Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.4169 And birthday? 1.4847 2 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2.3147 February third, 3.5037 3 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3.5037 (pause 0.18) 3.6809 4 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3.6809 nineteen sixty 4.8009 5 DCB_int_01 7.8624 And where you born? 9.1074 6 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 9.7975 Washington DC. 10.7149 7 DCB_int_01 12.0672 What neighborhood did you grow up in? 13.3961 8 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 14.4872 Benning Heights. 15.2146 9 DCB_int_01 18.0672 And how long have you lived in DC- or how long did you live in DC? 20.6737 10 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 21.1913 For twenty years. 22.2073 11 DCB_int_01 23.2791 And where are the other places that you've lived? 25.2189 12 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 25.9836 Sh. 26.3520 13 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 26.3520 (pause 0.91) 27.2613 14 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 27.2613 Uh, I currently reside in Clinton, Maryland. 29.5980 15 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 29.5980 (pause 1.02) 30.6221 16 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 30.6221 I've lived in Gaithersburg, 32.1701 17 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 32.1701 (pause 0.14) 32.3100 18 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 32.3100 Maryland. 32.8929 19 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 32.8929 (pause 2.31) 35.2045 20 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 35.2045 I've lived in Forestville, Maryland. 37.5779 21 DCB_int_01 40.6450 So when you left DC, you didn't go back into DC, [as far as] living? 43.8624 22 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 43.1117 [No, I did not.] 43.5703 23 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 44.1002 No. 44.3567 24 DCB_int_01 45.2846 And where did you go to school? 46.8500 25 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 47.6382 I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, 49.7318 26 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 49.7318 (pause 3.14) 52.8735 27 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 52.8735 and then I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ University. 55.4707 28 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 55.4707 (pause 4.22) 59.6895 29 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 59.6895 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ campus. 60.5661 30 DCB_int_01 61.9090 And what is your current occupation? 63.7136 31 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 64.2545 I am a 65.1672 32 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 65.1672 (pause 0.24) 65.4050 33 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 65.4050 contract administrator. 66.5941 34 DCB_int_01 72.3842 And where were your parents born? 74.4126 35 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 75.1913 Uh, my mother was born Claremore, 77.9226 36 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 77.9226 (pause 1.26) 79.1816 37 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 79.1816 Oklahoma, 79.8904 38 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 79.8904 (pause 0.81) 80.7017 39 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 80.7017 and my father was born in 82.0027 40 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 82.0027 (pause 0.34) 82.3430 41 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 82.3430 Bartlesville, Oklahoma. 83.6055 42 DCB_int_01 88.2067 And what were your parents' occupations? 90.1698 43 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 91.2329 My mother was a ma- uh, records management specialist 94.5342 44 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 94.5342 (pause 0.39) 94.9248 45 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 94.9248 for the federal government, 95.8853 46 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 95.8853 (pause 0.92) 96.8039 47 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 96.8039 GS thirteen. 97.6619 48 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 97.6619 (pause 0.93) 98.5898 49 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 98.5898 And my father was an accountant 100.9947 50 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 100.9947 (pause 0.66) 101.6522 51 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 101.6522 for the Department of /Navy/. 103.0231 52 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 103.0231 (pause 1.69) 104.7157 53 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 104.7157 Believe he was GS 105.7788 54 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 105.7788 (pause 0.41) 106.1845 55 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 106.1845 eight 106.3943 56 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 106.3943 (pause 0.22) 106.6123 57 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 106.6123 or nine. 107.0926 58 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 107.0926 (pause 2.01) 109.0977 59 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 109.0977 And he retired. 109.7598 60 DCB_int_01 117.5317 Now I just want you to tell me a little bit about 119.9506 61 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 120.4495 [Sh.] 121.1909 62 DCB_int_01 120.4635 [um], 121.0883 63 DCB_int_01 121.7178 your childhood home, what you can remember. 124.0027 64 DCB_int_01 124.0027 (pause 0.62) 124.6217 65 DCB_int_01 124.6217 Um, 125.0510 66 DCB_int_01 125.0510 (pause 0.65) 125.7035 67 DCB_int_01 125.7035 your neighborhood. 126.8039 68 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 140.3473 I am the 141.3359 69 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 141.3359 (pause 0.81) 142.1507 70 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 142.1507 youngest of two. 143.0040 71 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 143.0040 (pause 0.17) 143.1766 72 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 143.1766 I have one sibling, a sister. 144.5521 73 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 144.5521 (pause 1.57) 146.1235 74 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 146.1235 Um, 146.6644 75 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 146.6644 (pause 0.48) 147.1493 76 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 147.1493 growing up, 148.1332 77 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 148.1332 (pause 1.83) 149.9599 78 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 149.9599 in a two parent 151.0417 79 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 151.0417 (pause 0.21) 151.2562 80 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 151.2562 home- household, 152.3007 81 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 152.3007 (pause 1.41) 153.7136 82 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 153.7136 um, my perspective was that I felt 155.1532 83 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 155.1532 (pause 0.29) 155.4470 84 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 155.4470 we had the best of everything. 156.6873 85 DCB_int_01 157.0137 Hm. 157.2049 86 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 158.0769 Um, 158.3753 87 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 158.3753 (pause 1.34) 159.7182 88 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 159.7182 my father made it 160.7989 89 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 160.7989 (pause 1.09) 161.8900 90 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 161.8900 um, 162.3003 91 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 162.3003 (pause 0.60) 162.9018 92 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 162.9018 his business to make sure 164.1981 93 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 164.1981 (pause 0.79) 164.9908 94 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 164.9908 that we were very well taken care of. 166.7662 95 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 166.7662 (pause 0.83) 167.6009 96 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 167.6009 Um, 168.0951 97 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 168.0951 (pause 0.31) 168.4029 98 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 168.4029 looking back, 169.1070 99 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 169.1070 (pause 0.21) 169.3215 100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 169.3215 we had all the necessities. 170.9861 101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 170.9861 (pause 2.05) 173.0320 102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 173.0320 173.1532 103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 173.1532 (pause 0.50) 173.6522 104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 173.6522 My mom was the homemaker. She worked, but she was 176.7017 105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 176.7017 (pause 0.42) 177.1260 106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 177.1260 still the primary homemaker, and my father was 179.2978 107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 179.2978 (pause 0.77) 180.0672 108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 180.0672 the dominant 180.6733 109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 180.6733 (pause 0.29) 180.9671 110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 180.9671 with the 181.6432 111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 181.6432 (pause 1.12) 182.7623 112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 182.7623 um- 183.3312 113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 183.3312 (pause 1.35) 184.6776 114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 184.6776 He made sure that 185.4796 115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 185.4796 (pause 0.47) 185.9506 116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 185.9506 the house ran smoothly. 187.1303 117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 187.1303 (pause 1.01) 188.1422 118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 188.1422 Growing up in the neighborhood that we grew up in, 190.2486 119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 190.2486 (pause 0.52) 190.7662 120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 190.7662 I was 191.2745 121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 191.2745 (pause 0.41) 191.6895 122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 191.6895 the only 192.5847 123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 192.5847 (pause 0.41) 192.9951 124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 192.9951 um, 193.4474 125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 193.4474 (pause 0.93) 194.3800 126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 194.3800 f- 194.6271 127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 194.6271 (pause 0.21) 194.8369 128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 194.8369 female 195.3032 129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 195.3032 (pause 0.38) 195.6809 130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 195.6809 of my age, 196.3897 131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 196.3897 (pause 0.84) 197.2278 132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 197.2278 so I didn't have a lot of 198.2770 133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 198.2770 (pause 0.71) 198.9858 134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 198.9858 uh, female friends or anything like that. 200.8649 135 DCB_int_01 201.0001 How big of the gap was your s- You and your sister? 203.2232 136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 203.4890 There are twelve years between us. 204.7946 137 DCB_int_01 204.8039 Okay. 205.0837 138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 205.8204 There are twelve years. 206.6644 139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 206.6644 (pause 0.37) 207.0328 140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 207.0328 So I grew up with the 208.4864 141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 208.4864 (pause 0.74) 209.2232 142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 209.2232 as a tomboy growing up. So I grew up with the boys in the neighborhood and 212.0163 143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 212.0163 (pause 0.37) 212.3893 144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 212.3893 playing football and 213.3125 145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 213.3125 (pause 0.89) 214.2032 146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 214.2032 baseball and kickball and 215.7175 147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 215.7175 (pause 0.19) 215.9040 148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 215.9040 ride my ten speed bicycle where 217.7272 149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 217.7272 (pause 0.30) 218.0302 150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 218.0302 other girls were still in the house, and they were tryna learn how to cook and 220.8315 151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 220.8315 (pause 1.69) 222.5195 152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 222.5195 you know, uh- 223.3028 153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 223.3028 (pause 0.26) 223.5640 154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 223.5640 playing with dolls. 224.2634 155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 224.2634 (pause 0.25) 224.5152 156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 224.5152 I did play with dolls, but I was truly a tomboy. 226.8128 157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 226.8128 (pause 3.55) 230.3660 158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 230.3660 Let's see. What else can I say? 231.9933 159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 231.9933 (pause 0.07) 232.0586 160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 232.0586 Um- 232.6741 161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 232.6741 (pause 0.33) 233.0040 162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 233.0040 233.1579 163 DCB_int_01 234.2770 Did you live in a townhouse? Was it an apartment? 236.8556 164 DCB_int_01 236.8556 (pause 0.59) 237.4478 165 DCB_int_01 237.4478 Was it a single family [home?] 239.4517 166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 238.6963 [/T./] 239.0740 167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 240.1324 It was a 241.2236 168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 241.2236 (pause 0.10) 241.3262 169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 241.3262 um- 241.8391 170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 241.8391 (pause 0.54) 242.3800 171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 242.3800 I think they c- Well, 243.4711 172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 243.4711 (pause 0.19) 243.6623 173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 243.6623 today's 244.2078 174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 244.2078 (pause 0.64) 244.8455 175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 244.8455 terminology would be a 246.0532 176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 246.0532 (pause 0.47) 246.5195 177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 246.5195 townhouse. 247.2329 178 DCB_int_01 247.3635 [Mm-hm.] 247.7645 179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 247.5500 [But-] 247.7645 180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 248.1795 Cause you have one person besides a single, 249.9887 181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 249.9887 (pause 0.24) 250.2265 182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 250.2265 a semi detached home is what it- [really] what it was considered. 252.8272 183 DCB_int_01 251.6242 [Okay.] 251.9413 184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 253.4614 Uh the neighborhood was very 255.2473 185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 255.2473 (pause 0.19) 255.4338 186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 255.4338 um, 255.8768 187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 255.8768 (pause 2.28) 258.1604 188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 258.1604 old school structured, 259.6665 189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 259.6665 (pause 0.14) 259.8111 190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 259.8111 where everybody looked out for everyone. 261.6529 191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 261.6529 (pause 0.82) 262.4771 192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 262.4771 Uh, if- if you got in trouble down the street, 265.1396 193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 265.1396 (pause 0.12) 265.2609 194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 265.2609 by the time you got home, your parents knew 267.1742 195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 267.1742 (pause 0.37) 267.5457 196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 267.5457 exactly what you did. 268.6648 197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 268.6648 (pause 0.65) 269.3118 198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 269.3118 You were only allowed to go 270.7806 199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 270.7806 (pause 1.13) 271.9137 200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 271.9137 from one corner to the other. 273.4245 201 DCB_int_01 273.5317 Mm-hm. 273.8441 202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 273.8430 You couldn't just roam the neighborhood. 275.2185 203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 275.7314 That just was not allowed. 276.8459 204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 276.8459 (pause 1.10) 277.9463 205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 277.9463 278.0722 206 DCB_int_01 279.3312 Did you- Okay. So did you 281.7827 207 DCB_int_01 281.7827 (pause 0.21) 281.9926 208 DCB_int_01 281.9926 when- and playing in the neighborhood and things like that, 284.3706 209 DCB_int_01 284.3706 (pause 1.14) 285.5131 210 DCB_int_01 285.5131 was- Do you remember like 286.7989 211 DCB_int_01 286.7989 (pause 0.21) 287.0040 212 DCB_int_01 287.0040 the people in the neighborhood? Was it a mixed neighborhood? Was it a all black neighborhood? 290.9908 213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 290.9628 It was a all black neighborhood. 292.1938 214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 293.3071 Um, 293.9459 215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 293.9459 (pause 1.65) 295.5919 216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 295.5919 295.7365 217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 295.7365 (pause 0.82) 296.5525 218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 296.5525 and 297.4011 219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 297.4011 (pause 0.31) 297.7089 220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 297.7089 the family structures were pretty much the same. 299.5496 221 DCB_int_01 300.3143 So it was mostly two [parent?] 301.5593 222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 301.1536 [It was mai-] mostly two parent. 302.5898 223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 303.3638 Um, 303.7742 224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 303.7742 (pause 1.59) 305.3677 225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 305.3677 I don't recall any 306.6360 226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 306.6360 (pause 0.83) 307.4614 227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 307.4614 divorcees at all. 308.9861 228 DCB_int_01 309.6389 [Mm-hm.] 310.0400 229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 309.7928 [In the] community. Not- not growing up. 311.4352 230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 311.5403 Not at all. I didn't even really fully understand what that was. 313.9556 231 DCB_int_01 314.2494 Hm. 314.5618 232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 314.7064 Cause we didn't- You did- You just didn't- 316.0384 233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 316.0384 (pause 0.19) 316.2311 234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 316.2311 You didn't have that. 317.0764 235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 317.0764 (pause 0.90) 317.9786 236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 317.9786 Um, it's j- 318.6221 237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 318.6221 (pause 0.14) 318.7666 238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 318.7666 From the perspective of when I grew up, as- especially in elementary school, 321.8441 239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 321.8441 (pause 0.62) 322.4631 240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 322.4631 my day care provider as their called now, but my baby sitter 325.2655 241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 325.2655 (pause 0.27) 325.5313 242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 325.5313 lived maybe seven doors down the street on the same block. 328.3011 243 DCB_int_01 328.5611 Mm-hm. 328.8502 244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 328.9854 Um, 329.5542 245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 329.5542 (pause 1.18) 330.7386 246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 330.7386 elementary school that I attended, 332.0302 247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 332.0302 (pause 0.33) 332.3613 248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 332.3613 we walked to school, didn't do any bussing anything like that. 334.8128 249 DCB_int_01 334.9154 Which elementary school? 335.8014 250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 335.9739 /RD-NAME-2/ Elementary School on /RD-ADDRESS-5/, Southeast. 338.5199 251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 338.5199 (pause 0.89) 339.4058 252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 339.4058 So you had a buddy kind of thing where 341.6895 253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 341.6895 (pause 0.32) 342.0112 254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 342.0112 you had your little friends that you would walk to school with, and you'd wait 344.9395 255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 344.9395 (pause 0.44) 345.3778 256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 345.3778 and walk home together. 346.6357 257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 346.6357 (pause 0.14) 346.7755 258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 346.7755 Um, I was a crossing guard, 348.0718 259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 348.0718 (pause 0.61) 348.6780 260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 348.6780 so I got a chance to see all the little kids going home. 351.0393 261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 351.0393 (pause 0.36) 351.3965 262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 351.3965 351.5923 263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 351.5923 (pause 1.04) 352.6357 264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 352.6357 Um, 353.1766 265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 353.1766 (pause 1.11) 354.2863 266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 354.2863 very quiet neighborhood, 355.5173 267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 355.5173 (pause 0.27) 355.7831 268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 355.7831 very family structured, very or- 357.9187 269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 357.9187 (pause 0.10) 358.0155 270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 358.0155 family oriented. 359.0273 271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 359.0273 (pause 0.72) 359.7501 272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 359.7501 Um, 360.3050 273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 360.3050 (pause 0.32) 360.6221 274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 360.6221 everyone pretty much went in the house when the lights came on. 363.1913 275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 363.1913 (pause 0.88) 364.0668 276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 364.0668 Or you went in for dinner, 365.6755 277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 365.6755 (pause 0.77) 366.4449 278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 366.4449 cause your- 366.6827 279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 366.6827 (pause 0.13) 366.8086 280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 366.8086 your- your parent would come out and stand at the door and yell your name all up and down the street. 370.5715 281 DCB_int_01 371.2558 371.4423 282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 371.4703 And you came in for dinner, everyone sat down, 373.6479 283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 373.6479 (pause 0.24) 373.8857 284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 373.8857 and that- 374.1981 285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 374.1981 (pause 0.10) 374.3007 286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 374.3007 that's pretty much how- 375.1587 287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 375.1587 (pause 0.54) 375.6949 288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 375.6949 You sat down as a family, 376.7382 289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 376.7382 (pause 1.25) 377.9926 290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 377.9926 and then if you were l- if it wasn't dark, you got to come back outside and when the street lights came on, 382.3792 291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 382.3792 (pause 0.64) 383.0227 292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 383.0227 you came in the house. 384.1511 293 DCB_int_01 385.1256 So let me ask you this. When- 387.1400 294 DCB_int_01 387.1400 (pause 0.73) 387.8721 295 DCB_int_01 387.8721 Because you had such a big age group 389.6708 296 DCB_int_01 389.6708 (pause 0.20) 389.8667 297 DCB_int_01 389.8667 with your sister, 390.8599 298 DCB_int_01 390.8599 (pause 0.35) 391.2096 299 DCB_int_01 391.2096 did you guys have- 392.3380 300 DCB_int_01 392.3380 (pause 0.77) 393.1074 301 DCB_int_01 393.1074 Did y'all play together much? Did y'all 394.6077 302 DCB_int_01 394.6077 (pause 0.14) 394.7476 303 DCB_int_01 394.7476 interact? I mean I know y'all interacted, but did y'all 396.9205 304 DCB_int_01 396.9205 (pause 0.34) 397.2609 305 DCB_int_01 397.2609 do a lot together? 398.2261 306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 398.5338 No. 398.7577 307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 398.7577 (pause 0.39) 399.1493 308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 399.1493 399.7089 309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 399.7089 (pause 0.83) 400.5424 310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 400.5424 Um, 400.9621 311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 400.9621 (pause 0.16) 401.1206 312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 401.1206 we joke about it now, but 402.8692 313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 402.8692 (pause 1.84) 404.7064 314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 404.7064 she loved me, yes. 405.7742 315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 405.7742 (pause 0.74) 406.5191 316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 406.5191 I was in the way up until 408.0765 317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 408.0765 (pause 1.79) 409.8624 318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 409.8624 probably when I became about fifteen or sixteen and then she allowed me to 413.6475 319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 413.6475 (pause 0.32) 413.9692 320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 413.9692 come into my own. Because anything other than that, 416.0163 321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 416.0163 (pause 0.55) 416.5711 322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 416.5711 I was- 417.0934 323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 417.0934 (pause 0.08) 417.1773 324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 417.1773 If she was trying to date or if she was trying to go out 420.1260 325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 420.1260 (pause 0.46) 420.5894 326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 420.5894 I was in the way cause she had to take me with her. 422.6877 327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 422.6877 (pause 1.01) 423.6996 328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 423.6996 Um, 424.2498 329 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 424.2498 (pause 1.06) 425.3118 330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 425.3118 she was responsible for making sure that 427.0558 331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 427.0558 (pause 0.36) 427.4147 332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 427.4147 I got dressed for school and 429.0183 333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 429.0183 (pause 0.16) 429.1773 334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 429.1773 that I 429.6357 335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 429.6357 (pause 0.33) 429.9700 336 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 429.9700 had breakfast. And she served the same thing every day 432.4215 337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 432.4215 (pause 0.75) 433.1676 338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 433.1676 of the week. 433.6712 339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 433.6712 (pause 0.32) 433.9929 340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 433.9929 Yeah. 434.2214 341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 434.2214 (pause 0.27) 434.4919 342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 434.4919 434.6597 343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 434.6597 (pause 0.13) 434.7856 344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 434.7856 Certain foods I don't eat now because of her. 436.4445 345 DCB_int_01 437.0180 [] 438.4682 346 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 437.1812 [But um-] 438.4542 347 DCB_int_01 440.1748 440.4732 348 DCB_int_01 440.4732 (pause 0.54) 441.0095 349 DCB_int_01 441.0095 And what are those [foods?] 442.3524 350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 442.0260 [] 442.4083 351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 442.7149 S- 442.9248 352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 442.9248 (pause 0.39) 443.3118 353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 443.3118 /her uh/ scrapple, 444.4822 354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 444.4822 (pause 0.23) 444.7106 355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 444.7106 I can't- 445.2520 356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 445.2520 (pause 0.25) 445.4987 357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 445.4987 I can't just- 446.0396 358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 446.0396 (pause 0.50) 446.5385 359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 446.5385 I can't [stand to look at it] at this point. 448.7301 360 DCB_int_01 447.0281 [] 447.8768 361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 449.7687 Um, I did learn to eat 451.1769 362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 451.1769 (pause 0.30) 451.4800 363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 451.4800 grits, 452.1049 364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 452.1049 (pause 0.25) 452.3520 365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 452.3520 f- but she fixed 453.4813 366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 453.4813 (pause 0.44) 453.9187 367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 453.9187 scrapple, eggs 455.1113 368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 455.1113 (pause 0.13) 455.2418 369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 455.2418 and grits 455.8387 370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 455.8387 (pause 1.00) 456.8412 371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 456.8412 every day. 457.3308 372 DCB_int_01 458.0769 458.3893 373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 458.8602 It's all she knew how to cook. 460.0306 374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 460.0306 (pause 0.72) 460.7522 375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 460.7522 So that's what I ate every day. 462.1185 376 DCB_int_01 462.8972 [] 467.6433 377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 464.6411 But we became close um, 466.2778 378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 466.2778 (pause 0.17) 466.4456 379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 466.4456 as I got older.] 467.7314 380 DCB_int_01 468.2770 468.4822 381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 468.8086 Um, 469.2236 382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 469.2236 (pause 1.95) 471.1773 383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 471.1773 cause I will say 471.8814 384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 471.8814 (pause 0.19) 472.0714 385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 472.0714 this. Uh, 472.8455 386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 472.8455 (pause 0.21) 473.0553 387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 473.0553 I was her- 473.4796 388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 473.4796 (pause 0.30) 473.7781 389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 473.7781 You know being her little sister, 475.2469 390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 475.2469 (pause 1.02) 476.2634 391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 476.2634 and I've always grown up being 477.6063 392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 477.6063 (pause 0.32) 477.9280 393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 477.9280 /RD-NAME-3/'s little sister, 479.4284 394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 479.4284 (pause 1.12) 480.5521 395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 480.5521 um, that's a label 481.8670 396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 481.8670 (pause 0.14) 482.0069 397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 482.0069 or a title while- 483.0747 398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 483.0747 (pause 0.52) 483.5970 399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 483.5970 I think by the time I was 484.8222 400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 484.8222 (pause 0.54) 485.3584 401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 485.3584 twenty five, 486.1931 402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 486.1931 (pause 0.19) 486.3842 403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 486.3842 close to thirty, 487.3028 404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 487.3028 (pause 0.34) 487.6386 405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 487.6386 I outgrew 488.2867 406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 488.2867 (pause 0.23) 488.5199 407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 488.5199 finally. 489.0001 408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 489.0001 (pause 0.85) 489.8534 409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 489.8534 And then I became my own person. 491.6894 410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 491.6894 (pause 0.28) 491.9739 411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 491.9739 /Very-/ 492.2723 412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 492.2723 (pause 0.29) 492.5614 413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 492.5614 And there's still- Some people said, 493.7225 414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 493.7225 (pause 0.22) 493.9417 415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 493.9417 Oh that's /RD-NAME-3/'s little sister. 495.3359 416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 495.3359 (pause 0.59) 495.9234 417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 495.9234 It's like, okay, I'm fifty something years old now. I'm not /RD-NAME-3/'s little anything cause I am bigger than she is! 500.4919 418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 500.4919 (pause 0.59) 501.0794 419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 501.0794 Yeah. 501.3638 420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 501.3638 (pause 0.97) 502.3291 421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 502.3291 But 502.6263 422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 502.6263 (pause 0.10) 502.7243 423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 502.7243 we did have a- We had a very good relationship 504.7013 424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 504.7013 (pause 0.09) 504.7946 425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 504.7946 because uh, we were 505.7365 426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 505.7365 (pause 1.39) 507.1260 427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 507.1260 dancers. 507.6949 428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 507.6949 (pause 0.38) 508.0726 429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 508.0726 So my parents 509.0087 430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 509.0087 (pause 0.43) 509.4423 431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 509.4423 uh, sent us to dancer school, 510.8459 432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 510.8459 (pause 1.49) 512.3333 433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 512.3333 and I was a ballet dancer. 513.7648 434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 513.7648 (pause 0.40) 514.1694 435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 514.1694 And 514.5144 436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 514.5144 (pause 0.16) 514.6776 437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 514.6776 once I started studying 516.4775 438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 516.4775 (pause 0.50) 516.9764 439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 516.9764 a little more and going to 517.9230 440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 517.9230 (pause 0.22) 518.1422 441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 518.1422 different 518.5338 442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 518.5338 (pause 0.13) 518.6644 443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 518.6644 genres and doing uh, modern [dance and things like that], 521.0646 444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 521.0646 (pause 0.40) 521.4610 445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 521.4610 [she was also dancing at the time, so] 523.7318 446 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 523.7318 (pause 0.75) 524.4825 447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 524.4825 that started our bond I think. 526.1752 448 DCB_int_01 526.6030 Hm-hm. 527.1066 449 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 527.4796 And it just really kind of developed 528.9578 450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 528.9578 (pause 0.11) 529.0650 451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 529.0650 from that. 529.6572 452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 529.6572 (pause 0.54) 530.1981 453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 530.1981 At this point right now, we live approximately 532.6780 454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 532.6780 (pause 1.49) 534.1651 455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 534.1651 door to door seven minutes from each other, 536.0349 456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 536.0349 (pause 0.96) 536.9908 457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 536.9908 and we have 537.5270 458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 537.5270 (pause 0.15) 537.6763 459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 537.6763 lived like that for the last twenty five years. 539.5356 460 DCB_int_01 540.5148 In fact, we're in her living room 541.8577 461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 542.2587 Right [now.] 542.8136 462 DCB_int_01 542.5012 [now.] 542.7996 463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 542.9955 [Mm-hm.] 543.3825 464 DCB_int_01 543.0281 [Exactly.] 543.6110 465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 543.7478 [Hm-hm.] 544.5757 466 DCB_int_01 543.9793 [Um,] 544.6042 467 DCB_int_01 545.2092 and so let me ask you this. Thinking about your 547.4334 468 DCB_int_01 547.4334 (pause 0.12) 547.5546 469 DCB_int_01 547.5546 larger family, so your mom, your dad, your sisters- 550.4316 470 DCB_int_01 550.4316 (pause 5.67) 556.0994 471 DCB_int_01 556.0994 And your grandparents um- 558.1464 472 DCB_int_01 558.1464 (pause 0.32) 558.4682 473 DCB_int_01 558.4682 I'm sorry (clap), that was so funny. 559.9603 474 DCB_int_01 559.9603 (pause 0.66) 560.6224 475 DCB_int_01 560.6224 Whoo. I'm sorry. 561.7229 476 DCB_int_01 561.7229 (pause 0.61) 562.3372 477 DCB_int_01 562.3372 So it was your- your family, 563.7314 478 DCB_int_01 563.7314 (pause 0.19) 563.9226 479 DCB_int_01 563.9226 do y'all still have like family traditions? Like, 565.7505 480 DCB_int_01 565.7505 (pause 0.60) 566.3520 481 DCB_int_01 566.3520 I know you and your sister go 567.5000 482 DCB_int_01 567.5000 (pause 0.18) 567.6844 483 DCB_int_01 567.6844 and travel each year together, but do y'all have family traditions where 570.9904 484 DCB_int_01 570.9904 (pause 0.54) 571.5313 485 DCB_int_01 571.5313 your whole family gets together? What are those like? 574.0866 486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 575.4750 Um, we have a very small family, 577.4381 487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 577.4381 (pause 0.66) 578.0980 488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 578.0980 very, very small family. 579.1727 489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 579.1727 (pause 0.55) 579.7275 490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 579.7275 Um, just to give you a little background, my parents got married in nineteen forty two, 583.0930 491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 583.0930 (pause 0.57) 583.6665 492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 583.6665 and my dad was in the military, and they moved 585.8208 493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 585.8208 (pause 0.15) 585.9747 494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 585.9747 here 586.2778 495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 586.2778 (pause 0.11) 586.3885 496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 586.3885 to Washington, DC area. 587.6992 497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 587.6992 (pause 0.94) 588.6407 498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 588.6407 And 589.0883 499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 589.0883 (pause 0.28) 589.3635 500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 589.3635 therefore he- 589.9743 501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 589.9743 (pause 0.15) 590.1235 502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 590.1235 they- He moved us away from the rest of the family. 592.3617 503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 592.3617 (pause 0.30) 592.6636 504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 592.6636 So we don't have cousins, aunts and uncles and things like that 595.4381 505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 595.4381 (pause 0.98) 596.4219 506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 596.4219 in the area. 597.0281 507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 597.0281 (pause 0.42) 597.4524 508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 597.4524 We 597.7462 509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 597.7462 (pause 0.28) 598.0213 510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 598.0213 never have up until maybe- 599.4890 511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 599.4890 (pause 1.69) 601.1769 512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 601.1769 We found out about four years ago we have a cousin, 603.6016 513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 603.6016 (pause 0.74) 604.3466 514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 604.3466 a blood cousin here. 605.3304 515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 605.3304 (pause 0.29) 605.6195 516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 605.6195 But other than that, we've never had a large family so 607.7475 517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 607.7475 (pause 0.23) 607.9743 518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 607.9743 it was always just Mom and Dad, 609.3219 519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 609.3219 (pause 0.84) 610.1659 520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 610.1659 /RD-NAME-3/ and- and- and /RD-NAME-2/ 611.5449 521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 611.5449 (pause 0.77) 612.3190 522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 612.3190 and- until we 613.2049 523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 613.2049 (pause 0.73) 613.9323 524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 613.9323 developed our own 614.7250 525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 614.7250 (pause 0.62) 615.3498 526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 615.3498 families. 615.9700 527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 615.9700 (pause 0.57) 616.5424 528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 616.5424 Um, 616.8921 529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 616.8921 (pause 0.58) 617.4703 530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 617.4703 right now traditionally, we do 619.4101 531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 619.4101 (pause 0.15) 619.5640 532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 619.5640 Christmas, 620.1188 533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 620.1188 (pause 0.60) 620.7204 534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 620.7204 Thanksgiving, 621.6203 535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 621.6203 (pause 0.81) 622.4352 536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 622.4352 the first summer 623.3864 537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 623.3864 (pause 0.11) 623.4983 538 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 623.4983 cookout, 624.1324 539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 624.1324 (pause 0.77) 624.9018 540 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 624.9018 the end of the summer 625.7924 541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 625.7924 (pause 0.12) 625.9090 542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 625.9090 cookout, 626.4126 543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 626.4126 (pause 0.46) 626.8742 544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 626.8742 and we see each other, 628.1286 545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 628.1286 (pause 0.62) 628.7476 546 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 628.7476 prob- 629.0786 547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 629.0786 (pause 0.15) 629.2325 548 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 629.2325 Well because my mom now, 630.7013 549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 630.7013 (pause 0.51) 631.2096 550 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 631.2096 um, she's a surviving 632.4406 551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 632.4406 (pause 0.14) 632.5851 552 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 632.5851 um, parent, 633.2613 553 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 633.2613 (pause 0.52) 633.7835 554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 633.7835 and we all 634.3197 555 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 634.3197 (pause 0.19) 634.5051 556 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 634.5051 pitch in to /telp/ take care of her 635.9180 557 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 635.9180 (pause 0.55) 636.4728 558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 636.4728 so we see each other a lot more now. 638.0442 559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 638.0442 (pause 0.35) 638.3893 560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 638.3893 We see each other probably 639.5737 561 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 639.5737 (pause 0.92) 640.4911 562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 640.4911 on a weekly basis. 641.5776 563 DCB_int_01 641.7967 Mm-hm. 642.1558 564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 642.1884 As far as the family all getting together, 644.3567 565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 644.3567 (pause 0.30) 644.6597 566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 644.6597 we try to make it a point to 646.6275 567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 646.6275 (pause 0.75) 647.3817 568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 647.3817 see each other at least 648.6127 569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 648.6127 (pause 0.68) 649.2888 570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 649.2888 once a month? 650.0909 571 DCB_int_01 650.3380 Mm. 650.6644 572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 650.9722 Um, that works- 651.8488 573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 651.8488 (pause 0.31) 652.1554 574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 652.1554 depending on /what/ the schedules 653.6662 575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 653.6662 (pause 0.21) 653.8713 576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 653.8713 you know, provide- you know, allow us to do that. We /work/. 656.1095 577 DCB_int_01 656.7950 Now do you have kids? 657.9001 578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 658.1659 I have one child. And I have a thirty 659.9832 579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 659.9832 (pause 0.92) 660.9018 580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 660.9018 four year old daughter, 662.2261 581 DCB_int_01 662.5478 Mm-hm. 662.9628 582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 663.5783 um, 664.0446 583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 664.0446 (pause 0.33) 664.3699 584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 664.3699 who I 665.0087 585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 665.0087 (pause 0.52) 665.5309 586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 665.5309 put through college. 666.4822 587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 666.4822 (pause 1.11) 667.5966 588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 667.5966 And 668.4266 589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 668.4266 (pause 0.27) 668.6970 590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 668.6970 um, she went to grad school. 670.1612 591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 670.1612 (pause 0.46) 670.6170 592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 670.6170 She came back home. 671.4657 593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 671.4657 (pause 0.25) 671.7128 594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 671.7128 671.9273 595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 671.9273 (pause 0.76) 672.6827 596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 672.6827 And she's back home with me now. 673.9137 597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 673.9137 (pause 0.77) 674.6831 598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 674.6831 And she has uh- 676.7336 599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 676.7336 (pause 1.27) 678.0019 600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 678.0019 She was 678.4915 601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 678.4915 (pause 0.60) 679.0930 602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 679.0930 afforded the opportunity 680.3660 603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 680.3660 (pause 0.26) 680.6224 604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 680.6224 to adopt, 681.2473 605 DCB_int_01 681.6343 Mm-hm. 682.0679 606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 682.1752 and so she- we're in the process of now- She's adopting a baby boy. 685.5966 607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 685.5966 (pause 0.63) 686.2261 608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 686.2261 Well he's 686.7670 609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 686.7670 (pause 0.32) 687.0887 610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 687.0887 sixteen months old right now, 688.3570 611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 688.3570 (pause 0.54) 688.8921 612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 688.8921 but we've had him since he was three days old. 690.5801 613 DCB_int_01 692.0396 [And you] 692.3929 614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 692.1328 [So-] 692.6084 615 DCB_int_01 692.9209 love him? 693.4618 616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 693.8243 Uh, 694.1461 617 DCB_int_01 693.9036 [/Like a son?/] 695.0180 618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 694.5750 my heart. 694.9510 619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 695.4423 Mm, 695.6289 620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 695.6289 (pause 0.42) 696.0485 621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 696.0485 absolute heart. 696.8459 622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 696.8459 (pause 0.25) 697.0930 623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 697.0930 It was a blessing. It was a God's blessing. Truly, it was. 699.5737 624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 699.5737 (pause 0.46) 700.0341 625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 700.0341 T- Because she [doesn't have] any- She doesn't have any biological children. 702.7666 626 DCB_int_01 701.5979 [] 701.8412 627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 703.2236 She's not in a relationship. 704.5432 628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 704.5432 (pause 0.31) 704.8509 629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 704.8509 So she didn't feel that- 706.7687 630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 706.7687 (pause 0.63) 707.4004 631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 707.4004 that should keep her from being a mom cause she's always wanted to be a mom. 710.1935 632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 710.1935 (pause 1.01) 711.2006 633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 711.2006 [So] 711.7182 634 DCB_int_01 711.4338 [Wow.] 711.7695 635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 711.9082 instead of just waiting for nature to take its course, 714.7293 636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 714.7293 (pause 0.44) 715.1723 637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 715.1723 she took matters in- 716.0349 638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 716.0349 (pause 0.39) 716.4219 639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 716.4219 Or like I said, the opportunity came up /with/ a friend of hers, 718.7907 640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 718.7907 (pause 0.39) 719.1812 641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 719.1812 um, has a relative that 720.2863 642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 720.2863 (pause 0.27) 720.5568 643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 720.5568 had a child that they could not provide for. 722.4825 644 DCB_int_01 723.0141 [Mm-hm.] 723.3825 645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 723.0328 [So] 723.4897 646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 723.8395 um, 724.0633 647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 724.0633 (pause 0.35) 724.4118 648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 724.4118 we're in the, 724.7429 649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 724.7429 (pause 0.39) 725.1346 650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 725.1346 like I said the- 725.6568 651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 725.6568 (pause 0.20) 725.8573 652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 725.8573 the last phase of the adoption process. 727.9230 653 DCB_int_01 727.9277 Oh, well good luck, 728.8836 654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 728.9069 729.0048 655 DCB_int_01 729.1120 [and congratulations for getting this] far. 730.9154 656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 729.1493 [Yes, tha- thank you.] 730.6228 657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 731.3258 Oh, [yes.] 731.8527 658 DCB_int_01 731.4610 [So] 732.1511 659 DCB_int_01 732.5241 let me ask you this. Kind of moving, thinking about- 735.0468 660 DCB_int_01 735.0468 (pause 0.15) 735.1960 661 DCB_int_01 735.1960 you went to 736.3745 662 DCB_int_01 736.3745 (pause 0.14) 736.5098 663 DCB_int_01 736.5098 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary, 737.4563 664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 737.5776 Mm-hm. 737.9366 665 DCB_int_01 738.3096 did you like school? 739.3401 666 DCB_int_01 739.3401 (pause 0.15) 739.4894 667 DCB_int_01 739.4894 Was it fun? 740.6271 668 DCB_int_01 740.6271 (pause 0.81) 741.4384 669 DCB_int_01 741.4384 Did you have a favorite subject or favorite teacher? 