Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCA_int_01 0.1748 The first thing I'll ask is 1.7545 2 DCA_int_01 1.7545 (pause 1.32) 3.0741 3 DCA_int_01 3.0741 what sort of games you played as a child, if you can remember. 6.8265 4 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 7.2602 Well I played basketball 9.1953 5 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 9.1953 (pause 0.77) 9.9647 6 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 9.9647 and f- and uh, baseball when I was a child. 12.9385 7 DCA_int_01 14.6824 Uh, 15.1766 8 DCA_int_01 15.1766 (pause 2.52) 17.6935 9 DCA_int_01 17.6935 how do you play basketball? 19.2322 10 DCA_int_01 19.2322 (pause 0.23) 19.4654 11 DCA_int_01 19.4654 How many [/inaudible/?] 21.3818 12 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 19.9341 [Well you have a-] 20.6746 13 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 20.6746 (pause 0.59) 21.2606 14 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 21.2606 a /basket/ on the post 22.8786 15 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 23.3997 and 23.9966 16 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 23.9966 (pause 0.39) 24.3836 17 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 24.3836 when you throw the ball into the /bastet/, you call a /goal/. 27.8621 18 DCA_int_01 27.9507 Mm-hm. 28.4403 19 DCA_int_01 28.4403 (pause 0.72) 29.1619 20 DCA_int_01 29.1619 How do you score? 29.9406 21 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 31.1530 How- how did I [score?] 32.4073 22 DCA_int_01 32.0547 [Yeah.] 32.4002 23 DCA_int_01 32.9855 I mean, 33.4611 24 DCA_int_01 33.4611 (pause 1.00) 34.4589 25 DCA_int_01 34.4589 how do you count the points? 35.6189 26 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 35.6795 Uh t- 36.0898 27 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 36.0898 (pause 0.19) 36.2763 28 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 36.2763 twenty one was a game. 37.8757 29 DCA_int_01 37.9037 Uh-huh. 38.3420 30 DCA_int_01 38.3420 (pause 0.63) 38.9715 31 DCA_int_01 38.9715 How do you get a point? 39.8901 32 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 40.3051 Well, every time you throw the ball 42.1784 33 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 42.1784 (pause 0.88) 43.0550 34 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 43.0550 into the /basket/ 44.1508 35 DCA_int_01 44.6667 [Is that one point?] 45.5395 36 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 44.7243 [That- th- that's one point.] 46.3517 37 DCA_int_01 46.0122 [Yeah.] 46.3122 38 DCA_int_01 46.5371 /Gee, I'm not an/athlete so I don't know (laughing) 48.7753 39 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 48.8172 Uh-huh. 49.4560 40 DCA_int_01 49.4933 any of these things. 50.3746 41 DCA_int_01 50.3746 (pause 1.11) 51.4797 42 DCA_int_01 51.4797 Did you ever play any little kid 52.9765 43 DCA_int_01 52.9765 (pause 0.18) 53.1572 44 DCA_int_01 53.1572 games where people chased each other or anything like that? 56.1555 45 DCA_int_01 56.1555 (pause 0.28) 56.4399 46 DCA_int_01 56.4399 Do you remember? 57.2746 47 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 58.2631 Well, we played Going Around the /Merryberry/ Bush. 61.2182 48 DCA_int_01 61.2882 Oh, how did that work? 62.4119 49 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 62.4119 Well, 62.9528 50 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 63.6056 you g- 64.0300 51 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 64.0300 (pause 0.45) 64.4823 52 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 64.4823 About twelve kids hold hands and put two in the ring and they call that going around the /Merryberry/ Bush. 70.4216 53 DCA_int_01 70.4403 Mm-hm. 71.0325 54 DCA_int_01 71.0325 (pause 1.16) 72.1971 55 DCA_int_01 72.1971 What was the- Was there a 73.3441 56 DCA_int_01 73.3441 (pause 0.59) 73.9317 57 DCA_int_01 73.9317 aim in that? Or something you had to accomplish? 76.2489 58 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 76.2398 Well, it was our aim- 77.6935 59 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 78.2017 Uh, at the end of it, 79.8104 60 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 79.8104 (pause 0.26) 80.0669 61 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 80.0669 a boy and a girl was always in the ring, 82.3097 62 DCA_int_01 82.4216 Oh! 82.7061 63 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 82.6361 and the boy would get a kiss from a [girl you see?] 84.9105 64 DCA_int_01 84.1784 [] 85.5773 65 DCA_int_01 85.8850 Ah, that sounds like fun. 87.4284 66 DCA_int_01 87.4284 (pause 0.52) 87.9460 67 DCA_int_01 87.9460 What age kids would play that game? 89.5209 68 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 89.4416 Uh, well I myself- When I- We was in school at that time, 92.5052 69 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 92.8829 it was around 93.7922 70 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 93.7922 (pause 0.49) 94.2818 71 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 94.2818 eight and nine and ten. 95.9826 72 DCA_int_01 95.9779 Uh-huh. 96.4955 73 DCA_int_01 98.5425 Did you ever play Tag? 99.7782 74 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 100.3843 No, uh, we didn't. 101.5955 75 DCA_int_01 103.6519 Um. 104.0406 76 DCA_int_01 104.0406 (pause 2.99) 107.0344 77 DCA_int_01 107.0344 Did you play anything 108.0339 78 DCA_int_01 108.0339 (pause 0.56) 108.5936 79 DCA_int_01 108.5936 called Kick the Can? 109.7964 80 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 110.3047 [No.] 110.8736 81 DCA_int_01 110.7337 [Oh], you didn't? 111.4098 82 DCA_int_01 113.3018 How about baseball? Were you ever in a baseball game? [/inaudible/] 117.0041 83 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 115.8944 [Oh yes, when I] was in school, we had /a lot/ baseball games. 119.8240 84 DCA_int_01 119.7168 Uh-huh. 120.3649 85 DCA_int_01 120.7146 Did you play for the school team? 122.2907 86 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 122.3047 E- Yes. 123.3678 87 DCA_int_01 125.9732 What position did you play? 127.4374 88 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 127.4374 I always /payed/ first base. 129.1673 89 DCA_int_01 129.2932 Oh. 129.7782 90 DCA_int_01 129.7782 (pause 0.40) 130.1745 91 DCA_int_01 130.1745 Get a lot of action /then/. 131.3810 92 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 131.3538 Oh, y- yes. 132.5235 93 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 133.6565 And- and during the summers, you know, the community would have a team, and we would travel 137.7727 94 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 137.7727 (pause 0.30) 138.0758 95 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 138.0758 to various counties and various little villages and play 140.7383 96 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 140.7383 (pause 0.41) 141.1487 97 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 141.1487 when school was out. 142.0439 98 DCA_int_01 142.1885 Uh-huh. 142.8180 99 DCA_int_01 142.8180 (pause 0.56) 143.3810 100 DCA_int_01 143.3810 Was your team pretty good? 144.6260 101 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 145.1017 Well, 145.9876 102 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 145.9876 (pause 0.25) 146.2347 103 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 146.2347 sometime it was good, and sometime it was kind of bad. 149.1630 104 DCA_int_01 149.1619 Mm-hm. 149.6981 105 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 149.6795 Makes me think of the Washington Senators. [You know, they win] sometime, then again they down. 154.0859 106 DCA_int_01 151.5120 [] 152.0156 107 DCA_int_01 154.1547 Mm-hm. 154.7935 108 DCA_int_01 154.7935 (pause 0.38) 155.1759 109 DCA_int_01 155.1759 They're not doing too bad now. 156.5468 110 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 156.5277 No! 157.1623 111 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 157.8431 But when they first started, I w- /a little dull/ after three games you know. 162.0105 112 DCA_int_01 161.9639 Yeah. Mm-hm. 163.0632 113 DCA_int_01 163.7125 Now you think you got troubles. I'm a White Sox fan. 166.2398 114 DCA_int_01 166.2398 (pause 1.02) 167.2598 115 DCA_int_01 167.2598 [] At least I was [last year.] 170.6544 116 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 167.6941 [You are?] 168.5124 117 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 168.5124 (pause 0.42) 168.9338 118 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 168.9338 [] 169.4560 119 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 169.4560 (pause 0.41) 169.8628 120 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 169.8628 [] 170.4098 121 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 171.0159 Well since I've been here, 172.6268 122 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 172.6268 (pause 0.96) 173.5909 123 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 173.5909 I go along with the Senators since the Senators here. 176.2696 124 DCA_int_01 177.2466 I think my wife is ready to switch [/unintelligible/. ] 180.7100 125 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 179.3251 [] 180.6260 126 DCA_int_01 181.5368 What's wrong with the White Sox? /You seem like some/ baseball [/?/.] 184.8888 127 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 184.5429 Well, 185.3344 128 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 187.8477 in- in games, 189.3003 129 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 189.3003 (pause 0.39) 189.6896 130 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 189.6896 they just have the good years and bad years. That's the only way I can see it. 192.8405 131 DCA_int_01 192.8685 Mm-hm. 193.3768 132 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 194.2534 You know, there are other years the White Sox have been good. 196.8087 133 DCA_int_01 196.8989 Mm-hm. 197.4535 134 DCA_int_01 197.4535 (pause 0.64) 198.0945 135 DCA_int_01 198.0945 You think these new guys that they got are going to help them eventually? Like Tommy Davis and them? 202.8734 136 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 202.9163 I- I kind of think so. 204.2157 137 DCA_int_01 204.3649 Mm-hm. 204.8126 138 DCA_int_01 204.8126 (pause 0.19) 204.9991 139 DCA_int_01 204.9991 You would think so. Wh- a- 206.5518 140 DCA_int_01 206.5518 (pause 0.48) 207.0274 141 DCA_int_01 207.0274 The pitching isn't holding [up to] me. 208.8914 142 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 208.1547 [Mm-hm.] 208.5790 143 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 209.2878 But /owing to their/ background, they should bring it out. 212.2394 144 DCA_int_01 212.4026 Mm-hm. 212.8502 145 DCA_int_01 212.8502 (pause 0.31) 213.1580 146 DCA_int_01 213.1580 Yeah. 213.6103 147 DCA_int_01 213.6103 (pause 1.31) 214.9194 148 DCA_int_01 214.9194 How high do you think the Senators are gonna get this year? 217.3581 149 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 219.3636 220.0439 150 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 220.0439 (pause 0.99) 221.0360 151 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 221.0360 [] 222.2857 152 DCA_int_01 221.6888 [] If you had to guess. 223.2081 153 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 223.1945 That's a sixty four dollar question. 224.8502 154 DCA_int_01 224.9173 /inaudible/ 225.3310 155 DCA_int_01 225.3310 (pause 1.22) 226.5511 156 DCA_int_01 226.5511 How high do you hope? [/inaudible/] 229.0550 157 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 228.1085 Well I hope it- e- end up in first place. 230.8409 158 DCA_int_01 230.8363 Hm. 231.2513 159 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 231.9495 Because I've been in Washington twenty two years. 234.2848 160 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 234.2848 (pause 0.41) 234.6973 161 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 234.6973 I never seen a pennant won here, and I hope we get in first place. 238.2748 162 DCA_int_01 238.1202 Mm-hm. 238.5793 163 DCA_int_01 239.6142 Oh, the way they're going now, they just might [surprise everybody.] 242.7102 164 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 241.8384 [Yeah.] 242.6031 165 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 243.5057 Well, when it gets- 244.2694 166 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 244.2694 (pause 0.10) 244.3704 167 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 244.3704 The weather get hot, 245.4012 168 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 245.4012 (pause 0.28) 245.6774 169 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 245.6774 it always a change there. 247.0866 170 DCA_int_01 247.3093 [Mm.] 247.6366 171 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 247.3184 [You know], last year, they was doing good. Soon as the weather got hot, 250.3412 172 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 250.7594 they went down for awhile. 