Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.5642 And your birthday? 1.5018 2 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2.1733 December fifteenth. 3.5012 3 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3.5012 (pause 0.50) 4.0017 4 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 4.0017 You need the year? 4.6657 5 DCB_int_01 4.6891 [Please.] 5.2296 6 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 5.0294 [Oh] gosh. 5.8435 7 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 6.3006 Nineteen eighty-six. 7.5960 8 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 7.5960 (pause 0.11) 7.7062 9 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 7.7062 8.4068 10 DCB_int_01 10.2453 Awesome. Where were you born? 11.5499 11 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 12.1872 Um, I was born in Arlington Hospital actually. 16.0084 12 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 16.0084 (pause 1.17) 17.1795 13 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 17.1795 Arlington, Virginia. 18.1471 14 DCB_int_01 20.5103 What neighborhood do you claim? 21.7248 15 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 23.0060 Um, so, I'm DMV. 26.1766 16 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 26.1766 (pause 0.13) 26.3101 17 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 26.3101 That's what I tell everybody, [I'm DMV.] 28.3840 18 DCB_int_01 27.5479 [Mk- Mkay.] 28.3854 19 DCB_int_01 29.7901 Um, have you ever lived in DC proper? 31.5760 20 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 32.9140 No, never actually lived in DC, have a lot of family in DC, so 37.8963 21 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 37.8963 (pause 0.20) 38.0999 22 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 38.0999 kind of like stayed at grandma's house in DC but never actually lived in DC. 41.6366 23 DCB_int_01 41.6233 Okay. 41.9620 24 DCB_int_01 42.1471 And where do you stay? 43.1271 25 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 44.0031 Um, right now I'm in Maryland, in, um, Temple Hills, [Maryland, so.] 48.4241 26 DCB_int_01 47.7768 [Mm-hm.] 48.0768 27 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 48.9721 PG County. 49.7896 28 DCB_int_01 49.9831 I know, y- yup. 50.7939 29 DCB_int_01 50.7939 (pause 6.17) 56.9640 30 DCB_int_01 56.9640 Where'd you go to school? 57.6681 31 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 58.9827 Um, 59.4932 32 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 59.4932 (pause 0.29) 59.7835 33 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 59.7835 I went to school a couple places, mainly in Maryland. [Um,] 62.7372 34 DCB_int_01 62.0988 [Hm.] 62.2411 35 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 63.3044 I was born in Virginia 64.5055 36 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 64.5055 (pause 0.17) 64.6724 37 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 64.6724 because 65.3897 38 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 65.3897 (pause 0.16) 65.5499 39 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 65.5499 my- 66.3273 40 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 66.3273 (pause 0.23) 66.5575 41 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 66.5575 my mom's family and my father's family are actually from Alexandria. 69.6480 42 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 69.6480 (pause 0.50) 70.1452 43 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 70.1452 Um, they're from O town. But then we moved to Temple Hills just as I was born. So with 76.1852 44 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 76.1852 (pause 0.49) 76.6757 45 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 76.6757 family still being in Alexandria then moving into Temple Hills, uh, I went to school in Maryland. I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/, 83.5766 46 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 83.5766 (pause 0.63) 84.2072 47 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 84.2072 uh, /RD-SCHOOL-6/ and /RD-SCHOOL-8/, 88.2653 48 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 88.2653 (pause 0.60) 88.8692 49 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 88.8692 which ironically like, 90.3582 50 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 90.3582 (pause 0.23) 90.5884 51 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 90.5884 my kids are going to now. It's so [funny.] 92.6380 52 DCB_int_01 95.0227 And what do you do? 95.7568 53 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 96.4608 I'm a wedding planner. 97.4718 54 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 97.4718 (pause 0.25) 97.7228 55 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 97.7228 I do weddings and events. I started my own business, it'll be four years in January. 102.3104 56 DCB_int_01 103.1323 Do you love it? 103.6628 57 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 103.8430 I absolutely freaking love it, it's so awesome. 107.1283 58 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 107.1283 (pause 0.41) 107.5399 59 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 107.5399 Especially in this area. 108.4941 60 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 108.4941 (pause 0.14) 108.6343 61 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 108.6343 It's really fun. 109.3449 62 DCB_int_01 109.7862 I can [imagine.] 110.5203 63 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 110.4235 [Yeah.] 110.7082 64 DCB_int_01 111.1943 I used to work at a bridal shop, 112.5789 65 DCB_int_01 112.5789 (pause 0.11) 112.6891 66 DCB_int_01 112.6891 um, and I just love- I love that aspect of it. 115.9230 67 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 115.9330 Yeah. 116.2767 68 DCB_int_01 116.5703 Um, and I'm not a 117.9617 69 DCB_int_01 117.9617 (pause 0.34) 118.3020 70 DCB_int_01 118.3020 super detail detail orient person, I could never probably do events. 121.1314 71 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 121.2424 Yeah. 121.5837 72 DCB_int_01 121.5527 But I love getting them ready and hearing about their 123.9150 73 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 123.8883 [Yeah.] 124.5669 74 DCB_int_01 124.1952 [big day.] And so they would bring in little things to talk about it, and I'm just like, oh my god I love this. (whispered) 128.5286 75 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 128.5637 Yeah, it's- it's very exciting for everyone involved because it's like, 133.1166 76 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 133.1166 (pause 1.01) 134.1266 77 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 134.1266 everybody wants a reason to celebrate. 135.6981 78 DCB_int_01 135.7682 [Mm.] 136.0985 79 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 135.9116 [And] then you have this 137.2629 80 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 137.3664 big moment, and everybody's going all out to celebrate it. It's just really beautiful to see people in love. 142.7358 81 DCB_int_01 143.3130 [So what-] 143.6717 82 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 143.3697 [Yeah.] 143.6700 83 DCB_int_01 143.8268 uh, and this is not e- we not even in the question section yet, but 146.0965 84 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 146.0899 146.3067 85 DCB_int_01 146.4168 what got you into- 147.4979 86 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 148.1952 Um, 148.8492 87 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 148.8492 (pause 0.31) 149.1628 88 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 149.1628 what- well, um, it's funny because 151.5860 89 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 151.5860 (pause 0.42) 152.0098 90 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 152.0098 I didn't- it's not like I went to school for it or anything. I always wanted to do events, I actually worked for a catering company for a little while, R and R Catering based in Springfield. 160.4305 91 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 160.4305 (pause 0.46) 160.8892 92 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 160.8892 And I liked it, but I- I just wanted to be more hands on in the planning part of it. 165.5846 93 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 165.5846 (pause 0.67) 166.2520 94 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 166.2520 I was working for a used appliance store when I decided to start my business. So I was nowhere near on the scale of what I wanted to do. 174.7511 95 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 174.7511 (pause 0.36) 175.1089 96 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 175.1089 I just decided, you know. And because I was working for a small business owner I was like, hey, he- he got this store, 180.6343 97 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 180.6343 (pause 0.58) 181.2190 98 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 181.2190 if he can do it, I can do it. 182.7438 99 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 182.7438 (pause 0.16) 182.9040 100 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 182.9040 You know, I'm helping him run his business, I can do a business. 185.9236 101 DCB_int_01 186.0370 Mm-hm. 186.3544 102 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 186.5308 So I kind of just put myself out there. Craigslist 188.5103 103 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 188.5103 (pause 0.36) 188.8673 104 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 188.8673 helped me get my first gig, 190.1085 105 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 190.1085 (pause 0.15) 190.2586 106 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 190.2586 um, as a wedding planner. It was a lady, um, 192.9946 107 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 192.9946 (pause 0.78) 193.7762 108 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 193.7762 she had posted a ad saying that she was looking for a day of coordinator, no experience needed, um, she was gonna help somebody start their portfolio. 201.1008 109 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 201.1008 (pause 0.60) 201.7048 110 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 201.7048 She interviewed me via Skype, 203.6834 111 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 203.6834 (pause 0.16) 203.8402 112 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 203.8402 I got it, her wedding ended up being this beautiful 207.2677 113 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 207.2677 (pause 0.11) 207.3811 114 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 207.3811 Ritz Carlton wedding in Pentagon City. And the girl was a model. 212.2033 115 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 212.2033 (pause 0.47) 212.6704 116 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 212.6704 Like, 212.9073 117 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 212.9073 (pause 0.28) 213.1843 118 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 213.1843 real live like, 214.0518 119 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 214.0518 (pause 0.47) 214.5189 120 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 214.5189 cover of magazines like, she's a model. 216.3907 121 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 216.3907 (pause 0.72) 217.1122 122 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 217.1122 And so her pictures just came out- Her wedding, everything, it was just so gorgeous. And I think in that moment like, 223.3249 123 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 223.3249 (pause 0.66) 223.9831 124 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 223.9831 once it started coming together and I could see that I could actually do this, like I could put something together like this, like I was able to help her, I was like, I could do this. And I just- 231.7281 125 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 231.7281 (pause 0.44) 232.1652 126 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 232.1652 I- I 232.6190 127 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 232.6190 (pause 0.21) 232.8325 128 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 232.8325 started researching how to start my business. And that year I took some classes, um, 237.7948 129 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 237.7948 (pause 0.20) 237.9984 130 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 237.9984 238.0918 131 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 238.0918 (pause 0.20) 238.2887 132 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 238.2887 like registering my business and all of that and 240.5817 133 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 240.5817 (pause 0.47) 241.0522 134 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 241.0522 I been rolling ever since. 242.2233 135 DCB_int_01 242.3935 Is she the quote in your e-mail? 243.7315 136 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 244.2753 Um, [she- it- th-] 245.9002 137 DCB_int_01 245.2763 [Is that the testimonial?] 246.3016 138 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 246.1571 [No], that's actually another bride that I did. Th- um, /RD-NAME-3/ is the- is the quote in my e-mail. /RD-NAME-3/ was so amazing. Um, she came to me and it was like maybe like four months before her wedding and she was just like, 258.4207 139 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 259.2290 I know it's gonna be good but I don't think it's gonna come together like I i- like I have it in my mind. She was like, I'm just afraid that everything won't come together. 266.9040 140 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 266.9040 (pause 0.33) 267.2343 141 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 267.2343 She was so nervous that on her wedding day, 269.4965 142 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 269.4965 (pause 0.70) 270.1972 143 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 270.1972 this girl was literally trying to cut bangs into her hair. 272.5470 144 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 272.5470 (pause 0.50) 273.0475 145 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 273.0475 She was like, 273.7955 146 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 273.7955 (pause 0.42) 274.2186 147 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 274.2186 I don't know, I hate my hair, I think I'm gonna cut bangs into it. Like, that's- 277.8396 148 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 277.8396 (pause 0.32) 278.1599 149 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 278.1599 that's how anxious people get before their [wedding.] They're like- 280.8259 150 DCB_int_01 279.9684 [Right.] 280.3254 151 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 281.8468 Like, girl you've never wanted bangs [before, why do you] want bangs now? No, I'm not gonna let you cut bangs into your hair before you walk down the aisle. Just cool out, 289.6461 152 DCB_int_01 283.7395 [Ever.] 284.1062 153 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 289.7829 everything's fine, you look beautiful, it's okay. 292.3487 154 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 292.3487 (pause 0.47) 292.8158 155 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 292.8158 Like that- that's the quote in my e-mail, I love her. 295.0981 156 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 295.0981 (pause 0.54) 295.6361 157 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 295.6361 Yeah. 295.9430 158 DCB_int_01 296.3001 Wow. 296.7405 159 DCB_int_01 296.7405 (pause 0.19) 296.9340 160 DCB_int_01 296.9340 Um, 297.5379 161 DCB_int_01 297.5379 (pause 0.14) 297.6814 162 DCB_int_01 297.6814 okay so we're gonna talk a lot more about that cause I think that's amazing, and I'm sure you have some crazy stories. 302.1266 163 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 302.1833 [Yes.] 302.8973 164 DCB_int_01 302.5303 [Um], where were your parents born? 304.1919 165 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 304.6357 Um, 305.0761 166 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 305.0761 (pause 0.19) 305.2663 167 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 305.2663 both my mom and dad were born in [Alexandria.] 307.4000 168 DCB_int_01 307.2424 [Okay] they both were. And that's what I- You said they grew up there so I was wondering if they were born there as well. 311.0194 169 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 311.1495 Yup. 311.4264 170 DCB_int_01 312.7018 And what do your parents do? 313.8730 171 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 314.7839 Um, my dad has his CDO so he does t- uh, like, kind of like the dump truck 319.6194 172 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 319.6194 (pause 0.14) 319.7562 173 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 319.7562 [drivers] that 320.9373 174 DCB_int_01 319.9164 [Mm-hm.] 320.3034 175 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 321.4579 you see all over DC right now. 323.3897 176 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 323.3897 (pause 0.13) 323.5174 177 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 323.5174 [] 324.0037 178 DCB_int_01 323.6467 [I do] mm-hm, construction everywhere. 325.4653 179 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 325.4893 Yeah. 325.9697 180 DCB_int_01 326.1799 What does your mom do? 326.7972 181 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 327.2343 Um, my mom manages a deli at a grocery store. 330.4808 182 DCB_int_01 330.5008 Okay. 330.8078 183 DCB_int_01 330.8078 (pause 5.72) 336.5283 184 DCB_int_01 336.5283 Excellent. 336.9843 185 DCB_int_01 336.9843 (pause 0.54) 337.5226 186 DCB_int_01 337.5226 I think that's all I have for right now /on/ 339.3911 187 DCB_int_01 339.3911 (pause 0.25) 339.6380 188 DCB_int_01 339.6380 the writing piece. 340.4688 189 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 340.7992 [Okay.] 341.0761 190 DCB_int_01 340.9426 [So,] 341.4698 191 DCB_int_01 342.1004 tell me a little bit about 343.6361 192 DCB_int_01 343.6361 (pause 0.22) 343.8530 193 DCB_int_01 343.8530 344.2250 194 DCB_int_01 344.2250 (pause 0.27) 344.4936 195 DCB_int_01 344.4936 growing up. So you moved out. 346.1385 196 DCB_int_01 346.1385 (pause 0.37) 346.5122 197 DCB_int_01 346.5122 [So you were in] Alexandria but you p- you were really little. 348.6309 198 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 346.5597 [Mm-hm.] 346.8354 199 DCB_int_01 348.8353 And- 349.1056 200 DCB_int_01 349.1056 (pause 0.10) 349.2023 201 DCB_int_01 349.2023 [or Arlington], so then you moved to Temple Hills but that's probably what you remember. 352.1285 202 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 349.2090 [Yeah.] 349.5983 203 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 352.3654 Yeah, so th- Okay, 354.4641 204 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 354.4641 (pause 0.24) 354.7010 205 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 354.7010 um, 355.3458 206 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 355.3458 (pause 0.84) 356.1900 207 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 356.1900 and m- this is just my story, so I'm gonna put- Cause I'm a [a hundred] percent honest [person.] 360.7110 208 DCB_int_01 359.0761 [Put it out there.] 359.6374 209 DCB_int_01 359.6374 (pause 0.82) 360.4574 210 DCB_int_01 360.4574 [Put it out] th- I love it. 361.4521 211 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 361.4626 Um, 361.9430 212 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 361.9430 (pause 0.44) 362.3868 213 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 362.3868 so, my mom 364.5256 214 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 364.5256 (pause 0.43) 364.9593 215 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 364.9593 had me when she was fifteen. 366.4307 216 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 366.4307 (pause 0.83) 367.2590 217 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 367.2590 My grandparents became my parents. They kind of were like, you know what, 371.2830 218 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 371.2830 (pause 0.19) 371.4731 219 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 371.4731 we're gonna take her, 372.7177 220 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 372.7177 (pause 0.36) 373.0822 221 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 373.0822 you don't know what you're doing. So I was- 374.8039 222 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 374.8039 (pause 0.12) 374.9240 223 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 374.9240 You know, at the time my grandparents, they hadn't expected a new child. 378.9813 224 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 378.9813 (pause 0.46) 379.4426 225 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 379.4426 They- they were- 380.6938 226 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 380.6938 (pause 0.21) 380.9040 227 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 380.9040 their children were teenagers, they weren't expecting a new child. So they- 384.6977 228 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 384.6977 (pause 0.65) 385.3525 229 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 385.3525 they went ahead and 386.3034 230 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 386.3034 (pause 0.20) 386.5036 231 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 386.5036 got a house in Temple Hills, Maryland to move to. Um, they left their- th- my- they had two children, uh, my uncle and my mom, 394.1485 232 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 394.1485 (pause 0.35) 394.4989 233 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 394.4989 and they left, uh, their son there cause he was about eighteen, nineteen. And, you know, 399.3344 234 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 399.3344 (pause 0.42) 399.7581 235 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 399.7581 my mom and I we went, 401.1595 236 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 401.1595 (pause 0.46) 401.6200 237 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 401.6200 uh, to Temple Hills, so that is the part that I do remember. 404.6804 238 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 404.6804 (pause 0.37) 405.0475 239 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 405.0475 But, um, my grandparents raised me. So, 408.0771 240 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 408.0771 (pause 0.36) 408.4349 241 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 408.4349 I grew up in a household where 411.0341 242 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 411.0341 (pause 0.91) 411.9483 243 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 411.9483 they weren't really parents because they were grandparents. 414.8278 244 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 414.8278 (pause 0.33) 415.1623 245 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 415.1623 Like they parented me, they gave me wisdom, they ga- 417.7982 246 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 417.7982 (pause 0.25) 418.0518 247 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 418.0518 they grandparented me, I [should say.] 420.1171 248 DCB_int_01 419.5566 [Mm.] 419.9369 249 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 420.4875 And so, 421.5151 250 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 421.5151 (pause 0.22) 421.7328 251 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 421.7328 I kind of- 422.9340 252 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 422.9340 (pause 0.53) 423.4679 253 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 423.4679 423.5379 254 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 423.5379 (pause 0.64) 424.1752 255 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 424.1752 I grew up with this really kind of older world view. 428.4602 256 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 428.4602 (pause 0.61) 429.0708 257 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 429.0708 Uh, my great-grandmother was ar- live when I was young, my great-great-grandmother was alive when I [was young,] 433.6161 258 DCB_int_01 433.2924 [Oh wow.] 433.9208 259 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 433.7462 [and] she was born in nineteen eleven. 435.5947 260 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 436.1419 Um, she, too was from Virginia and, um, 440.1165 261 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 440.1165 (pause 0.21) 440.3301 262 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 440.3301 you know, a lot of 441.7214 263 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 441.7214 (pause 0.11) 441.8282 264 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 441.8282 my mother, you know, family is from Virginia. 444.2673 265 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 444.2673 (pause 0.39) 444.6576 266 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 444.6576 Uh, my grandmother is actually from North Carolina so I have roots down there too, it's like 448.9927 267 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 448.9927 (pause 0.16) 449.1495 268 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 449.1495 this- this funny blend. 450.6918 269 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 450.6918 (pause 0.57) 451.2590 270 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 451.2590 My grandfather was in the Air Force and that's how he met my grandmother, so they- 454.5189 271 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 454.5189 (pause 0.54) 455.0594 272 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 455.0594 they kind of- um, 456.5642 273 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 456.5642 (pause 0.64) 457.2023 274 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 457.2023 457.2590 275 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 457.2590 (pause 0.35) 457.6061 276 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 457.6061 they taught me everything I knew. 458.8773 277 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 458.8773 (pause 0.62) 459.4979 278 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 459.4979 But at the same time- Um, I was the eldest of four children, my mom just kept 463.6728 279 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 463.6728 (pause 0.25) 463.9264 280 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 463.9264 going along having kids. So, um, 466.3587 281 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 466.3587 (pause 1.09) 467.4498 282 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 467.4498 I was always independent, in charge of everybody else, kind of in a leadership position 472.8492 283 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 472.8492 (pause 0.15) 473.0027 284 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 473.0027 early. 473.4765 285 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 473.4765 (pause 0.21) 473.6900 286 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 473.6900 Um, 474.2906 287 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 474.2906 (pause 1.10) 475.3892 288 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 475.3892 what I remember though, specifically, about 478.8125 289 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 478.8125 (pause 0.13) 478.9426 290 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 478.9426 growing up in the DC, Maryland, Virginia area is that people would always aks you 484.5956 291 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 484.5956 (pause 0.42) 485.0127 292 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 485.0127 where you're from. 485.8335 293 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 485.8335 (pause 0.82) 486.6576 294 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 486.6576 And 487.3725 295 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 487.3725 (pause 0.19) 487.5627 296 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 487.5627 the thing about it is, DC at the time had this 491.6934 297 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 491.6934 (pause 0.13) 491.8268 298 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 491.8268 era of pride 493.5727 299 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 493.5727 (pause 0.50) 494.0698 300 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 494.0698 where if you were from DC you were automatically better than being from Maryland or Virginia. 500.5536 301 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 500.5536 (pause 0.50) 501.0541 302 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 501.0541 You were more credible somehow, you were more cool somehow, your swag was better, 506.5870 303 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 506.5870 (pause 0.27) 506.8606 304 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 506.8606 ev- 507.0908 305 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 507.0908 (pause 0.18) 507.2743 306 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 507.2743 If you could claim DC, it was a thing that- that people would do. 512.4636 307 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 512.4636 (pause 0.39) 512.8539 308 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 512.8539 Like, it was almost like, um- 514.8259 309 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 514.8259 (pause 0.82) 515.6433 310 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 515.6433 And it's funny because they used to say Maryland girls were bamas. 518.9707 311 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 518.9707 (pause 0.32) 519.2910 312 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 519.2910 And I know that's like one of the terms, I read it on the website, that people say they didn't 524.2033 313 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 524.2033 (pause 0.38) 524.5837 314 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 524.5837 really know was a DC term. But th- yeah, they would call Maryland girls bamas because DC girls had this city swag. 531.6881 315 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 531.6881 (pause 0.85) 532.5422 316 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 532.5422 And, um, 533.4832 317 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 533.4832 (pause 0.21) 533.6967 318 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 533.6967 the thing about DC 535.3550 319 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 535.3550 (pause 0.57) 535.9297 320 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 535.9297 and their pride and- and one of the reasons that I think like, DC was kind of hyped up in the head like they were is because we've always 544.4755 321 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 544.4755 (pause 0.48) 544.9526 322 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 544.9526 had our own 546.0637 323 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 546.0637 (pause 0.49) 546.5509 324 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 546.5509 culture. Like, we've always had our own thing going. 