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1VLD_int_010.9111Alright. If you could say your name please.2.9021
2VLD_se0_ag3_f_013.5642/RD-NAME-8/5.7558
3VLD_int_017.1162Could you spell your last name?8.1374
4VLD_se0_ag3_f_018.5104/RD-NAME-1/9.1688
6 9.2894/RD-NAME-2/10.0993 
8 10.2095/RD-NAME-1/10.5679 
10 10.6954/RD-NAME-2/11.5087 
11VLD_int_0112.6966Alright.13.1022
13 13.6198And can you give me your birthday please?15.3358 
14VLD_se0_ag3_f_0115.7088My birthday is August eleventh17.9097
15VLD_int_0118.9110What year?19.2654
16VLD_se0_ag3_f_0120.1234/unintelligible/20.9726
17VLD_int_0122.3663What year?22.7766
18VLD_se0_ag3_f_0123.3595/unintelligible/24.0449
19VLD_int_0127.5315I need the year.28.1844
20VLD_se0_ag3_f_0129.2196Ninteen30.1755
22 30.4599/unintelligible/31.1453 
23VLD_int_0133.0793Okay, well how old are you?34.0259
25 34.4735It's34.6740 
27 34.9678so, six in [one, half a dozen in the other]36.7910 
28VLD_se0_ag3_f_0135.3268[<laugh>]37.0661
29 37.6618Nineteen sixty nine. /I [would be fired/.]39.9373
30VLD_int_0139.0793[<laugh>]41.1496
31VLD_se0_ag3_f_0140.3290[Goodness.]40.9911
32 41.7072Have to make a joke out of it.43.2000
33VLD_int_0143.3960<laugh> Um,45.2751
35 45.9699where were you born?46.8372 
36VLD_se0_ag3_f_0147.1543I was born, in Miami Florida.49.3587
38 51.0886In nineteen sixty nine.52.5434 
39VLD_int_0152.5528<laugh>54.1568
41 55.0369Um,55.5499 
43 55.7923what neighborhood did you grow up in?57.0653 
44VLD_se0_ag3_f_0158.0375The neighborhood right here on the West Side, Valdosta, Georgia.61.1616
46 62.2900/RD-ADDRESS-4/ Street.63.4313 
47VLD_int_0171.7488Um, besides Valdosta,73.2782
49 73.4973did you live anywhere else?74.6491 
50VLD_se0_ag3_f_0175.7157As a child?76.7649
51VLD_int_0177.3617Anytime.77.7651
52VLD_se0_ag3_f_0178.0518Oh, certainly.78.8585
53VLD_int_0179.0544Where- where else have you lived?80.0441
54VLD_se0_ag3_f_0180.4952Melbourne, Florida,81.5325
55VLD_int_0182.6464Mm-hm.83.0027
57 85.2735Anywhere else?85.7072 
58VLD_se0_ag3_f_0186.0662Valdosta, Georgia.87.3858
59VLD_int_0187.9162Anywhere else?88.6017
60VLD_se0_ag3_f_0189.7674Not live, live. No that's about it.91.6512
61VLD_int_0191.8844That's it? Okay.92.5465
63 93.8976And where'd you go to school?95.0447 
64VLD_se0_ag3_f_0195.9026High school?96.4995
65VLD_int_0197.3202Mm-hm.97.5580
66VLD_se0_ag3_f_0197.7538Valdosta, Georgia.98.9289
67VLD_int_0199.4826Which- which high school?100.3685
68VLD_se0_ag3_f_01100.8584/RD-SCHOOL-3/101.8467
69VLD_int_01107.2918And108.2524
71 108.5228where'd you go to college?109.3994 
72VLD_se0_ag3_f_01110.1035Um,110.9009
74 112.3126does it matter what year?113.3384 
75VLD_int_01113.6508Mm-mm.113.9259
76VLD_se0_ag3_f_01113.9306Okay well, /RD-SCHOOL-4/115.4973
77VLD_int_01116.4953Did you start at /RD-SCHOOL-4/?117.6271
78VLD_se0_ag3_f_01118.3406I did not.119.0447
79VLD_int_01119.6368What school did you start at?120.6580
80VLD_se0_ag3_f_01121.5300Uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/122.7703
81VLD_int_01123.4453/RD-SCHOOL-7/?124.6810
82VLD_se0_ag3_f_01124.8721That is correct.125.8560
83VLD_int_01125.9026And where's [that-]126.4808
84VLD_se0_ag3_f_01126.3130[Oh what-]126.6627
85 126.8675They've changed the name of it. I forgot now.128.9848
87 129.4173It's a four year institution.130.7696 
89 131.4224Uh, in Melbourne, Florida.132.9844 
90VLD_int_01132.9938Oh, that's when you lived in Melbourne?134.2171
91VLD_se0_ag3_f_01134.2854Mm-hm.134.7890
92VLD_int_01137.5902And what's your current occupation?138.8026
93VLD_se0_ag3_f_01139.4729I'm an educator.140.6537
94VLD_int_01141.7297Where do you teach?142.6483
95VLD_se0_ag3_f_01142.9607At [/RD-SCHOOL-3/]143.7021
96VLD_int_01143.1472[And where do you-] I'm sorry, where do you educate?144.6720
97VLD_se0_ag3_f_01145.3295At /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School.146.6771
98VLD_int_01151.4461What do you151.9823
100 152.3273educate152.7750 
102 153.0769the children in, at Valdosta High School?154.3779 
103VLD_se0_ag3_f_01154.4805Valdosta.155.8403
104VLD_int_01156.6487You educate them in [Valdosta? I no, (laughing) what] do you- what subject?160.2613
105VLD_se0_ag3_f_01157.1709[<laugh>]159.1247
106 160.3219Oh subject matter, oh I'm so sorry. English language arts.163.1197
107VLD_int_01169.4507Where was your father born?170.5558
108VLD_se0_ag3_f_01171.4966I do not know.172.5149
109VLD_int_01173.6975What about your mom?174.3223
110VLD_se0_ag3_f_01175.1290I am not sure.176.1781
112 180.7707We didn't talk about those things.182.3973 
114 182.7179We don't ask questions like that.184.2566 
115VLD_int_01184.7929Hm.185.0074
116VLD_se0_ag3_f_01185.2545And we didn't ask questions like that.187.0031
117VLD_int_01187.3108So do you know what your dad did for a doz- do you know what your dad does for a living, or did for a living?191.6415
118VLD_se0_ag3_f_01192.4482Uh, he was in the military. And he now works as a contractor for the military.197.1099
120 197.7627In the safety department.199.2456 
122 199.8238But exactly what he does, I am not sure.202.1540 
123VLD_int_01202.4385And what about your mom?203.2219
124VLD_se0_ag3_f_01203.6555She worked at a hospital.204.7839
126 206.4346She did.207.2599 
127VLD_int_01209.1799[What did she-]209.5483
128VLD_se0_ag3_f_01209.1985[She gave] me a look.210.3922
129VLD_int_01210.6300What did she-211.0316
131 211.6932what did she do at the hospital?212.8496 
132VLD_se0_ag3_f_01213.1096She worked in food services.214.7975
133VLD_int_01215.5622And hospitality.216.7746
134VLD_se0_ag3_f_01220.5830<exhale>221.6648
135VLD_int_01225.9284How long have we known each other?227.0773
136VLD_se0_ag3_f_01228.2570All your [life.]229.4787
137VLD_int_01228.9565[<laugh>]232.6460
138 234.5321Um.235.5300
140 236.7085Excellent. Okay.237.7251 
142 238.4086So I'm gonna stop typing now.239.8595 
143VLD_se0_ag3_f_01240.8539You're typing what I'm [saying?]242.4812
144VLD_int_01242.3833[No.] I was not typing whatchu were saying. I was answering the questions on my little form.245.9026
145 246.4762But now,246.8632
146VLD_se0_ag3_f_01247.6279Oh, so you weren't even engaging in the conversation?249.9908
147VLD_int_01250.0421I was engaging.250.8442
148VLD_se0_ag3_f_01251.5856That is sad. (whispered)252.4622
149VLD_int_01252.6767But now we're back- we're back.253.7165
151 254.1408Okay, so254.9941 
153 255.1142you were born in Mia- I didn't know you were born in Miami actually.257.3151 
154VLD_se0_ag3_f_01257.6042Yes.258.6114
155VLD_int_01259.0450I didn't know that. When did you move?260.3180
157 260.7237How- Wait, how were you bor- I- [I mean] how were you born? I mean I know how you were born.264.2337 
158VLD_se0_ag3_f_01262.1494[<laugh>]262.3825
159VLD_int_01264.3829Came through the vaginal canal, all that.265.9870
160VLD_se0_ag3_f_01266.0432Wait, maybe not.267.0361
161VLD_int_01267.1562Maybe not. [In fact, were] you C-section?268.8115
162VLD_se0_ag3_f_01267.7204[You know-]268.1074
163 269.5762I don't know. We didn't ask those [questions remember?]272.1875
164VLD_int_01271.4408[Oh.]271.7305
165 272.2434<cough> that's right, Okay.273.2226
167 273.4826So you were born274.2986 
169 274.8162[in Miami.]275.5622 
170VLD_se0_ag3_f_01274.8208[Mm-hm.]275.2032
171 275.7954[Miami, Florida.]276.6300
172VLD_int_01275.9399[And how did you-]276.6067
173 276.9899Huh?277.3248
174VLD_se0_ag3_f_01277.8517Miami, [Florida.]279.0501
175VLD_int_01278.8123[Miam-] How did you come back to Valdosta?280.4198
176 280.6716Or how- When- when did you come back to Valdosta?282.4210
177VLD_se0_ag3_f_01283.1628/RD-NAME-2/, I do not know these answers (laughing),286.0048
179 286.8721to these questions,288.1638 
181 288.3922that you are asking me.289.5953 
182VLD_int_01289.9636Okay.290.3040
183VLD_se0_ag3_f_01291.0116Alright.291.5152
184VLD_int_01291.5152So what is the earliest- Okay, but you remember coming- when you came back.294.6627
186 294.9425You remember living-295.9310 
188 296.3367Did you live next door?297.3858 
190 298.4944When you came back?299.3244 
191VLD_se0_ag3_f_01301.7212I've lived next door.302.9941
193 303.5106I've lived other places in Valdosta.305.6648 
194VLD_int_01305.8840I know, but when you were younger. That's what I'm asking.307.7118
195VLD_se0_ag3_f_01307.8517But I've lived other places in Valdosta. With my mother, my sister.311.9772
196VLD_int_01312.6580Okay, so when you first came back, when you were [youn-]314.6317
197VLD_se0_ag3_f_01314.5687[I] was a baby okay? (yelling)316.2706
198VLD_int_01316.3079I know, that's why I'm asking.317.8047
199VLD_se0_ag3_f_01317.8187How would I remember? Oh-319.2782
200VLD_int_01321.1096Okay.321.4266
201VLD_se0_ag3_f_01321.4453Oh next door.322.1960
202VLD_int_01322.8208<laugh>323.4783
204 324.4109Thank [you.]324.7653 
205VLD_se0_ag3_f_01324.6534[That] was the answer? [Oh well sorry.]326.5838
206VLD_int_01325.4973[Yes. (laughing)]326.5558
207 326.9230You did live next- Okay.327.9815
208VLD_se0_ag3_f_01327.9815I did.328.5924
209VLD_int_01328.6157So what's your earliest memory of gro- Okay so when you lived there-331.7725
211 332.2201Of growing up. Just growing up. In-333.8649 
213 334.1680living next door cause it was- I remember,336.0752 
215 336.6907when I came, but I was- you were much older when I338.5745 
217 338.8718got here.339.3893 
218VLD_se0_ag3_f_01339.4266I wasn't that much older.340.5411
219VLD_int_01341.3897You were a teenager.342.1031
220VLD_se0_ag3_f_01343.7212That's ten years.344.6771
221VLD_int_01345.5805[Plus.]346.2823
222VLD_se0_ag3_f_01345.7857[Maybe twelve.]346.7229
223VLD_int_01348.2483Fourteen. (whispered)348.6894
224VLD_se0_ag3_f_01349.0264Okay fourteen.350.0009
225VLD_int_01350.8764<laugh>351.2774
227 352.2520Okay when you grew up- Okay.353.3058 
228VLD_se0_ag3_f_01354.2943Do you have your list of questions that I may see?356.5418
229VLD_int_01357.2028Why do you need to see the [questions?]358.3523
230VLD_se0_ag3_f_01358.0281[Cause I] think you're just making up (laughing) stuff cause-360.2524
231VLD_int_01361.5067No, this is part of the questions [you're just], you're answering-364.1494
232VLD_se0_ag3_f_01362.6969[Oh.]362.9907
