Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCA_int_01 0.5226 Alright, first of all we're gonna 1.9538 2 DCA_int_01 1.9538 (pause 1.45) 3.4027 3 DCA_int_01 3.4027 take you back to your childhood. 5.0078 4 DCA_int_01 5.0078 (pause 1.20) 6.2049 5 DCA_int_01 6.2049 Hm? 6.4211 6 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 6.5951 Name. (whispered) 7.0772 7 DCA_int_01 9.2567 Yeah, why don't you just say your name /on the tape/. 11.2797 8 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 11.3194 Ah, 11.8554 9 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 11.8554 (pause 0.60) 12.4591 10 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 12.4591 /RD-NAME-3/ 13.2540 11 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 13.2540 (pause 0.50) 13.7520 12 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 13.7520 /RD-NAME-2/ 15.1644 13 DCA_int_01 15.6675 Good. 15.9794 14 DCA_int_01 15.9794 (pause 2.56) 18.5350 15 DCA_int_01 18.5350 Okay, 19.1941 16 DCA_int_01 19.1941 (pause 2.05) 21.2423 17 DCA_int_01 21.2423 what kind of games 22.2651 18 DCA_int_01 22.2651 (pause 0.22) 22.4823 19 DCA_int_01 22.4823 were there that you used to play as a child? 24.4762 20 DCA_int_01 24.4762 (pause 1.03) 25.5053 21 DCA_int_01 25.5053 In the neighborhood with the other kids? 27.1932 22 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 27.2890 Mm-hm. 27.5927 23 DCA_int_01 29.8013 In general. 30.2962 24 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 32.4043 Well, 33.0229 25 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 33.0229 (pause 0.78) 33.8002 26 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 33.8002 uh, 34.3942 27 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 34.3942 (pause 0.20) 34.5937 28 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 34.5937 they were mostly um 35.8595 29 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 35.8595 (pause 1.28) 37.1389 30 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 37.1389 type of running games. 38.4920 31 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 38.4920 (pause 1.13) 39.6257 32 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 39.6257 Uh, 40.0761 33 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 40.0761 (pause 0.76) 40.8346 34 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 40.8346 which, uh, 41.6392 35 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 41.6392 (pause 0.66) 42.3035 36 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 42.3035 like, uh, one called, uh 44.1374 37 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 44.1374 (pause 0.25) 44.3870 38 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 44.3870 I Spy, 45.4127 39 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 45.4127 (pause 1.67) 47.0846 40 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 47.0846 tag. 47.7707 41 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 47.7707 (pause 3.52) 51.2908 42 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 51.2908 That's when we were small. 52.2664 43 DCA_int_01 52.3751 Mm-hm. 52.7433 44 DCA_int_01 52.7433 (pause 0.17) 52.9092 45 DCA_int_01 52.9092 That's what I mean. 53.6046 46 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 53.8463 Yes, uh 54.7912 47 DCA_int_01 57.9415 How did you play I Spy? I don't think we played that. 60.4841 48 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 60.7605 Well, 61.1320 49 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 61.1320 (pause 0.55) 61.6771 50 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 61.6771 well, I tell you, 62.3324 51 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 62.3324 (pause 0.37) 62.6992 52 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 62.6992 uh, I understand that the correct pronunciation for it is I Spy 66.5021 53 DCA_int_01 66.8064 Oh yeah? 67.3784 54 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 67.3784 but uh we always called it, I think 69.7175 55 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 70.6020 High Spy, 71.5493 56 DCA_int_01 71.8229 Oh, I see. 72.6365 57 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 72.7049 I think. 73.1916 58 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 73.1916 (pause 0.46) 73.6532 59 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 73.6532 You'd 73.9575 60 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 73.9575 (pause 0.41) 74.3650 61 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 74.3650 run 74.8822 62 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 74.8822 (pause 0.83) 75.7152 63 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 75.7152 around a uh, 76.8583 64 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 76.8583 (pause 2.08) 78.9340 65 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 78.9340 well uh, 79.3378 66 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 79.3378 (pause 0.24) 79.5802 67 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 79.5802 one of the kids would put his head against the tree or against the wall. 82.6826 68 DCA_int_01 82.6866 Mm-hm. 83.1500 69 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 83.4448 And you run and hide, 84.6466 70 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 84.6466 (pause 0.54) 85.1844 71 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 85.1844 and he'd have to come to find you. 86.4094 72 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 86.4094 (pause 0.75) 87.1562 73 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 87.1562 Then you have to 87.8912 74 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 87.8912 (pause 1.40) 89.2878 75 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 89.2878 beat him back 90.3735 76 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 90.3735 (pause 0.70) 91.0713 77 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 91.0713 to the place where he left, 92.4948 78 DCA_int_01 92.5025 Mm-hm. 92.9965 79 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 92.9940 you see. 93.4092 80 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 93.8301 Now, if he beats you back, 95.0264 81 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 95.0264 (pause 1.00) 96.0247 82 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 96.0247 after he sees where you are hiding, 97.6788 83 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 97.6788 (pause 0.91) 98.5841 84 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 98.5841 now 99.0435 85 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 99.0435 (pause 0.30) 99.3474 86 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 99.3474 that is a sort of a 100.5735 87 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 100.5735 (pause 0.19) 100.7597 88 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 100.7597 mark against you. 101.8213 89 DCA_int_01 102.2736 Uh-hm. 102.8564 90 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 102.9532 And of course 103.8237 91 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 103.8237 (pause 0.94) 104.7679 92 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 104.7679 you take the 105.8067 93 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 105.8067 (pause 0.78) 106.5854 94 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 106.5854 losing ma- man's uh, the losing 108.8504 95 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 108.8504 (pause 0.73) 109.5778 96 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 109.5778 child's place 110.5104 97 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 110.5104 (pause 1.01) 111.5176 98 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 111.5176 on the 112.3756 99 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 112.3756 (pause 2.48) 114.8562 100 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 114.8562 next uh, you might call it, inning, of the game you see, 117.5980 101 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 117.5980 (pause 0.76) 118.3627 102 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 118.3627 if he gets back before you get back 120.1340 103 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 120.1340 (pause 0.50) 120.6374 104 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 120.6374 to this place where he left. 121.4355 105 DCA_int_01 123.0033 Was there a name for the place where he stood? 125.0137 106 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 125.0220 No, any place beside a tr- well uh 126.9233 107 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 126.9233 (pause 0.21) 127.1350 108 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 127.1350 eyes up to a tree or 128.7748 109 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 128.7748 (pause 0.35) 129.1200 110 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 129.1200 against a brick wall, 130.1703 111 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 130.1703 (pause 0.21) 130.3820 112 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 130.3820 just so he couldn't see 131.7738 113 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 131.7738 (pause 0.50) 132.2720 114 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 132.2720 where the other kids are running to hide. 134.5065 115 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 134.5065 (pause 0.21) 134.7130 116 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 134.7130 It might be behind a 135.9512 117 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 135.9512 (pause 0.33) 136.2792 118 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 136.2792 tree or 137.0430 119 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 137.0430 (pause 0.43) 137.4753 120 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 137.4753 in those days were /penny/ wagons around, you know. 139.9662 121 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 139.9662 (pause 0.49) 140.4602 122 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 140.4602 And you could hide behind a wagon or, 142.0092 123 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 142.0092 (pause 0.37) 142.3745 124 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 142.3745 and uh also there were quite a few vacant lots at that time. 145.2567 125 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 145.2567 (pause 1.28) 146.5353 126 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 146.5353 And uh 147.0673 127 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 147.0673 (pause 0.22) 147.2914 128 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 147.2914 of course you could uh 148.4834 129 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 148.4834 (pause 0.94) 149.4258 130 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 149.4258 hide on the vacant- in the- on the vacant lots behind trees and what not. 152.9135 131 DCA_int_01 153.1554 Mm-hm. 153.7438 132 DCA_int_01 153.7438 (pause 1.00) 154.7412 133 DCA_int_01 154.7412 You didn't call it home or anything? 156.4313 134 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 156.5506 No, we didn't call it home. 157.9209 135 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 157.9209 (pause 1.47) 159.3915 136 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 159.3915 In fact I've never heard of the word- a game called home. 162.6117 137 DCA_int_01 163.6680 Mm. 163.9360 138 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 163.9918 Uh. 164.2284 139 DCA_int_01 165.2127 How did you pick the guy to be 'it' the first time? 167.4019 140 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 172.1284 Well, let's see now. 173.7006 141 DCA_int_01 175.4618 Sometimes kids tell us their rhymes and- 177.6356 142 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 177.8504 Yes, well I don't recall how we exactly t- pick the person who was it. 181.7062 143 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 181.7062 (pause 0.28) 181.9896 144 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 181.9896 We just started off playing. 183.4754 145 DCA_int_01 183.7535 184.2158 146 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 184.4194 185.2395 147 DCA_int_01 185.9055 What if [everybody wanted] to hide? 187.5560 148 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 186.0975 [Uh] 186.8460 149 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 187.8036 uh, well, it's hard to say just- I just don't recall how 190.7071 150 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 190.7071 (pause 0.15) 190.8586 151 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 190.8586 we decided 191.7970 152 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 191.7970 (pause 0.75) 192.5460 153 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 192.5460 (pause 0.006) 192.5515 154 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 192.5515 uh how the pers- to pick the person who was 195.3908 155 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 195.3908 (pause 0.57) 195.9632 156 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 195.9632 it. 196.3595 157 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 196.3595 (pause 1.35) 197.7060 158 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 197.7060 /Cause/ that's- that was the person who had to 199.5168 159 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 199.5168 (pause 0.78) 200.2929 160 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 200.2929 hide his face 201.3216 161 DCA_int_01 201.2912 Uh-huh. 201.6018 162 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 202.4040 while the others 203.2980 163 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 203.2980 (pause 0.76) 204.0602 164 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 204.0602 ran to hide. 204.9739 165 DCA_int_01 206.2008 Say one potato, two potato, or [anything?] 208.6289 166 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 208.5342 [No,] 209.0373 167 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 209.6482 no. 210.0638 168 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 210.0638 (pause 0.43) 210.4954 169 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 210.4954 Maybe that was the version of the same game 212.7025 170 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 212.7025 (pause 0.53) 213.2277 171 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 213.2277 in other parts of the 214.3474 172 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 214.3474 (pause 1.52) 215.8687 173 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 215.8687 um, other parts of the city or maybe other parts of the States, 219.6071 174 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 219.6071 (pause 0.55) 220.1522 175 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 220.1522 but, uh, no, we [didn't] uh play that one. No. 222.5681 176 DCA_int_01 221.1785 /unintelligible/ 221.5702 177 DCA_int_01 223.3184 How did you play tag when you were a kid? 225.2442 178 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 226.3866 Well, 226.9648 179 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 226.9648 (pause 1.70) 228.6653 180 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 228.6653 you stand a certain place- it's almost like the same /even when/ you didn't hide. 232.0771 181 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 232.0771 (pause 0.61) 232.6879 182 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 232.6879 Well, the 233.1029 183 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 233.1029 (pause 0.65) 233.7511 184 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 233.7511 uh, 234.2080 185 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 234.2080 (pause 0.42) 234.6277 186 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 234.6277 the one who was it, 235.8438 187 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 235.8438 (pause 1.56) 237.4037 188 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 237.4037 uh 238.1498 189 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 238.1498 (pause 0.35) 238.4948 190 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 238.4948 would have to 239.1896 191 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 239.1896 (pause 0.41) 239.5953 192 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 239.5953 catch 239.9614 193 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 239.9614 (pause 0.20) 240.1569 194 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 240.1569 one of the- 240.5772 195 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 240.5772 (pause 0.49) 241.0641 196 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 241.0641 one of the other kids, you know? And the one that he 242.8891 197 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 242.8891 (pause 0.66) 243.5465 198 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 243.5465 tags, 244.2413 199 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 244.2413 (pause 0.67) 244.9081 200 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 244.9081 that's the one who was 245.8392 201 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 245.8392 (pause 0.19) 246.0304 202 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 246.0304 'it'. 246.3941 203 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 246.3941 (pause 0.95) 247.3407 204 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 247.3407 And uh, 248.0541 205 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 248.0541 (pause 0.24) 248.2919 206 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 248.2919 and from then on that's the way they played the game. 250.1696 207 DCA_int_01 253.8495 What uh 254.5303 208 DCA_int_01 254.5303 (pause 0.51) 255.0432 209 DCA_int_01 255.0432 TV programs do you watch? 256.8407 210 DCA_int_01 256.8407 (pause 2.02) 258.8630 211 DCA_int_01 258.8630 Do you watch TV? 259.9821 212 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 262.1806 Yes. 262.9081 213 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 262.9081 (pause 1.18) 264.0924 214 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 264.0924 I suppose the uh, 265.4492 215 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 265.4492 (pause 1.42) 266.8667 216 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 266.8667 my most regular one at this time 269.3380 217 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 269.3380 (pause 1.97) 271.3058 218 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 271.3058 uh, 272.0985 219 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 272.0985 (pause 0.82) 272.9191 220 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 272.9191 the one I, uh, is the uh, 274.8226 221 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 274.8226 (pause 0.21) 275.0279 222 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 275.0279 I- I prefer 276.0102 223 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 276.0102 (pause 0.40) 276.4110 224 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 276.4110 uh the um 277.1490 225 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 277.1490 (pause 0.31) 277.4618 226 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 277.4618 Meet the Press. 278.3953 227 DCA_int_01 278.9109 Oh yeah? 279.6290 228 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 279.6197 Uh yes, that's one I prefer. Uh, that's my- they only come on- it's only on once a week, 283.5693 229 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 283.7502 of course. But I prefer to see that if I can catch it. 286.4776 230 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 286.4776 (pause 0.51) 286.9917 231 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 286.9917 And also if there is a 288.8009 232 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 288.8009 (pause 1.43) 290.2313 233 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 290.2313 worthwhile witness on there- sometimes the uh 292.7679 234 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 292.7679 (pause 0.37) 293.1409 235 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 293.1409 you- is uh, uh 294.6890 236 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 294.6890 (pause 0.51) 295.2019 237 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 295.2019 person on uh 296.1041 238 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 296.1041 (pause 0.48) 296.5891 239 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 296.5891 uh 297.2792 240 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 297.2792 (pause 2.12) 299.3962 241 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 299.3962 on uh 300.2075 242 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 300.2075 (pause 0.24) 300.4476 243 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 300.4476 Meet the Press to me isn't worth seeing. 302.7418 244 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 302.7418 (pause 0.57) 303.3153 245 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 303.3153 So at that case I would uh, 305.1682 246 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 305.1682 (pause 0.69) 305.8585 247 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 305.8585 wouldn't wanna bother with him. 306.9278 248 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 306.9278 (pause 0.14) 307.0727 249 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 307.0727 Now you k- take a man like Secretary 308.9274 250 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 308.9274 (pause 0.47) 309.3930 251 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 309.3930 Rusk, 309.9647 252 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 309.9647 (pause 0.93) 310.8903 253 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 310.8903 I like him on TV. 312.1411 254 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 312.1411 (pause 0.69) 312.8312 255 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 312.8312 I mean, uh, there are some people that on- on the 316.0689 256 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 316.0689 (pause 0.16) 316.2331 257 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 316.2331 Meet the Press, to me 317.4647 258 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 317.4647 (pause 0.63) 318.0942 259 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 318.0942 give straight forward answers 319.9174 260 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 319.9174 (pause 0.22) 320.1412 261 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 320.1412 to the questions that you ask them. 321.7359 262 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 321.7359 (pause 0.99) 322.7230 263 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 322.7230 Secretary Rusk, 323.9867 264 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 323.9867 (pause 0.63) 324.6189 265 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 324.6189 Hubert Humphrey, 325.5421 266 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 325.5421 (pause 0.95) 326.4934 267 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 326.4934 uh 327.0436 268 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 327.0436 (pause 3.66) 330.6993 269 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 330.6993 I would like uh- 332.1541 270 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 332.1541 (pause 0.54) 332.6973 271 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 332.6973 uh there's another person on there too, in politics. Uh, 335.8868 272 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 335.8868 (pause 7.17) 343.0571 273 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 343.0571 I don't mind 343.8654 274 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 343.8654 (pause 0.27) 344.1359 275 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 344.1359 hearing /Er-/ 345.0632 276 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 345.0632 (pause 0.55) 345.6124 277 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 345.6124 Dick Nixon. 346.4051 278 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 346.4051 (pause 2.29) 348.6992 279 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 348.6992 Uh, he is not my 349.6160 280 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 349.6160 (pause 0.16) 349.7802 281 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 349.7802 favorite one, but I like to hear him talk sometimes. Uh, uh, I like to hear, he has a 353.6779 282 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 353.6779 (pause 1.09) 354.7726 283 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 354.7726 debatable way of talking, but uh he's not one of my favorite uh 357.6893 284 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 357.6893 (pause 0.94) 358.6312 285 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 358.6312 persons appear on- on uh, Meet the Press. 