Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.5310 And can you give me your birthday? 2.1924 2 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2.6397 Seven two zero seven eight. 4.0319 3 DCB_int_01 8.3695 Oh. 9.0568 4 DCB_int_01 9.0568 (pause 0.83) 9.8843 5 DCB_int_01 9.8843 Your birthday's the twentieth, mine's the twenty-seventh. 11.8963 6 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 12.0305 12.1373 7 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 12.1373 (pause 0.35) 12.4910 8 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 12.4910 Twenty-second? 13.0883 9 DCB_int_01 13.2150 Twenty-seventh. 13.8523 10 DCB_int_01 13.8523 (pause 0.23) 14.0825 11 DCB_int_01 14.0825 So we're a week [apart.] 15.1803 12 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 14.5663 [You's almost-] 15.4372 13 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 15.7742 15.8743 14 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 15.8743 (pause 0.39) 16.2613 15 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 16.2613 almost a Cancer. 17.2720 16 DCB_int_01 17.5701 Uh, no, a Leo, Leo's are best, Leo's are best. 19.9391 17 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 19.9591 See, I was gonna say we was still good because you was in July at least. 22.7251 18 DCB_int_01 22.9128 I was gonna give you [July] but you went with the Cancer [thing.] 25.3574 19 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 23.5300 [But-] 23.8237 20 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 23.8237 (pause 1.26) 25.0816 21 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 25.0816 [I was like], almost a Cancer. I ain't say nothing bad though. 27.4605 22 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 28.6091 [See.] 29.0863 23 DCB_int_01 28.8494 [I-] I was trying to go with the- [You know what, we gonna] move on. 30.8294 24 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 29.8537 [See.] 30.3870 25 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 30.9881 [] 32.5964 26 DCB_int_01 31.4653 [Um, where were you born?] 32.8452 27 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 33.2570 Um, Washington, DC. 34.5124 28 DCB_int_01 35.3198 What neighborhood do you claim? 36.5544 29 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 37.2317 Wow, there's so many. So, 38.8533 30 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 38.8533 (pause 0.77) 39.6274 31 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 39.6274 I grew up in Capers, right off of Seventh Street. 41.6802 32 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 41.6802 (pause 0.73) 42.4142 33 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 42.4142 But then we also lived 43.6187 34 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 43.6187 (pause 0.28) 43.8957 35 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 43.8957 in Parkside, which is like Mayfair, Paradise, 46.7785 36 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 46.7785 (pause 0.52) 47.2998 37 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 47.2998 Kenilworth 47.9605 38 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 47.9605 (pause 0.15) 48.1139 39 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 48.1139 Avenue area. 49.0393 40 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 49.0393 (pause 0.59) 49.6254 41 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 49.6254 And we lived over here, on Fifty-Sixth and Clay 51.8142 42 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 51.8142 (pause 0.25) 52.0645 43 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 52.0645 as well. 52.6150 44 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 52.6150 (pause 0.36) 52.9762 45 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 52.9762 But pretty much 53.7836 46 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 53.7836 (pause 0.27) 54.0572 47 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 54.0572 every Northeast and Southeast 56.4195 48 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 56.4195 (pause 0.42) 56.8399 49 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 56.8399 minus Southwest, Northwest. 58.3881 50 DCB_int_01 59.0696 Mkay. 59.4789 51 DCB_int_01 59.4789 (pause 0.60) 60.0772 52 DCB_int_01 60.0772 How many years have you lived in the District, just total? 63.0001 53 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 63.4814 Oh god. Let me see, I'm twenty-five, no. 66.7279 54 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 66.7279 (pause 0.40) 67.1249 55 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 67.1249 Um, 67.8556 56 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 67.8556 (pause 0.38) 68.2393 57 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 68.2393 I would probably say about, fifteen 70.9028 58 DCB_int_01 71.3365 Fifteen? 71.8003 59 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 71.7970 total. 72.4103 60 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 72.9481 Yeah. 73.4986 61 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 73.4986 (pause 0.56) 74.0625 62 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 74.0625 It's so hard to distinguish cause when we crossed the line into PG it was like we were still in DC. 77.7035 63 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 77.7035 (pause 1.09) 78.7913 64 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 78.7913 It [literally was] across the light. 79.8023 65 DCB_int_01 78.8847 [Mm.] 79.2350 66 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 80.3828 [] 81.3371 67 DCB_int_01 80.5496 [We'll talk about that in a] minute. 81.7870 68 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 81.9777 82.1644 69 DCB_int_01 82.1721 Where have- other places you lived? 83.7035 70 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 83.9404 In the world? 84.6778 71 DCB_int_01 85.0015 Mm, just- 85.5520 72 DCB_int_01 85.5520 (pause 0.21) 85.7589 73 DCB_int_01 85.7589 yeah. 85.9657 74 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 85.9591 86.0325 75 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 86.5897 Dover, Delaware, 87.9944 76 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 87.9944 (pause 0.74) 88.7393 77 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 88.7393 I lived in Texas, 90.2207 78 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 90.2207 (pause 0.80) 91.0215 79 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 91.0215 Spain, 92.1893 80 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 92.1893 (pause 1.35) 93.5439 81 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 93.5439 um, California, 95.2133 82 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 95.2133 (pause 1.75) 96.9681 83 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 96.9681 South Carolina, 98.2748 84 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 98.2748 (pause 1.78) 100.0511 85 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 100.0511 mm, 100.4857 86 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 100.4857 (pause 0.39) 100.8794 87 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 100.8794 I- I'm thinking that's it. 102.0405 88 DCB_int_01 103.5287 And where'd you go to school? 105.0068 89 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 105.7141 105.7875 90 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 105.7875 (pause 0.17) 105.9543 91 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 105.9543 Elementary I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ that was right there in 108.4643 92 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 108.4643 (pause 0.22) 108.6878 93 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 108.6878 Parkside, Northeast. 109.6755 94 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 109.6755 (pause 0.58) 110.2527 95 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 110.2527 And then, um, junior high, in- in, uh, high school I was in Maryland, 114.2040 96 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 114.2040 (pause 0.27) 114.4710 97 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 114.4710 PG. 114.8790 98 DCB_int_01 115.5520 Where? 115.8267 99 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 116.1025 116.1826 100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 116.1826 (pause 0.13) 116.3127 101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 116.3127 Um, well, I went to three different high schools. 118.1379 102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 118.1379 (pause 0.44) 118.5825 103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 118.5825 I went to, 119.3399 104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 119.3399 (pause 0.33) 119.6735 105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 119.6735 uh, /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 120.5811 106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 120.5811 (pause 1.12) 121.7022 107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 121.7022 then I went to 122.8066 108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 122.8066 (pause 1.03) 123.8376 109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 123.8376 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 125.1797 110 DCB_int_01 126.4209 Mm. 126.8947 111 DCB_int_01 126.8947 (pause 5.27) 132.1607 112 DCB_int_01 132.1607 What do you do now? 132.9247 113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 133.9758 I work with the /RD-WORK-4/ as their VP of Human Resources. 137.5701 114 DCB_int_01 137.7803 What did you right before you came here? 139.3856 115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 139.9758 Um, worked with /RD-WORK-4/ 142.3022 116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 142.3022 (pause 0.42) 142.7226 117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 142.7226 as their chief HR, 143.8270 118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 143.8270 (pause 0.46) 144.2908 119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 144.2908 and, um, /RD-WORK-3/ as their VP 146.4863 120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 146.4863 (pause 0.34) 146.8266 121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 146.8266 of HR. 147.4639 122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 147.4639 (pause 0.62) 148.0886 123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 148.0886 Um, a few other, uh, civilian places. /Always/ HR capacity, and prior to that, in the military for ten years, in HR capacity. 155.0562 124 DCB_int_01 155.6735 Hm. 155.9949 125 DCB_int_01 155.9949 (pause 0.50) 156.4977 126 DCB_int_01 156.4977 Where were your parents born? 157.6603 127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 157.7889 157.8757 128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 157.8757 (pause 0.48) 158.3595 129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 158.3595 Uh, my mother was born 160.1687 130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 160.1687 (pause 0.38) 160.5524 131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 160.5524 in South Carolina, raised in DC. 162.3775 132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 162.3775 (pause 1.21) 163.5920 133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 163.5920 My father was born and raised in DC. 165.1269 134 DCB_int_01 167.1363 And what did your parents do? 168.6333 135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 168.9514 169.0448 136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 169.0448 (pause 0.54) 169.5887 137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 169.5887 My father, um, he was- 171.4572 138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 171.4572 (pause 0.28) 171.7375 139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 171.7375 he was a police officer for a short time, 173.2264 140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 173.2264 (pause 0.93) 174.1573 141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 174.1573 and then he was in the military reserves 176.7693 142 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 176.7693 (pause 0.30) 177.0668 143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 177.0668 for a short time. 177.8188 144 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 177.8188 (pause 0.71) 178.5257 145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 178.5257 Um, and then I'm not sure if you heard of /RD-WORK-8/ but he's owner 181.9591 146 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 181.9591 (pause 0.26) 182.2193 147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 182.2193 of- part owner of /RD-WORK-8/. 184.0244 148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 184.0244 (pause 0.45) 184.4757 149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 184.4757 Have all the contracts /?/ DC, Maryland, Virginia and one of the oldest ones around. 187.3752 150 DCB_int_01 188.6030 I do [know them.] 189.3830 151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 188.9734 [My m-] 189.2270 152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 189.5573 yup, my mom, 190.5057 153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 190.5057 (pause 0.32) 190.8294 154 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 190.8294 um, 191.4400 155 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 191.4400 (pause 0.72) 192.1640 156 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 192.1640 worked for the Coast Guard 193.1283 157 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 193.1283 (pause 0.15) 193.2784 158 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 193.2784 as civilian and military, 194.7198 159 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 194.7198 (pause 0.32) 195.0401 160 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 195.0401 pretty much since she was fourteen. 196.2179 161 DCB_int_01 196.6992 [Wow. (whispered)] 197.1163 162 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 196.8961 [Um], retired Coast Guard, 198.4775 163 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 198.9014 and, um, retired Coast Guard civilian as well. 200.8766 164 DCB_int_01 202.8794 Hm. 203.1541 165 DCB_int_01 203.1541 (pause 0.88) 204.0372 166 DCB_int_01 204.0372 And 204.9314 167 DCB_int_01 204.9314 (pause 0.60) 205.5287 168 DCB_int_01 205.5287 so, let me ask you this. 207.3740 169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 207.4105 Mm-hm. 207.7408 170 DCB_int_01 208.1420 Thinking about- 209.2031 171 DCB_int_01 209.2031 (pause 2.40) 211.5987 172 DCB_int_01 211.5987 Well, let me start- 212.1759 173 DCB_int_01 212.1759 (pause 0.13) 212.3027 174 DCB_int_01 212.3027 let me go back. 212.9967 175 DCB_int_01 212.9967 (pause 0.26) 213.2570 176 DCB_int_01 213.2570 So tell me a little bit about your neighborhood, what- 215.1330 177 DCB_int_01 215.1330 (pause 0.19) 215.3232 178 DCB_int_01 215.3232 the neighborhood that you most connect with when you were little, and it may be two or three different ones. [So tell] me kind of about growing up, maybe your house, kind of the street you lived on. 223.0615 179 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 218.9270 [Mm-hm.] 219.2670 180 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 224.1025 Wasn't a house. 224.6397 181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 224.6397 (pause 0.27) 224.9133 182 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 224.9133 Um, it was definitely apartment. 226.6183 183 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 226.6183 (pause 0.53) 227.1463 184 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 227.1463 Um, we had row house at one point on Eighteenth Place when we was in Southeast. 230.7637 185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 230.7637 (pause 0.37) 231.1369 186 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 231.1369 Um, but they were always apartment buildings, always- 233.4900 187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 233.4900 (pause 0.26) 233.7469 188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 233.7469 always the PJs, the projects. 235.3318 189 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 235.3318 (pause 0.54) 235.8690 190 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 235.8690 Um, but I had fun. 236.9801 191 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 236.9801 (pause 0.35) 237.3271 192 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 237.3271 Um, 237.8276 193 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 237.8276 (pause 0.49) 238.3214 194 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 238.3214 growing up, 238.8594 195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 238.8594 (pause 0.12) 238.9828 196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 238.9828 it's- it's weird knowing that you survived that, 241.0549 197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 241.0549 (pause 0.43) 241.4819 198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 241.4819 because being a child, 242.5029 199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 242.5029 (pause 0.49) 242.9967 200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 242.9967 you don't really notice. 243.9810 201 DCB_int_01 244.3776 [Mm-hm.] 244.7491 202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 244.6025 [It's-] it's normal, 245.6935 203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 246.2307 it seems normal. You don't really 247.7689 204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 247.7689 (pause 0.22) 247.9858 205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 247.9858 realize the conditions you're in 249.7074 206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 249.7074 (pause 0.51) 250.2221 207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 250.2221 because you're just so happy. 251.5128 208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 251.5128 (pause 0.36) 251.8704 209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 251.8704 Because my parents did a really good job, they- first of all it was very rare, 254.3061 210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 254.3061 (pause 0.39) 254.6931 211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 254.6931 my parents were together 255.6941 212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 255.6941 (pause 0.45) 256.1412 213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 256.1412 married, the entire time til my father passed away, 258.4009 214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 258.4009 (pause 0.43) 258.8313 215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 258.8313 which was twenty something years into their marriage. 261.3380 216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 261.3380 (pause 0.32) 261.6607 217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 261.6607 So, 262.0911 218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 262.0911 (pause 0.67) 262.7593 219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 262.7593 that was very rare, to see like, 264.2708 220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 264.2708 (pause 0.30) 264.5682 221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 264.5682 /actually/ my dad's, uh, black and Dominican and Italian, my mom's, 268.2146 222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 268.2146 (pause 0.13) 268.3422 223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 268.3422 um, 268.9628 224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 268.9628 (pause 0.44) 269.3999 225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 269.3999 uh, 269.8537 226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 269.8537 (pause 0.15) 270.0005 227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 270.0005 Jewish and 270.6144 228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 270.6144 (pause 0.21) 270.8280 229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 270.8280 African American. 271.4840 230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 271.4840 (pause 0.92) 272.4062 231 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 272.4062 You don't s- 272.9100 232 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 272.9100 (pause 0.26) 273.1669 233 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 273.1669 but from face value they just look African American. You don't see that 276.5453 234 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 276.5453 (pause 0.23) 276.7712 235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 276.7712 a lot 277.1273 236 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 277.1273 (pause 0.70) 277.8223 237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 277.8223 in this community, so. 279.1335 238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 279.1335 (pause 0.50) 279.6374 239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 279.6374 That was a rare part. So I had that, 280.9161 240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 280.9161 (pause 0.56) 281.4733 241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 281.4733 and then just a happy childhood, so if there was any struggles, 283.9090 242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 283.9090 (pause 0.52) 284.4262 243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 284.4262 we never knew. 285.0689 244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 285.0689 (pause 0.64) 285.7074 245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 285.7074 I'm the youngest of four. 286.8052 246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 286.8052 (pause 0.75) 287.5534 247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 287.5534 So we never knew. 288.2374 248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 288.2374 (pause 0.71) 288.9481 249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 288.9481 Um, 289.5520 250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 289.5520 (pause 0.86) 290.4095 251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 290.4095 so I had a lot of fun. I didn't realize I'm in the ghetto, I'm in the hood, I'm in the projects. 293.9471 252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 293.9471 (pause 0.55) 294.4943 253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 294.4943 People getting shot over there, crackhead over there. Cause the crackheads was funny, and they was nice, and we ain't know they was on crack. 298.6325 254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 298.6325 (pause 0.41) 299.0396 255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 299.0396 So, 299.4333 256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 299.4333 (pause 0.51) 299.9471 257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 299.9471 um, and that's how it should be 301.4352 258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 301.4352 (pause 0.42) 301.8590 259 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 301.8590 when you grow up. So that's what I remember the most. 303.4305 260 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 303.4305 (pause 0.46) 303.8918 261 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 303.8918 It's not more so my neighborhood, it's the- 305.8137 262 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 305.8137 (pause 0.40) 306.2174 263 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 306.2174 it's the reality that my parents chose to give us of our 309.6073 264 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 309.6073 (pause 0.23) 309.8384 265 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 309.8384 environment, 310.3789 266 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 310.3789 (pause 0.49) 310.8727 267 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 310.8727 which was 311.4133 268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 311.4133 (pause 0.19) 311.6034 269 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 311.6034 a good one. 311.9794 270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 311.9794 (pause 0.45) 312.4309 271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 312.4309 So, 312.8280 272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 312.8280 (pause 0.22) 313.0515 273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 313.0515 being 313.4986 274 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 313.4986 (pause 0.66) 314.1559 275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 314.1559 an adult today, 315.1736 276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 315.1736 (pause 0.33) 315.5072 277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 315.5072 when I ride in that neighborhood and I know I'm like, 317.0596 278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 317.0596 (pause 0.74) 317.8036 279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 317.8036 that's where I was? (laughing) 318.8480 280 DCB_int_01 319.0382 Mm. 319.3718 281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 319.3251 Cause I know 320.1392 282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 320.4662 today, 321.0956 283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 321.0956 (pause 0.56) 321.6507 284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 321.6507 what that was. And, um, so they taught me 324.3542 285 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 324.3542 (pause 0.20) 324.5510 286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 324.5510 how to be with my kids, if ever. 326.0358 287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 326.0358 (pause 0.46) 326.4996 288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 326.4996 Luckily they taught me enough to be like, you need to get a education so you never have to 330.2975 289 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 330.2975 (pause 0.78) 331.0816 290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 331.0816 create 331.4695 291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 331.4695 (pause 0.46) 331.9324 292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 331.9324 those types of realities for your kids. 333.4238 293 DCB_int_01 334.3748 So, 335.1497 294 DCB_int_01 335.1497 (pause 1.32) 336.4710 295 DCB_int_01 336.4710 were you- okay, so you were the youngest of four. How- [tell me about] your siblings. 339.5673 296 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 338.6097 [Mm.] 338.8466 297 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 338.8466 (pause 0.71) 339.5573 298 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 339.5573 339.6340 299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 339.9377 I have two brothers and a sister. They're all 341.9805 300 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 341.9805 (pause 0.42) 342.4042 301 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 342.4042 eight, nine, and ten years apart from me. 343.7222 302 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 343.7222 (pause 0.53) 344.2560 303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 344.2560 But they're all back to back. 345.0268 304 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 345.0268 (pause 0.66) 345.6883 305 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 345.6883 So I'm the baby. 346.4014 306 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 346.4014 (pause 0.82) 347.2197 307 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 347.2197 And, um, 347.8403 308 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 347.8403 (pause 0.72) 348.5644 309 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 348.5644 they- It's weird cause 349.7222 310 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 349.7222 (pause 0.09) 349.8123 311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 349.8123 with being like now 351.3763 312 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 351.3763 (pause 0.38) 351.7575 313 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 351.7575 people can't even tell that we're- 352.9862 314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 352.9862 (pause 0.57) 353.5567 315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 353.5567 they never could really tell other than when I'm a baby, but 355.9724 316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 355.9724 (pause 0.46) 356.4362 317 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 356.4362 they could not tell that we were so far apart. 358.1412 318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 358.1412 (pause 0.37) 358.5090 319 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 358.5090 Cause I grew up really fast being with them. 360.2507 320 DCB_int_01 360.6445 Right. 360.9845 321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 361.0715 You know, always such a older 362.4462 322 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 362.4462 (pause 0.29) 362.7365 323 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 362.7365 mentality. 363.3472 324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 363.3472 (pause 0.64) 363.9844 325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 363.9844 Um, 364.5424 326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 364.5424 (pause 0.67) 365.2097 327 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 365.2097 it was good 365.9304 328 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 365.9304 (pause 0.41) 366.3442 329 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 366.3442 growing up with my siblings. I never felt like I was the (laughing) youngest, I felt like 369.2103 330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 369.2103 (pause 0.54) 369.7508 331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 369.7508 I was just one of them. 370.5549 332 DCB_int_01 371.6435 Do you think- 372.6111 333 DCB_int_01 372.6111 (pause 0.34) 372.9514 334 DCB_int_01 372.9514 Okay so when you talk about growing up really fast, what do you think 375.1602 335 DCB_int_01 375.1602 (pause 0.21) 375.3671 336 DCB_int_01 375.3671 that- 375.6841 337 DCB_int_01 375.6841 (pause 0.44) 376.1212 338 DCB_int_01 376.1212 what do you- what do you mean by that? Like what- 377.6492 339 DCB_int_01 377.6492 (pause 0.20) 377.8537 340 DCB_int_01 377.8537 how did that cause you to be different 379.2310 341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 379.5053 [Mm-hm.] 379.8757 342 DCB_int_01 379.7288 [from] like someone who's like- So when you were [six,] 381.9057 343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 381.4906 [] 382.3881 344 DCB_int_01 382.2321 [versus] when your friends were six. 384.2207 345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 384.3809 The mentality, the conversations that I could have I couldn't have with my peer group cause they didn't understand those conversations. 389.3532 346 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 389.3532 (pause 0.48) 389.8303 347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 389.8303 So my peer groups tend to be older because I can 392.5430 348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 392.5430 (pause 0.45) 392.9934 349 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 392.9934 communicate 393.5273 350 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 393.5273 (pause 0.44) 393.9677 351 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 393.9677 with them 394.4356 352 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 394.4356 (pause 0.47) 394.9094 353 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 394.9094 whereas like, my six year old friends at that time, 397.6087 354 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 397.6087 (pause 0.35) 397.9557 355 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 397.9557 they had no idea. 398.7765 356 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 398.7765 (pause 0.43) 399.2036 357 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 399.2036 We're talking about earmarks and budgets cause that's what I sat and listened to my mom talk about cause she did budget analyst for (laughing) 404.0625 358 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 404.0625 (pause 0.51) 404.5730 359 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 404.5730 the [Coast Guard] and- and all the way through with the DOD for the President, so. 407.5367 360 DCB_int_01 404.6664 [] 405.1317 361 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 407.9638 We talking about earmarks, 408.8980 362 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 408.8980 (pause 0.28) 409.1816 363 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 409.1816 and budgets, and we're talking about 410.5763 364 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 410.5763 (pause 0.27) 410.8499 365 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 410.8499 deficits and stuff, and they're like, what is 412.3681 366 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 412.3681 (pause 0.42) 412.7927 367 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 412.7927 a defic- I'm like, you don't know what a deficit is? (laughing) You know, 414.7579 368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 414.7579 (pause 0.47) 415.2250 369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 415.2250 so those were my conversations at six years old. 417.3838 370 DCB_int_01 418.9461 Wow. (whispered) 419.3565 371 DCB_int_01 419.3565 (pause 0.68) 420.0405 372 DCB_int_01 420.0405 And your 420.4209 373 DCB_int_01 420.4209 (pause 0.17) 420.5911 374 DCB_int_01 420.5911 brothers and sisters talk this way too? 421.9157 375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 421.9824 They talk that way too. 422.7365 376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 422.7365 (pause 0.17) 422.9100 377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 422.9100 That's- these are the things- cause this is what we're- 424.6225 378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 424.6225 (pause 1.13) 425.7569 379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 425.7569 Outside is outside, but in the house, 427.3718 380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 427.3718 (pause 0.61) 427.9824 381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 427.9824 this is what we're hearing. We're hearing my mother, my dad was a entrepreneur. 430.6317 382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 430.6317 (pause 0.52) 431.1497 383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 431.1497 We're hearing things about that, so 432.3041 384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 432.3041 (pause 0.36) 432.6678 385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 432.6678 in my mind, 433.3885 386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 433.3885 (pause 0.70) 434.0925 387 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 434.0925 I'm supposed to be entrepreneur. 434.9334 388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 434.9334 (pause 0.26) 435.1903 389 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 435.1903 That's what they did, I have my own business as well. 436.4849 390 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 436.4849 (pause 0.22) 436.7092 391 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 436.7092 So in my mind, 437.5701 392 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 437.5701 (pause 0.92) 438.4910 393 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 438.4910 I'm supposed to have 439.7656 394 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 439.7656 (pause 0.30) 440.0692 395 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 440.0692 all these pieces of papers and accolades. And 441.7909 396 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 441.7909 (pause 0.41) 442.1979 397 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 442.1979 growing up it was a normal thing. Like, oh we're supposed to go to school and 444.9014 398 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 444.9014 (pause 0.39) 445.2951 399 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 445.2951 get this and 445.9884 400 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 445.9884 (pause 0.74) 446.7298 401 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 446.7298 it was just a normal 447.8525 402 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 447.8525 (pause 0.23) 448.0853 403 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 448.0853 thing. 448.4924 404 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 448.4924 (pause 0.23) 448.7226 405 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 448.7226 And I liked the fact that 449.8904 406 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 449.8904 (pause 0.50) 450.3942 407 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 450.3942 it was more of a mindset versus a 452.3261 408 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 452.3261 (pause 0.29) 452.6197 409 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 452.6197 chore or struggle. 453.6304 410 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 453.6304 (pause 0.91) 454.5416 411 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 454.5416 Yeah. 454.8327 412 DCB_int_01 455.1163 Tell me about school then. 456.2241 413 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 456.5110 What about it? 457.0382 414 DCB_int_01 457.5387 When you were in elementary school, did you- did you do well? Did you like school? Was it too [easy for] you? 463.1016 415 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 462.1974 [Mm-hm. 462.5510 416 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 463.7155 Um, I absolutely hated elementary school, but I did very well, but I was very bored. 467.7069 417 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 467.7069 (pause 0.42) 468.1240 418 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 468.1240 Because, 468.6011 419 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 468.6011 (pause 0.89) 469.4953 420 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 469.4953 I went to school and I was not interested in 472.4148 421 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 472.4148 (pause 0.41) 472.8227 422 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 472.8227 any of that stuff. 473.8103 423 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 473.8103 (pause 0.64) 474.4509 424 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 474.4509 I wanted to talk about financials and I wanted to talk about 478.0344 425 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 478.0344 (pause 0.34) 478.3722 426 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 478.3722 how to write a check. 479.2097 427 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 479.2097 (pause 0.48) 479.6902 428 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 479.6902 And I wanted to talk about things- I wanted to talk about 482.1793 429 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 482.1793 (pause 0.26) 482.4362 430 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 482.4362 technology and stuff like that. 483.9402 431 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 483.9402 (pause 1.01) 484.9461 432 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 484.9461 And the- 485.5134 433 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 485.5134 (pause 0.72) 486.2341 434 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 486.2341 the teachers weren't even talking about that. 487.7322 435 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 487.7322 (pause 0.58) 488.3094 436 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 488.3094 I didn't care about 489.4294 437 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 489.4294 (pause 0.53) 489.9585 438 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 489.9585 elementary math, I didn't care about 491.8871 439 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 491.8871 (pause 0.57) 492.4609 440 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 492.4609 that history, I didn't care. 493.7522 441 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 493.7522 (pause 0.32) 494.0725 442 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 494.0725 I just did it because I knew that's what I needed to do to get my piece of paper. 