Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.5514 Alright. So, 1.5357 2 DCB_int_01 1.5357 (pause 0.56) 2.0981 3 DCB_int_01 2.0981 your name is /RD-NAME-4/. 4.9255 4 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 5.9050 That's me. 6.6499 5 DCB_int_01 7.5316 Um, 8.0218 6 DCB_int_01 8.0218 (pause 0.43) 8.4512 7 DCB_int_01 8.4512 what's your birthday? 8.9757 8 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 9.5267 June twenty six. 10.6440 9 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 10.6440 (pause 1.43) 12.0719 10 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 12.0719 [Nineteen] eighty seven. 12.9802 11 DCB_int_01 12.0833 [/What year?/] 12.4482 12 DCB_int_01 13.1094 Nineteen eighty seven. 14.2267 13 DCB_int_01 14.2267 (pause 1.38) 15.6090 14 DCB_int_01 15.6090 Um, 16.3615 15 DCB_int_01 16.3615 (pause 0.15) 16.5097 16 DCB_int_01 16.5097 what's your home town? 17.2128 17 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 17.8018 Washington, DC. 18.5961 18 DCB_int_01 19.2497 What neighborhood? 19.9604 19 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 20.4079 I'm from Uptown. 21.4301 20 DCB_int_01 21.7113 Uptown. 22.1104 21 DCB_int_01 22.1104 (pause 0.29) 22.3954 22 DCB_int_01 22.3954 What is Uptown? 23.5545 23 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 25.4461 It's- 25.8299 24 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 25.8299 (pause 0.62) 26.4531 25 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 26.4531 W- 26.7686 26 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 26.7686 (pause 0.24) 27.0080 27 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 27.0080 [I-] 27.3158 28 DCB_int_01 27.0118 [Like-] 27.2512 29 DCB_int_01 27.4640 Descri- Cause I- I keep people- hearing people say it, but I don't like, know [/inaudible/.] 31.2367 30 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 30.7313 [So Uptown] is- 32.2324 31 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 32.3768 Do you know where 33.6651 32 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 33.6651 (pause 0.40) 34.0603 33 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 34.0603 the Convention Center is? 35.0902 34 DCB_int_01 35.4009 Mm-hm. 35.7467 35 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 36.0812 Uptown is from the Convention Center up. 38.2701 36 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 38.2701 (pause 1.16) 39.4292 37 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 39.4292 Up Georgia Avenue. 40.2225 38 DCB_int_01 40.8762 Up Georgie Avenue. 41.8072 39 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 42.0162 [And it stops-] 42.8371 40 DCB_int_01 42.0238 [Like, close to Howard?] 43.1829 41 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 43.6010 Goes past Howard, 44.8854 42 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 44.8854 (pause 0.62) 45.5039 43 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 45.5039 past uh- It stops at Silv- the S- Silver Spring line. 48.4112 44 DCB_int_01 48.9508 So- 49.2472 45 DCB_int_01 49.2472 (pause 0.28) 49.5237 46 DCB_int_01 49.5237 but there are other places included in Uptown. So like, Columbia Heights is [Uptown?] 52.7273 47 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 52.6741 [Yeah], all that's Uptown. 53.5330 48 DCB_int_01 54.1068 Oh, okay. So I'm'a put Uptown. And you've lived here all your life? 56.7699 49 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 58.2862 Majority of my life, yeah. 59.1982 50 DCB_int_01 59.3949 Where'd else did you live? 60.2842 51 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 60.3944 I lived in Maryland, too. 61.3255 52 DCB_int_01 61.6713 What part of Maryland? 62.3477 53 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 62.7886 In Forestville. 63.8298 54 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 63.8298 (pause 0.31) 64.1405 55 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 64.1405 District Heights. 64.7714 56 DCB_int_01 64.8626 Mm. Mm-hm. 65.4972 57 DCB_int_01 65.4972 (pause 3.69) 69.1825 58 DCB_int_01 69.1825 Um, 69.8438 59 DCB_int_01 69.8438 (pause 0.56) 70.4062 60 DCB_int_01 70.4062 education. 71.0067 61 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 72.8802 Majority in a city. 73.7695 62 DCB_int_01 74.1600 [/??/] 74.4260 63 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 74.2664 [I did] go to 75.3266 64 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 76.0221 a couple Maryland schools though. 77.2192 65 DCB_int_01 77.5688 But you went to the- the city, and then did you go college? 79.7530 66 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 79.9734 Mm-hm. 80.2205 67 DCB_int_01 80.2091 Where'd you go to college? 80.9995 68 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 81.0793 UDC. 81.4745 69 DCB_int_01 81.7672 Oh! 81.9268 70 DCB_int_01 81.9268 (pause 0.55) 82.4740 71 DCB_int_01 82.4740 You really are like a hometown [girl.] 83.9979 72 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 83.6597 [] I am. 84.8178 73 DCB_int_01 84.8634 And your current occupation? 86.2543 74 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 87.1588 Volunteer coordinator for the /RD-WORK-4/, Greater Washington. 90.3463 75 DCB_int_01 94.3242 Um, 94.9931 76 DCB_int_01 94.9931 (pause 0.17) 95.1603 77 DCB_int_01 95.1603 what about your parents? Where was your mom born? 96.8020 78 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 97.1934 My mom was born here. 98.1207 79 DCB_int_01 98.3212 And what about your dad? 99.0014 80 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 99.3397 He was born in South Carolina. 101.2284 81 DCB_int_01 101.3766 In South Carolina. 102.2431 82 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 102.5433 Yeah. 102.9756 83 DCB_int_01 104.1233 What does your mom do? 104.7503 84 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 105.4002 105.5636 85 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 105.5636 (pause 0.12) 105.6814 86 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 105.6814 She's deceased. 107.0457 87 DCB_int_01 107.5055 Hm. 107.7563 88 DCB_int_01 107.7563 (pause 0.72) 108.4774 89 DCB_int_01 108.4774 I'm so sorry. 109.1539 90 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 109.9709 It's okay. Her birthday was yesterday. 111.2668 91 DCB_int_01 111.8825 Oh! 112.3423 92 DCB_int_01 112.3423 (pause 1.23) 113.5689 93 DCB_int_01 113.5689 And what about your dad? 114.4505 94 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 114.9028 He lives in Atlanta. 115.6590 95 DCB_int_01 116.6205 And do you know what he does? 117.4755 96 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 118.1738 H- He teaches basketball. 119.7054 97 DCB_int_01 119.9752 Mm. 120.3476 98 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 121.3547 [At elementary] school. 122.1983 99 DCB_int_01 121.4269 [?] 121.6321 100 DCB_int_01 126.1611 Alright. 126.5867 101 DCB_int_01 126.5867 (pause 0.85) 127.4332 102 DCB_int_01 127.4332 So, 127.6993 103 DCB_int_01 127.6993 (pause 0.14) 127.8361 104 DCB_int_01 127.8361 now we got all the basic, kind of just like 129.6868 105 DCB_int_01 129.6868 (pause 0.70) 130.3898 106 DCB_int_01 130.3898 information there. 131.3817 107 DCB_int_01 131.3817 (pause 1.62) 132.9997 108 DCB_int_01 132.9997 Alright, so now we're going to get into questions about you. 135.0100 109 DCB_int_01 135.0100 (pause 0.25) 135.2571 110 DCB_int_01 135.2571 Just the little background information. 136.8380 111 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 137.1230 Okay. 137.4004 112 DCB_int_01 137.5135 Um, so where do you currently live? Uptown? 139.6264 113 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 139.8582 No. 140.1091 114 DCB_int_01 140.4131 No. Okay. 141.0173 115 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 141.2415 I live down the street. 142.2258 116 DCB_int_01 142.8177 Oh. 143.0685 117 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 143.2357 [So like five] minutes away. 144.3834 118 DCB_int_01 143.2889 [Are you-] 143.6044 119 DCB_int_01 144.8053 Northeast or Southeast? 145.7477 120 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 145.7059 Southeast. 146.3406 121 DCB_int_01 146.4584 You live Southeast. [What]- 147.5025 122 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 147.1567 [Mm-hm.] 147.5063 123 DCB_int_01 147.6089 Is it a neighborhood specifically? 148.9466 124 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 149.6611 149.8283 125 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 149.8283 (pause 1.45) 151.2800 126 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 151.2800 [I don't think so.] I- Well- 153.7340 127 DCB_int_01 151.7807 [Does it have a name?] 152.6167 128 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 154.4941 Probably uh, 155.6950 129 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 155.6950 (pause 2.11) 157.8070 130 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 157.8070 Simple City. 158.5062 131 DCB_int_01 160.2353 [I've heard-] 160.8852 132 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 160.3759 [Now I'm] not from Southeast. 161.9949 133 DCB_int_01 162.4310 Okay. Me neither. I'm not even from [DC so]- Mm-hm. 164.9581 134 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 164.0727 [Mm, okay.] 164.6085 135 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 165.8094 [/But yeah./] 166.3604 136 DCB_int_01 165.8094 [So] 166.4782 137 DCB_int_01 166.7557 um, but- 167.4996 138 DCB_int_01 167.4996 (pause 0.36) 167.8606 139 DCB_int_01 167.8606 You were very quick to say you're not from Southeast. Why? 170.0078 140 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 170.2244 [Cause] it's just- it's different. 171.8091 141 DCB_int_01 170.2358 [What-] 170.5398 142 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 171.9982 It's different- 172.7468 143 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 172.7468 (pause 0.19) 172.9406 144 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 172.9406 Since I moved 173.6437 145 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 173.6437 (pause 0.10) 173.7387 146 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 173.7387 over here, it's so different than living Uptown. 175.7642 147 DCB_int_01 176.5243 Like what? 176.9870 148 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 178.3627 [The- The- The-] 179.5294 149 DCB_int_01 178.3741 [Like, because I really don't-] 179.5408 150 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 179.7118 The people. 180.4300 151 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 180.4300 (pause 0.91) 181.3411 152 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 181.3411 The 182.5192 153 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 182.5192 (pause 0.84) 183.3629 154 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 183.3629 neighborhood, like 184.5562 155 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 184.5562 (pause 0.37) 184.9286 156 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 184.9286 all of that. 185.5633 157 DCB_int_01 186.2730 Can you give me an example, like 187.4586 158 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 187.5461 It's- [It's- It's-] It's more apartments 189.8414 159 DCB_int_01 187.8007 [talk about your neighborhood-] 188.6367 160 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 189.9858 on this 190.6091 161 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 190.6091 (pause 0.37) 190.9815 162 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 190.9815 s- on this side of town 192.0142 163 DCB_int_01 192.1244 [And it was more-] 193.0251 164 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 192.4513 [versus] 193.4393 165 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 194.3894 uh, actual houses like uh, townhouses 196.7142 166 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 196.7142 (pause 0.70) 197.4173 167 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 197.4173 or 197.7897 168 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 197.7897 (pause 0.22) 198.0063 169 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 198.0063 what do you call them? 198.5346 170 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 198.5346 (pause 0.18) 198.7132 171 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 198.7132 Row homes. 199.3592 172 DCB_int_01 199.4998 Mm-hm. [So you used] to live in a row house, 201.4722 173 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 199.9407 [Uptown.] 200.4423 174 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 200.4423 (pause 0.99) 201.4332 175 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 201.4332 Mm-hm. 201.8247 176 DCB_int_01 201.9463 but now you live in apartment? 203.0977 177 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 203.1357 Mm-hm. 203.5120 178 DCB_int_01 203.7476 Mkay. 204.1618 179 DCB_int_01 204.1618 (pause 0.48) 204.6369 180 DCB_int_01 204.6369 And we talk about the people. What's different about the people? 206.6919 181 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 207.1137 They ratchet. 207.8129 182 DCB_int_01 208.0486 They wretched. Give me- 208.7896 183 DCB_int_01 208.7896 (pause 0.35) 209.1430 184 DCB_int_01 209.1430 Okay. Wait a minute. 209.8575 185 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 210.1615 [It's- It's- It's- [always] 212.1481 186 DCB_int_01 210.1615 [See-] 210.4199 187 DCB_int_01 210.4199 (pause 1.07) 211.4907 188 DCB_int_01 211.4907 [The Southeast] mental- Or the [Southeast /?/.] 213.9760 189 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 213.1552 [Yeah. It's-] It's always- I 214.8957 190 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 216.2857 It's sirens. It's 217.6234 191 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 217.6234 (pause 0.27) 217.8932 192 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 217.8932 people 218.4936 193 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 218.4936 (pause 0.33) 218.8281 194 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 218.8281 out all hours of the night. 220.6864 195 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 220.6864 (pause 2.44) 223.1214 196 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 223.1214 It's just 223.6345 197 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 223.6345 (pause 0.61) 224.2463 198 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 224.2463 confusion. But it- it- it w- it used to be worse 226.3317 199 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 226.3317 (pause 0.25) 226.5863 200 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 226.5863 around here. 227.1146 201 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 227.1146 (pause 0.86) 227.9696 202 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 227.9696 I know that, 228.3763 203 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 228.3763 (pause 0.35) 228.7297 204 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 228.7297 but it's getting better. But 229.8698 205 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 229.8698 (pause 0.25) 230.1206 206 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 230.1206 it's just different. It's an adjustment. 231.5485 207 DCB_int_01 231.7500 How long have you lived in Southeast? 233.7375 208 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 234.0529 Since January. 234.6762 209 DCB_int_01 234.9650 Oh you just moved over [here.] 235.9901 210 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 235.7317 [Mm-hm.] 236.0015 211 DCB_int_01 236.1231 From 236.5754 212 DCB_int_01 236.5754 (pause 0.32) 236.8946 213 DCB_int_01 236.8946 [Uptown.] 237.2936 214 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 237.0732 [Uptown.] Mm-hm. 237.7496 215 DCB_int_01 237.9853 Okay, how long did you live in Uptown? 239.3724 216 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 242.5903 Uh, 242.8981 217 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 242.8981 (pause 0.29) 243.1907 218 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 243.1907 majority of my life. Excluding the years that I was in- 245.9183 219 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 245.9183 (pause 0.68) 246.6024 220 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 246.6024 in District Heights. 247.3853 221 DCB_int_01 248.0313 Oh, so that was like your childhood [/home/.] 249.9162 222 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 249.5590 [Yeah.] 249.9428 223 DCB_int_01 250.0948 Okay so let's go back then for a minute. 251.8040 224 DCB_int_01 251.8040 (pause 0.25) 252.0586 225 DCB_int_01 252.0586 Let's talk about your childhood and like, growing up in that neighborhood. 254.7986 226 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 255.0029 [Okay.] 255.4286 227 DCB_int_01 255.1397 [Cause I] think that's always- 256.6446 228 DCB_int_01 257.4047 DC is not what it- 258.2370 229 DCB_int_01 258.2370 (pause 0.21) 258.4460 230 DCB_int_01 258.4460 DC is now- is not what DC was. [So] 261.7285 231 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 260.9950 [No, it's not.] 261.7475 232 DCB_int_01 261.9337 E- And you've been in the same house for a long time [before you] moved out. 264.9473 233 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 264.1150 [Mm-hm.] 264.4875 234 DCB_int_01 265.2086 So tell me a little bit about 266.4893 235 DCB_int_01 266.4893 (pause 0.30) 266.7933 236 DCB_int_01 266.7933 what you remember about your neighborhood as a child. 269.1571 237 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 269.1533 269.3357 238 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 270.1784 Everybody Uptown rode bikes. 271.6187 239 DCB_int_01 271.9911 Mm-hm. 272.2761 240 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 272.4547 That's how we got around. 273.2072 241 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 273.2072 (pause 1.23) 274.4414 242 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 274.4414 Um, 275.1406 243 DCB_int_01 276.1629 [/Keep your head/] back for me. 277.2536 244 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 276.1667 [all of my f-] 276.7823 245 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 276.7823 (pause 0.46) 277.2384 246 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 277.2384 I'm sorry. 277.5994 247 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 277.7058 [All of my friends] 278.6711 248 DCB_int_01 277.8350 [Your good.] 278.3784 249 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 279.1575 live on the same street. I lived on Seventh Street. 280.9427 250 DCB_int_01 281.1441 [/And what?/] 281.4785 251 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 281.2771 Seventh and /RD-ADDRESS-2/. 282.6262 252 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 283.8499 That's a 284.3515 253 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 284.3515 (pause 0.30) 284.6546 254 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 284.6546 strip, 285.1866 255 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 285.1866 (pause 0.66) 285.8441 256 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 285.8441 too. 286.1291 257 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 286.1291 (pause 0.14) 286.2659 258 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 286.2659 It used to be real bad, but it's not. 287.7556 259 DCB_int_01 288.2231 What is that close by? 289.4496 260 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 289.9094 [/RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue.] 290.5555 261 DCB_int_01 289.9094 [/Like-/] 290.3693 262 DCB_int_01 290.8139 Oh, okay. [Okay.] 291.5056 263 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 291.3573 [It's] close to /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue. 292.3986 264 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 293.0067 Um, 293.6793 265 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 293.6793 (pause 2.43) 296.1105 266 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 296.1105 either 296.9618 267 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 296.9618 (pause 0.26) 297.2240 268 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 297.2240 either I was up top, on Seventh and /RD-ADDRESS-3/ 299.4424 269 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 299.4424 (pause 0.38) 299.8263 270 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 299.8263 all the neighborhood kids or I was down bottom 302.0190 271 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 302.0190 (pause 1.17) 303.1933 272 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 303.1933 uh, at the playground 304.2564 273 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 304.2564 (pause 0.20) 304.4579 274 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 304.4579 at the elementary school /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 305.8640 275 DCB_int_01 307.0876 So, 307.3005 276 DCB_int_01 307.3005 (pause 0.21) 307.5057 277 DCB_int_01 307.5057 close to /RD-WORK-3/. 308.7256 278 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 308.9412 Yeah, it's not- it's not far at all. I could walk to /RD-WORK-3/ 311.4950 279 DCB_int_01 311.3240 Mm-hm. Cause I know we [get]- 312.1943 280 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 312.0385 [from] my old house. 312.7187 281 DCB_int_01 312.5553 But /RD-SCHOOL-1/- 312.9847 282 DCB_int_01 313.0987 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ made me realize [where you were] now.[Okay], now I'm- 315.7960 283 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 314.2873 [Oh yeah.] 314.8497 284 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 314.8497 (pause 0.34) 315.1917 285 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 315.1917 [Yup.] 315.3970 286 DCB_int_01 316.0658 I know- 316.4990 287 DCB_int_01 316.4990 (pause 0.69) 317.1869 288 DCB_int_01 317.1869 Got- Kind of have my [bearings.] Okay. 318.5018 289 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 317.8595 [Yeah.] 318.1902 290 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 319.5915 /Right there/. 320.0780 291 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 320.0780 (pause 0.83) 320.9064 292 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 320.9064 Mm. 321.5449 293 DCB_int_01 321.5487 And everybody rode bikes. 322.7761 294 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 322.9472 Mostly everybody rode bikes (whispered). 324.2421 295 DCB_int_01 324.4321 Did you ride [bikes?] 325.3100 296 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 325.1314 [I] did. 325.6368 297 DCB_int_01 325.6482 Mm. 325.8686 298 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 326.1423 I rode bikes. Um, 327.5446 299 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 327.5446 (pause 2.21) 329.7516 300 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 329.7516 > 329.8542 301 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 329.8542 (pause 0.87) 330.7282 302 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 330.7282 ever- everybody around there were friend- 332.8070 303 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 332.8070 (pause 0.26) 333.0645 304 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 333.0645 I'm still friends with a lot of people I'm- 334.7252 305 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 334.7252 (pause 0.15) 334.8772 306 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 334.8772 I used to be friends with, too. 335.9375 307 DCB_int_01 336.4809 Did you 337.0205 308 DCB_int_01 337.0205 (pause 0.43) 337.4500 309 DCB_int_01 337.4500 um, 337.8680 310 DCB_int_01 337.8680 (pause 0.41) 338.2775 311 DCB_int_01 338.2775 were you an only child? 339.3340 312 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 339.5088 No. 339.9344 313 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 339.9344 (pause 0.33) 340.2688 314 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 340.2688 [I have] 340.7097 315 DCB_int_01 340.2840 [You had] siblings? 341.0669 316 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 340.9795 two older siblings and one younger one. 343.0924 317 DCB_int_01 343.7452 Did you all play together or were you uh- the age [differences-?] 346.0519 318 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 345.6529 [No, we did-] we didn't grow up together. Me and my brother did. 347.7544 319 DCB_int_01 348.1753 Oh, okay. 348.5630 320 DCB_int_01 348.5630 (pause 0.44) 349.0000 321 DCB_int_01 349.0000 And that's your younger [or older] brother? Okay that's your [younger brother.] 351.6678 322 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 349.8931 [Mm-hm.] 350.3225 323 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 350.3225 (pause 0.78) 351.0977 324 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 351.0977 [My younger brother.] 