360.9813 286 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 360.9813 (pause 0.96) 361.9418 287 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 361.9418 And there's- there are several others who have been on there from time to time that I like, too. 365.9892 288 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 365.9892 (pause 2.72) 368.7053 289 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 368.7053 And of course I like the uh- 370.9529 290 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 370.9529 (pause 0.51) 371.4658 291 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 371.4658 get ideas on Meet the Press from those uh- 374.0980 292 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 374.0980 (pause 2.09) 376.1889 293 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 376.1889 from the persons from foreign countries. They're quite interesting 379.2505 294 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 379.2505 (pause 0.76) 380.0152 295 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 380.0152 on uh, on Meet the Press. 381.3954 296 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 381.3954 (pause 0.55) 381.9405 297 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 381.9405 Then uh, 382.8715 298 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 382.8715 (pause 1.11) 383.9782 299 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 383.9782 for the lighter side, 385.1271 300 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 385.1271 (pause 0.40) 385.5248 301 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 385.5248 I like the 386.4150 302 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 386.4150 (pause 0.85) 387.2641 303 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 387.2641 Beverly Hillbillies. 388.3027 304 DCA_int_01 388.4244 Oh yeah. (laughing) 389.3239 305 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 389.5547 I- that's I guess it's because uh there's something about uh 392.9924 306 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 392.9924 (pause 0.87) 393.8592 307 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 393.8592 the one who plays the part of- 394.9547 308 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 394.9547 (pause 0.41) 395.3643 309 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 395.3643 of Granny on there. 396.6527 310 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 396.6527 (pause 0.47) 397.1217 311 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 397.1217 I think she's a wonderful person, but e-e- everybody on 399.8232 312 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 399.8232 (pause 0.55) 400.3753 313 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 400.3753 the Hill- uh Beverly Hillbillies to me 402.6466 314 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 402.6466 (pause 0.99) 403.6381 315 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 403.6381 uh 404.1012 316 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 404.1012 (pause 0.52) 404.6237 317 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 404.6237 is a wonderful actor, 406.0724 318 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 406.0724 (pause 1.07) 407.1411 319 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 407.1411 and I really enjoy that. I see it almost everyday because I'm here 410.5750 320 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 410.5750 (pause 0.16) 410.7344 321 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 410.7344 when it comes on. 411.5410 322 DCA_int_01 411.7438 Is it [on during] the day? 412.9783 323 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 411.9998 [So-] 412.3234 324 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 412.9902 Yes, it's on every day at ten thirty except uh, 415.7355 325 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 415.7355 (pause 3.13) 418.8631 326 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 418.8631 Saturdays I think, and it's on another time on Saturdays I think. 422.2839 327 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 422.2839 (pause 0.94) 423.2219 328 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 423.2219 I think it's on in the afternoon on Saturdays. 425.1100 329 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 425.1100 (pause 0.57) 425.6799 330 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 425.6799 Mm-hm. 426.1371 331 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 426.1371 (pause 0.58) 426.7130 332 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 426.7130 But I- I usually see it on- in the mornings, at ten thirty in the mornings. 429.3086 333 DCA_int_01 430.5236 Do you remember a time when you saw that was good that you could tell us about? 434.0147 334 DCA_int_01 434.0147 (pause 1.02) 435.0346 335 DCA_int_01 435.0346 Sort of a story or an episode on 437.2789 336 DCA_int_01 437.2789 (pause 0.66) 437.9439 337 DCA_int_01 437.9439 Beverly Hillbillies. What they did, 440.2831 338 DCA_int_01 440.2831 (pause 0.62) 440.9006 339 DCA_int_01 440.9006 how they clowned around and? 442.6342 340 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 449.4248 Let's see now. I don't re- uh, 451.4315 341 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 451.4315 (pause 0.61) 452.0371 342 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 452.0371 I mean, I couldn't give the full story of it. 453.9056 343 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 453.9056 (pause 0.10) 454.0022 344 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 454.0022 Uh, 454.4127 345 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 454.4127 (pause 0.11) 454.5189 346 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 454.5189 I could if I sat out and studied it. If I- for instance- for instance, if I'd- I'd known you wanted to ask that question 459.1007 347 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 459.1007 (pause 0.42) 459.5209 348 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 459.5209 I would have probably had the ch- 460.3903 349 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 460.3903 (pause 0.14) 460.5303 350 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 460.5303 I would have a chance to um 461.9551 351 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 461.9551 (pause 0.41) 462.3681 352 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 462.3681 study that, you see, or if I woulda 464.0254 353 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 464.0254 (pause 0.15) 464.1799 354 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 464.1799 observed the one this morning. But I didn't get a chance to do the one this morning because I was 467.4690 355 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 467.4690 (pause 0.38) 467.8511 356 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 467.8511 busy in the- 468.5517 357 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 468.5517 (pause 0.53) 469.0861 358 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 469.0861 raking leaves in the backyard. Trying to catch up on some of the spring cleaning on the outside. 473.6506 359 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 473.6506 (pause 0.87) 474.5174 360 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 474.5174 But uh, I don't recall any spe- uh 477.3079 361 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 477.3079 (pause 0.45) 477.7591 362 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 477.7591 special ones which I could tell the whole story. 479.5829 363 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 479.5829 (pause 0.35) 479.9361 364 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 479.9361 I just enjoy their 480.9930 365 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 480.9930 (pause 0.19) 481.1874 366 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 481.1874 acting on the television, 482.3526 367 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 482.3526 (pause 0.46) 482.8097 368 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 482.8097 and I'm- 483.3382 369 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 483.3382 (pause 0.29) 483.6331 370 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 483.6331 and I haven't seen 484.8325 371 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 484.8325 (pause 0.27) 485.1056 372 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 485.1056 one yet in which there was a dull moment. 487.1005 373 DCA_int_01 487.2548 [] Yeah. 489.5275 374 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 487.3841 [] 488.7200 375 DCA_int_01 492.1741 You don't remember any of the 493.4206 376 DCA_int_01 493.4206 (pause 0.85) 494.2699 377 DCA_int_01 494.2699 plots, or anything like that, do you? 496.2398 378 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 508.4360 Yes, 509.1847 379 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 509.1847 (pause 0.33) 509.5179 380 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 509.5179 there was one uh 510.6529 381 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 510.6529 (pause 0.55) 511.2033 382 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 511.2033 plot in which 512.2601 383 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 512.2601 (pause 0.51) 512.7707 384 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 512.7707 Granny went to the races. 514.4883 385 DCA_int_01 514.6420 515.0576 386 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 515.6869 I don't remember- remember all the details, 517.6818 387 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 517.6818 (pause 0.61) 518.2874 388 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 518.2874 but I do recall 519.4125 389 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 519.4125 (pause 0.20) 519.6105 390 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 519.6105 that was the- one of the funniest that 521.8260 391 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 521.8260 (pause 1.10) 522.9306 392 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 522.9306 I have seen 523.8924 393 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 523.8924 (pause 0.32) 524.2130 394 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 524.2130 on there. 524.8186 395 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 524.8186 (pause 1.26) 526.0773 396 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 526.0773 526.5763 397 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 526.5763 (pause 0.39) 526.9664 398 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 526.9664 The day Granny went to the races. 532.1283 399 DCA_int_01 532.4226 /That was a good one/? 533.3145 400 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 533.3509 N- 533.9740 401 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 533.9740 (pause 0.16) 534.1334 402 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 534.1334 [yes.] 534.6260 403 DCA_int_01 534.3618 [What] did she do? 535.2291 404 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 537.0274 Well, I don't remember the exact details, I just recall that it was uh, 540.5712 405 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 540.5712 (pause 0.33) 540.8976 406 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 540.8976 uh, I do recall that 542.2709 407 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 542.2709 (pause 1.26) 543.5298 408 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 543.5298 she bet on a horse 544.8261 409 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 544.8261 (pause 1.87) 546.6936 410 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 546.6936 that was supposed to have 547.8966 411 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 547.8966 (pause 0.75) 548.6427 412 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 548.6427 lost the race, 549.7338 413 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 549.7338 (pause 1.17) 550.9019 414 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 550.9019 but it turned out that the horse won the race. 553.1494 415 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 553.1494 (pause 1.24) 554.3897 416 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 554.3897 And uh, 555.2850 417 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 555.2850 (pause 2.34) 557.6292 418 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 557.6292 well I don't recall the rest of it, but it was really funny. 559.7679 419 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 559.7679 (pause 0.36) 560.1301 420 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 560.1301 [] 561.4197 421 DCA_int_01 561.0719 [Yeah, that] sounds like a [/good- a really good./] 563.5189 422 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 562.0282 [Mm-hm.] 562.5161 423 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 562.5161 (pause 0.20) 562.7123 424 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 562.7123 [Mm-hm.] 563.2457 425 DCA_int_01 564.2622 Are there any adventure stories that you watch? Like /these/ detectives and secret agents? 569.4675 426 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 573.6484 This /reminds/ me one at night time. What is it? (whispered) 575.4666 427 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 575.4666 (pause 0.65) 576.1194 428 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 576.1194 Uh (snapping fingers) 576.9568 429 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 576.9568 (pause 4.31) 581.2686 430 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 581.2686 comes on late at night, some detective story. (whispered) 583.4881 431 DCA_int_01 584.2715 I don't even have a television, so I can't [] 586.8081 432 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 586.0993 [No?] We've got four of them here. 588.1053 433 DCA_int_01 591.3031 Well, there's no sense in- 592.4126 434 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 594.7350 Oh, if I turn one on, 596.9505 435 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 596.9505 (pause 0.73) 597.6767 436 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 597.6767 and it- it's a detective story, 599.2674 437 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 599.2674 (pause 1.43) 600.6929 438 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 600.6929 I'll like it, but I- i- if I'm in a mood to hear it- I- I'll 604.3732 439 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 604.3732 (pause 0.18) 604.5519 440 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 604.5519 probably 605.2474 441 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 605.2474 (pause 0.23) 605.4744 442 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 605.4744 well just sit there and look at it, you know. But I don't have 607.6043 443 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 607.6043 (pause 0.31) 607.9165 444 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 607.9165 many which who I prefer, so I just sit down and catch one now. 610.7371 445 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 610.7371 (pause 0.25) 610.9835 446 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 610.9835 For instance, like this afternoon at four thirty, 612.7560 447 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 612.7560 (pause 0.37) 613.1261 448 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 613.1261 I like to catch the um, 614.4592 449 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 614.4592 (pause 1.00) 615.4638 450 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 615.4638 story that comes on four thirty on 617.2667 451 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 617.2667 (pause 0.34) 617.6025 452 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 617.6025 WR- WRC TV uh because 620.0878 453 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 620.0878 (pause 0.43) 620.5168 454 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 620.5168 there's a time when I- 621.4255 455 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 621.4255 (pause 0.87) 622.2981 456 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 622.2981 I worked around the house. I've had my lunch. I've had my afternoon 625.8347 457 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 625.8347 (pause 0.14) 625.9748 458 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 625.9748 nap and I'm ready to 627.2644 459 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 627.2644 (pause 0.29) 627.5590 460 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 627.5590 see a 627.8826 461 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 627.8826 (pause 0.40) 628.2825 462 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 628.2825 TV show before 629.5228 463 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 629.5228 (pause 0.59) 630.1104 464 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 630.1104 dinner, you see. 630.8658 465 DCA_int_01 631.0327 Mm-hm. 631.3571 466 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 631.3571 And it comes right in 632.3357 467 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 633.0072 time for that. 633.9304 468 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 633.9304 (pause 0.50) 634.4340 469 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 634.4340 I don't know wh- I don't know what will be there on this afternoon, but, uh 637.6234 470 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 637.6234 (pause 3.24) 640.8595 471 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 640.8595 I'll p- I won't see it this afternoon, 642.9694 472 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 642.9694 (pause 0.61) 643.5756 473 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 643.5756 but I mean I usually look at it on the four thirty, because I have to- I'll have to take the car to the shop you see. I can't take it 648.9333 474 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 648.9333 (pause 0.32) 649.2505 475 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 649.2505 /let's see/ this afternoon. Some days I can't see it. 650.9455 476 DCA_int_01 653.0307 You go to the movies 654.0432 477 DCA_int_01 654.0432 (pause 0.13) 654.1699 478 DCA_int_01 654.1699 ever? 654.5264 479 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 655.6268 Yes, I go to the movies, 656.5729 480 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 656.5729 (pause 0.24) 656.8084 481 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 656.8084 uh quite a bit. 657.6985 482 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 657.6985 (pause 0.85) 658.5448 483 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 658.5448 Went to see one last night. 659.9292 484 DCA_int_01 660.0901 Really? 660.4072 485 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 661.1737 Yes. 661.7593 486 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 661.7593 (pause 1.14) 662.9031 487 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 662.9031 Well, 663.3275 488 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 663.3275 (pause 0.19) 663.5186 489 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 663.5186 uh 663.9663 490 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 663.9663 (pause 0.38) 664.3510 491 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 664.3510 it was 664.8546 492 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 664.8546 (pause 3.83) 668.6883 493 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 668.6883 ex-, er- uh an exciting movie. 670.7260 494 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 670.7260 (pause 2.73) 673.4574 495 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 673.4574 Uh, 674.0449 496 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 674.0449 (pause 0.69) 674.7350 497 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 674.7350 I go see different types of movies. 676.4132 498 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 676.4132 (pause 0.19) 676.6020 499 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 676.6020 The one last night, of course, I saw was the one about, ah, 679.3848 500 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 679.3848 (pause 0.45) 679.8357 501 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 679.8357 /unintelligible/ (whispered) 681.0238 502 DCA_int_01 681.7547 Oh, yeah? 682.5381 503 DCA_int_01 682.5381 (pause 1.27) 683.8066 504 DCA_int_01 683.8066 Yeah, we'll take that off when we get into /inaudible/. 685.6925 505 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 685.6829 /I-/ 685.8761 506 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 686.9526 And is uh, I went to see an exciting movie last night, 689.3556 507 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 689.3556 (pause 0.34) 689.6913 508 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 689.6913 but it wasn't- it uh 691.1735 509 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 691.1735 (pause 1.14) 692.3089 510 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 692.3089 that was intended for adults only, 694.0808 511 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 694.0808 (pause 0.43) 694.5145 512 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 694.5145 more or less. 695.1253 513 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 695.1253 (pause 0.84) 695.9647 514 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 695.9647 I don't think it was advertised that way, but it sh- if it was not, it should have been advertised that way. 700.1924 515 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 700.1924 (pause 0.26) 700.4536 516 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 700.4536 Yes, uh-huh, I wouldn't take a kid of mine there, but it was a good story. It's- it's a normal story and 705.3202 517 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 705.3202 (pause 0.62) 705.9450 518 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 705.9450 had to do with crime and what not, but it was a good story. 708.9201 519 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 708.9201 (pause 0.43) 709.3491 520 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 709.3491 It wasn't suited for 710.8086 521 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 710.8086 (pause 1.95) 712.7593 522 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 712.7593 children, 713.2708 523 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 713.2708 (pause 0.85) 714.1194 524 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 714.1194 and uh 714.6988 525 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 714.6988 (pause 1.17) 715.8692 526 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 715.8692 so uh, 716.5546 527 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 716.5546 (pause 0.40) 716.9576 528 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 716.9576 but I 717.6617 529 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 717.6617 (pause 1.94) 719.6061 530 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 719.6061 also saw the- 720.7299 531 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 720.7299 (pause 2.49) 723.2231 532 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 723.2231 the picture entitled 724.5959 533 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 724.5959 (pause 0.12) 724.7199 534 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 724.7199 The Guest Who Came For Dinner. 726.2509 535 DCA_int_01 726.8851 Oh yeah? 727.3094 536 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 727.4525 I saw that, too. 728.5716 537 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 728.5716 (pause 0.51) 729.0793 538 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 729.0793 I might go back- go back uh- and it- that particular picture, 732.1662 539 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 732.1662 (pause 0.86) 733.0241 540 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 733.0241 uh, 733.7702 541 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 733.7702 (pause 0.44) 734.2085 542 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 734.2085 I thought it would be a lot of comedy, well it was a lot of comedy in it, 737.0529 543 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 737.0529 (pause 0.46) 737.5098 544 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 737.5098 but there's a lot of serious, 738.4867 545 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 738.4867 (pause 0.23) 738.7152 546 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 738.7152 uh seriousness to it, too. 739.8762 547 DCA_int_01 740.1499 What's it about? 