Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.3310 And where were you born? 1.4254 2 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2.3292 Uh, what was the name of that hospital? 4.8503 3 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4.8503 (pause 2.62) 7.4688 4 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 7.4688 7.5528 5 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 7.5528 (pause 0.13) 7.6809 6 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 7.6809 Washington Hospital Center. 8.7968 7 DCB_int_01 13.0354 And 13.7009 8 DCB_int_01 13.7009 (pause 0.22) 13.9250 9 DCB_int_01 13.9250 what neighborhood did you grow up in or that you claim is your neighborhood? 16.7223 10 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 18.0869 Mm. 18.8313 11 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 18.8313 (pause 0.85) 19.6769 12 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 19.6769 Well I don't know, only cause 21.2736 13 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 21.2736 (pause 0.71) 21.9819 14 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 21.9819 ti- 22.2501 15 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 22.2501 (pause 0.20) 22.4502 16 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 22.4502 there's like a bunch. But I- I would say 24.5271 17 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 24.5271 (pause 0.10) 24.6284 18 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 24.6284 mostly Northeast Washington at this point but that's not where I grew up. 29.9268 19 DCB_int_01 30.1950 Okay [so let's] talk about that part. 31.7576 20 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 30.5751 [I-] 30.8793 21 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 32.3772 Well like, 33.0135 22 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 33.0135 (pause 0.39) 33.4057 23 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 33.4057 until I was ten I grew up in Adelphi, Maryland, sorry [I kicked you.] And then uh, 37.7244 24 DCB_int_01 36.3390 [Mm-hm.] 36.7872 25 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 38.8134 after that Hyattsville, which is really close, so 41.7377 26 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 41.7377 (pause 0.83) 42.5684 27 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 42.5684 primarily Prince George's County 44.5373 28 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 44.5373 (pause 0.06) 44.6013 29 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 44.6013 until high school. 45.9704 30 DCB_int_01 48.9245 And then did you come into the District at that point? 50.9255 31 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 51.0815 Yeah uh, 52.4342 32 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 52.4342 (pause 0.34) 52.7743 33 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 52.7743 s- what is the name of that- 54.0189 34 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 54.0189 (pause 0.19) 54.2110 35 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 54.2110 I don't know what the name of that neighborhood is. 55.5796 36 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 55.5796 (pause 0.72) 56.3012 37 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 56.3012 It was basically sixteenth street Northwest and Underwood, it was my grandma's house, so. 63.3766 38 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 63.3766 (pause 1.16) 64.5382 39 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 64.5382 It's kind of near Gold Coast, near um where Walter Reed 67.9570 40 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 67.9570 (pause 0.36) 68.3212 41 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 68.3212 was. 69.1135 42 DCB_int_01 73.1394 And where did you go to school? 73.9530 43 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 74.7054 Uh, for middle, high, elementary, all of the [above?] 79.8570 44 DCB_int_01 79.5768 [Whatever] you'd like to tell [me.] 80.7254 45 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 80.6373 [Oh], okay. 81.2536 46 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 81.7138 Elementary school, well, /RD-SCHOOL-7/, 85.3035 47 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 85.3035 (pause 0.73) 86.0290 48 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 86.0290 which was PG County. 88.7423 49 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 88.7423 (pause 0.62) 89.3666 50 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 89.3666 Then /RD-SCHOOL-7/, 91.1314 51 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 91.1314 (pause 0.90) 92.0290 52 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 92.0290 these are all small and private, FYI. 94.3141 53 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 94.3141 (pause 0.48) 94.7983 54 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 94.7983 Um, also in PG County. 97.0514 55 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 97.0514 (pause 1.17) 98.2171 56 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 98.2171 Then /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 100.3756 57 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 100.3756 (pause 0.84) 101.2145 58 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 101.2145 just DC. 102.3075 59 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 102.3075 (pause 0.28) 102.5877 60 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 102.5877 102.6997 61 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 102.6997 (pause 0.68) 103.3800 62 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 103.3800 And undergrad, /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 107.2067 63 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 107.2067 (pause 1.07) 108.2755 64 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 108.2755 law school, /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 109.7266 65 DCB_int_01 112.8416 And what's your current occupation? 114.1376 66 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 115.1719 115.2560 67 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 115.2560 (pause 0.46) 115.7162 68 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 115.7162 Team lead 116.9295 69 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 116.9295 (pause 0.72) 117.6531 70 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 117.6531 um, 118.6734 71 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 118.6734 (pause 0.14) 118.8108 72 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 118.8108 on a document review project. 121.6201 73 DCB_int_01 126.9478 And is that under like, 128.1724 74 DCB_int_01 128.1724 (pause 0.34) 128.5086 75 DCB_int_01 128.5086 law? 129.0848 76 DCB_int_01 129.0848 (pause 0.16) 129.2449 77 DCB_int_01 129.2449 I'm assuming [since you went to law school.] 130.9657 78 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 129.7691 [ Yeah] yeah it's- [it's- it's] a l- it's a law [job.] 133.1479 79 DCB_int_01 131.4111 [] 131.8245 80 DCB_int_01 131.8245 (pause 1.11) 132.9358 81 DCB_int_01 132.9358 [Okay.] 133.4372 82 DCB_int_01 134.7767 Um, what about your parents, where were they born? 136.6015 83 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 137.2898 My dad was born in Rochester, New York but 140.9539 84 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 140.9539 (pause 0.94) 141.8892 85 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 141.8892 he lived- he moved- his family moved here 145.7285 86 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 145.7285 (pause 1.32) 147.0448 87 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 147.0448 when he was maybe ten I think, so he spent most 149.8661 88 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 149.8661 (pause 0.21) 150.0754 89 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 150.0754 of his 151.1639 90 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 151.1639 (pause 0.72) 151.8843 91 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 151.8843 youth in DC. 153.2809 92 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 153.2809 (pause 0.95) 154.2294 93 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 154.2294 My mom was born in 156.1925 94 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 156.1925 (pause 0.16) 156.3556 95 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 156.3556 Baltimore, Maryland. 157.8236 96 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 157.8236 (pause 0.71) 158.5366 97 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 158.5366 Then 159.4410 98 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 159.4410 (pause 0.80) 160.2454 99 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 160.2454 in high school moved to Parkersburg, West Virginia where part of her family's from until undergrad. 166.7192 100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 166.7192 (pause 1.22) 167.9354 101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 167.9354 Well, 168.2075 102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 168.2075 (pause 0.07) 168.2795 103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 168.2795 through undergrad and then she moved into the area as an adult and has been in DC 171.9475 104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 171.9475 (pause 0.47) 172.4174 105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 172.4174 since then. 173.0241 106 DCB_int_01 174.0354 And what did your parents do? Or what do they do? 175.6442 107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 176.7567 They- my dad, 179.4935 108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 179.4935 (pause 0.83) 180.3235 109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 180.3235 he 181.3400 110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 181.3400 (pause 0.55) 181.8923 111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 181.8923 origin- he started as a teacher, he went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ too for grad school. 185.0697 112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 185.0697 (pause 0.46) 185.5272 113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 185.5272 So he was- he taught 187.5081 114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 187.5081 (pause 0.07) 187.5801 115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 187.5801 then he was 190.0813 116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 190.0813 (pause 0.17) 190.2534 117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 190.2534 in DC on the radio for some years 193.1559 118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 193.1559 (pause 0.17) 193.3280 119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 193.3280 on /RD-WORK-3/. 194.3045 120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 194.3045 (pause 0.81) 195.1128 121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 195.1128 And then he went back to teaching and is now a high school administrator. 198.9132 122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 198.9132 (pause 0.98) 199.8963 123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 199.8963 And my mom 201.8412 124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 201.8412 (pause 1.21) 203.0470 125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 203.0470 she's always been administration, 205.6322 126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 205.6322 (pause 0.12) 205.7522 127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 205.7522 and /RD-SCHOOL-5/ for like 208.0333 128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 208.0333 (pause 0.07) 208.1053 129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 208.1053 thirty years and now she's 209.6773 130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 209.6773 (pause 0.19) 209.8713 131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 209.8713 at- 210.6037 132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 210.6037 (pause 1.61) 212.2124 133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 212.2124 well, 212.6538 134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 212.6538 (pause 0.17) 212.8247 135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 212.8247 yeah, 213.2409 136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 213.2409 (pause 0.14) 213.3810 137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 213.3810 so. 213.7143 138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 213.7143 (pause 0.21) 213.9252 139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 213.9252 No, she's still at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, so. 215.1228 140 DCB_int_01 215.4070 [Still at] /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 216.0536 141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 215.4430 [Yeah.] 215.7030 142 DCB_int_01 218.4576 So I'm gonna put all my papers away. 221.2149 143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 221.2069 Does that part have to be on the website or whatever you guys are doing? 224.8218 144 DCB_int_01 224.8978 No no no no no no [no.] 226.0765 145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 225.8662 [Okay great.] Okay. 227.0596 146 DCB_int_01 226.4025 [No no no no no] no. 227.2349 147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 227.7671 Or like, 228.1873 148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 228.1873 (pause 0.22) 228.4087 149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 228.4087 might be easy to 229.1370 150 DCB_int_01 229.2811 [No, so anything] that- like I said, [anything that /idi-/] 231.9901 151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 229.3091 [whittle me down.] 229.9053 152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 229.9053 (pause 1.17) 231.0739 153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 231.0739 [Identifying information?] 232.5539 154 DCB_int_01 232.2344 [Yup.] 232.6186 155 DCB_int_01 232.9788 So like, let's say if you give a name, 234.7388 156 DCB_int_01 234.7388 (pause 0.26) 235.0009 157 DCB_int_01 235.0009 [um], 235.5609 158 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 235.0129 [Mm-hm.] 235.3463 159 DCB_int_01 235.6252 we can 236.0225 160 DCB_int_01 236.0225 (pause 0.21) 236.2295 161 DCB_int_01 236.2295 redact all that out or we just won't use that story. 238.4757 162 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 238.7146 Gotcha. 239.1268 163 DCB_int_01 239.1468 Yup. 239.3950 164 DCB_int_01 239.3950 (pause 0.15) 239.5430 165 DCB_int_01 239.5430 So- and if at any point there's anything- at the end we'll also go back if you said something that you wanted taken out, 244.6466 166 DCB_int_01 244.6466 (pause 0.32) 244.9668 167 DCB_int_01 244.9668 we'll do that as well. 245.6951 168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 245.7191 I don't s- really foresee this I just wanna make sure especially since I was talking about my parents, I was like, [oh.] 250.9438 169 DCB_int_01 250.5666 [Oh no] no no no. 251.4190 170 DCB_int_01 251.4990 M- [totally understand] that. 252.9497 171 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 251.8152 [Yeah.] 252.2218 172 DCB_int_01 253.4171 Um, so let's kind of start at the beginning. 255.6407 173 DCB_int_01 255.6407 (pause 0.39) 256.0263 174 DCB_int_01 256.0263 Um, 256.5866 175 DCB_int_01 256.5866 (pause 0.12) 256.7026 176 DCB_int_01 256.7026 I know you said you started out in PG. [So you were born] in DC, 259.7093 177 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 258.4487 [Mm-hm.] 258.8929 178 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 259.8253 [Mm-hm.] 260.1815 179 DCB_int_01 259.9654 [and] then, 260.6617 180 DCB_int_01 260.8578 um, 261.5181 181 DCB_int_01 261.5181 (pause 0.62) 262.1424 182 DCB_int_01 262.1424 how were you- 263.1108 183 DCB_int_01 263.1108 (pause 0.08) 263.1949 184 DCB_int_01 263.1949 how did you guys get back to PG? So were your parents [living in P-] 265.9315 185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 265.3980 [Oh th- they were] living in [PG County] in Adelphi. 268.6007 186 DCB_int_01 267.1280 [Okay.] 267.5534 187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 268.7488 I just- 269.4651 188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 269.4651 (pause 0.07) 269.5372 189 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 269.5372 that was the hospital. 270.3638 190 DCB_int_01 270.5536 Oh okay, okay. 271.3323 191 DCB_int_01 271.3323 (pause 0.30) 271.6354 192 DCB_int_01 271.6354 So tell me about your neighborhood growing up, what you remember. 274.5514 193 DCB_int_01 274.5514 (pause 0.18) 274.7328 194 DCB_int_01 274.7328 In Adelphi. 275.4101 195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 275.5932 Uh, we lived 277.1572 196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 277.1572 (pause 0.14) 277.2992 197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 277.2992 t- in Adelphi until I was nine, I mighta said ten before, but nine. 281.9453 198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 281.9453 (pause 0.61) 282.5536 199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 282.5536 And it was a really busy street, it's- it's on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Road, the house. 288.1643 200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 288.1643 (pause 0.67) 288.8378 201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 288.8378 So, 289.6193 202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 289.6193 (pause 0.67) 290.2877 203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 290.2877 I don't really remember th- I mean I remember the house. 292.5727 204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 292.5727 (pause 0.43) 293.0009 205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 293.0009 There wasn't much neighborhood wise like, 295.4806 206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 295.4806 (pause 0.98) 296.4637 207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 296.4637 I'm- 297.3802 208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 297.3802 (pause 0.64) 298.0245 209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 298.0245 have a brother but he's so much older than me, I was raised as an only child. 301.4930 210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 301.4930 (pause 0.27) 301.7674 211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 301.7674 So 302.6678 212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 302.6678 (pause 0.89) 303.5602 213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 303.5602 I wasn't- and I was- you know, until I was nine so I wasn't- it was busy so I wasn't 308.0115 214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 308.0115 (pause 0.13) 308.1396 215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 308.1396 running the neighborhood and like hanging out with neighbors or other kids it was- if I'm home I was in the house. 314.6638 216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 314.6638 (pause 0.59) 315.2521 217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 315.2521 Um, 316.1405 218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 316.1405 (pause 1.04) 317.1810 219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 317.1810 so in term- so there's really 318.8030 220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 318.8030 (pause 0.08) 318.8830 221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 318.8830 unfortunately not that much neighborhood I can give you. Now when 322.5167 222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 322.5167 (pause 0.48) 322.9929 223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 322.9929 my parents separated and my mom and I moved to uh, Hyattsville, 328.3072 224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 328.3072 (pause 0.38) 328.6888 225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 328.6888 that was a quiet neighborhood, there were lots of kids, bike riding, 333.4882 226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 333.4882 (pause 0.81) 334.2966 227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 334.2966 tag, that kind of stuff, so. 336.1935 228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 336.1935 (pause 0.59) 336.7857 229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 336.7857 Um, 337.3712 230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 337.3712 (pause 0.08) 337.4513 231 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 337.4513 but that was Hyattsville and that was when I was in like fourth grade, 341.0769 232 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 341.0769 (pause 0.18) 341.2530 233 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 341.2530 [so.] 341.6904 234 DCB_int_01 341.2530 [Okay so] let's Hyattsville then, [we don't have] to- 343.5541 235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 342.7337 [Okay.] 343.2444 236 DCB_int_01 343.6554 there's no [need-] 344.4877 237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 344.3837 [There] wa- yeah I was like, there's not really much to give you there. 346.4767 238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 346.6407 Um, 347.5372 239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 347.5372 (pause 0.71) 348.2455 240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 348.2455 uh, Hyattsville what I remember was mostly- 351.5282 241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 351.5282 (pause 0.60) 352.1325 242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 352.1325 it was all- it was a black neighborhood, black kids, 355.9675 243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 355.9675 (pause 0.16) 356.1316 244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 356.1316 um, 357.0440 245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 357.0440 (pause 1.10) 358.1445 246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 358.1445 I'm 358.4447 247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 358.4447 (pause 0.30) 358.7488 248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 358.7488 trying to figure out what 359.4651 249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 359.4651 (pause 0.33) 359.7933 250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 359.7933 you guys are looking for for me to talk about, um, I primarily- I was closest to- 365.3531 251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 365.3531 (pause 0.89) 366.2455 252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 366.2455 My main friend was 368.3344 253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 368.3344 (pause 0.08) 368.4105 254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 368.4105 a girl across the street and her family we were always at each other's houses. 372.7724 255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 372.7724 (pause 0.68) 373.4500 256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 373.4500 Um, 374.4100 257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 374.4100 (pause 1.04) 375.4469 258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 375.4469 you know, I could eat dinner at her house she could eat dinner at mine, sleepovers, normal 380.2731 259 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 380.2731 (pause 1.43) 381.7031 260 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 381.7031 friend, you know, stuff, neighborhood stuff. Rode bikes, 385.7985 261 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 385.7985 (pause 0.32) 386.1143 262 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 386.1143 so a lot of bike riding. 387.5270 263 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 387.5270 (pause 1.89) 389.4171 264 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 389.4171 [There was-] 389.7904 265 DCB_int_01 389.4171 [Was that because] it was off the beaten path [or just-] 392.0193 266 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 391.3460 [ Yeah it was] off of uh, Queen's Chapel. 393.9153 267 DCB_int_01 393.9592 Mm, mm-hm. 394.3885 268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 394.6435 And so the neighborhood was fairly low traffic, enough where my mom felt comfortable 400.7275 269 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 400.7275 (pause 0.58) 401.3090 270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 401.3090 with uh, me, you know, being able to ride my bike 404.3864 271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 404.3864 (pause 0.69) 405.0788 272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 405.0788 with at least one other person. 406.8276 273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 406.8276 (pause 0.21) 407.0329 274 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 407.0329 So, yeah. 408.0173 275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 408.0173 (pause 0.29) 408.3055 276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 408.3055 Maybe within like- 409.5461 277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 409.5461 (pause 0.65) 410.1984 278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 410.1984 we could kind of g- /well,/ 411.3464 279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 411.3464 (pause 1.45) 412.7916 280 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 412.7916 yeah I'm trying to remember, I don't remember really having much of a curfew but 416.3504 281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 416.3504 (pause 0.36) 416.7066 282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 416.7066 I've never been one of those ch- children- push boundaries, so. 420.0882 283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 420.0882 (pause 0.69) 420.7777 284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 420.7777 She never really had to worry about it. 422.5345 285 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 422.5345 (pause 1.27) 423.8031 286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 423.8031 Um, 425.1277 287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 425.1277 (pause 0.20) 425.3250 288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 425.3250 yeah, we didn't go too far. 427.7437 289 DCB_int_01 427.7081 Mm. 427.9641 290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 427.9262 There was a park nearby so we could go to the playground over there, ride our bikes to that. 432.3135 291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 432.8817 But that's 433.3099 292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 433.3099 (pause 0.33) 433.6421 293 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 433.6421 pretty much what I remember from that. 435.7831 294 DCB_int_01 436.2873 So you stayed there until you were fourteen? 438.5025 295 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 438.6977 Yeah. 439.1057 296 DCB_int_01 439.3460 And so before we move on to 441.2228 297 DCB_int_01 441.2228 (pause 0.16) 441.3829 298 DCB_int_01 441.3829 when you came into DC, 443.3394 299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 443.3090 Uh-huh. 443.6132 300 DCB_int_01 443.9693 tell me about 444.7760 301 DCB_int_01 444.7760 (pause 0.63) 445.4060 302 DCB_int_01 445.4060 um, elementary s- cause you were elementary and middle school in PG? 448.4674 303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 448.7355 Yeah. 449.2718 304 DCB_int_01 449.7052 Were they 450.3305 305 DCB_int_01 450.3305 (pause 0.16) 450.4896 306 DCB_int_01 450.4896 like, 450.8177 307 DCB_int_01 450.8177 (pause 0.43) 451.2499 308 DCB_int_01 451.2499 memorable years? Were they kind of just 453.2873 309 DCB_int_01 453.2873 (pause 0.15) 453.4389 310 DCB_int_01 453.4389 run of the mill? 454.3033 311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 455.7892 Uh, 457.1739 312 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 457.1739 (pause 0.34) 457.5140 313 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 457.5140 what I remember about 459.0948 314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 459.0948 (pause 0.14) 459.2308 315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 459.2308 school at least in elementary at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ bef- 461.6880 316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 461.6880 (pause 0.12) 461.8052 317 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 461.8052 that was 462.2133 318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 462.2133 (pause 0.54) 462.7497 319 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 462.7497 through third grade 463.9262 320 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 463.9262 (pause 0.65) 464.5785 321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 464.5785 was that it was- 466.4114 322 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 466.4114 (pause 0.38) 466.7956 323 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 466.7956 I don't know too much about Montessori, what I remember being told was that it's like, a very hands-on 471.4289 324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 471.4289 (pause 0.22) 471.6470 325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 471.6470 uh, 472.2724 326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 472.2724 (pause 0.20) 472.4674 327 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 472.4674 type of program so I remember not having homework. 474.8417 328 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 474.8417 (pause 0.85) 475.6901 329 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 475.6901 Um, that was more integrated it was- 479.0037 330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 479.0037 (pause 0.61) 479.6132 331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 479.6132 I remember there being mostly white kids. 481.7598 332 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 481.7598 (pause 0.27) 482.0263 333 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 482.0263 I mean that's pretty much my entire educational experience, except for /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 485.0731 334 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 485.0731 (pause 0.38) 485.4519 335 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 485.4519 Um, 486.1414 336 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 486.1414 (pause 0.20) 486.3415 337 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 486.3415 486.4535 338 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 486.4535 (pause 1.67) 488.1223 339 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 488.1223 and yeah, that- so that's really what I remember from New City. 490.9648 340 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 490.9648 (pause 0.12) 491.0849 341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 491.0849 I liked my 491.9133 342 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 491.9133 (pause 0.40) 492.3135 343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 492.3135 third grade teacher, 493.4668 344 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 493.4668 (pause 0.24) 493.7101 345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 493.7101 or first through third grade teacher. 495.1028 346 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 495.1028 (pause 0.92) 496.0272 347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 496.0272 Uh, small class, I feel like in third grade it was only two of us. 499.9342 348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 499.9342 (pause 0.28) 500.2104 349 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 500.2104 But we were in a classroom with other grades, 502.7316 350 DCB_int_01 502.7595 Oh, [okay.] 503.4639 351 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 503.2238 [So we] would do- they could 504.3375 352 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 504.5856 kind of individualize what we're doing 506.8186 353 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 506.8186 (pause 0.70) 507.5190 354 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 507.5190 within a classroom of 508.9123 355 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 508.9123 (pause 0.44) 509.3570 356 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 509.3570 not that many 510.2334 357 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 510.2334 (pause 0.20) 510.4295 358 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 510.4295 people. 510.9629 359 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 510.9629 (pause 0.71) 511.6701 360 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 511.6701 Um, so fourth grade was a sh- s- kind of a weird transition cause that was a much more traditional, 517.2059 361 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 517.2059 (pause 0.74) 517.9462 362 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 517.9462 uh, 518.5585 363 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 518.5585 (pause 0.82) 519.3749 364 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 519.3749 school 520.1149 365 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 520.1149 (pause 0.16) 520.2713 366 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 520.2713 setting. 520.9596 367 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 520.9596 (pause 0.10) 521.0557 368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 521.0557 Still really small, m- uh, I feel like in fourth grade maybe there were 524.2504 369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 524.2504 (pause 1.87) 526.1192 370 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 526.1192 twenty, 526.8806 371 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 526.8806 (pause 0.12) 526.9956 372 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 526.9956 somewhere between twenty and thirty kids in the class. 529.4300 373 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 529.4300 (pause 0.66) 530.0943 374 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 530.0943 Um, it was religious, 532.3954 375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 532.3954 (pause 1.14) 533.5371 376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 533.5371 but that was the first time I'd had homework and like traditional 536.8518 377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 536.8518 (pause 0.76) 537.6110 378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 537.6110 lecture and textbook type of learning. 540.9858 379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 540.9858 (pause 1.02) 542.0103 380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 542.0103 Mixed, 543.1009 381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 543.1009 (pause 0.23) 543.3349 382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 543.3349 so it was maybe fifty-ish, fifty-ish. 547.3780 383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 547.3780 (pause 0.48) 547.8582 384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 547.8582 So that was good. 549.4389 385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 549.4389 (pause 1.56) 551.0037 386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 551.0037 551.1157 387 DCB_int_01 551.5011 And at the Montessori school was it- it- was it mixed or was it- 554.2504 388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 554.3464 Montessori I feel like was mostly white, I mean that's going back to third grade so I'm like, uh, I don't remember , I don't- I remem- I mean I feel like there were some black kids there but- 562.5371 389 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 562.5371 (pause 1.82) 564.3575 390 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 564.3575 there were s- there were some. 565.6741 391 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 565.6741 (pause 0.12) 565.7902 392 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 565.7902 But I feel like it was fifty, fifty. 568.2713 393 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 568.2713 (pause 0.40) 568.6755 394 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 568.6755 Didn't feel like much of a transition going from 570.7222 395 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 570.7222 (pause 0.17) 570.8898 396 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 570.8898 elementary to middle. 573.1628 397 DCB_int_01 573.4269 Right. 573.7216 398 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 573.9672 There was a bigger transition going from middle to high school when I went into DC, 580.1272 399 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 580.1272 (pause 0.65) 580.7795 400 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 580.7795 cause 581.6319 401 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 581.6319 (pause 0.55) 582.1814 402 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 582.1814 that was a 583.1099 403 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 583.1099 (pause 0.66) 583.7702 404 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 583.7702 fancier, 584.7266 405 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 584.7266 (pause 0.28) 585.0107 406 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 585.0107 much more co- expensive school, and it was s- six out of sixty, I was 590.6946 407 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 590.6946 (pause 0.30) 590.9907 408 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 590.9907 one of six out of sixty. 592.1673 409 DCB_int_01 593.0237 Gotcha. 