Line	Speaker	St Time	Content	En Time
1	VLD_int_01	1.1270	Okay.	1.5654
3		2.2555	So,	2.7264
5		2.8197	tell me a little bit about	4.7536
7		6.2691	growing up in Valdosta. You grew up, you said, in South Street.	9.0017
8	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	9.3747	[Yeah.]	9.6853
9	VLD_int_01	9.3747	[Can] you describe your house for me?	10.7783
10	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	11.7097	We had a small house at first, and then we moved	15.0204
12		15.4354	to a larger house	16.6850
14		16.9042	on South Street. /RD-ADDRESS-5/	19.2811
16		20.1717	And we was about a block from my	22.5265
18		23.0383	elementary school, which was South Street Elementary School.	26.4841
20		27.3733	Walking distance.	28.6696
22		29.7047	So, we went there	30.6839
24		30.8145	I went to-	31.3787
26		31.6492	there for, until I was seventh grade.	34.8787
28		35.5129	Then we had	36.4221
30		36.5049	go	36.7380
32		36.8313	to /RD-SCHOOL-4/	38.4540
34		38.5286	over on	39.0788
36		39.3866	Troop Street.	40.2352
38		41.8346	We walked there because there was no busses but we were close enough to walk to school.	47.0745
40		47.2331	But some people didn't. They had to come from way cross town and	50.5006
42		50.9156	Tom Town and everywhere, you know	52.9486
44		53.1305	back over here.	54.0025
46		54.3430	We only had two	55.3922
48		56.0264	elementary school. That was Magnolia	58.1748
50		58.3846	and South Street.	59.4431
51	VLD_int_01	60.2824	And neither of them are	61.3036
53		61.6114	still.	62.1709
54	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	62.7631	No.	63.1511
55	VLD_int_01	63.1511	/Uh/.	63.3423
57		63.7200	[I've never] heard of South S-	64.7458
58	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	63.8179	[No.]	64.0510
59	VLD_int_01	64.8904	South	65.3240
61		65.4546	[Street School.]	66.2100
62	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	65.4639	[Mm-hm.]	65.9115
63		66.3452	Where I lived, So-	67.0260
65		67.4223	South Street. Where the- where the south	69.2344
67		70.0224	where'd you go down there, /over there/ Pineview?	72.1580
68	VLD_int_01	72.8341	Mm-hm.	73.3750
69	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	73.4403	That's was South Street	74.7354
71		75.8032	campus.	76.5213
73		76.8990	They tore it down	78.0881
75		79.2911	and put	79.7469
77		79.9054	e-	80.0547
79		80.4836	that school there.	81.4255
80	VLD_int_01	81.7240	Oh.	82.1436
81	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	82.2182	[Mm-hm.]	82.6705
82	VLD_int_01	82.2695	[Okay.]	82.6705
83		83.2161	And,	83.8922
85		84.0041	when you started going to schools, was it segregated?	86.1819
86	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	86.8627	Yes.	87.8559
88		88.6719	We didn't know anything about the other side of town. (laughing)	91.3993
90		91.7863	Well,	92.0987
92		92.5137	what the white folks did. <laugh>	94.7900
94		95.5286	And we always had to get handy downs.	98.1426
96		98.6135	You know, they would have the best	100.4449
98		100.5195	books,	101.3682
100		102.3287	desks,	103.2986
102		103.9887	any kind of equipment. And we got 'em when they	106.4869
104		106.9485	was getting new ones.	108.2728
105	VLD_int_01	108.3614	[Mm.]	108.6505
106	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	108.5525	[So,] we was able to get	109.7742
107		109.9281	their books. And now, we never had new books	112.4216
109		112.6641	even through high school.	113.9930
111		115.2566	finished /RD-SCHOOL-4/ in nineteen	117.6980
113		118.7518	fifty-four.	119.9175
115		120.5890	Still,	121.2791
117		121.4936	had no	122.2058
119		123.0358	new books. No new nothing.	124.8171
120	VLD_int_01	126.5423	Wow.	126.8501
121	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	126.9433	It was always hand me down.	128.5229
122	VLD_int_01	128.9612	Do you feel like you got a good education?	130.4254
123	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	131.0549	I think so, because	132.5796
125		133.9505	during that time, the teachers was	135.8914
127		136.1666	they were black too, you know.	137.5374
129		137.9058	So, they always see that we	139.8771
131		140.1475	learned	140.9822
133		141.5837	and most of 'em knew your parents.	143.4115
135		143.6167	So, if they knew your parents, they was gonna get with your parents and talk.	146.9542
137		147.2853	It wasn't no such thing as PTA and	149.7006
139		150.3768	stuff like that. But, they would just	152.0776
141		152.1895	come back cause	153.2246
143		153.5277	telephones wasn't in use.	154.9732
145		155.4488	[<laugh>]	155.7566
146	VLD_int_01	155.4488	[<laugh>]	156.3395
147	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	156.4700	Telephones wasn't e-	157.9053
149		158.2690	<laugh>	158.6560
151		159.1585	First telephone we had,	160.7485
153		161.2055	I think we had to put a quarter in it or something on the wall	164.4369
155		164.8565	to use it.	165.6574
157		166.3429	And that was real rare.	167.6904
159		167.7790	You was a-	168.1894
161		168.3759	you was something if you had a telephone. <laugh>	170.7633
162	VLD_int_01	171.3497	<laugh>	171.7040
164		171.9838	Now, how many of i- wa- how many were there? Were there- you. How many brothers and [sisters was it?]	175.8354
165	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	175.5789	[I had] six. Three girls and three boys.	178.0584
166	VLD_int_01	178.5993	And y'all all [lived in the-]	179.5086
167	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	179.1495	[All lived] in same house.	180.8935
168		181.5043	See, it wasn't no everybody had they own room.	183.9279
170		184.3708	We had	184.7672
172		184.9537	thr-	185.1076
174		185.2661	two bedroom.	186.1474
176		186.5484	The girls had a bedroom, the boys had a bedroom,	188.9813
178		189.2517	and your parents had a bedroom.	190.6926
180		191.2475	But, that was about it.	192.2127
182		193.4996	We shared everything.	194.7120
183	VLD_int_01	195.1958	And what	195.5595
185		195.6854	number are you?	196.3755
186	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	197.6158	Mm.	198.4971
188		199.0660	I'm the	199.6115
190		201.9605	Fourth one.	202.4921
191	VLD_int_01	202.7532	You're the [fourth.]	203.4008
192	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	203.3221	[Yeah.]	203.6345
193	VLD_int_01	203.7231	[Okay.]	204.0961
194	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	203.8396	[Mm-hm.]	204.2080
195		204.3199	Yeah. [Four.]	204.7582
196	VLD_int_01	204.6696	[So,] did you. You didn't have-	205.6349
197		205.7608	you didn't have as much responsibility because you weren't the oldest,	208.1220
199		208.2339	but you weren't the baby either.	209.1711
200	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	209.2364	No.	209.6841
202		209.7913	But, we all shared everything. Everybody had to	212.1880
204		212.2906	do something.	212.9341
205	VLD_int_01	213.7117	So, what was your chores? Or what was your responsibility in the house?	216.7472
206	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	216.0004	<ts>	216.0986
207		216.9990	Well, we all had to	218.2440
209		218.4958	clean up the kitchen. We had a w-	220.0194
211		220.3598	uh,	220.7934
213		221.8379	a week a piece to	222.6912
215		222.8778	clean the kitchen.	223.7777
217		224.9061	And one, um,	226.1267
219		226.4810	my oldest sister, I think, she used to iron, but we all help washed.	230.5098
221		231.0740	Cause it wasn't no washing machines inside. You [had the rub] bowls and	234.8451
222	VLD_int_01	233.4463	[<laugh>]	234.0851
223	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	236.7989	Had three tubs.	238.0651
225		238.2842	<laugh>	238.6073
227		239.2601	A ru- a rub bowl tub and then	241.3603
228	VLD_int_01	239.4040	[/inaudible/]	239.6698
229	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	241.4452	two wrenching tubs, you hung them out	243.3337
231		244.0284	and even they had those old	245.4693
233		245.6791	big	245.9589
235		246.2993	pots, you know, people used to ball clothes. A-	248.8295
237		249.0393	I don't know why.	249.8973
239		250.1444	But, they did.	250.9045
241		251.4360	Cause I thought they were tearing them up, balling them.	253.5805
242	VLD_int_01	253.7111	[Hm.]	254.2053
243	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	253.9431	[<laugh>]	254.8244
244	VLD_int_01	254.6285	[To make] the water real [high?]	255.7056
245	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	255.6077	[Uh-huh.]	256.3584
246		256.4937	Mm-hm.	256.8760
247	VLD_int_01	256.8993	Oh, like the [cauldron?]	257.8925
248	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	257.6827	[Yeah.]	258.2096
249	VLD_int_01	258.3588	And they would	258.7785
250	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	260.1074	I s- It was something like a	261.3699
252		261.4865	kettle.	261.9201
254		262.0973	A big old	262.9040
256		263.7200	iron pot.	264.4801
257	VLD_int_01	264.5966	Mm-hm.	264.9976
258	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	265.0816	And they	265.4126
260		265.4919	put that water in and then put fire up under.	267.7616
262		269.5428	And had a s-	270.1630
264		270.3122	something called a balance stick they keep jugging in there (laughing). <laugh>	274.0181
266		274.9600	[I-]	275.1092
267	VLD_int_01	274.9600	[But] y'all didn't do that?	275.8086
268	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	275.9298	No.	276.3215
270		276.6759	Mm-mm.	277.0489
271	VLD_int_01	277.1702	And your clothes was just fine?	278.2846
272	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	278.4152	Just [fine.]	278.9654
273	VLD_int_01	278.8442	[And] then you hung them up on the [line?]	280.2512
274	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	280.1113	[A line.]	280.8014
275		280.9786	Mm-hm.	281.2817
276	VLD_int_01	281.6314	So,	282.3309
278		283.4733	going back to school, what was your	284.5178
280		284.6230	favorite subject and who was your favorite teacher?	286.6719
281	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	288.2796	Mm.	288.7039
283		290.2566	Okay, I’m’a go back that far.	291.5789
284	VLD_int_01	291.6348	<laugh>	292.8798
285	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	294.2869	Mm.	294.4501
287		294.8371	Well, I had one teacher. Ms. /RD-NAME-2/.	297.3551
289		298.3145	/RD-NAME-4/.	299.6714
291		300.2076	She was my third grade teacher.	302.0122
293		302.8049	She was always just so.	304.0685
295		304.3949	She had no children, and she likeded all children.	307.3155
297		307.3854	You know how she just	308.4905
299		308.5978	was just a mother-like	309.7064
301		309.8649	[teacher.]	310.3359
302	VLD_int_01	310.0090	[Mm.]	310.2833
303	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	310.8155	I remember that in	311.9726
305		312.0845	third grade.	312.9611
307		316.7229	And when I got to high school,	318.4342
309		319.7724	Mrs./RD-NAME-2/.	321.1620
311		322.0826	/She/ lived on Magnolia Street.	323.7441
313		324.8072	She was our	325.4787
315		325.6652	third grade teacher. She was strict.	327.4546
317		327.5152	But, if you	328.6017
319		329.2218	would get her lesson, you would pass. You know?	331.6605
320	VLD_int_01	331.7417	[Mm-hm.	332.0290
321	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	331.8890	[You] had to study.	332.8309
322		333.0128	And she see that you study,	334.5970
324		335.3804	And my	335.7814
326		335.9632	a- other teacher was my English teacher. Ms. /RD-NAME-5/.	339.0781
328		340.9934	And.	341.4177
330		341.9493	She was struck.	342.8259
332		343.4367	But, she was a good. [<laugh>]	345.9498
333	VLD_int_01	344.1735	[<laugh>]	345.9498
334	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	347.0583	Uh-huh.	347.5432
336		348.7043	Yeah. So,	349.5576
338		350.2920	that's about it about that school, I think.	352.4742
340		352.6701	Just put it right [together] right now.	354.4140
341	VLD_int_01	353.6400	[/Together/.]	353.9884
342		354.6705	Did you, um, so, going back	356.1441
344		356.3772	to your neighborhood, did you play outside a lot, or were y'all in the house a lot?	359.6261
