Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_int_01 0.5051 Perfect. 1.0787 2 DCB_int_01 1.0787 (pause 0.50) 1.5823 3 DCB_int_01 1.5823 And what's your birthday? 2.4496 4 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2.9800 September eighth, 3.8939 5 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3.8939 (pause 0.72) 4.6167 6 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 4.6167 nineteen eighty two. 5.5679 7 DCB_int_01 8.1978 And where do you consider your home town? Where were you born? 10.7053 8 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 11.6751 I was born 12.3419 9 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 12.3419 (pause 0.30) 12.6404 10 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 12.6404 um, on Scott Air Force Base in St. Louis- 15.3309 11 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 15.3309 (pause 0.59) 15.9172 12 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 15.9172 Well in Illinois. 16.8871 13 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 16.8871 (pause 0.54) 17.4280 14 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 17.4280 It wasn't really St. Louis. 18.3233 15 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 18.3233 (pause 0.11) 18.4352 16 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 18.4352 But we m- 18.7709 17 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 18.7709 (pause 0.20) 18.9714 18 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 18.9714 I lived in St. Louis, 19.9413 19 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 19.9413 (pause 0.24) 20.1838 20 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 20.1838 um, when I was- after I was born there. 21.6514 21 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 21.6514 (pause 0.21) 21.8613 22 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 21.8613 22.0898 23 DCB_int_01 22.5747 Um, and then when'd you move to DC? 24.2580 24 DCB_int_01 24.2580 (pause 0.83) 25.0880 25 DCB_int_01 25.0880 Or, move to the area? 26.1838 26 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 26.4309 I moved um, to the area 28.4563 27 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 28.4563 (pause 1.20) 29.6612 28 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 29.6612 when I was three 30.4818 29 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 30.4818 (pause 0.39) 30.8688 30 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 30.8688 [so] 31.3072 31 DCB_int_01 30.8735 [Mm.] 31.0414 32 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 32.0625 nineteen eighty five. 33.0478 33 DCB_int_01 38.3785 And what neighborhoods do you claim, 40.2203 34 DCB_int_01 40.2203 (pause 0.71) 40.9291 35 DCB_int_01 40.9291 not just currently but 42.1228 36 DCB_int_01 42.1228 (pause 0.26) 42.3839 37 DCB_int_01 42.3839 around the area? 43.2792 38 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 44.2631 I grew up in Forestville, Maryland, 45.9126 39 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 45.9126 (pause 0.26) 46.1737 40 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 46.1737 which is sometimes called District Heights, Maryland, 47.8290 41 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 47.8290 (pause 1.86) 49.6849 42 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 49.6849 and um, 50.4962 43 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 50.4962 (pause 0.13) 50.6303 44 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 50.6303 I went to school in 51.7214 45 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 51.7214 (pause 0.41) 52.1271 46 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 52.1271 Northeast 52.7565 47 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 52.7565 (pause 0.97) 53.7218 48 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 53.7218 as a kid 54.4119 49 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 54.4119 (pause 0.23) 54.6450 50 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 54.6450 um, when we first moved here. 56.1931 51 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 56.1931 (pause 0.09) 56.2864 52 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 56.2864 Then I went to schools in uh, Maryland, but 58.0898 53 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 58.0898 (pause 1.01) 59.1016 54 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 59.1016 now I live 59.7171 55 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 59.7171 (pause 0.20) 59.9129 56 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 59.9129 back in Northeast 60.8082 57 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 60.8082 (pause 0.15) 60.9621 58 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 60.9621 in uh, Lincoln Heights. 62.1232 59 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 62.1232 (pause 1.14) 63.2598 60 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 63.2598 So Forestville and Lincoln Heights are where I- 65.4793 61 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 65.4793 (pause 1.29) 66.7663 62 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 66.7663 where I've resided. 67.6802 63 DCB_int_01 68.4729 You don't live far from here. 69.5155 64 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 69.8939 No. 70.0758 65 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 70.0758 (pause 0.56) 70.6400 66 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 70.6400 I- 70.8405 67 DCB_int_01 71.0830 Like down the street. 72.2067 68 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 72.2067 Three minutes, [like-] 73.0507 69 DCB_int_01 72.7429 [] 73.3724 70 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 73.4237 [] 74.4402 71 DCB_int_01 73.9460 [Okay.] 74.4729 72 DCB_int_01 74.7806 I didn't- 75.2189 73 DCB_int_01 75.2189 (pause 0.27) 75.4929 74 DCB_int_01 75.4929 I knew you said you lived in Northea- I didn't even make that connection. 78.0015 75 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 78.0715 Mm-hm. 78.3419 76 DCB_int_01 78.5844 Alright so where'd you go to school? 79.5729 77 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 80.1511 80.2118 78 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 80.2118 (pause 0.12) 80.3283 79 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 80.3283 So I went to school- 81.2737 80 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 81.2737 (pause 0.54) 81.8100 81 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 81.8100 Uh, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School 83.5073 82 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 83.5073 (pause 0.33) 83.8383 83 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 83.8383 in Walker Mill. 84.6124 84 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 84.6124 (pause 0.72) 85.3351 85 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 85.3351 Um, 85.7455 86 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 85.7455 (pause 0.56) 86.3050 87 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 86.3050 before that I went to /RD-SCHOOL-6/ 88.0898 88 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 88.0898 (pause 0.44) 88.5327 89 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 88.5327 [um,] 89.0783 90 DCB_int_01 88.5374 [Mm.] 88.8078 91 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 89.6985 in Lincoln Heights 90.4678 92 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 90.4678 (pause 0.30) 90.7709 93 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 90.7709 when we first moved here. 91.8201 94 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 91.8201 (pause 0.64) 92.4624 95 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 92.4624 And that was like my pre K three, 94.3835 96 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 94.3835 (pause 0.22) 94.6027 97 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 94.6027 pre K four 95.2695 98 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 95.2695 (pause 0.44) 95.7124 99 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 95.7124 days. 96.0249 100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 96.0249 (pause 0.68) 96.7056 101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 96.7056 My mom is a DC- 97.5403 102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 97.5403 (pause 0.10) 97.6382 103 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 97.6382 DC teacher, so she taught there, and we went to school there. 99.8753 104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 99.8753 (pause 0.26) 100.1364 105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 100.1364 But 100.2949 106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 100.2949 (pause 0.72) 101.0177 107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 101.0177 after /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School, 102.4445 108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 102.4445 (pause 0.36) 102.8036 109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 102.8036 graduated from there and went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ Middle School 105.3029 110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 105.3029 (pause 0.69) 105.9965 111 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 105.9965 in Upper Marlboro, 106.8685 112 DCB_int_01 107.2928 Mm-hm. 107.6332 113 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 108.0762 Maryland. 108.5984 114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 108.5984 (pause 0.38) 108.9761 115 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 108.9761 And then 109.6056 116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 109.6056 (pause 0.29) 109.8947 117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 109.8947 went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School 110.9858 118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 110.9858 (pause 0.78) 111.7634 119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 111.7634 in Largo, Maryland. 112.3835 120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 112.3835 (pause 2.24) 114.6264 121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 114.6264 Then um, /RD-SCHOOL-8/ 116.4076 122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 116.4076 (pause 1.09) 117.4976 123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 117.4976 in Bowie, Maryland. It's where I graduated. 118.9664 124 DCB_int_01 120.6077 And what's your current occupation? 121.8341 125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 122.4076 I am 123.1816 126 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 123.1816 (pause 0.25) 123.4276 127 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 123.4276 the lead pastor of /RD-WORK-5/, 125.5958 128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 125.5958 (pause 1.99) 127.5869 129 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 127.5869 and I am also 128.6454 130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 128.6454 (pause 0.52) 129.1618 131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 129.1618 the CEO of 130.2809 132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 130.2809 (pause 0.42) 130.7006 133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 130.7006 /RD-WORK-3/ 131.6321 134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 131.6321 (pause 0.81) 132.4445 135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 132.4445 /RD-WORK-4/ 133.1952 136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 133.1952 (pause 1.91) 135.1059 137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 135.1059 which is a multi media 136.2436 138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 136.2436 (pause 0.28) 136.5187 139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 136.5187 faith based 137.1995 140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 137.1995 (pause 0.39) 137.5912 141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 137.5912 uh, company. 138.2627 142 DCB_int_01 141.2924 And what about your parents? Where was your dad and- your mom and dad born? 143.9689 143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 144.7663 Um, my mom and dad are from Mississippi. 146.5895 144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 146.5895 (pause 0.49) 147.0826 145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 147.0826 So my father was born 148.3042 146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 148.3042 (pause 0.51) 148.8125 147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 148.8125 in 149.2555 148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 149.2555 (pause 0.19) 149.4467 149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 149.4467 uh, Hattiesburg, Mississippi, 150.9994 150 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 150.9994 (pause 1.36) 152.3610 151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 152.3610 and my mother 153.2096 152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 153.2096 (pause 0.09) 153.3017 153 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 153.3017 is from Smith- 154.4861 154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 154.4861 (pause 0.13) 154.6167 155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 154.6167 Smithville, Mississippi, 155.7451 156 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 155.7451 (pause 0.73) 156.4772 157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 156.4772 the farmlands. 157.2465 158 DCB_int_01 158.0113 Okay, I have no clue [where that is.] 159.9219 159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 159.1525 [] 159.9079 160 DCB_int_01 160.3649 What'd your parents do? 161.3347 161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 161.8430 So my dad 162.5518 162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 162.5518 (pause 0.21) 162.7569 163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 162.7569 um, 163.3211 164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 163.3211 (pause 0.61) 163.9273 165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 163.9273 he was in the Army National Guard. 165.6608 166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 165.6608 (pause 1.36) 167.0223 167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 167.0223 Um, 167.4047 168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 167.4047 (pause 0.18) 167.5865 169 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 167.5865 so he is now l- 168.4305 170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 168.4305 (pause 0.17) 168.6031 171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 168.6031 a retired lieutenant colonel. 169.9087 172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 169.9087 (pause 1.39) 171.2971 173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 171.2971 And my mother 172.0804 174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 172.0804 (pause 0.68) 172.7565 175 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 172.7565 uh, was a DC school teacher, so my mom has worked in DCPS 175.7315 176 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 175.7315 (pause 0.65) 176.3843 177 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 176.3843 maybe twenty five years, something like that. 177.9219 178 DCB_int_01 182.3190 So 182.7247 179 DCB_int_01 182.7247 (pause 0.31) 183.0359 180 DCB_int_01 183.0359 let's start from the beginning. 184.5794 181 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 184.9198 Alright. 185.2555 182 DCB_int_01 185.6798 You said you 186.3000 183 DCB_int_01 186.3000 (pause 0.24) 186.5424 184 DCB_int_01 186.5424 came here when you were about 187.7688 185 DCB_int_01 187.7688 (pause 0.23) 187.9973 186 DCB_int_01 187.9973 three 188.5009 187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 188.6361 [Mm-hn.] 188.9921 188 DCB_int_01 188.8681 [or] so. 189.4474 189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 189.6328 [Mm-hm.] 189.8613 190 DCB_int_01 189.7913 [And] you were in Northeast. 191.2648 191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 191.2928 Mm-hm. 191.5586 192 DCB_int_01 191.7031 Um, how did you guys start out in Northeast and then move to Maryland? 194.8459 193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 195.4929 So 195.9639 194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 195.9639 (pause 0.33) 196.2903 195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 196.2903 uh, my mom 197.0830 196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 197.0830 (pause 0.23) 197.3161 197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 197.3161 taught at the 198.1508 198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 198.1508 (pause 0.11) 198.2627 199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 198.2627 private Christian school called /RD-SCHOOL-6/, which is now 201.1024 200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 201.1024 (pause 0.51) 201.6095 201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 201.6095 uh, 201.9126 202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 201.9126 (pause 0.11) 202.0198 203 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 202.0198 closed up, 202.6073 204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 202.6073 (pause 0.26) 202.8638 205 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 202.8638 condemned. 203.3907 206 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 203.3907 (pause 0.40) 203.7871 207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 203.7871 Not condemned but it's- it's closed up. 205.3584 208 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 205.3584 (pause 0.69) 206.0532 209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 206.0532 But um, 206.6653 210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 206.6653 (pause 0.17) 206.8308 211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 206.8308 so my mom working there we were able to go there 208.7519 212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 208.7519 (pause 0.76) 209.5073 213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 209.5073 um, until we were of age to go to 211.3864 214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 211.3864 (pause 0.52) 211.9087 215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 211.9087 PG County, 212.5382 216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 212.5382 (pause 0.64) 213.1758 217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 213.1758 and we moved to Forestville, 214.4348 218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 214.4348 (pause 0.68) 215.1109 219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 215.1109 um, 215.6705 220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 215.6705 (pause 0.21) 215.8756 221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 215.8756 started going to school, 217.0181 222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 217.0181 (pause 0.61) 217.6289 223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 217.6289 217.6895 224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 217.6895 (pause 0.17) 217.8574 225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 217.8574 and uh, 218.7247 226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 218.7247 (pause 0.28) 219.0091 227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 219.0091 yeah. 219.2796 228 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 219.2796 (pause 0.48) 219.7587 229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 219.7587 We lived in Forestville for most of my life, 221.5399 230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 221.5399 (pause 0.78) 222.3233 231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 222.3233 and uh, 222.9061 232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 222.9061 (pause 0.54) 223.4424 233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 223.4424 when I got married, 224.2164 234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 224.2164 (pause 0.61) 224.8273 235 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 224.8273 my wife and I 225.5267 236 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 225.5267 (pause 0.41) 225.9405 237 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 225.9405 mo- lived briefly in Upper Marlboro before 228.1694 238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 228.1694 (pause 0.53) 228.7010 239 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 228.7010 um, we moved here to DC. 230.0252 240 DCB_int_01 230.5603 So tell me a little about your neighborhood in Forestville growing up. Was it [a lot] of kids? Did you live in a townhouse? [Apartment?] 236.7433 241 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 234.2533 [Hm.] 234.5005 242 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 234.5005 (pause 1.87) 236.3750 243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 236.3750 [Mm-hm.] 236.7480 244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 237.4230 Yeah we lived in a townhouse- uh, townhouse complex. 239.9134 245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 239.9134 (pause 0.52) 240.4352 246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 240.4352 Um, 241.0787 247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 241.0787 (pause 0.68) 241.7595 248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 241.7595 had a lot of fun. 242.3843 249 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 242.3843 (pause 0.59) 242.9707 250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 242.9707 You- There were uh- Growing up in the nineties, there were 245.6425 251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 245.6425 (pause 0.21) 245.8570 252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 245.8570 lot of 246.3513 253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 246.3513 (pause 0.07) 246.4259 254 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 246.4259 you know, 246.8082 255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 246.8082 (pause 0.58) 247.3864 256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 247.3864 temptations to get pulled in the wrong direction. 249.4836 257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 249.4836 (pause 0.61) 250.0944 258 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 250.0944 Um, 250.7705 259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 250.7705 (pause 0.84) 251.6099 260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 251.6099 you know, amidst of having fun 253.4377 261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 253.4377 (pause 0.53) 253.9646 262 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 253.9646 we would um, also have to avoid certain things in the a- in the streets that we knew we weren't supposed to be involved in. 259.4004 263 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 259.4004 (pause 0.56) 259.9600 264 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 259.9600 And uh, 260.6967 265 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 260.6967 (pause 0.43) 261.1292 266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 261.1292 yeah. It was pretty interesting just kind of 262.8405 267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 262.8405 (pause 0.40) 263.2368 268 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 263.2368 experiencing 264.1974 269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 264.1974 (pause 0.71) 264.9061 270 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 264.9061 the dynamics 265.8760 271 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 265.8760 (pause 0.39) 266.2631 272 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 266.2631 of 266.8552 273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 266.8552 (pause 0.57) 267.4276 274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 267.4276 being middle class black family, 269.3161 275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 269.3161 (pause 0.50) 269.8150 276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 269.8150 but having this 270.9761 277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 270.9761 (pause 0.68) 271.6522 278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 271.6522 um, 272.3143 279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 272.3143 (pause 1.46) 273.7773 280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 273.7773 kind of a 274.6773 281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 274.6773 (pause 0.21) 274.8871 282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 274.8871 hood mentality 275.8663 283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 275.8663 (pause 0.38) 276.2440 284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 276.2440 in the neighborhood. It was a unique hybrid 278.1838 285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 278.1838 (pause 0.72) 278.9054 286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 278.9054 in PG County 279.8519 287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 279.8519 (pause 0.62) 280.4768 288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 280.4768 um, 281.0923 289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 281.0923 (pause 0.87) 281.9642 290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 281.9642 especially with the gentrification that started coming to DC. 284.6128 291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 284.6128 (pause 0.60) 285.2085 292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 285.2085 We started having more elements of what a lot of people normally associated with 288.5891 293 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 288.5891 (pause 0.51) 289.1020 294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 289.1020 Northeast and Southeast 290.0998 295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 290.0998 (pause 0.36) 290.4589 296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 290.4589 parts of DC 291.3075 297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 291.3075 (pause 0.59) 291.8939 298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 291.8939 as far as crime and drugs, things like that, 294.0762 299 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 294.0762 (pause 0.43) 294.5051 300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 294.5051 you know, in our- in our community. 296.2071 301 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 296.2071 (pause 0.11) 296.3190 302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 296.3190 So we were exposed to that, 297.6000 303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 297.6000 (pause 0.56) 298.1550 304 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 298.1550 and tryna- 298.7239 305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 298.7239 (pause 0.25) 298.9757 306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 298.9757 for me as a kid, I was tryna walk the- 300.5285 307 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 300.5285 (pause 0.83) 301.3538 308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 301.3538 walk the straight and narrow cause I- I grew up in a home where we- 303.6748 309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 303.6748 (pause 0.23) 303.9079 310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 303.9079 we learned about Jesus, learned about God, 305.6425 311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 305.6425 (pause 0.52) 306.1601 312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 306.1601 but 306.4399 313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 306.4399 (pause 0.17) 306.6077 314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 306.6077 you know, there were temptations pulling 307.9227 315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 307.9227 (pause 0.14) 308.0672 316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 308.0672 also. 308.4589 317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 308.4589 (pause 0.52) 308.9800 318 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 308.9800 So you have this 309.9032 319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 309.9032 (pause 0.57) 310.4721 320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 310.4721 kind of dichotomy going on where it's like, you know, uh, 313.0460 321 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 313.0460 (pause 0.41) 313.4564 322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 313.4564 I know I should do the right thing, but- 315.9359 323 DCB_int_01 316.4395 316.7799 324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 316.8078 You know. 317.1342 325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 317.1342 (pause 0.82) 317.9549 326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 317.9549 I could ask forgiveness. 318.9761 327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 318.9761 (pause 0.10) 319.0787 328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 319.0787 Um, so 319.8760 329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 319.8760 (pause 0.27) 320.1465 330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 320.1465 just growing up like that, I had to really 321.6000 331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 321.6000 (pause 0.70) 322.2996 332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 322.2996 make sure that um, 323.6332 333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 323.6332 (pause 0.64) 324.2720 334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 324.2720 I had a faith of my own in God, 325.8294 335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 325.8294 (pause 0.20) 326.0252 336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 326.0252 and that's really 326.7014 337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 326.7014 (pause 0.53) 327.2318 338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 327.2318 one of the strong points in my life that kept me from 329.3441 339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 329.3441 (pause 0.60) 329.9409 340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 329.9409 doing a lot of criminal activity that a lot of my friends ended up 332.1651 341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 332.1651 (pause 0.11) 332.2724 342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 332.2724 doing, 332.7014 343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 332.7014 (pause 0.64) 333.3390 344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 333.3390 um, 333.8799 345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 333.8799 (pause 0.43) 334.3136 346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 334.3136 and just getting involved in, so. 335.6798 347 DCB_int_01 336.5937 Were you an only child? 338.0859 348 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 338.3237 No actually, I'm a middle child. So I have a older brother, 341.1016 349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 341.1016 (pause 0.22) 341.3254 350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 341.3254 and I have a younger brother. 342.6870 351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 342.6870 (pause 0.90) 343.5916 352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 343.5916 And so I'm dead smack in the middle. 345.0837 353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 345.0837 (pause 0.13) 345.2131 354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 345.2131 Three- my parents had three boys, so. 346.9058 355 DCB_int_01 347.5632 So tell me about growing up 348.6590 356 DCB_int_01 348.6590 (pause 0.17) 348.8315 357 DCB_int_01 348.8315 as a middle child, and then talk a little bit about your brothers. 352.0525 358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 352.6866 Um, 353.2415 359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 353.2415 (pause 0.16) 353.4047 360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 353.4047 middle child, 354.0435 361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 354.0435 (pause 0.28) 354.3186 362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 354.3186 um- 354.8176 363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 354.8176 (pause 0.98) 355.7968 364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 355.7968 It was pretty cool. 356.5242 365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 356.5242 (pause 0.69) 357.2131 366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 357.2131 I um- 357.9778 367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 357.9778 (pause 0.80) 358.7799 368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 358.7799 I was the skinniest of 359.9596 369 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 359.9596 (pause 0.16) 360.1181 370 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 360.1181 my brothers, so I got all their hand me downs. 361.9879 371 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 361.9879 (pause 0.53) 362.5148 372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 362.5148 Even my l- younger brother was bigger than me. 364.2716 373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 364.2716 (pause 0.59) 364.8591 374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 364.8591 So 365.2741 375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 365.2741 (pause 0.45) 365.7218 376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 365.7218 it was just pretty fun 366.6077 377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 366.6077 (pause 0.20) 366.8036 378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 366.8036 to just get clothes from your little brother 368.5895 379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 368.5895 (pause 0.69) 369.2784 380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 369.2784 and no one buys you clothes because you can fit everybody else's. (laughing) 372.0015 381 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 372.0015 (pause 0.49) 372.4911 382 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 372.4911 But um- 373.0274 383 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 373.0274 (pause 0.45) 373.4797 384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 373.4797 that's not true. They bought me clothes but 374.8273 385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 374.8273 (pause 0.68) 375.5069 386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 375.5069 I got a lot of hand me downs. 376.3695 387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 376.3695 (pause 0.42) 376.7892 388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 376.7892 It was pretty cool. Um, 377.9456 389 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 377.9456 (pause 0.88) 378.8269 390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 378.8269 my older brother's three years older than me, so 380.4123 391 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 380.4123 (pause 0.52) 380.9287 392 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 380.9287 we kind of had a gap. 381.7820 393 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 381.7820 (pause 0.11) 381.8893 394 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 381.8893 We don't really- we didn't really play together as much as my little brother. He's just one year younger than me. 385.0507 395 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 385.0507 (pause 0.50) 385.5543 396 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 385.5543 So we had 386.1698 397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 386.1698 (pause 0.14) 386.3050 398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 386.3050 a lot more 387.0045 399 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 387.0045 (pause 0.32) 387.3204 400 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 387.3204 synergy 387.9825 401 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 387.9825 (pause 0.58) 388.5607 402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 388.5607 playing with toys, playing sports together, things like that. 391.2699 403 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 391.2699 (pause 0.69) 391.9553 404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 391.9553 But um, 392.4356 405 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 392.4356 (pause 0.74) 393.1758 406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 393.1758 over all, it was pretty fun. We were video game 395.0410 407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 395.0410 (pause 0.43) 395.4746 408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 395.4746 fanatics, 396.0948 409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 396.0948 (pause 0.71) 396.8036 410 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 396.8036 so when we were kids, 398.3983 411 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 398.3983 (pause 0.24) 398.6361 412 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 398.6361 of course, Nintendo, Sega Genesis. 400.3835 413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 400.3835 (pause 0.76) 401.1482 414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 401.1482 And then when the Nintendo Sixty Four came out when I was like, 403.5869 415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 403.5869 (pause 0.29) 403.8807 416 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 403.8807 starting high school, 404.6967 417 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 404.6967 (pause 0.10) 404.7946 418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 404.7946 I was just hooked. 405.4754 419 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 405.4754 (pause 0.21) 405.6887 420 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 405.6887 So I was like, well, 406.3695 421 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 406.3695 (pause 0.60) 406.9710 422 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 406.9710 no more homework for me. 407.9736 423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 407.9736 (pause 0.66) 408.6310 424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 408.6310 And we just- 409.0507 425 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 409.0507 (pause 0.35) 409.3958 426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 409.3958 we would get a big bowl of cereal, 410.6221 427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 410.6221 (pause 0.54) 411.1665 428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 411.1665 uh, Frosted Flakes- 412.2669 429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 412.2669 (pause 0.29) 412.5607 430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 412.5607 we'd get a tub of it, 413.5119 431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 413.5119 (pause 0.71) 414.2254 432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 414.2254 and we would just go in the basement and just spend hours 416.5615 433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 416.5615 (pause 0.24) 416.7993 434 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 416.7993 playing video games. 417.6654 435 DCB_int_01 417.6468 What was your favorite? 418.3602 436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 418.7565 418.8405 437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 418.8405 (pause 1.03) 419.8710 438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 419.8710 My favorite video game was 421.0647 439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 421.0647 (pause 0.15) 421.2186 440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 421.2186 probably 422.0532 441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 422.0532 (pause 0.49) 422.5475 442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 422.5475 WCW vs NWO, 424.4675 443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 424.4675 (pause 0.20) 424.6633 444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 424.6633 which is a wrestling game. 425.7544 445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 425.7544 (pause 1.10) 426.8549 446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 426.8549 And it tied with like, GoldenEye Double O Seven. 429.5955 447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 429.5955 (pause 0.19) 429.7867 448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 429.7867 It's like a 430.1410 449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 430.1410 (pause 0.26) 430.3975 450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 430.3975 first person shooter game. 431.5306 451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 431.5306 (pause 0.76) 432.2860 452 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 432.2860 So before all the new games like Halo and Call of Duty, 435.0557 453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 435.0557 (pause 0.40) 435.4603 454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 435.4603 it was Double Oh Seven, and it was just a first person shooter game. 437.9782 455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 437.9782 (pause 0.44) 438.4165 456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 438.4165 So tha- those were like revolutionary games, and I was like, man, 441.6000 457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 441.6000 (pause 0.52) 442.1224 458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 442.1224 no need to see the sunlight. 443.0317 459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 443.0317 (pause 0.21) 443.2368 460 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 443.2368 I'm just in here. 444.0155 461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 444.0155 (pause 0.82) 444.8362 462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 444.8362 So I really feel bad for kids now having all this technology, 447.0639 463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 447.0639 (pause 0.19) 447.2551 464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 447.2551 tryna focus in school. 448.2250 465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 448.2250 (pause 0.61) 448.8312 466 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 448.8312 I probably would have just 449.5726 467 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 449.5726 (pause 0.07) 449.6378 468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 449.6378 flunked high school 450.5685 469 DCB_int_01 450.5564 [] 452.4076 470 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 451.7968 [with all the video] games that they have now. 453.3402 471 DCB_int_01 454.5467 So 455.0923 472 DCB_int_01 455.0923 (pause 0.20) 455.2928 473 DCB_int_01 455.2928 how did your- did you guys move here because your dad was in the military? 458.8459 474 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 459.2411 Yeah, so my dad got stationed- 461.2741 475 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 461.2741 (pause 0.52) 461.7964 476 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 461.7964 my dad was stationed at- 462.8036 477 DCB_int_01 462.7616 463.4937 478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 463.6382 Um, he was stationed at Scott Air Force Base 465.5069 479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 465.5069 (pause 0.44) 465.9452 480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 465.9452 um, where I- where I was born. 467.3674 481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 467.3674 (pause 0.32) 467.6845 482 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 467.6845 And you know, being a military brat, 469.0787 483 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 469.0787 (pause 0.57) 469.6522 484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 469.6522 people normally expect 470.8226 485 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 470.8226 (pause 0.14) 470.9660 486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 470.9660 that I moved around a lot, 472.0198 487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 472.0198 (pause 0.15) 472.1737 488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 472.1737 but th- 472.4115 489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 472.4115 (pause 0.08) 472.4954 490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 472.4954 that was actually our last stop. 473.6798 491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 473.6798 (pause 0.43) 474.1088 492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 474.1088 After I was born, the last stop was 475.8341 493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 475.8341 (pause 0.55) 476.3889 494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 476.3889 the DC Armory. 477.1164 495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 477.1164 (pause 0.37) 477.4882 496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 477.4882 So my dad was working at the DC Armory right by RFK Stadium, 480.4119 497 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 480.4119 (pause 0.57) 480.9854 498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 480.9854 and uh, that's how we got here. 482.2864 499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 482.2864 (pause 0.60) 482.8832 500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 482.8832 And um, 483.5080 501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 483.5080 (pause 0.59) 484.0991 502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 484.0991 yeah, 484.5933 503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 484.5933 (pause 0.37) 484.9617 504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 484.9617 just been here ever since. 