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1VLD_se0_ag3_m_011.0941[Huh.]1.3645
2VLD_int_011.0987[So] when you moved to Valdosta?2.4323
3VLD_se0_ag3_m_012.8800Uh,3.5234
4VLD_int_014.0970<laugh>4.5726
5VLD_se0_ag3_m_014.7813psh.5.2382
6VLD_int_016.0962So I think we moved- what was it, nineteen ninety-four?8.4650
7VLD_se0_ag3_m_018.8380No.9.3462
8VLD_int_019.8871Okay.10.4187
10 10.7207When (laughing) was it clearly?12.2594 
11VLD_se0_ag3_m_0112.9309[You- you moved-]14.3344
12VLD_int_0112.9355[Oh wait w- w- wait- before-] before- wait- [before we-]15.5001
13VLD_se0_ag3_m_0115.1457[you moved] to Valdosta before I did.16.8757
14 17.8957Remember I went to Aunt Sue [house.]19.7702
15VLD_int_0119.7282[Right.] But before we moved to Valdosta- hold on, before we come to Valdosta21.9944
16 23.1170I'm gonna ask you two things. One, rem- church, and then I have another question.26.9359
17VLD_se0_ag3_m_0127.2064[Uh-huh.]27.6339
18VLD_int_0127.3509[Tell] me a little bit about church.28.6146
19VLD_se0_ag3_m_0129.1730Oh I loved going to church. I used to love to sing in the choir.31.5184
21 32.5023Yeah.32.8333 
23 35.2101I had a lot of fun at church you know. people were really-37.5650 
25 38.3764I don't know what it was. It just,39.5783 
27 39.7827it was just like they was41.0808 
29 41.7303just good people. And they always43.7329 
31 44.5582i- w-44.8240 
33 45.5841like a-45.8592 
35 46.3441like a real family, like another family48.3060 
37 49.0614you know.49.4857 
39 50.9406And, um,51.6400 
41 54.3713you used to love to go to church55.7795 
43 56.8193all the time.57.5980 
45 59.1823Cause you had these60.1524 
47 60.3270various ladies that used to61.6956 
49 62.7541watch over you.63.5934 
51 64.0410it's just- (laughing) [<laugh>]66.2441 
52VLD_int_0164.5015[<laugh>]66.2547
53VLD_se0_ag3_m_0167.2389You had your own-68.2411
55 68.6748you had your own, special70.1436 
57 70.6880babysitters.71.6206 
59 72.4692Oh man, that was something.73.9800 
61 77.5320And, um,78.1522 
63 79.6723the people at church were just-81.0945 
65 81.8825they were just great people,83.0109 
67 84.0309you know.84.4366 
69 86.1292I had a lot of fun, you know what I'm saying. You got to go to church conventions and-90.0029 
71 90.6091and sh- stuff so-91.7385 
73 91.9343stuff like that.92.8380 
75 93.6027Um.94.1809 
77 95.7325I used to love musical time.97.3599 
79 98.8427When they- when99.6493 
81 100.1331when they used to put on them big musicals.101.9563 
83 102.8508The church would be so packed you can't even hardly ge- find a seat.105.7193 
85 106.5166You have to get there early.107.5786 
86VLD_int_01108.7024Mm-hm.109.2013
87VLD_se0_ag3_m_01110.0453Yeah.110.5442
89 110.7960[Yes.]111.1970 
90VLD_int_01110.8240[Oh did you] know Lynn getting married?112.2135
91VLD_se0_ag3_m_01112.4392I heard.113.2832
93 114.0898I heard. I heard y'all was trying to go and [then mama-]116.4120 
94VLD_int_01115.9643[Yeah, mama] said no.116.9575
95VLD_se0_ag3_m_01117.1161Yeah mama say she wasn't feeling well.118.8961
97 119.8660So,120.3556 
99 121.0457yeah.121.3815 
100VLD_int_01121.9737[Mm-hm.]122.5519
101VLD_se0_ag3_m_01122.2954[She said] she wasn't gonna push it.123.4984
102 124.5604Mm-hm.125.1946
103VLD_int_01125.3345Mm-hm.126.2741
105 126.6062In a month.127.3470 
106VLD_se0_ag3_m_01127.6473Yeah.128.1182
107VLD_int_01128.2394Mm-hm. Little Lynn Donna.129.9088
108VLD_se0_ag3_m_01130.6443Lynn Donna, Ms. Piggy.131.9266
109VLD_int_01132.4442Mm-hm. I was always wanting to play with her baby doll, I mean her Barbie Doll.135.6243
110VLD_se0_ag3_m_01135.8983Mm-hm.136.5604
111VLD_int_01137.7401Um.138.3183
113 138.6214But then-138.9758 
115 139.3022I just- The only-140.1322 
117 140.4073I mean I remember a few of your girlfriends, but the one I remember the most, who I loved the most144.7660 
119 146.0716/RD-NAME-4/.146.9125 
120VLD_se0_ag3_m_01147.4367Oh man. She was a-149.4091
122 149.9453You know what, /RD-NAME-3/ was-151.6706 
124 152.9762yeah she was-153.7222 
126 154.2247Matter of fact, she was Ms. Teen156.0432 
128 156.6494Oklahoma at one point. You know, she was in the running for Ms. Teen Oklahoma.159.9974 
130 160.8961Yup.161.1526 
132 162.4494Beautiful. Very beautiful.163.6985 
134 164.9201[Yeah.]165.2745 
135VLD_int_01165.0880[Didn't she] end up going to Spelman?166.2444
136VLD_se0_ag3_m_01166.7328She went to Spelman. Yes she did.168.5607
138 169.0643And she married a doctor.170.3885 
139VLD_int_01171.5309Not [surprised.]172.6127
140VLD_se0_ag3_m_01172.5475[Not] surprised neither.173.6887
141 174.7752Nope.175.1435
142VLD_int_01175.7777Have you176.0668
144 176.4398talking to her-176.8315 
146 177.0926have you talk- have you spoken with her at all?178.5754 
147VLD_se0_ag3_m_01178.7899Um,179.6281
149 180.9992you know what, the last time I actually got a chance to see /RD-NAME-3/,184.5287 
151 184.9800was when she was at Spelman.186.5467 
153 187.0549And I drove up.187.9176 
155 189.3677And we kicked it.190.6407 
157 191.4323And192.1830 
159 193.5772she wrote me a few letters after that, but then,196.2852 
161 197.0779um,197.7493 
163 198.7741I t- oh you know I- no- no, I take [that back.]200.7662 
165 201.5869Um, the last time I actually did talk to her was, uh, right before she got-205.5772 
167 206.0901she got married.206.9108 
169 207.8154Uh-huh.208.2863 
171 208.8774And, um,209.5535 
173 210.4674so, um, just so happen,212.4631 
175 213.1533I don't even know.214.1045 
177 214.5102I just called215.4835 
179 216.1550they old phone number, cause I was like, man.218.7196 
181 219.8107I sure would like to talk to /RD-NAME-3/.221.4158 
183 222.1690And she was home.223.0456 
185 224.2580[And they still-]225.0134 
186VLD_int_01224.3652[At their old house phone number?]225.8853
187VLD_se0_ag3_m_01225.5356[The whol-] the old house phone umber.227.6747
188 228.1457She was home- I was looking through my, um,230.0994
190 230.5937looking through some old numbers, and I was like man I don't even believ233.3295 
192 233.6841I wonder if the /RD-NAME-1/'s still have this number,235.4489 
194 236.4258you know what I'm saying. So,237.7734 
196 238.8039yeah.239.2457 
198 239.5721They still had the same number.241.0176 
200 241.5446After all these years.242.9579 
202 243.6335Yup.243.8807 
204 244.2957And I talked to her. She told me she was getting married.246.6927 
206 247.1342So,247.7404 
208 248.4072I sent her,249.4983 
210 250.1826so, I think it was a crystal punch bowl,252.1503 
212 252.6773or something like that.253.4746 
214 254.7662I had mama order it for me.256.2273 
215VLD_int_01256.5556Oh that was really sweet.257.6467
216VLD_se0_ag3_m_01257.6841Mm-hm.258.3462
217VLD_int_01259.2741I just m- I don't know, I just always-260.9061
219 261.3444I think because I wanted, I l- I looked up to her. I wanted to be264.5607 
221 265.4933/RD-NAME-4/. Like I just266.8828 
223 267.0460[always]267.7221 
224VLD_se0_ag3_m_01267.2605[Yeah.]267.7361
225VLD_int_01268.5708thought she was just269.5209
226VLD_se0_ag3_m_01269.9778Yeah. [You know what?]270.7565
227VLD_int_01270.2016[the bee's] knees.271.3347
228VLD_se0_ag3_m_01271.3767The last night, the last night I spent,273.3584
230 274.0065in Val- uh, well in Oklahoma city,275.8565 
232 276.2657I spent it with /RD-NAME-3/.277.3708 
234 277.9863We went to a double movie feature.279.9260 
236 281.0953Yeah. We went to see,282.3776 
238 283.5899uh, Mo' Money and Boomerang.286.1359 
239VLD_int_01286.4296Mm.287.2550
240VLD_se0_ag3_m_01287.6455Yup.288.0325
242 289.3195Shoot, but we didn't watch the movies.291.0418 
244 291.6369[<laugh>]294.1817 
245VLD_int_01291.9727[<laugh>]293.8971
246 295.0210Didn't [she have a- did she what-] did she have a red car? No that wasn't her.298.2991
247VLD_se0_ag3_m_01295.2355[<yawn>]296.3500
248 298.9146No, that was not /RD-NAME-3/.300.3752
249VLD_int_01300.7459[Hm.]300.9604
250VLD_se0_ag3_m_01300.7832[She] wasn't driving. We wasn't driving then.302.7277
251 303.8095[I wa-] I knew how to drive, but305.6000
252VLD_int_01303.9540[Oh.]304.2151
253VLD_se0_ag3_m_01306.0931I didn't actually have a license then.307.7065
254VLD_int_01307.8557Okay.308.3873
255VLD_se0_ag3_m_01308.5878Uh-huh.309.1660
256VLD_int_01311.2072Um, okay so then we moved- Okay so I moved- You- That's right- you went to Thomasville first with Aunt Sue.316.0379
258 316.6255[And Uncle] James.317.8460 
259VLD_se0_ag3_m_01316.7467[Right.]316.9938
260 318.2470Mm-hm.318.6853
261VLD_int_01318.6900And I moved to Valdosta.320.3453
263 321.6602[Um.]322.4902 
264VLD_se0_ag3_m_01321.7955[Right.]322.0939
265VLD_int_01323.7154So how was Thomasville?324.7972
266VLD_se0_ag3_m_01325.6459Thomasville was great. I-327.1193
268 328.2431I got a lot of-329.0451 
270 329.6268a lot of slack because you know331.0770 
272 331.6832coming in, I'm'a s- I'm'a junior333.6882 
274 334.3597trying out for- I had to try out for another football team.337.5106 
276 338.0935Didn't nobody know me.339.3572 
278 340.6476You know what I'm saying.341.7527 
279VLD_int_01341.7714Did you make the football team?342.6667
280VLD_se0_ag3_m_01343.0071Yeah, I made the team.343.8744
282 344.5272Yeah.344.8582 