593.3970 410 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 593.4919 Um, 594.2374 411 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 594.2374 (pause 2.09) 596.3304 412 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 596.3304 well you're talking about language, okay so one thing I guess I can think of was 600.2815 413 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 600.2815 (pause 0.78) 601.0658 414 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 601.0658 you asked about living in Hyattsville before moving to DC, 606.1494 415 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 606.1494 (pause 0.51) 606.6576 416 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 606.6576 where it was a bunch of kids. 607.9983 417 DCB_int_01 608.0063 Mm-hm. 608.3463 418 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 608.8827 That one I felt like 610.0712 419 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 610.0712 (pause 0.30) 610.3674 420 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 610.3674 there was a little bit of teasing about 612.7497 421 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 612.7497 (pause 0.29) 613.0378 422 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 613.0378 how I talk. 614.0503 423 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 614.0503 (pause 0.98) 615.0347 424 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 615.0347 Um, 615.7748 425 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 615.7748 (pause 0.97) 616.7435 426 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 616.7435 I mean nothing I- I mean I was okay. 618.6369 427 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 618.6369 (pause 0.34) 618.9738 428 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 618.9738 I feel like I- a- I did write my uh, 621.0868 429 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 621.0868 (pause 0.59) 621.6790 430 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 621.6790 /RD-SCHOOL-2/- 622.1473 431 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 622.1473 (pause 0.16) 622.3033 432 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 622.3033 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ uh- well my college 624.3135 433 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 624.3135 (pause 1.13) 625.4460 434 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 625.4460 essays on that and to be honest it was kind of playing the 629.0557 435 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 629.0557 (pause 0.23) 629.2810 436 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 629.2810 race card a little bit but whatever it worked out, so. 631.7690 437 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 631.7690 (pause 0.17) 631.9422 438 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 631.9422 632.0943 439 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 632.0943 (pause 0.53) 632.6226 440 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 632.6226 Uh- [] 633.6950 441 DCB_int_01 633.3949 [What?] So I wanna ask you about that, 635.4519 442 DCB_int_01 635.5611 but I wanna go back 636.4776 443 DCB_int_01 636.4776 (pause 0.48) 636.9578 444 DCB_int_01 636.9578 before I ask you about 638.2365 445 DCB_int_01 638.2365 (pause 0.87) 639.1108 446 DCB_int_01 639.1108 about the [teasing] 640.3153 447 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 639.9672 [I'm gonna] own that. [Huh?] 641.4799 448 DCB_int_01 641.2810 [] 645.1588 449 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 642.0574 [It's anonymous. Huh? ] 645.6030 450 DCB_int_01 646.2113 How was- 647.1637 451 DCB_int_01 647.1637 (pause 0.19) 647.3570 452 DCB_int_01 647.3570 you said your third grade teacher was your favorite, 649.6501 453 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 649.7261 Mm-hm. 650.1448 454 DCB_int_01 650.3504 like, 650.6344 455 DCB_int_01 650.6344 (pause 0.30) 650.9387 456 DCB_int_01 650.9387 what- 651.2694 457 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 651.4149 [Why?] 651.8991 458 DCB_int_01 651.5510 [who was] it or- 652.6035 459 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 653.0157 She was just very- she was stern but in a way that was- 659.0730 460 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 659.0730 (pause 0.34) 659.4091 461 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 659.4091 that I respected I feel like 661.9291 462 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 661.9291 (pause 0.94) 662.8707 463 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 662.8707 as much as I can remember feeling that way as someone who's you know, how old are you in third grade like, nine? Eight? I feel like she 669.7311 464 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 669.7311 (pause 0.38) 670.1072 465 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 670.1072 demanded the most and out of me, it was 671.6640 466 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 671.6640 (pause 0.14) 671.8012 467 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 671.8012 hard on me but 672.7097 468 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 672.7097 (pause 0.23) 672.9418 469 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 672.9418 if I did well she rewarded that. 674.7500 470 DCB_int_01 675.0588 Mm. 675.3014 471 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 675.4269 Um, I feel like I went to 678.0241 472 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 678.0241 (pause 0.90) 678.9258 473 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 678.9258 fourth grade prepared even though I had had a 681.3789 474 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 681.3789 (pause 0.23) 681.6070 475 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 681.6070 totally different 682.6995 476 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 682.6995 (pause 1.35) 684.0494 477 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 684.0494 kind of 685.2539 478 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 685.2539 (pause 0.14) 685.3940 479 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 685.3940 exper- feel like ev- a lot of the kids 687.0307 480 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 687.0307 (pause 0.28) 687.3109 481 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 687.3109 at my middle school had gone to 689.2749 482 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 689.2749 (pause 0.62) 689.8933 483 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 689.8933 that same school for third grade or 691.6770 484 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 691.6770 (pause 0.29) 691.9622 485 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 691.9622 prior [so they] were used to homework and things like that. 694.0112 486 DCB_int_01 692.5588 [Mm-hm.] 692.7882 487 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 694.3834 So I feel like I was still prepared, it wasn't a difficult transition 699.1668 488 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 699.1668 (pause 0.53) 699.6950 489 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 699.6950 having homework and writing papers and 702.1054 490 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 702.1054 (pause 0.46) 702.5696 491 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 702.5696 having real projects which I just never had 705.3469 492 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 705.3469 (pause 0.24) 705.5870 493 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 705.5870 before that, so. 706.9836 494 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 706.9836 (pause 0.88) 707.8613 495 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 707.8613 Mm. 708.6839 496 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 708.6839 (pause 0.81) 709.4900 497 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 709.4900 709.5741 498 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 709.5741 (pause 0.36) 709.9302 499 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 709.9302 That's what I remember, I remember my parents also really liked her too. 712.6436 500 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 712.6436 (pause 0.82) 713.4639 501 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 713.4639 Um, 714.0572 502 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 714.0572 (pause 1.12) 715.1819 503 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 715.1819 I don't know I guess it was two third graders she really worked with me, and uh, she's the person who taught me to read so I think it was like, you spend three years with someone [especially] at that age 723.7711 504 DCB_int_01 722.6029 [Mm.] 722.7981 505 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 724.1993 and they really work with you 725.4819 506 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 725.4819 (pause 0.62) 726.1054 507 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 726.1054 um, 727.0307 508 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 727.0307 (pause 0.28) 727.3059 509 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 727.3059 727.5020 510 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 727.5020 (pause 0.32) 727.8262 511 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 727.8262 I feel like that's probably why she was my [favorite.] 729.5870 512 DCB_int_01 729.1468 [So you had] her all first, kindergarten, first, second- or [first, sec-] 732.1915 513 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 731.5691 [First grade], second grade, and third grade, [yeah. Mm-hm.] 734.8186 514 DCB_int_01 733.8862 [Gotcha, okay. So] they kind of followed you along the pa- I mean [well it's a small school.] 737.9395 515 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 736.8636 [Yeah cause I think you stayed] in your s- in that s- I feel like I stayed in that same room. 740.9129 516 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 741.3669 Cause by the time we got to third grade it was only two of us. 744.2014 517 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 744.2014 (pause 0.28) 744.4856 518 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 744.4856 And I don't know if they were- I don't know if they were phasing out 746.4825 519 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 746.4825 (pause 0.36) 746.8387 520 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 746.8387 that 747.1893 521 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 747.1893 (pause 0.12) 747.3069 522 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 747.3069 I have no idea but I know it was only two of us 750.4736 523 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 750.4736 (pause 0.60) 751.0698 524 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 751.0698 by the time we got to third grade and I just remember that y- 754.5915 525 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 754.5915 (pause 0.31) 754.9048 526 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 754.9048 they still s- had you separate by like what 757.1819 527 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 757.1819 (pause 0.27) 757.4540 528 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 757.4540 I'm doing 758.3504 529 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 758.3504 (pause 0.68) 759.0267 530 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 759.0267 mathematically is different /from/ what these kids- group of kids is- is doing. 763.1545 531 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 763.1545 (pause 0.51) 763.6621 532 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 763.6621 So that's how they did it from what I remember. 765.5750 533 DCB_int_01 765.7831 And now [going back t-] 766.9276 534 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 766.1513 [That's taking a-] a dive 768.1374 535 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 768.3495 in the memory bank, but that's what I remember. 770.6706 536 DCB_int_01 771.3669 Now going back to 772.9956 537 DCB_int_01 772.9956 (pause 0.14) 773.1329 538 DCB_int_01 773.1329 the whole being teased, cause I thought it was really cute how you were describing it. 777.4729 539 DCB_int_01 777.4729 (pause 0.66) 778.1312 540 DCB_int_01 778.1312 Why were you teased? Or what do you feel like- 780.7857 541 DCB_int_01 780.7857 (pause 0.38) 781.1659 542 DCB_int_01 781.1659 when you- like, what [did you write about, yeah.] 783.3749 543 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 781.9502 [What do I remember? Being taught] uh, 783.9272 544 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 784.0072 that 784.2205 545 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 784.2205 (pause 0.16) 784.3834 546 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 784.3834 I talk 784.8036 547 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 784.8036 (pause 0.24) 785.0449 548 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 785.0449 white. 785.4022 549 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 785.4022 (pause 0.25) 785.6492 550 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 785.6492 And 786.8265 551 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 786.8265 (pause 1.58) 788.4105 552 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 788.4105 I mean I'd grown up- 789.7711 553 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 789.7711 (pause 0.30) 790.0672 554 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 790.0672 so like my mom, I wouldn't say my parents, 792.3625 555 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 792.3625 (pause 0.26) 792.6256 556 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 792.6256 I love my dad very much but he was not the activity person, like figure out the activities for me, so. 797.7720 557 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 797.7720 (pause 0.57) 798.3375 558 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 798.3375 Um, 799.0295 559 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 799.0295 (pause 0.31) 799.3420 560 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 799.3420 my mom always made sure to 801.2068 561 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 801.2068 (pause 0.18) 801.3869 562 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 801.3869 try to keep me balanced between, 803.8149 563 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 803.8149 (pause 1.03) 804.8457 564 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 804.8457 even though I- 805.4420 565 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 805.4420 (pause 0.50) 805.9422 566 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 805.9422 growing up I was in these white schools that I was always involved in a black activity so growing up it was very busy like, 812.0571 567 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 812.0571 (pause 1.39) 813.4469 568 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 813.4469 ballet class, tap class, they were at the same dance school and it was this- 817.8942 569 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 817.8942 (pause 0.23) 818.1263 570 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 818.1263 it was a black uh, dance school. 820.4874 571 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 820.4874 (pause 0.60) 821.0877 572 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 821.0877 821.1877 573 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 821.1877 (pause 0.20) 821.3891 574 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 821.3891 Uh, and uh, 823.4264 575 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 823.4264 (pause 0.69) 824.1143 576 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 824.1143 church was black. 825.9031 577 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 825.9031 (pause 0.50) 826.3994 578 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 826.3994 So I always had friends, some of 'em I still keep in touch with from way back then 831.7951 579 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 831.7951 (pause 0.60) 832.3954 580 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 832.3954 that were 833.0740 581 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 833.0740 (pause 0.33) 833.4051 582 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 833.4051 outside of school and then 835.7491 583 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 835.7491 (pause 0.32) 836.0703 584 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 836.0703 I'd come to school but 837.1676 585 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 837.1676 (pause 0.42) 837.5910 586 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 837.5910 educationally I'd grown up 839.0917 587 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 839.0917 (pause 0.51) 839.6012 588 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 839.6012 around these white kids, so. 841.8837 589 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 841.8837 (pause 1.84) 843.7271 590 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 843.7271 The English was proper, I'm not saying that 845.8841 591 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 845.8841 (pause 0.26) 846.1454 592 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 846.1454 blacks don't- 847.1227 593 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 847.1227 (pause 0.25) 847.3740 594 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 847.3740 not saying blacks can't speak properly, I'm just saying that, you know when you're young you know you're in middle school, so of course you know. 853.9838 595 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 853.9838 (pause 0.91) 854.8947 596 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 854.8947 And I'm a little nerdy, I'm an only child, I'm a little weird, you know like all that stuff, so it makes it 859.7622 597 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 859.7622 (pause 0.36) 860.1183 598 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 860.1183 pretty easy 861.2909 599 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 861.2909 (pause 0.52) 861.8151 600 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 861.8151 to be 862.5231 601 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 862.5231 (pause 0.84) 863.3610 602 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 863.3610 you know the 864.2037 603 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 864.2037 (pause 0.67) 864.8697 604 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 864.8697 the one to be teased, especially for how I talk, so I used that. I was like, okay well, 868.8916 605 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 868.8916 (pause 0.15) 869.0449 606 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 869.0449 869.1409 607 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 869.1409 (pause 0.36) 869.4971 608 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 869.4971 what can I use for this uh- 871.2899 609 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 871.2899 (pause 2.21) 873.4950 610 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 873.4950 uh, essay? 874.9350 611 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 874.9350 (pause 0.35) 875.2850 612 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 875.2850 You know, cause they say you have to stand out. 877.2663 613 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 877.2663 (pause 0.10) 877.3660 614 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 877.3660 You know, using race I'd- you know, you- you- you're the minority in 881.6439 615 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 881.6439 (pause 0.36) 882.0053 616 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 882.0053 a white environment, especially by the time I was in high school, diversity, diversity, diversity, that was like all they talked about. Not all they talked about, that was a big part of it. 889.5020 617 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 889.5020 (pause 0.56) 890.0583 618 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 890.0583 And I was like, well I'm going to use that, and 893.7240 619 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 893.7240 (pause 0.14) 893.8653 620 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 893.8653 I did. 894.3015 621 DCB_int_01 894.7537 And you got in. 895.4380 622 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 895.4620 895.5501 623 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 895.5501 (pause 0.72) 896.2664 624 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 896.2664 There we go. 897.0424 625 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 897.0424 (pause 0.30) 897.3429 626 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 897.3429 So, 897.8991 627 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 897.8991 (pause 0.41) 898.3073 628 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 898.3073 that is it. 899.0340 629 DCB_int_01 899.1449 How- how big is the gap between you and your brother? 901.4660 630 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 902.6346 Oh, so random story there so he's fif- 906.9658 631 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 906.9658 (pause 1.36) 908.3264 632 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 908.3264 fifty two. 909.1028 633 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 909.1028 (pause 0.82) 909.9232 634 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 909.9232 And I'm 910.3298 635 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 910.3298 (pause 0.52) 910.8476 636 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 910.8476 thirty two. 911.4171 637 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 911.4171 (pause 0.76) 912.1814 638 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 912.1814 Um, my mom 913.6701 639 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 913.6701 (pause 0.70) 914.3704 640 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 914.3704 had him when she was in high school, and she gave him up for adoption and then we found him. 917.6968 641 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 917.6968 (pause 0.79) 918.4856 642 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 918.4856 Which is like a random s- random aside uh, found him in two thousand when I was in- 922.7075 643 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 922.7075 (pause 0.16) 922.8676 644 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 922.8676 when I was eighteen so that's what I mean by like, 925.0658 645 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 925.0658 (pause 0.30) 925.3700 646 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 925.3700 I have a brother 926.2820 647 DCB_int_01 926.6546 Mm. 926.9106 648 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 927.1388 that 927.3948 649 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 927.3948 (pause 0.70) 928.0992 650 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 928.0992 I claim and 929.2130 651 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 929.2130 (pause 0.39) 929.6012 652 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 929.6012 our families are pretty close now but 931.7141 653 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 931.7141 (pause 0.58) 932.2904 654 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 932.2904 growing up 933.2789 655 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 933.2789 (pause 0.12) 933.4029 656 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 933.4029 you know, I didn't even- I knew he existed, my mother told me he existed but I didn't know him, none of us did, 938.4903 657 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 938.4903 (pause 0.19) 938.6786 658 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 938.6786 so. 939.0307 659 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 939.0307 (pause 0.43) 939.4589 660 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 939.4589 That's why I say raised as an only child like, very [much-] 941.7383 661 DCB_int_01 941.6252 [/??/] 941.9453 662 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 941.9813 yeah, not even like, oh I have this brother, no, like- 945.1068 663 DCB_int_01 945.1028 Cause I have a older brother, we're seven- I mean uh, yeah, we're seven years apart. 948.1694 664 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 948.2695 [Okay.] 948.7855 665 DCB_int_01 948.3215 [But] 948.5816 666 DCB_int_01 948.9858 it was enough 949.6701 667 DCB_int_01 949.6701 (pause 0.18) 949.8462 668 DCB_int_01 949.8462 of a gap that he did his own things 952.1152 669 DCB_int_01 952.1152 (pause 0.36) 952.4794 670 DCB_int_01 952.4794 and then 952.9276 671 DCB_int_01 952.9276 (pause 0.19) 953.1209 672 DCB_int_01 953.1209 he left the house and I was still in school so 955.3500 673 DCB_int_01 955.3500 (pause 0.38) 955.7301 674 DCB_int_01 955.7301 [it felt- but you] are like, [really only child yeah, like-] 959.7608 675 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 955.7341 [Oh yeah, no, yeah.] 956.9787 676 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 956.9787 (pause 0.42) 957.3949 677 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 957.3949 [Totally separate lives, yeah.] 959.7795 678 DCB_int_01 960.3815 [So] let's talk about family a little bit, and not necessarily 963.3349 679 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 960.3935 [] 960.7469 680 DCB_int_01 963.7791 just your brother but like you said your families are close knit, is your f- your- 966.9698 681 DCB_int_01 966.9698 (pause 0.33) 967.2979 682 DCB_int_01 967.2979 your core unit of family, are you close knit? Do you guys have traditions? 970.8036 683 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 970.9476 971.0477 684 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 971.0477 (pause 0.35) 971.3958 685 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 971.3958 Well the only family that 975.2268 686 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 975.2268 (pause 1.29) 976.5194 687 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 976.5194 I'm really close with- 978.9858 688 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 978.9858 (pause 0.52) 979.5060 689 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 979.5060 so my mom's family I'm not that close with. 983.3598 690 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 983.3598 (pause 0.40) 983.7572 691 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 983.7572 There's not too many people on that side, most of them are old, like my- 987.7671 692 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 987.7671 (pause 0.13) 987.8951 693 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 987.8951 like my mom- like my g- like, grandparent generation so they've pretty much died at this point. 992.2824 694 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 992.2824 (pause 0.71) 992.9947 695 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 992.9947 And she has a sister, half sister 995.6560 696 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 995.6560 (pause 2.14) 997.7982 697 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 997.7982 um, 998.6835 698 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 998.6835 (pause 0.18) 998.8627 699 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 998.8627 999.1148 700 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 999.1148 (pause 0.79) 999.9071 701 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 999.9071 who 1000.4511 702 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1000.4511 (pause 0.27) 1000.7195 703 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1000.7195 I know but I'm not that close with, 1003.4900 704 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1003.4900 (pause 0.10) 1003.5901 705 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1003.5901 not for any real reasons just their 1005.4709 706 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1005.4709 (pause 0.12) 1005.5910 707 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1005.5910 lives are very different. 1006.6595 708 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1006.6595 (pause 0.16) 1006.8156 709 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1006.8156 Um, 1007.4102 710 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1007.4102 (pause 0.20) 1007.6119 711 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1007.6119 1007.6840 712 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1007.6840 (pause 0.62) 1008.3055 713 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1008.3055 but the family that I'm closer to is my dad's side, and he has 1012.5955 714 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1012.5955 (pause 0.63) 1013.2290 715 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1013.2290 a brother, 1014.0876 716 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1014.0876 (pause 0.41) 1014.5016 717 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1014.5016 a wife- well, 1015.4540 718 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1015.4540 (pause 0.17) 1015.6221 719 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1015.6221 my 1015.8462 720 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1015.8462 (pause 0.55) 1016.3944 721 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1016.3944 1016.4985 722 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1016.4985 (pause 0.86) 1017.3549 723 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1017.3549 my h- my- his br- my dad's brother is married. 1020.2105 724 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1020.2105 (pause 0.46) 1020.6696 725 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1020.6696 And they have two kids, two sons, my cousins. 1023.9352 726 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1023.9352 (pause 0.38) 1024.3153 727 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1024.3153 So I'm closer to them. 1025.4233 728 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1025.4233 (pause 0.70) 1026.1214 729 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1026.1214 1026.1894 730 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1026.1894 (pause 0.28) 1026.4736 731 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1026.4736 That's like the only like blood family, I would say my m- 1029.2148 732 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1029.2148 (pause 0.20) 1029.4149 733 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1029.4149 my mom 1030.3353 734 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1030.3353 (pause 0.08) 1030.4114 735 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1030.4114 has done a very good job of kind of 1032.1374 736 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1032.1374 (pause 0.56) 1032.6937 737 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1032.6937 making fr- like, people from Parkersburg, West Virginia like, 1035.1668 738 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1035.1668 (pause 0.09) 1035.2588 739 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1035.2588 where she off and on grew up, 1036.8516 740 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1036.8516 (pause 0.45) 1037.3050 741 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1037.3050 she's still like super close to t- 1039.5020 742 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1039.5020 (pause 0.34) 1039.8462 743 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1039.8462 several of those women. 1041.1828 744 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1041.1828 (pause 0.46) 1041.6390 745 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1041.6390 So they're 1042.1152 746 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1042.1152 (pause 0.16) 1042.2793 747 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1042.2793 like, my aunts I would say in terms of like 1045.5220 748 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1045.5220 (pause 0.79) 1046.3104 749 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1046.3104 second family, I'm probably 1047.6750 750 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1047.6750 (pause 1.20) 1048.8796 751 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1048.8796 as close to them 1050.4876 752 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1050.4876 (pause 0.36) 1050.8497 753 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1050.8497 as 1051.7111 754 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1051.7111 (pause 0.82) 1052.5265 755 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1052.5265 my 1052.8066 756 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1052.8066 (pause 0.31) 1053.1148 757 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1053.1148 dad's people. 1054.0268 758 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1054.0268 (pause 0.60) 1054.6235 759 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1054.6235 Put it that way, yeah. 1055.5839 760 DCB_int_01 1056.1534 I understand that, I'm very much like the adopted family cause I don't- 1060.1513 761 DCB_int_01 1060.1513 (pause 0.19) 1060.3393 762 DCB_int_01 1060.3393 I don't have anybody here, I moved here. 1062.1225 763 DCB_int_01 1062.1225 (pause 0.62) 1062.7417 764 DCB_int_01 1062.7417 Um, but I have a lot of adopted family that I'm very close- so I'm closer here than I 1066.8950 765 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1067.0329 Yeah. 1067.4782 766 DCB_int_01 1067.5411 you know to real family who I see like 1069.4820 767 DCB_int_01 1069.4820 (pause 0.54) 1070.0263 768 DCB_int_01 1070.0263 once every couple [years.] 1071.8311 769 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1071.6870 [Right.] 1072.4394 770 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1072.5795 So I get to see them pretty often, my f- 1074.8377 771 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1074.8377 (pause 0.29) 1075.1299 772 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1075.1299 brother's 1075.5581 773 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1075.5581 (pause 0.38) 1075.9382 774 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1075.9382 family. 1076.5385 775 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1076.5385 (pause 0.45) 1076.9907 776 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1076.9907 They live in Maryland. 1078.7334 777 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1078.7334 (pause 0.52) 1079.2530 778 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1079.2530 Uh, in terms of like the people that I'm referring to like my aunts like, 1082.3570 779 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1082.3570 (pause 0.34) 1082.6946 780 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1082.6946 growing up we would all take vacations together. 1085.4158 781 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1085.4158 (pause 0.59) 1086.0013 782 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1086.0013 They still- my mom and my aunts and they still take vacations together. 1089.4731 783 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1089.4731 (pause 0.57) 1090.0432 784 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1090.0432 Uh, one of their daughters like, I lived with for a whi- so it's, yeah. 1095.1548 785 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1095.1548 (pause 0.58) 1095.7391 786 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1095.7391 Like growing up- like even now we'll 1097.5599 787 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1097.5599 (pause 0.29) 1097.8493 788 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1097.8493 just out of habit say, oh my cousin, even though we're not cousins cause that's how we were like 1102.7395 789 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1102.7395 (pause 0.12) 1102.8608 790 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1102.8608 taught to refer to each other, so. 1104.6937 791 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1104.6937 (pause 1.14) 1105.8342 792 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1105.8342 Uh, yeah. 1106.6266 793 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1106.6266 (pause 0.17) 1106.7946 794 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1106.7946 [That's basic] background there. 1108.3040 795 DCB_int_01 1106.7986 [So l-] 1107.1068 796 DCB_int_01 1108.8888 So let's talk about 1110.0294 797 DCB_int_01 1110.0294 (pause 0.13) 1110.1614 798 DCB_int_01 1110.1614 this 1110.5696 799 DCB_int_01 1110.5696 (pause 0.19) 1110.7577 800 DCB_int_01 1110.7577 move that you said was 1112.2584 801 DCB_int_01 1112.2584 (pause 0.16) 1112.4185 802 DCB_int_01 1112.4185 drastically different. 1113.4331 803 DCB_int_01 1113.4331 (pause 0.10) 1113.5350 804 DCB_int_01 1113.5350 1113.9096 805 DCB_int_01 1113.9096 (pause 0.08) 1113.9872 806 DCB_int_01 1113.9872 Went from I guess it was 1115.2838 807 DCB_int_01 1115.2838 (pause 0.27) 1115.5491 808 DCB_int_01 1115.5491 middle school-ish when you moved to DC 1117.7782 809 DCB_int_01 1117.7782 (pause 0.33) 1118.1103 810 DCB_int_01 1118.1103 proper, when [you moved to the city.] 1119.7863 811 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1118.7266 [Okay.] 1119.6373 812 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1119.6373 (pause 0.14) 1119.7791 813 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1119.7791 Yeah. 1120.1924 814 DCB_int_01 1120.2233 So 1120.6275 815 DCB_int_01 1120.6275 (pause 0.14) 1120.7715 816 DCB_int_01 1120.7715 what happened- what caused y'all to move to the city, and then how was that like, the first couple years what you remember maybe school or the neighborhood. 1127.9649 817 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1128.5896 Uh, moving to DC, I think my mom's h- I think the house that she was renting- 1134.6611 818 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1134.6611 (pause 0.44) 1135.1059 819 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1135.1059 So we moved into a house after my parents separated and I'm pretty sure the house that we were in 1139.0285 820 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1139.0285 (pause 0.24) 1139.2690 821 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1139.2690 uh, the owner put up for sale. 1140.5256 822 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1140.5256 (pause 0.60) 1141.1219 823 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1141.1219 So we moved in with my grandmom, and she lived on Sixteenth Street, she'd had that house forever, I'm pretty sure it's the house my parents grew up in. 1148.2104 824 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1148.2104 (pause 0.48) 1148.6946 825 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1148.6946 My dad grew up in. 1149.7399 826 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1149.7399 (pause 0.26) 1149.9952 827 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1149.9952 That was the house my dad grew up in. 1151.0197 828 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1151.0197 (pause 0.54) 1151.5571 829 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1151.5571 Um, 1152.1625 830 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1152.1625 (pause 0.27) 1152.4335 831 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1152.4335 so that's why we moved to DC 1153.6541 832 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1153.6541 (pause 0.51) 1154.1623 833 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1154.1623 in another really busy street. 1156.4994 834 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1156.4994 (pause 0.70) 1157.1997 835 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1157.1997 Like, [Sixteenth, yeah.] 1158.6416 836 DCB_int_01 1157.6212 [Sixteenth Street?] 