Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCA_int_01 0.4515 What kind of games did you play 1.8190 2 DCA_int_01 1.8190 (pause 0.52) 2.3422 3 DCA_int_01 2.3422 when you were a kid, say about uh 3.9998 4 DCA_int_01 3.9998 (pause 0.41) 4.4129 5 DCA_int_01 4.4129 ten or so? 5.2724 6 DCA_int_01 5.2724 (pause 0.54) 5.8082 7 DCA_int_01 5.8082 Do you remember? 6.5784 8 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 7.2035 Well, when I was a kid, 8.3965 9 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 8.3965 (pause 1.32) 9.7192 10 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 9.7192 really I didn't play too many games. 11.1871 11 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 11.1871 (pause 0.91) 12.0969 12 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 12.0969 You know, cause I really wasn't interested in 'em. 13.6261 13 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 13.6261 (pause 0.60) 14.2233 14 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 14.2233 Cause there's so many other things around now that um, 16.5563 15 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 16.5563 (pause 0.23) 16.7837 16 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 16.7837 besides games. 17.5037 17 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 17.5037 (pause 0.57) 18.0730 18 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 18.0730 And they are so far out in suburban areas, you know, the kids around there didn't care too much for playing, 21.6283 19 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 21.6283 (pause 0.59) 22.2199 20 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 22.2199 but mostly we went hunting, you know, for rabbits. 24.4592 21 DCA_int_01 24.4454 Uh-huh. 24.7687 22 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 24.6407 Know, catch snakes and keep 'em for pets. 26.5216 23 DCA_int_01 26.8788 Oh yeah? 27.3532 24 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 27.3197 Yeah. [] 28.4193 25 DCA_int_01 27.9002 [You keep snakes?] 28.6369 26 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 28.5588 Go swimming, you know, and things like that. 30.2834 27 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 30.6225 But far as go, like games, 31.8169 28 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 31.8169 (pause 0.37) 32.1908 29 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 32.1908 seriously we didn't take no games /in/, except for like 34.2224 30 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 34.2224 (pause 0.12) 34.3396 31 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 34.3396 ball, like 34.9535 32 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 34.9535 (pause 0.19) 35.1433 33 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 35.1433 what boys usually play. 36.1591 34 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 36.1591 (pause 0.90) 37.0576 35 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 37.0576 That's about it. 37.6214 36 DCA_int_01 38.2507 Did you ever play any, 39.0376 37 DCA_int_01 39.0376 (pause 0.45) 39.4841 38 DCA_int_01 39.4841 well 39.8246 39 DCA_int_01 39.8246 (pause 0.50) 40.3269 40 DCA_int_01 40.3269 did you ever know of kids playing games, where one kid had to chase the others or anything? 44.2145 41 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 44.3956 Oh yeah, s- 45.2161 42 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 45.2161 (pause 0.10) 45.3165 43 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 45.3165 ah, yeah we had that played that. Um 47.0118 44 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 47.0118 (pause 0.20) 47.2128 45 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 47.2128 hide, go seek, kickball, 48.5690 46 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 48.5690 (pause 0.31) 48.8821 47 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 48.8821 basketball, football, 50.1708 48 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 50.1708 (pause 0.68) 50.8517 49 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 50.8517 and we used to go horseback riding. 52.6880 50 DCA_int_01 52.7536 [Oh really?] 53.3396 51 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 52.8484 [That's more of] a sport, 53.7191 52 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 53.9089 you know, 54.2772 53 DCA_int_01 54.4726 Yeah. 54.8310 54 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 55.2316 actually. 55.6223 55 DCA_int_01 55.9126 Did you have to pay, or did you have friends that had horses or wha-? 58.5525 56 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 58.5525 No what it was, where we was living at was a stable out there. 61.3864 57 DCA_int_01 61.8050 [Oh, that's just] lovely [as a] kid. 63.7361 58 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 61.8329 [And people owned] 62.4970 59 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 62.4970 (pause 0.36) 62.8542 60 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 62.8542 63.4793 61 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 63.8198 and so we was fortunate 65.0365 62 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 65.0365 (pause 0.84) 65.8793 63 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 65.8793 until you know, they had to tear the stable down, and it got moved. 68.4118 64 DCA_int_01 69.4387 They let you ride for free? 70.6834 65 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 70.8731 Yeah. 71.2582 66 DCA_int_01 71.3643 Or for work? Or what? 72.5028 67 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 72.5866 No, just free. 73.2366 68 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 73.2366 (pause 0.18) 73.4158 69 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 73.4158 That's /unintelligible/ we ride cause knew him very well. 75.2921 70 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 75.2921 (pause 0.17) 75.4595 71 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 75.4595 Th- his son was one of the fellas. 76.8660 72 DCA_int_01 77.4688 I always had to shovel out the horse [manure to earn my ride.] 81.2864 73 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 79.3887 [] 81.2417 74 DCA_int_01 82.4291 How'd you play hide and go seek? 83.8747 75 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 84.6784 Well, 85.0635 76 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 85.0635 (pause 0.19) 85.2532 77 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 85.2532 somebody stand at a tree or somewhere and then count to ten, you know, and everybody go and hide. 89.2815 78 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 89.2815 (pause 0.18) 89.4657 79 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 89.4657 And then someone come and find you. 90.5652 80 DCA_int_01 91.0899 Mm. 91.5308 81 DCA_int_01 91.5308 (pause 0.20) 91.7317 82 DCA_int_01 91.7317 Then what [happens /they] go find you/? 93.3279 83 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 92.1782 [And then-] 92.5689 84 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 92.5689 (pause 0.74) 93.3056 85 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 93.3056 well if they catch you and get back to the base before you do, you it. 96.3962 86 DCA_int_01 96.8327 Hm. 97.0934 87 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 97.1832 And if not, well, you safe. 98.6790 88 DCA_int_01 98.8855 Mm-hm. 99.5329 89 DCA_int_01 99.5329 (pause 1.07) 100.6045 90 DCA_int_01 100.6045 How'd you pick the first person to be it? 102.3793 91 DCA_int_01 102.3793 (pause 0.97) 103.3491 92 DCA_int_01 103.3491 When you first start out playing? 104.6218 93 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 105.0067 Well what we did, everybody start hollering, I'm not it, you know? 107.8587 94 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 107.8587 (pause 0.54) 108.4001 95 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 108.4001 And then we start picking 109.3434 96 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 109.3434 (pause 0.94) 110.2852 97 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 110.2852 who didn't mind being it, 111.9596 98 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 111.9596 (pause 0.52) 112.4842 99 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 112.4842 you know? 112.8470 100 DCA_int_01 113.8684 Did you ever use rhymes or s- 115.4758 101 DCA_int_01 115.4758 (pause 0.09) 115.5707 102 DCA_int_01 115.5707 something? 116.4637 103 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 116.4637 No, I didn't. 117.1446 104 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 118.1087 Never. 118.4771 105 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 118.4771 (pause 0.36) 118.8399 106 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 118.8399 Like nursery school rhymes, and things? I don't know 'em. 120.8101 107 DCA_int_01 121.3012 Hm. 121.6584 108 DCA_int_01 121.6584 (pause 0.57) 122.2277 109 DCA_int_01 122.2277 Never learned 'em, huh? 123.0761 110 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 123.1709 No, they had 'em in school but um 124.6276 111 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 124.6276 (pause 0.78) 125.4076 112 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 125.4076 we didn't k- /??/ too much with 'em you know? 127.2774 113 DCA_int_01 128.3657 I don't mean so much those, but like, uh, you know, one potato, two potato. 132.1428 114 DCA_int_01 132.1428 (pause 0.21) 132.3549 115 DCA_int_01 132.3549 Did you ever hear that one? 133.5437 116 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 133.6051 Yeah, three potatoes, go, something like that. 135.3186 117 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 135.3186 (pause 0.63) 135.9437 118 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 135.9437 Then Mary had a little lamb, 137.2608 119 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 137.2608 (pause 0.47) 137.7297 120 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 137.7297 [feet was white as snow.] 138.5445 121 DCA_int_01 137.9013 [Or uh] 138.3087 122 DCA_int_01 138.3087 (pause 0.19) 138.4985 123 DCA_int_01 138.4985 engine, engine? 139.3078 124 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 140.0501 engine, engine, number nine? 141.0101 125 DCA_int_01 140.9989 Yeah. 141.3338 126 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 141.8975 I heard that one, and 142.8072 127 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 142.8072 (pause 0.15) 142.9523 128 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 142.9523 then- had one uh 144.0072 129 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 144.0072 (pause 1.47) 145.4806 130 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 145.4806 uh 145.8155 131 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 145.8155 (pause 1.19) 147.0085 132 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 147.0085 so long ago. It's kind of hard to remember 150.2066 133 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 150.2066 (pause 0.52) 150.7256 134 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 150.7256 [back that far.] 151.2949 135 DCA_int_01 150.7256 [Can you /use/] any of those that you remember perfect? 152.9791 136 DCA_int_01 153.2470 /unintelligible/ 153.8051 137 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 154.0284 No. 154.5865 138 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 154.5865 (pause 0.20) 154.7874 139 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 154.7874 We didn't pick anything like that. 156.1381 140 DCA_int_01 156.5008 How in the [world do you] play kickball? 158.0134 141 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 156.7911 [S-] 157.0646 142 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 158.6440 Kickball. Well it, uh, it was more than one way of playing. 161.3942 143 DCA_int_01 161.8269 [/??/] 162.1071 144 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 161.9579 Someone roll the ball and the other person kick it you know, run to a base, you know, and he had someone on his side. 166.7187 145 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 167.0076 Was two different teams, 168.1238 146 DCA_int_01 168.2646 Mm-hm. 168.6165 147 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 168.6429 you know, and it was similar to baseball /only you can use/ your foot. 171.2940 148 DCA_int_01 171.7126 Mm-hm. 172.2205 149 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 172.2651 And then you was allowed to through the ball at the person and hit them before you get to the base. 175.5902 150 DCA_int_01 175.8525 Mm-hm. 176.4050 151 DCA_int_01 176.4050 (pause 0.19) 176.5948 152 DCA_int_01 176.5948 Instead of throwing to the-? 177.4934 153 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 177.6664 Yeah, to the uh, to the other guy. 179.2403 154 DCA_int_01 180.8031 What were some variations in that? Do you remember? 183.6872 155 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 184.5076 Um 184.9374 156 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 184.9374 (pause 1.34) 186.2726 157 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 186.2726 It's /?/ now 188.1857 158 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 188.1857 (pause 0.48) 188.6699 159 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 188.6699 Boy you /got me/ going way back. [] 190.9470 160 DCA_int_01 190.0373 [] 190.9801 161 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 191.1368 192.2379 162 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 192.2379 (pause 0.29) 192.5278 163 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 192.5278 That's way back. 193.1628 164 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 193.1628 (pause 0.95) 194.1172 165 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 194.1172 Um, 194.4297 166 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 194.4297 (pause 0.21) 194.6418 167 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 194.6418 I can't remember exactly what was what you know, and- now a days, you know, because actually, I didn't play it too much 199.3733 168 DCA_int_01 199.4665 Mm-hm. 199.7878 169 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 199.7975 with the kids at all. 200.7407 170 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 200.7407 (pause 0.15) 200.8858 171 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 200.8858 Mostly I kept to myself. 202.0244 172 DCA_int_01 202.2197 Mm-hm. 202.5937 173 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 202.5881 You know? 202.9621 174 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 203.5802 Because uh, what it was, I had a dog for one thing. 206.1643 175 DCA_int_01 206.3538 Oh yeah? 206.9178 176 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 206.8899 And I spent most of my time with the dog, or I caught snakes for a pet, 209.8144 177 DCA_int_01 209.9707 [Mm-hm.] 210.3391 178 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 210.1718 [and] I usually keep them, you know, occupied with my time. 212.6874 179 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 213.2623 But other than that, far as go playing like with all the kids, I didn't even spend too much time with 'em. 216.4269 180 DCA_int_01 216.6892 Mm-hm. 217.1636 181 DCA_int_01 217.1636 (pause 0.45) 217.6157 182 DCA_int_01 217.6157 What did you do with the snakes? 219.1659 183 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 219.6626 Oh, well, 220.3100 184 DCA_int_01 220.3491 Once you- 220.8179 185 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 220.7565 keep 'em. 221.0412 186 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 221.8672 Well if my mother didn't um run me out the house with them right away, 224.8295 187 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 224.8295 (pause 0.52) 225.3541 188 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 225.3541 well I'd play with 'em for awhile, you know, 226.9224 189 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 226.9224 (pause 0.39) 227.3075 190 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 227.3075 because uh 227.9382 191 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 227.9382 (pause 0.21) 228.1447 192 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 228.1447 they wasn't poisonous. 229.1214 193 DCA_int_01 229.1884 Mm-hm. 229.5233 194 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 229.5624 There was only a few of 'em was poisonous, and the ones that was poisonous we'd pop the head off 232.7032 195 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 232.7032 (pause 0.56) 233.2613 196 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 233.2613 or put 'em over some fire and burn 'em. 234.8632 197 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 234.8632 (pause 0.60) 235.4659 198 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 235.4659 [Looking for they legs.] 236.3422 199 DCA_int_01 235.4827 [How could you tell?] 236.2585 200 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 237.1850 Pardon me? 237.5134 201 DCA_int_01 237.5143 How could you tell wha- which? 238.7352 202 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 238.7296 Oh [you can tell by the different] species of uh snakes because I read a lot of reptile books. 242.8765 203 DCA_int_01 238.9249 [/unintelligible/] 239.8403 204 DCA_int_01 243.0885 Oh. 243.4681 205 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 243.8029 You know? 244.2997 206 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 244.2997 (pause 0.10) 244.4001 207 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 244.4001 [And so that's why-] 245.1034 208 DCA_int_01 244.4057 [What kind of poisonous] snakes are there around here? 246.6416 209 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 246.9550 The only ones they had around here at- at that time, was um- 249.4079 210 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 249.4079 (pause 0.85) 250.2535 211 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 250.2535 what was those snakes? 251.1744 212 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 251.1744 (pause 2.43) 253.6064 213 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 253.6064 It wasn't a black snake cause they're none poisonous snakes. 255.5878 214 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 255.5878 (pause 1.27) 256.8547 215 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 256.8547 Um 257.8259 216 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 257.8259 (pause 0.29) 258.1161 217 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 258.1161 I don't even remember the name of the snakes now, 259.6677 218 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 259.6677 (pause 0.65) 260.3207 219 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 260.3207 but it was [way out there.] 261.3588 220 DCA_int_01 260.6709 [/Copperheads?/] 261.3797 221 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 262.3174 I don't think it was a Copperheads. 263.4392 222 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 263.4392 (pause 1.76) 265.1973 223 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 265.1973 Well anyway, it was one right out here in Maryland 266.8494 224 DCA_int_01 266.9703 Mm-hm. 267.2004 225 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 267.5289 cause usually if you ask someone who was living out here, if they not an adult, they gonna tell you the exact name of 'em you know. 271.6367 226 DCA_int_01 271.6242 Mm-hm. 271.9570 227 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 271.8711 But they got rid of all them. 272.7920 228 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 273.2274 But other than that, the rest of 'em was nothing but garden snakes you know? 275.5324 229 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 275.5324 (pause 0.84) 276.3682 230 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 276.3682 Or a black snake. 277.1608 231 DCA_int_01 278.1040 How- what did you feed them? How would you keep them alive? 280.0072 232 DCA_int_01 280.0072 (pause 0.25) 280.2583 233 DCA_int_01 280.2583 Or how long could you keep 'em alive? 281.6704 234 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 281.8099 Oh 282.1727 235 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 282.1727 (pause 0.60) 282.7685 236 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 282.7685 you can keep alive long time, all you have to do is really 284.3759 237 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 284.3759 (pause 0.14) 284.5155 238 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 284.5155 feed 'em insects, 285.5592 239 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 285.5592 (pause 0.20) 285.7601 240 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 285.7601 mice, 286.4354 241 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 286.4354 (pause 0.39) 286.8261 242 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 286.8261 any small animal, you know? 288.1879 243 DCA_int_01 288.2158 Oh yeah? Did you feed 'em mice alive or dead? 290.2851 244 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 290.5195 Alive. 291.0497 245 DCA_int_01 291.3846 Oh yeah? 291.8590 246 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 291.9539 Yeah. 292.2330 247 DCA_int_01 292.3055 How did that w- what was that like? How did it get 'em? 294.3929 248 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 294.4543 Well, what it is, they, know after they eat the mouse. 296.7747 249 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 296.7747 (pause 0.13) 296.9087 250 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 296.9087 They just lay there and let the food digest in their uh body. 299.3979 251 DCA_int_01 300.3300 Do the mice ever fight back or something? 302.1215 252 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 302.4397 No. 302.8750 253 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 302.8750 (pause 0.57) 303.4443 254 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 303.4443 They try their best to get away though. 304.5424 255 DCA_int_01 304.8271 Uh-huh. 305.3405 256 DCA_int_01 305.3405 (pause 0.70) 306.0382 257 DCA_int_01 306.0382 So you used to watch it? 307.2382 258 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 307.3107 Yeah, we used to watch 'em 308.3042 259 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 308.3042 (pause 0.23) 308.5330 260 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 308.5330 very very closely, you know, 309.9060 261 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 309.9060 (pause 0.27) 310.1795 262 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 310.1795 and you actually can see as the mouse, 312.3157 263 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 312.3157 (pause 0.96) 313.2757 264 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 313.2757 you know, as he digesting the mouse, you know, the way his skin moves and everything. 316.4682 265 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 316.4682 (pause 0.64) 317.1044 266 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 317.1044 And within about 318.0588 267 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 318.0588 (pause 0.52) 318.5821 268 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 318.5821 one or two days 319.5309 269 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 319.5309 (pause 0.17) 319.7039 270 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 319.7039 the mouse is gone. 320.5467 271 DCA_int_01 320.7030 Mm-hm. 321.2109 272 DCA_int_01 321.2109 (pause 1.16) 322.3718 273 DCA_int_01 322.3718 They didn't have to eat too often, at that rate then? 324.4536 274 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 324.5150 Ha, no they didn't. [] But when they did, they ate a lot. 327.1814 275 DCA_int_01 325.1833 [] 326.0428 276 DCA_int_01 327.4158 Uh-huh. 327.9461 277 DCA_int_01 327.9461 (pause 1.39) 329.3358 278 DCA_int_01 329.3358 Swallow 'em whole or? 330.3683 279 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 330.5413 Yeah, swallow 'em whole. 331.3785 280 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 331.3785 (pause 0.88) 332.2548 281 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 332.2548 They didn't believe in biting off some, and saving some for later. [] 336.3389 282 DCA_int_01 334.2571 [] 335.4902 283 DCA_int_01 336.8803 They don't own a refrigerator or [anything. ] 339.4700 284 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 338.2979 [ No.] 340.0448 285 DCA_int_01 340.6853 How about the dog? What-what kind of dog was it? 343.3922 286 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 343.5931 Well the dog I had, I had more than one breed of dog. 346.0489 287 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 346.0489 (pause 0.31) 346.3614 288 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 346.3614 Each dog I had was a Pedigree dog, except for one I [had] 348.9218 289 DCA_int_01 348.5191 [Oh really?] 348.9618 290 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 349.1172 was a mix breed. 349.9488 291 DCA_int_01 350.0721 Mm-hm. 350.4090 292 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 350.8920 But then uh, I found out that out of all the dogs I had, the mix breed was the best one. 354.2408 293 DCA_int_01 354.2617 No kidding. 354.9482 294 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 355.0933 Yes, he was easier to train for one thing. 357.1974 295 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 357.1974 (pause 0.55) 357.7500 296 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 357.7500 And then like, if we left him out, and went out of town, he took care of himself. 360.4011 297 DCA_int_01 360.4346 No kidding. 361.1936 298 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 361.6332 Yes, 361.9792 299 DCA_int_01 362.3252 [What was his] name? 363.5643 300 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 362.3420 [and-] 362.7382 301 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 363.7094 oh, we called him Keno. 364.6861 302 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 364.6861 (pause 0.91) 365.5958 303 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 365.5958 K-e-n-o. 366.3270 304 DCA_int_01 366.6005 Mm-hm. 367.0637 305 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 367.5158 And so uh 368.3362 306 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 368.3362 (pause 0.42) 368.7535 307 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 368.7535 to me, he was a beautiful dog cause he was- uh he was a mixed breed with German Shepard and Boxer. 372.4092 308 DCA_int_01 372.5264 Mm-hm. 373.0789 309 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 373.2129 And he was trained to uh baby-sit 374.9889 310 DCA_int_01 375.3053 No [kidding?] 