284 345.1473And, uh, I ended up hurting my knee that year.347.5095 
286 348.8438And, I think was the last year- Yeah that was the least year I played because352.9134 
288 353.4730I hurt my knee so bad that-354.8625 
290 356.2381that I was kind of357.1660 
292 357.7295kind of /sceptibal/ you know what I'm saying. I had to come over here and try out another team.361.4594 
294 362.1122I just didn't wanna go through the same hassle.363.9214 
296 364.3737So I didn't play football my next year.366.0512 
298 366.6014My senior year I didn't play football,368.1774 
300 369.0494but369.3478 
302 369.6416you know what I'm saying. I still got a few college offers.372.2004 
304 372.8112But then I was like man, shoot.375.0651 
306 376.5695I just didn't feel it no more,377.9999 
308 378.1957so I just let it go.379.2868 
310 380.1635But then actually they- /kept, uh-/ actually coach /RD-NAME-2/-383.0451 
312 383.6222coach /RD-NAME-2/ kept begging me to play over here.385.7065 
314 386.4526And I didn't play.387.1660 
316 388.2105Yup.388.5308 
317VLD_int_01390.4941So what happened when you moved to Valdosta?392.0935
318VLD_se0_ag3_m_01393.0261Oh man.394.1219
320 395.6688I moved back to Valdosta in-397.5619 
322 400.1732I ended up graduating,401.5569 
324 402.9464um, my partner, my best friend Steve came down to my graduation.406.8866 
326 410.6344I was hanging with the wrong crowd.412.3066 
328 413.6548Well,414.0139 
330 414.3636I can't say really hanging with the wrong crowd,416.3546 
332 417.6347cause I used to go pick the crowd up.419.0591 
334 420.6387So.421.0304 
336 422.8163It was like423.2919 
338 425.4450I just fell into a different mode427.2792 
340 428.4759when I came back here.429.5343 
342 429.7022I really didn't wanna be here.431.1104 
344 431.6781So I just,432.6081 
346 432.8764kind of433.2962 
348 436.6569I don't know just explored different a-438.3962 
350 438.9697different avenues.440.0935 
352 441.0960Um,441.7395 
354 442.0426dealing with the streets.443.1104 
356 444.2907You know.444.6294 
358 447.1007Doing wild stuff.448.3778 
360 448.7939Being wild.449.7405 
362 450.5408Acting crazy, drinking.452.2258 
364 453.2079You know what I'm saying. Smoking.455.2689 
366 456.3499You know.456.7879 
368 459.0028Just459.4318 
370 460.0146being a wild teenager.461.2083 
371VLD_int_01464.7370And so then we so- when your m-465.9493
373 466.2618So that was- you talking about- So then we moved into the h- we moved to the house next door.470.4199 
375 472.3084Cause we weren't living with-473.1477 
377 473.3882We were- This is when your mama came right?475.0572 
378VLD_se0_ag3_m_01475.5596No, this was before mama came.477.1240
380 478.2664Yeah- cause see, when mama got- Actually, well,480.3822 
382 481.0490well, um, yeah, but we was here- We was in the house when-484.0473 
384 484.7172when all this was going on.486.0072 
386 487.2962Yeah because my mom- mama- mama- when mama came home it was my senior year.491.2503 
388 492.1864So she came.493.1143 
390 494.1355I stayed one year in Thomasville and then496.1405 
392 496.7420we moved over here into the house that we're in now.499.3847 
393VLD_int_01499.9676Mm-hm.500.4479
394VLD_se0_ag3_m_01500.5318Mm-hm.500.9748
396 501.4970That she's currently staying in.503.1483 
397VLD_int_01506.4199So what do you think, if you hadn't moved back to Valdosta do you think your life woulda been different?509.7527
398VLD_se0_ag3_m_01512.9515Yes.513.4551
399VLD_int_01514.7467How?514.9845
400VLD_se0_ag3_m_01516.2283Uh.517.0257
402 517.3474I felt like maybe I woulda-518.7790 
404 519.5996I don't know why, but I probably wouldn't have got in so much trouble.522.2703 
406 523.1003You know what I'm saying. I- i-524.3173 
408 526.3786You know it was- it was more stuff for529.0817 
410 529.7531young men to do.530.9748 
412 531.9354It was- And then I always had something going on.534.4289 
414 534.8872If I wasn't,535.6505 
416 537.6602uh,538.1778 
418 538.9274it was just more structure.540.3004 
420 540.9744So,541.4733 
422 542.3033when you, once she took me away from the structure,544.7094 
424 546.0756it was just more time I had, more idle time here.548.6670 
426 549.4551You know, so.550.4902 
428 553.3708I just felt like,554.2194 
430 555.1473m-555.2406 
432 555.5890maybe that woulda been the place for me. I shoulda stayed.558.3216 
434 559.1842I shoulda stayed regardless to what-561.2079 
436 562.1312I shoulda stayed.563.1384 
438 563.4508And563.9532 
440 564.6853maybe went on to school, and- and I- never- you never know.567.6649 
442 568.2384Even with this-568.8166 
444 568.9973even with, um,570.1584 
446 570.6806my church family.571.5526 
448 572.1728You know. It was always something going on and then Me and Steve was always kicking it.576.3589 
450 577.2495You know what I'm saying, on the weekends.579.2452 
452 580.5229And581.1477 
454 581.8227you know it was just always something going on. Parties,584.4386 
456 584.9748my partner Cal when I used to kick it with Cal, when-587.4088 
458 588.2936Or I go hang at Jed. I still was kicking it with Jed. You know what I'm saying. It was just592.4809 
460 592.9659you know,593.3062 
462 593.8273I had a lot of-594.6154 
464 596.0282um,596.6082 
466 599.6688How can I say it? Uh, my environment was a whole lot healthier.603.0168 
468 603.6562You know what I'm saying. Even though-604.7560 
470 605.2864even though where we stayed it was a lot going on.607.5386 
472 607.9918You know what I'm saying. And I kicked it with some of them guys too,610.2151 
474 611.9206to a certain extent.612.8905 
476 613.8650But I always like to be-615.3245 
478 616.7316as I so call say the boss.618.4242 
480 618.9278So,619.3101 
482 619.5340I wasn't gonna let this cat tell me what to do, or how to do what I wanted to do.623.4834 
484 624.0838I was gonna do it on my own.625.2449 
486 626.1495So.626.4899 
487VLD_int_01630.7273Okay, so what happened after high school?632.6484
488VLD_se0_ag3_m_01632.9701Uh.633.6537
489VLD_int_01634.7316No I'm- I'm-635.4077
490VLD_se0_ag3_m_01635.6717Uh, well, after high school,638.4712
492 639.4784I was working, going to school. And then642.4195 
494 643.6738you know,644.1728 
496 645.9260uh,646.5275 
498 647.5196quit working.648.3123 
500 651.1660And started hustling.652.4016 
502 653.3435And653.9999 
504 655.1423ended up getting in trouble.656.3686 
506 657.3851And then ended up getting on probation.659.6793 
508 660.4335Then ended up- uh,662.0655 
510 664.0939ended up, uh,665.0498 
512 667.3072I was on probation668.4292 
514 669.0401and then I had, uh670.4436 
516 672.5501I had got into a high speed chase674.6251 
518 675.2779and675.8607 
520 676.7141so I went to get a probation bond.678.7739 
522 680.1075And ended up going to prison.681.7815 
524 683.6921Mm.684.0185 
526 685.4547Which I couldn't believe, but686.9142 
528 688.5835I- you know.689.2689 
530 691.2449Um,691.7811 
532 692.7883and then from there I served my time. Went to boot camp, served my time.696.1105 
534 696.5781Got out.697.0910 
536 698.6904You know what I'm saying. Trying to do things differently.701.1057 
538 701.8151But702.1537 
540 705.6043after a while,706.4436 
542 707.5942you know.708.0139 
544 710.1961Not being- (yawning) oh, excuse me.711.5483 
546 712.4436<yawns>712.8493 
548 712.9099Not being able to find a job. Nobody wanting to hire me.715.9769 
550 716.6344So I fell back into hustling.718.2151 
552 719.3237And, um,720.0605 
554 720.8951got in some more trouble.721.9816 
556 723.0214Ended up getting-723.8328 
558 724.8227going back to prison again.726.4102 
560 728.4292You know.728.9142 
562 730.3504And then,731.0626 
564 732.5221through a course of action, you know.734.1448 
566 734.7510Got out again.735.7115 
568 737.0265Trying to get a job. Got a job.739.1469 
570 740.4386Job wasn't paying well, so I started back hustling again.744.0232 
572 745.4015Ended up getting in some more trouble747.0634 
574 748.5311You know what I'm saying, on some various other things.751.0817 
576 751.7111But then I ended up,753.2256 
578 753.3491um,754.0613 
580 758.3408going to prison and then759.7815 
582 760.3078when I got out of prison, I had a split sentence, so762.7553 
584 763.4360I ended up, uh, having to move765.3898 
586 766.1918to another location.767.4963 
588 768.4662Uh, because, uh, I took a banishment770.8489 
590 771.4411to try to move from the area.773.0544 
592 773.7667Well, which wasn't bad- well-775.1656 
594 775.7671well I- I can't say it was all bad, but it-778.1221 
596 778.7001it was a bad idea but knowing780.1817 
598 780.5548when you first getting out781.7205 
600 782.2707and then you got-783.2499 
602 784.8254you got seventy two hours to-786.7646 
604 787.3381to leave where you-788.3919 
606 788.6251your home.789.3059 
608 789.9493And790.5622 
610 790.7283try to go find you somewhere else to stay.792.5361 
612 793.2588So.793.7811 
614 795.2825I went and tried some various places.797.7434 
616 798.2097I went back to Oklahoma for a while,800.1122 
618 800.7090but then I ended up in Tifton.802.3923 
620 803.8973So.804.4568 
622 806.4590It was just, you know.807.5204 