351.7476 325 DCB_int_01 351.8920 And how old is- How old is he? 353.4948 326 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 353.6772 He's twenty five. 354.4144 327 DCB_int_01 354.4562 So he's what? Two years younger- [three years] younger than [you.] 357.1126 328 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 355.9307 [Three year-] 356.4058 329 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 356.4058 (pause 0.31) 356.7136 330 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 356.7136 [Mm-hm.] 357.1278 331 DCB_int_01 357.1962 So did you all play together or you all had different [groups of friends?] 359.3234 332 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 358.6774 [Yeah, we-] We played together. We kind of 360.5942 333 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 360.7980 had- The older we got, the more 362.8264 334 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 362.8264 (pause 0.54) 363.3660 335 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 363.3660 our group of friends like, 364.7531 336 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 364.7531 (pause 0.33) 365.0837 337 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 365.0837 dispersed. Like, it wasn't- 366.3758 338 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 366.3758 (pause 1.29) 367.6670 339 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 367.6670 Younger? Yeah we had the same friends. 369.3619 340 DCB_int_01 369.4265 Mm-hm. 369.7913 341 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 369.7951 But 370.0687 342 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 370.0687 (pause 0.13) 370.1941 343 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 370.1941 we still have the same friends now. 371.4824 344 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 371.4824 (pause 0.32) 371.8055 345 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 371.8055 But he- We just went in two different paths. 373.6721 346 DCB_int_01 373.7617 Mm. 374.0049 347 DCB_int_01 374.0049 (pause 0.40) 374.4077 348 DCB_int_01 374.4077 So, what did you all do as kids? Like in a neighborhood, you were at the playground. What'd you all do? Like what kind of games- [What did you-] 379.5713 349 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 379.1419 [We walked] around. We did a lot of walking. I w- I remember a lot of walking 382.8956 350 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 383.0666 Uptown. 383.5797 351 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 383.5797 (pause 0.34) 383.9217 352 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 383.9217 And riding bikes. 384.7806 353 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 384.7806 (pause 0.20) 384.9782 354 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 384.9782 And just 385.6318 355 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 385.6318 (pause 0.24) 385.8750 356 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 385.8750 chilling on my friend's porch. 387.7248 357 DCB_int_01 388.7813 Hm. 389.0131 358 DCB_int_01 389.0131 (pause 0.35) 389.3666 359 DCB_int_01 389.3666 And- Hold on, I'm gonna pause for one second. /Your collar./ 391.4178 360 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 391.5660 Okay. 391.8662 361 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 391.8662 (pause 0.30) 392.1626 362 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 392.1626 392.7593 363 DCB_int_01 394.0514 Okay. So I'm sorry. 394.8912 364 DCB_int_01 394.8912 (pause 0.24) 395.1344 365 DCB_int_01 395.1344 You rode bikes, 396.2175 366 DCB_int_01 396.2175 (pause 0.20) 396.4218 367 DCB_int_01 396.4218 um, and you all walked [around.] 397.6569 368 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 397.1894 [We did a lot] of walking. 398.4359 369 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 398.7133 Mm-hm. 399.1922 370 DCB_int_01 399.0934 Just up and down the street? 400.0244 371 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 400.6933 Around the neighborhood. 401.4495 372 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 401.4495 (pause 0.75) 402.2011 373 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 402.2011 Cause Uptown is different neighborhoods, too. 404.2342 374 DCB_int_01 404.7510 Okay. Like, what's in different [neighborhoods?] 406.6616 375 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 406.1457 [Um,] 407.1861 376 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 407.7105 407.8967 377 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 407.8967 (pause 1.68) 409.5764 378 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 409.5764 it's /T-Mob/, which is Truesdell. 411.6704 379 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 411.6704 (pause 0.68) 412.3459 380 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 412.3459 That's down- 413.1085 381 DCB_int_01 413.1174 I never heard it called that. 414.2230 382 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 414.1206 /T-Mob/ um, 415.8307 383 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 416.1908 fifty two hundred. 417.3499 384 DCB_int_01 417.5551 What's fifty two [hundred?] 418.4938 385 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 418.2354 [It's-] it's in the same area as /T-Mob/. 420.1013 386 DCB_int_01 420.4395 Okay, so these are neighborhood, [like-] 421.7649 387 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 421.6433 [These] aren't neighborhood- 422.3501 388 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 422.6922 It's [different- N-] 423.9729 389 DCB_int_01 423.0494 [In the neighborhood.] 423.9805 390 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 424.0907 [Neighborhoods] within a neighborhood, but a- this neighborhood is all together. 427.2211 391 DCB_int_01 424.0907 [Diff-] 424.5201 392 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 427.6012 [So it's-] 428.1028 393 DCB_int_01 427.6316 [Okay, so these like] turfs kind of. 429.1479 394 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 429.1251 Yeah. 429.4861 395 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 429.6837 [Exactly.] 430.2234 396 DCB_int_01 429.6837 [Okay.] 430.2234 397 DCB_int_01 430.4324 So we had /T-Mob/, fifty two hundred, 432.8446 398 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 432.9814 [Mm-hm.] 433.6503 399 DCB_int_01 433.1676 [what else?] 433.6541 400 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 434.2355 CRT. 435.0412 401 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 435.0412 (pause 0.13) 435.1704 402 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 435.1704 That's /Crittenden/ Street. 436.1204 403 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 436.1204 (pause 0.57) 436.6857 404 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 436.6857 Uh, 437.2634 405 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 437.2634 (pause 1.35) 438.6163 406 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 438.6163 /Fourth and Delafield/ 439.7526 407 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 439.7526 (pause 0.72) 440.4699 408 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 440.4699 and- 440.9069 409 DCB_int_01 440.9449 Why does that sound familiar (whispered)? I think somebody else was telling me about [that.] 443.3961 410 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 443.2175 [That's] Uptown, too. 444.0953 411 DCB_int_01 444.2397 Was- Now, 445.1100 412 DCB_int_01 445.1100 (pause 0.38) 445.4929 413 DCB_int_01 445.4929 were these- 446.5266 414 DCB_int_01 446.5266 (pause 1.30) 447.8263 415 DCB_int_01 447.8263 certain people could go on certain streets? Was it like, 450.2812 416 DCB_int_01 450.2812 (pause 0.43) 450.7135 417 DCB_int_01 450.7135 gang- I won't say gang, but was it like, most definitely this is my turf, you can't [come over here.] 454.8368 418 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 454.2402 [ Yeah.] Sometime- Well, it- it didn't used to be like that, 456.8690 419 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 457.1312 but 457.4999 420 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 457.4999 (pause 0.24) 457.7355 421 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 457.7355 like, I'm'a say about five, six years ago, 460.2931 422 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 460.2931 (pause 0.84) 461.1320 423 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 461.1320 it got really v- really violent up there. 463.7428 424 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 463.7428 (pause 0.57) 464.3166 425 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 464.3166 And, 464.9171 426 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 464.9171 (pause 0.43) 465.3456 427 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 465.3456 like, from 466.3032 428 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 466.3032 (pause 0.23) 466.5312 429 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 466.5312 CRT up, 467.8537 430 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 467.8537 (pause 1.09) 468.9406 431 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 468.9406 everybody was together, but CRT down, 471.3566 432 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 471.3566 (pause 0.67) 472.0293 433 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 472.0293 everybody was together. 472.9340 434 DCB_int_01 472.9888 [When you say it got violent, like-] 474.1346 435 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 473.1314 [They were kind of- They were kind of] like beefing. 474.9213 436 DCB_int_01 475.6614 Ah, [okay.] 476.5963 437 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 476.1820 [And] from 477.2195 438 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 477.4323 one side of Georgia Avenue 478.8346 439 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 478.8346 (pause 0.35) 479.1881 440 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 479.1881 to the other side of Georgia Avenue, they were beefing too. 481.3077 441 DCB_int_01 482.1741 Okay, so like what was- like what was it- 484.4315 442 DCB_int_01 484.4315 (pause 0.60) 485.0272 443 DCB_int_01 485.0272 What- What caused the violence? Was it drugs, was it just like, [this my] neighborhood, like what- 490.2744 444 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 488.4322 [I think it was-] 489.1505 445 DCB_int_01 490.6051 [what was the-] 491.0611 446 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 490.6203 [I think drugs] had a lot to do with it. It was drugs. It was 493.4515 447 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 493.5199 uh, 494.1241 448 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 494.1241 (pause 0.20) 494.3246 449 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 494.3246 just people not liking each other. 495.7269 450 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 495.7269 (pause 1.35) 497.0760 451 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 497.0760 It was a lot of- 497.8246 452 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 497.8246 (pause 0.32) 498.1439 453 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 498.1439 it was a lot of hood beef. 499.0027 454 DCB_int_01 499.9899 Mm, and so now, 501.6126 455 DCB_int_01 501.6126 (pause 0.17) 501.7836 456 DCB_int_01 501.7836 think- Okay, let's fast forward, and I want you to think about your neighborhood when you were there 505.7843 457 DCB_int_01 505.7843 (pause 0.74) 506.5292 458 DCB_int_01 506.5292 um- So that was as a kid. Did you see- did you realize like it was violent and all that as a- 511.1190 459 DCB_int_01 511.1190 (pause 0.31) 511.4306 460 DCB_int_01 511.4306 [as like, a] little person? 512.5897 461 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 511.4382 Mm-hm. 511.8448 462 DCB_int_01 513.0267 You did? 513.4979 463 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 513.4952 Mm-hm. 513.8428 464 DCB_int_01 513.9758 And then as you got older, and you were kind of, you know- Some of your friends may have been doing some of this, or you like saw like, your neighborhood people- You were more aware of like- 521.8795 465 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 521.8795 Yeah, [cause most] of m- Honestly, most of m- 524.1207 466 DCB_int_01 522.1683 [What was-] 522.6699 467 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 524.2651 m- the neighborhood people, 525.8118 468 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 525.8118 (pause 0.86) 526.6745 469 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 526.6745 I'm- I'm still friends with a lot of the girls. 529.1057 470 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 529.1057 (pause 0.23) 529.3375 471 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 529.3375 But most of the guys, are either 531.5151 472 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 531.5151 (pause 0.23) 531.7469 473 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 531.7469 dead or in jail. 532.6095 474 DCB_int_01 533.3687 Because of what was [going on.] 534.6304 475 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 534.2883 [Because] of what's going on- And my brother included. My brother- He got in a lot of trouble 537.6630 476 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 538.3993 being Uptown. 539.3874 477 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 539.3874 (pause 1.24) 540.6300 478 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 540.6300 He went to jail a couple of times. 541.8461 479 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 541.8461 (pause 1.85) 543.6921 480 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 543.6921 So. 544.1139 481 DCB_int_01 544.2014 So it was like, 544.7752 482 DCB_int_01 544.7752 (pause 0.40) 545.1704 483 DCB_int_01 545.1704 violence. Violence like stabbing, shooting- 547.4620 484 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 548.4675 Yeah, one of my friend- my friend /RD-NAME-2/, he was murdered 551.2233 485 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 551.2233 (pause 0.33) 551.5501 486 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 551.5501 like three or four years ago. He got stabbed. 553.5187 487 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 553.5187 (pause 0.65) 554.1676 488 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 554.1676 Um, my brother's 555.3229 489 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 555.3229 (pause 0.14) 555.4597 490 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 555.4597 best friend, he was 556.8392 491 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 556.8392 (pause 0.43) 557.2724 492 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 557.2724 killed on Mother's Day. 558.6966 493 DCB_int_01 559.4604 Recently? 560.0533 494 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 560.1939 Uh, three years [ago.] 561.3530 495 DCB_int_01 561.1401 [Oh], three years ago. 561.9002 496 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 561.8090 Mm-hm. 562.3106 497 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 563.9438 564.0654 498 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 564.0654 (pause 0.49) 564.5587 499 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 564.5587 Somebody just got k- k- 565.8591 500 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 565.8591 (pause 0.40) 566.2544 501 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 566.2544 A friend of mine 567.1512 502 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 567.1512 (pause 0.84) 567.9902 503 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 567.9902 uh, /RD-NAME-1/. He got killed 570.7264 504 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 570.7264 (pause 0.30) 571.0228 505 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 571.0228 in February, 571.8284 506 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 571.8284 (pause 0.30) 572.1249 507 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 572.1249 right on /RD-ADDRESS-5/. 573.1537 508 DCB_int_01 573.3324 So do you see a difference between- 575.6772 509 DCB_int_01 575.6772 (pause 0.44) 576.1180 510 DCB_int_01 576.1180 because I know like- You know, we talk about the ratchet in Sa- Southeast, 578.7506 511 DCB_int_01 578.7506 (pause 0.35) 579.1003 512 DCB_int_01 579.1003 and but Uptown is supposed to be this whole thing. It's supposed to be [all-] 582.6307 513 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 582.1633 [Prestige /and that/.] 583.1390 514 DCB_int_01 582.7818 [Yes.] Hoity toity. 584.0017 515 DCB_int_01 584.3513 But are you seeing some of the same things 586.7265 516 DCB_int_01 586.7265 (pause 0.41) 587.1322 517 DCB_int_01 587.1322 that you saw in Uptown- some of the same violence. Are you seeing that in Southeast? Or do you feel like it was worse in Uptown or-? 592.5856 518 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 592.6454 It's actually worse in Southeast. 594.4544 519 DCB_int_01 594.5418 It's worse. [Okay.] 595.5298 520 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 595.1498 [It's worse.] 595.7008 521 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 596.3583 Um, 597.0613 522 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 597.0613 (pause 0.48) 597.5392 523 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 597.5392 it's not- 598.0713 524 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 598.0713 (pause 0.45) 598.5197 525 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 598.5197 it's not ordin- It's not out of the ordinary to hear somebody 601.3167 526 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 601.3167 (pause 0.12) 601.4345 527 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 601.4345 getting killed around 602.0958 528 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 602.0958 (pause 0.22) 602.3114 529 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 602.3114 here, 602.6307 530 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 602.6307 (pause 0.15) 602.7827 531 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 602.7827 around these parts. But 603.9189 532 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 603.9189 (pause 0.77) 604.6866 533 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 604.6866 when you hear about Uptown, it's like oh my God. Can't believe such and such got killed 607.9729 534 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 607.9729 (pause 0.53) 608.5049 535 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 608.5049 because it's like- 609.4702 536 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 609.4702 (pause 2.09) 611.5632 537 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 611.5632 I guess Uptown's set in- in this- 613.1783 538 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 613.1783 (pause 0.37) 613.5470 539 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 613.5470 on this pedestal, 614.3526 540 DCB_int_01 614.7212 Mm-[hm.] 615.2343 541 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 615.0747 [on] a standard. 616.0703 542 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 616.4542 Like 616.8608 543 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 616.8608 (pause 0.63) 617.4907 544 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 617.4907 they got 617.8897 545 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 617.8897 (pause 0.40) 618.2850 546 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 618.2850 the best of the best things, or 620.2155 547 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 620.2155 (pause 0.87) 621.0820 548 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 621.0820 this, that, and the third, but it's still- 622.6391 549 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 622.6391 (pause 0.51) 623.1446 550 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 623.1446 When it all boils down to it, 624.3302 551 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 624.3302 (pause 0.47) 624.7977 552 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 624.7977 people getting hurt. People losing their lives. 626.1810 553 DCB_int_01 626.9553 Do you feel like- Okay. 628.0156 554 DCB_int_01 628.0156 (pause 0.46) 628.4792 555 DCB_int_01 628.4792 So I don't want to like, dwell on this, but I think it's really interesting cause I haven't heard a lot of people talk about that- Like lived 633.6618 556 DCB_int_01 633.6618 (pause 0.07) 633.7302 557 DCB_int_01 633.7302 you know, they'll talk about oh everything was perfect, 635.9078 558 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 636.3629 [Oh.] 637.1039 559 DCB_int_01 636.3705 [but] 637.1267 560 DCB_int_01 637.5790 outside of like, what you see on TV for DC. You see, you know, you hear about ,and then the last two years I've been here as an adult, 643.6547 561 DCB_int_01 643.6547 (pause 0.39) 644.0423 562 DCB_int_01 644.0423 like violence and things that happened, 646.0070 563 DCB_int_01 646.0070 (pause 0.27) 646.2797 564 DCB_int_01 646.2797 um, and you're talking about some of this live stuff. 648.9057 565 DCB_int_01 648.9057 (pause 0.48) 649.3883 566 DCB_int_01 649.3883 Do you feel like 650.9085 567 DCB_int_01 650.9085 (pause 0.87) 651.7778 568 DCB_int_01 651.7778 um, 652.3668 569 DCB_int_01 652.3668 (pause 1.01) 653.3815 570 DCB_int_01 653.3815 the city is unsafe? 654.8598 571 DCB_int_01 654.8598 (pause 0.46) 655.3234 572 DCB_int_01 655.3234 Or do you feel like it's a relatively safe city, there are just certain parts. 658.7389 573 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 658.9517 I think it's safe. Um, 660.5137 574 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 660.5137 (pause 0.96) 661.4780 575 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 661.4780 It's gotten a lot safer. 662.5991 576 DCB_int_01 663.4389 Why? 663.7353 577 DCB_int_01 663.7353 (pause 0.41) 664.1420 578 DCB_int_01 664.1420 Why do you believe that? 665.0312 579 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 665.2925 665.4787 580 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 665.4787 (pause 0.19) 665.6687 581 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 665.6687 Because a lot of people- 668.4087 582 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 668.4087 (pause 0.78) 669.1916 583 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 669.1916 Honestly? 669.9441 584 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 669.9441 (pause 1.24) 671.1858 585 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 671.1858 I think people are getting older 672.3335 586 DCB_int_01 672.9871 Mm-hm. 673.2684 587 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 674.0398 and from, 675.0621 588 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 675.0621 (pause 0.18) 675.2436 589 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 675.2436 when I probably was in middle school or high school, 677.5541 590 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 677.5541 (pause 0.96) 678.5118 591 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 678.5118 it weren't- it wasn't 679.5759 592 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 679.5759 (pause 0.52) 680.0994 593 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 680.0994 that many people going to college. 681.6385 594 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 681.6385 (pause 0.41) 682.0489 595 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 682.0489 Now and I see a lot of 682.8166 596 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 682.8166 (pause 0.38) 683.1966 597 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 683.1966 people actually 684.2759 598 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 684.2759 (pause 0.68) 684.9599 599 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 684.9599 caring about 685.7494 600 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 685.7494 (pause 0.14) 685.8900 601 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 685.8900 themselves and their lives and 687.5176 602 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 687.5176 (pause 0.15) 687.6724 603 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 687.6724 what they're going to do 688.4818 604 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 688.4818 (pause 2.10) 690.5862 605 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 690.5862 opposed to back then. 691.6085 606 DCB_int_01 692.8702 Mm-hm. 693.1894 607 DCB_int_01 693.1894 (pause 0.67) 693.8621 608 DCB_int_01 693.8621 Do you feel like- 695.0591 609 DCB_int_01 695.0591 (pause 0.78) 695.8373 610 DCB_int_01 695.8373 Do you see 696.5213 611 DCB_int_01 696.5213 (pause 0.43) 696.9469 612 DCB_int_01 696.9469 in the last 697.8552 613 DCB_int_01 697.8552 (pause 0.22) 698.0794 614 DCB_int_01 698.0794 ten, fifteen years, do you see the city has like really really changed a whole lot? 701.5291 615 DCB_int_01 701.5291 (pause 0.35) 701.8750 616 DCB_int_01 701.8750 Or do you feel like it's still the same, just 703.7751 617 DCB_int_01 703.7751 (pause 0.13) 703.9005 618 DCB_int_01 703.9005 dealing with the same kind of problems 705.5223 619 DCB_int_01 705.5223 (pause 0.46) 705.9821 620 DCB_int_01 705.9821 um, just people are getting more mature and really starting to care about themselves or do you see like 709.8318 621 DCB_int_01 709.8318 (pause 0.15) 709.9829 622 DCB_int_01 709.9829 the city itself has changed? 