345	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	359.6727	Oh no. You always played outside. That's one thing. When you, get through eating breakfast in the morning, the f-	364.9892
347		365.2736	t- cleaning or whatever you had to do, you had to go outside and play.	368.6437
349		369.4131	And you only came in when they call you.	371.4450
351		372.0092	So, you made your own toys.	373.8837
353		374.2474	Whatever you was gonna play with (laughing). <laugh>	376.4949
355		377.0964	And.	377.3657
357		377.4823	Uh.	377.9113
359		378.0232	We had a little neighborhood where	379.6272
361		380.8535	everybody had children.	382.3410
363		382.4296	So, we h- had a baseball game	384.6247
365		384.7646	in the middle of the road, South Street.	386.8256
367		387.4970	Cars had-	388.1172
369		388.5135	Well, it wasn't too many cars back then [no way.]	390.9651
370	VLD_int_01	390.5920	[Right.]	390.8299
371	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	391.2682	So, everybody played in the streets.	393.3152
373		394.1498	So.	394.4762
375		395.5476	Yeah, we had a	396.0791
377		396.1724	pretty good	396.6993
379		397.3474	neighborhoods. And people	398.7696
381		399.0307	got-	399.3059
383		399.4411	got along together.	400.6255
385		401.2130	We'd fight, some of 'em fight, but the next day, they right back together. It wasn't [like the people holding] grudges like they do now.	407.7237
386	VLD_int_01	405.0826	[<laugh>]	406.1276
387	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	407.8403	<laugh>	408.2227
388	VLD_int_01	409.1366	Was it a lot of crime?	410.5048
389	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	411.0551	No.	411.5353
391		411.8804	No, you didn't he- ever hear about crime.	414.0522
393		414.5744	Mm-mm.	415.0360
394	VLD_int_01	416.1365	Did you-	416.4815
396		417.3768	<ts>	417.4747
398		417.6706	I don't know when they actually started, but like, the newspaper. Did y'all get a like a newspaper every day- did [the.]	422.2301
399	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	422.0751	[Oh.] No.	423.0077
400	VLD_int_01	423.0916	[No.]	423.2688
401	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	423.1616	[Mm.] What is a newspaper? (laughing) We didn't know what that- what that was.	426.6203
402	VLD_int_01	426.8301	Oh, really?	427.4410
403	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	427.4736	Mm-mm.	427.9586
404	VLD_int_01	427.9586	What about the milk man?	429.0637
405	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	429.5719	Yeah we used to have a milk man.	431.2634
407		431.3473	He used to come.	432.2007
409		432.8674	Vallotton Dairy, that was the milk	434.5274
411		434.6767	company, cause I think we just only had one.	437.1608
413		439.2918	Yeah, cause one of my brothers, when he got about fourteen,	442.6666
415		443.0862	he started working on the milk	444.6576
417		445.1239	truck.	445.4550
419		445.7767	Had to get up four o'clock in the morning to	448.0492
421		449.0050	go get the milk out I guess before everybody got	451.4904
423		451.6711	up and	452.2353
425		452.5664	out of the street.	453.3124
427		453.7414	Mm-hm.	454.0678
428	VLD_int_01	454.5667	And so, they would deliver the	455.9003
430		456.2594	what would they	456.6744
432		456.7490	like, they would [deliver it in a-]	457.5460
433	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	457.1045	[In a jar.]	457.8445
434	VLD_int_01	458.2455	The [jar.]	458.7351
435	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	458.4600	[They] was in jars, see.	459.8712
436		460.1743	Mm-hm.	460.5566
437	VLD_int_01	461.0218	And you just paid every	462.3507
439		462.5232	time? Or like, you paid like for the week? How did?	464.7661
440	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	465.1857	That- we paid about a m-	466.3981
442		467.8477	I believe they paid about a month.	469.6196
443	VLD_int_01	471.2469	And they would deliver it every day?	472.3800
444	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	472.9524	No.	473.4047
446		473.4886	Three times a week.	474.6031
447	VLD_int_01	474.8549	Okay.	475.1626
448	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	475.1626	Mm-hm.	475.5450
449		475.9040	Yeah.	476.1698
450	VLD_int_01	476.8739	What grocery stores did you guys have?	478.4966
451	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	479.9782	<ts> We had two	481.0973
453		481.1673	down here on Lee Street. Mrs.	483.3029
455		483.6200	/RD-NAME-4/	484.7251
457		485.6425	Eli Power,	486.8595
459		488.7014	and /Hender Buckles/, right there on that corner there.	491.3898
461		491.5204	That was the neighborhoods.	492.5649
463		492.8959	Oh this,	493.3949
465		493.6886	I-	493.8332
467		493.9591	place over here, and was Copeland	495.4780
469		495.7765	Grocery Store.	496.5925
471		498.4903	Yeah.	498.7188
472	VLD_int_01	499.1244	But that was only on	499.9684
474		500.1643	For this side of [town?]	501.1340
475	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	500.9838	[Yeah.]	501.2542
476		501.7671	Mm-hm.	502.1635
477	VLD_int_01	502.5319	So,	503.1427
479		503.4178	at what point-	504.3178
481		504.8633	Mm-mm.	505.1058
483		505.2550	Let's go to beauty. So, how did you decide to leave	507.3615
485		507.9070	Valdosta?	508.4573
486	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	509.0914	Well, I got married right after	510.5882
488		510.7701	finished high school. Nine,	512.3741
490		513.0630	ten months after I finished high school, I got married.	515.7162
492		516.6302	My husband and I moved to	518.1316
494		518.2948	Tampa.	518.8952
495	VLD_int_01	522.3830	And wha- why did you move to Ta- wha-	523.8425
497		523.9451	What made you move to.	524.8206
498	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	525.1796	[Well, that's where] he had a job.	526.9296
499	VLD_int_01	525.1796	[/did he/ want-]	525.8184
500		526.9842	[Oh okay.]	527.3665
501	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	527.2220	[In] Tampa, so we moved to Tampa.	529.1198
502	VLD_int_01	529.4555	Okay. So, [tell me] about	530.5932
503	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	529.9684	[Mm-hm.]	530.2762
504	VLD_int_01	530.6679	Tampa.	531.0957
505	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	532.3453	Oh.	533.2453
507		534.3737	Now, Tampa. When I got to Tampa, I start having children, so (laughing).	538.5179
508	VLD_int_01	538.6018	<laugh>	540.4716
509	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	540.9706	<laugh>	541.2550
511		541.6840	They just two years apart, and	543.5993
513		543.7438	and the last two, just thirteen months apart.	546.3784
515		547.1104	So, I-	547.5907
517		547.7353	I was just a housewife.	549.0491
519		550.6717	But, I did go to, um,	552.4110
521		552.6908	I g- m- started working at the coffee shop at /RD-WORK-4/.	556.0516
523		557.1054	I worked there a little.	557.8888
525		558.2198	About	558.4903
527		558.8586	eight or nine months.	560.1596
529		561.8930	That's the only	562.5085
531		562.7137	job I ever had there down in Tampa (laughing).	565.0778
533		565.7912	Cause I tried a maid job one time, but I wasn't never a maid.	569.2872
534	VLD_int_01	569.4365	[Mm-mm.]	569.7722
535	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	569.6276	[I] couldn't-	570.1079
536		570.5835	I couldn't tell you	571.2690
538		572.3694	stand and help and	573.3102
540		573.3848	tell you how to do	574.1821
542		574.2941	things, you know. <laugh>	575.6696
543	VLD_int_01	575.8934	That wasn't your calling?	576.7281
544	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	576.7281	No, I- I couldn't be no maid, so	579.1548
545		579.6071	I didn't do that.	580.3298
547		580.6189	But, you know, I always did hair.	582.2871
549		583.5414	So, when I-	584.2735
551		584.7677	even in high school,	585.9288
553		586.4324	I used to do	587.0246
555		587.5375	um,	588.1985
557		589.0751	the students' hair.	590.1569
559		590.4367	in school at South Street, if they come to school in all kind of old braids in there, I take it loose	595.3968
561		595.7979	and make 'em	596.2968
563		596.3807	pony tails.	597.2434
565		597.5651	You know.	597.9568
567		598.3205	They go home and get a beating because they done took their hair loose.	601.0798
569		601.1684	<laugh>	601.7989
570	VLD_int_01	601.9331	[<laugh>]	605.0945
571	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	601.9382	[Back then, you had to look like you left home.]	604.5956
572		605.7695	But,	606.0353
574		606.2824	we was go in the basement. They had a basement	608.8710
576		609.0055	in /RD-SCHOOL-2/.	609.9381
578		610.3158	Go down there, and I make 'em all a pony tail, and I think I was in the fourth grade.	614.2710
580		615.7958	When I really started messing with hair.	617.8323
581	VLD_int_01	617.8447	Mm-hm.	618.1950
582	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	618.2660	Mm-hm.	618.7509
584		619.2312	And about time I got in high school,	621.6093
586		622.1922	I had customers	623.6458
588		624.3080	come on F-	624.8955
590		626.3083	Friday evenings and Saturday mornings and get they little hair done.	630.0841
592		631.4970	I had three old ladies I used to do their hair	633.8611
594		634.1828	/at/ once a month, that's all I could do. <laugh>	636.7522
595	VLD_int_01	637.0087	And how much would you [charge?]	637.9972
596	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	637.7250	[Fifty] cents.	639.2329
597	VLD_int_01	639.2702	Fifty cents.	640.0909
598	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	640.1515	Yeah, if I made two dollars that week, I was making some money.	643.4855
599	VLD_int_01	644.4834	<ts> So wha- two dollars. Put that in context. What was two dollars like today, what would that be?	648.2370
600	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	648.3862	Oh. Goodn-	649.0658
601	VLD_int_01	649.4575	[You was]	649.7839
602	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	649.5368	I-	649.6813
603	VLD_int_01	649.8772	making good money.	650.5954
604	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	650.4974	Mm, uh-huh. And that'd have been	651.4859
605		651.5978	two hundred dollars almost, you know?	653.8593
607		653.9479	To now.	654.4002
608	VLD_int_01	654.6881	[Mm-hm.]	655.5788
609	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	655.1638	[Mm-hm] cause	655.9798
610		656.6186	everything was	657.7237
612		658.5490	ten, fifteen cent, you know.	660.4655
614		661.1265	But.	661.2990
615	VLD_int_01	662.6046	And so, you started doing hair, then you started getting customers. So, what made say you know, what, I’m’a go to	666.4142
617		666.5308	I’m’a go to beauty school and	667.8984
619		668.3740	instead of working at the coffee shop, and you [know that] you weren't gonna be a maid.	670.9727
620	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	670.0214	[Mm.]	670.2453
622		670.9727	Mm-hm.	671.5322
623		672.1990	So, I-	672.5755
625		672.7014	that made me go to school, so I-	674.2076
627		674.3335	I-	674.4827
629		674.6832	I did hair a while, when I got back here	677.1032
631		677.5042	cause I, when I	678.1291
633		678.2363	first got here, I moved	679.3127
635		679.6344	uh, my daddy moved me in the project	681.6955
637		682.2037	cause they didn't have a house.	683.4720
639		684.5389	I stayed out there eight months	685.9937
641		686.5159	before I moved here.	687.6945
642	VLD_int_01	687.8344	Mm-hm.	688.1981
643	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	689.7135	And then I babysit for my sisters.	692.4180
645		692.9811	Yeah, one had four children, the other had	695.1400
647		695.5457	two.	695.9327
649		696.8405	Yeah, so I babysit for them for eight months out there in the project.	700.2307
651		700.4266	Cause they were working	701.5410
653		702.3104	and I wasn't working.	703.5367
655		705.9929	Then when I moved here in sixty-one.	709.4528
657		710.1289	Sixty-two,	710.9578
659		712.4639	I went to Pinevale	713.6669