252.0572 173 DCA_int_01 251.9947 Mm-hm. 252.3175 174 DCA_int_01 253.2266 They did pretty well in the /Grapefruit League/. 255.1903 175 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 255.1449 Oh yes, they did excellent. 256.9950 176 DCA_int_01 257.4439 Mm-hm. 257.8712 177 DCA_int_01 257.8712 (pause 1.14) 259.0076 178 DCA_int_01 259.0076 They won all our Nat- games with the National League teams, too. 261.9304 179 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 261.9713 Yes, they did. 262.8350 180 DCA_int_01 264.5476 Surprised me. 265.4522 181 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 266.5518 It surprise everyone [I think. ] 268.8553 182 DCA_int_01 267.8108 [] 268.8786 183 DCA_int_01 269.6282 /Everyone/ thinks the National League's supposed to be good. 272.1601 184 DCA_int_01 272.1601 (pause 1.75) 273.9151 185 DCA_int_01 273.9151 Who was the best player 275.1288 186 DCA_int_01 275.1288 (pause 1.33) 276.4595 187 DCA_int_01 276.4595 that you remember on the Senators since you've been here? 279.3958 188 DCA_int_01 279.3958 (pause 2.48) 281.8768 189 DCA_int_01 281.8768 In your opinion. 282.7860 190 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 286.9952 I can't call his name right now, but I know him so well. But I can't call his name. 291.4580 191 DCA_int_01 291.6080 What did he play? 292.5217 192 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 292.9796 Uh- uh- first base. 294.1979 193 DCA_int_01 294.5524 Mm-hm. 295.0797 194 DCA_int_01 295.0797 (pause 1.44) 296.5238 195 DCA_int_01 296.5238 Yeah- When was this? 297.8117 196 DCA_int_01 297.8117 (pause 0.47) 298.2771 197 DCA_int_01 298.2771 Sometime ago, or [recently?] 300.2289 198 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 299.5536 [Uh], just before the old Senators went to Minnesota. 303.2063 199 DCA_int_01 303.1472 Oh. 303.4654 200 DCA_int_01 304.7143 Not Killebrew was it? 305.8916 201 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 307.4281 Was that Killebrew p- played first base? 309.6509 202 DCA_int_01 309.8236 I think he did, I don't know 310.9518 203 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 310.9680 Uh-huh. 311.5635 204 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 311.5635 (pause 1.80) 313.3590 205 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 313.3590 It could have been. 314.4136 206 DCA_int_01 316.3682 Hm. 316.6410 207 DCA_int_01 316.6410 (pause 1.22) 317.8581 208 DCA_int_01 317.8581 Do you ever watch TV? 318.9127 209 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 319.2309 Oh yes. 320.0764 210 DCA_int_01 320.5037 What's your favorite? 321.3719 211 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 321.7935 /Ed Sullivan's/ program. 323.2345 212 DCA_int_01 323.8436 Oh yeah? 324.2845 213 DCA_int_01 324.2845 (pause 1.01) 325.2982 214 DCA_int_01 325.2982 What- 325.5301 215 DCA_int_01 325.5301 (pause 0.34) 325.8664 216 DCA_int_01 325.8664 Could you tell me about one time when- 327.4029 217 DCA_int_01 327.4029 (pause 0.91) 328.3154 218 DCA_int_01 328.3154 that it was particularly good on that? 329.8545 219 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 332.1065 [Uh], 332.6156 220 DCA_int_01 332.2611 [What] he had on? 333.1656 221 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 333.3020 his twenty year anniversary. 335.0101 222 DCA_int_01 335.2828 Oh, who all did he have on there? 336.9692 223 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 337.2329 Oh he had lots of stars on. 339.3557 224 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 339.3557 (pause 0.94) 340.3001 225 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 340.3001 Uh- U- 340.5955 226 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 340.5955 (pause 0.30) 340.8956 227 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 340.8956 Jack Paar, 342.2229 228 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 342.2229 (pause 0.90) 343.1184 229 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 343.1184 uh, 344.0366 230 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 344.0366 (pause 1.78) 345.8174 231 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 345.8174 I can't call all those stars but I think that was really good. 349.3395 232 DCA_int_01 349.6039 Mm-hm. 350.1358 233 DCA_int_01 350.1358 (pause 1.01) 351.1494 234 DCA_int_01 351.1494 Do you ever watch any of their stories? 352.8620 235 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 353.4257 No, I don't watch an- any of the stories, but I do watch the news. 357.3713 236 DCA_int_01 357.5020 Oh. 357.8930 237 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 360.9386 [N-] In the news, 362.6750 238 DCA_int_01 361.0021 [Oh yeah.] 361.4248 239 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 363.2830 I think Chet Huntley and David Brinkley is may favorite news. 366.7422 240 DCA_int_01 366.9104 Uh-huh. 367.3468 241 DCA_int_01 367.3468 (pause 1.17) 368.5185 242 DCA_int_01 368.5185 Think they do a good job? 369.7322 243 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 369.8685 Yes, and David Brinkley's from North Carolina, and that's what make me like him so [well.] 374.2415 244 DCA_int_01 373.6752 [] 374.8642 245 DCA_int_01 375.7859 Your home state. 376.7950 246 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 376.8450 Y- yes. 377.5632 247 DCA_int_01 379.9224 Do you go to movies? 380.7724 248 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 381.4032 No, I don't go to the movie. 383.0760 249 DCA_int_01 383.7987 Hm. 384.0806 250 DCA_int_01 384.0806 (pause 0.79) 384.8715 251 DCA_int_01 384.8715 Well, can't ask you about a movie you've seen then. [] 387.3160 252 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 386.8841 [] No, I don't go to the movie. 388.9206 253 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 389.4570 The last time I went to the movie, I went to see Gone With the Wind. You know how many years it's been ago. 394.2606 254 DCA_int_01 394.6970 They just /revised/ that. 395.7879 255 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 395.8743 Right, and I want to see it 397.2471 256 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 397.2471 (pause 0.35) 397.5960 257 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 397.5960 when they revise it here. 398.8597 258 DCA_int_01 399.1824 Uh-huh. 399.6143 259 DCA_int_01 399.6143 (pause 0.78) 400.3916 260 DCA_int_01 400.3916 What was that about? 401.2098 261 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 402.6553 Well, you know Clarke Gable, 405.2225 262 DCA_int_01 405.2316 Hm. 405.4816 263 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 407.5499 I can't think of all those stars, but it was really [good. I really enjoyed Gone with the Wind.] 411.6679 264 DCA_int_01 410.4807 [What's the story] of Gone with the Wind? 412.6308 265 DCA_int_01 414.2400 Do you /inaudible/? 415.3491 266 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 415.4718 Well, it's- 416.2173 267 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 416.2173 (pause 0.81) 417.0299 268 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 417.0299 I can't 417.6026 269 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 417.6026 (pause 0.31) 417.9117 270 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 417.9117 recall the story of it now. 419.7709 271 DCA_int_01 419.9618 Mm-hm. 420.4846 272 DCA_int_01 420.4846 (pause 2.37) 422.8517 273 DCA_int_01 422.8517 Do you have a pet? 423.6609 274 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 425.1746 No, I don't have a pet. 426.3246 275 DCA_int_01 426.7053 Did you have one when you were a kid? 428.0781 276 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 428.3554 Yeah, we had dogs. 429.7191 277 DCA_int_01 429.8827 Oh yeah? 430.3509 278 DCA_int_01 430.3509 (pause 0.71) 431.0646 279 DCA_int_01 431.0646 What kind? 431.7465 280 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 432.5283 Well we had the hound and the beagles. 434.8864 281 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 434.8864 (pause 0.90) 435.7910 282 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 435.7910 See they was for hunting. 436.9774 283 DCA_int_01 436.9819 Mm-hm. 437.5183 284 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 438.0320 When I was growing up, I was a great hunter. 439.8673 285 DCA_int_01 440.0264 Oh were you? 440.6537 286 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 440.7401 Oh yes. 441.4492 287 DCA_int_01 441.7356 What kind of stuff did you hunt? 442.9220 288 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 442.9811 Well we hunt squirrels, rabbits [and] 445.3585 289 DCA_int_01 445.0346 [Hm.] 445.3755 290 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 446.1665 coons 447.1665 291 DCA_int_01 447.2302 Mm. 447.5074 292 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 447.5302 at night and possum- We go to hunt at night for those. 450.4939 293 DCA_int_01 450.6246 Mm-hm. 451.0110 294 DCA_int_01 451.0110 (pause 0.96) 451.9747 295 DCA_int_01 451.9747 How did you do that? What's- what's that like? 453.8930 296 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 454.4566 Well, the dog 455.8840 297 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 455.8840 (pause 0.22) 456.1022 298 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 456.1022 would tree- 456.8284 299 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 456.8284 (pause 0.27) 457.1022 300 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 457.1022 would- 457.5375 301 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 457.5375 (pause 0.96) 458.5012 302 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 458.5012 the possum. 459.2694 303 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 459.2694 (pause 0.51) 459.7785 304 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 459.7785 Then [the]- 460.2467 305 DCA_int_01 459.9921 [Get started.] 460.8649 306 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 460.6740 then the possum would go up the tree, 462.4241 307 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 463.0548 and someone would climb the tree 464.8776 308 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 464.8776 (pause 0.28) 465.1549 309 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 465.1549 and catch the possum. See a possum won't bite you. 467.3322 310 DCA_int_01 467.7459 [/Oh, it won't?/] 468.5857 311 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 467.8414 [But a coon]- 468.8096 312 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 470.1722 Uh- When he would go up the tree, you always have to shoot him because coon will tear you all to pieces. 474.6542 313 DCA_int_01 474.8758 No kidding. 475.5031 314 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 475.5031 Mm-hm. 475.9486 315 DCA_int_01 476.0349 They're vicious huh? 476.9577 316 DCA_int_01 476.9577 (pause 0.48) 477.4350 317 DCA_int_01 477.4350 They look so cute. [] 479.3078 318 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 478.6851 [] Yes, but they'll tear you all to pieces. 481.2931 319 DCA_int_01 482.7705 What did you do with a possum when you caught it? 484.7569 320 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 485.2297 Uh, we carried him home and- 486.7786 321 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 486.7786 (pause 0.89) 487.6696 322 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 487.6696 and put him up and feed him for over a month. See, then he'll be ready to kill. 491.8289 323 DCA_int_01 491.9050 Oh I [see.] 492.6641 324 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 492.2823 [And see], then you skin him, 493.7233 325 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 494.0960 and you sell his hide. 495.2643 326 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 495.2643 (pause 0.48) 495.7461 327 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 495.7461 And at that time, back in the countries his hide would always sell for six or eight dollars. 499.9134 328 DCA_int_01 500.0724 No [kidding.] 500.7134 329 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 500.3361 [See] you cure his hide. 501.6998 330 DCA_int_01 502.2044 Oh. 502.5998 331 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 502.4589 Now the coon hide, 503.8090 332 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 504.2033 you get 504.6715 333 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 504.6715 (pause 0.20) 504.8670 334 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 504.8670 um, thirty five 506.1398 335 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 506.1398 (pause 0.48) 506.6216 336 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 506.6216 to forty dollars 507.5444 337 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 507.5444 (pause 0.20) 507.7489 338 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 507.7489 /you know/. 