497.1430 443 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 497.1430 (pause 0.40) 497.5434 444 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 497.5434 And I wanted my piece of paper. That's part of my plan, so. 500.0625 445 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 500.0625 (pause 0.55) 500.6097 446 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 500.6097 That was my 501.1769 447 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 501.1769 (pause 0.33) 501.5039 448 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 501.5039 like, juvenile 502.6425 449 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 502.6425 (pause 0.65) 503.2898 450 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 503.2898 mentality. 504.0472 451 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 504.0472 (pause 0.42) 504.4643 452 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 504.4643 At the same time, a mature mentality. 506.0470 453 DCB_int_01 508.9161 So- okay, so this is- so you're growing up in the eighties, right? So technology is not- 512.8800 454 DCB_int_01 512.8800 (pause 0.12) 513.0034 455 DCB_int_01 513.0034 when you talk about technology, 514.1679 456 DCB_int_01 514.1679 (pause 0.24) 514.4090 457 DCB_int_01 514.4090 what was your reality of technology when you were young? 516.5944 458 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 516.5944 Well, Microsoft was coming out, you know, the t- the- the big square TV looking computers, that was the thing. 521.8704 459 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 522.4643 Um, 522.8780 460 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 522.8780 (pause 0.32) 523.2017 461 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 523.2017 you had cell phones that were coming out, they look like 525.5973 462 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 525.5973 (pause 0.25) 525.8442 463 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 525.8442 TVs on your hip, and pagers and stuff like that. So, 528.5010 464 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 528.5010 (pause 0.82) 529.3184 465 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 529.3184 that was technology to me, I wanted to know how is it that these beepers connect, and what are the frequencies and wavelengths in the 535.2017 466 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 535.2017 (pause 0.48) 535.6788 467 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 535.6788 air that's making that happen and stuff like that. 538.0511 468 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 538.0511 (pause 0.25) 538.3055 469 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 538.3055 So that was 538.8327 470 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 538.8327 (pause 0.46) 539.2965 471 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 539.2965 technology that kids my age weren't 541.1516 472 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 541.1516 (pause 0.75) 541.9057 473 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 541.9057 really paying attention to. You know, I was learning to type 543.8184 474 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 543.8184 (pause 0.42) 544.2388 475 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 544.2388 at eight years old. 545.0229 476 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 545.0229 (pause 0.31) 545.3365 477 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 545.3365 They weren't paying attention to that, and to me that was a /?/. 547.5987 478 DCB_int_01 549.1002 So were your friends- Okay thinking about your like- 551.3999 479 DCB_int_01 551.3999 (pause 0.52) 551.9171 480 DCB_int_01 551.9171 Did you have a lot of kids in your neighborhood? 553.1049 481 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 553.1550 Mm-hm. 553.4319 482 DCB_int_01 554.0358 Did y'all play together? 554.8299 483 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 555.2770 We did whenever, um, I was done 557.5768 484 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 557.5768 (pause 0.40) 557.9771 485 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 557.9771 playing with the friends I chose to be with. 559.4886 486 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 559.4886 (pause 0.29) 559.7789 487 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 559.7789 I'd be like, well, I ain't got nobody else /play/ play with y'all. 561.2070 488 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 561.2070 (pause 0.56) 561.7683 489 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 561.7683 Um, so. 562.4557 490 DCB_int_01 562.6392 562.7927 491 DCB_int_01 562.7927 (pause 0.47) 563.2665 492 DCB_int_01 563.2665 Uh, 563.5234 493 DCB_int_01 563.5234 (pause 0.45) 563.9738 494 DCB_int_01 563.9738 [/yeah/] 564.1506 495 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 563.9805 [So] yeah it was [like that.] 564.9911 496 DCB_int_01 564.5677 [/this/ ain't] nobody [else.] 565.6298 497 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 565.5020 [I mean], I was really grateful to have 567.3438 498 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 567.8484 parents that really nurtured 569.1830 499 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 569.1830 (pause 0.38) 569.5667 500 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 569.5667 what I wanted to do. Because 570.7412 501 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 570.7412 (pause 0.55) 571.2918 502 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 571.2918 they had to sacrifice, they had to like, drive far to take me to be around the type of kids that 575.6502 503 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 575.6502 (pause 0.59) 576.2374 504 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 576.2374 could 576.5010 505 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 576.5010 (pause 0.37) 576.8680 506 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 576.8680 keep my interest. 577.6855 507 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 577.6855 (pause 0.34) 578.0291 508 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 578.0291 Because, see, 578.6831 509 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 578.6831 (pause 0.81) 579.4981 510 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 579.4981 kids in more affluent 580.6834 511 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 580.6834 (pause 0.27) 580.9528 512 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 580.9528 neighborhoods, 581.5801 513 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 581.5801 (pause 0.54) 582.1206 514 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 582.1206 that was a normal thing, 583.3140 515 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 583.3140 (pause 0.41) 583.7222 516 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 583.7222 a normal conversation, so 585.0034 517 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 585.0034 (pause 0.63) 585.6307 518 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 585.6307 I- they would take me to go 587.0462 519 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 587.0462 (pause 0.38) 587.4233 520 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 587.4233 play with those kids while they do tea time with their moms and 589.9949 521 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 589.9949 (pause 0.50) 590.4963 522 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 590.4963 whatever. 590.9300 523 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 590.9300 (pause 0.59) 591.5173 524 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 591.5173 I'm playing with these kids who 593.0629 525 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 593.0629 (pause 0.41) 593.4767 526 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 593.4767 aren't. No, 594.1440 527 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 594.1440 (pause 0.58) 594.7245 528 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 594.7245 I would say there's pros and cons to it. Some would say, 596.6998 529 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 596.6998 (pause 0.50) 597.1969 530 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 597.1969 oh, did you miss your childhood? I feel like I really s- I really did have 600.0305 531 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 600.0305 (pause 0.29) 600.3175 532 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 600.3175 a childhood. I didn't have to worry about 602.2093 533 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 602.2093 (pause 0.49) 602.6965 534 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 602.6965 bills and where we gonna get food, that wasn't my issue. 605.4133 535 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 605.4133 (pause 0.50) 605.9137 536 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 605.9137 I chose to make my childhood 608.0058 537 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 608.0058 (pause 0.79) 608.7966 538 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 608.7966 more intellectual. 609.8643 539 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 609.8643 (pause 0.55) 610.4128 540 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 610.4128 Versus playing 611.2002 541 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 611.2002 (pause 0.45) 611.6540 542 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 611.6540 hide and seek unless we was gonna be seeking, 613.6969 543 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 613.6969 (pause 0.51) 614.2031 544 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 614.2031 I don't know, the stock market or something. 615.2708 545 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 615.2708 (pause 0.43) 615.7012 546 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 615.7012 Like I (laughing) wasn't really 616.8386 547 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 616.8386 (pause 0.30) 617.1401 548 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 617.1401 interested in that. 617.7207 549 DCB_int_01 619.4490 So- okay, so you were in this area, you were in Northeast. So your [parents-] so did you drive to like, Northwest or did you drive [to like], Potomac? 626.0477 550 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 622.3827 [Mm-hm.] 622.7464 551 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 622.7464 (pause 2.60) 625.3489 552 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 625.3489 [Mm,] 625.6259 553 DCB_int_01 626.2732 Like where'd your [parents] take you to go play with your friends? 628.6989 554 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 626.6969 [yeah.] 626.9823 555 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 628.7264 At that time it wasn't really Northwest. Northwest wasn't really that affluent 631.2555 556 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 631.2555 (pause 0.44) 631.6993 557 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 631.6993 back then. Northwest just started becoming affluent in I would say the past fifteen years or so. 635.8008 558 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 635.8008 (pause 0.55) 636.3480 559 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 636.3480 Um, 636.8318 560 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 636.8318 (pause 0.26) 637.0954 561 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 637.0954 it was more like, Potomac, 638.6502 562 DCB_int_01 638.7470 [Mm-hm.] 639.1807 563 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 639.0206 [Cheverly], which over that [Northwest] line. 640.5487 564 DCB_int_01 639.9823 [Mm-hm.] 640.3183 565 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 641.0300 Georgetown, parts of Georgetown. 642.3146 566 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 642.3146 (pause 0.28) 642.5915 567 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 642.5915 Anything close to the hill, 643.5491 568 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 643.5491 (pause 0.30) 643.8494 569 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 643.8494 cause she worked in a lot of /??/ politician, political stuff, so, 646.5454 570 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 646.5454 (pause 0.66) 647.2035 571 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 647.2035 stuff like that. Um, 648.5189 572 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 648.5189 (pause 0.35) 648.8718 573 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 648.8718 648.9452 574 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 648.9452 (pause 0.22) 649.1688 575 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 649.1688 they would take me to those things, or, 650.7236 576 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 650.7236 (pause 0.48) 651.2074 577 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 651.2074 um, to some of those 652.4686 578 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 652.4686 (pause 0.16) 652.6296 579 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 652.6296 types of exhibits 653.6406 580 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 653.6406 (pause 0.36) 653.9976 581 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 653.9976 or whatever. 654.5550 582 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 654.5550 (pause 0.57) 655.1254 583 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 655.1254 Um, I liked to dream big 656.5835 584 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 656.5835 (pause 0.14) 656.7203 585 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 656.7203 growing up. So they would take me places that I could just sit 659.0267 586 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 659.0267 (pause 0.25) 659.2803 587 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 659.2803 and they would let me like, 659.9943 588 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 659.9943 (pause 0.70) 660.6983 589 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 660.6983 that's gonna be my house, 661.6726 590 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 661.6726 (pause 0.39) 662.0663 591 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 662.0663 that's gonna be my whatever (laughing). 663.1240 592 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 663.1240 (pause 0.54) 663.6612 593 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 663.6612 I always liked to just 664.7656 594 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 664.7656 (pause 0.27) 665.0334 595 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 665.0334 dream big. And they- they nurtured that 666.4848 596 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 666.4848 (pause 0.35) 666.8351 597 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 666.8351 growing up, so. 667.5558 598 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 667.5558 (pause 0.33) 667.8861 599 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 667.8861 667.9462 600 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 667.9462 (pause 0.46) 668.4033 601 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 668.4033 I have no complaints at all. And so I think it made it easier 671.4738 602 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 671.4738 (pause 0.41) 671.8809 603 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 671.8809 for me when I- when I grew up 673.1955 604 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 673.1955 (pause 0.54) 673.7360 605 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 673.7360 and I wanted to get out and do things cause I knew 675.8147 606 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 675.8147 (pause 0.45) 676.2666 607 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 676.2666 there was a whole nother world. 677.3136 608 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 677.3136 (pause 0.42) 677.7340 609 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 677.7340 And but now I actually wanted to see it. 679.0887 610 DCB_int_01 681.7713 Okay so at- did you ever like school then? 684.2412 611 DCB_int_01 684.2412 (pause 0.23) 684.4748 612 DCB_int_01 684.4748 Did you ever 684.9986 613 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 685.0320 I [didn't start] liking school til high school. 686.2440 614 DCB_int_01 685.1988 [en-] 685.3723 615 DCB_int_01 686.5868 So tell me about high [school.] 687.5801 616 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 687.2775 [Yeah.] 687.5144 617 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 688.1083 Oh high school was very fun. I was pretty much in everything, I was on- 691.1254 618 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 691.1254 (pause 0.37) 691.4924 619 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 691.4924 well, I started debate team in eighth grade. 692.7770 620 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 692.7770 (pause 0.57) 693.3509 621 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 693.3509 I was on debate team, 694.3385 622 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 694.3385 (pause 0.28) 694.6196 623 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 694.6196 694.6897 624 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 694.6897 (pause 0.21) 694.8999 625 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 694.8999 I was in ROTC 695.9042 626 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 695.9042 (pause 0.18) 696.0844 627 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 696.0844 the whole time. 696.7297 628 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 696.7297 (pause 0.66) 697.3890 629 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 697.3890 Um, drama 698.6335 630 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 698.6335 (pause 0.39) 699.0206 631 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 699.0206 club 699.4926 632 DCB_int_01 699.6479 I can [see that.] 700.3218 633 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 699.9815 [as well.] 700.5120 634 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 701.2069 I know. No. [] 702.7384 635 DCB_int_01 702.5548 [] 703.5124 636 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 703.4958 Drama club, um, 705.1507 637 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 705.3809 media team, 706.3285 638 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 706.3285 (pause 0.59) 706.9199 639 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 706.9199 707.0033 640 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 707.0033 (pause 0.18) 707.1835 641 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 707.1835 and, um, 708.3580 642 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 708.3580 (pause 0.79) 709.1454 643 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 709.1454 just regular classes. 710.2498 644 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 710.2498 (pause 0.27) 710.5167 645 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 710.5167 I didn't do any AP classes and people were so shocked. 713.2035 646 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 713.2035 (pause 0.43) 713.6339 647 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 713.6339 And I felt like, 714.4281 648 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 714.4281 (pause 0.60) 715.0286 649 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 715.0286 I don't wanna do AP because, 716.7803 650 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 716.7803 (pause 0.82) 717.6045 651 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 717.6045 you know, you go through the whole class and you can make straight A's, but that one test you take at the end of the year, 722.1531 652 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 722.1531 (pause 0.44) 722.5902 653 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 722.5902 if you don't pass it, you fail the class. 723.7675 654 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 723.7675 (pause 0.40) 724.1692 655 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 724.1692 And 724.4928 656 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 724.4928 (pause 0.41) 724.9066 657 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 724.9066 I didn't really think, oh I won't pass it, but I'm like, 726.8184 658 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 726.8184 (pause 0.38) 727.1955 659 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 727.1955 what if I get sick, 728.0963 660 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 728.0963 (pause 0.32) 728.4133 661 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 728.4133 or I don't do- I was- I always had these what ifs. /I said no,/ 730.6883 662 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 730.6883 (pause 0.44) 731.1234 663 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 731.1234 I can- I can do these so called regular classes 734.3057 664 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 734.3057 (pause 0.27) 734.5806 665 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 734.5806 and I can do additional stuff on my own, I don't need the grade for that. 737.0113 666 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 737.0113 (pause 1.09) 738.1040 667 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 738.1040 Yeah. 738.4377 668 DCB_int_01 738.9323 So what- okay, so you started at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. So how'd [you get- Okay], from /RD-SCHOOL-3/- 742.2823 669 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 741.0844 [Mm-hm.] 741.5071 670 DCB_int_01 742.7327 Was /RD-SCHOOL-3/ because your parents wanted you to be exposed, or did y'all move over to that area? Why'd you start there and then end up /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 748.5225 671 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 747.2546 747.3046 672 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 748.5292 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ high school in [PG County?] 750.1307 673 DCB_int_01 749.5602 [Mm-hm.] 749.8705 674 DCB_int_01 751.3928 751.4729 675 DCB_int_01 751.4729 (pause 0.26) 751.7298 676 DCB_int_01 751.7298 Oh, p- ah, I was [thinking-] 753.6149 677 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 753.5048 [Yeah] [no.] 754.0216 678 DCB_int_01 753.8452 [Mm.] 754.3105 679 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 754.1930 [There's] no [exposure there.] 755.0418 680 DCB_int_01 754.8361 [Mm.] 755.1264 681 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 755.4167 Um, 755.7604 682 DCB_int_01 755.7549 755.8050 683 DCB_int_01 755.8951 [I was wrong.] 756.4815 684 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 755.9009 [Right over the Southeast line.] 757.1455 685 DCB_int_01 756.8185 [Mm.] Mm-hm.] 757.4825 686 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 757.6860 Wheeler Road. 758.0953 687 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 758.0953 (pause 0.46) 758.5535 688 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 758.5535 Yeah, so. [] 759.6512 689 DCB_int_01 759.4852 [Wrong-] 759.8000 690 DCB_int_01 759.9690 Wrong /RD-SCHOOL-3/, wrong [/RD-SCHOOL-3/.] 761.4605 691 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 761.0167 [Right, yeah no.] 761.7901 692 DCB_int_01 761.5739 [My] bad. 762.1619 693 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 762.2179 Prince George's [County's.] 763.3423 694 DCB_int_01 763.0721 [Mm-hm.] 763.5425 695 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 763.9763 Mm-hm. 765.1140 696 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 765.1140 (pause 0.40) 765.5111 697 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 765.5111 [Uh, no we-] we just happened to move over the line, 768.2813 698 DCB_int_01 765.7789 [Wrong county.] 766.4881 699 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 768.4414 Um, right off of- 769.5392 700 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 769.5392 (pause 0.37) 769.9095 701 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 769.9095 in Oxon Hill, right off of Wheeler Road, so 771.7949 702 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 771.7949 (pause 0.61) 772.4028 703 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 772.4028 right there in p- the school 773.9910 704 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 773.9910 (pause 0.41) 774.3981 705 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 774.3981 was right there. 775.1354 706 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 775.1354 (pause 0.50) 775.6326 707 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 775.6326 And then we moved again. That was a house 777.5219 708 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 777.5219 (pause 0.36) 777.8856 709 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 777.8856 that we- we was renting. 778.9233 710 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 778.9233 (pause 0.50) 779.4238 711 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 779.4238 Um, then we moved again 780.9786 712 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 780.9786 (pause 0.25) 781.2322 713 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 781.2322 781.2989 714 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 781.2989 (pause 0.17) 781.4658 715 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 781.4658 to, um, Suitland. 782.9172 716 DCB_int_01 783.3918 [Mm-hm.] 783.7021 717 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 783.5219 [Off] of, um, 784.7873 718 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 785.7941 Silver Hill R- yeah, Silver Hill Road. 787.5859 719 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 787.5859 (pause 0.43) 788.0130 720 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 788.0130 Cause that's Suitland that way. So Silver Hill Road 789.6913 721 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 789.6913 (pause 0.30) 789.9924 722 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 789.9924 and so- so /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was the school for that. 792.1245 723 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 792.1245 (pause 0.47) 792.5916 724 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 792.5916 Um, 793.0520 725 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 793.0520 (pause 0.76) 793.8161 726 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 793.8161 and then, 794.6636 727 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 794.6636 (pause 0.43) 795.0907 728 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 795.0907 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 796.0294 729 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 796.0294 (pause 0.84) 796.8732 730 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 796.8732 she- So the thing is, in high school, 798.8251 731 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 798.8251 (pause 0.36) 799.1888 732 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 799.1888 799.2622 733 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 799.2622 (pause 0.09) 799.3523 734 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 799.3523 I was extremely smart, always had a four point O or better, 802.3060 735 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 802.3060 (pause 0.88) 803.1869 736 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 803.1869 but I was always fighting, 804.3881 737 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 804.3881 (pause 0.63) 805.0187 738 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 805.0187 all the times. I was always- 806.4834 739 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 806.4834 (pause 0.16) 806.6469 740 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 806.6469 Boys, 807.1774 741 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 807.1774 (pause 0.12) 807.3009 742 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 807.3009 mostly. 807.7796 743 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 807.7796 (pause 0.67) 808.4528 744 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 808.4528 Always fighting. (laughing) 809.4939 745 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 809.4939 (pause 0.59) 810.0844 746 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 810.0844 So- and this is when I first learned that 812.2365 747 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 812.2365 (pause 0.30) 812.5401 748 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 812.5401 educational system- 813.7622 749 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 813.7622 (pause 0.64) 814.3995 750 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 814.3995 the public educational system, 815.9576 751 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 815.9576 (pause 0.42) 816.3814 752 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 816.3814 um, really don't care about 817.6159 753 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 817.6159 (pause 0.66) 818.2799 754 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 818.2799 kids 818.9205 755 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 818.9205 (pause 0.45) 819.3685 756 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 819.3685 or what you're learning and 820.7298 757 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 820.7298 (pause 0.13) 820.8566 758 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 820.8566 820.9133 759 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 820.9133 (pause 0.10) 821.0167 760 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 821.0167 your education, they care about their numbers. 822.8418 761 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 822.8418 (pause 0.56) 823.4057 762 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 823.4057 And I learned that because it would take until 825.8457 763 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 825.8457 (pause 0.45) 826.2960 764 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 826.2960 the very end of the year 827.6280 765 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 827.6280 (pause 0.64) 828.2713 766 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 828.2713 when we could freeze the grades before they would say, okay she can't come back to school. (laughing) 832.3561 767 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 832.3561 (pause 0.62) 832.9767 768 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 832.9767 Cause they wanna keep those numbers up cause I had good grades. 835.3490 769 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 835.3490 (pause 0.71) 836.0630 770 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 836.0630 But my counterparts or my ch- my other- my peers 838.9533 771 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 838.9533 (pause 0.69) 839.6473 772 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 839.6473 who didn't have good grades who may have been in the same level of trouble or better, 843.6446 773 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 843.6446 (pause 0.34) 843.9824 774 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 843.9824 oh they're gone the first 845.1402 775 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 845.1402 (pause 0.62) 845.7608 776 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 845.7608 little thing they do. 846.6650 777 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 846.6650 (pause 0.55) 847.2122 778 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 847.2122 They were suspended, in school suspension, they're 849.1307 779 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 849.1307 (pause 0.50) 849.6345 780 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 849.6345 expelled even. 850.5463 781 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 850.5463 (pause 0.36) 850.9066 782 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 850.9066 So, one particular incident in /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 853.4291 783 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 853.4291 (pause 0.23) 853.6560 784 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 853.6560 um, 854.1064 785 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 854.1064 (pause 0.48) 854.5869 786 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 854.5869 I left /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 855.6479 787 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 855.6479 (pause 0.38) 856.0291 788 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 856.0291 cause we moved. 856.7698 789 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 856.7698 (pause 0.59) 857.3604 790 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 857.3604 Uh, but in /RD-SCHOOL-2/ where I got in the most trouble. 859.3338 791 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 859.3338 (pause 0.40) 859.7360 792 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 859.7360 And, 860.2532 793 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 860.2532 (pause 0.36) 860.6169 794 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 860.6169 end of the year, same thing. I was used to it, /so many of/ the same thing. 863.0134 795 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 863.0134 (pause 0.48) 863.4972 796 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 863.4972 But I was leaving anyway. 864.5382 797 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 864.5382 (pause 0.64) 865.1755 798 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 865.1755 End of the year, 865.8888 799 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 865.8888 (pause 0.40) 866.2866 800 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 866.2866 there was me, my cousin who's a lawyer now (laughing) who went to Howard. [] 869.1602 801 DCB_int_01 869.0801 [] 869.7614 802 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 869.7441 Um, 870.0844 803 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 870.2746 it's funny. 870.7417 804 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 870.7417 (pause 0.41) 871.1555 805 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 871.1555 But, 871.4958 806 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 871.4958 (pause 0.29) 871.7894 807 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 871.7894 um, 872.1898 808 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 872.1898 (pause 0.56) 872.7504 809 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 872.7504 and my other cousin, who's not a lawyer, 874.5563 810 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 874.5563 (pause 0.41) 874.9700 811 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 874.9700 and, 875.3837 812 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 875.3837 (pause 0.67) 876.0511 813 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 876.0511 um, 876.5382 814 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 876.5382 (pause 0.23) 876.7684 815 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 876.7684 couple of friends of ours and we all 878.0664 816 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 878.0664 (pause 0.42) 878.4834 817 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 878.4834 in this together, we're all in the office and 880.3060 818 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 880.3060 (pause 0.36) 880.6697 819 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 880.6697 we're getting suspended. 881.5139 820 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 881.5139 (pause 0.63) 882.1478 821 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 882.1478 And so 883.0854 822 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 883.0854 (pause 0.61) 883.6924 823 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 883.6924 they freeze my grades, they freeze my cousin's grades who's a lawyer. She had pretty good grades. 887.3737 824 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 887.3737 (pause 0.59) 887.9610 825 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 887.9610 But the other three, 889.0821 826 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 889.0821 (pause 0.36) 889.4391 827 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 889.4391 they didn't freeze their grades and they got kicked out. 891.1240 828 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 891.1240 (pause 1.10) 892.2260 829 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 892.2260 And they had to take like these summer classes and stuff. And I'm like, 894.3440 830 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 894.3440 (pause 0.73) 895.0754 831 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 895.0754 895.1421 832 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 895.1421 (pause 0.77) 895.9129 833 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 895.9129 all five of us are involved in this thing but I'm the only one that actually physically assaulted somebody. And 900.5082 834 DCB_int_01 900.8685 [Mm.] 901.1939 835 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 900.9720 [I don't] get- and so I- This was in tenth grade. 903.2008 836 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 903.4852 And so I'm like, 904.1052 837 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 904.1052 (pause 0.17) 904.2760 838 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 904.2760 904.3327 839 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 904.3327 (pause 0.62) 904.9567 840 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 904.9567 you know, 905.5539 841 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 905.5539 (pause 0.46) 906.0144 842 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 906.0144 I'm really starting to learn that these school systems, 908.6503 843 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 908.6503 (pause 0.49) 909.1441 844 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 909.1441 um, at that time, I can't speak for now, it's probably worse. 911.4838 845 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 911.4838 (pause 0.40) 911.8809 846 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 911.8809 But 912.1011 847 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 912.1011 (pause 0.42) 912.5182 848 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 912.5182 they don't really care 913.6560 849 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 913.6560 (pause 0.37) 914.0230 850 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 914.0230 about 914.4501 851 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 914.4501 (pause 0.74) 915.1874 852 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 915.1874 the education, it's about the numbers. 916.6754 853 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 916.6754 (pause 0.66) 917.3370 854 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 917.3370 Okay? 917.7508 855 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 917.7508 (pause 0.45) 918.1979 856 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 918.1979 It's about how much more programs and attention and money they can get into their programs because 922.8566 857 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 922.8566 (pause 0.46) 923.3170 858 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 923.3170 we are producing these types of 925.4086 859 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 925.4086 (pause 0.48) 925.8862 860 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 925.8862 925.9729 861 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 925.9729 (pause 0.51) 926.4834 862 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 926.4834 academ- academically, 927.8122 863 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 927.8122 (pause 0.56) 928.3761 864 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 928.3761 um, 928.8399 865 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 928.8399 (pause 0.27) 929.1101 866 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 929.1101 excelled 929.9576 867 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 929.9576 (pause 0.34) 930.2980 868 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 930.2980 children, 930.6860 869 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 930.6860 (pause 0.42) 931.1021 870 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 931.1021 right? 