233VLD_int_01365.4830You're answering the way you want to answer. So then I have to adapt.368.7423
235 372.3876Okay.372.8166 
237 373.0730So growing up, what do you remember about the neighborhood?375.2739 
239 375.5805When you were younger.376.3452 
240VLD_se0_ag3_f_01382.2986What do I remember about this neighborhood?384.2990
241VLD_int_01384.3176Mm-hm.384.6720
242VLD_se0_ag3_f_01387.5805That it was a neighborhood. Not a hood,390.4524
244 390.5420as the kids try to say now, that it was a neighborhood.393.3205 
246 393.7111Uh, excuse me.394.4711 
248 395.8094That-396.1777 
250 397.6093I mean, what-398.1519 
252 403.4367There weren't a whole lot of ki- I mean I'm sure there were kids405.9571 
254 406.0839in the bigger neighborhood. That were- But there were not a lot of kids409.0590 
256 409.4880in this neighbor- this part of the neighborhood. But411.9070 
258 412.5224The older people watched out for you. I remember Ms. Sister,416.1119 
260 416.6386you know. And417.3847 
262 417.5432going to the grocery for her. Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ and her sister Ms. Rachel.421.3295 
264 421.7958I can't remember Mr.- um,423.1946 
266 424.2240Mr. Squirrel, his mother lived across the street so they all watched out for us, told on us. Ms. L even.430.3266 
268 430.8348When I was431.3431 
270 431.5856thirty years old, you know. Keeping up with what we were doing. Yeah, neighborhoood.435.6038 
272 436.2007People looking out for you, watching out for you.438.2897 
274 438.8212[Watching] over you. [You watching out f-]440.6083 
275VLD_int_01438.8539[/See-/]439.0917
277 439.7725[There weren't a lot of kids?]441.2040 
278VLD_se0_ag3_f_01441.6365There were kids, but-442.5504
280 443.4177Now my sister may have hung out with other kids,446.2254 
282 447.1702I didn't go beyond,448.6986 
284 448.8221certain449.4550 
286 451.7352parameters of the neighborhood.453.3858 
288 454.4292You know what I'm saying.455.2125 
290 455.7814Like, you wouldn't find me457.2502 
292 457.9916on river- What's this street? River street? which is just a couple blocks away but just like right in here? Yes.463.0490 
293VLD_int_01464.3507Did you ride your bike?465.4733
294VLD_se0_ag3_f_01465.7297Oh lor- But I didn't get a bike until I was ten.468.0285
296 468.3969That was a ten speed.469.4507 
298 469.9963And your mom sent that to me from Oklahoma.472.0794 
300 473.2265You know the story?474.1171 
301VLD_int_01474.1544Mm-mm.474.5741
302VLD_se0_ag3_f_01474.6114Oh I loved riding that bike. Oh man.477.5071
304 478.1214And I for someth- something within my spirit told me like, this will be the only bike I will ever have.483.4779 
306 484.0934And I would ride that bike to the Zippy Market.486.5601 
308 487.0217Oh that's that country side coming out, Zippy Market, convenience store.490.1307 
310 490.7789Uh, the grocery store that used to be right up there, it used to be several names, but494.7144 
312 496.0142what was the last name?497.1845 
313VLD_int_01498.3036Uh, Harvey's or Pick 'n Save?499.8657
314VLD_se0_ag3_f_01499.9823Yeah, but it- yeah, but it was another name. But anyway, and then one- I never forget, one day it was raining.504.8212
316 505.5999And I don't know why I went behind,507.1235 
318 507.3131I guess trying to, beat the traffic.509.1193 
320 509.6042And I rode across those little grids that they have in there.512.6164 
322 513.1387And it bent the wheel.514.2053 
324 515.2405And I dragged that bike all the way back down here,518.5824 
326 518.6624/RD-ADDRESS-5/, crying and screaming.520.6297 
328 521.0540You thought I had been attacked with something. No, my bike cause I thought would never524.5698 
330 525.0762have a bike again.526.3007 
332 526.4642And I never ever ever had another bike.528.1684 
334 529.6792Isn't that sad?530.5045 
335VLD_int_01532.2520So how'd you get the bike?533.2592
336VLD_se0_ag3_f_01533.6648Yo- I just-534.4482
337VLD_int_01534.5228I know, but how- but did you ask for the bike or she just sent it to you?537.9349
338VLD_se0_ag3_f_01537.9396I think she just sent it to- I don't- I don't ask for anything.540.4342
340 541.7864We couldn't really afford anything. I didn't really-543.8510 
342 544.3312like a Easter dress, I didn't ask for that. And the shoes, I didn't ask for that. She just sent it to me.548.1735 
343VLD_int_01549.2588Hm. All this was all the same year?550.8395
344VLD_se0_ag3_f_01551.2965I can't say it was the same [year. I can't put-]553.4973
345VLD_int_01552.7047[Oh but just at different] times.553.9590
346VLD_se0_ag3_f_01553.9636Yeah.554.4486
348 554.5978So I didn't ask for stuff. No.556.1634 
349VLD_int_01557.0400Mkay so, you were the older sister.558.6813
350VLD_se0_ag3_f_01558.9471I [am.]559.4041
351VLD_int_01559.0963[Okay.] So,559.7725
352VLD_se0_ag3_f_01560.7190It cr-561.1795
354 561.4266In years,562.2660 
356 562.4292yes. <laugh>564.6627 
358 564.9984In experience,566.0056 
360 566.2621No. (laughing)566.9662 
361VLD_int_01567.3800What does that mean?568.0841
362VLD_se0_ag3_f_01568.7696What does that mean? You said I'm the older sister.570.6534
364 571.0637My younger sister,572.1315 
366 572.4113she has actually done everything573.8043 
368 574.0468before I have.574.9794 
369VLD_int_01575.9353What do you mean by that?576.7000
371 578.1362[I mean] you said-578.8076 
372VLD_se0_ag3_f_01578.1455[<exhale>]578.4999
373VLD_int_01578.9930But I'm just trying to make sure I'm not assuming anything.581.3804
374VLD_se0_ag3_f_01581.7115Uh, okay.582.4808
376 583.4740Um.584.2027 
378 586.4431Wa- okay.587.0866 
380 587.8420Fighting,588.5741 
381VLD_int_01588.9098<laugh>589.2735
382VLD_se0_ag3_f_01589.2922boyfriends,590.1082
384 590.2667dating. The junior prom, senior prom.592.6623 
386 592.9934She's done all of that.593.9772 
388 594.2570Married, two kids. The two kids are old enough to have two [kids.]597.4826 
389VLD_int_01597.2774[<laugh>]599.3757
390VLD_se0_ag3_f_01597.7857[If they wanna have kids (laughing)]599.2452
391 599.3851<laugh>600.6813
393 601.1430So I'm just saying, she has done everything first.603.3299 
395 604.5224But not everything. Things that606.0332 
397 606.5321people talk about.607.3808 
398VLD_int_01608.4905Mm.608.7750
400 609.7111So tell me about,610.6996 
402 612.5554when you- Okay. So you had the [bike.]614.3600 
403VLD_se0_ag3_f_01614.2621[Had] a bike, yes.615.5059
404VLD_int_01615.5246And then you616.0515
406 616.6810lost your bike.617.4550 
407VLD_se0_ag3_f_01617.7394[Yes.]618.5181
408VLD_int_01618.1824[Or you] bent your bike.619.1150
409VLD_se0_ag3_f_01619.1430And- but I really lost it, cause who would fix it?621.1807
410VLD_int_01622.1634Nobody in the neighborhood fix it [for you?]624.0472
411VLD_se0_ag3_f_01623.6042[Mm-mm], see I don't have friends like that.625.4554
412 626.1502And nobody in my grandmother's house, fixed it for-628.2566
414 628.6110I don't even know what happened to the bike.629.8467 
416 630.8598Except my wheel got bent.632.0662 
417VLD_int_01633.7064Mm.634.0188
418VLD_se0_ag3_f_01635.0167Isn't that something.636.0145
419VLD_int_01637.0684I mean I- I didn't know that story- I never knew about the bike.639.4266
420VLD_se0_ag3_f_01640.1028Really?640.5924
422 640.8302[A] great ten speed, yes.642.6207 
423VLD_int_01640.8395[I-]640.9794
424VLD_se0_ag3_f_01643.0449But anyway I hope this is not all about the bike. (laughing)645.3812
425VLD_int_01645.4733It's not all about the bike, well I just- I never knew about647.9306
427 648.6021the bike.649.0590 
428VLD_se0_ag3_f_01649.4461[Mm.]649.7352
429VLD_int_01649.5440[Okay], so I remember-650.5652
430 651.0781Did you often come- did you come visit us in Oklahoma a lot?653.7254
431VLD_se0_ag3_f_01654.4622<laugh>655.6419
433 656.2900I've been to Oklahoma maybe three times.658.0706 
435 658.2007I think three times. I loved out- in Oklahoma. I loved the air. I loved what it did for my skin,663.3939 
437 663.7810my hair, I loved Oklahoma.665.5016 
439 666.8492It was just being alone in Oklahoma that was the problem.669.4325 
440VLD_int_01669.5665Mm.669.9722
442 670.4758You- you didn't like to be by yourself?671.9493 
443VLD_se0_ag3_f_01672.4141Uh, Oklahoma,673.6405
445 673.7512certain places I would be in,675.3926 
447 676.1246had spirits,677.0199 
448VLD_int_01677.6494<laugh>678.6613
450 679.0529What does that-679.4819 
451VLD_se0_ag3_f_01679.9144Spirits, what does that mean? You know what a spirit is.682.0734
453 682.4744<sound effect>683.8499 
454VLD_int_01685.5834<laugh> Okay.686.9636
456 688.2552You had the- the [spirits?]689.5095 
457VLD_se0_ag3_f_01689.3044[I'm] sorry.690.0318
458VLD_int_01690.5540Were you scared?691.3327
459VLD_se0_ag3_f_01692.7677Your brother took me to the bus station Greyhound. Put me on a bus at two o'clock in the morning.697.5845
461 697.9098Of course I was afraid. (yelling)699.4205 
462VLD_int_01699.5977Oh okay, so [it was-]700.5490
463VLD_se0_ag3_f_01700.2552[And she] was afraid. And she had to go to work.702.4654
464VLD_int_01702.9259So a little bit afraid?704.1056
465VLD_se0_ag3_f_01705.6444[Yes.]706.2459
466VLD_int_01705.9941[A little] bit afraid- [Okay.]707.0945
467VLD_se0_ag3_f_01706.6795[Yeah.]707.1365
468VLD_int_01708.8839<laugh>709.4062
469VLD_se0_ag3_f_01709.9936Minnie you don't understand.711.2946
470VLD_int_01711.3086I don't. That's why I'm trying to understand.713.1645
472 713.9272Like you've told me some stories, but I don't know a lot of [stories.]716.8377 
473VLD_se0_ag3_f_01716.4740[Well] your brother will have to tell you that one.718.2692
474VLD_int_01718.7914About the- [about-] about the [spirits?]721.1788
475VLD_se0_ag3_f_01719.5468[Spirits.]720.3115
477 720.9037[Mm-hm.]721.3141 
478VLD_int_01721.5787Were you at our house?722.4926
479VLD_se0_ag3_f_01722.5299Yes.723.1641
480VLD_int_01723.8169Oh, was I born?724.8614
481VLD_se0_ag3_f_01724.8800Yes.725.8779
482VLD_int_01726.3535How old was I?726.8653
483VLD_se0_ag3_f_01727.3129That was the time when you had the tooth sticking out above the tooth.730.0314
485 730.3251So how old were you?731.1785 
486VLD_int_01732.0891[Had to be like maybe] six, [seven.]733.7745
