC_int_012291.5409Mm.2291.8205
2125ROC_se0_ag1_m_032292.3511And I'm saying that from a artist's standpoint.2294.1805
2127 2294.7318Um, you know,2295.7860 
2129 2296.7461uh,2297.4529 
2131 2300.7932a lot of Rochester are followers.2303.3439 
2133 2303.9587Rochesterians, they just-2305.5617 
2135 2307.1818a lot of them lead, but2308.3159 
2137 2308.8052most2309.5427 
2139 2310.8593of2311.4435 
2141 2311.8104the people that2312.6358 
2143 2313.3227don't lead, they just blindly follow.2315.7318 
2145 2317.0886Now2317.5034 
2147 2317.6417I understand half of it, especially from a artist's standpoint.2320.9942 
2149 2321.3724You know, people will wanna see a artist2323.2677 
2151 2324.0708go out there2325.0144 
2153 2325.3181and get2325.7436 
2155 2325.8535what they need,2326.5601 
2157 2327.0194and once they go- once the people see that they're going out to get it,2330.3545 
2159 2331.2984oh okay he's on his grind. Okay I can like his stuff now.2334.2488 
2161 2334.5560You know, I understand that point.2335.9849 
2163 2336.4464But, you know,2337.3086 
2165 2337.5698with Rochester it's almost like,2339.7878 
2167 2340.4694um,2341.1387 
2169 2341.7293you know, they'll su- /??/ they'll support others2344.7040 
2171 2345.1872very fast,2346.2688 
2173 2346.7757you know.2347.3644 
2175 2347.6785I mean,2348.2552 
2177 2349.6865I know some people that would go and buy a Lil Wayne album before they go and buy a local album2354.8491 
2179 2355.5456from someone in their town,2356.7344 
2181 2357.6360you know.2358.0397 
2183 2358.3073And that's one of the things that I wish2360.9499 
2185 2362.1870could change.2363.1895 
2186ROC_int_012363.3145[Mm-hm.]2363.7462
2187ROC_se0_ag1_m_032363.4693[Like], the mindset of Rochester,2365.6452
2188 2366.7805just that following mindset instead of leading by example.2370.0559
2190 2370.4569You know, like now,2372.0974 
2192 2373.0256it's getting to the point where radio is actually playing local artists more.2376.5815 
2194 2377.1346DKX, uh, WAYO Radio,2379.6969 
2196 2380.2148um,2381.1288 
2198 2382.5283uh, one double O nine,2384.3673 
2200 2384.4855like2384.7486 
2202 2384.8391they're-2385.3904 
2204 2385.6480point nine, they are2386.6552 
2206 2386.7832all playing local talent now.2389.2955 
2208 2389.7025You know, and that's what's-2390.9204 
2210 2391.8807that's what's helping Rochester out a little bit more.2394.6211 
2212 2394.8473Okay, now2395.8278 
2214 2396.6443local2397.2770 
2216 2397.4756acts are being heard2398.9293 
2218 2399.4966by the people that2400.4076 
2220 2400.5459can't- that- that can listen2402.1953 
2222 2402.5636willingly now.2403.3574 
2224 2404.3457Now it's to the point where2405.5860 
2226 2405.7586getting 'em to come to these shows,2408.0286 
2228 2408.5403you know, instead of focusing on the next Gucci concert or the next Jeezy concert.2413.1410 
2230 2413.7745And get2414.1405 
2232 2414.7983those same people2416.0547 
2234 2417.1365to come to a local event,2418.6635 
2236 2419.5587you know, and support2420.6349 
2238 2421.7080the people that's trying to get on that level of the Fabolouses and the2425.3726 
2240 2425.6563young Jeezys and the Gucci Manes,2428.1240 
2242 2428.4033or- You know what I mean, we're all trying to make it to that-2430.9563 
2244 2431.7264to that spot.2432.4695 
2246 2433.2920You know, and it's just-2434.4936 
2248 2434.8907But2435.0864 
2250 2435.7810I guess it's like that with every other-2437.3431 
