Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 0.3908 Went to pick my medicine up, and they got it all mixed up and now they don't wanna fix it. 4.4091 2 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 4.4091 (pause 0.37) 4.7821 3 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 4.7821 5.1225 4 DCB_int_01 5.1038 Oh. 5.7520 5 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 6.5493 6.9224 6 DCB_int_01 9.2802 I know- My daughter was really sick 10.7821 7 DCB_int_01 10.7821 (pause 0.30) 11.0805 8 DCB_int_01 11.0805 so 11.5095 9 DCB_int_01 11.5095 (pause 0.54) 12.0458 10 DCB_int_01 12.0458 we had a lot of- When she was real little, 13.9740 11 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 14.2455 [Mm-hm.] 14.6605 12 DCB_int_01 14.4880 [we] had a lot- 15.2060 13 DCB_int_01 15.4905 I think at one point she was like on ten different medicines [/I think/] 18.0084 14 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 17.7333 [Mm.] 18.0691 15 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 18.4374 [Goodness.] 19.0250 16 DCB_int_01 18.8011 /[to try] to/- 19.3420 17 DCB_int_01 19.8445 She 20.0077 18 DCB_int_01 20.0077 (pause 0.15) 20.1569 19 DCB_int_01 20.1569 was only this big. They're tryna 21.4951 20 DCB_int_01 21.4951 (pause 0.37) 21.8635 21 DCB_int_01 21.8635 manage all that and- 22.9406 22 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 22.9173 Mm-hm. 23.4116 23 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 23.6960 Mm. 23.9012 24 DCB_int_01 24.0504 and 24.3115 25 DCB_int_01 24.3115 (pause 0.20) 24.5120 26 DCB_int_01 24.5120 do all that. /But and so/ I under- I know how it is. /[I really know] how it is/. 28.1759 27 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 27.0522 [I tell you-] 27.8309 28 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 27.8309 (pause 0.27) 28.1013 29 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 28.1013 I'll tell you. 28.7728 30 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 29.6494 Mm. 29.8406 31 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 29.8406 (pause 0.91) 30.7498 32 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 30.7498 Well he's a big help to me so 32.2968 33 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 32.2968 (pause 0.12) 32.4180 34 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 32.4180 cause he brought the medicine home, 33.9381 35 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 33.9381 (pause 0.13) 34.0687 36 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 34.0687 and they mess up. He just went back 35.5935 37 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 35.5935 (pause 0.58) 36.1763 38 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 36.1763 to try to get it fixed and they still don't wanna do it 38.4180 39 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 38.4180 (pause 0.53) 38.9496 40 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 38.9496 [right.] 39.2154 41 DCB_int_01 38.9496 [So did] you meet him here? I mean did you meet him- 41.1505 42 DCB_int_01 41.4023 H- how did you meet? 42.2090 43 DCB_int_01 42.2090 (pause 0.23) 42.4374 44 DCB_int_01 42.4374 How did you meet your husband? 43.2628 45 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 43.5321 Okay, um, 44.3107 46 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 44.3107 (pause 0.25) 44.5579 47 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 44.5579 44.9449 48 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 44.9449 (pause 0.37) 45.3133 49 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 45.3133 let's see. 45.6257 50 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 45.6257 (pause 1.54) 47.1645 51 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 47.1645 One of the girls in the group that I- 48.7592 52 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 48.7592 (pause 0.21) 48.9737 53 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 48.9737 that sing w- in the Uniques, 50.1662 54 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 50.1662 (pause 0.12) 50.2875 55 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 50.2875 her mother, 51.0568 56 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 51.0568 (pause 0.97) 52.0314 57 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 52.0314 her name was Ms /RD-NAME-2/. 53.3556 58 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 53.3556 (pause 0.16) 53.5188 59 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 53.5188 At the time, she /?/ our mothers, 55.7524 60 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 55.7524 (pause 0.53) 56.2781 61 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 56.2781 and 56.7025 62 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 56.7025 (pause 0.83) 57.5278 63 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 57.5278 a friend of hers that she worked with 59.1878 64 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 59.1878 (pause 0.07) 59.2624 65 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 59.2624 was getting married. 60.0784 66 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 60.0784 (pause 0.58) 60.6566 67 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 60.6566 And so they wanted- She um- 62.2500 68 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 62.2500 (pause 0.61) 62.8610 69 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 62.8610 she needed somebody to sing, 64.0034 70 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 64.0034 (pause 0.27) 64.2692 71 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 64.2692 so 64.6096 72 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 64.6096 (pause 0.32) 64.9313 73 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 64.9313 Ms /RD-NAME-2/ told her about me. 66.4095 74 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 66.4095 (pause 0.84) 67.2488 75 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 67.2488 And so um, 68.1289 76 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 68.1289 (pause 2.14) 70.2645 77 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 70.2645 I s- I sang at their wedding, 72.0551 78 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 72.0551 (pause 0.19) 72.2463 79 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 72.2463 at this lady's wedding. 73.3793 80 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 73.3793 (pause 0.17) 73.5461 81 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 73.5461 73.9715 82 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 73.9715 (pause 0.43) 74.4040 83 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 74.4040 And Ms /RD-NAME-2/- 75.4718 84 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 75.4718 (pause 0.35) 75.8262 85 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 75.8262 Oh it was- Her name's /RD-NAME-2/ now, but at the time it was Ms /RD-NAME-2/. 78.5074 86 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 78.5074 (pause 0.50) 79.0063 87 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 79.0063 And she uh, was telling me- 80.6838 88 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 80.6838 (pause 0.76) 81.4485 89 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 81.4485 She knew I was available then- 83.2018 90 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 83.2018 (pause 0.74) 83.9432 91 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 83.9432 about uh, 84.8151 92 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 84.8151 (pause 0.24) 85.0529 93 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 85.0529 this 85.3700 94 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 85.3700 (pause 0.26) 85.6300 95 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 85.6300 brother that the 86.4553 96 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 86.4553 (pause 0.11) 86.5626 97 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 86.5626 groom 87.0568 98 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 87.0568 (pause 0.23) 87.2900 99 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 87.2900 to be has, and he was a nice looking young man. So you might be- 90.7592 100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 90.7592 (pause 0.37) 91.1275 101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 91.1275 take a interest. Check him out when you- when you meet him. 93.3506 102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 93.3506 (pause 0.60) 93.9474 103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 93.9474 94.1200 104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 94.1200 (pause 0.75) 94.8660 105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 94.8660 So, 95.6261 106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 95.6261 (pause 0.64) 96.2649 107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 96.2649 w- we had the w- the wedding rehearsal, and then so at that point I didn't even- I sang and everything went okay. 101.3137 108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 101.3137 (pause 0.57) 101.8872 109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 101.8872 And she introduced us, and he was nice. /Unintelligible/. 104.9589 110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 104.9589 (pause 0.26) 105.2154 111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 105.2154 That was it. 105.7283 112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 105.7283 (pause 0.41) 106.1340 113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 106.1340 So we went to the reception, 107.6447 114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 107.6447 (pause 1.25) 108.8944 115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 108.8944 and, 109.2756 116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 109.2756 (pause 0.16) 109.4341 117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 109.4341 instead of him paying me attention, 111.3553 118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 111.3553 (pause 0.34) 111.6956 119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 111.6956 his brother was paying me attention who was /RD-NAME-1/- my husband there /RD-NAME-2/. 115.6078 120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 115.6078 (pause 0.66) 116.2688 121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 116.2688 And we sat across the room eyeballing each other most of the night. 119.8825 122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 119.8825 (pause 0.08) 119.9665 123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 119.9665 Finally he came over and we danced, 122.0182 124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 122.0182 (pause 0.55) 122.5672 125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 122.5672 and then we got to talking and talking talking and 124.7681 126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 124.7681 (pause 0.35) 125.1225 127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 125.1225 the rest of it all from there. 126.2742 128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 126.2742 (pause 0.25) 126.5260 129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 126.5260 126.9597 130 DCB_int_01 127.2430 So when you met or how long before you- how long did y'all- 129.5371 131 DCB_int_01 129.5371 (pause 0.24) 129.7749 132 DCB_int_01 129.7749 did y'all court or date [before you got-] 131.5329 133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 130.9080 [Yeah, we-] 131.4722 134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 131.7193 we dated for f- for like, five years. 133.6545 135 DCB_int_01 133.7664 Oh! 134.2035 136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 134.2502 Mm-hm. 134.8610 137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 134.8610 (pause 0.52) 135.3786 138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 135.3786 And 135.9568 139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 135.9568 (pause 0.38) 136.3345 140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 136.3345 I think he was dragging his feet. 138.0691 141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 138.0691 (pause 0.21) 138.2789 142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 138.2789 138.4141 143 DCB_int_01 138.6286 Mm. 139.0996 144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 139.0902 And so 139.8410 145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 140.4786 by this time, I was 141.8169 146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 141.8169 (pause 0.12) 141.9381 147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 141.9381 twenty eight. 142.4930 148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 142.4930 (pause 1.31) 143.7986 149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 143.7986 Mm-hm. 144.3349 150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 144.3349 (pause 0.87) 145.2022 151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 145.2022 When we got married, I was twenty eight. 146.8050 152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 146.8050 (pause 0.70) 147.5045 153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 147.5045 And I said to him, look, you know, we ain't getting no younger, and I 150.3582 154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 150.3582 (pause 0.14) 150.4981 155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 150.4981 really would like to have a child before I'm thirty or by the time I'm thirty (laughing). 154.3298 156 DCB_int_01 154.2785 Mm-hm. 154.9779 157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 155.1318 And so, what you gonna do? 156.4841 158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 156.4841 (pause 0.98) 157.4668 159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 157.4668 So- Cause we weren't seeing anyone else, so. 159.5313 160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 159.5313 (pause 0.95) 160.4837 161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 160.4837 160.9640 162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 160.9640 (pause 0.37) 161.3323 163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 161.3323 He decided, okay, well we'll do it, so 163.3094 164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 163.3094 (pause 0.27) 163.5798 165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 163.5798 we went on and 164.1207 166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 164.1207 (pause 0.38) 164.5019 167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 164.5019 got married May 165.5651 168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 165.5651 (pause 0.69) 166.2505 169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 166.2505 twenty seventh, nineteen 167.7007 170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 167.7007 (pause 0.20) 167.9012 171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 167.9012 seventy eight. 168.4887 172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 168.4887 (pause 1.88) 170.3667 173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 170.3667 And had a nice wedding at Shiloh and 172.5396 174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 172.5396 (pause 0.89) 173.4256 175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 173.4256 that- 173.5655 176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 173.5655 (pause 0.29) 173.8592 177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 173.8592 uh- 174.1903 178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 174.1903 (pause 0.58) 174.7732 179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 174.7732 that was a kind of church where you opened a wedding up to the whole congregation so. 178.4137 180 DCB_int_01 178.5769 Mm-hm. 179.0479 181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 179.2950 So, 179.6494 182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 179.6494 (pause 0.27) 179.9199 183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 179.9199 it was- it was a very nice wedding. I had 182.2500 184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 182.2500 (pause 0.52) 182.7677 185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 182.7677 my sister and 183.8635 186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 183.8635 (pause 0.50) 184.3624 187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 184.3624 three other young ladies were bridesmaids, 186.6053 188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 186.6053 (pause 0.21) 186.8151 189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 186.8151 and uh- S- 187.3502 190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 187.3502 (pause 0.52) 187.8725 191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 187.8725 So I think- I thought that was a big wedding. That wasn't no big wedding, but I thought it was a big wedding, for me. 192.5120 192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 192.5120 (pause 0.71) 193.2255 193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 193.2255 And so it was real nice. It- it- 194.9916 194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 194.9916 (pause 0.21) 195.2014 195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 195.2014 it had a good number of people, and 197.1645 196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 197.1645 (pause 0.55) 197.7100 197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 197.7100 um, 198.1064 198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 198.1064 (pause 0.15) 198.2602 199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 198.2602 /RD-NAME-2/'s Godmother, 199.5286 200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 199.5286 (pause 0.64) 200.1709 201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 200.1709 she was a caterer, and also she was one of the teachers when I worked at /RD-WORK-2/. 204.4374 202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 204.4374 (pause 0.72) 205.1544 203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 205.1544 So she 205.9797 204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 205.9797 (pause 0.19) 206.1709 205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 206.1709 did- catered the uh, dinner at the church. 208.3158 206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 208.3158 (pause 0.65) 208.9686 207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 208.9686 And so that was very nice, and so 211.0576 208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 211.0576 (pause 0.65) 211.7093 209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 211.7093 Well there was another teacher at the school, 214.0127 210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 214.0127 (pause 0.77) 214.7821 211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 214.7821 who allowed us to have 216.0597 212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 216.0597 (pause 0.20) 216.2602 213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 216.2602 the after- 217.1089 214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 217.1089 (pause 0.50) 217.6125 215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 217.6125 after church 218.3341 216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 218.3341 (pause 0.34) 218.6698 217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 218.6698 party 219.0009 218 DCB_int_01 218.9682 [/Oh/.] 219.4019 219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 219.1175 [at her] house. 219.8449 220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 220.3065 And she lived in Southeast. Her name was um, 222.5012 221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 222.5012 (pause 0.17) 222.6752 222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 222.6752 Miss /RD-NAME-2/, 223.4570 223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 223.4570 (pause 0.50) 223.9564 224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 223.9564 and she's gone now. 224.9044 225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 224.9044 (pause 0.90) 225.8076 226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 225.8076 And uh, 226.4137 227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 226.4137 (pause 0.72) 227.1318 228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 227.1318 so that was nice. That's where we were able- We had it out 229.5125 229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 229.5125 (pause 0.30) 229.8090 230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 229.8090 in her backyard. 230.8144 231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 230.8144 (pause 0.46) 231.2758 232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 231.2758 It was really nice, and 232.4493 233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 232.4493 (pause 1.59) 234.0364 234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 234.0364 danced and j- just had a great time. 235.9762 235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 235.9762 (pause 0.16) 236.1382 236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 236.1382 It was a good time. 236.9263 237 DCB_int_01 237.4858 And [so when- after you] got married, where'd you- 239.0712 238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 237.6304 [And so-] 238.2086 239 DCB_int_01 239.2904 where'd you move to? 240.1017 240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 240.3488 We m- um- 241.1882 241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 241.1882 (pause 1.50) 242.6885 242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 242.6885 Well he was in- No. 243.7330 243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 243.7330 (pause 0.14) 243.8728 244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 243.8728 Let me see. 244.2086 245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 244.2086 (pause 0.60) 244.8101 246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 244.8101 Yeah, he was living in uh, Ch- Chillum, Maryland. 247.0529 247 DCB_int_01 247.4213 Oh, [okay.] 247.8585 248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 247.5554 [/On out/] on Chillum Road, 248.8517 249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 249.5231 and at- 249.8262 250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 249.8262 (pause 0.14) 249.9708 251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 249.9708 I was living on Longfellow Street at the time. 252.3255 252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 252.3255 (pause 0.92) 253.2488 253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 253.2488 Northwest 253.9202 254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 253.9202 (pause 0.67) 254.5859 255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 254.5859 up by /him/. 255.4065 256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 255.4065 (pause 0.44) 255.8416 257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 255.8416 What was that up by? 256.6282 258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 256.6282 (pause 1.46) 258.0924 259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 258.0924 It was almost to Military Road. 259.8982 260 DCB_int_01 260.0403 Mm-hm. [It's up] closer toward the Silver Spring, 262.0920 261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 260.4040 [Mm-hm.] 260.8284 262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 262.2304 Right. 262.4790 263 DCB_int_01 262.4837 getting towards Silver Spring, [/right/?] 263.8991 264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 263.7054 [Mm-hm.] Mm-hm. 264.7545 265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 265.3654 And so 265.9809 266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 265.9809 (pause 0.51) 266.4926 267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 266.4926 I liked that apartment. I wanted to stay there but 268.4464 268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 268.4464 (pause 0.46) 268.9033 269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 268.9033 his was a little bigger. So we moved- moved to Chillum, 271.5752 270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 271.5752 (pause 0.81) 272.3900 271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 272.3900 and we stayed there. 273.5324 272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 273.5324 (pause 0.35) 273.8775 273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 273.8775 And then when /RD-NAME-2/ came, 275.5142 274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 275.5142 (pause 1.38) 276.8897 275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 276.8897 they wanted- Cause we lived up on a- 278.4320 276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 278.4320 (pause 0.17) 278.6045 277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 278.6045 over 278.9169 278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 278.9169 (pause 0.21) 279.1314 279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 279.1314 people so this apartment wanted us to move down on the 281.8686 280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 281.8686 (pause 0.41) 282.2789 281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 282.2789 r- 282.3955 282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 282.3955 (pause 0.18) 282.5773 283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 282.5773 um, 282.8478 284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 282.8478 (pause 0.13) 282.9737 285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 282.9737 ground level since we had a child now. 284.8703 286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 284.8703 (pause 0.84) 285.7143 287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 285.7143 And- but 286.1806 288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 286.1806 (pause 0.17) 286.3485 289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 286.3485 um, we didn't- well he didn't wanna be down on the ground level with a child. 