375.9667 311 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 375.6240 [little] kids 376.3089 312 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 376.4654 across the street up by the light. 377.7435 313 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 377.7435 (pause 0.36) 378.1007 314 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 378.1007 He /???/ open the door 379.3788 315 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 379.3788 (pause 0.28) 379.6578 316 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 379.6578 or ring the doorbell. 380.5453 317 DCA_int_01 380.5590 /Yes./ 380.8959 318 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 381.6057 And so he was very well trained because uh we had him for five years. 384.4452 319 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 384.4452 (pause 0.20) 384.6405 320 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 384.6405 before he caught stimples and we had him put b- 386.1195 321 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 386.1195 (pause 0.22) 386.3372 322 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 386.3372 you know, put him away. 387.0963 323 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 387.0963 (pause 0.91) 388.0060 324 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 388.0060 And I thought more him than I did any dog . 390.6948 325 DCA_int_01 390.8455 Sure that's pretty smart for dog to do all that. 393.5189 326 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 393.6194 Yeah. 393.8370 327 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 393.8370 (pause 1.04) 394.8751 328 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 394.8751 He even worked for a living where I- he was living . 396.9779 329 DCA_int_01 396.9667 Really? 397.4802 330 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 397.5416 Yeah, a watch dog for a gas station 399.1881 331 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 399.1881 (pause 0.49) 399.6792 332 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 399.6792 at night. 400.2429 333 DCA_int_01 400.4439 [Impressive.] 402.3247 334 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 400.5220 [It sounds-] 402.3790 335 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 402.5803 sounds incredible. But it really was true though. 404.6298 336 DCA_int_01 404.7742 No kidding. 405.3617 337 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 405.4321 And if you could see the owner of the gas station now, he would tell you the same thing, 408.0764 338 DCA_int_01 408.0805 Mm-hm. 408.4938 339 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 408.6581 and when the dog was there he wasn't allowed to go inside at all. 411.1473 340 DCA_int_01 411.2701 Mm-hm. 411.9789 341 DCA_int_01 411.9789 (pause 0.31) 412.2845 342 DCA_int_01 412.2845 Was he a big dog? 413.2389 343 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 413.6128 Yeah he was very large. 414.6454 344 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 414.6454 (pause 0.66) 415.3040 345 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 415.3040 I don't care too much for a small dog. 416.5653 346 DCA_int_01 416.6816 Mm-hm. 417.0082 347 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 417.0900 I like a larger dog for this reason: 418.6025 348 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 418.6025 (pause 0.31) 418.9137 349 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 418.9137 if they don't bite, 419.7620 350 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 419.7620 (pause 0.18) 419.9462 351 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 419.9462 well they could scare devil out of somebody though, 421.4196 352 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 421.4196 (pause 0.68) 422.1005 353 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 422.1005 give them the impression that they will bite, [you know], that's a lot of protection. 424.7014 354 DCA_int_01 423.5622 [Mm-hm.] 423.9062 355 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 425.4884 But a smaller dog, they so small, 427.0721 356 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 427.0721 (pause 0.51) 427.5800 357 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 427.5800 just can't have no fun with 'em. 428.7241 358 DCA_int_01 428.8692 Yeah. 429.2097 359 DCA_int_01 429.2097 (pause 1.30) 430.5101 360 DCA_int_01 430.5101 I think I agree with you. 431.4533 361 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 431.5147 You know, cause if you start wrestling with them you might hurt 'em, you know? 433.7624 362 DCA_int_01 433.9915 Right. 434.2795 363 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 434.5607 And that's the only thing about it. 435.3923 364 DCA_int_01 435.6801 Mm-hm. 436.1978 365 DCA_int_01 436.1978 (pause 0.39) 436.5923 366 DCA_int_01 436.5923 Do you think Keno would have uh bit somebody if he tried to rob the gas station? 439.7010 367 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 439.9857 I know he would have. [] 441.2214 368 DCA_int_01 440.7155 [ He was a real watch dog.] 442.8196 369 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 441.5501 [I know this for a fact.] 442.5126 370 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 442.5126 (pause 0.25) 442.7638 371 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 442.7638 Yeah. 443.1154 372 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 443.5340 And he was the type of dog, like he if he know someone 445.5209 373 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 445.5209 (pause 0.66) 446.1795 374 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 446.1795 and um 446.6427 375 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 446.6427 (pause 0.43) 447.0725 376 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 447.0725 you tell him come over go with you somewhere at night, 449.0078 377 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 449.0078 (pause 0.20) 449.2032 378 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 449.2032 he'll go with you. 449.7613 379 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 449.7613 (pause 1.05) 450.8106 380 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 450.8106 And he will protect you, 451.9045 381 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 451.9045 (pause 0.15) 452.0552 382 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 452.0552 you know. If someone come tryna bother you, he'll watch out for you, you know. 454.2207 383 DCA_int_01 454.2207 Mm-hm. 454.6951 384 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 455.2184 Because uh 455.8435 385 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 455.8435 (pause 0.27) 456.1114 386 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 456.1114 he was trained very well 457.1439 387 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 457.1439 (pause 0.43) 457.5737 388 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 457.5737 cause I spent all my time with him. I didn't even, you know, go to parties, or nothing like that. 460.8275 389 DCA_int_01 460.8833 Hm. 461.1233 390 DCA_int_01 461.1233 (pause 1.12) 462.2438 391 DCA_int_01 462.2438 How'd you go about training him? 463.5386 392 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 464.2865 Well I started out when he was a puppy you know, house breaking him, 466.9264 393 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 466.9264 (pause 0.41) 467.3395 394 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 467.3395 and then after that 468.0315 395 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 468.0315 (pause 0.35) 468.3776 396 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 468.3776 you know, I start /turning around/ the front door you know. 470.3017 397 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 470.3017 (pause 0.69) 470.9882 398 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 470.9882 And then watch very closely, he put his foot up on a paw- his paw up 474.1081 399 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 474.1081 (pause 0.50) 474.6104 400 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 474.6104 you know, and try to get him up there to reach the doorbell, and as he got larger he was able to reach it you know? 478.1420 401 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 478.1420 (pause 0.42) 478.5662 402 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 478.5662 When he was able to reach it, I stopped pushing it with the paw, 480.6480 403 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 480.6480 (pause 0.44) 481.0833 404 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 481.0833 and every time he pushed the doorbell, we'll open the door on the other side. 483.7456 405 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 483.7456 (pause 0.65) 484.3916 406 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 484.3916 And so it got so he was in a habit 485.8037 407 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 485.8037 (pause 0.27) 486.0772 408 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 486.0772 you know? When he wanted to get in, he ring the doorbell. 487.8408 409 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 487.8408 (pause 0.42) 488.2650 410 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 488.2650 We know to answer. 489.0464 411 DCA_int_01 488.2650 489.0352 412 DCA_int_01 489.6213 That's great. 490.4640 413 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 490.7919 And then if the door was unlocked, 492.1259 414 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 492.1259 (pause 0.11) 492.2375 415 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 492.2375 you know, he could turn the doorknob with his mouth 494.0514 416 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 494.0514 (pause 0.40) 494.4477 417 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 494.4477 [to come in.] 494.9444 418 DCA_int_01 494.5155 [No kidding.] 495.0634 419 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 496.3118 He was easy to train, but 497.5062 420 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 497.5062 (pause 0.54) 498.0462 421 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 498.0462 I tell you, like a- a Pedigree dog, 499.7038 422 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 499.7038 (pause 0.16) 499.8657 423 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 499.8657 they a little difficult. 500.6638 424 DCA_int_01 500.9819 Oh yeah? 501.5512 425 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 501.6572 Yeah, they say they're easier, but they're not. 503.3763 426 DCA_int_01 503.3986 Mm-hm. 503.9344 427 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 503.9846 The uh Pedigree dog wouldn't take care of themselves. 505.8418 428 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 505.8418 (pause 0.68) 506.5171 429 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 506.5171 They got no mixed breed. 507.6390 430 DCA_int_01 509.2687 What else did- was he trained to do? 511.0603 431 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 511.7077 He was trained to kill. 512.4891 432 DCA_int_01 513.0681 Really? 513.5872 433 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 513.7323 Yes. 514.1621 434 DCA_int_01 514.3407 Did you do that on [purpose?] 515.4234 435 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 514.9658 [He almo-] 515.4737 436 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 515.8309 yes, I did 516.4281 437 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 516.4281 (pause 0.63) 517.0587 438 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 517.0587 because around the area where I /had/ was living at 518.8782 439 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 518.8782 (pause 0.39) 519.2633 440 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 519.2633 everyone had a dog 520.0433 441 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 520.0433 (pause 0.21) 520.2498 442 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 520.2498 was trained to kill. 521.1373 443 DCA_int_01 521.2098 Hm. 521.6563 444 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 521.8963 And most of the boys used to put their dogs up to fight each other, 524.1511 445 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 524.1511 (pause 0.27) 524.4190 446 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 524.4190 make bets, 525.0330 447 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 525.0330 (pause 0.92) 525.9483 448 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 525.9483 and so uh, after I had him. 527.4594 449 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 527.4594 (pause 0.49) 527.9450 450 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 527.9450 First time I was seen him fight, scared me half to death cause I thought he couldn't fight, you know? 531.4947 451 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 531.4947 (pause 0.54) 532.0361 452 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 532.0361 But end up, this man's dog- he had a Boxer and he stick his dog on 534.8867 453 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 534.8867 (pause 0.24) 535.1267 454 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 535.1267 Keno, 535.6234 455 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 535.6234 (pause 0.83) 536.4550 456 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 536.4550 and 536.8513 457 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 536.8513 (pause 0.13) 536.9852 458 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 536.9852 I thought for sure the dog was gonna kill Keno but 538.7266 459 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 538.7266 (pause 0.20) 538.9275 460 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 538.9275 uh the dog didn't cause Keno got to his throat first. 541.1433 461 DCA_int_01 541.4147 Hm. 541.6540 462 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 542.0907 But I end up making him let it go though before he killed him. 544.0553 463 DCA_int_01 544.3480 Gee whiz. 544.9318 464 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 544.9427 But mostly I was scared half to death. 546.3269 465 DCA_int_01 546.3659 [] 547.6440 466 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 546.6450 [] 547.5869 467 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 547.6850 And then I had no trouble about that guy no more, you know? 549.4454 468 DCA_int_01 549.5124 Yeah. 549.8528 469 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 550.4054 Then Keno kind of got a name for himself behind that you know? 552.9504 470 DCA_int_01 553.0621 I guess he would. Hm. 554.0667 471 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 554.0946 Cause guys used to come around seeking for him you know? 556.0522 472 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 556.0522 (pause 0.52) 556.5769 473 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 556.5769 Bring their dogs, stick their dogs on him. 558.3405 474 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 558.3405 (pause 0.99) 559.3340 475 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 559.3340 But he took care of hisself pretty [well.] 560.5396 476 DCA_int_01 560.2646 [Mm-hm.] 560.6498 477 DCA_int_01 561.3433 Well how would you train a dog, I mean, you couldn't let him practice on [anybody ] 565.2432 478 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 564.6328 [] 565.3817 479 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 565.4965 No you [couldn't.] 566.1194 480 DCA_int_01 565.7678 [for someone to kill.] 566.5492 481 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 566.5380 All you do is 567.1854 482 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 567.2736 get a dummy. 568.0282 483 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 568.0282 (pause 0.83) 568.8542 484 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 568.8542 That's all. 569.3733 485 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 569.3733 (pause 0.57) 569.9412 486 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 569.9412 And keep telling him, attack, 571.0072 487 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 571.0072 (pause 0.25) 571.2528 488 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 571.2528 but you, you can use yourself as a target. 572.7151 489 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 572.7151 (pause 0.54) 573.2539 490 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 573.2539 You know, put your arm up, 574.2611 491 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 574.2611 (pause 0.94) 575.2043 492 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 575.2043 show him some of the ways that a person would be mean to him 577.7145 493 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 577.7145 (pause 0.33) 578.0438 494 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 578.0438 because a dog know they master not gonna hurt him, 579.7238 495 DCA_int_01 579.8019 Mm-hm. 580.1703 496 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 580.5721 and then he'll know to attack, 581.8446 497 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 581.8446 (pause 0.48) 582.3246 498 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 582.3246 attack your arm, or go for your throat, go anything. 584.5404 499 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 584.5404 (pause 0.62) 585.1641 500 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 585.1641 Then if you get him used to a command, 587.0059 501 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 587.0059 (pause 0.50) 587.5026 502 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 587.5026 you just get a dummy and put it in front him 588.9649 503 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 588.9649 (pause 0.18) 589.1435 504 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 589.1435 and say, attack! 589.9695 505 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 589.9695 (pause 0.95) 590.9239 506 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 590.9239 and constantly keep pushing that in his mind. 592.3932 507 DCA_int_01 592.3956 Mm-hm. 592.7210 508 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 592.7532 And he get what you mean. 593.8304 509 DCA_int_01 593.8471 Mm-hm. 594.3941 510 DCA_int_01 594.3941 (pause 0.60) 594.9969 511 DCA_int_01 594.9969 He gets so you go for the dummy. 596.1913 512 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 596.3810 Yeah. 596.7550 513 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 596.7550 (pause 1.43) 598.1838 514 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 598.1838 Although a lot of people had um, 599.5889 515 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 599.5889 (pause 0.20) 599.7842 516 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 599.7842 different ways of training their dogs. 601.3023 517 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 601.3023 (pause 0.96) 602.2623 518 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 602.2623 Like some of the guys 603.0381 519 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 603.0381 (pause 0.47) 603.5125 520 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 603.5125 what they did, they gave the dog gun powder. 605.3320 521 DCA_int_01 605.8299 Mm-hm. 606.2438 522 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 606.4753 Some of the guys beat the dogs 607.8589 523 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 607.8589 (pause 0.67) 608.5305 524 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 608.5305 to make 'em mean. 609.3658 525 DCA_int_01 609.4384 Hm. 609.7844 526 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 609.8179 And which, I think is wrong because it's cruelty to the animal, you know? 612.5137 527 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 612.5137 (pause 0.35) 612.8639 528 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 612.8639 And the dog don't know any better, 613.9690 529 DCA_int_01 614.0729 Mm-hm. 614.5060 530 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 614.7615 just to go on, by command. 616.1624 531 DCA_int_01 616.3912 Mm-hm. 616.8768 532 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 617.9317 But I [didn't have-] 618.4675 533 DCA_int_01 618.0879 [It's] much better your way. 619.2042 534 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 619.8070 Yeah, I never had beat him. 620.5926 535 DCA_int_01 621.3739 Hm. 621.5461 536 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 621.8818 Except for uh, my mother used to spank him, 623.7739 537 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 623.7739 (pause 0.73) 624.4994 538 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 624.4994 because he had a bad habit of pulling clothes off the line. 626.3189 539 DCA_int_01 626.6259 Uh oh. 628.0310 540 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 627.6961 [And whenever] he pull clothes off the line, he knew he did wrong 629.6551 541 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 629.7891 so the first thing he did was ran 631.1174 542 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 631.1174 (pause 0.22) 631.3351 543 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 631.3351 [] 631.9251 544 DCA_int_01 631.3351 [] 632.2113 545 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 632.1979 because he knew she was gonna get next to him. 633.7406 546 DCA_int_01 633.9025 Mm-hm. 634.3769 547 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 634.3490 Except for one day she caught /unintelligible/ you know, and she put his head between her legs and spanked him. 637.8191 548 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 638.5837 And after that 639.3149 549 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 639.3149 (pause 0.27) 639.5828 550 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 639.5828 he didn't do it no more. 640.2637 551 DCA_int_01 640.5037 Hm. 640.7548 552 DCA_int_01 640.7548 (pause 0.30) 641.0562 553 DCA_int_01 641.0562 That was enough. 641.6702 554 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 641.6911 642.1767 555 DCA_int_01 642.8454 Yeah, that's great. 643.6147 556 DCA_int_01 643.6147 (pause 0.64) 644.2585 557 DCA_int_01 644.2585 We had a dog, but it couldn't do all that stuff. 646.3012 558 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 646.2510 646.8873 559 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 647.2054 You gotta really spend time with 'em, 648.2882 560 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 648.2882 (pause 0.26) 648.5505 561 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 648.5505 all your time. 649.1532 562 DCA_int_01 649.3879 Mm-hm. 649.6822 563 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 649.6374 And you have to really show the dog that you really love him you know, 651.4458 564 DCA_int_01 651.6100 Oh yeah. 652.1780 565 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 652.1992 and after that dog realize that, that dog will do anything for you. 654.4422 566 DCA_int_01 657.1373 Next dog I get, I'll- 658.5549 567 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 658.8507 Pardon me? 659.2526 568 DCA_int_01 659.3084 next dog I get, I'll try to work with like that. 662.1771 569 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 662.4115 [Yeah.] 662.7408 570 DCA_int_01 662.4562 [Cause] then you have a valuable animal, then your- 664.3189 571 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 664.3245 Yeah, and you have an animal that will take care of you. 666.2501 572 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 666.2501 (pause 0.44) 666.6854 573 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 666.6854 Because um, I have a dog right now. 668.6444 574 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 668.6444 (pause 0.16) 668.8063 575 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 668.8063 It's a German Shepard, 669.7216 576 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 669.7216 (pause 0.65) 670.3690 577 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 670.3690 but due to the fact I'm living in an apartment, my cousin have to keep him. 672.5911 578 DCA_int_01 672.8959 Oh. 673.2811 579 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 673.9006 And then at the time, I don't know, 675.0782 580 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 675.0782 (pause 0.19) 675.2680 581 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 675.2680 I think /Wesley/ have seen my dog. 676.4624 582 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 676.4624 (pause 1.08) 677.5382 583 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 677.5382 because um 678.2526 584 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 678.2526 (pause 0.16) 678.4144 585 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 678.4144 what happened, I brought her down here to the office. 680.0553 586 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 680.0553 (pause 0.59) 680.6413 587 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 680.6413 She's okay, 681.4283 588 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 681.4283 (pause 0.38) 681.8078 589 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 681.8078 you can come up to her and pet her, 682.9730 590 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 682.9730 (pause 0.54) 683.5157 591 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 683.5157 talk to her, play with her 684.5594 592 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 684.5594 (pause 0.77) 685.3338 593 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 685.3338 but when we in the apartment, 686.3217 594 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 686.3217 (pause 0.81) 687.1365 595 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 687.1365 you can go in the kitchen, 688.1635 596 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 688.1635 (pause 0.40) 688.5653 597 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 688.5653 you can walk around the living room, 689.7262 598 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 689.7262 (pause 0.40) 690.1225 599 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 690.1225 but don't go near the bedroom 690.9820 600 DCA_int_01 691.7509 Mm, yeah. 692.3871 601 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 692.6215 cause she will get you, know? 693.7266 602 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 693.7266 (pause 0.61) 694.3350 603 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 694.3350 And then don't touch the baby, don't touch the baby, or my wife 696.7014 604 DCA_int_01 697.2394 [Mm-hm.] 697.6963 605 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 697.4214 [at all.] Only way you can touch the baby if we give you the baby. 700.3558 606 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 700.9585 Then you can't rock the baby, nothing like that 702.5436 607 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 702.5436 (pause 0.29) 702.8338 608 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 702.8338 cause, so she'll attack you. 703.8161 609 DCA_int_01 704.1064 Hm. 704.4189 610 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 704.8319 And then if I have her in a car 706.2942 611 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 706.2942 (pause 0.18) 706.4770 612 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 706.4770 with me, 706.8956 613 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 706.8956 (pause 0.40) 707.2975 614 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 707.2975 don't come near the car at all. 708.5365 615 DCA_int_01 708.8075 Mm-hm. 709.1261 616 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 709.0500 I have to get out the car and come and see you. 710.3727 617 DCA_int_01 710.8639 Hm. 711.2211 618 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 712.1643 And so, I mean, she's pretty well trained, you know. 714.3061 619 DCA_int_01 714.5238 Did you work with her yourself? Or did your [cousin teach her?] 716.8009 620 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 716.2149 [Yeah. I work] with her mostly. 