508.3217 339 DCA_int_01 507.7899 That's not bad. 509.3899 340 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 509.1933 Mm-mm. 509.7434 341 DCA_int_01 510.6480 Hm. 510.8571 342 DCA_int_01 510.8571 (pause 1.63) 512.4889 343 DCA_int_01 512.4889 That's what- 513.0708 344 DCA_int_01 513.0708 (pause 0.75) 513.8163 345 DCA_int_01 513.8163 what I missed out on [growing] up around cities all the [time.] 516.7335 346 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 514.8163 [Uh-huh.] 515.1663 347 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 515.1663 (pause 1.11) 516.2789 348 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 516.2789 [Um.] 516.7607 349 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 517.0608 Well there are lots of people 518.4836 350 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 518.4836 (pause 0.54) 519.0199 351 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 519.0199 went out 519.4200 352 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 519.4200 (pause 0.33) 519.7518 353 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 519.7518 for 520.1291 354 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 520.1291 (pause 0.55) 520.6746 355 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 520.6746 the mink hunting, 521.6280 356 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 521.6280 (pause 0.31) 521.9371 357 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 521.9371 but 522.2826 358 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 522.2826 (pause 0.37) 522.6508 359 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 522.6508 n- n- That was a little rough because you had to be so particular, you couldn't leave your scent when you set your trap. 527.8999 360 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 527.8999 (pause 0.49) 528.3908 361 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 528.3908 Now lots of people did catch the minks, 530.3591 362 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 530.3591 (pause 0.76) 531.1228 363 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 531.1228 and- and- they got good money for those hide when they killed 'em proper. 534.5627 364 DCA_int_01 534.8264 Mm-hm. 535.3991 365 DCA_int_01 535.3991 (pause 0.63) 536.0264 366 DCA_int_01 536.0264 Do they have mink down in North [Carolina?] 537.7947 367 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 537.4447 [Oh yes.] Yes, find ['em in the] swamps 540.2437 368 DCA_int_01 539.2474 [/Oh really/?] 539.7944 369 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 540.9846 in- on the rivers. You know, North Carolina joins Dismal Swamp. 545.0110 370 DCA_int_01 545.6019 Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's right. 547.1883 371 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 547.2929 You know in History, you read a lot [about Dismal] Swamp. 549.8294 372 DCA_int_01 548.8748 [Uh-huh.] 549.2748 373 DCA_int_01 549.8464 Yeah. 550.1782 374 DCA_int_01 550.1782 (pause 1.38) 551.5556 375 DCA_int_01 551.5556 /Noted./ 552.0556 376 DCA_int_01 552.0556 (pause 0.94) 552.9920 377 DCA_int_01 552.9920 Well how do these dogs get- 554.0875 378 DCA_int_01 554.0875 (pause 0.57) 554.6557 379 DCA_int_01 554.6557 get on the trail of these animals? 556.7411 380 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 557.2956 Well, when we leave home, we would go out into the forest, 560.4367 381 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 560.4367 (pause 0.47) 560.9094 382 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 560.9094 and they just walk around and run around til they pick up 564.0039 383 DCA_int_01 564.4403 Mm-hm. 564.7858 384 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 564.7676 the scent of the track. 565.8994 385 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 566.1904 /Seen/, then they would trail. 567.6768 386 DCA_int_01 568.4348 How do you train one of those dogs? Or do they just do it by [instincts?] 571.7759 387 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 571.3531 [Well,] I think it's just a 573.0032 388 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 573.5703 instinct of a dog. 574.8067 389 DCA_int_01 574.8021 Hm. 575.0567 390 DCA_int_01 575.9931 There's nothing you can do to train 'em? 577.5250 391 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 577.5250 N- I don't think so. It's just a i- instinct. 580.0649 392 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 581.5877 But- but- I will say, now when a dog was small when you raise 'em, 585.2879 393 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 585.2879 (pause 0.28) 585.5697 394 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 585.5697 see they'll follow the older dog and [the older] dog teach 'em quite a bit. 589.5597 395 DCA_int_01 587.5596 [I see.] 587.9232 396 DCA_int_01 589.8597 So they learn from the- 591.2041 397 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 591.3177 Yes. 592.0223 398 DCA_int_01 592.2859 /Oh boy./ 592.7996 399 DCA_int_01 592.7996 (pause 0.79) 593.5860 400 DCA_int_01 593.5860 Yeah, that's interesting. 594.8088 401 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 594.8088 Mm-hm. 595.3042 402 DCA_int_01 595.3042 I wished I could have done [that.] 596.7214 403 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 596.4998 [Yeah.] 597.1271 404 DCA_int_01 596.8896 [] 597.4350 405 DCA_int_01 598.0851 Never had the /chance/. 599.2351 406 DCA_int_01 599.2351 (pause 1.16) 600.3943 407 DCA_int_01 600.3943 Thirty five dollars for a coon skin. 602.2580 408 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 602.4160 Oh- oh- 602.8569 409 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 602.8569 (pause 0.32) 603.1751 410 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 603.1751 When it's cured [proper.] 604.2479 411 DCA_int_01 604.0524 [When it's] cured right? 604.9297 412 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 604.9297 Mm-hm. 605.3343 413 DCA_int_01 606.8980 /Hm./ Oh that's more /??/ fascinating to me. 609.6833 414 DCA_int_01 609.6833 (pause 2.50) 612.1880 415 DCA_int_01 612.1880 Uh, 612.5835 416 DCA_int_01 612.5835 (pause 0.73) 613.3153 417 DCA_int_01 613.3153 what did you study in school? 614.7745 418 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 615.4689 [Uh], 615.9643 419 DCA_int_01 615.5325 [/That you remember./] 616.3598 420 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 617.1689 well my favorite subject was History. 619.2417 421 DCA_int_01 620.0236 No kidding. 620.5054 422 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 620.5782 Uh-huh. 621.1180 423 DCA_int_01 622.6226 What was so exciting about that? 624.2272 424 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 625.1091 Well, 625.8000 425 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 625.8000 (pause 0.45) 626.2546 426 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 626.2546 i- in History- 627.3671 427 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 627.3671 (pause 0.79) 628.1535 428 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 628.1535 See, w- when I was in s- school, George Washington had passed over a hundred years. 632.8163 429 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 632.8163 (pause 0.42) 633.2345 430 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 633.2345 You read about his life. Abraham Lincoln's life 636.5255 431 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 636.5255 (pause 0.56) 637.0846 432 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 637.0846 and 637.6710 433 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 637.6710 (pause 0.34) 638.0120 434 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 638.0120 Thomas Jefferson 639.2018 435 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 639.2018 (pause 0.52) 639.7245 436 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 639.7245 and lot of the great 640.9246 437 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 640.9246 (pause 0.41) 641.3383 438 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 641.3383 inventors that invented s- things that s- meant a lot to us today. 644.7237 439 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 644.7237 (pause 0.31) 645.0328 440 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 645.0328 I just enjoyed reading about it. 646.6510 441 DCA_int_01 646.7556 /inaudible/ 647.6465 442 DCA_int_01 647.6465 (pause 1.69) 649.3409 443 DCA_int_01 649.3409 Wha- 649.6091 444 DCA_int_01 649.6091 (pause 0.22) 649.8273 445 DCA_int_01 649.8273 Where did the Dismal Swamp exactly fit into history? I know I've heard the name, but I can't 654.5366 446 DCA_int_01 654.5366 (pause 0.31) 654.8503 447 DCA_int_01 654.8503 place it in History. 656.0901 448 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 656.3901 Uh, well, you know north of Virginia 658.5539 449 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 658.5539 (pause 0.30) 658.8539 450 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 658.8539 i- is known as tide water. 660.7812 451 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 660.7812 (pause 0.57) 661.3529 452 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 661.3529 Uh, uh, w- well, 662.9438 453 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 662.9438 (pause 0.53) 663.4711 454 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 663.4711 you know Dismal Swamp 664.8439 455 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 664.8439 (pause 0.55) 665.3894 456 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 665.3894 had some of the worst grizzly bear 667.5566 457 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 667.5566 (pause 0.32) 667.8748 458 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 667.8748 I think 668.3748 459 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 668.3748 (pause 0.32) 668.6930 460 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 668.6930 in- anywhere we have in this country. 670.9249 461 DCA_int_01 671.1976 Hm. 671.4249 462 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 671.5431 Not speaking of the foreign country, 673.2841 463 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 673.2841 (pause 0.31) 673.5921 464 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 673.5921 an- and I think 674.4830 465 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 674.4830 (pause 0.66) 675.1467 466 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 675.1467 uh, those animals that 676.5240 467 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 676.5240 (pause 0.26) 676.7877 468 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 676.7877 Dismal Swamp had, that's why made it go down in History. 679.9867 469 DCA_int_01 680.2822 Mm-hm. 680.8504 470 DCA_int_01 680.8504 (pause 0.79) 681.6413 471 DCA_int_01 681.6413 Mm-hm. 682.0913 472 DCA_int_01 682.0913 (pause 1.08) 683.1687 473 DCA_int_01 683.1687 I didn't think there was grizzly- Boy, I'm learning more things today. 686.1404 474 DCA_int_01 686.1404 (pause 0.31) 686.4540 475 DCA_int_01 686.4540 I didn't know there was- They were that far east. I thought- 689.1723 476 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 688.6405 O- Oh yes. Now you take north of about 691.2668 477 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 691.6804 two hundred and ten miles from here, 693.3351 478 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 693.3351 (pause 0.45) 693.7896 479 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 693.7896 and when you would go through 695.0715 480 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 695.0715 (pause 0.29) 695.3579 481 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 695.3579 Petersburg and go four sixty through Suffolk, 697.6614 482 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 697.6614 (pause 0.31) 697.9750 483 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 697.9750 you had to go through the heart of Dismal Swamp. 699.9115 484 DCA_int_01 700.2206 Hm. 700.4252 485 DCA_int_01 700.4252 (pause 1.03) 701.4570 486 DCA_int_01 701.4570 They're all gone now, aren't they? The bears? 703.5333 487 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 703.7469 I- 703.9651 488 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 703.9651 (pause 0.55) 704.5106 489 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 704.5106 uh- I don't think so [because] 706.3470 490 DCA_int_01 705.6925 [Really?] 706.0288 491 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 706.6243 I was down there September, 708.1562 492 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 708.1562 (pause 0.41) 708.5642 493 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 708.5642 and the people were telling me 709.8961 494 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 709.8961 (pause 0.42) 710.3143 495 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 710.3143 they still see those bears. 711.8825 496 DCA_int_01 712.2371 Gee whiz 712.7507 497 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 712.7917 Yes. 713.4280 498 DCA_int_01 713.8372 Hm. 714.0644 499 DCA_int_01 714.0644 (pause 1.17) 715.2361 500 DCA_int_01 715.2361 Incredible. 