550.0217 325 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 550.0217 (pause 1.50) 551.5199 326 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 551.5199 Forget the rest of the nation, we are the closest to the Capital. 554.8760 327 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 554.8760 (pause 0.62) 555.4912 328 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 555.4912 Who do you think is gonna know if they government goes on strike first? 558.6985 329 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 558.6985 (pause 0.30) 559.0021 330 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 559.0021 Somebody in a small town in Oklahoma or the people in the city? 561.9050 331 DCB_int_01 562.2720 Mm. 562.6657 332 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 562.7858 We know (laughing) what's going on in the world, we know what's going on in our country 566.9140 333 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 566.9140 (pause 0.33) 567.2410 334 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 567.2410 cause we're here in the /midst/ of it. We're right next to the President, we d- we have no choice but to know what's going on. 573.0708 335 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 573.0708 (pause 0.36) 573.4278 336 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 573.4278 So it always put us- 574.8425 337 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 574.8425 (pause 0.41) 575.2529 338 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 575.2529 You know, 575.8929 339 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 575.8929 (pause 0.59) 576.4875 340 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 576.4875 we were in our own world. 577.8430 341 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 577.8430 (pause 0.19) 578.0365 342 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 578.0365 DC had it's own thing going. We weren't worried about New York. 581.7367 343 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 581.7367 (pause 0.32) 582.0570 344 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 582.0570 New York had it's fashion, New York was fashion capital. Okay whatever, DC implemented it's own [style.] 587.4698 345 DCB_int_01 587.0461 [] 587.4364 346 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 587.9436 Um, you know, even to the point where- you know, where you look at Baltimore and DC and it's such a distinction there. 595.3183 347 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 595.3183 (pause 0.36) 595.6761 348 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 595.6761 Because Baltimore actually did decide to take more of a New York 599.8769 349 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 599.8769 (pause 0.17) 600.0504 350 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 600.0504 take 600.4941 351 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 600.4941 (pause 0.39) 600.8820 352 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 600.8820 to how they approach culture. 602.6604 353 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 602.6604 (pause 0.23) 602.8906 354 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 602.8906 Whereas DC had it's own thing, and that's why there's still a distinction between Baltimore and DC. 608.0231 355 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 608.0231 (pause 0.82) 608.8406 356 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 608.8406 Um, 609.5613 357 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 609.5613 (pause 1.70) 611.2596 358 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 611.2596 another thing 612.1638 359 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 612.1638 (pause 0.26) 612.4241 360 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 612.4241 like, 612.8945 361 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 612.8945 (pause 0.29) 613.1823 362 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 613.1823 growing up in DC 614.4569 363 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 614.4569 (pause 0.19) 614.6437 364 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 614.6437 people don't understand, people aks about go go music. 617.8824 365 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 617.8824 (pause 0.48) 618.3615 366 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 618.3615 They have no clue. They don't understand what it is, what it means, why we love it, 623.9202 367 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 623.9202 (pause 0.21) 624.1338 368 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 624.1338 what it is. 624.9888 369 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 624.9888 (pause 0.76) 625.7495 370 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 625.7495 Um, the reason why go go was so 628.4822 371 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 628.4822 (pause 0.16) 628.6457 372 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 628.6457 popular growing up because 630.6243 373 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 630.6243 (pause 0.14) 630.7677 374 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 630.7677 it was our artist. 631.8397 375 DCB_int_01 632.3901 Mm. 632.6237 376 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 632.8973 It was people that were our brothers, our cousins, our- 635.8135 377 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 635.8135 (pause 0.30) 636.1171 378 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 636.1171 our family members. These were people that we knew, these were neighborhood members 640.0227 379 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 640.0227 (pause 0.31) 640.3287 380 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 640.3287 forming bands and singing about our neighborhoods in the songs. 644.4402 381 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 644.4402 (pause 0.29) 644.7338 382 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 644.7338 I tell people- I also do Lyft part time, so 647.1962 383 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 647.1962 (pause 0.36) 647.5532 384 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 647.5532 I tell, um, 648.5642 385 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 648.5642 (pause 0.20) 648.7686 386 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 648.7686 gentrifiers, as they're called, when they get in my vehicle, um, when they aks me about DC, I say, if you hear 655.6461 387 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 655.6461 (pause 0.45) 656.0965 388 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 656.0965 the name of your street mentioned in a- 658.6257 389 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 658.6257 (pause 0.31) 658.9360 390 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 658.9360 a- 659.0361 391 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 659.0361 (pause 0.20) 659.2329 392 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 659.2329 a old go go song, just know your neighborhood used to be 662.6337 393 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 662.6337 (pause 0.19) 662.8272 394 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 662.8272 hood. 663.2677 395 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 663.2677 (pause 0.45) 663.7148 396 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 663.7148 It's nothing wrong with that. 664.8592 397 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 664.8592 (pause 0.12) 664.9760 398 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 664.9760 Just know, 665.6867 399 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 665.6867 (pause 0.34) 666.0270 400 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 666.0270 that whatever street you're on, 667.6094 401 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 667.6094 (pause 0.30) 667.9063 402 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 667.9063 if it was mentioned 669.0842 403 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 669.0842 (pause 0.36) 669.4412 404 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 669.4412 by Backyard, 670.6924 405 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 670.6924 (pause 0.32) 671.0127 406 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 671.0127 RE, 671.9670 407 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 671.9670 (pause 0.35) 672.3173 408 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 672.3173 any of those bands back in the day, 674.3401 409 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 674.3401 (pause 0.30) 674.6404 410 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 674.6404 just know there's a reason why that name is in that song. 677.2863 411 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 677.2863 (pause 0.33) 677.6166 412 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 677.6166 These were neighborhoods that people rep, these were streets that people would die for, these are people that- 683.0160 413 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 683.0160 (pause 0.34) 683.3597 414 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 683.3597 The- 683.5833 415 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 683.5833 (pause 0.18) 683.7668 416 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 683.7668 they were fighting. 684.7210 417 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 684.7210 (pause 0.67) 685.3892 418 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 685.3892 These were actual like, neighborhoods that were against each other, and you can hear each neighborhood named in 692.3268 419 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 692.3268 (pause 0.33) 692.6571 420 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 692.6571 one of these go go songs. 694.1485 421 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 694.1485 (pause 0.58) 694.7291 422 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 694.7291 That's one of the reasons why there were so many fights at the go gos. There were so many fights cause they would start calling out one territory, 702.0337 423 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 702.0337 (pause 0.51) 702.5450 424 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 702.5450 another territory would get upset. 704.0598 425 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 704.0598 (pause 0.22) 704.2834 426 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 704.2834 And even within DC they had their own factions. 707.1762 427 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 707.1762 (pause 0.91) 708.0904 428 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 708.0904 There was uptown 709.2182 429 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 709.2182 (pause 1.10) 710.3167 430 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 710.3167 guys. 711.0274 431 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 711.0274 (pause 0.40) 711.4312 432 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 711.4312 And, 712.0518 433 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 712.0518 (pause 0.21) 712.2653 434 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 712.2653 you know, 712.6757 435 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 712.6757 (pause 0.16) 712.8325 436 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 712.8325 the Southeast 713.7167 437 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 713.7167 (pause 0.21) 713.9303 438 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 713.9303 crew. 714.3807 439 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 714.3807 (pause 0.29) 714.6710 440 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 714.6710 And then, you know, 715.9397 441 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 715.9397 (pause 0.57) 716.5069 442 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 716.5069 nobody- nobody really, you know, wanted to say it, but the only real difference was 723.6814 443 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 723.6814 (pause 0.37) 724.0484 444 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 724.0484 the fact that the uptown 725.9436 445 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 725.9436 (pause 0.26) 726.2072 446 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 726.2072 or the, 726.7944 447 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 726.7944 (pause 0.16) 726.9588 448 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 726.9588 you know, the crew that was in the north was really just- 729.6647 449 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 729.6647 (pause 0.60) 730.2653 450 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 730.2653 they were around more schools and education, they were 733.8630 451 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 733.8630 (pause 0.26) 734.1199 452 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 734.1199 more educated 735.1409 453 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 735.1409 (pause 0.56) 735.6981 454 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 735.6981 black people. 736.4381 455 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 736.4381 (pause 1.08) 737.5156 456 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 737.5156 They were in Columbia Heights, and, you know what I mean, not far from Howard and 743.5966 457 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 743.5966 (pause 0.40) 743.9970 458 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 743.9970 they had access. 745.5118 459 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 745.5118 (pause 0.46) 745.9697 460 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 745.9697 Southeast, 747.2543 461 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 747.2543 (pause 0.41) 747.6614 462 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 747.6614 east of the river, 748.6724 463 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 748.6724 (pause 0.13) 748.8025 464 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 748.8025 doesn't have that kind of access. They don't have schools in Southeast. 752.4802 465 DCB_int_01 752.8239 Mm. 753.1642 466 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 753.4045 So it was a difference in the- in the- in the- even in the sanctions of DC, so. 759.3010 467 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 759.3010 (pause 1.14) 760.4388 468 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 760.4388 It w- it was a big deal to be from DC back in the day. And now, 765.1008 469 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 765.1008 (pause 0.54) 765.6414 470 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 765.6414 because 767.0227 471 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 767.0227 (pause 1.08) 768.1071 472 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 768.1071 everybody was kind of forced out into the surrounding areas of Maryland, 772.5923 473 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 772.5923 (pause 0.43) 773.0194 474 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 773.0194 Maryland 773.9903 475 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 773.9903 (pause 0.40) 774.3907 476 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 774.3907 then- 775.2349 477 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 775.2349 (pause 0.89) 776.1199 478 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 776.1199 PG County I should say, cause PG County 778.9093 479 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 778.9093 (pause 0.61) 779.5199 480 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 779.5199 kind of surrounds that part of DC 782.0413 481 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 782.0413 (pause 0.63) 782.6671 482 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 782.6671 that was on the borderline. 784.5389 483 DCB_int_01 784.6757 Mm. 784.9526 484 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 785.0094 So, 785.8602 485 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 785.8602 (pause 0.64) 786.5008 486 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 786.5008 as people started to move in- And you can look at the cities 790.2286 487 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 790.2286 (pause 0.30) 790.5289 488 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 790.5289 that are next to DC, 792.0737 489 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 792.0737 (pause 0.52) 792.5942 490 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 792.5942 from Capital Heights, 793.9564 491 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 793.9564 (pause 0.37) 794.3268 492 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 794.3268 Suitland, Forestville, 796.8859 493 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 796.8859 (pause 0.24) 797.1261 494 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 797.1261 Temple Hills, Oxon Hill, all of these go in a line around the DC line. 801.2944 495 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 801.2944 (pause 1.04) 802.3387 496 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 802.3387 And all of these communities is where 804.2005 497 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 804.2005 (pause 0.62) 804.8220 498 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 804.8220 the black people from DC got pushed out into. 807.2176 499 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 807.2176 (pause 0.70) 807.9216 500 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 807.9216 And so then PG and Maryland 809.9202 501 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 809.9202 (pause 0.27) 810.1872 502 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 810.1872 then had a connection 811.5794 503 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 811.5794 (pause 0.27) 811.8530 504 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 811.8530 because- 812.7105 505 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 812.7105 (pause 0.59) 813.3044 506 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 813.3044 Well, PG and DC then had a connection because 815.9803 507 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 815.9803 (pause 0.81) 816.7878 508 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 816.7878 yeah I'm from DC but I live here now, so now this is a cool area. So then, 821.4898 509 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 821.4898 (pause 0.20) 821.6934 510 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 821.6934 PG started to get it's own thing, and I guess 825.2677 511 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 825.2677 (pause 0.33) 825.5980 512 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 825.5980 that was like the era that I was coming up in because there were go go bands and they would do go gos in places like Marlow Heights Shopping Center. 832.2890 513 DCB_int_01 832.3754 Mm-hm. 832.8525 514 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 832.8492 You know what I mean, and then they would ha- I remember when they started playing at the Brandywine Firehouse. 837.6247 515 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 838.0151 And I was like, that's a little deep down the road for a go go, [but okay.] 841.8296 516 DCB_int_01 841.0522 [] 842.7071 517 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 842.3501 [Um,] 843.0875 518 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 843.3177 843.4145 519 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 843.4145 (pause 0.18) 843.5980 520 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 843.5980 and then, you know, just watching, it kind of transformed to the DMV. 848.3868 521 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 848.3868 (pause 0.26) 848.6437 522 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 848.6437 Now Virginia, 849.7448 523 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 849.7448 (pause 0.74) 850.4855 524 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 850.4855 interestingly enough, cause I- like, my family is from 854.1733 525 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 854.1733 (pause 0.19) 854.3668 526 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 854.3668 this old town, Alexandria [area. And] that has it's own history 858.9646 527 DCB_int_01 856.4522 [Mm-hm.] 856.9255 528 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 859.3692 and culture 860.3501 529 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 860.3501 (pause 0.38) 860.7338 530 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 860.7338 in itself. So like- and I think 863.4598 531 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 863.4598 (pause 0.72) 864.1772 532 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 864.1772 that's the- 864.8612 533 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 864.8612 (pause 0.41) 865.2724 534 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 865.2724 that's the one thing that kind of- excuse me, kind of separates me from like, 869.7234 535 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 869.7234 (pause 1.19) 870.9146 536 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 870.9146 like the- like the 871.8863 537 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 871.8863 (pause 0.29) 872.1766 538 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 872.1766 girls that kind of just grew up in PG only, that didn't have access to Alexandria. 877.5794 539 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 877.5794 (pause 1.19) 878.7705 540 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 878.7705 It's co- it was completely different. 880.3053 541 DCB_int_01 880.5389 Mm. 880.7891 542 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 880.7591 My grandfather, he worked for Northern Virginia Community College, 884.1766 543 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 884.5903 and one of the things he did was have me at the college all the time. 887.8068 544 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 887.8068 (pause 0.62) 888.4274 545 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 888.4274 And it exposed me to Annandale, 890.2934 546 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 890.2934 (pause 0.42) 890.7171 547 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 890.7171 Tyson's Corner, 891.8516 548 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 891.8516 (pause 0.61) 892.4622 549 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 892.4622 um, 893.1295 550 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 893.1295 (pause 0.99) 894.1238 551 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 894.1238 just a mass area of just, 896.6760 552 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 896.6760 (pause 0.29) 896.9674 553 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 896.9674 this is a whole nother world. 898.6967 554 DCB_int_01 898.7191 /?/ yes. 899.7000 555 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 899.7167 So it kind of gave me perspective, 903.5813 556 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 903.5813 (pause 0.48) 904.0618 557 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 904.0618 um, knowing that there was something else out there, not to be limited to just what I saw around me. Um, 910.0651 558 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 910.0651 (pause 0.34) 910.4054 559 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 910.4054 and I remember- And there were- there- there- there were hoods in Virginia too, 914.2033 560 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 914.2033 (pause 0.40) 914.6037 561 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 914.6037 Old Town. 915.2176 562 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 915.2176 (pause 0.39) 915.6080 563 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 915.6080 Um, the house that my grandparents owned 918.0704 564 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 918.0704 (pause 0.11) 918.1805 565 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 918.1805 in Virginia before they moved, they just recently sold it. I'm talking about maybe, like the- the paper just- 924.1338 566 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 924.1338 (pause 0.48) 924.6109 567 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 924.6109 paperwork just finished this year. 925.8430 568 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 925.8430 (pause 0.64) 926.4802 569 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 926.4802 Um, and they been selling that house for the last 929.0094 570 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 929.0094 (pause 0.12) 929.1261 571 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 929.1261 four years because 930.6151 572 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 930.6151 (pause 0.25) 930.8620 573 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 930.8620 there's a developer that wanted to buy the entire block. 934.0351 574 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 934.0351 (pause 0.36) 934.3954 575 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 934.3954 And so first he had to s- 935.6059 576 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 935.6059 (pause 0.13) 935.7401 577 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 935.7401 buy out all the individual homeowners, and then there's a section owned by the state which were section eight housing 941.5108 578 DCB_int_01 941.6033 Mm. 941.9269 579 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 941.9736 that they had to get approval to move all of those people 944.8473 580 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 944.8473 (pause 0.32) 945.1709 581 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 945.1709 and have somewhere for them to go 946.7458 582 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 946.7458 (pause 0.22) 946.9693 583 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 946.9693 before they can get that whole block. So this process took four years just for my grandparents to sell their house. 952.6423 584 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 952.6423 (pause 0.29) 952.9326 585 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 952.9326 Because the block that my grandparents was on 954.7886 586 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 954.7886 (pause 0.28) 955.0722 587 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 955.0722 it was worth a lot because it sat right across from Braddock 957.7014 588 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 957.7014 (pause 0.17) 957.8716 589 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 957.8716 Metro Station. 958.7791 590 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 958.7791 (pause 0.43) 959.2062 591 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 959.2062 That house- that- that block was there before that Metro Station was there. 962.3368 592 DCB_int_01 962.3301 Yup. 962.5670 593 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 962.7672 So that was like- like, I'm talking about 966.0936 594 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 966.0936 (pause 1.22) 967.3158 595 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 967.3158 clothes drying out on a string 969.8115 596 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 969.8115 (pause 1.24) 971.0561 597 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 971.0561 in the- in the back alley 972.9148 598 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 972.9148 (pause 0.24) 973.1523 599 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 973.1523 neighborhoods, because that was the projects in Alexandria. 977.1147 600 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 977.1147 (pause 0.33) 977.4398 601 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 977.4398 So- 978.3507 602 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 978.3507 (pause 0.36) 978.7085 603 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 978.7085 and there- and there were- there- there- there were projects, and in the section eight in Alexandria funny enough, it was very integrated, it was a bunch of black and white people. I remember 986.6004 604 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 986.6004 (pause 0.36) 986.9574 605 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 986.9574 my dad had a place, um, there. And my- um, 989.9536 606 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 989.9536 (pause 0.35) 990.3006 607 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 990.3006 990.3607 608 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 990.3607 (pause 0.08) 990.4374 609 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 990.4374 and his next door neighbors was these two white ladies named Lynda and Brenda. 993.9650 610 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 993.9650 (pause 0.14) 994.1052 611 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 994.1052 They were twins. 994.9093 612 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 994.9093 (pause 0.57) 995.4832 613 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 995.4832 Um, 996.1772 614 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 996.1772 (pause 0.16) 996.3340 615 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 996.3340 and Lynda and Brenda they were home all day they just sat around, they always had the candy, we always used to go over there and get snacks. 