Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 0.0074 /Wife/ used to say I talk too much but- 2.7072 2 DCA_int_01 2.7911 No, it's great. 3.7284 3 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 3.8216 Mm. 4.2320 4 DCA_int_01 4.7962 Some people it's like pulling teeth to get them to say anything. 7.8819 5 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 7.9378 Oh yeah? 8.3295 6 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 8.3295 (pause 0.23) 8.5580 7 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 8.5580 Hm. 8.9310 8 DCA_int_01 9.5372 Makes it easier for the person /??/. 12.4842 9 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 13.1498 Well, not- the incident that I was talking about, uh, as a kid, 16.9228 10 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 16.9228 (pause 0.41) 17.3371 11 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 17.3371 I can remember at- 18.6427 12 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 18.6427 (pause 0.61) 19.2570 13 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 19.2570 well, prior to nineteen fifty 21.5559 14 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 21.5559 (pause 0.23) 21.7890 15 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 21.7890 four, I believe, in Washington, 23.1879 16 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 23.1879 (pause 0.15) 23.3371 17 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 23.3371 uh, as you know, there were segregated playgrounds and what have you. 26.3528 18 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 26.3528 (pause 0.83) 27.1782 19 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 27.1782 And uh, we used- used to be a group of us that used to play ball together, 31.3095 20 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 31.3095 (pause 0.23) 31.5415 21 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 31.5415 and um, I remember one fella's name. I don't remember the rest of 'em's name- 35.4024 22 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 35.4024 (pause 0.28) 35.6868 23 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 35.6868 the- remember their nicknames, but I don't remember their real names, but I remember one particular fella, 40.3299 24 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 40.3299 (pause 0.47) 40.8008 25 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 40.8008 /RD-NAME-2/. 41.3844 26 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 41.3844 (pause 0.77) 42.1531 27 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 42.1531 And uh, 42.8479 28 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 42.8479 (pause 0.42) 43.2710 29 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 43.2710 we used to play on this little park that I was telling you about earlier, 46.7262 30 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 46.7262 (pause 0.24) 46.9687 31 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 46.9687 uh, up on, uh, First between New York Avenue and uh- 50.7165 32 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 50.7165 (pause 1.19) 51.9056 33 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 51.9056 New York Avenue, Elm Street and First Street. 54.1578 34 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 54.1578 (pause 0.40) 54.5588 35 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 54.5588 But there was a 55.6954 36 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 55.6954 (pause 0.22) 55.9192 37 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 55.9192 uh, white pray- playground 58.1020 38 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 58.1020 (pause 0.47) 58.5677 39 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 58.5677 right there at um, 59.8547 40 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 59.8547 (pause 0.63) 60.4888 41 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 60.4888 First and O, and First and 62.3062 42 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 62.3062 (pause 0.63) 62.9357 43 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 62.9357 New York Avenue. 63.8496 44 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 63.8496 (pause 1.15) 65.0014 45 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 65.0014 And every evening, we used to get on the playground and play ball, 68.6139 46 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 68.6139 (pause 0.18) 68.7911 47 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 68.7911 and the recreation 70.3625 48 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 70.3625 (pause 0.30) 70.6610 49 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 70.6610 um, people would come on duty after working hours or what have you, 74.3855 50 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 74.3855 (pause 0.88) 75.2621 51 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 75.2621 and they would chase us off. 77.1506 52 DCA_int_01 77.7847 Hm. 78.0645 53 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 78.0831 And um, the white fellows used to run just like we did. They didn't know wh- Well, I don't know whether they knew why they were running, or just what, but they used to run (laughing while talking)- 85.2349 54 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 85.2349 (pause 0.26) 85.4995 55 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 85.4995 and I know it- wh- wh- Many a time, that uh, 88.7309 56 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 88.7309 (pause 0.24) 88.9734 57 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 88.9734 we have had torn pants and what have you from running, jumping over the playground fence 94.0781 58 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 94.0781 (pause 0.38) 94.4605 59 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 94.4605 to get to the 95.3324 60 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 95.3324 (pause 0.41) 95.7428 61 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 95.7428 um, 96.3956 62 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 96.3956 (pause 0.95) 97.3456 63 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 97.3456 lot behind the uh, 99.1735 64 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 99.1735 (pause 0.20) 99.3740 65 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 99.3740 school, uh, behind the paper- 101.4070 66 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 101.4070 (pause 0.91) 102.3163 67 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 102.3163 Andrew's Paper Place, I believe. Andrew's Paper Factory or something of that sort, 106.6003 68 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 106.6003 (pause 0.79) 107.3884 69 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 107.3884 um, 108.0412 70 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 108.0412 (pause 0.60) 108.6415 71 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 108.6415 to play ball because we couldn't play on the playground. 112.0641 72 DCA_int_01 113.0806 Sounds so [/incredulous/.] 114.5816 73 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 114.2417 [] Well it does, really. Now, what- L- looking at my children, they s- 118.4045 74 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 118.5724 take so many of these things for granted. They go to concerts. They 122.0031 75 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 122.0031 (pause 0.40) 122.4041 76 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 122.4041 play on the playground. They um- 124.3532 77 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 124.3532 (pause 0.35) 124.6983 78 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 124.6983 So many of these things, they don't even know anything about that- I don't think- about that. I never remind 'em up, and I don't bring it up, you know. 130.3252 79 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 130.3252 (pause 0.49) 130.8148 80 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 130.8148 And the only uh, reminder that they get, generally, of course, is through television and 136.9361 81 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 136.9361 (pause 0.58) 137.5189 82 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 137.5189 the 137.9386 83 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 137.9386 (pause 0.54) 138.4791 84 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 138.4791 times that we're having now of course. But, 141.1409 85 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 141.1409 (pause 0.73) 141.8729 86 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 141.8729 the- by the same token, I want them to be aware of it. I'm not- 144.7080 87 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 144.7080 (pause 0.14) 144.8479 88 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 144.8479 Don't misunderstand me. I'm not uh, trying to hide anything from 'em, but I don't uh- 149.0487 89 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 149.0487 (pause 0.35) 149.3938 90 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 149.3938 If we s- if I talk about now, I talk about it jokingly. Matter of fact, I've seen one of the fellas, uh- 154.5731 91 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 154.5731 (pause 1.20) 155.7703 92 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 155.7703 uh!- uh- er- Very strange thing happened. Um, 159.2022 93 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 159.2022 (pause 0.85) 160.0555 94 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 160.0555 an, uh- 160.6570 95 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 160.6570 (pause 0.38) 161.0347 96 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 161.0347 over on um, 161.9813 97 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 161.9813 (pause 0.21) 162.1958 98 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 162.1958 Perry Street. I lived on Perry Street in Northeast, 164.3209 99 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 164.3209 (pause 0.82) 165.1416 100 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 165.1416 and uh, 166.1721 101 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 166.1721 (pause 0.28) 166.4565 102 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 166.4565 police knocked on the door, um, 168.5268 103 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 168.5268 (pause 0.21) 168.7355 104 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 168.7355 collecting for the Police Boys Club. 170.5074 105 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 170.5074 (pause 1.50) 172.0089 106 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 172.0089 And he said, uh, I know you from somewhere, you know. I can't uh, 176.1204 107 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 176.1204 (pause 0.97) 177.0950 108 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 177.0950 place your face, you know. Have uh, you been in prison [recently? ] 180.4371 109 DCA_int_01 179.9755 [] 181.2857 110 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 181.0992 I said, well, I don't- 182.1857 111 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 182.6147 maybe I have. I don't- I didn't recall whether I'd be in there for any particular reason or not, but uh, 187.8873 112 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 187.8873 (pause 0.36) 188.2463 113 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 188.2463 anyway, haps- We were talking. 