743.3164 670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 744.4169 Elementary school is somewhat of a blur at this point. I did- 747.3032 671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 747.3032 (pause 0.37) 747.6716 672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 747.6716 I can remember 748.4538 673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 748.4538 (pause 0.11) 748.5657 674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 748.5657 one particular teacher, 749.6102 675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 749.6102 (pause 0.19) 749.8014 676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 749.8014 uh, Miss /RD-NAME-1/, that was my fifth grade teacher, 751.8484 677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 751.8484 (pause 0.50) 752.3473 678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 752.3473 I think she made the m- 753.4011 679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 753.4011 (pause 0.20) 753.6005 680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 753.6005 most impact on my life. 755.4480 681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 755.4480 (pause 0.82) 756.2723 682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 756.2723 Um, she was a no nonsense 758.3380 683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 758.3380 (pause 1.72) 760.0539 684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 760.0539 proper, 760.7068 685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 760.7068 (pause 0.47) 761.1719 686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 761.1719 as you will, 761.7874 687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 761.7874 (pause 0.39) 762.1791 688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 762.1791 type of person. 762.8785 689 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 762.8785 (pause 0.51) 763.3868 690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 763.3868 She didn't take any 764.1841 691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 764.1841 (pause 0.54) 764.7250 692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 764.7250 mess from any child, 765.8022 693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 765.8022 (pause 1.87) 767.6708 694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 767.6708 but she was fair. 768.5721 695 DCB_int_01 768.9638 Mm. 769.3270 696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 769.5267 And she always tried to get you to aspire to be better. 771.9560 697 DCB_int_01 772.5077 Mm-hm. 772.8351 698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 773.2325 Um, 773.6568 699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 773.6568 (pause 1.52) 775.1769 700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 775.1769 and one of the r- things I really remember about that 777.3312 701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 777.3312 (pause 0.18) 777.5131 702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 777.5131 being in fifth grade was 778.6370 703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 778.6370 (pause 0.50) 779.1393 704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 779.1393 there was a- 779.4843 705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 779.4843 (pause 0.21) 779.6895 706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 779.6895 a young 780.1884 707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 780.1884 (pause 0.35) 780.5335 708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 780.5335 gentleman 780.9485 709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 780.9485 (pause 0.18) 781.1256 710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 781.1256 or 781.3681 711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 781.3681 (pause 0.17) 781.5406 712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 781.5406 kid 781.8857 713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 781.8857 (pause 0.26) 782.1422 714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 782.1422 came into fifth grade, 783.3312 715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 783.3312 (pause 0.11) 783.4384 716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 783.4384 and he moved /fere/ from 784.9527 717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 784.9527 (pause 0.66) 785.6102 718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 785.6102 uh, Jamaica. 786.2210 719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 786.2210 (pause 1.22) 787.4381 720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 787.4381 He had never seen it snow before, 788.8247 721 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 788.8247 (pause 0.39) 789.2193 722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 789.2193 and for whatever reason, it sticks in my mind. 790.9673 723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 790.9673 (pause 0.51) 791.4750 724 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 791.4750 And we all had to go stand out in the snow for 793.8596 725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 793.8596 (pause 0.11) 793.9650 726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 793.9650 a whole class period because 795.4991 727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 795.4991 (pause 0.34) 795.8348 728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 795.8348 he had never seen a snowfall in the sky. 797.4470 729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 797.4470 (pause 0.60) 798.0485 730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 798.0485 So the rest of us are sitting there freezing, and he's just walking around amazed that he saw snow. 801.5410 731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 801.5410 (pause 0.31) 801.8534 732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 801.8534 But that was the kind of thing that she was trying to help understand. 804.9251 733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 804.9251 (pause 0.37) 805.2935 734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 805.2935 If he didn't 806.0536 735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 806.0536 (pause 0.33) 806.3846 736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 806.3846 have any 806.9955 737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 806.9955 (pause 0.59) 807.5830 738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 807.5830 understanding of what snow really was, 809.5682 739 DCB_int_01 809.6020 Mm-hm. 810.0463 740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 810.0812 and to- to help him experience that 812.9302 741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 812.9302 (pause 0.61) 813.5410 742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 813.5410 she just made us kind of 814.5471 743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 814.5471 (pause 0.15) 814.6963 744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 814.6963 all 815.1299 745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 815.1299 (pause 0.52) 815.6522 746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 815.6522 realize that there are different cultures. There are different 818.1422 747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 818.1422 (pause 0.57) 818.7110 748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 818.7110 um, things that kids go through 820.3757 749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 820.3757 (pause 0.46) 820.8362 750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 820.8362 and that we needed to embrace that 822.9018 751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 822.9018 (pause 0.90) 823.7971 752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 823.7971 with him 824.1701 753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 824.1701 (pause 0.28) 824.4546 754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 824.4546 and share that with him. 825.2659 755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 825.2659 (pause 0.37) 825.6389 756 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 825.6389 And I'll always remember that. 826.7696 757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 826.7696 (pause 0.21) 826.9760 758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 826.9760 Not quite sure why, but 828.0672 759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 828.0672 (pause 0.12) 828.1884 760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 828.1884 I've always remembered that. 829.0790 761 DCB_int_01 829.8111 Where did you go after that? After you left /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 831.7882 762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 832.0073 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 833.2605 763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 833.2605 (pause 0.17) 833.4330 764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 833.4330 Junior [High School] 834.2583 765 DCB_int_01 833.8107 [Mm-hm.] 834.1558 766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 834.4169 on Forty Ninth Street. 835.3821 767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 835.3821 (pause 0.78) 836.1655 768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 836.1655 Um, 836.5245 769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 836.5245 (pause 0.98) 837.5037 770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 837.5037 what's there now is the new /RD-SCHOOL-4/. They tore the building down and re- 840.4822 771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 840.4822 (pause 0.17) 840.6547 772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 840.6547 rebuilt it. 841.2469 773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 841.2469 (pause 0.55) 841.7971 774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 841.7971 Um, 842.1981 775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 842.1981 (pause 0.39) 842.5898 776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 842.5898 I was 842.9722 777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 842.9722 (pause 0.11) 843.0841 778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 843.0841 um, there when 844.0654 779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 844.0654 (pause 0.18) 844.2451 780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 844.2451 the principal name was uh, /RD-NAME-2/. 845.9459 781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 845.9459 (pause 1.25) 847.1956 782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 847.1956 And I think 848.0955 783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 848.0955 (pause 0.89) 848.9815 784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 848.9815 that was the very beginning 850.8875 785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 850.8875 (pause 0.15) 851.0413 786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 851.0413 of 851.4890 787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 851.4890 (pause 0.73) 852.2210 788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 852.2210 a change for me because 853.4474 789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 853.4474 (pause 0.26) 853.7038 790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 853.7038 [he structured the school-] 854.8789 791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 854.8789 (pause 1.91) 856.7895 792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 856.7895 In his mind it was a university. 858.4169 793 DCB_int_01 859.1583 [Mm, mm-hm.] 859.9476 794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 859.5826 [So he-] 860.0349 795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 860.2634 he 860.5898 796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 860.5898 (pause 0.85) 861.4431 797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 861.4431 gave you the opportunity one, 862.9900 798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 862.9900 (pause 0.75) 863.7361 799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 863.7361 that you had an opinion, 864.7340 800 DCB_int_01 865.2749 Mm. 865.5826 801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 866.0815 didn't mean that you always gonna get your way, 868.0213 802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 868.0213 (pause 0.88) 868.8968 803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 868.8968 but that he 869.6522 804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 869.6522 (pause 0.56) 870.2117 805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 870.2117 pushed us 870.8832 806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 870.8832 (pause 0.27) 871.1536 807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 871.1536 to think 871.7272 808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 871.7272 (pause 0.20) 871.9277 809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 871.9277 beyond. 872.6271 810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 872.6271 (pause 0.23) 872.8602 811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 872.8602 Don't just- 873.5037 812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 873.5037 (pause 0.35) 873.8581 813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 873.8581 just because- No. You need to understand why- why you have these feelings. 877.4008 814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 877.4008 (pause 0.61) 878.0116 815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 878.0116 And I will always remember 879.2100 816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 879.2100 (pause 0.16) 879.3732 817 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 879.3732 Mister /RD-NAME-2/ for that. 880.3151 818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 880.3151 (pause 0.15) 880.4643 819 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 880.4643 Um, 880.8500 820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 880.8500 (pause 0.91) 881.7594 821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 881.7594 but it was also during a time where 883.4101 822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 883.4101 (pause 0.24) 883.6479 823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 883.6479 you couldn't leave campus. You couldn't come out and go to lunch, anything like that. 886.8500 824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 886.8500 (pause 0.31) 887.1626 825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 887.1626 You ate 887.5542 826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 887.5542 (pause 0.12) 887.6708 827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 887.6708 in the 887.9161 828 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 887.9161 (pause 0.09) 888.0065 829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 888.0065 cafeteria or you brought your own lunch. 890.0769 830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 890.0769 (pause 0.30) 890.3753 831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 890.3753 You weren't allowed 891.1027 832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 891.1027 (pause 0.09) 891.1913 833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 891.1913 off of the campus at any time. 893.0786 834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 893.0786 (pause 0.39) 893.4703 835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 893.4703 You know, truancy was really really big then 895.4660 836 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 895.4660 (pause 0.35) 895.8111 837 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 895.8111 so 896.4872 838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 896.4872 (pause 0.66) 897.1493 839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 897.1493 they 897.4291 840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 897.4291 (pause 0.18) 897.6063 841 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 897.6063 kind of 897.9887 842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 897.9887 (pause 0.67) 898.6590 843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 898.6590 had 898.9527 844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 898.9527 (pause 0.15) 899.1066 845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 899.1066 real good control 899.9832 846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 899.9832 (pause 0.67) 900.6547 847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 900.6547 over what you did, 901.2609 848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 901.2609 (pause 0.37) 901.6292 849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 901.6292 I enjoyed going in- um, junior high school. I was a cheerleader. 904.7793 850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 904.7793 (pause 0.77) 905.5449 851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 905.5449 Um, 905.9040 852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 905.9040 (pause 0.28) 906.1791 853 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 906.1791 I actually made captain 907.4241 854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 907.4241 (pause 0.29) 907.7132 855 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 907.7132 uh, think it was my eighth grade year. 909.9001 856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 909.9001 (pause 0.44) 910.3384 857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 910.3384 Because it- back that 911.1439 858 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 911.1439 (pause 0.20) 911.3398 859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 911.3398 time, 911.6428 860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 911.6428 (pause 0.33) 911.9692 861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 911.9692 you know, you had seventh, eighth, and ninth grade. 913.5640 862 DCB_int_01 914.1981 Oh, [okay.] 914.6597 863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 914.3800 [So I] was a captain seventh grade- eighth grade. Excuse me. 916.8327 864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 917.1579 And then I was a captain ninth grade. 918.6827 865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 918.6827 (pause 0.30) 918.9811 866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 918.9811 I was also on the dance- 920.1701 867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 920.1701 (pause 0.49) 920.6644 868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 920.6644 dance team 921.2986 869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 921.2986 (pause 0.30) 921.6016 870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 921.6016 for the school. 922.1565 871 DCB_int_01 922.1600 Were you still taking private [lessons at this point?] 924.0345 872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 923.4190 [I was still taking] private lessons, and actually at- 925.3868 873 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 925.7598 by- 926.2541 874 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 926.2541 (pause 0.72) 926.9768 875 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 926.9768 Uh, not until I got into high school did I start dancing professionally. 930.3796 876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 930.3796 (pause 0.35) 930.7340 877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 930.7340 And professionally meaning, we had a- 932.4359 878 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 932.4359 (pause 0.14) 932.5711 879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 932.5711 a little dance group, and we would perform at different 934.7709 880 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 934.7709 (pause 0.26) 935.0273 881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 935.0273 location- diff- different 936.1260 882 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 936.1260 (pause 0.28) 936.4029 883 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 936.4029 events and things like [that.] 937.5826 884 DCB_int_01 937.2795 [Mm-hm.] 937.6759 885 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 938.3706 Um, 938.9069 886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 938.9069 (pause 0.98) 939.8861 887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 939.8861 junior high school was really good. 941.0833 888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 941.0833 (pause 0.46) 941.5449 889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 941.5449 It was the first time I got a chance to travel out- 943.3401 890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 943.3401 (pause 0.21) 943.5500 891 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 943.5500 for, 943.7924 892 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 943.7924 (pause 0.16) 943.9556 893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 943.9556 you know, ninth grade you got to go to 945.3219 894 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 945.3219 (pause 0.39) 945.7136 895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 945.7136 um, Florida. 946.3757 896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 946.3757 (pause 0.59) 946.9621 897 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 946.9621 We went to Disney World, and we went to 948.7074 898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 948.7074 (pause 0.49) 949.1956 899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 949.1956 um, Atlanta, 950.1049 900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 950.1049 (pause 0.10) 950.2028 901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 950.2028 and the whole Peachtree Street. 951.8721 902 DCB_int_01 952.3978 952.5517 903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 952.9900 You know, [and] 953.4097 904 DCB_int_01 953.2791 [Mm-hm.] 953.6428 905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 953.8154 Martin Luther King and that 954.7114 906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 954.7114 (pause 0.14) 954.8505 907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 954.8505 whole thing, so 955.8018 908 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 955.8018 (pause 0.40) 956.1981 909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 956.1981 that was- that was good because other schools at that time were not traveling. 959.3537 910 DCB_int_01 959.7314 Mm-hm. 960.0439 911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 960.2304 But 960.5894 912 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 960.5894 (pause 0.33) 960.9158 913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 960.9158 Mister /RD-NAME-2/ made sure that we were able to experience different things, 963.9747 914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 963.9747 (pause 0.48) 964.4538 915 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 964.4538 and- 964.7616 916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 964.7616 (pause 0.09) 964.8502 917 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 964.8502 and we were the- kind of the trail blazers for that for other schools. 967.4800 918 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 967.4800 (pause 0.71) 968.1935 919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 968.1935 And then I left there and went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, which 970.8500 920 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 970.8500 (pause 1.05) 971.9040 921 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 971.9040 um, 972.4962 922 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 972.4962 (pause 0.97) 973.4660 923 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 973.4660 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was- 974.5618 924 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 974.5618 (pause 3.18) 977.7454 925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 977.7454 978.1698 926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 978.1698 (pause 1.30) 979.4660 927 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 979.4660 I enjoyed my time at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 981.0281 928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 981.0281 (pause 0.91) 981.9374 929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 981.9374 I truly developed and became into- came into my own. 984.3423 930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 984.3423 (pause 0.81) 985.1536 931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 985.1536 Um, 985.4894 932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 985.4894 (pause 1.59) 987.0747 933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 987.0747 by that time, 987.8768 934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 987.8768 (pause 0.40) 988.2813 935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 988.2813 I was- 988.6543 936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 988.6543 (pause 0.27) 988.9248 937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 988.9248 I was dancing 989.9366 938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 989.9366 (pause 0.26) 990.1931 939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 990.1931 on a level- 990.9018 940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 990.9018 (pause 0.38) 991.2842 941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 991.2842 I had 991.6432 942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 991.6432 (pause 0.30) 991.9417 943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 991.9417 studied in New York, 993.1587 944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 993.1587 (pause 0.31) 993.4664 945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 993.4664 [um] 993.8768 946 DCB_int_01 993.7882 [Mm.] 994.1006 947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 994.2580 994.4177 948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 994.4177 (pause 0.33) 994.7476 949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 994.7476 for just a brief time. I- 995.9599 950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 995.9599 (pause 0.16) 996.1231 951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 996.1231 The dancer school that I belonged to, 997.3125 952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 997.3125 (pause 0.21) 997.5220 953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 997.5220 they would take a group of kids to New York to study, 1000.0726 954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1000.0726 (pause 0.54) 1000.6170 955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1000.6170 and so I was- I was selected and able to do that. 1003.3868 956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1003.3868 (pause 0.64) 1004.0302 957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1004.0302 And 1004.3893 958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1004.3893 (pause 0.14) 1004.5245 959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1004.5245 I was able to bring that training back, so when I got into tenth grade, 1007.2232 960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1007.2232 (pause 0.71) 1007.9319 961 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1007.9319 you know they- kids change classes? So like, maybe the third period 1011.3172 962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1011.3172 (pause 0.50) 1011.8161 963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1011.8161 I 1012.0819 964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1012.0819 (pause 0.59) 1012.6730 965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1012.6730 took an advance. 1013.7548 966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1013.7548 (pause 0.29) 1014.0439 967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1014.0439 I was the only 1014.7619 968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1014.7619 (pause 0.41) 1015.1769 969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1015.1769 ninth grader taking advanced twelfth grade 1017.4245 970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1017.4245 (pause 0.30) 1017.7229 971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1017.7229 um, dancing. 1018.4503 972 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1018.4503 (pause 0.64) 1019.0880 973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1019.0880 But then, 1019.6988 974 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1019.6988 (pause 0.23) 1019.9273 975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1019.9273 um, like maybe the sixth period, 1021.4800 976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1021.4800 (pause 0.34) 1021.8204 977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1021.8204 I actually was a student teacher 1023.1820 978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1023.1820 (pause 0.91) 1024.0959 979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1024.0959 while I was in high school s- And I got credit for that. 1026.0112 980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1026.0112 (pause 0.13) 1026.1418 981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1026.1418 So 1026.4868 982 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1026.4868 (pause 0.58) 1027.0650 983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1027.0650 um, 1027.3401 984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1027.3401 (pause 0.46) 1027.8018 985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1027.8018 never had to take gym. 1028.5711 986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1028.5711 (pause 0.44) 1029.0141 987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1029.0141 That was a good thing. 1029.6623 988 DCB_int_01 1030.1052 1030.4316 989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1030.8595 I- [I think I] was a senior before I really realized where the gym was. 1033.5733 990 DCB_int_01 1031.0600 [] 1031.3631 991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1033.9650 [Or the locker room for the gym.] 1035.9176 992 DCB_int_01 1034.4779 [] 1036.1286 993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1036.5611 Cause you know, the dance room you have your own. 1038.2117 994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1038.2117 (pause 0.79) 1038.9997 995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1038.9997 Um, but I- I enjoyed it because 1040.7437 996 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1040.7437 (pause 0.15) 1040.8929 997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1040.8929 it gave me an opportunity for a lot of independence. 1043.1113 998 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1043.1113 (pause 0.43) 1043.5449 999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1043.5449 1043.6662 1000 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1043.6662 (pause 0.44) 1044.1091 1001 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1044.1091 I was still studying. I was still dancing 1046.1748 1002 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1046.1748 (pause 0.62) 1046.7903 1003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1046.7903 at- 1046.9955 1004 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1046.9955 (pause 0.20) 1047.1960 1005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1047.1960 And I started dancing I think [the eleventh grade I think for Parks and Recreation], 1050.7380 1006 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1050.7380 (pause 0.51) 1051.2469 1007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1051.2469 and I was dancing with them. 1052.5991 1008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1052.5991 (pause 0.18) 1052.7810 1009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1052.7810 Um, 1053.2659 1010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1053.2659 (pause 1.36) 1054.6217 1011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1054.6217 so I was dancing 1055.8060 1012 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1055.8060 (pause 0.14) 1055.9506 1013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1055.9506 two or three times during the day in school, 1057.6945 1014 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1057.6945 (pause 0.14) 1057.8344 1015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1057.8344 and then I would dance in the evening 1059.3405 1016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1059.3405 (pause 0.43) 1059.7695 1017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1059.7695 at my little part time job 1061.0413 1018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1061.0413 (pause 0.33) 1061.3677 1019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1061.3677 for /RD-WORK-6/. 1062.3982 1020 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1062.3982 (pause 0.51) 1062.9065 1021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1062.9065 And then by the twelfth grade I was dancing for /RD-NAME-3/, 1066.0913 1022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1066.0913 (pause 0.45) 1066.5377 1023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1066.5377 who was 1067.1905 1024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1067.1905 (pause 0.11) 1067.2978 1025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1067.2978 a prominent dance instructor for /RD-WORK-6/. 1070.0256 1026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1070.0256 (pause 0.33) 1070.3567 1027 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1070.3567 So I was dancing on Saturdays as well. 1072.0959 1028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1072.0959 (pause 0.12) 1072.2125 1029 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1072.2125 But I was actually studying at that point, 1073.9506 1030 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1073.9506 (pause 0.68) 1074.6314 1031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1074.6314 and I was studying point. 1075.8087 1032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1075.8087 (pause 0.37) 1076.1795 1033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1076.1795 And I had stayed on point 1077.3778 1034 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1077.3778 (pause 0.08) 1077.4618 1035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1077.4618 until- 1077.9700 1036 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1077.9700 (pause 0.44) 1078.4072 1037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1078.4072 from maybe age sixteen to maybe age twenty one? 1082.0909 1038 DCB_int_01 1082.4872 Mm-hm. 1082.8649 1039 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1083.2146 And 1083.8208 1040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1083.8208 (pause 0.11) 1083.9327 1041 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1083.9327 I think- 1084.6077 1042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1084.6077 (pause 0.07) 1084.6776 1043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1084.6776 Cause that- 1084.9714 1044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1084.9714 (pause 0.14) 1085.1159 1045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1085.1159 that was around the time that I 1086.1931 1046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1086.1931 (pause 0.58) 1086.7713 1047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1086.7713 had my daughter. 1087.4847 1048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1087.4847 (pause 0.37) 1087.8531 1049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1087.8531 I was married, 1088.4825 1050 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1088.4825 (pause 0.23) 1088.7110 1051 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1088.7110 and then I had my daughter. 1089.5923 1052 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1089.5923 (pause 0.33) 1089.9222 1053 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1089.9222 And I gave up um, 1091.1859 1054 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1091.1859 (pause 0.60) 1091.7827 1055 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1091.7827 dancing- 1092.2537 1056 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1092.2537 (pause 0.49) 1092.7480 1057 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1092.7480 Studying. 1093.2282 1058 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1093.2282 (pause 0.98) 1094.2074 1059 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1094.2074 I didn't do that anymore. 1095.2274 1060 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1095.2274 (pause 1.32) 1096.5471 1061 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1096.5471 It was like, okay, now you're a mommy, you're a wife. You need to 1098.9065 1062 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1098.9065 (pause 0.76) 1099.6619 1063 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1099.6619 become mommy and wife. 1100.7072 1064 DCB_int_01 1101.0747 So transition from high school to 1103.2931 1065 DCB_int_01 1103.2931 (pause 0.50) 1103.7967 1066 DCB_int_01 1103.7967 dancing, and now becoming mommy wife. 1106.4965 1067 DCB_int_01 1106.4965 (pause 0.33) 1106.8229 1068 DCB_int_01 1106.8229 Um, when you left home 1108.4456 1069 DCB_int_01 1108.4456 (pause 0.12) 1108.5704 1070 DCB_int_01 1108.5704 at that point, 1109.3650 1071 DCB_int_01 1109.3650 (pause 0.35) 1109.7175 1072 DCB_int_01 1109.7175 where did you 1110.3516 1073 DCB_int_01 1110.3516 (pause 0.16) 1110.5101 1074 DCB_int_01 1110.5101 go? 1110.9904 1075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1111.5173 Well, 1111.9323 1076 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1111.9323 (pause 0.45) 1112.3800 1077 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1112.3800 before um, becoming mommy wife 1114.4212 1078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1114.4212 (pause 0.07) 1114.4958 1079 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1114.4958 um, 1114.7616 1080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1114.7616 (pause 0.17) 1114.9294 1081 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1114.9294 /transession/- 1115.5682 1082 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1115.5682 (pause 0.20) 1115.7687 1083 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1115.7687 transitioning out of high school 1117.0417 1084 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1117.0417 (pause 0.28) 1117.3262 1085 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1117.3262 I went to college. I went to the University- Well, what's now the /RD-SCHOOL-8/. 1121.0740 1086 DCB_int_01 1121.3724 Mm-hm. 1121.6848 1087 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1122.1138 Um, 1122.5711 1088 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1122.5711 (pause 0.23) 1122.8039 1089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1122.8039 I did that for three years, 1124.2401 1090 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1124.2401 (pause 1.15) 1125.3872 1091 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1125.3872 and I didn't enjoy it 1126.5109 1092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1126.5109 (pause 0.34) 1126.8502 1093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1126.8502 because I was working. 1127.6568 1094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1127.6568 (pause 0.13) 1127.7874 1095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1127.7874 I also had a- 1128.5148 1096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1128.5148 (pause 0.30) 1128.8132 1097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1128.8132 um, a job. 1129.6852 1098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1129.6852 (pause 0.24) 1129.9230 1099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1129.9230 Uh, 1130.3706 1100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1130.3706 (pause 0.52) 1130.8882 1101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1130.8882 I worked for /RD-WORK-2/ 1131.7736 1102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1131.7736 (pause 0.21) 1131.9840 1103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1131.9840 /RD-WORK-1/ 1132.4223 1104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1132.4223 (pause 0.18) 1132.6030 1105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1132.6030 /RD-WORK-2/ 1133.2185 1106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1133.2185 (pause 0.22) 1133.4423 1107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1133.4423 that Marion Barry 1134.2723 1108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1134.2723 (pause 0.75) 1135.0184 1109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1135.0184 ran. 1135.4241 1110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1135.4241 (pause 0.56) 1135.9883 1111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1135.9883 And then I also had an opportunity to do this- 1138.6415 1112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1138.6415 (pause 0.43) 1139.0693 1113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1139.0693 They used to call it Stay in School program, 1140.5754 1114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1140.5754 (pause 0.44) 1141.0137 1115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1141.0137 where you went to school half a day and then- 1142.7064 1116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1142.7064 (pause 0.33) 1143.0374 1117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1143.0374 My senior year you went to school half a day, and then you worked a half a day. 1145.7175 1118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1145.7175 (pause 0.54) 1146.2537 1119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1146.2537 S- 1146.3936 1120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1146.3936 (pause 0.14) 1146.5381 1121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1146.5381 so I had my first taste of government 1148.3287 1122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1148.3287 (pause 0.93) 1149.2566 1123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1149.2566 employment, and I worked at a computer room. 1150.8500 1124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1150.8500 (pause 1.09) 1151.9413 1125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1151.9413 And I was juggling 1153.1023 1126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1153.1023 (pause 0.16) 1153.2609 1127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1153.2609 dancing, schooling, working. 1155.2706 1128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1155.2706 (pause 0.85) 1156.1192 1129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1156.1192 Excuse me. 1156.9714 1130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1156.9714 (pause 0.42) 1157.3957 1131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1157.3957 Um, 1157.8107 1132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1157.8107 (pause 0.98) 1158.7899 1133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1158.7899 my father gave me an opportunity 1160.5385 1134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1160.5385 (pause 0.66) 1161.2006 1135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1161.2006 or an option, 1161.8255 1136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1161.8255 (pause 0.61) 1162.4352 1137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1162.4352 Either you can stay in school 1164.0112 1138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1164.0112 (pause 0.73) 1164.7433 1139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1164.7433 or you can work full time. 1165.6759 1140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1165.6759 (pause 0.69) 1166.3660 1141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1166.3660 You weren't gonna sit in this house and be lazy, 1168.0773 1142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1168.0773 (pause 0.22) 1168.3011 1143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1168.3011 but you can do one or the other. [So he] gave me that option, 1170.3796 1144 DCB_int_01 1169.3444 [Mm-hm.] 1169.5729 1145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1171.0137 and 1171.6386 1146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1171.6386 (pause 0.46) 1172.0955 1147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1172.0955 I chose 1173.4291 1148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1173.4291 (pause 0.98) 1174.4130 1149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1174.4130 um- 1174.9823 1150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1174.9823 (pause 0.46) 1175.4470 1151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1175.4470 I tried to do school and work full time. 1177.6059 1152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1177.6059 (pause 0.54) 1178.1422 1153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1178.1422 That didn't work. 1178.8136 1154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1178.8136 (pause 0.62) 1179.4338 1155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1179.4338 Tha- That was just too much. 1180.3337 1156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1180.3337 (pause 0.35) 1180.6869 1157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1180.6869 So by the time I was twenty, I decided, Okay, I don't want to do this anymore. 1183.6199 1158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1183.6199 (pause 0.68) 1184.3007 1159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1184.3007 1184.4359 1160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1184.4359 (pause 0.47) 1184.9069 1161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1184.9069 So 1185.5690 1162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1185.5690 (pause 0.22) 1185.7928 1163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1185.7928 I 1186.3057 1164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1186.3057 (pause 0.51) 1186.8128 1165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1186.8128 um- I got married at twenty. 1188.3096 1166 DCB_int_01 1188.4495 Mm-hm. 1189.1863 1167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1189.2935 1189.4054 1168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1189.4054 (pause 0.38) 1189.7831 1169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1189.7831 I had my daughter at twenty one, 1191.1271 1170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1191.1271 (pause 1.56) 1192.6869 1171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1192.6869 and life just 1193.5123 1172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1193.5123 (pause 0.23) 1193.7454 1173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1193.7454 took 1194.0485 1174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1194.0485 (pause 0.14) 1194.1837 1175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1194.1837 a turn f- on its own 1195.6013 1176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1195.6013 (pause 0.62) 1196.2261 1177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1196.2261 from that. 1196.7670 1178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1196.7670 (pause 0.73) 1197.4991 1179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1197.4991 Uh, and I stayed married only 1199.0600 1180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1199.0600 (pause 0.53) 1199.5916 1181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1199.5916 maybe three years cause we were both young. He was twenty three. I was twenty. 1202.3986 1182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1202.3986 (pause 0.45) 1202.8509 1183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1202.8509 Clueless. 1203.4202 1184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1203.4202 (pause 0.68) 1204.1006 1185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1204.1006 Um, but I did it, 1205.0087 1186 DCB_int_01 1205.2139 Mm-hm. 1205.5605 1187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1205.5449 and got my daughter from it. And it was a blessing 1207.4614 1188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1207.6013 cause I have her. 1208.2914 1189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1208.2914 (pause 0.76) 1209.0514 1190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1209.0514 Um, 1209.6250 1191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1209.6250 (pause 0.79) 1210.4118 1192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1210.4118 but it taught me a valuable lesson that 1212.5335 1193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1212.5335 (pause 1.62) 1214.1515 1194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1214.1515 I was not gonna go back home 1215.4291 1195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1215.4291 (pause 0.69) 1216.1146 1196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1216.1146 with a child. 1216.8500 1197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1216.8500 (pause 0.68) 1217.5263 1198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1217.5263 I was determined I was gonna make it on my own. 1219.3168 1199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1219.3168 (pause 0.50) 1219.8158 1200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1219.8158 Now 1220.1142 1201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1220.1142 (pause 0.16) 1220.2727 1202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1220.2727 along that time I had 1221.5270 1203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1221.5270 (pause 0.22) 1221.7462 1204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1221.7462 all the support in the world from my parents, 1223.4377 1205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1223.4377 (pause 0.87) 1224.3050 1206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1224.3050 um, both 1225.0277 1207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1225.0277 (pause 0.30) 1225.3308 1208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1225.3308 emotionally 1226.2074 1209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1226.2074 (pause 0.29) 1226.4965 1210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1226.4965 and 1227.0328 1211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1227.0328 (pause 0.24) 1227.2752 1212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1227.2752 um 1227.7742 1213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1227.7742 (pause 0.84) 1228.6170 1214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1228.6170 1228.6776 1215 DCB_int_01 1229.2372 [/Just want to move this] so-/ 1230.3609 1216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1229.2418 [financially.] 1229.9178 1217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1230.8599 Mkay. 1231.1536 1218 DCB_int_01 1231.2003 now that you're not holding 1232.1422 1219 DCB_int_01 1232.1422 (pause 0.69) 1232.8323 1220 DCB_int_01 1232.8323 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. 1233.5550 1221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1234.3197 Um, 1234.7662 1222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1234.7662 (pause 0.77) 1235.5356 1223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1235.5356 I had um, 1236.5708 1224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1236.5708 (pause 3.19) 1239.7602 1225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1239.7602 really good- very good foundation, very good support. 1241.7175 1226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1241.7175 (pause 1.25) 1242.9671 1227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1242.9671 But 1243.4381 1228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1243.4381 (pause 1.87) 1245.3125 1229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1245.3125 my independence was important to me. 1247.3677 1230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1247.3677 (pause 1.21) 1248.5754 1231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1248.5754 So 1248.7806 1232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1248.7806 (pause 0.14) 1248.9205 1233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1248.9205 I was not gonna go back home 1250.0955 1234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1250.0955 (pause 0.28) 1250.3753 1235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1250.3753 with my baby 1251.0841 1236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1251.0841 (pause 1.31) 1252.3932 1237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1252.3932 because my marriage didn't work, which my father told me not to do in the first place. 1255.4940 1238 DCB_int_01 1255.5950 Hm. 1255.8242 1239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1256.1935 Uh, but I was defiant cause I'm just like him, 1258.3430 1240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1258.3430 (pause 0.43) 1258.7755 1241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1258.7755 and I did it anyway. 1259.6195 1242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1259.6195 (pause 0.46) 1260.0765 1243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1260.0765 1260.4589 1244 DCB_int_01 1260.5568 ] 1260.9485 1245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1261.0184 1261.0837 1246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1261.0837 (pause 0.06) 1261.1396 1247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1261.1396 Had great big elaborate wedding. 1262.4686 1248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1262.4686 (pause 1.38) 1263.8441 1249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1263.8441 Yep. 1264.1099 1250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1264.1099 (pause 0.22) 1264.3326 1251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1264.3326 Mm-hm. 1264.6450 1252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1264.6450 (pause 0.28) 1264.9248 1253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1264.9248 Real big wedding 1265.5822 1254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1265.5822 (pause 0.28) 1265.8620 1255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1265.8620 1265.9459 1256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1265.9459 \wi 1266.3842 1257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1266.3842 with the train, the dress, the whole nine yards. Yep, 1268.4686 1258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1268.4686 (pause 0.16) 1268.6318 1259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1268.6318 did that. 1268.9442 1260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1268.9442 (pause 0.90) 1269.8441 1261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1269.8441 Um, 1270.2545 1262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1270.2545 (pause 0.20) 1270.4538 1263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1270.4538 but I didn't let that 1271.2045 1264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1271.2045 (pause 0.54) 1271.7454 1265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1271.7454 keep me down. 1272.3516 1266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1272.3516 (pause 1.16) 1273.5080 1267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1273.5080 You know, I saw it 1274.3520 1268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1274.3520 (pause 0.46) 1274.8136 1269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1274.8136 as a opportunity to prove to the world that 1277.1253 1270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1277.1253 (pause 0.13) 1277.2558 1271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1277.2558 I can do this, 1278.2397 1272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1278.2397 (pause 0.54) 1278.7759 1273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1278.7759 and I can do this by myself. 1280.1095 1274 DCB_int_01 1280.3007 Right. 1280.5152 1275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1281.1960 You know. 1281.4757 1276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1281.4757 (pause 0.63) 1282.1052 1277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1282.1052 Um, 1282.7860 1278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1282.7860 (pause 1.65) 1284.4355 1279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1284.4355 and then my father kind of put in my mind, 1287.0188 1280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1287.0188 (pause 1.96) 1288.9807 1281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1288.9807 I know you can do this because I raised you so that you can be self sufficient. You can take care of yourself. 1293.1447 1282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1293.1447 (pause 1.44) 1294.5797 1283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1294.5797 Now, his whole model was, 1295.9040 1284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1295.9040 (pause 0.35) 1296.2537 1285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1296.2537 I'm still here if you need me, 1297.6805 1286 DCB_int_01 1298.2447 Right. 1298.4126 1287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1298.7903 but I need- 1299.1820 1288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1299.1820 (pause 0.10) 1299.2799 1289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1299.2799 You know, you- 1299.8488 1290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1299.8488 (pause 0.43) 1300.2813 1291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1300.2813 you- 1300.4398 1292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1300.4398 (pause 0.13) 1300.5704 1293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1300.5704 He put in- He instilled in me 1302.1464 1294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1302.1464 (pause 0.40) 1302.5428 1295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1302.5428 to- 1302.7060 1296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1302.7060 (pause 0.14) 1302.8459 1297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1302.8459 to just do it myself. 1303.8437 1298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1303.8437 (pause 0.10) 1303.9417 1299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1303.9417 And I did. 1304.3940 1300 DCB_int_01 1304.6224 Mm. 1304.7996 1301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1304.8509 You know, 1305.1074 1302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1305.1074 (pause 0.29) 1305.4011 1303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1305.4011 I look back now, do I have any regrets? Absolutely not. 1307.7967 1304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1307.7967 (pause 1.36) 1309.1536 1305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1309.1536 Some of the choices that I made- 1310.5665 1306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1310.5665 (pause 0.48) 1311.0421 1307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1311.0421 Whoo. 1311.2892 1308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1311.2892 (pause 0.53) 1311.8208 1309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1311.8208 Probably shouldn't have made them, 1312.7347 1310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1312.7347 (pause 0.11) 1312.8455 1311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1312.8455 but I did, and 1314.0625 1312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1314.0625 (pause 0.44) 1314.5008 1313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1314.5008 I think it 1314.9298 1314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1314.9298 (pause 1.16) 1316.0909 1315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1316.0909 makes you a better person 1317.5037 1316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1317.5037 (pause 0.19) 1317.6949 1317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1317.6949 if you can see- 1318.5715 1318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1318.5715 (pause 0.50) 1319.0740 1319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1319.0740 Look at all the positive things that came out of that, the decisions that you made. 1322.2774 1320 DCB_int_01 1322.7250 Right. 