Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCA_int_01 0.5407 Uh what kind of games did you play when you were a kid about ten, do you remember? 4.3465 2 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 4.6738 About ten? 5.3659 3 DCA_int_01 5.4259 Yeah. 5.8671 4 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 6.8009 I would say 7.3628 5 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 7.3628 (pause 0.26) 7.6204 6 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 7.6204 leap frog 8.3033 7 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 8.3033 (pause 0.93) 9.2332 8 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 9.2332 uh mumblety-peg 10.1078 9 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 10.1078 (pause 1.12) 11.2301 10 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 11.2301 baseball, 11.8913 11 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 11.8913 (pause 0.73) 12.6177 12 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 12.6177 football, 13.3220 13 DCA_int_01 15.8019 [What's mum-] mumblety-peg? 17.2125 14 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 15.9740 [uh,] 16.6024 15 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 17.3306 Pardon? 17.8226 16 DCA_int_01 17.7028 How did you play mumblety-peg? 19.0307 17 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 19.2122 With an ice pick. 19.8920 18 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 19.8920 (pause 0.62) 20.5123 19 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 20.5123 You uh, 21.0406 20 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 21.0406 (pause 0.07) 21.1126 21 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 21.1126 put it on your hand and you 22.0835 22 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 22.0835 (pause 0.16) 22.2448 23 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 22.2448 do like that 22.6138 24 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 22.6138 (pause 0.07) 22.6872 25 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 22.6872 stick it in the ground. 23.5595 26 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 23.5595 (pause 0.93) 24.4889 27 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 24.4889 another way you stand up and 25.8373 28 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 25.8373 (pause 0.29) 26.1224 29 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 26.1224 it has various phases. 27.1452 30 DCA_int_01 27.3945 Mm-hm. 27.8530 31 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 27.8066 The m- 28.0582 32 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 28.1428 ma- the 28.7831 33 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 28.7831 (pause 0.08) 28.8591 34 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 28.8591 main point of the game is to put the point of the ice pick in the dirt. 31.7765 35 DCA_int_01 32.4770 Mm-hm. 32.9106 36 DCA_int_01 32.9106 (pause 0.57) 33.4782 37 DCA_int_01 33.4782 Well how- how did you 34.4940 38 DCA_int_01 34.4940 (pause 0.76) 35.2543 39 DCA_int_01 35.2543 win or? 35.9553 40 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 36.6579 Well uh, 37.2994 41 DCA_int_01 38.0858 Or. 38.1976 42 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 38.1026 the final as I remember the final uh 40.2331 43 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 41.0694 phase of it was to stick the- 42.3117 44 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 42.3117 (pause 0.20) 42.5101 45 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 42.5101 stand up 43.0304 46 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 43.0304 (pause 0.18) 43.2144 47 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 43.2144 and throw the 43.8298 48 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 43.8298 (pause 0.04) 43.8722 49 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 43.8722 point 44.2324 50 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 44.2324 (pause 0.09) 44.3244 51 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 44.3244 of the- 44.8229 52 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 44.8229 (pause 0.26) 45.0808 53 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 45.0808 by twirling 45.7331 54 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 45.7331 (pause 0.12) 45.8531 55 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 45.8531 the ice pick 46.3654 56 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 46.3654 (pause 0.78) 47.1497 57 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 47.1497 three times 47.8594 58 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 47.8594 (pause 0.05) 47.9094 59 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 47.9094 into the ground 48.4770 60 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 48.4770 (pause 0.33) 48.8027 61 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 48.8027 Had to hit three times in a row 49.8881 62 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 49.8881 (pause 0.36) 50.2434 63 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 50.2434 standing up. 50.7760 64 DCA_int_01 52.1800 Were you a certain distance away or? 53.6593 65 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 54.6092 No you were 55.2592 66 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 55.2592 (pause 0.05) 55.3087 67 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 55.3087 right [yea- just like] we're sitting here, 56.8848 68 DCA_int_01 55.5539 [/??/] 56.0754 69 DCA_int_01 56.9508 [Uh-huh.] 57.4013 70 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 56.9655 [the ground] was right in front of us 58.1481 71 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 58.4957 so you just stood up and 59.4687 72 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 59.4687 (pause 0.19) 59.6621 73 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 59.6621 threw it 60.0030 74 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 60.0030 (pause 0.13) 60.1364 75 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 60.1364 down, more or [less.] 60.9927 76 DCA_int_01 60.6741 [Okay.] 61.0395 77 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 61.0408 Straight down. 61.5961 78 DCA_int_01 62.8512 And if it fell over it didn't count? 64.5056 79 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 64.4146 Uh you missed. 65.2593 80 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 65.7464 Yes. 66.0213 81 DCA_int_01 67.9457 What was the first game you said? I forget. 69.5944 82 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 71.7677 Uh, Mumblety-peg I- 72.7862 83 DCA_int_01 73.8219 [I think you ment-] leap [frog yeah] how does that go? 76.0111 84 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 73.8485 [Leap frog.] 74.4532 85 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 74.4532 (pause 0.32) 74.7693 86 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 74.7693 [Leap frog.] 75.2047 87 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 76.4981 Well one person 77.4719 88 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 77.4719 (pause 0.19) 77.6587 89 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 77.6587 bends over in front of you and you uh, 79.1393 90 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 79.1393 (pause 0.11) 79.2529 91 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 79.2529 approach him from the rear 80.1989 92 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 80.1989 (pause 0.30) 80.4969 93 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 80.4969 and put your hands on his back and 81.6435 94 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 81.6435 (pause 0.06) 81.7075 95 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 81.7075 jump over his 82.5079 96 DCA_int_01 82.4916 Mm-hm. 82.6831 97 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 82.9801 body. 83.2447 98 DCA_int_01 83.6579 Mm-hm. 84.1226 99 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 84.8024 Then this continues, then he does and however many play and then he just- 87.7918 100 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 87.7918 (pause 0.46) 88.2520 101 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 88.2520 keep going. 88.8083 102 DCA_int_01 89.4115 How did you work uh baseball? How did you pick sides 92.3276 103 DCA_int_01 92.3276 (pause 0.32) 92.6523 104 DCA_int_01 92.6523 for baseball? 93.4186 105 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 93.6815 Usually uh, take a bat 94.9996 106 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 94.9996 (pause 0.98) 95.9840 107 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 95.9840 and uh 96.7793 108 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 96.7793 (pause 0.29) 97.0725 109 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 97.0725 two people 97.6110 110 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 97.6110 (pause 0.13) 97.7383 111 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 97.7383 you know 98.1545 112 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 98.1545 (pause 0.35) 98.5067 113 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 98.5067 they 98.9149 114 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 98.9149 (pause 0.26) 99.1710 115 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 99.1710 swing the bat to- grab it 100.3944 116 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 100.3944 (pause 0.15) 100.5411 117 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 100.5411 and somebody swings the bat and whoever 102.1491 118 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 102.1491 (pause 0.28) 102.4300 119 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 102.4300 lets go 103.0395 120 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 103.0395 (pause 0.60) 103.6345 121 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 103.6345 he has first choice. 104.5281 122 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 104.5281 (pause 0.88) 105.4036 123 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 105.4036 So then 105.8998 124 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 105.8998 (pause 0.17) 106.0679 125 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 106.0679 he choose first then whoever was the other /per-/ person 108.3783 126 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 108.3783 (pause 0.05) 108.4252 127 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 108.4252 choose second and alternate 109.5537 128 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 109.5537 (pause 0.26) 109.8178 129 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 109.8178 like that. 110.2416 130 DCA_int_01 111.4026 But how did you decide who was 112.7813 131 DCA_int_01 112.7813 (pause 0.29) 113.0673 132 DCA_int_01 113.0673 gonna be up first? 114.2364 133 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 115.0045 Well whoever 115.6996 134 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 115.6996 (pause 0.54) 116.2370 135 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 116.2370 won the 116.8068 136 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 116.8068 (pause 0.08) 116.8832 137 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 116.8832 first choice. 117.5396 138 DCA_int_01 118.1989 Oh, [he got the] first [choice for the] team? 120.0956 139 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 118.5223 [Auto-] 118.8793 140 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 118.8793 (pause 0.38) 119.2587 141 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 119.2587 [automat-] 119.7397 142 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 120.1431 Yes 120.4831 143 DCA_int_01 120.6833 And [also the] first choice for 122.0754 144 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 120.9292 [and] 121.2795 145 DCA_int_01 124.1211 What position? Did you use all positions? 126.0853 146 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 126.9386 As many boys as we had. 128.1950 147 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 128.1950 (pause 0.42) 128.6114 148 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 128.6114 Sometimes we didn't have eighteen boys we'd have 130.4283 149 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 130.4283 (pause 0.15) 130.5803 150 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 130.5803 ten or 131.1129 151 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 131.1129 (pause 0.13) 131.2446 152 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 131.2446 five or six or- whatever amount of boys we had we just play with w- whatever we had. 134.6785 153 DCA_int_01 135.4363 Was there any certain positions you left out if you didn't have enough? 138.2685 154 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 140.0546 Any certain positions we left out if we didn't have enough- nine players? 143.4375 155 DCA_int_01 143.3554 Yeah suppose you had only s- 144.6363 156 DCA_int_01 144.7271 seven or eight players. 145.8967 157 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 146.0549 Well we'd always have a pitcher, a catcher, 147.5421 158 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 147.5421 (pause 0.20) 147.7439 159 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 147.7439 a first baseman, 148.6558 160 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 148.6558 (pause 0.51) 149.1686 161 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 149.1686 second baseman, 150.0901 162 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 150.0901 (pause 0.50) 150.5932 163 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 150.5932 /a third ba-/ well, 151.4857 164 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 151.4857 (pause 0.15) 151.6337 165 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 151.6337 at least five men 152.4853 166 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 152.4853 (pause 0.21) 152.6989 167 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 152.6989 we'd have 153.1824 168 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 153.1824 (pause 0.03) 153.2134 169 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 153.2134 you know like that. 153.8737 170 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 153.8737 (pause 0.49) 154.3659 171 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 154.3659 Then we'd just uh 155.4504 172 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 155.4504 (pause 0.08) 155.5345 173 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 155.5345 w- well the 156.1643 174 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 156.1643 (pause 0.04) 156.2068 175 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 156.2068 infielders go in the outfield or something like that. 157.7810 176 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 157.7810 (pause 2.02) 159.7967 177 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 159.7967 But we leave the outfield 160.8350 178 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 160.8350 (pause 0.67) 161.5015 179 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 161.5015 more or less spacey. 162.5179 180 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 162.5179 (pause 1.47) 163.9881 181 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 163.9881 Who could hit the ball that far you know [] 166.8877 182 DCA_int_01 165.1286 [] 166.4405 183 DCA_int_01 167.3819 Is it hardball you play or [softball?] 169.2380 184 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 168.8799 [Softball] mostly. 169.7830 185 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 170.4568 At ten or eleven like that. 171.4976 186 DCA_int_01 171.7854 Yeah. 172.1410 187 DCA_int_01 172.1410 (pause 1.38) 173.5246 188 DCA_int_01 173.5246 Uh 173.7946 189 DCA_int_01 173.7946 (pause 1.17) 174.9671 190 DCA_int_01 174.9671 did you- 175.5302 191 DCA_int_01 175.5302 (pause 0.49) 176.0236 192 DCA_int_01 176.0236 Where did you play football? 177.3355 193 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 178.0205 Well we lived in the Northeast section of Washington 179.9746 194 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 179.9746 (pause 0.57) 180.5406 195 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 180.5406 and we had plenty of fields out there. 181.8332 196 DCA_int_01 181.8412 Oh you actually got- got to play out in the grass? 184.2292 197 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 184.2063 Oh yes, plenty of fields. 185.4007 198 DCA_int_01 185.7193 Did you ever play tackle? 186.8773 199 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 187.2560 Oh yes, 187.7671 200 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 187.7671 (pause 0.64) 188.4085 201 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 188.4085 tackle, 188.7984 202 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 188.7984 (pause 0.19) 188.9884 203 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 188.9884 touch, 189.5370 204 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 189.5370 (pause 1.85) 191.3821 205 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 191.3821 depends on the 192.1411 206 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 192.1411 (pause 0.62) 192.7627 207 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 192.7627 you know the ground 193.6277 208 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 193.6277 (pause 0.10) 193.7232 209 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 193.7232 and the 194.3675 210 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 194.3675 (pause 0.13) 194.4945 211 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 194.4945 playmates, some wanna play tackle or some wanna play touch so. 196.6213 212 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 196.6213 (pause 0.45) 197.0677 213 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 197.0677 You have most wanna play touch, you play touch, you wanna- 198.8137 214 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 198.8137 (pause 0.21) 199.0264 215 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 199.0264 most wanna tackle, 199.7266 216 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 199.7266 (pause 0.07) 199.8010 217 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 199.8010 tackle. 200.2334 218 DCA_int_01 200.2614 Mm-hm. 200.7778 219 DCA_int_01 200.7778 (pause 0.87) 201.6500 220 DCA_int_01 201.6500 Oh good. 202.1703 221 DCA_int_01 202.1703 (pause 0.71) 202.8786 222 DCA_int_01 202.8786 Did you ever play any games where kids- 204.6883 223 DCA_int_01 204.6883 (pause 0.09) 204.7760 224 DCA_int_01 204.7760 kids had to chase each other? 206.2527 225 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 206.7246 Oh tag? 207.4081 226 DCA_int_01 207.6810 Yeah, [did you play tag?] 208.7415 227 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 208.0532 [Yeah.] 208.5534 228 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 208.7461 Oh sure. 209.2102 229 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 209.2102 (pause 0.60) 209.8060 230 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 209.8060 Follow the leader, 210.5974 231 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 210.5974 (pause 0.39) 210.9868 232 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 210.9868 things like that. 211.6370 233 DCA_int_01 212.0993 How does tag work? 212.9342 234 DCA_int_01 212.9342 (pause 0.27) 213.2070 235 DCA_int_01 213.2070 There's different ways of playing it, how did you play it? 215.5479 236 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 215.8651 Well, 216.1696 237 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 216.1696 (pause 0.22) 216.3887 238 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 216.3887 tag we just um 217.3723 239 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 217.3723 (pause 1.69) 219.0615 240 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 219.0615 How did we play it? 219.8008 241 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 219.8008 (pause 0.23) 220.0339 242 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 220.0339 [It's been a long time ] 221.1494 243 DCA_int_01 220.0562 [] 220.9325 244 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 222.5141 Let me see as I 223.4837 245 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 223.4837 (pause 0.12) 223.6066 246 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 223.6066 remember it, we just uh 224.9010 247 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 224.9010 (pause 1.30) 226.2038 248 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 226.2038 somebody was it 226.8902 249 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 226.8902 (pause 0.22) 227.1124 250 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 227.1124 and then uh you had to 227.9970 251 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 227.9970 (pause 0.14) 228.1363 252 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 228.1363 catch somebody, tag them to make them it, 229.7174 253 DCA_int_01 229.9097 Mm-hm. 230.3393 254 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 230.3505 and whoever was tagged last that was it until they could tag someone else. 233.0191 255 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 233.0191 (pause 0.43) 233.4452 256 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 233.4452 A matter of running and tagging. 