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1ROC_int_010.0854Uh, we were talking about how you had to Charlotte Beach.3.5905
2ROC_se0_ag3_f_023.6010Oh, yeah. [Uh-huh.]4.5425
3ROC_int_014.0223[/Yes/.]4.4213
4ROC_se0_ag3_f_025.6174And,5.9698
6 6.2061another thing is,7.2073 
8 8.5718I'd always have a lunch.9.9150 
10 11.0287Um.11.5923 
12 11.8086she'd- she'd make me a lunch 13.5403 
14 13.7798c-13.8875 
16 14.1850called spice ham.15.4122 
18 16.7874And, uh,17.4507 
20 18.1140when it was time to eat,19.4108 
22 19.5439it was always full of sand (laughing) [<laugh>]23.3919 
23ROC_int_0121.5937[<laugh>]23.2255
24ROC_se0_ag3_f_0223.7235It was so full of sand, I couldn't eat it. <laugh>26.8638
26 27.3862So,27.9583 
28 29.0216I would- I would29.8644 
30 30.3743manage somehow.31.6177 
32 31.8164I don't know what I did, maybe she gave me some money too. I don't know. But,35.6252 
34 36.4058a hot dog probably was a nickel back then. [I don't know.] But.39.5466 
35ROC_int_0138.9871[/?/]39.2627
36 39.7625<laugh>40.1849
37ROC_se0_ag3_f_0240.1849Yeah, but,40.7589
38 41.2641that was, that was what I experienced in43.6885
40 43.9548discrimination.44.9879 
42 45.6629And my own father,46.8830 
44 47.5763because.48.0952 
46 49.1329Oh, I'm going backwards now.50.7216 
48 51.1336I got to tell you what happened.52.6580 
50 53.8288He, um,54.8023 
52 56.0376He had a heart attack.57.4151 
54 58.2140He call me59.0936 
56 59.2910on,59.7180 
58 60.1267this in two thousand and uh62.4478 
60 63.4993two thousand and64.6520 
62 66.9616<exhales>67.3358 
64 67.6436seven, I think.68.6491 
66 69.1865Hadn't been that long ago.70.5501 
68 71.2941He was ninety three years old.72.9379 
70 73.2962He was still going to the U of R.75.3372 
72 76.0925He was the head of the economics department at that time.78.9439 
74 79.8012He would still go there once a week.81.5461 
76 82.4276So, he had a heart attack.83.9343 
78 84.3128He was in the hospital for a while.86.2482 
80 86.6936When he came home87.8348 
82 88.4363he call and ask me to come and see him.90.6816 
84 91.4805So, I said, well,92.4310 
86 92.9776okay, I'm getting ready to go to church now. Can I come95.7854 
88 96.9026this afternoon?97.8841 
90 98.3892I said probably maybe one thirty,100.3544 
92 100.5175 two o'clock.101.2635 
94 101.7112He said, Okay. So,103.0681 
96 103.6951<ts>103.7502 
98 103.9131I stopped at 104.7328 
100 105.1209Wegman's105.7912 
102 106.4846and I bought the little fruit tarts cause he likes tea.109.7953 
104 110.3120So, I said, well, we'll ha-111.6527 
106 112.1394we'll have a little fruit tart with the tea.114.0519 
108 114.8189So,115.3008 
110 116.0403I was going up the walk.117.5418 
112 117.9275He lived on Dorchester Road in um Beachwood over there off121.7062 
114 122.9017Wenton123.3336 
116 123.4857[North Wenton.]124.1117 
117ROC_int_01123.5945[Mm-Hm.]124.0459
118ROC_se0_ag3_f_02125.6226So I was walking up the walk127.2776
120 127.7366and I said,128.3814 
122 129.2438I'm tired of this man playing these games. I said132.3931 
124 132.8138I'm going to 133.1103 
126 133.2151tell him133.9740 
128 134.4751all my life, I've been told he's my father137.2487 
130 137.8266and I'm'a ask him what he139.5398 
132 139.9525have to say about that.141.2469 
134 141.9529<ts>142.0800 
136 142.4095So,142.9084 
138 143.4308I got there, I rang the bell,145.0606 
140 145.6725and he said, It's open.147.2680 
142 147.6116<ts>147.7011 
144 147.9118I though that was odd cause it was cold.150.1098 
146 151.1172So,151.6230 
148 152.2537I went in153.0741 
150 153.5245and he was sitting in a chair.155.0707 
152 155.8448And he looked so bad.157.2144 
154 157.8310Oh, he looked so.158.9136 
156 159.7099He was160.0841 
158 160.2065pale.160.7007 
160 161.2838He was a big tall man.162.9702 
162 163.5953And um.164.2307 
164 164.9226<ts>165.0168 
166 165.4875I told him, I said, um,166.9324 
168 167.6345How you doing? Or something I said.169.3383 
170 170.3522And he- he couldn't talk good.172.2607 
172 172.6133So.172.9992 
174 174.3808I said, I told him I brought him something. And he said, well, I'll make us some tea. He got up. I said, I could do it.179.8733 
176 180.2257He said, let me do it.181.2376 
178 181.6848I wanna do it. I said okay.183.3086 
180 183.9346<ts>184.0334 
182 184.2829So, I thought I saw him trying to go in there and make the tea.188.1092 
184 188.7928And I said, I'm not gonna say anything to him.191.5462 
186 192.2047What would I accomplish?193.4802 
188 194.4198He's so195.0417 
190 195.2129sick, I cannot say something197.4940 
192 197.9147that might upset him.199.1478 
194 200.6229So, I didn't.201.3755 
196 202.2326So, we202.8293 
198 203.1211we ate the tart, we sipped the tea.205.2062 
200 205.9357And he told me, um,207.6772 
202 209.0364he ha-209.6388 
204 210.1660um,210.6602 
206 211.7051<ts>211.7616 
208 211.9969All his212.6276 
210 212.8159papers,213.5063 
212 214.4900and215.0554 
214 215.2201all his215.8451 
216 215.9863work. He's very well known in Japan.218.7151 
218 219.1821Because he educated so many Japanese students222.3545 
220 222.7301in this country.223.6291 
222 224.7661And,225.1724 
224 225.3030they have a floor 226.4820 
226 226.6514on a, in a library.228.1764 
228 228.3647 I mean a museum.229.4509 
230 230.0251And it's all of his231.3898 
232 231.6063work.232.1149 
234 233.4231And he got- he got all his235.6624 
236 235.9731work there and blah, blah. He told me where238.5665 
238 239.4278uh, something else was. But mostly everything was242.5690 
240 242.9310in Japan.243.9183 
242 244.8832Except what245.7540 
244 246.2293was at the U of R.247.4343 
246 248.6486And,249.1334 
248 250.0548he said, um,251.4292 
250 252.9589<ts>253.0860 
252 253.7073What did he say?254.6957 
254 255.8300Oh. He said,256.6490 
256 257.1997he told /RD-NAME-2/,258.5588 
258 258.8271his younger son,260.0979 
260 260.7372he said, I told /RD-NAME-2/ about you and I gave him your information,264.6950 
262 265.2157so he can contact you.266.9138 
264 267.3327<ts>267.3845 
266 267.7375And I said Oh, okay.269.0271 
268 269.5449So, he said /RD-NAME-2/270.9027 