289.8938 290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 289.8938 (pause 1.18) 291.0708 291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 291.0708 So we f- moved to um, 292.8987 292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 292.8987 (pause 0.64) 293.5375 293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 293.5375 another location. Where was that? 295.2674 294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 295.2674 (pause 0.52) 295.7850 295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 295.7850 On Russell Avenue 296.8936 296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 296.8936 (pause 0.19) 297.0801 297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 297.0801 which is off of Eastern Avenue in um, 298.9080 298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 298.9080 (pause 0.27) 299.1785 299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 299.1785 Mount Rainier, 299.7893 300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 299.7893 (pause 0.92) 300.7125 301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 300.7125 Maryland. 301.2152 302 DCB_int_01 301.3374 Mkay. 301.7251 303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 301.9750 Mm-hm. 302.4632 304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 302.4632 (pause 1.04) 303.4998 305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 303.4998 And 304.0873 306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.0873 (pause 0.18) 304.2718 307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 304.2718 we stayed there until /RD-NAME-2/ was about um, 307.2208 308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 307.2208 (pause 2.25) 309.4682 309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 309.4682 he was five. 310.4505 310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 310.4505 (pause 0.67) 311.1178 311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 311.1178 And we moved to 312.4234 312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 312.4234 (pause 0.98) 313.4027 313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 313.4027 um, 313.8177 314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 313.8177 (pause 0.51) 314.3294 315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 314.3294 back to Chillum Road, but it was at another apartment uh- uh, location. 317.5701 316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 317.5701 (pause 1.25) 318.8245 317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 318.8245 I forget the name of it, 319.9798 318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 319.9798 (pause 0.11) 320.0869 319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 320.0869 320.4460 320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 320.4460 (pause 0.54) 320.9872 321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 320.9872 but we lived there until um, 322.7262 322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 322.7262 (pause 0.56) 323.2857 323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 323.2857 /RD-NAME-2/ 323.7986 324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 323.7986 (pause 1.44) 325.2348 325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 325.2348 um, 325.5519 326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 325.5519 (pause 1.05) 326.6045 327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 326.6045 was promoted out of the sixth grade. 328.1526 328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 328.1526 (pause 0.32) 328.4697 329 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 328.4697 Um, 328.8381 330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 328.8381 (pause 0.62) 329.4629 331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 329.4629 and uh, 330.0084 332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 330.0084 (pause 0.44) 330.4514 333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 330.4514 while- still- uh, go back to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 332.6651 334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 332.6651 (pause 0.12) 332.7817 335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 332.7817 another thing- big thing he did was 334.8008 336 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 334.8008 (pause 0.57) 335.3743 337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 335.3743 started dancing 336.4374 338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 336.4374 (pause 0.31) 336.7498 339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 336.7498 with uh- 337.3141 340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 337.3141 (pause 1.24) 338.5532 341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 338.5532 uh, Palmer Park 339.5977 342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 339.5977 (pause 0.50) 340.1013 343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 340.1013 c- Recreation Center out in- 341.6401 344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 341.6401 (pause 0.12) 341.7567 345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 341.7567 out here. 342.3162 346 DCB_int_01 342.7452 343.0296 347 DCB_int_01 343.0296 (pause 0.11) 343.1357 348 DCB_int_01 343.1357 Excuse me. 343.6171 349 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 343.6300 And so they had a um- 344.8144 350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 344.8144 (pause 0.39) 345.2014 351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 345.2014 a 345.3692 352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 345.3692 (pause 0.25) 345.6164 353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 345.6164 partnership with /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 347.0106 354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 347.0106 (pause 0.22) 347.2297 355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 347.2297 and the- 347.4536 356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 347.4536 (pause 0.38) 347.8313 357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 347.8313 the ladies- young ladies would come and teach the 349.8736 358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 349.8736 (pause 0.62) 350.4973 359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 350.4973 students uh, tap and jazz and ballet. 353.2297 360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 353.2297 (pause 1.24) 354.4747 361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 354.4747 And so /RD-NAME-2/ and two of his 356.1207 362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 356.1207 (pause 0.27) 356.3900 363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 356.3900 buddies, 356.9636 364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 356.9636 (pause 0.36) 357.3226 365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 357.3226 /RD-NAME-2/ and uh, 358.3345 366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 358.3345 (pause 0.23) 358.5676 367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 358.5676 /RD-NAME-2/, 358.9873 368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 358.9873 (pause 0.50) 359.4909 369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 359.4909 they were the only boys in the group. No, there were a couple other boys but they kind of fell out, so it ended up 363.9528 370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 363.9528 (pause 0.19) 364.1433 371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 364.1433 just being those three boys 365.5655 372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 365.5655 (pause 0.68) 366.2463 373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 366.2463 with the girls dancing. 367.4729 374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 367.4729 (pause 0.15) 367.6218 375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 367.6218 And uh, 368.0805 376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 368.0805 (pause 0.91) 368.9869 377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 368.9869 they really got good at it. I mean, they were- they were really good. 372.0970 378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 372.0970 (pause 0.28) 372.3768 379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 372.3768 And uh, 372.8757 380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 372.8757 (pause 0.33) 373.2010 381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 373.2010 by them being the only boys in there, they really stood out. 375.8309 382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 375.8309 (pause 0.21) 376.0407 383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 376.0407 They shined. 377.3183 384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 377.3183 (pause 0.57) 377.8919 385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 377.8919 And so (laughing) 378.7405 386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 378.7405 (pause 0.49) 379.2348 387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 379.2348 uh, 379.6638 388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 379.6638 (pause 0.19) 379.8491 389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 379.8491 even after /RD-NAME-2/ um, 381.9614 390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 381.9614 (pause 0.57) 382.5303 391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 382.5303 promoted out of uh, elementary school, 384.7416 392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 384.7416 (pause 1.14) 385.8804 393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 385.8804 and he then went to um, 387.3646 394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 387.3646 (pause 0.91) 388.2785 395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 388.2785 school in Maryland. 389.1924 396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 389.1924 (pause 0.81) 389.9991 397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 389.9991 Uh, 390.4001 398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 390.4001 (pause 1.28) 391.6813 399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 391.6813 He kept up the dancing, s- s- You know, stayed with Palmer Park, 394.7181 400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 394.7181 (pause 0.57) 395.2904 401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 395.2904 and they did- They- I mean they 396.8711 402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 396.8711 (pause 0.12) 396.9877 403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 396.9877 traveled and won 398.1347 404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 398.1347 (pause 0.22) 398.3527 405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 398.3527 championships and competitions and 400.5723 406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 400.5723 (pause 0.71) 401.2810 407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 401.2810 so I was a dance mother. 402.8245 408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 402.8245 (pause 0.14) 402.9690 409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 402.9690 403.3280 410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 403.3280 (pause 0.29) 403.6207 411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 403.6207 It was fun, we did a lot of- 405.2713 412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 405.2713 (pause 0.60) 405.8682 413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 405.8682 going to Myrtle- places like Myrtle Beach, and we went to Disney World and we went to 409.8316 414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 409.8316 (pause 0.54) 410.3760 415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 410.3760 all 410.6372 416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 410.6372 (pause 0.20) 410.8330 417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 410.8330 kind of places. And they w- 412.2226 418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 412.2226 (pause 0.48) 412.6982 419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 412.6982 Lot of times, they would be the only uh, 414.5307 420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 414.5307 (pause 0.14) 414.6659 421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 414.6659 African American children th- in the competition. 417.0055 422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 417.0055 (pause 0.42) 417.4217 423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 417.4217 And they would go and 418.2785 424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 418.2785 (pause 0.52) 418.8008 425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 418.8008 tear it up and be the winners. And then little kids would be jealous, but that was cool. 422.8708 426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 422.8708 (pause 0.37) 423.2433 427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 423.2433 We would- We were proud of them. They were- 424.8746 428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 424.8746 (pause 0.20) 425.0759 429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 425.0759 did really good. 426.0084 430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 426.0084 (pause 0.84) 426.8524 431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 426.8524 And at the same time um, 428.3154 432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 428.3154 (pause 1.05) 429.3646 433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 429.3646 /RD-NAME-2/ was called to preach 431.4558 434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 431.4558 (pause 0.06) 431.5142 435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 431.5142 when he was thirteen. 432.8245 436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 432.8245 (pause 1.09) 433.9098 437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 433.9098 And um, 434.7118 438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 434.7118 (pause 0.70) 435.4112 439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 435.4112 that was another exciting time 437.3743 440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 437.3743 (pause 0.35) 437.7193 441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 437.7193 in our life and uh- 438.7918 442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 438.7918 (pause 1.75) 440.5439 443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 440.5439 // 441.1268 444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 441.1268 (pause 1.23) 442.3531 445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 442.3531 Oh that's- I don't know. 443.6681 446 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 443.6681 (pause 0.15) 443.8219 447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 443.8219 There's a lot of words for that I- I don't know. It was- 446.5626 448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 446.5626 (pause 0.29) 446.8563 449 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 446.8563 it was a- it was just um- 448.2039 450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 448.2039 (pause 1.75) 449.9572 451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 449.9572 It was a d- dynamic ex- 451.3933 452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 451.3933 (pause 0.28) 451.6731 453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 451.6731 time 452.3621 454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 452.3621 (pause 1.29) 453.6490 455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 453.6490 you know, because for him, being so young, 456.0038 456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 456.0038 (pause 1.54) 457.5472 457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 457.5472 I felt like I was called too. 458.9709 458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 458.9709 (pause 0.96) 459.9288 459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 459.9288 You know, cause I had to- 461.1924 460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 461.1924 (pause 0.88) 462.0691 461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 462.0691 I had to look out for him. I had to protect him, you know, 464.8361 462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 464.8361 (pause 0.23) 465.0615 463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 465.0615 and make sure that- 466.1526 464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 466.1526 (pause 0.94) 467.0945 465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 467.0945 You know, people would approach him with things. You know, I would make sure it was 470.1674 466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 470.1674 (pause 0.48) 470.6512 467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 470.6512 something that was gonna be right for him. And so 472.8947 468 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 472.8947 (pause 0.90) 473.7986 469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 473.7986 I- You know I- 474.9550 470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 474.9550 (pause 0.08) 475.0389 471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 475.0389 i- I told God, Well you know, 476.5532 472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 476.5532 (pause 0.10) 476.6558 473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 476.6558 you- you call him, you call me. So he's my ministry, you know. He's doing his ministry, but he's my ministry. So 482.4347 474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 482.4347 (pause 0.68) 483.1128 475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 483.1128 that's we made- I made up my mind that 484.7728 476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 484.7728 (pause 0.65) 485.4209 477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 485.4209 I was gonna stick with him and support him and- 487.7384 478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 487.7384 (pause 0.56) 488.2968 479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 488.2968 and that's what I did. And 489.4718 480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 489.4718 (pause 0.38) 489.8542 481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 489.8542 wherever he went, 490.7308 482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 490.7308 (pause 0.63) 491.3603 483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 491.3603 I- I never missed anything until I got sick. 494.3387 484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 494.3387 (pause 0.53) 494.8657 485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 494.8657 You know, 495.1687 486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 495.1687 (pause 0.25) 495.4205 487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 495.4205 or 495.8169 488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 495.8169 (pause 0.25) 496.0619 489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 496.0619 started dealing with physical 497.3133 490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 497.3133 (pause 0.11) 497.4256 491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 497.4256 things. 497.8639 492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 497.8639 (pause 0.65) 498.5120 493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 498.5120 And um, 499.0763 494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 499.0763 (pause 2.24) 501.3133 495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 501.3133 he r- he really made me proud. 502.9933 496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 502.9933 (pause 0.25) 503.2437 497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 503.2437 He really made me proud, loved to hear him speak. 505.4633 498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 505.4633 (pause 0.42) 505.8818 499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 505.8818 He's a very dynamic, 507.1687 500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 507.1687 (pause 0.48) 507.6444 501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 507.6444 very strong 508.5350 502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 508.5350 (pause 1.39) 509.9292 503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 509.9292 very old person. [Like you said], old spirit. That's- that's /RD-NAME-2/. 513.6164 504 DCB_int_01 511.2709 [] 511.7419 505 DCB_int_01 514.2389 Now you came from a lot of siblings. Does your husband have a lot of siblings? 517.5542 506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 518.0403 Oh yeah, he's one of fifteen. 519.8643 507 DCB_int_01 520.2738 And so y'all only had one child. 522.0597 508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 522.4328 [One child.] 523.0996 509 DCB_int_01 522.5773 [Y'all didn't want a] big family. 523.9156 510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 523.9797 No. 524.3714 511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 524.3714 (pause 0.58) 524.9542 512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 524.9542 And I d- I was not um- 526.7728 513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 526.7728 (pause 0.51) 527.2810 514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 527.2810 I had really hard 528.3855 515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 528.3855 (pause 0.15) 528.5354 516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 528.5354 uh, pregnancy after the- 529.8969 517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 529.8969 (pause 0.64) 530.5346 518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 530.5346 uh, leading up to it. You know, before delivery it was fine, but I- 533.3183 519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 533.3183 (pause 0.13) 533.4489 520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 533.4489 t- after delivery it was 534.7079 521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 534.7079 (pause 0.08) 534.7918 522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 534.7918 too hard. Said, no, can't do this again. 537.1175 523 DCB_int_01 537.2993 Mkay. 537.7143 524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 537.6863 [Yeah, so.] 538.4557 525 DCB_int_01 537.8728 [I was there.] 538.5723 526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 538.6609 [] 539.0246 527 DCB_int_01 538.6655 [/I w-/] Mm. 539.3790 528 DCB_int_01 539.8779 I think /RD-NAME-3/ might be a only child, [so I understand] [that] 542.2921 529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 541.4575 [Mm-hm.] 542.0263 530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 542.0263 (pause 0.19) 542.2175 531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 542.2175 [] 543.1268 532 DCB_int_01 542.4553 [very much so.] 543.2713 533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 543.2900 Yeah. 543.6910 534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 543.6910 (pause 0.13) 543.8215 535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 543.8215 [Yeah.] 544.2179 536 DCB_int_01 543.8402 [Very much] so. And sh- I'm still- she's only four, 545.8686 537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 546.0551 Mm-hm. 546.4188 538 DCB_int_01 546.4654 but I understand 547.4819 539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 547.5239 [Mm-hm.] 548.0683 540 DCB_int_01 547.8538 [Look- you] know, I- mm. 548.9309 541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 549.2294 Yeah. 549.5744 542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 549.5744 (pause 0.26) 549.8355 543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 549.8355 Yeah. 550.1899 544 DCB_int_01 550.4091 So 550.6935 545 DCB_int_01 550.6935 (pause 0.27) 550.9593 546 DCB_int_01 550.9593 let's move 551.4955 547 DCB_int_01 551.4955 (pause 0.16) 551.6541 548 DCB_int_01 551.6541 a little bit. 552.3908 549 DCB_int_01 552.3908 (pause 0.31) 552.6986 550 DCB_int_01 552.6986 So you worked in the schools, and then you retired. 556.0920 551 DCB_int_01 556.0920 (pause 0.68) 556.7728 552 DCB_int_01 556.7728 What did you do 558.0364 553 DCB_int_01 558.0364 (pause 1.33) 559.3700 554 DCB_int_01 559.3700 kind of- and all this time growing up, I know you had- 561.4625 555 DCB_int_01 561.4625 (pause 0.18) 561.6444 556 DCB_int_01 561.6444 you had your family, and then when you were married- 563.9385 557 DCB_int_01 563.9385 (pause 0.90) 564.8384 558 DCB_int_01 564.8384 Where did y'all hang out? Where did y'all go like if you and- 567.6304 559 DCB_int_01 567.6304 (pause 0.11) 567.7423 560 DCB_int_01 567.7423 and your husband wanted to go on a date? 569.2670 561 DCB_int_01 569.2670 (pause 0.52) 569.7893 562 DCB_int_01 569.7893 Where would y'all go? And what did y'all do in the city that you were like, yeah, this is my city. 574.0267 563 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 578.1382 You know my husband is not one 579.7796 564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 579.7796 (pause 0.14) 579.9195 565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 579.9195 to l- 580.1573 566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 580.1573 (pause 0.15) 580.3065 567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 580.3065 that likes to go out 581.3090 568 DCB_int_01 581.4256 [Mm.] 581.6308 569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 581.4676 [much.] 581.8546 570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 582.7825 So 583.3047 571 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 583.3047 (pause 0.11) 583.4155 572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 583.4155 we didn't do a lot of that. 585.7842 573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 585.7842 (pause 0.45) 586.2365 574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 586.2365 Um, once in awhile, 587.7147 575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 587.7147 (pause 0.48) 588.1950 576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 588.1950 we'll go out to just- go out to dinner. 