485.8617 505 DCB_int_01 486.7476 So tell me about 487.9646 506 DCB_int_01 487.9646 (pause 0.52) 488.4869 507 DCB_int_01 488.4869 um- 489.1537 508 DCB_int_01 489.1537 (pause 0.43) 489.5815 509 DCB_int_01 489.5815 okay so your mom worked for DCPS, 491.4280 510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 491.3721 Mm-hm. 491.7358 511 DCB_int_01 492.4165 and so you were- 493.6662 512 DCB_int_01 493.6662 (pause 0.33) 493.9926 513 DCB_int_01 493.9926 well you were kind of in and out of 495.5955 514 DCB_int_01 495.5955 (pause 0.90) 496.4908 515 DCB_int_01 496.4908 the school system, or in DC [and in-] 498.6497 516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 498.1554 [Mm-hm.] 498.4911 517 DCB_int_01 499.0181 in um, Forestville. 500.7874 518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 500.8552 [Mm-hm.] 501.1245 519 DCB_int_01 501.0313 [So] tell me about elementary school. 502.7845 520 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 503.0783 [Yeah] yeah. 503.5819 521 DCB_int_01 503.0783 [Like-] 503.3254 522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 504.4072 Yeah, well, you know, I never went to school in my neighbor- 506.8832 523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 506.8832 (pause 0.07) 506.9520 524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 506.9520 in my city. It's so weird. 508.2157 525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 508.2157 (pause 0.38) 508.5933 526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 508.5933 I lived in Forestville, 509.7078 527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 509.7078 (pause 0.19) 509.8990 528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 509.8990 but went to elementary school in Walker Mill. 511.7688 529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 511.7688 (pause 0.28) 512.0532 530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 512.0532 Went to middle school in Upper Marlboro, 513.6000 531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 513.6000 (pause 0.31) 513.9079 532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 513.9079 went to high school in Largo. 514.8778 533 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 514.8778 (pause 0.12) 514.9944 534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 514.9944 But there's a elementary, middle, and high school in Forestville. 517.1719 535 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 517.1719 (pause 0.31) 517.4843 536 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 517.4843 So I lived right on that 518.3237 537 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 518.3237 (pause 0.70) 519.0278 538 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 519.0278 edge of the city l- l- 520.3835 539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 520.3835 (pause 0.17) 520.5560 540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 520.5560 like the divisor in the countr- in the county. 522.5145 541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 522.5145 (pause 0.42) 522.9341 542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 522.9341 But I didn't go 523.5590 543 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 523.5590 (pause 0.46) 524.0159 544 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 524.0159 in any of my city's schools. Anyway, 525.2050 545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 525.2050 (pause 0.54) 525.7400 546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 525.7400 um, elementary school was pretty fun. 527.4513 547 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 527.4513 (pause 0.35) 527.7964 548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 527.7964 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School, 529.2139 549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 529.2139 (pause 0.24) 529.4517 550 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 529.4517 which was 529.9180 551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 529.9180 (pause 0.32) 530.2351 552 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 530.2351 I believe the first- 531.5862 553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 531.5862 (pause 0.66) 532.2436 554 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 532.2436 if not the first, one of the first elementary schools 534.8315 555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 534.8315 (pause 1.02) 535.8481 556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 535.8481 um, to start uniforms. 536.9811 557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 536.9811 (pause 0.22) 537.2038 558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 537.2038 So before- 537.8380 559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 537.8380 (pause 0.16) 538.0012 560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 538.0012 before all these schools had uniforms, 539.6612 561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 539.6612 (pause 0.39) 540.0482 562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 540.0482 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School 541.4284 563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 541.4284 (pause 0.41) 541.8341 564 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 541.8341 had uniforms, 542.7666 565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 542.7666 (pause 0.12) 542.8821 566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 542.8821 home of the Bears. 543.9312 567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 543.9312 (pause 0.66) 544.5887 568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 544.5887 And I remember because 546.0715 569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 546.0715 (pause 0.21) 546.2860 570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 546.2860 we went to kindergarten there, I was like, 547.7361 571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 547.7361 (pause 0.82) 548.5603 572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 548.5603 why is everybody wearing white shirts and blue ties and blue pants? 551.6332 573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 551.6332 (pause 0.11) 551.7404 574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 551.7404 I was like, what is that? 552.2953 575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 552.2953 (pause 0.60) 552.8922 576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 552.8922 And um, 553.6755 577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 553.6755 (pause 0.29) 553.9693 578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 553.9693 they- they said that because the kids were having 555.9126 579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 555.9126 (pause 0.47) 556.3789 580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 556.3789 um, 556.8638 581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 556.8638 (pause 0.58) 557.4420 582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 557.4420 challenges, making fun of each other and not focusing in school, 560.2677 583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 560.2677 (pause 0.20) 560.4682 584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 560.4682 this school was test piloted- 561.8193 585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 561.8193 (pause 0.16) 561.9778 586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 561.9778 what if everybody wore the same thing? 563.4513 587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 563.4513 (pause 0.78) 564.2300 588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 564.2300 Would it help? 564.6730 589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 564.6730 (pause 0.60) 565.2699 590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 565.2699 And then they saw- they said it helped as far as kids being focused, so 568.3742 591 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 568.3742 (pause 0.53) 568.9058 592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 568.9058 we all wore the same thing. 569.9503 593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 569.9503 (pause 0.27) 570.2160 594 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 570.2160 570.3140 595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 570.3140 (pause 0.23) 570.5471 596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 570.5471 So elementary school was pretty fun, had some fun teachers. 572.7573 597 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 572.7573 (pause 0.53) 573.2877 598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 573.2877 Um, 573.7960 599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 573.7960 (pause 1.26) 575.0596 600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 575.0596 we used to uh, have those 576.3559 601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 576.3559 (pause 0.45) 576.8082 602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 576.8082 big posters on the wall in the school down the hallway like, 579.4696 603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 579.4696 (pause 0.47) 579.9359 604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 579.9359 DARE, 580.6213 605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 580.6213 (pause 0.26) 580.8824 606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 580.8824 say no to drugs, or 581.9596 607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 581.9596 (pause 0.44) 582.4026 608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 582.4026 Saved by the Bell. 583.4797 609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 583.4797 (pause 0.63) 584.1138 610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 584.1138 I actually went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School like, 585.9266 611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 585.9266 (pause 1.12) 587.0456 612 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 587.0456 five years ago, to visit, 588.2906 613 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 588.2906 (pause 0.37) 588.6637 614 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 588.6637 and the same 589.8014 615 DCB_int_01 589.9553 591.1210 616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 591.2936 black girl from Saved by the Bell, Lisa, 593.4280 617 DCB_int_01 593.5679 Mm-hm. 593.7824 618 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 594.3932 she is still 595.6056 619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 595.6056 (pause 0.18) 595.7874 620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 595.7874 on the wall (laughing). 597.0045 621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 597.0045 (pause 0.59) 597.5908 622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 597.5908 And I was just like, oh my gosh. 599.6658 623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 599.6658 (pause 0.53) 600.1927 624 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 600.1927 Like, 600.3932 625 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 600.3932 (pause 0.10) 600.4958 626 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 600.4958 Lark Voorhies is her name I think. 601.9740 627 DCB_int_01 602.1978 Mm. 602.3470 628 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 602.4869 Why- y'all couldn't get another poster? 603.9685 629 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 603.9685 (pause 0.65) 604.6167 630 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 604.6167 So /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 605.4327 631 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 605.4327 (pause 0.28) 605.7078 632 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 605.7078 God bless 'em. 606.2673 633 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 606.2673 (pause 0.08) 606.3513 634 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 606.3513 Hopefully they got a new poster now. But I was just like, man, y'all keeping it- um, 609.3169 635 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 609.3169 (pause 0.37) 609.6841 636 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 609.6841 609.7913 637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 609.7913 (pause 0.51) 610.2996 638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 610.2996 keeping it traditional here. 611.3068 639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 611.3068 (pause 0.45) 611.7591 640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 611.7591 And the same Chester the Cheetos 613.5170 641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 613.5170 (pause 0.21) 613.7315 642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 613.7315 advertisement from when I was a kid is still there. 615.5500 643 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 615.5500 (pause 0.61) 616.1644 644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 616.1644 But um, the school was great. 617.3581 645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 617.3581 (pause 0.10) 617.4560 646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 617.4560 Um, /RD-NAME-5/ was our principal. 619.7361 647 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 619.7361 (pause 0.45) 620.1838 648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 620.1838 She was a great- great woman. 621.2376 649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 621.2376 (pause 0.11) 621.3484 650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 621.3484 She's been a delegate now in PG County, 623.0177 651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 623.0177 (pause 0.56) 623.5819 652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 623.5819 and she really 624.2813 653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 624.2813 (pause 0.55) 624.8315 654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 624.8315 is kind of like a Joe Clarke. 625.8854 655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 625.8854 (pause 0.21) 626.0905 656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 626.0905 She- she kind of whipped us into shape 627.7447 657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 627.7447 (pause 0.49) 628.2343 658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 628.2343 um, cause the school wasn't like- really struggling, 630.3886 659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 630.3886 (pause 0.48) 630.8688 660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 630.8688 and she came in and like, really 632.2957 661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 632.2957 (pause 0.20) 632.4915 662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 632.4915 cracked the whip. 633.0045 663 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 633.0045 (pause 0.72) 633.7260 664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 633.7260 Um, 634.3602 665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 634.3602 (pause 0.64) 634.9990 666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 634.9990 yeah. 635.2881 667 DCB_int_01 636.6637 Did you have a favorite subject- I mean I know you were still young, but did you have a class or a teacher that you were like, 641.1902 668 DCB_int_01 641.1902 (pause 0.33) 641.5166 669 DCB_int_01 641.5166 I really like them. 642.5191 670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 643.1067 Yeah, uh, 644.0299 671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 644.0299 (pause 1.50) 645.5302 672 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 645.5302 uh, Miss /RD-NAME-3/. 646.8078 673 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 646.8078 (pause 0.27) 647.0736 674 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 647.0736 Sh- she was a- I- Irish lady. 648.4585 675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 648.4585 (pause 0.43) 648.8875 676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 648.8875 Miss /RD-NAME-3/ was real cool. 650.2164 677 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 650.2164 (pause 0.53) 650.7422 678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 650.7422 Um, 651.3017 679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 651.3017 (pause 0.14) 651.4416 680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 651.4416 my fourth grade teacher. 652.3882 681 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 652.3882 (pause 0.52) 652.9058 682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 652.9058 Um- cause my mom was a English teacher in DC, 655.0600 683 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 655.0600 (pause 0.43) 655.4937 684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 655.4937 but Miss /RD-NAME-3/ would really really- 656.9858 685 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 656.9858 (pause 0.44) 657.4230 686 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 657.4230 used to encourage me with like writing. 659.1902 687 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 659.1902 (pause 0.69) 659.8756 688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 659.8756 Um, 660.3839 689 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 660.3839 (pause 0.92) 661.3072 690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 661.3072 I didn't know later I would be 662.3656 691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 662.3656 (pause 0.44) 662.8028 692 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 662.8028 a pastor or 663.5955 693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 663.5955 (pause 0.87) 664.4675 694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 664.4675 you know, a rapper, 665.2415 695 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 665.2415 (pause 0.34) 665.5819 696 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 665.5819 you know. 665.9922 697 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 665.9922 (pause 0.39) 666.3839 698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 666.3839 So writing was gonna become something that I really did a lot of, but 669.2924 699 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 669.2924 (pause 0.30) 669.5955 700 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 669.5955 at the time, 670.2576 701 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 670.2576 (pause 0.42) 670.6819 702 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 670.6819 I was just interested in stories 672.0388 703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 672.0388 (pause 0.08) 672.1181 704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 672.1181 and writing. 672.6683 705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 672.6683 (pause 0.62) 673.2838 706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 673.2838 Um, 673.8574 707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 673.8574 (pause 0.37) 674.2257 708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 674.2257 so she was really really 675.1199 709 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 675.1199 (pause 0.16) 675.2831 710 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 675.2831 really great. 675.8380 711 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 675.8380 (pause 0.50) 676.3416 712 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 676.3416 And then um, Miss /RD-NAME-3/. 677.9642 713 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 677.9642 (pause 0.59) 678.5518 714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 678.5518 Miss- Miss /RD-NAME-1/- 679.2232 715 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 679.2232 (pause 0.35) 679.5683 716 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 679.5683 There was a Miss /RD-NAME-3/, then a Miss /RD-NAME-3/. 681.3344 717 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 681.3344 (pause 0.07) 681.3996 718 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 681.3996 So Miss /RD-NAME-3/ was my sixth grade teacher, 683.3301 719 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 683.3301 (pause 0.73) 684.0575 720 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 684.0575 and she- she's also a pastor 685.4890 721 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 685.4890 (pause 0.45) 685.9413 722 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 685.9413 um, of a church. 686.8133 723 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 686.8133 (pause 0.43) 687.2411 724 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 687.2411 Um, but she was a great teacher. She was 689.2135 725 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 689.2135 (pause 0.59) 689.8010 726 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 689.8010 just awesome. 690.4585 727 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 690.4585 (pause 0.37) 690.8315 728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 690.8315 She- she was very focused and helped us grow 693.0977 729 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 693.0977 (pause 0.47) 693.5722 730 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 693.5722 in o- in our- 694.2390 731 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 694.2390 (pause 0.15) 694.3882 732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 694.3882 in our English and reading. So that's my favorite subject, English and reading. 697.3305 733 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 697.3305 (pause 0.83) 698.1605 734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 698.1605 [And math-] 698.7154 735 DCB_int_01 698.1698 [I can see] why. 698.9112 736 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 699.2551 yeah math, 699.7820 737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 699.7820 (pause 0.25) 700.0291 738 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 700.0291 ugh- 700.9944 739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 700.9944 (pause 1.25) 702.2487 740 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 702.2487 uh, it's tough. 703.0460 741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 703.0460 (pause 0.36) 703.4097 742 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 703.4097 [] 704.2491 743 DCB_int_01 704.0719 [] 704.9718 744 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 704.7189 It was like, uh, 705.5442 745 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 705.7354 if I have to take it I will, 706.6120 746 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 706.6120 (pause 0.13) 706.7379 747 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 706.7379 but- 706.8871 748 DCB_int_01 707.2555 So how- okay, so we went- 708.4958 749 DCB_int_01 708.4958 (pause 0.24) 708.7383 750 DCB_int_01 708.7383 then the next school, 710.0672 751 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 711.0826 [At /RD-SCHOOL-4/.] 712.0478 752 DCB_int_01 711.0872 [you went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/.] 712.3742 753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 712.4954 Mm-hm. 712.8312 754 DCB_int_01 712.8078 How was middle school? Cause I know that's a weird time for- 715.3491 755 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 715.6102 Yeah. 715.9973 756 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 715.9973 (pause 0.72) 716.7200 757 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 716.7200 So middle school was interesting for a number of reasons. One, 719.2881 758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 719.2881 (pause 1.45) 720.7429 759 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 720.7429 I went from a school- 721.9646 760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 721.9646 (pause 0.54) 722.5055 761 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 722.5055 a elementary school that had uniforms to a middle school that didn't. 724.7519 762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 724.7519 (pause 1.01) 725.7591 763 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 725.7591 So I had never shopped for school. I had never like, 728.2351 764 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 728.2351 (pause 0.35) 728.5895 765 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 728.5895 shopped for clothes 729.9405 766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 729.9405 (pause 0.15) 730.0944 767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 730.0944 to wear. 730.5374 768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 730.5374 (pause 0.27) 730.8032 769 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 730.8032 I didn't know what was cool to wear cause we just wore uniforms. 733.6522 770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 733.6522 (pause 0.67) 734.3237 771 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 734.3237 So that's back when Karl Kani was real hot. 736.0991 772 DCB_int_01 736.2903 Mm. 736.4255 773 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 736.7146 It was just 737.3208 774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 737.3208 (pause 0.07) 737.3954 775 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 737.3954 a t-shirt with a big brass square on your chest. 740.1698 776 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 740.1698 (pause 0.72) 740.8879 777 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 740.8879 I'm like, come on Karl. 741.6794 778 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 741.6794 (pause 0.41) 742.0898 779 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 742.0898 God bless you Karl if you hear this recording. 743.7218 780 DCB_int_01 743.9036 [] 744.1787 781 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 743.9269 [But] 744.1041 782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 744.5937 dog, it was like a big 745.5263 783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 745.5263 (pause 0.42) 745.9460 784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 745.9460 brass 746.6034 785 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 746.6034 (pause 0.67) 747.2784 786 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 747.2784 rectangle with his name. 748.7612 787 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 748.7612 (pause 0.80) 749.5586 788 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 749.5586 And the shirt would get heavy right there. 751.3165 789 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 751.3165 (pause 0.26) 751.5729 790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 751.5729 If you washed it, it's like, metal- metal is like, on your chest. 754.8078 791 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 754.8078 (pause 0.92) 755.7264 792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 755.7264 I'm like, why not 756.5658 793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 756.5658 (pause 0.17) 756.7383 794 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 756.7383 use a silk screen or- 757.7828 795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 757.7828 (pause 0.56) 758.3470 796 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 758.3470 758.4356 797 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 758.4356 (pause 0.60) 759.0324 798 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 759.0324 anyway. So- 759.7307 799 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 759.7307 (pause 0.67) 760.4022 800 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 760.4022 so I got a- I got a Karl Kani shirt. 761.9922 801 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 761.9922 (pause 0.10) 762.0948 802 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 762.0948 We used to get those um, 763.1346 803 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 763.1346 (pause 0.40) 763.5310 804 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 763.5310 Warner Brothers shirts, 764.8133 805 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 764.8133 (pause 0.09) 764.9054 806 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 764.9054 like Bugs Bunny with his hop hop clothes on, and like, 767.6238 807 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 767.6238 (pause 0.72) 768.3466 808 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 768.3466 Disney- everybody was into hip hop. This was the nineties. 770.8832 809 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 770.8832 (pause 0.40) 771.2784 810 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 771.2784 And ninety five. 772.0898 811 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 772.0898 (pause 0.79) 772.8824 812 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 772.8824 So I would wear those kind of shirts. 774.2300 813 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 774.2300 (pause 0.35) 774.5797 814 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 774.5797 Went to /RD-NAME-4/, it was culture shock. 776.2071 815 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 776.2071 (pause 0.47) 776.6780 816 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 776.6780 I was small skinny dude with the glasses, 778.8778 817 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 778.8778 (pause 0.46) 779.3394 818 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 779.3394 and we was- first time going to school with white people 781.3398 819 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 781.3398 (pause 0.64) 781.9786 820 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 781.9786 because 782.6780 821 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 782.6780 (pause 0.37) 783.0499 822 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 783.0499 um- 783.4976 823 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 783.4976 (pause 0.35) 783.8473 824 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 783.8473 Again, I lived in Forestville, Maryland on that 786.3140 825 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 786.3140 (pause 0.17) 786.4818 826 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 786.4818 c- 786.6031 827 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 786.6031 (pause 0.15) 786.7569 828 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 786.7569 edge. 787.2186 829 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 787.2186 (pause 1.32) 788.5382 830 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 788.5382 We were all shocked, all my friends and I, we got bussed from Forestville, 791.9829 831 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 791.9829 (pause 0.64) 792.6264 832 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 792.6264 you know. 793.0087 833 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 793.0087 (pause 1.05) 794.0579 834 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 794.0579 Lower middle class, middle class-ish 795.9685 835 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 795.9685 (pause 0.12) 796.0898 836 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 796.0898 black people 796.7472 837 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 796.7472 (pause 0.86) 797.6099 838 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 797.6099 to farm land. 799.8481 839 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 799.8481 (pause 0.44) 800.2910 840 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 800.2910 We would drive past trailer parks and cows. 802.4581 841 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 802.4581 (pause 0.56) 803.0177 842 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 803.0177 I'm like, what? 803.4233 843 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 803.4233 (pause 0.38) 803.8010 844 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 803.8010 What is this? Where we going? 805.0927 845 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 805.0927 (pause 0.19) 805.2838 846 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 805.2838 Bus driver you got the wrong way. 806.7060 847 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 806.7060 (pause 0.48) 807.1816 848 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 807.1816 This isn't the right way to school. I remember my friends like, what the heck? 809.9782 849 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 809.9782 (pause 0.65) 810.6264 850 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 810.6264 Where are they taking us? 811.2932 851 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 811.2932 (pause 0.49) 811.7828 852 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 811.7828 But um, 812.4449 853 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 812.4449 (pause 0.67) 813.1199 854 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 813.1199 in middle school, 813.9499 855 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 813.9499 (pause 0.47) 814.4208 856 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 814.4208 uh, I had some great experiences. I had a great art teacher, 816.6357 857 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 816.6357 (pause 0.14) 816.7802 858 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 816.7802 uh, Mr. /RD-NAME-1/, /RD-NAME-3/. 818.8459 859 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 818.8459 (pause 0.55) 819.3950 860 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 819.3950 And he really helped me get- 820.8638 861 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 820.8638 (pause 0.09) 820.9524 862 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 820.9524 cause I love comic books. So, 822.3606 863 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 822.3606 (pause 0.09) 822.4492 864 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 822.4492 he was a comic book artist, and so he really- 824.2071 865 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 824.2071 (pause 0.29) 824.5009 866 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 824.5009 I was in the art club, and 825.6000 867 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 825.6000 (pause 0.99) 826.5887 868 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 826.5887 I would draw and paint. 827.6005 869 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 827.6005 (pause 0.33) 827.9316 870 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 827.9316 He- his class was my favorite. 829.0507 871 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 829.0507 (pause 0.63) 829.6849 872 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 829.6849 I had some dope English teachers. 830.8925 873 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 830.8925 (pause 0.26) 831.1478 874 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 831.1478 First time I started rapping was 832.6726 875 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 832.6726 (pause 0.31) 832.9804 876 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 832.9804 in my English teacher's class, Miss /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 834.9248 877 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 834.9248 (pause 0.54) 835.4610 878 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 835.4610 We had to create this 836.5661 879 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 836.5661 (pause 0.23) 836.7993 880 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 836.7993 culture. 837.3029 881 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 837.3029 (pause 0.32) 837.6235 882 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 837.6235 We had to create a society 838.6866 883 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 838.6866 (pause 0.48) 839.1669 884 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 839.1669 using our imaginations, and so 840.6497 885 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 840.6497 (pause 0.29) 840.9388 886 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 840.9388 three of my friends, we created this uh- 842.8506 887 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 842.8506 (pause 0.74) 843.5955 888 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 843.5955 this- this uh, nation called the Reptil- the Reptiles. 846.5844 889 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 846.5844 (pause 0.50) 847.0833 890 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 847.0833 And I drew the flag. It was like a r- a lizard, with its like- 850.0478 891 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 850.0478 (pause 0.14) 850.1830 892 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 850.1830 the two- 850.5840 893 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 850.5840 (pause 0.16) 850.7472 894 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 850.7472 two deuces up 851.3912 895 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 851.3912 (pause 0.10) 851.4886 896 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 851.4886 peace sign. 852.0482 897 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 852.0482 (pause 0.56) 852.6077 898 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 852.6077 And they hated snakes, 854.1884 899 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 854.1884 (pause 0.57) 854.7620 900 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 854.7620 so 855.1210 901 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 855.1210 (pause 0.09) 855.2131 902 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 855.2131 Goodie Mob was a hip hop group that was real popular back then, 857.9829 903 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 857.9829 (pause 0.64) 858.6217 904 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 858.6217 and um, 859.2605 905 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 859.2605 (pause 0.13) 859.3911 906 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 859.3911 you know, the song was, who's that peaking in my window? (singing) 862.2576 907 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 862.2576 (pause 0.18) 862.4395 908 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 862.4395 /Blow/, 863.5586 909 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 863.5586 (pause 0.48) 864.0435 910 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 864.0435 Nobody now. So, 865.3398 911 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 865.3398 (pause 0.25) 865.5916 912 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 865.5916 don't ask us how we got 866.7340 913 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 866.7340 (pause 0.34) 867.0740 914 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 867.0740 [the- the-] the instrumental, but we got the instrumental. The- /mind/- This is nineteen ninety five, so 871.0561 915 DCB_int_01 867.0926 [] 867.4936 916 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 871.4431 there was no internet to like, 872.6601 917 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 872.6601 (pause 0.37) 873.0273 918 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 873.0273 download the beat from, but somehow- 874.8738 919 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 874.8738 (pause 0.58) 875.4520 920 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 875.4520 somehow we got the beat on a tape. 877.5550 921 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 877.5550 (pause 0.36) 877.9187 922 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 877.9187 And we wrote my first time writing a rap song. 879.9553 923 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 879.9553 (pause 0.48) 880.4402 924 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 880.4402 I was like, in t- 881.1816 925 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 881.1816 (pause 0.50) 881.6852 926 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 881.6852 eighth grade. 882.1468 927 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 882.1468 (pause 0.41) 882.5572 928 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 882.5572 So we were writing this rap song, and I was like- 884.5062 929 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 884.5062 (pause 0.76) 885.2698 930 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 885.2698 Yeah I remember it um, cause my name is /RD-NAME-6/. 888.0349 931 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 888.0349 (pause 0.65) 888.6831 932 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 888.6831 So my- my verse was, 890.0493 933 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 890.0493 (pause 0.57) 890.6170 934 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 890.6170 species number three. It be me little ST, the baddest one of them all, finna make them snakes fall. (rapping) 895.6156 935 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 895.6156 (pause 0.16) 895.7788 936 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 895.7788 That's all I remember that I wrote 896.7441 937 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 896.7441 (pause 0.49) 897.2372 938 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 897.2372 because we hated- cause we were the Rep- 898.3050 939 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 898.3050 (pause 0.48) 898.7853 940 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 898.7853 Uh, /RD-NAME-4/, s- you know, I was species number three. I was the third one, and we hated snakes. 903.2185 941 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 903.2185 (pause 0.55) 903.7641 942 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 903.7641 So I remember that, and I was like, man, rapping is 905.7225 943 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 905.7225 (pause 0.12) 905.8437 944 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 905.8437 cool, man. Like, 906.6644 945 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 906.6644 (pause 0.14) 906.8090 946 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 906.8090 I never thought I could rap. 907.6856 947 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 907.6856 (pause 0.81) 908.5004 948 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 908.5004 I grew up listening to it but I never thought I would be rapping. 910.4868 949 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 910.4868 (pause 0.67) 911.1536 950 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 911.1536 So 911.6106 951 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 911.6106 (pause 0.35) 911.9603 952 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 911.9603 that was great from a academics perspective. 914.1087 953 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 914.1087 (pause 0.17) 914.2766 954 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 914.2766 Um, 914.7802 955 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 914.7802 (pause 0.23) 915.0087 956 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 915.0087 socially, I was kind of awkward. 916.5847 957 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 916.5847 (pause 0.59) 917.1769 958 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 917.1769 Um, I had a guy who was a uh, 918.7950 959 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 918.7950 (pause 0.07) 918.8602 960 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 918.8602 somewhat of a- not somewhat, he was actually a bully, 920.8035 961 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 920.8035 (pause 0.15) 920.9574 962 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 920.9574 this big guy. 921.6895 963 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 921.6895 (pause 0.35) 922.0392 964 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 922.0392 I don't know where this guy came from, but he just saw me, and was like, hey, you're small. 925.7975 965 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 925.7975 (pause 0.58) 926.3792 966 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 926.3792 You know, you have glasses. 927.6699 967 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 927.6699 (pause 0.44) 928.1091 968 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 928.1091 Let's try you. 928.8972 969 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 928.8972 (pause 0.51) 929.4054 970 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 929.4054 So 929.7831 971 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 929.7831 (pause 0.17) 929.9556 972 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 929.9556 I had some insecurities. You know, 931.8814 973 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 931.8814 (pause 0.34) 932.2218 974 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 932.2218 uh, got me to the point where I actually was very suicidal, 934.5847 975 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 934.5847 (pause 0.30) 934.8832 976 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 934.8832 /RD-NAME-2/. 935.1023 977 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 935.1023 (pause 0.44) 935.5453 978 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 935.5453 So I tried to take my life twice in one day. 937.6716 979 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 937.6716 (pause 0.69) 938.3652 980 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 938.3652 Um, I remember that day because I made a um, 940.9718 981 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 940.9718 (pause 0.39) 941.3635 982 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 941.3635 noose out of a jump rope, 942.6318 983 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 942.6318 (pause 0.62) 943.2519 984 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 943.2519 and I put it around my neck, and I tried to to hang myself. And the one thing that kept me 947.2282 985 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 947.2282 (pause 0.88) 948.1095 986 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 948.1095 was 948.9722 987 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 948.9722 (pause 0.76) 949.7369 988 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 949.7369 my faith in God. 950.8500 989 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 950.8500 (pause 0.15) 951.0040 990 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 951.0040 There was like- 951.4703 991 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 951.4703 (pause 0.12) 951.5916 992 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 951.5916 there was a knowing that my life had purpose. 