Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCA_int_01 0.0022 What kinds of games you used to play as a kid? 2.3666 2 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 2.9146 Marbles, 3.5920 3 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 3.5920 (pause 0.53) 4.1232 4 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 4.1232 mumblety peg, 4.7995 5 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 4.7995 (pause 0.72) 5.5238 6 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 5.5238 checkers, 6.1001 7 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 6.1001 (pause 0.57) 6.6659 8 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 6.6659 chess, 7.0621 9 DCA_int_01 7.9944 I uh- what kind of uh- what's mumblety peg? 10.5757 10 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 11.2714 Uh it's with of uh icepick. 12.5567 11 DCA_int_01 13.6463 What do you do with it? 14.3796 12 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 14.5587 You throw it in the ground 15.5811 13 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 15.5811 (pause 0.38) 15.9651 14 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 15.9651 and uh 16.6171 15 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 16.6171 (pause 0.59) 17.2097 16 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 17.2097 when it's your chance to come in, 18.6404 17 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 18.6404 (pause 0.18) 18.8183 18 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 18.8183 it sticks 19.4569 19 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 19.4569 (pause 0.14) 19.5962 20 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 19.5962 if not you lose your chance and someone else goes. 21.9456 21 DCA_int_01 23.0935 Hm. 23.4509 22 DCA_int_01 23.4509 (pause 0.36) 23.8137 23 DCA_int_01 23.8137 How do you win or lose? 24.8910 24 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 26.0264 Well it's just of uh, 27.1157 25 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 27.1157 (pause 0.98) 28.0993 26 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 28.0993 say about 28.5556 27 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 28.5556 (pause 0.11) 28.6636 28 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 28.6636 nine 29.1974 29 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 29.1974 (pause 0.04) 29.2415 30 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 29.2415 or ten different moves in the hand of different ways to throw it. 31.4865 31 DCA_int_01 32.7247 Mm-hm. 33.2687 32 DCA_int_01 33.2687 (pause 0.90) 34.1733 33 DCA_int_01 34.1733 Once you get the move /inaudible/ there different points to it or? 37.0507 34 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 37.1483 Mm, 38.0287 35 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 38.0287 (pause 1.15) 39.1808 36 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 39.1808 no it's just the one point is just to- to use an icepick. 41.8714 37 DCA_int_01 42.6619 Mm-hm. 43.2285 38 DCA_int_01 43.2285 (pause 0.81) 44.0385 39 DCA_int_01 44.0385 What about marbles, how does that work? 45.8305 40 DCA_int_01 45.8305 (pause 0.34) 46.1712 41 DCA_int_01 46.1712 Say I was a foreigner and I've never seen it. 48.0440 42 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 48.0360 Well, 48.6482 43 DCA_int_01 48.6058 What would you say? 49.4403 44 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 49.5007 you'd have a bumper, 50.5367 45 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 50.5367 (pause 0.14) 50.6787 46 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 50.6787 and you would have say 51.7392 47 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 51.7392 (pause 1.78) 53.5240 48 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 53.5240 maybe ten 54.2363 49 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 54.2363 (pause 0.25) 54.4861 50 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 54.4861 maybe put five in the- a circle, 56.3194 51 DCA_int_01 56.4750 Mm-hm. 56.9430 52 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 57.2913 and what 57.7287 53 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 57.7287 (pause 0.23) 57.9597 54 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 57.9597 you try to do is take the other man's marbles 60.0605 55 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 60.0605 (pause 0.78) 60.8442 56 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 60.8442 by knocking 'em out the circle. 61.8749 57 DCA_int_01 62.1048 I see. 62.6650 58 DCA_int_01 62.6650 (pause 2.16) 64.8236 59 DCA_int_01 64.8236 Did you ever- what did you- do you get to keep the marbles that you [/knock out?/] 67.9371 60 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 67.5409 [Yes] you do. 68.1636 61 DCA_int_01 70.6578 Ah that's good. 71.4152 62 DCA_int_01 71.4152 (pause 1.21) 72.6205 63 DCA_int_01 72.6205 What was uh 73.4645 64 DCA_int_01 73.4645 (pause 0.36) 73.8250 65 DCA_int_01 73.8250 /???