270 271.0533uh, doesn't come to the house.272.8385 
272 273.5327He hasn't been to this house in years cause276.0884 
274 276.4508it had a lot of bad memories for him278.5548 
276 279.7369So I was getting kind of leery. You know. So,281.8935 
278 283.0441he said, he lives284.2949 
280 284.8265in the South Wedge.286.3611 
282 286.9839He say,287.5555 
284 287.9229/RD-NAME-1/ bought him a house, set up a trust fund.290.9067 
286 292.0852No. She bought him a house.293.5558 
288 293.9382And she set up a trust fund. That was his296.8582 
290 297.6913 sister.298.3031 
292 300.8296Oh. And I had-301.7474 
294 303.8983Yeah.304.2372 
296 304.4490I had been invited to the W-306.1565 
298 306.8766the we-307.3285 
300 307.4697the repass.308.4722 
302 309.1547After /RD-NAME-1/ died.310.6091 
304 311.6771Who was my brother, but /RD-NAME-1/ didn't know.313.8222 
306 314.9236/RD-NAME-1/ died of315.6814 
308 315.9591cancer.316.5710 
309ROC_int_01316.8965Hm317.0189
310ROC_se0_ag3_f_02317.9461And,318.3969
312 318.9994/RD-NAME-1/ died of cancer.320.4541 
314 321.5664But, I wasn't invited to323.3794 
316 323.9624/RD-NAME-1/'s funeral.325.1721 
318 325.8540She ha- 326.2270 
320 326.3612they had her funeral in Boston.328.0695 
322 329.2136But, I was invited to his wife's funeral.331.6599 
324 332.7295/RD-NAME-1/ was his wife.334.1274 
326 334.8240But /RD-NAME-1/335.6174 
328 335.7926died of caner.336.9024 
330 337.3063Same cancer I had.338.7309 
332 339.8888And /RD-NAME-1/ died of breast cancer.342.0727 
334 343.0988Now, /RD-NAME-2/ is still living. He's the youngest one345.8508 
336 347.2878So, I asked,348.3845 
338 348.6151um,349.1281 
340 349.5894<ts> Oh, after350.4602 
342 351.2415I left,351.8769 
344 353.1006I told him to call me w-354.4410 
346 354.8457if he needed something.356.0601 
348 357.2274So,357.7074 
350 358.1969he said he would.359.1995 
352 360.0250And about two weeks later, I'm reading the paper. He had died.363.1764 
353ROC_int_01364.5272Hm.364.7390
354ROC_se0_ag3_f_02364.8802That quick.365.6369
356 366.3147Just like two weeks later.367.8081 
358 368.3164I said, boy am I glad I didn't say anything370.9004 
360 371.4645to him.371.9681 
362 373.0318If he got upset, I didn't do it. <laughs>375.4888 
364 376.1419So,376.6032 
366 376.8997after about a year,378.1658 
368 378.4953I didn't hear from /RD-NAME-2/.379.9210 
370 380.6176So, I looked up381.6567 
372 382.6404uh, the information on him.384.4336 
374 385.8409And I called him.386.8482 
376 387.4072And we set up a time to meet.389.3464 
378 390.5042And,390.8996 
380 391.0408we met over at Jine's.392.9376 
382 393.5165I asked him, did he have a favorite place?395.9865 
384 396.5654And he said Jine's.398.0992 
386 398.6782On uh, Park Avenue.400.2691 
387ROC_int_01400.2785Mm-hm.400.7444
388ROC_se0_ag3_f_02400.8715So, we met at-401.8071
390 402.0749we were going to meet at Jine's.403.6466 
392 404.0710So, I got there first.405.5829 
394 406.1407And I was talking to a man408.2013 
396 408.8168that was waiting in line.410.3088 
398 411.1219And /RD-NAME-2/ walked in,412.5819 
400 412.9015and he gave that man that nastiest look. It scared me.417.4211 
402 418.0237I didn't really know it was /RD-NAME-2/419.7790 
404 420.3733I thought,420.8719 
406 421.4320this man and this422.3648 
408 422.7885guy got something going. You know?424.7580 
410 425.1064I stepped out of the way.426.3992 
412 427.1327But,427.5554 
414 428.1530It was /RD-NAME-2/ and I didn't know it.429.7935 
416 430.7276And he's my brother and I didn't know it.432.8422 
418 433.7733And the way he looked.435.1615 
420 435.8911I didn't tell him437.1003 
422 437.3122That I might be his sister (laughing) [<laughing>]439.6111 
423ROC_int_01439.1098[Mh-hm.]439.6205
424ROC_se0_ag3_f_02440.2569So,440.7618
426 441.0207Um.441.4490 
428 441.7644<clicks>441.8020 
430 442.2829I said, are you443.1546 
432 443.4436/RD-NAME-2/?443.9990 
434 444.4122Cause nobody else came in.446.0888 
436 446.7535And he said. yeah. Yeah. Are you /RD-NAME-1/? and I said, yeah.449.4852 
438 450.0807So, he said, pleased to meet you. And then we got a seat453.4360 
440 453.9334They k- they took us to a table.455.6194 
442 456.7080And,457.1209 
444 457.5364I- so you like Jine's? He said459.3741 
446 459.9492oh, I've never been here.461.0859 
448 462.1438And I said, oh, okay. So, you know464.4078 
450 464.9067I'm thinking.465.6192 
452 466.4711Well, I done work with-467.4360 
454 468.5373in mental health for thirty-five years. So I know what to say and know- and what to do.473.0825 
456 474.3345So, we-475.1024 
458 475.2766we had475.8791 
460 476.6604lunch.477.2958 
462 477.8559And then, h-478.5807 
464 478.7407Uh, he- he said, um,480.1437 
466 481.8273where'd you get my phone number? And I said, your dad.484.7313 
468 485.3616He said, why?486.2041 
470 486.9546I said, well,487.7327 
472 488.2658he wanted us to be friends.490.1049 
474 491.2336And he said,491.9815 
476 493.2671oh, I don't know you. I said, I know. He said. Bu-496.0016 
478 496.5194But I know your dad.497.7196 
480 498.5939So,499.1399 
482 499.5777we agreed to meet.500.7214 
484 501.6674Oh, and then I found out that503.2113 
486 503.8514he's uh504.8999 
488 505.7918patient506.2695 
490 506.5272out pa-507.0426 
492 507.5776/?/507.8736 
494 509.3553And he- from Strong.510.7286 
496 511.2369But, he gets all his treatments at513.5762 
498 514.5552Strong Ties.515.7263 
500 516.7710<ts>516.8321 
502 517.4924So, I thought to myself, oh man.520.1769 
504 521.1229This is running in the family.522.7609 
506 523.8340So,524.3188 
508 525.8438we m- we agreed to meet another time.528.2384 
510 528.7374He had.529.1563 
512 529.5078He was gonna walk me to my car.531.3858 
514 532.1330His car was in the same533.6674 
516 534.0487parking lot.534.7594 
518 535.6302And, so536.3691 
520 537.3373we agreed538.1045 
522 538.4481to meet again.539.3278 
524 539.5019So, we met again in the same place.541.5635 
526 542.3390So, he said, um.543.8216 
528 544.4947You know Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/?545.7467 
530 546.5139And I said, yeah, I know her.547.8506 
