Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.5179 And 1.1014 2 DCB_int_01 1.1014 (pause 0.47) 1.5716 3 DCB_int_01 1.5716 you're from DC? 2.3860 4 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2.6966 [Yes.] 3.3011 5 DCB_int_01 3.1542 [Born] and raised? 3.7635 6 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3.7503 Yes. 4.2750 7 DCB_int_01 4.4681 Alright, what neighborhood? 5.5627 8 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 6.5870 Southeast. 7.5525 9 DCB_int_01 7.5399 Southeast? Does it have a specific neighborhood? 9.6053 10 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 9.7858 No, um- 10.9434 11 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 10.9434 (pause 0.77) 11.7158 12 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 11.7158 They kind of refer to it as Hillcrest. It's not like a neighborhood. It's more for like, older 16.2401 13 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 16.2401 (pause 0.54) 16.7774 14 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 16.7774 retired 17.4155 15 DCB_int_01 17.9654 [Hillcrest? Where's] Hillcrest? 19.2793 16 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 18.2215 [people.] 18.6412 17 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 19.4598 It's off of Alabama Avenue 21.2775 18 DCB_int_01 21.7047 Mm. 22.1706 19 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 22.9682 And it's all houses. It's right before the borderline of Maryland. 26.3769 20 DCB_int_01 27.0223 I know where you're talking about now. 27.9081 21 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 27.9291 Mm-hm. 28.5210 22 DCB_int_01 29.4319 Have you lived anywhere else? 30.4898 23 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 31.0817 Now I do. I live in Northeast now. 32.9235 24 DCB_int_01 35.3121 And where'd you go to school? 36.4497 25 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 36.9157 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 37.4933 26 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 37.4933 (pause 0.16) 37.6577 27 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 37.6577 [/RD-SCHOOL-4/.] 38.3965 28 DCB_int_01 37.7290 [/RD-SCHOOL-3/] 38.9128 29 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 38.9170 Mm-hm (laughing). 39.2780 30 DCB_int_01 42.1274 And so currently, what's your occupation? 44.2137 31 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 44.5453 45.1161 32 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 45.1161 (pause 0.08) 45.2008 33 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 45.2008 A membership coordinator 46.8122 34 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 46.8122 (pause 3.03) 49.8462 35 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 49.8462 for /RD-WORK-4/. 51.0342 36 DCB_int_01 51.9997 The premier. Are you all premier or elite? 53.9716 37 DCB_int_01 53.9716 (pause 0.50) 54.4754 38 DCB_int_01 54.4754 [No, elite is-] 55.3528 39 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 54.4796 [Premier.] 55.1135 40 DCB_int_01 55.4619 Clubhou- [is FBR. So y'all] are [premier Richard England Club] 58.9396 41 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 55.8901 [Mm-hm. We're premier.] 57.1537 42 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 57.1537 (pause 0.10) 57.2502 43 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 57.2502 [] 63.7576 44 DCB_int_01 59.2180 [Whatever.] 59.9274 45 DCB_int_01 59.9274 (pause 0.26) 60.1835 46 DCB_int_01 60.1835 [Um, no y'all are pretty- Y'all good- Y'all be- Y'all pretty good over there- Y'all pretty good-] Y'all - Y'all making strides. This last year has really been- 66.6808 47 DCB_int_01 66.9159 Seriously, [like] 67.5917 48 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 67.2223 [I- It has-] 67.8898 49 DCB_int_01 67.6799 [I've] been here almost three years. This last year, I think y'all have- 70.6216 50 DCB_int_01 70.7811 Leaps and [bounds.] 71.9565 51 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 71.4947 [I know, that's] what everybody says. [/But I don't know/.] 73.7826 52 DCB_int_01 73.1907 [Like /RD-WORK-4/] is- y'all stepping up. 75.2686 53 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 75.3977 [] 77.1860 54 DCB_int_01 75.5152 [Stepping up and stepping out, okay.] 76.8082 55 DCB_int_01 77.1986 Um, where was your father born? 78.6636 56 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 80.3753 DC. 80.8214 57 DCB_int_01 80.9798 DC? 81.4920 58 DCB_int_01 81.4920 (pause 0.39) 81.8782 59 DCB_int_01 81.8782 /Where/ about your mom? 82.6464 60 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 82.9276 DC. 83.3978 61 DCB_int_01 84.5438 What does your father do? 85.2491 62 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 86.5116 I have no idea. 87.7248 63 DCB_int_01 87.7794 [Mkay.] 88.1236 64 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 88.0438 So, [uh], 88.7575 65 DCB_int_01 88.4888 [That's] fine. 89.1437 66 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 89.2570 But no, my father was killed a month before I was born. So I never met him, [never met that] side of the family. 94.0961 67 DCB_int_01 92.4883 [Oh.] 93.0928 68 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 94.2682 Nothing at all about him. 95.6661 69 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 95.6661 (pause 0.91) 96.5718 70 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 96.5718 /Not nothing/. 97.9026 71 DCB_int_01 97.9445 What about your 98.7043 72 DCB_int_01 98.7043 (pause 0.26) 98.9604 73 DCB_int_01 98.9604 mom? 99.2123 74 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 99.5313 My mom, um, she's a patient 101.6722 75 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 101.6722 (pause 0.19) 101.8643 76 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 101.8643 and registration clerk at /RD-WORK-2/. 103.7659 77 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 103.7659 (pause 1.21) 104.9791 78 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 104.9791 But I was raised 106.3350 79 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 106.3350 (pause 0.20) 106.5323 80 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 106.5323 by my grandparents. 108.0509 81 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 108.0509 (pause 0.56) 108.6135 82 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 108.6135 My mom in the household, 109.9568 83 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 109.9568 (pause 0.31) 110.2674 84 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 110.2674 but she was young when she had me. She had me at fourteen. So my grandparents raised me. 113.6960 85 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 113.6960 (pause 0.65) 114.3425 86 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 114.3425 So my grandfather would have been my father figure. 116.6178 87 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 116.6178 (pause 0.85) 117.4657 88 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 117.4657 I don't know if you want to use him. 118.6905 89 DCB_int_01 120.3192 Well, 120.5165 90 DCB_int_01 120.5165 (pause 0.61) 121.1252 91 DCB_int_01 121.1252 then let's talk about your grandparents. 122.3053 92 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 122.5525 Mkay. 122.8506 93 DCB_int_01 123.3795 So, 123.7825 94 DCB_int_01 123.7825 (pause 1.33) 125.1122 95 DCB_int_01 125.1122 that's all I'm gonna be writing. 126.0945 96 DCB_int_01 126.0945 (pause 0.25) 126.3464 97 DCB_int_01 126.3464 That's it. 126.6444 98 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 126.7074 [] 128.2774 99 DCB_int_01 127.4546 [Um,] 128.2270 100 DCB_int_01 128.6720 so tell me a little bit about 130.1528 101 DCB_int_01 130.1528 (pause 2.53) 132.6799 102 DCB_int_01 132.6799 your house, 133.4187 103 DCB_int_01 133.4187 (pause 0.10) 133.5153 104 DCB_int_01 133.5153 like your family, 134.4798 105 DCB_int_01 134.4798 (pause 0.23) 134.7065 106 DCB_int_01 134.7065 especially because you said your grandparents raised you, so tell me how was that dynamic. 138.0773 107 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 138.4719 Okay. 139.1478 108 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 139.1478 (pause 0.10) 139.2433 109 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 139.2433 So my mom had me at fourteen, 141.3171 110 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 141.3171 (pause 0.42) 141.7411 111 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 141.7411 and so for insurance purposes and legal purposes, my grandparents had to adopt me 146.4710 112 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 146.4710 (pause 0.45) 146.9202 113 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 146.9202 because if they didn't, I wouldn't have been able to get insurance and stuff like that. 149.5984 114 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 149.5984 (pause 0.44) 150.0424 115 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 150.0424 And so although my mom was in the household, it was more like we was raised a- 153.8582 116 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 153.8582 (pause 0.61) 154.4711 117 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 154.4711 as sisters 155.7840 118 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 155.7840 (pause 0.43) 156.2122 119 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 156.2122 opposed to mother and daughter. 157.5933 120 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 157.5933 (pause 0.36) 157.9501 121 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 157.9501 And then eventually once she got older to move out on her own, 160.3639 122 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 160.3639 (pause 0.37) 160.7375 123 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 160.7375 I just naturally stayed with 162.2477 124 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 162.2477 (pause 0.33) 162.5793 125 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 162.5793 my grandparents. 163.7380 126 DCB_int_01 164.3341 Mm, so when y- when did your mom leave? How old was your mom? 166.5086 127 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 167.2505 When my mom left, she was maybe in her early twenties, like twenty [two.] 172.5483 128 DCB_int_01 171.9186 [So you were like-] 172.5315 129 DCB_int_01 172.8915 elementary [school?] 173.9367 130 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 173.6261 [Mm-hm.] 174.5454 131 DCB_int_01 174.8812 [But you] had already really gotten close to your- 177.3306 132 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 174.9022 [Yeah.] 175.1877 133 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 175.1877 (pause 2.11) 177.2992 134 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 177.2992 [Grandparents.] 178.2090 135 DCB_int_01 177.7064 [Did you make] that decision? Or did your mom make that- Or did they make that decision? For you to stay? 181.5968 136 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 182.3021 I think it- it may have been both 184.2404 137 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 184.2404 (pause 0.30) 184.5427 138 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 184.5427 because I'm not gonna say that I was spoiled, but I was spoiled. 187.2125 139 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 187.2125 (pause 0.28) 187.4938 140 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 187.4938 So even when my mom tried to do 189.0711 141 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 189.0711 (pause 0.11) 189.1845 142 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 189.1845 that discipline thing, my grandparents kind of step in and was like, no. 192.3539 143 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 192.3539 (pause 0.41) 192.7611 144 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 192.7611 And she didn't like that, like, at the end of the day, she's still my child. 195.6272 145 DCB_int_01 196.2569 [Mm-hm.] 196.5549 146 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 196.2737 [And so when she] tried to discipline me, they kind of disciplined her. 198.3096 147 DCB_int_01 199.0978 Because their- [She was their child. You see how that-] 201.7131 148 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 199.8954 [] 202.0363 149 DCB_int_01 202.0993 [that's that children- Mm-hm.], 203.1697 150 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 202.3386 [Uh-huh.] 203.1278 151 DCB_int_01 203.2495 but it didn't quite work. 204.3074 152 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 204.3577 [Mm-hm.] 204.8657 153 DCB_int_01 204.6894 [Mm-hm.] 205.0630 154 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 205.2970 So, 205.9183 155 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 205.9183 (pause 0.31) 206.2331 156 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 206.2331 and then after- because she was still young, I think it may have been like a type of 209.1884 157 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 209.1884 (pause 0.55) 209.7426 158 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 209.7426 envy. 210.2967 159 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 210.2967 (pause 0.93) 211.2234 160 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 211.2234 Type of 211.7103 161 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 211.7103 (pause 0.35) 212.0630 162 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 212.0630 [thing.] 212.5121 163 DCB_int_01 212.0630 [What do you mean?] 212.5121 164 DCB_int_01 213.8093 She was envious of [you?] 215.3163 165 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 215.1274 [I] believe so cause we had like uh, a rocky patch in our relationship. 218.8919 166 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 219.2739 And it wasn't until I really got older, probably like high school, 222.5808 167 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 222.5808 (pause 0.57) 223.1475 168 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 223.1475 college that we got like, real close. 225.2338 169 DCB_int_01 225.4185 Mm. 225.6872 170 DCB_int_01 225.6872 (pause 0.57) 226.2571 171 DCB_int_01 226.2571 So tell me about- Okay. So tell me about your neighborhood, your house, like what you remember. Like, I mean like, 231.1224 172 DCB_int_01 231.1224 (pause 0.21) 231.3323 173 DCB_int_01 231.3323 physically. Your block, 232.6116 174 DCB_int_01 232.6116 (pause 0.30) 232.9138 175 DCB_int_01 232.9138 and like, 233.2497 176 DCB_int_01 233.2497 (pause 0.21) 233.4596 177 DCB_int_01 233.4596 did you play with other kids in the neighborhood? 235.5417 178 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 236.2302 Okay, so 237.2670 179 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 237.2670 (pause 0.63) 237.8999 180 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 237.8999 again, my grandparents- 239.6000 181 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 239.6000 (pause 0.58) 240.1751 182 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 240.1751 I don't want to say they kept me sheltered in, but I didn't live in a neighborhood. So, 243.9228 183 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 243.9228 (pause 0.47) 244.3888 184 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 244.3888 I lived in a five bedroom, four bathroom house. I'm talking about you go outside, you could hear 248.8459 185 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 248.8459 (pause 0.16) 249.0054 186 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 249.0054 a pin drop, 249.6728 187 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 249.6728 (pause 0.19) 249.8618 188 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 249.8618 the birds chirping. All older people, really no kids on my block. 253.1445 189 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 253.1445 (pause 0.49) 253.6388 190 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 253.6388 And as I got older and wanted to play with kids, and I went to school, 257.3203 191 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 257.3203 (pause 0.38) 257.6981 192 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 257.6981 I'm like, well dad, 258.7308 193 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 258.7308 (pause 0.39) 259.1202 194 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 259.1202 talking to my grandfather- 260.0395 195 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 260.0395 (pause 0.31) 260.3544 196 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 260.3544 I want to hang out where the ice cream trucks come, and 262.8605 197 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 262.8605 (pause 0.29) 263.1501 198 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 263.1501 everybody's outside playing. And I want to hang in the neighborhood. 265.9701 199 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 265.9701 (pause 0.59) 266.5620 200 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 266.5620 And he was just over protective. But then my best friend, 268.7827 201 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 268.7827 (pause 0.43) 269.2150 202 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 269.2150 who I met 269.8489 203 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 269.8489 (pause 0.29) 270.1375 204 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 270.1375 lived in a neighborhood Woodland, 272.0770 205 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 272.0770 (pause 0.18) 272.2533 206 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 272.2533 and I used to have to beg 273.3027 207 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 273.3027 (pause 0.20) 273.5042 208 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 273.5042 to go over there. But he made sure he dropped me off 275.1918 209 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 275.1918 (pause 0.23) 275.4258 210 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 275.4258 and picked me up. 276.1269 211 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 276.1269 (pause 0.60) 276.7230 212 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 276.7230 So I didn't live in a neighborhood essentially, 278.6204 213 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 278.6204 (pause 0.34) 278.9604 214 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 278.9604 but as I got older, 280.0477 215 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 280.0477 (pause 0.19) 280.2355 216 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 280.2355 I started to hang 281.3847 217 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 281.3847 (pause 0.50) 281.8895 218 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 281.8895 with my best friend in her neighborhood. 283.3420 219 DCB_int_01 283.5225 So your neighborhood was really quiet. 285.2352 220 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 285.2562 Very quiet. 286.0916 221 DCB_int_01 286.2711 Was it r- Do you feel r- Did you feel really safe? 288.3448 222 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 288.3448 Very safe. 289.3019 223 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 289.5580 Uh! 289.7385 224 DCB_int_01 289.6797 Now Woodland has a reputation. 291.3243 225 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 291.4586 Yes. 292.0421 226 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 292.0421 (pause 0.24) 292.2856 227 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 292.2856 [] 293.4442 228 DCB_int_01 292.3024 [So how was it] going from 294.4937 229 DCB_int_01 294.6532 prim and proper neighborhood, [white picket fence almost] 298.1240 230 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 296.3029 [] 298.0566 231 DCB_int_01 298.6191 to 299.2026 232 DCB_int_01 299.2026 (pause 0.20) 299.3999 233 DCB_int_01 299.3999 um, we in the hood. 301.0245 234 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 301.3142 [] 301.9270 235 DCB_int_01 301.5660 [Like]- 301.9270 236 DCB_int_01 302.3626 did- wasn't- 302.9125 237 DCB_int_01 302.9125 (pause 0.38) 303.2945 238 DCB_int_01 303.2945 Am I right? Was Woodland t- the [hood?] 305.3389 239 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 304.5917 [Mm, yes.] 305.3683 240 DCB_int_01 305.4690 Right, so how as that transition? 307.2825 241 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 307.4452 So it was interesting. Um, I'm not gonna say I was scared, almost- because I knew my best friend kind of knew everybody in the neighborhood. And I had went to school 315.1892 242 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 315.1892 (pause 0.50) 315.6888 243 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 315.6888 with a few of them, so I had knew a lot of people, but it was very different. 318.4080 244 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 318.4080 (pause 0.55) 318.9621 245 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 318.9621 But it also made me appreciate 320.5657 246 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 320.5657 (pause 0.57) 321.1324 247 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 321.1324 how I was brought up and where I came from and where I lived. 323.6081 248 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 323.6081 (pause 0.47) 324.0740 249 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 324.0740 But it was fun going over there and being- like the ice cream truck- I could go to the ice cream truck and get whatever I wanted to or 328.5994 250 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 328.5994 (pause 0.56) 329.1577 251 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 329.1577 the go go bands would come around their neighborhood and play. And that was fun for me. 333.1488 252 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 333.1488 (pause 0.79) 333.9338 253 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 333.9338 But my grandfather didn't see the fun in it, and so it wasn't like I could go over there all the time. It was one of those things where it's, you can go, but it won't be 340.2002 254 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 340.2002 (pause 0.49) 340.6903 255 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 340.6903 all the time. 341.3998 256 DCB_int_01 342.1134 Um, so when you went to- What elementary school did you go to? 342.5526 257 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 346.2053 So I went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. 348.9297 258 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 348.9297 (pause 0.18) 349.1102 259 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 349.1102 Everything was on Capitol Hill. 350.3696 260 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 350.3696 (pause 0.61) 350.9814 261 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 350.9814 So I did /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 352.5011 262 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 352.5011 (pause 0.22) 352.7194 263 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 352.7194 I did /RD-SCHOOL-2/. I did /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 354.8225 264 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 354.8225 (pause 0.50) 355.3220 265 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 355.3220 But then, 355.9139 266 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 355.9139 (pause 0.35) 356.2613 267 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 356.2613 I got put out of /RD-SCHOOL-3/ and that's when I had to go to my neighborhood school 360.5012 268 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 360.5012 (pause 0.63) 361.1267 269 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 361.1267 which was /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and that's how I met my best friend. 363.4932 270 DCB_int_01 364.0557 So how did you- Okay, wait a minute. So how did you get put out of [the school?] 366.7539 271 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 366.2712 [] 377.1049 272 DCB_int_01 366.9848 [See], 367.3248 273 DCB_int_01 367.3248 (pause 0.40) 367.7236 274 DCB_int_01 367.7236 [now I'm getting the real-] 368.7185 275 DCB_int_01 368.7185 (pause 0.60) 369.3146 276 DCB_int_01 369.3146 [Mm-hm.] 369.6882 277 DCB_int_01 369.6882 (pause 0.34) 370.0283 278 DCB_int_01 370.0283 [Cause before] 370.8846 279 DCB_int_01 370.8846 (pause 0.25) 371.1323 280 DCB_int_01 371.1323 [you were like, yes, you know, I grew up this] 373.2806 281 DCB_int_01 373.2806 (pause 0.46) 373.7424 282 DCB_int_01 373.7424 [prim and proper neighborhood. Lakeda I know you get down.] 376.5297 283 DCB_int_01 376.5297 (pause 0.24) 376.7690 284 DCB_int_01 376.7690 [Mm-hm.] You're like, no, no. I /couldn't/. [It- It was a] treat to go to Woodland Terrace. 381.1170 285 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 378.2834 [So]- 379.2993 286 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 381.8726 So, 382.7206 287 DCB_int_01 382.8465 Mm-hm. 383.4384 288 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 384.5036 um, one of the teachers- 386.4179 289 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 386.4179 (pause 0.78) 387.1945 290 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 387.1945 She was a little 388.1978 291 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 388.1978 (pause 0.75) 388.9523 292 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 388.9523 off the chain, and [so] we had got into it at one point. And she told me like, 393.8429 293 DCB_int_01 390.4258 [Hm.] 390.6693 294 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 394.3162 I couldn't get on the computer or something, and I was just like, well I don't care. I got five computers at home. I'm not pressed to get on your computer. And it ended up /to/ 401.0737 295 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 401.0737 (pause 0.45) 401.5229 296 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 401.5229 a back and forth thing. 402.7991 297 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 402.7991 (pause 0.37) 403.1643 298 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 403.1643 And I got suspended 404.3103 299 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 404.3103 (pause 0.62) 404.9347 300 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 404.9347 from school. 405.4889 301 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 405.4889 (pause 0.21) 405.7029 302 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 405.7029 Well they actually put me out 406.7104 303 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 406.7104 (pause 0.61) 407.3191 304 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 407.3191 /RD-SCHOOL-2/, so 408.3980 305 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 408.3980 (pause 0.39) 408.7926 306 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 408.7926 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 409.6573 307 DCB_int_01 409.9124 So how- Wait. 410.4035 308 DCB_int_01 410.4035 (pause 0.28) 410.6806 309 DCB_int_01 410.6806 Where'd you- How did you end up w- Mc- at /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 412.4059 310 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 413.3840 I l- 413.7031 311 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 413.7031 (pause 0.15) 413.8500 312 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 413.8500 When I left /RD-SCHOOL-2/ because I was so academically 416.8252 313 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 416.8252 (pause 0.34) 417.1695 314 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 417.1695 excel in /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 418.2987 315 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 418.2987 (pause 0.50) 418.7982 316 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 418.7982 um, /RD-SCHOOL-3/ had reopened, 420.5152 317 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 420.5152 (pause 0.39) 420.9003 318 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 420.9003 [and so I had] to apply and all that stuff. 