717.7274 621 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 718.2130 And then, now my cousin have her, he working with her now 720.1664 622 DCA_int_01 720.3516 Mm yeah. 720.7488 623 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 720.8348 because uh, she was getting to be a little too vicious 723.0896 624 DCA_int_01 723.2738 Mm. 723.5919 625 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 724.0998 towards everyone, you know. 724.9705 626 DCA_int_01 725.1984 Mm-hm. 725.5237 627 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 725.9863 And then when we go different places no one now 727.9663 628 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 727.9663 (pause 0.17) 728.1337 629 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 728.1337 allowed to walk close to us at all, 729.7188 630 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 729.7188 (pause 0.56) 730.2769 631 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 730.2769 which is very bad for her. 731.6236 632 DCA_int_01 733.1686 Yeah. 733.4406 633 DCA_int_01 733.4406 (pause 1.56) 735.0028 634 DCA_int_01 735.0028 Yeah, I guess they can go too far too maybe. 737.3191 635 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 737.6818 Yeah. 738.0837 636 DCA_int_01 739.5404 What did you study when you were in elementary school? 741.6892 637 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 742.7259 Well when I was in elementary school 744.0152 638 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 744.0152 (pause 0.25) 744.2608 639 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 744.2608 I had a lot of math when I was in class, 746.1919 640 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 746.1919 (pause 0.35) 746.5379 641 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 746.5379 which, that's one of the things I major in 748.3853 642 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 748.3853 (pause 0.87) 749.2560 643 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 749.2560 was Math, 749.7567 644 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 749.7567 (pause 0.33) 750.0862 645 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 750.0862 Art, 750.6220 646 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 750.6220 (pause 0.66) 751.2862 647 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 751.2862 then English, 752.0006 648 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 752.0006 (pause 0.17) 752.1736 649 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 752.1736 Grammar, 752.5866 650 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 752.5866 (pause 0.71) 753.2954 651 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 753.2954 you know. 753.6805 652 DCA_int_01 753.8632 Mm-hm. 754.2072 653 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 754.1270 And then we had a lot of History. 755.3995 654 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 756.9051 The basic things that you really study in school, you know. 759.0651 655 DCA_int_01 759.1855 Mm-hm. 759.5721 656 DCA_int_01 759.5721 (pause 0.49) 760.0641 657 DCA_int_01 760.0641 What about high school? 761.4203 658 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 761.8389 Senior High or Junior High? 762.9942 659 DCA_int_01 763.2119 Senior High. 763.8468 660 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 764.1761 Well Senior High, I had mostly business subjects 765.9900 661 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 765.9900 (pause 0.75) 766.7379 662 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 766.7379 cause, you know, mostly office work. 768.3341 663 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 768.3341 (pause 0.87) 769.1992 664 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 769.1992 And then I had a little typing, 770.5652 665 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 770.5652 (pause 0.63) 771.1959 666 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 771.1959 then I had you know, a little bit of everything. 772.9205 667 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 772.9205 (pause 0.51) 773.4340 668 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 773.4340 And then I had mostly uh, Art, because uh they let you sign up for some of your classes at the school I was attending [at the] time. 778.6009 669 DCA_int_01 777.9109 [Mm-hm.] 778.1603 670 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 779.4213 And so the classes I picked was Math. 781.1961 671 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 781.1961 (pause 0.30) 781.4975 672 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 781.4975 /Now when I went/ to Trigonometry. 782.9040 673 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 782.9040 (pause 0.59) 783.4900 674 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 783.4900 You know, just got a touch of that, 784.7068 675 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 784.7068 (pause 1.17) 785.8719 676 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 785.8719 and then I had Commercial Art and Interior Decorating. 788.1881 677 DCA_int_01 788.5452 Hm. 788.7462 678 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 789.0885 Then time I was in there, cause those was the main things I was interested in. 791.5815 679 DCA_int_01 791.6708 Mm-hm. 792.2289 680 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 792.4061 And then one of the things that you take in high school whether you want to take it or not, 795.1019 681 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 795.1019 (pause 0.15) 795.2526 682 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 795.2526 is Cadet. 795.7884 683 DCA_int_01 796.2572 Oh yeah. 796.8488 684 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 796.8934 Yeah, they get you ready for military service you know, which is good. 799.5166 685 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 799.5166 (pause 0.42) 799.9394 686 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 799.9394 So some of the guys I know, something what it's like, 802.0157 687 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 802.0157 (pause 0.79) 802.8082 688 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 802.8082 but yet still it's a little rougher when you get in there. 804.4714 689 DCA_int_01 804.5719 Yeah. 804.9681 690 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 804.9737 You know? 805.3253 691 DCA_int_01 805.3644 I'm sure it is. 806.0380 692 DCA_int_01 806.0380 (pause 0.27) 806.3069 693 DCA_int_01 806.3069 Have you ever been in? 807.2718 694 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 807.6123 No. 807.9918 695 DCA_int_01 809.2141 Neither have I. 810.0513 696 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 810.0122 810.8103 697 DCA_int_01 811.6363 What did the kids after school was out 813.6833 698 DCA_int_01 813.6833 (pause 0.32) 814.0070 699 DCA_int_01 814.0070 in elementary school? 815.2349 700 DCA_int_01 815.2349 (pause 0.11) 815.3465 701 DCA_int_01 815.3465 Say in junior high? 816.5632 702 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 817.1381 Uh, elementary and junior high? 818.3213 703 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 818.3213 (pause 0.63) 818.9464 704 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 818.9464 Well 819.4096 705 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 819.4096 (pause 0.64) 820.0459 706 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 820.0459 what I did /when ??/ s- /??/ elementary, 822.2156 707 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 822.2156 (pause 0.56) 822.7793 708 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 822.7793 I'm'a speak for myself I can't [speak for anyone else.] 824.8878 709 DCA_int_01 824.3086 [/That's all you can do/] 825.6846 710 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 826.1169 But what we used to do, once we got out of school 828.0076 711 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 828.0076 (pause 0.15) 828.1583 712 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 828.1583 we'd go down to the playground, play for awhile you know. 830.0782 713 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 830.0782 (pause 0.64) 830.7145 714 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 830.7145 And then someone always had a record player or something, you know, 832.8744 715 DCA_int_01 833.1227 Mm-hm. 833.4920 716 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 833.4639 and we used to dance, 834.4494 717 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 835.1446 and then I had a certain hour I had to be in the house, 837.2711 718 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 837.2711 (pause 0.36) 837.6283 719 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 837.6283 about eight o'clock in the evening. 839.4255 720 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 839.4255 (pause 0.18) 839.6041 721 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 839.6041 And then /behind that/ I had to do my homework, and then to bed. 841.6300 722 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 841.6300 (pause 0.39) 842.0152 723 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 842.0152 That's elementary, and then when I got to junior high school, 843.8723 724 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 843.8723 (pause 0.57) 844.4416 725 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 844.4416 mostly what I did was party 845.5690 726 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 845.5690 (pause 0.51) 846.0825 727 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 846.0825 [after school] 846.7857 728 DCA_int_01 846.0937 [Mm-hm.] 846.6295 729 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 847.2155 every day just [about.] 848.6220 730 DCA_int_01 848.0336 [] 848.8781 731 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 849.1466 I go partying and oh and then, if I didn't party, 851.5228 732 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 851.5228 (pause 0.61) 852.1368 733 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 852.1368 I had the dog, you know, with me, 853.6939 734 DCA_int_01 854.1256 Mm-hm. 854.4602 735 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 854.3656 something like that. 854.9776 736 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 855.8371 But other than that, 856.4957 737 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 856.4957 (pause 1.86) 858.3585 738 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 858.3585 nothing [else.] 858.8887 739 DCA_int_01 858.6208 [What] about high school? 859.5808 740 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 860.0887 High school, 860.6635 741 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 860.6635 (pause 0.17) 860.8310 742 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 860.8310 I was in uh 861.5286 743 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 861.5286 (pause 0.18) 861.7128 744 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 861.7128 during the whole time I was in high school, I work. 863.2859 745 DCA_int_01 863.6663 Oh. 864.1351 746 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 864.3346 You know, at Top's Drive-in? 865.5402 747 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 865.5402 (pause 0.47) 866.0090 748 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 866.0090 And, I didn't get off until about four in the morning. 867.9904 749 DCA_int_01 868.0406 Oh my gosh. 869.2852 750 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 869.3968 So I actually had enough time to get home, 871.1382 751 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 871.1382 (pause 0.22) 871.3600 752 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 871.3600 do my homework, 872.0912 753 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 872.0912 (pause 0.75) 872.8391 754 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 872.8391 get a couple hours of sleep, 873.8214 755 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 873.8214 (pause 0.17) 873.9888 756 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 873.9888 and get back to work. 874.6921 757 DCA_int_01 874.8986 Gee whiz, how'd you take it? [] 877.2929 758 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 876.5227 [] 877.3264 759 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 877.4269 I took it- 877.9850 760 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 877.9850 (pause 0.21) 878.1957 761 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 878.1957 I took it up until about 879.1707 762 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 879.1707 (pause 0.10) 879.2661 763 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 879.2661 a half in the semester in the twelfth grade. 880.9975 764 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 880.9975 (pause 0.67) 881.6672 765 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 881.6672 Then I had to cut it lose. 882.6216 766 DCA_int_01 882.7946 Mm-mm. Geez, a wonder you lasted that long. 885.1723 767 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 885.1499 885.6690 768 DCA_int_01 885.7737 When did you go to work? 886.7894 769 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 887.0964 I started working soon as I went into the tenth grade. 888.8378 770 DCA_int_01 889.5131 I mean when, what time of the day? 891.2042 771 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 891.5837 Oh, I was supposed to be there at 893.6084 772 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 893.6084 (pause 0.57) 894.1771 773 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 894.1771 four o'clock, but was no way, excuse me, 895.7627 774 DCA_int_01 895.9036 Mm-hm. 896.2449 775 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 896.2204 was one- no way possible for me to make it, 897.9394 776 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 898.3915 cause I was work- going to uh /RD-SCHOOL-4/, which is over on Seventeenth and East Capital Street, 902.3193 777 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 902.3193 (pause 0.73) 903.0504 778 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 903.0504 and then I had to go out all the way to Arlington, Virginia, 905.1378 779 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 905.1378 (pause 0.37) 905.5062 780 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 905.5062 Fortieth and /Oakley/ Road, 906.6615 781 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 906.6615 (pause 0.61) 907.2741 782 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 907.2741 and so they let me come in at five, you know. 909.1494 783 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 909.1494 (pause 0.74) 909.8917 784 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 909.8917 And so I just worked a little later 911.2479 785 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 911.2479 (pause 0.52) 911.7670 786 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 911.7670 [than usual.] 912.4256 787 DCA_int_01 911.8395 [You worked] from five til four the next morning? 913.8320 788 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 913.8990 Yeah. 914.1446 789 DCA_int_01 914.1390 Every day? 914.8409 790 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 914.9637 Yes. 915.2929 791 DCA_int_01 915.8980 Oh. 916.0050 792 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 917.1124 917.5310 793 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 917.5310 (pause 0.47) 917.9999 794 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 917.9999 Well see, it's something I wanted to do because um, 920.6621 795 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 920.6621 (pause 0.67) 921.3276 796 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 921.3276 for the clothes that I like, my father refused to pay the money for 924.0597 797 DCA_int_01 924.1263 Mm-hm. 924.5514 798 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 924.6346 because at the time I was in high school, I liked forty dollar shoes, fifty dollar shoes. 928.2495 799 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 928.2495 (pause 0.48) 928.7298 800 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 928.7298 And my father said that was too much to pay for shoes, 930.7335 801 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 930.7335 (pause 0.85) 931.5874 802 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 931.5874 and so I 932.3130 803 DCA_int_01 932.3728 [/inaudible/] 933.0177 804 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 932.5976 ]decided to] do- 933.2786 805 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 933.5186 I just decided to do one thing- work for my money, 935.3771 806 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 935.3771 (pause 0.23) 935.6059 807 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 935.6059 my clothes, you know. 936.4766 808 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 936.4766 (pause 0.46) 936.9385 809 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 936.9385 And that's what I did. 937.6138 810 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 937.6138 (pause 0.60) 938.2110 811 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 938.2110 At least that way I was clean everyday when I went to school and had money in my pocket. 940.8007 812 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 940.8007 (pause 0.36) 941.1579 813 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 941.1579 941.5039 814 DCA_int_01 942.0095 Yeah, 942.3594 815 DCA_int_01 942.3594 (pause 0.27) 942.6313 816 DCA_int_01 942.6313 /inaudible/ 943.2588 817 DCA_int_01 943.2588 (pause 0.46) 943.7183 818 DCA_int_01 943.7183 That kind of shot your day after school. 945.1136 819 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 945.4876 946.1573 820 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 946.1573 (pause 0.49) 946.6429 821 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 946.6429 I didn't mind. 947.2233 822 DCA_int_01 947.4197 Yeah. 947.7696 823 DCA_int_01 947.7696 (pause 1.18) 948.9535 824 DCA_int_01 948.9535 Um 949.2717 825 DCA_int_01 949.2717 (pause 1.59) 950.8609 826 DCA_int_01 950.8609 was there ever a teacher anywhere, at any of the schools you went to that hollered a lot 954.5222 827 DCA_int_01 954.5222 (pause 0.93) 955.4487 828 DCA_int_01 955.4487 at kids? 956.2803 829 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 956.6208 Uh, yes there was. 957.7649 830 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 957.7649 (pause 0.57) 958.3384 831 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 958.3384 I had a Government teacher. 959.4937 832 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 959.4937 (pause 0.76) 960.2584 833 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 960.2584 She yelled a lot at the kids. 961.8379 834 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 961.8379 (pause 0.63) 962.4630 835 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 962.4630 But one thing I'm'a say for her, she was a very good teacher. 964.4945 836 DCA_int_01 964.8312 Oh yeah? 965.3581 837 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 965.5528 Cause when you go out that classroom, 967.0169 838 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 967.0169 (pause 0.39) 967.4086 839 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 967.4086 whether you want to or not, you learned something. 969.0500 840 DCA_int_01 969.1992 Mm-hm. 969.6841 841 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 969.7867 One way or other, you know? 970.7426 842 DCA_int_01 970.9618 Mm-hm. 971.4374 843 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 971.6554 But she was a very good teacher, she yelled a lot. 973.3200 844 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 973.3200 (pause 0.14) 973.4646 845 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 973.4646 And then when I was in elementary school, I had one teacher, 975.4370 846 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 975.4370 (pause 1.04) 976.4768 847 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 976.4768 and she was hateful. 977.5213 848 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 977.5213 (pause 0.37) 977.8885 849 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 977.8885 979.6884 850 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 979.6884 (pause 0.09) 979.7743 851 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 979.7743 That was in kindergarten, though. 981.0966 852 DCA_int_01 981.1526 Oh no. 981.7784 853 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 981.8054 And 982.0805 854 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 982.0805 (pause 0.14) 982.2250 855 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 982.2250 that's one teacher I do remember, her name, everything. 984.7931 856 DCA_int_01 984.9423 Hm. 985.1801 857 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 985.3620 I will never forget her because she spank my hands 987.2645 858 DCA_int_01 987.4278 987.8963 859 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 988.2670 a couple of times. And then if you raise your hand to go to the bathroom, she say, no. 991.1382 860 DCA_int_01 991.4226 Oh man. 992.2946 861 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 992.3692 And then if you do something in your clothes, then she'll spank you, know? 994.7799 862 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 994.7799 (pause 0.58) 995.3616 863 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 995.3616 Then send you home to your parents. 996.7325 864 DCA_int_01 996.9087 Hm, 997.2879 865 DCA_int_01 997.2879 (pause 0.27) 997.5567 866 DCA_int_01 997.5567 she kind of like and old witch. [] 999.7032 867 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 999.0873 [She really was.] 1000.1551 868 DCA_int_01 1001.8372 You think- 1002.3128 869 DCA_int_01 1002.3128 (pause 0.14) 1002.4481 870 DCA_int_01 1002.4481 do you think it was fair, 1003.5392 871 DCA_int_01 1003.5392 (pause 0.42) 1003.9635 872 DCA_int_01 1003.9635 what she punished the kids for? 1005.4137 873 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1005.7727 [No, it wasn't.] 1006.4162 874 DCA_int_01 1005.7914 [/inaudible/] 1006.4115 875 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1007.3022 No, it wasn't. She was just evil like that. It was a very old lady, you know? 1010.4951 876 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1010.4951 (pause 0.69) 1011.1852 877 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1011.1852 And what it is, now that I'm older, 1012.8312 878 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1012.8312 (pause 0.41) 1013.2462 879 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1013.2462 I think what it was was her patience. 1015.0636 880 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1015.0636 (pause 0.39) 1015.4553 881 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1015.4553 You know? 1015.9262 882 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1015.9262 (pause 0.86) 1016.7888 883 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1016.7888 I don't think she had much patience with the kids at all. 1018.8872 884 DCA_int_01 1020.2802 Used it up years ago. 1021.5718 885 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1021.8423 Oh, years ago. I thought she was the most hateful woman around. 1024.5701 886 DCA_int_01 1024.5701 1025.1856 887 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1025.1436 If I had a brick, she woulda got it. [] 1028.6350 888 DCA_int_01 1026.3641 [] 1027.7397 889 DCA_int_01 1031.6554 I guess if I were to ask you if you ever had a teacher you couldn't stand, she would be it? 1034.9800 890 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1035.7541 Yeah, she'd be the only one because all my other teachers I got along with them fine. 1039.0869 891 DCA_int_01 1039.3659 Mm. 1039.6493 892 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1039.8516 I never had any trouble with my teachers. 1041.2272 893 DCA_int_01 1042.9944 Did you- were you ever in a class where the kids played a trick on a teacher? A practical joke? 1047.1899 894 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1047.3904 Yes I was , 1048.6866 895 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1048.6866 (pause 0.49) 1049.1763 896 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1049.1763 several classes. 1050.0657 897 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1050.0657 (pause 0.04) 1050.1077 898 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1050.1077 [] 1051.4086 899 DCA_int_01 1050.1077 [] 1051.4086 900 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1052.2573 Well- 1052.6723 901 DCA_int_01 1052.4624 [/inaudible/ ask this question. 1053.4606 902 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1053.8660 well, in one of the classes, 1055.2509 903 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1055.2509 (pause 0.10) 1055.3488 904 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1055.3488 well, we had our thugs 1056.7651 905 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1056.7651 (pause 0.35) 1057.1149 906 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1057.1149 in the classroom. 