532 548.7772And, uh,549.2992 
534 549.5722he said, well she wants to know,551.3857 
536 551.6211how do you know my552.7507 
538 553.2948dad?553.7951 
540 554.8719And I said,555.6155 
542 555.7756we're from the same556.8940 
544 557.1387home town.557.9845 
546 559.1842And she wants to know why he wants561.5549 
548 562.5339you-562.9340 
550 563.7106Why did he want you to contact me?565.9923 
552 566.9925And I said,567.7550 
554 567.8562cause he wanted us to be friends.570.0298 
556 570.3710cause we're from-571.1123 
558 571.8531cause I know your family.573.4463 
560 574.1523And he-574.8084 
562 575.1943your family knows my family.577.2488 
564 577.8013So, we left it at that.579.1333 
566 579.6816So, we's going to the581.1001 
568 581.9361parking lot.582.7799 
570 583.6083<ts>583.6977 
572 584.0790He said, uh585.1563 
574 585.9211I got this new car.587.5449 
576 588.8064I,589.1588 
578 589.4600uh,589.9848 
580 590.1637but I'm afraid to drive it.591.8293 
582 592.0670I said, why?593.0931 
584 593.6950He said,594.3516 
586 594.4598uh,594.8011 
588 594.9258cause it's got air conditioning.596.7050 
590 597.3822And I know it's gonna598.4897 
592 598.9839burn up a lot of gas.600.3836 
594 601.0284I said, no, that's not602.3699 
596 602.8376the way is is now. They make cars better now.605.4028 
598 605.8947They don't burn anymore gas than a607.8921 
600 608.2475car with no air conditioning609.7837 
602 610.4723He said, really? I said, yeah. Just enjoy your car.613.6888 
604 615.0438So,615.6698 
606 616.6247every now and then, he would call me.618.6298 
608 619.9901But, when I s-620.7102 
610 620.8738would see that621.5987 
612 621.7681caller ID,623.0852 
614 623.8947I wouldn't answer.624.8361 
616 626.2105I said, I'm not getting in t- I'm staying away from this.629.2730 
618 630.2567So,630.8121 
620 631.3211one day, I got a letter from him and it said,634.4385 
622 636.1235could you send me your637.5862 
624 638.5841address and phone number?640.3020 
626 640.7633I lost it.641.7470 
628 642.8907So, I sent him644.3811 
630 644.8470my phone number,645.8778 
632 646.0520but I didn't send him my address.647.8923 
634 649.1558And I didn't hear from him anymore.651.0777 
636 652.2546So, one day,653.1016 
638 653.4216I was bringing someone from the655.4727 
640 655.6698health656.0534 
642 656.6596place on South Clinton, which is Highland,659.4932 
644 660.0627part of Highland hospital,661.4972 
646 662.3395and the traffic663.2528 
648 663.5679diverted me a different way.665.5353 
650 666.3354So, I found myself on /RD-ADDRESS-3/ Street,668.9147 
652 669.4555which is the street he lived on.671.2953 
654 672.6743And I said, oh, I said674.1897 
656 674.8439he lived at forty-one.676.2512 
658 677.1126So when I got to forty-one,678.9331 
660 679.2959some men was out,680.2608 
662 680.6420they had these saw horses and they was cutting683.1776 
664 683.8031plywood or whatever.685.1534 
666 686.2806And, I said, um,687.3302 
668 688.5492I said /RD-NAME-5/690.0930 
670 690.3240live here?690.9547 
672 691.9195And, they said, no.693.1621 
674 693.5292I said, oh, okay, uh,695.0683 
676 695.5531he used to live here didn't he?696.9547 
678 697.5029He said,698.0655 
680 698.6875we don't know, some-699.7646 
682 699.8728they got somebody that bought the house and hired them to do the work.703.2760 
684 704.4310So, I said, oh, okay.705.8618 
686 706.0974Sorry to bother you. No problem, they say.708.2484 
688 708.7883So, when I got to work,710.2097 
690 710.4545I looked it up.711.2828 
692 712.6290And,713.1221 
694 713.5363the house was burned up.715.1130 
696 716.0214Inside,716.6898 
698 717.5700every room was718.5243 
700 718.8067burned up and water damage.720.7036 
702 721.1648It was a mess.722.6259 
704 723.2378I said,723.7085 
706 723.8971thank God I didn't tell him where I live.726.7049 
708 727.3192He could have gone,728.3136 
710 728.5799got sick,729.2341 
712 729.7895and come over here and burn my house or hurt me and my granddaughters.733.7714 
714 734.5888Or something terrible. You know?736.3303 
716 737.1822Said,737.5352 
718 737.6670I'm glad I didn't tell him.738.9614 
720 739.8310So, I don't know where he is,741.9349 
722 742.3397cause he's not in that house. That's the only contact I had with him.745.9592 
724 746.5513His cell phone number is748.0903 
726 749.6011no- no longer.750.8531 
728 751.9398And Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/,753.0360 
730 753.8108she's probably in a nursing home if she's still alive, cause [she's a lot] older than me.758.6388 
731ROC_int_01757.0809[Mm-hm]757.5656
732ROC_se0_ag3_f_02759.3296She was around my dad's age.761.3958
734 762.0265And, I think, t-762.7420 
736 763.2550they had something going, cause he was kind of like a lady's man.766.9769 
738 768.0501And,768.5019 
740 769.6353she- her husband was the director of the psych center.773.1203 
742 773.8084So, that's probably how they met.775.8547 
744 776.5325And, when her husband died,778.0449 
746 779.2554Old /RD-NAME-2/ s-780.1932 
748 780.5886stepped in.781.5676 
750 782.0636Cause he told me she would come to his house every Thursday evening.785.9794 
751ROC_int_01786.2383Mm-hm.786.6138
752ROC_se0_ag3_f_02786.7382So, he didn't787.6128
754 787.7384go into details.788.9890 
756 790.0293I- I know I told you a lot and I skipped all around [everything, but.]794.3013 
757ROC_int_01793.2639[I don't-]793.5764
759 793.8096[It'll be fine.]794.7226 
760ROC_se0_ag3_f_02794.7226I don't even know if I put that in here about-797.1448
761 797.5507about my dad.798.5059
763 800.2178But he owned the town.801.7384 
765 802.0349No, I didn't put it in here because /RD-NAME-2/ said804.8773 
767 805.5504I might not-806.3929 
769 807.0318you might not need to talk to me,808.7640 
771 809.1547cause I didn't grow up here.810.5460 
773 811.2539So,811.7198 
775 812.5917I thought813.2166 
777 814.0564well, maybe I'll just tell her how I got here. [<laugh>]817.2919 
778ROC_int_01817.1127[Yeah], no. It's- [it's been] really good. And,819.3954
779ROC_se0_ag3_f_02817.9646[So,]818.2705
780 819.5389Mm-hm.819.9069
781ROC_int_01819.9399I have two more questions.821.4507