422.5039 319 DCB_int_01 420.9171 [/Oh/.] 421.2404 320 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 422.8524 Even though I was in /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I wasn't a product of that school. So I was always the one doing all my homework, getting good grades as opposed to everybody else around me like, 429.1943 321 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 429.1943 (pause 0.44) 429.6309 322 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 429.6309 not doing [anything.] 430.6174 323 DCB_int_01 430.0843 [I don't know about] /RD-SCHOOL-1/- Tell me- I don't know about /RD-SCHOOL-2/ [I've not-] 433.0553 324 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 432.3543 [So /RD-SCHOOL-2/] is in Southeast, 434.5875 325 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 434.9779 and 435.4252 326 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 435.4252 (pause 0.10) 435.5300 327 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 435.5300 there's the Woodland kids. There's 437.2616 328 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 437.2616 (pause 0.62) 437.8776 329 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 437.8776 /Juna Vista Terrace/ kids. It's the 440.0815 330 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 440.0815 (pause 0.19) 440.2704 331 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 440.2704 Thirtieth Street kids. It's just that 442.4158 332 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 442.4158 (pause 0.43) 442.8469 333 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 442.8469 Naylor Gardens, that whole 444.2070 334 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 444.2070 (pause 0.34) 444.5470 335 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 444.5470 area. 445.0592 336 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 445.0592 (pause 0.68) 445.7392 337 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 445.7392 So it's like a neighborhood school. It's not like a school, like, oh I'm sending my child there. No. 449.2518 338 DCB_int_01 449.8731 Was it [like, they just-] 451.1870 339 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 450.2425 [It's a school that you don't] want to go to. I'm talking my grandfather and grandmother was in tears. 454.0573 340 DCB_int_01 456.7859 Like 457.2603 341 DCB_int_01 457.2603 (pause 1.39) 458.6530 342 DCB_int_01 458.6530 Kids were bad- Like, I don't- [What do you mean?] Like it was [unsafe?] 461.3018 343 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 459.8536 [Yeah.] 460.1684 344 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 460.1684 (pause 0.60) 460.7729 345 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 460.7729 [Bad.] Yeah. It was bad. Mm-hm. 462.6493 346 DCB_int_01 462.7249 Like gangs and [stuff?] 463.7492 347 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 463.3756 [Gangs, mm-hm.] 464.5541 348 DCB_int_01 464.2981 So tell me about like- [and do you remember like, the gang activity?] 467.5094 349 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 465.2300 [] 467.4507 350 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 467.8411 Um- 468.5169 351 DCB_int_01 468.4917 I mean, 468.8486 352 DCB_int_01 469.0039 not that you necessarily [involved, but like, seeing it.] 471.2781 353 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 469.8634 [Not necessarily gang activities], but neighborhood beefs. 472.9363 354 DCB_int_01 472.9866 Like what? 473.4316 355 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 474.0183 [Oh.] 474.8201 356 DCB_int_01 474.0319 [Like give me an example.] 475.0982 357 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 475.5757 Like, 476.6839 358 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 476.6839 (pause 0.46) 477.1415 359 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 477.1415 if Woodland was beefing with another 479.2992 360 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 479.2992 (pause 0.39) 479.6938 361 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 479.6938 area, 480.3445 362 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 480.3445 (pause 0.60) 480.9437 363 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 480.9437 they would fight like after school and stuff like that. 483.6597 364 DCB_int_01 484.1047 But there was just- It was like fist fight. There were no guns [and stuff.] 486.7232 365 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 486.1564 [No, no guns] and stuff. No. 487.7936 366 DCB_int_01 488.4611 Wow. 488.7381 367 DCB_int_01 488.7381 (pause 0.25) 488.9900 368 DCB_int_01 488.9900 Was it girls, boys, was it [mix?] 490.8833 369 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 490.2704 [Girls] and boys. 491.8351 370 DCB_int_01 491.8813 Were they different groups? 492.9812 371 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 493.1659 Different groups, mm-hm. 494.3748 372 DCB_int_01 494.4882 So- but I'm saying like- Okay. 496.2503 373 DCB_int_01 496.2503 (pause 0.23) 496.4769 374 DCB_int_01 496.4769 So- 496.9177 375 DCB_int_01 496.9177 (pause 0.58) 497.4970 376 DCB_int_01 497.4970 Do you see what I'm saying? Okay, so I'll give you an example. One girl was telling me about [the gangs]- 501.9406 377 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 500.9939 [No if they- If it was a] neighborhood, it would be like- If the girls and boys from your neighborhood? They 504.6408 378 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 504.7919 together. Like they walking together. Like, 506.8237 379 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 506.8237 (pause 0.53) 507.3558 380 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 507.3558 [Girls, boys, it's the whole neighborhood, not- not by sex.] 510.5378 381 DCB_int_01 507.3893 [It's the whole neighborhood was beefing, not- not- the girls of the neighborhood] 510.5587 382 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 510.8988 But no, but when I was 511.9692 383 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 511.9692 (pause 0.59) 512.5590 384 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 512.5590 growing up the girl gangs were more popular, 515.0723 385 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 515.0723 (pause 0.49) 515.5619 386 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 515.5619 so then we stopped talking about neighborhoods, and it become 517.7998 387 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 517.7998 (pause 0.10) 517.9045 388 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 517.9045 girl gangs like Most Wanted, Shut 'Em Down, 520.7926 389 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 520.7926 (pause 0.78) 521.5759 390 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 521.5759 that type of [stuff.] 522.4586 391 DCB_int_01 521.9583 [Which] is very different from the ones I heard- And so those are very specific to the neighborhood and the school? 526.2237 392 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 526.5734 No. That was just 527.8510 393 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 527.8510 (pause 0.16) 528.0096 394 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 528.0096 all over, like you could be from different places. 530.6010 395 DCB_int_01 530.7082 Because that's very di- Like, 531.8507 396 DCB_int_01 531.8507 (pause 0.39) 532.2377 397 DCB_int_01 532.2377 I wonder- I'm'a look back at the list that she gave me- I can't even remember who I was talking to, but she listed some. But they were very [different.] 538.3822 398 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 537.9299 [Different.] 538.4149 399 DCB_int_01 538.6107 [Like the /Y's/-] 540.0970 400 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 538.6200 [Yep, and it's probably ages.] 540.2893 401 DCB_int_01 540.4747 Y two- 541.4819 402 DCB_int_01 541.4819 (pause 0.34) 541.8223 403 DCB_int_01 541.8223 Y two G gang or some- It was like [a lot of different names] and- 545.2309 404 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 543.7061 [Mm-hm.] 544.9324 405 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 545.3614 But like most- When I was coming up, it was like Most Wanted, Shut 'Em Down. 548.5031 406 DCB_int_01 549.0813 Those are the ones you [remember?] 550.3263 407 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 549.7387 [Those type of] things. 550.6973 408 DCB_int_01 550.7786 [Were] you ever like, wanting to be in the gang? Or wanted to- You know, I'm gonna [be in a gang?] 554.6150 409 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 554.1067 [] 555.2118 410 DCB_int_01 555.2678 No that's a- that's a legit question. [It's a-] 557.2731 411 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 556.7739 [Not necessarily] 557.9629 412 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 558.2194 in the gang, 559.1928 413 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 559.1928 (pause 0.37) 559.5658 414 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 559.5658 but um, 561.1186 415 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 561.1186 (pause 0.71) 561.8273 416 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 561.8273 I knew 562.5874 417 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 562.5874 (pause 0.49) 563.0817 418 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 563.0817 everything that was going on cause I had friends in all the different types of gangs. 563.7643 419 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 563.7643 (pause 3.51) 567.2771 420 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 567.2771 (pause 0.35) 567.6315 421 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 567.6315 I necessarily wasn't in it, but 569.3847 422 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 569.3847 (pause 0.89) 570.2742 423 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 570.2742 my grandfather and the principal at my school thought that I was in a gang. It was a hard time for my grandpa. They're like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't have sent you here, because I became 577.5565 424 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 577.5565 (pause 0.50) 578.0554 425 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 578.0554 into all the stuff that they was doing, not necessarily like the fighting and stuff but the fashion and stuff behind it. 582.5318 426 DCB_int_01 582.7592 So like [give me an example.] 584.2699 427 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 583.0902 [So they thought it was gang] affiliated, but it really wasn't. So this was a time when 586.6853 428 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 587.0350 the girls was wearing rubber bands around their 589.6171 429 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 589.6171 (pause 0.41) 590.0275 430 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 590.0275 um, jeans. 591.5056 431 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 591.5056 (pause 0.63) 592.1398 432 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 592.1398 And like, bandanas and stuff like that. 594.5365 433 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 594.5365 (pause 0.54) 595.0762 434 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 595.0762 And so the principal- Of course, cause it was 597.3984 435 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 597.3984 (pause 0.35) 597.7434 436 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 597.7434 me, and I guess she felt like I was different 600.2556 437 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 600.2556 (pause 0.48) 600.7312 438 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 600.7312 from that. I mean once that happened for me, she made it a point to contact my grandfather. Like, /RD-NAME-3/ starting to go down the wrong path, and 608.2280 439 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 608.2280 (pause 0.53) 608.7549 440 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 608.7549 /you might wanna ch-/. But I really wasn't in a gang, it was just- it was cute. 611.7566 441 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 611.7566 (pause 0.59) 612.3477 442 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 612.3477 Fashionable at the time, but I wasn't in no 614.8806 443 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 614.8806 (pause 0.22) 615.1000 444 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 615.1000 gang. No. 616.6853 445 DCB_int_01 616.6667 So did you- Okay. So then, how long were you there? For a year? Two [years?] 620.1254 446 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 619.9202 [I was] there seventh and eighth grade. 621.3377 447 DCB_int_01 621.5522 Okay, so you were there for two years. [And then you] went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 624.4432 448 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 622.7273 [Mm-hm.] 623.3008 449 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 624.4747 Yes. 624.8897 450 DCB_int_01 624.8850 Okay. How was that experience? 626.7922 451 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 626.8435 Completely different 627.8460 452 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 627.8460 (pause 0.44) 628.2843 453 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 628.2843 because being at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I was one who wanted to 631.9515 454 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 631.9515 (pause 0.14) 632.0961 455 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 632.0961 do work, as opposed to everybody else not wanting to. 634.5361 456 DCB_int_01 634.6993 Mm-hm. 634.9837 457 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 635.0350 But then when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, this coming from everybody that 637.3560 458 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 637.3560 (pause 0.21) 637.5612 459 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 637.5612 wanted good for theirself, wanted different, wanted better. 639.8180 460 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 639.8180 (pause 0.23) 640.0465 461 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 640.0465 So it was- w- 640.5454 462 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 640.5454 (pause 0.27) 640.8112 463 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 640.8112 It was a academic 641.6645 464 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 641.6645 (pause 0.20) 641.8650 465 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 641.8650 competition, so it's- a competition so to speak. 644.1534 466 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 644.1534 (pause 0.48) 644.6383 467 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 644.6383 So I'm with everybody that wants to do work, that wants to do well as opposed to me doing work and walking around like, play fighting and 650.4844 468 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 650.4844 (pause 0.36) 650.8481 469 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 650.8481 throwing paper and just /threatening the teacher/ as opposed to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, they wasn't having that. You had to go through an interview. You had to go through a essay. 656.1673 470 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 656.1673 (pause 0.48) 656.6476 471 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 656.6476 You had to go through a lot of [stuff.] 657.8553 472 DCB_int_01 657.7014 [Now] was /RD-SCHOOL-2/- That's like- 659.2915 473 DCB_int_01 659.8464 STEM 660.4199 474 DCB_int_01 660.4199 (pause 0.47) 660.8850 475 DCB_int_01 660.8850 at that point, or math science was the main focus, right? [Or was it-] 664.4755 476 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 663.8926 [No], so 665.1003 477 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 665.2775 the STEM part of /RD-SCHOOL-3/ just came about 667.3047 478 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 667.3047 (pause 0.17) 667.4726 479 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 667.4726 [um, after] I graduated. When I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, you got to pick between three concentrations. You was either in Broadcast, 673.5891 480 DCB_int_01 667.5145 [Okay.] 667.9109 481 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 674.2000 IT, 675.2849 482 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 675.2849 (pause 2.32) 677.6039 483 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 677.6039 and it was another one. 678.9317 484 DCB_int_01 679.1182 So what did you do? 679.7150 485 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 679.8922 I did Broadcast. 681.3377 486 DCB_int_01 681.4776 So what did you want to do? Like, at that point? 683.5666 487 DCB_int_01 683.5666 (pause 0.69) 684.2602 488 DCB_int_01 684.2602 What- 684.5167 489 DCB_int_01 684.5167 (pause 0.27) 684.7825 490 DCB_int_01 684.7825 Did- Is that just because you chose that one or is there something [like, you specifically-] 688.0931 491 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 686.8761 [Because Broadcast was more] fun. I think that because I was very detail oriented, I liked um, writing, so i- it became part of like script writing, filming, behind the camera, 696.2241 492 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 696.6566 all that type of stuff. 697.6218 493 DCB_int_01 698.4331 What color are you? 699.1512 494 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 700.3962 Green. 700.8532 495 DCB_int_01 701.3521 You're gree- What's your second color? 702.4665 496 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 702.5680 Yellow. 703.0856 497 DCB_int_01 704.0788 What's your third color? 704.8994 498 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 705.6362 Blue. 706.1351 499 DCB_int_01 707.1376 Fa- I would think 708.1541 500 DCB_int_01 708.1541 (pause 0.34) 708.4980 501 DCB_int_01 708.4980 because [you are- You-] You are very [detail- So I would think blue would be higher.] 712.5734 502 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 708.8244 [] 709.4213 503 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 709.4213 (pause 1.08) 710.4984 504 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 710.4984 [ /Think/ blue- Mm-hm.] Mm-mm. Green, yellow and blue.] 714.1821 505 DCB_int_01 715.7990 Mm. But yellow I can se- I mean green and yellow I can see that too cause you're all about- Like, all the girls love to sit at your desk [and help you and] 722.5450 506 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 721.2301 [Mm-hm.] 722.3352 507 DCB_int_01 722.9600 talk to Ms. Lakeda all [day.] 725.2169 508 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 724.1491 [] 725.4827 509 DCB_int_01 725.5806 But your comment is on- Your comment [is right, so I can't be mad.] 728.3912 510 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 727.0249 [] 729.0113 511 DCB_int_01 729.0113 Um, [what was] your favorite subject in school? 731.1982 512 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 729.6595 [] 730.0512 513 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 731.6226 English. 732.3686 514 DCB_int_01 732.3873 Why? 732.6111 515 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 733.2721 I like to write. I like to read, 735.1839 516 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 735.1839 (pause 0.59) 735.7760 517 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 735.7760 and so it was English. 736.8439 518 DCB_int_01 737.0583 What's your favorite book? 737.9490 519 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 739.3467 See, I can't say a favorite book cause I'm more of the 742.6200 520 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 742.6200 (pause 0.43) 743.0490 521 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 743.0490 black book type person. [/Know/ like] the 745.6917 522 DCB_int_01 744.9923 [Okay.] 745.4166 523 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 746.1860 the hood books. 747.4077 524 DCB_int_01 747.8693 I'm not- [Give me an example. I'm not mad at the hood books.] 750.5411 525 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 748.3869 [] Like um, 751.8456 526 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 752.2513 so- 752.6196 527 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 752.6196 (pause 0.19) 752.8062 528 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 752.8062 Coldest Winter Ever is a hood bo- but that was the type of books I read, so- so- so- it was like, Thug Life maybe. Um, 758.2513 529 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 758.2513 (pause 1.53) 759.7807 530 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 759.7807 it was just a few of those books that I liked, so like Zane [books.] 763.0622 531 DCB_int_01 762.8058 [Mm-hm.] What's your favorite Zane book? 764.4891 532 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 765.5476 It had to be Addicted. 766.6480 533 DCB_int_01 767.0444 Why? 767.3754 534 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 768.1250 Cause it was just [nice.] 769.6218 535 DCB_int_01 769.2394 [What happened?] 769.8083 536 DCB_int_01 770.3539 I haven't read it, but 771.5103 537 DCB_int_01 771.5103 (pause 0.31) 771.8180 538 DCB_int_01 771.8180 I've- 772.1771 539 DCB_int_01 772.1771 (pause 0.33) 772.5081 540 DCB_int_01 772.5081 I've heard a lot about- about 774.3919 541 DCB_int_01 774.3919 (pause 0.30) 774.6939 542 DCB_int_01 774.6939 Zane. I'm actually s- just started Coldest Winter Ever. 777.0673 543 DCB_int_01 777.0673 (pause 0.53) 777.5989 544 DCB_int_01 777.5989 I've never [read it.] 778.1957 545 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 777.9299 [Coldest] Winter Ever, it's great. [But it's funny] because even though I liked those books it was nothing that I related to cause even though I was reading these books 783.8367 546 DCB_int_01 779.2309 [/It is good?/] 779.8091 547 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 784.2097 as I was younger, I wasn't really into the streets, 786.4805 548 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 786.4805 (pause 0.44) 786.9224 549 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 786.9224 wasn't having sex, so I don't even know 788.5823 550 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 788.5823 (pause 0.53) 789.1093 551 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 789.1093 why I liked it. Like, 790.2843 552 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 790.2843 (pause 0.88) 791.1609 553 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 791.1609 [I didn't-] 791.5013 554 DCB_int_01 791.1656 [But it's] probably because you weren't doing [those things. Right?] It was- It was- You were [able to live vicariously through the book.] 796.7832 555 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 793.0731 [] 794.3424 556 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 794.3424 (pause 0.36) 794.7036 557 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 794.7036 [But you would think that- But it would th-] But it would think that you- It would make you want to go out and do those things, and it didn't for me. I think I waited til college until I started doing all that. 802.9558 558 DCB_int_01 803.6692 [But see that's] exactly [what- That's ex-] That's ex- [Amen. Thank God she read the books. Yes, Jesus.] 808.7739 559 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 803.7100 [Uh-huh-huh.] 804.4281 560 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 804.4281 (pause 0.43) 804.8617 561 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 804.8617 [] 805.6311 562 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 805.6311 (pause 0.61) 806.2420 563 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 806.2420 [] 809.3381 564 DCB_int_01 809.8172 Um, what college did you go to? 810.9876 565 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 811.2208 /RD-SCHOOL-8/ in Ohio. 813.0486 566 DCB_int_01 813.7248 Oh, how did you- 814.5921 567 DCB_int_01 814.5921 (pause 0.44) 815.0304 568 DCB_int_01 815.0304 Now I asked you. 816.0236 569 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 816.3162 [] 816.9876 570 DCB_int_01 816.3208 [I said,] 816.9876 571 DCB_int_01 817.7477 did you live anywhere else? 818.9880 572 DCB_int_01 818.9880 (pause 0.20) 819.1839 573 DCB_int_01 819.1839 Northeast. 819.9392 574 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 820.3076 [Oh I didn't /know/! ] 822.7543 575 DCB_int_01 820.3169 [So- /So-/] 821.2355 576 DCB_int_01 821.2355 (pause 0.41) 821.6412 577 DCB_int_01 821.6412 [ I mean, well you kind of did live t- I mean, going to college- 824.6570 578 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 824.7036 Well it is- I was there for four years! 826.6294 579 DCB_int_01 826.5734 Right, so you did live there. 828.1576 580 DCB_int_01 828.4934 Um, tell me how was that experience, like leaving DC cause that's very different. 832.8765 581 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 832.8998 Very [different. ] 838.8112 582 DCB_int_01 833.4081 [Like, you all up in Ohio. You in middle America.] 836.1440 583 DCB_int_01 836.1440 (pause 0.59) 836.7362 584 DCB_int_01 836.7362 [Sort of.] 837.1839 585 DCB_int_01 837.1839 (pause 0.28) 837.4590 586 DCB_int_01 837.4590 [Not quite middle yet, but] 838.8718 587 DCB_int_01 839.2355 how was that? 839.8744 588 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 840.1949 [Uh-] 840.5120 589 DCB_int_01 840.2008 [And how did] you- Wait. [How did you get to Ohio?] 842.3585 590 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 841.0762 [] 842.4471 591 DCB_int_01 842.5544 Like, 842.7875 592 DCB_int_01 842.7875 (pause 0.35) 843.1372 593 DCB_int_01 843.1372 how- What- What made you go from [/RD-SCHOOL-4/ to] 845.9863 594 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 845.2402 [] 846.0049 595 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 846.3442 Uh- 846.5260 596 DCB_int_01 846.7312 [Ohi- Like there's so many schools like Howard, Georgetown], George Washington. You could go to [UVA, like-] 852.0096 597 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 846.7545 [/RD-SCHOOL-3/ ] 849.7621 598 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 849.7621 (pause 1.45) 851.2122 599 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 851.2122 [So] I knew I didn't want to stay 853.9435 600 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 854.3352 [in DC], 855.0253 601 DCB_int_01 854.3539 [Mm.] 854.7316 602 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 855.9952 even though my grandparents 857.1003 603 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 857.1003 (pause 0.69) 857.7893 604 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 857.7893 begged me to stay in DC. 859.7290 605 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 859.7290 (pause 0.34) 860.0694 606 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 860.0694 And so, um, 861.6175 607 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 861.6175 (pause 0.84) 862.4615 608 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 862.4615 in Broadcast, I became friends with one of my friends Charity, who is now my sorority sister. 