590.0275 577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 590.0275 (pause 1.03) 591.0568 578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 591.0568 Um, 591.4951 579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 591.4951 (pause 0.70) 592.1992 580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 592.1992 I remember in DC, 593.3417 581 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 593.3417 (pause 0.20) 593.5422 582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 593.5422 there was a- 594.0504 583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 594.0504 (pause 0.29) 594.3395 584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 594.3395 a Hot Shoppe on Georgia Avenue. 596.3854 585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 596.3854 (pause 1.21) 597.5931 586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 597.5931 It was- 597.9195 587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 597.9195 (pause 0.14) 598.0547 588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 598.0547 Uh, was it near- I think it was Decatur Street. 600.4934 589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 600.4934 (pause 0.16) 600.6566 590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 600.6566 Georgia and Decatur or 602.2362 591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 602.2362 (pause 0.67) 602.9076 592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 602.9076 Emerson, somewhere up in there. 604.3531 593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 604.3531 (pause 1.01) 605.3603 594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 605.3603 And that- 605.7660 595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 605.7660 (pause 0.14) 605.9012 596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 605.9012 that Hot Shoppe- We used to love to go there. 608.0543 597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 608.0543 (pause 0.63) 608.6838 598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 608.6838 They had good food. 609.4532 599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 609.4532 (pause 0.27) 609.7190 600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 609.7190 610.0454 601 DCB_int_01 610.1433 What is it called? 611.0339 602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 611.1225 Hot Shoppes. 611.9199 603 DCB_int_01 611.9898 /Hop/ [Shoppes.] 612.8565 604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 612.4468 [Mm-hm.] 612.8944 605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 613.2907 That was a big- 613.7885 606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 613.7885 (pause 0.36) 614.1522 607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 614.1522 That was a big fa- a popular restaurant 616.2086 608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 616.2086 (pause 0.14) 616.3485 609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 616.3485 back there, back in the 617.6447 610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 617.6447 (pause 0.31) 617.9525 611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 617.9525 eighties, 618.5120 612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 618.5120 (pause 0.34) 618.8524 613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 618.8524 seventies and [eighties.] 619.9098 614 DCB_int_01 619.3607 /[I don't remember] it/. 620.3621 615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 620.3621 Mm-hm. 620.9916 616 DCB_int_01 621.0988 I mean I don't- I've not heard of it, 622.4883 617 DCB_int_01 622.4883 (pause 0.15) 622.6422 618 DCB_int_01 622.6422 [not that I remember-] 623.3510 619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 622.7028 [Uh-huh.] 623.4489 620 DCB_int_01 623.4582 but [I've] 623.7753 621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 623.5328 [Uh-huh.] 623.9898 622 DCB_int_01 624.0318 not heard anybody talk about it. 625.3141 623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 625.5087 [Yeah.] 625.8398 624 DCB_int_01 625.5274 [Do you] remember the time- Let's go back, even since you were talking about 628.4277 625 DCB_int_01 628.5863 in the seventies and eighties, before- 630.3628 626 DCB_int_01 630.3628 (pause 0.78) 631.1462 627 DCB_int_01 631.1462 Do you remember the time of the riots? 632.7584 628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 633.1921 Oh yes. 634.1200 629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 634.1200 (pause 0.52) 634.6422 630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 634.6422 I was as- I was at um- 636.0597 631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 636.0597 (pause 0.11) 636.1697 632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 636.1697 Let me see. That was sixty eight. 637.3374 633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 637.3374 (pause 0.37) 637.7104 634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 637.7104 That's the year I graduated, 638.8843 635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 638.8843 (pause 0.65) 639.5324 636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 639.5324 and so the riots was in April. 641.3836 637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 641.3836 (pause 0.54) 641.9245 638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 641.9245 And so 642.5167 639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 642.5167 (pause 0.62) 643.1415 640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 643.1415 we were in school. 644.1720 641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 644.1720 (pause 0.26) 644.4320 642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 644.4320 I /will/ never forget. We were in school when they um- 647.0106 643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 647.0106 (pause 0.51) 647.5235 644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 647.5235 when it got word that 648.6706 645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 648.6706 (pause 0.19) 648.8618 646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 648.8618 Doctor King had been killed, 650.1895 647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 650.1895 (pause 0.55) 650.7351 648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 650.7351 and uh- and all the breakouts started. 652.9826 649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 652.9826 (pause 0.11) 653.0899 650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 653.0899 I mean it didn't take no time either. 654.6986 651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 654.6986 (pause 0.28) 654.9830 652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 654.9830 It just- 655.4726 653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 655.4726 (pause 0.87) 656.3434 654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 656.3434 and we- they, 657.3739 655 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 657.3739 (pause 0.17) 657.5418 656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 657.5418 said we- you know, we were gonna go home. 659.2997 657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 659.2997 (pause 0.74) 660.0411 658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 660.0411 /To told the truth/. 660.7265 659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 660.7265 (pause 0.49) 661.2208 660 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 661.2208 Call parents I guess, whatever they did to- 663.0568 661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 663.0568 (pause 0.63) 663.6910 662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 663.6910 for us to leave, and I remember walking down. 666.1017 663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 666.1017 (pause 1.09) 667.1882 664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 667.1882 I didn't come down Thirteenth Street. I came down Eleventh Street, the other side of the school. 671.1178 665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 671.1178 (pause 0.96) 672.0737 666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 672.0737 And 672.6193 667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 672.6193 (pause 0.33) 672.9457 668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 672.9457 I remember standing there on U Street 674.8821 669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 674.8821 (pause 0.14) 675.0195 670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 675.0195 looking at 675.6024 671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 675.6024 (pause 0.23) 675.8355 672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 675.8355 the smoke and the fire and the people running with 678.5074 673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 678.5074 (pause 0.40) 678.9037 674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 678.9037 boxes and 679.8456 675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 679.8456 (pause 0.83) 680.6791 676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 680.6791 groceries or whatever they could 681.9987 677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 681.9987 (pause 0.44) 682.4417 678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 682.4417 run with. 682.9313 679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 682.9313 (pause 0.86) 683.7940 680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 683.7940 And it was- 684.4747 681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 684.4747 (pause 0.81) 685.2861 682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 685.2861 it was kind of scary, but it was, wow. 687.5045 683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 687.5045 (pause 0.45) 687.9568 684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 687.9568 Just awesome 688.7168 685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 688.7168 (pause 0.21) 688.9220 686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 688.9220 to see that. 689.5935 687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 689.5935 (pause 0.64) 690.2323 688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 690.2323 It was something I had never seen before. It was just- 692.3061 689 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 692.3061 (pause 0.37) 692.6745 690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 692.6745 it just- 693.0755 691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 693.0755 (pause 0.11) 693.1827 692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 693.1827 it blew my mind. I just couldn't understand why- 695.3743 693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 695.3743 (pause 0.67) 696.0411 694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 696.0411 At that time I couldn't understand why, but then as 698.6978 695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 698.6978 (pause 0.55) 699.2527 696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 699.2527 time went on and people talked about 701.2111 697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 701.2111 (pause 0.26) 701.4676 698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 701.4676 you know, 701.7893 699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 701.7893 (pause 0.94) 702.7265 700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 702.7265 Doctor King and talked about 704.4040 701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 704.4040 (pause 0.19) 704.5905 702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 704.5905 you know, why this- 705.4205 703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 705.4205 (pause 0.46) 705.8822 704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 705.8822 what happened and everything /el-/, 707.2297 705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 707.2297 (pause 0.21) 707.4396 706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 707.4396 I started to see or understand a little bit better, but 710.1531 707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 710.1531 (pause 1.46) 711.6117 708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 711.6117 I just felt 712.2692 709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 712.2692 (pause 0.27) 712.5350 710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 712.5350 bad because they were tearing up their own s- neighborhoods and 715.8226 711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 715.8226 (pause 0.49) 716.3154 712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 716.3154 you know. 716.7724 713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 716.7724 (pause 0.72) 717.4905 714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 717.4905 And so I was scared, 718.4277 715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 718.4277 (pause 0.13) 718.5536 716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 718.5536 but we made it home. 719.6634 717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 719.6634 (pause 0.14) 719.8033 718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 719.8033 720.3302 719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 720.3302 (pause 0.10) 720.4328 720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 720.4328 Got down, um, 721.1602 721 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 721.1602 (pause 0.32) 721.4761 722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 721.4761 came all the way down Eleventh Street, 722.8097 723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 722.8097 (pause 0.78) 723.5930 724 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 723.5930 and then I was home. And then, 724.8381 725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 724.8381 (pause 1.28) 726.1204 726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 726.1204 like I said, I lived on Ninth Street- 727.6533 727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 727.6533 (pause 0.28) 727.9331 728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 727.9331 Ninth and P. 728.7025 729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 728.7025 (pause 0.81) 729.5091 730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 729.5091 And so, on P Street, 731.1178 731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 731.1178 (pause 1.38) 732.4981 732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 732.4981 took you over to Seventh Street, 734.0415 733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 734.0415 (pause 0.27) 734.3154 734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 734.3154 and there was a lot of little stores and businesses along Seventh Street. 737.7007 735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 737.7007 (pause 0.51) 738.2090 736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 738.2090 And so I could stand on my front stoop, 739.8689 737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 739.8689 (pause 0.49) 740.3621 738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 740.3621 and see the smoke- 741.2107 739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 741.2107 (pause 0.14) 741.3553 740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 741.3553 Cause that was another little street they tore up. 743.2064 741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 743.2064 (pause 0.33) 743.5375 742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 743.5375 /You know/. 743.8592 743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 743.8592 (pause 0.32) 744.1763 744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 744.1763 So I could see the smoke up over the trees and see people running. 747.7236 745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 747.7236 (pause 0.97) 748.6982 746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 748.6982 I c- I remember seeing this man with a box full of liquor. 751.3793 747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 751.3793 (pause 1.32) 752.6978 748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 752.6978 I said, no, no. 753.8542 749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 753.8542 (pause 0.63) 754.4837 750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 754.4837 754.6702 751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 754.6702 (pause 0.37) 755.0386 752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 755.0386 That bothered me. I don't know why it bothered me, but it did. Why liquor? 758.5019 753 DCB_int_01 759.3273 [/Inaudible/.] 759.7030 754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 759.5791 [You know], why- why you go to /unintelligible/. That's probably why some of you acting like that, cause of this liquor. 764.7817 755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 765.3879 [B- ] 766.0314 756 DCB_int_01 765.3978 [] 767.1691 757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 766.6003 [But uh], 767.1598 758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 767.5655 I remember /seeing/ that- that 768.9084 759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 768.9084 (pause 0.21) 769.1182 760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 769.1182 um, 769.5425 761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 769.5425 (pause 0.18) 769.7197 762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 769.7197 /blamps/. 770.5952 763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 770.5952 (pause 0.33) 770.9263 764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 770.9263 I s- I saw somebody with some lamps. 772.9779 765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 772.9779 (pause 1.26) 774.2369 766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 774.2369 It was c- It was creepy. 775.4621 767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 775.4621 (pause 0.86) 776.3201 768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 776.3201 /Mm-mm/. 776.7771 769 DCB_int_01 777.0242 Do you remember 778.1340 770 DCB_int_01 778.1340 (pause 0.97) 779.1085 771 DCB_int_01 779.1085 the March on Washington? 780.3205 772 DCB_int_01 780.3205 (pause 0.11) 780.4328 773 DCB_int_01 780.4328 So 780.7685 774 DCB_int_01 780.7685 (pause 0.12) 780.8851 775 DCB_int_01 780.8851 a few years before that? 782.2500 776 DCB_int_01 782.2500 (pause 0.62) 782.8703 777 DCB_int_01 782.8703 Did you participate in the [march?] 784.4371 778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 783.9568 [I didn't], no. 784.7774 779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 785.6867 I was 786.2276 780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 786.2276 (pause 0.54) 786.7685 781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 786.7685 thirteen. 787.5379 782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 787.5379 (pause 1.98) 789.5185 783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 789.5185 That was in sixty three right? 790.6749 784 DCB_int_01 790.6702 Mm-hm. 791.1458 785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 792.3209 Yeah. 792.7405 786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 792.7405 (pause 1.27) 794.0123 787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 794.0123 Um, 794.4087 788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 794.4087 (pause 0.35) 794.7631 789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 794.7631 my mother had not 795.8215 790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 795.8215 (pause 0.33) 796.1526 791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 796.1526 remarried yet, so 797.5446 792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 797.5446 (pause 0.76) 798.3022 793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 798.3022 it was just her, 799.3327 794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 799.3327 (pause 1.45) 800.7817 795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 800.7817 my sister and me. 801.7143 796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 801.7143 (pause 2.25) 803.9618 797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 803.9618 So 804.5027 798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 804.5027 (pause 0.46) 804.9643 799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 804.9643 it was like, 805.5985 800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 805.5985 (pause 1.00) 806.5999 801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 806.5999 go to school, come home, 807.9987 802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 807.9987 (pause 0.55) 808.5490 803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 808.5490 you know? 808.9127 804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 808.9127 (pause 0.77) 809.6820 805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 809.6820 She had to know where we were and couldn't- we- we just didn't go and hang out. 812.7957 806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 812.7957 (pause 0.21) 813.0102 807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 813.0102 813.3832 808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 813.3832 (pause 0.72) 814.1060 809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 814.1060 So n- um, 815.0759 810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 815.0759 (pause 0.31) 815.3883 811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 815.3883 no. I di- I- I 816.5773 812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 816.5773 (pause 0.18) 816.7545 813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 816.7545 knew about it, but I didn't participate. 818.7677 814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 818.7677 (pause 0.61) 819.3786 815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 819.3786 Mm. 819.6490 816 DCB_int_01 819.9521 So 820.3904 817 DCB_int_01 820.3904 (pause 0.91) 821.2997 818 DCB_int_01 821.2997 thinking about 822.1297 819 DCB_int_01 822.1297 (pause 1.36) 823.4866 820 DCB_int_01 823.4866 over the last forty years, fifty years 825.9847 821 DCB_int_01 825.9847 (pause 0.53) 826.5163 822 DCB_int_01 826.5163 and kind of the city 827.5981 823 DCB_int_01 827.5981 (pause 0.75) 828.3442 824 DCB_int_01 828.3442 and how it's changed, what do you see- and- and the fact that you've been able to 832.0649 825 DCB_int_01 832.0649 (pause 0.09) 832.1573 826 DCB_int_01 832.1573 live in all parts of the city- 833.7333 827 DCB_int_01 833.7333 (pause 0.55) 834.2836 828 DCB_int_01 834.2836 I think that's- that's [just really] unique. [Um], 837.0941 829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 835.1777 [Mm-hm.] 835.8864 830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 835.8864 (pause 0.56) 836.4507 831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 836.4507 [Mm-hm.] 837.0941 832 DCB_int_01 837.6677 what do you see- 839.1038 833 DCB_int_01 839.1038 (pause 1.02) 840.1204 834 DCB_int_01 840.1204 How have you seen the quadrants 841.4714 835 DCB_int_01 841.4714 (pause 0.62) 842.0916 836 DCB_int_01 842.0916 different? How was it different living in Northwest versus 844.5163 837 DCB_int_01 844.5163 (pause 0.35) 844.8614 838 DCB_int_01 844.8614 Southeast is the first question. 846.4887 839 DCB_int_01 846.4887 (pause 0.44) 846.9270 840 DCB_int_01 846.9270 And then the second question is 848.8097 841 DCB_int_01 848.8097 (pause 0.34) 849.1525 842 DCB_int_01 849.1525 how have you seen the city as a whole change 852.0178 843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 852.1856 [Mkay.] 852.7452 844 DCB_int_01 852.1903 [over] 852.6752 845 DCB_int_01 852.8291 the last thirty, forty years? 854.4972 846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 855.9195 Well going back to when I lived in North- When we first came here, we lived in 860.0450 847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 860.0450 (pause 0.10) 860.1476 848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 860.1476 Northwest, 860.8470 849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 860.8470 (pause 0.44) 861.2900 850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 861.2900 which- which was called then Upper North- part of North- 863.9572 851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 863.9572 (pause 0.10) 864.0597 852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 864.0597 Upper Northwest. 865.0067 853 DCB_int_01 864.9550 Mm-hm. 865.2907 854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 865.5938 Um, 866.0030 855 DCB_int_01 866.4273 [Uptown.] 867.1081 856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 866.4367 [at this-] 866.8563 857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 867.1175 Uptown, y- [Okay.] 868.0640 858 DCB_int_01 867.6397 [Mm-hm.] 868.2785 859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 868.6888 And I could definitely see a differen- It was nicer. The- the houses were nicer. 