Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 0.3628 Today's date is October the fourth 3.8304 2 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3.8304 (pause 0.77) 4.6045 3 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4.6045 two thousand seventeen. 5.6365 4 DCB_int_01 7.0635 And /RD-NAME-2/ when is your birthday? 9.1330 5 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 9.6769 Birthday is December the first. 11.3886 6 DCB_int_01 11.8590 What year? 12.2794 7 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 12.2728 Nineteen seventy-six. 13.6754 8 DCB_int_01 16.5110 16.6011 9 DCB_int_01 16.6011 (pause 0.16) 16.7613 10 DCB_int_01 16.7613 Where were you born? 17.4053 11 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 18.0125 I was born in Washington DC. 19.2971 12 DCB_int_01 19.8576 What neighborhood do you claim? 21.1430 13 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 21.7336 Um, 22.5211 14 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 22.5211 (pause 0.70) 23.2251 15 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 23.2251 born on Bruce Place, Southeast. 25.7709 16 DCB_int_01 31.0835 Do you claim that neighborhood now? 32.1609 17 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 33.0763 Um, no. 33.6902 18 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 33.6902 (pause 0.52) 34.2074 19 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 34.2074 Haven't been in that neighborhood in the last 36.1526 20 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 36.1526 (pause 0.63) 36.7799 21 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 36.7799 four or five years 37.7642 22 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 37.7642 (pause 0.37) 38.1346 23 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 38.1346 [since] they, um- It's not the /??/ they remodeled. 40.4743 24 DCB_int_01 38.1354 [So-] 38.3957 25 DCB_int_01 38.3957 (pause 2.01) 40.4084 26 DCB_int_01 40.4084 Mm. mm. 40.9309 27 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 40.6312 [But,] 41.0716 28 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 41.6121 I haven't been there in a while. 42.4895 29 DCB_int_01 42.9768 Wow okay. 43.7308 30 DCB_int_01 43.7308 (pause 0.24) 43.9752 31 DCB_int_01 43.9752 Where do you live now? 44.6499 32 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 45.0496 I live in, um, Oxen Hill, Maryland now. 47.3685 33 DCB_int_01 47.3719 Okay, 47.7823 34 DCB_int_01 47.7823 (pause 0.13) 47.9091 35 DCB_int_01 47.9091 Oxen Hill. 48.5764 36 DCB_int_01 48.5764 (pause 2.27) 50.8428 37 DCB_int_01 50.8428 How long did you live in DC's- 52.9442 38 DCB_int_01 52.9442 (pause 0.24) 53.1817 39 DCB_int_01 53.1817 the city, 53.6955 40 DCB_int_01 53.6955 (pause 0.19) 53.8824 41 DCB_int_01 53.8824 within the city? 54.4863 42 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 55.5573 Um, 56.2493 43 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 56.2493 (pause 0.57) 56.8227 44 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 56.8227 wow. 57.1798 45 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 57.1798 (pause 0.81) 57.9905 46 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 57.9905 I was born here and then left 60.0492 47 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 60.0492 (pause 3.37) 63.4166 48 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 63.4166 when I was twenty 65.5888 49 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 65.5888 (pause 1.31) 66.9000 50 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 66.9000 seven. 67.3454 51 DCB_int_01 68.2180 Mkay. 68.5725 52 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 68.5258 So I pretty much grew up 69.5768 53 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 70.7646 in DC. 71.2951 54 DCB_int_01 72.9501 So when you left where'd you go? 74.0754 55 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 74.2881 I went to Maryland. 74.7727 56 DCB_int_01 75.1330 Oh, s- 75.4967 57 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 75.5167 I went to Maryland. 75.9305 58 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 75.9305 (pause 0.26) 76.1941 59 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 76.1941 Yeah. 76.4276 60 DCB_int_01 76.8514 PG. 77.1917 61 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 77.4119 Yeah, PG. 77.8757 62 DCB_int_01 79.3738 Okay. 79.7042 63 DCB_int_01 79.7042 (pause 0.35) 80.0553 64 DCB_int_01 80.0553 Have you lived anywhere else outside of DC and PG? 82.2108 65 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 82.3442 No. 82.5495 66 DCB_int_01 83.1817 Okay. 83.4686 67 DCB_int_01 83.4686 (pause 0.94) 84.4062 68 DCB_int_01 84.4062 Where'd you go to school? 85.0735 69 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 85.3238 85.3905 70 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 85.3905 (pause 0.57) 85.9644 71 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 85.9644 Uh, high school I went to, um, 87.7637 72 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 87.7637 (pause 0.27) 88.0373 73 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 88.0373 /RD-SCHOOL-6/. 89.1933 74 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 89.1933 (pause 5.16) 94.3509 75 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 94.3509 College I went to /RD-SCHOOL-6/. 96.4863 76 DCB_int_01 104.7560 What do you do? 105.1964 77 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 106.3676 I am the director of safety and facilities 109.4239 78 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 109.4239 (pause 0.63) 110.0553 79 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 110.0553 for /RD-WORK-11/. 112.6060 80 DCB_int_01 115.1770 But you also have a little side gig, what's your little [side gig?] 118.8080 81 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 117.5735 [Yes, yes], um, for the past four years, 121.7075 82 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 122.5892 I've been catering 123.2732 83 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 123.2732 (pause 0.80) 124.0773 84 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 124.0773 on the side, for the last four years, yeah. 125.5174 85 DCB_int_01 126.6098 Do you- 127.4406 86 DCB_int_01 127.4406 (pause 0.34) 127.7776 87 DCB_int_01 127.7776 do you do that a lot? 128.8661 88 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 129.2899 129.6002 89 DCB_int_01 129.5968 Do you cater a lot? 130.2508 90 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 130.5277 Um, 131.0582 91 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 131.0582 (pause 0.85) 131.9124 92 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 131.9124 initially when I first started, 133.1469 93 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 133.1469 (pause 0.15) 133.3004 94 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 133.3004 it was a favor. 134.5483 95 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 134.5483 (pause 0.16) 134.7126 96 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 134.7126 That's how it started off. Because I always knew I can cook 136.9815 97 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 136.9815 (pause 0.53) 137.5120 98 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 137.5120 cause my mother's from the south, so. 139.2586 99 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 139.2586 (pause 0.86) 140.1187 100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 140.1187 Her southern cooking and my city 141.7637 101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 141.7637 (pause 0.91) 142.6712 102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 142.6712 met. But 143.2918 103 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 143.2918 (pause 0.52) 143.8156 104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 143.8156 how it happened was, a friend knew I could cook and wanted me to cook for her- her grandmother's repass. 148.5936 105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 148.5936 (pause 0.47) 149.0683 106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 149.0683 I was doing it as a favor. 150.1393 107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 150.1393 (pause 0.87) 151.0101 108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 151.0101 Um, but 151.6374 109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 151.6374 (pause 0.13) 151.7684 110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 151.7684 when I was packing up and leaving, 153.5017 111 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 153.5017 (pause 0.26) 153.7603 112 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 153.7603 her mom came to me 155.0049 113 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 155.0049 (pause 0.64) 155.6421 114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 155.6421 and then was like, um, 156.6198 115 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 156.6198 (pause 0.40) 157.0202 116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 157.0202 hold on I got something for you. 158.2213 117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 158.2213 (pause 0.59) 158.8127 118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 158.8127 She was handing me some money. I was like, no it was a favor for your daughter. She was like, no. 162.6731 119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 162.6731 (pause 0.66) 163.3338 120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 163.3338 Um, take this because you did a good job. And then 166.0147 121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 166.0147 (pause 0.50) 166.5110 122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 166.5110 a lot of her family members were aksing me, well you have any business cards? I was like, what, no. Cause I- 170.7227 123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 170.7227 (pause 0.38) 171.1063 124 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 171.1063 I don't do this r- I don't do this on a regular basis. 173.2017 125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 173.2017 (pause 0.84) 174.0425 126 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 174.0425 So, um, 174.9067 127 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 174.9067 (pause 0.99) 175.8977 128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 175.8977 after that, I got to thinking, I said, maybe I should. So, 178.0239 129 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 178.0239 (pause 1.15) 179.1784 130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 179.1784 I think she had another event like a birthday party and I came with business cards 182.8795 131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 182.8795 (pause 0.57) 183.4467 132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 183.4467 after I did the party and I passed them out. And I guess 185.8290 133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 185.8290 (pause 0.74) 186.5731 134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 186.5731 word got out through them, they passed on cards to other individuals. 189.3920 135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 189.3920 (pause 0.32) 189.7169 136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 189.7169 Other people started finding out I can cook so I been doing it for like the last four years. 193.1536 137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 193.1536 (pause 0.37) 193.5215 138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 193.5215 And this was something I had never really initially 195.5635 139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 195.5635 (pause 0.37) 195.9305 140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 195.9305 wanted to do 196.6412 141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 196.6412 (pause 0.27) 196.9114 142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 196.9114 on my own. 197.3674 143 DCB_int_01 198.0459 Hm. 198.3328 144 DCB_int_01 198.3328 (pause 0.33) 198.6598 145 DCB_int_01 198.6598 But see, it's one little- 200.2313 146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 200.3590 That's all it takes. 201.2398 147 DCB_int_01 201.1964 Just one opportunity [opens up] a door, you just never know. 204.1727 148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 202.7413 [Mm.] 203.0249 149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 204.2794 Yup. 204.5630 150 DCB_int_01 204.7399 Um, where were your parents born? Where were your father and mother born? 207.1998 151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 207.0797 207.1364 152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 207.2698 Uh, my mother was born in Chester, South Carolina. 209.8512 153 DCB_int_01 212.0820 And your dad? 212.6359 154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 212.6259 My dad was born in Charlotte, North Carolina. 214.5711 155 DCB_int_01 215.0416 Oh. 215.2618 156 DCB_int_01 215.2618 (pause 0.48) 215.7456 157 DCB_int_01 215.7456 You're a southern boy 216.6376 158 DCB_int_01 216.6376 (pause 0.43) 217.0635 159 DCB_int_01 217.0635 at heart. 217.7089 160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 217.7575 Yeah, 218.0478 161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 218.0478 (pause 0.15) 218.1980 162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 218.1980 yeah. 218.4349 163 DCB_int_01 218.6559 And what- what'd your parents do? 219.9159 164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 220.4743 Uh, my mother sh- when she was- start working she was a, um, 224.3156 165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 224.3156 (pause 0.22) 224.5325 166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 224.5325 assistant director of housekeeping 226.2007 167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 226.2007 (pause 0.70) 226.9014 168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 226.9014 for Marriott. 227.4907 169 DCB_int_01 230.8027 And dad? 231.3266 170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 231.8037 Dad was 232.9437 171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 232.9437 (pause 0.38) 233.3285 172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 233.3285 if it was a title, Jack of all trades. He did construction, 236.4148 173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 236.4148 (pause 0.66) 237.0730 174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 237.0730 um, and dad worked in maintenance as well. 239.3285 175 DCB_int_01 241.8243 Okay. 242.2547 176 DCB_int_01 242.2547 (pause 0.34) 242.5992 177 DCB_int_01 242.5992 I'm gonna- 243.0899 178 DCB_int_01 243.0899 (pause 0.48) 243.5735 179 DCB_int_01 243.5735 That's all I need to write. 244.6508 180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 244.8080 Mm. 245.0516 181 DCB_int_01 245.9925 Alright. 246.2694 182 DCB_int_01 246.2694 (pause 0.38) 246.6498 183 DCB_int_01 246.6498 So we're just gonna- 247.4631 184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 247.6174 [] 248.1546 185 DCB_int_01 247.8943 [kind of] just talk. Um, 249.3432 186 DCB_int_01 250.3242 So tell me a little bit about 251.7422 187 DCB_int_01 251.7422 (pause 0.11) 251.8523 188 DCB_int_01 251.8523 Bruce Place as w- as you remember growing up. 254.2113 189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 255.1464 Um, 255.4224 190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 255.4224 (pause 0.10) 255.5268 191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 255.5268 l- looking at it 256.3542 192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 256.3542 (pause 0.65) 257.0018 193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 257.0018 /I'll just say/ from other individuals from the outside, I mean, 259.6875 194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 259.6875 (pause 0.07) 259.7609 195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 259.7609 to them, 260.3248 196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 260.3248 (pause 0.12) 260.4490 197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 260.4490 it look- they 261.1397 198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 261.1397 (pause 0.20) 261.3432 199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 261.3432 I guess 261.8486 200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 261.8486 (pause 0.36) 262.2041 201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 262.2041 would see that as a bad neighborhood. 