1322.9768 1321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1323.4524 Have enough common sense, 1324.3477 1322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1324.3477 (pause 0.09) 1324.4398 1323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1324.4398 don't do it again. 1325.2092 1324 DCB_int_01 1325.5076 Mm-hm. 1325.9319 1325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1327.2376 Well sometimes we don't always do that, 1329.0048 1326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1329.0048 (pause 0.08) 1329.0887 1327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1329.0887 but 1329.3405 1328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1329.3405 (pause 0.16) 1329.5037 1329 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1329.5037 um- 1329.8068 1330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1329.8068 (pause 0.28) 1330.0819 1331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1330.0819 But I look at it this way, I only had one child cause I realized 1332.3656 1332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1332.3656 (pause 0.37) 1332.7386 1333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1332.7386 I didn't wanna raise more than one 1334.0069 1334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1334.0069 (pause 0.21) 1334.2214 1335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1334.2214 child by myself. 1335.2846 1336 DCB_int_01 1335.5830 Mm-hm. 1335.8395 1337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1335.8803 Not to say that was gonna be the end, 1337.1579 1338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1337.1579 (pause 0.19) 1337.3491 1339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1337.3491 but 1337.6801 1340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1337.6801 (pause 0.62) 1338.2956 1341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1338.2956 I wanted to make sure that I could 1339.8251 1342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1339.8251 (pause 0.13) 1339.9556 1343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1339.9556 af- 1340.3193 1344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1340.3193 (pause 0.42) 1340.7437 1345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1340.7437 All the things that my parents were able to give me, I wanted to always make sure 1344.6500 1346 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1344.6500 (pause 0.38) 1345.0277 1347 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1345.0277 I was able to give her. 1346.0815 1348 DCB_int_01 1346.5059 [Right.] 1346.7250 1349 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1346.5152 [And] that was the most important thing to me 1348.1705 1350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1348.4258 because 1348.7616 1351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1348.7616 (pause 0.13) 1348.8921 1352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1348.8921 she didn't ask to come into this world. She didn't ask to be a part of the confusion 1351.7598 1353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1351.7598 (pause 0.36) 1352.1188 1354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1352.1188 or the choices that I had made. 1353.5783 1355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1353.5783 (pause 0.57) 1354.1507 1356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1354.1507 So that was very important to me. 1355.4983 1357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1355.4983 (pause 1.52) 1357.0137 1358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1357.0137 So 1357.4660 1359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1357.4660 (pause 0.13) 1357.5919 1360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1357.5919 I 1358.1142 1361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1358.1142 (pause 0.25) 1358.3613 1362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1358.3613 um, 1358.6970 1363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1358.6970 (pause 1.42) 1360.1146 1364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1360.1146 stopped going to school. 1361.1039 1365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1361.1039 (pause 0.75) 1361.8527 1366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1361.8527 Uh, 1362.0532 1367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1362.0532 (pause 0.48) 1362.5335 1368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1362.5335 I had 1362.7573 1369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1362.7573 (pause 0.77) 1363.5267 1370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1363.5267 a year 1364.1748 1371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1364.1748 (pause 0.22) 1364.3986 1372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1364.3986 and a half of a semester to finish, but I gave it up, 1367.1253 1373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1367.1253 (pause 0.53) 1367.6568 1374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1367.6568 1367.7268 1375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1367.7268 (pause 0.49) 1368.2210 1376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1368.2210 and I worked full time. 1369.3774 1377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1369.3774 (pause 1.45) 1370.8323 1378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1370.8323 And I was a wife, a mother, and worked for full time. 1372.7942 1379 DCB_int_01 1373.2092 [Where'd you work] at that point? 1374.3889 1380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1373.2278 [And that was-] 1373.7268 1381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1374.8599 At that point f- I worked for a um, 1376.8090 1382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1376.8090 (pause 0.17) 1376.9815 1383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1376.9815 computer science corporation. 1378.1985 1384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1378.1985 (pause 0.54) 1378.7429 1385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1378.7429 I was in the computer room. 1379.7594 1386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1379.7594 (pause 0.44) 1380.1977 1387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1380.1977 I was a computer operator, and that was way back before there was anything that 1383.7136 1388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1383.7136 (pause 0.79) 1384.5051 1389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1384.5051 everyone calls now. 1385.2885 1390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1385.2885 (pause 0.38) 1385.6662 1391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1385.6662 There was no such thing as iPods and laptops. 1388.0023 1392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1388.0023 (pause 0.47) 1388.4686 1393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1388.4686 Uh, 1388.8929 1394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1388.8929 (pause 0.73) 1389.6250 1395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1389.6250 back then they were 1390.4118 1396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1390.4118 (pause 0.07) 1390.4864 1397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1390.4864 mainframes. 1391.7874 1398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1391.7874 (pause 1.09) 1392.8738 1399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1392.8738 And you tell people that now, like, What? What is that? Yeah. 1395.3452 1400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1395.3452 (pause 0.62) 1395.9700 1401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1395.9700 Um, back when the computer took up- computer room took up like a whole floor. 1399.2982 1402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1399.2982 (pause 0.53) 1399.8251 1403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1399.8251 Great big /uninits/. 1400.9395 1404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1400.9395 (pause 0.45) 1401.3918 1405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1401.3918 So I did that 1402.5342 1406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1402.5342 (pause 0.39) 1402.9248 1407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1402.9248 for 1403.6801 1408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1403.6801 (pause 0.55) 1404.2257 1409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1404.2257 maybe 1405.1676 1410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1405.1676 (pause 1.59) 1406.7577 1411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1406.7577 nine years? 1407.6016 1412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1407.6016 (pause 0.67) 1408.2766 1413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1408.2766 Cause I think I was like maybe thirty, 1409.7641 1414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1409.7641 (pause 0.52) 1410.2863 1415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1410.2863 thirty one, 1410.9391 1416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1410.9391 (pause 0.58) 1411.5173 1417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1411.5173 before I s- 1411.9790 1418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1411.9790 (pause 0.23) 1412.2121 1419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1412.2121 started changing gears in my- 1413.8395 1420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1413.8395 (pause 0.18) 1414.0202 1421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1414.0202 in my profession. 1414.7948 1422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1414.7948 (pause 1.10) 1415.8993 1423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1415.8993 By that time I was divorced, 1417.4567 1424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1417.4567 (pause 1.18) 1418.6411 1425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1418.6411 and I bought my first home. I bought a townhouse in Forestville, 1421.9366 1426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1421.9366 (pause 0.70) 1422.6407 1427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1422.6407 um, when I was twenty six. 1423.8531 1428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1423.8531 (pause 0.97) 1424.8183 1429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1424.8183 1424.8975 1430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1424.8975 (pause 0.32) 1425.2193 1431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1425.2193 Sight unseen. 1426.1052 1432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1426.1052 (pause 0.50) 1426.6030 1433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1426.6030 They showed me a picture on the piece of paper. /A little/ 1428.5987 1434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1428.5987 (pause 1.58) 1430.1795 1435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1430.1795 plan. 1430.5945 1436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1430.5945 (pause 0.12) 1430.7157 1437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1430.7157 1431.1913 1438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1431.1913 (pause 0.96) 1432.1519 1439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1432.1519 Little brochure. 1432.9248 1440 DCB_int_01 1432.8487 Hm. 1433.1106 1441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1433.4284 I bought my first house, I qualified for and everything, by myself. 1436.5338 1442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1436.5338 (pause 0.74) 1437.2752 1443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1437.2752 And 1437.8814 1444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1437.8814 (pause 0.56) 1438.4445 1445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1438.4445 that was a major accomplishment. 1439.6801 1446 DCB_int_01 1440.1418 Mm-hm. 1440.5396 1447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1440.8738 Um, 1441.4614 1448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1441.4614 (pause 0.55) 1442.0069 1449 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1442.0069 my 1442.2634 1450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1442.2634 (pause 0.21) 1442.4686 1451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1442.4686 daughter, 1442.8789 1452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1442.8789 (pause 0.09) 1442.9722 1453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1442.9722 I put her in private school. She went to /RD-NAME-6/. 1445.6113 1454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1445.6113 (pause 0.86) 1446.4682 1455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1446.4682 So 1446.9951 1456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1446.9951 (pause 0.29) 1447.2888 1457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1447.2888 I felt like I was evolving. 1448.7763 1458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1448.7763 (pause 0.21) 1448.9908 1459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1448.9908 I bought my first home. 1450.1798 1460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1450.1798 (pause 0.77) 1450.9481 1461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1450.9481 I purchased my own car. 1452.2630 1462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1452.2630 (pause 1.14) 1453.4008 1463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1453.4008 Um, that was my second car though. 1454.5478 1464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1454.5478 (pause 0.10) 1454.6504 1465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1454.6504 My /per-/ my parents 1455.6623 1466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1455.6623 (pause 0.31) 1455.9747 1467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1455.9747 purchased the first one. 1456.7382 1468 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1456.7382 (pause 0.90) 1457.6335 1469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1457.6335 Um, 1458.3796 1470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1458.3796 (pause 0.56) 1458.9438 1471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1458.9438 and 1459.7365 1472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1459.7365 (pause 0.40) 1460.1328 1473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1460.1328 my child was in private school, 1461.4944 1474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1461.4944 (pause 1.11) 1462.6030 1475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1462.6030 so I'm thinking back in those days, that's 1464.4355 1476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1464.4355 (pause 0.30) 1464.7340 1477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1464.7340 the early 1465.3635 1478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1465.3635 (pause 0.34) 1465.7038 1479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1465.7038 eighties. 1466.2681 1480 DCB_int_01 1466.6271 Mm. 1466.7670 1481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1467.0747 That was major. 1467.7695 1482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1467.7695 (pause 0.46) 1468.2311 1483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1468.2311 I was twenty six years old. 1469.3164 1484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1469.3164 (pause 0.41) 1469.7268 1485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1469.7268 That was major. 1470.3796 1486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1470.3796 (pause 1.16) 1471.5360 1487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1471.5360 Um, 1472.1328 1488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1472.1328 (pause 0.35) 1472.4872 1489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1472.4872 so 1472.7950 1490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1472.7950 (pause 0.29) 1473.0887 1491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1473.0887 life went 1473.5597 1492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1473.5597 (pause 0.57) 1474.1332 1493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1474.1332 well for quite awhile, and 1475.4610 1494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1475.4610 (pause 0.11) 1475.5682 1495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1475.5682 then 1476.0765 1496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1476.0765 (pause 0.63) 1476.7060 1497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1476.7060 I think at thirty- 1478.0722 1498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1478.0722 (pause 0.68) 1478.7483 1499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1478.7483 I think I was thirty. 1479.6483 1500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1479.6483 (pause 0.56) 1480.2113 1501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1480.2113 I got married again. 1481.1113 1502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1481.1113 (pause 0.87) 1481.9786 1503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1481.9786 I dated for three years, and then I got married at thirty. 1483.9090 1504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1483.9090 (pause 1.11) 1485.0234 1505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1485.0234 Um, 1485.7089 1506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1485.7089 (pause 0.63) 1486.3372 1507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1486.3372 and that was going well. 1487.3910 1508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1487.3910 (pause 0.37) 1487.7594 1509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1487.7594 We moved 1488.4449 1510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1488.4449 (pause 0.12) 1488.5661 1511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1488.5661 out of 1489.1303 1512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1489.1303 (pause 0.46) 1489.5873 1513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1489.5873 um, my townhome. I sold my townhome 1491.6156 1514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1491.6156 (pause 0.58) 1492.1927 1515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1492.1927 and built um, a home that I'm in now in Clinton. 1494.6034 1516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1494.6034 (pause 1.07) 1495.6759 1517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1495.6759 [And I've been live-] 1496.3753 1518 DCB_int_01 1495.7971 [/And/ you built] it from- 1496.8556 1519 DCB_int_01 1497.2227 [/like/] the [plans] and [everything?] 1498.8500 1520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1497.3032 [We-] 1497.5317 1521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1497.5317 (pause 0.14) 1497.6669 1522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1497.6669 [We-] 1497.8954 1523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1497.8954 (pause 0.35) 1498.2405 1524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1498.2405 [The plans and] everything. 1499.3211 1525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1499.8760 It was 1500.3050 1526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1500.3050 (pause 0.35) 1500.6547 1527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1500.6547 gravel. 1501.1350 1528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1501.1350 (pause 0.57) 1501.7038 1529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1501.7038 The lot was gravel, 1502.7716 1530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1502.7716 (pause 1.14) 1503.9129 1531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1503.9129 and uh, my husband 1505.2931 1532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1505.2931 (pause 0.28) 1505.5682 1533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1505.5682 and I 1505.9226 1534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1505.9226 (pause 1.16) 1507.0837 1535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1507.0837 um, 1507.4800 1536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1507.4800 (pause 1.13) 1508.6131 1537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1508.6131 we kind of designed it the way we wanted it inside, 1510.6275 1538 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1510.6275 (pause 0.87) 1511.4936 1539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1511.4936 and 1512.1045 1540 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1512.1045 (pause 0.13) 1512.2304 1541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1512.2304 um- 1512.7526 1542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1512.7526 (pause 1.04) 1513.7878 1543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1513.7878 Because we actually 1514.6504 1544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1514.6504 (pause 0.12) 1514.7670 1545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1514.7670 bought the home- 1515.5830 1546 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1515.5830 (pause 1.79) 1517.3771 1547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1517.3771 We got married in February of- 1518.7573 1548 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1518.7573 (pause 0.89) 1519.6432 1549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1519.6432 of nineteen 1520.8882 1550 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1520.8882 (pause 1.67) 1522.5564 1551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1522.5564 ninety. 1523.1019 1552 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1523.1019 (pause 0.87) 1523.9739 1553 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1523.9739 Make sure that's right. 1524.5894 1554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1524.5894 (pause 0.57) 1525.1583 1555 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1525.1583 Yeah. 1525.3635 1556 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1525.3635 (pause 0.11) 1525.4754 1557 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1525.4754 Nineteen ninety, 1526.1981 1558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1526.1981 (pause 0.15) 1526.3473 1559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1526.3473 we built the home. 1527.0421 1560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1527.0421 (pause 0.80) 1527.8441 1561 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1527.8441 And we moved into our home 1529.7967 1562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1529.7967 (pause 0.27) 1530.0672 1563 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1530.0672 in 1530.5335 1564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1530.5335 (pause 0.33) 1530.8599 1565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1530.8599 August 1531.3495 1566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1531.3495 (pause 0.09) 1531.4381 1567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1531.4381 of nineteen ninety. 1532.2914 1568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1532.2914 (pause 0.99) 1533.2799 1569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1533.2799 So 1533.6576 1570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1533.6576 (pause 0.77) 1534.4270 1571 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1534.4270 um, 1535.0693 1572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1535.0693 (pause 1.62) 1536.6873 1573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1536.6873 and we lived in that home together 1538.8509 1574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1538.8509 (pause 0.66) 1539.5084 1575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1539.5084 until two thousand five 1540.9947 1576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1540.9947 (pause 0.92) 1541.9133 1577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1541.9133 when we both 1543.1396 1578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1543.1396 (pause 0.13) 1543.2702 1579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1543.2702 realized by this time- 1544.6737 1580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1544.6737 (pause 0.37) 1545.0468 1581 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1545.0468 We were very active in my daughter growing up, 1546.6555 1582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1546.6555 (pause 0.24) 1546.8921 1583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1546.8921 very active in all her school activities. 1548.6967 1584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1548.6967 (pause 0.35) 1549.0464 1585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1549.0464 I mean she was in ROTC. She was a 1551.0048 1586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1551.0048 (pause 0.50) 1551.5084 1587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1551.5084 um, second lieutenant 1552.6135 1588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1552.6135 (pause 0.51) 1553.1206 1589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1553.1206 in 1553.2651 1590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1553.2651 (pause 0.27) 1553.5356 1591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1553.5356 um, it- 1553.9086 1592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1553.9086 (pause 0.49) 1554.4029 1593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1554.4029 was at ROTC Air Force. 1555.9183 1594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1555.9183 (pause 0.70) 1556.6178 1595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1556.6178 Um, 1557.2752 1596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1557.2752 (pause 0.38) 1557.6529 1597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1557.6529 she was a cheerleader. She played volleyball, 1559.5356 1598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1559.5356 (pause 0.33) 1559.8667 1599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1559.8667 so our lives revolved around her. 1561.7645 1600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1561.7645 (pause 0.57) 1562.3333 1601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1562.3333 And my 1563.2752 1602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1563.2752 (pause 0.16) 1563.4338 1603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1563.4338 uh, ex husband 1564.3512 1604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1564.3512 (pause 0.65) 1564.9994 1605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1564.9994 has a son, 1566.0019 1606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1566.0019 (pause 0.50) 1566.5055 1607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1566.5055 so we had him for a brief period where he- 1568.9675 1608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1568.9675 (pause 0.27) 1569.2333 1609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1569.2333 They're from Baltimore. 1569.9001 1610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1569.9001 (pause 0.35) 1570.2486 1611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1570.2486 So he came, and he lived with us for awhile 1572.1558 1612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1572.1558 (pause 0.68) 1572.8365 1613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1572.8365 and- til 1573.7505 1614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1573.7505 (pause 0.14) 1573.8857 1615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1573.8857 that- 1574.0722 1616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1574.0722 (pause 0.12) 1574.1888 1617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1574.1888 we weren't able to 1575.1120 1618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1575.1120 (pause 0.15) 1575.2659 1619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1575.2659 maintain 1575.9001 1620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1575.9001 (pause 0.66) 1576.5564 1621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1576.5564 a cohesive household. 1577.7454 1622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1577.7454 (pause 1.15) 1578.8972 1623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1578.8972 So we- 1579.2515 1624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1579.2515 (pause 0.12) 1579.3728 1625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1579.3728 So his mother came and got him, and 1581.3825 1626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1581.3825 (pause 0.94) 1582.3232 1627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1582.3232 uh, my daughter got a chance to experience- 1584.1931 1628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1584.1931 (pause 0.36) 1584.5568 1629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1584.5568 She didn't really know a whole lot about people being divorced and things like that, 1587.6156 1630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1587.6156 (pause 0.44) 1588.0528 1631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1588.0528 so she got a chance to experience some of those things, 1589.9646 1632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1589.9646 (pause 0.07) 1590.0345 1633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1590.0345 and the dynamics of trying to have a blended family. 1592.2867 1634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1592.2867 (pause 0.96) 1593.2473 1635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1593.2473 And it worked for awhile. 1594.2824 1636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1594.2824 (pause 0.41) 1594.6963 1637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1594.6963 It did, when they were younger. 1595.8060 1638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1595.8060 (pause 0.36) 1596.1698 1639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1596.1698 And as they got older, when he was- Cause he's a year and half older than her- 1599.2706 1640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1599.2706 (pause 0.41) 1599.6856 1641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1599.6856 So when he 1600.4969 1642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1600.4969 (pause 0.23) 1600.7289 1643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1600.7289 decided he didn't 1601.8573 1644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1601.8573 (pause 0.15) 1602.0065 1645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1602.0065 want to 1602.6780 1646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1602.6780 (pause 0.27) 1602.9485 1647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1602.9485 obey with anybody, 1603.8997 1648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1603.8997 (pause 0.69) 1604.5851 1649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1604.5851 um, 1605.0141 1650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1605.0141 (pause 1.57) 1606.5844 1651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1606.5844 we went back to live with his mom. 1607.8154 1652 DCB_int_01 1608.2863 Hm. 1608.4682 1653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1608.6407 /unintelligible/ 1608.8692 1654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1608.8692 (pause 0.21) 1609.0790 1655 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1609.0790 so. 1609.2842 1656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1609.2842 (pause 0.57) 1609.8531 1657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1609.8531 And then my daughter, she graduated from high school. She went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ High School, 1613.0460 1658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1613.0460 (pause 0.76) 1613.8107 1659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1613.8107 and 1614.6267 1660 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1614.6267 (pause 0.25) 1614.8785 1661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1614.8785 uh, she graduated 1615.8064 1662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1615.8064 (pause 0.28) 1616.0862 1663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1616.0862 uh, seventh in her class. 1617.4291 1664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1617.4291 (pause 0.90) 1618.3291 1665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1618.3291 And with Honors. 1619.4157 1666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1619.4157 (pause 0.46) 1619.8713 1667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1619.8713 She got accepted- 1620.9718 1668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1620.9718 (pause 0.66) 1621.6339 1669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1621.6339 Every school that she applied to, she got accepted. She 1624.1006 1670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1624.1006 (pause 0.52) 1624.6217 1671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1624.6217 applied to Towson, um, Elon. 1627.0184 1672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1627.0184 (pause 0.91) 1627.9277 1673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1627.9277 Uh, she applied 1629.1960 1674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1629.1960 (pause 0.19) 1629.3825 1675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1629.3825 at- 1630.1985 1676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1630.1985 (pause 0.74) 1630.9434 1677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1630.9434 1631.0460 1678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1631.0460 (pause 0.38) 1631.4237 1679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1631.4237 Delaware State offered her a full scholarship 1633.7971 1680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1633.7971 (pause 1.21) 1635.0048 1681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1635.0048 because of her academics. 1636.1052 1682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1636.1052 (pause 0.73) 1636.8362 1683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1636.8362 Um, and she got a partial 1638.7480 1684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1638.7480 (pause 0.15) 1638.9018 1685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1638.9018 scholarship- 1639.5640 1686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1639.5640 (pause 0.41) 1639.9743 1687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1639.9743 academic scholarship for Penn State, 1641.6751 1688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1641.6751 (pause 0.59) 1642.2673 1689 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1642.2673 University 1642.7942 1690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1642.7942 (pause 0.14) 1642.9387 1691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1642.9387 main campus. 1643.6615 1692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1643.6615 (pause 0.81) 1644.4682 1693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1644.4682 So 1644.7759 1694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1644.7759 (pause 0.17) 1644.9438 1695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1644.9438 I wanted her to have the experience 1646.3753 1696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1646.3753 (pause 0.14) 1646.5152 1697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1646.5152 of 1646.8975 1698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1646.8975 (pause 1.75) 1648.6450 1699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1648.6450 knowing that 1649.2791 1700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1649.2791 (pause 0.59) 1649.8713 1701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1649.8713 our world is not just black 1651.4660 1702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1651.4660 (pause 1.17) 1652.6364 1703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1652.6364 or African American, 1653.7964 1704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1653.7964 (pause 0.35) 1654.1461 1705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1654.1461 whichever way you term- 1655.2418 1706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1655.2418 (pause 0.80) 1656.0392 1707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1656.0392 I wanted her to be able to get along with all people 1658.6831 1708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1658.6831 (pause 0.33) 1659.0141 1709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1659.0141 cause that's the way I raised her cause that's the way I was raised. 1661.2465 1710 DCB_int_01 1661.2465 Mm-hm. 1661.6265 1711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1662.1324 Um, so 1663.1163 1712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1663.1163 (pause 0.31) 1663.4241 1713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1663.4241 I- 1663.8484 1714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1663.8484 (pause 1.75) 1665.5958 1715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1665.5958 Some days I laugh now cause I think I'm still paying, but 1668.2956 1716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1668.2956 (pause 0.72) 1669.0184 1717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1669.0184 I wanted to make sure she got 1670.1795 1718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1670.1795 (pause 0.39) 1670.5665 1719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1670.5665 a good opportunity 1671.5084 1720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1671.5084 (pause 0.10) 1671.6110 1721 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1671.6110 to go to the- one of the best schools, 1673.2512 1722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1673.2512 (pause 0.39) 1673.6428 1723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1673.6428 so she went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1674.6034 1724 DCB_int_01 1674.9018 Mm. 1675.2935 1725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1675.4567 1675.5267 1726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1675.5267 (pause 0.12) 1675.6432 1727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1675.6432 And 1676.0536 1728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1676.0536 (pause 0.70) 1676.7577 1729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1676.7577 she 1677.1400 1730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1677.1400 (pause 0.55) 1677.6902 1731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1677.6902 graduated- She lived on campus 1679.2185 1732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1679.2185 (pause 0.28) 1679.4936 1733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1679.4936 all four years. 1680.2583 1734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1680.2583 (pause 0.50) 1680.7573 1735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1680.7573 She graduated on time. 1682.0116 1736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1682.0116 (pause 0.78) 1682.7950 1737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1682.7950 She graduated with 1684.1798 1738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1684.1798 (pause 0.14) 1684.3186 1739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1684.3186 a- 1684.7989 1740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1684.7989 (pause 0.14) 1684.9341 1741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1684.9341 I believe 1685.6009 1742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1685.6009 (pause 0.46) 1686.0578 1743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1686.0578 a three point 1686.7293 1744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1686.7293 (pause 0.12) 1686.8505 1745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1686.8505 two 1687.1909 1746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1687.1909 (pause 0.22) 1687.4101 1747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1687.4101 average, which 1688.3846 1748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1688.3846 (pause 0.65) 1689.0374 1749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1689.0374 uh, coming from Prince George's County School system, 1691.3940 1750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1691.3940 (pause 0.20) 1691.5962 1751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1691.5962 that was major. 1692.1698 1752 DCB_int_01 1692.3703 Mm-hm. 1692.7946 1753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1693.2795 It was traumatic initially the first year for her 1695.6296 1754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1695.6296 (pause 0.10) 1695.7311 1755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1695.7311 because 1696.1321 1756 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1696.1321 (pause 0.90) 1697.0273 1757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1697.0273 when you're 1697.5263 1758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1697.5263 (pause 0.07) 1697.6009 1759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1697.6009 n- 1697.6988 1760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1697.6988 (pause 0.28) 1697.9832 1761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1697.9832 graduated seventh of your class, you feel as though you've achieved something, you've arrived. 1701.5270 1762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1701.5270 (pause 0.36) 1701.8907 1763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1701.8907 When she got a chance to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and they 1703.7454 1764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1703.7454 (pause 0.34) 1704.0858 1765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1704.0858 grouped them all together- all the freshmans 1705.8484 1766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1705.8484 (pause 0.38) 1706.2261 1767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1706.2261 in an auditorium, and she got to work with kids or be around kids that- 1709.8247 1768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1709.8247 (pause 1.56) 1711.3821 1769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1711.3821 from all different backgrounds, 1712.8136 1770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1712.8136 (pause 0.14) 1712.9535 1771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1712.9535 she realized that she really didn't know much of anything. 1716.3933 1772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1716.3933 (pause 0.41) 1716.7992 1773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1716.7992 And she wasn't really fully prepared 1718.3986 1774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1718.3986 (pause 1.08) 1719.4757 1775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1719.4757 um, academically, 1720.4725 1776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1720.4725 (pause 0.91) 1721.3817 1777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1721.3817 and that was 1722.0159 1778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1722.0159 (pause 0.30) 1722.3143 1779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1722.3143 heartening. 1722.7713 1780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1722.7713 (pause 0.68) 1723.4520 1781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1723.4520 But 1723.7785 1782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1723.7785 (pause 0.20) 1723.9790 1783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1723.9790 I didn't let her give up. 1724.7856 1784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1724.7856 (pause 0.96) 1725.7497 1785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1725.7497 I always instilled in her, You can do this. You put your mind to it, you can do this. 1728.8272 1786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1728.8272 (pause 0.08) 1728.9112 1787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1728.9112 I got your back. 1729.5779 1788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1729.5779 (pause 1.23) 1730.8043 1789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1730.8043 You know, your dad and I got- We're- We're there for you. 1732.8082 1790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1732.8082 (pause 0.51) 1733.3164 1791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1733.3164 You know you got your grandma and your granddad. Everybody is pulling for you to do this. 1736.7343 1792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1736.7343 (pause 0.53) 1737.2613 1793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1737.2613 It's gonna be hard. It's gonna be challenging, cause now she's 1739.5589 1794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1739.5589 (pause 0.58) 1740.1418 1795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1740.1418 really 1740.7946 1796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1740.7946 (pause 1.51) 1742.3054 1797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1742.3054 fighting for survival. 1743.5037 1798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1743.5037 (pause 1.48) 1744.9807 1799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1744.9807 But I wanted her to understand the independence, and she needed to know that 1747.8624 1800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1747.8624 (pause 0.28) 1748.1468 1801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1748.1468 she couldn't do that going to school here with me. 1749.6343 1802 DCB_int_01 1750.7243 Mm. 1750.8875 1803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1750.8688 Cause I n- I need you to know when I- 1752.5474 1804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1752.8552 You have forty dollars? I need you to know how to make that forty dollars last until next month. 1756.4550 1805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1756.4550 (pause 1.05) 1757.5030 1806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1757.5030 Or 1758.0439 1807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1758.0439 (pause 0.59) 1758.6360 1808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1758.6360 if 1758.9578 1809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1758.9578 (pause 0.15) 1759.1117 1810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1759.1117 I send you 1759.8064 1811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1759.8064 (pause 0.15) 1759.9603 1812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1759.9603 a care package, 1760.7903 1813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1760.7903 (pause 0.12) 1760.9115 1814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1760.9115 I need you to understand that 1762.2778 1815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1762.2778 (pause 0.35) 1762.6263 1816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1762.6263 you have a meal plan, yes, but that's not for you to buy clothes and things. That's for you to eat. 1765.9323 1817 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1765.9323 (pause 0.43) 1766.3660 1818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1766.3660 So you need to understand how to budget. You need to un- 1768.5606 1819 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1768.5606 (pause 0.13) 1768.6916 1820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1768.6916 You know, it was just life lessons. 1769.9879 1821 DCB_int_01 1770.0812 Mm-hm. 1770.4958 1822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1770.3842 So I think I gave her that- I afforded her that opportunity, 1773.0328 1823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1773.4338 and I am very proud of her because she succeeded, 1775.2645 1824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1775.2645 (pause 0.42) 1775.6801 1825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1775.6801 and she made it. 1776.3796 1826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1776.3796 (pause 0.58) 1776.9624 1827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1776.9624 She graduated on time. 1778.3613 1828 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1778.3613 (pause 0.50) 1778.8649 1829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1778.8649 Um, 1779.3172 1830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1779.3172 (pause 0.22) 1779.5364 1831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1779.5364 she was the 1780.3897 1832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1780.3897 (pause 0.69) 1781.0786 1833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1781.0786 think 1781.1952 1834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1781.1952 (pause 0.28) 1781.4796 1835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1781.4796 second or third only African American from the School 1784.0769 1836 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1784.0769 (pause 0.52) 1784.5991 1837 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1784.5991 of Art 1785.0234 1838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1785.0234 (pause 1.04) 1786.0586 1839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1786.0586 Cause she graduated with um, a art degree and a concentration in photography 1789.5453 1840 DCB_int_01 1789.9183 Mm-hm. 1790.2681 1841 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1790.6318 with a minor in computer graphics. 1792.3570 1842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1792.3570 (pause 2.00) 1794.3609 1843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1794.3609 So I was very proud of her, 1795.2236 1844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1795.2236 (pause 0.33) 1795.5546 1845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1795.5546 always have been. 1796.2541 1846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1796.2541 (pause 0.59) 1796.8463 1847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1796.8463 I mean she's- she's- 1797.6856 1848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1797.6856 (pause 0.37) 1798.0586 1849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1798.0586 I've been really blessed. She's never given me any trouble. 1800.5987 1850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1800.5987 (pause 0.38) 1800.9811 1851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1800.9811 I mean absolutely- 1802.0023 1852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1802.0023 (pause 0.68) 1802.6831 1853 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1802.6831 You know, there have been little hiccups, but those are just life lessons but 1805.3817 1854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1805.3817 (pause 0.53) 1805.9086 1855 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1805.9086 nothing major. 1806.8505 1856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1806.8505 (pause 0.43) 1807.2795 1857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1807.2795 You know, no 1807.7878 1858 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1807.7878 (pause 0.41) 1808.2028 1859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1808.2028 n- 1808.3193 1860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1808.3193 (pause 0.42) 1808.7390 1861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1808.7390 She might have cut class. If she did, I don't know anything about it. 1811.5620 1862 DCB_int_01 1811.5484 [] 1813.1163 1863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1812.3563 [] 1812.5847 1864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1812.5847 (pause 0.23) 1812.8132 1865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1812.8132 [She didn't] share it with me. 1813.7738 1866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1814.1049 I- You know, I've never had to get the phone call three o'clock in the morning, Ma come get me cause I'm in jail, or 1818.6733 1867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1818.6733 (pause 0.54) 1819.2096 1868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1819.2096 um- no drug use or anything like that, so I really 1822.1659 1869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1822.1659 (pause 0.35) 1822.5144 1870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1822.5144 truly have been blessed. 1823.6522 1871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1823.6522 (pause 0.88) 1824.5335 1872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1824.5335 Truly. 1824.9671 1873 DCB_int_01 1826.1655 So 1826.6784 1874 DCB_int_01 1826.6784 (pause 0.91) 1827.5923 1875 DCB_int_01 1827.5923 once you moved out of- I'm kind of going 1829.7314 1876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1830.2630 [Back?] 1830.5754 1877 DCB_int_01 1830.3190 [back] 1830.5614 1878 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1830.7899 [Okay.] 1831.0650 1879 DCB_int_01 1830.8692 [a little] bit. 1831.3635 1880 DCB_int_01 1831.8577 Once you moved 1832.4779 1881 DCB_int_01 1832.4779 (pause 0.08) 1832.5618 1882 DCB_int_01 1832.5618 out of 1833.6996 1883 DCB_int_01 1833.6996 (pause 0.35) 1834.0481 1884 DCB_int_01 1834.0481 DC- 1834.4585 1885 DCB_int_01 1834.4585 (pause 0.13) 1834.5890 1886 DCB_int_01 1834.5890 I know we were just 1835.4004 1887 DCB_int_01 1835.4004 (pause 0.09) 1835.4936 1888 DCB_int_01 1835.4936 eating dinner and you were talking about 1836.8552 1889 DCB_int_01 1836.8552 (pause 0.55) 1837.4101 1890 DCB_int_01 1837.4101 there's no need for you to go into DC. 1838.9034 1891 DCB_int_01 1838.9034 (pause 0.37) 1839.2752 1892 DCB_int_01 1839.2752 So how often do you go into the city proper now? 1841.7454 1893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1842.9065 Wow. 1843.2842 1894 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1843.2842 (pause 0.23) 1843.5127 1895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1843.5127 Um, 1844.0815 1896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1844.0815 (pause 0.11) 1844.1935 1897 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1844.1935 thanks to my sister probably on- 1845.9840 1898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1845.9840 (pause 0.12) 1846.1041 1899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1846.1041 during the summer, more 1847.1346 1900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1847.1346 (pause 0.14) 1847.2791 1901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1847.2791 on the weekends 1847.9413 1902 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1847.9413 (pause 0.26) 1848.2024 1903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1848.2024 because now that my mom is not living in DC any longer, 1850.7530 1904 DCB_int_01 1850.8649 Mm-hm. 1851.2146 1905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1851.4618 and we just moved her here 1852.5575 1906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1852.5575 (pause 0.70) 1853.2605 1907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1853.2605 um, 1853.6568 1908 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1853.6568 (pause 0.08) 1853.7408 1909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1853.7408 in Dec- 1854.2583 1910 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1854.2583 (pause 0.20) 1854.4589 1911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1854.4589 December. 1855.0184 1912 DCB_int_01 1855.3681 Mm-hm. 1855.6619 1913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1855.9230 So 1856.4779 1914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1856.4779 (pause 2.79) 1859.2651 1915 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1859.2651 maybe 1860.5335 1916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1860.5335 (pause 0.46) 1860.9904 1917 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1860.9904 um, 1861.7132 1918 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1861.7132 (pause 2.29) 1864.0027 1919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1864.0027 three- 1864.3524 1920 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1864.3524 (pause 0.64) 1864.9947 1921 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1864.9947 maybe four times a month. 1866.4122 1922 DCB_int_01 1867.1303 Oh that's still pretty frequent. 1868.5636 1923 DCB_int_01 1868.5636 (pause 0.26) 1868.8229 1924 DCB_int_01 1868.8229 I thought you were gonna say [like], a year. 1870.2125 1925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1869.4151 [Well], 1869.8768 1926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1870.3466 [no], I kind of just 1871.4284 1927 DCB_int_01 1870.3559 [] 1870.6030 1928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1871.8387 drive through it. 1872.6407 1929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1872.6407 (pause 0.10) 1872.7433 1930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1872.7433 1873.0883 1931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1873.0883 (pause 0.53) 1873.6199 1932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1873.6199 1874.2960 1933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1874.2960 (pause 0.25) 1874.5432 1934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1874.5432 I h- 1874.8229 1935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1874.8229 (pause 0.27) 1875.0934 1936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1875.0934 You know, I go back- Like, s- You know, we go over and check on the house or we take my mom back to the house, 1878.9858 1937 DCB_int_01 1879.3075 Mm-hm. 1879.5546 1938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1879.5220 especially since the weather's been really really nice. 1881.3125 1939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1882.0493 But I really don't- 1883.2651 1940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1883.2651 (pause 1.75) 1885.0137 1941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1885.0137 When I- When I- 1885.8018 1942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1885.8018 (pause 0.15) 1885.9510 1943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1885.9510 My husband, 1886.5245 1944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1886.5245 (pause 0.57) 1887.0981 1945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1887.0981 when he and I- Cause he's from DC as well, 1888.8500 1946 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1888.8500 (pause 0.40) 1889.2512 1947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1889.2512 my current husband, 1890.0485 1948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1890.0485 (pause 0.78) 1890.8272 1949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1890.8272 so when we started dating, 1892.4872 1950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1892.4872 (pause 0.30) 1892.7856 1951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1892.7856 um, 1893.4245 1952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1893.4245 (pause 0.45) 1893.8721 1953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1893.8721 we would go in to the city, 1895.5636 1954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1895.5636 (pause 0.44) 1896.0019 1955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1896.0019 and we would go to concerts, and we would go to the museums. 