/ wha- what's ch- checkers? /inaudible/ 76.7017 66 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 75.9771 Checkers? Uh that's um 77.8543 67 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 78.7027 round disc, 79.6146 68 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 79.6146 (pause 0.12) 79.7388 69 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 79.7388 black and red 80.5361 70 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 80.5361 (pause 0.06) 80.5912 71 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 80.5912 on a checker board, 81.4476 72 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 81.4476 (pause 1.98) 83.4280 73 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 83.4280 the object is to 84.4365 74 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 84.4365 (pause 0.25) 84.6886 75 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 84.6886 take 84.9406 76 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 84.9406 (pause 0.96) 85.9012 77 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 85.9012 all the other man's checkers 87.1732 78 DCA_int_01 87.2732 Mm-hm. 87.8025 79 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 87.9895 and keep him from taking yours. 89.2060 80 DCA_int_01 89.3781 Mm-hm. 89.8515 81 DCA_int_01 89.8515 (pause 0.99) 90.8423 82 DCA_int_01 90.8423 And you take a checker by what? 92.8112 83 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 92.8753 Jumping. 93.3875 84 DCA_int_01 96.4406 Okay uh, 97.6699 85 DCA_int_01 97.6699 (pause 0.47) 98.1449 86 DCA_int_01 98.1449 have you ever played a game where one kid has to chase everybody else? 101.0302 87 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 102.7885 Um, 103.4392 88 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 103.4392 (pause 1.78) 105.2216 89 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 105.2216 just blind man's 106.2541 90 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 106.2541 (pause 0.12) 106.3701 91 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 106.3701 bluff I think it is. 107.6115 92 DCA_int_01 107.6330 How does that work? 108.4930 93 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 108.5665 Th- that is the one you uh 109.8518 94 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 109.8518 (pause 1.08) 110.9276 95 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 110.9276 close your eyes and count a certain amount, 112.6716 96 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 112.6716 (pause 0.21) 112.8800 97 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 112.8800 and then uh 113.5907 98 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 113.5907 (pause 0.14) 113.7324 99 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 113.7324 everybody hides and 114.7489 100 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 114.7489 (pause 0.73) 115.4828 101 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 115.4828 you try to find that one person or 116.9993 102 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 116.9993 (pause 0.08) 117.0796 103 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 117.0796 whoever is /happy to explain/. 118.2782 104 DCA_int_01 118.7000 Mm-hm. 119.2906 105 DCA_int_01 119.2906 (pause 0.67) 119.9565 106 DCA_int_01 119.9565 What happens when you catch him? 121.1651 107 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 121.6173 He's it. 122.2253 108 DCA_int_01 123.5856 What about the first time you start playing a game like that how do you pick the guy that's gonna be it? 127.7155 109 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 128.2030 /??/ 128.8469 110 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 128.8469 (pause 0.11) 128.9540 111 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 128.9540 that 129.2118 112 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 129.2118 (pause 0.17) 129.3791 113 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 129.3791 I don't remember, I couldn't say. 131.2030 114 DCA_int_01 131.9062 Did you ever use any rhymes that you remember like engine engine number nine? 135.8155 115 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 135.8080 Um, 136.6013 116 DCA_int_01 136.6100 Hot potato or hi spy? 138.5193 117 DCA_int_01 138.5193 (pause 0.50) 139.0231 118 DCA_int_01 139.0231 Stick 'em in the oven what are you gonna get? 140.8132 119 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 142.0000 Not that I can recall. 