2252 2437.7662every other town.2438.7243 
2254 2438.8224A lot of artists2439.6635 
2256 2440.6232in a lot of towns don't get the respect from their town until they get respect from other ones. So I ca- I get it a little bit, but2447.1127 
2258 2447.5422I just want the support factor to be there again.2450.0117 
2260 2450.5790You know,2451.1246 
2262 2451.4603and,2451.9592 
2264 2452.8257with the kickball things that's happening right now,2455.1666 
2266 2455.6732that is also helping2457.1375 
2268 2457.4015the community cause it's- you know, it used to be like a east side west side type of war for some reason,2462.5715 
2270 2462.8740and it's been going on ever since my dad was a kid.2465.2305 
2272 2465.6160So,2466.0887 
2274 2466.8450to see2467.5583 
2276 2468.0940people from each side2469.9336 
2278 2470.0801coming together2470.8458 
2280 2472.4172to do something2473.6366 
2282 2474.1765which is also fun,2475.2025 
2284 2475.9390it's positive2476.9283 
2286 2477.2725because there's no drama happening.2479.2523 
2287ROC_int_012479.4344Mm-hm.2480.0576
2288ROC_se0_ag1_m_032480.0739They're all2481.0511
2290 2481.2259cordial.2481.9311 
2292 2482.7381And, you know,2483.5089 
2294 2483.8785yes, it's super competitive and2485.5360 
2296 2486.9924okay,2487.3885 
2298 2487.7888but past that,2488.5213 
2300 2488.6990everybody is having fun.2490.1034 
2302 2490.7389You know what I mean, that's-2491.9118 
2304 2492.0063to me that's support right there.2493.5640 
2306 2494.0041That's the epitome of what support supposed to be.2496.1506 
2308 2496.7366So,2497.0254 
2310 2497.3797that's-2497.7983 
2312 2497.9066you know,2498.2656 
2314 2498.4436I see we're working on it.2499.5451 
2316 2499.9187We're- Rochester is working on getting2501.8935 
2318 2502.3371that2502.7095 
2320 2503.1525one weakness as strength.2504.7295 
2322 2505.4595[<laugh>]2506.3883 
2323ROC_int_012506.2767[Yeah], okay.2507.1513
2324 2507.5432Cool,2507.8714
2326 2508.2329and would you describe Rochester as a diverse city?2511.4489 
2327ROC_se0_ag1_m_032511.6971Uh, very much so.2513.2316
2328ROC_int_012513.3191Okay.2513.6548
2329ROC_se0_ag1_m_032513.7434Very much so. Um,2515.2644
2331 2515.8587at first, uh, growing up I didn't think so.2518.2880 
2333 2518.7990Um,2519.5081 
2335 2519.8187however, um,2521.5517 
2337 2522.4065once I got towards like, uh,2524.5600 
2339 2524.9452colleges and2526.4995 
2341 2526.9526looking at what actually Rochester delivers as far as events wise, and, uh,2532.2073 
2343 2532.5990uh, opportunities that's given,2534.3010 
2345 2534.6752um,2535.2628 
2347 2536.0495I realized Rochester2537.5547 
2349 2537.6623is really big.2538.9943 
2351 2539.4574I mean, it's a small city, but we're really huge.2542.2206 
2353 2542.7410Like, um,2543.8574 
2355 2544.9315how can I say it? For example,2546.4879 
2357 2546.9560it's almost like2547.7416 
2359 2552.5140I never knew2553.5327 
2361 2553.7057how2554.6063 
2363 2556.2302big /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was2557.8474 
2365 2558.0838until the second year I went there.2559.8660 
2366ROC_int_012560.6843Mm.2560.9136
2367ROC_se0_ag1_m_032561.2728And then realized they're like number one in the country,2564.1121
2369 2565.7891and people come2566.8053 
2371 2566.9563from different places just to go there.2569.2127 
2372ROC_int_012569.2233Mm-hm.2569.6733
2373ROC_se0_ag1_m_032569.6475The same for the U of R and the same for RIT.2572.1816