872.2472 860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 872.2472 (pause 0.35) 872.5999 861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 872.5999 Um, 873.1221 862 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 873.1221 (pause 0.48) 873.6024 863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 873.6024 the people, 874.2738 864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 874.2738 (pause 1.28) 875.5515 865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 875.5515 they were nicer. 876.3069 866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 876.3069 (pause 0.58) 876.8897 867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 876.8897 I mean, the streets- I mean just a matter of the streets being clean. 880.5140 868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 880.5140 (pause 0.73) 881.2437 869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 881.2437 That was different. It was clean there. It was- 883.2907 870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 883.2907 (pause 0.59) 883.8771 871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 883.8771 It was okay. You c- you could walk- 885.6537 872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 885.6537 (pause 0.45) 886.1060 873 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 886.1060 If there was a t- corner store, you could walk there and not 888.5680 874 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 888.5680 (pause 0.17) 888.7359 875 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 888.7359 feel like 889.4260 876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 889.4260 (pause 0.58) 890.0077 877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 890.0077 you were in danger. 890.7910 878 DCB_int_01 890.9869 Mm. 891.2060 879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 891.5324 And then, 892.0827 880 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 892.0827 (pause 0.59) 892.6749 881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 892.6749 Southeast, or the part of Southeast that we moved to, 895.3047 882 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 895.3047 (pause 0.76) 896.0683 883 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 896.0683 it was okay. 896.9589 884 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 896.9589 (pause 0.07) 897.0335 885 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 897.0335 I- There was a 897.6630 886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 897.6630 (pause 0.16) 897.8215 887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 897.8215 p- uh, part off of um- 899.0665 888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 899.0665 (pause 0.26) 899.3277 889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 899.3277 about to say Minnesota Avenue? 900.5773 890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 900.5773 (pause 0.38) 900.9550 891 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 900.9550 901.4353 892 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 901.4353 (pause 1.57) 903.0055 893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 903.0055 Um, I didn't /stay/ anything- I didn't see a big difference from um- 906.5339 894 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 906.5339 (pause 1.10) 907.6346 895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 907.6346 We live in Northwest to that part of Southeast. 909.8850 896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 909.8850 (pause 0.42) 910.3018 897 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 910.3018 You know, we had the- 910.9267 898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 910.9267 (pause 0.22) 911.1458 899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 911.1458 and it was a nice quiet neighborhood. There were children there that I knew, 913.9622 900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 913.9622 (pause 0.40) 914.3667 901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 914.3667 we used to walk to school with. 915.7003 902 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 915.7003 (pause 0.36) 916.0625 903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 916.0625 Um, 916.4604 904 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 916.4604 (pause 1.29) 917.7473 905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 917.7473 so that part was alwa- South- that part of Southwest, let's see, that's the only time I really- 921.6444 906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 921.6444 (pause 0.41) 922.0500 907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 922.0500 we were there in Southwest, and it was- 923.8825 908 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 923.8825 (pause 1.45) 925.3327 909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 925.3327 it w- it was kind of disjointed 927.4327 910 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 927.4327 (pause 0.47) 927.9008 911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 927.9008 place to me. L- Like I say, that maybe this was the house because the house was- 931.4493 912 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 931.4493 (pause 0.45) 931.8958 913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 931.8958 it was- 932.3294 914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 932.3294 (pause 0.43) 932.7584 915 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 932.7584 Everything was like- it was down, 934.3997 916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 934.3997 (pause 0.33) 934.7262 917 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 934.7262 and it was a dark house and 936.1204 918 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 936.1204 (pause 0.37) 936.4887 919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 936.4887 we- that's the one we thought was haunted [and-] . 938.7211 920 DCB_int_01 937.9704 [Mm-hm.] 938.3527 921 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 939.1548 And we weren't there that long, so 940.8227 922 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 940.8227 (pause 0.30) 941.1225 923 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 941.1225 I- You know, I don't really have much feeling about Southwest 944.0228 924 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 944.0228 (pause 0.20) 944.2268 925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 944.2268 uh, for that. 944.8843 926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 944.8843 (pause 0.27) 945.1501 927 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 945.1501 And South, um- 946.1573 928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 946.1573 (pause 0.54) 946.6935 929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 946.6935 Northeast. 947.5722 930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 947.5722 (pause 0.68) 948.2556 931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 948.2556 Uh, when- Linc- We lived in Lincoln Park, 950.6139 932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 950.6139 (pause 0.21) 950.8190 933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 950.8190 up, right by there- 951.8402 934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 951.8402 (pause 0.26) 952.1013 935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 952.1013 Excuse me. 953.0367 936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 953.0367 (pause 1.38) 954.4188 937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 954.4188 I loved that part of town. 955.6638 938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 955.6638 (pause 0.53) 956.1895 939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 956.1895 We used to walk from there down to H Street, 958.5878 940 DCB_int_01 959.2950 [Mm.] 959.5235 941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 959.4302 [and] that was my town. That was my city. H Street Northeast, I loved it. 963.4065 942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 963.8309 We'd 964.0258 943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 964.0258 (pause 0.08) 964.1060 944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 964.1060 go to the stores. I remember um, 965.9292 945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 965.9292 (pause 0.15) 966.0784 946 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 966.0784 McBride's. 967.1013 947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 967.1013 (pause 0.53) 967.6358 948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 967.6358 We would go there. 968.7258 949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 968.7258 (pause 0.14) 968.8703 950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 968.8703 I guess that was- 969.5371 951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 969.5371 (pause 0.78) 970.3158 952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 970.3158 McBride's was like a 971.5561 953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 971.5561 (pause 0.49) 972.0504 954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 972.0504 KMart now, 972.7405 955 DCB_int_01 973.0203 [Mm.] 973.3793 956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 973.0343 [I guess.] That's what it was like. 974.1814 957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 974.7398 And m- 975.0895 958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 975.0895 (pause 0.14) 975.2340 959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 975.2340 uh, my oldest sister worked at a store, 977.4216 960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 977.4216 (pause 0.23) 977.6541 961 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 977.6541 what's called Copy Cat. 978.8058 962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 978.8058 (pause 0.12) 978.9270 963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 978.9270 And that was a 979.3793 964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 979.3793 (pause 0.41) 979.7885 965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 979.7885 store w- 980.2781 966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 980.2781 (pause 0.17) 980.4507 967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 980.4507 a lady's dress store. Then get nice clothes at Copy Cat. 983.4519 968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 983.4519 (pause 0.56) 984.0084 969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 984.0084 And there um- 984.7592 970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 984.7592 (pause 0.46) 985.2208 971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 985.2208 That was a- 985.6824 972 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 985.6824 (pause 0.28) 985.9611 973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 985.9611 I think there was a Woolworth down there I think. 988.5032 974 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 988.5032 (pause 1.09) 989.5888 975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 989.5888 And then you could go to the little carry outs and get 991.9890 976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 991.9890 (pause 0.18) 992.1662 977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 992.1662 some good 992.5439 978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 992.5439 (pause 0.43) 992.9729 979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 992.9729 steak and cheese sandwiches 995.1318 980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 995.1318 (pause 0.45) 995.5795 981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 995.5795 and fish sandwiches. 996.9171 982 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 996.9171 (pause 0.47) 997.3887 983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 997.3887 So I liked that, and then 998.4904 984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 998.4904 (pause 0.11) 998.5999 985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 998.5999 before you get to H Street, the- uh, right down Constitution Avenue 1001.8991 986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1001.8991 (pause 0.74) 1002.6426 987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1002.6426 and Twelfth Street was a little 1003.9657 988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1003.9657 (pause 0.14) 1004.1103 989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1004.1103 Jewish Delicatessen. 1005.3832 990 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1005.3832 (pause 0.10) 1005.4812 991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1005.4812 Used to 1005.8262 992 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1005.8262 (pause 0.15) 1005.9801 993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1005.9801 go there and get 1006.6562 994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1006.6562 (pause 0.44) 1007.0945 995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1007.0945 good cheese and good 1008.4328 996 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1008.4328 (pause 0.22) 1008.6519 997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1008.6519 half smokes. 1009.9249 998 DCB_int_01 1010.0730 Mm. 1010.3807 999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1010.5253 And uh, 1011.2060 1000 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1011.2060 (pause 0.90) 1012.1106 1001 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1012.1106 my older sister, /??/, they used to send me 1015.1462 1002 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1015.1462 (pause 0.62) 1015.7652 1003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1015.7652 and her children 1016.8097 1004 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1016.8097 (pause 0.32) 1017.1314 1005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1017.1314 up to that little store 1018.3578 1006 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1018.3578 (pause 0.13) 1018.4883 1007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1018.4883 and to 1018.7495 1008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1018.7495 (pause 0.26) 1019.0059 1009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1019.0059 get her RC sodas 1020.6312 1010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1020.6312 (pause 0.57) 1021.1975 1011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1021.1975 and 1021.5834 1012 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1021.5834 (pause 0.20) 1021.7839 1013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1021.7839 cheese. [Cheese and crackers- /C/- Yup.] 1025.3556 1014 DCB_int_01 1023.4625 [I remember RC sodas.] 1025.2252 1015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1026.0737 So we had to go up there and the- 1027.4353 1016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1027.4353 (pause 0.20) 1027.6346 1017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1027.6346 that- 1027.8165 1018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1027.8165 (pause 0.09) 1027.9098 1019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1027.9098 t- I'll never forget the day 1029.2713 1020 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1029.2713 (pause 0.46) 1029.7283 1021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1029.7283 that we- I was coming back. I had her RC in a bag, a paper bag. 1033.5823 1022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1033.5823 (pause 0.60) 1034.1802 1023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1034.1802 And if- 1034.6418 1024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1034.6418 (pause 0.24) 1034.8843 1025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1034.8843 uh- walking down the street- 1036.0873 1026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1036.0873 (pause 0.90) 1036.9873 1027 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1036.9873 I used to walk barefoot in the street, 1038.7409 1028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1038.7409 (pause 0.11) 1038.8478 1029 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1038.8478 so that tell you something about that part of the city, was- street was 1042.2844 1030 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1042.2844 (pause 0.33) 1042.6142 1031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1042.6142 not dirty. It was on- 1043.6308 1032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1043.6308 (pause 0.30) 1043.9292 1033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1043.9292 no trash and junk all over the street, so- 1045.9144 1034 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1045.9144 (pause 0.41) 1046.3294 1035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1046.3294 so I barefoot, 1047.1268 1036 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1047.1268 (pause 0.48) 1047.6071 1037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1047.6071 and I was 1048.0733 1038 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1048.0733 (pause 0.14) 1048.2086 1039 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1048.2086 coming back, I dropped that bottle, slid out of the bag. 1050.7109 1040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1050.7109 (pause 1.14) 1051.8538 1041 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1051.8538 And so I didn't know, and I- I- You know I said, oh man, she gonna kill me, blah blah blah. I kept- I kept walking, never did really 1057.9156 1042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1057.9156 (pause 0.25) 1058.1616 1043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1058.1616 looked down and to see that 1059.5045 1044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1059.5045 (pause 0.45) 1059.9521 1045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1059.9521 glass had popped up on my leg and had cut my leg. 1062.4514 1046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1062.4514 (pause 0.92) 1063.3700 1047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1063.3700 And I- To this day, I have a- like, a 1065.2527 1048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1065.2527 (pause 0.22) 1065.4765 1049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1065.4765 half moon shaped scar on my leg from that (laughing) 1067.8499 1050 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1067.8499 (pause 0.26) 1068.1064 1051 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1068.1064 RC soda. 1069.9948 1052 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1069.9948 (pause 0.57) 1070.5626 1053 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1070.5626 So (laughing), 1071.1734 1054 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1071.1734 (pause 0.38) 1071.5511 1055 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1071.5511 that's a memoir I kept from [that day (laughing).] 1074.3022 1056 DCB_int_01 1073.5981 [] 1075.0576 1057 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1074.7405 [But] she- she was /always/- 1076.4134 1058 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1076.5253 /she just/ send me- us up to that store to get that stuff for her, 1079.9478 1059 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1079.9478 (pause 0.09) 1080.0411 1060 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1080.0411 so. 1080.4281 1061 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1080.4281 (pause 0.77) 1081.2022 1062 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1081.2022 I liked- 1081.7197 1063 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1081.7197 (pause 0.23) 1081.9517 1064 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1081.9517 that- 1082.1149 1065 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1082.1149 (pause 0.18) 1082.2968 1066 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1082.2968 that was my favorite place 1083.5185 1067 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1083.5185 (pause 0.17) 1083.6910 1068 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1083.6910 that- 1083.8775 1069 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1083.8775 (pause 0.15) 1084.0314 1070 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1084.0314 to live. I guess maybe cause 1085.5235 1071 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1085.5235 (pause 0.36) 1085.8872 1072 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1085.8872 it was my dad was still living, and 1087.6964 1073 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1087.6964 (pause 0.69) 1088.3854 1074 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1088.3854 you know, I was- so loved him, so uh, he made it 1091.1834 1075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1091.1834 (pause 0.13) 1091.3137 1076 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1091.3137 good anyway. 1092.1297 1077 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1092.1297 (pause 0.11) 1092.2416 1078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1092.2416 Wherever we were, he made it good. 1093.6545 1079 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1093.6545 (pause 0.13) 1093.7885 1080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1093.7885 [] 1094.7211 1081 DCB_int_01 1094.1336 [So] 1094.4507 1082 DCB_int_01 1094.4507 (pause 0.15) 1094.5999 1083 DCB_int_01 1094.5999 before I go back to the other question- 1095.9521 1084 DCB_int_01 1096.0500 Now H Street- 1096.7635 1085 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1097.1505 [Mm-hm.] 1097.5095 1086 DCB_int_01 1097.1505 [You know], 1097.5468 1087 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1097.6447 [Mm-hm.] 1098.3162 1088 DCB_int_01 1097.6494 [now it's different.] 1098.5447 1089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1098.5540 [Mm.] 1099.0576 1090 DCB_int_01 1098.9457 [but] 1099.1695 1091 DCB_int_01 1099.9482 what did you think when you saw kind of H Street just kind of go down? Like it- 1103.4722 1092 DCB_int_01 1103.4722 (pause 0.14) 1103.6074 1093 DCB_int_01 1103.6074 it went way down. 1104.6426 1094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1104.6519 Yeah, it- it's- it was painful. It hurt 1107.3879 1095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1107.3879 (pause 0.44) 1107.8262 1096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1107.8262 to see 1108.3811 1097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1108.3811 (pause 0.98) 1109.3603 1098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1109.3603 you know, 1109.7893 1099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1109.7893 (pause 0.63) 1110.4234 1100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1110.4234 a place where- 1111.4213 1101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1111.4213 (pause 0.56) 1111.9844 1102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1111.9844 Like, all the places that you loved to go and- and- and- 1114.8427 1103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1114.8427 (pause 0.26) 1115.0992 1104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1115.0992 and visited and 1115.9432 1105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1115.9432 (pause 0.61) 1116.5493 1106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1116.5493 buy what you wanted to buy and stuff like that. 1118.7584 1107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1118.7584 (pause 0.41) 1119.1734 1108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1119.1734 Then it was gone. 1120.1853 1109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1120.1853 (pause 0.11) 1120.2925 1110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1120.2925 It was trashed and 1121.6727 1111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1121.6727 (pause 0.52) 1122.1950 1112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1122.1950 messed up. It- it hurt. 1123.5659 1113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1123.5659 (pause 0.93) 1124.4973 1114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1124.4973 It- To me it was- For me, it was painful 1126.5303 1115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1126.5303 (pause 0.60) 1127.1318 1116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1127.1318 to see it go down, 1128.0084 1117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1128.0084 (pause 0.34) 1128.3442 1118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1128.3442 and stay down so long. 1129.6265 1119 DCB_int_01 1130.1802 It was a long [time], 1130.9869 1120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1130.7771 [Mm-hm.] 1131.3319 1121 DCB_int_01 1131.3506 until- 1131.8775 1122 DCB_int_01 1131.8775 (pause 0.30) 1132.1759 1123 DCB_int_01 1132.1759 I would say, what? The [last three, four years, if] [that?] 1134.9084 1124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1133.0712 [Just recently, yeah.] 1134.5354 1125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1134.5354 (pause 0.24) 1134.7778 1126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1134.7778 [Just-] Mm. 1135.4073 1127 DCB_int_01 1135.6393 [So what are you feeling] now? Are you feeling like- 1138.3182 1128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1135.6440 [Just recently.] 