715.9725 501 DCA_int_01 715.9725 (pause 0.97) 716.9453 502 DCA_int_01 716.9453 Y- I don't- Guess I never learned much about [animal ?], 720.0722 503 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 719.7988 [Mm.] 720.0625 504 DCA_int_01 720.6830 but I thought they were all out west. 722.3524 505 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 722.5109 Oh no. 723.6766 506 DCA_int_01 723.7454 /Wild America./ 724.5892 507 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 724.7106 No you take i- 725.7411 508 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 725.7411 (pause 0.84) 726.5804 509 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 726.5804 Right near here. We have the deers and everything, but you don't have any bears around here. 731.5173 510 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 731.5173 (pause 0.18) 731.6992 511 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 731.6992 Th- 731.8204 512 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 731.8204 (pause 0.31) 732.1328 513 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 732.1328 Now Dismal Swamp is the nearest place I can tell about the bears. 735.9284 514 DCA_int_01 736.8552 Do people hunt them there or is it [too dangerous?] 739.4291 515 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 738.3100 [Oh- oh- uh- uh-] Well 740.1985 516 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 740.5622 when they go bear hunting, they always go on horseback., 742.8738 517 DCA_int_01 743.0976 Mm-hm. 743.5173 518 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 743.5080 because too dangerous, and they always carry the 745.7788 519 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 746.0306 high power rifles because 747.7839 520 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 747.7839 (pause 0.21) 747.9925 521 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 747.9925 if you just shoot a bear with a ordinary shot gun, 750.9628 522 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 750.9628 (pause 0.61) 751.5690 523 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 751.5690 unless you have buckshot 753.0378 524 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 753.0378 (pause 0.56) 753.5973 525 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 753.5973 he'll grab up leaves and stop hisself from bleeding and come for you. 756.6038 526 DCA_int_01 756.9488 Mm. 757.2752 527 DCA_int_01 757.2752 (pause 1.02) 758.2964 528 DCA_int_01 758.2964 /Mkay/. Did you ever hunt 759.5787 529 DCA_int_01 759.5787 (pause 0.30) 759.8760 530 DCA_int_01 759.8760 [/inaudible/?] 760.7433 531 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 760.3096 For bear hunting? 761.0044 532 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 761.2888 Oh no. 761.9649 533 DCA_int_01 762.4312 Mm. 762.7996 534 DCA_int_01 762.7996 (pause 3.52) 766.3236 535 DCA_int_01 766.3236 What else did you study besides history /inaudible/? 769.3498 536 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 769.5177 Well you know North Carolina /at/ that day, 771.8620 537 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 771.8620 (pause 0.41) 772.2723 538 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 772.2723 you had history, E- English, 774.5385 539 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 774.5385 (pause 0.54) 775.0747 540 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 775.0747 uh, 776.0633 541 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 776.0633 (pause 0.33) 776.3897 542 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 776.3897 Spelling and- and- 777.9750 543 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 777.9750 (pause 0.98) 778.9578 544 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 778.9578 and we had two foreign languages so you could take Latin, uh, 783.8585 545 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 783.8585 (pause 1.10) 784.9578 546 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 784.9578 uh, French. 785.9183 547 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 785.9183 (pause 0.69) 786.6131 548 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 786.6131 Well, I taken Latin but I can't recall too much of it now. It's been so many years. 791.8903 549 DCA_int_01 792.4499 Mm, remember any of the French? 794.3104 550 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 795.4668 Uh- uh- I didn't take French. [I took Latin.] 797.5826 551 DCA_int_01 796.7712 [Oh you didn't.] You took Latin [instead of French.] 798.8089 552 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 798.0209 [Uh-huh.] Yeah, see, you had a choice of two. 800.4922 553 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 801.3455 See you had to take 802.0730 554 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 802.0730 (pause 0.86) 802.9298 555 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 802.9298 one of the subjects to graduate from high school. 805.1027 556 DCA_int_01 805.4384 Mm-hm. 806.0120 557 DCA_int_01 806.0120 (pause 1.47) 807.4808 558 DCA_int_01 807.4808 Did you ever have a teacher that hollered a lot anywhere 809.6805 559 DCA_int_01 809.6805 (pause 0.35) 810.0256 560 DCA_int_01 810.0256 along the line? 810.8322 561 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 810.7903 Well, 811.6669 562 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 812.6415 uh, all my teachers was pretty nice. 814.9717 563 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 814.9717 (pause 0.80) 815.7738 564 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 815.7738 Uh, now my English teacher, I m- mind her very much because 820.2303 565 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 820.2303 (pause 0.41) 820.6360 566 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 820.6360 821.8064 567 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 821.8064 (pause 0.20) 822.0069 568 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 822.0069 she had us all 823.0281 569 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 823.0281 (pause 0.49) 823.5177 570 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 823.5177 /boys/, 824.3897 571 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 824.3897 (pause 0.52) 824.9119 572 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 824.9119 and 825.4155 573 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 825.4155 (pause 2.42) 827.8330 574 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 827.8330 she always was on me because I was very mischievous, but 831.3814 575 DCA_int_01 831.3954 Oh yeah? 831.8710 576 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 832.4446 after years pass, I mind her very much for it. 835.3251 577 DCA_int_01 835.7308 Mm-hm. 836.1877 578 DCA_int_01 836.1877 (pause 0.42) 836.6120 579 DCA_int_01 836.6120 Mm-hm. 837.0643 580 DCA_int_01 837.0643 (pause 0.66) 837.7265 581 DCA_int_01 837.7265 What did she holler about? Do you remember? 839.6709 582 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 839.7642 [Uh, n- n-] not getting my lesson. 841.6188 583 DCA_int_01 839.8936 [/inaudible/] 840.4158 584 DCA_int_01 841.7820 Oh. 842.0525 585 DCA_int_01 842.0525 (pause 2.57) 844.6217 586 DCA_int_01 844.6217 Was it fair or 845.4564 587 DCA_int_01 845.4564 (pause 0.25) 845.7035 588 DCA_int_01 845.7035 do you think she was picking on you? 847.1945 589 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 847.2551 Well, 847.9126 590 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 847.9126 (pause 0.59) 848.5048 591 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 848.5048 it- it- it wasn't a pi- 849.7778 592 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 849.7778 (pause 0.34) 850.1182 593 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 850.1182 pick. 850.5005 594 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 850.5005 (pause 0.16) 850.6591 595 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 850.6591 She was trying to help me, 852.1512 596 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 852.1512 (pause 0.45) 852.6023 597 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 852.6023 and at that age, you know, I didn't want to hear it. 855.4094 598 DCA_int_01 855.4241 856.4679 599 DCA_int_01 856.4679 (pause 0.19) 856.6591 600 DCA_int_01 856.6591 Hard for kids to understand that. 858.3610 601 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 859.2085 Well, n- n- no longer than 860.7193 602 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 860.7193 (pause 0.35) 861.0737 603 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 861.0737 two weeks ago, I saw her at my sister's funeral, 864.0253 604 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 864.0253 (pause 0.40) 864.4298 605 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 864.4298 and I told her 865.1992 606 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 865.1992 (pause 0.72) 865.9173 607 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 865.9173 how much I minded her for it then. At that time I couldn't see it but I saw it 870.1046 608 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 870.1046 (pause 0.37) 870.4718 609 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 870.4718 now. 870.8261 610 DCA_int_01 870.8728 Mm-mm. 871.3297 611 DCA_int_01 871.3297 (pause 1.31) 872.6354 612 DCA_int_01 872.6354 No kidding. 873.2136 613 DCA_int_01 873.2136 (pause 2.24) 875.4517 614 DCA_int_01 875.4517 Uh could- What- Who was the best teacher you ever had? Would that be the one? 879.0830 615 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 879.3021 Yes, I- I- I'm going to say 880.9108 616 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 880.9108 (pause 0.35) 881.2559 617 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 881.2559 Miss /RD-NAME-3/. 882.4110 618 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 882.4110 (pause 0.48) 882.8914 619 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 882.8914 Now she's married, and it's /RD-NAME-3/. 885.2835 620 DCA_int_01 885.6798 Mm-hm. 886.2534 621 DCA_int_01 886.2534 (pause 1.86) 888.1127 622 DCA_int_01 888.1127 What was there about her besides her trying to correct you? 891.0783 623 DCA_int_01 891.0783 (pause 0.50) 891.5819 624 DCA_int_01 891.5819 /inaudible/ 892.4306 625 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 892.1974 Well, 892.9761 626 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 893.4751 now 894.0719 627 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 894.0719 (pause 0.37) 894.4391 628 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 894.4391 she would always take 895.8287 629 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 895.8287 (pause 0.69) 896.5188 630 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 896.5188 more interest 897.5260 631 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 897.5260 (pause 0.30) 897.8244 632 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 897.8244 in not only me, all the children than some of the other teachers that I've had. 901.5163 633 DCA_int_01 901.8100 Mm-hm. 902.3509 634 DCA_int_01 902.3509 (pause 1.93) 904.2767 635 DCA_int_01 904.2767 That's really important. 905.3818 636 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 906.2619 It really is. 907.3158 637 DCA_int_01 907.9779 Did you ever have a teacher that you just couldn't stand? 910.0995 638 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 910.6404 Oh- uh- Oh yes. [Oh yes.] 912.9847 639 DCA_int_01 912.0195 [] What were they like? 914.1970 640 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 915.0690 Well it was pretty miserable. I had a teacher when I was in the elementary school 919.0723 641 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 919.0723 (pause 0.28) 919.3569 642 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 919.3569 /that just started at the school/. 920.5875 643 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 920.5875 (pause 0.30) 920.8859 644 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 920.8859 I was left handed, 921.8337 645 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 921.8337 (pause 0.37) 922.2068 646 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 922.2068 and she always whipped me 923.6056 647 DCA_int_01 923.7490 Hm. 924.0241 648 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 925.3064 for writing left handed. She always wanted me to write right handed. 