2374 2572.8002You know what I'm saying,2573.7126
2376 2574.0942there's so many2576.1330 
2378 2576.8705different people.2577.8413 
2380 2578.5780I met somebody Hawaiian.2579.9064 
2382 2580.1617I never thought I would meet somebody Hawaiian without going to Hawaii,2583.5324 
2384 2584.0004you know what I'm saying. But2585.0517 
2385ROC_int_012585.1027Mm-hm.2585.4152
2386ROC_se0_ag1_m_032585.4174they came here.2586.2487
2388 2586.8610<laugh>2587.7379 
2390 2588.1075So2588.5377 
2392 2588.7362yeah, this is a very very very diversed-2591.7713 
2394 2592.5037diverse city.2593.4259 
2396 2593.9780You know,2594.7224 
2398 2595.4251d- various nationalities, and every one2598.2568 
2400 2598.7398is cordial with one another, that's the thing.2601.3940 
2402 2601.8990There's-2602.7090 
2404 2603.4815there is not-2604.3238 
2406 2605.0298um,2605.7907 
2408 2608.6258it's very diverse,2609.9251 
2410 2610.3960and it's undivided.2611.5443 
2412 2611.8331I can say that.2612.5847 
2413ROC_int_012612.9440[Mm.]2613.1728
2414ROC_se0_ag1_m_032613.0813[It's] diverse yet undivided.2614.7858
2415 2615.5233Cause2615.9367
2417 2616.0646people is going out of their comfort zones,2618.4405 
2419 2619.2301and they're making these interactions with people that2622.0541 
2421 2622.3900they never thought they would.2623.6513 
2422ROC_int_012623.8272Mm.2624.0259
2423ROC_se0_ag1_m_032623.9897But yet after making those interactions2626.0892
2424 2626.9756they're closer2627.7827
2426 2627.9375with that person.2628.7253 
2428 2629.0061You know, so2629.6153 
2430 2630.0025it's- it's- it's a great thing.2631.5878 
2432 2631.7698It's a great thing, and then knowing different cultures and different people's lives and how2636.2012 
2434 2636.6228they operate, what's important to them, what's priorities,2639.4463 
2436 2639.7334it helps you align your own,2641.5990 
2438 2642.2090you know. So it's- it's-2643.5707 
2440 2644.1341the diversity is awesome.2645.5571 
2441ROC_int_012645.8868[Yeah.]2646.1705
2442ROC_se0_ag1_m_032645.9435[I like] it.2646.4798
2443ROC_int_012646.6432Okay.2646.9623
2444ROC_se0_ag1_m_032646.9159I [like it.]2647.4303
2445ROC_int_012647.1538[<laugh>]2647.7045
2446ROC_se0_ag1_m_032647.5722[<laugh>]2648.3025
2447ROC_int_012648.4255Cool,2648.8348
2449 2648.9577cool.2649.3312 
2451 2649.5983Okay, and, uh, now I wanna ask a few language-related questions [to Rochester.]2654.7199 
2452ROC_se0_ag1_m_032653.8188[Okay.]2654.2895
2453 2654.9183[Okay.]2655.2670
2454ROC_int_012655.0412[So], um,2656.0490
2455 2656.4062<ts>2656.4461
2457 2657.2229do you ever no-2658.8912 
2459 2659.2034do people say to you, for example, if you maybe go outside of Rochester,2663.0638 
2461 2663.4184that maybe you have an accent [/like/ Roches- Rochesterians] sound a certain way?2667.9692 
2462ROC_se0_ag1_m_032665.4563[Oh yes, yes.]2666.4822
2463 2668.2970Um,2668.9042
2465 2669.4505okay, yes, yes. I'm'a- I'm'a break it [down. I'm'a break it down.] I'm'a break it down.2673.5863 
2466ROC_int_012671.9127[Okay, break it down.]2672.8040
2468 2673.5577<laugh>2673.9247 
2469ROC_se0_ag1_m_032674.0354So,2674.6133
2471 2674.6819let's just say2675.5551 
2473 2675.6402remember, I had went to /RD-SCHOOL-7/ University,2678.4773 
2474ROC_int_012678.9650[Mm-hm.]2679.4900
2475ROC_se0_ag1_m_032679.0407[right],2679.3567
2476 2679.8349school down south.2680.8087
2478 2681.3760This is when I first learned what2683.0906 