953.5593 993 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 953.5593 (pause 0.65) 954.2074 994 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 954.2074 Um, I got saved when I was six, and so I gave my life to Jesus Christ when I was six. So at this time I was like, 958.9904 995 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 958.9904 (pause 0.59) 959.5779 996 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 959.5779 twelve. 960.0769 997 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 960.0769 (pause 0.51) 960.5851 998 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 960.5851 And at twelve, I was like, man, my life would be better if I'm not in it. 963.2278 999 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 963.2278 (pause 0.72) 963.9459 1000 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 963.9459 And so 964.5008 1001 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 964.5008 (pause 0.52) 965.0231 1002 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 965.0231 you know, I had low self esteem. 966.4872 1003 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 966.4872 (pause 0.46) 966.9488 1004 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 966.9488 Um, I had some just challenges with- 968.2171 1005 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 968.2171 (pause 0.22) 968.4398 1006 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 968.4398 challenges in my home like not getting along with my parents, and 971.1583 1007 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 971.1583 (pause 0.57) 971.7318 1008 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 971.7318 you know, I didn't have many friends. So I just felt like a outcast for this part of my life. 975.4517 1009 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 975.4517 (pause 0.67) 976.1185 1010 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 976.1185 And I thank God that I didn't take my life because 978.5292 1011 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 978.5292 (pause 0.87) 979.3965 1012 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 979.3965 I didn't know what I was gonna become, 981.3118 1013 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 981.3118 (pause 0.48) 981.7874 1014 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 981.7874 [you know?] 982.1418 1015 DCB_int_01 981.8014 [Mm-hm.] 982.2444 1016 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 982.6034 Um, I didn't know I'd be a speaker that travels around the country and talks to kids and be a pastor here in DC and 987.5589 1017 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 987.5589 (pause 0.40) 987.9599 1018 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 987.9599 be a hip hop artist and stuff. Like I didn't know all that- 990.1515 1019 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 990.1515 (pause 0.66) 990.8090 1020 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 990.8090 to help people, encourage people. 992.3447 1021 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 992.3447 (pause 0.33) 992.6730 1022 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 992.6730 So I feel like the devil- 993.6801 1023 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 993.6801 (pause 0.40) 994.0765 1024 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 994.0765 I believe in the devil. 994.8645 1025 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 994.8645 (pause 0.16) 995.0231 1026 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 995.0231 If you're listening to this recording, 996.0909 1027 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 996.0909 (pause 0.36) 996.4546 1028 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 996.4546 I believe in the devil and God. 997.7042 1029 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 997.7042 (pause 0.69) 998.3978 1030 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 998.3978 So 998.8222 1031 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 998.8222 (pause 0.19) 999.0087 1032 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 999.0087 I believe that the devil wanted me to- 1000.5428 1033 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1000.5428 (pause 0.67) 1001.2142 1034 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1001.2142 to- to kill myself so that 1002.7157 1035 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1002.7157 (pause 0.54) 1003.2519 1036 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1003.2519 I wouldn't reach my potential, my purpose. 1005.0087 1037 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1005.0087 (pause 1.12) 1006.1278 1038 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1006.1278 All throughout the Bible 1006.9671 1039 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1006.9671 (pause 0.36) 1007.3308 1040 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1007.3308 I started noticing like, 1008.2634 1041 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1008.2634 (pause 0.41) 1008.6737 1042 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1008.6737 Satan would try to kill significant people when they were children. 1011.3584 1043 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1011.3584 (pause 0.14) 1011.4936 1044 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1011.4936 You know, 1011.8667 1045 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1011.8667 (pause 0.27) 1012.1324 1046 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1012.1324 the King tried to kill 1013.0790 1047 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1013.0790 (pause 0.48) 1013.5546 1048 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1013.5546 uh, Moses. Or Pharaoh tried to kill Moses, all the babies, so Moses wouldn't come, and then 1017.1859 1049 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1017.1859 (pause 0.39) 1017.5776 1050 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1017.5776 the King tried to kill Jesus, 1018.7899 1051 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1018.7899 (pause 0.08) 1018.8738 1052 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1018.8738 p- so Jesus wouldn't become and be the Messiah. 1020.8043 1053 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1020.8043 (pause 0.35) 1021.1540 1054 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1021.1540 So I feel- not that I'm Moses or Jesus, but I just f- 1023.3677 1055 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1023.3677 (pause 0.12) 1023.4890 1056 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1023.4890 I just see a pattern of, 1024.6594 1057 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1024.6594 (pause 0.47) 1025.1303 1058 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1025.1303 let's take him out of the equation before he can do some damage. 1027.9840 1059 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1027.9840 (pause 0.73) 1028.7103 1060 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1028.7103 So 1029.1019 1061 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1029.1019 (pause 1.31) 1030.4076 1062 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1030.4076 once I got past that part, 1032.1515 1063 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1032.1515 (pause 0.35) 1032.4965 1064 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1032.4965 where I realized my life had purpose, 1033.9141 1065 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1033.9141 (pause 0.63) 1034.5424 1066 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1034.5424 um, 1034.9714 1067 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1034.9714 (pause 0.26) 1035.2278 1068 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1035.2278 it didn't matter what the dude said or tried to shove me or stuff. I learned to avoid him. 1038.5851 1069 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1038.5851 (pause 0.48) 1039.0701 1070 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1039.0701 Um, 1039.5877 1071 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1039.5877 (pause 0.33) 1039.9141 1072 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1039.9141 and I got my little brother on him a little bit cause my little brother was bigger than me, so my little brother was tryna fight him. 1043.9277 1073 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1043.9277 (pause 0.76) 1044.6924 1074 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1044.6924 So 1045.0607 1075 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1045.0607 (pause 0.33) 1045.3918 1076 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1045.3918 I w- I made it through middle school, 1047.0040 1077 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1047.0040 (pause 0.38) 1047.3864 1078 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1047.3864 and uh- 1048.1138 1079 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1048.1138 (pause 0.92) 1049.0371 1080 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1049.0371 and yeah. 1049.5593 1081 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1049.5593 (pause 0.18) 1049.7411 1082 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1049.7411 But that was a very difficult time 1051.1447 1083 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1051.1447 (pause 0.18) 1051.3265 1084 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1051.3265 cause that's when you're tryna 1052.4689 1085 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1052.4689 (pause 0.58) 1053.0507 1086 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1053.0507 figure out everything. Y- you're not necessarily a little kid anymore, but you're not a 1056.5385 1087 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1056.5385 (pause 0.82) 1057.3545 1088 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1057.3545 teenager either. 1058.1938 1089 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1058.1938 (pause 0.16) 1058.3512 1090 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1058.3512 You're really- It's the tween. 1059.5589 1091 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1059.5589 (pause 0.28) 1059.8387 1092 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1059.8387 [You're not a teen], you're a tween, so I was in between 1062.2820 1093 DCB_int_01 1059.8387 [Mm-hm.] 1060.2770 1094 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1063.1633 what- 1063.5084 1095 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1063.5084 (pause 0.55) 1064.0621 1096 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1064.0621 who I was and didn't know exactly where I was going 1066.4355 1097 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1066.4355 (pause 0.12) 1066.5568 1098 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1066.5568 and who I was gonna be. 1067.3448 1099 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1067.3448 (pause 0.61) 1067.9556 1100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1067.9556 But God was the center for my 1069.9451 1101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1069.9451 (pause 0.86) 1070.8082 1102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1070.8082 uh- 1071.4657 1103 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1071.4657 (pause 0.30) 1071.7687 1104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1071.7687 s- sustaining me in that time, 1073.3774 1105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1073.3774 (pause 0.15) 1073.5267 1106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1073.5267 you know. 1073.8158 1107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1073.8158 (pause 0.62) 1074.4313 1108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1074.4313 So yeah. 1074.8090 1109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1074.8090 (pause 0.11) 1074.9209 1110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1074.9209 So that was middle school. 1075.6110 1111 DCB_int_01 1075.9036 So how did you- 1076.5937 1112 DCB_int_01 1076.5937 (pause 0.22) 1076.8128 1113 DCB_int_01 1076.8128 how d- how did you fare in high school then? 1078.6034 1114 DCB_int_01 1078.6034 (pause 0.19) 1078.7946 1115 DCB_int_01 1078.7946 Like how was high school for you? 1080.1466 1116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1080.2494 Okay, so 1081.0048 1117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1081.0048 (pause 2.13) 1083.1346 1118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1083.1346 I just- I just told you all that, 1084.8459 1119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1084.8459 (pause 0.19) 1085.0371 1120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1085.0371 God was significant in my life in middle school. 1087.0794 1121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1087.0794 (pause 1.02) 1088.0994 1122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1088.0994 N- this is nineteen ninety five, summer of going into nineteen ninety six. 1091.4894 1123 DCB_int_01 1091.6292 Mm-hm. 1091.9510 1124 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1092.0536 I w- 1092.2914 1125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1092.2914 (pause 0.27) 1092.5618 1126 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1092.5618 I said, well I'm going in the total opposite direction. 1094.9621 1127 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1094.9621 (pause 0.35) 1095.3071 1128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1095.3071 Thank you God for keeping me from killing myself, 1097.1629 1129 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1097.1629 (pause 0.50) 1097.6665 1130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1097.6665 but 1098.3660 1131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1098.3660 (pause 0.58) 1098.9488 1132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1098.9488 I won't be punked again, homie. 1100.2125 1133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1100.2125 (pause 0.78) 1100.9900 1134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1100.9900 So I went- 1101.8993 1135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1101.8993 (pause 0.28) 1102.1837 1136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1102.1837 I got- I went into a very rebellious stage. I started hanging with 1104.7716 1137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1104.7716 (pause 0.45) 1105.2240 1138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1105.2240 my older brother and some of his friends, was smoking weed. 1107.7734 1139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1107.7734 (pause 0.49) 1108.2630 1140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1108.2630 Um, 1108.9578 1141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1108.9578 (pause 0.53) 1109.4894 1142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1109.4894 you know, 1109.9836 1143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1109.9836 (pause 0.29) 1110.2774 1144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1110.2774 just 1110.5665 1145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1110.5665 (pause 0.42) 1110.9861 1146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1110.9861 being rebellious. 1111.8161 1147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1111.8161 (pause 0.41) 1112.2253 1148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1112.2253 I- I hit a growth spurt the summer after eighth grade. I remember looking up to the sky and just saying- 1116.1841 1149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1116.1841 (pause 0.41) 1116.5945 1150 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1116.5945 you know, cursing God. 1117.5643 1151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1117.5643 (pause 0.75) 1118.3186 1152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1118.3186 Um, again, 1119.0460 1153 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1119.0460 (pause 0.41) 1119.4563 1154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1119.4563 uh, 1119.7454 1155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1119.7454 (pause 0.19) 1119.9319 1156 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1119.9319 God- 1120.2397 1157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1120.2397 (pause 0.14) 1120.3749 1158 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1120.3749 I knew God called me 1121.5173 1159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1121.5173 (pause 0.50) 1122.0163 1160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1122.0163 to- to live for him. 1123.3965 1161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1123.3965 (pause 0.66) 1124.0575 1162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1124.0575 I- I went from being suicidal and depressed 1126.5941 1163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1126.5941 (pause 0.36) 1126.9578 1164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1126.9578 to being extremely prideful and thinking I don't need God 1129.3359 1165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1129.3359 (pause 0.14) 1129.4757 1166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1129.4757 within a matter of months. 1130.4689 1167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1130.4689 (pause 0.36) 1130.8315 1168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1130.8315 1131.0833 1169 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1131.0833 (pause 0.71) 1131.7921 1170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1131.7921 Um, 1132.2210 1171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1132.2210 (pause 0.20) 1132.4215 1172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1132.4215 hey. 1132.6360 1173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1132.6360 (pause 0.47) 1133.1023 1174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1133.1023 The young- 1133.4287 1175 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1133.4287 (pause 0.32) 1133.7505 1176 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1133.7505 the young 1134.0815 1177 DCB_int_01 1133.9929 Mm-hm. 1134.3007 1178 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1134.4359 twelve year old mind. 1135.5177 1179 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1135.5177 (pause 0.42) 1135.9420 1180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1135.9420 So God helped me, and then I was like, okay, thanks God. Now I don't need you 1139.4241 1181 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1139.4241 (pause 0.23) 1139.6526 1182 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1139.6526 cause I'm not gonna be vulnerable anymore. 1141.2379 1183 DCB_int_01 1141.5643 Mm. 1141.7509 1184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1141.9689 So 1142.4352 1185 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1142.4352 (pause 0.42) 1142.8595 1186 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1142.8595 I started hanging with dudes that were 1144.3936 1187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1144.3936 (pause 0.54) 1144.9298 1188 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1144.9298 you know, selling drugs, getting in gang fights. 1147.3872 1189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1147.3872 (pause 0.45) 1147.8348 1190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1147.8348 The- the bad of- 1148.5331 1191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1148.5331 (pause 0.13) 1148.6636 1192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1148.6636 the badder influence of my neighborhood. 1150.3796 1193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1150.3796 (pause 0.52) 1150.9018 1194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1150.9018 And we went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, so mind you, Forestville is a 1154.0073 1195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1154.0073 (pause 0.55) 1154.5611 1196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1154.5611 lower middle class 1156.2490 1197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1156.2490 (pause 0.52) 1156.7713 1198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1156.7713 neighborhood 1157.5360 1199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1157.5360 (pause 0.31) 1157.8484 1200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1157.8484 that had some 1158.6411 1201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1158.6411 (pause 0.29) 1158.9302 1202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1158.9302 elements of 1159.7509 1203 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1159.7509 (pause 0.45) 1160.2020 1204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1160.2020 drug use, 1161.0367 1205 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1161.0367 (pause 0.11) 1161.1439 1206 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1161.1439 drug abuse, drug dealing, 1162.3330 1207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1162.3330 (pause 0.49) 1162.8226 1208 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1162.8226 crime, criminal, gun shots here and there. 1164.8836 1209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1164.8836 (pause 1.16) 1166.0446 1210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1166.0446 And well then I go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 1167.5406 1211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1167.5406 (pause 1.16) 1168.6967 1212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1168.6967 which if you're listening to this recording, you don't know where /RD-SCHOOL-2/ is, it's like- 1171.9654 1213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1171.9654 (pause 0.95) 1172.9201 1214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1172.9201 P- 1173.0134 1215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1173.0134 (pause 0.09) 1173.1019 1216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1173.1019 Prince George's County at one time was the most affluent black county in America, and /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was like, the mecca of it. 1178.3804 1217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1178.3804 (pause 0.52) 1178.9014 1218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1178.9014 So this was nineteen ninety six. 1180.5428 1219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1180.5428 (pause 0.38) 1180.9251 1220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1180.9251 We were going to school with kids pulling up in 1182.9591 1221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1182.9591 (pause 0.24) 1183.1960 1222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1183.1960 Benzes 1183.7555 1223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1183.7555 (pause 0.21) 1183.9607 1224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1183.9607 and like, 1184.4177 1225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1184.4177 (pause 0.34) 1184.7569 1226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1184.7569 Lexuses, and I'm like, y'all are rich dudes, you know. 1187.5546 1227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1187.5546 (pause 0.55) 1188.1002 1228 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1188.1002 And- and they- 1188.8836 1229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1188.8836 (pause 0.14) 1189.0188 1230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1189.0188 and there was this kind of 1190.0388 1231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1190.0388 (pause 0.50) 1190.5424 1232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1190.5424 c- social cast 1191.8667 1233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1191.8667 (pause 0.12) 1191.9879 1234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1191.9879 system 1192.5708 1235 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1192.5708 (pause 0.48) 1193.0557 1236 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1193.0557 in /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School 1194.1795 1237 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1194.1795 (pause 0.54) 1194.7157 1238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1194.7157 kind of like uh, Romeo and Juliet. 1196.3151 1239 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1196.3151 (pause 0.93) 1197.2465 1240 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1197.2465 Um, the- like, 1197.9689 1241 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1197.9689 (pause 0.14) 1198.1138 1242 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1198.1138 you got the haves and the have nots, and they don't like each other. 1200.8696 1243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1200.8696 (pause 0.48) 1201.3545 1244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1201.3545 So they called us 1202.3757 1245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1202.3757 (pause 0.15) 1202.5284 1246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1202.5284 dirty Forestville bamas, and 1204.2723 1247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1204.2723 (pause 0.20) 1204.4682 1248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1204.4682 we called them rich /RD-SCHOOL-2/ bamas, and there were lots of fights. 1207.3032 1249 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1207.3032 (pause 0.56) 1207.8628 1250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1207.8628 So I found myself 1208.7802 1251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1208.7802 (pause 0.65) 1209.4330 1252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1209.4330 hitting a growth spurt, 1210.3283 1253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1210.3283 (pause 0.77) 1211.1023 1254 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1211.1023 uh, got a little facial hair. 1212.3287 1255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1212.3287 (pause 0.14) 1212.4639 1256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1212.4639 I got like one 1213.2939 1257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1213.2939 (pause 0.21) 1213.5026 1258 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1213.5026 s- 1213.6518 1259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1213.6518 (pause 0.35) 1214.0015 1260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1214.0015 piece of s- 1214.4678 1261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1214.4678 (pause 0.57) 1215.0413 1262 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1215.0413 beard 1215.3537 1263 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1215.3537 (pause 0.09) 1215.4470 1264 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1215.4470 [that came in], 1216.0951 1265 DCB_int_01 1215.4517 [] 1217.1909 1266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1216.5847 [and I thought I was] grown. 1217.7085 1267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1218.5898 Um, I started hanging with seniors being a freshman, so you know that's- that gave me some cool points. 1222.9158 1268 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1222.9158 (pause 0.40) 1223.3168 1269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1223.3168 And s- and some of the guys that didn't wanna h- catch my back in middle school, they all wanted to impress me because I was hanging with the seniors cause my older brother was a senior. 1230.4825 1270 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1230.4825 (pause 0.39) 1230.8742 1271 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1230.8742 And I was a freshman. 1231.5597 1272 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1231.5597 (pause 0.82) 1232.3792 1273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1232.3792 But in the midst of that, I'm sitting at the senior table at lunch. I'm hanging with senior girls. I'm talking to girls cause my brother's cool, he plays football. 1238.2964 1274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1238.2964 (pause 0.59) 1238.8875 1275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1238.8875 You know, I'm- I'm- 1239.5776 1276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1239.5776 (pause 0.15) 1239.7314 1277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1239.7314 I'm hanging with drug dealers. One of my- 1241.1676 1278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1241.1676 (pause 0.31) 1241.4800 1279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1241.4800 One of my friends /RD-NAME-1/- I wanted to be just like /RD-NAME-1/. 1243.5037 1280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1243.5037 (pause 1.17) 1244.6730 1281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1244.6730 Um, he used to grow out his pinky nail and- 1246.6314 1282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1246.6314 (pause 0.11) 1246.7386 1283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1246.7386 and cut up cocaine. 1247.7738 1284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1247.7738 (pause 0.79) 1248.5618 1285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1248.5618 And um, I was hanging with these guys, 1250.7802 1286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1250.7802 (pause 0.10) 1250.8828 1287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1250.8828 and I remember 1251.5962 1288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1251.5962 (pause 0.37) 1251.9646 1289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1251.9646 a moment 1252.7713 1290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1252.7713 (pause 0.71) 1253.4847 1291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1253.4847 um, in ninth grade where 1254.8789 1292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1254.8789 (pause 0.68) 1255.5597 1293 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1255.5597 we were riding to the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Suitland game. 1257.5030 1294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1257.5030 (pause 0.24) 1257.7408 1295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1257.7408 And back then, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and Suitland High School had a crazy beef. 1260.3054 1296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1260.3054 (pause 0.81) 1261.1120 1297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1261.1120 And they- 1261.4058 1298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1261.4058 (pause 0.22) 1261.6238 1299 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1261.6238 uh, /RD-NAME-1/- 1262.2720 1300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1262.2720 (pause 0.17) 1262.4398 1301 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1262.4398 believe- I believe /RD-NAME-1/ had a gun on him, 1263.8527 1302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1263.8527 (pause 0.73) 1264.5847 1303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1264.5847 and I just told him, let me out the car. 1266.1422 1304 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1266.1422 (pause 0.28) 1266.4219 1305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1266.4219 Like the Holy Spirit of God- 1267.8721 1306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1267.8721 (pause 0.39) 1268.2626 1307 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1268.2626 You know, I believe the Holy Spirit of God speaks to believers, and although I was in a rebellious state of mind, 1272.3427 1308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1272.3427 (pause 0.07) 1272.4173 1309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1272.4173 I was still saved. 1273.2566 1310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1273.2566 (pause 0.61) 1273.8628 1311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1273.8628 And- 1274.0773 1312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1274.0773 (pause 0.19) 1274.2673 1313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1274.2673 and there was a knowing to get out of that car. 1276.2304 1314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1276.2304 (pause 0.62) 1276.8505 1315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1276.8505 And so they let me out, and I just kind of stood around the- 1279.0234 1316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1279.0234 (pause 0.38) 1279.4011 1317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1279.4011 the football game 1280.2498 1318 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1280.2498 (pause 0.37) 1280.6170 1319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1280.6170 by myself, and they went off and did something stupid. 1282.7759 1320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1282.7759 (pause 0.80) 1283.5733 1321 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1283.5733 So 1284.0163 1322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1284.0163 (pause 0.16) 1284.1795 1323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1284.1795 I- I was at this crossroads, 1285.9001 1324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1285.9001 (pause 0.23) 1286.1286 1325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1286.1286 as a um, 1286.8222 1326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1286.8222 (pause 0.69) 1287.5123 1327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1287.5123 fourteen year old now, 1288.6500 1328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1288.6500 (pause 1.02) 1289.6712 1329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1289.6712 and the thing- 1290.6084 1330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1290.6084 (pause 0.23) 1290.8369 1331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1290.8369 the straw that broke the camel's back for me, in high school, 1293.2838 1332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1293.2838 (pause 0.45) 1293.7361 1333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1293.7361 where I turned my life 1294.7060 1334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1294.7060 (pause 0.66) 1295.3681 1335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1295.3681 uh, from being rebellious toward God to um- 1297.6203 1336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1297.6203 (pause 0.16) 1297.7835 1337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1297.7835 repenting is what we call it when we turn from our sin 1299.9926 1338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1299.9926 (pause 0.21) 1300.2024 1339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1300.2024 and- and go back toward living for God. 1301.7785 1340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1301.7785 (pause 0.60) 1302.3800 1341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1302.3800 My twin towers fell. 1303.5504 1342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1303.5504 (pause 1.02) 1304.5750 1343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1304.5750 Uh, my first tower was my older brother. 1306.4309 1344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1306.4309 (pause 0.62) 1307.0464 1345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1307.0464 He got arrest- well, 1308.1375 1346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1308.1375 (pause 0.17) 1308.3054 1347 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1308.3054 he almost got arrested. He got chewed up by police dogs in a high speed chase. 1311.8014 1348 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1311.8014 (pause 1.14) 1312.9438 1349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1312.9438 He got- got kicked out of the house. 1314.7950 1350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1314.7950 (pause 0.11) 1314.9069 1351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1314.9069 Bail bondsmen were looking for him. 1316.6415 1352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1316.6415 (pause 1.23) 1317.8667 1353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1317.8667 And then my second tower was Tupac Shakur. 1319.9696 1354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1319.9696 (pause 0.47) 1320.4406 1355 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1320.4406 So 1320.8509 1356 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1320.8509 (pause 0.78) 1321.6296 1357 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1321.6296 we used to listen to Thug Life, Tupac Shakur. 1323.7687 1358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1323.7687 (pause 0.57) 1324.3423 1359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1324.3423 You know, this- smoking weed, drinking, we listening to Tupac, 1328.1612 1360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1328.1612 (pause 0.51) 1328.6683 1361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1328.6683 and I remember when he got killed. 1330.1977 1362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1330.1977 (pause 0.22) 1330.4215 1363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1330.4215 It was right after my birthday. 1331.5173 1364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1331.5173 (pause 0.67) 1332.1888 1365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1332.1888 Cause I was born September eighth, and he died like, September 1335.0040 1366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1335.0040 (pause 0.39) 1335.3910 1367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1335.3910 thirteenth or s- s- like, seven days or something after my birthday 1337.6712 1368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1337.6712 (pause 0.43) 1338.1049 1369 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1338.1049 in Las Vegas. And like, we were listening to WPGC, and I was like, 1341.1439 1370 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1341.1439 (pause 1.45) 1342.5894 1371 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1342.5894 Pac is dead. 1343.6712 1372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1343.6712 (pause 0.32) 1343.9929 1373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1343.9929 And it just like- we were all riding to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ High School, and we were just like- 1347.3677 1374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1347.3677 (pause 1.15) 1348.5195 1375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1348.5195 we were just so taken aback cause Tupac was our role model. 1351.5410 1376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1351.5410 (pause 0.17) 1351.7136 1377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1351.7136 You know what I'm saying? 1352.3057 1378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1352.3057 (pause 0.54) 1352.8455 1379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1352.8455 So 1353.3304 1380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1353.3304 (pause 0.16) 1353.4890 1381 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1353.4890 I found myself- 1354.5708 1382 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1354.5708 (pause 1.10) 1355.6712 1383 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1355.6712 if the guy that invented Thug Life 1357.6110 1384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1357.6110 (pause 0.32) 1357.9269 1385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1357.9269 and was living this fast life in the streets, 1359.7081 1386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1359.7081 (pause 0.12) 1359.8294 1387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1359.8294 he died. And my older brother got caught up 1362.5152 1388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1362.5152 (pause 0.30) 1362.8183 1389 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1362.8183 in this same stuff, 1363.8581 1390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1363.8581 (pause 0.10) 1363.9607 1391 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1363.9607 and he just got a- 1364.7755 1392 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1364.7755 (pause 0.14) 1364.9201 1393 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1364.9201 chewed up by police dogs, in the hospital, 1367.2049 1394 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1367.2049 (pause 0.44) 1367.6432 1395 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1367.6432 kicked out the house. 1368.4266 1396 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1368.4266 (pause 0.35) 1368.7716 1397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1368.7716 What's about to happen to 1369.9840 1398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1369.9840 (pause 0.59) 1370.5704 1399 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1370.5704 /RD-NAME-6/? 1371.6848 1400 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1371.6848 (pause 0.39) 1372.0765 1401 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1372.0765 1372.9345 1402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1372.9345 (pause 0.13) 1373.0604 1403 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1373.0604 So I remember I had a moment where I said, you know, 1375.2986 1404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1375.2986 (pause 0.71) 1376.0120 1405 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1376.0120 God if you're real, show me you're real. 1377.6242 1406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1377.6242 (pause 0.65) 1378.2770 1407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1378.2770 Like I know last year I cursed you out, but I mean, 1380.1561 1408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1380.1561 (pause 0.62) 1380.7763 1409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1380.7763 I- I want a real relationship with you, not some fake religion, not some- 1384.3003 1410 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1384.3003 (pause 1.01) 1385.3122 1411 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1385.3122 you know, just 1386.4359 1412 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1386.4359 (pause 0.17) 1386.6084 1413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1386.6084 saying- 1386.9908 1414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1386.9908 (pause 0.18) 1387.1680 1415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1387.1680 catchy church sayings, and 1388.4177 1416 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1388.4177 (pause 0.49) 1388.9108 1417 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1388.9108 I want something real 1390.2583 1418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1390.2583 (pause 0.78) 1391.0417 1419 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1391.0417 or- 1391.4194 1420 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1391.4194 (pause 0.23) 1391.6479 1421 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1391.6479 or I'm next. 1392.4686 1422 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1392.4686 (pause 0.86) 1393.3265 1423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1393.3265 And that's when 1394.4258 1424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1394.4258 (pause 1.44) 1395.8667 1425 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1395.8667 I started um, really paying attention in church, 1398.0722 1426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1398.0722 (pause 0.35) 1398.4266 1427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1398.4266 started taking more notes, 1399.7182 1428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1399.7182 (pause 0.62) 1400.3419 1429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1400.3419 and just started 1401.2558 1430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1401.2558 (pause 0.27) 1401.5216 1431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1401.5216 changing my life- or God started changing my life, or I started 1403.9696 1432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1403.9696 (pause 0.37) 1404.3427 1433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1404.3427 pulling back from some of those negative influences from my neighborhood. I stopped hanging with them by the lockers. 1408.7106 1434 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1408.7106 (pause 0.36) 1409.0697 1435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1409.0697 I started going to the library reading the Bible on my own, wait til the first bell ring and I go straight to class. 1413.8993 1436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1413.8993 (pause 0.45) 1414.3469 1437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1414.3469 And, oh where you at /RD-NAME-2/- they didn't call me /RD-NAME-2/, they called me /RD-NAME-2/. Hey where you at, man? Where you been? 1418.2405 1438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1418.2405 (pause 0.45) 1418.6869 1439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1418.6869 Nah man, I ain't about that no more. 1420.0672 1440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1420.0672 (pause 0.62) 1420.6873 1441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1420.6873 And- and from there, 1421.8484 1442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1421.8484 (pause 0.33) 1422.1795 1443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1422.1795 I started just teaching people the Bible whatever I was learning 1424.8641 1444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1424.8641 (pause 0.31) 1425.1766 1445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1425.1766 in the library. 