782ROC_se0_ag3_f_02821.4565[Okay.822.0296
783ROC_int_01821.5911Um.821.9355
784 822.0712But, the- the n-822.9969
786 823.1852next one is about- Y- I feel like you have so much knowledge of how Rochester has looked between828.8268 
788 829.4423you [know, uh]830.7132 
789ROC_se0_ag3_f_02829.8330[Uh.]830.2707
790ROC_int_01831.2780what831.5510
792 831.6686the forties and now, and,834.0173 
794 834.3221what do you think are some of the biggest changes836.7367 
796 837.3203that the community has seen?839.2149 
797ROC_se0_ag3_f_02839.7665Oh.840.3595
799 842.1858The biggest change843.4602 
801 843.5920that I see,844.7225 
803 846.8837is how the-847.7716 
805 847.9975the neighborhoods have changed.849.6626 
807 850.8153And how our people have852.5612 
809 853.3941progressed.854.2234 
811 854.4258I'll use that word.855.5873 
813 856.3921We seem to be doing better858.4674 
815 858.9102than when I was coming up.860.9130 
817 861.9719And,862.4474 
819 862.7334we have our own homes,864.4325 
821 864.5549we have our own business.866.0846 
823 866.6717Our children are868.0552 
825 868.9730more successful.870.2956 
827 870.7072Cause the opportunities seem to be there.872.9820 
829 873.3412Like, when I was in high school, I wasn't prepared876.1920 
831 876.8272for college.877.7301 
833 878.3590I had to take879.2692 
835 879.9072home economics.881.0521 
837 881.5736I can set a table.882.7126 
838ROC_int_01883.7419[Mm-hm.]884.2361
839ROC_se0_ag3_f_02884.0657[Or, I] can have a tea. I can t-885.6801
840 885.9503I can- I can do a tea.887.5071
842 888.1169Those are the things I was taught889.9090 
844 890.4536in high school.891.2645 
846 891.5263And how to sew.892.4448 
848 892.9878Took me a whole year to make a apron.894.8111 
850 895.6878But, that's what they was teaching me897.4031 
852 898.0636So now,898.8758 
854 899.2111young people are better prepared901.0629 
856 901.5289and- like yourself.902.7194 
858 903.1569They're doing better.904.1121 
860 904.2368They're going to college.905.3594 
862 905.8183They're applying, they're getting accepted.907.8161 
864 908.2951Some of 'em909.0904 
866 909.3635get assistance. Some pay their own.911.5051 
868 911.8016S-911.9475 
870 912.6452You know, it's-913.3031 
872 913.9881And the neighborhoods look so much better.916.6438 
874 917.6999So much better.918.7730 
876 919.3818A lot of the old houses and buildings921.7242 
878 922.2090have been torn down923.5493 
880 923.8594and replaced with newer ones.925.6485 
882 926.3888I see926.9993 
884 927.8087apartments,928.7444 
886 928.9421complexes,929.9541 
888 930.3400all over.931.1355 
890 931.9638Um.932.6651 
892 933.9783<ts>934.0677 
894 935.3940Like, hanover houses. There are other937.7991 
896 938.3206projects like that.939.6218 
898 939.9794Shopping malls,941.3445 
900 942.0646strip malls.943.2084 
902 943.6690You know, it's so many945.1794 
904 945.5996changes946.3467 
906 946.7313to make life947.5987 
908 947.7630better948.4103 
910 948.9359in Rochester.949.8945 
912 950.5865That's what I see.951.6642 
914 952.4079I don't know what953.0291 
916 953.1751somebody else see.954.1663 
918 954.6161That's what I see.955.4343 
920 955.7073And it feels good957.0900 
922 957.3384to see that.957.9674 
924 958.5322I just959.1582 
926 959.5136had a friend die Friday night.961.3845 
928 961.9331And,962.3117 
930 962.9495I would take him to964.5275 
932 965.4641get his groceries966.6408 
934 967.0753first of every month.968.2128 
936 968.9131<ts>969.0528 
938 969.4637And,969.9044 
940 970.4695I took him out to Citygate.972.2296 
942 972.4205Oh.972.6532 
944 973.6667because he remembered when it was Iola Sanitarium.976.8555 
946 977.5648So, to see Citygate,979.0992 
948 979.2782oh, that was980.1317 
950 980.8189up his alley.981.6143 
952 982.5495And,982.8663 
954 983.1449I wouldn't take him up here like,985.1588 
956 986.0201what he called, the Ghetto Tops.988.0393 
958 988.6653I'd take him out989.5595 
960 990.0349Henrietta Tops, or-991.7641 
962 992.7739cause he never got out of the city.994.6040 
963ROC_int_01994.7876Mm-hm.995.1485
964ROC_se0_ag3_f_02995.3665He never-996.1737
966 996.2702he never went out of this neighborhood barely.999.1508 
968 1000.5351And he died Friday night.1002.4020 
970 1002.9291And, two weeks ago, he turned sixty.1005.2967 
971ROC_int_011005.9780Mm.1006.3734
972ROC_se0_ag3_f_021007.3318He- his legs,1008.7135
974 1009.1833his knees was bone on bone.1011.4930 
976 1012.5870And,1013.0404 
978 1013.4687they wouldn't1014.1371 
980 1014.3159do surgery1015.6009 
982 1016.0150because1016.5610 
984 1016.8842he was too young.1017.9260 
986 1018.9700But, when he 1019.4737 
988 1019.6031turned sixty,1020.5089 
990 1021.5035he could-1021.8094 
992 1022.1001they would evaluate him.1023.3945 
994 1024.4639And,1024.8724 
996 1025.1407he turned sixty two weeks ago.1027.1575 
998 1027.7259But, he died1028.4272 
999ROC_int_011028.9167[Mm.]1029.1567
1000ROC_se0_ag3_f_021028.9732[Friday.]1029.6074
1001 1030.0616So,1030.4831
1003 1031.2288I-1031.4590 
1005 1032.3768I feel terrible.1033.4507 
1006ROC_int_011034.0665/?/1034.2488
1007ROC_se0_ag3_f_021034.2313He was the best friend,1035.6045
1008 1036.3623I-1036.7671
1010 1037.4926um,1038.0473 
1012 1038.7910<ts>1038.8898 
1014 1039.7581My granddaughter.1040.9985 
1016 1042.3075I have three granddaughters1043.9767 
1018 1044.4321and each one of 'em-1045.6570 
1020 1045.7593One of 'em I raised from an infant.1048.2113 
1022 1048.7746The other two had lived in my house at some time.1051.9839 
1024 1052.3885And, each time,1053.3870 
1026 1053.7307cause he and his mother and his nephews lived across the street.1057.3302 
1028 1058.8881They would help me with the girls.1060.5962 
1030 1060.8681Like,1061.1552 
1032 1061.6566when school was1062.5603 
1034 1063.3058out, they would meet the bus and they would stay1065.6573 
1036 1065.8090at their house until1067.1191 
1038 1067.8965I got home from work.1069.1653 
1040 1069.9410Or,1070.4397 
1042 1071.9553um.1072.5013 
1044 1073.6685He took - he'd take- he's been taking my garbage cans1076.7371 
1046 1077.0440out1077.3921 