143.2093 120 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 143.2093 (pause 1.71) 144.9226 121 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 144.9226 Might have but I couldn't say for sure. 146.7476 122 DCA_int_01 147.6680 Did you ever play tag? 148.5667 123 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 148.9720 Yes. 149.5002 124 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 149.5002 (pause 0.15) 149.6483 125 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 149.6483 Mm-hm. 150.0525 126 DCA_int_01 150.6407 How does that work? 151.5172 127 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 152.9456 Well, 153.4536 128 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 153.4536 (pause 1.99) 155.4425 129 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 155.4425 I would run after you 156.4710 130 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 156.4710 (pause 0.33) 156.8031 131 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 156.8031 and 157.1913 132 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 157.1913 (pause 0.06) 157.2553 133 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 157.2553 tag you and uh 158.4818 134 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 158.4818 (pause 0.42) 158.9017 135 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 158.9017 you would run after someone else, 160.0590 136 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 160.0590 (pause 0.12) 160.1783 137 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 160.1783 and tag them and they would run after someone else and 162.5794 138 DCA_int_01 163.3533 So [uh-] 163.7810 139 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 163.5894 [it's] in a cycle, so. 164.8641 140 DCA_int_01 166.7184 How about hide and seek? 167.8757 141 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 168.9168 It's the same thing 169.8893 142 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 169.8893 (pause 0.33) 170.2174 143 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 170.2174 as uh blind man's bluff as you say. 172.2481 144 DCA_int_01 172.3943 Mm-hm. 172.9289 145 DCA_int_01 172.9289 (pause 0.20) 173.1306 146 DCA_int_01 173.1306 You ever n- heard any other names for it? 175.3746 147 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 178.1539 No that's the only two. 179.8686 148 DCA_int_01 180.6027 Some people say hide and go seek, some say hide and seek, some- some call it hi spy. 185.6891 149 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 185.6931 Mm. 186.3744 150 DCA_int_01 186.8533 Okay uh, 187.8466 151 DCA_int_01 187.8466 (pause 0.30) 188.1419 152 DCA_int_01 188.1419 what's your favorite TV program? 189.9179 153 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 190.6946 Uh 191.2547 154 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 191.2547 (pause 0.52) 191.7709 155 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 191.7709 right now I like The Outcasts. 193.3736 156 DCA_int_01 193.9394 Mm-hm. 194.4794 157 DCA_int_01 194.4794 (pause 0.75) 195.2280 158 DCA_int_01 195.2280 Uh do you remember an episode of that? 196.9707 159 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 197.3770 Uh 198.0549 160 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 198.0549 (pause 3.72) 201.7721 161 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 201.7721 well I- I just like the way the story's based. 204.0841 162 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 204.0841 (pause 1.60) 205.6877 163 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 205.6877 This [one uh] 206.7690 164 DCA_int_01 206.1839 [/Do you remember/] a story? 207.2684 165 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 208.8328 [about the um] 209.9355 166 DCA_int_01 209.0409 [First talk about] 209.8468 167 DCA_int_01 210.0275 how it's based. 210.9356 168 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 211.2855 well it's the uh 212.2828 169 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 212.2828 (pause 0.30) 212.5781 170 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 212.5781 black fella and white fella, 213.9274 171 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 213.9274 (pause 1.20) 215.1245 172 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 215.1245 and they are always 216.4312 173 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 216.4312 (pause 0.37) 216.8035 174 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 216.8035 against each other but help each other out all the time 219.0155 175 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 219.0155 (pause 0.36) 219.3782 176 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 219.3782 220.5227 177 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 220.5227 (pause 0.04) 220.5667 178 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 220.5667 and that's how th- each story is based on, 222.4475 179 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 222.4475 (pause 0.10) 222.5475 180 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 222.5475 th- 222.8236 181 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 222.8236 (pause 0.09) 222.9156 182 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 222.9156 one of 'em get in trouble and the other one goes after him. 225.0967 183 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 225.0967 (pause 0.67) 225.7626 184 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 225.7626 They're bounty hunters. 226.5109 185 DCA_int_01 229.6778 Do you remember a 230.7231 186 DCA_int_01 230.7231 (pause 0.11) 230.8342 187 DCA_int_01 230.8342 particular time when they went after somebody? 