931.3554 871 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 931.3554 (pause 1.17) 932.5301 872 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 932.5301 So I learned that. 933.3581 873 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 933.3581 (pause 0.32) 933.6821 874 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 933.6821 Um, 934.1859 875 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 934.1859 (pause 0.14) 934.3260 876 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 934.3260 so /RD-SCHOOL-2/ kicked me out, of course 935.7141 877 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 935.7141 (pause 0.92) 936.6383 878 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 936.6383 at the end of the year when there was like, a week left of school. [] 939.4652 879 DCB_int_01 939.1416 [Right.] 939.5119 880 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 939.8723 And I'm done, you know, I- I done gave you good grades. 942.2045 881 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 942.2045 (pause 0.18) 942.3881 882 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 942.3881 So I go to p- /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 943.8728 883 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 943.8728 (pause 0.38) 944.2532 884 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 944.2532 and we still lived- And at this point we bought a house, 946.7765 885 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 946.7765 (pause 0.42) 947.2002 886 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 947.2002 our very first home, we purchased a home, so we rich now. 950.0753 887 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 950.0753 (pause 0.35) 950.4300 888 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 950.4300 Um, 951.4886 889 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 951.4886 (pause 0.47) 951.9557 890 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 951.9557 right across from Andrews 953.4305 891 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 953.4305 (pause 0.34) 953.7675 892 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 953.7675 Air Force [Base.] 954.5682 893 DCB_int_01 954.2613 [Mm-hm.] 954.7351 894 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 955.0087 Really nice neighborhood at the time. I would say right now it's- mm, 957.6721 895 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 957.6721 (pause 0.20) 957.8723 896 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 957.8723 it's teetering. 958.4328 897 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 958.4328 (pause 0.51) 958.9400 898 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 958.9400 Still close to the line, 959.9243 899 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 959.9243 (pause 0.33) 960.2513 900 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 960.2513 but 960.5272 901 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 960.5272 (pause 0.36) 960.8852 902 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 960.8852 very nice area. 961.9929 903 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 961.9929 (pause 0.49) 962.4834 904 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 962.4834 Brand new house built from the ground up, so it was a really big deal for us. Up until that point we've always lived- 966.8485 905 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 966.8485 (pause 0.52) 967.3723 906 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 967.3723 you know we went from PJs to 969.1754 907 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 969.1754 (pause 0.34) 969.5119 908 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 969.5119 renting homes 970.5796 909 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 970.5796 (pause 0.41) 970.9900 910 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 970.9900 to now owning 971.8180 911 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 971.8180 (pause 0.40) 972.2179 912 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 972.2179 a home. But it took- 972.9419 913 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 972.9419 (pause 0.46) 973.4024 914 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 973.4024 by this time I am sixteen. 975.0464 915 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 975.0464 (pause 0.98) 976.0224 916 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 976.0224 So sixteen years. 976.7465 917 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 976.7465 (pause 0.18) 976.9233 918 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 976.9233 /So that's why [I say/] about fifteen. So, 978.5787 919 DCB_int_01 977.2636 [Mm.] 977.4505 920 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 979.0921 um, 979.6259 921 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 979.6259 (pause 0.50) 980.1264 922 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 980.1264 980.1965 923 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 980.1965 (pause 0.64) 980.8371 924 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 980.8371 we go- I go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ at this time. 982.5496 925 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 982.5496 (pause 0.43) 982.9800 926 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 982.9800 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was not my school. 984.0177 927 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 984.0177 (pause 0.68) 984.7017 928 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 984.7017 Um, 985.2289 929 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 985.2289 (pause 0.37) 985.5992 930 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 985.5992 Suitland 986.2032 931 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 986.2032 (pause 0.23) 986.4300 932 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 986.4300 was the school. 987.0006 933 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 987.0006 (pause 0.50) 987.5053 934 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 987.5053 My mom was like, you're not 988.7064 935 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 988.7064 (pause 0.54) 989.2503 936 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 989.2503 going, I need you- 990.0707 937 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 990.0707 (pause 0.29) 990.3580 938 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 990.3580 At this time /RD-SCHOOL-3/ is in Clinton, 991.8995 939 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 991.8995 (pause 0.56) 992.4567 940 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 992.4567 Maryland. And Clinton, Maryland at that time was like, 994.4762 941 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 994.4762 (pause 0.18) 994.6530 942 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 994.6530 very suburban. 995.6473 943 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 995.6473 (pause 0.37) 996.0144 944 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 996.0144 It was basically 997.2047 945 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 997.2047 (pause 0.53) 997.7360 946 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 997.7360 Waldorf, you know, it was really really suburban. 999.7280 947 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 999.7280 (pause 0.74) 1000.4662 948 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1000.4662 Super green, super, um, vanilla, you know, 1003.3982 949 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1003.3982 (pause 0.33) 1003.7294 950 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1003.7294 really nice. 1004.3133 951 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1004.3133 (pause 0.53) 1004.8471 952 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1004.8471 And that's where she wanted me. 1006.1058 953 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1006.1058 (pause 0.19) 1006.2994 954 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1006.2994 1006.3761 955 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1006.3761 (pause 0.28) 1006.6530 956 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1006.6530 The education was there. 1007.8810 957 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1007.8810 (pause 1.27) 1009.1488 958 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1009.1488 Academically I fit the education. So this was another example of how they don't care. We go there, 1013.6573 959 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1013.6573 (pause 0.67) 1014.3280 960 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1014.3280 the principal- Um, we go there the day school starts. 1017.0648 961 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1017.0648 (pause 0.21) 1017.2750 962 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1017.2750 My mom goes to register me, 1018.4628 963 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1018.4628 (pause 0.55) 1019.0134 964 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1019.0134 the principal is- looks at my record and he sees the grades and he's like, oh you'll be great. 1022.8371 965 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1022.8371 (pause 0.14) 1022.9814 966 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1022.9814 I had a four point O, four point five 1024.4395 967 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1024.4395 (pause 0.21) 1024.6530 968 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1024.6530 really good grades the whole time. 1025.8308 969 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1025.8308 (pause 0.76) 1026.5949 970 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1026.5949 And so, 1026.9686 971 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1026.9686 (pause 0.38) 1027.3457 972 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1027.3457 on paper I'm like, 1028.3666 973 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1028.3666 (pause 0.38) 1028.7470 974 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1028.7470 give her a scholarship, you know, (laughing) like, give her whatever. 1030.8666 975 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1030.8666 (pause 0.55) 1031.4171 976 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1031.4171 And he was just so excited and 1033.0687 977 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1033.0687 (pause 0.20) 1033.2689 978 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1033.2689 he didn't even pay attention to the fact that I wasn't zoned 1035.2350 979 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1035.2350 (pause 0.45) 1035.6888 980 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1035.6888 for that school. 1036.2226 981 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1036.2226 (pause 0.46) 1036.6797 982 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1036.6797 I was zoned for Suitland. 1037.7508 983 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1037.7508 (pause 0.52) 1038.2746 984 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1038.2746 So, 1038.8919 985 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1038.8919 (pause 0.19) 1039.0854 986 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1039.0854 when she finally said, okay well- 1040.4100 987 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1040.4100 (pause 0.69) 1041.1049 988 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1041.1049 well, she's supposed to be in Suitland, 1042.4228 989 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1042.4228 (pause 0.40) 1042.8232 990 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1042.8232 but we- I really want her to come here, 1044.1178 991 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1044.1178 (pause 0.31) 1044.4248 992 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1044.4248 oh I'll make it happen. 1045.4858 993 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1045.4858 (pause 0.50) 1045.9829 994 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1045.9829 Well he looked over /???/ I think the form is called 1048.3995 995 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1048.3995 (pause 0.36) 1048.7631 996 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1048.7631 PS seventy-fours, 1049.8575 997 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1049.8575 (pause 0.51) 1050.3647 998 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1050.3647 I think, I can't remember. It's like your file when you bad or whatever so. (laughing) 1053.4911 999 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1053.4911 (pause 0.53) 1054.0224 1000 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1054.0224 He opens the file, 1055.6211 1001 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1055.6211 (pause 0.39) 1056.0144 1002 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1056.0144 and there's like a stack. 1057.0354 1003 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1057.0354 (pause 0.28) 1057.3123 1004 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1057.3123 He's like- 1057.6626 1005 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1057.6626 (pause 0.43) 1058.0964 1006 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1058.0964 uh, his whole mentality changed. 1060.0591 1007 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1060.0591 (pause 0.53) 1060.5930 1008 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1060.5930 He- th- the- this stack- this really doesn't match this name or this person, like it's just- 1065.0006 1009 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1065.0006 (pause 0.67) 1065.6721 1010 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1065.6721 How do you have time to get in this much trouble (laughing) like, when do you do your work? (laughing) 1069.2355 1011 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1069.2355 (pause 0.71) 1069.9429 1012 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1069.9429 In suspension, so (laughing) 1070.7670 1013 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1070.7670 (pause 0.35) 1071.1140 1014 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1071.1140 you (laughing) do your work, so. 1072.3027 1015 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1072.3027 (pause 0.58) 1072.8833 1016 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1072.8833 Um, 1073.3737 1017 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1073.3737 (pause 0.26) 1073.6340 1018 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1073.6340 at that point he didn't want me to come there and my mom was like, oh she's coming here. So she walked right over to 1078.4962 1019 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1078.4962 (pause 0.42) 1078.9200 1020 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1078.9200 school board, 1079.6874 1021 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1079.6874 (pause 0.18) 1079.8642 1022 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1079.8642 um, which is- I think is Upper Marlboro or whatever. 1081.7202 1023 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1081.7202 (pause 0.35) 1082.0697 1024 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1082.0697 And, um, 1082.7871 1025 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1082.7871 (pause 0.17) 1082.9606 1026 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1082.9606 she totally- 1083.5845 1027 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1083.5845 (pause 0.40) 1083.9891 1028 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1083.9891 I do not- like, sh- I don't know what she said to the lady but I got approved 1086.5616 1029 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1086.5616 (pause 0.34) 1086.9052 1030 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1086.9052 to go there. 1087.3390 1031 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1087.3390 (pause 1.01) 1088.3533 1032 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1088.3533 I don't know what she said, [but.] 1089.3276 1033 DCB_int_01 1089.0014 [] 1089.6187 1034 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1089.7622 And I came and the next day and the principal- It's nothing the principal can do. 1091.8776 1035 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1091.8776 (pause 0.64) 1092.5182 1036 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1092.5182 He just like- 1093.0153 1037 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1093.0153 (pause 0.78) 1093.7961 1038 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1093.7961 But 1094.1264 1039 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1094.1264 (pause 0.69) 1094.8137 1040 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1094.8137 I made a promise, 1095.6751 1041 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1095.6751 (pause 0.46) 1096.1325 1042 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1096.1325 I wouldn't get in any more trouble, 1097.3137 1043 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1097.3137 (pause 0.48) 1097.7975 1044 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1097.7975 I would just ignore p- I just had a bad temper, at the time. 1100.1097 1045 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1100.1097 (pause 0.48) 1100.5869 1046 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1100.5869 Um, 1101.0540 1047 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1101.0540 (pause 0.49) 1101.5420 1048 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1101.5420 words. 1102.1492 1049 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1102.1492 (pause 0.22) 1102.3661 1050 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1102.3661 You didn't have to [touch me], just words. 1103.7408 1051 DCB_int_01 1102.8699 [Mm-hm.] 1103.2166 1052 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1104.3680 Really cause /?/ 1105.0520 1053 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1105.0520 (pause 0.19) 1105.2389 1054 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1105.2389 growing up- 1105.7160 1055 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1105.7160 (pause 0.26) 1105.9763 1056 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1105.9763 when you grew up it's like survival when you come into [the] 1107.9390 1057 DCB_int_01 1107.8589 [Mm.] 1108.1459 1058 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1108.3412 Maryland side it's like, we don't talk. Like, (laughing) 1110.1712 1059 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1110.1712 (pause 0.26) 1110.4314 1060 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1110.4314 you know, stuff like that, so. 1111.5625 1061 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1111.5625 (pause 0.47) 1112.0363 1062 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1112.0363 Um, 1112.4467 1063 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1112.4467 (pause 0.83) 1113.2784 1064 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1113.2784 I did really good 1114.3227 1065 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1114.3227 (pause 0.43) 1114.7498 1066 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1114.7498 my eleventh grade year, 1115.8609 1067 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1115.8609 (pause 0.54) 1116.4014 1068 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1116.4014 um, up until 1117.4724 1069 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1117.4724 (pause 0.50) 1117.9729 1070 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1117.9729 the end of the year. 1118.9005 1071 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1118.9005 (pause 0.72) 1119.6220 1072 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1119.6220 Um, 1120.3961 1073 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1120.3961 (pause 0.27) 1120.6630 1074 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1120.6630 there was a gentleman 1121.5406 1075 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1121.5406 (pause 0.51) 1122.0477 1076 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1122.0477 and I was really good friends with his brother in ROTC cause I was in ROTC, 1125.2408 1077 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1125.2408 (pause 0.30) 1125.5399 1078 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1125.5399 Air Force ROTC. And, um, 1127.5119 1079 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1127.5119 (pause 0.22) 1127.7362 1080 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1127.7362 1127.7896 1081 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1127.7896 (pause 0.65) 1128.4369 1082 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1128.4369 he- I guess he liked me, I didn't like him. 1130.4956 1083 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1130.4956 (pause 0.34) 1130.8359 1084 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1130.8359 And [he would,] 1131.8202 1085 DCB_int_01 1131.4532 [Mm.] 1131.8451 1086 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1132.5943 uh, kind of taunt me every day. 1134.3527 1087 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1134.3527 (pause 0.45) 1134.8039 1088 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1134.8039 And one particular day it was day before, uh, senior prom cause he was a senior. 1137.8002 1089 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1137.8002 (pause 0.45) 1138.2506 1090 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1138.2506 I was a junior. 1138.9380 1091 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1138.9380 (pause 0.35) 1139.2850 1092 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1139.2850 And he's sitting on his own car. 1140.8106 1093 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1140.8106 (pause 0.28) 1141.0927 1094 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1141.0927 And at this time I have a car now so I'm like, really moving up. 1143.7628 1095 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1143.7628 (pause 0.51) 1144.2732 1096 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1144.2732 And, um, he says, 1145.1274 1097 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1145.1274 (pause 0.71) 1145.8348 1098 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1145.8348 can you give me a ride? All I said was no, 1147.5364 1099 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1147.5364 (pause 0.24) 1147.7775 1100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1147.7775 and I just kept walking to my car. 1149.0454 1101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1149.0454 (pause 0.49) 1149.5359 1102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1149.5359 And then he proceeded to call me 1150.9806 1103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1150.9806 (pause 0.25) 1151.2275 1104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1151.2275 a very derogatory name, 1152.6122 1105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1152.6122 (pause 0.53) 1153.1460 1106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1153.1460 right? 1153.4330 1107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1153.4330 (pause 0.55) 1153.9810 1108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1153.9810 And I ignored him, and got in my car like, talking to myself like a crazy person. 1157.8381 1109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1157.8381 (pause 0.35) 1158.1884 1110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1158.1884 Like, 1158.3845 1111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1158.3845 (pause 0.21) 1158.5955 1112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1158.5955 just go to your car, 1159.4864 1113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1159.4864 (pause 0.28) 1159.7675 1114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1159.7675 you did good all year. 1160.7317 1115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1160.7317 (pause 0.21) 1160.9453 1116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1160.9453 Really coaching myself. 1161.9529 1117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1161.9529 (pause 0.55) 1162.5001 1118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1162.5001 I go to my car, I sit in my car and I'm just coaching myself. 1164.9125 1119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1164.9125 (pause 0.46) 1165.3729 1120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1165.3729 And I look up, 1165.9235 1121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1165.9235 (pause 0.87) 1166.7885 1122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1166.7885 he's standing in front of my car now. 1168.0630 1123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1168.0630 (pause 0.39) 1168.4534 1124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1168.4534 So I ran him over 1169.0774 1125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1169.0774 (pause 0.59) 1169.6646 1126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1169.6646 with the car. 1170.0739 1127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1170.0739 (pause 0.39) 1170.4687 1128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1170.4687 And, um- 1171.3629 1129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1171.3629 (pause 0.12) 1171.4830 1130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1171.4830 twice. 1171.8576 1131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1171.8576 (pause 0.78) 1172.6383 1132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1172.6383 And that was the only time. (laughing) 1174.5402 1133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1174.5402 (pause 0.39) 1174.9272 1134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1174.9272 But luckily I was also assistant to our security team, 1177.4430 1135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1177.4430 (pause 0.33) 1177.7767 1136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1177.7767 and this guy really likes me cause he was like, you have so much potential. 1180.4935 1137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1180.4935 (pause 0.54) 1181.0373 1138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1181.0373 And he was like, I don't have nothing on camera. 1182.7957 1139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1182.7957 (pause 0.38) 1183.1727 1140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1183.1727 I don't see no- so- (laughing) 1184.6083 1141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1184.6083 (pause 0.72) 1185.3290 1142 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1185.3290 But his mom was extremely livid, she wanted to press charges and everything. 1188.2919 1143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1188.2919 (pause 0.50) 1188.7957 1144 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1188.7957 But she, um, 1190.2171 1145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1190.2171 (pause 0.32) 1190.5382 1146 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1190.5382 real- when she saw- when she found out the whole story, 1192.3099 1147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1192.3099 (pause 0.41) 1192.7170 1148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1192.7170 is when she really turned on her son, because she said it was really no reason for you to taunt this young lady. 1197.0687 1149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1197.0687 (pause 0.44) 1197.5092 1150 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1197.5092 You have your own vehicle, this would have never happened 1199.9048 1151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1199.9048 (pause 0.27) 1200.1751 1152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1200.1751 had you not really instigated this. 1201.6899 1153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1201.6899 (pause 0.34) 1202.0277 1154 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1202.0277 It didn't really excuse me running over his legs and breaking them, it's just that 1204.7804 1155 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1204.7804 (pause 1.23) 1206.0083 1156 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1206.0083 she said, your legs wouldn't be broken right now if you hadn't 1208.5741 1157 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1208.5741 (pause 0.45) 1209.0287 1158 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1209.0287 taunted this young lady, so. 1210.0597 1159 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1210.0597 (pause 0.51) 1210.5702 1160 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1210.5702 Um, 1211.0340 1161 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1211.0340 (pause 0.43) 1211.4677 1162 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1211.4677 twelfth grade was smooth. 1212.5571 1163 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1212.5571 (pause 0.71) 1213.2703 1164 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1213.2703 Very smooth, twelfth grade. 1214.5549 1165 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1214.5549 (pause 0.57) 1215.1288 1166 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1215.1288 So twelfth grade was my most smooth year 1216.8738 1167 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1216.8738 (pause 0.48) 1217.3531 1168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1217.3531 and, um, 1218.2941 1169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1218.2941 (pause 0.21) 1218.5043 1170 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1218.5043 I think my most mature. 1219.6253 1171 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1219.6253 (pause 0.64) 1220.2626 1172 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1220.2626 So, 1220.6630 1173 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1220.6630 (pause 0.41) 1221.0768 1174 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1221.0768 I'm nothing like that obviously. 1222.4055 1175 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1222.4055 (pause 0.31) 1222.7125 1176 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1222.7125 You- you couldn't be 1223.5567 1177 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1223.5567 (pause 0.24) 1223.8002 1178 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1223.8002 where I am today. 1224.5943 1179 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1224.5943 (pause 0.89) 1225.4885 1180 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1225.4885 Yeah. 1225.7488 1181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1225.7488 (pause 0.16) 1225.9056 1182 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1225.9056 /It was/ funny stories. 1227.6340 1183 DCB_int_01 1227.5939 How did you- okay so how'd you end up- 1229.6167 1184 DCB_int_01 1229.8269 um, 1230.4909 1185 DCB_int_01 1230.4909 (pause 0.72) 1231.2116 1186 DCB_int_01 1231.2116 so how- so, how'd you 1232.7631 1187 DCB_int_01 1232.7631 (pause 0.16) 1232.9199 1188 DCB_int_01 1232.9199 transition from co- like, 1234.4981 1189 DCB_int_01 1234.4981 (pause 0.29) 1234.7926 1190 DCB_int_01 1234.7926 from s- 1235.1006 1191 DCB_int_01 1235.1006 (pause 0.35) 1235.4466 1192 DCB_int_01 1235.4466 from high school to [college] 1237.2250 1193 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1237.1249 [Uh-huh.] 1237.3902 1194 DCB_int_01 1237.4085 to military? 1238.2018 1195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1238.4828 Well, I had decided, um, 1240.3480 1196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1240.3480 (pause 0.34) 1240.6858 1197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1240.6858 1240.7392 1198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1240.7392 (pause 0.14) 1240.8793 1199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1240.8793 and I was always taught from my parents, 1242.2407 1200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1242.2407 (pause 0.49) 1242.7278 1201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1242.7278 you want change, you gotta change, 1243.7555 1202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1243.7555 (pause 0.19) 1243.9423 1203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1243.9423 period. 1244.3060 1204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1244.3060 (pause 0.47) 1244.7731 1205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1244.7731 You in control of everything, 1246.2479 1206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1246.2479 (pause 0.49) 1246.7384 1207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1246.7384 uh, in your life, 1247.7435 1208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1247.7435 (pause 0.42) 1248.1673 1209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1248.1673 everything, whatever. 1249.0081 1210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1249.0081 (pause 0.47) 1249.4785 1211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1249.4785 You- you know, you- you wanna be a millionaire, you go hang around millionaires. 1251.9710 1212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1251.9710 (pause 0.46) 1252.4281 1213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1252.4281 You know, you- 1252.8985 1214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1252.8985 (pause 0.37) 1253.2722 1215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1253.2722 five dummies in the room, you the sixth dummy. 1254.8412 1216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1254.8412 (pause 0.15) 1254.9914 1217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1254.9914 So, you gotta hang around what you wanna be. 1256.9733 1218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1256.9733 (pause 0.51) 1257.4872 1219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1257.4872 And that's what I decided to do. I was like, you know what, I don't wanna be running people over 1261.0481 1220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1261.0481 (pause 0.34) 1261.3851 1221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1261.3851 all the time they say something to me. 1262.9433 1222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1262.9433 (pause 0.52) 1263.4671 1223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1263.4671 I don't wanna be pushing nobody on train tracks, you know, I don't wanna be doing stuff like that (laughing) so. 1266.7378 1224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1266.7378 (pause 0.48) 1267.2216 1225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1267.2216 I started to 1267.9757 1226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1267.9757 (pause 0.32) 1268.2927 1227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1268.2927 go- literally get up, 1269.6340 1228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1269.6340 (pause 0.59) 1270.2245 1229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1270.2245 as a teenager, 1271.1254 1230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1271.1254 (pause 0.56) 1271.6868 1231 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1271.6868 like seventeen at this time, in twelfth grade, 1273.7221 1232 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1273.7221 (pause 0.65) 1274.3761 1233 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1274.3761 drive to these super rich areas, 1276.4448 1234 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1276.4448 (pause 0.41) 1276.8526 1235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1276.8526 and just go hang with those people. 1278.0939 1236 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1278.0939 (pause 0.65) 1278.7478 1237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1278.7478 And that's when I learned the power of networking. 1280.3015 1238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1280.3015 (pause 1.22) 1281.5172 1239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1281.5172 So, 1281.8842 1240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1281.8842 (pause 0.53) 1282.4147 1241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1282.4147 I was like, you know what? 1282.9386 1242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1282.9386 (pause 0.48) 1283.4199 1243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1283.4199 I remember being a little kid, 1285.0172 1244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1285.0172 (pause 0.26) 1285.2783 1245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1285.2783 networking. Didn't know what I was doing, I was just playing. 1287.1702 1246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1287.1702 (pause 0.66) 1287.8275 1247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1287.8275 But I'm networking and I'm getting with the types of people that I wanna be around. 1291.6387 1248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1291.6387 (pause 0.46) 1292.0991 1249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1292.0991 And 1292.5930 1250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1292.5930 (pause 0.65) 1293.2402 1251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1293.2402 these people are talking about education, 1294.6149 1252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1294.6149 (pause 0.61) 1295.2263 1253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1295.2263 higher education, entrepreneurship, 1297.3251 1254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1297.3251 (pause 0.35) 1297.6754 1255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1297.6754 inventions. 1298.7064 1256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1298.7064 (pause 0.72) 1299.4304 1257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1299.4304 Things that you just 1300.3980 1258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1300.3980 (pause 0.25) 1300.6458 1259 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1300.6458 sit at home, 1301.1930 1260 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1301.1930 (pause 0.31) 1301.5066 1261 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1301.5066 you know, to where you go work for a place it's because you just want to now cause you have to. I'm here because I want to be. I don't have to be here, I make more money in my own business. 1308.8079 1262 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1308.8079 (pause 0.85) 1309.6587 1263 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1309.6587 I like HR, 1310.6530 1264 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1310.6530 (pause 0.43) 1311.0834 1265 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1311.0834 period, I love it. I can't- I just can't step away from it. 1313.6760 1266 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1313.6760 (pause 0.61) 1314.2874 1267 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1314.2874 Um, 1314.6978 1268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1314.6978 (pause 0.28) 1314.9747 1269 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1314.9747 and that- they taught me that. 1316.2493 1270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1316.2493 (pause 0.47) 1316.7231 1271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1316.7231 Um, 1317.0134 1272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1317.0134 (pause 0.46) 1317.4705 1273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1317.4705 I went to the military because I had my daughter young. 1320.0038 1274 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1320.0038 (pause 0.22) 1320.2273 1275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1320.2273 My oldest daughter, she's twenty. 1321.3417 1276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1321.3417 (pause 0.57) 1321.9093 1277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1321.9093 I had her- her young. 1322.6563 1278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1322.6563 (pause 0.91) 1323.5639 1279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1323.5639 But I said I'm not gonna let that 1324.4748 1280 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1324.4748 (pause 0.35) 1324.8260 1281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1324.8260 get in my way. 1325.4599 1282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1325.4599 (pause 0.60) 1326.0572 1283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1326.0572 So, 1326.5476 1284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1326.5476 (pause 0.42) 1326.9714 1285 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1326.9714 I went to the military so that I- cause I didn't wanna depend on my parents. 