624 808.8108Tifton was great though. I had a good time in Tifton. I-811.1376 
626 811.6412I tried to do the school thing over there, but ended up, uh,814.5275 
628 815.4450you know what I'm saying.816.4428 
630 816.8065Um.817.3568 
632 820.2105I got in-820.6255 
634 821.0580I got in some-821.7621 
636 822.8672got in some trouble over there.824.0935 
638 825.0820With the woman I was staying with and ended up having to withdraw.827.9626 
640 828.5781So that kind of messed me up.829.8790 
642 831.5390You know.831.9074 
644 833.3517But yeah. Through that course of action man.835.6609 
646 837.0074I just- you know- I don't know.838.5788 
648 839.0067Maybe, I- maybe I wouldn't have ended up-840.6294 
650 841.3288well,841.7018 
652 842.0113uh, the end is not yet so.843.9027 
654 844.5742You know, you never know the end yet so.846.5641 
656 846.8765[/Still got life/.]847.7158 
657VLD_int_01847.0304[Was that the last] time you got in trouble?848.3686
658VLD_se0_ag3_m_01850.3364The last time I got in trouble? No. The last time I got in trouble was when I left Tifton.853.6552
660 854.5178And came over here.855.3152 
662 856.8949Came back over- when I moved back over here.858.6760 
663VLD_int_01858.8299And what year was that?859.7345
664VLD_se0_ag3_m_01859.7997Uh,860.6251
666 861.0587that was,861.9960 
668 863.2351uh, two thousand no- no- no- no.866.6251 
670 866.9934I got in trouble when I got back over here. W- I moved from Tifton869.6641 
672 870.1491and got in trouble,871.0910 
674 871.7904that was two thousand five.873.1986 
675VLD_int_01873.4551Mm.873.9167
676VLD_se0_ag3_m_01874.1405Two thousand eight, was the last time I got in trouble.876.7926
678 877.8417Mm-hm.878.2614 
679VLD_int_01878.7883[I think] that's when we stopped talking.880.0473
680VLD_se0_ag3_m_01878.7976[Yup.]878.9934
681 880.5462Yeah.880.9006
683 881.9299Yeah that's when,882.7413 
685 884.3246I was on the no call,885.5903 
687 886.3084no show list.887.2083 
688VLD_int_01890.4106Why?890.6670
689VLD_se0_ag3_m_01892.3690I mean, I don't know why.895.0817
691 895.5479That's something that my897.3105 
693 899.2258beloved899.8460 
695 900.1910sister that I love so much in the whole wide world has to tell me why.903.7209 
696VLD_int_01905.1885What did she say to you?906.0325
697VLD_se0_ag3_m_01907.4873She say that she didn't wanna deal with the gated community.910.0892
699 914.0982And914.5831 
701 915.6051I can feel that. I can understand that.917.6560 
703 918.4382But918.7972 
705 919.2070yet and still,920.2427 
707 921.4318I felt like,922.3270 
709 922.6395well,923.0171 
711 926.5971true enough.927.3525 
713 927.9027You don't have to deal with the gated community.929.7341 
715 930.3169But930.7180 
717 931.9163you should deal with your brother.933.1613 
719 933.7209Because your brother,934.7374 
721 935.7760is your brother.936.5361 
723 937.2223Regardless to where I'm at,938.5878 
725 940.7607or wherever I may go, or wherever I may be,943.5246 
727 945.5716you know what I'm saying. I'm still your brother.947.5726 
728VLD_int_01949.5106Do you remember the moment that changed our relationship?951.3758
730 952.3690After the whole gated community thing?954.0605 
731VLD_se0_ag3_m_01954.9697Yes.955.5992
732VLD_int_01955.7018What was the moment that changed our relationship?957.2872
733VLD_se0_ag3_m_01957.6667/RD-NAME-3/958.3224
735 959.3191/RD-NAME-3/ whe- when you got pregnant.961.1620 
737 962.2251Yes. That- that changed our relationship.964.4447 
739 965.6279Oh, [yeah.]966.4066 
740VLD_int_01965.9310[Do you remember] what happened?967.0175
741VLD_se0_ag3_m_01967.6333Yes, you sent me a ultrasound.969.6567
743 970.4762And I couldn't believe it.971.5253 
745 971.7538And- and then I was really shocked because you had wrote me.974.4023 
747 974.9106You know what I'm saying. And you was like,976.8317 
749 977.2966Aw something had /??/.978.6547 
751 979.0128And then-979.7076 
753 980.0713So I was like,980.7026 
755 980.9709wow.981.5914 
757 982.2757You know what I'm saying. She's finna have a baby.984.1641 
759 984.7097And then I couldn't believe it. I was like,986.1132 
761 986.5502and is she talking to me?987.7079 
763 988.2477You know what I'm saying. She said she wasn't talking to me, jus- n- nobody in the gated community.991.7682 
765 992.6681And993.2743 
767 993.7488yes we had. And then995.2875 
769 996.0709it was a scary moment because998.3977 
771 999.9084you was having problems with your pregnancy.1001.8144 
773 1002.4299So that was scary.1003.5304 
774VLD_int_011005.2976You remember-1005.8105
776 1006.4062I will alw- you called me on September first.1008.6351 
778 1009.6283Because you- you couldn't call my phone.1011.4561 
780 1012.1917And so your whatever your little counselor whatever, she let you call me on September first [and you asked me] how I was doing.1017.6007 
781VLD_se0_ag3_m_011016.4023[Uh-huh.]1016.7987
782 1017.8094Yes, yes.1018.5788
783VLD_int_011018.6067And my water had just broke and I said well, my water broke, you know. And I was due in December.1022.9299
784VLD_se0_ag3_m_011023.4142Mm-hm.1023.8338
785VLD_int_011024.1638I had been in the hospital. I think your mama had told you I'd been in the hospital the [whole time.]1027.6283
786VLD_se0_ag3_m_011026.9102[Mm-hm] the whole time. Yup.1028.8220
787VLD_int_011030.1742And /RD-NAME-3/ was born the next day.1031.6699
788VLD_se0_ag3_m_011032.2760Yup.1032.7470
790 1035.8840Yep, I remember that.1036.9145 
792 1037.5906And I got- and I got shipped.1039.1673 
794 1040.2065And I got shipped from there.1041.7732 
796 1042.8818Um,1043.6605 
798 1046.2155not too long after that.1047.4758 
800 1048.9659Yep.1049.2782 
801VLD_int_011051.4202And I did something else I said I would never do.1053.5074
802VLD_se0_ag3_m_011053.9446You brought /RD-NAME-3/ to see me.1055.5580
804 1056.4812<laugh>1057.6050 
806 1058.4443Oh that w- she was so beautiful. Her little chubby self.1061.2060 
808 1061.7072That's when she was so chubby then.1063.4558 
809VLD_int_011063.5957Mm-hm.1064.2531
810VLD_se0_ag3_m_011064.2997I remember them little fat cheeks.1065.8012
812 1066.6720Oh man.1067.5440 
814 1068.4066And she was in her little,1069.4278 
816 1070.1319it's w- didn't she have a little, uh, /bimbo/1072.0670 
818 1072.6895That's [the first time-]1073.5615 
819VLD_int_011072.9227[Mm, but yeah-] but she couldn't- she didn't have that on- Mm, she couldn't bring that in.1076.0468
820VLD_se0_ag3_m_011076.5038I thought it wa- Oh no- Oh no I thought it-1078.6336
822 1078.8714[No?]1079.1838 
823VLD_int_011079.1278[They] didn't let her bring that in.1080.2189
824VLD_se0_ag3_m_011080.4288[Uh.]1080.6946
825VLD_int_011080.4288[You had to hold her.]1081.1655
826VLD_se0_ag3_m_011081.8370That's right, yeah.1082.6250
828 1084.1440Mm-hm.1084.7688 
829VLD_int_011086.5826And then soon after that I think you came home.1088.9048
830VLD_se0_ag3_m_011089.0167Mm-hm.1089.4643
832 1090.6102[Yeah.]1091.0486 
833VLD_int_011090.7035[And I] think our whole relationship changed after that.1093.0070
834VLD_se0_ag3_m_011093.3893Yep, it did.1094.1261
835VLD_int_011095.4818And then what happened for you after that?1097.1239
836VLD_se0_ag3_m_011098.6899I ended up, uh, settling down and,1101.6497
838 1102.6802uh, went to work with my daddy.1104.6246 
840 1105.8743And1106.6017 
842 1107.1053I had a beautiful niece.1108.4562 
844 1109.3283Somebody that loved me.1110.5547 
846 1111.2681So I used to come over here all the time.1113.4305 
848 1114.2838And come over here and get her and keep her and1117.0396 
850 1118.5263just love on her.1119.6742 
852 1120.9413And1121.4822 
854 1122.2516come watch her do therapy.1123.7903 
856 1125.3477You know what I'm saying, because she wasn't walking at the time.1128.4055 
858 1129.0909And she was struggling,1130.2939 
860 1130.7975with speech.1131.8205 
862 1132.6781And now she's putting words together.1135.2156 
864 1135.9116She's walking.1137.1752 
866 1138.2372It's just amazing.1139.3004 
868 1139.7853And then not only that I ended up, uh,1141.9862 
870 1143.8269I ended up getting married,1145.3439 
872 1145.9905and now I have a son.1147.1515 
873VLD_int_011150.0181And they are the best of friends.1152.3402
874VLD_se0_ag3_m_011152.4521Yes they (laughing) are.1153.5292
875VLD_int_011153.6949And it's so funny cause they're almost the same age that we're apart.1156.2337
876VLD_se0_ag3_m_011156.6802Right.1157.0299
877VLD_int_011157.6034So they're six years apart, and we're seven years [apart.]1160.1074
878VLD_se0_ag3_m_011159.7017[Right.]1160.0981
879 1160.6409Isn't that something.1161.5436
880VLD_int_011162.7222Yeah.1163.0392
881VLD_se0_ag3_m_011163.0346And it's backwards.1163.9671
882VLD_int_011164.0091It's [backwards] yep.1164.8018
883VLD_se0_ag3_m_011164.2003[Cause-]1164.6060
884 1165.1329because yes and it's backwards.1167.0820
886 1167.8424Yep.1168.3108 
887VLD_int_011169.1325Yep.1169.4822
888VLD_se0_ag3_m_011170.9743[Cause-]1171.6178
889VLD_int_011170.9790[Um.]1171.6691
890 1172.6203Couple of other questions I wanted to ask you.1174.2244
891VLD_se0_ag3_m_011174.4657Mm-hm.1174.7828
892VLD_int_011174.7921I'm gonna ask you1175.5475