190.1115 114 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 190.1115 (pause 0.79) 190.8995 115 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 190.8995 He lived at forty eight or forty nine or fifty one 194.9970 116 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 194.9970 (pause 0.31) 195.3094 117 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 195.3094 New York Avenue, and I lived at forty nine Elm Street. 198.4616 118 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 198.4616 (pause 1.12) 199.5842 119 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 199.5842 And uh, 200.5214 120 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 200.5214 (pause 0.60) 201.1183 121 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 201.1183 we 201.6918 122 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 201.6918 (pause 1.13) 202.8249 123 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 202.8249 uh, 203.3798 124 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 203.3798 (pause 0.42) 203.7994 125 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 203.7994 had played together as kids. 205.5795 126 DCA_int_01 205.9292 Hm. 206.3023 127 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 206.1717 He didn't know my name. I didn't know his, uh, other than maybe nicknames. 209.9253 128 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 210.5723 And uh, then we started talking about uh, 213.1602 129 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 213.1602 (pause 0.21) 213.3654 130 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 213.3654 different things that happened over the years, and some of the incidents that happened down on uh- 219.0297 131 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 219.0297 (pause 0.64) 219.6732 132 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 219.6732 in that area, 220.6384 133 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 220.6384 (pause 0.49) 221.1280 134 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 221.1280 and of course he happened to be 223.6308 135 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 223.6308 (pause 0.23) 223.8639 136 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 223.8639 patrolling the 225.0996 137 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 225.0996 (pause 0.14) 225.2442 138 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 225.2442 Fourth Street, Rhode Island Avenue and that area now. And this was some of the area that we used to come into as kids. 231.7617 139 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 231.7617 (pause 0.97) 232.7316 140 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 232.7316 And um, 233.6316 141 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 233.6316 (pause 0.63) 234.2646 142 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 234.2646 I had gr- My grandparent that lived on uh, Elm Street, and this is one that through the years, uh 240.0176 143 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 240.0176 (pause 0.89) 240.9034 144 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 240.9034 even though I lived most of my time- I went to school in Anacostia, 244.9042 145 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 244.9042 (pause 0.36) 245.2632 146 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 245.2632 through the years, I 246.2564 147 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 246.2564 (pause 0.14) 246.3951 148 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 246.3951 still frequented 247.6168 149 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 247.6168 (pause 0.28) 247.9012 150 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 247.9012 the uh, Northwest area. This 249.9436 151 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 249.9436 (pause 0.53) 250.4752 152 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 250.4752 area bounded by uh, 251.9300 153 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 251.9300 (pause 0.56) 252.4931 154 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 252.4931 North Cal Street, New York Avenue, and what have you. 254.9084 155 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 254.9084 (pause 0.99) 255.8970 156 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 255.8970 And uh, 256.6290 157 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 256.6290 (pause 0.94) 257.5698 158 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 257.5698 we talked about uh, 259.0992 159 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 259.0992 (pause 1.24) 260.3442 160 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 260.3442 some of the things we used to do, and the ball playing and 263.2492 161 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 263.2492 (pause 0.69) 263.9428 162 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 263.9428 the incidents that happened back then that of course, we had no 267.8270 163 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 267.8270 (pause 0.20) 268.0275 164 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 268.0275 rhyme or reason for it that particular time, but now that we are older, look back on, we know why they happened and 275.1793 165 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 275.1793 (pause 0.40) 275.5803 166 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 275.5803 what have you. 276.1911 167 DCA_int_01 276.3205 It's incredible. 277.1785 168 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 277.1692 Mm-hm. 277.7614 169 DCA_int_01 278.0598 That's a great story. 279.0903 170 DCA_int_01 279.0903 (pause 1.24) 280.3260 171 DCA_int_01 280.3260 Um, 280.7922 172 DCA_int_01 280.7922 (pause 0.73) 281.5243 173 DCA_int_01 281.5243 did any of- 282.1631 174 DCA_int_01 282.1631 (pause 0.69) 282.8521 175 DCA_int_01 282.8521 /see/- 283.5562 176 DCA_int_01 283.5562 (pause 0.32) 283.8779 177 DCA_int_01 283.8779 taking the- 284.4841 178 DCA_int_01 284.4841 (pause 0.56) 285.0483 179 DCA_int_01 285.0483 your whole lifetime, 286.3213 180 DCA_int_01 286.3213 (pause 0.50) 286.8249 181 DCA_int_01 286.8249 have you ever been close to anyone who spoke a foreign language 289.6875 182 DCA_int_01 289.6875 (pause 0.34) 290.0271 183 DCA_int_01 290.0271 as their mother tongue? 291.7711 184 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 292.1348 Yes, um, 293.2399 185 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 293.2399 (pause 0.59) 293.8274 186 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 293.8274 uh, the lady that I was spoke of, uh, earlier, 296.8805 187 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 296.8805 (pause 0.66) 297.5379 188 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 297.5379 um, that I worked with for the last 299.3704 189 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 299.3704 (pause 0.59) 299.9615 190 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 299.9615 twelve years or so- ten or twelve years, off and on, but now we are are working uh- 304.5311 191 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 304.5311 (pause 0.81) 305.3378 192 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 305.3378 She's- I'm the coordinator, and she's in charge of training, 309.1556 193 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 309.1556 (pause 0.34) 309.4913 194 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 309.4913 and she's Austrian. 311.4637 195 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 311.4637 (pause 0.71) 312.1760 196 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 312.1760 And uh, 313.0060 197 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 313.0060 (pause 0.51) 313.5189 198 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 313.5189 she speaks um, 314.7359 199 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 314.7359 (pause 0.85) 315.5846 200 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 315.5846 Austrian- 316.4612 201 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 316.4612 (pause 0.57) 317.0301 202 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 317.0301 I mean uh, German and 318.3124 203 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 318.3124 (pause 0.38) 318.6936 204 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 318.6936 French. 319.3184 205 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 319.3184 (pause 0.85) 320.1717 206 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 320.1717 Uh, we both have had Russian. She- uh, she knows S- Czechoslovakian. 325.5002 207 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 325.5002 (pause 0.85) 326.3536 208 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 326.3536 Um, 327.1509 209 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 327.1509 (pause 0.74) 327.8923 210 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 327.8923 what else? 328.4565 211 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 328.4565 (pause 1.44) 329.8927 212 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 329.8927 Um, 330.7447 213 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 330.7447 (pause 1.17) 331.9106 214 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 331.9106 several of uh, 332.7452 215 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 332.7452 (pause 1.01) 333.7571 216 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 333.7571 the languages- related languages- Slavic languages, 336.7728 217 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 336.7728 (pause 0.80) 337.5702 218 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 337.5702 and uh, but her native tongue is German of course. Mm-hm. 341.2259 219 DCA_int_01 342.7588 Can you tell it when she speaks? Is her English /pretty good/? 