1425.7921 1446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1425.7921 (pause 0.65) 1426.4449 1447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1426.4449 And then it grew into the cafeteria. 1428.1235 1448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1428.1235 (pause 0.42) 1428.5478 1449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1428.5478 So I was leading a Bible study 1429.8861 1450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1429.8861 (pause 0.43) 1430.3186 1451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1430.3186 in the- in uh, eleventh and- my junior and senior year of high school I was leading a Bible study every morning 1434.6737 1452 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1434.6737 (pause 0.47) 1435.1447 1453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1435.1447 in the cafeteria before the first bell would ring, and we'd pray. 1437.5589 1454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1437.5589 (pause 0.72) 1438.2770 1455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1438.2770 And so when the Columbine incident happened in nineteen ninety nine, 1441.1540 1456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1441.1540 (pause 0.52) 1441.6763 1457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1441.6763 when Eric and Dylan uh, shot up their school 1443.8807 1458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1443.8807 (pause 0.19) 1444.0672 1459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1444.0672 in uh, 1444.4822 1460 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1444.4822 (pause 0.12) 1444.5987 1461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1444.5987 Columbine, Colorado, 1445.6386 1462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1445.6386 (pause 0.52) 1446.1561 1463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1446.1561 that 1446.5385 1464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1446.5385 (pause 0.12) 1446.6597 1465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1446.6597 next school day, 1447.8115 1466 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1447.8115 (pause 0.31) 1448.1227 1467 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1448.1227 the whole cafeteria was full of- 1450.4402 1468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1450.4402 (pause 0.28) 1450.7246 1469 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1450.7246 the wh- I felt like the whole school 1452.3753 1470 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1452.3753 (pause 0.52) 1452.8929 1471 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1452.8929 tried to squeeze into that cafeteria to pray. 1454.6113 1472 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1454.6113 (pause 1.07) 1455.6848 1473 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1455.6848 Now, we were- we were leading a Bible study every morning 1457.9790 1474 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1457.9790 (pause 0.24) 1458.2168 1475 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1458.2168 and praying. Every morning we had about fifteen, twenty students. 1460.5902 1476 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1460.5902 (pause 0.56) 1461.1532 1477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1461.1532 But 1461.4563 1478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1461.4563 (pause 0.71) 1462.1651 1479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1462.1651 when tragedy struck America- cause we had never seen 1465.0421 1480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1465.0421 (pause 0.58) 1465.6250 1481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1465.6250 a terrorist attack- 1466.9574 1482 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1466.9574 (pause 0.14) 1467.0926 1483 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1467.0926 It was like a- It was a terrorist attack 1468.7060 1484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1468.7060 (pause 0.49) 1469.1956 1485 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1469.1956 by 1469.7598 1486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1469.7598 (pause 0.99) 1470.7483 1487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1470.7483 American teenagers on their own school. 1472.7942 1488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1472.7942 (pause 0.15) 1472.9481 1489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1472.9481 It was just- 1473.6335 1490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1473.6335 (pause 0.64) 1474.2770 1491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1474.2770 If you wanna- if you- 1475.2282 1492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1475.2282 (pause 0.14) 1475.3635 1493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1475.3635 you're listening to this, and you weren't around in nineteen ninety nine, it was like, 1477.9747 1494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1477.9747 (pause 0.49) 1478.4631 1495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1478.4631 the biggest shock in- of the country. 1480.2490 1496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1480.2490 (pause 0.66) 1480.9112 1497 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1480.9112 And so 1481.5873 1498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1481.5873 (pause 0.57) 1482.1608 1499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1482.1608 going into school that next school day, the whole cafeteria was full of people wanting to pray. 1485.6522 1500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1485.6522 (pause 0.65) 1486.3050 1501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1486.3050 And so that- 1487.0837 1502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1487.0837 (pause 0.18) 1487.2609 1503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1487.2609 those were the days when I started really walking in- 1489.4944 1504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1489.4944 (pause 0.08) 1489.5783 1505 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1489.5783 in my faith with the Lord. 1490.4736 1506 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1490.4736 (pause 0.34) 1490.8175 1507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1490.8175 I started out just teaching whatever my pastor taught the Sunday before. 1493.4847 1508 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1493.4847 (pause 0.85) 1494.3333 1509 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1494.3333 I'd be like, come on pastor, 1495.1307 1510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1495.1307 (pause 0.44) 1495.5690 1511 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1495.5690 give me some good stuff cause I gotta have five days of material now. I got [Monday], 1498.6407 1512 DCB_int_01 1498.3656 [] 1501.1354 1513 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1498.7759 [Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday Bible Study, man.] 1500.8229 1514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1501.4058 Don't- 1501.6856 1515 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1501.6856 (pause 0.21) 1501.8907 1516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1501.8907 Come on. 1502.3804 1517 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1502.3804 (pause 0.60) 1502.9760 1518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1502.9760 And after awhile, I ran out of stuff to preach that he had preached. I used to preach whatever he preached but after awhile- 1507.2426 1519 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1507.2426 (pause 0.27) 1507.5131 1520 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1507.5131 you know, he's preaching fifty two times a year, 1509.1952 1521 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1509.1952 (pause 0.37) 1509.5636 1522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1509.5636 and I'm tryna teach 1510.6081 1523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1510.6081 (pause 0.63) 1511.2422 1524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1511.2422 however many days there is- school days there is a year. Two hundred something. 1514.0400 1525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1514.0400 (pause 0.18) 1514.2171 1526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1514.2171 So that wasn't adding up. 1515.2558 1527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1515.2558 (pause 0.58) 1515.8340 1528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1515.8340 So I was like, uh, I need some more messages. 1519.1587 1529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1519.1587 (pause 0.35) 1519.5084 1530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1519.5084 So I started sitting at the front of the bus, 1521.1579 1531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1521.1579 (pause 0.63) 1521.7874 1532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1521.7874 reading a proverb a day 1523.0930 1533 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1523.0930 (pause 0.19) 1523.2842 1534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1523.2842 and just tryna ask God to give me interpretation. 1525.3405 1535 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1525.3405 (pause 0.36) 1525.7042 1536 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1525.7042 I know I wasn't interpreting it the best, 1527.1439 1537 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1527.1439 (pause 0.60) 1527.7408 1538 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1527.7408 but I was doing the best I could. 1529.0324 1539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1529.0324 (pause 0.55) 1529.5873 1540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1529.5873 And the kids in the back 1530.5059 1541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1530.5059 (pause 0.14) 1530.6458 1542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1530.6458 throwing stuff, 1531.4571 1543 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1531.4571 (pause 0.08) 1531.5410 1544 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1531.5410 the bus driver said, I'm turning the bus around! 1533.3513 1545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1533.3513 (pause 0.10) 1533.4538 1546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1533.4538 Aw man, blank you. Blank blank. I'm like, 1535.5988 1547 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1535.5988 (pause 0.15) 1535.7527 1548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1535.7527 1536.4128 1549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1536.4128 (pause 0.70) 1537.1084 1550 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1537.1084 so 1537.5001 1551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1537.5001 (pause 0.64) 1538.1389 1552 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1538.1389 my- my friends I used to hang with I distanced myself, and they're like, lighting stuff on fire in the back of the bus and 1543.2053 1553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1543.2053 (pause 0.16) 1543.3638 1554 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1543.3638 hitting people in the head and throwing stuff. 1544.9108 1555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1544.9108 (pause 0.29) 1545.2045 1556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1545.2045 And I'm- I went all the way to the front of the bus so I could focus on a message 1548.6271 1557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1548.6271 (pause 0.09) 1548.7157 1558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1548.7157 to share with my peers. 1549.8488 1559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1549.8488 (pause 0.60) 1550.4445 1560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1550.4445 And that's kind of- that was high school in a nut shell. I graduated 1553.0650 1561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1553.0650 (pause 0.78) 1553.8437 1562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1553.8437 um, from high school in two thousand. 1555.6250 1563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1555.6250 (pause 0.54) 1556.1647 1564 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1556.1647 I had one person sign my year book. 1557.7221 1565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1557.7221 (pause 0.64) 1558.3609 1566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1558.3609 And- So I went from being 1559.7085 1567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1559.7085 (pause 0.16) 1559.8670 1568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1559.8670 a depressed nobody in middle school 1561.6902 1569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1561.6902 (pause 0.76) 1562.4538 1570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1562.4538 to 1562.9061 1571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1562.9061 (pause 0.34) 1563.2465 1572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1563.2465 n- ninth grade, 1564.1464 1573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1564.1464 (pause 0.26) 1564.4029 1574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1564.4029 a person that 1565.0744 1575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1565.0744 (pause 0.30) 1565.3728 1576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1565.3728 had all th- 1565.8997 1577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1565.8997 (pause 0.12) 1566.0209 1578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1566.0209 getting all this clout. Like my brother was 1567.8441 1579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1567.8441 (pause 0.25) 1568.0913 1580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1568.0913 kind of passing the baton of the legacy he built in the school. He was a- 1571.4241 1581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1571.4241 (pause 0.54) 1571.9603 1582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1571.9603 you know, number sixty five, 1573.2566 1583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1573.2566 (pause 0.43) 1573.6856 1584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1573.6856 played on defensive line. He big guy- big strong man, had all this 1576.9997 1585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1576.9997 (pause 0.41) 1577.4054 1586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1577.4054 respect, 1577.7971 1587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1577.7971 (pause 0.36) 1578.1561 1588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1578.1561 and I was following his footsteps. You know, we were 1579.8022 1589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1579.8022 (pause 0.26) 1580.0586 1590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1580.0586 hanging out with the dudes, sell drugs and use 'em and 1582.0299 1591 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1582.0299 (pause 0.37) 1582.3982 1592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1582.3982 then I just- God called me away from that. 1584.1142 1593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1584.1142 (pause 0.15) 1584.2681 1594 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1584.2681 So I went from tryna- 1585.3918 1595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1585.3918 (pause 0.85) 1586.2440 1596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1586.2440 From being a depressed nobody in middle school to 1588.2397 1597 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1588.2397 (pause 0.07) 1588.3143 1598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1588.3143 a big somebody 1589.2282 1599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1589.2282 (pause 0.29) 1589.5220 1600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1589.5220 to a 1589.8950 1601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1589.8950 (pause 0.81) 1590.7017 1602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1590.7017 saved- 1591.4151 1603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1591.4151 (pause 0.87) 1592.2824 1604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1592.2824 walking the path that I felt was right- 1593.7035 1605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1593.7035 (pause 0.42) 1594.1278 1606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1594.1278 in a matter of 1595.0650 1607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1595.0650 (pause 0.62) 1595.6805 1608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1595.6805 a few years. 1596.3567 1609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1596.3567 (pause 0.72) 1597.0794 1610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1597.0794 So 1597.2752 1611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1597.2752 (pause 0.46) 1597.7369 1612 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1597.7369 that was high school. 1598.3757 1613 DCB_int_01 1598.9387 So how did- 1599.3957 1614 DCB_int_01 1599.3957 (pause 0.11) 1599.5076 1615 DCB_int_01 1599.5076 how did you end up at /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 1600.7060 1616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1601.4847 Uh, went to /RD-SCHOOL-8/. 1602.9861 1617 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1602.9861 (pause 0.30) 1603.2892 1618 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1603.2892 Um, 1603.8348 1619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1603.8348 (pause 0.40) 1604.2346 1620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1604.2346 I wanted to go to Howard University but my- 1605.6848 1621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1605.6848 (pause 0.20) 1605.8807 1622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1605.8807 I didn't do well on the SAT at all. 1607.4194 1623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1607.4194 (pause 0.17) 1607.5919 1624 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1607.5919 I got like a 1608.1049 1625 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1608.1049 (pause 0.78) 1608.8836 1626 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1608.8836 nine twenty five the first time. The second time I got a eight 1611.3118 1627 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1611.3118 (pause 0.25) 1611.5589 1628 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1611.5589 something. 1611.9832 1629 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1611.9832 (pause 0.28) 1612.2630 1630 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1612.2630 Well this isn't for me. 1613.2562 1631 DCB_int_01 1613.3168 1614.1888 1632 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1615.3265 So my- my SAT scores weren't good enough to go to Howard so 1617.9832 1633 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1617.9832 (pause 0.62) 1618.6034 1634 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1618.6034 I went to what they call thirteenth grade. I went across the street to /RD-SCHOOL-8/. 1622.2405 1635 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1622.2405 (pause 0.58) 1622.8175 1636 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1622.8175 And um, 1623.5076 1637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1623.5076 (pause 0.10) 1623.6055 1638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1623.6055 I didn't treat it like thirteenth grade. 1624.9485 1639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1624.9485 (pause 0.13) 1625.0744 1640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1625.0744 Some of the- some of the richer kids were skipping class. I'm like, you guys are 1627.8255 1641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1627.8255 (pause 0.16) 1627.9840 1642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1627.9840 dumb. 1628.2498 1643 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1628.2498 (pause 0.13) 1628.3757 1644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1628.3757 Like, 1628.5342 1645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1628.5342 (pause 1.02) 1629.5496 1646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1629.5496 You- your mom's paying for this, right? Cause I'm paying for my education. I'm- you must have somebody silver spooning you, man. 1635.1626 1647 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1635.1626 (pause 0.36) 1635.5216 1648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1635.5216 Security guards would have say, yo, go to class! 1637.4660 1649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1637.4660 (pause 0.14) 1637.6106 1650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1637.6106 Go to class. I'm like, this is not high school. This is college. 1639.8861 1651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1639.8861 (pause 0.64) 1640.5237 1652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1640.5237 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ was- 1640.9854 1653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1640.9854 (pause 0.09) 1641.0786 1654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1641.0786 was really great. I loved it cause you could have a class every hour on the hour, 1644.1049 1655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1644.1049 (pause 0.29) 1644.3986 1656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1644.3986 and I was able to work around my work schedule. I was working and going to- 1647.3164 1657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1647.3164 (pause 0.24) 1647.5542 1658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1647.5542 there. 1647.7687 1659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1647.7687 (pause 0.69) 1648.4635 1660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1648.4635 I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ for two and a half years, 1650.4825 1661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1650.4825 (pause 0.15) 1650.6318 1662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1650.6318 and then I finished up at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1651.9141 1663 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1651.9141 (pause 0.75) 1652.6683 1664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1652.6683 I went three years at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1653.9273 1665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1653.9273 (pause 0.81) 1654.7386 1666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1654.7386 At /RD-SCHOOL-3/- 1655.7178 1667 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1655.7178 (pause 0.57) 1656.2914 1668 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1656.2914 Well at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ I was um, 1657.6623 1669 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1657.6623 (pause 0.70) 1658.3652 1670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1658.3652 just kind of mentoring 1659.2651 1671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1659.2651 (pause 0.17) 1659.4330 1672 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1659.4330 um- 1659.8200 1673 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1659.8200 (pause 0.30) 1660.1185 1674 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1660.1185 tryna start and mentor teenagers, 1661.6199 1675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1661.6199 (pause 0.50) 1662.1188 1676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1662.1188 um, tryna share- share about God with- 1663.9793 1677 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1663.9793 (pause 0.22) 1664.2020 1678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1664.2020 with some of the younger kids in my neighborhood. 1665.8480 1679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1665.8480 (pause 0.69) 1666.5428 1680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1666.5428 And then um, 1667.3868 1681 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1667.3868 (pause 0.77) 1668.1608 1682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1668.1608 in college at /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 1669.2846 1683 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1669.2846 (pause 0.49) 1669.7788 1684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1669.7788 Campus Crusade for Christ 1671.1607 1685 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1671.1607 (pause 0.44) 1671.6055 1686 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1671.6055 um, has a um, 1673.0324 1687 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1673.0324 (pause 0.32) 1673.3495 1688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1673.3495 organization for HBCU. It's called the Impact Movement. 1676.0679 1689 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1676.0679 (pause 0.65) 1676.7149 1690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1676.7149 And so it's a uh, campus ministry, 1678.3842 1691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1678.3842 (pause 0.46) 1678.8459 1692 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1678.8459 and I became the- the uh- the teacher for Impact Movement at /RD-SCHOOL-8/ for those- 1683.0180 1693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1683.0180 (pause 0.50) 1683.5169 1694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1683.5169 two of those three years. 1684.4262 1695 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1684.4262 (pause 0.99) 1685.4194 1696 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1685.4194 And uh, at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ I majored in, um, fine arts, 1687.9094 1697 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1687.9094 (pause 0.71) 1688.6217 1698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1688.6217 concentration computer graphics. 1690.0578 1699 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1690.0578 (pause 1.09) 1691.1490 1700 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1691.1490 I thought I was gonna be a cartoon 1692.6784 1701 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1692.6784 (pause 0.26) 1692.9395 1702 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1692.9395 animator 1693.4851 1703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1693.4851 (pause 0.59) 1694.0761 1704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1694.0761 and a comic book artist cause that's 1695.5309 1705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1695.5309 (pause 0.17) 1695.6988 1706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1695.6988 you know- 1695.9553 1707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1695.9553 (pause 0.65) 1696.6034 1708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1696.6034 I love drawing, and I do voi- voices and impersonations. 1699.6110 1709 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1699.6110 (pause 0.07) 1699.6763 1710 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1699.6763 I would do some now but 1700.8035 1711 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1700.8035 (pause 0.14) 1700.9387 1712 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1700.9387 it would make you laugh, and then 1701.8853 1713 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1701.8853 (pause 0.28) 1702.1604 1714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1702.1604 it would ruin this recording. 1703.0697 1715 DCB_int_01 1703.7085 [] 1704.1888 1716 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1703.8857 [But] um- 1704.6038 1717 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1705.1820 but yeah. 1705.6110 1718 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1705.6110 (pause 0.53) 1706.1367 1719 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1706.1367 I would like impersonate 1707.0926 1720 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1707.0926 (pause 0.21) 1707.3025 1721 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1707.3025 Power Rangers, Batman, Scooby Doo. 1709.2049 1722 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1709.2049 (pause 0.28) 1709.4847 1723 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1709.4847 So I thought I would be a voice over artist 1711.4711 1724 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1711.4711 (pause 0.45) 1711.9234 1725 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1711.9234 and a uh, 1712.5902 1726 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1712.5902 (pause 0.13) 1712.7196 1727 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1712.7196 visual artist, a comic book artist. So I- I would draw comic books in my basement. When I was wasn't playing video games, I'd draw comic books. 1718.2871 1728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1718.2871 (pause 0.59) 1718.8735 1729 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1718.8735 Cause I wasn't- I'm not very athletic. I didn't like to play sports but I- I like to be creative and draw and write. 1723.3172 1730 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1723.3172 (pause 0.49) 1723.8115 1731 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1723.8115 So 1724.2778 1732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1724.2778 (pause 0.68) 1724.9621 1733 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1724.9621 I thought I would do that but 1725.9133 1734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1725.9133 (pause 0.60) 1726.5101 1735 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1726.5101 at /RD-SCHOOL-8/ is when God gave me clarity. I was interning at 1730.1659 1736 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1730.1659 (pause 0.50) 1730.6683 1737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1730.6683 /RD-WORK-9/, 1731.7936 1738 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1731.7936 (pause 1.19) 1732.9858 1739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1732.9858 and I just hated it. 1733.8857 1740 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1733.8857 (pause 0.27) 1734.1561 1741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1734.1561 No offense /RD-WORK-3/, 1735.0701 1742 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1735.0701 (pause 0.30) 1735.3685 1743 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1735.3685 but I just- 1736.1052 1744 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1736.1052 (pause 0.66) 1736.7662 1745 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1736.7662 I just- 1737.2232 1746 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1737.2232 (pause 1.23) 1738.4495 1747 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1738.4495 you ever felt like you just w- 1739.7411 1748 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1739.7411 (pause 0.28) 1740.0163 1749 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1740.0163 you weren't in the right place? 1741.4058 1750 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1741.4058 (pause 0.70) 1742.1052 1751 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1742.1052 I thought this is what I wanted to do with my life, 1744.0345 1752 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1744.0345 (pause 0.67) 1744.7013 1753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1744.7013 but I went to this um- 1745.9743 1754 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1745.9743 (pause 0.73) 1746.7064 1755 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1746.7064 this conference for teenagers called uh, Acquire the Fire. 1749.7501 1756 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1749.7501 (pause 0.97) 1750.7153 1757 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1750.7153 Uh, Acquire the Fire 1751.7645 1758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1751.7645 (pause 0.22) 1751.9836 1759 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1751.9836 by Teen Mania, 1752.9115 1760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1752.9115 (pause 0.18) 1753.0934 1761 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1753.0934 it's a ministry. They- they- 1754.3384 1762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1754.3384 (pause 0.27) 1754.6077 1763 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1754.6077 They do these stadium events all over the country, and they have speakers and 1757.3774 1764 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1757.3774 (pause 0.40) 1757.7785 1765 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1757.7785 rock bands and rappers and 1759.4291 1766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1759.4291 (pause 0.65) 1760.0761 1767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1760.0761 um, 1760.3885 1768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1760.3885 (pause 0.62) 1761.0087 1769 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1761.0087 you know, prayer and 1762.0205 1770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1762.0205 (pause 0.76) 1762.7806 1771 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1762.7806 multimedia like- 1763.8391 1772 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1763.8391 (pause 0.55) 1764.3893 1773 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1764.3893 They would make little short films and- 1765.9840 1774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1765.9840 (pause 0.11) 1766.0959 1775 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1766.0959 and 1766.2545 1776 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1766.2545 (pause 0.20) 1766.4538 1777 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1766.4538 skits, and I'm like, man, 1767.5123 1778 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1767.5123 (pause 0.29) 1767.8014 1779 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1767.8014 1767.9366 1780 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1767.9366 (pause 0.26) 1768.1977 1781 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1768.1977 this is so cool. Man, like 1769.4334 1782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1769.4334 (pause 0.50) 1769.9370 1783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1769.9370 it's- it's the performing arts meets the visual arts meets ministry. 1773.1672 1784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1773.1672 (pause 0.48) 1773.6522 1785 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1773.6522 And I was like, 1774.1464 1786 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1774.1464 (pause 0.33) 1774.4728 1787 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1774.4728 this is what I wanna do. 1775.5779 1788 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1775.5779 (pause 0.35) 1775.9230 1789 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1775.9230 Not sitting in /RD-WORK-9/ designing stuff for their website. 1778.5109 1790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1778.5109 (pause 0.76) 1779.2745 1791 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1779.2745 I was doing some real menial things there. 1781.3541 1792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1781.3541 (pause 0.74) 1782.0909 1793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1782.0909 The int- so I quit the internship there. 1783.5259 1794 DCB_int_01 1783.5119 1784.2393 1795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1784.8175 Miss- 1785.1113 1796 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1785.1113 (pause 0.21) 1785.3258 1797 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1785.3258 Uh, I'm not gonna say her name, but 1786.6081 1798 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1786.6081 (pause 0.52) 1787.1256 1799 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1787.1256 she- sh- 1787.4147 1800 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1787.4147 (pause 0.14) 1787.5500 1801 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1787.5500 she wasn't 1788.0163 1802 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1788.0163 (pause 0.11) 1788.1282 1803 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1788.1282 seem- didn't seem too thrilled about it cause I did a short film 1790.6648 1804 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1790.6648 (pause 0.40) 1791.0693 1805 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1791.0693 at /RD-SCHOOL-8/ called The Road to Damascus. 1793.4987 1806 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1793.4987 (pause 0.57) 1794.0722 1807 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1794.0722 So I took a cinematography class. I had never l- 1796.4456 1808 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1796.4456 (pause 0.24) 1796.6823 1809 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1796.6823 thought I would do films but I said- 1797.9599 1810 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1797.9599 (pause 0.61) 1798.5708 1811 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1798.5708 we had to do a five minute short film, so 1800.0489 1812 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1800.0489 (pause 0.44) 1800.4872 1813 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1800.4872 my friend worked at /RD-SCHOOL-8/ Television. We got two cameras. 1803.4330 1814 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1803.4330 (pause 0.38) 1803.8154 1815 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1803.8154 Thanksgiving 1804.4449 1816 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1804.4449 (pause 0.12) 1804.5661 1817 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1804.5661 two thousand four- 1805.6386 1818 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1805.6386 (pause 0.21) 1805.8437 1819 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1805.8437 Thanksgiving weekend, we filmed it in three days. A forty minute short film, we shot it in uh, 1809.7548 1820 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1809.7548 (pause 0.58) 1810.3376 1821 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1810.3376 uh, 1810.6127 1822 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1810.6127 (pause 0.32) 1810.9298 1823 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1810.9298 uh- what was it? Kentland, um- 1812.6877 1824 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1812.6877 (pause 0.29) 1812.9815 1825 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1812.9815 we were over behind the Public Playhouse filming. We were filming all over 1815.3771 1826 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1815.3771 (pause 0.10) 1815.4796 1827 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1815.4796 PG County. 1815.9786 1828 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1815.9786 (pause 0.39) 1816.3703 1829 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1816.3703 And basically I played this 1817.4754 1830 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1817.4754 (pause 0.36) 1817.8391 1831 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1817.8391 drug dealer who 1818.6737 1832 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1818.6737 (pause 0.34) 1819.0141 1833 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1819.0141 w- 1819.1074 1834 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1819.1074 (pause 0.07) 1819.1727 1835 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1819.1727 got locked up in a juvenile detention center but came out 1821.7035 1836 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1821.7035 (pause 0.36) 1822.0625 1837 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1822.0625 and had a encounter with Christ 1823.3262 1838 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1823.3262 (pause 0.47) 1823.7924 1839 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1823.7924 and changed his life around. 1824.7996 1840 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1824.7996 (pause 0.69) 1825.4897 1841 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1825.4897 So 1825.9467 1842 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1825.9467 (pause 0.24) 1826.1880 1843 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1826.1880 uh, one day I might show it you, 1827.3444 1844 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1827.3444 (pause 0.26) 1827.6055 1845 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1827.6055 but it's a- 1828.2164 1846 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1828.2164 (pause 0.34) 1828.5568 1847 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1828.5568 it's a no budget film. 1829.4241 1848 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1829.4241 (pause 0.54) 1829.9650 1849 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1829.9650 I paid my actors with pizza 1831.1074 1850 DCB_int_01 1831.7928 1832.2218 1851 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1832.2440 um, 1832.9527 1852 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1832.9527 (pause 0.57) 1833.5216 1853 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1833.5216 because I was a college student with no money. 1835.2422 1854 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1835.2422 (pause 0.60) 1835.8391 1855 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1835.8391 But we- we did some screenings of the film at my church, 1838.5482 1856 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1838.5482 (pause 0.43) 1838.9807 1857 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1838.9807 and lot of people got saved. 1840.4635 1858 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1840.4635 (pause 0.43) 1840.8925 1859 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1840.8925 Um, I- I preached the gospel 1842.5152 1860 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1842.5152 (pause 0.19) 1842.7064 1861 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1842.7064 of Jesus Christ at the um- 1844.1332 1862 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1844.1332 (pause 0.56) 1844.6963 1863 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1844.6963 after the movie showing we had a praise band, 1846.6640 1864 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1846.6640 (pause 0.34) 1846.9997 1865 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1846.9997 lot of kids got saved, and I said, man, this is what I wanna do with my life. 1849.6844 1866 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1849.6844 (pause 0.45) 1850.1367 1867 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1850.1367 I wanna make multi media ministry, 1852.1791 1868 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1852.1791 (pause 0.28) 1852.4589 1869 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1852.4589 multi media ministry. So that's how my company /RD-WORK-7/ got started in college. 1856.0260 1870 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1856.0260 (pause 0.62) 1856.6450 1871 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1856.6450 You know um, we- we help make the Bible make sense through multi media venues, 1859.9650 1872 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1859.9650 (pause 0.62) 1860.5805 1873 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1860.5805 so 1861.0141 1874 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1861.0141 (pause 0.07) 1861.0887 1875 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1861.0887 rapping, preaching, 1862.3524 1876 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1862.3524 (pause 0.24) 1862.5890 1877 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1862.5890 consulting, 1863.2791 1878 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1863.2791 (pause 0.82) 1864.0951 1879 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1864.0951 clothing. 1864.6314 1880 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1864.6314 (pause 0.87) 1865.4987 1881 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1865.4987 We make all kind of things, video blogs, written blogs, 1867.9001 1882 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1867.9001 (pause 0.57) 1868.4725 1883 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1868.4725 uh- 1869.0087 1884 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1869.0087 (pause 0.29) 1869.3025 1885 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1869.3025 we have all kinds of resources to help people grow. 1871.0883 1886 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1871.0883 (pause 0.73) 1871.8204 1887 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1871.8204 So I started that in college and this f- 1873.2053 1888 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1873.2053 (pause 0.12) 1873.3219 1889 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1873.3219 this movie was a great catalyst for that, so I went back to my internship at /RD-WORK-3/. 1876.7153 1890 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1876.7153 (pause 0.50) 1877.2189 1891 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1877.2189 I mean this is my senior year at /RD-SCHOOL-8/, my senior year. 1880.0539 1892 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1880.0539 (pause 0.54) 1880.5984 1893 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1880.5984 My- my /professor/ told me I had to take an internship so I 1883.4147 1894 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1883.4147 (pause 0.12) 1883.5313 1895 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1883.5313 do this internship, and I just told 1884.9582 1896 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1884.9582 (pause 0.46) 1885.4140 1897 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1885.4140 my intern 1886.1711 1898 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1886.1711 (pause 0.14) 1886.3093 1899 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1886.3093 supervisor, I said, you know, Miss so and so, 1888.3376 1900 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1888.3376 (pause 0.97) 1889.3122 1901 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1889.3122 last night was incredible. 