928.5798 649 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 928.5798 (pause 0.90) 929.4751 650 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 929.4751 And to the day, I'll never forget that I remember her for that. 933.0504 651 DCA_int_01 933.1949 Hm. 933.4793 652 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 935.1720 And I remember those days 936.6863 653 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 936.6863 (pause 0.36) 937.0453 654 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 937.0453 when 937.3391 655 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 937.3391 (pause 0.46) 937.7960 656 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 937.7960 she got angry and wouldn't even let me go to the blackboard. At that time, you know, you had blackboards 942.6769 657 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 942.6769 (pause 0.55) 943.2225 658 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 943.2225 a- to write. All the other classes go to the /back/ board and write. I couldn't because I couldn't write in my right hand. 949.1106 659 DCA_int_01 949.2691 Hm. 949.6561 660 DCA_int_01 949.6561 (pause 0.48) 950.1318 661 DCA_int_01 950.1318 /Oh, that's nasty./ 951.9783 662 DCA_int_01 951.9783 (pause 0.58) 952.5565 663 DCA_int_01 952.5565 Mm-hm. 953.1160 664 DCA_int_01 953.1160 (pause 1.35) 954.4671 665 DCA_int_01 954.4671 When you were 955.3997 666 DCA_int_01 955.3997 (pause 0.38) 955.7820 667 DCA_int_01 955.7820 back in your mischievous age, 957.6006 668 DCA_int_01 957.6006 (pause 0.25) 957.8524 669 DCA_int_01 957.8524 did you or any of the kids in the class ever play any tricks on the teacher? 961.1852 670 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 962.9897 No. 963.8617 671 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 963.8617 (pause 0.18) 964.0389 672 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 964.0389 We didn't ever play any tricks on the teacher because 966.3937 673 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 966.3937 (pause 0.33) 966.7189 674 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 966.7189 our teachers were very strict. [] 969.5633 675 DCA_int_01 968.2670 [] 968.9897 676 DCA_int_01 970.3653 Mm-hm. 970.8875 677 DCA_int_01 970.8875 (pause 1.22) 972.1034 678 DCA_int_01 972.1034 Never put tacks on their chairs? 973.8380 679 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 973.7214 Oh no. 974.3742 680 DCA_int_01 974.3602 974.7846 681 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 974.7566 No [indeed.] 976.2114 682 DCA_int_01 975.4187 [Wouldn't think of it] then huh? 976.8176 683 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 976.7756 No. 977.4471 684 DCA_int_01 977.8423 Mm-hm. 978.4811 685 DCA_int_01 978.4811 (pause 0.43) 978.9101 686 DCA_int_01 978.9101 Good. 979.2132 687 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 980.4209 But the kids in the classroom, we played tricks on them, put tacks in the chairs and- 985.4277 688 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 985.4277 (pause 0.45) 985.8800 689 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 985.8800 and pinned their coat 987.2555 690 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 987.2555 (pause 0.58) 987.8337 691 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 987.8337 down to the seat. They go to get up, they [have to take the whole chair up.] 991.2971 692 DCA_int_01 989.8656 [] That's funny. 993.8664 693 DCA_int_01 994.2953 Did you ever do any other things like that? 996.1325 694 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 996.1780 Uh, that's about all in school. 998.2810 695 DCA_int_01 999.7405 Mm, good. 1000.3979 696 DCA_int_01 1000.3979 (pause 1.53) 1001.9320 697 DCA_int_01 1001.9320 When you were 1002.4110 698 DCA_int_01 1002.4110 (pause 0.46) 1002.8681 699 DCA_int_01 1002.8681 that age or older even, was there a bunch of kids that you always hung around? 1006.7943 700 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1007.1487 Oh yes. Th- the kids that lived in my community. 1010.2716 701 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1010.2716 (pause 0.35) 1010.6167 702 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1010.6167 See we always went around together. 1013.1440 703 DCA_int_01 1013.4797 Mm-hm. 1013.9880 704 DCA_int_01 1013.9880 (pause 0.93) 1014.9194 705 DCA_int_01 1014.9194 Do you ever see any of 'em any more? 1016.4861 706 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1016.7986 No. As the years pass by, 1019.0041 707 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1019.0041 (pause 0.54) 1019.5403 708 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1019.5403 you never see 'em anymore. 1020.8075 709 DCA_int_01 1021.5955 Is there a group of adults that you associate with now? 1024.2860 710 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1024.2580 Now? 1024.9202 711 DCA_int_01 1025.7723 [More or less.] 1026.4485 712 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1026.0241 [N-] 1026.2060 713 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1026.8168 No, the man live the next door to me, 1029.7591 714 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1029.7591 (pause 0.31) 1030.0715 715 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1030.0715 we still see 1030.7710 716 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1030.7710 (pause 0.23) 1030.9994 717 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1030.9994 quite- quite a bit, but 1032.5137 718 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1032.5137 (pause 0.55) 1033.0686 719 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1033.0686 now 1033.9079 720 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1033.9079 (pause 0.67) 1034.5794 721 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1034.5794 at fifty, see, I don't get around like I used to. 1037.9600 722 DCA_int_01 1041.0270 Were they all colored kids that you would play with? 1043.4751 723 DCA_int_01 1043.4751 (pause 0.38) 1043.8563 724 DCA_int_01 1043.8563 [/inaudible/] 1044.8868 725 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1043.8854 [Uh- uh in the country], when I was growing up, no see, 1047.0457 726 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1047.3674 in the country where I growed up, 1049.3165 727 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1049.3165 (pause 0.35) 1049.6709 728 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1049.6709 a white person live here, a Negro live there. 1052.5934 729 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1052.5934 (pause 0.68) 1053.2695 730 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1053.2695 And it wasn't as much in the country as it was in the city when I first left. 1057.8193 731 DCA_int_01 1058.0199 Hm. 1058.3043 732 DCA_int_01 1058.3043 (pause 2.56) 1060.8596 733 DCA_int_01 1060.8596 Okay, /unintelligible/. 1062.1232 734 DCA_int_01 1062.1232 (pause 1.74) 1063.8660 735 DCA_int_01 1063.8660 Uh, did any of- 1064.7706 736 DCA_int_01 1064.7706 (pause 0.60) 1065.3721 737 DCA_int_01 1065.3721 besides what they learned in school- did any of 1067.6616 738 DCA_int_01 1067.6616 (pause 0.57) 1068.2293 739 DCA_int_01 1068.2293 the kids speak any foreign languages? 1070.1784 740 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1070.2204 Oh, no. Just what they learned in school. 1072.5518 741 DCA_int_01 1072.5984 Mm-hm. 1073.2699 742 DCA_int_01 1073.2699 (pause 1.17) 1074.4438 743 DCA_int_01 1074.4438 Oh, very good. 1075.4510 744 DCA_int_01 1075.4510 (pause 1.46) 1076.9151 745 DCA_int_01 1076.9151 Was there one kid 1078.1415 746 DCA_int_01 1078.1415 (pause 0.32) 1078.4632 747 DCA_int_01 1078.4632 that was looked up to as the leader that you remember? 1081.2318 748 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1081.4370 Oh- oh yes. You know, that's always the 1083.6099 749 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1083.6099 (pause 0.47) 1084.0809 750 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1084.0809 case. See, in any community, there is one kid that 1087.9406 751 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1087.9406 (pause 0.24) 1088.1831 752 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1088.1831 you look up to and follow most. 1090.0995 753 DCA_int_01 1090.9015 Who was that? 1091.7548 754 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1092.0894 Uh- uh- Well, that was um, 1093.5349 755 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1093.5349 (pause 0.78) 1094.3183 756 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1094.3183 a boy that u- 1095.2882 757 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1095.2882 (pause 0.62) 1095.9130 758 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1095.9130 His name was /RD-NAME-4/. 1097.4797 759 DCA_int_01 1097.6744 Oh yeah? 1098.1873 760 DCA_int_01 1098.1873 (pause 0.74) 1098.9287 761 DCA_int_01 1098.9287 What was he like that made him such a good leader? 1101.3255 762 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1101.8990 Well, 1102.6124 763 DCA_int_01 1102.7530 1103.1393 764 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1103.1533 he's a fine person and 1105.2318 765 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1105.2318 (pause 0.35) 1105.5769 766 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1105.5769 see, he- he liked to sing. 1107.2742 767 DCA_int_01 1107.6519 /inaudible/ 1108.2161 768 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1107.9270 In the- At- During that time, we always had quartets and had /courses/ and everything. 1112.6307 769 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1113.1436 And he could sing better I thought, and so 1115.8155 770 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1115.8155 (pause 0.69) 1116.5091 771 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1116.5091 uh, he- he always organized those things and the other things, we always 1121.5870 772 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1121.5870 (pause 0.40) 1121.9868 773 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1121.9868 leave it to him to organize because uh, 1124.3416 774 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1124.3416 (pause 0.69) 1125.0364 775 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1125.0364 he- he worked 1125.6472 776 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1125.6472 (pause 0.48) 1126.1228 777 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1126.1228 pretty good i- in the community. On things like that. 1128.8028 778 DCA_int_01 1128.9054 Mm. 1129.2365 779 DCA_int_01 1129.2365 (pause 1.78) 1131.0188 780 DCA_int_01 1131.0188 It was partly his uh, singing ability. 1132.8596 781 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1132.8782 Yes. 1133.6616 782 DCA_int_01 1134.4065 If a new kid moved into the- 1135.7634 783 DCA_int_01 1135.7634 (pause 0.28) 1136.0385 784 DCA_int_01 1136.0385 into the community, could he get into the bunch or 1138.5425 785 DCA_int_01 1138.5425 (pause 0.82) 1139.3632 786 DCA_int_01 1139.3632 would he have to be initiated? 1140.9334 787 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1141.4137 Well, in the country, until I- 1143.0923 788 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1143.0923 (pause 0.28) 1143.3674 789 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1143.3674 I was twenty one when I left there. 1145.1067 790 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1145.1067 (pause 0.41) 1145.5217 791 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1145.5217 See, you didn't have new people to move in. 1147.8380 792 DCA_int_01 1147.8660 Mm-hm. 1148.3090 793 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1148.3043 It was just the regular bunch. 1150.3140 794 DCA_int_01 1151.6884 You think if anyone had moved in, 1153.6422 795 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1154.1970 Well- 1154.8545 796 DCA_int_01 1154.9245 would you have accepted them? 1156.3889 797 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1156.3326 Uh, I'm sure we'd have been more than glad to have them with us. 1159.2505 798 DCA_int_01 1159.4790 Mm-hm. 1159.9452 799 DCA_int_01 1159.9452 (pause 2.29) 1162.2347 800 DCA_int_01 1162.2347 It's different sometimes in the city cause 1164.3086 801 DCA_int_01 1164.3086 (pause 0.99) 1165.3018 802 DCA_int_01 1165.3018 /if you have/ a group of kids, and if a new kid wants to get in, he's got to be- 1168.7570 803 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1168.8223 All together different [here.] 1170.1885 804 DCA_int_01 1169.4424 [/inaudible./] 1170.1512 805 DCA_int_01 1170.5697 Take some kind of punishment or something. 1172.5095 806 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1172.5281 Mm. 1172.8778 807 DCA_int_01 1173.1576 Get beat up or- 1173.9838 808 DCA_int_01 1173.9838 (pause 1.93) 1175.9180 809 DCA_int_01 1175.9180 Uh, 1176.1885 810 DCA_int_01 1176.1885 (pause 0.65) 1176.8355 811 DCA_int_01 1176.8355 well that's really good. 1177.8427 812 DCA_int_01 1177.8427 (pause 1.46) 1179.3068 813 DCA_int_01 1179.3068 If you could start your life over again, would you do anything different? 1182.3966 814 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1183.1852 W- Well, 1184.1318 815 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1184.1318 (pause 0.32) 1184.4488 816 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1184.4488 when I was a little boy, 1185.8337 817 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1185.8337 (pause 0.30) 1186.1321 818 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1186.1321 I used to hear my forefathers and elderly men sit and talk. 1189.4976 819 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1189.4976 (pause 0.80) 1190.2996 820 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1190.2996 They said, if I had my life to live again, I would live it so much differently. 