661		714.5435	Beauty School. I-	715.4435
663		715.8631	Cause I was doing hair, you know, in the kitchen, and you know how people would	718.9934
665		719.4186	during that time they would turn you up. The licensed beauticians would	723.4893
667		723.8577	if uh,	724.3426
669		724.5152	the state people came about	726.1192
670	VLD_int_01	726.2358	[Mm-hm.]	726.5668
671	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	726.3011	[and they]	726.5855
672		726.7813	knew somebody was doing hair at the house, they would	729.4287
674		730.2354	you know, report you.	731.2612
676		732.2078	And so,	732.9306
678		733.3735	I-	733.8212
680		734.2128	they	734.3621
682		734.6220	did report me one time.	736.3287
684		737.3358	And I knew the lady done it. This beauty shop down there.	740.3523
686		740.5854	<laugh>	740.8139
688		741.6299	So, I	742.0671
690		742.1557	start going to school, so it took uh, e-	744.0954
692		744.2819	eighteen months, mm,	745.3964
694		745.4896	two years	746.3476
696		746.4502	to finish.	747.1123
698		747.3828	So, I finished it in	748.2396
700		748.4401	sixty-one,	749.8856
702		750.7902	sixty-two.	751.5456
703	VLD_int_01	751.8394	Mm-hm.	752.2497
704	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	752.3523	Mm-hm.	752.7486
706		755.3727	And I've been r- here ever since.	757.2145
707	VLD_int_01	757.2472	Did you-	757.5363
709		757.7741	but you didn't start with your own shop, you started working at	759.8397
711		760.1728	the lady's shop? Or you started your own shop [right away?]	762.3801
712	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	761.8205	[I started] my own shop.	763.4619
713	VLD_int_01	764.0110	In sixty-two?	764.8736
714	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	764.9435	Mm-hm.	765.4098
715	VLD_int_01	766.4403	In this same shop right [now?]	767.5734
716	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	767.3916	[<ts>]	767.5175
717		767.6107	This same shop right here, this house,	769.5785
719		769.6519	this shop wasn't built on here, this house was just straight	773.2983
721		774.1982	back then.	774.7858
723		775.3500	So, oh, uh.	776.5845
725		778.9999	I think it was Mr. Scott. He had	780.7998
727		781.4759	this	781.6939
729		782.1135	uh,	782.5099
731		782.5752	cottoners were coming, they	783.8062
733		784.0067	added this here shop. He said	785.6340
735		786.0164	I di-	786.2962
737		786.3856	Cause this was a driveway. Like,	788.1369
738	VLD_int_01	788.3280	Mm-hm.	788.7710
739	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	789.1487	so, he said, you can put a shop there.	791.1258
741		791.8579	So, they ma-	792.4361
743		792.5666	they built this shop here.	793.9768
745		794.1540	Two old mens.	795.4503
747		795.9306	It wasn't never fixed like it's supposed to be, cause	798.4194
749		798.5587	old timey	799.2914
751		799.9520	uh, carpenters, you know they didn't measure nothing. They just fit it. [<laugh>]	803.7341
752	VLD_int_01	803.0103	[<laugh>]	804.4558
753	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	804.5735	So,	804.9034
755		805.2112	it got burned in	806.5121
757		807.2943	in seve-	808.0917
759		808.3295	two thou-	808.8611
761		809.1968	ninet-	809.5978
763		809.9289	when was it? Two thou-	810.9407
765		812.9633	Nineteen seventy-nine.	814.6979
767		815.2015	It got burned.	816.1294
769		817.1739	And um,	817.8407
771		818.2778	I had to have it redone over	820.2129
773		821.5652	and the carpenters that	822.5677
775		822.8708	got there. And they say well,	824.3256
777		824.7534	I just don't see how you stayed in tha- in this little place all this long time.	829.2904
779		829.6495	Nothing was measured or fi- <laugh>	832.0497
781		832.5113	but, they fixed it. You know, [like it is now.]	834.9361
782	VLD_int_01	833.8030	[Right. Mm-hm.]	834.6236
783	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	835.6926	So,	836.1916
785		836.6532	that's about	837.1836
787		837.3048	cause I got.	837.8691
789		838.6058	My	838.8203
791		838.9555	shop caught on fire. That's what happened.	841.0025
793		842.3734	I left the TV on, and I went in-	844.4379
795		844.5778	in the kitchen	845.3612
797		845.5430	for lunch,	846.1632
799		846.4290	and when I come back,	847.5341
801		847.6833	a whole wall was burning down.	849.7385
803		850.5032	So, he say I had a electric shortage up in the attic or something, and	854.6112
805		855.1836	it was	855.5426
807		855.6685	burning all the time, but I just didn't know it.	857.8881
808	VLD_int_01	858.1865	Until it	858.5947
810		858.7346	just [really caught on fire?]	859.7977
811	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	859.1309	[Mm-hm. So,] I stayed out of here about six months, almost before they could get it back. I went down to uh	865.0833
812		865.7489	Maggie's Beauty Shop and I worked down there.	868.0197
814		870.2952	And I couldn't wait to get back [home (laughing) cause]	872.6209
815	VLD_int_01	872.2385	[<laugh>]	872.6022
816	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	873.0685	I didn't like the-	874.0244
818		874.0990	the system like they were doing. Now, they were older than I were.	877.5566
820		878.1430	And they was used to that kind of stuff.	880.1387
822		881.1738	But uh,	881.6028
824		881.7614	I just didn't like it, so uh, a	883.5024
826		883.6236	few customers I did have they say, I was glad when you get back home, say we'll wash our own hair, you just do it. (laughing)	889.6249
827	VLD_int_01	889.7694	Mm.	890.2917
828	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	890.3430	But, I said no, so, I finally got back down here.	893.2551
830		893.3390	Took about six month.	894.3882
832		895.5120	<ts>	895.6332
834		896.1648	So, I've been here ever since.	897.7337
835	VLD_int_01	898.0847	Now, wha- how did you move- why did you move back to Valdosta?	900.2670
836	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	901.3674	Well, after my husband died.	902.9808
837	VLD_int_01	903.1300	So y- ah, okay.	904.0801
838	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	904.0801	My husband died in Tampa.	905.7121
839		906.8545	And so m-	907.3627
841		907.4933	I had these	908.1601
843		908.7803	four small children, and my daddy, he just didn't want me down there, he	912.3835
845		912.4954	thought I was by myself.	913.9363
847		914.2254	I probably coulda made it down there, but	916.0661
849		916.9567	e-	917.0966
851		917.1992	I know didn't think he had a U-Haul to coming down there to get us. <laugh>	920.9808
853		921.4733	And already had the projects (laughing)	923.3758
855		924.0799	just, you know.	924.9332
856	VLD_int_01	925.0869	Ready [for you. Mm-hm.]	926.2201
857	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	925.4927	[Ready for us.] So,	926.5512
858		926.9755	I just come on back home, but I think I coulda made it back there.	930.0612
860		931.6139	<ts>	931.6979
862		931.9683	Yeah.	932.2061
863	VLD_int_01	932.2714	And you have	932.7564
865		933.0641	four kids?	933.5386
866	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	933.7158	Four kid.	934.3779
867	VLD_int_01	934.3779	Two girls, two boys right?	935.4504
868	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	935.5343	Two gir-	936.0799
870		936.3690	[Three girls and one boy.]	937.7632
871	VLD_int_01	936.3690	[Three girls and one boy.]	937.5393
872	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	938.0709	Mm-hm.	938.5652
873	VLD_int_01	938.7237	Um.	939.2122
875		939.3008	And so, then you moved back here, you moved into this house, [you started] your hair business,	943.2456
876	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	941.6466	[Mm-hm.]	942.0533
877	VLD_int_01	944.2108	So, let's talk about	945.1236
879		946.4618	let's move to the	947.7534
881		948.3037	nineteen sixties, and it's i-	949.8378
883		949.9450	it's	950.1782
885		950.3787	funny that you have on this shirt. This MLK shirt.	952.2427
886	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	952.4665	[Mm-hm.]	952.9887
887	VLD_int_01	952.4665	[Cause I think it's]	953.0494
888		953.1473	really interesting	954.0845
890		955.0218	cause I do-	955.3761
892		955.5254	I don't know if I knew like the nineteen thirties, forties, when you [were growing up, like]	958.7958
893	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	957.8277	[No, you don't.]	958.7649
894	VLD_int_01	958.9287	I mean	959.3804
896		959.6928	and now to come to this point.	961.0684
898		961.3622	So, tell me about	962.2248
900		962.3740	like, Civil Rights, and kind of how you felt like the impact here in like the South.	966.4894
902		967.2022	Like, MLK, and how that seemed to be	970.0313
904		970.7913	did it	971.0991
906		971.2296	did you feel- did it feel different? Did it start.	973.2999
908		973.8362	Did things-	974.6930
910		975.5883	Cause I- did y'all have	976.2318
912		976.3996	/?/ let me start with this, but, did y'all have the separate water fountains and the separate [entrances?]	979.8167
913	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	979.0940	[Oh, sure.]	979.8261
914		980.0167	[Oh, sure.]	980.5482
915	VLD_int_01	980.0671	[Okay. So,] tell me a little bit about [like that.]	981.7085
916	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	981.5266	[We had] the	982.0116
917		982.3146	they called it the	983.0980
919		983.3312	colored and the white.	984.3430
921		984.8513	We were colored folks then.	986.4588
923		986.5754	Not black.	987.1955
925		987.3821	Color.	987.7178
927		988.5012	And they would have a colored fountain and	990.4036
929		991.5833	they	991.9004
931		992.0263	I can't even remember having a colored	994.3286
933		994.4639	bathroom.	995.3312
935		995.8860	But they just had	996.6368
937		996.7300	color fountains, cause you could go to a filling station	999.8903
939		1000.3659	<ts> fill up your car with gas, they had bathroom, but you couldn't go in 'em.	1004.4366
941		1006.7483	And stores,	1007.9793
943		1009.1404	I remember Walgreens used to be downtown.	1011.9155
945		1012.9355	And the black folks had to go in the back	1015.0525
947		1016.0317	to the window-	1016.6892
949		1016.9689	is the alley	1017.8362
951		1018.0507	back there.	1018.6511
953		1019.0288	You had to go back there and order from that	1020.8800
955		1021.3323	window back there you couldn't go in the restaurant.	1023.7803
956	VLD_int_01	1025.0390	Mm.	1025.3281
957	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1025.3281	And,	1025.8177
958		1026.1581	the	1026.3469
960		1026.6198	crest,	1027.0908
962		1027.5664	downtown, on that corner,	1029.0819
964		1029.7906	they had a-	1030.4015
966		1030.7920	a little eating fountain,	1032.3354
968		1033.0582	you couldn't sit there on those stools	1035.1518
970		1035.5182	and	1035.7793
972		1035.8819	order nothing.	1036.6513
974		1037.9987	it was just prohibited, /they'd say/-	1039.3370
976		1039.4829	they had a sign up there some time, White Only.	1041.9123
978		1042.7330	And, that mean for you not to sit on.	1044.4142
980		1044.8991	So, we had some little young black boys that was in the early-	1048.0491
982		1049.0610	when they started the Civil Rights.	1050.5742
984		1051.0032	They sat on those stools. They come	1053.2259
986		1053.3379	call theyself integrating, and then police	1055.5714
988		1055.6833	got 'em just like they- you see on the movies and beat 'em and	1058.5546
990		1059.0069	put 'em in jail and all that for standing up to getting a cup of coffee	1062.6872
992		1062.7991	at t-	1063.1302
994		1063.2141	cou-	1063.3726
996		1063.4426	white counter.	1064.3367
998		1065.9641	But, it was-	1066.6215
1000		1066.7428	it was rough.	1067.6334
1002		1068.6219	We really felt it then.	1070.2761
1004		1072.6215	[And you cou-] look in, you go in the store, you couldn't try on no shoes.	1076.5032
1005	VLD_int_01	1072.6215	[Did /??/]	1073.0822
1006	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1077.1513	You had to measure your feet,	1078.8708
1008		1080.4422	and you just went and got a shoe tha-	1082.3633
1010		1082.5265	that l-	1082.8436