233.0858 188 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 234.8453 No I couldn't say. 236.4580 189 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 236.4580 (pause 0.76) 237.2224 190 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 237.2224 It's been discontinued you see 238.9984 191 DCA_int_01 239.1090 Oh, okay no uh it used to be one of my [favorites] too. 242.0504 192 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 241.0294 [Yeah.] 241.5254 193 DCA_int_01 242.4941 Did you see the one about the- 243.7874 194 DCA_int_01 243.7874 (pause 1.53) 245.3207 195 DCA_int_01 245.3207 about the nitroglycerin? 246.6425 196 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 251.4451 No I don't recall that one. 252.9002 197 DCA_int_01 254.1038 What others do you like? 255.1763 198 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 255.6405 Uh Mission Impossible 256.8410 199 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 256.8410 (pause 0.08) 256.9211 200 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 256.9211 when I get a chance to see that. 258.2337 201 DCA_int_01 260.3681 Probably don't remember a lot of those? 261.9768 202 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 261.8728 Mm. 262.5011 203 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 266.7003 It /?/ up 267.2625 204 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 267.2625 (pause 0.20) 267.4626 205 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 267.4626 when um 268.3480 206 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 268.3480 (pause 0.44) 268.7912 207 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 268.7912 they were going to this foreign country, 270.3112 208 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 270.3112 (pause 1.35) 271.6602 209 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 271.6602 and they were trying to uh 272.9768 210 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 272.9768 (pause 0.16) 273.1369 211 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 273.1369 uh, liberate 273.6251 212 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 273.6251 (pause 1.09) 274.7152 213 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 274.7152 I think this w- wa- a prince, 276.5019 214 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 276.5019 (pause 0.13) 276.6357 215 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 276.6357 /if I'm not/ mistaken and 278.8528 216 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 278.8528 (pause 3.15) 282.0054 217 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 282.0054 they had to go over a wall, 283.6334 218 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 283.6334 (pause 0.67) 284.3065 219 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 284.3065 climb a roof, 285.1149 220 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 285.1149 (pause 1.15) 286.2672 221 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 286.2672 and go down through a um, 287.9179 222 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 287.9179 (pause 0.80) 288.7138 223 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 288.7138 this- the uh 289.5565 224 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 289.5565 (pause 0.77) 290.3225 225 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 290.3225 ceiling. 290.7627 226 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 290.7627 (pause 3.24) 294.0015 227 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 294.0015 And uh 294.7215 228 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 294.7215 (pause 6.67) 301.3960 229 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 301.3960 that was it, really you know. 303.2008 230 DCA_int_01 304.0772 They have any gimmicks or /??/ 305.9052 231 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 306.1537 Um 306.6579 232 DCA_int_01 306.6539 /Of any kind of ?/ 308.0352 233 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 309.5287 They had a- a little gun that shoots 311.5913 234 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 311.5913 (pause 0.45) 312.0378 235 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 312.0378 uh 312.5592 236 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 312.5592 (pause 0.45) 313.0103 237 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 313.0103 a rope 313.4823 238 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 313.4823 (pause 0.21) 313.6906 239 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 313.6906 across 314.3039 240 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 314.3039 (pause 0.68) 314.9809 241 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 314.9809 a w- you know a certain length of distance. 