2480 2683.2781Geechee meant.2684.2315 
2482 2684.9751<laugh>2686.2362 
2483ROC_int_012686.2859[Mm-hm.]2686.8580
2484ROC_se0_ag1_m_032686.6962[So],2687.2172
2485 2688.5843when I went down there,2689.7142
2487 2692.3852I told people I was from Rochester, New York,2694.1782 
2489 2694.3810however when I talk they said that2697.0710 
2491 2697.4912I don't have2698.7443 
2493 2699.0612a strong accent.2700.4472 
2495 2701.5777Like I don't have a New York accent,2703.4289 
2497 2703.6413but I speak in a New York way.2705.6221 
2499 2706.0560It was weird.2706.7859 
2501 2707.3670Um,2708.0711 
2503 2708.3022you know,2708.8529 
2505 2709.1035then after being there- down there for a semester and then coming back up to Rochester,2713.6846 
2507 2714.2162um, you know, it was certain2715.4359 
2509 2715.5895things that was picked up, certain words and everything.2718.3224 
2511 2719.0552Um,2719.6703 
2513 2720.2375and then when I came back2721.5588 
2515 2721.7763here, that's2722.7738 
2517 2722.9076when people said I sound Geechee.2724.6935 
2519 2725.8705<laugh>2727.2055 
2521 2727.6889[<laugh>]2728.8434 
2522ROC_int_012728.5409[What do] you you think they meant by Geechee?2730.3484
2523ROC_se0_ag1_m_032731.3695I mean, Geechee2732.6487
2525 2732.7645is like, basically like-2734.3426 
2527 2735.6132um,2736.6887 
2529 2737.3536like a Southern accent,2738.7222 
2531 2739.5046um,2740.1026 
2533 2740.2964and which2741.0958 
2535 2741.8617a lot of us in Rochester already2744.1171 
2537 2744.3085sound2744.9066 
2539 2745.1264quote unquote Geechee.2746.2941 
2541 2746.7720Because a lot of us was raised by folks that2749.4264 
2543 2750.2684lived down south.2750.9964 
2544ROC_int_012751.3391Mm-hm.2751.7079
2545ROC_se0_ag1_m_032751.8024Like, like I said, my grandmother2753.4516
2547 2754.0411that lives on /RD-ADDRESS-2/, she2755.7999 
2549 2757.1689lived down south. She was born and raised down south.2759.7104 
2551 2760.7126Yet,2761.0884 
2553 2761.4288she started her new family up here.2763.1503 
2555 2763.8935You know, on my mom's side, my g-2766.1217 
2557 2766.2548my great-grandparents,2767.6723 
2559 2768.1454they were from Mississippi.2770.1805 
2561 2771.2376Yet they came up here,2772.6322 
2563 2773.2808you know what I'm saying. And2774.5284 
2565 2775.7056a lot of their mannerisms is the same,2777.9420 
2567 2778.2215you know.2778.6700 
2569 2779.1404One of the things that my grandfather always said, you know, it was beautiful.2783.3227 
2571 2783.9018<laugh>2785.1901 
2573 2785.5706You know, just d- that way,2787.0903 
2575 2787.1908uh, just that way, you know what I'm saying. So like,2789.6239 
2577 2790.7542everybody- a lot of people in Rochester2793.3259 
2579 2793.6218were raised by2794.9100 
2581 2795.3828those that were down south.2796.6643 
2583 2797.3876So Rochesterians, we have2799.5816 
2585 2799.9673a mix of2801.4288 
2587 2802.4705upstate2803.1489 
2589 2804.1677lingo with2805.2455 
2591 2805.5627a little bit of down south2808.6147 
2593 2809.0993words, <laugh>2810.5880 
2594ROC_int_012810.5609Yeah.2810.8957
2595ROC_se0_ag1_m_032810.9064or- or way that we say things.2812.9967
2597 2813.3938Um,2814.0651 
2599 2814.5201and that's the- that's-2815.4507 
2601 2815.6561to me, that's what-2816.4317 
2603 2816.8189that's what s-2817.3134 
2605 2817.4779Geechee is to me.2818.5227 
