Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.3518 And what's your birthday Miss /RD-NAME-1/? 2.0398 2 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2.0910 March twenty third, nineteen fifty. 4.0914 3 DCB_int_01 6.0592 Perfect. 6.6438 4 DCB_int_01 6.6438 (pause 1.16) 7.8019 5 DCB_int_01 7.8019 Pisces. 8.4268 6 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 9.2474 Aries. 9.7114 7 DCB_int_01 9.7137 Aries. [You-] 10.3712 8 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 10.1194 [Mm.] 10.3386 9 DCB_int_01 10.6556 [/After-/ The day-] Mm. [You the day-] Uh-huh. 12.9120 10 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 10.6603 [On the cusp.] 11.2817 11 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 11.2817 (pause 0.53) 11.8167 12 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 11.8167 [Mm.] 12.3763 13 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 13.2424 [] 13.7693 14 DCB_int_01 13.4336 [And] um, where were you born? 15.3296 15 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 15.7417 Winston Salem, North Carolina. 17.5086 16 DCB_int_01 19.1118 When did you move to DC? 20.1318 17 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 20.6050 20.7425 18 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 20.7425 (pause 0.19) 20.9350 19 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 20.9350 In nineteen fifty f- six- fifty five. 24.9405 20 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 24.9405 (pause 0.49) 25.4289 21 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 25.4289 Fifty five, yes, cause I was five. 27.4946 22 DCB_int_01 30.1711 And what neighborhood 31.1804 23 DCB_int_01 31.1804 (pause 0.19) 31.3683 24 DCB_int_01 31.3683 do you call home? 32.1963 25 DCB_int_01 32.1963 (pause 1.33) 33.5272 26 DCB_int_01 33.5272 Like as your childhood home, as you were growing up. 35.6722 27 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 36.5488 Lincoln Park. 37.5500 28 DCB_int_01 37.5595 Lincoln Park. [Where is Lincoln] Park? 39.0563 29 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 38.3055 [Mm-hm.] 38.8882 30 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 39.2474 It's in um, Northeast, 40.7302 31 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 40.7302 (pause 0.26) 40.9867 32 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 40.9867 on the Northeast side of Lincoln Park. 42.7213 33 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 42.7213 (pause 1.23) 43.9465 34 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 43.9465 That's my- 44.5340 35 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 44.5340 (pause 0.45) 44.9817 36 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 44.9817 the longest time, but we moved around a lot, and we were there the longest. 48.3389 37 DCB_int_01 48.5534 In the [Lincoln Park-] Okay. 49.5548 38 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 48.8554 [Mm-hm.] 49.3474 39 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 49.6201 Mm-hm. 50.0211 40 DCB_int_01 50.1470 And then um, 51.6018 41 DCB_int_01 51.6018 (pause 0.83) 52.4318 42 DCB_int_01 52.4318 52.5297 43 DCB_int_01 52.5297 (pause 0.07) 52.5997 44 DCB_int_01 52.5997 you've been here since you moved here- Since you were five, you- 54.7306 45 DCB_int_01 54.7306 (pause 0.19) 54.9171 46 DCB_int_01 54.9171 you've always lived here since then? 56.1703 47 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 56.1796 Yes. 56.6273 48 DCB_int_01 56.6739 Okay. 57.0469 49 DCB_int_01 57.0469 (pause 0.16) 57.2101 50 DCB_int_01 57.2101 And have you lived in any other place, um- 60.0312 51 DCB_int_01 60.0312 (pause 0.61) 60.6374 52 DCB_int_01 60.6374 What other neighbor- or what other neighborhoods have you lived in? 62.9257 53 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 63.3780 Um, 63.8256 54 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 63.8256 (pause 0.41) 64.2360 55 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 64.2360 you mean within DC? 65.5090 56 DCB_int_01 65.6302 Yes, ma'am. 66.0825 57 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 66.1105 66.1757 58 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 66.1757 (pause 0.41) 66.5907 59 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 66.5907 I've lived in every 67.6714 60 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 67.6714 (pause 0.23) 67.9045 61 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 67.9045 section of city, 68.9630 62 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 68.9630 (pause 0.14) 69.1076 63 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 69.1076 every- 69.4480 64 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 69.4480 (pause 0.09) 69.5412 65 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 69.5412 Northeast, Southeast, Southwest, Northwest, 72.2830 66 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 72.2830 (pause 0.58) 72.8659 67 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 72.8659 and um- 73.6201 68 DCB_int_01 73.6248 That's gonna be great. I wanna hear s- I'm gonna ask you some questions about [that.] 76.4691 69 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 76.2220 [Okay.] 76.7722 70 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 76.8841 Um- uh- after- Especially after my father passed in nineteen sixty, 80.7159 71 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 80.7159 (pause 0.54) 81.2521 72 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 81.2521 and we moved quite a bit. Um, 83.1406 73 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 83.1406 (pause 1.21) 84.3483 74 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 84.3483 then um, 85.4149 75 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 85.4149 (pause 1.87) 87.2801 76 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 87.2801 I lived in Northwest with my mom and it was- 89.4530 77 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 89.4530 (pause 0.14) 89.5882 78 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 89.5882 and my stepdad, and then after I graduated, 91.8299 79 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 91.8299 (pause 1.13) 92.9583 80 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 92.9583 then I moved to Maryland. 94.0970 81 DCB_int_01 94.2873 What school did you go to? 95.2572 82 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 95.6722 I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High [School, in] uh, s- nineteen sixty eight. 99.4421 83 DCB_int_01 97.3403 [Mm-hm.] 97.9931 84 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 100.9960 Then I did two years at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ University, 103.5500 85 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 103.5500 (pause 1.37) 104.9164 86 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 104.9164 and 105.4946 87 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 105.4946 (pause 0.60) 106.0961 88 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 106.0961 that's it. 106.3852 89 DCB_int_01 107.8027 What'd you study while you were at /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 108.9964 90 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 109.2098 109.3450 91 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 109.3450 (pause 0.14) 109.4895 92 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 109.4895 I was a Voice major. 110.5900 93 DCB_int_01 110.9304 A Voice ma- 111.5117 94 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 111.5692 [Mm-hm. ] Yup. 113.5882 95 DCB_int_01 111.8723 [Oh.] 113.1313 96 DCB_int_01 115.3030 So you still sing? 116.1190 97 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 116.7439 I ha- I can't now. I've had surgery that 118.9634 98 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 118.9634 (pause 0.22) 119.1825 99 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 119.1825 t- messed up my voice, so I'm not able to sing now, but 121.8532 100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 121.8532 (pause 0.91) 122.7672 101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 122.7672 I did some singing back in my day. [ Yes, yes.] 127.0850 102 DCB_int_01 125.0287 [Really? Okay.] 126.7586 103 DCB_int_01 127.1678 So now I know you're retired, but what did you do 129.3780 104 DCB_int_01 129.3780 (pause 0.58) 129.9609 105 DCB_int_01 129.9609 before you were retired? 131.1033 106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 131.0706 131.2012 107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 131.6022 I was administrative assistant in um, DC public schools, 134.9073 108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 134.9073 (pause 1.70) 136.6090 109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 136.6090 so. 137.0193 110 DCB_int_01 141.5459 And what about your parents? What- where was your father born? 144.6139 111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 144.6001 144.7400 112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 145.0279 He was born in Pensacola, Florida. 146.9537 113 DCB_int_01 147.0096 Oh, I know [Pensacola.] 148.7069 114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 148.1987 [Mm-hm.] 148.8468 115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 149.0007 Mm-hm. 149.5136 116 DCB_int_01 150.4509 And what about [Mom?] 151.3242 117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 151.0792 [And] Mom was in the- 152.2076 118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 152.3895 from Waycross, Georgia. 153.7137 119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 153.7137 (pause 0.81) 154.5251 120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 154.5251 155.1499 121 DCB_int_01 155.2945 You are Southern- You know both of tho- Well [Pensacola is a little] far, but [Waycross is about] 159.6460 122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 157.5502 [] 158.2496 123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 158.2496 (pause 0.57) 158.8231 124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 158.8231 [Uh.] 159.5878 125 DCB_int_01 160.0728 an hour from my house. 161.4716 126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 161.5696 [Really?] 162.3110 127 DCB_int_01 161.5836 [/And-/] 161.7421 128 DCB_int_01 161.7421 (pause 0.20) 161.9379 129 DCB_int_01 161.9379 [I'm- I'm] from Valdosta. 163.1212 130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 163.5781 Okay. 164.1750 131 DCB_int_01 164.4734 [Mm. So I know Waycross.] 166.2826 132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 164.4781 [Oh, well that's good. ] 166.6510 133 DCB_int_01 166.4645 [We go] that way when we're going up um- 168.6700 134 DCB_int_01 169.1352 Actually when I'm driving here, [I go over] 171.0376 135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 170.3662 [Mm-hm.] 170.8278 136 DCB_int_01 171.4106 past Waycross to get up to ninety five. 173.4064 137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 173.5229 [Okay.] 174.1944 138 DCB_int_01 173.9892 [Mm-hm.] 174.4928 139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 174.4648 Okay. 175.0664 140 DCB_int_01 175.0524 And we used to [play them] a lot at ba- in football, and 177.6977 141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 175.3357 [That's r-] 175.7693 142 DCB_int_01 177.8956 [they're one of our] big rivals. [Um,] 180.0778 143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 177.9003 [Mm-hm.] 178.4785 144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 178.4785 (pause 0.86) 179.3364 145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 179.3364 [Mm-hm.] 179.7404 146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 180.1058 Mm-hm. 180.6141 147 DCB_int_01 180.6141 cause they were a pretty big 181.5500 148 DCB_int_01 181.5500 (pause 0.25) 181.7973 149 DCB_int_01 181.7973 football program. 182.7625 150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 182.9117 Okay. 183.3454 151 DCB_int_01 183.3454 What'd your dad do? 184.0734 152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 184.5297 He was a preacher. 185.3318 153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 185.3318 (pause 0.26) 185.5929 154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 185.5929 [] 186.0638 155 DCB_int_01 185.5975 [Oh!] 185.8975 156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 186.6980 Yup. 187.1818 157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 187.1818 (pause 0.30) 187.4849 158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 187.4849 His- his work though was he was a- uh, in the cleaning business. 190.9587 159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 190.9587 (pause 0.73) 191.6908 160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 191.6908 /Mm-hm./ 192.1897 161 DCB_int_01 192.7819 And what about Mommy? 193.8795 162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 194.1377 She was a house m- 195.8536 163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 195.8536 (pause 0.23) 196.0821 164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 196.0821 mother at- a stayed at home mother. 197.9286 165 DCB_int_01 202.3059 So, 202.6463 166 DCB_int_01 202.6463 (pause 0.56) 203.2059 167 DCB_int_01 203.2059 let's talk about when you moved to DC. What prompted you guys to move here? 207.0842 168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 208.4691 Well, I think it was just for 210.4089 169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 210.4089 (pause 0.32) 210.7295 170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 210.7295 um, 211.1876 171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 211.1876 (pause 1.17) 212.3615 172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 212.3615 to try to do better. 213.3174 173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 213.3174 (pause 0.23) 213.5459 174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 213.5459 It- 213.7883 175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 213.7883 (pause 0.09) 213.8816 176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 213.8816 have a better life, 214.9354 177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 214.9354 (pause 0.46) 215.3970 178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 215.3970 you know? 215.7887 179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 215.7887 (pause 0.51) 216.2970 180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 216.2970 Um, 216.6141 181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 216.6141 (pause 0.32) 216.9346 182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 216.9346 he w- Like I said, he was a 217.9605 183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 217.9605 (pause 0.20) 218.1563 184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 218.1563 minister that did a lot of traveling and preaching. 220.3945 185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 220.3945 (pause 0.31) 220.7023 186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 220.7023 Like Evangelistic 221.6162 187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 221.6162 (pause 0.26) 221.8773 188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 221.8773 minister. 222.3529 189 DCB_int_01 222.5907 Gotcha. 222.9160 190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 222.9393 And so he did a lot of preaching and so- 225.1960 191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 225.1960 (pause 0.90) 226.1008 192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 226.1008 I think my mom got tired of him being gone so much, so [we kind of- Yeah.] 229.6804 193 DCB_int_01 228.8239 [She said, we're gonna] go too. 229.9838 194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 230.1097 Yeah. 230.4548 195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 230.4548 (pause 0.72) 231.1728 196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 231.1728 And so we came here and um, 233.3271 197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 233.3271 (pause 0.46) 233.7887 198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 233.7887 lived with my aunt and uncle. 235.2715 199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 235.2715 (pause 0.70) 235.9698 200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 235.9698 Well he was a preacher too, 237.1076 201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 237.1076 (pause 0.14) 237.2428 202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 237.2428 so 238.3432 203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 238.3432 (pause 0.53) 238.8748 204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 238.8748 we all lived in- in Northwest DC, up off of Georgia Avenue. 242.7320 205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 242.7320 (pause 0.74) 243.4713 206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 243.4713 And uh, 244.0541 207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 244.0541 (pause 0.48) 244.5391 208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 244.5391 was my sister, 245.4437 209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 245.4437 (pause 0.66) 246.1011 210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 246.1011 /RD-NAME-2/, my younger- 247.1398 211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 247.1398 (pause 0.11) 247.2517 212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 247.2517 my younger brother, 248.3195 213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 248.3195 (pause 0.38) 248.7019 214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 248.7019 /RD-NAME-2/, 249.2941 215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 249.2941 (pause 0.98) 250.2733 216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 250.2733 and my mother and father, 251.8167 217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 251.8167 (pause 0.09) 251.9096 218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 251.9096 so. 252.2492 219 DCB_int_01 252.5628 And you all lived in one [house?] 253.8019 220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 253.5921 [In one] house. 254.2822 221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 254.4221 Mm-hm. All- 254.8091 222 DCB_int_01 254.7858 Did it feel cramped? Or did you feel like you had- 257.0054 223 DCB_int_01 257.1546 You didn't even realize it? 258.1944 224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 258.5010 I didn't realize it, no, cause 260.0724 225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 260.0724 (pause 0.69) 260.7578 226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 260.7578 uh, it was a good size house. It was on Crittenden Street in Northwest. 264.2410 227 DCB_int_01 264.1105 Mm-hm. 264.6514 228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 264.7586 And um, 265.3357 229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 265.3357 (pause 0.57) 265.9045 230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 265.9045 uh- 266.1517 231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 266.1517 (pause 1.30) 267.4526 232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 267.4526 I don't even remember what room I was in, but I do remember that 270.2037 233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 270.2037 (pause 0.40) 270.6047 234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 270.6047 there was a big 271.2529 235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 271.2529 (pause 0.29) 271.5408 236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 271.5408 living uh, room. 272.6832 237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 272.6832 (pause 0.62) 273.3003 238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 273.3003 It kind of had it like the french doors between that and the dining area, 276.7633 239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 276.7633 (pause 0.47) 277.2377 240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 277.2377 and so it was always 278.5527 241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 278.5527 (pause 0.12) 278.6692 242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 278.6692 open and 279.3687 243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 279.3687 (pause 0.55) 279.9142 244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 279.9142 airy and 280.6044 245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 280.6044 (pause 0.45) 281.0567 246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 281.0567 f- f- 281.3131 247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 281.3131 (pause 0.19) 281.5043 248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 281.5043 It was fun. 282.0872 249 DCB_int_01 283.1538 Do you remember 283.9791 250 DCB_int_01 283.9791 (pause 0.09) 284.0724 251 DCB_int_01 284.0724 the neighborhood? Do you feel like you had- Like, 286.1294 252 DCB_int_01 286.1294 (pause 0.17) 286.3013 253 DCB_int_01 286.3013 you know, neighbors back then are not the kind- 288.1245 254 DCB_int_01 288.1245 (pause 0.25) 288.3716 255 DCB_int_01 288.3716 like 288.5581 256 DCB_int_01 288.5581 (pause 0.13) 288.6887 257 DCB_int_01 288.6887 [how we /talk/] about [neighbors today.] Do you remember your neighbors, the other people on your street? Maybe the other kids on your street? 