316.8129 242 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 316.8129 (pause 1.39) 318.2000 243 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 318.2000 And they have uh 319.2574 244 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 319.2574 (pause 0.08) 319.3362 245 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 319.3362 all types of um 320.4282 246 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 320.4282 (pause 0.06) 320.4888 247 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 320.4888 electrical 321.0661 248 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 321.0661 (pause 0.57) 321.6373 249 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 321.6373 uh plans that they use, 322.7693 250 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 322.7693 (pause 0.69) 323.4637 251 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 323.4637 make ups. 324.0800 252 DCA_int_01 327.3090 Okay good. 328.1854 253 DCA_int_01 328.1854 (pause 0.67) 328.8536 254 DCA_int_01 328.8536 Do you have a pet now? 329.9642 255 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 330.3222 Yes. 330.8199 256 DCA_int_01 331.2801 What is it? 331.8095 257 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 332.0565 It's a collie, 332.7485 258 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 332.7485 (pause 0.42) 333.1650 259 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 333.1650 his name is Rex. 334.1117 260 DCA_int_01 334.3591 Mm-hm, what does he do it's- did he ever do anything funny? 337.3005 261 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 337.5142 No, he's uh about a year old, 339.5992 262 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 339.5992 (pause 1.03) 340.6316 263 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 340.6316 I bought him in New York. 341.7529 264 DCA_int_01 341.8636 Mm-hm. 342.4596 265 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 342.5959 I have him 343.3666 266 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 343.3666 (pause 0.28) 343.6484 267 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 343.6484 registered 344.1006 268 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 344.1006 (pause 0.08) 344.1811 269 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 344.1811 at the uh American Kennel Club. 345.8499 270 DCA_int_01 346.0055 Mm-hm oh is he a 347.1140 271 DCA_int_01 347.1140 (pause 0.59) 347.7023 272 DCA_int_01 347.7023 pedigree? 348.2742 273 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 348.1621 Mm-hm. 348.5903 274 DCA_int_01 348.6584 Really? 349.1506 275 DCA_int_01 349.1506 (pause 0.39) 349.5428 276 DCA_int_01 349.5428 Great. 349.9947 277 DCA_int_01 349.9947 (pause 0.61) 350.6069 278 DCA_int_01 350.6069 Have you taught him anything? 351.7475 279 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 352.3037 Nah, ju- lay down and 354.8871 280 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 354.8871 (pause 0.23) 355.1214 281 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 355.1214 s-sit up that's about it. 356.7413 282 DCA_int_01 356.7488 Mm-hm. 357.5088 283 DCA_int_01 357.5088 (pause 0.68) 358.1935 284 DCA_int_01 358.1935 Did you have pets as a kid? 359.3860 285 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 359.9818 Uh no. 360.6701 286 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 360.6701 (pause 0.48) 361.1544 287 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 361.1544 I didn't live in a neighborhood where I could have one. 362.6711 288 DCA_int_01 365.8299 Good. 366.3714 289 DCA_int_01 366.3714 (pause 1.72) 368.0908 290 DCA_int_01 368.0908 What about when you were in school, what did you study? 370.3799 291 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 370.7556 Commercial art. 371.4169 292 DCA_int_01 373.3904 Did you ever do anything with that? 374.7350 293 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 375.0071 Uh well I had an opportunity to go to school for it 377.2378 294 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 377.2378 (pause 1.39) 378.6264 295 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 378.6264 but I 379.1547 296 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 379.1547 (pause 0.14) 379.2987 297 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 379.2987 gave that up 379.9601 298 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 379.9601 (pause 1.13) 381.0872 299 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 381.0872 went to refrigeration 382.1326 300 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 382.1326 (pause 0.25) 382.3816 301 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 382.3816 and air conditioning. 383.0819 302 DCA_int_01 383.4797 Mm-hm. 384.0237 303 DCA_int_01 384.0237 (pause 0.78) 384.8083 304 DCA_int_01 384.8083 Do you like that better? 385.6190 305 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 385.7047 Yes. 386.2610 306 DCA_int_01 388.8436 What about when you were in grammar school or elementary school, what did they have then? 392.6814 307 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 395.5681 Uh all I can remember is the regular courses that they would have 398.2694 308 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 398.2694 (pause 0.11) 398.3750 309 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 398.3750 you know uh 399.1030 310 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 399.1030 (pause 1.40) 400.5000 311 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 400.5000 reading and writing and 401.6414 312 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 401.6414 (pause 0.42) 402.0622 313 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 402.0622 arithmetic you know. 403.2947 314 DCA_int_01 403.5709 Mm-hm. 404.1709 315 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 404.7834 Going to high school well I uh 406.0360 316 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 406.0360 (pause 0.14) 406.1730 317 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 406.1730 was on the drill team 407.1285 318 DCA_int_01 407.6484 Oh really? 