1057.7583 907 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1057.7583 (pause 0.80) 1058.5604 908 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1058.5604 And they was kind of smart but they /were/ thugs, 1060.1504 909 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1060.1504 (pause 0.49) 1060.6400 910 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1060.6400 and what they used to do sometime, they um 1062.4714 911 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1062.4714 (pause 0.60) 1063.0729 912 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1063.0729 /I mean/ the cushion in the teacher's chair, in the morning, they got in there and took it apart 1065.8986 913 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1065.8986 (pause 0.37) 1066.2716 914 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1066.2716 and put tacks under there. 1067.3208 915 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1067.3208 (pause 1.30) 1068.6253 916 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1068.6253 And we had to stay out the class for a whole week behind that 1070.8821 917 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1070.8821 (pause 0.41) 1071.2922 918 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1071.2922 cause no one wouldn't tell, 1072.3885 919 DCA_int_01 1072.4548 Uh-huh. 1072.8881 920 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1073.1669 and then another time was- 1074.9796 921 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1074.9796 (pause 0.39) 1075.3667 922 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1075.3667 was someone brought some bees- 1076.6769 923 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1076.6769 (pause 0.13) 1076.8028 924 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1076.8028 /bumble/ bees in the room 1077.7261 925 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1077.7261 (pause 0.63) 1078.3602 926 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1078.3602 and let 'em loose. 1079.1483 927 DCA_int_01 1080.1869 [] 1081.2781 928 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1080.6532 [] 1081.6371 929 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1081.7350 And so the teachers got us about that. 1083.5349 930 DCA_int_01 1083.5489 Mm-hm. 1084.0805 931 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1084.6447 But other than that 1085.2882 932 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1085.2882 (pause 0.23) 1085.5202 933 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1085.5202 everything is pretty nice. 1086.6579 934 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1086.6579 (pause 0.51) 1087.1708 935 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1087.1708 And then we had 1087.8236 936 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1087.8236 (pause 0.18) 1088.0008 937 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1088.0008 a few teachers that, well 1089.1199 938 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1089.1199 (pause 0.19) 1089.3064 939 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1089.3064 one teacher that is particular 1090.6587 940 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1090.6587 (pause 0.83) 1091.4933 941 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1091.4933 that everyone was really crazy about. 1092.9144 942 DCA_int_01 1093.3154 Aw yeah? 1093.9589 943 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1094.0008 Yes. 1094.3459 944 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1094.3459 (pause 0.51) 1094.8541 945 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1094.8541 And that was one of my homeroom teachers, Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ 1096.9058 946 DCA_int_01 1097.1695 Mm-hm. 1097.6015 947 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1097.7440 who was at /RD-SHOOL-5/. 1099.2128 948 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1099.2128 (pause 1.07) 1100.2853 949 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1100.2853 because during the time she was there 1101.9313 950 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1101.9313 (pause 0.66) 1102.5934 951 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1102.5934 she did the things she had to do. 1104.1555 952 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1104.1555 (pause 0.24) 1104.3921 953 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1104.3921 And I think uh 1105.3247 954 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1105.3247 (pause 0.17) 1105.4972 955 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1105.4972 at our age that we realize that 1106.8774 956 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1106.8774 (pause 0.45) 1107.3297 957 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1107.3297 when we was bad 1108.1178 958 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1108.1178 (pause 0.31) 1108.4255 959 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1108.4255 she punish us. 1109.1949 960 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1109.1949 (pause 0.56) 1109.7591 961 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1109.7591 When we was good 1110.3500 962 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1110.3500 (pause 0.49) 1110.8398 963 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1110.8398 she reward us. 1111.6371 964 DCA_int_01 1112.0428 Mm-hm. 1112.3365 965 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1112.2946 You know? 1112.7049 966 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1113.1805 And the kids thought so much of her that um 1115.1763 967 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1115.1763 (pause 0.54) 1115.7171 968 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1115.7171 every time her birthday came, well she always got a 1117.3573 969 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1117.3573 (pause 0.16) 1117.5205 970 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1117.5205 surprise birthday party there at [school.] 1119.4370 971 DCA_int_01 1118.8728 [No kidding.] 1119.5116 972 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1119.9126 Yeah, and gifts. 1120.5887 973 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1120.5887 (pause 0.91) 1121.4968 974 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1121.4968 And right to this [day, now], I 1122.7642 975 DCA_int_01 1121.9321 [/inaudible/] 1122.5838 976 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1122.8957 see a lot of kids who I know who went to school with me. 1124.9707 977 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1124.9707 (pause 0.28) 1125.2458 978 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1125.2458 They go back and see her now. 1126.2437 979 DCA_int_01 1126.4266 Mm. 1126.5813 980 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1126.5813 I even go back there every now and then and see her. 1128.0436 981 DCA_int_01 1130.0008 She the best teacher you ever had? 1131.8147 982 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1132.0851 Um 1132.7519 983 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1132.7519 (pause 0.14) 1132.8907 984 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1132.8907 no, she's really no contest really. 1134.5740 985 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1134.5740 (pause 0.23) 1134.8071 986 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1134.8071 [] 1136.2106 987 DCA_int_01 1134.9554 [] 1136.1314 988 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1136.7609 Another one of my teachers who I think very highly of was uh, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ She's also at /RD-SCHOOL-1/, 1140.7791 989 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1140.7791 (pause 0.30) 1141.0822 990 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1141.0822 Junior High teacher. 1141.9169 991 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1141.9169 (pause 0.74) 1142.6536 992 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1142.6536 And uh, she was my English teacher. 1144.1084 993 DCA_int_01 1144.2684 Mm-hm. 1144.6550 994 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1144.9804 She taught me awful lot. I learned a lot from her. 1146.8071 995 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1146.8071 (pause 0.69) 1147.4926 996 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1147.4926 And then like if I did wrong on my paper or something like that, 1150.0385 997 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1150.0385 (pause 0.51) 1150.5468 998 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1150.5468 got disgusted, she always said to me, 1152.2674 999 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1152.2674 (pause 0.32) 1152.5833 1000 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1152.5833 try at first and don't succeed, try try again, which is something that I never forgot. 1155.6561 1001 DCA_int_01 1155.9967 Mm-hm. 1156.3391 1002 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1156.2204 And uh 1156.7752 1003 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1157.2369 I did what she said. 1157.9736 1004 DCA_int_01 1158.2056 Mm-hm. 1158.6439 1005 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1158.8537 And seeing like I'm beginning to succeed now, in life . 1161.4044 1006 DCA_int_01 1161.5479 /??/ 1161.8829 1007 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1161.9779 Things getting better for me instead of worse. 1163.8104 1008 DCA_int_01 1163.8149 Mm-hm. 1164.2082 1009 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1165.1289 And I really think highly of her for that. 1166.4904 1010 DCA_int_01 1166.7115 Mm-hm. 1167.1276 1011 DCA_int_01 1167.1276 (pause 0.73) 1167.8567 1012 DCA_int_01 1167.8567 What is there that makes a teacher good? 1169.9037 1013 DCA_int_01 1169.9037 (pause 0.53) 1170.4341 1014 DCA_int_01 1170.4341 Or another teacher might be poor? 1172.7702 1015 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1173.1899 Well one of things is the personality of the teacher. 1175.3721 1016 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1175.3721 (pause 0.19) 1175.5633 1017 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1175.5633 The teacher getting with the students, 1177.0309 1018 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1177.0309 (pause 0.58) 1177.6138 1019 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1177.6138 you know? 1178.0568 1020 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1178.0568 (pause 0.51) 1178.5650 1021 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1178.5650 Getting interested in what some of the students are interested in, you know, and 1181.4187 1022 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1181.4187 (pause 0.77) 1182.1869 1023 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1182.1869 you know, really putting theirself out with 'em, you know? 1184.4298 1024 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1184.4298 (pause 0.48) 1184.9147 1025 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1184.9147 Instead uh, you walk in the classroom, like one of my teachers told me, 1188.0389 1026 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1188.0389 (pause 0.53) 1188.5646 1027 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1188.5646 say um, 1189.0869 1028 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1189.0869 (pause 0.94) 1190.0288 1029 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1190.0288 you- I got my diploma, you have to get yours. 1192.1970 1030 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1192.1970 (pause 1.13) 1193.3290 1031 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1193.3290 The one who wrote the book gotta A, the one who teach the book get the B, and you can't get no higher than a C. 1197.0033 1032 DCA_int_01 1197.6129 Shoot. 1199.3848 1033 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1199.4128 [I have had several teachers that tell me that.] 1200.8676 1034 DCA_int_01 1199.4408 [] 1200.8303 1035 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1201.2733 And of one 'em wasn't kidding. 1202.3131 1036 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1202.3131 (pause 0.23) 1202.5463 1037 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1202.5463 The highest grade was in his classroom 1204.1725 1038 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1204.1725 (pause 0.30) 1204.4709 1039 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1204.4709 was a D plus. 1205.4035 1040 DCA_int_01 1205.7998 Uh. 1206.2148 1041 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1206.2708 I got a D minus, and I was grateful for that, 1208.6022 1042 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1208.6022 (pause 0.62) 1209.2271 1043 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1209.2271 you know? 1209.6048 1044 DCA_int_01 1209.7136 Gee whiz. 1210.6156 1045 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1211.6926 And so um, 1212.6485 1046 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1212.6485 (pause 0.83) 1213.4785 1047 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1213.4785 I mean the teachers, 1214.3038 1048 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1214.3038 (pause 1.08) 1215.3845 1049 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1215.3845 some of 'em, I say this, uh, for 'em: 1216.9792 1050 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1216.9792 (pause 0.91) 1217.8931 1051 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1217.8931 they really feel like they doing the right thing you know? 1220.2898 1052 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1220.2898 (pause 0.48) 1220.7701 1053 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1220.7701 But some of 'em really have to be cruel towards some of the students 1223.3475 1054 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1223.3475 (pause 0.19) 1223.5387 1055 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1223.5387 cause some of the students are cruel towards the teachers. 1225.6090 1056 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1225.6090 (pause 0.88) 1226.4903 1057 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1226.4903 And then again, I'm not too sure about that. 1228.3217 1058 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1228.3217 (pause 0.21) 1228.5315 1059 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1228.5315 [] 1229.5387 1060 DCA_int_01 1228.5315 [] 1229.5434 1061 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1229.6087 But it's a /for reason/, 1230.4573 1062 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1230.4573 (pause 0.31) 1230.7651 1063 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1230.7651 like I told you, the two teachers who I was speaking of, 1232.6862 1064 DCA_int_01 1232.9087 Mm-hm. 1233.2980 1065 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1233.4229 okay they had the same type of students that some of the other teachers had. 1236.0376 1066 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1236.0376 (pause 0.34) 1236.3780 1067 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1236.3780 I mean guys who was really bad, 1237.8142 1068 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1237.8142 (pause 0.40) 1238.2152 1069 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1238.2152 who wouldn't listen. 1238.9986 1070 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1238.9986 (pause 0.71) 1239.7062 1071 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1239.7062 But yet still, 1240.5036 1072 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1240.5036 (pause 0.52) 1241.0211 1073 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1241.0211 those guys respected them 1242.1123 1074 DCA_int_01 1242.2708 Mm-hm. 1242.7604 1075 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1242.7324 very highly, 1243.3199 1076 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1243.8282 and didn't give them the trouble that uh 1245.2457 1077 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1245.2457 (pause 0.77) 1246.0186 1078 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1246.0186 they gave other teachers. 1247.0025 1079 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1247.0025 (pause 0.82) 1247.8232 1080 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1247.8232 And so I really think it r- 1248.9236 1081 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1248.9236 (pause 0.23) 1249.1521 1082 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1249.1521 falls on their personality. 1250.4950 1083 DCA_int_01 1250.6209 Mm-hm. 1251.1665 1084 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1251.1478 And then the high interest in the student is in the work 1253.1517 1085 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1253.7625 because some of the teachers can sit in there and preach the whole book to you and everything else, 1257.1711 1086 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1257.1711 (pause 0.36) 1257.5290 1087 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1257.5290 and it be boring as I don't know what. 1258.6854 1088 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1258.6854 (pause 0.37) 1259.0538 1089 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1259.0538 Next thing you know, everyone going to sleep, you know, 1260.7884 1090 DCA_int_01 1260.9656 Mm-hm. 1261.5251 1091 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1261.6137 and then if you say something to 'em, well, they feel 1263.6934 1092 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1263.6934 (pause 0.99) 1264.6807 1093 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1264.6807 like uh you're against them, 1265.6973 1094 DCA_int_01 1265.9460 [Mm-hm.] 1266.2516 1095 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1266.1076 [you] know? 1266.5086 1096 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1267.4039 Because I felt that way myself, 1268.7281 1097 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1268.7281 (pause 0.15) 1268.8809 1098 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1268.8809 know, several times against some teachers. 1270.5129 1099 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1270.5129 (pause 0.95) 1271.4594 1100 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1271.4594 And so, 1272.0889 1101 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1272.0889 (pause 0.35) 1272.4340 1102 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1272.4340 I think one of the good qualities is their personality, 1274.6773 1103 DCA_int_01 1274.8715 Yeah. 1275.1886 1104 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1275.4777 that carry a long way. 1276.6341 1105 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1276.6341 (pause 0.39) 1277.0258 1106 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1277.0258 And regardless of the race or 1278.8630 1107 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1278.8630 (pause 0.49) 1279.3572 1108 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1279.3572 how poor a child is or 1280.7981 1109 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1280.7981 (pause 0.41) 1281.2131 1110 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1281.2131 how the child is dressed when they come to school, 1282.7414 1111 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1282.7414 (pause 0.83) 1283.5714 1112 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1283.5714 if you go ahead and try to be nice to that child and try to help that child 1286.3924 1113 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1286.3924 (pause 0.53) 1286.9240 1114 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1286.9240 they will love you, know? 1287.6980 1115 DCA_int_01 1287.7596 /inaudible/ 1288.1535 1116 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1288.6108 And they will learn something and try to do better. 1290.2521 1117 DCA_int_01 1292.0287 Well I'm sure that's true. 1293.1431 1118 DCA_int_01 1293.1431 (pause 1.21) 1294.3497 1119 DCA_int_01 1294.3497 Do you watch TV very much? 1295.7392 1120 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1296.9329 I used to watch TV uh pretty often, but here lately I don't even have the chance really to watch it, you know? 1301.9491 1121 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1301.9491 (pause 0.60) 1302.5459 1122 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1302.5459 Since my wife, you know, she works over time 1304.4530 1123 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1304.4530 (pause 0.55) 1305.0033 1124 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1305.0033 at night and I have the baby. 1306.7320 1125 DCA_int_01 1306.9186 Yeah. 1307.4455 1126 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1307.5294 And so you know how much uh time [I have for TV now.] 1309.9486 1127 DCA_int_01 1308.8443 [] 1309.8935 1128 DCA_int_01 1310.5685 I don't know now, but I'm gonna find out. 1312.3170 1129 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1312.4056 1313.9351 1130 DCA_int_01 1314.4153 [My wife's] expecting 1315.6883 1131 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1314.5226 [But] 1314.7278 1132 DCA_int_01 1315.8888 [in the fall] 1316.6022 1133 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1315.8981 [the programs I] 1316.6302 1134 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1316.7515 do like to look at on TV comes on 1318.2704 1135 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1318.2704 (pause 0.27) 1318.5362 1136 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1318.5362 late at night, you know? 1319.4921 1137 DCA_int_01 1319.5451 Mm-hm. 1319.8912 1138 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1320.4153 And like, earlier programs I like to look at is like, My Favorite Martian, something that's fiction. 1324.5315 1139 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1324.5315 (pause 0.84) 1325.3709 1140 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1325.3709 And 1325.7672 1141 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1325.7672 (pause 0.21) 1325.9817 1142 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1325.9817 the reason why I do like to look at that and McHale's Navy is because nothing else is on. 1329.1012 1143 DCA_int_01 1329.4684 Mm-hm. 1329.7855 1144 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1329.7855 You know? 1330.3077 1145 DCA_int_01 1330.3677 Right. 1330.7911 1146 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1330.8999 But later on in the evening, it's like uh, It Takes a Thief. 1333.2593 1147 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1333.2593 (pause 0.64) 1333.9028 1148 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1333.9028 I enjoy that very much. 1334.9893 1149 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1334.9893 (pause 0.14) 1335.1338 1150 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1335.1338 Now, it's a new program just came on, 1336.5315 1151 DCA_int_01 1336.6331 Mm-hm. 1336.9645 1152 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1336.9792 because uh actually, if you really look at it, 1339.3013 1153 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1339.3013 (pause 0.76) 1340.0567 1154 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1340.0567 it gives you a education 1341.0872 1155 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1341.0872 (pause 0.98) 1342.0652 1156 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1342.0652 on how some thieves might operate, 1344.0703 1157 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1344.0703 (pause 0.34) 1344.4107 1158 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1344.4107 pick pockets, and then that way, you know how to keep on the lookout 1346.7934 1159 DCA_int_01 1347.0406 Mm-hm. 1347.5675 1160 DCA_int_01 1347.5675 (pause 0.005) 1347.5721 1161 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1347.5861 for yourself you [know?] 1348.4429 1162 DCA_int_01 1348.2905 [Yeah.] 1348.5482 1163 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1348.7414 When people bump into you or something, 1350.2288 1164 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1350.2288 (pause 0.82) 1351.0495 1165 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1351.0495 and you- it's hard to believe some of the things that uh 1353.3716 1166 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1353.3716 (pause 0.50) 1353.8694 1167 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1353.8694 the guy do in the picture. 1354.9792 1168 DCA_int_01 1355.4082 [Is that] an adventure story? 1356.5319 1169 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1355.6973 Yeah. 1355.9397 1170 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1357.0262 Yes it is, but it's uh 1358.4017 1171 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1358.4017 (pause 0.35) 1358.7561 1172 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1358.7561 mostly, it's a lot of fiction in it 1360.1025 1173 DCA_int_01 1360.2617 Mm-hm. 1360.6152 1174 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1360.6621 because uh, 1361.3662 1175 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1361.3662 (pause 0.22) 1361.5853 1176 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1361.5853 I feel it's fiction because um 1363.2826 1177 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1363.2826 (pause 0.67) 1363.9494 1178 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1363.9494 it's impossible for some people to do some of the things that he do and get away with it, you know? 1367.5993 1179 DCA_int_01 1368.0889 Do you remember a story on that show that you could tell me? 1370.7814 1180 DCA_int_01 1370.7814 (pause 0.89) 1371.6689 1181 DCA_int_01 1371.6689 Uh, that impressed you? You know, one episode? 1373.9304 1182 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1374.3920 That impressed me? 1375.1754 1183 DCA_int_01 1375.2920 Yeah, well that you remember. 1376.7981 1184 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1377.2446 Ah, let me see now. 1378.1818 1185 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1378.1818 (pause 2.08) 1380.2615 1186 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1380.2615 Oh, I'm getting old and feeble-minded now, you know. 1381.9541 1187 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1381.9541 (pause 0.09) 1382.0474 1188 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1382.0474 [Very forgetful.] 1385.2543 1189 DCA_int_01 1382.7608 [] 1383.6747 1190 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1385.6833 Well, let's see, he was on uh Monday night. 