293.8074 258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 288.7062 [That's true.] 289.2890 259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 289.2890 (pause 0.28) 289.5641 260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 289.5641 [That is true.] 290.3055 261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 294.8087 I don't remember the children that much. 296.9837 262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 296.9837 (pause 0.11) 297.0889 263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 297.0889 Um, 297.5132 264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 297.5132 (pause 0.94) 298.4505 265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 298.4505 I just remember my brother and I and my um- 301.3928 266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 301.3928 (pause 0.93) 302.3195 267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 302.3195 my cous- my uh, nephew- 304.0821 268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.0821 (pause 0.10) 304.1847 269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.1847 my 304.4645 270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.4645 (pause 0.14) 304.6044 271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.6044 s- 304.7302 272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.7302 (pause 0.10) 304.8328 273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.8328 What is it? My ch- 305.4856 274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 305.4856 (pause 0.54) 306.0265 275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 306.0265 sister's children. 307.3310 276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 307.3310 (pause 0.19) 307.5175 277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 307.5175 That'd be my cousins. 308.8415 278 DCB_int_01 308.9956 [Your sister's] ch- 309.7744 279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 309.1962 [My- huh?] 309.6671 280 DCB_int_01 309.9189 That would [be your niece] and nephew. 310.8768 281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 310.0635 [Yeah, w-] 310.5670 282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 310.5670 (pause 0.22) 310.7909 283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 310.7909 Nieces and m- Yeah. There you [go. I was] tryna find that word. 312.9545 284 DCB_int_01 311.8960 [Mm-hm.] 312.1991 285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 313.5735 Yeah, they would come over, and uh, we were all kind of close in age, so 317.5649 286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 317.5649 (pause 0.33) 317.8913 287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 317.8913 I remember playing with them. I don't remember 319.6574 288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 319.6574 (pause 0.21) 319.8719 289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 319.8719 kids in the neighborhood. 320.7812 290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 320.7812 (pause 0.58) 321.3594 291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 321.3594 But I do remember that w- the- the houses were um, 323.8913 292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 323.8913 (pause 0.39) 324.2783 293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 324.2783 like, 324.4602 294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 324.4602 (pause 0.10) 324.5581 295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 324.5581 connected. You could 325.4394 296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 325.4394 (pause 0.18) 325.6154 297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 325.6154 stand on your porch and see down to other porches. 328.3665 298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 328.3665 (pause 0.19) 328.5531 299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 328.5531 That kind of neighborhood, 329.5323 300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 329.5323 (pause 0.39) 329.9193 301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 329.9193 houses. 330.4882 302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 330.4882 (pause 0.48) 330.9684 303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 330.9684 And uh, 331.6201 304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 331.6201 (pause 1.68) 333.2987 305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 333.2987 I don't remember much else about that. 334.9261 306 DCB_int_01 335.1359 Did you- 335.4530 307 DCB_int_01 335.4530 (pause 0.23) 335.6861 308 DCB_int_01 335.6861 Do you- 336.1198 309 DCB_int_01 336.1198 (pause 0.10) 336.2224 310 DCB_int_01 336.2224 Have you ever- Have you s- passed by there? Is that house still there? Have they [torn it] [down?] 340.0961 311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 339.1635 [Mm-hm.] 339.5972 312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 339.5972 (pause 0.22) 339.8210 313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 339.8210 [It's still] there. 340.4971 314 DCB_int_01 340.7069 It's still [there. Do people] still live in it or is it condemned now? Or /it's [livable]/- 344.3662 315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 341.1079 [Mm.] 341.6488 316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 341.6488 (pause 2.24) 343.8859 317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 343.8859 [No, it's-] it's a very vibrant neighborhood. It's up in the Petworth neighborhood. 347.8120 318 DCB_int_01 347.9846 Mm-hm. 348.3446 319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 348.4322 And uh, 349.0990 320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 349.0990 (pause 0.99) 350.0910 321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 350.0910 it was considered 350.9644 322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 350.9644 (pause 0.12) 351.0889 323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 351.0889 k- s- then was kind of like a 352.3479 324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 352.3479 (pause 0.14) 352.4878 325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 352.4878 good area. 353.1639 326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 353.1639 (pause 0.14) 353.3084 327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 353.3084 You [know, cause it's kind of] going /toward up/ in Northwest. 356.0398 328 DCB_int_01 353.8680 [Right, and now-] 354.5600 329 DCB_int_01 356.3242 [Mm-hm.] 356.7255 330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 356.5620 [So] that was considered a decent area 358.7536 331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 358.8515 to live [in.] 359.3504 332 DCB_int_01 359.1592 [And] now /if you have/ that area, that's- 360.8845 333 DCB_int_01 361.0839 uh- 361.4056 334 DCB_int_01 361.4056 (pause 0.18) 361.5828 335 DCB_int_01 361.5828 right up- 361.8393 336 DCB_int_01 361.8393 (pause 0.26) 362.1004 337 DCB_int_01 362.1004 So Columbia Heights, 363.3687 338 DCB_int_01 363.3687 (pause 0.21) 363.5785 339 DCB_int_01 363.5785 [um, Brightwood], 364.6743 340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 363.5832 [Mm-hm, a little further] up. [Yup.] 365.3784 341 DCB_int_01 364.9587 [Petworth-] 365.4810 342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 365.5463 Mm-hm. 366.1058 343 DCB_int_01 366.1571 Um, [so they] now 367.7786 344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 366.7388 [Mm-hm.] 367.1445 345 DCB_int_01 368.4128 um- 368.7159 346 DCB_int_01 368.7159 (pause 0.79) 369.5039 347 DCB_int_01 369.5039 Gentrification has reached 370.8701 348 DCB_int_01 370.8701 (pause 0.11) 370.9774 349 DCB_int_01 370.9774 that area. 371.6115 350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 371.6990 [Okay.] 372.2597 351 DCB_int_01 371.9939 [Like] Georgia Avenue, you know, you can drive up Georgia and you see 375.0283 352 DCB_int_01 375.2101 big Safeway with the [condos and the-] 377.9146 353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 376.4225 [Oh yes. Oh-] 377.7607 354 DCB_int_01 378.1338 [Especially] where the Metro [is.] 379.5500 355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 378.1664 [I have-] 378.4882 356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 378.4882 (pause 0.85) 379.3403 357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 379.3403 [Mm-hm.] 379.8532 358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 380.0817 I haven't uh- Last time I went through there, 382.1800 359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 382.1800 (pause 0.31) 382.4878 360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 382.4878 the Metro was there. 383.4670 361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 383.4670 (pause 0.79) 384.2597 362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 384.2597 And uh, it's- it's really changed from when I lived in that area. 387.6671 363 DCB_int_01 388.0122 So where did you go next? 389.7234 364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 389.7468 Okay, next we went to um, 391.4207 365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 391.4207 (pause 0.62) 392.0444 366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 392.0444 Perry Place 393.0003 367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 393.0003 (pause 0.19) 393.1868 368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 393.1868 off of Fourteenth Street, 394.5857 369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 394.5857 (pause 0.64) 395.2292 370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 395.2292 which was like, 396.1664 371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 396.1664 (pause 1.23) 397.3916 372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 397.3916 in that- You know, that- Going up that way it was like, 399.5365 373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 399.5365 (pause 0.26) 399.7930 374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 399.7930 alphabets, that's how I [remember] the area. So, 401.8480 375 DCB_int_01 400.7396 [Mm-hm.] 401.0380 376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 402.3343 Perry Place was in the alphabet s- s- alphabet before Crittenden, 405.6951 377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 405.6951 (pause 0.12) 405.8163 378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 405.8163 so we're d- we're down a little further into- toward town. 408.4928 379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 408.4928 (pause 0.80) 409.2890 380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 409.2890 And um, 409.9139 381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 409.9139 (pause 1.11) 411.0190 382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 411.0190 we lived in the house of this old preacher. 413.4530 383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 413.4530 (pause 0.52) 413.9706 384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 413.9706 He was old, 414.7248 385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 414.7248 (pause 0.56) 415.2844 386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 415.2844 creepy kind of person (laughing). 416.5573 387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 416.5573 (pause 0.51) 417.0703 388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 417.0703 And he- (laughing) 417.7277 389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 417.7277 (pause 0.39) 418.1147 390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 418.1147 His name was Reverend Flood. I'll never forget it. 420.3891 391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 420.3891 (pause 0.34) 420.7248 392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 420.7248 And uh, we- we lived there 422.4221 393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 422.4221 (pause 1.11) 423.5272 394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 423.5272 upstairs. 424.8095 395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 424.8095 (pause 0.29) 425.1033 396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 425.1033 Um, 425.6302 397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 425.6302 (pause 0.12) 425.7514 398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 425.7514 it was enough room so my mother, my father, my 428.0025 399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 428.0025 (pause 0.09) 428.0966 400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 428.0966 sister and my s- younger brother. 429.7464 401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 429.7464 (pause 0.64) 430.3899 402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 430.3899 Well that's where 431.4903 403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 431.4903 (pause 0.33) 431.8214 404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 431.8214 our younger brother passed away. He was five 434.1190 405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 434.1190 (pause 0.10) 434.2169 406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 434.2169 at the time. 434.9071 407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 434.9071 (pause 1.69) 436.5950 408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 436.5950 Which I still don't, to this day- don't know what he died of. 439.4895 409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 439.4895 (pause 0.21) 439.6947 410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 439.6947 He just died as far as I always knew. He just died. 442.6603 411 DCB_int_01 442.7256 Hm. 443.0380 412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 443.6349 And 444.1431 413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 444.1431 (pause 0.22) 444.3669 414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 444.3669 took a toll on my dad. He was not 446.1190 415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 446.1190 (pause 0.58) 446.7019 416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 446.7019 /good after that/. 447.3454 417 DCB_int_01 448.4645 And so did- 449.0800 418 DCB_int_01 449.0800 (pause 0.19) 449.2665 419 DCB_int_01 449.2665 did you guys- 449.8447 420 DCB_int_01 449.8447 (pause 0.10) 449.9426 421 DCB_int_01 449.9426 Did your parents have any more kids? Or after- after your brother died, it was just you and your sister at that point. 454.1940 422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 454.1987 Right. Everybody else was grown. There were other children and ther- there was seven of us all total. 458.6879 423 DCB_int_01 459.0749 [Oh, okay.] 459.8769 424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 459.1635 [But we were the youngest], the- 460.5064 425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 460.6696 the three [of us were the youngest.] 462.2550 426 DCB_int_01 460.9914 [Gotcha, okay. So those were the-] 462.1711 427 DCB_int_01 462.6514 the three of you [guys grew up together and] then there was a older [bunch.] 465.2101 428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 463.3730 [Mm-hm.] 464.0444 429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 464.0444 (pause 1.01) 465.0516 430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 465.0516 [Right.] [Exactly.] Mm-hm. 467.0147 431 DCB_int_01 465.7137 [Gotcha. Okay.] 466.3945 432 DCB_int_01 467.0520 Oh, so that's why your sister's kids who were around your [age, that they were] older. I [see what you're saying.] 470.9071 433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 469.0279 [Mm-hm.] 469.7553 434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 469.7553 (pause 0.69) 470.4501 435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 470.4501 [Right.] 470.8371 436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 471.1449 [Mm-hm.] 471.7930 437 DCB_int_01 471.1589 [Okay.] 471.5599 438 DCB_int_01 471.8443 And so, 472.1660 439 DCB_int_01 472.1660 (pause 0.10) 472.2686 440 DCB_int_01 472.2686 then that's when you lived over in- and you had the preacher. 474.6327 441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 475.0477 [Mm-hm.] 475.5500 442 DCB_int_01 475.1864 [Now], 475.5641 443 DCB_int_01 475.7180 at that point, were you really big into- was your family big into church still? Cause your dad was still a preacher, [so] 480.5208 444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 480.3063 [Mm-hm.] 480.7586 445 DCB_int_01 480.7679 is that how he met this man? 482.2589 446 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 482.5807 I- I'm not sure how, but [I'm- I'm] assuming so. 485.4204 447 DCB_int_01 483.9982 [Okay.] 484.3992 448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 485.5556 [Mm-hm.] 486.0592 449 DCB_int_01 485.5556 [Mm-hm.] 486.0592 450 DCB_int_01 486.1653 Now, did you- where did your dad 487.3403 451 DCB_int_01 487.3403 (pause 0.20) 487.5408 452 DCB_int_01 487.5408 pastor? 487.9931 453 DCB_int_01 487.9931 (pause 0.13) 488.1237 454 DCB_int_01 488.1237 Did he [pastor or he was a minister?] 489.6018 455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 488.3801 [Did he- No, he never pa-] Yeah, just a minister, and he would go to different- different churches, 492.3296 456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 493.0477 um, and p- speak and preach and 495.5086 457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 495.5086 (pause 0.33) 495.8396 458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 495.8396 t- teach. I mean, he- he was- 497.3504 459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 497.3504 (pause 0.60) 497.9473 460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 497.9473 My dad only went to third grade, 499.7347 461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 499.7347 (pause 0.91) 500.6413 462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 500.6413 and- 501.2101 463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 501.2101 (pause 0.14) 501.3454 464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 501.3454 but he was 502.1241 465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 502.1241 (pause 0.16) 502.2886 466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 502.2886 so smart, so intelligent. 504.3669 467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 504.3669 (pause 0.40) 504.7668 468 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 504.7668 I mean, he had- 505.5222 469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 505.5222 (pause 0.17) 505.6900 470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 505.6900 Universities wanted him to come and 507.5692 471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 507.5692 (pause 0.22) 507.7930 472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 507.7930 teach classes. 508.6743 473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 508.6743 (pause 0.41) 509.0846 474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 509.0846 Cause he never- He was just anointed. 510.7015 475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 510.7015 (pause 0.16) 510.8647 476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 510.8647 He was anointed 511.8620 477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 511.8620 (pause 0.30) 512.1610 478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 512.1610 preacher, 512.5340 479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 512.5340 (pause 0.36) 512.8977 480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 512.8977 and he could 513.3594 481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 513.3594 (pause 0.40) 513.7604 482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 513.7604 give that Word like nobody. 515.1732 483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 515.1732 (pause 0.19) 515.3597 484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 515.3597 [] 516.1058 485 DCB_int_01 515.7701 [Do you remember] a specific sermon 518.0304 486 DCB_int_01 518.1796 or a specific talk that you saw that just really touched you from him? Like, 521.9193 487 DCB_int_01 521.9193 (pause 0.34) 522.2597 488 DCB_int_01 522.2597 I know probably a lot. You saw him [speak a lot, but is there that one time you] remember like, 525.7930 489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 523.5688 [Mm, mm-hm.] 525.2008 490 DCB_int_01 525.9655 man, that's my daddy. 