408.2431 319 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 408.0526 and swam. 408.7649 320 DCA_int_01 409.9730 What- what uh 411.2023 321 DCA_int_01 411.2023 (pause 0.59) 411.7874 322 DCA_int_01 411.7874 drill team with the rifles and [stuff?] 413.8421 323 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 413.5483 [Right.] 413.9709 324 DCA_int_01 414.4967 No kidding, I did that in college. 416.1594 325 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 416.1350 Oh yeah? 417.3676 326 DCA_int_01 417.3836 Ours was no good, was yours any good? 419.1143 327 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 419.1003 No. 419.9936 328 DCA_int_01 420.4089 Did you compete? 421.2182 329 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 421.4948 Yes we did, 422.2592 330 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 422.2592 (pause 0.71) 422.9715 331 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 422.9715 but it was uh- 423.7678 332 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 423.7678 (pause 0.06) 423.8319 333 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 423.8319 like 424.1120 334 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 424.1120 (pause 0.12) 424.2321 335 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 424.2321 it was segregated schools at the time, 425.9008 336 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 425.9008 (pause 0.70) 426.5967 337 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 426.5967 it was just the uh 427.4130 338 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 427.4130 (pause 0.07) 427.4838 339 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 427.4838 black schools 428.1864 340 DCA_int_01 428.2855 Mm-hm. 428.7521 341 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 428.7777 competing. 429.2139 342 DCA_int_01 430.5819 Did you win? 431.2432 343 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 431.5543 No we never did. 432.4587 344 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 432.4587 (pause 0.10) 432.5626 345 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 432.5626 433.1786 346 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 433.1786 (pause 0.56) 433.7393 347 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 433.7393 434.4420 348 DCA_int_01 434.4830 I remember ours came in next to last [/inaudible/] 438.0746 349 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 436.2257 [ Yeah that's /alright/ that's] what I did- that's what we did too. 440.5593 350 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 441.2436 We had the best swimming team for about 442.7203 351 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 442.7203 (pause 0.12) 442.8363 352 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 442.8363 eight years though. 443.6207 353 DCA_int_01 443.4406 Oh really? 444.1409 354 DCA_int_01 444.8368 What- uh 445.5967 355 DCA_int_01 445.5967 (pause 0.34) 445.9333 356 DCA_int_01 445.9333 what do you swim? 446.7599 357 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 447.2659 Uh [freestyle.] 448.0272 358 DCA_int_01 447.6896 [What] events? 448.4566 359 DCA_int_01 448.8861 Freestyle. 449.6368 360 DCA_int_01 449.6368 (pause 1.19) 450.8310 361 DCA_int_01 450.8310 Good. 451.2124 362 DCA_int_01 451.2124 (pause 0.73) 451.9391 363 DCA_int_01 451.9391 That's terrific. 452.7976 364 DCA_int_01 452.7976 (pause 1.01) 453.8119 365 DCA_int_01 453.8119 What did kids do when you were a kid after school was out? 456.6933 366 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 457.7092 458.2039 367 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 458.2039 (pause 0.78) 458.9818 368 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 458.9818 We- well it depends on what season it was. 460.8867 369 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 460.8867 (pause 0.78) 461.6645 370 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 461.6645 Like it was uh football 463.1252 371 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 463.1252 (pause 0.11) 463.2310 372 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 463.2310 if it was football season, baseball if it was baseball season, or basketball. 466.5605 373 DCA_int_01 466.9141 Mm-hm. 467.4475 374 DCA_int_01 467.4475 (pause 0.50) 467.9426 375 DCA_int_01 467.9426 What about little kids, about ten? 469.5713 376 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 469.7314 Well I'd say we would play in the alley and play ball there you know. 472.9364 377 DCA_int_01 473.0365 Mm-hm. 473.5311 378 DCA_int_01 473.5311 (pause 1.15) 474.6852 379 DCA_int_01 474.6852 Good. 475.0506 380 DCA_int_01 475.0506 (pause 0.93) 475.9833 381 DCA_int_01 475.9833 Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot that you remember? 