1001.8268 616 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1001.8268 (pause 0.47) 1002.3006 617 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1002.3006 [Um,] 1003.0046 618 DCB_int_01 1002.4708 [] 1003.2649 619 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1003.4159 so like it was- it- it was- it was different in Alexandria. It was still like, the lower 1009.7195 620 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1009.7195 (pause 0.13) 1009.8530 621 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1009.8530 i- income community, section eight, poverty, but it was- it was just- 1015.0330 622 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1015.0330 (pause 0.44) 1015.4693 623 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1015.4693 it was different. It wasn't like a whole bunch of crime, 1018.4955 624 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1018.4955 (pause 0.35) 1018.8459 625 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1018.8459 it was just us hanging out. Like I remember, 1021.1948 626 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1021.1948 (pause 0.38) 1021.5760 627 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1021.5760 um, hanging out with my dad. And at one point, 1024.3020 628 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1024.3020 (pause 0.74) 1025.0394 629 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1025.0394 my dad's house was like one house on the block, two houses down was his sister, and two houses down from that was his aunt and uncle. 1031.4665 630 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1031.4665 (pause 0.32) 1031.7901 631 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1031.7901 And so like our family was lit- almost like that whole block. And [we would] go to the park behind the house, 1037.2663 632 DCB_int_01 1035.2556 [Hm.] 1035.4327 633 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1037.6266 and play outside 1038.7477 634 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1038.7477 (pause 0.29) 1039.0355 635 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1039.0355 past dark. 1039.7929 636 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1039.7929 (pause 0.23) 1040.0231 637 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1040.0231 Never had to worry about nothing. We would roam Alexandria, we would walk from- 1044.5418 638 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1044.5418 (pause 0.96) 1045.5026 639 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1045.5026 we would walk all the way down to Del Ray, which is all the way down the other side. 1049.5599 640 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1049.5599 (pause 0.24) 1049.8035 641 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1049.8035 So we would just be [out, um, walking around through Alexandria.] So- um, 1055.5332 642 DCB_int_01 1051.0055 [] 1053.7481 643 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1055.7801 and that was like weekends for me. So like weekdays was back to PG County. It was back to, um, 1061.5199 644 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1061.5199 (pause 0.40) 1061.9236 645 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1061.9236 you know, just 1063.0055 646 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1063.0055 (pause 0.33) 1063.3358 647 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1063.3358 a whole different set of things. Because now PG County, it was starting to 1068.6877 648 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1068.6877 (pause 0.32) 1069.0088 649 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1069.0088 grow with this DC influence so it was like a new mix, um, of- 1074.8812 650 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1074.8812 (pause 0.78) 1075.6661 651 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1075.6661 of just what it was to be from DC, it was like- And- 1079.5299 652 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1079.5299 (pause 0.41) 1079.9369 653 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1079.9369 and honestly, my uncle- and h- there's a- there's a article online, my uncle- I have that uncle that swear he came up with the phrase DMV. 1087.2082 654 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1087.2082 (pause 0.61) 1087.8163 655 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1087.8163 He literal- and it- they s- 1089.1876 656 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1089.1876 (pause 0.30) 1089.4912 657 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1089.4912 someone published a article on it, like they literally coin him being the first person to come up with the term. 1094.7672 658 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1094.7672 (pause 0.35) 1095.1142 659 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1095.1142 And he's a producer, he's been into music, so it d- 1098.0170 660 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1098.0170 (pause 0.27) 1098.2839 661 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1098.2839 it doesn't surprise me that unc woulda been saying one day, yeah the DMV, the DMV. And it catch on, 1104.1238 662 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1104.1238 (pause 0.33) 1104.4583 663 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1104.4583 and people not even realize. Because again, 1107.0174 664 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1107.0174 (pause 0.32) 1107.3411 665 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1107.3411 he was- you know, he- he was on my father's side, he's from- he has family in Virginia, 1112.8706 666 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1112.8706 (pause 0.32) 1113.1876 667 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1113.1876 his mother lives in DC, Kenilworth Ave. Like, I just know like, 1116.7344 668 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1116.7344 (pause 0.42) 1117.1523 669 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1117.1523 he's also a part of this mix where it's DC, Maryland, Virginia. He lives in Maryland now, he lives 1122.7844 670 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1122.7844 (pause 0.25) 1123.0388 671 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1123.0388 like across the street, oddly enough, which is 1125.2777 672 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1125.2777 (pause 0.10) 1125.3778 673 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1125.3778 ironic, he lives like right across the street from me still. 1127.6900 674 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1127.6900 (pause 0.44) 1128.1271 675 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1128.1271 Um, 1128.7586 676 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1128.7586 (pause 0.39) 1129.1456 677 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1129.1456 1129.2390 678 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1129.2390 (pause 0.46) 1129.6961 679 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1129.6961 and so 1131.0215 680 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1131.0215 (pause 0.35) 1131.3711 681 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1131.3711 DMV grew because there's a bunch of us that's like, 1135.4326 682 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1135.4326 (pause 1.30) 1136.7305 683 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1136.7305 there's really no difference. 1138.2553 684 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1138.2553 (pause 0.12) 1138.3754 685 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1138.3754 I- I m- I may 1140.0437 686 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1140.0437 (pause 1.11) 1141.1548 687 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1141.1548 have grown up in PG but I spent time in Alexandria, I partied in DC, I used to come- Oh man, when I hit- when I hit 1148.2400 688 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1148.2400 (pause 0.65) 1148.8906 689 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1148.8906 nineteen about, when I was nineteen and I- and I realized that I- literally from where I was in Temple Hills it was a 1155.4779 690 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1155.4779 (pause 0.20) 1155.6781 691 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1155.6781 fifteen minute ride to downtown DC, 1158.6143 692 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1158.6143 (pause 0.49) 1159.1056 693 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1159.1056 straight down two ninety-five. 1161.1008 694 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1161.1008 (pause 0.54) 1161.6447 695 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1161.6447 When I [realized] that, 1163.2029 696 DCB_int_01 1162.4522 [ 1162.8592 697 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1163.3397 I was in 1164.4608 698 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1164.4608 (pause 0.14) 1164.6009 699 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1164.6009 the clubs like every weekend because it was so much fun to just go out into the city. 1170.3807 700 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1170.3807 (pause 0.46) 1170.8420 701 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1170.8420 And you know the U Street crowd and the Adams Morgan vibe when it- when it w- used to be just like a bunch of people standing around, 1179.4712 702 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1179.4712 (pause 0.38) 1179.8549 703 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1179.8549 saying hey, having fun, 1181.8335 704 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1181.8335 (pause 0.25) 1182.0837 705 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1182.0837 drinking. 1182.9254 706 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1182.9254 (pause 0.24) 1183.1690 707 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1183.1690 Not e- 1183.5727 708 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1183.5727 (pause 0.31) 1183.8797 709 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1183.8797 Adams Morgan was the first place that I saw 1185.9650 710 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1185.9650 (pause 0.20) 1186.1652 711 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1186.1652 people just out 1186.9326 712 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1186.9326 (pause 0.37) 1187.3063 713 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1187.3063 and about 1187.8101 714 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1187.8101 (pause 0.19) 1187.9970 715 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1187.9970 drunk, and the police didn't care. 1189.5933 716 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1189.5933 (pause 0.31) 1189.9063 717 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1189.9063 Like cause they knew 1191.1242 718 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1191.1242 (pause 0.20) 1191.3244 719 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1191.3244 that this is what people were here doing. They're- everybody's here getting blasted, as long as nobody's hurting anybody, 1197.2310 720 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1197.2310 (pause 0.41) 1197.6414 721 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1197.6414 do what you want. 1198.5923 722 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1198.5923 (pause 0.31) 1198.8993 723 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1198.8993 And that was the first place I seen that, was Adams Morgan. And /?/ I was like, what? 1202.4836 724 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1202.4836 (pause 0.49) 1202.9707 725 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1202.9707 D- that man is drunk. And he is just 1205.3430 726 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1205.3430 (pause 0.38) 1205.7234 727 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1205.7234 stumbling around the street, and ain't nobody gonna say nothing. Okay, 1208.6738 728 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1208.6738 (pause 0.15) 1208.8239 729 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1208.8239 I'm gonna keep partying, so. 1210.2486 730 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1210.2486 (pause 1.08) 1211.3330 731 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1211.3330 That's how it was, it was like we would- 1213.4084 732 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1213.4084 (pause 0.49) 1213.9030 733 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1213.9030 me and my friends we would- we would go to Iverson Mall, 1217.1228 734 DCB_int_01 1217.7835 Mm. 1218.3381 735 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1218.3440 we would go grab us, um, a couple of outfits, 1221.6247 736 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1221.6247 (pause 0.36) 1221.9850 737 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1221.9850 and then we would figure out what we was gonna wear that weekend, and we would be out every weekend. It was- it was so much fun. 1228.0718 738 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1228.0718 (pause 1.34) 1229.4164 739 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1229.4164 And so like- And then I've worked in DC. Oh my gosh, who hasn't had a job in DC where you had to commute 1235.5499 740 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1235.5499 (pause 0.55) 1236.0971 741 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1236.0971 for freaking- 1237.1531 742 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1237.1531 (pause 0.50) 1237.6528 743 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1237.6528 So Metro has always been jacked up. Let me just say that, it's [never- it's never been good, like Metro has] never been good. It's always been horrible. And I just remember, 1248.3373 744 DCB_int_01 1240.8420 [] 1244.1733 745 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1248.7077 years ago before I became an entrepreneur just that commute to DC. 1253.4231 746 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1253.4231 (pause 0.32) 1253.7401 747 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1253.7401 And it was like, okay, 1254.9112 748 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1254.9112 (pause 0.35) 1255.2590 749 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1255.2590 park my car at Southern Avenue Metro Station and take the green line into to transfer over to the red line so I had to ride to L'Enfant Plaza. 1265.1929 750 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1265.1929 (pause 0.28) 1265.4731 751 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1265.4731 And you can actually see on the train the difference 1268.9373 752 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1268.9373 (pause 0.35) 1269.2844 753 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1269.2844 of 1269.6614 754 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1269.6614 (pause 0.21) 1269.8749 755 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1269.8749 the people as th- as you go from stop to stop, you're like, okay everybody 1274.1165 756 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1274.1165 (pause 0.33) 1274.4502 757 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1274.4502 that's sitting next to me looks like me, and then all of a sudden you turn around and you look and you're like, nobody looks like me. 1279.6933 758 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1279.6933 (pause 0.59) 1280.2834 759 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1280.2834 You can see the difference once you flow into certain parts of the city through the train. 1285.2849 760 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1285.2849 (pause 0.52) 1285.8096 761 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1285.8096 Just like, 1286.7171 762 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1286.7171 (pause 0.55) 1287.2643 763 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1287.2643 ride one of the trains to the last stop and you'll see, at each s- 1290.9479 764 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1290.9479 (pause 0.41) 1291.3617 765 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1291.3617 one of those last stops it's a different- 1293.8003 766 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1293.8003 (pause 0.76) 1294.5623 767 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1294.5623 like I'm talking about different ethnicities for every like- almost at every different area. 1298.8906 768 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1298.8906 (pause 0.57) 1299.4612 769 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1299.4612 So, 1300.1052 770 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1300.1052 (pause 0.56) 1300.6624 771 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1300.6624 it was like, 1301.6733 772 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1301.6733 (pause 0.20) 1301.8769 773 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1301.8769 you know, you ride into the city, 1303.5249 774 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1303.5249 (pause 0.48) 1304.0098 775 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1304.0098 1304.0865 776 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1304.0865 (pause 0.26) 1304.3501 777 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1304.3501 you would go ahead and- and- and put on your armor, cause you're in the city now, you gotta put on your armor. 1309.5418 778 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1309.5418 (pause 0.39) 1309.9330 779 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1309.9330 And you get ready for this hustle and bustle. I worked, um, at a temp agency 1313.9102 780 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1313.9102 (pause 0.55) 1314.4574 781 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1314.4574 and we 1315.4284 782 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1315.4284 (pause 0.12) 1315.5493 783 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1315.5493 would pretty much just, you know, help people find jobs, staffing and stuff like that. 1319.9136 784 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1319.9136 (pause 0.46) 1320.3774 785 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1320.3774 Um, 1320.9679 786 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1320.9679 (pause 0.62) 1321.5894 787 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1321.5894 and that was interesting because that kind of showed me, 1325.7434 788 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1325.7434 (pause 0.57) 1326.3106 789 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1326.3106 um, 1326.9012 790 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1326.9012 (pause 2.22) 1329.1209 791 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1329.1209 like- 1329.5880 792 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1329.5880 (pause 0.78) 1330.3721 793 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1330.3721 The CEO of the company used to come by, 1333.2182 794 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1333.2182 (pause 0.30) 1333.5160 795 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1333.5160 um, 1334.0031 796 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1334.0031 (pause 0.23) 1334.2300 797 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1334.2300 every now and again. 1335.3113 798 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1335.3113 (pause 0.28) 1335.5880 799 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1335.5880 Little old lady. 1336.4722 800 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1336.4722 (pause 0.62) 1337.0928 801 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1337.0928 And she was the CEO of a Fortune five hundred company. 1340.9006 802 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1340.9006 (pause 0.44) 1341.3411 803 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1341.3411 And she would just come by and go to Au Bon Pain across the street and get us all some danishes and stuff. And I'm- 1346.3001 804 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1346.3001 (pause 0.29) 1346.5949 805 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1346.5949 and I'm wondering like, if the person in the line behind her 1350.3018 806 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1350.3018 (pause 0.59) 1350.8891 807 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1350.8891 knows that this woman 1352.4606 808 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1352.4606 (pause 0.57) 1353.0320 809 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1353.0320 owns this massive 1354.7136 810 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1354.7136 (pause 0.27) 1354.9872 811 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1354.9872 corporation across the street. 1356.5955 812 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1356.5955 (pause 0.33) 1356.9258 813 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1356.9258 Cause she's just sitting here buying pastries. You don't know who's in DC with you. You don't know. 1362.9592 814 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1362.9592 (pause 0.71) 1363.6665 815 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1363.6665 You could be standing next to 1365.8461 816 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1365.8461 (pause 0.18) 1366.0230 817 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1366.0230 somebody that just like, owns half the daggone 1369.7199 818 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1369.7199 (pause 0.32) 1370.0444 819 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1370.0444 block and you're just standing there next to them at Panera just getting a sandwich. And that's the crazy part about DC. There's so many people that come to DC for so many different reasons. 1379.4143 820 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1379.4143 (pause 0.63) 1380.0483 821 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1380.0483 So many different reasons. And especially now, 1383.2222 822 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1383.2222 (pause 0.51) 1383.7293 823 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1383.7293 it's like- 1384.4701 824 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1384.4701 (pause 1.54) 1386.0116 825 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1386.0116 And this is how I know when people aren't from here cause- 1389.2856 826 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1389.2856 (pause 0.12) 1389.4090 827 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1389.4090 like, I told you I do Lyft. 1390.7470 828 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1390.7470 (pause 0.44) 1391.1874 829 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1391.1874 They get in my car, 1392.4186 830 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1392.4186 (pause 0.32) 1392.7356 831 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1392.7356 we're talking for a bit and they're like, oh, 1394.5949 832 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1394.5949 (pause 0.37) 1394.9686 833 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1394.9686 are you from here? 1395.6493 834 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1395.6493 (pause 0.76) 1396.4133 835 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1396.4133 I'm like, oh, you're not. 1397.4443 836 DCB_int_01 1397.7472 [] 1402.1865 837 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1399.8175 [Cause (laughing)] 1400.5415 838 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1400.5415 (pause 0.81) 1401.3556 839 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1401.3556 [if you have] to aks [me] 1403.4036 840 DCB_int_01 1402.7637 [] 1403.4243 841 DCB_int_01 1403.8814 [] 1404.2351 842 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1404.2518 if y- if I'm from here, then you're not from here. I know you're not. 1409.0540 843 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1409.0540 (pause 0.26) 1409.3176 844 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1409.3176 So, 1410.1269 845 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1410.1269 (pause 0.20) 1410.3285 846 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1410.3285 It's like a dead giveaway. And I get people that- they're like from all over the place like, Alaska, Utah, Nebraska, Miami, New York. 1418.6583 847 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1418.6583 (pause 0.26) 1418.9186 848 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1418.9186 Had one guy from LA in my car, he's like- 1420.7337 849 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1420.7337 (pause 1.05) 1421.7847 850 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1421.7847 he's like- um, 1422.7394 851 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1422.7394 (pause 0.34) 1423.0759 852 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1423.0759 he was like, man I hated it there, I love it here, I was like, really? 1426.0964 853 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1426.0964 (pause 0.41) 1426.5034 854 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1426.5034 Like, man I'm trying to go to LA. He's like, nah you're not gonna like it. I was like, okay. You know, it's just 1430.9753 855 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1430.9753 (pause 0.37) 1431.3490 856 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1431.3490 crazy cause people just- they're like 1433.3543 857 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1433.3543 (pause 0.41) 1433.7613 858 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1433.7613 from all over and they're coming here. And so, 1437.0453 859 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1437.0453 (pause 1.40) 1438.4500 860 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1438.4500 like now with the whole process of the gentrification and like people- 1442.8315 861 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1442.8315 (pause 0.66) 1443.4891 862 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1443.4891 It's so funny like, especially like in the black community cause people don't know how to feel about it. They don't know if they wanna be mad or w- if they wanna be happy about it. Like, 1450.5568 863 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1450.5568 (pause 0.50) 1451.0540 864 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1451.0540 you know you like this new structured building they're building here, you know you like all this clean architecture and stuff, you know it. 1458.8958 865 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1458.8958 (pause 0.44) 1459.3362 866 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1459.3362 The part that really gets me is that, okay, 1461.8728 867 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1461.8728 (pause 1.28) 1463.1541 868 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1463.1541 let's take it back. 1463.9615 869 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1463.9615 (pause 0.43) 1464.3953 870 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1464.3953 you know, people are mad it's no longer Chocolate City. You know, I think- Even my uncle the one that 1469.3376 871 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1469.3376 (pause 0.87) 1470.2118 872 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1470.2118 made up DMV, he po- he posted a post on Facebook, he was like, 1473.1188 873 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1473.1188 (pause 0.42) 1473.5425 874 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1473.5425 it's no longer Chocolate City, it's Chocolate chip City, and you know, he got a couple of laughs for that. 1478.1970 875 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1478.1970 (pause 0.45) 1478.6516 876 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1478.6516 But I'm like, look, 1480.1664 877 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1480.1664 (pause 0.36) 1480.5235 878 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1480.5235 you know, 1481.0875 879 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1481.0875 (pause 0.35) 1481.4377 880 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1481.4377 the chocolateness has nothing to do with the fact that 1484.0502 881 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1484.0502 (pause 0.68) 1484.7317 882 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1484.7317 we as the nation's 1485.8928 883 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1485.8928 (pause 0.32) 1486.2098 884 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1486.2098 capital have to set an example. 1487.9382 885 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1487.9382 (pause 1.21) 1489.1460 886 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1489.1460 If I am from anywhere else in the world, 1491.4124 887 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1491.4124 (pause 0.81) 1492.2198 888 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1492.2198 and I come to the city that's supposed to be 1494.6889 889 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1494.6889 (pause 0.68) 1495.3670 890 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1495.3670 the city that houses the leader of the free world, 1499.4577 891 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1499.4577 (pause 0.75) 1500.2118 892 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1500.2118 I don't wanna see no homeless guy pissing on the corner. 1503.1588 893 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1503.1588 (pause 0.54) 1503.6960 894 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1503.6960 I don't wanna see 1505.0373 895 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1505.0373 (pause 0.41) 1505.4443 896 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1505.4443 potholes the size of my car. 1507.2895 897 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1507.2895 (pause 0.34) 1507.6273 898 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1507.6273 I don't want to see 1509.3657 899 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1509.3657 (pause 0.54) 1509.9062 900 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1509.9062 the- the- the- just the griminess. Like I think DC needed to be cleaned up, like honest to goodness, like it just- it just needed like a facelift. And I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. 