740.7747 548 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 741.8845 Well, it was about uh, 743.5585 549 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 743.5585 (pause 1.27) 744.8322 550 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 744.8322 the uh, 745.6202 551 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 745.6202 (pause 2.44) 748.0599 552 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 748.0599 this white girl 749.3329 553 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 749.3329 (pause 0.52) 749.8551 554 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 749.8551 being en- 750.3028 555 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 750.3028 (pause 0.21) 750.5172 556 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 750.5172 uh become engaged to this colored man. 752.5659 557 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 752.5659 (pause 0.27) 752.8358 558 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 752.8358 You know, Sydney Poitier was the 754.1321 559 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 754.1321 (pause 0.28) 754.4072 560 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 754.4072 actor, 754.9015 561 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 754.9015 (pause 0.23) 755.1300 562 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 755.1300 [was the man.] 755.9227 563 DCA_int_01 755.1346 [/unintelligible/] 755.9786 564 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 756.1512 Uh-huh. 756.6081 565 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 756.6081 (pause 0.53) 757.1357 566 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 757.1357 And uh 757.7618 567 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 757.7618 (pause 0.20) 757.9577 568 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 757.9577 he was invited 758.9334 569 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 758.9334 (pause 0.35) 759.2878 570 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 759.2878 and- and oh 760.3556 571 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 760.3556 (pause 0.20) 760.5561 572 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 760.5561 then he was invited to come to dinner. 762.4306 573 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 762.4306 (pause 0.41) 762.8456 574 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 762.8456 His parents 763.6888 575 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 763.6888 (pause 1.95) 765.6425 576 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 765.6425 didn't approve of the engagement. 767.4098 577 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 767.4098 (pause 2.15) 769.5642 578 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 769.5642 As a matter of fact 770.4501 579 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 770.4501 (pause 0.43) 770.8838 580 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 770.8838 his parents disapproved, 772.7256 581 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 772.7256 (pause 0.47) 773.1919 582 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 773.1919 according to the picture, most- more than her parents 775.6898 583 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 775.6898 (pause 0.24) 775.9322 584 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 775.9322 did. 776.1514 585 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 776.1514 (pause 1.40) 777.5549 586 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 777.5549 Course he- her parents put up the battle, too. 779.7917 587 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 779.7917 (pause 0.68) 780.4678 588 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 780.4678 But since it was their daughter, 781.9084 589 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 781.9084 (pause 0.20) 782.1064 590 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 782.1064 they 782.4541 591 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 782.4541 (pause 0.12) 782.5700 592 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 782.5700 gave in. They gave in to her wishes and what not. 785.2054 593 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 785.2054 (pause 0.86) 786.0681 594 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 786.0681 And uh, 786.6230 595 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 786.6230 (pause 1.93) 788.5566 596 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 788.5566 not without some opposition. 789.9601 597 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 789.9601 (pause 1.87) 791.8332 598 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 791.8332 And uh, 792.5250 599 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 792.5250 (pause 1.86) 794.3807 600 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 794.3807 but his father 795.6957 601 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 795.6957 (pause 1.20) 796.8910 602 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 796.8910 was quite 797.9355 603 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 797.9355 (pause 0.47) 798.4017 604 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 798.4017 bitter. 798.9007 605 DCA_int_01 799.3002 Oh [yeah?] 799.9666 606 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 799.6033 [He was] about the most bitter of all. 801.5244 607 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 801.7436 Yes, he was. Uh-huh. 803.2031 608 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 803.2031 (pause 1.17) 804.3720 609 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 804.3720 He was just 805.2533 610 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 805.2533 (pause 0.64) 805.8968 611 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 805.8968 breaking convention, 807.4775 612 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 807.4775 (pause 0.56) 808.0356 613 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 808.0356 and uh 808.8656 614 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 808.8656 (pause 0.40) 809.2666 615 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 809.2666 of course, 809.9847 616 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 809.9847 (pause 0.82) 810.8007 617 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 810.8007 as his father 811.8663 618 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 811.8663 (pause 0.21) 812.0808 619 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 812.0808 lived 812.7393 620 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 812.7393 (pause 1.02) 813.7566 621 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 813.7566 that type of- 814.4642 622 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 814.4642 (pause 0.81) 815.2755 623 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 815.2755 of a breakthrough 816.4785 624 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 816.4785 (pause 0.88) 817.3538 625 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 817.3538 as he saw it, was not for his son. 819.1537 626 DCA_int_01 820.7982 Is it the old school? 821.9453 627 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 821.9407 Yes, uh-huh. 822.8438 628 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 823.8183 But it came out that uh 825.4317 629 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 825.4317 (pause 1.09) 826.5182 630 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 826.5182 the guest 827.2814 631 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 827.2814 (pause 0.20) 827.4819 632 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 827.4819 th- uh, it- it wound up that uh they - 829.8647 633 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 829.8647 (pause 0.32) 830.1817 634 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 830.1817 they, that engagement went through as 832.4682 635 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 832.4682 (pause 0.48) 832.9438 636 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 832.9438 the girl had planned, 834.0598 637 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 834.0598 (pause 0.41) 834.4652 638 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 834.4652 and what not. 835.0738 639 DCA_int_01 836.2126 Where was there room for comedy in that? 837.9799 640 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 839.2437 Oh, 839.7286 641 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 839.7286 (pause 1.29) 841.0202 642 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 841.0202 there was a lot of room for comedy in that uh 843.5009 643 DCA_int_01 844.5750 Most people got surprised that- 846.1091 644 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 846.5350 yes, well, uh 847.9105 645 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 847.9105 (pause 0.87) 848.7794 646 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 848.7794 when this 849.3017 647 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 849.3017 (pause 0.22) 849.5208 648 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 849.5208 uh the /snow/ called- the so-called snobs came in 853.7440 649 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 853.7440 (pause 0.46) 854.2056 650 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 854.2056 who were 854.8817 651 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 854.8817 (pause 0.22) 855.1055 652 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 855.1055 uh, 855.4413 653 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 855.4413 (pause 2.63) 858.0697 654 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 858.0697 some people who were 859.3193 655 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 859.3193 (pause 0.32) 859.6443 656 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 859.6443 the wi- the um 860.6748 657 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 860.6748 (pause 0.44) 861.1178 658 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 861.1178 the um 862.1296 659 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 862.1296 (pause 0.64) 862.7731 660 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 862.7731 fiancee's 863.6483 661 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 863.6483 (pause 1.22) 864.8665 662 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 864.8665 friends- 865.5810 663 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 865.5810 (pause 0.41) 865.9937 664 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 865.9937 of the friend- of their- her- of her family rather. 868.1771 665 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 868.1771 (pause 0.41) 868.5851 666 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 868.5851 They're the ones that uh 869.9327 667 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 869.9327 (pause 0.89) 870.8233 668 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 870.8233 were real 871.6207 669 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 871.6207 (pause 0.49) 872.1149 670 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 872.1149 comic 872.5533 671 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 872.5533 (pause 0.63) 873.1827 672 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 873.1827 in their resistance to the girl be- becoming engaged to this 876.7217 673 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 876.7217 (pause 0.82) 877.5459 674 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 877.5459 colored man. 878.1055 675 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 878.1055 (pause 0.77) 878.8795 676 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 878.8795 It was really funny. That part was funny, 880.5756 677 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 880.5756 (pause 0.55) 881.1305 678 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 881.1305 and of course, 881.8037 679 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 881.8037 (pause 0.23) 882.0293 680 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 882.0293 the seriousness of his father 883.8106 681 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 883.8106 (pause 0.90) 884.7152 682 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 884.7152 was such 885.4662 683 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 885.4662 (pause 0.76) 886.2230 684 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 886.2230 that it 886.7919 685 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 886.7919 (pause 0.99) 887.7799 686 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 887.7799 reverted back 888.8384 687 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 888.8384 (pause 0.35) 889.1927 688 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 889.1927 to the 889.6893 689 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 889.6893 (pause 2.35) 892.0412 690 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 892.0412 comic side, you know? I mean you can get so serious [that you- you] can become 896.4797 691 DCA_int_01 894.4727 [So serious.] 895.1586 692 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 896.9384 uh 897.6565 693 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 897.6565 (pause 0.25) 897.9106 694 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 897.9106 funny 898.2160 695 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 898.2160 (pause 1.12) 899.3369 696 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 899.3369 to- 899.6610 697 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 899.6610 (pause 1.00) 900.6565 698 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 900.6565 to your uh viewers, 902.2256 699 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 902.2256 (pause 0.31) 902.5380 700 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 902.5380 but not to the father himself. Wasn't funny to him. 904.6963 701 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 904.6963 (pause 0.76) 905.4586 702 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 905.4586 But he was so serious about being bent against 908.2563 703 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 908.2563 (pause 0.60) 908.8532 704 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 908.8532 his son marrying this girl, 910.2124 705 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 910.2124 (pause 0.76) 910.9678 706 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 910.9678 that it got to the point I mean he had a real 913.7096 707 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 913.7096 (pause 2.51) 916.2182 708 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 916.2182 grouchy, look on his face 917.5309 709 DCA_int_01 917.5355 Hm. 917.8200 710 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 918.3084 and if you've never seen a man that 919.6513 711 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 919.6513 (pause 1.08) 920.7331 712 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 920.7331 uh showing that much opposition 922.2765 713 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 922.2765 (pause 0.30) 922.5796 714 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 922.5796 from his expression, 923.4562 715 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 923.4562 (pause 0.29) 923.7500 716 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 923.7500 the picture's worthwhile seeing. 925.0964 717 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 925.0964 (pause 0.60) 925.6979 718 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 925.6979 926.3181 719 DCA_int_01 926.3274 That sounds like /the kind of movie I'd see/. 928.2402 720 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 928.2952 928.6542 721 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 928.6542 (pause 0.32) 928.9725 722 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 928.9725 Oh, it- it's they have a pretty full house there. 931.1687 723 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 931.1687 (pause 0.97) 932.1339 724 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 932.1339 Mm-hm. It's been there for ov- ab- b- it's been there uh 934.8652 725 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 934.8652 (pause 0.25) 935.1123 726 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 935.1123 almost three weeks now, I think, at the Palace. 937.0450 727 DCA_int_01 937.4917 No kidding. 937.9864 728 DCA_int_01 937.9864 (pause 1.93) 939.9140 729 DCA_int_01 939.9140 Did you ever have a pet? 940.7067 730 DCA_int_01 940.7067 (pause 0.77) 941.4722 731 DCA_int_01 941.4722 /At some point in your life/? 942.3449 732 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 943.0801 Yes, we had a pet once 944.6759 733 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 944.6759 (pause 1.37) 946.0422 734 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 946.0422 that couldn't be a p- a pet that wasn't a pet. 948.4109 735 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 948.4109 (pause 0.57) 948.9830 736 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 948.9830 Oh, yes. We had others- had others here too. 951.1186 737 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 951.1186 (pause 0.47) 951.5896 738 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 951.5896 Uh, 951.9999 739 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 951.9999 (pause 0.40) 952.4009 740 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 952.4009 we had a dog here, a Doberman Pincher. 954.4698 741 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 954.4698 (pause 1.15) 955.6215 742 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 955.6215 And uh 956.2370 743 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 956.2370 (pause 0.27) 956.5110 744 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 956.5110 but she was uh 957.9425 745 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 957.9425 (pause 1.18) 959.1175 746 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 959.1175 sort of mentally unbalanced. 960.4838 747 DCA_int_01 961.0200 961.2019 748 DCA_int_01 961.2019 (pause 0.85) 962.0550 749 DCA_int_01 962.0550 A dog mentally unbalanced? 963.6818 750 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 963.7337 Oh yes, oh yes. 964.6142 751 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 964.6142 (pause 0.07) 964.6795 752 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 964.6795 Many dogs here I think mentally unbalanced. One of 'em back here now thinks mental, the way he chases cars I think is mentally unbalanced. He does a lot of crazy things, chases birds. 971.4593 753 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 971.4593 (pause 0.63) 972.0906 754 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 972.0906 Yes, I- I think there plenty animals that are 974.7965 755 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 974.7965 (pause 1.18) 975.9715 756 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 975.9715 well, maybe not, b- you wouldn't call him mentally unbalanced as I said it. Uh, I- I just- he's- maybe he's just not a conventional dog. 981.8281 757 DCA_int_01 981.9328 Mm-hm. 982.2969 758 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 982.4250 I mean you can make friends with him. 984.1596 759 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 984.1596 (pause 1.61) 985.7675 760 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 985.7675 Maybe he's not mentally unbalanced, but uh, 987.6428 761 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 987.6428 (pause 1.77) 989.4159 762 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 989.4159 maybe I use a too s- a too strong a term for a dog, 992.2684 763 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 992.2684 (pause 1.27) 993.5367 764 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 993.5367 uh 994.1336 765 DCA_int_01 994.6372 No, you're probably right. 995.9801 766 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 995.9801 but, uh, he- he- he wasn't a too a friendly dog. Well no Pinchers are. 1000.9414 767 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1001.3101 Usually Pinchers are one man dogs anyway. 1003.4084 768 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1003.4084 (pause 0.90) 1004.3130 769 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1004.3130 But uh 1004.9192 770 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1004.9192 (pause 0.66) 1005.5813 771 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1005.5813 this one 1006.2598 772 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1006.2598 (pause 0.96) 1007.2206 773 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1007.2206 uh, 1007.5201 774 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1007.5201 (pause 0.39) 1007.9104 775 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1007.9104 he just didn't uh 1009.2440 776 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1009.2440 (pause 1.20) 1010.4470 777 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1010.4470 act like a regular dog acts. Even th- um uh the- the- the uh um 1015.3244 778 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1015.3244 (pause 2.85) 1018.1781 779 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1018.1781 eccentric Pinchers, 1019.4441 780 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1019.4441 (pause 0.39) 1019.8358 781 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1019.8358 which are eccentric dogs. 1021.1857 782 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1021.1857 (pause 0.69) 1021.8712 783 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1021.8712 and this one was most eccentric. 1023.7993 784 DCA_int_01 1024.3015 Uh. 1024.5751 785 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1025.4500 I can use the c- word eccentric for a dog, can I? [] 1028.0892 786 DCA_int_01 1027.8653 [Yeah] you do. 1028.9844 787 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1029.0497 Well, you call him for his fo- his- call her for her food, she wouldn't come to you. 1032.5584 788 DCA_int_01 1032.8475 Hm. 1033.0154 789 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1033.5353 And after a while you call 1035.0088 790 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1035.0088 (pause 0.31) 1035.3166 791 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1035.3166 until you're tired, 1036.9952 792 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1036.9952 (pause 0.70) 1037.6946 793 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1037.6946 and you see her peaking around the corner of the building 1039.9010 794 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1039.9010 (pause 0.29) 1040.1949 795 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1040.1949 [and things.] 1040.8112 796 DCA_int_01 1040.3805 [Oh no.] 1041.1172 797 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1041.0799 1042.3575 798 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1043.5979 And so uh, 1044.5771 799 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1044.5771 (pause 1.23) 1045.8082 800 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1045.8082 she had some puppies. We had to have her destroyed 1047.7140 801 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1047.7140 (pause 0.34) 1048.0497 802 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1048.0497 because uh 1048.8051 803 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1048.8051 (pause 1.08) 1049.8869 804 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1049.8869 of the illness that resulted 1051.1086 805 DCA_int_01 1051.7404 Um. 1051.9549 806 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1052.8222 from the birth of the puppies. 1054.3610 807 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1054.3610 (pause 1.18) 1055.5453 808 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1055.5453 Had to have her destroyed. 1056.7390 809 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1056.7390 (pause 1.69) 1058.4270 810 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1058.4270 We've had 1059.0612 811 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1059.0612 (pause 2.04) 1061.1035 812 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1061.1035 um 1061.8682 813 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1061.8682 (pause 0.21) 1062.0735 814 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1062.0735 a parakeet here. We've had a canary. 1064.0599 815 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1064.0599 (pause 1.90) 1065.9612 816 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1065.9612 Don't have any now. 1066.9218 817 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1066.9218 (pause 0.19) 1067.1083 818 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1067.1083 Uh 1067.5839 819 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1067.5839 (pause 0.33) 1067.9103 820 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1067.9103 we st- we have- we have a tropical fish here now. 1070.4038 821 DCA_int_01 1070.7815 Oh. 1071.0473 822 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1071.2664 Mm-hm. 1071.6768 823 DCA_int_01 1071.7840 Very interesting. 1072.5907 824 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1072.5860 Yes, uh-huh. 1073.2855 825 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1074.5165 Quite interesting I think. 