894 1176.1723one first and then I'll ask you the other one.1177.4313 
895VLD_se0_ag3_m_011177.5945[Uh-huh.]1177.9116
896VLD_int_011177.6085So have you- Has there ever been a time where you felt like,1180.0518
897 1180.7501you're like, oh my god I'm about to die, like this it,1183.2416
899 1183.4077like1183.6318 
901 1184.2380my life is end- is gonna end right now.1186.0379 
902VLD_se0_ag3_m_011188.7505Oh shit, I had several of those.1190.7043
903VLD_int_011191.0960Tell me a couple.1191.8140
905 1193.0905[Like describe] it for me.1194.1537 
906VLD_se0_ag3_m_011193.0952[Well-]1193.4775
907 1195.0796Well one night be and Calvin was at a- a [part-]1197.7616
908VLD_int_011197.4538[Hold on] let's let this plane,1198.8061
909 1199.3470do extra.1200.0418
910VLD_se0_ag3_m_011214.7369You got a water?1215.5110
912 1216.2372I need a water.1217.0859 
913VLD_int_011217.1821I don't have a water.1218.0511
914VLD_se0_ag3_m_011218.2982Oh.1218.7925
915VLD_int_011218.7832/When/ we finish I'll get you a water.1220.0888
916VLD_se0_ag3_m_011220.4478Yeah.1220.7649
918 1221.8094But, uh,1222.3316 
920 1224.7598Mm.1225.0396 
922 1226.6810Okay so,1227.5063 
924 1228.7315one night, me and- uh, we- it's a- it's a, um, end of the school year party.1232.5737 
926 1233.1508My ninth grade year.1234.2046 
928 1235.7293So, uh,1236.4707 
930 1237.1282me and my partner Calvin,1238.2520 
932 1239.0493we going to the party.1240.1737 
934 1240.4843So,1240.9227 
936 1241.6314we at Calvin's house, we getting dressed.1243.6225 
938 1244.1680Getting ready to go to the party,1245.5716 
940 1246.2559um, they had it in his- his, uh, apartment complex. They m- somebod-1250.2613 
942 1250.8115One of the, um, students from the school rented out1253.4822 
944 1253.9951the apartment building to have a-1255.4639 
946 1255.9396have a party.1256.6670 
948 1257.3466So we go to the party.1258.6709 
950 1259.4356Well,1259.8599 
952 1261.2075I had some problems with1262.6810 
954 1263.2358some cats at school,1264.5170 
956 1265.1698that didn't like me because of from- where I was from.1267.7764 
958 1268.2613And then they was from- in the end, well1270.0705 
960 1271.1045put it like this,1271.7573 
962 1272.3402the cats-1272.9650 
964 1273.3474the cats- The neighborhood I stayed in,1275.4302 
966 1275.6917they were beefing with the neighborhood these other guys stayed in.1278.3122 
968 1279.3800So,1279.8183 
970 1280.3266they knew I was from that neighborhood.1282.0052 
972 1283.1558So,1283.6547 
974 1284.3122um, when we was in the party I seen the guys1286.9467 
976 1287.3571and they seen me, you know what I'm saying. Which I ain't really1289.6874 
978 1290.1490we weren't really tripping, I was having a good time, you know.1292.2799 
980 1292.8115Not thinking, you know what I'm saying, that they gonna1295.0113 
982 1295.6174try to do something to me, or you know what I'm saying. Trying to fight.1298.5457 
984 1299.1647You know what I'm saying. Well,1300.4051 
986 1301.1791one of the dudes approached me.1302.4521 
988 1303.0610You know what I'm saying. He was like, yeah, nigga you gonna die tonight.1305.4154 
990 1306.1195I was like man I ain't stunting that.1307.5044 
992 1307.7702<cough>1311.9656 
994 1312.0975I was like, man go ahead- excuse me.1313.3645 
996 1314.7494I was like man go ahead on man.1316.1389 
998 1316.7254He was like, yo.1317.2953 
1000 1318.3537I'm gonna catch you outside.1319.4064 
1002 1320.3157So, uh,1321.0618 
1004 1323.6331I was like, man.1324.6324 
1006 1325.2805So I-1325.6349 
1008 1326.1618<clears throat> So I went over there. I told Cal, like man, look man,1328.9409 
1010 1330.5451these cats tripping man.1331.8607 
1012 1332.4416You know what I'm saying, on this neighborhood.1333.8358 
1014 1334.6005On this neighborhood beef stuff, you know what I'm saying.1336.7909 
1016 1337.4717I might need to go on-1338.5908 
1018 1338.8240go on and leave man.1339.8778 
1020 1341.5739So,1341.9470 
1022 1342.8944we seen the cats, you know what I'm saying. They was on the dance floor,1345.1680 
1024 1345.6363so me and Cal, we eased out it was like,1347.3746 
1026 1347.6765maybe,1347.9889 
1028 1348.7018twelve thirty1349.3785 
1030 1349.8494you know what I'm saying.1350.6421 
1032 1351.1830So we eased out.1352.1279 
1034 1353.6299<clears throat>1354.1055 
1036 1354.7163So we ease out the door,1355.8634 
1038 1356.7960and, uh,1357.5560 
1040 1360.0216when we get out the door,1360.8842 
1042 1361.4064it's a whole lot more1362.3857 
1044 1363.1084of the same cats from the same neighborhood,1365.2195 
1046 1365.5249as before the cats from my neighborhood.1367.3645 
1048 1368.2178So, I'm like, ah, man.1369.7006 
1050 1370.8256I'm looking crazy.1371.8957 
1052 1373.4158I like, well1374.1852 
1054 1374.6040I know Calvin gonna ride with me,1376.1855 
1056 1376.7451but I don't want Calvin to get messed up.1378.5158 
1058 1379.1686You know what I'm saying, there nothing that. We really both ain't got nothing, you know what I'm saying.1382.6891 
1060 1383.1130Nothing really, you know,1384.0036 
1062 1384.4711going on with this situation.1385.9154 
1064 1387.4471So-1387.9006 
1066 1389.0480so we get out the door,1390.0613 
1068 1390.8569and, uh,1391.5470 
1070 1391.8812so one of the dudes approached me, we were like, man.1393.9717 
1072 1394.6280He was like what up, R-Dog, I was like, what up.1396.5212 
1074 1397.7242So, um,1398.4843 
1076 1400.0965he was like, yeah man, you know what I'm saying man.1401.9197 
1078 1402.4559You know we gotta get at you.1403.5004 
1080 1404.1625I was like, man, I ain't really tripping about all that, man. I said man, I just came1408.1761 
1082 1408.6331you know what I'm saying man, it's is the end of the school year man.1410.7967 
1084 1411.3379Y'all out there fooling to go man. You know what I'm saying man. Look at- look at how many of y'all is-1415.3185 
1086 1415.6636it's just me bruh.1416.5122 
1088 1416.9447So you- so y'all wanna ride on me1418.6374 
1090 1419.0057like that?1419.5606 
1092 1419.9337You know what I'm saying.1420.9035 
1094 1422.0226You know.1422.3817 
1096 1422.8499I said man, there are about ten of y'all man.1424.5768 
1098 1425.2296You know what I'm saying.1426.1528 
1100 1427.3652So by this time,1428.6055 
1102 1429.5742the cat that really didn't like me,1431.1829 
1104 1431.7705he coming out the door.1432.7823 
1106 1433.4957You know what I'm saying.1434.4470 
1108 1435.0671So,1435.5940 
1110 1436.2084but this the one that told me I was gonna die tonight.1437.9663 
1112 1438.9688So as he coming out the door,1440.2744 
1114 1441.4466you know what I'm saying,1442.3809 
1116 1443.4441I just- I say man, you know.1445.1787 
1118 1446.0926it's too much going on. It's too many cats.1448.1909 
1120 1448.6906You know what I'm saying.1449.5466 
1122 1450.1575So I just spo- I just hit-1451.5366 
1124 1451.6686I just hit dude that was in front of me,1453.4961 
1126 1454.2410you know what I'm saying.1455.0897 
1128 1455.4161I hit him,1456.1015 
1130 1456.4652Calvin hit the other dude that was in front of him.1458.6568 
1132 1459.0718And we took off running.1460.0825 
1134 1460.6560So after we take off running,1461.9994 
1136 1462.7124you know what I'm saying,1463.6449 
1138 1464.1409the guy that was coming out the door, he go to shoot.1465.9065 
1140 1466.9684And man,1467.7658 
1142 1468.2181as he shooting,1469.2952 
1144 1470.0366I can literally-1471.0520 
1146 1471.7328I can literally- I can- I'm telling you, I can hear the bullets1474.8709 
1148 1475.6659flying across my head.1476.9948 
1150 1477.5241<sound effect>1477.8085 
1152 1478.8379<sound effect>1479.0943 
1154 1479.9710<sound effect>1480.3114 
1156 1481.1647I can hear it.1481.8268 
1158 1483.8913So we ducked through this- like this volleyball c- I mean,1486.8569 
1160 1487.2066tennis area.1487.9713 
1162 1488.3893We ducked through there, then we cut behind some apartment buildings.1491.5373 
1164 1492.1015You know what I'm saying. I'm running for my li- I ain't never ran this hard in my life.1495.0065 
1166 1495.5987Calvin is the fastest dude1497.5886 
1168 1498.1808on the men's- on- on the bo- on- in our high school.1501.2490 
1170 1501.7023He was the fastest dude1502.8093 
1172 1503.4114at our high school man.1504.6984 
1174 1505.4351I was1505.8688 
1176 1506.5029keeping up with him, running.1507.9799 
1178 1508.4865That's how fast I was running (laughing).1510.0036 
1180 1510.4000Scared for my life, you know what I'm saying.1512.5449 
1181VLD_int_011512.7501And you kind of chubby.1513.6569
1182VLD_se0_ag3_m_011514.0312Right.1514.4136
1184 1514.6467And I'm a heavy set dude.1515.7565 
1186 1516.7963So when we got back to Calvin daddy house,1519.0625 
1188 1519.2490you know what I'm saying,1520.1070 
1190 1520.6481Calvin daddy, you know, he's a- he's marine.1522.8289 
1192 1523.5610So,1523.9294 
1194 1524.5267he was like, what happened?1525.4122 
1196 1526.5874Get the guns.1527.5420 
1198 1527.8917you know what I'm [saying.]1528.7590 
1199VLD_int_011528.4925[<laugh>]1529.0108
1200VLD_se0_ag3_m_011529.5750Boy I'm talking about- Boy I felt good cause get what he call one of his army buddies, his army buddy came over there.1534.8429