1012		1083.0861	length of that	1083.8088
1014		1084.9174	shoe.	1085.2905
1016		1085.4210	Cause you couldn't try 'em on in the store.	1087.4307
1018		1089.0161	Couldn't try on your	1089.7668
1020		1089.8554	clothes.	1090.5537
1022		1093.4261	You could buy 'em, but you couldn't try 'em on.	1095.3705
1023	VLD_int_01	1097.7313	And this was like that all over town?	1099.2747
1024	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1099.3307	All over town.	1100.6305
1026		1101.6423	<laugh>	1101.9454
1027	VLD_int_01	1101.9501	So, were there like	1102.7055
1029		1103.0225	sections, like	1103.8386
1031		1104.0064	for just the black folks on this side of town?	1105.8669
1033		1105.9275	Or,	1106.2714
1035		1106.4859	even those stores were.	1107.7263
1036	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1108.2672	All of 'em like that. We didn't. See, we didn't have no black stores or [nothing like that]. Er- white people owned everything.	1114.0522
1037	VLD_int_01	1111.4783	[Mm-hm.]	1112.0699
1038	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1115.3567	Filling station, everything, er- but.	1117.3151
1040		1117.6182	You'd never see no	1118.6720
1042		1118.8725	black person behind a counter, using the cash register, nothing like that.	1122.7649
1044		1124.7639	I would just eye the-	1125.6792
1046		1125.7911	onliest thing	1126.5174
1048		1126.6479	black people did in a store if you was the maid,	1129.1706
1050		1129.2498	to clean up.	1129.8513
1051	VLD_int_01	1132.1875	Mm.	1132.4614
1052	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1132.6526	That was it.	1133.1282
1053	VLD_int_01	1134.3219	So, then, think about civil-	1136.0472
1055		1136.6487	civil rights.	1137.8144
1057		1138.9697	Mm.	1139.1748
1059		1139.3007	Going back. So, your parents were both-	1140.8535
1061		1141.3897	Both-	1141.6135
1063		1141.7534	they both were custodians, right? So how,	1144.2807
1065		1145.4919	in their jobs, how did they	1147.2312
1067		1148.7606	function, like do-	1149.7258
1069		1150.2108	do you feel like they experience racism? Did you-	1151.8603
1071		1151.9535	Did [they talk about it?]	1152.8208
1072	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1152.0655	[Oh, sure.]	1152.7882
1073		1153.1099	No, they didn't talk about it, you didn't talk about it. You just	1155.9217
1075		1156.7138	wasn't no-	1157.1848
1077		1159.1245	n-	1159.2458
1079		1159.4882	Who were you gonna talk about it to?	1161.4327
1080	VLD_int_01	1161.7124	Mm.	1162.1741
1081	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1162.5786	Uh-huh.	1163.2547
1083		1163.4226	Yeah, so.	1164.0474
1084	VLD_int_01	1165.6561	So, they just did they jobs and [came home?]	1167.6984
1085	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1167.0223	[Did they job.]	1168.0062
1086		1169.7956	A-	1170.0148
1088		1170.0800	and just	1170.5090
1090		1170.5976	as the old folks say, make do.	1172.3462
1092		1173.0829	<laugh>	1173.9736
1094		1174.4480	That's what that was a thing they'd do.	1176.3971
1096		1176.7235	Yes ma'am, no ma'am.	1178.1177
1097	VLD_int_01	1181.7906	So, now, thinking ba- so, what happened in the-	1184.1034
1099		1184.4625	At what point do you think there was a turning point here?	1186.8499
1101		1187.9363	In the c- in Valdosta. Was it-	1189.1289
1103		1189.6978	was it	1190.0941
1105		1190.6117	the beginning of the civil rights? Was it after MLK was assassinated?	1193.7452
1106	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1195.6931	I think it was after he was assassinated.	1198.0619
1108		1200.3642	When it	1200.6067
1110		1200.7186	really got better here.	1201.9589
1111	VLD_int_01	1202.5977	And what happened?	1203.2412
1112	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1204.3789	Well, it started ha- well.	1205.9503
1114		1206.0156	Uh, black people started going to school and	1208.4951
1116		1208.9707	getting themselves ready for good jobs cause	1211.8151
1118		1212.1275	most of 'em	1212.8305
1120		1213.1849	didn't even finish high school.	1214.9148
1122		1215.6142	A-	1215.7914
1124		1216.0759	College was just out of it. Nobody went to college way back there.	1219.7845
1126		1220.8355	So,	1221.1339
1128		1221.2645	that's what you had to do.	1222.5048
1130		1222.6540	Whatever your parents did, you	1224.2896
1132		1224.6067	a-	1224.6999
1134		1224.9191	end up doing that.	1226.1501
1135	VLD_int_01	1228.3556	And so,	1229.1017
1137		1229.2322	after the-	1229.7731
1139		1230.0529	were there riots? Or was i- it just kind of like	1232.3100
1141		1232.4499	stuff started to change? What-	1234.1239
1143		1234.7300	what happened in the [city?]	1235.7465
1144	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1235.4388	[No, we didn't] have any [riots and-]	1237.4101
1145	VLD_int_01	1236.6226	[Oh, you y'all didn't go.]	1237.4852
1146	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1237.5266	No, we didn't go	1238.4172
1148		1238.5152	through all that. The burning and	1240.1378
1150		1240.2684	all that kind of stuff. The- I never heard of that here.	1243.0920
1151	VLD_int_01	1243.7332	Did they move the, um,	1244.9129
1153		1245.0061	how di- So, what happened when they started moving the signs? Like the	1247.8692
1155		1248.3634	[white and s- mm-hm.]	1249.7343
1156	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1248.4707	[White and co-]	1249.2494
1157		1249.7856	Well, we didn't have any trouble with that.	1251.6962
1158	VLD_int_01	1252.0087	You [didn't?]	1252.7594
1159	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1252.1654	[Uh. Mm.]	1252.7763
1160		1253.4402	None whatsoever.	1254.5761
1161	VLD_int_01	1255.1468	So, just one day they took it down [and?]	1256.6949
1162	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1256.4664	[It wasn't that's-]	1257.3494
1163		1257.7271	When they passed the bill that equal rights,	1260.2031
1165		1260.5155	they just took 'em down.	1261.8072
1167		1263.1209	And they tried to be nice,	1264.7530
1169		1264.8462	but you could tell, they-	1266.0399
1171		1267.2150	it hadn't got there.	1268.1709
1173		1268.6185	[<laugh>]	1269.6572
1174	VLD_int_01	1268.6185	[Hm.]	1268.9531
1175	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1270.4639	Yeah.	1270.9861
1176	VLD_int_01	1271.4804	Do remember like the first time that you went to a place that ha- used to be whites and colors and that you	1275.8857
1178		1276.2773	went in?	1276.7716
1179	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1277.7182	Well, I experience is, I went to a filling station one time, we was on our way to Tampa,	1282.3953
1181		1283.2812	and,	1283.6951
1183		1284.4551	they had a sign up there, white only,	1286.6234
1185		1287.1596	to the	1287.5326
1187		1288.3067	service station.	1289.2439
1189		1289.6344	So, we filled up with gas, and so I told the lady. I said, I'm going in this bathroom.	1294.3486
1191		1295.1821	I said, oh, we can't make it til the next stop, you know.	1297.8540
1193		1298.4835	So,	1298.7866
1195		1298.9218	I went on in there, and so, when I come out, the man said, um,	1302.4085
1197		1303.0007	did you see that sign? I said, I sure did.	1305.3554
1199		1306.2460	But, I had to go to the bathroom.	1308.1613
1201		1309.0007	And we filled up with gas, why can't we use the bathroom?	1312.2227
1203		1312.8103	So, he was surprised that I said that, so he say,	1315.5975
1205		1315.9799	oh.	1316.3716
1207		1317.3041	Well.	1317.6678
1209		1317.9103	It was the white bathroom.	1319.5039
1211		1321.4250	So, that was it (laughing). We didn't have any o- (laughing).	1323.4580
1213		1323.8777	He was red as fire. (laughing)	1325.5446
1215		1325.6518	<laugh> But, he just said na-	1326.7629
1217		1327.1965	he said, did you see that sign?	1328.9218
1218	VLD_int_01	1332.2169	And he didn't say	1332.9163
1220		1333.0189	but that was it?	1333.5831
1221	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1333.7735	[Mm-mm.]	1334.1051
1222	VLD_int_01	1333.7735	[There was nothing. He didn't get violent or anything else?]	1336.0023
1223	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1334.3578	[Mm-hm. No, didn't no. We] didn't have any violence, mm-mm.	1337.4307
1224		1338.1441	Like, some people. You know, you seen all over the county how they beat 'em and /??/ but I can't remember nothing like that- nothing but just a accident up at the	1346.3325
1226		1346.7077	Crest store.	1347.5703
1228		1348.1636	The police just got him and dragged him out of /then/	1350.6198
1230		1351.3516	put him in jail.	1352.2656
1231	VLD_int_01	1354.1868	So, by the time your kids went to school, the schools, were they [integrated?]	1356.9352
1232	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1356.4875	[Oh, yeah.] They was integrated.	1357.7885
1233		1357.8724	Yeah.	1358.1568
1234	VLD_int_01	1358.3713	Okay, i-	1359.0148
1235	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1359.0988	No they didn't.	1360.0363
1237		1360.1436	They didn't integrate until seventy	1362.8061
1239		1364.0266	one.	1364.7214
1241		1365.3322	Seventy-one.	1366.2695
1243		1366.8617	Cause that's when, um,	1368.0414
1245		1368.1207	they had to go to the	1369.2164
1247		1369.4356	Valdosta High.	1370.4416
1249		1372.4513	Cause he- we had Pinevale.	1374.0274
1250	VLD_int_01	1374.0554	Mm-hm.	1374.5030
1251	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1374.7035	And when Pinevale closed, the all had to go to Valdo- cause my oldest daughter-	1378.4980
1253		1380.2046	They um	1380.8667
1255		1381.5755	yeah. They had-	1382.1432
1257		1382.2551	that's when they started.	1383.3136
1259		1383.6540	In seventy-one.	1384.6612
1260	VLD_int_01	1386.9926	Was school. How- Mm.	1388.1479
1262		1389.1084	Mkay. So, now you get to see it from the other side,	1391.2487
1264		1391.3559	how was the education? Do you feel, was it	1393.2024
1266		1393.3703	[better?]	1394.0266
1267	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1393.7422	[It's] much better, cause they got to	1395.7379
1268		1396.0970	learn what they were learning.	1397.9481
1270		1398.2232	they couldn't give separate books and stuff like that. They had to do it, you know, equally.	1402.8663
1272		1404.0414	Yes.	1404.2839
1274		1404.3771	Cause,	1404.8481
1276		1405.1885	I don't know well you know m-	1406.1805
1278		1406.3157	re-	1406.5768
1280		1407.0292	Mr. /RD-NAME-3/.	1408.4047
1281	VLD_int_01	1408.8570	Mm-mm.	1409.1741
1282	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1409.7383	Well, he was the	1410.5310
1284		1413.1582	he was the uh,	1414.0908
1286		1414.2679	vice president	1415.4383
1288		1417.8106	No, he was the	1418.4541
1290		1418.7665	he was the superintendent at the middle school.	1421.6295
1291	VLD_int_01	1422.1284	Mm-hm.	1422.4875
1292	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1422.6274	They let him beat 'em /?/.	1423.5262
1294		1424.1510	And so, when they segregated,	1425.9509
1296		1426.6550	the	1426.7855
1298		1426.8741	children walked out.	1428.0119
1300		1428.3802	The black children walk out.	1429.9738
1302		1430.6872	And he was in charge of getting 'em all back to school.	1433.8067
1304		1434.2450	Back in school.	1435.1123
1306		1435.1729	Cause	1435.3630
1308		1436.0997	they weren't showing difficulties, you know and na-	1438.5850
1310		1438.6783	and	1439.0187
1312		1439.0886	children had been black all their lives, so they really didn't wanna mix.	1442.8831
1313	VLD_int_01	1443.4100	Hm.	1443.8390
1314	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1444.1887	But um,	1444.7809
1316		1446.8652	yeah, that was in seventy-one, I believe it was. Yeah.	1449.8296
1317	VLD_int_01	1450.6876	So, when did-	1451.2751
1319		1451.5969	when did black people really like in-	1453.3507
1321		1453.4719	that you could see started really going to college?	1455.8780
1323		1456.2696	Like going to S- BSU or BSC at the time or even any	1460.2370
1325		1460.3443	[that you knew.]	1461.0903