1387.4925 1191 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1387.4925 (pause 0.77) 1388.2665 1192 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1388.2665 It was a program on, 1389.2912 1193 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1389.2912 (pause 0.51) 1389.8041 1194 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1389.8041 oh, it was one program where he was supposed to have stolen, 1392.9189 1195 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1392.9189 (pause 0.64) 1393.5624 1196 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1393.5624 s- get some film, 1394.7002 1197 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1394.7002 (pause 0.51) 1395.2119 1198 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1395.2119 some micro film, 1396.1165 1199 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1396.1165 (pause 0.46) 1396.5782 1200 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1396.5782 of some secret information of the United States. 1398.9935 1201 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1398.9935 (pause 0.95) 1399.9401 1202 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1399.9401 And, the part that really impressed me 1401.7866 1203 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1401.7866 (pause 0.36) 1402.1492 1204 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1402.1492 was how 1402.7833 1205 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1402.7833 (pause 1.04) 1403.8278 1206 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1403.8278 he was able to um 1404.8863 1207 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1404.8863 (pause 0.54) 1405.4225 1208 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1405.4225 get the film from the guy without the knowledge of the guy g- knowing. 1408.4056 1209 DCA_int_01 1408.7740 Hm. 1409.0398 1210 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1409.2729 You know, and then the other thing he had a briefcase on his arm, that hooks on. 1413.1944 1211 DCA_int_01 1413.3748 Mm-hm. 1413.7495 1212 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1413.6549 He was able to get the briefcase off the guy's arm with a key, 1416.3128 1213 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1417.0961 and the guy never knew the difference. 1418.3831 1214 DCA_int_01 1418.4326 Sheesh. 1418.7806 1215 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1419.2912 Now all this happened in about 1420.3823 1216 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1420.3823 (pause 1.07) 1421.4548 1217 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1421.4548 fifteen seconds, you know, on a aeroplane. 1424.2712 1218 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1424.2712 (pause 0.37) 1424.6395 1219 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1424.6395 1425.0499 1220 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1425.0499 (pause 0.68) 1425.7295 1221 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1425.7295 And so I mean, you know, I really feel that it's impossible 1428.3687 1222 DCA_int_01 1428.7091 Yeah. 1428.9329 1223 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1429.3013 because I know for myself if someone touched my 1431.5208 1224 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1431.5208 (pause 0.89) 1432.4103 1225 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1432.4103 uh wrist, you know, and I possessed something locked on there that's very valuable to me, 1435.4971 1226 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1435.4971 (pause 0.73) 1436.2245 1227 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1436.2245 they not gonna get it off without me knowing . 1438.5409 1228 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1438.5409 (pause 0.60) 1439.1377 1229 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1439.1377 And so that's why I think r- 1440.4620 1230 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1440.4620 (pause 0.30) 1440.7604 1231 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1440.7604 really amazes me, you know, 1441.9681 1232 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1441.9681 (pause 0.42) 1442.3877 1233 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1442.3877 and 1442.7235 1234 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1442.7235 (pause 0.17) 1442.8960 1235 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1442.8960 could it be true. 1443.5675 1236 DCA_int_01 1443.8601 Yeah. 1444.2984 1237 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1444.3963 Cause really nowadays you can't say nothing that's impossible. 1446.8257 1238 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1446.8257 (pause 0.17) 1446.9935 1239 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1446.9935 1447.6463 1240 DCA_int_01 1447.6417 Yeah. 1448.1173 1241 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1448.3225 You know? 1448.7002 1242 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1448.7002 (pause 1.55) 1450.2471 1243 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1450.2471 Then one of the other programs that I like to watch is Bonanza, which is a western, 1453.8002 1244 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1453.8002 (pause 0.90) 1454.6990 1245 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1454.6990 you know. 1455.1840 1246 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1455.1840 (pause 0.62) 1455.8041 1247 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1455.8041 And um 1456.3030 1248 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1456.3030 (pause 2.01) 1458.3081 1249 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1458.3081 I forgot some of the other programs. 1459.7604 1250 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1459.7604 (pause 0.52) 1460.2852 1251 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1460.2852 Really to tell the truth 1461.3297 1252 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1461.3297 (pause 0.36) 1461.6875 1253 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1461.6875 if someone walk up to me now and say uh, what day and what channel do so and so pro- come on- 1465.8002 1254 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1465.8002 (pause 0.22) 1466.0194 1255 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1466.0194 program come on? It could be something I watch. 1467.5721 1256 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1467.5721 (pause 0.52) 1468.0932 1257 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1468.0932 I really couldn't tell 'em 1468.9465 1258 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1468.9465 (pause 0.59) 1469.5341 1259 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1469.5341 because what it is, I just catch 'em, you know, 1471.5578 1260 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1471.5578 (pause 0.43) 1471.9914 1261 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1471.9914 as they come on every now and then. 1473.3716 1262 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1473.3716 (pause 1.04) 1474.4103 1263 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1474.4103 And then I Spy, I like that very much. 1476.4130 1264 DCA_int_01 1476.3578 Mm-hm. 1476.6266 1265 DCA_int_01 1477.7256 Mm. Okay. 1478.4344 1266 DCA_int_01 1478.4344 (pause 1.75) 1480.1822 1267 DCA_int_01 1480.1822 No thanks. 1480.6903 1268 DCA_int_01 1480.6903 (pause 2.72) 1483.4132 1269 DCA_int_01 1483.4132 Can you remember a 1484.1919 1270 DCA_int_01 1484.1919 (pause 0.34) 1484.5323 1271 DCA_int_01 1484.5323 episode of I Spy? 1485.8053 1272 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1486.2378 Oh yeah. 1486.6668 1273 DCA_int_01 1486.7833 See, what we're trying to get is a story line that interests peoples. 1489.6370 1274 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1489.8515 Yeah, this is one thing that interested me, uh, in I Spy, 1492.7367 1275 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1492.7367 (pause 1.00) 1493.7392 1276 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1493.7392 /where/ was this uh, one of the spies is Negro, the other is white. 1497.2597 1277 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1497.2597 (pause 0.90) 1498.1585 1278 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1498.1585 And so the Negro s- spy, had a daughter, 1500.3407 1279 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1500.3407 (pause 0.96) 1501.3013 1280 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1501.3013 which was a overseas daughter that he sent money and care too, and he went to see her, 1505.0351 1281 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1505.0351 (pause 0.86) 1505.8978 1282 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1505.8978 which really surprised him. You know they were both as surprised to see each other, one was white and one was Negro. 1510.5036 1283 DCA_int_01 1510.7758 Hm. 1510.9894 1284 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1511.5667 And so uh 1512.4993 1285 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1512.4993 (pause 0.42) 1512.9189 1286 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1512.9189 the way that the uh, 1513.9681 1287 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1513.9681 (pause 0.74) 1514.7095 1288 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1514.7095 the writer of the program wrote that, I think was very nice and very neat. 1517.8651 1289 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1517.8651 (pause 0.54) 1518.4060 1290 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1518.4060 How she really love him, and he really love her, 1520.9333 1291 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1520.9333 (pause 0.43) 1521.3658 1292 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1521.3658 and they seem to be very close just from mail, 1523.5154 1293 DCA_int_01 1523.9685 Mm-hm. 1524.3245 1294 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1524.2568 you know? 1524.5832 1295 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1525.2966 And I mean 1525.8888 1296 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1525.8888 (pause 0.16) 1526.0520 1297 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1526.0520 that part of it, I don't think is fiction at all because that's something that could be true. 1529.7439 1298 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1529.7439 (pause 0.92) 1530.6625 1299 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1530.6625 You know it shows that a relationship between races can exist right now, 1534.6388 1300 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1534.6388 (pause 0.35) 1534.9885 1301 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1534.9885 these days. 1535.6366 1302 DCA_int_01 1535.6452 Mm-hm. 1536.0345 1303 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1536.7324 But some people think it's impossible because someone's skin is different, 1539.9591 1304 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1539.9591 (pause 0.72) 1540.6761 1305 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1540.6761 but it's something wrong with them. 1541.8232 1306 DCA_int_01 1543.8574 Yes, that's a good one. 1545.2307 1307 DCA_int_01 1545.2307 (pause 1.53) 1546.7647 1308 DCA_int_01 1546.7647 Have you seen a movie recently? 1548.0143 1309 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1549.1801 The last movie I seen was The Graduate. 1551.1058 1310 DCA_int_01 1551.4637 Mm-hm. What was it about? 1552.9139 1311 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1553.0025 [] 1556.1266 1312 DCA_int_01 1554.0889 [You can leave out some parts. ] 1556.1266 1313 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1556.7281 Well it was about a lady they call Mrs. Roger, 1559.2636 1314 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1559.2636 (pause 0.56) 1559.8278 1315 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1559.8278 and who's uh, husband 1561.4598 1316 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1561.4598 (pause 0.15) 1561.6090 1317 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1561.6090 was a partner of this boy's father, and the boy was twenty years of age, 1565.0957 1318 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1565.0957 (pause 0.76) 1565.8605 1319 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1565.8605 who never knew the difference between a male and female. 1567.8888 1320 DCA_int_01 1568.2297 Hm-hm. 1568.8074 1321 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1569.0918 But yet still this lady, uh, she seduced the boy, 1571.6786 1322 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1571.6786 (pause 1.03) 1572.7091 1323 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1572.7091 and then come to find out that uh 1574.4624 1324 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1574.4624 (pause 0.61) 1575.0767 1325 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1575.0767 she have a daughter, 1576.0186 1326 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1576.0186 (pause 0.63) 1576.6528 1327 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1576.6528 and then the boy and the girl end up 1578.0936 1328 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1578.0936 (pause 0.25) 1578.3407 1329 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1578.3407 running off with each other really. 1579.6370 1330 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1579.6370 (pause 0.48) 1580.1173 1331 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1580.1173 Well actually before then she really messed the boy's life up, /and then/ 1582.7420 1332 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1582.7420 (pause 0.57) 1583.3102 1333 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1583.3102 The picture I think what the meaning of the picture was, to show 1585.8842 1334 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1585.8842 (pause 0.33) 1586.2106 1335 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1586.2106 how some adults really can have a great influence on a younger person 1589.1564 1336 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1589.1564 (pause 0.78) 1589.9397 1337 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1589.9397 because when she first started to influence the boy, the boy wasn't interested. 1593.4742 1338 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1593.4742 (pause 0.88) 1594.3497 1339 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1594.3497 He tried his best to get away 1595.5061 1340 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1595.5061 (pause 0.69) 1596.1915 1341 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1596.1915 cause he was really scared for th- for several reason, 1598.6022 1342 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1598.6022 (pause 0.17) 1598.7748 1343 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1598.7748 that was his father's best friend's wife. 1601.0351 1344 DCA_int_01 1601.2216 Oh. 1601.6413 1345 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1601.7066 You know? 1602.0237 1346 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1602.0237 (pause 0.28) 1602.3034 1347 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1602.3034 And she was his elder, and he had respected her all his life, 1604.9100 1348 DCA_int_01 1604.9405 Mm-hm. 1605.3455 1349 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1606.0326 but yet still she insisted on it, that she wanted the boy. She had practically forced the boy, you might as well say. 1610.3271 1350 DCA_int_01 1610.4034 Hm. 1610.6132 1351 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1611.0954 And then it shows how someone that can be so bold also. 1613.8791 1352 DCA_int_01 1613.9864 Mm-hm. 1614.5925 1353 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1614.6671 You know, 1615.1661 1354 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1615.1661 (pause 0.26) 1615.4225 1355 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1615.4225 by bringing the boy into her house, 1617.1665 1356 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1617.1665 (pause 0.30) 1617.4637 1357 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1617.4637 knowing that her husband was coming home, 1618.8859 1358 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1618.8859 (pause 0.65) 1619.5387 1359 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1619.5387 and undressing in front of the boy 1620.9982 1360 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1620.9982 (pause 0.56) 1621.5624 1361 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1621.5624 and locking the door 1622.5136 1362 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1622.5136 (pause 0.30) 1622.8121 1363 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1622.8121 where he couldn't get out. 1623.6327 1364 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1623.6327 (pause 1.63) 1625.2589 1365 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1625.2589 But, [] 1626.3601 1366 DCA_int_01 1626.1834 [That's] pretty bold alright. [] 1628.6162 1367 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1627.0588 [yes, it was.] And at the time, when the boy did get out, 1630.5036 1368 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1630.6574 her husband pull up in a car, 1632.0143 1369 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1632.0143 (pause 0.37) 1632.3827 1370 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1632.3827 and that's when he made sure he got out- [out the room, you know,] and got downstairs. 1635.7493 1371 DCA_int_01 1633.9541 [] 1634.9100 1372 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1636.5921 And it showed the boy, how the boy 1638.2288 1373 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1638.2288 (pause 0.15) 1638.3827 1374 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1638.3827 really grew up 1638.9749 1375 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1638.9749 (pause 0.63) 1639.6044 1376 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1639.6044 in a matter of weeks, 1640.9193 1377 DCA_int_01 1641.1617 Hm. 1641.2906 1378 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1641.4229 you know? 1641.8239 1379 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1641.8239 (pause 0.46) 1642.2844 1380 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1642.2844 And the boy just finished college and everything, 1644.3407 1381 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1644.3407 (pause 0.58) 1644.9189 1382 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1644.9189 it's amazing. 1645.5065 1383 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1645.5065 (pause 1.14) 1646.6442 1384 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1646.6442 But uh 1647.1292 1385 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1647.1292 (pause 0.70) 1647.8321 1386 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1647.8321 far as go like 1648.4010 1387 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1648.4010 (pause 0.13) 1648.5315 1388 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1648.5315 someone is really- 1649.3802 1389 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1649.3802 (pause 0.14) 1649.5201 1390 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1649.5201 a boy is really that dumb in [life, you know ] w- went through [college.] 1652.9047 1391 DCA_int_01 1650.9609 [] 1652.1080 1392 DCA_int_01 1652.1080 (pause 0.65) 1652.7608 1393 DCA_int_01 1652.7608 [College], yeah. 1653.4422 1394 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1653.3343 1653.9812 1395 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1654.1025 It's kind of hard to believe, [you know?] 1656.0097 1396 DCA_int_01 1655.1754 [Yeah.] 1655.5887 1397 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1656.3034 1657.0355 1398 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1657.0355 (pause 1.32) 1658.3551 1399 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1658.3551 But it- 1658.8540 1400 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1658.8540 (pause 0.34) 1659.1944 1401 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1659.1944 it was a very good picture, though, and it had a very good reading to it. 1661.7066 1402 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1661.7066 (pause 0.49) 1662.1962 1403 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1662.1962 Although if some people seen it, um, they thought it was a little on the dirty side. 1666.0233 1404 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1666.0233 (pause 0.57) 1666.5968 1405 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1666.5968 But I think that goes by, how that person think, 1668.9143 1406 DCA_int_01 1668.9793 Mm-hm. 1669.4019 1407 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1669.4552 you know if you think dirty everything will be dirty to you. 1671.4556 1408 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1671.4556 (pause 0.58) 1672.0326 1409 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1672.0326 But if you think there's some moral behind the story, well, you wouldn't think that way. 1675.1661 1410 DCA_int_01 1675.4831 Mm-hm. 1675.8842 1411 DCA_int_01 1675.8842 (pause 0.86) 1676.7468 1412 DCA_int_01 1676.7468 Yeah that's true. 1677.7773 1413 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1678.3404 And there was a moral behind that. 1679.5667 1414 DCA_int_01 1681.4645 When you were a kid, was there a certain group of kids that you played with? 1684.5921 1415 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1685.1657 No. 1685.5014 1416 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1685.5014 (pause 0.61) 1686.1123 1417 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1686.1123 I was always a loner. 1687.1194 1418 DCA_int_01 1687.3013 Same way, myself. 1688.2385 1419 DCA_int_01 1688.2385 (pause 2.04) 1690.2797 1420 DCA_int_01 1690.2797 What about now? Is there- 1691.3802 1421 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1691.5714 I'm a [loner.] 1692.2848 1422 DCA_int_01 1691.9537 [/inaudible/] friends? Still are a loner huh? 1694.3551 1423 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1693.6603 [Yes.] 1694.2479 1424 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1694.5603 Although, I mean I know 1695.6421 1425 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1695.6421 (pause 0.12) 1695.7622 1426 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1695.7622 quite a few fellers, and I mean 1697.2216 1427 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1697.2216 (pause 0.46) 1697.6786 1428 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1697.6786 as far as go like saying best friends, all of 'em are best friends. 1700.2852 1429 DCA_int_01 1700.3423 Mm-hm. 1700.6995 1430 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1701.0219 Equal. 1701.4742 1431 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1701.4742 (pause 0.40) 1701.8741 1432 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1701.8741 Far as go like letting someone get 1703.2310 1433 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1703.2310 (pause 0.41) 1703.6413 1434 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1703.6413 very very close to me, 1704.5226 1435 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1704.5226 (pause 0.41) 1704.9376 1436 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1704.9376 no. 1705.2826 1437 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1705.2826 (pause 1.21) 1706.4950 1438 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1706.4950 I don't trust no one that much, 1707.5663 1439 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1707.5663 (pause 0.10) 1707.6642 1440 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1707.6642 [] 1708.2844 1441 DCA_int_01 1707.6642 [] 1708.2797 1442 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1708.7740 regardless who they are, 1709.5527 1443 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1709.5527 (pause 1.20) 1710.7511 1444 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1710.7511 male or female. 1711.6370 1445 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1711.6370 (pause 0.53) 1712.1686 1446 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1712.1686 1713.3017 1447 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1713.3017 (pause 3.16) 1716.4666 1448 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1716.4666 And so 1716.8956 1449 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1716.8956 (pause 0.23) 1717.1241 1450 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1717.1241 I mean I have guys who I go out with a lot now. 1719.4509 1451 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1719.4509 (pause 0.43) 1719.8834 1452 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1719.8834 No, 1720.3497 1453 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1720.3497 (pause 0.29) 1720.6388 1454 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1720.6388 and I had 'em before, 1721.4082 1455 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1721.4082 (pause 0.41) 1721.8232 1456 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1721.8232 but I never go out with the same guy too much. 1723.7070 1457 DCA_int_01 1723.8532 Mm-hm. 1724.1785 1458 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1724.0986 You know, we never go out together on double dates too much or anything like that 1726.8999 1459 DCA_int_01 1727.1585 Mm-hm. 1727.4898 1460 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1727.6087 because I like change and back and forth. 1729.3293 1461 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1729.3293 (pause 0.35) 1729.6743 1462 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1729.6743 Because I really don't want myself to get involved with 'em. 1731.9254 1463 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1731.9254 (pause 0.99) 1732.9186 1464 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1732.9186 Cause once you get involved, anything liable to happen. 1734.8910 1465 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1734.8910 (pause 1.01) 1735.8981 1466 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1735.8981 You know, and if something happen, then your feelings hurt 1737.9440 1467 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1737.9440 (pause 1.33) 1739.2729 1468 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1739.2729 and everything backfire on you. 1740.2288 1469 DCA_int_01 1740.6346 Mm-hm. 1741.0706 1470 DCA_int_01 1741.0706 (pause 2.77) 1743.8414 1471 DCA_int_01 1743.8414 Were there, among any of these people that you were 1746.4387 1472 DCA_int_01 1746.4387 (pause 0.74) 1747.1754 1473 DCA_int_01 1747.1754 more or less friendly with, there- were there any- ever any white people? 