1202 1535.2298You know what I'm saying. Boy he done gave me a pistol he gave Calvin a pistol.1538.5550 
1204 1539.1410Boy now we riding looking for them.1540.8010 
1206 1541.3792You know what I'm saying. So after all that- Oh yeah,1543.6722 
1208 1543.9519oh yeah,1544.4369 
1210 1544.7306that's what I'm talking about.1545.6586 
1212 1546.1202You know what I'm saying.1547.1402 
1214 1547.8128So,1548.2604 
1216 1549.3411after the shooting,1550.2877 
1218 1551.0850after the shooting occurred,1552.2694 
1220 1552.5305everything shut off. You know what I'm saying, [so] it wasn't nobody in sight.1555.6220 
1221VLD_int_011554.3490[Hm.]1554.5822
1222VLD_se0_ag3_m_011556.2877So he took me on home.1557.5606
1224 1558.7730But that was one of the nights man.1560.4516 
1226 1561.7234That-1562.3296 
1228 1562.9918that wa- that was really close.1564.4093 
1230 1565.0994That was real close.1566.1439 
1232 1566.7640Yup.1567.0671 
1234 1568.6374And1569.2482 
1236 1569.9850it was crazy.1570.7916 
1238 1571.4305You know what I'm saying. I don't even know,1572.8247 
1240 1573.3003um,1573.9251 
1242 1575.1270if Calvin will remember that night.1576.4466 
1244 1577.2020You know what I'm saying. But yeah, that was-1578.9366 
1246 1579.5054that was a close night, that night.1580.7913 
1248 1584.3117Real close.1585.1604 
1249VLD_int_011586.8286I'm gonna ask you another- and this is-1588.9828
1251 1589.8361this just cause I'm interested.1591.3281 
1253 1592.3110So,1592.7913 
1255 1593.2529do you remember July seventeenth,1594.7590 
1257 1595.8501two thousand sixteen?1597.0628 
1258VLD_se0_ag3_m_011598.4042July seventeen,1599.8171
1260 1600.4979yeah I remember that.1601.4118 
1261VLD_int_011602.7127Can you tell me what, like I remember,1604.5488
1263 1605.6073when I called you all,1606.7870 
1265 1607.4911can you just kind of-1608.1066 
1267 1608.6242walk me through that whole-, like1610.0324 
1269 1611.3321I know what I was going through,1612.4419 
1271 1613.5051but I remember,1614.0373 
1273 1614.2374when I called you guys,1615.9111 
1275 1616.1431y'all all were in the car together.1617.6586 
1277 1619.9760I think y'all were in the car.1620.9226 
1279 1621.1837Yeah, y'all coming from Alabama.1622.4136 
1281 1623.0695But I could barely talk.1624.1145 
1282VLD_se0_ag3_m_011625.3092Yeah that was, you know,1627.1639
1284 1628.4882that was like the worst feeling in the world to me.1630.8849 
1286 1631.9247You know what I'm saying, because1633.4308 
1288 1636.8616for you1637.7242 
1290 1638.0040to be1638.6381 
1292 1640.3716hurting like that,1641.3275 
1294 1642.7543and then1643.6123 
1296 1645.2945I mean I always feel, that, you know what I'm saying. I would-1647.6819 
1298 1648.4093I would probably go before you and mama would.1650.5915 
1300 1651.5789Just due to-1652.4459 
1302 1652.6375to the things that1653.6539 
1304 1654.4746I've1655.0994 
1306 1655.8734done in my life.1656.9972 
1308 1657.7981So I feel that I (laughing) probably,1659.1783 
1310 1659.7623would be the first one to-1660.8989 
1312 1661.3372something major to happen to.1662.8899 
1314 1663.3656Or1663.7759 
1316 1664.2317you know what I'm saying. On his sick bed, or something like that.1666.5865 
1318 1667.2533But for you to have a stroke like that,1669.0765 
1320 1669.9146It just really throwed us off.1671.5000 
1322 1672.4606and1673.0854 
1324 1673.5004it really1674.0599 
1326 1675.2210and1675.5614 
1328 1675.8039I had to1676.3763 
1330 1676.6094tell your mama to breathe1677.9103 
1332 1678.4885because she really didn't,1679.8175 
1334 1682.3016you know,1682.6793 
1336 1683.1363she gripped the steering wheel so tight.1685.0388 
1338 1685.8315You know what I'm saying.1686.8713 
1340 1688.0359And I was like, mama you got to breathe.1689.4720 
1342 1690.3440I say, now you got to breathe now.1691.8081 
1344 1692.6615You know.1693.0904 
1346 1693.7899And1694.2970 
1348 1695.3555really you know the thing was, man. We- we-1697.8501 
1350 1698.3304we were coming back1699.1138 
1352 1699.3376from the casino1700.2737 
1354 1701.0552and we hadn't did that- Me and mama hadn't did good.1704.0926 
1356 1704.6955You know what I'm saying. Actually I hadn't did good at all. Boy I had onl-1707.9476 
1358 1708.5212woo, I had onl- Boy I had it all messed up.1710.8946 
1360 1711.3784My money, the church's money. Boy the pastor, boy.1714.4792 
1361VLD_int_011715.0528[<laugh>]1715.7708
1362VLD_se0_ag3_m_011715.0761[Boy the building] fund1716.6615
1363 1717.0904boy I'm talking about I had done went down through it boy I'm talking about ooh wee.1720.6144
1365 1721.5125boy, I-1722.0440 
1367 1722.3611So,1722.8331 
1369 1725.1297but1725.5074 
1371 1726.8876the strangest thing happened.1728.5238 
1373 1729.3590You know what I'm saying.1730.2636 
1375 1730.6448So I- s- so sh- mama asked me, she was like,1733.0042 
1377 1733.4472well we gonna turn around, we gonna get on I-1735.1165 
1379 1735.4709you going?1736.0258 
1381 1736.3615And I'm like, yeah we going. That's my sister. Is you crazy?1738.9716 
1383 1739.7130You know what I'm saying /RD-NAME-2/'s in the car.1741.5401 
1385 1741.9465This was /RD-NAME-2/'s first road trip.1743.6333 
1387 1744.2302You know what I'm saying, so.1745.5871 
1389 1745.9927We was coming back. You know what I'm saying, so.1748.1750 
1391 1749.8385We came on back and, um,1751.6104 
1393 1752.0627we got everything together,1753.3263 
1395 1753.9978um,1754.5189 
1397 1754.7240Lisa, we had to end up buying a- um,1757.0275 
1399 1757.5160we had to end up buying a plug so Lisa could pump.1759.5735 
1401 1760.1318you know what I'm saying. But we- we made it home.1761.8800 
1403 1762.1184But this is what's crazy,1763.6104 
1405 1764.5290I came home-1765.5595 
1407 1766.5282I came home,1767.4841 
1409 1768.0436I had-1768.6032 
1411 1768.8596thirty two dollars to my name.1770.8227 
1413 1771.9658And I went to the, um, little casino that we got here,1775.1208 
1415 1775.9181and I was in there, I was like man,1777.4895 
1417 1778.6374man I won't tell mama.1779.6592 
1419 1780.2068We going somewhere. I ain't got no money to go no where.1782.6782 
1421 1783.1585You know what I'm saying. I don't finna be trying to go somewhere and I ain't got no money.1786.3187 
1423 1786.8643You know.1787.1814 
1425 1787.7316I know she got me,1788.7015 
1427 1789.2517you know what I'm saying. But still, I need some money.1791.3862 
1429 1792.3374So I was in there playing in the casino.1794.3518 
1431 1797.1204And I got down to my last two dollars.1799.3073 
1433 1800.8927Only had thirty two dollars with me.1802.3277 
1435 1803.1017I got down to my last two dollars.1804.7990 
1437 1805.3539And hit eleven ninety-nine on the dollar.1807.9092 
1438VLD_int_011809.3768Hm.1809.6426
1439VLD_se0_ag3_m_011811.2467eleven ninety-nine times a dollar.1812.7435
1441 1814.7905Yup sure did.1815.7172 
1443 1816.2768Gave me eleven hundred dollars and some change.1818.3373 
1445 1820.1796Yeah.1820.4920 
1447 1820.7660Sure did.1821.3489 
1449 1822.0576And I was like, oh thank you lord.1823.5917 
1451 1824.3331I need this money to go up the road.1825.8905 
1453 1827.4085It was meant for me to go, it was meant for me to be there.1829.6430 
1455 1830.4730So,1830.8414 
1457 1832.3895I told-1832.8826 
1459 1833.1752I told mama /all of a sudden/, we ain't got to worry about no gas.1835.6197 
1461 1836.2818She was like, no we can just go half on gas. I said, okay.1838.7672 
1463 1839.1577But if we go half on gas, I say I'm buying1841.1208 
1465 1841.4472the food on the way up here.1842.5849 
1467 1843.1678You know what I'm saying.1844.0957 
1469 1844.8324So,1845.2463 
1471 1847.0555and1847.5637 
1473 1848.4870I was able1849.2890 
1475 1850.0118to1850.5200 
1477 1851.4095put some money back.1852.2954 
1479 1853.2886You know what I'm saying. That I had went into that I wasn't supposed to go into.1856.8732 
1480VLD_int_011856.8872<laugh>1857.0365
1481VLD_se0_ag3_m_011857.4608Before it got [notified.]1858.9203
1482VLD_int_011858.2488[Mm-hm.]1858.5379
1483 1859.0788[Mm. Mm-hm. Mm-hm. Mm-hm.]1861.2144
1484VLD_se0_ag3_m_011859.0928[<laugh>]1860.7155
1485 1861.6900So I was able to put that back. You know what I'm saying, without a trace.1864.6125
1487 1865.3819You know what I'm saying so.1866.7481 
1489 1867.9465It- it- man, but1869.1309 
1491 1869.8525when we got there,1870.7337 
1493 1871.4099and1872.0347 
1495 1872.4683it- it hurt me so bad because1874.5056 
1497 1875.3722you know what I'm saying.1876.3327 
1499 1879.0512I-1879.2610 
1501 1879.7600My sister kno- well,1880.8278 
1503 1880.9991she probably do know,1881.9317 
1505 1882.7151how much1883.3679 
1507 1884.3005that, uh,1884.8787 
1509 1887.5261I really look up to her.1888.6265 
1511 1889.3399You know what I'm saying. She's going to get her PhD.1891.6527 
1513 1892.2997You know what I'm saying.1893.2183 
1515 1893.4841And1893.9644 
1517 1895.3073that means a lot to me. You know what I'm saying. I brag about it all the time.1898.5760 
1519 1899.1903You know what I'm saying.1900.0949 
1521 1900.3654My genius.1901.1254 