1048 1077.5356every week1078.1641 
1050 1078.9531for over thirty [years.]1080.2450 
1051ROC_int_011080.1038[Mm.]1080.3674
1052ROC_se0_ag3_f_021080.9887And,1081.3776
1054 1081.4929the lady down the street that came to tell me he died.1084.4941 
1056 1084.9335She say, he had just taken your garbage can1087.6578 
1058 1087.9246put it in the backyard1089.1912 
1060 1090.1090And, I said, yeah, I notice.1091.4790 
1062 1091.7922I say, well. He do- she say I know, he does that every week.1094.9848 
1064 1095.7262But, he1096.3158 
1066 1096.5558had not just taken that.1098.1515 
1068 1098.2480He died later in the evening.1100.0937 
1069ROC_int_011100.4985Mm-hm.1100.9221
1070ROC_se0_ag3_f_021101.1779So,1101.6839
1072 1101.8957another, you know, I just1103.5619 
1074 1103.9394I don't even know how we got on that.1105.6235 
1076 1106.7625I told you, my mind wander sometime.1108.9595 
1077ROC_int_011109.6508[Still doing fine.]1110.7949
1078ROC_se0_ag3_f_021109.8276[I'm not that crazy] though.1111.0166
1079ROC_int_011111.0966No, you're [not.]1112.0593
1080ROC_se0_ag3_f_021111.8125[But], I still work1113.3411
1081 1114.1220<ts>1114.2314
1083 1114.6025because,1115.1437 
1085 1115.6553I feel like1116.5025 
1087 1118.5159I need to work.1119.6173 
1089 1120.3673And I'm1120.8175 
1091 1120.9681e-1121.1234 
1093 1121.2988I have a good pension and I have social security.1124.2197 
1095 1125.1600But, I reduced1126.0170 
1097 1126.1387both of them by twenty percent.1128.2056 
1099 1128.3853I asked to reduce it.1129.9942 
1101 1130.5383Because,1131.1321 
1103 1132.1385they insist on paying me on my job.1134.5304 
1104ROC_int_011135.0858Mm-hm.1135.3635
1105ROC_se0_ag3_f_021136.0738And,1136.5296
1107 1137.2959I guess technically, I have to. I can't volunteer, so they pay me.1141.6771 
1109 1142.4619But, I was paying like,1143.5351 
1111 1144.1658twenty,1144.9084 
1113 1145.0872thirty thousand1146.2168 
1115 1146.7157I mean hundred dollars1148.0619 
1117 1148.9360every year for income tax.1150.7212 
1119 1151.5020So, now, this1152.6737 
1121 1152.7937past one, I only paid eleven hundred dollars.1155.5125 
1123 1156.1908And,1156.6680 
1125 1157.7415I've had to,1158.6240 
1127 1159.2939um,1159.8666 
1129 1161.4082take my deduction zero1163.2696 
1131 1164.1167plus1164.5722 
1133 1164.7609twenty-five dollars a pay check.1166.7821 
1135 1167.5997And now, it's like1168.8940 
1137 1169.3022zero1170.0095 
1139 1170.2126plus fifty dollars a pay check.1172.1594 
1141 1172.7816So, what I bring home is just a little extra money.1176.0373 
1143 1176.7394I don't live off it. I couldn't live off it.1178.9178 
1145 1179.0484It's not enough.1180.0381 
1147 1180.6634But, it's a good living.1181.9709 
1148ROC_int_011182.1380Mm-hm.1182.3412
1149ROC_se0_ag3_f_021182.3092You know, it's a good living.1183.5876
1150 1184.3219And I was working nine hours a week.1186.4399
1152 1187.2354But they asked if I would like1188.8259 
1154 1188.9877more hours since the twins came to live with me.1191.8747 
1156 1192.6937Cause,1193.0044 
1158 1193.3543they say, well, if they get sick,1194.9145 
1160 1195.5685now, you won't get paid for it.1197.4422 
1162 1198.3657But,1198.7693 
1164 1199.0647or, if you wanna1199.9167 
1166 1200.0599take 'em on a trip,1201.0114 
1168 1201.7967you don't have vacation time.1203.2833 
1170 1203.8882Try working1204.8223 
1172 1205.6224twenty point five hours a week,1207.7753 
1174 1208.1428and we can give you benefits.1209.7266 
1176 1209.9736So, that's what I do.1211.0116 
1177ROC_int_011211.0623Mm-hm.1211.5753
1178ROC_se0_ag3_f_021211.7443<ts>1211.8577
1180 1212.1126Now, I get five hou- five weeks vacation.1214.8371 
1182 1215.5196But, I only work twenty point five hours (laughing) a week.1218.6567 
1183ROC_int_011218.6297[Mm-hm.]1219.0969
1184ROC_se0_ag3_f_021218.9850[I have]1219.2992
1185 1219.5153five weeks [vacation.]1221.0972
1186ROC_int_011220.6783[<laugh>]1221.2008
1187ROC_se0_ag3_f_021221.6368And, I get sick time.1222.8829
1189 1223.7772So,1224.3420 
1191 1225.0369it works out fine.1226.1557 
1192ROC_int_011226.7535Yeah.1227.1300
1193ROC_se0_ag3_f_021227.3701They would pay my1228.4432
1195 1228.6833health insurance, but the state pays it.1230.7971 
1196ROC_int_011230.9722[Right.]1231.3770
1197ROC_se0_ag3_f_021231.0109[So, I] don't pay anything now.1233.0243
1198 1233.6703So, uh.1234.1457
1200 1234.8948I- I'm fortunate1236.0537 
1202 1236.1549that I'm able to work and I think it's1238.4983 
1204 1239.1112I'm healthy because- Well, I did have cancer.1242.0357 
1205ROC_int_011242.4660Mm-hm.1242.7132
1206ROC_se0_ag3_f_021242.7132I had stage three1244.1323
1207 1244.2782invasive1245.1640
1209 1245.3805colon cancer.1246.4292 
1211 1247.3359And, I didn't know it1248.1498 
1213 1248.6900til two weeks1249.5298 
1215 1249.7440afterwards1250.5747 
1217 1251.3170when I went to have the staples removed.1253.7230 
1219 1254.9130And, after1255.8367 
1221 1255.9405they removed the staples, the nurse1257.8509 
1223 1257.9912handed me a1258.9900 
1225 1259.4959referral slip.1260.5408 
1227 1261.3739And, I said, what is this?1262.6530 
1229 1263.0201And she said,1263.7638 
1231 1264.2686oh, that's the Pluta Center. I said, what is that?1266.7432 
1233 1267.0395And I read it. I said, Pluta Cancer Center. Why do I have to go there?1270.4802 
1235 1271.3169She said, you have cancer.1272.7161 
1236ROC_int_011273.2843Mm.1273.6797
1237ROC_se0_ag3_f_021274.4173I said, nobody told me that.1276.0997
1239 1276.9320The tears just rolled down my eyes.1279.3314 
1241 1280.6840And after a minute I got it together.1282.8661 
1243 1283.8575And, uh, I thanked her.1285.2513 
1245 1286.0750She said, when you get home, call them1288.4001 
1247 1288.5478and1288.8944 
1249 1289.6613make an appointment.1290.8017 
1251 1292.0889And, I did. I called and made an appointment to1295.0494 
1253 1295.2541go out there, and I met the doctor.1297.2122 
1255 1298.6186And he gave me, um,1300.1315 
1257 1300.7928a name of a-1301.7244 
1259 1302.5917the surgeon. The same surgeon that1304.4073 
1261 1304.5943did the- removed it.1305.8861 