487VLD_se0_ag3_f_01732.1297[Ten?]732.6006
489 733.3447[Oh.]733.7550 
490 734.6698Nah, you were big.735.5604
492 736.3158Seven?736.7961 
493VLD_int_01737.2577Eight?737.5515
494VLD_se0_ag3_f_01737.9851Nah you were- Mm-mm.739.4959
496 740.6512You were younger than that.741.5278 
497VLD_int_01743.4282Eh- if you just said ten and I said eight and you said younger than that.746.0674
499 747.5969<laugh>748.2590 
500VLD_se0_ag3_f_01748.7614You were younger than ten,750.1559
502 750.3227you were younger than eight.751.4006 
503VLD_int_01751.9415So six.752.9767
504VLD_se0_ag3_f_01753.5782Or seven. Somewhere in there, but you were a big girl.756.2116
505VLD_int_01757.0043Okay.757.4566
506VLD_se0_ag3_f_01757.9788And- and you got scared so you left.759.8160
508 761.1624It wasn't that simple. Your mom decided it would be best for me to [leave. (laughing)]766.4688 
509VLD_int_01765.1492[<laugh>]766.9724
510VLD_se0_ag3_f_01766.9504The facilities- So that she could get some rest.769.3727
511VLD_int_01769.6851Uh.769.8343
512VLD_se0_ag3_f_01769.8576My spirit could rest,771.1086
514 771.2054/I come home/ (laughing).772.7020 
516 773.2184So I could come on home.774.3561 
517VLD_int_01774.4681Okay.774.8737
518VLD_se0_ag3_f_01774.9110Okay.775.4146
519VLD_int_01775.6478So tell us about- Okay, so tell me about s-777.7461
521 778.0771Going to school.778.8838 
522VLD_se0_ag3_f_01779.6940I loved school.780.8737
524 781.6991School was my sanctuary.783.3824 
525VLD_int_01784.7195Really?785.2091
526VLD_se0_ag3_f_01785.4795Yes.786.1976
528 786.5100[Yes.]787.0975 
529VLD_int_01787.0276[Were] you always a good student?788.1327
530VLD_se0_ag3_f_01788.6083I wouldn't say a great student, or a good student. I just- school was my sanctuary. I'll never forget.792.9670
532 793.7037/RD-SCHOOL-3/ Elementary was just what? A few blocks away.796.5574 
534 796.7859Which we walked to school.798.2349 
536 798.7618Hm.798.9623 
538 799.3447Something someone else did not do.801.3964 
539VLD_int_01801.6062I don't know what you're talking about.802.5434
540VLD_se0_ag3_f_01802.8465/RD-SCHOOL-4/803.8024
542 804.0251[You-]804.4214 
543VLD_int_01804.0344[Mm-hm.]804.4354
544VLD_se0_ag3_f_01804.9437We [walked.]805.6618
545VLD_int_01805.1582[Are you] implying that someone in this room did not walk to school?808.0212
546VLD_se0_ag3_f_01808.0165Exactly.808.7719
547 809.4562But I won't say anymore, but anyway, we walked to school and that was during the time when-813.2285
549 813.7626Oh gosh I can't remember the man's name, but it was the killing of the children in Atlanta.817.8576 
551 818.3938Remember?818.9347 
553 819.5642Oh you weren't- You weren't [born then.]821.1729 
554VLD_int_01820.3010[Really], something.821.7185
555VLD_se0_ag3_f_01822.1323Mm-hm. And so like, so afraid. But just824.8881
557 825.2518excited about school and when I would get to school. And827.8246 
559 828.2629Our teacher would pull up, Oh gosh, Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ that was her name. Which832.1144 
561 832.4132I actually went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ school first, but anyway834.7385 
563 836.0255right over here at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ elementary.837.7321 
565 838.4170We would run to her car. We would race to her car, the students.840.9996 
567 841.5301They'd bring her things back to the classroom. That was,843.6901 
569 844.1564the second semester of third grade.846.1183 
571 846.8318And I remember reading stories and doing the multiplication and we would have to850.2269 
573 850.4104race each other or whatever.851.7511 
575 853.0089Loved it.853.4846 
577 854.9927Ham bone.855.7802 
579 855.9103She'd play that beating her chest but she would also throw erasers at us, if we were misbehave.859.9275 
581 860.5011She also would861.1539 
583 861.6667hit our hands with a little ruler. I don't know if that was legal or not, but.864.8317 
585 865.4286Hey, we were866.0581 
587 866.2120six, seven, eight years old.867.8440 
589 869.2697She's still my favorite teacher.870.6872 
590VLD_int_01871.3353Ms. /RD-NAME-2/.871.9322
591VLD_se0_ag3_f_01871.9322Ms. /RD-NAME-6/.873.3077
592VLD_int_01874.1890She still living?874.9817
593VLD_se0_ag3_f_01875.2429I'm not sure. She was on the board of education.878.1420
594VLD_int_01878.8788Oh.879.2751
596 879.8440Recent like, [in the last few-] Oh, [okay.]881.8490 
597VLD_se0_ag3_f_01880.5527[Mm-hm.]880.9911
599 881.3454[Mm-hm.]881.8304 
600VLD_int_01882.9157And then- So that was third grade. What about-884.9021
602 885.1632So- and,885.6948 
604 885.8486/RD-SCHOOL-3/ used to be like887.0144 
606 887.3956before it went to middle sch- cause it was middle school at one [point.]890.3752 
607VLD_se0_ag3_f_01889.7923[Never.]890.3099
608 892.9491No, /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was always elem- they done went to fifth and sixth [grade.]895.9695
609VLD_int_01895.7317[That's] what I mean, like896.5524
610 896.6503f- It was fourth and fifth grade.898.0771
611VLD_se0_ag3_f_01898.2357four, fifth [or then six- yeah]900.2582
612VLD_int_01898.7766[Before you moved over to s- Mm-hm.]900.3515
613 900.7618So, but now it's back to like, [up to fifth, /three/-] Up to fifth grade or something [like that.]904.6880
614VLD_se0_ag3_f_01902.2306[Elementary.]902.9860
616 904.2497[Right.]904.6926 
617 904.9118[Right.]905.3128
618VLD_int_01905.0470[So] for you it was up to fifth grade?906.7665
619VLD_se0_ag3_f_01907.1348Right.907.5172
620VLD_int_01907.6244Okay, so then when you left /RD-SCHOOL-3/ where'd you go?909.6761
621VLD_se0_ag3_f_01910.7334/RD-SCHOOL-3/911.6194
622VLD_int_01912.7058[Junior]913.2607
623VLD_se0_ag3_f_01912.7198[Junior] High. Which is /RD-SCHOOL-3/ middle school, but they-915.2565
624 915.8207you know, tore it down. And917.4795
626 918.2349made it new so.919.3260 
628 919.8063It's so sad, all the buildings that I re- Can you imagine? They've torn them down. /RD-SCHOOL-3/ elementary,924.6685 
630 925.0509<sound effect>925.3260 
632 925.7876they just knocked it down. Built a new school and then renamed it.928.6553 
634 930.8131/RD-SCHOOL-3/ Junior High, knocked it down,933.0140 
636 933.4709renamed it.934.1750 
637VLD_int_01936.0810/RD-SCHOOL-2/ [High School-]936.9670
638VLD_se0_ag3_f_01936.6546[That's sad] to me. Now /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School is moving.939.2564
639 939.6347And that saddens me as well. I'm not as excited as the942.1370
641 944.0021other teachers and faculty members. They're all like, oh it take-946.8139 
643 947.1251It's three miles to walk around the school, blah blah blah.950.0161 
645 951.0513That doesn't excite me.952.0538 
646VLD_int_01954.3888So what was-954.9436
648 955.1581Did you-955.5965 
650 955.6990Were you-956.1234 
652 956.2213Did you have any fond memories of /RD-SCHOOL-3/ middle school, or958.5722 
654 958.6623I'm sorry. /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Junior High?959.7698 
655VLD_se0_ag3_f_01962.3752Mm, /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Junior High, I got involved in sports.964.8698
657 965.6007But, I mean I- everyday was a great day for me at school.968.5150 
659 968.6876I could even remember969.4896 
661 969.8315cursing. Well actually, I wrote a girl a note cussing her out.972.9670 
663 973.5918And she gave the note to the science teacher and he took me outside.976.8791 
665 977.3116And he told me that I was an ath- student athlete, blah blah blah.980.4171 
667 980.8974And how great I was and I don't need to do this and that's why I don't curse.984.4641 
668VLD_int_01986.6643And that happened in the seventh grade?987.9232
669VLD_se0_ag3_f_01988.1424Seventh gr- seventh or eighth grade.989.8770
671 989.9458Cause it was /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Junior High School then. Yeah.992.2819 
673 993.4196I think it was seventh grade.994.5014 
675 995.9225I know you know these [stories stop (laughing)]998.2026 
676VLD_int_01996.7477[I- I don't know.]998.2353
677VLD_se0_ag3_f_01998.4451[It's not even the whole] story. I'm just telling you little clips so we can move on.1001.9085
678VLD_int_01998.4451[No I don't.]999.2243
679 1002.3888But I don't, but that's why I'm inter- like, I don't know that.1004.8881
681 1005.3684Like I really don't, like, I'm [asking like I]1007.2288 
682VLD_se0_ag3_f_011006.5201[Mm-hm.]1007.2475
683 1007.3862Cause she wrote me a cur- I can't even remember her name now.1010.0021
685 1010.8554I could see her face sitting in science class.1013.0237 
687 1013.2370<laugh> Okay, I got something for you.1015.4472 
689 1015.9508And I wrote it up.1016.7762 
691 1017.0326And I gave it to her.1018.0118 
693 1018.3009She-1018.5387 
695 1018.8558Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, that was his name. Mr. /RD-NAME-2/.1020.9716 
696VLD_int_011022.2306And he told you don't cuss cause you a sci- a [student athlete?]1025.1496
697VLD_se0_ag3_f_011024.5341[Well, you know] to that, I mean there was- back- this is not me. I'm a student athlete, blah blah blah.1029.0513
698 1029.4709So did I get into trouble? No, but him talking to me like that, boy, that just made an impression on me.1033.9851
700 1034.5197For1034.9720 
702 1035.7647[thirty] years. Yeah.1037.1496 
703VLD_int_011035.7740[Okay.]1036.1284
704 1037.5261What sports did you play?1038.4680
705VLD_se0_ag3_f_011042.3662Basketball and track.1044.5240
706VLD_int_011045.1628Were you good?1045.7130
707VLD_se0_ag3_f_011046.6363Mm.1047.2098
709 1047.6761So-so.1048.2683 
710VLD_int_011050.7198Hm.1050.9670
712 1051.2794Mkay.1051.6431 
714 1053.0886What was your favorite subject in high s- I mean, in- What was your favorite subject up to this point?1057.0835 
715VLD_se0_ag3_f_011064.5570I don't know. I'd have to think about that because I had great teachers.1067.4946
717 1068.1743Social studies we had to do- Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/. I had great teachers.1071.9792 
719 1072.4501Ms.- Like I said, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ was social studies with all those presidents projects.1076.3845 