1075.5936 826 DCA_int_01 1076.0727 Do you have to 1076.6090 827 DCA_int_01 1076.6090 (pause 1.15) 1077.7560 828 DCA_int_01 1077.7560 bubble oxygen through the water and- 1079.4860 829 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1079.4906 Yeah, yeah- not oxygen. We have air, not [oxygen] Yes, uh-huh. 1082.6809 830 DCA_int_01 1081.6224 [Air.] 1081.8556 831 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1084.0273 And uh, 1084.6988 832 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1084.6988 (pause 0.46) 1085.1604 833 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1085.1604 we also have 1086.1443 834 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1086.1443 (pause 1.04) 1087.1795 835 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1087.1795 uh, 1087.9255 836 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1087.9255 (pause 0.94) 1088.8628 837 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1088.8628 we have a um 1089.7487 838 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1089.7487 (pause 0.73) 1090.4750 839 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1090.4750 filters down there and also have the 1092.1583 840 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1092.1583 (pause 0.23) 1092.3868 841 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1092.3868 pump- 1092.6199 842 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1092.6199 (pause 0.40) 1093.0163 843 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1093.0163 air pump. 1093.5979 844 DCA_int_01 1093.6900 Mm-hm. 1094.1460 845 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1095.3570 And also uh 1096.5076 846 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1096.5076 (pause 2.61) 1099.1188 847 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1099.1188 I have a- a pump down there attached to steam engine. 1101.5762 848 DCA_int_01 1101.8548 Oh [yeah?] 1102.4174 849 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1102.1672 [] Well, I- 1102.5767 850 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1102.6848 I don't- we haven't used it yet, but I can use it for that purpose. 1105.0584 851 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1105.0584 (pause 0.49) 1105.5478 852 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1105.5478 Yeah, I'm gonna use it. 1106.2892 853 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1106.2892 (pause 0.46) 1106.7462 854 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1106.7462 I had it operating the other day 1108.0938 855 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1108.0938 (pause 0.40) 1108.4890 856 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1108.4890 uh, on the steam engine to see how it work and it took off like a jet. 1111.7390 857 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1111.7390 (pause 0.94) 1112.6762 858 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1112.6762 Oh yes, like a steam [engine ] 1114.5898 859 DCA_int_01 1113.9166 [] 1114.6188 860 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1115.3982 So it's uh 1115.9904 861 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1115.9904 (pause 0.72) 1116.7132 862 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1116.7132 uh, 1117.4266 863 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1117.4266 (pause 1.00) 1118.4244 864 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1118.4244 one of the largest steam engines that you can get 1121.1444 865 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1121.1444 (pause 1.01) 1122.1537 866 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1122.1537 uh 1122.9790 867 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1122.9790 (pause 1.34) 1124.3219 868 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1124.3219 which you might can use as a sort of a hobby, 1126.3037 869 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1126.3037 (pause 0.84) 1127.1477 870 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1127.1477 you know. 1127.5813 871 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1127.5813 (pause 0.35) 1127.9299 872 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1127.9299 And steam engines, I've had two. This is the biggest one I've- I have 1130.8722 873 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1130.8722 (pause 0.37) 1131.2405 874 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1131.2405 there now is the 1132.4742 875 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1132.4742 (pause 1.29) 1133.7632 876 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1133.7632 operate every night- I had to operate another night down there while I was 1136.2194 877 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1136.2194 (pause 1.35) 1137.5669 878 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1137.5669 looking at television. 1138.9891 879 DCA_int_01 1140.6526 Is that a hobby of yours, or? 1142.0095 880 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1144.0752 Well, they have to call it a hobby because I like to fool with them. I always did like steam engines. You know that- that- this is something that uh 1149.9284 881 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1149.9284 (pause 1.11) 1151.0429 882 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1151.0429 that hangs on to me ever since I was 1153.5422 883 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1153.5422 (pause 0.77) 1154.3127 884 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1154.3127 a small kid. You know, the fire department used to have steam engines to pump water. 1157.8239 885 DCA_int_01 1158.3694 Oh yeah? 1158.8266 886 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1158.8031 Steam pumpers, that's before your time. 1160.5082 887 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1161.2683 You don't remember that I don't supp- unless you see one in a museum. 1163.4785 888 DCA_int_01 1163.4960 Yeah, I did. I saw one in the Smithsonian. 1165.5570 889 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1165.5574 Yes, 1166.0973 890 DCA_int_01 1166.0922 [/inaudible/] 1166.6540 891 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1166.3507 [uh] they have them in the- in the Smithsonian and uh 1168.8774 892 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1169.6421 and uh some places, they have different types. They have a uh 1172.0482 893 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1172.0482 (pause 3.28) 1175.3309 894 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1175.3309 um 1175.7785 895 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1175.7785 (pause 0.28) 1176.0590 896 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1176.0590 (snapping) 1177.1506 897 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1177.1506 (pause 1.69) 1178.8374 898 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1178.8374 I can't think of what the name is called. 1180.3238 899 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1180.3238 (pause 0.10) 1180.4204 900 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1180.4204 A steam engine, but i- it's a- it doesn't as pump as /much as/ a direct pumping engine pumps. 1184.0164 901 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1184.0164 (pause 0.30) 1184.3211 902 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1184.3211 I mean the- 1184.8427 903 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1184.8427 (pause 0.18) 1185.0263 904 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1185.0263 the direct pumping engines have more capacity than the- 1187.4074 905 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1187.4074 (pause 0.63) 1188.0335 906 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1188.0335 the other type. 1188.8980 907 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1188.8980 (pause 1.72) 1190.6178 908 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1190.6178 And uh, 1191.2602 909 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1191.2602 (pause 0.56) 1191.8198 910 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1191.8198 I have always been an admirer of steam engines. 1194.5741 911 DCA_int_01 1194.6247 Mm-hm. 1195.0141 912 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1195.5128 I- when I was in the- in the department I used to go and inspect buildings 1198.8701 913 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1198.8701 (pause 0.43) 1199.3010 914 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1199.3010 and uh, I g-, inspect the ammonia plants 1201.5671 915 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1201.5671 (pause 0.78) 1202.3447 916 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1202.3447 those that operated by steam. 1204.1072 917 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1204.1072 (pause 0.27) 1204.3777 918 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1204.3777 I would watch them for a long time. Just look at them. 1206.2242 919 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1206.2242 (pause 0.42) 1206.6439 920 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1206.6439 It always [fascinated] me , 1208.9964 921 DCA_int_01 1208.2379 [/What/?] 1208.5470 922 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1209.3043 and also the- 1210.0863 923 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1210.0863 (pause 0.28) 1210.3613 924 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1210.3613 the trains. 1211.2575 925 DCA_int_01 1211.3848 Mm-hm. 1212.0283 926 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1212.0936 Trains always, uh 1213.7404 927 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1213.7404 (pause 0.68) 1214.4246 928 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1214.4246 railroad trains 1215.4021 929 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1215.4021 (pause 0.24) 1215.6416 930 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1215.6416 always- 1216.2281 931 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1216.2281 (pause 0.61) 1216.8428 932 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1216.8428 the uh 1217.6192 933 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1217.6192 (pause 0.20) 1217.8196 934 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1217.8196 steam engines always fascinated me. I'd go to watch 'em, 1220.0287 935 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1220.0287 (pause 0.17) 1220.1949 936 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1220.1949 wait for one to come past the different areas when I was a kid, you know. 1222.7510 937 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1222.7510 (pause 0.27) 1223.0211 938 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1223.0211 See them shoot pass and 1224.2241 939 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1224.2241 (pause 0.78) 1225.0075 940 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1225.0075 uh 1225.6230 941 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1225.6230 (pause 0.61) 1226.2292 942 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1226.2292 coming into Washington and 1227.4788 943 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1227.4788 (pause 0.36) 1227.8367 944 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1227.8367 places like that. 1228.5921 945 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1228.5921 (pause 0.29) 1228.8812 946 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1228.8812 Matter of fact, I raced one one time. 1230.4386 947 DCA_int_01 1230.4852 Did you really? 1231.2686 948 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1231.2779 Yes, I was going to um 1232.7537 949 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1232.7537 (pause 2.58) 1235.3369 950 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1235.3369 Chicago from Detroit 1237.0715 951 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1237.0715 (pause 1.79) 1238.8633 952 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1238.8633 uh 1239.2270 953 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1239.2270 (pause 0.26) 1239.4846 954 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1239.4846 back in nineteen thirty-five. I had a nineteen thirty-five Ford at that time. 1243.2522 955 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1243.2522 (pause 0.78) 1244.0356 956 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1244.0356 Brand new car. 1244.8842 957 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1244.8842 (pause 1.51) 1246.3950 958 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1246.3950 The was one of the 1247.0851 959 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1247.0851 (pause 0.35) 1247.4395 960 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1247.4395 first- 1248.0830 961 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1248.0830 (pause 0.69) 1248.7684 962 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1248.7684 that was the first V eight, 1249.9807 963 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1249.9807 (pause 0.37) 1250.3538 964 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1250.3538 but it was one of the first V eight engines that th- Ford put out. 1252.8997 965 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1252.8997 (pause 0.72) 1253.6178 966 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1253.6178 And I raced. I was on a 1255.0415 967 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1255.0415 (pause 0.21) 1255.2516 968 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1255.2516 high speed highway, 1256.6054 969 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1256.6054 (pause 0.15) 1256.7521 970 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1256.7521 and I was racing a New York Central train. 1259.4108 971 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1259.4108 (pause 2.65) 1262.0577 972 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1262.0577 It was, I guess on its way from to Chicago from um 1264.7621 973 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1264.7621 (pause 0.83) 1265.5921 974 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1265.5921 uh Detroit. That's what I was- 1266.8704 975 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1266.8704 (pause 0.19) 1267.0610 976 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1267.0610 where I was on a way for to anyway, and he was 1269.6953 977 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1269.6953 (pause 0.37) 1270.0626 978 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1270.0626 almost side by side with me. 1272.0210 979 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1272.0210 (pause 0.78) 1272.8044 980 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1272.8044 And I raced that train, and 1274.6445 981 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1274.6445 (pause 0.28) 1274.9231 982 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1274.9231 I went 1275.3239 983 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1275.3239 (pause 0.39) 1275.7140 984 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1275.7140 beside him neck to neck 1276.8518 985 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1276.8518 (pause 0.73) 1277.5859 986 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1277.5859 at seventy five miles an hour. 1279.2765 987 DCA_int_01 1279.5749 Hm. 1279.8174 988 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1280.4842 So uh- 1282.9563 989 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1282.9563 (pause 0.11) 1283.0669 990 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1283.0669 I /thought- got- that- I-/ then I said that's too long. [I cut down.] 1286.6103 991 DCA_int_01 1285.6134 [] 1286.4154 992 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1286.9036 Racing of trains. He had the right of way, and I didn't have a right of the way. 1289.2740 993 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1289.2740 (pause 0.16) 1289.4384 994 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1289.4384 Although, the- the- the uh 1290.7531 995 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1290.7531 (pause 0.14) 1290.8948 996 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1290.8948 the- the uh 1292.1314 997 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1292.1314 (pause 0.40) 1292.5321 998 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1292.5321 roadway now was /uh not as unlimited/. 1294.7340 999 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1294.7340 (pause 0.75) 1295.4847 1000 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1295.4847 But uh, 1296.0583 1001 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1296.0583 (pause 0.78) 1296.8417 1002 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1296.8417 just racing the train, 1298.1659 1003 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1298.1659 (pause 0.67) 1298.8374 1004 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1298.8374 I cut it out. 1299.5461 1005 DCA_int_01 1299.5648 Yeah. 1299.9378 1006 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1300.2549 Uh they permitted the high speed driving on the road, but uh 1302.8288 1007 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1302.8288 (pause 0.52) 1303.3511 1008 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1303.3511 I just let him go ahead. 1304.2438 1009 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1304.2438 (pause 0.22) 1304.4637 1010 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1304.4637 1305.0453 1011 DCA_int_01 1305.0624 For your own safety. 1306.3867 1012 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1306.3867 Yes, uh-huh. 1307.2260 1013 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1307.7109 So, I bought that steam engine. That's uh, 1309.6833 1014 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1309.6833 (pause 0.48) 1310.1683 1015 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1310.1683 uh i- it's still with me. 1311.4552 1016 DCA_int_01 1312.0711 Mm. 1312.2890 1017 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1313.1898 Yesterday's living. 1314.0727 1018 DCA_int_01 1314.4426 Yeah. 1314.8176 1019 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1314.7922 1315.5586 1020 DCA_int_01 1315.6425 Oh, I love steam engines [since I can] remember as a kid. 1318.2367 1021 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1316.6684 [Mm-hm.] 1317.2559 1022 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1318.4403 Yeah. 1318.8413 1023 DCA_int_01 1320.4919 What did you study in school when you were a kid? Can you remember? 1323.6217 1024 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1324.8994 In grade school? 1325.7480 1025 DCA_int_01 1325.9066 Yeah. 1326.1024 1026 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1327.3800 Well, I went to the Catholic school, 1328.9934 1027 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1328.9934 (pause 1.69) 1330.6791 1028 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1330.6791 and uh 1331.5277 1029 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1331.5277 (pause 0.60) 1332.1275 1030 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1332.1275 course all Catholic schools have 1334.6892 1031 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1334.6892 (pause 0.33) 1335.0156 1032 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1335.0156 religion. 1335.6217 1033 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1335.6217 (pause 1.74) 1337.3657 1034 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1337.3657 Uh, they have uh 1338.4661 1035 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1338.4661 (pause 1.02) 1339.4826 1036 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1339.4826 three times a week, they have what is known as catechism. 1341.8233 1037 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1341.8233 (pause 0.55) 1342.3770 1038 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1342.3770 That is questions and answers, 1343.8505 1039 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1343.8505 (pause 0.81) 1344.6619 1040 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1344.6619 uh, as to 1345.6784 1041 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1345.6784 (pause 1.27) 1346.9467 1042 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1346.9467 who made you, 1347.9072 1043 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1347.9072 (pause 0.23) 1348.1355 1044 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1348.1355 who is God, 1348.9049 1045 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1348.9049 (pause 1.01) 1349.9167 1046 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1349.9167 uh 1350.5649 1047 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1350.5649 (pause 0.54) 1351.1074 1048 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1351.1074 the Ten Commandments 1352.2591 1049 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1352.2591 (pause 2.12) 1354.3746 1050 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1354.3746 and different practices 1355.9916 1051 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1355.9916 (pause 1.90) 1357.8890 1052 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1357.8890 of your 1358.5744 1053 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1358.5744 (pause 0.32) 1358.8962 1054 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1358.8962 faith 1359.0734 1055 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1359.0734 (pause 0.20) 1359.2692 1056 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1359.2692 as a 1359.7262 1057 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1359.7262 (pause 0.41) 1360.1365 1058 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1360.1365 Roman Catholic. 1360.9152 1059 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1360.9152 (pause 1.07) 1361.9832 1060 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1361.9832 Then twice a week 1362.9157 1061 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1362.9157 (pause 0.41) 1363.3307 1062 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1363.3307 they had what is known as Bible History. 1365.8394 1063 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1365.8394 (pause 2.50) 1368.3430 1064 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1368.3430 That was 1369.2232 1065 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1369.2232 (pause 1.48) 1370.7002 1066 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1370.7002 not in a- in the cata- /catechol/ form. 1372.9416 1067 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1372.9416 (pause 0.22) 1373.1607 1068 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1373.1607 That was straight history 1374.2903 1069 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1374.2903 (pause 0.70) 1374.9944 1070 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1374.9944 but the catechism itself, 1376.4696 1071 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1376.4696 (pause 0.52) 1376.9917 1072 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1376.9917 what you should do under certain circumstances 1379.3180 1073 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1379.3180 (pause 0.17) 1379.4890 1074 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1379.4890 of living 1380.0884 1075 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1380.0884 (pause 0.60) 1380.6849 1076 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1380.6849 was 1381.2584 1077 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1381.2584 (pause 0.99) 1382.2486 1078 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1382.2486 in the form of questions and answers. 1384.5427 1079 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1384.5427 (pause 1.42) 1385.9665 1080 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1385.9665 Now, of course they had reading, spelling, 1387.9079 1081 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1387.9079 (pause 2.34) 1390.2518 1082 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1390.2518 and of course the Catholic schools always had drills 1393.7989 1083 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1393.7989 (pause 0.75) 1394.5496 1084 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1394.5496 in 1395.0065 1085 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1395.0065 (pause 0.96) 1395.9624 1086 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1395.9624 the mulitplica- oh, in the uh 1397.7655 1087 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1397.7655 (pause 1.95) 1399.7146 1088 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1399.7146 tables. 1400.3674 1089 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1400.3674 (pause 0.93) 1401.2939 1090 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1401.2939 Arithmetic tables. 1402.4783 1091 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1402.4783 (pause 1.96) 1404.4397 1092 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1404.4397 Addition, 1405.1544 1093 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1405.1544 (pause 0.67) 1405.8215 1094 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1405.8215 multiplication 1406.8660 1095 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1406.8660 (pause 1.74) 1408.6087 1096 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1408.6087 subtraction and division. 