1194.4158 821 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1194.4158 (pause 0.21) 1194.6210 822 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1194.6210 Well, I was a little boy then, and I always said to myself then, 1198.0249 823 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1198.0249 (pause 0.33) 1198.3513 824 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1198.3513 I said, now when I get that age, 1200.3086 825 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1200.3086 (pause 0.37) 1200.6816 826 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1200.6816 I don't d- be able to say those words. I- I want to say 1203.7078 827 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1203.7078 (pause 0.27) 1203.9783 828 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1203.9783 that 1204.2627 829 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1204.2627 (pause 0.64) 1204.9015 830 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1204.9015 the days I've passed I lived it so well, I don't regret it. 1208.3090 831 DCA_int_01 1208.5654 Mm-hm. 1209.0643 832 DCA_int_01 1209.0643 (pause 0.41) 1209.4747 833 DCA_int_01 1209.4747 And that's the way you feel now? 1210.7243 834 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1210.7057 Oh sure, that's the way I feel now. 1212.4158 835 DCA_int_01 1212.4997 Oh, that's great. 1213.2505 836 DCA_int_01 1213.2505 (pause 0.27) 1213.5163 837 DCA_int_01 1213.5163 That's good. 1214.2110 838 DCA_int_01 1214.2110 (pause 1.38) 1215.5959 839 DCA_int_01 1215.5959 What did you hope to be when you were a child /inaudible/? 1218.7982 840 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1219.5396 Well, when I was a child, I wanted to be a brick layer. 1222.4903 841 DCA_int_01 1225.1619 Didn't turn out? 1225.9219 842 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1226.2810 Well, 1226.7799 843 DCA_int_01 1226.8872 Or were you a break layer? 1228.0435 844 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1228.0389 Yes. 1228.6870 845 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1229.0741 Uh- uh, 1229.7642 846 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1229.7642 (pause 0.41) 1230.1733 847 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1230.1733 h- I- I- 1231.4090 848 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1231.4090 (pause 0.23) 1231.6375 849 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1231.6375 take this 1232.1504 850 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1232.1504 (pause 0.23) 1232.3836 851 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1232.3836 course in school when I came out of the service. 1234.7103 852 DCA_int_01 1234.9528 Oh. 1235.3072 853 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1235.3305 And I learned to be a brick layer by trade. 1237.3297 854 DCA_int_01 1237.7774 Hm. 1238.1224 855 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1238.1737 Well the cold winter months, 1240.0016 856 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1240.0016 (pause 0.66) 1240.6637 857 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1240.6637 you didn't work. 1241.3200 858 DCA_int_01 1241.4879 Oh yeah? 1242.0055 859 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1242.1873 I know there was times I traveled from city to city. 1244.8638 860 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1244.8638 (pause 0.73) 1245.5912 861 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1245.5912 Uh, you work 1246.5145 862 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1246.5145 (pause 0.23) 1246.7476 863 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1246.7476 two, three hours a day when it freezing. 1248.7236 864 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1248.7236 (pause 0.33) 1249.0546 865 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1249.0546 Well, 1249.5769 866 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1249.5769 (pause 0.58) 1250.1551 867 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1250.1551 I decided to look for something different. 1251.7684 868 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1251.7684 (pause 0.74) 1252.5052 869 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1252.5052 Course the money were good, but 1254.0952 870 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1254.0952 (pause 0.99) 1255.0826 871 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1255.0826 I looked at it this way, if I could get a inside job 1258.3653 872 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1258.3653 (pause 0.26) 1258.6217 873 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1258.6217 in twelve months, 1259.5776 874 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1259.5776 (pause 0.23) 1259.8061 875 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1259.8061 it'll amount to the same. 1261.5489 876 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1261.5489 (pause 0.33) 1261.8800 877 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1261.8800 See, in the summer, 1263.0690 878 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1263.0690 (pause 0.28) 1263.3488 879 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1263.3488 there's some time when you catch up with the carpenters or 1266.2759 880 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1266.2759 (pause 0.21) 1266.4811 881 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1266.4811 you have to wait for 'em to pour concrete. 1268.4955 882 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1268.4955 (pause 0.28) 1268.7706 883 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1268.7706 You walk around two or three days and 1270.6311 884 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1270.6311 (pause 0.37) 1271.0041 885 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1271.0041 so, the job I have now 1272.7003 886 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1272.7003 (pause 0.32) 1273.0173 887 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1273.0173 /amounts, uh/ 1274.1737 888 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1274.1737 (pause 0.14) 1274.3183 889 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1274.3183 about as much as the average brick layer make. 1276.3326 890 DCA_int_01 1276.4446 Mm-hm. 1277.0228 891 DCA_int_01 1277.0228 (pause 0.40) 1277.4273 892 DCA_int_01 1277.4273 Hm. 1277.7024 893 DCA_int_01 1277.7024 (pause 0.76) 1278.4671 894 DCA_int_01 1278.4671 That's interesting. 1279.5675 895 DCA_int_01 1279.5675 (pause 1.23) 1280.7939 896 DCA_int_01 1280.7939 What did you have to do to become a brick layer? 1282.8642 897 DCA_int_01 1282.8642 (pause 0.35) 1283.2186 898 DCA_int_01 1283.2186 Was there a school? You said you went to school? 1285.2085 899 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1285.4556 Yes. 1285.9266 900 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1285.9266 (pause 0.60) 1286.5234 901 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1286.5234 Uh, the GI school here on fourteenth street. 1289.1020 902 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1289.1020 (pause 0.58) 1289.6802 903 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1289.6802 W- Well, it was just instructors there 1291.9406 904 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1291.9406 (pause 0.28) 1292.2250 905 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1292.2250 to teach you how to build corners, 1294.1415 906 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1294.1415 (pause 0.34) 1294.4819 907 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1294.4819 th- that teach you how to build a fireplace, 1296.6117 908 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1296.6117 (pause 0.53) 1297.1386 909 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1297.1386 and teach you how to lay bricks on the line and everything. 1300.1228 910 DCA_int_01 1300.9377 Mm-hm. 1301.3247 911 DCA_int_01 1301.3247 (pause 0.90) 1302.2246 912 DCA_int_01 1302.2246 How long did it take? 1303.1712 913 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1303.3064 Uh, well, just three months. 1305.3115 914 DCA_int_01 1306.3093 Hm. 1306.6451 915 DCA_int_01 1306.6451 (pause 2.26) 1308.9054 916 DCA_int_01 1308.9054 What does a- What actually does a brick layer do? 1311.5679 917 DCA_int_01 1311.5679 (pause 0.98) 1312.5518 918 DCA_int_01 1312.5518 I know, lay bricks of course, but- 1314.5231 919 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1315.1292 Uh- Uh- 1315.8100 920 DCA_int_01 1315.9452 What kind of different jobs did you get on? 1317.9596 921 DCA_int_01 1317.9596 (pause 0.16) 1318.1182 922 DCA_int_01 1318.1182 When you were a brick layer. 1319.1533 923 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1319.9402 Oh, I worked in- You mean what cities I worked- brick [laying work?] 1323.0690 924 DCA_int_01 1322.7426 [No, what] kind of things did you do? What kind of things did you build? 1326.1185 925 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1327.4556 Uh- uh- We build houses and apartments. 1329.6752 926 DCA_int_01 1329.7451 Mm-hm. 1330.2534 927 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1331.5951 See, a brick layer, 1333.1945 928 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1333.1945 (pause 0.27) 1333.4650 929 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1333.4650 see, he would go around and find a 1335.1203 930 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1335.1203 (pause 0.25) 1335.3721 931 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1335.3721 contractor that needed brick layers see? 1337.6942 932 DCA_int_01 1337.7350 Mm-hm. 1338.1653 933 DCA_int_01 1338.1653 (pause 1.42) 1339.5815 934 DCA_int_01 1339.5815 You had to go around on your own? 1341.0970 935 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1341.1250 Oh- oh yes. 1342.3700 936 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1342.3700 (pause 0.38) 1342.7523 937 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1342.7523 [See just]- 1343.1766 938 DCA_int_01 1342.8875 [You] didn't work for one company? 1344.4110 939 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1344.7282 Uh- uh, no. 1345.8613 940 DCA_int_01 1345.8893 Hm. 1346.2903 941 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1346.3509 Uh, 1346.8405 942 DCA_int_01 1347.0410 1347.4980 943 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1347.9503 just /yourself/, 1348.7290 944 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1348.7290 (pause 0.26) 1348.9855 945 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1348.9855 it's this company 1350.1232 946 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1350.1232 (pause 0.31) 1350.4298 947 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1350.4298 had a large 1351.3531 948 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1351.3531 (pause 0.29) 1351.6468 949 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1351.6468 contract, 1352.3276 950 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1352.3276 (pause 0.30) 1352.6307 951 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1352.6307 well sometime it last a year and a half or so. 1354.8129 952 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1354.8129 (pause 0.46) 1355.2734 953 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1355.2734 Well, 1355.8982 954 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1355.8982 (pause 0.54) 1356.4391 955 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1356.4391 when uh, 1357.0826 956 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1357.0826 (pause 0.61) 1357.6888 957 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1357.6888 he finish his building, 1358.9804 958 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1358.9804 (pause 0.26) 1359.2415 959 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1359.2415 Let's say if he had a new building. 1360.5984 960 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1360.5984 (pause 0.35) 1360.9482 961 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1360.9482 It take from three to four months to get ready for brick layers, you know. For digging out the foundation, 1365.5866 962 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1365.5866 (pause 0.35) 1365.9363 963 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1365.9363 pouring concrete 1366.9015 964 DCA_int_01 1367.1160 /Mm/. 1367.4704 965 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1367.5019 to get ready for a brick layer. 1368.7376 966 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1368.7376 (pause 0.28) 1369.0173 967 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1369.0173 And see, that's why 1369.8706 968 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1369.8706 (pause 0.31) 1370.1784 969 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1370.1784 you work from company to company. 