868.0651 609 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 868.0651 (pause 0.42) 868.4895 610 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 868.4895 Um, her mom 870.5085 611 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 870.5085 (pause 0.84) 871.3467 612 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 871.3467 went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, and so like Dawn Dance was coming up. And so Dawn Dance is a big thing at /RD-SCHOOL-3/, and she was like, I'm'a take you all to Dawn Dance so y'all can go visit /RD-SCHOOL-3/. I'm like, okay, I'm so excited. And by the time- this is like our eleventh grade year. 881.8406 613 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 881.8406 (pause 0.36) 882.1996 614 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 882.1996 And so when we went to Dawn Dance, we didn't know- but once we got to Ohio, they was all, y'all can stay on campus really get the feel 887.5759 615 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 887.5759 (pause 0.46) 888.0317 616 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 888.0317 of what it is. So we stayed on campus like that whole weekend. We got to go to all the parties, all the step shows 892.9884 617 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 892.9884 (pause 0.41) 893.3941 618 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 893.3941 and all that stuff. 894.3365 619 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 894.3365 (pause 0.25) 894.5820 620 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 894.5820 And so when I got there, it was a shock, because DC a city. Out there it's no busses, it's no trains. I'm talking about in the middle of nowhere- corn fields, 902.5544 621 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 902.5544 (pause 0.51) 903.0673 622 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 903.0673 KKK, like, 904.4801 623 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 904.4801 (pause 0.89) 905.3708 624 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 905.3708 it was- 905.8744 625 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 905.8744 (pause 0.23) 906.1028 626 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 906.1028 it was off the chain. 907.0249 627 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 907.0249 (pause 0.52) 907.5425 628 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 907.5425 But I loved it, and then since that /RD-SCHOOL-3/ is very small, and it was very family oriented. And it's also a religious based 913.1695 629 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 913.1695 (pause 0.53) 913.7011 630 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 913.7011 school, so I had got like a um- 915.4077 631 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 915.4077 (pause 0.29) 915.6968 632 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 915.6968 a small faith based scholarship. 917.2262 633 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 917.2262 (pause 0.51) 917.7380 634 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 917.7380 And so, I liked that religious aspect cause I was very 920.4844 635 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 920.4844 (pause 0.28) 920.7595 636 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 920.7595 um, 921.2258 637 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 921.2258 (pause 1.05) 922.2750 638 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 922.2750 into church, well church going 924.3826 639 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 924.3826 (pause 0.52) 924.8990 640 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 924.8990 um, at that point in my life. And so, 926.9041 641 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 926.9041 (pause 0.21) 927.1186 642 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 927.1186 that's where I wanted to be, somewhere that was church affiliated, somewhere that was family /orienated/ 930.6064 643 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 930.6064 (pause 0.35) 930.9550 644 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 930.9550 and small. I didn't want to go to a big school. I didn't want to be a number. 933.5009 645 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 933.5009 (pause 0.19) 933.6875 646 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 933.6875 And so- 934.2283 647 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 934.2283 (pause 0.39) 934.6154 648 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 934.6154 I'm talking about all the classes in one building type small. 937.0902 649 DCB_int_01 938.0461 Oh, like, little. 939.1745 650 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 939.1372 [ No.] 943.4866 651 DCB_int_01 940.1211 [Okay.] 940.4755 652 DCB_int_01 940.4755 (pause 0.23) 940.7086 653 DCB_int_01 940.7086 [Yeah, okay. Cause I- You know, I'm thinking like, maybe it's /two, three/ thousand.] You talking about like- 944.6290 654 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 944.6523 Little. [Maybe no more than fifteen-] 946.4801 655 DCB_int_01 945.3471 [Like five hundred.] 946.5221 656 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 946.7926 Maybe no more than a thousand fifteen hundred. 948.9736 657 DCB_int_01 949.2115 For the whole- 949.8876 658 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 950.3679 But what was good for me is that Central State was right across the street. So if I wanted extra people to go see and meet and 956.2832 659 DCB_int_01 950.3772 [/four years-/] 951.1139 660 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 956.6889 if I wanted to 957.3671 661 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 957.3671 (pause 0.12) 957.4917 662 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 957.4917 get other campus feel, 958.7266 663 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 958.7266 (pause 0.24) 958.9644 664 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 958.9644 I could go right across the street to Central where a lot of people from DC 961.7936 665 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 961.7936 (pause 0.39) 962.1853 666 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 962.1853 um, ended up going. Then Wright State, 963.8313 667 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 963.8313 (pause 0.83) 964.6660 668 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 964.6660 up the street. If I wanted to get fancy, I could go to O State 967.4682 669 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 967.4682 (pause 0.13) 967.5979 670 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 967.5979 and come /out ??/. 968.8521 671 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 968.8521 (pause 1.11) 969.9572 672 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 969.9572 [I liked my school.] 970.9551 673 DCB_int_01 969.9572 [So did you drive?] 970.9597 674 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 971.2115 No, I didn't drive, but all my friends, my sorority sisters, boyfriend. 974.9594 675 DCB_int_01 975.5329 So what sorority are you in? 976.4049 676 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 976.6287 Gamma Phi Delta Sorority. 978.2187 677 DCB_int_01 978.2234 And what's Gamma Phi- I've [never-] 979.3926 678 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 979.2248 [It's a] business and professional women sorority. 982.0691 679 DCB_int_01 982.4701 [Mm-hm.] 982.9084 680 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 982.4935 [And] so, 983.2861 681 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 983.6265 I know a lot of people that like Divine Nine but for me, 986.0128 682 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 986.0128 (pause 0.34) 986.3485 683 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 986.3485 when it came time for me to choose what sorority I wanted to 989.2255 684 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 989.2255 (pause 0.42) 989.6498 685 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 989.6498 um, partake in, 991.3507 686 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 991.3507 (pause 0.34) 991.6864 687 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 991.6864 Gamma Phi Delta was who was running the yard. 993.9852 688 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 993.9852 (pause 1.24) 995.2302 689 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 995.2302 They were the ones really doing stuff for the youth. So I said, it's n- not about the name, it's about what they're really doing on campus and in the community. 1002.2887 690 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1002.2887 (pause 0.51) 1002.7958 691 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1002.7958 And so, 1003.4299 692 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1003.4299 (pause 0.26) 1003.6910 693 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1003.6910 when I became a part of Gamma Phi Delta, 1005.4956 694 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1005.4956 (pause 0.81) 1006.3069 695 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1006.3069 our line was twelve. That was the biggest /RD-SCHOOL-3/ had seen 1009.9615 696 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1009.9615 (pause 0.54) 1010.4977 697 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1010.4977 in awhile because 1011.7940 698 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1011.7940 (pause 0.33) 1012.1204 699 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1012.1204 people wasn't really 1012.9597 700 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1012.9597 (pause 0.45) 1013.4120 701 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1013.4120 doing other things, and so once I became, it was like, oh everybody wanted to be in Gamma. Then I became president, 1017.7054 702 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1017.7054 (pause 0.27) 1017.9759 703 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1017.9759 at the sorority, 1018.8711 704 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1018.8711 (pause 0.69) 1019.5659 705 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1019.5659 and things like that. So I kind of took it- 1021.3740 706 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1021.3740 (pause 1.20) 1022.5770 707 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1022.5770 Uh, so that's who ran the yard up until I graduated. So. 1026.1022 708 DCB_int_01 1026.4787 I could see you- I could see that. 1027.9055 709 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1027.9801 [] 1028.5630 710 DCB_int_01 1028.2180 [But did] y'all- Okay. So did y'all do like, 1030.0318 711 DCB_int_01 1030.4328 um- Did y'all participate with like- Did y'all do step shows? Did y'all do the stuff? 1034.2832 712 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1034.3625 We did do step shows, but um, 1036.9597 713 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1036.9597 (pause 0.67) 1037.6265 714 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1037.6265 we were cool with like, the Divine Nine, 1039.6771 715 DCB_int_01 1039.7936 Mm-hm. 1040.0501 716 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1039.9568 not so much the girls, um, 1041.8406 717 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1042.3069 but the guys 1043.2349 718 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1043.2349 (pause 0.39) 1043.6219 719 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1043.6219 and some of the 1044.3854 720 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1044.3854 (pause 0.46) 1044.8424 721 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1044.8424 female 1045.4346 722 DCB_int_01 1045.5885 [So did y'all do like, parties] [with them?] 1047.6401 723 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1045.6071 [/unintelligible/] 1046.6423 724 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1046.6423 (pause 0.46) 1047.1039 725 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1047.1039 [We did parties], yep. Mm-hm. Mixes with the Qs, 1050.4705 726 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1050.7258 with the Sigmas. 1051.7330 727 DCB_int_01 1052.4278 I can see- 1052.8754 728 DCB_int_01 1052.8754 (pause 0.33) 1053.2018 729 DCB_int_01 1053.2018 What's your favorite? 1053.8546 730 DCB_int_01 1053.8546 (pause 0.20) 1054.0551 731 DCB_int_01 1054.0551 Who your- What's your favorite group? 1055.0577 732 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1055.1602 I like Alphas. 1056.1907 733 DCB_int_01 1056.5346 Really? 1057.0476 734 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1057.3646 [Yes. ] 1058.2692 735 DCB_int_01 1057.3740 [I would have not-] 1058.2692 736 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1058.7355 [] 1061.4260 737 DCB_int_01 1058.7355 [Mm.] 1059.1132 738 DCB_int_01 1059.1132 (pause 1.77) 1060.8851 739 DCB_int_01 1060.8851 [Why?] 1061.2675 740 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1062.2420 They just like, 1062.9974 741 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1062.9974 (pause 0.45) 1063.4486 742 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1063.4486 it's weird. I feel like they like the 1064.8568 743 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1064.8568 (pause 0.52) 1065.3744 744 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1065.3744 businessmen in a suit, but they also like the 1067.5426 745 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1067.5426 (pause 0.25) 1067.7897 746 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1067.7897 manly man, like, not the the- you know they got that street edge, but business mentality. 1072.7825 747 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1072.7825 (pause 0.55) 1073.3374 748 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1073.3374 [Qs] just too nasty. [Sigma-] 1075.2154 749 DCB_int_01 1073.3514 [/You know/-] 1073.6872 750 DCB_int_01 1073.6872 (pause 1.12) 1074.8098 751 DCB_int_01 1074.8098 [See, and] that's why I would have [put you with Qs or Kappas.] 1077.2298 752 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1075.8822 [] 1080.8284 753 DCB_int_01 1077.9712 [But that's the perception! And you know- And that's so funny becau-] Like, no Lakeda. Seriously, but at the same time, knowing you- You're not- 1084.5494 754 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1084.9131 1086.5533 755 DCB_int_01 1086.8331 I don't know, but I would have most definitely been like, yeah, she like them Qs and them [Kappas.] 1090.8618 756 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1090.4422 [Aw], I run away from the Ques. 1092.3062 757 DCB_int_01 1092.4600 [I'm a Alpha or Iota-] Iotas. [I love the Iotas.] [People don't give them credit.] 1096.2463 758 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1092.4694 [Yeah, they scare me.] 1093.3973 759 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1093.3973 (pause 0.84) 1094.2413 760 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1094.2413 [Yeah.] 1094.7589 761 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1094.7589 (pause 0.28) 1095.0433 762 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1095.0433 [I love the Iotas too.] They don't. 1096.8245 763 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1097.0297 [And it's] crazy because [um]- 1099.2854 764 DCB_int_01 1097.0483 [But I-] 1097.4633 765 DCB_int_01 1097.4633 (pause 1.30) 1098.7678 766 DCB_int_01 1098.7678 [I think they're] very [sophisticated.] 1100.4977 767 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1099.9475 [What people] fail to realize is that- 1102.0318 768 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1102.2650 And that's what we s- w- 1103.2815 769 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1103.2815 (pause 0.38) 1103.6592 770 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1103.6592 We was aksed to be a part of the Divine Nine. 1105.6817 771 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1105.6817 (pause 0.73) 1106.4091 772 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1106.4091 We deny it cause we twenty years younger than Iotas. 1109.5473 773 DCB_int_01 1110.4461 Mm, so y'all what [nineteen seventy-ish?] [Nineteen eighty-ish?] 1113.9619 774 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1111.4299 [We was foun-] 1112.1900 775 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1112.1900 (pause 0.47) 1112.6609 776 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1112.6609 [We was founded in nineteen forty] three. 1114.4701 777 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1114.6380 Iotas, I want to say nineteen sixty three. 1116.4192 778 DCB_int_01 1117.2061 Y'all young- Oh, younger. I'm thinking- Mm. 1119.1272 779 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1119.1272 No. 1119.3464 780 DCB_int_01 1119.3604 Mm-mm. So I'm adding twenty [years. So-] 1121.4540 781 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1120.7592 [Yeah. We] down. 1122.0369 782 DCB_int_01 1122.0742 Okay, so y'all are twenty [years older than them.] 1124.0967 783 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1123.0382 [Right, and so my] founders were a part of the Divine Nine, so that's why we didn't accept the invitation cause our founders were already a part 1129.4066 784 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1129.8169 of D Nine organizations. 1131.6308 785 DCB_int_01 1132.3356 [Mm.] 1133.5823 786 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1132.9465 [And so], 1133.7718 787 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1134.7417 we did [not.] 1135.2499 788 DCB_int_01 1134.9935 [Who were they?] Deltas, [AKAs?] 1136.3970 789 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1136.0846 [Yep.] 1136.4110 790 DCB_int_01 1136.5136 [Mm-hm.] 1137.0125 791 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1136.7607 [Mm-hm.] 1137.3296 792 DCB_int_01 1137.4916 Because the AKs, then the Deltas broke off. That's why [they're call-] [Deltas change], right? 1141.5390 793 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1140.1915 [Yeah.] 1140.5318 794 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1140.5318 (pause 0.18) 1140.7137 795 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1140.7137 [Mm-hm.] 1141.1940 796 DCB_int_01 1142.0659 Um, 1142.6908 797 DCB_int_01 1142.6908 (pause 0.47) 1143.1606 798 DCB_int_01 1143.1606 so how was Greek life? 1144.7133 799 DCB_int_01 1144.7133 (pause 0.70) 1145.4174 800 DCB_int_01 1145.4174 Do you fe- Like, do you feel like you got the Greek experience? 1148.5369 801 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1148.6441 [I did g-] 1149.5581 802 DCB_int_01 1148.6441 Even then with the 1149.5581 803 DCB_int_01 1149.6408 not being in the Divine Nine? 1150.9045 804 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1151.2122 Yes of course, 1152.2008 805 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1152.2008 (pause 0.22) 1152.4199 806 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1152.4199 if not more, um, 1154.1452 807 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1154.1452 (pause 2.05) 1156.1911 808 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1156.1911 I want to see if I can say this. I pledged 1158.6344 809 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1158.6344 (pause 0.80) 1159.4318 810 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1159.4318 [ya-] 1159.8421 811 DCB_int_01 1159.4411 [You had a] membership intake process. 1161.2130 812 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1161.9859 Yeah. 1162.3589 813 DCB_int_01 1162.4102 [Thank you.] 1163.0071 814 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1162.6107 [Membership] intake process, 1164.4293 815 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1165.0121 and so I got the experience just as if anyone else did, and we got respect 1169.5853 816 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1169.5853 (pause 0.79) 1170.3733 817 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1170.3733 from other Greek organizations. That's what /most sorority of girls/, cause I feel like, it was a jealousy thing, like, who are they, think they come in and take over, though we did take over. Like, 1177.1753 818 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1177.1753 (pause 0.57) 1177.7442 819 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1177.7442 pro show- best pro sho any 1179.6420 820 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1179.6420 (pause 0.33) 1179.9672 821 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1179.9672 body have seen on the campus. And they came to us like, 1182.2847 822 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1182.2847 (pause 0.51) 1182.7930 823 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1182.7930 (pause 4.53) 1187.3242 824 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1187.3242 (pause 0.38) 1187.7018 825 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1187.7018 where the campus got to vote like, which sorority do you like the most? Who's doing the most? I'm talking about /we adopted floors/. 1192.3170 826 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1192.3170 (pause 0.42) 1192.7366 827 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1192.7366 We did stuff in the you- with the youth cause we work with underprivileged youth. Like, although we business professional, our goal is like, to work with 1198.5268 828 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1198.5268 (pause 0.36) 1198.8905 829 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1198.8905 underprivileged youth. 1199.9490 830 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1199.9490 (pause 0.49) 1200.4386 831 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1200.4386 And so we did other stuff than just parties, as opposed to what I think uh, Divine Nine's like, uh, social. 1206.1029 832 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1206.1029 (pause 0.29) 1206.3920 833 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1206.3920 Even though they do community stuff, most of it is social. 1208.4763 834 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1208.4763 (pause 0.36) 1208.8353 835 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1208.8353 And we did social, 1209.9579 836 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1209.9579 (pause 0.23) 1210.1911 837 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1210.1911 [business, and community.] 1211.6785 838 DCB_int_01 1210.4009 [But that was the secondary] was the [social?] 1212.4712 839 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1212.2614 [Mm-hm.] 1213.0028 840 DCB_int_01 1212.9282 So what organization did y'all like, work with the most? 1215.6373 841 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1216.1584 On campus it would have had to be 1219.0075 842 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1219.0075 (pause 0.48) 1219.4924 843 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1219.4924 the Sigmas, 1221.1244 844 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1221.1244 (pause 1.97) 1223.0957 845 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1223.0957 and it's this other um, Greek organization that's not Divine Nine, but New Zeta Epsilon. They're Christian based. 1228.9651 846 DCB_int_01 1229.7998 But I mean like, I'm talking about youth. Like, what youth group did y'all work [with /th-/?] 1233.2690 847 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1232.7887 [Oh it-] It wasn't necessarily youth group. We would just go out in the community and get youth in the community. 1236.8722 848 DCB_int_01 1237.0914 Oh so y'all would do m- So [it wasn't] like you were part of the [Boys and Girls Club?] 1240.0883 849 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1238.0986 [Yeah.] 1238.4343 850 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1238.4343 (pause 0.59) 1239.0218 851 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1239.0218 [Right, so we would host-] So we- We might host, let's say- For Halloween every year we would do like, this um- 1243.9587 852 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1244.6348 this f- uh, Halloween feast. And we'll go in the community like Walmart, pass out papers like the /Gammas/ are having 1249.6976 853 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1249.6976 (pause 0.43) 1250.1312 854 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1250.1312 The Autumn Festivities Festival, come here. And then all the youth would start to build up that way, 1254.9375 855 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1254.9375 (pause 0.28) 1255.2220 856 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1255.2220 like that. 1255.6509 857 DCB_int_01 1255.6230 Gotcha. 1256.1825 858 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1256.3084 [Mm-hm.] 1256.9566 859 DCB_int_01 1256.6348 [Gotcha.] So you're more so giving them another option to [st- different things.] 1260.4106 860 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1259.3848 [So we would host it on] campus, 1261.1100 861 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1261.4085 and we'll go in the community to get all the kids to come 1263.5315 862 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1263.5315 (pause 0.05) 1263.5863 863 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1263.5863 on the college campus to our event. 1265.1610 864 DCB_int_01 1265.3848 But it wasn't a big city right? 1266.6484 865 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1266.8582 No, not at all. 1267.8701 866 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1267.8701 (pause 0.53) 1268.3970 867 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1268.3970 [Mm-mm.] 1268.8400 868 DCB_int_01 1268.6395 [With the] cornfields and [all that.] 1270.0698 869 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1269.4310 [Yeah.] 1270.0372 870 DCB_int_01 1270.3899 [ That was funny] to me. 1271.7438 871 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1270.3962 [Mm-hm.] 1271.3102 872 DCB_int_01 1272.3034 So, 1272.9888 873 DCB_int_01 1272.9888 (pause 1.00) 1273.9913 874 DCB_int_01 1273.9913 do you have any siblings? 1275.1373 875 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1275.5802 Yes, one. 1276.5828 876 DCB_int_01 1276.6201 Wait, first before we go back to the siblings, 1278.3682 877 DCB_int_01 1278.3682 (pause 0.10) 1278.4729 878 DCB_int_01 1278.4729 what did you major in in college? 1279.7793 879 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1280.0986 Mass media and [communications.] 1281.8997 880 DCB_int_01 1281.5756 [Oh] cause you did Broadcast. That makes sense. 1283.4559 881 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1283.3475 1284.3873 882 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1284.6438 But I feel like I should have went with social work. 1286.4411 883 DCB_int_01 1287.0498 Cause that's what you do. 1287.7679 884 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1288.0279 Mm-hm. 1288.3822 885 DCB_int_01 1288.3543 Right now. 1288.7460 886 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1288.7693 Yeah, [my own mentoring] program, work with the kids. 1291.6696 887 DCB_int_01 1289.2589 [Mm-hm.] 1289.6226 888 DCB_int_01 1292.2944 But do you feel like that kind of gave you a idea? Like, 1295.2962 889 DCB_int_01 1295.2962 (pause 0.35) 1295.6412 890 DCB_int_01 1295.6412 how do you feel like that's connected? Cause I feel like everything we [do is connected.] 