478.5094 382 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 479.3168 I had one teacher in um 480.9808 383 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 480.9808 (pause 0.08) 481.0590 384 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 481.0590 junior high 481.7857 385 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 481.7857 (pause 1.10) 482.8839 386 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 482.8839 I think his name was /RD-NAME-1/, 484.1492 387 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 484.1492 (pause 1.02) 485.1665 388 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 485.1665 he used to have a ruler and had a bad habit of hitting everybody on the hands you know 488.7079 389 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 488.7079 (pause 0.86) 489.5721 390 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 489.5721 and he used to take us in the bathroom if we didn't like it and fight us you know and win. 492.8355 391 DCA_int_01 492.8193 [No kidding.] 493.6327 392 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 492.8355 [ Yeah.] 493.6288 393 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 493.6924 494.1199 394 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 494.1199 (pause 0.14) 494.2640 395 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 494.2640 and [win.] 494.7653 396 DCA_int_01 494.4037 /?/ 494.9651 397 DCA_int_01 495.5523 Win too [huh?] 496.4520 398 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 496.0845 [That's] right 497.0185 399 DCA_int_01 497.3347 What grade was that? 498.3320 400 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 498.4432 This was about the um 499.5077 401 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 499.5077 (pause 0.78) 500.2836 402 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 500.2836 eighth grade, something like that. 501.8889 403 DCA_int_01 503.4545 Well what set him off? /inaudible/ 505.0832 404 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 505.4234 I mean like if uh 506.5967 405 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 506.5967 (pause 1.30) 507.9005 406 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 507.9005 he says keep quiet 508.7565 407 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 508.7565 (pause 0.98) 509.7409 408 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 509.7409 and somebody says something and 511.2416 409 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 511.2416 (pause 0.15) 511.3937 410 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 511.3937 he'll say stand up, 512.2462 411 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 512.2462 (pause 0.42) 512.6622 412 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 512.6622 so you stand up. 513.4586 413 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 513.4586 (pause 1.00) 514.4567 414 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 514.4567 So he says, stick your hand out 515.8300 415 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 515.8300 (pause 0.47) 516.3031 416 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 516.3031 now if you don't stick your hand out 517.4471 417 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 517.4471 (pause 0.12) 517.5717 418 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 517.5717 you have to go to the bathroom and fight him [] yeah 521.5934 419 DCA_int_01 519.4479 [No kidding.] 520.1385 420 DCA_int_01 521.9792 Can parents ev- did parents ever complain? 524.0201 421 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 523.9817 No, 524.5179 422 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 524.8421 they wanted it 525.4664 423 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 525.4664 (pause 0.08) 525.5448 424 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 525.5448 because if he ever 526.3397 425 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 526.3397 (pause 0.28) 526.6208 426 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 526.6208 went back they found out about it you would get whipped anyway 528.8901 427 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 528.8901 (pause 0.06) 528.9480 428 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 528.9480 so what's the difference [] 532.2709 429 DCA_int_01 530.1277 [] 531.1461 430 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 533.1490 So 533.8693 431 DCA_int_01 534.1214 Mm that's great, did you ever have to /get hit?/ 536.3507 432 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 536.4881 No [I haven't had that problem, no] 539.2121 433 DCA_int_01 536.8982 [/inaudible/] 538.6435 434 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 541.0595 But I've seen what they do with some of the bigger boys /unintelligible/ 543.6247 435 DCA_int_01 545.2027 That's how he kept order. 546.2653 436 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 546.2913 Mm-hm. 546.7473 437 DCA_int_01 549.1222 Uh 549.5424 438 DCA_int_01 549.5424 (pause 0.75) 550.2908 439 DCA_int_01 550.2908 well did you ever uh 551.3441 440 DCA_int_01 551.3441 (pause 0.55) 551.8971 441 DCA_int_01 551.8971 get hollered at by a teacher? 