263.8423 202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 263.8423 (pause 0.24) 264.0859 203 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 264.0859 Of course growing up 264.9234 204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 264.9234 (pause 0.59) 265.5173 205 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 265.5173 in what they call like, the crack era which is, you know, from the eighties, 269.1053 206 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 269.1053 (pause 0.48) 269.5821 207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 269.5821 mid-eighties on, 270.4596 208 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 270.4596 (pause 0.64) 271.0969 209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 271.0969 um, I wasn't really exposed to that. 272.7694 210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 272.7694 (pause 0.65) 273.4200 211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 273.4200 I mean I had a lot of friends 274.7279 212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 274.7279 (pause 0.21) 274.9415 213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 274.9415 growing up that were 276.1161 214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 276.1161 (pause 1.21) 277.3271 215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 277.3271 I guess you would say selling drugs or in the streets, but. 280.2374 216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 280.2374 (pause 1.20) 281.4386 217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 281.4386 Uh, one of 'em was my older brother, 283.0346 218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 283.0346 (pause 0.36) 283.3938 219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 283.3938 I mean. 283.7642 220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 283.7642 (pause 0.41) 284.1746 221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 284.1746 But 284.5817 222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 284.5817 (pause 0.44) 285.0263 223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 285.0263 I think 285.4500 224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 285.4500 (pause 1.06) 286.5110 225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 286.5110 my personality was to- 288.1026 226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 288.1026 (pause 1.01) 289.1102 227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 289.1102 I learned from what- my brother not to do. I mean, that's the only thing I can say he ever taught me 293.1373 228 DCB_int_01 293.6655 [Mm.] 293.9748 229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 293.7990 [was-] 294.3328 230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 294.8934 All the wrong he done 295.9619 231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 295.9619 (pause 0.76) 296.7193 232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 296.7193 I didn't wanna dabble in it. 297.5968 233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 297.5968 (pause 0.25) 297.8504 234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 297.8504 And plus I was scared of my mother so I- 299.5554 235 DCB_int_01 299.7422 300.0359 236 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 300.6231 Yeah cause- I mean, growing up 301.7809 237 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 301.7809 (pause 0.54) 302.3256 238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 302.3256 on Bruce Place, 303.1638 239 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 303.1638 (pause 0.11) 303.2698 240 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 303.2698 um, 303.7805 241 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 303.7805 (pause 1.08) 304.8614 242 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 304.8614 it was pretty m- It's five of us, it was five of us. 306.8733 243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 306.8733 (pause 0.55) 307.4239 244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 307.4239 I have, 308.1179 245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 308.1179 (pause 0.71) 308.8261 246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 308.8261 um, 309.3466 247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 309.3466 (pause 0.90) 310.2441 248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 310.2441 a older brother, a younger brother, and a younger sister, but my older sister passed like, two thousand two. 314.1880 249 DCB_int_01 314.3122 Mm, sorry to hear that. 315.1030 250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 315.3065 But, um, it was pretty much my mom. 317.1083 251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 317.1083 (pause 1.95) 319.0602 252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 319.0602 She was mom and dad at the same time. 320.9813 253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 320.9813 (pause 0.69) 321.6675 254 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 321.6675 And growing up /?/ in- in that neighborhood, I mean, 323.6221 255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 323.6221 (pause 0.98) 324.6031 256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 324.6031 that was around the time, of course, 326.0345 257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 326.0345 (pause 0.70) 326.7360 258 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 326.7360 no electronics 327.8070 259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 327.8070 (pause 0.30) 328.1107 260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 328.1107 at all. We was outside, all day. 330.0092 261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 330.0092 (pause 1.19) 331.2037 262 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 331.2037 I mean, it was violence in the- the neighborhood, 333.0897 263 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 333.0897 (pause 0.67) 333.7603 264 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 333.7603 so to speak. Whereas 334.8647 265 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 334.8647 (pause 0.23) 335.0983 266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 335.0983 that's what everybody was- 336.2294 267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 336.2294 (pause 0.49) 336.7232 268 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 336.7232 I guess 337.3238 269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 337.3238 (pause 0.77) 338.0912 270 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 338.0912 the gang thing was more so more fighting than shooting. 340.4565 271 DCB_int_01 341.1183 Mm. 341.4019 272 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 341.6321 But, 342.0092 273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 342.0092 (pause 0.71) 342.7199 274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 342.7199 I mean, I never dabbled in- in, I- I never felt the need to. 345.6869 275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 345.6869 (pause 0.16) 345.8504 276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 345.8504 I never wanted to. 346.7580 277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 346.7580 (pause 0.82) 347.5788 278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 347.5788 But 347.9124 279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 347.9124 (pause 0.66) 348.5697 280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 348.5697 I think that 349.2570 281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 349.2570 (pause 0.93) 350.1821 282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 350.1821 it's a lot of things that I know I wanted as a child, 352.9532 283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 352.9532 (pause 0.58) 353.5354 284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 353.5354 but I was satisfied with the things that I had because I saw at a early age that 356.6217 285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 356.6217 (pause 1.03) 357.6469 286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 357.6469 my mother was busting her tail 358.9327 287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 358.9327 (pause 0.81) 359.7422 288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 359.7422 to support all of us by herself, so. 361.8476 289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 361.8476 (pause 0.30) 362.1487 290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 362.1487 I mean, I t- that was enough for me. 363.6269 291 DCB_int_01 364.9315 So, 365.4553 292 DCB_int_01 365.4553 (pause 0.26) 365.7156 293 DCB_int_01 365.7156 couple of things I wanna ask you about. 367.0769 294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 367.0502 Mm-hm. 367.3555 295 DCB_int_01 367.3405 When you say you played outside, what'd y'all do? 368.9307 296 DCB_int_01 369.3165 Like what [kind of games and stuff?] 370.4672 297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 369.6035 [Uh, f- uh], 370.4022 298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 370.6879 uh, basketball, football, tag, 373.0315 299 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 373.0315 (pause 0.82) 373.8518 300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 373.8518 um, 374.4057 301 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 374.4057 (pause 0.57) 374.9762 302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 374.9762 I was more- more so into sports. 376.8580 303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 376.8580 (pause 0.16) 377.0215 304 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 377.0215 I still am actually. 378.0459 305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 378.0459 (pause 0.38) 378.4229 306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 378.4229 But 378.6665 307 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 378.6665 (pause 0.13) 378.7999 308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 378.7999 sports, anything then was sports. And I think back then it was a lot of rec centers 382.0519 309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 382.0519 (pause 0.51) 382.5644 310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 382.5644 we can go to. 383.2384 311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 383.2384 (pause 0.41) 383.6488 312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 383.6488 Um, of course the Boys and Girls Club. Um, 385.9878 313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 385.9878 (pause 0.51) 386.4958 314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 386.4958 I don't know if you remember, it was a o- o- a organization called OSAY. 389.3552 315 DCB_int_01 390.0926 Mm-mm. 390.4432 316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 390.8567 I can't remember what it stands for but it was like a- um, it was similar to the Boys and Girls Club. 395.0783 317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 395.0783 (pause 0.56) 395.6355 318 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 395.6355 Whereas though after school you go there to do activities 398.4849 319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 398.4849 (pause 0.15) 398.6326 320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 398.6326 they involved you in sports, we went fishing. 400.5911 321 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 400.5911 (pause 0.73) 401.3218 322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 401.3218 And it faded out cause I think it was funded by the- um, 403.6708 323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 403.6708 (pause 1.24) 404.9062 324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 404.9062 the government. I think it's a organization that, um, 406.9948 325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 406.9948 (pause 0.35) 407.3419 326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 407.3419 Marion Barry was affiliated with as well. 409.2003 327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 409.2003 (pause 0.26) 409.4647 328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 409.4647 So it was r- pretty much in like the DC- 411.2498 329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 411.2498 (pause 0.64) 411.8871 330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 411.8871 DC area. 412.5878 331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 412.5878 (pause 0.86) 413.4453 332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 413.4453 Um, 414.0125 333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 414.0125 (pause 1.14) 415.1570 334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 415.1570 that was pretty much it. I mean, /and/ as far as activities we played tag, football, basketball. 419.2584 335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 419.2584 (pause 0.68) 419.9391 336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 419.9391 Um, 420.4229 337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 420.4229 (pause 0.59) 421.0135 338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 421.0135 or 421.5106 339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 421.5106 (pause 0.95) 422.4557 340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 422.4557 in somebody yard doing something playing music or something. I mean, because 425.5287 341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 425.5287 (pause 0.57) 426.1026 342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 426.1026 that was when 426.9067 343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 426.9067 (pause 0.38) 427.2904 344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 427.2904 427.6411 345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 427.6411 (pause 0.80) 428.4457 346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 428.4457 I guess, y- if you- if- if 430.0873 347 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 430.0873 (pause 0.11) 430.1974 348 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 430.1974 you in a- like a closed in like, neighborhood, 432.3495 349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 432.3495 (pause 1.02) 433.3672 350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 433.3672 um, 433.9110 351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 433.9110 (pause 0.33) 434.2422 352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 434.2422 you knew everybody on the entire street. 436.0206 353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 436.0206 (pause 0.71) 436.7313 354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 436.7313 And everybody mom knew you on the entire street. So we- 439.3171 355 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 439.3171 (pause 1.10) 440.4190 356 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 440.4190 if you did something out of order, 441.5935 357 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 441.5935 (pause 0.31) 441.9005 358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 441.9005 you got c- 442.5010 359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 442.5010 (pause 0.34) 442.8414 360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 442.8414 you got corrected from them and when you got home from your mother. 445.5073 361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 445.5073 (pause 0.63) 446.1387 362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 446.1387 But it- it was more activities then. 447.5635 363 DCB_int_01 448.4443 Like what? 448.8963 364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 449.6054 Um, 450.1226 365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 450.1226 (pause 0.31) 450.4296 366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 450.4296 involved in 451.1736 367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 451.1736 (pause 0.17) 451.3471 368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 451.3471 interaction [with other individuals yeah, where as though] now, you got your phone, 454.7014 369 DCB_int_01 451.8563 [Mm-hm, okay.] 452.3852 370 DCB_int_01 452.3852 (pause 0.12) 452.5092 371 DCB_int_01 452.5092 [Mm, yeah.] 453.4969 372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 455.5188 or computer or laptop, you fine 457.1304 373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 457.1304 (pause 0.22) 457.3540 374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 457.3540 as a child. 457.9579 375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 457.9579 (pause 0.25) 458.2090 376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 458.2090 We didn't have that. 458.8129 377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 458.8129 (pause 0.21) 459.0231 378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 459.0231 So we had to make up stuff to do. 460.3124 379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 460.3124 (pause 0.88) 461.1885 380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 461.1885 [Sit on a- um], somebody's porch playing that's my car. 464.1856 381 DCB_int_01 461.1885 [] 462.1139 382 DCB_int_01 464.4425 465.1332 383 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 465.7471 It- when you decide to be bad, you w- I remember one time I did get in trouble. 469.3306 384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 469.3306 (pause 0.87) 470.1989 385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 470.1989 It was like a wooded area we went up, it was like on a hill. 472.6180 386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 472.6180 (pause 0.09) 472.7047 387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 472.7047 We rolled evr- 473.7190 388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 473.7190 (pause 0.58) 474.2996 389 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 474.2996 We used to roll tires down the hill into the street. 476.1122 390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 476.1122 (pause 1.17) 477.2833 391 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 477.2833 I know it was- I know it was wrong. 478.4712 392 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 478.4712 (pause 0.23) 478.6980 393 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 478.6980 But still. [] 480.0660 394 DCB_int_01 479.8125 [So you] would sit on the hill, 481.3706 395 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 481.6184 /Yup./ 481.8917 396 DCB_int_01 481.8686 wait til a [car come], and roll a tire into the street? 483.7686 397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 482.4592 [] 482.7562 398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 483.7805 Yup, roll a tire down the hill into the street. 485.3153 399 DCB_int_01 486.1461 So the car would hit the t- so you would try not to hit- you try to dodge the car? What- what was the objective? 491.3687 400 DCB_int_01 491.3687 (pause 0.51) 491.8792 401 DCB_int_01 491.8792 How do you [win?] 492.6552 402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 492.4364 [Uh], the objective was to see if the car could stop /to/ hit on brakes before the, uh, the [tire came from- (laughing)] 498.1428 403 DCB_int_01 496.4680 [] 498.6128 404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 499.5617 I mean, I know I was wrong. 