1750.3450 1474 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1751.4268 No, I'm this way. 1752.4993 1475 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1752.4993 (pause 0.73) 1753.2314 1476 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1753.2314 I'm not prejudice. I don't 1754.1872 1477 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1754.1872 (pause 0.14) 1754.3271 1478 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1754.3271 care what race you are in, 1755.3576 1479 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1755.3576 (pause 0.21) 1755.5663 1480 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1755.5663 I'm not prejudiced towards no one because all my life I was raised with white people. 1758.6625 1481 DCA_int_01 1759.0213 Mm-hm. 1759.3480 1482 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1759.2687 White, Negro, and Spanish, 1760.6302 1483 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1760.9520 all foreigners, just about all nationalities. 1763.1780 1484 DCA_int_01 1763.2149 MM-hm. 1763.5499 1485 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1763.8278 And I go by this way. 1764.8816 1486 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1764.8816 (pause 0.60) 1765.4785 1487 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1765.4785 I don't care what race you are, if you do something to me, 1767.3809 1488 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1767.3809 (pause 1.35) 1768.7274 1489 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1768.7274 then I hold that against you. 1769.9537 1490 DCA_int_01 1770.2967 Mm-hm. 1770.6567 1491 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1771.0681 I won't be angry towards you, I'll continue to speak to you, 1773.5068 1492 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1773.5068 (pause 0.33) 1773.8368 1493 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1773.8368 talk to you, 1774.5502 1494 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1774.5502 (pause 0.66) 1775.2123 1495 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1775.2123 but yet still in the back of my mind, I never forget it, you know? 1777.4645 1496 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1777.4645 (pause 0.23) 1777.6930 1497 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1777.6930 Make sure it don't happen twice. 1778.8913 1498 DCA_int_01 1779.2232 Mm-hm. 1779.4883 1499 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1779.9300 And then, like far as it go like um 1781.5760 1500 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1781.5760 (pause 0.25) 1781.8278 1501 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1781.8278 cause you're a white man, um 1783.2733 1502 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1783.2733 (pause 0.83) 1784.0986 1503 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1784.0986 I don't have anything to say to you. 1785.0732 1504 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1785.0732 (pause 1.09) 1786.1678 1505 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1786.1678 That's wrong to think 1787.0211 1506 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1787.0211 (pause 0.09) 1787.1086 1507 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1787.1086 because um, 1787.8371 1508 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1787.8371 (pause 0.20) 1788.0330 1509 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1788.0330 they say all men a- 1788.6998 1510 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1788.6998 (pause 0.14) 1788.8397 1511 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1788.8397 are created equal, 1789.6883 1512 DCA_int_01 1789.8984 Mm-hm. 1790.2003 1513 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1790.3551 and I found out that's true because uh, some people in my race are just as bad as the white man. 1794.1496 1514 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1794.1496 (pause 0.85) 1795.0029 1515 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1795.0029 Although some of the white men, I have found this out to be true, 1797.5430 1516 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1797.5430 (pause 0.40) 1797.9440 1517 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1797.9440 will take more of advantage of you 1799.3149 1518 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1799.3149 (pause 0.62) 1799.9397 1519 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1799.9397 than a Negro will, 1800.8537 1520 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1800.8537 (pause 0.31) 1801.1614 1521 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1801.1614 but the thing about it, when they do take advantage of you, 1803.4276 1522 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1803.4276 (pause 0.74) 1804.1632 1523 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1804.1632 they try to be nice about it. 1805.1377 1524 DCA_int_01 1805.6693 1806.4060 1525 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1806.4387 You [know?] 1807.0075 1526 DCA_int_01 1806.7204 [/I don't know/ if that's good or bad. 1808.2152 1527 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1808.3271 And so like uh for instance, you find a lot of con men, 1811.2869 1528 DCA_int_01 1811.5107 Yeah. 1812.0470 1529 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1812.1682 of all races, 1813.0495 1530 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1813.0495 (pause 0.30) 1813.3479 1531 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1813.3479 and that had been tried so many times, 1815.2084 1532 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1815.2084 (pause 0.47) 1815.6782 1533 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1815.6782 guys tryna con me, you know, into doing certain things. 1818.1542 1534 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1818.1542 (pause 0.48) 1818.6298 1535 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1818.6298 And especially young ladies 1819.8562 1536 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1819.8562 (pause 0.62) 1820.4763 1537 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1820.4763 try to con me, mostly for, you know, money or to buy them something. 1823.7299 1538 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1823.7299 (pause 0.62) 1824.3501 1539 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1824.3501 And the first girl I ever bought anything for in my life was my wife. 1826.7981 1540 DCA_int_01 1827.0266 Hm. 1827.2970 1541 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1827.5057 1827.8368 1542 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1827.8368 (pause 0.33) 1828.1678 1543 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1828.1678 Other than that, 1828.6155 1544 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1828.6155 (pause 0.24) 1828.8533 1545 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1828.8533 I won't spend no money on no girl. 1829.9630 1546 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1829.9630 (pause 0.41) 1830.3780 1547 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1830.3780 And then when a girl start conning me, or somebody tryna con me, 1832.6489 1548 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1832.6489 (pause 0.56) 1833.2073 1549 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1833.2073 I move away from 'em, you know, 1834.2518 1550 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1834.2518 (pause 0.44) 1834.6947 1551 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1834.6947 because the g- con game, 1835.9817 1552 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1835.9817 (pause 0.75) 1836.7278 1553 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1836.7278 One way or the other, 1837.7043 1554 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1837.7043 (pause 0.14) 1837.8422 1555 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1837.8422 I know. 1838.2059 1556 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1838.2059 (pause 0.53) 1838.7328 1557 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1838.7328 [] 1839.1758 1558 DCA_int_01 1838.7328 [] 1839.2177 1559 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1839.3996 Cause I start getting that round when I was ten, 1840.8719 1560 DCA_int_01 1840.9912 Mm-hm. 1841.3372 1561 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1841.3988 you know? 1841.8418 1562 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1841.8418 (pause 1.26) 1843.1008 1563 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1843.1008 And then mostly the reason why I said I didn't play with no kids when I was younger because when I was ten years old, everybody I swing with 1848.4153 1564 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1848.4153 (pause 0.76) 1849.1707 1565 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1849.1707 was in they twenties. 1849.9308 1566 DCA_int_01 1850.5743 Gee whiz, that's quite a [difference.] 1852.3543 1567 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1851.7155 [Yes.] 1852.1725 1568 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1852.5875 And see I grew up fast. 1853.8185 1569 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1853.8185 (pause 0.29) 1854.1123 1570 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1854.1123 I learned a lot, 1854.6485 1571 DCA_int_01 1855.0542 Yeah. 1855.3619 1572 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1855.4458 very fast, 1856.0567 1573 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1856.0567 (pause 0.63) 1856.6908 1574 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1856.6908 and then I have uncles and aunts 1858.3264 1575 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1858.3264 (pause 0.58) 1858.9046 1576 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1858.9046 who was about 1859.6973 1577 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1859.6973 (pause 0.32) 1860.0143 1578 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1860.0143 eight, nine, ten years older than I am, 1861.5158 1579 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1861.5158 (pause 0.44) 1861.9588 1580 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1861.9588 who taught me the ropes, 1862.7888 1581 DCA_int_01 1862.9939 [Mm-hm.] 1863.5162 1582 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1863.1478 [taught me] 1863.6094 1583 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1863.8554 always look out for this, you know, look out for that. 1865.7066 1584 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1865.7066 (pause 1.17) 1866.8770 1585 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1866.8770 And that's why 1867.5857 1586 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1867.5857 (pause 0.38) 1867.9681 1587 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1867.9681 little kids seem to l- 1868.7701 1588 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1868.7701 (pause 0.26) 1869.0312 1589 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1869.0312 it's like kids to [me.] 1869.9720 1590 DCA_int_01 1869.8088 [] 1870.3077 1591 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1870.2844 1870.9745 1592 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1871.3709 You know I really [didn't have too much to say with 'em.] 1872.9236 1593 DCA_int_01 1871.9117 [They were way behind.] 1873.0029 1594 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1873.5951 Yeah. 1873.8981 1595 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1873.8981 (pause 0.31) 1874.2059 1596 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1874.2059 And then like uh, for instance, once upon a time they had a place here in DC where teenagers really could go and uh 1878.9143 1597 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1878.9143 (pause 0.35) 1879.2640 1598 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1879.2640 have theyself a ball. 1880.0054 1599 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1880.0054 (pause 0.80) 1880.8027 1600 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1880.8027 It was nice. 1881.5581 1601 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1881.5581 (pause 0.72) 1882.2751 1602 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1882.2751 And when I was supposed to be in bed at that time of night, I was out, 1884.9100 1603 DCA_int_01 1885.1241 1885.9215 1604 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1885.9634 having me a ball, you know. 1886.9286 1605 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1886.9286 (pause 0.47) 1887.3938 1606 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1887.3938 The smallest one out there, but I was out [there. ] 1890.4107 1607 DCA_int_01 1889.0678 [] 1890.4526 1608 DCA_int_01 1895.4408 Uh, if you could live your life over again, is there anything that you would change? 1899.8566 1609 DCA_int_01 1899.8566 (pause 0.76) 1900.6136 1610 DCA_int_01 1900.6136 That you'd /be willing/ to do different? 1901.9823 1611 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1902.4247 Well, if I could live my life over again, I could change something. 1905.0592 1612 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1905.0592 (pause 1.15) 1906.2051 1613 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1906.2051 It is to be- 1907.0305 1614 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1907.0305 (pause 0.24) 1907.2683 1615 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1907.2683 not to be as poor as I was. 1908.8070 1616 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1908.8070 (pause 0.33) 1909.1381 1617 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1909.1381 1910.9520 1618 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1910.9520 (pause 0.06) 1911.0079 1619 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1911.0079 You know? 1911.4602 1620 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1911.4602 (pause 0.41) 1911.8694 1621 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1911.8694 And try to contici- 1912.7880 1622 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1912.7880 (pause 0.26) 1913.0445 1623 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1913.0445 /conticipate/ more so than 1914.6298 1624 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1914.6298 (pause 0.41) 1915.0355 1625 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1915.0355 life than I did, you know, 1916.3831 1626 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1916.3831 (pause 0.34) 1916.7188 1627 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1916.7188 with other kids, 1917.5581 1628 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1917.5581 (pause 0.61) 1918.1678 1629 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1918.1678 then tryna grow up too fast. 1920.0143 1630 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1920.0143 (pause 1.34) 1921.3572 1631 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1921.3572 Because I miss out on a lot of things in life. 1922.9753 1632 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1922.9753 (pause 0.57) 1923.5430 1633 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1923.5430 You know, like a lot of things right now 1924.8066 1634 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1924.8066 (pause 0.59) 1925.3988 1635 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1925.3988 don't interest me because I already done 'em, you know, 1927.2500 1636 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1927.2500 (pause 0.39) 1927.6417 1637 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1927.6417 like a lot of the kids are doing. 1928.7841 1638 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1928.7841 (pause 1.32) 1930.1025 1639 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1930.1025 it just don't interest me, [at all.] 1931.6413 1640 DCA_int_01 1931.1511 [Sure.] 1931.5487 1641 DCA_int_01 1932.2428 You're past it. 1933.3572 1642 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1933.4692 Yeah. 1933.7489 1643 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1933.7489 (pause 0.76) 1934.5043 1644 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1934.5043 And then, I'm'a try to grow up a little slower than I did at first. 1936.7833 1645 DCA_int_01 1938.0750 What did you want to be when you g- 1939.7909 1646 DCA_int_01 1939.7909 (pause 0.46) 1940.2479 1647 DCA_int_01 1940.2479 yeah, what did you want to be when you finished school, when you were back at school? 1943.4082 1648 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1943.5667 [When I was back in school?] 1944.4247 1649 DCA_int_01 1943.5714 [Did you have a goal] you were shooting for? 1945.3712 1650 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1945.4179 Yes I did. 1946.2712 1651 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1946.2712 (pause 1.17) 1947.4369 1652 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1947.4369 I wanted to be a doctor. 1949.4315 1653 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1949.4315 (pause 0.26) 1949.6926 1654 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1949.6926 1950.6485 1655 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1950.6485 (pause 0.23) 1950.8770 1656 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1950.8770 You know? 1951.2034 1657 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1951.2034 (pause 0.70) 1951.9075 1658 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1951.9075 But uh 1952.4717 1659 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1952.4717 (pause 0.20) 1952.6722 1660 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1952.6722 really a veterinarian, 1953.9812 1661 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1953.9812 (pause 0.19) 1954.1678 1662 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1954.1678 that's what I really wanted to be. 1955.2403 1663 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1955.2403 (pause 0.90) 1956.1356 1664 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1956.1356 I really had my heart set on it. 1957.2407 1665 DCA_int_01 1957.5018 Yeah, your interest in animals and all. 1959.1385 1666 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1959.1152 Yes, 1959.5954 1667 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1960.1119 and I really lost that interest 1961.7392 1668 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1961.7392 (pause 0.23) 1961.9724 1669 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1961.9724 when that dog we had named Keno died. 1963.7256 1670 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1963.7256 (pause 0.33) 1964.0567 1671 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1964.0567 When he died, I lost all interest in being a vet. 1965.9032 1672 DCA_int_01 1966.1072 Hm. 1966.5036 1673 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1967.0584 You know? 1967.4688 1674 DCA_int_01 1968.0610 How did he die? 1969.2966 1675 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1969.6837 What happened, he had stimples. 1971.1758 1676 DCA_int_01 1971.5290 Oh. 1971.9300 1677 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1972.5129 And so, the doctor said that they had no cure for a dog with stimples cause 1976.2992 1678 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1976.2992 (pause 0.33) 1976.6256 1679 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1976.6256 he got that from being around other dogs, 1978.1865 1680 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1978.1865 (pause 0.62) 1978.8066 1681 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1978.8066 and so he said we had a choice 1980.3034 1682 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1980.3034 (pause 0.47) 1980.7697 1683 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1980.7697 either to let him live and suffer 1982.3178 1684 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1982.3178 (pause 0.80) 1983.1152 1685 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1983.1152 or put him away. 1983.8053 1686 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1983.8053 (pause 0.66) 1984.4663 1687 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1984.4663 And so we had him put away. 1985.5853 1688 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1985.5853 (pause 0.61) 1986.1962 1689 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1986.1962 You know, to see the dog living 1987.3433 1690 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1987.3433 (pause 0.55) 1987.8981 1691 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1987.8981 suffering very badly. 1988.9007 1692 DCA_int_01 1989.2014 Mm. 1989.5667 1693 DCA_int_01 1989.5667 (pause 3.97) 1993.5391 1694 DCA_int_01 1993.5391 If you had all the money you wanted just dropped in your lap, what would you do with it? 1997.4062 1695 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1998.8630 I'd share a little bit of it 1999.6650 1696 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1999.6650 (pause 0.22) 1999.8842 1697 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 1999.8842 with everybody. 2000.4903 1698 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2000.4903 (pause 1.73) 2002.2191 1699 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2002.2191 Because I wouldn't want all the money 2003.1983 1700 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2003.1983 (pause 1.21) 2004.4107 1701 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2004.4107 you find people with a lot of money are very unhappy. 2006.7048 1702 DCA_int_01 2008.4196 [You don't] think money would 2009.4361 1703 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2008.6201 [P-] 2008.8253 1704 DCA_int_01 2010.4946 would thrill you that much then? 2012.1639 1705 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2012.1499 No, money can buy everything, except love, 2014.2145 1706 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2014.8486 friendship, 2015.4874 1707 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2015.4874 (pause 0.26) 2015.7439 1708 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2015.7439 happiness. 2016.4107 1709 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2016.4107 (pause 0.74) 2017.1521 1710 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2017.1521 And those the main things a man need in this world nowadays. 2019.4649 1711 DCA_int_01 2019.7948 That's true. 2020.4663 1712 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2021.3056 Because so called friends, 2023.0355 1713 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2023.0355 (pause 0.81) 2023.8422 1714 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2023.8422 they'll be around while you got it, but when it's gone, 2026.2098 1715 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2026.2098 (pause 0.21) 2026.4243 1716 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2026.4243 that's when you find out who your friends are, you know? 2028.0292 1717 DCA_int_01 2028.0182 Mm-hm. 2028.3515 1718 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2028.5692 If they with you when you're down, 2029.6510 1719 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2029.6510 (pause 1.04) 2030.6908 1720 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2030.6908 those your friends. 2031.5302 1721 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2031.5302 (pause 0.23) 2031.7622 1722 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2031.7622 But if they only with you when you up, 2032.8906 1723 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2032.8906 (pause 1.79) 2034.6811 1724 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2034.6811 they just wanna use you. 2035.6137 1725 DCA_int_01 2035.6510 Yeah. 2035.9354 1726 DCA_int_01 2035.9354 (pause 3.06) 2038.9978 1727 DCA_int_01 2038.9978 Uh, what do you do in a day's work? 2040.7651 1728 DCA_int_01 2040.7651 (pause 0.30) 2041.0681 1729 DCA_int_01 2041.0681 Describe what you would do on a typical day at the job. 2043.8193 1730 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2044.4383 Uh, like the job I'm on now? 2045.7625 1731 DCA_int_01 2045.7625 Yeah. 2046.1262 1732 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2046.8443 Okay. 2047.2733 1733 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2047.2733 (pause 0.58) 2047.8515 1734 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2047.8515 For 2047.9914 1735 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2047.9914 (pause 0.23) 2048.2199 1736 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2048.2199 right now 2048.9939 1737 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2048.9939 (pause 0.34) 2049.3343 1738 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2049.3343 things are slow, 2050.1772 1739 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2050.1772 (pause 0.19) 2050.3683 1740 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2050.3683 and then so mostly what I do is 2051.8838 1741 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2051.8838 (pause 0.34) 2052.2242 1742 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2052.2242 something like mail, 2053.3395 1743 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2053.3395 (pause 0.56) 2053.8981 1744 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2053.8981 or I might Xerox sometime 2055.5068 1745 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2055.5068 (pause 0.86) 2056.3683 1746 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2056.3683 or I 2056.7647 1747 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2056.7647 (pause 0.50) 2057.2683 1748 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2057.2683 go out somewhere, get some airline tickets. 2059.7769 1749 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2059.7769 (pause 0.23) 2060.0054 1750 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2060.0054 Really what you have to do, is look for work. 2061.8985 1751 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2061.8985 (pause 0.79) 2062.6901 1752 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2062.6901 Yeah. 2063.0724 1753 DCA_int_01 2063.4478 Mm-hm. 2063.7202 1754 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2063.6926 And but other than that, if it's very busy, I help in processing, 2066.5649 1755 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2066.8121 do some filing 2067.8426 1756 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2067.8426 (pause 0.55) 2068.3963 1757 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2068.3963 and help with proposals and 2070.0004 1758 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2070.0004 (pause 0.10) 2070.0961 1759 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2070.0961 try to decide on 2071.0681 1760 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2071.0681 (pause 0.38) 2071.4458 1761 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2071.4458 how many proposals do we need for this year. 2073.4136 1762 DCA_int_01 2073.8694 Hm. 2074.0419 1763 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2074.2984 You know? 2074.7833 1764 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2074.7833 (pause 0.48) 2075.2589 1765 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2075.2589 How should we arrange these proposals? 