1136.5766 1129 DCB_int_01 1138.7914 How do you feel about that 1140.2789 1130 DCB_int_01 1140.2789 (pause 0.17) 1140.4468 1131 DCB_int_01 1140.4468 area- Cause that's a big up and coming area [now.] 1142.4880 1132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1142.3014 [Mm-huh.] It is. [It is.] 1143.6257 1133 DCB_int_01 1143.3646 [And so] what do you- How do feel about that? 1145.1318 1134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1145.1551 Uh, 1145.6214 1135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1145.6214 (pause 0.24) 1145.8639 1136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1145.8639 well I'm- I'm glad that they're 1147.3700 1137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1147.3700 (pause 0.26) 1147.6265 1138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1147.6265 re- getting it- renewing it, and 1149.4905 1139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1149.4905 (pause 0.42) 1149.9148 1140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1149.9148 that it's coming up. 1150.6422 1141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1150.6422 (pause 0.39) 1151.0292 1142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1151.0292 1151.4023 1143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1151.4023 (pause 0.39) 1151.7940 1144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1151.7940 I think um- 1152.6079 1145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1152.6079 (pause 1.43) 1154.0357 1146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1154.0357 1154.2268 1147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1154.2268 (pause 0.26) 1154.4833 1148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1154.4833 I haven't been down there re- real recently, so I'm not sure. But I- I'm s- I think it's a lot of um, 1159.3094 1149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1159.3094 (pause 1.18) 1160.4880 1150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1160.4880 s- 1160.6092 1151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1160.6092 (pause 0.20) 1160.8097 1152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1160.8097 uh- t- different stores or 1162.4464 1153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1162.4464 (pause 0.26) 1162.7075 1154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1162.7075 I'm not sure exactly what's down there. I just know they 1164.7685 1155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1164.7685 (pause 0.39) 1165.1602 1156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1165.1602 fixing it up. 1165.7850 1157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1165.7850 (pause 0.77) 1166.5532 1158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1166.5532 But [uh-] 1166.9542 1159 DCB_int_01 1166.8330 [Right] now, it's a lot of um- There are some stores, [but it's a lot] of restaurants, [kind of] some of these little trendy 1172.7444 1160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1169.8639 [Mm-hm.] 1170.2323 1161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1170.2323 (pause 1.14) 1171.3747 1162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1171.3747 [Mm.] 1171.5985 1163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1173.0009 Mm-hm. 1173.3366 1164 DCB_int_01 1173.4392 places. Uh- you know, gentrification is- is running through the city, 1176.8011 1165 DCB_int_01 1176.8011 (pause 0.29) 1177.0949 1166 DCB_int_01 1177.0949 [and um], 1178.0182 1167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1177.2022 [Mm-hm.] 1177.6591 1168 DCB_int_01 1178.4693 1178.5719 1169 DCB_int_01 1178.5719 (pause 0.55) 1179.1175 1170 DCB_int_01 1179.1175 I think that that's where you're seeing um, a lot of these 1182.6333 1171 DCB_int_01 1182.6333 (pause 0.87) 1183.5006 1172 DCB_int_01 1183.5006 um- 1183.8550 1173 DCB_int_01 1183.8550 (pause 0.27) 1184.1243 1174 DCB_int_01 1184.1243 Black businesses are [coming back.] 1185.5651 1175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1184.9776 [Mm-mm.] Mm-hm. 1186.0640 1176 DCB_int_01 1186.3671 Um, 1187.2717 1177 DCB_int_01 1187.2717 (pause 0.47) 1187.7427 1178 DCB_int_01 1187.7427 and it's a lot of restaurants. [It's also a lot of] little like, dives though. It's not like these nice fancy you know, [seven course] meals. [It's a lot] of- 1195.3782 1179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1189.3782 [Restaurants.] 1190.0590 1180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1190.0590 (pause 3.45) 1193.5049 1181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1193.5049 [Mm-hm.] 1193.8732 1182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1193.8732 (pause 0.90) 1194.7685 1183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1194.7685 [Mm-hm.] 1195.1602 1184 DCB_int_01 1195.6766 There's like a wonderful oyster bar down there [but if you walk] up to the door, it looks so rundown. 1200.3022 1185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1197.8962 [Mm-hm.] 1198.3495 1186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1200.4234 [Mm-hm.] 1200.8105 1187 DCB_int_01 1200.6426 [And you] walk in, and it's a whole different [world. So they're still] 1203.5744 1188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1202.5066 [Different world.] 1203.3226 1189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1203.3226 (pause 0.12) 1203.4392 1190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1203.4392 [Mm-hm.] 1203.9428 1191 DCB_int_01 1204.8800 doing some- It's still undergoing some [changing- can most] definitely [see the difference.] But you tell /RD-NAME-2/ to take you over there one day. 1211.0945 1192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1207.0518 [I see.] 1207.6533 1193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1207.6533 (pause 0.78) 1208.4320 1194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1208.4320 [Mm-hm.] 1208.9589 1195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1208.9589 (pause 2.14) 1211.0945 1196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1211.0945 Okay, yeah [cause we-] 1212.1437 1197 DCB_int_01 1211.6028 [Y'all ride] through. 1212.4654 1198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1212.8851 We had talked about d- doing that, and- and especially at U Street 1216.4044 1199 DCB_int_01 1216.7635 [Mm.] 1217.0759 1200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1216.8707 [because] I was more- 1217.8266 1201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1218.6473 As- as a older person, I was more familiar with U Street 1221.7050 1202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1221.7050 (pause 0.24) 1221.9474 1203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1221.9474 than I was Seventh- 1222.9546 1204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1222.9546 (pause 0.14) 1223.0992 1205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1223.0992 I mean uh, H. 1223.9851 1206 DCB_int_01 1224.2229 Mm. 1224.4981 1207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1224.4747 H was when I was a younger ch- was like, a child really. 1227.3413 1208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1228.0314 Now, 1228.7028 1209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1228.7028 (pause 0.15) 1228.8567 1210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1228.8567 cause when we moved from that area, 1230.3535 1211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1230.3535 (pause 0.44) 1230.7965 1212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1230.7965 I was 1231.3094 1213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1231.3094 (pause 0.24) 1231.5507 1214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1231.5507 ten. I was eleven. 1232.6558 1215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1232.6558 (pause 0.62) 1233.2713 1216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1233.2713 Yeah, eleven. 1233.9055 1217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1233.9055 (pause 0.62) 1234.5256 1218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1234.5256 So but I- When I went 1235.7800 1219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1235.7800 (pause 0.18) 1235.9572 1220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1235.9572 to H Street, it was with- 1237.1928 1221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1237.1928 (pause 0.09) 1237.2814 1222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1237.2814 usually with my sisters or my mother or whatever 1239.6210 1223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1239.6210 (pause 0.21) 1239.8262 1224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1239.8262 cause we- 1240.1060 1225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1240.1060 (pause 0.52) 1240.6236 1226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1240.6236 we would go to the different stores down there. 1242.2556 1227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1242.2556 (pause 0.48) 1242.7359 1228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1242.7359 But U Street I remember 1244.3994 1229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1244.3994 (pause 1.13) 1245.5324 1230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1245.5324 1245.6071 1231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1245.6071 (pause 0.09) 1245.6956 1232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1245.6956 as in /RD-SCHOOL-2/ high school, we would go down- we would 1247.8313 1233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1247.8313 (pause 0.35) 1248.1810 1234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1248.1810 sneak out and go to Ben's Chili Bowl and 1250.2641 1235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1250.2641 (pause 0.12) 1250.3854 1236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1250.3854 t- you know. 1250.9682 1237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1250.9682 (pause 0.47) 1251.4392 1238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1251.4392 So 1251.8728 1239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1251.8728 (pause 0.32) 1252.1946 1240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1252.1946 and- and come on down to the Florida Avenue Grill right below [um], 1256.1009 1241 DCB_int_01 1255.7419 [Mm-hm.] 1256.1243 1242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1256.3900 /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1256.9636 1243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1256.9636 (pause 0.60) 1257.5604 1244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1257.5604 And so I- I remember those places 1259.9758 1245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1259.9758 (pause 0.91) 1260.8897 1246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1260.8897 more than I do s- 1261.7104 1247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1261.7104 (pause 0.21) 1261.9191 1248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1261.9191 H Street. 1262.4087 1249 DCB_int_01 1262.8470 What was the experience on U Street? 1264.3671 1250 DCB_int_01 1264.3671 (pause 0.13) 1264.4930 1251 DCB_int_01 1264.4930 That was one of the very first places I did research was U Street. 1267.2534 1252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1267.3001 Mm-hm. 1267.6964 1253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1267.6964 (pause 0.85) 1268.5439 1254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1268.5439 Um, 1269.0522 1255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1269.0522 (pause 0.45) 1269.5045 1256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1269.5045 most of my experience was before the riots 1272.0038 1257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1272.0038 (pause 0.39) 1272.3955 1258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1272.3955 in- 1272.7918 1259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1272.7918 (pause 0.84) 1273.6346 1260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1273.6346 Well all of it r- actually. 1275.1594 1261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1275.1594 (pause 0.56) 1275.7190 1262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1275.7190 And like I say, we would go to t- 1277.2297 1263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1277.2297 (pause 0.20) 1277.4302 1264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1277.4302 Ben's Chili Bowl. We'd go to the theaters there, the Booker T 1280.4507 1265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1280.4507 (pause 0.45) 1280.8983 1266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1280.8983 and the Lincoln Theatre. 1282.3531 1267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1282.3531 (pause 0.55) 1282.9064 1268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1282.9064 And we'd go there, u- those places. 1284.7498 1269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1284.7498 (pause 0.49) 1285.2441 1270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1285.2441 Um, 1285.7570 1271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1285.7570 (pause 1.33) 1287.0895 1272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1287.0895 uh- uh, 1287.9894 1273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1287.9894 (pause 0.41) 1288.3951 1274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1288.3951 my fath- my stepfather had a friend that had um, 1291.1462 1275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1291.1462 (pause 0.55) 1291.6918 1276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1291.6918 a photography place there called Scurlock. /I don't know if that is- was in your/ 1295.3976 1277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1295.3976 (pause 0.28) 1295.6820 1278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1295.6820 s- 1295.8173 1279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1295.8173 (pause 0.56) 1296.3815 1280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1296.3815 research? 1296.9597 1281 DCB_int_01 1297.2534 [/Mm-mm/.] 1297.4819 1282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1297.2721 [Sc-] 1297.5332 1283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1297.6545 He was a black uh, 1298.7864 1284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1298.7864 (pause 0.68) 1299.4672 1285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1299.4672 photographer, 1300.2086 1286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1300.2086 (pause 0.51) 1300.7215 1287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1300.7215 very- 1301.0759 1288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1301.0759 (pause 0.20) 1301.2764 1289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1301.2764 very big I think I've heard, 1302.8851 1290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1302.8851 (pause 0.08) 1302.9690 1291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1302.9690 that 1303.2115 1292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1303.2115 (pause 0.23) 1303.4388 1293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1303.4388 you know, a lot of people used his service so. 1305.5324 1294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1305.5324 (pause 0.68) 1306.2086 1295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1306.2086 I remember going 1307.1714 1296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1307.1714 (pause 0.29) 1307.4582 1297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1307.4582 to that studio to have pictures taken. I remember um, 1310.5206 1298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1310.5206 (pause 1.15) 1311.6677 1299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1311.6677 uh, the um, 1312.6049 1300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1312.6049 (pause 1.10) 1313.7054 1301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1313.7054 /started/- 1314.1763 1302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1314.1763 (pause 0.17) 1314.3488 1303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1314.3488 No um- 1314.9084 1304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1314.9084 (pause 0.94) 1315.8445 1305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1315.8445 What's the Mason's 1316.8284 1306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1316.8284 (pause 0.15) 1316.9822 1307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1316.9822 um- 1317.2387 1308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1317.2387 (pause 2.16) 1319.4023 1309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1319.4023 They had a place down there. 1320.6939 1310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1320.6939 (pause 0.21) 1320.8991 1311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1320.8991 I think they still did too. 1322.1989 1312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1322.1989 (pause 1.06) 1323.2620 1313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1323.2620 Uh- 1323.6257 1314 DCB_int_01 1323.9661 On U Street? 1324.5490 1315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1324.9267 Mm-hm. 1325.3230 1316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1325.3230 (pause 1.20) 1326.5214 1317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1326.5214 Masonic Temple, 1327.4481 1318 DCB_int_01 1327.5461 [Mm-hm.] 1328.0030 1319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1327.6300 [the uh-huh] Yeah. 1328.5719 1320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1329.1314 And my stepfather was a 1330.4184 1321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1330.4184 (pause 0.17) 1330.5863 1322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1330.5863 thirty third degree Mason. 1332.3255 1323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1332.3255 (pause 0.70) 1333.0250 1324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1333.0250 And so we went there for their activities and 1335.6630 1325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1335.6630 (pause 0.29) 1335.9521 1326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1335.9521 /it was/ so- 1336.4650 1327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1336.4650 (pause 1.19) 1337.6587 1328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1337.6587 It was mainly the kind of places I remember on from U Street. 1340.7953 1329 DCB_int_01 1341.2760 Do you remember- 1342.2272 1330 DCB_int_01 1342.2272 (pause 0.59) 1342.8194 1331 DCB_int_01 1342.8194 Cause I've- I've never 1343.7567 1332 DCB_int_01 1343.7567 (pause 0.14) 1343.8965 1333 DCB_int_01 1343.8965 quite got the story, and maybe you can give it to me. 1346.4227 1334 DCB_int_01 1346.4227 (pause 1.49) 1347.9148 1335 DCB_int_01 1347.9148 After the riots, I know Ben's was one of the only places that didn't get 1351.7792 1336 DCB_int_01 1351.7792 (pause 0.15) 1351.9331 1337 DCB_int_01 1351.9331 destroyed. [Do you remember] that? 1353.9941 1338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1352.9076 [Mm, mm, mm.] 1353.4812 1339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1354.2832 I do. 1354.7168 1340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1354.7168 (pause 0.13) 1354.8474 1341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1354.8474 I remember that. 1355.5655 1342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1355.5655 (pause 1.14) 1356.7079 1343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1356.7079 That- You m- Do I remember that it didn't get [destroyed?] 1359.0848 1344 DCB_int_01 1358.8750 [Mm-hm.] 1359.3599 1345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1359.4065 Uh-huh, I do remember [that.] 1360.6469 1346 DCB_int_01 1360.4790 [And] what- 1360.9313 1347 DCB_int_01 1361.1831 Why? 1361.5095 1348 DCB_int_01 1361.5095 (pause 0.18) 1361.6867 1349 DCB_int_01 1361.6867 Why do you think that was the case? 1363.2943 1350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1364.9263 [//] 1365.5324 1351 DCB_int_01 1364.9263 [From your opinion] or from what you saw? 1367.1289 1352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1368.1110 I think 1368.6566 1353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1368.6566 (pause 0.35) 1369.0110 1354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1369.0110 maybe- I think a big part of it was the relationship that the- 1372.3391 1355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1372.3391 (pause 0.23) 1372.5723 1356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1372.5723 the owners had built up with the community there. 1375.1369 1357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1375.1369 (pause 0.61) 1375.7512 1358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1375.7512 I think um- 1376.5765 1359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1376.5765 (pause 1.50) 1378.0780 1360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1378.0780 I don't know if things happened- if- if 1380.3955 1361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1380.3955 (pause 0.19) 1380.5820 1362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1380.5820 people came in 1381.5507 1363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1381.5507 (pause 0.41) 1381.9564 1364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1381.9564 that maybe couldn't afford food and was given food. 1384.6657 1365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1384.6657 (pause 0.08) 1384.7448 1366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1384.7448 That may have happened. I don't know, 1386.2836 1367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1386.2836 (pause 0.44) 1386.7219 1368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1386.7219 but I think that 1387.4633 1369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1387.4633 (pause 0.45) 1387.9098 1370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1387.9098 those um- 1388.6092 1371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1388.6092 (pause 0.48) 1389.0848 1372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1389.0848 Cause it- You know, you could go in there and they knew who you were. 1391.5795 1373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1391.5795 (pause 0.96) 1392.5400 1374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1392.5400 And y- y- I- I think they built up a good relationship with- 1395.4019 1375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1395.4019 (pause 0.18) 1395.5837 1376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1395.5837 t- with the uh, community. 