234.4773 257 DCA_int_01 234.6308 Mm-hm. 234.9958 258 DCA_int_01 234.9958 (pause 0.79) 235.7831 259 DCA_int_01 235.7831 Okay the first 236.4665 260 DCA_int_01 236.4665 (pause 0.74) 237.2083 261 DCA_int_01 237.2083 person that was it, how /did they decide to be/- 239.4838 262 DCA_int_01 239.4838 (pause 0.22) 239.7085 263 DCA_int_01 239.7085 when you were just starting out for the [/day/?] 241.2572 264 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 240.8080 [Now this I] don't remember. 241.9036 265 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 242.2446 I really don't remember. 243.1689 266 DCA_int_01 244.0156 Don't remember any rhymes they might have used? 246.2597 267 DCA_int_01 246.2597 (pause 0.85) 247.1114 268 DCA_int_01 247.1114 Didn't they use rhymes? 248.6303 269 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 248.6793 No, 249.1129 270 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 249.1129 (pause 0.10) 249.2132 271 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 249.2132 I can't think of any off hand. 250.4027 272 DCA_int_01 250.5803 Mm-hm. 250.9993 273 DCA_int_01 250.9993 (pause 1.15) 252.1491 274 DCA_int_01 252.1491 Good. 252.5932 275 DCA_int_01 252.5932 (pause 0.79) 253.3876 276 DCA_int_01 253.3876 Do you watch television? 254.3151 277 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 254.7629 I, personally yes. 255.8845 278 DCA_int_01 255.9498 Very much? What's your favorite show? 257.6746 279 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 258.3217 Baseball, actually [] 260.6828 280 DCA_int_01 259.4601 [Oh you watch baseball?] 260.6321 281 DCA_int_01 261.3311 Follow the Senators? 262.2782 282 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 262.5112 Now I do. 263.0161 283 DCA_int_01 264.6008 My wife does too. 265.7966 284 DCA_int_01 265.7966 (pause 0.87) 266.6617 285 DCA_int_01 266.6617 We're from Chicago and 267.9105 286 DCA_int_01 267.9105 (pause 0.13) 268.0426 287 DCA_int_01 268.0426 I follow the White Sox and my wife has already left us. 270.7519 288 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 270.7038 Yeah well in Washington on television mostly you see is [Washington, that's about]- 274.2029 289 DCA_int_01 272.9638 [Yeah that's what I was gonna say.] 274.3842 290 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 274.4005 yeah. 274.7607 291 DCA_int_01 276.6055 What do you think of 277.5648 292 DCA_int_01 277.5648 (pause 0.13) 277.6980 293 DCA_int_01 277.6980 Frank Howard? 278.5747 294 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 279.0256 I think [he's] 279.9981 295 DCA_int_01 279.4098 [/presently/] 280.6344 296 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 280.7268 Well I think as he says he's a streak hitter 282.4758 297 DCA_int_01 282.4872 Mm. 282.9194 298 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 282.8674 and think this will uh, you know cool down, 284.7365 299 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 284.8098 I don't think he'll continue it. 285.8497 300 DCA_int_01 286.0371 Mm-hm. 286.6858 301 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 287.2758 I think he'll have a pretty good average 288.3742 302 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 288.3742 (pause 0.04) 288.4142 303 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 288.4142 at the end of [the season.] 289.1845 304 DCA_int_01 288.7412 [/??/] 289.1374 305 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 289.4121 Yes. 289.6962 306 DCA_int_01 290.8568 What do you think his chances of taking the home run 292.8247 307 DCA_int_01 292.8247 (pause 0.86) 293.6851 308 DCA_int_01 293.6851 leadership? 294.2796 309 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 294.5495 Sixty one or better. 295.4780 310 DCA_int_01 296.1325 No not that, but I mean the [/inaudible/.] 298.0622 311 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 297.0426 Oh you mean the [/?/ season?] 298.0413 312 DCA_int_01 298.0622 Yeah. 298.2245 313 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 298.2001 No I think it's very good. 299.0816 314 DCA_int_01 300.2791 Is he way out front now? 301.6772 315 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 301.6545 Yes 302.7482 316 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 302.8449 plus he's a strong boy. 304.0174 317 DCA_int_01 306.1273 Who would you say is the best all around 308.0255 318 DCA_int_01 308.0255 (pause 0.13) 308.1604 319 DCA_int_01 308.1604 player on the Senators? 309.3688 320 DCA_int_01 309.3688 (pause 1.28) 310.6536 321 DCA_int_01 310.6536 [All around.] 311.4808 322 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 310.8257 [All around] player on the Senators? 312.7228 323 DCA_int_01 312.5947 You know defensive, [offensive.] 314.5053 324 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 314.3835 [Well I] have to agree with the uh vote that they took in Washington uh 317.0828 325 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 317.2851 during the Winter, be Paul Casanova the best all around athlete. 319.7360 326 DCA_int_01 320.0183 Mm-hm. 320.5466 327 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 320.5386 But so far this year he hasn't uh 322.5370 328 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 322.8506 you know 323.2381 329 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 323.2381 (pause 0.45) 323.6914 330 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 323.6914 added up to his potential. 324.8315 331 DCA_int_01 326.9980 Nobody he steals many bases on him. 329.2696 332 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 329.2231 That's for sure. 329.9294 333 DCA_int_01 329.9154 I can remember that from White Sox playing the Senators. 332.8331 334 DCA_int_01 333.8974 The time they tried to steal his /??/ 336.6107 335 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 335.9104 Oh he's as good defensively this [year] 337.5714 336 DCA_int_01 337.3141 [Yeah.] 337.4819 337 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 337.7034 as he has been 338.5800 338 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 338.5800 (pause 0.18) 338.7599 339 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 338.7599 uh y- oh, you know for the last year. 340.2566 340 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 340.2566 (pause 0.36) 340.6130 341 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 340.6130 But he just hasn't 341.3836 342 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 341.3836 (pause 0.18) 341.5614 343 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 341.5614 start hitting yet 342.6049 344 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 342.6049 (pause 0.40) 343.0021 345 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 343.0021 that's all. 343.5704 346 DCA_int_01 346.3251 Who do you think the steadiest pitcher is? 348.1203 347 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 348.6929 The steadiest? 349.6734 348 DCA_int_01 350.4835 The one who's gonna win most games. 352.0007 349 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 352.3429 Pascual. 352.8055 350 DCA_int_01 353.3768 Think so? 353.9072 351 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 353.8891 I think so. 354.5145 352 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 355.9620 I think he's uh- 356.9378 353 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 356.9378 (pause 0.17) 357.1040 354 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 357.1040 above the rest and then Joe Coleman I give him a chance, he's 359.5102 355 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 359.5102 (pause 0.71) 360.2177 356 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 360.2177 very good. 360.5991 357 DCA_int_01 361.7544 Is this his first season or 363.0480 358 DCA_int_01 363.0480 (pause 0.16) 363.2031 359 DCA_int_01 363.2031 second? 363.6544 360 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 363.6513 Uh Coleman? Second full season. 365.4174 361 DCA_int_01 368.6259 Think they'll- 369.2785 362 DCA_int_01 369.2785 (pause 0.52) 369.7998 363 DCA_int_01 369.7998 think they'll finish higher than the cellar? 371.5423 364 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 371.9928 Yes. [] 374.3018 365 DCA_int_01 372.6266 [Yeah they really ought to ] 374.7716 366 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 374.8636 I think they're 375.5640 367 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 375.5640 (pause 0.57) 376.1337 368 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 376.1337 much better than a cellar team. 377.3863 369 DCA_int_01 377.5959 Yeah, sure. 378.7046 370 DCA_int_01 378.7046 (pause 1.43) 380.1371 371 DCA_int_01 380.1371 You have any ideas who's gonna be the pennant winner in the American League? 383.2225 372 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 384.3392 Ah we have a pretty good race there. 386.5042 373 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 386.5042 (pause 0.15) 386.6563 374 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 386.6563 I don't know. 387.4249 375 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 387.4249 (pause 1.66) 389.0856 376 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 389.0856 I have an idea who's gonna win it 390.4383 377 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 390.4383 (pause 0.06) 390.4943 378 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 390.4943 I mean I think it's between Minnesota, 391.8889 379 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 391.8889 (pause 0.14) 392.0312 380 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 392.0312 Detroit and Baltimore. 393.1237 381 DCA_int_01 393.3078 Mm-hm. 393.9361 382 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 394.6724 [Two of those.] 395.2207 383 DCA_int_01 394.7765 [I think] Cleveland's gonna stick it out. 396.4237 384 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 396.6136 No. 397.2042 385 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 397.2042 (pause 0.51) 397.7141 386 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 397.7141 Not Cleveland. 398.4586 387 DCA_int_01 398.4492 399.1748 388 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 398.7385 No. 399.7501 389 DCA_int_01 400.2540 Most of the experts would agree with you. 402.1493 390 DCA_int_01 402.1493 (pause 1.11) 403.2596 391 DCA_int_01 403.2596 What else do you watch on [TV] bes- 404.8964 392 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 404.1800 [/Care for one?/] 404.7163 393 DCA_int_01 405.0484 no thanks 405.6327 394 DCA_int_01 405.6327 (pause 0.69) 406.3210 395 DCA_int_01 406.3210 besides baseball? 407.1454 396 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 407.4390 Well I like uh 408.5315 397 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 408.5315 (pause 0.30) 408.8317 398 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 408.8317 some variety shows, Dean Martin I 410.6125 399 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 410.6125 (pause 0.29) 410.8996 400 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 410.8996 like his show very much. 412.0294 401 DCA_int_01 413.5968 Are there any um 414.2891 402 DCA_int_01 414.2891 (pause 0.10) 414.3892 403 DCA_int_01 414.3892 adventure stories or stories that you watch? 417.2046 404 DCA_int_01 417.2046 (pause 1.79) 418.9983 405 DCA_int_01 418.9983 Like Mannix or? 420.3073 406 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 421.6075 [Well actually I don't sit down and look] at TV that often. 424.3890 407 DCA_int_01 421.7210 [/inaudible/] 423.3222 408 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 425.2294 You said do I watch TV, yes 426.6861 409 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 426.6861 (pause 0.06) 426.7501 410 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 426.7501 but uh 427.3024 411 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 427.3024 (pause 0.21) 427.5104 412 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 427.5104 uh habitually just sit there in front of the box no I don't. 430.1599 413 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 430.1599 (pause 0.22) 430.3800 414 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 430.3800 431.2444 415 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 431.2444 (pause 0.08) 431.3284 416 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 431.3284 I watched- 432.0648 417 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 432.0648 (pause 0.09) 432.1530 418 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 432.1530 I have watched Mannix 433.4857 419 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 433.4857 (pause 0.14) 433.6257 420 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 433.6257 but not 434.0019 421 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 434.0019 (pause 0.30) 434.3060 422 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 434.3060 to any great degree. 435.2345 423 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 435.2345 (pause 0.90) 436.1311 424 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 436.1311 And uh 436.9212 425 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 436.9212 (pause 0.05) 436.9751 426 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 436.9751 Big Valley 437.7308 427 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 437.7308 (pause 0.08) 437.8119 428 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 437.8119 I've seen that quite a few times. 439.3406 429 DCA_int_01 439.3061 Mm-hm. 439.8303 430 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 441.2790 [And] 442.0017 431 DCA_int_01 441.2790 [Can-] 441.8832 432 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 442.1794 /Pardon?/ 442.6036 433 DCA_int_01 442.9317 Can you remember a certain um 444.5205 434 DCA_int_01 444.5205 (pause 0.35) 444.8729 435 DCA_int_01 444.8729 episode of The Big Valley that struck you that you could tell about? 448.3305 436 DCA_int_01 448.3305 (pause 0.46) 448.7869 437 DCA_int_01 448.7869 See we're interested in getting 450.0409 438 DCA_int_01 450.0409 (pause 0.86) 450.9051 439 DCA_int_01 450.9051 story 451.5974 440 DCA_int_01 451.5974 (pause 0.16) 451.7535 441 DCA_int_01 451.7535 lines that people have found interesting so can you tell 454.9992 442 DCA_int_01 454.9992 (pause 1.14) 456.1358 443 DCA_int_01 456.1358 one of those that you recall? 457.6378 444 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 460.1926 Hm well, 461.1090 445 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 461.1090 (pause 0.26) 461.3651 446 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 461.3651 only vaguely. 462.2095 447 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 462.2095 (pause 0.28) 462.4857 448 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 462.4857 I remember one where it was uh this 464.5624 449 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 464.5624 (pause 0.94) 465.5020 450 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 465.5020 uh adopted son of theirs 466.8987 451 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 466.8987 (pause 0.66) 467.5630 452 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 467.5630 was at a great quandary about who was his father, what his father was or something like that 471.1722 453 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 471.1722 (pause 0.48) 471.6518 454 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 471.6518 and it seemed that some woman in some 473.1405 455 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 473.1405 (pause 0.19) 473.3286 456 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 473.3286 distant town from where they live 474.6812 457 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 474.6812 (pause 0.43) 475.1149 458 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 475.1149 had some information pertaining to this 477.0558 459 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 477.0558 (pause 0.45) 477.5028 460 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 477.5028 and uh 478.3068 461 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 478.3068 (pause 0.42) 478.7313 462 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 478.7313 it was a big to-do about it but finally it worked out 480.9287 463 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 480.9287 (pause 0.14) 481.0724 464 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 481.0724 pretty well. 481.5412 465 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 481.5412 (pause 0.52) 482.0600 466 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 482.0600 And I'll say it's not- very vague- it's not very clear 483.9447 467 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 483.9447 (pause 0.12) 484.0648 468 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 484.0648 but I remember that particular episo- 485.5174 469 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 485.5174 (pause 0.06) 485.5735 470 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 485.5735 episode. 486.0951 471 DCA_int_01 486.3378 Did you like that one? 487.2724 472 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 487.5386 Well I thought it was [interesting] 488.5472 473 DCA_int_01 488.0668 [Good story?] 488.7471 474 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 488.6471 yes. 489.0128 475 DCA_int_01 489.1673 Interesting. 489.7156 476 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 489.7446 One finding his heritage you know and 491.5725 477 DCA_int_01 491.5524 Yeah. 491.8326 478 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 491.7966 who it is and 492.4322 479 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 492.4984 what and why and so forth and so. 493.9851 480 DCA_int_01 494.6996 That's good. 495.2380 481 DCA_int_01 495.2380 (pause 1.01) 496.2443 482 DCA_int_01 496.2443 How about movies, do you go to movies? 498.2732 483 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 499.2072 Well 499.7474 484 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 499.7474 (pause 0.08) 499.8270 485 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 499.8270 not very often. 500.8269 486 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 500.8269 (pause 0.57) 501.4002 487 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 501.4002 The last one I saw was Valley of the Dolls. 503.0369 488 DCA_int_01 503.4454 What was that about? 504.5942 489 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 505.6384 Well the dolls themselves were 507.3363 490 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 507.3363 (pause 0.27) 507.6035 491 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 507.6035 dope 507.8882 492 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 507.8882 (pause 0.16) 508.0437 493 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 508.0437 tablets you know 508.7838 494 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 508.7838 (pause 0.22) 509.0034 495 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 509.0034 pills like that 509.8325 496 DCA_int_01 509.6765 I 510.1191 497 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 510.2727 and uh 511.0678 498 DCA_int_01 510.8930 haven't [seen that.] 511.5933 499 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 511.1852 [it was] 511.6155 500 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 511.6989 these girls were 512.8062 501 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 512.8062 (pause 2.15) 514.9526 502 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 514.9526 at various times 516.1011 503 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 516.1011 (pause 0.06) 516.1587 504 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 516.1587 wrapped up in them 517.0725 505 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 517.0725 (pause 0.15) 517.2217 506 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 517.2217 and they 517.8007 507 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 517.8007 (pause 0.07) 517.8740 508 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 517.8740 affected- the dolls, the pills 519.3890 509 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 519.3890 (pause 0.18) 519.5682 510 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 519.5682 affected their lives 520.5767 511 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 520.5767 (pause 0.56) 521.1369 512 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 521.1369 very much, 521.7450 513 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 521.7450 (pause 0.32) 522.0622 514 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 522.0622 very much. 522.5802 515 DCA_int_01 524.0865 What happened to them? 524.9254 516 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 525.5832 What happened to them? 526.2996 517 DCA_int_01 526.2996 Yeah. 526.7158 518 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 526.6357 One finally committed suicide, 528.2856 519 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 529.1959 one 529.6298 520 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 529.6298 (pause 0.25) 529.8762 521 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 529.8762 I think 530.5912 522 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 530.5912 (pause 0.08) 530.6725 523 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 530.6725 was going 531.3982 524 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 531.3982 (pause 0.10) 531.4969 525 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 531.4969 off her rocker at the end of the picture, 533.2217 526 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 533.2217 (pause 0.41) 533.6341 527 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 533.6341 and the other one 534.4465 528 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 534.4465 (pause 0.07) 534.5145 529 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 534.5145 straightened up and 535.6233 530 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 535.6233 (pause 0.52) 536.1393 531 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 536.1393 presumably 536.6891 532 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 536.6891 (pause 0.08) 536.7728 533 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 536.7728 lived happily ever after. 