1263 1306.6293He-1307.0628 
1265 1307.2228uh,1307.7218 
1267 1308.6723/?/ He1309.5762 
1269 1310.6624inserted this1311.7543 
1271 1311.9310Medport in my chest,1313.5878 
1273 1314.1862which is still there.1315.3235 
1274ROC_int_011315.5278[Mm.]1315.8439
1275ROC_se0_ag3_f_021315.7066[And] it's been ten years.1317.1882
1276 1318.1375But he said,1319.0999
1278 1319.4087we can't take it out.1320.6636 
1280 1320.8932Cause I might not be out of the woods.1322.8152 
1282 1323.5275But, he said the farther out I go,1325.7457 
1284 1326.2268the less chance it'll come back.1327.9468 
1285ROC_int_011327.9468Mm-hm.1328.3135
1286ROC_se0_ag3_f_021328.5633And if it comes back, it's probably gonna come back in the same place. It usually comes somewhere else.1333.5702
1288 1334.1601So, I still go1335.3231 
1290 1335.5914to Pluta Center every six weeks.1337.5447 
1292 1338.6649Been ten years. <laugh>1340.3529 
1293ROC_int_011340.4659Wow.1341.1201
1294ROC_se0_ag3_f_021341.3225And I don't mind going.1342.5981
1296 1343.0262<ts>1343.2606 
1298 1343.3928I don't mind going.1344.4483 
1300 1345.3455But the thing is,1346.5412 
1302 1347.7872I went for a1349.0377 
1304 1349.1902colonoscopy.1350.2255 
1306 1351.9268Just a routine.1353.0026 
1308 1354.0144My doctor had1355.3629 
1310 1355.9478a skiing accident 1357.1951 
1312 1358.3683and she hurt her back. So, when it's time for my physical,1361.5836 
1314 1362.3907she wasn't able. And they called and ask would I reschedule.1365.4334 
1316 1366.3127So, I did.1367.1685 
1318 1368.2614And1368.6935 
1320 1369.0133so, when it was time for that1370.8433 
1322 1371.0175appointment,1371.7554 
1324 1372.2812they called again.1373.3567 
1326 1374.1681And she's still not in. Do you mind if another doctor in the office do your physical?1378.9156 
1328 1379.4616And I said, no, I don't mind.1380.8736 
1330 1381.4171So, I went,1382.5215 
1332 1383.8749and, um,1384.7414 
1334 1385.4537the doctor, she did the physical and then she said,1388.4557 
1336 1389.0340let's order some tests. So, she was ordering these different tests.1392.5515 
1338 1393.1993And she said, colonoscopy.1394.8872 
1340 1395.3399I said, I'm not due for that for another two years.1398.0025 
1342 1398.4726She said, well, let's do it anyway.1399.9808 
1344 1400.5127I said, okay.1401.3921 
1346 1402.3295So, she did the colonos-1403.7603 
1348 1403.8968they-1404.0757 
1350 1404.5170she did the referral and I went to get the colonoscopy.1407.6894 
1352 1409.4591And, um,1410.1651 
1354 1410.8182the doctor told me, he said,1412.5833 
1356 1413.5614uh, we're gonna have to do1415.4676 
1358 1415.6700some surgery.1416.7525 
1360 1417.7681We found a mass1419.0671 
1362 1419.1942attached to your large intestine.1421.2605 
1364 1422.4136He said, but, I can't remove it.1424.5281 
1366 1424.6859He said if it was polyps, I can remove it. He said, but it's really big. He said,1429.2190 
1368 1429.8487it would tear the intestines [so],1431.8584 
1369ROC_int_011431.7083[Hm.]1431.9719
1370ROC_se0_ag3_f_021432.2896I'm gonna refer you to a surgeon.1434.2259
1372 1434.9159I said, okay. I never had surgery in my life.1437.6202 
1374 1438.0764Didn't ever have medicine either and [I was] sixty-nine years old.1441.1447 
1375ROC_int_011439.5965[Hm.]1439.8690
1376ROC_se0_ag3_f_021442.1064So,1442.5906
1378 1444.1181I said, well,1444.8399 
1380 1445.3065I don't know any surgeons.1446.7899 
1382 1447.5880He said, well,1448.3507 
1384 1449.3505I had- my wife had a good surgeon,1451.7359 
1386 1452.6764and I'll give you his name. He did.1454.5185 
1388 1455.2669And, I call and made the appointment.1457.3445 
1390 1457.9431They did a1458.8587 
1392 1459.5839biopsy,1460.5140 
1394 1461.5130and they did the l-1462.3598 
1396 1462.5887lab work.1463.5234 
1398 1464.3186And,1464.7785 
1400 1466.3841um, I went on and had the surgery.1468.7578 
1402 1469.9616And,1470.4150 
1404 1472.0128after,1472.7303 
1406 1472.9053um,1473.4830 
1408 1473.8176I found out1474.6319 
1410 1474.9004about the cancer,1476.0514 
1412 1477.6360the nurse practitioner told me1479.7577 
1414 1480.4708that1480.9594 
1416 1481.7186when they1482.2425 
1418 1482.5286removed the mass,1483.8887 
1420 1484.3778and opened it,1485.1961 
1422 1485.5723it was eighteen inches of cancer1487.9387 
1424 1488.3877growing inside that mass.1490.5182 
1425ROC_int_011490.5930Mm.1491.0420
1426ROC_se0_ag3_f_021491.3501That's why it didn't show on the biopsy,1494.2750
1428 1494.8985and that's why it didn't show in the lab work.1497.1802 
1430 1497.7678It was concealed in a mass.1499.9027 
1431ROC_int_011500.1052Hm.1500.3605
1432ROC_se0_ag3_f_021502.0204[So,]1502.4474
1433ROC_int_011502.0204Yeah.1502.2405
1434ROC_se0_ag3_f_021503.1247I tell everybody that story because,1505.5033
1436 1507.3504not all the time1508.8008 
1438 1509.0869it will show.1509.9012 
1440 1510.9405Cause,1511.1958 
1442 1511.4071and- and if I'd've waited another two years,1513.4496 
1444 1514.0922they said I'd've been dead.1515.2652 
1446 1516.3129So, they-1516.9335 
1448 1517.3165Doctor Chang was his name. Vincent Chang.1519.8474 
1450 1520.2546He did the surgery.1521.5128 
1452 1522.0989He-1522.4423 
1454 1522.7284he cut1523.4371 
1456 1525.1220three feet1525.9373 
1458 1526.3303of my1526.9739 
1460 1527.2072large intestine1528.3692 
1462 1528.8337out of my stomach.1530.0375 
1464 1531.2712And, he redirected my bowels so I didn't have to wear the sack.1534.9379 
1465ROC_int_011535.6387Yeah.1536.0217
1466ROC_se0_ag3_f_021536.1405I'm forever grateful to him.1537.6900
1468 1538.9334So, that's- that's my story. I'm been through a lot.1541.8649 
1469ROC_int_011541.9970Mm-hm.1542.5957
1470ROC_se0_ag3_f_021543.1136Three years ago,1544.2801
1472 1544.4650um,1545.0284 
1474 1545.8075my son was scraping paint1547.5506 
1476 1548.6161in the bathroom. He was getting ready to paint1550.7906 
1478 1551.3102the bathroom and he's getting all the old paint.1553.4706 
1480 1554.7757And, uh,1555.3156 
1482 1555.5724I went to1556.1467 
1484 1556.6056Home Depot to, um,1558.2761 
1486 1558.7691<ts>1558.8924 
1488 1559.6319make an exchange.1560.8336 