711.4004 623 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 711.3510 The city has changed. 712.5138 624 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 713.2131 Like, especially physically. Like, it's so many- 715.5493 625 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 715.5493 (pause 1.37) 716.9212 626 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 716.9212 My dad- My dad comes up here once a year, but every time he comes, he's like, oh my God. It looks so different. 722.3661 627 DCB_int_01 723.2173 Hm. 723.5289 628 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 727.4137 A lot of people are moving away. 728.4266 629 DCB_int_01 729.2199 They're moving out of the city? 730.1433 630 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 730.1395 Mm-hm. 730.4968 631 DCB_int_01 731.6292 Yeah, I know like, PG is the new 733.4648 632 DCB_int_01 733.4648 (pause 0.35) 733.8182 633 DCB_int_01 733.8182 Ward Nine. 734.7407 634 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 734.7407 Yeah, it is. 735.6718 635 DCB_int_01 735.6718 Like- 735.9682 636 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 736.1544 It is. 736.7055 637 DCB_int_01 736.7663 Black people are getting kicked out. 738.0280 638 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 738.3092 [They are.] 738.9780 639 DCB_int_01 738.3092 [I mean-] 738.9780 640 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 739.3875 But then- 740.1628 641 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 740.1628 (pause 0.20) 740.3642 642 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 740.3642 Okay. 740.8810 643 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 740.8810 (pause 0.57) 741.4549 644 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 741.4549 A lot of people are going to Maryland, 742.7660 645 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 742.7660 (pause 0.36) 743.1308 646 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 743.1308 but Maryland don't really want 744.4751 647 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 744.4751 (pause 0.34) 744.8134 648 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 744.8134 all this 745.4290 649 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 745.4290 (pause 0.28) 745.7102 650 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 745.7102 foolishness going on in their city either. 747.6066 651 DCB_int_01 748.0512 Right. 748.3763 652 DCB_int_01 748.3763 (pause 1.22) 749.5932 653 DCB_int_01 749.5932 And so people are displaced. 751.0905 654 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 751.2235 [Mm-hm.] 751.9075 655 DCB_int_01 751.2463 [Um,] 751.9075 656 DCB_int_01 752.0519 and I think- 752.7474 657 DCB_int_01 752.7474 (pause 0.84) 753.5901 658 DCB_int_01 753.5901 What I've seen, 754.5972 659 DCB_int_01 754.5972 (pause 0.41) 755.0114 660 DCB_int_01 755.0114 and it's so interesting like, being able to talk to somebody who's been here. Like, 757.6070 661 DCB_int_01 757.6070 (pause 0.17) 757.7780 662 DCB_int_01 757.7780 cause I've only been here a couple years as an adult. As a college student, I- you know, you don't pay attention. [You live in your little] bubble. You doing what [you do and that's it.] 763.3293 663 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 761.2011 [Mm-hm.] 761.7636 664 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 761.7636 (pause 0.90) 762.6680 665 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 762.6680 [Mm-hm.] 763.3293 666 DCB_int_01 763.7768 But as an adult, 764.7078 667 DCB_int_01 764.7078 (pause 0.22) 764.9321 668 DCB_int_01 764.9321 and then working um, like um, in this neighborhood, 767.9419 669 DCB_int_01 767.9419 (pause 0.50) 768.4464 670 DCB_int_01 768.4464 it's very very interesting to see like, how the neighborhood has shifted. Like with the building of those new apartments, 774.1040 671 DCB_int_01 774.1040 (pause 0.25) 774.3548 672 DCB_int_01 774.3548 Now they're starting to like tear this area [down.] 776.7642 673 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 776.4184 [Mm-hm.] 777.2355 674 DCB_int_01 777.2164 Like gentrification is [really changing-] 780.0467 675 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 778.6862 [It's real- It is.] It's scary. I- 781.1146 676 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 781.5820 It- It really really really really bothered me at first. 784.3743 677 DCB_int_01 784.4655 Why? 784.8303 678 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 785.3814 Because 786.3162 679 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 786.3162 (pause 1.73) 788.0482 680 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 788.0482 it is still a lot of good people here, 790.0433 681 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 790.0433 (pause 0.36) 790.4044 682 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 790.4044 but 790.7578 683 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 790.7578 (pause 2.42) 793.1814 684 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 793.1814 you're soliciting people 794.9638 685 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 794.9638 (pause 0.57) 795.5338 686 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 795.5338 with 795.9252 687 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 795.9252 (pause 0.66) 796.5865 688 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 796.5865 higher education, 797.3883 689 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 797.3883 (pause 1.67) 799.0613 690 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 799.0613 better 799.4851 691 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 799.4851 (pause 0.21) 799.6904 692 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 799.6904 background- Not better, but a different 801.5677 693 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 801.5677 (pause 0.25) 801.8185 694 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 801.8185 background. It's- It's getting too expensive to live in the city. 804.2535 695 DCB_int_01 804.5690 Mm-hm. 804.9946 696 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 805.4772 It's so expensive. 806.4159 697 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 806.4159 (pause 0.21) 806.6249 698 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 806.6249 Even on this end, 807.6662 699 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 807.6662 (pause 0.18) 807.8477 700 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 807.8477 it's still very very expens- I wanted to 809.6908 701 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 809.6908 (pause 0.32) 810.0062 702 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 810.0062 actually move, U- back Uptown but I can't afford it. 812.0460 703 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 812.0460 (pause 0.27) 812.3120 704 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 812.3120 I can't afford to move Uptown. 813.3115 705 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 813.3115 (pause 1.03) 814.3452 706 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 814.3452 And it's funny that you say 815.6091 707 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 815.6091 (pause 0.22) 815.8242 708 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 815.8242 like, 816.1465 709 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 816.1465 (pause 0.26) 816.4087 710 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 816.4087 you notice the diff- Like with this club. 818.2623 711 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 818.2623 (pause 0.45) 818.7146 712 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 818.7146 This club, and this club's kids 820.8009 713 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 820.8009 (pause 0.61) 821.4090 714 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 821.4090 are so different from 822.6241 715 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 822.6241 (pause 0.46) 823.0877 716 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 823.0877 Clubhouse Six and their kids. 824.5050 717 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 824.5050 (pause 0.38) 824.8891 718 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 824.8891 And FBR and their kids. 826.5232 719 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 826.5232 (pause 0.55) 827.0733 720 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 827.0733 It's so different, 827.7003 721 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 827.7003 (pause 0.38) 828.0841 722 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 828.0841 and i- it depends on the area. 829.5549 723 DCB_int_01 830.3947 Mm-hm. 830.8127 724 DCB_int_01 830.8127 (pause 2.89) 833.7000 725 DCB_int_01 833.7000 I think 834.3727 726 DCB_int_01 834.3727 (pause 0.16) 834.5323 727 DCB_int_01 834.5323 like, looking at 835.6115 728 DCB_int_01 835.6115 (pause 0.35) 835.9574 729 DCB_int_01 835.9574 Clubhouse Six, 837.6172 730 DCB_int_01 837.6172 (pause 0.20) 837.8186 731 DCB_int_01 837.8186 it's a lot 838.4494 732 DCB_int_01 838.4494 (pause 0.12) 838.5672 733 DCB_int_01 838.5672 more diversity there. 839.9771 734 DCB_int_01 839.9771 (pause 0.29) 840.2621 735 DCB_int_01 840.2621 I think [especially as Columbia] Heights is changing, 842.6744 736 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 840.7790 [Mm-hm.] 841.2160 737 DCB_int_01 843.1152 you see a lot more um, 845.2320 738 DCB_int_01 845.2320 (pause 1.04) 846.2723 739 DCB_int_01 846.2723 846.5041 740 DCB_int_01 846.5041 (pause 0.19) 846.6903 741 DCB_int_01 846.6903 Latinos coming [into the Club], and in that community, 849.5101 742 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 847.7924 [Yeah.] 848.1344 743 DCB_int_01 849.7723 but you see a lot of- 850.7452 744 DCB_int_01 850.7452 (pause 0.17) 850.9200 745 DCB_int_01 850.9200 I won't- Like not necessarily old money like they're not rich rich, but they're like 854.7042 746 DCB_int_01 854.7042 (pause 0.35) 855.0576 747 DCB_int_01 855.0576 middle class, upper middle class 856.8390 748 DCB_int_01 856.8390 (pause 0.49) 857.3254 749 DCB_int_01 857.3254 and- 857.8276 750 DCB_int_01 857.8276 (pause 0.09) 857.9166 751 DCB_int_01 857.9166 But they've been in this community all their lives. They've been- /RD-WORK-4/ has been a part of their 861.3081 752 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 861.5922 [Mm-hm.] 862.1090 753 DCB_int_01 861.8620 [community] so they- Their kids go- They went there. [Their kids] go there. 865.2480 754 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 864.1421 [Right.] 864.4006 755 DCB_int_01 865.6043 You know, um, 866.6418 756 DCB_int_01 866.6418 (pause 0.78) 867.4246 757 DCB_int_01 867.4246 whereas here, it's the same kind of thing, but it's still like, the socioeconomic status really hasn't shifted. 872.1454 758 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 872.1439 It hasn't. 872.7327 759 DCB_int_01 872.8505 Like it's still mostly 874.6974 760 DCB_int_01 874.6974 (pause 0.43) 875.1269 761 DCB_int_01 875.1269 working class, maybe lower middle class, 877.6911 762 DCB_int_01 877.6911 (pause 0.35) 878.0407 763 DCB_int_01 878.0407 but for the most part, it's still like the same neighborhood kids, their families 881.6804 764 DCB_int_01 881.6804 (pause 0.30) 881.9807 765 DCB_int_01 881.9807 from back [then, and now]- You know. 883.8086 766 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 882.6533 [Mm-hm.] 883.1245 767 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 884.1886 [I noticed that too.] 884.9905 768 DCB_int_01 884.1886 And /they'll/ kids will come here in twenty years. 886.7947 769 DCB_int_01 888.1476 So, it's- Hopefully if we're still here in twenty years. Amen. 890.8648 770 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 891.4757 /Hey yeah./ 891.8937 771 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 891.8937 (pause 0.20) 892.0951 772 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 892.0951 God willing. 892.6728 773 DCB_int_01 892.8362 Amen. 893.1972 774 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 893.4518 [] 894.5619 775 DCB_int_01 893.5810 [Um,] 894.1891 776 DCB_int_01 894.5919 so, 895.2037 777 DCB_int_01 895.2037 (pause 0.42) 895.6208 778 DCB_int_01 895.6208 what high school did you go to? 896.7305 779 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 897.1593 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 898.9537 780 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 898.9537 (pause 0.36) 899.3185 781 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 899.3185 and to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 900.3484 782 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 900.3484 (pause 0.75) 901.0961 783 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 901.0961 So. 901.3858 784 DCB_int_01 901.6661 Mm, 901.8903 785 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 901.9055 [] 902.7340 786 DCB_int_01 902.2476 [Mkay.] So you one of the people that sm- So, okay. How as that experience first of all, being a person that moved all around? Cause you know, high school's a big deal. 908.6311 787 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 908.6501 So, this is how it went. 910.0144 788 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 910.0144 (pause 0.13) 910.1426 789 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 910.1426 I went- 910.6595 790 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 910.6595 (pause 0.21) 910.8647 791 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 910.8647 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/- 912.0922 792 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 912.0922 (pause 0.28) 912.3734 793 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 912.3734 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 913.7035 794 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 913.7035 (pause 0.09) 913.7947 795 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 913.7947 Though both of those were 914.7448 796 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 914.7448 (pause 0.51) 915.2569 797 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 915.2569 um, 915.7623 798 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 915.7623 (pause 0.40) 916.1613 799 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 916.1613 Southeast 917.0696 800 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 917.0696 (pause 1.11) 918.1793 801 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 918.1793 elementary schools. 918.9013 802 DCB_int_01 919.0191 Mm-hm. 919.3042 803 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 919.8885 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and then I moved 922.5715 804 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 922.5715 (pause 0.40) 922.9667 805 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 922.9667 and went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ in Maryland. 924.7756 806 DCB_int_01 925.2915 So how did you go to a Southeast elementary school but you lived in 927.9939 807 DCB_int_01 928.0755 Uptown? 928.4814 808 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 928.4799 That's- 928.8106 809 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 929.1450 I don't know. 929.4604 810 DCB_int_01 929.5241 That's how the- Just how the school [was- Oh.] 930.9264 811 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 930.7972 [No], no, no, no. My mom did that. 932.0132 812 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 932.2223 My mom [did that.] 933.0469 813 DCB_int_01 932.5225 [Oh your mom? Okay.] 933.4041 814 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 933.2901 [Mm-hm.] 933.6702 815 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 934.2849 Um, 934.8017 816 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 934.8017 (pause 0.83) 935.6340 817 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 935.6340 I think it was like, more convenient for whoever was going to pick me up, 938.1383 818 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 938.1383 (pause 0.49) 938.6286 819 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 938.6286 or whatever. But 939.6243 820 DCB_int_01 939.7487 Mm. 939.9273 821 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 940.0413 um, 940.5012 822 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 940.5012 (pause 0.70) 941.2004 823 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 941.2004 and then I went to go live with my 942.3760 824 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 942.3760 (pause 0.11) 942.4898 825 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 942.4898 aunt 942.8383 826 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 942.8383 (pause 1.82) 944.6577 827 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 944.6577 in um, 945.5888 828 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 945.5888 (pause 1.55) 947.1431 829 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 947.1431 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. And I went to 949.0964 830 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 949.0964 (pause 0.42) 949.5211 831 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 949.5211 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Middle School and /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 951.6987 832 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 951.6987 (pause 1.20) 952.8996 833 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 952.8996 So, it was very very different- I'm sorry (whispered). 955.3422 834 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 955.3422 (pause 0.14) 955.4828 835 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 955.4828 It was different. 956.3759 836 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 956.3759 (pause 0.52) 956.9003 837 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 956.9003 It was like a culture shock because 958.5002 838 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 958.5002 (pause 0.44) 958.9363 839 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 958.9363 I'm from the city, 959.7885 840 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 959.7885 (pause 0.11) 959.9032 841 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 959.9032 but, 960.2094 842 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 960.2094 (pause 0.97) 961.1823 843 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 961.1823 I went to Maryland, and I got accustomed to the Maryland lifestyle. 963.8729 844 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 963.8729 (pause 0.30) 964.1760 845 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 964.1760 Then I came back to the city. 965.7417 846 DCB_int_01 966.4067 So what's the Maryland lifestyle? Like, what made it so d- Cause that seems like it's just down the street. 969.8602 847 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 970.6887 It is, but it's so different. 972.3093 848 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 972.3093 (pause 0.44) 972.7446 849 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 972.7446 [Like, they] get- they c- 973.5591 850 DCB_int_01 972.7484 [/Like how?/] 973.1513 851 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 974.5830 Me and my friends- 975.5065 852 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 975.5065 (pause 0.25) 975.7573 853 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 975.7573 Me and the people I grew up around, we call Mary- 977.7031 854 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 977.7031 (pause 0.74) 978.4394 855 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 978.4394 guys from Maryland, Maryland Mikes. 980.0621 856 DCB_int_01 980.3851 Mm-hm. 980.7537 857 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 980.8943 Cause they green and, you know. 982.7033 858 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 982.7033 (pause 0.28) 982.9845 859 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 982.9845 They just have a certain 983.9145 860 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 983.9145 (pause 1.34) 985.2523 861 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 985.2523 swag to them. 986.0846 862 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 986.0846 (pause 0.78) 986.8598 863 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 986.8598 But it was different because 988.5979 864 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 988.5979 (pause 1.73) 990.3285 865 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 990.3285 when I got to Eastern, it was 992.3921 866 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 992.3921 (pause 0.14) 992.5289 867 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 992.5289 just really really 993.8162 868 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 993.8162 (pause 0.76) 994.5725 869 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 994.5725 ghetto and 995.7886 870 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 995.7886 (pause 0.45) 996.2370 871 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 996.2370 for it to be the pride of Capitol Hill, it was not the pride of Capitol Hill. 999.2687 872 DCB_int_01 1000.7128 Mm. 1000.9370 873 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1000.9218 Now, I came in, 1002.2215 874 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1002.4115 and I f- 1002.7802 875 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1002.7802 (pause 0.47) 1003.2542 876 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1003.2542 I really felt 1004.1093 877 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1004.1093 (pause 0.34) 1004.4475 878 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1004.4475 like I was the smartest person at school because 1007.1248 879 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1007.1248 (pause 0.99) 1008.1139 880 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1008.1139 they 1008.6003 881 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1008.6003 (pause 0.60) 1009.1969 882 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1009.1969 didn't learn half of what I already knew 1011.4619 883 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1011.4619 (pause 0.64) 1012.1041 884 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1012.1041 yet. 1012.3626 885 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1012.3626 (pause 1.71) 1014.0755 886 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1014.0755 1014.2275 887 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1014.2275 (pause 0.34) 1014.5696 888 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1014.5696 And w- 1014.9458 889 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1014.9458 (pause 0.15) 1015.0954 890 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1015.0954 The reason I went, I uh- 1016.7281 891 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1016.7281 (pause 0.16) 1016.8839 892 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1016.8839 had /RD-SCHOOL-3/ which is Uptown- 1018.5779 893 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1018.5779 (pause 0.48) 1019.0568 894 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1019.0568 I had to go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ because 1020.4971 895 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1020.4971 (pause 0.19) 1020.6871 896 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1020.6871 a credit of mine in Maryland didn't count 1022.6974 897 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1022.6974 (pause 0.31) 1023.0043 898 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1023.0043 in DC so I had to take n- a night school class. 1025.2085 899 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1025.2085 (pause 2.60) 1027.8069 900 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1027.8069 So but, yeah that's why I said that. 1028.9888 901 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1028.9888 (pause 0.35) 1029.3384 902 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1029.3384 And when I got to Eastern, it was 1030.5317 903 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1030.5317 (pause 0.09) 1030.6229 904 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1030.6229 drinking. It was smoking. I could not believe where I was- I was like, oh my God. Ma, you need to get me out of this school. 