Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.3930 Okay, so can you tell me your name again, now that we're actually recording? 3.5311 2 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 4.0580 My name is /RD-NAME-7/. 5.4475 3 DCB_int_01 6.0118 Excellent. 6.7578 4 DCB_int_01 6.7578 (pause 0.85) 7.6053 5 DCB_int_01 7.6053 And what's your birthday? 8.9855 6 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 9.7409 April twenty third, 10.7668 7 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 10.7668 (pause 0.80) 11.5688 8 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 11.5688 two thousand and- No, 12.6494 9 DCB_int_01 12.7473 13.3349 10 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 13.8944 nineteen eighty eight. 14.6731 11 DCB_int_01 14.9762 /And-/ I was like, you told [me you were eighteen!] 17.1864 12 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 15.8435 [] 18.1610 13 DCB_int_01 18.4349 Um, 19.1530 14 DCB_int_01 19.1530 (pause 0.48) 19.6286 15 DCB_int_01 19.6286 where were you born? 20.5099 16 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 20.7104 20.8736 17 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 20.8736 (pause 1.18) 22.0487 18 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 22.0487 In Washington DC? [You] wanna know the hospital? 24.2589 19 DCB_int_01 23.1258 [Mm-] 23.3590 20 DCB_int_01 24.6459 That'd be great. 25.3174 21 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 25.5400 Uh, Columbia Hospital for Women. 27.1254 22 DCB_int_01 30.7893 What neighborhood do you claim? 32.2488 23 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 33.0601 The neighborhood that I grew in is called uh, Fifteenth Place. 35.9138 24 DCB_int_01 36.2449 Fifteenth Place, where is that? 37.2649 25 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 37.4421 It's in Southeast DC. 38.6918 26 DCB_int_01 42.1050 I don't think I've ever heard that. 43.3628 27 DCB_int_01 43.3628 (pause 0.50) 43.8664 28 DCB_int_01 43.8664 How long have you been in DC? 45.1954 29 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 45.6104 45.8109 30 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 45.8109 (pause 0.21) 46.0254 31 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 46.0254 Say that one more time? 46.6782 32 DCB_int_01 46.7341 How long have you been in DC? 47.9185 33 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 48.2402 Since nineteen eighty eight. 49.3302 34 DCB_int_01 49.5680 Oh, since then- [Okay. All your life.] 50.9576 35 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 50.0157 [] 50.9436 36 DCB_int_01 53.5688 Have you lived anywhere else? 54.6821 37 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 54.6774 54.8033 38 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 55.0318 I currently live in Virginia. 56.2954 39 DCB_int_01 56.5332 What part? 56.8923 40 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 57.2980 Alexandria. 58.1093 41 DCB_int_01 58.1839 Oh. 58.3704 42 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 59.4709 I lived in Upper Marlboro for a year. 62.1555 43 DCB_int_01 68.5379 Uh, where'd you go to school? 69.9414 44 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 71.0885 College? Or high school. 72.1936 45 DCB_int_01 72.5014 Both. 72.8091 46 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 73.4468 I went to high school. It's called the n- uh, /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 76.0114 47 DCB_int_01 76.1746 /RD-SCHOOL-3/? Where is that? 77.2097 48 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 77.3030 It's in Northeast DC off of Benning Road. 79.1810 49 DCB_int_01 79.8151 Oh! 80.3560 50 DCB_int_01 80.3560 (pause 0.33) 80.6871 51 DCB_int_01 80.6871 This is your old stomping ground. 82.2212 52 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 82.4170 Not really, /well yeah/. [] 85.2894 53 DCB_int_01 83.4709 [But sort of.] 84.5666 54 DCB_int_01 86.6591 And um, 88.4357 55 DCB_int_01 88.4357 (pause 1.44) 89.8719 56 DCB_int_01 89.8719 college? 90.2959 57 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 90.3801 I went to uh, /RD-SCHOOL-7/ in Penn- [in Oxford], Pennsylvania. 93.5497 58 DCB_int_01 92.1649 [Penns-] 92.4400 59 DCB_int_01 93.5497 Yeah. 94.4730 60 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 94.4637 And I also went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 96.2589 61 DCB_int_01 97.0178 Mm-hm. 97.5121 62 DCB_int_01 97.5121 (pause 3.92) 101.4336 63 DCB_int_01 101.4336 One of our uh, kids, she just left last week to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. She was so [excited.] That was like her dream school. 107.1639 64 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 105.6803 [Mm.] 105.9647 65 DCB_int_01 108.1796 And what is your current occupation? 109.7172 66 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 110.0996 I am a lead legal assistant for /RD-WORK-6/. 112.4683 67 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 112.4683 (pause 1.67) 114.1423 68 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 114.1423 /RD-WORK-12/. 115.4000 69 DCB_int_01 121.7032 So what do you do? 122.3327 70 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 123.1907 123.3586 71 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 123.3586 (pause 0.57) 123.9274 72 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 123.9274 I do a variety of things but what my 126.6039 73 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 126.6039 (pause 1.03) 127.6380 74 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 127.6380 office focus on is we 129.4518 75 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 129.4518 (pause 1.22) 130.6735 76 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 130.6735 A- The ALJ issue a favorable decision. We look- We look at the ALJ's decision, 134.8037 77 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 134.8037 (pause 0.14) 134.9436 78 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 134.9436 and if the ALJ 136.3238 79 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 136.3238 (pause 0.26) 136.5849 80 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 136.5849 made a incorrect- 138.0724 81 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 138.0724 (pause 0.24) 138.3102 82 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 138.3102 If they made a mistake on their decision, 140.2348 83 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 140.2348 (pause 0.58) 140.8177 84 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 140.8177 we send- we remand the case for them to look at it again, and we- we let 'em know what the mistakes they made. 146.0483 85 DCB_int_01 146.6591 Gotcha. 147.2047 86 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 147.1954 So what I do personally, is I would mail out the- 149.9325 87 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 150.3615 the uh, remand order 151.6146 88 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 151.6146 (pause 0.15) 151.7639 89 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 151.7639 to go to the hearing office or the- back to the ALJ. 154.0020 90 DCB_int_01 154.1326 And how long have you been there? 155.2097 91 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 155.4942 Uh, since two thousand ten. 156.5946 92 DCB_int_01 157.0131 Oh! 157.4375 93 DCB_int_01 157.4375 (pause 0.27) 157.7032 94 DCB_int_01 157.7032 Been there for awhile, five [years almost.] Or, 159.7083 95 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 158.8736 [Yeah.] 159.1487 96 DCB_int_01 159.8762 yeah. 160.1326 97 DCB_int_01 160.1326 (pause 0.70) 160.8320 98 DCB_int_01 160.8320 Where were your parents born? Your dad, your mom. 163.4002 99 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 163.4887 Um, my m- 164.1789 100 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 164.1789 (pause 0.58) 164.7571 101 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 164.7571 father was born in Silver Spring, Maryland, and my mother was born in Washington DC. 168.7205 102 DCB_int_01 169.6613 Oh, so you deep. You not even like, first generation. 172.6082 103 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 173.0512 Nah. Nowhere near. 174.3661 104 DCB_int_01 174.3895 175.1950 105 DCB_int_01 175.1950 (pause 0.47) 175.6659 106 DCB_int_01 175.6659 Grandparents? 176.5006 107 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 176.6498 176.8223 108 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 176.8223 (pause 0.08) 176.9063 109 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 176.9063 Uh, I- 177.2793 110 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 177.2793 (pause 0.16) 177.4378 111 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 177.4378 I- 177.5777 112 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 177.5777 (pause 0.32) 177.8948 113 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 177.8948 I know my gr- grandmother was born in South- North Carolina. 181.0143 114 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 181.0143 (pause 1.34) 182.3514 115 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 182.3514 I'm not sure where my other grandparents was [born.] 184.4217 116 DCB_int_01 184.1653 [Oh] okay. I thought we were gonna be like, [and they were born] in [DC], 186.8966 117 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 185.5921 [] 186.1050 118 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 186.1050 (pause 0.59) 186.6972 119 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 186.6972 [Nah], I'm not [sure.] 187.5587 120 DCB_int_01 187.1717 [down the street-] okay. 188.3048 121 DCB_int_01 188.6172 [What is your-] 189.1954 122 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 188.6778 [I know my] 189.5731 123 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 190.7341 mother's father is from DC. I [do know that.] 193.3489 124 DCB_int_01 192.7858 [Oh.] 193.1215 125 DCB_int_01 193.8198 So your maternal grandfather is [also from] DC. 196.3891 126 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 195.6430 [Yeah.] 195.9135 127 DCB_int_01 201.7176 Cool. 202.0627 128 DCB_int_01 202.0627 (pause 0.84) 202.9067 129 DCB_int_01 202.9067 What does your father- What does your father do or did? 205.2474 130 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 208.0300 Uh, he currently works for- 210.3895 131 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 210.3895 (pause 1.67) 212.0576 132 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 212.0576 I do not know the name of the company, but he delivers uh, 215.1678 133 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 215.1678 (pause 0.79) 215.9605 134 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 215.9605 goods to like, 216.9397 135 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 216.9397 (pause 0.20) 217.1390 136 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 217.1390 homeless shelters or- 218.4633 137 DCB_int_01 218.7710 Hm. 219.0508 138 DCB_int_01 219.0508 (pause 3.74) 222.7940 139 DCB_int_01 222.7940 And what about mom? 223.6146 140 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 223.6566 223.8151 141 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 223.8151 (pause 0.10) 223.9177 142 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 223.9177 Mommy works for the army. She's a 225.8528 143 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 225.8528 (pause 0.37) 226.2259 144 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 226.2259 purchasing agent. 227.5734 145 DCB_int_01 239.8579 /That is all./ 240.5060 146 DCB_int_01 240.5060 (pause 0.42) 240.9245 147 DCB_int_01 240.9245 No more writing. 241.6240 148 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 241.6519 Hm. 241.9737 149 DCB_int_01 242.5659 Alright. 242.9622 150 DCB_int_01 242.9622 (pause 0.47) 243.4285 151 DCB_int_01 243.4285 So tell me about- Let's start from the beginning, and we'll work up. 247.1903 152 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 247.3209 [Mkay.] 247.7266 153 DCB_int_01 247.3395 [The good thing] is I don't really know you, so I've never heard these [stories.] 249.7829 154 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 249.5964 [Okay.] 249.9181 155 DCB_int_01 250.2772 Um, 250.8320 156 DCB_int_01 250.8320 (pause 0.74) 251.5688 157 DCB_int_01 251.5688 so, 252.1237 158 DCB_int_01 252.1237 (pause 0.71) 252.8313 159 DCB_int_01 252.8313 Columbia Hospital. So where'd you grow up? What- Fifteenth Place, is that /correct/? 256.9206 160 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 256.5010 [Yes.] 256.8973 161 DCB_int_01 257.2051 Okay, so tell me about that neighborhood, [your house-] 259.5307 162 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 258.6879 [Okay, now], Fifteen Place- You- you said what do I claim, so 262.3751 163 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 262.8414 my house is actually off of S- 264.1377 164 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 264.1377 (pause 0.20) 264.3335 165 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 264.3335 Stanley Road, 265.0236 166 DCB_int_01 265.4887 Mm. 265.7172 167 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 265.8058 but Fifteenth Place is like a big neighborhood. 268.2165 168 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 268.2165 (pause 0.14) 268.3611 169 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 268.3611 It's a- 268.9160 170 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 268.9160 (pause 0.21) 269.1211 171 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 269.1211 It- it /consists/ of Stanley Road, 270.7065 172 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 270.7065 (pause 0.61) 271.3209 173 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 271.3209 Bruce Place, Fifteenth Place, 273.2094 174 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 273.2094 (pause 0.28) 273.4845 175 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 273.4845 um, Hollywood Boulevard 275.0605 176 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 275.0605 (pause 0.39) 275.4522 177 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 275.4522 and Alabama Avenue. 276.5014 178 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 276.5014 (pause 1.02) 277.5214 179 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 277.5214 So, 277.8525 180 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 277.8525 (pause 0.20) 278.0483 181 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 278.0483 but we- If you grew up in that area /there/, you would say you from Fifteenth Place. 281.2331 182 DCB_int_01 282.3009 Okay. 282.7298 183 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 282.7753 So what do you wanna know about my neighborhood? 284.7058 184 DCB_int_01 285.8249 What do you remember? 286.7668 185 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 287.0232 288.6401 186 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 288.6401 (pause 0.30) 288.9432 187 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 288.9432 Well, 289.3349 188 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 289.3349 (pause 2.00) 291.3353 189 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 291.3353 291.5544 190 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 291.5544 (pause 0.62) 292.1746 191 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 292.1746 I don't wanna talk about the bad stuff unless you aks that specifically, but um, just growing up, 296.4446 192 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 296.4446 (pause 0.77) 297.2187 193 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 297.2187 you uh- we- we kids- you running around. You play tag. You play hide and go seek. Uh, 302.4027 194 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 302.4027 (pause 0.30) 302.7011 195 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 302.7011 you chase the little girls around. You [play on the playground.] 305.2331 196 DCB_int_01 304.2259 [] 305.2284 197 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 305.7786 Uh, 306.3055 198 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 306.3055 (pause 0.29) 306.5935 199 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 306.5935 growing up- I remember five years old, I was just playing football all the time. I'm a very 309.9601 200 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 309.9601 (pause 0.22) 310.1839 201 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 310.1839 big sports f- fan- fanatic. 311.8439 202 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 311.8439 (pause 0.80) 312.6459 203 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 312.6459 So I'd play football all the time. Um, 315.2420 204 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 315.2420 (pause 0.92) 316.1606 205 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 316.1606 growing up, uh, we didn't have a basketball court til I turned eight. 318.6506 206 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 318.6506 (pause 0.38) 319.0318 207 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 319.0318 So, that's when I discovered basketball, so I would play basketball all the time, so. 322.5336 208 DCB_int_01 323.2097 Who are your two favorite football- 324.5433 209 DCB_int_01 324.5433 (pause 0.25) 324.7940 210 DCB_int_01 324.7940 favorite football team and favorite [basketball /team/?] 326.5519 211 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 326.1089 [Of course I'm] a diehard Redskin fan. 327.9274 212 DCB_int_01 328.9067 Then are you a Wizards fan? 330.0397 213 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 330.2915 I am not a Wizards fan. 331.3942 214 DCB_int_01 331.7732 What's [your basketball] team? 332.5985 215 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 331.9037 [Gro-] 332.2162 216 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 332.7897 Growing up um- 333.7969 217 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 333.7969 (pause 0.55) 334.3471 218 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 334.3471 My basketball team is the Lakers. 335.4429 219 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 335.4429 (pause 0.94) 336.3848 220 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 336.3848 Growing up, foot- 337.1344 221 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 337.1344 (pause 0.23) 337.3628 222 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 337.3628 Like, basketball wasn't really my sport, 339.3539 223 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 339.3539 (pause 0.51) 339.8622 224 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 339.8622 and 340.0580 225 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 340.0580 (pause 0.43) 340.4870 226 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 340.4870 so I'd- I- 341.1351 227 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 341.1351 (pause 0.23) 341.3683 228 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 341.3683 I was bor- I was ber- b- 342.6459 229 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 342.6459 (pause 0.14) 342.7811 230 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 342.7811 /bredded/ into being a Redskin fan. 344.2301 231 DCB_int_01 344.3467 Mm-hm. 344.7710 232 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 344.8876 So the f- f- uh- the professional football teams, I didn't discover until I was eight. 348.4967 233 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 348.4967 (pause 0.29) 348.7905 234 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 348.7905 And then when I discovered that, I read a book about Kobe Bryant, 351.4705 235 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 351.4705 (pause 0.66) 352.1326 236 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 352.1326 and then that's when I became a Laker's fan. 353.7273 237 DCB_int_01 354.0864 Gotcha. 354.5480 238 DCB_int_01 354.5480 (pause 0.63) 355.1810 239 DCB_int_01 355.1810 So, 355.8431 240 DCB_int_01 355.8431 (pause 0.80) 356.6405 241 DCB_int_01 356.6405 I'll ask you about the bad stuff in a minute, 358.5243 242 DCB_int_01 358.5243 (pause 0.59) 359.1165 243 DCB_int_01 359.1165 but 359.5082 244 DCB_int_01 359.5082 (pause 0.26) 359.7693 245 DCB_int_01 359.7693 did you grow up in an apartment, a [townhome-] 361.9550 246 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 361.3675 [Uh, house.] 362.0203 247 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 362.2255 Town- Would you call it a townhome? 363.6150 248 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 363.6150 (pause 0.53) 364.1419 249 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 364.1419 I wouldn't call it a townhome. 365.2097 250 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 365.2097 (pause 0.66) 365.8719 251 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 365.8719 I would just call it a house. 366.9677 252 DCB_int_01 367.2836 A house? 367.7452 253 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 367.7266 Yeah. 367.9737 254 DCB_int_01 368.0250 Are you an only child? 368.8876 255 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 369.0695 No. 369.3726 256 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 369.3726 (pause 0.13) 369.4985 257 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 369.4985 I have four sisters. 370.4077 258 DCB_int_01 370.9486 And you're the only brother? I mean [the only] 372.4920 259 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 372.1889 [Only] boy. [Yes.] 373.2334 260 DCB_int_01 372.6739 [boy.] 373.0376 261 DCB_int_01 373.5260 Okay, so tell me about that [experience?] 375.4705 262 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 375.3726 [Um], to be honest with you, it wasn't that bad because my sisters are way older than me. 379.2754 263 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 379.4608 The sister 380.1136 264 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 380.1136 (pause 0.32) 380.4353 265 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 380.4353 older than me is- She's nine years, 382.2072 266 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 382.2072 (pause 0.33) 382.5336 267 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 382.5336 so 382.9486 268 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 382.9486 (pause 0.29) 383.2424 269 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 383.2424 she kind of raised me and my little sister. So it was just me and her. 385.6333 270 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 385.6333 (pause 0.63) 386.2628 271 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 386.2628 But the rest of my sisters, they was already out the house. 388.0394 272 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 388.0394 (pause 1.14) 389.1771 273 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 389.1771 The only time- 389.8252 274 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 389.8252 (pause 0.30) 390.1283 275 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 390.1283 I- I will say we probably- They- 391.5260 276 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 391.5260 (pause 0.18) 391.7032 277 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 391.7032 They was in the house probably when I was, what? 393.4052 278 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 393.4052 (pause 1.32) 394.7248 279 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 394.7248 I wanna say from like, 395.6387 280 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 395.6387 (pause 0.68) 396.3195 281 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 396.3195 three to 397.4141 282 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 397.4141 (pause 2.41) 399.8202 283 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 399.8202 t- 399.9554 284 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 399.9554 (pause 0.15) 400.1046 285 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 400.1046 to probably six years old? So that's the only time I experienced a lot of 402.9478 286 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 402.9478 (pause 0.14) 403.0877 287 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 403.0877 women in the house. And you know, females can't get along. So my sisters used to fight all the time. 406.9346 288 DCB_int_01 408.4734 And you were just the innocent little boy? 409.8898 289 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 410.5892 I wouldn't say innocent, but 412.8274 290 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 412.8274 (pause 0.46) 413.2843 291 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 413.2843 yes, I was- I w- I wouldn't necessa- say- say my older sisters were really focused on me 417.4751 292 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 417.4751 (pause 0.42) 417.8948 293 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 417.8948 too much. Like, it's- it's just probably just me and my little sister 420.5527 294 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 420.5527 (pause 0.45) 420.9991 295 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 420.9991 and my mother and father. 421.9923 296 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 421.9923 (pause 0.65) 422.6405 297 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 422.6405 So they was kind of- You know how they- they into their own thing. 425.3683 298 DCB_int_01 426.1237 I do. 426.5900 299 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 426.6832 Yeah. 427.0562 300 DCB_int_01 427.1495 I do. 427.6053 301 DCB_int_01 427.6053 (pause 0.51) 428.1136 302 DCB_int_01 428.1136 Um, 428.7757 303 DCB_int_01 428.7757 (pause 0.67) 429.4425 304 DCB_int_01 429.4425 [so now-] 430.2818 305 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 429.7689 [So-] 430.1326 306 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 430.3658 to answer your question, it wasn't that bad. 431.6807 307 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 431.6807 (pause 0.15) 431.8346 308 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 431.8346 [ No.] 432.8324 309 DCB_int_01 432.0071 [It wasn't that bad.] 432.8231 310 DCB_int_01 433.0504 Which I'm surprised cause it was just you and your dad were the only guys in the [house] right? And then, four women, 437.5128 311 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 435.9181 [Yeah.] 436.1886 312 DCB_int_01 437.8812 but at different times, so it wasn't too bad. 439.9877 313 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 440.0017 No. 440.2908 314 DCB_int_01 440.7477 So, 441.2700 315 DCB_int_01 441.2700 (pause 0.22) 441.4938 316 DCB_int_01 441.4938 thinking about- 442.2725 317 DCB_int_01 442.2725 (pause 0.19) 442.4637 318 DCB_int_01 442.4637 Have you gone back to your neighborhood? 443.8066 319 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 444.3568 I go back there all the time. My- my friends, they- What they did was they- they 447.7278 320 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 447.7278 (pause 0.11) 447.8388 321 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 447.8388 s- tore down the neighborhood, and they rebuilt it. 449.6107 322 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 449.6107 (pause 0.12) 449.7320 323 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 449.7320 And a lot of people that used to live there moved back. So one of my friends- Well, my best friend, 453.6290 324 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 453.6290 (pause 0.12) 453.7456 325 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 453.7456 he's- 454.0440 326 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 454.0440 (pause 0.27) 454.3145 327 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 454.3145 they move- one of the people that moved back, so I go there- I go there often. 456.9152 328 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 456.9152 (pause 0.61) 457.5260 329 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 457.5260 Well I used to anyway. 458.3421 330 DCB_int_01 459.3586 So tell me about these friends you used to hang out with. 461.6900 331 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 461.9045 462.1983 332 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 462.1983 (pause 0.80) 462.9945 333 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 462.9945 Oh you wanna know the names specifically or? 464.7011 334 DCB_int_01 464.9576 You can if you want, or you can just talk about them. 467.1305 335 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 467.2331 Okay. Well, 468.3242 336 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 468.3242 (pause 0.17) 468.4920 337 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 468.4920 my friend- 469.3395 338 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 469.3395 (pause 1.65) 470.9902 339 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 470.9902 my friend /RD-NAME-2/, 472.3564 340 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 472.3564 (pause 1.38) 473.7320 341 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 473.7320 we- we- we all- It's a group us. It's- 475.8664 342 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 475.8664 (pause 1.27) 477.1394 343 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 477.1394 it's me, 477.6850 344 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 477.6850 (pause 0.54) 478.2212 345 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 478.2212 Fat Man, which is named /RD-NAME-4/, 480.5060 346 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 480.5060 (pause 0.15) 480.6541 347 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 480.6541 /RD-NAME-2/, /RD-NAME-5/, 482.1928 348 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 482.1928 (pause 0.42) 482.6125 349 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 482.6125 /RD-NAME-2/, /RD-NAME-4/. We all grew up since we were s- 485.5501 350 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 485.5501 (pause 0.26) 485.8113 351 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 485.8113 three years old. 486.4594 352 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 486.4594 (pause 1.29) 487.7499 353 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 487.7499 Cause I- My- 488.5612 354 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 488.5612 (pause 0.23) 488.7897 355 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 488.7897 I used to live in North- My family's from Northwest. 