500.5927 405 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 500.5927 (pause 0.12) 500.7161 406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 500.7161 I know I was wrong. Stuff like that. 502.0941 407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 502.0941 (pause 0.74) 502.8348 408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 502.8348 Uh, throwing snowballs at the bus 504.5332 409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 504.5332 (pause 0.90) 505.4315 410 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 505.4315 when it droves past, I mean. 506.6027 411 DCB_int_01 508.0441 You were mischievous. [So not so] much bad just you like to cause mischief. 512.1155 412 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 509.1752 [Uh.] 509.6056 413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 509.6056 (pause 2.51) 512.1155 414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 512.1155 512.4358 415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 512.6827 Um, yeah but the [funny thing is] 514.6213 416 DCB_int_01 513.9206 [But you were bad,] 514.7446 417 DCB_int_01 514.8949 you were bad. 515.4688 418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 515.7524 I never- 516.3830 419 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 516.3830 (pause 0.15) 516.5298 420 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 516.5298 I never got a beating and I never got a punish. 518.5860 421 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 518.5860 (pause 1.10) 519.6904 422 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 519.6904 Cause I watch what- like I said what my older brother and my older sister 522.5732 423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 522.5732 (pause 0.51) 523.0804 424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 523.0804 all the trouble they got into, I was like, nah I'm'a do the exact opposite. 525.8239 425 DCB_int_01 526.3177 [So you the] third. 527.2152 426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 526.3477 [I've never b-] 526.7815 427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 527.6056 Yes I'm a middle child. 528.4564 428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 528.4564 (pause 0.66) 529.1137 429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 529.1137 And I have a younger brother and a younger sister. 530.5593 430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 530.5593 (pause 0.33) 530.8863 431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 530.8863 But I never got in trouble before. 532.0774 432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 532.0774 (pause 1.89) 533.9659 433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 533.9659 [They used to] say I was the spoiled one because I never got in trouble but I did what I was supposed to in school 537.5402 434 DCB_int_01 534.0160 [/?/] 534.1999 435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 538.3310 to the point where my mother was like, if I did something small, 540.6566 436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 540.6566 (pause 1.14) 541.7919 437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 541.7919 to her it wasn't as bad. 542.9230 438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 542.9230 (pause 0.79) 543.7104 439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 543.7104 Because I guess as a parent sometimes you weigh your options. I'm not gonna 546.2773 440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 546.2773 (pause 0.99) 547.2639 441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 547.2639 punish him that much, he- he doesn't never get in trouble and he does well in school. Where as though my brother 551.1718 442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 551.1718 (pause 0.51) 551.6823 443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 551.6823 skipped class every day, 552.7801 444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 552.7801 (pause 0.25) 553.0303 445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 553.0303 got suspended every week. 553.9721 446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 553.9721 (pause 0.10) 554.0688 447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 554.0688 So any little thing he done 555.2500 448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 555.2500 (pause 0.34) 555.5903 449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 555.5903 did, 555.9476 450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 555.9476 (pause 0.36) 556.3077 451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 556.3077 she was on top of 'em. 557.0863 452 DCB_int_01 557.6423 Right. 557.9316 453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 558.0494 Literally. 558.5098 454 DCB_int_01 559.0003 Cause it's 559.3673 455 DCB_int_01 559.3673 (pause 0.16) 559.5316 456 DCB_int_01 559.5316 two d- I mean, you doing all this versus [oh just] one little thing. 562.6447 457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 561.4568 [] 561.8072 458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 561.8072 (pause 0.78) 562.5913 459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 562.5913 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, as a parent you gotta weigh your options. 565.4215 460 DCB_int_01 566.1556 [So] 566.7582 461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 566.6227 [As a] disciplinarian. (laughing) 567.4272 462 DCB_int_01 567.5236 I can- I can just imagine little /RD-NAME-2/. 569.2719 463 DCB_int_01 569.2719 (pause 0.54) 569.8091 464 DCB_int_01 569.8091 I'm still going on the h- hill, cause my tire just blew out the other day. 573.2700 465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 573.4034 [] 574.2042 466 DCB_int_01 573.5436 [Some- there was a-] there's something in the road and the car in the [other lane] 576.7567 467 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 576.3063 [Uh-huh.] 576.6609 468 DCB_int_01 577.2005 ran over it and it came into my lane and hit my tire so I had to buy a new t- It blew my whole tire out. 581.8158 469 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 581.9659 [Wow.] 582.2996 470 DCB_int_01 582.0727 [Like it] poked a- like the hole was this big. 583.9387 471 DCB_int_01 584.5593 And so, then I'm just like, oh my g- Cause I can just imagine this like- So right now, 588.4631 472 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 588.5899 It- [it wasn't- it wasn't-] it wasn't [me, /RD-NAME-2/.] 590.1923 473 DCB_int_01 588.7534 [you know, that's a sore-] 589.3814 474 DCB_int_01 589.3814 (pause 0.53) 589.9087 475 DCB_int_01 589.9087 [that's a-] 590.1756 476 DCB_int_01 590.2623 that's a sore spot [right now.] 591.3850 477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 591.0865 [I didn't] do it, it wasn't me. 592.0674 478 DCB_int_01 592.2643 The- it wasn't you? [But I- I just] think that was little /RD-NAME-2/, that was little /RD-NAME-2] 596.4725 479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 592.9817 [That wasn't.] 593.5756 480 DCB_int_01 596.9830 reincarnated making my tire flat. 598.9883 481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 599.2552 I mean, as a child, I mean, you- you didn't try /?/ I guess, you know, harm, you saw it as fun. 602.9230 482 DCB_int_01 600.0360 [] 602.2787 483 DCB_int_01 602.9864 Yeah. 603.3077 484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 603.3834 I didn't wanna harm nobody. But looking at it now I'm saying /I'm/ stupid, so. 606.7766 485 DCB_int_01 606.7867 I mean, as the director of safety. 608.0822 486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 608.0655 Ah [yes, it is,] 608.9297 487 DCB_int_01 608.3958 [] 614.9563 488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 609.0898 [it is, so.] 609.7938 489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 609.7938 (pause 1.22) 611.0117 490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 611.0117 [You made it worse.] 611.7824 491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 611.7824 (pause 2.80) 614.5793 492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 614.5793 [] 615.2066 493 DCB_int_01 615.5903 Uh, thank you director of safety. [Uh], yeah, I used to roll tires and- and try to get people to slam on [breaks, um.] 621.3067 494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 617.2586 [Yeah.] 617.5489 495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 617.5489 (pause 2.83) 620.3791 496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 620.3791 [Yup, in t- in traffic.] 621.6670 497 DCB_int_01 622.1008 So did y'all live in an apartment, did you live in a house? 624.0369 498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 623.9993 Town- it was a townhouse. 624.9302 499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 625.6217 It was a town- it was a- m- uh, 626.7862 500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 626.7862 (pause 0.18) 626.9664 501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 626.9664 yeah, it w- /??/ 627.9139 502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 627.9139 (pause 0.15) 628.0641 503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 628.0641 yeah, [rowhouse, rowhouse] yeah, rowhouse yeah. 630.2963 504 DCB_int_01 628.6313 [A rowhouse?] 629.1585 505 DCB_int_01 630.7467 And so- and it was like a lot [of kids in the] neighborhood? 632.7929 506 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 631.8953 [] 632.2590 507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 632.2590 (pause 0.53) 632.7895 508 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 632.7895 Yes. 633.3442 509 DCB_int_01 633.9740 Oh that's good. 634.6313 510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 634.6346 The entire neighborhood. The whole block of Bruce. Because Bruce 637.4174 511 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 637.4174 (pause 0.54) 637.9554 512 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 637.9554 ran into, um, Stanton Road, 639.9740 513 DCB_int_01 640.3677 Mm-hm. 640.6944 514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 640.9183 and went all the way around to Robinson. 642.7801 515 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 642.7801 (pause 1.02) 643.7952 516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 643.7952 And like I said from, um, knowing your neighbors, it extended from Bruce all the way around to Stanton Road, all the way around to Ro- Everybody knew everybody. 651.1259 517 DCB_int_01 652.4378 Did y'all do anything together as like a neighbor- I mean, besides like, play did y'all like- 656.1255 518 DCB_int_01 656.1255 (pause 0.18) 656.3057 519 DCB_int_01 656.3057 like have a community center or 658.0177 520 DCB_int_01 658.0177 (pause 0.27) 658.2843 521 DCB_int_01 658.2843 did y'all like- 658.7948 522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 658.8315 [Yeah it was, um,] 659.9059 523 DCB_int_01 659.0617 [cookouts or something?] 660.1304 524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 660.2696 at- um, 661.0503 525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 661.0503 (pause 0.25) 661.3006 526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 661.3006 661.3807 527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 661.3807 (pause 0.50) 661.8786 528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 661.8786 directly across the street was the junior high school I went to, it's /RD-SCHOOL-5/. 665.4080 529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 665.4080 (pause 0.63) 666.0360 530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 666.0360 And they had a rec center, /RD-SCHOOL-2/ rec that like all the surrounding neighborhoods went to. Stanton Road, 670.6447 531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 670.6447 (pause 0.47) 671.1184 532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 671.1184 Bruce Place, 671.8658 533 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 671.8658 (pause 0.66) 672.5298 534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 672.5298 and, um, 673.4871 535 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 673.4871 (pause 0.34) 673.8286 536 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 673.8286 like Congress Park, too, 674.9030 537 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 674.9030 (pause 0.41) 675.3134 538 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 675.3134 which is like further down, 676.3644 539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 676.3644 (pause 0.48) 676.8482 540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 676.8482 went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ rec center cause every Friday 678.7776 541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 678.7776 (pause 0.12) 678.8977 542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 678.8977 we skated, 679.4916 543 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 679.4916 (pause 0.64) 680.1289 544 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 680.1289 or 680.6160 545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 680.6160 (pause 0.47) 681.0898 546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 681.0898 the rec center have some type of activities there whether it was sports, or 684.3830 547 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 684.3830 (pause 0.80) 685.1813 548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 685.1813 anything, like, cheerleading competition 686.8229 549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 686.8229 (pause 0.59) 687.4135 550 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 687.4135 for girls. Everything was there cause it was big enough, 689.2815 551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 689.2815 (pause 0.41) 689.6890 552 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 689.6890 the rec center was to hold a lot of kids. 691.6509 553 DCB_int_01 692.0421 So now going back, cause you said there was gang activity like, 694.5979 554 DCB_int_01 694.5979 (pause 0.11) 694.7114 555 DCB_int_01 694.7114 turf wars. So was that a big thing? 696.6232 556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 696.9703 Yeah but usually I figure during that time I'm like, what, 699.1599 557 DCB_int_01 699.5569 [Ten.] 699.9173 558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 699.7104 [ten.] 700.3677 559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 702.1561 We didn't, I guess, 703.2647 560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 703.2647 (pause 0.84) 704.1022 561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 704.1022 interact in that directly. It w- that was for like, the older guys like my brother at age like, 709.1412 562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 709.1412 (pause 0.49) 709.6317 563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 709.6317 nine- from nineteen up. 711.0298 564 DCB_int_01 711.4702 Oh okay. 711.9155 565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 712.0874 Yeah, us as kids, they saw us- they'll see us, especially the ones that, you know, 716.3761 566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 716.3761 (pause 1.13) 717.5069 567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 717.5069 they knew it wasn't their lifestyle, we'll 719.8158 568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 719.8158 (pause 0.15) 719.9626 569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 719.9626 be in their area, hey y'all need to go. 721.5516 570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 721.5516 (pause 0.48) 722.0288 571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 722.0288 Go somewhere else. 722.7361 572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 722.7361 (pause 1.13) 723.8639 573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 723.8639 It was like that then, whereas though now, I mean, I /would say that's-/ 726.2696 574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 726.2696 (pause 0.26) 726.5298 575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 726.5298 you walk past people that don't say nothing to you or don't really care. 728.8496 576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 728.8496 (pause 0.76) 729.6103 577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 729.6103 Whereas though back then the older guys, they'll see us, the ones- the guys- 732.6833 578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 732.6833 (pause 0.14) 732.8276 579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 732.8276 the younger guys, you know, that- they know we into sports 735.1065 580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 735.1065 (pause 0.50) 735.6070 581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 735.6070 and we don't deal in that type of activity. 737.2052 582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 737.2052 (pause 0.50) 737.7090 583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 737.7090 They used to tell us, and I've been told that as well, 739.6584 584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 739.6584 (pause 0.40) 740.0555 585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 740.0555 we're walking in the area about to go play football, no, y'all can't come over here. 743.3420 586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 743.3420 (pause 0.71) 744.0527 587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 744.0527 Go back that way. 744.7901 588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 744.7901 (pause 0.44) 745.2280 589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 745.2280 We knew what it meant, so we- okay, 746.5726 590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 746.5726 (pause 0.17) 746.7428 591 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 746.7428 we leave, 747.2967 592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 747.2967 (pause 0.35) 747.6504 593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 747.6504 go about our business. 