1036.4326 905 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1036.4326 (pause 0.23) 1036.6606 906 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1036.6606 But I got used to it. 1037.6449 907 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1037.6449 (pause 0.61) 1038.2520 908 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1038.2520 I got used to it. 1038.9094 909 DCB_int_01 1040.9426 And so, what- Okay. Describe a typical day like in high school. Like, what it was- Like when you walked [in or-] 1045.6198 910 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1045.2017 [I'm trying to think] of that movie. I- Not The Substitute. 1047.3859 911 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1047.7052 [It was-] 1048.1346 912 DCB_int_01 1047.7052 [On-] 1048.1346 913 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1048.3588 Uh- (snapping). 1049.2139 914 DCB_int_01 1048.9099 One Eight Seven? 1049.6889 915 DCB_int_01 1050.2171 Or- 1050.6732 916 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1050.6542 [One Eight Seven [too]! 1051.5320 917 DCB_int_01 1051.2394 [It's-] Mm. 1051.8627 918 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1051.8361 And uh 1052.5458 919 DCB_int_01 1053.1918 Dangerous Minds. 1053.9937 920 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1054.0735 Dangerous Minds too. [] 1056.1978 921 DCB_int_01 1055.6506 [Oh that's not] the one you were- [Lean on Me?] 1057.2646 922 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1056.6301 [No.] Lean on Me! 1057.6182 923 DCB_int_01 1057.6030 Mm. 1057.9716 924 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1058.1806 It was just like that. 1059.1193 925 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1059.1193 (pause 0.31) 1059.4271 926 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1059.4271 Like 1059.6931 927 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1059.6931 (pause 0.15) 1059.8414 928 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1059.8414 books- 1060.5178 929 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1060.5178 (pause 0.15) 1060.6698 930 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1060.6698 It w- They had no books. They h- They didn't have anything. And it was just like, /geesh/. 1064.9100 931 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1064.9100 (pause 0.37) 1065.2824 932 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1065.2824 It was no teachers. 1066.7873 933 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1066.7873 (pause 0.95) 1067.7326 934 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1067.7326 It was no- You know, cause you have teachers and you have educators. 1070.7007 935 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1070.7007 (pause 0.69) 1071.3923 936 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1071.3923 Teachers came to get paid. 1072.6607 937 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1072.6607 (pause 1.43) 1074.0896 938 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1074.0896 And I remember one- one of my English teachers, she was like, 1076.5407 939 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1076.5407 (pause 0.62) 1077.1630 940 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1077.1630 I don't care what y'all do, cause I'm still gonna get paid. 1078.8352 941 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1078.8352 (pause 0.65) 1079.4850 942 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1079.4850 So either y'all gonna learn, or y'all not gonna learn. 1081.5096 943 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1081.5096 (pause 0.24) 1081.7452 944 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1081.7452 I'm like, what do you mean, you're still gonna get paid? I want to learn. 1084.3028 945 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1084.3028 (pause 0.32) 1084.6182 946 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1084.6182 This is important. 1085.4619 947 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1085.4619 (pause 0.43) 1085.8875 948 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1085.8875 But people really- 1086.6047 949 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1086.6047 (pause 2.38) 1088.9800 950 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1088.9800 I got introduced to- 1090.3367 951 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1090.3367 (pause 1.22) 1091.5518 952 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1091.5518 Well, 1091.9661 953 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1091.9661 (pause 0.30) 1092.2625 954 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1092.2625 I knew the Uptown girl gangs, but 1093.8662 955 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1093.8662 (pause 0.36) 1094.2310 956 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1094.2310 it was a lot- It was girl gangs from all over the city in Eastern. 1097.6313 957 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1097.6313 (pause 0.10) 1097.7301 958 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1097.7301 Cause people from y- 1098.5375 959 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1098.5375 (pause 0.15) 1098.6916 960 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1098.6916 all of the city went to Eastern. 1099.8355 961 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1099.8355 (pause 0.54) 1100.3713 962 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1100.3713 From Uptown and um, 1101.8259 963 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1101.8259 (pause 1.66) 1103.4904 964 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1103.4904 s- the South side, Northeast 1104.9877 965 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1104.9877 (pause 0.41) 1105.3944 966 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1105.3944 and Southwest. 1106.0860 967 DCB_int_01 1106.9857 So, Uptown- Okay. So, Uptown is only talking about Northwest, right? 1110.0221 968 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1109.9423 Uptown is Northwest. 1110.9219 969 DCB_int_01 1110.9637 And then, 1111.7237 970 DCB_int_01 1111.7237 (pause 0.59) 1112.3166 971 DCB_int_01 1112.3166 the rest n- 1112.9550 972 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1113.0538 [Northeast-] Northeast is like 1115.3834 973 DCB_int_01 1113.0538 [the other- Mm-hm.] 1113.9735 974 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1115.5611 um- 1116.0513 975 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1116.0513 (pause 1.01) 1117.0622 976 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1117.0622 This is considered Northeast. [Northeast], Trinidad, uh, Brookland, 1121.6216 977 DCB_int_01 1118.1414 Right. 1118.4873 978 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1122.0586 all that's Northeast. Southwest is like down by 1125.0570 979 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1125.0570 (pause 0.88) 1125.9415 980 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1125.9415 the Nat Stadium 1126.9296 981 DCB_int_01 1127.1272 Mm-hm. 1127.4844 982 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1127.5870 and all of that. 1128.0621 983 DCB_int_01 1128.4801 And then Southeast is 1129.3580 984 DCB_int_01 1129.3580 (pause 0.47) 1129.8245 985 DCB_int_01 1129.8245 across the river. 1130.6871 986 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1130.9797 Across the river. 1131.7018 987 DCB_int_01 1131.7626 Mm-hm. 1132.1692 988 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1132.3402 Like by um, 1132.9103 989 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1132.9103 (pause 1.61) 1134.5216 990 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1134.5216 Third World and all that. 1135.8128 991 DCB_int_01 1136.3942 Third World? 1137.1352 992 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1137.1884 Thir- 1137.5153 993 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1137.5153 (pause 0.17) 1137.6901 994 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1137.6901 Third World's Third Street. 1138.9746 995 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1138.9746 (pause 1.25) 1140.2277 996 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1140.2277 It's really- Barry Farms, you heard of Barry Farms? MLK. 1143.7202 997 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1143.7202 (pause 1.43) 1145.1519 998 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1145.1519 Which, I think that's gonna be the last 1147.8805 999 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1147.8805 (pause 0.94) 1148.8230 1000 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1148.8230 to get 1149.5071 1001 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1149.5071 (pause 0.19) 1149.6999 1002 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1149.6999 a makeover, 1150.5208 1003 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1150.5208 (pause 0.70) 1151.2238 1004 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1151.2238 but I think that's going to be the biggest makeover. 1152.6641 1005 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1152.6641 (pause 0.33) 1152.9910 1006 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1152.9910 I'm gonna be sad to see that one. 1154.1851 1007 DCB_int_01 1155.5248 You gonna be sad- Why? 1156.2469 1008 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1157.0867 Because I know that 1158.5650 1009 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1158.5650 (pause 1.69) 1160.2514 1010 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1160.2514 it's not gonna be that many black people in the city. 1161.9501 1011 DCB_int_01 1163.6602 That's gonna take the last bit of chocolate out of [Chocolate City?] 1166.2587 1012 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1165.6544 [Yeah, it's not] gonna be Chocolate City anymore- Don't nobody even call it Chocolate [City anymore.] 1169.0167 1013 DCB_int_01 1168.3792 [I know, we like] swirl right now. 1169.9554 1014 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1169.9782 Yeah. Oh, it's bigger than swirl. 1171.4831 1015 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1171.4831 (pause 0.52) 1172.0038 1016 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1172.0038 We got a little shr- 1172.6612 1017 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1172.6612 (pause 0.63) 1173.2883 1018 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1173.2883 pinstripe. 1173.8051 1019 DCB_int_01 1174.6098 We just a little- 1175.2673 1020 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1175.2559 [Mm-hm.] 1176.0045 1021 DCB_int_01 1175.7271 [Mm.] 1176.0539 1022 DCB_int_01 1176.2515 Just a drizzle. 1176.9508 1023 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1177.0610 Yeah. 1177.4524 1024 DCB_int_01 1177.6652 Mm, we like the little fudge on a sundae? 1179.3069 1025 DCB_int_01 1179.3069 (pause 0.86) 1180.1687 1026 DCB_int_01 1180.1687 [On the ice cream su-] 1181.1567 1027 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1180.1801 [But the little bit of- The little bit of-] 1182.0650 1028 DCB_int_01 1181.3315 [Little bit of-] Not a lot- [not] the extra [fudge.] 1183.3875 1029 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1182.3386 [The-] 1182.5248 1030 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1182.5248 (pause 0.54) 1183.0607 1031 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1183.0607 [Uh-uh.] 1183.5661 1032 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1183.7485 You got to pay extra for- [] 1185.8709 1033 DCB_int_01 1184.5494 [] 1186.6054 1034 DCB_int_01 1186.7954 Okay, let's go back to [the girl gangs] at Eastern. Okay. 1189.2380 1035 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1187.5289 [Okay.] 1187.9355 1036 DCB_int_01 1189.5649 I'm sorry. 1189.9753 1037 DCB_int_01 1189.9753 (pause 0.24) 1190.2185 1038 DCB_int_01 1190.2185 So- 1190.8075 1039 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1191.1382 It was so many girl gangs at Eastern. 1192.4949 1040 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1192.4949 (pause 1.00) 1193.4934 1041 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1193.4934 And I was cool with all of 'em though. 1194.6943 1042 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1194.6943 (pause 0.64) 1195.3365 1043 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1195.3365 I didn't- 1195.6558 1044 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1195.6558 (pause 0.13) 1195.7850 1045 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1195.7850 I didn't run with a clique at all. 1197.0657 1046 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1197.0657 (pause 0.60) 1197.6699 1047 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1197.6699 [I never-] 1198.1259 1048 DCB_int_01 1197.6737 [So you just] kind of navigated through all [of /those/.] 1199.8693 1049 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1199.5501 [/Yeah./] And I- and I think that that's 1201.1576 1050 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1201.2944 like now, that's how I know so many people. 1203.9649 1051 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1203.9649 (pause 1.82) 1205.7854 1052 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1205.7854 It was Most Wanted. It was YBS. It was um, 1209.0907 1053 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1209.0907 (pause 0.67) 1209.7595 1054 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1209.7595 1209.8964 1055 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1209.8964 (pause 0.87) 1210.7666 1056 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1210.7666 uh, who else? 1211.8991 1057 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1211.8991 (pause 0.87) 1212.7694 1058 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1212.7694 Yellow Brick. 1213.3964 1059 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1213.3964 (pause 0.55) 1213.9503 1060 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1213.9503 It was so many- 1214.8320 1061 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1214.8320 (pause 0.10) 1214.9308 1062 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1214.9308 so many girl gangs. 1216.3027 1063 DCB_int_01 1217.1995 [And] what is- Okay. U- 1218.4916 1064 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1217.2109 [S-] 1217.4884 1065 DCB_int_01 1218.9657 Not that you were in the gang, but like that you knew about the gangs, like what did you have to do- You know, how did you get in? 1225.1798 1066 DCB_int_01 1225.1798 (pause 0.23) 1225.4138 1067 DCB_int_01 1225.4138 I- Obviously you can't get out, so how did you get in? Like what- 1228.1804 1068 DCB_int_01 1228.1804 (pause 0.53) 1228.7115 1069 DCB_int_01 1228.7115 what was the 1229.1220 1070 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1229.2702 [I think-] 1229.8364 1071 DCB_int_01 1229.4944 [privilege] of being in the [gang?] 1230.9005 1072 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1230.7523 [Some] of 'em, they were f- They used to fight, but 1233.6053 1073 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1234.0044 most- like, m- I know most W- Most of the Most Wanted hunnies were related. 1237.9719 1074 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1237.9719 (pause 0.52) 1238.4919 1075 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1238.4919 They were- 1238.7686 1076 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1238.7686 (pause 0.21) 1238.9826 1077 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1238.9826 related. 1239.3260 1078 DCB_int_01 1239.2801 Mm, like fam- Okay. 1240.2672 1079 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1240.2672 Mm-hm. 1240.7099 1080 DCB_int_01 1241.6376 Hm. 1241.8170 1081 DCB_int_01 1241.8170 (pause 0.64) 1242.4577 1082 DCB_int_01 1242.4577 So, 1243.0984 1083 DCB_int_01 1243.0984 (pause 0.26) 1243.3547 1084 DCB_int_01 1243.3547 was there ever a time- Especially because your high school was doing a lot- 1246.4902 1085 DCB_int_01 1246.4902 (pause 0.21) 1246.6952 1086 DCB_int_01 1246.6952 Was there ever a time you felt like just- 1248.5199 1087 DCB_int_01 1248.5199 (pause 0.28) 1248.7966 1088 DCB_int_01 1248.7966 Not even unsafe, but you felt like scared for your life. You were like, oh my God. 1252.3178 1089 DCB_int_01 1252.3178 (pause 0.24) 1252.5575 1090 DCB_int_01 1252.5575 Something's gonna happen, and I'm'a get caught up. 1254.4231 1091 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1256.0718 1256.2513 1092 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1256.2513 (pause 0.33) 1256.5861 1093 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1256.5861 I don't know. 1257.1653 1094 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1257.1653 (pause 1.00) 1258.1635 1095 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1258.1635 I was- I was never scared. Only when they said the sniper was 1261.0952 1096 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1261.0952 (pause 0.30) 1261.3925 1097 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1261.3925 r- riding around out Eastern. 1262.8225 1098 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1262.8225 (pause 0.37) 1263.1915 1099 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1263.1915 [That's it.] 1263.6990 1100 DCB_int_01 1263.2018 [Oh that was] what? Two thousand two? 1264.7035 1101 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1265.5736 [That's when I] got to Eastern, yep. 1266.8037 1102 DCB_int_01 1265.5839 [I think.] 1265.9939 1103 DCB_int_01 1267.1728 Mm-hm. 1267.5725 1104 DCB_int_01 1267.5725 (pause 0.33) 1267.9006 1105 DCB_int_01 1267.9006 That was [my s-] 1268.5464 1106 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1268.2337 [That's it.] 1268.7770 1107 DCB_int_01 1269.2332 second year in college. I remember that. And I had just come from that Home [Depot, you know the] one? 1273.0196 1108 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1272.2201 [For real?] 1272.7429 1109 DCB_int_01 1273.2913 Was it um, 1273.9217 1110 DCB_int_01 1273.9217 (pause 0.16) 1274.0806 1111 DCB_int_01 1274.0806 1274.1882 1112 DCB_int_01 1274.1882 (pause 0.25) 1274.4394 1113 DCB_int_01 1274.4394 not Ty- Is it Tyson's Corner? 1275.7464 1114 DCB_int_01 1275.7464 (pause 0.49) 1276.2384 1115 DCB_int_01 1276.2384 Not Tyson's [Corner, but-] 1277.2481 1116 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1276.6741 [/???/] 1277.2584 1117 DCB_int_01 1277.4839 The other place. Mm-hm. But I had just went to that Home Depot a couple days before. 1280.9936 1118 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1281.2140 Oh yeah yeah yeah. Somebody did- They- 1282.9259 1119 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1282.9259 (pause 0.29) 1283.2180 1120 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1283.2180 [Uh-] 1283.6845 1121 DCB_int_01 1283.2180 [Over] 1283.6947 1122 DCB_int_01 1283.8229 Alexan- Not Alexan- Um, Fairfax Way. 1286.1075 1123 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1286.3279 I don't know Virginia [like that.] 1287.5632 1124 DCB_int_01 1287.1378 [Okay.] 1287.5529 1125 DCB_int_01 1287.9476 [Mm.] 1288.2295 1126 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1287.9630 [] 1288.1987 1127 DCB_int_01 1288.4499 Mkay. I- Yes. 1289.4135 1128 DCB_int_01 1289.4135 (pause 0.27) 1289.6851 1129 DCB_int_01 1289.6851 [Most-] Most DCers- 1291.7199 1130 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1289.8645 1290.3155 1131 DCB_int_01 1292.2056 Like Virginia is another world. Even though it's right across- 1294.5633 1132 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1294.6658 Right across the brid- It [is.] 1295.8831 1133 DCB_int_01 1295.6806 [It's] another [world.] 1296.6647 1134 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1296.3008 [But it-] 1296.6750 1135 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1296.8903 Even- It's- 1298.0268 1136 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1298.0268 (pause 0.45) 1298.4779 1137 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1298.4779 You got- 1299.1288 1138 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1299.1288 (pause 1.68) 1300.8100 1139 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1300.8100 I guess wherever you're from 1302.6039 1140 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1302.6039 (pause 0.18) 1302.7884 1141 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1302.7884 in a five to ten mile radius, 1304.9103 1142 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1304.9103 (pause 0.15) 1305.0577 1143 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1305.0577 that's what people conform to and identify with. 1308.4046 1144 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1308.4046 (pause 0.48) 1308.8864 1145 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1308.8864 Like, 1309.2196 1146 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1309.2196 (pause 0.54) 1309.7578 1147 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1309.7578 n- Even now, like you said it- it- It's the ninth- Some of Maryland is the- The outskirts of DC, some of Maryland is the ninth ward right? 1315.5893 1148 DCB_int_01 1315.6303 Mm-hm. 1315.9019 1149 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1315.9942 But if you go down in Waldorf and Bryans Road, it's [totally] [different.] 1319.6627 1150 DCB_int_01 1318.9042 [Hm.] 1319.1297 1151 DCB_int_01 1319.1297 (pause 0.24) 1319.3706 1152 DCB_int_01 1319.3706 [Different.] 1319.7243 1153 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1319.9549 It's totally different. Just like in 1321.3952 1154 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1321.3952 (pause 0.33) 1321.7283 1155 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1321.7283 Arlington and Alexandria. It's totally different. 1323.7067 1156 DCB_int_01 1324.7101 So when you- Okay. When you think about DC, 1326.7808 1157 DCB_int_01 1326.7808 (pause 0.27) 1327.0514 1158 DCB_int_01 1327.0514 does all of DC- 1328.1585 1159 DCB_int_01 1328.1585 (pause 0.64) 1328.8031 1160 DCB_int_01 1328.8031 Do all four 1329.4540 1161 DCB_int_01 1329.4540 (pause 0.17) 1329.6283 1162 DCB_int_01 1329.6283 quadrants 1330.4842 1163 DCB_int_01 1330.4842 (pause 0.50) 1330.9814 1164 DCB_int_01 1330.9814 and all eight wards, does that all make up DC? 1333.4724 1165 DCB_int_01 1333.4724 (pause 0.52) 1333.9900 1166 DCB_int_01 1333.9900 Um, and then when you think about DMV, where does that- Where do those boundaries kind of stop? [Cause people talk about the area-] 1339.7344 1167 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1338.4787 [I don't- I don't-] I don't identify with DMV. 1340.9491 1168 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1341.2138 I'm not from the DMV. 1342.0237 1169 DCB_int_01 1342.2287 You just from DC. 1343.1359 1170 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1342.9411 I'm from DC . 1343.8095 1171 DCB_int_01 1343.8624 And that's what a DC person would say. 1345.4264 1172 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1345.5641 [Yeah.] 1345.8152 1173 DCB_int_01 1345.6820 A D- A person from Maryland be like, no, I'm from the area. I'm from [the DMV.] 1349.5261 1174 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1348.7162 [Right. Right. ] 1350.5512 1175 DCB_int_01 1349.8746 [You can tell.] 1350.5563 1176 DCB_int_01 1350.7498 You can always tell if somebody's from 1352.5181 1177 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1352.6411 [Maryland or Virginia.] 1353.4150 1178 DCB_int_01 1352.8153 [DC.] 1353.2869 1179 DCB_int_01 1353.7584 Mm-hm. 1354.0711 1180 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1354.1890 Cause they always say DMV. 1355.0398 1181 DCB_int_01 1355.1372 Mm-hm. 1355.4806 1182 DCB_int_01 1355.4806 (pause 0.29) 1355.7727 1183 DCB_int_01 1355.7727 The ar- 1356.0495 1184 DCB_int_01 1356.0495 (pause 0.20) 1356.2494 1185 DCB_int_01 1356.2494 But DC people don't say that. 1357.3668 1186 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1357.4014 Mm-mm. 1357.7960 1187 DCB_int_01 1357.9857 Ever. 1358.3188 1188 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1358.5802 Mm-mm. 1358.9749 1189 DCB_int_01 1359.1440 Mm. 1359.4567 1190 DCB_int_01 1359.4567 (pause 0.39) 1359.8513 1191 DCB_int_01 1359.8513 ` 1360.3331 1192 DCB_int_01 1360.3331 (pause 0.26) 1360.5945 1193 DCB_int_01 1360.5945 So you had the Maryland Mikes. What was the D- Like, the DC guys? 1363.7826 1194 DCB_int_01 1363.7826 (pause 0.16) 1363.9453 1195 DCB_int_01 1363.9453 Di- Do they have a name like, 1365.4215 1196 DCB_int_01 1365.4215 (pause 0.26) 1365.6829 1197 DCB_int_01 1365.6829 were they- You know, cause they were tougher or- 1368.0303 1198 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1368.4762 Tougher. 1369.0144 1199 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1369.0144 (pause 0.73) 1369.7410 1200 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1369.7410 Uh, no. 1370.3816 1201 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1370.3816 (pause 0.42) 1370.8019 1202 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1370.8019 It just /like/- 1371.5195 1203 DCB_int_01 1371.3042 It was just the dudes. 