527.1218 491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 530.5433 530.6413 492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 530.6413 (pause 0.10) 530.7392 493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 530.7392 I don't think I remember 532.3526 494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 532.3526 (pause 0.50) 532.8561 495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 532.8561 what it was he talked about, 534.2317 496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 534.2317 (pause 0.55) 534.7773 497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 534.7773 I just r- 535.2855 498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 535.2855 (pause 0.14) 535.4243 499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 535.4243 I can see him right now. I remember one time that 538.2966 500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 538.2966 (pause 0.60) 538.8981 501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 538.8981 the Spirit hit him, and he just walked 540.9545 502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 540.9545 (pause 0.13) 541.0885 503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 541.0885 kind of walked the pews, as they used to say. 543.3687 504 DCB_int_01 543.5459 Mm-hm. 543.9282 505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 543.9189 You know, I remember- I can see him coming down out of the pulpit, 547.0978 506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 547.3217 and going- 548.1703 507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 548.1703 (pause 0.61) 548.7765 508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 548.7765 I mean he could pre- 549.6898 509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 549.6898 (pause 0.14) 549.8303 510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 549.8303 Oh he could just like, fire and just 551.9489 511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 551.9489 (pause 0.65) 552.5954 512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 552.5954 work everybody up. You know, he was just that kind of peo- I can see that. 555.8396 513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 555.8396 (pause 0.58) 556.4178 514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 556.4178 I c- I don't remember exactly what it was he talked about, but I remember- I can see him 560.5993 515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 560.5993 (pause 0.41) 561.0096 516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 561.0096 in the- 561.3174 517 DCB_int_01 561.5738 Coming out the [pulpit] 562.7769 518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 562.1474 [Mm-hm.] 562.6463 519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 562.7909 Mm-hm. 563.2851 520 DCB_int_01 563.4763 and really connecting with [the congregation.] 565.5500 521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 564.6607 [Mm-hm.] 565.1643 522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 565.1643 (pause 0.24) 565.4056 523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 565.4056 That's right. 565.9651 524 DCB_int_01 566.2822 Do you feel like you see that in preachers today? Or do you kind of miss that old timey- 571.1410 525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 571.9698 [I have seen it.] 572.8977 526 DCB_int_01 571.9745 [Has it changed?] 573.0003 527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 573.2941 I have seen it. Um, 574.6417 528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 574.6417 (pause 1.43) 576.0732 529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 576.0732 I've seen it in my son on occasion. 577.9418 530 DCB_int_01 579.7324 When he's- 580.2873 531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 580.5251 When he was preaching. He can- 581.9286 532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 581.9286 (pause 1.83) 583.7600 533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 583.7600 584.1750 534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 584.1750 (pause 0.59) 584.7625 535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 584.7625 It's- it- it's a- 585.5365 536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 585.5365 (pause 0.24) 585.7744 537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 585.7744 Sometime it give me the 586.6929 538 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 586.6929 (pause 0.20) 586.8935 539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 586.8935 quivers how he- 588.0825 540 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 588.0825 (pause 0.34) 588.4229 541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 588.4229 I can look at him and see my dad. 590.3195 542 DCB_int_01 591.1262 Mm. 591.4293 543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 591.5319 And um, 591.9609 544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 591.9609 (pause 0.67) 592.6323 545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 592.6323 592.7023 546 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 592.7023 (pause 0.48) 593.1825 547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 593.1825 that's a awesome thing. 594.2270 548 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 594.2270 (pause 0.75) 594.9778 549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 594.9778 Mm. 595.0664 550 DCB_int_01 596.1377 And 596.9583 551 DCB_int_01 596.9583 (pause 0.28) 597.2381 552 DCB_int_01 597.2381 do you think- 598.1474 553 DCB_int_01 598.1474 (pause 0.23) 598.3759 554 DCB_int_01 598.3759 And maybe that was God's gift to you, 600.6301 555 DCB_int_01 600.6301 (pause 0.22) 600.8472 556 DCB_int_01 600.8472 you know, is to give him that spirit. Because [I believe] a lot of young people have old spirits. Like I have a [old spirit.] 606.6392 557 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 603.3640 [Mm.] 603.7277 558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 603.7277 (pause 2.39) 606.1151 559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 606.1151 [Mm-hm.] 606.7260 560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 606.8134 [Mm-hm.] 607.2517 561 DCB_int_01 606.8181 [I feel like] I'm about seventy three. 608.4361 562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 608.4827 609.4013 563 DCB_int_01 609.4573 Um, 609.8396 564 DCB_int_01 609.8396 (pause 1.24) 611.0846 565 DCB_int_01 611.0846 maybe seventy six. 612.2224 566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 612.3156 Okay- 612.9580 567 DCB_int_01 612.9300 Um, 613.2144 568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 613.6201 [Okay.] 614.1050 569 DCB_int_01 613.8626 [but-] but I think young people 615.7137 570 DCB_int_01 616.1101 sometimes can inhabit that 617.9569 571 DCB_int_01 617.9569 (pause 0.51) 618.4648 572 DCB_int_01 618.4648 like, 618.6642 573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 618.7248 Mm-hm. 619.0512 574 DCB_int_01 619.0605 maybe as their grandfather [or their] [grandmother] 621.6345 575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 620.4314 [Mm-hm.] 620.9117 576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 620.9117 (pause 0.28) 621.1962 577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 621.1962 [Mm-hm.] 621.6251 578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 621.8629 [I agree.] 622.4411 579 DCB_int_01 621.8629 [And they-] 622.1987 580 DCB_int_01 622.7769 Do s- Does he have a lot of the same [mannerisms?] 624.7819 581 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 624.2690 [Oh], Lord, yes. 625.6108 582 DCB_int_01 625.6108 [Mm-hm.] 626.0771 583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 625.7413 [He's] got that 626.5060 584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 626.8558 dry sense of humor 627.9422 585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 627.9422 (pause 0.39) 628.3339 586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 628.3339 that, 628.5064 587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 628.5064 (pause 0.12) 628.6277 588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 628.6277 you know, he can make you laugh, and he's looking at you, and you falling out at something he said. 633.1444 589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 633.1444 (pause 0.50) 633.6438 590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 633.6438 And my dad could do that from- 635.0287 591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 635.0287 (pause 0.10) 635.1266 592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 635.1266 even did it at his sermons sometime. 636.7913 593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 636.7913 (pause 0.25) 637.0384 594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 637.0384 I do remember that. 638.0164 595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 638.0164 (pause 0.18) 638.1936 596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 638.1936 Yeah he could make- he- he- 639.5738 597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 639.5738 (pause 0.28) 639.8490 598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 639.8490 He'd put humor in his messages, and that's the same thing /RD-NAME-2/ does. It's humor in his messages. 644.9863 599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 644.9863 (pause 0.41) 645.3967 600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 645.3967 But you get it. 646.2033 601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 646.2033 (pause 0.32) 646.5251 602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 646.5251 It's real. 647.2382 603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 647.2382 (pause 0.21) 647.4437 604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 647.4437 I mean 647.8027 605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 647.8027 (pause 0.90) 648.6980 606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 648.6980 you know God is so- [working with him.] 650.5433 607 DCB_int_01 649.8066 [/In session/] him, [yeah.] 651.1542 608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 650.8231 [Mm-hm.] 651.3547 609 DCB_int_01 651.5039 So you said your dad passed. 653.0958 610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 653.0986 Yeah he passed in nineteen sixty. 654.9311 611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 654.9311 (pause 0.70) 655.6294 612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 655.6294 He uh- 656.2227 613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 656.2227 (pause 0.29) 656.5154 614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 656.5154 he had a heart attack. 657.5878 615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 657.5878 (pause 0.42) 658.0122 616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 658.0122 Um, 658.3759 617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 658.3759 (pause 1.04) 659.4110 618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 659.4110 when we lived in Lincoln Park, 660.9486 619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 660.9486 (pause 0.35) 661.2937 620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 661.2937 it was a- 661.6574 621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 661.6574 (pause 0.19) 661.8439 622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 661.8439 one of those big old brownstone type houses 664.3732 623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 664.3732 (pause 0.66) 665.0360 624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 665.0360 and 665.4831 625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 665.4831 (pause 0.09) 665.5696 626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 665.5696 three floors. 666.3955 627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 666.3955 (pause 0.73) 667.1258 628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 667.1258 And at one point, 668.0817 629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 668.0817 (pause 0.33) 668.4081 630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 668.4081 our whole family lived in that house. 670.3603 631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 670.3603 (pause 0.61) 670.9681 632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 670.9681 All of my brothers, 672.1307 633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 672.1307 (pause 0.90) 673.0279 634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 673.0279 all- It was two brothers, 674.2776 635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 674.2776 (pause 0.69) 674.9723 636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 674.9723 three sisters, 675.9445 637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 675.9445 (pause 0.82) 676.7676 638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 676.7676 two sisters with all 677.7514 639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 677.7514 (pause 0.14) 677.8866 640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 677.8866 three- 678.2084 641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 678.2084 (pause 0.39) 678.6001 642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 678.6001 Each one had three kids, 679.9045 643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 679.9045 (pause 0.16) 680.0631 644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 680.0631 they were there. 680.6086 645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 680.6086 (pause 0.80) 681.4106 646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 681.4106 Um, 681.7977 647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 681.7977 (pause 0.69) 682.4924 648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 682.4924 uh, my uncle and his wife, 683.9240 649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 683.9240 (pause 0.13) 684.0498 650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 684.0498 my mother, my father and that- 685.3788 651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 685.3788 (pause 0.23) 685.6061 652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 685.6061 We all lived in that uh- We loved- 687.6951 653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 687.6951 (pause 0.24) 687.9329 654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 687.9329 Oh we had so much 688.7536 655 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 688.7536 (pause 0.09) 688.8468 656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 688.8468 great times in that house. 690.1151 657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 690.1151 (pause 0.69) 690.8006 658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 690.8006 Just, 691.1270 659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 691.1270 (pause 0.32) 691.4476 660 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 691.4476 you know, just 692.3615 661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 692.3615 (pause 0.21) 692.5667 662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 692.5667 being together. 693.3733 663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 693.3733 (pause 0.11) 693.4853 664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 693.4853 Cooking that- He c- He- 694.3153 665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 694.3153 (pause 0.34) 694.6510 666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 694.6510 He was a wonderful cook. He- 696.2084 667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 696.2084 (pause 0.56) 696.7726 668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 696.7726 Oh he could go in the refrigerator and j- just look and 699.2381 669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 699.2381 (pause 0.09) 699.3267 670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 699.3267 pull stuff out and be so good. 701.4333 671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 701.4333 (pause 0.77) 702.1991 672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 702.1991 But he'd 702.4870 673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 702.4870 (pause 0.13) 702.6176 674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 702.6176 tear that kitchen up when w- when he- 704.1610 675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 704.1610 (pause 0.13) 704.2869 676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 704.2869 when he- 704.7019 677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 704.7019 (pause 0.16) 704.8651 678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 704.8651 w- 705.0703 679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 705.0703 (pause 0.30) 705.3687 680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 705.3687 When we finished eating, we knew 706.7862 681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 706.7862 (pause 0.15) 706.9401 682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 706.9401 who was in the kitchen 707.7607 683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 707.7607 (pause 0.16) 707.9193 684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 707.9193 cause /it w-/ 708.3991 685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 708.3991 (pause 0.33) 708.7295 686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 708.7295 flour on the floor, this and that. He s- said, okay y'all get in here, clean up this kitchen. 713.1965 687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 713.1965 (pause 0.46) 713.6582 688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 713.6582 He did- He had done all the damage, but we had to do the w- work [cleaning it up.] 717.8210 689 DCB_int_01 716.6366 [/unintelligible/ Mm-hm.] 717.4992 690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 718.6044 But uh, 719.0660 691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 719.0660 (pause 0.20) 719.2665 692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 719.2665 we- we- we had 720.4136 693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 720.4136 (pause 0.12) 720.5342 694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 720.5342 parties in the basement. 721.7367 695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 721.7367 (pause 0.13) 721.8626 696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 721.8626 You know, and he- he loved to dance, and 724.0028 697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 724.0028 (pause 0.49) 724.4924 698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 724.4924 he was just- 725.1825 699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 725.1825 (pause 0.27) 725.4530 700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 725.4530 Oh. 725.8960 701 DCB_int_01 725.6768 /Inaudible/ 726.3145 702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 727.8672 When he passed, 728.9956 703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 728.9956 (pause 0.57) 729.5645 704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 729.5645 something went out of me. 730.6510 705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 730.6510 (pause 0.97) 731.6209 706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 731.6209 I love- I just- 732.7267 707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 732.7267 (pause 1.45) 734.1810 708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 734.1810 He was up here. 734.8977 709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 734.8977 (pause 1.07) 735.9655 710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 735.9655 And so 736.4924 711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 736.4924 (pause 1.02) 737.5136 712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 737.5136 it was hard, 738.2690 713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 738.2690 (pause 0.11) 738.3809 714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 738.3809 but um, 738.9580 715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 738.9580 (pause 1.23) 740.1843 716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 740.1843 those are- Some of the best memories were in that house. 742.9706 717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 742.9706 (pause 0.82) 743.7934 718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 743.7934 Mm. 744.1757 719 DCB_int_01 744.9580 And so what happened after you guys moved from- 747.2428 720 DCB_int_01 747.2428 (pause 0.62) 747.8676 721 DCB_int_01 747.8676 So you moved 748.5904 722 DCB_int_01 748.5904 (pause 0.27) 748.8561 723 DCB_int_01 748.8561 out soon after he [passed.] 750.3809 724 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 750.1291 [S- Yes], soon after he passed, and um, 751.9698 725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 752.7205 my- one of my older brothers helped 754.9587 726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 754.9587 (pause 0.15) 755.1079 727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 755.1079 my mother, you know. He s- 755.9240 728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 755.9240 (pause 0.11) 756.0359 729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 756.0359 stepped in and s- 756.9591 730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 756.9591 (pause 0.51) 757.4709 731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 757.4709 So we moved to 758.6133 732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 758.6133 (pause 1.53) 760.1474 733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 760.1474 G Street in Southeast, which is over off of um, 763.2016 734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 763.2016 (pause 0.36) 763.5595 735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 763.5595 Minnesota Avenue. 