1410.0554 1097 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1410.0554 (pause 2.61) 1412.6666 1098 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1412.6666 Mm, they have- they had drills. I mean if uh uh, if you- you wouldn't guess at at all, 1417.6670 1099 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1417.6670 (pause 0.24) 1417.9114 1100 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1417.9114 try to 1418.2829 1101 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1418.2829 (pause 0.32) 1418.6006 1102 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1418.6006 tax your mind, 1419.4461 1103 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1419.4461 (pause 0.23) 1419.6807 1104 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1419.6807 you'd have to memorize them. 1420.9564 1105 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1420.9564 (pause 0.92) 1421.8805 1106 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1421.8805 And 1422.2253 1107 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1422.2253 (pause 0.27) 1422.4989 1108 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1422.4989 they all- everybody recited those tables in concert, 1425.7425 1109 DCA_int_01 1426.3394 Oh. 1426.6191 1110 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1426.6378 which meant 1427.2184 1111 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1427.2184 (pause 0.22) 1427.4335 1112 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1427.4335 that they weren't hard to memorize, and you'd find a lot of 1430.3171 1113 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1430.3171 (pause 0.72) 1431.0396 1114 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1431.0396 the uh 1431.7784 1115 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1431.7784 (pause 0.28) 1432.0570 1116 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1432.0570 pupils that finished in the Catholic schools would know their tables because 1435.7538 1117 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1435.7538 (pause 0.82) 1436.5699 1118 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1436.5699 they had those drills on tables. 1438.7741 1119 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1438.7741 (pause 1.61) 1440.3794 1120 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1440.3794 They required that. 1441.1628 1121 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1441.1628 (pause 2.41) 1443.5688 1122 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1443.5688 Not that they- they were any smarter than the public school children, but the thing of is 1446.9095 1123 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1446.9095 (pause 0.38) 1447.2858 1124 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1447.2858 something that you do everyday, you [won't forget that so] very easily. 1449.9788 1125 DCA_int_01 1448.7569 [/inaudible/] 1449.5194 1126 DCA_int_01 1450.0716 Yeah. 1450.4770 1127 DCA_int_01 1450.4770 (pause 2.34) 1452.8200 1128 DCA_int_01 1452.8200 What did the kids do when school got out? 1454.7225 1129 DCA_int_01 1454.7225 (pause 1.45) 1456.1694 1130 DCA_int_01 1456.1694 Do you remember? 1456.9172 1131 DCA_int_01 1456.9172 (pause 0.99) 1457.9073 1132 DCA_int_01 1457.9073 Or do you notice what the kids do around here after school? 1460.7423 1133 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1461.8241 Well, let's see. 1462.6582 1134 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1462.6582 (pause 1.67) 1464.3233 1135 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1464.3233 I think the kids 1465.2747 1136 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1465.2747 (pause 0.76) 1466.0309 1137 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1466.0309 today, 1466.7482 1138 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1466.7482 (pause 1.94) 1468.6879 1139 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1468.6879 the /grade/ school kids today, 1470.1428 1140 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1470.1428 (pause 0.81) 1470.9500 1141 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1470.9500 are 1471.8027 1142 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1471.8027 (pause 4.20) 1475.9985 1143 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1475.9985 well I think they uh, well they're different. 1478.5164 1144 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1478.5164 (pause 1.68) 1480.1951 1145 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1480.1951 Communication is different. They have radio, they have TV. 1483.3845 1146 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1483.3845 (pause 0.73) 1484.1119 1147 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1484.1119 They have means of play- 1485.8605 1148 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1485.8605 (pause 0.28) 1486.1403 1149 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1486.1403 better means of playing. 1487.4086 1150 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1487.4086 (pause 0.56) 1487.9681 1151 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1487.9681 They're 1488.2415 1152 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1488.2415 (pause 0.40) 1488.6425 1153 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1488.6425 better clothed 1489.5751 1154 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1489.5751 (pause 0.57) 1490.1440 1155 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1490.1440 than we were. 1490.8154 1156 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1490.8154 (pause 1.68) 1492.4976 1157 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1492.4976 You see all these kids around here, all going to school, they have um, 1495.3606 1158 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1495.3606 (pause 0.43) 1495.7896 1159 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1495.7896 in bad weather, they have bad weather clothes on. 1498.0604 1160 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1498.0604 (pause 0.62) 1498.6852 1161 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1498.6852 That's why I wonder sometimes why they close the schools because 1501.3897 1162 DCA_int_01 1501.5949 1501.8164 1163 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1501.8094 kids around here are prepared to go in school in snow, 1504.2993 1164 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1504.5283 and a lot of 'em like it, 1505.4050 1165 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1505.4050 (pause 1.00) 1506.4028 1166 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1506.4028 you see. 1506.9624 1167 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1506.9624 (pause 1.30) 1508.2668 1168 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1508.2668 And uh 1508.9290 1169 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1508.9290 (pause 1.11) 1510.0434 1170 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1510.0434 we didn't- they didn't close school for us. 1511.4842 1171 DCA_int_01 1512.1557 Oh no? 1512.6639 1172 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1512.7887 No. 1513.2690 1173 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1513.2690 (pause 0.18) 1513.4508 1174 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1513.4508 No, they didn't close school when /we were going/- it was cold days of going to school, get to school you're so cold you couldn't sit in a chair so well. 1518.2629 1175 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1518.2629 (pause 0.24) 1518.5019 1176 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1518.5019 But, these kids are well protected against cold. 1520.3204 1177 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1520.3204 (pause 0.58) 1520.9049 1178 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1520.9049 And they don't have as far to go. 1522.0799 1179 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1522.0799 (pause 1.50) 1523.5846 1180 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1523.5846 Most of them don't have as far to go, you see. 1525.1373 1181 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1525.1373 (pause 1.91) 1527.0491 1182 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1527.0491 And uh 1527.7392 1183 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1527.7392 (pause 3.14) 1530.8822 1184 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1530.8822 but uh 1531.5163 1185 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1531.5163 (pause 1.03) 1532.5468 1186 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1532.5468 after school, 1533.6053 1187 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1533.6053 (pause 1.10) 1534.7012 1188 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1534.7012 they'd get a little rough every now and then, 1536.8182 1189 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1536.8182 (pause 0.86) 1537.6808 1190 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1537.6808 but not uh, 1538.6227 1191 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1538.6227 (pause 0.89) 1539.5134 1192 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1539.5134 but uh 1539.9983 1193 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1539.9983 (pause 0.43) 1540.4274 1194 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1540.4274 uh, those days it was to be expected, because uh, 1543.8826 1195 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1543.8826 (pause 4.95) 1548.8364 1196 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1548.8364 because 1549.8436 1197 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1549.8436 (pause 0.46) 1550.3052 1198 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1550.3052 I like- I don't- I- I never thought of why it was that the 1553.4107 1199 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1553.4107 (pause 0.97) 1554.3807 1200 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1554.3807 uh, 1555.2946 1201 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1555.2946 (pause 2.43) 1557.7255 1202 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1557.7255 well, but 1558.3446 1203 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1558.3446 (pause 0.29) 1558.6384 1204 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1558.6384 while the kids were little different, little- got a little rough coming home from school. 1561.6879 1205 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1561.6879 (pause 0.55) 1562.2382 1206 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1562.2382 They had their battles. 1563.1068 1207 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1563.1068 (pause 0.65) 1563.7596 1208 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1563.7596 They had their battles every now and then. 1565.3076 1209 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1565.3076 (pause 1.78) 1567.0828 1210 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1567.0828 Uh, someone r- would take somebody's hat in school, 1570.2862 1211 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1570.2862 (pause 0.45) 1570.7385 1212 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1570.7385 and the boys /were loud/ and teacher corrected him for it, 1573.1870 1213 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1573.1870 (pause 0.62) 1573.8029 1214 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1573.8029 and of course it was, I'll get you after school. 1577.1162 1215 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1577.1162 (pause 0.42) 1577.5358 1216 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1577.5358 And that [happens,] 1578.3845 1217 DCA_int_01 1578.0718 [/I remember that./] 1578.4941 1218 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1578.7482 well that happens [in s-] sometimes now too, but not- I don't think it happens much. 1582.7583 1219 DCA_int_01 1579.5198 [School.] 1579.8585 1220 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1584.6176 I don't know. It's hard to say which 1586.4588 1221 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1586.4588 (pause 0.20) 1586.6543 1222 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1586.6543 is which. I never had a 1587.7491 1223 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1587.7491 (pause 0.82) 1588.5717 1224 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1588.5717 tally on that. 1589.3085 1225 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1589.3085 (pause 1.52) 1590.8320 1226 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1590.8320 But i- I don't see 1592.1936 1227 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1592.1936 (pause 0.57) 1592.7631 1228 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1592.7631 UH, 1592.9100 1229 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1592.9100 (pause 0.20) 1593.1127 1230 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1593.1127 they'll play out here, 1594.2639 1231 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1594.2639 (pause 0.56) 1594.8235 1232 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1594.8235 but as far as uh 1596.2503 1233 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1596.2503 (pause 0.68) 1596.9311 1234 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1596.9311 fighting, I don't see much of it around kids now. 1599.1285 1235 DCA_int_01 1602.3645 Good. 1602.5977 1236 DCA_int_01 1602.5977 (pause 1.18) 1603.7821 1237 DCA_int_01 1603.7821 Did you ever a teacher that hollered a lot? 1605.4700 1238 DCA_int_01 1605.4700 (pause 2.35) 1607.8236 1239 DCA_int_01 1607.8236 Do you remember? 1608.6163 1240 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1608.9684 Hollowed? 1609.5209 1241 DCA_int_01 1609.8846 Hollered at the kids? 1610.9384 1242 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1612.4757 Yes, I've- yes, I've had teachers that uh 1614.3968 1243 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1614.3968 (pause 0.52) 1614.9190 1244 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1614.9190 pretty st- were pretty strict. /I put up/- uh, pretty strict on the kids. 1617.3873 1245 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1617.3873 (pause 1.47) 1618.8547 1246 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1618.8547 I had a sister who was - 1619.7121 1247 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1619.7121 (pause 0.22) 1619.9271 1248 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1619.9271 uh, one of the Catholic sisters was pretty strict. She's v- she was very strict. 1622.8107 1249 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1622.8107 (pause 1.35) 1624.1642 1250 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1624.1642 And uh 1624.8124 1251 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1624.8124 (pause 0.75) 1625.5584 1252 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1625.5584 and of course there was some 1626.8594 1253 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1626.8594 (pause 0.14) 1626.9946 1254 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1626.9946 pretty rough 1627.4702 1255 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1627.4702 (pause 2.04) 1629.5127 1256 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1629.5127 children in the room, too you see? It's- they had to be strict sometimes. 1633.0426 1257 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1633.0426 (pause 0.93) 1633.9690 1258 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1633.9690 Uh but they got order. 1634.8142 1259 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1634.8142 (pause 0.20) 1635.0182 1260 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1635.0182 Most of them got order 1635.9169 1261 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1635.9169 (pause 0.55) 1636.4622 1262 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1636.4622 in the schools. 1637.0637 1263 DCA_int_01 1637.5953 /What/ did they used to holler about? 1639.1352 1264 DCA_int_01 1639.1352 (pause 0.22) 1639.3544 1265 DCA_int_01 1639.3544 Do you know? 1640.5096 1266 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1641.4128 Well, 1641.9397 1267 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1641.9397 (pause 0.29) 1642.2288 1268 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1642.2288 for instance, you know how that is uh, 1644.4203 1269 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1644.4203 (pause 0.26) 1644.6768 1270 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1644.6768 some people uh 1645.6047 1271 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1645.6047 (pause 1.53) 1647.1327 1272 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1647.1327 well teachers, you know, are like anybody else. 1649.8575 1273 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1649.8575 (pause 0.68) 1650.5414 1274 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1650.5414 They have their emotional 1651.9076 1275 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1651.9076 (pause 0.83) 1652.7376 1276 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1652.7376 problems and what not, and they get disgusted with children sometimes, too because the children don't uh 1657.4814 1277 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1657.4814 (pause 1.06) 1658.5431 1278 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1658.5431 do what they tell them. 1659.4430 1279 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1659.4430 (pause 1.03) 1660.4721 1280 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1660.4721 They don't follow the instructions. 1661.7544 1281 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1661.7544 (pause 0.66) 1662.4165 1282 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1662.4165 And of course, 1663.1954 1283 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1663.1954 (pause 0.28) 1663.4796 1284 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1663.4796 sometimes the case where the children uh 1665.6775 1285 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1665.6775 (pause 0.21) 1665.8920 1286 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1665.8920 just don't understand. 1666.9738 1287 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1666.9738 (pause 1.01) 1667.9795 1288 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1667.9795 In that case it could be the teacher's fault, you see. 1670.0545 1289 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1670.0545 (pause 1.96) 1672.0114 1290 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1672.0114 And uh, 1672.5990 1291 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1672.5990 (pause 2.38) 1674.9756 1292 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1674.9756 but uh, 1675.4652 1293 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1675.4652 (pause 0.24) 1675.7030 1294 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1675.7030 you have uh 1676.4724 1295 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1676.4724 (pause 0.41) 1676.8827 1296 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1676.8827 some children who w- just wouldn't study- just wouldn't study, too. 1680.0614 1297 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1680.0614 (pause 1.39) 1681.4478 1298 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1681.4478 That's another case 1682.4690 1299 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1682.4690 (pause 0.65) 1683.1172 1300 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1683.1172 uh 1683.6767 1301 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1683.6767 (pause 0.19) 1683.8679 1302 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1683.8679 where the teacher could become impatient with a child, you see. 1686.5336 1303 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1686.5336 (pause 0.30) 1686.8367 1304 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1686.8367 He's working his- 1687.6904 1305 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1687.6904 (pause 0.32) 1688.0075 1306 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1688.0075 she's working her tongue off to teach him something, 1689.8074 1307 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1689.8074 (pause 0.70) 1690.5068 1308 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1690.5068 and he goes home and doesn't study. 1692.2321 1309 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1692.2321 (pause 2.19) 1694.4236 1310 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1694.4236 And uh, 1695.1735 1311 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1695.1735 (pause 0.28) 1695.4509 1312 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1695.4509 while she's teaching something, he's playing. 1697.4327 1313 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1697.4327 (pause 1.13) 1698.5658 1314 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1698.5658 See the- the- that would work on anybody's patience, whether you are a teacher or a nun, whoever you might be, 1703.2753 1315 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1703.2753 (pause 0.68) 1703.9551 1316 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1703.9551 you see.. 1704.2908 1317 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1704.2908 (pause 1.27) 1705.5603 1318 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1705.5603 And so 1706.1245 1319 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1706.1245 (pause 1.40) 1707.5234 1320 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1707.5234 uh, yeah- there were problems in those days, a lot of them. 1711.5040 1321 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1711.5040 (pause 0.81) 1712.3154 1322 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1712.3154 A lot of problems in those days. 1713.8215 1323 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1713.8215 (pause 3.56) 1717.3841 1324 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1717.3841 The environment wasn't- huh? 1718.5032 1325 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1718.5032 (pause 0.46) 1718.9680 1326 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1718.9680 The environment wasn't as free then as it was now. There was so much suppression at that time, you see, that uh, 1724.1765 1327 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1724.1765 (pause 0.78) 1724.9553 1328 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1724.9553 that weighed on people's minds and on their lives that uh 1727.4313 1329 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1727.4313 (pause 3.51) 1730.9364 1330 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1730.9364 uh, 1731.5099 1331 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1731.5099 (pause 1.43) 1732.9446 1332 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1732.9446 you'd have to f- 1733.5648 1333 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1733.5648 (pause 1.09) 1734.6590 1334 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1734.6590 f- 1734.8769 1335 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1734.8769 (pause 0.64) 1735.5154 1336 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1735.5154 find this 1736.2739 1337 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1736.2739 (pause 0.22) 1736.4963 1338 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1736.4963 smooth airs of- of- smooth running yous- for yourself, you see. 1739.5225 1339 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1739.5225 (pause 0.83) 1740.3572 1340 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1740.3572 And then there is, I guess there are some who 1742.5270 1341 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1742.5270 (pause 2.90) 1745.4275 1342 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1745.4275 uh 1746.2808 1343 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1746.2808 (pause 1.14) 1747.4186 1344 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1747.4186 children that adjusted easily 1748.9014 1345 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1748.9014 (pause 0.76) 1749.6646 1346 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1749.6646 to situations. 