1372.3754 1204 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1372.6112 Some- 1372.8931 1205 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1372.8931 (pause 0.55) 1373.4415 1206 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1373.4415 Yeah. 1373.8311 1207 DCB_int_01 1374.6922 Mkay. 1375.1278 1208 DCB_int_01 1375.1278 (pause 0.50) 1375.6301 1209 DCB_int_01 1375.6301 Alright, so, what made you- Okay. So let's transition from high school and the 1379.1500 1210 DCB_int_01 1379.1500 (pause 0.46) 1379.6062 1211 DCB_int_01 1379.6062 gangs. So when you- Oh. One other question. When you went to Roosevelt, 1382.6661 1212 DCB_int_01 1382.6661 (pause 1.08) 1383.7412 1213 DCB_int_01 1383.7412 did you only go to the night class there or did you just transfer totally to Roosevelt? 1386.7508 1214 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1386.7508 No I just went to the night school. 1387.9031 1215 DCB_int_01 1388.1388 And then you went to Eastern in the day [time.] 1389.7534 1216 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1389.4561 [Right.] 1389.8046 1217 DCB_int_01 1390.6593 Wow (whispered). 1390.9873 1218 DCB_int_01 1390.9873 (pause 0.22) 1391.2077 1219 DCB_int_01 1391.2077 Uh, how was that? 1391.9868 1220 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1392.3046 /I'd rather had/ went to Roos during the day. 1394.5085 1221 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1394.5085 (pause 1.10) 1395.6105 1222 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1395.6105 Only because it was like, down the street from my house. 1397.5108 1223 DCB_int_01 1397.5057 That's what I thought. If you were- 1398.5683 1224 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1398.5666 And all my friends went there. 1399.5610 1225 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1399.9197 All my neighborhood friends went to Roos. 1401.2831 1226 DCB_int_01 1401.3754 And you went to [Eastern f-] 1402.7131 1227 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1402.2928 [Mm-hm. My] brother went to Roosevelt 1404.1265 1228 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1404.3469 and MacFarland and all of that. 1405.6949 1229 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1405.6949 (pause 0.16) 1405.8589 1230 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1405.8589 Well I- 1406.1510 1231 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1406.1510 (pause 0.19) 1406.3458 1232 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1406.3458 MacFarland closed now [I think.] 1407.7707 1233 DCB_int_01 1407.4990 [They] closed- Yeah they [closed.] Cause we used to um- 1409.8055 1234 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1408.2935 [Yeah.] 1408.7394 1235 DCB_int_01 1410.3732 Only reason I know MacFarland is because when I worked at Six, 1413.3664 1236 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1413.8380 [Oh.] 1415.1245 1237 DCB_int_01 1413.8482 [we did a- We did a middle] school program there, 1416.2367 1238 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1416.8300 [Yeah they closed now.] 1417.7269 1239 DCB_int_01 1416.8402 [and like our kids] traveled, and they came over to the Club and stuff like that. 1420.2179 1240 DCB_int_01 1420.6331 Mm-hm. But they- I think they closed what? A year and a half ago. 1423.0472 1241 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1423.6046 Oh [okay.] 1424.2811 1242 DCB_int_01 1423.9736 [It's] recent. In the last 1425.3267 1243 DCB_int_01 1425.4856 couple years, [they closed.] Um, 1427.2744 1244 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1426.1007 [Mm-hm.] 1426.6645 1245 DCB_int_01 1427.8433 So 1428.3405 1246 DCB_int_01 1428.3405 (pause 1.12) 1429.4566 1247 DCB_int_01 1429.4566 wait. I'm still confused. How did you get to Eastern and your brother was at Roosevelt? 1432.5216 1248 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1433.1726 1433.4340 1249 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1433.4340 (pause 0.12) 1433.5518 1250 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1433.5518 Because for like, a good six months, 1436.7079 1251 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1436.7079 (pause 0.97) 1437.6817 1252 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1437.6817 we were living in Northeast. 1439.2193 1253 DCB_int_01 1441.0748 So you all moved, and then you all moved back to Uptown? 1442.9289 1254 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1442.9187 We- We were on 1445.1175 1255 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1446.1682 /RD-ADDRESS-7/. 1447.1215 1256 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1447.1215 (pause 1.51) 1448.6335 1257 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1448.6335 We were on /RD-ADDRESS-8/. That's Uptown, off Missouri Avenue. 1451.0054 1258 DCB_int_01 1451.0823 Okay. 1451.3590 1259 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1451.6409 And then we moved to 1453.3682 1260 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1453.3682 (pause 1.17) 1454.5419 1261 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1454.5419 Northeast cause my mom got a 1455.7926 1262 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1455.7926 (pause 0.25) 1456.0424 1263 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1456.0424 three bedroom instead of a 1456.9138 1264 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1456.9138 (pause 0.15) 1457.0624 1265 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1457.0624 two bedroom that she originally had 1458.4565 1266 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1458.4565 (pause 0.99) 1459.4509 1267 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1459.4509 Uptown. 1459.9942 1268 DCB_int_01 1460.1736 Okay. 1460.5631 1269 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1460.7117 But then she did not like it. 1461.8342 1270 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1461.8342 (pause 0.28) 1462.1097 1271 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1462.1097 The landlord was on some shady stuff, 1464.1189 1272 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1464.1189 (pause 0.15) 1464.2727 1273 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1464.2727 so we moved 1464.6571 1274 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1464.6571 (pause 0.34) 1464.9954 1275 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1464.9954 back Uptown to Seventh Street. 1466.1742 1276 DCB_int_01 1467.0865 Okay. 1467.4505 1277 DCB_int_01 1467.4505 (pause 0.68) 1468.1321 1278 DCB_int_01 1468.1321 Now I got you. 1469.0086 1279 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1469.0893 Right. 1469.3046 1280 DCB_int_01 1469.5660 Now that [makes sense.] 1470.5887 1281 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1469.9402 [And my brother was] in 1470.9499 1282 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1471.1498 uh, 1471.5086 1283 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1471.5086 (pause 0.36) 1471.8673 1284 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1471.8673 he was- At the time, he was in 1473.3947 1285 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1473.3947 (pause 0.26) 1473.6510 1286 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1473.6510 middle school. 1474.2045 1287 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1474.2045 (pause 0.12) 1474.3224 1288 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1474.3224 He was about to be in middle school. 1475.2911 1289 DCB_int_01 1475.5513 Mm-hm. 1475.8793 1290 DCB_int_01 1475.8793 (pause 0.12) 1476.0023 1291 DCB_int_01 1476.0023 So high school hadn't- So, by the time you all moved back and got settled, that's how he ended up going to Roosevelt. 1480.3590 1292 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1480.4205 Right. 1480.8203 1293 DCB_int_01 1481.2405 [But you had already been to Eastern.] 1482.7257 1294 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1481.3738 [Cause he went- He went to-] He went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/- 1484.1352 1295 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1485.0988 He went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1487.7486 1296 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1487.7486 (pause 0.13) 1487.8819 1297 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1487.8819 [So] he is- 1488.7378 1298 DCB_int_01 1487.9229 [Mm.] 1488.1740 1299 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1489.4951 [He all the way-] 1490.3972 1300 DCB_int_01 1489.5003 [He Northwest all] the way. 1490.7765 1301 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1490.6945 All- Yes. 1491.5094 1302 DCB_int_01 1491.6017 That neighborhood. 1492.4115 1303 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1492.3141 He has that tattooed on his- 1493.8877 1304 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1494.8871 on his ass. 1495.5022 1305 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1495.5022 (pause 0.70) 1496.2031 1306 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1496.2031 Uptown. He got 1497.0078 1307 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1497.0078 (pause 0.15) 1497.1616 1308 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1497.1616 UP town. 1498.1713 1309 DCB_int_01 1499.0887 Okay. 1499.4988 1310 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1499.9703 No, that's not cute. 1500.7955 1311 DCB_int_01 1501.3593 Okay. 1501.6976 1312 DCB_int_01 1501.6976 (pause 0.35) 1502.0500 1313 DCB_int_01 1502.0500 Yes ma'am. 1502.5625 1314 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1502.7522 Mm. 1503.0648 1315 DCB_int_01 1503.0136 I mean, well he love his [neighborhood.] 1504.3974 1316 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1504.2591 [He] do. 1504.6537 1317 DCB_int_01 1505.7967 And his neighborhood love him. 1507.0883 1318 DCB_int_01 1507.0883 (pause 0.96) 1508.0468 1319 DCB_int_01 1508.0468 Was he in a gang? 1508.8259 1320 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1509.1526 He was. 1509.6652 1321 DCB_int_01 1509.8138 Mm. 1510.0701 1322 DCB_int_01 1510.0701 (pause 0.79) 1510.8645 1323 DCB_int_01 1510.8645 How was- 1511.2592 1324 DCB_int_01 1511.2592 (pause 0.56) 1511.8230 1325 DCB_int_01 1511.8230 [/Well-/] 1512.0741 1326 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1511.8332 He still- He- I mean he still [aff- affiliated.] 1514.1294 1327 DCB_int_01 1513.0018 [Yeah I guess you don't get out.] Yeah, you don't really. 1515.0520 1328 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1516.2347 He still get in trouble with them 1518.0594 1329 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1518.0594 (pause 1.00) 1519.0589 1330 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1519.0589 at twenty five. 1519.6791 1331 DCB_int_01 1521.1962 Well, I think you have to grow out of these things. There is something that comes and- 1524.7161 1332 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1525.9360 I think if you've been to jail enough times, you would think that you would get it, 1529.7891 1333 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1529.7891 (pause 1.04) 1530.8295 1334 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1530.8295 but not my- my brother's very hard headed. 1532.4543 1335 DCB_int_01 1533.6998 But it could go either way right? Either you go and you have this experience, like you know what, I need to stop getting into trouble or you go and it makes you harder. Like, look 1540.8127 1336 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1541.7032 [Yeah.] 1542.0159 1337 DCB_int_01 1541.7135 [they] didn't do nothing to me, so I'm'a keep- you know what I mean? Like it's- 1544.0507 1338 DCB_int_01 1544.2506 i- Either you gonna really 1545.5883 1339 DCB_int_01 1545.5883 (pause 0.17) 1545.7575 1340 DCB_int_01 1545.7575 go on the straight and narrow afterwards 1547.1926 1341 DCB_int_01 1547.1926 (pause 0.38) 1547.5770 1342 DCB_int_01 1547.5770 or you just going buck wild and be like [what?] 1549.7182 1343 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1549.3030 [Yeah.] 1549.7541 1344 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1549.9437 My brother is a hood ninja. 1551.3430 1345 DCB_int_01 1551.9221 Okay. 1552.3476 1346 DCB_int_01 1552.3476 (pause 0.24) 1552.5833 1347 DCB_int_01 1552.5833 And- and what is a hood ninja? 1553.7827 1348 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1554.2337 I don't say the N word. 1555.0743 1349 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1555.0743 (pause 0.38) 1555.4574 1350 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1555.4574 Alright? 1555.8060 1351 DCB_int_01 1555.8829 Mm-mm. Mkay, so I got you. I got [you.] 1558.3072 1352 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1558.0561 [So I] substitute it with ninja. 1559.2964 1353 DCB_int_01 1559.7167 Okay, little hood- 1560.7674 1354 DCB_int_01 1560.7674 (pause 0.23) 1560.9929 1355 DCB_int_01 1560.9929 I'm not e- 1561.4081 1356 DCB_int_01 1561.4081 (pause 0.32) 1561.7297 1357 DCB_int_01 1561.7297 You know, I appreciate that. I might have to adopt that if you don't mind. 1564.4052 1358 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1564.4155 That's fine. 1565.0152 1359 DCB_int_01 1565.0920 Great, thank you. [I might e- I] might- 1566.6861 1360 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1565.6251 [Take it and run with it.] 1566.4158 1361 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1567.7765 [] 1569.2065 1362 DCB_int_01 1568.4633 [/I might run off./] 1569.1809 1363 DCB_int_01 1569.5807 Uh, okay. So how did you end up going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 1571.8923 1364 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1573.4555 Well, 1573.8810 1365 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1573.8810 (pause 0.61) 1574.4947 1366 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1574.4947 first I went- 1575.1969 1367 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1575.1969 (pause 0.30) 1575.4993 1368 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1575.4993 I was online. University of Phoenix. [Cause after] high school I didn't- I was so turned off of school. 1580.1994 1369 DCB_int_01 1577.2471 [Hm.] 1577.4470 1370 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1580.6094 I 1580.8606 1371 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1580.8606 (pause 0.18) 1581.0438 1372 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1581.0438 didn't go back to school for like two to three years. 1583.4733 1373 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1583.4733 (pause 1.55) 1585.0212 1374 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1585.0212 So I was a late 1586.3794 1375 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1586.3794 (pause 0.81) 1587.1944 1376 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1587.1944 first time college student. 1588.4642 1377 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1588.4642 (pause 1.07) 1589.5303 1378 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1589.5303 But I didn't- My mom was sick, so I didn't want to go away. 1592.3442 1379 DCB_int_01 1592.9131 Mm. 1593.0823 1380 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1593.7383 So I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1594.7532 1381 DCB_int_01 1596.4126 How was that experience? 1597.5555 1382 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1597.7042 It was fun. 1598.2936 1383 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1598.2936 (pause 0.83) 1599.1188 1384 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1599.1188 It was- Then that- It was like 1601.4086 1385 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1601.4086 (pause 0.58) 1601.9878 1386 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1601.9878 the thirteenth grade. 1603.2794 1387 DCB_int_01 1603.9201 1604.4604 1388 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1604.4685 Because everybody I knew from all over the place 1607.1645 1389 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1607.1645 (pause 0.52) 1607.6860 1390 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1607.6860 that wanted to better themselves, they went /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1609.9156 1391 DCB_int_01 1610.5358 And it's- it's- Do you feel like it's a different world? Like, cause it's in the middle of like- Cause it's by- You went to the Van Ness like 1616.0034 1392 DCB_int_01 1616.0034 (pause 0.28) 1616.2802 1393 DCB_int_01 1616.2802 right [off Van-] mm-hm. 1617.3705 1394 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1616.4134 [Yeah, Uptown.] 1617.0849 1395 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1617.0849 (pause 0.25) 1617.3360 1396 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1617.3360 Mm-hm. 1617.7153 1397 DCB_int_01 1618.0023 Um, 1618.5559 1398 DCB_int_01 1618.5559 (pause 0.29) 1618.8480 1399 DCB_int_01 1618.8480 but it's kind of like this concrete jungle kind of thing. Like, it's this big- 1622.2398 1400 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1622.5627 Mm-hm. 1622.9274 1401 DCB_int_01 1622.8241 In the middle [of just everything.] 1624.1468 1402 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1623.3469 [Have you]- Have you ever seen the old Wood- You saw the old Woodson? 1626.4478 1403 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1626.8425 It remind me- me of the old Woodson high school. 1628.9837 1404 DCB_int_01 1628.9785 Mm-hm. I don't think I did- I may have and not even known [I s- saw it.] 1632.5664 1405 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1631.7873 [Yeah. It looked like a-] a jail. They called it a jail. 1634.4269 1406 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1634.8152 But it looked like uh, it looked like that. 1636.6501 1407 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1636.6501 (pause 0.46) 1637.1114 1408 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1637.1114 But yeah- That was- It was fun. It was 1639.6639 1409 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1639.6639 (pause 1.51) 1641.1746 1410 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1641.1746 um- 1641.8409 1411 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1641.8409 (pause 0.35) 1642.1895 1412 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1642.1895 Even going on the train, riding the train up there, 1644.5369 1413 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1644.5369 (pause 0.71) 1645.2494 1414 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1645.2494 it was like, okay. 1646.6435 1415 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1646.6435 (pause 0.31) 1646.9549 1416 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1646.9549 You can tell we about to hit Silver Spring or get close to Silver Spring because 1650.5888 1417 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1650.5888 (pause 0.38) 1650.9732 1418 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1650.9732 it's like not a lot of black people on this train no more 1653.3361 1419 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1653.3361 (pause 0.88) 1654.2113 1420 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1654.2113 going up the Van Ness. 1655.2466 1421 DCB_int_01 1655.5439 Mm-hm. 1656.0308 1422 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1656.6510 But it was a good experience. I met a lot of good people. 1658.6909 1423 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1658.6909 (pause 0.37) 1659.0651 1424 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1659.0651 I met my son's dad there. 1660.2388 1425 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1660.2388 (pause 1.57) 1661.8111 1426 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1661.8111 [Well actually], I met him through my brother, but we went to school together 1664.5071 1427 DCB_int_01 1661.8111 [?] 1662.1698 1428 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1665.0196 too. 1665.2554 1429 DCB_int_01 1665.5321 At /RD-SCHOOL-2/ or /RD-SCHOOL-1/ 1666.3881 1430 DCB_int_01 1666.3881 (pause 0.19) 1666.5829 1431 DCB_int_01 1666.5829 or at [/RD-SCHOOL-3/?] 1667.3402 1432 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1667.0070 [/RD-SCHOOL-3/] 1667.5093 1433 DCB_int_01 1667.5811 /RD-SCHOOL-3/. Okay. So you didn't know him in high school. 1669.5134 1434 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1669.6774 Mm-mm. 1670.0977 1435 DCB_int_01 1670.2668 Okay. 1670.6256 1436 DCB_int_01 1670.6256 (pause 0.50) 1671.1228 1437 DCB_int_01 1671.1228 But he knew your brother. 1672.0556 1438 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1672.3734 I met- 1672.8859 1439 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1672.8859 (pause 0.19) 1673.0756 1440 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1673.0756 I met him 1673.9110 1441 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1673.9110 (pause 0.82) 1674.7298 1442 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1674.7298 right on- outside of my house. 1676.3495 1443 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1676.3495 (pause 0.35) 1676.7031 1444 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1676.7031 My brother introduced me. He was one of my brother's friends at first. 1679.1736 1445 DCB_int_01 1680.3614 Got you. 1680.7664 1446 DCB_int_01 1680.7664 (pause 0.34) 1681.1098 1447 DCB_int_01 1681.1098 And 1681.8888 1448 DCB_int_01 1681.8888 (pause 0.35) 1682.2425 1449 DCB_int_01 1682.2425 um, so what did you do? Like, what did you major in? 1684.5438 1450 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1685.1538 Criminal Justice. 1685.8149 1451 DCB_int_01 1686.2711 Mm-hm. 1686.8605 1452 DCB_int_01 1686.8605 (pause 0.74) 1687.6025 1453 DCB_int_01 1687.6025 And now you not doing that at all. 1689.1708 1454 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1689.4169 Mm-hm. 1689.7039 1455 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1689.7039 (pause 0.35) 1690.0576 1456 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1690.0576 I'm still pursuing it. 1691.1083 1457 DCB_int_01 1692.0616 But on- Okay. 1692.7535 1458 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1692.8855 Oh no, I'm not doing that at all. [Nothing- Not-] Nothing in my field, no. 1696.1095 1459 DCB_int_01 1694.1362 [Not currently.] 1694.8230 1460 DCB_int_01 1696.3196 No. 1696.5554 1461 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1696.9142 [/No./] 1697.2678 1462 DCB_int_01 1696.9142 [Mm-mm.] 1697.2678 1463 DCB_int_01 1697.9239 But what do you ultimately do then, if you want to use that like- 1701.2593 1464 DCB_int_01 1701.2593 (pause 0.22) 1701.4746 1465 DCB_int_01 1701.4746 What's your ultimate [goal?] 1702.7149 1466 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1702.2229 [] 1702.7047 1467 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1703.4581 To be a youth advocate. 1704.5601 1468 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1704.5601 (pause 1.58) 1706.1439 1469 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1706.1439 Between a youth advocate 1707.6187 1470 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1707.6187 (pause 0.56) 1708.1825 1471 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1708.1825 um- 1708.7463 1472 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1708.7463 (pause 0.59) 1709.3358 1473 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1709.3358 Cause forensic science is 1711.0784 1474 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1711.0784 (pause 0.47) 1711.5448 1475 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1711.5448 my minor. 