1329.5272 1286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1329.5272 (pause 0.27) 1329.8008 1287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1329.8008 I didn't wanna be one of those, um, people 1331.4032 1288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1331.4032 (pause 0.55) 1331.9504 1289 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1331.9504 that, oh well I'm gonna 1333.0481 1290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1333.0481 (pause 0.35) 1333.4018 1291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1333.4018 live at home and 1334.4195 1292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1334.4195 (pause 0.65) 1335.0667 1293 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1335.0667 pretty much now have my parents raise me and my daughter. And 1337.3690 1294 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1337.3690 (pause 0.37) 1337.7368 1295 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1337.7368 so I said no, 1338.3541 1296 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1338.3541 (pause 0.20) 1338.5568 1297 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1338.5568 1338.6775 1298 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1338.6775 (pause 0.53) 1339.2045 1299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1339.2045 I'm gonna go to the military, 1340.5029 1300 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1340.5029 (pause 0.40) 1340.9033 1301 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1340.9033 start a career 1341.7074 1302 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1341.7074 (pause 0.43) 1342.1411 1303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1342.1411 where I can take care 1343.1563 1304 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1343.1563 (pause 0.20) 1343.3571 1305 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1343.3571 of my daughter, everything, and get my education. 1345.9557 1306 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1345.9557 (pause 0.50) 1346.4562 1307 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1346.4562 And that's what I did. 1347.2136 1308 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1347.2136 (pause 1.06) 1348.2779 1309 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1348.2779 So, it was the best decision ever. 1349.9971 1310 DCB_int_01 1351.1115 And so when you moved- when you went to the military you got to travel a lot, 1354.4681 1311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1354.5715 [Mm-hm.] 1354.8552 1312 DCB_int_01 1354.6483 [clearly.] 1355.1676 1313 DCB_int_01 1355.6301 Um, were y- so you were separated from your daughter. 1357.9557 1314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1358.3594 Yeah, only for like, um, 1360.0978 1315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1360.0978 (pause 0.55) 1360.6525 1316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1360.6525 about eight months. 1361.6000 1317 DCB_int_01 1361.7802 Oh, [okay.] 1362.2255 1318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1362.0672 [She was] with my mom. 1362.7545 1319 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1363.3050 When I went through, uh, my mom and my dad 1364.7831 1320 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1364.7831 (pause 0.28) 1365.0601 1321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1365.0601 when I went through basic training 1366.6016 1322 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1366.6016 (pause 0.52) 1367.1196 1323 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1367.1196 and tech school and then whatever school after that. 1369.2316 1324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1369.2316 (pause 0.54) 1369.7688 1325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1369.7688 Then I got stationed in Dover, 1370.7998 1326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1370.7998 (pause 0.49) 1371.2903 1327 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1371.2903 which was- 1371.7641 1328 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1371.7641 (pause 0.38) 1372.1478 1329 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1372.1478 which is specifically one of the reasons why I picked mortuary. 1374.6844 1330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1374.6844 (pause 0.35) 1375.0348 1331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1375.0348 Mortuary was my original field. 1376.5896 1332 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1376.5896 (pause 0.76) 1377.3470 1333 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1377.3470 Uh, [yeah.] 1377.9710 1334 DCB_int_01 1377.7708 [Wow.] (whispered) 1378.3268 1335 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1378.5824 Well /?/ you can't make a mistake, it's quiet. 1380.3308 1336 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1380.3308 (pause 0.44) 1380.7712 1337 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1380.7712 So, I picked mortuary 1382.1492 1338 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1382.1492 (pause 0.59) 1382.7364 1339 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1382.7364 and- 1383.1068 1340 DCB_int_01 1383.1702 And people- you know, you will never go out of business cause people always die. 1386.1039 1341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1386.0438 They always die. 1386.7645 1342 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1387.6620 Mortuary and 1388.7264 1343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1388.7264 (pause 0.42) 1389.1468 1344 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1389.1468 being a- uh, 1389.9943 1345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1389.9943 (pause 0.26) 1390.2546 1346 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1390.2546 a GYN, 1390.8760 1347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1390.8760 (pause 0.13) 1391.0095 1348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1391.0095 OB. 1391.3843 1349 DCB_int_01 1391.4365 Yup [cause people] always will have babies. 1393.2316 1350 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1391.7268 [/Always-/] 1392.0905 1351 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1393.2516 Yup. 1393.5103 1352 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1393.5103 (pause 0.82) 1394.3260 1353 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1394.3260 So, um, 1395.3537 1354 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1395.3537 (pause 0.40) 1395.7541 1355 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1395.7541 also went into mortuary. I went in because it's quiet, 1397.8736 1356 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1397.8736 (pause 0.58) 1398.4509 1357 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1398.4509 not cause I didn't wanna talk to anybody, but I wanted to study. 1400.6772 1358 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1400.6772 (pause 0.20) 1400.8766 1359 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1400.8766 Cause I was like, I'm not gonna be here forever. 1402.3413 1360 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1402.3413 (pause 0.55) 1402.8885 1361 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1402.8885 I'm'a get my degree, (laughing) 1403.6734 1362 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1403.6734 (pause 0.25) 1403.9237 1363 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1403.9237 you know, that was my 1404.6511 1364 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1404.6511 (pause 0.10) 1404.7512 1365 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1404.7512 plan. 1405.2250 1366 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1405.2250 (pause 0.55) 1405.7788 1367 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1405.7788 Um, 1406.2560 1368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1406.2560 (pause 0.15) 1406.4061 1369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1406.4061 and it was just to do mortuary. HR was never- 1408.7083 1370 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1408.7083 (pause 0.48) 1409.1855 1371 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1409.1855 I had no- HR was not even 1410.7678 1372 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1410.7678 (pause 0.52) 1411.2884 1373 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1411.2884 in my, um, path 1412.5543 1374 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1412.5543 (pause 0.31) 1412.8599 1375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1412.8599 at all. 1413.2652 1376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1413.2652 (pause 0.51) 1413.7708 1377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1413.7708 Um, I didn't quite no what my path was gonna be other than that I'm'a just get my education and see where it takes me. 1418.4428 1378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1418.4428 (pause 0.53) 1418.9733 1379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1418.9733 It just so happened that, um- And I was a true mor- like mortuary /?/. I was doing f- like forensics, working with the FBI and stuff like that, 1425.0134 1380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1425.0134 (pause 0.47) 1425.4838 1381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1425.4838 um, as they come through Dover. Cause that's the main mortuary for the entire military. 1428.6144 1382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1428.6144 (pause 0.86) 1429.4785 1383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1429.4785 Not just the Air Force, all the branches. 1430.9900 1384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1430.9900 (pause 0.56) 1431.5472 1385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1431.5472 Um, 1432.0677 1386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1432.0677 (pause 0.63) 1432.6958 1387 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1432.6958 one of /our/ ladies went out 1433.9237 1388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1433.9237 (pause 0.22) 1434.1472 1389 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1434.1472 on maternity leave. 1435.3072 1390 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1435.3072 (pause 0.34) 1435.6487 1391 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1435.6487 And they're like, 1436.0357 1392 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1436.0357 (pause 0.62) 1436.6530 1393 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1436.6530 /RD-NAME-2/ we need you to come, 1437.9676 1394 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1437.9676 (pause 0.33) 1438.2946 1395 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1438.2946 you're really good talking with the people. 1439.6501 1396 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1439.6501 (pause 0.35) 1440.0038 1397 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1440.0038 And I was like, I don't wanna talk to these people. 1441.1182 1398 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1441.1182 (pause 0.29) 1441.4051 1399 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1441.4051 [And they was like-] 1441.9491 1400 DCB_int_01 1441.6153 [That's why I'm in] the mortuary. 1442.5727 1401 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1442.9299 Right, I was like, whatchu mean? I'm cool talking to you. 1445.1288 1402 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1445.1288 (pause 0.34) 1445.4666 1403 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1445.4666 So they're like, no I want you to talk to the people. 1446.9614 1404 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1446.9614 (pause 0.35) 1447.3150 1405 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1447.3150 And- but I didn't know how to take it because they said, well, 1449.5138 1406 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1449.5138 (pause 0.30) 1449.8175 1407 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1449.8175 you're really good talking to people because you don't have any emotions. 1452.3627 1408 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1452.3627 (pause 0.54) 1452.8980 1409 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1452.8980 I was like, 1453.2650 1410 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1453.2650 (pause 0.37) 1453.6354 1411 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1453.6354 what are you trying to say? He was like, you don't care. I was like, I do care. (laughing) 1455.8075 1412 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1455.8075 (pause 0.42) 1456.2279 1413 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1456.2279 They needed somebody who can talk to- 1458.1439 1414 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1458.1439 (pause 0.73) 1458.8780 1415 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1458.8780 Because 1459.1949 1416 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1459.1949 (pause 0.12) 1459.3159 1417 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1459.3159 when you're in the HR side of mortuary you know everything, 1461.8208 1418 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1461.8208 (pause 0.52) 1462.3413 1419 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1462.3413 right? 1462.6550 1420 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1462.6550 (pause 0.50) 1463.1596 1421 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1463.1596 On my side of the house you're just a number. 1464.7445 1422 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1464.7445 (pause 1.04) 1465.7822 1423 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1465.7822 I don't know your name, 1466.6664 1424 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1466.6664 (pause 0.50) 1467.1702 1425 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1467.1702 I don't wanna know your name. 1468.0243 1426 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1468.0243 (pause 0.34) 1468.3622 1427 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1468.3622 I don't know where you came from, I don't know if you have kids, I don't know if you're pregnant now. 1471.6587 1428 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1471.6587 (pause 0.39) 1472.0524 1429 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1472.0524 I don't know anything. And we kind of like it that way cause it keeps you detached. 1474.7884 1430 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1474.7884 (pause 1.10) 1475.8837 1431 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1475.8837 Well on the HR side you know everything. 1477.4685 1432 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1477.4685 (pause 0.70) 1478.1725 1433 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1478.1725 So you knew- you know 1479.1301 1434 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1479.1301 (pause 0.47) 1479.6006 1435 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1479.6006 that they just joined or 1480.9052 1436 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1480.9052 (pause 0.30) 1481.2030 1437 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1481.2030 they might've died in a car accident. You know, it's not always war. 1483.2850 1438 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1483.2850 (pause 0.33) 1483.6120 1439 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1483.6120 It's whatever. 1484.2540 1440 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1484.2540 (pause 0.25) 1484.4995 1441 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1484.4995 /And/ they just have that benefit cause they're military, 1486.2679 1442 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1486.2679 (pause 0.73) 1486.9995 1443 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1486.9995 or they're military dependent. 1488.2440 1444 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1488.2440 (pause 0.30) 1488.5443 1445 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1488.5443 1488.6177 1446 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1488.6177 (pause 0.22) 1488.8412 1447 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1488.8412 So, 1489.2850 1448 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1489.2850 (pause 0.56) 1489.8489 1449 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1489.8489 they're like, we need someone who can 1491.3370 1450 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1491.3370 (pause 0.29) 1491.6273 1451 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1491.6273 talk to the families 1492.6349 1452 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1492.6349 (pause 0.38) 1493.0120 1453 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1493.0120 and just be 1493.6434 1454 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1493.6434 (pause 0.61) 1494.2573 1455 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1494.2573 mundane. 1494.8227 1456 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1494.8227 (pause 0.64) 1495.4585 1457 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1495.4585 Just be 1495.9590 1458 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1495.9590 (pause 0.17) 1496.1325 1459 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1496.1325 morbid. And just be like, 1497.2085 1460 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1497.2085 (pause 0.31) 1497.5172 1461 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1497.5172 1497.5939 1462 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1497.5939 (pause 0.21) 1497.8075 1463 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1497.8075 this is what happened, 1498.5682 1464 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1498.5682 (pause 0.60) 1499.1663 1465 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1499.1663 blah blah blah. 1499.7101 1466 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1499.7101 (pause 0.30) 1500.0104 1467 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1500.0104 And while the families are falling all on the floor you're just like, 1502.0491 1468 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1502.0491 (pause 1.24) 1503.2936 1469 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1503.2936 1503.3904 1470 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1503.3904 (pause 0.39) 1503.7841 1471 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1503.7841 I'm gonna leave these papers here for you, (laughing) you know. 1505.3398 1472 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1505.3398 (pause 0.39) 1505.7335 1473 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1505.7335 You have to kind of keep it 1506.7378 1474 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1506.7378 (pause 0.52) 1507.2617 1475 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1507.2617 separate. 1507.6120 1476 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1507.6120 (pause 0.49) 1508.1058 1477 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1508.1058 Um, I said 1508.5763 1478 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1508.5763 (pause 0.49) 1509.0701 1479 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1509.0701 okay. 1509.5506 1480 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1509.5506 (pause 0.26) 1509.8075 1481 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1509.8075 I said, this the HR side? Hm. 1511.0654 1482 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1511.0654 (pause 0.50) 1511.5633 1483 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1511.5633 But- 1511.7635 1484 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1511.7635 (pause 0.37) 1512.1339 1485 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1512.1339 so I came to HR through that door, 1513.8289 1486 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1513.8289 (pause 0.59) 1514.4195 1487 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1514.4195 but that's the military mortuary side of it. 1516.4881 1488 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1516.4881 (pause 0.53) 1517.0161 1489 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1517.0161 Um, 1517.4532 1490 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1517.4532 (pause 0.14) 1517.5967 1491 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1517.5967 but then I kind of liked it and I learned 1519.5419 1492 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1519.5419 (pause 0.51) 1520.0491 1493 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1520.0491 the vast 1520.8232 1494 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1520.8232 (pause 0.24) 1521.0667 1495 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1521.0667 world 1521.6640 1496 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1521.6640 (pause 0.75) 1522.4181 1497 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1522.4181 of HR. It's so broad, um, 1524.3808 1498 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1524.3808 (pause 0.78) 1525.1649 1499 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1525.1649 it's ever changing. 1526.3961 1500 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1526.3961 (pause 0.68) 1527.0768 1501 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1527.0768 It's never the same, mortuary's always the same. 1529.3056 1502 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1529.3056 (pause 0.79) 1530.1005 1503 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1530.1005 Like /we-/ this- 1530.7478 1504 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1530.7478 (pause 0.82) 1531.5653 1505 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1531.5653 people die, you try to fix 'em, you can't fix 'em. 1533.5939 1506 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1533.5939 (pause 0.73) 1534.3280 1507 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1534.3280 Casket, no casket, it's- 1535.4733 1508 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1535.4733 (pause 0.55) 1536.0238 1509 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1536.0238 it's always the same. 1536.8279 1510 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1536.8279 (pause 0.70) 1537.5286 1511 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1537.5286 Um, HR is so 1539.0100 1512 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1539.0100 (pause 0.35) 1539.3570 1513 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1539.3570 vast, you meet so many people. 1541.0620 1514 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1541.0620 (pause 0.56) 1541.6201 1515 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1541.6201 So many personalities, 1543.3184 1516 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1543.3184 (pause 0.45) 1543.7688 1517 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1543.7688 um, so many characters 1545.1821 1518 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1545.1821 (pause 0.58) 1545.7608 1519 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1545.7608 all over the world. 1546.5790 1520 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1546.5790 (pause 0.60) 1547.1796 1521 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1547.1796 Um, 1547.7035 1522 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1547.7035 (pause 0.22) 1547.9270 1523 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1547.9270 the universal laws 1549.0715 1524 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1549.0715 (pause 0.31) 1549.3784 1525 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1549.3784 are the same, 1550.2526 1526 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1550.2526 (pause 0.37) 1550.6230 1527 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1550.6230 and then you have these little break out laws. And so, 1552.2646 1528 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1552.2646 (pause 0.32) 1552.5816 1529 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1552.5816 it was just so fascinating and intriguing and /then/ so I decided to 1555.5553 1530 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1555.5553 (pause 0.30) 1555.8589 1531 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1555.8589 run from there. 1556.4628 1532 DCB_int_01 1556.8899 What's your craziest HR story 1558.7019 1533 DCB_int_01 1558.7019 (pause 0.52) 1559.2263 1534 DCB_int_01 1559.2263 that you [can share?] 1560.1344 1535 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1559.4966 [Oh,] 1559.8837 1536 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1560.6144 well without giving out obviously any names, 1562.3594 1537 DCB_int_01 1562.3027 Right. 1562.5533 1538 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1562.9867 or the company. Um, 1564.5882 1539 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1564.5882 (pause 0.41) 1564.9986 1540 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1564.9986 one company I work with, um, the craziest stories, 1567.9990 1541 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1567.9990 (pause 0.47) 1568.4695 1542 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1568.4695 um, that were just so- Considering it was a Fortune five hundred company. 1570.8785 1543 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1570.8785 (pause 0.27) 1571.1496 1544 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1571.1496 This is the only company I work with that's 1572.5777 1545 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1572.5777 (pause 0.78) 1573.3618 1546 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1573.3618 this small, 1573.9990 1547 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1573.9990 (pause 0.37) 1574.3661 1548 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1574.3661 which 1574.6230 1549 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1574.6230 (pause 0.31) 1574.9299 1550 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1574.9299 I'm inviting, I'm actually ready for that (laughing) 1576.8084 1551 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1576.8084 (pause 0.18) 1576.9928 1552 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1576.9928 cause everyone has been 1578.0405 1553 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1578.0405 (pause 0.49) 1578.5343 1554 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1578.5343 forty-five hundred or more, 1579.6303 1555 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1579.6303 (pause 0.52) 1580.1525 1556 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1580.1525 so. 1580.5996 1557 DCB_int_01 1580.6497 Okay, well we're not that. [We won't-] we won't be that, so you're good. 1583.7057 1558 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1581.7874 [No.] 1582.0978 1559 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1583.7202 This [particular] company is like a hundred thousand or so. 1586.0424 1560 DCB_int_01 1583.9571 [You're good.] 1584.2240 1561 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1586.5896 And 1587.2035 1562 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1587.2035 (pause 0.98) 1588.1878 1563 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1588.1878 all of the district managers just wanna sleep with all the cashiers. 1590.9974 1564 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1590.9974 (pause 1.23) 1592.2293 1565 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1592.2293 And I'm like, 1593.5539 1566 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1593.5539 (pause 0.49) 1594.0410 1567 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1594.0410 So I- I spend most of my time doing 1595.7502 1568 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1595.7502 (pause 0.14) 1595.8937 1569 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1595.8937 investigations. 1596.8012 1570 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1596.8012 (pause 0.61) 1597.4151 1571 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1597.4151 All the time, (laughing) constantly doing investigations. 1600.1244 1572 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1600.1244 (pause 0.55) 1600.6783 1573 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1600.6783 And the funniest stories are like the district managers 1603.7570 1574 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1603.7570 (pause 0.50) 1604.2593 1575 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1604.2593 treating 1605.0701 1576 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1605.0701 (pause 0.30) 1605.3704 1577 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1605.3704 some of the cashier women 1606.9219 1578 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1606.9219 (pause 0.63) 1607.5533 1579 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1607.5533 like their personal 1609.0481 1580 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1609.0481 (pause 0.55) 1609.5987 1581 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1609.5987 1609.6821 1582 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1609.6821 (pause 1.48) 1611.1668 1583 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1611.1668 escorts, 1611.8809 1584 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1611.8809 (pause 0.39) 1612.2713 1585 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1612.2713 but in a respectable way. 1613.7001 1586 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1613.7001 (pause 0.75) 1614.4542 1587 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1614.4542 Um, I mean, buying them things, flowers and ugh, it's just so- 1618.2446 1588 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1618.2446 (pause 0.47) 1618.7117 1589 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1618.7117 And I would just be sitting and- 1619.8503 1590 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1619.8503 (pause 0.24) 1620.0939 1591 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1620.0939 and keep in mind, 1620.9080 1592 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1620.9080 (pause 0.27) 1621.1816 1593 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1621.1816 you're- as a HR professional, 1622.8699 1594 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1622.8699 (pause 0.45) 1623.3170 1595 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1623.3170 you work closely with your district managers, they're your- they're your business partners. Like, /RD-NAME-3/ would be a business partner to me. 1628.1125 1596 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1628.1125 (pause 0.54) 1628.6563 1597 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1628.6563 Um, 1629.0667 1598 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1629.0667 (pause 0.34) 1629.4104 1599 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1629.4104 so it gets weird to them 1631.0228 1600 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1631.0228 (pause 0.33) 1631.3565 1601 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1631.3565 when it comes 1632.2373 1602 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1632.2373 (pause 0.50) 1632.7345 1603 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1632.7345 to investigation cause though we're business partners and we're, 1635.2503 1604 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1635.2503 (pause 0.33) 1635.5772 1605 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1635.5772 um, professional friends, 1637.2522 1606 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1637.2522 (pause 0.44) 1637.6968 1607 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1637.6968 1637.7669 1608 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1637.7669 (pause 0.66) 1638.4309 1609 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1638.4309 I know how to turn it off. 1639.4842 1610 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1639.4842 (pause 0.27) 1639.7555 1611 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1639.7555 That's where mortuary comes back in, (laughing) I turn it [off when it comes] to the investigation side. 1642.9653 1612 DCB_int_01 1641.3670 [Mm.] 1641.8575 1613 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1643.6401 And they feel embarrassed because they're like, 1645.2850 1614 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1645.2850 (pause 0.15) 1645.4318 1615 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1645.4318 god, like this- 1646.2350 1616 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1646.2350 (pause 0.42) 1646.6597 1617 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1646.6597 It's embarrassing 1647.4204 1618 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1647.4204 (pause 0.27) 1647.6907 1619 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1647.6907 when they know that you know 1648.8585 1620 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1648.8585 (pause 0.51) 1649.3665 1621 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1649.3665 what they've been doing. Um, 1650.7812 1622 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1650.7812 (pause 0.25) 1651.0281 1623 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1651.0281 1651.0948 1624 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1651.0948 (pause 0.14) 1651.2383 1625 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1651.2383 those stories are always the funniest because they- 1653.3036 1626 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1653.3036 (pause 0.33) 1653.6306 1627 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1653.6306 that's when I learned that people can be very creative 1655.7005 1628 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1655.7005 (pause 0.39) 1656.0905 1629 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1656.0905 with their stories (laughing) when they come up with things. 1657.8656 1630 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1657.8656 (pause 0.34) 1658.2026 1631 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1658.2026 Even when you say, 1659.0334 1632 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1659.0334 (pause 0.69) 1659.7207 1633 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1659.7207 it's on video. 1660.7384 1634 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1660.7384 (pause 0.46) 1661.1997 1635 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1661.1997 Oh, 1661.5333 1636 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1661.5333 (pause 0.53) 1662.0638 1637 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1662.0638 that's not me. I'm like, like Shaggy? 1663.6988 1638 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1663.6988 (pause 0.45) 1664.1459 1639 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1664.1459 That's not you? 1664.5396 1640 DCB_int_01 1665.1869 1665.3403 1641 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1665.3165 They like- 1665.8008 1642 DCB_int_01 1665.7908 1665.9209 1643 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1666.2312 I'm like, okay. 1666.9352 1644 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1666.9352 (pause 0.22) 1667.1529 1645 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1667.1529 And so I'm like, that's- 1667.8002 1646 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1667.8002 (pause 0.14) 1667.9370 1647 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1667.9370 that's not you. 1668.3908 1648 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1668.3908 (pause 0.90) 1669.2884 1649 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1669.2884 No that's not- that's your twin. 1670.4108 1650 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1670.4108 (pause 0.88) 1671.2870 1651 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1671.2870 That's your twin? 1671.8310 1652 DCB_int_01 1672.4990 That you just had yesterday? 1673.7852 1653 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1673.8303 Yeah, that's wearing your clothes? 1675.2496 1654 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1675.2496 (pause 0.78) 1676.0257 1655 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1676.0257 In our store? Putting in your code? 1677.6673 1656 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1677.6673 (pause 0.43) 1678.1011 1657 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1678.1011 So, 1678.6451 1658 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1678.6451 (pause 0.58) 1679.2289 1659 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1679.2289 I mean, it- those- those pieces are 1681.3818 1660 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1681.3818 (pause 0.42) 1681.8022 1661 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1681.8022 hilarious, and I still 1682.8732 1662 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1682.8732 (pause 0.51) 1683.3837 1663 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1683.3837 get those stories today from the same company cause people are still there. 1686.0605 1664 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1686.0605 (pause 0.38) 1686.4375 1665 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1686.4375 So yeah. 1686.8122 1666 DCB_int_01 1687.4919 Wow. (whispered) 1687.8422 1667 DCB_int_01 1687.8422 (pause 0.35) 1688.1926 1668 DCB_int_01 1688.1926 That's- 1688.5188 1669 DCB_int_01 1688.5188 (pause 0.27) 1688.7931 1670 DCB_int_01 1688.7931 well, okay. 1689.5639 1671 DCB_int_01 1689.5639 (pause 0.50) 1690.0610 1672 DCB_int_01 1690.0610 So how do you- 1690.9219 1673 DCB_int_01 1690.9219 (pause 0.64) 1691.5633 1674 DCB_int_01 1691.5633 you- 1691.7769 1675 DCB_int_01 1691.7769 (pause 0.29) 1692.0638 1676 DCB_int_01 1692.0638 So you still have your own business now? 1693.4752 1677 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1693.4852 Mm-hm. 1693.8185 1678 DCB_int_01 1694.0858 So what's your business? If you don't mind me [asking.] 1696.4297 1679 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1696.1511 [We-] oh yeah no problem, we do mostly, um, 1698.3591 1680 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1698.6778 media 1699.3484 1681 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1699.3484 (pause 0.46) 1699.8122 1682 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1699.8122 sponsorships, lots of sponsorships, we get a lot of sponsorship requests. 1702.8251 1683 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1702.8251 (pause 0.32) 1703.1463 1684 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1703.1463 Uh, but more consulting. 1704.2307 1685 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1704.2307 (pause 0.30) 1704.5343 1686 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1704.5343 Um, because I kind of got burnt out 1705.9023 1687 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1705.9023 (pause 0.43) 1706.3360 1688 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1706.3360 with actually soliciting 1707.4838 1689 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1707.4838 (pause 0.34) 1707.8275 1690 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1707.8275 sponsorships. 1708.5615 1691 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1708.5615 (pause 0.46) 1709.0220 1692 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1709.0220 Um, I just didn't wanna do it anymore. 