1396.9500 1377 DCB_int_01 1397.5888 Mm. 1398.0877 1378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1398.2276 I think that's a big chunk of it. 1399.5612 1379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1399.5612 (pause 0.47) 1400.0263 1380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1400.0263 And they, provided a good service, 1402.2432 1381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1402.2432 (pause 0.07) 1402.3158 1382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1402.3158 you know. 1402.7168 1383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1402.7168 (pause 1.31) 1404.0271 1384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1404.0271 But some of the other places did too, so why did- 1406.3714 1385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1406.3714 (pause 0.55) 1406.9263 1386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1406.9263 I'm not really sure why they chose not to- 1409.0153 1387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1409.0153 (pause 0.15) 1409.1645 1388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1409.1645 didn't choose to tear that up 1410.3162 1389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1410.3162 (pause 0.23) 1410.5493 1390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1410.5493 too. 1410.7872 1391 DCB_int_01 1412.0496 Let me ask you this, what do you feel like, 1414.1340 1392 DCB_int_01 1414.1340 (pause 0.16) 1414.2972 1393 DCB_int_01 1414.2972 1414.7168 1394 DCB_int_01 1414.7168 (pause 0.35) 1415.0712 1395 DCB_int_01 1415.0712 with so many 1415.9432 1396 DCB_int_01 1415.9432 (pause 0.14) 1416.0877 1397 DCB_int_01 1416.0877 people- Or how do you feel that so many people 1418.4926 1398 DCB_int_01 1418.4926 (pause 0.76) 1419.2573 1399 DCB_int_01 1419.2573 being forced out of their homes, 1421.2437 1400 DCB_int_01 1421.2437 (pause 0.78) 1422.0224 1401 DCB_int_01 1422.0224 um- 1422.5540 1402 DCB_int_01 1422.5540 (pause 2.23) 1424.7864 1403 DCB_int_01 1424.7864 In- in trying to clean up the city, 1426.3904 1404 DCB_int_01 1426.3904 (pause 0.36) 1426.7495 1405 DCB_int_01 1426.7495 a lot of people are being forced out 1428.3582 1406 DCB_int_01 1428.3582 (pause 0.67) 1429.0250 1407 DCB_int_01 1429.0250 um, because they can't afford to live in the city. 1430.9263 1408 DCB_int_01 1430.9263 (pause 0.46) 1431.3832 1409 DCB_int_01 1431.3832 But the city is kind of getting this facelift, so 1433.7435 1410 DCB_int_01 1433.7435 (pause 0.85) 1434.5960 1411 DCB_int_01 1434.5960 talk about how you feel about the city getting a facelift, but also people being forced out. Cause it's like a good bad thing happening at the same time. 1441.6311 1412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1441.5655 Mm-hm. 1442.3201 1413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1442.5952 Mm-hm. 1443.1314 1414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1443.1314 (pause 0.74) 1443.8745 1415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1443.8745 1443.9817 1416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1443.9817 (pause 0.53) 1444.5070 1417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1444.5070 Well, 1444.7588 1418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1444.7588 (pause 1.00) 1445.7613 1419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1445.7613 definitely 1446.9923 1420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1446.9923 (pause 0.73) 1447.7244 1421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1447.7244 they're not re- 1448.6139 1422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1448.6139 (pause 0.17) 1448.7817 1423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1448.7817 uh, 1449.1175 1424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1449.1175 (pause 0.57) 1449.6863 1425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1449.6863 facelifting 1450.6282 1426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1450.6282 (pause 0.27) 1450.8940 1427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1450.8940 the city 1451.4380 1428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1451.4380 (pause 0.66) 1452.1017 1429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1452.1017 for 1452.6100 1430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1452.6100 (pause 1.11) 1453.7197 1431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1453.7197 people that can't afford it. 1454.9309 1432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1454.9309 (pause 0.81) 1455.7376 1433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1455.7376 I mean, it's- it- To m- It- It seems like to me that they're definitely 1458.8804 1434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1458.8804 (pause 1.10) 1459.9797 1435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1459.9797 steering toward 1460.9542 1436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1460.9542 (pause 0.75) 1461.7003 1437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1461.7003 the high high 1462.9043 1438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1462.9043 (pause 0.24) 1463.1458 1439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1463.1458 high 1463.6401 1440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1463.6401 (pause 0.12) 1463.7567 1441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1463.7567 end, 1464.0924 1442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1464.0924 (pause 0.12) 1464.2136 1443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1464.2136 the highest end, you know. 1465.4913 1444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1465.4913 (pause 0.33) 1465.8165 1445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1465.8165 You got to have- make big /buck/- 1467.1280 1446 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1467.1280 (pause 0.14) 1467.2713 1447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1467.2713 bucks to live 1468.1233 1448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1468.1233 (pause 0.13) 1468.2552 1449 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1468.2552 in those condominiums, 1469.8499 1450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1469.8499 (pause 0.87) 1470.7172 1451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1470.7172 and um, 1471.4027 1452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1471.4027 (pause 0.68) 1472.0869 1453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1472.0869 even t- t- looking at the office places and stuff, they just 1475.2484 1454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1475.2484 (pause 0.16) 1475.4069 1455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1475.4069 probably big 1475.9572 1456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1475.9572 (pause 0.21) 1476.1623 1457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1476.1623 paying jobs 1477.1975 1458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1477.1975 (pause 0.35) 1477.5472 1459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1477.5472 in those places, you know. 1478.7957 1460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1478.7957 (pause 0.48) 1479.2760 1461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1479.2760 You gotta have some kind of education. 1480.9826 1462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1480.9826 (pause 0.21) 1481.1924 1463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1481.1924 Y- Degrees nowadays, a high school diploma don't get it. 1484.2781 1464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1484.2781 (pause 0.27) 1484.5439 1465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1484.5439 /Well I don't feel like something sliding out/. 1485.7749 1466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1485.7749 (pause 0.49) 1486.2645 1467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1486.2645 A [high school] diploma doesn't get it, 1487.8686 1468 DCB_int_01 1486.5256 [/Right/.] 1486.8474 1469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1487.9572 so you need degrees to get- you can get the jobs that are in the city [down there, I] think. 1493.1645 1470 DCB_int_01 1492.1573 [/Mm-hm/.] 1492.5676 1471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1493.6914 And so 1494.2696 1472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1494.2696 (pause 2.68) 1496.9496 1473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1496.9496 it's- it's unfortunate that we're being 1499.2204 1474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1499.2204 (pause 0.41) 1499.6308 1475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1499.6308 pushed out. 1500.1996 1476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1500.1996 (pause 1.81) 1502.0123 1477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1502.0123 Um, 1502.3527 1478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1502.3527 (pause 0.52) 1502.8750 1479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1502.8750 I say we, but I- I- I feel like it's we. 1505.2950 1480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1505.2950 (pause 0.69) 1505.9805 1481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1505.9805 It's directed toward 1507.1369 1482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1507.1369 (pause 0.81) 1507.9424 1483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1507.9424 low income black people. 1509.1221 1484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1509.1221 (pause 0.68) 1509.8029 1485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1509.8029 And they- they're not building it up for low income black people. 1512.5856 1486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1512.5856 (pause 1.33) 1513.9199 1487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1513.9199 For black people, unless you have a lot of money. There are a lot of us that do have a lot of money, but 1518.3530 1488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1518.3530 (pause 1.72) 1520.0683 1489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1520.0683 it's ch- it's definitely shifting 1521.7842 1490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1521.7842 (pause 0.13) 1521.9148 1491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1521.9148 1522.3205 1492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1522.3205 (pause 1.18) 1523.5049 1493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1523.5049 t- all the way- 1524.3069 1494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1524.3069 (pause 0.40) 1524.7079 1495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1524.7079 all the way around, it's shifting. 1526.1441 1496 DCB_int_01 1526.5393 Mm-hm. 1526.9542 1497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1527.1454 [Mm.] 1527.6863 1498 DCB_int_01 1527.1501 [Especially] like, you can see most definitely in- 1529.2764 1499 DCB_int_01 1529.6447 on the other side of the river. 1531.2068 1500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1531.4493 Mm-hm. 1531.9762 1501 DCB_int_01 1532.0357 And so now we're starting to see it in 1533.9474 1502 DCB_int_01 1533.9474 (pause 1.18) 1535.1225 1503 DCB_int_01 1535.1225 the Northeast, 1535.9805 1504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1535.9665 Mm-hm. 1536.3395 1505 DCB_int_01 1536.4001 [Southeast.] 1537.3933 1506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1536.7498 [Southeast.] Yeah. 1537.7850 1507 DCB_int_01 1538.3201 And I don't know how that's gonna affect- 1540.4184 1508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1540.3298 Yeah. 1540.7588 1509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1540.8940 It's l- it- it's like it's a takeover. [] 1543.7384 1510 DCB_int_01 1543.2208 [Mm.] 1543.6498 1511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1543.8305 /So/ it's like, 1544.5019 1512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1544.5019 (pause 0.64) 1545.1408 1513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1545.1408 well you know, to come to Southeast, 1547.3510 1514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1547.3510 (pause 0.12) 1547.4722 1515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1547.4722 cause 1547.7940 1516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1547.7940 (pause 0.16) 1547.9572 1517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1547.9572 uh- 1548.1250 1518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1548.1250 (pause 0.11) 1548.2323 1519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1548.2323 they not building those places up 1550.0077 1520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1550.0077 (pause 1.26) 1551.2713 1521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1551.2713 for us to come- 1552.1806 1522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1552.1806 (pause 0.13) 1552.3112 1523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1552.3112 to- to remain in 'em, 1553.3836 1524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1553.3836 (pause 0.12) 1553.5049 1525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1553.5049 you know? 1553.9338 1526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1553.9338 (pause 0.48) 1554.4095 1527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1554.4095 So it's- 1554.9410 1528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1554.9410 (pause 0.68) 1555.6171 1529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1555.6171 it's- 1555.8689 1530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1555.8689 (pause 0.77) 1556.6372 1531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1556.6372 it's gonna be all- predominantly white 1558.4790 1532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1558.4790 (pause 1.14) 1559.6168 1533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1559.6168 in a matter of years. 1560.7079 1534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1560.7079 (pause 0.82) 1561.5239 1535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1561.5239 [/And so that's-/] 1562.0042 1536 DCB_int_01 1561.6393 [What do you-] 1561.9890 1537 DCB_int_01 1562.1895 What do you think about the violence that's going on? Like, 1564.6236 1538 DCB_int_01 1564.6236 (pause 0.23) 1564.8520 1539 DCB_int_01 1564.8520 /espe-/ I know, 1565.7660 1540 DCB_int_01 1565.7660 (pause 0.39) 1566.1577 1541 DCB_int_01 1566.1577 um, 1566.5074 1542 DCB_int_01 1566.5074 (pause 0.71) 1567.2161 1543 DCB_int_01 1567.2161 when I've talked to some people, they talk about the violence they see. 1570.0360 1544 DCB_int_01 1570.0360 (pause 0.55) 1570.5816 1545 DCB_int_01 1570.5816 Do you feel like- And I know, /RD-NAME-2/ lives in DC, 1573.5880 1546 DCB_int_01 1573.5880 (pause 0.83) 1574.4134 1547 DCB_int_01 1574.4134 do you feel like you see a lot of violence? Or do you feel like, 1576.7774 1548 DCB_int_01 1576.7774 (pause 0.14) 1576.9173 1549 DCB_int_01 1576.9173 he's in a lot of violence, do you worry about [that?] 1579.2441 1550 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1579.0716 [Oh] Lord, yes. Every day, 1580.7118 1551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1581.1548 I pray for him. 1582.0827 1552 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1582.0827 (pause 0.84) 1582.9220 1553 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1582.9220 I pray for that whole 1584.3908 1554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1584.3908 (pause 0.58) 1584.9737 1555 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1584.9737 /RD-WORK-3/, 1585.7617 1556 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1585.7617 (pause 0.11) 1585.8725 1557 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1585.8725 the whole 1586.3900 1558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1586.3900 (pause 0.26) 1586.6512 1559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1586.6512 /RD-WORK-1/. 1587.0941 1560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1587.0941 (pause 0.89) 1587.9847 1561 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1587.9847 You know, that /God v- could-/ cause 1589.5235 1562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1589.5235 (pause 1.02) 1590.5447 1563 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1590.5447 people today are so- 1592.0776 1564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1592.0776 (pause 1.21) 1593.2853 1565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1593.2853 They a- They don't have any 1594.8847 1566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1594.8847 (pause 0.46) 1595.3463 1567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1595.3463 s- sense of- of humanity. No um- 1598.0928 1568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1598.0928 (pause 0.46) 1598.5532 1569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1598.5532 No- They don't care about people. They don't care about themselves 1601.7567 1570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1601.7567 (pause 0.11) 1601.8639 1571 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1601.8639 to do the things that they're doing. 1603.2907 1572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1603.2907 (pause 0.14) 1603.4353 1573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1603.4353 I don't think. 1604.2035 1574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1604.2035 (pause 0.62) 1604.8190 1575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1604.8190 And so yes, I worry about him every day 1607.6214 1576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1607.6214 (pause 0.18) 1607.8033 1577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1607.8033 cause he's in the heart of it. 1609.0902 1578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1609.0902 (pause 1.30) 1610.3854 1579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1610.3854 He's 1610.6418 1580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1610.6418 (pause 0.12) 1610.7631 1581 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1610.7631 in the heart of it (laughing), 1611.7190 1582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1611.7190 (pause 0.47) 1612.1899 1583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1612.1899 and I- I just pray, Lord, let him- 1614.1437 1584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1614.1437 (pause 0.31) 1614.4561 1585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1614.4561 let something come where he can 1615.8037 1586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1615.8037 (pause 0.60) 1616.3994 1587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1616.3994 at least move away from some- I know he wants to stay in close to his job, bu 1620.8588 1588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1620.8588 (pause 0.86) 1621.7151 1589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1621.7151 I don't know. 1622.1907 1590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1622.1907 (pause 0.69) 1622.8796 1591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1622.8796 So, 1623.1641 1592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1623.1641 (pause 0.76) 1623.9195 1593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1623.9195 but the- the- the violence now, 1625.7567 1594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1625.7567 (pause 0.47) 1626.2276 1595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1626.2276 especially here in the last few 1628.1196 1596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1628.1196 (pause 0.32) 1628.4367 1597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1628.4367 months, 1629.0475 1598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1629.0475 (pause 0.21) 1629.2620 1599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1629.2620 weeks? 1629.7796 1600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1629.7796 (pause 2.70) 1632.4794 1601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1632.4794 And I hate 'em talk- You know, hear 'em on the news, and they talking about 1636.0547 1602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1636.0547 (pause 0.07) 1636.1293 1603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1636.1293 /under/ the violence and what's causing it. 1637.9945 1604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1637.9945 (pause 0.54) 1638.5307 1605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1638.5307 And then someone- 1639.2255 1606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1639.2255 (pause 0.15) 1639.3793 1607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1639.3793 I've heard somebody say, 1640.6045 1608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1640.6045 (pause 0.14) 1640.7398 1609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1640.7398 which, 1641.0335 1610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1641.0335 (pause 0.14) 1641.1781 1611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1641.1781 t- is kind of close to what I feel- that right now, 1643.5981 1612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1643.5981 (pause 0.40) 1643.9991 1613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1643.9991 after all of these um, 1645.3747 1614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1645.3747 (pause 0.53) 1645.9004 1615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1645.9004 1645.9844 1616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1645.9844 (pause 0.55) 1646.5299 1617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1646.5299 police attacks on young black men, 1648.4277 1618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1648.4277 (pause 1.04) 1649.4676 1619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1649.4676 and 1649.8546 1620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1649.8546 (pause 0.96) 1650.8151 1621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1650.8151 that the police are getting 1652.0123 1622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.0123 (pause 0.13) 1652.1429 1623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.1429 you know, 1652.5859 1624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.5859 (pause 0.33) 1652.9123 1625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1652.9123 really getting to see what they're doing, 1654.9127 1626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1654.9127 (pause 0.12) 1655.0339 1627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1655.0339 is coming out. 1655.8452 1628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1655.8452 (pause 1.08) 1656.9224 1629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1656.9224 And so now maybe the police are kind of pulling back and saying, 1660.1246 1630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1660.1246 (pause 0.55) 1660.6702 1631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1660.6702 w- You know, we don't wanna do something that's gonna get us 1662.9364 1632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1662.9364 (pause 0.12) 1663.0529 1633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1663.0529 caught up in anything. 1664.2781 1634 DCB_int_01 1664.2968 /Right/. 1664.6418 1635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1664.7211 And so we'll just 1665.9288 1636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1665.9288 (pause 0.28) 1666.2132 1637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1666.2132 let them- 1666.9080 1638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1666.9080 (pause 0.22) 1667.1318 1639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1667.1318 It's black on black, let 'em- lot of it is black on black. 1670.1569 1640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1670.1569 (pause 0.55) 1670.7071 1641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1670.7071 Let him kill hisself. Hey. 1671.8449 1642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1671.8449 (pause 1.37) 1673.2158 1643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1673.2158 And so 1673.7100 1644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1673.7100 (pause 0.50) 1674.2136 1645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1674.2136 by them pulling back, then- then 1675.9377 1646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1675.9377 (pause 0.11) 1676.0496 1647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1676.0496 poor little crazy, 1676.9542 1648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1676.9542 (pause 0.56) 1677.5185 1649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1677.5185 young folk- or not- not just young folk cause the last 1680.3535 1650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1680.3535 (pause 0.11) 1680.4607 1651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1680.4607 few things I've hard standing out uh, about 1683.0755 1652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1683.0755 (pause 0.46) 1683.5324 1653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1683.5324 somebody shooting all- the people went in the theater shooting up some- They were in their fifties, so you can't put it all on [young people.] 1689.0941 1654 DCB_int_01 1688.3014 [Just young people.] 1689.1361 1655 DCB_int_01 1689.2620 Yeah. 1689.5231 1656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1689.5884 You- And so it says like, people just 1691.5002 1657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1691.5002 (pause 0.32) 1691.8219 1658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1691.8219 giving up. They don't care. 1692.9877 1659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1692.9877 (pause 0.54) 1693.5227 1660 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1693.5227 You know, 1693.8538 1661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1693.8538 (pause 0.07) 1693.9284 1662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1693.9284 if the police gonna pull back, hey, yeah, we gonna go out and do what we wanna do. 1697.0945 1663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1697.0945 (pause 0.67) 1697.7660 1664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1697.7660 That's what I think some people may be thinking. 1700.0275 1665 DCB_int_01 1700.3341 Mm-hm. 1700.8141 1666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1700.8237 And so that's- 1701.4951 1667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1701.4951 (pause 0.93) 1702.4231 1668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1702.4231 you know, they- 1702.9500 1669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1702.9500 (pause 1.51) 1704.4607 1670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1704.4607 Something is missing up here anyway, and so now this is just kicking 'em over the edge. 1708.7079 1671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1708.7079 (pause 1.08) 1709.7893 1672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1709.7893 And it's- it's- 1710.8478 1673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1710.8478 (pause 0.36) 1711.2115 1674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1711.2115 it's- it's sad. It's scary. 1713.3739 1675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1713.3739 (pause 1.41) 1714.7821 1676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1714.7821 It's- it's unfortunate. 