1712.0574 1476 DCB_int_01 1712.5289 Mm. And that's a big- 1714.1986 1477 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1714.5368 Yeah. 1714.8341 1478 DCB_int_01 1714.8136 Yeah. It's a big deal. 1715.9258 1479 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1716.3102 But um, 1717.0176 1480 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1717.0176 (pause 0.28) 1717.2943 1481 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1717.2943 my brother actually 1718.4836 1482 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1718.4836 (pause 0.20) 1718.6880 1483 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1718.6880 inspired me to want to do youth advocacy because he got in trouble so much. 1722.4390 1484 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1722.4390 (pause 0.89) 1723.3257 1485 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1723.3257 And he didn't really have- 1724.7506 1486 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1724.7506 (pause 0.33) 1725.0786 1487 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1725.0786 What I noticed 1725.8387 1488 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1725.8387 (pause 0.13) 1725.9684 1489 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1725.9684 him and his friends, 1727.0917 1490 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1727.0917 (pause 0.86) 1727.9528 1491 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1727.9528 they didn't really have the resources to better themselves. Like, especially after they 1732.0275 1492 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1732.0275 (pause 0.16) 1732.1864 1493 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1732.1864 got a record, 1732.8783 1494 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1732.8783 (pause 0.18) 1733.0565 1495 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1733.0565 it's really nothing that 1734.3635 1496 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1734.3635 (pause 0.88) 1735.2450 1497 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1735.2450 they [can] do for real. 1736.5264 1498 DCB_int_01 1735.5269 [Mm.] 1735.7678 1499 DCB_int_01 1736.6955 Yeah. 1737.0441 1500 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1738.8226 But 1739.1660 1501 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1739.1660 (pause 1.54) 1740.7024 1502 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1740.7024 he inspired me. 1741.3841 1503 DCB_int_01 1742.1836 Mkay. So don't give up because 1744.3158 1504 DCB_int_01 1744.3158 (pause 0.36) 1744.6797 1505 DCB_int_01 1744.6797 just as it's just like him, I think it's you know, four or five more 1748.1330 1506 DCB_int_01 1748.1330 (pause 0.71) 1748.8455 1507 DCB_int_01 1748.8455 that still need somebody to be the voice, [you know what I mean?] That are still in that age- that- 1753.6211 1508 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1751.2852 [Mm-hm.] 1751.8439 1509 DCB_int_01 1753.8210 that age where they can change, and 1755.6560 1510 DCB_int_01 1755.6560 (pause 0.26) 1755.9122 1511 DCB_int_01 1755.9122 they wanna change. 1756.8963 1512 DCB_int_01 1756.8963 (pause 0.31) 1757.2038 1513 DCB_int_01 1757.2038 Cause after a point, 1757.9060 1514 DCB_int_01 1757.9060 (pause 0.29) 1758.1982 1515 DCB_int_01 1758.1982 you have to want it, and when you get older I think it's harder to want it. 1761.3132 1516 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1761.3952 Yeah. 1761.7642 1517 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1761.7642 (pause 0.45) 1762.2102 1518 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1762.2102 And that's- that's- And that's another like um, 1764.4449 1519 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1764.4449 (pause 0.23) 1764.6704 1520 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1764.6704 dilemma is like okay, 1765.9928 1521 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1765.9928 (pause 0.66) 1766.6527 1522 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1766.6527 now 1767.1550 1523 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1767.1550 (pause 0.33) 1767.4881 1524 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1767.4881 you're not a youth 1768.3851 1525 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1768.3851 (pause 0.30) 1768.6824 1526 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1768.6824 anymore. You're still young 1769.8151 1527 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1769.8151 (pause 0.46) 1770.2712 1528 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1770.2712 but 1770.6557 1529 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1770.6557 (pause 0.44) 1771.0913 1530 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1771.0913 is it adult advocacy. Like, 1772.7417 1531 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1772.7417 (pause 0.66) 1773.4016 1532 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1773.4016 what are you doing? 1774.1346 1533 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1774.1346 (pause 0.69) 1774.8265 1534 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1774.8265 Human development? Like what it- what do you- Where do you want to go? I was just having this conversation with my brother 1779.1729 1535 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1779.1729 (pause 1.19) 1780.3659 1536 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1780.3659 about 1780.7882 1537 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1780.7882 (pause 0.10) 1780.8929 1538 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1780.8929 this hood stuff 1781.8164 1539 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1781.8164 (pause 0.57) 1782.3853 1540 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1782.3853 the other day. 1782.8876 1541 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1782.8876 (pause 0.66) 1783.5488 1542 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1783.5488 Cause it's- it's frustrating. 1784.6713 1543 DCB_int_01 1785.0198 Mm, and- but it's real life. 1786.1525 1544 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1786.2589 It's real life, 1786.9047 1545 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1786.9047 (pause 0.28) 1787.1815 1546 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1787.1815 and he really doesn't feel like he can go anywhere or do anything 1790.0927 1547 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1790.0927 (pause 0.48) 1790.5694 1548 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1790.5694 because of where he's from 1792.2044 1549 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1792.2044 (pause 0.70) 1792.9054 1550 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1792.9054 and what's the stigma attached to his name. 1795.1606 1551 DCB_int_01 1796.7700 Mm. And he doesn't want to leave. 1798.1333 1552 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1798.7830 No, and I'm trying to get him to. 1800.1105 1553 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1800.1105 (pause 0.95) 1801.0587 1554 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1801.0587 Go down to North Carolina. Go ahead. 1802.3401 1555 DCB_int_01 1802.8731 [Mm-hm.] 1803.2268 1556 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1803.0218 [His girlfriend] down there. 1803.8675 1557 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1804.4825 I want him to go down there. 1805.2257 1558 DCB_int_01 1805.3064 See? That might be a good- Just a fresh start. 1807.5770 1559 DCB_int_01 1807.5770 (pause 0.38) 1807.9614 1560 DCB_int_01 1807.9614 Do you think- 1808.8328 1561 DCB_int_01 1808.8328 (pause 0.26) 1809.0942 1562 DCB_int_01 1809.0942 thinking about like, race. Cause I think 1810.8419 1563 DCB_int_01 1810.8419 (pause 1.63) 1812.4757 1564 DCB_int_01 1812.4757 race is a big deal in this city- Just like we were joking about Chocolate City. 1815.4023 1565 DCB_int_01 1815.4023 (pause 0.46) 1815.8636 1566 DCB_int_01 1815.8636 Do you think 1816.7657 1567 DCB_int_01 1816.7657 (pause 0.94) 1817.7088 1568 DCB_int_01 1817.7088 the racial relations in this city are good, 1821.2031 1569 DCB_int_01 1821.2031 (pause 0.47) 1821.6746 1570 DCB_int_01 1821.6746 they're not so good. Do you think there's still racism like, overtly? 1826.0967 1571 DCB_int_01 1826.0967 (pause 0.48) 1826.5784 1572 DCB_int_01 1826.5784 You know, how do you feel 1827.6702 1573 DCB_int_01 1827.6702 (pause 0.81) 1828.4851 1574 DCB_int_01 1828.4851 about blacks in this city 1830.1253 1575 DCB_int_01 1830.1253 (pause 0.61) 1830.7352 1576 DCB_int_01 1830.7352 um, 1831.2888 1577 DCB_int_01 1831.2888 (pause 0.35) 1831.6424 1578 DCB_int_01 1831.6424 and their rac- their relationship with whites, 1833.9373 1579 DCB_int_01 1833.9373 (pause 0.21) 1834.1424 1580 DCB_int_01 1834.1424 their relationships with other races, other ethnicities. 1837.7046 1581 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1838.2107 Personally, 1839.1589 1582 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1839.1589 (pause 0.29) 1839.4511 1583 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1839.4511 um, 1840.1635 1584 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1840.1635 (pause 2.04) 1842.2035 1585 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1842.2035 it's a culture block. 1843.5156 1586 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1843.5156 (pause 0.84) 1844.3562 1587 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1844.3562 It's a culture block because 1846.3999 1588 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1846.3999 (pause 0.44) 1846.8356 1589 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1846.8356 white people- 1847.6147 1590 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1847.6147 (pause 1.21) 1848.8294 1591 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1848.8294 A lot of 1849.4752 1592 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1849.4752 (pause 0.81) 1850.2902 1593 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1850.2902 home owners are- that are looking to buy- 1853.3796 1594 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1853.3796 (pause 0.56) 1853.9434 1595 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1853.9434 Majority are not from 1855.2709 1596 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1855.2709 (pause 0.36) 1855.6348 1597 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1855.6348 DC. 1855.9884 1598 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1855.9884 (pause 0.40) 1856.3882 1599 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1856.3882 They're from out of town. They're fresh out of school, 1858.4179 1600 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1858.4179 (pause 0.37) 1858.7857 1601 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1858.7857 and they're coming into the city. 1860.5334 1602 DCB_int_01 1860.8102 Mm-hm. 1861.3023 1603 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1861.3535 And you got people who've been here, who's doing the right thing and 1864.4749 1604 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1864.4749 (pause 0.80) 1865.2732 1605 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1865.2732 just didn't get a good- 1866.2317 1606 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1866.2317 (pause 0.99) 1867.2260 1607 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1867.2260 a good break in life, 1868.5125 1608 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1868.5125 (pause 0.25) 1868.7637 1609 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1868.7637 and like, 1869.1583 1610 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1869.1583 (pause 1.59) 1870.7472 1611 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1870.7472 oh, you coming in here. You take- trying to take everything 1873.0524 1612 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1873.0524 (pause 0.42) 1873.4727 1613 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1873.4727 that we have that, you don't even know like, the depth of our story. This, that, and the third. 1877.8447 1614 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1877.8447 (pause 0.66) 1878.5046 1615 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1878.5046 And then on the other /shoe/, they looking at like 1880.1089 1616 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1880.1089 (pause 1.02) 1881.1289 1617 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1881.1289 you're not doing nothing with this city. 1882.6563 1618 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1882.6563 (pause 0.37) 1883.0304 1619 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1883.0304 You're not valuing it, 1884.3938 1620 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1884.3938 (pause 0.47) 1884.8641 1621 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1884.8641 like 1885.2024 1622 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1885.2024 (pause 0.21) 1885.4125 1623 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1885.4125 y'all getting killed, and 1886.9604 1624 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1886.9604 (pause 0.73) 1887.6933 1625 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1887.6933 you need to move up- Go ahead. Go /back down/ Maryland because we're coming and we're taking over everything. 1892.6586 1626 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1892.6586 (pause 2.12) 1894.7755 1627 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1894.7755 But I do think it's a culture block. 1896.1235 1628 DCB_int_01 1896.9692 Hm. 1897.1793 1629 DCB_int_01 1897.1793 (pause 0.23) 1897.4138 1630 DCB_int_01 1897.4138 Do you see that in your daily interactions 1899.2077 1631 DCB_int_01 1899.2077 (pause 0.32) 1899.5306 1632 DCB_int_01 1899.5306 or- 1899.9612 1633 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1900.8479 Not daily. I wouldn't say daily. 1902.4009 1634 DCB_int_01 1903.5490 But just in certain things like, 1905.1315 1635 DCB_int_01 1905.1315 (pause 0.20) 1905.3314 1636 DCB_int_01 1905.3314 kind of- 1905.6748 1637 DCB_int_01 1905.6748 (pause 0.22) 1905.8952 1638 DCB_int_01 1905.8952 Well gentrification we see it in the neighborhood- People moving out. 1908.4835 1639 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1908.5040 Mm-hm. 1909.0576 1640 DCB_int_01 1909.0320 Um, 1909.3856 1641 DCB_int_01 1909.5445 but like, if you go to Walmart, or if you go to Safeway, you're not gonna feel 1912.9568 1642 DCB_int_01 1912.9568 (pause 0.80) 1913.7615 1643 DCB_int_01 1913.7615 like you being watched [or]- 1915.1864 1644 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1914.9762 [Mm-mm.] It's- it's actually- DC is so diverse. 1918.3885 1645 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1918.5782 It's [becoming] so- 1919.4188 1646 DCB_int_01 1918.7166 [Hm.] 1919.0036 1647 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1919.7980 It's a lot of Hispanic and um, 1922.7452 1648 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1922.7452 (pause 1.92) 1924.6660 1649 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1924.6660 East African 1925.6859 1650 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1925.6859 (pause 1.72) 1927.4030 1651 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1927.4030 cultures here. It's a lot of Ethiopians and Eritreans and 1930.8421 1652 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1930.8421 (pause 1.03) 1931.8762 1653 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1931.8762 Spanish people, outside of white people. 1933.9166 1654 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1933.9166 (pause 2.19) 1936.1047 1655 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1936.1047 I think it could be good, 1937.1233 1656 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1937.1233 (pause 0.10) 1937.2230 1657 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1937.2230 but- 1937.6988 1658 DCB_int_01 1938.8200 We still got a ways to go. 1939.7809 1659 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1939.7835 We still got a ways to go. 1940.8496 1660 DCB_int_01 1941.3981 But I think it- I- I agree. Like, it is very diverse. That's the one thing- 1945.3690 1661 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1945.3485 I like- I love th- I love that 1946.6863 1662 DCB_int_01 1946.7632 Mm-hm. 1947.0194 1663 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1946.9938 about it. 1947.3526 1664 DCB_int_01 1947.7780 You can l- 1948.5007 1665 DCB_int_01 1948.5007 (pause 0.96) 1949.4643 1666 DCB_int_01 1949.4643 do- Like eighth street- If you just go down, you can 1951.5286 1667 DCB_int_01 1951.5286 (pause 0.50) 1952.0309 1668 DCB_int_01 1952.0309 get Ethiopian food. You can get [Japanese-] I mean like, you can go down eighth street and have almost 1957.6266 1669 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1954.3220 [Thai food, yep.] 1955.6853 1670 DCB_int_01 1957.8470 like fifteen [countries.] 1959.1745 1671 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1958.9131 [And] eighth street did not used to look like that. 1961.0197 1672 DCB_int_01 1961.5681 Mm. 1961.8449 1673 DCB_int_01 1961.8449 (pause 0.20) 1962.0448 1674 DCB_int_01 1962.0448 What was [it-] 1962.5624 1675 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1962.3472 [It] was so run down, and like- 1964.4166 1676 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1965.0983 It's almost sad because 1966.9537 1677 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1966.9537 (pause 0.42) 1967.3689 1678 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1967.3689 I remember how 1968.9321 1679 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1968.9321 (pause 0.50) 1969.4344 1680 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1969.4344 Columbia Heights used to look. 1970.7260 1681 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1970.7260 (pause 0.18) 1970.9093 1682 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1970.9093 It used to look 1971.5551 1683 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1971.5551 (pause 0.43) 1971.9805 1684 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1971.9805 run down and beat up. 1973.1799 1685 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1973.1799 (pause 0.34) 1973.5181 1686 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1973.5181 And now they're building it up. 1974.9276 1687 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1974.9276 (pause 0.56) 1975.4915 1688 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1975.4915 And 1975.8605 1689 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1975.8605 (pause 0.37) 1976.2295 1690 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1976.2295 Columbia Heights, it was 1977.3456 1691 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1977.3456 (pause 0.22) 1977.5609 1692 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1977.5609 majority Spanish people there, 1978.8679 1693 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1978.8679 (pause 0.16) 1979.0268 1694 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1979.0268 and now they're- they have to move away becau- They can't afford the rent. 1982.9119 1695 DCB_int_01 1983.4949 Mm. 1983.8793 1696 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1983.9921 You know? So, they're building that up even 1986.6522 1697 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1986.6522 (pause 0.77) 1987.4210 1698 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1987.4210 close to Silver Spring. It's like, 1988.4871 1699 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1988.4871 (pause 0.32) 1988.8100 1700 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1988.8100 they c- 1989.4251 1701 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1989.4251 (pause 0.21) 1989.6301 1702 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1989.6301 start at Silver Spring then moving their way down. 1991.3715 1703 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1991.3715 (pause 0.42) 1991.7918 1704 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1991.7918 Or started on the outskirts, 1993.4678 1705 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1993.4678 (pause 0.23) 1993.6984 1706 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1993.6984 like Virginia, and it just- 1995.2002 1707 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1995.2002 (pause 0.29) 1995.4872 1708 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 1995.4872 it's taken over. 1996.2355 1709 DCB_int_01 1997.4029 Yeah. 1997.8847 1710 DCB_int_01 1997.8847 (pause 0.39) 1998.2742 1711 DCB_int_01 1998.2742 What is your favorite or where are some of your favorite um, hang out spots? 2002.2464 1712 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2004.1518 2004.3517 1713 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2004.3517 (pause 1.65) 2005.9970 1714 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2005.9970 Uptown. 2006.3763 1715 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2006.3763 (pause 0.20) 2006.5762 1716 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2006.5762 2007.2141 1717 DCB_int_01 2007.2141 Like what? 2007.5808 1718 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2007.9396 I used to 2008.5649 1719 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2008.5649 (pause 0.31) 2008.8724 1720 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2008.8724 like, hang out, like- What do you mean hang out? 2010.8188 1721 DCB_int_01 2011.3775 Like where do you- Like, okay. It's the weekend, where do you go? 2013.4943 1722 DCB_int_01 2013.4943 (pause 0.24) 2013.7301 1723 DCB_int_01 2013.7301 What'd you do for the fourth of July? 2014.7859 1724 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2015.5291 I was on /Clinton/. 2016.3697 1725 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2016.3697 (pause 0.47) 2016.8348 1726 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2016.8348 We went to a cook out. 2017.3884 1727 DCB_int_01 2018.7261 Which is totally not 2019.7102 1728 DCB_int_01 2019.7102 (pause 0.50) 2020.2125 1729 DCB_int_01 2020.2125 DC at all. 2020.9455 1730 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2020.9352 Mm-mm. It wasn't. 2022.0115 1731 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2022.1909 I um- 2022.9905 1732 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2022.9905 (pause 0.62) 2023.6094 1733 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2023.6094 I didn't want to stay around 2025.8083 1734 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2025.8083 (pause 0.19) 2025.9979 1735 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2025.9979 where I live 2026.9051 1736 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2026.9051 (pause 0.62) 2027.5202 1737 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2027.5202 because I knew that it was gonna be a lot of people outside 2030.4917 1738 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2030.4917 (pause 0.81) 2031.3066 1739 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2031.3066 doing a lot of- 2032.0088 1740 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2032.0088 (pause 0.20) 2032.2087 1741 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2032.2087 Like, 2032.5521 1742 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2032.5521 (pause 0.25) 2032.8032 1743 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2032.8032 2033.1672 1744 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2033.1672 (pause 0.66) 2033.8232 1745 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2033.8232 2034.0846 1746 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2034.0846 (pause 0.27) 2034.3511 1747 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2034.3511 even though 2035.2891 1748 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2035.2891 (pause 0.35) 2035.6428 1749 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2035.6428 my a- 2036.0733 1750 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2036.0733 (pause 0.19) 2036.2668 1751 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2036.2668 Uh, they just recently renovated my apartments. I'm like the first one in my apartment, but 2040.6337 1752 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2040.6337 (pause 1.03) 2041.6588 1753 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2041.6588 outside of my apartment- outside of those bricks outside of my apartment, it's still a lot of 2046.9419 1754 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2046.9419 (pause 0.17) 2047.1161 1755 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2047.1161 drug addicts, 2047.9465 1756 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2047.9465 (pause 0.17) 2048.1207 1757 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2048.1207 junkies, 2049.0074 1758 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2049.0074 (pause 0.29) 2049.2932 1759 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2049.2932 alcoholics, 2050.2311 1760 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2050.2311 (pause 0.63) 2050.8616 1761 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2050.8616 kids running around with no parents. 2052.9630 1762 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2052.9630 (pause 0.68) 2053.6396 1763 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2053.6396 And I have a son, so I d- I don't- 2055.7769 1764 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2055.7769 (pause 2.06) 2057.8361 1765 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2057.8361 He doesn't- I don't want him to know 2059.6146 1766 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2059.6146 (pause 2.08) 2061.6904 1767 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2061.6904 how to be that- that kid. I don't want him to get caught up in that- 2064.4005 1768 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2064.4005 (pause 0.33) 2064.7337 1769 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2064.7337 that lifestyle. 