1710.3574 1693 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1710.3574 (pause 0.33) 1710.6844 1694 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1710.6844 So- but I got really good at it. 1712.3427 1695 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1712.3427 (pause 0.39) 1712.7364 1696 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1712.7364 So I said I'm just gonna consult people on how 1714.9185 1697 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1714.9185 (pause 0.25) 1715.1730 1698 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1715.1730 to do it. 1715.5596 1699 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1715.5596 (pause 0.30) 1715.8636 1700 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1715.8636 How to put your package together, what that package should look like. 1717.9990 1701 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1717.9990 (pause 0.46) 1718.4562 1702 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1718.4562 Things like that. Um, 1719.4338 1703 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1719.4338 (pause 0.12) 1719.5539 1704 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1719.5539 and I done have fun doing that. 1720.9853 1705 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1720.9853 (pause 0.39) 1721.3765 1706 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1721.3765 Um, lots of business consulting 1723.4885 1707 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1723.4885 (pause 0.30) 1723.7922 1708 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1723.7922 on both the 1724.5496 1709 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1724.5496 (pause 0.37) 1724.9233 1710 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1724.9233 corporate and entertainment side. 1726.1545 1711 DCB_int_01 1727.2697 You said we, so it's you- 1728.9013 1712 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1729.1949 I have like, four staff members. 1730.4895 1713 DCB_int_01 1730.5829 Oh wow. 1731.3603 1714 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1731.4638 Yeah. 1731.7505 1715 DCB_int_01 1732.2245 That's amazing. 1732.8785 1716 DCB_int_01 1732.8785 (pause 0.32) 1733.1997 1717 DCB_int_01 1733.1997 And so I remember the other day we were talking just kind of in passing. You said [that one] of the things that you had to leave DC. 1738.7851 1718 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1736.3460 [Mm-hm.] 1736.6830 1719 DCB_int_01 1739.6734 And it took- no, when you came back it took you a long time to appreciate it. 1742.7164 1720 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1742.9700 [Oh yeah.] 1743.5906 1721 DCB_int_01 1742.9733 [Tell me about] that. 1743.8453 1722 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1743.8308 Oh my god. 1744.3080 1723 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1744.8385 Um, 1745.4391 1724 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1745.4391 (pause 0.39) 1745.8303 1725 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1745.8303 1745.9137 1726 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1745.9137 (pause 0.15) 1746.0638 1727 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1746.0638 I left, um, traveling with the military. 1748.2927 1728 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1748.2927 (pause 0.60) 1748.8932 1729 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1748.8932 And when I came back, 1750.3613 1730 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1750.3613 (pause 0.55) 1750.9160 1731 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1750.9160 um, like in O six I think it was, 1753.0348 1732 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1753.0348 (pause 1.11) 1754.1459 1733 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1754.1459 I- I- I mean, I just was like- 1756.4815 1734 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1756.4815 (pause 0.80) 1757.2797 1735 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1757.2797 When you've been all over the world and you've been to these places where mentality is just so different, 1761.7841 1736 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1761.7841 (pause 0.53) 1762.3113 1737 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1762.3113 um, the mentality is more positive, people are more 1764.8713 1738 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1764.8713 (pause 0.41) 1765.2850 1739 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1765.2850 willing to help you be better, 1767.6807 1740 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1767.6807 (pause 0.65) 1768.3346 1741 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1768.3346 and people are willing to just be better, 1769.7469 1742 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1769.7469 (pause 0.37) 1770.1205 1743 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1770.1205 period. 1770.6611 1744 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1770.6611 (pause 0.92) 1771.5853 1745 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1771.5853 And you come back 1772.7631 1746 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1772.7631 (pause 0.55) 1773.3103 1747 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1773.3103 here 1773.8609 1748 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1773.8609 (pause 1.11) 1774.9661 1749 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1774.9661 and people are just angry, 1776.4409 1750 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1776.4409 (pause 0.57) 1777.0081 1751 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1777.0081 um, 1777.6020 1752 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1777.6020 (pause 0.16) 1777.7588 1753 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1777.7588 it's a crab world, everybody's pulling each other down, 1780.4815 1754 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1780.4815 (pause 0.76) 1781.2464 1755 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1781.2464 um, 1781.9604 1756 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1781.9604 (pause 0.34) 1782.3007 1757 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1782.3007 just a bunch of negativity basically. 1784.0558 1758 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1784.0558 (pause 0.58) 1784.6397 1759 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1784.6397 But, 1784.9767 1760 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1784.9767 (pause 0.53) 1785.5105 1761 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1785.5105 1785.5973 1762 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1785.5973 (pause 0.33) 1785.9242 1763 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1785.9242 I s- I also digress and say that's what I see, 1789.1616 1764 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1789.1616 (pause 0.50) 1789.6587 1765 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1789.6587 because of where I came from, 1790.9400 1766 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1790.9400 (pause 0.68) 1791.6173 1767 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1791.6173 from so long being away 1793.1054 1768 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1793.1054 (pause 0.54) 1793.6468 1769 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1793.6468 that 1793.9470 1770 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1793.9470 (pause 0.50) 1794.4509 1771 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1794.4509 when I compared it, 1795.3851 1772 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1795.3851 (pause 0.76) 1796.1425 1773 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1796.1425 that's what I see is the negative stuff. 1797.8275 1774 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1797.8275 (pause 0.58) 1798.4055 1775 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1798.4055 Um, 1798.9294 1776 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1798.9294 (pause 1.17) 1800.1039 1777 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1800.1039 and I hated it. 1800.7545 1778 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1800.7545 (pause 0.58) 1801.3317 1779 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1801.3317 I was like, 1801.7955 1780 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1801.7955 (pause 0.23) 1802.0224 1781 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1802.0224 I am moving, I can't be here, 1803.9610 1782 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1803.9610 (pause 0.48) 1804.4381 1783 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1804.4381 this is- I'm going to commit a crime, 1806.8446 1784 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1806.8446 (pause 0.33) 1807.1749 1785 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1807.1749 and I don't wanna commit a crime (laughing) cause I don't want my kids in these schools. 1810.2012 1786 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1810.2012 (pause 0.34) 1810.5449 1787 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1810.5449 I'm'a beat a teacher up. 1811.4899 1788 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1811.4899 (pause 0.33) 1811.8169 1789 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1811.8169 I can't do it. (laughing) 1812.6778 1790 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1812.6778 (pause 0.16) 1812.8379 1791 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1812.8379 So, 1813.3166 1792 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1813.3166 (pause 0.51) 1813.8222 1793 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1813.8222 um, 1814.3661 1794 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1814.3661 (pause 0.45) 1814.8165 1795 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1814.8165 I end up- 1815.2603 1796 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1815.2603 (pause 0.39) 1815.6506 1797 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1815.6506 when I first came back I was 1816.7884 1798 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1816.7884 (pause 0.23) 1817.0228 1799 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1817.0228 right over the DC line, in Suitland, Forestville [type area.] 1820.3994 1800 DCB_int_01 1819.7237 [Mm-hm.] 1820.0792 1801 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1821.1201 And 1821.6940 1802 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1821.6940 (pause 0.23) 1821.9276 1803 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1821.9276 not even six months 1822.8752 1804 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1822.8752 (pause 0.15) 1823.0228 1805 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1823.0228 and I- I moved. 1823.9103 1806 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1823.9103 (pause 0.43) 1824.3441 1807 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1824.3441 And, um, it was like- it was- 1825.1782 1808 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1825.1782 (pause 0.13) 1825.3084 1809 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1825.3084 it- the rent was good, it was all, you know, utilities included. 1827.7897 1810 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1827.7897 (pause 0.42) 1828.2064 1811 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1828.2064 Um, and it was- it was really good for me to just be there for a little bit before I purchased. 1831.4470 1812 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1831.4470 (pause 0.69) 1832.1410 1813 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1832.1410 I couldn't even last six months. 1833.3822 1814 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1833.3822 (pause 0.42) 1833.8060 1815 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1833.8060 And, um, 1834.3231 1816 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1834.3231 (pause 0.16) 1834.4833 1817 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1834.4833 I moved to Waldorf 1835.2880 1818 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1835.2880 (pause 0.64) 1835.9322 1819 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1835.9322 where it was- 1836.7497 1820 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1836.7497 (pause 0.54) 1837.2935 1821 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1837.2935 traffic was horrible, 1838.6181 1822 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1838.6181 (pause 0.85) 1839.4690 1823 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1839.4690 the rent was way more, at least double 1841.4309 1824 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1841.4309 (pause 0.35) 1841.7812 1825 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1841.7812 what I was paying. 1842.5795 1826 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1842.5795 (pause 0.71) 1843.2902 1827 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1843.2902 But 1843.7239 1828 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1843.7239 (pause 0.62) 1844.3479 1829 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1844.3479 at that time I had my two daughters 1845.6992 1830 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1845.6992 (pause 0.67) 1846.3665 1831 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1846.3665 and 1847.0205 1832 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1847.0205 (pause 0.69) 1847.7145 1833 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1847.7145 it was worth it. 1848.3985 1834 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1848.3985 (pause 0.84) 1849.2401 1835 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1849.2401 I was like, you can't really put a price tag or a convenience 1851.8126 1836 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1851.8126 (pause 0.17) 1851.9861 1837 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1851.9861 marker 1852.4566 1838 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1852.4566 (pause 0.42) 1852.8803 1839 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1852.8803 on safety 1853.7777 1840 DCB_int_01 1854.1958 [Mm-hm.] 1854.7771 1841 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1854.3059 [and education,] 1855.6172 1842 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1856.2111 things of that nature. You know, I don't have to worry about being a teacher up here. 1858.7602 1843 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1858.7602 (pause 0.34) 1859.0972 1844 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1859.0972 Things like that. 1859.7679 1845 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1859.7679 (pause 0.61) 1860.3760 1846 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1860.3760 You know, I don't have to worry about 1861.6505 1847 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1861.6505 (pause 0.41) 1862.0576 1848 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1862.0576 a lot of safety things. You know, you- you can't just be like you on the prairie and just be free for all. 1866.1049 1849 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1866.1049 (pause 0.43) 1866.5361 1850 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1866.5361 But 1866.7530 1851 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1866.7530 (pause 0.38) 1867.1334 1852 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1867.1334 you just don't have those. 1868.0910 1853 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1868.0910 (pause 0.40) 1868.4880 1854 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1868.4880 Whereas I can go to work, 1869.3889 1855 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1869.3889 (pause 0.46) 1869.8460 1856 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1869.8460 and not be so 1871.2674 1857 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1871.2674 (pause 0.48) 1871.7445 1858 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1871.7445 like, oh my god, 1872.4594 1859 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1872.4594 (pause 0.44) 1872.8965 1860 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1872.8965 what's going on? And is- is somebody breaking in my h- You know, I don't have to do all of those things. 1876.2030 1861 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1876.2030 (pause 0.44) 1876.6468 1862 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1876.6468 Um, 1877.0438 1863 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1877.0438 (pause 0.88) 1877.9255 1864 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1877.9255 1878.0023 1865 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1878.0023 (pause 0.17) 1878.1724 1866 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1878.1724 it probably was moving to that area 1880.2211 1867 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1880.2211 (pause 0.28) 1880.5047 1868 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1880.5047 that kind of 1881.0919 1869 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1881.0919 (pause 1.50) 1882.5901 1870 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1882.5901 allowed me to process being back home, 1884.9165 1871 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1884.9165 (pause 0.59) 1885.5104 1872 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1885.5104 1885.6005 1873 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1885.6005 (pause 0.10) 1885.6973 1874 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1885.6973 um, 1886.1844 1875 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1886.1844 (pause 0.65) 1886.8317 1876 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1886.8317 without all the distractions. And allowed me to process why some of the people 1890.6654 1877 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1890.6654 (pause 0.64) 1891.3069 1878 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1891.3069 in this area are the way they are 1893.0119 1879 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1893.0119 (pause 0.47) 1893.4857 1880 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1893.4857 and why they're starting- some of them were becoming a product 1895.9280 1881 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1895.9280 (pause 0.25) 1896.1791 1882 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1896.1791 of their environment. 1897.0766 1883 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1897.0766 (pause 1.02) 1898.1010 1884 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1898.1010 It's not necessarily their fault, 1899.3288 1885 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1899.3288 (pause 0.65) 1899.9795 1886 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1899.9795 a lot of times it's the /upbreaking-/ 1901.3341 1887 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1901.3341 (pause 0.25) 1901.5844 1888 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1901.5844 the upbringing 1902.3893 1889 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1902.3893 (pause 0.56) 1902.9532 1890 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1902.9532 and the 1903.7039 1891 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1903.7039 (pause 0.51) 1904.2111 1892 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1904.2111 disallowance 1905.1887 1893 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1905.1887 (pause 0.39) 1905.5824 1894 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1905.5824 of the ability to imagine. 1906.9638 1895 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1906.9638 (pause 0.54) 1907.5010 1896 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1907.5010 You know, 1907.8980 1897 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1907.8980 (pause 1.15) 1909.0500 1898 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1909.0500 in the 1909.7506 1899 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1909.7506 (pause 0.51) 1910.2611 1900 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1910.2611 urban areas that are just more of a struggle to be in, 1912.4666 1901 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1912.4666 (pause 1.12) 1913.5885 1902 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1913.5885 parents are constantly telling 1915.0266 1903 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1915.0266 (pause 0.37) 1915.4003 1904 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1915.4003 their children, 1916.1010 1905 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1916.1010 (pause 0.71) 1916.8083 1906 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1916.8083 stop daydreaming, 1917.7303 1907 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1917.7303 (pause 0.35) 1918.0796 1908 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1918.0796 stop- 1918.3999 1909 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1918.3999 (pause 0.62) 1919.0171 1910 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1919.0171 you know, stop being- stop playing like it's a fairytale, when it really should be the opposite. You should 1923.1153 1911 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1923.1153 (pause 1.04) 1924.1596 1912 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1924.1596 tell your children to daydream all the time. 1925.8980 1913 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1925.8980 (pause 0.50) 1926.3993 1914 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1926.3993 Tell 'em to pretend 1927.4770 1915 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1927.4770 (pause 0.47) 1927.9475 1916 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1927.9475 all the time, cause eventually it's gonna be. 1929.7125 1917 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1929.7125 (pause 0.37) 1930.0862 1918 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1930.0862 The problem is, 1930.8503 1919 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1930.8503 (pause 0.76) 1931.6144 1920 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1931.6144 we want to force them into another 1934.1010 1921 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1934.1010 (pause 0.29) 1934.3913 1922 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1934.3913 mindset and so then they grow up as adults, 1936.1100 1923 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1936.1100 (pause 0.54) 1936.6468 1924 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1936.6468 and it's even worse. 1937.5477 1925 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1937.5477 (pause 0.29) 1937.8421 1926 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1937.8421 And I- it took me some while to not only 1939.7239 1927 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1939.7239 (pause 0.28) 1940.0076 1928 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1940.0076 recognize but appreciate it. 1941.2454 1929 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1941.2454 (pause 0.60) 1941.8460 1930 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1941.8460 And that's what started to slowly 1943.3475 1931 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1943.3475 (pause 0.44) 1943.7879 1932 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1943.7879 but surely 1944.3751 1933 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1944.3751 (pause 0.58) 1944.9599 1934 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1944.9599 change my mindset 1946.1410 1935 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1946.1410 (pause 0.34) 1946.4780 1936 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1946.4780 up until about two years ago. 1947.3956 1937 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1947.3956 (pause 0.35) 1947.7426 1938 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1947.7426 So, 1948.0896 1939 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1948.0896 (pause 0.33) 1948.4191 1940 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1948.4191 /?/ in Forestville was eight years. 1949.6845 1941 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1949.6845 (pause 0.45) 1950.1324 1942 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1950.1324 I was just like, 1950.6763 1943 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1950.6763 (pause 0.73) 1951.4036 1944 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1951.4036 I'm not staying here. 1952.0943 1945 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1952.0943 (pause 0.37) 1952.4647 1946 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1952.4647 It wasn't until I- I felt trapped 1954.2698 1947 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1954.2698 (pause 0.14) 1954.4099 1948 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1954.4099 cause my 1954.9004 1949 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1954.9004 (pause 0.38) 1955.2807 1950 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1955.2807 oldest daughter was in high school and 1956.9932 1951 DCB_int_01 1956.9899 Mm. 1957.2735 1952 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1957.5071 1957.5805 1953 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1957.5805 (pause 0.09) 1957.6706 1954 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1957.6706 doing well. And, 1958.6081 1955 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1958.6081 (pause 0.60) 1959.2121 1956 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1959.2121 you know, I was like, I can't rip her from high school. (laughing) 1961.3908 1957 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1961.3908 (pause 0.42) 1961.8146 1958 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1961.8146 So I said, well when she gets out I'm going, but then I got one four years behind her, so I'm like, dang. 1966.0035 1959 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1966.0035 (pause 0.35) 1966.3498 1960 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1966.3498 Okay, when she get done. 1967.2440 1961 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1967.2440 (pause 0.37) 1967.6144 1962 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1967.6144 And then I have 1968.1316 1963 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1968.1316 (pause 0.53) 1968.6629 1964 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1968.6629 my son, so. 1969.6439 1965 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1969.6439 (pause 0.81) 1970.4580 1966 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1970.4580 It's- it- it was a done deal that I'm not 1972.5700 1967 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1972.5700 (pause 0.68) 1973.2474 1968 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1973.2474 going. And I have one on the way. 1974.2083 1969 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1974.2083 (pause 0.20) 1974.4093 1970 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1974.4093 So I'm not going [anywhere.] 1975.4503 1971 DCB_int_01 1975.3336 [Oh congratulations.] 1977.6992 1972 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1975.8874 [Yeah.] 1976.2968 1973 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1976.2968 (pause 0.24) 1976.5381 1974 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1976.5381 [Thank you.] 1977.0661 1975 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1977.0661 (pause 0.59) 1977.6592 1976 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1977.6592 Thank you. 1978.1552 1977 DCB_int_01 1978.7169 Aw, happy [mommy.] 1980.2298 1978 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1979.3742 [/So-/] 1979.7655 1979 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1979.7655 (pause 0.19) 1979.9514 1980 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1979.9514 [Thank] you. 1980.5687 1981 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1981.0433 So I'm like, I'm- 1981.6806 1982 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1981.6806 (pause 0.59) 1982.2711 1983 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1982.2711 we not going anywhere, 1983.2888 1984 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1983.2888 (pause 0.33) 1983.6191 1985 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1983.6191 so. And I met my love, and so 1985.3074 1986 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1985.3074 (pause 0.43) 1985.7345 1987 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1985.7345 yeah. 1985.9839 1988 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1985.9839 (pause 0.44) 1986.4218 1989 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1986.4218 But even before all that, which I'm glad that even before all that 1989.0552 1990 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1989.0552 (pause 0.38) 1989.4356 1991 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1989.4356 I had already 1990.3732 1992 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1990.3732 (pause 0.80) 1991.1773 1993 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1991.1773 become comfortable 1992.1558 1994 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1992.1558 (pause 0.23) 1992.3893 1995 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1992.3893 in a- in a positive light 1993.8040 1996 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1993.8040 (pause 0.57) 1994.3712 1997 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1994.3712 of being back home. 1995.1086 1998 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1995.1086 (pause 0.74) 1995.8493 1999 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1995.8493 Because 1996.4132 2000 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1996.4132 (pause 0.51) 1996.9204 2001 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1996.9204 you really can't- 1997.8804 2002 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1997.8804 (pause 1.25) 1999.1300 2003 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 1999.1300 I don't recommend people 2000.3846 2004 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2000.3846 (pause 0.39) 2000.7750 2005 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2000.7750 getting into something if they're not 2001.9361 2006 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2001.9361 (pause 0.21) 2002.1463 2007 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2002.1463 sound within themselves first. 2003.8246 2008 DCB_int_01 2003.8780 Mm. 2004.2450 2009 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2004.4260 So, 2004.7830 2010 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2004.7830 (pause 0.77) 2005.5504 2011 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2005.5504 that worked out 2006.2704 2012 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2006.2704 (pause 0.55) 2006.8183 2013 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2006.8183 really well, but it took me about a good eight years 2008.4970 2014 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2008.4970 (pause 0.65) 2009.1506 2015 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2009.1506 before I was like, 2009.9447 2016 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2009.9447 (pause 0.75) 2010.6963 2017 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2010.6963 this is home and- and there's so much 2012.9940 2018 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2012.9940 (pause 0.50) 2013.4957 2019 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2013.4957 substance here. And 2014.7435 2020 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2014.7435 (pause 0.65) 2015.3975 2021 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2015.3975 2015.4776 2022 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2015.4776 (pause 0.10) 2015.5810 2023 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2015.5810 I can't allow other people's disposition to determine what a- you know, how I'm feeling about where I'm from 2020.2431 2024 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2020.2431 (pause 0.67) 2020.9171 2025 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2020.9171 and where I'm at. 2021.5110 2026 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2021.5110 (pause 0.27) 2021.7779 2027 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2021.7779 Cause there's so- that's a small group 2023.3636 2028 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2023.3636 (pause 0.31) 2023.6706 2029 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2023.6706 when you look at the masses. 2024.6715 2030 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2024.6715 (pause 0.54) 2025.2154 2031 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2025.2154 There's so m- many opportunities 2027.2515 2032 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2027.2515 (pause 0.53) 2027.7812 2033 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2027.7812 right here. 2028.1449 2034 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2028.1449 (pause 0.45) 2028.5928 2035 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2028.5928 /Have/ remind myself people travel the world 2030.3078 2036 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2030.3078 (pause 0.11) 2030.4180 2037 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2030.4180 to come here. 2031.1120 2038 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2031.1120 (pause 1.22) 2032.3331 2039 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2032.3331 People travel the world, they can tell me more about my city than I can, because all I can tell them about is the bricks. 2036.3813 2040 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2036.3813 (pause 0.73) 2037.1120 2041 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2037.1120 I can't tell them about 2038.1363 2042 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2038.1363 (pause 0.24) 2038.3799 2043 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2038.3799 the museums and the- the other exhibits and things when I should be able to, 2042.2578 2044 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2042.2578 (pause 0.50) 2042.7616 2045 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2042.7616 you know. 2043.1253 2046 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2043.1253 (pause 0.81) 2043.9394 2047 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2043.9394 You know, my family in DR they're like, oh you- you go visit la casa blanca? No. 2046.9365 2048 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2046.9365 (pause 0.67) 2047.6038 2049 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2047.6038 What do you mean? 2048.1577 2050 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2048.1577 (pause 0.37) 2048.5314 2051 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2048.5314 They're like- (laughing) 2048.9407 2052 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2048.9407 (pause 0.40) 2049.3455 2053 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2049.3455 I'm like, w- 2049.8293 2054 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2049.8293 (pause 0.35) 2050.1763 2055 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2050.1763 what makes you think- But I should. 2051.3842 2056 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2051.3842 (pause 0.53) 2051.9122 2057 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2051.9122 You know, so 2052.4360 2058 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2052.4360 (pause 0.44) 2052.8798 2059 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2052.8798 all of these luxuries I have right here. People have spent big money to come way over here for it. 2056.9871 2060 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2056.9871 (pause 1.10) 2058.0823 2061 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2058.0823 So. 2058.3660 2062 DCB_int_01 2058.9031 So you're never a tourist in your own backyard? 2060.6215 2063 DCB_int_01 2060.6215 (pause 0.44) 2061.0586 2064 DCB_int_01 2061.0586 Or you haven't been? 2061.6859 2065 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2062.0963 Only because of work. 2063.8256 2066 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2063.8256 (pause 0.47) 2064.2992 2067 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2064.2992 Not because- 2065.2468 2068 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2065.2468 (pause 0.55) 2065.7940 2069 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2065.7940 And I need to, 2066.5848 2070 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2066.5848 (pause 0.24) 2066.8217 2071 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2066.8217 which I should, because 2067.8660 2072 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2067.8660 (pause 0.70) 2068.5634 2073 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2068.5634 my, um, 2069.4876 2074 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2069.4876 (pause 0.23) 2069.7212 2075 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2069.7212 fiance is from Washington state. 2071.2368 2076 DCB_int_01 2071.7506 Mm. 2071.9975 2077 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2072.0543 Small, small, teeny town called Steptoe, 2074.7302 2078 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2074.7302 (pause 0.66) 2075.3942 2079 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2075.3942 Washington. 2076.0014 2080 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2076.0014 (pause 0.43) 2076.4294 2081 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2076.4294 And he is super white 2077.7340 2082 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2077.7340 (pause 0.57) 2078.3045 2083 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2078.3045 and we super opposite which is so funny. 2080.7502 2084 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2080.7502 (pause 0.57) 2081.3241 2085 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2081.3241 Um, 2081.9714 2086 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2081.9714 (pause 0.28) 2082.2492 2087 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2082.2492 he teaches me so much because I'm like, what do you mean, 2084.6415 2088 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2084.6415 (pause 0.22) 2084.8651 2089 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2084.8651 what is sun tea? I thought that was a brand, it's like, you actually put it in the sun and make tea, I didn't know. 2088.7897 2090 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2088.7897 (pause 0.49) 2089.2802 2091 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2089.2802 So, 2089.6205 2092 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2089.6205 (pause 0.21) 2089.8307 2093 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2089.8307 I'm like- he's like, how you make tea on the stove. 2091.3655 2094 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2091.3655 (pause 0.55) 2091.9161 2095 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2091.9161 So, 2092.2898 2096 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2092.2898 (pause 0.24) 2092.5333 2097 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2092.5333 his- um, 2093.1473 2098 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2093.1473 (pause 0.82) 2093.9714 2099 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2093.9714 he will give me a good excuse 2095.6238 2100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2095.6238 (pause 0.33) 2095.9542 2101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2095.9542 to really 2096.6515 2102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2096.6515 (pause 0.53) 2097.1854 2103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2097.1854 go out 2097.6658 2104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2097.6658 (pause 0.57) 2098.2331 2105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2098.2331 and tour and see things but little will he know, I'm learning too. 2102.0676 2106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2102.0676 (pause 0.80) 2102.8651 2107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2102.8651 And I'm from here. 2103.5657 2108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2103.5657 (pause 0.65) 2104.2130 2109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2104.2130 But that's just- that's the luxuries that 2106.0348 2110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2106.0348 (pause 0.78) 2106.8197 2111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2106.8197 we- 2107.4337 2112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2107.4337 (pause 0.20) 2107.6372 2113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2107.6372 I think we take advantage of. 2108.7483 2114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2108.7483 (pause 0.82) 2109.5691 2115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2109.5691 There's so much history here 2110.7602 2116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2110.7602 (pause 0.57) 2111.3275 2117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2111.3275 in Maryland, Virginia, and DC. 2113.3169 2118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2113.3169 (pause 0.54) 2113.8574 2119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2113.8574 So much 2114.7816 2120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2114.7816 (pause 0.46) 2115.2454 2121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2115.2454 history back to the seventeen hundreds 2117.4309 2122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2117.4309 (pause 0.31) 2117.7387 2123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2117.7387 that- um, and I love history, 2119.2635 2124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2119.2635 (pause 0.76) 2120.0276 2125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2120.0276 that, uh, is right here in your- in our backyard, like 2122.3765 2126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2122.3765 (pause 0.45) 2122.8236 2127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2122.8236 right here. 2123.3141 2128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2123.3141 (pause 0.48) 2123.7954 2129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2123.7954 We got people that come from China to see this. 2126.1477 2130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2126.1477 (pause 0.20) 2126.3479 2131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2126.3479 We know cause they won't get out the street. 