1520.9119 901 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1520.9119 (pause 0.40) 1521.3123 902 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1521.3123 Now, 1521.8595 903 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1521.8595 (pause 0.92) 1522.7804 904 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1522.7804 I'm also looking at it from a business person's point of view. I don't see anything wrong with all the money that's coming into the city. 1528.9339 905 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1528.9339 (pause 0.36) 1529.2975 906 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1529.2975 Because that's what people miss. 1530.5955 907 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1530.5955 (pause 0.26) 1530.8524 908 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1530.8524 people miss the fact that with all this migration of, um, these millennials, cause that's who it is, the millennials with money 1539.8061 909 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1539.8061 (pause 0.33) 1540.1364 910 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1540.1364 that are coming to the city that are- are 1542.5221 911 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1542.5221 (pause 0.16) 1542.6856 912 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1542.6856 doing nothing but increasing the property value. Well, they're bringing their money with them. 1546.6369 913 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1546.6369 (pause 0.50) 1547.1340 914 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1547.1340 And it just so happens, me as a wedding planner, I welcome 1549.7733 915 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1549.7733 (pause 0.30) 1550.0711 916 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1550.0711 the- the- 1550.9219 917 DCB_int_01 1551.2322 Come [on in.] 1551.7794 918 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1551.3723 [the- yeah, exactly], I- I welcome the millennials 1554.3753 919 DCB_int_01 1551.9796 [Come on in.] 1552.5329 920 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1554.5855 with the money to spend 1555.7588 921 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1555.7588 (pause 0.27) 1556.0269 922 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1556.0269 that should soon be getting married 1558.3733 923 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1558.3733 (pause 0.24) 1558.6102 924 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1558.6102 after they live this life in the city and they decide they're ready to settle down. Because this is where they come and meet. 1563.9863 925 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1563.9863 (pause 0.42) 1564.4033 926 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1564.4033 They come and meet at the little bar on the corner or the little restaurant or the little- You know, they come and meet here and they're like, oh my god I'm in love. And then they getting married. 1571.3176 927 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1571.3176 (pause 0.56) 1571.8781 928 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1571.8781 They start their families and then they move somewhere else. 1573.8867 929 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1573.8867 (pause 0.37) 1574.2546 930 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1574.2546 That's what- that's the migration of DC. People come to DC for what, for work and school. 1578.1017 931 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1578.1017 (pause 0.53) 1578.6355 932 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1578.6355 They come- they- they will come to DC for work and school. 1580.9853 933 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1580.9853 (pause 0.37) 1581.3556 934 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1581.3556 Very few people 1582.1798 935 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1582.1798 (pause 0.27) 1582.4500 936 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1582.4500 will stay 1583.2508 937 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1583.2508 (pause 0.29) 1583.5378 938 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1583.5378 in DC. 1584.2818 939 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1584.2818 (pause 0.69) 1584.9692 940 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1584.9692 That's the thing. There- they'll come, work and school, I got my degree at Georgetown, and I gotta, /you know what I mean,/ and now I'm gonna go 1591.4697 941 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1591.4697 (pause 0.12) 1591.5864 942 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1591.5864 move here. 1592.3071 943 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1592.3071 (pause 0.47) 1592.7751 944 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1592.7751 Once I got my degree and my husband and my everything that I wanted I'm gone. 1595.8681 945 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1595.8681 (pause 1.10) 1596.9725 946 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1596.9725 And then, you know, it's just a new flux of people coming in. 1600.1498 947 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1600.1498 (pause 0.65) 1600.8037 948 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1600.8037 And it's always been a revolving door like that, it's always been that way. 1604.8251 949 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1604.8251 (pause 0.60) 1605.4291 950 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1605.4291 The only difference now is that 1607.3743 951 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1607.3743 (pause 1.07) 1608.4487 952 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1608.4487 you can see DC is trying to 1611.1888 953 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1611.1888 (pause 0.45) 1611.6359 954 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1611.6359 capitalize on this. 1613.1284 955 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1613.1284 (pause 0.32) 1613.4477 956 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1613.4477 That's why they're building so many condos. 1615.9434 957 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1615.9434 (pause 0.42) 1616.3680 958 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1616.3680 That's why they're building so many freaking apartments. 1618.4234 959 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1618.4234 (pause 0.62) 1619.0473 960 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1619.0473 They're trying to capitalize on this wave of people that they know just wanna come here for a little while. Because come on, be real, if you really wanted to keep people in your city you would be building houses. 1628.2904 961 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1628.2904 (pause 0.92) 1629.2088 962 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1629.2088 You would be building long term things not short term spaces. 1633.2836 963 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1633.2836 (pause 0.48) 1633.7608 964 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1633.7608 Come on. 1634.4368 965 DCB_int_01 1634.8185 Mm. 1635.1421 966 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1635.6726 It's very simple. 1636.6803 967 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1636.6803 (pause 0.41) 1637.0873 968 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1637.0873 They wanna capitalize on it. 1638.3753 969 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1638.3753 (pause 0.76) 1639.1360 970 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1639.1360 As- as should they. 1641.2956 971 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1641.2956 (pause 0.19) 1641.4824 972 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1641.4824 Because after all, it's a market. 1643.5624 973 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1643.5624 (pause 0.60) 1644.1617 974 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1644.1617 S- 1644.4053 975 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1644.4053 (pause 0.43) 1644.8357 976 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1644.8357 business, 1645.3629 977 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1645.3629 (pause 0.87) 1646.2279 978 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1646.2279 so. 1646.6216 979 DCB_int_01 1646.7918 What do you do with the- what do you do with the people though that are getting pushed out? 1649.5545 980 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1650.1250 1650.4420 981 DCB_int_01 1650.4487 How should they feel? 1651.2913 982 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1652.3981 The people that are getting pushed out, 1655.2041 983 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1655.2041 (pause 2.22) 1657.4271 984 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1657.4271 1657.5005 985 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1657.5005 (pause 0.22) 1657.7241 986 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1657.7241 I understand how they could feel hurt. 1659.2161 987 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1659.2161 (pause 0.72) 1659.9329 988 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1659.9329 I- I- I truly do. I understand it 1662.1584 989 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1662.1584 (pause 0.74) 1662.8991 990 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1662.8991 and 1663.6932 991 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1663.6932 (pause 1.03) 1664.7217 992 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1664.7217 I get how 1666.0797 993 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1666.0797 (pause 0.44) 1666.5201 994 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1666.5201 just having something taken from you that's always been yours and 1670.4581 995 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1670.4581 (pause 0.42) 1670.8785 996 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1670.8785 kind of feeling victimized by it, you know what I mean. I get it, I understand it. 1675.9168 997 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1675.9168 (pause 0.90) 1676.8151 998 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1676.8151 But I've just- 1678.2832 999 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1678.2832 (pause 1.51) 1679.7947 1000 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1679.7947 I guess like I said, because i- like that sliding door experience, if it wasn't for the fact that I already knew 1686.9024 1001 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1686.9024 (pause 0.54) 1687.4430 1002 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1687.4430 that there w- there is a different way of living, that you could have a different life. 1691.6579 1003 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1691.6579 (pause 0.36) 1692.0182 1004 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1692.0182 And that's the problem. 1692.9592 1005 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1692.9592 (pause 0.31) 1693.2695 1006 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1693.2695 See, I don't think- 1694.1812 1007 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1694.1812 (pause 0.30) 1694.4815 1008 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1694.4815 You know, people always talk about 1695.8762 1009 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1695.8762 (pause 0.27) 1696.1431 1010 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1696.1431 people in poverty, and, you know, how they're lazy and this that and the third, and they don't- 1701.2889 1011 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1701.2889 (pause 0.36) 1701.6493 1012 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1701.6493 they don't want 1702.4934 1013 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1702.4934 (pause 0.51) 1703.0073 1014 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1703.0073 to do anything. 1704.0216 1015 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1704.0216 (pause 1.15) 1705.1760 1016 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1705.1760 Um, 1705.8041 1017 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1705.8041 (pause 0.17) 1705.9776 1018 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1705.9776 I think 1706.9686 1019 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1706.9686 (pause 0.11) 1707.0820 1020 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1707.0820 what people kind of forget is that 1710.0816 1021 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1710.0816 (pause 0.85) 1710.9358 1022 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1710.9358 we have a society 1712.5349 1023 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1712.5349 (pause 0.40) 1712.9386 1024 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1712.9386 that's kind of set up where 1714.7136 1025 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1714.7136 (pause 0.45) 1715.1607 1026 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1715.1607 we need people like that. That's the way capitalism is set up, [that's the] way that it [is.] 1719.8028 1027 DCB_int_01 1718.4448 [Mm.] 1718.7714 1028 DCB_int_01 1718.7714 (pause 0.90) 1719.6693 1029 DCB_int_01 1719.6693 Mm. 1719.9729 1030 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1720.7837 That is the way that it is done. People that don't understand economics fall to the bottom of the list. 1727.8981 1031 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1727.8981 (pause 1.19) 1729.0926 1032 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1729.0926 And unfortunately it's not enough people taking notice of what the real problem is. What is the real problem? Well, it's not the gentrifiers, it's not the money coming into DC. That's not a problem. 1740.9758 1033 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1740.9758 (pause 0.43) 1741.4096 1034 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1741.4096 You gonna tell me that's a problem? That's not a problem, the problem is is that you don't know how to capitalize on it because nobody has ever taught you. 1747.1927 1035 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1747.1927 (pause 1.13) 1748.3246 1036 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1748.3246 That's the problem. 1749.1388 1037 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1749.1388 (pause 0.66) 1749.7994 1038 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1749.7994 You don't even- 1750.4968 1039 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1750.4968 (pause 0.50) 1750.9939 1040 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1750.9939 you don't even understand 1752.8791 1041 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1752.8791 (pause 0.44) 1753.3162 1042 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1753.3162 that this 1754.2749 1043 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1754.2749 (pause 0.40) 1754.6783 1044 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1754.6783 is a good thing. 1755.6059 1045 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1755.6059 (pause 1.42) 1757.0306 1046 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1757.0306 Because 1757.8581 1047 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1757.8581 (pause 1.50) 1759.3595 1048 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1759.3595 right now, 1760.5273 1049 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1760.5273 (pause 1.51) 1762.0396 1050 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1762.0396 you can honestly 1763.5278 1051 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1763.5278 (pause 0.66) 1764.1884 1052 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1764.1884 get in 1765.1727 1053 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1765.1727 (pause 0.31) 1765.4797 1054 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1765.4797 for- with nothing. Li- okay, 1767.7360 1055 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1767.7360 (pause 1.20) 1768.9372 1056 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1768.9372 right now somebody could 1771.4263 1057 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1771.4263 (pause 1.17) 1772.5982 1058 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1772.5982 come up with a vegan juice smoothie bar. 1775.5745 1059 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1775.5745 (pause 0.97) 1776.5488 1060 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1776.5488 A little cart, 1777.2127 1061 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1777.2127 (pause 0.19) 1777.4063 1062 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1777.4063 set it up 1778.1245 1063 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1778.1245 (pause 0.74) 1778.8618 1064 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1778.8618 on the corner somewhere. 1779.9863 1065 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1779.9863 (pause 0.18) 1780.1698 1066 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1780.1698 And make a killing. 1780.9818 1067 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1780.9818 (pause 0.96) 1781.9448 1068 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1781.9448 And still keep their regular job. 1783.3228 1069 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1783.3228 (pause 0.36) 1783.6832 1070 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1783.6832 You could open 1785.0787 1071 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1785.0787 (pause 1.08) 1786.1564 1072 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1786.1564 a pilates place, anything fitness. 1789.2528 1073 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1789.2528 (pause 0.34) 1789.5931 1074 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1789.5931 Bicycles, 1790.3146 1075 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1790.3146 (pause 0.12) 1790.4314 1076 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1790.4314 ooh, 1790.6717 1077 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1790.6717 (pause 0.18) 1790.8518 1078 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1790.8518 open a bicycle repair shop. 1792.4767 1079 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1792.4767 (pause 0.40) 1792.8805 1080 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1792.8805 Oh my gosh, 1793.6646 1081 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1793.6646 (pause 0.24) 1793.9015 1082 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1793.9015 you could just sell 1795.4530 1083 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1795.4530 (pause 0.69) 1796.1470 1084 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1796.1470 accessories 1797.1922 1085 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1797.1922 (pause 0.39) 1797.5859 1086 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1797.5859 for workouts, 1798.7170 1087 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1798.7170 (pause 0.63) 1799.3509 1088 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1799.3509 and make money right now. You get what I'm saying, like there's no- 1802.6041 1089 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1802.6041 (pause 1.51) 1804.1097 1090 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1804.1097 there's no way that you can't kind of grow from this if you're not open to growing. 1809.4057 1091 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1809.4057 (pause 1.37) 1810.7804 1092 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1810.7804 You can grow from this. 1812.2551 1093 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1812.2551 (pause 0.13) 1812.3853 1094 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1812.3853 You can grow to the point where you don't have to worry about nobody pushing 1815.9796 1095 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1815.9796 (pause 0.32) 1816.3032 1096 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1816.3032 anybody else 1817.1007 1097 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1817.1007 (pause 0.22) 1817.3176 1098 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1817.3176 in your lineage 1818.3119 1099 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1818.3119 (pause 0.26) 1818.5688 1100 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1818.5688 around 1819.1026 1101 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1819.1026 (pause 0.23) 1819.3329 1102 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1819.3329 anymore. 1819.8167 1103 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1819.8167 (pause 0.16) 1819.9768 1104 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1819.9768 Cause they will have what they need. 1821.2522 1105 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1821.2522 (pause 0.45) 1821.7027 1106 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1821.7027 See the difference is 1822.7770 1107 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1822.7770 (pause 0.45) 1823.2275 1108 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1823.2275 again 1823.8448 1109 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1823.8448 (pause 0.25) 1824.0983 1110 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1824.0983 like 1824.5454 1111 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1824.5454 (pause 0.46) 1825.0059 1112 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1825.0059 I was shown- And I- and- and I consider myself blessed. 1827.7427 1113 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1827.7427 (pause 0.38) 1828.1231 1114 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1828.1231 My grandfather is- is the type of person 1830.9178 1115 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1830.9178 (pause 0.11) 1831.0246 1116 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1831.0246 that- and I guess this is what we d- we need more of is that 1834.8171 1117 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1834.8171 (pause 0.65) 1835.4710 1118 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1835.4710 he works 1836.2018 1119 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1836.2018 (pause 0.34) 1836.5454 1120 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1836.5454 with making sure 1838.1603 1121 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1838.1603 (pause 0.33) 1838.4915 1122 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1838.4915 that tomorrow is good. 1839.7460 1123 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1839.7460 (pause 1.54) 1841.2909 1124 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1841.2909 We don't look at tomorrow, we j- we just see today. 1843.8000 1125 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1843.8000 (pause 0.90) 1844.6983 1126 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1844.6983 He- he's looking at tomorrow. 1846.5201 1127 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1846.5201 (pause 0.24) 1846.7570 1128 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1846.7570 My grandfather is the type of person that he already has money set up for when 1850.6083 1129 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1850.6083 (pause 0.36) 1850.9719 1130 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1850.9719 my- my daughter is old enough to get a car, 1853.8314 1131 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1853.8314 (pause 0.16) 1853.9915 1132 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1853.9915 and she's twelve. 1854.8795 1133 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1854.8795 (pause 1.46) 1856.3413 1134 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1856.3413 So, 1857.4491 1135 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1857.4491 (pause 0.76) 1858.2065 1136 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1858.2065 he has money set up for her when she's eighteen for her to go- for her first year of college. 1862.2009 1137 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1862.2009 (pause 1.38) 1863.5759 1138 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1863.5759 She's twelve. 1864.2499 1139 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1864.2499 (pause 0.91) 1865.1607 1140 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1865.1607 She's already aksing me, mommy- 1867.1827 1141 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1867.1827 (pause 0.58) 1867.7674 1142 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1867.7674 Like she's already going on college tours, 1869.4991 1143 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1869.4991 (pause 0.20) 1869.6993 1144 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1869.6993 she understands how credit works. 1871.0139 1145 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1871.0139 (pause 0.19) 1871.2041 1146 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1871.2041 That little girl can explain to you 1872.7156 1147 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1872.7156 (pause 0.27) 1872.9825 1148 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1872.9825 how to improve your credit, 1874.6083 1149 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1874.6083 (pause 0.45) 1875.0554 1150 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1875.0554 how t- how- what things damage your credit, 1877.0773 1151 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1877.0773 (pause 0.63) 1877.7079 1152 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1877.7079 what a credit score is. 1879.0693 1153 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1879.0693 (pause 1.27) 1880.3413 1154 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1880.3413 You understand? [Like she] gets that 1881.8328 1155 DCB_int_01 1880.8819 [Mm-hm.] 1881.3189 1156 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1882.2765 at twelve. 1882.9939 1157 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1882.9939 (pause 1.08) 1884.0716 1158 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1884.0716 She- she aksed my grandmother the- the other day, how do you buy a house? 1887.5458 1159 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1887.5458 (pause 0.38) 1887.9262 1160 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1887.9262 Cause she aksed me and I was like, you know what, I don't know anything about that, I'm gonna let you talk to, uh, your gran- your great-grandmother over there cause she's done it 1895.2575 1161 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1895.2575 (pause 0.49) 1895.7446 1162 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1895.7446 three, four times before, 1897.0025 1163 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1897.0025 (pause 0.26) 1897.2661 1164 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1897.2661 and so she knows. 1898.3772 1165 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1898.3772 (pause 0.35) 1898.7317 1166 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1898.7317 So- but that's her level of curiosity. 1901.3042 1167 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1901.3042 (pause 0.16) 1901.4677 1168 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1901.4677 She wants to know. 1902.3252 1169 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1902.3252 (pause 2.27) 1904.5982 1170 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1904.5982 1904.6529 1171 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1904.6529 (pause 0.07) 1904.7241 1172 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1904.7241 It's a difference in mindset. 1906.0563 1173 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1906.0563 (pause 0.88) 1906.9405 1174 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1906.9405 It's a difference in mindset. 1908.1339 1175 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1908.1339 (pause 0.49) 1908.6222 1176 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1908.6222 And so, 1909.4129 1177 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1909.4129 (pause 1.45) 1910.8652 1178 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1910.8652 I don't think 1911.8528 1179 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1911.8528 (pause 0.95) 1912.8071 1180 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1912.8071 that anybody ever really took the time to- to give them 1916.5905 1181 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1916.5905 (pause 1.02) 1917.6092 1182 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1917.6092 that 1918.1865 1183 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1918.1865 (pause 0.77) 1918.9605 1184 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1918.9605 different mindset, 1919.9325 1185 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1919.9325 (pause 0.82) 1920.7523 1186 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1920.7523 to actually 1921.4897 1187 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1921.4897 (pause 0.42) 1921.9134 1188 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1921.9134 instill that in them. 1923.3256 1189 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1923.3256 (pause 1.15) 1924.4767 1190 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1924.4767 I- it was instilled in me whether I wanted it or not because my grandfather exposed 1928.6550 1191 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1928.6550 (pause 0.10) 1928.7555 1192 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1928.7555 it to me. 1929.3002 1193 DCB_int_01 1929.4803 Mm-hm. 1929.8407 1194 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1930.0843 Um, 1930.7916 1195 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1930.7916 (pause 0.66) 1931.4556 1196 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1931.4556 1931.5156 1197 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1931.5156 (pause 0.28) 1931.7926 1198 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1931.7926 and it's- 1932.1529 1199 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1932.1529 (pause 0.14) 1932.2931 1200 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1932.2931 it's one of the things that kind of like, 1935.3068 1201 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1935.3068 (pause 0.16) 1935.4670 1202 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1935.4670 propelled me 1936.4313 1203 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1936.4313 (pause 0.56) 1936.9951 1204 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1936.9951 into business probably, just that understanding, knowing that it's possible. 1940.8155 1205 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1940.8155 (pause 0.52) 1941.3402 1206 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1941.3402 Um, a lot of people 1943.3788 1207 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1943.3788 (pause 0.09) 1943.4723 1208 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1943.4723 just don't view things as possible, 1946.0114 1209 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1946.0114 (pause 0.72) 1946.7288 1210 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1946.7288 and so they get stuck. 