2065.4461 1770 DCB_int_01 2065.5794 Mm-hm. 2066.0612 1771 DCB_int_01 2066.0612 (pause 1.51) 2067.5681 1772 DCB_int_01 2067.5681 So you decided to- to leave out. But if you're going out with your girls, where do y'all go? Like if you're just having a girl's night 2072.4719 1773 DCB_int_01 2072.4719 (pause 0.49) 2072.9588 1774 DCB_int_01 2072.9588 or you know, you're hanging out- 2074.4144 1775 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2074.5528 We like to go downtown. 2075.4498 1776 DCB_int_01 2075.9252 And do what? 2076.3762 1777 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2076.8887 2077.0835 1778 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2077.0835 (pause 0.23) 2077.3090 1779 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2077.3090 Uh, we'll go to 2079.1850 1780 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2079.1850 (pause 0.77) 2079.9589 1781 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2079.9589 a lounge or 2081.4965 1782 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2081.4965 (pause 0.21) 2081.7067 1783 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2081.7067 a bar- I don't drink so I'll go with them and just hang out with them 2084.8627 1784 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2084.8627 (pause 0.51) 2085.3752 1785 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2085.3752 at the bar or something. 2086.1492 1786 DCB_int_01 2087.5228 Um, 2088.1789 1787 DCB_int_01 2088.1789 (pause 2.48) 2090.6583 1788 DCB_int_01 2090.6583 okay. So I know you s- You a DC native so you can tell me about this, go go. 2095.2918 1789 DCB_int_01 2095.2918 (pause 0.95) 2096.2387 1790 DCB_int_01 2096.2387 I- I didn't know anything about go go until [I came-] 2099.1397 1791 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2098.3299 [I love] go go. 2099.4319 1792 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2099.8391 I- I just went to- I went to go see Backyard uh- 2103.7362 1793 DCB_int_01 2103.7502 That is like 2104.2771 1794 DCB_int_01 2104.2771 (pause 0.29) 2104.5662 1795 DCB_int_01 2104.5662 one of the most popular ones [in fact.] 2106.1865 1796 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2105.7972 [On Friday.] 2106.6132 1797 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2107.0923 [On this past Friday.] 2107.9176 1798 DCB_int_01 2107.3721 [Where?] 2107.7125 1799 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2108.5565 They were actually at 2109.6709 1800 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2109.6709 (pause 1.17) 2110.8366 1801 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2110.8366 /Saint E's/, you- The old /Saint E's/? 2112.4593 1802 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2112.4593 (pause 0.28) 2112.7426 1803 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2112.7426 The old mental hospital? 2113.8337 1804 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2113.8337 (pause 0.25) 2114.0855 1805 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2114.0855 Off MLK? 2114.8735 1806 DCB_int_01 2117.0511 [I /do/. Mm-hm.] 2117.9510 1807 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2117.0558 [They redid it,] 2117.7261 1808 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2118.0478 and so they made it into a pavilion. 2119.6239 1809 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2119.6239 (pause 0.33) 2119.9503 1810 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2119.9503 And it was my first time going. It was so nice. 2121.7268 1811 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2121.7268 (pause 1.64) 2123.3635 1812 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2123.3635 It was really really nice. 2124.3334 1813 DCB_int_01 2124.1990 So tell me about go go. Like, 2125.4933 1814 DCB_int_01 2126.3466 your experience, do you remember your f- like, 2128.2444 1815 DCB_int_01 2128.2444 (pause 0.27) 2128.5102 1816 DCB_int_01 2128.5102 first go go? [Or?] 2129.9091 1817 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2129.7039 [My] first go go was at the Black Hole 2131.7917 1818 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2132.1601 Uptown 2132.6824 1819 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2132.6824 (pause 0.18) 2132.8595 1820 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2132.8595 by six forty. 2133.5077 1821 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2133.5077 (pause 1.38) 2134.8832 1822 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2134.8832 It's- If you ride past it now I think it's like a dental- a dental office or something. 2138.0668 1823 DCB_int_01 2138.6077 Okay, well I'm not gonna go there. 2139.5730 1824 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2139.9460 Yeah, it's like a dental office. Um, but my first go go was to go see Backyard. I wasn't even old enough, but I still went. 2146.3237 1825 DCB_int_01 2146.5522 2147.0651 1826 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2147.2749 When I got old enough to hang with my sisters, one of my sisters took me. 2150.4818 1827 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2150.4818 (pause 0.97) 2151.4564 1828 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2151.4564 And I always listened to it. I've always heard go go, like it's a- 2154.0723 1829 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2154.0723 (pause 0.16) 2154.2297 1830 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2154.2297 Since I can remember, it's always 2156.3933 1831 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2156.3933 (pause 0.18) 2156.5751 1832 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2156.5751 been in 2157.5590 1833 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2157.5590 (pause 0.48) 2158.0346 1834 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2158.0346 my ear. 2158.6408 1835 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2158.6408 (pause 0.99) 2159.6340 1836 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2159.6340 My mom was just listening to it. Everybody around me listened to go go. 2162.3326 1837 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2162.3326 (pause 1.11) 2163.4377 1838 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2163.4377 I love go go. 2164.0253 1839 DCB_int_01 2164.7294 Where do you think it like- 2165.7412 1840 DCB_int_01 2165.7412 (pause 0.26) 2166.0058 1841 DCB_int_01 2166.0058 What (snap) 2166.5701 1842 DCB_int_01 2166.5701 (pause 0.17) 2166.7379 1843 DCB_int_01 2166.7379 makes it so 2168.2300 1844 DCB_int_01 2168.2300 (pause 0.62) 2168.8456 1845 DCB_int_01 2168.8456 addictive? Like, what makes it like- 2171.1181 1846 DCB_int_01 2171.1181 (pause 0.13) 2171.2477 1847 DCB_int_01 2171.2477 You know? Cause when you listen to it, it just kind of like, your body just starts to [move.] 2174.6404 1848 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2174.3233 [Move.] 2174.6031 1849 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2174.8689 I think [it's the] congos! 2175.7688 1850 DCB_int_01 2175.0787 [I-] 2175.3678 1851 DCB_int_01 2175.9180 [Is it the co-] 2176.4403 1852 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2175.9367 [] 2176.4263 1853 DCB_int_01 2177.1584 [It's the-] 2177.5127 1854 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2177.1677 [It's the] congos, tambourine (clapping) 2179.0317 1855 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2179.9316 2180.0622 1856 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2180.0622 (pause 0.48) 2180.5425 1857 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2180.5425 and I don't think it gets 2182.4776 1858 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2182.4776 (pause 0.49) 2182.9672 1859 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2182.9672 enough exposure. A lot of people from out of town, 2185.3534 1860 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2185.3534 (pause 0.67) 2186.0249 1861 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2186.0249 they hate it. 2186.5798 1862 DCB_int_01 2187.1300 Mm. 2187.3398 1863 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2187.4238 They hate it. [And I think] it's be- it's- it's an a- it's an acquired 2190.4127 1864 DCB_int_01 2187.8434 [I understand.] 2188.5522 1865 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2190.6353 ear 2190.9990 1866 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2190.9990 (pause 0.33) 2191.3254 1867 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2191.3254 [because they] don't- They didn't grow up on it. 2193.4051 1868 DCB_int_01 2191.3348 [Mm-hm.] 2191.7311 1869 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2193.6895 If I wasn't from here I probably wouldn't like it either. I don't know, 2195.9091 1870 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2195.9091 (pause 0.89) 2196.7985 1871 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2196.7985 but I used to go- 2197.7917 1872 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2197.7917 (pause 1.08) 2198.8689 1873 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2198.8689 What made me stop, 2200.0486 1874 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2200.0486 (pause 0.26) 2200.3050 1875 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2200.3050 besides the fact that I was getting older, 2201.8251 1876 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2201.8251 (pause 0.19) 2202.0117 1877 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2202.0117 and I felt like I was getting too- too old to listen to go go. 2204.5285 1878 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2204.5285 (pause 0.61) 2205.1347 1879 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2205.1347 Um, 2205.7315 1880 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2205.7315 (pause 1.87) 2207.6013 1881 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2207.6013 it 2208.0863 1882 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2208.0863 (pause 0.32) 2208.4022 1883 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2208.4022 instigated a lot of the hood beefs 2210.1321 1884 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2210.1321 (pause 0.30) 2210.4352 1885 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2210.4352 that was going on. 2211.0740 1886 DCB_int_01 2211.6476 Why? 2212.0020 1887 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2212.7154 Because a lot of the- 2213.8951 1888 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2213.8951 (pause 0.22) 2214.1131 1889 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2214.1131 the band members 2215.1762 1890 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2215.1762 (pause 1.43) 2216.6031 1891 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2216.6031 were 2217.0507 1892 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2217.0507 (pause 0.55) 2217.6009 1893 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2217.6009 with the gangs, 2218.3330 1894 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2218.3330 (pause 0.18) 2218.5149 1895 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2218.5149 like they be with the hoods, and 2220.3754 1896 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2220.3754 (pause 1.57) 2221.9503 1897 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2221.9503 it was- 2222.9528 1898 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2222.9528 (pause 0.23) 2223.1813 1899 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2223.1813 it was a lot of 2224.2631 1900 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2224.2631 (pause 0.23) 2224.4916 1901 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2224.4916 instigating. Like, the lyrics- They would do c- They would cover songs 2228.0529 1902 DCB_int_01 2228.5331 Mm-hm. 2228.9901 1903 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2229.0367 from [artists.] 2229.9413 1904 DCB_int_01 2229.6336 [Art-] Mm-hm. 2230.3097 1905 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2230.6361 But 2231.0744 1906 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2231.0744 (pause 0.84) 2231.9184 1907 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2231.9184 they'll throw something 2233.6145 1908 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2233.6145 (pause 0.46) 2234.0715 1909 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2234.0715 provoking in there. 2235.1020 1910 DCB_int_01 2235.3958 Mm. Mm-hm. 2236.1838 1911 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2236.6921 Like 2237.0651 1912 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2237.0651 (pause 1.97) 2239.0317 1913 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2239.0317 2239.2042 1914 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2239.2042 (pause 0.49) 2239.6985 1915 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2239.6985 okay I know for a fact- 2240.9202 1916 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2240.9202 (pause 1.71) 2242.6268 1917 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2242.6268 Where I'm from, my street- 2243.8578 1918 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2243.8578 (pause 0.60) 2244.4581 1919 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2244.4581 It's not my street, but it's my street. It where I- The street that I grew up on. 2247.1626 1920 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2247.1626 (pause 1.54) 2248.7014 1921 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2248.7014 One of the Backyard songs is, 2249.9977 1922 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2249.9977 (pause 0.28) 2250.2763 1923 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2250.2763 Don't ride through the KDY 2251.7731 1924 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2251.7731 (pause 1.01) 2252.7849 1925 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2252.7849 meaning 2253.2792 1926 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2253.2792 (pause 0.21) 2253.4844 1927 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2253.4844 if you're from where we don't like you from, like you're from a hood that we don't really 2258.4679 1928 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2258.4679 (pause 1.19) 2259.6569 1929 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2259.6569 use to much- 2260.8133 1930 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2260.8133 (pause 0.80) 2261.6107 1931 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2261.6107 mesh with? 2262.2215 1932 DCB_int_01 2262.4442 Mm. 2263.0690 1933 DCB_int_01 2263.0690 (pause 0.24) 2263.3068 1934 DCB_int_01 2263.3068 Don't come [over.] 2263.9969 1935 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2263.8430 [Don't] co- don't co- Don't ride through here 2265.6009 1936 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2266.1512 because something will happen to you. 2267.2842 1937 DCB_int_01 2269.9363 And they do a lot- Like they just kind of 2271.6149 1938 DCB_int_01 2271.6149 (pause 0.35) 2271.9693 1939 DCB_int_01 2271.9693 throw that stuff in. [Like, cause they] do a lot- I- They- 2274.1236 1940 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2272.7247 [Yeah.] 2273.1304 1941 DCB_int_01 2274.5794 They do a lot of covers, but they do some original stuff, 2276.8782 1942 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2276.9108 They do some [original stuff.] 2278.0020 1943 DCB_int_01 2277.4331 [and a lot of that] 2278.0719 1944 DCB_int_01 2278.3144 has like 2279.0698 1945 DCB_int_01 2279.0698 (pause 0.64) 2279.7086 1946 DCB_int_01 2279.7086 undertones about like, their neighborhoods and- 2281.9549 1947 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2282.0062 [Mm-hm.] 2282.4119 1948 DCB_int_01 2282.2161 [and I know] they do like a lot of shoutouts or what do they- They don't call them shoutouts. What do they call [them?] 2285.6246 1949 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2285.5314 [They] do. They put 'em on- 2286.4033 1950 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2286.5281 [Put you on.] 2286.9151 1951 DCB_int_01 2286.5374 [I know.] Put you on. [That's the o-] Mm-hm. 2288.5425 1952 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2287.5633 [Mm-hm.] 2288.0668 1953 DCB_int_01 2288.7943 Like when they, 2289.3585 1954 DCB_int_01 2289.3585 (pause 0.35) 2289.7082 1955 DCB_int_01 2289.7082 like, oh I see you whatever [whatever.] 2292.3847 1956 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2291.5687 [Mm-hm.] 2292.2588 1957 DCB_int_01 2292.7706 Throw it up, whatever. [Yup.] 2293.9783 1958 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2293.4933 [Yup.] 2293.9549 1959 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2294.2627 A hood sign, people getting it with shirts. It- it was- The go go was- 2298.9571 1960 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2298.9571 (pause 1.19) 2300.1461 1961 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2300.1461 It was like an adrenaline rush, 2301.6382 1962 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2301.6382 (pause 1.13) 2302.7713 1963 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2302.7713 and I say was because at the time, 2304.6225 1964 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2304.6225 (pause 0.95) 2305.5726 1965 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2305.5726 when I was younger- 2306.4585 1966 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2306.4585 (pause 0.42) 2306.8782 1967 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2306.8782 Cause go go, it kind of got a little 2308.5802 1968 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2308.5802 (pause 0.81) 2309.3915 1969 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2309.3915 sloppy. It wasn't as original and 2311.8663 1970 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2311.8663 (pause 0.25) 2312.1135 1971 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2312.1135 not as good as it used to be. 2313.8527 1972 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2313.8527 (pause 1.02) 2314.8693 1973 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2314.8693 And I think that came with the bounce beat. 2316.4826 1974 DCB_int_01 2316.9897 What's bounce beat? 2317.8057 1975 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2318.4072 It's 2318.7803 1976 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2318.7803 (pause 0.59) 2319.3678 1977 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2319.3678 extra loud, extra fast. 2320.8086 1978 DCB_int_01 2322.3742 Mm, 2322.8871 1979 DCB_int_01 2322.8871 (pause 0.25) 2323.1389 1980 DCB_int_01 2323.1389 so you lose some of the kind of- 2324.2860 1981 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2324.6171 It's- 2324.9108 1982 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2324.9108 (pause 0.16) 2325.0740 1983 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2325.0740 It's- 2325.5870 1984 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2325.5870 (pause 0.10) 2325.6849 1985 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2325.6849 What do you call it? I'm not a m- 2327.0231 1986 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2327.0231 (pause 0.45) 2327.4754 1987 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2327.4754 really a music person. 2328.5759 1988 DCB_int_01 2328.0117 /I don't know./ 2328.5992 1989 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2328.9104 It's on the keyboard. 2329.9456 1990 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2329.9456 (pause 0.69) 2330.6357 1991 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2330.6357 They make up the beats on the keyboard instead of actually playing them. 2333.0511 1992 DCB_int_01 2333.3402 Oh, so it's kind of like a 2334.9851 1993 DCB_int_01 2334.9851 (pause 0.76) 2335.7451 1994 DCB_int_01 2335.7451 fabrica- It ain't real, like it's just we- we made it 2338.7900 1995 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2338.8413 [Yeah.] 2339.3262 1996 DCB_int_01 2338.9858 [on this] little- And we [pushing a] preset [button.] 2341.3441 1997 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2339.9126 [And it's-] 2340.3789 1998 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2340.3789 (pause 0.65) 2341.0317 1999 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2341.0317 [Right.] 2341.3208 2000 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2341.5446 And it's fast and it- it's loud, 2344.1139 2001 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2344.1139 (pause 0.60) 2344.7107 2002 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2344.7107 but 2344.9765 2003 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2344.9765 (pause 1.36) 2346.3369 2004 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2346.3369 it was fun. The go gos used to be fun. 2347.9036 2005 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2347.9036 (pause 1.14) 2349.0461 2006 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2349.0461 [I got] so many fights at the go go. 2350.4449 2007 DCB_int_01 2349.0507 [/I'm-/] 2349.3958 2008 DCB_int_01 2351.5267 So do you feel like it like, provoked people to like- 2353.7917 2009 DCB_int_01 2353.7917 (pause 0.19) 2353.9783 2010 DCB_int_01 2353.9783 Besides [even the] lyrics and stuff, but just 2356.2817 2011 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2354.4818 [Fight.] 2354.8782 2012 DCB_int_01 2356.6967 the atmosphere, do you feel like that- 2358.5386 2013 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2358.7519 It was awful. Mm-hm. 2359.8897 2014 DCB_int_01 2360.4679 And that pushed people to like fight [and- Cause] I remember- I've been to a couple. They were, you know- It was chill. [It was] 2366.0529 2015 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2362.2817 [Yeah.] 2362.7294 2016 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2362.7294 (pause 3.04) 2365.7731 2017 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2365.7731 [It was] the older- older bands though? 2367.1953 2018 DCB_int_01 2367.9880 No, I went to um, 2370.2541 2019 DCB_int_01 2370.2541 (pause 0.39) 2370.6447 2020 DCB_int_01 2370.6447 I think one was What. 2371.6938 2021 DCB_int_01 2371.6938 (pause 0.50) 2372.1974 2022 DCB_int_01 2372.1974 What band. 2372.8829 2023 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2373.1160 Okay that's a older band. 2373.9367 2024 DCB_int_01 2374.0206 Oh, okay. And then, I did go- 2375.9650 2025 DCB_int_01 2375.9650 (pause 0.14) 2376.1003 2026 DCB_int_01 2376.1003 Did I see Backyard? 2377.1809 2027 DCB_int_01 2377.1809 (pause 0.49) 2377.6705 2028 DCB_int_01 2377.6705 I feel like I've [seen /them/.] 2379.0647 2029 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2378.3933 [See Backyard], What Band, Lissen Band, Familiar Faces, 2381.8065 2030 DCB_int_01 2381.0418 [Northeast] 2382.0676 2031 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2382.0303 Groovers, those are older [bands.] 2383.8177 2032 DCB_int_01 2383.4560 [Oh] then okay yes. I'm the older [crowd.] 2385.3398 2033 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2385.1393 [So] like TCB, 2386.6454 2034 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2386.7760 CCB, UCB, 2388.2122 2035 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2388.2122 (pause 0.34) 2388.5561 2036 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2388.5561 MLB, TLB, those [are younger-] 2390.7709 2037 DCB_int_01 2389.9829 [All the B's.] 2390.9948 2038 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2391.2419 Yeah. 2391.5170 2039 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2391.5170 (pause 0.14) 2391.6569 2040 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2391.6569 Those are the younger, 2394.0303 2041 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2394.0303 (pause 1.09) 2395.1203 2042 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2395.1203 more violent driven bands. 2397.0367 2043 DCB_int_01 2397.6895 Oh, no, I'm not- mm-mm. 2398.8244 2044 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2398.8413 Yeah. 2399.2236 2045 DCB_int_01 2399.4195 Mm-mm. 2399.8391 2046 DCB_int_01 2399.8391 (pause 0.51) 2400.3509 2047 DCB_int_01 2400.3509 Mkay. 2400.8731 2048 DCB_int_01 2400.8731 (pause 0.16) 2401.0317 2049 DCB_int_01 2401.0317 Wow. 2401.4793 2050 DCB_int_01 2401.4793 (pause 0.49) 2401.9689 2051 DCB_int_01 2401.9689 Um, do you feel like there are other things that are- Cause 2404.0719 2052 DCB_int_01 2404.0719 (pause 0.17) 2404.2398 2053 DCB_int_01 2404.2398 like you said, go go is very unique to DC, are there other things that are unique to DC that like 2408.1881 2054 DCB_int_01 2408.1881 (pause 0.13) 2408.3140 2055 DCB_int_01 2408.3140 you say. You know, if I went to 2410.3050 2056 DCB_int_01 2410.3050 (pause 0.32) 2410.6221 2057 DCB_int_01 2410.6221 even Maryland- Maybe not so much Maryland or Virginia but 2413.4001 2058 DCB_int_01 2413.4001 (pause 0.22) 2413.6239 2059 DCB_int_01 2413.6239 like North Carolina or California, I would not see this. 2416.6035 2060 DCB_int_01 2416.6035 (pause 0.36) 2416.9625 2061 DCB_int_01 2416.9625 What's some other things that are like unique to DC? 2419.0270 2062 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2419.1809 Mm, probably candy ladies. 