2077.2080 1766 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2077.2080 (pause 0.48) 2077.6883 1767 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2077.6883 So we could find 'em easily. 2078.7981 1768 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2078.7981 (pause 0.59) 2079.3856 1769 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2079.3856 You know when it's time for the grant, 2080.5782 1770 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2080.5782 (pause 1.43) 2082.0097 1771 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2082.0097 and uh, which is very interesting, you learn a lot, 2084.0334 1772 DCA_int_01 2084.3225 [Sounds like it's] pretty high level work. 2086.1818 1773 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2084.6302 [you know?] 2085.0918 1774 DCA_int_01 2086.8719 That part. 2087.5574 1775 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2087.8465 Yes, it's high level work, but uh 2089.3806 1776 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2089.3806 (pause 1.06) 2090.4390 1777 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2090.4390 you don't get the high level money. 2091.4416 1778 DCA_int_01 2091.4870 [] 2092.4429 1779 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2091.5104 [] 2092.4616 1780 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2092.6481 That's the only problem [right there, you know?] 2094.7231 1781 DCA_int_01 2093.6646 [Yeah. ] 2094.6671 1782 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2095.1847 [They-] what they going on by is how much education you had 2097.5954 1783 DCA_int_01 2095.1847 [Yeah.] 2095.3946 1784 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2098.0699 [in school.] 2098.6621 1785 DCA_int_01 2098.1025 [Ah.] 2098.6295 1786 DCA_int_01 2098.7458 Yeah. 2099.0182 1787 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2099.3942 You know, if you had uh 2100.7977 1788 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2100.7977 (pause 0.41) 2101.2127 1789 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2101.2127 like for instance, as far as I went to school was high school, 2103.3297 1790 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2103.3297 (pause 0.77) 2104.0979 1791 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2104.0979 to the twelfth grade, 2104.9232 1792 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2104.9232 (pause 0.69) 2105.6133 1793 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2105.6133 and at the time, my parents, 2106.8676 1794 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2106.8676 (pause 0.87) 2107.7349 1795 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2107.7349 they wanted me to go to college, but 2108.9350 1796 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2108.9350 (pause 0.13) 2109.0639 1797 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2109.0639 my parents really couldn't afford it. 2110.2284 1798 DCA_int_01 2110.6714 Yeah. 2111.1237 1799 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2111.4921 And so I didn't push the issue 2113.0215 1800 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2113.0215 (pause 0.61) 2113.6324 1801 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2113.6324 because before I go to college, I say well I'd rather wait, 2116.1492 1802 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2116.1492 (pause 0.81) 2116.9559 1803 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2116.9559 and maybe one year I'll go back to school at nights, you know, 2119.5391 1804 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2119.5391 (pause 0.97) 2120.5136 1805 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2120.5136 and major in some kind of trade or something, 2122.1025 1806 DCA_int_01 2122.2529 Mm-hm. 2122.5235 1807 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2122.4849 which I did start school, you know, in Landscape Design and Small Property. 2125.5111 1808 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2126.6116 And so um 2127.4089 1809 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2127.4089 (pause 0.36) 2127.7668 1810 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2127.7668 right after I finish high school 2129.2683 1811 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2129.2683 (pause 0.20) 2129.4641 1812 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2129.4641 I moved out. 2130.0936 1813 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2130.0936 (pause 1.82) 2131.9121 1814 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2131.9121 You know? 2132.5976 1815 DCA_int_01 2132.6582 Mm, yeah. 2133.2317 1816 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2133.2784 Cause I wanted to see what it was like on the other side of the grass. 2135.4934 1817 DCA_int_01 2135.4676 Mm-hm. 2135.8100 1818 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2135.8465 It looks awfully green to me out there you know? 2138.1080 1819 DCA_int_01 2138.1313 Yeah. 2138.6395 1820 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2138.8634 And, at the time I was at the age of eighteen then, when I moved out. 2142.0330 1821 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2142.0330 (pause 0.74) 2142.7744 1822 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2142.7744 Haven't been back home yet. 2143.7536 1823 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2143.7536 (pause 0.16) 2143.9168 1824 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2143.9168 I'm twenty four. 2144.6022 1825 DCA_int_01 2145.1944 Hm. 2145.4882 1826 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2145.8881 No intentions on going back 2147.0631 1827 DCA_int_01 2147.2438 Mm-hm. 2147.5904 1828 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2147.8465 cause I feel once a young man get out there, 2149.5671 1829 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2149.5671 (pause 0.90) 2150.4717 1830 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2150.4717 supposed to [stay] 2151.2644 1831 DCA_int_01 2150.9209 [/inaudible/] 2151.7972 1832 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2151.7948 be able to stand his ground you know? 2153.0678 1833 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2153.6226 And I think when a young man turn eighteen, if he's not going to college, 2156.3738 1834 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2156.3738 (pause 0.58) 2156.9566 1835 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2156.9566 he should be on his own 2157.9813 1836 DCA_int_01 2157.9402 Right. 2158.1501 1837 DCA_int_01 2158.5109 Right, I agree. 2159.6133 1838 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2160.1262 because um 2160.7790 1839 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2160.7790 (pause 0.36) 2161.1428 1840 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2161.1428 he no more baby. 2162.0054 1841 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2162.0054 (pause 0.44) 2162.4437 1842 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2162.4437 You know, ain't mama and papa /sound educated/ for eighteen years, they tired of looking at you eating their bread. 2167.1567 1843 DCA_int_01 2167.2733 [] 2168.1266 1844 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2167.5391 [You know?] 2168.1220 1845 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2168.6022 And meeting them at the bank, you know, on pay day saying uh, how about a couple dollars, Pop? you know? 2172.5506 1846 DCA_int_01 2172.8338 Yeah. 2173.1468 1847 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2173.2174 I mean that's not where it's at. 2174.2945 1848 DCA_int_01 2174.4722 Yeah. 2174.7447 1849 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2175.7901 But I- 2176.0046 1850 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2176.0046 (pause 0.26) 2176.2611 1851 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2176.2611 I've been very fortunate though. 2177.3895 1852 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2177.3895 (pause 1.27) 2178.6625 1853 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2178.6625 I guess it through the people who I know and everything, you know, 2180.8494 1854 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2180.8494 (pause 0.70) 2181.5523 1855 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2181.5523 because really I can't say what you call a rough life. 2184.3267 1856 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2184.3267 (pause 1.37) 2185.6930 1857 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2185.6930 Because my life was pretty easy really. 2187.1047 1858 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2187.1047 (pause 0.11) 2187.2119 1859 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2187.2119 2187.9347 1860 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2187.9347 (pause 0.10) 2188.0326 1861 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2188.0326 To be honest with you, because my father and mother really broke they neck to try get me and my brother things we really wanted. 2192.0567 1862 DCA_int_01 2192.1631 Mm-hm. 2192.6377 1863 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2192.6862 You know, until my taste got so expensive in high school on [clothes.] 2195.8092 1864 DCA_int_01 2195.2123 [] 2195.9024 1865 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2196.3221 Then my dad kind of put his foot down you [know] 2198.2059 1866 DCA_int_01 2197.9315 [Mm.] 2198.2715 1867 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2198.8121 and changed those things. 2199.8787 1868 DCA_int_01 2202.3827 What do you do er uh 2203.4319 1869 DCA_int_01 2203.4319 (pause 0.50) 2203.9354 1870 DCA_int_01 2203.9354 in your family er, say when you were a kid, what did you do around Christmas time? 2207.7859 1871 DCA_int_01 2207.7859 (pause 0.42) 2208.2102 1872 DCA_int_01 2208.2102 Say, from the day before through Christmas day, what all would you do? 2211.3436 1873 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2212.9605 Well 2213.3662 1874 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2213.3662 (pause 0.37) 2213.7392 1875 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2213.7392 only thing I did far as I was concerned, Christmas was just like another day to me. 2216.8587 1876 DCA_int_01 2216.9461 Oh yeah? 2217.3518 1877 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2218.3963 Yeah after I found out it was no Santa Claus for real, it was just Mom and Dad, 2221.4505 1878 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2221.4505 (pause 0.20) 2221.6463 1879 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2221.6463 you know? 2222.3271 1880 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2222.3271 (pause 0.49) 2222.8214 1881 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2222.8214 And I found out at a very young age like seven. 2225.0491 1882 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2225.0491 (pause 0.13) 2225.1797 1883 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2225.1797 [] 2226.3594 1884 DCA_int_01 2225.1797 [] 2226.3594 1885 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2227.0775 And then after that, 2227.7722 1886 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2227.7722 (pause 0.43) 2228.2012 1887 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2228.2012 it was just another day. 2229.0965 1888 DCA_int_01 2229.2073 Mm-hm. 2229.4917 1889 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2229.5104 You know, Mother and Father still gave me gifts and things, but I wasn't surprised because I had already picked out what I wanted you [know?] 2234.8809 1890 DCA_int_01 2234.6607 [Mm-hm.] 2235.0142 1891 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2235.2586 They say, oh, what do you like? you know, because I like games, 2238.1402 1892 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2238.1402 (pause 0.37) 2238.5133 1893 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2238.5133 to bait me just to say what I like so they could try to get it for me. 2241.0406 1894 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2241.0406 (pause 1.42) 2242.4616 1895 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2242.4616 And so 2243.0724 1896 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2243.0724 (pause 0.36) 2243.4315 1897 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2243.4315 it just seemed like ordinary days to me. 2244.9049 1898 DCA_int_01 2246.0054 Would there be any decorations? 2247.4789 1899 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2248.0699 Well yeah, 2248.8300 1900 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2248.8300 (pause 0.17) 2249.0025 1901 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2249.0025 we always decorated a tree or something like that, you know. 2250.8723 1902 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2250.8723 (pause 0.63) 2251.5018 1903 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2251.5018 But after I- 2252.0101 1904 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2252.0101 (pause 0.26) 2252.2712 1905 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2252.2712 like I said, after I found out what it was, 2254.2284 1906 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2254.2284 (pause 0.73) 2254.9605 1907 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2254.9605 I wasn't 2255.3475 1908 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2255.3475 (pause 0.12) 2255.4641 1909 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2255.4641 too much interested in decorating trees or anything. I didn't see no sense in it, you know? 2258.1826 1910 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2258.1826 (pause 1.07) 2259.2550 1911 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2259.2550 Cause my brother knew also 2261.1564 1912 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2261.1564 (pause 0.24) 2261.3988 1913 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2261.3988 what it was so I say it's a waste of time and money just to decorate a tree. 2264.5276 1914 DCA_int_01 2264.6873 Mm-hm. 2265.0153 1915 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2265.1420 Because far as it go like having Christmas spirit, something I don't have. 2267.6973 1916 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2267.6973 (pause 1.32) 2269.0215 1917 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2269.0215 /Unintelligible/ I didn't have 2270.4251 1918 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2270.4251 (pause 1.23) 2271.6502 1919 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2271.6502 up until a year ago. 2272.5595 1920 DCA_int_01 2273.0678 Oh yeah? 2273.6273 1921 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2273.7719 Yeah. 2274.1542 1922 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2274.1542 (pause 0.12) 2274.2755 1923 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2274.2755 2274.8164 1924 DCA_int_01 2274.8117 Now you got it again? [] 2276.4717 1925 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2275.8189 [Yeah], I developed it. 2277.0685 1926 DCA_int_01 2279.3149 Did you- 2279.8511 1927 DCA_int_01 2279.8511 (pause 0.31) 2280.1635 1928 DCA_int_01 2280.1635 was it a day for visiting? 2281.5717 1929 DCA_int_01 2281.5717 (pause 0.65) 2282.2245 1930 DCA_int_01 2282.2245 I mean did your relatives come around or would you go around to your relative's house or [anything like] that? 2286.7604 1931 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2285.8325 [Uh] 2286.2708 1932 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2286.7930 they came around visiting an awful lot, 2288.2805 1933 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2288.2805 (pause 0.25) 2288.5323 1934 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2288.5323 lot of my relatives did. 2289.5383 1935 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2289.5383 (pause 0.60) 2290.1398 1936 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2290.1398 But far as it go, like me going visiting them? 2292.1775 1937 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2292.1775 (pause 0.40) 2292.5785 1938 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2292.5785 No. 2292.8583 1939 DCA_int_01 2293.3996 /Oh really?/ 2293.9040 1940 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2293.9215 I don't like to go to people houses and sit. 2295.7027 1941 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2295.7027 (pause 0.22) 2295.9207 1942 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2295.9207 I can stay home and sit too well [ you know?] 2298.0283 1943 DCA_int_01 2297.2683 [] 2298.0563 1944 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2298.5273 2298.9469 1945 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2298.9469 (pause 0.52) 2299.4692 1946 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2299.4692 I always, if there's no action there, I don't wanna go 2301.7622 1947 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2301.7622 (pause 0.62) 2302.3823 1948 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2302.3823 cause if I go, I just run in and say, hello, you doing, and then that's it. I'm all ready to go you know. 2306.2572 1949 DCA_int_01 2306.1983 Mm-hm. 2306.6327 1950 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2307.3005 And it's the same way right now, 2308.6388 1951 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2308.6388 (pause 0.61) 2309.2450 1952 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2309.2450 far as it go like 2309.9491 1953 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2309.9491 (pause 0.28) 2310.2242 1954 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2310.2242 going to someone's house and sit down 2311.9168 1955 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2311.9168 (pause 0.34) 2312.2572 1956 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2312.2572 blase, and you know? 2313.3343 1957 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2313.3343 (pause 1.01) 2314.3430 1958 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2314.3430 I'm really not interested in that because for one thing, 2316.7089 1959 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2316.7089 (pause 0.22) 2316.9336 1960 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2316.9336 you have to hold still too long, 2318.0042 1961 DCA_int_01 2318.3516 Yeah. 2318.9200 1962 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2319.2856 it's too quiet, 2320.0787 1963 DCA_int_01 2320.1712 2320.6558 1964 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2320.7395 you know? 2321.2065 1965 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2321.2065 (pause 1.04) 2322.2507 1966 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2322.2507 And I guess it really is my nerves you know? 2324.1143 1967 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2324.1143 (pause 0.29) 2324.4089 1968 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2324.4089 I just can't hold still that long. 2325.5632 1969 DCA_int_01 2328.8367 What was the best Christmas present you ever got? 2331.2196 1970 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2333.3211 Oh boy. 2334.8014 1971 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2334.8014 (pause 0.67) 2335.4711 1972 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2335.4711 Let me see, 2335.9822 1973 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2335.9822 (pause 0.92) 2336.9054 1974 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2336.9054 yes I do remember. 2337.7121 1975 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2337.7121 (pause 1.43) 2339.1436 1976 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2339.1436 The best Christmas present I ever got 2340.4760 1977 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2340.4760 (pause 1.07) 2341.5439 1978 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2341.5439 was a handkerchief. 2342.2899 1979 DCA_int_01 2343.0360 What? 2343.7634 1980 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2343.7028 A handkerchief. 2344.5188 1981 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2345.3115 To me. 2345.8664 1982 DCA_int_01 2346.1357 2346.6206 1983 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2347.0123 It was cheap 2347.9262 1984 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2347.9262 (pause 0.09) 2348.0195 1985 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2348.0195 but 2348.3086 1986 DCA_int_01 2348.2992 Got a story behind [that.] 2349.4230 1987 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2349.1246 [And it was] a card along with it. 2350.7426 1988 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2351.5586 And I receive it from my wife. 2352.9097 1989 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2352.9097 (pause 0.40) 2353.3060 1990 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2353.3060 At the time she was my fiancee, 2354.7282 1991 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2354.7282 (pause 1.59) 2356.3229 1992 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2356.3229 and it [/really got next to me/.] 2357.3954 1993 DCA_int_01 2356.6120 [/inaudible/] 2357.6985 1994 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2358.5507 And then uh, it's another one that I receive also. 2360.8681 1995 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2360.8681 (pause 0.13) 2361.0013 1996 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2361.0013 It was two 2361.4370 1997 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2361.4370 (pause 0.14) 2361.5815 1998 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2361.5815 very good ones. 2362.0572 1999 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2362.0572 (pause 0.46) 2362.5141 2000 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2362.5141 It's when uh 2363.2415 2001 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2363.2415 (pause 0.20) 2363.4374 2002 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2363.4374 I was renting a room with 2364.2569 2003 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2364.2569 (pause 0.20) 2364.4574 2004 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2364.4574 this family, 2365.1428 2005 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2365.1428 (pause 0.66) 2365.8050 2006 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2365.8050 and what is it, they treat me like I was their son. 2367.9546 2007 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2367.9546 (pause 0.34) 2368.2950 2008 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2368.2950 You know, they let me have the use of the whole entire house, 2370.3035 2009 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2370.3035 (pause 0.21) 2370.5134 2010 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2370.5134 the car. 2371.0776 2011 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2371.0776 (pause 0.57) 2371.6464 2012 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2371.6464 I was just like I was back at home at Mom and Dad's, you know, really, 2374.4442 2013 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2374.4442 (pause 0.69) 2375.1389 2014 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2375.1389 and at that Christmas 2376.3500 2015 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2376.3500 (pause 0.86) 2377.2081 2016 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2377.2081 they gave me clothes you know, 2378.3272 2017 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2378.3272 (pause 0.46) 2378.7842 2018 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2378.7842 sweater shirts. They knew my taste very well. 2380.6400 2019 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2380.6400 (pause 0.61) 2381.2509 2020 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2381.2509 You know and 2381.7218 2021 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2381.7218 (pause 0.09) 2381.8104 2022 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2381.8104 they gave me those things, which really shocked me 2383.6511 2023 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2383.6511 (pause 0.72) 2384.3692 2024 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2384.3692 cause I really wasn't expect for them to do that. 2385.8287 2025 DCA_int_01 2386.1210 Mm-hm. 2386.5344 2026 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2386.4582 You know? 2386.9991 2027 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2387.6798 And I mean they really seemed like my parents. 2389.1895 2028 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2389.1895 (pause 0.76) 2389.9449 2029 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2389.9449 Right today they do. 2390.9241 2030 DCA_int_01 2390.9940 Hm. 2391.2738 2031 DCA_int_01 2391.2738 (pause 0.49) 2391.7634 2032 DCA_int_01 2391.7634 That's great. 2392.5468 2033 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2394.0004 But I've always [been very fortunate,] you know. 2395.7444 2034 DCA_int_01 2394.3781 [/inaudible/] 2395.2221 2035 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2396.0941 At Christmas time, I always receive a lot of gifts. 2398.3323 2036 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2398.3323 (pause 0.71) 2399.0457 2037 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2399.0457 I give quite a few because um 2400.7278 2038 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2400.7278 (pause 0.21) 2400.9423 2039 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2400.9423 mostly who I give my gifts to- I don't give gifts to adults, very seldom. 2403.6468 2040 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2403.6468 (pause 0.40) 2404.0478 2041 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2404.0478 Mostly to kids, 2404.9524 2042 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2404.9524 (pause 0.55) 2405.5073 2043 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2405.5073 you know, my little brothers, or little cousins, or someone else's little kids 2408.9287 2044 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2408.9287 (pause 0.76) 2409.6888 2045 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2409.6888 because I used to be a sucker. Excuse the [expression!] 