490.8087 356 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 490.8087 (pause 0.47) 491.2750 357 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 491.2750 And me and my- me and my sister are the only two that grew up in Southeast. 494.0157 358 DCB_int_01 494.7244 Gotcha. 495.1301 359 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 495.2606 [All my sisters], 496.0347 360 DCB_int_01 495.2840 [What part of Northwest?] 496.4357 361 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 496.2072 [they] went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 497.5128 362 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 497.9325 Um, 498.5107 363 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 498.5107 (pause 0.70) 499.2136 364 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 499.2136 what's that- Rand- Randolph Street. My grandmother still has a house off Randolph Street. 502.1233 365 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 502.1233 (pause 0.61) 502.7295 366 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 502.7295 So when I was born, we lived in Jefferson- 505.2568 367 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 505.2568 (pause 0.57) 505.8291 368 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 505.8291 on Jefferson Street for two years. 507.3259 369 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 507.3259 (pause 0.46) 507.7876 370 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 507.7876 So I don't recall any of that. 509.0232 371 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 509.0232 (pause 0.69) 509.7180 372 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 509.7180 I just remember moving to Southeast when I was three years old. 512.2162 373 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 512.2162 (pause 1.17) 513.3819 374 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 513.3819 So we s- 515.3170 375 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 515.3170 (pause 0.20) 515.5128 376 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 515.5128 So we grew up, 516.6086 377 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 516.6086 (pause 0.32) 516.9245 378 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 516.9245 since we was three years old. 517.9131 379 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 517.9131 (pause 0.88) 518.7897 380 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 518.7897 Uh, when I was twelve, that's when they tore down the neighborhood. 521.5082 381 DCB_int_01 521.5734 Mm. 521.8019 382 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 521.8625 So 522.4594 383 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 522.4594 (pause 0.79) 523.2463 384 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 523.2463 as children we was all tight. 524.8783 385 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 524.8783 (pause 0.18) 525.0555 386 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 525.0555 Uh, we just- All we did was play basketball. /?/ 527.1724 387 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 527.1724 (pause 0.59) 527.7646 388 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 527.7646 We wasn't really into doing anything 529.7032 389 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 529.7032 (pause 0.78) 530.4819 390 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 530.4819 negative. We would have uh, 531.9461 391 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 531.9461 (pause 0.21) 532.1606 392 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 532.1606 rock fights, 532.9533 393 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 532.9533 (pause 0.62) 533.5688 394 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 533.5688 um, 534.1563 395 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 534.1563 (pause 0.47) 534.6261 396 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 534.6261 sling /shock/ fights. That's- that's all about it- That's all that we- We wasn't really into none of the 539.3869 397 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 539.3869 (pause 0.73) 540.1143 398 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 540.1143 crime or doing anything 541.6706 399 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 541.6706 (pause 0.35) 542.0157 400 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 542.0157 bad or anything like that. 543.1347 401 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 543.1347 (pause 0.74) 543.8715 402 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 543.8715 My group of friends wasn't. 544.9906 403 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 544.9906 (pause 1.72) 546.7147 404 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 546.7147 So when we got older, we- we s- we split up. I moved to Southwest for uh, 550.4917 405 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 550.4917 (pause 1.30) 551.7879 406 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 551.7879 two years 552.3382 407 DCB_int_01 552.7147 Mm. 552.9618 408 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 552.9525 when I was thirteen or fourteen. 554.3187 409 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 555.4378 And um, my other friends, they moved to uh- You ever heard of Woodland? 559.3780 410 DCB_int_01 559.8058 Mm-hm. 560.2628 411 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 560.6032 My other friend /RD-NAME-2/, he moved to Woodland. 562.2865 412 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 562.2865 (pause 0.20) 562.4823 413 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 562.4823 My friend /RD-NAME-2/, he moved back to- him and his family's from Barry Far- They moved back to Barry Farms. 566.3700 414 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 566.3700 (pause 0.61) 566.9809 415 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 566.9809 And my other friend, he moved up the street by Seven District. 569.5035 416 DCB_int_01 571.2183 So, 571.9271 417 DCB_int_01 571.9271 (pause 0.22) 572.1509 418 DCB_int_01 572.1509 okay. 572.6265 419 DCB_int_01 572.6265 (pause 1.33) 573.9601 420 DCB_int_01 573.9601 So you were the only one who moved out of [Southeast?] 576.3755 421 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 576.1656 [Yes.] 576.5760 422 DCB_int_01 577.2276 So how was that? 578.4680 423 DCB_int_01 578.4680 (pause 0.13) 578.5985 424 DCB_int_01 578.5985 Do you feel like- Were you able to go back? 580.9067 425 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 581.3823 Uh, 581.9418 426 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 581.9418 (pause 0.31) 582.2542 427 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 582.2542 no because that neighborhood was gone. So I- we didn't go back to that neighborhood, but I would go visit my friends. 586.4450 428 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 586.4450 (pause 0.61) 587.0559 429 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 587.0559 All the time. 587.6387 430 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 587.6387 (pause 0.19) 587.8252 431 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 587.8252 Uh, they would come visit me in Southwest. 589.4887 432 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 589.4887 (pause 0.46) 589.9457 433 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 589.9457 And when I moved to Southwest I was- It was kind of like- 592.4357 434 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 592.4357 (pause 0.78) 593.2144 435 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 593.2144 I didn't know that 594.3755 436 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 594.3755 (pause 0.91) 595.2836 437 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 595.2836 Southwest was that bad of a neighborhood. 597.2840 438 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 597.2840 (pause 0.26) 597.5404 439 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 597.5404 Just- just as bad as Southeast. 599.0186 440 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 599.0186 (pause 0.61) 599.6294 441 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 599.6294 So it wasn't really no transition. 601.3209 442 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 601.3209 (pause 0.51) 601.8338 443 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 601.8338 Like it [would be] gunshots right outside my backyard. 604.4590 444 DCB_int_01 602.2535 [Hm.] 602.5426 445 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 605.2937 So Southwest is s- well was, cause it's different now, was just as bad as Southeast. 609.6803 446 DCB_int_01 610.0627 What part of Southwest? 611.2564 447 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 611.1911 Uh, 611.7973 448 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 612.1097 t- what is that called? 613.4841 449 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 613.4841 (pause 1.45) 614.9296 450 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 614.9296 I forgot the name of it. Um, 616.5196 451 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 616.5196 (pause 1.02) 617.5408 452 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 617.5408 right there 618.2636 453 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 618.2636 (pause 0.27) 618.5329 454 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 618.5329 across the street 619.4561 455 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 619.4561 (pause 0.45) 619.9037 456 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 619.9037 from the Nationals Stadium. 621.4985 457 DCB_int_01 622.4264 Oh, f- 622.7435 458 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 622.7481 You know where Waterfront Station is? 624.2822 459 DCB_int_01 624.5573 Mm-hm. 624.9024 460 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 625.0131 Right there, in that area. 626.0390 461 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 626.0390 (pause 0.54) 626.5752 462 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 626.5752 Before they built all that stuff up, right there. 628.4264 463 DCB_int_01 628.7714 Mm-hm. 629.1621 464 DCB_int_01 629.1621 (pause 0.18) 629.3403 465 DCB_int_01 629.3403 By the- by- by Arena Stage. 631.3116 466 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 633.6477 Um, you know where I Street is? 634.9906 467 DCB_int_01 635.5641 Mm-hm. 635.8952 468 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 636.0584 Yeah. 636.3848 469 DCB_int_01 636.8686 [Like this] 637.4141 470 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 636.8779 [It was /off I Street-/] 637.4654 471 DCB_int_01 637.6286 condos, apartments or [something- /It was a lot./] 639.6756 472 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 638.8363 [Yeah it was condos and] there was- it's some houses. 640.8880 473 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 641.0186 on your uh, 641.6667 474 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 641.6667 (pause 0.27) 641.9325 475 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 641.9325 right hand side. 642.6459 476 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 642.6459 (pause 0.35) 642.9991 477 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 642.9991 And the- I think it was called Green Leaf something. 644.7804 478 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 644.7804 (pause 0.13) 644.9063 479 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 644.9063 Green Leaf- 645.2513 480 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 645.2513 (pause 0.30) 645.5497 481 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 645.5497 I don't remember the name of the neighborhood. 647.0699 482 DCB_int_01 647.8206 So going back for a second because I think it was really interesting. You're like, I'm not gonna tell you the bad stuff. 651.8715 483 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 652.0347 [] 652.3751 484 DCB_int_01 652.2492 [But] then you just talked about [like, the gunshots] [and-] 654.6972 485 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 653.0139 [Because I don't- I don't-] 653.8532 486 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 653.8532 (pause 0.62) 654.4769 487 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 654.4769 [I-] I personally don't like to talk about that because I don't- I- 657.2886 488 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 657.5358 I don't think that's 658.4637 489 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 658.4637 (pause 0.29) 658.7528 490 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 658.7528 relevant to anything. Like, I mean ever- Of course, everybody grows up in a bad area, 662.7058 491 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 662.7058 (pause 0.60) 663.3073 492 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 663.3073 and everybody goes through that stuff. 664.6782 493 DCB_int_01 664.6968 Right. 664.9346 494 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 665.0139 But I don't- I don't like to glorify it 666.4827 495 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 666.4827 (pause 0.12) 666.6039 496 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 666.6039 cause I don't think that's important. 667.9037 497 DCB_int_01 668.0623 Was it [the neighborhood-] It wasn't you specifically? 670.2818 498 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 668.3560 [But it-] 668.6451 499 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 668.6451 (pause 1.35) 669.9927 500 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 669.9927 Nah, nah, nah. 670.7481 501 DCB_int_01 670.7714 Okay. 671.0605 502 DCB_int_01 671.0605 (pause 1.19) 672.2496 503 DCB_int_01 672.2496 Um, 672.8138 504 DCB_int_01 672.8138 (pause 0.73) 673.5447 505 DCB_int_01 673.5447 so what do you feel like was your 674.9016 506 DCB_int_01 674.9016 (pause 0.21) 675.1114 507 DCB_int_01 675.1114 best memory 676.3331 508 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 676.7155 [From?] 677.2564 509 DCB_int_01 676.7201 [in- before] you moved. 678.1330 510 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 678.7345 Just- To be honest with you, just being with my friends. Like, I- Like, to this day, we still are tight. So I j- I love hanging with my friends. We- 685.2649 511 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 685.2649 (pause 0.92) 686.1835 512 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 686.1835 Uh, I don't have one specific memory 688.2772 513 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 688.2772 (pause 0.43) 688.7061 514 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 688.7061 to be truthfully honest with you. 689.9838 515 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 689.9838 (pause 1.59) 691.5773 516 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 691.5773 But it's j- it's just- just being able to go outside and just hang with them all night- all nights of the hour- til four, five o'clock in the morning. 698.0157 517 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 698.0157 (pause 0.43) 698.4493 518 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 698.4493 698.7757 519 DCB_int_01 699.4052 So now going back to the neighborhood, right? 701.8765 520 DCB_int_01 701.8765 (pause 1.42) 703.2929 521 DCB_int_01 703.2929 It's d- very different, 704.3887 522 DCB_int_01 704.3887 (pause 0.26) 704.6451 523 DCB_int_01 704.6451 I'm assuming. 705.3959 524 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 705.7736 [Yeah.] 706.1326 525 DCB_int_01 705.9321 [When] they rebuilt [it.] 707.2704 526 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 706.8927 [Yeah.] 707.2470 527 DCB_int_01 707.7786 Um, what differences do you see now, 710.0763 528 DCB_int_01 710.0763 (pause 0.12) 710.1975 529 DCB_int_01 710.1975 and does it feel the same? 711.6523 530 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 711.6570 In the neighborhood, [or-] 712.8181 531 DCB_int_01 712.6362 [H-] Back to Fifteenth, like that area 714.5666 532 DCB_int_01 714.7345 because- 715.1029 533 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 715.1903 Uh, [the difference] is they- 716.7011 534 DCB_int_01 715.4095 [Like you f-] 715.8338 535 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 717.2933 they- 717.7642 536 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 717.7642 (pause 0.43) 718.1932 537 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 718.1932 The people are still the same. It's just the- 720.2076 538 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 720.2076 (pause 0.28) 720.4827 539 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 720.4827 the area look different. Like, th- 721.9737 540 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 721.9737 (pause 0.27) 722.2395 541 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 722.2395 Have you seen the news where um, the two- the men 725.0419 542 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 725.0419 (pause 0.14) 725.1864 543 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 725.1864 got raped? 725.5734 544 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 725.5734 (pause 0.26) 725.8299 545 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 725.8299 The dude got raped 726.6879 546 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 726.6879 (pause 0.32) 727.0096 547 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 727.0096 by four men? 727.6799 548 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 727.6799 (pause 0.40) 728.0763 549 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 728.0763 They- 728.2721 550 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 728.2721 (pause 1.24) 729.5124 551 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 729.5124 Well that's- that's the neighborhood where I grew up in. 731.4324 552 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 731.4324 (pause 0.15) 731.5828 553 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 731.5828 That's by the Giant. 732.6226 554 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 732.6226 (pause 0.47) 733.0971 555 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 733.0971 I'm surprised you didn't see that on the news. 734.4167 556 DCB_int_01 734.8363 I try not to watch the news. 736.3051 557 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 736.1606 736.8041 558 DCB_int_01 736.8973 Purposely. 737.5734 559 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 737.5874 Okay. 737.8486 560 DCB_int_01 738.1190 Mm-hm. 738.4407 561 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 738.6914 Well yeah yeah yeah. They- They built a um- 740.9669 562 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 740.9669 (pause 0.41) 741.3726 563 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 741.3726 741.4751 564 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 741.4751 (pause 0.08) 741.5591 565 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 741.5591 We had a um- 742.4124 566 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 742.4124 (pause 1.15) 743.5595 567 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 743.5595 We had a shopping center. 744.5375 568 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 744.5375 (pause 0.18) 744.7194 569 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 744.7194 We had- It's called Lee's Market, and we had our carry out called /What Luck/. 747.9647 570 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 747.9647 (pause 0.98) 748.9486 571 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 748.9486 So that area, they tore that down. They built a um, 751.4002 572 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 751.4002 (pause 0.41) 751.8151 573 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 751.8151 a Giant right there [and] 753.4938 574 DCB_int_01 753.1674 [Hm.] 753.5264 575 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 754.0440 S- a Subway and all that stuff, so. 756.4547 576 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 756.4547 (pause 1.02) 757.4701 577 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 757.4701 But yeah, the neighborhood just look totally different. No, it- it- it's nothing that- 760.5103 578 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 760.5103 (pause 0.21) 760.7248 579 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 760.7248 that- 761.0279 580 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 761.0279 (pause 0.20) 761.2237 581 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 761.2237 that reminds me of the old neighborhood. 762.6179 582 DCB_int_01 763.0877 But just the people. 763.8851 583 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 763.8618 Just the people. 764.4260 584 DCB_int_01 764.9855 Kay. 765.2047 585 DCB_int_01 765.2047 (pause 0.30) 765.5031 586 DCB_int_01 765.5031 So let's talk a little bit about your family. 767.2983 587 DCB_int_01 767.2983 (pause 0.78) 768.0770 588 DCB_int_01 768.0770 Um, 768.8313 589 DCB_int_01 768.8313 (pause 0.34) 769.1670 590 DCB_int_01 769.1670 you said your grandpar- your maternal grandfather was a DC [native.] 773.1159 591 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 772.7061 [Yeah.] 773.1025 592 DCB_int_01 773.4056 Your mom was DC. 774.7763 593 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 774.7718 Yeah. 775.0562 594 DCB_int_01 775.1763 Um- 775.7965 595 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 775.7872 My father grew up in DC. He just was born in Maryland. 778.2352 596 DCB_int_01 778.7248 Oh, he grew up in [DC as well?] 780.1848 597 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 779.3729 [Yeah s- same] neighborhood as my mother. 781.0318 598 DCB_int_01 781.2136 So how'd your parents meet? 782.1416 599 DCB_int_01 782.1416 (pause 0.16) 782.3001 600 DCB_int_01 782.3001 Do you know? 782.7244 601 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 782.7151 Yeah, my father tell me the story all the time. [] 785.4115 602 DCB_int_01 784.9393 [] 785.6854 603 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 785.8019 He said uh, he was just coming around the neighborhood, 788.4400 604 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 788.4400 (pause 1.00) 789.4425 605 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 789.4425 and he was playing football in the alley with his friends. 791.9745 606 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 791.9745 (pause 0.28) 792.2496 607 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 792.2496 And he said my mother seen him, and my father's real real dark, 794.9715 608 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 794.9715 (pause 0.66) 795.6290 609 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 795.6290 so my mother said, hey black boy, 797.1118 610 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 797.1118 (pause 0.21) 797.3216 611 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 797.3216 or something like that. 798.2029 612 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 798.2029 (pause 0.83) 799.0376 613 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 799.0376 And 799.4000 614 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 799.4000 (pause 0.42) 799.8245 615 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 799.8245 that's how he uh- he 801.2700 616 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 801.2700 (pause 0.15) 801.4238 617 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 801.4238 got introduced to my mother. Cause my mother, she's a- she's a real calm chill person now, but she said in her childhood, she was a real 807.2047 618 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 807.2047 (pause 1.16) 808.3658 619 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 808.3658 uh- I don't wanna say, she was a 810.0211 620 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 810.0211 (pause 1.30) 811.3255 621 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 811.3255 troubled child. Like she would fight all the time, beat people up. So she was real aggressive. 815.2750 622 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 815.2750 (pause 0.80) 816.0724 623 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 816.0724 So my father tells me that story all the time. 817.9224 624 DCB_int_01 818.4493 How old were they when they met? 819.5404 625 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 819.8435 Um, I'm not s- I think fourteen. 823.0236 626 DCB_int_01 823.8478 Oh, [like] 824.4726 627 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 824.2068 [Yeah], fourteen. Yeah. 825.0042 628 DCB_int_01 825.7083 high school, maybe. 826.9440 629 DCB_int_01 826.9440 (pause 0.14) 827.0792 630 DCB_int_01 827.0792 Just at the [beginning of high school.] 828.7112 631 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 827.6294 [Junior high school. Junior] high school maybe. 829.6799 632 DCB_int_01 830.1369 Wow. 830.6358 633 DCB_int_01 830.6358 (pause 0.17) 830.8037 634 DCB_int_01 830.8037 And they were together that whole time? 832.5523 635 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 833.0559 Uh, not necessarily together, but that's- that's how long they knew each other. 835.8758 636 DCB_int_01 835.9504 Oh, okay. 836.5519 637 DCB_int_01 836.5519 (pause 0.23) 836.7804 638 DCB_int_01 836.7804 Um, 837.5078 639 DCB_int_01 837.5078 (pause 0.51) 838.0207 640 DCB_int_01 838.0207 and then, how did- Do you know how they kind of ended up together [together?] 841.7219 641 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 841.4887 [I] do not know this story. 842.6685 642 DCB_int_01 842.6358 You do not [know the s-] 843.3912 643 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 843.0835 [I'm'a aks] when I get- [ Yeah.] 845.5921 644 DCB_int_01 843.9135 [ Now, you're gonna go like], look, let me talk [to you for] a minute. 847.0423 645 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 846.2811 [] 846.7100 646 DCB_int_01 847.4375 Um, 847.9923 647 DCB_int_01 847.9923 (pause 0.36) 848.3514 648 DCB_int_01 848.3514 okay. So then, your parents- You started in Northwest. 851.3403 649 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 851.4522 Yeah. 851.7786 650 DCB_int_01 852.0631 And then, 852.7578 651 DCB_int_01 852.7578 (pause 0.30) 853.0598 652 DCB_int_01 853.0598 how did- Do you know how parents moved to [Southeast?] 855.6943 653 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 855.4052 [My mother] was 856.1792 654 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 856.3658 tr- 857.2424 655 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 857.2424 (pause 0.29) 857.5361 656 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 857.5361 sh- 858.4407 657 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 858.4407 (pause 0.14) 858.5841 658 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 858.5841 I'm- I'm- I think something 860.1975 659 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 860.1975 (pause 0.33) 860.5286 660 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 860.5286 /dramastically/ happened in Jefferson Street with my father. 864.1330 661 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 864.1330 (pause 0.73) 864.8593 662 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 864.8593 So my mother wanted to move from that area. 867.0601 663 DCB_int_01 867.1487 Mm. 867.4798 664 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 867.9088 So I'm not sure she was familiar with Southeast 870.1283 665 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 870.1283 (pause 0.50) 870.6319 666 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 870.6319 because she- she said she wanted to get out of a bad neighborhood. 872.9622 667 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 872.9622 (pause 0.26) 873.2187 668 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 873.2187 But she moved- end up moving to another bad neighborhood (laughing). 875.4056 669 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 875.4056 (pause 0.54) 875.9418 670 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 875.9418 But she said um, 877.0702 671 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 877.0702 (pause 0.58) 877.6473 672 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 877.6473 she was looking for somewhere to live, and she said Northwest was too expensive. 880.4357 673 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 880.4357 (pause 0.19) 880.6222 674 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 880.6222 So she moved to Southeast, 881.9418 675 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 881.9418 (pause 0.45) 882.3895 676 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 882.3895 where it was less expensive. 883.7405 677 DCB_int_01 884.4027 Gotcha. 884.8130 678 DCB_int_01 884.8130 (pause 0.39) 885.2047 679 DCB_int_01 885.2047 And then, 885.8482 680 DCB_int_01 885.8482 (pause 0.69) 886.5429 681 DCB_int_01 886.5429 so now- Do your fam- Does your fam- Are- Is your family still really close now? 890.1462 682 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 890.5565 Yes. 890.9342 683 DCB_int_01 891.4285 And do y'all have anything like where y'all get together on Sundays or watch football [games or-] 896.0203 684 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 895.3815 [No, I'm] the only f- f- uh, sports fanatic in our family. 898.5896 685 DCB_int_01 898.8460 Oh okay. 899.3590 686 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 899.3310 How was I introduced to football? 900.5293 687 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 900.7147 [My uncle.] 901.1390 688 DCB_int_01 900.7147 [Mm.] 900.9712 689 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 902.5612 My father doesn't watch sports at all. 904.0067 690 DCB_int_01 904.5989 [Really?] 905.0978 691 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 904.8787 [Yeah.] 905.2051 692 DCB_int_01 906.0071 Okay. 906.4780 693 DCB_int_01 906.4780 (pause 0.36) 906.8406 694 DCB_int_01 906.8406 So, 907.4887 695 DCB_int_01 907.4887 (pause 1.11) 908.5985 696 DCB_int_01 908.5985 um, when you say y'all are close, what makes you close? Like, do y'all have family [traditions?] 913.5494 697 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 913.3302 [We don't] necessarily have family traditions, we just- we- 915.6010 698 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 915.7969 d- 915.9135 699 DCB_int_01 915.8808 [Oh (quiet).] 