748.4978 594 DCB_int_01 748.7648 Cause they know something about to pop [off.] 750.3830 595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 750.1962 [Exactly], yeah. 751.0070 596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 751.2480 Or we shouldn't be in that area at the time. 752.7995 597 DCB_int_01 753.9607 Oh wow. So everybody kind of looked out for everybody. 756.3029 598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 756.3029 Exactly, yeah. 757.1337 599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 757.2313 In all the neighborhoods. Cause like I said, everybody knew- 759.3701 600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 759.3701 (pause 0.24) 759.6137 601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 759.6137 I mean, the neighborhoods were that close where 761.4688 602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 761.4688 (pause 0.53) 762.0026 603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 762.0026 I can walk 762.6433 604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 762.6433 (pause 0.27) 762.9144 605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 762.9144 across the s- like the, um, football field, 764.8896 606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 764.8896 (pause 0.60) 765.4935 607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 765.4935 and I'm at, um, what's that, it's called Robinson Street. 768.2028 608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 768.2028 (pause 0.86) 769.0612 609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 769.0612 Um, 769.5183 610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 769.5183 (pause 0.92) 770.4392 611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 770.4392 and it's been instances where Bruce Street and Robinson Street, somebody from that area, from- somebody from my area 775.7610 612 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 775.7610 (pause 0.93) 776.6861 613 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 776.6861 was- um, had conflict at the time. 778.2643 614 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 778.2643 (pause 0.79) 779.0551 615 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 779.0551 And it's like, if you walk over there, it's like a five minute walk. 781.2005 616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 781.2005 (pause 0.61) 781.8119 617 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 781.8119 That's how close it was. 782.6894 618 DCB_int_01 783.1932 Mm. 783.4602 619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 783.5736 Cause everybody was into- And some are like that now, 786.0660 620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 786.0660 (pause 0.55) 786.6199 621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 786.6199 I guess claiming the street that you're from, which I never really understood and saw the point of it, but. 790.7281 622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 790.7281 (pause 0.13) 790.8615 623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 790.8615 Cause it's not your street, [so. ] 792.1361 624 DCB_int_01 791.6023 [] 792.6499 625 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 793.0804 But they were into that then. 793.8745 626 DCB_int_01 794.1622 Right. 794.4992 627 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 794.7428 So. 795.0331 628 DCB_int_01 795.6003 So tell me about school. 796.9249 629 DCB_int_01 796.9249 (pause 0.19) 797.1118 630 DCB_int_01 797.1118 Cause- 797.8825 631 DCB_int_01 797.8825 (pause 0.30) 798.1828 632 DCB_int_01 798.1828 Elementary school, let's start there, where'd you go to elementary school? 800.5059 633 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 800.4525 I- 800.5426 634 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 800.6260 elementary I went to Malcolm X. 802.0405 635 DCB_int_01 802.2943 Okay. 802.6280 636 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 802.7648 I went to Malcolm X, um, 804.2662 637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 804.2662 (pause 0.49) 804.7600 638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 804.7600 804.8468 639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 804.8468 (pause 1.00) 805.8419 640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 805.8419 Left there and went to Johnson 807.4902 641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 807.4902 (pause 0.41) 807.9039 642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 807.9039 which was- 808.6380 643 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 808.6380 (pause 0.28) 808.9183 644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 808.9183 if I walked to school, it took two minutes. 810.6032 645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 810.6032 (pause 0.16) 810.7609 646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 810.7609 So I had no excuse for being late. 812.3257 647 DCB_int_01 813.1999 813.7266 648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 814.0040 Um, I mean, the most fun I ever had 816.0627 649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 816.0627 (pause 0.26) 816.3230 650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 816.3230 was in junior high school, I mean because 818.3758 651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 818.3758 (pause 2.33) 820.7014 652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 820.7014 in elementary school I was kind of quiet, laid back. 823.1137 653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 823.1137 (pause 0.92) 824.0288 654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 824.0288 All I did was draw. 824.8863 655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 824.8863 (pause 1.14) 826.0274 656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 826.0274 I still draw sometimes, but 827.4741 657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 827.4741 (pause 0.17) 827.6423 658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 827.6423 that's all I did in the elementary school my mother used to tell me, was draw. In the house, 830.4525 659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 830.4525 (pause 0.42) 830.8729 660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 830.8729 if I'm not playing sports, I'm drawing somewhere. 832.6780 661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 832.6780 (pause 0.76) 833.4388 662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 833.4388 But junior high school, 834.4631 663 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 834.4631 (pause 0.24) 834.7000 664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 834.7000 you know, the older you get, 835.6943 665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 835.6943 (pause 0.39) 836.0855 666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 836.0855 the more you observe, 836.9997 667 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 836.9997 (pause 0.93) 837.9340 668 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 837.9340 uh, 838.6346 669 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 838.6346 (pause 0.23) 838.8682 670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 838.8682 the more you take a liking to girls. 840.6266 671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 840.6266 (pause 0.29) 840.9177 672 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 840.9177 [So], (laughing) 841.4015 673 DCB_int_01 841.0612 [] 841.9887 674 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 841.9620 that little shell you in, you 843.2900 675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 843.4869 quickly come out of it. 844.3869 676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 844.3869 (pause 0.97) 845.3520 677 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 845.3520 Um, 845.8692 678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 845.8692 (pause 1.39) 847.2605 679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 847.2605 and I- and I think that's when I had the best teachers, I mean, cause 849.6470 680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 849.6470 (pause 1.22) 850.8715 681 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 850.8715 back then, majority of teachers were nowhere near your age. 853.3214 682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 853.3214 (pause 0.85) 854.1756 683 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 854.1756 Way older. 855.0164 684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 855.0164 (pause 0.25) 855.2633 685 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 855.2633 Cause if you figure you in junior high school you like, what, 857.4254 686 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 857.4254 (pause 1.02) 858.4464 687 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 858.4464 fifteen, 859.1838 688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 859.1838 (pause 0.39) 859.5750 689 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 859.5750 fourteen, something like that? 860.5960 690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 860.5960 (pause 0.24) 860.8362 691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 860.8362 Teachers was in their fifties and sixties. 862.4445 692 DCB_int_01 863.0117 Oh wow. 863.6356 693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 863.7324 Yeah, teachers were older and experienced. 865.8878 694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 865.8878 (pause 0.94) 866.8229 695 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 866.8229 And it was more- um, 868.4545 696 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 868.4545 (pause 1.63) 870.0827 697 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 870.0827 more interaction with the kids there and in elementary school. You know, they used to w- they had the, um, 874.2309 698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 874.2309 (pause 0.41) 874.6413 699 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 874.6413 the green light to discipline a student. 875.9226 700 DCB_int_01 876.0460 Mm-hm. 876.4194 701 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 876.8443 [Whereas though n-] 877.3856 702 DCB_int_01 876.8943 [Paddle.] 877.2647 703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 877.5149 Yeah, 877.8052 704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 877.8052 (pause 0.13) 877.9387 705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 877.9387 /praddle/, I got it on my hand a couple times. 879.7972 706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 879.7972 (pause 1.01) 880.8115 707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 880.8115 Um, whereas though now, it's the exact opposite, but. 883.3348 708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 883.3348 (pause 0.86) 884.1923 709 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 884.1923 Junior high school I think was my best years. And from there, I went to 887.2386 710 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 887.2386 (pause 0.45) 887.6923 711 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 887.6923 /RD-SCHOOL-2/. I was supposed to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 889.5775 712 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 889.5775 (pause 0.90) 890.4792 713 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 890.4792 But, 890.7862 714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 890.7862 (pause 0.81) 891.5936 715 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 891.5936 I mean, because of the, um, 892.8048 716 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 892.8048 (pause 0.74) 893.5422 717 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 893.5422 what is that called, like the boundary rules? Because I could actually walk to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 896.4525 718 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 896.4525 (pause 0.44) 896.8930 719 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 896.8930 But I wanted to go to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ because I heard it was a better school. 899.6656 720 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 899.6656 (pause 0.52) 900.1828 721 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 900.1828 And at the time, my grades let me go there. Cause I wasn't supposed to go there. 903.0665 722 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 903.0665 (pause 0.21) 903.2800 723 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 903.2800 But because of my grades they let me go. 904.8148 724 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 904.8148 (pause 0.27) 905.0817 725 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 905.0817 And I wanted to play football there. 906.2462 726 DCB_int_01 906.8568 They had a better football team? 907.8544 727 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 908.5693 Uh, I thought they did. 909.7505 728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 909.7505 (pause 0.70) 910.4545 729 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 910.4545 But 911.1919 730 DCB_int_01 911.3654 911.9392 731 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 912.4064 found out very quickly the exact opposite when I got there. 914.7862 732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 914.7862 (pause 0.27) 915.0598 733 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 915.0598 But I stayed though. 915.7447 734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 915.7447 (pause 0.14) 915.8873 735 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 915.8873 They had a- we had a better basketball team though. 917.4037 736 DCB_int_01 917.7357 Did you play basketball too? 918.5832 737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 918.5899 Yeah. 918.7867 738 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 918.7867 (pause 0.18) 918.9636 739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 918.9636 Football and basketball. 919.7844 740 DCB_int_01 920.5493 Okay so you had to give up one for the other. 922.1809 741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 922.1108 922.1842 742 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 922.3410 Yeah. 922.5944 743 DCB_int_01 923.0217 So tell me about- 923.7991 744 DCB_int_01 923.7991 (pause 0.17) 923.9726 745 DCB_int_01 923.9726 924.2819 746 DCB_int_01 924.2819 (pause 0.57) 924.8568 747 DCB_int_01 924.8568 tell me about your most fun time in school? 927.8572 748 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 928.7548 Um, 929.3520 749 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 929.3520 (pause 1.77) 931.1204 750 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 931.1204 m- m- just like at home I was a class clown in school. 933.4702 751 DCB_int_01 933.8639 I can believe it. 934.6747 752 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 934.9516 But 935.3090 753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 935.3090 (pause 0.57) 935.8825 754 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 935.8825 it was to the point where I never disre- I did my work 938.2790 755 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 938.2790 (pause 0.44) 938.7161 756 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 938.7161 all the time. And I think that's why 940.2209 757 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 940.2209 (pause 0.42) 940.6380 758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 940.6380 a lot of teachers let- let me get away with a lot of stuff because- 943.2238 759 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 943.2238 (pause 0.72) 943.9420 760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 943.9420 And half the time I was making them laugh too so they couldn't get- put me out of class. 947.0384 761 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 947.0384 (pause 0.11) 947.1518 762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 947.1518 I was never disrespectful though. 948.3096 763 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 948.3096 (pause 1.09) 949.3973 764 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 949.3973 But, um, 950.2023 765 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 950.2023 (pause 1.00) 951.2066 766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 951.2066 I joked a lot in class. 952.4378 767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 952.4378 (pause 0.48) 952.9216 768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 952.9216 a whole lot in class. 