537.9363 534 DCA_int_01 538.0804 Mm-hm. 538.6928 535 DCA_int_01 538.6928 (pause 2.01) 540.7016 536 DCA_int_01 540.7016 Do you- do you remember what 541.9142 537 DCA_int_01 541.9142 (pause 0.28) 542.1983 538 DCA_int_01 542.1983 happened in between? 543.4551 539 DCA_int_01 543.4551 (pause 1.30) 544.7517 540 DCA_int_01 544.7517 This a plot line or 545.9538 541 DCA_int_01 545.9538 (pause 0.14) 546.0938 542 DCA_int_01 546.0938 anything? 546.7061 543 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 547.3809 Well one was a- 548.3097 544 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 548.3097 (pause 0.72) 549.0327 545 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 549.0327 the one that is- 549.6469 546 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 549.6469 (pause 0.24) 549.8851 547 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 549.8851 uh wound up 550.5814 548 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 550.5814 (pause 0.25) 550.8295 549 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 550.8295 uh 551.3374 550 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 551.3374 (pause 0.26) 551.6019 551 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 551.6019 going insane 552.3754 552 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 552.3754 (pause 0.79) 553.1686 553 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 553.1686 she was a famous movie actress. 554.4269 554 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 554.4269 (pause 0.85) 555.2745 555 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 555.2745 So uh most of it was 556.4030 556 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 556.4030 (pause 0.06) 556.4591 557 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 556.4591 through- 556.8748 558 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 556.8748 (pause 0.27) 557.1434 559 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 557.1434 about her life and 558.3842 560 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 558.3842 (pause 0.16) 558.5400 561 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 558.5400 what she went through to start, 559.9521 562 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 559.9521 (pause 0.36) 560.3171 563 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 560.3171 what she went through, 561.3055 564 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 561.3055 (pause 0.08) 561.3856 565 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 561.3856 why she was, 562.3579 566 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 562.3579 (pause 0.23) 562.5849 567 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 562.5849 and her final collapse. 563.9084 568 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 563.9084 (pause 0.98) 564.8868 569 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 564.8868 Another one was um 566.0479 570 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 566.0479 (pause 0.72) 566.7643 571 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 566.7643 she was sort of in the 567.8339 572 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 567.8339 (pause 0.72) 568.5561 573 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 568.5561 show business 569.2789 574 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 569.2789 (pause 0.67) 569.9445 575 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 569.9445 but more or less was a model, 571.2854 576 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 571.2854 (pause 0.63) 571.9136 577 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 571.9136 she had a mother that always made her breasts- had to be s- you know a certain way and everything else, 576.1876 578 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 576.1876 (pause 0.40) 576.5908 579 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 576.5908 and she wound up doing uh nudey pictures in France for some guy, 579.5081 580 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 579.5081 (pause 0.47) 579.9778 581 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 579.9778 and she married some 581.1446 582 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 581.1446 (pause 0.25) 581.3945 583 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 581.3945 fella who was a 582.1068 584 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 582.1068 (pause 0.21) 582.3149 585 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 582.3149 promising singer 583.1363 586 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 583.1363 (pause 0.67) 583.8076 587 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 583.8076 and he had some disease 584.9483 588 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 584.9483 (pause 0.13) 585.0736 589 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 585.0736 so we- he was institutionalized 586.9675 590 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 586.9675 (pause 0.44) 587.4042 591 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 587.4042 and she went overseas and start making these pictures. 589.2691 592 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 589.2691 (pause 0.97) 590.2390 593 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 590.2390 And uh finally she came back and 592.4754 594 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 592.4754 (pause 1.07) 593.5460 595 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 593.5460 things didn't go too well for her and she's the one that finally committed suicide. 596.8461 596 DCA_int_01 596.9198 Hm. 597.3508 597 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 597.9883 The other girl, she started out from a 599.7530 598 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 599.7530 (pause 0.09) 599.8451 599 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 599.8451 little town in Connecticut, 600.9060 600 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 600.9060 (pause 1.09) 601.9916 601 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 601.9916 went to New York, 602.6519 602 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 602.6519 (pause 0.24) 602.8920 603 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 602.8920 and got this um 604.0196 604 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 604.0196 (pause 1.36) 605.3839 605 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 605.3839 a job with a 606.2643 606 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 606.2643 (pause 0.16) 606.4284 607 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 606.4284 legal firm. 607.0763 608 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 607.0763 (pause 0.91) 607.9881 609 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 607.9881 And she got involved emotionally with um 610.2535 610 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 610.2535 (pause 0.52) 610.7774 611 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 610.7774 one of the 611.3739 612 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 611.3739 (pause 1.08) 612.4516 613 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 612.4516 partners of the legal firm, 613.6533 614 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 613.6533 (pause 0.86) 614.5153 615 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 614.5153 and they had a 615.3124 616 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 615.3124 (pause 0.15) 615.4598 617 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 615.4598 set-to here and a set-to there and he had a set-to with the movie star and 618.8028 618 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 618.8028 (pause 0.48) 619.2830 619 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 619.2830 she finally- 620.1092 620 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 620.1092 (pause 0.86) 620.9680 621 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 620.9680 well she found out about the movie star and- 622.4127 622 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 622.4127 (pause 0.10) 622.5127 623 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 622.5127 and her 622.9713 624 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 622.9713 (pause 0.16) 623.1290 625 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 623.1290 friend, her fella, 624.0088 626 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 624.0088 (pause 0.54) 624.5528 627 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 624.5528 and she uh 625.3128 628 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 625.3128 (pause 0.41) 625.7184 629 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 625.7184 started taking the 626.4668 630 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 626.4668 (pause 0.25) 626.7189 631 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 626.7189 pills too. 627.3357 632 DCA_int_01 627.4793 Oh [no.] 628.0330 633 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 627.6833 [But she] finally straightened up 628.7936 634 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 628.8746 packed up and went back to Connecticut and she 630.5834 635 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 630.5834 (pause 0.07) 630.6569 636 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 630.6569 presu- she's the one pro- uh presumably hap- lived happily ever after. 633.4166 637 DCA_int_01 634.0387 Oh that's good. 634.9167 638 DCA_int_01 634.9167 (pause 1.21) 636.1308 639 DCA_int_01 636.1308 Is there one movie that you would call the best one you've ever seen? 639.1051 640 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 641.9506 Uh well, 642.7778 641 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 642.7778 (pause 2.12) 644.8947 642 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 644.8947 saw quite a few I remember very well. 646.6330 643 DCA_int_01 646.8238 Mm-hm. 647.4881 644 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 647.7243 It was Gone With the Wind was a very good one, 649.4396 645 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 649.4396 (pause 0.76) 650.2029 646 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 650.2029 Shane was a very good one. 651.6135 647 DCA_int_01 652.5907 Yeah I saw that I was- 653.9172 648 DCA_int_01 653.9172 (pause 0.63) 654.5451 649 DCA_int_01 654.5451 it was quite a while ago did they revive it or 656.7554 650 DCA_int_01 656.7554 (pause 0.15) 656.9022 651 DCA_int_01 656.9022 was it [/a revival/] 658.1228 652 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 657.1305 [It- well it was on] TV not too long ago. 659.1274 653 DCA_int_01 658.7633 /Oh yeah./ 659.3568 654 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 659.7570 Um. 660.5102 655 DCA_int_01 660.8737 What was it about? I don't remember too much about it. 663.1348 656 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 663.5390 Well I don't remember too well either it's a 665.1687 657 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 665.1687 (pause 0.14) 665.3133 658 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 665.3133 Western 665.9257 659 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 665.9257 (pause 0.30) 666.2297 660 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 666.2297 picture. 666.6739 661 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 666.6739 (pause 0.34) 667.0141 662 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 667.0141 He was a 667.6744 663 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 667.6744 (pause 0.58) 668.2546 664 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 668.2546 you know 668.5948 665 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 668.5948 (pause 0.59) 669.1873 666 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 669.1873 cowboy. 669.7155 667 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 669.7155 (pause 0.72) 670.4319 668 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 670.4319 /All in that/ 670.8801 669 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 670.8801 (pause 0.09) 670.9681 670 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 670.9681 order. 671.4202 671 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 671.4202 (pause 0.23) 671.6539 672 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 671.6539 and it all takes place in Western towns and 674.0982 673 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 674.0982 (pause 0.49) 674.5913 674 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 674.5913 fast with the gun, and 675.8158 675 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 675.8158 (pause 0.18) 675.9974 676 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 675.9974 hard 676.5663 677 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 676.5663 (pause 0.29) 676.8578 678 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 676.8578 fighter and 677.6742 679 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 677.6742 (pause 0.47) 678.1464 680 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 678.1464 nice guy all the way around you know he was a 680.1313 681 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 680.1313 (pause 0.32) 680.4557 682 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 680.4557 good guy, lot of the 681.5120 683 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 681.5120 (pause 0.07) 681.5802 684 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 681.5802 people were bad guys [in the West those days ] like most Westerns I mean, 685.2421 685 DCA_int_01 682.3313 [] 683.8520 686 DCA_int_01 683.8520 (pause 1.04) 684.8900 687 DCA_int_01 684.8900 Yeah. 685.3422 688 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 686.6935 not a real thick plot. 687.7020 689 DCA_int_01 688.1117 Yeah. 688.6002 690 DCA_int_01 688.6002 (pause 1.16) 689.7564 691 DCA_int_01 689.7564 Good. 690.2352 692 DCA_int_01 690.2352 (pause 1.08) 691.3113 693 DCA_int_01 691.3113 Have you ever had a 691.9910 694 DCA_int_01 691.9910 (pause 0.34) 692.3271 695 DCA_int_01 692.3271 a pet? 693.1877 696 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 693.8118 I, a pet? 694.8901 697 DCA_int_01 693.9128 /unintelligible/ yeah. 695.2207 698 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 696.1559 As a boy we had dogs, yes. 697.8509 699 DCA_int_01 699.0772 What- 699.3486 700 DCA_int_01 699.3486 (pause 0.20) 699.5494 701 DCA_int_01 699.5494 what did you do with them? 700.5929 702 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 701.6144 What did we do with them? 702.5108 703 DCA_int_01 702.4590 Mm-hm. 703.0076 704 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 704.5600 [Nothing but play with them.] 705.8559 705 DCA_int_01 704.5920 [How did you take care of them?] 705.9952 706 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 706.2527 No my father took care of them 707.3476 707 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 707.3476 (pause 0.45) 707.7977 708 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 707.7977 f- mo- f- f- mother or father. 709.3184 709 DCA_int_01 709.2944 Mm-hm. 709.7746 710 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 710.3216 And I just played with 'em 711.4528 711 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 711.4528 (pause 0.37) 711.8250 712 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 711.8250 Ran and 712.6094 713 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 712.6094 (pause 0.50) 713.1056 714 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 713.1056 swimming hole with 'em and [you know] baseball and 715.5713 715 DCA_int_01 714.3157 [Oh.] 715.0064 716 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 715.9324 like that. 716.3046 717 DCA_int_01 716.6487 Did they actually go in the water? 718.0328 718 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 718.6259 Well, [yes] 719.3453 719 DCA_int_01 718.8420 [/Yeah/]] 719.3982 720 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 719.3902 dogs go in the water sure. 722.0194 721 DCA_int_01 722.3783 Not too often then, I don't recall ever seeing dogs in the water very often. 726.3949 722 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 726.4190 Oh yes. 726.9443 723 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 726.9443 (pause 0.46) 727.4036 724 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 727.4036 Dogs go in the water. 728.1989 725 DCA_int_01 728.1640 Hm. 728.5882 726 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 728.6522 You get to laughing and playing, went 729.8728 727 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 729.8728 (pause 0.08) 729.9488 728 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 729.9488 old swimming hole out in Maryland, 731.2157 729 DCA_int_01 731.3817 /??/ 732.0258 730 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 731.5658 not far from the District line 732.6992 731 DCA_int_01 732.9359 Mm-hm. 733.3241 732 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 733.4121 and they- we'd go out there and jump in the hole and 735.2000 733 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 735.2000 (pause 0.05) 735.2530 734 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 735.2530 they'd 735.5171 735 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 735.5171 (pause 0.03) 735.5491 736 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 735.5491 splash in the water, 736.6100 737 DCA_int_01 736.7937 Mm-hm. 737.1979 738 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 737.1018 you know shake it all over you, 738.1192 739 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 738.2186 you think you dried off and they 739.4559 740 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 739.4559 (pause 0.11) 739.5632 741 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 739.5632 make sure you 740.2155 742 DCA_int_01 740.0834 741.5463 743 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 740.2955 wet again. 741.6031 744 DCA_int_01 742.3832 That's pretty good, were they mixed breed dogs or were they mostly 745.2646 745 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 745.5797 Well one was a bull and the other one was uh just a 747.4837 746 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 747.4837 (pause 0.64) 748.1208 747 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 748.1208 mongrel, you know 748.9568 748 DCA_int_01 748.8012 Mm-hm. 749.3180 749 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 749.3454 just another dog just a dog that's all. 750.9128 750 DCA_int_01 751.9749 They ever do anything amusing or 753.5956 751 DCA_int_01 753.5956 (pause 0.85) 754.4440 752 DCA_int_01 754.4440 funny that [you remember?] 755.5765 753 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 754.9162 [The most amusing] thing was the 756.3219 754 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 756.4411 bulldog you know he's kind of big and mean, 758.0779 755 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 758.0779 (pause 0.09) 758.1699 756 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 758.1699 and the other little mongrel he was a 759.5949 757 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 759.5949 (pause 0.09) 759.6894 758 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 759.6894 I don't know what he was just a 760.5471 759 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 760.5471 (pause 0.08) 760.6298 760 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 760.6298 mongrel 761.0260 761 DCA_int_01 761.0315 Mm-hm. 761.4611 762 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 761.4717 and he was a little thing 762.5682 763 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 762.5682 (pause 0.51) 763.0779 764 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 763.0779 he used to go out and pick all the fights in the neighborhood with the big dogs and the big dog had to come along and rescue him 768.0242 765 DCA_int_01 766.7704 No kidding. 