2127.9061 2132 DCB_int_01 2128.9504 Sounds like you almost hit somebody, sounds like you almost hit somebody. (whispered) 2131.6311 2133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2132.1444 On purpose because you- why are you walking in the street (laughing) 2134.5033 2134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2134.5033 (pause 0.86) 2135.3642 2135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2135.3642 like this (laughing) 2136.3585 2136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2136.3585 (pause 0.42) 2136.7797 2137 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2136.7797 with a camera? What are you taking pictures of the clouds for? You got clouds in China? 2139.6558 2138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2139.6558 (pause 0.47) 2140.1296 2139 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2140.1296 Like what y'all doing? Just crazy. (laughing) 2142.6220 2140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2142.6220 (pause 0.71) 2143.3369 2141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2143.3369 So, um, but it's- it's just- 2144.7434 2142 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2144.7434 (pause 0.77) 2145.5124 2143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2145.5124 it's a beautiful thing, so. 2146.9371 2144 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2146.9371 (pause 0.38) 2147.3141 2145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2147.3141 I appreciate home 2148.2951 2146 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2148.2951 (pause 0.51) 2148.8030 2147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2148.8030 now. 2149.1537 2148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2149.1537 (pause 0.54) 2149.6973 2149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2149.6973 Now when I go places I appreciate those places and I come back and appreciate home. 2153.1406 2150 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2153.1406 (pause 0.70) 2153.8379 2151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2153.8379 Period. 2154.2353 2152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2154.2353 (pause 0.79) 2155.0233 2153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2155.0233 So yeah. 2155.4103 2154 DCB_int_01 2155.7707 Are you still- so do you still live in- you live in Waldorf, now? 2158.5520 2155 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2158.6001 Uh-huh. 2158.9441 2156 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2158.9441 (pause 0.40) 2159.3475 2157 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2159.3475 I won't leave. 2160.1149 2158 DCB_int_01 2160.3726 Does mommy still live here? 2161.4537 2159 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2161.7473 Mm-hm. 2162.0500 2160 DCB_int_01 2162.0276 In- in the District? 2162.9551 2161 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2162.9652 She's in Fort Washington. 2163.9861 2162 DCB_int_01 2164.2364 Okay. 2164.6924 2163 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2164.7602 Uh-huh. 2165.0539 2164 DCB_int_01 2165.0171 Oh, 2165.2907 2165 DCB_int_01 2165.4476 she's right- she- so right over the line. 2167.2362 2166 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2167.2869 [Mm-hm.] 2167.5871 2167 DCB_int_01 2167.4937 [So] y- whole [family-] 2168.5177 2168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2168.0876 [But she closer] to- 2168.9451 2169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2169.0719 to the Waldorf side because she's on two ten. 2171.5543 2170 DCB_int_01 2171.6119 She's on two ten so she's down [some.] 2173.0366 2171 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2172.7296 [Yeah], she's on- but she's on /RD-ADDRESS-5/ so she's closer to 2176.0162 2172 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2176.6067 just keep it on two ten, two twenty-eight right there. 2178.3184 2173 DCB_int_01 2178.6629 Gotcha. 2179.0056 2174 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2179.0600 Yeah. 2179.3703 2175 DCB_int_01 2179.3236 Gotcha. 2179.6929 2176 DCB_int_01 2180.3512 So let me ask you this, so this is just a random question cause you've done a lot of things, you've experienced a lot of things. Was there ever a time you felt like, oh my god this is it, I'm gonna die? 2187.0285 2177 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2187.4089 Mm-mm. 2187.6892 2178 DCB_int_01 2188.3398 You never felt that way? You never felt like you were in danger 2190.6629 2179 DCB_int_01 2190.6629 (pause 0.19) 2190.8531 2180 DCB_int_01 2190.8531 of you losing your life? 2191.6572 2181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2191.8474 Mm-mm. 2192.2244 2182 DCB_int_01 2193.1186 Hm. 2193.4053 2183 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2193.4590 No. 2193.8293 2184 DCB_int_01 2194.9538 Cause you like to fight. 2195.7111 2185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2196.7663 No, I don't even like to fight. 2198.4446 2186 DCB_int_01 2198.6081 I mean, but you [will fight.] 2199.6358 2187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2199.0652 [I had to fight] 2200.0279 2188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2200.8036 growing up. But, um, 2202.5561 2189 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2202.5561 (pause 0.33) 2202.8831 2190 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2202.8831 I just don't- 2203.3245 2191 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2203.3245 (pause 0.32) 2203.6472 2192 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2203.6472 no. 2203.9579 2193 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2203.9579 (pause 0.87) 2204.8317 2194 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2204.8317 I never felt like that, not even being in the military, not even being 2207.7445 2195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2207.7445 (pause 0.55) 2208.2992 2196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2208.2992 in, um, war zones. 2210.1343 2197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2210.1343 (pause 0.75) 2210.8884 2198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2210.8884 I just didn't feel like it. It's like, you have a job to do and get it done, get out of here. 2213.3775 2199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2213.3775 (pause 0.67) 2214.0448 2200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2214.0448 Like I didn't really feel like it. 2215.1434 2201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2215.1434 (pause 0.57) 2215.7173 2202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2215.7173 I mean, I had friends that felt that way. 2217.3689 2203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2217.3689 (pause 0.84) 2218.2097 2204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2218.2097 And, uh, you just want them to snap out of it like (laughing) we got something to do, you know. 2221.9775 2205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2221.9775 (pause 0.59) 2222.5648 2206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2222.5648 Um, 2223.0586 2207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2223.0586 (pause 0.39) 2223.4523 2208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2223.4523 I'm trying to think. 2224.0696 2209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2224.0696 (pause 0.63) 2224.7035 2210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2224.7035 No. 2225.1439 2211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2225.1439 (pause 0.78) 2225.9214 2212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2225.9214 I've probably only been in two car accidents my entire life. 2228.5881 2213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2228.5881 (pause 0.90) 2229.4923 2214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2229.4923 Never felt like it then I just wanted to be like, I hope they got insurance, but I never felt like it then. (laughing) 2234.5881 2215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2234.5881 (pause 0.61) 2235.2020 2216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2235.2020 Um, I felt like 2236.2364 2217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2236.2364 (pause 0.51) 2236.7435 2218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2236.7435 people around me 2237.6711 2219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2237.6711 (pause 0.30) 2237.9714 2220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2237.9714 was about to die. 2238.7230 2221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2238.7230 (pause 0.18) 2238.9065 2222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2238.9065 Because they sitting in a burning car 2240.4813 2223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2240.4813 (pause 0.30) 2240.7816 2224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2240.7816 and didn't get out. 2241.3922 2225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2241.3922 (pause 0.84) 2242.2364 2226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2242.2364 And I'm like, they gonna die. 2243.2173 2227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2243.2173 (pause 0.47) 2243.6878 2228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2243.6878 So I felt like that. But I- but that was older 2246.3779 2229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2246.3779 (pause 0.51) 2246.8884 2230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2246.8884 and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that 2249.1740 2231 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2249.1740 (pause 0.17) 2249.3475 2232 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2249.3475 I worked around a lot of dead people. 2250.6087 2233 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2250.6087 (pause 1.43) 2252.0342 2234 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2252.0342 And I worked arou- a lot around that environment and you /?/ couldn't really have any emotion. 2255.5777 2235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2255.5777 (pause 0.57) 2256.1524 2236 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2256.1524 You really couldn't cause you would just go crazy. 2258.2711 2237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2258.2711 (pause 0.68) 2258.9551 2238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2258.9551 And the people who did didn't last, not even a month. 2261.3834 2239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2261.3834 (pause 0.43) 2261.8179 2240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2261.8179 They would go crazy, and it's understandable. 2263.3102 2241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2263.3102 (pause 0.62) 2263.9275 2242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2263.9275 You see everything. It's not all pretty and clean like, 2266.3532 2243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2266.3532 (pause 0.57) 2266.9204 2244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2266.9204 old people having a heart attack. It's 2268.1282 2245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2268.1282 (pause 0.70) 2268.8264 2246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2268.8264 people flat like a pancake. 2270.3712 2247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2270.3712 (pause 0.98) 2271.3522 2248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2271.3522 And you're expected to bring them back, 2273.6177 2249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2273.6177 (pause 0.22) 2273.8379 2250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2273.8379 m- like, make 'em look good to 2275.3202 2251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2275.3202 (pause 0.56) 2275.8841 2252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2275.8841 be seen with their family. And it's- then I have to be the one saying, but do you guys have a picture? 2278.9938 2253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2278.9938 (pause 0.49) 2279.4876 2254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2279.4876 Cause that's what you're gonna need. 2280.3384 2255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2280.3384 (pause 0.22) 2280.5628 2256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2280.5628 You gonna need a picture. 2281.3035 2257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2281.3035 (pause 2.11) 2283.4123 2258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2283.4123 Yeah. 2283.7922 2259 DCB_int_01 2286.3518 Like, 2286.6362 2260 DCB_int_01 2286.6362 (pause 1.24) 2287.8808 2261 DCB_int_01 2287.8808 so your job, it's like you're an artist. Like, 2289.7818 2262 DCB_int_01 2289.7818 (pause 0.22) 2289.9995 2263 DCB_int_01 2289.9995 I mean, but 2290.4355 2264 DCB_int_01 2290.4355 (pause 0.40) 2290.8336 2265 DCB_int_01 2290.8336 a miracle- 2291.4376 2266 DCB_int_01 2291.4376 (pause 0.78) 2292.2217 2267 DCB_int_01 2292.2217 [I guess I] just don't understand that wor- 2294.1811 2268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2292.2392 [Mm.] 2292.6963 2269 DCB_int_01 2294.4947 [Wow.] (whispered) 2294.8374 2270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2294.6749 [The world.] Well we used to have a guy, he's- he's passed away now, 2297.4476 2271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2297.9280 um, he was a civilian that actually ran the mortuary, Mr. /RD-NAME-3/. 2300.7116 2272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2300.7116 (pause 0.45) 2301.1587 2273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2301.1587 Uh, really feisty Italian man, I loved him. 2303.6444 2274 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2303.6444 (pause 0.41) 2304.0590 2275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2304.0590 Um, he really- he's like such a super 2307.3989 2276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2307.3989 (pause 0.55) 2307.9528 2277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2307.9528 patriot. 2308.7068 2278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2308.7068 (pause 0.42) 2309.1273 2279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2309.1273 He- um, 2309.8139 2280 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2309.8139 (pause 0.61) 2310.4218 2281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2310.4218 you know, he's like, these are American soldiers, we need to try to 2312.9418 2282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2312.9418 (pause 0.19) 2313.1286 2283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2313.1286 make them look good so their families can see them one last time. 2316.3151 2284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2316.3151 (pause 0.50) 2316.8197 2285 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2316.8197 So he would try everything, I mean, you could just be like, flat like a pancake and he would try 2321.1973 2286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2321.1973 (pause 0.59) 2321.7912 2287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2321.7912 to do everything to work with our, 2323.8774 2288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2323.8774 (pause 0.23) 2324.1077 2289 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2324.1077 uh, structural department, I did reconstructions, 2326.7169 2290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2326.7169 (pause 0.42) 2327.1406 2291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2327.1406 to get them back looking decent. 2329.1033 2292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2329.1033 (pause 0.27) 2329.3736 2293 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2329.3736 But there was lots of times we could not, like when the USS, um, 2332.8670 2294 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2332.8670 (pause 0.27) 2333.1373 2295 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2333.1373 Cole 2333.6678 2296 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2333.6678 (pause 0.14) 2333.8121 2297 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2333.8121 got blown up, the Navy ship. 2335.2535 2298 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2335.2535 (pause 0.83) 2336.0810 2299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2336.0810 Um, 2336.4947 2300 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2336.4947 (pause 0.21) 2336.7082 2301 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2336.7082 nothing you can do with them, 2338.1096 2302 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2338.1096 (pause 0.36) 2338.4666 2303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2338.4666 some of them, most of them. 2339.5977 2304 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2339.5977 (pause 0.46) 2340.0557 2305 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2340.0557 Um, lot of victims coming back from Pentagon, nine eleven, stuff like that, 2343.9962 2306 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2343.9962 (pause 0.17) 2344.1630 2307 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2344.1630 2344.2397 2308 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2344.2397 (pause 0.15) 2344.3865 2309 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2344.3865 nothing you can really do with them. 2345.5744 2310 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2345.5744 (pause 0.68) 2346.2592 2311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2346.2592 Um, 2346.9499 2312 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2346.9499 (pause 0.54) 2347.4937 2313 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2347.4937 so we would be like, Mr. /RD-NAME-3/, there's nothing we can do with them. 2350.4866 2314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2350.4866 (pause 0.44) 2350.9304 2315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2350.9304 And he would just be so upset, but he knew that it was- 2353.0700 2316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2353.0700 (pause 0.20) 2353.2735 2317 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2353.2735 it was nothing you could really do. 2354.3012 2318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2354.3012 (pause 0.53) 2354.8350 2319 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2354.8350 So then it would be my job to 2356.3198 2320 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2356.3198 (pause 0.41) 2356.7302 2321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2356.7302 talk to the families. 2357.7479 2322 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2357.7479 (pause 0.30) 2358.0456 2323 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2358.0456 2358.1057 2324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2358.1057 (pause 0.39) 2358.4961 2325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2358.4961 And, um, 2359.6572 2326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2359.6572 (pause 0.62) 2360.2812 2327 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2360.2812 obviously they know what happened already, 2361.7526 2328 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2361.7526 (pause 0.59) 2362.3432 2329 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2362.3432 but to let them know that we're not gonna be able to have open casket, do you have a picture? 2365.6845 2330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2365.6845 (pause 1.33) 2367.0119 2331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2367.0119 You know, and of course they're 2368.2698 2332 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2368.2698 (pause 0.90) 2369.1706 2333 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2369.1706 boohoo crying, but 2370.3459 2334 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2370.3459 (pause 0.13) 2370.4727 2335 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2370.4727 I just wanted to know do you have a picture. 2371.5271 2336 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2371.5271 (pause 0.52) 2372.0509 2337 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2372.0509 Cause we need to 2372.7283 2338 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2372.7283 (pause 0.33) 2373.0619 2339 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2373.0619 put your package together. But then y'all can go finish 2374.7636 2340 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2374.7636 (pause 0.54) 2375.3074 2341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2375.3074 boohoo crying 2375.8646 2342 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2375.8646 (pause 0.24) 2376.1082 2343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2376.1082 over there. 2376.5175 2344 DCB_int_01 2377.5404 So you dealt with the families of nine eleven? 2379.6231 2345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2380.1430 [Of every-] everything/ 2381.0505 2346 DCB_int_01 2380.2097 [Like-] 2380.4499 2347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2381.8279 Yeah. 2382.2283 2348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2382.2283 (pause 1.29) 2383.5171 2349 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2383.5171 Everything. 2383.9557 2350 DCB_int_01 2386.1596 Wow. (whispered) 2386.4796 2351 DCB_int_01 2386.4796 (pause 0.76) 2387.2407 2352 DCB_int_01 2387.2407 Y- so, clearly I'm not the one, I would not last in that [environment. Clearly] 2391.1286 2353 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2389.9408 [] 2390.9251 2354 DCB_int_01 2391.5390 I'm not th- that's not [a job for me.] 2393.3092 2355 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2392.4933 [Yeah.] 2393.0805 2356 DCB_int_01 2394.2258 Um, so let me- 2395.1868 2357 DCB_int_01 2395.1868 (pause 0.19) 2395.3803 2358 DCB_int_01 2395.3803 let me 2395.7473 2359 DCB_int_01 2395.7473 (pause 0.47) 2396.2144 2360 DCB_int_01 2396.2144 ask about something else. So do you consider yourself a DC girl? 2399.7178 2361 DCB_int_01 2399.7178 (pause 0.20) 2399.9180 2362 DCB_int_01 2399.9180 Like, 2400.1954 2363 DCB_int_01 2400.1954 (pause 1.47) 2401.6606 2364 DCB_int_01 2401.6606 even before you left and you didn't- Do you consider yourself like, 2404.2197 2365 DCB_int_01 2404.2197 (pause 0.38) 2404.6034 2366 DCB_int_01 2404.6034 DC girl? Like, love DC culture, a DC [girl.] 2407.2051 2367 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2404.9704 2405.0205 2368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2405.0205 (pause 1.81) 2406.8331 2369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2406.8331 [Definitely] love DC culture. 2408.5414 2370 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2409.0452 Even though I was like, 2410.5100 2371 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2410.5100 (pause 0.39) 2410.9004 2372 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2410.9004 ugh, no 2411.7746 2373 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2411.7746 (pause 0.19) 2411.9614 2374 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2411.9614 for a while. (laughing) 2412.7063 2375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2412.7063 (pause 0.55) 2413.2535 2376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2413.2535 Um, but definitely. I mean, cause even when I was away, 2416.2230 2377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2416.2230 (pause 0.29) 2416.5133 2378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2416.5133 where you from? DC. 2417.4542 2379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2417.4542 (pause 0.52) 2417.9756 2380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2417.9756 Proudly. 2418.6562 2381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2418.6562 (pause 0.50) 2419.1534 2382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2419.1534 Come back home and was like, I need /unintelligible/ 2421.2821 2383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2421.2821 (pause 0.27) 2421.5491 2384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2421.5491 or whatever, so it was just (laughing) 2422.9104 2385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2422.9104 (pause 0.47) 2423.3775 2386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2423.3775 so- 2424.0215 2387 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2424.0215 (pause 0.39) 2424.4118 2388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2424.4118 Yeah. 2424.8012 2389 DCB_int_01 2425.3135 Did you go to- did you listen to go go music? 2426.9415 2390 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2427.1487 Mm-hm. 2427.4356 2391 DCB_int_01 2427.7960 What's your favorite- [did you have a] favorite band? 2429.3942 2392 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2428.4032 [I hate-] 2428.8072 2393 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2428.8072 (pause 0.57) 2429.3808 2394 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2429.3808 No. 2429.7612 2395 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2430.6629 First of all, I can only listen to go go music for five minutes, and that's how long the song should be. 2434.6268 2396 DCB_int_01 2435.1557 2435.7208 2397 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2435.9080 No longer than five minutes. 2437.0566 2398 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2437.0566 (pause 0.66) 2437.7173 2399 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2437.7173 Okay, I would be like, 2438.7746 2400 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2438.7746 (pause 0.46) 2439.2388 2401 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2439.2388 I'm tired. 2439.9561 2402 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2439.9561 (pause 0.50) 2440.4599 2403 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2440.4599 Okay this has been gym 2441.8012 2404 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2441.8012 (pause 0.59) 2442.3960 2405 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2442.3960 time, so. (laughing) 2443.3035 2406 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2443.3035 (pause 0.52) 2443.8274 2407 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2443.8274 I like- I don't like today's go go. 2445.5157 2408 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2445.5157 (pause 0.53) 2446.0429 2409 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2446.0429 I don't listen to today's go go at all, 2447.6611 2410 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2447.6611 (pause 0.38) 2448.0381 2411 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2448.0381 unless it's like, 2448.7030 2412 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2448.7030 (pause 0.40) 2449.1033 2413 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2449.1033 Rare Essence, 2449.9775 2414 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2449.9775 (pause 0.47) 2450.4446 2415 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2450.4446 um, 2450.9752 2416 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2450.9752 (pause 1.00) 2451.9728 2417 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2451.9728 Groovers. Groovers to me is still 2453.8528 2418 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2453.8528 (pause 1.16) 2455.0099 2419 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2455.0099 a newer- 2455.6839 2420 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2455.6839 (pause 0.91) 2456.5948 2421 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2456.5948 Cause Rare Essence and 2458.1530 2422 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2458.1530 (pause 0.43) 2458.5834 2423 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2458.5834 EU, 2459.1840 2424 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2459.1840 (pause 0.61) 2459.7912 2425 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2459.7912 and who else? 2460.7797 2426 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2460.7797 (pause 0.50) 2461.2835 2427 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2461.2835 I'm missing one. 2462.0348 2428 DCB_int_01 2462.1477 Backyard. 2462.9730 2429 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2463.3956 Backyard, Rare Essence, EU, 2464.9471 2430 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2464.9471 (pause 0.51) 2465.4609 2431 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2465.4609 there's [one more.] 2466.0515 2432 DCB_int_01 2465.6878 [North-] Northeast? 2466.6821 2433 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2468.4113 That's Groovers. 2469.1551 2434 DCB_int_01 2469.9127 Oh you said Groovers, you [said Groovers.] 2471.3408 2435 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2470.7602 [Um,] 2471.1806 2436 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2471.6111 Those three are like, 2472.7764 2437 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2472.7764 (pause 0.45) 2473.2301 2438 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2473.2301 the original 2474.0643 2439 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2474.0643 (pause 0.50) 2474.5648 2440 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2474.5648 battle bands to me. 2475.5557 2441 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2475.5557 (pause 0.54) 2476.0929 2442 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2476.0929 And then Groovers came 2477.4643 2443 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2477.4643 (pause 0.31) 2477.7712 2444 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2477.7712 right after, and then all these 2478.9332 2445 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2478.9332 (pause 0.46) 2479.3936 2446 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2479.3936 other ones and I'm like, I c- I quit. 2481.1487 2447 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2481.1487 (pause 0.47) 2481.6191 2448 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2481.6191 But, um, 2482.5167 2449 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2482.5167 (pause 0.21) 2482.7302 2450 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2482.7302 2482.7969 2451 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2482.7969 (pause 0.65) 2483.4509 2452 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2483.4509 yeah, I like Pleasure, the all girl band 2485.7606 2453 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2485.7606 (pause 0.63) 2486.3946 2454 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2486.3946 when they was around. 2487.2721 2455 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2487.2721 (pause 0.36) 2487.6291 2456 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2487.6291 You remember Pleasure? 2488.3432 2457 DCB_int_01 2488.5067 Mm-mm. 2488.9204 2458 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2489.1740 Remember when- Yes cause they went on to tour with Salt-n-Pepa, they became Salt-n-Pepa's all-girl band. 2493.5224 2459 DCB_int_01 2494.2130 Mm-mm. 2495.0238 2460 DCB_int_01 2495.0238 (pause 0.71) 2495.7312 2461 DCB_int_01 2495.7312 Okay, I'm sor- I'm'a look- you know what, I'm gonna go back to my desk, I'm'a look 'em up. 2498.9885 2462 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2499.2054 Pleasure was DC's all-girl band. Oh my god, 2503.0032 2463 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2503.0032 (pause 0.54) 2503.5471 2464 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2503.5471 they was some trail blazers. Then another girl band came out, we was like, sit down. 2506.9704 2465 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2506.9704 (pause 0.40) 2507.3742 2466 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2507.3742 Pleasure was 2508.1749 2467 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2508.1749 (pause 0.39) 2508.5662 2468 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2508.5662 the all-girl band. 2509.3169 2469 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2509.3169 (pause 0.43) 2509.7440 2470 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2509.7440 And then they went on to- um, 2511.3088 2471 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2511.3088 (pause 0.45) 2511.7593 2472 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2511.7593 Salt-n-Pepa picked them up. 2512.8352 2473 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2512.8352 (pause 0.35) 2513.1806 2474 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2513.1806 And you know the, um, 2514.0482 2475 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2514.0482 (pause 0.44) 2514.4927 2476 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2514.4927 Shake Your Thang, that was EU. 2516.0810 2477 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2516.0810 (pause 0.29) 2516.3712 2478 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2516.3712 Um, 2516.9451 2479 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2516.9451 (pause 0.22) 2517.1620 2480 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2517.1620 2517.2588 2481 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2517.2588 (pause 0.52) 2517.7826 2482 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2517.7826 Express Yourself 2519.1773 2483 DCB_int_01 2519.2507 [Mm-hm.] 2519.6444 2484 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2519.4909 [by] Salt-n-Pepa, that's Pleasure. 2520.7016 2485 DCB_int_01 2520.9065 Okay. 2521.2568 2486 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2521.2335 That's what I say, we got a all-girl band, that's- 2522.7650 2487 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2523.1387 that's Pleasure and- playing for them. And, um, 2525.2040 2488 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2525.2040 (pause 0.34) 2525.5410 2489 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2525.5410 it was another 2526.4452 2490 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2526.4452 (pause 0.46) 2526.9065 2491 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2526.9065 song, but they went on to be with Salt-n-Pepa. 2528.4502 2492 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2528.4502 (pause 0.96) 2529.4089 2493 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2529.4089 Um, and then they broke up. 2530.4528 2494 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2530.4528 (pause 1.19) 2531.6478 2495 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2531.6478 But- um, 2532.4027 2496 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2532.4027 (pause 0.32) 2532.7263 2497 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2532.7263 so Pleasure. 2533.4136 2498 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2533.4136 (pause 0.57) 2533.9809 2499 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2533.9809 And- but today's go go? Mm-mm. 2535.4590 2500 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2535.4590 (pause 1.02) 2536.4766 2501 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2536.4766 No, who did Work the Walls? Was that Rare Essence? 2538.4652 2502 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2538.4652 (pause 2.28) 2540.7416 2503 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2540.7416 [Anyway.] 2541.1296 2504 DCB_int_01 2540.8450 [I'm not a] go go connis- Did you go to go gos? 2542.7135 2505 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2542.8570 Oh yeah, I did. 2543.7879 2506 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2543.7879 (pause 0.38) 2544.1683 2507 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2544.1683 My mother stopped letting me go, though. 2545.2902 2508 DCB_int_01 2545.8641 She stopped? 2546.3279 2509 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2546.9885 I was getting in trouble, so 2547.9528 2510 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2547.9528 (pause 0.27) 2548.2230 2511 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2548.2230 [I couldn't go.] 2548.6564 2512 DCB_int_01 2548.2297 [You were getting] in trouble? 2549.0697 2513 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2549.2674 Yeah, I couldn't go no more. [] 2550.8164 2514 DCB_int_01 2550.7063 [Wow.] Did [you-] 2551.7707 2515 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2551.5004 [] 2551.8808 2516 DCB_int_01 2552.0576 did you- you repped your neighborhood? 2553.3222 2517 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2553.6458 2553.7392 2518 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2553.7392 (pause 0.22) 2553.9628 2519 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2553.9628 No, 2554.1930 2520 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2554.1930 (pause 0.27) 2554.4599 2521 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2554.4599 not really. 2554.8503 2522 DCB_int_01 2554.9838 Oh. 2555.1673 2523 DCB_int_01 2555.1673 (pause 0.08) 2555.2440 2524 DCB_int_01 2555.2440 Cause you had a lot [of neighborhoods.] 2556.5762 2525 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2555.7287 [I was- yeah, I was like everywhere.] 2556.9220 2526 DCB_int_01 2557.2101 Right. 2557.4537 2527 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2557.4203 Everybody knew our family, like all over. 2559.4790 2528 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2559.7426 So we were like, everywhere. 2560.6435 2529 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2560.6435 (pause 0.53) 2561.1706 2530 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2561.1706 I didn't really get into like, rep- I couldn't. I mean, 2563.0166 2531 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2563.0166 (pause 0.37) 2563.3870 2532 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2563.3870 /What I'm'a do/ Simple City, Simple City and Eastgate beef, but I be around both areas (laughing) 2566.8236 2533 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2566.8236 (pause 0.34) 2567.1640 2534 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2567.1640 all the [time, so.] 2568.0114 2535 DCB_int_01 2567.3742 [Mm.] 2568.3017 2536 DCB_int_01 2568.9932 What- um, 2569.7973 2537 DCB_int_01 2569.7973 (pause 0.27) 2570.0709 2538 DCB_int_01 2570.0709 what- um, 2571.0416 2539 DCB_int_01 2571.0416 (pause 1.30) 2572.3398 2540 DCB_int_01 2572.3398 did you eat mumbo sauce? 2573.1907 2541 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2573.5343 2573.6010 2542 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2573.6010 (pause 0.20) 2573.7979 2543 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2573.7979 Yeah. 2574.3251 2544 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2574.3251 (pause 0.11) 2574.4360 2545 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2574.4360 Do I eat mumbo sauce 2575.6005 2546 DCB_int_01 2575.6205 Oh, currently. 2576.1977 2547 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2576.3045 is a better question, yeah. 2577.5958 2548 DCB_int_01 2577.5691 Where do you get your mumbo sauce from? 2578.7169 2549 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2578.6234 2578.6868 2550 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2579.0071 Oh my gosh, so now mumbo sauce, it used to be just a DC thing, but Chicago will argue. 2582.9351 2551 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2582.9351 (pause 0.41) 2583.3422 2552 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2583.3422 But it used to be just a DC thing. 