1898.9442 1956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1898.9442 (pause 0.78) 1899.7275 1957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1899.7275 Um, 1900.2766 1958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1900.2766 (pause 0.40) 1900.6730 1959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1900.6730 we would go just walk on the mall 1902.3050 1960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1902.3050 (pause 1.09) 1903.3961 1961 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1903.3961 or he would take me down Georgetown, and we'd just go /walkinging/. 1905.9793 1962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1905.9793 (pause 0.13) 1906.1099 1963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1906.1099 You know, just- 1906.6135 1964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1906.6135 (pause 1.10) 1907.7175 1965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1907.7175 just to kind of hang out. 1908.9391 1966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1908.9391 (pause 0.11) 1909.0510 1967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1909.0510 Um, 1909.4707 1968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1909.4707 (pause 0.96) 1910.4266 1969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1910.4266 I've- 1910.6504 1970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1910.6504 (pause 0.77) 1911.4198 1971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1911.4198 I've experienced 1912.1181 1972 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1912.1181 (pause 0.07) 1912.1927 1973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1912.1927 U Street since it's been revitalized. I've 1914.3516 1974 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1914.3516 (pause 0.21) 1914.5614 1975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1914.5614 done H Street. 1915.4847 1976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1915.4847 (pause 0.86) 1916.3473 1977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1916.3473 Now is that something I've done by myself? No. 1918.1192 1978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1918.1192 (pause 0.40) 1918.5237 1979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1918.5237 1918.9387 1980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1918.9387 (pause 0.56) 1919.5030 1981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1919.5030 I haven't. 1919.9739 1982 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1919.9739 (pause 0.51) 1920.4868 1983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1920.4868 I can admit 1920.9375 1984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1920.9375 (pause 0.10) 1921.0417 1985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1921.0417 that. 1921.3588 1986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1921.3588 (pause 0.52) 1921.8810 1987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1921.8810 It's a lot of changes. There's a lot of- 1923.1633 1988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1923.1633 (pause 0.30) 1923.4618 1989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1923.4618 You know, I ride through the neighborhoods now that I grew up in or 1926.8039 1990 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1926.8039 (pause 0.46) 1927.2655 1991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1927.2655 places I've traveled 1928.3613 1992 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1928.3613 (pause 0.14) 1928.5012 1993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1928.5012 in growing up 1929.2892 1994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1929.2892 (pause 0.26) 1929.5504 1995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1929.5504 when I lived there, 1930.4969 1996 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1930.4969 (pause 0.41) 1930.9108 1997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1930.9108 and I'm 1931.3258 1998 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1931.3258 (pause 0.10) 1931.4284 1999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1931.4284 amazed at the changes. 1932.7992 2000 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1932.7992 (pause 0.13) 1932.9298 2001 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1932.9298 I'm amazed at h- 1933.8064 2002 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1933.8064 (pause 0.56) 1934.3660 2003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1934.3660 how- 1934.9115 2004 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1934.9115 (pause 1.98) 1936.8875 2005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1936.8875 1937.2558 2006 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1937.2558 (pause 0.21) 1937.4610 2007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1937.4610 When I grew up it was 1938.5801 2008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1938.5801 (pause 0.72) 1939.3028 2009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1939.3028 all African American, all black. 1941.1307 2010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1941.1307 (pause 1.34) 1942.4736 2011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1942.4736 Now you walk down any street 1944.4589 2012 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1944.4589 (pause 0.14) 1944.5941 2013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1944.5941 that 1944.8132 2014 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1944.8132 (pause 0.44) 1945.2562 2015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1945.2562 was like that and it's- 1946.3800 2016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1946.3800 (pause 0.27) 1946.6458 2017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1946.6458 it's not that way anymore. 1947.7369 2018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1947.7369 (pause 0.68) 1948.4130 2019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1948.4130 You know, it's not that way anymore at all. 1949.9599 2020 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1949.9599 (pause 0.41) 1950.3749 2021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1950.3749 And that's 1950.9531 2022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1950.9531 (pause 0.14) 1951.0883 2023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1951.0883 especially U Street, 1952.4359 2024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1952.4359 (pause 0.16) 1952.5991 2025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1952.5991 um, 1952.9675 2026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1952.9675 (pause 0.09) 1953.0607 2027 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1953.0607 H Street, 1953.8488 2028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1953.8488 (pause 0.81) 1954.6590 2029 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1954.6590 um, 1954.8921 2030 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1954.8921 (pause 0.22) 1955.1113 2031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1955.1113 heck, Minnesota Avenue. 1956.4215 2032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1956.4215 (pause 0.60) 1957.0231 2033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1957.0231 And I'm thinking, okay, you see 1958.6224 2034 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1958.6224 (pause 1.53) 1960.1519 2035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1960.1519 Caucasians with babies, 1961.5403 2036 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1961.5403 (pause 0.29) 1961.8294 2037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1961.8294 strollers and dogs, 1963.0277 2038 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1963.0277 (pause 0.41) 1963.4334 2039 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1963.4334 and I'm thinking 1964.1142 2040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1964.1142 (pause 0.57) 1964.6877 2041 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1964.6877 where- What happened? 1965.8208 2042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1965.8208 (pause 0.99) 1966.8128 2043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1966.8128 You know, but then 1967.6149 2044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1967.6149 (pause 0.21) 1967.8294 2045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1967.8294 um, 1968.1744 2046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1968.1744 (pause 0.27) 1968.4449 2047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1968.4449 I get teased by my family because they call me the suburbanite 1970.9815 2048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1970.9815 (pause 0.09) 1971.0701 2049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1971.0701 cause I hang out in the suburbs. 1972.3524 2050 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1972.3524 (pause 0.51) 1972.8641 2051 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1972.8641 I live in Clinton. 1973.6382 2052 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1973.6382 (pause 0.68) 1974.3143 2053 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1974.3143 That's usually where you'll find me, in Clinton, 1976.2960 2054 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1976.2960 (pause 0.52) 1976.8136 2055 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1976.8136 home. 1977.1167 2056 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1977.1167 (pause 0.59) 1977.7042 2057 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1977.7042 If I'm not in Fort Washington at my sister's, I'm in Clinton at home. 1980.1371 2058 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1980.1371 (pause 1.04) 1981.1816 2059 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1981.1816 Um, 1981.8158 2060 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1981.8158 (pause 1.56) 1983.3778 2061 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1983.3778 I 1983.7975 2062 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1983.7975 (pause 0.72) 1984.5156 2063 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1984.5156 don't- 1985.1346 2064 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1985.1346 (pause 2.41) 1987.5453 2065 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1987.5453 I feel safe, and I feel 1988.9628 2066 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1988.9628 (pause 0.13) 1989.0934 2067 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1989.0934 secure f- in my mom's neighborhood 1990.7616 2068 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1990.7616 (pause 0.63) 1991.3910 2069 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1991.3910 because 1991.7641 2070 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1991.7641 (pause 0.59) 1992.3516 2071 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1992.3516 a lot of the 1993.0510 2072 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1993.0510 (pause 0.26) 1993.3122 2073 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1993.3122 elders 1993.8484 2074 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1993.8484 (pause 0.12) 1993.9696 2075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1993.9696 still live there, 1995.0887 2076 DCB_int_01 1995.4198 Mm. 1995.7415 2077 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1996.0948 so I don't have a problem with traveling in those areas. 1998.4402 2078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1998.4402 (pause 0.76) 1999.2003 2079 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1999.2003 Uh, 1999.7785 2080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1999.7785 (pause 0.10) 1999.8810 2081 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 1999.8810 venturing further like, 2001.9187 2082 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2001.9187 (pause 0.31) 2002.2311 2083 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2002.2311 Northwest or 2003.6289 2084 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2003.6289 (pause 1.25) 2004.8832 2085 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2004.8832 just certain areas, 2005.7038 2086 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2005.7038 (pause 0.66) 2006.3660 2087 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2006.3660 I'm not uncomfortable, 2007.5737 2088 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2007.5737 (pause 0.62) 2008.1973 2089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2008.1973 but I don't do it frequently. 2009.3378 2090 DCB_int_01 2009.6102 Hm. 2009.8014 2091 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2009.9040 I just don't. 2010.4169 2092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2010.4169 (pause 0.34) 2010.7526 2093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2010.7526 I don't have a reason to. 2011.6432 2094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2011.6432 (pause 1.09) 2012.7297 2095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2012.7297 Um, 2013.0841 2096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2013.0841 (pause 0.61) 2013.6949 2097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2013.6949 m- but I- 2014.5237 2098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2014.5237 (pause 0.65) 2015.1766 2099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2015.1766 Over the years- I would say the last three years- 2017.4194 2100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2017.4194 (pause 0.30) 2017.7225 2101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2017.7225 I've tried to get out more and more. Now I- 2019.3545 2102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2019.3545 (pause 0.13) 2019.4804 2103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2019.4804 I love going to Eastern Market. 2020.6555 2104 DCB_int_01 2021.0180 Mm-hm. 2021.3957 2105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2021.7081 I love doing the walk and going through there. 2023.2376 2106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2023.2376 (pause 0.34) 2023.5733 2107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2023.5733 I love still going down to the wharf. 2025.0934 2108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2025.0934 (pause 0.27) 2025.3592 2109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2025.3592 I do enjoy that. 2026.2731 2110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2026.2731 (pause 0.45) 2026.7196 2111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2026.7196 I still love certain parts of Hain's Point, 2028.7946 2112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2028.7946 (pause 0.54) 2029.3355 2113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2029.3355 just to ride through and kind of just- 2030.9302 2114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2030.9302 (pause 0.16) 2031.0934 2115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2031.0934 It brings back old memories or 2032.9994 2116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2032.9994 (pause 0.69) 2033.6941 2117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2033.6941 um, 2034.3936 2118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2034.3936 (pause 0.77) 2035.1629 2119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2035.1629 happier times maybe. 2036.5385 2120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2036.5385 (pause 0.08) 2036.6224 2121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2036.6224 You know, growing up. 2037.3125 2122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2037.3125 (pause 1.74) 2039.0553 2123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2039.0553 Uh, few 2039.7035 2124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2039.7035 (pause 0.09) 2039.7967 2125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2039.7967 places 2040.4635 2126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2040.4635 (pause 0.99) 2041.4567 2127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2041.4567 I 2041.5500 2128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2041.5500 (pause 0.14) 2041.6945 2129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2041.6945 think um, 2042.3753 2130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2042.3753 (pause 0.13) 2042.5059 2131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2042.5059 Fourteenth Street area, 2043.8979 2132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2043.8979 (pause 1.17) 2045.0693 2133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2045.0693 um like, 2045.6055 2134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2045.6055 (pause 0.12) 2045.7268 2135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2045.7268 Busboys and Poets and things like that. There's certain restaurants- 2048.1235 2136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2048.1235 (pause 0.35) 2048.4779 2137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2048.4779 I still do- We do restaurants. Now I- I definitely do those, 2051.2885 2138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2051.2885 (pause 0.37) 2051.6568 2139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2051.6568 but just 2052.0345 2140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2052.0345 (pause 0.33) 2052.3656 2141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2052.3656 out walking 2053.3168 2142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2053.3168 (pause 0.47) 2053.7878 2143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2053.7878 and just 2054.3380 2144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2054.3380 (pause 0.92) 2055.2613 2145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2055.2613 you know, 2055.5690 2146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2055.5690 (pause 0.38) 2055.9455 2147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2055.9455 in the elements, 2056.9154 2148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2056.9154 (pause 0.25) 2057.1672 2149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2057.1672 I don't do that a- 2057.7781 2150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2057.7781 (pause 0.09) 2057.8667 2151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2057.8667 as much. 2058.4169 2152 DCB_int_01 2059.2376 So I wanna ask you 2060.1468 2153 DCB_int_01 2060.1468 (pause 0.16) 2060.3054 2154 DCB_int_01 2060.3054 three different questions, so I hopefully I remember them. 2062.1659 2155 DCB_int_01 2062.1659 (pause 0.39) 2062.5517 2156 DCB_int_01 2062.5517 The first one- You talked about the revitalization of H Street and U Street, 2066.0211 2157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2066.1515 Mm-hm. 2066.4313 2158 DCB_int_01 2066.9115 um, 2067.4897 2159 DCB_int_01 2067.4897 (pause 0.39) 2067.8814 2160 DCB_int_01 2067.8814 can you talk about it 2069.0134 2161 DCB_int_01 2069.0134 (pause 0.16) 2069.1766 2162 DCB_int_01 2069.1766 before- 2069.7827 2163 DCB_int_01 2069.7827 (pause 0.70) 2070.4868 2164 DCB_int_01 2070.4868 before it was revitalized? So talk about earlier memories you had of those two areas. 2074.8035 2165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2076.4822 Um, 2076.9858 2166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2076.9858 (pause 2.21) 2079.2006 2167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2079.2006 wow. 2079.5352 2168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2079.5352 (pause 1.55) 2081.0880 2169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2081.0880 They're brief. 2081.6801 2170 DCB_int_01 2082.2583 Mkay. 2082.6407 2171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2082.7806 Um, they're very brief, 2083.6939 2172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2083.6939 (pause 0.50) 2084.1935 2173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2084.1935 and they were brief because my dad was 2085.8581 2174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2085.8581 (pause 0.48) 2086.3372 2175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2086.3372 very strict. He didn't allow me to 2088.6407 2176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2088.6407 (pause 1.17) 2089.8064 2177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2089.8064 um- 2090.1328 2178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2090.1328 (pause 0.21) 2090.3473 2179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2090.3473 If I needed to go somewhere in the city, 2092.0586 2180 DCB_int_01 2092.2558 Mm-hm. 2092.5458 2181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2092.6030 he drove me. 2093.1859 2182 DCB_int_01 2093.6029 Mm-hm. 2093.9584 2183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2094.7106 Um, 2095.3495 2184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2095.3495 (pause 0.41) 2095.7645 2185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2095.7645 outside of 2096.3520 2186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2096.3520 (pause 0.25) 2096.6038 2187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2096.6038 me driving myself back and forth to college, 2098.5657 2188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2098.5657 (pause 0.52) 2099.0833 2189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2099.0833 because I s- 2099.4843 2190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2099.4843 (pause 0.23) 2099.7128 2191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2099.7128 You know, I stayed- I lived at home, 2100.8878 2192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2100.8878 (pause 1.30) 2102.1888 2193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2102.1888 I really didn't venture. 2103.5877 2194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2103.5877 (pause 0.16) 2103.7462 2195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2103.7462 I wasn't a partier. I didn't hang out, didn't go to the clubs. 2106.7200 2196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2106.7200 (pause 0.88) 2107.6013 2197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2107.6013 N- 2107.8904 2198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2107.8904 (pause 0.11) 2108.0023 2199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2108.0023 I didn't do any of those things. 2109.2146 2200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2109.2146 (pause 0.20) 2109.4151 2201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2109.4151 I just- 2109.6704 2202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2109.6704 (pause 0.10) 2109.7730 2203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2109.7730 I never did, that's just never was a part of me. 2111.5076 2204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2111.5076 (pause 0.49) 2112.0019 2205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2112.0019 So the memories that 2112.9718 2206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2112.9718 (pause 0.09) 2113.0604 2207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2113.0604 I have like, 2113.8158 2208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2113.8158 (pause 0.41) 2114.2214 2209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2114.2214 in the Spingarn area 2115.5783 2210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2115.5783 (pause 0.12) 2115.6949 2211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2115.6949 or the Benning Road area 2117.3817 2212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2117.3817 (pause 0.42) 2117.8014 2213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2117.8014 leading into H Street, 2119.2189 2214 DCB_int_01 2119.2888 Mm-hm. 2119.5919 2215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2119.8297 that was more so because I played sports. 2122.1705 2216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2122.1705 (pause 0.65) 2122.8175 2217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2122.8175 I played softball. 2123.7594 2218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2123.7594 (pause 0.87) 2124.6314 2219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2124.6314 So- and I worked- 2125.5033 2220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2125.5033 (pause 0.14) 2125.6386 2221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2125.6386 I worked in /RD-WORK-6/, and I played ball for /RD-WORK-6/. 2128.7949 2222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2128.7949 (pause 0.90) 2129.6995 2223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2129.6995 So 2130.1285 2224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2130.1285 (pause 0.20) 2130.3243 2225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2130.3243 that's really where I 2131.6859 2226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2131.6859 (pause 0.10) 2131.7826 2227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2131.7826 got 2132.0671 2228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2132.0671 (pause 0.48) 2132.5427 2229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2132.5427 my foundation as far as all my experiences 2135.3078 2230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2135.3078 (pause 0.37) 2135.6808 2231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2135.6808 as far as really DC goes 2137.4527 2232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2137.4527 (pause 0.48) 2137.9318 2233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2137.9318 um, because we got a chance to play all over the city. 2139.8612 2234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2139.8612 (pause 0.97) 2140.8275 2235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2140.8275 But that was as a team. I still never was- 2142.6274 2236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2142.6274 (pause 0.21) 2142.8326 2237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2142.8326 That wasn't alone. That was as a team. 2144.5046 2238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2144.5046 (pause 0.57) 2145.0743 2239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2145.0743 And of course, it was a little challenging cause my sister was our coach. 2147.8440 2240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2147.8440 (pause 0.80) 2148.6460 2241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2148.6460 Um (laughing), 2149.2149 2242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2149.2149 (pause 0.39) 2149.6008 2243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2149.6008 so I have very f- 2150.3235 2244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2150.3235 (pause 0.09) 2150.4168 2245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2150.4168 great memories. 2151.3214 2246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2151.3214 (pause 0.40) 2151.7177 2247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2151.7177 I have the memories 2152.6177 2248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2152.6177 (pause 0.13) 2152.7482 2249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2152.7482 of 2153.1866 2250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2153.1866 (pause 0.82) 2154.0026 2251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2154.0026 um, 2154.3336 2252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2154.3336 (pause 0.73) 2155.0610 2253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2155.0610 traveling 2155.6812 2254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2155.6812 (pause 0.16) 2155.8397 2255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2155.8397 down U Street 2156.8551 2256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2156.8551 (pause 0.77) 2157.6291 2257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2157.6291 when 2158.1561 2258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2158.1561 (pause 1.00) 2159.1539 2259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2159.1539 at 2159.2938 2260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2159.2938 (pause 0.15) 2159.4430 2261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2159.4430 that time, 2160.1145 2262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2160.1145 (pause 0.11) 2160.2217 2263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2160.2217 a lot of 2161.0331 2264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2161.0331 (pause 0.33) 2161.3595 2265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2161.3595 the buildings and things 2162.5240 2266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2162.5240 (pause 0.46) 2162.9810 2267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2162.9810 were boarded up 2163.8343 2268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2163.8343 (pause 1.20) 2165.0327 2269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2165.0327 um, from- 2165.7974 2270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2165.7974 (pause 0.42) 2166.2171 2271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2166.2171 from the sixties and seventies and all the riots and things like that. 2168.8225 2272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2168.8225 (pause 0.58) 2169.4007 2273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2169.4007 It wasn't- 2169.8716 2274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2169.8716 (pause 1.47) 2171.3404 2275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2171.3404 I won't say 2171.8440 2276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2171.8440 (pause 0.14) 2171.9886 2277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2171.9886 all, 2172.3663 2278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2172.3663 (pause 0.11) 2172.4735 2279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2172.4735 but I would say probably 2173.5926 2280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2173.5926 (pause 0.29) 2173.8817 2281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2173.8817 thirty percent 2174.4634 2282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2174.4634 (pause 1.08) 2175.5452 2283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2175.5452 was kind of boarded up. 2176.6503 2284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2176.6503 (pause 0.12) 2176.7669 2285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2176.7669 Um, 2177.3125 2286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2177.3125 (pause 1.42) 2178.7346 2287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2178.7346 you didn't have the people- 2179.8153 2288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2179.8153 (pause 0.15) 2179.9692 2289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2179.9692 Like, 2180.1743 2290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2180.1743 (pause 0.98) 2181.1582 2291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2181.1582 I didn't experience home- the homeless 2183.3777 2292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2183.3777 (pause 0.11) 2183.4896 2293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2183.4896 people that we have now. 2184.7253 2294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2184.7253 (pause 0.54) 2185.2615 2295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2185.2615 I don't remember 2186.3748 2296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2186.3748 (pause 1.26) 2187.6385 2297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2187.6385 homeless people back then. 2188.8975 2298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2188.8975 (pause 0.22) 2189.1213 2299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2189.1213 I- I really just don't. 2190.2404 2300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2190.2404 (pause 0.16) 2190.3989 2301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2190.3989 I don't. 2190.6087 2302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2190.6087 (pause 0.41) 2191.0237 2303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2191.0237 Because I remember when I was in high school I would catch a bus 2193.9742 2304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2193.9742 (pause 0.58) 2194.5571 2305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2194.5571 that would take me 2195.6202 2306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2195.6202 (pause 0.22) 2195.8394 2307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2195.8394 from 2196.3290 2308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2196.3290 (pause 0.11) 2196.4409 2309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2196.4409 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School 2197.4481 2310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2197.4481 (pause 0.62) 2198.0671 2311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2198.0671 and bring me all the way over to Benning Road, 2200.3845 2312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2200.3845 (pause 0.73) 2201.1119 2313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2201.1119 and then I would transfer at Eighth and H 2203.3257 2314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2203.3257 (pause 0.69) 2204.0158 2315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2204.0158 to catch the Benning Heights bus 2205.3074 2316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2205.3074 (pause 0.27) 2205.5732 2317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2205.5732 that used to bring me right down the street from my door, 2207.5596 2318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2207.5596 (pause 0.23) 2207.7927 2319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2207.7927 my house. 2208.3430 2320 DCB_int_01 2208.5015 Mm-hm. 2208.8148 2321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2209.2196 Um, 2209.5926 2322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2209.5926 (pause 1.76) 2211.3540 2323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2211.3540 and 2211.8017 2324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2211.8017 (pause 0.07) 2211.8716 2325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2211.8716 people weren't- 2212.5711 2326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2212.5711 (pause 0.31) 2212.8788 2327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2212.8788 You weren't afraid to ride. I would- 2214.2031 2328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2214.2031 (pause 0.35) 2214.5481 2329 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2214.5481 I- 2214.7346 2330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2214.7346 (pause 0.14) 2214.8792 2331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2214.8792 If- You know, when I studied dance, I was coming from Howard University cause that's where I studie- 2218.9534 2332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2218.9534 (pause 0.10) 2219.0560 2333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2219.0560 where we practiced, 2219.8953 2334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2219.8953 (pause 0.60) 2220.4968 2335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2220.4968 up near Banneker, 2221.3408 2336 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2221.3408 (pause 0.30) 2221.6381 2337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2221.6381 and I'd get on a bus. 2222.8831 2338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2222.8831 (pause 0.62) 2223.4991 2339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2223.4991 There was no s- 2224.1332 2340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2224.1332 (pause 0.64) 2224.7709 2341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2224.7709 subway hadn't started just yet. 2226.2210 2342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2226.2210 (pause 0.43) 2226.6500 2343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2226.6500 The early part of my high school, I think it around 2228.6318 2344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2228.6318 (pause 0.20) 2228.8276 2345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2228.8276 eleventh grade, I think is when we got the- 2230.3792 2346 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2230.3792 (pause 0.13) 2230.5098 2347 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2230.5098 the- the subway system. 2231.6149 2348 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2231.6149 (pause 0.85) 2232.4682 2349 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2232.4682 But you didn't have any fear. 2233.4614 2350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2233.4614 (pause 0.13) 2233.5873 2351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2233.5873 You- 2233.8904 2352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2233.8904 (pause 0.15) 2234.0396 2353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2234.0396 you just got on the bus, and you went where you were going. 2236.2265 2354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2236.2265 (pause 0.29) 2236.5191 2355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2236.5191 People didn't bother you. 2237.6102 2356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2237.6102 (pause 0.61) 2238.2164 2357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2238.2164 Go get it. (whispering to baby) 2238.5381 2358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2238.5381 (pause 0.47) 2239.0044 2359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2239.0044 Go get it. (whispering to baby) 2239.2935 2360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2239.2935 (pause 1.04) 2240.3380 2361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2240.3380 Go get it. (whispering to baby) 2240.5851 2362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2240.5851 (pause 0.25) 2240.8323 2363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2240.8323 There you go. (whispered to baby) 2241.2892 2364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2241.2892 (pause 1.31) 2242.6030 2365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2242.6030 Okay good job! (whispered) 2243.6615 2366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2243.6615 (pause 0.90) 2244.5568 2367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2244.5568 Sh. 2245.3914 2368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2245.3914 (pause 0.67) 2246.0629 2369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2246.0629 So 2246.3800 2370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2246.3800 (pause 0.46) 2246.8416 2371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2246.8416 [you didn't- you didn't have um-] 2248.9201 2372 DCB_int_01 2246.8416 [] 2248.9201 2373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2250.8878 You didn't worry- 2251.5080 2374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2251.5080 (pause 0.55) 2252.0536 2375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2252.0536 You didn't think about crime. 2253.3732 2376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2253.3732 (pause 0.21) 2253.5783 2377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2253.5783 You didn't think [about-] 2254.5948 2378 DCB_int_01 2254.2491 [Mm.] 2254.5719 2379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2255.3304 Um, and just to take you back 2256.4822 2380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2256.4822 (pause 0.09) 2256.5708 2381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2256.5708 cause I don't know if this will help but 2257.8670 2382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2257.8670 (pause 0.15) 2258.0209 2383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2258.0209 when I was in high school, 2258.9861 2384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2258.9861 (pause 0.94) 2259.9280 2385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2259.9280 the main- 2260.4491 2386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2260.4491 (pause 0.10) 2260.5471 2387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2260.5471 the biggest thing was- 2261.9786 2388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2261.9786 (pause 1.85) 2263.8251 2389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2263.8251 I think there was 2264.5245 2390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2264.5245 (pause 0.59) 2265.1120 2391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2265.1120 one young lady that was 2266.2253 2392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2266.2253 (pause 0.12) 2266.3466 2393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2266.3466 pregnant 2266.7056 2394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2266.7056 (pause 0.13) 2266.8362 2395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2266.8362 that was in high school. 2267.7361 2396 DCB_int_01 2268.2071 Mm. 2268.4775 2397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2268.4868 Just one. 2268.9345 2398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2268.9345 (pause 0.95) 2269.8810 2399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2269.8810 Um, there wa- 2270.6970 2400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2270.6970 (pause 0.16) 2270.8602 2401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2270.8602 You might have gotten caught 2272.5062 2402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2272.5062 (pause 0.43) 2272.9341 2403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2272.9341 on the bleachers smoking 2274.2164 2404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2274.2164 (pause 0.97) 2275.1816 2405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2275.1816 a cigarette. 2275.9603 2406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2275.9603 (pause 0.94) 2276.9022 2407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2276.9022 Marijuana was- 2277.9767 2408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2277.9767 (pause 0.92) 2278.9014 2409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2278.9014 wasn't a problem. 2279.6941 2410 DCB_int_01 2280.1324 Mm-hm. 2280.5381 2411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2280.5381 It wasn't a everyday occurrence. 2282.0582 2412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2282.9628 So 2283.6763 2413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2283.6763 (pause 0.18) 2283.8570 2414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2283.8570 those things that the kids going through [now-] 2286.5941 2415 DCB_int_01 2286.3379 [Mm.] Yeah. 2286.9647 2416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2286.9904 those challenges- 2288.0722 2417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2288.0722 (pause 0.65) 2288.7250 2418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2288.7250 we didn't have those challenges. 2290.1286 2419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2290.1286 (pause 0.98) 2291.1113 2420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2291.1113 You know, the biggest thing was what team were we playing, who were we trying to beat in football on- 2295.1633 2421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2295.1633 (pause 0.15) 2295.3172 2422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2295.3172 on Friday evening's 2296.2918 2423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2296.2918 (pause 0.24) 2296.5331 2424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2296.5331 game. 2296.9481 2425 DCB_int_01 2297.2232 Right. 2297.5356 2426 DCB_int_01 2297.5356 (pause 0.18) 2297.7128 2427 DCB_int_01 2297.7128 [Right.] 2297.9926 2428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2297.8014 [You got] a chance to go to a night game every now and then. You didn't have them that often. Most of your games were in the 2302.3384 2429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2302.5471 afternoon. 2303.0973 2430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2303.0973 (pause 0.70) 2303.8014 2431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2303.8014 Um, 2304.2910 2432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2304.2910 (pause 0.19) 2304.4775 2433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2304.4775 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School played 2305.8391 2434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2305.8391 (pause 0.11) 2305.9463 2435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2305.9463 Roosevelt, 2306.5991 2436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2306.5991 (pause 0.19) 2306.7903 2437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2306.7903 I believe it was, 2307.5270 2438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2307.5270 (pause 0.28) 2307.8068 2439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2307.8068 at the stadium 2308.7382 2440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2308.7382 (pause 0.44) 2309.1812 2441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2309.1812 while- when I was in high school. 2310.5335 2442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2310.5335 (pause 0.51) 2311.0417 2443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2311.0417 So cheering at the stadium, that was a big deal. 2312.8276 2444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2312.8276 (pause 0.21) 2313.0374 2445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2313.0374 So you didn't have all those- 2314.2824 2446 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2314.2824 (pause 0.18) 2314.4585 2447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2314.4585 all of the- 2315.0693 2448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2315.0693 (pause 2.52) 2317.5873 2449 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2317.5873 That I'm aware of, 2318.5385 2450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2318.5385 (pause 0.14) 2318.6737 2451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2318.6737 all of the crime. 2319.5457 2452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2319.5457 (pause 1.06) 2320.6077 2453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2320.6077 You know, 2320.9434 2454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2320.9434 (pause 0.10) 2321.0413 2455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2321.0413 the fear. 2321.5729 2456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2321.5729 (pause 0.38) 2321.9553 2457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2321.9553 You didn't have all that. 2323.0231 2458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2323.0231 (pause 1.09) 2324.1095 2459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2324.1095 You- you- you- you just- you just didn't have it. 2325.9840 2460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2325.9840 (pause 0.98) 2326.9667 2461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2326.9667 So 2327.4423 2462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2327.4423 (pause 0.55) 2327.9972 2463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2327.9972 my memories 2328.7200 2464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2328.7200 (pause 0.11) 2328.8319 2465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2328.8319 of- 2329.2422 2466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2329.2422 (pause 1.40) 2330.6458 2467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2330.6458 And it sounds so strange, but I have to- I can be honest. 2332.7662 2468 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2332.7662 (pause 0.45) 2333.2139 2469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2333.2139 All my memories of H Street and all that area, 2335.4381 2470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2335.4381 (pause 1.26) 2336.7017 2471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2336.7017 it was just normal. 2337.5084 2472 DCB_int_01 2338.5247 Mm. 2338.9644 2473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2339.4743 It was nothing- 2340.6127 2474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2340.6127 (pause 1.67) 2342.2867 2475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2342.2867 I- I mean I know that there had to have been some crime going on cause you would hear certain things. 2345.8247 2476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2345.8247 (pause 0.51) 2346.3330 2477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2346.3330 But it's not like it is today. 2347.5453 2478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2347.5453 (pause 0.11) 2347.6526 2479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2347.6526 You didn't have killings. You didn't have- 2348.8975 2480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2348.8975 (pause 0.38) 2349.2799 2481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2349.2799 You know, you might have fights- street fights, 2351.1206 2482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2351.1206 (pause 0.57) 2351.6941 2483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2351.6941 but it wasn't anybody shooting anybody. 2353.3635 2484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2353.3635 (pause 0.26) 2353.6246 2485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2353.6246 [Um], 2353.9510 2486 DCB_int_01 2353.6246 [Right.] 2353.9510 2487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2354.2354 that just wasn't heard of. 2355.1960 2488 DCB_int_01 2355.5597 Right. 2355.8581 2489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2356.4025 You know the biggest thing for me is 2357.6055 2490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2357.6055 (pause 0.16) 2357.7641 2491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2357.7641 I got caught- 2358.3936 2492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2358.3936 (pause 0.34) 2358.7293 2493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2358.7293 In the 2359.2049 2494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2359.2049 (pause 0.41) 2359.6153 2495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2359.6153 tenth grade, I cut- 2360.4639 2496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2360.4639 (pause 1.79) 2362.2580 2497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2362.2580 I cut fourth 2363.1859 2498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2363.1859 (pause 0.13) 2363.3118 2499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2363.3118 period 2363.7921 2500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2363.7921 (pause 0.23) 2364.0252 2501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2364.0252 cause I wanted to go- No, I cut 2365.2236 2502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2365.2236 (pause 0.32) 2365.5453 2503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2365.5453 third period 2366.0769 2504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2366.0769 (pause 0.30) 2366.3753 2505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2366.3753 cause I wanted to go to lunch early, 2367.6669 2506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2367.6669 (pause 0.24) 2367.9094 2507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2367.9094 and you could leave campus in high school. 2369.4983 2508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2369.4983 (pause 0.77) 2370.2677 2509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2370.2677 That was a major thing for me cause I cut class. I thought I was doing something. 2373.1866 2510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2373.1866 (pause 0.12) 2373.3079 2511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2373.3079 2374.5809 2512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2374.5809 (pause 0.66) 2375.2418 2513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2375.2418 And that was- 2375.9366 2514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2375.9366 (pause 0.41) 2376.3469 2515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2376.3469 And to me, that was who- me being ob- 2378.1608 2516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2378.1608 (pause 0.07) 2378.2308 2517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2378.2308 You know, I was a rebel. 2379.0234 2518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2379.0234 (pause 0.44) 2379.4618 2519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2379.4618 I /caught/ class, 2380.0761 2520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2380.0761 (pause 0.07) 2380.1414 2521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2380.1414 and I got caught! 2380.8641 2522 DCB_int_01 2381.3491 [Oh. Mm-hm.] 2382.1092 2523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2381.3584 [] 2381.6988 2524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2382.2164 So 2382.7759 2525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2382.7759 (pause 0.26) 2383.0324 2526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2383.0324 you know, but 2383.8297 2527 DCB_int_01 2384.2681 2384.5292 2528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2384.6364 you didn't- 2385.1447 2529 DCB_int_01 2385.0328 [] 2386.5013 2530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2385.5783 [you just didn't] have- 2386.8921 2531 DCB_int_01 2387.1812 You didn't do [what] you see today? 2388.9065 2532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2387.8993 [You-] 2388.1511 2533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2388.9811 Oh my gosh, no. 2389.6479 2534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2389.6479 (pause 0.55) 2390.1981 2535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2390.1981 Not at all. 2391.0461 2536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2391.0461 (pause 0.44) 2391.4851 2537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2391.4851 I- The things that kids do nowadays, 2393.1905 2538 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2393.1905 (pause 0.11) 2393.3025 2539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2393.3025 you never would have thought- 2394.1278 2540 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2394.1278 (pause 0.49) 2394.6174 2541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2394.6174 My father was crazy. You 2395.7738 2542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2395.7738 (pause 0.17) 2395.9463 2543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2395.9463 2396.1375 2544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2396.1375 (pause 0.98) 2397.1167 2545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2397.1167 You would not live to see the next day. 2398.6077 2546 DCB_int_01 2398.8455 2399.2558 2547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2399.3444 He'd just- 2399.5729 2548 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2399.5729 (pause 0.27) 2399.8387 2549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2399.8387 But- but he- 2400.5661 2550 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2400.5661 (pause 0.20) 2400.7666 2551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2400.7666 I think what it is, 2401.7365 2552 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2401.7365 (pause 0.75) 2402.4872 2553 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2402.4872 they instilled 2403.4105 2554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2403.4105 (pause 0.24) 2403.6529 2555 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2403.6529 a certain level of fear, 2404.9994 2556 DCB_int_01 2405.5869 Mm. 2405.9879 2557 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2406.4682 and it wasn't 2407.1863 2558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2407.1863 (pause 0.17) 2407.3588 2559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2407.3588 that- 2407.6479 2560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2407.6479 (pause 1.32) 2408.9722 2561 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2408.9722 You know, the sta- 2409.6949 2562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2409.6949 (pause 0.15) 2409.8441 2563 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2409.8441 statement people make, Oh I brought you in this world, I'll take you out- It wasn't so much that, 2413.0324 2564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2413.0324 (pause 0.33) 2413.3635 2565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2413.3635 it was that you had a level of [respect] 2415.0001 2566 DCB_int_01 2414.7312 [/Unintelligible/] 2415.3767 2567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2415.1260 [for] your elders. 2416.0073 2568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2417.0973 You know? 2417.5123 2569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2417.5123 (pause 1.16) 2418.6733 2570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2418.6733 First of all, 2419.3308 2571 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2419.3308 (pause 0.33) 2419.6619 2572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2419.6619 I'm a representation of my parents. If I'm'a go out here and act a fool, 2422.5809 2573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2422.5809 (pause 1.14) 2423.7175 2574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2423.7175 I'm'a have to 2424.1837 2575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2424.1837 (pause 0.23) 2424.4169 2576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2424.4169 go 2424.6780 2577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2424.6780 (pause 0.14) 2424.8132 2578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2424.8132 back 2425.0184 2579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2425.0184 (pause 0.17) 2425.1909 2580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2425.1909 to them, 2425.6013 2581 DCB_int_01 2425.6013 [Mm-hm.] 2426.2062 2582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2425.8158 [and that?] 2426.5338 2583 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2426.6504 No. 2426.9535 2584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2426.9535 (pause 1.38) 2428.3326 2585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2428.3326 No, that- that wa- it wasn't worth- whatever- 2430.3143 2586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2430.3143 (pause 0.35) 2430.6687 2587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2430.6687 Whatever it could have been that I wanted to do- 2432.3846 2588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2432.3846 (pause 0.66) 2433.0421 2589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2433.0421 Now I was not a saint. 