953.9669 769 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 953.9669 (pause 0.82) 954.7867 770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 954.7867 I never got put out but I was one of the ones, you- you joking with me, 957.4961 771 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 957.4961 (pause 0.52) 958.0140 772 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 958.0140 my work's done, your's not. 959.2719 773 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 959.2719 (pause 0.27) 959.5422 774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 959.5422 But you gonna get in trouble, I'm not. 960.7000 775 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 960.7000 (pause 1.42) 962.1222 776 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 962.1222 And it was always like that. 963.1699 777 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 963.1699 (pause 0.84) 964.0107 778 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 964.0107 And I think 964.4611 779 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 964.4611 (pause 0.18) 964.6413 780 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 964.6413 I had so much fun 965.6656 781 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 965.6656 (pause 0.83) 966.4965 782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 966.4965 in junior high school and high school because- 968.4859 783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 968.4859 (pause 0.93) 969.4168 784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 969.4168 And when I went to, um, /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 970.8148 785 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 970.8148 (pause 1.15) 971.9659 786 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 971.9659 and I think that's another reason why my mother really wanted me to go there, 974.6594 787 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 974.6594 (pause 0.53) 975.1866 788 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 975.1866 I didn't know nobody there. 976.1842 789 DCB_int_01 976.8248 Mm. 977.0684 790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 977.1885 Because everybody I knew from junior high school 979.5141 791 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 979.5141 (pause 0.85) 980.3691 792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 980.3691 and everybody in my neighborhood 981.8539 793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 981.8539 (pause 0.38) 982.2343 794 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 982.2343 went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 982.9142 795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 982.9142 (pause 0.22) 983.1385 796 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 983.1385 because it was closer. 983.9860 797 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 983.9860 (pause 0.81) 984.7967 798 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 984.7967 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ had to catch a bus to get to. It w- wasn't that far, but still. 987.8172 799 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 987.8172 (pause 1.17) 988.9850 800 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 988.9850 I didn't r- I didn't- when at that- out of that entire school I only knew like two people when I first got there. 992.5761 801 DCB_int_01 993.6203 At /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 994.1283 802 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 994.1642 At /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 994.6413 803 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 994.6413 (pause 0.29) 994.9316 804 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 994.9316 Didn't know nobody. 995.7190 805 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 995.7190 (pause 0.58) 996.2963 806 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 996.2963 And she thought it was better for me, I think it was too, I mean, [because] 998.9430 807 DCB_int_01 998.4926 [Mm-hm.] 998.9597 808 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 999.3901 I don't think I was the type to follow behind anybody, but she just wanted to make sure that I didn't 1003.3640 809 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1003.3640 (pause 0.24) 1003.6050 810 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1003.6050 follow that route. 1004.1923 811 DCB_int_01 1004.7962 Right. 1005.0722 812 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1005.1495 [Because it was nobody] to follow behind because 1006.9149 813 DCB_int_01 1005.1699 [/Nah-/] 1005.6737 814 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1007.2085 [you don't-] 1007.4819 815 DCB_int_01 1007.2286 [You don't know nobody.] 1007.8058 816 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1007.6023 [you don't] know nobody, nah. 1008.5142 817 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1009.1905 So, I mean, I- I- I loved- I loved high school though. 1011.2745 818 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1011.2745 (pause 0.79) 1012.0608 819 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1012.0608 I- um, 1012.6346 820 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1012.6346 (pause 2.44) 1015.0703 821 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1015.0703 my first year I didn't play any sports, 1016.9096 822 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1016.9096 (pause 0.71) 1017.6203 823 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1017.6203 cause I was kind of hesitant. 1018.6780 824 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1018.6780 (pause 0.19) 1018.8649 825 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1018.8649 Because, I mean, I've- 1019.5656 826 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1019.5656 (pause 1.15) 1020.7119 827 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1020.7119 Plus you know, now I'm 1021.4240 828 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1021.4240 (pause 0.27) 1021.6918 829 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1021.6918 kind of tall. I was tall for my age. 1023.3467 830 DCB_int_01 1023.7271 [Mm-hm.] 1024.0908 831 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1023.8172 [So going] there, 1024.6212 832 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1024.9616 I'm tall, 1025.5989 833 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1025.5989 (pause 0.59) 1026.1928 834 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1026.1928 guys in the twelfth grade, some of 'em, 1027.8553 835 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1027.8553 (pause 0.41) 1028.2690 836 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1028.2690 my- my height. 1029.1899 837 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1029.1899 (pause 0.70) 1029.8906 838 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1029.8906 They looking at me like, /?/ 1030.8782 839 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1030.8782 (pause 0.81) 1031.6923 840 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1031.6923 when you- when- when you get here? 1032.8768 841 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1032.8768 (pause 0.49) 1033.3673 842 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1033.3673 But I was like, man I'm in the, um, tenth grade. 1035.1932 843 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1035.1932 (pause 0.80) 1035.9907 844 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1035.9907 You are? 1036.3811 845 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1036.3811 (pause 0.43) 1036.8148 846 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1036.8148 Why you not playing sports? Oh, I didn't want to. 1038.6032 847 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1038.6032 (pause 1.02) 1039.6242 848 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1039.6242 So I didn't play until my second year. 1040.9297 849 DCB_int_01 1042.6380 And then 1043.3553 850 DCB_int_01 1043.3553 (pause 0.89) 1044.2496 851 DCB_int_01 1044.2496 were you on varsity? 1044.9903 852 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1045.5275 Uh, second year yeah I was. 1046.7662 853 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1046.7662 (pause 0.37) 1047.1365 854 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1047.1365 Varsity basketball, football though, the football team was I felt- 1050.2362 855 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1050.2362 (pause 1.08) 1051.3139 856 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1051.3139 um, it was a couple of players that was there 1053.2466 857 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1053.2466 (pause 0.42) 1053.6637 858 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1053.6637 last year, 1054.2876 859 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1054.2876 (pause 0.64) 1054.9316 860 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1054.9316 the year before, that should've graduated. 1056.2544 861 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1056.2544 (pause 0.32) 1056.5699 862 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1056.5699 So, 1056.8868 863 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1056.8868 (pause 0.96) 1057.8453 864 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1057.8453 stayed on the team. 1058.6527 865 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1058.6527 (pause 1.16) 1059.8105 866 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1059.8105 So, 1060.2242 867 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1060.2242 (pause 0.29) 1060.5179 868 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1060.5179 I played m- majority, um, 1062.2729 869 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1062.2729 (pause 0.55) 1062.8234 870 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1062.8234 my last two years basketball. I didn't play that much football. I should've but I didn't. 1066.0574 871 DCB_int_01 1067.4454 So how did- Okay, so 1068.8748 872 DCB_int_01 1068.8748 (pause 0.30) 1069.1746 873 DCB_int_01 1069.1746 tell me about playing basketball, cause I'm'a ask you about basketball in a minute. 1072.3977 874 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1072.9416 Um, 1073.6289 875 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1073.6289 (pause 0.61) 1074.2395 876 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1074.2395 I loved it, man. 1075.0879 877 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1075.0879 (pause 0.75) 1075.8353 878 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1075.8353 I really really loved it. Um, cause I think my- 1077.9273 879 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1077.9273 (pause 1.23) 1079.1585 880 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1079.1585 when I was in the tenth- 1080.0518 881 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1080.0518 (pause 0.13) 1080.1795 882 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1080.1795 One person I did know there, and I knew him from when I was in junior high school cause he was older. 1084.2476 883 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1084.2476 (pause 0.96) 1085.2085 884 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1085.2085 I don't know if you ever heard of him but his name /RD-NAME-4/. 1086.9602 885 DCB_int_01 1087.4349 Mm-mm. 1087.7085 886 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1087.8920 He went to Georgetown, 1088.7929 887 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1088.7929 (pause 0.30) 1089.0931 888 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1089.0931 played for John Thompson, he- he was good. But it- my first year [there-] 1091.8367 889 DCB_int_01 1091.6089 [The daddy.] 1092.0861 890 DCB_int_01 1093.8086 He played for the daddy. 1094.8262 891 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1094.9630 Yeah [he played-] yeah. 1095.5830 892 DCB_int_01 1095.0431 [Not-] 1095.2566 893 DCB_int_01 1095.5836 not the son. [/???/] 1096.8328 894 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1096.1508 [No he played for the] father [yeah, he played for the dad- yes.] 1098.5131 895 DCB_int_01 1097.1818 [This the eightie- oh, I'm-] we're in the nineties. [Yeah, the] daddy, [mm-hm.] 1100.1656 896 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1099.2505 [Yeah.] 1099.5475 897 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1099.5475 (pause 0.33) 1099.8820 898 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1099.8820 [He played] for the daddy. 1100.7328 899 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1101.4402 Uh, cause my first year there 1102.7448 900 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1102.7448 (pause 0.29) 1103.0350 901 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1103.0350 was his last year. 1103.8959 902 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1103.8959 (pause 0.43) 1104.3263 903 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1104.3263 He was like real 1105.1538 904 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1105.1538 (pause 0.17) 1105.3273 905 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1105.3273 like- 1105.5475 906 DCB_int_01 1105.9020 Mm-hm. 1106.2657 907 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1106.9997 real hyped up player, 1107.9807 908 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1107.9807 (pause 0.75) 1108.7347 909 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1108.7347 from a, um, area standpoint. Everybody was supporting him and was behind him. 1111.6542 910 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1111.6542 (pause 0.75) 1112.4091 911 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1112.4091 And he knew- remembered me from playing 1114.2276 912 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1114.2276 (pause 1.28) 1115.5055 913 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1115.5055 in junior high school. 1116.4364 914 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1116.4364 (pause 0.12) 1116.5532 915 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1116.5532 And when he saw me, he was like, man why you ain't try out for the team? 1118.7094 916 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1118.7094 (pause 0.53) 1119.2366 917 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1119.2366 Was like, I ain't- 1119.7037 918 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1119.7037 (pause 0.20) 1119.9073 919 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1119.9073 nah, I ain't want to, I'm'a wait the next year. 1121.5055 920 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1121.5055 (pause 1.33) 1122.8401 921 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1122.8401 But I love basketball, I still love basketball. 1124.8062 922 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1124.8062 (pause 0.67) 1125.4735 923 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1125.4735 I still play basketball. 1126.5546 924 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1126.5546 (pause 0.55) 1127.1051 925 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1127.1051 And I think the coach that I had there 1128.6399 926 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1128.6399 (pause 1.28) 1129.9153 927 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1129.9153 we didn't really s- 1131.2900 928 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1131.2900 (pause 0.20) 1131.4902 929 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1131.4902 I guess 1132.0174 930 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1132.0174 (pause 1.40) 1133.4187 931 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1133.4187 see eye to eye on certain things because he wanted me to play a position I didn't wanna play. 1136.8763 932 DCB_int_01 1137.3634 What position? 1137.8606 933 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1137.8239 Center. 1138.2076 934 DCB_int_01 1138.7881 I was gonna ask were you a center. 1139.8959 935 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1139.9192 Yeah. 1140.1595 936 DCB_int_01 1140.1161 What'd you wanna play, power forward? 1141.1679 937 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1141.3047 Uh, [yes.] 1141.8914 938 DCB_int_01 1141.6150 [Or small] forward? 1142.2417 939 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1143.0097 Uh, power forward, small four. 1144.5194 940 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1144.5194 (pause 0.31) 1144.8248 941 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1144.8248 I mean, because [of cour-] 1145.7702 942 DCB_int_01 1145.3662 [So four] or five. 1146.2088 943 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1146.4472 [Yeah.] 1146.7006 944 DCB_int_01 1146.6040 [You just] didn't wanna play three. 1147.4457 945 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1147.4682 No I did not. 1148.0855 946 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1148.0855 (pause 0.69) 1148.7770 947 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1148.7770 Because 1149.3943 948 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1149.3943 (pause 0.41) 1149.8047 949 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1149.8047 of course now, 1150.5153 950 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1150.5153 (pause 0.97) 1151.4830 951 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1151.4830 the height I'm at now, if I was going to the NBA I'm considered short. 1154.0200 952 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1154.0200 (pause 0.57) 1154.5868 953 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1154.5868 Six four, 1155.1015 954 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1155.1015 (pause 0.25) 1155.3509 955 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1155.3509 this is not that tall [in the NBA.] 1156.6154 956 DCB_int_01 1156.1416 [You point] guard. 1156.9758 957 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1157.5230 [Pretty much.] 1158.1350 958 DCB_int_01 1157.6898 [] 1158.0568 959 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1158.3638 So [imagine me-] 1159.3481 960 DCB_int_01 1158.5573 [] 1159.4382 961 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1159.4457 I mean, I- I knew I was kind of tall for, uh, high school. 1161.9749 962 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1161.9749 (pause 0.26) 1162.2384 963 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1162.2384 I was like, man I didn't wanna play center. 