721 1076.7109I should know all forty- which one is this? forty five?1079.5692 
723 1079.7499<laugh>1080.7291 
725 1081.0416I should know all of them.1082.3145 
727 1082.7715Um,1083.3963 
729 1083.6248Like I said, Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ in third grade,1085.7744 
731 1086.2255had a math teacher in fifth grade. Mr. /RD-NAME-3/ who was a1089.5176 
733 1090.2963teacher when I was in fifth grade. Then became an assistant principle. I don't know if he became a principal principal, but then got into trouble. So I don't know where he is now.1098.0250 
735 1098.7058So,1099.3307 
737 1099.9089<ts> I'm just trying to think like1101.0751 
739 1102.3196gosh, if I could just remember all of their names.1104.8737 
741 1106.0767My first language arts teacher that I- r- It was the end of the school year. She started reading-1110.2908 
743 1110.9436reading Edgar Allen Poe to us. And I don't remember what t- uh- the story was,1115.0516 
745 1115.6205but she was sitting on top of the desk. It was so interesting and just like.1118.6130 
747 1119.1399Moment by moment what was she gonna s- This was fourth grade.1121.5879 
749 1122.0810What she was going to say. And1123.6571 
751 1124.0627she never finished [reading the whole story. (laughing)]1126.3569 
752VLD_int_011125.0046[<laugh>]1127.4853
753VLD_se0_ag3_f_011128.3002But anyway.1128.9669
754VLD_int_011129.3260[Is that how] you started [is that-]1131.1911
755VLD_se0_ag3_f_011129.3307[What wa-]1129.8389
757 1130.6829[I'm not] sure cause I used to- like I said, math, I loved math.1134.3261 
758 1135.3260I loved- I loved school.1136.7762
760 1137.3450I still love being at school.1138.9164 
761VLD_int_011139.3773Oh we know.1139.9085
762VLD_se0_ag3_f_011140.1773Even when they fight. I love- I wanna jump in the fight. Let me get in.1143.2082
764 1143.5847[<laugh>]1145.8975 
765VLD_int_011143.5894[<laugh> Oh lord.]1145.8882
766 1146.2654You gonna be getting in enough fights.1147.8746
768 1148.5693Um, so,1149.7945 
770 1150.1396the other question I wanna ask you is- Okay so, now we've1153.2164 
772 1153.3565left middle school, did co- the- not the coach, the teacher had a really-1156.2980 
774 1156.5686that1156.8157 
776 1156.9742[letter]1157.3892 
777VLD_se0_ag3_f_011157.2354[But],1157.4359
778VLD_int_011157.5338[/That he caught you-/1158.2939
779VLD_se0_ag3_f_011157.5524[But that was coach] that was- [he was a coach he was a football] [coach I -think]. Mm-hm.1161.1959
780VLD_int_011158.8347[He- he was a coach?]1159.8419
782 1160.1823[Okay.]1160.7512 
783 1161.2361So he had a impact when he said that to you. [Just because] he was a coach that meant-1164.5643
784VLD_se0_ag3_f_011163.0255[Well just-]1163.3613
785VLD_int_011165.3850That made it different. Because he knew how to talk to athletes?1168.7318
787 1169.6271Do you think that made it different. Like as oppo- if he wasn't a coach that wouldn't have-1172.2196 
789 1172.4155it wouldn't have mattered to y- Not mattered, but it wouldn't have had the same1175.3613 
791 1175.4872it wouldn't have resonated with you the same way?1177.2218 
792VLD_se0_ag3_f_011178.4994Again, I mean just s- still thinking of the teachers that I've had. Ms. /RD-NAME-3/,1183.1332
794 1183.7860all- Ms. /RD-NAME-2/, all the-1185.2401 
796 1185.3583like every teacher I've mentioned. My art teacher, they all had an impact on me. I love-1189.5829 
798 1189.9678Even when they were1190.5973 
800 1190.8305so called, mean or tough,1192.2980 
802 1193.0162I loved them.1193.9068 
803VLD_int_011195.9025But I mean that- that whole moment about you're a student athlete. You're- don't cuss this girl- don't1200.2426
805 1200.6156say cuss words or whatever.1201.7197 
807 1201.8765I didn't know he was a coach. I just-1203.1005 
809 1203.7805It was a slip, but I didn't realize he was a coach.1205.8283 
810VLD_se0_ag3_f_011207.0306I don't know, I just think that he- I mean, I didn't get into trouble, which I-1209.8132
812 1210.2655I didn't get into trouble, I didn't go to the office, I didn't get suspended, whatever.1213.6694 
814 1214.1590Which I have spent a couple days in.1215.7164 
816 1216.3308What is it called? ESS?1217.7343 
818 1218.0560ISS?1218.8907 
819VLD_int_011219.2964Oh [mm-hm.]1219.8041
820VLD_se0_ag3_f_011219.6134[A] after school detention. I'm not even quite sure for what, cause I was not a bad student.1223.3976
821 1224.5213And that's why I can't understand why I got whoopings.1226.4547
823 1226.5682Cause I was not a bad child.1228.0173 
825 1228.9499But my sister was.1230.1576 
827 1230.8850And that maybe1231.6544 
829 1232.2712the reason.1232.8295 
831 1233.6303I was in ISS.1234.8054 
833 1236.2182My sister,1236.8617 
834VLD_int_011237.9062We getting into some deep seated [/??/ issues.]1239.7460
835VLD_se0_ag3_f_011239.3459[I know] I'm thinking on this stuff right now. (laughing)1241.9431
836 1242.6099Okay what's your next [question?]1244.1254
837VLD_int_011243.8596[So,] going to high school,1245.3319
838VLD_se0_ag3_f_011246.2691Mm-hm.1246.6655
839VLD_int_011246.6888You went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High [School.]1247.9751
840VLD_se0_ag3_f_011247.8172[Absolutely.]1248.5260
841 1249.8269Home of the marching cats.1251.0941
842VLD_int_011251.2293Yes. Pride and power of South Georgia.1253.2996
844 1253.5794Love that.1254.1809 
845VLD_se0_ag3_f_011254.2421Hm.1254.4141
847 1254.6192Was the football team good when you were there?1255.9948 
849 1256.2874Absolutely. Our football team was great, but whether they won or l- lost,1260.0830 
851 1260.5306they still were awesome.1261.5891 
853 1261.8596Cause I- I mean that was nineteen /blah blah/.1264.2785 
855 1265.0308And it were wonderful.1266.1352 
856VLD_int_011267.7010Did they w-1268.1533
858 1268.5532did you get any state championships while you were in high school?1271.0199 
859VLD_se0_ag3_f_011271.1597Before I graduated, yes. After I graduated, yes.1275.0848
861 1275.6163[Several] times, [yes.]1277.2250 
862VLD_int_011275.7003[Oh.]1275.9800
864 1276.9406[Really?]1277.2483 
865VLD_se0_ag3_f_011277.3323Yes.1277.9058
866VLD_int_011278.0690Mm.1278.3861
868 1278.5353I didn't-1278.7731 
870 1278.9503So how was [the- At the]1280.2093 
871VLD_se0_ag3_f_011279.3420[Right the school- the f-]1280.1067
872VLD_int_011280.4366[The football] team. [Yeah. How was the] atmosphere?1282.3904
873VLD_se0_ag3_f_011280.4844[Yeah.]1280.9960
875 1281.2713[And then the f-]1281.8296 
876 1282.5163I mean,1282.9639
877VLD_int_011283.2856Was [it?]1283.7426
878VLD_se0_ag3_f_011283.5468[uh]1283.7100
879 1284.0970what do you [mean how was the-]1285.1275
880VLD_int_011284.6519[Like was it] exciting. I mean when you were there, as a student.1287.7469
881VLD_se0_ag3_f_011287.9707Always. From ninth grade being so awkward and odd. And1291.7383
883 1291.8969You know, your body changing and growing. And1294.1292 
885 1294.6841you know,1295.1038 
887 1295.4022the groups, the clicks. And1297.0249 
889 1297.4632it is so odd now that I look at it thinking about the /gloop-/ groups and the clicks.1300.9033 
891 1302.1809Like in high school,1303.2348 
893 1303.3416it doesn't matter if your father was1305.3302 
895 1306.0453not in your life. Or your father was a doctor or the mayor. Like you all were1310.4378 
897 1310.7677the same.1311.3785 
899 1311.8681Like we were all in the same classes.1313.8219 
901 1314.2602Do you know what I'm [saying.] Like we were all treated the s- at least I felt that way- treated the same.1317.9614 
902VLD_int_011314.7172[Mm.]1315.0762
903VLD_se0_ag3_f_011318.4137But once you graduated,1319.6027
905 1319.8435life does not treat you the same.1321.4679 
907 1322.6698At least, I don't think so.1323.9287 
908VLD_int_011324.7378So high school's very different from like-1326.3851
910 1326.6563[High] school is a very different microcosm from the real world. Like it was a very different-1330.0245 
911VLD_se0_ag3_f_011326.6733[But-]1326.9620
913 1330.0245It- and it still is.1331.2359 
914 1331.4737Except now, high school1333.1431
916 1333.8281has at least three1335.7019 
918 1336.8114maybe more microcosms within the1339.2281 
920 1340.4961/hotal-/1340.9198 
922 1341.0900total1341.5746 
924 1341.7548subset1342.6472 
926 1343.1793known [as],1343.9379 
927VLD_int_011343.8247[Mm.]1344.1360
928VLD_se0_ag3_f_011344.3058/RD-SCHOOL-3/ High.1345.5224
930 1346.4338Do [you understand what I'm saying?]1347.4245 
931VLD_int_011346.6886[What- mm-hm.]1347.4301
932VLD_se0_ag3_f_011347.7471Because we have like, the so called, honest kids.1350.0398
934 1350.3285But they all are not honest kid- but they are p- predominantly-1353.1131 
936 1353.4698are majority a certain race.1355.0378 
938 1355.6790And like their parents don't want them to1357.4658 
939VLD_int_011358.9433Intermingle?1359.5603
940VLD_se0_ag3_f_011359.6735Yeah, with the other kids.1361.0378
942 1361.3120Which those kids who are supposedly to be- Like everybody's college prep.1364.6603 
944 1365.5660And-1366.1547 
946 1366.6246but everybody's not college prep.1368.3455 
947VLD_int_011368.4921Right.1368.7469
948VLD_se0_ag3_f_011369.1375And our principal she's in the game of1371.1641
950 1371.3113graduating1372.1242 
952 1372.2376students,1372.8567 
954 1373.1907that doesn't mean educating students.1375.0304 
956 1375.2733It doesn't mean they're prepared.1376.5086 
958 1376.9490You [understand?]1377.8094 
959VLD_int_011377.3452[Mm-hm.]1377.7975
960VLD_se0_ag3_f_011378.1491So isn- for a lot of people- Oh it's the numbers and they get all excited.1381.2733
962 1381.5675But for me, it's about making that individual1383.8264 
964 1385.0152contact, more than just a contact. Just a-1387.4601 
966 1388.4395It's more than just responsibility cause I have a responsibility, /for/ that student. Even though that student is thirteen, fourteen1393.5337 
968 1393.9017definitely has a responsibility sitting in my classroom as well.1396.6133 
970 1397.1907And I just jumped subjects. I didn't mean to do that cause we started on Valdosta High [School.]1400.8584 