2584.9471 2553 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2584.9471 (pause 0.16) 2585.1072 2554 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2585.1072 2585.1673 2555 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2585.1673 (pause 0.20) 2585.3675 2556 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2585.3675 Um, 2586.0181 2557 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2586.0181 (pause 0.86) 2586.8798 2558 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2586.8798 but 2587.2768 2559 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2587.2768 (pause 0.51) 2587.7907 2560 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2587.7907 it definitely branched out into PG 2589.3655 2561 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2589.3655 (pause 0.59) 2589.9528 2562 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2589.9528 even way back 2590.6034 2563 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2590.6034 (pause 0.25) 2590.8537 2564 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2590.8537 when I was a little kid. 2591.7579 2565 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2591.7579 (pause 0.43) 2592.1925 2566 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2592.1925 But now, Waldorf 2593.2335 2567 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2593.2335 (pause 0.82) 2594.0553 2568 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2594.0553 /comes to me,/ everything's right there. 2595.2910 2569 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2595.2910 (pause 0.66) 2595.9528 2570 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2595.9528 Um, 2596.5133 2571 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2596.5133 (pause 0.32) 2596.8303 2572 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2596.8303 Saint Mary's by far does not have mumbo sauce. 2599.5104 2573 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2599.5104 (pause 0.46) 2599.9709 2574 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2599.9709 Okay, [they-] 2600.5229 2575 DCB_int_01 2600.3145 [Okay], mm. 2600.9018 2576 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2600.8617 I asked them for mumbo sauce, they gave me ketchup. 2602.3364 2577 DCB_int_01 2605.5905 I'm sorry that you had to experience that traumatic [experience.] 2607.8760 2578 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2607.7226 [I] looked at it, I said this pretty dark. 2609.1940 2579 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2610.0448 I was like, mm I don't need ketchup. 2611.9875 2580 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2611.9875 (pause 0.69) 2612.6782 2581 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2612.6782 So yeah, they- they don't know about it. So I would say, 2614.5734 2582 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2614.5734 (pause 0.30) 2614.8703 2583 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2614.8703 Charles County is the furthest. 2616.5577 2584 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2616.5577 (pause 0.78) 2617.3336 2585 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2617.3336 Baltimore, 2618.3212 2586 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2618.3212 (pause 0.59) 2618.9084 2587 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2618.9084 they don't really know what you're talking about. 2619.8551 2588 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2619.8551 (pause 0.66) 2620.5200 2589 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2620.5200 Um, 2621.0338 2590 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2621.0338 (pause 0.27) 2621.3008 2591 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2621.3008 we don't claim Baltimore by the way. 2622.4670 2592 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2622.4670 (pause 0.41) 2622.8765 2593 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2622.8765 You know that 2623.2735 2594 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2623.2735 (pause 0.23) 2623.5071 2595 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2623.5071 about us? 2623.8974 2596 DCB_int_01 2624.7049 DC doesn't claim Baltimore? What you mean? 2626.0495 2597 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2625.9928 Oh, Maryland, like PG County. 2627.8012 2598 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2628.6929 All the counties 2629.5972 2599 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2629.5972 (pause 0.41) 2630.0109 2600 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2630.0109 other than Baltimore don't claim Baltimore. 2632.2731 2601 DCB_int_01 2632.2531 Why not? 2632.6001 2602 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2632.9738 We just don't, it's like we don't even like Bal- (laughing) 2635.4670 2603 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2635.4670 (pause 0.36) 2635.8307 2604 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2635.8307 I don't know, it's a thing. First of all, DC s- like, straight DC does not claim Baltimore at all. 2639.8856 2605 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2639.8856 (pause 0.58) 2640.4619 2606 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2640.4619 Like it's like, 2641.3936 2607 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2641.3936 (pause 0.36) 2641.7506 2608 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2641.7506 they don't ever get along. 2642.6448 2609 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2642.6448 (pause 0.40) 2643.0419 2610 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2643.0419 But, um, 2643.7472 2611 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2643.7472 (pause 0.74) 2644.4866 2612 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2644.4866 I don't know, it's just a thing, like we like, mm-mm. 2646.6654 2613 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2646.6654 (pause 0.52) 2647.1868 2614 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2647.1868 People like, 2647.6005 2615 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2647.6005 (pause 0.20) 2647.8040 2616 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2647.8040 Baltimore, Maryland, no just Baltimore, Baltimore, we don't claim the 2650.2731 2617 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2650.2731 (pause 0.30) 2650.5700 2618 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2650.5700 step children (laughing) 2651.5577 2619 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2651.5577 (pause 0.76) 2652.3151 2620 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2652.3151 at all. 2653.0032 2621 DCB_int_01 2652.9999 I know. (whispered) 2653.5504 2622 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2653.8941 Mm-hm. 2654.4513 2623 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2654.4513 (pause 0.45) 2654.9051 2624 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2654.9051 2654.9952 2625 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2654.9952 (pause 0.44) 2655.4356 2626 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2655.4356 So yeah, definitely eat mumbo sauce. 2656.7369 2627 DCB_int_01 2657.3541 2657.4542 2628 DCB_int_01 2657.4542 (pause 0.38) 2657.8346 2629 DCB_int_01 2657.8346 Um, 2658.7613 2630 DCB_int_01 2658.7613 (pause 0.60) 2659.3636 2631 DCB_int_01 2659.3636 let me talk about- So, even here, right, this neighborhood where you've grown up 2662.8370 2632 DCB_int_01 2662.8370 (pause 0.39) 2663.2274 2633 DCB_int_01 2663.2274 we see condos across the street. [Shrimp Boat is not] Shrimp Boat, it's 2667.5292 2634 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2665.5972 [Mm-hm.] 2666.2531 2635 DCB_int_01 2667.7626 Shrimp Boat 2668.3632 2636 DCB_int_01 2668.3632 (pause 0.15) 2668.5100 2637 DCB_int_01 2668.5100 Center, or whatever it's called. 2669.6580 2638 DCB_int_01 2669.6580 (pause 0.65) 2670.3051 2639 DCB_int_01 2670.3051 Let's talk about gentrification. 2671.7440 2640 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2671.7973 2671.8708 2641 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2671.8708 (pause 0.59) 2672.4580 2642 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2672.4580 So I often wonder, I'm like, are they like- 2675.7345 2643 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2675.7345 (pause 0.31) 2676.0448 2644 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2676.0448 are- are they like, 2676.9098 2645 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2676.9098 (pause 0.71) 2677.6238 2646 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2677.6238 shipping people to another planet? Like, what are we doing with the people? 2680.5467 2647 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2680.5467 (pause 0.62) 2681.1640 2648 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2681.1640 2681.2274 2649 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2681.2274 (pause 0.09) 2681.3174 2650 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2681.3174 Cause even where I grew up on Seventh 2682.9532 2651 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2682.9532 (pause 0.47) 2683.4237 2652 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2683.4237 well in Capers is the- the- 2684.7249 2653 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2684.7249 (pause 0.20) 2684.9218 2654 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2684.9218 the, um, projects. 2685.9027 2655 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2685.9027 (pause 0.36) 2686.2597 2656 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2686.2597 Those are not there 2687.0872 2657 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2687.0872 (pause 0.16) 2687.2474 2658 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2687.2474 anymore. 2687.7312 2659 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2687.7312 (pause 0.51) 2688.2458 2660 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2688.2458 They're torn down, so you know- you- you know where Seventh in Capers is? 2690.8550 2661 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2690.8550 (pause 0.55) 2691.4056 2662 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2691.4056 Seventh and Arthur Street. So, 2692.4766 2663 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2692.4766 (pause 0.51) 2692.9905 2664 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2692.9905 [if y-] 2693.2774 2665 DCB_int_01 2692.9938 [I think so.] 2693.4311 2666 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2693.6678 if you're going down- 2694.6254 2667 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2694.6254 (pause 0.40) 2695.0233 2668 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2695.0233 if you gonna go to, um, 2696.4513 2669 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2696.4513 (pause 0.70) 2697.1487 2670 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2697.1487 the wharf for example, where it used to be Phillips, 2699.4242 2671 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2699.4242 (pause 0.74) 2700.1658 2672 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2700.1658 2700.5795 2673 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2700.5795 (pause 0.23) 2700.8064 2674 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2700.8064 you- you can go that way 2702.1610 2675 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2702.1610 (pause 0.19) 2702.3512 2676 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2702.3512 to get there. 2702.7783 2677 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2702.7783 (pause 0.57) 2703.3489 2678 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2703.3489 Um, 2703.8894 2679 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2703.8894 (pause 0.83) 2704.7202 2680 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2704.7202 that's not there anymore. 2705.5043 2681 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2705.5043 (pause 0.55) 2706.0515 2682 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2706.0515 There all these nice little 2707.2101 2683 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2707.2101 (pause 0.42) 2707.6305 2684 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2707.6305 high rises. But my question is 2709.4923 2685 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2709.4923 (pause 0.45) 2709.9394 2686 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2709.9394 Where'd you- where you put the people? 2711.4409 2687 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2711.4409 (pause 0.83) 2712.2725 2688 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2712.2725 Because all those are rentals. 2713.7139 2689 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2713.7139 (pause 0.57) 2714.2878 2690 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2714.2878 Like those the- they're not like- you can like, pay them, you know, 2716.8203 2691 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2716.8203 (pause 0.60) 2717.4209 2692 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2717.4209 to be like, 2717.8688 2693 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2717.8688 (pause 0.27) 2718.1391 2694 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2718.1391 let me pay these people for their- 2719.5638 2695 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2719.5638 (pause 0.17) 2719.7340 2696 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2719.7340 for their property, cause that's what they 2721.2588 2697 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2721.2588 (pause 0.28) 2721.5424 2698 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2721.5424 usually do with the houses, but. 2722.8570 2699 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2722.8570 (pause 1.14) 2723.9981 2700 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2723.9981 People are renting there. 2725.0901 2701 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2725.0901 (pause 0.53) 2725.6238 2702 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2725.6238 S- and most of 'em on fixed, 2726.7479 2703 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2726.7479 (pause 0.24) 2726.9852 2704 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2726.9852 you know, income and- and government 2728.3865 2705 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2728.3865 (pause 0.37) 2728.7569 2706 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2728.7569 support, so. 2729.4275 2707 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2729.4275 (pause 0.53) 2729.9622 2708 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2729.9622 I'm like, what are you doing with the people? So I guess they're like- 2732.3279 2709 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2732.3279 (pause 0.35) 2732.6815 2710 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2732.6815 they closing them down and then 2734.1430 2711 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2734.1430 (pause 0.44) 2734.5867 2712 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2734.5867 go wherever you go, and then people start trying to filter out 2737.0766 2713 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2737.0766 (pause 0.43) 2737.5104 2714 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2737.5104 wherever. 2737.9942 2715 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2737.9942 (pause 0.87) 2738.8617 2716 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2738.8617 But, 2739.1553 2717 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2739.1553 (pause 0.41) 2739.5624 2718 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2739.5624 I often wonder like, 2740.6067 2719 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2740.6067 (pause 0.91) 2741.5176 2720 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2741.5176 as the, 2742.3051 2721 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2742.3051 (pause 0.76) 2743.0633 2722 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2743.0633 um, 2743.5838 2723 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2743.5838 (pause 0.64) 2744.2278 2724 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2744.2278 builders and the government, 2745.7359 2725 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2745.7359 (pause 0.61) 2746.3432 2726 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2746.3432 mostly, 2746.8103 2727 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2746.8103 (pause 0.49) 2747.2974 2728 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2747.2974 are making these changes, like what is their plan for the 2750.2978 2729 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2750.2978 (pause 0.40) 2750.6982 2730 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2750.6982 people? And what is their plan to 2752.3398 2731 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2752.3398 (pause 0.46) 2752.7969 2732 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2752.7969 save the culture 2753.9981 2733 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2753.9981 (pause 0.62) 2754.6195 2734 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2754.6195 of this place? 2755.2435 2735 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2755.2435 (pause 0.97) 2756.2111 2736 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2756.2111 I don't really think 2756.9218 2737 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2756.9218 (pause 1.15) 2758.0729 2738 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2758.0729 that's a factor to them because it's more about the money. 2760.3551 2739 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2760.3551 (pause 0.60) 2760.9599 2740 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2760.9599 It's more about making it look 2762.2936 2741 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2762.2936 (pause 0.38) 2762.6715 2742 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2762.6715 very, uh, 2763.6024 2743 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2763.6024 (pause 0.65) 2764.2497 2744 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2764.2497 pleasurable on the eye for their investors 2766.6254 2745 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2766.6254 (pause 0.36) 2766.9866 2746 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2766.9866 that come in, 2767.6572 2747 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2767.6572 (pause 0.47) 2768.1243 2748 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2768.1243 and the people they have flying in. Like, 2769.4389 2749 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2769.4389 (pause 0.14) 2769.5791 2750 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2769.5791 The whole National Stadium area is 2771.3386 2751 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2771.3386 (pause 0.30) 2771.6378 2752 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2771.6378 totally different, you know. 2772.6321 2753 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2772.6321 (pause 0.42) 2773.0533 2754 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2773.0533 And I'm all for change in terms of making things better and beautifying, beautification projects, 2777.2707 2755 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2777.2707 (pause 0.60) 2777.8680 2756 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2777.8680 But, 2778.3051 2757 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2778.3051 (pause 0.14) 2778.4452 2758 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2778.4452 I'm like, at the expense of what? 2779.8174 2759 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2779.8174 (pause 0.85) 2780.6682 2760 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2780.6682 So that's my- 2781.3288 2761 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2781.3288 (pause 0.93) 2782.2597 2762 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2782.2597 my question mark. 2783.1640 2763 DCB_int_01 2784.4694 Tell me about going to the Boys and Girls Club when you were younger. 2786.6749 2764 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2787.5724 Um, well, I didn't even know it was a Boys and Girls Club. We talked about that with like, some of the other people. I was like, I'm going to the ARC. 2792.0209 2765 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2792.0209 (pause 0.29) 2792.3112 2766 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2792.3112 Like (laughing) I didn't even know 2793.3689 2767 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2793.3689 (pause 0.47) 2793.8393 2768 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2793.8393 that that was the Boys and Girls Club. 2795.3808 2769 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2795.3808 (pause 0.33) 2795.7145 2770 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2795.7145 Um, 2796.2550 2771 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2796.2550 (pause 0.42) 2796.6734 2772 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2796.6734 2796.7623 2773 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2796.7623 (pause 0.08) 2796.8398 2774 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2796.8398 I- 2797.1434 2775 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2797.1434 (pause 0.31) 2797.4570 2776 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2797.4570 we were just kids playing, it was somewhere to go. 2800.0629 2777 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2800.0629 (pause 0.46) 2800.5200 2778 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2800.5200 You know, you go down Minnesota, 2802.8698 2779 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2802.8698 (pause 0.25) 2803.1167 2780 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2803.1167 and you 2803.7640 2781 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2803.7640 (pause 0.49) 2804.2545 2782 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2804.2545 get your sour pickle, you get your steak and cheese and your- 2807.4943 2783 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2807.4943 (pause 0.45) 2807.9455 2784 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2807.9455 and your, um, fried rice, 2809.8607 2785 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2809.8607 (pause 0.52) 2810.3779 2786 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2810.3779 and you eat that while you walking on the way 2812.2864 2787 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2812.2864 (pause 0.49) 2812.7769 2788 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2812.7769 down there. 2813.4609 2789 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2813.4609 (pause 0.54) 2813.9981 2790 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2813.9981 And you just- 2814.9732 2791 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2814.9732 (pause 0.28) 2815.2502 2792 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2815.2502 It was just like a big social 2817.0586 2793 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2817.0586 (pause 0.50) 2817.5624 2794 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2817.5624 whatever but you felt very safe. 2819.1273 2795 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2819.1273 (pause 0.64) 2819.7679 2796 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2819.7679 Extremely safe. 2820.8431 2797 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2820.8431 (pause 0.71) 2821.5571 2798 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2821.5571 But I would also have to say I felt more safe 2823.8527 2799 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2823.8527 (pause 1.01) 2824.8637 2800 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2824.8637 in the city than I did 2826.0815 2801 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2826.0815 (pause 0.53) 2826.6129 2802 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2826.6129 going 2827.1702 2803 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2827.1702 (pause 0.34) 2827.5104 2804 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2827.5104 to the 2827.8441 2805 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2827.8441 (pause 0.35) 2828.1977 2806 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2828.1977 suburban places. I don't know why, but 2830.0896 2807 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2830.0896 (pause 0.42) 2830.5133 2808 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2830.5133 I did. 2830.9171 2809 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2830.9171 (pause 0.35) 2831.2707 2810 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2831.2707 I felt way more safe. It was noise, it was people all the time, 2833.8341 2811 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2833.8341 (pause 0.64) 2834.4747 2812 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2834.4747 you know. 2834.7750 2813 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2834.7750 (pause 0.48) 2835.2588 2814 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2835.2588 That's off track. 2835.7192 2815 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2835.7192 (pause 0.25) 2835.9661 2816 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2835.9661 But 2836.1797 2817 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2836.1797 (pause 0.48) 2836.6601 2818 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2836.6601 the Boys and Girls- (laughing) I'll get- I'll go back to that. 2838.4948 2819 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2838.4948 (pause 0.74) 2839.2301 2820 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2839.2301 The Boys and Girls Club then it was just 2841.2521 2821 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2841.2521 (pause 0.82) 2842.0696 2822 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2842.0696 2842.1229 2823 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2842.1229 (pause 0.12) 2842.2464 2824 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2842.2464 so welcoming. So, 2843.4476 2825 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2843.4476 (pause 0.25) 2843.7011 2826 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2843.7011 now that I'm here, 2844.6662 2827 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2844.6662 (pause 0.54) 2845.2034 2828 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2845.2034 it makes so much more sense 2846.7750 2829 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2846.7750 (pause 0.50) 2847.2721 2830 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2847.2721 why it was so open. 2848.9437 2831 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2848.9437 (pause 0.50) 2849.4409 2832 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2849.4409 And, you know, it was more, um- 2851.3035 2833 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2851.3035 (pause 0.41) 2851.7106 2834 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2851.7106 All the DC and- and PG clubs 2853.5124 2835 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2853.5124 (pause 0.52) 2854.0295 2836 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2854.0295 are 2854.6134 2837 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2854.6134 (pause 0.44) 2855.0505 2838 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2855.0505 grant funded pretty much. 2856.2750 2839 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2856.2750 (pause 0.36) 2856.6329 2840 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2856.6329 Whereas like, 2857.4082 2841 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2857.4082 (pause 0.38) 2857.7907 2842 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2857.7907 Virginia is probably program funded cause the parents have the money to really pay, 2861.7879 2843 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2861.7879 (pause 0.80) 2862.5862 2844 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2862.5862 you know, a- a- um, membership. 2864.4580 2845 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2864.4580 (pause 0.55) 2865.0119 2846 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2865.0119 Whereas we do not. 2865.8894 2847 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2865.8894 (pause 0.58) 2866.4666 2848 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2866.4666 Um, but because of that, 2868.0548 2849 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2868.0548 (pause 0.37) 2868.4260 2850 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2868.4260 there was no strings. I can only imagine if I was that age going to 2871.7159 2851 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2871.7159 (pause 0.43) 2872.1430 2852 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2872.1430 clubs that were program funded. It's like, excuse me, 2873.9414 2853 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2873.9414 (pause 0.39) 2874.3318 2854 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2874.3318 do you have a- 2874.9432 2855 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2874.9432 (pause 0.27) 2875.2168 2856 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2875.2168 What are you doing here? 2875.9288 2857 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2875.9288 (pause 0.27) 2876.2011 2858 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2876.2011 And, you know, cause they have to, cause you got people paying to be here. 2878.6435 2859 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2878.6435 (pause 0.40) 2879.0405 2860 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2879.0405 Whereas, 2879.6312 2861 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2879.6312 (pause 0.58) 2880.2158 2862 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2880.2158 the club was just- it was like open arms. 2882.0776 2863 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2882.0776 (pause 0.21) 2882.2845 2864 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2882.2845 I [mean,] 2882.8350 2865 DCB_int_01 2882.4480 [Mm.] 2882.8284 2866 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2883.6458 it was very 2884.7903 2867 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2884.7903 (pause 0.29) 2885.0772 2868 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2885.0772 welcome. Even to the point I didn't even know 2886.5920 2869 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2886.5920 (pause 0.45) 2887.0399 2870 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2887.0399 that- /but/ I don't think they did branding very well 2888.8450 2871 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2888.8450 (pause 0.36) 2889.2087 2872 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2889.2087 back then. (laughing) 2889.6625 2873 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2889.6625 (pause 0.19) 2889.8560 2874 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2889.8560 But I didn't even know. 2890.8403 2875 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2890.8403 (pause 0.36) 2891.2007 2876 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2891.2007 I thought, 2891.6578 2877 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2891.6578 (pause 0.26) 2891.9189 2878 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2891.9189 we going to the ARC. 2892.5928 2879 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2892.5928 (pause 0.45) 2893.0433 2880 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2893.0433 That's what it was, it was the ARC, 2893.9175 2881 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2893.9175 (pause 0.23) 2894.1510 2882 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2894.1510 period. 2894.5114 2883 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2894.5114 (pause 0.72) 2895.2354 2884 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2895.2354 So when I interviewed, 2896.5100 2885 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2896.5100 (pause 0.45) 2896.9604 2886 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2896.9604 and we talked about it, even then, I said 2898.9465 2887 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2898.9465 (pause 0.18) 2899.1234 2888 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2899.1234 2899.1868 2889 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2899.1868 (pause 0.63) 2899.8207 2890 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2899.8207 I was about 2900.4747 2891 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2900.4747 (pause 0.69) 2901.1653 2892 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2901.1653 probably my mid-twenties, and that's when I- 2902.6401 2893 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2902.6401 (pause 0.31) 2902.9504 2894 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2902.9504 I went back there for something. 2904.4761 2895 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2904.4761 (pause 0.41) 2904.8831 2896 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2904.8831 And, um, 2905.4503 2897 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2905.4503 (pause 0.21) 2905.6639 2898 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2905.6639 I remember saying- 2906.4480 2899 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2906.4480 (pause 0.49) 2906.9351 2900 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2906.9351 And at that time I was like, 2907.8026 2901 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2907.8026 (pause 0.41) 2908.2097 2902 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2908.2097 oh, Boys and Girls Club took over? Been here the whole time. 2911.5771 2903 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2911.5771 (pause 0.45) 2912.0276 2904 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2912.0276 Uh, but I was telling, uh, 2913.1754 2905 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2913.1754 (pause 0.46) 2913.6358 2906 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2913.6358 /RD-NAME-3/ I was like, yeah, 2914.6134 2907 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2914.6134 (pause 0.19) 2914.8069 2908 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2914.8069 2914.8770 2909 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2914.8770 (pause 0.65) 2915.5276 2910 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2915.5276 that's when I first realized it was the Boys and Girls Club. 2917.1567 2911 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2917.1567 (pause 0.76) 2917.9175 2912 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2917.9175 All that time. 2918.4246 2913 DCB_int_01 2918.7950 And didn't even know it. 2919.6492 2914 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2919.7793 Nope. 2920.0529 2915 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2920.0529 (pause 0.69) 2920.7402 2916 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2920.7402 Didn't know it, 2921.3875 2917 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2921.3875 (pause 0.22) 2921.6086 2918 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2921.6086 And then it's a pros and cons to that. You know, con is, oh, 2923.9809 2919 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2923.9809 (pause 0.23) 2924.2144 2920 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2924.2144 you not branding well but that's the business side. 2926.0264 2921 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2926.0264 (pause 0.34) 2926.3632 2922 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2926.3632 But as a kid, 2927.0605 2923 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2927.0605 (pause 0.53) 2927.5944 2924 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2927.5944 you didn't know it because 2928.5995 2925 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2928.5995 (pause 0.18) 2928.7797 2926 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2928.7797 there was no stipulations. There was- 2930.3612 2927 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2930.3612 (pause 0.24) 2930.6015 2928 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2930.6015 It was very open and free and 2932.0729 2929 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2932.0729 (pause 0.41) 2932.4833 2930 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2932.4833 you felt very welcome. It wasn't like- 2934.0548 2931 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2934.0548 (pause 1.04) 2935.0900 2932 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2935.0900 it wasn't controlling environments where a kid can really be a kid, basically. 2938.9070 2933 DCB_int_01 2939.2941 Hm. 2939.6478 2934 DCB_int_01 2939.6478 (pause 0.59) 2940.2358 2935 DCB_int_01 2940.2358 But go back to this idea of feeling safe, because that's so funny. L- like you felt safer in the city? [Like,] 2944.5067 2936 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2944.4166 [I] did. [] 2945.4643 2937 DCB_int_01 2945.3108 [Cause] the s- 2945.5841 2938 DCB_int_01 2945.8146 the statistics will tell you [otherwise.] Every- every article, every report, [every census] bureau, the 2951.1373 2939 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2947.0809 [] 2947.2015 2940 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2947.2015 (pause 2.76) 2949.9661 2941 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2949.9661 [Yeah.] 2950.4248 2942 DCB_int_01 2951.3541 piece information you pull is 2952.6362 2943 DCB_int_01 2952.6362 (pause 0.48) 2953.1134 2944 DCB_int_01 2953.1134 very much 2953.7894 2945 DCB_int_01 2953.7894 (pause 0.20) 2953.9875 2946 DCB_int_01 2953.9875 saying something [different.] 2954.9351 2947 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2954.7483 [Well, I] guess me working in 2956.4499 2948 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2956.9104 government 2957.4709 2949 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2957.4709 (pause 0.18) 2957.6544 2950 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2957.6544 my entire life and working 2959.0967 2951 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2959.0967 (pause 0.44) 2959.5338 2952 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2959.5338 around sensitive information, I often 2961.7793 2953 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2961.7793 (pause 0.33) 2962.1096 2954 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2962.1096 would not- 2962.6768 2955 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2962.6768 (pause 1.04) 2963.7212 2956 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2963.7212 I don't believe 2964.5292 2957 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2964.5292 (pause 0.37) 2964.8965 2958 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2964.8965 what's put out in census and what's put out in statistics because 2968.1196 2959 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2968.1196 (pause 1.29) 2969.4142 2960 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2969.4142 it's man made. So I don't- 2970.5194 2961 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2970.5194 (pause 0.34) 2970.8598 2962 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2970.8598 Half the stuff is put out for a reason. 2972.3512 2963 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2972.3512 (pause 0.64) 2972.9885 2964 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2972.9885 Um, /?/ 2973.8026 2965 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2973.8026 (pause 0.50) 2974.2998 2966 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2974.2998 it's- there's always an agenda. 2975.5105 2967 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2975.5105 (pause 0.23) 2975.7387 2968 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2975.7387 I wouldn't be surprised that's say that so people would be more- 2978.1310 2969 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2978.1310 (pause 0.60) 2978.7316 2970 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2978.7316 more comfortable to move so we can build up. 2980.1330 2971 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2980.1330 (pause 0.72) 2980.8571 2972 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2980.8571 Whatever. 