1890.4126 1902 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1890.4126 (pause 0.12) 1890.5292 1903 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1890.5292 Like 1890.8183 1904 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1890.8183 (pause 0.11) 1890.9255 1905 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1890.9255 fifty- 1891.2240 1906 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1891.2240 (pause 0.12) 1891.3452 1907 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1891.3452 fifty kids gave their life to Jesus Christ. 1893.3398 1908 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1893.3398 (pause 0.76) 1894.1045 1909 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1894.1045 And she was like, 1894.5474 1910 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1894.5474 (pause 0.25) 1894.7992 1911 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1894.7992 is that 1895.1070 1912 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1895.1070 (pause 0.08) 1895.1909 1913 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1895.1909 what you wanted to happen? 1896.5043 1914 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1896.5043 (pause 0.23) 1896.7390 1915 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1896.7390 I was like, uh, 1897.6343 1916 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1897.6343 (pause 0.08) 1897.7182 1917 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1897.7182 yeah. 1898.4177 1918 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1898.4177 (pause 1.26) 1899.6755 1919 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1899.6755 I am a Christian. 1900.9951 1920 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1900.9951 (pause 0.23) 1901.2236 1921 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1901.2236 And uh, I just told her, you know 1902.5991 1922 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1902.5991 (pause 1.01) 1903.6063 1923 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1903.6063 I can't- 1904.0120 1924 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1904.0120 (pause 0.43) 1904.4445 1925 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1904.4445 I can't keep driving up here to Odenton and doing this. Like 1906.8832 1926 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1906.8832 (pause 0.77) 1907.6572 1927 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1907.6572 I don't wanna do this for a living. 1908.7716 1928 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1908.7716 (pause 0.14) 1908.9162 1929 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1908.9162 I'm sorry. 1909.3545 1930 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1909.3545 (pause 0.12) 1909.4711 1931 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1909.4711 Sorry Big Bird. 1910.2171 1932 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1910.2171 (pause 0.81) 1911.0273 1933 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1911.0273 So 1911.4144 1934 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1911.4144 (pause 0.20) 1911.6149 1935 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1911.6149 I said goodbye to all the um- 1913.0277 1936 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1913.0277 (pause 0.46) 1913.4847 1937 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1913.4847 The characters weren't there but 1914.3986 1938 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1914.3986 (pause 0.14) 1914.5432 1939 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1914.5432 I would see Big Bird on the screen and stuff. 1915.9280 1940 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1915.9280 (pause 0.49) 1916.4212 1941 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1916.4212 So I just like, you know- 1917.3025 1942 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1917.3025 (pause 0.14) 1917.4423 1943 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1917.4423 this isn't for me. 1918.1511 1944 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1918.1511 (pause 0.44) 1918.5941 1945 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1918.5941 I gotta go. 1919.1117 1946 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1919.1117 (pause 0.43) 1919.5453 1947 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1919.5453 And that's when I went and started my own- started my company, 1921.9047 1948 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1921.9047 (pause 0.49) 1922.3932 1949 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1922.3932 and then I got hired as a youth pastor um, 1924.2164 1950 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1924.2164 (pause 0.21) 1924.4309 1951 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1924.4309 and the rest is kind of history, how I got into 1926.1235 1952 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1926.1235 (pause 0.52) 1926.6411 1953 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1926.6411 my full time 1927.2613 1954 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1927.2613 (pause 0.14) 1927.4058 1955 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1927.4058 career 1927.8208 1956 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1927.8208 (pause 0.33) 1928.1461 1957 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1928.1461 in ministry and in music and multimedia. 1930.5381 1958 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1930.5381 (pause 0.48) 1931.0184 1959 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1931.0184 But that's kind of how it happened, 1931.7551 1960 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1931.7551 (pause 0.14) 1931.8997 1961 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1931.8997 straight from college on. 1932.8789 1962 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1932.8789 (pause 0.41) 1933.2892 1963 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1933.2892 Yeah. 1933.5177 1964 DCB_int_01 1934.4725 So let's talk about- 1936.2677 1965 DCB_int_01 1936.2677 (pause 0.23) 1936.4962 1966 DCB_int_01 1936.4962 1936.8738 1967 DCB_int_01 1936.8738 (pause 0.44) 1937.3168 1968 DCB_int_01 1937.3168 cause I do wanna get to 1938.2308 1969 DCB_int_01 1938.2308 (pause 0.19) 1938.4219 1970 DCB_int_01 1938.4219 kind of where you are currently 1939.7975 1971 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1939.9047 Mm-hm. 1940.1612 1972 DCB_int_01 1940.2300 in your ministry. But let's talk about- so, 1942.2210 1973 DCB_int_01 1942.2210 (pause 0.91) 1943.1303 1974 DCB_int_01 1943.1303 you went- 1944.1375 1975 DCB_int_01 1944.1375 (pause 0.91) 1945.0468 1976 DCB_int_01 1945.0468 at that- after you left /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 1946.3372 1977 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1946.4631 Mm-hm. 1946.6963 1978 DCB_int_01 1946.7709 what happened? 1947.2325 1979 DCB_int_01 1947.2325 (pause 0.43) 1947.6615 1980 DCB_int_01 1947.6615 Were you- 1947.8993 1981 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1948.5008 Yeah. 1948.7340 1982 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1948.7340 (pause 0.14) 1948.8692 1983 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1948.8692 Soon as I graduated from /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 1950.1515 1984 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1950.1515 (pause 0.41) 1950.5618 1985 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1950.5618 University, 1951.1866 1986 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1951.1866 (pause 0.20) 1951.3872 1987 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1951.3872 I was hired at /RD-WORK-3/ 1953.1999 1988 DCB_int_01 1953.4657 Mm-hm. 1953.6801 1989 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1953.7408 to be the Youth um- 1954.9158 1990 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1954.9158 (pause 0.10) 1955.0184 1991 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1955.0184 a Youth Discipleship Director. 1956.4406 1992 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1956.4406 (pause 0.50) 1956.9442 1993 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1956.9442 So I basically was overseeing creative elements for the youth ministry 1960.3469 1994 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1960.3469 (pause 0.51) 1960.8599 1995 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1960.8599 and you know, teaching- teaching the kids 1962.7716 1996 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1962.7716 (pause 0.41) 1963.1820 1997 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1963.1820 and uh, overseeing like their small group ministry. Like, we would get the kids and break 'em up in groups 1967.4381 1998 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1967.4381 (pause 0.14) 1967.5826 1999 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1967.5826 and discussed what we learned in church 1969.0468 2000 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1969.0468 (pause 0.49) 1969.5364 2001 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1969.5364 and break it down. So 1970.4130 2002 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1970.4130 (pause 0.42) 1970.8362 2003 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1970.8362 I was doing creative things 1972.0532 2004 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1972.0532 (pause 0.40) 1972.4495 2005 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1972.4495 at the uh, youth ministry. 1973.8624 2006 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1973.8624 (pause 0.48) 1974.3427 2007 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1974.3427 Um, and I was teaching. 1975.6949 2008 DCB_int_01 1977.3211 And so then 1978.3889 2009 DCB_int_01 1978.3889 (pause 0.85) 1979.2422 2010 DCB_int_01 1979.2422 um- 1979.7132 2011 DCB_int_01 1979.7132 (pause 0.10) 1979.8111 2012 DCB_int_01 1979.8111 How long have you been married? 1980.6924 2013 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1981.1866 Uh, seven [years.] 1982.1892 2014 DCB_int_01 1982.0773 [Okay], so 1982.6741 2015 DCB_int_01 1982.8828 we're at the point where you almost met your wife now? 1985.1443 2016 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1985.1070 Yeah. 1985.3075 2017 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1985.4520 [Almost.] 1985.7225 2018 DCB_int_01 1985.5500 [So how'd] that happen? 1986.2774 2019 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1986.8090 So I met her in the youth ministry. 1988.0473 2020 DCB_int_01 1988.1554 Oh. 1988.3139 2021 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1988.6170 1989.4843 2022 DCB_int_01 1989.5076 And I didn't know that. 1990.2343 2023 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1990.3469 Yeah. 1990.8459 2024 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1990.8459 (pause 0.10) 1990.9485 2025 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1990.9485 Yeah, so 1991.5453 2026 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1991.5453 (pause 0.10) 1991.6432 2027 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1991.6432 she- 1991.9556 2028 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1991.9556 (pause 0.10) 1992.0582 2029 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1992.0582 she came from New Jersey. 1993.2053 2030 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1993.2053 (pause 0.53) 1993.7357 2031 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1993.7357 She- 1994.0450 2032 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1994.0450 (pause 0.12) 1994.1694 2033 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1994.1694 she um- 1995.1548 2034 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1995.1548 (pause 0.88) 1996.0392 2035 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1996.0392 she felt- 1996.4589 2036 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1996.4589 (pause 0.64) 1997.0977 2037 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1997.0977 she went into a time of fasting and prayer which is basically 1999.5410 2038 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 1999.5410 (pause 0.58) 2000.1181 2039 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2000.1181 where you seek God for clarity on our life. 2001.8433 2040 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2001.8433 (pause 0.16) 2002.0019 2041 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2002.0019 You- you- 2002.5008 2042 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2002.5008 (pause 0.11) 2002.6127 2043 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2002.6127 you don't eat food for awhile, 2003.8344 2044 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2003.8344 (pause 0.15) 2003.9883 2045 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2003.9883 and you just go into some prayer. 2005.3219 2046 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2005.3219 (pause 0.52) 2005.8395 2047 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2005.8395 And she felt God calling her to move to Maryland. 2007.5589 2048 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2007.5589 (pause 0.79) 2008.3516 2049 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2008.3516 And it was crazy cause she doesn't have any family in Maryland. She's from New Jersey. 2011.5037 2050 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2011.5037 (pause 0.12) 2011.6203 2051 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2011.6203 Her fam- her family was like, what? Why you going to Maryland? 2013.7268 2052 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2013.7268 (pause 0.70) 2014.4262 2053 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2014.4262 But she went to Maryland. I tell her, 2015.7225 2054 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2015.7225 (pause 0.41) 2016.1375 2055 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2016.1375 everybody, she came to Maryland because I was here. 2017.9047 2056 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2017.9047 (pause 0.19) 2018.0994 2057 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2018.0994 2019.1113 2058 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2019.1113 (pause 1.44) 2020.5474 2059 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2020.5474 That's why she came. 2021.3914 2060 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2021.3914 (pause 0.35) 2021.7458 2061 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2021.7458 And so she came to Maryland, 2022.9675 2062 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2022.9675 (pause 0.51) 2023.4804 2063 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2023.4804 and 2023.7695 2064 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2023.7695 (pause 0.22) 2023.9933 2065 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2023.9933 she actually visited 2024.9714 2066 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2024.9714 (pause 0.19) 2025.1579 2067 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2025.1579 the church I was working at. 2026.2257 2068 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2026.2257 (pause 0.66) 2026.8832 2069 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2026.8832 And- 2027.3448 2070 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2027.3448 (pause 0.11) 2027.4567 2071 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2027.4567 and she started volunteering in the youth ministry where I was on staff at, and that's how we met. 2030.9014 2072 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2030.9014 (pause 0.66) 2031.5589 2073 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2031.5589 So we had a mutual connection to wanna see young people 2033.9230 2074 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2033.9230 (pause 0.43) 2034.3520 2075 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2034.3520 live better lives, l- ultimately live 2036.1845 2076 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2036.1845 (pause 0.19) 2036.3710 2077 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2036.3710 lives for Jesus Christ. 2037.3304 2078 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2037.3304 (pause 0.48) 2037.8107 2079 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2037.8107 And she's a teacher 2038.6827 2080 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2038.6827 (pause 0.43) 2039.1117 2081 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2039.1117 also. So she was teaching elementary school 2041.0421 2082 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2041.0421 (pause 0.57) 2041.6156 2083 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2041.6156 and working with teenagers 2042.8781 2084 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2042.8781 (pause 0.26) 2043.1346 2085 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2043.1346 in a volunteer basis. 2044.1511 2086 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2044.1511 (pause 0.51) 2044.6594 2087 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2044.6594 And I was teaching 2045.5360 2088 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2045.5360 (pause 0.13) 2045.6665 2089 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2045.6665 teenagers 2046.2494 2090 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2046.2494 (pause 0.46) 2046.7110 2091 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2046.7110 and working with them 2047.4478 2092 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2047.4478 (pause 0.26) 2047.7042 2093 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2047.7042 from a full time capacity on- on staff at the church. 2050.0374 2094 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2050.0374 (pause 0.44) 2050.4775 2095 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2050.4775 So 2050.8645 2096 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2050.8645 (pause 0.98) 2051.8437 2097 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2051.8437 that's how my wife /RD-NAME-2/ and I met, 2053.1447 2098 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2053.1447 (pause 0.62) 2053.7648 2099 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2053.7648 and um, after being friends and serving in ministry for about a year and a half, 2057.4800 2100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2057.4800 (pause 0.18) 2057.6572 2101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2057.6572 uh, we got married 2058.5898 2102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2058.5898 (pause 0.56) 2059.1540 2103 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2059.1540 um, in uh, two thousand eight. 2060.7114 2104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2060.7114 (pause 0.73) 2061.4423 2105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2061.4423 And uh, yeah, been married seven years. 2062.8599 2106 DCB_int_01 2063.3495 When'd you move to DC? 2064.2914 2107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2064.9955 We moved to DC in two thousand thirteen. 2066.8500 2108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2066.8500 (pause 0.16) 2067.0087 2109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2067.0087 So from two thousand eight to two thousand thirteen 2068.9345 2110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2068.9345 (pause 0.98) 2069.9137 2111 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2069.9137 I moved from Forestville, and I was living in Upper Marlboro briefly 2073.2698 2112 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2073.2698 (pause 0.70) 2073.9692 2113 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2073.9692 um, cause I didn't wanna be anywhere near DC. 2075.6945 2114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2075.6945 (pause 1.16) 2076.8509 2115 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2076.8509 You know? 2077.2659 2116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2077.2659 (pause 0.20) 2077.4664 2117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2077.4664 I was kind of like- if- 2078.5098 2118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2078.5098 (pause 0.13) 2078.6403 2119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2078.6403 if you're familiar with the story of um, 2080.3190 2120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2080.3190 (pause 0.84) 2081.1629 2121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2081.1629 uh, 2081.4008 2122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2081.4008 (pause 0.10) 2081.5033 2123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2081.5033 Jonah 2081.8764 2124 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2081.8764 (pause 0.11) 2081.9836 2125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2081.9836 in the Bible. 2082.5059 2126 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2082.5059 (pause 0.48) 2082.9908 2127 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2082.9908 He really hated the Ninevites. 2084.4177 2128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2084.4177 (pause 0.11) 2084.5237 2129 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2084.5237 I can't stand this city! 2086.2210 2130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2086.2210 (pause 0.18) 2086.3982 2131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2086.3982 I hate Nineveh! 2087.2888 2132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2087.2888 (pause 0.67) 2087.9556 2133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2087.9556 And you know, DC when I was growing up 2089.7136 2134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2089.7136 (pause 0.72) 2090.4305 2135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2090.4305 um, was you know, Chocolate City. It was the murder capital of the world. Choppa City. 2094.4499 2136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2094.4499 (pause 0.55) 2095.0048 2137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2095.0048 And my mom worked in DC Public Schools, so we would ride in DC, and I would duck 2098.4915 2138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2098.4915 (pause 0.12) 2098.6127 2139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2098.6127 in the back of the car. 2099.4474 2140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2099.4474 (pause 0.50) 2099.9510 2141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2099.9510 I would duck in the back of the car cause I didn't wanna get shot. 2101.7928 2142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2101.7928 (pause 0.45) 2102.2440 2143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2102.2440 That's how scared I was of DC. 2103.5309 2144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2103.5309 (pause 1.18) 2104.7153 2145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2104.7153 So I didn't wanna live th- 2105.4707 2146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2105.4707 (pause 0.14) 2105.6106 2147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2105.6106 I didn't wanna live anywhere near DC. We moved to Upper Marlboro briefly, 2108.0866 2148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2108.0866 (pause 0.19) 2108.2813 2149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2108.2813 but 2108.4212 2150 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2108.4212 (pause 0.09) 2108.5144 2151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2108.5144 in Upper Marlboro from two thousand eight to two thousand thirteen, 2110.9112 2152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2110.9112 (pause 0.97) 2111.8810 2153 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2111.8810 God started really moving on my heart to 2113.7275 2154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2113.7275 (pause 0.77) 2114.5004 2155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2114.5004 give me a burden for the city 2115.7175 2156 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2115.7175 (pause 0.42) 2116.1418 2157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2116.1418 that I didn't wanna be in. 2117.0510 2158 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2117.0510 (pause 0.59) 2117.6386 2159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2117.6386 And my heart got softened toward it 2119.2892 2160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2119.2892 (pause 0.10) 2119.3918 2161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2119.3918 to come and help 2120.0773 2162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2120.0773 (pause 0.51) 2120.5890 2163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2120.5890 and be a part of the solution. 2121.7594 2164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2121.7594 (pause 1.16) 2122.9191 2165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2122.9191 And so 2123.4460 2166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2123.4460 (pause 0.55) 2123.9916 2167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2123.9916 after much prayer, 2124.9288 2168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2124.9288 (pause 0.81) 2125.7390 2169 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2125.7390 fasting, consideration- 2127.0120 2170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2127.0120 (pause 0.19) 2127.2032 2171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2127.2032 We some praying, fasting people. 2128.4434 2172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2128.4434 (pause 0.70) 2129.1429 2173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2129.1429 Uh, my wife and I 2130.2481 2174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2130.2481 (pause 0.21) 2130.4579 2175 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2130.4579 uh, felt led by God to move from Upper Marlboro into DC, 2133.3617 2176 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2133.3617 (pause 0.52) 2133.8840 2177 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2133.8840 and that's when I resigned from my position as the youth 2136.3227 2178 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2136.3227 (pause 0.38) 2136.7004 2179 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2136.7004 minister 2137.2273 2180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2137.2273 (pause 0.49) 2137.7204 2181 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2137.7204 at /RD-WORK-3/ 2138.5597 2182 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2138.5597 (pause 0.49) 2139.0493 2183 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2139.0493 in two thousand thirteen 2140.0518 2184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2140.0518 (pause 0.27) 2140.3176 2185 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2140.3176 because God wanted me to come to DC 2141.9916 2186 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2141.9916 (pause 0.55) 2142.5465 2187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2142.5465 and uh, start /RD-WORK-5/ 2144.3918 2188 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2144.3918 (pause 0.69) 2145.0866 2189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2145.0866 um, here in /RD-WORK-5/. 2146.3083 2190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2146.3083 (pause 0.59) 2146.8958 2191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2146.8958 I didn't know it would be in /RD-WORK-5/ back then, 2148.7004 2192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2148.7004 (pause 0.61) 2149.3065 2193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2149.3065 but I knew that God wanted me to be 2151.0913 2194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2151.0913 (pause 0.08) 2151.1752 2195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2151.1752 out of Maryland 2152.2197 2196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2152.2197 (pause 0.26) 2152.4808 2197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2152.4808 and 2152.6487 2198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2152.6487 (pause 0.13) 2152.7746 2199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2152.7746 in- 2153.1896 2200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2153.1896 (pause 0.36) 2153.5486 2201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2153.5486 I wanted to- he wanted me to live where I lead. 2155.3205 2202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2155.3205 (pause 0.58) 2155.8976 2203 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2155.8976 And so we do live here in the community 2157.3058 2204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2157.3058 (pause 0.69) 2157.9912 2205 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2157.9912 um, about three minutes from um, /RD-WORK-5/ where we worship. 2160.7283 2206 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2160.7283 (pause 0.51) 2161.2412 2207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2161.2412 So 2161.5770 2208 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2161.5770 (pause 0.71) 2162.2846 2209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2162.2846 that's how we got to DC. We came in twenty thirteen. 2164.6067 2210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2164.6067 (pause 0.49) 2165.1010 2211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2165.1010 Uh, we were able to move here, 2166.7983 2212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2166.7983 (pause 0.69) 2167.4919 2213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2167.4919 and God miraculously worked it out. We were able to sell our home 2170.8492 2214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2170.8492 (pause 0.70) 2171.5533 2215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2171.5533 and move here 2173.0081 2216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2173.0081 (pause 0.72) 2173.7297 2217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2173.7297 and start doing ministry, 2175.4690 2218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2175.4690 (pause 0.34) 2175.8094 2219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2175.8094 and ever since then, we just been kind of 2177.8004 2220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2177.8004 (pause 0.89) 2178.6864 2221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2178.6864 seeing God's Grace. 2180.0060 2222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2180.0060 (pause 0.51) 2180.5131 2223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2180.5131 Um, people coming into the church. 2182.2990 2224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2182.2990 (pause 0.17) 2182.4715 2225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2182.4715 You know, we're able to help people physically and spiritually. 2184.9708 2226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2184.9708 (pause 0.62) 2185.5910 2227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2185.5910 We help feed people, 2186.6763 2228 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2186.6763 (pause 0.18) 2186.8535 2229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2186.8535 give people clothing. 2187.8420 2230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2187.8420 (pause 0.11) 2187.9492 2231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2187.9492 We help people with their bills. 2189.2129 2232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2189.2129 (pause 0.71) 2189.9263 2233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2189.9263 Uh, of course we share the Gospel of Jesus Christ with them. 2192.4664 2234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2192.4664 (pause 0.45) 2192.9187 2235 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2192.9187 We've seen people's lives change. People have gotten saved. 2195.2968 2236 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2195.2968 (pause 0.56) 2195.8564 2237 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2195.8564 People have- 2196.3040 2238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2196.3040 (pause 0.18) 2196.4859 2239 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2196.4859 that were on drugs, 2197.5339 2240 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2197.5339 (pause 0.57) 2198.1074 2241 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2198.1074 people that were selling drugs, people that were in criminal activity, 2200.4528 2242 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2200.4528 (pause 0.57) 2201.0264 2243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2201.0264 they're now, you know, tryna live their lives for Jesus. 2203.2646 2244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2203.2646 (pause 0.60) 2203.8603 2245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2203.8603 We have some people that have 2204.7089 2246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2204.7089 (pause 0.13) 2204.8395 2247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2204.8395 re-entered into society recently who come to the church, 2207.1942 2248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2207.1942 (pause 0.12) 2207.3155 2249 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2207.3155 and then we have some very affluent people that come to this church. 2209.4744 2250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2209.4744 (pause 0.57) 2210.0468 2251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2210.0468 So we're just a big hybrid of um, 2212.1777 2252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2212.1777 (pause 0.96) 2213.1383 2253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2213.1383 social economic 2214.3133 2254 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2214.3133 (pause 0.65) 2214.9615 2255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2214.9615 goodness 2215.5991 2256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2215.5991 (pause 0.18) 2215.7810 2257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2215.7810 2216.4151 2258 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2216.4151 (pause 0.20) 2216.6157 2259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2216.6157 from different 2217.2358 2260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2217.2358 (pause 0.42) 2217.6601 2261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2217.6601 stages and areas of the DC Metropolitan area. 2220.1548 2262 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2220.1548 (pause 0.54) 2220.6910 2263 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2220.6910 And everybody gathers in the gym in /RD-WORK-5/. 2223.2871 2264 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2223.2871 (pause 0.54) 2223.8233 2265 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2223.8233 And the one thing we have in common is that we love God, and we- 2226.3040 2266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2226.3040 (pause 0.13) 2226.4346 2267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2226.4346 we have a love for each other. 2227.4184 2268 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2227.4184 (pause 0.57) 2227.9908 2269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2227.9908 Even though we may have different skin tones, we may have different bank account 2231.3854 2270 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2231.3854 (pause 0.10) 2231.4880 2271 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2231.4880 state- uh, statuses, 2232.8869 2272 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2232.8869 (pause 0.50) 2233.3858 2273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2233.3858 we may live in d- different size houses, 2235.2172 2274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2235.2172 (pause 0.75) 2235.9679 2275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2235.9679 we all have the same God, and so 2237.7118 2276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2237.7118 (pause 0.69) 2238.4066 2277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2238.4066 /RD-WORK-5/ is 2239.4977 2278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2239.4977 (pause 0.84) 2240.3359 2279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2240.3359 the vision that God gave me 2241.6648 2280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2241.6648 (pause 0.32) 2241.9865 2281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2241.9865 when he- when I felt him leading me to leave 2243.8704 2282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2243.8704 (pause 0.50) 2244.3693 2283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2244.3693 /RD-WORK-3/ and come to DC. 2245.7821 2284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2245.7821 (pause 0.23) 2246.0141 2285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2246.0141 2246.3312 2286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2246.3312 (pause 0.57) 2246.9001 2287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2246.9001 And w- we've been worshipping 2248.2057 2288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2248.2057 (pause 0.60) 2248.8026 2289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2248.8026 at /RD-WORK-5/ 2249.8610 2290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2249.8610 (pause 0.19) 2250.0522 2291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2250.0522 um, in /RD-WORK-5/ 2251.3205 2292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2251.3205 (pause 0.37) 2251.6924 2293 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2251.6924 since June twenty fourteen, 2253.0493 2294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2253.0493 (pause 0.10) 2253.1519 2295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2253.1519 so 2253.4083 2296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2253.4083 (pause 0.25) 2253.6555 2297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2253.6555 about a year and half now. 2254.5414 2298 DCB_int_01 2254.9471 So two questions. My first one is 2257.0641 2299 DCB_int_01 2257.0641 (pause 0.63) 2257.6971 2300 DCB_int_01 2257.6971 how- 2258.2473 2301 DCB_int_01 2258.2473 (pause 0.83) 2259.0773 2302 DCB_int_01 2259.0773 how were you led to Northeast 2260.9471 2303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2261.0823 [Mm-hm.] 2261.4787 2304 DCB_int_01 2261.2315 [versus] Southeast, Northwest, [Southwest?] 2263.8428 2305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2263.5210 [Oh] yeah. 2264.1119 2306 DCB_int_01 2264.4758 And then how did you end up at 2266.0658 2307 DCB_int_01 2266.0658 (pause 0.10) 2266.1637 2308 DCB_int_01 2266.1637 /RD-WORK-4/? Cause there's other community centers, [and so] those two things. 2270.2333 2309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2268.6724 [Mm, yeah.] 2269.2273 2310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2270.3545 Yeah, um, we ended up in Northeast because- 2272.2710 2311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2272.2710 (pause 0.13) 2272.3969 2312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2272.3969 it was really- really full circle. 2273.7398 2313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2273.7398 (pause 0.50) 2274.2387 2314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2274.2387 Um, 2274.7330 2315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2274.7330 (pause 0.83) 2275.5618 2316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2275.5618 remember um, when earlier in the conversation I- 2277.4037 2317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2277.4037 (pause 0.41) 2277.8140 2318 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2277.8140 I mentioned how I went to school at l- 2279.5206 2319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2279.5206 (pause 0.09) 2279.6092 2320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2279.6092 um, [/RD-SCHOOL-6/-] 2280.8029 2321 DCB_int_01 2280.4439 [Mm-hm.] 2280.8123 2322 DCB_int_01 2281.1014 Down the street. 2281.6280 2323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2281.7250 Down the street from where I live now. 2283.1659 2324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2283.1659 (pause 0.82) 2283.9865 2325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2283.9865 So 2284.3549 2326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2284.3549 (pause 0.18) 2284.5321 2327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2284.5321 when I was three years old, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-6/, 2286.5465 2328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2286.5465 (pause 0.10) 2286.6444 2329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2286.6444 and then when my sons- I have twin sons by the way. I didn't say that earlier. 2289.4301 2330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2289.4301 (pause 0.39) 2289.8187 2331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2289.8187 So my wife /RD-NAME-2/, 2290.9331 2332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2290.9331 (pause 0.51) 2291.4460 2333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2291.4460 we have twin sons, /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/, so 2293.3345 2334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2293.3345 (pause 0.72) 2294.0514 2335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2294.0514 /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/ were three 2295.2685 2336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2295.2685 (pause 0.24) 2295.5063 2337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2295.5063 when we moved to DC. 2296.3409 2338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2296.3409 (pause 0.60) 2296.9378 2339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2296.9378 So 2297.3201 2340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2297.3201 (pause 0.45) 2297.7724 2341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2297.7724 it was really full circle. Sometimes God does that. He'll- 2299.8008 2342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2299.8008 (pause 0.35) 2300.1494 2343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2300.1494 2300.8115 2344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2300.8115 (pause 0.52) 2301.3291 2345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2301.3291 so it's kind of those markers of his testament. 2303.4973 2346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2303.4973 (pause 0.08) 2303.5766 2347 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2303.5766 /RD-NAME-2/ you were three when you were in this land. 2305.4045 2348 DCB_int_01 2305.5339 Mm-hm. 2305.9442 2349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2305.9442 If- your sons are three, 2306.9514 2350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2307.4456 living in the same community. 2308.4575 2351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2308.4575 (pause 0.41) 2308.8632 2352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2308.8632 So 2309.2409 2353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2309.2409 (pause 1.09) 2310.3320 2354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2310.3320 um, 2310.8216 2355 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2310.8216 (pause 0.52) 2311.3380 2356 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2311.3380 I had a friend that mine that lives 2312.5504 2357 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2312.5504 (pause 0.34) 2312.8908 2358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2312.8908 on Fifty Fifth Street in Northeast. 2314.2244 2359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2314.2244 (pause 0.47) 2314.6906 2360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2314.6906 Um, 2315.1709 2361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2315.1709 (pause 0.31) 2315.4833 2362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2315.4833 he- he's my music engineer. He was um, 2317.3578 2363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2317.3578 (pause 0.60) 2317.9582 2364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2317.9582 mixing and mastering my music, 2319.2451 2365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2319.2451 (pause 0.28) 2319.5296 2366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2319.5296 so basically he was 2320.6207 2367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2320.6207 (pause 0.34) 2320.9564 2368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2320.9564 making it sound very polished 2322.4439 2369 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2322.4439 (pause 0.40) 2322.8449 2370 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2322.8449 so that I could um, 2323.7542 2371 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2323.7542 (pause 0.48) 2324.2333 2372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2324.2333 you know, 2324.6203 2373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2324.6203 (pause 0.51) 2325.1332 2374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2325.1332 uh, 2325.4643 2375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2325.4643 (pause 0.10) 2325.5669 2376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2325.5669 make good quality music. 