553.4784 442 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 554.8945 Yes I have been bad. 556.0885 443 DCA_int_01 557.4531 Was it usually fair or 558.7937 444 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 559.3663 Yes 559.8516 445 DCA_int_01 559.8865 do you think that they were- 560.9665 446 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 560.5922 they were /??/ and I was 562.3046 447 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 562.6789 doing something wrong so I knew I- it was really my fault so. 566.0865 448 DCA_int_01 566.3121 What kinds of things 567.5227 449 DCA_int_01 567.5227 (pause 0.54) 568.0609 450 DCA_int_01 568.0609 did kids [/get into?/] 569.2715 451 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 568.6027 [Mm well,] 569.2670 452 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 569.7698 like throwing a eraser at somebody 571.1879 453 DCA_int_01 571.4205 Oh. 571.6850 454 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 572.0000 you know s- something like that or a piece of chalk. 574.9253 455 DCA_int_01 575.1030 Mm-hm. 575.6312 456 DCA_int_01 575.6312 (pause 1.83) 577.4641 457 DCA_int_01 577.4641 What about the best teacher 578.6041 458 DCA_int_01 578.6041 (pause 0.31) 578.9104 459 DCA_int_01 578.9104 you ever had? 579.5917 460 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 579.6827 Uh she was my um m- 581.6873 461 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 581.6873 (pause 1.72) 583.4041 462 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 583.4041 art teacher. 584.1244 463 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 584.1244 (pause 0.36) 584.4881 464 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 584.4881 Her name was /RD-NAME-1/ I think it was. 585.9568 465 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 585.9568 (pause 1.15) 587.1053 466 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 587.1053 and she was about the best teacher I've had. 588.8693 467 DCA_int_01 589.2817 Mm-hm what did she do that was- 590.8497 468 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 590.6463 She was teaching commercial art 591.9949 469 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 592.0710 to me 592.5472 470 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 592.5472 (pause 0.10) 592.6512 471 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 592.6512 and uh 593.2395 472 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 593.2395 (pause 0.51) 593.7514 473 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 593.7514 she uh could understand the kids. 595.0800 474 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 595.0800 (pause 0.53) 595.6083 475 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 595.6083 We had a small class anyway 597.0376 476 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 597.0376 (pause 1.12) 598.1589 477 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 598.1589 and she really just 598.9673 478 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 598.9673 (pause 0.44) 599.4115 479 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 599.4115 chipped in and 600.1198 480 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 600.1198 (pause 0.79) 600.9122 481 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 600.9122 put her time out 601.6925 482 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 601.6925 (pause 0.05) 601.7406 483 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 601.7406 for it. 602.0761 484 DCA_int_01 602.3562 Mm-hm. 602.9815 485 DCA_int_01 602.9815 (pause 1.25) 604.2331 486 DCA_int_01 604.2331 What are the ingredients of a good teacher to you? 606.6382 487 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 606.9479 Uh I think understanding. 608.3066 488 DCA_int_01 611.0474 You think many teachers aren't that way? 612.7668 489 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 612.9678 Right 613.7543 490 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 613.7543 (pause 0.30) 614.0581 491 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 614.0581 And I found that out in New York. 615.5617 492 DCA_int_01 615.8291 Oh really? 616.5712 493 DCA_int_01 616.5712 (pause 0.75) 617.3192 494 DCA_int_01 617.3192 Was this in DC that this art teacher was? 619.8819 495 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 619.8699 Yes uh-huh. 620.8097 496 DCA_int_01 622.2649 New York was worse or what? 623.9129 497 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 623.8656 Well I am- 624.7430 498 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 625.8065 went to school, 626.5709 499 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 626.5709 (pause 0.12) 626.6869 500 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 626.6869 a private school in New York 628.0476 501 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 628.0476 (pause 1.05) 629.0976 502 DCA_se3_ag3_m_02 629.0976 for air conditioning. 629.8780