971VLD_int_011400.5753[Mm], but that's- but you still talking about /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School.1402.8680
972VLD_se0_ag3_f_011402.8793Yeah, but now in a different-1404.0511
974 1404.5035co- I'm saying as a- as a classroom teacher.1406.9150 
975VLD_int_011407.7415But still very relevant because I think1409.4850
977 1409.8869it's interesting how you just made that connection right. Because I think it shows-1413.0112 
979 1413.6113thinking about how y- how you got into education, or how you- or even thinking about your own journey as a1419.3059 
981 1419.6962educator.1420.6302 
982VLD_se0_ag3_f_011420.6585I've always been an educator. That's the sad part about it.1423.5337
984 1425.1301Don't- Haven't you realized [that?]1426.5736 
985VLD_int_011426.2849[Mm.] You have.1427.2416
986VLD_se0_ag3_f_011427.3435And I'm always spending my- Well my- s- my free time1430.3942
988 1430.8131with kids.1431.6679 
990 1431.9906You know open up the che- Come on kids, what do we got- I don't know. Come let's do something.1435.9357 
992 1436.3659You know I'm thinking. Why did I spend all my- I could be putting my [ideas] into1439.8983 
993VLD_int_011439.1001[Mm.]1439.4341
994VLD_se0_ag3_f_011440.5035some money making things, but1442.0206
996 1442.6017this is my investment.1443.8228 
997VLD_int_011444.5453It is. I think when it's your1446.3002
998VLD_se0_ag3_f_011447.1431[Passion.]1447.6017
999VLD_int_011447.5620[Passion.]1447.9640
1000VLD_se0_ag3_f_011447.9526[Absolutely.]1448.6036
1001VLD_int_011448.5697[You] follow the passion, not the paycheck.1449.9906
1002VLD_se0_ag3_f_011449.9906Absolutely.1450.7774
1003 1451.0605And I have a friend now. She has so many degrees. And all she talks about is,1454.7282
1005 1455.1384oh I can't wait til I start making this amount of money.1457.5416 
1007 1457.9152And for me,1458.5889 
1009 1458.9280it's n-1459.4375 
1011 1459.6017If the money comes, wonderful. Is it- if it doesn't,1461.9906 
1013 1462.4208I'm still going to survive.1463.6809 
1015 1464.7870It's not about a bigger house, bigger car, whatever,1467.3056 
1017 1467.5717it's not.1468.3076 
1019 1469.7681But if I have a kid in my classroom, who doesn't have on shoes,1472.9716 
1021 1474.4095or has on,1475.2020 
1023 1475.4624two different pairs of shoes.1477.1886 
1025 1478.1451Or have stuff smeared across his shirt,1480.1774 
1027 1481.4567or has1481.9945 
1029 1482.9337other kids picking on him. No, that can't happen.1485.8321 
1031 1487.0378So they gonna bully, I'll be the biggest bully, cause that's not allowed.1490.0036 
1033 1492.3359What?1492.8736 
1034VLD_int_011493.2812I'm just listening.1494.0568
1035VLD_se0_ag3_f_011494.7525Oh I'm not used to that. You're supposed to be1496.2629
1037 1496.3863jumping in and saying stuff. (laughing)1498.0868 
1039 1498.7208J- raising your hand. W-1499.8586 
1041 1500.0511Can I go to the bathroom. (laughing) [<laugh>]1501.5451 
1042VLD_int_011501.5507Oh, [sorry.]1502.3829
1043VLD_se0_ag3_f_011502.0149[This is] not important to me. (laughing)1503.7641
1044VLD_int_011504.1943But it is. [It's very- it's very important] to me.1506.8544
1045VLD_se0_ag3_f_011504.6982[Oh, well it's important to me.]1506.2096
1046VLD_int_011507.2960But I think, also, because I love the classroom too. And I think-1510.3302
1048 1510.6642And I told you this before, I think my1512.5379 
1050 1512.8375joy of learning1513.9300 
1052 1514.4508came from you.1515.2234 
1054 1515.3735Like you were the-1516.1717 
1056 1516.4095Who did I see in my life that was a teacher?1518.2832 
1057VLD_se0_ag3_f_011519.4658I was not a teacher.1520.8301
1058VLD_int_011520.9603But you were- w-1521.5239
1060 1521.6607but-1522.0110 
1062 1522.1912what did you just [say? You've always, always] been an educator, isn't that what you just said?1525.8168 
1063VLD_se0_ag3_f_011522.6868[I was an educator.]1524.2040
1064VLD_int_011526.3149You've [always been an educator. And who did I-] who did I see-1529.3435
1065VLD_se0_ag3_f_011526.5131[Oh lord, /I'm'a gonna die/] (whispered)1528.5623
1066 1529.7341All these wonderful educators that were in your life, when you were in the /RD-SCHOOL-3/ city school system.1534.0930
1067VLD_int_011535.3007But [before I was in the-] before I was [in the school system.]1537.7114
1068VLD_se0_ag3_f_011535.4639[And- and before-]1536.3638
1070 1536.7695[before-]1537.2078 
1072 1537.4922[before] you were in the school system. You're mom.1539.7444 
1073 1539.8925I have to tell you,1540.7505
1075 1541.2354the biggest educator and supporter you have, believe it or not1544.3595 
1076VLD_int_011545.1511[Right. But- but it was a different- it] was a different kind of way.1547.9721
1077VLD_se0_ag3_f_011545.3842[I'll have to tell you, don't you-]1546.8903
1078 1548.0937No, even with you being tested for gifted,1550.3404
1080 1550.7652and how they tried to, oh, we can't do this. Oh, it costs this, whatever,1554.5317 
1082 1554.9374and your mom kept on pushing, pushing and calling til they had you tested1558.0988 
1084 1558.5686at the college.1559.4592 
1086 1560.5174You don't even know that, do you?1561.6974 
1087VLD_int_011562.1497I remember the day at s-1563.3235
1089 1563.4036um, at /RD-SCHOOL-4/,1565.1686 
1091 1565.5290and I was sick. And that was the only day1567.9026 
1093 1568.3922that they could do the [test.]1570.1827 
1094VLD_se0_ag3_f_011569.6978[Mm-hm.]1570.2247
1095VLD_int_011570.4754And I remember I was sick. And that was the only day1574.0611
1097 1574.7326and I'm like, we can't reschedule [this?]1576.6386 
1098VLD_se0_ag3_f_011576.2515[And doesn't that] bother you? Like,1577.8369
1099 1578.7369why did they give you such a-1579.9259
1101 1580.1357I mean there are so many kids that would have that /hurry/.1582.5919 
1103 1583.3193Honors,1583.9908 
1105 1584.7788and it came from when they were in elementary school, or whatever but they still have that tag.1588.2853 
1107 1588.4054You know, when they're in high school.1589.5478 
1109 1590.1680Well why do you think they gave you such a hard time?1592.5740 
1111 1594.4520Do you ever think about that?1595.4219 
1113 1595.9115Like that [still bothers me.]1597.1892 
1114VLD_int_011596.3312[I don't think I-] I don't have to think about it. I feel like I know why they gave me a hard time.1600.5313
1115 1601.1794I mean, in my class1602.9245
1117 1603.1314of what? There were like ten of us?1605.0170 
1119 1605.5661In my class there were two black students. I don't- I don't-1607.9488 
1121 1608.2799We're still in the very deep south. We're still in the time when1610.9284 
1123 1611.1849racism is very much alive. I don't feel like I need to think about- even-1614.4617 
1125 1614.8441even when I was very young, I don't- I don't know if I could necessarily articulate it in that way.1618.7365 
1127 1619.4499But I knew something was1620.6840 
1129 1620.8374different.1621.5482 
1130VLD_se0_ag3_f_011621.9632At the same time, those teachers from the high school, And at three- that I- well two right now I could name Ms. /RD-NAME-2/1627.5715
1132 1628.0425and Mr. /RD-NAME-1/1628.9136 
1134 1629.0504think very highly of you. And they both are caucasian.1631.8136 
1135VLD_int_011633.0539Right.1633.3430
1136VLD_se0_ag3_f_011634.0098And I don't even know how they knew- Well I knew Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ knew you,1636.7318
1137VLD_int_011636.7365I didn't- Mr.- I had him for one [class.]1639.0399
1138VLD_se0_ag3_f_011638.8721[But] immediately when you had your stroke,1640.9191
1139 1641.2502Ms.- Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ talk- Oh, oh Minnie that, huh.1643.8649
1141 1644.2752That was twent-1644.8637 
1143 1645.0172that was two thousand years ago.1646.9144 
1145 1647.3563Okay, sorry. (laughing)1649.2634 
1147 1649.9488How did- how did you know her? Wait- you- what?1652.6253 
1149 1652.8725Okay, [well that's why.]1653.5999 
1150VLD_int_011652.9890[But I had her for-]1654.1268
1151 1654.5220Because she [was a year- I had her for two years. Yep.]1657.2358
1152VLD_se0_ag3_f_011655.1142[I know, two years cause-] yeah I know, yeah.1658.4342
1153VLD_int_011658.8818[But we also had like breakfast] and we- our class was real special.1661.9504
1154VLD_se0_ag3_f_011659.0310[I'm just saying-]1659.9309
1155VLD_int_011663.2222[But we also-]1663.8144
1156VLD_se0_ag3_f_011663.2269[And she's still] there.1664.6444
1157VLD_int_011665.0687She retired and came back.1666.5842
1158VLD_se0_ag3_f_011666.6774Right.1667.2043
1159VLD_int_011667.6799That's how you do it.1668.5193
1160VLD_se0_ag3_f_011668.5741And she's teacher of the- Not teacher of the month, teacher of the year. She's star teacher, again.1673.1437
1161VLD_int_011673.4981Oh, who?1674.2581
1162VLD_se0_ag3_f_011674.7488/RD-NAME-3/1675.6325
1163VLD_int_011675.8284Mm.1676.1781
1165 1677.3811Wow.1677.6935 
1166VLD_se0_ag3_f_011678.5981But in a way [we digress. But was kind of still on topic.]1681.1056
1167VLD_int_011679.2416[Oh we did. Okay, so back to-] back to high school- back to high- okay.1682.5931
1168VLD_se0_ag3_f_011682.6071[Oh],1682.8542
1169VLD_int_011682.7796[So],1683.0920
1170 1683.2273okay, so when you got to high school, did you play sports?1685.5400
1171VLD_se0_ag3_f_011685.6286Absolutely.1686.4120
1172VLD_int_011686.5507Did you maintain- Was it track and basketball [as well?]1688.5931
1173VLD_se0_ag3_f_011688.4485[Absolutely.]1689.2133
1174VLD_int_011689.2366Were you good?1689.8521
1175VLD_se0_ag3_f_011690.3697I was okay.1691.2707
1176VLD_int_011692.4307How okay were you?1693.1243
1177VLD_se0_ag3_f_011693.1233Our team was not okay. [<laugh>]1695.6049
1178VLD_int_011694.7423[<laugh>]1696.0106
1179VLD_se0_ag3_f_011696.0246So, it- so I was about to say, no, we were not okay cause-1698.7617
1181 1699.2875And it was during that time, like1700.8635 
1183 1702.0619it's not like it is today where it's very competitive.1704.3887 
1185 1705.6092The people who coached1707.0967 
1187 1707.4697girls' basketball,1708.6821 
1189 1709.2883didn't really want- they didn't wanna coach girl- they didn't wanna coach girls basketball. It was just the principal said,1713.5117 