1158.3598 837 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1158.7137 So, 1159.3563 838 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1159.3563 (pause 0.67) 1160.0263 839 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1160.0263 it's like, right near Sixteenth and Military, to give you like a r- yeah, if you n- so, 1164.0561 840 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1164.0561 (pause 0.99) 1165.0498 841 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1165.0498 there again wasn't much 1166.8387 842 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1166.8387 (pause 0.11) 1166.9467 843 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1166.9467 neighborhood activity at that point at fourteen like if I was home, I was home. There was one of my friends from 1172.9025 844 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1172.9025 (pause 1.28) 1174.1833 845 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1174.1833 high school 1175.1259 846 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1175.1259 (pause 0.56) 1175.6852 847 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1175.6852 uh, lived right at 1178.2624 848 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1178.2624 (pause 0.32) 1178.5785 849 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1178.5785 Sixteenth and Military so I was over her house a lot. 1181.9533 850 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1181.9533 (pause 0.42) 1182.3775 851 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1182.3775 And then 1183.6013 852 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1183.6013 (pause 0.83) 1184.4345 853 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1184.4345 another one of my best friends- I'm still friends with these people, 1187.3185 854 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1187.3185 (pause 1.84) 1189.1579 855 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1189.1579 her fam- /h-/ her 1190.8146 856 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1190.8146 (pause 0.32) 1191.1388 857 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1191.1388 family lives in the Gold Coast area like a few blocks the other way, 1194.6536 858 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1194.6536 (pause 0.49) 1195.1459 859 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1195.1459 on Fourteenth, so there were at least two 1198.0952 860 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1198.0952 (pause 1.18) 1199.2770 861 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1199.2770 good girlfriends that I had, 1201.6996 862 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1201.6996 (pause 0.55) 1202.2454 863 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1202.2454 um, 1202.8227 864 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1202.8227 (pause 0.10) 1202.9267 865 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1202.9267 in that neighborhood but it wasn't like, 1205.7520 866 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1205.7520 (pause 0.10) 1205.8480 867 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1205.8480 oh, let's go meet at the- like before where it's like, oh yeah let's ride our- it's, 1210.1353 868 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1210.1353 (pause 0.72) 1210.8596 869 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1210.8596 I'm coming to your house and we're gonna hang out your house or we are going somewhere, like it was, you know- 1216.0826 870 DCB_int_01 1216.3634 It wasn't just hanging on the stoop. 1217.6074 871 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1217.7412 1217.9093 872 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1217.9093 (pause 0.40) 1218.3055 873 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1218.3055 No. 1218.7188 874 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1218.7188 (pause 0.22) 1218.9418 875 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1218.9418 Absolutely not and it wasn't even like I'm walking- well, did I- 1222.3874 876 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1222.3874 (pause 0.37) 1222.7555 877 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1222.7555 I might've walked- did I walk to /RD-NAME-2/ house? 1225.0095 878 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1225.0095 (pause 1.68) 1226.6866 879 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1226.6866 I don't think so, like I remember driving those few blo- I feel like ev- 1230.9898 880 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1230.9898 (pause 0.48) 1231.4660 881 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1231.4660 either one of those houses involved a car. 1233.3109 882 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1233.3109 (pause 0.26) 1233.5750 883 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1233.5750 So, 1234.5074 884 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1234.5074 (pause 0.09) 1234.5955 885 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1234.5955 whether necessary or not. 1235.7760 886 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1235.7760 (pause 0.35) 1236.1214 887 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1236.1214 I think I went to one 1237.9226 888 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1237.9226 (pause 0.70) 1238.6226 889 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1238.6226 hou- the house in the Gold Coast I think I went there once like walked because I didn't have a choice and the air conditioning in my house was broken. 1245.1889 890 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1245.1889 (pause 0.81) 1246.0032 891 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1246.0032 So yeah, it wasn't like a neighborhood-y 1248.4518 892 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1248.4518 (pause 0.98) 1249.4300 893 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1249.4300 hangout type situation. 1251.3749 894 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1251.3749 (pause 0.34) 1251.7151 895 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1251.7151 Which is probably not helpful for you. 1253.2537 896 DCB_int_01 1253.7320 No, [it- it-] 1254.7537 897 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1254.1574 [Oh okay.] 1254.7334 898 DCB_int_01 1254.9378 n- 1255.1791 899 DCB_int_01 1255.1791 (pause 0.56) 1255.7421 900 DCB_int_01 1255.7421 Don't feel like you- I'm looking for one particular thing, it [really is about] 1259.3358 901 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1258.3850 1258.4290 902 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1258.4290 (pause 0.25) 1258.6835 903 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1258.6835 [Okay good.] 1259.3542 904 DCB_int_01 1259.5905 the [stories.] 1260.4412 905 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1260.2348 [Okay.] 1260.7471 906 DCB_int_01 1260.8271 Um, 1261.3433 907 DCB_int_01 1261.3433 (pause 0.08) 1261.4194 908 DCB_int_01 1261.4194 so tell me a little bit about 1263.3118 909 DCB_int_01 1263.3118 (pause 0.33) 1263.6416 910 DCB_int_01 1263.6416 high school. 1264.4350 911 DCB_int_01 1264.4350 (pause 0.19) 1264.6261 912 DCB_int_01 1264.6261 Cause you were in high school- 1265.4985 913 DCB_int_01 1265.4985 (pause 0.29) 1265.7906 914 DCB_int_01 1265.7906 wait, 1266.0347 915 DCB_int_01 1266.0347 (pause 0.24) 1266.2789 916 DCB_int_01 1266.2789 we missed middle school. 1267.2153 917 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1268.1169 Middle school was when I was 1269.6056 918 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1269.6056 (pause 0.16) 1269.7617 919 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1269.7617 in Hyattsville 1270.8822 920 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1270.8822 (pause 0.12) 1270.9983 921 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1270.9983 and that was a lot of bike [riding] 1272.7031 922 DCB_int_01 1272.4309 [That's] the- okay. 1273.2122 923 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1273.2033 with a bunch of k- there were a bunch of kids in the neighborhood around my age. 1276.9382 924 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1277.5745 And like a typical 1278.9752 925 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1278.9752 (pause 0.54) 1279.5154 926 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1279.5154 quiet 1280.1757 927 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1280.1757 (pause 0.11) 1280.2838 928 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1280.2838 neighborhood-y, 1281.6825 929 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1281.6825 (pause 0.71) 1282.3940 930 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1282.3940 it was black, 1283.1593 931 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1283.1593 (pause 1.29) 1284.4469 932 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1284.4469 being teased a little for 1286.2077 933 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1286.2077 (pause 0.18) 1286.3878 934 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1286.3878 the way I speak which is fine. 1287.8692 935 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1287.8692 (pause 0.56) 1288.4340 936 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1288.4340 And then high school when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I also 1292.8380 937 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1292.8380 (pause 0.27) 1293.1094 938 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1293.1094 moved to Sixteenth Street 1294.7662 939 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1294.7662 (pause 0.72) 1295.4865 940 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1295.4865 and- 1296.6611 941 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1296.6611 (pause 0.39) 1297.0472 942 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1297.0472 so it wasn't bike riding and 1299.1854 943 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1299.1854 (pause 0.86) 1300.0498 944 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1300.0498 hanging out really in the neighborhood or anything like [that.] 1302.9151 945 DCB_int_01 1302.6870 [And how] big was /RD-SCHOOL-2/? Like- 1304.3598 946 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1305.2014 So /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is K through twelfth 1308.5534 947 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1308.5534 (pause 0.88) 1309.4354 948 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1309.4354 and 1310.7834 949 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1310.7834 (pause 0.55) 1311.3375 950 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1311.3375 my class, which I believe was typical at least for upper school which is like high school 1316.6535 951 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1316.6535 (pause 0.71) 1317.3615 952 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1317.3615 sixty [kids.] 1319.1322 953 DCB_int_01 1318.0178 [Mm-hm.] 1318.6245 954 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1319.2744 I'm not sure if the middle and l- 1321.8236 955 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1321.8236 (pause 0.12) 1321.9396 956 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1321.9396 lower school class sizes were bigger or smaller. 1324.7301 957 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1324.7301 (pause 0.56) 1325.2944 958 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1325.2944 Um, 1325.8851 959 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1325.8851 (pause 0.39) 1326.2749 960 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1326.2749 1326.3349 961 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1326.3349 (pause 0.19) 1326.5270 962 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1326.5270 and that was a school where not 1328.2998 963 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1328.2998 (pause 0.18) 1328.4811 964 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1328.4811 all of the kids, but I remember a large chunk and I don't remember if it was the majority or half 1332.4664 965 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1332.4664 (pause 0.82) 1333.2833 966 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1333.2833 or- or 1333.7996 967 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1333.7996 (pause 0.38) 1334.1757 968 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1334.1757 slightly less than, a lot of them had gone from at least the middle to the upper if not the lower to the middle to the upper but at least the middle. 1341.6451 969 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1341.6451 (pause 0.46) 1342.1018 970 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1342.1018 So there were a lot of kids who 1344.3349 971 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1344.3349 (pause 1.41) 1345.7435 972 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1345.7435 already knew each other by the time I got there. 1347.7977 973 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1347.7977 (pause 0.55) 1348.3460 974 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1348.3460 Um, 1348.9060 975 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1348.9060 (pause 1.87) 1350.7711 976 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1350.7711 so that was probably a big shift for me, it was a big shift for me. 1355.7825 977 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1355.7825 (pause 0.49) 1356.2749 978 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1356.2749 Because I was used to growing up at least at school with it being [mixed.] 1360.9342 979 DCB_int_01 1360.8182 [Mm-hm.] 1361.2624 980 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1361.3824 And in a different 1362.3069 981 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1362.3069 (pause 0.68) 1362.9872 982 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1362.9872 socio-economi- being surrounded by kids who were middle class like 1366.8718 983 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1366.8718 (pause 0.84) 1367.7146 984 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1367.7146 closer to what my parents were 1370.1679 985 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1370.1679 (pause 0.17) 1370.3330 986 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1370.3330 or on the same page, and then a lot of the kids there, it was mostly white and a lot of them had a lot of money. 1376.4450 987 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1376.4450 (pause 0.74) 1377.1814 988 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1377.1814 My parents are educated but 1378.6301 989 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1378.6301 (pause 0.99) 1379.6185 990 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1379.6185 they're, you know, are not writing checks for fifteen thousand dollars a year to go to anybody's high school, so. 1385.3424 991 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1385.3424 (pause 1.03) 1386.3709 992 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1386.3709 It was a little different. 1387.8396 993 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1387.8396 (pause 0.39) 1388.2330 994 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1388.2330 And it was only six of us 1389.4896 995 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1389.4896 (pause 0.12) 1389.6136 996 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1389.6136 versus like, half. 1390.8656 997 DCB_int_01 1392.2548 Did you [feel like] 1393.7755 998 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1392.6030 [If that makes sense. Ooh], sorry. 1394.1390 999 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1394.4879 Salad in my teeth. 1395.3145 1000 DCB_int_01 1395.3735 Uh-huh. 1395.7762 1001 DCB_int_01 1395.7762 (pause 0.21) 1395.9898 1002 DCB_int_01 1395.9898 Do you feel like 1397.2904 1003 DCB_int_01 1397.2904 (pause 0.59) 1397.8787 1004 DCB_int_01 1397.8787 you had a good experience though? Did you enjoy your high school experience? 1401.9098 1005 DCB_int_01 1401.9098 (pause 0.10) 1402.0138 1006 DCB_int_01 1402.0138 Or not. 1402.6101 1007 DCB_int_01 1402.6101 (pause 0.48) 1403.0863 1008 DCB_int_01 1403.0863 The little side eye kind of [made me-] 1404.5790 1009 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1404.3029 [Uh], 1405.6315 1010 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1405.8328 I appreciated 1406.7235 1011 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1406.7235 (pause 0.40) 1407.1214 1012 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1407.1214 it more after I left. 1409.2664 1013 DCB_int_01 1409.3624 Mm. 1409.6346 1014 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1409.7666 I feel like I was- 1411.7559 1015 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1411.7559 (pause 0.61) 1412.3690 1016 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1412.3690 I liked- 1413.3335 1017 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1413.3335 (pause 0.10) 1413.4375 1018 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1413.4375 when I was t- 1414.2659 1019 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1414.2659 (pause 0.12) 1414.3900 1020 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1414.3900 that was my first choice so when I was looking at schools 1417.9208 1021 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1417.9208 (pause 0.60) 1418.5251 1022 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1418.5251 and went to a bunch of different schools- 1421.4382 1023 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1421.4382 (pause 1.46) 1422.9031 1024 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1422.9031 I had been at private school my whole life with the exception- I forgot there was 1426.4700 1025 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1426.4700 (pause 0.50) 1426.9743 1026 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1426.9743 a month maybe that I was at public school, Hyattsville Middle, 1430.4078 1027 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1430.4078 (pause 0.09) 1430.4971 1028 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1430.4971 cause that's- I was begging my mom to put me in public school and she had done some volunteer work with 1434.8471 1029 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1434.8471 (pause 0.64) 1435.4874 1030 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1435.4874 Hyattsville Middle, so I really wanted to go, and then I got there and I was totally overwhelmed like, 1440.7511 1031 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1440.7511 (pause 0.46) 1441.2113 1032 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1441.2113 getting lost in the- I mean this sounds terrible but it's true. Getting lost like trying to find my class. 1446.1371 1033 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1446.1371 (pause 0.53) 1446.6710 1034 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1446.6710 Because my mom had done volunteer work they had put me in these higher level math class and I'm sitting there like I have no clue what's going on. 1452.9371 1035 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1452.9371 (pause 0.40) 1453.3353 1036 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1453.3353 It was- I'm used to s- you know, 1455.4936 1037 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1455.4936 (pause 0.59) 1456.0818 1038 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1456.0818 if you're stuck, like I'm used to small class sizes, people being able to work with you, I didn't have access to any of that. 1460.6132 1039 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1460.6132 (pause 0.55) 1461.1654 1040 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1461.1654 And it was just like, okay well thank you so much for letting my have my way, can I go back? So I went right back to /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 1466.2330 1041 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1466.2330 (pause 0.43) 1466.6612 1042 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1466.6612 That was seventh grade. 1467.6136 1043 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1467.6136 (pause 0.46) 1468.0698 1044 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1468.0698 So at that point 1469.0645 1045 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1469.0645 (pause 0.63) 1469.6946 1046 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1469.6946 when I went to high school I was 1471.3879 1047 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1471.3879 (pause 1.43) 1472.8173 1048 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1472.8173 pretty much all private school and I'd had enough of my- a public school experience to know that 1477.2873 1049 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1477.2873 (pause 0.39) 1477.6795 1050 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1477.6795 I- I- 1478.2035 1051 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1478.2035 (pause 0.21) 1478.4171 1052 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1478.4171 I got lost, so I just said, you know let's 1480.9502 1053 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1480.9502 (pause 0.36) 1481.3144 1054 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1481.3144 keep it to what I know. 1482.1828 1055 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1482.1828 (pause 0.62) 1482.7991 1056 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1482.7991 And uh, I feel like I might've looked at one public school and I can't remember which one it is. 1487.7198 1057 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1487.7198 (pause 0.60) 1488.3229 1058 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1488.3229 But it was mostly privates but 1489.7315 1059 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1489.7315 (pause 0.35) 1490.0849 1060 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1490.0849 t- uh, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was my top choice, I was on the waitlist. 1494.0101 1061 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1494.0101 (pause 0.93) 1494.9392 1062 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1494.9392 I got in 1496.6892 1063 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1496.6892 (pause 0.11) 1496.8012 1064 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1496.8012 and I l- I really was excited. 1498.9022 1065 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1498.9022 (pause 0.77) 1499.6746 1066 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1499.6746 I liked how open the school looked, there's like bright 1503.9018 1067 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1503.9018 (pause 0.20) 1504.1059 1068 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1504.1059 sun roof atriums, small classes, things that I had known from that 1509.0574 1069 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1509.0574 (pause 0.17) 1509.2294 1070 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1509.2294 one 1509.7457 1071 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1509.7457 (pause 0.52) 1510.2619 1072 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1510.2619 quick public school experience that 1512.2188 1073 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1512.2188 (pause 0.80) 1513.0152 1074 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1513.0152 I know I like to have 1514.6432 1075 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1514.6432 (pause 0.09) 1514.7372 1076 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1514.7372 just to be able to learn. 1515.8817 1077 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1515.8817 (pause 0.13) 1516.0098 1078 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1516.0098 So um, 1517.2824 1079 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1517.2824 (pause 0.36) 1517.6466 1080 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1517.6466 1517.8266 1081 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1517.8266 (pause 2.21) 1520.0409 1082 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1520.0409 I was excited about that, the teachers seemed nice 1523.7226 1083 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1523.7226 (pause 0.49) 1524.2108 1084 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1524.2108 and when I started 1525.9036 1085 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1525.9036 (pause 0.18) 1526.0797 1086 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1526.0797 I can't say they weren't nice, I just- 1528.7261 1087 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1528.7261 (pause 0.40) 1529.1223 1088 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1529.1223 I don't think I was prepared for 1531.9862 1089 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1531.9862 (pause 0.96) 1532.9493 1090 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1532.9493 what it was like to shift from being 1535.9667 1091 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1535.9667 (pause 0.21) 1536.1788 1092 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1536.1788 such a minority, 1537.7488 1093 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1537.7488 (pause 0.58) 1538.3330 1094 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1538.3330 like going from like fifty fifty, 1540.5060 1095 DCB_int_01 1540.4700 Mm. 1540.7181 1096 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1540.9462 being around kids who you'd kind of grown up with from like 1543.5634 1097 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1543.5634 (pause 0.13) 1543.6915 1098 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1543.6915 being ten years old to like fourteen. 1546.0978 1099 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1546.0978 (pause 1.77) 1547.8707 1100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1547.8707 You know where 1548.5133 1101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1548.5133 (pause 0.19) 1548.7031 1102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1548.7031 everyone's kind of in the same page to like 1551.4375 1103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1551.4375 (pause 2.44) 1553.8747 1104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1553.8747 white, wealthier children. 1556.0160 1105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1556.0160 (pause 0.58) 1556.5932 1106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1556.5932 And it wasn't that anyone was mean. 1558.8102 1107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1558.8102 (pause 0.46) 1559.2704 1108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1559.2704 And then I just remember you know I'm still 1561.8850 1109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1561.8850 (pause 0.54) 1562.4251 1110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1562.4251 in these activities I'm still 1564.0024 1111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1564.0024 (pause 0.45) 1564.4540 1112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1564.4540 going to my church, I'm- 1566.6687 1113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1566.6687 (pause 0.81) 1567.4834 1114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1567.4834 I wasn't doing dance anymore but 1570.4780 1115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1570.4780 (pause 0.22) 1570.6941 1116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1570.6941 I had switched to a black swim team I feel like was like my main 1574.9761 1117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1574.9761 (pause 0.79) 1575.7697 1118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1575.7697 activity 1576.5821 1119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1576.5821 (pause 0.18) 1576.7662 1120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1576.7662 that point, I was terrible at that. 1578.3509 1121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1578.3509 (pause 0.52) 1578.8671 1122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1578.8671 [Um, oh yeah I was t-] 1580.3118 1123 DCB_int_01 1579.3914 [] 1580.3300 1124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1580.5639 that's a story. Um, 1582.2899 1125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1582.2899 (pause 0.44) 1582.7301 1126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1582.7301 an embarrassing one. 1583.4305 1127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1583.4305 (pause 0.45) 1583.8827 1128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1583.8827 And- but I mean I still had all these friends so I was little like- 1588.1171 1129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1588.1171 (pause 1.05) 1589.1623 1130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1589.1623 a little jealous I guess of 1590.9472 1131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1590.9472 (pause 0.47) 1591.4194 1132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1591.4194 you know them kind of going to school and 1594.5781 1133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1594.5781 (pause 1.36) 1595.9347 1134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1595.9347 being part of an experience of, you know, community and 1600.7531 1135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1600.7531 (pause 0.94) 1601.6946 1136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1601.6946 you didn't really have that at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1603.4435 1137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1603.4435 (pause 0.16) 1603.6075 1138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1603.6075 But it wasn't that it was an unpleasant atmosphere or anything like that 1606.6518 1139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1606.6518 (pause 0.12) 1606.7702 1140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1606.7702 and 1607.1475 1141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1607.1475 (pause 0.22) 1607.3704 1142 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1607.3704 I know I got a good education, I recognized that when I was there but it was just kind of a- 1611.0614 1143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1611.0614 (pause 0.44) 1611.4976 1144 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1611.4976 in that sense it was kind of a drag. 1613.2024 1145 DCB_int_01 1613.4505 Hm. 1613.8066 1146 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1614.4149 So like, 1615.3469 1147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1615.3469 (pause 1.57) 1616.9133 1148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1616.9133 I made friends with this one black girl, 1619.0079 1149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1619.0079 (pause 2.07) 1621.0792 1150 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1621.0792 and then um, that didn't really work out. 1624.2139 1151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1624.2139 (pause 0.24) 1624.4580 1152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1624.4580 Um, 1625.2180 1153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1625.2180 (pause 0.53) 1625.7466 1154 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1625.7466 1625.8186 1155 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1625.8186 (pause 0.07) 1625.8867 1156 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1625.8867 she had some issues, I made friends with another one who I'm still friends with to this day so that was nice. 1629.9978 1157 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1629.9978 (pause 0.62) 1630.6141 1158 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1630.6141 And there were a couple like, non-black kids that I am actually still friends with 1635.0143 1159 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1635.0143 (pause 0.63) 1635.6416 1160 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1635.6416 but I just missed- I just missed being around a mixed environment. 1640.0549 1161 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1640.0549 (pause 0.92) 1640.9733 1162 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1640.9733 Um, 1641.5560 1163 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1641.5560 (pause 0.63) 1642.1819 1164 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1642.1819 so it wasn't anything wrong with the school, it was nothing they did it was just like 1645.5594 1165 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1645.5594 (pause 0.44) 1645.9997 1166 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1645.9997 I'm not used to feeling 1647.9796 1167 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1647.9796 (pause 0.96) 1648.9382 1168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1648.9382 kind of 1649.4705 1169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1649.4705 (pause 0.29) 1649.7626 1170 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1649.7626 outsider-ish. 1651.1232 1171 DCB_int_01 1651.2193 Right. 1651.5206 1172 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1651.6355 But it was cool. 1652.3461 1173 DCB_int_01 1652.7732 So let me ask you two questions based on what you were just saying. 1656.0824 1174 DCB_int_01 1656.0824 (pause 0.44) 1656.5270 1175 DCB_int_01 1656.5270 One- the second one, 1657.6555 1176 DCB_int_01 1657.6555 (pause 0.60) 1658.2530 1177 DCB_int_01 1658.2530 which I'll ask, but we can put it on the back burner. 1660.4420 1178 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1660.9102 [Mm-hm.] 1661.2064 1179 DCB_int_01 1661.0343 [Swimming], I wanna hear about that. 1662.6510 1180 DCB_int_01 1663.0952 [Um-] 1663.6219 1181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1663.2553 [Oh yeah] cause you want stories. 1664.2846 1182 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1664.6332 Well- 1665.0654 1183 DCB_int_01 1665.1854 But just because you said it was funny. 1666.7221 1184 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1666.8262 well, 1667.4195 1185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1667.4195 (pause 0.13) 1667.5465 1186 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1667.5465 it wa- mm go ahead, alright. 1669.8476 1187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1669.8476 (pause 0.17) 1670.0157 1188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1670.0157 We can put that [one on the back burner.] 1671.5056 1189 DCB_int_01 1670.5011 [] 1671.2415 1190 DCB_int_01 1671.6296 And then the other one is church, cause I know that's a big part. 1675.1393 1191 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1675.1513 Yeah. 1675.5074 1192 DCB_int_01 1675.5474 And like you just- you've 1676.6480 1193 DCB_int_01 1676.6480 (pause 0.23) 1676.8733 1194 DCB_int_01 1676.8733 said over and over that that's been a big part of your 1678.9863 1195 DCB_int_01 1678.9863 (pause 0.36) 1679.3464 1196 DCB_int_01 1679.3464 activities, so [what like-] what did your church mean to you 1682.5199 1197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1680.4669 [Yeah.] 1680.8271 1198 DCB_int_01 1682.9213 um, to your family? 1684.5140 1199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1684.5340 Sure. 1684.9022 1200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1684.9022 (pause 0.96) 1685.8627 1201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1685.8627 So I went to- well there was w- 1690.8782 1202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1690.8782 (pause 0.46) 1691.3424 1203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1691.3424 When I was a kid, 1692.2797 1204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1692.2797 (pause 0.43) 1692.7071 1205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1692.7071 my parents were together, it was like my grandma wanted to go to- my dad's mom 1696.6101 1206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1696.6101 (pause 0.29) 1696.9022 1207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1696.9022 was a member of 1698.0102 1208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1698.0102 (pause 0.31) 1698.3229 1209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1698.3229 a church 1699.0469 1210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1699.0469 (pause 0.64) 1699.6835 1211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1699.6835 All Souls, 1700.4319 1212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1700.4319 (pause 0.36) 1700.7892 1213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1700.7892 and I feel like that was mixed. 1702.9142 1214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1702.9142 (pause 0.55) 1703.4665 1215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1703.4665 And then 1704.4469 1216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1704.4469 (pause 0.82) 1705.2673 1217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1705.2673 my best girlfriend now that's how we became friends, we went to dance school together. 1711.6345 1218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1711.6345 (pause 0.69) 1712.3290 1219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1712.3290 The black dance school. 1713.5976 1220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1713.5976 (pause 0.54) 1714.1339 1221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1714.1339 And sleepover on a Saturday had me with her family on Sunday 1719.9498 1222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1719.9498 (pause 0.65) 1720.5981 1223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1720.5981 to- at this black church, People's 1723.2487 1224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1723.2487 (pause 0.25) 1723.4994 1225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1723.4994 Congregational. 1724.4994 1226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1724.4994 (pause 0.94) 1725.4375 1227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1725.4375 Um, 1726.0175 1228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1726.0175 (pause 0.18) 1726.2019 1229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1726.2019 and uh, 1727.3824 1230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1727.3824 (pause 0.19) 1727.5705 1231 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1727.5705 I just fell in love with it mainly because I feel like at 1730.9572 1232 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1730.9572 (pause 0.28) 1731.2334 1233 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1731.2334 All Souls there weren't as many- 1733.2944 1234 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1733.2944 (pause 0.48) 1733.7786 1235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1733.7786 like the- the kid program it existed but it wasn't 1736.5946 1236 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1736.5946 (pause 1.46) 1738.0578 1237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1738.0578 that 1738.3325 1238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1738.3325 (pause 0.26) 1738.5901 1239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1738.5901 big a deal. 1739.2744 1240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1739.2744 (pause 0.32) 1739.5905 1241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1739.5905 And then when I went to Sunday school with my friend 1743.0614 1242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1743.0614 (pause 0.43) 1743.4936 1243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1743.4936 it was just 1745.1343 1244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1745.1343 (pause 1.90) 1747.0392 1245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1747.0392 a bunch of kids my age, they were engaged in what was going on so it was nice to like- 1752.8385 1246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1752.8385 (pause 0.54) 1753.3754 1247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1753.3754 It felt like they had a bigger sense of- a stronger sense of community as much as I could feel that, I c- I'm sure I couldn't articulate that when I was in like third grade or whatever but I felt that. 1763.1263 1248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1763.1263 (pause 0.52) 1763.6426 1249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1763.6426 And I liked it and I 1765.1553 1250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1765.1553 (pause 0.36) 1765.5154 1251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1765.5154 like 1765.8288 1252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1765.8288 (pause 0.34) 1766.1730 1253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1766.1730 told my mom how much I liked it and 1767.9223 1254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1767.9223 (pause 0.50) 1768.4220 1255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1768.4220 she was like, alright, I'll give it a shot, and she still goes there to this day, yeah. 1773.2625 1256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1773.2625 (pause 0.78) 1774.0418 1257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1774.0418 And- 1774.8325 1258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1774.8325 (pause 0.46) 1775.2944 1259 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1775.2944 So I'm really good friends still with 1777.5034 1260 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1777.5034 (pause 0.65) 1778.1557 1261 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1778.1557 my friend who introduced me to the church who I went to dance school with and now m- her mother and my mother are really close now too so our families have become very close. 