1299.2317 891 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1298.0240 [I feel like it's connected too] cause I feel like, with dealing with that you have to learn how to communicate. If you know- You have to learn how to 1303.1846 892 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1303.4971 be able to talk to people and stuff like that. So I feel like it worked in a sense, 1307.6565 893 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1307.6565 (pause 0.79) 1308.4479 894 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1308.4479 but I definitely thought I should have went into social work. But I don't feel like I had to go into social work to be in social work. 1312.7599 895 DCB_int_01 1313.2402 Mm-hm. 1313.6645 896 DCB_int_01 1313.6645 (pause 0.19) 1313.8557 897 DCB_int_01 1313.8557 Mm-hm. 1314.2381 898 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1314.6764 Yeah. 1314.9142 899 DCB_int_01 1315.2126 So did you- Okay. So you have one- You have a brother. 1317.9066 900 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1318.0325 Mm-hm. 1318.4569 901 DCB_int_01 1318.4662 Mm-hm. 1318.8112 902 DCB_int_01 1318.8112 (pause 0.14) 1318.9558 903 DCB_int_01 1318.9558 And how- 1319.3661 904 DCB_int_01 1319.3661 (pause 0.47) 1319.8371 905 DCB_int_01 1319.8371 Y'all have a age 1320.7230 906 DCB_int_01 1320.7230 (pause 0.18) 1320.9002 907 DCB_int_01 1320.9002 [gap.] 1321.2639 908 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1320.9795 [Gap.] 1321.2499 909 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1321.5111 [Yep, eleven] years. 1322.5649 910 DCB_int_01 1321.6230 [/Mm-hm/.] 1321.9867 911 DCB_int_01 1323.5942 How was that? 1324.1724 912 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1324.6154 1325.6459 913 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1325.6459 (pause 0.96) 1326.6018 914 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1326.6018 Um, I love my brother to death. We very close, and so even though that age gap is there, 1332.5039 915 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1332.5039 (pause 0.54) 1333.0401 916 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1333.0401 we're still very close. So I'm talking about even though he's thirteen, if I'm at home, he will come and lay up under me, lay in my bed. 1338.8676 917 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1338.8676 (pause 0.33) 1339.1986 918 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1339.1986 He got to kiss on me. He got to hug on me. He got to talk to me about everything that goes on in his life. 1343.6412 919 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1343.6412 (pause 0.53) 1344.1681 920 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1344.1681 And then I kind of- 1345.4458 921 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1345.4458 (pause 0.27) 1345.7116 922 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1345.7116 My mom said I think I'm his mama, and I'm the one that like, 1348.0885 923 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1348.0885 (pause 0.43) 1348.5175 924 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1348.5175 got to know what school he going to, help register for school. 1350.9795 925 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1350.9795 (pause 0.48) 1351.4551 926 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1351.4551 I got to know about all doctor's appointments, got to give my decision, no, I don't think he should go there. 1355.7018 927 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1355.7018 (pause 0.48) 1356.1868 928 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1356.1868 he needs to go here. 1357.0401 929 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1357.0401 (pause 0.41) 1357.4458 930 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1357.4458 And so 1358.1312 931 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1358.1312 (pause 0.16) 1358.2944 932 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1358.2944 it's amazing. I love my younger brother. 1360.3729 933 DCB_int_01 1360.5268 So, even now, are you and your mom more like sisters? 1363.2173 934 DCB_int_01 1363.2173 (pause 0.20) 1363.4131 935 DCB_int_01 1363.4131 Are y'all- Like is it, 1364.4483 936 DCB_int_01 1364.4483 (pause 0.35) 1364.7969 937 DCB_int_01 1364.7969 mother daughter or is it more like, 1366.3356 938 DCB_int_01 1366.3356 (pause 0.54) 1366.8765 939 DCB_int_01 1366.8765 That's my sister. 1367.6552 940 DCB_int_01 1367.6552 (pause 0.66) 1368.3127 941 DCB_int_01 1368.3127 I mean even though you might not call her your sister, but 1370.1685 942 DCB_int_01 1370.1685 (pause 0.09) 1370.2571 943 DCB_int_01 1370.2571 does it [feel more like] [that? Or does it] feel like, no, [that's my mama.] 1373.2635 944 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1370.6814 [Mm-hm.] 1371.2643 945 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1371.2643 (pause 0.10) 1371.3669 946 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1371.3669 [Mm-hm.] 1371.9358 947 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1371.9358 (pause 0.64) 1372.5781 948 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1372.5781 [It f- It] feel like more like sisters. Mm-hm. 1375.3665 949 DCB_int_01 1376.0799 Do you think she feels that way too? 1377.5021 950 DCB_int_01 1377.5021 (pause 0.99) 1378.4895 951 DCB_int_01 1378.4895 Or she feels like, no, that's my daughter. 1379.8371 952 DCB_int_01 1379.8371 (pause 0.44) 1380.2800 953 DCB_int_01 1380.2800 Don't get it twisted. 1381.1753 954 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1382.1219 She'll say that, 1383.0638 955 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1383.0638 (pause 0.24) 1383.3051 956 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1383.3051 but I would think she would feel like sisters too. 1385.2868 957 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1385.2868 (pause 0.37) 1385.6552 958 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1385.6552 But it's just weird because when we in public, 1387.9680 959 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1387.9680 (pause 0.48) 1388.4436 960 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1388.4436 and I call her Ma, she be like, oh, don't call me Ma in public. /We/ try and guess my age. And we always laugh about it cause we be like, 1393.3432 961 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1393.3432 (pause 0.36) 1393.7022 962 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1393.7022 That's not your daughter. 1394.4483 963 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1394.4483 (pause 0.17) 1394.6162 964 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1394.6162 She be like, yes, that's my daughter. 1395.9031 965 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1395.9031 (pause 1.09) 1396.9931 966 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1396.9931 But it's more like sisters and my grandma just like, my [mother.] 1399.9820 967 DCB_int_01 1399.4271 [/Mother/.] 1399.8701 968 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1400.1079 But it's weird but 1401.6129 969 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1401.6129 (pause 0.25) 1401.8600 970 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1401.8600 I still have that respect for my mother like, 1403.1791 971 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1403.1791 (pause 0.14) 1403.3165 972 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1403.3165 still gonna call her Ma. 1404.7603 973 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1404.7603 (pause 0.64) 1405.4038 974 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1405.4038 She named me after her, it's so weird. But 1407.3855 975 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1407.3855 (pause 0.21) 1407.5942 976 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1407.5942 um- 1408.0745 977 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1408.0745 (pause 0.10) 1408.1771 978 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1408.1771 [/So my mom-/] 1408.7180 979 DCB_int_01 1408.1864 [So your mom is] also named /RD-NAME-3/. 1409.6133 980 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1409.8324 /RD-NAME-3/, now I'm /RD-NAME-3/. 1411.1520 981 DCB_int_01 1411.3572 Ah. [Gotcha. Okay.] 1412.6301 982 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1411.9913 [And then I'm] 1412.6441 983 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1412.7980 /RD-NAME-2/ and she's /RD-NAME-2/. 1414.3683 984 DCB_int_01 1415.1190 Gotcha. 1415.8371 985 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1415.6552 [] But yeah. We have that mother daughter relationship, but it's more like sisters cause she's so young. So like, a lot of stuff like, you can't really get away on her cause l- 1423.9867 986 DCB_int_01 1416.1961 [Okay.] 1416.8769 987 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1424.4296 she- 1424.7001 988 DCB_int_01 1425.2305 [I think that's why] you and /RD-NAME-3/ get along cause she's your mom's [age.] 1428.5132 989 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1425.2398 [/I think I have a good-/] 1425.9439 990 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1425.9439 (pause 2.29) 1428.2381 991 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1428.2381 [Mm.] 1428.7277 992 DCB_int_01 1428.6904 A litt- [/I don't/- Old- Younger.] 1430.6255 993 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1429.0168 [A little bit youn- youn-] Yep, cause my mom about to be forty next year. [So, Dom- older- Yep.] By two years, yep. [Mm-hm.] 1435.6976 994 DCB_int_01 1433.1097 [So she's a little older than your mom.] 1434.6298 995 DCB_int_01 1434.6298 (pause 0.87) 1435.4971 996 DCB_int_01 1435.4971 [And I] think that's exactly- But that's [why you- Is why because you-] That's what you've [grown up with. And I think it's] that big sister- 1442.0286 997 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1436.8213 [But that probably is why then- ] 1438.9185 998 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1438.9185 (pause 0.67) 1439.5899 999 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1439.5899 [Grown up with. Mm-hm.] 1441.0634 1000 DCB_int_01 1442.3177 Cause I think that's why- It's funny watching you and /RD-NAME-3/. 1444.5967 1001 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1445.3708 Yep. 1445.7252 1002 DCB_int_01 1446.4806 It's very much like the big [sister], [but like] not the real big sister cause like, I think 1451.1003 1003 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1448.1126 [Huh.] 1448.3457 1004 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1448.3457 (pause 0.33) 1448.6768 1005 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1448.6768 [/Uh-huh/.] 1449.1384 1006 DCB_int_01 1451.3148 your mom is like [the real big sister. But /RD-NAME-3/ like your little big sister.] 1454.8307 1007 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1452.1075 [The real big sister. But /RD-NAME-3/ like a little- Yep.] Mm-hm. I think so [too.] 1456.3449 1008 DCB_int_01 1456.2051 [Mm-hm.] And then /RD-NAME-2/ is like the mama. 1457.9350 1009 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1457.8977 Mm-hm. 1458.5412 1010 DCB_int_01 1459.1427 Yeah, she- 1459.6836 1011 DCB_int_01 1459.6836 (pause 0.14) 1459.8281 1012 DCB_int_01 1459.8281 she most definitely is. She's always- She said it, 1461.6420 1013 DCB_int_01 1461.6420 (pause 0.64) 1462.2843 1014 DCB_int_01 1462.2843 I had to be the principal today. Lord, these children. 1464.4526 1015 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1464.6251 [Mm-hm. She's like the mama. Yep. Mm-hm.] 1467.5114 1016 DCB_int_01 1464.7883 [And-] 1465.0261 1017 DCB_int_01 1465.0261 (pause 0.19) 1465.2126 1018 DCB_int_01 1465.2126 [But she's the club principal. Mm-hm. Mm-hm.] 1467.5301 1019 DCB_int_01 1467.9486 Um, 1468.4289 1020 DCB_int_01 1468.4289 (pause 0.18) 1468.6061 1021 DCB_int_01 1468.6061 so you have one older brother, 1469.9536 1022 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1470.2008 [One younger brother.] 1471.0681 1023 DCB_int_01 1470.2008 [and then y- I mean] one younger [brother.] That's what I meant. 1472.2385 1024 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1471.5344 [Yeah.] 1471.8608 1025 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1472.5182 [Mm-hm.] 1473.0218 1026 DCB_int_01 1472.5322 [Do you have any] other big family in DC besides your grandparents? 1475.6793 1027 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1476.0562 Um, like my uncles. 1478.2291 1028 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1478.2291 (pause 0.26) 1478.4856 1029 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1478.4856 I don't have no aunts at all. 1480.2051 1030 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1480.2051 (pause 0.43) 1480.6340 1031 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1480.6340 Two uncles. 1481.3848 1032 DCB_int_01 1481.3615 So your mama- So your grandparents had three kids. 1483.7395 1033 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1483.7349 Yep. 1484.0519 1034 DCB_int_01 1484.7467 Two boys and a girl. 1485.5814 1035 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1485.7388 Mm-hm. 1486.2004 1036 DCB_int_01 1486.4429 Was your mom the youngest or oldest? 1487.8044 1037 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1488.3453 My mom is the baby. 1489.4458 1038 DCB_int_01 1490.1032 [Spoiled.] 1490.8446 1039 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1490.4343 [So] when I came, 1491.4497 1040 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1491.7807 I [became the baby.] 1492.7366 1041 DCB_int_01 1492.1118 [Oh.] 1492.7226 1042 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1493.0211 [So that's what I was] telling you 1494.2567 1043 DCB_int_01 1493.0211 [/That's why-/] 1493.7578 1044 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1494.5552 [] So it became] not about her and more so about me. 1498.9558 1045 DCB_int_01 1495.0028 [Now I see that it makes sense. 1496.7934 1046 DCB_int_01 1498.9744 And that's when she was y- [How big-] How 1500.5878 1047 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1499.6832 [Yeah.] 1500.3034 1048 DCB_int_01 1500.7836 big is the gap from your mom to your- 1502.3271 1049 DCB_int_01 1502.3271 (pause 0.28) 1502.6022 1050 DCB_int_01 1502.6022 your uncle? Your- the middle child? 1504.3543 1051 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1504.4895 U- u- So, 1504.9325 1052 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1504.9325 (pause 0.29) 1505.2216 1053 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1505.2216 um, I think it's three and five. 1507.2779 1054 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1507.2779 (pause 0.52) 1507.8002 1055 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1507.8002 [Three years and then five years.] 1509.5208 1056 DCB_int_01 1507.8095 [Oh, and then five years.] So see, 1509.7539 1057 DCB_int_01 1510.2657 yes. You messed that all up because now you were the new [baby and you know] [you-] 1514.4716 1058 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1513.4598 [Uh-huh.] 1513.9867 1059 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1513.9867 (pause 0.28) 1514.2664 1060 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1514.2664 [But my] grandma say all the time like, I was like, the godsend. Like I'm the one that kind of got my uncles off the streets and stuff and 1520.5669 1061 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1520.7814 stuff like that. 1521.6580 1062 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1521.6580 (pause 0.35) 1522.0077 1063 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1522.0077 Yep. 1522.2922 1064 DCB_int_01 1523.1268 So do y'all still do like- 1524.3147 1065 DCB_int_01 1524.3147 (pause 0.21) 1524.5199 1066 DCB_int_01 1524.5199 Do y'all do big family gatherings? Do y'all do Sunday dinner? 1527.5788 1067 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1528.0311 We don't do Sunday dinner, 1529.6351 1068 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1529.6351 (pause 0.19) 1529.8216 1069 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1529.8216 but we're very close. Um, 1532.0447 1070 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1532.0447 (pause 0.77) 1532.8187 1071 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1532.8187 the boys are like mama's boys, 1534.6232 1072 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1534.6232 (pause 0.41) 1535.0289 1073 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1535.0289 and so our family is small. So it's just my uncles, 1537.5411 1074 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1537.5411 (pause 0.37) 1537.9141 1075 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1537.9141 my mom, and that's kind of it. It was my grandparents- We got with the family, but we also did stuff just in our immediate family. 1542.8929 1076 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1542.8929 (pause 0.37) 1543.2660 1077 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1543.2660 But we get together, like we have to see each other, like at least once out the week. 1547.2621 1078 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1547.2621 (pause 0.24) 1547.5045 1079 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1547.5045 So we don't go like, weeks without seeing each other. 1549.5784 1080 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1549.5784 (pause 0.35) 1549.9328 1081 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1549.9328 Not Sunday dinner almost, but if it's like a gathering at the house, fight parties, football season, 1554.8288 1082 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1554.8288 (pause 0.80) 1555.6297 1083 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1555.6297 /we like/. 1556.2032 1084 DCB_int_01 1556.8700 Do you all do something big for uh- 1558.7165 1085 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1558.9683 Dallas and Redskins. 1560.2075 1086 DCB_int_01 1560.6784 Oh. Well yeah, no. I wasn't gonna talk [about them] cause I'm not a big football person. But did y'all do something big for them? 1564.9056 1087 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1562.1731 [Oh, no.] 1562.6301 1088 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1564.9429 Mm-hm. 1565.3486 1089 DCB_int_01 1565.6377 For that- [Y'all-] 1566.1273 1090 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1565.9734 [Yep.] 1566.3511 1091 DCB_int_01 1566.3231 Are y'all a house divided, or everybody's [like] 1568.2478 1092 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1568.0472 [Everybody] Redskin. 1569.0218 1093 DCB_int_01 1569.5207 Oh, okay. 1570.0010 1094 DCB_int_01 1570.0010 (pause 0.66) 1570.6631 1095 DCB_int_01 1570.6631 Mm. 1570.8776 1096 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1571.2273 [] 1573.1625 1097 DCB_int_01 1571.2320 [/Alright/.] 1571.6144 1098 DCB_int_01 1571.6144 (pause 0.51) 1572.1226 1099 DCB_int_01 1572.1226 [Great.] 1572.5551 1100 DCB_int_01 1573.2173 Um, 1574.0612 1101 DCB_int_01 1574.0612 (pause 0.77) 1574.8353 1102 DCB_int_01 1574.8353 no, I was finna say the uh, Pacquiao Mayweather fight. Did y'all do something big? 1578.4817 1103 DCB_int_01 1578.4817 (pause 0.28) 1578.7650 1104 DCB_int_01 1578.7650 Cause that was the [most recent big, big] fight. 1580.4949 1105 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1579.2406 [Well they did], 1580.2944 1106 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1580.5089 but you know I was out of the country. 1582.3880 1107 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1582.3880 (pause 0.63) 1583.0222 1108 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1583.0222 during Pacquiao Mayweather fight /night/. 1584.8582 1109 DCB_int_01 1585.0121 No I didn't know that. Where were you? 1586.2431 1110 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1586.4016 I was on a cruise. 1587.5720 1111 DCB_int_01 1588.4859 Was that that [time?] 1589.3766 1112 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1588.9662 [That's my] twenty fifth birthday. Mm-hm. 1590.7743 1113 DCB_int_01 1591.2592 How was [that?] 1591.9400 1114 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1591.5064 [And so they] did. It was amazing. 1592.9052 1115 DCB_int_01 1593.6326 Cause you haven't told me about it so this is a- as good a [time as any] to talk about it. 1596.6728 1116 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1595.4558 [] 1596.0807 1117 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1597.2266 [] 1598.2198 1118 DCB_int_01 1597.7581 [Tell me.] It was what? A week long? 1599.5627 1119 DCB_int_01 1600.1176 Not [five- It was like f-] 1601.2180 1120 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1600.3274 [It was a- It was a week] long but I stayed in Miami a extra two days. So I was gone like a total of nine days. 1605.5487 1121 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1605.8145 And so even though I've traveled- Like my grandparents made sure I traveled since the age of three- 1609.6136 1122 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1609.6136 (pause 0.55) 1610.1638 1123 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1610.1638 Um, this was my first trip without 1613.2320 1124 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1613.2320 (pause 0.73) 1613.9594 1125 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1613.9594 any 1614.4630 1126 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1614.4630 (pause 0.29) 1614.7568 1127 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1614.7568 older people essentially. It was just like, me and my boyfriend. 1616.9565 1128 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1616.9565 (pause 1.00) 1617.9590 1129 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1617.9590 And so that was- It was a different experience. [It was great.] 1620.3091 1130 DCB_int_01 1619.5351 [Were you ratchet?] 1620.3231 1131 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1621.0634 No, wasn't ratchet. 1622.6314 1132 DCB_int_01 1622.6721 Borderline ratchet? 1623.6886 1133 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1624.2948 /What about/ borderline [ratchet- Maybe. /This is/-] 1626.6868 1134 DCB_int_01 1625.1574 [/I mean/, it's okay, /RD-NAME-3/. You can be borderline] [ratchet.] 1627.3617 1135 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1627.1287 [Maybe] just a little bit, but no, not really. I had a good time. It was amazing. 1630.9009 1136 DCB_int_01 1632.0340 That is like, not detailed at all. That is very much 1635.0871 1137 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1635.2130 [] 1638.4630 1138 DCB_int_01 1635.9824 [like no details. Okay, like what did y'all do? What] did y'all eat? 1638.9153 1139 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1639.5903 [So you know] cruises all you can eat, so I thought I put on a extra pound, so um, 1645.0505 1140 DCB_int_01 1640.6861 [Where'd y'all go?] 1641.2643 1141 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1646.1592 we did that- But then we also, when we went to 1649.0715 1142 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1649.0715 (pause 0.19) 1649.2631 1143 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1649.2631 Antigua 1650.6530 1144 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1650.6530 (pause 1.54) 1652.1965 1145 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1652.1965 we were kind of adventurous. We kind of like, um, met up with a local. 1656.1646 1146 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1656.1646 (pause 0.17) 1656.3325 1147 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1656.3325 He was our taxi driver, 1657.6556 1148 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1657.6556 (pause 0.47) 1658.1219 1149 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1658.1219 but he took us to his neighborhood 1659.7212 1150 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1659.7212 (pause 0.33) 1660.0476 1151 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1660.0476 to really show us. 1661.2320 1152 DCB_int_01 1661.7403 Like, what did- [The non] touristy part? 1663.7442 1153 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1662.2905 [/No/.] 1662.9713 1154 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1662.9713 (pause 0.74) 1663.7115 1155 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1663.7115 Yeah. [And we had a great time.] He cooked for- They cooked for us. 1667.2134 1156 DCB_int_01 1664.8679 [How was that?] 1665.5580 1157 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1667.4605 And it was t- 1668.1693 1158 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1668.1693 (pause 0.55) 1668.7230 1159 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1668.7230 It was the weirdest most funnest thing ever. 1670.7560 1160 DCB_int_01 1671.3715 But how was that? Because- And I'm gonna- And the [reason- I'm asking] you this for a reason, but I want to know specifically how was it 1676.8166 1161 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1673.4558 [] 1673.8335 1162 DCB_int_01 1677.1197 because you got to be a tourist, but then this guy's taking you into his house in- with- /mean/- his family, his neighborhood. 1683.2596 1163 DCB_int_01 1683.2596 (pause 0.25) 1683.5067 1164 DCB_int_01 1683.5067 How did that feel- And what do you feel- Like what did you get from that experience? 1686.9573 1165 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1687.7395 I felt like- Once going into 1690.0057 1166 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1690.0057 (pause 0.32) 1690.3227 1167 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1690.3227 his um, 1691.2973 1168 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1691.2973 (pause 0.46) 1691.7589 1169 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1691.7589 neighborhood, it felt like home essentially because 1694.8213 1170 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1694.8213 (pause 0.34) 1695.1617 1171 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1695.1617 even in like, here, DC, people always take you to the monument, they take you to the capitol, but you don't get to see like, 1699.5343 1172 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1699.5343 (pause 0.48) 1700.0099 1173 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1700.0099 the neighborhood stuff. 1700.9658 1174 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1700.9658 (pause 0.28) 1701.2410 1175 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1701.2410 But in Antigua, it's /all, oh/ this stuff is nice, and you just think the whole place is just beautiful. But then once he took us there, I'm just like, Oh! So it is this type of parts 1708.7331 1176 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1708.7331 (pause 0.44) 1709.1714 1177 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1709.1714 in Antigua. 1710.0294 1178 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1710.0294 (pause 0.28) 1710.3138 1179 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1710.3138 But it was fun. The fact that he like opened his home 1712.8957 1180 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1712.8957 (pause 0.41) 1713.3010 1181 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1713.3010 to us, it was, aw, that's nice. 1715.1911 1182 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1715.1911 (pause 0.60) 1715.7903 1183 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1715.7903 Food was great. 