1326	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1460.4189	[Any school.]	1461.1463
1327		1461.5473	Well, cause	1462.0276
1329		1462.0929	bu- but before then,	1463.5978
1331		1463.8543	uh,	1464.2973
1333		1464.6050	before they started here,	1466.0412
1335		1466.6007	t- uh, the older people like	1468.8211
1337		1469.2780	eighty something years old now	1470.7655
1339		1471.2332	they went to school like Fort Valley, and Albany State, [Savannah] State.	1475.1733
1340	VLD_int_01	1474.1102	[Mm-hm.]	1474.6650
1341	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1475.9695	All black [colleges.]	1477.3544
1342	VLD_int_01	1477.1865	[Right.]	1477.4849
1343	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1478.1471	Yeah.	1478.5061
1345		1479.4947	So,	1479.8490
1347		1480.1517	m-	1480.2502
1349		1480.4833	e- they had started going to s-	1482.0034
1351		1482.2739	uh,	1482.7262
1353		1482.8428	college before they,	1484.0052
1355		1484.5647	you know, Valdosta State got started.	1486.6096
1357		1487.6447	And most of 'em come back, and was teachers and different things, and they could really help their children.	1492.7073
1359		1495.3515	Yeah.	1495.7339
1360	VLD_int_01	1498.0455	So.	1498.4652
1362		1500.1531	So, then, okay. So, now let's go back to	1502.6474
1364		1502.9785	thinking about	1503.5706
1366		1503.9670	let's fast forward a little bit. Thinking about today,	1505.9360
1367	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1506.1459	Mm-hm.	1506.5142
1368	VLD_int_01	1506.6495	and thinking about	1507.3734
1370		1507.4853	when you were younger. What do you f- how do you feel like is the race relations in Valdosta now?	1511.4243
1372		1512.5574	Like,	1512.7859
1374		1512.8512	the whites, the blacks,	1514.2349
1376		1514.5007	do you feel like it's still segregated in a [way?]	1516.1840
1377	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1516.0022	[No.] I	1516.6363
1378		1516.7202	think they gets along pretty good now.	1518.8185
1380		1519.0703	Uh-huh. I really do.	1520.1288
1381	VLD_int_01	1521.5592	Um.	1522.1187
1383		1522.1980	And then,	1522.9627
1385		1523.0700	what do you think about	1524.5574
1387		1525.4154	you know how people talk about different sides of town?	1527.5384
1388	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1527.6736	Mm-hm.	1528.1259
1389	VLD_int_01	1528.1259	Tell me about the different sides of town.	1529.7533
1390	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1532.1442	<ts> Well, we didn't know nothing about the white side of town (laughing). We always stayed in-	1536.1677
1392		1536.5081	in this side of the	1537.4955
1394		1537.9152	Magno- I mean	1539.0016
1396		1539.1883	Westside, they had their little side, and I think Tom Town, they called it out here.	1543.5871
1398		1544.0361	They had their's, but	1545.1599
1400		1545.6262	now,	1546.2883
1402		1546.6520	they all over Valdosta. You buy a house or	1549.7564
1404		1549.9848	build a house anywhere you wanna.	1551.5842
1405	VLD_int_01	1553.5461	And you feel like it's- it's- it's good?	1555.3134
1406	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1555.3134	It's good.	1555.9196
1407		1556.0128	Better.	1556.3485
1408	VLD_int_01	1556.5770	So now let's talk about	1557.9712
1410		1558.3443	church.	1558.9411
1412		1559.0530	Cause that's a very important	1560.7212
1414		1561.2994	part of-	1562.3905
1416		1562.4744	of life and	1563.9386
1418		1564.0645	especially in the South.	1565.1183
1420		1565.6592	So,	1566.1721
1422		1566.9403	tell me about, did you always go to church?	1568.9547
1423	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1569.2298	Mm-hm.	1569.6728
1424	VLD_int_01	1569.8174	Even when you were younger?	1570.6287
1425	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1570.6287	<ts> Yeah. we was	1571.3608
1426		1571.4307	brought up in [church.]	1572.5626
1427	VLD_int_01	1572.3575	[So,] tell me about	1573.1315
1428		1573.2294	going to church when you were younger	1574.6050
1430		1574.6796	with your family. Like your parents and.	1576.5494
1431	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1576.5494	Yeah, we	1577.1882
1432		1577.3141	walked to church. We ha- our church	1579.1269
1434		1579.2248	the church I'm a member of now, been a member of my church	1582.1764
1436		1582.9271	ever since nineteen forty-eight.	1584.9497
1437	VLD_int_01	1584.9497	Okay. So you	1585.5698
1439		1585.7750	grew up in [that church]	1586.7495
1440	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1586.4838	I /drew/ up in church.	1587.8288
1441		1588.2137	So, we always walked.	1589.4960
1443		1589.9203	Cause we was right right round here on South Street. We walked to this church up here.	1593.6402
1445		1594.4282	And my parents, they was a member out at, um,	1597.7051
1447		1597.9895	out here on forty-one.	1599.3930
1449		1600.0272	And they only had church once a month.	1602.0649
1451		1602.2176	That was the first Sunday.	1603.4299
1453		1603.9242	So, we were living next door to a lady that belongs to Morning Star, so she said, we can have those children in Sunday school	1610.1387
1455		1610.2133	every Sunday cause we had	1611.8080
1457		1612.0458	always had church every Sunday	1613.7091
1459		1614.0682	at Morning Star.	1615.0148
1460	VLD_int_01	1615.0384	Mm.	1615.4327
1461	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1615.5090	But you know those kind of little country churches and	1617.7461
1463		1618.2403	lot of 'em just had once a month. Some of 'em had two.	1620.7863
1465		1621.5930	But, mostly was once.	1622.9685
1467		1623.4803	But,	1623.7321
1469		1623.8953	I've always been in church.	1625.3827
1470	VLD_int_01	1627.3443	Were you- did you d- what did you do at church? Usher? Sing?	1630.3612
1471	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1630.3845	I sang in the choir.	1631.7694
1473		1632.6029	I was president of my mission	1634.3515
1475		1634.8085	for thirty years.	1635.9742
1477		1637.5596	I did-	1638.3896
1479		1639.8666	No, I did no usher. I didn't like ushering.	1641.9229
1481		1642.4964	[<laugh>]	1643.1632
1482	VLD_int_01	1642.9534	[Why] not?	1643.3357
1483	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1643.8708	Cause people won't do what you say. You tell 'em to sit here, and they gonna say I'm wanna sit over there.	1648.2213
1485		1648.5710	<laugh>	1650.7250
1487		1651.2705	I wasn't a good greeter.	1652.5901
1488	VLD_int_01	1652.6974	[<laugh>]	1654.2305
1489	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1653.2047	[And you- a usher should] be a good greeter, smiling,	1656.6803
1490		1657.0626	and be nice.	1658.0885
1492		1658.6545	And see, if you can't be nice, and I wasn't nice,	1661.2820
1494		1661.5366	you know, that nice.	1662.6342
1496		1662.8010	<laugh>	1664.6845
1497	VLD_int_01	1665.0884	So you- that wasn't [your calling?]	1666.5576
1498	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1665.9957	[Mm-hm.] And I	1666.9264
1499		1667.0186	taught Sunday school a while when I got out /?/.	1669.7757
1501		1670.6186	And I always helped with the young peoples at church.	1673.2485
1503		1674.2100	Cause I had children.	1675.5447
1505		1676.0320	And so,	1676.6071
1507		1676.7564	just,	1677.0929
1509		1677.7251	teach the other folk's children, you got to carry your own, so my four was always in church.	1682.3154
1511		1683.1549	/RD-NAME-3/	1684.0520
1513		1684.6910	He the only one stop when he was sixteen, he got a job so he wouldn't have to go to church	1689.7634
1515		1690.4746	on Sunday.	1691.2297
1517		1692.4136	So, uh. Huh.	1693.2214
1519		1693.5814	Cause I always say, if you live with me,	1695.6273
1521		1696.6107	you gonna go to church,	1698.0624
1523		1698.4970	and do what I say do.	1699.8931
1525		1701.0039	So, if you don't wanna do that, just move.	1702.9751
1526	VLD_int_01	1703.9326	[<laugh>]	1704.6693
1527	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1704.0725	[<laugh>]	1704.5947
1528	VLD_int_01	1706.7536	Was he the first one to leave?	1707.8951
1529	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1708.0312	Yeah.	1708.3736
1530	VLD_int_01	1708.4922	[Mm-hm.]	1708.9356
1531	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1708.7600	[He's] the first one. Got him a [job.]	1710.5585
1532	VLD_int_01	1710.2336	[<laugh>]	1710.9712
1533	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1711.1380	Cause	1711.4936
1535		1711.6780	all of 'em graduated from school.	1713.6887
1537		1714.3385	Two of 'em graduated from Valdosta State.	1716.4399
1539		1717.1687	One of them went to Morris Brown.	1718.7185
1541		1719.8292	But,	1720.0927
1543		1720.5492	his last year in school,	1722.7297
1545		1723.4662	when they got out for Christmas,	1724.9896
1547		1725.2091	He just decide he'd get him a job, and he wasn't going back to school.	1728.6364
1549		1729.8042	Like in one half	1730.9193
1551		1731.0159	quarter from graduating. He the only one who didn't graduate.	1733.6413
1552	VLD_int_01	1735.3959	Hm.	1735.7384
1553	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1737.5076	Sunday. Yeah, they went to school.	1739.2424
1554	VLD_int_01	1741.4112	Do you have any grandkids?	1742.7414
1555	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1743.3736	I have	1744.2253
1557		1745.4897	you know. <laugh>	1746.2565
1559		1747.4989	My daughter lives in- I got one daughter lives in Boston, Massachusetts, she has two boys.	1752.4687
1561		1752.9209	One of them is	1753.4770
1563		1753.5972	thirty	1754.1284
1565		1754.8089	nine and twenty-nine.	1756.6923
1567		1758.0577	And the one t-	1758.7689
1569		1759.0938	thirty nine, he has six children.	1761.9240
1571		1762.5869	And	1762.8460
1573		1763.5177	I don't know how many grands	1765.0499
1575		1765.2782	he got.	1765.8445
1577		1768.0557	Now, I don't know how many grands she got, but he- I know he had six children. The other one just got married last year.	1773.9326
1579		1776.1131	/RD-NAME-2/ has one.	1777.4433
1581		1778.1721	/RD-NAME-2/ had one, so that's	1779.8448
1583		1780.2312	that's the grand children.	1781.2980
1584	VLD_int_01	1781.8600	But, you've got great grands.	1783.2268
1585	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1783.3280	Mm-hm.	1783.8058
1587		1783.9529	Yeah.	1784.2615
1589		1784.7069	Yeah, that's	1785.0830
1591		1785.1730	grand	1785.5000
1593		1785.6022	their son	1786.2276
1595		1786.7304	[grandson] I got. I think he got about six or seven.	1790.0074
1596	VLD_int_01	1786.9307	[Hm.]	1787.1882
1597		1791.2977	But they're not	1791.7801
1599		1791.8986	old	1792.1194
1601		1792.2011	so you're not great-great grandma yet?	1793.7300
1602	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1794.0734	Mm-mm.	1794.4331
1603	VLD_int_01	1794.5557	Mm-mm.	1794.8950
1605		1795.0381	But it's probably coming in a [few years. Mm-hm.]	1797.6164
1606	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1796.3206	[Mm-hm. Mm-hm.]	1797.6164
1607		1797.8208	Mm-hm.	1798.3073
1608	VLD_int_01	1798.9392	What do you think is,	1800.6724
1610		1801.7665	What's the one lesson that you think you've given to your kids that	1804.8365
1612		1805.1471	was the most important lesson?	1806.4430
1613	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1807.1896	Work and take care of yourself.	1809.0700
1614	VLD_int_01	1811.3469	Why do you say that?	1811.9969
1615	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1812.9520	Because you	1813.6224
1617		1813.7328	er.	1813.9699
1619		1814.3950	If you take care of yourself, you won't have to depend on other people.	1818.0996
1620	VLD_int_01	1820.5140	Hm.	1820.7348
1622		1821.0209	That's important.	1821.7690
1623	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1822.0061	Mm-hm.	1822.4353
1624	VLD_int_01	1823.1261	What do you think,	1824.0541
1626		1824.2012	if you could do one thing over	1825.8513
1628		1826.2437	in life, not	1827.0449
1630		1827.2084	because you regret it. Just something you could do differently, what would it be?	1829.7715