768.7781 766 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 768.5905 It was- 768.8022 767 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 769.2435 So help me. 770.9911 768 DCA_int_01 769.9306 771.1395 769 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 771.3527 Go and fight everything in the neighborhood and the big dog have to come along and- 773.6898 770 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 773.6898 (pause 0.04) 773.7338 771 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 773.7338 and 774.0357 772 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 774.0357 (pause 0.29) 774.3208 773 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 774.3208 take him home. 774.8955 774 DCA_int_01 774.8666 /Gee whiz/ that's funny. You had them both at the same time? 777.7836 775 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 778.2576 Yeah both at the same time. 779.3981 776 DCA_int_01 780.3826 What'd you call 'em? 781.1097 777 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 781.9355 Jack was the bulldog, Raymond was the 783.5972 778 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 783.5972 (pause 0.13) 783.7244 779 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 783.7244 little dog. 784.2236 780 DCA_int_01 784.3314 Mm-hm. 784.9309 781 DCA_int_01 784.9309 (pause 0.68) 785.6094 782 DCA_int_01 785.6094 That's interesting. 786.4004 783 DCA_int_01 786.4004 (pause 0.78) 787.1822 784 DCA_int_01 787.1822 What did you study in school, say elementary school, you remember? 790.5557 785 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 791.9246 Reading, 792.4688 786 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 792.4688 (pause 0.06) 792.5249 787 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 792.5249 arithmetic um, 793.9175 788 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 793.9175 (pause 2.41) 796.3294 789 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 796.3294 well spelling, 797.1177 790 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 797.1177 (pause 2.95) 800.0648 791 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 800.0648 uh 801.4094 792 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 801.4094 (pause 0.09) 801.4975 793 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 801.4975 elementary school. 802.3579 794 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 802.3579 (pause 5.67) 808.0262 795 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 808.0262 I really don't know much further than that. 809.8430 796 DCA_int_01 810.4753 That's 810.8352 797 DCA_int_01 810.8352 (pause 0.38) 811.2157 798 DCA_int_01 811.2157 most of the basic subjects, huh? 812.7126 799 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 812.5565 Yeah. 812.9483 800 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 813.9051 Writing of course. 814.8235 801 DCA_int_01 814.7935 Mm. 815.1999 802 DCA_int_01 815.2978 Mm-hm. 815.6539 803 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 815.7820 Penmanship. 816.2982 804 DCA_int_01 818.1886 What about uh when you got to high school? 819.7458 805 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 822.1919 High school I had 822.9219 806 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 822.9219 (pause 0.23) 823.1566 807 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 823.1566 English, 823.9410 808 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 823.9410 (pause 0.76) 824.7013 809 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 824.7013 biology, 825.4603 810 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 825.4603 (pause 0.73) 826.1940 811 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 826.1940 Latin, 827.0691 812 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 827.0691 (pause 1.91) 828.9795 813 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 828.9795 Uh 829.6158 814 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 829.6158 (pause 0.33) 829.9440 815 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 829.9440 math, 830.4922 816 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 830.4922 (pause 1.44) 831.9369 817 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 831.9369 sociology, 832.7365 818 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 832.7365 (pause 4.22) 836.9597 819 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 836.9597 mm history, 838.4675 820 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 838.4675 (pause 2.35) 840.8214 821 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 840.8214 phys-ed, 841.4137 822 DCA_int_01 841.6498 Mm-hm. 842.0060 823 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 842.1781 uh, 842.9211 824 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 842.9211 (pause 1.65) 844.5714 825 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 844.5714 high school. 845.2437 826 DCA_int_01 846.4883 Well that's good enough. 847.5056 827 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 847.7011 That's about it. 848.3454 828 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 848.3454 (pause 0.95) 849.2978 829 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 849.2978 We had some chemistry, 850.2022 830 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 850.2022 (pause 0.12) 850.3263 831 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 850.3263 you know as you 850.7985 832 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 850.7985 (pause 0.26) 851.0546 833 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 851.0546 go from grade to grade you change from biology to chemistry like that. 853.5870 834 DCA_int_01 855.8198 What did the uh kids- let's go back to around 858.3249 835 DCA_int_01 858.3249 (pause 0.91) 859.2308 836 DCA_int_01 859.2308 ten years old or so again, what did the kids do after school? 861.9722 837 DCA_int_01 861.9722 (pause 0.92) 862.8900 838 DCA_int_01 862.8900 After school was out what would they do? 864.6455 839 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 866.5439 Huh 866.9285 840 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 866.9285 (pause 0.39) 867.3163 841 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 867.3163 not much 867.8142 842 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 867.8142 (pause 0.08) 867.8954 843 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 867.8954 just uh go home, 869.0811 844 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 869.0811 (pause 0.48) 869.5615 845 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 869.5615 change your clothes, get something to eat, 870.9099 846 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 870.9099 (pause 0.64) 871.5505 847 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 871.5505 go out and play. 872.1876 848 DCA_int_01 872.4469 Mm-hm what would they play? 873.8229 849 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 874.7522 Well anything you know 875.6846 850 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 875.6846 (pause 0.07) 875.7526 851 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 875.7526 skip rope um, 877.2973 852 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 877.2973 (pause 0.68) 877.9791 853 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 877.9791 well, 878.3942 854 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 878.3942 (pause 1.07) 879.4598 855 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 879.4598 uh baseball um, 880.7124 856 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 880.7124 (pause 0.84) 881.5528 857 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 881.5528 tag, anything you know. 882.7167 858 DCA_int_01 882.4987 Mm-hm. 882.9050 859 DCA_int_01 883.4271 Did you play their 884.2398 860 DCA_int_01 884.2398 (pause 0.84) 885.0799 861 DCA_int_01 885.0799 [kids games?] 885.8766 862 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 885.2615 [Mumblety-peg?] 885.8738 863 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 886.1299 Huh? 886.6676 864 DCA_int_01 886.7024 Did you play their kids games? 887.8562 865 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 887.7041 Play the kids games, yeah. 888.6525 866 DCA_int_01 888.5605 Mm-hm. 889.2608 867 DCA_int_01 890.3013 Good. 890.7333 868 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 891.9983 Cause we used to have uh girls with us we used to play dodgeball and 894.8355 869 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 894.8355 (pause 0.26) 895.0997 870 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 895.0997 as well as skip rope 895.9197 871 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 895.9197 (pause 0.07) 895.9921 872 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 895.9921 we used to- 896.4698 873 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 896.4698 (pause 0.06) 896.5299 874 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 896.5299 anything you know 897.2662 875 DCA_int_01 897.2622 Mm-hm. 897.5904 876 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 897.5664 just the girls do we did they- if we played ball, they played ball, so. 900.3600 877 DCA_int_01 900.6107 Mm. 901.0149 878 DCA_int_01 901.0149 (pause 1.04) 902.0554 879 DCA_int_01 902.0554 There weren't certain games that girls would play and boys wouldn't? 904.6749 880 DCA_int_01 904.6749 (pause 0.64) 905.3104 881 DCA_int_01 905.3104 Or were there? 905.9266 882 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 906.4229 Well you see the girls play more hopscotch or something like that 908.6574 883 DCA_int_01 908.7214 Mm-hm. 909.0776 884 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 909.0136 and the boys play more mumblety-peg, 910.2776 885 DCA_int_01 910.5118 Mm-hm. 910.9907 886 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 910.7799 but as far as uh 911.6274 887 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 912.2085 skipping the rope and 913.0397 888 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 913.0397 (pause 0.20) 913.2438 889 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 913.2438 dodgeball and 914.0801 890 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 914.0801 (pause 0.48) 914.5644 891 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 914.5644 tag and 915.2232 892 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 915.2232 (pause 0.18) 915.4048 893 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 915.4048 baseball 915.9416 894 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 915.9416 (pause 0.09) 916.0278 895 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 916.0278 like that, 916.3852 896 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 916.3852 (pause 0.42) 916.8041 897 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 916.8041 well boys played more football than the girls, 918.4920 898 DCA_int_01 918.2943 Mm-hm. 918.7863 899 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 918.8146 but the girls played baseball. 919.7042 900 DCA_int_01 919.8590 Mm. 920.1714 901 DCA_int_01 920.1714 (pause 0.84) 921.0118 902 DCA_int_01 921.0118 Hm. 921.4399 903 DCA_int_01 921.4399 (pause 0.21) 921.6521 904 DCA_int_01 921.6521 That's interesting. 922.4405 905 DCA_int_01 922.4405 (pause 1.06) 923.4969 906 DCA_int_01 923.4969 What about when you were a teenager, 925.0091 907 DCA_int_01 925.0091 (pause 0.22) 925.2272 908 DCA_int_01 925.2272 what would you do after school was out? 926.9680 909 DCA_int_01 926.9680 (pause 1.43) 928.3982 910 DCA_int_01 928.3982 High school. 929.2321 911 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 930.0589 Uh 930.7193 912 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 930.7193 (pause 0.64) 931.3598 913 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 931.3598 junior high you mean, 932.1011 914 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 932.1011 (pause 0.09) 932.1881 915 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 932.1881 or high school? 932.6804 916 DCA_int_01 932.6884 High school. 933.4634 917 DCA_int_01 933.4634 (pause 0.64) 934.1010 918 DCA_int_01 934.1010 I guess you were too old for tag and that but- 936.3345 919 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 936.1542 Yeah well 936.9814 920 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 937.2947 high school well 938.2752 921 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 938.2752 (pause 0.60) 938.8795 922 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 938.8795 uh the first year 939.8940 923 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 939.8940 (pause 0.13) 940.0200 924 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 940.0200 after school I drilled, 941.3160 925 DCA_int_01 942.4694 Drilled? 942.9621 926 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 943.0056 Yeah, 943.4058 927 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 943.4058 (pause 0.05) 943.4538 928 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 943.4538 cadet corps. 944.0664 929 DCA_int_01 944.3557 Oh. 944.7704 930 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 944.9520 Yeah. 945.3282 931 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 945.3282 (pause 0.40) 945.7283 932 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 945.7283 And uh when I got home it was uh time to 947.8544 933 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 947.8544 (pause 0.68) 948.5339 934 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 948.5339 get the uniform off and hit the books 950.1708 935 DCA_int_01 950.2587 [Mm-hm.] 950.9843 936 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 950.5028 [you know] 950.9381 937 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 951.0710 uh may have some chores to do you know something to do around the house 953.4321 938 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 953.4321 (pause 1.41) 954.8383 939 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 954.8383 and 955.4465 940 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 955.4465 (pause 1.27) 956.7206 941 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 956.7206 that was it, 957.2140 942 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 957.2140 (pause 0.23) 957.4449 943 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 957.4449 study, you know that's- 958.4454 944 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 958.4454 (pause 0.32) 958.7656 945 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 958.7656 that was it. 959.1705 946 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 959.1705 (pause 0.63) 959.7955 947 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 959.7955 Not too much uh 960.7098 948 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 960.7098 (pause 0.29) 961.0001 949 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 961.0001 play in the afternoons 961.9485 950 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 961.9485 (pause 0.42) 962.3702 951 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 962.3702 a- you know with drilling, 963.2106 952 DCA_int_01 963.5187 Mm-hm. 963.9829 953 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 963.9829 You don't get home from drill til around 965.2905 954 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 965.3758 oh five, something like that. 966.4643 955 DCA_int_01 967.3167 What was this cadet corps in connection with did you do regular drill or? 971.0304 956 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 971.8337 Well Washington, DC has this uh 973.3464 957 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 973.3464 (pause 0.33) 973.6786 958 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 973.6786 high school cadet corps. 974.5580 959 DCA_int_01 974.6991 Oh I didn't know they did. 975.6755 960 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 975.6795 Yeah and they um 976.6272 961 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 976.6272 (pause 0.74) 977.3645 962 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 977.3645 drilled same as um, 978.6518 963 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 978.6518 (pause 0.46) 979.1133 964 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 979.1133 it's sort of an ROTC. 980.1113 965 DCA_int_01 980.3619 Mm-hm. 980.7741 966 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 980.5980 You see in college ROTC, 981.8586 967 DCA_int_01 981.6680 Mm-hm. 982.0360 968 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 982.1362 it's something like that. 982.8575 969 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 982.8575 (pause 0.63) 983.4848 970 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 983.4848 you have uniforms, you have uh your captains, your lieutenants, your regular officers and everything, your flag 987.6122 971 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 987.6122 (pause 0.09) 987.7043 972 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 987.7043 sergeants and 988.5344 973 DCA_int_01 988.4716 Hm. 988.8558 974 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 988.9638 you take basic military training. 990.5660 975 DCA_int_01 990.7607 Hm. 991.1608 976 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 991.8011 You know your 992.3134 977 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 992.3134 (pause 0.06) 992.3694 978 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 992.3694 formations, your marching, your 994.1702 979 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 994.1702 (pause 1.68) 995.8472 980 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 995.8472 just 996.2318 981 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 996.2318 (pause 0.25) 996.4835 982 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 996.4835 regular 996.8877 983 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 996.8877 (pause 0.12) 997.0078 984 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 997.0078 basic 997.3679 985 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 997.3679 (pause 0.15) 997.5200 986 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 997.5200 military training. 998.2083 987 DCA_int_01 998.2764 Hm 998.6740 988 DCA_int_01 998.6740 (pause 0.21) 998.8809 989 DCA_int_01 998.8809 that's interesting, I was on a drill team in college that's how come I'm interested 1002.5065 990 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1002.5465 1003.1677 991 DCA_int_01 1003.1948 in that. 1003.6215 992 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1003.5220 Yeah we started in tenth grade. 1004.7225 993 DCA_int_01 1004.9906 Mm-hm. 1005.6176 994 DCA_int_01 1005.6176 (pause 0.48) 1006.0952 995 DCA_int_01 1006.0952 Did you do uh 1006.9398 996 DCA_int_01 1006.9398 (pause 0.80) 1007.7387 997 DCA_int_01 1007.7387 tricky stuff or was it just /the straight/ 1009.7931 998 DCA_int_01 1009.7931 (pause 0.38) 1010.1773 999 DCA_int_01 1010.1773 military- 1011.0393 1000 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1010.1973 This was strictly up to the uh 1011.9661 1001 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1012.4503 outfit, 1012.8305 1002 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1012.8305 (pause 0.08) 1012.9145 1003 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1012.9145 I mean if you were advanced enough in your learning 1015.1495 1004 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1015.1495 (pause 0.31) 1015.4612 1005 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1015.4612 to try the tricky stuff you could try the tricky stuff 1017.2607 1006 DCA_int_01 1017.3783 Oh. 1017.8025 1007 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1017.5622 but it wasn't compulsory. 1018.5098 1008 DCA_int_01 1018.5829 Mm-hm. 1019.0791 1009 DCA_int_01 1019.0791 (pause 0.68) 1019.7554 1010 DCA_int_01 1019.7554 You ever do any of that? 1020.8845 1011 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1021.6805 With the rifle yeah 1022.5129 1012 DCA_int_01 1022.4169 Twirling [/and that kind of stuff?/] 1023.6954 1013 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1022.7330 [yeah with the rifle yeah.] 1023.7215 1014 DCA_int_01 1023.8775 /inaudible/ that's fun, I really enjoyed that /inaudible/ 1027.6174 1015 DCA_int_01 1027.6174 (pause 1.07) 1028.6920 1016 DCA_int_01 1028.6920 Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot? 1030.3522 1017 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1032.6793 Uh 1033.4076 1018 DCA_int_01 1034.9658 Grade school or in your high school? 1036.6626 1019 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1037.3044 No if I say so myself I was a pretty good student. 