916.1932 700 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 916.1699 When we do- /I mean/- When we are able to see each other, 918.9677 701 DCB_int_01 918.9956 Mm-hm. 919.3687 702 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 919.4095 we- we embrace each other. 920.9809 703 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 920.9809 (pause 0.46) 921.4425 704 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 921.4425 Like, we- we all- we love each other so much. Like, it's- 924.2169 705 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 924.2169 (pause 1.68) 925.8944 706 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 925.8944 Um, I'm not explaining but, 927.7083 707 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 927.7083 (pause 0.13) 927.8342 708 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 927.8342 when we- when we do or when we are able to get together, 931.7872 709 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 931.7872 (pause 0.10) 931.8898 710 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 931.8898 we just like, 932.4260 711 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 932.4260 (pause 0.66) 933.0881 712 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 933.0881 we enjoy that mom- We embrace those moments. 935.2610 713 DCB_int_01 935.4755 Mm. 935.8765 714 DCB_int_01 935.8765 (pause 0.55) 936.4314 715 DCB_int_01 936.4314 Gotcha. 936.9350 716 DCB_int_01 936.9350 (pause 0.32) 937.2556 717 DCB_int_01 937.2556 Do your sisters still live in the area? 938.7897 718 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 939.1581 All my sisters still live in the area. 940.5196 719 DCB_int_01 940.7761 Oh [wow.] 941.5455 720 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 941.1911 [Yeah.] 941.5548 721 DCB_int_01 941.7506 So everybody's h- [here] pretty [much.] 943.8525 722 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 942.7147 [Yeah.] 943.0131 723 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 943.0131 (pause 0.62) 943.6380 724 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 943.6380 [Yeah.] 943.8898 725 DCB_int_01 944.4307 Um, 945.0555 726 DCB_int_01 945.0555 (pause 0.26) 945.3119 727 DCB_int_01 945.3119 so let's go back a little bit because now I'm gonna ask you 947.6714 728 DCB_int_01 947.6714 (pause 0.13) 947.8019 729 DCB_int_01 947.8019 something not necessarily your family. [So let's talk] about school. Did you like school? 951.4378 730 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 949.4794 [Mkay.] 949.8291 731 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 951.6803 I loved school. 952.2399 732 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 952.2399 (pause 0.17) 952.4077 733 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 952.4077 Uh, did like- Did I like school as a child? 954.3331 734 DCB_int_01 954.3615 Mm-hm, before you got older. 956.0949 735 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 956.5752 Um, 957.1301 736 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 957.1301 (pause 1.06) 958.1886 737 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 958.1886 I'm not gonna necessarily I l- say I loved it or hated it. I- I don't have any 961.0236 738 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 961.0236 (pause 0.19) 961.2090 739 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 961.2090 bad memories from school. 962.5752 740 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 962.5752 (pause 0.33) 962.9063 741 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 962.9063 School was always 964.2772 742 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 964.2772 (pause 0.35) 964.6315 743 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 964.6315 okay. Like, 965.4569 744 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 965.4569 (pause 1.39) 966.8464 745 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 966.8464 I didn't hate school to answer your question. 968.4353 746 DCB_int_01 968.6591 Which- Which elementary school did you go to? 970.3844 747 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 970.3797 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 971.4056 748 DCB_int_01 971.7833 Mm. 972.1004 749 DCB_int_01 972.1004 (pause 0.09) 972.1936 750 DCB_int_01 972.1936 Mm-hm. 972.4734 751 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 972.6867 Uh, /RD-SCHOOL-1/- /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Junior High School 974.4866 752 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 974.4866 (pause 1.01) 975.4938 753 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 975.4938 and 976.3051 754 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 976.3051 (pause 0.62) 976.9206 755 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 976.9206 from /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 978.6925 756 DCB_int_01 979.6519 Where's /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 980.3654 757 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 980.5239 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is 981.4742 758 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 981.4742 (pause 0.69) 982.1673 759 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 982.1673 right in the neighborhood where I grew up in. 984.4454 760 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 984.4454 (pause 0.96) 985.4095 761 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 985.4095 That's off of Bruce Place. 986.4726 762 DCB_int_01 986.7757 Is it still there? 987.3306 763 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 987.4845 Yeah. 987.7316 764 DCB_int_01 988.2818 I know /RD-SCHOOL-2/. I don't know [/RD-SCHOOL-2/.] 990.0537 765 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 989.6900 [/RD-SCHOOL-2/] is- or /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is right here. You walk up, uh, Stanton Road, and [/RD-SCHOOL-2/] is right there too, on your left hand side. 995.0699 766 DCB_int_01 993.1034 [Mm-hm.] 993.2988 767 DCB_int_01 995.4615 The problem is I never go up Stanton [Road, so that- mm.] 998.2233 768 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 997.1017 [Okay, so you] always on Alabama Avenue. 998.9342 769 DCB_int_01 999.0741 I go that way, and then I come on Mississippi. 1001.2331 770 DCB_int_01 1001.2331 (pause 0.38) 1001.6107 771 DCB_int_01 1001.6107 Like, cause I- 1002.0677 772 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1002.1097 [Okay. I know where you going- you're going down there.] Yeah. 1004.0576 773 DCB_int_01 1002.3090 [There's a Club over there at the ARC.] 1003.7825 774 DCB_int_01 1004.2301 [So I'm there-] 1004.9482 775 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1004.2628 [Okay the ARC- Yeah], [yeah. I know where the ARC is.] [Yeah.] 1006.3098 776 DCB_int_01 1005.1627 [Yeah.] 1005.8808 777 DCB_int_01 1005.8808 (pause 0.24) 1006.1233 778 DCB_int_01 1006.1233 [Yup.] 1006.3471 779 DCB_int_01 1007.1211 Um, 1007.6947 780 DCB_int_01 1007.6947 (pause 0.30) 1007.9931 781 DCB_int_01 1007.9931 okay, so let's go- 1009.0831 782 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1009.0737 [Wait then you know where- 1009.8385 783 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1010.0763 it's j- 1010.4167 784 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1010.4167 (pause 0.15) 1010.5705 785 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1010.5705 You know where /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is right? 1011.4891 786 DCB_int_01 1011.9741 I know exactly where [/RD-SCHOOL-2/ is.] 1013.4242 787 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1012.9859 [Okay, you know] that shopping center across the street from /RD-SCHOOL-2/, that's the Giant and stuff [I was talk-] 1016.2255 788 DCB_int_01 1015.9131 [That's what] you're talk- [Oh, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.] 1017.8155 789 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1016.6265 [Oh yeah yeah yeah. And then the] cr- neighborhood across the street, that's the neighborhood where I grew up at. 1020.1330 790 DCB_int_01 1020.8324 Okay. 1021.2847 791 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1021.5214 [Then-] 1021.7965 792 DCB_int_01 1021.5727 [Okay.] 1022.0110 793 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1021.9923 Yeah. Those are the new houses they built. 1023.5358 794 DCB_int_01 1023.8435 So that's on- 1024.3937 795 DCB_int_01 1024.3937 (pause 0.16) 1024.5569 796 DCB_int_01 1024.5569 that's on [Alabama Proper.] 1025.8113 797 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1025.2517 [Yeah.] 1025.6341 798 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1025.8299 Yeah. 1026.0770 799 DCB_int_01 1026.1610 Yup, yup, yup. 1026.8173 800 DCB_int_01 1026.8173 (pause 0.40) 1027.2136 801 DCB_int_01 1027.2136 Um, cause I have to go to that grocery store sometime- [When I'm over] 1029.6663 802 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1029.1161 [Yeah.] 1029.4518 803 DCB_int_01 1029.8202 at the Club. 1030.6409 804 DCB_int_01 1030.6409 (pause 0.44) 1031.0792 805 DCB_int_01 1031.0792 Okay, so now I know- 1032.0677 806 DCB_int_01 1032.0677 (pause 0.17) 1032.2356 807 DCB_int_01 1032.2356 Now I'm a little [better oriented where you are.] 1034.3374 808 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1033.1810 [You know exactly what I'm talking about.] 1034.3607 809 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1034.5099 [Fifteenth Place] is that street right there, by- across the street from the IHOP? 1038.0351 810 DCB_int_01 1034.5239 [Yes.] 1034.9762 811 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1038.9059 You see you know where the IHOP is right there? 1040.3094 812 DCB_int_01 1042.2725 Like down from the Subway [and the] Giant? 1044.2822 813 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1043.6107 [Yeah.] 1043.8859 814 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1043.8859 (pause 0.38) 1044.2682 815 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1044.2682 The IHOP is right there. 1045.2381 816 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1045.7172 Fifteenth Street is that street- n- the long street right there. 1048.7248 817 DCB_int_01 1050.5480 Now I'm gonna have to pay attention- [When I go back] over there I'm [gonna pay] attention to it. 1053.7969 818 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1051.6146 [] 1052.1742 819 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1052.1742 (pause 0.44) 1052.6172 820 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1052.6172 [Yeah.] 1053.0089 821 DCB_int_01 1054.4823 Um, 1055.0559 822 DCB_int_01 1055.0559 (pause 0.92) 1055.9745 823 DCB_int_01 1055.9745 so 1056.4314 824 DCB_int_01 1056.4314 (pause 0.25) 1056.6832 825 DCB_int_01 1056.6832 high school, 1057.3022 826 DCB_int_01 1057.3022 (pause 0.18) 1057.4794 827 DCB_int_01 1057.4794 /RD-SCHOOL-3/. Did your friends go there? 1059.2980 828 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1059.8109 No. 1060.0720 829 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1060.0720 (pause 0.63) 1060.7061 830 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1060.7061 No, [my mother-] Okay, let me tell you this story. 1062.9443 831 DCB_int_01 1060.9067 [So how was that?] 1061.6854 832 DCB_int_01 1063.0283 Okay. 1063.3127 833 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1063.6380 I was in /RD-SCHOOL-2/, right? 1064.8456 834 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1064.8456 (pause 0.26) 1065.1021 835 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1065.1021 And 1065.5917 836 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1065.5917 (pause 0.36) 1065.9508 837 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1065.9508 I- I tell my mother this story all the time. 1067.6434 838 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1067.6434 (pause 0.88) 1068.5189 839 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1068.5189 I- 1068.7298 840 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1068.7298 (pause 0.48) 1069.2136 841 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1069.2136 In eighth grade I- I had too much fun. 1070.9436 842 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1070.9436 (pause 0.34) 1071.2840 843 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1071.2840 I was- I was enjoying myself. I was with my friends all the time. We wouldn't do- I didn't take school that seriously. 1077.1907 844 DCB_int_01 1077.3119 Mm. 1077.5731 845 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1078.0440 So I got a F on my report card. 1079.8019 846 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1079.8019 (pause 1.10) 1080.9012 847 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1080.9012 And my mother said, no, you're not gonna be with your friends no more. 1083.1907 848 DCB_int_01 1083.9368 [] 1084.8554 849 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1084.2585 [Mind you], I wanted to become a /fress/- professional basketball player. I thought I was that good at the time. 1088.7770 850 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1089.3446 And I just joined uh, the basketball team, 1091.6527 851 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1091.6527 (pause 0.32) 1091.9745 852 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1091.9745 and the coach, he loved me. 1093.2474 853 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1093.2474 (pause 0.72) 1093.9690 854 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1093.9690 So I begged my mom. I said, mom, please don't- Please let me go back to school cause I wanna play on the basketball team. She would not let me go. 1099.4934 855 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1099.4934 (pause 0.57) 1100.0669 856 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1100.0669 So she said, okay, I'm'a- I'm'a take you away from your friends, 1102.8880 857 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1102.8880 (pause 0.64) 1103.5315 858 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1103.5315 because she- she didn't like the fact that I got a F on my report card. I n- I always got good grades. 1107.5451 859 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1107.5451 (pause 0.47) 1108.0160 860 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1108.0160 I always got good grades. 1109.0092 861 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1109.0092 (pause 0.62) 1109.6247 862 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1109.6247 So she said, okay, I'm'a take you away from your friends, and I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1112.3747 863 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1112.3747 (pause 0.78) 1113.1581 864 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1113.1581 So I feel like she ruined my NBA career. 1114.8927 865 DCB_int_01 1116.6214 I'm sorry. 1117.1437 866 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1117.1903 [] 1118.9855 867 DCB_int_01 1117.6193 [] 1119.0928 868 DCB_int_01 1119.9647 I could be watching you on TV. 1121.3030 869 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1121.4196 I don't think so, but in my- in- [in my head- in mine head], that's how I feel. 1125.1954 870 DCB_int_01 1123.2090 [In your mind.] 1124.2628 871 DCB_int_01 1125.2513 [Okay.] 1125.8482 872 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1125.4938 [] 1126.8600 873 DCB_int_01 1126.1326 [Well go- go.] I'm'a let you live in that fantasy. I'm not [gonna take that away from] you. 1129.4561 874 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1128.3102 [] 1129.0189 875 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1129.5867 Please don't. 1130.1416 876 DCB_int_01 1130.1835 I won't. So I coulda been watching you on [NBA TV.] 1132.2725 877 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1131.5171 [Yeah, you coulda-] Yes, you coulda have. 1133.0512 878 DCB_int_01 1133.3636 And the season starts soon. 1134.6599 879 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1134.6587 Yeah. 1134.8732 880 DCB_int_01 1135.0644 /Mm/, well we'll see what [happens.] 1136.4120 881 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1135.9410 [] 1137.3586 882 DCB_int_01 1136.7850 [Um], 1137.3446 883 DCB_int_01 1137.9881 so how was high school, then? 1139.3543 884 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1139.7553 When I went to- Okay. 1140.6133 885 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1140.6133 (pause 0.37) 1140.9852 886 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1140.9852 Have- I don't think you ever seen /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1142.7291 887 DCB_int_01 1143.2000 I haven't. 1143.7036 888 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1144.1699 It looks like a church. 1145.1072 889 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1145.1072 (pause 1.01) 1146.1190 890 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1146.1190 This school- This area right here is bigger than what my high school was. 1149.1907 891 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1149.1907 (pause 1.18) 1150.3658 892 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1150.3658 So when I first got there, I said- 1152.1330 893 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1152.1330 (pause 0.24) 1152.3708 894 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1152.3708 I said, okay Mom, where's the school? 1153.8347 895 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1153.8347 (pause 0.39) 1154.2255 896 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1154.2255 And she said, this is it. I said- I thought it was the place where you go to sign up to go [to the school.] 1157.9045 897 DCB_int_01 1157.4615 [] 1157.9605 898 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1158.7298 So I said- 1159.4000 899 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1159.4000 (pause 0.69) 1160.0903 900 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1160.0903 I said, ma, I said, what is this? So, the hallways I could literally touch 1163.9092 901 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1163.9092 (pause 0.47) 1164.3755 902 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1164.3755 the- the hallways like this. 1165.8944 903 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1165.8944 (pause 0.40) 1166.2908 904 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1166.2908 So, 1168.3797 905 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1168.3797 (pause 0.97) 1169.3543 906 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1169.3543 we- I'm walking through the hallways, and I'm just like- I felt like I was in jail. 1172.3281 907 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1172.3281 (pause 0.37) 1172.6964 908 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1172.6964 I just did not like the school. I was mad cause I wasn't with my friends. 1175.9138 909 DCB_int_01 1176.0491 Mm. 1176.2915 910 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1176.8966 So, 1177.4000 911 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1177.4000 (pause 0.29) 1177.6939 912 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1177.6939 I- 1177.8571 913 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1177.8571 (pause 0.14) 1178.0017 914 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1178.0017 I- 1178.1695 915 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1178.1695 (pause 0.44) 1178.6078 916 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1178.6078 I ain't gon- 1178.8736 917 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1178.8736 (pause 0.35) 1179.2280 918 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1179.2280 To be honest with you, I don't like to think about high school because I was so miserable throughout the whole four years. 1183.2987 919 DCB_int_01 1183.9032 You didn't develop new [friendships?] 1185.2974 920 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1184.9430 [Of course] I developed new friendships. I still have friends from there to this day. Uh, I have two very good friends that I still talk to. 1190.6585 921 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1191.4221 And the rest of the people I don't- I don't really wanna be associated with none of the people that went to that school. 1196.7518 922 DCB_int_01 1197.9537 Was it mostly black? [Was it mixed?] 1200.3084 923 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1199.2080 [Of course. I n- I- I] personally never went to school with 1202.2715 924 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1202.4114 any white people. I haven't- 1203.7019 925 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1203.7019 (pause 0.35) 1204.0563 926 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1204.0563 The first time me being introduced to white people was when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1207.5861 927 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1207.5861 (pause 0.74) 1208.3228 928 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1208.3228 So I've been 1209.1062 929 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1209.1062 (pause 1.39) 1210.4946 930 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1210.4946 around black people my whole life. 1211.7116 931 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1211.7116 (pause 0.18) 1211.8934 932 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1211.8934 I don't even know how it is to 1213.6141 933 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1213.6141 (pause 0.21) 1213.8239 934 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1213.8239 interact with white people. 1214.8999 935 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1214.8999 (pause 0.41) 1215.3055 936 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1215.3055 I mean I do now, but 1216.2894 937 DCB_int_01 1216.3407 Right. 1216.6298 938 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1216.8490 when I was- I would say when I was nineteen years old, that's my first interaction with white people. 1220.7098 939 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1220.7098 (pause 0.44) 1221.1482 940 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1221.1482 And my first initial reaction was 1223.5297 941 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1223.5297 (pause 0.77) 1224.2991 942 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1224.2991 white people really act how they act on TV. 1226.3617 943 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1226.3617 (pause 1.02) 1227.3848 944 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1227.3848 Like I thought that was crazy. 1228.5039 945 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1228.5039 (pause 0.16) 1228.6624 946 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1228.6624 Cause they really talk like that. 1230.0986 947 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1230.0986 (pause 0.99) 1231.0918 948 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1231.0918 I- I never experienced that before. 1232.6679 949 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1232.6679 (pause 1.98) 1234.6438 950 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1234.6438 So it was a- It was not- not necessarily culture shock, but it was just like, wow this is crazy. 1239.1715 951 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1239.1715 (pause 1.00) 1240.1728 952 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1240.1728 Cause I've been around black people my whole life. 1241.8701 953 DCB_int_01 1242.7514 Right. Cause 1243.4182 954 DCB_int_01 1243.4182 (pause 0.48) 1243.8938 955 DCB_int_01 1243.8938 that neighborhoods that you were predominantly black, [if not all black.] 1247.1987 956 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1246.1635 [Hm, m- m- I] don't know about predom- They all black, [not predominantly] black. 1250.3788 957 DCB_int_01 1248.8913 [/All black./] 1249.3623 958 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1250.6352 It's no- 1251.1855 959 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1251.1855 (pause 0.12) 1251.3009 960 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1251.3009 not even Spanish people. 1252.3034 961 DCB_int_01 1253.6230 Mm. 1254.4297 962 DCB_int_01 1254.4297 (pause 0.34) 1254.7701 963 DCB_int_01 1254.7701 Mkay. 1255.2177 964 DCB_int_01 1255.2177 (pause 1.53) 1256.7471 965 DCB_int_01 1256.7471 So do you feel like- 1257.9863 966 DCB_int_01 1257.9863 (pause 0.21) 1258.1915 967 DCB_int_01 1258.1915 I'm'a- 1258.5645 968 DCB_int_01 1258.5645 (pause 0.22) 1258.7883 969 DCB_int_01 1258.7883 I'm'a divert for a minute cause I do wanna ask you about college. But do you feel like, 1262.2686 970 DCB_int_01 1262.2686 (pause 0.14) 1262.4114 971 DCB_int_01 1262.4114 in thinking about the city, has it changed much, like when you [look around?] 1266.0007 972 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1265.1614 [Has it changed] [much?] 1266.4763 973 DCB_int_01 1266.2805 [I know] 1266.6722 974 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1266.8120 [] 1267.7027 975 DCB_int_01 1266.9193 [physically it's changed], but do you- Like, what changes do you see? 1270.0609 976 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1270.1868 The changes I see- I never seen a white person 1273.1571 977 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1273.1571 (pause 0.64) 1273.7959 978 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1273.7959 walking in Southeast. I never seen that before. I never thought I would see that in my life. 1277.7536 979 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1277.7536 (pause 0.71) 1278.4623 980 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1278.4623 And I'm walking around my old neighborhood, and I see a white person walking, 1281.6844 981 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1281.6844 (pause 0.27) 1281.9537 982 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1281.9537 with- with their dog, and I said, what is this? I said, that is crazy. 1285.4275 983 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1285.4275 (pause 0.55) 1285.9824 984 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1285.9824 Not necessarily saying it's a bad thing, but I just never thought I would see that 1288.6904 985 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1288.6904 (pause 0.99) 1289.6836 986 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1289.6836 in my life. 1290.2991 987 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1290.2991 (pause 0.82) 1291.1151 988 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1291.1151 So I'm- One, I'm wondering why do they feel that comfortable to live here? 1295.1427 989 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1295.1427 (pause 0.72) 1295.8608 990 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1295.8608 Cause I- me personally, I- I don't even wanna live there. 1297.9405 991 DCB_int_01 1298.7751 Mm. 1299.0502 992 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1299.1470 So I don't know /how to-/ 1299.9677 993 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1299.9677 (pause 0.17) 1300.1402 994 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1300.1402 But I- I just think it's crazy. 1301.5064 995 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1301.5064 (pause 0.35) 1301.8561 996 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1301.8561 And uh, i- t- even in Northwest, 1304.0850 997 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1304.0850 (pause 0.39) 1304.4767 998 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1304.4767 like, it's- t- to see all those white people there, it's just crazy to me. 1307.8142 999 DCB_int_01 1308.2385 Even in Northwest? 1309.1711 1000 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1309.0871 Because growing up, you never seen white people in DC. 1311.5678 1001 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1313.1707 Never. 1313.6090 1002 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1313.6090 (pause 1.62) 1315.2317 1003 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1315.2317 And I- I- I wasn't familiar with the Georgetowns or the- 1318.3687 1004 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1318.3687 (pause 0.24) 1318.6111 1005 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1318.6111 the George Washington- I weren't familiar with those areas, 1320.7188 1006 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1320.7188 (pause 0.49) 1321.2130 1007 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1321.2130 so I would just be on 1322.1410 1008 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1322.1410 (pause 0.66) 1322.8019 1009 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1322.8019 Georgia Avenue, Fourteenth Street, U Street, 1324.9282 1010 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1324.9282 (pause 0.78) 1325.7069 1011 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1325.7069 uh, 1326.0054 1012 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1326.0054 (pause 0.22) 1326.2292 1013 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1326.2292 those areas on down. 1327.4238 1014 DCB_int_01 1327.8239 Mm-hm. 1328.1783 1015 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1328.4114 So I n- I- I- To see white people in DC is crazy to me. 1331.0868 1016 DCB_int_01 1332.0800 How was U Street changed? 1333.5628 1017 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1333.5394 U Street has changed dramatically. 1335.4046 1018 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1336.1682 1336.7697 1019 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1336.7697 (pause 0.50) 1337.2733 1020 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1337.2733 [Dramatically.] 1338.0333 1021 DCB_int_01 1337.2733 [Tell me from your] perspective. 