2433.9793 2590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2433.9793 (pause 0.12) 2434.1041 2591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2434.1041 Don't get me wrong. 2434.6776 2592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2434.6776 (pause 0.53) 2435.2092 2593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2435.2092 You know, 2435.6195 2594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2435.6195 (pause 0.44) 2436.0578 2595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2436.0578 I- But I really didn't do- I lived a very sheltered life, 2438.9582 2596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2438.9582 (pause 0.77) 2439.7322 2597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2439.7322 unlike my sister. She got a chance to go out and go party and 2442.3982 2598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2442.3982 (pause 0.21) 2442.6034 2599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2442.6034 you know, 2442.8738 2600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2442.8738 (pause 0.88) 2443.7551 2601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2443.7551 enjoy life. 2444.3567 2602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2444.3567 (pause 0.13) 2444.4825 2603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2444.4825 I 2444.8043 2604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2444.8043 (pause 0.20) 2445.0001 2605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2445.0001 chose not to. 2445.7509 2606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2445.7509 (pause 0.41) 2446.1612 2607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2446.1612 Because we're twelve years apart, 2447.5123 2608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2447.5123 (pause 0.13) 2447.6382 2609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2447.6382 by the time my parents came along, 2449.3262 2610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2449.3262 (pause 0.48) 2449.8064 2611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2449.8064 they weren't as strict 2450.5898 2612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2450.5898 (pause 0.17) 2450.7623 2613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2450.7623 on me. 2451.2193 2614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2451.2193 (pause 0.99) 2452.2078 2615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2452.2078 But I also didn't wanna do a lot of the things. 2454.5008 2616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2454.5008 (pause 0.70) 2455.2049 2617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2455.2049 Like I went to my first 2456.1142 2618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2456.1142 (pause 0.12) 2456.2308 2619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2456.2308 house party- 2456.8742 2620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2456.8742 (pause 1.11) 2457.9793 2621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2457.9793 I think I mighta been 2459.6382 2622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2459.6382 (pause 0.21) 2459.8433 2623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2459.8433 seventeen? 2460.3516 2624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2460.3516 (pause 1.74) 2462.0909 2625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2462.0909 And I went one- to one, and that 2463.7089 2626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2463.7089 (pause 0.12) 2463.8290 2627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2463.8290 party was literally across the street 2465.3491 2628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2465.3491 (pause 0.45) 2465.7967 2629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2465.7967 from my parents' house, 2467.0744 2630 DCB_int_01 2467.4800 2468.1282 2631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2468.1748 and my father at eleven fifty nine 2470.5249 2632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2470.5249 (pause 0.68) 2471.2045 2633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2471.2045 was banging on the door to the parents and telling them, 2473.5733 2634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2473.5733 (pause 0.36) 2473.9370 2635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2473.9370 She has to come home. 2474.8090 2636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2474.8090 (pause 0.58) 2475.3918 2637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2475.3918 I was not gonna go through that embarrassment again, so I didn't go to parties anymore. 2478.0532 2638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2478.0532 (pause 1.24) 2479.2888 2639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2479.2888 I just refused to go. 2480.2867 2640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2480.2867 (pause 0.15) 2480.4359 2641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2480.4359 You not gonna embarrass me like that again. 2482.3273 2642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2482.3273 (pause 0.84) 2483.1626 2643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2483.1626 You know. 2483.5076 2644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2483.5076 (pause 0.44) 2483.9459 2645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2483.9459 So 2484.3656 2646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2484.3656 (pause 0.84) 2485.2049 2647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2485.2049 times are so different now, 2486.9115 2648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2486.9115 (pause 0.71) 2487.6250 2649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2487.6250 you know. 2488.0027 2650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2488.0027 (pause 0.63) 2488.6310 2651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2488.6310 Um, 2489.0600 2652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2489.0600 (pause 1.40) 2490.4635 2653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2490.4635 2490.5754 2654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2490.5754 (pause 0.78) 2491.3541 2655 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2491.3541 so DC to me 2492.7716 2656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2492.7716 (pause 2.41) 2495.1812 2657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2495.1812 was 2495.4004 2658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2495.4004 (pause 2.80) 2498.1981 2659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2498.1981 quiet. 2498.5758 2660 DCB_int_01 2500.0030 Mm. 2500.4755 2661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2500.5191 Um, I think I was exposed to a lot of 2502.5568 2662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2502.5568 (pause 0.53) 2503.0837 2663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2503.0837 the more positive things 2504.3333 2664 DCB_int_01 2504.7051 Mm-hm. 2505.0281 2665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2505.0281 than the negative. 2505.7509 2666 DCB_int_01 2506.1879 Yeah. 2506.5387 2667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2507.1206 You know, 2507.4470 2668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2507.4470 (pause 0.28) 2507.7314 2669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2507.7314 so that's why I say yeah, I was kind of sheltered. 2509.5273 2670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2509.5273 (pause 0.62) 2510.1468 2671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2510.1468 I was kind of sheltered. 2510.9209 2672 DCB_int_01 2511.2846 Tell me about Hain's Point. I remember when I was in college that was one of my favorite places to hang out especially because the statue was there, 2517.2752 2673 DCB_int_01 2517.2752 (pause 0.33) 2517.6063 2674 DCB_int_01 2517.6063 and then they moved it and that really hurt my feelings. 2519.8154 2675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2519.7548 Mm-hm. 2520.2677 2676 DCB_int_01 2520.3190 But I have no reco- I remember people talked about 2522.7856 2677 DCB_int_01 2522.7856 (pause 0.06) 2522.8463 2678 DCB_int_01 2522.8463 you know, when you'd go there to hook up and hang out, and 2525.3910 2679 DCB_int_01 2525.3910 (pause 0.69) 2526.0765 2680 DCB_int_01 2526.0765 I don't have recollection of that. I just 2527.6138 2681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2527.8624 [Neither do I.] 2528.4546 2682 DCB_int_01 2528.0396 [walked there] to sit and 2528.9628 2683 DCB_int_01 2529.1214 watch the- sit at the statue. 2530.4177 2684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2531.0740 Okay so 2532.2723 2685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2532.2723 (pause 0.32) 2532.5941 2686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2532.5941 I didn't have much more than what you had, 2534.0116 2687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2534.0116 (pause 0.10) 2534.1095 2688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2534.1095 [although w- there] was no statute. 2535.3825 2689 DCB_int_01 2534.2867 [] 2534.5851 2690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2536.1880 Um, growing 2536.9434 2691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2536.9434 (pause 0.11) 2537.0553 2692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2537.0553 up, 2537.3491 2693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2537.3491 (pause 1.08) 2538.4262 2694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2538.4262 um, 2539.0091 2695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2539.0091 (pause 1.05) 2540.0582 2696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2540.0582 2540.1375 2697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2540.1375 (pause 0.31) 2540.4499 2698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2540.4499 I remember going down- And I was- 2542.1705 2699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2542.1705 (pause 0.68) 2542.8502 2700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2542.8502 My first boyfriend that had a car. His name was /RD-NAME-1/, 2545.8904 2701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2545.8904 (pause 0.76) 2546.6504 2702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2546.6504 and his mom would let him use the car. 2547.9595 2703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2547.9595 (pause 0.39) 2548.3466 2704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2548.3466 And we drove down there, and you would go down I guess kids call parking now. 2551.5173 2705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2551.5173 (pause 0.56) 2552.0769 2706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2552.0769 And you would go down and sit and watch the- 2553.9560 2707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2553.9560 (pause 0.21) 2554.1705 2708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2554.1705 by the water, and watch 2555.2651 2709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2555.2651 (pause 0.24) 2555.5030 2710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2555.5030 every now and then you see a boat or you see the airplanes. You can go on the side where the air- 2558.6597 2711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2558.6597 (pause 0.25) 2558.9115 2712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2558.9115 You know, where you can see the planes taking off or landing. 2560.7687 2713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2560.7687 (pause 0.93) 2561.6941 2714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2561.6941 And- 2562.3283 2715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2562.3283 (pause 0.76) 2563.0883 2716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2563.0883 But that was rare. You didn't- That wasn't something you got to do all the time. 2566.2684 2717 DCB_int_01 2566.7485 Mm. 2567.0572 2718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2567.4517 You could- 2567.7221 2719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2567.7221 (pause 0.25) 2567.9739 2720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2567.9739 more so during the day 2569.3075 2721 DCB_int_01 2569.6712 Mm-hm. 2570.1002 2722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2570.3753 kind of just ride through. 2571.7928 2723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2571.7928 (pause 0.15) 2571.9409 2724 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2571.9409 It was a nice little hang out spot. 2573.3771 2725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2573.3771 (pause 0.38) 2573.7548 2726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2573.7548 I do recall going 2575.1210 2727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2575.1210 (pause 0.14) 2575.2655 2728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2575.2655 um, not just Hain's Point but 2577.0328 2729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2577.0328 (pause 0.35) 2577.3778 2730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2577.3778 Anacostia Park. 2578.2591 2731 DCB_int_01 2578.6450 Mm-hm. 2579.0973 2732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2579.3211 I remember riding there. 2580.5335 2733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2580.5335 (pause 0.49) 2581.0277 2734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2581.0277 I remember, 2581.5220 2735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2581.5220 (pause 1.59) 2583.1074 2736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2583.1074 back when I grew up- 2584.2405 2737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2584.2405 (pause 1.42) 2585.6568 2738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2585.6568 Let's say under the age of eighteen- 2587.3541 2739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2587.3541 (pause 0.61) 2587.9650 2740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2587.9650 As I said I was, 2588.7064 2741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2588.7064 (pause 0.47) 2589.1727 2742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2589.1727 you know, the da- 2589.9047 2743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2589.9047 (pause 0.28) 2590.1834 2744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2590.1834 one- one- 2590.8502 2745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2590.8502 (pause 0.17) 2591.0180 2746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2591.0180 dancer by day and 2592.3609 2747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2592.3609 (pause 0.87) 2593.2329 2748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2593.2329 tomboy by night. You know I would ride my bike, and like if the guys were going to ride bikes- 2596.9154 2749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2596.9154 (pause 0.34) 2597.2558 2750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2597.2558 It was one other young lady, she was like maybe three years older than me. 2599.6013 2751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2599.6013 (pause 0.30) 2599.8997 2752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2599.8997 We would go ride our ten speeds, and we were- 2601.8488 2753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2601.8488 (pause 0.32) 2602.1647 2754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2602.1647 That's how I got chance to tour the 2603.5356 2755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2603.5356 (pause 0.11) 2603.6428 2756 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2603.6428 whole c- 2603.9599 2757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2603.9599 (pause 0.40) 2604.3609 2758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2604.3609 all of DC, 2605.0417 2759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2605.0417 (pause 0.31) 2605.3541 2760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2605.3541 areas I had really never been in before. 2607.1587 2761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2607.1587 (pause 0.41) 2607.5643 2762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2607.5643 Going to the- 2608.1181 2763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2608.1181 (pause 0.10) 2608.2160 2764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2608.2160 You know, we rode from Southeast all the way to the zoo. 2610.2723 2765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2610.2723 (pause 0.72) 2610.9904 2766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2610.9904 You can't get kids to get on a bicycle and do anything like that now. 2613.0374 2767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2613.0374 (pause 0.44) 2613.4757 2768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2613.4757 But we- You know, we would go to the zoo, or I got a chance to experience the Kennedy Center. 2617.2469 2769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2617.2469 (pause 0.55) 2617.7971 2770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2617.7971 Or 2618.4313 2771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2618.4313 (pause 0.14) 2618.5711 2772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2618.5711 um, 2619.0561 2773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2619.0561 (pause 0.25) 2619.3032 2774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2619.3032 Ana- riding through Anacostia Park on a bicycle, 2622.0578 2775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2622.0578 (pause 0.64) 2622.7013 2776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2622.7013 or we actually rode to Hain's Point and rode the circ- You know, went all the way around. 2626.3011 2777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2626.3011 (pause 0.43) 2626.7336 2778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2626.7336 Both East and West Potomac Park, 2628.6454 2779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2628.6454 (pause 0.17) 2628.8179 2780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2628.8179 you know, on a bike. 2629.7551 2781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2629.7551 (pause 0.47) 2630.2261 2782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2630.2261 So 2630.5945 2783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2630.5945 (pause 0.39) 2630.9815 2784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2630.9815 we did athletic things like that. 2632.7802 2785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2632.7802 (pause 0.31) 2633.0926 2786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2633.0926 Um, 2633.4330 2787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2633.4330 (pause 0.68) 2634.1138 2788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2634.1138 as far as just hanging out with friends, 2636.6364 2789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2636.6364 (pause 0.76) 2637.4011 2790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2637.4011 I think 2637.8161 2791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2637.8161 (pause 0.31) 2638.1239 2792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2638.1239 as a senior in high school, 2639.9639 2793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2639.9639 (pause 0.75) 2640.7153 2794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2640.7153 I might have got a chance to do that maybe once or twice. 2643.7928 2795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2643.7928 (pause 1.01) 2644.7989 2796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2644.7989 My life experience was based around- 2646.7806 2797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2646.7806 (pause 0.36) 2647.1396 2798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2647.1396 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Junior High School 2648.2857 2799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2648.2857 (pause 0.57) 2648.8509 2800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2648.8509 Recreation Center. 2649.9887 2801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2649.9887 (pause 0.42) 2650.4072 2802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2650.4072 That's where my sister was the assistant director and the director. 2653.2749 2803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2653.2749 (pause 0.73) 2654.0023 2804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2654.0023 So 2654.7343 2805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2654.7343 (pause 0.45) 2655.1866 2806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2655.1866 my 2655.9374 2807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2655.9374 (pause 0.18) 2656.1134 2808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2656.1134 experiences 2657.0600 2809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2657.0600 (pause 0.55) 2657.6102 2810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2657.6102 were geared 2658.2817 2811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2658.2817 (pause 0.64) 2658.9205 2812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2658.9205 of being a Recreation Center 2660.8556 2813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2660.8556 (pause 0.42) 2661.2799 2814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2661.2799 kid, 2661.5970 2815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2661.5970 (pause 0.65) 2662.2486 2816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2662.2486 [a Rec kid.] 2662.9248 2817 DCB_int_01 2662.2618 [Gotcha.] 2662.9260 2818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2663.9739 You know? 2664.2677 2819 DCB_int_01 2664.3143 Mm-hm. 2664.5941 2820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2664.7153 So, 2665.1629 2821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2665.1629 (pause 0.54) 2665.7038 2822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2665.7038 and I think that's another reason why I didn't develop all of the real strong f- 2668.7895 2823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2668.7895 (pause 0.15) 2668.9387 2824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2668.9387 bonds 2669.3631 2825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2669.3631 (pause 0.30) 2669.6615 2826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2669.6615 in my neighborhood because 2670.5708 2827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2670.5708 (pause 0.47) 2671.0371 2828 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2671.0371 from age thirteen 2672.3333 2829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2672.3333 (pause 0.16) 2672.4919 2830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2672.4919 to age eighteen, I worked for /RD-WORK-6/. 2674.6881 2831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2674.6881 (pause 0.59) 2675.2745 2832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2675.2745 Every summer 2675.9972 2833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2675.9972 (pause 0.21) 2676.2024 2834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2676.2024 and during the week 2677.3868 2835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2677.3868 (pause 0.78) 2678.1701 2836 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2678.1701 two or three hours 2678.9488 2837 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2678.9488 (pause 0.12) 2679.0654 2838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2679.0654 every evening after school. 2680.2778 2839 DCB_int_01 2680.8268 Right. 2681.0880 2840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2681.2512 So that was my whole life. 2682.1511 2841 DCB_int_01 2682.3842 Mm. 2682.6081 2842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2682.9438 So if I wasn't dancing, 2683.9929 2843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2683.9929 (pause 0.98) 2684.9722 2844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2684.9722 I was at /RD-WORK-6/. 2686.0761 2845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2686.0761 (pause 1.32) 2687.3957 2846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2687.3957 Um, 2687.8993 2847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2687.8993 (pause 0.50) 2688.4029 2848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2688.4029 I got a chance to- 2689.3448 2849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2689.3448 (pause 0.27) 2689.6153 2850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2689.6153 Now we had like dances and sock hops or whatever you wanna call it, 2692.8315 2851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2692.8315 (pause 0.44) 2693.2698 2852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2693.2698 so that's- I got my experience at partying. 2695.1070 2853 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2695.1070 (pause 0.85) 2695.9556 2854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2695.9556 Um, I got my ex- 2696.6924 2855 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2696.6924 (pause 0.11) 2696.8043 2856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2696.8043 my first experience with drinking anything- 2698.8500 2857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2698.8500 (pause 0.44) 2699.2931 2858 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2699.2931 I remember Pink Champale was the first alcoholic drink I ever had. 2702.1561 2859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2702.1561 (pause 0.62) 2702.7763 2860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2702.7763 I think I was seventeen. 2704.1134 2861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2704.1134 (pause 1.20) 2705.3164 2862 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2705.3164 I learned then I didn't like drinking. 2706.7106 2863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2706.7106 (pause 0.21) 2706.9205 2864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2706.9205 2707.6899 2865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2707.6899 (pause 0.26) 2707.9463 2866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2707.9463 That didn't go well- 2708.9250 2867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2708.9250 (pause 0.32) 2709.2473 2868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2709.2473 didn't go well at all, 2710.1006 2869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2710.1006 (pause 0.39) 2710.4911 2870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2710.4911 but we- /seemed like/ everybody else was doing it, and I ch- 2712.5568 2871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2712.5568 (pause 0.20) 2712.7526 2872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2712.7526 chose to you know, k- 2713.7318 2873 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2713.7318 (pause 0.24) 2713.9696 2874 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2713.9696 I thought I was grown. 2714.8929 2875 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2714.8929 (pause 0.08) 2714.9722 2876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2714.9722 Okay. 2715.2939 2877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2715.2939 (pause 0.85) 2716.1472 2878 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2716.1472 But um, 2716.8500 2879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2716.8500 (pause 1.00) 2717.8480 2880 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2717.8480 so that's where I got my- my- my real 2719.6432 2881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2719.6432 (pause 0.51) 2720.1515 2882 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2720.1515 real 2720.6551 2883 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2720.6551 (pause 0.36) 2721.0141 2884 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2721.0141 solid DC 2722.2964 2885 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2722.2964 (pause 0.31) 2722.6077 2886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2722.6077 knowledge from 2723.4190 2887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2723.4190 (pause 0.59) 2724.0112 2888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2724.0112 was from being in r- being in- 2725.3961 2889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2725.3961 (pause 0.14) 2725.5406 2890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2725.5406 in /RD-WORK-6/. 2726.4825 2891 DCB_int_01 2726.8463 Mm-hm. 2727.1633 2892 DCB_int_01 2727.1633 (pause 0.71) 2727.8756 2893 DCB_int_01 2727.8756 Did you- Okay, so that's the other- 2729.8154 2894 DCB_int_01 2729.8154 (pause 2.02) 2731.8391 2895 DCB_int_01 2731.8391 One thing you said 2732.5572 2896 DCB_int_01 2732.5572 (pause 0.14) 2732.6970 2897 DCB_int_01 2732.6970 way back- And I wanted to go back to when we were talking about U Street 2735.6895 2898 DCB_int_01 2735.6895 (pause 0.11) 2735.7967 2899 DCB_int_01 2735.7967 and the riots, 2736.7526 2900 DCB_int_01 2736.7526 (pause 0.40) 2737.1490 2901 DCB_int_01 2737.1490 do you r- I know you were really young 2738.6877 2902 DCB_int_01 2738.6877 (pause 0.24) 2738.9302 2903 DCB_int_01 2738.9302 when they [happened], 2739.6489 2904 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2739.4944 [Mm-hm.] 2739.8395 2905 DCB_int_01 2740.4818 like, 2740.7382 2906 DCB_int_01 2740.7382 (pause 0.65) 2741.3864 2907 DCB_int_01 2741.3864 kid kid. 2741.9506 2908 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2742.1604 Yeah. 2742.3703 2909 DCB_int_01 2742.4542 So do you remember- Do you have any 2744.1655 2910 DCB_int_01 2744.1655 (pause 0.52) 2744.6877 2911 DCB_int_01 2744.6877 reco- um, 2745.3732 2912 DCB_int_01 2745.3732 (pause 0.21) 2745.5830 2913 DCB_int_01 2745.5830 2745.6716 2914 DCB_int_01 2745.6716 (pause 0.40) 2746.0679 2915 DCB_int_01 2746.0679 recollection through like, your own eyes, not what your mom told you or your dad or your sister but like, 2750.9442 2916 DCB_int_01 2750.9442 (pause 0.52) 2751.4664 2917 DCB_int_01 2751.4664 how you felt in that 2752.6695 2918 DCB_int_01 2752.6695 (pause 0.39) 2753.0600 2919 DCB_int_01 2753.0600 time? 2753.3910 2920 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2753.5822 No. 2753.8294 2921 DCB_int_01 2754.1511 No? 2754.3330 2922 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2754.2723 I really don't have any. 2755.2935 2923 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2756.3054 Mm-mm. Because 2757.3825 2924 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2757.3825 (pause 0.78) 2758.1612 2925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2758.1612 um, 2758.6612 2926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2758.6612 (pause 0.27) 2758.9341 2927 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2758.9341 that was a- 2759.3444 2928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2759.3444 (pause 0.29) 2759.6382 2929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2759.6382 a time of 2760.3516 2930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2760.3516 (pause 1.24) 2761.5873 2931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2761.5873 discrimination and- 2763.2706 2932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2763.2706 (pause 0.12) 2763.3872 2933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2763.3872 and the- 2764.0306 2934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2764.0306 (pause 0.38) 2764.4118 2935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2764.4118 The Black Panther Party, and I heard about it all. 2766.8645 2936 DCB_int_01 2767.0324 Mm-hm. 2767.3821 2937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2767.9277 Um, 2768.3193 2938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2768.3193 (pause 0.15) 2768.4686 2939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2768.4686 we talked about it in school even, a little. 2770.3151 2940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2770.3151 (pause 1.03) 2771.3491 2941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2771.3491 Uh, cause I had- 2771.9459 2942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2771.9459 (pause 0.26) 2772.2024 2943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2772.2024 Especially when I was in high school, Miss /RD-NAME-2/. 2774.0862 2944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2774.0862 (pause 0.12) 2774.2028 2945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2774.2028 Uh, I'll never forget her, tenth grade. 2775.6716 2946 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2775.6716 (pause 0.44) 2776.1099 2947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2776.1099 She was 2776.5389 2948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2776.5389 (pause 0.32) 2776.8595 2949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2776.8595 sh- 2777.1253 2950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2777.1253 (pause 0.20) 2777.3258 2951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2777.3258 you know, /short bush/ 2778.5055 2952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2778.5055 (pause 0.07) 2778.5801 2953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2778.5801 tall, 2779.0091 2954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2779.0091 (pause 0.48) 2779.4847 2955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2779.4847 real 2779.8297 2956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2779.8297 (pause 0.12) 2779.9510 2957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2779.9510 dark chocolate woman, 2781.3965 2958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2781.3965 (pause 0.48) 2781.8814 2959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2781.8814 and she was 2782.3419 2960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2782.3419 (pause 0.17) 2782.5144 2961 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2782.5144 straightly power to the people 2783.9739 2962 DCB_int_01 2784.1185 Mm-hm. 2784.3656 2963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2784.4215 kind of rebel. 2785.1117 2964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2785.1117 (pause 0.76) 2785.8670 2965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2785.8670 Um, 2786.2444 2966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2786.2444 (pause 0.63) 2786.8742 2967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2786.8742 I learned from that, 2787.9141 2968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2787.9141 (pause 0.42) 2788.3372 2969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2788.3372 but 2788.6869 2970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2788.6869 (pause 0.12) 2788.8035 2971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2788.8035 first hand seeing it myself? 2790.2817 2972 DCB_int_01 2790.5140 Mm-hm. 2790.9864 2973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2791.3401 No. 2791.5406 2974 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2791.5406 (pause 0.94) 2792.4779 2975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2792.4779 Never s- 2793.0281 2976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2793.0281 (pause 0.12) 2793.1447 2977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2793.1447 never- 2793.6902 2978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2793.6902 (pause 0.89) 2794.5844 2979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2794.5844 Really didn't understand 2795.9926 2980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2795.9926 (pause 0.46) 2796.4495 2981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2796.4495 the whole racists or any of- 2798.0909 2982 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2798.0909 (pause 0.24) 2798.3333 2983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2798.3333 didn't understand- 2798.9442 2984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2798.9442 (pause 0.29) 2799.2379 2985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2799.2379 I- 2799.4011 2986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2799.4011 (pause 0.92) 2800.3186 2987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2800.3186 Let me not say I didn't understand it. 2801.7454 2988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2801.7454 (pause 0.14) 2801.8853 2989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2801.8853 I never had any 2803.1536 2990 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2803.1536 (pause 0.10) 2803.2515 2991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2803.2515 encounters o- 2804.1328 2992 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2804.1328 (pause 0.13) 2804.2587 2993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2804.2587 with it 2804.5525 2994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2804.5525 (pause 0.35) 2804.8975 2995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2804.8975 at all. 2805.1773 2996 DCB_int_01 2805.3125 Okay. 2805.6063 2997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2805.9875 No. 2806.2731 2998 DCB_int_01 2807.0786 [Um-] 2807.7035 2999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2807.4330 [I was] fortunate. 2808.1185 3000 DCB_int_01 2809.8950 Especially in the 2810.5572 3001 DCB_int_01 2810.5572 (pause 0.14) 2810.6924 3002 DCB_int_01 2810.6924 thick of the city 2811.5037 3003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2811.6716 Yeah. 2811.9047 3004 DCB_int_01 2811.9234 with the [marches] and- 2813.2838 3005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2812.3512 [Yeah.] 2812.7009 3006 DCB_int_01 2814.0578 and this being the political capital. 2816.3520 3007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2816.5059 Yeah. 2816.8090 3008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2816.8090 (pause 0.28) 2817.0934 3009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2817.0934 Yeah, 2817.2799 3010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2817.2799 (pause 0.07) 2817.3452 3011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2817.3452 I didn't- You know, whatever you saw on television, 2819.3491 3012 DCB_int_01 2819.6055 That's what you saw. 2820.1884 3013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2820.5101 that's what I saw. 2821.1443 3014 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2821.1443 (pause 0.27) 2821.4101 3015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2821.4101 I didn't have to actually live it 2823.0841 3016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2823.0841 (pause 0.12) 2823.2006 3017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2823.2006 or experience any of it. 2824.6508 3018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2824.6508 (pause 1.18) 2825.8294 3019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2825.8294 I would have to say the- 2826.8086 3020 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2826.8086 (pause 0.21) 2827.0231 3021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2827.0231 the- the- 2827.4474 3022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2827.4474 (pause 0.14) 2827.5919 3023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2827.5919 the largest discrimination that I experienced 2830.6636 3024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2830.6636 (pause 0.41) 2831.0693 3025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2831.0693 if- if we had to put it in a category was 2833.0557 3026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2833.0557 (pause 1.19) 2834.2494 3027 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2834.2494 some of the kids 2835.3219 3028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2835.3219 (pause 0.17) 2835.4897 3029 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2835.4897 um, 2835.7462 3030 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2835.7462 (pause 0.50) 2836.2498 3031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2836.2498 that /were/ hang out at the- at the Center, 2838.3563 3032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2838.3563 (pause 0.35) 2838.7106 3033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2838.7106 at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Junior, 2839.4940 3034 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2839.4940 (pause 0.95) 2840.4452 3035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2840.4452 lived in low income housing, 2842.1239 3036 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2842.1239 (pause 0.71) 2842.8315 3037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2842.8315 projects if you will. 2843.8247 3038 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2843.8247 (pause 1.31) 2845.1303 3039 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2845.1303 And because I didn't come from that background, 2847.0561 3040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2847.0561 (pause 0.89) 2847.9420 3041 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2847.9420 there was always a thing where I thought I w- 2849.8433 3042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2849.8433 (pause 0.16) 2850.0065 3043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2850.0065 You know, people say, Oh you think you cute, 2851.4474 3044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2851.4474 (pause 0.31) 2851.7551 3045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2851.7551 cause- 2852.1142 3046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2852.1142 (pause 0.49) 2852.6038 3047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2852.6038 You know 2852.8183 3048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2852.8183 (pause 0.12) 2852.9349 3049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2852.9349 cause I wasn't from the projects. I wasn't from the hood. 2854.7989 3050 DCB_int_01 2855.1952 Mm-hm. 2855.5636 3051 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2855.7454 I wasn't! 2856.2164 3052 DCB_int_01 2856.7153 Right. 2856.9531 3053 DCB_int_01 2856.9531 \] 2893.8924 3092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2890.9760 [] 2894.1888 3093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2894.4825 So 2894.8183 3094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2894.8183 (pause 0.16) 2894.9768 3095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2894.9768 that was dumb. 2895.5923 3096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2895.5923 (pause 0.45) 2896.0400 3097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2896.0400 So no, 2896.4503 3098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2896.4503 (pause 0.16) 2896.6077 3099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2896.6077 I don't have- 2897.6335 3100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2897.6335 (pause 0.36) 2897.9926 3101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2897.9926 The whole U Street thing, 2899.1909 3102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2899.1909 (pause 0.10) 2899.2888 3103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2899.2888 I- 2899.5919 3104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2899.5919 (pause 0.14) 2899.7365 3105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2899.7365 I really- 2900.5292 3106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2900.5292 (pause 0.61) 2901.1400 3107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2901.1400 Except for driving through. 2902.4736 3108 DCB_int_01 2902.8135 Mm-hm. 2903.3515 3109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2903.5403 You know, 2904.0578 3110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2904.0578 (pause 0.13) 2904.1837 3111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2904.1837 um, 2904.6640 3112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2904.6640 (pause 1.63) 2906.2914 3113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2906.2914 I think the whole drug 2907.7275 3114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2907.7275 (pause 0.65) 2908.3757 3115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2908.3757 environment 2909.1859 3116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2909.1859 (pause 0.56) 2909.7454 3117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2909.7454 piece 2910.2350 3118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2910.2350 (pause 0.44) 2910.6780 3119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2910.6780 like- 2910.9065 3120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2910.9065 (pause 0.21) 2911.1163 3121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2911.1163 What was his name? 2911.8810 3122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2911.8810 (pause 0.10) 2911.9790 3123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2911.9790 /RD-NAME-2/? 2913.2240 3124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2913.2240 (pause 0.10) 2913.3219 3125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2913.3219 Or something like that. 2914.3384 3126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2914.3384 (pause 0.35) 2914.6916 3127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2914.6916 He was a big- a young, drug- 2916.0485 3128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2916.0485 (pause 0.15) 2916.2024 3129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2916.2024 big 2916.3889 3130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2916.3889 (pause 0.08) 2916.4728 3131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2916.4728 drug dealer in- in- in like 2917.9696 3132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2917.9696 (pause 0.16) 2918.1328 3133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2918.1328 maybe the 2918.4919 3134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2918.4919 (pause 0.85) 2919.3405 3135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2919.3405 seventies, eighties something [like that.] 2921.4936 3136 DCB_int_01 2921.0078 [Mm.] 2921.4936 3137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2921.7081 2921.8014 3138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2921.8014 (pause 2.23) 2924.0302 3139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2924.0302 Um, 2924.6831 3140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2924.6831 (pause 0.79) 2925.4757 3141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2925.4757 my parents kept me away from stuff like that. 2927.5496 3142 DCB_int_01 2928.2817 Mm. 2928.5801 3143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2928.6407 That's really the only way I can think of it. 2929.8997 3144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2929.8997 (pause 0.57) 2930.4686 3145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2930.4686 They kept me in engaged in sports. They kept me engaged in dancing. 2933.8667 3146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2933.8667 (pause 0.57) 2934.4355 3147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2934.4355 They kept m- me structured so that I did not have to experience. 2938.3430 3148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2938.3430 (pause 0.83) 2939.1719 3149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2939.1719 You know, and my dad 2940.1931 3150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2940.1931 (pause 0.14) 2940.3283 3151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2940.3283 and my mom /of all-/ you know, right there. 2942.2960 3152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2942.2960 (pause 0.28) 2942.5805 3153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2942.5805 So like I said if I needed s- 2943.8301 3154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2943.8301 (pause 0.12) 2943.9467 3155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2943.9467 to be somewhere, or needed to go somewhere, 2945.5496 3156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2945.5496 (pause 0.41) 2945.9599 3157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2945.9599 my dad drove me. He took me. He didn't l- 2947.8670 3158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2947.8670 (pause 0.44) 2948.3054 3159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2948.3054 I didn't- 2948.5945 3160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2948.5945 (pause 0.47) 2949.0654 3161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2949.0654 Only occasionally were I- was I really allowed to ride the bus 2952.1371 3162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2952.1371 (pause 0.42) 2952.5614 3163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2952.5614 places. 2953.1350 3164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2953.1350 (pause 0.36) 2953.4940 3165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2953.4940 Saturday mornings if I had to go to dancing school, 2955.5504 3166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2955.5504 (pause 0.58) 2956.1274 3167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2956.1274 some Saturdays I would ride the bus, 2957.9040 3168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2957.9040 (pause 0.21) 2958.1138 3169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2958.1138 but 2958.6267 3170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2958.6267 (pause 0.13) 2958.7573 3171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2958.7573 other than that, 2959.4474 3172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2959.4474 (pause 1.45) 2960.9022 3173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2960.9022 they were there to pick me up and bring me home. 2962.4923 3174 DCB_int_01 2963.5344 Mm. 2963.8200 3175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2963.8200 You know, so 2964.6640 3176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2964.7526 I didn't get a chance to just 2965.7458 3177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2965.7458 (pause 0.29) 2966.0396 3178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2966.0396 venture and wander. 2967.0794 3179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2967.0794 (pause 0.24) 2967.3172 3180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2967.3172 You know, um, 2968.0539 3181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2968.0539 (pause 0.29) 2968.3477 3182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2968.3477 Like if the kids in the neighborhood were going to the movies, 2970.4397 3183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2970.4397 (pause 0.46) 2970.8972 3184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2970.8972 somebody's mother was taking us. 2972.1935 3185 DCB_int_01 2972.6038 Mm-hm. 2973.0188 3186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2973.6529 Um, 2974.2207 3187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2974.2207 (pause 1.29) 2975.5123 3188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2975.5123 and I didn't do that often. 2976.5661 3189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2976.5661 (pause 0.84) 2977.4054 3190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2977.4054 I didn't get a chance to go and s- like, if I, you know, 2979.5877 3191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2979.5877 (pause 0.10) 2979.6902 3192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2979.6902 going to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, you know, that's kind of- 2981.4237 3193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2981.4237 (pause 0.62) 2982.0485 3194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2982.0485 kids are spread out all over coming to a school. 2984.0302 3195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2984.0302 (pause 0.54) 2984.5665 3196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2984.5665 If I had friends and they wanted to do sleepovers and things like that, my 2987.8247 3197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2987.8247 (pause 0.21) 2988.0299 3198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2988.0299 parents- No, my father's like, No, you're not sleeping at nobody else's house. 2990.9582 3199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2990.9582 (pause 0.10) 2991.0607 3200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2991.0607 No. 2991.2986 3201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2991.2986 (pause 0.36) 2991.6576 3202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2991.6576 They can come here, but no you not- And if they had brothers, oh no, that wasn't happening. 2995.0904 3203 DCB_int_01 2995.4381 Oh. 2995.7924 3204 DCB_int_01 2995.7924 (pause 0.13) 2995.9183 3205 DCB_int_01 2995.9183 Mm. 2996.4452 3206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2996.5338 That's not happening. 2997.3219 3207 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2997.3219 (pause 1.15) 2998.4678 3208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2998.4678 And if they didn't live in 2999.8760 3209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2999.8760 (pause 0.11) 2999.9832 3210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 2999.9832 a 3000.3516 3211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3000.3516 (pause 1.00) 3001.3541 3212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3001.3541 neighborhood community 3003.0374 3213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3003.0374 (pause 0.68) 3003.7182 3214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3003.7182 with 3003.9793 3215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3003.9793 (pause 0.51) 3004.4864 3216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3004.4864 structures similar to ours, 3006.1371 3217 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3006.1371 (pause 0.88) 3007.0137 3218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3007.0137 and you had maybe five or six brothers and sisters or just 3009.8115 3219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3009.8115 (pause 0.20) 3010.0073 3220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3010.0073 five or six sisters, 3010.8921 3221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3010.8921 (pause 0.56) 3011.4563 3222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3011.4563 my father wouldn't allow that. 3012.7200 3223 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3012.7200 (pause 1.10) 3013.8204 3224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3013.8204 He- 3013.9883 3225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3013.9883 (pause 0.31) 3014.3007 3226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3014.3007 no, my- my dad was- 3015.8441 3227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3015.8441 (pause 0.48) 3016.3232 3228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3016.3232 My version of my dad, he was bougie. 3017.8060 3229 DCB_int_01 3018.4622 3019.2282 3230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3019.2282 3019.3495 3231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3019.6292 My father was bougie. 3020.4779 3232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3020.4779 (pause 0.88) 3021.3545 3233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3021.3545 He- 3021.6809 3234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3021.6809 (pause 0.68) 3022.3570 3235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3022.3570 but it wasn't- 3023.0833 3236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3023.0833 (pause 0.20) 3023.2838 3237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3023.2838 it wasn't- 3023.9413 3238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3023.9413 (pause 1.43) 3025.3728 3239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3025.3728 it wasn't in a sense- 3026.6924 3240 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3026.6924 (pause 1.93) 3028.6217 3241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3028.6217 Yeah he was just bougie. 3029.4577 3242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3029.4577 (pause 0.27) 3029.7314 3243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3029.7314 He thought 3030.2257 3244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3030.2257 (pause 0.84) 3031.0697 3245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3031.0697 he was making a better life for us [so that we had better.] 3033.3592 3246 DCB_int_01 3032.5906 [Mm.] 3033.3592 3247 DCB_int_01 3033.7089 Mm. 3033.9662 3248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3035.3398 So 3036.3936 3249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3036.3936 (pause 0.94) 3037.3355 3250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3037.3355 what as I would look at now, saying, Okay, well yeah you can go hang out with your friends and just 3041.8713 3251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3041.8713 (pause 0.14) 3042.0112 3252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3042.0112 be back home at a certain time, 3043.2282 3253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3043.2282 (pause 1.33) 3044.5618 3254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3044.5618 no. 3044.9302 3255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3044.9302 (pause 0.49) 3045.4198 3256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3045.4198 My- my dad didn't- 3046.6651 3257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3046.6651 (pause 1.25) 3047.9180 3258 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3047.9180 And then I r- Like I said, I- 3049.4101 3259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3049.4101 (pause 0.21) 3049.6153 3260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3049.6153 I learned very early that 3050.9395 3261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3050.9395 (pause 0.33) 3051.2706 3262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3051.2706 there was certain things I didn't think he was gonna allow me to do, 3054.0205 3263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3054.0205 (pause 0.41) 3054.4309 3264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3054.4309 so as not to get disappointed, 3056.1515 3265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3056.1515 (pause 0.34) 3056.4919 3266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3056.4919 I didn't ask to go do 'em. 3057.3312 3267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3057.3312 (pause 1.51) 3058.8455 3268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3058.8455 So I c- probably 3059.5309 3269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3059.5309 (pause 0.67) 3060.2024 3270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3060.2024 caused some of my 3061.1023 3271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3061.1023 (pause 1.07) 3062.1701 3272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3062.1701 structured [and] 3063.5877 3273 DCB_int_01 3063.3042 [] 3065.3389 3274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3064.1659 [sheltered] 3064.8233 3275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3065.6149 naive life. 3067.7505 3276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3067.7505 (pause 1.08) 3068.8276 3277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3068.8276 Yeah. 3069.0841 3278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3069.0841 (pause 0.32) 3069.4058 3279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3069.4058 That's how you can look at it. It was 3070.3943 3280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3070.3943 (pause 0.22) 3070.6123 3281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3070.6123 pretty [naive.] 