1191 1713.9360you do it.1714.5935 
1192VLD_int_011715.0598Mm.1715.2323
1193VLD_se0_ag3_f_011715.2276Cause coach /RD-NAME-2/, he was just like, he would sit on the bench. He wasn't tel- I don't know one play coach /RD-NAME-1/ has taught us yet.1721.3162
1194 1722.0065But anyway, the coach that was before him,1723.6758
1196 1724.4079awesome. But she left my ninth grade year, but it's because of her, that I got the scholarship in Florida.1728.8831 
1198 1729.2049For my ninth grade year. Can you believe that?1731.4058 
1199VLD_int_011731.9327Wow.1732.3150
1201 1732.9527So you're- okay, so, before we- we gonna come back to that, but before you- your- you- before your-1737.5084 
1203 1738.1099you went to college on a basketball scholarship.1741.0790 
1204VLD_se0_ag3_f_011741.3494That is correct.1742.0116
1205VLD_int_011742.3426Okay, so we'll come back to that in a second.1743.7928
1207 1744.0819Okay, how were you in track?1745.3537 
1208VLD_se0_ag3_f_011746.3609Oh I was- oh great. Cause it- my senior year,1748.9488
1210 1749.2332I mean, coach /RD-NAME-4/ would say,1751.1019 
1212 1751.5449okay we can put1752.4308 
1214 1752.9484twenty points right here, cause she knows I'm gonna get first place in two events.1756.6927 
1216 1757.4097She knew that.1758.1184 
1217VLD_int_011758.4961Do you still hold the school record?1759.7271
1218VLD_se0_ag3_f_011760.0349I do, did you know that?1761.2939
1219VLD_int_011761.2939I [do.]1761.6740
1220VLD_se0_ag3_f_011761.6203[That] just bother- I mean just like, wow okay [s-]1763.7221
1221VLD_int_011763.6242[Every] time I go to the gym I always look at the thing and see if your name is still there.1766.8916
1222VLD_se0_ag3_f_011767.0094Where do you look?1767.7228
1223VLD_int_011767.9700It's on the-1768.3663
1225 1768.7708I don't know if it's still up [there, but it's on the board. Up on the thing. Mm-hm.]1771.9603 
1226VLD_se0_ag3_f_011769.7292[Used to be on the back s- yeah. Mm-hm.]1771.9416
1227VLD_int_011773.0048I was like, I know her.1773.9373
1228VLD_se0_ag3_f_011774.2544Uh.1774.7347
1230 1774.9714Well when I go through1775.8093 
1232 1775.9761the front of the school and I see that picture of you, And you're with the president of Georgia.1779.6995 
1234 1779.7835[<laugh>]1780.1425 
1235VLD_int_011779.7881[<laugh>]1780.1332
1236VLD_se0_ag3_f_011780.4817Was it a president?1781.4097
1237VLD_int_011781.6568I think [governor.]1782.2397
1238VLD_se0_ag3_f_011782.1557[Governor], oh governor.1783.2375
1239 1784.0980Youth governor.1784.8627
1241 1785.1073Yeah. yes.1786.0866 
1243 1786.4025I'm like, I know her. (laughing)1787.6055 
1245 1788.0998I'm related.1788.6407 
1247 1789.0510[<laugh>]1791.8250 
1248VLD_int_011789.0510[<laugh>]1792.1099
1249VLD_se0_ag3_f_011792.7056[<sigh> <laugh>]1794.4402
1250VLD_int_011793.0226[Okay. So, okay.]1794.4355
1251 1794.8132Um, so high school was pretty good.1796.5012
1252VLD_se0_ag3_f_011797.1167I didn't have- other than just being odd, I didn't really have any1800.1511
1254 1800.3562problems. I mean I didn't go to anything u-1802.3380 
1256 1802.6177You know, I'm saying odd, like1803.9187 
1258 1806.0718I just stayed to myself,1807.2450 
1260 1807.3785except for sports.1808.4499 
1262 1809.1819I didn't1809.5363 
1264 1810.2066you know,1810.9387 
1266 1811.4330I come- go to school, come home.1813.4147 
1268 1813.8996That's about it.1814.6224 
1270 1815.2985I didn't do any dances1816.8699 
1272 1817.4749anything like that. that's why I get so excited now to do the prom.1820.0908 
1274 1820.5105Which my picture is over there on your mom's shelf.1822.5517 
1276 1822.8828I went to the prom that's my first year, yes.1825.3821 
1277VLD_int_011826.6970I [didn't know you] didn't go to prom.1827.9187
1278VLD_se0_ag3_f_011826.8276[What?]1827.2286
1279 1828.9340No, cause I didn't- I wasn't gonna say- ask anything, or say anything about prom, prom dresses. We didn't-1834.0772
1281 1835.0879Nobody had to say that we didn't have money for you to know you don't have money.1838.6923 
1283 1840.9294So why would I ask for stuff like that?1842.7572 
1285 1843.7737So, no. I don't wanna go. I'm good. I'm fine.1846.0819 
1287 1846.5097And who would I go with?1847.8247 
1288VLD_int_011848.7153Go by yourself.1849.9323
1289VLD_se0_ag3_f_011851.4850Next subject.1852.2404
1290VLD_int_011853.8340Okay so you got the scholarship to go to [college.]1856.5804
1291VLD_se0_ag3_f_011856.1841[Oh, no] it was kind of odd cause I just happened to be in a Valdosta mall. I'm not even sure why I was in a mall, cause I am not a shopper.1862.2214
1292 1862.8649And I saw coach.1864.1565
1293VLD_int_011864.7605Mm.1865.0786
1294VLD_se0_ag3_f_011865.5309/RD-NAME-3/, I can't even think of her last name now. Just slipped my mind, sorry.1868.7110
1296 1869.3824And I was like, oh hey coach. And she was like, hey /RD-NAME-3/, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it was just like a few minutes and she told me the lady's name.1875.5643 
1298 1876.0446And told me she would be contacting me. I was like well, okay and I didn't really think anything of it.1879.4473 
1300 1879.9789And they sent it to /the/ me in the mail, at school. And it was the whole little,1883.8247 
1302 1884.3236you know, full scholarship.1885.8623 
1304 1886.4359Blah, blah, blah, sign here, sign there. And most people w- you have a-1889.6428 
1306 1890.3562you know how you sign- when they have a signing day and all that?1892.7520 
1307VLD_int_011892.7530[Mm-hm.]1893.2426
1308VLD_se0_ag3_f_011892.9489[I-] I just signed mine on the bus. We were going to some-1895.4749
1309 1896.9624I don't know if it was a basketball game, or a track meet. I can't remember now.1900.1378
1311 1900.5563I just signed it1901.3545 
1313 1902.9950and put it back in the- Cause I didn't really think anything of it.1905.3498 
1314VLD_int_011907.2604Were you- were you the first one to go to college1909.3774
1316 1909.7271in your family?1910.6037 
1317VLD_se0_ag3_f_011911.6156What do you mean, my family?1912.7440
1318VLD_int_011913.7034Like,1914.4215
1320 1915.2981your immediate family, like in your household at that time.1917.3778 
1321VLD_se0_ag3_f_011918.2812Oh, uh, yeah.1919.0646
1322VLD_int_011920.4495And it wasn't a big deal?1921.4986
1323VLD_se0_ag3_f_011922.0255It was not a big deal. It was just another thing, just like,1924.2124
1325 1924.5797when you left elementary school to go to middle school, it's like, oh no, I wanna stay back. I don't wanna go to middle school, or junior high school.1930.0725 
1327 1930.5563And once it's time to leave junior high school and go to high school, oh no, let me stay back. I can't go to high school.1934.6364 
1329 1935.0281You know so many people or whatever. And you get there and you do just fine.1937.7967 
1331 1938.1392Then you go onto the next thing. The thing I have not been able to accomplish,1941.1586 
1333 1941.5316is that master's degree.1942.9432 
1335 1943.5962<clap>1943.7734 
1336VLD_int_011944.8365Why not?1945.2328
1337VLD_se0_ag3_f_011946.4778That is a great question.1947.7788
1338VLD_int_011948.1973Hm. So glad I asked it.1949.5169
1339VLD_se0_ag3_f_011949.8619I just don't have all the answers right now.1952.4265
1340VLD_int_011952.4825Hm.1952.6737
1341VLD_se0_ag3_f_011953.3218If at- for a time,1955.1392
1343 1955.5962money. Cause I- And I just realized,1957.5826 
1345 1958.1281I spent a lot of time on1960.0725 
1347 1961.4728my lessons that I teach, preparing my lessons. Thinking about how my kids are going to get it.1965.5829 
1349 1966.0166Like one day we even had a fire drill. And just for them following the directions and doing what we're supposed to do.1970.0187 
1351 1970.3752And I was like, And you get a car, and you get a car. I was opening up the AC.1973.4050 
1353 1973.8107And you get a car, it's like, oh is she gonna get us a car?1975.7924 
1355 1976.1934And so I'm not very, uh,1978.0213 
1357 1978.4677artistic, I guess.1979.8190 
1359 1980.2490But when my mind gets to working, well I can do some things. So I'll put together little chocolate cars for them.1984.4129 
1361 1984.8921And so they had- we had the little raffles and they got the little1987.4893 
1363 1987.9090chocolate car. Which was a big deal. It was fun for me.1990.3523 
1364VLD_int_011993.0883And,1993.6428
1365VLD_se0_ag3_f_011993.7597<laugh>1995.4197
1366VLD_int_011995.5037But I remember we were working on a [project. I remember] this project we were working on- well you were working on a project, but-2000.1095
1367VLD_se0_ag3_f_011996.6981[Oh god] (whispered)1997.6073
1368VLD_int_012000.4452but I was- You let me read it or something.2002.1425
1370 2002.6263And you had to do your- like your-2004.0578 
1372 2004.3562your teaching statement. And your, like2006.6749 
1374 2006.8183your2007.1020 
1376 2007.2955your pedagogical statement, or something.2008.9871 
1378 2009.1615Do you remember this?2009.9086 
1379VLD_se0_ag3_f_012009.9459Mm-mm.2010.8038
1380VLD_int_012010.8272Anyway, I remember you talking about always being,2012.7203
1382 2013.0047the same thing you just said a few minutes ago about being an educator,2015.7873 
1384 2016.2350um, and that it's not-2017.4380 
1386 2017.7131and that-2018.1001 
1388 2018.2820not about-2018.7856 
1390 2018.9861about more than about teaching, but being an educator. And making sure that a young- touching a young person's life.2023.5686 
1392 2024.4545And this [/stuff-/]2025.0047 
1393VLD_se0_ag3_f_012024.8462[I] said those [words?]2026.0446
1394VLD_int_012025.9886[Mm-hm]2026.2264
1395VLD_se0_ag3_f_012026.3325I don't think so.2027.1578
1396VLD_int_012027.7780I wish I could,2028.3562
1398 2028.6873/use/ it . [You typed] it up and gave it to me. It wasn't-2031.1959 
1399VLD_se0_ag3_f_012029.1909[Because-]2029.7877
1400VLD_int_012031.7321This is like really before email was like a [big thing. So, I couldn't say I'll look up on my email and- and send] it back to you.2038.0585
1401VLD_se0_ag3_f_012033.7407[<laugh>]2037.0887
1402 2038.1460[Oh.]2038.9760
1403VLD_int_012038.7149[But] like I was here.2040.1837