1338.7468 1022 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1338.6861 Okay. 1339.1897 1023 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1339.3716 So, 1339.8379 1024 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1339.8379 (pause 1.60) 1341.4408 1025 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1341.4408 back in- I wanna say the nineties 1343.7069 1026 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1343.7069 (pause 0.48) 1344.1872 1027 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1344.1872 because I would /gro/ to my grandmother's house all the time. 1347.1482 1028 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1347.1482 (pause 0.74) 1347.8884 1029 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1347.8884 All you would see was crackheads, heroine addicts, 1351.1571 1030 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1351.1571 (pause 0.65) 1351.8099 1031 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1351.8099 and 1352.1596 1032 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1352.1596 (pause 0.60) 1352.7565 1033 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1352.7565 dr- 1352.8824 1034 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1352.8824 (pause 0.27) 1353.1528 1035 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1353.1528 drunks 1353.7438 1036 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1353.7438 (pause 0.41) 1354.1495 1037 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1354.1495 just walking around. 1355.0728 1038 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1355.0728 (pause 0.55) 1355.6277 1039 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1355.6277 Uh, 1356.2525 1040 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1356.2525 (pause 0.70) 1356.9519 1041 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1356.9519 that's U Street, 1358.0710 1042 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1358.0710 (pause 0.09) 1358.1596 1043 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1358.1596 uh, Georgia Avenue, 1359.4839 1044 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1359.4839 (pause 0.30) 1359.7812 1045 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1359.7812 and Randolph Street, where my mother used to live. 1361.4738 1046 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1361.4738 (pause 0.30) 1361.7769 1047 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1361.7769 Beside- My mother, my grandmother- Beside my grandmother house was a actual crackhouse. 1365.3160 1048 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1365.3160 (pause 0.80) 1366.1169 1049 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1366.1169 People would go there just to smoke crack. 1367.8422 1050 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1367.8422 (pause 1.43) 1369.2737 1051 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1369.2737 How do I know it as a child? Because that's all the adults would talk about. 1372.3081 1052 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1372.3081 (pause 1.21) 1373.5158 1053 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1373.5158 [So], 1374.2618 1054 DCB_int_01 1373.6416 [Mm.] 1374.2618 1055 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1374.7374 that's- that's my memory from uh, 1376.6399 1056 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1376.6399 (pause 0.61) 1377.2449 1057 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1377.2449 from Northwest. 1378.0563 1058 DCB_int_01 1378.7417 And so how do you see it now? 1380.3178 1059 DCB_int_01 1380.3178 (pause 0.12) 1380.4343 1060 DCB_int_01 1380.4343 Like what do you see when you think about- 1382.3228 1061 DCB_int_01 1382.3228 (pause 0.15) 1382.4720 1062 DCB_int_01 1382.4720 when you think about where it was when you were a [child, but now] you go over to those parts. 1386.8027 1063 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1384.9609 [Yeah.] 1385.3525 1064 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1386.8354 I'm still in- I'm still in shock. 1388.2062 1065 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1388.2062 (pause 0.42) 1388.6259 1066 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1388.6259 I'm still shocked. E- Even when I- Cause I don't travel to the Northwest that often, 1391.7955 1067 DCB_int_01 1391.7909 Mm. 1392.0473 1068 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1392.0846 Even when I go in those areas, I'm still like, 1394.0617 1069 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1394.0617 (pause 0.39) 1394.4487 1070 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1394.4487 look at all these buildings and look at all these people. Like, to me it's like a mini New York. Like, it's just so many people. 1399.7959 1071 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1399.7959 (pause 0.92) 1400.7192 1072 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1400.7192 It's- it's like a shock like, it's just crazy to me. 1403.1054 1073 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1403.1054 (pause 0.45) 1403.5531 1074 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1403.5531 And sometimes I aks the adults, I say, how do y'all- 1405.5488 1075 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1405.5488 (pause 0.54) 1406.0897 1076 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1406.0897 how do y'all feel about 1407.2263 1077 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1407.2263 (pause 0.21) 1407.4408 1078 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1407.4408 how it looks now from when y'all was younger? 1409.6463 1079 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1409.6463 (pause 0.21) 1409.8515 1080 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1409.8515 And it's- They don't- No- I don't think nobody's a- Other- No one- No one's amazed other than me. 1413.6284 1081 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1413.6284 (pause 0.30) 1413.9257 1082 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1413.9257 So I don't understand it. 1414.7324 1083 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1414.7324 (pause 0.10) 1414.8303 1084 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1414.8303 But they just like- 1415.4505 1085 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1415.4505 (pause 0.67) 1416.1219 1086 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1416.1219 They ju- I think everybody else is still- still can't believe that they built all these buildings and- 1419.9537 1087 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1419.9537 (pause 0.89) 1420.8443 1088 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1420.8443 and how nice it look, and the white people walking around like it's nothing. 1424.0430 1089 DCB_int_01 1425.0502 [Do you] believe gentrification is real? 1426.8723 1090 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1425.1108 [But-] 1425.2834 1091 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1427.7256 I believe it's real, and I think it's- I think it's good. Me personally, I think it's a good thing. 1431.0502 1092 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1431.0502 (pause 0.62) 1431.6692 1093 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1431.6692 Because the way 1432.5505 1094 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1432.5505 (pause 0.58) 1433.1334 1095 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1433.1334 DC was is not like how it was. 1435.1991 1096 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1435.1991 (pause 1.60) 1436.8031 1097 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1436.8031 So, 1437.2974 1098 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1437.2974 (pause 0.43) 1437.7252 1099 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1437.7252 I think- I think progress is always good. 1440.0427 1100 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1440.0427 (pause 0.61) 1440.6535 1101 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1440.6535 I just wish they would cross the bridge and start gentrification over there. 1443.5911 1102 DCB_int_01 1444.5738 Mm, wards seven and eight. 1445.5484 1103 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1446.0147 Mm-hm. 1446.4483 1104 DCB_int_01 1448.0151 It's coming. 1448.5886 1105 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1449.0024 I [see.] 1449.4081 1106 DCB_int_01 1449.1190 [The fact] that you can see 1450.3873 1107 DCB_int_01 1451.5018 her walking in t- ward- 1452.8727 1108 DCB_int_01 1452.8727 (pause 0.15) 1453.0265 1109 DCB_int_01 1453.0265 in 1453.4602 1110 DCB_int_01 1453.4602 (pause 0.45) 1453.9078 1111 DCB_int_01 1453.9078 [Southeast.] 1454.8451 1112 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1454.5000 [Yeah.] 1454.8451 1113 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1455.4174 But that was one person though. 1456.5925 1114 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1456.5925 (pause 0.74) 1457.3339 1115 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1457.3339 In Northwest, you see white people everywhere. 1459.2410 1116 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1459.2410 (pause 0.62) 1459.8659 1117 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1459.8659 An- and in Northeast. 1460.7938 1118 DCB_int_01 1463.1474 I think it's coming. 1463.9494 1119 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1464.4343 I mean I'm- I- I can't wait til it comes. 1466.1829 1120 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1466.1829 (pause 0.19) 1466.3694 1121 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1466.3694 I think it'll be nice. 1467.1610 1122 DCB_int_01 1467.8558 Would you consider moving [back to the c-] Okay. 1469.8095 1123 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1468.6438 [No, I won't.] 1469.2220 1124 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1469.2220 (pause 0.48) 1469.6976 1125 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1469.6976 [] 1470.5136 1126 DCB_int_01 1470.1639 [] 1471.1571 1127 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1470.9706 [Nah], I don't wanna live in [DC.] 1472.0244 1128 DCB_int_01 1471.7213 [You're like], No, I'm good. [Okay.] So how did you- okay, let's go back to college then. 1475.5904 1129 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1472.9791 [Nah.] 1473.3102 1130 DCB_int_01 1475.8235 Um, how did you 1477.1804 1131 DCB_int_01 1477.1804 (pause 0.87) 1478.0524 1132 DCB_int_01 1478.0524 get to /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 1478.8917 1133 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1479.3568 Okay. I got to /RD-SCHOOL-2/- One of my teachers at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was affiliated or a alumni. 1485.4746 1134 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1485.4746 (pause 0.89) 1486.3640 1135 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1486.3640 Did I say it right? 1486.8303 1136 DCB_int_01 1486.9609 [Mm-hm.] 1487.3805 1137 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1487.1987 [] 1487.8655 1138 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1488.1965 Alumni of /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1489.4322 1139 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1489.4322 (pause 0.77) 1490.2016 1140 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1490.2016 So um, 1491.3067 1141 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1491.3067 (pause 0.39) 1491.6926 1142 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1491.6926 1491.7905 1143 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1491.7905 (pause 0.56) 1492.3500 1144 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1492.3500 when I took my- I- I always got good grades. I uh- I had a 1495.4275 1145 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1495.4275 (pause 0.18) 1495.6047 1146 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1495.6047 three point 1496.1969 1147 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1496.1969 (pause 0.14) 1496.3368 1148 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1496.3368 three GPA, which I was in the top ten in my class. 1498.9702 1149 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1498.9702 (pause 0.74) 1499.7116 1150 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1499.7116 I don't- I- I never test well. 1501.2457 1151 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1501.2457 (pause 0.72) 1501.9638 1152 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1501.9638 So I got 1502.4720 1153 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1502.4720 (pause 0.65) 1503.1202 1154 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1503.1202 way below average scores on my SATs. [So], every school that I applied to I didn't get in. 1507.7539 1155 DCB_int_01 1505.3432 [Mm.] 1505.6836 1156 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1508.3648 So I got accepted to Kentucky Un- No, 1510.3314 1157 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1510.3314 (pause 0.69) 1511.0261 1158 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1511.0261 K- No. 1511.6137 1159 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1511.6137 (pause 0.63) 1512.2432 1160 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1512.2432 Is it Ken- Yeah, Kentucky University. 1513.7120 1161 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1513.7120 (pause 1.14) 1514.8497 1162 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1514.8497 And I was gonna go there, but he said that uh, 1517.3059 1163 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1517.3059 (pause 0.18) 1517.4878 1164 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1517.4878 he can get me in the summer program at /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 1519.8938 1165 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1519.8938 (pause 0.68) 1520.5746 1166 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1520.5746 to take uh, ten credits 1522.1635 1167 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1522.1635 (pause 0.28) 1522.4479 1168 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1522.4479 um, in the- during the summer time. So I said, that's cool. 1524.6395 1169 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1524.6395 (pause 0.55) 1525.1944 1170 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1525.1944 So I was gonna d- take those ten credits and then go to Kentucky, 1527.9454 1171 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1527.9454 (pause 0.86) 1528.8023 1172 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1528.8023 but when I got there, I loved it. 1530.4437 1173 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1530.4437 (pause 0.67) 1531.1105 1174 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1531.1105 I loved the people that I was with, so I decided to stay. 1533.6424 1175 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1533.6424 (pause 0.85) 1534.4899 1176 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1534.4899 Now, 1534.8769 1177 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1534.8769 (pause 2.36) 1537.2364 1178 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1537.2364 when I got there- 1538.3135 1179 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1538.3135 (pause 0.18) 1538.4953 1180 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1538.4953 I'm- I'm not 1539.3393 1181 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1539.3393 (pause 0.71) 1540.0469 1182 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1540.0469 the- 1540.6904 1183 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1540.6904 (pause 0.62) 1541.3152 1184 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1541.3152 I'm not a person who wants to be hood or who wants to be 1544.6679 1185 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1544.6679 (pause 0.63) 1545.3020 1186 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1545.3020 representing 1545.9309 1187 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1545.9309 (pause 0.20) 1546.1309 1188 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1546.1309 the hood or nothing like that. When I got to college, I wanted to be in college. 1549.2130 1189 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1549.2130 (pause 0.64) 1549.8519 1190 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1549.8519 So when I got to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 1550.9476 1191 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1550.9476 (pause 0.48) 1551.4314 1192 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1551.4314 it was a culture shock for me. 1552.6018 1193 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1552.6018 (pause 1.63) 1554.2338 1194 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1554.2338 All I know is DC. 1555.2690 1195 DCB_int_01 1556.0197 Mm. 1556.1876 1196 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1556.2902 All I knew was DC at the time. 1557.4372 1197 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1557.4372 (pause 0.52) 1557.9583 1198 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1557.9583 So when I got to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I met people from 1559.7909 1199 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1559.7909 (pause 0.27) 1560.0566 1200 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1560.0566 Philly, New Jersey, New York, 1562.0477 1201 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1562.0477 (pause 0.47) 1562.5187 1202 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1562.5187 and Baltimore. 1563.3160 1203 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1563.3160 (pause 1.76) 1565.0774 1204 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1565.0774 So, t- th- these people, they talk different. They don't dress like we dress. They don't 1569.8744 1205 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1569.8744 (pause 0.22) 1570.0936 1206 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1570.0936 talk like- I mean they don't- 1571.4505 1207 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1571.4505 (pause 0.30) 1571.7536 1208 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1571.7536 They don't have the same mindset that we have. 1573.4415 1209 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1573.4415 (pause 0.36) 1573.8052 1210 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1573.8052 And a lot of- a lot of the people there, 1575.9444 1211 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1575.9444 (pause 0.15) 1576.0982 1212 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1576.0982 majority of the people there- 1577.1147 1213 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1577.1147 (pause 0.83) 1577.9401 1214 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1577.9401 Their focus was on where they- where they was from. 1580.2435 1215 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1580.2435 (pause 1.28) 1581.5247 1216 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1581.5247 So, I'm from New York, I'm better than you. I'm from Philly, I'm better than you. 1585.0405 1217 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1585.0405 (pause 0.34) 1585.3809 1218 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1585.3809 You- you don't go harder than me. 1586.7425 1219 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1586.7425 (pause 0.66) 1587.4035 1220 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1587.4035 I didn't like that 1588.1355 1221 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1588.1355 (pause 0.42) 1588.5599 1222 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1588.5599 cause I'm like, okay. I already left DC where that- that is going on. I don't wanna deal with this anymore. 1592.8451 1223 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1592.8451 (pause 0.66) 1593.5014 1224 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1593.5014 So the teachers 1594.9562 1225 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1594.9562 (pause 0.14) 1595.1008 1226 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1595.1008 was excellent though. 1596.1219 1227 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1596.1219 (pause 0.41) 1596.5276 1228 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1596.5276 The teachers, everybody there was good. The staff, everybody was good. 1599.9257 1229 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1599.9257 (pause 0.48) 1600.4106 1230 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1600.4106 I just couldn't take the student body. 1601.7302 1231 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1601.7302 (pause 1.24) 1602.9706 1232 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1602.9706 So my first year there, I was miserable. 1604.7705 1233 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1604.7705 (pause 2.33) 1607.0961 1234 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1607.0961 So I decided to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ because I wanted to experience something different. 1610.6259 1235 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1610.6259 (pause 1.20) 1611.8278 1236 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1611.8278 I wanted to know what it was like to go to school around white people and be around white people, and I wanted- 1615.4415 1237 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1615.4415 (pause 0.25) 1615.6933 1238 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1615.6933 And it was in the mountains, so I wanted somewhere where I could study and h- it didn't have any distractions. 1619.9074 1239 DCB_int_01 1621.5581 And how did you get to- Like how did you ch- 1624.0283 1240 DCB_int_01 1624.0283 (pause 0.14) 1624.1682 1241 DCB_int_01 1624.1682 from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, like what made you say, oh, I'm gonna go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1627.9702 1242 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1627.9358 1628.0430 1243 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1628.7098 I'm not sure to be truthfully honest with you. I don't know where that connection came from, but I know that me and my friends went on a visit there. 1634.8357 1244 DCB_int_01 1635.2321 Mm. 1635.4233 1245 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1635.7998 My friends from uh, college. No, f- my friends from high school. 1638.5043 1246 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1638.5043 (pause 0.76) 1639.2643 1247 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1639.2643 And I liked it. 1640.1596 1248 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1640.1596 (pause 0.17) 1640.3275 1249 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1640.3275 I really liked it. I really liked 1641.6550 1250 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1641.6550 (pause 0.24) 1641.8993 1251 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1641.8993 the atmosphere. I liked the- the people. I liked the buildings. 1645.1431 1252 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1645.1431 (pause 0.57) 1645.7120 1253 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1645.7120 Cause /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was, you know, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was started in eighteen fifty or something like that. I forgot when they started, but it was a hundred and fifty years old, so they had old buildings. 1652.4067 1254 DCB_int_01 1652.6352 Mm. 1652.9243 1255 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1653.1668 Not that that matters anyway, but I just liked the buildings at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ cause they were so new. 1656.7841 1256 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1656.7841 (pause 0.90) 1657.6887 1257 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1657.6887 So I said, okay, I wanna go here. So I applied, and I got accepted, and then I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1661.1800 1258 DCB_int_01 1661.7349 After your first year at [/RD-SCHOOL-2/.] 1662.9855 1259 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1662.8727 [Yeah.] 1663.1431 1260 DCB_int_01 1663.1664 So you finished your freshman year [out], 1664.5886 1261 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1664.3881 [Yeah.] 1664.6352 1262 DCB_int_01 1664.7238 and then you started there? 1665.8276 1263 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1665.8278 Yeah. 1666.0656 1264 DCB_int_01 1666.1076 So tell me how was that experience? When you moved from- 1669.1851 1265 DCB_int_01 1669.1851 (pause 0.27) 1669.4555 1266 DCB_int_01 1669.4555 1669.8052 1267 DCB_int_01 1669.8052 (pause 0.50) 1670.3042 1268 DCB_int_01 1670.3042 Was it another culture shock? 1671.4734 1269 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1672.8256 I wouldn't say a shock. I would say it was- Because they- 1675.8659 1270 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1675.8659 (pause 0.28) 1676.1503 1271 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1676.1503 at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 1677.0036 1272 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1677.0036 (pause 0.70) 1677.7065 1273 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1677.7065 it was- I'm not gonna say segregated, but you had your black people who hung together, 1681.3110 1274 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1681.3110 (pause 0.52) 1681.8285 1275 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1681.8285 and the white people who hung together. 1683.3440 1276 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1683.3440 (pause 0.70) 1684.0423 1277 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1684.0423 So you had- they had black parties and- I wouldn't necessarily say they had white parties, but they had black parties. 1688.5746 1278 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1688.5746 (pause 0.94) 1689.5154 1279 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1689.5154 And the black 1690.2288 1280 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1690.2288 (pause 0.19) 1690.4153 1281 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1690.4153 people would hang together. 1691.2546 1282 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1691.2546 (pause 0.25) 1691.5018 1283 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1691.5018 So, 1691.8515 1284 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1691.8515 (pause 0.48) 1692.3364 1285 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1692.3364 it w- you would rarely see 1693.8845 1286 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1693.8845 (pause 0.21) 1694.0990 1287 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1694.0990 black and white people 1695.2181 1288 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1695.2181 (pause 0.82) 1696.0423 1289 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1696.0423 hanging together, but 1697.0634 1290 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1697.0634 (pause 0.88) 1697.9401 1291 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1697.9401 the reason why I would talk to white people- I was- Because of my major. 1701.3712 1292 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1701.3712 (pause 0.28) 1701.6553 1293 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1701.6553 I m- I majored in Mechanical Engineering. 1703.3059 1294 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1703.3059 (pause 0.52) 1703.8282 1295 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1703.8282 So those though- Those are the people I would see in my classes. So that's how I w- I was able to introduce, to have conversations with them, and to 1709.6370 1296 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1709.6370 (pause 0.48) 1710.1219 1297 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1710.1219 go to parties that they would go to and stuff like that, so 1712.5886 1298 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1712.5886 (pause 0.53) 1713.1202 1299 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1713.1202 my experience at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was good. I liked it. 1715.7862 1300 DCB_int_01 1716.3131 What social activities did you do? 1717.7819 1301 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1718.3275 Um, 1718.8684 1302 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1718.8684 (pause 1.42) 1720.2894 1303 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1720.2894 as far as [spo-] 1721.4411 1304 DCB_int_01 1721.0634 [Like outside] of the classroom. 1722.3457 1305 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1722.5369 Uh, I'm- 1723.1338 1306 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1723.1338 (pause 0.09) 1723.2270 1307 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1723.2270 I'm a sports fanatic. I played basketball all the time. I would go to the gym. 1726.4526 1308 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1726.4526 (pause 0.73) 1727.1800 1309 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1727.1800 Um, 1727.8328 1310 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1727.8328 (pause 0.17) 1728.0054 1311 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1728.0054 I wasn't a party person, but I did go to some of the parties. 1730.8917 1312 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1730.8917 (pause 0.74) 1731.6319 1313 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1731.6319 I didn't drink until I got out of college. 1733.5904 1314 DCB_int_01 1734.0660 Mm. 1734.4390 1315 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1734.4437 1734.9146 1316 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1734.9146 (pause 0.78) 1735.6933 1317 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1735.6933 So, 1736.1783 1318 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1736.1783 (pause 0.12) 1736.2995 1319 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1736.2995 but um, 1736.9780 1320 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1736.9780 (pause 0.19) 1737.1656 1321 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1737.1656 I- That's about it. Uh, I was- Of course, I'm into the females, so I would go 1740.9752 1322 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1740.9752 (pause 0.24) 1741.2130 1323 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1741.2130 to the female's dorm rooms and stuff like that, so. 1743.4326 1324 DCB_int_01 1744.0283 Did you um, pledge? 1745.3292 1325 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1745.7442 No, I did not pledge. 