1750.6112 1347 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1750.6112 (pause 0.24) 1750.8470 1348 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1750.8470 What- there weren't too many- as- as many I don't think as there are now days. 1753.8919 1349 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1753.8919 (pause 0.24) 1754.1362 1350 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1754.1362 Well, I don't know, I take that back because 1756.0912 1351 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1756.0912 (pause 0.71) 1756.8053 1352 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1756.8053 we are having a lot of trouble nowadays s- 1758.5352 1353 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1758.5352 (pause 0.30) 1758.8383 1354 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1758.8383 with the, 1759.4911 1355 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1759.4911 (pause 0.78) 1760.2698 1356 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1760.2698 not so much with the smaller children I don't think, but the- the larger ones, 1763.0661 1357 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1763.0661 (pause 1.07) 1764.1409 1358 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1764.1409 with teenagers and what not. 1765.3439 1359 DCA_int_01 1768.0335 You think chan- 1768.6023 1360 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1768.6023 But we had our problems though, you d- don't you forget that. We had uh plenty of them. 1772.2301 1361 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1772.6334 As a matter of fact- and I think they're worse than they are today. Many people say that the problems today are 1776.5969 1362 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1776.5969 (pause 0.83) 1777.4292 1363 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1777.4292 are worse now. Maybe in some areas they are pretty bad 1779.9075 1364 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1779.9075 (pause 0.75) 1780.6536 1365 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1780.6536 but I don't think they are as ba- I know they're not as bad 1782.7042 1366 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1782.7042 (pause 0.22) 1782.9193 1367 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1782.9193 anywhere, 1783.4520 1368 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1783.4520 (pause 0.21) 1783.6622 1369 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1783.6622 even in the deep south, as they were those days, 1785.8092 1370 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1785.8092 (pause 0.10) 1785.9105 1371 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1785.9105 uh 1786.2721 1372 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1786.2721 (pause 0.22) 1786.4950 1373 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1786.4950 back in those days. 1787.4104 1374 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1787.4104 (pause 1.51) 1788.9220 1375 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1788.9220 Uh 1789.3324 1376 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1789.3324 (pause 0.96) 1790.2929 1377 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1790.2929 you s- read in the papers this- this morning where 1792.4309 1378 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1792.4309 (pause 0.59) 1793.0184 1379 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1793.0184 uh 1793.4754 1380 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1793.4754 (pause 2.64) 1796.1180 1381 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1796.1180 sixteen white men were 1797.5729 1382 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1797.5729 (pause 0.83) 1798.4029 1383 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1798.4029 indicted 1798.9904 1384 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1798.9904 (pause 0.69) 1799.6805 1385 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1799.6805 for killing a Negro in Mississippi. 1801.0234 1386 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1801.0234 (pause 0.95) 1801.9700 1387 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1801.9700 You hear that [in those days.] 1803.0984 1388 DCA_int_01 1802.4615 [/unintelligible/] 1803.4850 1389 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1803.3502 [No], no indeed, you didn't /think that/ /you would've/- 1806.6702 1390 DCA_int_01 1806.6608 /unintelligible/ 1807.2577 1391 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1807.2518 Oh, that's right. 1808.6006 1392 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1808.9036 No, you'd hear for that in those days. 1810.2867 1393 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1810.2867 (pause 0.37) 1810.6565 1394 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1810.6565 And I mean there's a lot of- a lot of attached to that. I mean that uh 1813.4295 1395 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1813.4295 (pause 0.77) 1814.1957 1396 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1814.1957 uh the uh, 1815.1049 1397 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1815.1049 (pause 0.54) 1815.6472 1398 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1815.6472 certain people could do no wrong, 1817.6662 1399 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1817.6662 (pause 1.06) 1818.7247 1400 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1818.7247 and- and uh /the others/- 1820.2589 1401 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1820.2589 (pause 0.18) 1820.4414 1402 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1820.4414 everybody was wrong. 1821.5192 1403 DCA_int_01 1825.5328 Do you think things are changing then or? 1827.3560 1404 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1828.3119 Oh yes, definitely so, definitely so. People- they- maybe- are they aren't changing fast enough for the number of people that we have on our hands. I mean 1834.4471 1405 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1834.4471 (pause 0.44) 1834.8901 1406 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1834.8901 and uh, for instance, like uh, 1836.9592 1407 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1836.9592 (pause 1.83) 1838.7918 1408 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1838.7918 you see we have 1839.6124 1409 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1839.6124 (pause 0.35) 1839.9621 1410 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1839.9621 so many 1840.5963 1411 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1840.5963 (pause 1.45) 1842.0453 1412 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1842.0453 uh 1842.7681 1413 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1842.7681 (pause 0.44) 1843.2064 1414 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1843.2064 people um, both Negroes and whites who are migrating from the south. 1846.5124 1415 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1846.5124 (pause 0.86) 1847.3739 1416 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1847.3739 Mostly Negroes 1848.2790 1417 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1848.2790 (pause 0.45) 1848.7308 1418 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1848.7308 because of- they're chased from the farms, and 1850.9689 1419 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1850.9689 (pause 0.60) 1851.5705 1420 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1851.5705 because there- there's no food for 'em to eat, 1853.4306 1421 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1853.4306 (pause 0.20) 1853.6265 1422 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1853.6265 and out of the S- S- States, and of course there are in the States, 1857.7940 1423 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1857.7940 (pause 0.97) 1858.7638 1424 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1858.7638 uh there are still a lot of prejudices in the States, not only in the South, in the North too you see. 1862.7178 1425 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1862.7178 (pause 0.28) 1863.0013 1426 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1863.0013 And they- and uh 1864.0717 1427 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1864.0717 (pause 0.82) 1864.8897 1428 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1864.8897 it's 1865.0949 1429 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1865.0949 (pause 0.33) 1865.4213 1430 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1865.4213 taking its toll- it's showing itself now. 1867.0906 1431 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1867.0906 (pause 0.26) 1867.3471 1432 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1867.3471 Especially with the uh, I was reading the paper this morning about 1870.4235 1433 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1870.4235 (pause 0.41) 1870.8385 1434 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1870.8385 where the white people are moving to the suburbs, you see. 1873.1839 1435 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1873.1839 (pause 0.66) 1873.8460 1436 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1873.8460 And what they- creating a 1875.1878 1437 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1875.1878 (pause 0.60) 1875.7846 1438 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1875.7846 se- segregated city- city pattern, you see. 1878.1954 1439 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1878.1954 (pause 0.87) 1879.0673 1440 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1879.0673 Which 1879.4197 1441 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1879.4197 (pause 1.44) 1880.8614 1442 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1880.8614 there's no st- there are no steps being taken to correct these things as they come up. 1884.2093 1443 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1884.2093 (pause 0.78) 1884.9880 1444 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1884.9880 But the 1886.3671 1445 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1886.3671 (pause 0.90) 1887.2624 1446 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1887.2624 Look Magazine 1888.4934 1447 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1888.4934 (pause 2.13) 1890.6232 1448 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1890.6232 had this 1891.1921 1449 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1891.1921 (pause 1.90) 1893.0899 1450 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1893.0899 uh, has an article in it and uh, 1895.4167 1451 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1895.4167 (pause 1.83) 1897.2492 1452 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1897.2492 it's an interesting article 1898.5070 1453 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1898.5070 (pause 1.86) 1900.3675 1454 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1900.3675 on s- 1901.2301 1455 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1901.2301 (pause 3.99) 1905.2251 1456 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1905.2251 suburbia, 1906.1763 1457 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1906.1763 (pause 1.44) 1907.6172 1458 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1907.6172 and uh, 1908.3819 1459 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1908.3819 (pause 2.40) 1910.7821 1460 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1910.7821 and they have a seem- they seem to have a- they're trying to solve the- 1913.8550 1461 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1913.8550 (pause 0.84) 1914.6943 1462 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1914.6943 Yes, it's the- the title of it is Scarsdale. Sc- sc- the scene is laid in Scarsdale, New York, 1919.0716 1463 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1919.0716 (pause 1.00) 1920.0695 1464 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1920.0695 and uh, 1920.6010 1465 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1920.6010 (pause 1.19) 1921.7947 1466 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1921.7947 and it's in title, uh, New Role for Suburban Schools. 1924.9364 1467 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1924.9364 (pause 1.62) 1926.5591 1468 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1926.5591 And uh 1927.3564 1469 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1927.3564 (pause 1.74) 1929.0992 1470 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1929.0992 they think that 1929.8919 1471 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1929.8919 (pause 1.30) 1931.1928 1472 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1931.1928 if 1931.4959 1473 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1931.4959 (pause 0.65) 1932.1441 1474 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1932.1441 they can get the 1933.5569 1475 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1933.5569 (pause 2.17) 1935.7240 1476 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1935.7240 people to keep- to keep cool and remain where they are- stop- st- to stop keep running 1940.1853 1477 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1940.1853 (pause 0.37) 1940.5536 1478 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1940.5536 because a Negro moves in- into the neighborhood. 1942.5680 1479 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1942.5680 (pause 1.27) 1943.8337 1480 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1943.8337 Uh 1944.2673 1481 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1944.2673 (pause 0.83) 1945.0927 1482 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1945.0927 they could [do] 1945.7379 1483 DCA_int_01 1945.4063 [/unintelligible/] 1946.5008 1484 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1946.2182 [they-] do away with that, but see the thing of it is, uh, 1949.0672 1485 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1950.0418 but see- but see they are pressured also by their, not only by their own fears, 1954.5920 1486 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1954.5920 (pause 0.96) 1955.5477 1487 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1955.5477 but also by- 1956.3031 1488 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1956.3031 (pause 0.25) 1956.5549 1489 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1956.5549 by real estate lobby, 1957.5808 1490 DCA_int_01 1957.8419 Mm-hm. 1958.3968 1491 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1958.5646 you see. 1959.0962 1492 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1959.0962 (pause 0.59) 1959.6884 1493 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1959.6884 They're interested in making a lot of money and building up new towns, 1962.6274 1494 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1962.6274 (pause 0.78) 1963.4082 1495 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1963.4082 and uh 1964.0610 1496 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1964.0610 (pause 0.53) 1964.5926 1497 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1964.5926 if they could- if uh, they might- it might get to the point where they'll have to 1968.2389 1498 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1968.2389 (pause 0.49) 1968.7285 1499 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1968.7285 adopt 1969.3909 1500 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1969.3909 (pause 0.68) 1970.0708 1501 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1970.0708 laws 1970.8401 1502 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1970.8401 (pause 0.33) 1971.1665 1503 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1971.1665 in certain states 1972.2716 1504 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1972.2716 (pause 0.72) 1972.9897 1505 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1972.9897 to curb the real estate lobby 1974.2895 1506 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1974.2895 (pause 1.46) 1975.7490 1507 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1975.7490 uh 1976.3552 1508 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1976.3552 (pause 0.33) 1976.6816 1509 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1976.6816 from 1977.0406 1510 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1977.0406 (pause 1.19) 1978.2343 1511 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1978.2343 pushing the white people 1979.6414 1512 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1979.6414 (pause 0.83) 1980.4760 1513 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1980.4760 uh 1981.0123 1514 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1981.0123 (pause 1.20) 1982.2153 1515 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1982.2153 out into the uh, 1983.4137 1516 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1983.4137 (pause 0.53) 1983.9452 1517 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1983.9452 further into the suburbia, you see 1985.9725 1518 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1985.9725 (pause 0.50) 1986.4760 1519 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1986.4760 because of fears of their property running down because a Negro m- moves next to him. 1990.3696 1520 DCA_int_01 1990.8102 Mm-hm. 1991.2004 1521 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1992.0063 And it's one of those things of course, and- 1994.9456 1522 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1994.9456 (pause 0.39) 1995.3326 1523 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1995.3326 and uh 1996.0507 1524 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1996.0507 (pause 1.40) 1997.4531 1525 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1997.4531 I don't know how they gonna do it, 1998.5163 1526 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1998.5163 (pause 0.35) 1998.8613 1527 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1998.8613 but uh 1999.4209 1528 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 1999.4209 (pause 0.61) 2000.0270 1529 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2000.0270 it should come to a stand still somewhere that is. It's not as bad as- I mean whenever 2004.1992 1530 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2004.1992 (pause 0.52) 2004.7168 1531 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2004.7168 people uh 2005.3509 1532 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2005.3509 (pause 0.53) 2005.8778 1533 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2005.8778 like that are into insecure of situations like that you know. 2009.2631 1534 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2009.2631 (pause 0.55) 2009.8168 1535 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2009.8168 Uh 2010.3157 1536 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2010.3157 (pause 0.98) 2011.2996 1537 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2011.2996 it's like a 2012.1296 1538 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2012.1296 (pause 3.74) 2015.8736 1539 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2015.8736 sort of a chain reaction 2017.2903 1540 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2017.2903 (pause 0.30) 2017.5887 1541 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2017.5887 like you know. 2018.3628 1542 DCA_int_01 2019.3047 Right, I could tell you stories about that. 2021.0160 1543 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2021.0160 Yeah, 2022.2645 1544 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2023.2716 because you- you can suppose- uh uh uh course you're a w- uh, 2026.7269 1545 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2026.7269 (pause 1.42) 2028.1432 1546 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2028.1432 suppose um, 2029.0199 1547 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2029.0199 (pause 0.32) 2029.3442 1548 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2029.3442 they don't look at it this way, suppose 2031.1321 1549 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2031.1321 (pause 0.94) 2032.0694 1550 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2032.0694 there is a Negro in the neighborhood 2033.7888 1551 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2033.7888 (pause 0.45) 2034.2430 1552 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2034.2430 he gonna move in, and it could be a- a well adjusted person for the neighborhood, 2037.2207 1553 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2037.2207 (pause 0.35) 2037.5751 1554 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2037.5751 but they all white, 2038.4424 1555 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2038.4424 (pause 0.33) 2038.7723 1556 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2038.7723 you see. 2039.2433 1557 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2039.2433 (pause 1.39) 2040.6328 1558 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2040.6328 And uh 2041.2483 1559 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2041.2483 (pause 0.48) 2041.7239 1560 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2041.7239 he wants to buy a house in that neighborhood. 2043.7523 1561 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2043.7523 (pause 1.80) 2045.5557 1562 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2045.5557 He's got the papers for it, but 2046.9499 1563 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2046.9499 (pause 0.47) 2047.4209 1564 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2047.4209 things become so unpleasant before he moves in, he decides to not move into the house. 2050.8965 1565 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2050.8965 (pause 1.34) 2052.2318 1566 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2052.2318 The house is sold to a white person, 2053.7110 1567 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2053.7110 (pause 1.78) 2055.4912 1568 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2055.4912 who- who does not adopt 2057.2077 1569 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2057.2077 (pause 0.26) 2057.4688 1570 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2057.4688 a- adopt 2058.2452 1571 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2058.2452 (pause 1.55) 2059.7997 1572 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2059.7997 adapt well to the neighborhood, 2061.4597 1573 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2061.4597 (pause 0.51) 2061.9656 1574 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2061.9656 you see. 2062.4132 1575 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2062.4132 (pause 0.78) 2063.1919 1576 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2063.1919 He could be more trouble- 2064.2399 1577 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2064.2399 (pause 0.13) 2064.3705 1578 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2064.3705 trouble to the neigh- the- the- neighbors then that Nigger- Negro that they chased out of there, you see. 2068.3106 1579 DCA_int_01 2068.4254 /inaudible/ 2069.2374 1580 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2069.2339 And uh, 2069.6769 1581 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2069.9975 course they'd rather take a chance on the white person than the Negro. 2073.4946 1582 DCA_int_01 2073.6252 /I see/. 2074.1661 1583 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2074.1661 But of course the thing of it is , 2075.7468 1584 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2076.5617 a Negro moving into a neighborhood, 2078.1564 1585 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2078.1564 (pause 0.61) 2078.7672 1586 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2078.7672 he's got be on his P's and Q's you see. He's gonna be on his P's and Q's. He's not gonna 2082.6893 1587 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2082.6893 (pause 0.24) 2082.9318 1588 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2082.9318 do anything that would ruin his reputation with h- his neighbors. 2085.7890 1589 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2085.7890 (pause 1.71) 2087.5003 1590 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2087.5003 Not as soon as the- the white person's moving in. 2089.9809 1591 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2089.9809 (pause 1.09) 2091.0662 1592 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2091.0662 But course people can't see that. I mean it's- it's the one of those things that- where prejudice has uh, 2095.6732 1593 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2095.6732 (pause 1.09) 2096.7596 1594 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2096.7596 has 2097.1675 1595 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2097.1675 (pause 0.29) 2097.4607 1596 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2097.4607 taken its toll. 2098.4627 1597 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2098.4627 (pause 1.02) 2099.4816 1598 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2099.4816 It's- 2099.8593 1599 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2099.8593 (pause 0.79) 2100.6474 1600 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2100.6474 it's 2100.9598 1601 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2100.9598 (pause 0.26) 2101.2162 1602 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2101.2162 there, and it's hard to remove. 