1947.9575 1211 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1947.9575 (pause 1.20) 1949.1553 1212 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1949.1553 Um, 1949.7225 1213 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1949.7225 (pause 0.45) 1950.1730 1214 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1950.1730 but again, it's like 1951.9836 1215 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1951.9836 (pause 0.71) 1952.6921 1216 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1952.6921 1952.7521 1217 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1952.7521 (pause 0.30) 1953.0524 1218 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1953.0524 there's this program this young lady has where she's working with DC public schools and DC charter schools now to get financial education into schools. 1961.1453 1219 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1961.1453 (pause 1.20) 1962.3498 1220 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1962.3498 1962.4032 1221 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1962.4032 (pause 0.52) 1962.9270 1222 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1962.9270 I reached out to her to see if she could do the same thing for PG County. 1965.4881 1223 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1965.4881 (pause 0.17) 1965.6572 1224 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1965.6572 Um, I need to talk to, 1967.4322 1225 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1967.4322 (pause 0.32) 1967.7525 1226 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1967.7525 you know, like 1968.3898 1227 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1968.3898 (pause 0.15) 1968.5366 1228 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1968.5366 PG County school board, I don't know how that process would work. 1971.4370 1229 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1971.4370 (pause 0.39) 1971.8307 1230 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1971.8307 I just wanna get them linked up where we could start the process because I know if my twelve year old can learn credit, 1976.5720 1231 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1976.5720 (pause 0.81) 1977.3836 1232 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1977.3836 the rest of the twelve year olds in PG County can learn credit. 1979.6191 1233 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1979.6191 (pause 0.59) 1980.2130 1234 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1980.2130 Cause 1980.7335 1235 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1980.7335 (pause 0.71) 1981.4475 1236 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1981.4475 it- 1981.5843 1237 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1981.5843 (pause 0.33) 1981.9180 1238 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1981.9180 it can be taught. 1982.5853 1239 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1982.5853 (pause 0.93) 1983.5137 1240 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1983.5137 Um, 1984.0876 1241 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1984.0876 (pause 0.62) 1984.7082 1242 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1984.7082 and that's like a project that I would love to help with, just like getting more financial education out there, getting 1990.5314 1243 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1990.5314 (pause 0.58) 1991.1153 1244 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1991.1153 people to understand that it's possible. It's one of the things on my 1994.6220 1245 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1994.6220 (pause 0.35) 1994.9765 1246 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1994.9765 website, one of my goals for my business is to 1998.6167 1247 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1998.6167 (pause 0.32) 1998.9337 1248 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 1998.9337 start more 2000.0381 1249 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2000.0381 (pause 0.19) 2000.2291 1250 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2000.2291 female entrepreneurs. 2001.4870 1251 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2001.4870 (pause 0.61) 2002.1009 1252 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2002.1009 Like just to help them get started. Like I feel like 2004.4977 1253 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2004.4977 (pause 1.85) 2006.3451 1254 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2006.3451 with entrepreneurship 2007.6672 1255 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2007.6672 (pause 0.56) 2008.2277 1256 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2008.2277 we can start to shift the balance 2010.7001 1257 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2010.7001 (pause 0.37) 2011.0653 1258 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2011.0653 because 2011.8828 1259 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2011.8828 (pause 0.98) 2012.8671 1260 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2012.8671 the whole 2013.9682 1261 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2013.9682 (pause 0.84) 2014.8098 1262 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2014.8098 slave thing, 2016.0710 1263 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2016.0710 (pause 0.53) 2016.5982 1264 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2016.5982 well, 2017.1187 1265 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2017.1187 (pause 0.14) 2017.2589 1266 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2017.2589 we need people 2018.0563 1267 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2018.0563 (pause 0.11) 2018.1697 1268 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2018.1697 to be slaves. 2019.4543 1269 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2019.4543 (pause 0.76) 2020.2192 1270 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2020.2192 If you are financially free, 2021.8808 1271 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2021.8808 (pause 0.71) 2022.5915 1272 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2022.5915 meaning, 2023.2155 1273 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2023.2155 (pause 0.27) 2023.4857 1274 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2023.4857 you make your own- you set your own income, you establish. 2026.6196 1275 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2026.6196 (pause 0.32) 2026.9366 1276 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2026.9366 And see, and that's the thing like, people like, oh I make good money with my job and this /and other/ things/, Yes, but you're- 2031.8914 1277 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2031.8914 (pause 0.23) 2032.1225 1278 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2032.1225 the government has his hand in your pocket before you do. 2034.9586 1279 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2034.9586 (pause 0.67) 2035.6325 1280 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2035.6325 He's already collecting what he wants 2037.5110 1281 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2037.5110 (pause 0.25) 2037.7579 1282 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2037.7579 before you even see your paycheck. 2039.4846 1283 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2039.4846 (pause 0.91) 2040.3947 1284 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2040.3947 It's different as a entrepreneur. 2041.8294 1285 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2041.8294 (pause 0.66) 2042.4867 1286 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2042.4867 It's different, it's a whole different mindset. It's like, 2045.0667 1287 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2045.0667 (pause 0.44) 2045.5105 1288 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2045.5105 let me pay for what I need to take care of first, 2047.7260 1289 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2047.7260 (pause 0.30) 2048.0296 1290 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2048.0296 then you get yours. 2049.2723 1291 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2049.2723 (pause 1.43) 2050.7064 1292 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2050.7064 What? 2051.1601 1293 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2051.1601 (pause 1.25) 2052.4147 1294 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2052.4147 You can do that? 2053.1688 1295 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2053.1688 (pause 0.16) 2053.3289 1296 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2053.3289 Yes you can do that. 2054.4467 1297 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2054.4467 (pause 0.47) 2054.9205 1298 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2054.9205 You can do that. 2055.8769 1299 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2055.8769 (pause 0.48) 2056.3560 1300 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2056.3560 It's possible. 2057.0760 1301 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2057.0760 (pause 1.17) 2058.2445 1302 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2058.2445 And it- you know what I mean, it's just- 2060.1063 1303 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2060.1063 (pause 1.85) 2061.9556 1304 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2061.9556 it's a difference in mindset. 2063.7741 1305 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2063.7741 (pause 0.90) 2064.6716 1306 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2064.6716 And not to say that there's like- 2066.5501 1307 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2066.5501 (pause 2.14) 2068.6897 1308 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2068.6897 you know, there's not things out there. There are very positive programs in DC. My grandmother on my father's side, she had a program called We Can. 2076.8051 1309 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2076.8051 (pause 0.67) 2077.4757 1310 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2077.4757 It was Washington Enrichment Cultural Arts Network. 2083.5858 1311 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2083.5858 (pause 0.73) 2084.3165 1312 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2084.3165 And she literally- like, that woman slaved for that program, like that's all I remember 2089.2989 1313 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2089.2989 (pause 0.45) 2089.7527 1314 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2089.7527 about that is that she 2091.0106 1315 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2091.0106 (pause 0.17) 2091.1774 1316 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2091.1774 always was there dedicating her time to teaching things like 2095.5825 1317 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2095.5825 (pause 0.49) 2096.0730 1318 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2096.0730 music and dance and 2098.1125 1319 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2098.1125 (pause 0.24) 2098.3527 1320 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2098.3527 anything arts related. Like she was just getting kids 2101.3957 1321 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2101.3957 (pause 0.32) 2101.7160 1322 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2101.7160 off the street 2102.6202 1323 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2102.6202 (pause 0.28) 2102.9038 1324 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2102.9038 into something 2103.8013 1325 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2103.8013 (pause 0.24) 2104.0424 1326 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2104.0424 positive, creative, influential, 2106.7684 1327 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2106.7684 (pause 0.14) 2106.9085 1328 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2106.9085 fun, 2107.6159 1329 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2107.6159 (pause 0.36) 2107.9796 1330 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2107.9796 freedom, 2108.5835 1331 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2108.5835 (pause 0.24) 2108.8237 1332 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2108.8237 just 2109.0606 1333 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2109.0606 (pause 0.37) 2109.4343 1334 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2109.4343 change your mindset. 2110.4661 1335 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2110.4661 (pause 0.39) 2110.8532 1336 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2110.8532 There are great programs like that. 2112.1652 1337 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2112.1652 (pause 0.78) 2112.9485 1338 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2112.9485 There are some, 2113.7293 1339 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2113.7293 (pause 0.28) 2114.0062 1340 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2114.0062 but there are not 2114.8371 1341 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2114.8371 (pause 0.18) 2115.0172 1342 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2115.0172 as many 2116.2626 1343 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2116.2626 (pause 0.16) 2116.4261 1344 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2116.4261 as there need to be. And it's not as much as a push as there should be for 2121.3943 1345 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2121.3943 (pause 0.38) 2121.7755 1346 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2121.7755 like actually focusing on, okay- 2124.2879 1347 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2124.2879 (pause 1.03) 2125.3189 1348 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2125.3189 You know, what's done is done. 2126.8270 1349 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2126.8270 (pause 0.56) 2127.3843 1350 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2127.3843 DC is gone. Y'all can f- forget about 2129.9709 1351 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2129.9709 (pause 0.30) 2130.2712 1352 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2130.2712 getting whatever y'all want back, because they gonna slap so many zeros behind that tag, it's r- it's gonna be ridiculous. 2136.7383 1353 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2136.7383 (pause 0.68) 2137.4223 1354 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2137.4223 What you need to focus on now is building 2140.0482 1355 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2140.0482 (pause 0.39) 2140.4361 1356 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2140.4361 for what's next. 2141.6239 1357 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2141.6239 (pause 0.63) 2142.2545 1358 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2142.2545 Because 2143.1652 1359 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2143.1652 (pause 2.05) 2145.2174 1360 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2145.2174 if we don't learn anything from this (laughing) then 2149.2522 1361 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2149.2522 (pause 0.48) 2149.7360 1362 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2149.7360 what's- 2150.3666 1363 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2150.3666 (pause 0.18) 2150.5434 1364 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2150.5434 you know what I mean, what's the point of bitching and griping? I'm sorry, 2153.1835 1365 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2153.1835 (pause 0.71) 2153.8942 1366 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2153.8942 what's the point of complaining? 2154.7917 1367 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2154.7917 (pause 0.46) 2155.2488 1368 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2155.2488 /Whatchu/ complaining for? 2155.9762 1369 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2155.9762 (pause 0.62) 2156.6002 1370 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2156.6002 Oh no, they pushed us out. Well, whatchu gonna do next time they push? 2160.5315 1371 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2160.5315 (pause 0.70) 2161.2322 1372 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2161.2322 You just gonna keep moseying? 2162.2798 1373 DCB_int_01 2162.4051 Push back. 2163.0172 1374 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2163.3509 Exactly, you have to learn something from it. So, 2166.7317 1375 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2166.7317 (pause 0.50) 2167.2322 1376 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2167.2322 As much as I like- I sympathize with people, 2169.3776 1377 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2169.3776 (pause 0.22) 2169.5953 1378 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2169.5953 I get it, 2170.2726 1379 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2170.2726 (pause 0.39) 2170.6597 1380 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2170.6597 but at the same time I'm like, 2171.7941 1381 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2171.7941 (pause 0.69) 2172.4848 1382 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2172.4848 wake up. 2172.9648 1383 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2172.9648 (pause 1.10) 2174.0663 1384 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2174.0663 2174.6702 1385 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2174.6702 (pause 0.26) 2174.9271 1386 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2174.9271 Wake up. 2175.3717 1387 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2175.3717 (pause 1.33) 2176.7064 1388 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2176.7064 You ain't woke up by now? 2177.8408 1389 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2177.8408 (pause 0.34) 2178.1811 1390 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2178.1811 You ain't up yet? 2178.9352 1391 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2178.9352 (pause 0.64) 2179.5792 1392 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2179.5792 Get up. 2180.0997 1393 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2180.0997 (pause 0.49) 2180.5868 1394 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2180.5868 Whatchu waiting on? 2181.3809 1395 DCB_int_01 2181.7579 Mm. 2182.0424 1396 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2183.5572 What- what more do you need? They're- they're literally 2186.6869 1397 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2186.6869 (pause 0.36) 2187.0473 1398 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2187.0473 building buildings on top of overpasses in DC to get people in here. 2191.3158 1399 DCB_int_01 2191.5658 Yes. (whispered) 2192.0378 1400 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2192.3532 [Exactly.] 2193.1451 1401 DCB_int_01 2193.0072 [Yes.] 2193.5911 1402 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2193.7021 Do you understand how th- that [works? They are- they don't] give a damn, they want to fill the city. 2199.0706 1403 DCB_int_01 2195.2602 [/inaudible/] 2196.0042 1404 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2200.8231 To the point where they're building buildings on top of something- it j- it- it shouldn't even- Why are you building a building on an overpass? 2206.8165 1405 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2206.8165 (pause 0.73) 2207.5505 1406 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2207.5505 And then patching it up calling it safe. I don't think that's safe, I don't think there should be a [building up there.] 2212.4428 1407 DCB_int_01 2211.7087 [I'm not gonna live] there, I'm not [going there.] 2213.6973 1408 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2213.2002 [That's what I'm] saying, like it's j- it's that- DC is that desperate. 2217.0940 1409 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2217.8255 DC offer all kinds of money to grocery stores to open up. 2220.9849 1410 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2220.9849 (pause 1.06) 2222.0429 1411 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2222.0429 2222.1130 1412 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2222.1130 (pause 0.09) 2222.2064 1413 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2222.2064 That's why- why you think they finally let Walmart in DC? 2224.1692 1414 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2224.1692 (pause 1.99) 2226.1578 1415 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2226.1578 Why you able to- 2226.7884 1416 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2226.7884 (pause 0.17) 2226.9586 1417 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2226.9586 Th- you have- the things that they are doing is to get people in the city. 2231.4905 1418 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2231.4905 (pause 0.91) 2232.4014 1419 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2232.4014 They're bringing them here, they're drawing them here like a magnet. 2235.1748 1420 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2235.1748 (pause 0.87) 2236.0491 1421 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2236.0491 And it's gonna be that way for a while 2238.1211 1422 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2238.1211 (pause 0.11) 2238.2345 1423 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2238.2345 because they figured out what works. Oh, these young millennials, they like that DC is city 2243.4504 1424 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2243.4504 (pause 0.27) 2243.7240 1425 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2243.7240 but still urban. 2245.1054 1426 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2245.1054 (pause 0.27) 2245.3790 1427 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2245.3790 Just like, 2245.7794 1428 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2245.7794 (pause 0.23) 2246.0062 1429 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2246.0062 you know, suburban, like they can still walk, 2247.9923 1430 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2247.9923 (pause 0.26) 2248.2493 1431 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2248.2493 you know, home and 2249.3303 1432 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2249.3303 (pause 0.25) 2249.5806 1433 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2249.5806 ride their bikes to work and 2251.2021 1434 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2251.2021 (pause 0.36) 2251.5625 1435 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2251.5625 th- you know, go out and have a good time and, 2253.9278 1436 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2253.9278 (pause 0.28) 2254.2092 1437 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2254.2092 you know, 2254.6597 1438 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2254.6597 (pause 0.19) 2254.8498 1439 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2254.8498 still be 2255.5038 1440 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2255.5038 (pause 0.14) 2255.6439 1441 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2255.6439 safe and, 2256.4381 1442 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2256.4381 (pause 0.25) 2256.6883 1443 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2256.6883 you know. They love it. 2257.8528 1444 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2257.8528 (pause 0.52) 2258.3766 1445 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2258.3766 They love it. 2259.1941 1446 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2259.1941 (pause 0.82) 2260.0157 1447 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2260.0157 They figured it out. 2261.0934 1448 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2261.0934 (pause 0.97) 2262.0610 1449 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2262.0610 They got a formula. 2262.8918 1450 DCB_int_01 2263.7727 What happens when it moves to east of the river? 2265.4674 1451 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2266.4027 2266.5128 1452 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2266.5128 (pause 0.78) 2267.2903 1453 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2267.2903 Oh boy, it's gonna get ugly. 2268.9319 1454 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2268.9319 (pause 0.23) 2269.1621 1455 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2269.1621 2269.2388 1456 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2269.2388 (pause 0.27) 2269.5091 1457 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2269.5091 I- you know what, I don't really- 2271.2975 1458 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2271.2975 (pause 2.71) 2274.0110 1459 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2274.0110 I don't really think that 2275.7178 1460 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2275.7178 (pause 1.12) 2276.8337 1461 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2276.8337 they can fully take east of the river. 2279.8074 1462 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2279.8074 (pause 0.87) 2280.6783 1463 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2280.6783 I don't think they can. I think they are trying to, 2284.4318 1464 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2284.4318 (pause 0.60) 2285.0334 1465 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2285.0334 But I think 2286.3480 1466 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2286.3480 (pause 0.56) 2286.9052 1467 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2286.9052 even if they put all the buildings that they wanted up, 2291.3637 1468 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2291.3637 (pause 0.57) 2291.9376 1469 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2291.9376 and they did everything they could to kind of make it this new, shiny space, 2298.6015 1470 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2298.6015 (pause 1.41) 2300.0163 1471 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2300.0163 east of the river has a 2301.7655 1472 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2301.7655 (pause 0.14) 2301.9089 1473 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2301.9089 disconnect from the rest of the city so it's never gonna quite be like downtown 2307.4440 1474 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2307.4440 (pause 0.46) 2307.9056 1475 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2307.9056 or uptown or anything like that. East of the river was always it's own kind of thing. 2313.4718 1476 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2313.4718 (pause 0.67) 2314.1392 1477 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2314.1392 And 2314.7130 1478 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2314.7130 (pause 0.36) 2315.0767 1479 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2315.0767 there is 2316.2646 1480 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2316.2646 (pause 0.21) 2316.4781 1481 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2316.4781 a very, very strong historical 2320.6530 1482 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2320.6530 (pause 0.12) 2320.7731 1483 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2320.7731 black presence in east of the river. I'm talking about like Frederick Douglass home strong, you know what I mean. So there 2327.3537 1484 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2327.3537 (pause 0.39) 2327.7407 1485 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2327.7407 is something there 2329.2956 1486 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2329.2956 (pause 0.42) 2329.7193 1487 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2329.7193 that they can't fully take away from 2332.5896 1488 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2332.5896 (pause 0.41) 2333.0033 1489 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2333.0033 the people that were there. And even just the fact that everything that's around 2338.1792 1490 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2338.1792 (pause 0.34) 2338.5195 1491 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2338.5195 east of the river it's 2339.7641 1492 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2339.7641 (pause 0.18) 2339.9476 1493 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2339.9476 it's still gonna be those people. Even if you push them they not going far, they right there next to you. 2345.0691 1494 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2345.0691 (pause 0.40) 2345.4738 1495 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2345.4738 Cause you can't do but so much w- they- once they hit that Maryland line. They still gonna come right across the street, 2350.7164 1496 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2350.7164 (pause 0.41) 2351.1234 1497 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2351.1234 and come on down and hang out. 2352.7584 1498 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2352.7584 (pause 0.25) 2353.0119 1499 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2353.0119 Like right now on m- um, on Minnesota Avenue, they got that big beautiful building on Minnesota Avenue, you walk and you look past and it's just a bunch of a- black people standing outside. 2362.4328 1500 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2362.4328 (pause 1.08) 2363.5138 1501 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2363.5138 They just standing there not bothering nobody. 2365.5758 1502 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2365.5758 (pause 0.28) 2365.8561 1503 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2365.8561 They not bothering nobody, they out there though. They're not- they- you know what I mean, they're gonna still- 2371.3890 1504 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2371.3890 (pause 1.11) 2372.4967 1505 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2372.4967 I th- I feel like they just gonna still like kind of linger in that area, I don't know. 2376.1645 1506 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2376.1645 (pause 1.18) 2377.3456 1507 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2377.3456 /Um/ that's my guess for east of the river. 