1490 1561.5381And, I thought, I'm this close to Marshall's. I'm not going right back home. [So, I'm out there in Marshall's and,]1567.2428 
1491ROC_int_011565.1916[Mm-hm. <laugh>]1566.7587
1492ROC_se0_ag3_f_021567.8876everywhere else I wanted to go.1569.6264
1494 1570.2910And, when I got home, I had a note1572.0782 
1496 1572.1926from him and-1573.0285 
1498 1573.1511taped to the1573.9386 
1500 1574.2467bathroom1575.0787 
1502 1575.3994mirror.1575.9370 
1504 1576.5533He said, Ma, he said,1577.9398 
1506 1578.6248I made a mess, but I cleaned it up. He said, I'll be back tomorrow. He said, my new phone number and he put his new phone1585.0582 
1508 1585.5366number.1585.9253 
1510 1587.2291And,1587.6334 
1512 1587.9239so, I said, aw man, I just went up to get him a pie. I said, good thing Gladys was closed.1593.3197 
1514 1593.8721He loves sweet potato pie.1595.3379 
1515ROC_int_011595.4743Hm.1595.7780
1516ROC_se0_ag3_f_021596.2226He likes mine better.1597.5652
1518 1599.4072So,1600.0279 
1520 1600.7762<ts>1600.8378 
1522 1601.5685n- about nine o'clock that night,1603.3204 
1524 1603.7606/RD-NAME-2/ call,1604.6783 
1526 1604.9971the girl that was just here.1606.3793 
1528 1608.1069Sh- that was his fiancee.1609.7664 
1529ROC_int_011610.0041Mm-hm.1610.3650
1530ROC_se0_ag3_f_021610.9567And,1611.4211
1532 1612.0445she was crying. She said, boo-boo's not breathing. I can't get him to breathe.1616.2937 
1534 1616.6553Nine-One-One on the way.1618.2399 
1536 1618.9530And, I said, what?1620.1242 
1538 1621.2155So,1621.8142 
1540 1622.1553I had jumped out the bed,1623.7223 
1542 1624.9338and, I went over there and the street was full. I couldn't get in the street. She lived on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ [Street, off]1631.6704 
1543ROC_int_011630.9683[Mm.]1631.3983
1544ROC_se0_ag3_f_021631.9612Genesee Street.1633.2107
1546 1633.6153<ts>1633.7253 
1548 1634.2359So, I found somebody driveway. I just pulled in they driveway. I didn't know who it was. (laughing)1639.7372 
1550 1640.7890And, I walked down to the house,1643.2532 
1552 1643.3721and I heard somebody say,1644.9202 
1554 1645.4880that's his mother, that's his mother.1647.2531 
1556 1648.0058So, the policeman took me in the backyard.1650.8196 
1558 1651.4535And I said,1652.1930 
1560 1652.5957why are you bringing me here?1654.0876 
1562 1654.8538I wanna see him. And, uh,1656.4957 
1564 1656.7113he said,1657.3716 
1566 1657.7149they're working on him now.1659.0399 
1568 1659.9488And, so, I said, oh okay.1661.6523 
1570 1662.4974So,1663.1137 
1572 1664.4870finally, the medical examiner got there,1667.3415 
1574 1668.0497and they told me,1669.1505 
1576 1669.8240that1670.2642 
1578 1670.6497he was dead.1671.5476 
1579ROC_int_011672.2324[Hm.]1672.5443
1580ROC_se0_ag3_f_021672.2827[He had] a massive heart attack.1674.2896
1581 1675.0511He was fifty-three years old.1676.6138
1582ROC_int_011676.7304Wow.1676.9725
1583ROC_se0_ag3_f_021678.4074And my husband had1679.7223
1585 1680.1065his heart attack, he was forty-one.1682.5847 
1587 1684.0835And both of my sons were scared1686.2051 
1589 1686.6937when they got close to that age.1688.5425 
1591 1689.5855And,1690.0633 
1593 1690.2745when they passed that age, I guess they thought, oh I'm okay.1694.0463 
1595 1694.9822But,1695.3171 
1597 1695.9157that one got it.1697.1834 
1599 1697.3991And the younger one, he's fifty-four.1699.6088 
1601 1700.1304He's probably worried too.1701.6314 
1603 1702.4105But, I hope he1703.2983 
1605 1703.6460live a long time.1704.8578 
1607 1706.1771So, I've been through it.1707.2456 
1608ROC_int_011707.5515Yeah.1708.1369
1609ROC_se0_ag3_f_021708.4934And, my granddaughter,1709.8272
1611 1710.7454she um,1711.6407 
1613 1712.6619she was born to my daughter when my daughter was1715.8598 
1615 1716.6499eighteen.1717.4642 
1617 1718.4830And my daughter walked away from her.1720.1999 
1619 1720.3936She was two weeks old.1721.8042 
1620ROC_int_011722.1763Mm.1722.6077
1621ROC_se0_ag3_f_021722.8498So, I had to1724.1460
1623 1725.6514figure out what to do.1726.9059 
1625 1727.5706So, both of my sons said,1729.4224 
1627 1730.3019let's keep her. Let's take care of her.1732.5919 
1629 1733.5152I say, you guys in school. How we gonna do that? I gotta work. They said, we'll figure something out.1738.9512 
1631 1739.8652So,1740.4682 
1633 1740.7720I found a babysitter1742.2853 
1635 1742.4878she lived on School Street.1744.4158 
1637 1744.6227off North [Street, by] Portland Avenue.1747.3148 
1638ROC_int_011745.6867[Mm.]1746.1712
1639ROC_se0_ag3_f_021748.5204So, everyday, I had to drive over1750.9150
1641 1751.7183to School Street from Jefferson Avenue,1754.2053 
1643 1755.5610drop her at the babysitter1757.0928 
1645 1757.8873and then drive out to Elmwood Avenue to work.1760.4668 
1646ROC_int_011761.1270Wow.1761.6433
1647ROC_se0_ag3_f_021762.1504Then, the lady told me that she couldn't babysit anymore, cause she was gonna start,1767.1904
1649 1768.1604uh,1768.5374 
1651 1768.8350keeping1769.3626 
1653 1769.7148children1770.3243 
1655 1770.8157for the county.1771.8589 
1657 1772.8229So, she couldn't have1774.3148 
1659 1774.4824private1775.0811 
1661 1775.7105[kids] and county kids.1777.5526 
1662ROC_int_011775.7105[Mm.]1776.1792
1663ROC_se0_ag3_f_021778.1600I don't know if that was true or if she just didn't wanna do it anymore, but,1781.7035
1665 1782.2690I said, okay. So at work1783.9857 
1667 1784.3286they told me1785.2196 
1669 1786.1333um, Monroe Developmental Center1788.1009 
1671 1788.8469had a daycare.1789.8946 
1673 1790.0795So, I went over there, and they-1791.8974 
1675 1792.2495they took her.1793.0287 
1677 1793.4474<ts>1793.5839 
1679 1793.6807So, she1794.2917 
1681 1794.9969did alright.1795.8081 
1683 1796.5551So, she's still-1797.4178 
1685 1797.6379she's not still with me.1799.2314 
1687 1799.6033But, her children are (laughing) still with [me. <laugh>]1803.0230 
1688ROC_int_011802.0326[<laugh>]1803.1981
1689ROC_se0_ag3_f_021804.4253She- um,1805.6490
1691 1806.1680<ts>1806.2076 
1693 1806.3449she bought a house1807.4609 
1695 1807.7534on1808.1848 