2607 2818.7037Cause I ain't get it when I first heard it, and [I'm like how do] I sound Geechee? Like, you sound like you from down south now. /unintelligible/ what you- what you doing down there? Like, oh.2827.1122 
2608ROC_int_012820.8868[Yeah. <laugh>]2821.4016
2609ROC_se0_ag1_m_032828.2185I don't know, I still sound like I'm from Rochester, New York to me, but okay,2832.6138
2611 2832.7438I guess.2833.3720 
2613 2833.4784[<laugh>]2834.5306 
2614ROC_int_012834.2919[So] people only said that to you when you came back from North [Carolina?]2838.0216
2615ROC_se0_ag1_m_032837.5441[No, pe- yeah], when I came back from North Carolina, Rochesterians was telling that-2841.5004
2616ROC_int_012841.5559[Mm.]2841.7509
2617ROC_se0_ag1_m_032841.6008[saying] that about me.2842.5563
2618 2842.8634Yet when I came back to North Carolina from Rochester,2845.5982
2620 2845.8917North Carolina people was telling me I was Geechee now.2848.2106 
2622 2849.2132I don't get it.2850.0358 
2624 2850.3549[But it's okay], [yeah it's] alright,2852.4955 
2625ROC_int_012850.4825[/inaudible/]2851.3018
2627 2851.6936[Yeah.]2852.0359 
2628ROC_se0_ag1_m_032852.8480you know.2853.2343
2630 2853.6480Everybody has different-2854.7793 
2632 2855.7001I would say different, uh,2857.7003 
2634 2860.4138phrases, different things that they say,2862.3691 
2636 2862.5251you know.2863.0055 
2638 2863.5104Uh, when I was living in California, I realized2866.1798 
2640 2866.6538California, they just had a elevated slang2869.4068 
2642 2869.9626of New York.2870.9421 
2644 2872.0616You know, if somebody say they wanted to punch somebody, New York people will say, I'll sneak you,2876.1352 
2646 2876.6292like a sneaker.2877.2236 
2647ROC_int_012877.2320[Mm-hm.]2877.6879
2648ROC_se0_ag1_m_032877.3617[You know],2877.8809
2649 2878.4351Cali people say, I sock you.2879.8293
2650ROC_int_012880.2950Yeah.2880.5384
2651ROC_se0_ag1_m_032880.5957A sneaker and a sock, okay,2881.8834
2653 2882.2195so, <laugh> you know what I mean, [so it's a-]2884.0774 
2654ROC_int_012883.7464[It's a garment, /it's a-/]2884.6234
2655ROC_se0_ag1_m_032884.5217[Yeah, yeah it's- it's-] it's- it's-2886.4220
2656ROC_int_012884.9462[/it's/ clothes.]2885.5597
2657ROC_se0_ag1_m_032886.6131I mean, you n-2887.3076
2659 2887.4175you need- you need a sock to fit2888.8941 
2661 2889.4201sneaker, so, I mean, [I understand] it.2891.0242 
2662ROC_int_012890.3718[<laugh>]2890.8233
2663ROC_se0_ag1_m_032891.5017You know, /not/ everybody has their elevated slang,2893.7031
2665 2893.8012so,2894.1102 
2667 2894.1924you know.2894.7139 
2669 2895.8599Hey2896.1480 
2671 2896.4529screw it.2896.8146 
2673 2897.1346<laugh>2897.9066 
2675 2898.3014I guess. I guess.2899.4836 
2677 2899.7389I ca- I can be Geechee.2900.8428 
2678ROC_int_012901.1170[Mm-hm.]2901.7008
2679ROC_se0_ag1_m_032901.5306[I sound] New York when I rap,2902.7933
2680 2902.9777but I can be Geechee.2903.9184
2681ROC_int_012904.3723Ah [okay, so], but people will say you sound New York when you [rap?]2907.7322
2682ROC_se0_ag1_m_032904.6370[/unintelligible/]2905.4234
2684 2907.5554[Mm-hm],2908.1931 
2685ROC_int_012908.1736Ooh, [okay cool.]2909.4780
2686ROC_se0_ag1_m_032908.7610[mm-hm],2909.4386
2687 2909.5260[mm-hm, I sound] New York when I rap.2911.5421
2688ROC_int_012910.0387[/Awesome/.]2910.4819
2689ROC_se0_ag1_m_032911.8819So,2912.3262
2691 2912.7185you know, their /meeting/ meeting2914.2377 
2693 2914.6349the new age halfway I can pull out some Geechee stuff.2918.1387 