346.8715 220 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 347.1699 Uh, certain things, uh- of course, after- a- a- after you've been 352.0555 221 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 352.0555 (pause 0.48) 352.5311 222 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 352.5311 associated with a person over a period of time, you get to a point where you 356.1577 223 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 356.1577 (pause 0.38) 356.5354 224 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 356.5354 ignore it. You don't pay [any attention] to it, but I notice every once in awhile, she will say /yah/. 361.1319 225 DCA_int_01 357.4027 [Yeah.] 357.7804 226 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 361.8033 Uh, and uh, 363.3794 227 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 363.3794 (pause 1.16) 364.5358 228 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 364.5358 uh, she- 365.5430 229 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 365.5430 (pause 0.46) 366.0034 230 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 366.0034 let me see. 366.8008 231 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 366.8008 (pause 0.64) 367.4443 232 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 367.4443 She uses 368.1717 233 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 368.1717 (pause 0.26) 368.4282 234 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 368.4282 uh, idioms of course still. Uh, 370.9508 235 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 370.9508 (pause 0.21) 371.1606 236 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 371.1606 /gosh and hemel/ 371.9347 237 DCA_int_01 372.3765 [Mm-hm.] 372.7682 238 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 372.4324 [And] uh, things of that sort. Um, but I think a lot of times, she does this, 377.0953 239 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 377.3565 purposely playing. And- 378.6113 240 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 378.6113 (pause 0.87) 379.4769 241 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 379.4769 but um, 380.4421 242 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 380.4421 (pause 0.72) 381.1649 243 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 381.1649 sh- We have um, 382.5778 244 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 382.5778 (pause 0.75) 383.3285 245 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 383.3285 been associated together for many many years, and 386.4282 246 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 386.4282 (pause 0.28) 386.7079 247 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 386.7079 we consider ourselves very good friends. 389.0254 248 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 389.0254 (pause 1.65) 390.6749 249 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 390.6749 Matter of fact, she calls sometimes on the telephone, and uh, 393.9063 250 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 393.9063 (pause 0.63) 394.5405 251 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 394.5405 we talk for an hour or two, and it starts off maybe about something at work, and then it goes into 400.6850 252 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 400.6850 (pause 0.80) 401.4870 253 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 401.4870 a concert or a play or [a movie or] a book. 405.3328 254 DCA_int_01 403.9432 [] 404.7965 255 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 405.7058 I have a number of her books. She has a number of mine. 408.2424 256 DCA_int_01 408.6143 Hm. 408.8381 257 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 408.8428 So, w- we have 410.2043 258 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 410.2043 (pause 0.18) 410.3862 259 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 410.3862 had this relationship for a number of years now. 412.7223 260 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 412.7223 (pause 0.28) 413.0067 261 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 413.0067 Mm-hm. 413.5290 262 DCA_int_01 415.2904 Um, 415.7940 263 DCA_int_01 415.7940 (pause 1.79) 417.5799 264 DCA_int_01 417.5799 would you change anything? Say if you could do it all over again- 420.8521 265 DCA_int_01 420.8521 (pause 2.94) 423.7897 266 DCA_int_01 423.7897 Be at that young age where 425.3518 267 DCA_int_01 425.3518 (pause 0.76) 426.1107 268 DCA_int_01 426.1107 a young man makes his decisions and [/inaudible/] 429.5473 269 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 428.2789 [I think so.] Um, 429.7151 270 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 429.9529 my interests- I think that- 432.3543 271 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 432.3543 (pause 0.40) 432.7495 272 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 432.7495 I've always wanted to um- 434.7452 273 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 434.7452 (pause 1.79) 436.5311 274 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 436.5311 I used to have a desire to be a um, 438.7447 275 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 438.7447 (pause 0.50) 439.2484 276 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 439.2484 uh, college professor. Uh, I wanted to teach History, 442.6570 277 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 442.6570 (pause 0.65) 443.3052 278 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 443.3052 but I never had the uh, 445.2764 279 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 445.2764 (pause 0.55) 445.8313 280 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 445.8313 inclination to um, 447.7664 281 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 447.7664 (pause 1.46) 449.2259 282 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 449.2259 do as much 450.9220 283 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 450.9220 (pause 0.71) 451.6308 284 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 451.6308 um, studying, in the area- Or concentrated study, 454.8762 285 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 454.8762 (pause 0.80) 455.6782 286 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 455.6782 to um, 456.8661 287 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 456.8661 (pause 1.53) 458.3955 288 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 458.3955 prepare myself for this. 459.7244 289 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 459.7244 (pause 0.58) 460.3073 290 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 460.3073 Uh, I don't know whether it's because uh, 462.4511 291 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 462.4511 (pause 0.78) 463.2298 292 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 463.2298 that I wanted to do things too fast or just what it was, but I think now, 467.0813 293 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 467.0813 (pause 0.47) 467.5476 294 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 467.5476 as I look back over the years, if I had just spent uh, 470.6753 295 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 470.6753 (pause 0.43) 471.1089 296 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 471.1089 a concentrated 472.1907 297 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 472.1907 (pause 0.54) 472.7316 298 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 472.7316 six or seven years in school, that um, possibly I would have- 477.0810 299 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 477.0810 (pause 1.00) 478.0788 300 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 478.0788 be in a- in this area now. I'm not sure of it- this would have been the direction that I would have gone, but uh, 483.8270 301 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 483.8270 (pause 0.54) 484.3633 302 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 484.3633 I do like history. I like s- s- civics. I like um, 487.6261 303 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 487.6261 (pause 0.33) 487.9572 304 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 487.9572 um, 488.5354 305 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 488.5354 (pause 0.71) 489.2488 306 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 489.2488 government. Uh, 490.6337 307 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 490.6337 (pause 0.40) 491.0301 308 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 491.0301 I have uh- 491.8647 309 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 491.8647 (pause 0.48) 492.3438 310 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 492.3438 I did work in uh, 493.6261 311 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 493.6261 (pause 0.50) 494.1251 312 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 494.1251 the- 494.4188 313 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 494.4188 (pause 0.84) 495.2628 314 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 495.2628 party, um- 496.2187 315 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 496.2187 (pause 0.21) 496.4332 316 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 496.4332 politics a little bit. Um, the- 498.2086 317 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 498.2086 (pause 1.04) 499.2438 318 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 499.2438 by being a federal employee, I couldn't participate too actively, but uh, 503.5243 319 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 503.5243 (pause 0.17) 503.6969 320 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 503.6969 I did 504.1911 321 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 504.1911 (pause 1.21) 505.3977 322 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 505.3977 um, 505.8686 323 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 505.8686 (pause 0.63) 506.5028 324 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 506.5028 in nineteen sixty and nineteen sixty four, 508.7596 325 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 508.7596 (pause 0.56) 509.3192 326 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 509.3192 work actively in uh, 511.2158 327 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 511.2158 (pause 0.79) 512.0038 328 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 512.0038 politics as- 513.2255 329 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 513.2255 (pause 0.38) 513.6032 330 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 513.6032 Behind the scenes, 514.6197 331 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 514.6197 (pause 0.13) 514.7503 332 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 514.7503 so to s- speak. 