764.5480 736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 764.5480 (pause 1.05) 765.5972 737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 765.5972 Over near that uh, Fort Dupont 767.2711 738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 767.2711 (pause 0.11) 767.3784 739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 767.3784 [Park.] 768.0732 740 DCB_int_01 767.9333 [Mm. Mm.] 768.7306 741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 768.2504 [Mm, over in that] area. 769.3275 742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 770.1284 And um, 770.7998 743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 770.7998 (pause 1.81) 772.6090 744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 772.6090 that was a fun house. It was big house and 775.2923 745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 775.2923 (pause 1.57) 776.8604 746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 776.8604 a brother- One of my brothers and 778.6929 747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 778.6929 (pause 0.50) 779.1919 748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 779.1919 my older- 779.5803 749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 779.5803 (pause 0.41) 779.9939 750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 779.9939 two of my older sisters, my mother, 781.9489 751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 781.9489 (pause 0.27) 782.2169 752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 782.2169 and me. 782.5433 753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 782.5433 (pause 0.31) 782.8558 754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 782.8558 Yeah. 783.0889 755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 783.0889 (pause 1.03) 784.1194 756 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 784.1194 And we had fun in that house. Um, 785.7234 757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 785.7234 (pause 1.25) 786.9778 758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 786.9778 why we moved, I don't know. I was a- I was- 789.1309 759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 789.1309 (pause 0.23) 789.3640 760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 789.3640 When my father died I was ten, so when we left that house, I was 792.9541 761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 792.9541 (pause 0.09) 793.0466 762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 793.0466 twelve. 793.6248 763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 793.6248 (pause 1.52) 795.1495 764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 795.1495 So I- You know, I didn't know all the goings on and stuff. I was still too young to 799.2480 765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 799.2480 (pause 0.51) 799.7553 766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 799.7553 be- 799.8999 767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 799.8999 (pause 0.11) 800.0118 768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 800.0118 but I 800.2636 769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 800.2636 (pause 0.12) 800.3848 770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 800.3848 just know that 801.2825 771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 801.2825 (pause 0.40) 801.6811 772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 801.6811 we moved, and when we were there, I went to um, 804.0872 773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 804.0872 (pause 1.32) 805.4103 774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 805.4103 /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 805.7413 775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 805.7413 (pause 0.26) 806.0025 776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 806.0025 Well when I was at- when we were at 807.3407 777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 807.3407 (pause 0.18) 807.5226 778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 807.5226 Lincoln Park, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School. 810.2037 779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 810.2037 (pause 0.55) 810.7493 780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 810.7493 And uh- 811.4780 781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 811.4780 (pause 0.41) 811.8905 782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 811.8905 um, 812.2385 783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 812.2385 (pause 0.18) 812.4175 784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 812.4175 that's- 812.6553 785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 812.6553 (pause 0.22) 812.8791 786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 812.8791 that's the biggest 813.7044 787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 813.7044 (pause 0.24) 813.9469 788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 813.9469 chunk of school that I can remember. I went there from third grade to sixth grade. 817.6060 789 DCB_int_01 817.8532 Mm. 818.1284 790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 818.6506 And then um, 819.5832 791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 819.5832 (pause 0.70) 820.2826 792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 820.2826 on G Street I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and that's where I 822.5726 793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 822.5726 (pause 0.18) 822.7528 794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 822.7528 was promoted from, then 823.8968 795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 823.8968 (pause 0.10) 823.9978 796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 823.9978 I went to junior high school. 825.3574 797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 825.3574 (pause 0.65) 826.0075 798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 826.0075 So 826.4785 799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 826.4785 (pause 0.10) 826.5810 800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 826.5810 by that time, 827.5789 801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 827.5789 (pause 0.31) 827.8866 802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 827.8866 we moved to 829.0151 803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 829.0151 (pause 0.91) 829.9232 804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 829.9232 um- 830.3568 805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 830.3568 (pause 0.78) 831.1402 806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 831.1402 where was it? 831.6727 807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 831.6727 (pause 1.01) 832.6836 808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 832.6836 N Street, Southwest. 834.3250 809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 834.3250 (pause 2.14) 836.4687 810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 836.4687 I don't remember what that was near. That was- 838.5484 811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 838.5484 (pause 0.94) 839.4903 812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 839.4903 I don't have a whole lot of memories o- of that house except it was a- 842.2636 813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 842.2636 (pause 0.15) 842.4175 814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 842.4175 a spooky house. We all 843.5505 815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 843.5505 (pause 0.15) 843.6997 816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 843.6997 thought it was haunted. 844.9867 817 DCB_int_01 845.4623 Oh. 845.7287 818 DCB_int_01 845.7287 (pause 0.20) 845.9315 819 DCB_int_01 845.9315 Huh. 846.1600 820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 846.2270 Yeah, cause it was- 847.0011 821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 847.0011 (pause 0.16) 847.1585 822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 847.1585 it was kind of dark. It was on the ground floor. 849.6588 823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 849.6588 (pause 0.76) 850.4178 824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 850.4178 We did have upstairs bedrooms, yeah. 852.1571 825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 852.1571 (pause 0.61) 852.7679 826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 852.7679 And but we could never 853.8672 827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 853.8672 (pause 0.76) 854.6226 828 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 854.6226 lock 854.8511 829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 854.8511 (pause 0.17) 855.0190 830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 855.0190 the front door. 855.7883 831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 855.7883 (pause 1.18) 856.9681 832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 856.9681 We don't know why. We- 858.2923 833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 858.2923 (pause 0.30) 858.5954 834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 858.5954 we just never could, 859.5500 835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 859.5500 (pause 0.23) 859.7786 836 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 859.7786 and it sold. 860.4221 837 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 860.4221 (pause 0.56) 860.9863 838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 860.9863 The day that we moved cause we didn't- we weren't there long, 863.8587 839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 863.8587 (pause 0.93) 864.7866 840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 864.7866 and so the day we moved, we could lock the door. 866.7858 841 DCB_int_01 868.1008 [Hm.] 868.4551 842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 868.1054 [And so-] And we was- 869.5789 843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 869.9939 you know, the- just weird little things were happening there, lights would come on and off and 873.8909 844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 873.8909 (pause 0.64) 874.5297 845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 874.5297 stran- You know, so we said, well- 876.4742 846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 876.4742 (pause 0.27) 876.7446 847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 876.7446 Well I guess 877.0943 848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 877.0943 (pause 0.12) 877.2191 849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 877.2191 they said, we gotta get out of here. We gonna go [somewhere else.] Yeah. 880.6323 850 DCB_int_01 879.3594 [/You can/ go somewhere else.] 880.3059 851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 881.7048 And so I was- I was supposed to go to /RD-SCHOOL-1/- I did go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ uh, Junior High School for like, 887.3318 852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 887.3318 (pause 0.71) 888.0405 853 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 888.0405 a month. 888.6094 854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 888.6094 (pause 0.96) 889.5688 855 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 889.5688 And then um, 890.5760 856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 890.5760 (pause 1.13) 891.7091 857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 891.7091 I was um- 892.5904 858 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 892.5904 (pause 0.26) 892.8468 859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 892.8468 When we moved to- from S- 894.3110 860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 894.3110 (pause 0.18) 894.4928 861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 894.4928 Southwest, we moved to 895.8439 862 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 895.8439 (pause 0.74) 896.5807 863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 896.5807 Potomac Avenue, Southeast. 898.2173 864 DCB_int_01 898.5437 Mm-hm. 898.9121 865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 899.6395 Um, 899.9566 866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 899.9566 (pause 0.55) 900.5022 867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 900.5022 over by DC General. 901.8569 868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 901.8569 (pause 1.44) 903.2987 869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 903.2987 And 903.9236 870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 903.9236 (pause 0.35) 904.2733 871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 904.2733 we were at the end of that street, 905.5468 872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 905.5468 (pause 0.34) 905.8913 873 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 905.8913 and um, 906.3296 874 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 906.3296 (pause 0.57) 906.9020 875 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 906.9020 the DC morgue was at the- 908.2776 876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 908.2776 (pause 0.15) 908.4268 877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 908.4268 that- 908.7345 878 DCB_int_01 909.2474 Oh. 909.5319 879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 909.5785 at [the end of the] street. 910.6417 880 DCB_int_01 909.6904 [Okay.] 910.1241 881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 911.0893 Potomac Avenue, I think it was Eighteenth that went that /fars/. 913.6947 882 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 913.6947 (pause 0.68) 914.3708 883 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 914.3708 And there was a cemetery behind our house (laughing). It was- 917.3970 884 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 917.3970 (pause 0.55) 917.9473 885 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 917.9473 But it was a beautiful row house, 919.6434 886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 919.6434 (pause 0.11) 919.7507 887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 919.7507 and uh, 920.3149 888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 920.3149 (pause 0.46) 920.7718 889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 920.7718 a nice- 921.3415 890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 921.3415 (pause 0.10) 921.4386 891 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 921.4386 in the inside was nice. We had fun times there. It was my m- 924.2550 892 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 924.2550 (pause 0.57) 924.8239 893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 924.8239 my mother, my sister /RD-NAME-2/, and then me 926.8558 894 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 926.8558 (pause 0.21) 927.0609 895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 927.0609 and her- 927.7082 896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 927.7082 (pause 0.62) 928.3292 897 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 928.3292 uh- 928.6137 898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 928.6137 (pause 0.52) 929.1359 899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 929.1359 older brother's wife /RD-NAME-2/. 930.8586 900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 930.8586 (pause 0.65) 931.5082 901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 931.5082 So it was just us. 932.7299 902 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 932.7299 (pause 0.69) 933.4153 903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 933.4153 And at that house, I went to um- 935.5742 904 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 935.5742 (pause 1.00) 936.5721 905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 936.5721 ended up going to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ Junior High School. 938.7532 906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 938.7532 (pause 1.38) 940.1381 907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 940.1381 I loved that school. I- It was a good school. 942.7446 908 DCB_int_01 942.7481 Why'd you love that school? 943.8766 909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 945.2754 I liked the building. It w- it- it- 947.1313 910 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 947.1313 (pause 0.27) 947.3970 911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 947.3970 it- 947.5929 912 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 947.5929 (pause 0.43) 948.0265 913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 948.0265 it was- 948.5441 914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 948.5441 (pause 0.32) 948.8612 915 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 948.8612 the- 949.1445 916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 949.1445 (pause 0.76) 949.9045 917 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 949.9045 It was something about being inside that school building. It was just- 952.8888 918 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 952.8888 (pause 1.22) 954.1105 919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 954.1105 It was just a 954.6560 920 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 954.6560 (pause 0.25) 954.9078 921 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 954.9078 good place to be. It was a good feeling when I was in there. 957.4531 922 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 957.4531 (pause 0.45) 957.9003 923 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 957.9003 And I did well in all- all of my classes. 960.2877 924 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 960.2877 (pause 0.09) 960.3763 925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 960.3763 I did well. 961.0664 926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 961.0664 (pause 0.58) 961.6434 927 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 961.6434 I liked my teachers. 962.8138 928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 962.8138 (pause 0.77) 963.5878 929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 963.5878 And I met 963.9982 930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 963.9982 (pause 0.13) 964.1287 931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 964.1287 um, 964.6790 932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 964.6790 (pause 1.11) 965.7934 933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 965.7934 a lifelong friend. We still friends, 967.9041 934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 967.9041 (pause 0.10) 968.0025 935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 968.0025 and I was there at the seventh grade. 969.9003 936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 969.9003 (pause 0.15) 970.0541 937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 970.0541 970.3386 938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 970.3386 (pause 0.55) 970.8841 939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 970.8841 And she and I w- She was- She came- When I was in the ninth, she came /near/ in the seventh. 975.2148 940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 975.2148 (pause 0.72) 975.9376 941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 975.9376 And 976.3665 942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 976.3665 (pause 0.21) 976.5810 943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 976.5810 um, 977.0054 944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 977.0054 (pause 0.70) 977.7095 945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 977.7095 we became f- We still friends. 979.1969 946 DCB_int_01 979.5362 What's her name? 979.9885 947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 980.2169 Her name's /RD-NAME-3/. 981.2288 948 DCB_int_01 981.5086 [/RD-NAME-2/-] 981.9142 949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 981.7044 [/RD-NAME-3/.] 982.1847 950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 982.9681 She's a minister now, and uh, 984.6747 951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 984.6747 (pause 1.21) 985.8812 952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 985.8812 we- our b- birthdays are two days apart. And we just like kindred spirits 989.4716 953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 989.4716 (pause 0.16) 989.6349 954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 989.6349 type thing. 990.2410 955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 990.2410 (pause 0.35) 990.5861 956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 990.5861 But uh- 990.9918 957 DCB_int_01 991.1398 And do you get together often? 992.3626 958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 992.6832 Not often, but when we do, it's- it's real. 995.2105 959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 995.2105 (pause 0.45) 995.6628 960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 995.6628 [You know?] 996.0918 961 DCB_int_01 995.6675 [You can always] [share a lot] of [memories and-] 997.5500 962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 996.1991 [I can't-] 996.5768 963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 996.5768 (pause 0.42) 996.9999 964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 996.9999 [Oh yeah.] 997.8113 965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 998.0071 Yes indeed. 