1523 1901.9554You know, cause she's my genius. I don't care1904.3044 
1525 1905.5214it could be1906.1322 
1527 1906.9156twenty other people that smarter her1908.5989 
1529 1909.0139in the whole wide world, but she my genius.1910.9677 
1531 1911.5540She's the smartest person I know.1912.8690 
1533 1913.6990I can put my hands on it.1914.9766 
1535 1915.8486You know. So,1916.6226 
1537 1918.0063for you to have1919.4285 
1539 1921.2191a speech impairment- impediment1923.4701 
1541 1924.1322you know what I'm saying, when you weren't speaking well.1926.0487 
1543 1926.9067And1927.7413 
1545 1929.7685that-1930.1089 
1547 1931.0695that you know,1931.8868 
1549 1933.6154you was kind of moving slowly kind of-1935.5680 
1551 1936.2954kind of messed me up, you know what I'm saying, because1938.6269 
1553 1939.9558I was like1940.4967 
1555 1941.2976no lord, you know.1942.5752 
1557 1943.0508She got so much more,1944.5380 
1559 1945.2844you know,1945.7646 
1561 1946.4967to do.1946.9630 
1563 1947.7452You know what I'm saying.1948.7244 
1565 1949.2871Don't hinder her now.1950.6875 
1567 1951.3963But1951.7693 
1569 1953.0271actually it's been a blessing1954.9016 
1571 1955.6244to you because now1957.1818 
1573 1957.5781you still1958.2216 
1575 1958.6401fought through,1959.3162 
1577 1960.2162you know what I'm saying. And1961.6010 
1578VLD_int_011962.8321Mm.1962.9766
1579VLD_se0_ag3_m_011962.9859the recovery of your speech,1964.6226
1581 1966.3001what you're doing now,1967.4751 
1583 1967.8762and you're still pushing.1969.1445 
1585 1970.0071You know what I'm saying. So,1971.1997 
1587 1971.8385you know.1972.2768 
1589 1972.6731God has the last say so.1974.0907 
1591 1974.7990You know,1975.2051 
1593 1975.7273and1976.2309 
1595 1977.8100it made me1978.7431 
1597 1979.8622lean1980.4389 
1599 1980.7761not onto my ow- own understanding1983.0329 
1601 1983.5680because you don't know1984.6032 
1603 1985.6057what plan,1986.5569 
1605 1987.8066or1988.3195 
1607 1988.7147what-1989.0085 
1609 1989.3489what god has for-1990.7384 
1611 1992.1419Or his purpose for this person.1994.0537 
1613 1994.7847So,1995.1997 
1615 1995.8944or what they have to go through sometimes.1997.9783 
1617 1998.3611Which I never want anybody- w- I would- I would never want that on- you know what I'm saying? [For you to have] to go through anything like that.2004.1186 
1618VLD_int_012002.2115[Mm-hm.]2002.7104
1619VLD_se0_ag3_m_012004.7668You know what I'm saying, but2005.8532
1621 2006.7380it's a story in that.2008.0530 
1623 2009.7363You know.2010.1699 
1625 2011.1631Look at you now.2011.9465 
1627 2013.1157You know what I'm saying.2014.0296 
1629 2015.6523And I'm- and I'm like, wow.2017.1165 
1631 2018.1796You know what I'm saying.2018.9956 
1633 2019.8291because I've- I've- I've-2021.1792 
1635 2021.3452I've known some people2022.5989 
1637 2023.1118that haven't recovered2024.1890 
1639 2025.3815from strokes.2026.2861 
1641 2027.2269You know what I'm saying.2028.2969 
1643 2028.9441Or- or if they did recover, you know what I'm saying, they have some-2031.9317 
1645 2033.3539You know they arm is not working, or they have, you know what I'm saying.2036.8935 
1647 2037.0254Things that's going on2038.5193 
1649 2038.9156that you can really tell.2040.0907 
1651 2040.7015You know what I'm saying.2041.5688 
1653 2042.0817But if-2042.7964 
1655 2042.9411if you don't tell nobody, nobody'll never know.2045.1581 
1657 2050.2115Yeah.2050.5099 
1658VLD_int_012051.4332Hm.2051.5684
1659VLD_se0_ag3_m_012052.3191I mean-2052.8181
1661 2053.2144So that was like,2054.1563 
1663 2055.6193<exhale>2056.4213 
1665 2057.8622motivation for me.2058.9113 
1667 2059.6559You know what I'm saying. to-2061.1437 
1669 2062.1594to try to do better and be better.2063.9228 
1671 2064.5989You know.2064.9113 
1673 2068.8457I say here it is.2069.9995 
1675 2071.0232I said now /RD-NAME-2/ done had a stroke, she still getting it.2073.4749 
1677 2077.6854Amazing.2078.2216 
1679 2081.1752You're just a doer.2081.9969 
1681 2082.9160You ever heard of that2083.6061 
1683 2084.8266that saying? Um,2086.3649 
1685 2087.3819you have some doers and you have some don'ters2089.5315 
1686VLD_int_012090.7847I haven't.2091.3815
1687VLD_se0_ag3_m_012091.6659You haven't never heard of that?2092.5799
1688VLD_int_012092.7571Mm-mm.2093.0928
1689VLD_se0_ag3_m_012093.1627You're a doer.2093.6896
1690VLD_int_012094.3378Well thank you.2094.8973
1691VLD_se0_ag3_m_012095.1305Yeah. You're a doer.2095.9745
1693 2096.8220No matter what it is, you'll do it.2098.1509 
1695 2099.1254You know what I'm saying?2099.9088 
1697 2100.2772that means that,2100.9719 
1699 2102.9339No matter what somebody says, or what obstacle comes,2105.8621 
1701 2106.0026you'll still do it.2106.9690 
1703 2107.6108You know.2107.9418 
1705 2110.7730You don't have a lot of doers you know what I'm saying (laughing).2112.7155 
1707 2113.4103You don't.2113.8214 
1709 2113.9406Not from this community.2115.1309 
1711 2115.6380You know what I'm saying.2116.5053 
1713 2117.3041But I see a lot of times,2118.7015 
1715 2119.3170you know-2119.7879 
1716VLD_int_012120.8791Hm.2121.1635
1717VLD_se0_ag3_m_012121.5125And2121.9690
1719 2123.7176you didn't-2124.0254 
1721 2126.7252You know, uh,2127.4608 
1723 2128.5752and2128.9389 
1725 2131.2144I was just actually talking to some- uh,2133.1064 
1727 2134.1369some guys the other day. You know what I'm saying.2136.1699 
1729 2137.1631And they was asking me,2138.1750 
1731 2138.5939well why- why you wait so late?2140.0343 
1733 2140.9203I say man, it ain't never too late man, to make a change, or I try to do something to better yourself.2145.2555 
1735 2146.0390I say man, I'm trying to better myself, it is not really-2148.4683 
1737 2149.1072it's just for me.2149.8812 
1739 2151.0038It's not2151.4421 
1741 2152.2721for you,2152.7897 
1743 2153.2886it's not for2154.0953 
1745 2154.9253my wife, or my son.2156.6552 
1747 2157.4002It's,2157.6240 
1749 2157.8525you know2158.2348 
1751 2158.3934I would like to be in a position where-2159.9228 
1753 2160.5849You know what I'm saying.2161.4988 
1755 2161.6574Wait when my son is in the2163.1355 
1757 2163.5121seventh grade and he doing math I-2165.4332 
1759 2165.9554I know what he talking about.2167.1491 
1760VLD_int_012167.7646[Mm-hm.]2168.2123
1761VLD_se0_ag3_m_012167.7786[You know] what I'm saying, that I can help him.2169.4095
1762 2170.0670But,2170.4260
1764 2170.7710you know what I'm saying, when your son doing seventh grade math can you help?2173.8605 
1766 2177.5680I said man, th- that's something to think about man. Don't you wanna be in a- in a position man where you can help your children?2182.4260 
1767VLD_int_012182.7011Right.2183.0415
1768VLD_se0_ag3_m_012183.8739You know what I'm saying, with they homework.2185.1165
1770 2185.8240If he's reading something and it's not correct, don't you wanna be able to-2188.9313 
1772 2189.1577be able to correct it?2190.1654 
1774 2190.9561Well that's a run-on sentence there son.2192.6844 
1776 2193.4260You know what I'm saying.2194.3091 
1778 2195.4479That's a prepositional phrase. You know what I'm saying. You wanna know those little things.2199.0977 
1780 2199.4656You know what I'm saying. And i- it's a lot of little things that I had to learn all over again.2203.0202 
1782 2204.2655I'm talking about <exhale>2205.3921 
1784 2205.8166pronouns,2206.6827 
1786 2207.3842adverbs,2208.3805 
1788 2210.1184um,2210.6675 
1790 2211.9864how to use, um,2213.2483 
1792 2214.0125transitional words, uh, when you're writing a essay.2217.0864 
1793VLD_int_012217.6185<laugh>2218.0261
1794VLD_se0_ag3_m_012218.0940I'm telling you man it's- i- hey, you know.2220.1937
1796 2220.9013My plate has been full.2222.1240 
1798 2222.4920You know what saying (laughing), I'm telling you.2224.1336 
1800 2224.7676Oh,2225.2994 
1802 2225.4351what is a quadratic? You know what I'm saying, oh man.2228.3391 
1804 2229.4147Shoot, factoring quadratics. Woah.2232.0172 
1806 2233.1334You know what I'm saying, uh.2234.8826 
1808 2235.7770Using the calculator and using the square root button and then having to type something else with the parenthesis and all that.2241.6921 
1810 2242.3318And- and then trying to get it to factor this, sometimes you can't type it all in.2246.1976 
1812 2246.6788You gotta type a certain portion of the problem in.2248.8582 
1814 2249.4521You know what I'm saying. And then do that and then come back.2252.1693 
1816 2252.4637And then you still got to solve it.2253.9921 
1818 2254.3940Aw man.2255.2658 
1820 2256.2220It's been a /bitch/ much for the guy.2257.6485 
1821VLD_int_012257.7391[<laugh>]2260.0261
1822VLD_se0_ag3_m_012258.6052[You- psh, hey]2259.5352
1824 2259.6471[I'm talking about] I been down the road.2261.2030 
1825 2261.7295I'm talking about my head, boy I come home some- and some days man, and I just go straight to sleep2265.8053
1827 2266.3940cause my head hurt.2267.2994 
1829 2267.9672I'm physically-2268.9692 
1831 2270.5486It's like I- I be physically beat up.2272.6544 
1833 2274.2786Yeah.2274.7258 
1835 2277.4090I leave out the classroom sometime, man, I be in the classroom sweating.2280.6975 