2695 2918.4878<laugh> Let's just saying that [that'll get them entertained.]2923.1862 
2696ROC_int_012921.7600[Mm-hm.]2922.3367
2697ROC_se0_ag1_m_032923.3810<laugh>2924.2238
2699 2924.6351Yeah, so,2925.5428 
2701 2926.3787mm,2926.8337 
2703 2928.0893hm.2928.4833 
2705 2929.2452A lot of people I've met as well2930.8715 
2707 2931.8981that have2932.6145 
2709 2932.9526southern slang,2934.2375 
2711 2934.6677I mean,2935.1018 
2713 2935.4162especially on my dad's side.2936.9160 
2715 2937.4227All of the older people there,2939.7060 
2717 2940.1445that- that- that you can hear2941.8381 
2719 2942.5520Mississippi in their [voice. <laugh>]2945.2569 
2720ROC_int_012944.1649[Mm-hm.]2944.7984
2721ROC_se0_ag1_m_032945.5500You can hear it. The way they talk,2947.2909
2723 2947.4564I mean, they may talk fast or2949.3383 
2725 2949.6693words may be s-2950.7069 
2727 2951.6660s- words may sound connected to each other when they not,2954.4038 
2729 2954.7331or- (laughing)2955.5673 
2731 2955.8526or they just, you know, got a slight mumble with it.2958.6251 
2733 2958.9900<laugh> It- it's- it's weird. It's different ways-2961.3584 
2735 2961.7130it's different ways people are Geechee.2963.1596 
2737 2963.4219[<laugh>]2964.4412 
2738ROC_int_012963.6182[Mm.]2964.0543
2739ROC_se0_ag1_m_032964.7867But, you know,2965.4769
2741 2965.6423it's just all how people talk,2967.1776 
2743 2967.3052how- how people enunciate they words and everything,2969.8923 
2745 2970.4615you know.2970.8784 
2747 2971.0427It's a- it's a different bracket.2972.5219 
2749 2972.8821I mean, I guess can pretend Geechee too.2975.0048 
2751 2975.4988So, [<laugh>]2976.8205 
2753 2977.1160it's- it'll work out.2978.0331 
2755 2978.1584It'll work out.2978.8625 
2757 2979.1289But yeah, that's what people-2980.1363 
2759 2981.0605I guess that's what people think about, uh,2983.0181 
2761 2985.6367<ts>2985.7289 
2763 2986.3694those that2986.9445 
2765 2987.0605speak2987.4434 
2767 2988.4480like they're from down south, but they was raised up here.2990.7200 
2768ROC_int_012991.0982[Yeah.]2991.4622
2769ROC_se0_ag1_m_032991.3251[It's] the Geechee.2992.2592
2770 2993.1362It's like you're trying to be like them. No, no.2995.9021
2772 2996.3796This is who I was2997.3818 
2774 2997.7979the whole time.2998.3136 
2776 2998.7598<laugh>2999.7308 
2777ROC_int_012999.7011Right.2999.9067
2778ROC_se0_ag1_m_032999.8926[<laugh>]3000.8924
2779ROC_int_013000.7340[Right], I hear you.3001.4598
2780ROC_se0_ag1_m_033001.4596Yeah, [mm,]3002.7161
2781ROC_int_013002.2455[Yeah.]3002.7294
2782ROC_se0_ag1_m_033003.0462[so.]3003.5510
2783ROC_int_013003.3315[Okay], well3004.2781
2784 3004.9210that's all the questions that I have.3006.5444
2785ROC_se0_ag1_m_033006.6991[Mm, okay.]3007.6060
2786ROC_int_013006.7150[Um],3007.1670
2787 3007.6941[but do you] consent still to [me using the interview, or]3011.1733
2788ROC_se0_ag1_m_033007.7431[Okay.]3008.1898
2790 3009.7628[Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.]3011.4526 
2791ROC_int_013011.4398we good? [Okay, thank you. Great.]3013.0940
2792ROC_se0_ag1_m_033011.8444[Do that.]3012.3920
2794 3012.5056[Do that.]3013.2335 
2795 3013.4514[Yes.]3013.9927
2796ROC_int_013013.6239[So] I just need you to fill out a couple things for me, and3016.4628
2797ROC_se0_ag1_m_033016.6050[Alright.] Hey,3018.2407
2798ROC_int_013016.8296[yeah.]3017.2456
2799 3018.5456[Thank you.]3019.0275
2800ROC_se0_ag1_m_033018.6394[hold on.]3019.3962