3071.2698 3282 DCB_int_01 3070.9437 [Kind of structured, naive.] 3072.3889 3283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3072.2583 [Naive], yeah. 3072.9158 3284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3073.0137 Mm-hm. 3073.3541 3285 DCB_int_01 3074.5665 Okay, we're gonna switch it up a little bit. 3076.3524 3286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3076.5144 Okay. 3076.7429 3287 DCB_int_01 3076.7289 I'm'a ask you- 3077.4004 3288 DCB_int_01 3078.0532 This has nothing to do with anything, just 3080.0256 3289 DCB_int_01 3080.0256 (pause 0.18) 3080.2074 3290 DCB_int_01 3080.2074 wanna know. 3080.6131 3291 DCB_int_01 3080.6131 (pause 0.39) 3081.0001 3292 DCB_int_01 3081.0001 What's your favorite book or movie and why? 3082.8187 3293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3084.7293 3086.3100 3294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3086.3100 (pause 3.13) 3089.4423 3295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3089.4423 Okay, so, 3090.6827 3296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3090.6827 (pause 0.84) 3091.5267 3297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3091.5267 3091.6339 3298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3091.6339 (pause 0.83) 3092.4686 3299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3092.4686 my favorite movie- 3094.2171 3300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3094.2171 (pause 1.22) 3095.4330 3301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3095.4330 Mm. 3095.6895 3302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3095.6895 (pause 0.23) 3095.9180 3303 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3095.9180 I have- 3096.1837 3304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3096.1837 (pause 0.96) 3097.1396 3305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3097.1396 I have two. 3097.6945 3306 DCB_int_01 3097.9277 I'll let you have two. 3098.8136 3307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3098.9628 I have two. 3099.4431 3308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3099.4431 (pause 2.32) 3101.7641 3309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3101.7641 I love The Color Purple. 3102.8319 3310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3102.8319 (pause 1.25) 3104.0862 3311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3104.0862 3104.1655 3312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3104.1655 (pause 0.21) 3104.3800 3313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3104.3800 I mean, that- that's- 3105.2706 3314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3105.2706 (pause 0.08) 3105.3545 3315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3105.3545 that's my ultimate. 3106.2078 3316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3106.2078 (pause 0.89) 3107.0973 3317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3107.0973 Actually, 3107.5030 3318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3107.5030 (pause 2.43) 3109.9323 3319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3109.9323 okay I have three. 3110.7204 3320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3110.7204 (pause 0.40) 3111.1214 3321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3111.1214 But The Color Purple [is one o- it's my favorite-] 3113.0320 3322 DCB_int_01 3112.0296 [] 3113.5776 3323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3113.5776 It was my favorite 3114.5288 3324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3114.7806 book 3115.0371 3325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3115.0371 (pause 0.12) 3115.1536 3326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3115.1536 to read. 3115.5220 3327 DCB_int_01 3115.8932 Mm-hm. 3116.4592 3328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3116.6691 Um, 3117.2053 3329 DCB_int_01 3117.3685 The book is good. 3118.1286 3330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3118.6077 3118.7103 3331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3118.7103 (pause 0.39) 3119.1019 3332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3119.1019 I- 3119.3444 3333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3119.3444 (pause 0.52) 3119.8667 3334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3119.8667 the movie was good, 3120.7946 3335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3120.7946 (pause 0.33) 3121.1210 3336 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3121.1210 but I always have to say- I'll use that 3122.5141 3337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3122.5141 (pause 0.10) 3122.6120 3338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3122.6120 with the book. 3123.0689 3339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3123.0689 (pause 0.83) 3123.8943 3340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3123.8943 Um, 3124.3454 3341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3124.3454 (pause 0.19) 3124.5319 3342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3124.5319 Roots 3125.0029 3343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3125.0029 (pause 0.60) 3125.5997 3344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3125.5997 was one of my favorite movies, 3126.8261 3345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3126.8261 (pause 1.04) 3127.8659 3346 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3127.8659 and the reason being- It gave me 3129.6891 3347 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3129.6891 (pause 0.45) 3130.1356 3348 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3130.1356 a lot of history. 3131.1381 3349 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3131.1381 (pause 0.98) 3132.1220 3350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3132.1220 Uh, ga- It gave me a lot of 3134.0151 3351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3134.0151 (pause 0.09) 3134.1037 3352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3134.1037 um, 3134.6399 3353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3134.6399 (pause 0.18) 3134.8218 3354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3134.8218 information 3135.5446 3355 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3135.5446 (pause 0.33) 3135.8698 3356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3135.8698 that they don't 3136.3781 3357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3136.3781 (pause 0.11) 3136.4853 3358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3136.4853 teach you in school. 3137.4459 3359 DCB_int_01 3137.5547 Mm. 3137.9102 3360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3138.8914 You know, the- it- 3139.6048 3361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3139.6048 (pause 0.10) 3139.7027 3362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3139.7027 it gave me 3140.4954 3363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3140.4954 (pause 0.51) 3141.0083 3364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3141.0083 my heritage 3141.8849 3365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3141.8849 (pause 1.16) 3143.0402 3366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3143.0402 from a different perspective. 3144.0987 3367 DCB_int_01 3144.6189 Mm-hm. 3145.0352 3368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3145.4836 Um, not just, 3146.5793 3369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3146.5793 (pause 0.37) 3146.9477 3370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3146.9477 Okay, so you know, 3148.2300 3371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3148.2300 (pause 0.96) 3149.1941 3372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3149.1941 you came over on a ship, and you were this and you were that, but it gave- 3152.3695 3373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3152.3695 (pause 0.48) 3152.8451 3374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3152.8451 It- it 3153.2461 3375 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3153.2461 (pause 0.09) 3153.3394 3376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3153.3394 opened up your mind. It made you think. 3155.5671 3377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3155.5671 (pause 0.74) 3156.3085 3378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3156.3085 It didn't change how I felt about people, 3158.3555 3379 DCB_int_01 3158.6911 Mm-hm. 3159.0456 3380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3159.0456 but it just gave me a different perspective 3161.0398 3381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3161.2314 t- to see people 3162.4064 3382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3162.4064 (pause 1.38) 3163.7820 3383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3163.7820 for what they are and who they are 3165.1948 3384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3165.1948 (pause 0.62) 3165.8185 3385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3165.8185 and we were tricked or how 3167.7629 3386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3167.7629 (pause 0.54) 3168.2992 3387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3168.2992 we were 3168.9566 3388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3168.9566 (pause 0.75) 3169.7027 3389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3169.7027 judged 3170.3187 3390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3170.3187 (pause 0.47) 3170.7892 3391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3170.7892 or how we were treated. 3172.2953 3392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3172.2953 (pause 0.91) 3173.2081 3393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3173.2081 Um, 3173.7629 3394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3173.7629 (pause 2.46) 3176.2250 3395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3176.2250 and it wasn't necessarily because we did anything wrong, 3178.4527 3396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3178.4527 (pause 1.33) 3179.7816 3397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3179.7816 you know. 3180.0987 3398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3180.0987 (pause 0.76) 3180.8634 3399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3180.8634 Um, my other favorite movie which is 3182.5141 3400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3182.5141 (pause 0.68) 3183.1902 3401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3183.1902 way off the cuff is Pretty Woman. 3185.0728 3402 DCB_int_01 3187.0519 /Yes Mm-hm/, 3187.9312 3403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3187.9918 [Yeah.] 3188.3089 3404 DCB_int_01 3188.0011 [a different-] a different- 3189.0876 3405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3189.0689 Totally different. 3189.7824 3406 DCB_int_01 3190.1880 Why? 3190.4865 3407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3191.3759 Pretty Woman 3192.0940 3408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3192.0940 (pause 0.15) 3192.2432 3409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3192.2432 actually it's my daughter and mine- 3193.4929 3410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3193.4929 (pause 0.07) 3193.5628 3411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3193.5628 We- we- We'll always watch it, and we still do to this day if it comes on, we'll sit and watch it together. 3197.6231 3412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3197.6231 (pause 1.17) 3198.7888 3413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3198.7888 Pretty Woman was 3199.8659 3414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3199.8659 (pause 0.34) 3200.2016 3415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3200.2016 to me 3200.8824 3416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3200.8824 (pause 1.02) 3201.9071 3417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3201.9071 a movie of someone who didn't have- 3204.7655 3418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3204.7655 (pause 1.63) 3206.3975 3419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3206.3975 It was a white lady who didn't have everything in life. 3208.8038 3420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3208.8038 (pause 0.93) 3209.7303 3421 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3209.7303 She had a rough life. 3210.9566 3422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3210.9566 (pause 1.10) 3212.0571 3423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3212.0571 She was on the streets. 3213.0456 3424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3213.0456 (pause 1.33) 3214.3734 3425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3214.3734 Um, she was prostituting. 3215.7863 3426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3215.7863 (pause 0.43) 3216.2199 3427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3216.2199 It wasn't cause she wanted to but it was t- for survival. 3218.4208 3428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3218.4208 (pause 1.31) 3219.7264 3429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3219.7264 But she turned that around, and she still had a dream. 3222.7048 3430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3222.7048 (pause 0.41) 3223.1198 3431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3223.1198 She still had something in her 3225.0969 3432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3225.0969 (pause 0.34) 3225.4373 3433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3225.4373 that someone with 3226.1962 3434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3226.1962 (pause 0.10) 3226.2988 3435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3226.2988 all the money in the world 3227.3946 3436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3227.3946 (pause 0.28) 3227.6790 3437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3227.6790 could see some good in her, 3229.2877 3438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3229.2877 (pause 0.80) 3230.0897 3439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3230.0897 and it just turned to be like a positive thing. 3232.3372 3440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3232.3372 (pause 0.82) 3233.1614 3441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3233.1614 And he took her out of 3235.0452 3442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3235.0452 (pause 0.97) 3236.0198 3443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3236.0198 the elements that she had 3237.1575 3444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3237.1575 (pause 1.30) 3238.4620 3445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3238.4620 become, 3238.8863 3446 DCB_int_01 3239.2081 Mm-hm. 3239.5484 3447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3240.4577 and gave her- 3241.0266 3448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3241.0266 (pause 0.12) 3241.1432 3449 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3241.1432 and gave her the opportunity to have a dream world. 3242.8032 3450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3242.8032 (pause 0.58) 3243.3814 3451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3243.3814 It gives you opportunity to see, 3244.6578 3452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3244.6578 (pause 0.34) 3244.9936 3453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3244.9936 okay, you may be down here and you may be down and out and you maybe just 3248.2762 3454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3248.2762 (pause 0.91) 3249.1902 3455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3249.1902 at your lowest of your lowest, 3250.5926 3456 DCB_int_01 3250.8354 Right. 3251.1441 3457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3251.3153 but if you persevere, 3252.3132 3458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3252.3132 (pause 1.08) 3253.3903 3459 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3253.3903 don't think less of yourself. 3255.0410 3460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3255.0410 (pause 0.49) 3255.5352 3461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3255.5352 Just because he has money and he has stature and he has power, 3258.7095 3462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3258.7095 (pause 1.00) 3259.7074 3463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3259.7074 why would you think that you could not 3261.3394 3464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3261.3394 (pause 1.45) 3262.7884 3465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3262.7884 engage conversation or 3264.4670 3466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3264.4670 (pause 1.06) 3265.5255 3467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3265.5255 develop a relationship? 3266.8125 3468 DCB_int_01 3267.4674 Mm. 3267.8837 3469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3267.9910 And they- 3268.3967 3470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3268.3967 (pause 0.20) 3268.5926 3471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3268.5926 And he- 3269.0961 3472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3269.0961 (pause 0.31) 3269.4039 3473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3269.4039 She taught him so much about- 3270.9380 3474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3270.9380 (pause 0.28) 3271.2131 3475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3271.2131 Because he s- felt as though he was so 3272.9757 3476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3272.9757 (pause 0.08) 3273.0596 3477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3273.0596 high up, 3273.6133 3478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3273.6133 (pause 0.17) 3273.7859 3479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3273.7859 so high and mighty. 3274.7604 3480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3274.7604 (pause 1.11) 3275.8748 3481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3275.8748 But 3276.2805 3482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3276.2805 (pause 0.17) 3276.4530 3483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3276.4530 it was more so 3277.3716 3484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3277.3716 (pause 0.92) 3278.2902 3485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3278.2902 he 3278.5514 3486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3278.5514 (pause 0.72) 3279.2694 3487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3279.2694 did not necessarily come down to her level 3281.7490 3488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3281.7490 (pause 0.28) 3282.0241 3489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3282.0241 because she really had education and she had knowledge, 3284.5420 3490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3284.5420 (pause 0.21) 3284.7519 3491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3284.7519 she just fell on hard times, 3286.0808 3492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3286.0808 (pause 0.26) 3286.3454 3493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3286.3454 but it was a thing where- 3287.2920 3494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3287.2920 (pause 0.21) 3287.4972 3495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3287.4972 It shows that 3288.3365 3496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3288.3365 (pause 0.27) 3288.6069 3497 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3288.6069 because you have all these things 3290.6446 3498 DCB_int_01 3290.8731 Mm-hm. 3291.2368 3499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3291.8232 and all this position, 3292.9469 3500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3292.9469 (pause 0.53) 3293.4785 3501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3293.4785 you're not better than. 3294.5005 3502 DCB_int_01 3294.9147 Right. 3295.1571 3503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3295.4462 Because now you're not really taking time to 3297.6658 3504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3297.6658 (pause 0.40) 3298.0610 3505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3298.0610 just walk barefoot in the grass. 3299.7536 3506 DCB_int_01 3300.5090 Mm-hm. 3300.9100 3507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3300.9986 And my favorite line it is, 3302.1876 3508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3302.1876 (pause 0.25) 3302.4394 3509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3302.4394 Lay like broccoli. I use it all the time. 3304.3559 3510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3304.3559 (pause 0.24) 3304.5926 3511 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3304.5926 You just wanna just be. You just exist. 3306.5323 3512 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3306.5323 (pause 0.21) 3306.7421 3513 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3306.7421 You just wanna lay like broccoli. 3307.9359 3514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3307.9359 (pause 0.50) 3308.4394 3515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3308.4394 I- 3308.5887 3516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3308.5887 (pause 0.23) 3308.8218 3517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3308.8218 And that's one of the reasons I love that movie because it just- 3310.8630 3518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3310.8630 (pause 0.39) 3311.2500 3519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3311.2500 It brings two different environments, two different 3313.5022 3520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3313.5022 (pause 0.97) 3314.4767 3521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3314.4767 um, 3314.9151 3522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3314.9151 (pause 1.22) 3316.1356 3523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3316.1356 background- people of backgrounds, 3317.6137 3524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3317.6137 (pause 0.50) 3318.1173 3525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3318.1173 and it brings them together, 3319.3360 3526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3319.3360 (pause 1.65) 3320.9850 3527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3320.9850 and they fall in love with each other. 3322.2067 3528 DCB_int_01 3322.3028 Right. 3322.7098 3529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3323.3293 It was unconditional. 3324.2246 3530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3324.2246 (pause 0.46) 3324.6815 3531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3324.6815 I didn't judge you cause of who you were. You didn't judge me cause- 3327.1342 3532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3327.1342 (pause 0.30) 3327.4326 3533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3327.4326 And I love that 3328.2067 3534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3328.2067 (pause 0.38) 3328.5832 3535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3328.5832 because I look at that's how people really should be. 3330.4624 3536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3330.4624 (pause 0.34) 3330.7981 3537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3330.7981 Why- why- why would you judge somebody because of their background? 3333.2508 3538 DCB_int_01 3333.7299 Mm-hm. 3334.1356 3539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3334.3035 Learn who they are. 3335.2827 3540 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3335.2827 (pause 0.46) 3335.7443 3541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3335.7443 Learn to- Learn what it is about them that 3337.8752 3542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3337.8752 (pause 0.49) 3338.3648 3543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3338.3648 you can learn from. 3339.6040 3544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3339.6040 (pause 1.27) 3340.8723 3545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3340.8723 And that turns into a great experience, 3342.3971 3546 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3342.3971 (pause 0.28) 3342.6769 3547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3342.6769 so that's why I love that one. 3343.5535 3548 DCB_int_01 3343.7960 And that's your favorite. 3344.5940 3549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3344.9524 Yeah. 3345.2834 3550 DCB_int_01 3345.3953 One of the- 3345.8885 3551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3346.3874 One [of 'em.] 3346.7837 3552 DCB_int_01 3346.5832 [two] 3346.8817 3553 DCB_int_01 3347.2687 [slash] three. 3347.9401 3554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3347.2780 [Or three.] 3347.7256 3555 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3348.0427 [] 3348.8121 3556 DCB_int_01 3348.3598 [Right.] 3348.5696 3557 DCB_int_01 3348.5696 (pause 0.11) 3348.6815 3558 DCB_int_01 3348.6815 [Depends] on how we [/categorize them/.] 3349.9825 3559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3349.5721 [Yeah yeah] yeah. 3350.2343 3560 DCB_int_01 3350.4068 Alright. There are some things that are unique to DC. 3353.0215 3561 DCB_int_01 3353.0215 (pause 0.33) 3353.3479 3562 DCB_int_01 3353.3479 Hello sir. 3354.2712 3563 DCB_int_01 3354.2712 (pause 1.65) 3355.9172 3564 DCB_int_01 3355.9172 Hi. 3356.4161 3565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3356.7565 Lay down (whispering). 3357.2928 3566 DCB_int_01 3357.3942 Um, 3357.8325 3567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3358.7371 Lay down (whispering). 3359.2314 3568 DCB_int_01 3359.4972 so- 3360.0241 3569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3364.0610 He's sleepy. 3364.8117 3570 DCB_int_01 3365.0076 He is. 3365.5624 3571 DCB_int_01 3365.5624 (pause 3.59) 3369.1482 3572 DCB_int_01 3369.1482 We are. 3369.6378 3573 DCB_int_01 3369.6378 (pause 0.50) 3370.1356 3574 DCB_int_01 3370.1356 So 3370.5179 3575 DCB_int_01 3370.5179 (pause 0.33) 3370.8443 3576 DCB_int_01 3370.8443 there are two or three things that are unique to DC, 3373.0779 3577 DCB_int_01 3373.0779 (pause 0.39) 3373.4696 3578 DCB_int_01 3373.4696 um, and if you could tell me about your experience with them. 3376.4900 3579 DCB_int_01 3376.4900 (pause 0.27) 3376.7604 3580 DCB_int_01 3376.7604 One, 3377.1148 3581 DCB_int_01 3377.1148 (pause 1.19) 3378.3038 3582 DCB_int_01 3378.3038 um, 3379.1465 3583 DCB_int_01 3379.1465 (pause 0.74) 3379.8846 3584 DCB_int_01 3379.8846 go go music. 3380.5933 3585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3382.4806 3383.5391 3586 DCB_int_01 3384.1639 3384.4717 3587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3385.5022 3385.9545 3588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3385.9545 (pause 1.96) 3387.9129 3589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3387.9129 Well, 3388.3419 3590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3388.3419 (pause 2.24) 3390.5836 3591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3390.5836 okay, so they tell me 3392.3695 3592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3392.3695 (pause 0.72) 3393.0923 3593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3393.0923 I was around the time when Junk Yard and all that came out. 3396.3456 3594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3396.3456 (pause 1.53) 3397.8752 3595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3397.8752 Um, 3398.4208 3596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3398.4208 (pause 0.33) 3398.7472 3597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3398.7472 at that time I was in the classical music. 3400.5038 3598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3400.5038 (pause 0.25) 3400.7511 3599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3400.7511 [] 3402.6762 3600 DCB_int_01 3400.9689 [Oh. Okay. ] 3401.8282 3601 DCB_int_01 3401.8282 (pause 0.17) 3402.0026 3602 DCB_int_01 3402.0026 [Mkay.] 3402.3768 3603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3402.9100 Um, 3403.5395 3604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3403.5395 (pause 0.54) 3404.0804 3605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3404.0804 3404.1457 3606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3404.1457 (pause 0.15) 3404.2949 3607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3404.2949 and because I didn't go to go gos, 3405.6891 3608 DCB_int_01 3405.9957 Mm. Mm-hm. 3406.5086 3609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3406.6019 never been to one. 3407.3619 3610 DCB_int_01 3407.6510 Eleven fifty nine, your dad would come knock on- Right. 3409.7866 3611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3409.7633 Yeah, I've never been to a go go. 3410.9290 3612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3411.1389 So, 3411.4793 3613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3411.4793 (pause 0.94) 3412.4154 3614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3412.4154 um, 3412.7744 3615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3412.7744 (pause 0.36) 3413.1381 3616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3413.1381 I- 3413.4599 3617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3413.4599 (pause 0.24) 3413.7023 3618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3413.7023 I do know the music 3414.9380 3619 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3414.9380 (pause 0.47) 3415.4043 3620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3415.4043 in you know the- 3416.4861 3621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3416.4861 (pause 0.92) 3417.4093 3622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3417.4093 Was it 3417.7357 3623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3417.7357 (pause 0.21) 3417.9491 3624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3417.9491 um, Rare Essence and Junk Yard, and 3420.4670 3625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3420.4670 (pause 1.19) 3421.6607 3626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3421.6607 I can dance to it. 3422.5747 3627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3422.5747 (pause 0.94) 3423.5154 3628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3423.5154 I don't have a clue what they're saying. 3424.7604 3629 DCB_int_01 3424.9691 [] 3425.9748 3630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3424.9702 [] 3425.3573 3631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3426.0614 That's 3426.4018 3632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3426.4018 (pause 0.09) 3426.4950 3633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3426.4950 part of my naiveness, 3427.4789 3634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3427.4789 (pause 0.16) 3427.6421 3635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3427.6421 at fifty five I still don't know. 3429.3161 3636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3429.3161 (pause 0.31) 3429.6285 3637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3429.6285 3429.7357 3638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3429.7357 (pause 0.33) 3430.0610 3639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3430.0610 I think at this point it's best that I don't know. 3431.9588 3640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3431.9588 (pause 0.71) 3432.6722 3641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3432.6722 Um, 3433.1758 3642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3433.1758 (pause 2.78) 3435.9537 3643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3435.9537 you know like the kids with the buckets and they beating on the bottom of the paint- 3439.0919 3644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3439.0919 (pause 0.22) 3439.3110 3645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3439.3110 Is it a paint pail? 3440.3508 3646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3440.3508 (pause 0.48) 3440.8358 3647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3440.8358 Paint bucket? 3441.4047 3648 DCB_int_01 3441.6740 Trash 3442.1869 3649 DCB_int_01 3442.1869 (pause 0.18) 3442.3687 3650 DCB_int_01 3442.3687 [group /or something/.] 3443.0822 3651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3442.4900 [And a trash can?] Uh-huh. Yeah. 3443.9634 3652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3444.5137 So I kind of- I grew up during that time but I didn't listen to that type of music. 3448.3268 3653 DCB_int_01 3449.2454 Hm. 3449.5027 3654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3449.9215 I was l- You know, the Yellowjackets, and I was listening to 3453.7311 3655 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3453.7311 (pause 0.57) 3454.3035 3656 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3454.3035 um, Queen, 3455.1521 3657 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3455.1521 (pause 0.49) 3455.6464 3658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3455.6464 3455.8049 3659 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3455.8049 (pause 0.75) 3456.5510 3660 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3456.5510 and I was into classical music during that time where everybody else was listening to 3459.6705 3661 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3459.6705 (pause 0.74) 3460.4154 3662 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3460.4154 go go. 3460.6858 3663 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3460.6858 (pause 1.62) 3462.3085 3664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3462.3085 3462.4251 3665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3462.4251 (pause 0.50) 3462.9240 3666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3462.9240 Because I was dancing, 3463.7913 3667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3463.7913 (pause 0.16) 3463.9545 3668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3463.9545 and 3464.3928 3669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3464.3928 (pause 1.54) 3465.9316 3670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3465.9316 I went into- 3466.8350 3671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3466.8350 (pause 0.37) 3467.2034 3672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3467.2034 From age 3467.8142 3673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3467.8142 (pause 0.15) 3467.9681 3674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3467.9681 fifteen to about nineteen I went into this classical thing, and I just- 3471.8616 3675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3471.8616 (pause 0.46) 3472.3221 3676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3472.3221 You know, um, Beethoven and Bach and 3474.7701 3677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3474.7701 (pause 0.61) 3475.3810 3678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3475.3810 um, 3475.9125 3679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3475.9125 (pause 1.22) 3477.1296 3680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3477.1296 I got 3477.5725 3681 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3477.5725 (pause 0.18) 3477.7486 3682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3477.7486 into that. I don't- 3478.5786 3683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3478.5786 (pause 0.13) 3478.7091 3684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3478.7091 can't 3478.9236 3685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3478.9236 (pause 0.15) 3479.0775 3686 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3479.0775 tell you why, 3479.4972 3687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3479.4972 (pause 0.14) 3479.6370 3688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3479.6370 so I don't really know. 3480.4204 3689 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3480.4204 (pause 0.45) 3480.8680 3690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3480.8680 Now as I've gotten older, 3481.8846 3691 DCB_int_01 3481.9176 Mm-hm. 3482.5489 3692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3483.3161 I can appreciate 3484.0668 3693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3484.0668 (pause 0.13) 3484.1962 3694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3484.1962 the go go music 3484.9936 3695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3484.9936 (pause 0.89) 3485.8842 3696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3485.8842 and where it came from and Chuck. 3487.2597 3697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3487.2597 (pause 0.85) 3488.1084 3698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3488.1084 You know, um, 3489.1342 3699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3489.1342 (pause 1.67) 3490.8024 3700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3490.8024 but 3491.8515 3701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3491.8515 (pause 0.58) 3492.4297 3702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3492.4297 can't say it's a favorite. 3493.5395 3703 DCB_int_01 3494.3229 Mm. 3494.5141 3704 DCB_int_01 3494.5141 (pause 1.18) 3495.6926 3705 DCB_int_01 3495.6926 [What about] hand dancing? 3497.1101 3706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3495.7019 [You know.] 3495.9491 3707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3497.8655 Okay, so at age sixteen, my sister taught me how to hand dance by holding on to the door seal of the kitchen. 3504.0007 3708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3504.0007 (pause 0.79) 3504.7934 3709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3504.7934 Uh-huh. 3505.1711 3710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3505.1711 (pause 0.18) 3505.3483 3711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3505.3483 Uh-huh. 3505.6607 3712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3505.6607 (pause 0.17) 3505.8333 3713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3505.8333 I didn't have a choice but to learn how to hand dance. 3507.7684 3714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3507.7684 (pause 0.67) 3508.4387 3715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3508.4387 Didn't have a choice. 3509.1381 3716 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3509.1381 (pause 0.64) 3509.7769 3717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3509.7769 Yeah. 3509.9914 3718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3509.9914 (pause 0.98) 3510.9706 3719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3510.9706 Um, 3511.5955 3720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3511.5955 (pause 1.02) 3512.6166 3721 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3512.6166 3512.7239 3722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3512.7239 (pause 1.67) 3514.3967 3723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3514.3967 and 3515.1381 3724 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3515.1381 (pause 0.85) 3515.9914 3725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3515.9914 I've been doing it ever since. 3517.2131 3726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3517.2131 (pause 0.40) 3517.6094 3727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3517.6094 I love it. 3518.1224 3728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3518.1224 (pause 0.55) 3518.6679 3729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3518.6679 I- Now I can go to a- 3519.8103 3730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3519.8103 (pause 0.28) 3520.0890 3731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3520.0890 You know, we can go out hand dancing, or 3521.7070 3732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3521.7070 (pause 0.38) 3522.0847 3733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3522.0847 go to the- s- 3522.5743 3734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3522.5743 (pause 0.29) 3522.8634 3735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3522.8634 See and that's the thing. Because there's twelve years between us, 3525.0689 3736 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3525.0689 (pause 0.80) 3525.8663 3737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3525.8663 by the time I was turn eighteen, and I was able to actually legally go out 3529.1991 3738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3529.1991 (pause 0.12) 3529.3203 3739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3529.3203 with her, 3529.7307 3740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3529.7307 (pause 0.91) 3530.6446 3741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3530.6446 um, 3531.2508 3742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3531.2508 (pause 2.96) 3534.2059 3743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3534.2059 the majority of my friends in my early twenties 3536.7052 3744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3536.7052 (pause 0.37) 3537.0736 3745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3537.0736 that I would consider friends, 3538.2207 3746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3538.2207 (pause 0.81) 3539.0262 3747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3539.0262 were my sister's friends. 3540.0800 3748 DCB_int_01 3540.6209 Mm-mm. 3540.9893 3749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3541.5162 Because that's when she and I got really really close. I mean we were 3544.0062 3750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3544.0062 (pause 0.31) 3544.3128 3751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3544.3128 thicker than thieves, 3545.0122 3752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3545.0122 (pause 0.39) 3545.4039 3753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3545.4039 closer than close. 3546.2292 3754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3546.2292 (pause 1.09) 3547.3203 3755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3547.3203 Um, and it wasn't 3548.2623 3756 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3548.2623 (pause 0.15) 3548.4115 3757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3548.4115 out of 3548.7938 3758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3548.7938 (pause 0.90) 3549.6984 3759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3549.6984 because she had to take me, it was- At this point she enjoyed 3552.1266 3760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3552.1266 (pause 0.85) 3552.9753 3761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3552.9753 us- 3553.2691 3762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3553.2691 (pause 0.15) 3553.4183 3763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3553.4183 you know, my company. 3554.1550 3764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3554.1550 (pause 0.82) 3554.9710 3765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3554.9710 And so we would hang out together, 3556.5972 3766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3556.5972 (pause 0.10) 3556.6998 3767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3556.6998 and so 3557.1381 3768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3557.1381 (pause 0.90) 3558.0427 3769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3558.0427 I got into a oldies- 3559.4556 3770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3559.4556 (pause 0.65) 3560.1084 3771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3560.1084 m- 3560.3182 3772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3560.3182 (pause 0.43) 3560.7519 3773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3560.7519 More so I would always be the youngest one in the- 3562.6811 3774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3562.6811 (pause 0.18) 3562.8583 3775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3562.8583 You know, whenever she would go out, I'd be the youngest one in the group. 3565.3437 3776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3565.3437 (pause 0.59) 3565.9312 3777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3565.9312 But she would allow me to go along, 3567.1296 3778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3567.1296 (pause 0.45) 3567.5819 3779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3567.5819 you know. 3567.8430 3780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3567.8430 (pause 0.63) 3568.4760 3781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3568.4760 Um, 3568.9563 3782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3568.9563 (pause 0.52) 3569.4785 3783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3569.4785 so 3569.9122 3784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3569.9122 (pause 0.31) 3570.2246 3785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3570.2246 hand dancing and 3571.1851 3786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3571.1851 (pause 0.28) 3571.4696 3787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3571.4696 the bop and 3572.7285 3788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3572.7285 (pause 0.68) 3573.4047 3789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3573.4047 like all of the 3574.0715 3790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3574.0715 (pause 0.12) 3574.1869 3791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3574.1869 n- 3574.2708 3792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3574.2708 (pause 0.15) 3574.4247 3793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3574.4247 most of the music, I know it all. 3576.1453 3794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3576.1453 (pause 0.93) 3577.0732 3795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3577.0732 One I had to hear it and listen to it all the time, but 3579.3627 3796 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3579.3627 (pause 0.36) 3579.7217 3797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3579.7217 I learned appreciation for it. 3581.0262 3798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3581.0262 (pause 0.24) 3581.2687 3799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3581.2687 I can say now I have a better appreciation for 3583.7493 3800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3583.7493 (pause 0.69) 3584.4441 3801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3584.4441 music from the sixties and seventies, 3587.1810 3802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3587.1810 (pause 0.82) 3587.9961 3803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3587.9961 then I do from go go music. 3590.0757 3804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3590.0757 (pause 0.95) 3591.0223 3805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3591.0223 I just don't understand it, 3592.1088 3806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3592.1088 (pause 0.26) 3592.3687 3807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3592.3687 and 3592.6718 3808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3592.6718 (pause 0.23) 3592.9003 3809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3592.9003 I didn't take the time to 3593.8702 3810 DCB_int_01 3594.7561 [What is hand] dancing like, or bop? 3597.0456 3811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3594.7608 [really learn it.] 3595.3577 3812 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3597.6973 Ha- 3598.0097 3813 DCB_int_01 3598.0097 How do you describe it? 3598.9164 3814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3603.1762 3603.2741 3815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3603.2741 (pause 0.71) 3603.9817 3816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3603.9817 Hand dancing 3605.2733 3817 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3605.2733 (pause 2.22) 3607.4975 3818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3607.4975 is- I guess you can equate to a two step- 3610.4620 3819 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3610.4620 (pause 0.76) 3611.2267 3820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3611.2267 Of course there's more, but 3612.2665 3821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3612.2665 (pause 0.32) 3612.5883 3822 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3612.5883 to a two step 3613.4276 3823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3613.4276 (pause 0.48) 3613.9032 3824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3613.9032 with a male and a female. 3615.3627 3825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3615.3627 (pause 1.54) 3616.9050 3826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3616.9050 Um, 3617.7210 3827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3617.7210 (pause 1.03) 3618.7468 3828 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3618.7468 there's no grinding. 3619.6607 3829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3619.6607 (pause 0.76) 3620.4161 3830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3620.4161 3620.7938 3831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3620.7938 (pause 1.13) 3621.9222 3832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3621.9222 There's no 3622.5273 3833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3622.5273 (pause 0.48) 3623.0122 3834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3623.0122 lot of body 3623.7863 3835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3623.7863 (pause 0.13) 3623.9122 3836 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3623.9122 touching. 3624.4857 3837 DCB_int_01 3624.5137 Mm-hm. 3624.9007 3838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3625.9359 It's good 3626.4814 3839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3626.4814 (pause 0.33) 3626.8078 3840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3626.8078 clean 3627.3720 3841 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3627.3720 (pause 1.08) 3628.4527 3842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3628.4527 dancing. 3628.9190 3843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3628.9190 (pause 0.86) 3629.7816 3844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3629.7816 I've never had- No one's ever r- asked me that before, 3631.8519 3845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3631.8519 (pause 0.55) 3632.4021 3846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3632.4021 um, 3632.7892 3847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3632.7892 (pause 0.28) 3633.0643 3848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3633.0643 so I 3633.6123 3849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3633.6123 (pause 0.22) 3633.8372 3850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3633.8372 never really had a perspective on that. 3635.4225 3851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3635.4225 (pause 0.35) 3635.7769 3852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3635.7769 I just look at it as 3637.0033 3853 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3637.0033 (pause 0.17) 3637.1711 3854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3637.1711 uh- 3637.6794 3855 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3637.6794 (pause 1.53) 3639.2088 3856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3639.2088 It's- 3639.4699 3857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3639.4699 (pause 0.47) 3639.9351 3858 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3639.9351 It's a learned skilled 3641.6837 3859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3641.6837 (pause 0.48) 3642.1593 3860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3642.1593 dance 3642.7282 3861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3642.7282 (pause 1.58) 3644.3042 3862 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3644.3042 um, 3644.7425 3863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3644.7425 (pause 1.43) 3646.1729 3864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3646.1729 that you can actually put your own flavor to. 3648.3551 3865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3648.3551 (pause 1.05) 3649.4043 3866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3649.4043 You know, you can make it 3650.4721 3867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3650.4721 (pause 0.70) 3651.1762 3868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3651.1762 what you want it to be, 3652.2393 3869 DCB_int_01 3652.6345 Mm. 3652.8863 3870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3652.9656 but there basic steps. It's structured. 3654.8541 3871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3654.8541 (pause 0.46) 3655.3110 3872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3655.3110 It is a structured dance, 3656.4674 3873 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3656.4674 (pause 0.27) 3656.7379 3874 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3656.7379 but you can put your own little flavor to it. I guess I could say it that way. 3659.4182 3875 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3659.4182 (pause 0.38) 3659.7956 3876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3659.7956 Bop is the same thing as hand dancing, it's just a slower version. 3662.5716 3877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3662.5716 (pause 0.21) 3662.7798 3878 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3662.7798 It's slower. 3663.3151 3879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3663.3151 (pause 1.14) 3664.4573 3880 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3664.4573 Um, it's not like- 3665.3246 3881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3665.3246 (pause 0.48) 3665.8002 3882 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3665.8002 I guess back in our day we used to call it slow dragging. 3667.7096 3883 DCB_int_01 3668.3369 Mm-hm. 3668.8035 3884 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3668.9710 Yeah. 3669.2135 3885 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3669.2135 (pause 0.87) 3670.0843 3886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3670.0843 So it's not 3670.5552 3887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3670.5552 (pause 0.16) 3670.7138 3888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3670.7138 that slow, 3671.2966 3889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3671.2966 (pause 0.35) 3671.6464 3890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3671.6464 but it's a slower version, 3672.8960 3891 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3672.8960 (pause 0.61) 3673.5022 3892 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3673.5022 and it's a flow. It- It- 3674.7239 3893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3674.7239 (pause 0.16) 3674.8871 3894 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3674.8871 It has rhythm. It just- 3676.2118 3895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3676.2118 (pause 0.51) 3676.7185 3896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3676.7185 It's not like you just all over the place, all wild and just doing whatever, 3679.6188 3897 DCB_int_01 3679.9638 Mm-hm. 3680.3275 3898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3680.5887 it 3680.8218 3899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3680.8218 (pause 0.16) 3680.9850 3900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3680.9850 is- 3681.6005 3901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3681.6005 (pause 1.17) 3682.7697 3902 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3682.7697 It's like somebody s- 3683.5951 3903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3683.5951 (pause 0.15) 3683.7443 3904 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3683.7443 Whoever started it has maintained 3685.7960 3905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3685.7960 (pause 0.32) 3686.1130 3906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3686.1130 through the years. 3686.9943 3907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3686.9943 (pause 0.28) 3687.2788 3908 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3687.2788 It hasn't changed. 3688.3372 3909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3688.3372 (pause 0.69) 3689.0262 3910 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3689.0262 I don't care how much 3689.6184 3911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3689.6184 (pause 0.46) 3690.0800 3912 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3690.0800 little extra you try to put on it, 3691.3157 3913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3691.3157 (pause 0.27) 3691.5861 3914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3691.5861 the basic step 3692.4534 3915 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3692.4534 (pause 0.42) 3692.8731 3916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3692.8731 is 3693.1855 3917 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3693.1855 (pause 0.22) 3693.4082 3918 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3693.4082 the same, 3693.8197 3919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3693.8197 (pause 0.36) 3694.1776 3920 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3694.1776 so I guess it's- 3695.2500 3921 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3695.2500 (pause 0.39) 3695.6417 3922 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3695.6417 it's um- 3696.9380 3923 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3696.9380 (pause 2.71) 3699.6506 3924 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3699.6506 I don't know. I think it's- 3700.3454 3925 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3700.3454 (pause 0.12) 3700.4667 3926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3700.4667 it- 3700.5552 3927 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3700.5552 (pause 0.40) 3700.9516 3928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3700.9516 It's good exercise. 