1039.5855 1020 DCA_int_01 1039.7738 1040.7055 1021 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1039.9939 I didn't uh need a lot of hollering so- 1042.7351 1022 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1043.3554 so I got along with my teachers pretty well. 1044.9692 1023 DCA_int_01 1044.8696 Mm-hm was there one that hollered at the kids in general or? 1047.6829 1024 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1047.9110 Oh we used to have a geography teacher that uh 1049.3879 1025 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1049.3879 (pause 0.38) 1049.7681 1026 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1049.7681 used to get very disgusted with 1050.7771 1027 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1050.7771 (pause 0.66) 1051.4409 1028 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1051.4409 some members of the class and 1052.5641 1029 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1052.5641 (pause 0.36) 1052.9270 1030 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1052.9270 she'd 1053.2971 1031 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1053.2971 (pause 0.04) 1053.3392 1032 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1053.3392 raise her voice 1053.9662 1033 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1053.9662 (pause 0.05) 1054.0195 1034 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1054.0195 yes. 1054.3476 1035 DCA_int_01 1054.8039 What was it usually about do you remember? 1056.6673 1036 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1057.3693 Misbehavior or 1058.7030 1037 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1058.7030 (pause 0.28) 1058.9781 1038 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1058.9781 failure to get your lessons or bring in proper homework or 1061.7442 1039 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1061.7442 (pause 0.75) 1062.4959 1040 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1062.4959 things of that nature. 1063.2607 1041 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1063.2607 (pause 0.61) 1063.8726 1042 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1063.8726 something the child had done, 1064.9851 1043 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1064.9851 (pause 0.10) 1065.0893 1044 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1065.0893 not the teacher. 1065.8295 1045 DCA_int_01 1067.0582 Was it mostly fair 1068.0495 1046 DCA_int_01 1068.0495 (pause 0.20) 1068.2508 1047 DCA_int_01 1068.2508 what she yelled about or do you think she was 1070.0736 1048 DCA_int_01 1070.0736 (pause 0.40) 1070.4693 1049 DCA_int_01 1070.4693 unjust? 1071.1398 1050 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1073.5457 Well nine times out of ten I wasn't involved in it 1075.4091 1051 DCA_int_01 1075.4493 1076.3777 1052 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1075.4546 so I mean I couldn't say I mean but I uh do know that she treated me fair so I can imagine that she was treating them fairly as she could 1081.0559 1053 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1081.3535 before she hollered 1082.1285 1054 DCA_int_01 1082.3980 Mm-hm. 1082.8742 1055 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1083.4225 like that. 1083.8667 1056 DCA_int_01 1084.8994 I mean she did- did she ever holler that you remember 1087.0951 1057 DCA_int_01 1087.0951 (pause 0.31) 1087.4088 1058 DCA_int_01 1087.4088 about something the kid didn't do or anything like that just to be grouchy? 1090.7023 1059 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1090.6515 No one of her favorite statements used to be I got mine you have yours to get 1093.3130 1060 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1093.5758 and you can sit there and play around all you want, you know, you don't have t- to get to work if you don't want to, I have mine 1098.1019 1061 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1098.1019 (pause 0.07) 1098.1742 1062 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1098.1742 and you have yours to get. 1098.9506 1063 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1098.9506 (pause 0.82) 1099.7749 1064 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1099.7749 which I thought was fair. 1100.5340 1065 DCA_int_01 1100.6741 Mm-hm. 1101.0343 1066 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1101.2264 I mean, she worked hard to get where she was and I didn't think that the kids should be in there just 1104.6759 1067 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1104.6759 (pause 0.24) 1104.9150 1068 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1104.9150 you know raising Cain and 1105.8554 1069 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1105.8554 (pause 0.23) 1106.0836 1070 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1106.0836 disrupting everybody else. 1107.1401 1071 DCA_int_01 1107.2441 Mm-hm. 1107.9044 1072 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1108.2686 So in my estimation she was fair. 1109.7172 1073 DCA_int_01 1109.7895 /?/ fair. 1110.4498 1074 DCA_int_01 1110.4498 (pause 0.38) 1110.8340 1075 DCA_int_01 1110.8340 Okay. 1111.2742 1076 DCA_int_01 1111.2742 (pause 0.43) 1111.7024 1077 DCA_int_01 1111.7024 What about the best teacher you ever had? 1113.6383 1078 DCA_int_01 1113.6383 (pause 0.74) 1114.3811 1079 DCA_int_01 1114.3811 Do you remember that? 1115.1863 1080 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1117.4265 The best 1118.0708 1081 DCA_int_01 1118.4004 [Mm-hm.] 1119.1328 1082 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1118.5885 [teacher?] 1119.0648 1083 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1120.7377 You mean the most efficient or the one I like the most? 1123.6838 1084 DCA_int_01 1122.9908 Well let's take 'em both, let's take the one you like the most first. 1125.6930 1085 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1126.5459 I had a Latin teacher in high school 1128.1060 1086 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1128.1060 (pause 0.21) 1128.3187 1087 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1128.3187 that I 1128.7509 1088 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1128.7509 (pause 0.77) 1129.5195 1089 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1129.5195 liked 1129.8557 1090 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1129.8557 (pause 0.36) 1130.2118 1091 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1130.2118 very much. 1130.7227 1092 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1130.7227 (pause 0.74) 1131.4644 1093 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1131.4644 You know 1131.8301 1094 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1131.8301 (pause 0.21) 1132.0422 1095 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1132.0422 she was a very good teacher and 1133.6949 1096 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1133.6949 (pause 0.25) 1133.9470 1097 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1133.9470 /so what and so on/ 1134.6785 1098 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1134.6785 (pause 1.50) 1136.1788 1099 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1136.1788 Ah the most efficient teacher, pardon? 1137.7650 1100 DCA_int_01 1137.7730 What was there- there about this Latin teacher that 1140.0621 1101 DCA_int_01 1140.0621 (pause 1.22) 1141.2827 1102 DCA_int_01 1141.2827 put her above the others? 1142.5989 1103 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1143.3891 Well she uh 1144.1457 1104 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1144.1457 (pause 0.34) 1144.4898 1105 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1144.4898 explained 1145.1822 1106 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1145.1822 (pause 0.46) 1145.6424 1107 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1145.6424 and she 1146.3547 1108 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1146.3547 (pause 0.40) 1146.7509 1109 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1146.7509 was always available 1147.6433 1110 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1147.6433 (pause 0.33) 1147.9782 1111 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1147.9782 you know if you had difficulty or 1149.3395 1112 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1149.3395 (pause 0.25) 1149.5869 1113 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1149.5869 you know- she was always available, 1150.6995 1114 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1150.6995 (pause 0.66) 1151.3600 1115 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1151.3600 and she did it with a smile 1152.4571 1116 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1152.4571 (pause 0.48) 1152.9407 1117 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1152.9407 with 1153.1408 1118 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1153.1408 (pause 0.12) 1153.2609 1119 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1153.2609 /a thought of uh/ 1153.9972 1120 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1153.9972 (pause 0.04) 1154.0412 1121 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1154.0412 you know grumbling 1154.7376 1122 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1154.7376 (pause 1.34) 1156.0797 1123 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1156.0797 and she just seemed to be a dedicated teacher, 1158.0928 1124 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1158.0928 (pause 0.18) 1158.2767 1125 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1158.2767 and she helped her students 1159.8174 1126 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1159.8174 (pause 0.32) 1160.1338 1127 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1160.1338 all get grades that were 1161.5922 1128 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1161.5922 (pause 0.57) 1162.1587 1129 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1162.1587 the maximum instead of just passing like that. 1163.8683 1130 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1163.8683 (pause 0.17) 1164.0425 1131 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1164.0425 She helped them as much as she possibly could. 1165.7097 1132 DCA_int_01 1166.5384 Were you good in Latin? 1167.5805 1133 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1168.2525 Mm, pretty good. 1169.0782 1134 DCA_int_01 1170.9059 What about the one that would- taught 1172.7171 1135 DCA_int_01 1172.7171 (pause 0.42) 1173.1350 1136 DCA_int_01 1173.1350 most efficiently? 1174.1450 1137 DCA_int_01 1174.1450 (pause 2.46) 1176.6035 1138 DCA_int_01 1176.6035 Or would it be the same one? 1177.8321 1139 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1179.2035 Well, 1179.7465 1140 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1179.7465 (pause 0.05) 1179.7945 1141 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1179.7945 /now the one that's-/ was the most efficient I think was uh 1182.3289 1142 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1182.3289 (pause 0.15) 1182.4745 1143 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1182.4745 a little rough 1184.9316 1144 DCA_int_01 1183.2548 1184.6596 1145 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1185.3240 actually I mean 1186.4066 1146 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1186.4066 (pause 0.17) 1186.5726 1147 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1186.5726 uh he was a male teacher and he was a 1188.2908 1148 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1188.2908 (pause 0.12) 1188.4134 1149 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1188.4134 science teacher 1189.1129 1150 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1189.1129 (pause 0.10) 1189.2153 1151 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1189.2153 in fact 1189.6235 1152 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1189.6235 (pause 0.59) 1190.2157 1153 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1190.2157 and he just nearly- 1191.3206 1154 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1191.3206 (pause 0.26) 1191.5779 1155 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1191.5779 he d- 1192.0901 1156 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1192.0901 (pause 0.06) 1192.1501 1157 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1192.1501 was more or less the same as this other teacher but he was just 1193.8989 1158 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1193.8989 (pause 0.62) 1194.5152 1159 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1194.5152 less uh 1195.4759 1160 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1195.4759 (pause 0.25) 1195.7280 1161 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1195.7280 cooperative, less uh helpful 1197.2607 1162 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1197.2607 (pause 0.11) 1197.3728 1163 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1197.3728 and /so what so on/ 1198.0411 1164 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1198.0411 (pause 0.22) 1198.2652 1165 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1198.2652 but he did give it to you to the point 1199.8299 1166 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1199.8299 (pause 0.09) 1199.9247 1167 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1199.9247 of 1200.2408 1168 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1200.2408 (pause 0.27) 1200.5089 1169 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1200.5089 you should have it, 1201.3814 1170 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1201.3814 (pause 0.20) 1201.5814 1171 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1201.5814 if you just pay attention /so what and so on/ 1203.1917 1172 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1203.1917 (pause 0.25) 1203.4438 1173 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1203.4438 he was more he- 1203.9488 1174 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1203.9488 (pause 0.33) 1204.2789 1175 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1204.2789 taught more like a college teacher than a high [school teacher like] that, 1206.4799 1176 DCA_int_01 1205.6676 [Mm-hm.] 1206.2678 1177 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1207.2005 and I think he was very efficient. 1208.2817 1178 DCA_int_01 1208.3570 Hm. 1208.7372 1179 DCA_int_01 1208.7372 (pause 1.33) 1210.0698 1180 DCA_int_01 1210.0698 Felt that you learned stuff from him? 1211.6270 1181 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1212.1162 Well I think if you didn't you just plain had to 1214.2273 1182 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1214.2273 (pause 0.10) 1214.3280 1183 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1214.3280 form a dislike for him and you know just one of those mental blocks or something like that. 1217.5135 1184 DCA_int_01 1217.7365 Mm-hm. 1218.7370 1185 DCA_int_01 1218.7370 (pause 0.54) 1219.2773 1186 DCA_int_01 1219.2773 Did most of the kids feel about him the way you did you know that he was 1222.2175 1187 DCA_int_01 1222.2175 (pause 0.53) 1222.7431 1188 DCA_int_01 1222.7431 kind of rough but a pretty good teacher? 1224.5426 1189 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1224.6360 I think most of 'em thought 1225.6724 1190 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1225.6724 (pause 0.14) 1225.8125 1191 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1225.8125 of him as a good teacher. 1227.1549 1192 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1227.1549 (pause 0.58) 1227.7389 1193 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1227.7389 They didn't think that he was rough because I didn't have a great 1229.6632 1194 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1229.6632 (pause 0.20) 1229.8653 1195 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1229.8653 love for science, for biology that's why /he was strict/ 1232.4620 1196 DCA_int_01 1230.9671 1232.4813 1197 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1232.8843 and he was just uh 1234.1102 1198 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1234.1102 (pause 0.36) 1234.4662 1199 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1234.4662 I mean he just 1235.0747 1200 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1235.0747 (pause 0.28) 1235.3548 1201 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1235.3548 made it worse that's all 1237.1196 1202 DCA_int_01 1236.2180 1237.2280 1203 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1237.7079 No I think all of 'em thought he was a good teacher though. 1239.2753 1204 DCA_int_01 1239.1941 Mm-hm. 1239.7906 1205 DCA_int_01 1241.7808 Was there a teacher that- another teacher besides this biology teacher that you just couldn't stand? 1246.1200 1206 DCA_int_01 1246.1200 (pause 0.19) 1246.3084 1207 DCA_int_01 1246.3084 Didn't like at all? 1247.5666 1208 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1250.4225 Mm 1251.1868 1209 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1251.1868 (pause 0.65) 1251.8351 1210 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1251.8351 uh, 1252.3924 1211 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1252.3924 (pause 3.52) 1255.9147 1212 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1255.9147 no, I had one who didn't like me so much but I could get along with uh 1258.9537 1213 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1258.9537 (pause 0.16) 1259.1122 1214 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1259.1122 just about all of 'em. 1259.8349 1215 DCA_int_01 1260.4528 Why was that? 1261.1132 1216 DCA_int_01 1261.1132 (pause 0.62) 1261.7376 1217 DCA_int_01 1261.7376 Do you [remember?] 1262.4020 1218 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1261.9818 [Well in my] uh fifth year Latin, 1263.8321 1219 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1264.3709 I was the only boy in a class with twenty one, 1266.3286 1220 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1266.3286 (pause 0.15) 1266.4761 1221 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1266.4761 [And I think he uh] resented this I really think he resented it, you know. 1270.9053 1222 DCA_int_01 1266.4801 [Oh no] 1269.3437 1223 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1271.2650 [So does-] 1272.2112 1224 DCA_int_01 1271.3078 [That was a man] teacher? 1272.5218 1225 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1272.4963 A man teacher 1273.0846 1226 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1273.1606 yeah. 1273.4814 1227 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1273.4814 (pause 0.66) 1274.1386 1228 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1274.1386 And I think he liked to play with the girls you know 1275.4912 1229 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1275.4912 (pause 0.27) 1275.7633 1230 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1275.7633 /you know/ whatever you wanna do with 'em, /a male uh might/ 1277.8190 1231 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1277.8190 (pause 0.40) 1278.2219 1232 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1278.2219 interfere with his uh- uh his 1280.0839 1233 DCA_int_01 1278.8822 1279.4221 1234 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1280.2191 teaching or something. 1281.2030 1235 DCA_int_01 1281.2035 1282.0641 1236 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1282.1760 Well he didn't have any great love for me but I got along with him pretty well you know 1284.8092 1237 DCA_int_01 1284.7627 Mm. 1285.2010 1238 DCA_int_01 1285.5230 Good. 1285.8989 1239 DCA_int_01 1285.8989 (pause 1.25) 1287.1518 1240 DCA_int_01 1287.1518 Were you ever in a class where the kids played a 1289.0674 1241 DCA_int_01 1289.0674 (pause 0.39) 1289.4623 1242 DCA_int_01 1289.4623 practical joke or a trick on the teacher? 1291.5623 1243 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1293.4524 Mm not that I recall. 1295.0473 1244 DCA_int_01 1295.4093 No? 1295.8389 1245 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1295.7975 Never. 1296.2227 1246 DCA_int_01 1297.0103 Or put any tacks on the seat or anything? 1298.8951 1247 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1298.5990 No no no. 1299.9066 1248 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1300.0277 They'd play with each other you know but not with the teacher. 1301.9728 1249 DCA_int_01 1302.1889 Mm-hm. 1302.8291 1250 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1303.2093 Pulling chairs out from behind one another and 1304.9378 1251 DCA_int_01 1304.8541 Oh yeah? 1305.4026 1252 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1305.3866 all this, yeah. 1306.2268 1253 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1306.4791 But that's with each other 1307.3208 1254 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1307.3208 (pause 0.08) 1307.3995 1255 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1307.3995 not with a [teacher.] 1308.1788 1256 DCA_int_01 1307.7637 [Not with] a teacher. 1308.6761 1257 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1308.5400 Right. 1308.8362 1258 DCA_int_01 1309.6340 What else would they do to each other do you remember? 1311.7891 1259 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1312.2847 Oh they would do anything 1313.3297 1260 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1313.3297 (pause 0.05) 1313.3812 1261 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1313.3812 uh 1313.7734 1262 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1313.7734 (pause 0.08) 1313.8495 1263 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1313.8495 you know kids in 1314.9180 1264 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1314.9180 (pause 0.08) 1314.9940 1265 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1314.9940 elementary you know stick balls and 1316.8308 1266 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1316.8308 (pause 0.25) 1317.0804 1267 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1317.0804 uh rubber bands 1320.0205 1268 DCA_int_01 1319.8364 Yeah I remember [some of that] stuff. 