1404 2040.4308And I remember- the reason I rem- the reason this m- stands out to me is because2043.6809
1406 2043.9688in two thousand2045.1392 
1408 2046.1510six,2046.8505 
1410 2047.2515I had to take a class. I did, foundations of education.2050.4316 
1412 2050.9527And we had to write our teaching philosophy.2053.4660 
1414 2053.7364And so I remember, my- my- my portfolio was themed around Dr. Seuss, but my teaching philosophy was about2058.7199 
1416 2058.9437the gift of education.2060.0675 
1418 2060.5384And I remember talking about you,2062.4596 
1420 2062.8734giving me that gift.2064.0345 
1422 2064.4355And exposing me to like, the2066.1561 
1424 2066.3100power of [education.]2067.3824 
1425VLD_se0_ag3_f_012066.7343[Going to the plays.] Okay /RD-NAME-2/ let's go to the play. [/You supposed to say/] when?2070.2769
1426VLD_int_012069.4563[Yes.]2069.9738
1427VLD_se0_ag3_f_012070.6205They have /RD-NAME-3/ come on /RD-NAME-3/, we're going to the play.2072.6948
1428VLD_int_012072.7716Exactly.2073.3265
1429VLD_se0_ag3_f_012073.5783[<laugh>]2074.9432
1430VLD_int_012073.5829[But- but it's those moments] right? When you're teaching. [And when you're-]2077.3401
1431VLD_se0_ag3_f_012076.8225[I'm not] teaching. That's just living life, come on, let's go.2080.0725
1432VLD_int_012080.1786Right, but when other kids are just going to the park, or2082.9437
1434 2083.3028going to get ice cream. Those are moments,2085.1234 
1436 2085.2230like /RD-NAME-3/ was like2086.3756 
1438 2086.6915we went- we saw it on the big screen, no. The big- n- the big TV. [The big, big TV, right? So she didn't have] the word for movie.2092.8186 
1439VLD_se0_ag3_f_012089.8670[<laugh>]2092.1518
1440VLD_int_012093.1252But she remembers about the cars and they were eating. And2095.7691
1442 2096.0209like so, that moment meant something,2097.9189 
1444 2098.1391you know.2098.6041 
1446 2098.9107And so those are the moments that you think about. You go back, and I remember going to see Cat on a Hot Tin Roof and-2104.1833 
1447VLD_se0_ag3_f_012104.2765You did not see that [with me. I promise you I did not see-]2107.0541
1448VLD_int_012105.3678[I did because see it because we talked about Maggie.]2107.4100
1449 2108.0928We talked- I know we did.2109.2725
1450VLD_se0_ag3_f_012109.3425I don't think so.2110.3636
1451VLD_int_012110.5641I know we did.2111.2610
1453 2111.8791Um,2112.3734 
1455 2112.9982but other- like those moments, those experiences.2115.5197 
1456VLD_se0_ag3_f_012116.0559And then we did it again at [/RD-SCHOOL-4/.]2118.1942
1457VLD_int_012117.3242[/RD-SCHOOL-4/] we [went to Steel Magnolias] and we ate at Steel Magnolias.2121.1933
1458VLD_se0_ag3_f_012118.5132[/for, ever/]2119.2826
1459 2121.5383<clap>2121.7808
1461 2122.2890[<laugh>]2123.0771 
1462VLD_int_012122.9418[And so], those are moments that you know, you realize that it's something that you-2126.5509
1463 2126.7143you, do. It's not simply- it's not simply, oh I'm a teacher. It's not wh- it's not simply just,2131.3106
1465 2131.5699This is my profession though, this is my way of [living this is-]2134.4337 
1466VLD_se0_ag3_f_012133.8789[It is.] And it's not just, oh summer vacation. Woo I'm off. Nah, it's not like that.2138.9958
1467VLD_int_012139.8959Cause even now you're still thinking about, well what can I do next year to make it better.2143.0051
1469 2143.1485I know you are. [I know you are.] Cause I know- I know-2146.1619 
1470VLD_se0_ag3_f_012144.0051[<laugh>]2144.9335
1471VLD_int_012146.9318I know what you're-2147.8489
1473 2148.4829How you're wired. So it's always about, how can I-2150.6844 
1475 2150.9279Even the night you were talking to me about, how can I teach them about,2153.2658 
1477 2154.3357um, was it grammar [and-]2155.7962 
1478VLD_se0_ag3_f_012155.5126[The Standard] American English.2157.0128
1479 2157.1543And- but then I got into, oh, this is how they say it in the South. And this is how they say it in the North and the Midwest and the-2162.6648
1481 2163.1543And it just went-2164.0431 
1483 2164.5072It was too much.2165.2998 
1485 2165.8036It was2166.1432 
1487 2166.8791units.2167.4355 
1489 2167.5689It wasn't instead of just a lesson. When I just wanted to-2169.7147 
1491 2170.3714Cause language is so2171.6224 
1493 2174.3764I don't know the word. Evocative and yet, evasive.2176.6205 
1494VLD_int_012177.0677Hm.2177.5998
1496 2178.0583Ooh.2178.3470 
1498 2178.7546Yes.2179.2924 
1499VLD_se0_ag3_f_012179.3360Or maybe provocative. You know?2181.1090
1500VLD_int_012181.6128Mm-hm.2182.1449
1502 2182.9431That's deep.2183.4696 
1503VLD_se0_ag3_f_012184.2564It is.2185.0716
1505 2185.6655And it's not just about-2186.8599 
1507 2187.8902Okay, let me-2188.5072 
1509 2189.2828I was,2189.9677 
1511 2190.2564again, I think I told you, just dealing with my health. And I just came from a doctor or whatever.2194.0827 
1513 2194.7110Thinking about,2195.4413 
1515 2196.7320I guess I said, my career.2198.3113 
1517 2198.8543Or just thinking about life.2200.1336 
1519 2200.4506And I wanna say that life is not just these six blocks that we live. Like, you [asked me about] the neighborhood.2205.0352 
1520VLD_int_012203.8472[Mm.]2204.4076
1521 2205.2111[Ntozake Shange.]2206.4190
1522VLD_se0_ag3_f_012205.4034[But then again],2206.1733
1523 2206.7167huh?2207.0394
1524VLD_int_012207.3734For Colored Girls.2208.3923
1525VLD_se0_ag3_f_012208.6301[But then again] it is.2210.0283
1526VLD_int_012208.6584[/unintelligible/.]2209.6547
1527 2210.2038Mm.2210.6340
1528VLD_se0_ag3_f_012211.1090Cause here I am.2212.0600
1530 2213.0450Not just sitting here, but it all comes back right here. Even the memories.2216.6000 
1532 2216.9788The people, the places.2218.3091 
1534 2218.7037Ay- you asked me about the neighbors. And I mentioned Ms. Sister earlier. Ms. Sister used to call grandmom, grandmother.2223.9164 
1536 2224.5844Grandmother, why? I'm elevated.2226.1128 
1538 2226.5430<laugh>2227.3695 
1540 2227.7884For us to come ove- For me, not my sister2230.2108 
1542 2230.7542to come over to go to the grocery store for her. And she always wanted some sizzling bacon.2234.7111 
1544 2235.3050When I got to the door,2236.4995 
1546 2237.0939she was butt naked.2238.8487 
1548 2239.2859/Hell/ am I supposed to do?2240.4770 
1550 2240.7559What am I supposed to say?2241.9164 
1552 2243.9600I just act like I didn't see it. Yes ma'am. You want some sizzling bacon? (laughing)2247.4867 
1554 2248.0523Say I'll be right back. <laugh>2251.0921 
1556 2251.4761Or we would play in the dirt, oh gosh I was thinking of all the fun just right there in the dirt.2255.6203 
1558 2256.5770Hopscotch and marbles and just, r- hitting a ball on top of the house, or something and she'd yell us,2261.2127 
1560 2261.6033y'all hitting up my- in my garage- not garage. What is that? car- car space.2266.1286 
1562 2266.3856She didn't [have a car, who] was gonna drive there?2268.7751 
1563VLD_int_012266.9806[Right, right.]2267.8468
1564 2269.3865[<laugh>]2269.8564
1565VLD_se0_ag3_f_012269.7997But she would just yell at us, but you- she loved us- cause I'd play christian music. Especially on Sunday.2274.0392
1566 2274.4525And she'd come out on porch, I love that song.2276.3602
1568 2276.5866I said, I love it too.2277.5546 
1570 2278.7089Mm-hm.2279.4052 
1572 2279.8864Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ and her kids, her husband,2281.7884 
1574 2282.2696when they moved across the street,2283.5999 
1576 2286.4694Ms. /RD-NAME-2/, I already mentioned Ms. /RD-NAME-2/.2288.5526 
1578 2290.5108Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ and her kids, talking about education, Ms. /RD-NAME-2/, she had summer school for us.2295.6905 
1580 2296.2164She had books,2297.1731 
1582 2297.4675were you- was she around then?2298.7185 
1584 2299.2167We would go up there, she would have food she had the tables all set. Right over there with her big plant kind of tree thing is. Yes.2305.6526 
1586 2306.0035That's one thing I loved about the neighborhood. I couldn't skate worth a thing. But I'd get out there, try to skate, we would race,2311.3582 
1588 2312.1111oh my goodness.2313.2376 
1590 2313.5937One day out there skating2314.7926 
1592 2314.9894and who came? I wanna say it was /RD-NAME-2/. That's Dot's brother.2317.8224 
1594 2318.2696Which you probably don't know him. He's from Tampa.2319.9900 
1596 2320.4146He was in the military. His car was parked right there in the little,2322.9506 
1598 2325.0697curve or driveway.2326.3378 
1600 2326.7284And so I couldn't curve to go up in the driveway to kind of stop on the grass. So what I did, curve flop.2332.3153 
1602 2332.5388Right on top of his car, okay.2334.0015 
1604 2334.5054Boom, so that was a talk2335.9319 
1606 2336.3734for a minute, but you can get all those stories from my sister.2338.8241 
1608 2339.2826Those were the days. Yes, Sheila, who was about this high, still this high, she has a three kids.2344.4675 
1610 2345.1071But just that-2345.9035 
1612 2346.0370that, power in her legs, skating.2348.3451 
1614 2348.8829Playing kickball in the street. All right y'all here come a car, get out the way. Okay, yes.2353.2356 
1616 2353.7677That was wonderful.2354.9565 
1618 2355.2277Kids today you gotta be worried, okay that got a gun, they carrying drugs dah dah dah dah.2359.0488 
1620 2359.6828And it's hard to see them as, they're still kids,2362.1810 
1622 2362.6189mm-hm-hm.2363.2826 
1624 2363.8261I have to say some adults are still kids.2365.9545 
1625VLD_int_012369.5543Mm.2369.8600
1626VLD_se0_ag3_f_012372.8654And they need somebody to tell them that it's okay that they need to talk.2376.3242
1628 2379.4768Not that the person that they're talking to can solve their problems, but to get it out.2383.0262 
1630 2383.5470The only reason I'm saying that,2384.8004 
1632 2384.9773I don't know why I'm saying that, but I'm'a say it to you,2387.3109 
1634 2387.8204I was in intensive care for three days.2389.9093 
1636 2390.7182You remember when I fell out,2391.8915 
1638 2392.1151in Walmart out there? When I went in and got the van- I said how did I get in that van. Big old van from2396.9961 