1746.7328 1326 DCB_int_01 1747.1571 Did y'all have- I don't- I don't /RD-SCHOOL-2/. [Did they have fraternities] and was it- was Greek life [big?] 1751.8343 1327 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1748.9139 [Yeah, they have it. Yeah.] 1749.9117 1328 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1749.9117 (pause 1.52) 1751.4272 1329 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1751.4272 [Yeah.] 1751.7769 1330 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1751.9820 Not- no, it wasn't big. 1753.1571 1331 DCB_int_01 1753.2690 Uh-huh. 1753.6467 1332 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1753.6840 It was- It was i- It was there, it wasn't big. 1755.3999 1333 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1755.3999 (pause 0.35) 1755.7485 1334 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1755.7485 At /RD-SCHOOL-2/ it was extremely big. 1757.9401 1335 DCB_int_01 1758.0067 [Right. I mean] 1759.1851 1336 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1758.0520 [] 1758.7374 1337 DCB_int_01 1759.6887 you had a [black-] 1760.4907 1338 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1760.4301 [Yeah] yeah yeah, it was- it was even /ran/ the school, so. But was I ever interested? 1764.4343 1339 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1765.1384 I wouldn't- 1765.8379 1340 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1765.8379 (pause 0.68) 1766.5140 1341 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1766.5140 I thought about it, but no, I was never interested in joining Greek. 1769.5027 1342 DCB_int_01 1769.6883 Alpha. 1770.0380 1343 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1770.9473 1771.5115 1344 DCB_int_01 1771.8285 [I don't know.] 1772.3694 1345 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1771.9544 [That's-] 1772.2762 1346 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1772.5373 that's the one I w- I consider, but n- I [said nah.] 1775.1847 1347 DCB_int_01 1774.6624 [I mean you just] look like, if I had to cons- If I had to 1777.5814 1348 DCB_int_01 1777.9032 say, mm, he's a- 1779.1621 1349 DCB_int_01 1779.1621 (pause 0.24) 1779.4035 1350 DCB_int_01 1779.4035 I would say, [Alpha.] 1780.4060 1351 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1779.9304 [Yeah.] 1780.1868 1352 DCB_int_01 1780.9142 Mm-hm. 1781.2919 1353 DCB_int_01 1781.2919 (pause 0.11) 1781.3992 1354 DCB_int_01 1781.3992 Maybe Iota. 1782.2898 1355 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1783.2410 I don't even know what that is. 1784.3834 1356 DCB_int_01 1784.9756 Oh. 1785.3253 1357 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1785.4547 1786.2708 1358 DCB_int_01 1786.2288 Mkay, well, 1786.7930 1359 DCB_int_01 1786.9609 nevermind then. 1787.7163 1360 DCB_int_01 1787.7163 (pause 0.60) 1788.3131 1361 DCB_int_01 1788.3131 Um, 1788.9239 1362 DCB_int_01 1788.9239 (pause 0.54) 1789.4602 1363 DCB_int_01 1789.4602 so 1790.0990 1364 DCB_int_01 1790.0990 (pause 0.28) 1790.3834 1365 DCB_int_01 1790.3834 when you say that people 1791.6180 1366 DCB_int_01 1791.6180 (pause 0.33) 1791.9444 1367 DCB_int_01 1791.9444 dress different, they talk different, they had a different mindset. 1794.9799 1368 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1795.3576 Okay. 1795.7213 1369 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1795.7213 (pause 0.12) 1795.8379 1370 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1795.8379 When I went to- it was two thousand six when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1798.8210 1371 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1798.8210 (pause 0.71) 1799.5297 1372 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1799.5297 And I would wear th- I had on my New Balance cause that's you know that's- I don't know if you know but that's all we do now- That's all we wear. 1804.6485 1373 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1804.6485 (pause 1.11) 1805.7629 1374 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1805.7629 So, 1806.3644 1375 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1806.3644 (pause 0.34) 1806.7001 1376 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1806.7001 the dude said- 1807.5907 1377 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1807.5907 (pause 0.11) 1807.6980 1378 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1807.6980 he said, What are those? I said, Uh, these are New Balance. These are nine nine- I think at the time it was nine nine o- 1811.2033 1379 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1811.2033 (pause 0.14) 1811.3479 1380 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1811.3479 nine- nine nine ones at the time. 1813.6467 1381 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1813.6467 (pause 0.95) 1814.5979 1382 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1814.5979 And, I said, These nine nine ones. 1816.0936 1383 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1816.0936 (pause 0.21) 1816.2987 1384 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1816.2987 And he said, You got on old people shoes? 1817.8468 1385 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1817.8468 (pause 0.29) 1818.1406 1386 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1818.1406 And I said, No. I said, These are- I said, These are nine nine ones. I said, Do you know how much these cost? 1821.5445 1387 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1821.5445 (pause 0.60) 1822.1402 1388 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1822.1402 And they couldn't believe they was over a hundred dollars. They thought I payed like fifty or som- fifty dollars or something for 'em. 1826.3140 1389 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1826.3140 (pause 0.71) 1827.0223 1390 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1827.0223 And he was like, Oh, okay. 1828.0050 1391 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1828.0050 (pause 0.21) 1828.2195 1392 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1828.2195 So 1828.5832 1393 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1828.5832 (pause 0.15) 1828.7324 1394 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1828.7324 the next- When we got to school in the- in the fall, I started seeing people wearing New- New Balances. 1833.7532 1395 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1833.7532 (pause 0.59) 1834.3407 1396 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1834.3407 [] 1835.1241 1397 DCB_int_01 1834.7557 [] 1835.8701 1398 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1836.1079 This is crazy. But yeah, they- At the time, they didn't like New Balance. They thought Nike boots was wack. 1840.5878 1399 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1840.5878 (pause 0.61) 1841.1987 1400 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1841.1987 They didn't- They didn't- U- My clothes actually fit. 1843.4136 1401 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1843.4136 (pause 0.35) 1843.7679 1402 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1843.7679 At the time, they were still wearing baggy clothes, or they didn't like that my clothes fit, so. 1847.1241 1403 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1847.1241 (pause 0.71) 1847.8375 1404 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1847.8375 Uh, I would say certain things, like um, 1850.0897 1405 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1850.0897 (pause 1.71) 1851.7998 1406 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1851.7998 like carry out. 1852.6298 1407 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1852.6298 (pause 0.35) 1852.9749 1408 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1852.9749 I would say, Let's go to the carry out. They said, What's that? 1854.7654 1409 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1854.7654 (pause 0.72) 1855.4835 1410 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1855.4835 They- I said, The carry out. They say, Uh, Chinese food. They said, You mean the Chinese- 1859.1614 1411 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1859.1614 (pause 0.19) 1859.3479 1412 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1859.3479 Chinese f- 1859.8375 1413 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1859.8375 (pause 0.15) 1859.9867 1414 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1859.9867 uh- 1860.3831 1415 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1860.3831 (pause 0.72) 1861.1011 1416 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1861.1011 Chinese place? I said, No, it's called a carry out. 1862.6819 1417 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1862.6819 (pause 0.95) 1863.6366 1418 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1863.6366 So yeah, stuff like that. 1865.0075 1419 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1865.0075 (pause 0.41) 1865.4178 1420 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1865.4178 Um, 1866.0193 1421 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1866.0193 (pause 1.49) 1867.5068 1422 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1867.5068 what was different for me for them? 1869.3580 1423 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1869.3580 (pause 0.47) 1869.8231 1424 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1869.8231 Like the way Philly people talk. Like I thought it was funny. 1872.4204 1425 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1872.4204 (pause 0.54) 1872.9612 1426 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1872.9612 They say back or they say uh- 1875.0316 1427 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1875.0316 (pause 0.52) 1875.5527 1428 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1875.5527 they say jawn. 1876.4386 1429 DCB_int_01 1878.6115 And do you have a word for that too? 1879.9032 1430 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1880.0664 Joint. 1880.5187 1431 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1880.5187 (pause 0.45) 1880.9698 1432 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1880.9698 They say jawn. We say joint. 1882.1868 1433 DCB_int_01 1882.4526 Mm. 1882.8490 1434 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1882.9329 Yeah. 1883.3199 1435 DCB_int_01 1884.3551 What- 1884.8120 1436 DCB_int_01 1884.8120 (pause 0.63) 1885.4462 1437 DCB_int_01 1885.4462 When you say they think differently, what do you mean? 1887.6180 1438 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1888.4759 [ I wish I] could give you an example. I got- I will have to think about that one. But their mentality from us is extremely different. 1894.8536 1439 DCB_int_01 1888.4759 [/Like can you give me an exam-/] 1889.7489 1440 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1897.3809 I know New York 1898.0057 1441 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1898.0057 (pause 0.09) 1898.0990 1442 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1898.0990 f- New York didn't e- What I f- uh, thought about the New York people, they a little bit more fast pace. Like they- 1902.9473 1443 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1902.9473 (pause 1.14) 1904.0897 1444 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1904.0897 they're- 1904.6958 1445 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1904.6958 (pause 0.47) 1905.1610 1446 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1905.1610 they can talk a good game. Like, they're- they're- they are real hustlers. Like, 1908.4483 1447 DCB_int_01 1908.5089 1909.3809 1448 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1909.3949 uh, Ph- 1910.1923 1449 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1910.1923 (pause 0.42) 1910.6119 1450 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1910.6119 Ph- What I thought from Philly people, they- 1912.1962 1451 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1912.1962 (pause 1.94) 1914.1406 1452 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1914.1406 i- 1914.3691 1453 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1914.3691 (pause 1.28) 1915.6514 1454 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1915.6514 if you wasn't hard, or if you didn't act street like, you wasn't accepted. 1919.0728 1455 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1919.0728 (pause 1.31) 1920.3877 1456 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1920.3877 Um, 1921.0312 1457 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1921.0312 (pause 0.29) 1921.3203 1458 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1921.3203 the way they dress was a lot different. 1922.9103 1459 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1922.9103 (pause 0.24) 1923.1470 1460 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1923.1470 They wear a lot of uh, 1924.2754 1461 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1924.2754 (pause 0.48) 1924.7510 1462 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1924.7510 Dickies, 1925.3619 1463 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1925.3619 (pause 0.62) 1925.9774 1464 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1925.9774 like Dickie pants and stuff like that (laughing). 1927.8752 1465 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1927.8752 (pause 1.23) 1929.1015 1466 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1929.1015 Um, 1929.7590 1467 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1929.7590 (pause 0.42) 1930.1775 1468 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1930.1775 New Jersey people, they was cool. 1931.7629 1469 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1931.7629 (pause 0.56) 1932.3271 1470 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1932.3271 They- they kind of- They kind of remind me of the Philly people I guess cause t- 1935.6040 1471 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1935.6040 (pause 0.25) 1935.8558 1472 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1935.8558 /probably- t-/ 1936.4246 1473 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1936.4246 (pause 0.10) 1936.5226 1474 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1936.5226 probably- they probably was close. 1937.6883 1475 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1937.6883 (pause 1.00) 1938.6861 1476 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1938.6861 Uh, Baltimore people- 1939.7586 1477 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1939.7586 (pause 0.18) 1939.9405 1478 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1939.9405 I don't know if you know, but DC and Baltimore people don't get along that well. 1943.3665 1479 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1943.3665 (pause 0.21) 1943.5764 1480 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1943.5764 I don't- 1943.9028 1481 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1943.9028 (pause 0.83) 1944.7328 1482 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1944.7328 I don't know where it came from- I don't know why, but I- I just don't personally like people from Baltimore. 1949.4691 1483 DCB_int_01 1949.5297 Can you tell me like, what it's about? I- 1952.1130 1484 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1952.1270 I have no idea- It just- it just g- I guess, if you grew up in the area, you just- 1956.0566 1485 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1956.0566 (pause 0.32) 1956.3737 1486 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1956.3737 you just grew up like that. We always- 1958.0477 1487 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1958.0477 (pause 0.42) 1958.4674 1488 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1958.4674 When I grew up, 1959.1202 1489 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1959.1202 (pause 0.15) 1959.2729 1490 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1959.2729 when we think of Baltimore people, we say bamas, Baltimore bamas. That's all we- 1962.4950 1491 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1962.4950 (pause 0.74) 1963.2364 1492 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1963.2364 I don't know why. 1963.9544 1493 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1963.9544 (pause 0.34) 1964.2948 1494 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1964.2948 I just know we don't like Baltimore for some reason. 1966.7277 1495 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1966.7277 (pause 0.94) 1967.6696 1496 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1967.6696 [I have no i-] 1968.1825 1497 DCB_int_01 1967.7396 [And they don't] like DC [people?] 1969.1711 1498 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1968.8260 [No.] Like, you would never see a p- somebody from Baltimore in DC, 1971.8371 1499 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1972.2101 and you never see somebody from DC in Baltimore. 1974.3734 1500 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1974.3734 (pause 0.19) 1974.5649 1501 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1974.5649 It just doesn't go. 1975.3623 1502 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1975.3623 (pause 0.69) 1976.0570 1503 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1976.0570 Like I've been to Baltimore probably three times in my life. 1978.2568 1504 DCB_int_01 1980.4250 You're not the first person I heard say that, and I- 1982.3694 1505 DCB_int_01 1982.3694 (pause 0.24) 1982.6073 1506 DCB_int_01 1982.6073 but nobody really [knows what the beef is about, right?] Like we can say, you know, we know there's like, 1987.5427 1507 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1983.4967 [Know why. Yeah.] 1985.2220 1508 DCB_int_01 1988.1037 Woodland Terrace, 1989.2041 1509 DCB_int_01 1989.2041 (pause 0.24) 1989.4408 1510 DCB_int_01 1989.4408 Parkland, like, 1990.7417 1511 DCB_int_01 1990.7417 (pause 0.39) 1991.1334 1512 DCB_int_01 1991.1334 Berry Farms. We know they got beef. That's just neighborhood turf [beef.] 1994.1943 1513 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 1993.8565 [Yeah.] 1994.1783 1514 DCB_int_01 1994.7145 But 1994.9989 1515 DCB_int_01 1994.9989 (pause 0.62) 1995.6180 1516 DCB_int_01 1995.6180 DC and Baltimore are like, 1996.7930 1517 DCB_int_01 1996.7930 (pause 0.22) 1997.0168 1518 DCB_int_01 1997.0168 forty five minutes to an hour apart. 1998.7048 1519 DCB_int_01 1998.7048 (pause 0.35) 1999.0592 1520 DCB_int_01 1999.0592 I don't know why they got beef. 2000.0524 1521 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2000.3415 I have no idea where it comes from. 2001.8418 1522 DCB_int_01 2003.2127 Yeah, I don't either. 2004.1639 1523 DCB_int_01 2004.1639 (pause 0.38) 2004.5463 1524 DCB_int_01 2004.5463 If you ever find out, [let me know.] 2006.0244 1525 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2005.4369 [ No], if you ever find out, let me [know. ] 2008.3034 1526 DCB_int_01 2006.8264 [Let you know? ] 2008.3081 1527 DCB_int_01 2008.6718 Um, 2009.2080 1528 DCB_int_01 2009.2080 (pause 1.14) 2010.3504 1529 DCB_int_01 2010.3504 so thinking about 2011.4648 1530 DCB_int_01 2011.4648 (pause 1.35) 2012.8124 1531 DCB_int_01 2012.8124 kind of this- You talk about if you go to Baltimore - It's forty five minutes. You've been there three times. 2016.2525 1532 DCB_int_01 2016.2525 (pause 0.49) 2016.7421 1533 DCB_int_01 2016.7421 Think about DC. 2017.6141 1534 DCB_int_01 2017.6141 (pause 0.21) 2017.8285 1535 DCB_int_01 2017.8285 DC is the nation's capital. So tourist-y place. 2021.1101 1536 DCB_int_01 2021.1101 (pause 0.52) 2021.6323 1537 DCB_int_01 2021.6323 Have you ever been a tourist in your town? 2023.6467 1538 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2024.0990 I haven't, when I got older- Uh, 2025.7578 1539 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2025.7578 (pause 0.30) 2026.0563 1540 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2026.0563 I- I told my friend when I was in school in /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I said, I've never seen the White House before. 2029.7539 1541 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2029.7539 (pause 0.93) 2030.6865 1542 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2030.6865 I n- d- I never seen the White- I- I didn't see the White House until I would say, I was twenty two years old. 2035.4835 1543 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2035.4835 (pause 1.27) 2036.7553 1544 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2036.7553 I n- I didn- I didn't know where it was at. 2038.4200 1545 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2038.4200 (pause 0.26) 2038.6811 1546 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2038.6811 I didn't know how to find it. 2039.9914 1547 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2039.9914 (pause 0.92) 2040.9100 1548 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2040.9100 So, that's- that lets you know how much- 2042.8497 1549 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2042.8497 (pause 1.13) 2043.9817 1550 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2043.9817 I don't- it's- it's not that we can't go to this, but 2046.3737 1551 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2046.3737 (pause 0.14) 2046.5089 1552 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2046.5089 for some reason our mentality is 2048.1783 1553 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2048.1783 (pause 0.42) 2048.5979 1554 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2048.5979 just in this one area. 2049.7497 1555 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2049.7497 (pause 0.25) 2049.9956 1556 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2049.9956 Like it was rare- 2050.6997 1557 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2050.6997 (pause 0.22) 2050.9236 1558 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2050.9236 Only reason why I crossed that bridge is to go to my grandmother's house. 2053.8332 1559 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2053.8332 (pause 0.50) 2054.3368 1560 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2054.3368 Other than that, I will always be in Southeast. 2056.0329 1561 DCB_int_01 2057.8328 Have you done any of the other stuff? Like the monuments, 2061.0223 1562 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2061.6040 Not [until I got older], no. 2063.0728 1563 DCB_int_01 2061.9490 [the capitol-] 2062.9422 1564 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2063.1754 Oh yeah! Oh yeah, we would take school trips there. 2065.0219 1565 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2065.0219 (pause 0.13) 2065.1524 1566 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2065.1524 Yeah. 2065.3669 1567 DCB_int_01 2065.7353 [/Well, yeah/] 2066.0710 1568 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2065.7400 [We would], yeah, as a uh- in elementary school. 2067.6657 1569 DCB_int_01 2068.2474 But what made you as an adult say, You know what? I need to go [be a tourist.] 2071.5628 1570 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2070.7374 [I mean I just got older.] I just- I- I'm a- I'm a fan of history, so I wanted to 2075.2360 1571 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2076.0147 explore these museums and these monuments and 2078.4534 1572 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2078.4534 (pause 0.26) 2078.7098 1573 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2078.7098 so I just got older, and I just wanted to see the stuff. 2081.0075 1574 DCB_int_01 2081.0634 Do you have a favorite one? 2081.8701 1575 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2083.3949 Well of course it would have to be Martin Luther King. 2085.5119 1576 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2085.5119 (pause 1.44) 2086.9469 1577 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2086.9469 2087.5251 1578 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2087.5251 (pause 0.43) 2087.9541 1579 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2087.9541 I love Martin Luther King, but uh, other than that um, 2090.3741 1580 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2090.3741 (pause 0.46) 2090.8311 1581 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2090.8311 I'm a big- I'm a big uh, Lincoln fan. 2092.6065 1582 DCB_int_01 2093.3185 Mm. 2093.7062 1583 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2093.8251 Big Abraham Lincoln fan. I s- I studied Abraham Lincoln, so it's- it's nothing you can aks me that I wouldn't be an answer. 2099.2480 1584 DCB_int_01 2100.2122 Actually I [wouldn't be able to ask you much cause I'm] not very knowledgable. 2103.0231 1585 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2100.5294 [ 2101.7630 1586 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2103.0495 Yeah, I s- I study history. Like, I- I love history. 2105.5960 1587 DCB_int_01 2106.1461 So how'd you g- become- How did you get into mechanical engineering? 2109.3094 1588 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2109.4592 Okay. 2109.7676 1589 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2109.7676 (pause 0.28) 2110.0496 1590 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2110.0496 That's a good question. 2110.9836 1591 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2110.9836 (pause 0.29) 2111.2700 1592 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2111.2700 When I was thirteen years old, I would watch the 2113.7190 1593 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2113.7190 (pause 0.61) 2114.3314 1594 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2114.3314 History Channel, Discovery Channel all the time. 2116.1201 1595 DCB_int_01 2116.1289 Mm-hm. 2116.5166 1596 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2116.6576 And they had this show called uh- 2118.3758 1597 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2118.3758 (pause 0.51) 2118.8863 1598 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2118.8863 I forgot. Majoring in Engineering or something? 2120.9394 1599 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2120.9394 (pause 0.42) 2121.3623 1600 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2121.3623 And they would always show how 2122.7589 1601 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2122.7589 (pause 0.11) 2122.8691 1602 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2122.8691 these people build these big tall buildings and stuff like that. 2125.6220 1603 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2125.6220 (pause 0.37) 2125.9877 1604 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2125.9877 So initially I wanted to become a civil engineer, 2128.0628 1605 DCB_int_01 2128.3360 Mm-hm. 2128.6796 1606 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2128.9748 and then, as I got older, I got 2130.4325 1607 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2130.4325 (pause 0.13) 2130.5603 1608 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2130.5603 um, 2131.1330 1609 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2131.1330 (pause 0.48) 2131.6132 1610 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2131.6132 introduced to cars, and I started to become a cars fan. 2133.9042 1611 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2133.9042 (pause 0.45) 2134.3580 1612 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2134.3580 So I wanted to design engines. 2135.7899 1613 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2135.7899 (pause 0.45) 2136.2386 1614 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2136.2386 So that's when- that's where mechanical engineering came from. 2138.3886 1615 DCB_int_01 2139.6134 And now you don't do any of that. 2141.1321 1616 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2141.2480 2141.4639 1617 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2141.4639 (pause 0.26) 2141.7194 1618 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2141.7194 Well, 2142.2921 1619 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2142.2921 (pause 1.62) 2143.9084 1620 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2143.9084 When I was in /RD-SCHOOL-2/- 2145.1663 1621 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2145.1663 (pause 0.43) 2145.6002 1622 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2145.6002 Actually when I started uh, 2147.4242 1623 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2147.4242 (pause 0.46) 2147.8824 1624 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2147.8824 /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 2148.4155 1625 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2148.4155 (pause 0.26) 2148.6748 1626 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2148.6748 I had to take- My- my major was /calcul-/ physics because they didn't have mechanical engineering there. 2152.9131 1627 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2152.9131 (pause 0.71) 2153.6225 1628 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2153.6225 So, I started to get into 2155.6881 1629 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2155.6881 (pause 1.00) 2156.6838 1630 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2156.6838 calculus. 2157.5782 1631 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2157.5782 (pause 0.82) 2158.3933 1632 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2158.3933 Um, 2159.1202 1633 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2159.1202 (pause 0.53) 2159.6489 1634 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2159.6489 I had chemistry before, but I- my d- instructor wasn't good. 2162.5296 1635 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2162.5296 (pause 0.39) 2162.9173 1636 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2162.9173 Ph- uh, physics, 2164.2258 1637 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2164.2258 (pause 0.86) 2165.0894 1638 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2165.0894 and uh, all these /sinuses/- all these sciences and math. 2167.7851 1639 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2167.7851 (pause 0.18) 2167.9613 1640 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2167.9613 I was always good at math in high school. 