1321.5213 1269 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1320.3969 [/do almost anything/] 1321.1333 1270 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1321.8976 But as I got older 1322.9381 1271 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1322.9381 (pause 0.33) 1323.2663 1272 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1323.2663 took that out of the classroom you know 1324.5753 1273 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1324.5753 (pause 0.04) 1324.6189 1274 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1324.6189 took that recess or 1325.6928 1275 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1325.6928 (pause 0.37) 1326.0638 1276 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1326.0638 ten thirty break or whatever it was 1327.4844 1277 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1327.4844 (pause 0.72) 1328.2048 1278 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1328.2048 as you got o- they got older they didn't 1329.8331 1279 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1329.8331 (pause 0.82) 1330.6514 1280 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1330.6514 play around, horse around too much in the classroom. 1332.2826 1281 DCA_int_01 1333.1620 Mm-hm. 1333.7396 1282 DCA_int_01 1333.7396 (pause 0.62) 1334.3626 1283 DCA_int_01 1334.3626 When you were uh 1335.2551 1284 DCA_int_01 1335.2551 (pause 1.19) 1336.4450 1285 DCA_int_01 1336.4450 a small child again going back to elementary age, 1339.3184 1286 DCA_int_01 1339.3184 (pause 0.39) 1339.7120 1287 DCA_int_01 1339.7120 was there a certain group of kids that you always played with sort of hung around, 1343.0936 1288 DCA_int_01 1343.0936 (pause 0.19) 1343.2859 1289 DCA_int_01 1343.2859 did things with? 1344.2931 1290 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1345.5429 I would say so, 1346.2366 1291 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1346.2366 (pause 0.08) 1346.3153 1292 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1346.3153 yeah. 1346.5896 1293 DCA_int_01 1347.0078 Were they about your age? 1348.0154 1294 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1348.2124 Yeah. 1348.5085 1295 DCA_int_01 1349.8051 Was there one kid in this group that you looked up to as a leader? 1352.5146 1296 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1353.4230 Never. 1353.9072 1297 DCA_int_01 1354.1754 Hm. 1354.5716 1298 DCA_int_01 1354.5716 (pause 0.39) 1354.9637 1299 DCA_int_01 1354.9637 Everybody was kind of equal? 1356.3351 1300 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1356.5112 Everybody was 1357.1275 1301 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1357.1275 (pause 0.07) 1357.1928 1302 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1357.1928 /kwina/ kind of equal 1358.1359 1303 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1358.1359 (pause 0.05) 1358.1827 1304 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1358.1827 right. 1358.4817 1305 DCA_int_01 1359.2792 Suppose a new kid came into the neighborhood and wanted to play with you, 1362.7438 1306 DCA_int_01 1362.7438 (pause 0.30) 1363.0479 1307 DCA_int_01 1363.0479 or join the group, how would he go about it? 1365.2584 1308 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1365.7427 It made us no difference. 1366.5684 1309 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1366.5684 (pause 0.81) 1367.3794 1310 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1367.3794 Fact I moved quite a few times when I was young so therefore I was always the new kid in the block 1372.1118 1311 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1372.1118 (pause 0.33) 1372.4447 1312 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1372.4447 so it just- so you know just 1374.1137 1313 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1374.1137 (pause 0.44) 1374.5499 1314 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1374.5499 come on in and play 1375.3183 1315 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1375.3183 (pause 0.14) 1375.4596 1316 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1375.4596 that's all. 1375.7957 1317 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1375.7957 (pause 0.79) 1376.5841 1318 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1376.5841 Course you always 1377.2909 1319 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1377.2909 (pause 0.06) 1377.3485 1320 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1377.3485 you know look at the new guy, 1378.2809 1321 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1378.2809 (pause 0.78) 1379.0655 1322 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1379.0655 you know who is he, what is he like and all that but 1380.7620 1323 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1380.7620 (pause 0.96) 1381.7267 1324 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1381.7267 no 1382.2389 1325 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1382.2389 (pause 0.07) 1382.3070 1326 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1382.3070 trouble or anything. 1383.1327 1327 DCA_int_01 1383.4077 Didn't have to fight your way in or anything like that? 1385.6383 1328 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1385.6968 No you just fought /???/ 1386.9376 1329 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1386.9376 (pause 0.68) 1387.6139 1330 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1387.6139 you know you just get on the playground you might get in a fight 1389.2506 1331 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1389.2506 (pause 0.54) 1389.7909 1332 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1389.7909 or d- 1390.2271 1333 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1390.2271 (pause 0.14) 1390.3672 1334 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1390.3672 play 1390.6429 1335 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1390.6429 (pause 0.09) 1390.7353 1336 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1390.7353 tag somebody- hits somebody too hard, you might get in a fight but 1392.5282 1337 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1392.5282 (pause 0.07) 1392.5937 1338 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1392.5937 just to fight a new kid, no 1394.0623 1339 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1394.0623 (pause 0.64) 1394.7026 1340 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1394.7026 no 1394.9708 1341 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1394.9708 (pause 0.13) 1395.0988 1342 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1395.0988 nothing like that. 1395.5790 1343 DCA_int_01 1396.1503 There's no initiations or anything like that? 1398.1465 1344 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1398.1552 No. 1398.8755 1345 DCA_int_01 1399.4918 Mm-hm. 1400.0519 1346 DCA_int_01 1400.0519 (pause 1.26) 1401.3127 1347 DCA_int_01 1401.3127 In this group of kids that uh you hung around with were there any Caucasians? 1405.1323 1348 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1407.3492 At ten years of age? 1408.3096 1349 DCA_int_01 1408.2976 Yeah. 1408.6616 1350 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1408.7018 No. 1408.9754 1351 DCA_int_01 1409.9598 What about later on? 1410.9243 1352 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1411.4485 In junior high school we lived with a- 1413.1015 1353 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1413.1015 (pause 0.64) 1413.7458 1354 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1413.7458 well they had a 1414.2146 1355 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1414.2146 (pause 0.28) 1414.4942 1356 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1414.4942 neighborhood store 1415.2459 1357 DCA_int_01 1415.5747 Mm-hm. 1415.9502 1358 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1415.9588 and the son there 1417.1474 1359 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1417.1474 (pause 0.35) 1417.4956 1360 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1417.4956 was a Jew, 1418.0615 1361 DCA_int_01 1418.3749 Mm-hm. 1418.7406 1362 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1418.7631 Caucasian, 1419.3349 1363 DCA_int_01 1419.3594 Yeah. 1419.7115 1364 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1420.0077 so I say 1420.8175 1365 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1420.8175 (pause 0.71) 1421.5244 1366 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1421.5244 he and I, we used to- 1422.5852 1367 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1422.5852 (pause 0.08) 1422.6691 1368 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1422.6691 the whole neighborhood used to play together. 1424.1088 1369 DCA_int_01 1424.1298 Mm-hm. 1424.6339 1370 DCA_int_01 1424.6339 (pause 0.54) 1425.1743 1371 DCA_int_01 1425.1743 Was there a group of- 1425.9855 1372 DCA_int_01 1425.9855 (pause 0.17) 1426.1547 1373 DCA_int_01 1426.1547 is there a group of people now that you 1428.0156 1374 DCA_int_01 1428.0156 (pause 0.85) 1428.8615 1375 DCA_int_01 1428.8615 hang around with 1429.7685 1376 DCA_int_01 1429.7685 (pause 0.76) 1430.5330 1377 DCA_int_01 1430.5330 when you're not working? 1431.6941 1378 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1431.8951 Caucasians? 1432.9493 1379 DCA_int_01 1432.9236 No, anybody. 1433.6906 1380 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1434.8005 No usually I'm with the family. 1436.7016 1381 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1436.7016 (pause 0.28) 1436.9857 1382 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1436.9857 I'm a family man and uh usually I'm either wi- either with 1439.4963 1383 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1439.4963 (pause 0.39) 1439.8830 1384 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1439.8830 my immediate family or 1441.5213 1385 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1441.5213 (pause 0.63) 1442.1536 1386 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1442.1536 the brothers and sister of the wife or the brother and sist- my own 1444.6882 1387 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1444.6882 (pause 0.13) 1444.8163 1388 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1444.8163 people like that 1445.4043 1389 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1445.4043 (pause 0.60) 1446.0008 1390 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1446.0008 very seldom I go 1446.9238 1391 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1446.9238 (pause 0.44) 1447.3669 1392 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1447.3669 out 1447.6150 1393 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1447.6150 (pause 0.11) 1447.7231 1394 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1447.7231 period, you know 1448.4081 1395 DCA_int_01 1448.5067 Mm. 1448.6790 1396 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1448.7035 to mix with people 1449.6062 1397 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1449.6062 (pause 0.51) 1450.1137 1398 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1450.1137 to a party or 1451.0981 1399 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1451.0981 (pause 0.13) 1451.2262 1400 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1451.2262 cabaret or something like that, 1452.5222 1401 DCA_int_01 1452.2547 Mm-hm. 1452.8120 1402 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1452.8884 well then you have everybody there 1454.0890 1403 DCA_int_01 1454.2771 Mm-hm. 1454.6602 1404 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1454.6413 but other than that just to 1456.0838 1405 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1456.4116 no. 1456.6277 1406 DCA_int_01 1456.8918 Mostly your [family?] 1458.0443 1407 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1457.7162 [Mostly] it's 1458.2644 1408 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1458.3765 family. 1458.7967 1409 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1458.7967 (pause 0.57) 1459.3704 1410 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1459.3704 Course I have a large family. 1460.4022 1411 DCA_int_01 1460.6150 Oh yeah? How many kids do you have? 1461.9196 1412 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1461.9236 I mean my 1462.5681 1413 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1462.5681 (pause 0.25) 1462.8202 1414 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1462.8202 [wife is] right, 1464.1568 1415 DCA_int_01 1462.8402 [Oh you mean your] 1463.7044 1416 DCA_int_01 1463.7044 (pause 0.45) 1464.1528 1417 DCA_int_01 1464.1528 relatives? 1464.8799 1418 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1464.6411 right, relatives right. 1465.5735 1419 DCA_int_01 1467.4066 How many children do you have though? 1468.9144 1420 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1469.0713 I have four children in school. 1470.1801 1421 DCA_int_01 1470.3842 Oh that's a nice family. 1471.7448 1422 DCA_int_01 1471.7448 (pause 2.35) 1474.0899 1423 DCA_int_01 1474.0899 Ah let's see, 1474.8214 1424 DCA_int_01 1474.8214 (pause 0.61) 1475.4267 1425 DCA_int_01 1475.4267 uh if you could start over again, is there anything you'd do differently? 1478.7082 1426 DCA_int_01 1478.7082 (pause 0.21) 1478.9178 1427 DCA_int_01 1478.9178 Your education, decisions you've made, 1480.9284 1428 DCA_int_01 1480.9284 (pause 0.90) 1481.8272 1429 DCA_int_01 1481.8272 your life? 1482.6094 1430 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1482.8396 I'd stay in school 1483.6680 1431 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1483.6680 (pause 0.13) 1483.7936 1432 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1483.7936 stay in university, in college 1485.0421 1433 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1485.0421 (pause 0.37) 1485.4103 1434 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1485.4103 that's for sure. 1486.0146 1435 DCA_int_01 1486.1922 Uh-huh, think it would have been worth it? 1487.8524 1436 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1488.2226 Yeah. 1488.5587 1437 DCA_int_01 1490.6917 That was kind of rough at the time though? 1492.1517 1438 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1493.3692 Well I made a mistake when I went in, I went in uh 1495.3621 1439 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1495.3621 (pause 1.00) 1496.3586 1440 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1496.3586 into the second half 1497.1872 1441 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1497.1872 (pause 0.10) 1497.2830 1442 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1497.2830 of the course. 1498.1634 1443 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1498.1634 (pause 0.52) 1498.6851 1444 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1498.6851 I [started in February] instead of uh 1500.3859 1445 DCA_int_01 1498.8372 [Oh.] 1499.4135 1446 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1500.5700 September. 1501.1156 1447 DCA_int_01 1501.3223 Oh. 1501.7345 1448 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1501.8575 And as a uh counselor said I should be able to uh do the work, so what and so on, it didn't come quite that easily. 1506.0829 1449 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1506.0829 (pause 0.46) 1506.5397 1450 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1506.5397 Plus I had been married and uh had 1508.0979 1451 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1508.0979 (pause 0.13) 1508.2260 1452 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1508.2260 other things on my mind, I'd had a break up in the marriage so I wasn't actually 1511.5395 1453 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1511.5395 (pause 0.53) 1512.0652 1454 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1512.0652 applying myself 1512.9897 1455 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1512.9897 (pause 0.08) 1513.0697 1456 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1513.0697 as I could. 1513.7939 1457 DCA_int_01 1513.8421 Mm-hm. 1514.2983 1458 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1514.2997 So instead of frustrating myself I just dropped out. 1516.3779 1459 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1516.3779 (pause 1.03) 1517.4094 1460 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1517.4094 But if I had to 1517.9377 1461 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1517.9377 (pause 0.13) 1518.0697 1462 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1518.0697 do it all over, plus I was twenty five years old 1519.9163 1463 DCA_int_01 1520.1147 Mm-hm. 1520.8030 1464 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1520.4188 when I started. 1520.9991 1465 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1521.6756 So if I had it to do all over again, I'd start 1523.5925 1466 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1523.5925 (pause 0.08) 1523.6685 1467 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1523.6685 when I came out of high school, I came out of high school when I was sixteen 1526.0056 1468 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1526.0056 (pause 0.08) 1526.0859 1469 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1526.0859 almost seventeen, 1526.8382 1470 DCA_int_01 1527.0463 Mm. 1527.5025 1471 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1527.2824 I'd start 1527.8310 1472 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1527.9387 shortly after then, 1528.8283 1473 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1528.8283 (pause 0.27) 1529.0993 1474 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1529.0993 and then I think I could've breezed through 1530.4750 1475 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1530.4750 (pause 0.36) 1530.8363 1476 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1530.8363 you know with more understanding and more anxiety and everything else. 1533.5371 1477 DCA_int_01 1533.8537 Mm-hm. 1534.4202 1478 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1534.5580 So if I had to do it all over again I'd 1535.7145 1479 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1535.7145 (pause 0.25) 1535.9601 1480 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1535.9601 definitely 1536.4761 1481 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1536.4761 (pause 0.46) 1536.9406 1482 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1536.9406 do that. 1537.2968 1483 DCA_int_01 1538.3175 What kind of a 1539.0578 1484 DCA_int_01 1539.0578 (pause 0.44) 1539.5020 1485 DCA_int_01 1539.5020 position would you have aimed at? 1540.8706 1486 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1541.3844 Business. 1541.8566 1487 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1541.8566 (pause 1.05) 1542.9051 1488 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1542.9051 I was taking uh business administration. 1544.7612 1489 DCA_int_01 1545.0581 Mm-hm. 1545.6008 1490 DCA_int_01 1545.6008 (pause 1.34) 1546.9431 1491 DCA_int_01 1546.9431 Good. 1547.3393 1492 DCA_int_01 1547.3393 (pause 1.28) 1548.6239 1493 DCA_int_01 1548.6239 Um 1549.1348 1494 DCA_int_01 1549.1348 (pause 1.35) 1550.4890 1495 DCA_int_01 1550.4890 What did you wanna be when you were a kid, do you remember? 1552.8781 1496 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1553.7345 A teacher. 1554.1989 1497 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1554.1989 (pause 1.59) 1555.7877 1498 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1555.7877 When I was in kindergarten I wanted to be a teacher. 1557.4102 1499 DCA_int_01 1557.7806 Mm-hm. 1558.3156 1500 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1558.3889 I thought it was fascinating. 1559.4214 1501 DCA_int_01 1559.3348 Mm-hm. 1559.9111 1502 DCA_int_01 1560.8235 Changed your mind as you got older? 1562.1835 1503 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1562.5645 Yeah. 1562.9327 1504 DCA_int_01 1564.2333 Well that's not unusual. 1565.4598 1505 DCA_int_01 1565.4598 (pause 2.38) 1567.8444 1506 DCA_int_01 1567.8444 Uh if you had all the money 1569.9589 1507 DCA_int_01 1569.9589 (pause 0.26) 1570.2218 1508 DCA_int_01 1570.2218 that you wanted, if I could give you all the money 1572.3327 1509 DCA_int_01 1572.3327 (pause 0.47) 1572.8030 1510 DCA_int_01 1572.8030 that you could possibly use 1574.2455 1511 DCA_int_01 1574.2455 (pause 0.25) 1574.4957 1512 DCA_int_01 1574.4957 what would you do with it? 1575.4231 1513 DCA_int_01 1575.4231 (pause 2.44) 1577.8603 1514 DCA_int_01 1577.8603 Use your imagination a little 1579.7716 1515 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1580.5055 All the money? 