2102.6431 1603 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2102.6431 (pause 1.33) 2103.9755 1604 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2103.9755 What you going to do about it? 2106.2370 1605 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2106.2370 (pause 0.73) 2106.9695 1606 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2106.9695 So it hasn't- what have to be done about it? /Nothing/. And the Look magazine has a ver- very good article in there I think on that. 2112.3258 1607 DCA_int_01 2113.8634 I'll have to get that. 2114.7960 1608 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2114.9592 Mm-hm. 2116.2135 1609 DCA_int_01 2117.0249 You know the- can you remember the best teacher you ever had or a real good teacher you had? 2121.4405 1610 DCA_int_01 2121.4405 (pause 1.49) 2122.9268 1611 DCA_int_01 2122.9268 What she was like? 2123.7382 1612 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2125.9157 Now you talking as a- in grade s- grade school /you talking, or/? 2128.8532 1613 DCA_int_01 2128.8532 In high [school or- or even] college. 2131.3103 1614 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2129.2869 [In] high school or college? 2130.4899 1615 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2131.5390 Well, I've had a lot of good teachers. 2132.7980 1616 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2132.7980 (pause 0.54) 2133.3331 1617 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2133.3331 A lot of them. I've had more good teachers than I've had bad teachers. 2135.7065 1618 DCA_int_01 2136.0283 Well that's good. 2136.6602 1619 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2136.7510 Oh yes, I mean 2137.7395 1620 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2137.7395 (pause 0.35) 2138.0846 1621 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2138.0846 /although/ I've- a- as a matter of fact, I don't 2140.6993 1622 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2140.6993 (pause 2.86) 2143.5624 1623 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2143.5624 recall 2144.3877 1624 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2144.3877 (pause 0.55) 2144.9368 1625 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2144.9368 having a- what I would call a bad teacher til I got high- to high school. 2148.3500 1626 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2148.3500 (pause 1.87) 2150.2187 1627 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2150.2187 And that was in- that was only in English. 2152.7180 1628 DCA_int_01 2153.3661 Hm. 2153.5387 1629 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2156.2979 Uh, 2156.8435 1630 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2156.8435 (pause 0.73) 2157.5709 1631 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2157.5709 then I had 2158.4662 1632 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2158.4662 (pause 1.43) 2159.8930 1633 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2159.8930 a teacher 2160.6857 1634 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2160.6857 (pause 1.02) 2161.7022 1635 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2161.7022 when I was in college 2162.7969 1636 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2162.7969 (pause 2.59) 2165.3894 1637 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2165.3894 that I didn't think much of him as a teacher, 2166.9748 1638 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2166.9748 (pause 0.43) 2167.4085 1639 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2167.4085 but he could- 2168.0333 1640 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2168.0333 (pause 0.33) 2168.3597 1641 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2168.3597 he could be good at times, but for the most part, 2171.2962 1642 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2171.2962 (pause 0.58) 2171.8790 1643 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2171.8790 I didn't think much of him as a teacher. His- his uh 2174.4588 1644 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2174.4588 (pause 0.51) 2174.9671 1645 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2174.9671 way he put his subject over to me was a dry 2177.2056 1646 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2177.2056 (pause 0.24) 2177.4501 1647 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2177.4501 s- uh uh a dry method. 2179.4831 1648 DCA_int_01 2179.7924 Mm-hm. 2180.1978 1649 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2180.2198 And sin- incidentally, it was in my field, too. 2182.2703 1650 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2182.2703 (pause 0.22) 2182.4882 1651 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2182.4882 So uh 2183.0354 1652 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2183.0354 (pause 0.87) 2183.9024 1653 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2183.9024 I didn't th- think much of him. 2185.0354 1654 DCA_int_01 2185.3199 Hm. 2185.5250 1655 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2186.4705 He was a PhD from Yale. 2188.2284 1656 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2188.2284 (pause 0.95) 2189.1749 1657 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2189.1749 But I didn't think much of him as teacher. 2191.0401 1658 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2191.0401 (pause 0.35) 2191.3939 1659 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2191.3939 But I had others, 2192.1032 1660 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2192.1032 (pause 0.60) 2192.7036 1661 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2192.7036 and of course that can show up, because uh 2195.2729 1662 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2195.2729 (pause 0.41) 2195.6832 1663 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2195.6832 from some other teachers that you've had, and to you, 2198.0147 1664 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2198.0147 (pause 0.54) 2198.5591 1665 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2198.5591 who were more effective 2200.0092 1666 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2200.0092 (pause 0.48) 2200.4942 1667 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2200.4942 as teachers, you see. 2201.5041 1668 DCA_int_01 2206.9632 Is there a group of people that you would associate with? 2209.5884 1669 DCA_int_01 2209.5884 (pause 1.14) 2210.7308 1670 DCA_int_01 2210.7308 Either as a kid or when you were in college, high school? A particular group of 2214.7752 1671 DCA_int_01 2214.7752 (pause 0.39) 2215.1692 1672 DCA_int_01 2215.1692 people? 2215.6192 1673 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2215.9497 That - 2216.2294 1674 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2216.2294 (pause 0.26) 2216.4906 1675 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2216.4906 that I associated with? 2217.6096 1676 DCA_int_01 2217.6703 Yeah that was sort of your group, 2219.1327 1677 DCA_int_01 2219.1327 (pause 0.44) 2219.5678 1678 DCA_int_01 2219.5678 your 2220.0606 1679 DCA_int_01 2220.0606 (pause 0.84) 2220.9056 1680 DCA_int_01 2220.9056 bunch or something like that. 2222.2238 1681 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2223.4414 Well 2223.8978 1682 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2223.8978 (pause 0.24) 2224.1333 1683 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2224.1333 mainly my, ah, fraternity brothers. 2226.3622 1684 DCA_int_01 2227.0167 Mm-hm. 2227.3804 1685 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2228.3340 Oh there is anoth- there was another group, too. 2230.3734 1686 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2230.3734 (pause 0.28) 2230.6485 1687 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2230.6485 There was a group of uh uh- 2232.0474 1688 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2232.0474 (pause 0.88) 2232.9310 1689 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2232.9310 there was a 2233.3968 1690 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2233.3968 (pause 0.79) 2234.1871 1691 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2234.1871 a girls club 2235.2596 1692 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2235.2596 (pause 0.33) 2235.5877 1693 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2235.5877 in the school. We used to go around with them. 2237.4226 1694 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2237.4226 (pause 0.67) 2238.0917 1695 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2238.0917 I mean ah, 2238.7282 1696 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2238.7282 (pause 1.34) 2240.0682 1697 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2240.0682 it wasn't a sister club to the fra- fraternity at all, 2242.3867 1698 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2242.3867 (pause 0.46) 2242.8507 1699 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2242.8507 but it was uh, 2244.3731 1700 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2244.3731 (pause 0.27) 2244.6383 1701 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2244.6383 a group that uh, you know how you have parties together, you know, like that you know. There was more in there. 2249.1014 1702 DCA_int_01 2250.5545 When you were a little kid was there a group, or-? 2252.5438 1703 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2253.2783 Not particularly, no. 2254.5885 1704 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2254.5885 (pause 0.29) 2254.8776 1705 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2254.8776 Only neighborhood kids, that's all. 2256.7236 1706 DCA_int_01 2259.1285 In- in uh 2259.9538 1707 DCA_int_01 2259.9538 (pause 0.44) 2260.3956 1708 DCA_int_01 2260.3956 this group when you were older, was there anybody who spoke a foreign language? 2263.6690 1709 DCA_int_01 2263.6690 (pause 2.58) 2266.2464 1710 DCA_int_01 2266.2464 In the group? 2266.7407 1711 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2267.4401 Well, there were 2268.0230 1712 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2268.0230 (pause 0.45) 2268.4706 1713 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2268.4706 uh, well there were several uh, couple of them there who's- who was- who- who were uh, who were studying French. 2273.9903 1714 DCA_int_01 2274.4613 Mm-hm. 2274.9276 1715 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2274.9369 They sp- 2275.4280 1716 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2275.4280 (pause 0.69) 2276.1213 1717 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2276.1213 spoke it pretty 2276.9093 1718 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2276.9093 (pause 0.28) 2277.1844 1719 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2277.1844 pretty good. 2277.8232 1720 DCA_int_01 2278.2697 [How] about as their native language? I mean their- 2280.1302 1721 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2278.4049 [P]- 2278.5821 1722 DCA_int_01 2281.3845 their mother tongue was French? 2283.2357 1723 DCA_int_01 2283.2357 (pause 0.35) 2283.5901 1724 DCA_int_01 2283.5901 Were any of 'em like that? 2284.6800 1725 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2286.2748 I don't recall any 2287.7436 1726 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2287.7436 (pause 0.83) 2288.5736 1727 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2288.5736 who were 2289.2497 1728 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2289.2497 (pause 0.20) 2289.4455 1729 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2289.4455 foreigners. 2290.0237 1730 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2290.0237 (pause 0.19) 2290.2138 1731 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2290.2138 Foreigners. 2290.6241 1732 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2290.6241 (pause 4.49) 2295.1098 1733 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2295.1098 Hm. 2295.4782 1734 DCA_int_01 2296.9505 Were there any white people in the group? 2298.3447 1735 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2299.7902 No, at that time Howard didn't have too many white 2301.9538 1736 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2301.9538 (pause 0.26) 2302.2184 1737 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2302.2184 at that time we had a- now and then, you see one, but 2304.2497 1738 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2304.2497 (pause 0.19) 2304.4403 1739 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2304.4403 not too often. 2305.1734 1740 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2305.1734 (pause 0.36) 2305.5291 1741 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2305.5291 The mainly uh the main 2307.2497 1742 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2307.2497 (pause 0.27) 2307.5155 1743 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2307.5155 uh, you- you usually saw the white 2309.2163 1744 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2309.2163 (pause 0.24) 2309.4588 1745 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2309.4588 uh 2309.7012 1746 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2309.7012 (pause 0.29) 2309.9903 1747 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2309.9903 kids at Howard then at the Medical School, 2312.3264 1748 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2312.3264 (pause 0.83) 2313.1523 1749 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2313.1523 at uh 2313.7258 1750 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2313.7258 (pause 0.21) 2313.9403 1751 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2313.9403 but uh 2314.4532 1752 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2314.4532 (pause 1.11) 2315.5583 1753 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2315.5583 I'd never- you don't come- didn't come across many of [them] 2318.6871 1754 DCA_int_01 2318.4074 [Uh-hum.] 2318.6871 1755 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2318.9331 yeah, in the undergraduate's 2320.2085 1756 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2320.2085 (pause 0.14) 2320.3506 1757 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2320.3506 work at that time. Now there are a lot of them up there, but uh 2322.5888 1758 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2322.5888 (pause 0.76) 2323.3535 1759 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2323.3535 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-7/. 2324.2488 1760 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2324.2488 (pause 0.79) 2325.0369 1761 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2325.0369 And uh 2325.5906 1762 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2325.5906 (pause 1.30) 2326.8869 1763 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2326.8869 there weren't ma- there weren't many there at that time. 2328.7893 1764 DCA_int_01 2330.7384 Do ever see any of those people anymore? 2332.4439 1765 DCA_int_01 2332.4439 (pause 2.70) 2335.1437 1766 DCA_int_01 2335.1437 Or not? 2335.6566 1767 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2336.1369 Yes, I see them. One goes to my church was in sch- that was in school as we- also one of my frat brothers. 2340.3930 1768 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2340.3930 (pause 0.18) 2340.5702 1769 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2340.5702 Goes to my church now and uh 2341.7266 1770 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2341.7266 (pause 0.71) 2342.4400 1771 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2342.4400 as a matter of fact uh, I went back to my fraternity the other day here. Cause I s- I see some of the fellas, 2347.1064 1772 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2347.1064 (pause 0.71) 2347.8198 1773 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2347.8198 uh 2348.1136 1774 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2348.1136 (pause 0.29) 2348.4074 1775 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2348.4074 quite often. 2348.8970 1776 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2348.8970 (pause 0.73) 2349.6232 1777 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2349.6232 Old frat, but a lot of them are dead. 2351.0967 1778 DCA_int_01 2355.4880 Hm, sad /unintelligible/. 2357.8801 1779 DCA_int_01 2357.8801 (pause 0.70) 2358.5842 1780 DCA_int_01 2358.5842 Let's see, in that group, uh, 2360.2721 1781 DCA_int_01 2360.2721 (pause 0.72) 2360.9902 1782 DCA_int_01 2360.9902 is there any group today that you 2363.1806 1783 DCA_int_01 2363.1806 (pause 0.41) 2363.5956 1784 DCA_int_01 2363.5956 call your special close friends 2365.3908 1785 DCA_int_01 2365.3908 (pause 0.30) 2365.6898 1786 DCA_int_01 2365.6898 especially? 2366.2168 1787 DCA_int_01 2366.2168 (pause 2.13) 2368.3506 1788 DCA_int_01 2368.3506 Or 2368.7703 1789 DCA_int_01 2368.7703 (pause 0.42) 2369.1946 1790 DCA_int_01 2369.1946 not in particular? 2370.2065 1791 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2372.5519 I guess the uh 2373.4274 1792 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2373.4274 (pause 0.51) 2373.9356 1793 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2373.9356 for a group, 2374.9195 1794 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2374.9195 (pause 3.96) 2378.8830 1795 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2378.8830 the main ones that I would find who- that I'm closer to as- as a group now, 2382.6728 1796 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2382.6728 (pause 1.08) 2383.7546 1797 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2383.7546 is the social club that I belong to. 2385.4320 1798 DCA_int_01 2385.8610 Oh? 2386.3320 1799 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2386.8029 It's called the /RD-WORK-3/ 2387.8474 1800 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2387.8474 (pause 0.47) 2388.3137 1801 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2388.3137 /RD-WORD-3/ 2388.7893 1802 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2388.7893 (pause 0.97) 2389.7592 1803 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2389.7592 Club. 2390.0250 1804 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2390.0250 (pause 1.37) 2391.3901 1805 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2391.3901 There are more in that group, and of course there's quite a few 2393.8568 1806 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2393.8568 (pause 0.26) 2394.1132 1807 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2394.1132 who were in school with me at the time, too. And uh, and I've met 2396.8597 1808 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2396.8597 (pause 1.66) 2398.5185 1809 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2398.5185 uh 2398.8356 1810 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2398.8356 (pause 0.41) 2399.2506 1811 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2399.2506 got- become acquainted with subse- 2400.4256 1812 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2400.4256 (pause 0.25) 2400.6728 1813 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2400.6728 subsequent who might join the club and also uh 2403.1301 1814 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2403.1301 (pause 3.83) 2406.9572 1815 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2406.9572 people who uh, 2407.8338 1816 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2407.8338 (pause 0.47) 2408.3048 1817 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2408.3048 just Washington citizens belong to the club, you see. 2410.4999 1818 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2410.4999 (pause 1.36) 2411.8614 1819 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2411.8614 My social club is but the main one I /guess/- I think that, uh, 2414.6778 1820 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2414.6778 (pause 0.55) 2415.2315 1821 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2415.2315 that I know most of fellas in there. 2417.0128 1822 DCA_int_01 2417.3298 Is there one person 2418.5096 1823 DCA_int_01 2418.5096 (pause 0.48) 2418.9945 1824 DCA_int_01 2418.9945 among them that everybody looks to as the leader? 2421.4565 1825 DCA_int_01 2421.4565 (pause 0.88) 2422.3413 1826 DCA_int_01 2422.3413 Sort of? 2422.5884 1827 DCA_int_01 2422.5884 (pause 1.48) 2424.0685 1828 DCA_int_01 2424.0685 [/inaudible/] 2425.1377 1829 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2424.6308 [Yes], uh, we had a secretary in there. 2427.3866 1830 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2428.2714 Uh, he was secretary for a long time. 2430.6681 1831 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2430.6681 (pause 0.87) 2431.5406 1832 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2431.5406 And uh 2432.2680 1833 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2432.2680 (pause 1.19) 2433.4617 1834 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2433.4617 he 2434.0773 1835 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2434.0773 (pause 0.76) 2434.8362 1836 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2434.8362 was well acquainted with the- 2435.9599 1837 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2435.9599 (pause 0.31) 2436.2723 1838 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2436.2723 way the club operated 2437.3774 1839 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2437.3774 (pause 0.51) 2437.8904 1840 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2437.8904 with the constitution by- the constitution and bylaws. 2440.5711 1841 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2440.5711 (pause 1.22) 2441.7881 1842 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2441.7881 And of course, uh 2443.3175 1843 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2443.3175 (pause 0.90) 2444.2210 1844 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2444.2210 he was very effective in 2445.7364 1845 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2445.7364 (pause 0.59) 2446.3286 1846 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2446.3286 keeping the club together, keeping you on the move. Gave it a sort of a 2449.1496 1847 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2449.1496 (pause 0.36) 2449.5075 1848 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2449.5075 dynamic atmosphere, you see. He- he was good at that, and 2452.5198 1849 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2452.5198 (pause 0.25) 2452.7716 1850 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2452.7716 he's still with us, 2453.6600 1851 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2453.6600 (pause 0.57) 2454.2264 1852 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2454.2264 but he doesn't function at the- as the secretary because 2457.0416 1853 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2457.0416 (pause 1.06) 2458.1001 1854 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2458.1001 uh, his work 2459.4197 1855 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2459.4197 (pause 0.81) 2460.2311 1856 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2460.2311 with the post office 2461.3356 1857 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2461.3356 (pause 1.28) 2462.6126 1858 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2462.6126 keeps him going from one city to the other. 2464.4871 1859 DCA_int_01 2464.6736 Oh. 2464.9301 1860 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2465.1912 And that's why he can't function so very well as a secretary anymore. 2468.2070 1861 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2468.2070 (pause 0.57) 2468.7758 1862 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2468.7758 But when they- and whenever anyone wants any special advice, 2471.6529 1863 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2471.6529 (pause 1.11) 2472.7626 1864 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2472.7626 uh they don't hesitate to call him. 2474.6406 1865 DCA_int_01 2474.7867 Mm-hm. 2475.1870 1866 DCA_int_01 2475.1870 (pause 1.07) 2476.2586 1867 DCA_int_01 2476.2586 What would you say there is about him that makes people turn to him? 2479.2382 1868 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2480.1341 Well, some total of a lot of things 2482.1496 1869 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2482.1496 (pause 1.30) 2483.4494 1870 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2483.4494 that go 2484.3401 1871 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2484.3401 (pause 0.79) 2485.1328 1872 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2485.1328 with a person 2486.0886 1873 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2486.0886 (pause 0.93) 2487.0166 1874 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2487.0166 who is a leader. 2487.6694 1875 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2487.6694 (pause 2.45) 2490.1209 1876 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2490.1209 His appearance, his bearing, his talk, 2492.1166 1877 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2492.1166 (pause 0.83) 2492.9513 1878 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2492.9513 knowledge of the club. 2493.9538 1879 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2493.9538 (pause 2.40) 2496.3494 1880 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2496.3494 His working- his uh, long time working with the club, his intelligence. 