1163.5063 964 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1163.5063 (pause 0.98) 1164.4839 965 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1164.4839 I didn't because 1165.4349 966 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1165.4349 (pause 1.15) 1166.5801 967 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1166.5801 center don't have the ball that much. 1168.0682 968 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1168.0682 (pause 1.05) 1169.1226 969 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1169.1226 You get the ball occasionally when you in the post, I mean, but 1171.4749 970 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1171.4749 (pause 0.27) 1171.7460 971 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1171.7460 I didn't wanna play it. But now, 1173.2241 972 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1173.2241 (pause 0.45) 1173.6712 973 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1173.6712 looking at it, 1174.2618 974 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1174.2618 (pause 0.57) 1174.8290 975 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1174.8290 I shoulda want to play it more because me playing center 1177.2836 976 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1177.2836 (pause 1.19) 1178.4734 977 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1178.4734 the average guy that was checking me was bigger and slower. 1180.7456 978 DCB_int_01 1181.2394 Mm-hm. 1181.6474 979 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1181.6998 He saw that as advantage, 1182.9577 980 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1182.9577 (pause 0.18) 1183.1346 981 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1183.1346 I saw it as me not getting the ball all the time. 1184.8437 982 DCB_int_01 1185.0072 Right. 1185.3642 983 DCB_int_01 1185.3642 (pause 0.40) 1185.7646 984 DCB_int_01 1185.7646 [And he] saw it as making you- 1186.9991 985 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1185.7713 [So-] 1186.0073 986 DCB_int_01 1187.1493 giving you [opportunities], yup. 1188.7185 987 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1188.1970 [Yup.] 1188.4472 988 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1188.7375 I- and at a young age, I didn't see it as that. 1190.5362 989 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1190.5362 (pause 0.34) 1190.8771 990 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1190.8771 At all. 1191.2208 991 DCB_int_01 1191.8447 What's your favorite college team? 1192.8607 992 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1193.3295 1193.3862 993 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1193.3862 (pause 0.51) 1193.8934 994 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1193.8934 Uh, I'm a homer. 1194.6875 995 DCB_int_01 1195.7985 Really? 1196.2479 996 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1196.2231 Yes. 1196.6569 997 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1196.7937 All the home teams, Maryland and Georgetown. 1198.6030 998 DCB_int_01 1198.9524 Love it, I [love it.] 1200.1964 999 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1199.7599 [Yeah.] 1200.0068 1000 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1200.4072 That's all sports, I don't- 1201.8219 1001 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1201.8219 (pause 0.50) 1202.3265 1002 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1202.3265 I've never liked another team that's outside of the area. 1204.5254 1003 DCB_int_01 1204.7189 So you're a Wizards fan? 1205.7789 1004 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1205.8934 Definitely. 1206.3307 1005 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1206.3307 (pause 0.34) 1206.6708 1006 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1206.6708 Without a doubt a Wizards fan. 1207.6287 1007 DCB_int_01 1207.7126 So what do you think about the season? 1208.7236 1008 DCB_int_01 1208.7236 (pause 0.57) 1209.2942 1009 DCB_int_01 1209.2942 W- what- think- w- what- what you think gonna happen this- 1211.1960 1010 DCB_int_01 1211.1960 (pause 0.64) 1211.8400 1011 DCB_int_01 1211.8400 Jodie Meeks? 1212.8306 1012 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1213.0979 Yeah, I think they gonna, [um-] 1214.5693 1013 DCB_int_01 1214.3566 [He was] 1214.7436 1014 DCB_int_01 1215.0072 good. I went to the 1215.8647 1015 DCB_int_01 1215.8647 (pause 0.11) 1215.9748 1016 DCB_int_01 1215.9748 preseason game the other day, he was real good. 1217.4029 1017 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1217.6698 Oh you did? 1218.1469 1018 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1218.1469 (pause 0.13) 1218.2737 1019 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1218.2737 [ I'm-] /I haven't ?/ I need to find when is the next [one.] 1220.7395 1020 DCB_int_01 1218.3038 [Yeah.] 1218.5851 1021 DCB_int_01 1218.5851 (pause 1.83) 1220.4200 1022 DCB_int_01 1220.4200 [Go-] 1220.7536 1023 DCB_int_01 1220.9271 go Fri- Friday is Knicks, 1222.6922 1024 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1223.2260 [This Friday?] 1223.8900 1025 DCB_int_01 1223.3028 [and then-] 1223.8334 1026 DCB_int_01 1223.9467 Friday is Knicks and then Sunday is Cleveland. 1226.6861 1027 DCB_int_01 1226.6861 (pause 0.23) 1226.9171 1028 DCB_int_01 1226.9171 And the tickets aren't that bad, I think I'm'a go Sunday, cause I- I gotta [write.] 1230.4100 1029 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1230.1603 [So they] play Cleveland Sunday? 1231.3581 1030 DCB_int_01 1231.8052 Preseason. 1232.4439 1031 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1233.2441 I gotta write that down, I'm going to that game now. 1234.9391 1032 DCB_int_01 1234.8991 Go to StubHub, [Ticketmaster.] 1236.9744 1033 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1236.4339 [I usually go to StubHub], yeah. 1237.5783 1034 DCB_int_01 1237.5783 /??/ 1237.8319 1035 DCB_int_01 1237.8319 (pause 0.32) 1238.1564 1036 DCB_int_01 1238.1564 Cheap. 1238.4934 1037 DCB_int_01 1238.4934 (pause 0.15) 1238.6435 1038 DCB_int_01 1238.6435 I paid 1239.2975 1039 DCB_int_01 1239.2975 (pause 0.35) 1239.6478 1040 DCB_int_01 1239.6478 six bucks 1240.5487 1041 DCB_int_01 1240.5487 (pause 0.16) 1240.7122 1042 DCB_int_01 1240.7122 for tickets. [Um], 1242.2437 1043 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1241.6631 [Mm-hm.] 1242.0498 1044 DCB_int_01 1242.5573 It was a Chinese team on Monday. 1244.2156 1045 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1244.2098 Yeah I- I heard, I heard, [yeah.] 1245.3442 1046 DCB_int_01 1245.1140 [But they] were g- Jodie Meeks showed 1247.0425 1047 DCB_int_01 1247.3428 [out.] 1248.0035 1048 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1247.8667 [Really?] 1248.2337 1049 DCB_int_01 1248.9711 I mean. 1249.5149 1050 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1249.6225 /?/ they beat 'em by like what, thirty or something like [that?] 1251.5911 1051 DCB_int_01 1251.4410 [Yeah], it was kind of- I mean, we coulda [left- we coulda-] 1253.4753 1052 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1252.6855 [] 1254.2704 1053 DCB_int_01 1254.0402 [] 1254.8855 1054 DCB_int_01 1255.5717 we coulda left in third quarter. 1256.9805 1055 DCB_int_01 1256.9805 (pause 0.18) 1257.1607 1056 DCB_int_01 1257.1607 But what do you think about- 1257.9087 1057 DCB_int_01 1257.9087 (pause 0.22) 1258.1316 1058 DCB_int_01 1258.1316 think about the outlook of the season? Think how- how they- h- for you how they end the season and then what you think is gonna happen for this season. 1263.3042 1059 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1263.2942 I think the way they ended the seas- season last year a lot of- a lot of people are 1266.8910 1060 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1267.0612 I guess on the edge of they seats because they coulda easily won 1269.9982 1061 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1269.9982 (pause 0.46) 1270.4586 1062 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1270.4586 and- and went on to the next series and played, um, 1272.6441 1063 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1272.6441 (pause 0.89) 1273.5316 1064 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1273.5316 Cleveland. 1273.9689 1065 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1273.9689 (pause 0.77) 1274.7369 1066 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1274.7369 This year, 1275.3776 1067 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1275.3776 (pause 1.01) 1276.3919 1068 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1276.3919 I still s- 1276.9191 1069 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1276.9191 (pause 0.20) 1277.1159 1070 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1277.1159 I still think they have the same chance. But, 1278.7879 1071 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1278.7879 (pause 0.75) 1279.5349 1072 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1279.5349 you know, Cleveland has restocked, 1280.9038 1073 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1280.9038 (pause 0.15) 1281.0573 1074 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1281.0573 Boston. 1281.8547 1075 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1281.8547 (pause 0.41) 1282.2618 1076 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1282.2618 I mean, all the other teams 1283.4663 1077 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1283.4663 (pause 0.70) 1284.1670 1078 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1284.1670 they lost a lot of good players but they gained a lot of good players as well. 1286.8704 1079 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1286.8704 (pause 0.55) 1287.4176 1080 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1287.4176 I- I think they chances are good. I mean, I was real disappointed last year, though, 1290.2591 1081 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1290.2591 (pause 0.45) 1290.7108 1082 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1290.7108 losing to Boston 1291.4794 1083 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1291.4794 (pause 0.15) 1291.6259 1084 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1291.6259 in Boston /where-/ 1292.4633 1085 DCB_int_01 1292.5067 Game seven? 1293.1507 1086 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1293.5177 Yes. 1293.8614 1087 DCB_int_01 1293.8380 Hm. 1294.1350 1088 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1294.2017 Hurts even more 1295.0292 1089 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1295.0292 (pause 0.80) 1295.8333 1090 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1295.8333 [because it was-] 1296.3204 1091 DCB_int_01 1295.9467 [But game] six was [good.] 1297.6670 1092 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1297.5183 [Yes] it was. I was [at that game too.] 1299.0940 1093 DCB_int_01 1298.4387 [John Wall.] 1299.4610 1094 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1299.6765 I was at that game. 1300.4773 1095 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1300.4773 (pause 0.92) 1301.3957 1096 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1301.3957 But, um, 1302.0797 1097 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1302.0797 (pause 0.47) 1302.5501 1098 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1302.5501 I think their chances are better this year. I mean, that's- it's good to see them making the playoffs every year, because growing up 1307.5283 1099 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1307.5283 (pause 0.15) 1307.6760 1100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1307.6760 watching the Bullets, 1308.4801 1101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1308.4801 (pause 1.03) 1309.5144 1102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1309.5144 you pretty much was going to the arena to watch the other team. 1312.3064 1103 DCB_int_01 1312.5741 Mm-hm. 1312.9144 1104 DCB_int_01 1312.9144 (pause 0.27) 1313.1847 1105 DCB_int_01 1313.1847 Oh. 1313.4591 1106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1314.7070 Because they wasn't that good. 1315.7046 1107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1315.7046 (pause 1.36) 1317.0659 1108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1317.0659 At all. 1317.4763 1109 DCB_int_01 1318.2638 No, but right- so, right when you were born though wasn't that Phil Chenier, wasn't that the year? 1323.4196 1110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1323.4330 Yeah that's [when- well, you know, w- when I was-] 1325.0761 1111 DCB_int_01 1323.9301 [That was- but you were] like, three. 1325.6251 1112 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1325.6318 [Yeah so I didn't know nothing.] 1326.5744 1113 DCB_int_01 1325.8294 [So it- it didn't matter, yeah.] 1327.3472 1114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1326.8604 [I'm talking about] the eighties. 1327.9849 1115 DCB_int_01 1328.4820 When they went just all the way [down hill.] 1330.0869 1116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1329.5831 [Yeah.] 1329.8867 1117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1330.4906 At the Capital Center, yeah I remember that. 1331.9963 1118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1331.9963 (pause 0.60) 1332.6002 1119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1332.6002 Eighties and early nineties. 1333.7280 1120 DCB_int_01 1334.4687 /inaudible/ 1335.2594 1121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1335.2695 Every year, 1335.7366 1122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1335.7366 (pause 0.29) 1336.0235 1123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1336.0235 so. 1336.2738 1124 DCB_int_01 1337.1446 But now there's hope. 1338.0321 1125 DCB_int_01 1338.0321 (pause 0.24) 1338.2699 1126 DCB_int_01 1338.2699 Okay so talk about Bo- but think about Boston, they've re-tooled. 1341.3429 1127 DCB_int_01 1341.3429 (pause 0.12) 1341.4596 1128 DCB_int_01 1341.4596 I'm not sure Kyrie Irving is a better choice than Isaiah Thomas. 1344.9839 1129 DCB_int_01 1344.9839 (pause 0.26) 1345.2408 1130 DCB_int_01 1345.2408 Only because chemistry matters, 1346.6255 1131 DCB_int_01 1346.6255 (pause 0.28) 1346.9024 1132 DCB_int_01 1346.9024 then you got Gordon Hayward coming [and then they] lost some of their defensive prowess. 1350.2022 1133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1348.1470 [Mm-hm.] 1348.4640 1134 DCB_int_01 1350.5301 I don't know. 1351.0673 1135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1351.4377 I- I don't- I don't think Boston is gonna be as good everybody think they are, mainly because 1354.9591 1136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1354.9591 (pause 1.49) 1356.4463 1137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1356.4463 Kyrie is a player that ha- has the w- got to have the ball, that's why he left. 1360.0101 1138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1360.0101 (pause 0.66) 1360.6742 1139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1360.6742 He want the ball in his hands all the time. 1362.2465 1140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1362.2465 (pause 0.52) 1362.7637 1141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1362.7637 And the type of offense that they s- the coach run, Stevens run, 1365.3929 1142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1365.3929 (pause 0.99) 1366.3872 1143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1366.3872 everybody gets the ball. 1367.3048 1144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1367.3048 (pause 0.26) 1367.5659 1145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1367.5659 And then they lost two players, 1368.7804 1146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1368.7804 (pause 0.93) 1369.7146 1147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1369.7146 two good defensive players 1371.0693 1148 DCB_int_01 1371.1627 Mm-hm. 1371.7466 1149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1371.9234 that went to other teams, so the chemistry gonna be off, I think. 1374.2457 1150 DCB_int_01 1374.7537 Yup. 1375.0173 1151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1375.2075 That's why I think it's gonna be a- better for the Wizards right now cause they have the same core players. 1378.8276 1152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1378.8276 (pause 0.53) 1379.3615 1153 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1379.3615 They added a couple players, so 1380.6703 1154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1380.6703 (pause 0.34) 1381.0106 1155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1381.0106 they should be better. 1381.7179 1156 DCB_int_01 1382.6589 What about Cleveland, what you think? 1383.6999 1157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1383.8867 I- man, you know, 1384.9711 1158 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1384.9711 (pause 0.65) 1385.6251 1159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1385.6251 I don't like LeBron but as long as he's playing, he's- 1387.9282 1160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1387.9282 (pause 0.43) 1388.3552 1161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1388.3552 he has to be a favorite. 