1581.4212 1516 DCA_int_01 1581.4379 Mm-hm. 1582.1069 1517 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1582.9028 Well this is a pretty good time to ask me that with all those people down on the uh 1585.8068 1518 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1585.8068 (pause 0.08) 1585.8842 1519 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1585.8842 monument uh 1586.7166 1520 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1586.7166 (pause 0.03) 1586.7421 1521 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1586.7421 reflecting pool 1588.4301 1522 DCA_int_01 1587.1303 1588.7470 1523 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1588.7750 I'd donate quite a bit of it to them to the /???/ that's for sure, 1591.5138 1524 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1591.5138 (pause 1.12) 1592.6303 1525 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1592.6303 and I would 1593.1905 1526 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1593.1905 (pause 0.19) 1593.3801 1527 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1593.3801 uh 1593.8053 1528 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1593.8053 (pause 0.13) 1593.9364 1529 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1593.9364 provide 1594.4926 1530 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1594.4926 (pause 0.27) 1594.7648 1531 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1594.7648 very 1595.4062 1532 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1595.4062 (pause 0.32) 1595.7292 1533 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1595.7292 well for my family, 1596.6656 1534 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1596.6656 (pause 0.19) 1596.8579 1535 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1596.8579 house uh 1597.7263 1536 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1597.7263 (pause 0.45) 1598.1746 1537 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1598.1746 and all the other 1598.8709 1538 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1598.8709 (pause 0.90) 1599.7713 1539 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1599.7713 necessities and some luxuries for them. 1601.6042 1540 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1601.6042 (pause 1.70) 1603.3079 1541 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1603.3079 And then I'm sure I would uh 1604.6126 1542 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1604.6126 (pause 0.43) 1605.0447 1543 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1605.0447 save quite a bit 1605.9532 1544 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1605.9532 (pause 0.39) 1606.3455 1545 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1606.3455 as well as donating to 1607.3570 1546 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1607.3570 (pause 0.14) 1607.4940 1547 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1607.4940 worthy 1607.9262 1548 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1607.9262 (pause 0.22) 1608.1423 1549 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1608.1423 causes. 1608.5826 1550 DCA_int_01 1608.6306 Mm-hm. 1609.1868 1551 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1609.4109 I would definitely try to make my family very happy 1610.9771 1552 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1610.9771 (pause 0.23) 1611.2052 1553 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1611.2052 and comfortable. 1611.7455 1554 DCA_int_01 1611.8816 Mm-hm. 1612.4316 1555 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1613.1742 And 1613.6333 1556 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1613.6333 (pause 0.09) 1613.7266 1557 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1613.7266 donate to others 1614.5049 1558 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1614.5049 (pause 0.08) 1614.5868 1559 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1614.5868 and 1615.0918 1560 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1615.0918 (pause 1.19) 1616.2866 1561 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1616.2866 save. 1616.7468 1562 DCA_int_01 1618.2395 Three big categories, huh? 1619.5561 1563 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1619.6881 Pardon? 1620.0887 1564 DCA_int_01 1620.2084 Three big categories. 1621.2769 1565 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1621.2809 Yes. 1621.7090 1566 DCA_int_01 1622.8526 Well that's good, a lot of people just think of themselves really. 1625.4978 1567 DCA_int_01 1625.4978 (pause 0.61) 1626.1101 1568 DCA_int_01 1626.1101 It's interesting to meet somebody that would 1627.7218 1569 DCA_int_01 1627.7218 (pause 0.14) 1627.8658 1570 DCA_int_01 1627.8658 try to use it for someone else. 1629.0824 1571 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1628.9583 Well, I lost my mother when I was nine and my father wasn't very 1632.0930 1572 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1632.3399 much around and so, people do it for me all my life so it's a natural 1635.2147 1573 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1635.2147 (pause 0.36) 1635.5709 1574 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1635.5709 thing with me. 1636.0833 1575 DCA_int_01 1637.1318 /inaudible/ 1638.3959 1576 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1637.1358 I like people and they've always treated me 1638.4965 1577 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1638.9007 very nicely. 1639.4724 1578 DCA_int_01 1639.6758 Hm. 1640.0705 1579 DCA_int_01 1640.0705 (pause 0.45) 1640.5241 1580 DCA_int_01 1640.5241 Great. 1640.8618 1581 DCA_int_01 1640.8618 (pause 1.63) 1642.4905 1582 DCA_int_01 1642.4905 What do you do in a day's work? 1643.9911 1583 DCA_int_01 1643.9911 (pause 0.16) 1644.1553 1584 DCA_int_01 1644.1553 When you get up, 1644.9549 1585 DCA_int_01 1644.9549 (pause 0.22) 1645.1773 1586 DCA_int_01 1645.1773 how do you start? 1646.2381 1587 DCA_int_01 1646.2381 (pause 0.30) 1646.5379 1588 DCA_int_01 1646.5379 What goes on? 1647.3637 1589 DCA_int_01 1647.3637 (pause 0.48) 1647.8467 1590 DCA_int_01 1647.8467 I guess today would be kind of unusual as a day 1650.0700 1591 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1650.0317 1650.6412 1592 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1651.3123 Well, 1651.8290 1593 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1651.8290 (pause 0.39) 1652.2182 1594 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1652.2182 the first thing you do you know you get in your car and make sure it's pretty clean 1654.9909 1595 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1654.9909 (pause 0.78) 1655.7759 1596 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1655.7759 you start your manifest that's your record your 1657.8276 1597 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1657.8276 (pause 0.12) 1657.9476 1598 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1657.9476 trips for the day 1658.7226 1599 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1658.7226 (pause 1.36) 1660.0808 1600 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1660.0808 and you 1660.5902 1601 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1660.5902 (pause 0.46) 1661.0453 1602 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1661.0453 start your motor and you drive. 1662.3224 1603 DCA_int_01 1662.5062 Mm-hm. 1662.8617 1604 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1662.8103 That's it. 1663.2921 1605 DCA_int_01 1663.5026 Where do you go first? 1664.7043 1606 DCA_int_01 1664.7043 (pause 0.10) 1664.8072 1607 DCA_int_01 1664.8072 Do you go right to a hotel or? 1666.1679 1608 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1666.9017 Well, 1667.6460 1609 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1667.6460 (pause 0.41) 1668.0582 1610 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1668.0582 no. 1668.3978 1611 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1668.3978 (pause 0.29) 1668.6865 1612 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1668.6865 I 1669.1667 1613 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1669.1667 (pause 0.52) 1669.6830 1614 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1669.6830 live 1670.0952 1615 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1670.0952 (pause 0.76) 1670.8570 1616 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1670.8570 in the second alphabet 1671.7614 1617 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1671.7614 (pause 0.51) 1672.2696 1618 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1672.2696 up on the hill 1672.8966 1619 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1672.8966 (pause 0.15) 1673.0420 1620 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1673.0420 Georgia Avenue 1673.6343 1621 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1673.6343 (pause 0.09) 1673.7223 1622 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1673.7223 by Howard University, 1674.6722 1623 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1674.6722 (pause 0.76) 1675.4326 1624 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1675.4326 and I go over to Fourteenth Street which is a good 1677.0293 1625 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1677.0293 (pause 0.09) 1677.1163 1626 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1677.1163 hacking street 1677.7366 1627 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1677.7366 (pause 0.79) 1678.5290 1628 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1678.5290 in the morning, 1679.0332 1629 DCA_int_01 1679.2813 Mm-hm. 1679.7211 1630 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1679.8776 this is when I leave directly from home 1681.2824 1631 DCA_int_01 1681.3823 Yeah. 1681.8040 1632 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1681.8825 and I just cruise down Fourteenth street 1683.1311 1633 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1683.1311 (pause 0.16) 1683.2912 1634 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1683.2912 til I 1683.5755 1635 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1683.5755 (pause 0.05) 1683.6236 1636 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1683.6236 pick up the first fare. 1684.3318 1637 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1684.3318 (pause 0.77) 1685.1002 1638 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1685.1002 If I don't 1685.6445 1639 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1685.6445 (pause 0.09) 1685.7300 1640 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1685.7300 pick up a fare before I get to a hotel 1687.2070 1641 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1687.2070 (pause 0.09) 1687.2929 1642 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1687.2929 yeah 1687.4862 1643 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1687.4862 (pause 0.08) 1687.5647 1644 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1687.5647 I'll go to a hotel or a business office or 1689.5111 1645 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1689.5111 (pause 0.49) 1690.0055 1646 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1690.0055 something like that, 1690.5047 1647 DCA_int_01 1690.6938 Mm-hm. 1691.1205 1648 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1691.5142 where people usually are 1692.7140 1649 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1692.7140 (pause 0.11) 1692.8283 1650 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1692.8283 moving around 1693.5365 1651 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1693.5365 (pause 0.18) 1693.7207 1652 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1693.7207 and they use cabs 1694.7627 1653 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1694.7627 (pause 0.30) 1695.0653 1654 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1695.0653 quite uh 1695.6018 1655 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1695.6018 (pause 0.11) 1695.7136 1656 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1695.7136 a bit. 1695.9977 1657 DCA_int_01 1696.2378 Mm-hm. 1696.6848 1658 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1697.0584 I don't head for the 1697.7855 1659 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1697.7855 (pause 0.16) 1697.9469 1660 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1697.9469 industrial centers that don't start until you know 1699.8117 1661 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1699.8117 (pause 0.08) 1699.8918 1662 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1699.8918 later 1700.2214 1663 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1700.2214 (pause 0.09) 1700.3134 1664 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1700.3134 or something like that, you know the sh- shopping area like that. 1702.4664 1665 DCA_int_01 1702.5905 Yeah. 1703.0067 1666 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1705.5934 And right now I take my wife to work in the morning, 1707.4350 1667 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1707.4350 (pause 0.59) 1708.0240 1668 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1708.0240 and I take my daughter to school 1709.3722 1669 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1709.3722 (pause 0.56) 1709.9288 1670 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1709.9288 after I let the wife out. 1710.6852 1671 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1710.6852 (pause 0.70) 1711.3857 1672 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1711.3857 So I start 1712.1781 1673 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1712.1781 (pause 1.04) 1713.2226 1674 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1713.2226 almost up 1713.6468 1675 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1713.6468 (pause 0.06) 1713.7028 1676 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1713.7028 near Maryland District line 1714.7513 1677 DCA_int_01 1714.8368 Mm-hm. 1715.2050 1678 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1715.0809 so I just come down Georgia Avenue 1716.4416 1679 DCA_int_01 1716.8177 Mm-hm. 1717.3257 1680 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1717.5661 and you just pick up 1718.2304 1681 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1718.2304 (pause 0.06) 1718.2864 1682 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1718.2864 any- as I said anybody that 1719.4044 1683 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1719.4044 (pause 0.18) 1719.5805 1684 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1719.5805 hails a cab. 1720.1768 1685 DCA_int_01 1720.4409 Mm-hm. 1720.9331 1686 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1720.7225 You have no idea where you're going or 1722.2623 1687 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1722.3272 how long you 1722.9368 1688 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1722.9368 (pause 0.09) 1723.0276 1689 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1723.0276 take you to get there like [this you just] 1724.5006 1690 DCA_int_01 1723.7359 [Mm-hm.] 1724.4040 1691 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1724.8324 start like that. 1725.3911 1692 DCA_int_01 1725.5129 Mm-hm. 1726.0702 1693 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1725.8491 And once you start rolling you just cruise 1727.3061 1694 DCA_int_01 1727.5459 Mm-hm. 1728.0219 1695 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1728.0061 like that. 1728.3863 1696 DCA_int_01 1729.7391 Do you usually have to 1730.7129 1697 DCA_int_01 1730.7129 (pause 0.30) 1731.0117 1698 DCA_int_01 1731.0117 wait 1731.4119 1699 DCA_int_01 1731.4119 (pause 0.26) 1731.6680 1700 DCA_int_01 1731.6680 very long between fares or does it usually keep busy? 1734.6271 1701 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1735.0298 Well that's like any business you 1736.6189 1702 DCA_int_01 1735.0378 /inaudible/ 1736.4383 1703 DCA_int_01 1736.4383 (pause 0.16) 1736.5945 1704 DCA_int_01 1736.5945 [Sometimes up, mm-hm.] 1738.5074 1705 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1736.7586 [have good days, you have bad days] slow days, fast days. 1739.8236 1706 DCA_int_01 1739.8895 Mm-hm. 1740.5034 1707 DCA_int_01 1740.5034 (pause 0.41) 1740.9155 1708 DCA_int_01 1740.9155 Is there any particular kind of day like weather or anything that makes it good or bad? 1744.8693 1709 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1747.4800 Weather doesn't make it particularly 1749.0401 1710 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1749.0401 (pause 0.20) 1749.2423 1711 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1749.2423 good. 1749.4824 1712 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1749.4824 (pause 0.66) 1750.1387 1713 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1750.1387 It can make it bad as well as good. 1751.3593 1714 DCA_int_01 1751.5168 Mm-hm. 1752.0175 1715 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1752.2372 Like a snowy day, you have plenty of business., 1753.8729 1716 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1753.8729 (pause 0.26) 1754.1315 1717 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1754.1315 rainy day you have plenty of business 1755.3401 1718 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1755.3401 (pause 0.04) 1755.3841 1719 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1755.3841 but you can't move 1756.0836 1720 DCA_int_01 1756.4606 Mm-hm. 1756.8968 1721 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1757.1169 so uh you have 1758.1016 1722 DCA_int_01 1758.1136 [People /??/] 1758.9916 1723 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1758.2216 [people crying] for a cab but you get the p- passenger, 1760.8228 1724 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1760.9629 could take you half hour forty five minutes to make uh 1762.9598 1725 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1762.9598 (pause 0.23) 1763.1882 1726 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1763.1882 one trip. 1763.6123 1727 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1763.6123 (pause 0.37) 1763.9805 1728 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1763.9805 So you- it's plenty of business 1765.1771 1729 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1765.1771 (pause 0.04) 1765.2211 1730 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1765.2211 there 1765.5492 1731 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1765.5492 (pause 0.06) 1765.6093 1732 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1765.6093 but you cannot 1766.2135 1733 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1766.2135 (pause 0.44) 1766.6578 1734 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1766.6578 [handle it.] 1767.1062 1735 DCA_int_01 1766.7353 [You won't] get it. 1767.5308 1736 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1767.6397 Right. 1767.8598 1737 DCA_int_01 1769.2044 Huh I never thought of it that way. 1770.6832 1738 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1770.6881 So good weather is better 1771.7809 1739 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1771.7809 (pause 0.20) 1771.9847 1740 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1771.9847 [for-] 1772.4128 1741 DCA_int_01 1772.0847 [Good] weather is better all [around?] 1773.4613 1742 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1773.1132 [for hacking] 1773.5294 1743 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1773.6054 all the way around yes. 1774.4631 1744 DCA_int_01 1774.4793 Hm /inaudible/ 1775.4241 1745 DCA_int_01 1775.4241 (pause 0.92) 1776.3442 1746 DCA_int_01 1776.3442 learn something new all the time 1777.8927 1747 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1777.7488 You know you take like we have uh group riding in Washington, 1780.1753 1748 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1780.6704 now if I can ride 1781.5228 1749 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1781.5228 (pause 0.94) 1782.4632 1750 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1782.4632 say from the Dupont Plaza where you saw me, 1784.3511 1751 DCA_int_01 1784.3751 Mm-hm. 1784.8113 1752 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1784.8953 to the Mayflower 1785.6757 1753 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1785.6757 (pause 0.16) 1785.8397 1754 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1785.8397 with five people, 1786.5961 1755 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1786.5961 (pause 0.11) 1786.7041 1756 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1786.7041 I pick up five people there and go to the Statler, 1788.4209 1757 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1788.4209 (pause 0.59) 1789.0067 1758 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1789.0067 and five people there to the Dupont Plaza 1790.3513 1759 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1790.3513 (pause 0.19) 1790.5394 1760 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1790.5394 a ride like this, 1791.2184 1761 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1791.2184 (pause 0.16) 1791.3798 1762 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1791.3798 well I'll make a bundle. 