2981.1841 2973 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2981.1841 (pause 0.18) 2981.3643 2974 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2981.3643 But, um, 2981.8280 2975 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2981.8280 (pause 0.85) 2982.6755 2976 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2982.6755 uh, 2983.1360 2977 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2983.1360 (pause 0.17) 2983.3061 2978 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2983.3061 I felt more safe. 2984.2871 2979 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2984.2871 (pause 0.82) 2985.1110 2980 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2985.1110 The statistics in my family (laughing) from real people with their mouth, 2988.4476 2981 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2988.4476 (pause 0.48) 2988.9322 2982 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2988.9322 they felt more safe in the city. 2990.1667 2983 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2990.1667 (pause 0.51) 2990.6739 2984 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2990.6739 When I moved to Waldorf where, 2992.4923 2985 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2992.4923 (pause 0.56) 2993.0529 2986 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2993.0529 you know, for my kids, 2994.0146 2987 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2994.0146 (pause 0.19) 2994.2081 2988 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2994.2081 um, 2994.5518 2989 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2994.5518 (pause 0.18) 2994.7353 2990 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2994.7353 in theory 2995.3559 2991 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2995.3559 (pause 0.22) 2995.5728 2992 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2995.5728 it's safer, 2996.2868 2993 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2996.2868 (pause 0.24) 2996.5304 2994 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2996.5304 Late at night, 2997.0643 2995 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2997.0643 (pause 0.53) 2997.5914 2996 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2997.5914 I'm constantly looking out the window, 2998.9161 2997 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2998.9161 (pause 0.41) 2999.3240 2998 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 2999.3240 checking the door. 3000.0680 2999 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3000.0680 (pause 0.41) 3000.4751 3000 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3000.4751 Cause I don't hear anything, it's so quiet. I'm like, what's going on? (whispered) 3002.7647 3001 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3002.7647 (pause 0.40) 3003.1610 3002 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3003.1610 What's going on around here? You know, (laughing) it's [so quiet] and 3005.4165 3003 DCB_int_01 3004.3222 [Mm.] 3004.8293 3004 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3005.8178 you hear every little thing. In the city, 3007.4994 3005 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3007.4994 (pause 0.89) 3008.3903 3006 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3008.3903 it's noisy, it's like- 3009.3178 3007 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3009.3178 (pause 0.66) 3009.9818 3008 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3009.9818 it's always people around and it's always 3011.8370 3009 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3011.8370 (pause 0.19) 3012.0246 3010 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3012.0246 just busy, so, 3013.4861 3011 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3013.4861 (pause 0.96) 3014.4437 3012 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3014.4437 I feel safe. It's like well, 3015.5180 3013 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3015.5180 (pause 0.37) 3015.8884 3014 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3015.8884 who's gonna break in right here? People walking (laughing) they gonna see it, and 3018.7220 3015 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3018.7220 (pause 0.41) 3019.1324 3016 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3019.1324 who's gonna do 3019.7864 3017 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3019.7864 (pause 0.25) 3020.0366 3018 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3020.0366 whatever? You just feel- it- you just felt so much- I guess it's more eyes 3023.1229 3019 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3023.1229 (pause 0.44) 3023.5634 3020 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3023.5634 on you, [whatever. You kind of] felt more safe. 3025.1024 3021 DCB_int_01 3024.0914 [Mm.] 3024.4867 3022 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3025.3459 Whereas in other- in- Waldorf kind of country and it's quiet and people are in their houses and 3030.0672 3023 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3030.0672 (pause 0.53) 3030.6019 3024 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3030.6019 somebody could do something, nobody would even see it. 3031.9966 3025 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3031.9966 (pause 0.40) 3032.3936 3026 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3032.3936 That's kind of what my- my thought pattern was. 3033.9612 3027 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3033.9612 (pause 0.64) 3034.5991 3028 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3034.5991 But, um, 3035.1830 3029 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3035.1830 (pause 0.23) 3035.4132 3030 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3035.4132 I would not raise my kids where I l- where I grew up. 3037.6963 3031 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3037.6963 (pause 0.46) 3038.1567 3032 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3038.1567 So I don't feel that safe. 3038.8687 3033 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3038.8687 (pause 0.42) 3039.2845 3034 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3039.2845 But I- I /wouldn't/ raise them (laughing) 3040.7726 3035 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3040.7726 (pause 0.43) 3041.2063 3036 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3041.2063 where I grew up. 3041.9704 3037 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3041.9704 (pause 0.34) 3042.3082 3038 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3042.3082 I would be one of those people that would purchase like, 3044.3536 3039 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3044.3536 (pause 0.56) 3044.9141 3040 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3044.9141 /at the Ritz/ 3045.6215 3041 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3045.6215 (pause 0.42) 3046.0385 3042 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3046.0385 Georgetown, or something like that. 3047.6021 3043 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3047.6021 (pause 0.51) 3048.1081 3044 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3048.1081 Because once you have children, the mentality is just different. You want better 3051.4146 3045 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3051.4146 (pause 0.35) 3051.7683 3046 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3051.7683 for them. 3052.0619 3047 DCB_int_01 3052.0185 But even if you've seen the city changing, right, that area- So, where you've grown up, 3055.7730 3048 DCB_int_01 3055.9665 I [mean, it's happening.] It's [happening.] The developers are moving. 3058.6686 3049 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3056.2168 [Mm-hm.] 3056.5404 3050 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3056.5404 (pause 0.86) 3057.4046 3051 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3057.4046 [Mm-hm.] 3057.7116 3052 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3058.7259 Mm-hm. 3059.0228 3053 DCB_int_01 3059.0729 So that area's changing very [quickly. So you] still wouldn't- 3061.5328 3054 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3060.3850 [Mm-hm.] 3060.7220 3055 DCB_int_01 3061.7496 you wouldn't 3062.3135 3056 DCB_int_01 3062.3135 (pause 0.19) 3062.5071 3057 DCB_int_01 3062.5071 purchase there? 3063.0404 3058 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3063.5481 No, not until a hundred percent of the area is changing. Because if you notice, so, 3066.6319 3059 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3066.6319 (pause 0.41) 3067.0390 3060 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3067.0390 they've changed- they're putting new condos over here, 3069.1977 3061 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3069.1977 (pause 0.20) 3069.3946 3062 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3069.3946 but you still got all this going on up the street right here. 3071.0896 3063 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3071.0896 (pause 1.04) 3072.1247 3064 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3072.1247 So- where you think- the people where you taking their jobs, 3074.5704 3065 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3074.5704 (pause 0.61) 3075.1777 3066 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3075.1777 where you think they gonna come rob from? 3076.7092 3067 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3076.7092 (pause 1.08) 3077.7877 3068 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3077.7877 So they're- wa- it's a d- it's a walk away. 3079.7430 3069 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3079.7430 (pause 0.90) 3080.6405 3070 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3080.6405 So no. 3080.9819 3071 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3080.9819 (pause 0.56) 3081.5447 3072 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3081.5447 I think it 3082.0185 3073 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3082.0185 (pause 0.52) 3082.5424 3074 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3082.5424 creates more havoc because 3084.1347 3075 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3084.1347 (pause 0.42) 3084.5552 3076 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3084.5552 you literally putting the candy 3086.0466 3077 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3086.0466 (pause 0.43) 3086.4737 3078 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3086.4737 in front of the kids 3087.5614 3079 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3087.5614 (pause 0.35) 3087.9118 3080 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3087.9118 right on the counter. 3088.6691 3081 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3088.6691 (pause 0.38) 3089.0495 3082 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3089.0495 It's like r- literally around the corner. 3091.0890 3083 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3091.0890 (pause 0.50) 3091.5895 3084 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3091.5895 So this almost goes back to 3093.2044 3085 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3093.2044 (pause 0.67) 3093.8717 3086 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3093.8717 when my mom moved to Fort Washington, Potomac, you know, it was really estate-y type, 3096.8154 3087 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3096.8154 (pause 0.61) 3097.4293 3088 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3097.4293 um, complex. 3098.4805 3089 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3098.4805 (pause 0.61) 3099.0910 3090 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3099.0910 You go into the- you don't even think that it's 3100.5924 3091 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3100.5924 (pause 0.17) 3100.7659 3092 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3100.7659 where she is cause it's so rich-y and stuff, like. 3103.8297 3093 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3103.8297 (pause 0.95) 3104.7840 3094 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3104.7840 Soon as you turn out the neighborhood and go left or right, 3107.0829 3095 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3107.0829 (pause 0.61) 3107.6910 3096 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3107.6910 3107.7911 3097 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3107.7911 (pause 0.75) 3108.5418 3098 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3108.5418 what's over there? 3109.1711 3099 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3109.1711 (pause 0.67) 3109.8431 3100 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3109.8431 What is that neighborhood? Glass Manor 3111.3445 3101 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3111.3445 (pause 0.54) 3111.8851 3102 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3111.8851 is right there. 3112.8960 3103 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3112.8960 (pause 0.41) 3113.3064 3104 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3113.3064 Um, 3113.9404 3105 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3113.9404 (pause 0.60) 3114.5385 3106 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3114.5385 this little, 3115.3059 3107 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3115.3059 (pause 0.79) 3116.1000 3108 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3116.1000 uh, hood neighborhoods right here. It's like literally within walking distance. So I say that to say, 3119.9237 3109 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3119.9237 (pause 0.61) 3120.5385 3110 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3120.5385 a lot of the houses, 3121.4861 3111 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3121.4861 (pause 0.43) 3121.9131 3112 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3121.9131 thank god not hers, have always getting breaking- broken into. 3124.2421 3113 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3124.2421 (pause 1.04) 3125.2831 3114 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3125.2831 All the time. 3125.9637 3115 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3125.9637 (pause 0.38) 3126.3416 3116 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3126.3416 Cause it's like you 3127.2225 3117 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3127.2225 (pause 0.51) 3127.7363 3118 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3127.7363 put these- you build up these nice rich neighborhood with these affluent people 3131.2764 3119 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3131.2764 (pause 0.43) 3131.7035 3120 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3131.7035 are gonna be there 3132.3007 3121 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3132.3007 (pause 0.60) 3132.9022 3122 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3132.9022 but you- 3133.4393 3123 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3133.4393 (pause 0.21) 3133.6529 3124 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3133.6529 you leave the surrounding areas the same and then take their jobs. 3137.0695 3125 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3137.0695 (pause 0.43) 3137.5033 3126 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3137.5033 How they gonna survive? 3138.2507 3127 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3138.2507 (pause 2.37) 3140.6172 3128 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3140.6172 So, 3140.8998 3129 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3140.8998 (pause 0.40) 3141.3045 3130 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3141.3045 no I wouldn't. 3141.9218 3131 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3141.9218 (pause 1.00) 3142.9261 3132 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3142.9261 I'm just not that stupid. 3143.6776 3133 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3143.6776 (pause 0.57) 3144.2515 3134 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3144.2515 I'd rather be in a place where everybody 3145.9899 3135 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3145.9899 (pause 0.50) 3146.4937 3136 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3146.4937 is pretty [much] 3147.0809 3137 DCB_int_01 3146.9742 [Mm.] 3147.3675 3138 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3147.5581 the [same.] 3148.1320 3139 DCB_int_01 3147.8617 [that makes] sense. 3148.6024 3140 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3148.5991 They're- they- they don't need to steal from you. They're working class people. 3152.1033 3141 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3152.5871 They'll- they- No. 3153.3178 3142 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3153.3178 (pause 0.83) 3154.1453 3143 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3154.1453 So like you not gonna go to the Hamptons and have that problem. 3156.0572 3144 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3156.0572 (pause 0.52) 3156.5752 3145 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3156.5752 The Hamptons, 3157.1157 3146 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3157.1157 (pause 0.18) 3157.2925 3147 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3157.2925 everything is- 3157.9365 3148 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3157.9365 (pause 0.56) 3158.4937 3149 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3158.4937 Yeah, there's a certain class that's over there. 3160.2588 3150 DCB_int_01 3160.9361 Do you think it's a class issue or a race issue? 3162.7754 3151 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3163.2592 Uh, both. 3163.7671 3152 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3163.7671 (pause 1.07) 3164.8407 3153 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3164.8407 I think it's both. 3165.3245 3154 DCB_int_01 3165.3979 Why? 3165.6859 3155 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3166.5123 Um, 3166.9561 3156 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3166.9561 (pause 0.29) 3167.2430 3157 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3167.2430 cause both of them like, kind of coexist 3169.2525 3158 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3169.2525 (pause 0.16) 3169.4093 3159 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3169.4093 together. 3169.8764 3160 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3169.8764 (pause 0.38) 3170.2601 3161 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3170.2601 Some of the classes think that only a particular race 3172.6558 3162 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3172.6558 (pause 0.23) 3172.8860 3163 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3172.8860 can be one thing and vice versa. 3174.5451 3164 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3174.5451 (pause 0.49) 3175.0356 3165 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3175.0356 Um, 3175.5294 3166 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3175.5294 (pause 0.36) 3175.8931 3167 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3175.8931 I think when it comes to 3177.4546 3168 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3177.4546 (pause 0.41) 3177.8617 3169 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3177.8617 the race issue, 3178.9628 3170 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3178.9628 (pause 0.56) 3179.5267 3171 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3179.5267 the stereotype is that all white people are racist. 3181.9632 3172 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3181.9632 (pause 0.48) 3182.4437 3173 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3182.4437 That's a stereotype which is 3183.6849 3174 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3183.6849 (pause 0.56) 3184.2454 3175 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3184.2454 not true. I was just having this conversation with my ten year old 3186.3917 3176 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3186.3917 (pause 0.49) 3186.8855 3177 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3186.8855 last night. 3187.4127 3178 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3187.4127 (pause 0.38) 3187.7930 3179 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3187.7930 And these are the conversations my kids have. 3189.2204 3180 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3189.2204 (pause 0.46) 3189.6782 3181 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3189.6782 Kind of like 3190.0352 3182 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3190.0352 (pause 0.19) 3190.2254 3183 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3190.2254 me growing up. 3190.8560 3184 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3190.8560 (pause 0.45) 3191.3031 3185 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3191.3031 Um, 3191.7369 3186 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3191.7369 (pause 0.43) 3192.1714 3187 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3192.1714 the stereotype is that 3193.2492 3188 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3193.2492 (pause 0.92) 3194.1667 3189 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3194.1667 all white people are racist, all black people are thugs and 3197.5700 3190 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3197.5700 (pause 0.46) 3198.0313 3191 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3198.0313 angry and 3198.9756 3192 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3198.9756 (pause 0.25) 3199.2291 3193 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3199.2291 violent. 3199.8998 3194 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3199.8998 (pause 0.62) 3200.5204 3195 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3200.5204 Um, 3201.2378 3196 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3201.2378 (pause 0.37) 3201.6115 3197 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3201.6115 and then you have inter racism, you have 3203.8403 3198 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3203.8403 (pause 0.59) 3204.4284 3199 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3204.4284 race on race racism, you got black people that are, 3207.0643 3200 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3207.0643 (pause 0.48) 3207.5481 3201 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3207.5481 you too dark, 3208.2731 3202 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3208.2731 (pause 0.32) 3208.5891 3203 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3208.5891 you too light, 3209.3424 3204 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3209.3424 (pause 0.21) 3209.5567 3205 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3209.5567 you too this. 3210.2081 3206 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3210.2081 (pause 0.47) 3210.6786 3207 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3210.6786 That's the issue. And then it's- for- for my family it's on both. It's like it's Spanish people, 3214.7893 3208 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3214.7893 (pause 0.47) 3215.2631 3209 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3215.2631 all the Dominicans 3216.3564 3210 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3216.3564 (pause 0.27) 3216.6286 3211 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3216.6286 who- 3217.0423 3212 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3217.0423 (pause 0.24) 3217.2859 3213 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3217.2859 I always gotta constantly tell some of 3218.8807 3214 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3218.8807 (pause 0.44) 3219.3212 3215 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3219.3212 my cousins 3220.3385 3216 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3220.3385 (pause 0.61) 3220.9528 3217 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3220.9528 who are like in DR. 3222.1339 3218 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3222.1339 (pause 0.29) 3222.4217 3219 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3222.4217 3222.4784 3220 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3222.4784 (pause 0.30) 3222.7787 3221 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3222.7787 Um, 3223.3126 3222 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3223.3126 (pause 0.50) 3223.8130 3223 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3223.8130 some are much older, 3224.8674 3224 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3224.8674 (pause 0.23) 3225.1010 3225 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3225.1010 like a older 3225.6615 3226 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3225.6615 (pause 0.20) 3225.8617 3227 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3225.8617 group. Because they went through so much their mentality is so warped. 3228.0482 3228 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3228.0482 (pause 0.39) 3228.4350 3229 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3228.4350 I'm like, let me explain to you, you are a black person who speaks Spanish, okay? Your oppressor 3232.5590 3230 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3232.5590 (pause 0.93) 3233.4841 3231 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3233.4841 raped our people and that's why you speak Spanish, kay? 3235.9932 3232 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3235.9932 (pause 0.75) 3236.7439 3233 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3236.7439 Learn your history. 3237.4580 3234 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3237.4580 (pause 0.69) 3238.1453 3235 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3238.1453 Don't think you 3238.9294 3236 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3238.9294 (pause 0.57) 3239.4966 3237 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3239.4966 not black. Spanish is a culture, 3241.1858 3238 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3241.1858 (pause 0.79) 3241.9732 3239 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3241.9732 okay? 3242.3652 3240 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3242.3652 (pause 0.34) 3242.7039 3241 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3242.7039 Latino is a culture, not a race. 3244.4156 3242 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3244.4156 (pause 0.36) 3244.7726 3243 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3244.7726 So, 3245.2597 3244 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3245.2597 (pause 0.51) 3245.7669 3245 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3245.7669 I'm like, 3246.1206 3246 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3246.1206 (pause 0.27) 3246.3917 3247 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3246.3917 you are black 3247.2024 3248 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3247.2024 (pause 0.20) 3247.4060 3249 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3247.4060 and you speak Spanish. 3248.2068 3250 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3248.2068 (pause 0.29) 3248.5004 3251 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3248.5004 Like, that's it. 3248.9542 3252 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3248.9542 (pause 0.59) 3249.5481 3253 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3249.5481 Um, they wanna try to separate themselves like, 3251.7210 3254 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3251.7210 (pause 0.25) 3251.9746 3255 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3251.9746 oh no we- 3252.6119 3256 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3252.6119 (pause 0.34) 3252.9555 3257 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3252.9555 we're not black, we Spanish. 3254.2201 3258 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3254.2201 (pause 0.45) 3254.6739 3259 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3254.6739 3254.7540 3260 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3254.7540 (pause 0.19) 3254.9477 3261 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3254.9477 We need to /DNA/ on you? 3255.8848 3262 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3255.8848 (pause 0.44) 3256.3255 3263 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3256.3255 You need DNA? 3256.8293 3264 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3256.8293 (pause 0.67) 3257.5033 3265 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3257.5033 Like, 3257.7936 3266 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3257.7936 (pause 0.54) 3258.3316 3267 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3258.3316 where you think you get your melanin from? 3259.5661 3268 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3259.5661 (pause 0.72) 3260.2835 3269 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3260.2835 Where you think you get it from? Like, 3261.2211 3270 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3261.2211 (pause 0.46) 3261.6815 3271 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3261.6815 you 3261.9685 3272 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3261.9685 (pause 0.14) 3262.1119 3273 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3262.1119 are 3262.3689 3274 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3262.3689 (pause 0.17) 3262.5390 3275 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3262.5390 African. 3262.9795 3276 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3262.9795 (pause 0.19) 3263.1730 3277 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3263.1730 Okay? (laughing) 3263.7569 3278 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3263.7569 (pause 0.72) 3264.4817 3279 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3264.4817 So, um, 3265.4026 3280 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3265.4026 (pause 0.59) 3265.9966 3281 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3265.9966 that whole thing. 3266.9575 3282 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3266.9575 (pause 0.33) 3267.2878 3283 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3267.2878 So I think- And then you have those classes there. 3269.3231 3284 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3269.3231 (pause 0.54) 3269.8678 3285 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3269.8678 You know you got like, 3270.5151 3286 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3270.5151 (pause 0.38) 3270.8988 3287 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3270.8988 oh, well you dark, so 3272.8874 3288 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3272.8874 (pause 0.40) 3273.2845 3289 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3273.2845 you not from here. It's like, I wouldn't be considered dark in DR. 3275.4933 3290 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3275.4933 (pause 0.45) 3275.9412 3291 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3275.9412 But like, 3276.3817 3292 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3276.3817 (pause 0.85) 3277.2325 3293 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3277.2325 3277.3025 3294 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3277.3025 (pause 1.18) 3278.4837 3295 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3278.4837 I don't know who here. 3279.2778 3296 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3279.2778 (pause 0.52) 3279.7950 3297 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3279.7950 You would be borderline. 3280.7926 3298 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3280.7926 (pause 0.60) 3281.3932 3299 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3281.3932 I'm trying to think who here. 3282.4987 3300 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3282.4987 (pause 0.71) 3283.2125 3301 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3283.2125 /I don't know./ 3283.6262 3302 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3283.6262 (pause 1.04) 3284.6639 3303 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3284.6639 /RD-NAME-2/ for example. 3285.6014 3304 DCB_int_01 3285.9017 Mm-hm. 3286.1937 3305 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3286.1854 He could be like, 3286.9528 3306 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3287.7769 as Dominican as they come 3289.2392 3307 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3289.2392 (pause 0.43) 3289.6662 3308 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3289.6662 and he would be considered, 3290.6138 3309 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3290.6138 (pause 0.47) 3291.0876 3310 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3291.0876 oh, he's dark. 3292.0752 3311 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3292.0752 (pause 0.52) 3292.5991 3312 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3292.5991 And you have like, 3293.2797 3313 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3293.2797 (pause 0.56) 3293.8370 3314 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3293.8370 the 3294.5109 3315 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3294.5109 (pause 0.51) 3295.0256 3316 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3295.0256 Jessica Alba looking Dominicans, white looking Dominicans and they're like- they're like they're better. 3298.4690 3317 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3298.4690 (pause 0.69) 3299.1596 3318 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3299.1596 [And it's like,] 3299.5967 3319 DCB_int_01 3299.1730 [Mm.] 3299.4599 3320 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3300.0680 3300.1781 3321 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3300.1781 (pause 0.52) 3300.6986 3322 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3300.6986 No. 3301.0289 3323 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3301.0289 (pause 0.55) 3301.5795 3324 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3301.5795 Your skin literally does not make- (laughing) 3303.0876 3325 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3303.0876 (pause 0.52) 3303.6115 3326 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3303.6115 You don't come off smarter, 3304.6425 3327 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3304.6425 (pause 0.28) 3304.9227 3328 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3304.9227 you don't come off brighter, you don't come off dumber, 3306.5121 3329 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3306.5121 (pause 0.73) 3307.2425 3330 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3307.2425 you know. 3307.6128 3331 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3307.6128 (pause 0.53) 3308.1400 3332 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3308.1400 So- um, 3309.0976 3333 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3309.0976 (pause 0.39) 3309.4880 3334 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3309.4880 3309.5581 3335 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3309.5581 (pause 0.13) 3309.6915 3336 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3309.6915 but- I'm- I'm off track but, 3310.9694 3337 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3310.9694 (pause 0.27) 3311.2430 3338 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3311.2430 I think that the two coexist. 3312.6452 3339 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3312.6452 (pause 0.37) 3313.0189 3340 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3313.0189 The racism, 3313.7063 3341 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3313.7063 (pause 0.37) 3314.0733 3342 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3314.0733 and the classism, I think they both 3315.8306 3343 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3315.8306 (pause 0.21) 3316.0419 3344 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3316.0419 coexist. 3316.7092 3345 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3316.7092 (pause 0.57) 3317.2797 3346 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3317.2797 And 3317.8303 3347 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3317.8303 (pause 0.34) 3318.1714 3348 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3318.1714 it is all about the upbringing, you know. 3319.9665 3349 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3319.9665 (pause 0.42) 3320.3869 3350 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3320.3869 Some of the white people that think they're better is because they was taught they were better. Now that could be a good and a bad thing. 3323.9738 3351 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3323.9738 (pause 0.63) 3324.6085 3352 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3324.6085 If we taught our kids they was better, 3326.3035 3353 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3326.3035 (pause 2.09) 3328.3922 3354 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3328.3922 you know, look at- look at how much of a difference that could make. 3330.4617 3355 DCB_int_01 3330.5652 Mm. 3330.8888 3356 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3331.2959 So, 3331.6796 3357 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3331.6796 (pause 0.16) 3331.8431 3358 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3331.8431 they was taught 3332.6806 3359 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3332.6806 (pause 0.29) 3332.9708 3360 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3332.9708 that they were better, 3333.7883 3361 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3333.7883 (pause 0.40) 3334.1887 3362 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3334.1887 now there's a way you teach- You don't teach your kids you're better and these people are nothing. 3337.5379 3363 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3337.5379 (pause 0.26) 3337.7930 3364 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3337.7930 That's where the- 3338.4403 3365 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3338.4403 (pause 0.18) 3338.6238 3366 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3338.6238 the break down is. 3339.5180 3367 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3339.5180 (pause 0.43) 3339.9451 3368 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3339.9451 But 3340.1520 3369 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3340.1520 (pause 0.23) 3340.3789 3370 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3340.3789 if we taught our kids 3341.6743 3371 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3341.6743 (pause 0.43) 3342.1014 3372 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3342.1014 to be better, 3342.7854 3373 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3342.7854 (pause 0.36) 3343.1424 3374 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3343.1424 and that they are better than, 3344.4937 3375 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3344.4937 (pause 0.42) 3344.9175 3376 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3344.9175 not better than someone but better than 3346.6291 3377 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3346.6291 (pause 0.41) 3347.0362 3378 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3347.0362 your stereotypes, better than 3348.6419 3379 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3348.6419 (pause 0.23) 3348.8755 3380 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3348.8755 your environment, better than your neighborhood, better than, 3351.4780 3381 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3351.4780 (pause 0.60) 3352.0752 3382 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3352.0752 you know, all these things around you. You are better. 3354.1372 3383 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3354.1372 (pause 0.85) 3354.9922 3384 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3354.9922 It can- they would go so much further. That's how- what I was taught growing up. 3357.5214 3385 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3357.5214 (pause 0.62) 3358.1420 3386 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3358.1420 So. 3358.4690 3387 DCB_int_01 3358.7826 And that's why you had conversations about the stock market. 3360.5952 3388 DCB_se3_ag3_f_02 3361.0223 Yes, exactly. 3362.0967