2169.5033 1641 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2169.5033 (pause 0.26) 2169.7676 1642 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2169.7676 [That's why] I didn't have issues with taking it. 2171.2436 1643 DCB_int_01 2169.7897 [Mm.] 2170.0628 1644 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2171.6747 But when I got to 2172.5559 1645 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2172.5559 (pause 0.21) 2172.7629 1646 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2172.7629 calculus, it- 2173.2387 1647 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2173.2387 (pause 0.22) 2173.4590 1648 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2173.4590 my school didn't offer calculus. The highest math we had was algebra two. 2176.8735 1649 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2176.8735 (pause 1.34) 2178.2166 1650 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2178.2166 So when I got to- 2178.9656 1651 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2178.9656 (pause 0.19) 2179.1506 1652 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2179.1506 to school, 2179.8732 1653 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2179.8732 (pause 0.21) 2180.0802 1654 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2180.0802 I wasn't passing these classes or getting these good grades cause I- I didn't- I never seen it before. I didn't understand it. 2184.8687 1655 DCB_int_01 2184.9832 Mm. 2185.2740 1656 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2185.5780 I was never taught it. 2186.3358 1657 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2186.3358 (pause 1.12) 2187.4592 1658 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2187.4592 So when I got to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I had to ta- I took um, 2190.5559 1659 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2190.5559 (pause 1.52) 2192.0714 1660 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2192.0714 Calculus three times, 2193.1464 1661 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2193.1464 (pause 1.34) 2194.4858 1662 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2194.4858 2194.6664 1663 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2194.6664 (pause 0.39) 2195.0541 1664 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2195.0541 I barely passed Physics, 2196.5647 1665 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2196.5647 (pause 1.39) 2197.9569 1666 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2197.9569 and I was in Physics Two, and I didn't too well in that class wither. 2201.2436 1667 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2201.2436 (pause 0.74) 2201.9875 1668 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2201.9875 So uh, they- 2202.6087 1669 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2202.6087 (pause 0.31) 2202.9171 1670 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2202.9171 uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ put me on academic probation. 2204.8468 1671 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2204.8468 (pause 0.62) 2205.4636 1672 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2205.4636 And then the next semester, I didn't get the grades that I was supposed to get. 2207.9529 1673 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2207.9529 (pause 0.69) 2208.6396 1674 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2208.6396 So they didn't um- 2209.7542 1675 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2209.7542 (pause 0.93) 2210.6882 1676 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2210.6882 they didn't approve my financial aid. 2212.2435 1677 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2212.2435 (pause 0.86) 2213.1026 1678 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2213.1026 So I had to drop out. 2213.8427 1679 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2213.8427 (pause 0.68) 2214.5250 1680 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2214.5250 So when I dropped out, I came home and worked. 2216.2036 1681 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2216.2036 (pause 0.59) 2216.7984 1682 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2216.7984 And I never went back to school to finish. 2218.2963 1683 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2218.2963 (pause 0.98) 2219.2744 1684 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2219.2744 So that's why I'm not in those fields. 2221.0317 1685 DCB_int_01 2221.7322 Gotcha. 2222.2741 1686 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2222.8601 But I am- I do wanna 2224.2214 1687 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2224.2214 (pause 0.33) 2224.5563 1688 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2224.5563 go back and finish and 2226.4016 1689 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2226.4016 (pause 0.36) 2226.7629 1690 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2226.7629 potentially get into those fields. 2228.1904 1691 DCB_int_01 2228.9350 So what do you think you- What- 2230.0937 1692 DCB_int_01 2230.0937 (pause 0.21) 2230.3007 1693 DCB_int_01 2230.3007 If you had to say, that's my dream job, what would that be? 2232.7629 1694 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2232.7541 To be engineer, 2233.4899 1695 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2234.0318 a mechanical engineer. 2235.0143 1696 DCB_int_01 2236.6884 Do you have a specific kind of car that you would [really] like to- 2239.9040 1697 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2239.0185 [] 2239.1594 1698 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2239.9260 I don't necessarily have a car, but I always wanted to design engines, like any engine. [Like, it c- it could be a plane engine], boat engine. 2246.9922 1699 DCB_int_01 2244.6263 [Any kind of engine. Ah, gotcha.] 2245.9745 1700 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2248.3095 So it doesn't matter. 2249.1819 1701 DCB_int_01 2250.1241 Wow. 2250.7189 1702 DCB_int_01 2250.7189 (pause 0.32) 2251.0405 1703 DCB_int_01 2251.0405 And that's a big, like- 2252.4679 1704 DCB_int_01 2252.4679 (pause 0.35) 2252.8160 1705 DCB_int_01 2252.8160 STEM in general 2253.8161 1706 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2253.8293 [Yeah.] 2254.1333 1707 DCB_int_01 2253.9967 [is] just like a big deal. It's the- the buzz word these days, [so.] 2257.9216 1708 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2257.3313 [Yeah.] 2257.6132 1709 DCB_int_01 2258.7147 Alright. 2259.1464 1710 DCB_int_01 2259.1464 (pause 0.44) 2259.5826 1711 DCB_int_01 2259.5826 I'll be looking out for your [/name/.] 2261.2039 1712 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2260.6179 [] 2261.1995 1713 DCB_int_01 2261.4192 [Design] me some kind of engine or something, I don't know. 2263.8159 1714 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2261.5646 [] 2262.0228 1715 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2263.9833 [Mm.] 2264.2344 1716 DCB_int_01 2264.0009 [I don't know] what I would need an engine for, outside of my car, but 2267.1731 1717 DCB_int_01 2268.6880 if I need one I'll call you. 2269.7146 1718 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2269.8203 Okay. 2270.3005 1719 DCB_int_01 2270.4107 Um, 2270.8468 1720 DCB_int_01 2270.8468 (pause 0.44) 2271.2918 1721 DCB_int_01 2271.2918 so- 2271.8205 1722 DCB_int_01 2271.8205 (pause 0.34) 2272.1598 1723 DCB_int_01 2272.1598 so you got older. You love Abraham Lincoln. 2274.4581 1724 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2275.2872 No I d- As a child, I /always been interested in history/. I been uh- I've always watched the History Channel. 2279.4771 1725 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2279.4771 (pause 0.95) 2280.4237 1726 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2280.4237 Like I [just al-] always love history. 2282.1023 1727 DCB_int_01 2280.6616 [Really?] 2281.0713 1728 DCB_int_01 2283.3491 Where'd that come- It just- 2284.1774 1729 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2284.3360 [I- I don't know, sparked] my int- I have no idea where it came from. I just al- I guess just 2288.1816 1730 DCB_int_01 2284.3360 [something just-] 2284.9660 1731 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2288.3975 flipping channels, and I just- All of a sudden, something would come on, /and I-/ 2291.0850 1732 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2291.0850 (pause 0.59) 2291.6709 1733 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2291.6709 And I just look at it. 2293.3401 1734 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2293.3401 (pause 0.52) 2293.8644 1735 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2293.8644 So I- I guess that's where it sparked from, but I don't know where it comes from. 2296.7589 1736 DCB_int_01 2297.0012 So how'd you end up at your current 2298.3268 1737 DCB_int_01 2298.3268 (pause 0.22) 2298.5514 1738 DCB_int_01 2298.5514 job? 2298.9259 1739 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2299.0273 2299.1815 1740 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2299.1815 (pause 0.19) 2299.3709 1741 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2299.3709 Um, 2300.1463 1742 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2300.1463 (pause 0.14) 2300.2873 1743 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2300.2873 I- I worked for /RD-WORK-1/, the /RD-WORK-5/ 2302.9175 1744 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2302.9175 (pause 0.22) 2303.1334 1745 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2303.1334 /RD-WORK-19/, 2304.8070 1746 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2304.8070 (pause 0.74) 2305.5515 1747 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2305.5515 and someone told me that uh, /RD-WORK-6/ was hiring. 2307.9174 1748 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2307.9174 (pause 0.23) 2308.1465 1749 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2308.1465 So I just applied, 2309.1334 1750 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2309.1334 (pause 0.44) 2309.5778 1751 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2309.5778 and I got it. 2310.1241 1752 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2310.1241 (pause 0.16) 2310.2827 1753 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2310.2827 I don't know how I got it, but I got it. 2311.6485 1754 DCB_int_01 2312.6045 So this is my a random question, and it's just my own personal interest. How do you know /RD-NAME-3/? 2316.3582 1755 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2316.4149 2316.5823 1756 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2316.5823 (pause 0.16) 2316.7453 1757 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2316.7453 /RD-NAME-3/ started with us last June. 2319.0495 1758 DCB_int_01 2319.4725 Mm-hm. 2319.7676 1759 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2320.3712 And um, 2321.4550 1760 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2321.4550 (pause 0.43) 2321.8862 1761 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2321.8862 one of my coworkers introduced me to /RD-NAME-3/. 2323.8732 1762 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2323.8732 (pause 0.74) 2324.6177 1763 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2324.6177 And I don't know why I took interest to /RD-NAME-3/, but we just starting having these conversations, and we just became friends. 2330.4274 1764 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2330.4274 (pause 0.27) 2330.6970 1765 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2330.6970 I- I to- I- I never told him about it, but I look at him as my big brother cause I always ask him [questions.] 2335.2123 1766 DCB_int_01 2334.8863 [Aw.] 2335.4899 1767 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2336.0097 So yeah. 2336.4812 1768 DCB_int_01 2336.9350 Can I tell him that [or-] 2337.8763 1769 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2337.7632 [Of] course you can tell [him.] 2339.1863 1770 DCB_int_01 2338.3712 [Oh.] 2338.6003 1771 DCB_int_01 2339.2876 I mean I could not- [I could cut it off and like], say, 2341.8908 1772 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2340.0888 [] 2341.3797 1773 DCB_int_01 2342.0890 No, /RD-NAME-3/, I can't tell you. 2343.2517 1774 DCB_int_01 2343.2517 (pause 0.21) 2343.4636 1775 DCB_int_01 2343.4636 Um, but I wouldn't. 2344.4285 1776 DCB_int_01 2344.4285 (pause 0.67) 2345.0938 1777 DCB_int_01 2345.0938 Um, 2345.6533 1778 DCB_int_01 2345.6533 (pause 0.26) 2345.9126 1779 DCB_int_01 2345.9126 so, 2346.4369 1780 DCB_int_01 2346.4369 (pause 0.32) 2346.7585 1781 DCB_int_01 2346.7585 now, 2347.1110 1782 DCB_int_01 2347.1110 (pause 1.28) 2348.3886 1783 DCB_int_01 2348.3886 you said you wouldn't move back to DC. How'd you end up in 2351.3978 1784 DCB_int_01 2351.3978 (pause 0.39) 2351.7848 1785 DCB_int_01 2351.7848 Alexandria? [Are you Alexandria] or Arlington? 2354.0362 1786 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2352.7056 [Because-] 2353.0757 1787 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2354.0494 Alexandria. [It's because] of where I work. I work in Crystal City, 2356.4946 1788 DCB_int_01 2354.5296 [Mm.] 2354.8204 1789 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2356.7501 Arlington, Virginia. 2357.4771 1790 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2357.4771 (pause 0.13) 2357.6086 1791 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2357.6086 So I got tired of um, 2358.6880 1792 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2358.6880 (pause 0.94) 2359.6309 1793 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2359.6309 2359.8247 1794 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2359.8247 (pause 0.32) 2360.1463 1795 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2360.1463 traveling across the bridge, so I just- just decided to live in Virginia. 2363.1819 1796 DCB_int_01 2364.9083 And that was the only reason? 2365.8644 1797 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2365.9040 Only reason. 2366.4415 1798 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2366.4415 (pause 0.33) 2366.7763 1799 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2366.7763 I have no reason to be in Virginia. 2368.0849 1800 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2368.0849 (pause 0.35) 2368.4329 1801 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2368.4329 To be honest with you, I never kn- I never really knew about Virginia until I w- started working in Virginia. 2372.2433 1802 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2372.2433 (pause 0.76) 2373.0010 1803 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2373.0010 I w- I n- I would never come to Virginia. I have no reason to- I had no reason to come over to Virginia. 2377.0801 1804 DCB_int_01 2377.4943 Do you hang out in Virginia? 2378.6618 1805 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2379.2434 N- 2380.2038 1806 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2380.2038 (pause 0.19) 2380.3933 1807 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2380.3933 no. 2380.9175 1808 DCB_int_01 2382.2430 So you just live there, 2383.2696 1809 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2383.2255 Yeah. 2383.4546 1810 DCB_int_01 2383.4370 work there, 2384.1067 1811 DCB_int_01 2384.4151 but you hang out in DC? 2385.6707 1812 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2385.6443 I would hang out in DC, yes. 2387.1510 1813 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2387.4374 DC, yeah. 2387.9875 1814 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2387.9875 (pause 0.15) 2388.1329 1815 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2388.1329 That's it. Yeah. 2388.7541 1816 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2388.7541 (pause 0.19) 2388.9480 1817 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2388.9480 2389.6705 1818 DCB_int_01 2390.2653 Hm. 2390.8865 1819 DCB_int_01 2390.8865 (pause 0.85) 2391.7324 1820 DCB_int_01 2391.7324 Do you see it- Is it different? 2392.9616 1821 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2393.3934 Is V- 2393.7238 1822 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2393.7238 (pause 0.17) 2393.8950 1823 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2393.8950 DC different from Virginia? 2395.1198 1824 DCB_int_01 2395.8203 Mm-hm. 2396.1287 1825 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2396.1375 Yes. 2396.4679 1826 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2396.4679 (pause 3.07) 2399.5387 1827 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2399.5387 Why? 2399.9485 1828 DCB_int_01 2400.2166 Like [how?] 2400.9964 1829 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2400.5162 [] 2401.0008 1830 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2401.3753 Well, 2401.8291 1831 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2401.8291 (pause 0.30) 2402.1331 1832 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2402.1331 the demographics again. 2403.2522 1833 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2403.2522 (pause 0.76) 2404.0144 1834 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2404.0144 I don't see 2404.7105 1835 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2404.7105 (pause 0.28) 2404.9880 1836 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2404.9880 that many white people in 2406.3230 1837 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2406.3230 (pause 0.65) 2406.9744 1838 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2406.9744 DC where I hang out at. 2408.0758 1839 DCB_int_01 2410.5475 Have you- Do you travel beyond just kind of Alexandria or Crystal City? 2413.8335 1840 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2413.8952 Uh, I would say 2416.0804 1841 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2416.0804 (pause 2.21) 2418.2915 1842 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2418.2915 Springfield. 2419.2343 1843 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2419.2343 (pause 0.55) 2419.7806 1844 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2419.7806 Uh, I don't necessarily hang out there, but I would go to restaurants. Um, 2423.3934 1845 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2423.3934 (pause 1.33) 2424.7189 1846 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2424.7189 2424.8731 1847 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2424.8731 (pause 0.54) 2425.4150 1848 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2425.4150 um, Falls Church. 2427.2786 1849 DCB_int_01 2428.5475 Hm. 2429.0321 1850 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2429.5205 Uh, Sterling. 2430.4581 1851 DCB_int_01 2431.2608 You're going pretty far [in.] 2432.7455 1852 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2432.3181 [ You think] so? That's not that far. 2433.8602 1853 DCB_int_01 2434.1686 I [mean] 2434.9263 1854 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2434.5475 [] It's off of- just off of three ninety five. 2436.6396 1855 DCB_int_01 2436.6880 I know but that's- 2438.0979 1856 DCB_int_01 2438.0979 (pause 0.19) 2438.2873 1857 DCB_int_01 2438.2873 I mean compared to somebody who's like, 2440.6091 1858 DCB_int_01 2440.6091 (pause 0.38) 2440.9924 1859 DCB_int_01 2440.9924 Nah, I don't hang out in Virginia, 2442.1285 1860 DCB_int_01 2442.1285 (pause 0.13) 2442.2607 1861 DCB_int_01 2442.2607 [that's- that's /kind of/ beat.] 2443.7313 1862 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2442.2651 [Yeah, but that- but I only go there s-] only /to/ go there to- for restaurants cause the people I work with, they live in Virginia, so they suggest 2447.9397 1863 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2448.3444 different places to go. 2449.3004 1864 DCB_int_01 2450.8821 Okay, so come back. So you live 2452.8382 1865 DCB_int_01 2452.8382 (pause 1.66) 2454.4986 1866 DCB_int_01 2454.4986 like 2454.8378 1867 DCB_int_01 2454.8378 (pause 0.16) 2454.9964 1868 DCB_int_01 2454.9964 right out- 2455.3753 1869 DCB_int_01 2455.3753 (pause 0.24) 2455.6176 1870 DCB_int_01 2455.6176 right Crystal City, by airport? 2457.0407 1871 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2457.0715 I don't necessarily live- I do live by the airport, but- 2459.6571 1872 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2459.6571 (pause 0.45) 2460.1065 1873 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2460.1065 uh, okay. 2461.0625 1874 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2461.0625 (pause 0.26) 2461.3180 1875 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2461.3180 Have you- 2461.6705 1876 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2461.6705 (pause 0.21) 2461.8776 1877 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2461.8776 when you come to f- 2462.9966 1878 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2462.9966 (pause 0.11) 2463.1024 1879 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2463.1024 when you come off the bridge from four ninety five, 2465.1422 1880 DCB_int_01 2466.0977 [Mm-hm.] 2466.3708 1881 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2466.2122 [and] you come right off the bridge, I kind of live in that area. You know- Have you- You know where the American Buffet- where those car dealerships [are?] 2472.1511 1882 DCB_int_01 2472.1115 [Mm-hm.] 2472.4581 1883 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2472.4810 I live in that area. 2473.3224 1884 DCB_int_01 2473.3445 Oh, route one. 2473.9921 1885 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2474.1067 Yeah, route o- off [of route one. Yeah.] 2475.7060 1886 DCB_int_01 2474.8777 [Gotcha, so you're] on that [side.] You're not on the old town [side.] 2478.4287 1887 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2476.5342 [Yeah.] 2476.8515 1888 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2476.8515 (pause 1.22) 2478.0674 1889 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2478.0674 [No], I mean- Yeah- No, no, no, not the old town side, but you know that's like five minutes right [there. /Yeah/. Nah, I'm not over-] 2483.5255 1890 DCB_int_01 2482.3051 [Right right right right. So you're at-] But you're at the junction 2484.8290 1891 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2484.7717 Yeah. 2485.0229 1892 DCB_int_01 2485.0625 of the highway. 2485.6044 1893 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2485.7102 Yeah. 2485.9040 1894 DCB_int_01 2485.9260 Got- Now, I know- I was just over there yesterday. 2487.9218 1895 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2487.9483 Yeah. 2488.1950 1896 DCB_int_01 2488.3095 Um, so now I know where you are. 2489.7628 1897 DCB_int_01 2489.7628 (pause 0.26) 2490.0272 1898 DCB_int_01 2490.0272 Okay. 2490.4281 1899 DCB_int_01 2490.4281 (pause 0.47) 2490.8995 1900 DCB_int_01 2490.8995 Alright, so y- 2491.6309 1901 DCB_int_01 2491.6309 (pause 0.27) 2491.9040 1902 DCB_int_01 2491.9040 That's- Yeah, nah, that's not that far [/then/.] 2493.7809 1903 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2493.5738 [No.] 2493.8778 1904 DCB_int_01 2493.9571 Cause you're on the other- I [thought you were] on the like, up- 2496.6968 1905 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2495.1334 [Yeah.] 2495.4903 1906 DCB_int_01 2497.1374 Like, 2497.5295 1907 DCB_int_01 2497.5295 (pause 0.53) 2498.0626 1908 DCB_int_01 2498.0626 um- 2498.6045 1909 DCB_int_01 2498.6045 (pause 0.41) 2499.0187 1910 DCB_int_01 2499.0187 2499.1552 1911 DCB_int_01 2499.1552 (pause 0.40) 2499.5518 1912 DCB_int_01 2499.5518 Like by the Target and all that on that side, closer to the airport side, [not on the other side.] 2504.1684 1913 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2503.0493 [Nah, nah, nah. You're talking about] Potomac Yards. [Nah.] 2505.2830 1914 DCB_int_01 2505.0627 [Potomac-] I couldn't- I couldn't think of Potomac- Yes. 2507.0497 1915 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2507.0629 [No.] 2507.3405 1916 DCB_int_01 2507.1819 [Okay], so you're not on- Okay, now I gotcha. 2509.1550 1917 DCB_int_01 2509.8511 Um, 2510.5472 1918 DCB_int_01 2510.5472 (pause 0.37) 2510.9173 1919 DCB_int_01 2510.9173 so 2511.4680 1920 DCB_int_01 2511.4680 (pause 0.18) 2511.6443 1921 DCB_int_01 2511.6443 couple of other questions for you. 2513.1643 1922 DCB_int_01 2513.1643 (pause 0.67) 2513.8383 1923 DCB_int_01 2513.8383 What do you think- 2514.8422 1924 DCB_int_01 2514.8422 (pause 0.20) 2515.0449 1925 DCB_int_01 2515.0449 If you could leave one piece of advice 2517.1244 1926 DCB_int_01 2517.1244 (pause 0.29) 2517.4108 1927 DCB_int_01 2517.4108 to like, 2517.9042 1928 DCB_int_01 2517.9042 (pause 0.38) 2518.2831 1929 DCB_int_01 2518.2831 the young- 2519.2039 1930 DCB_int_01 2519.2039 (pause 0.64) 2519.8465 1931 DCB_int_01 2519.8465 Before I say that, 2520.5867 1932 DCB_int_01 2520.5867 (pause 0.94) 2521.5295 1933 DCB_int_01 2521.5295 all the stuff that's going on in the news, especially with young black men, 2524.8426 1934 DCB_int_01 2524.8426 (pause 0.53) 2525.3713 1935 DCB_int_01 2525.3713 um- 2525.8383 1936 DCB_int_01 2525.8383 (pause 0.73) 2526.5647 1937 DCB_int_01 2526.5647 It's just scary. It's a lot going on. 2528.4988 1938 DCB_int_01 2528.4988 (pause 0.22) 2528.7191 1939 DCB_int_01 2528.7191 I don't watch the news, but I hear about it [unfortunately.] 2531.2436 1940 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2530.5783 [Yeah.] 2530.8647 1941 DCB_int_01 2532.1197 If you could leave one piece of advice 2534.4459 1942 DCB_int_01 2534.4459 (pause 0.67) 2535.1200 1943 DCB_int_01 2535.1200 to- 2535.8425 1944 DCB_int_01 2535.8425 (pause 1.35) 2537.1951 1945 DCB_int_01 2537.1951 to young black men, 2538.4105 1946 DCB_int_01 2538.4105 (pause 0.73) 2539.1418 1947 DCB_int_01 2539.1418 but also just to the youth in general, what would that piece of advice be? 2543.0761 1948 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2543.0541 2543.2127 1949 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2543.6395 Just try not to fall into the 2546.6750 1950 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2546.6750 (pause 0.98) 2547.6531 1951 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2547.6531 trap of You have to be a certain way. 2550.2833 1952 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2550.2833 (pause 1.07) 2551.3489 1953 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2551.3489 Just 2551.6661 1954 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2551.6661 (pause 0.60) 2552.2697 1955 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2552.2697 be yourself. 2553.0539 1956 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2553.0539 (pause 0.63) 2553.6795 1957 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2553.6795 Try not to 2554.6796 1958 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2554.6796 (pause 0.78) 2555.4550 1959 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2555.4550 focus on tryna impress your friends and females. Just- 2559.1024 1960 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2559.1024 (pause 0.94) 2560.0452 1961 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2560.0452 just 2560.7413 1962 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2560.7413 (pause 0.75) 2561.4903 1963 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2561.4903 figure out what you wanna do, 2562.9788 1964 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2562.9788 (pause 0.53) 2563.5119 1965 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2563.5119 and f- and follow that path 2564.9305 1966 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2564.9305 (pause 0.37) 2565.2962 1967 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2565.2962 because 2565.8249 1968 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2565.8249 (pause 0.89) 2566.7105 1969 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2566.7105 as a child, I don't know why, but I never really cared about what other people thought about me. 2570.7191 1970 DCB_int_01 2571.0583 Hm. 2571.2301 1971 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2571.8337 So to fall into the trap of tryna sell drugs or tryna create this pert- persona that I'm a thug, 2577.0715 1972 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2577.0715 (pause 0.56) 2577.6267 1973 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2577.6267 I- I never- I never was that 2579.2392 1974 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2579.2392 (pause 0.19) 2579.4330 1975 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2579.4330 child 2579.7987 1976 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2579.7987 (pause 0.35) 2580.1461 1977 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2580.1461 or never was that individual. 2581.4370 1978 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2581.4370 (pause 0.57) 2582.0097 1979 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2582.0097 So that's how my mentality is not, 2584.1069 1980 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2584.1069 (pause 0.44) 2584.5430 1981 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2584.5430 I need to be like this. I need to do that. 2586.1379 1982 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2586.1379 (pause 0.52) 2586.6616 1983 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2586.6616 So, 2587.0669 1984 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2587.0669 (pause 0.67) 2587.7366 1985 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2587.7366 I w- I would just try to tell them 2589.4504 1986 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2589.4504 (pause 0.55) 2589.9967 1987 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2589.9967 to 2590.4990 1988 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2590.4990 (pause 0.21) 2590.7105 1989 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2590.7105 try to- Because- If you- Growing up in that environment 2593.1859 1990 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2593.1859 (pause 0.18) 2593.3665 1991 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2593.3665 and growing up around those people, 2594.7852 1992 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2594.7852 (pause 0.56) 2595.3447 1993 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2595.3447 you can't help but wanna be like that. 2597.2039 1994 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2597.2039 (pause 0.57) 2597.7760 1995 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2597.7760 So I would try to s- 2598.6528 1996 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2598.6528 (pause 0.51) 2599.1594 1997 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2599.1594 steer their mind from that. 2601.0099 1998 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2601.0099 (pause 1.15) 2602.1598 1999 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2602.1598 Try to because it's hard to- to talk to young individuals. 