1716.6142 1184 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1716.6142 (pause 0.70) 1717.3097 1185 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1717.3097 My boyfriend didn't want to share cause they kind of made us like one whole bowl, 1720.4730 1186 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1720.4730 (pause 0.18) 1720.6492 1187 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1720.6492 and he kind of like, took over. 1721.9048 1188 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1721.9048 (pause 0.36) 1722.2661 1189 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1722.2661 But it was good. It was like rice and fish and like, you know, they make their juice theirself. 1726.4598 1190 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1726.4598 (pause 0.22) 1726.6800 1191 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1726.6800 Like, from the fruit. 1727.5480 1192 DCB_int_01 1728.8911 So your stuff was fresh. 1730.0498 1193 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1730.0542 Yes, and it was delicious! 1731.6227 1194 DCB_int_01 1731.6183 Like from the tree. 1732.4465 1195 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1732.6051 [Yes. Right there. Right- They did it right there. Yep.] 1735.7943 1196 DCB_int_01 1732.7197 [Right. So they picked it right /where you were s-/] 1735.3411 1197 DCB_int_01 1736.8649 So- 1737.2570 1198 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1737.2658 But we shouldn't- 1737.8209 1199 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1737.8209 (pause 0.30) 1738.1161 1200 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1738.1161 It was dangerous, I will admit 1740.1736 1201 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1740.1736 (pause 0.42) 1740.5965 1202 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1740.5965 in a sense that you did- I didn't- We didn't know who he was. We just [kind of like, went to his neighborhood.] 1745.2043 1203 DCB_int_01 1743.3143 [/I didn't even want say it like that/. I wouldn't want to judge you.] 1745.1911 1204 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1745.5920 But it didn't happen. 1746.9043 1205 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1746.9043 (pause 0.48) 1747.3845 1206 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1747.3845 Thank God. But we had a great time. And I felt like that was our best experience. Like, we- If you talk about- Like, that was our best experience [from the trip.] 1754.2481 1207 DCB_int_01 1753.7546 [I'm'a do a] side note. 1754.7768 1208 DCB_int_01 1755.0015 So when Rhonice and Veronica 1756.6889 1209 DCB_int_01 1756.6889 (pause 0.24) 1756.9312 1210 DCB_int_01 1756.9312 went in the neighborhood to find her phone, 1759.1032 1211 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1760.0322 [] 1760.4772 1212 DCB_int_01 1760.0762 [that was] problematic [for me.] 1761.6315 1213 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1761.2173 [The- the-] They're kids.] 1762.8915 1214 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1763.8035 And so even though I should know better, I- 1765.0327 1215 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1765.0327 (pause 0.24) 1765.2700 1216 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1765.2700 I just don't want 1765.8472 1217 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1765.8472 (pause 0.14) 1765.9837 1218 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1765.9837 to put them out there like that, but 1767.6932 1219 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1767.6932 (pause 0.19) 1767.8870 1220 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1767.8870 for me, yeah. [/But I think-/] 1769.0810 1221 DCB_int_01 1768.6668 [No, no. But did you talk to them?] 1770.4159 1222 DCB_int_01 1770.6224 Because see, that's the pot calling the kettle. But see I'm not gonna [put you- I'm not] gonna put you on blast on [that.] 1775.1162 1223 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1773.5081 [] 1773.9487 1224 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1773.9487 (pause 1.00) 1774.9444 1225 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1774.9444 [But] they went to somebody who stole something from them. That's kind of different than us being in our taxi cab, and like, 1781.0986 1226 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1781.5436 oh y'all want to go see da da da da da? 1782.9534 1227 DCB_int_01 1784.4772 But did you 1784.8957 1228 DCB_int_01 1784.8957 (pause 0.26) 1785.1601 1229 DCB_int_01 1785.1601 talk to them and tell them that that's not a good [idea? In your loving, sisterly way?] 1789.3015 1230 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1786.7814 [Yeah we did. Mm- Yeah. /I d-/ Uh-huh.] All the time. [Yeah.] 1790.1556 1231 DCB_int_01 1789.9044 [Because] that's not- 1790.5917 1232 DCB_int_01 1790.7591 That's not a good idea. 1791.6976 1233 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1791.6491 Right, I [talked to- Cause I told 'em that-] 1793.1426 1234 DCB_int_01 1792.0060 When they [came over /?/, we were like], what? 1793.5304 1235 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1793.6757 I told 'em not to go. I told 'em to go to the police station. 1796.2260 1236 DCB_int_01 1796.3450 Yes, but she's like, well I got my phone back. 1798.5347 1237 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1798.9708 Mm-hm. 1799.4114 1238 DCB_int_01 1799.4158 Um, 1800.1119 1239 DCB_int_01 1800.1119 (pause 0.32) 1800.4329 1240 DCB_int_01 1800.4329 yeah, but you could have got jacked up. 1801.8736 1241 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1801.8251 Yep. 1802.1291 1242 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1802.5212 Which was probably all Rhonice. 1803.8782 1243 DCB_int_01 1804.5611 Really? 1805.0766 1244 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1805.1471 Yes. 1805.7462 1245 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1805.7462 (pause 1.22) 1806.9704 1246 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1806.9704 Yes. 1808.0146 1247 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1808.0146 (pause 0.82) 1808.8384 1248 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1808.8384 [Yes.] 1809.3804 1249 DCB_int_01 1809.1513 [I thought] she was the more [sensical one.] 1811.1779 1250 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1810.4730 [N- N-] No. Rhonice is off the chain. 1812.7948 1251 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1813.2083 Off the chain. 1814.4023 1252 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1814.4023 (pause 0.39) 1814.7944 1253 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1814.7944 Off the chain. 1815.4464 1254 DCB_int_01 1815.5566 So how do you think she gonna do in college? 1817.2396 1255 DCB_int_01 1817.2396 (pause 1.84) 1819.0761 1256 DCB_int_01 1819.0761 Is it gonna humble her or is it gonna like, just really take her to another level of off the chainness? 1823.1603 1257 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1824.0326 I really don't know cause I feel like she gonna get more freedom. 1826.1379 1258 DCB_int_01 1826.5653 Mm-hm. 1826.9089 1259 DCB_int_01 1826.9089 (pause 0.22) 1827.1248 1260 DCB_int_01 1827.1248 But sometimes freedom is- [is-] 1828.6360 1261 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1828.5170 [No.] So I feel like she's gonna do more. 1830.8653 1262 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1831.5652 She do a lot now, under scope, and had a lot of things that even like, somethings that we know that her mom don't know. 1836.9931 1263 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1836.9931 (pause 1.12) 1838.1115 1264 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1838.1115 And so I feel like now when she get away, 1840.0809 1265 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1840.0809 (pause 1.11) 1841.1867 1266 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1841.1867 she might- 1841.8035 1267 DCB_int_01 1841.8520 Well sometimes- That's what I'm saying. Sometimes when you get freedom though, 1844.4992 1268 DCB_int_01 1844.4992 (pause 0.31) 1844.8076 1269 DCB_int_01 1844.8076 [it- it contro- /Probably/ cause you just like], you know what? Alright, now it's no fun. The fun is being able to hide it, 1850.4243 1270 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1844.8473 [/You don't want/- It c- /calms/ you down?] 1846.8078 1271 DCB_int_01 1850.6754 and think you getting away with something. 1852.1425 1272 DCB_int_01 1852.1425 (pause 0.22) 1852.3672 1273 DCB_int_01 1852.3672 Now that you can do it, it's like, eh. 1854.0811 1274 DCB_int_01 1854.0811 (pause 0.57) 1854.6488 1275 DCB_int_01 1854.6488 Do you see what I'm saying? 1855.4903 1276 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1855.5432 Yeah. 1856.0322 1277 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1856.0322 (pause 0.42) 1856.4507 1278 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1856.4507 But I think I was that way around when I went to school. 1858.6051 1279 DCB_int_01 1858.7770 Oh no. See for me like, when I was able to do something, I was like, eh. 1861.4594 1280 DCB_int_01 1861.4594 (pause 0.63) 1862.0939 1281 DCB_int_01 1862.0939 I don't know. But I was also a [very letter to the law kind of girl.] 1864.6184 1282 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1863.0235 [But I think she'll do- I think she'll] do fine. I know she's nervous. It's funny cause we just had this conversation 1867.6885 1283 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1868.0454 over dinner last night. She's kind of nervous um, 1871.1250 1284 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1871.1250 (pause 0.39) 1871.5127 1285 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1871.5127 to make that transition. 1872.9748 1286 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1872.9748 (pause 0.46) 1873.4393 1287 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1873.4393 She just like, hope she do well. [And-] 1875.4723 1288 DCB_int_01 1875.2997 [Did you] tell her that you went to the cornfields and [you was good?] 1877.6592 1289 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1877.0157 [Mm-hm.] Mm-hm. 1878.0555 1290 DCB_int_01 1878.0369 Okay. 1878.4146 1291 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1878.4787 So she should be fine, but I'm tryna get her to 1880.3812 1292 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1880.3812 (pause 0.65) 1881.0293 1293 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1881.0293 get out of just DC, so like she- 1883.2908 1294 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1883.2908 (pause 0.24) 1883.5333 1295 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1883.5333 Nothing wrong with her being in a group chat, but /they- have like-/ the DMV 1886.6260 1296 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1886.6260 (pause 0.37) 1886.9920 1297 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1886.9920 Linked-In group chat. 1888.1484 1298 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1888.1484 (pause 0.47) 1888.6147 1299 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1888.6147 I'm like, 1888.9271 1300 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1888.9271 (pause 0.24) 1889.1696 1301 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1889.1696 get to know all the other people too. 1891.1500 1302 DCB_int_01 1891.9055 Oh, are- the people from the school, they already in a group chat. 1894.6660 1303 DCB_int_01 1894.6660 (pause 0.23) 1894.8991 1304 DCB_int_01 1894.8991 [Oh because /they went up] this/- 1895.8970 1305 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1895.1369 [DMV] 1895.6778 1306 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1896.1150 [/They've met/] everybody from DC and Northern Virginia. 1898.3625 1307 DCB_int_01 1896.1989 [/Mm-hm/.] 1896.6186 1308 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1898.9081 So like she want to room with somebody from DC? No. Get to know other people. 1902.6850 1309 DCB_int_01 1902.8284 Right, like, 1903.5512 1310 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1903.9289 The [world's bigger than DC.] Yeah! 1906.7313 1311 DCB_int_01 1904.1573 [somebody from Iowa.] 1905.5469 1312 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1907.1509 So. 1907.5286 1313 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1907.5286 (pause 0.70) 1908.2316 1314 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1908.2316 /That's [what-]/ 1908.6372 1315 DCB_int_01 1908.4600 [But I] asked you the question about- I know we got off on /RD-NAME-2/ then, but 1911.5982 1316 DCB_int_01 1911.9153 that was a little crazy. [I thought] that was just 1913.7991 1317 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1912.9084 [Oh.] 1913.1929 1318 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1913.1929 (pause 0.55) 1913.7478 1319 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1913.7478 [ So crazy.] 1914.7771 1320 DCB_int_01 1914.1721 [ridiculous.] 1915.1688 1321 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1914.9916 Mm-hm. 1915.6304 1322 DCB_int_01 1915.6910 Um, but I asked you about that because I think about- 1918.2929 1323 DCB_int_01 1918.2929 (pause 2.38) 1920.6745 1324 DCB_int_01 1920.6745 like you said, people come to DC, 1922.2133 1325 DCB_int_01 1922.2133 (pause 0.21) 1922.4231 1326 DCB_int_01 1922.4231 and you show 'em the monuments. And there- There is no life outside of like that [six block radius.] 1927.4819 1327 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1926.1861 [Right. Yes.] 1927.8729 1328 DCB_int_01 1927.9848 And so what do you feel- How do you feel 1930.2463 1329 DCB_int_01 1930.2463 (pause 0.74) 1930.9877 1330 DCB_int_01 1930.9877 as a local, do you take advantage of the touristy stuff, and then do you try to give your touristy 1935.9621 1331 DCB_int_01 1935.9621 (pause 0.14) 1936.1031 1332 DCB_int_01 1936.1031 people- Do you feel like you try to give them a local experience, and what would the local experience be? 1940.6842 1333 DCB_int_01 1940.6842 (pause 0.31) 1940.9920 1334 DCB_int_01 1940.9920 Or the native [experience?] 1942.3349 1335 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1942.0551 [So it's] crazy because (laughing) 1944.0648 1336 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1944.7538 I've never been 1945.6957 1337 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1945.6957 (pause 0.18) 1945.8729 1338 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1945.8729 into the touristy stuff. Like, I probably never been- I've probably been outside the White House, but that was- 1950.4255 1339 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1950.4255 (pause 0.12) 1950.5484 1340 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1950.5484 in my most recent years. Um, don't go to the monument. Don't hang out at all the museums and stuff like that. No. 1956.0742 1341 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1956.0742 (pause 0.51) 1956.5859 1342 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1956.5859 Probably just on field trips. 1957.9522 1343 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1957.9522 (pause 0.52) 1958.4744 1344 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1958.4744 But 1959.2904 1345 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1959.2904 (pause 0.25) 1959.5376 1346 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1959.5376 um, 1960.2323 1347 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1960.2323 (pause 0.20) 1960.4328 1348 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1960.4328 when I wen- a- went away to school, 1962.1208 1349 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1962.1208 (pause 0.19) 1962.3073 1350 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1962.3073 and like, 1962.7072 1351 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1962.7072 (pause 0.16) 1962.8704 1352 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1962.8704 all of my friends was from like DC. My boyfriend was from 1966.1487 1353 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1966.1487 (pause 0.17) 1966.3163 1354 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1966.3163 Ohio. 1966.9513 1355 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1966.9513 (pause 0.07) 1967.0236 1356 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1967.0236 Some of my friends from DC, but all my sorority sisters from different places. 1969.5232 1357 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1969.5232 (pause 0.36) 1969.8869 1358 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1969.8869 So we would alternate like where we would go. 1971.7427 1359 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1971.7427 (pause 0.35) 1972.0971 1360 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1972.0971 So when I would bring them here, 1973.4773 1361 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1973.4773 (pause 0.66) 1974.1348 1362 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1974.1348 they got to know 1975.0476 1363 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1975.0476 (pause 0.13) 1975.1735 1364 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1975.1735 DC outside of the /monuminutes/, 1976.5304 1365 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1976.5304 (pause 0.32) 1976.8474 1366 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1976.8474 and they fell in love with it. So it became, oh, I'm going to DC spring break, or I'm going to DC 1981.0942 1367 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1981.0942 (pause 0.30) 1981.3926 1368 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1981.3926 for Christmas. I'm going to DC for Thanksgiving. 1983.2438 1369 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1983.2438 (pause 0.28) 1983.5236 1370 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1983.5236 And so, If they came here, 1985.2488 1371 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1985.2488 (pause 0.50) 1985.7466 1372 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1985.7466 th- 1985.8399 1373 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1985.8399 (pause 1.11) 1986.9543 1374 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1986.9543 Towards my freshman year it was 1988.3858 1375 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1988.3858 (pause 0.28) 1988.6656 1376 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1988.6656 going to the go go and stuff like that. 1990.5634 1377 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1990.5634 (pause 0.46) 1991.0204 1378 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1991.0204 So I took a few of them to the go go. I had to make sure they all had Mumbo sauce. 1995.0946 1379 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1995.0946 (pause 0.45) 1995.5469 1380 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 1995.5469 And then DC and Chicago had this thing. Like what's better Mumbo sauce or Mild sauce? I would like take my Mumbo sauce up to Ohio 2001.4163 1381 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2001.4163 (pause 0.54) 2001.9572 1382 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2001.9572 and stuff like that. But coming here was go go, 2004.0509 1383 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2004.0509 (pause 0.23) 2004.2840 1384 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2004.2840 Mumbo sauce. 2005.3740 1385 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2005.3740 (pause 0.33) 2005.7004 1386 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2005.7004 I let them get the experience of the train. 2007.7754 1387 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2007.7754 (pause 1.39) 2009.1649 1388 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2009.1649 /And those things/. 2010.0042 1389 DCB_int_01 2010.6419 So, 2011.3134 1390 DCB_int_01 2011.3134 (pause 0.58) 2011.8916 1391 DCB_int_01 2011.8916 do you feel like- 2013.4396 1392 DCB_int_01 2013.4396 (pause 1.11) 2014.5494 1393 DCB_int_01 2014.5494 do you feel like you too loc- Like, why haven't you done the monuments? 2017.9242 1394 DCB_int_01 2017.9242 (pause 1.12) 2019.0480 1395 DCB_int_01 2019.0480 And not to say- I mean, cause some- Like there are things in my hometown that I haven't done. 2022.9823 1396 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2022.9823 I mean I don't know. I'm not gonna say I'm not a history 2025.3692 1397 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2025.5499 person. That type of stuff 2026.6800 1398 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2026.6800 (pause 0.39) 2027.0716 1399 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2027.0716 [it- it is-] Mm-hm. Not at all. 2029.9428 1400 DCB_int_01 2027.5426 [It doesn't interest you.] 2028.6011 1401 DCB_int_01 2030.1527 Have you been to [MFA?] 2031.2624 1402 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2030.6563 [Would I do it] now? 2031.8680 1403 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2032.0162 I will, but if I do it now, I want to do it more like a- 2034.2362 1404 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2034.2362 (pause 0.18) 2034.4134 1405 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2034.4134 a romance /??/. Like, oh, let's go visit the monument, eat. [Let's-] 2038.1717 1406 DCB_int_01 2038.0225 [Okay] let me give you a date- 2039.0250 1407 DCB_int_01 2039.2395 dating tip. 2040.1255 1408 DCB_int_01 2040.1255 (pause 2.10) 2042.2226 1409 DCB_int_01 2042.2226 One of the most romantic and [beautiful things- And I kid you not], 2046.2187 1410 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2043.9059 [] 2046.4332 1411 DCB_int_01 2046.5766 absolutely beautiful. 2047.5045 1412 DCB_int_01 2047.5045 (pause 0.32) 2047.8216 1413 DCB_int_01 2047.8216 Because before I- 2048.6464 1414 DCB_int_01 2048.6464 (pause 0.14) 2048.7874 1415 DCB_int_01 2048.7874 like, 2049.0992 1416 DCB_int_01 2049.0992 (pause 0.91) 2050.0132 1417 DCB_int_01 2050.0132 was doing a re- I wanted to be a tour guide. 2051.5193 1418 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2051.5193 Uh-huh. 2051.9809 1419 DCB_int_01 2052.7958 One of the most beautiful 2054.4604 1420 DCB_int_01 2054.4604 (pause 0.43) 2054.8941 1421 DCB_int_01 2054.8941 and romantic things 2056.3870 1422 DCB_int_01 2056.3870 (pause 0.09) 2056.4738 1423 DCB_int_01 2056.4738 is 2057.1789 1424 DCB_int_01 2057.1789 (pause 0.19) 2057.3701 1425 DCB_int_01 2057.3701 moonlight- Doing a walking around the monuments at- 2059.7330 1426 DCB_int_01 2059.7330 (pause 0.22) 2059.9568 1427 DCB_int_01 2059.9568 at- 2060.2086 1428 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2060.3392 [Probably is. Mm-hm.] 2061.8080 1429 DCB_int_01 2060.6003 [moon light.] But then doing like, 2062.5634 1430 DCB_int_01 2062.7499 and right on the tidal basin, just [sitting out there and just] looking at the stars- It is absolutely- [I mean,] 2067.5655 1431 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2064.5346 [Oh, oh.] 2065.5698 1432 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2065.5698 (pause 1.66) 2067.2298 1433 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2067.2298 [] 2070.1581 1434 DCB_int_01 2067.8733 [when I tell you /RD-NAME-3/- No! And I'm serious] like, 2070.4379 1435 DCB_int_01 2071.2900 MLK you can't do at night because it has a different feel. Like you feel very like, 2075.3468 1436 DCB_int_01 2075.3468 (pause 0.42) 2075.7711 1437 DCB_int_01 2075.7711 reverence or you want to like, 2076.9869 1438 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2077.3553 [Mm-hm.] 2077.8869 1439 DCB_int_01 2077.3693 [reflect] and pray because it's just 2079.0853 1440 DCB_int_01 2079.5282 the way it's set up, it makes you just think like, 2082.1441 1441 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2081.0064 [ /Dang/. Okay.] 2081.9483 1442 DCB_int_01 2082.4134 get [my life right and look- look] at all he sacrificed, so that's a little different. And maybe not like, the Korean or the 2087.4447 1443 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2082.6186 [My life together. Okay.] 2083.9102 1444 DCB_int_01 2087.9623 [Vietnam] cause they like- That's war. 2089.7563 1445 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2088.2280 [/Nam/.] 2088.6710 1446 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2089.7796 Mm-hm. 2090.1853 1447 DCB_int_01 2090.4091 But if you go to like, the Washington or even the Lincoln- The way it's lit up. 2093.8224 1448 DCB_int_01 2093.8224 (pause 0.34) 2094.1628 1449 DCB_int_01 2094.1628 And just watch the reflecting pool. 2095.9615 1450 DCB_int_01 2095.9615 (pause 0.53) 2096.4931 1451 DCB_int_01 2096.4931 Um, FDR is actually my favorite. And the waterfall's there. 2099.2255 1452 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2099.2209 Uh-huh. 2099.6918 1453 DCB_int_01 2099.7524 Like, /RD-NAME-3/, I'm telling you. [I'm telling you! Like,] 2102.3672 1454 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2101.0989 [I'm'a try it. ] 2102.9360 1455 DCB_int_01 2103.0200 Date night 2103.7520 1456 DCB_int_01 2103.7520 (pause 0.21) 2103.9665 1457 DCB_int_01 2103.9665 went just [like to a] ten, 2105.1836 1458 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2104.3862 [Really?] 2104.8851 1459 DCB_int_01 2105.5100 and just do like a little picnic. 2107.2061 1460 DCB_int_01 2107.2061 (pause 0.35) 2107.5512 1461 DCB_int_01 2107.5512 Um, 2108.2273 1462 DCB_int_01 2108.2273 (pause 0.39) 2108.6143 1463 DCB_int_01 2108.6143 I don't know about wine cause I don't know if you can have like, open containers, but 2111.4633 1464 DCB_int_01 2111.4633 (pause 0.35) 2111.8084 1465 DCB_int_01 2111.8084 um- 2112.4519 1466 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2112.4227 Probably not. 2113.1502 1467 DCB_int_01 2113.1362 But do like wine and [cheese in your little] picnic basket. 2116.4188 1468 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2114.3299 [Mm-hm.] 2114.9594 1469 DCB_int_01 2116.6100 Girl I'm tell- I'm trying to tell you. 2118.5171 1470 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2118.5859 /But I feel like-/ Yeah, [so.] 2120.1853 1471 DCB_int_01 2119.9708 [Step] your game up. 2120.6656 1472 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2121.4956 That touristy stuff, it just [really-] 2123.5566 1473 DCB_int_01 2123.0250 [You just-] 2123.4540 1474 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2124.0695 But it's crazy because when I go out of town, on a vacation, I want to see the- 2126.9967 1475 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2126.9967 (pause 0.61) 2127.6075 1476 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2127.6075 [the touristy stuff.] 2129.1602 1477 DCB_int_01 2127.6075 [the touristy stuff.] 