998.8231 966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 998.8231 (pause 0.50) 999.3267 967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 999.3267 Cause back then we- we did get together 1001.3784 968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1001.3784 (pause 0.48) 1001.8587 969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1001.8587 when um- 1002.2970 970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1002.2970 (pause 1.80) 1004.1004 971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1004.1004 Let me back track a little bit. 1005.4153 972 DCB_int_01 1005.8723 /Inaudible/ 1006.3712 973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1006.6463 Oh [whoops. Sorry, okay.] 1007.9426 974 DCB_int_01 1006.8468 [/This./ No you fine.] I'm'a move it to this side. 1009.1689 975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1009.2564 Okay. 1009.7040 976 DCB_int_01 1010.3335 I think that'll help. 1011.0842 977 DCB_int_01 1011.0842 (pause 0.21) 1011.2987 978 DCB_int_01 1011.2987 That way you can- There you go. 1012.4411 979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1012.4598 Okay. 1012.9867 980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1012.9867 (pause 1.71) 1014.6933 981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1014.6933 So let's see. I'm gonna go back to when we were on Potomac Avenue. 1018.0401 982 DCB_int_01 1018.0784 Mkay. 1018.4691 983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1018.7582 Um, 1019.1313 984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1019.1313 (pause 2.65) 1021.7833 985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1021.7833 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ Junior High- Yes, I used to walk- 1024.2640 986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1024.2640 (pause 0.79) 1025.0567 987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1025.0567 walk up uh, 1025.9473 988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1025.9473 (pause 0.76) 1026.7108 989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1026.7108 Pennsylvania Avenue. I 1028.0444 990 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1028.0444 (pause 0.12) 1028.1657 991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1028.1657 remember that street, 1028.9910 992 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1028.9910 (pause 0.69) 1029.6811 993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1029.6811 walking into /RD-SCHOOL-1/. 1030.5531 994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1030.5531 (pause 1.10) 1031.6488 995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1031.6488 We used to step out of- 1032.9824 996 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1032.9824 (pause 0.38) 1033.3636 997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1033.3636 at lunch time, and go over to Eastern Market and 1035.5508 998 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1035.5508 (pause 0.21) 1035.7604 999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1035.7604 1035.9609 1000 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1035.9609 (pause 0.19) 1036.1474 1001 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1036.1474 get (laughing) 1036.4831 1002 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1036.4831 (pause 0.53) 1037.0100 1003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1037.0100 us potato chips out of this big barrel. 1039.8952 1004 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1039.8952 (pause 0.32) 1040.2123 1005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1040.2123 That was fun. 1040.9677 1006 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1040.9677 (pause 0.53) 1041.4946 1007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1041.4946 Um, 1042.0868 1008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1042.0868 (pause 2.01) 1044.0918 1009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1044.0918 uh yeah. So I met- When I met 1045.8019 1010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1045.8019 (pause 0.09) 1045.8905 1011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1045.8905 my friend /RD-NAME-3/, 1047.0842 1012 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1047.0842 (pause 2.00) 1049.0846 1013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1049.0846 um, we w- 1049.8167 1014 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1049.8167 (pause 0.09) 1049.9100 1015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1049.9100 we had b- 1050.4835 1016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1050.4835 (pause 0.09) 1050.5721 1017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1050.5721 I had- 1050.8614 1018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1050.8614 (pause 0.11) 1050.9720 1019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1050.9720 My mother and I had joined this church. Uh, Shiloh Baptist Church? 1054.1413 1020 DCB_int_01 1054.0401 Mm, [mm-hm.] 1054.9214 1021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1054.4738 [Mm-hm.] 1054.9168 1022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1055.6022 So 1056.1198 1023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1056.1198 (pause 0.42) 1056.5395 1024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1056.5395 this was the uh- this was- I s- think I skipped a point, 1059.3780 1025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1059.3780 (pause 0.40) 1059.7790 1026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1059.7790 but anyway, I'll go back. But- 1061.1779 1027 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1061.1779 (pause 0.14) 1061.3131 1028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1061.3131 but 1061.5229 1029 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1061.5229 (pause 0.11) 1061.6302 1030 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1061.6302 we had met 1062.2177 1031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1062.2177 (pause 0.17) 1062.3902 1032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1062.3902 and uh- at Shiloh Baptist Church and 1064.3522 1033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1064.3522 (pause 0.65) 1065.0003 1034 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1065.0003 while I wa- while we were there, 1066.5484 1035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1066.5484 (pause 0.58) 1067.1313 1036 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1067.1313 we'd all discovered that we sang- 1068.6922 1037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1068.6922 (pause 0.13) 1068.8227 1038 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1068.8227 all of us sang. We were in the youth choir and everything. 1071.2708 1039 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1071.2708 (pause 0.63) 1071.9003 1040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1071.9003 And so /RD-NAME-3/ and her sister 1074.0359 1041 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1074.0359 (pause 0.99) 1075.0244 1042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1075.0244 and 1075.4720 1043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1075.4720 (pause 0.24) 1075.7087 1044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1075.7087 two- 1076.1284 1045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1076.1284 (pause 0.26) 1076.3848 1046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1076.3848 uh, two other sets of sisters 1078.3153 1047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1078.3153 (pause 0.27) 1078.5810 1048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1078.5810 and I. We got together and formed a group called the Uniques. 1081.5500 1049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1081.5500 (pause 0.82) 1082.3662 1050 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1082.3662 And we sang- 1083.4153 1051 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1083.4153 (pause 0.84) 1084.2593 1052 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1084.2593 we sang. 1085.3131 1053 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1085.3131 (pause 0.34) 1085.6488 1054 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1085.6488 We were really good. 1086.7539 1055 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1086.7539 (pause 0.21) 1086.9626 1056 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1086.9626 We were really good. 1087.9838 1057 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1087.9838 (pause 0.18) 1088.1610 1058 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1088.1610 I mean we 1088.7112 1059 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1088.7112 (pause 0.11) 1088.8231 1060 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1088.8231 traveled around and 1090.0635 1061 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1090.0635 (pause 0.70) 1090.7676 1062 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1090.7676 went f- 1090.9168 1063 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1090.9168 (pause 0.14) 1091.0613 1064 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1091.0613 to different churches and 1092.4866 1065 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1092.4866 (pause 0.63) 1093.1118 1066 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1093.1118 were on the radio and- 1094.4221 1067 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1094.4221 (pause 1.32) 1095.7417 1068 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1095.7417 But, um, we were together the /?/ for like fourteen years. 1098.6234 1069 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1098.6234 (pause 0.60) 1099.2191 1070 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1099.2191 Mm-hm. 1099.8159 1071 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1099.8159 (pause 0.31) 1100.1284 1072 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1100.1284 And so 1100.6832 1073 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1100.6832 (pause 0.65) 1101.3314 1074 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1101.3314 that was a highlight 1102.1614 1075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1102.1614 (pause 0.21) 1102.3759 1076 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1102.3759 of being at that church. 1103.6115 1077 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1103.6115 (pause 0.18) 1103.7888 1078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1103.7888 Shiloh, I learned n- a whole lot 1105.3461 1079 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1105.3461 (pause 0.21) 1105.5595 1080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1105.5595 being at Shiloh church, 1106.8328 1081 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1106.8328 (pause 1.65) 1108.4785 1082 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1108.4785 learned a lot. 1109.1919 1083 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1109.1919 (pause 0.27) 1109.4623 1084 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1109.4623 Um, 1109.8074 1085 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1109.8074 (pause 0.62) 1110.4322 1086 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1110.4322 my singing 1111.1689 1087 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1111.1689 (pause 0.73) 1111.8952 1088 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1111.8952 really grew /up/. 1112.5807 1089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1112.5807 (pause 0.15) 1112.7345 1090 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1112.7345 I kind of thought I might make a- 1114.3665 1091 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1114.3665 (pause 0.12) 1114.4878 1092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1114.4878 try to make a career out of it, but 1116.0172 1093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1116.0172 (pause 1.65) 1117.6667 1094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1117.6667 Uh, 1117.7646 1095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1117.7646 (pause 0.10) 1117.8626 1096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1117.8626 just the singing part I was good at. But the other part of the music, the training, the- 1122.1757 1097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1122.1757 (pause 0.53) 1122.7073 1098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1122.7073 the theory, the- all that stuff was too much for me. I wasn't ready for all of that, and so uh, 1127.9519 1099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1127.9519 (pause 0.30) 1128.2550 1100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1128.2550 I lost interest in it, and- /and then I/ 1129.9372 1101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1129.9372 (pause 0.13) 1130.0631 1102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1130.0631 dropped out. 1130.5124 1103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1130.5124 (pause 1.21) 1131.7184 1104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1131.7184 And I just worked. 1132.7361 1105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1132.7361 (pause 0.28) 1133.0147 1106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1133.0147 And uh, 1133.6115 1107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1133.6115 (pause 1.02) 1134.6362 1108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1134.6362 I started /RD-WORK-5/, 1136.4408 1109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1136.4408 (pause 0.15) 1136.5946 1110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1136.5946 and 1137.1262 1111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1137.1262 (pause 0.81) 1137.9376 1112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1137.9376 that's where I retired from. 1139.0147 1113 DCB_int_01 1140.2597 Now you worked- 1141.1596 1114 DCB_int_01 1141.1596 (pause 0.16) 1141.3170 1115 DCB_int_01 1141.3170 I remember- 1141.9418 1116 DCB_int_01 1141.9418 (pause 0.13) 1142.0724 1117 DCB_int_01 1142.0724 Well one thing that I know /RD-NAME-2/ talked a lot about 1144.5857 1118 DCB_int_01 1144.5857 (pause 0.56) 1145.1452 1119 DCB_int_01 1145.1452 was 1145.6255 1120 DCB_int_01 1145.6255 (pause 0.24) 1145.8680 1121 DCB_int_01 1145.8680 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary, 1146.9673 1122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1147.3310 Mm. Mm. 1147.8719 1123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1147.8719 (pause 0.43) 1148.3009 1124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1148.3009 1148.8464 1125 DCB_int_01 1148.8511 and I wanna hear- 1150.5297 1126 DCB_int_01 1150.5297 (pause 0.50) 1151.0287 1127 DCB_int_01 1151.0287 And I know you worked at a school not far from /RD-SCHOOL-2/, but you didn't work at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1154.5294 1128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1154.5620 Mm-mm. 1155.0050 1129 DCB_int_01 1155.5086 Um, 1155.9609 1130 DCB_int_01 1155.9609 (pause 1.09) 1157.0520 1131 DCB_int_01 1157.0520 but I wanna- I want you to kind of talk about 1158.8192 1132 DCB_int_01 1158.8192 (pause 0.58) 1159.3963 1133 DCB_int_01 1159.3963 being in school, 1160.4594 1134 DCB_int_01 1160.4594 (pause 0.43) 1160.8931 1135 DCB_int_01 1160.8931 um, like- Cause you came through /RD-WORK-4/, [and then working] for /RD-WORK-4/. 1164.6001 1136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1162.9774 [Mm-hm.] 1163.3970 1137 DCB_int_01 1165.2191 And then, 1165.7642 1138 DCB_int_01 1165.7642 (pause 0.20) 1165.9605 1139 DCB_int_01 1165.9605 also kind of- 1166.7765 1140 DCB_int_01 1166.7765 (pause 0.62) 1167.3920 1141 DCB_int_01 1167.3920 Do you remember when he was in school? And like, 1169.9379 1142 DCB_int_01 1169.9379 (pause 0.26) 1170.1944 1143 DCB_int_01 1170.1944 I mean I know you remember, but I [mean, do you] remember like, some of the- 1173.0096 1144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1171.4755 [Mm.] 1171.8579 1145 DCB_int_01 1173.6391 Tell me some funny stories about 1175.3084 1146 DCB_int_01 1175.3084 (pause 0.17) 1175.4763 1147 DCB_int_01 1175.4763 him going through- Because that was a big part of what he talked about was /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary. That school really 1180.7909 1148 DCB_int_01 1180.7909 (pause 0.24) 1181.0287 1149 DCB_int_01 1181.0287 changed his whole [outlook on everything.] 1183.0291 1150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1182.0079 [] 1183.2342 1151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1184.2263 Yeah because um- 1185.4526 1152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1185.4526 (pause 1.07) 1186.5204 1153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1186.5204 Let's see when he was three, I 1188.4042 1154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1188.4042 (pause 0.09) 1188.4963 1155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1188.4963 put him in um, 1189.4989 1156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1189.4989 (pause 0.79) 1190.2869 1157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1190.2869 day care. 1190.8791 1158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1190.8791 (pause 0.48) 1191.3640 1159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1191.3640 And it was a church across the street from /RD-SCHOOL-2/. It was /RD-CHURCH-7/. 1195.2669 1160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1195.2669 (pause 0.61) 1195.8766 1161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1195.8766 And they had a outstanding program, and he learned a- 1198.4505 1162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1198.4505 (pause 0.12) 1198.5717 1163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1198.5717 did so well there. 1199.6675 1164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1199.6675 (pause 0.38) 1200.0452 1165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1200.0452 And so 1200.7213 1166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1200.7213 (pause 0.55) 1201.2762 1167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1201.2762 when time put him to 1202.7159 1168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1202.7159 (pause 0.64) 1203.3567 1169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1203.3567 come out of that program, 1204.5344 1170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1204.5344 (pause 0.22) 1204.7536 1171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1204.7536 go to school, 1205.4903 1172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1205.4903 (pause 0.85) 1206.3389 1173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1206.3389 um, 1206.7353 1174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1206.7353 (pause 1.05) 1207.7833 1175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1207.7833 I talked to his teacher and- about the program that they had at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 1210.8375 1176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1210.8375 (pause 0.31) 1211.1499 1177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1211.1499 with the tw- between the two places, and they 1213.2482 1178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1213.2482 (pause 0.64) 1213.8859 1179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1213.8859 you know, 1214.3568 1180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1214.3568 (pause 0.14) 1214.4967 1181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1214.4967 made 1214.8418 1182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1214.8418 (pause 0.69) 1215.5319 1183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1215.5319 uh- 1215.8816 1184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1215.8816 (pause 0.66) 1216.5437 1185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1216.5437 I had a- a kind of relationship with /RD-CHURCH-4/, so that 1219.0477 1186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1219.0477 (pause 0.49) 1219.5422 1187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1219.5422 the kindergarten kids could come 1221.0910 1188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1221.0910 (pause 0.13) 1221.2235 1189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1221.2235 to that school. 