1792.2520 1763 DCA_int_01 1792.4363 Mm-hm. 1792.7964 1764 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1792.8805 But you get this once every ten years. 1794.4435 1765 DCA_int_01 1794.5895 Mm. 1796.3023 1766 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1794.8056 So therefore usually you get one going to the end of the city 1797.0906 1767 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1797.3390 for a dollar and fifty cents 1798.3839 1768 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1798.3839 (pause 0.18) 1798.5676 1769 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1798.5676 and by the time you get back you wasted an hour for a dollar and fifty cents. 1800.9549 1770 DCA_int_01 1801.0487 Mm-hm. 1801.4209 1771 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1801.3408 So in this th- 1801.9504 1772 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1802.0413 th- weather does not make 1803.0859 1773 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1803.0859 (pause 0.08) 1803.1697 1774 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1803.1697 business that 1803.6339 1775 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1803.6339 (pause 0.35) 1803.9863 1776 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1803.9863 uh 1804.4579 1777 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1804.4579 (pause 0.18) 1804.6426 1778 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1804.6426 that much 1805.2709 1779 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1805.2709 (pause 0.04) 1805.3149 1780 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1805.3149 better. 1805.6400 1781 DCA_int_01 1805.8311 Yeah it makes sense now that you explain it. 1807.6960 1782 DCA_int_01 1807.6960 (pause 1.04) 1808.7340 1783 DCA_int_01 1808.7340 It really does. 1809.5398 1784 DCA_int_01 1809.5398 (pause 1.41) 1810.9544 1785 DCA_int_01 1810.9544 How does your family celebrate Christmas? 1812.9925 1786 DCA_int_01 1812.9925 (pause 0.22) 1813.2110 1787 DCA_int_01 1813.2110 So starting with the day before and going through Christmas Day what all would you do? 1817.0448 1788 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1818.7030 Well the children they uh mostly 1820.7615 1789 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1820.7615 (pause 1.20) 1821.9580 1790 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1821.9580 wrapping their own presents for 1823.8330 1791 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1823.8330 (pause 1.03) 1824.8636 1792 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1824.8636 whomever they're giving them 1825.9593 1793 DCA_int_01 1826.0601 Mm-hm. 1826.5507 1794 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1827.0206 and 1827.5690 1795 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1827.5690 (pause 0.74) 1828.3094 1796 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1828.3094 the wife and I we're just 1829.3859 1797 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1829.3859 (pause 0.69) 1830.0782 1798 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1830.0782 making last uh 1831.3468 1799 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1831.3468 (pause 0.10) 1831.4428 1800 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1831.4428 minute preparations like uh maybe shopping or 1833.8362 1801 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1833.8362 (pause 0.06) 1833.8922 1802 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1833.8922 the tree or 1834.6835 1803 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1834.6835 (pause 0.50) 1835.1808 1804 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1835.1808 something like that, 1835.8077 1805 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1835.8077 (pause 1.05) 1836.8550 1806 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1836.8550 and the children go to bed 1837.7780 1807 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1837.7780 (pause 0.53) 1838.3117 1808 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1838.3117 and we stay up and put up the tree and 1839.9420 1809 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1839.9420 (pause 0.78) 1840.7183 1810 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1840.7183 decorate it 1841.2785 1811 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1841.2785 (pause 0.54) 1841.8188 1812 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1841.8188 and 1842.4559 1813 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1842.4559 (pause 0.11) 1842.5632 1814 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1842.5632 put the presents under and 1843.8572 1815 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1843.8572 (pause 0.48) 1844.3375 1816 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1844.3375 try to get to bed. 1845.0152 1817 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1845.0152 (pause 0.17) 1845.1859 1818 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1845.1859 If there's uh any time left, we'll get to bed. 1848.2944 1819 DCA_int_01 1845.2994 Mm-hm. 1846.2438 1820 DCA_int_01 1846.2438 (pause 1.30) 1847.5404 1821 DCA_int_01 1847.5404 1848.2472 1822 DCA_int_01 1848.4409 Uh-huh. 1849.1041 1823 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1848.7530 But mostly just uh 1849.5802 1824 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1850.7421 fixing up the 1851.5040 1825 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1851.5040 (pause 0.06) 1851.5665 1826 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1851.5665 tree and 1852.1775 1827 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1852.1775 (pause 0.05) 1852.2308 1828 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1852.2308 presents 1852.6910 1829 DCA_int_01 1852.6750 Mm-hm. 1853.2744 1830 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1853.2593 that's mostly- 1853.8151 1831 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1854.3920 and the house. 1855.1804 1832 DCA_int_01 1855.1844 Yeah. 1855.5206 1833 DCA_int_01 1855.5206 (pause 1.34) 1856.8612 1834 DCA_int_01 1856.8612 What happens the next day? 1857.9801 1835 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1858.5142 Christmas? 1859.0860 1836 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1859.0860 (pause 0.86) 1859.9468 1837 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1859.9468 Well, 1860.4431 1838 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1860.4431 (pause 1.20) 1861.6436 1839 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1861.6436 you just get a big uh 1862.6044 1840 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1862.6044 (pause 0.10) 1862.7016 1841 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1862.7016 charge out of seeing the smiley ha- smiling happy faces when they come downstairs, ooh eeh you know all like this 1868.5178 1842 DCA_int_01 1864.7120 Uh-huh. 1865.6244 1843 DCA_int_01 1865.6244 (pause 1.03) 1866.6569 1844 DCA_int_01 1866.6569 Ooh. 1868.9816 1845 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1869.3862 and unwrap the presents and 1871.1494 1846 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1871.1494 (pause 0.12) 1871.2674 1847 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1871.2674 you know laughing, talking, 1872.7839 1848 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1872.7839 (pause 0.11) 1872.8975 1849 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1872.8975 so forth and so on, 1873.6405 1850 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1873.6405 (pause 0.13) 1873.7739 1851 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1873.7739 that's about the 1874.4121 1852 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1874.4121 (pause 0.20) 1874.6143 1853 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1874.6143 next day- 1875.1345 1854 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1875.1345 (pause 0.14) 1875.2786 1855 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1875.2786 next morning, 1875.8997 1856 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1875.8997 (pause 1.12) 1877.0221 1857 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1877.0221 and as the day goes on you know you might have 1878.8667 1858 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1878.8667 (pause 0.19) 1879.0566 1859 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1879.0566 well naturally you have uh 1880.1251 1860 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1880.1251 (pause 0.88) 1881.0030 1861 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1881.0030 conversations you might look at television, might sing a carol, you might 1883.8763 1862 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1883.8763 (pause 0.36) 1884.2324 1863 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1884.2324 do anything til dinner's ready, 1885.3452 1864 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1885.3452 (pause 0.24) 1885.5857 1865 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1885.5857 and you eat dinner, 1886.2514 1866 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1886.2514 (pause 1.02) 1887.2736 1867 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1887.2736 and then 1887.7901 1868 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1887.7901 (pause 1.45) 1889.2390 1869 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1889.2390 that's about the day. 1889.9980 1870 DCA_int_01 1890.0036 Mm-hm. 1890.4607 1871 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1890.7199 Like that. 1891.0721 1872 DCA_int_01 1891.1601 Relatives visit each other that day? 1893.1396 1873 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1893.5212 Well 1893.9014 1874 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1893.9014 (pause 0.12) 1894.0214 1875 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1894.0214 /?/ all the relatives 1895.5220 1876 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1895.5220 (pause 0.13) 1895.6474 1877 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1895.6474 have their own families, 1896.6599 1878 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1896.6599 (pause 0.20) 1896.8560 1879 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1896.8560 so on Christmas Day itself 1898.3319 1880 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1898.3319 (pause 0.52) 1898.8529 1881 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1898.8529 we not- may not see 1899.8493 1882 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1899.8493 (pause 0.47) 1900.3216 1883 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1900.3216 many 1900.6177 1884 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1900.6177 (pause 0.21) 1900.8258 1885 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1900.8258 uh people 1901.4661 1886 DCA_int_01 1901.3840 Mm-hm. 1902.0590 1887 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1902.0803 but 1902.3124 1888 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1902.3124 (pause 0.05) 1902.3645 1889 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1902.3645 during the holidays 1903.3529 1890 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1903.3529 (pause 0.16) 1903.5170 1891 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1903.5170 we always see just about all of them. 1905.1778 1892 DCA_int_01 1905.3461 Mm-hm. 1905.8743 1893 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1905.8823 One will visit this hou- /??/ maybe everybody visit one house one night and then the next house 1909.4360 1894 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1909.4360 (pause 0.25) 1909.6881 1895 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1909.6881 so everybody sees everybody during the holidays, 1911.7025 1896 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1911.7025 (pause 0.27) 1911.9746 1897 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1911.9746 but on Christmas Day itself, 1913.1672 1898 DCA_int_01 1913.1474 You don't spend it with [/them?/] 1914.3798 1899 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1913.8957 [no] it's mostly family 1915.0045 1900 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1915.2283 right. 1915.4765 1901 DCA_int_01 1915.9687 Hm. 1916.3550 1902 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1916.5289 Or maybe a friend might drop in, 1918.0716 1903 DCA_int_01 1917.8951 Uh-huh. 1918.4683 1904 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1918.1352 it's mostly friends will drop in on Christmas Day 1919.8593 1905 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1920.0175 rather than family. 1920.6982 1906 DCA_int_01 1920.6886 Mm-hm. 1921.1167 1907 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1921.3889 Cause as I say everybody has a family with their own children and 1923.9881 1908 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1923.9881 (pause 0.41) 1924.4023 1909 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1924.4023 responsibilities and you know work and all this and 1926.8099 1910 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1926.8099 (pause 0.61) 1927.4159 1911 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1927.4159 they spend most of their time home. 1928.5393 1912 DCA_int_01 1928.8566 Hm. 1929.2007 1913 DCA_int_01 1929.2007 (pause 1.51) 1930.7137 1914 DCA_int_01 1930.7137 Different people do it different ways, some people Christmas is a big family day 1934.1502 1915 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1934.3994 True. 1934.8050 1916 DCA_int_01 1934.7130 /?/ for the big family not just their own. 1936.9663 1917 DCA_int_01 1937.6984 I think I like it better your way. 1939.7768 1918 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1938.9484 1940.2241 1919 DCA_int_01 1942.4463 What was the best thing you ever got for Christmas, do you remember? 1945.2951 1920 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1948.4025 Yeah when I was about uh 1949.8554 1921 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1949.8554 (pause 0.39) 1950.2436 1922 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1950.2436 fifteen years old, 1951.1880 1923 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1951.1880 (pause 0.99) 1952.1765 1924 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1952.1765 my sister was taking care of me 1953.3810 1925 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1953.3810 (pause 0.38) 1953.7627 1926 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1953.7627 my older sister 1954.6111 1927 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1954.6111 (pause 1.16) 1955.7676 1928 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1955.7676 and naturally being sort of a 1956.9962 1929 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1956.9962 (pause 0.26) 1957.2525 1930 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1957.2525 outsider you know and she had four children of her own, 1959.3859 1931 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1959.3859 (pause 0.27) 1959.6536 1932 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1959.6536 I expected something you always get a token you know for Christmas so what and so on but uh she gave me a watch, wristwatch. 1964.1539 1933 DCA_int_01 1964.2092 Mm. 1964.5387 1934 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1964.7710 And I was quite surprised and glad and everything else. 1966.9275 1935 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1966.9275 (pause 0.20) 1967.1321 1936 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1967.1321 I think that's the 1967.7590 1937 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1967.7590 (pause 0.75) 1968.5102 1938 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1968.5102 most surprising if not the best 1969.7988 1939 DCA_int_01 1969.8028 Mm-hm. 1970.2916 1940 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1970.3790 Christmas present I ever got. 1971.2208 1941 DCA_int_01 1971.3477 Hm. 1971.7787 1942 DCA_int_01 1971.7787 (pause 0.38) 1972.1561 1943 DCA_int_01 1972.1561 Good. 1972.5082 1944 DCA_int_01 1972.5082 (pause 1.30) 1973.8076 1945 DCA_int_01 1973.8076 Something a little more serious, were you ever in a situation where you thought that you might be killed or you might die? 1979.1263 1946 DCA_int_01 1979.1263 (pause 1.24) 1980.3643 1947 DCA_int_01 1980.3643 You thought you were in danger of dying? 1982.7054 1948 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1984.5025 I was in World War II in France where a sniper was shooting at us every uh 1987.6981 1949 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1987.6981 (pause 0.31) 1988.0096 1950 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1988.0096 other minute. 1988.6452 1951 DCA_int_01 1989.1101 Oh yeah? 1989.6557 1952 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1990.0745 I didn't think about dying I just realized I could be hurt 1992.1643 1953 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1992.1643 (pause 0.23) 1992.3931 1954 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1992.3931 but uh, 1992.8372 1955 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1992.8372 (pause 0.78) 1993.6176 1956 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1993.6176 no I've never been in a situation where I actually thought I was gonna die. 1995.4425 1957 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1995.4425 (pause 0.21) 1995.6508 1958 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1995.6508 No. 1995.8869 1959 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1995.8869 (pause 1.12) 1997.0114 1960 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1997.0114 I mean I knew I was in situations where 1998.3154 1961 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1998.3154 (pause 0.71) 1999.0284 1962 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1999.0284 I could be killed, 1999.7127 1963 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 1999.7127 (pause 0.79) 2000.5025 1964 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2000.5025 but I never thought about 2001.2829 1965 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2001.2829 (pause 0.89) 2002.1753 1966 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2002.1753 dying, 2002.5497 1967 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2002.5497 (pause 0.37) 2002.9237 1968 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2002.9237 that I'd be 2003.3198 1969 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2003.3198 (pause 0.32) 2003.6400 1970 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2003.6400 killed, no. 2004.2132 1971 DCA_int_01 2004.2965 Mm-hm. 2004.7407 1972 DCA_int_01 2004.7407 (pause 1.48) 2006.2214 1973 DCA_int_01 2006.2214 Sometimes people say that 2007.3505 1974 DCA_int_01 2007.3505 (pause 1.12) 2008.4707 1975 DCA_int_01 2008.4707 whatever's gonna happen in the future is gonna happen, you can't do anything about it, do you agree with that? 2012.7446 1976 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2012.7289 I'm pretty much of a fatalist in that way. 2014.3416 1977 DCA_int_01 2014.4977 Mm-hm. 2015.0912 1978 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2015.3781 I mean I'm not gonna go out here and try to be reckless to the point of trying fate, 2018.8364 1979 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2018.8364 (pause 0.45) 2019.2854 1980 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2019.2854 but I do believe that uh 2020.7352 1981 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2020.7352 (pause 0.96) 2021.6907 1982 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2021.6907 very much what is gonna happen to you is going to 2023.9077 1983 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2023.9077 (pause 0.08) 2023.9838 1984 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2023.9838 happen. 2024.3049 1985 DCA_int_01 2024.6163 Mm-hm. 2025.1285 1986 DCA_int_01 2025.1285 (pause 1.07) 2026.2010 1987 DCA_int_01 2026.2010 You wouldn't try to 2027.0558 1988 DCA_int_01 2027.0558 (pause 0.40) 2027.4591 1989 DCA_int_01 2027.4591 change too much of - 2028.7157 1990 DCA_int_01 2028.7157 (pause 0.32) 2029.0318 1991 DCA_int_01 2029.0318 of the future? 2029.8721 1992 DCA_int_01 2029.8721 (pause 1.11) 2030.9847 1993 DCA_int_01 2030.9847 Would you? 2031.3969 1994 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2032.5497 You mean as far as day to day living is concerned? 2034.2120 1995 DCA_int_01 2034.9788 Mm. 2035.4082 1996 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2035.5871 Well, 2036.0892 1997 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2036.0892 (pause 0.70) 2036.7851 1998 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2036.7851 only thing that I do dangerous is drive and I'm not gonna stop driving 2041.0311 1999 DCA_int_01 2038.8781 2040.6989 2000 DCA_int_01 2041.1593 Mm-hm. 2041.6716 2001 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2041.6956 So no I 2042.6229 2002 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2042.6229 (pause 1.20) 2043.8206 2003 DCA_se2_ag3_m_03 2043.8206 wouldn't do anything to change the future, no. 2045.5505