1631	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1830.4527	Nursing.	1831.0700
1633		1831.9277	I likeded nursing.	1833.0035
1635		1833.7393	Cause um,	1834.5691
1637		1834.8425	I did go to nursing school.	1836.7678
1639		1838.4765	I got my little nurse's aide license way back there.	1841.7438
1641		1842.1448	I got those in Tampa though when I down there.	1844.6301
1643		1845.8765	And	1846.1935
1645		1846.7753	well, when I left here, I was working at Pineview.	1849.3259
1647		1849.8994	It	1850.0066
1649		1850.1745	/well/	1850.6501
1651		1851.1024	South Georgia Medical Center now, but it was Pineview General then.	1854.7794
1653		1855.5347	I worked there when they first opened. About nine months.	1858.7102
1655		1859.4003	So, I had to go to school to get your	1861.3389
1657		1861.4695	CPA	1862.3368
1659		1862.4953	license, they call it now, but it was a nurse's aide.	1865.6055
1661		1866.1734	So, I would do that.	1867.1246
1662	VLD_int_01	1868.4710	And, um.	1869.4363
1664		1870.1777	Why? What did you like about it?	1871.5112
1665	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1871.8750	I just like taking care of people, seeing that they comfortable.	1875.2124
1667		1875.7347	You know.	1876.1777
1669		1876.8818	I have a lot of patience with old folk. That's all I got for customers (laughing) now, is old folk.	1881.8186
1671		1882.0844	I have to help 'em, many people in and out of their	1883.8143
1673		1883.9948	chair	1884.5544
1675		1884.7249	put them in. (laughing)	1885.5956
1676	VLD_int_01	1886.2251	[And /all 'em remember/.]	1887.3315
1677	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1886.3789	[Some of 'em, I-]	1887.0378
1678		1887.8958	I used to.	1888.8423
1680		1889.4858	Now I had	1890.0547
1682		1890.1479	two one time, I used to have to go get and bring t- t-	1893.0611
1684		1893.2290	get their hair done.	1894.2268
1686		1894.3854	But they died.	1895.3506
1688		1896.9581	Mm.	1897.1446
1689	VLD_int_01	1897.4850	And you been just.	1898.2731
1690	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1898.2731	Mm. [And then I] worked in a nursing home for	1900.6978
1691	VLD_int_01	1898.7254	[And you just.]	1899.3269
1692	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1901.2666	oh, about seven years out there, um	1903.4804
1694		1903.9933	I'd go out there and do their hair on Wednesdays.	1905.9564
1695	VLD_int_01	1907.9847	You still do that?	1908.6142
1696	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1908.7821	Mm-mm.	1909.2099
1698		1909.9746	No. I had surgery, and I	1911.6673
1700		1911.7605	couldn't lift and help with 'em, you know, getting 'em in and out the shampoo bowl and I sh-	1915.9420
1702		1916.1751	I had to stop that cause the	1917.7092
1704		1918.2175	Nurses are real lazy now, they ain't like they used to be.	1921.2379
1706		1922.2031	They wouldn't	1922.7487
1708		1923.3595	change and wouldn't bring 'em in there, so I told the lady I had to stop	1926.7054
1710		1926.7893	but, I used to go out there every Wednesday.	1928.9576
1712		1930.3145	I had two nursing home.	1931.8719
1714		1932.5562	Heritage House and Holly Hill.	1934.2712
1715	VLD_int_01	1934.2628	Mm-hm.	1934.8969
1716	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1936.1746	I did that for about ten years alone.	1938.4958
1717	VLD_int_01	1940.5183	What do you think is-	1942.3555
1719		1942.9290	When you think of your greatest accomplishment, the thing that you're the most proud of, what is it?	1946.9426
1720	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1948.2762	Taking care of myself.	1949.5492
1722		1949.9688	[<laugh>]	1951.9762
1723	VLD_int_01	1950.3838	[<laugh>]	1951.2278
1724		1952.6103	Cause your husband's	1953.3004
1726		1953.4450	been dead for ho-	1954.2890
1727	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1954.4044	[Uh. This last one-] twen- in two, in um, two thou-	1957.9715
1728	VLD_int_01	1954.4044	[a long.]	1955.4862
1729	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1958.2420	well.	1958.7595
1731		1964.0601	Uh.	1964.2933
1733		1964.8994	Nineteen, um	1966.2657
1735		1967.9012	ninety-five.	1968.9317
1736	VLD_int_01	1969.5472	So, you got remarried?	1970.4751
1737	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1970.6476	Uh-huh.	1971.1279
1739		1971.4263	Okay.	1971.7807
1741		1972.1398	[And I-] I was married to him ten years. /RD-NAME-3/.	1975.0343
1742	VLD_int_01	1972.1771	[So.]	1972.5178
1743	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1976.1580	<ts> And he died of a heart attack.	1978.2563
1745		1979.7022	And	1980.1359
1747		1981.7632	we got married in	1982.8812
1749		1983.5806	eighty-five and he died in ninety-five.	1986.2058
1751		1987.6280	[Mm-hm.]	1988.2482
1752	VLD_int_01	1988.1456	[So] how'd you meet him?	1989.0257
1753	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1990.0842	Church.	1990.8349
1755		1991.1893	[<laugh>]	1993.2456
1756	VLD_int_01	1992.7514	[<laugh>]	1993.2456
1757	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	1993.8973	Sk- in church. <laugh>	1995.3008
1759		1995.8137	And he was a pastor, different churches, so	1998.4389
1761		1999.1710	we went around for a while and then I used to go to all these conventions where churches go	2003.9960
1763		2004.0892	to out of town	2005.4275
1765		2005.5487	and them things like that.	2006.8977
1767		2008.4737	But, that was a long time ago.	2010.3529
1769		2011.3636	And I attended a lot of state conventions and things with the hairdressers, and I went	2015.9099
1771		2015.9892	to, um,	2016.5709
1773		2017.2983	we used to have something called State Convention, then we had the national.	2021.0006
1775		2021.5462	We've been to Washington twice.	2023.5128
1777		2025.0282	And you get to, um,	2026.2453
1779		2027.1825	let me see, I got my-	2028.2911
1781		2029.8998	I was trying to look at my diplomas I got. I think I got this one in	2033.5835
1783		2036.3708	Miami.	2036.9723
1785		2038.3432	I got one in Washington at-	2040.0253
1787		2040.2025	But, I think this one says Detroit.	2042.6645
1789		2043.6111	And then I got my	2044.4877
1790	VLD_int_01	2047.6946	Oh, this is where Russell's Vanity Box comes	2050.6369
1792		2050.7255	from. [That's your] name before you got remarried.	2052.6688
1793	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2050.8608	[Mm-hm.]	2051.3177
1795		2052.6688	Yeah.	2052.9952
1796		2053.2517	Mm-hm.	2053.5128
1797	VLD_int_01	2053.5128	Oh. [Okay.]	2054.5237
1798	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2054.3605	[Yeah.] That's i- so, I just kept it like.	2056.3236
1799	VLD_int_01	2056.4308	Mm-hm.	2057.1396
1800	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2057.5732	Everything's in Russell. And I had another one that.	2060.4258
1801	VLD_int_01	2060.4771	And this is-	2060.9946
1803		2061.0926	This your national	2062.2070
1805		2062.3749	from-	2062.6640
1807		2062.8691	for your-	2063.4380
1809		2063.9929	for beauty.	2064.6119
1810	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2064.7704	Mm-hm. Actually no,	2066.1134
1812		2066.2299	uh, beauty [/center/.]	2067.2744
1813	VLD_int_01	2066.8314	[And then] this one is. What's that one? The same?	2068.6546
1814	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2068.7153	[The same.]	2069.2795
1815	VLD_int_01	2068.7899	[That's no-/]	2069.1442
1816	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2069.3447	[Mm-hm.]	2069.9976
1817	VLD_int_01	2069.3447	[Mm-hm.]	2069.9976
1818	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2071.1948	This the one I got in Washington DC.	2073.4050
1820		2074.0811	After I got my doctor's	2075.9509
1822		2076.8544	I got one when I was in Maine.	2079.0226
1824		2079.6521	So, I did that for about	2080.8365
1826		2080.9437	twelve years. [Every]	2082.4813
1827	VLD_int_01	2082.0011	[And you] went [around and.]	2083.1015
1828	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2082.9290	[Mm-hm.] Til I	2083.9222
1829		2084.2779	finished and got the doctors.	2086.0219
1830	VLD_int_01	2087.9139	Now, which convent- now, okay. So, you traveled a lot, you met your husband in church, your-	2092.1757
1832		2092.2830	your	2092.4835
1834		2092.5814	second husband in church.	2093.8159
1836		2094.9304	And you got to travel in all these places. What was your favorite place?	2097.4623
1837	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2099.0932	I- I think we went to Chicago.	2100.8324
1839		2101.1588	I liked Co- Chicago. We went in State Convention in Chicago.	2105.0757
1840	VLD_int_01	2106.0024	Why? What made Chicago so?	2107.5785
1841	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2108.3712	Uh.	2108.5764
1843		2108.8841	Well, when we- we always had a-	2111.1456
1845		2113.2241	what we call it. When the last day, we have like a	2115.9659
1847		2116.0825	tour of the city.	2117.2750
1849		2117.8159	And I just liked Chicago.	2119.3500
1851		2119.8922	And they k- had us on a boat ride.	2121.8680
1853		2122.8565	I didn't	2123.3217
1855		2123.4802	care too much about that (laughing)	2125.0423
1857		2125.4340	but, I did like it. <laugh>	2127.3178
1858	VLD_int_01	2127.4297	You said, I don't need to be on this [boat.]	2128.9319
1859	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2128.6747	[Mm-mm]. I don't really like this.	2130.2309
1860		2130.7998	I likeded Michigan too. Detroit, Michigan was	2133.8447
1862		2133.9519	pretty good. And Miami, was rough, I didn't like that.	2136.9770
1863	VLD_int_01	2137.1822	Why was it rough?	2137.8443
1864	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2139.3178	Oh, the- the- the housing	2141.5082
1866		2141.7600	place, the hotels and all wasn't	2143.7044
1868		2144.8515	like we usually have.	2146.1944
1869	VLD_int_01	2146.2877	Mm. Mm-hm.	2147.2424
1870	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2149.7184	Yeah.	2150.0868
1871	VLD_int_01	2150.0868	So, if you could go-	2151.0054
1873		2151.0986	Where's some place that you want to go that you've never been?	2153.5501
1875		2155.4992	Anywhere in the world?	2156.4645
1876	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2157.6442	<ts> I really want to go	2159.2902
1878		2159.4056	to um,	2160.0397
1880		2162.4505	uh, Vegas.	2163.4437
1882		2165.9325	Yeah.	2166.3848
1884		2166.5573	Vegas.	2167.1029
1885	VLD_int_01	2167.8723	Mkay.	2168.3059
1886	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2168.3992	[Mm-hm.]	2168.8375
1887	VLD_int_01	2168.6463	[Well,]	2168.8375
1888		2168.9541	why do you wanna go to [Vegas?]	2170.1478
1889	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2169.9286	[I] just wanna go there.	2171.2657
1890	VLD_int_01	2171.3869	See it all?	2172.1097
1891	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2172.1470	And see it all <laugh>	2174.1847
1892	VLD_int_01	2174.5437	And why- and so	2175.4623
1894		2175.5696	when you going? When you booking your flight? When you going?	2177.7367
1895	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2179.0703	I	2179.3407
1897		2179.4386	probably won't make it this time. [<laugh>]	2183.7320
1898	VLD_int_01	2182.4555	[<laugh>]	2183.9885
1899	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2184.5853	<laugh>	2185.4759
1901		2185.8629	I can't travel like I used to. Then, them airports and things, it's just a little too rough for me. Cause the last time, my s-	2192.3063
1903		2192.6327	sister and brother lives in Rochester, New York.	2195.4398
1905		2197.6208	And I went there about two years ago.	2199.4813
1907		2201.0201	And I had to have me a wheel chair from here	2203.4017
1909		2203.5043	to Atlanta	2204.5674
1911		2205.3927	And they had to push me around everywhere where I can't walk like I used to.	2208.9541
1913		2210.0685	It's the travel, it too fast [for me.]	2212.2507
1914	VLD_int_01	2211.8576	[Mm-hm.]	2212.2507
1915	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2212.4233	So,	2212.8196
1917		2213.2859	that's one reason I don't	2214.4411
1919		2214.7675	care about going.	2215.5602