2128.5598 1478 DCB_int_01 2128.5598 (pause 0.44) 2128.9970 1479 DCB_int_01 2128.9970 And if you didn't live here, you would be- But you know what, we need to [take ad- we ne-] 2132.2506 1480 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2131.4019 [But I've also] notice that it's 2133.2485 1481 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2133.4350 way more to like,-then just the touristy stuff. So when you say like, letting 'em know there's stuff outside of that. Cause I think that sometimes 2139.1412 1482 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2139.1412 (pause 0.49) 2139.6308 1483 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2139.6308 people just see that so- 2141.1463 1484 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2141.1463 (pause 0.28) 2141.4214 1485 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2141.4214 What I'm referencing is to- when I went to Egypt- 2143.6771 1486 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2143.6771 (pause 0.48) 2144.1620 1487 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2144.1620 you know when you think of Africa, like, you think like, poverty, 2147.2815 1488 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2147.2815 (pause 1.31) 2148.5906 1489 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2148.5906 and when I went, 2149.4253 1490 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2149.4253 (pause 0.26) 2149.6864 1491 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2149.6864 it was just the complete 2150.8474 1492 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2150.8474 (pause 0.34) 2151.1878 1493 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2151.1878 opposite 2152.1204 1494 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2152.1204 (pause 0.35) 2152.4748 1495 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2152.4748 from- like they had McDonalds delivered on motorcycles. That's better than 2155.4812 1496 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2155.4812 (pause 0.54) 2156.0175 1497 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2156.0175 our McDonalds. But you don't see that stuff. You just see like, 2158.0365 1498 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2158.0365 (pause 0.29) 2158.3256 1499 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2158.3256 oh kids just gonna be begging you for stuff, and it wasn't like that at- like, 2161.4253 1500 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2161.4253 (pause 0.30) 2161.7284 1501 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2161.7284 for me. 2162.1527 1502 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2162.1527 (pause 0.35) 2162.5024 1503 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2162.5024 It was some parts, [but it's not all bad.] 2164.7406 1504 DCB_int_01 2163.6215 [Did you ride a camel?] 2164.7126 1505 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2165.0810 I did ride the camel. [Climbed] the pyramids. 2168.1620 1506 DCB_int_01 2166.5207 [/I love it/.] 2167.0723 1507 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2168.5164 Did the cruise down the Nile. 2170.2976 1508 DCB_int_01 2170.7825 I love it! When did you go to Egypt? 2172.8575 1509 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2172.9030 That was my sweet sixteen gift. 2174.4324 1510 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2174.4324 (pause 1.30) 2175.7351 1511 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2175.7351 [] 2180.8894 1512 DCB_int_01 2176.0085 [Oh yeah, you could see the little bougie-] 2177.7944 1513 DCB_int_01 2177.7944 (pause 2.41) 2180.2086 1514 DCB_int_01 2180.2086 [I'm not mad.] 2181.0573 1515 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2181.5003 Really- [] 2187.8919 1516 DCB_int_01 2182.4049 [I'm not- But you know- Because I- My graduation gift from my parents- My dad's from Ghana. So, that's where I went.] 2187.5609 1517 DCB_int_01 2188.5261 I was in Ghana for two w- Like, so [I understand that. I'm not mad.] 2191.5232 1518 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2190.2607 [So, I'm not gonna say] it like, it was just random sweet sixteen. But um, 2194.1857 1519 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2194.6940 /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 2195.4214 1520 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2195.4214 (pause 0.43) 2195.8550 1521 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2195.8550 because it was a great school- Not taking away fro- /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was a great school, so they had 2199.4303 1522 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2199.4303 (pause 0.29) 2199.7241 1523 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2199.7241 a program called Club Japan, where every year they would go to a different part 2202.8809 1524 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2202.8809 (pause 0.61) 2203.4859 1525 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2203.4859 [/of ??/.] 2203.9848 1526 DCB_int_01 2203.4952 [Mm-hm.] 2203.8542 1527 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2204.5677 And then Club Afrique, 2205.9269 1528 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2205.9269 (pause 0.14) 2206.0643 1529 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2206.0643 where they would go to a different part of Africa. 2207.4167 1530 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2207.4167 (pause 0.48) 2207.8923 1531 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2207.8923 When I decided to join Club Afrique, they was going to Egypt, and it was around my sixteenth 2212.0225 1532 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2212.0225 (pause 0.33) 2212.3536 1533 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2212.3536 birthday. So my granddad was like, that's going to be your sweet sixteen, like 2215.1828 1534 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2215.1828 (pause 0.63) 2215.8123 1535 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2215.8123 what better way can you do that? 2217.0666 1536 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2217.0666 (pause 1.28) 2218.3489 1537 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2218.3489 And so again, 2219.3001 1538 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2219.3001 (pause 0.67) 2219.9716 1539 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2219.9716 I don't want to say people hated me, but 2221.6071 1540 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2221.6071 (pause 1.00) 2222.6050 1541 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2222.6050 um, 2223.2671 1542 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2223.2671 (pause 0.29) 2223.5609 1543 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2223.5609 like people had to like, fundraise and stuff to go. Oh I'm sorry. 2226.9904 1544 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2226.9904 (pause 0.32) 2227.3085 1545 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2227.3085 people had to fundraise and stuff to go. 2229.8593 1546 DCB_int_01 2230.2929 And they was just like, let's write a check. 2231.7105 1547 DCB_int_01 2231.7105 (pause 1.24) 2232.9496 1548 DCB_int_01 2232.9496 So do you feel like your grandparents were rich? 2234.8335 1549 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2235.5982 To me that's what I felt like. And then it was just like, 2237.6685 1550 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2237.6685 (pause 0.22) 2237.8912 1551 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2237.8912 Oh you going to Egypt. You got to have the 2239.3040 1552 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2239.3040 (pause 0.16) 2239.4626 1553 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2239.4626 mo- the top of the line phone that's gonna work. 2241.7567 1554 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2241.7567 (pause 0.26) 2242.0132 1555 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2242.0132 And this happened when razors had just came out, and it was like, Oh we're gonna get you the pink razor. 2245.9593 1556 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2245.9593 (pause 0.42) 2246.3765 1557 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2246.3765 Cause I got to talk to you every day, 2247.6215 1558 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2247.6215 (pause 0.37) 2247.9899 1559 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2247.9899 every minute. And it became a thing to where everybody else didn't have a phone, so it was kind of like, they was paying me- 2251.9721 1560 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2251.9721 (pause 0.13) 2252.1059 1561 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2252.1059 to use my phone, like per minute. 2253.5049 1562 DCB_int_01 2253.9625 2254.7435 1563 DCB_int_01 2254.7435 (pause 0.14) 2254.8851 1564 DCB_int_01 2254.8851 Boy, you [became like, the nine eight]- the- 2256.4845 1565 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2255.2171 [] 2256.1101 1566 DCB_int_01 2256.8191 [the nine hundred number? /What- it just- it's/ so crazy.] So do you feel like you are still 2261.7664 1567 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2256.8611 [] 2259.7101 1568 DCB_int_01 2262.2560 like, rich? Do you feel like you- 2264.2786 1569 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2264.3299 No, I feel like things have changed, and it's weird because 2268.5451 1570 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2268.5451 (pause 0.69) 2269.2387 1571 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2269.2387 I feel like that's why- 2270.7775 1572 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2270.7775 (pause 0.21) 2270.9920 1573 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2270.9920 I think that plays a part in me not driving and things like that because growing up my grandfather used to always say, 2275.4766 1574 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2275.4766 (pause 0.55) 2276.0314 1575 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2276.0314 You'll never have to drive, ever in your life. Like you're gonna be chauffeured everywhere you go. 2279.7431 1576 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2279.7431 (pause 0.23) 2279.9716 1577 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2279.9716 Um, 2280.6757 1578 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2280.6757 (pause 0.45) 2281.1222 1579 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2281.1222 I'm'a take you to school tomorrow. Even high school, like, I couldn't get a job my senior year. Like, he just didn't want that. 2286.2840 1580 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2286.2840 (pause 0.35) 2286.6372 1581 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2286.6372 Like, your only job is 2288.4698 1582 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2288.4698 (pause 0.53) 2288.9967 1583 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2288.9967 education. So I feel like, 2290.2277 1584 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2290.2277 (pause 0.47) 2290.6986 1585 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2290.6986 once he passed away in two thousand and eight, 2292.7496 1586 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2292.7496 (pause 0.11) 2292.8581 1587 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2292.8581 it was just like, 2293.5651 1588 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2293.5651 (pause 0.83) 2294.3951 1589 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2294.3951 Daddy wasn't gonna be around forever. And I didn't think about that. 2297.0343 1590 DCB_int_01 2297.4820 [Mm.] 2297.9902 1591 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2297.8504 [And] so it became real life. 2299.6957 1592 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2300.8941 And so, my grandfather was definitely the bread winner, 2304.2514 1593 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2304.2514 (pause 0.20) 2304.4472 1594 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2304.4472 and so um, 2305.8216 1595 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2305.8216 (pause 0.73) 2306.5537 1596 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2306.5537 things changed. I was always getting everything I wanted. 2308.7919 1597 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2308.7919 (pause 0.40) 2309.1929 1598 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2309.1929 Even though my grandmother spoiled me, it wasn't like how my 2311.6537 1599 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2311.6537 (pause 0.33) 2311.9848 1600 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2311.9848 dad did. 2312.7589 1601 DCB_int_01 2312.9547 She spoiled in you different ways- He spoiled you because he had the financial means. [She-] 2316.6559 1602 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2316.3341 [No] /and love/, so like even [our-] 2318.5910 1603 DCB_int_01 2318.1387 [Right, but I'm] saying but hers- She does not necessarily have the means to back it up to do the- [the financial part.] 2323.1280 1604 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2321.9704 [Right, but she did.] She did, 2324.0594 1605 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2324.4977 but 2325.0480 1606 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2325.0480 (pause 0.52) 2325.5655 1607 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2325.5655 it was just more so him. 2326.6660 1608 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2326.6660 (pause 0.25) 2326.9131 1609 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2326.9131 But my grandma did too. 2327.9483 1610 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2327.9483 (pause 0.66) 2328.6093 1611 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2328.6093 It's just that now, 2329.7145 1612 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2329.7145 (pause 0.06) 2329.7724 1613 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2329.7724 it became like- 2330.8801 1614 DCB_int_01 2331.4583 Are you more [independent or you feel] like you're still financially dependent on- 2334.5265 1615 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2332.2650 [It's just-] 2332.6846 1616 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2336.4278 I'm more financially independent in a sense, but as far as like, living on my own? No. 2340.2001 1617 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2340.2001 (pause 0.27) 2340.4694 1618 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2340.4694 But I'm 2340.7258 1619 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2340.7258 (pause 0.21) 2340.9310 1620 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2340.9310 about to move out on my own [but like, my grandma- I still-] 2343.7474 1621 DCB_int_01 2342.4464 [So you still living at your childhood] house? [You still live in your-] 2345.1229 1622 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2344.1904 [No. I live] in- I live up the street now. So I live with my grandma but I don't pay like, 2348.5024 1623 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2349.3464 rent and stuff. I just started paying my phone bill, that type of stuff. So I'm getting 2352.9182 1624 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2352.9182 (pause 0.84) 2353.7563 1625 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2353.7563 settled financially. 2354.8428 1626 DCB_int_01 2355.3837 /RD-NAME-3/, you are not financially independent, boo. 2357.3747 1627 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2357.3887 I know. That's [/crazy. Um-/] 2358.8797 1628 DCB_int_01 2358.1616 [But that's okay.] 2359.0849 1629 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2359.2994 [] /Minnie?/ 2360.2086 1630 DCB_int_01 2359.3087 [Look, let me] find [somebody.] 2361.1226 1631 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2360.6796 [But that's what] I'm working towards, and so I'm tryna get it. Like, that was my- I said /for-, it's/ my twenty fifth birthday, that year 2365.6304 1632 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2365.9428 [it was going to be] for me to get my own place, get on my own. So I was like, okay. 2368.9970 1633 DCB_int_01 2366.0268 [/Mm-hm/.] 2366.3625 1634 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2369.5286 Get off your phone- I got off her phone bill. 2371.2900 1635 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2371.2900 (pause 0.99) 2372.2832 1636 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2372.2832 And you know that was a bit for me like, 2373.7287 1637 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2373.7287 (pause 0.27) 2373.9992 1638 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2373.9992 sheesh. This stuff ain't no joke. 2375.5819 1639 DCB_int_01 2375.6918 It's expensive. Cause your money come in, [and then it go out and you] be like, [Wait!] 2379.1552 1640 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2377.7750 [Yeah.] 2378.5210 1641 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2378.5210 (pause 0.31) 2378.8288 1642 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2378.8288 [But even] like, college, like I didn't have to work. Like, it was just call home. Send me money. 2383.1875 1643 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2384.5630 [/Unintelligible/] 2385.0619 1644 DCB_int_01 2384.8335 [Mm], I need the phone number you was calling. 2386.7779 1645 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2386.9178 I had two phones. 2388.4938 1646 DCB_int_01 2392.1064 Like two phone numbers? 2393.1183 1647 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2393.1183 Yep. 2393.3514 1648 DCB_int_01 2393.4214 For [what?] 2393.8550 1649 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2393.6359 [I had] a H- Ohio number and DC number. 2395.5885 1650 DCB_int_01 2396.3159 Oh okay. 2396.8335 1651 DCB_int_01 2396.8335 (pause 0.21) 2397.0386 1652 DCB_int_01 2397.0386 Cause just in case those in DC need to call you locally, they could 2399.7947 1653 DCB_int_01 2399.7947 (pause 0.10) 2399.8981 1654 DCB_int_01 2399.8981 ring you up. 2400.6934 1655 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2400.9730 [Mm-hm. And then- And then like- And then] the- It seemed like T Mobile had better service there, but I wasn't ready to let go of like, 2407.1688 1656 DCB_int_01 2401.3460 [And if your Ohio friends-] 2402.7915 1657 DCB_int_01 2407.5449 [] 2408.4885 1658 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2407.9708 [DC.] 2408.5537 1659 DCB_int_01 2408.5304 So you need to have your [two phones. I underst-] 2410.6380 1660 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2409.5236 [Yeah. /I needed 'em/.] 2410.6380 1661 DCB_int_01 2410.8851 You know what I'm not gonna be mad at that. I understand cause at- in one point in college, I did too. 2414.6889 1662 DCB_int_01 2414.6889 (pause 0.29) 2414.9780 1663 DCB_int_01 2414.9780 Because I was not sure if I wanted to switch to T Mobile. 2417.4447 1664 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2417.4820 [Mm-hm.] 2417.9669 1665 DCB_int_01 2417.7431 [So I] had my T Mobile number's like four four four something. And then I had my 2421.9526 1666 DCB_int_01 2422.2323 eight three four number 2423.4167 1667 DCB_int_01 2423.4167 (pause 0.18) 2423.5939 1668 DCB_int_01 2423.5939 cause I was like, well, maybe I don't want to go from A [T and T.] 2426.0594 1669 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2425.4346 [Uh-huh.] 2425.8822 1670 DCB_int_01 2426.4837 It was a whole big thing, [so I understand that sys- /??/.] 2428.6706 1671 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2427.1832 [That's- But sometimes I] feel like being in school you kind of get handed things. And I think some people think it's a good thing, but I think 2433.1365 1672 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2433.3137 it's like a bad thing too. 2434.8432 1673 DCB_int_01 2434.9038 Why? 2435.2535 1674 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2436.0928 Because like, I became so like, into thinking that everything was supposed to happen- happen [my way], and it even plays a role in my relationships. 2443.1047 1675 DCB_int_01 2439.8766 [Mm.] 2440.8383 1676 DCB_int_01 2443.8076 [Mm.] 2445.1785 1677 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2444.7868 [Like] you are really spoiled. Like you really think that everything /had to happen- You're like, that's/ not my way, it's just like- 2449.5560 1678 DCB_int_01 2450.6236 It's not gonna be anyway. 2451.5282 1679 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2451.5702 Anyway. 2452.0505 1680 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2452.0505 (pause 0.56) 2452.6147 1681 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2452.6147 And then so when I met my boyfriend in Ohio, he kind of like, shift things like, 2455.9755 1682 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2455.9755 (pause 0.47) 2456.4418 1683 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2456.4418 Well I might not can always be around. 2458.0344 1684 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2458.0344 (pause 0.15) 2458.1826 1685 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2458.1826 You gonna have to learn how to do this, and do that, do this, do- So, he kind of told me like, 2461.1500 1686 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2461.1500 (pause 0.28) 2461.4299 1687 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2461.4299 how to do this, how to do this. 2462.8381 1688 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2462.8381 (pause 0.69) 2463.5329 1689 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2463.5329 Cause he was 2464.2929 1690 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2464.2929 (pause 0.32) 2464.6100 1691 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2464.6100 independent. 2465.4447 1692 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2465.4447 (pause 0.76) 2466.2036 1693 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2466.2036 Like he had to go out and get everything on his own, work. 2469.2531 1694 DCB_int_01 2469.8500 I'm giving you a hard time, but I'm spoiled too. So I also had to [learn that lesson.] 2473.2781 1695 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2472.3808 [ It very- It really is.] 2475.6028 1696 DCB_int_01 2473.4952 [And it's a hard lesson! And-] 2476.1859 1697 DCB_int_01 2476.2979 um, 2476.8294 1698 DCB_int_01 2476.8294 (pause 0.05) 2476.8800 1699 DCB_int_01 2476.8800 my mom always wanted a girl, and then my brother- We're seven years apart. 2480.0781 1700 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2480.0827 Mm-hm. 2480.4464 1701 DCB_int_01 2480.7822 And- 2481.3883 1702 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2481.3930 You younger, he- 2482.2230 1703 DCB_int_01 2482.1950 I'm the [young- Uh-huh, I'm] the baby. 2483.5846 1704 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2482.7686 [Okay.] 2483.1602 1705 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2483.6312 Okay. 2484.0369 1706 DCB_int_01 2484.2514 And 2485.1885 1707 DCB_int_01 2485.1885 (pause 0.13) 2485.3186 1708 DCB_int_01 2485.3186 um, so, when we went to church- Had all the church ladies [were like], 2488.8898 1709 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2488.2556 [Uh-huh.] 2488.7033 1710 DCB_int_01 2489.2442 you know- 2489.7571 1711 DCB_int_01 2489.7571 (pause 0.46) 2490.2141 1712 DCB_int_01 2490.2141 They- 2490.5654 1713 DCB_int_01 2490.5654 (pause 0.08) 2490.6485 1714 DCB_int_01 2490.6485 Mimi, that's what they called me. Oh Mimi got to come sit with us, and so I had all the fluffy [dresses, and I had] really long pony tails, so this one lady- She was the church lady, she did my hair. 2499.7147 1715 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2495.2115 [Mm-hm.] 2495.7338 1716 DCB_int_01 2500.3069 Like, and so I was really really spoiled, and my brother didn't have all this cause my mom was just starting out [with him.] 2505.2858 1717 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2504.6516 [Uh-huh.] 2505.2438 1718 DCB_int_01 2505.5842 And she had just moved 2506.7686 1719 DCB_int_01 2506.7686 (pause 0.21) 2506.9737 1720 DCB_int_01 2506.9737 by herself, so I underst- It was very [hard for me] to get older 2510.5164 1721 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2509.0009 [Mm-mm.] 2509.6351 1722 DCB_int_01 2510.7635 and realize, look, everything [is not gonna be your way.] 2513.2255 1723 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2512.1391 [Not gonna be handed] to you. Mm-mm. 2514.3353 1724 DCB_int_01 2514.4321 And we weren't rich by any means, but my mom made a lot of sacrifices so I could [go to Africa and-] 2520.0555 1725 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2518.8618 [And it made people hate me.] Even- [/People/.] Cause I was- I don't feel like I was like- 2523.3790 1726 DCB_int_01 2520.5626 [Mm-hm.] 2521.0149 1727 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2523.6961 I'm always been like the compassionate type person, very people person, 2526.8611 1728 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2526.8611 (pause 0.34) 2527.1968 1729 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2527.1968 but because of how my grandfather treated me- I'm not gonna say people envied it, but they really just didn't like me. 2531.4540 1730 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2531.4540 (pause 0.45) 2531.9063 1731 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2531.9063 So like, if school lunch was like, 2534.2496 1732 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2534.2496 (pause 0.10) 2534.3545 1733 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2534.3545 nasty or if my grandpa didn't want me to eat the school lunch, he would come like, 2537.4540 1734 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2537.4540 (pause 0.46) 2537.9156 1735 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2537.9156 bring me like, 2538.3049 1736 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2538.3049 (pause 0.21) 2538.5182 1737 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2538.5182 Chinese [food. ] 2542.0350 1738 DCB_int_01 2539.3818 [That's what my mom would do! ] 2540.6827 1739 DCB_int_01 2542.2576 So then I had to start eating in the office. [Like I couldn't even eat in the cafeteria.] 2545.8388 1740 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2543.9689 [Yeah. Me too. Th- Me too.] That's how it was for [me too. ] 2547.5687 1741 DCB_int_01 2546.7853 [] 2547.3122 1742 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2547.8613 And so- And like, I would be the one that could leave out, go get my food from the truck. Like, it was- it- 2552.3563 1743 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2552.3563 (pause 0.22) 2552.5755 1744 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2552.5755 if people really hated it- And it's just so funny cause one guy 2555.3767 1745 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2555.3767 (pause 0.35) 2555.7311 1746 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2555.7311 outside of school had came up to me and was like, 2557.9507 1747 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2557.9507 (pause 0.47) 2558.4216 1748 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2558.4216 You know a girl mentioned to me that you get your food sent to- And I'm just like, why is a dead beat- And he went to a whole different school. 2562.0895 1749 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2562.0895 (pause 2.77) 2564.8599 1750 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2564.8599 (pause 0.35) 2565.2143 1751 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2565.2143 And another girl in my school was talking to me about him, 2567.3161 1752 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2567.3161 (pause 0.43) 2567.7451 1753 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2567.7451 and we wasn't even friends necessarily, and I'm just like, that's weird. Uh- it's not my fault. Like, 2571.9312 1754 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2571.9312 (pause 0.71) 2572.6447 1755 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2572.6447 heh- 2572.9431 1756 DCB_int_01 2573.5120 You wished you was- They was- They was watching you. 2575.5077 1757 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2575.4984 They was. 2576.9299 1758 DCB_int_01 2577.5454 So, okay. One thing that you keep talking about I want to go back to- Cause I was gonna ask later but this is a good- And then we got off on this- all this other stuff [/about being in school/], so- You know I'm scatterbrained /RD-NAME-3/. You got to- You know I got to come back. 2588.3004 1759 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2583.7074 [/??