2378.8970 1508 DCB_int_01 2378.9171 No that's- 2379.4545 1509 DCB_int_01 2379.4545 (pause 0.22) 2379.6754 1510 DCB_int_01 2379.6754 in fact I work- um, 2380.9766 1511 DCB_int_01 2380.9766 (pause 0.17) 2381.1501 1512 DCB_int_01 2381.1501 I work over there. 2382.0744 1513 DCB_int_01 2382.0744 (pause 0.19) 2382.2646 1514 DCB_int_01 2382.2646 Outside of 2382.7917 1515 DCB_int_01 2382.7917 (pause 0.63) 2383.4223 1516 DCB_int_01 2383.4223 school here I work 2384.1764 1517 DCB_int_01 2384.1764 (pause 0.33) 2384.5067 1518 DCB_int_01 2384.5067 over, um, 2384.9372 1519 DCB_int_01 2384.9372 (pause 0.14) 2385.0740 1520 DCB_int_01 2385.0740 at /RD-WORK-4/ on Benning Road. 2386.3727 1521 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2386.5362 Uh-huh. 2386.9095 1522 DCB_int_01 2387.1868 So every day I 2387.9752 1523 DCB_int_01 2387.9752 (pause 0.21) 2388.1811 1524 DCB_int_01 2388.1811 drive by 2388.8751 1525 DCB_int_01 2388.8751 (pause 0.13) 2389.0053 1526 DCB_int_01 2389.0053 [] Shrimp Boat. 2390.1030 1527 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2389.1921 [Mm-hm] 2389.5348 1528 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2390.4533 Mm-hm. 2390.8004 1529 DCB_int_01 2390.8004 2390.8738 1530 DCB_int_01 2390.8738 (pause 0.87) 2391.7421 1531 DCB_int_01 2391.7421 It's got a facelift. 2392.8098 1532 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2393.0600 Mm-hm. 2393.3703 1533 DCB_int_01 2393.3336 That ain't Shrimp Boat. 2394.2096 1534 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2394.4014 Yeah. 2394.8184 1535 DCB_int_01 2395.9262 Um, 2396.7303 1536 DCB_int_01 2396.7303 (pause 0.34) 2397.0706 1537 DCB_int_01 2397.0706 the condos right there. 2398.1225 1538 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2398.3160 [Yeah.] 2398.5262 1539 DCB_int_01 2398.4394 [They're] adding in that right from- across from Dorothy Height Library. 2401.0234 1540 DCB_int_01 2402.7269 Where'd this come from? 2403.4777 1541 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2403.6153 Yeah. 2403.8771 1542 DCB_int_01 2403.9123 Then corner of Minnesota and Benning. 2405.4738 1543 DCB_int_01 2405.4738 (pause 0.82) 2406.2946 1544 DCB_int_01 2406.2946 W- 2406.4586 1545 DCB_int_01 2406.4586 (pause 0.09) 2406.5515 1546 DCB_int_01 2406.5515 what is this? 2407.2822 1547 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2407.2655 Yeah. 2407.6426 1548 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2408.6769 [Yeah.] 2408.9156 1549 DCB_int_01 2408.7303 [It-] 2408.8571 1550 DCB_int_01 2409.0439 it doesn't fit, 2410.1859 1551 DCB_int_01 2410.1859 (pause 0.11) 2410.2960 1552 DCB_int_01 2410.2960 [right? It-] not to say that they can't fix the area up, 2412.6360 1553 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2410.4261 [Yeah.] 2410.7130 1554 DCB_int_01 2412.9152 but fix it up where it's- it's authentically 2415.0372 1555 DCB_int_01 2415.0372 (pause 0.21) 2415.2475 1556 DCB_int_01 2415.2475 present and it makes sense. [Not-] 2417.0167 1557 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2416.7831 [Yeah.] 2417.1868 1558 DCB_int_01 2418.5615 don't put, 2419.7927 1559 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2421.0973 Yeah. 2421.3509 1560 DCB_int_01 2421.3442 you know, [a Christmas tree-] 2422.9933 1561 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2421.8355 [And that's what I notice.] 2422.9833 1562 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2423.2469 They- they- Like even on Minnesota Avenue there's a Popeye's right there. 2426.4233 1563 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2426.4233 (pause 1.50) 2427.9189 1564 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2427.9189 I noticed [that. They di-] 2429.2202 1565 DCB_int_01 2428.5128 [Just to make sure] it's- 2429.8074 1566 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2429.8508 Yeah, you know what I mean, like I- I noticed that. There's little things 2433.5311 1567 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2433.5311 (pause 0.14) 2433.6687 1568 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2433.6687 and I think they will- See, 2435.7073 1569 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2435.7073 (pause 0.96) 2436.6683 1570 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2436.6683 the thing is, there's also with this whole process, um, and with everything else going on in the nation and all these 2444.3299 1571 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2444.3299 (pause 0.23) 2444.5601 1572 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2444.5601 racial issues that really 2446.3393 1573 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2446.3393 (pause 0.46) 2446.8031 1574 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2446.8031 isn't- 2447.2178 1575 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2447.2178 (pause 0.78) 2447.9943 1576 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2447.9943 Like 2448.2445 1577 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2448.2445 (pause 0.43) 2448.6783 1578 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2448.6783 honestly 2449.9556 1579 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2449.9556 (pause 1.46) 2451.4176 1580 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2451.4176 the way that people 2452.9333 1581 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2452.9333 (pause 0.81) 2453.7474 1582 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2453.7474 are approaching racism right now is just- 2457.4743 1583 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2457.4743 (pause 0.45) 2457.9281 1584 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2457.9281 2457.9915 1585 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2457.9915 (pause 1.06) 2459.0500 1586 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2459.0500 I don't know, like I feel like people aren't really- 2462.3099 1587 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2462.3099 (pause 1.26) 2463.5653 1588 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2463.5653 All these debates that I see on social media- I guess I should say /?/ they're on social media. I saw- I saw actually a funny one the other day. 2469.1507 1589 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2469.1507 (pause 0.58) 2469.7354 1590 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2469.7354 It was a- it was a post 2471.4905 1591 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2471.4905 (pause 0.10) 2471.5872 1592 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2471.5872 that somebody posted and it said, dear white people, 2473.8061 1593 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2473.8061 (pause 0.77) 2474.5801 1594 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2474.5801 aks any question you've ever wanted to aks a black person. 2477.5372 1595 DCB_int_01 2477.4771 I saw. 2477.9442 1596 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2478.0210 You [saw it?] 2478.5648 1597 DCB_int_01 2478.2012 [My-] my 2478.8918 1598 DCB_int_01 2479.0420 cousin put one up on his [page.] 2480.5835 1599 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2480.4667 [Yes,] 2481.1227 1600 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2481.2374 okay. 2481.6353 1601 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2481.6353 (pause 0.36) 2481.9957 1602 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2481.9957 So if you go to the original post- 2484.1745 1603 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2484.1745 (pause 0.11) 2484.2879 1604 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2484.2879 Cause there's 2484.8384 1605 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2484.8384 (pause 0.44) 2485.2822 1606 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2485.2822 hundreds of 2486.4934 1607 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2486.4934 (pause 0.11) 2486.6035 1608 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2486.6035 comments on there. 2487.7454 1609 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2487.7454 (pause 1.25) 2488.9967 1610 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2488.9967 It was good- it was good to see people like posting funny stuff and trying to get down to the root of little, um, stereotypes and things like that. 2498.3065 1611 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2498.3065 (pause 0.43) 2498.7403 1612 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2498.7403 But I think that 2500.4461 1613 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2500.4461 (pause 2.35) 2502.7917 1614 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2502.7917 when we start 2503.7593 1615 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2503.7593 (pause 0.21) 2503.9662 1616 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2503.9662 trying to 2504.9972 1617 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2504.9972 (pause 1.07) 2506.0657 1618 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2506.0657 genuinely understand each other 2508.6149 1619 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2508.6149 (pause 1.17) 2509.7860 1620 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2509.7860 /?/ 2509.8694 1621 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2509.8694 (pause 0.22) 2510.0897 1622 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2510.0897 /?/ 2510.2064 1623 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2510.2064 (pause 0.22) 2510.4300 1624 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2510.4300 and not assume we [know] each other 2513.0638 1625 DCB_int_01 2511.5386 [Mm-hm.] 2512.1800 1626 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2514.0443 then we can approach racism. 2516.1230 1627 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2516.1230 (pause 1.53) 2517.6520 1628 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2517.6520 Then we can approach racism. That's the difference, that's the difference. If you're approaching it as 2523.1707 1629 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2523.1707 (pause 0.31) 2523.4818 1630 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2523.4818 I already know everything about you, tell me something I don't know, 2526.5448 1631 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2526.5448 (pause 1.45) 2527.9996 1632 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2527.9996 that's not- 2528.4956 1633 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2528.4956 (pause 0.25) 2528.7503 1634 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2528.7503 that's not- 2529.1674 1635 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2529.1674 (pause 0.32) 2529.4877 1636 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2529.4877 what? 2529.8144 1637 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2529.8144 (pause 0.11) 2529.9256 1638 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2529.9256 No. 2530.3056 1639 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2530.3056 (pause 0.63) 2530.9366 1640 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2530.9366 That's not how you do that. 2531.7207 1641 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2531.7207 (pause 0.95) 2532.6750 1642 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2532.6750 You have to approach it with 2534.3733 1643 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2534.3733 (pause 0.80) 2535.1740 1644 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2535.1740 I know stuff but it 2536.5395 1645 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2536.5395 (pause 0.16) 2536.6997 1646 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2536.6997 could be wrong. [Can you help] me understand so I know better? 2539.7593 1647 DCB_int_01 2537.8108 [Mm.] 2538.2212 1648 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2541.6253 That's how you approach it. 2542.7464 1649 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2542.7464 (pause 1.70) 2544.4514 1650 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2544.4514 It's not hard. 2545.1421 1651 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2545.1421 (pause 0.14) 2545.2789 1652 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2545.2789 It's just a- just- 2546.0997 1653 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2546.0997 (pause 0.13) 2546.2331 1654 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2546.2331 just a slight- 2546.9238 1655 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2546.9238 (pause 0.31) 2547.2308 1656 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2547.2308 you know what I mean, sw- slightly different approach. 2549.6806 1657 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2549.6806 (pause 0.40) 2550.0844 1658 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2550.0844 And you will get a much different 2552.2598 1659 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2552.2598 (pause 0.41) 2552.6736 1660 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2552.6736 response. 2553.8829 1661 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2553.8829 (pause 2.00) 2555.8842 1662 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2555.8842 So 2556.4722 1663 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2556.4722 (pause 0.24) 2556.7117 1664 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2556.7117 with like, 2557.6050 1665 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2557.6050 (pause 1.91) 2559.5119 1666 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2559.5119 the w- 2559.8145 1667 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2559.8145 (pause 0.14) 2559.9590 1668 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2559.9590 the way that people are in this area, 2562.8284 1669 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2562.8284 (pause 0.75) 2563.5758 1670 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2563.5758 2563.6259 1671 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2563.6259 (pause 1.16) 2564.7870 1672 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2564.7870 you can kind of see it, like you can see that there's- 2567.8942 1673 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2567.8942 (pause 0.29) 2568.1845 1674 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2568.1845 And it's not even that 2569.4924 1675 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2569.4924 (pause 1.50) 2570.9972 1676 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2570.9972 we hate each other in this area it's just we don't understand each [other. It's] like the way that 2576.6836 1677 DCB_int_01 2575.0653 [Mm.] 2575.4324 1678 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2577.7388 the white people look at the black people in this area and the black people look at the white people, it's just- you just- you don't understand each other. 2584.5028 1679 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2584.5028 (pause 0.38) 2584.8832 1680 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2584.8832 Because 2585.6373 1681 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2585.6373 (pause 1.20) 2586.8351 1682 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2586.8351 there- now there are a lot of white people in this area that are from places like- 2591.3770 1683 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2591.3770 (pause 0.19) 2591.5639 1684 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2591.5639 you know what I mean, 2592.7717 1685 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2592.7717 (pause 0.34) 2593.1120 1686 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2593.1120 they're- they're from all over the country. 2594.6374 1687 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2594.6374 (pause 0.43) 2595.0706 1688 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2595.0706 They grew up in these small towns, these rural homes and they just- they don't 2600.2098 1689 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2600.2098 (pause 0.23) 2600.4400 1690 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2600.4400 understand. They just never had encounters where 2604.4948 1691 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2604.4948 (pause 0.79) 2605.2855 1692 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2605.2855 they can see it from a different perspective. A lot of times this is their first time in a city. 2610.1444 1693 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2610.1444 (pause 0.40) 2610.5448 1694 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2610.5448 This is a city to people, DC is a city to people. And yes it is a city, but its like nowhere near like New York or something. You know what I mean, [DC] is still manageable. 2619.0473 1695 DCB_int_01 2617.7360 [Right.] 2617.9662 1696 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2619.5778 And people 2620.2459 1697 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2620.2459 (pause 0.34) 2620.5863 1698 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2620.5863 still come here and they're like in awe of DC. So, 2623.5925 1699 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2623.5925 (pause 0.42) 2624.0096 1700 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2624.0096 like I think if- like if we just 2625.7780 1701 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2625.7780 (pause 0.45) 2626.2292 1702 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2626.2292 you know, 2626.6163 1703 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2626.6163 (pause 0.50) 2627.1168 1704 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2627.1168 took the time to do more to understand each other. And you- you can see it all over DC. I remember, 2631.5711 1705 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2631.5711 (pause 0.49) 2632.0624 1706 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2632.0624 um, 2632.7998 1707 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2632.7998 (pause 0.48) 2633.2803 1708 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2633.2803 seeing Trump signs up and then somebody spray painted over the Trump sign, fuck, so it say fuck Trump. 2639.7641 1709 DCB_int_01 2639.7807 Mm. 2639.9643 1710 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2640.3947 I remember, um, it was very tension- uh, the tension was thick in this area when- when that election went down. That was- 2646.9485 1711 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2646.9485 (pause 0.41) 2647.3556 1712 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2647.3556 that was the most contentious I've ever seen [race] in this area, 2651.2469 1713 DCB_int_01 2649.9723 [Yeah.] 2650.2693 1714 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2651.6573 um, was at that time. 2653.2689 1715 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2653.2689 (pause 0.48) 2653.7527 1716 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2653.7527 And 2654.6168 1717 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2654.6168 (pause 0.62) 2655.2408 1718 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2655.2408 but at the same time, 2656.5362 1719 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2656.5362 (pause 0.23) 2656.7698 1720 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2656.7698 I know 2657.8911 1721 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2657.8911 (pause 2.09) 2659.9829 1722 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2659.9829 lots of people 2661.2108 1723 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2661.2108 (pause 0.62) 2661.8355 1724 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2661.8355 who 2662.6964 1725 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2662.6964 (pause 0.33) 2663.0300 1726 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2663.0300 like 2663.5806 1727 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2663.5806 (pause 1.02) 2664.6049 1728 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2664.6049 have friendships like, 2665.9695 1729 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2665.9695 (pause 0.17) 2666.1397 1730 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2666.1397 you know what I mean, /interracial-/ int- interracial friendships and it's nothing. 2669.2269 1731 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2669.2269 (pause 0.51) 2669.7407 1732 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2669.7407 Like because they grew up in this area too. So [you know] 2673.1173 1733 DCB_int_01 2672.0723 [Mm.] 2672.4341 1734 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2673.5611 that they get it, 2674.6463 1735 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2674.6463 (pause 0.14) 2674.7831 1736 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2674.7831 like they understand it's certain things you can and cannot say, it's certain things you can and cannot do. 2678.8738 1737 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2678.8738 (pause 0.37) 2679.2475 1738 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2679.2475 But I think people from the outside coming in 2681.6673 1739 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2681.6673 (pause 0.56) 2682.2312 1740 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2682.2312 don't really get that. So I don't think it's like a- uh, a race thing in this area, I think it's like a- like a inside outside thing. 2688.6216 1741 DCB_int_01 2689.6959 Mm. 2690.3053 1742 DCB_int_01 2690.3053 (pause 2.23) 2692.5395 1743 DCB_int_01 2692.5395 That's a interesting perspective. So, 2694.2979 1744 DCB_int_01 2694.2979 (pause 2.11) 2696.4066 1745 DCB_int_01 2696.4066 what's something that you can do on the inside? 2697.9256 1746 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2700.1557 2700.2921 1747 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2700.2921 (pause 0.88) 2701.1754 1748 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2701.1754 Something that's inside, um, 2704.0149 1749 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2704.0149 (pause 1.43) 2705.4438 1750 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2705.4438 that's particular to this region. Okay so like, 2708.7670 1751 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2708.7670 (pause 2.93) 2711.7007 1752 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2711.7007 inside stuff for us that we know and that, um, 2715.5244 1753 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2715.5244 (pause 0.20) 2715.7212 1754 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2715.7212 kind of we all understand together is like, 2718.6883 1755 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2718.6883 (pause 0.56) 2719.2455 1756 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2719.2455 the policing system in the area. 2720.6608 1757 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2720.6608 (pause 1.09) 2721.7546 1758 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2721.7546 Like, 2722.2459 1759 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2722.2459 (pause 0.12) 2722.3660 1760 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2722.3660 if you talk to anyone, 2724.1878 1761 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2724.1878 (pause 0.84) 2725.0320 1762 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2725.0320 and this could be black or white, 2726.9211 1763 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2726.9211 (pause 0.95) 2727.8756 1764 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2727.8756 they know that, 2729.7240 1765 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2729.7240 (pause 0.30) 2730.0243 1766 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2730.0243 okay, 2730.8643 1767 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2730.8643 (pause 1.45) 2732.3132 1768 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2732.3132 in Virginia, 2733.7545 1769 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2733.7545 (pause 0.16) 2733.9123 1770 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2733.9123 you may get pulled over for less 2735.8808 1771 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2735.8808 (pause 0.66) 2736.5448 1772 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2736.5448 and held for more. 2738.4054 1773 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2738.4054 (pause 0.78) 2739.1874 1774 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2739.1874 Like they will- they will 2740.5462 1775 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2740.5462 (pause 0.22) 2740.7664 1776 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2740.7664 pin- pull you over for next to nothing, 2742.8264 1777 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2742.8264 (pause 0.53) 2743.3523 1778 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2743.3523 and pin you with everything they can. 2745.1040 1779 DCB_int_01 2746.0290 Mm. 2746.3794 1780 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2747.3770 Doesn't matter. 2748.1578 1781 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2748.1578 (pause 0.12) 2748.2812 1782 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2748.2812 If- if i- if you get pulled over in Virginia, just know that they're gonna throw the book at you. That's something that 2753.2703 1783 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2753.2703 (pause 0.21) 2753.4771 1784 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2753.4771 we know. 2753.9505 1785 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2753.9505 (pause 0.78) 2754.7350 1786 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2754.7350 Versus driving 2756.1130 1787 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2756.1130 (pause 0.63) 2756.7403 1788 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2756.7403 in 2757.6579 1789 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2757.6579 (pause 0.44) 2758.1024 1790 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2758.1024 DC, 2758.7898 1791 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2758.7898 (pause 0.83) 2759.6173 1792 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2759.6173 whereas 2760.7383 1793 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2760.7383 (pause 1.32) 2762.0563 1794 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2762.0563 you have to be doing something 2764.1158 1795 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2764.1158 (pause 0.55) 2764.6697 1796 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2764.6697 almost extreme 2766.5115 1797 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2766.5115 (pause 0.30) 2766.8151 1798 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2766.8151 for them to really mess with you. 2768.6469 1799 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2768.6469 (pause 0.33) 2768.9805 1800 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2768.9805 Because 2769.6245 1801 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2769.6245 (pause 0.29) 2769.9123 1802 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2769.9123 people buck U-turns in the middle of DC streets. 2772.9886 1803 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2772.9886 (pause 0.70) 2773.6893 1804 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2773.6893 Nobody cares 2774.7445 1805 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2774.7445 (pause 0.38) 2775.1273 1806 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2775.1273 about driving in DC. 2776.5095 1807 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2776.5095 (pause 0.14) 2776.6496 1808 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2776.6496 People- they will buck a U-turn in a heartbeat and just keep it going going about their way, in front of an officer. 2781.7313 1809 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2781.7313 (pause 0.67) 2782.4061 1810 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2782.4061 Police officers do it too. 2783.7507 1811 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2783.7507 (pause 0.70) 2784.4481 1812 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2784.4481 It's a difference. But you wouldn't do that in Virginia cause you know 2787.8814 1813 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2787.8814 (pause 0.20) 2788.0791 1814 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2788.0791 it's just a U-turn, but they're gonna get you, they're gonna throw the book at you. 2791.1554 1815 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2791.1554 (pause 1.29) 2792.4500 1816 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2792.4500 Versus, you know, being in Maryland, driving through certain ar- areas in Maryland. Like certain areas, the State Troopers are waiting for you in Maryland. 2799.9481 1817 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2799.9481 (pause 0.21) 2800.1592 1818 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2800.1592 They're waiting for you, they have traps. 2801.8041 1819 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2801.8041 (pause 0.78) 2802.5815 1820 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2802.5815 It's a inside thing. We know. So w- if we- if we- 2806.1191 1821 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2806.1191 (pause 0.38) 2806.4995 1822 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2806.4995 you know, if we're talking about police in our area and how they behave, 2811.7313 1823 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2811.7313 (pause 0.30) 2812.0357 1824 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2812.0357 it's not a race thing, it's not saying like, oh white cops is always on our back. 2815.4602 1825 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2815.4602 (pause 0.29) 2815.7460 1826 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2815.7460 No it's a area thing, like no, it's just a- it's a- it's a- it's a inside thing. We know, we know better. 2820.4145 1827 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2820.4145 (pause 0.48) 2820.8952 1828 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2820.8952 That's a inside thing. 2821.6432 1829 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2821.6432 (pause 0.77) 2822.4100 1830 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2822.4100 So if I say, 2823.2833 1831 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2823.2833 (pause 0.24) 2823.5244 1832 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2823.5244 police are press in- press in Virginia, 2825.2903 1833 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2825.2903 (pause 0.46) 2825.7507 1834 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2825.7507 they're like- you know, somebody from the outside must be like, oh wow maybe cause that's a predominantly white area, you think police are more 2831.5038 1835 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2831.5038 (pause 0.48) 2831.9809 1836 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2831.9809 likely to pull you over cause you're black in Virginia. No it's because the police are literally more annoying in Virginia. 