2326.6160 2377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2326.6160 (pause 0.26) 2326.8725 2378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2326.8725 He started getting sick 2327.6885 2379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2327.6885 (pause 0.39) 2328.0755 2380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2328.0755 um, on Fifty Fifth Street, 2329.2144 2381 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2329.2144 (pause 0.53) 2329.7484 2382 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2329.7484 and so we uh, 2330.7182 2383 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2330.7182 (pause 0.33) 2331.0446 2384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2331.0446 took him in to our home in Upper Marlboro 2333.0124 2385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2333.0124 (pause 0.54) 2333.5486 2386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2333.5486 and his family, 2334.3646 2387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2334.3646 (pause 0.35) 2334.7190 2388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2334.7190 and uh, 2335.3159 2389 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2335.3159 (pause 0.32) 2335.6364 2390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2335.6364 we just started growing our relationship. 2337.2172 2391 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2337.2172 (pause 0.38) 2337.5949 2392 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2337.5949 I was doing /RD-WORK-8/ projects on Fifty Fifth. 2340.1595 2393 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2340.1595 (pause 0.44) 2340.5978 2394 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2340.5978 Just 2340.7936 2395 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2340.7936 (pause 0.16) 2340.9557 2396 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2340.9557 kept coming back to the Lincoln Heights area, kept coming back to Lincoln Heights area. 2343.6881 2397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2343.6881 (pause 0.47) 2344.1591 2398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2344.1591 And that's at the same area I didn't wanna live in, but that's where I was from. I had went to school here. 2347.9966 2399 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2347.9966 (pause 0.81) 2348.8115 2400 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2348.8115 And I just- I didn't want my family around the violence that can be in the neighborhood and the trouble. I wanted to live a nice cushy life. 2355.1799 2401 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2355.1799 (pause 0.50) 2355.6788 2402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2355.6788 Why can't I do ministry where it's all nice and peachy keen? 2358.8123 2403 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2358.8123 (pause 0.64) 2359.4499 2404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2359.4499 And God just started breaking my heart, breaking my heart, breaking my heart. 2362.4668 2405 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2362.4668 (pause 0.35) 2362.8119 2406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2362.8119 In two thousand seven, 2363.9030 2407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2363.9030 (pause 0.46) 2364.3600 2408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2364.3600 just before I got married, 2365.4511 2409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2365.4511 (pause 0.27) 2365.7204 2410 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2365.7204 I went to Australia 2366.5877 2411 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2366.5877 (pause 0.73) 2367.3151 2412 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2367.3151 uh, and visited Hillsong Church in Australia, 2369.4787 2413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2369.4787 (pause 0.49) 2369.9729 2414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2369.9729 in B- Baulkham Hills- 2371.2086 2415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2371.2086 (pause 0.24) 2371.4453 2416 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2371.4453 Baulkham Hills- Bauk- Hills. 2373.0540 2417 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2373.0540 (pause 0.25) 2373.3058 2418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2373.3058 2373.4456 2419 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2373.4456 (pause 1.08) 2374.5274 2420 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2374.5274 You can look up Hillsong. You'll find it. 2375.8937 2421 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2375.8937 (pause 0.24) 2376.1315 2422 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2376.1315 It's a big church in Australia. 2377.2972 2423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2377.2972 (pause 0.47) 2377.7623 2424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2377.7623 And there I had a vision 2378.9980 2425 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2378.9980 (pause 0.54) 2379.5342 2426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2379.5342 that 2379.8606 2427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2379.8606 (pause 0.11) 2379.9726 2428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2379.9726 I was in DC and not in Upper Marlboro 2381.7258 2429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2381.7258 (pause 1.15) 2382.8775 2430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2382.8775 helping people. 2383.4791 2431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2383.4791 (pause 0.49) 2383.9722 2432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2383.9722 And so that was the start of it. 2384.8674 2433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2384.8674 (pause 0.62) 2385.4830 2434 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2385.4830 From there I started getting promptings from God in my prayers, 2388.1921 2435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2388.1921 (pause 0.43) 2388.6211 2436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2388.6211 other revelations. Some of them came and prophesied to me 2391.2078 2437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2391.2078 (pause 0.14) 2391.3524 2438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2391.3524 about being bold, to go where God called me. I'm like, 2393.7584 2439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2393.7584 (pause 0.17) 2393.9263 2440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2393.9263 how do you know what God was telling me? 2395.5432 2441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2395.5432 (pause 0.90) 2396.4385 2442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2396.4385 Get out of here Prophet! 2398.1684 2443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2398.1684 (pause 0.28) 2398.4482 2444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2398.4482 And a prophet is a person that hears from God and can give you 2400.6164 2445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2400.6164 (pause 0.48) 2401.0967 2446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2401.0967 a direct message 2401.9955 2447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2401.9955 (pause 0.13) 2402.1214 2448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2402.1214 if you don't know what a prophet is and you're listening to this recording. 2404.1684 2449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2404.1684 (pause 0.84) 2405.0124 2450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2405.0124 So after all this confirmation, I was like, okay, God, 2407.7520 2451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2407.7520 (pause 0.52) 2408.2706 2452 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2408.2706 work on this hard heart cause I still don't wanna go. 2410.2570 2453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2410.2570 (pause 0.48) 2410.7326 2454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2410.7326 And what did it for me was my friend. 2412.3413 2455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2412.3413 (pause 1.01) 2413.3473 2456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2413.3473 You know, we took him in for four months, his wife and his daughter. 2415.7767 2457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2415.7767 (pause 0.15) 2415.9259 2458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2415.9259 We became their God- his G- 2417.0963 2459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2417.0963 (pause 0.17) 2417.2688 2460 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2417.2688 his daughter's Godfather and mother, 2418.7796 2461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2418.7796 (pause 0.85) 2419.6318 2462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2419.6318 and God just softened my heart for the city. 2421.3757 2463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2421.3757 (pause 1.11) 2422.4855 2464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2422.4855 And uh, 2423.2315 2465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2423.2315 (pause 0.33) 2423.5579 2466 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2423.5579 from there, 2424.2527 2467 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2424.2527 (pause 0.92) 2425.1713 2468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2425.1713 God began to move me out of the comfort of working in, 2427.9912 2469 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2427.9912 (pause 0.72) 2428.7140 2470 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2428.7140 you know, the mega church in Upper Marlboro, /RD-WORK-3/, an awesome beautiful church. 2431.9500 2471 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2431.9500 (pause 0.99) 2432.9374 2472 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2432.9374 Um, 2433.3944 2473 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2433.3944 (pause 0.55) 2433.9399 2474 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2433.9399 but God had called me 2435.1663 2475 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2435.1663 (pause 0.46) 2435.6232 2476 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2435.6232 out of comfort 2436.3460 2477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2436.3460 (pause 1.30) 2437.6504 2478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2437.6504 into this place. 2438.5410 2479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2438.5410 (pause 0.90) 2439.4363 2480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2439.4363 And by God's Grace, we moved to Northeast 2441.6512 2481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2441.6512 (pause 0.33) 2441.9776 2482 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2441.9776 because it's where I w- 2442.8915 2483 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2442.8915 (pause 0.11) 2443.0034 2484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2443.0034 was- was when I was a kid. 2444.3405 2485 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2444.3405 (pause 0.07) 2444.4058 2486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2444.4058 It's where 2444.8768 2487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2444.8768 (pause 0.35) 2445.2218 2488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2445.2218 God told me specifically he wanted us to go in Ward Seven. We didn't wanna go in the nice part of Northeast. 2449.3718 2489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2449.3718 (pause 0.57) 2449.9395 2490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2449.9395 Like when I say nice part I mean down New York Avenue where 2452.1964 2491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2452.1964 (pause 0.76) 2452.9518 2492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2452.9518 you see bigger houses. We wanted to be right in the middle of 2455.5164 2493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2455.5164 (pause 0.35) 2455.8696 2494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2455.8696 the challenges in- in the community. 2457.6508 2495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2457.6508 (pause 0.76) 2458.4109 2496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2458.4109 And by God's Grace we do have some amazing people in our neighborhood. 2461.1993 2497 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2461.1993 (pause 0.24) 2461.4359 2498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2461.4359 You know, our neighborhood's not all 2462.5504 2499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2462.5504 (pause 0.84) 2463.3897 2500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2463.3897 what the media portrays it to be, 2464.7373 2501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2464.7373 (pause 0.34) 2465.0730 2502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2465.0730 but we do have some elements unfortunately of people who 2467.6423 2503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2467.6423 (pause 1.10) 2468.7462 2504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2468.7462 do things they shouldn't do. 2469.8513 2505 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2469.8513 (pause 1.33) 2471.1849 2506 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2471.1849 Um, 2471.7072 2507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2471.7072 (pause 0.73) 2472.4392 2508 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2472.4392 and so God wants us right there 2474.3405 2509 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2474.3405 (pause 0.57) 2474.9094 2510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2474.9094 to be a light in the midst of this- the darkness that surround us. 2477.9216 2511 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2477.9216 (pause 0.43) 2478.3506 2512 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2478.3506 So that's why we moved here into Ward Seven, right here, 2480.6716 2513 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2480.6716 (pause 0.38) 2481.0540 2514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2481.0540 right off East Capitol Street. 2482.0378 2515 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2482.0378 (pause 0.63) 2482.6673 2516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2482.6673 And um, 2483.4320 2517 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2483.4320 (pause 0.15) 2483.5813 2518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2483.5813 that's where we are. 2484.3180 2519 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2484.3180 (pause 0.83) 2485.1433 2520 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2485.1433 And so um- 2486.0246 2521 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2486.0246 (pause 0.16) 2486.1820 2522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2486.1820 so yeah, that's- that's- 2486.9048 2523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2486.9048 (pause 0.30) 2487.2078 2524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2487.2078 that's why we 2488.0145 2525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2488.0145 (pause 0.13) 2488.1451 2526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2488.1451 came to this neighborhood. 2489.7118 2527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2489.7118 (pause 0.57) 2490.2854 2528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2490.2854 Um, not to be the dun dun da dun! Saviors of- hey, we're here to save Ward Seven! No, Jesus is here to save Ward Seven. 2495.9916 2529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2495.9916 (pause 0.44) 2496.4346 2530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2496.4346 We're just vessels that he's using 2497.9640 2531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2497.9640 (pause 0.51) 2498.4711 2532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2498.4711 to- to be light in a dark place, to be salt where there's no flavor. 2501.5020 2533 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2501.5020 (pause 0.48) 2501.9823 2534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2501.9823 Or there's a lack of flavor. 2503.1060 2535 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2503.1060 (pause 0.20) 2503.3100 2536 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2503.3100 There are many churches here in the neighborhood, and we been connecting with them. 2505.9073 2537 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2505.9073 (pause 0.73) 2506.6394 2538 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2506.6394 But um, we know God called us here to come along side them and help. 2509.5630 2539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2509.5630 (pause 0.62) 2510.1867 2540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2510.1867 So we don't think we're the big dog coming in. We don't think we're the super super church. 2514.2807 2541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2514.2807 (pause 0.35) 2514.6304 2542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2514.6304 We don't think we know it all. 2515.7122 2543 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2515.7122 (pause 0.10) 2515.8136 2544 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2515.8136 We just wanna come along what God's already been doing and- and 2518.0612 2545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2518.0612 (pause 0.13) 2518.1871 2546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2518.1871 play our part. 2518.7000 2547 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2518.7000 (pause 1.10) 2519.7958 2548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2519.7958 You asked me another question. 2520.6351 2549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2520.6351 (pause 0.14) 2520.7750 2550 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2520.7750 What was the [s-] 2521.1713 2551 DCB_int_01 2521.0268 [How'd] you end up 2521.5583 2552 DCB_int_01 2521.6784 inside /RD-WORK-5/? 2522.8721 2553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2522.8908 Oh yes! 2523.5669 2554 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2523.5669 (pause 1.00) 2524.5647 2555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2524.5647 So I didn't know where we would be worshipping 2526.3366 2556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2526.3366 (pause 0.34) 2526.6770 2557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2526.6770 with /RD-WORK-5/, so we were just- 2528.0806 2558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2528.0806 (pause 0.69) 2528.7742 2559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2528.7742 I went to- knocked on doors. I asked principals. 2531.5579 2560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2531.5579 (pause 0.31) 2531.8704 2561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2531.8704 I said, hey, 2532.4019 2562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2532.4019 (pause 1.07) 2533.4686 2563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2533.4686 would you mind a church being in here? 2534.5690 2564 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2534.5690 (pause 0.28) 2534.8441 2565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2534.8441 Yes I would. 2535.5156 2566 DCB_int_01 2535.6368 [] 2537.0124 2567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2536.1124 [Mm-hm, so you know.] 2537.0357 2568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2537.8983 [Lot of-] 2538.3040 2569 DCB_int_01 2537.9123 [] 2538.3180 2570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2538.6024 A lot of people didn't want a church in their building for different reasons. They got to be responsible for them if something breaks, 2544.5651 2571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2544.5651 (pause 0.07) 2544.6351 2572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2544.6351 blase 2544.9382 2573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2544.9382 (pause 0.12) 2545.0547 2574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2545.0547 blah. 2545.6842 2575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2545.6842 (pause 0.51) 2546.1913 2576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2546.1913 The- so it's- in DCPS, it's all about whatever the principal says, 2548.9891 2577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2548.9891 (pause 1.26) 2550.2481 2578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2550.2481 and principals just weren't responding to emails, phone calls, in person 2554.0798 2579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2554.0798 (pause 0.63) 2554.7140 2580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2554.7140 visitations. 2555.7165 2581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2555.7165 (pause 0.55) 2556.2714 2582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2556.2714 Um, and so, I just began praying. I would drive around Ward Seven DC and just pray. I'd say, God, will you just show me? 2561.7818 2583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2561.7818 (pause 0.19) 2561.9729 2584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2561.9729 Just show me God, where. 2562.9475 2585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2562.9475 (pause 0.54) 2563.4872 2586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2563.4872 So I got a phone call from a friend 2564.7369 2587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2564.7369 (pause 1.22) 2565.9586 2588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2565.9586 who used to uh, pastor a church that was in /RD-WORK-5/. 2568.6677 2589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2568.6677 (pause 0.86) 2569.5257 2590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2569.5257 Um, and they stopped having services in uh, /RD-WORK-6/ 2573.0777 2591 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2573.0777 (pause 0.59) 2573.6652 2592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2573.6652 /RD-WORK-4/ back in two thousand twelve. 2575.5572 2593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2575.5572 (pause 0.12) 2575.6737 2594 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2575.6737 And he said, hey /RD-NAME-2/, I know you're looking for a building, man. 2577.6974 2595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2577.6974 (pause 0.49) 2578.1871 2596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2578.1871 Well have you thought about /RD-WORK-5/ 2579.5020 2597 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2579.5020 (pause 0.40) 2579.8983 2598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2579.8983 /RD-WORK-6/ 2580.8309 2599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2580.8309 (pause 0.14) 2580.9661 2600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2580.9661 on Benning Road? 2581.4966 2601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2581.4966 (pause 0.68) 2582.1773 2602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2582.1773 I said, you know, 2582.7229 2603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2582.7229 (pause 1.29) 2584.0145 2604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2584.0145 I had thought about it, but 2585.2269 2605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2585.2269 (pause 1.08) 2586.3040 2606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2586.3040 man, 2586.7330 2607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2586.7330 (pause 0.33) 2587.0629 2608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2587.0629 I guess I didn't think enough about it. 2588.0001 2609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2588.0001 (pause 0.98) 2588.9840 2610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2588.9840 So 2589.3058 2611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2589.3058 (pause 0.19) 2589.4969 2612 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2589.4969 came in, 2590.0425 2613 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2590.0425 (pause 0.67) 2590.7140 2614 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2590.7140 met with the interim director at the time, 2592.8169 2615 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2592.8169 (pause 0.85) 2593.6691 2616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2593.6691 and uh, did a- did a walk through, 2595.2032 2617 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2595.2032 (pause 0.08) 2595.2824 2618 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2595.2824 prayed about it, 2595.9446 2619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2595.9446 (pause 1.02) 2596.9658 2620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2596.9658 and felt the peace of God to- hey, say, 2599.4045 2621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2599.4045 (pause 0.72) 2600.1214 2622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2600.1214 we're gonna be here. 2600.7882 2623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2600.7882 (pause 0.68) 2601.4643 2624 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2601.4643 And we've been here since June twenty fourteen, 2604.0149 2625 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2604.0149 (pause 0.87) 2604.8869 2626 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2604.8869 and uh, I'm so glad we're here. 2606.4012 2627 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2606.4012 (pause 0.50) 2606.9001 2628 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2606.9001 Cause it's a great place, and um- 2608.5088 2629 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2608.5088 (pause 0.35) 2608.8538 2630 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2608.8538 you know, great staff, great people. 2610.1175 2631 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2610.1175 (pause 0.88) 2610.9988 2632 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2610.9988 And everybody knows what it- where it is. 2613.1985 2633 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2613.1985 (pause 0.97) 2614.1684 2634 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2614.1684 You know, it- 2614.5181 2635 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2614.5181 (pause 0.86) 2615.3761 2636 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2615.3761 some of the buildings we were looking for, 2616.8123 2637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2616.8123 (pause 1.17) 2617.9862 2638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2617.9862 kind of in the cut- 2619.2358 2639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2619.2358 (pause 0.23) 2619.4690 2640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2619.4690 or we were looking at rather- were like, in the cut, kind of off to the side. 2622.9102 2641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2622.9102 (pause 0.53) 2623.4371 2642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2623.4371 The school was up in the- in the neighborhood 2625.2172 2643 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2625.2172 (pause 0.37) 2625.5902 2644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2625.5902 but 2625.7581 2645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2625.7581 (pause 0.55) 2626.3083 2646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2626.3083 /RD-WORK-10/- whenever I tell people we worship in the /RD-WORK-2/- oh, /RD-WORK-4/? Oh yeah, man! 2631.3104 2647 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2631.3104 (pause 0.43) 2631.7441 2648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2631.7441 I know where that is! 2632.4202 2649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2632.4202 (pause 0.27) 2632.6906 2650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2632.6906 That's by the police station. 2633.5067 2651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2633.5067 (pause 0.56) 2634.0662 2652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2634.0662 You know, my cousin 2634.6957 2653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2634.6957 (pause 0.13) 2634.8263 2654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2634.8263 got locked up. 2635.4977 2655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2635.4977 (pause 0.33) 2635.8276 2656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2635.8276 Just joking. 2636.2286 2657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2636.2286 (pause 0.46) 2636.6903 2658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2636.6903 But 2636.8954 2659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2636.8954 (pause 0.23) 2637.1286 2660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2637.1286 people- people say things- 2638.6533 2661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2638.6533 (pause 0.36) 2639.0124 2662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2639.0124 people know where this is. It's a landmark. It's a staple in the community. 2642.0106 2663 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2642.0106 (pause 0.40) 2642.4151 2664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2642.4151 And it's so many families here that we get to partner with, so we get to do 2645.1476 2665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2645.1476 (pause 0.51) 2645.6605 2666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2645.6605 some different um, 2646.7190 2667 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2646.7190 (pause 0.41) 2647.1247 2668 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2647.1247 things for the kids here. 2648.1913 2669 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2648.1913 (pause 0.29) 2648.4804 2670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2648.4804 Um, 2648.7882 2671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2648.7882 (pause 0.51) 2649.3011 2672 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2649.3011 during the holidays, you know, 2650.6347 2673 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2650.6347 (pause 0.09) 2650.7233 2674 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2650.7233 back to school stuff we try to partner with the /RD-WORK-2/. 2652.7889 2675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2652.7889 (pause 0.77) 2653.5583 2676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2653.5583 So it's- it's so great to- 2654.6250 2677 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2654.6250 (pause 0.11) 2654.7323 2678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2654.7323 w- when you come to a community to try to help families, 2657.1523 2679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2657.1523 (pause 0.27) 2657.4263 2680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2657.4263 and you got so many h- families that already come to the building that you worship in, it's like, 2660.7556 2681 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2660.7556 (pause 0.80) 2661.5530 2682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2661.5530 thank you God. 2662.1871 2683 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2662.1871 (pause 0.48) 2662.6627 2684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2662.6627 People already here to help. 2664.1490 2685 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2664.1490 (pause 0.53) 2664.6806 2686 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2664.6806 Don't have to go knocking on doors. They already coming in. So 2666.8768 2687 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2666.8768 (pause 0.43) 2667.3105 2688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2667.3105 that's how we got to /RD-WORK-5/, and 2668.8865 2689 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2668.8865 (pause 0.43) 2669.3190 2690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2669.3190 that's how /RD-WORK-5/ 2670.3775 2691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2670.3775 (pause 1.10) 2671.4780 2692 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2671.4780 got started and- 2672.2753 2693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2672.2753 (pause 0.49) 2672.7649 2694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2672.7649 You know, wanted- we wanted to come along side churches that are already doing work here 2675.8180 2695 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2675.8180 (pause 0.47) 2676.2889 2696 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2676.2889 and just do our part. 2677.1143 2697 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2677.1143 (pause 0.41) 2677.5246 2698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2677.5246 And we wanted to live where we lead. 2679.2732 2699 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2679.2732 (pause 0.26) 2679.5296 2700 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2679.5296 We didn't wanna live somewhere 2680.6114 2701 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2680.6114 (pause 0.95) 2681.5615 2702 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2681.5615 else. We wanted to be right in the midst 2683.5013 2703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2683.5013 (pause 0.07) 2683.5666 2704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2683.5666 of 2684.0282 2705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2684.0282 (pause 0.48) 2684.5131 2706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2684.5131 where 2685.1007 2707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2685.1007 (pause 0.58) 2685.6835 2708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2685.6835 um, the community is, where the people are that we wanna serve and help, so. 2688.8671 2709 DCB_int_01 2690.3406 So 2690.6810 2710 DCB_int_01 2690.6810 (pause 0.22) 2690.9048 2711 DCB_int_01 2690.9048 I'm gonna 2691.2488 2712 DCB_int_01 2691.2488 (pause 0.34) 2691.5903 2713 DCB_int_01 2691.5903 kind of shift gears a little bit. 2693.2258 2714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2693.2398 Okay. 2693.4543 2715 DCB_int_01 2694.0185 Um, 2694.6060 2716 DCB_int_01 2694.6060 (pause 0.70) 2695.3054 2717 DCB_int_01 2695.3054 when you think about DC, 2696.7276 2718 DCB_int_01 2696.7276 (pause 0.21) 2696.9375 2719 DCB_int_01 2696.9375 after much 2697.8421 2720 DCB_int_01 2697.8421 (pause 1.24) 2699.0812 2721 DCB_int_01 2699.0812 anguish and 2700.0278 2722 DCB_int_01 2700.0278 (pause 0.53) 2700.5594 2723 DCB_int_01 2700.5594 heartache and 2701.3987 2724 DCB_int_01 2701.3987 (pause 0.18) 2701.5759 2725 DCB_int_01 2701.5759 finally you broke down, and God was like, move, and you were like, [okay] God, 2704.3596 2726 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2703.7022 [Yeah.] 2703.8747 2727 DCB_int_01 2704.4995 I'm [moving.] 2705.1010 2728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2704.6487 [Yeah.] 2704.8353 2729 DCB_int_01 2706.3402 Have you- 2706.8718 2730 DCB_int_01 2706.8718 (pause 0.28) 2707.1469 2731 DCB_int_01 2707.1469 so let's talk about your experience in DC. Have you been a tourist in your town? 2711.0601 2732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2711.3797 [] 2712.1444 2733 DCB_int_01 2711.9206 [You know] people come from all over the [world and all over the] country to come see the monuments and [do all this touristy] stuff 2717.3482 2734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2713.6179 [Yeah.] 2714.2893 2735 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2714.2893 (pause 1.85) 2716.1405 2736 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2716.1405 [Yeah, yeah.] 2716.8399 2737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2717.3843 [] 2717.6950 2738 DCB_int_01 2717.6175 [and] you're down the street. 2718.4661 2739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2718.7319 I know. That's- that's the- that's the 2720.5784 2740 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2720.5784 (pause 0.14) 2720.7230 2741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2720.7230 common thing with so many of my friends. 2722.4669 2742 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2722.4669 (pause 0.36) 2722.8306 2743 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2722.8306 We say that. /You know/, I haven't been to this monument, I haven't been to that. 2725.6085 2744 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2725.6085 (pause 0.29) 2725.8976 2745 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2725.8976 I would ride past it, but to actually 2727.4364 2746 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2727.4364 (pause 0.75) 2728.1871 2747 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2728.1871 catch the Metro and go do a day 2730.2749 2748 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2730.2749 (pause 0.11) 2730.3822 2749 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2730.3822 in DC? 2731.0630 2750 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2731.0630 (pause 1.20) 2732.2613 2751 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2732.2613 No. 2732.5971 2752 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2732.5971 (pause 0.46) 2733.0587 2753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2733.0587 It's sad, isn't it? 2733.9540 2754 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2733.9540 (pause 0.52) 2734.4715 2755 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2734.4715 I have not been a tourist in my own city. 2736.0511 2756 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2736.0511 (pause 0.77) 2736.8205 2757 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2736.8205 Um, 2737.3241 2758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2737.3241 (pause 0.46) 2737.7857 2759 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2737.7857 I haven't, 2738.2194 2760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2738.2194 (pause 0.30) 2738.5225 2761 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2738.5225 and it's- it's sad. 2739.4271 2762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2739.4271 (pause 0.17) 2739.5949 2763 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2739.5949 I think because 2740.3736 2764 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2740.3736 (pause 0.13) 2740.5042 2765 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2740.5042 it's so close, 2741.2409 2766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2741.2409 (pause 0.60) 2741.8366 2767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2741.8366 the awe factor's not there. 2743.2588 2768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2743.2588 (pause 0.48) 2743.7344 2769 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2743.7344 I have been to some of the museums and things like that like the Holocaust Museum. I been to the 2747.9345 2770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2747.9345 (pause 0.44) 2748.3775 2771 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2748.3775 Air and Space, the Smithsonian, things like that. 2750.5971 2772 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2750.5971 (pause 0.49) 2751.0867 2773 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2751.0867 But 2751.3898 2774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2751.3898 (pause 1.00) 2752.3876 2775 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2752.3876 like, I haven't made it to some of the ones I really wanna get to. Like, I haven't been to the Martin Luther King one yet. 2756.1354 2776 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2756.1354 (pause 0.21) 2756.3499 2777 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2756.3499 You know? 2756.7416 2778 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2756.7416 (pause 0.65) 2757.3898 2779 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2757.3898 Um, 2757.9586 2780 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2757.9586 (pause 0.25) 2758.2058 2781 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2758.2058 I haven't like, 2758.6907 2782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2758.6907 (pause 0.20) 2758.8947 2783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2758.8947 been at the White House. 2760.0371 2784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2760.0371 (pause 0.32) 2760.3542 2785 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2760.3542 I've drove- 2760.6713 2786 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2760.6713 (pause 0.15) 2760.8205 2787 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2760.8205 driven- you know, driven past it so many times, but- 2762.6903 2788 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2762.6903 (pause 0.56) 2763.2545 2789 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2763.2545 like, this- 2763.7674 2790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2763.7674 (pause 0.48) 2764.2524 2791 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2764.2524 well I've driven past the Martin Luther King statue. Like, yo, that's what's up. But the monument- but like, 2767.9676 2792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2767.9676 (pause 1.29) 2769.2592 2793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2769.2592 the tourist thing is not 2770.6114 2794 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2770.6114 (pause 0.68) 2771.2957 2795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2771.2957 there 2771.8599 2796 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2771.8599 (pause 0.93) 2772.7925 2797 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2772.7925 for me. 2773.1935 2798 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2773.1935 (pause 0.74) 2773.9349 2799 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2773.9349 But w- I probably should do that. 2775.0633 2800 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2775.0633 (pause 0.48) 2775.5390 2801 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2775.5390 It's getting kind of 2775.9866 2802 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2775.9866 (pause 0.14) 2776.1265 2803 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2776.1265 cold now, but I probably should do it. 2777.6081 2804 DCB_int_01 2777.6734 Go at night. It's so much better at night. [I pro-] 2780.1914 2805 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2779.7111 [Oh yeah?] 2780.1028 2806 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2780.4385 Oh cause everything's lit up. 2781.2079 2807 DCB_int_01 2781.5203 It's lit up, but there's just this kind of 2783.5847 2808 DCB_int_01 2783.5847 (pause 1.06) 2784.6480 2809 DCB_int_01 2784.6480 awe 2785.3754 2810 DCB_int_01 2785.3754 (pause 0.44) 2785.8137 2811 DCB_int_01 2785.8137 and this 2786.8628 2812 DCB_int_01 2786.8628 (pause 0.20) 2787.0633 2813 DCB_int_01 2787.0633 like, reverence of like, knowing you're in greatness 2789.5102 2814 DCB_int_01 2789.5102 (pause 0.13) 2789.6408 2815 DCB_int_01 2789.6408 [but] 2789.8320 2816 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2789.7201 [Yeah], yeah [yeah.] 2790.4894 2817 DCB_int_01 2790.2563 [thinking] about the struggle- It's just- 2791.7158 2818 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2791.7624 Mm-hm. 2792.1961 2819 DCB_int_01 2792.4292 The reflective 2793.4037 2820 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2793.4597 Yeah. 2793.7488 2821 DCB_int_01 2793.8187 moment, [it was just-] 2795.3155 2822 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2794.5788 [Uh-huh.] 2794.9658 2823 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2795.7807 [] 2796.5127 2824 DCB_int_01 2795.7947 [I can't- And I went] the same day. I went in the daytime and at night [on the very] same day. 2799.5017 2825 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2798.5038 [Oh, wow.] 2799.0773 2826 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2799.6415 It was [different.] 2800.2058 2827 DCB_int_01 2799.8794 [The- I don't know] how that happened. 2800.9472 2828 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2801.2398 2801.6361 2829 DCB_int_01 2801.8133 And I felt totally different when I went back that night 2804.0748 2830 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2804.1401 Yeah yeah. 2804.6297 2831 DCB_int_01 2804.9514 than I did in the day. 2805.9773 2832 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2806.1172 Wow. 2806.4109 2833 DCB_int_01 2806.9647 Um, 2807.3237 2834 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2807.3284 [Yeah.] 2807.6035 2835 DCB_int_01 2807.5009 [so] most definitely take some time, [even] if you're not- well, maybe now it's cold. But you know how 2811.8327 2836 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2809.3474 [Mm.] 2809.5386 2837 DCB_int_01 2812.2571 you have community group? That could be a 2814.3084 2838 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2814.2516 Oh [yeah.] 2815.0163 2839 DCB_int_01 2814.6060 [great] 2815.0303 2840 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2815.5246 [Outing.] 2815.8743 2841 DCB_int_01 2815.5246 [like] 2815.8417 2842 DCB_int_01 2816.4478 reflective [time] 2817.7385 2843 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2817.4364 [Yeah.] 2817.7954 2844 DCB_int_01 2818.4016 um, [just] to change it up, 2819.7527 2845 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2818.7047 [Mm.] 2818.8726 2846 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2820.0092 Yeah, [that'd be good.] 2820.7412 2847 DCB_int_01 2820.1957 [but it's getting] a little- 2821.2168 2848 DCB_int_01 2821.4034 It's like fifty- It's [getting a little brisk] 2822.8431 2849 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2822.0841 [] 2824.0612 2850 DCB_int_01 2823.0027 [being out there. I don't know.] 2823.9819 2851 DCB_int_01 2824.1125 We might have to wait til [spring to do that one.] 2825.6688 2852 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2824.9740 [/I should/ wait, right?] 