1785.6611 1262 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1785.6611 (pause 0.67) 1786.3300 1263 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1786.3300 Um, 1786.9823 1264 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1786.9823 (pause 0.78) 1787.7586 1265 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1787.7586 but I would say that that- 1788.5510 1266 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1788.5510 (pause 0.23) 1788.7831 1267 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1788.7831 that bond was between dance and mainly church. 1792.7822 1268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1792.7822 (pause 0.60) 1793.3784 1269 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1793.3784 Cause all- both our families continue to attend that church 1796.0797 1270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1796.0797 (pause 0.40) 1796.4771 1271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1796.4771 beyond our time at the dance school. 1798.9462 1272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1798.9462 (pause 0.75) 1799.6986 1273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1799.6986 [If that makes sense.] 1800.6746 1274 DCB_int_01 1799.7826 [Are you actively] involved in church now like- 1802.6678 1275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1802.6892 No. 1802.9945 1276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1802.9945 (pause 0.60) 1803.5936 1277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1803.5936 but growing up- so to 1804.9262 1278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1804.9262 (pause 0.13) 1805.0543 1279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1805.0543 t- I guess 1805.5065 1280 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1805.5065 (pause 0.78) 1806.2829 1281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1806.2829 talk more about that like, 1807.5074 1282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1807.5074 (pause 0.45) 1807.9596 1283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1807.9596 so I liked the k- the- the youth aspect of it. 1811.8106 1284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1811.8106 (pause 0.82) 1812.6310 1285 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1812.6310 1812.6990 1286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1812.6990 (pause 0.18) 1812.8751 1287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1812.8751 Cause they had class every Sunday, they had a youth usher program, 1817.7226 1288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1817.7226 (pause 0.37) 1818.0948 1289 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1818.0948 I could tell the kids were pretty close. 1820.3788 1290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1820.3788 (pause 0.55) 1820.9293 1291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1820.9293 Um, 1821.5853 1292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1821.5853 (pause 0.17) 1821.7577 1293 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1821.7577 I got confirmed there, I'm still friends with those people who I was confirmed with in like sixth grade. 1827.9618 1294 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1827.9618 (pause 0.71) 1828.6741 1295 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1828.6741 It was just very 1830.3909 1296 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1830.3909 (pause 0.10) 1830.4910 1297 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1830.4910 close knit, 1831.4594 1298 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1831.4594 (pause 0.10) 1831.5554 1299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1831.5554 the people there. Um, 1833.3255 1300 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1833.3255 (pause 2.27) 1835.5985 1301 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1835.5985 it was a lot of people- 1837.3594 1302 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1837.3594 (pause 0.86) 1838.2158 1303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1838.2158 How do I do this? There were- 1839.9298 1304 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1839.9298 (pause 0.87) 1840.8022 1305 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1840.8022 I hate how I sound sometimes but I'm trying to give you the real. 1843.6004 1306 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1843.6004 (pause 0.44) 1844.0449 1307 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1844.0449 Uh, it was a lot of 1845.7817 1308 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1845.7817 (pause 0.80) 1846.5861 1309 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1846.5861 professional 1847.9027 1310 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1847.9027 (pause 0.38) 1848.2789 1311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1848.2789 um, black families there. 1850.4719 1312 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1850.4719 (pause 0.65) 1851.1254 1313 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1851.1254 So it was just very rela- it mean it was just very relatable to my life it was like a bunch of kids who were kind of in the s- a lot of them were 1856.7985 1314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1856.7985 (pause 0.28) 1857.0814 1315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1857.0814 at places like Maret or uh, 1859.6546 1316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1859.6546 (pause 0.41) 1860.0668 1317 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1860.0668 1860.9352 1318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1860.9352 (pause 0.28) 1861.2113 1319 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1861.2113 what do you call it? 1861.8556 1320 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1861.8556 (pause 0.20) 1862.0557 1321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1862.0557 Uh, NCS things like that, and there were also kids who were in public school so I mean you had all of that. 1866.4029 1322 DCB_int_01 1866.3509 Mm-hm. 1866.6589 1323 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1867.0232 Just a bunch of middle class black families so that was nice. 1870.4340 1324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1870.4340 (pause 0.50) 1870.9342 1325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1870.9342 Um, they'd have 1872.6150 1326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1872.6150 (pause 1.07) 1873.6847 1327 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1873.6847 plays and you know the typical church stuff. 1876.8607 1328 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1876.8607 (pause 0.70) 1877.5625 1329 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1877.5625 Um, 1878.1468 1330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1878.1468 (pause 2.04) 1880.1877 1331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1880.1877 there was a Christmas program that 1882.3731 1332 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1882.3731 (pause 0.57) 1882.9462 1333 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1882.9462 you know we still go to on- you know up 1885.1593 1334 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1885.1593 (pause 0.11) 1885.2713 1335 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1885.2713 to now like, it was just that very close thing, like you knew you were gonna get the same formula every Sunday. Our family sat in the balcony, you knew what you were gonna g- like, you just always knew what you were gonna get. 1896.2869 1336 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1896.2869 (pause 0.64) 1896.9312 1337 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1896.9312 Um, and it was- I liked that. 1898.9898 1338 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1898.9898 (pause 0.67) 1899.6616 1339 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1899.6616 And so like, my mom became involved, I was involved up until the point where I was like, listen I'm not doing these 1906.5340 1340 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1906.5340 (pause 0.13) 1906.6621 1341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1906.6621 plays anymore like, I'm old. 1908.0548 1342 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1908.0548 (pause 0.11) 1908.1668 1343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1908.1668 Like, 1908.3281 1344 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1908.3281 (pause 0.81) 1909.1393 1345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1909.1393 I'm doing this. 1909.9099 1346 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1909.9099 (pause 0.61) 1910.5171 1347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1910.5171 I'm too old for thi- yeah I'm like, 1911.7611 1348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1911.7611 (pause 0.70) 1912.4660 1349 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1912.4660 fourteen and she's- 1913.6420 1350 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1913.6420 (pause 0.16) 1913.7986 1351 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1913.7986 no I'm not do- Mom, no. 1915.5280 1352 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1915.5280 (pause 0.36) 1915.8836 1353 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1915.8836 1916.2276 1354 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1916.2276 (pause 0.45) 1916.6732 1355 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1916.6732 Like I'll still go to whatever but 1918.0698 1356 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1918.0698 (pause 0.52) 1918.5901 1357 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1918.5901 this part of- 1919.2224 1358 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1919.2224 (pause 0.06) 1919.2864 1359 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1919.2864 this part of the 1919.8867 1360 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1919.8867 (pause 0.18) 1920.0708 1361 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1920.0708 chapter is- 1920.7191 1362 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1920.7191 (pause 0.12) 1920.8431 1363 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1920.8431 is closed. 1921.3954 1364 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1921.3954 (pause 0.56) 1921.9556 1365 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1921.9556 Um, 1922.6892 1366 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1922.6892 (pause 0.08) 1922.7652 1367 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1922.7652 so it was like that. 1923.7092 1368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1923.7092 (pause 0.30) 1924.0098 1369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1924.0098 Yeah. 1924.3525 1370 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1924.3525 (pause 1.09) 1925.4385 1371 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1925.4385 And like so, 1926.0588 1372 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1926.0588 (pause 0.62) 1926.6830 1373 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1926.6830 /though/ g- so, when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, I still have all these [relationships] like, 1931.8907 1374 DCB_int_01 1930.9022 [Right.] 1931.2595 1375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1932.5270 most of- so there were two black kids who were at my middle school 1937.3691 1376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1937.3691 (pause 0.67) 1938.0387 1377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1938.0387 who also went to People's with me. 1940.0587 1378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1940.0587 (pause 0.23) 1940.2850 1379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1940.2850 It was a guy and a girl. 1941.4135 1380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1941.4135 (pause 0.42) 1941.8377 1381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1941.8377 So I maintained that friendship but most of the other kids I feel like from middle school I didn't really keep in touch with past middle school except for them who were still at my church. 1950.1948 1382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1950.1948 (pause 0.58) 1950.7711 1383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1950.7711 And 1951.9076 1384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1951.9076 (pause 0.72) 1952.6292 1385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1952.6292 those relationships were just really close so a lot of my 1955.6932 1386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1955.6932 (pause 0.97) 1956.6590 1387 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1956.6590 social weekend time throughout high school was hanging out with those people versus 1963.0891 1388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1963.0891 (pause 0.31) 1963.3994 1389 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1963.3994 the people that I had met at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1965.2465 1390 DCB_int_01 1965.4095 Right. 1965.7495 1391 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1966.1339 Outside of like- 1967.7066 1392 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1967.7066 (pause 1.85) 1969.5594 1393 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1969.5594 yeah, kind of outside of like 1971.8217 1394 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1971.8217 (pause 0.32) 1972.1379 1395 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1972.1379 the 1972.6261 1396 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1972.6261 (pause 0.15) 1972.7782 1397 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1972.7782 three 1973.6906 1398 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1973.6906 (pause 0.41) 1974.0988 1399 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1974.0988 maybe n- that's probably a lie, th- outside maybe like the f- 1976.3468 1400 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1976.3468 (pause 0.15) 1976.4971 1401 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1976.4971 the six or seven 1978.2979 1402 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1978.2979 (pause 0.91) 1979.2064 1403 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1979.2064 pretty much black kids 1980.7591 1404 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1980.7591 (pause 0.61) 1981.3714 1405 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1981.3714 um, 1982.0100 1406 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1982.0100 (pause 0.88) 1982.8893 1407 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1982.8893 not the only black kids at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ but there were about six or seven black kids at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ that I would consistently would hang out with like 1989.4856 1408 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1989.4856 (pause 0.49) 1989.9738 1409 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1989.9738 on weekends after school. 1992.1788 1410 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1992.1788 (pause 0.95) 1993.1312 1411 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1993.1312 And also alternatively 1995.7118 1412 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1995.7118 (pause 0.94) 1996.6501 1413 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1996.6501 kids that I had grown up with at church. 1998.6514 1414 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1998.6514 (pause 0.56) 1999.2153 1415 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 1999.2153 [So I] always 2000.4359 1416 DCB_int_01 1999.2433 [Mm.] 1999.4980 1417 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2000.5199 was kind of drawn to that which is w- another reason why I always felt like a little 2004.7111 1418 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2004.7111 (pause 0.96) 2005.6755 1419 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2005.6755 isolated at 2006.5211 1420 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2006.5211 (pause 0.17) 2006.6892 1421 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2006.6892 /RD-SCHOOL-2/, which I'm sure is as much my- it's- 2008.6461 1422 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2008.6461 (pause 0.22) 2008.8662 1423 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2008.8662 it's 2009.1583 1424 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2009.1583 (pause 0.57) 2009.7266 1425 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2009.7266 in large part my fault. 2010.9272 1426 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2010.9272 (pause 1.36) 2012.2850 1427 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2012.2850 I mean I could've made more of an effort but 2014.0061 1428 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2014.0061 (pause 0.52) 2014.5300 1429 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2014.5300 you know. 2014.8954 1430 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2014.8954 (pause 1.26) 2016.1548 1431 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2016.1548 I like what I like. 2017.0335 1432 DCB_int_01 2018.1117 So tell [me about the-] 2018.9853 1433 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2018.4731 [I sound] racist. 2019.7417 1434 DCB_int_01 2021.2304 No you don't. 2022.1901 1435 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2022.3309 [A little bit. I sound a] little racist. 2023.6675 1436 DCB_int_01 2022.3309 [You really don't.] 2023.0752 1437 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2023.9756 And I don't even- I don't even mean like- cause I said I'm- I- 2026.5661 1438 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2026.5661 (pause 0.10) 2026.6621 1439 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2026.6621 there are other people and even in college that kind of shifted a little bit. 2029.6635 1440 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2029.6635 (pause 0.44) 2030.0997 1441 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2030.0997 But 2030.5651 1442 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2030.5651 (pause 0.66) 2031.2254 1443 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2031.2254 I just missed that a lot, that's what I'm used to like, that was my life. I go to a black church, I had gone to like a mixed elementary and middle 2039.0345 1444 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2039.0345 (pause 1.54) 2040.5790 1445 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2040.5790 I ended up at this high school where it was just affluent and white and it was just- it was different, it was even different from like 2047.7145 1446 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2047.7145 (pause 2.05) 2049.7617 1447 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2049.7617 the socio and ec- economic 2051.0823 1448 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2051.0823 (pause 0.52) 2051.5985 1449 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2051.5985 level- 2052.4199 1450 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2052.4199 (pause 0.28) 2052.6950 1451 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2052.6950 class level of 2054.0557 1452 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2054.0557 (pause 0.51) 2054.5611 1453 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2054.5611 white people that I had been exposed to up in that point so it was just a little foreign to me I didn't really- yeah, it took a while for me to kind of like, adjust to that. 2062.4220 1454 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2062.4220 (pause 2.13) 2064.5550 1455 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2064.5550 That's the best way I can explain it. 2065.9316 1456 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2065.9316 (pause 0.34) 2066.2758 1457 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2066.2758 Hm. 2066.5199 1458 DCB_int_01 2067.4495 So- 2068.2775 1459 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2068.2539 Hope I don't come off racist. 2069.6746 1460 DCB_int_01 2070.0027 uh- 2070.2829 1461 DCB_int_01 2070.2829 (pause 4.03) 2074.3139 1462 DCB_int_01 2074.3139 Um, 2074.9622 1463 DCB_int_01 2074.9622 (pause 0.71) 2075.6706 1464 DCB_int_01 2075.6706 so I'm gonna talk about going to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ in a moment but [let me- let's] go back to the swim te- cause I told you I was gonna [come back to it, mm-hm.] 2081.9027 1465 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2078.5331 [Okay.] 2079.0931 1466 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2079.0931 (pause 1.66) 2080.7542 1467 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2080.7542 [Oh yeah.] 2081.9027 1468 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2081.9587 No that I was just terrible at it like- 2084.3440 1469 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2084.3440 (pause 0.51) 2084.8533 1470 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2084.8533 so when I tried out for the team- 2087.2506 1471 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2087.2506 (pause 1.38) 2088.6310 1472 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2088.6310 I've always been like an overweight child and adult. 2092.8171 1473 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2092.8171 (pause 0.33) 2093.1463 1474 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2093.1463 So, 2094.1077 1475 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2094.1077 (pause 1.32) 2095.4234 1476 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2095.4234 I don't really enjoy activities that make me out of breath, I never enjoyed exercise. Dance even was like, obnoxious except for tap, I liked tap I actually did well in that. 2105.1743 1477 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2105.1743 (pause 0.12) 2105.2904 1478 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2105.2904 I got a scholarship that was exciting. 2107.0912 1479 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2107.0912 (pause 0.18) 2107.2673 1480 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2107.2673 2107.3794 1481 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2107.3794 (pause 0.43) 2107.8076 1482 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2107.8076 For one 2108.3558 1483 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2108.3558 (pause 0.11) 2108.4691 1484 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2108.4691 year. 2108.7732 1485 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2108.7732 (pause 0.43) 2109.2054 1486 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2109.2054 Um, 2109.8857 1487 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2109.8857 (pause 0.83) 2110.7181 1488 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2110.7181 Swimming was not like that, 2111.9439 1489 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2111.9439 (pause 0.19) 2112.1388 1490 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2112.1388 swimming was awful. 2113.1673 1491 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2113.1673 (pause 0.28) 2113.4434 1492 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2113.4434 So swimming was- 2114.9407 1493 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2114.9407 (pause 1.11) 2116.0458 1494 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2116.0458 another one of my friends, I'm not really friends with her anymore but 2119.2433 1495 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2119.2433 (pause 0.23) 2119.4754 1496 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2119.4754 um, another one of my friends who I had grown up with, 2121.9451 1497 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2121.9451 (pause 0.59) 2122.5340 1498 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2122.5340 she was on the swim team, it was an all black team, PG County. 2126.6560 1499 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2126.6560 (pause 0.57) 2127.2294 1500 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2127.2294 And I'm at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ at this point and 2130.1948 1501 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2130.1948 (pause 0.32) 2130.5150 1502 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2130.5150 there's no more dance, I'm looking for something and she went from like, no lie- 2135.4345 1503 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2135.4345 (pause 0.24) 2135.6706 1504 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2135.6706 Well how old were we? We were like fourteen, so 2137.5434 1505 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2137.5434 (pause 0.20) 2137.7475 1506 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2137.7475 she's tall. 2138.2798 1507 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2138.2798 (pause 0.43) 2138.7052 1508 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2138.7052 She went from over two hundred pounds to like 2142.0267 1509 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2142.0267 (pause 0.89) 2142.9151 1510 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2142.9151 one fifty, like she had 2144.5359 1511 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2144.5359 (pause 0.36) 2144.8933 1512 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2144.8933 went cr- she 2145.8017 1513 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2145.8017 (pause 0.46) 2146.2659 1514 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2146.2659 metamorphosized 2147.5105 1515 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2147.5105 (pause 0.45) 2147.9587 1516 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2147.9587 and I'm looking like, 2148.8911 1517 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2148.8911 (pause 0.53) 2149.4194 1518 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2149.4194 that's what I'm gonna do, so, and it's a black activity, so I did that. 2153.8234 1519 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2153.8234 (pause 0.45) 2154.2749 1520 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2154.2749 And um, 2155.6995 1521 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2155.6995 (pause 0.23) 2155.9328 1522 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2155.9328 2156.0289 1523 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2156.0289 (pause 1.22) 2157.2455 1524 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2157.2455 I did lose weight but not like her. 2159.1355 1525 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2159.1355 (pause 0.60) 2159.7306 1526 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2159.7306 And 2160.8671 1527 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2160.8671 (pause 0.66) 2161.5274 1528 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2161.5274 I remember when I tried out 2162.9238 1529 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2162.9238 (pause 0.55) 2163.4696 1530 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2163.4696 or they went- they wanted- not try out, they assessed me to see where I was. 2167.5970 1531 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2167.5970 (pause 0.42) 2168.0197 1532 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2168.0197 And I got out of the pool after doing like 2170.1099 1533 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2170.1099 (pause 0.42) 2170.5260 1534 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2170.5260 four laps or something like I almost vomited. 2173.3112 1535 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2173.3112 (pause 0.36) 2173.6755 1536 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2173.6755 I didn't even know that s- I didn't- I had swam my whole life like, for fun, recreationally, but I didn't even know that swimming could make you out of breath until 2180.5359 1537 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2180.5359 (pause 0.29) 2180.8293 1538 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2180.8293 that one- for that first time. 2182.9892 1539 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2182.9892 (pause 0.45) 2183.4385 1540 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2183.4385 And I was so slow that for 2186.8000 1541 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2186.8000 (pause 0.52) 2187.3215 1542 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2187.3215 a very long time 2188.8542 1543 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2188.8542 (pause 0.12) 2188.9783 1544 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2188.9783 on that team I was swimming with the little kids in practice. 2193.1691 1545 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2193.1691 (pause 1.65) 2194.8142 1546 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2194.8142 until they just said, /RD-NAME-3/ that's enough. 2197.1913 1547 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2197.1913 (pause 0.54) 2197.7315 1548 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2197.7315 And I was like, well I don't know what you want me to do. 2199.0534 1549 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2199.0534 (pause 0.70) 2199.7577 1550 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2199.7577 And then they gave me fins 2201.9067 1551 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2201.9067 (pause 0.13) 2202.0347 1552 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2202.0347 which, for those who don't know, propels you. 2204.8001 1553 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2204.8001 (pause 0.43) 2205.2334 1554 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2205.2334 And everyone else would you know, do practice without fins and 2208.9151 1555 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2208.9151 (pause 0.28) 2209.1953 1556 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2209.1953 when I was with my age group and I would practice with fins so that I could keep up. 2213.8865 1557 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2213.8865 (pause 0.57) 2214.4549 1558 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2214.4549 2214.5230 1559 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2214.5230 (pause 0.63) 2215.1553 1560 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2215.1553 And then, there would- we'd also like 2217.4495 1561 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2217.4495 (pause 0.90) 2218.3540 1562 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2218.3540 2218.4460 1563 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2218.4460 (pause 0.29) 2218.7381 1564 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2218.7381 always kind of feel bad for people at a swim meet 2221.6755 1565 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2221.6755 (pause 0.44) 2222.1197 1566 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2222.1197 where they were so slow that like, everyone else would be done and they'd get like the pity clap. 2227.4450 1567 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2227.4450 (pause 1.32) 2228.7652 1568 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2228.7652 See I just feel like the whole set up was wrong like maybe I just shouldn't have done it because 2233.0491 1569 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2233.0491 (pause 1.29) 2234.3438 1570 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2234.3438 the fact that I had to swim with these children 2237.1558 1571 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2237.1558 (pause 0.39) 2237.5465 1572 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2237.5465 and then they put me in fins to keep up with my age group. 2240.4399 1573 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2240.4399 (pause 0.50) 2240.9413 1574 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2240.9413 So then they put me in these competitions where you know I'm clearly not gonna- 2244.5430 1575 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2244.5430 (pause 1.95) 2246.4919 1576 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2246.4919 So I remember I went to this one meet like went all the way to Atlanta 2250.4109 1577 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2250.4109 (pause 0.72) 2251.1312 1578 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2251.1312 and one of these chicks that I was in the m- 2253.4015 1579 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2253.4015 (pause 0.15) 2253.5496 1580 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2253.5496 in the 2254.3179 1581 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2254.3179 (pause 0.10) 2254.4140 1582 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2254.4140 heat with 2255.3864 1583 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2255.3864 (pause 0.32) 2255.7106 1584 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2255.7106 her brother- these were black people too, 2257.4274 1585 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2257.4274 (pause 0.23) 2257.6595 1586 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2257.6595 her brother was 2259.1894 1587 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2259.1894 (pause 0.35) 2259.5376 1588 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2259.5376 in the Olympics, I had no business. 2262.8231 1589 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2262.8231 (pause 1.23) 2264.0517 1590 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2264.0517 And so like, 2265.7417 1591 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2265.7417 (pause 0.34) 2266.0818 1592 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2266.0818 the team had like split up cause there was some kind of coup, I don't even remember all this drama but there was some kind of drama. 2271.9298 1593 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2271.9298 (pause 0.43) 2272.3620 1594 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2272.3620 And the team had split in half and I remember 2274.2628 1595 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2274.2628 (pause 0.38) 2274.6430 1596 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2274.6430 the one coach 2275.7715 1597 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2275.7715 (pause 0.28) 2276.0529 1598 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2276.0529 who used to be with the team that I had stayed with, he wasn't even 2279.4105 1599 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2279.4105 (pause 0.09) 2279.4985 1600 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2279.4985 part of my team anymore, I didn't have any beef with him, 2281.2313 1601 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2281.2313 (pause 0.28) 2281.5114 1602 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2281.5114 like he was on the sideline like encouraging me during this 2285.0943 1603 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2285.0943 (pause 0.62) 2285.7106 1604 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2285.7106 heat that I- that I- this competition cause it was so bad and he felt so bad for me. I mean he mighta done it anyway but 2291.0758 1605 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2291.0758 (pause 0.26) 2291.3384 1606 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2291.3384 he was trying to get me just up and down, cause I was like about to quit while I was swimming and 2295.7771 1607 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2295.7771 (pause 0.36) 2296.1339 1608 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2296.1339 I remember like- so you go up and back and up and back. 2299.0657 1609 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2299.0657 (pause 0.62) 2299.6875 1610 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2299.6875 Like my last up and back 2301.6857 1611 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2301.6857 (pause 0.43) 2302.1179 1612 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2302.1179 like I still had one more lap to go up and back and people were already finished and standing 2307.7337 1613 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2307.7337 (pause 0.70) 2308.4380 1614 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2308.4380 in the water, waiting for me to go up 2312.1517 1615 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2312.1517 (pause 0.56) 2312.7092 1616 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2312.7092 and back. 2313.5839 1617 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2313.5839 (pause 1.12) 2314.7021 1618 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2314.7021 Humiliated. 2315.5968 1619 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2315.5968 (pause 0.30) 2315.8947 1620 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2315.8947 Jumped out of the water, all kinds of pity clap, I just jumped out of the water, like ran to the bathroom, my mom's like, oh you're f- 2321.9223 1621 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2321.9223 (pause 0.34) 2322.2628 1622 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2322.2628 Don't do this. Like I'm always been a realistic, don't- don't do this. It was terrible. 2326.9582 1623 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2326.9582 (pause 1.36) 2328.3229 1624 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2328.3229 It was terr- what are you talking about? 