1920	VLD_int_01	2216.4555	Oh, and Vegas is busy.	2217.8777
1921	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2217.8963	Mm. Yeah. It's [busy.]	2219.1647
1922	VLD_int_01	2219.0201	[It's] busy.	2219.8454
1923	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2220.6370	And then I- I've been to Houston. Ma- that's where my son is in Houston.	2224.9968
1925		2225.5563	And it's so big	2226.5810
1927		2226.6696	too, but.	2227.6115
1929		2230.0735	Mm-mm.	2230.5072
1930	VLD_int_01	2232.7442	You like-	2233.0380
1932		2233.3224	you like TV.	2234.0778
1934		2234.2643	Most of the time I'm here. Well, you [usually have the TV on.]	2236.0549
1935	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2235.3461	[Oh yeah. ] I just	2236.4372
1936		2236.5352	[turn it on. <laugh>]	2238.0961
1937	VLD_int_01	2236.9082	[<laugh>]	2237.8641
1938		2238.1940	What's your favorite	2238.9960
1940		2239.1825	TV?	2239.5369
1942		2239.6395	Mm.	2239.9239
1944		2240.0079	Mm-mm. Tell me about the first time you remember getting a TV.	2242.8616
1946		2245.7844	How old were you?	2246.9223
1948		2247.0333	What it at your	2247.4867
1950		2247.6671	parents house? Did you have. Were you out on your own?	2249.8364
1951	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2251.5670	Mm. An- and cause when I was in Tampa,	2253.9030
1953		2256.3644	we have TVs.	2257.8076
1955		2259.7827	I don't think we had	2260.5413
1957		2260.6986	te-	2260.9576
1959		2261.8226	TVs back then in the sixties.	2263.7903
1961		2266.2306	Cause I believe the	2266.9244
1963		2267.0771	first TV I got it was in sixty-f-	2269.7367
1965		2270.5206	two.	2271.0017
1967		2271.1451	Cause I had one when I was in the project.	2273.1757
1968	VLD_int_01	2273.4486	Mm-hm.	2273.8140
1969	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2274.4385	So, it must have been in sixty-two.	2276.2338
1971		2276.6409	Somewhere like that.	2277.6585
1972	VLD_int_01	2277.7002	Was it black and white?	2278.5281
1973	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2278.9722	Black and white.	2279.9621
1975		2280.4709	Oh, it was a long time before they put any col- (laughing) [<laugh>]	2283.8482
1976	VLD_int_01	2282.9138	<laugh>]	2284.8750
1977	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2285.8927	<laugh>	2286.3784
1979		2286.9380	Long time.	2287.8869
1981		2288.1043	And we had these little TVs like that one (laughing) right up there, you know.	2291.6938
1982	VLD_int_01	2291.7585	[Mm-hm.]	2292.2396
1983	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2292.0499	[And]	2292.4061
1984		2292.5171	You know where the big screen. I guess we'd	2294.7427
1986		2294.9601	thought we was in the movies if we had had one of those. <laugh>	2298.2396
1987	VLD_int_01	2298.5310	And you could only watch certain TV programs?	2300.6825
1988	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2301.2515	Cause I don't believe they had but two stations on there, it was um,	2304.9057
1990		2305.9794	CBS and NBC.	2307.7279
1992		2308.5481	You know.	2309.0338
1994		2309.5426	Yeah, it was just two.	2310.6158
1996		2311.2122	All we had six and ten.	2312.6979
1998		2312.9385	That's was it was in this day a six and [<laugh>]	2315.2651
1999	VLD_int_01	2314.9367	<laugh>]	2316.9858
2000		2317.4814	And, [think] as much as they changed, they stayed the same.	2319.6092
2001	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2317.6797	[No.]	2318.1429
2002		2319.7664	They still the same.	2320.8719
2004		2321.0523	Mm-hm.	2321.5935
2005	VLD_int_01	2321.5935	So, what'd you watch back then?	2323.0598
2007		2324.9847	Or, what do you remember watching?	2326.0532
2008	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2326.4973	Well, w- tha- w-	2327.1633
2010		2327.5149	During that time, the soap operas had just started good.	2331.0402
2012		2331.3640	So, we watched those soap operas from twelve to four every day.	2334.8471
2014		2334.9858	[<laugh>]	2335.7259
2015	VLD_int_01	2335.4623	[What was] your favorite?	2336.3272
2016	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2336.3926	Love of Life, and Guiding Light	2338.6545
2018		2339.1125	and took all them off now. Search for Tomorrow.	2341.8369
2019	VLD_int_01	2342.9477	Guiding Light ain't on no more?	2344.0255
2020	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2344.0255	Mm-mm.	2344.6869
2021		2345.3622	They stayed on seventy-five years.	2347.3929
2022	VLD_int_01	2348.2531	Mm.	2348.6803
2023	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2348.6803	And they finally took that off. And Search for Tomorrow.	2351.7239
2024		2352.0807	And As the World [Turns.]	2353.8847
2025	VLD_int_01	2353.6765	[Mm.]	2353.8847
2026		2354.1576	That one's gone too?	2354.9948
2027	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2354.9948	Mm-hm.	2355.4990
2028		2356.0263	They all are.	2356.5629
2029	VLD_int_01	2356.9607	Clearly, I don't keep up with the [soap operas.]	2358.6562
2030	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2358.0391	[And so, they don't] have anything now but Young and Restless.	2361.4296
2031		2363.8118	Young and Restless and	2365.2973
2033		2366.2176	Hospital. And never watched that Hospital.	2369.1688
2034	VLD_int_01	2370.6080	Bold and Beautiful? [/inaudible/]	2371.5979
2035	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2371.2371	[Bold and] Beautiful.	2372.2964
2036		2372.4028	Them the only	2373.0180
2038		2373.1151	two, three they got on that I know of.	2375.0763
2039	VLD_int_01	2375.8951	Mm.	2376.4091
2040	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2376.4415	Mm-mm.	2376.9827
2041	VLD_int_01	2377.6627	So.	2378.3750
2043		2378.5462	You used to, oh so.	2379.5730
2045		2379.6517	Did the so-	2380.0726
2047		2380.2391	Did you. So, you used to watch the soap [operas, and then you sti-] did you watch 'em like	2383.3805
2048	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2381.5065	[Mm-hm.]	2382.1779
2049	VLD_int_01	2383.6627	as you got older? As the TV [kind of-]	2385.5083
2050	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2385.3649	[Mm-hm.]	2385.9338
2051	VLD_int_01	2385.7118	[So,] how did it change? How did the	2387.0717
2052		2387.1781	progra- did it get better? Was it like more complicated?	2390.2224
2053	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2391.6794	It's more complicated.	2393.0486
2055		2393.2984	<laugh>	2395.2741
2056	VLD_int_01	2395.4776	Cause Mr.Newman.	2396.4305
2057	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2396.6664	[Uh-huh.]	2397.2816
2058	VLD_int_01	2396.7127	[Is like fifty-five and still.]	2398.5675
2059	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2397.3926	[All that /?/-]	2398.2437
2060		2398.6508	Uh-huh, still doing all that crazy stuff. No I di- [<laugh>]	2403.1706
2061	VLD_int_01	2402.5493	[<laugh>]	2403.7488
2062	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2404.3409	Woo. No.	2405.5805
2064		2406.9713	And i- and a- and I don't worry about it like I used to, you know.	2410.4550
2066		2410.8667	It used to be a time t-	2412.1109
2068		2412.4070	twelve o'clock, we gonna turn that TV on you know, to watch	2415.5345
2070		2415.6316	l- Love of Life	2416.6863
2072		2417.0286	but now, it don't make no difference. (laughing)	2419.8323
2073	VLD_int_01	2420.3689	[If it's on, it's on.]	2421.3819
2074	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2420.5215	[If i- if it's] on, it's on, you know.	2422.6631
2075		2423.2321	And I used to have some customer	2425.2257
2077		2425.9433	and they wouldn't come when the	2427.8398
2079		2427.9878	soap operas on, cause they wanna	2429.9814
2081		2430.4162	watch when they wanna watch it, you know.[<laugh>]	2433.0211
2082	VLD_int_01	2432.5816	[<laugh>]	2433.6918
2083		2434.3394	[So, they'd wait.]	2435.1350
2084	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2434.4134	[When they -]	2435.1350
2085		2435.3292	uh-huh. Yeah.	2436.2405
2086	VLD_int_01	2436.3105	Hm.	2436.5464
2087	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2436.5464	Mm-mm. Mm.	2437.2541
2088		2438.4197	Yeah, then you got some that come in here, they don't walk, so why- they wanna talk.	2442.7585
2090		2443.4761	And then you got some wanna [watch TV s-]	2445.8907
2091	VLD_int_01	2445.2801	[<laugh>]	2446.5938
2092	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2446.3116	[<laugh>]	2446.5706
2093	VLD_int_01	2446.8805	You can't have them here together?	2447.9443
2094	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2447.8982	No, you can't have them toge- together.	2450.2301
2095		2450.8175	And you'll say, were they watching soap o- I don't like soap opera.	2453.9907
2097		2454.4810	Well, you need to hush. [You know (laughing)]	2456.3928
2098	VLD_int_01	2455.8562	[<laugh>]	2458.0256
2099	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2456.5732	[That. <laugh>]	2458.0256
2100		2458.7194	You know, you ain't home. [<laugh>]	2460.9860
2101	VLD_int_01	2460.6529	[Right.]	2460.9860
2102	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2461.8371	But,	2462.0690
2104		2462.1523	you- you go through a lots with this /??/.	2464.6454
2106		2465.5474	Mm.	2465.7278
2107	VLD_int_01	2466.2366	[Really?]	2466.5003
2108	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2466.2783	[Attitudes.]	2467.3468
2109	VLD_int_01	2467.4717	A.	2467.6659
2111		2468.1384	Oh, I can [imagine.]	2468.9974
2112	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2468.7490	[You] have to learn them.	2469.8961
2113		2470.3355	Their attitudes.	2471.3902
2114	VLD_int_01	2472.6067	So, how long-	2473.1941
2116		2473.2959	So, most of your customers you've had for a really long time right?	2475.5075
2117	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2475.5862	Oh yeah.	2476.0164
2118	VLD_int_01	2476.2615	So, who's your customer that you've had for the longest?	2478.5697
2119	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2481.1329	You know what, all my older customers about dead.	2484.1626
2120	VLD_int_01	2484.4864	Mm.	2484.8056
2121	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2484.8056	Mm-hm.	2485.2358
2122		2485.5133	Really is.	2486.2031
2124		2488.4327	Really. And	2489.2236
2126		2490.0285	I got one lady. Ninety-seven.	2491.9996
2128		2492.8507	and she's been coming a g-	2494.3216
2130		2495.2421	oh,	2495.8620
2132		2498.0875	I know I've been doing her hair about twenty years.	2500.5946
2134		2503.0230	Yeah, she ninety-seven. Mrs., uh,	2505.2485
2136		2505.7666	/RD-NAME-3/ out here.	2507.0849
2138		2508.9496	Yeah, but the rest of 'em is gone.	2510.6009
2139	VLD_int_01	2511.6186	Now, what do you do to keep yourself active and	2514.1395
2141		2514.4540	beyond just doing hair. Cause I know you don't	2516.0875
2143		2516.3743	be in the shop all day.	2517.3734
2144	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2517.9470	I go to	2518.6362
2146		2519.3023	a chair aerobics	2520.4910
2148		2520.7454	every Monday and Wednesday.	2522.9062
2150		2523.7018	[For an hour.]	2524.5390
2151	VLD_int_01	2523.7018	[/inaudible/]	2524.5390
2152	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2524.8675	Mm-hm.	2525.4919
2153	VLD_int_01	2525.5017	Mm-hm.	2526.0109
2154	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2527.1571	And I was going to cha- um,	2529.1190
2156		2529.5769	water aerobics once,	2531.0386
2158		2531.1820	but when it got cold, I had this allergy. I couldn't stand that chlorine	2534.8785
2160		2535.5862	in that water.	2536.2985
2162		2536.9507	So, I had to let that alone.	2538.5234
2164		2539.1109	But,	2539.4254
2166		2540.2818	I stay active.	2541.2439
2167	VLD_int_01	2543.0016	So, when you're not at the shop, what does your typical day look like? So, you go to aerobics, what else do you do?	2547.2208
2168	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2548.2569	Mostly go shopping, gl- just looking in the store.	2551.5642
2169	VLD_int_01	2551.6897	<laugh>	2552.2771