2825.7014 2853 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2826.2703 [] 2827.6691 2854 DCB_int_01 2826.3309 [Um,] 2826.9977 2855 DCB_int_01 2827.7857 so what about- 2828.6996 2856 DCB_int_01 2828.6996 (pause 0.12) 2828.8209 2857 DCB_int_01 2828.8209 what [about] 2829.4550 2858 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2829.1007 [] 2829.4597 2859 DCB_int_01 2829.6089 um- 2829.9306 2860 DCB_int_01 2829.9306 (pause 0.15) 2830.0845 2861 DCB_int_01 2830.0845 I know y- okay. 2830.7700 2862 DCB_int_01 2830.7700 (pause 0.34) 2831.1139 2863 DCB_int_01 2831.1139 This is what I think is really interesting, 2832.8345 2864 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2833.0397 [Mm-hm.] 2833.2355 2865 DCB_int_01 2833.1003 [and this] is what I was telling /RD-NAME-2/ 2834.4572 2866 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2834.7742 Mm-hm. 2835.0494 2867 DCB_int_01 2835.3151 is um, 2836.7653 2868 DCB_int_01 2836.7653 (pause 1.33) 2838.0977 2869 DCB_int_01 2838.0977 2838.1537 2870 DCB_int_01 2838.1537 (pause 0.09) 2838.2470 2871 DCB_int_01 2838.2470 I love the fact that you 2839.3194 2872 DCB_int_01 2839.3194 (pause 0.19) 2839.5106 2873 DCB_int_01 2839.5106 didn't come in and say, we need to build this big building. 2841.6695 2874 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2841.8794 [Oh yeah.] 2842.3596 2875 DCB_int_01 2841.8887 [But we gonna] just meet the people where they are, and [we're gonna] take 'em where 2844.9790 2876 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2843.9905 [Yeah.] 2844.2470 2877 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2845.2961 [Mm-hm.] 2845.5992 2878 DCB_int_01 2845.3940 [God] sees fit. 2846.2846 2879 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2846.4572 Mm-hm. 2846.7509 2880 DCB_int_01 2847.0214 And you go out and do street ministry- can you think of some- 2849.5289 2881 DCB_int_01 2849.5289 (pause 0.15) 2849.6781 2882 DCB_int_01 2849.6781 some times- some- [some] stories- some 2852.1448 2883 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2850.6293 [Mm-hm.] 2850.9277 2884 DCB_int_01 2852.4478 interesting moments that you've had kind of being out in the community? 2855.3761 2885 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2855.5895 Yeah. 2855.7667 2886 DCB_int_01 2855.8599 Good, bad, [otherwise.] 2857.2308 2887 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2856.9417 [Yeah yeah.] 2857.2728 2888 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2858.3219 Um, 2858.8442 2889 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2858.8442 (pause 0.62) 2859.4644 2890 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2859.4644 yeah, so being in the community, doing ministry out- 2861.9299 2891 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2861.9299 (pause 0.41) 2862.3356 2892 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2862.3356 we do a lot of outreach, 2863.4920 2893 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2863.4920 (pause 0.44) 2863.9303 2894 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2863.9303 um, 2864.3872 2895 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2864.3872 (pause 0.46) 2864.8489 2896 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2864.8489 w- and basically 2865.9120 2897 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2865.9120 (pause 0.54) 2866.4529 2898 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2866.4529 we'll um, give away groceries, 2868.4241 2899 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2868.4241 (pause 0.54) 2868.9650 2900 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2868.9650 uh, give away lunches, 2870.4059 2901 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2870.4059 (pause 0.15) 2870.5598 2902 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2870.5598 uh, 2870.8628 2903 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2870.8628 (pause 0.63) 2871.4970 2904 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2871.4970 answer biblical questions from um, a- a 2873.4496 2905 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2873.4496 (pause 0.14) 2873.5895 2906 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2873.5895 PA system outside. 2874.8764 2907 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2874.8764 (pause 0.79) 2875.6645 2908 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2875.6645 Um, 2876.1494 2909 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2876.1494 (pause 0.95) 2877.0960 2910 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2877.0960 and- and so one of the instances that comes to mind- 2879.1803 2911 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2879.1803 (pause 0.42) 2879.6035 2912 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2879.6035 there was a lady- We were on Minnesota Avenue in front of the Unity Health Care Center, 2882.9701 2913 DCB_int_01 2883.1566 Mm, mm-hm. 2883.5576 2914 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2883.9680 and uh, I was on the back of a- a Uhaul truck that we rented 2887.5759 2915 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2887.5759 (pause 0.78) 2888.3593 2916 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2888.3593 to uh, 2888.9654 2917 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2888.9654 (pause 0.51) 2889.4783 2918 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2889.4783 2889.5763 2919 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2889.5763 (pause 0.18) 2889.7535 2920 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2889.7535 haul the gas generator that was powering the sound system outside. So we turned the back of a pickup into a stage. 2894.7183 2921 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2894.7183 (pause 1.03) 2895.7488 2922 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2895.7488 We were facing um, 2896.9658 2923 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2896.9658 (pause 0.22) 2897.1885 2924 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2897.1885 a kind of hot spot area 2898.6386 2925 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2898.6386 (pause 0.47) 2899.1096 2926 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2899.1096 where, you know, a lot of people hang out. 2900.5831 2927 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2900.5831 (pause 0.35) 2900.9328 2928 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2900.9328 It's been prone to have some criminal activity happening. 2902.9238 2929 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2902.9238 (pause 0.72) 2903.6454 2930 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2903.6454 And so we intentionally pointed these speakers right 2906.2940 2931 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2906.2940 (pause 0.34) 2906.6344 2932 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2906.6344 toward the liquor store, the bus stop, the McDonalds. And we were like, hey, 2909.8553 2933 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2909.8553 (pause 0.87) 2910.7272 2934 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2910.7272 we giving away some gift cards 2912.3668 2935 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2912.3668 (pause 0.34) 2912.7090 2936 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2912.7090 if you- if uh- if I can answer your question 2914.8726 2937 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2914.8726 (pause 0.13) 2914.9985 2938 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2914.9985 about the Bible. 2915.7294 2939 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2915.7294 (pause 0.58) 2916.3122 2940 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2916.3122 So we did like a sweepstakes where we um- 2918.0655 2941 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2918.0655 (pause 0.29) 2918.3593 2942 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2918.3593 you had to write down a question 2919.4737 2943 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2919.4737 (pause 0.28) 2919.7535 2944 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2919.7535 about- 2919.9540 2945 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2919.9540 (pause 0.12) 2920.0705 2946 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2920.0705 from the B- the- 2920.7187 2947 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2920.7187 (pause 0.22) 2920.9378 2948 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2920.9378 about the Bible that you wanted me to answer, 2922.2796 2949 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2922.2796 (pause 0.76) 2923.0443 2950 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2923.0443 and if it was 2923.6691 2951 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2923.6691 (pause 0.35) 2924.0142 2952 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2924.0142 p- picked- I would randomly select, and you'd get a gift card. 2926.2664 2953 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2926.2664 (pause 0.10) 2926.3643 2954 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2926.3643 And we gave away thirty five gift cards 2927.9625 2955 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2927.9625 (pause 0.54) 2928.5034 2956 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2928.5034 to help people, 2929.1376 2957 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2929.1376 (pause 0.25) 2929.3894 2958 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2929.3894 in addition to about three hundred lunches that day. 2931.1333 2959 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2931.1333 (pause 0.74) 2931.8700 2960 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2931.8700 And um, 2932.6114 2961 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2932.6114 (pause 0.38) 2932.9880 2962 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2932.9880 one lady in particular, 2934.1957 2963 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2934.1957 (pause 1.03) 2935.2262 2964 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2935.2262 she was just heckling me. 2936.2427 2965 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2936.2427 (pause 0.26) 2936.4991 2966 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2936.4991 She was heckling me like, 2937.3571 2967 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2937.3571 (pause 0.69) 2938.0472 2968 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2938.0472 oh, 2938.4016 2969 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2938.4016 (pause 0.17) 2938.5741 2970 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2938.5741 oh he's scared to answer my question, 2940.3216 2971 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2940.3216 (pause 0.17) 2940.4894 2972 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2940.4894 my /blankety/ blank question. 2941.5992 2973 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2941.5992 (pause 0.43) 2942.0282 2974 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2942.0282 Oh he /blankety/ blank out of his mind. 2943.7814 2975 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2943.7814 (pause 0.77) 2944.5508 2976 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2944.5508 And so she was just kind of 2945.6221 2977 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2945.6221 (pause 0.15) 2945.7713 2978 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2945.7713 like heckling, heckling. I could tell she was 2947.5153 2979 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2947.5153 (pause 0.16) 2947.6785 2980 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2947.6785 you know, high on some type of drug. 2949.0913 2981 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2949.0913 (pause 0.76) 2949.8514 2982 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2949.8514 And um, 2950.6161 2983 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2950.6161 (pause 0.16) 2950.7746 2984 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2950.7746 so 2951.0637 2985 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2951.0637 (pause 0.60) 2951.6641 2986 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2951.6641 I talked to her 2952.4568 2987 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2952.4568 (pause 0.55) 2953.0117 2988 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2953.0117 and basically found out that 2954.9048 2989 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2954.9048 (pause 0.52) 2955.4271 2990 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2955.4271 her- 2955.6555 2991 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2955.6555 (pause 0.36) 2956.0192 2992 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2956.0192 her brother was killed. 2957.3797 2993 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2957.3797 (pause 0.89) 2958.2703 2994 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2958.2703 Um, 2958.7785 2995 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2958.7785 (pause 0.37) 2959.1469 2996 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2959.1469 and her question was you know, how do you forgive somebody 2961.6509 2997 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2961.6509 (pause 0.63) 2962.2804 2998 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2962.2804 who had your brother killed? 2963.7760 2999 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2963.7760 (pause 0.81) 2964.5873 3000 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2964.5873 Um, cause I wanna go kill the girl- 2966.2147 3001 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2966.2147 (pause 0.28) 2966.4898 3002 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2966.4898 that- the- 2966.8768 3003 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2966.8768 (pause 0.13) 2967.0074 3004 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2967.0074 my brother's ex girlfriend who had him killed. 2969.0031 3005 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2969.0031 (pause 1.44) 2970.4381 3006 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2970.4381 And so I talked to her about God's forgiveness and how God has forgiven her of so much, 2973.9120 3007 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2973.9120 (pause 0.16) 2974.0752 3008 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2974.0752 and that God's wrath has not come down upon her 2976.2236 3009 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2976.2236 (pause 0.38) 2976.6013 3010 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2976.6013 to the point of bringing her to death 2977.8090 3011 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2977.8090 (pause 0.46) 2978.2660 3012 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2978.2660 and that he's given her time to repent. 2979.7348 3013 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2979.7348 (pause 0.64) 2980.3771 3014 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2980.3771 And so as 2981.2071 3015 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2981.2071 (pause 0.28) 2981.4869 3016 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2981.4869 you have been forgiven, you should also forgive. 2983.3381 3017 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2983.3381 (pause 0.95) 2984.2846 3018 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2984.2846 And um, 2985.0680 3019 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2985.0680 (pause 0.84) 2985.9073 3020 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2985.9073 from there, one of our- one of our leaders prayed with her, 2988.4708 3021 DCB_int_01 2988.5687 Mm. 2988.7925 3022 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2989.0443 and she just started crying. 2990.5458 3023 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2990.5458 (pause 0.80) 2991.3478 3024 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2991.3478 And just- just to see 2992.5508 3025 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2992.5508 (pause 0.43) 2992.9833 3026 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2992.9833 the love of Christ in- 2994.2843 3027 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2994.2843 (pause 0.39) 2994.6713 3028 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2994.6713 w- when the- 2995.1982 3029 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2995.1982 (pause 0.13) 2995.3241 3030 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2995.3241 when the Bible's articulated and you see 2997.4690 3031 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2997.4690 (pause 0.43) 2997.8980 3032 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 2997.8980 God's word seep into a hard heart 3000.1304 3033 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3000.1304 (pause 0.88) 3001.0117 3034 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3001.0117 and turn that person, 3002.0702 3035 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3002.0702 (pause 0.70) 3002.7696 3036 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3002.7696 change the way they think. You know the- the word repent means to change the way you think. 3005.9112 3037 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3005.9112 (pause 0.67) 3006.5780 3038 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3006.5780 Um, w- another time we- we were on Division Avenue 3009.1286 3039 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3009.1286 (pause 0.63) 3009.7628 3040 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3009.7628 at Marvin Gaye Park. 3010.7793 3041 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3010.7793 (pause 1.37) 3012.1490 3042 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3012.1490 We partner with McLain Bible Church, and w- uh- we do a big 3014.9001 3043 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3014.9001 (pause 0.10) 3014.9981 3044 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3014.9981 carnival- back to school carnival and concert 3017.0206 3045 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3017.0206 (pause 0.82) 3017.8366 3046 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3017.8366 every year. We've done it for three years now, so 3019.7764 3047 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3019.7764 (pause 0.65) 3020.4245 3048 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3020.4245 got like, 3021.0027 3049 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3021.0027 (pause 0.37) 3021.3758 3050 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3021.3758 uh, moon bounce and rock climbing walls and 3024.0914 3051 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3024.0914 (pause 0.09) 3024.1781 3052 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3024.1781 pony rides and 3025.1391 3053 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3025.1391 (pause 0.26) 3025.3954 3054 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3025.3954 just turned Marvin Gaye Park into a carnival 3027.1460 3055 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3027.1460 (pause 0.27) 3027.4180 3056 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3027.4180 and a concert. 3028.0843 3057 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3028.0843 (pause 0.67) 3028.7585 3058 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3028.7585 And um, 3029.5944 3059 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3029.5944 (pause 0.85) 3030.4489 3060 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3030.4489 in the middle of the concert 3031.4267 3061 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3031.4267 (pause 0.29) 3031.7145 3062 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3031.7145 I was sharing the- 3032.3059 3063 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3032.3059 (pause 0.11) 3032.4163 3064 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3032.4163 the message of Jesus Christ, the love of God, 3034.1353 3065 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3034.1353 (pause 0.95) 3035.0806 3066 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3035.0806 and um, 3035.7784 3067 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3035.7784 (pause 0.75) 3036.5276 3068 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3036.5276 it was a drunk guy 3037.4541 3069 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3037.4541 (pause 0.52) 3037.9785 3070 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3037.9785 uh, who was like- 3039.1494 3071 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3039.1494 (pause 0.59) 3039.7438 3072 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3039.7438 I said, you know the bad news is we all deserve to go to Hell. 3041.6875 3073 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3041.6875 (pause 0.49) 3042.1804 3074 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3042.1804 And he was like, no, no no! Not the babies, not the babies. 3045.5543 3075 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3045.5543 (pause 0.42) 3045.9722 3076 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3045.9722 Not the babies. 3046.7016 3077 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3046.7016 (pause 0.74) 3047.4428 3078 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3047.4428 He was shaking his cane at me, and some people were looking at me upset because 3050.6512 3079 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3050.6512 (pause 0.65) 3051.3058 3080 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3051.3058 you know the- the Bible teaches us that we've all sinned and we all deserve God's judgement, 3054.6719 3081 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3054.6719 (pause 0.78) 3055.4486 3082 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3055.4486 even the little ones. We all deserve God's judgement. 3057.4238 3083 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3057.4238 (pause 0.37) 3057.7895 3084 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3057.7895 That's bad news. But the good news is- so when I shared the good news, 3060.7268 3085 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3060.7268 (pause 0.48) 3061.2118 3086 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3061.2118 that- that he gives us a way 3062.5523 3087 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3062.5523 (pause 0.33) 3062.8795 3088 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3062.8795 to escape the judgement we deserve by putting our faith in Jesus Christ, 3066.0248 3089 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3066.0248 (pause 0.58) 3066.6043 3090 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3066.6043 um, 3067.1800 3091 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3067.1800 (pause 1.02) 3068.1972 3092 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3068.1972 you know that guy will raise his hand for salvation. 3069.9901 3093 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3069.9901 (pause 0.26) 3070.2543 3094 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3070.2543 So 3070.5618 3095 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3070.5618 (pause 0.55) 3071.1138 3096 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3071.1138 to see people 3072.2572 3097 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3072.2572 (pause 0.32) 3072.5765 3098 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3072.5765 who are very hostile toward 3074.2393 3099 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3074.2393 (pause 0.33) 3074.5705 3100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3074.5705 God, 3075.0318 3101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3075.0318 (pause 0.89) 3075.9268 3102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3075.9268 in a moment, 3076.5024 3103 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3076.5024 (pause 0.24) 3076.7429 3104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3076.7429 3076.8730 3105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3076.8730 (pause 1.08) 3077.9494 3106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3077.9494 God does something in their conscience 3079.6753 3107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3079.6753 (pause 0.67) 3080.3456 3108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3080.3456 where they are- they are awakened. 3081.4416 3109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3081.4416 (pause 0.22) 3081.6663 3110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3081.6663 You know the Bible says, awake O sleeper, 3083.2710 3111 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3083.2710 (pause 0.50) 3083.7668 3112 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3083.7668 rise from the dead 3084.6145 3113 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3084.6145 (pause 0.31) 3084.9260 3114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3084.9260 that I may shine upon you. You see somebody's conscience get awakened, like 3087.8317 3115 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3087.8317 (pause 0.51) 3088.3403 3116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3088.3403 3088.4507 3117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3088.4507 (pause 0.24) 3088.6873 3118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3088.6873 I was dead in my sin, 3089.7193 3119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3089.7193 (pause 0.16) 3089.8770 3120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3089.8770 I was lost in my sin, and now 3091.3216 3121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3091.3216 (pause 0.98) 3092.2978 3122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3092.2978 I'm made alive in Christ. I can see him. 3094.0710 3123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3094.0710 (pause 0.17) 3094.2366 3124 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3094.2366 Man. 3094.5599 3125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3094.5599 (pause 0.36) 3094.9226 3126 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3094.9226 I w- Uh, that song, Amazing Grace, 3096.6061 3127 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3096.6061 (pause 0.27) 3096.8742 3128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3096.8742 how sweet the sound. 3097.7968 3129 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3097.7968 (pause 0.32) 3098.1122 3130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3098.1122 Save the rest like me. 3098.9914 3131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3098.9914 (pause 0.33) 3099.3177 3132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3099.3177 I once was lost, but now am found, was blind 3101.5374 3133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3101.5374 (pause 0.63) 3102.1722 3134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3102.1722 but now I see. Like, that song is amazing because that what's happens 3105.3614 3135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3105.3614 (pause 0.28) 3105.6447 3136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3105.6447 when a person is converted, when a person goes from being a sinner, 3108.0340 3137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3108.0340 (pause 0.49) 3108.5268 3138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3108.5268 on their way to hell, 3109.2168 3139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3109.2168 (pause 0.41) 3109.6298 3140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3109.6298 to a person who is a saint 3110.7377 3141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3110.7377 (pause 0.25) 3110.9860 3142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3110.9860 on their way to heaven 3111.6800 3143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3111.6800 (pause 0.42) 3112.0979 3144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3112.0979 because of their faith in Jesus Christ. 3113.4226 3145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3113.4226 (pause 0.28) 3113.7025 3146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3113.7025 So, 3114.0613 3147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3114.0613 (pause 1.02) 3115.0854 3148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3115.0854 those are some of my golden moments, 3116.6619 3149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3116.6619 (pause 0.58) 3117.2468 3150 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3117.2468 seeing people's 3118.4604 3151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3118.4604 (pause 0.58) 3119.0399 3152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3119.0399 eyes open 3119.9655 3153 DCB_int_01 3120.3046 [Mm.] 3120.4583 3154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3120.3124 [to] understand who God is 3121.8146 3155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3122.2167 and- 3122.3153 3156 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3122.3153 (pause 0.13) 3122.4454 3157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3122.4454 and to have an opportunity to talk about the misconceptions. 3125.4096 3158 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3125.4096 (pause 0.38) 3125.7918 3159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3125.7918 One last thing I'll share is a woman 3127.0653 3160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3127.0653 (pause 0.62) 3127.6803 3161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3127.6803 uh, spoke to me recently and 3129.2377 3162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3129.2377 (pause 0.44) 3129.6743 3163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3129.6743 thought that she would go to hell because she use marijuana, 3132.0596 3164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3132.0596 (pause 0.73) 3132.7930 3165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3132.7930 you know, for medicinal purposes, and I was explaining to her that you know- 3135.7529 3166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3135.7529 (pause 0.66) 3136.4114 3167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3136.4114 you know, 3136.9318 3168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3136.9318 (pause 0.37) 3137.3024 3169 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3137.3024 you didn't earn your way into heaven. 3138.5522 3170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3138.5522 (pause 0.15) 3138.7020 3171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3138.7020 You know, salvation's a free gift, and so she thought she was going to hell because she had hepatitis C, 3142.9177 3172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3142.9177 (pause 0.74) 3143.6594 3173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3143.6594 and her doctor prescribed her to take- 3145.1148 3174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3145.1148 (pause 0.36) 3145.4736 3175 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3145.4736 drink marijuana 3146.3922 3176 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3146.3922 (pause 0.54) 3146.9363 3177 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3146.9363 uh, in doses. 3148.0203 3178 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3148.0203 (pause 0.47) 3148.4897 3179 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3148.4897 And uh, I said, you know the use of medication 3151.0988 3180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3151.0988 (pause 0.45) 3151.5483 3181 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3151.5483 to help your body- 3152.4551 3182 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3152.4551 (pause 0.37) 3152.8296 3183 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3152.8296 if you're not abusing that medication, you're not in sin. 3154.9429 3184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3154.9429 (pause 0.46) 3155.4072 3185 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3155.4072 You know, we take percocets and all that kind of stuff, but if you're abusing percocets, you're damaging your temple. And the Bi- The Bible says your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. 3161.7499 3186 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3161.7499 (pause 0.41) 3162.1600 3187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3162.1600 So just 3162.4474 3188 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3162.4474 (pause 0.36) 3162.8066 3189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3162.8066 breaking down misconceptions that people have like, if I do this thing, I'm going to hell. 3166.4802 3190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3166.4802 (pause 0.40) 3166.8784 3191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3166.8784 If I do that thing, I'm going to hell. 3168.1873 3192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3168.1873 (pause 0.33) 3168.5146 3193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3168.5146 You know, versus 3169.2361 3194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3169.2361 (pause 0.34) 3169.5752 3195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3169.5752 no you've done enough to 3170.6072 3196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3170.6072 (pause 0.19) 3170.7964 3197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3170.7964 earn your way into hell already. 3171.8964 3198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3171.8964 (pause 0.39) 3172.2907 3199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3172.2907 But when you confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart God raised him from the dead, 3175.9130 3200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3175.9130 (pause 0.52) 3176.4334 3201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3176.4334 you are saved 3177.3600 3202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3177.3600 (pause 0.42) 3177.7779 3203 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3177.7779 by faith in Jesus Christ. It's- it's- it's a undeserved gift 3180.8680 3204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3180.8680 (pause 0.09) 3180.9626 3205 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3180.9626 God gives you. You didn't earn your way into heaven anyway. 3183.1902 3206 DCB_int_01 3183.7816 Mm. 3183.9196 3207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3184.1561 And then when you are saved, 3185.3340 3208 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3185.3340 (pause 0.13) 3185.4641 3209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3185.4641 God leads you on that path of righteousness, and it's not that you're not going to make mistakes or fall into sin, 3189.6315 3210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3189.6315 (pause 0.44) 3190.0692 3211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3190.0692 but God, his job is to help you 3191.4560 3212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3191.4560 (pause 0.30) 3191.7596 3213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3191.7596 stay up and stay focused 3192.9542 3214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3192.9542 (pause 0.32) 3193.2775 3215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3193.2775 as you keep walking. 3194.0109 3216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3194.0109 (pause 0.13) 3194.1370 3217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3194.1370 So explaining things like that to people 3195.8511 3218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3195.8511 (pause 0.40) 3196.2558 3219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3196.2558 who think that 3196.8092 3220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3196.8092 (pause 0.62) 3197.4242 3221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3197.4242 they can like lose their salvation or 3199.0407 3222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3199.0407 (pause 0.42) 3199.4586 3223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3199.4586 fall off the salvation ship 3200.8810 3224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3200.8810 (pause 0.26) 3201.1372 3225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3201.1372 3201.3502 3226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3201.3502 (pause 0.32) 3201.6735 3227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3201.6735 because, 3202.0874 3228 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3202.0874 (pause 0.41) 3202.5014 3229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3202.5014 oh, 3202.7104 3230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3202.7104 (pause 0.17) 3202.8760 3231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3202.8760 I did this. 3203.4477 3232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3203.4477 (pause 0.26) 3203.7079 3233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3203.7079 Well I guess I deserve to go to hell now. 3205.1430 3234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3205.1430 (pause 0.14) 3205.2840 3235 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3205.2840 Well you've always deserved to go to hell. 3206.3721 3236 DCB_int_01 3206.4746 3207.0030 3237 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3207.1212 But 3207.4327 3238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3207.4327 (pause 0.67) 3208.0990 3239 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3208.0990 that's the bad news. 3208.8915 3240 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3208.8915 (pause 0.07) 3208.9664 3241 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3208.9664 The [good news] is 3209.8456 3242 DCB_int_01 3209.1478 [Right.] 3209.3488 3243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3210.2271 Jesus died once and for all, so you don't have to. 3212.2654 3244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3212.2654 (pause 0.40) 3212.6676 3245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3212.6676 So when we explain that to people, 3214.1146 3246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3214.1146 (pause 1.13) 3215.2422 3247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3215.2422 and to see those misconceptions break down, those are my golden moments. 3218.0089 3248 DCB_int_01 3218.0838 Mm-hm. 3218.4360 3249 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3218.6595 Those are my golden moments cause people are awakened to 3220.7491 3250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3220.7491 (pause 0.32) 3221.0675 3251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3221.0675 3221.1818 3252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3221.1818 (pause 0.15) 3221.3277 3253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3221.3277 truth. 3221.7574 3254 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3221.7574 (pause 0.32) 3222.0768 3255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3222.0768 It's like, ah, I get it now. 3223.3700 3256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3223.3700 (pause 0.19) 3223.5553 3257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3223.5553 That makes sense. 3224.2965 3258 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3224.2965 (pause 0.56) 3224.8603 3259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3224.8603 You know? 3225.1521 3260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3225.1521 (pause 0.13) 3225.2782 3261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3225.2782 So. 3225.4990 3262 DCB_int_01 3226.3930 Okay, I know we have um, 3227.8006 3263 DCB_int_01 3227.8006 (pause 0.64) 3228.4393 3264 DCB_int_01 3228.4393 just a little more time so 3229.6181 3265 DCB_int_01 3229.6181 (pause 0.21) 3229.8232 3266 DCB_int_01 3229.8232 couple other thing. 3230.7962 3267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3230.9468 Mm-hm. 3231.1715 3268 DCB_int_01 3231.5688 There are two things that are very unique to DC. Well, there's a couple things, [but two] things. 3235.4562 3269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3234.7426 [Mm.] 3234.9122 3270 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3235.5864 Mm-hm. 3235.8347 3271 DCB_int_01 3236.3897 Go go music. 3237.1427 3272 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3237.4621 Yeah. 3237.8485 3273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3237.8485 (pause 0.28) 3238.1284 3274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3238.1284 Yeah yeah yeah. 3238.7159 3275 DCB_int_01 3238.9524 What does that mean to you? Do you like it? Do you not like it? 3241.3328 3276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3241.3407 Yeah. 3241.7468 3277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3241.7468 (pause 0.73) 3242.4722 3278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3242.4722 You know, I- I- 3243.0558 3279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3243.0558 (pause 0.32) 3243.3712 3280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3243.3712 go go music had to grow on me because 3245.4187 3281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3245.4187 (pause 0.29) 3245.7092 3282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3245.7092 growing up as a kid, 3246.7254 3283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3246.7254 (pause 0.76) 3247.4863 3284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3247.4863 uh, I remember being in- in /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary School 3249.7849 3285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3249.7849 (pause 0.24) 3250.0294 3286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3250.0294 and hearing um, 3250.8958 3287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3250.8958 (pause 0.87) 3251.7671 3288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3251.7671 Doing da butt. (singing) 3252.7606 3289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3252.7606 (pause 0.11) 3252.8750 3290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3252.8750 3253.7818 3291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3253.7818 (pause 0.10) 3253.8843 3292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3253.8843 3254.4166 3293 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3254.4166 (pause 0.13) 3254.5506 3294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3254.5506 3255.5284 3295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3255.5284 (pause 0.10) 3255.6270 3296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3255.6270 3256.0212 3297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3256.0212 (pause 0.52) 3256.5367 3298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3256.5367 You know, Spike Lee's um, School Days, and I was like, that's tight. 3259.5653 3299 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3259.5653 (pause 0.41) 3259.9708 3300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3259.9708 3261.4178 3301 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3261.4178 (pause 0.24) 3261.6612 3302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3261.6612 3261.9372 3303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3261.9372 (pause 0.12) 3262.0594 3304 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3262.0594 3262.2763 3305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3262.2763 (pause 0.54) 3262.8125 3306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3262.8125 So you know, 3263.4473 3307 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3263.4473 (pause 0.12) 3263.5695 3308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3263.5695 that was hot. 3264.0860 3309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3264.0860 (pause 0.67) 3264.7523 3310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3264.7523 But um, you know, EU, that's, you know, shout out to them. 3266.7502 3311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3266.7502 (pause 0.47) 3267.2194 3312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3267.2194 But um, 3267.8108 3313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3267.8108 (pause 1.23) 3269.0370 3314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3269.0370 um, 3269.4628 3315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3269.4628 (pause 0.09) 3269.5495 3316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3269.5495 it was just good 3270.4287 3317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3270.4287 (pause 0.36) 3270.7875 3318 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3270.7875 to 3271.3356 3319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3271.3356 (pause 0.41) 3271.7446 3320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3271.7446 to- to really 3272.5332 3321 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3272.5332 (pause 0.97) 3273.4991 3322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3273.4991 experience a unique sound 3275.8844 3323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3275.8844 (pause 0.22) 3276.1092 3324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3276.1092 from our city. 3277.0820 3325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3277.0820 (pause 0.93) 3278.0085 3326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3278.0085 Um, 3278.3161 3327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3278.3161 (pause 0.17) 3278.4856 3328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3278.4856 and then as I 3279.0652 3329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3279.0652 (pause 0.40) 3279.4634 3330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3279.4634 got older, go go music 3280.9734 3331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3280.9734 (pause 0.42) 3281.3953 3332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3281.3953 started not being so original. 