1697 1808.2838/RD-ADDRESS-2/ Terrace.1809.6175 
1699 1810.9469But, I already had her1812.7014 
1701 1813.8692 children. Her daughter1815.3086 
1703 1815.5771lived with me all her life.1817.3070 
1705 1817.5689She's twenty now.1818.6649 
1707 1819.8798And, she had1820.8702 
1709 1820.9979twins.1821.7374 
1711 1822.5517And,1823.0535 
1713 1823.2978they're1823.6235 
1715 1823.8612eleven now.1824.7522 
1717 1825.6967So,1826.0577 
1719 1826.5551she started working. She's a nurse but, she started working for a private group of doctors.1832.7593 
1721 1833.4958And she had to be to work like seven.1835.4433 
1723 1836.1652But the twins' bus didn't come til seven forty.1839.3037 
1725 1840.0233And they was in first grade.1841.5384 
1727 1841.7180She couldn't leave 'em standing at the door.1844.0799 
1729 1845.0712They didn't know how to lock the door.1846.7175 
1730ROC_int_011846.8363[Hm.]1847.0520
1731ROC_se0_ag3_f_021846.8803[She] couldn't leave 'em on the porch.1848.5261
1732 1848.7071She couldn't lock the door and leave 'em on the porch.1850.8393
1734 1851.4488So. I started going up there1853.3196 
1736 1854.3892and wait for the school bus.1855.9695 
1738 1856.6738And when they got on the school bus,1858.2034 
1740 1858.6260I come back home.1859.6648 
1742 1859.8013I get ready go to work.1861.1086 
1744 1862.7262So, I thought,1863.6021 
1746 1864.8831what if that school bus is late then I'm late for work? I would panic. I can't stand to be late.1870.1743 
1748 1870.5832I'm serious.1871.5824 
1749ROC_int_011871.6011Mm-hm.1872.1371
1750ROC_se0_ag3_f_021872.5640So,1873.0658
1752 1873.8053<ts> I told her, I said, why don't1875.4472 
1754 1876.2773the twins come to my house,1878.4689 
1756 1879.1072go to school from my house and they just come home on the weekend?1882.5140 
1758 1883.1479Or, you come1883.9160 
1760 1884.5387down there on- spend the weekends or whatever.1886.9025 
1762 1887.5363So, that's what we agreed to do. And that lasted about a week.1890.5575 
1764 1890.7996<laugh>1891.1429 
1766 1891.4951She stopped coming down here, they stopped going up there.1894.6065 
1768 1894.9288They call this home.1896.0733 
1770 1896.2142They call that they mommy house. <laugh>1898.9531 
1771ROC_int_011899.1556[Mm-hm.]1899.5738
1772ROC_se0_ag3_f_021899.4901[So,] they still here1900.5838
1773 1900.6895They're going- they're in sixth grade now.1902.4062
1775 1903.4538So,1904.0348 
1777 1905.3575it works out fine. So, couple years ago,1908.2847 
1779 1908.7777she rented her house out1910.4365 
1781 1910.5774to1910.9603 
1783 1911.8407another family.1912.9727 
1785 1913.5049<ts>1913.6580 
1787 1914.1466And it1914.5295 
1789 1914.6924turned out to be1915.8369 
1791 1916.1362really good cause sh-1917.3048 
1793 1917.7890the person she rented to was a school nurse.1920.4080 
1794ROC_int_011920.7250Mm.1920.9627
1795ROC_se0_ag3_f_021921.4645And,1921.9003
1797 1922.3184She's in the process of buying-1924.3545 
1799 1924.7608she's in a program where she can buy her own house. So, she needs about another year.1929.3309 
1801 1930.0593And it's working out fine.1931.4283 
1802ROC_int_011931.9345Mm, that's good.1932.9839
1803ROC_se0_ag3_f_021932.9839Yeah, it's working out fine.1934.3309
1804 1934.8547The-1935.0440
1806 1935.1540p- the family that's in there,1936.7720 
1808 1937.6172not the dude, but1939.0962 
1810 1939.7322the girl.1940.3704 
1812 1940.6346She's on section eight.1942.1444 
1814 1942.7166So,1943.1876 
1816 1943.5133that's1944.0445 
1818 1944.5125added income1945.5226 
1820 1946.1433for my granddaughter.1947.3362 
1822 1948.0405And, it gives her a really nice house to live in.1951.2934 
1824 1952.0401And,1952.5985 
1826 1953.3254my granddaughter benefits.1955.0408 
1828 1955.7112She gets the1956.6987 
1830 1957.1190rent check1957.9642 
1832 1958.7653and she pays her mortgage and the rest is free money for her.1962.4805 
1834 1962.6389Along with her-1963.4465 
1836 1964.1997She- she's a nurse at the /RD-WORK-2/ Health Center.1966.6331 
1837ROC_int_011966.7872Mm.1967.1214
1838ROC_se0_ag3_f_021967.4770So, she's doing okay.1968.7315
1840 1969.1629But her kids are still here.1970.5494 
1842 1971.0358[And,] they don't wanna go home1972.4311 
1843ROC_int_011971.0358[Mm.]1971.3175
1844ROC_se0_ag3_f_021973.1266So, she said, um,1974.2955
1846 1975.0922when the1975.6644 
1848 1975.9329lease is up,1976.9850 
1850 1978.2659uh,1978.7369 
1852 1979.3509they'll- it'll be good for them1980.8475 
1854 1980.9443so they'll have their own room. I said, okay, they moving back home?1984.3838 
1856 1984.5819She said, oh no. <laugh>1987.2841 
1857ROC_int_011987.4117Best for them is it? [<laugh>]1989.5306
1858ROC_se0_ag3_f_021988.5754[Yeah.] She said, oh when they come to visit, they'll have their own room. They don't wanna come back. (laughing)1993.5254
1859 1993.7410They don't wanna live with me.1995.1090
1860ROC_int_011995.2851Mm-hm.1995.9190
1861ROC_se0_ag3_f_021995.9190Cause I asked one of them, I say, /RD-NAME-3/ if something happen I'm not here anymore,2000.2703
1862 2001.3798what would you do?2002.2415
1864 2003.0139Where would you live?2003.9251 
1866 2004.4665He said, in your garage.2005.7606 
1868 2005.8971<laugh>2007.0196 
1870 2007.8999That hurt my heart.2008.9651 
1871ROC_int_012008.9651Mm.2009.4760
1872ROC_se0_ag3_f_022009.6848You w-2010.0809
1874 2010.3186you wouldn't want to live with your mother? He said, no.2012.4975 
1876 2013.9061I said it's no bathroom in the garage.2016.0667 
1878 2016.4370He said I'd come in the house.2017.8059 
1880 2018.4354I said, what if some people live here and they don't want you in the m-2021.3694 
1882 2021.6819use they bathroom?2022.8352 
1884 2023.6935He said I'd go behind the garage.2025.3222 
1886 2025.8514I said, you can't shower behind the garage. You know, so,2029.2011 
1888 2029.6478I said, we'll- we'll talk about this. We need to talk about this [a little bit] more. You know, so,2034.7983 
1889ROC_int_012032.9255[Mm-hm.]2033.5130
1890ROC_se0_ag3_f_022035.7553they're okay.2036.4683
1891ROC_int_012037.3751Yeah.2037.6216
1892ROC_se0_ag3_f_022038.0794They're okay.2038.7793