2170	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2552.9571	Don't (laughing) buy nothing.	2553.8267
2172		2554.6084	Oh, and I go to Bible study, on Wednesday f-	2557.7816
2174		2557.9996	from	2558.3280
2176		2558.6934	twelve to one. I go to a mission meeting every Monday from	2562.7824
2178		2563.7954	four to five or six.	2566.0811
2180		2568.3199	Sunday school and	2569.5093
2182		2569.5879	and church, that's it.	2570.7952
2183	VLD_int_01	2572.4882	So, let me ask you this,	2573.6769
2185		2574.7963	<ts> thinking about just kind of, you've seen a lot of things, you've been through a lot.	2578.2615
2187		2578.8305	Um. Has there ever been a time you were like, oh my god, I'm about to die? For whatever reason. Something was going on, or you were somewhere,	2584.6778
2189		2584.9739	and you were like, oh my god, I might die right now.	2586.7103
2190	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2586.7131	Mm-hm.	2587.0785
2191	VLD_int_01	2590.4015	Or something just really scared you or.	2592.2933
2192	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2593.4041	Mm.	2593.6030
2194		2594.1211	Well, I got sick in	2595.3885
2196		2595.6290	two thousand seven.	2597.2063
2198		2598.9092	I had um,	2599.7001
2200		2600.5975	I went in for a colonoscopy.	2602.3972
2202		2603.1323	I.	2603.4191
2204		2603.7059	They found out I had	2605.0109
2206		2605.4966	um,	2606.0471
2208		2606.6438	what you call them?	2607.3885
2210		2608.4709	Polyps.	2609.1416
2212		2610.1460	So, I went in the hospital to get the polyps out,	2612.7224
2214		2614.1887	and when they	2615.0306
2216		2615.1416	found cancer, I had	2616.3264
2218		2616.4004	cancer on the colon.	2617.6400
2220		2618.1720	So, they cut it.	2619.0739
2222		2619.9759	And my doctor	2620.8363
2224		2620.9057	cut it too short.	2622.2332
2226		2623.2330	And they	2623.6261
2228		2623.7233	put it back together the wrong way	2626.0407
2230		2626.3783	in my stomach.	2627.1647
2232		2628.4929	So, I had to end up having surgery	2630.8982
2234		2631.8649	for them to turn it right round.	2633.7105
2236		2634.1684	So, I stayed in the hospital off and on for six months.	2636.6993
2238		2637.4440	Over ni-	2637.9158
2240		2637.9991	over and over. And I really thought I was gonna die then.	2640.5854
2242		2642.3385	Cause they did so many wrong things. And how- why I say they're wrong because t-	2646.8305
2244		2647.3162	the other doctors told me about what the other doctor had did and it was wrong.	2651.7013
2246		2652.8490	So, I went over to	2654.0193
2248		2654.2136	you remember	2654.8010
2250		2655.0138	came to visit me to over there in Quitman?	2657.2248
2252		2658.1083	And I was over there for	2659.0063
2254		2659.1636	three weeks. They called it a swing bed instead of the nursing home.	2663.4839
2256		2664.7858	And they had um,	2665.7710
2258		2666.2984	turned my colon upside-down.	2668.4354
2260		2668.8794	And I-	2669.2402
2262		2669.4114	my urine was coming out of my mouth instead of	2672.0116
2264		2673.7600	your rectum.	2674.5279
2265	VLD_int_01	2675.1662	Mm.	2675.6241
2266	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2675.8514	And	2676.1937
2268		2676.6794	I just laid there for a while and I just-	2678.7239
2270		2678.8627	just aksed to die.	2679.9959
2272		2681.1940	Cause I was just so sick and wasn't nothing they doing	2684.1041
2274		2684.1920	to-	2684.4418
2276		2684.7260	to straighten it out. And it lasted about six months. I had to wear a colostomy on the side	2690.1365
2278		2691.3299	for three months.	2692.4770
2280		2693.1801	No. It was longer than that. About four or five month.	2695.8219
2282		2697.4131	Well I s-	2697.8757
2284		2698.0746	I wasn't working then. I didn't work for six months.	2700.6193
2286		2701.1651	It was in two thousand seven.	2702.6499
2287	VLD_int_01	2704.1763	So, they fixed everything?	2705.5501
2288	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2705.5501	Yeah, it's- it's better.	2706.8876
2289		2707.3224	<laugh>	2708.1596
2291		2709.1356	But, it still ain't like it used to be, so I been	2711.7543
2293		2712.1336	just really going down, it look like	2714.1920
2295		2714.4001	ever [since] then, but other than that.	2716.2735
2296	VLD_int_01	2714.7983	[Since.]	2715.0089
2297		2718.2909	How did you meet my mom?	2719.3825
2298	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2720.5713	Her and /RD-NAME-2/ my	2721.5796
2300		2721.6999	youngest daughter [classmate.]	2723.4114
2301	VLD_int_01	2722.6296	[They went to school] that's right.	2723.9105
2302	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2723.9891	And /RD-NAME-2/ were	2724.6783
2304		2724.8124	/RD-NAME-2/ used to see each other. They was friend. My son.<laugh> [She used to call]	2729.6375
2305	VLD_int_01	2728.8598	[Oh she used to hang out with my mom.]	2730.2030
2306	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2729.9208	[/RD-NAME-2/]	2730.4019
2307		2730.4944	Uh-huh. [<laugh>]	2731.3871
2308	VLD_int_01	2731.1050	[Oh.]	2731.8208
2309	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2732.1539	Yeah.	2732.7320
2311		2732.9217	You know.	2733.6479
2313		2734.6250	She started coming over here right after	2736.2261
2315		2736.3788	she'd finished high school.	2737.7525
2317		2739.5935	Yeah, cause /RD-NAME-2/ musta told, my mama fix hair. Something like that. <laugh>	2743.2900
2319		2743.6415	And sh- sheriffs started coming over here.	2745.7369
2321		2746.4770	But, I used to do	2747.6010
2323		2749.3964	Uh.	2749.9191
2325		2750.2984	Her aunt's hair. Which one of 'em was it?	2752.6667
2327		2752.7453	That	2752.9997
2329		2753.9902	worked at the	2754.8644
2331		2755.5490	<ts> Walmart's as the greeter?	2757.1448
2332	VLD_int_01	2757.3622	Oh.	2757.7092
2334		2758.0468	Aunt /RD-NAME-2/.	2758.6389
2335	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2758.7393	Yeah, I used to do /RD-NAME-2/'s hair.	2760.4296
2336	VLD_int_01	2760.8829	Cause she wanted her bouffant.	2762.1781
2337	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2762.1781	Oh yeah.	2762.7332
2338		2762.8719	Yeah. I. Yeah. I used to do /RD-NAME-2/'s hair in one.	2765.2263
2340		2767.9653	Um.	2768.2937
2342		2768.3770	The. What the other one name?	2769.5658
2343	VLD_int_01	2772.8274	The-	2773.0402
2345		2773.7155	Her older sister?	2774.5944
2347		2775.6675	Oh. That lived over	2776.7638
2349		2777.7860	on	2778.1382
2351		2778.2400	A- East. Uh. A. /RD-NAME-2/.	2779.7248
2353		2780.1596	/RD-NAME-3/?	2780.6453
2354	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2780.9644	Yeah.	2781.3206
2355	VLD_int_01	2781.3992	[Mm-hm.]	2781.8387
2356	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2781.6120	[Uh-huh. Yeah.	2782.2318
2357	VLD_int_01	2782.0283	[You used to do her hair too?]	2782.9072
2358	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2782.4955	[Yeah I] used to do /RD-NAME-3/.	2783.9341
2359		2784.0550	Mm-hm. I	2784.6470
2361		2784.7395	couldn't think her name, but I know /RD-NAME-2/ cause /RD-NAME-2/ (laughing)	2787.2744
2363		2787.6213	<laugh>she	2788.3660
2365		2788.8841	she- wasn't nobody no stranger to her.	2791.1651
2366	VLD_int_01	2791.3733	Mm-mm.	2791.8081
2367	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2791.8589	[Mm-mm.]	2792.2382
2368	VLD_int_01	2792.0810	[Mm-mm.]	2792.5666
2369	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2793.1957	[Mm.]	2793.6768
2370	VLD_int_01	2793.5658	[Cause] what'd she work at the hospital for a [long time.]	2795.9387
2371	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2795.3281	[A long] time. [Mm-hm.]	2797.1235
2372	VLD_int_01	2796.9384	[And then she retired.]	2797.8682
2373	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2797.3779	[Yeah, that's] where I met her. At the hospital.	2799.5334
2374	VLD_int_01	2799.7138	[Mm-hm.]	2800.3752
2375	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2800.1208	[Mm-hm.]	2800.5279
2376		2801.4761	And she got that job out there, say cause said she couldn't just stay home and do nothing. [She.]	2805.8849
2377	VLD_int_01	2805.3021	[Mm-mm.]	2805.6860
2378		2806.1810	Drove her crazy.	2806.9164
2379	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2806.9164	Drove her crazy. And that was her, hum.	2808.9523
2380		2809.3918	When she died,	2810.4880
2382		2810.7794	they put a sign up.	2812.1347
2384		2812.2411	Had a big old flyer way out there. And I said, now they really know what that said. [<laugh>]	2816.2529
2385	VLD_int_01	2816.1511	[Mm-hm.]	2816.6877
2386	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2817.2289	She was a greeter.	2818.4917
2387	VLD_int_01	2818.8710	I remember that. I remember um.	2820.9016
2389		2821.6238	Cause she passed away in two thousand ten.	2823.6036
2390	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2823.7146	Mm-hm.	2824.4038
2391	VLD_int_01	2824.7137	So, my daughter has her- my daughter's middle name is Pearl.	2827.3509
2392	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2827.5359	Mm-hm.	2828.2159
2393	VLD_int_01	2828.2714	Um.	2828.6276
2395		2829.5111	<ts>	2829.6267
2397		2829.9644	Because	2831.0421
2399		2831.5139	right around that time, I think I got pregnant.	2832.9346
2401		2834.3084	But, I rem-	2834.9097
2403		2835.0392	Yup. I just remember [everybody]	2836.4315
2404	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2835.9644	[Mm-hm.]	2836.4315
2405	VLD_int_01	2836.6562	at all /??/ you know everybody talked about the sweet potato [pies and] her being the greeter at Walmart.	2841.0029
2406	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2839.0133	[Mm-hm.]	2839.6377
2408		2841.0022	Yeah.	2841.4463
2409		2841.7423	Mm-hm.	2842.4685
2410	VLD_int_01	2842.5518	Mm-hm.	2843.1069
2411	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2843.4075	Yes sir.	2844.6148
2412	VLD_int_01	2845.1123	So, you've known my mom a long [time.]	2847.0380
2413	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2846.5298	[Yeah.] Ever since she was out of high school.	2849.2063
2414		2849.7472	[Before] she got out of high [school.]	2851.3372
2415	VLD_int_01	2849.8871	[Mm.]	2850.1435
2417		2851.1088	[And] how long has the little /RD-NAME-2/ been coming?	2853.6955
2418	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2854.0965	Huh?	2854.4369
2419	VLD_int_01	2854.6840	The little one.	2855.2296
2421		2855.4721	B- about a year now?	2856.5072
2422	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2856.5632	About a [year (laughing). <laugh>]	2858.2454
2423	VLD_int_01	2857.3699	[Off and on.] Mm-hm.	2858.8049
2424	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2859.1639	[Yeah.]	2859.5137
2425	VLD_int_01	2859.2712	[But at] first she wasn't trying to.	2860.4602
2426	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2860.5255	No, she wasn't trying to do nothing.	2862.2461
2427	VLD_int_01	2862.3627	[Mm-mm.]	2862.6798
2428	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2862.4355	[Mm-mm.]	2862.8523
2429	VLD_int_01	2862.8523	But, now she know that, she come and get her [hair done.]	2865.0987
2430	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2864.4039	[Mm-hm.]	2865.0241
2431		2865.1546	[Mm-hm.]	2865.6769
2433		2866.0919	Yeah, cause /RD-NAME-2/ wanted to come in here one or two times and leave in. And I said, no you don't leave it in there the car. You bring her on in here.	2872.8193
2435		2873.2343	She ain't gonna bother me or you. <laugh>	2875.9656
2437		2876.4598	Yeah, so I.	2877.6256
2439		2877.7561	So, I say, you bring her on in here.	2879.7938
2441		2879.9477	<laugh>	2880.3487
2442	VLD_int_01	2881.4165	N- Now she just does her little	2883.1686
2444		2883.2945	place she come and sit and [do her little]	2885.4441
2445	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2884.6561	[Mm-hm.]	2885.1084
2446	VLD_int_01	2886.0689	be her little woman self and	2887.5331
2448		2887.8129	get her little hair done.	2888.9728
2449	VLD_se0_ag4_f_02	2889.5883	Yes sir, she's a sweet child.	2891.7612