1221.8769 1190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1221.8769 (pause 0.90) 1222.7722 1191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1222.7722 And so, I was working at 1224.1618 1192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1224.1618 (pause 0.22) 1224.3809 1193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1224.3809 /RD-WORK-1/ 1224.7228 1194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1224.7228 (pause 0.10) 1224.8227 1195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1224.8227 Elementary School, which was like, 1226.4687 1196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1226.4687 (pause 0.31) 1226.7765 1197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1226.7765 four or five blocks away from 1228.3526 1198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1228.3526 (pause 0.59) 1228.9447 1199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1228.9447 um, /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1229.5229 1200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1229.5229 (pause 0.71) 1230.2364 1201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1230.2364 And I went in and talked- 1231.4942 1202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1231.4942 (pause 0.28) 1231.7693 1203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1231.7693 Cause by this time, 1232.9350 1204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1232.9350 (pause 0.41) 1233.3454 1205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1233.3454 we's living in Maryland. 1234.4598 1206 DCB_int_01 1235.0333 Mm-hm. 1235.4996 1207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1236.9393 And so I said, well, I kn- I- You know, working in school, and I knew about the residency and all of that stuff, 1242.5208 1208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1242.5208 (pause 0.11) 1242.6327 1209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1242.6327 but I'd say, God, 1243.5968 1210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1243.5968 (pause 0.25) 1243.8486 1211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1243.8486 hey I- 1244.3615 1212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1244.3615 (pause 0.45) 1244.8091 1213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1244.8091 I can't send /RD-NAME-2/ just anywhere, /now I got/- You know, cause t- t- t- s- 1247.9892 1214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1247.9892 (pause 0.74) 1248.7248 1215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1248.7248 t- He's my life. 1249.4534 1216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1249.4534 (pause 0.14) 1249.5968 1217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1249.5968 He was my life. 1250.7112 1218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1250.7112 (pause 0.80) 1251.5086 1219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1251.5086 So 1252.0355 1220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1252.0355 (pause 0.09) 1252.1241 1221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1252.1241 I went and talked to the principal, 1253.5090 1222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1253.5090 (pause 0.27) 1253.7747 1223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1253.7747 and I explained to him 1254.8892 1224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1254.8892 (pause 0.15) 1255.0419 1225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1255.0419 you know, I worked near by. And I would like 1256.8884 1226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1256.8884 (pause 0.18) 1257.0703 1227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1257.0703 for him to be able to go there so i- I'd be close to him during the day and whatever. 1260.7493 1228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1260.7493 (pause 0.65) 1261.3963 1229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1261.3963 So he was very kind, and he said, well yeah, okay, 1263.7697 1230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1263.7697 (pause 0.28) 1264.0495 1231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1264.0495 we will work that out, and he did. 1265.4810 1232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1265.4810 (pause 0.28) 1265.7607 1233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1265.7607 And /RD-NAME-2/ was able to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1267.4849 1234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1267.4849 (pause 0.43) 1267.9185 1235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1267.9185 And so 1268.6553 1236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1268.6553 (pause 1.09) 1269.7417 1237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1269.7417 that was the best thing I think coulda happened to him. 1271.9519 1238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1271.9519 (pause 0.26) 1272.2131 1239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1272.2131 He- His- His pre-K teacher, 1274.0677 1240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1274.0677 (pause 0.51) 1274.5760 1241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1274.5760 she was just great. She uh- What was her name? 1277.0333 1242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1277.0333 (pause 0.17) 1277.2012 1243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1277.2012 Miss 1277.6022 1244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1277.6022 (pause 0.56) 1278.1618 1245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1278.1618 /RD-NAME-1/. 1278.5954 1246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1278.5954 (pause 1.28) 1279.8766 1247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1279.8766 And she uh- 1280.9583 1248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1280.9583 (pause 0.07) 1281.0330 1249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1281.0330 she loved /RD-NAME-2/, and th- they had a good 1283.0159 1250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1283.0159 (pause 0.19) 1283.2105 1251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1283.2105 connection and 1284.0872 1252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1284.0872 (pause 1.20) 1285.2890 1253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1285.2890 all- all of his teachers, uh, eve- even from- 1287.6578 1254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1287.6578 (pause 0.16) 1287.8163 1255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1287.8163 from pre-K he said, you know, /RD-NAME-2/ is 1290.0685 1256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1290.0685 (pause 0.11) 1290.1757 1257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1290.1757 good. He 1290.6280 1258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1290.6280 (pause 0.17) 1290.8006 1259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1290.8006 does all his work, 1291.5500 1260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1291.5500 (pause 0.57) 1292.1237 1261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1292.1237 but he talks so much! 1293.2008 1262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1293.2008 (pause 0.29) 1293.4946 1263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1293.4946 [ So,] 1295.0613 1264 DCB_int_01 1294.3619 [] 1295.0706 1265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1295.4483 and he said, well 1296.3623 1266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1296.3623 (pause 0.41) 1296.7714 1267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1296.7714 /it's a wonder he sees kids that-/ 1298.5014 1268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1298.5014 (pause 0.19) 1298.6879 1269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1298.6879 pre-K teacher. But then the kindergarten teacher said- 1300.9261 1270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1300.9261 (pause 0.77) 1301.6955 1271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1301.6955 she said, that /RD-NAME-2/, 1302.8205 1272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1302.8205 (pause 0.73) 1303.5502 1273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1303.5502 he get all his work done, 1304.6786 1274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1304.6786 (pause 0.07) 1304.7532 1275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1304.7532 then he all- Next thing, he's over there at that table, talking to somebody. Or he's over at this table to he- 1309.5408 1276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1309.5408 (pause 0.23) 1309.7693 1277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1309.7693 to helping somebody, talking to somebody. 1311.4433 1278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1311.4433 (pause 0.67) 1312.1101 1279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1312.1101 And he can be doing his work, and still doing something over here. 1315.6061 1280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1315.6061 (pause 0.10) 1315.7040 1281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1315.7040 So you know, he's still like that, /and hm/ [multitask.] I said, boy go sit down, do what you supposed to do. 1321.0617 1282 DCB_int_01 1317.9515 [Mm-hm.] 1318.5391 1283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1321.7180 But anyway, he did- he did well al- 1323.8967 1284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1323.8967 (pause 0.11) 1324.0028 1285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1324.0028 through all the wa- all the way through, and um, 1325.9006 1286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1325.9006 (pause 0.55) 1326.4462 1287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1326.4462 first grade was Miss 1327.8859 1288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1327.8859 (pause 0.75) 1328.6319 1289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1328.6319 uh- 1328.9956 1290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1328.9956 (pause 0.55) 1329.5412 1291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1329.5412 Oh Lord. I can see her face. I can't think of her name now. 1332.1804 1292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1332.1804 (pause 1.19) 1333.3683 1293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1333.3683 But anyway, she was tough. She loved /RD-NAME-2/ but she did not take no stuff off of him. 1337.9613 1294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1337.9613 (pause 0.66) 1338.6234 1295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1338.6234 And so then sh- she turned out to be I think one of his favorite teachers. [] 1342.4505 1296 DCB_int_01 1341.9515 [Mm.] 1342.4458 1297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1342.6556 [/Mm-hm./] 1343.0613 1298 DCB_int_01 1342.6556 [That's usually] how it [is.] 1343.8074 1299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1343.7234 [That's] right. 1344.1944 1300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1344.3856 That's right. 1344.8472 1301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1344.8472 (pause 0.84) 1345.6900 1302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1345.6900 And so, he came on up. Let's see, second grade, 1349.5183 1303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1349.5183 (pause 1.06) 1350.5756 1304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1350.5756 I can't remember her name. She was a little white teacher. She was 1353.4246 1305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1353.4246 (pause 0.56) 1353.9888 1306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1353.9888 kind of scary like- 1355.0781 1307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1355.0781 (pause 0.20) 1355.2737 1308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1355.2737 like- 1355.4343 1309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1355.4343 (pause 0.09) 1355.5229 1310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1355.5229 you know, she was in the school with all these black t- p- p- people, 1358.2407 1311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1358.2407 (pause 0.25) 1358.4874 1312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1358.4874 children. She was- 1359.4106 1313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1359.4106 (pause 0.41) 1359.8210 1314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1359.8210 didn't handle it too well, so she was gone after next year. 1362.6514 1315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1362.6514 (pause 0.66) 1363.3077 1316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1363.3077 Third grade teacher was a Miss /RD-NAME-2/, 1365.6251 1317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1365.6251 (pause 0.60) 1366.2249 1318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1366.2249 and that's where /RD-NAME-2/ really 1368.3343 1319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1368.3343 (pause 0.78) 1369.1118 1320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1369.1118 blossomed. 1369.8719 1321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1369.8719 (pause 0.49) 1370.3662 1322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1370.3662 And she was 1371.1728 1323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1371.1728 (pause 0.10) 1371.2754 1324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1371.2754 strong. She was tall, pretty young lady, and 1373.8354 1325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1373.8354 (pause 0.85) 1374.6887 1326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1374.6887 he didn't like her at first. 1375.9185 1327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1375.9185 (pause 0.51) 1376.4314 1328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1376.4314 And then sh- she kind of didn't like him. 1378.1800 1329 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1378.1800 (pause 0.45) 1378.6277 1330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1378.6277 And so you know, me, I'm up- I was always up there, you know. /His- didn't think some-/ He'd come home, /he didn't like-/ oh, I was up there uh, getting it straight. 1385.2012 1331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1385.2012 (pause 0.13) 1385.3318 1332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1385.3318 You know, I don't mess with my child. I know. 1386.8554 1333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1386.8554 (pause 0.48) 1387.3357 1334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1387.3357 1387.8719 1335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1387.8719 (pause 0.36) 1388.2356 1336 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1388.2356 So I went up there, and she wanted him 1390.3945 1337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1390.3945 (pause 0.48) 1390.8795 1338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1390.8795 um, 1391.2898 1339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1391.2898 (pause 0.83) 1392.1245 1340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1392.1245 to study for- 1393.3520 1341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1393.3520 (pause 0.18) 1393.5362 1342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1393.5362 to- or to learn how to do the Martin Luther King speech 1396.3292 1343 DCB_int_01 1396.4971 [Mm-hm.] 1396.9820 1344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1396.6836 [for] 1397.0333 1345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1397.6349 the 1397.9100 1346 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1397.9100 (pause 0.13) 1398.0405 1347 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1398.0405 um, celebration that year. 1399.7282 1348 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1399.7282 (pause 0.82) 1400.5527 1349 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1400.5527 And they bumped heads so much, and h- you know, well he studied and everything, and h- 1405.4056 1350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1405.4056 (pause 0.16) 1405.5641 1351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1405.5641 he studied them lines and he got up there and 1407.8023 1352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1407.8023 (pause 0.54) 1408.3386 1353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1408.3386 killed it. 1409.4530 1354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1409.4530 (pause 0.15) 1409.6022 1355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1409.6022 I mean he was just 1410.4695 1356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1410.4695 (pause 0.48) 1410.9533 1357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1410.9533 so good. He- he j- He was a little short thing. 1413.3547 1358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1413.3547 (pause 0.55) 1413.9003 1359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1413.9003 And uh, they had to stand him on a box at the podium cause he's so short. 1417.9838 1360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1417.9838 (pause 0.74) 1418.7205 1361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1418.7205 And so the- 1419.2801 1362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1419.2801 (pause 0.10) 1419.3780 1363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1419.3780 the auditorium was full of people. You know, how in between things they talk a little bit, 1423.1596 1364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1423.1596 (pause 0.43) 1423.5921 1365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1423.5921 so he s- 1424.1330 1366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1424.1330 (pause 0.11) 1424.2449 1367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1424.2449 got up 1424.5713 1368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1424.5713 (pause 0.10) 1424.6739 1369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1424.6739 there, 1425.0516 1370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1425.0516 (pause 0.21) 1425.2614 1371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1425.2614 ps- just got up on the box, 1426.5484 1372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1426.5484 (pause 0.69) 1427.2385 1373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1427.2385 put his hands on the podium like this, and just looked. 1429.7600 1374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1429.7600 (pause 0.96) 1430.7205 1375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1430.7205 It's like, 1431.1169 1376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1431.1169 (pause 0.14) 1431.2614 1377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1431.2614 you know, he was the king up here. y'all better pay attention to me. 1433.9939 1378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1433.9939 (pause 1.03) 1435.0279 1379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1435.0279 And he waited 1435.7413 1380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1435.7413 (pause 0.25) 1435.9885 1381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1435.9885 a lo- I know a good minute, 1437.6205 1382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1437.6205 (pause 0.18) 1437.8023 1383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1437.8023 good- maybe a good minute and a half. 1439.2292 1384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1439.2292 (pause 0.52) 1439.7468 1385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1439.7468 And people started, you know, what's going on? And they saw him sitting there, so they got quiet, then he started out. 1444.1241 1386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1444.1241 (pause 0.43) 1444.5531 1387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1444.5531 I say today my friends and you know, he started that speech. 1448.6221 1388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1448.6221 (pause 0.81) 1449.4340 1389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1449.4340 And he- 1450.2546 1390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1450.2546 (pause 0.17) 1450.4272 1391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1450.4272 Oh man. It was awesome. 1452.3529 1392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1452.3529 (pause 0.12) 1452.4695 1393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1452.4695 It was so good. 1453.4042 1394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1453.4042 (pause 0.58) 1453.9885 1395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1453.9885 He didn't miss a word, 1455.0842 1396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1455.0842 (pause 0.11) 1455.1962 1397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1455.1962 inflections, everything. It was perfect. 