515.8041 333 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 515.8041 (pause 0.94) 516.7402 334 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 516.7402 And um, 517.6075 335 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 517.6075 (pause 0.28) 517.8826 336 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 517.8826 I had a very interesting experience just this- earlier part of this year. I uh, 522.7447 337 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 522.7447 (pause 1.30) 524.0458 338 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 524.0458 um, 524.6007 339 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 524.6007 (pause 0.59) 525.1882 340 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 525.1882 had a- was put in the hospital for a minor 527.9347 341 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 527.9347 (pause 0.38) 528.3159 342 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 528.3159 operation, 529.0573 343 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 529.0573 (pause 0.58) 529.6355 344 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 529.6355 and my roommate was chairman of uh, 532.4379 345 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 532.4379 (pause 0.72) 533.1560 346 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 533.1560 uh, History Department at one of the Universities [here in the city.] 536.4794 347 DCA_int_01 535.7334 [Hm.] 536.1717 348 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 537.2442 And uh, he uh, had written a book, um, 541.0106 349 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 541.0106 (pause 0.57) 541.5842 350 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 541.5842 um, I considered a- an authority on it- He is considered an authority in uh, 546.1445 351 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 546.1445 (pause 0.22) 546.3672 352 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 546.3672 Latin Ameri- American affairs, 548.0831 353 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 548.0831 (pause 0.90) 548.9830 354 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 548.9830 and uh, we used to have some very interesting discussions in the school. You may- you might be thinking /RD-NAME-4/? 555.3794 355 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 555.3794 (pause 0.34) 555.7151 356 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 555.7151 Professor /RD-NAME-4/? Do you know him? Doctor /RD-NAME-4/? 558.0279 357 DCA_int_01 558.5956 Seems like I've heard of that /name/. 560.3209 358 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 559.7940 [Mm-hm.] 560.3256 359 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 560.5354 /Up/ at George Washington University. 561.9949 360 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 561.9949 (pause 1.21) 563.2026 361 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 563.2026 But anyhow, we- we were roommates, and we had very interesting discussions. 567.8783 362 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 567.8783 (pause 1.36) 569.2352 363 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 569.2352 And um, 570.4031 364 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 570.4031 (pause 1.52) 571.9199 365 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 571.9199 I think that a lot of things that he was asking me, he was asking me from the Negro stand point of- 576.7822 366 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 576.7822 (pause 0.14) 576.9220 367 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 576.9220 point of view. And then uh, 578.7312 368 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 578.7312 (pause 0.61) 579.3421 369 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 579.3421 uh, 579.9343 370 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 579.9343 (pause 0.88) 580.8156 371 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 580.8156 then after we warmed up to each other, and he probably got to s- 584.5634 372 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 584.5634 (pause 0.50) 585.0670 373 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 585.0670 th- You know, 586.2514 374 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 586.2514 (pause 0.13) 586.3772 375 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 586.3772 the feeling- I mean uh, 587.6502 376 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 587.6502 (pause 0.56) 588.2133 377 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 588.2133 how I felt about these things, then uh, we were- 591.0856 378 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 591.0856 (pause 0.20) 591.2861 379 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 591.2861 and I got to know how he felt about the /certain/ things, 594.1946 380 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 594.1946 (pause 0.38) 594.5770 381 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 594.5770 we were able to discuss uh, 597.1183 382 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 597.1183 (pause 0.56) 597.6825 383 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 597.6825 the overall s- world situation without too many reservations . 602.6427 384 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 602.6427 (pause 0.19) 602.8338 385 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 602.8338 [But uh, he was picking me] first, and I was [picking him.] 605.8088 386 DCA_int_01 602.8618 [/inaudible/] 604.1021 387 DCA_int_01 604.1021 (pause 1.05) 605.1513 388 DCA_int_01 605.1513 [] 605.9626 389 DCA_int_01 606.6982 Yeah. 607.1972 390 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 607.2671 But uh, 608.1857 391 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 608.1857 (pause 0.18) 608.3675 392 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 608.3675 we- I enjoyed- I enjoyed my hospital stay, and uh, 611.8694 393 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 611.8694 (pause 1.04) 612.9127 394 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 612.9127 um, I've talked to him since then. 615.2908 395 DCA_int_01 615.5333 Hm. 615.7711 396 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 615.8037 Mm. 616.3819 397 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 616.3819 (pause 1.18) 617.5663 398 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 617.5663 Mm-hm. 618.0839 399 DCA_int_01 620.3815 Um, 620.8618 400 DCA_int_01 620.8618 (pause 1.24) 622.0975 401 DCA_int_01 622.0975 try to use your imagination a little on this. If you had all the money you could want, 625.8360 402 DCA_int_01 625.8360 (pause 1.03) 626.8618 403 DCA_int_01 626.8618 can you have any idea how you spend it? 629.0627 404 DCA_int_01 629.0627 (pause 0.24) 629.3052 405 DCA_int_01 629.3052 What you would do with it? 630.4837 406 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 631.5609 Well, I think maybe my, 633.3654 407 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 633.3654 (pause 0.99) 634.3586 408 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 634.3586 um, 634.9042 409 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 634.9042 (pause 0.93) 635.8356 410 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 635.8356 capitalist- I'd try to make more money probably. But uh, I don't know. I probably would travel, 641.7575 411 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 641.7575 (pause 0.30) 642.0594 412 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 642.0594 uh, quite a bit. 643.0340 413 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 643.0340 (pause 1.34) 644.3722 414 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 644.3722 Uh, I would like to travel. 645.8970 415 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 645.8970 (pause 0.48) 646.3772 416 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 646.3772 Uh, I would like to make girls around while they are at an impressionable age, and while they are young, 651.3607 417 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 651.3607 (pause 0.61) 651.9669 418 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 651.9669 and um, let them see the world. 654.1305 419 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 654.1305 (pause 0.60) 654.7309 420 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 654.7309 See some of the people that they're reading about and d- and discussing. 658.0275 421 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 658.0275 (pause 1.10) 659.1233 422 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 659.1233 Um, 659.7481 423 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 659.7481 (pause 1.07) 660.8195 424 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 660.8195 I 661.4023 425 DCA_int_01 661.7567 [Where would you like] to go and- 663.0110 426 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 661.7660 [don't-] 662.3815 427 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 664.6057 I'd 665.0254 428 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 665.0254 (pause 0.25) 665.2725 429 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 665.2725 probably would go both to the Orient and to the um, um, 669.1742 430 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 669.1742 (pause 0.82) 669.9949 431 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 669.9949 Europe. Uh- 671.0534 432 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 671.0534 (pause 0.35) 671.4078 433 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 671.4078 My grandfather spent quite a few years in the Orient, and- During the Spanish American War and after Spanish American War. Matter fact he spent ten year- ten years in the Orient. 679.9525 434 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 679.9525 (pause 0.67) 680.6193 435 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 680.6193 And he- And I think maybe this is where my interest in history came from. 684.6143 436 DCA_int_01 684.6702 Mm-hm. 685.1039 437 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 685.2018 Um, 685.7753 438 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 685.7753 (pause 0.58) 686.3535 439 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 686.3535 we used to talk 687.2208 440 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 687.2208 (pause 0.25) 687.4680 441 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 687.4680 extensively 688.4285 442 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 688.4285 (pause 0.36) 688.7876 443 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 688.7876 about uh- Maybe that's where I 690.4289 444 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 690.4289 (pause 0.33) 690.7588 445 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 690.7588 u- g- 691.0526 446 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 691.0526 (pause 0.55) 691.6028 447 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 691.6028 talk so much 692.1810 448 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 692.1810 (pause 0.63) 692.8152 449 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 692.8152 about that- (laughing) 693.6079 450 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 693.6079 (pause 0.21) 693.8223 451 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 693.8223 We used to talk extensively about um, 696.4989 452 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 696.4989 (pause 0.56) 697.0619 453 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 697.0619 his experiences and uh, his travels. 