1389.3295 1162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1389.3295 (pause 0.64) 1389.9668 1163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1389.9668 I mean, that's how good he is. And because 1391.2414 1164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1391.2414 (pause 0.46) 1391.7060 1165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1391.7060 they lost 1392.4801 1166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1392.4801 (pause 0.77) 1393.2508 1167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1393.2508 Kyrie but they gained 1394.5221 1168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1394.5221 (pause 0.64) 1395.1627 1169 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1395.1627 a lot too. 1395.8033 1170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1395.8033 (pause 0.49) 1396.2971 1171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1396.2971 Derrick Rose, 1397.1613 1172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1397.1613 (pause 1.16) 1398.3166 1173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1398.3166 he's gonna [help.] 1398.9605 1174 DCB_int_01 1398.7136 [Sh-] show me what Derrick Rose did in New York 1401.0203 1175 DCB_int_01 1401.4963 to tell me- 1402.2830 1176 DCB_int_01 1402.2830 (pause 0.36) 1402.6408 1177 DCB_int_01 1402.6408 to make me feel better about him being in Cleveland. 1404.8438 1178 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1405.0373 Uh, you know what the biggest difference is gonna be? 1406.9825 1179 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1406.9825 (pause 0.51) 1407.4963 1180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1407.4963 He got somebody that's unselfish that will give him the ball. 1410.1556 1181 DCB_int_01 1410.4067 Who? 1410.6787 1182 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1411.1908 LeBron. 1411.6145 1183 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1411.6145 (pause 1.48) 1413.0926 1184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1413.0926 Whereas though 1413.8133 1185 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1413.8133 (pause 0.27) 1414.0860 1186 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1414.0860 /???/ New York, everybody, their whole offense was based off one on one playing, one on one, um, when they got the ball. 1419.2861 1187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1419.2861 (pause 0.18) 1419.4663 1188 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1419.4663 Carmelo, 1420.0102 1189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1420.0102 (pause 1.58) 1421.5951 1190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1421.5951 he has that /unintelligible/ (laughing) 1422.6436 1191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1422.6436 (pause 0.41) 1423.0573 1192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1423.0573 He's a ball hog. 1423.7413 1193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1423.7413 (pause 0.14) 1423.8848 1194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1423.8848 He's good, but he's a ball hog. 1425.0726 1195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1425.0726 (pause 0.56) 1425.6331 1196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1425.6331 Whereas though in Cleveland, I mean, they got a lot of players. Everybody just gonna get their touches. 1428.7737 1197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1428.7737 (pause 0.53) 1429.3009 1198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1429.3009 That's why Kyrie- I mean, guess why Kyrie left, cause he wants to be the person 1432.5474 1199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1432.5474 (pause 0.82) 1433.3715 1200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1433.3715 who has the ball in his hands at all times. 1435.1474 1201 DCB_int_01 1437.2428 Cleveland looks good on paper, right? You got Derrick Rose, you got LeBron, you got 1441.2175 1202 DCB_int_01 1441.2175 (pause 0.27) 1441.4877 1203 DCB_int_01 1441.4877 D Wade. 1442.1584 1204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1442.2651 Isaiah Thomas. 1443.0459 1205 DCB_int_01 1444.7042 But when you put all that- 1445.8294 1206 DCB_int_01 1445.8294 (pause 0.29) 1446.1164 1207 DCB_int_01 1446.1164 but now 1446.6769 1208 DCB_int_01 1446.6769 (pause 0.21) 1446.8838 1209 DCB_int_01 1446.8838 to me sometimes [having too] much superstar 1449.1226 1210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1447.7179 [] 1448.1517 1211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1449.2194 Mm-hm. 1449.5330 1212 DCB_int_01 1449.4897 power, 1450.0169 1213 DCB_int_01 1450.7909 that's too many- 1451.4049 1214 DCB_int_01 1451.4049 (pause 0.18) 1451.5892 1215 DCB_int_01 1451.5892 that's too many cooks in the kitchen. 1453.2575 1216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1453.3776 Uh, y- know what, you're absolutely right because it g- it might get to a point your team has no identity at all. 1458.1523 1217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1458.1523 (pause 0.62) 1458.7770 1218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1458.7770 Prime example when the Lakers had Karl Malone, 1461.0225 1219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1461.0225 (pause 0.24) 1461.2628 1220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1461.2628 Gary Payton, and all- Kobe and Shaq. 1463.6459 1221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1463.6459 (pause 0.44) 1464.0897 1222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1464.0897 They got swept by the Pistons in the playoffs. 1465.8681 1223 DCB_int_01 1465.8748 Because 1466.2284 1224 DCB_int_01 1466.2284 (pause 0.29) 1466.5154 1225 DCB_int_01 1466.5154 everybody wanted to be the guy. 1468.2204 1226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1468.2104 Yup, 1468.4773 1227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1468.5874 and it don't work all the time. 1469.6151 1228 DCB_int_01 1469.7218 Mm-mm. 1470.2590 1229 DCB_int_01 1470.2590 (pause 0.27) 1470.5268 1230 DCB_int_01 1470.5268 That's why they had that whole- Think about when John Wall and Bradley Beal kind of had they little 1473.7533 1231 DCB_int_01 1473.7533 (pause 0.28) 1474.0369 1232 DCB_int_01 1474.0369 tiff, [right?] 1474.6375 1233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1474.5073 [Yeah.] 1474.7843 1234 DCB_int_01 1475.1179 But then when Bradley Beal conceded and said, this is John Wall's team, 1478.0116 1235 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1478.0316 Mm-hm. 1478.3753 1236 DCB_int_01 1478.3452 but we the- we're the back court, 1479.9692 1237 DCB_int_01 1480.9144 think about where they went after that. 1483.3176 1238 DCB_int_01 1483.3176 (pause 1.05) 1484.3686 1239 DCB_int_01 1484.3686 Cleveland, 1485.0125 1240 DCB_int_01 1485.0125 (pause 0.31) 1485.3195 1241 DCB_int_01 1485.3195 they all over the place, [it's a mess.] 1487.3448 1242 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1486.4306 [Yes they are.] 1487.0919 1243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1487.7252 I don't- I- 1488.0522 1244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1488.0522 (pause 0.40) 1488.4500 1245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1488.4500 I think it might- I mean, just cause LeBron on the team I think it might work, but 1491.4763 1246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1491.4763 (pause 0.20) 1491.6732 1247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1491.6732 can the Wizards beat 'em? 1492.5207 1248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1492.5207 (pause 0.33) 1492.8477 1249 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1492.8477 I think so. 1493.4991 1250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1493.4991 (pause 0.66) 1494.1631 1251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1494.1631 I hope so. 1494.6938 1252 DCB_int_01 1494.7270 I think they're vulnerable, I think they're vulnerable more than they've been in the last couple of [years.] 1498.9578 1253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1498.4673 [They coulda beat] 'em last year I think. 1499.7886 1254 DCB_int_01 1499.8753 I think so too. 1500.5368 1255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1500.6603 Better match up than Boston- (laughing) [Boston was.] 1502.5955 1256 DCB_int_01 1502.1083 [That February] game was [crazy.] 1505.0912 1257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1504.4640 [Yes it was], yeah. 1505.5413 1258 DCB_int_01 1505.8286 Were you there? 1506.3533 1259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1506.3533 Mm, nah I didn't go to that game, I wish I was though. 1508.4754 1260 DCB_int_01 1508.6555 I had a 1509.1994 1261 DCB_int_01 1509.1994 (pause 0.21) 1509.4063 1262 DCB_int_01 1509.4063 dinner that night so I couldn't go but we watched, it was crazy. 1513.3433 1263 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1513.5978 And then they- 1514.1884 1264 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1514.1884 (pause 0.09) 1514.2818 1265 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1514.2818 couple of months- like a month later they went to Cleveland, 1516.2704 1266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1516.2704 (pause 0.15) 1516.4206 1267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1516.4206 b- beat the brakes off /of 'em/. 1517.7212 1268 DCB_int_01 1518.6269 [Yup.] 1518.9038 1269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1518.7003 [So.] 1519.0643 1270 DCB_int_01 1519.5878 What about the Redskins? 1520.8557 1271 DCB_int_01 1520.8557 (pause 0.43) 1521.2828 1272 DCB_int_01 1521.2828 Tell me- 1521.6331 1273 DCB_int_01 1521.6331 (pause 0.19) 1521.8267 1274 DCB_int_01 1521.8267 talk about- talk about football. Cause football is [your heart, it seems.] 1525.2341 1275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1523.9596 Y- yeah, it is], it is. 1526.0142 1276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1526.6122 I- um, 1527.2461 1277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1527.2461 (pause 1.90) 1529.1421 1278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1529.1421 I mean, they're better this year, especially de- on the defensive side, cause the def- defense has been terrible 1533.7466 1279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1533.7466 (pause 0.86) 1534.6041 1280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1534.6041 for the last 1535.1746 1281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1535.1746 (pause 0.23) 1535.4090 1282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1535.4090 what, decade probably. 1536.6135 1283 DCB_int_01 1536.5902 1537.6312 1284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1537.5878 But I think- 1538.3798 1285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1539.6231 I think they have a good chance this year because it's no like, super team this year. 1542.6073 1286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1542.6073 (pause 0.68) 1543.2909 1287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1543.2909 Everybody's losing to everybody. 1544.6288 1288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1544.6288 (pause 0.66) 1545.2928 1289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1545.2928 But I think the games that's coming up they gotta take advantage of 1548.1598 1290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1548.1598 (pause 0.79) 1548.9472 1291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1548.9472 and win. 1549.4143 1292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1549.4143 (pause 0.37) 1549.7847 1293 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1549.7847 Cause they play what, the forty-niners? 1551.1780 1294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1551.1780 (pause 1.05) 1552.2271 1295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1552.2271 Game like that they should be dominate- And it's good that they have a bye this week 1555.0440 1296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1555.0440 (pause 0.52) 1555.5611 1297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1555.5611 all the injuries they got. 1556.6422 1298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1556.6422 (pause 1.31) 1557.9501 1299 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1557.9501 I think they should make the playoffs. Do I think they gonna go far 1560.6954 1300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1560.6954 (pause 0.08) 1560.7755 1301 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1560.7755 with the team they got? 1561.5578 1302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1561.5578 (pause 0.25) 1561.8114 1303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1561.8114 I don't know yet. 1562.3567 1304 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1562.3567 (pause 1.19) 1563.5431 1305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1563.5431 Cause them- it's the same thing with them. 1565.3217 1306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1565.3217 (pause 0.11) 1565.4291 1307 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1565.4291 They don't have no identity 1566.4734 1308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1566.4734 (pause 0.81) 1567.2842 1309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1567.2842 at all. 1567.6808 1310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1567.6808 (pause 0.24) 1567.9215 1311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1567.9215 Especially offense. 1568.8424 1312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1568.8424 (pause 0.61) 1569.4563 1313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1569.4563 Don't know if they a passing team or running team. 1570.9478 1314 DCB_int_01 1572.5935 Mm. 1572.9972 1315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1573.3342 They just do both good. None- neither one of 'em they do well, just 1576.3005 1316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1576.3005 (pause 0.18) 1576.4806 1317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1576.4806 average at both. 1577.1687 1318 DCB_int_01 1578.0221 Are you a season ticket holder? 1579.0006 1319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1579.1674 No, I'm not. 1579.5974 1320 DCB_int_01 1581.1460 Hm. 1581.3829 1321 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1581.5998 I- I prefer to watch- 1582.6174 1322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1582.6174 (pause 0.91) 1583.5283 1323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1583.5283 I- I went to the- um, 1584.7403 1324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1584.7403 (pause 1.06) 1585.8014 1325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1585.8014 the Redskin game when they played Oakland, 1587.3729 1326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1587.3729 (pause 0.98) 1588.3538 1327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1588.3538 like [two weeks] ago. 1589.1272 1328 DCB_int_01 1588.4806 [Mm-hm.] 1588.7843 1329 DCB_int_01 1589.2647 Mm-hm. 1589.6551 1330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1589.8328 I had a good time, but for football 1591.3342 1331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1591.3342 (pause 0.88) 1592.2118 1332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1592.2118 I prefer- I guess cause you get a better feel for the game by actually looking at it on TV. 1596.3491 1333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1596.3491 (pause 0.16) 1596.5134 1334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1596.5134 I prefer to watch football on TV. 1597.7780 1335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1597.7780 (pause 0.64) 1598.4220 1336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1598.4220 Basketball game, I gotta be there. 1599.9101 1337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1599.9101 (pause 1.60) 1601.5125 1338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1601.5125 You can see everything, whereas though on TV, with the basketball- 1604.5797 1339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1604.5797 (pause 0.20) 1604.7790 1340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1604.7790 basketball game you- 1605.5264 1341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1605.5264 (pause 0.48) 1606.0102 1342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1606.0102 you miss a lot. 1606.6742 1343 DCB_int_01 1607.5558 [Cause they show you] what they wanna sh- 1608.8971 1344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1607.5592 [/??/] 1608.0497 1345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1608.0497 (pause 0.84) 1608.8938 1346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1608.8938 Pretty much, [yeah.] 1609.7647 1347 DCB_int_01 1609.4677 [Yup.] 1609.7597 1348 DCB_int_01 1610.3386 [And you miss all] that could be [happening.] 1612.1703 1349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1610.3652 [Pretty much.] 1610.8524 1350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1610.8524 (pause 1.04) 1611.8901 1351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1611.8901 [Yup.] 1612.1803 1352 DCB_int_01 1612.9377 I've- 1613.1313 1353 DCB_int_01 1613.1313 (pause 0.16) 1613.2881 1354 DCB_int_01 1613.2881 I've- 1613.5417 1355 DCB_int_01 1613.5417 (pause 0.40) 1613.9396 1356 DCB_int_01 1613.9396 So sometimes like I go to the basketball game and then I'll go ho- Like, when I don't have anything to do [which is] not often, 1618.2037 1357 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1617.3262 [Mm-hm.] 1617.6182 1358 DCB_int_01 1618.5741 but I'll go home and rewatch the game, [and I'm] like, oh my god that felt so different being there cause you see it from a totally [different angle.] 1625.1112 1359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1620.1664 [Mm-hm.] 1620.4801 1360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1620.4801 (pause 3.73) 1624.2104 1361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1624.2104 [/??