1371.7918 970 DCA_int_01 1371.9596 I see. 1372.5378 971 DCA_int_01 1372.5378 (pause 0.75) 1373.2839 972 DCA_int_01 1373.2839 Were you in union or anything? 1374.7655 973 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1374.7702 Oh, oh, no. I never joined a union. 1376.5328 974 DCA_int_01 1376.8079 Mm. 1377.2322 975 DCA_int_01 1377.2322 (pause 0.55) 1377.7871 976 DCA_int_01 1377.7871 You didn't join a union. 1378.9575 977 DCA_int_01 1378.9575 (pause 1.10) 1380.0568 978 DCA_int_01 1380.0568 Okay, here's a question that's going to test your imagination. 1382.8452 979 DCA_int_01 1382.8452 (pause 0.42) 1383.2648 980 DCA_int_01 1383.2648 Suppose someone were to give you all the money you ever wanted in the world. 1386.6536 981 DCA_int_01 1386.6536 (pause 0.25) 1386.9008 982 DCA_int_01 1386.9008 What would you do with it? 1387.8100 983 DCA_int_01 1387.8100 (pause 0.99) 1388.7986 984 DCA_int_01 1388.7986 Have you ever thought about that? 1390.0296 985 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1391.4098 Well, 1392.2211 986 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1392.2211 (pause 1.25) 1393.4696 987 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1393.4696 I'm a 1393.9359 988 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1393.9359 (pause 0.63) 1394.5654 989 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1394.5654 kind of good Christian, 1396.3093 990 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1396.3093 (pause 1.01) 1397.3212 991 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1397.3212 uh, 1398.2817 992 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1398.2817 (pause 1.01) 1399.2924 993 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1399.2924 I would spread it amongst the needy. 1400.8172 994 DCA_int_01 1401.9410 Hm. 1402.2207 995 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1402.2814 That's right. 1402.8409 996 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1402.8409 (pause 0.57) 1403.4144 997 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1403.4144 That's right. 1403.9320 998 DCA_int_01 1405.0546 Do you know you would do it? How you- 1406.8592 999 DCA_int_01 1406.8592 (pause 1.58) 1408.4399 1000 DCA_int_01 1408.4399 Would you give it an organization? 1410.1232 1001 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1410.6350 U- Uh, 1411.4183 1002 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1411.4183 (pause 0.18) 1411.6002 1003 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1411.6002 yes. 1412.3183 1004 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1412.3183 (pause 0.42) 1412.7379 1005 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1412.7379 You know, different organization. 1414.2068 1006 DCA_int_01 1416.4811 Mm-hm. 1416.9381 1007 DCA_int_01 1416.9381 (pause 0.20) 1417.1386 1008 DCA_int_01 1417.1386 Do you have any in particular in mind? 1419.1187 1009 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1419.7078 Well, one. 1421.1440 1010 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1421.1440 (pause 0.28) 1421.4273 1011 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1421.4273 /I'm a fond of children/ 1422.6723 1012 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1422.6723 (pause 0.76) 1423.4370 1013 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1423.4370 Uh, you ever heard of the Catholics home they had had 1426.8596 1014 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1426.8596 (pause 0.62) 1427.4832 1015 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1427.4832 for the- 1427.9355 1016 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1427.9355 (pause 0.37) 1428.3039 1017 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1428.3039 the children that don't have fathers and mothers. 1430.2577 1018 DCA_int_01 1430.2017 Mm-hm. 1430.6727 1019 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1431.4840 Well, th- that's the first place. 1434.4858 1020 DCA_int_01 1437.1343 Okay, suppose you could give 1438.2580 1021 DCA_int_01 1438.2580 (pause 0.27) 1438.5285 1022 DCA_int_01 1438.5285 hundreds of thousands of dollars to 1440.4578 1023 DCA_int_01 1440.4578 (pause 0.69) 1441.1432 1024 DCA_int_01 1441.1432 the needy and still had 1442.2716 1025 DCA_int_01 1442.2716 (pause 0.86) 1443.1343 1026 DCA_int_01 1443.1343 a hundred thousand left over for yourself, 1445.0787 1027 DCA_int_01 1445.0787 (pause 0.33) 1445.4040 1028 DCA_int_01 1445.4040 what would you do? 1446.2433 1029 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1446.2293 Well, that's the problem 1447.7447 1030 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1448.0432 n- now. 1448.8825 1031 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1448.8825 (pause 0.49) 1449.3768 1032 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1449.3768 We have so many people in need and /unintelligible/ hunger right here in America 1454.2250 1033 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1454.2250 (pause 0.62) 1454.8405 1034 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1454.8405 I don't think I would ha- have that much left. 1456.7243 1035 DCA_int_01 1457.2233 You wouldn't keep any. 1458.1792 1036 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1458.1640 No indeed. 1459.0267 1037 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1459.2318 Uh- uh- uh- uh- Enough to live on. Like I'd pick up the paper. 1463.2139 1038 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1463.2139 (pause 0.42) 1463.6324 1039 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1463.6324 Now right here in Mississippi I was reading about not long ago, 1466.8592 1040 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1466.8592 (pause 0.34) 1467.1949 1041 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1467.1949 now they has /counters/ in Mississippi 1469.1347 1042 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1469.1347 (pause 0.34) 1469.4739 1043 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1469.4739 but the average person only make three hundred dollars a year. 1472.5048 1044 DCA_int_01 1472.4955 Oh. 1472.8125 1045 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1473.3814 That's right. Three hundred dollars a year. 1475.3818 1046 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1475.3818 (pause 0.43) 1475.8143 1047 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1475.8143 Now that's happening right here in Mississippi and Alabama. 1478.5048 1048 DCA_int_01 1479.7778 S- How can anybody ever make it? 1481.5170 1049 DCA_int_01 1481.5170 (pause 0.87) 1482.3878 1050 DCA_int_01 1482.3878 On that. 1482.9847 1051 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1483.7774 Well, i- it's pr- pretty rough. 1486.2324 1052 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1486.2324 (pause 1.75) 1487.9833 1053 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1487.9833 Uh, a few years ago, about three years ago, you know Mr Drew Pearson got a - 1492.7523 1054 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1492.7523 (pause 0.28) 1493.0321 1055 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1493.0321 a lot of criticism 1494.3179 1056 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1494.3179 (pause 0.34) 1494.6536 1057 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1494.6536 because he and Dick Gregory 1496.2716 1058 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1496.2716 (pause 0.42) 1496.6913 1059 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1496.6913 loaded up /these here/ cargo planes, and- You might read about it- and send it down for [Christmas.] 1500.7935 1060 DCA_int_01 1500.5231 [Mm-hm.] /Yes, I did./ 1501.9219 1061 DCA_int_01 1502.7519 Mm-hm. Yeah, that's right. 1504.0202 1062 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1504.1135 Mm-hm. 1504.5658 1063 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1504.5658 (pause 1.57) 1506.1407 1064 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1506.1407 See I [always] 1506.8541 1065 DCA_int_01 1506.4764 [/Unintelligible/] 1507.2365 1066 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1507.2924 had a tender feeling for the person that 1509.1436 1067 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1509.1436 (pause 0.34) 1509.4793 1068 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1509.4793 was a little bit unfortunate than I am. 1512.0486 1069 DCA_int_01 1511.9915 Uh-huh. 1512.9008 1070 DCA_int_01 1516.3839 What about your job here? What do you do in a day's work? 1519.5349 1071 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1519.7121 U- Uh- I'm property and supply clerk. 1521.7218 1072 DCA_int_01 1522.1881 Hm. 1522.5658 1073 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1522.8362 And i- i- in a day's work, see, I issue supplies for all the local board. 1527.8524 1074 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1527.8524 (pause 0.51) 1528.3606 1075 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1528.3606 [After-] 1528.7850 1076 DCA_int_01 1528.4166 [Oh.] 1528.7710 1077 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1528.9295 After I issue supplies, 1530.4811 1078 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1530.4811 (pause 1.59) 1532.0711 1079 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1532.0711 I- I have to put it on record. 1533.5633 1080 DCA_int_01 1534.0762 Mm-hm. 1534.6311 1081 DCA_int_01 1534.6311 (pause 1.09) 1535.7210 1082 DCA_int_01 1535.7210 How do you issue? Do you- 1536.7422 1083 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1537.7447 By reposition. 1538.9338 1084 DCA_int_01 1539.4840 Mm-hm. 1539.9503 1085 DCA_int_01 1539.9503 (pause 0.51) 1540.4632 1086 DCA_int_01 1540.4632 You don't have to carry it or put it on a truck. 1542.6396 1087 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1543.0127 Uh- Uh, [no. See], all our local boards is right here in one [building.] 1546.2580 1088 DCA_int_01 1543.6095 [/inaudible/] 1544.0059 1089 DCA_int_01 1544.0059 (pause 1.83) 1545.8337 1090 DCA_int_01 1545.8337 [Right /inaudible/.] 1546.7773 1091 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1547.2979 Now, if I w- 1548.1652 1092 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1548.1652 (pause 0.26) 1548.4205 1093 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1548.4205 was property and supply 1549.5629 1094 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1549.5629 (pause 0.45) 1550.0152 1095 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1550.0152 clerk just for 1551.1669 1096 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1551.1669 (pause 0.26) 1551.4234 1097 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1551.4234 the state of Maryland, 1552.4166 1098 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1552.4166 (pause 0.36) 1552.7756 1099 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1552.7756 see, 1553.2885 1100 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1553.2885 (pause 0.76) 1554.0521 1101 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1554.0521 I- I would have to mail it out to the various local board. 1556.6260 1102 DCA_int_01 1558.2674 What kind of supplies mostly? Office? 1560.2853 1103 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1560.9054 Uh- Uh- Well, pencils, paper, 1563.6146 1104 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1563.6146 (pause 1.18) 1564.7896 1105 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1564.7896 a thousand and fifty different phones that you use 1567.7587 1106 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1567.7587 (pause 0.28) 1568.0385 1107 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1568.0385 for local board, they have to be issued. 1569.7591 1108 DCA_int_01 1570.1321 Mm-hm. 1570.6591 1109 DCA_int_01 1570.6591 (pause 0.40) 1571.0601 1110 DCA_int_01 1571.0601 There's that many. 1571.8232 1111 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1572.1640 Oh, yes. We have eleven hundred and seven different phones 1575.3954 1112 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1575.3954 (pause 0.33) 1575.7218 1113 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1575.7218 that we use i- in state headquarters. 1578.0288 1114 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1578.0288 (pause 2.57) 1580.6027 1115 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1580.6027 Don't like it would take that many phones to get a man in [Service, do it?] 1583.8667 1116 DCA_int_01 1582.9110 [] 1584.0568 1117 DCA_int_01 1584.6956 Yeah, well, 1585.4510 1118 DCA_int_01 1585.4510 (pause 0.33) 1585.7820 1119 DCA_int_01 1585.7820 I guess it doesn't su- 1586.5981 1120 DCA_int_01 1586.5981 (pause 0.60) 1587.1996 1121 DCA_int_01 1587.1996 s- 1587.5400 1122 DCA_int_01 1587.5400 (pause 0.63) 1588.1694 1123 DCA_int_01 1588.1694 Um, 1588.5098 1124 DCA_int_01 1588.5098 (pause 1.63) 1590.1360 1125 DCA_int_01 1590.1360 how did- do you celebrate Christmas? 