2330.2117 1625 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2330.2117 (pause 0.81) 2331.0254 1626 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2331.0254 I was so pissed. I feel like 2332.5340 1627 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2332.5340 (pause 0.38) 2332.9102 1628 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2332.9102 I was also pissed because 2333.9987 1629 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2333.9987 (pause 0.54) 2334.5350 1630 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2334.5350 you know I had had enough experiences swimming that I was like, 2337.8398 1631 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2337.8398 (pause 1.11) 2338.9542 1632 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2338.9542 I could at least kind of keep up but at that point I knew at that meet that I was way out of my league and I feel like 2345.3424 1633 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2345.3424 (pause 0.35) 2345.6946 1634 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2345.6946 part of y'all's job as 2347.7412 1635 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2347.7412 (pause 0.43) 2348.1717 1636 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2348.1717 adults 2349.1214 1637 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2349.1214 (pause 0.93) 2350.0498 1638 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2350.0498 let alone coaches or whatever is to like 2352.7271 1639 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2352.7271 (pause 0.50) 2353.2233 1640 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2353.2233 recognize when people just don't need to, you know. 2356.3331 1641 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2356.3331 (pause 0.77) 2357.0983 1642 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2357.0983 Cause I would've been fine with that. 2358.3076 1643 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2358.3076 (pause 0.96) 2359.2673 1644 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2359.2673 2359.3193 1645 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2359.3193 (pause 0.06) 2359.3754 1646 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2359.3754 I was not an over-achiever when it came to swimming, that was just supposed to be something social 2363.4985 1647 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2363.4985 (pause 0.74) 2364.2348 1648 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2364.2348 and exercise. 2366.2174 1649 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2366.2174 (pause 0.28) 2366.4931 1650 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2366.4931 Not 2367.2214 1651 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2367.2214 (pause 0.92) 2368.1419 1652 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2368.1419 scar me and humiliate w- 2370.1788 1653 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2370.1788 (pause 0.15) 2370.3309 1654 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2370.3309 humiliate me and have people literally stand there waiting for me to f- it was- it was awful. That was it, that- that was my swimming story. 2376.6750 1655 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2376.6750 (pause 1.51) 2378.1877 1656 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2378.1877 Yeah. 2378.4757 1657 DCB_int_01 2378.4771 I'm sorry that it was embarrassing but it was a great story. 2381.3646 1658 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2381.3184 Yeah. 2381.9571 1659 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2382.0467 It was- 2382.6550 1660 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2382.6550 (pause 0.14) 2382.7911 1661 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2382.7911 it w- it is- it's a great story now, at the time it was 2385.2054 1662 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2385.2054 (pause 0.82) 2386.0218 1663 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2386.0218 awful. 2386.3005 1664 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2386.3005 (pause 0.76) 2387.0583 1665 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2387.0583 And I did get to lose some weight so that was- that was nice. I didn't 2389.7435 1666 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2389.7435 (pause 0.28) 2390.0277 1667 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2390.0277 get as slim as she did. 2391.1534 1668 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2391.1534 (pause 1.04) 2392.1899 1669 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2392.1899 So, that's okay though. 2393.3539 1670 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2393.3539 (pause 0.28) 2393.6386 1671 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2393.6386 Yeah. 2393.8827 1672 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2393.8827 (pause 0.07) 2393.9547 1673 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2393.9547 It served it's purpose. 2395.2793 1674 DCB_int_01 2397.6416 Thank you for that. 2398.2099 1675 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2398.1779 No [problem.] 2399.3045 1676 DCB_int_01 2398.6181 [That was-] no, that was- 2399.9847 1677 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2400.2148 I'm glad I'm h- I can always entertain. 2402.3428 1678 DCB_int_01 2404.7822 So, 2405.1728 1679 DCB_int_01 2405.1728 (pause 0.98) 2406.1548 1680 DCB_int_01 2406.1548 now let's go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 2408.4104 1681 DCB_int_01 2408.4104 (pause 0.80) 2409.2054 1682 DCB_int_01 2409.2054 Uh, 2409.8988 1683 DCB_int_01 2409.8988 (pause 1.03) 2410.9302 1684 DCB_int_01 2410.9302 now that we've graduated from high school, got over the swimming thing. 2414.2622 1685 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2414.4571 [Mm-hm.] 2414.9424 1686 DCB_int_01 2414.4571 [So I don't] think you went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ with a swimming scholarship 2417.3184 1687 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2417.4406 [Absolutely not.] No no no, that was literally just for- 2421.1581 1688 DCB_int_01 2417.4579 [from the sounds of it.] 2418.5382 1689 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2422.5121 that was the purpose it served like, social, 2425.1295 1690 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2425.1295 (pause 1.35) 2426.4815 1691 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2426.4815 black 2427.5526 1692 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2427.5526 (pause 0.32) 2427.8770 1693 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2427.8770 exercise. 2429.2853 1694 DCB_int_01 2430.3173 So how do we end up at /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 2431.9752 1695 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2432.1512 2432.2202 1696 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2432.2202 (pause 0.44) 2432.6586 1697 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2432.6586 Because I'd wanted to go there since I knew what New York- I'd always wanted to live in New York. 2436.4746 1698 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2436.4746 (pause 0.77) 2437.2493 1699 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2437.2493 And 2438.2503 1700 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2438.2503 (pause 0.15) 2438.4032 1701 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2438.4032 I remember in seventh grade I like went to visit the school, so not like on an official like, 2442.4832 1702 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2442.4832 (pause 0.39) 2442.8765 1703 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2442.8765 that sounds crazy but 2444.1985 1704 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2444.1985 (pause 0.40) 2444.5954 1705 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2444.5954 my godsister, who I'm still close with to this day, she lived in New Jersey 2448.4088 1706 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2448.4088 (pause 0.66) 2449.0733 1707 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2449.0733 and 2450.0062 1708 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2450.0062 (pause 0.09) 2450.0994 1709 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2450.0994 I would visit her and on one of those trips when I was in like, middle school 2453.7007 1710 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2453.7007 (pause 0.89) 2454.5935 1711 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2454.5935 I went to 2455.6668 1712 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2455.6668 (pause 0.18) 2455.8440 1713 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2455.8440 New Jersey and she 2457.1556 1714 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2457.1556 (pause 0.45) 2457.6043 1715 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2457.6043 took me to /RD-SCHOOL-3/'s campus and I was just like, 2460.7453 1716 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2460.7453 (pause 1.04) 2461.7843 1717 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2461.7843 this is it. 2462.7300 1718 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2462.7300 (pause 0.56) 2463.2937 1719 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2463.2937 Um, 2463.9391 1720 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2463.9391 (pause 0.29) 2464.2256 1721 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2464.2256 but I always knew I wanted to move to New York, I just /didn't/- 2466.6102 1722 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2466.6102 (pause 0.25) 2466.8558 1723 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2466.8558 like growing up- 2467.9051 1724 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2467.9051 (pause 2.54) 2470.4500 1725 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2470.4500 I didn't travel a whole lot 2472.1655 1726 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2472.1655 (pause 0.30) 2472.4692 1727 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2472.4692 like growing up but I 2473.6600 1728 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2473.6600 (pause 0.40) 2474.0614 1729 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2474.0614 traveled enough like 2476.0908 1730 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2476.0908 (pause 0.60) 2476.6951 1731 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2476.6951 parents kept me 2477.3854 1732 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2477.3854 (pause 0.46) 2477.8410 1733 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2477.8410 pretty exposed like not much internat- not- 2479.8095 1734 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2479.8095 (pause 0.34) 2480.1477 1735 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2480.1477 huh. 2480.5516 1736 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2480.5516 (pause 0.38) 2480.9278 1737 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2480.9278 I guess Aruba was the only international traveling I had done 2483.2680 1738 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2483.2680 (pause 0.11) 2483.3819 1739 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2483.3819 to that point but enough around the country to kn- 2486.5264 1740 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2486.5264 (pause 0.46) 2486.9830 1741 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2486.9830 know that I really liked New York, I felt like there was nothing else like it, 2490.2138 1742 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2490.2138 (pause 0.14) 2490.3553 1743 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2490.3553 and I had wanted do that since I was- I remember my first trip to New York with my parents 2494.5604 1744 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2494.5604 (pause 0.30) 2494.8607 1745 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2494.8607 in like f- 2495.3819 1746 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2495.3819 (pause 0.19) 2495.5683 1747 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2495.5683 second grade maybe at like Christmas time and I was just like, this is it. 2498.7404 1748 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2498.7404 (pause 0.93) 2499.6734 1749 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2499.6734 And so in seventh grade 2501.5925 1750 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2501.5925 (pause 0.95) 2502.5417 1751 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2502.5417 I knew for sure like, okay /RD-SCHOOL-3/ is it. 2504.5704 1752 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2504.5704 (pause 0.83) 2505.3972 1753 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2505.3972 And I went to other schools in that area 2508.3795 1754 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2508.3795 (pause 0.10) 2508.4761 1755 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2508.4761 and always liked NYU, I didn't like Columbia, not that I would've gotten in. 2511.8653 1756 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2511.8653 (pause 0.67) 2512.5363 1757 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2512.5363 I didn't like Barnard, not that I would've gotten in. 2514.5210 1758 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2514.5210 (pause 0.87) 2515.3943 1759 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2515.3943 And I really liked /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 2517.4110 1760 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2517.4110 (pause 0.11) 2517.5249 1761 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2517.5249 Fordham was cool, 2518.3361 1762 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2518.3361 (pause 0.15) 2518.4845 1763 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2518.4845 but I really liked /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 2519.5994 1764 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2519.5994 (pause 0.27) 2519.8652 1765 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2519.8652 So, that's how I ended up there. 2521.3080 1766 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2521.3080 (pause 0.91) 2522.2192 1767 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2522.2192 Um, 2522.7552 1768 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2522.7552 (pause 0.92) 2523.6734 1769 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2523.6734 I didn't get into my first choice program though. 2525.8827 1770 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2525.8827 (pause 0.39) 2526.2725 1771 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2526.2725 But that's okay, I eventually got there. 2528.0777 1772 DCB_int_01 2528.6724 What was your first choice? 2529.5940 1773 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2530.2153 2530.3085 1774 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2530.3085 (pause 0.26) 2530.5673 1775 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2530.5673 Well, 2530.9874 1776 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2530.9874 (pause 1.10) 2532.0895 1777 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2532.0895 I 2532.3642 1778 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2532.3642 (pause 0.19) 2532.5521 1779 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2532.5521 applied for the communications program. 2535.2105 1780 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2535.2105 (pause 2.06) 2537.2715 1781 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2537.2715 Oh I forgot in terms of my education, hm, 2539.4503 1782 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2539.4503 (pause 0.37) 2539.8154 1783 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2539.8154 I- I also did 2541.0176 1784 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2541.0176 (pause 0.23) 2541.2523 1785 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2541.2523 a summer between 2542.7986 1786 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2542.7986 (pause 1.75) 2544.5451 1787 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2544.5451 2544.6073 1788 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2544.6073 (pause 0.90) 2545.5047 1789 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2545.5047 eleve- 2546.1709 1790 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2546.1709 (pause 0.18) 2546.3514 1791 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2546.3514 yeah. 2546.6896 1792 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2546.6896 (pause 0.23) 2546.9244 1793 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2546.9244 So my summer between eleventh and twelfth grade I went to Syracuse. 2550.0861 1794 DCB_int_01 2550.1240 Mm. 2550.3814 1795 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2550.4589 I knew in high school that I wanted to major in communications so 2554.0291 1796 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2554.0291 (pause 0.76) 2554.7848 1797 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2554.7848 they had a communications high school- communications program where you could earn college credit so I did that for that summer going into my twelfth grade and I wanted it to- 2562.3355 1798 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2562.3355 (pause 0.25) 2562.5866 1799 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2562.5866 I wanted something to put on my like, application to college. 2565.9219 1800 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2565.9219 (pause 0.53) 2566.4500 1801 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2566.4500 So I did that 2567.3509 1802 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2567.3509 (pause 0.14) 2567.4924 1803 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2567.4924 and- 2568.4485 1804 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2568.4485 (pause 0.35) 2568.8006 1805 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2568.8006 so I knew I either wanted to go to Syracuse or NYU, I really wanted to go to NYU, 2573.3185 1806 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2573.3185 (pause 0.82) 2574.1344 1807 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2574.1344 that w- I- I did early decision. 2575.9011 1808 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2575.9011 (pause 1.36) 2577.2626 1809 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2577.2626 And Syracuse was my second choice cause Syracuse had the number one communications school I remember that. 2581.3080 1810 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2581.3080 (pause 0.49) 2581.7946 1811 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2581.7946 Um, 2582.2986 1812 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2582.2986 (pause 0.20) 2582.4953 1813 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2582.4953 so I like applied for that but 2584.2084 1814 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2584.2084 (pause 1.00) 2585.2094 1815 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2585.2094 they put me in general studies program which was dubbed generally stupid people because it was the program that they put you in for two years 2594.4263 1816 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2594.4263 (pause 0.65) 2595.0762 1817 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2595.0762 um, 2595.6362 1818 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2595.6362 (pause 0.35) 2595.9875 1819 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2595.9875 when you've applied for 2597.6753 1820 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2597.6753 (pause 1.31) 2598.9870 1821 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2598.9870 anything else 2600.2227 1822 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2600.2227 (pause 0.10) 2600.3272 1823 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2600.3272 in the university 2601.5871 1824 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2601.5871 (pause 0.29) 2601.8805 1825 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2601.8805 but they think you need a little 2603.2845 1826 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2603.2845 (pause 0.24) 2603.5200 1827 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2603.5200 extra something. 2604.6452 1828 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2604.6452 (pause 0.48) 2605.1285 1829 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2605.1285 Which I always thought was 2607.0269 1830 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2607.0269 (pause 0.19) 2607.2212 1831 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2607.2212 stupid because 2608.9919 1832 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2608.9919 (pause 0.38) 2609.3750 1833 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2609.3750 my friends who got into like college of arts and sciences, what they applied for, did not have as much homework as I did so they always kind of laughed at me about how like 2617.5634 1834 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2617.5634 (pause 0.77) 2618.3376 1835 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2618.3376 I was in this kind of 2619.5322 1836 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2619.5322 (pause 0.17) 2619.7010 1837 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2619.7010 almost secondary 2621.2023 1838 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2621.2023 (pause 0.61) 2621.8134 1839 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2621.8134 situation 2622.8241 1840 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2622.8241 (pause 0.48) 2623.3080 1841 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2623.3080 even though I had a lot more work. 2625.3731 1842 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2625.3731 (pause 0.34) 2625.7113 1843 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2625.7113 And it didn't matter because you did 2627.5166 1844 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2627.5166 (pause 1.15) 2628.6660 1845 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2628.6660 two years 2630.0673 1846 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2630.0673 (pause 0.11) 2630.1823 1847 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2630.1823 um, 2630.7596 1848 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2630.7596 (pause 0.80) 2631.5595 1849 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2631.5595 2631.6527 1850 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2631.6527 (pause 0.56) 2632.2118 1851 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2632.2118 in uh- 2633.0195 1852 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2633.0195 (pause 1.56) 2634.5797 1853 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2634.5797 like taking 2635.3250 1854 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2635.3250 (pause 0.20) 2635.5220 1855 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2635.5220 the basic like 2636.7266 1856 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2636.7266 (pause 0.07) 2636.8001 1857 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2636.8001 col- uh, 2637.7389 1858 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2637.7389 (pause 0.15) 2637.8874 1859 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2637.8874 what do you call that? 2638.5190 1860 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2638.5190 (pause 1.98) 2640.5037 1861 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2640.5037 Like arts and sciences courses that 2642.7508 1862 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2642.7508 (pause 0.14) 2642.8864 1863 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2642.8864 you would take 2644.1946 1864 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2644.1946 (pause 0.13) 2644.3292 1865 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2644.3292 in other programs and then you 2646.3563 1866 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2646.3563 (pause 0.47) 2646.8247 1867 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2646.8247 have to reapply for your major so I reapplied for communications and did that. 2650.2145 1868 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2650.2145 (pause 1.19) 2651.4026 1869 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2651.4026 Um, 2651.7582 1870 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2651.7582 (pause 0.76) 2652.5210 1871 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2652.5210 so that's it. 2653.0767 1872 DCB_int_01 2653.1872 Did you graduate 2653.8645 1873 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2654.1339 [Mm-hm.] 2654.4101 1874 DCB_int_01 2654.2064 [as a] communications major? 2655.2799 1875 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2655.3040 Mm-hm. 2655.5698 1876 DCB_int_01 2655.8080 Oh okay. 2656.3493 1877 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2656.4776 Yeah. 2656.7883 1878 DCB_int_01 2657.2232 Um, 2657.9005 1879 DCB_int_01 2657.9005 (pause 0.39) 2658.2863 1880 DCB_int_01 2658.2863 were you involved in anything in college like 2660.3272 1881 DCB_int_01 2660.3272 (pause 0.13) 2660.4618 1882 DCB_int_01 2660.4618 majorly? 2661.1246 1883 DCB_int_01 2661.1246 (pause 0.50) 2661.6250 1884 DCB_int_01 2661.6250 Besides your academics. 2662.6184 1885 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2663.1990 Yeah. 2663.7375 1886 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2663.7375 (pause 0.08) 2663.8168 1887 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2663.8168 Well I did 2664.6383 1888 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2664.6383 (pause 0.22) 2664.8593 1889 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2664.8593 sort of. N- 2665.5737 1890 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2665.5737 (pause 0.08) 2665.6497 1891 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2665.6497 uh- uh not majorly, I'd- I was part of the gospel choir, 2668.7998 1892 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2668.7998 (pause 0.97) 2669.7720 1893 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2669.7720 I really missed singing. 2671.3390 1894 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2671.3390 (pause 0.93) 2672.2651 1895 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2672.2651 2672.3169 1896 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2672.3169 (pause 0.09) 2672.4032 1897 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2672.4032 I'd done singing in the 2674.0485 1898 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2674.0485 (pause 0.68) 2674.7261 1899 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2674.7261 high school choir- well I guess that wasn't choir, what do you call that? Maybe chorus? I feel like choir has somewhat of a religious thing, maybe not. 2680.8159 1900 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2680.8159 (pause 0.33) 2681.1507 1901 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2681.1507 I don't- I'm not really sure but whatever the singing thing was in high school I did that, I wanted to keep doing it so I did it 2686.2774 1902 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2686.2774 (pause 0.91) 2687.1852 1903 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2687.1852 for the gospel choir 2688.4140 1904 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2688.4140 (pause 0.88) 2689.2907 1905 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2689.2907 um, at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 2690.6241 1906 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2690.6241 (pause 0.51) 2691.1349 1907 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2691.1349 And I feel like there was some kind of diversity 2693.6721 1908 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2693.6721 (pause 0.59) 2694.2621 1909 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2694.2621 similar to like 2695.7713 1910 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2695.7713 (pause 0.56) 2696.3272 1911 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2696.3272 black student something, that I went to meetings to 2699.3440 1912 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2699.3440 (pause 0.13) 2699.4751 1913 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2699.4751 very occasionally. 2700.6314 1914 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2700.6314 (pause 0.85) 2701.4771 1915 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2701.4771 I was not very involved. 2702.7473 1916 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2702.7473 (pause 0.64) 2703.3834 1917 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2703.3834 Um, 2703.9701 1918 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2703.9701 (pause 1.15) 2705.1231 1919 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2705.1231 2705.1921 1920 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2705.1921 (pause 0.08) 2705.2749 1921 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2705.2749 and I did some internships 2707.3229 1922 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2707.3229 (pause 1.18) 2708.5033 1923 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2708.5033 and I flirted with the idea of going to film school when I was there. 2713.1959 1924 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2713.1959 (pause 0.18) 2713.3735 1925 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2713.3735 When I had to redeclare my major again- 2715.1418 1926 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2715.1418 (pause 0.68) 2715.8252 1927 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2715.8252 not redeclare but when I had to apply for my major after 2718.8247 1928 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2718.8247 (pause 0.17) 2718.9904 1929 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2718.9904 general studies I 2719.8119 1930 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2719.8119 (pause 0.55) 2720.3652 1931 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2720.3652 kind of flip flopped between do I wanna 2722.1566 1932 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2722.1566 (pause 0.30) 2722.4569 1933 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2722.4569 do communications, stick with that or do I wanna go to film school cause they have a really good film school. 2726.0328 1934 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2726.0328 (pause 0.95) 2726.9830 1935 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2726.9830 But I was a little too intimidated so I went- I stayed with communications. 2730.5337 1936 DCB_int_01 2731.1043 And so then how did you get to law school? Did you go to law school right after? 2734.4949 1937 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2734.8228 No, law school was a disaster. So I went to- 2738.0397 1938 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2738.0397 (pause 0.13) 2738.1684 1939 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2738.1684 I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 2739.8287 1940 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2739.8287 (pause 0.59) 2740.4224 1941 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2740.4224 and moved back home 2741.5235 1942 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2741.5235 (pause 0.42) 2741.9411 1943 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2741.9411 and 2743.1998 1944 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2743.1998 (pause 0.68) 2743.8751 1945 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2743.8751 worked for- 2745.1867 1946 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2745.1867 (pause 1.05) 2746.2325 1947 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2746.2325 2746.3154 1948 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2746.3154 (pause 0.60) 2746.9160 1949 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2746.9160 so I graduated in two thousand- I worked at Howard for a second. 2749.6320 1950 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2749.6320 (pause 1.72) 2751.3524 1951 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2751.3524 And then- 2752.5432 1952 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2752.5432 (pause 0.65) 2753.1921 1953 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2753.1921 maybe like six months. 2754.1588 1954 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2754.1588 (pause 1.98) 2756.1425 1955 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2756.1425 Is that right? (whispered) 2756.5574 1956 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2756.5574 (pause 0.37) 2756.9313 1957 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2756.9313 And then from there I 2758.9661 1958 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2758.9661 (pause 0.38) 2759.3474 1959 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2759.3474 star- I did 2760.0247 1960 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2760.0247 (pause 0.18) 2760.2034 1961 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2760.2034 like 2760.4416 1962 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2760.4416 (pause 0.22) 2760.6660 1963 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2760.6660 temp work, one of the temp 2762.0949 1964 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2762.0949 (pause 0.11) 2762.2054 1965 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2762.2054 to- to hire jobs was at American Institute of Architects, 2765.0187 1966 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2765.0187 (pause 0.53) 2765.5476 1967 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2765.5476 so I worked there as an admin assistant. That was kind of just by 2768.9803 1968 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2768.9803 (pause 0.15) 2769.1315 1969 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2769.1315 chance. 2770.1566 1970 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2770.1566 (pause 0.86) 2771.0195 1971 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2771.0195 And 2772.2483 1972 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2772.2483 (pause 1.16) 2773.4046 1973 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2773.4046 it's not- 2773.7766 1974 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2773.7766 (pause 0.79) 2774.5688 1975 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2774.5688 not her fault, I was grown up I made my own decisions but you know, 2777.7685 1976 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2777.7685 (pause 0.62) 2778.3864 1977 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2778.3864 you need to go get a graduate degree, you need to get a graduate degree before you get married and have a family which I still don't have, so whatever. The point is 2785.4046 1978 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2785.4046 (pause 0.70) 2786.1063 1979 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2786.1063 I was told this is what I was supposed to do. 2788.3680 1980 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2788.3680 (pause 1.55) 2789.9135 1981 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2789.9135 It was 2790.2000 1982 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2790.2000 (pause 0.17) 2790.3691 1983 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2790.3691 beat over my head. So, you don't wanna be like me you know, I was 2794.8745 1984 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2794.8745 (pause 0.87) 2795.7409 1985 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2795.7409 trying to finish, I started and then I stopped and then 2798.2158 1986 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2798.2158 (pause 0.37) 2798.5861 1987 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2798.5861 you know, I had you and yeah I was 2800.9712 1988 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2800.9712 (pause 0.58) 2801.5476 1989 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2801.5476 trying to finish that and with you, you don't wanna do th- ugh. 2804.4072 1990 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2804.4072 (pause 0.57) 2804.9761 1991 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2804.9761 And then my boss, 2806.2935 1992 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2806.2935 (pause 0.59) 2806.8814 1993 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2806.8814 she said the same thing 2808.2759 1994 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2808.2759 (pause 0.54) 2808.8144 1995 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2808.8144 So I was like, fine. 2809.5930 1996 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2809.5930 (pause 0.76) 2810.3548 1997 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2810.3548 It was a little bitter because- this sounds terrible. (whispered) 2813.1024 1998 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2813.1024 (pause 0.17) 2813.2680 1999 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2813.2680 I'll- I'll be quiet. Karma's awful so let me just be quiet. 2816.0880 2000 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2816.0880 (pause 0.50) 2816.5861 2001 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2816.5861 Um, 2817.3558 2002 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2817.3558 (pause 0.61) 2817.9668 2003 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2817.9668 2818.0496 2004 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2818.0496 (pause 1.53) 2819.5787 2005 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2819.5787 uh, well I was gonna say that they had some- they had- they did some downsizing, 2823.6527 2006 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2823.6527 (pause 0.70) 2824.3499 2007 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2824.3499 but you'd get some kind of severance, and it was right when I was about to go to law school and I would never wish to be like, 2830.2878 2008 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2830.2878 (pause 0.13) 2830.4155 2009 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2830.4155 laid off, cause unemployment sucks, been there, but I'm just saying that like you know would've been really nice. But they knew I was going to law school so they wouldn't give it to me. The point is 2837.8203 2010 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2837.8203 (pause 0.94) 2838.7557 2011 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2838.7557 I went from- /it went to-/ 2840.1157 2012 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2840.1157 (pause 0.25) 2840.3686 2013 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2840.3686 from AIA, American Institute of Architects, I'm an assistant, 2843.1300 2014 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2843.1300 (pause 0.79) 2843.9169 2015 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2843.9169 2843.9894 2016 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2843.9894 (pause 0.61) 2844.6038 2017 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2844.6038 from two thousand six maybe to two thousand nine, when I went to law school which was- 2851.1147 2018 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2851.1147 (pause 0.77) 2851.8889 2019 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2851.8889 I don't know how I feel about that decision, so. 2854.2910 2020 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2854.2910 (pause 1.01) 2855.2991 2021 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2855.2991 2855.3647 2022 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2855.3647 (pause 0.91) 2856.2725 2023 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2856.2725 Mm I didn't 2858.9924 2024 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2858.9924 (pause 0.10) 2859.0969 2025 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2859.0969 ever think that I could do law school 2861.5200 2026 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2861.5200 (pause 0.10) 2861.6201 2027 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2861.6201 but 2862.0205 2028 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2862.0205 (pause 0.10) 2862.1240 2029 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2862.1240 I- after graduating and moving back home I- all these 2865.7320 2030 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2865.7320 (pause 0.71) 2866.4431 2031 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2866.4431 kids went to law school. 