1715.8686 1677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1715.8686 (pause 0.31) 1716.1763 1678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1716.1763 And I just hate to see so many of our young folks 1719.1827 1679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1719.1827 (pause 0.14) 1719.3180 1680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1719.3180 caught up in all of this. 1720.5629 1681 DCB_int_01 1720.8147 Yeah. 1721.2111 1682 DCB_int_01 1721.2111 (pause 0.12) 1721.3323 1683 DCB_int_01 1721.3323 It's- it's- 1722.1483 1684 DCB_int_01 1722.1483 (pause 1.10) 1723.2488 1685 DCB_int_01 1723.2488 I listened to some stories, so I was talking to some teens yesterday, 1726.3485 1686 DCB_int_01 1726.3485 (pause 1.47) 1727.8173 1687 DCB_int_01 1727.8173 just to hear- 1728.6659 1688 DCB_int_01 1728.6659 (pause 1.06) 1729.7279 1689 DCB_int_01 1729.7279 I can't imagine 1730.8097 1690 DCB_int_01 1730.8097 (pause 1.11) 1731.9148 1691 DCB_int_01 1731.9148 you know- 1732.2785 1692 DCB_int_01 1732.2785 (pause 0.56) 1732.8381 1693 DCB_int_01 1732.8381 I didn't grow up with a lot of money, but I can't imagine just 1735.6265 1694 DCB_int_01 1735.6265 (pause 0.75) 1736.3807 1695 DCB_int_01 1736.3807 somebody just got murdered next door to me. 1738.1876 1696 DCB_int_01 1738.1876 (pause 0.21) 1738.3951 1697 DCB_int_01 1738.3951 Like I can't imagine- [Or] while I'm 1740.1437 1698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1739.3790 [Mm.] 1739.6447 1699 DCB_int_01 1740.2649 walking down the street, 1741.2954 1700 DCB_int_01 1741.2954 (pause 0.12) 1741.4166 1701 DCB_int_01 1741.4166 somebody on the other side of the street is getting shot [or] 1743.6583 1702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1743.5371 [Shot.] 1743.8962 1703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1744.0174 Yeah. 1744.3298 1704 DCB_int_01 1744.6655 up- 1744.8614 1705 DCB_int_01 1744.8614 (pause 0.11) 1744.9733 1706 DCB_int_01 1744.9733 you know, 1745.4256 1707 DCB_int_01 1745.4256 (pause 0.55) 1745.9711 1708 DCB_int_01 1745.9711 beat up or actually- 1747.0933 1709 DCB_int_01 1747.0933 (pause 0.70) 1747.7885 1710 DCB_int_01 1747.7885 It- it- 1748.3667 1711 DCB_int_01 1748.3667 (pause 0.35) 1748.7118 1712 DCB_int_01 1748.7118 I c- It's just unfathomable to me. 1750.3718 1713 DCB_int_01 1750.3718 (pause 0.45) 1750.8241 1714 DCB_int_01 1750.8241 Like I just like- Oh my [goodness.] 1752.9737 1715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1752.4281 [Yes], I know. 1753.5239 1716 DCB_int_01 1753.5379 But this is their everyday [experience.] 1755.3180 1717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1754.8423 [Every] day. 1755.5837 1718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1755.6956 That's right. 1756.1806 1719 DCB_int_01 1756.9640 And I just s- f- 1757.6214 1720 DCB_int_01 1757.6214 (pause 0.15) 1757.7753 1721 DCB_int_01 1757.7753 get more- 1758.5167 1722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1759.0751 [How do they] deal [with it?] 1760.3154 1723 DCB_int_01 1759.0856 [it takes-] 1759.6393 1724 DCB_int_01 1759.6393 (pause 0.43) 1760.0730 1725 DCB_int_01 1760.0730 [It-] 1760.2921 1726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1760.7724 How are they dealing with it? 1762.1759 1727 DCB_int_01 1762.2365 I don't know. 1762.6795 1728 DCB_int_01 1762.6795 (pause 1.37) 1764.0458 1729 DCB_int_01 1764.0458 Only by God's Grace cause I cannot- 1766.0601 1730 DCB_int_01 1766.0601 (pause 1.16) 1767.2247 1731 DCB_int_01 1767.2247 I was just shaken up listening, 1768.8940 1732 DCB_int_01 1768.8940 (pause 0.82) 1769.7147 1733 DCB_int_01 1769.7147 and I can only imagine like, 1771.4621 1734 DCB_int_01 1771.4621 (pause 0.88) 1772.3434 1735 DCB_int_01 1772.3434 what it's like to live and walk in that /hood/. You know, like, the- 1775.1542 1736 DCB_int_01 1775.1542 (pause 0.36) 1775.5188 1737 DCB_int_01 1775.5188 the boy gets /??/, so he got to watch his back as he's walking from the Metro 1779.0667 1738 DCB_int_01 1779.0667 (pause 0.30) 1779.3692 1739 DCB_int_01 1779.3692 or from the bus. 1780.3904 1740 DCB_int_01 1780.3904 (pause 4.79) 1785.1827 1741 DCB_int_01 1785.1827 And [that's their reality.] 1786.3858 1742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1785.2946 [/That sounds so- s-/ That's] their reality. 1787.1225 1743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1788.0318 It's like um, when I saw the video of 1790.6267 1744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1790.6267 (pause 0.47) 1791.0988 1745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1791.0988 the young man being beat on the train, on the subway train. 1794.0131 1746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1794.0131 (pause 2.71) 1796.7258 1747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1796.7258 1797.1408 1748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1797.1408 (pause 0.34) 1797.4765 1749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1797.4765 People say, if I was on that train, you know, what- 1799.5935 1750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1799.5935 (pause 0.48) 1800.0691 1751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1800.0691 what- 1800.2276 1752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1800.2276 (pause 0.89) 1801.1136 1753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1801.1136 what do you do? 1801.7776 1754 DCB_int_01 1802.4413 Right. 1802.8144 1755 DCB_int_01 1802.8144 (pause 0.38) 1803.1921 1756 DCB_int_01 1803.1921 But you don't know if you wanna get involved because you don't want them to 1805.5655 1757 DCB_int_01 1805.5655 (pause 0.36) 1805.9292 1758 DCB_int_01 1805.9292 [escalate it and hurt other people] [or do you-] 1808.1394 1759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1806.2836 [That's- that's right.] 1807.3793 1760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1807.3793 (pause 0.21) 1807.5845 1761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1807.5845 [That's right.] 1808.2005 1762 DCB_int_01 1808.2735 What do you do? What do you sa- It's- It's tough. 1810.3811 1763 DCB_int_01 1810.3811 (pause 0.13) 1810.5070 1764 DCB_int_01 1810.5070 [It's-] 1810.9826 1765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1810.5210 [It is.] 1811.3976 1766 DCB_int_01 1811.5561 It's- 1812.0504 1767 DCB_int_01 1812.0504 (pause 0.91) 1812.9644 1768 DCB_int_01 1812.9644 [You know], I think it has to get a little darker before we see the dawn, [but] 1816.6562 1769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1813.0098 [/Well you-/] 1813.2803 1770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1813.2803 (pause 3.13) 1816.4091 1771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1816.4091 [Mm-hm.] 1817.0292 1772 DCB_int_01 1818.7778 I just pray that we- 1819.7057 1773 DCB_int_01 1819.7057 (pause 0.23) 1819.9377 1774 DCB_int_01 1819.9377 we [get /dawn/.] 1820.4962 1775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1820.0403 [An- And that's-] 1820.5719 1776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1820.7164 That's the word right there, 1821.5884 1777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1821.5884 (pause 0.11) 1821.6956 1778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1821.6956 pray. 1821.9708 1779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1821.9708 (pause 0.17) 1822.1386 1780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1822.1386 We gotta pray like never before. 1824.2556 1781 DCB_int_01 1824.4887 Mm-hm. 1824.8804 1782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1825.3922 And the Bible say, pray without [ceasing.] 1827.6210 1783 DCB_int_01 1826.9449 [Ceasing.] 1827.5931 1784 DCB_int_01 1827.8542 [Yes.] 1828.2645 1785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1827.9055 [And we got] to do- We 1828.9495 1786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1829.2158 I mean the church 1830.1782 1787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1830.1782 (pause 0.09) 1830.2649 1788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1830.2649 to me- 1830.7172 1789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1830.7172 (pause 0.63) 1831.3514 1790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1831.3514 And then I know the churches- Not all the churches are not- not doing anything. A lot of them are out there doing 1836.5913 1791 DCB_int_01 1836.8198 Right. 1837.1275 1792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1837.3607 what they supposed to be doing. 1838.4134 1793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1838.4134 (pause 0.49) 1838.9030 1794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1838.9030 But I think 1839.4485 1795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1839.4485 (pause 0.19) 1839.6397 1796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1839.6397 i- 1839.7423 1797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1839.7423 (pause 0.17) 1839.9148 1798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1839.9148 they /just need/- They just need to raise up like, 1842.0644 1799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1842.0644 (pause 0.51) 1842.5752 1800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1842.5752 Cedric woulda done (laughing), 1844.2280 1801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1844.2280 (pause 0.47) 1844.6978 1802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1844.6978 the lion. 1845.5511 1803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1845.5511 (pause 0.44) 1845.9894 1804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1845.9894 Just [raise up.] 1847.0292 1805 DCB_int_01 1846.5769 [Raise up.] 1847.0712 1806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1847.4163 And we're the church, and we- 1848.7219 1807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1848.7219 (pause 0.75) 1849.4726 1808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1849.4726 we not gonna take this anymore. 1850.9916 1809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1850.9916 (pause 0.13) 1851.1221 1810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1851.1221 We, you know, 1851.7842 1811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1851.7842 (pause 0.48) 1852.2645 1812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1852.2645 pray. I mean, come together. 1853.8779 1813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1853.8779 (pause 0.42) 1854.2975 1814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1854.2975 Put all these denominations 1855.6265 1815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1855.6265 (pause 0.10) 1855.7279 1816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1855.7279 down. Everybody just that know 1857.7796 1817 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1857.7796 (pause 0.58) 1858.3624 1818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1858.3624 a higher- 1858.9686 1819 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1858.9686 (pause 0.17) 1859.1365 1820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1859.1365 or know God 1860.0691 1821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1860.0691 (pause 0.14) 1860.2090 1822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1860.2090 come together and pray pray pray. 1862.1942 1823 DCB_int_01 1863.3319 [That's the only] way we gonna make it. 1864.6173 1824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1863.3553 [I mean-] 1863.7936 1825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1864.6655 That's the only way. 1865.7054 1826 DCB_int_01 1865.7427 That's the only way we gonna make it. I- It's- Mm. 1868.4180 1827 DCB_int_01 1868.4180 (pause 0.73) 1869.1454 1828 DCB_int_01 1869.1454 So I'm'a ask you a couple more questions. We gonna 1871.2297 1829 DCB_int_01 1871.2297 (pause 0.88) 1872.1064 1830 DCB_int_01 1872.1064 end it on a lighter note. 1873.2721 1831 DCB_int_01 1873.2721 (pause 2.62) 1875.8915 1832 DCB_int_01 1875.8915 Were you familiar with go go music? 1877.5208 1833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1877.9898 Little bit. 1879.0156 1834 DCB_int_01 1879.6171 A little bit, but you were- you were mostly- 1881.7469 1835 DCB_int_01 1881.7469 (pause 0.48) 1882.2272 1836 DCB_int_01 1882.2272 You weren't real big into go go. 1883.8592 1837 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1884.2509 No. 1884.5167 1838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1884.5167 (pause 0.32) 1884.8338 1839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1884.8338 I was into the 1886.0275 1840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1886.0275 (pause 0.93) 1886.9542 1841 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1886.9542 uh, Motown stuff. 1888.0221 1842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1888.0221 (pause 0.77) 1888.7914 1843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1888.7914 That's- That was my thing. 1890.0831 1844 DCB_int_01 1890.2929 [Uh-huh.] 1890.6333 1845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1890.4701 [Isley] Brothers and 1891.9098 1846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1892.7677 Teddy Pendergrass and Isaac Hayes, that kind of music. 1895.6864 1847 DCB_int_01 1896.7778 And 1897.1695 1848 DCB_int_01 1897.1695 (pause 0.26) 1897.4295 1849 DCB_int_01 1897.4295 what about 1898.1849 1850 DCB_int_01 1898.1849 (pause 0.40) 1898.5812 1851 DCB_int_01 1898.5812 um, mumbo sauce? 1900.0780 1852 DCB_int_01 1900.0780 (pause 0.40) 1900.4744 1853 DCB_int_01 1900.4744 [Do you eat a lot of mumbo] sauce? 1901.7846 1854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1900.4837 [Oh yeah.] 1901.2670 1855 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1901.8173 I didn't eat a lot, 1902.5773 1856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1902.5773 (pause 0.18) 1902.7545 1857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1902.7545 but I like it. [] 1904.5393 1858 DCB_int_01 1904.3387 [Now] what is mumbo sauce to you? 1905.8029 1859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1906.6049 To me, it's um- 1907.7193 1860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1907.7193 (pause 0.67) 1908.3908 1861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1908.3908 I think it's a combination of- 1910.0123 1862 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1910.0123 (pause 0.19) 1910.2035 1863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1910.2035 It's- it's got some hot sauce in it, 1912.0594 1864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1912.0594 (pause 0.17) 1912.2272 1865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1912.2272 and it's got some ketchup in it. 1913.5049 1866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1913.5049 (pause 2.26) 1915.7652 1867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1915.7652 Something that make it sweet, 1917.0662 1868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1917.0662 (pause 0.18) 1917.2480 1869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1917.2480 you know. 1917.7376 1870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1917.7376 (pause 0.54) 1918.2738 1871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1918.2738 That's my idea of mumbo- 1919.2158 1872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1919.2158 (pause 0.21) 1919.4256 1873 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1919.4256 That's how I would make mumbo sauce. 1920.9270 1874 DCB_int_01 1921.1788 Mm-hm. 1921.6591 1875 DCB_int_01 1921.6591 (pause 0.19) 1921.8491 1876 DCB_int_01 1921.8491 Now did you have a favorite place that you went to get your mumbo sauce? 1924.4744 1877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1925.4489 Uh, 1926.0178 1878 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1926.0178 (pause 0.10) 1926.1157 1879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1926.1157 n- but it wasn't in DC. 1927.7011 1880 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1927.7011 (pause 0.36) 1928.0590 1881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1928.0590 1928.8983 1882 DCB_int_01 1928.9449 Oh where'd you get it from? 1929.9614 1883 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1929.9801 It was a place on- 1931.3323 1884 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1931.3323 (pause 0.16) 1931.4909 1885 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1931.4909 on um- 1931.9572 1886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1931.9572 (pause 2.41) 1934.3667 1887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1934.3667 What is it, Eastern Avenue? 1935.6677 1888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1935.6677 (pause 0.48) 1936.1433 1889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1936.1433 Right- 1936.3671 1890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1936.3671 (pause 0.19) 1936.5583 1891 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1936.5583 Right at Chillum- 1937.4116 1892 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1937.4116 (pause 0.83) 1938.2416 1893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1938.2416 Chillum Road. 1938.9504 1894 DCB_int_01 1939.0996 Mm-hm. 1939.4009 1895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1940.2496 It was /called/ Hung Far, that was the name of it. It was a little Chinese carry out. 1943.8843 1896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1943.8843 (pause 1.15) 1945.0360 1897 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1945.0360 And when you- 1945.4184 1898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1945.4184 (pause 0.26) 1945.6795 1899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1945.6795 Like, when you going up 1946.6308 1900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1946.6308 (pause 0.34) 1946.9665 1901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1946.9665 Eastern Avenue and you- y- you come across Chillum, 1949.6045 1902 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1949.6045 (pause 0.43) 1950.0335 1903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1950.0335 and there's a little shopping place right here. 1951.9173 1904 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1951.9173 (pause 0.90) 1952.8126 1905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1952.8126 They're not there anymore, but 1953.9690 1906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1953.9690 (pause 0.18) 1954.1509 1907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1954.1509 they had the best mumbo sauce. 1956.7096 1908 DCB_int_01 1957.4417 And what would you normally order? 1958.6970 1909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1959.7219 The six piece wings. [] 1961.9636 1910 DCB_int_01 1961.5206 [The six] piece wings with the mumbo [sauce.] 1963.4464 1911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1963.0454 [With the mumbo] sauce. 1964.0805 1912 DCB_int_01 1964.2251 Did you do fries or fried [rice?] 1965.6799 1913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1965.3255 [Fries.] 1965.9970 1914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1966.1497 Fries. 1966.6020 1915 DCB_int_01 1966.5740 Okay, I'm- This fried rice thing is kind of weird to me. 1969.3951 1916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1969.5117 I [know (laughing)- ] That's right. 1973.0823 1917 DCB_int_01 1969.9173 [Chicken and mumbo sau- I- That's a little weird.] 1972.0949 1918 DCB_int_01 1973.1522 Um, 1973.6278 1919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1973.8936 1974.3366 1920 DCB_int_01 1975.1573 have you ever been a tourist in your own town? You know, like people 1978.6546 1921 DCB_int_01 1978.6546 (pause 0.15) 1978.8025 1922 DCB_int_01 1978.8025 come from 1979.4399 1923 DCB_int_01 1979.4399 (pause 0.49) 1979.9309 1924 DCB_int_01 1979.9309 all over the [place to] see the [monuments and] the museums, 1982.6214 1925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1980.4205 [Mm-hm.] 1981.0733 1926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1981.0733 (pause 0.43) 1981.5023 1927 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1981.5023 [Mm-hm.] 1981.9686 1928 DCB_int_01 1983.0411 and it's right in your backyard. Have you ever been a tourist in your own back [yard?] 1986.5931 1929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1986.3739 [] 1986.5511 1930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1986.7096 Yup. 1987.0314 1931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1987.0314 (pause 0.56) 1987.5956 1932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1987.5956 I- when I was much younger, 1989.1810 1933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1989.1810 (pause 0.30) 1989.4794 1934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1989.4794 we would go. 1989.9550 1935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1989.9550 (pause 0.41) 1990.3642 1936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1990.3642 My- that's one thing my father loved to do was go down to Smithsonian. 1994.0572 1937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1994.0572 (pause 0.84) 1994.9012 1938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1994.9012 And I remember one Sunday after church us going down to the- 1998.0382 1939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1998.0382 (pause 0.59) 1998.6304 1940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 1998.6304 the museum, the big red museum down 2000.6308 1941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2000.6308 (pause 0.16) 2000.7940 1942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2000.7940 on Seventh [Street?] 2001.6892 1943 DCB_int_01 2001.3349 [Mm], the Castle. 2002.3187 1944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2002.3047 He- [Yeah.] 2003.0263 1945 DCB_int_01 2002.6486 [Mm-hm.] 2003.1429 1946 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2003.7864 And I loved going in there. And we- we have been there several times. 2007.2098 1947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2007.2098 (pause 0.45) 2007.6613 1948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2007.6613 And we 2008.0576 1949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2008.0576 (pause 0.23) 2008.2907 1950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2008.2907 gone to- And I've been to the 2009.7584 1951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2009.7584 (pause 0.29) 2010.0475 1952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2010.0475 Air and Space, 2010.9568 1953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2010.9568 (pause 0.82) 2011.7721 1954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2011.7721 and I've been um- 2012.8266 1955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2012.8266 (pause 0.19) 2013.0131 1956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2013.0131 I've been up the monument stairs. 2015.0310 1957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2015.0310 (pause 0.26) 2015.2921 1958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2015.2921 I walked the monument stairs. I was sixteen. 2017.9276 1959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2017.9276 (pause 0.23) 2018.1551 1960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2018.1551 2019.1064 1961 DCB_int_01 2019.4561 I n- [have] yet to walk them. 2020.8456 1962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2019.6939 [I-] 2019.9317 1963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2021.0590 Oh! (sighing) 2021.5019 1964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2021.5019 (pause 0.50) 2022.0009 1965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2022.0009 It was- and it was fun because one thing, they- 2024.0246 1966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2024.0246 (pause 0.16) 2024.1831 1967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2024.1831 they kind of stretch out. Like, they're not tall. 2026.4959 1968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2026.4959 (pause 0.46) 2026.9564 1969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2026.9564 They were 2027.2875 1970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2027.2875 (pause 0.12) 2027.4087 1971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2027.4087 you know, kind of like this. So you wasn't 2029.0314 1972 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2029.0314 (pause 0.14) 2029.1713 1973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2029.1713 climbing so much. 2030.1738 1974 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2030.1738 (pause 1.01) 2031.1856 1975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2031.1856 But we did- I don't remember how long it took us to get up there. 2033.8843 1976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2033.8843 (pause 0.12) 2034.0055 1977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2034.0055 It was about- And it was about six of us. 2036.1411 1978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2036.1411 (pause 0.77) 2036.9105 1979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2036.9105 Yup, we walked up those steps. 2038.6358 1980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2038.6358 (pause 0.81) 2039.4460 1981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2039.4460 2039.5812 1982 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2039.5812 (pause 0.07) 2039.6512 1983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2039.6512 So that was a fun thing. 2040.8309 1984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2040.8309 (pause 0.70) 2041.5350 1985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2041.5350 And um- 2042.0950 1986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2042.0950 (pause 0.98) 2043.0737 1987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2043.0737 Where else did I used to go? 2044.2068 1988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2044.2068 (pause 1.43) 2045.6372 1989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2045.6372 Those were the main places I went. 2047.1806 1990 DCB_int_01 2047.5163 Have you been to MLK since it's been opened? 2049.7070 1991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2050.4959 The library? 