3701.8748 3929 DCB_int_01 3702.2199 [Mm-hm.] 3702.6426 3930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3702.3738 [I think] it's 3703.3437 3931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3703.8193 um, 3704.4814 3932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3704.4814 (pause 1.03) 3705.5119 3933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3705.5119 I think it's a- 3706.0761 3934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3706.0761 (pause 0.18) 3706.2568 3935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3706.2568 It's a s- 3706.6392 3936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3706.6392 (pause 0.18) 3706.8210 3937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3706.8210 It's a dance that will probably 3708.6489 3938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3708.6489 (pause 0.44) 3709.0872 3939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3709.0872 last a long time. 3710.2623 3940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3710.2623 (pause 1.13) 3711.3895 3941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3711.3895 I think they'll be doing it for years to come. 3713.0574 3942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3713.0574 (pause 1.34) 3714.4018 3943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3714.4018 You know, I know the kids nowadays- 3715.7726 3944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3715.7726 (pause 0.72) 3716.4954 3945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3716.4954 You kn- 3716.7425 3946 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3716.7425 (pause 0.22) 3716.9664 3947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3716.9664 Because 3717.2555 3948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3717.2555 (pause 0.12) 3717.3720 3949 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3717.3720 if you think about it, 3718.1694 3950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3718.1694 (pause 0.59) 3718.7558 3951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3718.7558 my generation didn't really do it a lot. 3720.6769 3952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3720.6769 (pause 0.34) 3721.0126 3953 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3721.0126 I learned it from my sister's generation. 3722.6539 3954 DCB_int_01 3722.9104 Right. 3723.1715 3955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3723.5306 The generation that's 3724.4154 3956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3724.4154 (pause 0.62) 3725.0402 3957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3725.0402 after m- me, 3725.8375 3958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3725.8375 (pause 0.15) 3725.9868 3959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3725.9868 so like, 3726.3225 3960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3726.3225 (pause 0.16) 3726.4857 3961 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3726.4857 the persons- people in their thirties and forties- late- 3728.6166 3962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3728.6166 (pause 1.16) 3729.7777 3963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3729.7777 late thirties, early forties 3730.8817 3964 DCB_int_01 3731.2873 Mm. 3731.4599 3965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3731.6417 they have now taken it 3732.8774 3966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3732.8774 (pause 0.12) 3732.9986 3967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3732.9986 on. 3733.3390 3968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3733.3390 (pause 0.75) 3734.0851 3969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3734.0851 And it's become a thing 3735.2415 3970 DCB_int_01 3735.6192 Right. 3735.8849 3971 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3736.2661 to hand dance now. 3737.2034 3972 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3737.2034 (pause 0.40) 3737.6044 3973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3737.6044 But if you sit and you watch 3738.8587 3974 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3738.8587 (pause 0.10) 3738.9566 3975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3738.9566 them do it, 3739.6468 3976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3739.6468 (pause 1.04) 3740.6912 3977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3740.6912 and you watch seasoned 3742.2720 3978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3742.2720 (pause 1.38) 3743.6510 3979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3743.6510 couples do it, 3744.3971 3980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3744.3971 (pause 0.52) 3744.9147 3981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3744.9147 you can see the difference. 3746.0991 3982 DCB_int_01 3746.8964 Hm. 3747.1902 3983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3747.5247 They're doing the basic same steps, 3749.3153 3984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3749.3153 (pause 1.50) 3750.8121 3985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3750.8121 but the younger generation, they flipping and flopping. They're doing everything but flipping you over your back and twirling you around, 3755.6930 3986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3755.6930 (pause 0.28) 3755.9728 3987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3755.9728 and all they doing a lot of turns and things like that, 3758.0431 3988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3758.0431 (pause 0.32) 3758.3648 3989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3758.3648 where you can actually see the steps 3760.4305 3990 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3760.4305 (pause 0.34) 3760.7697 3991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3760.7697 of a seasoned person. 3761.9697 3992 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3761.9697 (pause 0.74) 3762.7095 3993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3762.7095 Just like there's a difference in hand dancing in Northeast 3765.0130 3994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3765.0130 (pause 0.43) 3765.4420 3995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3765.4420 and Southeast, 3766.2906 3996 DCB_int_01 3767.4645 Mm. 3767.6930 3997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3767.6837 and they're- they're different versions. 3769.1152 3998 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3770.3182 Um, 3770.8591 3999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3770.8591 (pause 1.45) 3772.3081 4000 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3772.3081 Northeast 3772.9376 4001 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3772.9376 (pause 0.24) 3773.1801 4002 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3773.1801 hand dance, 3773.9028 4003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3773.9028 (pause 0.17) 3774.0707 4004 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3774.0707 they have a stomp in the middle of it, 3775.4276 4005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3775.4276 (pause 0.35) 3775.7773 4006 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3775.7773 some kind of the way they do a stomp. 3777.1389 4007 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3777.1389 (pause 0.24) 3777.3755 4008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3777.3755 It's the same steps, but they put a stomp in 3779.6091 4009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3779.6091 (pause 0.34) 3779.9448 4010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3779.9448 in one of their steps. 3780.8727 4011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3780.8727 (pause 0.42) 3781.2970 4012 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3781.2970 Southeast don't d- 3782.0804 4013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3782.0804 (pause 0.18) 3782.2623 4014 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3782.2623 Southeast people 3783.4595 4015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3783.4595 (pause 0.11) 3783.5714 4016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3783.5714 didn't do that. 3784.2475 4017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3784.2475 (pause 0.60) 3784.8490 4018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3784.8490 And I learned that just from being around my sister and her friends. 3787.2551 4019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3787.2551 (pause 0.56) 3787.8193 4020 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3787.8193 And you can always tell like, 3788.8358 4021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3788.8358 (pause 0.44) 3789.2788 4022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3789.2788 um, 3789.5154 4023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3789.5154 (pause 0.91) 3790.4247 4024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3790.4247 the Eclipse 3791.2127 4025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3791.2127 (pause 0.78) 3791.9961 4026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3791.9961 versus the Chateau, 3793.0359 4027 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3793.0359 (pause 1.23) 3794.2669 4028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3794.2669 they don't dance the same. 3795.3534 4029 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3795.3534 (pause 0.64) 3795.9910 4030 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3795.9910 It's the same dance, 3796.9936 4031 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3796.9936 (pause 0.39) 3797.3852 4032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3797.3852 but they don't dance it the same way. 3798.9287 4033 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3798.9287 (pause 1.04) 3799.9685 4034 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3799.9685 And you can see the difference. 3801.1342 4035 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3801.1342 (pause 0.85) 3801.9864 4036 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3801.9864 And I don't know that it's a generational thing or it's just a geographical thing. 3805.6421 4037 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3805.6421 (pause 1.55) 3807.1902 4038 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3807.1902 [That's-] 3807.3907 4039 DCB_int_01 3807.1948 [But even neighborhoods have [different] 3808.8707 4040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3808.7791 [Neighborhoods] [have different-] 3810.1360 4041 DCB_int_01 3809.3852 [the same thing.] 3810.3411 4042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3810.5650 Mm-hm. 3810.9287 4043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3810.9287 (pause 0.61) 3811.5348 4044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3811.5348 Mm-hm. 3811.7447 4045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3811.7447 (pause 1.07) 3812.8125 4046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3812.8125 It's like um, 3813.9456 4047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3813.9456 (pause 0.73) 3814.6765 4048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3814.6765 any nationality that has- 3816.1453 4049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3816.1453 (pause 0.71) 3816.8587 4050 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3816.8587 They speak the same language but they all had different dialects. 3819.5352 4051 DCB_int_01 3819.7367 Mm-hm. 3820.1576 4052 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3820.6672 It's the same thing. 3821.4039 4053 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3821.4039 (pause 0.53) 3821.9355 4054 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3821.9355 It- it- it's exactly the same thing 3823.5022 4055 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3823.5022 (pause 0.62) 3824.1270 4056 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3824.1270 in my mind. 3824.7239 4057 DCB_int_01 3825.3009 So it's so interesting that you bring it up, because you know I'm very interested in- 3828.4111 4058 DCB_int_01 3828.4111 (pause 0.51) 3828.9193 4059 DCB_int_01 3828.9193 in um, 3829.8659 4060 DCB_int_01 3829.8659 (pause 0.28) 3830.1503 4061 DCB_int_01 3830.1503 in language, and I know you don't have your glasses so I won't ask you to read for me. 3833.0868 4062 DCB_int_01 3833.0868 (pause 0.48) 3833.5671 4063 DCB_int_01 3833.5671 But I do have a question for you. 3835.2178 4064 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3835.2178 Mm-hm. 3835.5115 4065 DCB_int_01 3835.5115 Do you think people in DC talk differently than other places? 3838.5273 4066 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3838.7884 Yes. 3839.1614 4067 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3839.1614 (pause 2.44) 3841.6048 4068 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3841.6048 And the reason I say that, 3842.6399 4069 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3842.6399 (pause 0.21) 3842.8544 4070 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3842.8544 majority of the time, 3843.9129 4071 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3843.9129 (pause 0.48) 3844.3920 4072 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3844.3920 in my experience, 3845.2640 4073 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3845.2640 (pause 0.49) 3845.7536 4074 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3845.7536 if I go anywhere- 3847.0126 4075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3847.0126 (pause 3.78) 3850.7884 4076 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3850.7884 It doesn't really matter where I go. 3852.3971 4077 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3852.3971 (pause 0.97) 3853.3670 4078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3853.3670 Most people will s- tell me- 3855.3580 4079 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3855.3580 (pause 0.51) 3855.8663 4080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3855.8663 ask me where am I from. 3856.8583 4081 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3856.8583 (pause 1.15) 3858.0054 4082 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3858.0054 And I'm like, I'm from DC, and they're like, 3859.2457 4083 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3859.2457 (pause 0.48) 3859.7214 4084 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3859.7214 Are you sure? 3860.3182 4085 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3860.3182 (pause 0.18) 3860.5001 4086 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3860.5001 Y- Yes, I know where- I was born and raised in [DC.] 3862.6438 4087 DCB_int_01 3862.4760 [] 3863.2454 4088 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3864.0427 Uh, I don't split all my verbs and- 3866.7425 4089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3866.7425 (pause 0.50) 3867.2461 4090 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3867.2461 But 3867.5072 4091 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3867.5072 (pause 0.35) 3867.8558 4092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3867.8558 I think it's a stereotype. 3869.0495 4093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3869.0495 (pause 1.14) 3870.1873 4094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3870.1873 I don't 3870.4950 4095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3870.4950 (pause 0.13) 3870.6256 4096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3870.6256 speak with a lot of slang. 3871.8006 4097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3871.8006 (pause 1.02) 3872.8218 4098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3872.8218 Um, 3873.2555 4099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3873.2555 (pause 4.55) 3877.8053 4100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3877.8053 I'm not sure what people expect, 3879.8523 4101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3879.8523 (pause 1.40) 3881.2500 4102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3881.2500 but I get that more so, especially from people 3884.0617 4103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3884.0617 (pause 0.28) 3884.3415 4104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3884.3415 who live 3884.8171 4105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3884.8171 (pause 0.41) 3885.2228 4106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3885.2228 and are from 3885.8663 4107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3885.8663 (pause 0.42) 3886.2848 4108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3886.2848 DC. 3886.7931 4109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3886.7931 (pause 0.38) 3887.1708 4110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3887.1708 They'll ask me, 3887.8189 4111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3887.8189 (pause 0.19) 3888.0101 4112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3888.0101 Where are you from? 3888.8494 4113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3888.8494 (pause 0.99) 3889.8379 4114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3889.8379 And I'm- I was born in Washington DC in Southeast. 3893.1008 4115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3893.1008 (pause 0.44) 3893.5391 4116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3893.5391 And that's- 3893.9728 4117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3893.9728 (pause 0.30) 3894.2759 4118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3894.2759 that stops it right there. 3895.3017 4119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3895.3017 (pause 0.32) 3895.6188 4120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3895.6188 I- 3895.8426 4121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3895.8426 (pause 0.25) 3896.0944 4122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3896.0944 I'm from Southeast. 3897.1482 4123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3897.1482 (pause 0.75) 3897.8978 4124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3897.8978 I'm not someone from /Souffeast/ (atypical pronunciation). 3899.0588 4125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3899.0588 (pause 0.25) 3899.3106 4126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3899.3106 There's a difference. 3900.0660 4127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3900.0660 (pause 0.38) 3900.4437 4128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3900.4437 There's a /Souffeast/ (atypical pronunciation). 3901.2364 4129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3901.2364 (pause 1.54) 3902.7798 4130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3902.7798 And I'm from Southeast. And I've always- 3904.7091 4131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3904.7091 (pause 1.03) 3905.7350 4132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3905.7350 that's- that's- 3906.3225 4133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3906.3225 (pause 1.13) 3907.4509 4134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3907.4509 that's only thing I know. 3908.2669 4135 DCB_int_01 3908.6769 Mm-hm. 3909.2007 4136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3909.9456 So 3910.8583 4137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3910.8583 (pause 0.78) 3911.6370 4138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3911.6370 I get 3912.1220 4139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3912.1220 (pause 0.14) 3912.2619 4140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3912.2619 the different- 3912.8587 4141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3912.8587 (pause 0.24) 3913.1012 4142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3913.1012 and- and if I'm out of- 3914.1550 4143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3914.1550 (pause 1.18) 3915.3394 4144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3915.3394 If I'm in New York, 3916.2941 4145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3916.2941 (pause 0.42) 3916.7185 4146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3916.7185 and they'll ask, Well where you from? I'm from 3918.2805 4147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3918.2805 (pause 0.40) 3918.6769 4148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3918.6769 DC. 3919.0406 4149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3919.0406 (pause 0.81) 3919.8519 4150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3919.8519 And 3920.0757 4151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3920.0757 (pause 0.50) 3920.5793 4152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3920.5793 I just recently started saying DC in the last maybe ten years. Normally, I'd say, I'm from Washington, 3924.5836 4153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3924.5836 (pause 0.52) 3925.1012 4154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3925.1012 DC. 3925.5115 4155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3925.5115 (pause 0.91) 3926.4255 4156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3926.4255 And then I just 3927.0456 4157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3927.0456 (pause 0.19) 3927.2321 4158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3927.2321 dropped the Washington cause that just sounds so formal, 3929.3895 4159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3929.3895 (pause 0.40) 3929.7909 4160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3929.7909 and I would just say, I'm from DC. And they're like, Well what area? And I say, Southeast. They're like, 3933.1342 4161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3933.1342 (pause 0.32) 3933.4513 4162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3933.4513 Oh you're from /Souffeast/? No, not /Souffeast/, (atypical pronunciation) 3935.5857 4163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3935.5857 (pause 0.31) 3935.8982 4164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3935.8982 Southeast. 3936.5463 4165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3936.5463 (pause 0.17) 3936.7188 4166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3936.7188 There's a difference 3937.6001 4167 DCB_int_01 3937.7112 Mm. 3938.0527 4168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3938.0711 in my mind. 3938.6306 4169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3938.6306 (pause 0.76) 3939.3953 4170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3939.3953 [Because-] 3939.7404 4171 DCB_int_01 3939.4047 [What's that] difference? 3940.3314 4172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3941.7210 One block this way from my parents was the projects, Simple City. 3945.1762 4173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3945.1762 (pause 2.55) 3947.7303 4174 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3947.7303 3947.8422 4175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3947.8422 (pause 1.33) 3949.1711 4176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3949.1711 Two blocks or 3950.0244 4177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3950.0244 (pause 0.49) 3950.5141 4178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3950.5141 a few blocks away was 3951.7124 4179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3951.7124 (pause 0.14) 3951.8523 4180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3951.8523 East Gate 3952.4305 4181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3952.4305 (pause 0.48) 3952.9143 4182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3952.9143 and that whole area. 3953.8422 4183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3953.8422 (pause 1.29) 3955.1338 4184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3955.1338 I wasn't allowed to really hang out or go around there much. I would sneak, 3958.2906 4185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3958.2906 (pause 0.30) 3958.5926 4186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3958.5926 ride my bike, ride through and come back home, but 3960.4857 4187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3960.4857 (pause 0.21) 3960.6909 4188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3960.6909 you wouldn't- 3961.1152 4189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3961.1152 (pause 0.60) 3961.7120 4190 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3961.7120 You could never catch me there. 3962.8964 4191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3962.8964 (pause 0.53) 3963.4233 4192 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3963.4233 You know, I- 3963.9036 4193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3963.9036 (pause 0.48) 3964.3874 4194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3964.3874 And it was only in the daytime, 3965.5158 4195 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3965.5158 (pause 0.11) 3965.6277 4196 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3965.6277 truly. 3966.0940 4197 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3966.0940 (pause 2.21) 3968.2996 4198 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3968.2996 But it was a difference- 3969.4187 4199 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3969.4187 (pause 0.20) 3969.6145 4200 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3969.6145 the- the- 3970.0854 4201 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3970.0854 (pause 0.33) 3970.4200 4202 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3970.4200 the 3970.5832 4203 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3970.5832 (pause 0.27) 3970.8537 4204 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3970.8537 two block radius 3971.9588 4205 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3971.9588 (pause 0.25) 3972.2059 4206 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3972.2059 that I grew up in 3972.9660 4207 DCB_int_01 3973.3670 Mm-hm. 3973.7447 4208 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3975.4606 everyone was pretty much on the same level. 3977.0682 4209 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3977.0682 (pause 1.38) 3978.4484 4210 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3978.4484 Um, 3978.8960 4211 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3978.8960 (pause 1.20) 3980.0944 4212 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3980.0944 I would say 3980.7052 4213 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3980.7052 (pause 1.11) 3981.8185 4214 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3981.8185 probably educationally, 3983.1941 4215 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3983.1941 (pause 0.95) 3984.1406 4216 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3984.1406 financially- 3984.9193 4217 DCB_int_01 3985.1352 Mm-hm. 3985.5842 4218 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3985.6468 the structures, it was family structured. Not saying that- 3987.8896 4219 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3987.8896 (pause 0.34) 3988.2335 4220 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3988.2335 I'm not saying by any means the projects don't have family structures, by m- I'm not saying that at all. 3991.8100 4221 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3991.8100 (pause 0.42) 3992.2296 4222 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3992.2296 It was just different. 3993.3336 4223 DCB_int_01 3993.4623 Mm-hm. 3993.7392 4224 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3993.7392 It was just different. 3994.4900 4225 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3995.2500 And 3995.8189 4226 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3995.8189 (pause 1.76) 3997.5815 4227 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3997.5815 I don't believe we were raised to think we were better, 3999.8337 4228 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 3999.8337 (pause 1.38) 4001.2127 4229 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4001.2127 cause I truly don't think I'm- 4002.2059 4230 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4002.2059 (pause 0.90) 4003.1105 4231 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4003.1105 I'm better cause I choose to be better, 4004.8405 4232 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4004.8405 (pause 0.20) 4005.0363 4233 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4005.0363 not because of stature or anything like that. 4007.2966 4234 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4007.2966 (pause 0.28) 4007.5764 4235 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4007.5764 I choose to be better for myself, 4009.1432 4236 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4009.1432 (pause 0.57) 4009.7120 4237 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4009.7120 but 4009.9452 4238 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4009.9452 (pause 0.15) 4010.0991 4239 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4010.0991 it was just different growing up. 4012.1554 4240 DCB_int_01 4012.8295 Mm-hm. 4013.1101 4241 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4013.1894 And you knew 4014.1266 4242 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4014.1266 (pause 0.19) 4014.3178 4243 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4014.3178 that 4014.5416 4244 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4014.5416 (pause 0.32) 4014.8634 4245 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4014.8634 there was 4015.2364 4246 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4015.2364 (pause 0.25) 4015.4836 4247 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4015.4836 a line, 4016.1550 4248 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4016.1550 (pause 0.69) 4016.8405 4249 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4016.8405 this invisible line, 4018.0015 4250 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4018.0015 (pause 1.02) 4019.0262 4251 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4019.0262 of the projects 4020.0054 4252 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4020.0054 (pause 0.86) 4020.8634 4253 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4020.8634 because that's what they were called. 4021.8706 4254 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4021.8706 (pause 0.21) 4022.0757 4255 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4022.0757 They were called projects. 4023.1062 4256 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4023.1062 (pause 0.68) 4023.7859 4257 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4023.7859 Um, it wasn't a label that I've chosen to give it, that's just what it was called. 4027.1012 4258 DCB_int_01 4026.4340 [It was called-Mm-hm.] 4027.3903 4259 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4027.3203 Yeah. 4027.5395 4260 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4027.9032 Simple C- 4028.4021 4261 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4028.4021 (pause 0.10) 4028.5001 4262 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4028.5001 Actually it was called Simple City, 4029.6238 4263 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4029.6238 (pause 1.51) 4031.1381 4264 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4031.1381 um, 4031.6464 4265 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4031.6464 (pause 0.48) 4032.1220 4266 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4032.1220 and that's what you were referred to. 4033.4136 4267 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4033.4136 (pause 0.76) 4034.1690 4268 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4034.1690 But 4034.4674 4269 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4034.4674 (pause 2.81) 4037.2733 4270 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4037.2733 this wall- 4038.0474 4271 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4038.0474 (pause 0.30) 4038.3458 4272 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4038.3458 There was a wall there. 4039.3623 4273 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4039.3623 (pause 1.06) 4040.4208 4274 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4040.4208 There was this invisible wall. 4041.4886 4275 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4041.4886 (pause 1.04) 4042.5319 4276 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4042.5319 And 4043.1754 4277 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4043.1754 (pause 1.21) 4044.3831 4278 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4044.3831 if I look back now on- 4046.4954 4279 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4046.4954 (pause 0.48) 4046.9803 4280 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4046.9803 I had- 4047.2788 4281 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4047.2788 (pause 0.17) 4047.4501 4282 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4047.4501 uh, 4047.5714 4283 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4047.5714 (pause 0.20) 4047.7672 4284 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4047.7672 several friends 4048.7278 4285 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4048.7278 (pause 0.28) 4049.0122 4286 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4049.0122 that I went to school with 4050.1500 4287 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4050.1500 (pause 0.55) 4050.6955 4288 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4050.6955 that to this day I still 4052.0431 4289 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4052.0431 (pause 0.18) 4052.2250 4290 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4052.2250 communicate with and- 4053.2415 4291 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4053.2415 (pause 0.61) 4053.8465 4292 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4053.8465 and they- 4054.1776 4293 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4054.1776 (pause 0.18) 4054.3594 4294 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4054.3594 they grew up 4054.8490 4295 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4054.8490 (pause 0.45) 4055.2966 4296 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4055.2966 in Simple City. 4056.1220 4297 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4056.1220 (pause 0.57) 4056.6955 4298 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4056.6955 But I never saw them as anything different. 4058.6539 4299 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4058.6539 (pause 0.34) 4058.9943 4300 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4058.9943 It was just a stigma. It was a- 4060.2009 4301 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4060.2009 (pause 0.17) 4060.3687 4302 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4060.3687 At the time, 4061.1334 4303 DCB_int_01 4061.5951 Mm-hm. 4061.9215 4304 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4061.9448 that was just- 4062.5043 4305 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4062.5043 (pause 0.25) 4062.7515 4306 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4062.7515 that was just kind of like a- 4063.9732 4307 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4063.9732 (pause 0.96) 4064.9290 4308 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4064.9290 I wanna say a generational kind of a- 4066.7604 4309 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4066.7604 (pause 0.41) 4067.1754 4310 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4067.1754 not- 4067.3713 4311 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4067.3713 (pause 0.89) 4068.2572 4312 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4068.2572 It was like a generational gap. 4069.4836 4313 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4069.4836 (pause 1.39) 4070.8778 4314 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4070.8778 It was a- It was 4071.6518 4315 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4071.6518 (pause 0.12) 4071.7730 4316 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4071.7730 a- 4072.2813 4317 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4072.2813 (pause 1.58) 4073.8655 4318 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4073.8655 I don't wanna- You can't call it a neighborhood gap cause that is- that's not necessarily 4077.1529 4319 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4077.1529 (pause 0.83) 4077.9782 4320 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4077.9782 accurate. 4078.4165 4321 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4078.4165 (pause 0.47) 4078.8863 4322 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4078.8863 But it was just- 4079.5997 4323 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4079.5997 (pause 0.23) 4079.8282 4324 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4079.8282 Because if you- 4080.4111 4325 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4080.4111 (pause 0.35) 4080.7608 4326 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4080.7608 Really, 4081.1665 4327 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4081.1665 (pause 0.08) 4081.2457 4328 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4081.2457 they- 4081.7400 4329 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4081.7400 (pause 0.62) 4082.3555 4330 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4082.3555 The people that lived in Simple City 4083.6052 4331 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4083.6052 (pause 0.43) 4084.0342 4332 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4084.0342 didn't- 4084.2906 4333 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4084.2906 (pause 0.30) 4084.5926 4334 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4084.5926 did not come 4085.3666 4335 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4085.3666 (pause 0.36) 4085.7256 4336 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4085.7256 in our neighborhood 4086.5043 4337 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4086.5043 (pause 0.63) 4087.1338 4338 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4087.1338 much at all. 4087.7680 4339 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4087.7680 (pause 1.15) 4088.9197 4340 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4088.9197 So you didn't see- 4089.5772 4341 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4089.5772 (pause 0.24) 4089.8185 4342 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4089.8185 So it was kind of like, 4090.4480 4343 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4090.4480 (pause 0.20) 4090.6485 4344 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4090.6485 everybody knew- 4091.3200 4345 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4091.3200 (pause 0.19) 4091.5140 4346 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4091.5140 everybody s- It's like- like when people talk about the- 4093.3931 4347 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4093.3931 (pause 0.21) 4093.6030 4348 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4093.6030 the d- railroad tracks. 4094.5216 4349 DCB_int_01 4094.6381 Mm. 4094.8666 4350 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4095.1697 It was kind of like a divider. 4096.3028 4351 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4096.3028 (pause 1.00) 4097.3042 4352 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4097.3042 You stayed over here. We stayed over here. 4099.0481 4353 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4099.0481 (pause 0.58) 4099.6263 4354 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4099.6263 Now we all went to school together, 4101.1044 4355 DCB_int_01 4101.3749 Right. 4101.5614 4356 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4101.8260 okay? 4102.1396 4357 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4102.1396 (pause 0.48) 4102.6187 4358 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4102.6187 But when you got off the school bus, 4104.1761 4359 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4104.1761 (pause 0.54) 4104.7124 4360 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4104.7124 you went this way, and we would go this way. 4107.1557 4361 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4107.1557 (pause 1.55) 4108.7073 4362 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4108.7073 So- and- 4109.2435 4363 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4109.2435 (pause 0.55) 4109.7891 4364 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4109.7891 and 4110.0549 4365 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4110.0549 (pause 1.14) 4111.1926 4366 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4111.1926 I find that 4112.1579 4367 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4112.1579 (pause 0.24) 4112.3957 4368 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4112.3957 um- I had an opportunity to 4113.9764 4369 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4113.9764 (pause 0.77) 4114.7446 4370 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4114.7446 um, 4115.0850 4371 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4115.0850 (pause 0.61) 4115.6912 4372 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4115.6912 through my dance, 4116.3300 4373 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4116.3300 (pause 0.48) 4116.8103 4374 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4116.8103 hang out with some people and get to know people from- that went to Roosevelt. 4119.9811 4375 DCB_int_01 4120.3856 Mm-hm. 4120.6560 4376 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4121.5839 And that was interesting because their whole lifestyle was totally different from mine. 4126.1769 4377 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4126.1769 (pause 1.00) 4127.1736 4378 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4127.1736 And it was from a perspective of- 4128.5631 4379 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4128.5631 (pause 0.68) 4129.2393 4380 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4129.2393 Well, 4129.5517 4381 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4129.5517 (pause 0.41) 4129.9574 4382 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4129.9574 they can stay out all h- all hours of the night, 4132.2748 4383 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4132.2748 (pause 1.16) 4133.4394 4384 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4133.4394 you know. There was a little gentleman that, 4134.7963 4385 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4134.7963 (pause 0.18) 4134.9735 4386 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4134.9735 I'll never forget, 4135.5424 4387 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4135.5424 (pause 0.72) 4136.2604 4388 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4136.2604 um, 4136.5356 4389 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4136.5356 (pause 0.18) 4136.7174 4390 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4136.7174 wanted to date me, 4137.4914 4391 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4137.4914 (pause 1.23) 4138.7213 4392 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4138.7213 4138.8192 4393 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4138.8192 (pause 0.27) 4139.0850 4394 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4139.0850 and he would 4139.4254 4395 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4139.4254 (pause 1.14) 4140.5678 4396 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4140.5678 drive. His parents would let him have a car or 4142.9599 4397 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4142.9599 (pause 1.09) 4144.0510 4398 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4144.0510 parent 4144.3867 4399 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4144.3867 (pause 0.14) 4144.5301 4400 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4144.5301 would let him have a car, and he would drive 4146.1761 4401 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4146.1761 (pause 0.46) 4146.6331 4402 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4146.6331 to my house. Well, 4147.5330 4403 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4147.5330 (pause 0.09) 4147.6263 4404 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4147.6263 I couldn't have company. 4148.6008 4405 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4148.6008 (pause 0.65) 4149.2536 4406 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4149.2536 And I was seventeen. 4149.9857 4407 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4149.9857 (pause 0.13) 4150.1151 4408 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4150.1151 You weren't coming in my house. 4151.2715 4409 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4151.2715 (pause 0.67) 4151.9383 4410 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4151.9383 My father didn't play that. 4153.1367 4411 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4153.1367 (pause 0.69) 4153.8315 4412 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4153.8315 And so he would come over, and 4155.4541 4413 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4155.4541 (pause 0.94) 4156.3960 4414 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4156.3960 we could sit out on the front porch, 4157.6679 4415 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4157.6679 (pause 0.45) 4158.1155 4416 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4158.1155 but about nine thirty, 4159.1180 4417 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4159.1180 (pause 0.95) 4160.0646 4418 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4160.0646 you got to go. 4160.7594 4419 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4160.7594 (pause 0.21) 4160.9645 4420 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4160.9645 [] 4161.6546 4421 DCB_int_01 4161.1184 [Mm-hm.] 4161.7805 4422 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4162.0323 4162.1676 4423 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4162.1676 (pause 0.26) 4162.4275 4424 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4162.4275 That's- that's the end of your visit. 4163.8963 4425 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4163.8963 (pause 0.89) 4164.7870 4426 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4164.7870 And I was only allowed to come to the door. 4166.5076 4427 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4166.5076 (pause 1.12) 4167.6302 4428 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4167.6302 I could stand in the door. I don't care how freezing cold it was, 4170.3720 4429 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4170.3720 (pause 0.35) 4170.7170 4430 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4170.7170 but you were not coming in the house. 4172.0786 4431 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4172.0786 (pause 0.08) 4172.1579 4432 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4172.1579 My father didn't allow that. 4173.2723 4433 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4173.2723 (pause 1.77) 4175.0384 4434 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4175.0384 That's why I call it like a generational kind of 4177.1413 4435 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4177.1413 (pause 0.11) 4177.2533 4436 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4177.2533 thing because 4178.1532 4437 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4178.1532 (pause 0.90) 4179.0485 4438 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4179.0485 he just- he was not- 4180.6478 4439 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4180.6478 (pause 0.18) 4180.8285 4440 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4180.8285 he wasn't for all that. 4181.9010 4441 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4181.9010 (pause 0.77) 4182.6704 4442 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4182.6704 And if he didn't know your parents, 4184.0320 4443 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4184.0320 (pause 1.19) 4185.2210 4444 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4185.2210 that wasn't happening. 4185.9111 4445 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4185.9111 (pause 1.49) 4187.4021 4446 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4187.4021 That- No. 4188.0595 4447 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4188.0595 (pause 0.90) 4188.9548 4448 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4188.9548 That's not gonna happen. 4189.6170 4449 DCB_int_01 4190.1718 So you didn't end up dating this boy? 4191.6313 4450 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4192.5219 Not what you call- /Well/, 4193.3834 4451 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4193.3834 (pause 0.27) 4193.6539 4452 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4193.6539 see? 4193.9803 4453 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4193.9803 (pause 0.41) 4194.3860 4454 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4194.3860 What do- What do- 4194.8662 4455 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4194.8662 (pause 0.12) 4194.9875 4456 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4194.9875 What's dating? 4195.6528 4457 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4195.6528 (pause 0.92) 4196.5729 4458 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4196.5729 Uh, we could talk on telephone til nine o'clock. 4198.8670 4459 DCB_int_01 4198.8379 4199.7658 4460 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4200.4839 4200.7124 4461 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4200.7124 (pause 0.13) 4200.8383 4462 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4200.8383 And I had my own phone. 4201.6776 4463 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4201.6776 (pause 1.01) 4202.6894 4464 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4202.6894 I got my own phone when I was thirteen 4203.8645 4465 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4203.8645 (pause 0.75) 4204.6140 4466 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4204.6140 with my own phone line and everything. 4206.3953 4467 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4206.3953 (pause 0.40) 4206.7916 4468 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4206.7916 Uh-huh. 4207.1087 4469 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4207.1087 (pause 1.21) 4208.3164 4470 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4208.3164 But 4208.9039 4471 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4208.9039 (pause 0.52) 4209.4262 4472 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4209.4262 you know, 4209.7619 4473 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4209.7619 (pause 0.18) 4209.9437 4474 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4209.9437 and 4210.3587 4475 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4210.3587 (pause 0.12) 4210.4788 4476 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4210.4788 back in those days, you know, you didn't close your door, your bedroom door. 4213.0248 4477 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4213.0248 (pause 0.66) 4213.6869 4478 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4213.6869 All- Everybody's bedroom door stayed open. 4215.1930 4479 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4215.1930 (pause 0.93) 4216.1209 4480 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4216.1209 So you couldn't hide. 4216.9731 4481 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4216.9731 (pause 1.46) 4218.4372 4482 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4218.4372 Um, 4218.9175 4483 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4218.9175 (pause 0.10) 4219.0201 4484 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4219.0201 dating for me was- 4220.5542 4485 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4220.5542 (pause 1.00) 4221.5567 4486 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4221.5567 I didn't really date. 4222.2422 4487 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4222.2422 (pause 1.47) 4223.7098 4488 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4223.7098 Dating for me I sat on the front porch or the front steps in front of the house 4227.1884 4489 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4227.1884 (pause 0.56) 4227.7479 4490 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4227.7479 until- 4228.4240 4491 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4228.4240 (pause 1.21) 4229.6306 4492 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4229.6306 Summertime, I might got to stay out til ten, 4231.8594 4493 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4231.8594 (pause 0.69) 4232.5495 4494 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4232.5495 maybe. 4233.0112 4495 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4233.0112 (pause 0.42) 4233.4355 4496 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4233.4355 But I better not be off those steps. 4235.0283 4497 DCB_int_01 4235.1262 Mm. 4235.4676 4498 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4235.9710 That was it. 4236.2974 4499 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4236.2974 (pause 0.39) 4236.6890 4500 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4236.6890 That was a date. 4237.1087 4501 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4237.1087 (pause 0.34) 4237.4491 4502 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4237.4491 Mm-hm. 4237.6356 4503 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4237.6356 (pause 0.89) 4238.5216 4504 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4238.5216 I got a chance to go to the movies maybe three or four times, and that was with my- 4241.9336 4505 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4241.9336 (pause 0.34) 4242.2740 4506 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4242.2740 my daughter's father 4243.1833 4507 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4243.1833 (pause 0.41) 4243.5983 4508 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4243.5983 cause I was fourteen. He was seventeen. 4245.2956 4509 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4245.2956 (pause 0.64) 4245.9391 4510 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4245.9391 But our parents got a chance to meet each other. 4247.8684 4511 DCB_int_01 4248.6278 Mm-hm. 4249.1049 4512 DCB_int_01 4249.1049 (pause 0.28) 4249.3885 4513 DCB_int_01 4249.3885 So it kind of [/soothed/.] 4250.7221 4514 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4250.0506 [So it was] m- Yeah. 4251.1417 4515 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4251.7059 But he still wasn't allowed in the house 4253.0990 4516 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4253.0990 (pause 0.28) 4253.3788 4517 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4253.3788 until I was probably about 4254.2134 4518 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4254.2134 (pause 0.50) 4254.7170 4519 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4254.7170 eighteen. 4255.1227 4520 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4255.1227 (pause 0.87) 4255.9900 4521 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4255.9900 Then he was a- He was allowed in the house then. 4257.4075 4522 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4257.4075 (pause 0.51) 4257.9204 4523 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4257.9204 Cause by that time they 4258.6991 4524 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4258.6991 (pause 0.19) 4258.8845 4525 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4258.8845 realized this boy is- 4259.6958 4526 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4259.6958 (pause 0.48) 4260.1761 4527 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4260.1761 He's not going away. He's here every day. 4262.5915 4528 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4262.5915 (pause 0.71) 4263.3003 4529 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4263.3003 And he was actually 4264.3529 4530 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4264.3529 (pause 0.18) 4264.5348 4531 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4264.5348 um, at Howard. 4265.3974 4532 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4265.3974 (pause 1.00) 4266.3999 4533 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4266.3999 I was at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, he was at Howard. Mm-hm. 4268.4050 4534 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4268.4050 (pause 1.46) 4269.8633 4535 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4269.8633 So that was the only saving grace cause they thought he had some potential. 4272.4233 4536 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4272.4233 (pause 0.37) 4272.7916 4537 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4272.7916 [] 4273.4538 4538 DCB_int_01 4273.0154 [Cause he] was in college. 4273.9807 4539 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4273.9760 Cause he was in college. 4274.8060 4540 DCB_int_01 4275.1464 [Otherwise-] Oh, okay. 4276.2049 4541 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4275.2117 [Yeah.] 4275.4821 4542 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4276.4194 And he- 4276.7271 4543 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4276.7271 (pause 0.14) 4276.8705 4544 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4276.8705 And- And he was Catholic, 4278.1994 4545 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4278.1994 (pause 0.12) 4278.3160 4546 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4278.3160 and went to Queen of Peace, 4279.5936 4547 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4279.5936 (pause 0.33) 4279.9200 4548 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4279.9200 which was a neighborhood 4280.7034 4549 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4280.7034 (pause 0.15) 4280.8526 4550 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4280.8526 Catholic church. 4281.5241 4551 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4281.5241 (pause 0.16) 4281.6826 4552 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4281.6826 So 4282.2142 4553 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4282.2142 (pause 0.40) 4282.6140 4554 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4282.6140 /on/ Catholic school, so y- yeah, he's 4284.3999 4555 DCB_int_01 4284.6984 He was [pretty good.] 4285.4130 4556 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4284.9455 [He- he- Yeah], [he went- He went to- Yeah], he went to Carroll. 4287.1464 4557 DCB_int_01 4285.5657 [So what did you do at your dad's house?] 