1640 2397.3143the airport out there. Getting a little2398.9599 
1642 2399.8827buckets for the beach. For them to- I want to make sand-2402.4074 
1644 2402.6112I have no kids, but I always have kids.2405.2713 
1645VLD_int_012405.2298[Mm-hm.]2405.6392
1646VLD_se0_ag3_f_012405.3845[I] birthed no kids, but I always have children.2408.1244
1647 2408.6282And so, getting a little game to take them to the beach.2411.1864
1649 2412.5054And all I remember is that my eyes,2414.8141 
1651 2416.8750It just looked like I was looking through a2418.4035 
1653 2419.9376kaleidoscope or something.2421.2339 
1655 2421.9467And I don't remember anything else. But the people in the store, on my little paperwork they had, it said I said,2426.3078 
1657 2427.0636what was it? Help me God, or help me Jesus, or something like that. But I didn't- Three days, I chewed up my tongue.2432.6848 
1659 2433.1258They couldn't figure out what- what-2434.0553 
1661 2434.2321well what was wrong? What's wrong with her? What's going on?2436.5733 
1663 2437.0148Neurologist, all this- Couldn't drive for six weeks.2439.6806 
1665 2440.1674Can you imagine, paying for a car, insurance, gas and all that. And you still have to wait on somebody else.2445.0414 
1667 2445.5844Woo my gosh. And it was my sister.2448.0015 
1669 2448.3638But anyway, (laughing)2449.2696 
1671 2449.6885<laugh>2450.4301 
1673 2451.3919but that was a lesson in- just a lesson in patience and that-2454.4901 
1675 2454.6102and that- again, the neurologist was just like,2456.3225 
1677 2457.2836That was /out/ right- right after my mom had passed and all that. And like, trying to be strong for everybody, you know, and nobody can't see me cry.2463.3924 
1679 2463.7485I told /RD-NAME-3/ yesterday. I haven't cried in a long time. What's wrong with me? I'm supposed to be crying everyday.2469.0527 
1681 2469.7202Well not everyday, but about something. No.2471.9619 
1683 2472.9243Maybe I'm wiser,2473.8413 
1685 2474.0904maybe I'm older. Maybe those things don't get to me like they used to, but2476.9883 
1687 2477.4015sometimes you just need to talk.2478.7941 
1689 2479.5922Just get it out.2480.3904 
1691 2480.8371Blah,2481.4571 
1693 2481.5806there it is.2482.2637 
1695 2483.3823Not to everybody.2484.4374 
1697 2485.5243some people- My sister,2486.7018 
1699 2487.5617who has not called me-2489.3053 
1701 2489.8034Wow when did they move? In January?2491.5753 
1703 2492.1357Which I didn't even know they were moving except2493.9183 
1705 2494.5354what is it, Christmas? I'm'a go over do a little- I call it a run by, drive by, go see- you know how you in spirit?2499.6640 
1706VLD_int_012499.9485[Mm-hm.]2500.2702
1707VLD_se0_ag3_f_012500.1070[Just] wanted to see what's going on. I drove up to Athens, I'm like, woah the house looks different. Stuff off the wall.2505.6733
1708 2506.3308And that's when they said they were moving. Okay.2508.2053
1710 2508.6949Well,2509.0172 
1712 2509.2274they moved.2509.8839 
1714 2510.9879/RD-NAME-2/ came to college, and it's something about his2513.7856 
1716 2514.3545housing. Where he didn't have a place to stay, so he stayed with me. Okay, no problem.2518.5367 
1718 2519.5059But long story short,2520.7882 
1720 2521.0633my sister, she was not communicating with me,2523.7106 
1722 2524.7411as I felt she should have.2526.2426 
1724 2526.9234So I said okay, well I'm gonna do the same thing.2529.2071 
1726 2529.7153But now, these past two weeks, she's called me almost every day. Last night she called me twelve o'clock.2534.4686 
1728 2535.2863Cause her dad told her2537.0769 
1730 2538.3125that2538.7136 
1732 2539.5984she needs to be more like me.2540.9786 
1734 2542.1443And that upset her.2543.0302 
1736 2543.7623I said, be more like me? What do you mean?2545.8979 
1738 2546.5123That when I was going to school,2548.0883 
1740 2548.9696when I was becoming a teacher,2550.3405 
1742 2550.7462that he knew nothing about it.2552.2103 
1744 2552.3071<laugh>2553.8179 
1746 2554.3308Y'all get it?2555.0209 
1748 2555.5105Like,2555.7530 
1750 2556.0129it- that- she- she shouldn't tell everybody all her business. She needs to be more like me and hold it in.2560.8531 
1752 2561.2960I said, /RD-NAME-2/ please. Don't be more like me.2563.4550 
1754 2563.9387Share your excitement. Like some- The test that she had to take, or whatever.2567.8929 
1756 2568.3405Like she was sharing that with him. And that's our dad. He should be happy, [but he said] she should be more like me and I'm just saying,2573.8696 
1757VLD_int_012571.5103[Mm.]2571.9274
1758VLD_se0_ag3_f_012574.4524the me you think I am,2575.7580
1760 2576.2139that's not me.2577.0578 
1762 2577.5195Let me tell you the real me.2578.8297 
1764 2580.4058And talk.2580.9136 
1766 2581.0904Shit.2581.4638 
1768 2583.9485Uh, okay I'm talking too much. (whispered)2585.6924 
1769VLD_int_012585.9768No.2586.4011
1771 2586.8534That was-2587.2918 
1772VLD_se0_ag3_f_012587.8641That was too much. (laughing) [I'm just] saying those were the-2589.8785
1773VLD_int_012589.0159[No.]2589.2024
1774VLD_se0_ag3_f_012590.4427Oh wow, I'm sorry. I'm all over the place.2592.8768
1776 2593.0994Uh, what's your lesson plan?2594.2465 
1778 2594.3817[<laugh>]2596.0557 
1779VLD_int_012594.7128[<laugh>]2595.3796
1781 2595.4728[What's my lesson] plan?2596.4520 
1782VLD_se0_ag3_f_012596.4847No, I'm just saying, what are we supposed to be talking about?2598.4804
1784 2599.2626It was just amazing cause I've always envied her. Cause she always seems to have2603.0675 
1786 2604.3079everything. I told you that.2606.2197 
1788 2606.3724I'm the older one2607.3936 
1790 2607.6733chronologically. Age wise, but she has done everything first.2611.0120 
1792 2611.6275And she has always been-2613.1418 
1794 2614.7038Of course she's the baby. So she is the-2616.6809 
1796 2619.0299I can't even think of the word. One is idolized. The one that's-2621.3473 
1798 2621.7763Oh,2622.4011 
1800 2622.6856and I'm the work horse.2623.7207 
1802 2624.1346And I- I- that's all I can- you know.2625.9065 
1804 2626.4520You don't know what I'm saying.2627.4121 
1806 2627.5356I can't actually put into- she's the2629.1099 
1808 2629.6730Okay, this is the baby. Let's hold the baby. Alright, you get to work.2633.2914 
1810 2634.4198Even we-2634.7695 
1812 2635.3570Oh she gets it, okay.2636.6289 
1814 2636.9786Because- [<laugh>]2638.3821 
1815VLD_int_012638.0464[I mean] I feel like /RD-NAME-2/ and- /RD-NAME-2/ and [I are similar]2641.0912
1816VLD_se0_ag3_f_012640.0654[Oh, okay.] Oh okay. Well then [that's the way I-]2642.5589
1817VLD_int_012641.9020[sort of.]2642.3956
1818VLD_se0_ag3_f_012642.7408Yeah. So that's how I feel.2644.2655
1820 2644.7784And so, And I feel that way in the family still. My mom is gone. My grandmother is gone.2649.7899 
1822 2650.1629All of my aunts, but one is gone.2652.0328 
1824 2652.4851And I still feel that way with the cousins, um.2655.0019 
1826 2655.8412But it's just odd to me, that she would be upset because he told her that she should be more like me.2660.2337 
1828 2660.8993And not tell everything. (laughing)2663.0069 
1830 2663.6411That is so funny to me.2664.9747 
1831VLD_int_012665.6869[Do you] feel like that's a quality that you would want him to praise?2668.8484
1832VLD_se0_ag3_f_012665.6916[Oh.]2665.9014
1833 2671.7852The funny thing,2672.7261
1835 2672.8229he tells her,2673.9205 
1837 2674.4241she needs to be more like me.2675.9162 
1839 2676.5597The person she definitely does not want- Only thing she would wanna be more like me like now, she's working on being a teacher.2681.7903 
1841 2682.4497Well she used to, ew, poo, poo, poo, ew, a teacher. Poo, poo, poo, oh, you put in all these hours a, duh, duh, duh.2687.3193 
1843 2687.8789And now I hear the same stuff that I used to say.2690.5869 
1845 2691.1418But now I have to sit back and- Oh that's wonderful,2693.3380 
1847 2693.7157oh you go for it,2694.8628 
1849 2695.1892oh reach for your dreams, you can do it.2697.8365 
1851 2698.7551She didn't do that for me,2699.8929 
1853 2700.2053but it's okay.2700.9141 
1855 2701.2778Cause I- I'm older. I'm wiser.2703.1138 
1857 2703.5661I'm in a whole different place. I'm at the end of my career.2706.3918 
1859 2707.0726As far as in that little box room.2709.0364 
1861 2710.4567She's just at the beginning.2711.6038 
1863 2713.3524Even though we're only two years apart.2714.8946 
1864VLD_int_012715.2956Mm-hm.2715.7106
1865VLD_se0_ag3_f_012716.7833But it just amazed me. Sombody told somebody to be like me?2719.5741
1867 2720.4237Wow, I mean it was a bad,2721.8179 
1869 2722.4847[characteristic, but]2723.9348 
1870VLD_int_012722.8158[<laugh>]2725.1938
1871VLD_se0_ag3_f_012725.2118Wow. Be like me.2726.9044
1873 2727.4309You should be like your sister.2728.8348 
1875 2729.7996Wow. (whispered)2730.3592 
1877 2731.4100I'm like still amazed by that. That was last- that was2733.4568 
1879 2733.6036twelve o'clock this morning.2734.7385 
1881 2735.1796Wow. (whispered)2735.7060 
1883 2736.0910And she was upset.2737.1835 
1885 2737.4892Wow.2737.9591 
1887 2738.0553Yes.2738.6327 
1889 2740.6536And she should be more like me.2742.2061 
1891 2742.3429I am stable.2743.5232 
1893 2745.0007In,2745.4479 
1895 2745.6436the five times she's moved,2747.4631 
1897 2747.9155I've been in the same place.2749.4496 
1898VLD_int_012750.6428[Yes, /damn straight/.]2751.6407
1899VLD_se0_ag3_f_012750.9413[<laugh>]2752.5686
1900VLD_int_012752.2982[Yes.] Yes, [you have.]2753.2886
1901VLD_se0_ag3_f_012752.9323[That is] true.2753.7577
1902VLD_int_012753.8463It- Yes it is true. It's very true.2755.6881
1904 2756.1859Um.2756.7174 
1905VLD_se0_ag3_f_012756.9786Uh-oh, our time is /rind-/ winding-up.2758.6152
1906VLD_int_012758.7924No.2758.9883
1907VLD_se0_ag3_f_012758.9743I don't know why I keep going off in [tangents.]2761.1798
1908VLD_int_012760.7322[Your-] our time is not winding-up. What I'm going to do, is we're going to pause one second,2764.5276
1909 2765.4835because I2766.0199
1911 2766.2201think2766.4503 
1913 2766.6505I2766.8607 
1915 2767.2210think.2767.7403