2051.0026 1992 DCB_int_01 2051.1009 [No], no, the- 2051.8223 1993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2051.1103 [No.] 2051.3341 1994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2051.9776 [Oh, no, the-] Mm-hm. 2053.0873 1995 DCB_int_01 2051.9822 [/it's- that's the-/] 2052.6769 1996 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2053.3065 No I haven't been down there [yet.] 2054.5841 1997 DCB_int_01 2054.4442 [Oh] my God. 2055.1157 1998 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2055.3302 I know l- [I've heard], and I've seen pictures. 2057.9123 1999 DCB_int_01 2055.8851 [It's-] 2056.3141 2000 DCB_int_01 2056.3141 (pause 1.45) 2057.7631 2001 DCB_int_01 2057.7631 I think 2058.1268 2002 DCB_int_01 2058.5185 personally, I 2059.3158 2003 DCB_int_01 2059.3158 (pause 0.25) 2059.5629 2004 DCB_int_01 2059.5629 think that night time is the [best.] 2061.1670 2005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2061.0458 [Mm.] 2061.4095 2006 DCB_int_01 2061.5960 [There's a certain] 2062.4446 2007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2061.7498 [Mm-hm.] 2062.1928 2008 DCB_int_01 2062.6067 2062.7792 2009 DCB_int_01 2062.7792 (pause 0.78) 2063.5626 2010 DCB_int_01 2063.5626 just [spirit and] 2065.4883 2011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2064.8542 [Mm.] 2065.5536 2012 DCB_int_01 2066.5375 a certain tone and 2068.3047 2013 DCB_int_01 2068.3047 (pause 0.78) 2069.0869 2014 DCB_int_01 2069.0869 just this feeling comes over you. Like, 2071.4374 2015 DCB_int_01 2071.4374 (pause 0.62) 2072.0572 2016 DCB_int_01 2072.0572 this is history [remembered, what we've come through.] 2074.7279 2017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2073.1157 [I bet it's awesome.] 2074.6197 2018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2074.7372 [Yes.] 2075.3994 2019 DCB_int_01 2075.0730 [I- I] went 2075.5063 2020 DCB_int_01 2075.6931 this- actually the same day, 2076.8728 2021 DCB_int_01 2076.8728 (pause 0.34) 2077.2132 2022 DCB_int_01 2077.2132 I went in the day time, and it was awesome. 2078.9758 2023 DCB_int_01 2078.9758 (pause 0.08) 2079.0551 2024 DCB_int_01 2079.0551 It was amazing. 2079.8245 2025 DCB_int_01 2079.8245 (pause 0.61) 2080.4353 2026 DCB_int_01 2080.4353 But at night, there's some- And it wasn't a lot of people. 2082.6956 2027 DCB_int_01 2082.6956 (pause 0.17) 2082.8635 2028 DCB_int_01 2082.8635 It was really quiet, 2083.9826 2029 DCB_int_01 2083.9826 (pause 0.18) 2084.1598 2030 DCB_int_01 2084.1598 just very reverent, 2085.3162 2031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2085.3302 Mm. 2085.7872 2032 DCB_int_01 2086.6405 just [kind of-] and- 2087.5626 2033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2086.9611 [Mm.] 2087.3108 2034 DCB_int_01 2087.6978 I c- [I just can't even explain-] 2089.2319 2035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2087.8377 [Probably had the lights set up.] 2089.2226 2036 DCB_int_01 2089.7308 Yeah, I can't even explain it, and [you read] these quotes. And it's like you can just hear his [voice.] 2094.2527 2037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2091.1530 [Mm.] 2091.6146 2038 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2091.6146 (pause 2.10) 2093.7164 2039 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2093.7164 [Mm.] 2094.1734 2040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2094.4205 Mm. 2094.6490 2041 DCB_int_01 2094.6537 And you can just think about our people and how far we've come. It's just a beautiful- So if you ever get a chance, 2100.6350 2042 DCB_int_01 2100.6350 (pause 1.25) 2101.8894 2043 DCB_int_01 2101.8894 just- 2102.1785 2044 DCB_int_01 2102.1785 (pause 0.47) 2102.6447 2045 DCB_int_01 2102.6447 just go down there and- 2104.0047 2046 DCB_int_01 2104.0047 (pause 0.23) 2104.2395 2047 DCB_int_01 2104.2395 and even if you just go and- and sit, there's- there's a lot of little 2107.6282 2048 DCB_int_01 2107.6282 (pause 0.35) 2107.9779 2049 DCB_int_01 2107.9779 benches and things 2108.9711 2050 DCB_int_01 2108.9711 (pause 0.12) 2109.0877 2051 DCB_int_01 2109.0877 there. 2109.4468 2052 DCB_int_01 2109.4468 (pause 0.13) 2109.5773 2053 DCB_int_01 2109.5773 /?/ 2109.8198 2054 DCB_int_01 2109.8198 (pause 0.15) 2109.9690 2055 DCB_int_01 2109.9690 you know, like you can sit along the little wall thing. 2112.0941 2056 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2112.2014 Mm-hm. 2112.6630 2057 DCB_int_01 2113.2878 Just take a- some time, and just kind of breathe it in. Especially think about the riots, and think about all the s- memories. Like you were living it. You lived [this.] 2121.1297 2058 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2120.8126 [Mm-hm.] 2121.4281 2059 DCB_int_01 2121.4141 For [me, it's just-] I can only read about it 2123.3434 2060 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2121.6659 [Mm-hm.] 2122.0763 2061 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2123.3807 Mm-hm. 2123.8936 2062 DCB_int_01 2123.9589 and hear these stories. 2125.2365 2063 DCB_int_01 2125.2365 (pause 1.11) 2126.3417 2064 DCB_int_01 2126.3417 But it just does something to me. 2127.6613 2065 DCB_int_01 2127.6613 (pause 0.48) 2128.1369 2066 DCB_int_01 2128.1369 Something, 2128.3968 2067 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2128.3642 I know. 2128.8118 2068 DCB_int_01 2128.8072 like, 2129.1895 2069 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2129.4646 [Mm.] 2129.6838 2070 DCB_int_01 2129.5113 [it's something] beautiful, something amazing, but something that makes you just wanna 2133.3582 2071 DCB_int_01 2133.6100 say, I got to 2134.3793 2072 DCB_int_01 2134.3793 (pause 0.11) 2134.4913 2073 DCB_int_01 2134.4913 [call to action] [and I can- You] know, 2136.0801 2074 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2134.4994 [Yes.] 2135.0217 2075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2135.0217 (pause 0.26) 2135.2781 2076 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2135.2781 [Yes.] 2135.8330 2077 DCB_int_01 2136.4578 it didn't end with Martin Luther King. 2138.5608 2078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2138.4769 That's right. 2138.9945 2079 DCB_int_01 2139.0318 You know, 2139.3535 2080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2139.3535 That's right. 2139.8478 2081 DCB_int_01 2139.8571 I have a responsibility. 2141.3864 2082 DCB_int_01 2141.3864 (pause 0.26) 2141.6418 2083 DCB_int_01 2141.6418 And I think that's what I felt there. I felt like I need to do what I gotta do, 2145.4514 2084 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2145.6799 Mm-hm. 2146.0231 2085 DCB_int_01 2145.9643 and 2146.6218 2086 DCB_int_01 2146.9471 that may be listening to people's stories and- and talking about people's experiences or 2152.2954 2087 DCB_int_01 2152.2954 (pause 0.31) 2152.6032 2088 DCB_int_01 2152.6032 working with the kids or whatever it is, but I have to do something. I have to be [socially responsible] [like he was.] And that's what I feel [there.] 2159.6885 2089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2156.7846 [Mm-hm.] 2157.1716 2090 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2157.1716 (pause 0.49) 2157.6613 2091 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2157.6613 [Mm.] 2158.2628 2092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2158.2628 (pause 1.32) 2159.5812 2093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2159.5812 [Mm-hm.] 2160.0941 2094 DCB_int_01 2160.3040 Um, 2160.5837 2095 DCB_int_01 2160.5837 (pause 0.34) 2160.9241 2096 DCB_int_01 2160.9241 it's so [wonderful.] 2161.7969 2097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2161.1992 [And that's what] monuments are supposed to do. 2163.1577 2098 DCB_int_01 2163.0877 They [supposed to invoke] [all of that], [bring that back] to you. 2165.7724 2099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2163.4328 [/They supposed to/] 2163.9737 2100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2163.9737 (pause 0.13) 2164.1042 2101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2164.1042 [Mm-hm.] 2164.6125 2102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2164.6125 (pause 0.17) 2164.7850 2103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2164.7850 [That's right.] 2165.2500 2104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2165.7957 That's right. 2166.2527 2105 DCB_int_01 2166.3319 And I think that um, 2167.8008 2106 DCB_int_01 2167.8008 (pause 1.28) 2169.0831 2107 DCB_int_01 2169.0831 it would be great if you- if you had that s- experience, and [just and kind of], what you feel when you go there. 2173.8894 2108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2171.7817 [Yeah.] 2172.2667 2109 DCB_int_01 2174.4163 And um, 2175.4934 2110 DCB_int_01 2175.4934 (pause 0.52) 2176.0156 2111 DCB_int_01 2176.0156 do you feel like- 2177.1056 2112 DCB_int_01 2177.1056 (pause 0.22) 2177.3248 2113 DCB_int_01 2177.3248 And my last one is 2178.6071 2114 DCB_int_01 2178.6071 (pause 0.14) 2178.7469 2115 DCB_int_01 2178.7469 um, 2179.1153 2116 DCB_int_01 2179.1153 (pause 0.20) 2179.3112 2117 DCB_int_01 2179.3112 Eastern Market. 2180.0479 2118 DCB_int_01 2180.0479 (pause 0.17) 2180.2158 2119 DCB_int_01 2180.2158 I know you said you used to go there a lot. [Do you still go there] now? 2182.7430 2120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2181.8897 [Mm.] 2182.3747 2121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2182.9797 I haven't been since um, 2184.6723 2122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2184.6723 (pause 0.10) 2184.7749 2123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2184.7749 they've redone it. 2185.5629 2124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2185.5629 (pause 0.82) 2186.3790 2125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2186.3790 Um, 2186.7986 2126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2186.7986 (pause 0.37) 2187.1670 2127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2187.1670 actually, I haven't been since I left the area, 2189.6791 2128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2189.6791 (pause 0.15) 2189.8330 2129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2189.8330 since [I left] the school there. 2191.2226 2130 DCB_int_01 2190.0289 [Mm-hm.] 2190.3506 2131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2191.5350 Um, 2191.8241 2132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2191.8241 (pause 3.18) 2195.0030 2133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2195.0030 mm-mm. I haven't been back. 2196.3086 2134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2196.3086 (pause 0.62) 2196.9241 2135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2196.9241 So I don't know- I- I don't /want/- 2198.5795 2136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2198.5795 (pause 0.41) 2198.9851 2137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2198.9851 know what it looks like. 2200.0483 2138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2200.0483 (pause 0.63) 2200.6824 2139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2200.6824 I just remember that 2201.7164 2140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2201.7164 (pause 0.38) 2202.0988 2141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2202.0988 the old Eastern Market was s- was wonderful. 2204.8825 2142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2204.8825 (pause 0.17) 2205.0551 2143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2205.0551 2205.3535 2144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2205.3535 (pause 0.25) 2205.6006 2145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2205.6006 It was a wonderful place to just go, walk around. 2208.5138 2146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2208.5138 (pause 1.13) 2209.6469 2147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2209.6469 You could get those big fat 2210.8126 2148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2210.8126 (pause 0.20) 2211.0131 2149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2211.0131 juicy fresh donuts. [] 2213.0593 2150 DCB_int_01 2212.5752 [Mm.] 2213.0403 2151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2213.2076 And then- 2213.5486 2152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2213.5486 (pause 0.11) 2213.6605 2153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2213.6605 and then like I say, the big barrel had the 2215.7262 2154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2215.7262 (pause 0.92) 2216.6447 2155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2216.6447 f- um, 2217.1950 2156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2217.1950 (pause 0.48) 2217.6799 2157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2217.6799 Utz potato chips [and you'd get a] white paper bag filled with p- p- potato chips. 2222.1558 2158 DCB_int_01 2218.8491 [Mm-hm.] 2219.4600 2159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2222.2955 And uh- 2222.7571 2160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2222.7571 (pause 0.69) 2223.4519 2161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2223.4519 and the flowers and the different things. 2225.6807 2162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2225.6807 (pause 0.26) 2225.9418 2163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2225.9418 Yeah, I l- I loved it then. 2227.1950 2164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2227.1950 (pause 0.76) 2227.9504 2165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2227.9504 So I haven't been back. 2228.9156 2166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2228.9156 (pause 1.02) 2229.9368 2167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2229.9368 Mm-mm. 2230.4077 2168 DCB_int_01 2231.2937 If you could leave 2232.1144 2169 DCB_int_01 2232.1144 (pause 0.21) 2232.3289 2170 DCB_int_01 2232.3289 one piece of advice- 2233.7546 2171 DCB_int_01 2233.7546 (pause 0.76) 2234.5146 2172 DCB_int_01 2234.5146 2234.6592 2173 DCB_int_01 2234.6592 (pause 0.44) 2235.0975 2174 DCB_int_01 2235.0975 It could be to 2236.1420 2175 DCB_int_01 2236.1420 (pause 1.55) 2237.6900 2176 DCB_int_01 2237.6900 kids, 2238.7567 2177 DCB_int_01 2238.7567 (pause 0.16) 2238.9199 2178 DCB_int_01 2238.9199 adults- It could be to anybody. Whatever 2241.5451 2179 DCB_int_01 2241.5451 (pause 0.90) 2242.4404 2180 DCB_int_01 2242.4404 message you could- 2243.4383 2181 DCB_int_01 2243.4383 (pause 0.19) 2243.6248 2182 DCB_int_01 2243.6248 Based on your experiences and how you've lived and 2246.4633 2183 DCB_int_01 2246.4633 (pause 0.09) 2246.5566 2184 DCB_int_01 2246.5566 the things you've seen, 2247.6990 2185 DCB_int_01 2247.6990 (pause 0.82) 2248.5150 2186 DCB_int_01 2248.5150 what would that piece of advice be? 2250.1004 2187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2253.2280 Mm. 2253.4658 2188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2253.4658 (pause 4.42) 2257.8851 2189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2257.8851 uh (sighing), I would- /I'm gonna say/- I don't know. 2260.1373 2190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2260.1373 (pause 1.29) 2261.4289 2191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2261.4289 Cause life- 2262.0584 2192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2262.0584 (pause 0.38) 2262.4361 2193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2262.4361 2262.7718 2194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2262.7718 (pause 0.71) 2263.4841 2195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2263.4841 life has so much to offer, 2265.5451 2196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2265.5451 (pause 0.12) 2265.6617 2197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2265.6617 so much to give you. 2266.8274 2198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2266.8274 (pause 0.62) 2267.4476 2199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2267.4476 You know? 2267.8346 2200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2267.8346 (pause 0.16) 2267.9931 2201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2267.9931 And you can't shut your mind off, 2269.8152 2202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2269.8152 (pause 0.47) 2270.2815 2203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2270.2815 to me, to anything. You should- 2271.6197 2204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2271.6197 (pause 0.12) 2271.7363 2205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2271.7363 You got to always keep a open mind, 2273.4149 2206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2273.4149 (pause 0.74) 2274.1563 2207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2274.1563 and ask God to give you- 2275.6147 2208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2275.6147 (pause 0.16) 2275.7779 2209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2275.7779 to touch your heart, 2276.7198 2210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2276.7198 (pause 0.15) 2276.8737 2211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2276.8737 your spirit. /Have to have this/ open 2278.8134 2212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2278.8134 (pause 0.54) 2279.3543 2213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2279.3543 to 2279.6156 2214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2279.6156 (pause 0.14) 2279.7507 2215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2279.7507 pe- 2280.0538 2216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2280.0538 (pause 0.15) 2280.2076 2217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2280.2076 other people and- 2281.4048 2218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2281.4048 (pause 0.25) 2281.6520 2219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2281.6520 and other th- ideas and other things, you know. 2284.4824 2220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2284.4824 (pause 0.52) 2285.0046 2221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2285.0046 And a- 2285.3030 2222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2285.3030 (pause 0.28) 2285.5781 2223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2285.5781 And always, 2286.5154 2224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2286.5154 (pause 0.59) 2287.1018 2225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2287.1018 you know, I- Like I ask God to open- 2289.0415 2226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2289.0415 (pause 0.23) 2289.2700 2227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2289.2700 Let me see 2290.1280 2228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2290.1280 (pause 0.40) 2290.5243 2229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2290.5243 through my spirit, through my heart. 2292.3415 2230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2292.3415 (pause 0.13) 2292.4688 2231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2292.4688 Let me see 2293.1076 2232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2293.1076 (pause 0.33) 2293.4328 2233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2293.4328 like you see. 2294.8792 2234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2294.8792 (pause 0.95) 2295.8342 2235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2295.8342 You know, 2296.1280 2236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2296.1280 (pause 0.14) 2296.2679 2237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2296.2679 people. 2296.7948 2238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2296.7948 (pause 0.49) 2297.2890 2239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2297.2890 And so that I will have a love for life and a love for 2299.9970 2240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2299.9970 (pause 0.09) 2300.0903 2241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2300.0903 people. 2300.5053 2242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2300.5053 (pause 0.47) 2300.9762 2243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2300.9762 And I don't- 2301.3866 2244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2301.3866 (pause 0.11) 2301.4985 2245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2301.4985 So you don't wanna hurt people. You wouldn't wanna hurt anybody. 2304.2076 2246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2304.2076 (pause 0.43) 2304.6413 2247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2304.6413 So 2305.0190 2248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2305.0190 (pause 0.49) 2305.5074 2249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2305.5074 I guess it's s- it's all about love, 2307.5948 2250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2307.5948 (pause 0.63) 2308.2259 2251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2308.2259 and that's what the world need. We got to get back to loving each other 2311.7779 2252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2311.7779 (pause 0.47) 2312.2488 2253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2312.2488 and respecting each other 2313.6803 2254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2313.6803 (pause 0.49) 2314.1746 2255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2314.1746 and looking at people like, 2315.6061 2256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2315.6061 (pause 0.41) 2316.0211 2257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2316.0211 you know- 2316.4221 2258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2316.4221 (pause 1.32) 2317.7452 2259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2317.7452 Put yourself in their place. Would- 2319.3166 2260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2319.3166 (pause 0.24) 2319.5544 2261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2319.5544 Would I wanna deal with this? Would I wanna 2321.2937 2262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2321.2937 (pause 0.31) 2321.6061 2263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2321.6061 receive this from somebody? 2323.0283 2264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2323.0283 (pause 0.61) 2323.6380 2265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2323.6380 So why am I gonna give that to somebody? If I don't wanna get bashed in the head, why am I gonna bash somebody in the head? 2328.9515 2266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2328.9515 (pause 0.55) 2329.4981 2267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2329.4981 You know? 2329.7779 2268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2329.7779 (pause 0.34) 2330.1136 2269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2330.1136 We /got/- 2330.5239 2270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2330.5239 (pause 0.44) 2330.9669 2271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2330.9669 Try to love people. That's what I would- 2332.7202 2272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2332.7202 (pause 0.21) 2332.9347 2273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2332.9347 That's my advice. 2334.0538 2274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2334.0538 (pause 0.22) 2334.2776 2275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2334.2776 Try to 2334.6413 2276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2334.6413 (pause 1.05) 2335.6893 2277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2335.6893 open your spirit up 2336.8084 2278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2336.8084 (pause 0.81) 2337.6197 2279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2337.6197 and your heart up 2338.4637 2280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2338.4637 (pause 0.18) 2338.6409 2281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2338.6409 t- 2338.7015 2282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2338.7015 (pause 0.33) 2339.0279 2283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2339.0279 t- 2339.2004 2284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2339.2004 (pause 0.15) 2339.3497 2285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2339.3497 to other people and to life. 2340.9071 2286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2340.9071 (pause 1.40) 2342.3094 2287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2342.3094 And give 2343.0229 2288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2343.0229 (pause 0.94) 2343.9601 2289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2343.9601 so that you can get back- 2344.9813 2290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2344.9813 (pause 0.24) 2345.2191 2291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2345.2191 and g- 2345.5222 2292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2345.5222 (pause 0.14) 2345.6621 2293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2345.6621 get back what you give. 2346.9572 2294 DCB_int_01 2347.4934 That is- 2348.0670 2295 DCB_int_01 2348.0670 (pause 0.40) 2348.4680 2296 DCB_int_01 2348.4680 That is good advice [because I] think if we- If we adopted that principle, 2352.2893 2297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2349.5778 [] 2349.9928 2298 DCB_int_01 2352.7672 we'd have a much better world, but I [think the problem is] we don't- 2355.4845 2299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2354.3980 [Uh-huh.] 2355.0369 2300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_03 2355.7410 We don't. [That's right.] 2356.8834 2301 DCB_int_01 2356.2958 [People think] about themselves. They don't think about 2358.2496 2302 DCB_int_01 2358.7625 each other. 2359.2510