4286.5635 4558 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4287.6919 Uh-huh, how little did they know, but yeah. 4289.2902 4559 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4289.2902 (pause 0.15) 4289.4394 4560 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4289.4394 4290.9175 4561 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4290.9175 (pause 0.44) 4291.3605 4562 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4291.3605 Little did they know. 4292.3630 4563 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4292.3630 (pause 0.69) 4293.0531 4564 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4293.0531 Um, 4293.4588 4565 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4293.4588 (pause 0.54) 4293.9950 4566 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4293.9950 But I didn't get a chance- 4295.0151 4567 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4295.0151 (pause 0.62) 4295.6352 4568 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4295.6352 I- I don't have any- 4296.9968 4569 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4296.9968 (pause 1.65) 4298.6475 4570 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4298.6475 me- no memories of hanging out, 4300.4660 4571 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4300.4660 (pause 0.87) 4301.3321 4572 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4301.3321 4301.4254 4573 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4301.4254 (pause 0.34) 4301.7658 4574 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4301.7658 no memories of staying out past midnight. 4304.1532 4575 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4304.1532 (pause 2.68) 4306.8379 4576 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4306.8379 No memories of going to all the parties. 4308.8849 4577 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4308.8849 (pause 0.33) 4309.2113 4578 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4309.2113 That's why I don't party now, 4310.4236 4579 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4310.4236 (pause 0.57) 4310.9925 4580 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4310.9925 [you know.] 4311.3795 4581 DCB_int_01 4310.9972 [It's okay.] 4311.6080 4582 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4312.0603 And I'm okay with it! 4312.8250 4583 DCB_int_01 4312.9265 I love being at home. 4313.9383 4584 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4314.2321 You know, I- I've- 4315.1786 4585 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4315.1786 (pause 1.85) 4317.0251 4586 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4317.0251 I look at my daughter now, 4318.6385 4587 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4318.6385 (pause 0.85) 4319.4860 4588 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4319.4860 and she goes out- And we have a rule, 4321.2113 4589 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4321.2113 (pause 0.48) 4321.6962 4590 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4321.6962 if you not coming in, you call. 4323.1977 4591 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4323.1977 (pause 0.60) 4323.7992 4592 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4323.7992 You know. 4324.1862 4593 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4324.1862 (pause 0.83) 4325.0151 4594 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4325.0151 Or 4325.5140 4595 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4325.5140 (pause 0.14) 4325.6492 4596 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4325.6492 um, 4326.2600 4597 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4326.2600 (pause 1.60) 4327.8641 4598 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4327.8641 especially when she 4328.5915 4599 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4328.5915 (pause 0.10) 4328.6941 4600 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4328.6941 went away to college and came back home. 4330.1629 4601 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4330.1629 (pause 0.43) 4330.5965 4602 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4330.5965 And I realize you're out on your own, so I, 4331.9383 4603 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4331.9383 (pause 0.16) 4332.0968 4604 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4332.0968 you know- 4332.4279 4605 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4332.4279 (pause 0.73) 4333.1553 4606 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4333.1553 I'm not gonna go back into mommy mode, but 4334.7873 4607 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4334.7873 (pause 0.48) 4335.2630 4608 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4335.2630 you still have to respect my house. 4336.5639 4609 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4336.5639 (pause 0.49) 4337.0570 4610 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4337.0570 So 4337.6492 4611 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4337.6492 (pause 0.53) 4338.1808 4612 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4338.1808 I sit back sometimes, and I think about the things that she's had an opportunity to do 4342.5266 4613 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4342.5266 (pause 0.60) 4343.1223 4614 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4343.1223 that I never even would think of. 4345.5237 4615 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4345.5237 (pause 1.67) 4347.1930 4616 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4347.1930 Never even thought- 4348.4800 4617 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4348.4800 (pause 0.50) 4348.9824 4618 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4348.9824 couldn't even imagine. 4349.8758 4619 DCB_int_01 4350.1434 Mm-hm. 4350.6766 4620 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4351.1227 Going away? 4351.7055 4621 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4351.7055 (pause 0.30) 4352.0086 4622 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4352.0086 Are you kidding me? 4352.6335 4623 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4352.6335 (pause 0.44) 4353.0764 4624 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4353.0764 All night long? 4353.7199 4625 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4353.7199 (pause 0.14) 4353.8598 4626 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4353.8598 Are you serious? 4354.5441 4627 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4354.5441 (pause 0.51) 4355.0524 4628 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4355.0524 Spending the night somewhere else? Somebody else's home? 4357.1177 4629 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4357.1177 (pause 1.50) 4358.6195 4630 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4358.6195 Let alone let it be a male? 4359.9064 4631 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4359.9064 (pause 0.64) 4360.5488 4632 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4360.5488 Oh my God. 4361.2575 4633 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4361.2575 (pause 0.48) 4361.7378 4634 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4361.7378 No. 4362.1668 4635 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4362.1668 (pause 1.30) 4363.4677 4636 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4363.4677 Mm-mm. 4363.9946 4637 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4363.9946 (pause 0.40) 4364.3957 4638 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4364.3957 I think the 4364.7640 4639 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4364.7640 (pause 0.27) 4365.0298 4640 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4365.0298 first time I spent the night 4366.4473 4641 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4366.4473 (pause 3.02) 4369.4631 4642 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4369.4631 I was living in my townhouse, so I was over twenty six. 4372.6478 4643 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4372.6478 (pause 0.77) 4373.4161 4644 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4373.4161 Being married, separated, and divorced with a child 4375.7522 4645 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4375.7522 (pause 0.54) 4376.2884 4646 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4376.2884 was the first time I e- ever spent a night at a man's house, 4378.9544 4647 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4378.9544 (pause 1.10) 4380.0502 4648 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4380.0502 that was not my- Yeah. 4380.9921 4649 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4380.9921 (pause 0.16) 4381.1507 4650 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4381.1507 That wasn't my house- So I didn't- 4382.4563 4651 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4382.4563 (pause 1.18) 4383.6313 4652 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4383.6313 Very sheltered. 4384.2655 4653 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4384.2655 (pause 0.09) 4384.3529 4654 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4384.3529 4385.5513 4655 DCB_int_01 4386.0968 Um, 4386.4139 4656 DCB_int_01 4386.4139 (pause 0.17) 4386.5818 4657 DCB_int_01 4386.5818 couple more [/and then I'll go/.] 4387.6449 4658 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4386.9641 [Whatcha got?] 4387.3605 4659 DCB_int_01 4388.4703 Um, 4389.5023 4660 DCB_int_01 4389.5023 (pause 0.20) 4389.7013 4661 DCB_int_01 4389.7013 we talked about restaurants. Are there any restaurants in DC that like, really stand out to you? 4393.5097 4662 DCB_int_01 4393.5097 (pause 0.28) 4393.7941 4663 DCB_int_01 4393.7941 Or even around the area, like the harbor or- 4396.0976 4664 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4398.3440 Um, 4399.1786 4665 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4399.1786 (pause 2.88) 4402.0592 4666 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4402.0592 4402.1536 4667 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4402.1536 (pause 0.58) 4402.7306 4668 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4402.7306 one of my favorites, 4404.5025 4669 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4404.5025 (pause 1.60) 4406.1066 4670 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4406.1066 I would have to say, would be Legal Seafood downtown on Seventh Street. 4409.2016 4671 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4409.2016 (pause 0.95) 4410.1528 4672 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4410.1528 I think that's Legal Seafood on Seventh Street, yeah. 4412.0553 4673 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4412.0553 (pause 0.81) 4412.8666 4674 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4412.8666 Um, 4413.4355 4675 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4413.4355 (pause 1.64) 4415.0803 4676 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4415.0803 4415.1829 4677 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4415.1829 (pause 0.60) 4415.7798 4678 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4415.7798 Oceanaire. 4416.3999 4679 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4416.3999 (pause 0.72) 4417.1180 4680 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4417.1180 I think that's what- F Street? 4418.2558 4681 DCB_int_01 4419.2023 It's a popular one. 4420.1489 4682 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4420.1431 Yeah. 4420.6374 4683 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4420.8099 That's one of my favorites. 4421.9290 4684 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4421.9290 (pause 0.85) 4422.7776 4685 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4422.7776 Um- 4423.2672 4686 DCB_int_01 4423.4631 Obviously seafood theme. 4424.7267 4687 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4424.8433 Oh, 4425.0391 4688 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4425.0391 (pause 0.11) 4425.1464 4689 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4425.1464 very much so. 4425.6593 4690 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4425.6593 (pause 0.17) 4425.8272 4691 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4425.8272 I'm a- 4426.1303 4692 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4426.1303 (pause 0.26) 4426.3867 4693 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4426.3867 Yeah, big seafood eater. 4427.4254 4694 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4427.4254 (pause 0.52) 4427.9476 4695 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4427.9476 I will say this. 4428.7217 4696 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4428.7217 (pause 0.10) 4428.8196 4697 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4428.8196 Before they tore down Market Inn, 4430.4050 4698 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4430.4050 (pause 1.62) 4432.0277 4699 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4432.0277 down in Southwest, 4432.9403 4700 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4432.9403 (pause 0.74) 4433.6772 4701 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4433.6772 used to be right beside the bridge. 4435.2113 4702 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4435.2113 (pause 0.83) 4436.0459 4703 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4436.0459 Market Inn is- 4436.7594 4704 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4436.7594 (pause 0.62) 4437.3749 4705 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4437.3749 was a- 4437.7572 4706 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4437.7572 (pause 0.39) 4438.1431 4707 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4438.1431 a very nice prominent little- 4439.6119 4708 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4439.6119 (pause 1.41) 4441.0248 4709 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4441.0248 little s- It- 4441.6434 4710 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4441.6434 (pause 0.15) 4441.7895 4711 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4441.7895 It was 4442.3723 4712 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4442.3723 (pause 0.28) 4442.6474 4713 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4442.6474 kind of steak and seafood 4444.0230 4714 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4444.0230 (pause 0.59) 4444.6140 4715 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4444.6140 restaurant. 4445.1596 4716 DCB_int_01 4445.1596 /Yeah/ (whispering). 4445.7238 4717 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4446.0036 My dad took me there f- 4447.0761 4718 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4447.0761 (pause 0.14) 4447.2113 4719 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4447.2113 um- 4447.4910 4720 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4447.4910 (pause 0.30) 4447.7895 4721 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4447.7895 Well the family went 4448.6381 4722 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4448.6381 (pause 0.18) 4448.8200 4723 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4448.8200 when I w- when I turned thirteen. 4450.0790 4724 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4450.0790 (pause 0.65) 4450.7259 4725 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4450.7259 And that was major 4451.6539 4726 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4451.6539 (pause 0.80) 4452.4559 4727 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4452.4559 beca- And what I will say, 4453.9713 4728 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4453.9713 (pause 0.19) 4454.1578 4729 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4454.1578 they always gave me 4455.5054 4730 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4455.5054 (pause 1.68) 4457.1876 4731 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4457.1876 the better restaurants, 4458.3580 4732 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4458.3580 (pause 0.15) 4458.5072 4733 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4458.5072 the better- 4459.1507 4734 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4459.1507 (pause 0.31) 4459.4631 4735 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4459.4631 to get the exposure. 4460.4749 4736 DCB_int_01 4460.7314 Mm. 4461.1324 4737 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4461.1464 Um, 4461.7386 4738 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4461.7386 (pause 0.34) 4462.0825 4739 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4462.0825 you know, at twelve, thirteen years old, dressing up to go to dinner. 4464.7263 4740 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4464.7263 (pause 1.18) 4465.9014 4741 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4465.9014 Um, that was a really big in our family then, 4467.5847 4742 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4467.5847 (pause 0.52) 4468.1069 4743 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4468.1069 growing up. 4468.5079 4744 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4468.5079 (pause 0.25) 4468.7539 4745 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4468.7539 That was really important to him. 4469.9803 4746 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4469.9803 (pause 0.93) 4470.9082 4747 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4470.9082 Um, 4471.5050 4748 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4471.5050 (pause 1.86) 4473.3609 4749 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4473.3609 so 4473.9577 4750 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4473.9577 (pause 0.21) 4474.1664 4751 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4474.1664 now- 4474.8985 4752 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4474.8985 (pause 0.21) 4475.1036 4753 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4475.1036 Do I have a favorite now? 4476.6237 4754 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4476.6237 (pause 1.48) 4478.1066 4755 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4478.1066 As long as you have decent seafood I'm good. 4479.7479 4756 DCB_int_01 4480.0467 Mm-hm. 4480.3040 4757 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4480.8705 You know, 4481.2482 4758 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4481.2482 (pause 0.13) 4481.3741 4759 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4481.3741 I'm- 4481.5699 4760 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4481.5699 (pause 0.11) 4481.6772 4761 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4481.6772 I'm- I'm happy. 4482.3486 4762 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4482.3486 (pause 0.33) 4482.6750 4763 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4482.6750 At the harbor, I don't really have any favorites. I l- 4484.9365 4764 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4484.9365 (pause 0.19) 4485.1231 4765 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4485.1231 There's- 4485.3702 4766 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4485.3702 (pause 0.34) 4485.7106 4767 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4485.7106 I like- 4486.0603 4768 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4486.0603 (pause 0.21) 4486.2748 4769 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4486.2748 Cause I like- I like Mexican food as well, so 4488.4652 4770 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4488.4652 (pause 0.64) 4489.1087 4771 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4489.1087 um- 4489.5517 4772 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4489.5517 (pause 0.97) 4490.5215 4773 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4490.5215 4490.6055 4774 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4490.6055 (pause 0.09) 4490.6987 4775 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4490.6987 Bond Forty Five, I love that place. 4492.7691 4776 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4492.7691 (pause 0.88) 4493.6492 4777 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4493.6492 It's really nice. 4494.4932 4778 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4494.4932 (pause 0.67) 4495.1646 4779 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4495.1646 Because it- there are times when 4496.4982 4780 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4496.4982 (pause 1.42) 4497.9158 4781 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4497.9158 I want 4498.4753 4782 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4498.4753 (pause 0.15) 4498.6234 4783 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4498.6234 to- 4499.2062 4784 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4499.2062 (pause 1.82) 4501.0248 4785 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4501.0248 I want the influence. I want 4502.5495 4786 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4502.5495 (pause 0.15) 4502.6987 4787 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4502.6987 the- 4503.0858 4788 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4503.0858 (pause 1.17) 4504.2515 4789 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4504.2515 the- 4504.4054 4790 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4504.4054 (pause 0.47) 4504.8798 4791 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4504.8798 to- 4505.0477 4792 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4505.0477 (pause 0.16) 4505.2109 4793 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4505.2109 to dine, 4505.9057 4794 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4505.9057 (pause 0.64) 4506.5445 4795 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4506.5445 not just eat. I want to dine. 4508.0273 4796 DCB_int_01 4508.1439 Mm-hm. 4508.5122 4797 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4508.7733 I want the linen. 4509.6500 4798 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4509.6500 (pause 0.78) 4510.4275 4799 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4510.4275 You know, 4510.8145 4800 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4510.8145 (pause 0.56) 4511.3788 4801 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4511.3788 I want 4511.7751 4802 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4511.7751 (pause 0.29) 4512.0689 4803 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4512.0689 the three forks, and you have to figure out which fork goes with y- 4514.6288 4804 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4514.6288 (pause 0.23) 4514.8619 4805 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4514.8619 I want- 4515.3469 4806 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4515.3469 (pause 1.00) 4516.3494 4807 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4516.3494 I want that- 4516.8845 4808 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4516.8845 (pause 0.24) 4517.1270 4809 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4517.1270 that level 4517.7984 4810 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4517.7984 (pause 0.41) 4518.2041 4811 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4518.2041 of eating. 4518.7170 4812 DCB_int_01 4519.2812 Right. 4519.5237 4813 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4519.7988 Now, 4520.1252 4814 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4520.1252 (pause 0.09) 4520.2185 4815 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4520.2185 the quality of food, 4521.1510 4816 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4521.1510 (pause 0.36) 4521.5147 4817 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4521.5147 m- 4521.5707 4818 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4521.5707 (pause 0.76) 4522.3261 4819 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4522.3261 most times than not 4523.5886 4820 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4523.5886 (pause 0.90) 4524.4839 4821 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4524.4839 is up to that same standard. 4525.7475 4822 DCB_int_01 4525.8569 Mm-hm. 4526.2218 4823 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4526.8433 Um, 4527.2816 4824 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4527.2816 (pause 0.15) 4527.4355 4825 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4527.4355 but then I have the times where it's like, Okay, let's just get something to eat and keep it moving, 4530.3859 4826 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4530.3859 (pause 1.29) 4531.6776 4827 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4531.6776 [you know.] 4532.0832 4828 DCB_int_01 4531.6869 [What about the] carry out? 4532.6987 4829 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4535.3228 Mm, 4535.8264 4830 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4535.8264 (pause 0.97) 4536.7916 4831 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4536.7916 not- 4537.0947 4832 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4537.0947 (pause 0.49) 4537.5843 4833 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4537.5843 Chinese food's probably about the only thing I do 4539.4728 4834 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4539.4728 (pause 0.09) 4539.5660 4835 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4539.5660 carry out. 4540.0510 4836 DCB_int_01 4541.4161 [No mumbo] sauce? 4542.4605 4837 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4541.4207 [And it's w-] 4541.9150 4838 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4543.1134 Nah, I g- I outgrew that one. They took- 4545.2909 4839 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4545.2909 (pause 0.17) 4545.4635 4840 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4545.4635 Uh, there was a restaurant 4546.4613 4841 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4546.4613 (pause 0.47) 4546.9311 4842 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4546.9311 growing up, 4547.4534 4843 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4547.4534 (pause 0.19) 4547.6445 4844 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4547.6445 used to be very famous for their 4549.3558 4845 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4549.3558 (pause 0.61) 4549.9667 4846 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4549.9667 um, 4550.2837 4847 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4550.2837 (pause 0.43) 4550.7174 4848 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4550.7174 chicken wings 4551.3982 4849 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4551.3982 (pause 0.16) 4551.5614 4850 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4551.5614 and their steak and cheese sandwiches. 4553.0384 4851 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4553.0384 (pause 0.43) 4553.4673 4852 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4553.4673 It was on Benning Road. It was called Aces. 4555.2206 4853 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4555.2206 (pause 0.90) 4556.1205 4854 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4556.1205 It was right near Fort Chaplin 4557.2396 4855 DCB_int_01 4557.4826 Mm-hm. 4557.9036 4856 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4558.1163 apartments. 4558.6843 4857 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4558.6843 (pause 0.96) 4559.6399 4858 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4559.6399 That was my mumbo sauce- in high school 4561.4351 4859 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4561.4351 (pause 0.10) 4561.5330 4860 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4561.5330 that was my mumbo sauce days. 4563.0251 4861 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4563.0251 (pause 0.20) 4563.2256 4862 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4563.2256 Cause there was a place 4563.9484 4863 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4563.9484 (pause 0.17) 4564.1209 4864 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4564.1209 off of A Street 4565.2389 4865 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4565.2389 (pause 0.42) 4565.6585 4866 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4565.6585 over by /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 4566.4605 4867 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4566.4605 (pause 0.38) 4566.8382 4868 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4566.8382 that had the best mumbo sauce. 4568.3863 4869 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4568.3863 (pause 0.52) 4568.9086 4870 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4568.9086 I haven't had mumbo sauce in so many years I probably wouldn't know what it taste like. 4571.6865 4871 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4571.6865 (pause 0.38) 4572.0689 4872 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4572.0689 4572.6937 4873 DCB_int_01 4572.7628 4573.4411 4874 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4573.5237 I- 4573.7755 4875 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4573.7755 (pause 1.15) 4574.9226 4876 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4574.9226 And now- 4575.5707 4877 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4575.5707 (pause 0.12) 4575.6919 4878 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4575.6919 Like I- 4575.9670 4879 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4575.9670 (pause 0.09) 4576.0545 4880 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4576.0545 I'm not a big pizza eater anymore. I'm- I'm more of a seafood eater. 4579.1926 4881 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4579.1926 (pause 0.92) 4580.1159 4882 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4580.1159 But if I'm gonna do carryout, 4581.6453 4883 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4581.6453 (pause 0.42) 4582.0685 4884 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4582.0685 Levi's, I'll go there [occasionally] cause that's in the neighborhood. 4584.7636 4885 DCB_int_01 4583.3021 [Mm. Mm-hm.] 4583.7658 4886 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4585.4211 That's in my neighborhood, so I'll go there, but not- 4587.3049 4887 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4587.3049 (pause 1.12) 4588.4229 4888 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4588.4229 That's- that what I call 4589.7191 4889 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4589.7191 (pause 1.08) 4590.8009 4890 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4590.8009 not fast food, but I didn't have to cook it. 4592.8200 4891 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4592.8200 (pause 0.70) 4593.5241 4892 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4593.5241 That's what I call that, 4594.3820 4893 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4594.3820 (pause 0.25) 4594.6327 4894 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4594.6327 you know. 4595.0477 4895 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4595.0477 (pause 0.52) 4595.5699 4896 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4595.5699 Um, but Chinese food probably would be 4597.8967 4897 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4597.8967 (pause 1.28) 4599.1743 4898 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4599.1743 the only thing, and- and I'm just getting s- usually soup 4601.4627 4899 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4601.4627 (pause 0.29) 4601.7564 4900 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4601.7564 for that or 4602.7310 4901 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4602.7310 (pause 0.36) 4603.0900 4902 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4603.0900 shrimp fried rice or something like that, nothing major. 4605.5147 4903 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4605.5147 (pause 1.37) 4606.8798 4904 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4606.8798 It's not- As long as it's seafood based, I'm good. 4608.7450 4905 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4608.7450 (pause 0.90) 4609.6403 4906 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4609.6403 I'm happy 4610.1299 4907 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4610.1299 (pause 0.50) 4610.6288 4908 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4610.6288 cause I'm- I'm more of a seafood eater than I am a steak eater. 4613.1036 4909 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4613.1036 (pause 0.56) 4613.6678 4910 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4613.6678 I eat steak maybe three times a year, 4615.5423 4911 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4615.5423 (pause 0.66) 4616.1998 4912 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4616.1998 if that. 4616.6847 4913 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4616.6847 (pause 0.98) 4617.6686 4914 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4617.6686 Actually that might be stretching it. 4618.8938 4915 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4618.8938 (pause 0.91) 4619.8077 4916 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4619.8077 I'm not a big rib eater. I eat 4621.3698 4917 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4621.3698 (pause 0.16) 4621.5330 4918 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4621.5330 maybe 4621.8734 4919 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4621.8734 (pause 0.27) 4622.1438 4920 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4622.1438 two or three times in the summer, 4623.3888 4921 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4623.3888 (pause 0.66) 4624.0463 4922 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4624.0463 and then I may not 4624.7213 4923 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4624.7213 (pause 0.14) 4624.8658 4924 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4624.8658 eat it again til the next summer, 4626.5212 4925 DCB_int_01 4626.6704 Right. 4627.2812 4926 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4627.7102 so. 4628.2278 4927 DCB_int_01 4629.2443 what's your favorite monument? 4630.3121 4928 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4632.4559 4632.5491 4929 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4632.5491 (pause 0.13) 4632.6797 4930 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4632.6797 Um, 4633.5283 4931 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4633.5283 (pause 2.39) 4635.9204 4932 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4635.9204 mm. 4636.4380 4933 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4636.4380 (pause 1.59) 4638.0269 4934 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4638.0269 4638.1248 4935 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4638.1248 (pause 0.28) 4638.4046 4936 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4638.4046 Probably would have to be 4639.8361 4937 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4639.8361 (pause 0.16) 4639.9993 4938 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4639.9993 the statue of Martin Luther King. 4641.4401 4939 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4641.4401 (pause 2.40) 4643.8404 4940 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4643.8404 That is 4644.2647 4941 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4644.2647 (pause 0.25) 4644.5165 4942 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4644.5165 surreal. 4645.0994 4943 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4645.0994 (pause 0.20) 4645.2999 4944 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4645.2999 It- 4645.4444 4945 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4645.4444 (pause 0.14) 4645.5890 4946 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4645.5890 it- 4645.7242 4947 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4645.7242 (pause 0.09) 4645.8128 4948 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4645.8128 it just- 4646.3817 4949 DCB_int_01 4646.3817 It is. 4646.8577 4950 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4647.2256 I get a calmness 4648.5452 4951 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4648.5452 (pause 0.19) 4648.7306 4952 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4648.7306 when I just- if I'm just near it. 4650.2274 4953 DCB_int_01 4650.5200 Me too. 4651.0813 4954 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4651.2439 You know, it's like- 4651.8268 4955 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4651.8268 (pause 1.29) 4653.1137 4956 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4653.1137 like you just wanna touch the wall and just feel the- 4655.7564 4957 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4655.7564 (pause 0.94) 4656.6983 4958 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4656.6983 the history behind it. 4657.7102 4959 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4657.7102 (pause 0.79) 4658.5029 4960 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4658.5029 So I'd- I really enjoy that. 4660.0416 4961 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4660.0416 (pause 0.23) 4660.2748 4962 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4660.2748 I really enjoy that. 4661.2028 4963 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4661.2028 (pause 0.73) 4661.9290 4964 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4661.9290 Um, 4662.3999 4965 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4662.3999 (pause 0.66) 4663.0621 4966 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4663.0621 that's probably- 4663.9760 4967 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4663.9760 (pause 0.51) 4664.4889 4968 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4664.4889 that's- 4664.6941 4969 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4664.6941 (pause 0.15) 4664.8433 4970 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4664.8433 that would have to be my favorite now. 4666.1489 4971 DCB_int_01 4666.9218 I think for me too. 4667.7984 4972 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4667.7564 Yeah, 4668.0735 4973 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4668.1854 [that's my favorite now.] 4668.9874 4974 DCB_int_01 4668.1948 [There's something] when you walk in there, [it's a] different- 4671.1654 4975 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4670.1392 [It just-] 4670.5822 4976 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4671.6500 You just take a deep breath of- 4673.2995 4977 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4673.2995 (pause 0.31) 4673.6119 4978 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4673.6119 It's like, really? 4674.3533 4979 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4674.3533 (pause 0.84) 4675.1926 4980 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4675.1926 Because it's like 4676.0226 4981 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4676.0226 (pause 1.59) 4677.6173 4982 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4677.6173 he- he was the- 4678.8483 4983 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4678.8483 (pause 0.26) 4679.1036 4984 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4679.1036 the /transcend/ for- 4680.2694 4985 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4680.2694 (pause 0.41) 4680.6750 4986 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4680.6750 for everything, I mean everything 4682.2151 4987 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4682.2151 (pause 0.33) 4682.5449 4988 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4682.5449 not everything that we have, 4683.8645 4989 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4683.8645 (pause 0.10) 4683.9624 4990 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4683.9624 but he- 4684.4240 4991 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4684.4240 (pause 0.57) 4684.9917 4992 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4684.9917 and I'm not saying he was perfect by any means, 4687.0154 4993 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4687.0154 (pause 1.04) 4688.0506 4994 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4688.0506 but 4688.3770 4995 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4688.3770 (pause 0.16) 4688.5355 4996 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4688.5355 what he stood for 4689.8598 4997 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4689.8598 (pause 1.48) 4691.3414 4998 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4691.3414 is- is- 4691.8777 4999 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4691.8777 (pause 0.16) 4692.0362 5000 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4692.0362 is just- 4692.5911 5001 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4692.5911 (pause 0.64) 4693.2346 5002 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4693.2346 And it's not from what you learned or what, 4695.2396 5003 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4695.2396 (pause 0.32) 4695.5567 5004 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4695.5567 you know, they 4696.0183 5005 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4696.0183 (pause 0.29) 4696.3074 5006 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4696.3074 tried to teach you in grade [school.] 4697.9874 5007 DCB_int_01 4698.1790 Mm-hm. 4698.6842 5008 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4700.3863 I actually have, 4700.9179 5009 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4700.9179 (pause 0.13) 4701.0438 5010 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4701.0438 you know, like read it- t- a few of his, 4702.4333 5011 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4702.4333 (pause 0.25) 4702.6793 5012 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4702.6793 you know, a few books 4703.4767 5013 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4703.4767 (pause 0.18) 4703.6539 5014 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4703.6539 and autobiographies 4704.6179 5015 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4704.6179 (pause 0.29) 4704.9128 5016 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4704.9128 just to give different perspectives on him. 4706.5122 5017 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4706.5122 (pause 0.67) 4707.1790 5018 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4707.1790 Um, 4707.5847 5019 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4707.5847 (pause 0.18) 4707.7665 5020 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4707.7665 of course you know, you watch all the different movies and all that, but of course Hollywood's put their spin on it, and they don't tell everything. 4712.8852 5021 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4712.8852 (pause 0.74) 4713.6266 5022 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4713.6266 But um, to be able to use the comparison between the two, 4716.0642 5023 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4716.0642 (pause 0.87) 4716.9362 5024 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4716.9362 I enjoyed that. 4717.5983 5025 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4717.5983 (pause 1.12) 4718.7220 5026 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4718.7220 [Yeah.] 4719.0438 5027 DCB_int_01 4718.7500 [The very] last question for you. 4720.5540 5028 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4720.7726 Mm. 4720.9498 5029 DCB_int_01 4721.1316 If you could leave a piece of advice, 4722.9362 5030 DCB_int_01 4722.9362 (pause 0.80) 4723.7335 5031 DCB_int_01 4723.7335 what would that piece of advice be? 4725.2116 5032 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4726.1209 As it relates to? 4727.1596 5033 DCB_int_01 4728.8709 Just advice. It could be to young people, 4730.9645 5034 DCB_int_01 4730.9645 (pause 0.54) 4731.5054 5035 DCB_int_01 4731.5054 generally, 4732.1489 5036 DCB_int_01 4732.1489 (pause 0.32) 4732.4695 5037 DCB_int_01 4732.4695 um- 4732.9917 5038 DCB_int_01 4732.9917 (pause 0.34) 4733.3275 5039 DCB_int_01 4733.3275 I ask to young people but it doesn't have [to be.] 4735.3465 5040 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4734.9548 [To young] people? 4735.6962 5041 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4738.5814 To thine own self be true. 4739.8217 5042 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4739.8217 (pause 2.16) 4741.9806 5043 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4741.9806 Know who you are. 4742.9505 5044 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4742.9505 (pause 3.37) 4746.3253 5045 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4746.3253 Um, develop it. 4747.2532 5046 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4747.2532 (pause 2.86) 4750.1162 5047 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4750.1162 And 4750.6711 5048 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4750.6711 (pause 0.49) 4751.1642 5049 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4751.1642 always have respect for not only yourself, 4753.3978 5050 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4753.3978 (pause 0.37) 4753.7661 5051 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4753.7661 but for others. 4754.5215 5052 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4754.5215 (pause 0.86) 4755.3842 5053 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4755.3842 I think respect is so important 4756.9403 5054 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4756.9403 (pause 1.08) 4758.0222 5055 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4758.0222 because you can get so much farther 4759.4351 5056 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4759.4351 (pause 0.83) 4760.2697 5057 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4760.2697 in life. 4760.9412 5058 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4760.9412 (pause 0.69) 4761.6266 5059 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4761.6266 Treat people the way you would wanna be treated. 4763.7844 5060 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4763.7844 (pause 0.76) 4764.5445 5061 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4764.5445 That's always important to me. 4765.7475 5062 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4765.7475 (pause 0.98) 4766.7267 5063 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4766.7267 That's something I've instilled in my daughter, 4768.6094 5064 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4768.6094 (pause 0.14) 4768.7539 5065 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4768.7539 /and it's like/ 4769.1642 5066 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4769.1642 (pause 0.58) 4769.7471 5067 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4769.7471 you know- 4770.2554 5068 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4770.2554 (pause 0.54) 4770.7916 5069 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4770.7916 I don't care what someone has done to you, 4772.7827 5070 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4772.7827 (pause 0.70) 4773.4868 5071 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4773.4868 you really never know what a person has gone through or is going through at that moment, 4777.7382 5072 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4777.7382 (pause 1.58) 4779.3189 5073 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4779.3189 and something I've learned um, 4781.6212 5074 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4781.6212 (pause 1.59) 4783.2159 5075 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4783.2159 from church- 4783.9106 5076 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4783.9106 (pause 0.54) 4784.4469 5077 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4784.4469 from s- 4784.8573 5078 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4784.8573 (pause 0.14) 4785.0018 5079 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4785.0018 from my pastor in the last month, 4787.0337 5080 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4787.0337 (pause 0.90) 4787.9290 5081 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4787.9290 is learning to die to yourself. 4789.8081 5082 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4789.8081 (pause 1.07) 4790.8806 5083 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4790.8806 You know, he's on a- He's teaching now 4792.7318 5084 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4792.7318 (pause 0.63) 4793.3601 5085 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4793.3601 on killing- on- 4794.2321 5086 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4794.2321 (pause 0.29) 4794.5258 5087 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4794.5258 It's- it's called 4795.1786 5088 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4795.1786 (pause 0.76) 4795.9387 5089 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4795.9387 killing yourself 4796.6661 5090 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4796.6661 (pause 0.15) 4796.8200 5091 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4796.8200 or suicide. 4797.6266 5092 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4797.6266 (pause 0.54) 4798.1664 5093 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4798.1664 But it's not from the perspective of killing yourself 4800.4092 5094 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4800.4092 (pause 0.15) 4800.5585 5095 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4800.5585 physically, 4801.2672 5096 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4801.2672 (pause 1.04) 4802.3070 5097 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4802.3070 it's killing yourself from 4803.7992 5098 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4803.7992 (pause 0.11) 4803.9064 5099 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4803.9064 a spiritual perspective 4805.2155 5100 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4805.2155 (pause 0.39) 4805.6026 5101 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4805.6026 that- 4805.9523 5102 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4805.9523 (pause 2.89) 4808.8386 5103 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4808.8386 I don't have to be right all the time. 4810.3995 5104 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4810.3995 (pause 1.98) 4812.3813 5105 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4812.3813 I don't have to know everything. 4813.5890 5106 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4813.5890 (pause 1.78) 4815.3655 5107 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4815.3655 So 4815.7152 5108 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4815.7152 (pause 0.27) 4815.9857 5109 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4815.9857 I don't have to 4816.5394 5110 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4816.5394 (pause 0.14) 4816.6746 5111 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4816.6746 take anger to everything. 4818.0176 5112 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4818.0176 (pause 0.35) 4818.3673 5113 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4818.3673 I don't have to have an opinion about everything. 4820.6568 5114 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4820.6568 (pause 0.73) 4821.3842 5115 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4821.3842 So if you were to say something 4823.1683 5116 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4823.1683 (pause 0.25) 4823.4160 5117 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4823.4160 cause you can't offend me unless I allow you to offend me. 4826.0413 5118 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4826.0413 (pause 1.10) 4827.1417 5119 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4827.1417 Okay? 4827.5101 5120 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4827.5101 (pause 0.68) 4828.1897 5121 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4828.1897 My response to anything that you say or do is my responsibility, 4831.4864 5122 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4831.4864 (pause 1.29) 4832.7733 5123 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4832.7733 and that's what I'm- 4833.3515 5124 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4833.3515 (pause 0.16) 4833.5147 5125 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4833.5147 that's what I've been taught. 4834.3168 5126 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4834.3168 (pause 0.75) 4835.0663 5127 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4835.0663 So if you say something 4836.9735 5128 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4836.9735 (pause 0.46) 4837.4351 5129 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4837.4351 and your intent is to 4838.4096 5130 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4838.4096 (pause 0.19) 4838.6008 5131 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4838.6008 anger me, 4839.2723 5132 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4839.2723 (pause 2.65) 4841.9196 5133 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4841.9196 it's up to me to die to myself 4843.8174 5134 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4843.8174 (pause 0.48) 4844.2931 5135 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4844.2931 and not allow you to have control 4845.9018 5136 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4845.9018 (pause 0.84) 4846.7399 5137 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4846.7399 over me. 4847.1689 5138 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4847.1689 (pause 0.78) 4847.9476 5139 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4847.9476 So that's why I said 4848.8942 5140 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4848.8942 (pause 0.34) 4849.2299 5141 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4849.2299 to thy own self be true. 4850.5075 5142 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4850.5075 (pause 0.36) 4850.8666 5143 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4850.8666 So if- 4851.3982 5144 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4851.3982 (pause 0.30) 4851.6966 5145 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4851.6966 if- 4851.9251 5146 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4851.9251 (pause 0.12) 4852.0416 5147 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4852.0416 if- 4852.3074 5148 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4852.3074 (pause 0.24) 4852.5487 5149 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4852.5487 for young people, 4853.4254 5150 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4853.4254 (pause 0.14) 4853.5699 5151 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4853.5699 or anyone really, 4854.4978 5152 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4854.4978 (pause 3.65) 4858.1442 5153 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4858.1442 no one control you unless you give them control. 4860.5165 5154 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4860.5165 (pause 1.70) 4862.2138 5155 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4862.2138 And that's my lesson I'm learning these days. 4864.1116 5156 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4864.1116 (pause 1.13) 4865.2389 5157 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4865.2389 I'm not quick to anger anymore. 4866.6144 5158 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4866.6144 (pause 0.92) 4867.5377 5159 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4867.5377 My m- If you do something I don't like, Oh, okay. 4869.3888 5160 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4869.3888 (pause 1.29) 4870.6746 5161 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4870.6746 If you do something that doesn't make sense to me, 4872.1341 5162 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4872.1341 (pause 0.74) 4872.8755 5163 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4872.8755 4872.9874 5164 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4872.9874 (pause 0.24) 4873.2299 5165 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4873.2299 mm. 4873.4444 5166 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4873.4444 (pause 0.21) 4873.6496 5167 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4873.6496 Okay. 4874.0179 5168 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4874.0179 (pause 2.61) 4876.6280 5169 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4876.6280 At the end of the day, 4877.5186 5170 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4877.5186 (pause 3.76) 4881.2769 5171 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4881.2769 you may continue to do something that bothers me, but I- 4883.7331 5172 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4883.7331 (pause 0.22) 4883.9569 5173 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4883.9569 It's up to me if I allow you to bother me. 4886.2604 5174 DCB_int_01 4886.7034 Right. 4887.0205 5175 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4887.5800 And it doesn't mean I don't care, 4888.9254 5176 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4888.9254 (pause 0.68) 4889.6026 5177 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4889.6026 I do care. 4890.3719 5178 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4890.3719 (pause 0.95) 4891.3232 5179 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4891.3232 But I choose not to let 4892.5635 5180 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4892.5635 (pause 0.16) 4892.7267 5181 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4892.7267 people have control of me. 4893.9950 5182 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4893.9950 (pause 1.74) 4895.7331 5183 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4895.7331 And that way, 4896.4419 5184 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4896.4419 (pause 1.38) 4897.8268 5185 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4897.8268 I always- 4898.3164 5186 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4898.3164 (pause 0.14) 4898.4563 5187 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4898.4563 My- my- my running line is, 4900.4566 5188 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4900.4566 (pause 1.44) 4901.8917 5189 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4901.8917 If I do not get into heaven, it will not be because of someone else. 4905.4075 5190 DCB_int_01 4906.2430 Mm-hm. 4906.7248 5191 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4906.9497 It'll be because of something 4907.9896 5192 DCB_int_01 4908.1468 [Mm-hm.] Yup. 4909.0434 5193 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4908.1481 I did. 4908.6890 5194 DCB_se2_ag4_f_04 4910.4283 So that would be probably it. 4911.3982