1837 2281.7334And I be like, wow.2282.8090 
1839 2285.0841And man, this is- this is just basic.2287.0768 
1841 2288.2203Man we ain't even got into no calculus or h-2290.7167 
1843 2291.0785I say man, I don't- What?2292.7314 
1845 2293.1956Them people that's doing calculus2294.7127 
1847 2295.0750I say, man,2295.9129 
1849 2296.2072how can they sleep?2297.1860 
1850VLD_int_012297.5653<laugh>2298.6748
1851VLD_se0_ag3_m_012300.5643Man I was sitting there watching this girl,2302.3261
1853 2303.0105we was sitting at the table,2304.1937 
1855 2305.2969<ts>2305.3650 
1857 2305.6372she was doing this problem.2306.9901 
1859 2307.8166The problem took up-2308.9318 
1861 2310.0635The answer to the problem,2311.4277 
1863 2312.1297took up half the paper.2313.5223 
1865 2321.0502And I was like,2321.8073 
1867 2322.3522so that's the answer?2323.3202 
1869 2325.6179And where did you get that?2326.6148 
1871 2327.7578And then I was like, you know what2329.0088 
1872VLD_int_012329.0937[<laugh>]2330.8316
1873VLD_se0_ag3_m_012330.2599[Don't even.]2330.8833
1874 2331.2052Ma'am,2331.6411
1876 2332.6827ma'am.2333.1186 
1878 2333.4861You know what,2334.0635 
1880 2334.5956some things are just not for everybody.2336.4920 
1882 2336.8656Yeah that's one of them things. That's- that's yeah.2339.1582 
1884 2339.8144You continue on ma'am.2341.0171 
1885VLD_int_012341.5353[<laugh>]2342.3222
1886VLD_se0_ag3_m_012341.9202[I say I'm] not gonna even waste your time.2343.7883
1887 2344.6997She started laughing.2345.8370
1889 2346.2673She say seriously? She- she say, do you want me to explain it? I say look ma'am,2349.7091 
1891 2350.4620first of all,2351.2884 
1893 2353.0541I don't even wanna waste your time with you is- trying to explain that to me because2356.8073 
1895 2358.2503I know I can't comprehend right now.2360.1353 
1897 2360.9845Because some of the things that you- And some of the terminology that you gonna use,2364.6552 
1899 2365.0994I'm not gonna know what the flip you talking about.2367.5392 
1900VLD_int_012367.7996[<laugh>]2368.3544
1901VLD_se0_ag3_m_012368.2072[So],2368.6657
1902 2368.9822just to save yourself some trouble and me some trouble,2371.1164
1904 2372.0221you know. And save us, maybe2373.8676 
1906 2374.5582fifteen, twenty minute conversation.2376.3861 
1908 2377.1220I'm'a just,2377.7354 
1910 2377.8376um,2378.2203 
1912 2378.7019drink my coffee.2379.6185 
1914 2380.7445And just continue to watch you work.2382.2163 
1916 2384.7184Yeah.2385.0920 
1917VLD_int_012385.5732So- so you didn't get the explanation of that?2387.6389
1918VLD_se0_ag3_m_012387.8087No I didn't- I didn't, uh, no.2389.9202
1919VLD_int_012390.5316So you good?2391.0581
1920VLD_se0_ag3_m_012391.3468I'm good.2391.8449
1922 2392.2299Yeah I was good.2393.0665 
1923VLD_int_012393.7238Mkay.2394.1540
1924VLD_se0_ag3_m_012394.2390Yeah I was good on that one.2395.4843
1925VLD_int_012396.9983So we go- I'm'a ask you a couple more things. And then I'll let you go cause I know you gotta2400.6665
1927 2401.5491get to sleep. And get Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ down.2403.6096 
1929 2404.0115Um,2404.6512 
1931 2406.4452so let's talk ab- a little bit about,2408.2171 
1933 2408.9756um,2409.7908 
1935 2410.9852going back to kind of the community, you- like they're people, that are doers2414.1378 
1937 2414.9020like2415.1341 
1939 2415.5474<clears throat>2416.2889 
1941 2416.7475if you could kind of give-2418.1744 
1943 2419.7698If you could change one thing about Valdosta,2422.1587 
1945 2423.2400what would it be?2423.8627 
1946VLD_se0_ag3_m_012425.2434One thing about Valdosta?2426.5850
1947VLD_int_012426.6020Mm-hm.2426.9133
1948VLD_se0_ag3_m_012427.8134If I could change-2428.6625
1950 2431.7982Hm.2432.0359 
1952 2433.3310If I could change one thing about here.2435.0127 
1954 2443.5491One thing I could change about2444.9303 
1956 2445.9493Valdosta,2446.6003 
1958 2448.1895I would change the good ole boy system.2449.6510 
1959VLD_int_012450.4465Mm.2450.7465
1961 2451.3070Explain.2451.8221 
1962VLD_se0_ag3_m_012452.5071The for them by them.2453.5090
1964 2454.9978Uh.2455.6092 
1966 2458.8750Uh, that's kind of hard to explain.2460.4934 
1968 2461.4337Well,2461.8583 
1970 2465.5034you have certain-2466.3808 
1972 2468.3220In smaller towns you-2469.6534 
1974 2469.7641Well, even in larger towns,2471.5090 
1976 2472.1544or2472.4974 
1978 2472.6039larger cities,2473.4960 
1980 2473.9766but you have more people,2475.0522 
1982 2475.7372but2476.0032 
1984 2476.3485in this2477.1656 
1986 2477.3913particular area,2478.5563 
1988 2479.1960you have2479.9658 
1990 2481.1937families of power,2482.4504 
1992 2482.9599[you know.]2483.4241 
1993VLD_int_012482.9991[Mm-hm.]2483.3954
1994VLD_se0_ag3_m_012484.0015So-2484.4997
1996 2485.7672And which-2486.2958 
1998 2486.4278which creates.2487.4202 
2000 2488.0146a- a- a system of2489.8826 
2002 2492.7182them,2493.2390 
2004 2493.9636and then, us,2495.0877 
2006 2496.6582you know.2497.0318 
2008 2498.0446They make the rules, we have to play by the rules.2500.3655 
2010 2500.9939When the rules don't apply to them, they break the rules and then make more rules.2504.8937 
2012 2506.9753I would change that system,2508.3525 
2014 2508.9525where everybody get a fair shake.2510.2432 
2016 2512.3259Everybody deserves a fair shake, I feel like.2514.5733 
2018 2515.4413You know. No matter what- what- what, you know.2517.8844 
2020 2519.0517At the end of the day, you know what I'm saying2521.4281 
2022 2522.6843people change.2523.7598 
2024 2525.3958And I feel like,2526.1430 
2026 2527.4733if you're willing2528.5489 
2028 2528.7692and you're really trying,2530.0995 
2030 2530.9090you know what I'm saying,2531.7638 
2032 2532.3298it should be shot.2533.4167 
2034 2533.9540You know what I'm saying, you should have your shot.2535.3183 
2036 2536.4052You know.2536.7731 
2038 2538.3525More often than not,2539.8898 
2040 2540.0516people don't really get a shot.2541.3862 
2041VLD_int_012542.1051Mm.2542.3938
2042VLD_se0_ag3_m_012542.7958You know.2543.1580
2044 2544.0525But2544.3412 
2046 2545.2186that's something that, um,2546.6561 
2048 2547.0465I kind of wanna-2547.7994 
2050 2550.9582Kind of one of the reasons I'm- I'm going I'm going to school too.2553.4768 
2052 2554.0542You know what I'm saying, because I know2555.5373 
2054 2556.4261a lot of these-2557.1538 
2056 2557.3539our youth2558.1526 
2058 2558.8824are mislead, you know.2560.2523 
2060 2561.1524Our youth need some guidance. And then2563.2809 
2062 2563.9167they look up to a lot of these cats that's on these streets.2566.5297 
2064 2567.2430And2567.7977 
2066 2568.3582they listening to these-2569.5526 
2068 2570.0672these rap guys talking about2571.6183 
2070 2572.3259this money,2573.0052 
2072 2574.0694you know what I'm saying. And going out there trying to get this money,2576.5257 
2074 2577.2900but2577.6087 
2076 2577.7577they don't understand the consequences of2579.7015 
2078 2580.2563what come with getting that money.2581.5809 
2079VLD_int_012581.8922Right.2582.1866
2080VLD_se0_ag3_m_012582.6220You know.2583.0862
2082 2583.8617It's a lot that go with h-2585.3908 
2084 2585.7468having money.2586.4997 
2086 2587.1494You know what I'm saying, and then having it2588.6495 
2088 2589.6623from the ways that you obtain it.2591.0153 
2090 2593.1664You know.2593.5457 
2092 2594.5321A man that works a-2595.7242 
2094 2596.5851a nice job,2597.5644 
2096 2597.8304he goes home and sleeps well at night.2599.6929 
2098 2600.6382A man that2601.4307 
2100 2602.2397hustles from these streets and obtains large sums of money,2605.3079 
2102 2605.8514he don't sleep well.2606.8420 
2104 2609.8587Doesn't sleep- He don't sleep well.2611.5344 
2106 2612.4797If he sleep at all.2613.5270 
2108 2615.3493You know.2615.7455 
2110 2616.9626Through the aspects of2618.2137 
2112 2619.1364the ways he's2620.0492 
2114 2620.1429getting his money and- and then guess what, it's always somebody wanna take it.2623.5170 
2115VLD_int_012624.3212Mm.2624.6722
2116VLD_se0_ag3_m_012625.8905So,2626.3473
2118 2627.8078you have to know what you truly wanna do- and- and what you truly-2630.7288 
2120 2631.4591what you're truly dealing with.2632.7039 
2122 2633.9720So,2634.3909 
2124 2635.2909you know most of these cats, man they-2636.9383 
2126 2638.6360You know and- and- and-2639.4512 
2128 2640.1248and I hate to say-2641.0249 
2130 2641.9080You know I- I hate to keep2643.1024 
2132 2643.4302laying it on the rappers,2644.9530 
2134 2645.6380but2645.9267 
2136 2646.7871you know,2647.2174 
2138 2648.3536with technology now,2649.4987 
2140 2650.8623psh,2651.2644 
2142 2652.1135that's who growing your children up.2653.5627 
2144 2654.7118If you ain't doing something2656.2397 
2146 2656.7719within your own household,2658.1871 
2148 2659.7665y- your children growing up off of Facebook.2661.9629 
2150 2662.8794Um,2663.6889 
2152 2664.3399what's the other thing,2665.4768 
2154 2665.6386um,2666.2759 
2156 2666.9383the, uh, the other2668.2511 
2158 2668.6983thing that you can do,2669.7002 
2160 2670.3739um,2671.0136 