/ ] 2585.5446 1760 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2585.5446 (pause 1.04) 2586.5891 1761 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2586.5891 [Oh, it's fine. I-] it's just fine. 2588.8972 1762 DCB_int_01 2589.0138 Go go. 2589.5594 1763 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2590.1784 [Yes.] 2590.8079 1764 DCB_int_01 2590.6773 [Girl], are you- You've talked about like, 2592.5798 1765 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2592.6217 [Mm-hm.] 2593.3352 1766 DCB_int_01 2593.0694 [two or] three different times. Tell me, 2594.9905 1767 DCB_int_01 2595.4743 first of all, how did you get introduced to go go? 2597.6099 1768 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2599.4890 So you know go go, it stands from different age groups, so like I said, being that- my- my mom 2604.2580 1769 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2604.2580 (pause 0.33) 2604.5844 1770 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2604.5844 and her friends, cause they were all younger of course- 2607.3868 1771 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2607.3868 (pause 0.30) 2607.6841 1772 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2607.6841 they had their genre 2609.0177 1773 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2609.0177 (pause 0.41) 2609.4280 1774 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2609.4280 of go go, like the bands they listened to. Like Backyard, Red Essence, EU, 2613.7447 1775 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2613.7447 (pause 0.47) 2614.2157 1776 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2614.2157 Sugar Bears 2614.9990 1777 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2614.9990 (pause 0.32) 2615.3161 1778 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2615.3161 and stuff like that. 2616.1974 1779 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2616.1974 (pause 0.29) 2616.4912 1780 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2616.4912 So I was introduced 2617.2139 1781 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2617.2139 (pause 0.19) 2617.4051 1782 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2617.4051 to it at that point, 2618.8972 1783 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2618.8972 (pause 0.28) 2619.1770 1784 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2619.1770 and then once I started going to it became like fast paced and 2622.4679 1785 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2622.4679 (pause 0.40) 2622.8689 1786 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2622.8689 not as slow as theirs was. And so, 2625.0091 1787 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2625.0091 (pause 0.37) 2625.3775 1788 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2625.3775 just being in school- So like in school, people started go go bands. Like, it was a go go band in /RD-SCHOOL-3/, and then it became to like, oh, come see us 2632.1889 1789 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2632.1889 (pause 0.53) 2632.7193 1790 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2632.7193 at this place. Come see us at that place. 2634.3746 1791 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2634.3746 (pause 0.21) 2634.5844 1792 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2634.5844 Okay. 2635.0740 1793 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2635.0740 (pause 0.12) 2635.1906 1794 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2635.1906 And then it became to me being interested in all the other bands, so I was like, 2638.2623 1795 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2638.2623 (pause 0.58) 2638.8405 1796 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2638.8405 /at the/ [go go.] 2639.3861 1797 DCB_int_01 2639.0783 [How do you start] a go go band? Like just any kind of like- 2641.4844 1798 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2641.4797 Mm-hm. 2641.9320 1799 DCB_int_01 2642.0766 You [just get some] people to [sing, play the congos.] 2644.4593 1800 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2642.1791 [Like-] 2642.5755 1801 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2642.5755 (pause 0.39) 2642.9625 1802 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2642.9625 [Yep. Sing. Yep.] 2644.4733 1803 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2644.6633 Mm-hm. Come up with a name. 2646.1181 1804 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2646.1181 (pause 0.49) 2646.6124 1805 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2646.6124 Mm-hm. 2646.9621 1806 DCB_int_01 2647.0973 What's your favorite band? 2647.9833 1807 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2648.3423 TCB. 2649.0278 1808 DCB_int_01 2649.5314 TCB. 2650.0956 1809 DCB_int_01 2650.0956 (pause 0.26) 2650.3556 1810 DCB_int_01 2650.3556 Why? 2650.6400 1811 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2651.9176 Cause they older, but they got that 2654.0113 1812 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2654.0113 (pause 0.41) 2654.4170 1813 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2654.4170 young feel. They [just-] 2655.9231 1814 DCB_int_01 2655.5360 [Have you ever] seen them [perform?] 2656.7939 1815 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2656.6633 [Mm-hm.] 2657.0317 1816 DCB_int_01 2657.1902 So tell me about the first time you went to- 2659.2979 1817 DCB_int_01 2659.2979 (pause 0.74) 2660.0393 1818 DCB_int_01 2660.0393 the first time you went to the go go. 2661.6153 1819 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2662.4395 It was weird because I don't like being hot. 2664.7989 1820 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2664.7989 (pause 0.39) 2665.1906 1821 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2665.1906 I really hate being hot, and I didn't think about no place could be so packed. 2668.6540 1822 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2668.6540 (pause 0.48) 2669.1389 1823 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2669.1389 And you're like, 2670.1834 1824 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2670.1834 (pause 0.51) 2670.6963 1825 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2670.6963 so close to each other. I'm talking about like, 2672.3470 1826 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2672.3470 (pause 0.39) 2672.7340 1827 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2672.7340 you really don't want to dress dress up because people gonna step on your shoes. You have to be ready for that. 2676.8502 1828 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2676.8502 (pause 0.80) 2677.6522 1829 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2677.6522 But for me it was just being packed- But it was so fun. Like, I'm dancing but then on- once you leave, you're like drenched. Like, 2683.4657 1830 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2683.4657 (pause 0.60) 2684.0672 1831 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2684.0672 but it was amazing. I- What I did- What I di- di- didn't like about the go gos back then was like, of course the neighborhood stuff. So once the go go bands started calling all the neighborhoods, 2690.6781 1832 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2690.6781 (pause 0.35) 2691.0231 1833 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2691.0231 they like rowdy. Like, they jumping up jumping up jumping up. Like, 2694.0622 1834 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2694.0622 (pause 0.55) 2694.6171 1835 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2694.6171 I didn't like that part of it, but 2696.0766 1836 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2696.0766 (pause 0.39) 2696.4636 1837 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2696.4636 the music in itself. 2697.5174 1838 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2697.5174 (pause 0.77) 2698.2903 1839 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2698.2903 [Uh-huh.] 2698.6260 1840 DCB_int_01 2698.3369 [So when] you talk about- 2699.4047 1841 DCB_int_01 2700.9808 when you- where were you for your first g- where- where were you 2703.7960 1842 DCB_int_01 2703.7960 (pause 0.22) 2704.0152 1843 DCB_int_01 2704.0152 that was so hot, packed. I mean, and that's generally- Cause [/I've been/] 2706.9481 1844 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2706.4958 [That's when I] was going to the um, DC Tunnel. 2709.1350 1845 DCB_int_01 2710.5887 Where is that? 2711.0457 1846 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2711.3394 Off of uh, think- I want to say Queens Chapel Road. You know where Stadium is? 2714.9672 1847 DCB_int_01 2715.4848 Mm-hm. 2716.0583 1848 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2716.1457 It's over- It's over there. It was [in the back, like a little white house.] 2718.8572 1849 DCB_int_01 2717.0876 [/Oh, I go to the little bank/ over there.] 2718.8549 1850 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2718.9440 Mm-hm. 2719.6196 1851 DCB_int_01 2720.4123 Um, that's the only reason I know where that is is because I go to the Credit Un- 2723.7964 1852 DCB_int_01 2723.7964 (pause 0.25) 2724.0482 1853 DCB_int_01 2724.0482 /?/- 2724.2674 1854 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2724.2347 And then I was doing the Le Pearl, the Mad Chef. That's a 2727.4055 1855 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2727.6340 largo. 2728.3241 1856 DCB_int_01 2729.6985 I've heard of 2731.1300 1857 DCB_int_01 2731.1300 (pause 0.77) 2731.9040 1858 DCB_int_01 2731.9040 Mad Chef. 2732.9205 1859 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2733.1957 Mm-hm. 2733.9883 1860 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2733.9883 (pause 0.53) 2734.5188 1861 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2734.5188 Then the Market Lounge off of Florida Avenue. 2736.9155 1862 DCB_int_01 2738.5895 Do you still go to go gos now? 2739.7272 1863 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2741.2089 Uh, I went to one this year. Yeah. 2743.6429 1864 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2743.6429 (pause 0.41) 2744.0486 1865 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2744.0486 But it's different now, and I'm not into the club scene no more. 2746.6400 1866 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2746.6400 (pause 0.25) 2746.8918 1867 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2746.8918 But I had my moments when I wanted let my hair down and I called it like, be ratchet. 2750.7294 1868 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2750.7294 (pause 0.21) 2750.9392 1869 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2750.9392 And so like- 2751.6992 1870 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2751.6992 (pause 0.49) 2752.1877 1871 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2752.1877 [] 2753.8524 1872 DCB_int_01 2752.2483 [When was your last be ratchet moment?] 2753.9316 1873 DCB_int_01 2754.3559 Why is that fun- [No that's] a- like a [legit question.] 2756.7061 1874 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2754.8595 [Uh-] 2755.2186 1875 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2755.2186 (pause 0.60) 2755.8201 1876 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2755.8201 [Oh,] 2756.6781 1877 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2756.8599 probably- 2757.9524 1878 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2757.9524 (pause 0.13) 2758.0868 1879 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2758.0868 When did we go? I want to say Feb- 2759.8477 1880 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2759.8477 (pause 0.31) 2760.1601 1881 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2760.1601 no March. 2761.5170 1882 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2761.5170 (pause 0.64) 2762.1558 1883 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2762.1558 Me and one of my close friends went. 2763.5873 1884 DCB_int_01 2765.0830 So who are you- Who is in your circle in- Like, I know you said you met your best friend in- 2769.4754 1885 DCB_int_01 2769.4754 (pause 0.55) 2770.0303 1886 DCB_int_01 2770.0303 What was it? Elementary or middle school? 2771.5633 1887 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2771.5399 I met her in middle school. Mm-hm. 2772.9575 1888 DCB_int_01 2773.4937 And so who do you hang out with? 2774.8786 1889 DCB_int_01 2774.8786 (pause 0.16) 2775.0371 1890 DCB_int_01 2775.0371 Are you still close- Like your 2776.2168 1891 DCB_int_01 2776.2168 (pause 0.36) 2776.5794 1892 DCB_int_01 2776.5794 school [friends?] 2777.3628 1893 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2776.9198 [My circle] of friends it's the Fab Five. 2780.2817 1894 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2781.8764 Um, it's five friends. 2783.6612 1895 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2783.6612 (pause 0.14) 2783.8057 1896 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2783.8057 I told you one passed away, 2785.3631 1897 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2785.3631 (pause 0.22) 2785.5870 1898 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2785.5870 so it was four of us now, but that's who- 2787.3169 1899 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2787.3169 (pause 0.49) 2787.8065 1900 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2787.8065 that's my circle. 2788.5839 1901 DCB_int_01 2788.6120 And how'd you- But how'd y'all meet? Was it- It wasn't college. It was- This was all before you went to college. 2792.8972 1902 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2793.6806 S- kind of sort of. So I'm the link, so- Well I'm not- I'm not the link, and I wasn't the link. 2797.4937 1903 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2797.4937 (pause 0.36) 2797.8527 1904 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2797.8527 I'm the one that pull everybody 2799.3589 1905 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2799.3589 (pause 0.16) 2799.5174 1906 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2799.5174 together so to speak. So it was me and my best friend /RD-NAME-2/. 2802.2394 1907 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2802.2394 (pause 0.47) 2802.7057 1908 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2802.7057 We've known each other since seventh grade. 2804.0859 1909 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2804.0859 (pause 0.65) 2804.7387 1910 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2804.7387 And then, 2805.9650 1911 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2805.9650 (pause 0.39) 2806.3556 1912 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2806.3556 it's not funny but 2807.2229 1913 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2807.2229 (pause 0.51) 2807.7311 1914 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2807.7311 I was- 2808.2021 1915 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2808.2021 (pause 0.15) 2808.3559 1916 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2808.3559 Towards my ninth grade year I became a part of a group called Keep it Tight 2811.4008 1917 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2811.4008 (pause 0.18) 2811.5769 1918 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2811.5769 in church which is not to have sex [until] your married, 2814.3280 1919 DCB_int_01 2813.4607 [Mm-hm.] 2813.7404 1920 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2814.6824 which is how I met my friend Jelly. 2816.3703 1921 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2816.3703 (pause 1.69) 2818.0618 1922 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2818.0618 [/Okay/.] 2818.4535 1923 DCB_int_01 2818.1271 [/RD-NAME-2/?] 2818.5188 1924 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2818.6960 Yes, her real name is /RD-NAME-3/. We call her /RD-NAME-2/. 2820.5704 1925 DCB_int_01 2820.8036 Oh. 2821.0507 1926 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2821.2139 And so, 2822.1698 1927 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2822.1698 (pause 0.23) 2822.3983 1928 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2822.3983 I met /RD-NAME-2/ ninth grade. 2823.7645 1929 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2823.7645 (pause 0.79) 2824.5514 1930 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2824.5514 /RD-NAME-2/, 2825.3115 1931 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2825.3115 (pause 0.32) 2825.6332 1932 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2825.6332 the one that passed away is who I've known since pre K. 2827.8341 1933 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2827.8341 (pause 0.95) 2828.7807 1934 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2828.7807 And then we just met /RD-NAME-2/, I want to say three years ago through my best friend /RD-NAME-2/. 2833.5543 1935 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2833.5543 (pause 0.38) 2833.9367 1936 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2833.9367 And so m- It was 2835.2843 1937 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2835.2843 (pause 0.50) 2835.7832 1938 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2835.7832 And/RD-NAME-2/ birthday- I started a mentoring program, so these are people that wanted to be mentors- 2839.1533 1939 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2839.1533 (pause 0.46) 2839.6149 1940 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2839.6149 So I introduced them to each other, even though I had other mentors that had applied we all went to dinner together. 2844.2907 1941 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2844.2907 (pause 0.12) 2844.4119 1942 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2844.4119 And then that's how we formed the Fab Five. 2846.6035 1943 DCB_int_01 2847.5396 And how long have y'all been like, the [Fab] Five? 2849.8477 1944 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2849.1436 [Ba-] 2849.3767 1945 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2849.9969 For three years. 2851.0973 1946 DCB_int_01 2851.2372 For three years. Now who's the one that died? 2852.8226 1947 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2853.0558 /RD-NAME-2/. [The one I've known since pre K.] 2854.6400 1948 DCB_int_01 2853.5116 [/That's the one in the-/] 2854.5514 1949 DCB_int_01 2854.8032 in the car accident. 2856.0389 1950 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2856.0109 Yes. 2856.4492 1951 DCB_int_01 2856.5471 Can you tell me about that? 2857.4704 1952 DCB_int_01 2857.4704 (pause 0.46) 2857.9320 1953 DCB_int_01 2857.9320 Like, 2858.2724 1954 DCB_int_01 2858.2724 (pause 0.68) 2858.9485 1955 DCB_int_01 2858.9485 I know you showed me the vid- And I- If it's too 2861.0876 1956 DCB_int_01 2861.0876 (pause 0.31) 2861.3954 1957 DCB_int_01 2861.3954 traumatic then you don't have to. But I just remember- 2863.7828 1958 DCB_int_01 2863.7828 (pause 1.18) 2864.9578 1959 DCB_int_01 2864.9578 I remember us talking like bits and pieces [about it.] 2867.6285 1960 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2867.0177 [Mm-hm.] 2867.6472 1961 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2869.9180 Talk about it in what sense? Like our friendship? How it happened? How it [affected] me? 2873.4001 1962 DCB_int_01 2872.7846 [Mm-hm.] 2873.1203 1963 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2873.6332 All that type of stuff. 2874.3186 1964 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2874.3186 (pause 0.66) 2874.9808 1965 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2874.9808 So me and Brittany met each other in pre-K. 2876.8167 1966 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2876.8167 (pause 0.08) 2876.8958 1967 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2876.8958 My grandfather- I guess /??/ his occupation. My grandfather was a DC fire fighter. 2880.9341 1968 DCB_int_01 2881.5403 [Hm.] 2881.6895 1969 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2881.5497 [Once] he retired he became a fire inspector. 2883.5722 1970 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2884.3089 And so, /RD-NAME-2/ grandma worked on the fire department. And so, once they knew that their grandkids was going to the same school. /So it was all,/ y'all have to go see each other! 2892.2534 1971 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2892.2534 (pause 0.40) 2892.6544 1972 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2892.6544 And so me and /RD-NAME-2/ began- 2894.1652 1973 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2894.1652 (pause 0.20) 2894.3610 1974 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2894.3610 Our every Friday ritual was to go to McDonald's and get a fish sandwich. This was every Friday. 2898.7383 1975 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2898.7383 (pause 0.15) 2898.8875 1976 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2898.8875 And she would spend the night 2899.7362 1977 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2899.7362 (pause 0.47) 2900.2071 1978 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2900.2071 over my house. And our communication 2902.3987 1979 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2902.3987 (pause 0.32) 2902.7193 1980 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2902.7193 went all the way up 2903.6472 1981 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2903.6472 (pause 0.58) 2904.2301 1982 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2904.2301 until high school 2905.1766 1983 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2905.1766 (pause 0.35) 2905.5263 1984 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2905.5263 cause we went to the /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 2907.0231 1985 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2907.0231 (pause 0.39) 2907.4101 1986 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2907.4101 I went to a different high school than she did 2909.6239 1987 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2909.6239 (pause 0.51) 2910.1368 1988 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2910.1368 but then college, we kind of 2911.7921 1989 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2911.7921 (pause 0.39) 2912.1838 1990 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2912.1838 came back in contact. 2913.9173 1991 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2913.9173 (pause 0.17) 2914.0851 1992 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2914.0851 And then she /joined my ??/ program, 2915.5848 1993 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2915.5848 (pause 0.06) 2915.6446 1994 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2915.6446 after I had graduated. 2916.7943 1995 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2916.7943 (pause 0.55) 2917.3445 1996 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2917.3445 And so, um 2918.8133 1997 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2918.8133 (pause 0.82) 2919.6340 1998 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2919.6340 when the Fab Five started it became a every weekend thing. Like, we had to do something every weekend. We was going out of town. 2924.7014 1999 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2924.7014 (pause 0.38) 2925.0837 2000 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2925.0837 We was big on birthdays. We do it real big for each other's birthday. 2928.6544 2001 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2928.6544 (pause 0.30) 2928.9575 2002 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2928.9575 And so um, 2930.0579 2003 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2930.0579 (pause 0.75) 2930.8086 2004 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2930.8086 2931.0418 2005 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2931.0418 (pause 0.75) 2931.7925 2006 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2931.7925 in December of two thousand and thirteen, 2934.6637 2007 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2934.6637 (pause 1.46) 2936.1232 2008 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2936.1232 let me rewind. 2937.1397 2009 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2937.1397 (pause 0.33) 2937.4708 2010 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2937.4708 Um, 2938.0991 2011 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2938.0991 (pause 0.18) 2938.2810 2012 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2938.2810 we all supposed to go on a cruise for Drea's twenty fifth birthday. 2941.0461 2013 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2941.0461 (pause 0.48) 2941.5217 2014 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2941.5217 And Brittany had paid her money. We had all paid our money. 2943.7319 2015 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2943.7319 (pause 0.24) 2943.9685 2016 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2943.9685 And then randomly, Brittany was like, 2945.9456 2017 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2945.9456 (pause 0.66) 2946.6077 2018 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2946.6077 I'm not gonna be able to go. 2947.7641 2019 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2947.7641 (pause 0.41) 2948.1745 2020 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2948.1745 She was like, um, 2949.3499 2021 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2949.3499 (pause 0.09) 2949.4446 2022 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2949.4446 I got something to do 2950.4488 2023 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2950.4488 (pause 1.41) 2951.8570 2024 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2951.8570 in December. 2952.6917 2025 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2952.6917 (pause 0.17) 2952.8595 2026 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2952.8595 /???/ of what she had to do. 2954.3657 2027 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2954.3657 (pause 0.40) 2954.7676 2028 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2954.7676 Uh, she was just like, I know I'm'a have something to do. 2957.2555 2029 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2957.2555 (pause 0.47) 2957.7218 2030 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2957.7218 So I have to pull out. 2958.7197 2031 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2958.7197 (pause 0.24) 2958.9575 2032 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2958.9575 So- But we never paid no attention to it. We were just like, 2961.1304 2033 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2961.1304 (pause 0.78) 2961.9126 2034 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2961.9126 Okay. 2962.3369 2035 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2962.3369 (pause 1.06) 2963.4001 2036 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2963.4001 So, December seventh, when we got the phone call- When we got the phone call, to came to us as if 2969.0737 2037 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2969.0737 (pause 0.14) 2969.2089 2038 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2969.2089 her sister had passed away. 2971.1999 2039 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2971.1999 (pause 1.28) 2972.4822 2040 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2972.4822 And so 2973.3169 2041 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2973.3169 (pause 0.45) 2973.7692 2042 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2973.7692 um, 2974.3416 2043 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2974.3416 (pause 0.30) 2974.6400 2044 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2974.6400 I called the Fab, 2975.8430 2045 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2975.8430 (pause 0.22) 2976.0622 2046 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2976.0622 and I'm like, y'all we need to go check on Brittany. 