2837.3070 1837 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2837.3070 (pause 0.86) 2838.1678 1838 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2838.1678 [It's not-] (laughing) 2838.7450 1839 DCB_int_01 2838.6449 [] 2840.0496 1840 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2839.5391 [it's not a race] thing. 2840.8671 1841 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2841.6111 You know what I mean, [that's-] that's kind of like a- I guess that's a- a way to put it in perspective, like we don't- 2846.6902 1842 DCB_int_01 2842.4928 [Right.] 2842.8262 1843 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2847.9189 It's not necessarily a race thing it's just like the different areas to us, it kind of blends together. And we know it's some- some stuff that's just like, 2856.1578 1844 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2856.1578 (pause 0.79) 2856.9452 1845 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2856.9452 you know, 2857.5191 1846 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2857.5191 (pause 0.12) 2857.6392 1847 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2857.6392 like some- like when we- when we make fun and we see white people running around in DC we know /what they like,/ they like to run, they like to jog. You know, you used to go into Virginia you'll see automatically 2867.9442 1848 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2867.9442 (pause 0.49) 2868.4314 1849 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2868.4314 bike trails and paths and stuff like that, you don't see a whole lot of that in Maryland. 2872.0315 1850 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2872.0315 (pause 0.50) 2872.5362 1851 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2872.5362 You have to go to a park area to find a trail almost. 2875.1688 1852 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2875.1688 (pause 0.39) 2875.5558 1853 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2875.5558 Like you gotta go to like a regional park like it's gonna be like a county park or a state park just to get a trail to go 2881.6592 1854 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2881.6592 (pause 0.98) 2882.6435 1855 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2882.6435 jog if you wanted to. 2883.6979 1856 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2883.6979 (pause 0.41) 2884.1125 1857 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2884.1125 Different, it's regional. 2885.3870 1858 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2885.3870 (pause 0.29) 2885.6806 1859 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2885.6806 It's not- it's not- 2886.8318 1860 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2886.8318 (pause 0.34) 2887.1688 1861 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2887.1688 it's not black and white in my mind. 2888.6435 1862 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2888.6435 (pause 0.94) 2889.5844 1863 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2889.5844 It's not because 2890.5562 1864 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2890.5562 (pause 0.34) 2890.8966 1865 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2890.8966 the black people that lived in Alexandria got to jog when they wanted to so, you know what I mean, (laughing) they had access to the same bike trails. 2897.4471 1866 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2897.4471 (pause 0.31) 2897.7607 1867 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2897.7607 We used to walk down that bike trail to go to the Seven-Eleven. So it's not- 2902.0883 1868 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2902.0883 (pause 0.66) 2902.7464 1869 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2902.7464 it's not really black and white it's like, 2904.3212 1870 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2904.3212 (pause 0.16) 2904.4814 1871 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2904.4814 more like 2905.0186 1872 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2905.0186 (pause 0.25) 2905.2722 1873 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2905.2722 just regional distinctions to me. 2907.1107 1874 DCB_int_01 2907.8088 Do you think- 2908.5429 1875 DCB_int_01 2908.5429 (pause 0.12) 2908.6597 1876 DCB_int_01 2908.6597 So you said you're a Lyft driver, is that- 2910.7650 1877 DCB_int_01 2910.7650 (pause 0.34) 2911.1087 1878 DCB_int_01 2911.1087 is it fun? 2911.5500 1879 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2912.0730 Oh I love Lyfting. 2912.9850 1880 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2912.9850 (pause 0.57) 2913.5586 1881 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2913.5586 I meet the funniest people 2915.2302 1882 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2915.2302 (pause 0.12) 2915.3503 1883 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2915.3503 Lyft driving. 2916.1543 1884 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2916.1543 (pause 0.11) 2916.2679 1885 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2916.2679 Yeah, I do like it. 2917.3990 1886 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2917.3990 (pause 0.11) 2917.5091 1887 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2917.5091 It's- 2917.7427 1888 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2917.7427 (pause 0.35) 2918.0930 1889 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2918.0930 it's cool because again, I'm one of those people that need freedom, I need to be able to do it when I want to, so 2923.1411 1890 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2923.1411 (pause 0.17) 2923.3156 1891 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2923.3156 it's good for me. 2924.1097 1892 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2924.1097 (pause 0.28) 2924.3866 1893 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2924.3866 Um, it's flexible. 2925.1400 1894 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2925.1400 (pause 0.15) 2925.2942 1895 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2925.2942 And then, 2925.8522 1896 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2925.8522 (pause 0.35) 2926.1992 1897 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2926.1992 the people that I meet 2927.2402 1898 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2927.2402 (pause 0.46) 2927.6973 1899 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2927.6973 are always interested and curious about 2930.7036 1900 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2930.7036 (pause 0.17) 2930.8771 1901 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2930.8771 growing up here. They always wanna know 2933.6640 1902 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2933.6640 (pause 0.43) 2934.0944 1903 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2934.0944 where are you from, 2935.0820 1904 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2935.0820 (pause 0.37) 2935.4490 1905 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2935.4490 and what's it like. 2936.3933 1906 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2936.3933 (pause 0.49) 2936.8838 1907 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2936.8838 As if there is some 2939.0901 1908 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2939.0901 (pause 0.14) 2939.2335 1909 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2939.2335 epic story to growing up 2941.3189 1910 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2941.3189 (pause 0.16) 2941.4824 1911 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2941.4824 in DC that is- d- every- every DC native has, they must have some epic story about DC. 2947.1454 1912 DCB_int_01 2947.9429 But that's the perception, right? That's- 2949.7121 1913 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2949.7154 It [is.] 2950.7912 1914 DCB_int_01 2950.0524 [People think] that it's- 2951.4674 1915 DCB_int_01 2951.8975 w- I think there's two reasons, right? B- [one], I think because- 2954.8058 1916 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2953.4957 [Mm.] 2953.8594 1917 DCB_int_01 2955.9423 because there's the DC of CNN, 2957.9075 1918 DCB_int_01 2957.9075 (pause 0.27) 2958.1778 1919 DCB_int_01 2958.1778 and there's the real DC right? [Because once] you walk outside of 2961.0973 1920 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2959.5692 [Yeah.] 2959.8761 1921 DCB_int_01 2961.3142 three or four blocks, it's not like that. 2963.0869 1922 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2963.0934 Yeah. 2963.5054 1923 DCB_int_01 2963.5939 And so, 2964.3980 1924 DCB_int_01 2964.3980 (pause 0.28) 2964.6783 1925 DCB_int_01 2964.6783 once people are here and they see that they're like, oh wait I've been deceived all my life [cause it's not] that way. 2968.9866 1926 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2968.0824 [Yeah.] 2968.3694 1927 DCB_int_01 2969.2769 And the second thing is because you get the myth that there are no people from DC. 2972.3036 1928 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2972.5534 Yeah. 2972.9205 1929 DCB_int_01 2972.9572 And so when you meet somebody who's from DC or even from this area that grew up in this area, 2976.5515 1930 DCB_int_01 2976.5515 (pause 0.31) 2976.8618 1931 DCB_int_01 2976.8618 wait I didn't think there was anybody from here, so now li- like, there must be a story. 2979.8155 1932 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2979.8088 [Yeah.] 2980.1425 1933 DCB_int_01 2980.0124 [So] when you have those two things coming together, 2981.8775 1934 DCB_int_01 2982.2312 like, oh my g- there has to be some amazing crazy story that happened to you. 2985.7279 1935 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2985.8989 [Yeah.] 2986.2296 1936 DCB_int_01 2985.9857 [Did you have] like, playtime at the White House every day? Did you- 2989.1054 1937 DCB_int_01 2989.4490 You know, I [mean, like it has to be] something crazy, like, right? Did you [have like-] 2992.2893 1938 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2989.7260 [] 2990.3666 1939 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2990.3666 (pause 1.41) 2991.7788 1940 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2991.7788 [Yeah.] 2992.3026 1941 DCB_int_01 2993.0133 I don't know. But people in their minds make [up this] big [whole thing] like, 2996.2598 1942 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2994.8051 [They make-] 2995.2555 1943 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2995.2555 (pause 0.24) 2995.4957 1944 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2995.4957 [Yeah.] 2996.0157 1945 DCB_int_01 2996.4700 dude I just 2997.0506 1946 DCB_int_01 2997.0506 (pause 0.23) 2997.2775 1947 DCB_int_01 2997.2775 did the same shit you did, [like-] 2998.5629 1948 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 2998.3293 [Exactly.] 2999.4071 1949 DCB_int_01 2999.2602 [like] that's just kind of how it- 3001.0962 1950 DCB_int_01 3001.9195 But in their minds because- because 3003.9990 1951 DCB_int_01 3003.9990 (pause 0.11) 3004.1125 1952 DCB_int_01 3004.1125 these other factors come into play, 3005.8108 1953 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3005.8375 Mm-hm. 3006.2245 1954 DCB_int_01 3006.2445 you- 3006.6349 1955 DCB_int_01 3006.6349 (pause 0.44) 3007.0787 1956 DCB_int_01 3007.0787 it becomes this whole thing. 3008.6736 1957 DCB_int_01 3008.6736 (pause 0.38) 3009.0573 1958 DCB_int_01 3009.0573 How'd you- how did- how did we- I mean, I know how we got connected but how did 3012.4450 1959 DCB_int_01 3012.4450 (pause 0.34) 3012.7884 1960 DCB_int_01 3012.7884 you and /RD-NAME-1/ start talking to get- 3014.4800 1961 DCB_int_01 3014.4800 (pause 0.41) 3014.8871 1962 DCB_int_01 3014.8871 to get us here to this [point?] 3016.4461 1963 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3016.1925 [Oh] man, so 3017.6973 1964 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3017.7841 that particular night that I met /RD-NAME-1/ I was catching a Lyft, 3021.2908 1965 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3021.2908 (pause 0.11) 3021.4051 1966 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3021.4051 so. 3021.9723 1967 DCB_int_01 3022.4361 [] 3023.6573 1968 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3023.3437 [] 3023.5605 1969 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3024.6683 [What had happened was-] 3025.8628 1970 DCB_int_01 3024.6783 [Which is totally different.] 3025.7356 1971 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3026.1797 I know it was totally different. Um, 3027.9682 1972 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3027.9682 (pause 0.46) 3028.4294 1973 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3028.4294 it was a Friday night, 3029.5828 1974 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3029.5828 (pause 0.53) 3030.1144 1975 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3030.1144 I had got published in Capitol Romance that day. Um, one of my s- photoshoots got published. 3035.4838 1976 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3035.4838 (pause 0.34) 3035.8208 1977 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3035.8208 I said, you know what, screw it, I'm going out tonight, I'm gonna hit U Street. 3039.8614 1978 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3039.8614 (pause 0.64) 3040.5062 1979 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3040.5062 Went out, 3041.4752 1980 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3041.4752 (pause 0.31) 3041.7874 1981 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3041.7874 looked for parking for forty-five god darn minutes. 3044.9305 1982 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3044.9305 (pause 0.38) 3045.3108 1983 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3045.3108 Couldn't find not s- stitch of parking near U Street. So I drove all the way down 3049.4223 1984 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3049.4223 (pause 0.27) 3049.6893 1985 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3049.6893 to Constitution Ave. 3050.7503 1986 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3050.7503 (pause 0.34) 3051.0906 1987 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3051.0906 I said, I'm'a go over here by the government buildings where I know my car's not gonna get broken into and I'm still in the city, 3056.2632 1988 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3056.2632 (pause 0.25) 3056.5167 1989 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3056.5167 and I parked my car and I called a Lyft from there. 3058.8031 1990 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3058.8031 (pause 0.62) 3059.4237 1991 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3059.4237 The difference is if I woulda went all the way home 3061.8594 1992 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3061.8594 (pause 0.34) 3062.2031 1993 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3062.2031 to Temple Hills and called a Lyft and parked my car at my house, that Lyft woulda been like twenty dollars. 3066.5715 1994 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3066.5715 (pause 0.40) 3066.9686 1995 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3066.9686 I called a Lyft from Constitution Avenue to U Street, it was four dollars and sixty-seven cents. 3071.0555 1996 DCB_int_01 3071.9576 3072.5642 1997 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3072.6149 Big damn difference. 3073.6759 1998 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3073.6759 (pause 0.31) 3073.9896 1999 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3073.9896 Using my noodle. 3074.7570 2000 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3074.7570 (pause 0.29) 3075.0506 2001 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3075.0506 So, 3075.4476 2002 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3075.4476 (pause 0.28) 3075.7279 2003 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3075.7279 I was like, I'm going out, 3077.0067 2004 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3077.0067 (pause 0.43) 3077.4337 2005 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3077.4337 I had called a Lyft. 3078.3877 2006 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3078.3877 (pause 0.40) 3078.7917 2007 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3078.7917 Um, I was talking to the Lyft driver, it was a Lyft Line of course, and /RD-NAME-1/ got in. Um, 3083.4071 2008 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3083.4071 (pause 0.41) 3083.8208 2009 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3083.8208 and- and I was just talking and, 3086.7937 2010 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3086.7937 (pause 0.57) 3087.3642 2011 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3087.3642 you know, it was one of those things where 3089.5105 2012 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3089.5105 (pause 2.20) 3091.7093 2013 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3091.7093 I was being me, 3092.6535 2014 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3092.6535 (pause 0.40) 3093.0581 2015 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3093.0581 talking about my publishing in Capitol Romance and everything like that. And then it was just like, one thing led to another and it was like, 3100.4261 2016 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3100.4261 (pause 0.19) 3100.6196 2017 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3100.6196 you gotta do this- 3101.6640 2018 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3101.6640 (pause 0.15) 3101.8141 2019 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3101.8141 this interview because 3103.4524 2020 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3103.4524 (pause 0.17) 3103.6192 2021 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3103.6192 I'm very curious to hear more of your story. 3106.4995 2022 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3106.4995 (pause 0.90) 3107.4037 2023 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3107.4037 And that's usually like, you know, 3109.0086 2024 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3109.0086 (pause 0.15) 3109.1621 2025 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3109.1621 how it happens. 3109.9629 2026 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3109.9629 (pause 0.69) 3110.6535 2027 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3110.6535 I start talking (laughing) and people are like, what? 3112.5696 2028 DCB_int_01 3113.7207 No, it's been- 3114.8351 2029 DCB_int_01 3114.8351 (pause 0.46) 3115.2989 2030 DCB_int_01 3115.2989 Just to hear- 3116.4367 2031 DCB_int_01 3116.4367 (pause 0.90) 3117.3317 2032 DCB_int_01 3117.3317 So I'm really interested in how people think about DC. 3119.6706 2033 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3119.7674 Mm-hm. 3120.1544 2034 DCB_int_01 3120.1578 And to hear your thoughts on DC and the way you've 3123.1335 2035 DCB_int_01 3123.1335 (pause 0.78) 3123.9089 2036 DCB_int_01 3123.9089 painted the picture and thinking about how people think about 3127.8828 2037 DCB_int_01 3127.8828 (pause 0.28) 3128.1664 2038 DCB_int_01 3128.1664 the change 3128.9805 2039 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3129.1749 Mm-hm. 3129.4785 2040 DCB_int_01 3129.4585 has been absolutely amazing. 3131.0334 2041 DCB_int_01 3131.1201 Like, 3131.5441 2042 DCB_int_01 3131.5441 (pause 0.71) 3132.2512 2043 DCB_int_01 3132.2512 um, 3132.8618 2044 DCB_int_01 3132.8618 (pause 0.22) 3133.0853 2045 DCB_int_01 3133.0853 3133.5587 2046 DCB_int_01 3133.5587 (pause 1.55) 3135.1107 2047 DCB_int_01 3135.1107 different, 3135.8320 2048 DCB_int_01 3135.8320 (pause 0.28) 3136.1125 2049 DCB_int_01 3136.1125 um, 3136.9199 2050 DCB_int_01 3136.9199 (pause 1.14) 3138.0577 2051 DCB_int_01 3138.0577 and 3138.3177 2052 DCB_int_01 3138.3177 (pause 0.40) 3138.7150 2053 DCB_int_01 3138.7150 I have just really enjoyed it. Because I think- 3140.5801 2054 DCB_int_01 3140.5801 (pause 0.23) 3140.8137 2055 DCB_int_01 3140.8137 I [think] one, sometimes either- 3142.7276 2056 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3140.9405 [Mm-hm.] 3141.2516 2057 DCB_int_01 3143.3470 And you're young, like we're almost the same age. [And] I think- 3147.0539 2058 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3145.5291 [Mm-hm.] 3145.9118 2059 DCB_int_01 3147.9790 But you've seen a lot of things, one with Lyft but I also think 3150.1511 2060 DCB_int_01 3150.1511 (pause 0.14) 3150.2879 2061 DCB_int_01 3150.2879 being- 3150.6382 2062 DCB_int_01 3150.6382 (pause 0.31) 3150.9519 2063 DCB_int_01 3150.9519 And your whole thing about you love the /millennials/ coming in, meeting at the bar. 3154.0279 2064 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3154.2860 [Mm-hm.] 3154.6196 2065 DCB_int_01 3154.2860 [and getting] married. 3155.1300 2066 DCB_int_01 3155.3637 Because I think that shows that 3156.6783 2067 DCB_int_01 3156.6783 (pause 1.28) 3157.9595 2068 DCB_int_01 3157.9595 instead of being upset with the system, make the system work for you. And that's one of the things I tell 3161.4071 2069 DCB_int_01 3161.4071 (pause 0.37) 3161.7741 2070 DCB_int_01 3161.7741 k- I work with kids. 3162.9101 2071 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3163.0587 Mm-hm. 3163.3756 2072 DCB_int_01 3163.6592 All the time like, 3164.5167 2073 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3164.6802 Mm-hm. 3165.0539 2074 DCB_int_01 3165.0039 don't get mad at the game, play it, 3166.5064 2075 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3166.6163 Yeah. 3167.0434 2076 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3167.0434 (pause 0.60) 3167.6439 2077 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3167.6439 [Yeah.] 3167.9276 2078 DCB_int_01 3167.7407 [and] win. 3168.3213 2079 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3168.5348 Yeah. 3168.8852 2080 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3168.8852 (pause 0.87) 3169.7593 2081 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3169.7593 Pretty much. 3170.4867 2082 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3170.4867 (pause 0.56) 3171.0514 2083 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3171.0514 That's it. 3171.4652 2084 DCB_int_01 3171.5286 Like people get mad at the game because they don't- they aren't good at it. 3174.4481 2085 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3174.5081 Yeah. 3174.9586 2086 DCB_int_01 3175.5725 That's the only reason you get mad at it because you don't know how to play. 3178.4161 2087 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3178.5596 Mm-hm. 3178.9766 2088 DCB_int_01 3179.1935 Like if you're playing /scrapple/ with /monoboly/- 3180.7550 2089 DCB_int_01 3180.7550 (pause 0.44) 3181.1921 2090 DCB_int_01 3181.1921 playing Scrabble with Monopoly money you're gonna lose every day of the week. 3183.8447 2091 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3183.8355 Mm-hm. 3184.2289 2092 DCB_int_01 3184.2092 But as soon as you get you some /scrapple-/ some Scrabble tiles you're gonna start winning cause you're gonna start making words, 3188.3099 2093 DCB_int_01 3188.6202 and you're gonna start getting those points just like everybody else. 3190.7965 2094 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3190.8298 [Exactly.] 3191.4365 2095 DCB_int_01 3191.0834 [But when people] don't know how to play the game- 3192.8051 2096 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3193.0486 That's it. 3193.4980 2097 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3193.4980 (pause 0.87) 3194.3666 2098 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3194.3666 And the thing is, there's a lot of people that don't want people to know how to play the [game. It makes] it easier for them to play. 3200.1531 2099 DCB_int_01 3198.1144 [Mm.] 3198.6597 2100 DCB_int_01 3200.6869 Yup. 3200.9389 2101 DCB_int_01 3200.9389 (pause 0.23) 3201.1707 2102 DCB_int_01 3201.1707 [And using that advantage.] 3202.4495 2103 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3201.1816 [It makes it easier.] 3202.0922 2104 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3202.5362 [Yes.] 3203.3503 2105 DCB_int_01 3203.1735 [So] tell me how you- Okay so, talked about the wedding, 3205.2522 2106 DCB_int_01 3205.4891 what has been your craziest w- 3207.1173 2107 DCB_int_01 3207.1173 (pause 0.35) 3207.4710 2108 DCB_int_01 3207.4710 experience in the whole wedding planning business? 3209.2536 2109 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3209.5572 Oh man. 3210.3025 2110 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3210.3025 (pause 0.87) 3211.1754 2111 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3211.1754 Um, 3212.0963 2112 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3212.0963 (pause 0.38) 3212.4800 2113 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3212.4800 craziest experience. 3214.6230 2114 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3214.6230 (pause 1.23) 3215.8508 2115 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3215.8508 So, um, 3217.4668 2116 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3217.4668 (pause 2.71) 3220.1759 2117 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3220.1759 I- I once did a wedding. 3221.4504 2118 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3221.4504 (pause 0.60) 3222.0543 2119 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3222.0543 Mm, gosh. 3222.8584 2120 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3222.8584 (pause 0.29) 3223.1487 2121 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3223.1487 And I wrote about this on my blog because it was very, very disturbing. 3226.4394 2122 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3226.4394 (pause 0.35) 3226.7931 2123 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3226.7931 I once did a wedding 3227.7941 2124 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3227.7941 (pause 0.39) 3228.1811 2125 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3228.1811 where 3228.8818 2126 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3228.8818 (pause 0.27) 3229.1487 2127 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3229.1487 the caterer was 3230.9672 2128 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3230.9672 (pause 0.16) 3231.1315 2129 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3231.1315 an absolute diva. 3232.2392 2130 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3232.2392 (pause 0.25) 3232.4862 2131 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3232.4862 And matter of fact I've done a couple weddings where the caterer has been a diva, but in this particular case, the- the caterer was like, really, really upsetting. 3239.8441 2132 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3239.8441 (pause 0.51) 3240.3580 2133 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3240.3580 Um, 3240.8117 2134 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3240.8117 (pause 0.18) 3240.9919 2135 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3240.9919 it's pretty standard or at least normal in 3245.2035 2136 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3245.2035 (pause 0.18) 3245.3804 2137 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3245.3804 my mind, /and I don't uh, I b- I don't-/ I'm only the wedding planner here, 3249.4110 2138 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3249.4110 (pause 0.37) 3249.7855 2139 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3249.7855 that the caterer, they usually have a team of people 3252.9452 2140 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3252.9452 (pause 0.44) 3253.3823 2141 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3253.3823 that, um, 3254.4634 2142 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3254.4634 (pause 0.30) 3254.7636 2143 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3254.7636 set up the tables and chairs, 3256.9666 2144 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3256.9666 (pause 0.11) 3257.0801 2145 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3257.0801 you know, get stuff ready for- You know, just at least set the tables and chairs up. 3260.6358 2146 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3260.6358 (pause 0.09) 3260.7248 2147 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3260.7248 And maybe they don't wanna put the linen on it, maybe a decorator drops the linen and the centerpiece. 3264.7050 2148 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3264.7050 (pause 0.34) 3265.0486 2149 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3265.0486 They come back and put the place settings, stuff like that. 3267.6153 2150 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3267.6153 (pause 0.16) 3267.7788 2151 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3267.7788 Work as a team. 3268.6063 2152 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3268.6063 (pause 1.68) 3270.2846 2153 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3270.2846 If not the caterer, 3271.5625 2154 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3271.5625 (pause 0.46) 3272.0196 2155 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3272.0196 then maybe the rental company, whoever dropped off the tables and chairs, but nine times out of ten it's the caterer, it's always been the caterer. 3278.7937 2156 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3278.7937 (pause 0.70) 3279.4952 2157 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3279.4952 So on the day of this woman's wedding, the caterer was there, after we had already had issues about where she was gonna set up because the bride had changed venues. 3288.9953 2158 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3288.9953 (pause 0.32) 3289.3189 2159 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3289.3189 And so the venue went from a indoor venue to a outdoor venue. 3292.4862 2160 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3292.4862 (pause 0.60) 3293.0901 2161 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3293.0901 She had opportunity to come see the venue b- 3296.8337 2162 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3296.8337 (pause 0.18) 3297.0114 2163 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3297.0114 beforehand but waited til the week of the wedding to come see the space, 3300.8952 2164 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3300.8952 (pause 0.29) 3301.1854 2165 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3301.1854 the new space. 