2605.4238 2000 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2605.4238 (pause 0.69) 2606.1155 2001 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2606.1155 So try to steer their mind from- from that- 2608.0804 2002 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2608.0804 (pause 0.18) 2608.2567 2003 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2608.2567 from that concept. 2609.3273 2004 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2609.3273 (pause 0.63) 2609.9567 2005 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2609.9567 And try to get them to follow the right path or to follow their own path. 2613.6619 2006 DCB_int_01 2614.8999 Hm. 2615.0365 2007 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2614.9968 Because you- If you don't have goals in minds, you're not gonna strive to do anything. 2618.5693 2008 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2620.3448 So th- I- That's- That would be my advice. 2622.7805 2009 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2622.7805 (pause 1.45) 2624.2344 2010 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2624.2344 I just think that would be difficult 2625.7500 2011 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2625.7500 (pause 1.01) 2626.7633 2012 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2626.7633 because 2627.3052 2013 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2627.3052 (pause 0.20) 2627.5035 2014 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2627.5035 that person has to want to do it. 2629.0581 2015 DCB_int_01 2629.9569 Right. 2630.2212 2016 DCB_int_01 2630.2212 (pause 1.21) 2631.4284 2017 DCB_int_01 2631.4284 Do you mentor? 2632.3095 2018 DCB_int_01 2632.3095 (pause 0.26) 2632.5651 2019 DCB_int_01 2632.5651 Do you [/feel/-] 2633.3581 2020 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2633.0012 [I want] to mentor, but no I don't. 2634.4581 2021 DCB_int_01 2635.6176 And why not? 2636.1331 2022 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2636.4459 2636.5693 2023 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2636.5693 (pause 0.52) 2637.0847 2024 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2637.0847 I j- I really- I really don't have the time. 2638.7854 2025 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2638.7854 (pause 0.15) 2638.9308 2026 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2638.9308 I [really] have to make time because I have- I have two kids. 2641.8688 2027 DCB_int_01 2639.0982 [/Yeah./] 2639.5167 2028 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2643.0451 That's a story within itself. 2644.1862 2029 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2644.1862 (pause 0.19) 2644.3756 2030 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2644.3756 2644.8382 2031 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2644.8382 (pause 0.44) 2645.2832 2032 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2645.2832 I have two- two little girls by two different uh, 2647.8247 2033 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2647.8247 (pause 0.29) 2648.1111 2034 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2648.1111 mothers. 2648.5781 2035 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2648.5781 (pause 0.92) 2649.4989 2036 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2649.4989 So that- that- that set me back a little bit from- from going back to school because I- I was- I was ready to go back to school but 2655.6883 2037 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2655.6883 (pause 0.66) 2656.3448 2038 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2656.3448 /had them/ babies, and that- that took my- My m- My money went to that, 2659.7207 2039 DCB_int_01 2660.4900 [How old are] they? 2661.1024 2040 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2660.4944 [so.] 2660.9041 2041 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2661.3447 Uh, 2661.6575 2042 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2661.6575 (pause 0.45) 2662.1113 2043 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2662.1113 two and three. No, no, no. Three and four. 2663.8295 2044 DCB_int_01 2664.6836 Oh- Oh. You're toddler- 2666.7323 2045 DCB_int_01 2666.7323 (pause 0.40) 2667.1288 2046 DCB_int_01 2667.1288 Ooh. 2667.5474 2047 DCB_int_01 2667.5474 (pause 0.20) 2667.7456 2048 DCB_int_01 2667.7456 Yeah. 2668.1245 2049 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2668.1421 No actually they 2668.8735 2050 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2668.8735 (pause 0.44) 2669.3090 2051 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2669.3090 two and- Yeah, two and three. Yeah, my daughter's about to turn three, that's why, 2672.2300 2052 DCB_int_01 2672.4723 [Oh.] 2672.7896 2053 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2672.4768 [and then my] other daughter's about to turn four. 2674.0496 2054 DCB_int_01 2674.3360 Oh, okay. So almost 2675.6665 2055 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2675.9831 [Yeah.] 2676.3003 2056 DCB_int_01 2676.1505 [coming] up. 2676.6396 2057 DCB_int_01 2677.0845 Tell me about that. I mean, not ne- I mean, just about your daughters. You don't have to tell me [the other- Unless you want to.] 2681.8339 2058 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2680.3140 [Oh I s- ] 2681.6225 2059 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2682.1770 Nah, I- if you don't ask specifically, nah, I'm not gonna g- I'm not gonna go into that, [but.] 2685.8558 2060 DCB_int_01 2685.6795 [Well] now you're gonna make me ask. 2687.1246 2061 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2686.8382 [I don't-] I don't mind. It- [it- that's- that's] on you. 2689.4282 2062 DCB_int_01 2687.8906 [] 2688.5030 2063 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2689.8600 But uh, 2690.6310 2064 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2690.6310 (pause 0.75) 2691.3843 2065 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2691.3843 2691.4592 2066 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2691.4592 (pause 0.21) 2691.6707 2067 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2691.6707 ma- 2692.6708 2068 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2692.6708 (pause 1.07) 2693.7414 2069 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2693.7414 I don't know. You /gonna have to/ s- ask specific questions. 2696.1463 2070 DCB_int_01 2696.4019 Mkay. 2696.7499 2071 DCB_int_01 2696.7499 (pause 0.85) 2697.6046 2072 DCB_int_01 2697.6046 What are your two daughters' [names?] 2699.0673 2073 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2698.8735 [Uh], n- 2699.4374 2074 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2699.5734 my- my oldest daughter is /RD-NAME-2/. 2701.4326 2075 DCB_int_01 2701.7454 /RD-NAME-2/. 2702.2256 2076 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2702.3886 /RD-NAME- 6/. 2703.6971 2077 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2703.6971 (pause 0.90) 2704.6003 2078 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2704.6003 /RD-NAME-4/. 2705.5432 2079 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2705.5432 (pause 0.54) 2706.0844 2080 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2706.0844 Her mother 2706.8070 2081 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2706.8070 (pause 0.99) 2707.7983 2082 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2707.7983 got mad at me and didn't give her my last name. 2709.6839 2083 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2709.6839 (pause 1.13) 2710.8162 2084 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2710.8162 Her name was supposed to be /RD-NAME-6/, and I'm still salty about that. 2714.1728 2085 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2714.1728 (pause 1.32) 2715.4945 2086 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2715.4945 My other daughter, she's three? 2717.2436 2087 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2717.2436 (pause 0.15) 2717.3890 2088 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2717.3890 No, two. 2717.9705 2089 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2717.9705 (pause 1.23) 2719.2035 2090 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2719.2035 She's uh- she's very active. Her name is /RD-NAME-2/. 2721.7941 2091 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2721.7941 (pause 0.73) 2722.5254 2092 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2722.5254 /RD-NAME-6/. 2723.6004 2093 DCB_int_01 2725.8511 And what do you- do they- now, do they play with each other? 2728.6634 2094 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2728.6752 Yeah. 2728.8559 2095 DCB_int_01 2729.5432 Do they live with you? 2730.2701 2096 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2730.4501 No. 2730.7717 2097 DCB_int_01 2731.0449 No, okay. 2731.6441 2098 DCB_int_01 2731.6441 (pause 0.55) 2732.1948 2099 DCB_int_01 2732.1948 So 2732.5825 2100 DCB_int_01 2732.5825 (pause 0.21) 2732.7940 2101 DCB_int_01 2732.7940 how often do you see them? What do y'all do when y'all get [together?] 2735.7546 2102 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2735.4594 [] 2735.9661 2103 DCB_int_01 2736.1417 Are you like, let's go to the park. Let's play [basketball.] 2738.5428 2104 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2738.4503 [Nah], I wish I could play basketball with them. Uh, I can't wait til that happens. But um, 2742.0674 2105 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2742.4854 I see my daughters 2743.6661 2106 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2743.6661 (pause 0.13) 2743.7939 2107 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2743.7939 every other weekend. 2744.7499 2108 DCB_int_01 2745.0099 Mm, mm-hm. 2745.4769 2109 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2745.5121 So I get one one weekend and get the other one the next weekend. 2748.3538 2110 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2748.3538 (pause 0.47) 2748.8202 2111 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2748.8202 The reason why I don't get 'em both together is I c- I can't handle both of 'em together. 2751.8866 2112 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2751.8866 (pause 0.52) 2752.4109 2113 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2752.4109 My little- my l- my younger one, she's a- she's tough by herself. 2755.2343 2114 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2755.2343 (pause 0.75) 2755.9877 2115 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2755.9877 Um, I will at some point get both of them together when they get older. 2758.6620 2116 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2758.6620 (pause 0.31) 2758.9704 2117 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2758.9704 2759.1599 2118 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2759.1599 (pause 0.18) 2759.3361 2119 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2759.3361 I get 2759.8597 2120 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2759.8597 (pause 0.11) 2759.9655 2121 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2759.9655 uh, my youngest daughter every Wednesday. 2762.1419 2122 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2762.1419 (pause 1.46) 2763.6002 2123 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2763.6002 But I see my- my- 2765.1070 2124 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2765.1070 (pause 1.20) 2766.3091 2125 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2766.3091 I see my oldest daughter a lot. 2767.4767 2126 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2767.4767 (pause 0.41) 2767.8820 2127 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2767.8820 I see her uh, mostly throughout the week. 2769.4769 2128 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2769.4769 (pause 0.69) 2770.1642 2129 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2770.1642 So I- M- Basically, I would say, throughout the week, 2772.8114 2130 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2772.8114 (pause 0.78) 2773.5956 2131 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2773.5956 I'm probably by myself 2775.4328 2132 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2775.4328 (pause 0.61) 2776.0408 2133 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2776.0408 once a week. 2776.7633 2134 DCB_int_01 2777.7893 Oh. 2778.1197 2135 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2778.0888 Cause uh, they are constantly with me all the time. 2780.0450 2136 DCB_int_01 2781.3447 Do you, um, do they- are they from DC? I mean do they live in [DC or they Virginia, Maryland.] 2785.9657 2137 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2784.4765 [No, my- my youngest] daughter live in DC. 2787.4989 2138 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2787.6707 But both of 'em was born in Maryland. 2789.0497 2139 DCB_int_01 2789.3405 Mm. 2789.6577 2140 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2789.7011 I did not want 2790.4633 2141 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2790.4633 (pause 0.15) 2790.6131 2142 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2790.6131 her to l- She lives down the street from my mother. My mother lives in Southeast currently, 2794.1377 2143 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2794.1377 (pause 0.59) 2794.7281 2144 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2794.7281 and my daughter lives right down the street in walking /dinstances/ from my mo- I did not want her to live in Southeast. 2799.0407 2145 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2799.0407 (pause 0.24) 2799.2786 2146 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2799.2786 But her mother insist on she living right there. 2801.2303 2147 DCB_int_01 2802.7497 Hm. 2802.9920 2148 DCB_int_01 2802.9920 (pause 1.45) 2804.4371 2149 DCB_int_01 2804.4371 So, 2805.0671 2150 DCB_int_01 2805.0671 (pause 2.15) 2807.2215 2151 DCB_int_01 2807.2215 do you want- do you want anymore [kids or you-] 2809.5295 2152 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2809.2167 [No.] 2809.4370 2153 DCB_int_01 2809.7410 You're done? 2810.1507 2154 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2810.2785 [Not at all.] 2810.7279 2155 DCB_int_01 2810.3137 [That's it?] 2810.7147 2156 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2810.8424 [Nah.] 2811.0451 2157 DCB_int_01 2810.9394 [You] got your two girls. [You don't] wanna go for the [boy?] 2812.8911 2158 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2811.8117 [I'm-] 2812.0003 2159 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2812.0003 (pause 0.65) 2812.6532 2160 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2812.6532 [No] boy. 2813.1334 2161 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2813.9567 No. 2814.2393 2162 DCB_int_01 2814.6307 Okay. 2814.9832 2163 DCB_int_01 2814.9832 (pause 0.12) 2815.1066 2164 DCB_int_01 2815.1066 Well, you said no. 2815.9393 2165 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2815.9304 Mm-mm. 2816.3402 2166 DCB_int_01 2816.5032 2816.7455 2167 DCB_int_01 2816.7455 (pause 0.25) 2816.9922 2168 DCB_int_01 2816.9922 Um, 2817.6795 2169 DCB_int_01 2817.6795 (pause 1.19) 2818.8691 2170 DCB_int_01 2818.8691 and 2819.5432 2171 DCB_int_01 2819.5432 (pause 0.57) 2820.1116 2172 DCB_int_01 2820.1116 are they daddy's little girls? [Do- Are they] wra- Are you wrapped around those [little fingers?] 2823.9304 2173 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2821.2248 [Yes.] 2821.6025 2174 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2821.6025 (pause 1.45) 2823.0574 2175 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2823.0574 [Of course I'm wrapped], and they wrapped as well. 2824.9694 2176 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2825.5847 But can they can away with something? Nah, I'm- I'm strict. They don't get away with anything. 2829.0667 2177 DCB_int_01 2829.4817 That seems surpri- You seem so mild mannered, [like-] 2832.1069 2178 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2831.8225 [I am] mild mannered, but I don't- I don't- 2833.6457 2179 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2833.9383 I- 2834.1201 2180 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2834.1201 (pause 0.21) 2834.3253 2181 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2834.3253 I- I don't like to deal with 2835.5796 2182 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2835.5796 (pause 0.76) 2836.3397 2183 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2836.3397 BS. Like I c- [I just can't] deal with it. 2838.2375 2184 DCB_int_01 2837.2303 [Mm.] 2837.7525 2185 DCB_int_01 2839.6969 Yeah. 2840.0607 2186 DCB_int_01 2840.0607 (pause 0.25) 2840.3066 2187 DCB_int_01 2840.3066 Cause you seem really relaxed, but I can see like, sit down, 2843.2880 2188 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2842.7733 [] Yeah. [ Yeah.] 2845.0908 2189 DCB_int_01 2843.6919 [be quiet, get it together.] 2845.0255 2190 DCB_int_01 2845.1747 Mm-hm. 2845.6317 2191 DCB_int_01 2845.6317 (pause 0.45) 2846.0782 2192 DCB_int_01 2846.0782 Um, 2846.6097 2193 DCB_int_01 2846.6097 (pause 0.29) 2846.8988 2194 DCB_int_01 2846.8988 okay. 2847.4071 2195 DCB_int_01 2847.4071 (pause 0.26) 2847.6682 2196 DCB_int_01 2847.6682 So let me ask you about this. 2849.1137 2197 DCB_int_01 2849.1137 (pause 0.75) 2849.8644 2198 DCB_int_01 2849.8644 Um, I wanna go 2851.1561 2199 DCB_int_01 2851.1561 (pause 0.14) 2851.2959 2200 DCB_int_01 2851.2959 ask you a quick question. 2852.4372 2201 DCB_int_01 2852.4372 (pause 0.62) 2853.0620 2202 DCB_int_01 2853.0620 What's your favorite book? 2854.1345 2203 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2854.8246 The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. 2856.4846 2204 DCB_int_01 2857.2446 Why? 2857.6410 2205 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2858.4745 The book gives you um, 2861.3888 2206 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2861.3888 (pause 0.92) 2862.3121 2207 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2862.3121 a different way of thinking- expanding your thinking. 2865.0434 2208 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2865.0434 (pause 0.27) 2865.3138 2209 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2865.3138 Like one- one- I tell this story all the time. One- one section of book, 2868.8157 2210 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2868.8157 (pause 0.58) 2869.3974 2211 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2869.3974 he talks about how when you wash your hands, 2871.6402 2212 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2871.6402 (pause 0.10) 2871.7381 2213 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2871.7381 don't focus on what's around you. Just focus on the water going around your fingers. 2875.5244 2214 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2875.5244 (pause 0.24) 2875.7657 2215 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2875.7657 Like try to- 2876.3719 2216 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2876.3719 (pause 0.35) 2876.7263 2217 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2876.7263 The book, he's- he's kind of want you to think of- 2878.9458 2218 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2878.9458 (pause 0.16) 2879.1090 2219 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2879.1090 think in the now instead of tryna think in the future or the past. 2881.7482 2220 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2881.7482 (pause 0.51) 2882.2600 2221 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2882.2600 Like take care of what you got going on now, and the future and the past will take care of itself. 2885.7758 2222 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2885.7758 (pause 0.74) 2886.5126 2223 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2886.5126 So that's why I- I read that book like three times because I read it when 2889.9620 2224 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2889.9620 (pause 0.48) 2890.4422 2225 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2890.4422 I have a lot going on in my life. 2892.1489 2226 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2892.1489 (pause 0.74) 2892.8856 2227 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2892.8856 So I read it to just try to get my mind to focus on other things 2895.7148 2228 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2895.7148 (pause 0.42) 2896.1392 2229 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2896.1392 and try to be 2896.8572 2230 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2896.8572 (pause 0.22) 2897.0764 2231 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2897.0764 calm- calm and well mannered 2898.3634 2232 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2898.3634 (pause 0.72) 2899.0814 2233 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2899.0814 [instead of being stressed.] 2900.0700 2234 DCB_int_01 2899.1001 [Mm-hm.] 2899.6923 2235 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2900.4139 So I- I love that book. 2901.4770 2236 DCB_int_01 2901.7941 The Power of Now. 2902.7174 2237 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2902.7220 Yeah, [by Eckhart Tolle.] 2903.7012 2238 DCB_int_01 2903.0158 [Mkay.] 2903.5567 2239 DCB_int_01 2903.8551 I need to read that. 2904.7038 2240 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2904.7690 You will love it. 2905.4918 2241 DCB_int_01 2905.8217 Really? 2906.1388 2242 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2906.1854 Yeah. 2906.3579 2243 DCB_int_01 2906.8102 Cause I have a lot 2907.3325 2244 DCB_int_01 2907.3325 (pause 0.19) 2907.5237 2245 DCB_int_01 2907.5237 [/just stuff going everywhere/.] 2908.6847 2246 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2907.5423 [ If you read it], you will- 2908.8479 2247 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2909.0857 It just- 2909.4215 2248 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2909.4215 (pause 0.23) 2909.6546 2249 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2909.6546 It just gives you a different way of thinking and- and approaching certain situations. He talks about everything from religion to love to 2915.2209 2250 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2915.2209 (pause 0.44) 2915.6593 2251 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2915.6593 everything. It just gives you a different way of thinking, and it's- 2918.0327 2252 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2918.0327 (pause 0.28) 2918.3160 2253 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2918.3160 I like how in the book, he goes- He has a question and answer 2921.0531 2254 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2921.0531 (pause 0.58) 2921.6359 2255 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2921.6359 thing in the book, where people ask him questions on what- what he just said, and he would respond to it. 2925.9526 2256 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2925.9526 (pause 0.45) 2926.4049 2257 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2926.4049 So I- I like that part in the book as well. 2928.0090 2258 DCB_int_01 2928.7970 Hm. 2929.1840 2259 DCB_int_01 2929.1840 (pause 0.35) 2929.5337 2260 DCB_int_01 2929.5337 What's your favorite TV show? 2930.6657 2261 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2930.9874 [Um], 2931.6542 2262 DCB_int_01 2931.1133 [Or movie.] 2931.6822 2263 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2932.2977 movie? I don't have a favorite movie. I don't really have a favorite anything, but of course 2935.1141 2264 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2935.1141 (pause 0.42) 2935.5337 2265 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2935.5337 my favorite TV show right now will have to be Power. 2937.2905 2266 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2937.2905 (pause 1.00) 2938.2884 2267 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2938.2884 2939.1697 2268 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2939.1697 (pause 0.30) 2939.4681 2269 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2939.4681 [Would have-] 2939.9624 2270 DCB_int_01 2939.4774 [A popular] one. 2940.3867 2271 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2940.4053 would have to be Power. That show is just the best. 2942.8802 2272 DCB_int_01 2943.2672 Why? 2943.6122 2273 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2944.5915 It's just entertaining. 2945.6966 2274 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2945.6966 (pause 0.88) 2946.5779 2275 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2946.5779 It's very entertaining. 2947.4778 2276 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2947.4778 (pause 1.44) 2948.9175 2277 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2948.9175 I found myself- 2949.9480 2278 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2949.9480 (pause 0.11) 2950.0599 2279 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2950.0599 I guess I ca- I don't relate to Ghost, but I've found a little bit of my personality in the Ghost. 2954.6237 2280 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2954.6237 (pause 0.55) 2955.1786 2281 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2955.1786 Like, I love how 2956.3490 2282 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2956.3490 (pause 0.82) 2957.1697 2283 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2957.1697 he's- 2957.9997 2284 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2957.9997 (pause 1.30) 2959.3006 2285 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2959.3006 he's doing what he's doing, and he's kind of like using that 2962.2044 2286 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2962.2044 (pause 0.15) 2962.3537 2287 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2962.3537 to 2962.7500 2288 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2962.7500 (pause 0.28) 2963.0344 2289 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2963.0344 move on and progress in his life. 2964.7877 2290 DCB_int_01 2965.0115 Mm. 2965.3006 2291 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2965.4918 So I- I like- I like that. And I like the fact that 2968.0879 2292 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2968.0879 (pause 1.44) 2969.5287 2293 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2969.5287 he's in l- 2970.0836 2294 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2970.0836 (pause 0.80) 2970.8856 2295 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2970.8856 he's willing to 2972.1119 2296 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2972.1119 (pause 0.26) 2972.3673 2297 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2972.3673 f- f- fight for what he want, 2973.7615 2298 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2973.7615 (pause 0.64) 2974.4003 2299 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2974.4003 even though he's not going about it the right way. 2976.3261 2300 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2976.3261 (pause 0.92) 2977.2446 2301 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2977.2446 So 2977.5524 2302 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2977.5524 (pause 0.55) 2978.1061 2303 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2978.1061 yeah. 2978.4605 2304 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2978.4605 (pause 0.84) 2979.2998 2305 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2979.2998 I see myself in Ghost a little bit. That's why I like. 2981.2769 2306 DCB_int_01 2981.8691 Okay. 2982.3634 2307 DCB_int_01 2982.3634 (pause 0.87) 2983.2307 2308 DCB_int_01 2983.2307 Um, 2983.8264 2309 DCB_int_01 2983.8264 (pause 1.36) 2985.1879 2310 DCB_int_01 2985.1879 you talked about 2985.9666 2311 DCB_int_01 2985.9666 (pause 0.17) 2986.1345 2312 DCB_int_01 2986.1345 DC as a little 2987.3375 2313 DCB_int_01 2987.3375 (pause 0.24) 2987.5753 2314 DCB_int_01 2987.5753 different, where you talked about the carry out. 2989.4265 2315 DCB_int_01 2989.4265 (pause 0.74) 2990.1621 2316 DCB_int_01 2990.1621 I think this is really interesting, cause I was not 2992.3537 2317 DCB_int_01 2992.3537 (pause 0.15) 2992.5029 2318 DCB_int_01 2992.5029 aware of 2993.1090 2319 DCB_int_01 2993.1090 (pause 0.17) 2993.2769 2320 DCB_int_01 2993.2769 carry out. 2994.0230 2321 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2994.1862 2994.6478 2322 DCB_int_01 2994.6245 I also called it the Chinese place. Um- 2996.8662 2323 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2996.8429 Do you w- Have you changed that? 2997.9293 2324 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 2998.1252 Do you call it carry out now? 2999.2163 2325 DCB_int_01 3001.0675 Uh, well, 3001.8322 2326 DCB_int_01 3001.8322 (pause 1.06) 3002.8895 2327 DCB_int_01 3002.8895 s- 3003.0900 2328 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3003.3511 [] 3005.4121 2329 DCB_int_01 3004.0086 [maybe.] 3004.5122 2330 DCB_int_01 3004.5122 (pause 0.89) 3005.4028 2331 DCB_int_01 3005.4028 Um, 3005.9717 2332 DCB_int_01 3006.2654 but what is that- 3007.2540 2333 DCB_int_01 3007.2540 (pause 0.49) 3007.7471 2334 DCB_int_01 3007.7471 is carry out different from Chinese- 3009.4630 2335 DCB_int_01 3009.4630 (pause 0.17) 3009.6309 2336 DCB_int_01 3009.6309 the Chinese- Is a carry out place different from a Chinese food place? 