2867.8307 2032 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2867.8307 (pause 0.61) 2868.4381 2033 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2868.4381 And then I talked to some who were at Howard 2871.4625 2034 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2871.4625 (pause 0.97) 2872.4362 2035 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2872.4362 My um- 2873.9273 2036 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2873.9273 (pause 0.07) 2873.9998 2037 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2873.9998 and- and- and they kept telling me like, 2876.3971 2038 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2876.3971 (pause 0.59) 2876.9899 2039 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2876.9899 /RD-NAME-3/ they are s- I- I swear there are some incredibly 2880.2966 2040 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2880.2966 (pause 0.20) 2880.4968 2041 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2880.4968 not bright people who 2881.8085 2042 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2881.8085 (pause 0.26) 2882.0708 2043 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2882.0708 we have gone to law school with, you'll be fine. 2884.2084 2044 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2884.2084 (pause 0.16) 2884.3637 2045 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2884.3637 And I was like, are you sure? And they were like, yeah. 2886.3967 2046 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2886.3967 (pause 0.28) 2886.6729 2047 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2886.6729 And at the time the economy was different cause I was 2888.6368 2048 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2888.6368 (pause 0.33) 2888.9692 2049 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2888.9692 applying like, 2890.1393 2050 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2890.1393 (pause 0.72) 2890.8573 2051 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2890.8573 started taking the test and all that stuff so that had to be two thousand- 2894.6313 2052 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2894.6313 (pause 1.67) 2896.3050 2053 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2896.3050 wait a minute, I f- got my acceptance letters March two thousand nine. 2901.7631 2054 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2901.7631 (pause 0.55) 2902.3085 2055 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2902.3085 So I had been preparing two thousand eight before the economy went to, you know- 2905.5910 2056 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2905.5910 (pause 0.64) 2906.2261 2057 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2906.2261 So, 2906.8408 2058 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2906.8408 (pause 0.74) 2907.5802 2059 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2907.5802 when I was applying, 2908.7606 2060 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2908.7606 (pause 0.46) 2909.2232 2061 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2909.2232 you graduate, 2910.0992 2062 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2910.0992 (pause 0.36) 2910.4589 2063 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2910.4589 get this good job, 2911.8188 2064 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2911.8188 (pause 0.42) 2912.2375 2065 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2912.2375 and life is grand 2913.7175 2066 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2913.7175 (pause 0.09) 2913.8080 2067 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2913.8080 except 2914.6778 2068 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2914.6778 (pause 0.09) 2914.7675 2069 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2914.7675 you know once I got in it, the economy tanked and- 2917.1449 2070 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2917.1449 (pause 1.39) 2918.5343 2071 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2918.5343 So our- 2919.2943 2072 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2919.2943 (pause 0.24) 2919.5353 2073 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2919.5353 2919.5905 2074 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2919.5905 (pause 0.32) 2919.9115 2075 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2919.9115 a lot of our experiences for those who graduated in two thousand twelve when I did, 2923.6995 2076 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2923.6995 (pause 0.58) 2924.2823 2077 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2924.2823 it wasn't as- 2925.5944 2078 DCB_int_01 2925.7804 Mm. 2926.0254 2079 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2926.2705 yeah, wasn't as carefree as other people I had 2928.9317 2080 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2928.9317 (pause 0.21) 2929.1388 2081 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2929.1388 talked to who had graduated several years 2931.0062 2082 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2931.0062 (pause 0.30) 2931.3075 2083 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2931.3075 in front of me. 2932.1195 2084 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2932.1195 (pause 0.42) 2932.5363 2085 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2932.5363 2932.6433 2086 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2932.6433 (pause 0.50) 2933.1438 2087 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2933.1438 But I did enjoy Howard, 2934.7661 2088 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2934.7661 (pause 1.00) 2935.7705 2089 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2935.7705 and 2936.6798 2090 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2936.6798 (pause 0.08) 2936.7621 2091 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2936.7621 [um-] 2937.3903 2092 DCB_int_01 2937.2419 [Think] there were black people there. 2938.4983 2093 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2938.6433 2938.7675 2094 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2938.7675 (pause 0.34) 2939.1093 2095 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2939.1093 There were quite a few. 2940.3986 2096 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2940.3986 (pause 0.60) 2940.9973 2097 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2940.9973 And um, 2942.8972 2098 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2942.8972 (pause 0.53) 2943.4318 2099 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2943.4318 2943.4939 2100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2943.4939 (pause 0.07) 2943.5595 2101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2943.5595 lifelong friends who I will have 2946.9421 2102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2946.9421 (pause 0.53) 2947.4736 2103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2947.4736 forever I believe. 2949.2039 2104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2949.2039 (pause 0.74) 2949.9460 2105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2949.9460 Um, 2950.5220 2106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2950.5220 (pause 0.31) 2950.8331 2107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2950.8331 2950.9850 2108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2950.9850 (pause 0.16) 2951.1403 2109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2951.1403 who I was just hanging out with yesterday, one of which you know. 2954.5110 2110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2954.5110 (pause 0.92) 2955.4283 2111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2955.4283 So yeah I mean that part of it was good, and everyone kept telling me you can do anything with a law degree. 2960.9579 2112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2960.9579 (pause 1.78) 2962.7365 2113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2962.7365 But it- my heart's never been in law, like I never wanted to practice. 2965.8844 2114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2965.8844 (pause 1.05) 2966.9382 2115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2966.9382 And I mean maybe this is partly my fault too, I graduated and 2970.0888 2116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2970.0888 (pause 0.23) 2970.3173 2117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2970.3173 that 2970.5728 2118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2970.5728 (pause 0.31) 2970.8869 2119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2970.8869 exam has not worked out for me and 2973.3903 2120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2973.3903 (pause 0.32) 2973.7079 2121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2973.7079 I don't- I don't really wanna practice so I- then I started feeling like, why do I keep taking it if this isn't what you wanna d- and it was- so it was like a whole bunch of 2979.9978 2122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2979.9978 (pause 0.42) 2980.4224 2123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2980.4224 things tied up into it like- probably should've taken these off. 2983.3839 2124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2983.3839 (pause 0.41) 2983.7912 2125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2983.7912 I- I 2984.3179 2126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2984.3179 (pause 0.12) 2984.4411 2127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2984.4411 I w- 2984.7665 2128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2984.7665 (pause 1.45) 2986.2187 2129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2986.2187 glad I got the terminal degree and 2989.4150 2130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2989.4150 (pause 1.10) 2990.5171 2131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2990.5171 2990.5654 2132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2990.5654 (pause 0.07) 2990.6310 2133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2990.6310 I'm glad that it was Howard 2992.4776 2134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2992.4776 (pause 0.13) 2992.6088 2135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2992.6088 and 2993.7271 2136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2993.7271 (pause 0.07) 2993.7961 2137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2993.7961 it's just my heart was not 2996.0960 2138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2996.0960 (pause 0.18) 2996.2789 2139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2996.2789 in law and I- 2997.6922 2140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2997.6922 (pause 0.28) 2997.9771 2141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2997.9771 it's- 2998.5777 2142 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2998.5777 (pause 0.29) 2998.8642 2143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 2998.8642 still not, so 3001.2113 2144 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3001.2113 (pause 0.60) 3001.8154 2145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3001.8154 that's why I made the face about law school. 3003.9501 2146 DCB_int_01 3004.0047 So [how'd /you end up-/] 3005.0154 2147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3004.1255 [I should've] probably gotten an MBA but you know hindsight's always twenty-twenty as they say, so here I am. 3010.1145 2148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3010.3050 3010.4224 2149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3010.4224 (pause 0.75) 3011.1714 2150 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3011.1714 Hm? 3011.4199 2151 DCB_int_01 3011.4786 How'd you end up in your job? 3012.8351 2152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3013.9776 3014.0742 2153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3014.0742 (pause 0.97) 3015.0486 2154 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3015.0486 Because this is a very typical path that you take 3018.1420 2155 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3018.1420 (pause 0.14) 3018.2794 2156 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3018.2794 if you're looking for a job after law school. Well the- okay so document review is basically the discovery process of- 3024.0891 2157 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3024.0891 (pause 0.33) 3024.4209 2158 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3024.4209 I don't know how familiar 3025.0636 2159 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3025.0636 (pause 0.54) 3025.6048 2160 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3025.6048 you or the other 3026.2468 2161 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3026.2468 (pause 0.23) 3026.4722 2162 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3026.4722 people who'd be listening to this are with document review but 3028.6916 2163 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3028.6916 (pause 0.40) 3029.0955 2164 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3029.0955 basically discovery process, so when two parties are 3031.9048 2165 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3031.9048 (pause 1.14) 3033.0417 2166 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3033.0417 litigating, there are all these documents that have to be reviewed whether it's privileged, confidential, things like that. 3039.5825 2167 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3039.5825 (pause 0.78) 3040.3672 2168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3040.3672 3040.4258 2169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3040.4258 (pause 0.07) 3040.4949 2170 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3040.4949 Basically categorize for discovery so 3043.0836 2171 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3043.0836 (pause 0.18) 3043.2631 2172 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3043.2631 they need people generally 3045.2005 2173 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3045.2005 (pause 0.78) 3045.9771 2174 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3045.9771 lawyers or at least JDs like me to review it. 3049.4150 2175 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3049.4150 (pause 0.17) 3049.5876 2176 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3049.5876 So, 3050.0089 2177 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3050.0089 (pause 0.31) 3050.3238 2178 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3050.3238 that's how I ended up doing that. I actually 3052.9781 2179 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3052.9781 (pause 0.86) 3053.8410 2180 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3053.8410 clerked for a year 3054.9110 2181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3054.9110 (pause 0.72) 3055.6290 2182 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3055.6290 afterwards 3056.6903 2183 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3056.6903 (pause 0.17) 3056.8622 2184 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3056.8622 um, 3057.3702 2185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3057.3702 (pause 0.25) 3057.6216 2186 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3057.6216 3057.7148 2187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3057.7148 (pause 1.51) 3059.2232 2188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3059.2232 and that was an enjoyable exper- I mean you get a really 3062.9616 2189 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3062.9616 (pause 0.50) 3063.4594 2190 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3063.4594 up close look at how the court system works 3066.2897 2191 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3066.2897 (pause 0.17) 3066.4554 2192 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3066.4554 and- so that was good. 3067.7498 2193 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3067.7498 (pause 1.39) 3069.1349 2194 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3069.1349 It did show me again that I really don't wanna practice, so 3071.9515 2195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3071.9515 (pause 0.13) 3072.0792 2196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3072.0792 it eliminated that for good and then after that I worked for 3076.0151 2197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3076.0151 (pause 0.22) 3076.2394 2198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3076.2394 DC government. 3077.3821 2199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3077.3821 (pause 1.01) 3078.3967 2200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3078.3967 And that was fun. 3080.1421 2201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3080.1421 (pause 1.03) 3081.1763 2202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3081.1763 Um, 3082.3395 2203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3082.3395 (pause 0.14) 3082.4776 2204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3082.4776 and then my contract ended. 3084.6576 2205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3084.6576 (pause 0.64) 3085.2942 2206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3085.2942 So, 3086.1328 2207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3086.1328 (pause 0.77) 3086.9002 2208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3086.9002 I 3087.9455 2209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3087.9455 (pause 0.64) 3088.5881 2210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3088.5881 jumped on doc review projects 3090.3657 2211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3090.3657 (pause 0.13) 3090.4934 2212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3090.4934 while I was- 3091.2355 2213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3091.2355 (pause 0.18) 3091.4184 2214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3091.4184 after I studied for the bar that time and I've kind of been bouncing around on projects while I look for 3096.7626 2215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3096.7626 (pause 0.67) 3097.4288 2216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3097.4288 something else that 3098.5678 2217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3098.5678 (pause 0.67) 3099.2419 2218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3099.2419 maybe could allow me to use my law degree but not 3102.4130 2219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3102.4130 (pause 1.00) 3103.4150 2220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3103.4150 a practice. 3104.4884 2221 DCB_int_01 3104.4722 Mm-hm. 3104.8795 2222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3105.0555 Yeah. 3105.3558 2223 DCB_int_01 3105.9253 So let's switch gears totally. 3107.7547 2224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3107.9204 [Okay.] 3108.4589 2225 DCB_int_01 3108.2725 [Um,] 3108.8050 2226 DCB_int_01 3109.5013 [So these questions] are not gonna be chronologi- they're just gonna be kind of random. 3112.7409 2227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3109.5082 [Good.] 3110.1376 2228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3112.7606 Sure. 3113.4096 2229 DCB_int_01 3114.0861 One of the things is 3115.9461 2230 DCB_int_01 3115.9461 (pause 0.50) 3116.4411 2231 DCB_int_01 3116.4411 people come from all over the country to come tour DC and see all the monuments and all of these museums and things. 3123.0305 2232 DCB_int_01 3123.0305 (pause 0.37) 3123.4007 2233 DCB_int_01 3123.4007 Have you been a tourist in your own back yard? 3125.5317 2234 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3127.3977 3127.4736 2235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3127.4736 (pause 0.12) 3127.5910 2236 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3127.5910 Yeah. 3127.9910 2237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3127.9910 (pause 0.70) 3128.6862 2238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3128.6862 Um, 3129.6630 2239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3129.6630 (pause 2.29) 3131.9549 2240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3131.9549 3131.9929 2241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3131.9929 (pause 0.07) 3132.0654 2242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3132.0654 Not as much as I 3132.9455 2243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3132.9455 (pause 0.12) 3133.0698 2244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3133.0698 as I should be, I mean growing up there was always a trip to a museum. 3137.4648 2245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3137.4648 (pause 0.54) 3138.0032 2246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3138.0032 But if you ask me anything about that now I'd be like, Mm-mm-mm. (I don't know intonation) 3140.6230 2247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3140.6230 (pause 0.40) 3141.0245 2248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3141.0245 Um, 3141.8018 2249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3141.8018 (pause 0.86) 3142.6601 2250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3142.6601 if that makes s- 3143.3405 2251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3143.3405 (pause 0.26) 3143.5959 2252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3143.5959 you know like I remember going to see the big dinosaur, so that was Natural History, I remember seeing the- 3148.1911 2253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3148.1911 (pause 0.51) 3148.6985 2254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3148.6985 the diamond which was- 3150.9386 2255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3150.9386 (pause 0.18) 3151.1216 2256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3151.1216 that's Natural too, isn't it? 3152.3228 2257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3152.3228 (pause 0.73) 3153.0555 2258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3153.0555 I feel like I've seen a lot of these Smithsonian museums, I actually worked for the Smithsonian 3157.2217 2259 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3157.2217 (pause 0.66) 3157.8854 2260 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3157.8854 every summer like in high school 3160.0547 2261 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3160.0547 (pause 0.33) 3160.3879 2262 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3160.3879 at their, uh, 3161.5856 2263 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3161.5856 (pause 0.72) 3162.3035 2264 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3162.3035 their big festival for some reason I can't remember it right now, the name of it. 3165.2281 2265 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3165.2281 (pause 0.17) 3165.3938 2266 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3165.3938 But I worked for a festival every summer. 3166.9367 2267 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3166.9367 (pause 1.09) 3168.0239 2268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3168.0239 Not that that really involved touristy things so I would say that I've- I've done a lot of touristy things. 3173.4855 2269 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3173.4855 (pause 0.60) 3174.0861 2270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3174.0861 Uh, 3174.6567 2271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3174.6567 (pause 0.25) 3174.9041 2272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3174.9041 /even/ the last few years like made it a point to go see Martin Luther King and 3178.8607 2273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3178.8607 (pause 0.41) 3179.2715 2274 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3179.2715 a couple weeks ago I went 3181.6462 2275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3181.6462 (pause 0.08) 3181.7256 2276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3181.7256 down to the Lincoln Memorial. 3184.2602 2277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3184.2602 (pause 1.21) 3185.4717 2278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3185.4717 FDR, I've s- I've seen all of them, the World War Two, the Korean. 3190.2187 2279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3190.2187 (pause 0.81) 3191.0333 2280 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3191.0333 So yeah I'd say I've been a t- I'd- I'd say so, I haven't seen everything. 3193.6640 2281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3193.6640 (pause 0.24) 3193.9051 2282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3193.9051 But 3194.1226 2283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3194.1226 (pause 0.29) 3194.4159 2284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3194.4159 I've- I've spent time doing that. 3196.0786 2285 DCB_int_01 3196.8711 Do you have a favorite? 3197.7478 2286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3202.1221 Hm. 3202.4261 2287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3202.4261 (pause 1.80) 3204.2310 2288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3204.2310 I feel like 3205.8790 2289 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3205.8790 (pause 0.21) 3206.0891 2290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3206.0891 I like any one that involves water, and I feel like the FDR one involves water but I- mm. 3211.3425 2291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3211.3425 (pause 0.74) 3212.0787 2292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3212.0787 I know World War Two involves water. 3213.6895 2293 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3213.6895 (pause 1.21) 3214.8987 2294 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3214.8987 3215.0057 2295 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3215.0057 (pause 0.07) 3215.0747 2296 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3215.0747 This is terrible. 3215.7892 2297 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3215.7892 (pause 0.20) 3215.9929 2298 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3215.9929 But that's how I feel, I really like the water ones. 3218.0708 2299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3218.0708 (pause 1.17) 3219.2454 2300 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3219.2454 I would say one of my favorites 3221.2335 2301 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3221.2335 (pause 1.29) 3222.5279 2302 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3222.5279 is also the Korean one cause it's those statues of the men, 3225.9322 2303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3225.9322 (pause 0.15) 3226.0807 2304 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3226.0807 but it 3226.5535 2305 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3226.5535 (pause 0.78) 3227.3371 2306 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3227.3371 at night kind of creeps me out a little bit, it's a little eerie. 3230.3011 2307 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3230.3011 (pause 0.70) 3230.9968 2308 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3230.9968 It's probably not the right reason to like or dislike a memorial but I- I do like that one a lot too. 3236.1191 2309 DCB_int_01 3236.1132 Kind of Thriller-esque. 3237.3800 2310 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3237.4248 Yeah, it's different, I like that. 3239.3371 2311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3239.3371 (pause 0.22) 3239.5614 2312 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3239.5614 3239.6857 2313 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3239.6857 (pause 0.52) 3240.2034 2314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3240.2034 So those are probably my favorites. 3242.7554 2315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3242.7554 (pause 0.61) 3243.3696 2316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3243.3696 I don't remember why I lied FDR that much, but I've been there a couple times I remember I really liked it. 3247.3770 2317 DCB_int_01 3247.6048 It's one of my [favorites.] 3248.7835 2318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3248.0338 [I'm not very good] with history, so. 3250.2058 2319 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3250.8573 It's like aesthetic purposes as to why I would like 3253.8775 2320 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3253.8775 (pause 0.23) 3254.1063 2321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3254.1063 all of these, [yeah.] 3255.3006 2322 DCB_int_01 3254.9451 [Mm-hm.] 3255.3051 2323 DCB_int_01 3255.6630 [Exactly.] 3256.2878 2324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3255.6665 [] 3255.8011 2325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3255.8011 (pause 0.47) 3256.2705 2326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3256.2705 Yeah. 3256.5604 2327 DCB_int_01 3257.0299 Um, 3257.6419 2328 DCB_int_01 3257.6419 (pause 0.51) 3258.1482 2329 DCB_int_01 3258.1482 so- 3258.7242 2330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3258.7108 Oh and Martin Luther King 3259.8464 2331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3260.1364 too. 3260.5817 2332 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3260.5817 (pause 1.01) 3261.5871 2333 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3261.5871 Because- 3262.1044 2334 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3262.1044 (pause 0.06) 3262.1670 2335 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3262.1670 well actually no I- 3262.8331 2336 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3262.8331 (pause 0.22) 3263.0575 2337 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3263.0575 in- in seriousness I do like that one cause it's like 3265.1175 2338 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3265.1175 (pause 0.25) 3265.3666 2339 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3265.3666 huge and in his likeness. 3267.3278 2340 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3267.3278 (pause 0.67) 3267.9978 2341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3267.9978 I can't 3268.5058 2342 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3268.5058 (pause 0.28) 3268.7848 2343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3268.7848 say I- that one's not on the list. 3270.6968 2344 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3270.6968 (pause 0.96) 3271.6600 2345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3271.6600 I just- my first one I j- jumped to is the water, 3274.3016 2346 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3274.3016 (pause 0.09) 3274.3913 2347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3274.3913 so. 3274.6846 2348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3274.6846 (pause 0.19) 3274.8745 2349 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3274.8745 Yeah. 3275.1399 2350 DCB_int_01 3275.8479 Understandable. 3276.4899 2351 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3276.5555 Yeah. 3276.8475 2352 DCB_int_01 3277.3563 Um, 3278.2003 2353 DCB_int_01 3278.2003 (pause 1.77) 3279.9737 2354 DCB_int_01 3279.9737 have you noticed 3281.0299 2355 DCB_int_01 3281.0299 (pause 0.18) 3281.2094 2356 DCB_int_01 3281.2094 the changing in DC? Have you seen the neighborhoods change? 3285.1585 2357 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3285.6216 Yeah. 3286.0669 2358 DCB_int_01 3286.2671 And what are your- 3286.8711 2359 DCB_int_01 3286.8711 (pause 0.57) 3287.4372 2360 DCB_int_01 3287.4372 well some people are like, 3288.2587 2361 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3288.7661 [Don't?] 3289.0897 2362 DCB_int_01 3288.8938 [Don't] feel like it's changed. 3290.1709 2363 DCB_int_01 3290.7932 So, tha- I- it's always I 3292.1372 2364 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3292.3016 3292.3637 2365 DCB_int_01 3292.4086 don't wanna presume that you 3293.5712 2366 DCB_int_01 3293.5712 (pause 0.10) 3293.6719 2367 DCB_int_01 3293.6719 [/do./] 3294.0212 2368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3293.7409 [Do] know? Yeah, no it definitely has changed. I'm probably not- 3296.7828 2369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3297.4145 one, I'm not very observant but 3300.0343 2370 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3300.0343 (pause 0.61) 3300.6418 2371 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3300.6418 I mean 3301.3390 2372 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3301.3390 (pause 0.30) 3301.6359 2373 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3301.6359 I have noticed that change. 3303.2278 2374 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3303.2278 (pause 0.52) 3303.7528 2375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3303.7528 Just like growing-first, kindergarten, first, second- or [f 3304.6985 2376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3304.6985 (pause 0.92) 3305.6201 2377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3305.6201 /just honest/ and if- any of my friends will tell you the same thing. 3308.1554 2378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3308.1554 (pause 0.38) 3308.5368 2379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3308.5368 Um, 3309.2474 2380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3309.2474 (pause 0.13) 3309.3800 2381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3309.3800 my neighbor last week was like, you're not very observant, and I was like, 3312.6591 2382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3312.6591 (pause 0.12) 3312.7833 2383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3312.7833 Mm. Mm-hm I tried to tell you. 3314.0017 2384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3314.0017 (pause 0.48) 3314.4825 2385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3314.4825 Uh, 3315.5388 2386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3315.5388 (pause 0.28) 3315.8149 2387 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3315.8149 yeah so I notice that neighborhoods like where I live now Fort Totten, 3319.6042 2388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3319.6042 (pause 3.04) 3322.6433 2389 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3322.6433 you didn't see 3324.0585 2390 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3324.0585 (pause 0.40) 3324.4623 2391 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3324.4623 white 3324.8583 2392 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3324.8583 (pause 1.02) 3325.8751 2393 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3325.8751 people walking through the neighborhood the way you do now. 3328.9415 2394 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3328.9415 (pause 0.51) 3329.4510 2395 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3329.4510 Especially- well, no. 3330.7488 2396 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3330.7488 (pause 0.10) 3330.8489 2397 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3330.8489 Period. 3331.2076 2398 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3331.2076 (pause 0.27) 3331.4736 2399 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3331.4736 Boom. 3331.7015 2400 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3331.7015 (pause 0.62) 3332.3203 2401 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3332.3203 Um, and you just 3333.2868 2402 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3333.2868 (pause 0.12) 3333.4110 2403 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3333.4110 neighborhoods that have historically f- in my experience been black, 3336.8457 2404 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3336.8457 (pause 0.85) 3337.6946 2405 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3337.6946 you suddenly see 3339.2385 2406 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3339.2385 (pause 0.56) 3339.7976 2407 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3339.7976 white people moving into them, 3341.1162 2408 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3341.1162 (pause 0.72) 3341.8376 2409 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3341.8376 3341.8893 2410 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3341.8893 (pause 0.33) 3342.2172 2411 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3342.2172 um, like from a residential perspective like my neighborhood where I live now. 3346.1704 2412 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3346.1704 (pause 0.84) 3347.0126 2413 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3347.0126 Uh, 3347.8233 2414 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3347.8233 (pause 1.79) 3349.6152 2415 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3349.6152 I know down by Howard, 3351.0085 2416 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3351.0085 (pause 0.45) 3351.4559 2417 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3351.4559 U Street in general, pretty much kind of 3353.7892 2418 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3353.7892 (pause 0.29) 3354.0826 2419 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3354.0826 anywhere, Capitol Hill, 3355.4150 2420 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3355.4150 (pause 0.34) 3355.7532 2421 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3355.7532 like places where you just- 3356.6852 2422 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3356.6852 (pause 1.22) 3357.9081 2423 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3357.9081 growing up when I'm a kid you just didn't see 3360.7039 2424 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3360.7039 (pause 1.44) 3362.1477 2425 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3362.1477 them. 3362.7584 2426 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3362.7584 (pause 0.22) 3362.9761 2427 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3362.9761 You see them kind of like, everywhere. 