699.8876 454 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 699.8876 (pause 0.99) 700.8762 455 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 700.8762 And um, 701.7621 456 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 701.7621 (pause 0.69) 702.4511 457 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 702.4511 i- 702.6889 458 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 702.6889 (pause 0.24) 702.9267 459 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 702.9267 sometimes in some of the uh, things that he 705.9156 460 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 705.9156 (pause 0.98) 706.8995 461 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 706.8995 um, 707.4404 462 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 707.4404 (pause 0.76) 708.2004 463 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 708.2004 foresaw, I guess, 710.0691 464 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 710.0691 (pause 0.26) 710.3256 465 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 710.3256 some of the things that he talked about that would happen and did happen 713.4450 466 DCA_int_01 713.5849 Hm. 713.8880 467 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 714.0372 um, way back in the- during World War II. And he talked about things that would happen after World War II, 720.1118 468 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 720.1118 (pause 0.38) 720.4884 469 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 720.4884 and sure enough, uh, a lot of them have come to pass. 723.3887 470 DCA_int_01 723.7897 /Certainly/. 724.3772 471 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 724.3866 But um, 725.3611 472 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 725.3611 (pause 0.38) 725.7388 473 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 725.7388 and I think possibly- I don't know whether I attribute this to his travels or just to uh, 731.7376 474 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 731.7376 (pause 0.84) 732.5770 475 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 732.5770 um, 733.1878 476 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 733.1878 (pause 1.15) 734.3349 477 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 734.3349 I don't know what you attribute it to, but I would like to travel, 737.5045 478 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 737.5045 (pause 0.21) 737.7097 479 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 737.7097 and uh, possibly- 738.9547 480 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 738.9547 (pause 0.97) 739.9199 481 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 739.9199 That's about the thing that I- 741.5473 482 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 741.5473 (pause 0.35) 741.9016 483 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 741.9016 Oh, of course- 743.1280 484 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 743.1280 (pause 0.20) 743.3238 485 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 743.3238 um- 744.1305 486 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 744.1305 (pause 0.37) 744.5024 487 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 744.5024 I dare say that maybe a few more materials things than I have, but there are no 749.2539 488 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 749.2539 (pause 0.28) 749.5383 489 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 749.5383 overall material things that- 751.1971 490 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 751.1971 (pause 0.78) 751.9758 491 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 751.9758 /essentual/, as far as I'm concerned to 754.4239 492 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 754.4239 (pause 0.20) 754.6197 493 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 754.6197 life, but uh, 756.0326 494 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 756.0326 (pause 0.29) 756.3205 495 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 756.3205 I probably would have them. 759.0157 496 DCA_int_01 759.5286 Getting 'em easy. 760.4425 497 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 760.5731 Mm-mm. 761.0300 498 DCA_int_01 762.9826 Now, 763.3650 499 DCA_int_01 763.3650 (pause 0.34) 763.7007 500 DCA_int_01 763.7007 could you describe what you do in a day's work on your job? /Or jobs/? 767.5031 501 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 768.3998 Well um, 769.4956 502 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 769.4956 (pause 0.21) 769.7054 503 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 769.7054 I ha- 770.5027 504 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 770.5027 (pause 0.71) 771.2115 505 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 771.2115 Uh, t- t- It's quite a- 772.8668 506 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 772.8668 (pause 1.09) 773.9580 507 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 773.9580 Well, we've- First thing, we have uh, a number of contracts with uh, different uh, 779.1280 508 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 779.1280 (pause 1.06) 780.1864 509 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 780.1864 commercial 780.7447 510 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 780.7447 (pause 0.34) 781.0806 511 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 781.0806 binders and also with the government printing office. 784.2886 512 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 784.2886 (pause 0.67) 784.9554 513 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 784.9554 We have a number of service divisions- 787.1598 514 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 787.1598 (pause 0.48) 787.6448 515 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 787.6448 service divisions, that send us material, 790.3399 516 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 790.3399 (pause 0.28) 790.6197 517 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 790.6197 uh, unbound, 792.0501 518 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 792.0501 (pause 0.24) 792.2879 519 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 792.2879 monographs, uh, 793.9292 520 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 793.9292 (pause 0.91) 794.8385 521 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 794.8385 periodicals, 795.8876 522 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 795.8876 (pause 0.65) 796.5404 523 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 796.5404 um, 796.9974 524 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 796.9974 (pause 0.25) 797.2445 525 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 797.2445 collected works of one kind or another 799.6774 526 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 799.6774 (pause 0.16) 799.8360 527 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 799.8360 that have to uh, 801.5379 528 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 801.5379 (pause 0.50) 802.0368 529 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 802.0368 be 802.4752 530 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 802.4752 (pause 0.92) 803.3937 531 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 803.3937 put or sent to 804.9220 532 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 804.9220 (pause 0.92) 805.8406 533 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 805.8406 the binders or 807.6871 534 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 807.6871 (pause 1.18) 808.8668 535 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 808.8668 the processors 809.8414 536 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 809.8414 (pause 0.30) 810.1398 537 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 810.1398 to 810.5781 538 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 810.5781 (pause 0.52) 811.0945 539 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 811.0945 determine what type of preservation- what type of uh, binding that they're going to 816.6049 540 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 816.6049 (pause 0.28) 816.8847 541 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 816.8847 use to preserve this material. 819.0390 542 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 819.0390 (pause 0.99) 820.0275 543 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 820.0275 And uh, I have a number of- 822.0092 544 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 822.0092 (pause 0.31) 822.3158 545 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 822.3158 Let's see. Four, five, six- 824.9271 546 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 824.9271 (pause 0.68) 825.6079 547 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 825.6079 I think it's about fourteen people 827.7155 548 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 827.7155 (pause 0.16) 827.8740 549 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 827.8740 that uh, are constantly 829.7940 550 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 829.7940 (pause 0.19) 829.9852 551 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 829.9852 um, 830.5121 552 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 830.5121 (pause 1.23) 831.7431 553 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 831.7431 working 832.4798 554 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 832.4798 (pause 0.29) 832.7689 555 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 832.7689 this area. Each- each person is doing something different, 835.7893 556 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 835.7893 (pause 0.69) 836.4841 557 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 836.4841 and uh, if- 837.3514 558 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 837.3514 (pause 0.45) 837.8037 559 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 837.8037 All day long, I have as- Each person asking a different question but uh, 842.9830 560 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 842.9830 (pause 0.58) 843.5659 561 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 843.5659 I don't think that I spend more than uh, one solid hour- other than early morning, possibly cleaning off things that have been piled on my desk, 852.1958 562 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 