1592.5654 1126 DCA_int_01 1592.5654 (pause 1.65) 1594.2161 1127 DCA_int_01 1594.2161 How did you? 1595.2746 1128 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1595.5019 Well, 1596.3272 1129 DCA_int_01 1596.3972 /inaudible/ 1597.0406 1130 DCA_int_01 1597.0406 (pause 1.15) 1598.1924 1131 DCA_int_01 1598.1924 /Or Thanksgiving./ 1599.1763 1132 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1599.0270 It's a great diff- At Christmas 1600.7943 1133 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1601.2559 ever to my mother pass ei- eight years ago, 1603.9499 1134 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1603.9499 (pause 0.37) 1604.3183 1135 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1604.3183 I would always go to North Carolina 1606.0389 1136 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1606.0389 (pause 0.29) 1606.3326 1137 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1606.3326 to spend Christmas with my mother. 1607.8388 1138 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1607.8388 (pause 1.29) 1609.1292 1139 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1609.1292 But now, my wife and I, 1610.6307 1140 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1610.6307 (pause 0.34) 1610.9711 1141 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1610.9711 our stepson is growing up now, you know. 1613.2979 1142 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1613.2979 (pause 0.28) 1613.5776 1143 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1613.5776 When you get twenty years old, you know, it's no more fun. It always gone. 1617.1252 1144 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1617.1252 (pause 0.49) 1617.6146 1145 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1617.6146 We just celebrate a quiet Christmas at home mostly now. 1620.6117 1146 DCA_int_01 1620.6070 Mm-hm. 1621.2551 1147 DCA_int_01 1622.4861 When you used to go 1623.3208 1148 DCA_int_01 1623.3208 (pause 0.29) 1623.6099 1149 DCA_int_01 1623.6099 to North Carolina, 1624.8269 1150 DCA_int_01 1624.8269 (pause 0.85) 1625.6756 1151 DCA_int_01 1625.6756 uh, 1625.9647 1152 DCA_int_01 1625.9647 (pause 0.88) 1626.8495 1153 DCA_int_01 1626.8495 what did you do to celebrate Christmas? Did you have decorations? 1630.3886 1154 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1630.4166 Well, 1631.0647 1155 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1631.0647 (pause 0.54) 1631.6045 1156 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1631.6045 in North Carolina, we had beautiful decoration. 1634.5887 1157 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1634.5887 (pause 0.68) 1635.2648 1158 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1635.2648 Holly, Cedar and everything. 1637.2046 1159 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1637.2046 (pause 0.67) 1637.8714 1160 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1637.8714 And w- 1638.5930 1161 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1638.5930 (pause 0.71) 1639.3064 1162 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1639.3064 you know, 1639.8193 1163 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1639.8193 (pause 0.35) 1640.1644 1164 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1640.1644 the mother, 1640.9058 1165 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1640.9058 (pause 0.19) 1641.0970 1166 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1641.0970 when she get old, she just enjoyed 1643.2419 1167 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1643.2419 (pause 0.35) 1643.5916 1168 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1643.5916 seeing us decorate for Christmas, and you know in N- 1646.4908 1169 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1646.4908 (pause 0.31) 1646.7986 1170 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1646.7986 in- in the country, that's when we had that big dinner on Christmas day, and the whole family 1652.8965 1171 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1652.8965 (pause 0.79) 1653.6892 1172 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1653.6892 come in and join. 1654.7243 1173 DCA_int_01 1655.4972 What did you have to eat? 1656.7376 1174 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1656.8028 Well, chicken, turkey, 1658.8359 1175 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1658.8359 (pause 0.54) 1659.3721 1176 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1659.3721 you know down there we have hogs and cows, beef. 1662.9847 1177 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1662.9847 (pause 2.41) 1665.3907 1178 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1665.3907 And most people around there, all they would kill a hog for Christmas 1668.9940 1179 DCA_int_01 1669.2458 Mm-hm. 1669.8333 1180 DCA_int_01 1669.8333 (pause 1.26) 1671.0970 1181 DCA_int_01 1671.0970 A real big feast. 1672.1648 1182 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1672.0902 Oh yes. 1672.9575 1183 DCA_int_01 1673.4832 How many people would be there? 1674.8821 1184 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1675.8427 Uh, well, it was six of us in our family. 1678.7943 1185 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1678.7943 (pause 0.44) 1679.2373 1186 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1679.2373 When some of 'em got married, see, 1681.2645 1187 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1681.2645 (pause 0.37) 1681.6375 1188 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1681.6375 it was there husband and- and wives and some had children, and their children. 1686.7515 1189 DCA_int_01 1686.9101 Mm. 1687.2738 1190 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1687.8940 And so you know, it was quite a few [people.] 1689.9270 1191 DCA_int_01 1689.5539 [] 1690.5145 1192 DCA_int_01 1690.7476 I guess there really was. 1691.9600 1193 DCA_int_01 1691.9600 (pause 1.21) 1693.1712 1194 DCA_int_01 1693.1712 Do your remember the best Christmas present you ever got? 1695.5400 1195 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1697.3818 Well the best Christmas present I ever got- 1699.3810 1196 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1699.3810 (pause 0.68) 1700.0572 1197 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1700.0572 When I was 1700.7519 1198 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1700.7519 (pause 0.53) 1701.2835 1199 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1701.2835 twenty one years old 1702.6451 1200 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1702.6451 (pause 0.66) 1703.3025 1201 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1703.3025 my father bought me a nineteen thirty Ford. 1706.0117 1202 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1706.0117 (pause 0.24) 1706.2483 1203 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1706.2483 I think that's the happiest Christmas I ever witnessed. 1709.2221 1204 DCA_int_01 1709.2221 Oh yeah? 1709.8842 1205 DCA_int_01 1709.8842 (pause 0.69) 1710.5744 1206 DCA_int_01 1710.5744 Uh, 1710.7888 1207 DCA_int_01 1710.7888 (pause 0.96) 1711.7447 1208 DCA_int_01 1711.7447 what was it? What did it look like? 1713.2322 1209 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1713.3768 It was a nineteen thirty Ford. 1715.1019 1210 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1715.1019 (pause 0.38) 1715.4797 1211 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1715.4797 Oh, i- it kind of looked like a buggy. 1717.1852 1212 DCA_int_01 1717.6095 Uh-huh. 1718.0245 1213 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1718.0292 Uh-huh. 1718.6074 1214 DCA_int_01 1719.5166 How long did you keep it? 1720.6451 1215 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1721.7921 oh, I- I- I kept it until I went to the Army. 1724.7519 1216 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1724.7519 (pause 0.28) 1725.0317 1217 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1725.0317 Nineteen forty two. 1726.2415 1218 DCA_int_01 1726.9575 No kidding. 1727.5077 1219 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1728.0055 Mm-hm, I [kept]- 1729.2038 1220 DCA_int_01 1728.9567 [They really] built 'em in those days. ?? 1731.0737 1221 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1731.5726 I- it was almost four years. 1733.4890 1222 DCA_int_01 1733.6697 Mm-hm. 1734.0270 1223 DCA_int_01 1734.0270 (pause 0.96) 1734.9910 1224 DCA_int_01 1734.9910 /Okay./ 1735.5051 1225 DCA_int_01 1735.5051 (pause 1.14) 1736.6496 1226 DCA_int_01 1736.6496 What did you do in the Army? 1737.8518 1227 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1738.5285 Uh- uh- 1739.2921 1228 DCA_int_01 1739.3110 What branch were you in? 1740.4073 1229 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1740.7135 Uh- I was in quartermaster. 1742.4704 1230 DCA_int_01 1744.3719 What did you have to do? 1745.4455 1231 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1745.6648 Huh, uh- Well, 1746.6061 1232 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1746.6061 (pause 0.38) 1746.9907 1233 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1746.9907 I- I- I worked in the /PS/. 1749.1266 1234 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1749.1266 (pause 0.81) 1749.9356 1235 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1749.9356 Special Service. 1750.9865 1236 DCA_int_01 1753.2046 Hm. 1753.4995 1237 DCA_int_01 1753.4995 (pause 0.78) 1754.2782 1238 DCA_int_01 1754.2782 Interesting. 1754.9322 1239 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1755.9945 And I spent four years and eighteen days 1758.4659 1240 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1758.4659 (pause 0.30) 1758.7683 1241 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1758.7683 in the Service. 1759.6113 1242 DCA_int_01 1761.3040 That was during the war? 1762.6649 1243 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1762.6838 That was during World War II when things was pretty hot. 1765.1524 1244 DCA_int_01 1766.1721 Did you go overseas? 1767.1550 1245 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1767.1815 No, spent four years and eighteen days in the United States. 1769.9940 1246 DCA_int_01 1771.5997 You were lucky in a way. 1772.6128 1247 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1772.6091 That was really luck. 1773.6071 1248 DCA_int_01 1774.3140 Mm. 1774.5673 1249 DCA_int_01 1774.5673 (pause 3.44) 1778.0102 1250 DCA_int_01 1778.0102 Were you ever in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you might die? 1781.8917 1251 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1782.1827 When I was in the Service? 1783.2639 1252 DCA_int_01 1783.4945 Either in the Service or somewhere else. 1785.3280 1253 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1785.3695 No. 1785.8950 1254 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1785.8950 (pause 0.62) 1786.5140 1255 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1786.5140 In the Service, I- I- I have never been in that situation. 1788.9561 1256 DCA_int_01 1789.9012 You never were in any danger or 1791.4275 1257 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1792.0475 [No.] 1792.6826 1258 DCA_int_01 1792.2441 [/kind of/ serious?] 1792.9170 1259 DCA_int_01 1795.3846 Sometimes people say that /what's evers/ gonna happen, it's gonna happen. 1798.7151 1260 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1798.8587 Well, that's the way I feel. 1800.3283 1261 DCA_int_01 1800.3434 Do you agree with that? 1801.0882 1262 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1801.0730 Yes. 1801.7989 1263 DCA_int_01 1802.5020 You don't think there's any point in trying to 1804.6606 1264 DCA_int_01 1804.6606 (pause 1.43) 1806.0886 1265 DCA_int_01 1806.0886 uh, 1806.4817 1266 DCA_int_01 1806.4817 (pause 0.44) 1806.9240 1267 DCA_int_01 1806.9240 change the future? 1808.1829 1268 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1808.7613 No, I really don't. 1809.8689 1269 DCA_int_01 1810.6770 Hm. 1810.9794 1270 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1810.9907 Because I- 1811.7317 1271 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1811.7317 (pause 0.73) 1812.4613 1272 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1812.4613 We don't know about it, but I think your future's already mapped out. 1815.7001 1273 DCA_int_01 1815.8891 Mm-hm. 1816.5317 1274 DCA_int_01 1816.5317 (pause 0.72) 1817.2538 1275 DCA_int_01 1817.2538 Is this 1817.5827 1276 DCA_int_01 1817.5827 (pause 0.44) 1818.0212 1277 DCA_int_01 1818.0212 part of your religious faith? 1819.4577 1278 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1819.5182 Oh, no. 1820.3263 1279 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1820.3263 (pause 0.46) 1820.7912 1280 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1820.7912 No. 1821.2789 1281 DCA_int_01 1821.6380 It's just something you- 1822.5491 1282 DCA_se3_ag3_m_04 1822.5415 Y- Believe, that's right. 1824.1519