2412.3500 2046 DCA_int_01 2411.4420 [] 2412.3500 2047 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2412.9983 But I enjoyed it 2413.8563 2048 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2413.8563 (pause 0.16) 2414.0148 2049 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2414.0148 because um 2414.8122 2050 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2414.8122 (pause 0.33) 2415.1386 2051 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2415.1386 to me, to see someone other b- somebody else's kids happy, make me very happy. 2418.3042 2052 DCA_int_01 2418.4147 Yeah. 2418.6724 2053 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2419.0403 You know? 2419.3433 2054 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2419.3433 (pause 0.68) 2420.0195 2055 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2420.0195 And I used to spend my whole pay check. 2421.4883 2056 DCA_int_01 2422.4582 Mm. 2422.9944 2057 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2423.5726 Just [buying] 2424.0947 2058 DCA_int_01 2424.0100 [Those] kids [appreciate] it too. 2425.4086 2059 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2424.5660 [e-] 2424.7685 2060 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2425.5392 And 2426.0381 2061 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2426.0381 (pause 0.09) 2426.1267 2062 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2426.1267 you know, just giving things to people kids. 2427.6468 2063 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2427.6468 (pause 0.16) 2427.8054 2064 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2427.8054 Even right today, 2428.5934 2065 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2428.5934 (pause 0.84) 2429.4316 2066 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2429.4316 if my wife don't catch me first, [you know?] 2431.8842 2067 DCA_int_01 2431.1149 [] 2431.8609 2068 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2432.3552 I spend my money cause right next door to me in the same apartment building is a little boy seven years old. 2436.3408 2069 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2436.3408 (pause 0.88) 2437.2175 2070 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2437.2175 His mother's 2438.0288 2071 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2438.0288 (pause 0.12) 2438.1454 2072 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2438.1454 and father separated so, she take care of him. 2440.3136 2073 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2440.3136 (pause 0.48) 2440.7892 2074 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2440.7892 But she- to me, she's cruel to the boy 2442.7558 2075 DCA_int_01 2442.9750 Hm. 2443.2594 2076 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2443.6324 because um 2444.4065 2077 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2444.4065 (pause 0.13) 2444.5324 2078 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2444.5324 the boy wanna go out and play with some of the other guys out, so as you know, ride the bicycle around. 2448.3093 2079 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2448.3093 (pause 0.56) 2448.8647 2080 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2448.8647 She said, no, you stay in this house, you know? 2450.6490 2081 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2450.6490 (pause 0.62) 2451.2691 2082 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2451.2691 And so um 2452.2343 2083 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2452.2343 (pause 0.45) 2452.6866 2084 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2452.6866 I mean she spanks the boy a lot. 2453.8710 2085 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2453.8710 (pause 0.21) 2454.0844 2086 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2454.0844 She spank him so bad til you can hear it through the walls just about. 2456.9008 2087 DCA_int_01 2457.1431 /inaudible/ 2457.9568 2088 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2458.1131 And so what I do, he stays at my house a lot now. 2460.2522 2089 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2460.2522 (pause 0.32) 2460.5740 2090 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2460.5740 You know, spend the night and everything. 2461.9262 2091 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2461.9262 (pause 0.30) 2462.2293 2092 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2462.2293 I take him out horseback riding, 2463.7541 2093 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2463.7541 (pause 0.16) 2463.9173 2094 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2463.9173 things that he never done before, 2465.0970 2095 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2465.0970 (pause 0.62) 2465.7207 2096 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2465.7207 and just to see the expression on his face, and the other kids around there, 2468.6443 2097 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2468.6443 (pause 0.33) 2468.9707 2098 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2468.9707 how happy they be when I do these, make me feel very good. 2471.0037 2099 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2471.0037 (pause 0.25) 2471.2509 2100 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2471.2509 Make me feel like I'm doing something, 2472.1182 2101 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2472.1182 (pause 0.38) 2472.4994 2102 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2472.4994 you know? 2473.0123 2103 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2473.0123 (pause 1.17) 2474.1827 2104 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2474.1827 And most people really think he's my little brother, cause he calls- he tells everybody I'm his brother. 2477.8197 2105 DCA_int_01 2477.9414 Mm-hm. [] 2479.5345 2106 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2478.2522 [] 2479.5345 2107 DCA_int_01 2480.4764 Probably better than his brother. 2481.6235 2108 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2481.5909 2482.0525 2109 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2482.3229 But little girls, 2483.3674 2110 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2483.3674 (pause 0.47) 2483.8419 2111 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2483.8419 I'll give 'em a gift, but as far as go like 2485.3433 2112 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2485.3433 (pause 0.17) 2485.5159 2113 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2485.5159 playing with little girls and thing? 2486.5137 2114 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2486.5137 (pause 0.12) 2486.6303 2115 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2486.6303 No. 2486.9707 2116 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2486.9707 (pause 1.16) 2488.1318 2117 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2488.1318 Because um 2488.9478 2118 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2488.9478 (pause 0.60) 2489.5435 2119 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2489.5435 when a girl's at a certain age 2490.9563 2120 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2490.9563 (pause 0.49) 2491.4506 2121 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2491.4506 it's wise for a man not to 2492.7515 2122 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2492.7515 (pause 0.39) 2493.1386 2123 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2493.1386 be too close to her. 2493.8940 2124 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2493.8940 (pause 0.85) 2494.7473 2125 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2494.7473 If anything happen 2495.7871 2126 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2495.7871 (pause 0.74) 2496.5273 2127 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2496.5273 you can be blame, 2497.2687 2128 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2497.2687 (pause 0.40) 2497.6698 2129 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2497.6698 whether you was around when it happened or not, 2498.9940 2130 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2498.9940 (pause 0.42) 2499.4183 2131 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2499.4183 you know? 2499.8613 2132 DCA_int_01 2500.5654 And it's just a smart thing /to do/. 2502.0436 2133 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2502.4714 2503.0263 2134 DCA_int_01 2505.1805 Were you a- change and make it a little more serious for a moment 2508.0886 2135 DCA_int_01 2508.0886 (pause 0.16) 2508.2476 2136 DCA_int_01 2508.2476 were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or die? 2511.2085 2137 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2512.8172 Um 2513.6892 2138 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2513.6892 (pause 0.95) 2514.6393 2139 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2514.6393 let me see if I can remember. 2515.6651 2140 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2515.6651 (pause 1.48) 2517.1432 2141 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2517.1432 Yes I was, once. 2518.2852 2142 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2518.2852 (pause 1.06) 2519.3441 2143 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2519.3441 It was when I fell out of a two story window once. 2521.4972 2144 DCA_int_01 2521.4663 Oh my gosh. 2522.2983 2145 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2523.0966 You know? 2523.5955 2146 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2523.5955 (pause 0.78) 2524.3789 2147 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2524.3789 And it was, I was just 2525.6006 2148 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2525.6006 (pause 0.44) 2526.0377 2149 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2526.0377 jiving around, 2526.7931 2150 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2526.7931 (pause 0.65) 2527.4459 2151 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2527.4459 my cousin and I, 2528.1827 2152 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2528.1827 (pause 0.26) 2528.4438 2153 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2528.4438 doing something we wasn't supposed to be doing, 2529.7028 2154 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2529.7028 (pause 0.34) 2530.0385 2155 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2530.0385 like playing baseball inside the house. 2531.6892 2156 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2531.6892 (pause 0.87) 2532.5553 2157 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2532.5553 You know? On the second floor. 2534.1314 2158 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2534.1314 (pause 0.58) 2534.7142 2159 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2534.7142 She was in the 2535.3204 2160 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2535.3204 (pause 0.15) 2535.4696 2161 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2535.4696 hall 2536.0012 2162 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2536.0012 (pause 0.35) 2536.3509 2163 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2536.3509 and the bedroom door, when you open it, 2537.5586 2164 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2537.5586 (pause 0.11) 2537.6694 2165 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2537.6694 you could throw the ball way back and hit 2539.4319 2166 DCA_int_01 2539.3670 Mm-hm. 2539.7603 2167 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2539.7350 the ball. 2540.1314 2168 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2540.7376 And so when she um 2541.7261 2169 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2541.7261 (pause 0.96) 2542.6820 2170 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2542.6820 threw the ball this time, 2543.6845 2171 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2543.6845 (pause 0.35) 2544.0331 2172 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2544.0331 I got ready to hit the ball, 2544.9936 2173 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2544.9936 (pause 0.26) 2545.2548 2174 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2545.2548 and then I see well it might break the window pane if I swung the bat 2547.9079 2175 DCA_int_01 2548.0688 Mm-hm. 2548.4128 2176 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2548.3043 so I dropped the bat to catch the ball, and when I went back like that 2550.8864 2177 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2551.4599 I went through the window. 2552.1267 2178 DCA_int_01 2552.1326 Huh? 2552.4712 2179 DCA_int_01 2552.4712 (pause 0.42) 2552.8868 2180 DCA_int_01 2552.8868 Was the window closed? 2553.8100 2181 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2554.0898 No it was open. 2554.7379 2182 DCA_int_01 2554.6913 Oh. 2555.0410 2183 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2555.2555 Cause in the summer time. 2556.1648 2184 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2556.1648 (pause 0.61) 2556.7791 2185 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2556.7791 I got the ball and /unintelligible/ get hurt. 2558.4485 2186 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2558.4485 (pause 0.62) 2559.0733 2187 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2559.0733 But [on the way going down] a lot of thoughts running through my mind. 2563.3853 2188 DCA_int_01 2563.3294 Weren't hurt at all, didn't break any bones? 2565.1059 2189 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2565.0406 No, I wasn't hurt. I was shocked though. 2566.7426 2190 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2566.9151 [You know?] 2567.3208 2191 DCA_int_01 2566.9711 [Well I] guess. 2567.7171 2192 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2568.0844 That's about all. I landed on my feet and everything. 2570.3179 2193 DCA_int_01 2570.2653 Oh my [/gosh/.] 2571.2446 2194 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2570.8122 You know. 2571.1386 2195 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2572.9851 But I was shocked more than I was anything else. 2574.8537 2196 DCA_int_01 2574.9917 Mm-hm. 2575.3824 2197 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2575.7490 But other than that, as far as go like 2577.0313 2198 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2577.0313 (pause 0.32) 2577.3531 2199 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2577.3531 being close to death or anything like that, no. 2579.0550 2200 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2579.0550 (pause 0.65) 2579.7078 2201 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2579.7078 Because um 2580.3500 2202 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2580.3500 (pause 0.80) 2581.1522 2203 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2581.1522 I really was never around the type of environment where 2583.5629 2204 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2583.5629 (pause 0.34) 2583.9033 2205 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2583.9033 [I might] 2584.3509 2206 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2584.3509 (pause 0.19) 2584.5374 2207 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2584.5374 feel like [something really] happened [to me.] 2586.0669 2208 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2586.0669 (pause 2.14) 2588.2106 2209 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2588.2106 And that's all I have to say about that. 2589.6095 2210 DCA_int_01 2589.6375 Yeah. 2589.8986 2211 DCA_int_01 2589.8986 (pause 1.02) 2590.9151 2212 DCA_int_01 2590.9151 Sometimes people say that 2592.0482 2213 DCA_int_01 2592.0482 (pause 0.39) 2592.4341 2214 DCA_int_01 2592.4341 whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. [There's no sense] fighting it. 2595.2411 2215 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2594.1314 [That's true.] 2594.7795 2216 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2595.3810 That's right. It doesn't worry- 2596.2996 2217 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2596.2996 (pause 0.16) 2596.4628 2218 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2596.4628 it don't even worry me. 2597.2602 2219 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2597.2602 (pause 0.46) 2597.7160 2220 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2597.7160 And then like um 2598.5507 2221 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2598.5507 (pause 0.74) 2599.2921 2222 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2599.2921 a lot of people tell me, say, 2600.2899 2223 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2600.2899 (pause 0.56) 2600.8541 2224 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2600.8541 you better not go out this time of night because somebody might 2603.2322 2225 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2603.2322 (pause 0.18) 2603.4141 2226 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2603.4141 hurt you, or something like that. 2604.3500 2227 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2604.3500 (pause 0.51) 2604.8584 2228 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2604.8584 And far as go like going to school and things, or certain areas a lot of kids wouldn't go through 2608.6734 2229 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2608.6734 (pause 0.98) 2609.6565 2230 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2609.6565 because in order for us to get to school, we have to go through the rough areas. Guys who uh collect protection fees. 2614.3509 2231 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2614.3509 (pause 1.30) 2615.6519 2232 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2615.6519 And so end up, I got to know all the hoodlums and thugs around the neighborhood, 2618.6723 2233 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2618.6723 (pause 0.31) 2618.9847 2234 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2618.9847 so I can get through those areas for free [/unintelligible/ you know,] 2621.9352 2235 DCA_int_01 2621.0084 [] 2621.9829 2236 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2622.0517 without the fear of getting beat up. 2623.4319 2237 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2623.4319 (pause 0.60) 2624.0288 2238 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2624.0288 But yet still, right to this day, I don't care. 2626.1831 2239 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2626.1831 (pause 0.13) 2626.3136 2240 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2626.3136 I'll walk through anywhere. 2627.6519 2241 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2627.6519 (pause 0.19) 2627.8419 2242 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2627.8419 If a group of boys come down the street 2629.0449 2243 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2629.0449 (pause 0.17) 2629.2175 2244 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2629.2175 I walk on past 'em. 2630.0241 2245 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2630.0241 (pause 0.46) 2630.4811 2246 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2630.4811 It don't bother me because I feel this way: 2632.3183 2247 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2632.3183 (pause 0.54) 2632.8580 2248 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2632.8580 it's the good Lord meaning for me to get hurt, 2634.3500 2249 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2634.3500 (pause 0.61) 2634.9563 2250 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2634.9563 I'm gonna get hurt. You can't duck it. 2635.9355 2251 DCA_int_01 2636.1827 Mm-hm. 2636.7376 2252 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2636.7935 But if you don't well, 2637.8147 2253 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2637.8147 (pause 0.44) 2638.2577 2254 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2638.2577 you can walk on through, and then if you show a person that you're not scared 2640.7418 2255 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2640.7418 (pause 0.76) 2641.4972 2256 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2641.4972 and just ignore them but keep to yourself, 2643.0406 2257 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2643.0406 (pause 1.11) 2644.1504 2258 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2644.1504 they not gonna bother you. 2644.8452 2259 DCA_int_01 2644.9792 Mm-hm. 2645.2872 2260 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2645.5528 Because they don't know what you gonna do. 2646.6719 2261 DCA_int_01 2646.8211 Yeah. 2647.0916 2262 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2648.3365 But if you show a little bit of fear, 2649.5909 2263 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2649.5909 (pause 0.33) 2649.9219 2264 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2649.9219 which I did one time in my life, 2651.3581 2265 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2651.3581 (pause 0.76) 2652.1170 2266 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2652.1170 boy you can really have it. 2652.9843 2267 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2652.9843 (pause 1.02) 2654.0008 2268 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2654.0008 This one thing I did in my life, 2655.2831 2269 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2655.2831 (pause 0.50) 2655.7820 2270 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2655.7820 was when I was in elementary school with this boy. 2658.0109 2271 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2658.0109 (pause 0.39) 2658.4014 2272 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2658.4014 /He used to wait for me/ everyday, he was /waiting where I was/ 2660.8401 2273 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2660.8401 (pause 0.66) 2661.4976 2274 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2661.4976 and everyday /unintelligible/ 2662.5841 2275 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2662.5841 (pause 0.52) 2663.1016 2276 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2663.1016 I always ran home. 2664.0995 2277 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2664.0995 (pause 0.34) 2664.4434 2278 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2664.4434 He was right behind me, ready to catch up with me and beat me up you know. 2666.7888 2279 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2666.7888 (pause 0.79) 2667.5769 2280 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2667.5769 And so he chased me up for about a year and half 2669.1576 2281 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2669.1576 (pause 0.17) 2669.3301 2282 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2669.3301 a year and half. 2670.1042 2283 DCA_int_01 2670.3309 Oh my god. 2671.2182 2284 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2671.6045 And finally then one day, my father see me running. 2673.6468 2285 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2673.6468 (pause 0.83) 2674.4815 2286 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2674.4815 And he say, if you come running home again, 2675.8757 2287 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2675.8757 (pause 0.75) 2676.6299 2288 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2676.6299 you gonna get a beating when you get home, every day that you run. 2678.4158 2289 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2678.4158 (pause 1.45) 2679.8706 2290 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2679.8706 And so that next day, the boy came after me, 2681.8664 2291 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2681.8664 (pause 0.54) 2682.4014 2292 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2682.4014 I started to run. 2683.2594 2293 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2683.2594 (pause 1.23) 2684.4858 2294 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2684.4858 And I seen my father, 2685.4836 2295 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2685.4836 (pause 0.83) 2686.3136 2296 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2686.3136 and so at that time, I stopped and turned around. 2688.3688 2297 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2688.3688 (pause 0.61) 2688.9750 2298 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2688.9750 The boy caught me and raised his fists and got ready to hit me. 2691.2318 2299 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2691.2318 (pause 0.39) 2691.6235 2300 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2691.6235 We got into a little scuffle. 2692.9291 2301 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2692.9291 (pause 0.66) 2693.5913 2302 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2693.5913 End up I was able to beat the boy. [] 2696.0241 2303 DCA_int_01 2695.2548 [] 2696.1034 2304 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2696.4578 And then it was my turn to do some b- 2697.8567 2305 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2697.8567 (pause 0.15) 2698.0059 2306 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2698.0059 do some chasing [for awhile, you know?] 2699.7171 2307 DCA_int_01 2698.6773 [] 2699.7265 2308 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2700.0657 But it really shocked me that I really could whip the boy. 2702.3319 2309 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2702.3319 (pause 0.37) 2702.7049 2310 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2702.7049 And ever since that day, 2703.5209 2311 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2703.5209 (pause 0.25) 2703.7681 2312 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2703.7681 I never been afraid of anyone, 2704.8685 2313 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2704.8685 (pause 0.16) 2705.0317 2314 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2705.0317 you know? 2705.5120 2315 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2705.5120 (pause 0.46) 2705.9725 2316 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2705.9725 I never run from anyone, let nothing scare me like that. 2707.8143 2317 DCA_int_01 2709.4312 /inaudible/ 2710.2339 2318 DCA_int_01 2710.2339 (pause 0.49) 2710.7240 2319 DCA_int_01 2710.7240 /not/ for a year and a half. 2711.9316 2320 DCA_se2_ag2_m_02 2712.1496 2712.8910 2321 DCA_int_01 2713.9542 Must have been a great day. 2714.9008