3365.8099 2428 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3365.8099 (pause 0.09) 3365.8962 2429 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3365.8962 And 3366.4934 2430 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3366.4934 (pause 0.99) 3367.4875 2431 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3367.4875 3367.5323 2432 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3367.5323 (pause 0.08) 3367.6083 2433 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3367.6083 I don't mean that to be racist I just mean that like 3370.4189 2434 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3370.4189 (pause 0.18) 3370.5950 2435 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3370.5950 you just- 3371.3681 2436 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3371.3681 (pause 1.04) 3372.4036 2437 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3372.4036 you see f- 3372.8810 2438 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3372.8810 (pause 0.38) 3373.2596 2439 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3373.2596 it's a different- 3374.2796 2440 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3374.2796 (pause 0.49) 3374.7725 2441 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3374.7725 it's a different group of people. You see neighborhoods changing, you see a lot more restaurants and businesses popping up 3381.3627 2442 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3381.3627 (pause 0.11) 3381.4766 2443 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3381.4766 where 3381.8980 2444 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3381.8980 (pause 0.45) 3382.3499 2445 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3382.3499 they weren't before. 3383.3939 2446 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3383.3939 (pause 0.87) 3384.2656 2447 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3384.2656 Neighborhoods where people- you know, you can walk around 3386.8509 2448 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3386.8509 (pause 0.87) 3387.7217 2449 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3387.7217 not 3387.9944 2450 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3387.9944 (pause 0.31) 3388.3050 2451 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3388.3050 being in fear in the night- in the darkness, um, all those things that come with gentrification so it's really different. 3394.7883 2452 DCB_int_01 3395.3647 Is that [a good-] 3395.9239 2453 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3395.5925 [And it's also] hard not- huh? 3396.8552 2454 DCB_int_01 3397.0905 Mm go ahead. 3397.5519 2455 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3398.0131 No I was gonna say it's also like- it's interesting y- for y- for you to hear people that don't notice that. One, just 3402.0550 2456 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3402.0550 (pause 0.30) 3402.3519 2457 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3402.3519 from someone who's 3402.9524 2458 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3402.9524 (pause 1.12) 3404.0718 2459 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3404.0718 like 3404.2685 2460 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3404.2685 (pause 0.46) 3404.7242 2461 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3404.7242 self-admittedly not observant to also like 3407.9515 2462 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3407.9515 (pause 1.76) 3409.7153 2463 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3409.7153 growing up here, you talk to anyone who grows up here you know that. I mean even 3413.3095 2464 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3413.3095 (pause 1.57) 3414.8765 2465 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3414.8765 the w- 3415.2578 2466 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3415.2578 (pause 0.08) 3415.3356 2467 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3415.3356 w- woman who I would claim is my cousin 3417.6716 2468 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3417.6716 (pause 1.11) 3418.7814 2469 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3418.7814 who's not, uh, I- she lives in Fort Totten too, 3422.3077 2470 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3422.3077 (pause 0.62) 3422.9313 2471 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3422.9313 and I used to live with her. She's now married, she married a white guy. 3425.8962 2472 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3425.8962 (pause 0.54) 3426.4312 2473 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3426.4312 They have a baby. 3427.1821 2474 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3427.1821 (pause 0.54) 3427.7256 2475 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3427.7256 And I mean she even talks about it, she's like, yeah the neighborhood's filling with a lot of- 3431.6788 2476 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3431.6788 (pause 0.10) 3431.7823 2477 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3431.7823 the- DC is filling with a lot of families like mine, like a lot of blended families and white families, and 3436.9401 2478 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3436.9401 (pause 0.60) 3437.5373 2479 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3437.5373 she grew up on Columbia and she's like, I 3439.2631 2480 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3439.2631 (pause 0.13) 3439.3943 2481 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3439.3943 don't remember DC being like- it's just weird, people who grew up in this area 3442.1331 2482 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3442.1331 (pause 0.77) 3442.8987 2483 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3442.8987 they talk about it so it's 3444.4520 2484 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3444.4520 (pause 0.18) 3444.6280 2485 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3444.6280 interesting that people wouldn't notice at least like someone would 3447.7148 2486 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3447.7148 (pause 0.93) 3448.6467 2487 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3448.6467 point it out to you. 3449.6995 2488 DCB_int_01 3450.1413 I think when- when they said that to me it was more so 3453.6216 2489 DCB_int_01 3453.6216 (pause 0.52) 3454.1462 2490 DCB_int_01 3454.1462 I guess maybe how they felt about it, not that they didn't notice [but] 3457.0837 2491 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3456.9110 [Oh.] 3457.6773 2492 DCB_int_01 3457.2873 [they didn't] feel- like it wasn't something that affected them. 3460.7158 2493 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3461.0678 [Okay.] 3461.6201 2494 DCB_int_01 3461.3026 [Personally.] 3462.0274 2495 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3462.4761 It feels like it doesn't affect me 3464.5402 2496 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3464.5402 (pause 0.21) 3464.7518 2497 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3464.7518 personally but in my 3465.8529 2498 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3465.8529 (pause 0.19) 3466.0392 2499 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3466.0392 pocket book because things are more expensive, so. 3470.1157 2500 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3470.1157 (pause 0.49) 3470.6068 2501 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3470.6068 3470.6965 2502 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3470.6965 (pause 0.23) 3470.9244 2503 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3470.9244 I feel like that's how it affects me. 3472.5156 2504 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3472.5156 (pause 0.13) 3472.6502 2505 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3472.6502 Um, 3473.4289 2506 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3473.4289 (pause 0.53) 3473.9549 2507 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3473.9549 it's also like 3474.9628 2508 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3474.9628 (pause 0.44) 3475.4012 2509 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3475.4012 I like- and maybe this is like the t- I don't know if this is the typical gentrification conversation but 3479.8652 2510 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3479.8652 (pause 1.77) 3481.6359 2511 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3481.6359 I like 3482.7473 2512 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3482.7473 (pause 1.24) 3483.9840 2513 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3483.9840 what- 3484.9677 2514 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3484.9677 (pause 0.37) 3485.3405 2515 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3485.3405 I like to see some of the changes that I see in DC I like seeing new businesses, I like that 3490.4189 2516 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3490.4189 (pause 0.51) 3490.9298 2517 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3490.9298 I feel if I go out 3492.5624 2518 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3492.5624 (pause 0.21) 3492.7695 2519 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3492.7695 there's so many new 3493.9327 2520 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3493.9327 (pause 0.23) 3494.1640 2521 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3494.1640 restaurants, bars, whatever that I can 3496.7537 2522 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3496.7537 (pause 0.56) 3497.3095 2523 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3497.3095 choose to- 3499.1285 2524 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3499.1285 (pause 0.14) 3499.2734 2525 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3499.2734 you know cause it's so much new 3501.5998 2526 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3501.5998 (pause 0.11) 3501.7148 2527 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3501.7148 coming into DC. 3502.9746 2528 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3502.9746 (pause 0.51) 3503.4889 2529 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3503.4889 But it's sad, I mean you grow- like, 3504.9248 2530 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3504.9248 (pause 0.16) 3505.0871 2531 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3505.0871 okay so growing up for me I thought all cities were like DC. 3508.8987 2532 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3508.8987 (pause 0.33) 3509.2266 2533 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3509.2266 So I thought 3510.0213 2534 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3510.0213 (pause 0.78) 3510.8040 2535 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3510.8040 it would be- 3511.9948 2536 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3511.9948 (pause 0.53) 3512.5205 2537 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3512.5205 I thought other cities were mostly black, I thought 3515.6270 2538 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3515.6270 (pause 0.26) 3515.8859 2539 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3515.8859 other cities 3516.8696 2540 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3516.8696 (pause 0.38) 3517.2458 2541 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3517.2458 were mostly black 3518.3686 2542 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3518.3686 (pause 0.14) 3518.5067 2543 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3518.5067 professionals. 3519.8977 2544 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3519.8977 (pause 0.62) 3520.5190 2545 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3520.5190 And not to say that doesn't exist other places but I always thought it was in- it was t- highly cult- 3524.2502 2546 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3524.2502 (pause 0.19) 3524.4411 2547 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3524.4411 uh, concentrated like it is here and then 3526.7211 2548 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3526.7211 (pause 0.33) 3527.0540 2549 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3527.0540 the older 3527.8583 2550 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3527.8583 (pause 0.18) 3528.0343 2551 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3528.0343 I get and the more I travel and 3530.5543 2552 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3530.5543 (pause 0.37) 3530.9244 2553 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3530.9244 kind of pay attention as much as I'm capable of paying attention to things 3533.6563 2554 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3533.6563 (pause 0.59) 3534.2449 2555 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3534.2449 outside of myself, um, 3535.7394 2556 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3535.7394 (pause 0.18) 3535.9224 2557 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3535.9224 3535.9845 2558 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3535.9845 (pause 1.49) 3537.4766 2559 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3537.4766 I'm like, oh it's not like this everywhere, DC is a little unique. 3541.1078 2560 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3541.1078 (pause 0.68) 3541.7843 2561 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3541.7843 It's very unique, so 3543.4790 2562 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3543.4790 (pause 2.26) 3545.7340 2563 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3545.7340 it's bittersweet in the fact that 3547.5634 2564 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3547.5634 (pause 0.42) 3547.9810 2565 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3547.9810 unfortunately 3549.1250 2566 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3549.1250 (pause 0.22) 3549.3455 2567 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3549.3455 as 3549.9470 2568 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3549.9470 (pause 0.45) 3550.3982 2569 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3550.3982 the city changes 3551.8962 2570 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3551.8962 (pause 0.95) 3552.8454 2571 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3552.8454 it's bringing in a lot of stuff that's good, 3555.0407 2572 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3555.0407 (pause 1.72) 3556.7641 2573 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3556.7641 but 3557.8401 2574 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3557.8401 (pause 0.11) 3557.9515 2575 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3557.9515 it's- 3558.7768 2576 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3558.7768 (pause 0.45) 3559.2286 2577 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3559.2286 I- it's- it's- it's sad to think about 3561.7424 2578 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3561.7424 (pause 0.13) 3561.8736 2579 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3561.8736 i- 3562.0358 2580 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3562.0358 (pause 0.20) 3562.2394 2581 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3562.2394 if it continues at this rate, 3563.8721 2582 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3563.8721 (pause 1.05) 3564.9179 2583 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3564.9179 if all the black people move out, 3566.0777 2584 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3566.0777 (pause 0.50) 3566.5826 2585 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3566.5826 that's obviously sad that 3568.6051 2586 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3568.6051 (pause 0.36) 3568.9608 2587 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3568.9608 we won't be here at all 3570.0382 2588 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3570.0382 (pause 0.50) 3570.5348 2589 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3570.5348 if things continue. 3571.5116 2590 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3571.5116 (pause 0.08) 3571.5945 2591 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3571.5945 So. 3571.9569 2592 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3571.9569 (pause 0.85) 3572.8036 2593 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3572.8036 I would say that part is sad. 3574.2822 2594 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3574.2822 (pause 0.97) 3575.2508 2595 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3575.2508 And you're just- it's just- it's- it's a unique experience, now that I'm older and I'm an adult and I understand it, it's a unique experience to walk around a neighborhood and 3582.0378 2596 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3582.0378 (pause 0.39) 3582.4312 2597 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3582.4312 you see a bunch of black people who are like- 3584.1131 2598 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3584.1131 (pause 0.32) 3584.4308 2599 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3584.4308 I don't say black people don't do well, but just so many 3587.4308 2600 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3587.4308 (pause 0.87) 3588.3001 2601 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3588.3001 uh, 3588.7315 2602 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3588.7315 (pause 0.10) 3588.8351 2603 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3588.8351 families that have been there for generations or 3592.0841 2604 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3592.0841 (pause 0.09) 3592.1704 2605 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3592.1704 you know. 3592.7304 2606 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3592.7304 (pause 0.25) 3592.9815 2607 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3592.9815 Even if they haven't been there for generations like 3594.8075 2608 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3594.8075 (pause 0.95) 3595.7532 2609 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3595.7532 professional, it's just 3597.5146 2610 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3597.5146 (pause 0.45) 3597.9633 2611 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3597.9633 to think of that culture leaving the city is 3600.2483 2612 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3600.2483 (pause 0.99) 3601.2389 2613 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3601.2389 sad. 3601.6669 2614 DCB_int_01 3603.7320 That was the question I was gonna ask you was your thoughts on that. 3605.8347 2615 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3605.8272 Yeah, 3606.3001 2616 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3606.4243 but 3606.7563 2617 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3606.7563 (pause 1.25) 3608.0052 2618 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3608.0052 3608.0673 2619 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3608.0673 (pause 0.60) 3608.6689 2620 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3608.6689 I'm- I d- I do like what- 3610.9712 2621 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3610.9712 (pause 1.65) 3612.6211 2622 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3612.6211 I do- I d- I d- I d- in some sense like it cause it is new and the neighborhoods are changing like, I don't remember there being much to do in- in Brookland. 3620.2478 2623 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3620.2478 (pause 0.68) 3620.9244 2624 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3620.9244 Like cause I lived in Brookland too. 3622.7814 2625 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3622.7814 (pause 0.19) 3622.9746 2626 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3622.9746 At some um, 3623.9653 2627 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3623.9653 (pause 0.14) 3624.1033 2628 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3624.1033 3624.2587 2629 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3624.2587 (pause 0.10) 3624.3622 2630 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3624.3622 like w- well my mom did when I was in college so that's where I would come home to and 3628.7814 2631 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3628.7814 (pause 0.45) 3629.2266 2632 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3629.2266 there wasn't much happening then and now like, one of my friends just moved kind of to that area and there's all kinds of stuff to do over there now. 3635.6345 2633 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3635.6345 (pause 0.81) 3636.4451 2634 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3636.4451 So I mean in- 3636.9593 2635 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3636.9593 (pause 0.68) 3637.6359 2636 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3637.6359 that's nice. 3638.7335 2637 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3638.7335 (pause 1.88) 3640.6157 2638 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3640.6157 But 3641.1886 2639 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3641.1886 (pause 2.32) 3643.5082 2640 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3643.5082 you know. 3643.8668 2641 DCB_int_01 3645.6112 So the other question I have that's totally- this is not related to anything actually, 3650.6164 2642 DCB_int_01 3650.6164 (pause 0.46) 3651.0762 2643 DCB_int_01 3651.0762 how did you meet /RD-NAME-3/? 3652.2816 2644 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3653.2542 3653.3474 2645 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3653.3474 (pause 0.09) 3653.4372 2646 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3653.4372 Law school. 3653.8790 2647 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3653.8790 (pause 0.34) 3654.2207 2648 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3654.2207 We were [in the same] section. 3655.0140 2649 DCB_int_01 3654.3967 [Mm.] 3654.6487 2650 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3656.4204 Section three, that's where 3657.8045 2651 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3657.8045 (pause 0.69) 3658.4983 2652 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3658.4983 I feel like 3659.2090 2653 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3659.2090 (pause 0.15) 3659.3543 2654 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3659.3543 at least 3659.9963 2655 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3659.9963 (pause 0.29) 3660.2897 2656 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3660.2897 at Howard 3661.0397 2657 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3661.0397 (pause 0.42) 3661.4633 2658 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3661.4633 for my class, I can't speak for other classes, 3663.3972 2659 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3663.3972 (pause 0.52) 3663.9184 2660 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3663.9184 you- 3664.5190 2661 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3664.5190 (pause 0.69) 3665.2128 2662 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3665.2128 I uh, most- 3665.9825 2663 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3665.9825 (pause 0.33) 3666.3173 2664 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3666.3173 most people seem to kind of- you make that foundation 3668.8819 2665 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3668.8819 (pause 0.42) 3669.3006 2666 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3669.3006 with the people cause l- 3670.2187 2667 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3670.2187 (pause 0.62) 3670.8366 2668 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3670.8366 law school can take a lot of your spirit and soul and 3674.1046 2669 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3674.1046 (pause 0.62) 3674.7276 2670 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3674.7276 you really come to rely heavily 3677.2526 2671 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3677.2526 (pause 0.63) 3677.8790 2672 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3677.8790 on 3678.7710 2673 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3678.7710 (pause 1.22) 3679.9948 2674 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3679.9948 the- 3680.1157 2675 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3680.1157 (pause 0.27) 3680.3824 2676 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3680.3824 the friends that you make especially early on cause it's just- it demands so much of you. 3684.2276 2677 DCB_int_01 3684.2587 Right. 3684.5451 2678 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3685.4115 And 3686.8992 2679 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3686.8992 (pause 0.61) 3687.5077 2680 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3687.5077 so you- 3688.2864 2681 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3688.2864 (pause 0.16) 3688.4431 2682 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3688.4431 the- lot of people I noticed in our class 3690.9214 2683 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3690.9214 (pause 0.24) 3691.1595 2684 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3691.1595 y- the people that they made friends with early on are the people that they remain closest to 3695.7375 2685 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3695.7375 (pause 0.31) 3696.0516 2686 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3696.0516 throughout the three years so he was in that group of people 3698.8888 2687 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3698.8888 (pause 0.62) 3699.5111 2688 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3699.5111 in my section 3700.4605 2689 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3700.4605 (pause 0.35) 3700.8055 2690 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3700.8055 that 3701.1149 2691 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3701.1149 (pause 0.72) 3701.8341 2692 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3701.8341 we've just all been really close 3703.2700 2693 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3703.2700 (pause 0.46) 3703.7291 2694 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3703.7291 since then. 3704.3051 2695 DCB_int_01 3707.3716 What's your favorite book or movie and why? 3709.6518 2696 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3712.7399 3712.8504 2697 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3712.8504 (pause 0.60) 3713.4510 2698 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3713.4510 So I'm a 3714.2069 2699 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3714.2069 (pause 0.41) 3714.6176 2700 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3714.6176 little- I would call my- I guess I would say I'm a film buff so this is hard. 3718.1931 2701 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3718.1931 (pause 3.69) 3721.8844 2702 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3721.8844 3721.9638 2703 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3721.9638 (pause 0.25) 3722.2133 2704 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3722.2133 I don't know. 3723.0373 2705 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3723.0373 (pause 1.39) 3724.4258 2706 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3724.4258 I hate that question actually, that's like my least favorite question. 3726.8489 2707 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3726.8489 (pause 0.39) 3727.2355 2708 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3727.2355 Um, 3727.9569 2709 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3727.9569 (pause 0.12) 3728.0787 2710 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3728.0787 cause I really don't, I mean- 3729.3188 2711 DCB_int_01 3731.9169 Maybe your last one then, let's say what's the last one you watched and 3735.0831 2712 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3735.0866 3735.1901 2713 DCB_int_01 3735.7631 tell me a [little bit about it.] 3736.7744 2714 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3736.1670 [Okay there let's-] that's a lot easier to [do, so] I r- 3739.5560 2715 DCB_int_01 3737.8893 [Mm-hm.] 3738.2200 2716 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3740.3824 I would say uh, 3742.3552 2717 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3742.3552 (pause 0.65) 3743.0057 2718 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3743.0057 I really like Birdman which won the last 3745.5220 2719 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3745.5220 (pause 0.53) 3746.0545 2720 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3746.0545 Oscars, I just thought it was different and 3749.5959 2721 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3749.5959 (pause 0.95) 3750.5451 2722 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3750.5451 unique 3751.7498 2723 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3751.7498 (pause 0.06) 3751.8129 2724 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3751.8129 in telling a story, I also liked that it was kind of a parody on the people who were in it too. 3755.8209 2725 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3755.8209 (pause 0.10) 3755.9204 2726 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3755.9204 3756.0205 2727 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3756.0205 (pause 0.41) 3756.4347 2728 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3756.4347 Like I feel like Michael Keaton kind of played himself, I feel like what's his face who's name is escaping me kind of played himself, the other main guy in it, he's from Colu- he's from here, he's from Columbia. 3764.5747 2729 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3764.5747 (pause 0.92) 3765.4973 2730 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3765.4973 What is your name? 3766.3360 2731 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3766.3360 (pause 0.86) 3767.1990 2732 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3767.1990 Dude who was in- 3768.4174 2733 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3768.4174 (pause 1.07) 3769.4840 2734 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3769.4840 oh my god. 3770.2907 2735 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3770.2907 (pause 1.36) 3771.6527 2736 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3771.6527 For some reason his name isn't here, it has left, but I- th- he- I felt like he was kind of playing himself so I'd say that was the last movie that I really liked that I've seen. 3779.4505 2737 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3779.4505 (pause 0.98) 3780.4347 2738 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3780.4347 I mean I really liked Straight Outta Compton too and 3782.3307 2739 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3782.3307 (pause 0.21) 3782.5412 2740 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3782.5412 it's not a favorite. 3783.2506 2741 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3783.2506 (pause 0.43) 3783.6803 2742 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3783.6803 It's not a favorite but that was one of the- I'm thinking of /one of-/ some of the last movies I saw. 3787.0699 2743 DCB_int_01 3787.2148 Is it good? 3787.6635 2744 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3787.3080 [I like] that one. I liked it. 3788.3928 2745 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3788.6172 I thought it was good. 3789.1785 2746 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3789.1785 (pause 0.23) 3789.4041 2747 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3789.4041 It was b- 3789.7615 2748 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3789.7615 (pause 0.44) 3790.2049 2749 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3790.2049 It exceeded my expectations. 3792.4589 2750 DCB_int_01 3792.6452 I've been wanting to see it. 3793.5468 2751 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3793.6980 Yeah it's- I thought it was worth it. 3795.3040 2752 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3795.3040 (pause 0.29) 3795.5940 2753 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3795.5940 Felt like, you know. 3796.3900 2754 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3796.3900 (pause 0.58) 3796.9746 2755 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3796.9746 T- it gave me- I feel like that was a- 3798.7005 2756 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3798.7005 (pause 1.43) 3800.1260 2757 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3800.1260 that w- w- I feel like N.W.A. was 3803.1093 2758 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3803.1093 (pause 0.31) 3803.4234 2759 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3803.4234 the generation before me, I didn't grow up on them. 3806.1460 2760 DCB_int_01 3806.1857 Mm-hm. 3806.7310 2761 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3807.0037 So it was interesti- but you know who they are. 3809.6357 2762 DCB_int_01 3809.9722 Yup. 3810.2138 2763 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3810.6349 So it was interesting seeing that story cause I didn't know it. 3813.9625 2764 DCB_int_01 3814.3464 Mm. 3814.6998 2765 DCB_int_01 3814.6998 (pause 0.42) 3815.1196 2766 DCB_int_01 3815.1196 Have you seen War Room? 3816.0349 2767 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3817.7015 No, which one is that? 3818.7370 2768 DCB_int_01 3819.0624 That's like the- 3820.0013 2769 DCB_int_01 3820.0013 (pause 0.69) 3820.6916 2770 DCB_int_01 3820.6916 think it's like a Christian movie like 3822.9317 2771 DCB_int_01 3822.9317 (pause 0.61) 3823.5427 2772 DCB_int_01 3823.5427 they- 3823.8064 2773 DCB_int_01 3823.8064 (pause 0.68) 3824.4894 2774 DCB_int_01 3824.4894 something about prayer 3825.6321 2775 DCB_int_01 3825.6321 (pause 0.26) 3825.8874 2776 DCB_int_01 3825.8874 and like testimony like they have this whole 3828.2986 2777 DCB_int_01 3828.2986 (pause 0.63) 3828.9283 2778 DCB_int_01 3828.9283 situation like 3830.0190 2779 DCB_int_01 3830.0190 (pause 0.15) 3830.1650 2780 DCB_int_01 3830.1650 their marriage is on the rocks or something, I haven't seen it. 3832.1966 2781 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3832.2809 Who's they? 3832.8469 2782 DCB_int_01 3833.6926 Some couple in the mo- I don't know- I don't- it's not [like a well] known- 3836.7621 2783 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3835.6393 [Oh.] 3836.1513 2784 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3836.1513 (pause 0.52) 3836.6724 2785 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3836.6724 [Okay] yeah [no I have not seen] that one. 3838.5671 2786 DCB_int_01 3837.2764 [They're like- they're kind of-] 3837.9806 2787 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3838.7641 I've gotten away from going to the movies the way I used to and I told myself I was gonna get back into it. 3843.5457 2788 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3843.5457 (pause 0.93) 3844.4776 2789 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3844.4776 Um, 3845.0376 2790 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3845.0376 (pause 0.29) 3845.3233 2791 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3845.3233 3845.4026 2792 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3845.4026 (pause 0.13) 3845.5304 2793 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3845.5304 but yeah. 3845.9917 2794 DCB_int_01 3846.7074 So, 3847.2182 2795 DCB_int_01 3847.2182 (pause 0.29) 3847.5082 2796 DCB_int_01 3847.5082 3847.8495 2797 DCB_int_01 3847.8495 (pause 0.19) 3848.0373 2798 DCB_int_01 3848.0373 last two couple of things before- 3850.2049 2799 DCB_int_01 3850.2049 (pause 0.36) 3850.5604 2800 DCB_int_01 3850.5604 Um, 3851.1724 2801 DCB_int_01 3851.1724 (pause 0.83) 3852.0032 2802 DCB_int_01 3852.0032 unique to DC- 3853.0940 2803 DCB_int_01 3853.0940 (pause 0.19) 3853.2873 2804 DCB_int_01 3853.2873 there are a few things that are unique to DC. 3855.1349 2805 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3855.1315 Mm-hm. 3855.6261 2806 DCB_int_01 3856.6157 Go go music. 3857.5117 2807 DCB_int_01 3857.5117 (pause 1.52) 3859.0353 2808 DCB_int_01 3859.0353 Do you have any feeling? Can you talk about it? Do you have any experiences with it? 3863.0264 2809 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3863.2577 Yeah. 3863.6537 2810 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3863.6537 (pause 0.87) 3864.5244 2811 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3864.5244 Um, 3865.3671 2812 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3865.3671 (pause 0.29) 3865.6531 2813 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3865.6531 3865.6980 2814 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3865.6980 (pause 0.70) 3866.3963 2815 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3866.3963 so, 3867.7942 2816 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3867.7942 (pause 0.92) 3868.7123 2817 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3868.7123 that was one good thing was /RD-SCHOOL-2/ had a go go for homecoming every year. 3873.0675 2818 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3873.0675 (pause 0.59) 3873.6527 2819 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3873.6527 And Junk Yard would come. 3874.9091 2820 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3874.9091 (pause 0.11) 3875.0161 2821 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3875.0161 So- 3875.6995 2822 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3875.6995 (pause 1.01) 3876.7108 2823 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3876.7108 You're not from DC, right? 3877.7532 2824 DCB_int_01 3877.6707 N- but I know Junk Yard. 3878.8150 2825 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3878.9520 Okay. 3879.3351 2826 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3879.3351 (pause 0.30) 3879.6354 2827 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3879.6354 So, 3880.3326 2828 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3880.3326 (pause 0.28) 3880.6088 2829 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3880.6088 growing up in- /?