852.1958 (pause 0.50) 852.6935 563 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 852.6935 uh, at my desk. 853.9759 564 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 853.9759 (pause 0.09) 854.0645 565 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 854.0645 The rest of the day is uh, circulating around 857.2305 566 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 857.2305 (pause 0.22) 857.4497 567 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 857.4497 to see the individuals uh, 859.4303 568 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 859.4303 (pause 1.47) 860.9038 569 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 860.9038 traveling- Uh, um, 862.4192 570 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 862.4192 (pause 0.32) 862.7363 571 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 862.7363 processing their material in the area 865.4163 572 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 865.4163 (pause 0.34) 865.7567 573 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 865.7567 in which they're supposed to. 867.4167 574 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 867.4167 (pause 1.45) 868.8715 575 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 868.8715 Um, 869.3751 576 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 869.3751 (pause 1.34) 870.7169 577 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 870.7169 um, 871.5329 578 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 871.5329 (pause 1.27) 872.8012 579 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 872.8012 it's a general um- 874.6430 580 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 874.6430 (pause 0.97) 875.6129 581 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 875.6129 It's kind of hard to describe unless you actually saw the operation. It's- 879.2814 582 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 879.2814 (pause 0.49) 879.7757 583 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 879.7757 We are 880.4705 584 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 880.4705 (pause 0.62) 881.0953 585 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 881.0953 in the process of a reorganization. We are in the process of a 885.2162 586 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 885.2162 (pause 0.49) 885.7058 587 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 885.7058 general revamping. 887.2865 588 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 887.2865 (pause 0.18) 887.4637 589 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 887.4637 We are going to uh, 888.9873 590 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 888.9873 (pause 0.21) 889.2018 591 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 889.2018 send more and more things to 890.8571 592 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 890.8571 (pause 0.53) 891.3840 593 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 891.3840 commercial. We are setting up a restoration 893.3611 594 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 893.3611 (pause 0.23) 893.5942 595 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 893.5942 program in the building, 895.4349 596 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 895.4349 (pause 0.71) 896.1484 597 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 896.1484 and a lot of the material that we are getting now, we are 900.3403 598 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 900.3403 (pause 0.54) 900.8754 599 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 900.8754 planning on having restored by our own craftsmen. 904.3772 600 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 904.3772 (pause 2.06) 906.4371 601 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 906.4371 Um, 907.4862 602 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 907.4862 (pause 0.46) 907.9432 603 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 907.9432 s- 908.1390 604 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 908.1390 (pause 0.34) 908.4748 605 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 908.4748 twice this week- 909.4120 606 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 909.4120 (pause 0.36) 909.7757 607 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 909.7757 Once, the early part of the week, I went to Quantico, 912.7447 608 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 912.7447 (pause 0.18) 912.9220 609 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 912.9220 Virginia, to um, 914.6286 610 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 914.6286 (pause 0.94) 915.5705 611 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 915.5705 uh, 916.2140 612 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 916.2140 (pause 0.24) 916.4565 613 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 916.4565 try to devise or set up a binding- or help to set up a 920.1717 614 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 920.1717 (pause 0.48) 920.6520 615 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 920.6520 binding program or to give them some 923.0627 616 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 923.0627 (pause 1.13) 924.1911 617 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 924.1911 help in setting up their program down there, as they have a small number of in- in- 929.7954 618 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 929.7954 (pause 0.65) 930.4464 619 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 930.4464 in uh, comparison to the amount of material that we 933.3421 620 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 933.3421 (pause 0.76) 934.0975 621 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 934.0975 um- 934.6943 622 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 934.6943 (pause 0.36) 935.0580 623 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 935.0580 We s- send out something like a hundred and ninety- two hundred ninety thousand piece- uh, volumes a year 939.9203 624 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 939.9203 (pause 0.37) 940.2933 625 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 940.2933 to commercial or 942.3450 626 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 942.3450 (pause 0.31) 942.6562 627 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 942.6562 government printing office binders. 944.0988 628 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 944.0988 (pause 0.36) 944.4561 629 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 944.4561 So you can imagine 945.5566 630 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 945.5566 (pause 0.14) 945.6964 631 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 945.6964 with uh, say a work staff of fourteen people and that number of pieces coming through our office. 950.8851 632 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 950.8851 (pause 0.27) 951.1556 633 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 951.1556 It is quite a 951.8970 634 DCA_int_01 952.5498 [Gee.] 952.9508 635 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 952.6290 [um,] 953.3704 636 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 953.6828 beehive, 954.5024 637 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 954.5024 (pause 0.87) 955.3743 638 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 955.3743 but we still travel to uh, 957.8503 639 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 957.8503 (pause 0.35) 958.1954 640 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 958.1954 to- around to other areas to 960.2272 641 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 960.2272 (pause 0.12) 960.3438 642 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 960.3438 try to help devise a standard 962.1763 643 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 962.1763 (pause 0.41) 962.5867 644 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 962.5867 program for preservation of materials, 965.4310 645 DCA_int_01 965.5383 Huh. 965.7901 646 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 966.3392 uh, binding of materials, my office is. 968.6986 647 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 968.6986 (pause 0.54) 969.2348 648 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 969.2348 I'm in the preservation office as- as a whole, 972.4103 649 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 972.4103 (pause 0.19) 972.5956 650 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 972.5956 but the wh- the binding office is one office of the 975.7338 651 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 975.7338 (pause 0.28) 976.0182 652 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 976.0182 preservation office. 977.0907 653 DCA_int_01 979.1598 Hm. 979.6028 654 DCA_int_01 979.6028 (pause 1.66) 981.2628 655 DCA_int_01 981.2628 How do you celebrate Ch- to change the subject a little [- How do you celebrate] Christmas? Uh, 986.2883 656 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 983.8041 [Mm-hm. Yeah.] 984.7447 657 DCA_int_01 986.6286 in general? 987.1695 658 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 988.1814 Well, um, 989.4124 659 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 989.4124 (pause 1.25) 990.6656 660 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 990.6656 we generally um, 992.8618 661 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 992.8618 (pause 1.31) 994.1674 662 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 994.1674 put the Christmas tree up uh, around Christmas Eve- Or might put it up a couple of days ahead of Christmas Eve. We put the Christmas tree up Christmas Eve, and uh 1001.8134 663 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1001.8134 (pause 1.18) 1002.9920 664 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1002.9920 um, 1003.6448 665 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1003.6448 (pause 0.30) 1003.9432 666 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1003.9432 generally on Christmas Eve, it's uh, 1006.7409 667 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1006.7409 (pause 0.23) 1006.9694 668 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1006.9694 preparation, wrapping presents, and 1009.1925 669 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1009.1925 (pause 0.92) 1010.1157 670 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1010.1157 people stopping in, uh, 1011.8363 671 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1011.8363 (pause 0.78) 1012.6197 672 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1012.6197 wishing us cheer and what have you and uh, 1015.6588 673 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1015.6588 (pause 1.83) 1017.4913 674 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1017.4913 let's see. 1018.1534 675 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1018.1534 (pause 1.04) 1019.1932 676 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1019.1932 Uh, Christmas Day we 1020.7447 677 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1020.7447 (pause 0.49) 1021.2298 678 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1021.2298 travel around to the different relatives of course, um, 1024.8575 679 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1024.8575 (pause 1.09) 1025.9521 680 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1025.9521 during Christmas day. S- On occasions we have gone to church, but we- This is not a regular 1030.9321 681 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1030.9321 (pause 0.36) 1031.2912 682 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1031.2912 thing. 