1457.1219 1398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1457.1219 (pause 0.99) 1458.1105 1399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1458.1105 So 1458.6187 1400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1458.6187 (pause 0.30) 1458.9207 1401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1458.9207 that j- got him going, so then, 1460.6090 1402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1460.6090 (pause 0.70) 1461.3081 1403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1461.3081 from there, he did 1462.2453 1404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1462.2453 (pause 0.16) 1462.4085 1405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1462.4085 speeches at 1463.1919 1406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1463.1919 (pause 0.20) 1463.3877 1407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1463.3877 churches, at 1464.2131 1408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1464.2131 (pause 0.13) 1464.3436 1409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1464.3436 other schools in the d- in the system, w- 1466.7112 1410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1466.7112 (pause 0.15) 1466.8604 1411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1466.8604 called him, wanted him to do the speech. He just- 1468.9867 1412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1468.9867 (pause 0.61) 1469.5975 1413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1469.5975 everywhere, a church, at different churches, not just our church, but different churches. And 1474.2173 1414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1474.2173 (pause 0.86) 1475.0800 1415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1475.0800 so 1475.5183 1416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1475.5183 (pause 0.17) 1475.6861 1417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1475.6861 that really got him um, 1477.1550 1418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1477.1550 (pause 0.27) 1477.4289 1419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1477.4289 I think on his way to public speaking. 1479.4473 1420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1479.4473 (pause 0.08) 1479.5319 1421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1479.5319 You know, and he 1480.4878 1422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1480.4878 (pause 0.55) 1481.0427 1423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1481.0427 was not afraid. He wasn't nervous. He would get up there, and he wouldn't forget anything, and 1485.2288 1424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1485.2288 (pause 0.78) 1486.0075 1425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1486.0075 I was just so proud of him. And I, 1487.6022 1426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1487.6022 (pause 0.20) 1487.8027 1427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1487.8027 you know- And I was a kind of 1489.0011 1428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1489.0011 (pause 0.18) 1489.1771 1429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1489.1771 mother, I didn't miss 1490.5247 1430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1490.5247 (pause 0.26) 1490.7812 1431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1490.7812 anything. 1491.3594 1432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1491.3594 (pause 0.12) 1491.4759 1433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1491.4759 And whatever he had to do, 1492.8748 1434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1492.8748 (pause 0.69) 1493.5649 1435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1493.5649 I made time to go 1494.6560 1436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1494.6560 (pause 0.10) 1494.7586 1437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1494.7586 w- be with him and 1496.1330 1438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1496.1330 (pause 0.51) 1496.6459 1439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1496.6459 I- 1496.8884 1440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1496.8884 (pause 0.10) 1496.9863 1441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1496.9863 I- 1497.2847 1442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1497.2847 (pause 0.12) 1497.4060 1443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1497.4060 I don't regret 1498.0215 1444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1498.0215 (pause 0.39) 1498.4085 1445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1498.4085 not one [minute.] 1499.5043 1446 DCB_int_01 1499.0380 [So] let's go back 1500.1851 1447 DCB_int_01 1500.3016 because we kind of skipped um, 1502.0398 1448 DCB_int_01 1502.0398 (pause 2.25) 1504.2873 1449 DCB_int_01 1504.2873 you know, 1504.8002 1450 DCB_int_01 1504.8002 (pause 0.36) 1505.1592 1451 DCB_int_01 1505.1592 how you got have /RD-NAME-2/. Like, 1506.8565 1452 DCB_int_01 1506.8565 (pause 0.41) 1507.2657 1453 DCB_int_01 1507.2657 cause we skipped from 1508.2870 1454 DCB_int_01 1508.2870 (pause 0.11) 1508.3941 1455 DCB_int_01 1508.3941 I think junior high, 1509.6112 1456 DCB_int_01 1509.6112 (pause 0.50) 1510.1101 1457 DCB_int_01 1510.1101 [and your friend] /RD-NAME-3/, [and we went] to church and- 1512.8144 1458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1510.1147 [Mm.] 1510.6230 1459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1510.6230 (pause 0.79) 1511.4157 1460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1511.4157 [Mm-hm.] 1512.0125 1461 DCB_int_01 1512.9580 and then [we] 1513.3823 1462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1513.2797 [Oh], okay. 1513.9185 1463 DCB_int_01 1514.0677 started- So, 1514.8698 1464 DCB_int_01 1514.8698 (pause 0.21) 1515.0842 1465 DCB_int_01 1515.0842 let's go back to high school. 1516.2686 1466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1516.4132 Okay. 1516.9960 1467 DCB_int_01 1517.9519 You went to /RD-NAME-2/, and did [you-] 1518.9900 1468 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1518.8227 [Went] to [/RD-SCHOOL-2/.] 1519.6807 1469 DCB_int_01 1519.1305 [and did you] like it? 1520.0351 1470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1520.2822 [Oh yes.] 1520.9583 1471 DCB_int_01 1520.3335 [What was your favorite] subject? [Who was your favorite teacher] if you [remember?] 1523.6022 1472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1521.7510 [I enjoyed it.] 1522.8188 1473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1522.8188 (pause 0.50) 1523.3178 1474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1523.3178 [Uh-huh.] 1523.8493 1475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1524.6980 Um, 1525.2669 1476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1525.2669 (pause 2.17) 1527.4340 1477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1527.4340 My home room teacher was named /RD-NAME-5/, and I can see her now. She was 1531.4814 1478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1531.4814 (pause 0.65) 1532.1284 1479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1532.1284 nice young lady, had- 1533.0190 1480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1533.0190 (pause 0.28) 1533.2941 1481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1533.2941 wore hair straight, and 1534.4551 1482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1534.4551 (pause 0.16) 1534.6137 1483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1534.6137 she had big eyes. 1535.8960 1484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1535.8960 (pause 0.59) 1536.4882 1485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1536.4882 And uh, sh- 1537.2293 1486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1537.2293 (pause 0.07) 1537.2984 1487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1537.2984 I had her- She was my home room teacher all the way though high school. 1540.2033 1488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1540.2033 (pause 0.49) 1540.6976 1489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1540.6976 Mm, 1541.0333 1490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1541.0333 (pause 0.14) 1541.1732 1491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1541.1732 just /something/ I don't know how they did that, but that's how that happened. 1543.7273 1492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1543.7273 (pause 0.55) 1544.2729 1493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1544.2729 But um, 1544.8278 1494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1544.8278 (pause 0.60) 1545.4246 1495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1545.4246 my favorite s- 1546.0961 1496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1546.0961 (pause 0.12) 1546.2173 1497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1546.2173 I w- I was kind of leaning toward business so I- I took um- 1549.5140 1498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1549.5140 (pause 0.45) 1549.9651 1499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1549.9651 I was really good at English and um- 1551.9515 1500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1551.9515 (pause 1.54) 1553.4903 1501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1553.4903 I w- did pretty good at Math too. 1554.9824 1502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1554.9824 (pause 0.44) 1555.4243 1503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1555.4243 /Though but/ my favorite subject was En- 1557.0703 1504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1557.0703 (pause 0.13) 1557.2008 1505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1557.2008 English. 1557.7231 1506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1557.7231 (pause 0.74) 1558.4645 1507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1558.4645 And then uh, I got- 1560.0312 1508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1560.0312 (pause 0.12) 1560.1478 1509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1560.1478 /towards/- sometimes um, 1561.4336 1510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1561.4336 (pause 0.62) 1562.0584 1511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1562.0584 after my first year, I w- 1563.2801 1512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1563.2801 (pause 0.14) 1563.4246 1513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1563.4246 I got into the um, 1564.5857 1514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1564.5857 (pause 0.41) 1564.9914 1515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1564.9914 typing and 1565.8447 1516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1565.8447 (pause 0.18) 1566.0265 1517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1566.0265 you know, all the stuff that could lead me into a 1568.0258 1518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1568.0258 (pause 0.38) 1568.4035 1519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1568.4035 business 1568.8698 1520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1568.8698 (pause 0.84) 1569.7091 1521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1569.7091 [career.] 1570.1334 1522 DCB_int_01 1569.9935 [Mm-hm.] 1570.4038 1523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1570.6370 Mm-hm. 1571.0940 1524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1571.0940 (pause 0.86) 1571.9519 1525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1571.9519 And uh, 1572.8565 1526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1572.8565 (pause 0.09) 1572.9486 1527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1572.9486 I was part of the um- 1574.6692 1528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1574.6692 (pause 0.70) 1575.3733 1529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1575.3733 the 1575.5645 1530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1575.5645 (pause 0.48) 1576.0401 1531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1576.0401 cheer- Uh, what was it called? 1577.2385 1532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1577.2385 (pause 2.40) 1579.6434 1533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1579.6434 The Pep Club. 1580.3195 1534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1580.3195 (pause 0.36) 1580.6786 1535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1580.6786 I was president of the Pep Club, 1582.1567 1536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1582.1567 (pause 0.12) 1582.2779 1537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1582.2779 so we had the games and all, and we /would just/- 1584.3296 1538 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1584.3296 (pause 0.14) 1584.4742 1539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1584.4742 you know, be out there 1585.2715 1540 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1585.2715 (pause 0.35) 1585.6248 1541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1585.6248 doing our things. 1586.4408 1542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1586.4408 (pause 0.53) 1586.9723 1543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1586.9723 Um, 1587.3594 1544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1587.3594 (pause 0.55) 1587.9142 1545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1587.9142 I liked Chemistry, and I loved my Chemistry teacher. 1590.6141 1546 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1590.6141 (pause 0.72) 1591.3310 1547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1591.3310 Her name was uh, 1592.2263 1548 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1592.2263 (pause 0.64) 1592.8698 1549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1592.8698 Miss /RD-NAME-3/. 1593.6578 1550 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1593.6578 (pause 0.61) 1594.2640 1551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1594.2640 She like a fashion model, tall pretty lady. 1596.5628 1552 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1596.5628 (pause 0.23) 1596.7959 1553 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1596.7959 She was very sweet 1597.8952 1554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1597.8952 (pause 0.10) 1597.9931 1555 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1597.9931 and very kind and 1599.1169 1556 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1599.1169 (pause 0.72) 1599.8350 1557 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1599.8350 I did well in Chemistry. I liked- 1601.6628 1558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1601.6628 (pause 0.26) 1601.9193 1559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1601.9193 I like Chemistry. 1603.0057 1560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1603.0057 (pause 0.27) 1603.2750 1561 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1603.2750 I like Science too /earlier/. 1604.8418 1562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1604.8418 (pause 0.41) 1605.2521 1563 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1605.2521 That's been a good subject for me, 1606.6463 1564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1606.6463 (pause 0.20) 1606.8468 1565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1606.8468 did pretty good in /there/. 1607.9659 1566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1607.9659 (pause 0.69) 1608.6514 1567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1608.6514 And um, 1609.2296 1568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1609.2296 (pause 1.16) 1610.3941 1569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1610.3941 /My um-/ 1610.7672 1570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1610.7672 (pause 0.18) 1610.9444 1571 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1610.9444 1611.3221 1572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1611.3221 (pause 0.40) 1611.7231 1573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1611.7231 I was not among- 1612.7256 1574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1612.7256 (pause 0.17) 1612.8935 1575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1612.8935 I was not one of the pretty girls. I always had 1614.9964 1576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1614.9964 (pause 0.72) 1615.7134 1577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1615.7134 a issue with weight. 1616.9350 1578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1616.9350 (pause 0.37) 1617.3034 1579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1617.3034 My weight 1617.6997 1580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1617.6997 (pause 0.14) 1617.8350 1581 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1617.8350 and I was short, 1618.8002 1582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1618.8002 (pause 0.81) 1619.6115 1583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1619.6115 but 1619.8680 1584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1619.8680 (pause 0.41) 1620.2737 1585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1620.2737 my personality was so- 1621.8299 1586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1621.8299 (pause 0.17) 1621.9978 1587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1621.9978 I was always included in the- 1623.4713 1588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1623.4713 (pause 0.21) 1623.6811 1589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1623.6811 in the in crowd. If you wanna call it that, the in crowd. 1627.2051 1590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1627.2051 (pause 0.48) 1627.6807 1591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1627.6807 And so, I was u- I was really popular, 1629.8256 1592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1629.8256 (pause 0.22) 1630.0448 1593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1630.0448 and I would have th- little parties. 1631.9100 1594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1631.9100 (pause 0.41) 1632.3156 1595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1632.3156 Um, 1632.7353 1596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1632.7353 (pause 1.31) 1634.0444 1597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1634.0444 when um- 1634.8371 1598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1634.8371 (pause 0.60) 1635.4386 1599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1635.4386 /What was it-/ we lived on um- 1636.8328 1600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1636.8328 (pause 0.60) 1637.4297 1601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1637.4297 Mm- 1637.6162 1602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1637.6162 (pause 0.07) 1637.6861 1603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1637.6861 When I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, we lived on Ninth Street, 1639.8999 1604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1639.8999 (pause 0.79) 1640.6926 1605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1640.6926 right down- right next door to Shiloh. 1642.6463 1606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1642.6463 (pause 0.57) 1643.2199 1607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1643.2199 They- 1643.4390 1608 DCB_int_01 1643.4437 [Oh.] 1643.8214 1609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1643.6069 [Shiloh] owns some of those row houses there, 1645.7786 1610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1646.3801 and so- 1646.9841 1611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1646.9841 (pause 0.76) 1647.7464 1612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1647.7464 Before we got there, now I got to back track, my mother married 1650.7027 1613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1650.7027 (pause 0.40) 1651.0990 1614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1651.0990 my stepfather, 1651.9838 1615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1651.9838 (pause 0.11) 1652.0957 1616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.0957 1652.3242 1617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.3242 (pause 0.30) 1652.6273 1618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.6273 /RD-NAME-4/, that was his name. 1654.2033 1619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1654.2033 (pause 0.53) 1654.7349 1620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1654.7349 And he lived in one of those homes, and so 1656.6654 1621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1656.6654 (pause 0.16) 1656.8239 1622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1656.8239 that's where we moved to. 1657.8766 1623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1657.8766 (pause 0.93) 1658.8091 1624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1658.8091 And I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ there, so I used to walk up, 1660.8748 1625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1660.8748 (pause 0.75) 1661.6209 1626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1661.6209 um- 1662.0778 1627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1662.0778 (pause 1.02) 1663.0978 1628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1663.0978 What was that street? 