3013.0675 2337 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3013.3239 Okay. 3013.7902 2338 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3013.7902 (pause 0.70) 3014.4885 2339 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3014.4885 In our minds, 3015.5237 2340 DCB_int_01 3015.8780 Mm-hm. 3016.1485 2341 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3017.0111 anything Chinese /felated/ would always be the carry out. 3019.2493 2342 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3019.2493 (pause 1.88) 3021.1320 2343 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3021.1320 So no matter if they do directly say only Chinese food, 3024.2141 2344 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3024.2141 (pause 0.15) 3024.3634 2345 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3024.3634 we will always call it a carry out. 3025.6223 2346 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3025.6223 (pause 0.33) 3025.9476 2347 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3025.9476 Cause that's- that's what- 3027.0689 2348 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3027.0689 (pause 0.48) 3027.5516 2349 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3027.5516 It's kind of like, 3028.3070 2350 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3028.3070 (pause 0.21) 3028.5215 2351 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3028.5215 you- 3028.8106 2352 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3028.8106 (pause 0.54) 3029.3468 2353 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3029.3468 you know that 3030.1302 2354 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3030.1302 (pause 0.78) 3030.9089 2355 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3030.9089 the light switch is named light switch. 3032.4559 2356 DCB_int_01 3032.5444 Mm-hm. 3032.8429 2357 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3033.1553 You wouldn't call it a- nothing else, but a- but I guess a flicker. 3035.8784 2358 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3035.8784 (pause 0.81) 3036.6898 2359 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3036.6898 But in your mind you're programmed to think it's a light switch. That's how our mind was programmed growing up. 3040.7407 2360 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3040.7407 (pause 0.94) 3041.6779 2361 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3041.6779 So my mother didn't say, go down into the Chinese store. She said, go to the carry out. 3045.0434 2362 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3045.0434 (pause 1.58) 3046.6241 2363 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3046.6241 So 3047.2396 2364 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3047.2396 (pause 1.03) 3048.2701 2365 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3048.2701 if you wanna talk /technicalically/ 3050.1026 2366 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3050.1026 (pause 0.64) 3050.7449 2367 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3050.7449 yes it- there are different. 3051.8687 2368 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3051.8687 (pause 1.91) 3053.7805 2369 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3053.7805 [Cause you-] 3054.1209 2370 DCB_int_01 3053.7805 [What's the] difference? 3054.6198 2371 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3054.6338 Okay. 3055.0255 2372 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3055.0255 (pause 1.02) 3056.0409 2373 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3056.0409 The carry out sells steak and cheese. They sell cigarettes. They sell um, 3059.9157 2374 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3059.9157 (pause 0.78) 3060.6944 2375 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3060.6944 3060.8483 2376 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3060.8483 (pause 0.28) 3061.1234 2377 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3061.1234 candy bars. They sell uh- 3063.3791 2378 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3063.3791 (pause 0.27) 3063.6496 2379 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3063.6496 What else do they- Pizza. 3064.8386 2380 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3064.8386 (pause 0.68) 3065.5147 2381 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3065.5147 They sell 3066.0976 2382 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3066.0976 (pause 0.22) 3066.3214 2383 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3066.3214 a variety of things. It's kind of like, 3068.3533 2384 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3068.3533 (pause 0.83) 3069.1786 2385 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3069.1786 I tell people- Like, if you go to Northwest, you have these different restaurants. You have what- 3073.2446 2386 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3073.2446 (pause 0.16) 3073.4032 2387 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3073.4032 The Florida Grill. You have 3074.8335 2388 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3074.8335 (pause 0.57) 3075.4024 2389 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3075.4024 um, /Cosis/ and all this stuff, but when you come to Southeast, all we have is the carry out. 3079.0675 2390 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3079.0675 (pause 1.06) 3080.1248 2391 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3080.1248 We don't have n- 3080.8708 2392 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3080.8708 (pause 0.19) 3081.0574 2393 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3081.0574 these restaurants that we're able to go to. 3083.1137 2394 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3083.1137 (pause 1.04) 3084.1535 2395 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3084.1535 Uh, except what- Do we have a McDonald's? Yeah, we have one McDonald's 3087.1973 2396 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3087.1973 (pause 1.51) 3088.7080 2397 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3088.7080 and 3089.4494 2398 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3089.4494 (pause 0.64) 3090.0882 2399 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3090.0882 a KFC or something like that. That's- that's all our restaurants that we have over here. 3093.3511 2400 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3093.3511 (pause 1.11) 3094.4609 2401 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3094.4609 That's why I said gentrification would be good cause we- they can give us these restaurants so we don't have to keep eating this junk food. 3099.3511 2402 DCB_int_01 3100.5308 What's your favorite carry out? 3101.6966 2403 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3102.2934 Uh, 3103.0208 2404 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3103.0208 (pause 0.42) 3103.4452 2405 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3103.4452 s- 3103.7704 2406 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3103.7704 (pause 0.28) 3104.0455 2407 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3104.0455 I'm'a have to say Eddie, 3104.7496 2408 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3104.7496 (pause 0.21) 3104.9548 2409 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3104.9548 Eddie /Lenox/, 3105.6076 2410 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3105.6076 (pause 0.69) 3106.2930 2411 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3106.2930 off of Alabama Avenue. 3107.3702 2412 DCB_int_01 3108.1162 Somebody else- I need to go try them. [Somebody] else told me that. 3111.0807 2413 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3109.9569 [Yeah.] 3110.2227 2414 DCB_int_01 3112.0785 Why? 3112.2930 2415 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3113.2023 I don't know. They chicken just taste good. 3114.5685 2416 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3114.5685 (pause 0.95) 3115.5198 2417 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3115.5198 [] 3116.6284 2418 DCB_int_01 3115.7611 [Okay.] 3116.2087 2419 DCB_int_01 3116.6937 Do you like mumbo sauce? 3117.8780 2420 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3117.9387 I don't- I'm- 3118.5122 2421 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3118.5122 (pause 1.09) 3119.6033 2422 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3119.6033 They can car- I don't like mumbo sauce. I never did. 3121.5151 2423 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3121.5151 (pause 0.51) 3122.0222 2424 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3122.0222 I'm not a sauce person anyway, but no, I don't like mumbo sauce. 3124.7289 2425 DCB_int_01 3125.6733 Is mumbo sauce unique to DC? 3127.1281 2426 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3127.1327 Of course it's unique to DC. 3128.3439 2427 DCB_int_01 3129.2765 You've never seen it anywhere [else?] 3130.5355 2428 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3130.2837 [Nowhere] else. E- even when I was up there, I said, Do y'all know what mumbo sauce is? They said, no, we never heard of it. 3134.0793 2429 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3134.4698 I brung my friend down here. He's- He's from Philly. 3136.3397 2430 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3136.3397 (pause 0.74) 3137.0811 2431 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3137.0811 He ha- The first time he had a steak and cheese, and he had mumbo sauce, he was hooked. 3140.6564 2432 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3140.6564 (pause 0.31) 3140.9688 2433 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3140.9688 He still talked about it to this day. He said, I got to come down there so I can get a steak and cheese. 3144.2328 2434 DCB_int_01 3145.2866 And mumbo sauce. 3146.0688 2435 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3146.0595 3147.1320 2436 DCB_int_01 3147.7801 So what is mumbo sauce? 3149.0904 2437 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3149.5474 I don't know what it is. They say it is a 3151.4405 2438 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3151.4405 (pause 0.62) 3152.0642 2439 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3152.0642 sweet sauce and hot sauce or something like that. I have no idea what it is. 3155.3189 2440 DCB_int_01 3155.8738 It's kind of just a mix of [stuff.] 3157.6596 2441 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3157.3472 [Yeah.] 3157.7296 2442 DCB_int_01 3158.6424 What else is unique to DC? I know you said the New Balance was kind of a DC thing, but that's not necessarily unique to DC. 3165.0853 2443 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3165.1366 Uh- Of course the language, the way we dress, 3167.5707 2444 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3167.5707 (pause 0.33) 3167.9017 2445 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3167.9017 um, 3168.4426 2446 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3168.4426 (pause 3.85) 3172.2884 2447 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3172.2884 I would say that's about it. 3173.3795 2448 DCB_int_01 3174.9835 What about go go music? 3176.1632 2449 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3176.1901 Oh man. How do I- ca- can I forget go go music? 3178.2324 2450 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3178.2324 (pause 0.23) 3178.4609 2451 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3178.4609 [] 3179.2303 2452 DCB_int_01 3178.6987 [That's why I'm here.] 3179.3842 2453 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3179.6733 Okay, growing up in DC right? 3181.3985 2454 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3181.3985 (pause 2.71) 3184.1065 2455 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3184.1065 We- When we go- When we go to parties or when we go to a club, 3187.5291 2456 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3187.5291 (pause 0.59) 3188.1155 2457 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3188.1155 we play- we played- I don't- Today is different. We played go go music. 3191.5334 2458 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3191.5334 (pause 0.81) 3192.3447 2459 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3192.3447 So, going- going to college, 3194.5165 2460 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3194.5165 (pause 0.65) 3195.1646 2461 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3195.1646 you would hear uh, Jay Z, 3197.0344 2462 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3197.0344 (pause 0.65) 3197.6872 2463 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3197.6872 um, 3198.2654 2464 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3198.2654 (pause 0.28) 3198.5452 2465 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3198.5452 Beyonce, you would hear that stuff at parties. I'm like, Okay, 3201.1460 2466 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3201.1460 (pause 0.27) 3201.4164 2467 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3201.4164 this is different. 3202.1065 2468 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3202.1065 (pause 0.41) 3202.5122 2469 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3202.5122 I never experienced hearing regular rap music at a party before. 3205.6363 2470 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3205.6363 (pause 0.81) 3206.4419 2471 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3206.4419 So that's how 3207.2579 2472 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3207.2579 (pause 0.55) 3207.8034 2473 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3207.8034 embedded or 3208.7686 2474 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3208.7686 (pause 0.25) 3209.0158 2475 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3209.0158 that's how 3209.5474 2476 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3209.5474 (pause 0.40) 3209.9484 2477 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3209.9484 go go is in DC. You don't h- You don't hear nothing else. 3212.5538 2478 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3212.5538 (pause 0.67) 3213.2252 2479 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3213.2252 Like riding around the street, all you hear is go go music. 3215.3282 2480 DCB_int_01 3216.5825 Can you describe go go music for me? 3218.6377 2481 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3218.7729 3219.4304 2482 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3219.4304 (pause 1.13) 3220.5635 2483 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3220.5635 Go go music is a- 3223.2073 2484 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3223.2073 (pause 0.59) 3223.7949 2485 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3223.7949 It's a certain type of music where 3225.5097 2486 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3225.5097 (pause 0.30) 3225.8081 2487 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3225.8081 they repeat- 3226.6334 2488 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3226.6334 (pause 0.65) 3227.2816 2489 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3227.2816 It's- It's called a call and response music. 3229.6352 2490 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3229.6352 (pause 2.47) 3232.1019 2491 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3232.1019 Like the beat is this- It's a lot of congos. 3234.5172 2492 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3234.5172 (pause 0.38) 3234.8949 2493 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3234.8949 That's basically what makes it different, the congos. 3236.8429 2494 DCB_int_01 3240.3027 What's your favorite go go band? 3242.0607 2495 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3242.3859 3242.5584 2496 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3242.5584 (pause 0.47) 3243.0247 2497 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3243.0247 I don't- I'm not a go go fan. 3244.2790 2498 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3244.2790 (pause 0.47) 3244.7453 2499 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3244.7453 That's another thing that- 3245.8504 2500 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3245.8504 (pause 1.04) 3246.8949 2501 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3246.8949 I don't like go go. 3247.6457 2502 DCB_int_01 3248.8289 You don't like go go? 3249.7428 2503 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3249.7381 Mm-mm. 3250.1298 2504 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3250.6987 As a child I never liked listening to it. 3252.4659 2505 DCB_int_01 3253.7529 But you used to 3254.3205 2506 DCB_int_01 3254.3205 (pause 0.25) 3254.5724 2507 DCB_int_01 3254.5724 party to go go. 3255.6496 2508 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3255.7288 I- I'm not a party person. I would be in the party 3258.0463 2509 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3258.0463 (pause 0.32) 3258.3680 2510 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3258.3680 while people was partying to it, 3259.8602 2511 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3259.8602 (pause 0.60) 3260.4605 2512 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3260.4605 listening to go go. I like the way the girls dance at go go though. I do like that. 3263.2909 2513 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3263.2909 (pause 0.18) 3263.4727 2514 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3263.4727 3264.5359 2515 DCB_int_01 3264.8250 So what's your most- What's your favorite memory 3267.1599 2516 DCB_int_01 3267.1599 (pause 0.41) 3267.5656 2517 DCB_int_01 3267.5656 at a go go, whether you were partying or looking at the girls or whatever you were doing. 3271.5944 2518 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3271.8602 Uh, that- that would be it, looking at the girls dance to g- to go go. Uh, 3275.4681 2519 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3275.4681 (pause 0.57) 3276.0416 2520 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3276.0416 a go go song that stands out to me- I'm not sure who's- who 3279.6402 2521 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3279.6402 (pause 0.36) 3279.9993 2522 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3279.9993 performed this song, but uh, 3281.3842 2523 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3281.3842 (pause 0.43) 3281.8131 2524 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3281.8131 when Project Pat came out with uh, 3283.5990 2525 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3283.5990 (pause 1.55) 3285.1506 2526 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3285.1506 I don't know if I c- Can I say it? 3286.1112 2527 DCB_int_01 3286.2184 Mm-hm. 3286.5542 2528 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3286.5961 Oh. Make Your Ass Clap, 3287.6499 2529 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3287.6499 (pause 1.69) 3289.3379 2530 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3289.3379 and the go go bands redid that song. That's- that was- that was when I was in junior high school. 3293.8504 2531 DCB_int_01 3294.7970 And that's what stands out [to you.] 3296.0607 2532 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3295.6911 [Yeah.] That's- that's the go go song that stands out. 3297.8734 2533 DCB_int_01 3299.2676 Where did you go? Like, where- I know you said they were- 3302.9501 2534 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3303.2392 [] 3303.4117 2535 DCB_int_01 3303.2579 [Did you] go to like, clubs, parties? 3305.2303 2536 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3304.4283 [Uh, you know-] I don't know if y- You- You should know. They have- they- they had- I don't know if they still have it. They had the go go parties. 3309.8594 2537 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3310.1252 Go go 3310.5821 2538 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3310.5821 (pause 0.38) 3310.9598 2539 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3310.9598 clubs. They had go go clubs for kids 3312.8763 2540 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3312.8763 (pause 0.29) 3313.1689 2541 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3313.1689 called the- You ever heard of the CFE? 3314.6097 2542 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3314.6097 (pause 0.82) 3315.4304 2543 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3315.4304 This was in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. They had th- They had the CFE. 3317.9717 2544 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3317.9717 (pause 0.48) 3318.4566 2545 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3318.4566 I don't renam- remember the names of other go go clubs, but 3321.0900 2546 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3321.0900 (pause 0.29) 3321.3791 2547 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3321.3791 um, as a child, I'm'a say /I/ was like, 3323.1976 2548 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3323.1976 (pause 0.65) 3323.8458 2549 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3323.8458 /about/ ten to thirteen years old, 3325.7902 2550 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3325.7902 (pause 0.52) 3326.3113 2551 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3326.3113 they had a lot of house parties. 3327.4537 2552 DCB_int_01 3327.9200 Mm-hm. 3328.3723 2553 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3328.3117 They had a lot of house parties where they would play go go. 3330.0276 2554 DCB_int_01 3331.1514 So obviously it was a big deal because they even marketed to the like, 3335.7618 2555 DCB_int_01 3335.7618 (pause 0.21) 3335.9763 2556 DCB_int_01 3335.9763 the 3336.1349 2557 DCB_int_01 3336.1349 (pause 0.21) 3336.3494 2558 DCB_int_01 3336.3494 teens and the younger people. 3338.5165 2559 DCB_int_01 3338.5165 (pause 0.62) 3339.1320 2560 DCB_int_01 3339.1320 But you were in Upper Marlboro, 3340.5308 2561 DCB_int_01 3340.5308 (pause 0.27) 3340.7966 2562 DCB_int_01 3340.7966 which was not DC, 3341.9157 2563 DCB_int_01 3341.9157 (pause 0.28) 3342.1908 2564 DCB_int_01 3342.1908 right? That's what you were just saying. They- 3343.6410 2565 DCB_int_01 3343.6410 (pause 0.25) 3343.8928 2566 DCB_int_01 3343.8928 Is- This [was- Club was in DC?] 3345.4397 2567 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3344.4652 [Yeah, but you know, we-] we d- we didn't have clubs 3346.6334 2568 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3346.9365 in the- in the area. So that's w- 3348.0043 2569 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3348.0043 (pause 0.19) 3348.1908 2570 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3348.1908 that's where we have to travel to to go to a club. 3350.0700 2571 DCB_int_01 3350.3952 Do you still consider that the DC area though? 3352.1998 2572 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3352.5448 D- Whatchu mean, DC area? 3353.7245 2573 DCB_int_01 3353.8365 Like, Upper Marlboro, do you still consider that DC? 3356.1819 2574 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3356.7496 No. 3357.0387 2575 DCB_int_01 3357.4351 [That's-] 3357.9573 2576 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3357.4397 [I con- I] consider DC DC. When I- 3359.5194 2577 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3361.4218 If you- if you grew up in DC, 3362.8755 2578 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3362.8755 (pause 0.16) 3363.0340 2579 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3363.0340 when you go to Maryland, that's Maryland. 3364.4935 2580 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3364.4935 (pause 0.24) 3364.7313 2581 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3364.7313 You don't- you don't- 3365.6033 2582 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3365.6033 (pause 0.79) 3366.3913 2583 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3366.3913 you don't say, This is DC. 3367.9161 2584 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3367.9161 (pause 0.92) 3368.8335 2585 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3368.8335 So, if somebody- Even if it's across the street, 3371.1184 2586 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3371.1184 (pause 0.79) 3371.9111 2587 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3371.9111 if somebody says, 3372.9929 2588 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3372.9929 (pause 1.01) 3373.9989 2589 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3373.9989 I'm- I'm about to go to Maryland. W- I'm'a walk across the street. 3376.3443 2590 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3376.3443 (pause 0.83) 3377.1697 2591 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3377.1697 3377.5287 2592 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3377.5287 (pause 0.38) 3377.9064 2593 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3377.9064 If somebody from there across the street, say, I'm from DC, we say, No, you're not. You're from Maryland. 3381.2905 2594 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3381.2905 (pause 1.09) 3382.3816 2595 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3382.3816 People from Maryland um, 3384.0649 2596 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3384.0649 (pause 0.56) 3384.6291 2597 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3384.6291 they will say, No, that's- that's still DC. We say, No it's not. Because if you- 3388.1345 2598 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3388.1345 (pause 0.48) 3388.6194 2599 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3388.6194 If you go to this place, 3389.7479 2600 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3389.7479 (pause 0.12) 3389.8691 2601 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3389.8691 and it looks- To me, it looks suburban. 3391.5944 2602 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3391.5944 (pause 0.87) 3392.4652 2603 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3392.4652 Like uh, 3393.3511 2604 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3393.3511 (pause 0.58) 3393.9293 2605 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3393.9293 what's- what's those areas? Um, District Heights, 3398.0933 2606 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3398.0933 (pause 0.15) 3398.2460 2607 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3398.2460 Suitland, 3398.9221 2608 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3398.9221 (pause 0.38) 3399.2998 2609 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3399.2998 those areas to me, those are suburban. 3400.9225 2610 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3400.9225 (pause 1.15) 3402.0743 2611 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3402.0743 So, when I would come back home to DC, I see the neighborhoods. 3405.5003 2612 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3405.5003 (pause 0.72) 3406.2231 2613 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3406.2231 I see how my neighborhoods look, and I go /there/, okay. I'm like, Okay, this is suburban. It's quiet. 3410.2985 2614 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3410.2985 (pause 0.39) 3410.6890 2615 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3410.6890 You have these s- nice little streets. 3412.3163 2616 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3412.3163 (pause 0.66) 3412.9738 2617 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3412.9738 But 3413.2396 2618 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3413.2396 (pause 0.37) 3413.6126 2619 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3413.6126 growing up, grow- g- I grew up so I notice that those are- those are not really suburban areas, 3417.6542 2620 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3417.6542 (pause 0.53) 3418.1858 2621 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3418.1858 but you have your uh, Largo. You have your Upper Marlboro. 3421.0255 2622 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3421.0255 (pause 0.10) 3421.1281 2623 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3421.1281 You have those areas. Those are more suburban. 3422.8708 2624 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3422.8708 (pause 0.58) 3423.4490 2625 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3423.4490 But grow- As a child, 3424.7267 2626 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3424.7267 (pause 0.86) 3425.5847 2627 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3425.5847 to me, no. Tho- those- You was from Maryland. 3427.5104 2628 DCB_int_01 3427.8030 That's Maryland. That's not DC [at all.] 3429.4257 2629 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3429.0760 [Mm-mm.] 3429.4304 2630 DCB_int_01 3429.8967 And what about Virginia? Is that just a whole [different animal?] 3432.3773 2631 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3431.6499 [I- I have] no idea. 3433.0488 2632 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3433.4114 It j- I told you. I- [I never knew] about Virginia until I started working there. 3436.8386 2633 DCB_int_01 3434.6144 [] 3435.1366 2634 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3437.2862 So I don't know what's going on in- I never knew what was going on in Virginia. 3440.1166 2635 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3440.1166 (pause 0.40) 3440.5118 2636 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3440.5118 Um, 3441.0061 2637 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3441.0061 (pause 0.35) 3441.3511 2638 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3441.3511 not- Like I said, when I would think of Virginia, I'd just think of white- white people live there. 3445.1421 2639 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3445.1421 (pause 0.19) 3445.3332 2640 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3445.3332 I didn't know that 3446.1166 2641 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3446.1166 (pause 0.16) 3446.2740 2642 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3446.2740 black people lived in Virginia. 3447.3371 2643 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3447.3371 (pause 0.88) 3448.2184 2644 DCB_se2_ag2_m_01 3448.2184 I didn't know that until I- got a- til I got older. 3450.6758 2645 DCB_int_01 3451.9348 Okay. 3452.3205