/ going to high school in DC. 3883.5845 2830 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3883.5845 (pause 1.29) 3884.8760 2831 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3884.8760 I don't- I don't- still don't know why 3887.1507 2832 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3887.1507 (pause 0.16) 3887.3095 2833 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3887.3095 this ha- I like- I literally to this day I would love for someone to tell me why. 3891.2638 2834 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3891.2638 (pause 0.41) 3891.6768 2835 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3891.6768 But 3892.1601 2836 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3892.1601 (pause 1.13) 3893.2922 2837 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3893.2922 schools like /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 3894.5866 2838 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3894.5866 (pause 0.48) 3895.0698 2839 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3895.0698 there was one at I wanna say Sidwell, 3898.3958 2840 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3898.3958 (pause 0.88) 3899.2784 2841 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3899.2784 there might have been one at NCS, I know what- 3901.2389 2842 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3901.2389 (pause 0.13) 3901.3666 2843 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3901.3666 ugh, /give-/ 3902.6106 2844 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3902.6106 (pause 0.87) 3903.4801 2845 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3903.4801 What did- Holton I feel like had one, if not Holton then maybe it's Brother's School but all of these 3908.1418 2846 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3908.1418 (pause 0.51) 3908.6541 2847 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3908.6541 mostly white affluent schools, at least when- you know, 3912.1827 2848 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3912.1827 (pause 1.08) 3913.2665 2849 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3913.2665 the late nineties, 3914.5506 2850 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3914.5506 (pause 0.70) 3915.2523 2851 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3915.2523 they would have- they would host go gos. 3917.7409 2852 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3917.7409 (pause 0.41) 3918.1551 2853 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3918.1551 So, yeah. 3919.3770 2854 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3919.3770 (pause 0.29) 3919.6669 2855 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3919.6669 So my school was one, so every year for homecoming we had Junk Yard. 3924.0109 2856 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3924.0109 (pause 0.73) 3924.7384 2857 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3924.7384 And then- 3925.7843 2858 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3925.7843 (pause 0.36) 3926.1477 2859 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3926.1477 yeah, so these bands, and like the major ones, would go to these white schools and I don't know why. I- I would love for somebody to tell me why, I don't know why. 3933.3131 2860 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3933.3131 (pause 0.59) 3933.9012 2861 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3933.9012 Um, 3934.4425 2862 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3934.4425 (pause 0.62) 3935.0609 2863 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3935.0609 3935.1300 2864 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3935.1300 (pause 1.13) 3936.2587 2865 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3936.2587 and so it would- 3937.1975 2866 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3937.1975 (pause 1.63) 3938.8243 2867 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3938.8243 it would bring 3939.9633 2868 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3939.9633 (pause 0.31) 3940.2740 2869 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3940.2740 a 3940.7166 2870 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3940.7166 (pause 0.62) 3941.3405 2871 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3941.3405 different dynamic 3942.8392 2872 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3942.8392 (pause 0.64) 3943.4805 2873 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3943.4805 to the school at least for that evening which was interesting, so I would attend those. 3947.6236 2874 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3947.6236 (pause 0.34) 3947.9639 2875 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3947.9639 3948.0786 2876 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3948.0786 (pause 0.92) 3948.9961 2877 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3948.9961 and one of my friends growing up 3951.1638 2878 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3951.1638 (pause 0.58) 3951.7429 2879 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3951.7429 um, 3952.4883 2880 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3952.4883 (pause 0.60) 3953.0880 2881 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3953.0880 who went to my middle school with me and my church, 3955.3041 2882 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3955.3041 (pause 0.51) 3955.8174 2883 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3955.8174 he was 3956.7837 2884 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3956.7837 (pause 0.28) 3957.0652 2885 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3957.0652 into it like, I feel like if I remember 3960.1079 2886 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3960.1079 (pause 0.55) 3960.6590 2887 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3960.6590 he 3961.5323 2888 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3961.5323 (pause 0.78) 3962.3145 2889 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3962.3145 would like carry drums for like Backyard or something, I mean maybe that's not true maybe I'm exaggerating, I feel like it was some band that he really kind of like knew them and 3970.8308 2890 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3970.8308 (pause 0.14) 3970.9733 2891 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3970.9733 maybe would like, kind of help out a little bit if I remember. 3974.1535 2892 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3974.1535 (pause 0.36) 3974.5160 2893 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3974.5160 But he was like into it so sometimes I would go with 3977.0011 2894 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3977.0011 (pause 0.67) 3977.6754 2895 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3977.6754 him and his friends or I feel like if you- 3979.4954 2896 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3979.4954 (pause 1.14) 3980.6332 2897 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3980.6332 feel like at that age in high school espe- like if you hear about one 3983.9152 2898 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3983.9152 (pause 0.24) 3984.1585 2899 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3984.1585 that's at one of those high schools that I mentioned or you just hear about one period, 3987.7945 2900 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3987.7945 (pause 0.48) 3988.2712 2901 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3988.2712 you'd go to it. I feel like the friend that I mentioned, the guy, 3991.5625 2902 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3991.5625 (pause 0.38) 3991.9391 2903 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3991.9391 I went with him and his friends to the Black Hole 3994.5180 2904 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3994.5180 (pause 0.27) 3994.7926 2905 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3994.7926 at least once. 3996.1689 2906 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3996.1689 (pause 1.68) 3997.8442 2907 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3997.8442 Which was like awful. 3999.2362 2908 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3999.2362 (pause 0.30) 3999.5379 2909 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 3999.5379 But um, 4000.4624 2910 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4000.4624 (pause 0.94) 4001.4043 2911 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4001.4043 cause it was just like- it's one thing to go to like- 4004.8696 2912 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4004.8696 (pause 1.57) 4006.4415 2913 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4006.4415 I'm sure I sound racist and now I sound like something else but that's fine. Um, so it's different to go to the ones that were at like the schools, 4013.7136 2914 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4013.7136 (pause 0.40) 4014.1133 2915 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4014.1133 and then to go to that, 4015.5418 2916 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4015.5418 (pause 0.73) 4016.2682 2917 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4016.2682 where 4016.8095 2918 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4016.8095 (pause 1.68) 4018.4937 2919 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4018.4937 you know, 4019.1712 2920 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4019.1712 (pause 0.27) 4019.4425 2921 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4019.4425 I got separated from them at one point which was a mistake cause I was like, I wanna go to the front, and it was just- it was just bad, you know it was just- it was different. But it w- it was alright, it was fun. 4026.7285 2922 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4026.7285 (pause 0.85) 4027.5766 2923 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4027.5766 Yet bad. 4028.1392 2924 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4028.1392 (pause 0.68) 4028.8184 2925 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4028.8184 Um, 4029.4301 2926 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4029.4301 (pause 0.49) 4029.9237 2927 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4029.9237 so yeah I- I- I attended. 4031.4321 2928 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4031.4321 (pause 0.79) 4032.2211 2929 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4032.2211 And then in college when I would come home, 4034.0979 2930 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4034.0979 (pause 0.79) 4034.8845 2931 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4034.8845 um, 4035.5205 2932 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4035.5205 (pause 0.73) 4036.2469 2933 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4036.2469 4036.3234 2934 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4036.3234 (pause 0.50) 4036.8273 2935 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4036.8273 my mostly non-high school friends would- 4040.7802 2936 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4040.7802 (pause 1.12) 4041.8959 2937 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4041.8959 I mean I guess the black kids who went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ would go too. 4044.7036 2938 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4044.7036 (pause 0.76) 4045.4653 2939 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4045.4653 Yeah, I feel like- 4046.2907 2940 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4046.2907 (pause 2.14) 4048.4346 2941 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4048.4346 yeah. 4048.7891 2942 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4048.7891 (pause 0.15) 4048.9386 2943 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4048.9386 I went. 4049.3174 2944 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4049.3174 (pause 0.43) 4049.7484 2945 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4049.7484 I was there. 4050.3550 2946 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4050.3550 (pause 0.21) 4050.5652 2947 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4050.5652 Wasn't as into it as my friend who was like, carrying equipment. 4053.9306 2948 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4053.9306 (pause 0.72) 4054.6501 2949 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4054.6501 And I wasn't into it like I wasn't going to the mall to buy the tapes. 4058.2474 2950 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4058.2474 (pause 0.60) 4058.8427 2951 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4058.8427 But I would enjoy it when it was on the radio, 4060.5736 2952 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4060.5736 (pause 0.30) 4060.8760 2953 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4060.8760 and I would attend them 4062.5825 2954 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4062.5825 (pause 0.93) 4063.5140 2955 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4063.5140 when I would hear about them. 4064.5719 2956 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4064.5719 (pause 0.92) 4065.4892 2957 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4065.4892 Um, 4066.1452 2958 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4066.1452 (pause 0.87) 4067.0150 2959 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4067.0150 and that was something that I feel like growing up I didn't even realize that was unique to DC until 4070.7281 2960 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4070.7281 (pause 0.35) 4071.0756 2961 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4071.0756 you meet kids who like 4072.0356 2962 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4072.0356 (pause 0.44) 4072.4763 2963 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4072.4763 didn't really grow up here and 4074.2286 2964 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4074.2286 (pause 0.16) 4074.3879 2965 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4074.3879 then they'd be like- 4075.0865 2966 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4075.0865 (pause 0.12) 4075.2047 2967 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4075.2047 oh especially when I went to college, 4076.5219 2968 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4076.5219 (pause 0.38) 4076.9053 2969 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4076.9053 I'd bring my f- 4077.3606 2970 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4077.3606 (pause 0.11) 4077.4718 2971 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4077.4718 like, one of my friends who from college bring her home and she would come home and visit with me and she'd be like, what is this? 4083.8478 2972 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4083.8478 (pause 0.60) 4084.4450 2973 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4084.4450 She didn't say, what is this she knew what it was cause she had family here but she would be like, every time I hear this I don't get it. 4088.6957 2974 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4088.6957 (pause 0.29) 4088.9853 2975 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4088.9853 And I'm like, 4089.9132 2976 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4089.9132 (pause 0.14) 4090.0523 2977 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4090.0523 what do you mean you don't get it? 4090.9136 2978 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4090.9136 (pause 0.24) 4091.1540 2979 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4091.1540 It's music. 4091.9034 2980 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4091.9034 (pause 0.64) 4092.5478 2981 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4092.5478 I didn't realize how unique it was until like I'm a little older. 4095.2057 2982 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4095.2057 (pause 0.96) 4096.1635 2983 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4096.1635 But yeah. 4096.5889 2984 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4096.5889 (pause 0.33) 4096.9212 2985 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4096.9212 It's still fun when it comes on the radio it's like nostalgic. 4099.6261 2986 DCB_int_01 4101.3467 What about mumbo sauce? 4102.5880 2987 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4104.4157 4104.5026 2988 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4104.5026 (pause 0.75) 4105.2568 2989 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4105.2568 I mean I've eaten it. 4107.0061 2990 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4107.0061 (pause 1.49) 4108.5006 2991 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4108.5006 It's- 4109.2220 2992 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4109.2220 (pause 1.53) 4110.7528 2993 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4110.7528 I mean it's something that I feel like you get on your fried chicken when I would 4114.5423 2994 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4114.5423 (pause 0.29) 4114.8273 2995 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4114.8273 you know, uh- 4115.3244 2996 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4115.3244 (pause 0.15) 4115.4703 2997 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4115.4703 go to carry outs and whatnot growing up. 4117.6600 2998 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4117.6600 (pause 0.24) 4117.9033 2999 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4117.9033 Um, 4118.6401 3000 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4118.6401 (pause 0.96) 4119.6004 3001 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4119.6004 something else I didn't really realize was unique to DC until I got older. 4123.4896 3002 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4123.4896 (pause 0.75) 4124.2404 3003 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4124.2404 It's tasty. 4125.2018 3004 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4125.2018 (pause 1.26) 4126.4659 3005 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4126.4659 4126.6223 3006 DCB_int_01 4127.9291 Describe it. 4128.5718 3007 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4129.3506 It's 4130.1709 3008 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4130.1709 (pause 1.51) 4131.6804 3009 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4131.6804 red in color, 4132.8065 3010 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4132.8065 (pause 1.57) 4134.3775 3011 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4134.3775 sweet in taste, 4135.6878 3012 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4135.6878 (pause 1.88) 4137.5657 3013 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4137.5657 usually some kind of uh, 4139.4084 3014 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4139.4084 (pause 1.01) 4140.4157 3015 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4140.4157 4140.4783 3016 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4140.4783 (pause 0.26) 4140.7389 3017 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4140.7389 not 4141.0483 3018 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4141.0483 (pause 0.21) 4141.2603 3019 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4141.2603 jelly but 4142.6216 3020 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4142.6216 (pause 0.45) 4143.0687 3021 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4143.0687 almost like a sweet and sour sauce is probably the closest, uh, thing I can think of. 4147.4619 3022 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4147.4619 (pause 1.86) 4149.3259 3023 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4149.3259 But it's just something I feel like you just- 4151.1819 3024 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4151.1819 (pause 0.54) 4151.7171 3025 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4151.7171 it's just one of those cultural things to DC that you just grow up with that you don't even think about. 4156.3442 3026 DCB_int_01 4157.8492 It's very much unique to DC. 4159.3854 3027 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4159.4271 Yeah I didn't know that. 4160.3482 3028 DCB_int_01 4160.4778 I didn't- well I 4161.4823 3029 DCB_int_01 4161.4823 (pause 0.12) 4161.6039 3030 DCB_int_01 4161.6039 knew [because I didn't know what] it was. 4163.3383 3031 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4162.1183 [Yeah.] 4162.5770 3032 DCB_int_01 4164.5825 What about the carry out? 4165.7921 3033 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4167.9306 4168.0140 3034 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4168.0140 (pause 1.04) 4169.0567 3035 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4169.0567 Um, 4170.4296 3036 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4170.4296 (pause 1.00) 4171.4341 3037 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4171.4341 4171.5036 3038 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4171.5036 (pause 0.15) 4171.6530 3039 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4171.6530 I feel like 4173.8944 3040 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4173.8944 (pause 1.24) 4175.1297 3041 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4175.1297 that's someth- there was- 4176.9266 3042 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4176.9266 (pause 0.55) 4177.4723 3043 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4177.4723 they weren't really in my neighborhoods growing up, 4179.9798 3044 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4179.9798 (pause 0.75) 4180.7300 3045 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4180.7300 but there was one across the street from my dance class, which is why I've always been fat and- 4187.5781 3046 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4187.5781 (pause 0.67) 4188.2489 3047 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4188.2489 I shouldn't say that cause I didn't go that often but 4190.1275 3048 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4190.1275 (pause 0.28) 4190.4118 3049 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4190.4118 you know, that's one of the reasons. 4191.7985 3050 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4191.7985 (pause 0.35) 4192.1461 3051 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4192.1461 There was one near my church although my dance school and my church were kind of in the same neighborhood. 4195.8225 3052 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4195.8225 (pause 0.72) 4196.5404 3053 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4196.5404 Um, 4197.2844 3054 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4197.2844 (pause 1.07) 4198.3581 3055 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4198.3581 I remember one of my friends got robbed and I laughed at her, 4201.6904 3056 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4201.6904 (pause 0.85) 4202.5393 3057 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4202.5393 um- 4203.4046 3058 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4203.4046 (pause 0.43) 4203.8368 3059 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4203.8368 4203.8993 3060 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4203.8993 (pause 0.81) 4204.7057 3061 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4204.7057 It's not funny I just didn't really like her, but she- she got robbed. 4208.2369 3062 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4208.2369 (pause 0.73) 4208.9713 3063 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4208.9713 Like, he didn't have a gun, he pretended to have a gun and robbed her and she was- 4213.1715 3064 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4213.1715 (pause 0.35) 4213.5244 3065 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4213.5244 and she should have been traumatized, 4216.0523 3066 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4216.0523 (pause 0.56) 4216.6153 3067 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4216.6153 but a bunch of us, you know, when you're young and you're mean, 4219.9500 3068 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4219.9500 (pause 0.81) 4220.7628 3069 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4220.7628 we chuckled, not to her face. 4222.3790 3070 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4222.3790 (pause 0.58) 4222.9629 3071 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4222.9629 Um, 4223.7310 3072 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4223.7310 (pause 0.30) 4224.0299 3073 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4224.0299 so that's just one of the memories that I have when I think of carry outs, but I mean 4227.9445 3074 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4227.9445 (pause 1.02) 4228.9664 3075 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4228.9664 I try not to go that often, they're not very healthy. 4231.4739 3076 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4231.4739 (pause 0.58) 4232.0527 3077 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4232.0527 I feel like when I got older and I moved back to DC there are things that are open 4235.3209 3078 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4235.3209 (pause 0.70) 4236.0195 3079 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4236.0195 very late at night 4237.2151 3080 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4237.2151 (pause 0.18) 4237.3924 3081 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4237.3924 after 4238.1952 3082 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4238.1952 (pause 0.11) 4238.3064 3083 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4238.3064 clubs and whatnot when you're inebriated. 4240.5180 3084 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4240.5180 (pause 0.55) 4241.0672 3085 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4241.0672 I hope that doesn't make it to the final cut of this uh, video but that's 4244.7548 3086 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4244.7548 (pause 0.35) 4245.1034 3087 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4245.1034 I feel like their 4245.9132 3088 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4245.9132 (pause 0.19) 4246.1009 3089 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4246.1009 purpose 4246.8263 3090 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4246.8263 (pause 0.13) 4246.9594 3091 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4246.9594 primarily in my life where 4248.9718 3092 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4248.9718 (pause 1.36) 4250.3318 3093 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4250.3318 I would attend randomly like growing up and 4254.1168 3094 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4254.1168 (pause 0.86) 4254.9718 3095 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4254.9718 very often 4256.3343 3096 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4256.3343 (pause 0.24) 4256.5786 3097 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4256.5786 at three AM after being at somebody's party. 4259.5690 3098 DCB_int_01 4260.9961 Okay. 4261.5081 3099 DCB_int_01 4261.5081 (pause 0.27) 4261.7757 3100 DCB_int_01 4261.7757 Can you describe a carry- like, do you go in? Do you order? Do you 4265.1984 3101 DCB_int_01 4265.1984 (pause 1.26) 4266.4539 3102 DCB_int_01 4266.4539 sit and eat there? Well not at three in the morning, I don't know. 4268.6714 3103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4268.8567 No. 4269.2606 3104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4269.2606 (pause 0.60) 4269.8611 3105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4269.8611 N- no all of the above. Like I feel like 4272.2079 3106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4272.2079 (pause 4.63) 4276.8412 3107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4276.8412 I feel like I've probably eaten at them maybe when I was in high school but 4280.3968 3108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4280.3968 (pause 1.12) 4281.5205 3109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4281.5205 I feel like when I was older and I would go, you go, you order your meal, 4285.7152 3110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4285.7152 (pause 1.17) 4286.8810 3111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4286.8810 there are a bunch of 4287.9967 3112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4287.9967 (pause 1.08) 4289.0776 3113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4289.0776 graphics on the wall, pictures of the food. 4291.7538 3114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4291.7538 (pause 1.11) 4292.8601 3115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4292.8601 A lot of times you would l- say, I'd like number eleven, 4295.3313 3116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4295.3313 (pause 2.72) 4298.0492 3117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4298.0492 or you say, I would like the three wings, 4300.5959 3118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4300.5959 (pause 0.95) 4301.5503 3119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4301.5503 mumbo sauce, 4303.1129 3120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4303.1129 (pause 0.54) 4303.6530 3121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4303.6530 fries with ketchup, 4304.9018 3122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4304.9018 (pause 0.11) 4305.0096 3123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4305.0096 whichever is your- you know, 4306.7683 3124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4306.7683 (pause 1.73) 4308.4991 3125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4308.4991 tickles your fancy, and I would usually take it and go eat it at home. 4312.5354 3126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4312.5354 (pause 1.79) 4314.3219 3127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4314.3219 Uh, 4315.0472 3128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4315.0472 (pause 1.83) 4316.8740 3129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4316.8740 plus I feel like here a lot of the carry outs are also like Chinese food places 4320.3655 3130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4320.3655 (pause 0.69) 4321.0587 3131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4321.0587 too, so it's 4322.1049 3132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4322.1049 (pause 0.40) 4322.5056 3133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4322.5056 I feel like you can get Chinese food 4323.8507 3134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4323.8507 (pause 0.39) 4324.2400 3135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4324.2400 or wings, 4325.1333 3136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4325.1333 (pause 0.34) 4325.4703 3137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4325.4703 or pizza, 4326.3601 3138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4326.3601 (pause 0.35) 4326.7146 3139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4326.7146 or subs and I don't know if that's unique to DC, 4329.0466 3140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4329.0466 (pause 0.30) 4329.3467 3141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4329.3467 but that's kind of like how I envision it. 4331.8596 3142 DCB_int_01 4333.0761 [It is.] 4333.6505 3143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4333.5731 [Yeah.] 4334.0144 3144 DCB_int_01 4333.9067 Mm-hm. 4334.1800 3145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4334.2137 [Okay.] 4334.6590 3146 DCB_int_01 4334.6724 It's your one stop shop. 4335.7777 3147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4335.7638 It is a one [stop shop.] 4337.2409 3148 DCB_int_01 4336.5180 [It's like Walmart of] 4337.4773 3149 DCB_int_01 4337.9673 food. 4338.3636 3150 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4338.7111 I've never ordered a pizza from one of those places though cause 4341.9723 3151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4341.9723 (pause 0.40) 4342.3686 3152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4342.3686 it's not some- yeah, I would think that's not their specialty. 4345.1510 3153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4345.1510 (pause 0.26) 4345.4097 3154 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4345.4097 4345.5140 3155 DCB_int_01 4345.5175 Um, 4346.0666 3156 DCB_int_01 4346.0666 (pause 0.22) 4346.2832 3157 DCB_int_01 4346.2832 if you could leave one piece of advice, what would it be? 4348.5859 3158 DCB_int_01 4348.5859 (pause 1.40) 4349.9882 3159 DCB_int_01 4349.9882 To- 4350.9495 3160 DCB_int_01 4350.9495 (pause 1.62) 4352.5706 3161 DCB_int_01 4352.5706 to anybody. 4353.1208 3162 DCB_int_01 4353.1208 (pause 1.38) 4354.5006 3163 DCB_int_01 4354.5006 Young people. 4355.1300 3164 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4357.7816 [Mm.] 4359.8576 3165 DCB_int_01 4357.8685 [Old people.] 4358.4179 3166 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4359.9862 I would 4360.4763 3167 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4360.4763 (pause 0.12) 4360.5945 3168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4360.5945 think that I probably wouldn't have much advice for an old person. 4363.7191 3169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4363.7191 (pause 0.21) 4363.9241 3170 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4363.9241 4364.0284 3171 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4364.0284 (pause 0.55) 4364.5810 3172 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4364.5810 [But-] 4365.4098 3173 DCB_int_01 4365.1208 [You never] know. 4365.7915 3174 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4365.8889 Mm, it's true. I don't know. 4368.0383 3175 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4368.0383 (pause 1.04) 4369.0795 3176 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4369.0795 Uh, 4370.0979 3177 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4370.0979 (pause 2.82) 4372.9177 3178 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4372.9177 I don't know, maybe 4374.6526 3179 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4374.6526 (pause 2.86) 4377.5135 3180 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4377.5135 for me, 4378.6002 3181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4378.6002 (pause 1.06) 4379.6650 3182 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4379.6650 I guess one piece of advice is- 4382.4303 3183 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4382.4303 (pause 0.63) 4383.0617 3184 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4383.0617 Okay. 4383.4545 3185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4383.4545 (pause 0.33) 4383.7881 3186 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4383.7881 I guess from someone who 4385.1655 3187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4385.1655 (pause 0.75) 4385.9187 3188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4385.9187 has grown up with education being such a central part of 4390.1218 3189 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4390.1218 (pause 0.79) 4390.9073 3190 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4390.9073 my life with parents who were involved in education and 4395.1033 3191 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4395.1033 (pause 2.02) 4397.1262 3192 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4397.1262 have had a- have had a lot of it is, uh, 4400.0929 3193 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4400.0929 (pause 1.88) 4401.9758 3194 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4401.9758 you don't have to- 4403.1471 3195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4403.1471 (pause 0.77) 4403.9152 3196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4403.9152 especially in today's day in age, you don't have to think of that- you don't have to think of going that traditional 4408.9118 3197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4408.9118 (pause 0.67) 4409.5781 3198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4409.5781 path. 4410.3888 3199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4410.3888 (pause 0.07) 4410.4539 3200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4410.4539 Think about what you want, 4411.9113 3201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4411.9113 (pause 0.71) 4412.6168 3202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4412.6168 and if there's an alternative route to- maybe I shouldn't say that in a university study but 4416.9058 3203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4416.9058 (pause 0.27) 4417.1769 3204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4417.1769 listen, you guys take a lot of our money, okay? 4418.9008 3205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4418.9008 (pause 0.61) 4419.5066 3206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4419.5066 Um, 4420.2866 3207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4420.2866 (pause 0.15) 4420.4381 3208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4420.4381 4420.5111 3209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4420.5111 (pause 0.33) 4420.8412 3210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4420.8412 if there's 4421.3869 3211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4421.3869 (pause 0.14) 4421.5294 3212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4421.5294 another 4422.4361 3213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4422.4361 (pause 0.72) 4423.1595 3214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4423.1595 way to get there, 4424.6928 3215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4424.6928 (pause 0.47) 4425.1625 3216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4425.1625 don't be afraid to think of that. 4427.2212 3217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4427.2212 (pause 1.57) 4428.7911 3218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4428.7911 Save you some coins. 4430.2335 3219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4430.2335 (pause 0.95) 4431.1868 3220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4431.1868 Um, 4431.7846 3221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4431.7846 (pause 1.60) 4433.3800 3222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4433.3800 So that- that probably'd be the advice I'd give, think about what you really wanna do, 4436.5671 3223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4436.5671 (pause 0.68) 4437.2424 3224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4437.2424 and go after that, and if it's not a traditional 4440.6659 3225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4440.6659 (pause 0.32) 4440.9857 3226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4440.9857 route, 4441.6964 3227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4441.6964 (pause 0.60) 4442.2960 3228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4442.2960 don't be 4443.1451 3229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4443.1451 (pause 0.11) 4443.2529 3230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_01 4443.2529 afraid of that. 4444.3964