1663.7180 1629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1663.7180 (pause 0.27) 1663.9838 1630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1663.9838 Thirteenth Street, 1664.7065 1631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1664.7065 (pause 0.78) 1665.4853 1632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1665.4853 Northwest, 1666.3607 1633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1666.3607 (pause 0.06) 1666.4178 1634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1666.4178 yeah, 1666.7209 1635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1666.7209 (pause 0.56) 1667.2805 1636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1667.2805 and walk up that hill to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1669.0925 1637 DCB_int_01 1669.2144 [Mm-hm.] 1670.1890 1638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1669.6108 [And uh-] 1670.1843 1639 DCB_int_01 1670.2589 [That's a big] old [hill. Oh my goodness.] 1672.8235 1640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1670.3428 [] 1670.6040 1641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1670.6040 (pause 0.41) 1671.0190 1642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1671.0190 [The- big old hill. Yup.] 1672.7676 1643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1673.6069 Yup, s- and so uh, 1675.2109 1644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1675.2109 (pause 0.20) 1675.4103 1645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1675.4103 Yeah, I really liked 1676.3382 1646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1676.3382 (pause 0.10) 1676.4408 1647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1676.4408 going to that school. And I made good friends in the neighborhood. I had a 1679.7747 1648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1679.7747 (pause 0.41) 1680.1851 1649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1680.1851 real close friend around the corner and- 1682.1004 1650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1682.1004 (pause 0.77) 1682.8698 1651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1682.8698 and um, 1683.5552 1652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1683.5552 (pause 0.31) 1683.8629 1653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1683.8629 we used to walk together, it'd be about six of us walk- 1686.1338 1654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1686.1338 (pause 0.10) 1686.2364 1655 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1686.2364 we'd walk up that hill. 1687.2296 1656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1687.2296 (pause 0.62) 1687.8532 1657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1687.8532 And um, 1688.6273 1658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1688.6273 (pause 0.98) 1689.6065 1659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1689.6065 those were- those were good years, so I was- 1691.3644 1660 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1691.3644 (pause 0.28) 1691.6395 1661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1691.6395 And I would have- Oh I was gonna say, I would have 1693.7600 1662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1693.7600 (pause 0.55) 1694.3102 1663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1694.3102 little parties. Now we li- The place we lived was a little apartment, and I mean it was little. It was just 1698.6141 1664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1698.6141 (pause 0.10) 1698.7166 1665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1698.7166 like, me, my mother, my st- 1699.8719 1666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1699.8719 (pause 0.21) 1700.0817 1667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1700.0817 and my stepfather. 1700.9404 1668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1700.9404 (pause 1.06) 1701.9982 1669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1701.9982 And I would have parties in that place, and it would be like, 1704.5674 1670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1704.5674 (pause 0.21) 1704.7761 1671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1704.7761 thirty kids in- /packed up/ in this little apartment. (laughing) 1708.0168 1672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1708.0168 (pause 0.38) 1708.3992 1673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1708.3992 And we would have a ball, and my stepfather, he would 1710.8612 1674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1710.8612 (pause 0.12) 1710.9766 1675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1710.9766 be just as tickled cause I was home. 1712.7578 1676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1712.7578 (pause 0.24) 1712.9956 1677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1712.9956 I was doing w- You know, doing it- 1714.4225 1678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1714.4225 (pause 0.32) 1714.7442 1679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1714.7442 Well I was there doing it, 1715.7141 1680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1715.7141 (pause 0.50) 1716.2131 1681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1716.2131 wasn't out in the streets somewhere he didn't know where I was, so it- 1718.7112 1682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1718.7112 (pause 0.32) 1719.0330 1683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1719.0330 He would be happy about that. 1720.3526 1684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1720.3526 (pause 0.65) 1721.0007 1685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1721.0007 But we'd have fun, and so 1722.6840 1686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1722.6840 (pause 0.39) 1723.0699 1687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1723.0699 I was uh- When I think back on it, I say oh, 1725.2894 1688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1725.2894 (pause 0.14) 1725.4246 1689 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1725.4246 that's funny how I was 1726.6323 1690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1726.6323 (pause 0.30) 1726.9308 1691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1726.9308 a part of the in crowd, but 1728.3285 1692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1728.3285 (pause 0.23) 1728.5616 1693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1728.5616 I wasn't the girlfriend type 1730.0957 1694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1730.0957 (pause 0.16) 1730.2542 1695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1730.2542 that the guys would be after, you know. 1731.8117 1696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1731.8117 (pause 0.45) 1732.2593 1697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1732.2593 But 1732.4738 1698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1732.4738 (pause 0.15) 1732.6230 1699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1732.6230 that was cool too. 1733.3084 1700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1733.3084 (pause 0.16) 1733.4716 1701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1733.4716 1734.1478 1702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1734.1478 (pause 0.35) 1734.4928 1703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1734.4928 1735.5222 1704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1735.5222 (pause 0.59) 1736.1144 1705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1736.1144 So uh, I did well. Like I said, I got /the/ 1738.8375 1706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1738.8375 (pause 0.10) 1738.9354 1707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1738.9354 school letters, 1740.0674 1708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1740.0674 (pause 0.13) 1740.1991 1709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1740.1991 you know, um, 1741.0291 1710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1741.0291 (pause 0.69) 1741.7180 1711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1741.7180 for- 1742.0211 1712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1742.0211 (pause 0.13) 1742.1470 1713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1742.1470 for participating in different things and 1744.4106 1714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1744.4106 (pause 0.11) 1744.5158 1715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1744.5158 certificates and 1745.7188 1716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1745.7188 (pause 1.22) 1746.9358 1717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1746.9358 I did okay in high school. 1748.3662 1718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1748.3662 (pause 1.70) 1750.0681 1719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1750.0681 I was in the Glee Club. I was 1751.9053 1720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1751.9053 (pause 1.36) 1753.2611 1721 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1753.2611 uh, 1753.7600 1722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1753.7600 (pause 0.16) 1753.9232 1723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1753.9232 [pep ra-] 1754.4734 1724 DCB_int_01 1753.9605 [And at that point], you were 1755.2101 1725 DCB_int_01 1755.3500 with the Uniques, right? 1756.5531 1726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1756.6137 [Yeah, with the Uniques in- in high school], yeah. 1758.9171 1727 DCB_int_01 1756.7442 [/You were with the Uniques/ in high school, okay.] 1758.4882 1728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1758.9906 Cause we started there- When I went to Shiloh, I was fourteen, 1761.9422 1729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1761.9422 (pause 0.82) 1762.7582 1730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1762.7582 and 1763.3318 1731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1763.3318 (pause 1.23) 1764.5570 1732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1764.5570 I think we got together when- uh- two years after that, 1767.3733 1733 DCB_int_01 1767.6904 Uh-huh. 1767.9655 1734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1767.9702 and so we- Like I say, we were together for like, fourteen years. 1771.1145 1735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1771.1145 (pause 0.73) 1771.8439 1736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1771.8439 And um, 1772.4221 1737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1772.4221 (pause 1.22) 1773.6391 1738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1773.6391 we traveled- We went around the city doing a lot of singing. We got hooked up with some other 1777.8766 1739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1777.8766 (pause 0.11) 1777.9885 1740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1777.9885 groups 1778.4314 1741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1778.4314 (pause 0.41) 1778.8371 1742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1778.8371 that was singing and 1779.8350 1743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1779.8350 (pause 0.58) 1780.4132 1744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1780.4132 we had a little name. W- People [kn-] 1782.7260 1745 DCB_int_01 1782.4462 [People] knew [you.] 1783.2622 1746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1783.0244 [Uh-hm.] [Mm-hm.] We- 1784.3475 1747 DCB_int_01 1783.5175 [/Inaudible./] 1783.9045 1748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1784.8138 we re- did really well and uh, 1786.5111 1749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1786.5111 (pause 0.96) 1787.4716 1750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1787.4716 we just all grew up and everybody went their different ways. Some uh, got married. 1791.4899 1751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1791.4899 (pause 0.61) 1792.0961 1752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1792.0961 Um, 1792.4924 1753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1792.4924 (pause 0.68) 1793.1732 1754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1793.1732 I got married- 1794.0125 1755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1794.0125 (pause 0.37) 1794.3856 1756 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1794.3856 When did I get married? In nineteen seventy eight. 1797.1355 1757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1797.1355 (pause 1.11) 1798.2500 1758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1798.2500 Ten years after my graduation. 1799.8953 1759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1799.8953 (pause 0.33) 1800.2270 1760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1800.2270 1800.4882 1761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1800.4882 (pause 0.86) 1801.3450 1762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1801.3450 And I married uh, 1802.6116 1763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1802.6116 (pause 0.32) 1802.9304 1764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1802.9304 my husband /RD-NAME-2/. 1804.4785 1765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1804.4785 (pause 0.08) 1804.5577 1766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1804.5577 1804.8515 1767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1804.8515 (pause 0.78) 1805.6346 1768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1805.6346 So we were married thirty seven years, 1807.7553 1769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1807.7553 (pause 1.11) 1808.8604 1770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1808.8604 and uh, 1809.6718 1771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1809.6718 (pause 0.41) 1810.0774 1772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1810.0774 two years after we got married, 1811.5836 1773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1811.5836 (pause 0.83) 1812.4182 1774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1812.4182 we had /RD-NAME-2/. 1813.1829 1775 DCB_int_01 1813.1864 Wow. 1813.6481 1776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1815.0656 And [uh-] 1815.7557 1777 DCB_int_01 1815.4200 [So you're] still married? 1816.5810 1778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1816.8888 Huh? Still married. 1818.0825 1779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1818.0825 (pause 0.24) 1818.3238 1780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1818.3238 Yeah. 1819.9139 1781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1819.9139 (pause 0.98) 1820.8931 1782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1820.8931 And uh, 1821.5972 1783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1821.5972 (pause 0.52) 1822.1147 1784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1822.1147 I had /RD-NAME-2/ at 1823.1639 1785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1823.1639 (pause 0.21) 1823.3691 1786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1823.3691 Sibley Hospital. 1824.3623 1787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1824.3623 (pause 0.40) 1824.7586 1788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1824.7586 I'll never forget. I had a 1825.7740 1789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1825.7740 (pause 0.44) 1826.2123 1790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1826.2123 wonderful doctor. 1827.2521 1791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1827.2521 (pause 0.18) 1827.4293 1792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1827.4293 1827.8303 1793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1827.8303 (pause 0.69) 1828.5204 1794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1828.5204 And uh, I had /RD-NAME-2/ by C section, so I w- 1831.6434 1795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1831.6434 (pause 0.37) 1832.0118 1796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1832.0118 I was in there for a little while. I had a little- 1833.7417 1797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1833.7417 (pause 0.14) 1833.8769 1798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1833.8769 complications. 1834.8468 1799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1834.8468 (pause 0.24) 1835.0893 1800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1835.0893 I was in there for awhile, but 1836.1011 1801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1836.1011 (pause 0.88) 1836.9859 1802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1836.9859 he was a g- And we came on home. He was a good baby. 1839.9655 1803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1839.9655 (pause 0.17) 1840.1334 1804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1840.1334 1840.8328 1805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1840.8328 (pause 0.19) 1841.0193 1806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1841.0193 Didn't have m- 1841.4577 1807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1841.4577 (pause 0.38) 1841.8354 1808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1841.8354 problems with him. 1842.7213 1809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1842.7213 (pause 0.81) 1843.5315 1810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1843.5315 I remember one- one thing. I was- 1845.3827 1811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1845.3827 (pause 0.38) 1845.7650 1812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1845.7650 we were sitting in a rocking chair in his room 1847.7747 1813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1847.7747 (pause 0.73) 1848.5068 1814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1848.5068 n- after I fed him and stuff was- 1850.2216 1815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1850.2216 (pause 0.31) 1850.5294 1816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1850.5294 I used to talk to him a lot. I talked to him 1852.4085 1817 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1852.4085 (pause 0.47) 1852.8795 1818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1852.8795 b- before I had him. 1853.9006 1819 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1853.9006 (pause 0.31) 1854.2084 1820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1854.2084 You know, I'd sing to him, 1855.3457 1821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1855.3457 (pause 0.08) 1855.4289 1822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1855.4289 talk to him. 1855.9139 1823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1855.9139 (pause 0.69) 1856.6086 1824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1856.6086 So we- 1857.1029 1825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1857.1029 (pause 0.11) 1857.2148 1826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1857.2148 This night- particular night, I was talking and he was just looking at me. 1860.5628 1827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1860.5628 (pause 0.25) 1860.8099 1828 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1860.8099 I was like, why is he looking at me like that? 1862.7672 1829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1862.7672 (pause 0.67) 1863.4386 1830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1863.4386 And for about- 1864.2313 1831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1864.2313 (pause 1.12) 1865.3504 1832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1865.3504 about fifteen minutes or so, 1866.9358 1833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1866.9358 (pause 0.41) 1867.3496 1834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1867.3496 that boy just stared at me. 1868.6692 1835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1868.6692 (pause 0.91) 1869.5832 1836 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1869.5832 I got a little nervous. I didn't why- I- or what that [was about.] 1872.8286 1837 DCB_int_01 1872.1851 [] 1872.9032 1838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1873.3730 He finally stopped, but he did that. I- I've never forget that. 1876.8002 1839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1876.8002 (pause 0.12) 1876.9214 1840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1876.9214 I was just holding him in my arm. 1878.5068 1841 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1878.5068 (pause 1.61) 1880.1190 1842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1880.1190 1880.2403 1843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1880.2403 (pause 0.36) 1880.6040 1844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1880.6040 So but- 1881.0516 1845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1881.0516 (pause 0.18) 1881.2335 1846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1881.2335 And I never knew what that was about, but I never forget 1883.8027 1847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1883.8027 (pause 0.10) 1883.9053 1848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1883.9053 that happened (laughing). 1885.0430 1849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1885.0430 (pause 0.77) 1885.8113 1850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1885.8113 But we've always been 1886.9723 1851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1886.9723 (pause 1.09) 1888.0635 1852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1888.0635 [uh, super close.] 1889.6815