1031.5710 683 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1031.5710 (pause 0.81) 1032.3811 684 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1032.3811 Um, 1033.1738 685 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1033.1738 (pause 1.55) 1034.7266 686 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1034.7266 it's more or less visiting relatives, and uh, exchanging of gifts and uh, 1040.9317 687 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1040.9317 (pause 0.59) 1041.5239 688 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1041.5239 a um, 1042.4845 689 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1042.4845 (pause 1.18) 1043.6677 690 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1043.6677 sort of a- 1044.5422 691 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1044.5422 (pause 1.02) 1045.5655 692 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1045.5655 We usually have uh, spirits that we put out for 1049.3378 693 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1049.3378 (pause 0.29) 1049.6316 694 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1049.6316 people who come in and uh- 1051.5842 695 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1051.5842 (pause 1.58) 1053.1649 696 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1053.1649 It's more or less a family sort of uh, occasion generally. 1057.5235 697 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1057.5235 (pause 1.16) 1058.6846 698 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1058.6846 This Christmas had been a little different from past Christmases because this is the first Christmas- I don't know whether you know it or not, but my wife 1065.5845 699 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1065.5845 (pause 0.39) 1065.9716 700 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1065.9716 uh, passed away 1066.9088 701 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1066.9088 (pause 0.73) 1067.6409 702 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1067.6409 a year or so ago, and this Christmas was a little different from uh, 1071.7711 703 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1071.7711 (pause 0.55) 1072.3259 704 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1072.3259 past Christmases. 1073.4544 705 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1073.4544 (pause 0.60) 1074.0501 706 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1074.0501 So uh, 1075.0106 707 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1075.0106 (pause 0.29) 1075.3044 708 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1075.3044 m- m- but we managed to make it through it. Uh- 1078.8016 709 DCA_int_01 1079.2667 Must have been hard. 1080.3065 710 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1080.5816 Mm-hm. 1081.0479 711 DCA_int_01 1082.3442 Were you ever in a situation where you thought you might 1084.6337 712 DCA_int_01 1084.6337 (pause 1.02) 1085.6502 713 DCA_int_01 1085.6502 um, be killed or might die? That this might be- 1088.4794 714 DCA_int_01 1088.4794 (pause 0.38) 1088.8571 715 DCA_int_01 1088.8571 be it? 1089.3840 716 DCA_int_01 1089.3840 (pause 1.21) 1090.5964 717 DCA_int_01 1090.5964 Any adventure or danger like that? 1092.7367 718 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1095.4167 N- I was in a automobile um, 1098.0465 719 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1098.0465 (pause 0.52) 1098.5630 720 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1098.5630 d- When we were in high school, 1100.5400 721 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1100.5400 (pause 0.86) 1101.3980 722 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1101.3980 um, 1102.1534 723 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1102.1534 (pause 0.29) 1102.4425 724 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1102.4425 I think the year- The- we- The 1104.7447 725 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1104.7447 (pause 0.76) 1105.5095 726 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1105.5095 year of graduation, the 1106.8711 727 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1106.8711 (pause 0.26) 1107.1322 728 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1107.1322 senior year, the last month- or week or so- before school closed, 1111.6774 729 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1111.6774 (pause 0.91) 1112.5867 730 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1112.5867 um, 1113.4959 731 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1113.4959 (pause 0.77) 1114.2653 732 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1114.2653 we rented a automobile. We got one of the fellas to get his older brother to rent us an automobile, and we rented a automobile, and we 1120.8529 733 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1120.8529 (pause 0.48) 1121.3378 734 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1121.3378 went down to um, 1122.7449 735 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1122.7449 (pause 0.70) 1123.4489 736 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1123.4489 somebody's beach home. I don't remember whose beach home at the time, but we went to somebody's beach home, and /in/ 1129.0666 737 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1129.0666 (pause 0.55) 1129.6168 738 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1129.6168 process of going down there- It was a cool day, just 1132.5031 739 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1132.5031 (pause 0.58) 1133.0813 740 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1133.0813 about like it is right now. 1134.5781 741 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1134.5781 (pause 0.47) 1135.0479 742 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1135.0479 And uh, 1135.9712 743 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1135.9712 (pause 0.73) 1136.6986 744 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1136.6986 we f- got down there, and we stayed around a little while. We didn't 1140.2284 745 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1140.2284 (pause 1.66) 1141.8872 746 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1141.8872 couldn't go in the water. We couldn't uh, do what we went down there to do, so to speak, 1145.9673 747 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1145.9673 (pause 0.60) 1146.5676 748 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1146.5676 so um, 1147.4629 749 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1147.4629 (pause 0.79) 1148.2509 750 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1148.2509 we um, 1149.5985 751 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1149.5985 (pause 0.38) 1149.9809 752 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1149.9809 finally uh, ended up uh, turning around and driving 1153.1925 753 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1153.1925 (pause 0.92) 1154.1111 754 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1154.1111 back to Washington, and we drove very fast coming back, 1157.4031 755 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1157.4031 (pause 0.58) 1157.9860 756 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1157.9860 and the car skidded. 1159.3836 757 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1159.3836 (pause 0.70) 1160.0877 758 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1160.0877 And um, 1161.2954 759 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1161.2954 (pause 0.39) 1161.6871 760 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1161.6871 we f- ended up in a- 1163.2912 761 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1163.2912 (pause 0.37) 1163.6642 762 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1163.6642 sort of a hay field- uh, corn field. 1166.2416 763 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1166.2416 (pause 0.99) 1167.2348 764 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1167.2348 And I had just dozed off at the time, but um, 1170.7447 765 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1170.7447 (pause 0.33) 1171.0712 766 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1171.0712 um, 1171.6494 767 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1171.6494 (pause 0.64) 1172.2883 768 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1172.2883 and I don't think I've been asleep in a automobile since then 1174.6384 769 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1174.6384 (pause 0.41) 1175.0534 770 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1175.0534 but uh, we were heading in the opposite direction, 1177.9152 771 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1177.9152 (pause 0.21) 1178.1251 772 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1178.1251 and uh, 1178.8058 773 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1178.8058 (pause 0.36) 1179.1695 774 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1179.1695 I remember pushing the car out of the corn field 1181.3937 775 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1181.3937 (pause 0.58) 1181.9755 776 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1181.9755 and getting it back up on the road, and we came on back to Washington. 