2421.1253 2063 DCB_int_01 2422.1045 What? 2422.4263 2064 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2422.9345 Candy lady's this- 2423.8998 2065 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2423.8998 (pause 0.73) 2424.6307 2066 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2424.6307 sell the /half/ sausage and the 2426.4026 2067 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2426.4026 (pause 0.83) 2427.2279 2068 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2427.2279 uh, 2427.7455 2069 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2427.7455 (pause 0.46) 2428.2025 2070 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2428.2025 the pickled egg and the sunflower [seeds.] 2430.4640 2071 DCB_int_01 2429.5267 [You know we had- we had] a- Okay, that's what you call her. 2431.6425 2072 DCB_int_01 2431.7871 We had one of those, but- 2433.3631 2073 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2433.3585 The candy lady /will/ live next door to you. She sells cigarettes. [She sell] drugs. She'll sell beer. She sell- . 2439.0414 2074 DCB_int_01 2435.9406 [Mm-hm.] 2436.4208 2075 DCB_int_01 2440.2864 When I went to FBR one day, I was on some street, 2443.4374 2076 DCB_int_01 2443.4374 (pause 0.41) 2443.8430 2077 DCB_int_01 2443.8430 and the ice cream truck 2445.2232 2078 DCB_int_01 2445.2232 (pause 0.96) 2446.1791 2079 DCB_int_01 2446.1791 was selling- 2446.8086 2080 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2446.7713 Weave? 2447.2516 2081 DCB_int_01 2448.1049 I- I don't know what they [were selling.] I did not stop, but I saw people coming from the ice cream truck with 2452.3563 2082 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2449.1697 [Oh.] 2449.3562 2083 DCB_int_01 2452.9828 lots of things that were not ice cream. 2454.7436 2084 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2454.7087 See? 2455.0111 2085 DCB_int_01 2455.2536 Mm. 2455.5800 2086 DCB_int_01 2455.5800 (pause 0.57) 2456.1489 2087 DCB_int_01 2456.1489 Okay, yes. That may be a 2457.8788 2088 DCB_int_01 2457.8788 (pause 0.40) 2458.2740 2089 DCB_int_01 2458.2740 you know, it's a 2459.4257 2090 DCB_int_01 2459.4257 (pause 0.48) 2459.9060 2091 DCB_int_01 2459.9060 business. 2460.5588 2092 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2460.9738 Hm. 2461.2209 2093 DCB_int_01 2461.4401 Portable. 2461.9390 2094 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2462.4007 Yeah. 2462.7550 2095 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2462.7550 (pause 0.31) 2463.0628 2096 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2463.0628 I guess. 2463.5058 2097 DCB_int_01 2463.5104 Anything else? 2464.4150 2098 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2465.1693 2465.9760 2099 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2465.9760 (pause 0.12) 2466.0972 2100 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2466.0972 Hm. 2466.6241 2101 DCB_int_01 2466.7733 One /RD-NAME-3/ told me was mumbo sauce, like [that's a-] 2469.3845 2102 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2468.9462 [Oh yeah, mumbo] Sa- I don't like mumbo sauce. 2470.5549 2103 DCB_int_01 2471.1833 I've grown to like it. 2472.1019 2104 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2472.1065 You [do?] 2472.4422 2105 DCB_int_01 2472.2790 [It's] a little sweet though. I have to kind of 2473.7385 2106 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2473.8411 It- [it depends on where you] get it from. 2475.2540 2107 DCB_int_01 2474.1349 [temper it down.] 2474.8109 2108 DCB_int_01 2475.3985 [Mm.] 2475.9441 2109 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2475.5757 [And I think] that's why I couldn't get- 2476.7181 2110 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2476.8569 get with it because- 2477.8501 2111 DCB_int_01 2477.7408 It wasn't consistent? 2478.4422 2112 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2478.9925 Mm-mm. 2479.4215 2113 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2479.4215 (pause 0.32) 2479.7385 2114 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2479.7385 I think the best mumbo sauce I- I'm 2481.1887 2115 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2481.1887 (pause 0.83) 2482.0140 2116 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2482.0140 gonna tell you Uptown, but it was Uptown downtown. 2483.8780 2117 DCB_int_01 2484.9552 Like it was mumbo sauce geographic 2486.6664 2118 DCB_int_01 2486.6664 (pause 0.56) 2487.2260 2119 DCB_int_01 2487.2260 discrimination here? 2488.0000 2120 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2488.0513 Yeah, cause one- some of 'em are too sweet and some of 'em too spicy. 2490.9925 2121 DCB_int_01 2491.6220 Yes! That's the thing- you got to find the right mix, so /with the s-/ too sweet ones, I add hot sauce. 2496.3024 2122 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2496.2880 Yeah. 2496.6148 2123 DCB_int_01 2496.6894 Mm-hm. 2496.9971 2124 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2496.9039 See I love hot sauce, [but I] don't like- 2498.6198 2125 DCB_int_01 2497.7852 [Me too.] 2498.1349 2126 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2499.0488 I don't like nothing sweet on my chicken or my french fries. 2501.5376 2127 DCB_int_01 2502.6567 Okay so, no. Anything else? Obviously mumbo sauce [is not one of your] favorites. 2506.6622 2128 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2505.3752 [Hm.] 2506.0327 2129 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2506.0327 (pause 0.54) 2506.5771 2130 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2506.5771 What else? I'm trying to think. I can't think right now. 2508.6241 2131 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2509.5986 Mumbo sauce, um, (whispered) 2510.8576 2132 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2510.8576 (pause 0.54) 2511.3939 2133 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2511.3939 I don't know. (whispered) 2512.1492 2134 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2512.1492 (pause 2.40) 2514.5542 2135 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2514.5542 I'm'a come back to that. I'm still thinking. 2516.1489 2136 DCB_int_01 2516.2934 One other thing. The red lipstick. 2517.8835 2137 DCB_int_01 2517.8835 (pause 0.71) 2518.5957 2138 DCB_int_01 2518.5957 What's- 2519.1273 2139 DCB_int_01 2519.1273 (pause 0.68) 2519.8034 2140 DCB_int_01 2519.8034 That's a big deal. 2520.6008 2141 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2520.7034 Really? 2521.0811 2142 DCB_int_01 2521.8784 I mean 2522.4380 2143 DCB_int_01 2522.4380 (pause 0.64) 2523.0768 2144 DCB_int_01 2523.0768 like I don't see that as much 2524.9360 2145 DCB_int_01 2524.9360 (pause 0.80) 2525.7381 2146 DCB_int_01 2525.7381 like when I travel, 2526.6707 2147 DCB_int_01 2526.6707 (pause 0.28) 2526.9552 2148 DCB_int_01 2526.9552 but when I'm in DC- 2527.8365 2149 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2528.2841 You see it all the time? 2529.0255 2150 DCB_int_01 2530.0047 You don't? 2530.4337 2151 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2530.4279 I don't know- I- I don't- 2531.6122 2152 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2532.1392 The lipstick, 2533.1930 2153 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2533.1930 (pause 1.32) 2534.5126 2154 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2534.5126 it's gotten bad. 2535.6783 2155 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2535.6783 (pause 0.36) 2536.0420 2156 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2536.0420 Red in particular, I don't know, but 2538.5029 2157 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2538.5029 (pause 0.31) 2538.8153 2158 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2538.8153 the light colored lipstick, the [chalk], 2540.4206 2159 DCB_int_01 2540.0696 [The] white looking- 2541.6596 2160 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2541.9068 powdered donut color [lipstick. Uh-uh.] 2544.5728 2161 DCB_int_01 2543.2719 [] 2544.5681 2162 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2545.4308 It's awful. 2546.0836 2163 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2546.0836 (pause 1.13) 2547.2120 2164 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2547.2120 What else do we do here that I don't really see nobody else doing? 2549.7475 2165 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2549.7475 (pause 2.77) 2552.5126 2166 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2552.5126 /I don't know./ (I don't know intonation) 2553.0441 2167 DCB_int_01 2553.2353 What's the most ratchet thing you think you've seen? 2555.5843 2168 DCB_int_01 2555.5843 (pause 1.19) 2556.7733 2169 DCB_int_01 2556.7733 Cause I know you- 2557.4448 2170 DCB_int_01 2557.4448 (pause 0.34) 2557.7805 2171 DCB_int_01 2557.7805 you- I always have to go to you for my little source of ratchetness 2560.3812 2172 DCB_int_01 2560.3812 (pause 0.12) 2560.5025 2173 DCB_int_01 2560.5025 What's a- what's a pretty ratchet 2562.1392 2174 DCB_int_01 2562.1392 (pause 0.94) 2563.0764 2175 DCB_int_01 2563.0764 thing you've seen in DC that you were like, really people? Let's get it together. 2567.0667 2176 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2568.2697 Mm. 2568.8339 2177 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2568.8339 (pause 0.77) 2569.6033 2178 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2569.6033 That's so much, Minnie. 2570.5545 2179 DCB_int_01 2570.9649 Give me two or three. 2572.2504 2180 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2572.2845 Okay. 2572.7648 2181 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2572.7648 (pause 0.58) 2573.3418 2182 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2573.3418 Um, 2575.1557 2183 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2575.1557 (pause 1.89) 2577.0441 2184 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2577.0441 2577.2353 2185 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2577.2353 (pause 0.84) 2578.0793 2186 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2578.0793 I recently saw this girl that I know. 2580.9645 2187 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2580.9645 (pause 1.38) 2582.3400 2188 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2582.3400 She 2583.0162 2189 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2583.0162 (pause 0.30) 2583.3146 2190 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2583.3146 chased her daughter's dad in a car, 2586.0272 2191 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2586.0272 (pause 0.36) 2586.3863 2192 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2586.3863 and he was in a car. 2587.3002 2193 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2587.3002 (pause 1.09) 2588.3867 2194 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2588.3867 She got pulled over 2589.7203 2195 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2589.7203 (pause 1.26) 2590.9828 2196 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2590.9828 because the police caught her, 2592.0785 2197 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2592.0785 (pause 1.03) 2593.1090 2198 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2593.1090 and she got a five hundred dollar ticket, 2595.0954 2199 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2595.0954 (pause 1.36) 2596.4512 2200 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2596.4512 and her daughter was in the backseat, 2597.8687 2201 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2597.8687 (pause 0.52) 2598.3863 2202 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2598.3863 not in the carseat. And her daughter's not like- not even one. 2600.7084 2203 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2600.7084 (pause 0.83) 2601.5337 2204 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2601.5337 Um, 2602.1632 2205 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2602.1632 (pause 1.02) 2603.1879 2206 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2603.1879 so after she got the five hundred dollar ticket, 2605.3049 2207 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2605.3049 (pause 0.47) 2605.7758 2208 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2605.7758 she dropped her daughter off like with a crackhead 2608.3078 2209 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2608.3078 (pause 0.57) 2608.8802 2210 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2608.8802 to go 2609.2439 2211 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2609.2439 (pause 0.56) 2609.8081 2212 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2609.8081 chase the baby daddy. 2610.7826 2213 DCB_int_01 2613.3752 Mm. 2613.7762 2214 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2614.1073 Yeah. 2614.4244 2215 DCB_int_01 2615.2858 Mkay, I hoped they worked 2616.2837 2216 DCB_int_01 2616.2837 (pause 0.37) 2616.6567 2217 DCB_int_01 2616.6567 through some [things.] 2617.9763 2218 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2617.5940 [Mm-mm-mm.] 2618.6291 2219 DCB_int_01 2618.7084 Um, 2619.4731 2220 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2621.0714 The most ratchet (whispered). 2622.0319 2221 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2622.0319 (pause 0.58) 2622.6101 2222 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2622.6101 2622.7826 2223 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2622.7826 (pause 0.57) 2623.3562 2224 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2623.3562 I don't [know.] 2623.8271 2225 DCB_int_01 2623.6220 [That's] pretty ratchet. 2624.3121 2226 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2624.5126 [That is ratchet.] 2625.1794 2227 DCB_int_01 2624.5359 [But let's take it] on the flip side. What do you think has been one of the like 2627.1226 2228 DCB_int_01 2627.5050 coolest, 2628.2930 2229 DCB_int_01 2628.2930 (pause 0.37) 2628.6661 2230 DCB_int_01 2628.6661 most amazing things that you've seen in DC that makes it different from other places? You know what I mean? Because like, each city has it's own [personality.] 2635.3235 2231 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2634.6614 [] 2635.3608 2232 DCB_int_01 2635.7572 It's own pulse. It's own heartbeat. Like, what do you feel like has been something j- just amazing 2639.9806 2233 DCB_int_01 2639.9806 (pause 0.33) 2640.3117 2234 DCB_int_01 2640.3117 that you don't think you would have seen somewhere else? 2641.9111 2235 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2642.2048 2642.4333 2236 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2642.4333 (pause 1.50) 2643.9348 2237 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2643.9348 Probably 2644.7787 2238 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2644.7787 (pause 1.72) 2646.4982 2239 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2646.4982 all of 2647.8784 2240 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2647.8784 (pause 0.77) 2648.6478 2241 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2648.6478 the politicians that come in and out of DC. 2650.4372 2242 DCB_int_01 2651.4211 Really? 2651.7754 2243 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2651.8734 Mm-hm. 2652.2744 2244 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2652.2744 (pause 0.80) 2653.0764 2245 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2653.0764 And it's- it's so- it's so- It's funny and it's sad that 2656.4337 2246 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2656.4337 (pause 1.02) 2657.4490 2247 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2657.4490 people from 2658.4842 2248 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2658.4842 (pause 0.40) 2658.8806 2249 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2658.8806 DC, majority of the people from DC, 2661.1794 2250 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2661.1794 (pause 0.49) 2661.6736 2251 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2661.6736 2662.3498 2252 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2662.3498 (pause 0.81) 2663.1553 2253 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2663.1553 have 2663.4584 2254 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2663.4584 (pause 0.38) 2663.8407 2255 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2663.8407 never been downtown on the mall to see 2666.7457 2256 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2666.7457 (pause 0.83) 2667.5757 2257 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2667.5757 anything. 2668.0840 2258 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2668.0840 (pause 0.18) 2668.2647 2259 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2668.2647 They don't know, 2668.9408 2260 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2668.9408 (pause 0.27) 2669.2066 2261 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2669.2066 and p- 2669.7288 2262 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2669.7288 (pause 0.31) 2670.0412 2263 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2670.0412 and people who aren't from here, that's what they know. That's what they identify DC with. 2674.1492 2264 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2674.1492 (pause 0.63) 2674.7776 2265 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2674.7776 But DC is a whole backstory, and 2676.3770 2266 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2676.3770 (pause 0.56) 2676.9365 2267 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2676.9365 that's why I said that it was kind of sad that it's changing because 2680.3125 2268 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2680.3125 (pause 1.86) 2682.1765 2269 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2682.1765 nobody's gonna get to see the people 2684.1862 2270 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2684.1862 (pause 0.30) 2684.4846 2271 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2684.4846 of DC, only the people that moved here and 2687.5278 2272 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2687.5278 (pause 0.17) 2687.7023 2273 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2687.7023 settled here. 2688.3863 2274 DCB_int_01 2689.3422 Hm. 2689.7432 2275 DCB_int_01 2689.7432 (pause 1.36) 2691.1001 2276 DCB_int_01 2691.1001 Yup. 2691.4125 2277 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2691.4685 Kind of sucks. 2692.2285 2278 DCB_int_01 2692.5025 That's the one thing, I remember- 2693.8221 2279 DCB_int_01 2693.8221 (pause 0.29) 2694.1112 2280 DCB_int_01 2694.1112 It's so funny when you say the- the monuments and stuff cause I remember every time I would go home 2698.1166 2281 DCB_int_01 2698.1166 (pause 0.67) 2698.7823 2282 DCB_int_01 2698.7823 and come back like for school, 2700.0832 2283 DCB_int_01 2700.0832 (pause 0.47) 2700.5542 2284 DCB_int_01 2700.5542 I would always 2701.4914 2285 DCB_int_01 2701.4914 (pause 0.21) 2701.7012 2286 DCB_int_01 2701.7012 get a window seat 2702.7224 2287 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2703.2680 2703.7156 2288 DCB_int_01 2703.6223 so I could fly- When I flew into DC I could see the monu- I just thought it was beautiful [cause no] other place where you fly in and see that skyline. [Like nowhere.] 2711.5190 2289 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2707.4448 [Mm-hm.] 2708.1582 2290 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2708.1582 (pause 2.22) 2710.3812 2291 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2710.3812 [Yeah.] 2710.7263 2292 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2710.7263 (pause 0.24) 2710.9688 2293 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2710.9688 [No- /Nope/.] 2711.7008 2294 DCB_int_01 2712.0506 Um, I just thought it was the most beautiful th- Like every time, I don't care how many times I did it- I was always in awe. 2716.5689 2295 DCB_int_01 2716.5689 (pause 0.32) 2716.8895 2296 DCB_int_01 2716.8895 Like, [always.] I remember like I used to go jogging 2719.5847 2297 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2717.0853 [] 2717.8128 2298 DCB_int_01 2720.1582 at 2720.4706 2299 DCB_int_01 2720.4706 (pause 0.31) 2720.7784 2300 DCB_int_01 2720.7784 the Washington Monument. Because there's no other- Where else am I gonna go jogging with Lincoln and Washington? [You know what I mean?] 2726.0416 2301 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2725.0717 [Yeah, yeah.] It's- it's- 2726.6012 2302 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2727.6084 And I think that that's- that's why a lot of people are coming here. 2729.9666 2303 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2729.9666 (pause 0.75) 2730.7174 2304 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2730.7174 It's a beautiful city. 2731.7479 2305 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2731.7479 (pause 1.12) 2732.8716 2306 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2732.8716 It's a really beautiful city, and now 2734.7135 2307 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2734.7135 (pause 0.67) 2735.3791 2308 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2735.3791 it sucks that 2736.5728 2309 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2736.5728 (pause 1.69) 2738.2608 2310 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2738.2608 you're building it up now 2740.2005 2311 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2740.2005 (pause 1.63) 2741.8267 2312 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2741.8267 opposed to 2742.7360 2313 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2742.7360 (pause 1.48) 2744.2141 2314 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2744.2141 back then. 2744.7224 2315 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2744.7224 (pause 0.23) 2744.9555 2316 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2744.9555 DC used to be so rundown. 2746.1492 2317 DCB_int_01 2746.8755 Hm. 2747.1180 2318 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2747.2346 So rundown, 2748.2790 2319 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2748.2790 (pause 0.31) 2748.5868 2320 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2748.5868 like no one- nobody used to want to live here at all. 2750.7084 2321 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2750.7084 (pause 0.27) 2750.9789 2322 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2750.9789 Oh you from DC? 2751.9394 2323 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2751.9394 (pause 0.39) 2752.3311 2324 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2752.3311 You dirty. 2752.9360 2325 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2752.9360 (pause 0.64) 2753.5749 2326 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2753.5749 You ghetto. 2754.2138 2327 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2754.2138 (pause 0.24) 2754.4562 2328 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2754.4562 You from DC. 2755.0857 2329 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2755.0857 (pause 0.16) 2755.2443 2330 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2755.2443 That's wh- 2755.5567 2331 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2755.5567 (pause 0.15) 2755.7106 2332 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2755.7106 th- 2755.8691 2333 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2755.8691 (pause 0.33) 2756.2002 2334 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2756.2002 Growing up, that's all I heard. 2757.2446 2335 DCB_int_01 2759.7381 But now DC is [like] 2761.3468 2336 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2761.1836 [DC] is it. 2761.9390 2337 DCB_int_01 2762.0696 [Yeah.] 2762.4100 2338 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2762.2748 [Like] my- all my friends from like all over 2764.4430 2339 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2764.9501 the country- 2765.6216 2340 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2765.6216 (pause 0.49) 2766.1158 2341 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2766.1158 you live in DC, you're so lucky. You get to see everything. 2769.5524 2342 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2769.5524 (pause 0.42) 2769.9767 2343 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2769.9767 I don't, but okay. 2771.4807 2344 DCB_int_01 2771.3605 You're like, not really. 2773.3375 2345 DCB_se1_ag2_f_01 2773.3049 Not really. 2773.9484