3302.1230 2166 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3302.1230 (pause 0.46) 3302.5868 2167 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3302.5868 Um, 3303.3509 2168 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3303.3509 (pause 0.22) 3303.5686 2169 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3303.5686 decided that, you know, the way that it was set up she wasn't gonna be able to do her job 3309.8213 2170 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3309.8213 (pause 0.25) 3310.0724 2171 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3310.0724 as expected because the kitchen was too far from the tent. 3313.1654 2172 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3313.1654 (pause 0.25) 3313.4190 2173 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3313.4190 3313.4891 2174 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3313.4891 (pause 0.24) 3313.7326 2175 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3313.7326 So she wanted the bride to pay for another tent 3316.5358 2176 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3316.5358 (pause 0.29) 3316.8265 2177 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3316.8265 so that she could have her own tent to be set up in. Again, this is something that's in my mind, why don't you have your own tent? 3322.8432 2178 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3322.8432 (pause 0.43) 3323.2703 2179 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3323.2703 You're the business person, 3324.6649 2180 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3324.6649 (pause 0.35) 3325.0119 2181 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3325.0119 not her, why you making her pay for a tent? But regardless, she- the bride paid for a tent so that the 3329.1368 2182 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3329.1368 (pause 0.23) 3329.3637 2183 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3329.3637 caterer could be closer to the- 3330.8084 2184 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3330.8084 (pause 0.15) 3330.9619 2185 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3330.9619 to the actual tent that the reception was in. 3332.8838 2186 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3332.8838 (pause 0.47) 3333.3576 2187 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3333.3576 So on the day of the wedding, there she is in her little tent, she's getting it all set up. Tables in- 3337.7860 2188 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3337.7860 (pause 0.21) 3337.9996 2189 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3337.9996 the- the tables are broken down on the floor, 3340.0156 2190 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3340.0156 (pause 0.49) 3340.5028 2191 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3340.5028 on the ground. I'm like, oh, you know, are you and your guys gonna get these set up? 3344.4734 2192 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3344.4734 (pause 0.99) 3345.4677 2193 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3345.4677 She's like, 3345.8889 2194 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3345.8889 (pause 0.13) 3346.0224 2195 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3346.0224 oh, no I'm not doing that, if I do it it's gonna be another hun- two hundred and fifty dollars. 3349.9128 2196 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3349.9128 (pause 0.76) 3350.6702 2197 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3350.6702 At this point it's this bride's wedding day. 3352.5462 2198 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3352.5462 (pause 0.45) 3352.9933 2199 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3352.9933 You're not gonna come to me with any additional cost that you want me to take to her because that is gonna piss her the fudge off. And my job as a wedding planner 3361.0954 2200 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3361.0954 (pause 0.29) 3361.3856 2201 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3361.3856 is to keep her stress free. 3363.0740 2202 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3363.0740 (pause 0.33) 3363.4084 2203 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3363.4084 She's supposed to be blissfully blind the entire day 3366.7484 2204 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3366.7484 (pause 0.24) 3366.9919 2205 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3366.9919 so that even if stuff does go wrong, 3369.1774 2206 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3369.1774 (pause 0.27) 3369.4451 2207 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3369.4451 she don't know about it. 3370.8098 2208 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3370.8098 (pause 0.21) 3371.0233 2209 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3371.0233 She just thinks everything's going according to plan. That is my job as a planner. So no, I'm not about to go to her f- for this two hundred and fifty dollar 3378.2078 2210 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3378.2078 (pause 0.36) 3378.5719 2211 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3378.5719 up charge that you wanna charge on the day of her wedding. 3380.8355 2212 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3380.8355 (pause 0.86) 3381.6958 2213 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3381.6958 That was one thing. 3382.3398 2214 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3382.3398 (pause 0.57) 3382.9136 2215 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3382.9136 You know, even after the tent thing I had to calm the bride down after that. 3386.6081 2216 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3386.6081 (pause 0.83) 3387.4355 2217 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3387.4355 Even, you know, now on the day of, th- 3389.3641 2218 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3389.3641 (pause 0.13) 3389.4909 2219 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3389.4909 the tables, I grab some- the groom and the- some- some- some groomsmen, hey- hey guys. 3394.0995 2220 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3394.0995 (pause 0.26) 3394.3631 2221 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3394.3631 Can you get these set up for me? 3395.6110 2222 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3395.6110 (pause 0.29) 3395.8979 2223 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3395.8979 I know you guys got a couple more minutes before you gotta get dressed, 3398.6748 2224 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3398.6748 (pause 0.22) 3398.8917 2225 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3398.8917 just throw these tables up, 3400.0762 2226 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3400.0762 (pause 0.44) 3400.5199 2227 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3400.5199 throws these chairs up, 3401.4699 2228 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3401.4699 (pause 0.37) 3401.8379 2229 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3401.8379 and we're good. 3402.3450 2230 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3402.3450 (pause 0.30) 3402.6487 2231 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3402.6487 Cause the ta- chairs are stacked. That's some stuff you need- you need 3405.3288 2232 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3405.3288 (pause 0.19) 3405.5156 2233 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3405.5156 man arms for. 3406.4899 2234 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3406.4899 (pause 0.36) 3406.8469 2235 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3406.8469 So, um, 3407.7278 2236 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3407.7278 (pause 0.25) 3407.9747 2237 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3407.9747 I'm a wedding planner, I don't carry man arms on me. 3410.1884 2238 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3410.1884 (pause 0.43) 3410.6226 2239 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3410.6226 Um, 3411.1186 2240 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3411.1186 (pause 1.83) 3412.9512 2241 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3412.9512 they got everything all set up. 3414.5747 2242 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3414.5747 (pause 0.92) 3415.4963 2243 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3415.4963 Um, 3416.3045 2244 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3416.3045 (pause 0.47) 3416.7702 2245 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3416.7702 we were getting through the day okay, 3419.0857 2246 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3419.0857 (pause 0.79) 3419.8761 2247 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3419.8761 um, you know, even with that little hiccup. 3421.9751 2248 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3421.9751 (pause 0.98) 3422.9506 2249 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3422.9506 As they were doing the place settings, I remember her staff kept coming to me, 3428.0866 2250 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3428.0866 (pause 0.38) 3428.4652 2251 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3428.4652 kind of, um, asking me, you know, where do things go. That's another thing, it's like, when your staff has to come aks me questions, what are you doing? 3436.6856 2252 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3436.6856 (pause 0.48) 3437.1611 2253 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3437.1611 That's another issue I had. Okay, still trying to get through the day. 3440.2771 2254 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3440.2771 (pause 0.32) 3440.5931 2255 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3440.5931 Fast forward to dinner. 3441.6000 2256 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3441.6000 (pause 1.20) 3442.8004 2257 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3442.8004 3442.8627 2258 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3442.8627 (pause 0.21) 3443.0726 2259 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3443.0726 We know, 3443.5941 2260 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3443.5941 (pause 0.51) 3444.1057 2261 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3444.1057 dinner time. 3444.6468 2262 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3444.6468 (pause 0.41) 3445.0601 2263 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3445.0601 Vendors come to me and aks me, 3447.1146 2264 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3447.1146 (pause 0.21) 3447.3278 2265 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3447.3278 because I'm the planner, they know I know, 3448.9086 2266 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3448.9086 (pause 0.55) 3449.4629 2267 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3449.4629 what time can we eat, 3450.6045 2268 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3450.6045 (pause 0.38) 3450.9814 2269 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3450.9814 where do we go to eat, 3452.1818 2270 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3452.1818 (pause 0.31) 3452.4882 2271 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3452.4882 what are we getting to eat? 3453.5508 2272 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3453.5508 (pause 0.56) 3454.1083 2273 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3454.1083 That's what they do. 3454.8004 2274 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3454.8004 (pause 0.38) 3455.1808 2275 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3455.1808 They gonna come to me and aks. They're not gonna go to the bride and aks because they know, they've already had in their contract they get a vendor meal. 3461.0660 2276 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3461.0660 (pause 0.31) 3461.3809 2277 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3461.3809 The planner should know, cause she gotta eat too. So they could all come to me. 3464.3982 2278 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3464.3982 (pause 0.38) 3464.7768 2279 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3464.7768 So the band is coming up to me, maybe like two by two, three by three, they coming up to me anywhere, they're- they're aksing me the same dang question. 3470.7065 2280 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3470.7065 (pause 0.33) 3471.0359 2281 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3471.0359 Apparently they aksed the caterer too, 3472.6495 2282 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3472.6495 (pause 0.82) 3473.4694 2283 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3473.4694 before they aksed me. So I- so I think I went back there to her space as she was getting dinner out to ask her. I said, hey, 3481.9702 2284 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3481.9702 (pause 0.29) 3482.2651 2285 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3482.2651 I know not now, 3483.6164 2286 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3483.6164 (pause 0.31) 3483.9214 2287 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3483.9214 but I just wanna know, 3485.3251 2288 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3485.3251 (pause 0.38) 3485.7023 2289 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3485.7023 you know, 3486.2210 2290 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3486.2210 (pause 0.25) 3486.4697 2291 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3486.4697 whenever you're ready can you let me know 3488.4511 2292 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3488.4511 (pause 0.23) 3488.6850 2293 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3488.6850 when the vendors 3489.7213 2294 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3489.7213 (pause 0.23) 3489.9542 2295 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3489.9542 can go grab their food. 3491.2462 2296 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3491.2462 (pause 0.66) 3491.9056 2297 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3491.9056 She 3492.7387 2298 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3492.7387 (pause 0.67) 3493.4077 2299 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3493.4077 literally like 3494.7407 2300 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3494.7407 (pause 0.25) 3494.9867 2301 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3494.9867 threw 3495.6820 2302 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3495.6820 (pause 0.52) 3496.2067 2303 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3496.2067 a bitch fit, 3497.1841 2304 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3497.1841 (pause 0.23) 3497.4137 2305 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3497.4137 and was like, 3498.1811 2306 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3498.1811 (pause 0.43) 3498.6075 2307 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3498.6075 oh my god, 3499.4307 2308 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3499.4307 (pause 0.23) 3499.6636 2309 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3499.6636 if one more person aks me, 3501.3573 2310 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3501.3573 (pause 0.28) 3501.6361 2311 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3501.6361 I gotta feed 3502.4462 2312 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3502.4462 (pause 0.28) 3502.7282 2313 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3502.7282 my- my- my- my guests first, 3504.4993 2314 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3504.4993 (pause 0.22) 3504.7223 2315 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3504.7223 da da da. Like she just went off, like slamming trays and like flipping out. 3508.8233 2316 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3508.8233 (pause 1.79) 3510.6141 2317 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3510.6141 I'm like, 3511.0601 2318 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3511.0601 (pause 0.96) 3512.0159 2319 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3512.0159 okay. 3512.9309 2320 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3512.9309 (pause 0.27) 3513.2031 2321 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3513.2031 And I walked away. 3514.2071 2322 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3514.2071 (pause 1.24) 3515.4498 2323 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3515.4498 That 3515.8499 2324 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3515.8499 (pause 0.29) 3516.1385 2325 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3516.1385 was the craziest moment, cause I had never seen 3519.2589 2326 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3519.2589 (pause 1.08) 3520.3346 2327 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3520.3346 a grown adult business person 3522.3451 2328 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3522.3451 (pause 0.66) 3523.0011 2329 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3523.0011 throw 3523.5502 2330 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3523.5502 (pause 0.15) 3523.6978 2331 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3523.6978 a four year old tantrum 3525.3934 2332 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3525.3934 (pause 0.22) 3525.6164 2333 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3525.6164 in front of me 3526.4691 2334 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3526.4691 (pause 0.53) 3527.0037 2335 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3527.0037 at an event. 3527.8171 2336 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3527.8171 (pause 0.37) 3528.1910 2337 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3528.1910 That was the craziest thing. 3529.5261 2338 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3529.5261 (pause 0.38) 3529.9030 2339 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3529.9030 Hit her- 3530.5439 2340 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3530.5439 (pause 0.21) 3530.7505 2341 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3530.7505 She- she- she- um, she had the business with her husband, her husband had to pull her away and calm her down. 3535.5684 2342 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3535.5684 (pause 2.90) 3538.4658 2343 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3538.4658 Maybe you shouldn't be in this business, lady. 3540.5595 2344 DCB_int_01 3541.5239 [/inaudible/] 3541.7653 2345 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3541.5928 [Maybe] 3542.2947 2346 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3542.3865 [you can't handle] the [pressure.] 3543.7157 2347 DCB_int_01 3542.4062 [/inaudible/] 3542.8686 2348 DCB_int_01 3542.8686 (pause 0.52) 3543.3901 2349 DCB_int_01 3543.3901 [That's-] that's too much for her. 3544.4396 2350 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3544.6265 It's too much. 3545.5121 2351 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3545.5121 (pause 0.46) 3545.9745 2352 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3545.9745 That was the craziest thing. But I- I mean, caterers they f- I had one caterer, 3550.3248 2353 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3550.3248 (pause 0.36) 3550.6889 2354 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3550.6889 uh, at a reception 3551.7646 2355 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3551.7646 (pause 0.39) 3552.1516 2356 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3552.1516 gonna tell me, um, 3553.6308 2357 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3553.6308 (pause 0.37) 3554.0014 2358 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3554.0014 3554.3425 2359 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3554.3425 (pause 0.61) 3554.9539 2360 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3554.9539 when it's time to cut the cake 3556.3773 2361 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3556.3773 (pause 0.47) 3556.8430 2362 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3556.8430 that the bride didn't pay the cake cutting fee and he wasn't gonna cut the cake. 3560.2178 2363 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3560.2178 (pause 1.89) 3562.1116 2364 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3562.1116 Bruh, 3562.5019 2365 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3562.5019 (pause 0.75) 3563.2497 2366 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3563.2497 charge it out on the back end, 3564.6604 2367 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3564.6604 (pause 0.21) 3564.8731 2368 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3564.8731 cut the damn cake. 3565.8964 2369 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3565.8964 (pause 0.28) 3566.1799 2370 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3566.1799 We're here at the reception, it's time to cut the cake and serve it to the guests. 3569.0923 2371 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3569.0923 (pause 0.23) 3569.3251 2372 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3569.3251 Why you can't just charge her that on the back end and get your- Cause you- you b- Like, 3572.9801 2373 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3572.9801 (pause 0.18) 3573.1605 2374 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3573.1605 I can't cut the cake, I'm not food safety certified. 3576.0926 2375 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3576.0926 (pause 0.58) 3576.6764 2376 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3576.6764 I'm not about to touch nobody's food, 3578.5852 2377 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3578.5852 (pause 0.37) 3578.9506 2378 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3578.9506 it's not my job, 3580.0952 2379 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3580.0952 (pause 0.21) 3580.3084 2380 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3580.3084 I'm not getting paid for that. 3581.5252 2381 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3581.5252 (pause 0.64) 3582.1680 2382 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3582.1680 It is literally your job to cut the cake, 3584.1244 2383 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3584.1244 (pause 0.23) 3584.3537 2384 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3584.3537 cause you're the caterer. 3585.3114 2385 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3585.3114 (pause 0.12) 3585.4294 2386 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3585.4294 You handle food. 3586.4670 2387 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3586.4670 (pause 0.44) 3586.9119 2388 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3586.9119 Why would you not just cut the cake? 3588.8928 2389 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3588.8928 (pause 0.62) 3589.5094 2390 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3589.5094 No, that was another time. 3590.5187 2391 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3590.5187 (pause 0.16) 3590.6784 2392 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3590.6784 Like, 3590.8981 2393 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3590.8981 (pause 0.31) 3591.2031 2394 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3591.2031 caterers are like, crazy. 3592.7446 2395 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3592.7446 (pause 0.69) 3593.4301 2396 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3593.4301 They usually have staff, 3594.9574 2397 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3594.9574 (pause 0.42) 3595.3815 2398 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3595.3815 that are 3596.5068 2399 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3596.5068 (pause 0.93) 3597.4327 2400 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3597.4327 3597.4885 2401 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3597.4885 (pause 0.32) 3597.8066 2402 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3597.8066 constantly revolving. 3598.9546 2403 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3598.9546 (pause 0.32) 3599.2759 2404 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3599.2759 because it's like a on-call thing. As you get events you- a caterer never knows, they can get booked today for something, 3605.7154 2405 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3605.7154 (pause 0.13) 3605.8466 2406 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3605.8466 you know, two months out. I don't- they don't know. 3607.7546 2407 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3607.7546 (pause 0.39) 3608.1457 2408 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3608.1457 And then they don't know how much staff they need until they figure out how many, you know, 3611.8499 2409 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3611.8499 (pause 0.12) 3611.9679 2410 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3611.9679 entrees or whatever the client is gonna need. 3614.0453 2411 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3614.0453 (pause 0.37) 3614.4127 2412 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3614.4127 So it's a- it's a revolving door. They usually have 3617.2431 2413 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3617.2431 (pause 0.28) 3617.5219 2414 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3617.5219 staff that don't know what they're doing, 3619.1587 2415 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3619.1587 (pause 0.75) 3619.9095 2416 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3619.9095 or, um, you know, the- the- 3623.1644 2417 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3623.1644 (pause 0.25) 3623.4170 2418 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3623.4170 the actual person who's in charge 3626.1162 2419 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3626.1162 (pause 0.55) 3626.6653 2420 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3626.6653 is in charge of too much. Like, the way catering is tiered is like, you got your chef, 3631.5586 2421 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3631.5586 (pause 0.43) 3631.9915 2422 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3631.9915 and like his assistant, and there's usually like a banquet manager that oversees, 3636.7157 2423 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3636.7157 (pause 0.39) 3637.1060 2424 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3637.1060 um, everything. But there should be some s- other people underneath the chef and other people underneath the banquet manager. Like it should be 3644.1208 2425 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3644.1208 (pause 0.34) 3644.4652 2426 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3644.4652 teams of people. And I only know this cause I worked for a catering company before, and we had at least like, 3649.2044 2427 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3649.2044 (pause 0.25) 3649.4504 2428 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3649.4504 two to three teams of people 3650.7997 2429 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3650.7997 (pause 0.37) 3651.1736 2430 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3651.1736 that would come in and do events. We had people in the kitchen that was setting plates, 3654.7288 2431 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3654.7288 (pause 0.29) 3655.0142 2432 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3655.0142 we had people out on the floor that was doing the- you know, the place settings and everything like that, 3659.1021 2433 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3659.1021 (pause 0.29) 3659.3940 2434 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3659.3940 and then we had people that was just moving big heavy stuff. 3661.9162 2435 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3661.9162 (pause 0.32) 3662.2356 2436 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3662.2356 Cause that's what they was good at doing, setting up, you know, all the big stuff that we d- You know, so we had teams 3667.5422 2437 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3667.5422 (pause 0.38) 3667.9259 2438 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3667.9259 and it was always like a- a- a smooth flowing process. And we even had a person 3672.2664 2439 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3672.2664 (pause 0.34) 3672.6108 2440 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3672.6108 that was over all the teams 3674.4441 2441 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3674.4441 (pause 0.36) 3674.8030 2442 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3674.8030 that made sure each team was [doing what they were supposed to doing.] It's like, 3678.0204 2443 DCB_int_01 3676.4429 [Doing what they're supposed to do.] 3677.5201 2444 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3678.3714 you're supposed to manage a catering 3680.1654 2445 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3680.1654 (pause 0.39) 3680.5603 2446 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3680.5603 company that way. And so when caterers come in, 3683.0791 2447 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3683.0791 (pause 0.35) 3683.4268 2448 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3683.4268 and it's just like, one person, one chef, and like, 3685.9194 2449 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3685.9194 (pause 0.18) 3686.0946 2450 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3686.0946 three people, 3686.8066 2451 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3686.8066 (pause 0.59) 3687.3934 2452 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3687.3934 like, 3687.6590 2453 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3687.6590 (pause 0.76) 3688.4166 2454 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3688.4166 you- this all you got? 3689.4766 2455 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3689.4766 (pause 0.56) 3690.0368 2456 DCB_se2_ag3_f_02 3690.0368 Okay. 3690.3941