2500.0471 1881 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2500.0471 (pause 2.74) 2502.7877 1882 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2502.7877 Uh 2503.2540 1883 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2503.2540 (pause 3.80) 2507.0531 1884 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2507.0531 he knows the club. He's- he- he knows the history of the club very well. 2510.2192 1885 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2510.2192 (pause 1.70) 2511.9165 1886 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2511.9165 He knows uh how to operate a club. 2513.9484 1887 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2513.9484 (pause 0.70) 2514.6478 1888 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2514.6478 I mean the things like that, you see. 2516.2938 1889 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2516.2938 (pause 1.65) 2517.9445 1890 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2517.9445 And uh 2518.6066 1891 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2518.6066 (pause 0.83) 2519.4401 1892 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2519.4401 we don't have anyone there that I can recall- 2522.0653 1893 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2522.0653 (pause 0.76) 2522.8300 1894 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2522.8300 yes, I do too. We have 2523.9290 1895 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2523.9290 (pause 1.02) 2524.9459 1896 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2524.9459 one member of the city council, belonged to the club. He- he /knew it/ very well, too. 2528.2006 1897 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2528.2006 (pause 0.87) 2529.0725 1898 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2529.0725 But uh 2529.7393 1899 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2529.7393 (pause 0.41) 2530.1496 1900 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2530.1496 this particular person 2531.3422 1901 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2531.3422 (pause 0.94) 2532.2794 1902 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2532.2794 is uh 2532.9556 1903 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2532.9556 (pause 1.70) 2534.6575 1904 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2534.6575 has a sum 2535.3756 1905 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2535.3756 (pause 0.55) 2535.9212 1906 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2535.9212 total 2536.4201 1907 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2536.4201 (pause 0.42) 2536.8386 1908 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2536.8386 of most everything 2538.0463 1909 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2538.0463 (pause 0.69) 2538.7317 1910 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2538.7317 that a person needs 2539.9068 1911 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2539.9068 (pause 0.28) 2540.1866 1912 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2540.1866 to run a club. 2541.4997 1913 DCA_int_01 2542.3910 /He really has it/. 2542.9832 1914 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2543.2583 Yes, uh-huh. 2544.0603 1915 DCA_int_01 2544.8343 How do new people get into the club? 2546.7275 1916 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2548.3257 Well, 2548.7547 1917 DCA_int_01 2549.1588 There a- 2549.5896 1918 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2549.7517 they can apply themselves or else 2552.0933 1919 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2552.0933 (pause 0.44) 2552.5363 1920 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2552.5363 the uh 2553.2124 1921 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2553.2124 (pause 1.16) 2554.3770 1922 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2554.3770 the other members can 2555.3357 1923 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2555.3357 (pause 0.27) 2555.6045 1924 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2555.6045 submit names of their friends to get into the club. 2557.8175 1925 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2557.8175 (pause 0.84) 2558.6622 1926 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2558.6622 It has a limit 2559.4082 1927 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2559.4082 (pause 0.83) 2560.2418 1928 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2560.2418 to the number that can get in. 2561.1464 1929 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2561.1464 (pause 0.49) 2561.6406 1930 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2561.6406 There's a limit to the number each year. 2563.0721 1931 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2563.0721 (pause 1.01) 2564.0840 1932 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2564.0840 So when one person drops out 2566.4423 1933 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2566.4423 (pause 1.20) 2567.6453 1934 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2567.6453 for any reason 2568.3960 1935 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2568.3960 (pause 1.51) 2569.9021 1936 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2569.9021 another- another- another one can take his place. 2572.2149 1937 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2572.2149 (pause 0.63) 2572.8479 1938 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2572.8479 But it doesn't exceed a certain number 2574.5639 1939 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2574.5639 (pause 0.18) 2574.7457 1940 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2574.7457 of persons, 2575.4338 1941 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2575.4338 (pause 0.67) 2576.1026 1942 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2576.1026 of members. 2576.7228 1943 DCA_int_01 2576.9093 Hm. 2577.0997 1944 DCA_int_01 2577.0997 (pause 1.90) 2578.9971 1945 DCA_int_01 2578.9971 Are there any Caucasians in that club? 2580.6602 1946 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2580.7411 No, there are not. 2581.4778 1947 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2581.4778 (pause 0.63) 2582.1073 1948 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2582.1073 No. 2582.3684 1949 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2582.3684 (pause 0.90) 2583.2637 1950 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2583.2637 Not that they- they- they're not barred from it. 2585.2862 1951 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2585.2862 (pause 1.18) 2586.4660 1952 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2586.4660 But it's just that- none- none of them ever joined the club. They're not barred from it though. 2590.1776 1953 DCA_int_01 2592.4333 If you could do your life over again, would you do anything different? 2595.2590 1954 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2595.5808 Haha. 2596.1310 1955 DCA_int_01 2596.1578 Now that you look back? 2597.1603 1956 DCA_int_01 2597.1603 (pause 2.18) 2599.3426 1957 DCA_int_01 2599.3426 Or would you 2599.9581 1958 DCA_int_01 2599.9581 (pause 0.53) 2600.4897 1959 DCA_int_01 2600.4897 pursue a different career or anything? 2602.4481 1960 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2605.4405 Well, 2605.8742 1961 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2605.8742 (pause 1.20) 2607.0772 1962 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2607.0772 hard to say. 2607.7953 1963 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2607.7953 (pause 4.20) 2611.9954 1964 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2611.9954 I set out 2612.7415 1965 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2612.7415 (pause 0.99) 2613.7346 1966 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2613.7346 to be 2614.4714 1967 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2614.4714 (pause 0.93) 2615.3982 1968 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2615.3982 a doctor of medicine. 2616.4380 1969 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2616.4380 (pause 1.55) 2617.9907 1970 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2617.9907 That was my ambition. 2618.9559 1971 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2618.9559 (pause 2.06) 2621.0158 1972 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2621.0158 But 2621.2820 1973 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2621.2820 (pause 1.08) 2622.3634 1974 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2622.3634 the reason that I uh 2623.6270 1975 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2623.6270 (pause 0.69) 2624.3171 1976 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2624.3171 went into the field of economics was that 2626.1419 1977 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2626.1419 (pause 2.52) 2628.6571 1978 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2628.6571 there's a- well- there are a lot of question about 2630.2145 1979 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2630.2145 (pause 0.23) 2630.4477 1980 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2630.4477 stopping 2631.1285 1981 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2631.1285 (pause 0.33) 2631.4595 1982 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2631.4595 working and going to school. 2632.5367 1983 DCA_int_01 2633.1385 Mm. 2633.4279 1984 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2633.3935 See when you go to medical school, you don't work. You just- just can't work. 2636.4850 1985 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2636.7788 However, some fellas have done it, 2638.1496 1986 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2638.1496 (pause 1.78) 2639.9344 1987 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2639.9344 but uh 2640.4660 1988 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2640.4660 (pause 1.00) 2641.4615 1989 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2641.4615 I don't know that I could have done it because 2643.1052 1990 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2643.1052 (pause 0.55) 2643.6554 1991 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2643.6554 I was working four to twelve, you see, and I don't think 2645.8691 1992 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2645.8691 (pause 0.63) 2646.5033 1993 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2646.5033 I could have 2647.1141 1994 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2647.1141 (pause 0.24) 2647.3535 1995 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2647.3535 done that very well. 2648.6016 1996 DCA_int_01 2648.8483 I tried. 2649.6692 1997 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2649.5797 /You know/ that's pretty rough. /You got to give it-/ you see there are only twenty four hours to a day. 2652.6339 1998 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2653.5281 You gotta give eight hours to your work, that's that right there. 2655.7150 1999 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2655.7150 (pause 0.26) 2655.9714 2000 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2655.9714 And have so many hours of sleep in order to 2657.4496 2001 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2657.4496 (pause 0.37) 2657.8226 2002 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2657.8226 study [effectively.] 2658.7636 2003 DCA_int_01 2658.7319 [Mm-hm.] 2659.0626 2004 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2660.3674 And uh then you gotta attend school. Now when are you going to study? 2662.9320 2005 DCA_int_01 2663.1418 Yeah. 2663.4445 2006 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2663.8195 You see, that's the question of what you gonna do, /when/ you- 2666.0317 2007 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2666.0317 (pause 0.34) 2666.3720 2008 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2666.3720 and you'd 2666.7870 2009 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2666.7870 (pause 1.59) 2668.3818 2010 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2668.3818 uh reduce a day 2669.7340 2011 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2669.7340 (pause 0.75) 2670.4847 2012 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2670.4847 to its twenty four hours, 2671.6353 2013 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2671.6353 (pause 0.31) 2671.9431 2014 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2671.9431 not more, you can't go twenty four and a half hours to a day. There's only twenty four hours to a day, 2675.4496 2015 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2675.4496 (pause 0.52) 2675.9718 2016 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2675.9718 and only twenty four hours to a day, and you can't make it more than that. 2678.3860 2017 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2678.3860 (pause 0.57) 2678.9596 2018 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2678.9596 And you gotta squeeze all that work in twenty four hours. Now w- how are you gonna do it? 2682.3961 2019 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2682.3961 (pause 0.77) 2683.1655 2020 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2683.1655 But of course now, I was taking a course in economics, 2685.9295 2021 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2685.9295 (pause 0.26) 2686.1859 2022 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2686.1859 and I had a professor 2687.2397 2023 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2687.2397 (pause 1.23) 2688.4707 2024 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2688.4707 who impressed me very much, 2690.6099 2025 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2690.6099 (pause 1.67) 2692.2792 2026 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2692.2792 and uh, 2692.8993 2027 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2692.8993 (pause 0.18) 2693.0812 2028 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2693.0812 hanging between that 2694.1350 2029 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2694.1350 (pause 1.09) 2695.2203 2030 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2695.2203 doubt as to how I would get to the medical school, he impressed me a whole lot. 2698.2372 2031 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2698.2372 (pause 1.11) 2699.3423 2032 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2699.3423 That's how I went on into the field of economics, 2701.1935 2033 DCA_int_01 2701.5467 Yeah. 2702.1109 2034 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2702.5819 and that's why I went. 2703.4445 2035 DCA_int_01 2707.1224 Ah, what was it- 2708.2461 2036 DCA_int_01 2708.2461 (pause 0.30) 2708.5446 2037 DCA_int_01 2708.5446 what was your job like when you were still working? Or what would you do in a day's work? 2712.6479 2038 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2715.8222 You mean in- in the- when I left the fire dep- my last days in the fire de- what you mean? What days you [mean?] 2720.1032 2039 DCA_int_01 2719.8748 [When] you were- when you were working at the fire department. 2722.1424 2040 DCA_int_01 2722.4718 /inaudible/ 2723.0140 2041 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2723.5293 Well, 2723.9816 2042 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2723.9816 (pause 0.34) 2724.3174 2043 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2724.3174 uh 2724.7277 2044 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2724.7277 (pause 0.75) 2725.4738 2045 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2725.4738 my last day's work of course, I- when I was /promoted/ to Battalion Chief, um 2729.5490 2046 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2729.5490 (pause 1.30) 2730.8517 2047 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2730.8517 2730.9531 2048 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2730.9531 (pause 0.41) 2731.3675 2049 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2731.3675 the old 2731.9457 2050 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2731.9457 (pause 0.33) 2732.2756 2051 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2732.2756 ugly race picture came up again in that [situation], you see. 2735.1420 2052 DCA_int_01 2734.2810 [Mm.] 2734.4533 2053 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2735.3797 And of course, um, 2736.4163 2054 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2736.4163 (pause 0.75) 2737.1670 2055 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2737.1670 because I got that promotion, it was- I had little trouble getting that promotion. As a matter of fact I had trouble getting 2742.0386 2056 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2742.0386 (pause 1.17) 2743.2043 2057 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2743.2043 my promotion both to Captain and Battalion Chief. 2745.8470 2058 DCA_int_01 2746.1268 Hm. 2746.3133 2059 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2747.0734 I had to uh 2748.0619 2060 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2748.0619 (pause 1.42) 2749.4853 2061 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2749.4853 2749.5613 2062 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2749.5613 (pause 1.58) 2751.1429 2063 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2751.1429 file suit in the U.S. District Court 2753.0687 2064 DCA_int_01 2753.6469 Oh boy. 2754.1645 2065 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2755.0224 against the 2755.5205 2066 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2755.5205 (pause 0.20) 2755.7210 2067 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2755.7210 U.S.- DC fire department and the U- United States Civil Service Commission. 2758.9430 2068 DCA_int_01 2760.2761 /inaudible/ really took them on /??/? 2762.0901 2069 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2761.9261 Yeah to get pr- to- so I that could take 2765.2181 2070 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2765.9176 they 2766.0377 2071 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2766.0377 (pause 0.26) 2766.2941 2072 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2766.2941 the uh 2767.0588 2073 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2767.0588 (pause 0.25) 2767.3106 2074 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2767.3106 promotion 2767.9681 2075 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2767.9681 (pause 0.50) 2768.4717 2076 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2768.4717 for Captain. 2769.2457 2077 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2769.2457 (pause 0.65) 2769.8924 2078 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2769.8924 You see what they did, 2771.0270 2079 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2771.0270 (pause 0.41) 2771.4420 2080 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2771.4420 the fire department 2772.3186 2081 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2772.3186 (pause 1.38) 2773.7023 2082 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2773.7023 with its 2774.4669 2083 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2774.4669 (pause 0.58) 2775.0499 2084 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2775.0499 uh 2775.5302 2085 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2775.5302 (pause 1.47) 2777.0036 2086 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2777.0036 segregated policies, you see 2778.4072 2087 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2778.4072 (pause 1.34) 2779.7489 2088 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2779.7489 adopted a 2780.5148 2089 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2780.5148 (pause 0.21) 2780.7235 2090 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2780.7235 retroactive 2781.6281 2091 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2781.6281 (pause 0.24) 2781.8706 2092 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2781.8706 ruling 2782.3042 2093 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2782.3042 (pause 0.66) 2782.9617 2094 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2782.9617 into its 2783.3813 2095 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2783.3813 (pause 0.30) 2783.6833 2096 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2783.6833 rules and regulations, 2784.7464 2097 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2784.7464 (pause 0.76) 2785.5018 2098 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2785.5018 forbidding me 2786.3691 2099 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2786.3691 (pause 0.68) 2787.0499 2100 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2787.0499 to take the /coalition/ examination for a Captain. 2788.8171 2101 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2788.8171 (pause 3.51) 2792.3240 2102 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2792.3240 I say retr- retroactive because 2794.7100 2103 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2794.7100 (pause 0.94) 2795.6472 2104 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2795.6472 I had to 2796.6544 2105 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2796.6544 (pause 1.35) 2798.0055 2106 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2798.0055 complete a requirement 2799.1479 2107 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2799.1479 (pause 0.86) 2800.0105 2108 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2800.0105 of five years 2801.0503 2109 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2801.0503 (pause 0.73) 2801.7824 2110 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2801.7824 in the position as a Lieutenant, 2802.9808 2111 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2802.9808 (pause 0.77) 2803.7548 2112 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2803.7548 which was three years more than the white 2805.1619 2113 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2805.1619 (pause 1.30) 2806.4628 2114 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2806.4628 persons had to do, 2807.2788 2115 DCA_int_01 2807.6099 Hm. 2807.7544 2116 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2808.2953 you see. 2808.7803 2117 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2808.7803 (pause 1.01) 2809.7863 2118 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2809.7863 I had to completed- completed the five years, and then they put this retroactive ruling in there. 2814.5238 2119 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2814.5238 (pause 0.83) 2815.3585 2120 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2815.3585 My five years were up on May the 2817.3983 2121 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2817.3983 (pause 2.64) 2820.0428 2122 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2820.0428 fifth, nineteen forty-five, 2821.7121 2123 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2821.7121 (pause 1.58) 2823.2917 2124 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2823.2917 and they adopted this ruling 2824.5320 2125 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2824.5320 (pause 0.20) 2824.7278 2126 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2824.7278 on July the twelfth. 2825.6651 2127 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2825.6651 (pause 0.70) 2826.3645 2128 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2826.3645 That's where they put- that's when they put their foot in their own mouth, you see because 2829.4432 2129 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2829.4432 (pause 0.42) 2829.8675 2130 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2829.8675 I completed the five years, and then they p- adopt this ruling, you see 2832.6062 2131 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2832.6062 (pause 0.75) 2833.3523 2132 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2833.3523 and so I went in to s- District Court and filled suit. C- it cost me a lot of money, 2837.0035 2133 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2837.0035 (pause 0.56) 2837.5677 2134 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2837.5677 but as a matter of principle there, you [see], 2839.0167 2135 DCA_int_01 2838.8920 [Mm.] 2839.2697 2136 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2839.3711 and I beat 'em in court. And I took examination 2841.4991 2137 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2841.4991 (pause 1.28) 2842.7750 2138 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2842.7750 uh 2843.1434 2139 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2843.1434 (pause 0.19) 2843.3346 2140 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2843.3346 eventually. 2843.9874 2141 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2843.9874 (pause 0.61) 2844.5935 2142 DCA_se3_ag4_m_01 2844.5935 /Pass it out/. 2845.0412