1185.9156 777 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1185.9156 (pause 0.69) 1186.6104 778 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1186.6104 But um, 1187.7341 779 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1187.7341 (pause 0.24) 1187.9755 780 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1187.9755 that's about as close that I can remember in my 1191.0157 781 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1191.0157 (pause 1.21) 1192.2234 782 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1192.2234 death- adventure, as far as death. Now, I've been sick a couple of times that 1196.2323 783 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1196.2323 (pause 0.12) 1196.3535 784 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1196.3535 I didn't know whether I was going to make it or not, but I wasn't that seriously ill, but it just seemed as though- 1201.9945 785 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1201.9945 (pause 0.20) 1202.1950 786 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1202.1950 but uh, 1203.1602 787 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1203.1602 (pause 0.38) 1203.5379 788 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1203.5379 I was in very bad pain with a kidney stone. 1205.9300 789 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1205.9300 (pause 0.65) 1206.5770 790 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1206.5770 And I didn't know just 1207.9945 791 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1207.9945 (pause 0.57) 1208.5680 792 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1208.5680 what it was all about. I didn't know whether I had a ruptured uh, 1211.3098 793 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1211.3098 (pause 0.78) 1212.0932 794 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1212.0932 appendix or just what it was. 1213.4256 795 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1213.4256 (pause 0.32) 1213.7427 796 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1213.7427 Mm. 1214.2230 797 DCA_int_01 1215.9529 Sometimes people say that, 1217.3518 798 DCA_int_01 1217.3518 (pause 0.16) 1217.5150 799 DCA_int_01 1217.5150 well, 1217.9346 800 DCA_int_01 1217.9346 (pause 0.63) 1218.5630 801 DCA_int_01 1218.5630 whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. 1220.4934 802 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1220.9084 [Mm-hm.] 1221.2581 803 DCA_int_01 1221.0996 [How] do you feel about that? 1222.5777 804 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1222.6197 Well, I had to develop that attitude because of um, a number of things. I uh, 1228.5591 805 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1228.5591 (pause 1.68) 1230.2412 806 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1230.2412 sort of have a philosophy that you roll with the punches, you know? And you um, 1234.7549 807 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1234.7549 (pause 0.70) 1235.4590 808 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1235.4590 uh, 1236.0419 809 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1236.0419 (pause 0.88) 1236.9220 810 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1236.9220 you just have to accept 1238.1997 811 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1238.1997 (pause 0.73) 1238.9271 812 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1238.9271 things, and this is my attitude now. I might be very wrong, uh- I 1243.5002 813 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1243.5002 (pause 0.33) 1243.8313 814 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1243.8313 have 1244.3022 815 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1244.3022 (pause 1.11) 1245.4167 816 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1245.4167 felt that I just accept this 1248.2890 817 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1248.2890 (pause 0.64) 1248.9313 818 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1248.9313 to a certain degree. If there's nothing that I can do about it, there's nothing that I can change, 1253.5709 819 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1253.5709 (pause 0.46) 1254.0279 820 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1254.0279 then um, 1254.7775 821 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1254.7775 (pause 0.76) 1255.5375 822 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1255.5375 I have to go along with the- In case of my wife's death, 1259.5849 823 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1259.5849 (pause 0.18) 1259.7668 824 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1259.7668 for instance. 1260.5082 825 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1260.5082 (pause 0.61) 1261.1179 826 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1261.1179 Uh, she had the best medical care that we possibly 1264.3446 827 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1264.3446 (pause 0.85) 1265.1979 828 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1265.1979 knew about 1266.0594 829 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1266.0594 (pause 0.36) 1266.4184 830 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1266.4184 and uh, 1267.3790 831 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1267.3790 (pause 0.61) 1267.9898 832 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1267.9898 uh, she had something- She had a- a rheumatic heart condition when she was young that we didn't know about until two months before she went in- three months before she went in the hospital. 1276.9460 833 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1276.9460 \Aj 1277.7889 834 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1277.7889 And uh, of course, uh, she had two major operations, and the second operation, she didn't make it. 1283.0487 835 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1283.0487 (pause 0.29) 1283.3425 836 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1283.3425 Uh, 1283.7528 837 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1283.7528 (pause 0.79) 1284.5397 838 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1284.5397 but, uh, we had no knowledge that it was anything wrong with her heart at all, in all the years that we've been married. She had two children. We have two children. We had uh, 1293.4111 839 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1293.4111 (pause 0.17) 1293.5836 840 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1293.5836 a number of things. We had a number of plans 1295.8032 841 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1295.8032 (pause 0.76) 1296.5586 842 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1296.5586 that um, 1297.4538 843 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1297.4538 (pause 0.37) 1297.8257 844 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1297.8257 that will, of course will never be fulfilled in that area. 1301.6120 845 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1301.6120 (pause 0.50) 1302.1156 846 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1302.1156 But um, 1303.0994 847 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1303.0994 (pause 0.74) 1303.8444 848 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1303.8444 I've- 1304.3573 849 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1304.3573 (pause 0.27) 1304.6277 850 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1304.6277 I have- still have two daughters, so I feel to a certain degree- Now what am I going to do? Fold up or 1309.7893 851 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1309.7893 (pause 0.20) 1309.9898 852 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1309.9898 continue to try to 1310.9178 853 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1310.9178 (pause 1.02) 1311.9427 854 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1311.9427 make the best of the situation, you know. And uh, s- I think that uh, my wife left enough 1317.7312 855 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1317.7312 (pause 1.74) 1319.4721 856 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1319.4721 with the girls. Uh, when I say, left enough, the- they- 1323.5277 857 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1323.5277 (pause 0.17) 1323.6965 858 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1323.6965 Certain basic training that the girls have that um, 1326.9735 859 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1326.9735 (pause 0.53) 1327.5040 860 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1327.5040 it's been made the job somewhat easier for me in trying to bring them through these 1332.6984 861 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1332.6984 (pause 0.23) 1332.9258 862 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1332.9258 last couple of year- last year or so. Last- 1335.3467 863 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1335.3467 (pause 0.29) 1335.6358 864 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1335.6358 It's been almost 1336.5115 865 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1336.5115 (pause 1.35) 1337.8591 866 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1337.8591 two years since we- the actual time she got sick, went in the hospital and- and the time that she was operated on and what have you, the time she died. 1344.8103 867 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1344.8103 (pause 0.51) 1345.3221 868 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1345.3221 And it's been just the three of us since then, 1347.8214 869 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1347.8214 (pause 0.31) 1348.1292 870 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1348.1292 but I don't generally worry about my girls getting into any difficulty or anything of that sort. 1353.1089 871 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1353.1089 (pause 0.26) 1353.3701 872 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1353.3701 I feel that uh, 1354.6011 873 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1354.6011 (pause 0.37) 1354.9732 874 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1354.9732 they basically have the back- the training and what have you, and that uh, if anything- if they get out of line or anything happens /??/ it's gonna happen anyhow, there's nothing that I can 1364.6977 875 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1364.6977 (pause 0.35) 1365.0521 876 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1365.0521 basically do other than try to instill 1367.3565 877 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1367.3565 (pause 0.89) 1368.2508 878 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1368.2508 certain concepts of life in them /emphasis/- 1371.7944 879 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1371.7944 (pause 0.88) 1372.6747 880 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1372.6747 1373.6586 881 DCA_int_01 1373.6493 Yeah. 1373.9804 882 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1374.0410 1375.8024 883 DCA_int_01 1375.8817 [/inaudible/] 1377.4297 884 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1375.9143 [So, there's a-] 1377.0101 885 DCA_se3_ag3_m_01 1377.4670 Uh-huh. 1377.8354