2162 2671.3079[Snapchat.]2672.2080 
2163VLD_int_012671.3192[Snapchat.]2672.2137
2164 2672.6609[Mm-hm.]2673.1703
2165VLD_se0_ag3_m_012673.0062[You know.]2673.4364
2166 2674.8681You know, tha- that's how these children are living.2676.9060
2168 2677.5570You know what I'm saying. Listening to Juju On That Beat.2680.3556 
2170 2681.6550You know what I'm saying. They- they know Juju On The Beat before they know [ABC's.]2685.5157 
2171VLD_int_012685.1703[Mm-hm.]2685.5723
2172VLD_se0_ag3_m_012686.4265You know.2686.7832
2174 2687.9380And that's sad.2688.8992 
2176 2689.9646You ask them the Juju,2691.1647 
2178 2693.2150then turn around,2694.1531 
2180 2694.6513and tell 'em, hey,2695.5174 
2182 2696.4514you now count to twenty five.2698.0082 
2184 2700.4305They gonna sing the whole Juju and do the dance,2702.7070 
2186 2703.5159but you can't count to twenty five.2705.0889 
2188 2707.6985So.2708.2420 
2190 2709.3453In our- In my community man,2711.2191 
2192 2712.3795we need some help.2713.3079 
2194 2714.4854We need the hel- But, but the thing is we have to help ourselves,2717.8418 
2196 2718.3343it comes from within.2719.6306 
2198 2720.2137You know, we need to get back to the-2722.1437 
2200 2722.6813the basis of us,2723.9720 
2202 2724.3343as people,2725.1494 
2204 2725.6306looking out for other peoples2727.4477 
2206 2728.0586in our community.2729.0549 
2208 2729.5417Because guess what, our youth is-2731.3759 
2210 2732.5080<exhale>2733.0741 
2212 2733.3736our youth is lost.2734.4379 
2214 2735.5531I see a lot of 'em man.2736.8551 
2216 2737.8287A lot of 'em already having babies.2739.7478 
2218 2740.9983A lot of 'em don't care,2742.0625 
2220 2742.4645you know.2742.9456 
2222 2744.0608/Manage to-/2744.7345 
2224 2745.5369They- they mommy and daddy stayed with they mommy and daddy, so I guess it's okay.2749.0192 
2226 2750.0552You know what I'm saying.2750.9156 
2227VLD_int_012750.9383Mm.2751.3798
2228VLD_se0_ag3_m_012751.9114And I can see2752.6869
2230 2753.3153if you-2753.6606 
2232 2754.6399if you using that as a stepping stone,2756.6212 
2234 2757.1364well one day you wanna2758.2963 
2236 2758.8738move and2759.6776 
2238 2761.1947be over here,2762.0269 
2240 2762.1967you know what I'm saying, and then you- you had a point where you financially stable, as you-2765.9154 
2242 2766.3003as you move out from mommy and daddy.2768.0608 
2244 2768.6552Now that's totally a different thing.2770.4492 
2246 2770.9435But just staying with your mommy and daddy to be staying with your mommy and daddy. And you got your wife and your children there too,2775.7552 
2248 2776.6095you know what I'm saying.2777.4926 
2250 2778.4215And then you raising your children to do the same thing.2781.0612 
2252 2782.1510And then they children will- I- uh- It's a pattern.2784.3700 
2253VLD_int_012785.3833Yeah.2785.6954
2255 2785.8742That's true.2786.2947 
2256VLD_se0_ag3_m_012786.3740It's- it's going to be a pattern.2787.7321
2258 2788.2755You know.2788.8643 
2260 2790.3047And- and I would just, you know.2791.8928 
2262 2792.8155I would just love to2794.0887 
2264 2794.7659be an influence of some type to my community.2797.6909 
2266 2798.6004To-2799.0873 
2268 2801.8323the violence.2802.7934 
2270 2802.9850To stop the violence.2804.5778 
2272 2805.0476And2805.6132 
2274 2806.3265see so m-2807.1133 
2276 2807.7247so much of this potential,2809.0437 
2278 2809.9721that's going to waste man.2811.4099 
2280 2811.8849Turn around,2812.7454 
2282 2813.1813and do something great.2814.1436 
2284 2815.7520Because, it's- it's a lot of wasted2817.2288 
2286 2818.3151opportunities here.2819.4700 
2288 2820.5342You know what I'm saying, but that's because2822.3740 
2290 2827.6168of the system. And- and they way they got it designed.2830.4402 
2292 2830.9963They got it designed2832.2417 
2294 2832.8526for you to stay in trouble,2834.2565 
2296 2835.9368because2836.4076 
2298 2836.8285they making money off of trouble.2838.3096 
2300 2839.2602You know what I'm saying.2840.1716 
2302 2840.6584So,2841.0943 
2304 2842.2378if you can get these cats to understand, hey, look,2844.6156 
2306 2847.1806they make a profit off of you,2848.4238 
2308 2850.1059doing the foolishness.2851.5381 
2310 2851.8998You know what I'm saying.2852.7546 
2312 2854.1819They win regardless.2855.4379 
2314 2855.9813Well,2856.2361 
2316 2856.6946why not-2857.1871 
2318 2858.2225why not if you gonna do something,2859.6604 
2320 2860.1529make it2860.5265 
2322 2861.1775l- let you win off yourself.2862.8531 
2323VLD_int_012864.6188Mm-hm.2865.0547
2324VLD_se0_ag3_m_012865.3151You know what I'm saying.2866.2321
2326 2866.9058Invest in self.2868.1042 
2328 2870.7716You know.2871.2301 
2330 2872.5388We- we have to do- Y- you know what I'm saying, we need more investing in self.2875.8483 
2332 2876.6410You know, more businesses.2878.0258 
2334 2878.4548I ain't just saying college is the way for everybody, everybody's not college material.2882.7032 
2335VLD_int_012883.2705Right.2883.5316
2336VLD_se0_ag3_m_012884.5574Everybody can't go to a vocational school.2886.8551
2338 2887.6198You know what I'm saying.2888.6363 
2340 2889.4010But it's- it's something that you can do,2891.3081 
2342 2892.3188you know what I'm saying, that you need to create2893.9415 
2344 2894.3658you some-2894.9440 
2346 2896.3196You need to create you some money off of that.2898.0495 
2348 2898.4541You know what I'm saying, whatever it may be.2899.9648 
2350 2900.6829You know what I'm saying. If you sell ice cream the best, you need to sell ice cream,2903.8444 
2352 2904.9064you know what I'm saying.2905.6711 
2354 2906.2773And then, you know.2907.2705 
2356 2908.4362And then go from there.2909.5413 
2358 2910.5287I'm still trying to tap into what I- w- what I do the best. I don't know yet.2914.1191 
2360 2914.7952I mean I'm forty one years old and I'm still searching.2917.2136 
2362 2917.8856I still ask god, what is it that-2919.6621 
2364 2920.8092what is it- gi- what gift do I have.2922.8737 
2366 2923.6105You know what I'm saying.2924.4824 
2368 2925.9559You know.2926.3289 
2370 2927.9097I'm still searching myself.2929.2841 
2372 2930.3798You know, sometimes, huh,2931.5969 
2374 2932.5481some of us are later bloomers than other-2934.2307 
2376 2934.7385others, you know.2935.4426 
2378 2936.2073Some people find they gift <snap> right off.2938.0119 
2380 2938.8279You know what I'm saying.2939.6718 
2382 2941.2980And then- and tap into it and- and <snap> <sound effect>2943.5595 
2384 2944.0293and fly.2944.5201 
2386 2945.4247You know.2945.7325 
2388 2945.9609I was looking at these young guys man.2947.5732 
2390 2948.5570Uh, I've seen a couple of young cats man that I've seen on YouTube man.2951.6159 
2392 2952.2489They really making moves.2953.6478 
2394 2954.6923You know what I'm saying.2955.6015 
2396 2956.0911As far as the- the- the business world.2957.8024 
2398 2958.3421They're doing things boom, boom, boom (while snapping).2960.8181 
2400 2961.3590Investments. and2962.3743 
2402 2962.9118things of that sort.2963.7604 
2404 2964.4671I was like dang man.2965.6198 
2406 2966.8181I ain't never thought of that.2967.7228 
2408 2968.5388You know what I'm saying, that ain't when I did have a little- but I shoulda did that like this2971.8389 
2410 2972.4871You know what I'm saying. I coulda been over here.2974.1051 
2412 2974.5434You know what I'm saying, but you know,2975.8863 
2414 2977.4659now,2977.8762 
2416 2978.6783when you do get some money like that, you know2980.6647 
2418 2981.1606you try to2981.7325 
2420 2981.9878put some away.2982.8131 
2422 2983.4985You can't do everything, you know.2985.0839 
2424 2985.5642Can't spend everything2986.6647 
2426 2987.1309on the day.2987.7185 
2428 2988.3468You know what I'm saying, because you ain't gonna have nothing for tomorrow.2990.3892 
2430 2991.0560And it is a tomorrow.2992.1377 
2432 2993.0097You know. Especially if you have children.2994.7851 
2434 2995.5965Their tomorrow is what you're worrying about, cause it's no longer about your tomorrow.2999.0703 
2436 2999.7231It's about their tomorrow.3000.8318 
2438 3001.7084How can you3002.4405 
2440 3002.6586have something for them,3004.0253 
2442 3004.9118so,3005.3408 
2444 3005.8898they won't have to struggle,3007.1224 
2446 3007.2501like you.3007.7317 
2447VLD_int_013008.3425Mm.3008.5850
2448VLD_se0_ag3_m_013008.6876You know what I'm saying. And that's my biggest picture. So y- That's why,3011.5162
2450 3013.4892you know,3013.9042 
2452 3016.2077I went back to school.3017.3501 
2454 3018.8644You know what I'm saying, because3020.3285 
2456 3021.2705I wanna be able to3022.5667 
2458 3023.5075be a help to my community and my son.3025.7037 
2460 3030.3282[And] I think I can do it.3031.3260 
2461VLD_int_013030.5007[Mm.]3030.6126
2462 3032.1234I think you can too- I know you can.3034.0818
2463VLD_se0_ag3_m_013034.3942Uh,3034.6320
2465 3035.0004so,3035.3641 
2467 3036.2209that's my biggest thing.3037.2841 
2469 3038.8601You know.3039.2331 
2471 3039.5362That kind of summed your question up?3040.9165 
2472VLD_int_013041.1729That did.3041.7744