2977.7548 2047 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2977.7548 (pause 0.21) 2977.9646 2048 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2977.9646 I heard that her sister passed away, and we just need to go and be there for her. 2981.2182 2049 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2981.2182 (pause 1.57) 2982.7896 2050 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2982.7896 We get to Brittany house, and um, 2985.6992 2051 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2985.6992 (pause 0.36) 2986.0571 2052 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2986.0571 her brother like, 2986.7939 2053 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2986.7939 (pause 0.21) 2987.0037 2054 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2987.0037 Y'all here to see Brittany? 2987.9456 2055 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2987.9456 (pause 0.14) 2988.0855 2056 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2988.0855 We like, yeah. 2988.8362 2057 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2988.8362 (pause 0.54) 2989.3771 2058 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2989.3771 No! On our way to- Somebody had called us back, and was like, well you know it was both of 'em. 2992.7379 2059 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2992.7379 (pause 0.89) 2993.6285 2060 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2993.6285 So at this point, like, our minds just all over the place. So then when we get to her house, her brother like, well did you want to see Brittany? Y'all here to see Brittany? 2999.3628 2061 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2999.3628 (pause 0.37) 2999.7358 2062 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 2999.7358 So at this time, we feel relief- Still sad that her sister passed, but we feel relief cause he like, y'all want to see Brittany? Okay, go upstairs. So we like, 3004.9757 2063 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3004.9757 (pause 0.20) 3005.1762 2064 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3005.1762 Thank God. Dodged that bullet. 3006.9715 2065 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3006.9715 (pause 0.45) 3007.4191 2066 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3007.4191 We get upstairs, 3008.5895 2067 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3008.5895 (pause 0.98) 3009.5687 2068 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3009.5687 and her grandmother come to the door, 3011.1296 2069 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3011.1296 (pause 0.29) 3011.4187 2070 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3011.4187 and she was like, hey y'all. We like, hey, Miss /RD-NAME-1/. 3013.7968 2071 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3013.7968 (pause 1.03) 3014.8273 2072 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3014.8273 And she's like, Brittany not here. So we like, okay, maybe she at the hospital 3018.3612 2073 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3018.3612 (pause 0.56) 3018.9202 2074 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3018.9202 for /RD-NAME-2/. 3019.6103 2075 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3019.6103 (pause 0.41) 3020.0206 2076 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3020.0206 And so she looked 3020.9672 2077 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3020.9672 (pause 0.27) 3021.2376 2078 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3021.2376 different. 3021.9744 2079 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3021.9744 (pause 0.64) 3022.6120 2080 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3022.6120 And so, 3023.6519 2081 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3023.6519 (pause 0.31) 3023.9643 2082 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3023.9643 we c- Jelly was just like, Miss /RD-NAME-1/ are you sure? Cause we heard some things. 3028.1842 2083 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3028.1842 (pause 0.61) 3028.7892 2084 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3028.7892 And so she called us into her living room, 3030.8147 2085 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3030.8147 (pause 0.06) 3030.8745 2086 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3030.8745 and she told us that it was actually Brittany that had passed instead of the sister. 3034.6307 2087 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3034.6307 (pause 1.76) 3036.3933 2088 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3036.3933 I immediately 3037.4564 2089 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3037.4564 (pause 0.40) 3037.8574 2090 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3037.8574 left the house. 3039.5267 2091 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3039.5267 (pause 0.81) 3040.3323 2092 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3040.3323 Um, 3040.9291 2093 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3040.9291 (pause 0.26) 3041.1902 2094 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3041.1902 call my grandma and my mom. They had got there 3043.4704 2095 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3043.4704 (pause 0.16) 3043.6336 2096 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3043.6336 in probably less than ten minutes. 3045.1257 2097 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3045.1257 (pause 0.49) 3045.6153 2098 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3045.6153 And so we were all very 3047.1156 2099 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3047.1156 (pause 0.43) 3047.5446 2100 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3047.5446 over r- hysterical. And my grandmother didn't know what to do. She said, but I know somebody that can. She took us to church. 3053.2275 2101 DCB_int_01 3053.5633 Hm. 3053.8430 2102 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3054.2627 I'm talking about like, we in pajamas. Like, 3056.3983 2103 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3056.3983 (pause 0.15) 3056.5475 2104 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3056.5475 but she didn't know what else to do with us, so they prayed over us in church. And it's funny, that's how I Ms. /RD-NAME-1/ 3060.4632 2105 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3060.4632 (pause 0.61) 3061.0694 2106 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3061.0694 Weird. 3061.4890 2107 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3061.4890 (pause 0.86) 3062.3517 2108 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3062.3517 And it wasn't i- 3062.7946 2109 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3062.7946 (pause 0.50) 3063.2936 2110 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3063.2936 /When I realized I hadn't knew her/ til I came here, she's like, 3065.1902 2111 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3065.1902 (pause 0.18) 3065.3721 2112 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3065.3721 You were the group that came to the church and we prayed over. 3067.8761 2113 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3067.8761 (pause 1.23) 3069.1071 2114 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3069.1071 /Like that/. 3069.8671 2115 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3069.8671 (pause 1.12) 3070.9897 2116 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3070.9897 And so um, 3072.3886 2117 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3072.3886 (pause 0.66) 3073.0461 2118 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3073.0461 it really took a toll on us because /RD-NAME-2/ was a part of our everyday routine. Group chat, hanging out, 3078.1088 2119 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3078.1088 (pause 0.42) 3078.5285 2120 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3078.5285 and so it was hard. 3079.7408 2121 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3079.7408 (pause 0.62) 3080.3563 2122 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3080.3563 And so, 3081.0968 2123 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3081.0968 (pause 0.13) 3081.2314 2124 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3081.2314 once the cruise- So we said, maybe /RD-NAME-2/ kind of knew. 3083.9316 2125 DCB_int_01 3084.4958 Something was gonna happen (whispered). 3085.5123 2126 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3085.5077 Something was gonna happen because the week before she passed, 3088.4208 2127 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3088.7379 she made individual dates with all of us. 3090.7943 2128 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3090.7943 (pause 0.72) 3091.5170 2129 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3091.5170 And those dates was like, how much she loved us, how much she cared about us. Like, 3095.3441 2130 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3095.3441 (pause 0.38) 3095.7218 2131 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3095.7218 just that one on one that she wanted with each 3097.8574 2132 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3097.8574 (pause 0.55) 3098.4123 2133 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3098.4123 member 3098.9471 2134 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3098.9471 (pause 0.10) 3099.0468 2135 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3099.0468 of the Fab. 3099.8998 2136 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3099.8998 (pause 0.90) 3100.7985 2137 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3100.7985 And it was the weirdest thing ever. And then that weekend 3103.2979 2138 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3103.2979 (pause 0.14) 3103.4424 2139 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3103.4424 before, we had like a big pow wow sleepover. Like, getting our feelings out with stuff we wanted to do, or stuff like that. 3108.6264 2140 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3108.6264 (pause 0.48) 3109.1020 2141 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3109.1020 And she was kind of like- I'm not gonna say she was reserved, but she was like, 3111.6806 2142 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3111.6806 (pause 0.32) 3112.0012 2143 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3112.0012 had like a calm 3113.4234 2144 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3113.4234 (pause 0.98) 3114.4026 2145 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3114.4026 space, and we was like, 3115.6382 2146 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3115.6382 (pause 0.52) 3116.1558 2147 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3116.1558 wow. And then our last conversation with /RD-NAME-2/ was about cops, like, 3119.6425 2148 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3119.6425 (pause 1.04) 3120.6777 2149 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3120.6777 sh- how she liked people in uniform, but it had to be a PG cop. 3123.8578 2150 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3123.8578 (pause 0.54) 3124.4022 2151 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3124.4022 And so when she died, I'm just like- She was in PG, cops, all these things. I'm like, Brittany kind of- 3129.9324 2152 DCB_int_01 3126.1974 [/It was all these things/.] 3127.5730 2153 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3130.3835 I feel like she knew 3131.5120 2154 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3131.5120 (pause 0.93) 3132.4445 2155 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3132.4445 what was going on. But even still, it plays 3135.4521 2156 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3135.4521 (pause 0.32) 3135.7727 2157 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3135.7727 a big part in our lives. And I think I was- I was in a good space until Thursday, 3139.7781 2158 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3139.7781 (pause 0.60) 3140.3796 2159 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3140.3796 until the trial when I was asked to speak. 3142.0909 2160 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3142.0909 (pause 0.34) 3142.4302 2161 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3142.4302 I feel like I was really at a good space in my life, 3144.9108 2162 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3144.9108 (pause 0.63) 3145.5450 2163 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3145.5450 and I feel like, 3146.0859 2164 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3146.0859 (pause 0.15) 3146.2398 2165 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3146.2398 reopening that, has put me at a set back in a sense that, I didn't want to see how she died. 3151.6569 2166 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3151.6569 (pause 0.62) 3152.2817 2167 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3152.2817 And so the fact that video has to keep like, 3153.9941 2168 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3153.9941 (pause 0.32) 3154.3132 2169 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3154.3132 replaying, 3155.0550 2170 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3155.0550 (pause 0.53) 3155.5866 2171 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3155.5866 and I really had to see a psychiatrist on Wednesday. 3157.9273 2172 DCB_int_01 3159.4101 And it doesn't help that you have it on your phone. 3161.1110 2173 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3161.7498 I don't. It's on the news. 3163.8807 2174 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3163.8807 (pause 0.33) 3164.2118 2175 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3164.2118 It's not in my phone. I [didn't save it to my] phone. It's like, on a website 3167.6395 2176 DCB_int_01 3165.3267 [Oh okay.] 3166.0262 2177 DCB_int_01 3167.8027 Oh, [okay.] 3168.6234 2178 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3168.1664 [of the news.] Yeah I don't look at it. [Like even] if I show people like, I won't look at it. 3171.8723 2179 DCB_int_01 3169.8439 [Okay.] 3170.3289 2180 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3172.0308 But- 3172.5437 2181 DCB_int_01 3173.2152 Cause it was horrific. [/inaudible/] 3175.2389 2182 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3174.1524 [It was horrific.] 3175.2389 2183 DCB_int_01 3175.4674 But you know what, /RD-NAME-3/, I think- I commend you because, you know 3179.0380 2184 DCB_int_01 3179.0380 (pause 0.58) 3179.6209 2185 DCB_int_01 3179.6209 mental health is so important. And it's a community- [Especially black] people 3183.1122 2186 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3181.7845 [Mm-hm.] 3182.4139 2187 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3183.1822 [Mm-hm.] 3183.7790 2188 DCB_int_01 3183.4060 [We don't]- 3184.0075 2189 DCB_int_01 3184.5810 We don't take enough care in that. It's very stigmatized, [and I commend] you. Like, if you realize you have an issue- 3190.5018 2190 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3187.8964 [Mm-hm.] 3188.5665 2191 DCB_int_01 3191.0100 like look, I just need to get some things off my chest. [And that- that] doesn't mean you crazy, or, 3194.9024 2192 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3192.8752 [Mm-hm.] 3193.4161 2193 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3195.1076 [Mm-hm.] 3195.6251 2194 DCB_int_01 3195.1309 [you gonna] go out and [shoot up fifteen peo-] You just 3197.4903 2195 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3196.3386 [Mm-hm.] 3197.0520 2196 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3197.6302 [Yeah, I knew it wasn't crazy.] It's just, it's a lot to deal with, and so like I tell people [all the time-] 3201.9935 2197 DCB_int_01 3197.6349 [/having/ some issues.] 3199.1130 2198 DCB_int_01 3199.1130 (pause 2.34) 3201.4526 2199 DCB_int_01 3201.4526 [And she was young. You guys are young.] 3203.3131 2200 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3202.3526 [She was young!] Yeah. And so, losing my grandfather- 3205.1270 2201 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3205.4441 It was hard. Of course it was hard, but I also felt like he got to live his life. 3209.1266 2202 DCB_int_01 3209.2572 [Mm-hm.] 3209.7328 2203 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3209.5463 [So when I] think about my best friend, it's just like- 3211.6119 2204 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3211.9558 She was working on her Masters. She would have been 3213.6065 2205 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3213.6065 (pause 0.16) 3213.7697 2206 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3213.7697 finished her Masters. 3214.8189 2207 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3214.8189 (pause 0.45) 3215.2665 2208 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3215.2665 She would- She had just got the 3216.7073 2209 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3216.7073 (pause 0.21) 3216.9125 2210 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3216.9125 position she wanted in HR for the Secret Service. 3219.6858 2211 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3219.6858 (pause 1.09) 3220.7769 2212 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3220.7769 No kids. She was my right hand in my mentoring programs. So it was just like- 3225.3594 2213 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3225.3594 (pause 0.45) 3225.8070 2214 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3225.8070 All the stuff was just like, damn. Did she have to go out like that? Like did it have to be so- Did she have to lose half of her face? Did she really have to 3232.2453 2215 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3232.2453 (pause 0.41) 3232.6557 2216 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3232.6557 go out like that? Just getting up because her sisters call her like, can you come and get us? 3236.5247 2217 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3236.5247 (pause 0.33) 3236.8558 2218 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3236.8558 And so that plays another part of me wanting to drive because /RD-NAME-2/ had just started driving. That accident was probably like /RD-NAME-2/ probably like, tenth time ever driving. 3243.1682 2219 DCB_int_01 3244.6836 But it wasn't her fault. 3245.6722 2220 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3245.6069 I know it wasn't her fault, but that kind of like, 3247.7425 2221 DCB_int_01 3249.2708 [Gives you pause. Yeah.] 3250.5810 2222 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3249.2754 [Shook me u- Yeah], like- 3251.0986 2223 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3251.4017 So I was at that point where /RD-NAME-2/ was like, oh /RD-NAME-3/, I did it, you know what I'm saying? Now I'm not the last one not to have my license. You should be next. You should go. 3257.3551 2224 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3257.3551 (pause 0.28) 3257.6395 2225 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3257.6395 I'm like, oh, I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. And then when that happened, I'm like, 3260.5294 2226 DCB_int_01 3261.2661 I'm good. 3261.7417 2227 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3261.7044 I'm good. 3262.2360 2228 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3262.5764 So like even now, 3263.6722 2229 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3263.6722 (pause 0.32) 3263.9939 2230 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3263.9939 getting the car, it's not- it's not good for me. I'm talking about like, if a 3266.7159 2231 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3266.7159 (pause 0.41) 3267.1309 2232 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3267.1309 bus coming right here, I'm like holding on to the rail. 3269.9892 2233 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3269.9892 (pause 0.28) 3270.2644 2234 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3270.2644 I'm like, 3270.8442 2235 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3270.8442 (pause 0.18) 3271.0237 2236 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3271.0237 real shook up. 3271.8637 2237 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3271.8637 (pause 0.64) 3272.5014 2238 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3272.5014 [It's real bad.] 3273.2241 2239 DCB_int_01 3272.5946 [So you'd rather] do public [transportation?] 3274.9867 2240 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3274.1287 [I'd rather] 3275.0240 2241 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3275.4297 do public transportation. But it's weird 3277.1317 2242 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3277.1317 (pause 0.73) 3277.8626 2243 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3277.8626 because our friend Jelly is in a Car Club. 3280.2220 2244 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3280.2220 (pause 0.90) 3281.1219 2245 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3281.1219 And so I'm around them. 3282.6419 2246 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3282.6419 (pause 0.06) 3282.7067 2247 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3282.7067 They speed. They do all types of stuff they want to do. 3285.0190 2248 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3285.0190 (pause 0.33) 3285.3500 2249 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3285.3500 And I be okay with it. 3286.3616 2250 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3286.3616 (pause 0.07) 3286.4363 2251 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3286.4363 It- it- 3286.8888 2252 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3286.8888 (pause 0.41) 3287.3038 2253 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3287.3038 it's weird. It's just [/but/] 3288.7027 2254 DCB_int_01 3288.3063 [No, because] there's certain associations. Right? That's 3290.3102 2255 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3290.4641 [] Yeah. [ /I- I-/ different.] Mm-hm. 3295.8171 2256 DCB_int_01 3290.4827 [I- I think th- th- that's recreational. ] 3292.3759 2257 DCB_int_01 3292.3759 (pause 0.54) 3292.9168 2258 DCB_int_01 3292.9168 [Right? So in your mind, that's something completely different.] 3295.0011 2259 DCB_int_01 3295.9465 But in a car- 3297.3290 2260 DCB_int_01 3297.3290 (pause 0.11) 3297.4391 2261 DCB_int_01 3297.4391 But you don't mind flying? 3298.6044 2262 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3298.8888 Right. 3299.2199 2263 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3299.2199 (pause 1.38) 3300.6047 2264 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3300.6047 It's the weirdest thing ever. 3301.7751 2265 DCB_int_01 3301.8171 Mm-hm. But because it's- j- th- [th-] And riding the bus is very different cause that's not 3306.2970 2266 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3303.5505 [] 3304.1894 2267 DCB_int_01 3306.6980 like, 3307.0291 2268 DCB_int_01 3307.0291 (pause 0.64) 3307.6667 2269 DCB_int_01 3307.6667 the kind of car that [she was- She was in a small personal car.] 3311.1406 2270 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3308.7625 [Yes m- Right. Mm-hm. Personal-] Mm-hm. 3311.7141 2271 DCB_int_01 3311.7374 And so it's very different. So it's not- It's not weird 3313.7411 2272 DCB_int_01 3313.7411 (pause 0.08) 3313.8212 2273 DCB_int_01 3313.8212 because the car club is very recreational. That's- They- It's an [activity.] 3317.3411 2274 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3316.9214 [/tivity/.] Yeah that [/probably is. Bus/-] 3318.5861 2275 DCB_int_01 3317.8633 [Riding the bus is- You're 3318.9311 2276 DCB_int_01 3319.0943 doing [something- get] some- But riding in the car, that conjures up all the memories. 3322.8888 2277 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3319.2622 [/Something to/] 3319.9523 2278 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3319.9523 (pause 2.15) 3322.1008 2279 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3322.1008 [Yeah /that] probably [is/. Yep.] 3324.3110 2280 DCB_int_01 3323.1826 [And all the sadness] that comes with that. And [so, it's] okay. And you may not want to do that for quite some time. 3329.2945 2281 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3325.5047 [Mm-hm.] 3325.9978 2282 DCB_int_01 3329.5789 And 3329.9100 2283 DCB_int_01 3329.9100 (pause 0.39) 3330.2970 2284 DCB_int_01 3330.2970 you know. 3330.6980 2285 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3330.8239 But I need to. I can't be on the train forever. 3332.9164 2286 DCB_int_01 3333.4293 No. 3333.8676 2287 DCB_int_01 3333.8676 (pause 0.52) 3334.3899 2288 DCB_int_01 3334.3899 But at the same time, guess what? 3335.8820 2289 DCB_int_01 3335.8820 (pause 0.43) 3336.3156 2290 DCB_int_01 3336.3156 [You getting where you] got to go, /ain't you/? 3337.5886 2291 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3336.3436 [] 3336.8659 2292 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3337.7367 Yeah. 3338.6040 2293 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3338.6040 (pause 0.35) 3338.9490 2294 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3338.9490 But I like to get up and go too. 3340.4132 2295 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3340.4132 (pause 0.41) 3340.8189 2296 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3340.8189 And the train sometimes be in the way. 3342.5488 2297 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3342.5488 (pause 0.61) 3343.1550 2298 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3343.1550 So that's something I'm working on, so 3345.4200 2299 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3345.4200 (pause 0.28) 3345.7044 2300 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3345.7044 I'm been praying about it. 3347.0753 2301 DCB_int_01 3347.3877 And that's all you can do. 3348.2877 2302 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3348.4882 [Yeah.] 3349.2342 2303 DCB_int_01 3348.7913 [And that's all you] can do. Okay. 3349.8264 2304 DCB_int_01 3350.1571 So let's 3350.9350 2305 DCB_int_01 3350.9350 (pause 0.15) 3351.0897 2306 DCB_int_01 3351.0897 stop being sad, [/and we gonna-/ ] 3353.4771 2307 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3352.0689 [] 3354.2931 2308 DCB_int_01 3354.2278 But thank you for sharing. 3355.2490 2309 DCB_se2_ag2_f_01 3355.2770 Mm-hm. 3355.6687 2310 DCB_int_01 3355.6687 Um, 3356.2408