3283.0581 3333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3283.0581 (pause 0.36) 3283.4208 3334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3283.4208 It was just 3283.9373 3335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3283.9373 (pause 0.78) 3284.7180 3336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3284.7180 taking 3285.2778 3337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3285.2778 (pause 0.78) 3286.0545 3338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3286.0545 hip hop or rap music 3287.1536 3339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3287.1536 (pause 0.12) 3287.2758 3340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3287.2758 and just 3287.6504 3341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3287.6504 (pause 0.44) 3288.0919 3342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3288.0919 repeating chants, repeating chants, repeating chants, repeating chants. 3291.3367 3343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3291.3367 (pause 0.20) 3291.5378 3344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3291.5378 Repeat this rap hook. Repeat this rap hook. 3293.2874 3345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3293.2874 (pause 0.13) 3293.4136 3346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3293.4136 I'm'a repeat this rap hook. 3294.6437 3347 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3294.6437 (pause 0.64) 3295.2863 3348 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3295.2863 And it just started losing its 3296.9501 3349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3296.9501 (pause 0.66) 3297.6115 3350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3297.6115 um, 3298.1477 3351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3298.1477 (pause 0.48) 3298.6248 3352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3298.6248 creativi- 3299.1531 3353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3299.1531 (pause 0.14) 3299.2911 3354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3299.2911 creative edge and a- and original edge to me. 3301.3097 3355 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3301.3097 (pause 0.44) 3301.7543 3356 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3301.7543 I really like you know, Chuck Brown. He- he has some original music. You know, 3304.9202 3357 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3304.9202 (pause 0.59) 3305.5077 3358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3305.5077 um, but some of the newer bands just weren't really doing it for me. 3308.2666 3359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3308.2666 (pause 0.58) 3308.8501 3360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3308.8501 And then um, 3309.9186 3361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3309.9186 (pause 0.76) 3310.6834 3362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3310.6834 then I got exposed to gospel go go music. 3312.7205 3363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3312.7205 (pause 0.57) 3313.2886 3364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3313.2886 So, they call it three g. 3314.3452 3365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3314.3452 (pause 0.67) 3315.0115 3366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3315.0115 And gospel go go is so cool to me 3317.0183 3367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3317.0183 (pause 0.46) 3317.4826 3368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3317.4826 um, because 3318.4288 3369 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3318.4288 (pause 0.35) 3318.7797 3370 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3318.7797 you have people, 3319.5604 3371 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3319.5604 (pause 0.30) 3319.8600 3372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3319.8600 so- so you have 3320.7313 3373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3320.7313 (pause 0.57) 3321.2991 3374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3321.2991 um, 3321.8028 3375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3321.8028 (pause 0.28) 3322.0827 3376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3322.0827 American culture, 3323.0289 3377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3323.0289 (pause 1.16) 3324.1841 3378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3324.1841 then you have, you know, hip hop culture which is a subculture. 3326.4670 3379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3326.4670 (pause 0.65) 3327.1175 3380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3327.1175 Um, and then you have go go culture, which is also a subculture of American culture. 3330.6767 3381 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3330.6767 (pause 0.23) 3330.9054 3382 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3330.9054 Then you got gospel go go culture. 3332.4549 3383 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3332.4549 (pause 0.67) 3333.1281 3384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3333.1281 And so gospel go go culture are people who are saved. They love Jesus Christ, 3336.8579 3385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3336.8579 (pause 0.41) 3337.2640 3386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3337.2640 but their music, 3338.2447 3387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3338.2447 (pause 0.62) 3338.8598 3388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3338.8598 um, 3339.2304 3389 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3339.2304 (pause 0.14) 3339.3723 3390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3339.3723 it- it- 3339.6444 3391 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3339.6444 (pause 0.12) 3339.7626 3392 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3339.7626 it's a genre 3340.8153 3393 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3340.8153 (pause 0.54) 3341.3594 3394 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3341.3594 style 3341.9942 3395 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3341.9942 (pause 0.57) 3342.5649 3396 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3342.5649 of go go 3343.3022 3397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3343.3022 (pause 0.15) 3343.4481 3398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3343.4481 but it's- it's gospel music. 3344.9542 3399 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3344.9542 (pause 0.51) 3345.4628 3400 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3345.4628 And just 3345.8827 3401 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3345.8827 (pause 0.10) 3345.9832 3402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3345.9832 the worship of God- worshipping God to the congos and the timbales. 3349.2546 3403 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3349.2546 (pause 0.93) 3350.1890 3404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3350.1890 So I say that to say 3351.1392 3405 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3351.1392 (pause 0.48) 3351.6242 3406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3351.6242 go go 3352.4679 3407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3352.4679 (pause 0.08) 3352.5497 3408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3352.5497 is a unique flavor, 3353.7286 3409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3353.7286 (pause 1.25) 3354.9823 3410 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3354.9823 and it goes through its moments. 3356.7447 3411 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3356.7447 (pause 0.46) 3357.2021 3412 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3357.2021 Like right now 3357.8487 3413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3357.8487 (pause 0.24) 3358.0921 3414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3358.0921 go go is kind of in a dry spell right now. 3359.6731 3415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3359.6731 (pause 0.13) 3359.7993 3416 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3359.7993 Not a lot of people like it. 3360.6233 3417 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3360.6233 (pause 0.76) 3361.3803 3418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3361.3803 But it's kind of like when I used to eat chicken. I'm a pescatarian now, but when I would eat chicken, I would eat Chick-fil-A all the time. 3366.6034 3419 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3366.6034 (pause 0.50) 3367.1001 3420 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3367.1001 And I would eat Chick fil- chicken Chick-fil-A all the time 3369.3386 3421 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3369.3386 (pause 0.35) 3369.6934 3422 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3369.6934 to the point I got tired of it. 3370.7659 3423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3370.7659 (pause 0.73) 3371.4913 3424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3371.4913 But then 3371.9053 3425 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3371.9053 (pause 0.55) 3372.4533 3426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3372.4533 after two weeks of no Chick-fil-A, 3373.7771 3427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3373.7771 (pause 0.47) 3374.2502 3428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3374.2502 I want that chicken again. I'm'a go 3375.4251 3429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3375.4251 (pause 0.12) 3375.5473 3430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3375.5473 back to that chicken. 3376.3398 3431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3376.3398 (pause 0.41) 3376.7459 3432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3376.7459 So as much as people 3377.6488 3433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3377.6488 (pause 1.11) 3378.7636 3434 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3378.7636 like go go then don't like it. Some like it then don't like it. 3381.4130 3435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3381.4130 (pause 0.39) 3381.8073 3436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3381.8073 This is the one place you can go to get go go, 3383.5490 3437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3383.5490 (pause 0.39) 3383.9393 3438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3383.9393 so when you wanna like it again, it'll be here waiting on you. 3386.2813 3439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3386.2813 (pause 0.91) 3387.1881 3440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3387.1881 But yeah, um, 3387.9293 3441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3387.9293 (pause 0.88) 3388.8115 3442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3388.8115 go go in of itself, it can be very misogynistic. It can be very explicit. 3392.5925 3443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3392.5925 (pause 0.48) 3393.0765 3444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3393.0765 Uh, a lot of profanity, 3394.2553 3445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3394.2553 (pause 0.15) 3394.4051 3446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3394.4051 just like, you know, hip hop music, 3395.5406 3447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3395.5406 (pause 0.53) 3396.0689 3448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3396.0689 uh, which it- 3396.5066 3449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3396.5066 (pause 0.11) 3396.6130 3450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3396.6130 which a lot of the 3397.2557 3451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3397.2557 (pause 0.13) 3397.3858 3452 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3397.3858 go go bands get their 3398.4424 3453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3398.4424 (pause 0.36) 3398.8002 3454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3398.8002 hooks from. 3399.3167 3455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3399.3167 (pause 0.17) 3399.4863 3456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3399.4863 Not a lot of original stuff, 3400.4640 3457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3400.4640 (pause 0.51) 3400.9766 3458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3400.9766 just 3401.2447 3459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3401.2447 (pause 0.78) 3402.0293 3460 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3402.0293 take something from a rapper 3403.1490 3461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3403.1490 (pause 0.20) 3403.3452 3462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3403.3452 and repeat it repeat it, make a chant, repeat it, repeat it. Make your booty bounce! 3406.2903 3463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3406.2903 (pause 0.24) 3406.5269 3464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3406.5269 Repeat it, repeat it, repeat it. 3407.3548 3465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3407.3548 (pause 0.63) 3407.9896 3466 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3407.9896 Versus the gospel go go music, they w- they would take some Christian music 3411.0718 3467 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3411.0718 (pause 0.32) 3411.3912 3468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3411.3912 and do some things. And I've seen some gospel g- gospel go go bands do original music too. 3414.7060 3469 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3414.7060 (pause 0.51) 3415.2185 3470 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3415.2185 So 3415.4708 3471 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3415.4708 (pause 0.31) 3415.7823 3472 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3415.7823 I do like go go music 3416.9336 3473 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3416.9336 (pause 0.41) 3417.3476 3474 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3417.3476 um, but some times, I get tired of it when it's not original enough. 3420.5244 3475 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3420.5244 (pause 0.35) 3420.8792 3476 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3420.8792 Every song sounds the same. 3422.2315 3477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3422.2315 (pause 0.78) 3423.0161 3478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3423.0161 Gotta be creative if you wanna keep attention 3424.6040 3479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3424.6040 (pause 0.36) 3424.9628 3480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3424.9628 long time, that's what I say. 3425.8894 3481 DCB_int_01 3426.2048 Well now that you're a pescatarian, I don't know if this one is 3428.3102 3482 DCB_int_01 3428.3102 (pause 0.09) 3428.4048 3483 DCB_int_01 3428.4048 as [much relevant], 3429.7325 3484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3428.8099 [] 3429.7719 3485 DCB_int_01 3429.8665 but what about mumbo sauce? 3431.1479 3486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3431.5461 Yeah, I love- I love mumbo sauce. It's very sweet. I think it's like a mixture of- 3435.4902 3487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3435.4902 (pause 0.63) 3436.1226 3488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3436.1226 Uh, what is it? It's- 3437.1831 3489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3437.1831 (pause 0.11) 3437.2896 3490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3437.2896 dang (whispered), somebody told me before. 3438.3817 3491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3438.3817 (pause 0.64) 3439.0195 3492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3439.0195 Somebody made mumbo sauce 3440.3836 3493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3440.3836 (pause 0.25) 3440.6359 3494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3440.6359 for me one time at a church I was at, and I said, wow, you actually made it. 3444.0463 3495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3444.0463 (pause 0.44) 3444.4909 3496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3444.4909 It's like mustard and something- you don't think mustard's in it. Something's in it that I didn't think was in it. 3447.7988 3497 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3447.7988 (pause 0.45) 3448.2443 3498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3448.2443 It's very sweet. It's very 3449.2457 3499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3449.2457 (pause 0.40) 3449.6469 3500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3449.6469 very unique. 3450.2147 3501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3450.2147 (pause 0.57) 3450.7824 3502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3450.7824 And I think the Pope, 3451.6932 3503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3451.6932 (pause 0.28) 3451.9770 3504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3451.9770 uh, somebody tweeted that the Pope 3453.3925 3505 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3453.3925 (pause 0.08) 3453.4753 3506 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3453.4753 will be asking for some mumbo sauce while he's here in DC. 3455.8951 3507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3455.8951 (pause 0.41) 3456.3012 3508 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3456.3012 I thought that was funny. 3457.0384 3509 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3457.0384 (pause 0.74) 3457.7757 3510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3457.7757 But um, 3458.4144 3511 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3458.4144 (pause 0.91) 3459.3203 3512 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3459.3203 again, if it's the only place you can go to get it, 3461.0708 3513 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3461.0708 (pause 0.43) 3461.5045 3514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3461.5045 where will you go to get it? 3462.2457 3515 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3462.2457 (pause 0.56) 3462.8095 3516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3462.8095 So I do like mumbo sauce and, 3464.5049 3517 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3464.5049 (pause 0.41) 3464.9179 3518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3464.9179 uh, although I don't eat chicken anymore, I don't eat any land animals at all, 3468.1548 3519 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3468.1548 (pause 0.54) 3468.6910 3520 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3468.6910 uh, salmon is my chicken, 3469.8531 3521 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3469.8531 (pause 0.36) 3470.2119 3522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3470.2119 so 3470.5194 3523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3470.5194 (pause 0.16) 3470.6771 3524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3470.6771 I will whip up some mumbo sauce on some salmon in a heart beat. 3473.2478 3525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3473.2478 (pause 0.80) 3474.0432 3526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3474.0432 3474.1536 3527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3474.1536 (pause 0.26) 3474.4138 3528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3474.4138 And that will be my lean protein 3476.0855 3529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3476.0855 (pause 0.16) 3476.2432 3530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3476.2432 with some mumbo sauce. 3477.1816 3531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3477.1816 (pause 0.85) 3478.0332 3532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3478.0332 [] 3479.1253 3533 DCB_int_01 3478.2500 [Hm.] 3478.5339 3534 DCB_int_01 3479.4555 Alright. 3479.7906 3535 DCB_int_01 3479.7906 (pause 0.35) 3480.1455 3536 DCB_int_01 3480.1455 Last thing. 3480.9340 3537 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3480.9853 Mm-hm. 3481.2534 3538 DCB_int_01 3481.8881 What's your favorite book? 3482.9408 3539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3484.0053 Favorite book. 3485.4947 3540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3485.4947 (pause 0.70) 3486.1926 3541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3486.1926 3486.2517 3542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3486.2517 (pause 0.06) 3486.3148 3543 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3486.3148 Um, other than the Bible, 3487.7578 3544 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3487.7578 (pause 0.24) 3488.0022 3545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3488.0022 that's probably like 3488.4075 3546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3488.4075 (pause 0.14) 3488.5503 3547 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3488.5503 a given, right? 3489.2323 3548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3489.2323 (pause 0.57) 3489.8070 3549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3489.8070 Other than the Bible, 3490.7296 3550 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3490.7296 (pause 0.08) 3490.8084 3551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3490.8084 my favorite book 3491.7231 3552 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3491.7231 (pause 0.60) 3492.3264 3553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3492.3264 I would say is, um, 3494.1242 3554 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3494.1242 (pause 1.25) 3495.3731 3555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3495.3731 man there's so many books I read. 3496.7609 3556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3496.7609 (pause 0.87) 3497.6283 3557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3497.6283 It's kind of hard to say my favorite. (whispered) 3499.0121 3558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3499.0121 (pause 1.22) 3500.2295 3559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3500.2295 I think 3501.0890 3560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3501.0890 (pause 2.22) 3503.3087 3561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3503.3087 my favorite book 3504.4797 3562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3504.4797 (pause 0.33) 3504.8099 3563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3504.8099 would have to be 3506.1070 3564 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3506.1070 (pause 1.62) 3507.7274 3565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3507.7274 one of my leadership books. 3508.9773 3566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3508.9773 (pause 1.10) 3510.0802 3567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3510.0802 Um, I love leadership reading, 3511.5232 3568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3511.5232 (pause 0.84) 3512.3670 3569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3512.3670 and I'm kind of narrowing it down in my head while I'm 3513.9401 3570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3513.9401 (pause 0.16) 3514.0978 3571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3514.0978 kind of buying for time. 3514.9534 3572 DCB_int_01 3515.1259 3516.8015 3573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3516.8567 So my favorite book I guess- 3518.3549 3574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3518.3549 (pause 1.69) 3520.0493 3575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3520.0493 Mm, 3520.1952 3576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3520.1952 (pause 0.15) 3520.3450 3577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3520.3450 see I don't wanna break any categories like, 3521.5633 3578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3521.5633 (pause 0.61) 3522.1704 3579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3522.1704 story book 3522.9905 3580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3522.9905 (pause 0.35) 3523.3453 3581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3523.3453 /Uh mm/. 3523.9328 3582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3523.9328 (pause 1.43) 3525.3591 3583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3525.3591 Yeah. 3525.7455 3584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3525.7455 (pause 0.17) 3525.9110 3585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3525.9110 Uh, 3526.3369 3586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3526.3369 (pause 0.13) 3526.4630 3587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3526.4630 I think my favorite leadership book would have to be 3528.5290 3588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3528.5290 (pause 0.60) 3529.1283 3589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3529.1283 John Maxwell's, uh, 3530.7521 3590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3530.7521 (pause 0.09) 3530.8423 3591 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3530.8423 Twenty One Irrefutable Laws of Leadership. 3532.9596 3592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3532.9596 (pause 0.99) 3533.9531 3593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3533.9531 He goes through these laws of leadership, 3535.5253 3594 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3535.5253 (pause 0.11) 3535.6357 3595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3535.6357 and it's just so rich. 3536.8934 3596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3536.8934 (pause 0.64) 3537.5321 3597 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3537.5321 It's so rich. 3538.6478 3598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3538.6478 (pause 0.32) 3538.9672 3599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3538.9672 He talks about the McDonald's brothers 3540.4142 3600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3540.4142 (pause 0.99) 3541.4028 3601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3541.4028 and w- and what happened with them, 3543.1573 3602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3543.1573 (pause 0.37) 3543.5279 3603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3543.5279 how they sold their business to Ray Kroc, and Ray Kroc was a leader 3546.5431 3604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3546.5431 (pause 0.45) 3546.9965 3605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3546.9965 that took the McDonald's 3547.9979 3606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3547.9979 (pause 0.59) 3548.5893 3607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3548.5893 company where it is now. 3549.8115 3608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3549.8115 (pause 0.54) 3550.3477 3609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3550.3477 It's- 3550.6986 3610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3550.6986 (pause 0.17) 3550.8711 3611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3550.8711 you learn so much. And since I'm a entrepreneur 3552.9371 3612 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3552.9371 (pause 0.34) 3553.2762 3613 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3553.2762 for a multi media company, 3554.4590 3614 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3554.4590 (pause 0.72) 3555.1765 3615 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3555.1765 I just love reading rich material 3557.3379 3616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3557.3379 (pause 0.49) 3557.8250 3617 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3557.8250 about lead- expanding my leadership. 3559.2956 3618 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3559.2956 (pause 0.54) 3559.8318 3619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3559.8318 So John C. Maxwell gets it. 3561.2975 3620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3561.2975 (pause 0.55) 3561.8456 3621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3561.8456 Thank you John. 3562.5158 3622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3562.5158 (pause 0.79) 3563.3043 3623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3563.3043 Twenty One Irrefutable Laws of Leadership, 3564.9445 3624 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3564.9445 (pause 0.09) 3565.0312 3625 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3565.0312 that's probably my favorite 3566.1105 3626 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3566.1105 (pause 0.12) 3566.2288 3627 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3566.2288 book. 3566.5127 3628 DCB_int_01 3568.0070 Last question before I ask you to do one more favor for me. 3570.9892 3629 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3571.0182 Mm-hm. 3571.2626 3630 DCB_int_01 3572.3272 If you had to leave a piece of advice 3574.3773 3631 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3574.6066 Mm-hm. 3574.9050 3632 DCB_int_01 3575.3014 to 3576.2386 3633 DCB_int_01 3576.2386 (pause 1.17) 3577.4079 3634 DCB_int_01 3577.4079 people today, not even just youth. I would just say youth, but 3579.8839 3635 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3580.0890 [Mm-hm.] 3580.3082 3636 DCB_int_01 3580.0984 [to people] today, what would that piece of advice be and why? 3582.7143 3637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3583.3799 Mm. 3583.7669 3638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3583.7669 (pause 0.38) 3584.1493 3639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3584.1493 Piece of advice. 3585.1331 3640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3585.1331 (pause 2.51) 3587.6465 3641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3587.6465 Mm. 3587.9169 3642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3587.9169 (pause 0.53) 3588.4438 3643 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3588.4438 3588.5697 3644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3588.5697 (pause 0.43) 3588.9975 3645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3588.9975 Piece of advice I would leave to people would be 3590.9839 3646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3590.9839 (pause 8.31) 3599.2967 3647 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3599.2967 Proverbs chapter three 3600.3505 3648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3600.3505 (pause 0.21) 3600.5650 3649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3600.5650 verses five and six. 3601.6224 3650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3601.6224 (pause 2.91) 3604.5320 3651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3604.5320 So 3604.6719 3652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3604.6719 (pause 0.09) 3604.7605 3653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3604.7605 Proverbs chapter three verse five and six 3606.6490 3654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3606.6490 (pause 0.97) 3607.6177 3655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3607.6177 says, trust in the Lord 3608.7881 3656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3608.7881 (pause 0.63) 3609.4176 3657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3609.4176 with all your heart. 3610.1403 3658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3610.1403 (pause 1.77) 3611.9122 3659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3611.9122 Don't lean on your own understanding. 3613.4917 3660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3613.4917 (pause 1.20) 3614.6948 3661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3614.6948 In all your ways acknowledge him, 3616.0144 3662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3616.0144 (pause 0.70) 3616.7139 3663 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3616.7139 and he will make your path straight. 3617.8143 3664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3617.8143 (pause 1.38) 3619.1934 3665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3619.1934 I just think that's one of the richest pieces of advice 3621.4829 3666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3621.4829 (pause 0.60) 3622.0844 3667 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3622.0844 you could give anybody. 3622.9050 3668 DCB_int_01 3623.2268 Hm. 3623.4040 3669 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3624.1500 If you trust in God with all your heart, 3625.6270 3670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3625.6270 (pause 1.47) 3627.0958 3671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3627.0958 first of all, he's the creator of your life. 3628.9703 3672 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3628.9703 (pause 0.75) 3629.7164 3673 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3629.7164 Um, 3630.1687 3674 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3630.1687 (pause 0.23) 3630.3960 3675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3630.3960 when I was a teenager, you know, you've heard my story, when I was a teenager, I was seeking- 3633.7533 3676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3633.7533 (pause 0.38) 3634.1357 3677 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3634.1357 I was aimlessly seeking my significance 3636.2899 3678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3636.2899 (pause 0.36) 3636.6478 3679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3636.6478 in popularity, status, 3638.2099 3680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3638.2099 (pause 0.11) 3638.3218 3681 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3638.3218 clothes, 3638.9746 3682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3638.9746 (pause 0.82) 3639.7906 3683 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3639.7906 relationships, 3640.7465 3684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3640.7465 (pause 0.40) 3641.1475 3685 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3641.1475 tryna get money, 3642.1407 3686 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3642.1407 (pause 0.76) 3642.9054 3687 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3642.9054 tryna help my friends sell drugs. 3644.3265 3688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3644.3265 (pause 0.49) 3644.8161 3689 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3644.8161 I was trying to find 3646.4761 3690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3646.4761 (pause 0.41) 3646.8911 3691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3646.8911 a reason to keep living. 3648.1361 3692 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3648.1361 (pause 0.87) 3649.0022 3693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3649.0022 Even when I was suicidal in middle school, I was trying to find a reason for living. 3652.4994 3694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3652.4994 (pause 0.68) 3653.1802 3695 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3653.1802 God was that reason. 3654.2293 3696 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3654.2293 (pause 0.40) 3654.6257 3697 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3654.6257 The fact that there was this su- 3655.7716 3698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3655.7716 (pause 0.13) 3655.8975 3699 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3655.8975 there's a superior being that exists 3657.5715 3700 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3657.5715 (pause 0.29) 3657.8652 3701 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3657.8652 that I can't see with my eyes, but I know he's with me, 3660.2946 3702 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3660.2946 (pause 0.36) 3660.6583 3703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3660.6583 and he speaks to me in unique ways, through his word, 3662.7928 3704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3662.7928 (pause 0.48) 3663.2730 3705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3663.2730 through- through- through 3663.7766 3706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3663.7766 (pause 0.13) 3663.9025 3707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3663.9025 thoughts, 3664.3943 3708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3664.3943 (pause 0.31) 3664.6999 3709 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3664.6999 through different revelations he would give me. It's like, yo, 3666.8308 3710 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3666.8308 (pause 0.34) 3667.1747 3711 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3667.1747 if I trust in him with all of my heart- all of my- which is my soul, my- my everything, 3671.1111 3712 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3671.1111 (pause 0.89) 3672.0055 3713 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3672.0055 and I don't 3672.7076 3714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3672.7076 (pause 0.71) 3673.4219 3715 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3673.4219 just lean on my own understanding, but I put my trust in him before what I think is best, 3677.1988 3716 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3677.1988 (pause 1.02) 3678.2153 3717 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3678.2153 and in all my ways I acknowledge him in it, 3680.1446 3718 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3680.1446 (pause 0.63) 3680.7788 3719 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3680.7788 he'll make my path straight. And that's- that's true for me. 3682.7931 3720 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3682.7931 (pause 0.93) 3683.7257 3721 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3683.7257 I'm- I was a l- a kid with low self esteem from Forestville, 3686.6109 3722 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3686.6109 (pause 0.46) 3687.0725 3723 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3687.0725 and just to see what God has done with me 3688.9004 3724 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3688.9004 (pause 0.52) 3689.4226 3725 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3689.4226 and my life from a business standpoint, 3691.4917 3726 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3691.4917 (pause 0.29) 3691.7856 3727 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3691.7856 as a artist. You know, 3692.9933 3728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3692.9933 (pause 0.45) 3693.4409 3729 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3693.4409 I performed at the Stellar Awards this year, and 3695.5485 3730 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3695.5485 (pause 0.44) 3695.9868 3731 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3695.9868 you know, my music has been 3697.2085 3732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3697.2085 (pause 0.64) 3697.8462 3733 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3697.8462 on the radio, and, 3699.1844 3734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3699.1844 (pause 1.01) 3700.1963 3735 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3700.1963 you know, 3700.7139 3736 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3700.7139 (pause 0.41) 3701.1289 3737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3701.1289 I'm talking to MTV right now about putting one of my music videos on MTV. 3704.5176 3738 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3704.5176 (pause 0.42) 3704.9420 3739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3704.9420 Like, I didn't think any of that would happen. 3706.5227 3740 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3706.5227 (pause 0.38) 3706.9050 3741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3706.9050 You know? 3707.1988 3742 DCB_int_01 3707.2594 Mm-hm. 3707.5439 3743 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3707.6231 But 3707.8330 3744 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3707.8330 (pause 0.14) 3707.9775 3745 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3707.9775 I submitted my life to Jesus, 3709.8695 3746 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3709.8695 (pause 0.58) 3710.4524 3747 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3710.4524 and he has 3711.1891 3748 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3711.1891 (pause 0.22) 3711.4083 3749 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3711.4083 lined up my life. 3712.4388 3750 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3712.4388 (pause 0.12) 3712.5553 3751 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3712.5553 So that's from a business standpoint. 3713.9729 3752 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3713.9729 (pause 0.24) 3714.2153 3753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3714.2153 Financially 3715.0966 3754 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3715.0966 (pause 0.26) 3715.3519 3755 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3715.3519 all that kind of stuff. 3716.0514 3756 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3716.0514 (pause 0.51) 3716.5596 3757 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3716.5596 From- from the ministry standpoint, 3718.0051 3758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3718.0051 (pause 0.54) 3718.5460 3759 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3718.5460 God showed me my purpose in life. 3720.0521 3760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3720.0521 (pause 0.20) 3720.2480 3761 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3720.2480 Mines happens to be 3721.1841 3762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3721.1841 (pause 0.18) 3721.3612 3763 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3721.3612 a pastor, 3721.9767 3764 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3721.9767 (pause 0.34) 3722.3171 3765 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3722.3171 but not everybody's called to be a pastor, but if you trust in God with all your heart, you don't lean on your own understanding, 3725.9309 3766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3725.9309 (pause 0.21) 3726.1407 3767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3726.1407 you acknowledge him, he'll make your path straight. 3727.7623 3768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3727.7623 (pause 0.33) 3728.0933 3769 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3728.0933 He'll show you which way to go. 3729.1705 3770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3729.1705 (pause 0.53) 3729.6974 3771 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3729.6974 Cause a lot of dudes I talk to in the neighborhood, 3731.4879 3772 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3731.4879 (pause 1.05) 3732.5417 3773 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3732.5417 they following the block boys. They following you know, what people around the neighborhood tell 'em 3735.8559 3774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3735.8559 (pause 0.31) 3736.1683 3775 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3736.1683 [they should be] doing. 3736.8817 3776 DCB_int_01 3736.1730 [Mm-hm.] 3736.5860 3777 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3737.0030 They're following the bad patterns of their fathers and their uncles. 3739.7669 3778 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3739.7669 (pause 0.30) 3740.0653 3779 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3740.0653 My daddy locked up, and it's all I know. 3741.6694 3780 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3741.6694 (pause 0.46) 3742.1310 3781 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3742.1310 Well we got to break that cycle. 3743.3340 3782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3743.3340 (pause 0.34) 3743.6698 3783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3743.6698 You gotta trust in the Lord and not in what your daddy's doing, 3745.8275 3784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3745.8275 (pause 0.30) 3746.1306 3785 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3746.1306 if your daddy's not doing what's of the Lord. 3747.5994 3786 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3747.5994 (pause 0.46) 3748.0611 3787 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3748.0611 So I think Proverbs chapters three verse five and six would be what I would leave. 3751.0919 3788 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3751.0919 (pause 0.67) 3751.7623 3789 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3751.7623 If I could give it- 3752.2892 3790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3752.2892 (pause 0.14) 3752.4244 3791 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3752.4244 if I could give any advice 3753.5948 3792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3753.5948 (pause 0.93) 3754.5227 3793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3754.5227 that kind of sums up what- 3755.5392 3794 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3755.5392 (pause 0.63) 3756.1734 3795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_01 3756.1734 what you- what a person should do with their life. 3757.6597