/ I ain't know you was] into, um, [sports-] 1626.3500 1362 DCB_int_01 1625.9262 [Oh I'm a-] I'm a [basketball- I'm a-] 1627.6579 1363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1626.7503 [basketball fanat-] 1627.6546 1364 DCB_int_01 1627.9649 Oh, we can talk basketball all day. 1629.4096 1365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1629.6098 I did not know that. 1630.2037 1366 DCB_int_01 1630.1870 I am a basket- I am a Wizards fan. 1632.3491 1367 DCB_int_01 1632.6603 After the Wizards I'm a Spurs fan because I was a Timmy fan. 1635.6069 1368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1635.6065 Oh yeah. 1636.0569 1369 DCB_int_01 1636.2804 Um, 1637.4349 1370 DCB_int_01 1637.4349 (pause 0.30) 1637.7352 1371 DCB_int_01 1637.7352 and I'm a Popovich fan. 1639.1432 1372 DCB_int_01 1639.1432 (pause 0.48) 1639.6279 1373 DCB_int_01 1639.6279 Um, I lo- but I also love the Warriors. 1641.7065 1374 DCB_int_01 1641.7065 (pause 0.26) 1641.9668 1375 DCB_int_01 1641.9668 Like, 1642.3105 1376 DCB_int_01 1642.3105 (pause 0.64) 1642.9544 1377 DCB_int_01 1642.9544 if it's Warriors and- if it's Warriors and Cavaliers I will go Warriors all day. I'm- cause I'm not a LeBron fan. I am- I'm a LeBron hater because I think LeBron is a- too much of a LeBron fan. 1651.7613 1378 DCB_int_01 1651.7613 (pause 0.35) 1652.1117 1379 DCB_int_01 1652.1117 I don't like people like [that.] 1653.1427 1380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1652.8023 [Oh that's-] that's obvious, that's- 1654.0402 1381 DCB_int_01 1654.3939 I don't- but I don't like people like [that.] 1656.1289 1382 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1655.8228 [Yeah.] 1656.1481 1383 DCB_int_01 1656.4234 And I love Golden Sta- I love that nobody is over themselves and nobody is good enough that they can't step back 1662.3525 1384 DCB_int_01 1662.3525 (pause 0.21) 1662.5635 1385 DCB_int_01 1662.5635 for the good of the team. 1663.6913 1386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1663.7413 Mm-hm. 1664.0960 1387 DCB_int_01 1664.1917 And so I appreciate that, because it's about- at the end of the day it's about the team. [And you can] take all the individual accolades, 1669.3815 1388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1667.4457 [Mm-hm.] 1667.7827 1389 DCB_int_01 1669.7246 and they do that, because it's about the team. 1672.2076 1390 DCB_int_01 1672.2076 (pause 0.19) 1672.3972 1391 DCB_int_01 1672.3972 And so when your team is the better- when your team is better, 1674.8638 1392 DCB_int_01 1674.8638 (pause 0.82) 1675.6846 1393 DCB_int_01 1675.6846 the individual performances will ps- 1677.4296 1394 DCB_int_01 1677.4296 (pause 0.19) 1677.6165 1395 DCB_int_01 1677.6165 will shine. 1678.2471 1396 DCB_int_01 1678.2471 (pause 0.82) 1679.0712 1397 DCB_int_01 1679.0712 That's why I don't like- 1679.7819 1398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1679.8928 Yeah. 1680.2488 1399 DCB_int_01 1680.3333 I'm not a LeBron fan any day of the week. 1682.1384 1400 DCB_int_01 1682.1384 (pause 0.61) 1682.7456 1401 DCB_int_01 1682.7456 But oh we can talk basketball all day. 1684.1036 1402 DCB_int_01 1684.1036 (pause 0.47) 1684.5707 1403 DCB_int_01 1684.5707 Okay, but [I know we not gon-] 1685.7627 1404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1685.0846 [Yeah, yeah.] 1685.7886 1405 DCB_int_01 1686.0296 So let's- [we'll move] on, so- 1687.6656 1406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1686.5969 [] 1687.0173 1407 DCB_int_01 1687.7813 so tell me about- um, 1689.6065 1408 DCB_int_01 1689.6065 (pause 0.90) 1690.5040 1409 DCB_int_01 1690.5040 So when- when the- the season really starts we will be 1692.5235 1410 DCB_int_01 1692.5235 (pause 0.36) 1692.8838 1411 DCB_int_01 1692.8838 most definitely talking about- 1693.9015 1412 DCB_int_01 1693.9015 (pause 0.16) 1694.0583 1413 DCB_int_01 1694.0583 So /RD-NAME-2/ and I used to talk about the games, 1695.8567 1414 DCB_int_01 1695.8567 (pause 0.60) 1696.4606 1415 DCB_int_01 1696.4606 um, after- after the [games.] 1698.1022 1416 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1697.9020 [Oh yeah? /How did I not know that?/] 1699.2742 1417 DCB_int_01 1698.2899 [Yeah, like the day after] we would always talk about the games. 1701.1593 1418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1701.1293 I heard you bef- before but I didn't know you was that like into basketball [/inaudible/] 1704.5928 1419 DCB_int_01 1704.0697 [Like I'm-] 1704.5802 1420 DCB_int_01 1704.7270 cause I'm also a sta- I do data, so I'm also- [But stats-] 1707.4730 1421 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1706.6222 [Well yeah.] 1707.2574 1422 DCB_int_01 1707.7199 but I love [stats. So] I think basketball has some of the most interesting [stats.] 1711.6746 1423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1708.8009 [Mm-hm.] 1709.1343 1424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1709.1343 (pause 2.36) 1711.4977 1425 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1711.4977 [Mm-hm.] 1711.8644 1426 DCB_int_01 1711.9815 And I love like, percentages, I love just- 1714.7629 1427 DCB_int_01 1714.7629 (pause 0.28) 1715.0445 1428 DCB_int_01 1715.0445 The numbers part of it is fascinating to [me too.] 1717.1040 1429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1716.6703 [Yeah.] 1716.9906 1430 DCB_int_01 1717.7213 Um, but anyway. 1718.7906 1431 DCB_int_01 1718.7906 (pause 0.42) 1719.2127 1432 DCB_int_01 1719.2127 Um, so tell me a little bit about your family. 1721.0846 1433 DCB_int_01 1721.0846 (pause 0.40) 1721.4824 1434 DCB_int_01 1721.4824 Do you think- are you a close family or y'all kind of- 1723.6279 1435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1723.8014 /RD-NAME-2/ I tell you. 1724.5855 1436 DCB_int_01 1724.8855 1725.6484 1437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1726.3338 I think- 1726.8112 1438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1726.8112 (pause 0.66) 1727.4716 1439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1727.4716 and I- 1728.0764 1440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1728.0764 (pause 0.14) 1728.2165 1441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1728.2165 I'm not saying it just because it's my family, 1729.8645 1442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1729.8645 (pause 0.37) 1730.2318 1443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1730.2318 I don't think it's /?/ a family on this planet that's close as we are. 1733.0111 1444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1733.0111 (pause 0.79) 1733.8053 1445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1733.8053 We have gatherings 1734.9439 1446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1734.9439 (pause 0.12) 1735.0640 1447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1735.0640 all the time, 1736.0216 1448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1736.0216 (pause 1.69) 1737.7099 1449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1737.7099 at somebody's house. 1738.7876 1450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1738.7876 (pause 0.73) 1739.5158 1451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1739.5158 We have a family reunion every year. 1740.7804 1452 DCB_int_01 1741.4710 Wow. 1741.7280 1453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1741.9482 Since 1742.5654 1454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1742.5654 (pause 0.20) 1742.7690 1455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1742.7690 the eighties, we haven't missed a year yet. 1744.4406 1456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1744.4406 (pause 1.16) 1745.6051 1457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1745.6051 We have a family reunion every year, either it's- it's here, 1747.8281 1458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1747.8281 (pause 0.58) 1748.4120 1459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1748.4120 in DC or it's in South Carolina. But the last couple years we have it at- 1752.0121 1460 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1752.0121 (pause 0.29) 1752.3032 1461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1752.3032 we had it at Myrtle Beach one year. 1753.6245 1462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1753.6245 (pause 1.05) 1754.6755 1463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1754.6755 We had it at Ocean City. 1755.6031 1464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1755.6031 (pause 0.52) 1756.1203 1465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1756.1203 We've had a family reunion every year. 1757.6685 1466 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1757.6685 (pause 0.27) 1757.9362 1467 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1757.9362 My cousins, you- sometimes people think we're br- like brothers and sisters. 1760.8557 1468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1760.8557 (pause 0.36) 1761.2161 1469 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1761.2161 Or brothers 1761.8767 1470 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1761.8767 (pause 0.63) 1762.5073 1471 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1762.5073 period. 1762.8877 1472 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1762.8877 (pause 0.81) 1763.7027 1473 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1763.7027 Family is really really close. 1765.1107 1474 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1765.1107 (pause 0.54) 1765.6546 1475 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1765.6546 Really close. 1766.4946 1476 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1766.4946 (pause 0.43) 1766.9291 1477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1766.9291 And that's- 1767.4411 1478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1767.4411 (pause 1.47) 1768.9077 1479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1768.9077 I have a huge family here in the DMV area, 1771.2686 1480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1771.2686 (pause 0.75) 1772.0149 1481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1772.0149 and I have a huge family- 1773.2161 1482 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1773.2161 (pause 0.15) 1773.3696 1483 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1773.3696 And this- well, this is my mother's side. 1774.7122 1484 DCB_int_01 1774.8577 Mm-hm. 1775.2310 1485 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1776.0096 And, um, my family's huge in South Carolina, 1778.6722 1486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1778.6722 (pause 0.47) 1779.1427 1487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1779.1427 I'm not that close 1780.0435 1488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1780.0435 (pause 0.15) 1780.1937 1489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1780.1937 to my fam- my father's side of the family. It's- I know a couple people with them, but not- 1783.6712 1490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1783.6712 (pause 0.85) 1784.5187 1491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1784.5187 [not that many.] 1785.1126 1492 DCB_int_01 1784.6255 [But you're not close] to him, so that- 1786.0502 1493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1786.0335 No. Well m- cause my father passed like, 1787.5417 1494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1789.1774 two thousand and- 1790.1851 1495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1790.1851 (pause 0.16) 1790.3486 1496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1790.3486 probably four years ago now, 1791.3472 1497 DCB_int_01 1791.5064 Mm. 1791.7666 1498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1792.3772 so. 1792.7409 1499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1792.7409 (pause 0.76) 1793.4983 1500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1793.4983 But- 1793.8219 1501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1793.8219 (pause 0.51) 1794.3333 1502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1794.3333 but my mother's side of the family we are really really close. We just had a gathering matter of fact, this past Saturday. 1798.9444 1503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1798.9444 (pause 0.87) 1799.8119 1504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1799.8119 And my cousin she just moved into a house. 1801.3876 1505 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1801.3876 (pause 0.48) 1801.8714 1506 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1801.8714 So she had a cookout 1802.7456 1507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1802.7456 (pause 1.45) 1804.1970 1508 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1804.1970 in the wind. 1805.0712 1509 DCB_int_01 1805.3381 Oh y'all celebrate anything. Y'all celebrate cause [it's Tuesday.] 1807.6168 1510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1806.9706 [Pretty much.] 1807.4265 1511 DCB_int_01 1807.7246 Oh [we gonna celebrate.] 1808.5354 1512 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1807.9315 [Uh, yeah.] 1808.4720 1513 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1808.8724 Yeah, cookout, um, because if she move or 1811.7497 1514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1811.7497 (pause 0.51) 1812.2599 1515 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1812.2599 what- what's another thing? 1813.2141 1516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1813.2141 (pause 0.97) 1814.1884 1517 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1814.1884 Somebody like- 1814.8157 1518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1814.8157 (pause 0.47) 1815.2895 1519 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1815.2895 some- my- well my cousin could call my aunt, 1817.1112 1520 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1817.1112 (pause 0.18) 1817.2948 1521 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1817.2948 I mean, call my mother and be like, w- what you doing Saturday, and we're like, nothing. 1819.8581 1522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1819.8581 (pause 0.66) 1820.5221 1523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1820.5221 Oh we- we gonna come over there. 1821.5431 1524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1821.5431 (pause 0.82) 1822.3639 1525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1822.3639 We turns into 1823.4883 1526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1823.4883 (pause 0.17) 1823.6618 1527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1823.6618 him, 1823.9988 1528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1823.9988 (pause 0.39) 1824.3900 1529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1824.3900 his wife, 1824.9339 1530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1824.9339 (pause 0.67) 1825.6045 1531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1825.6045 my brother and sisters, 1826.6459 1532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1826.6459 (pause 0.34) 1826.9858 1533 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1826.9858 his brother and sist- /well/ his sisters, 1828.7542 1534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1828.7542 (pause 0.64) 1829.3982 1535 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1829.3982 uh, my other cousins. 1830.6736 1536 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1830.6736 (pause 0.71) 1831.3876 1537 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1831.3876 And then it's just like a spur of the moment, never planned. 1833.3295 1538 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1833.3295 (pause 0.76) 1834.0936 1539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1834.0936 And it happens all the time. 1835.2781 1540 DCB_int_01 1836.5101 Do [y'all go to] church? 1837.5444 1541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1836.6202 [We'll-] 1836.9669 1542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1838.3386 Together, no. Separately, yes, for the most part, majority of 'em. Especially in South Carolina, they live church down there. 1844.1650 1543 DCB_int_01 1844.4520 Mm. 1844.8224 1544 DCB_int_01 1844.8224 (pause 0.78) 1845.5998 1545 DCB_int_01 1845.5998 [Do y'all do] like after church Sunday like, Sunday dinner 1847.7652 1546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1845.6265 [Yeah.] 1845.8500 1547 DCB_int_01 1847.9362 type thing? 1848.4133 1548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1848.4033 Uh, 1849.0840 1549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1849.3509 we used to, we haven't done that lately. Cause usually 1851.7533 1550 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1851.7533 (pause 1.10) 1852.8510 1551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1852.8510 if we have a gathering it's on like a Friday or Saturday. 1854.9286 1552 DCB_int_01 1855.1340 Mm-hm. 1855.5567 1553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1855.6412 We used to have Sunday dinner though. 1856.9258 1554 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1856.9258 (pause 0.10) 1857.0259 1555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1857.0259 And f- 1857.3529 1556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1857.3529 (pause 0.15) 1857.5064 1557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1857.5064 everybody used to call it that still do. 1858.9744 1558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1858.9744 (pause 0.57) 1859.5483 1559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1859.5483 At like my mom's house or my aunt's house. 1861.3042 1560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1861.3042 (pause 0.39) 1861.6913 1561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1861.6913 We haven't done that in a while though. 1862.7289 1562 DCB_int_01 1863.4830 So you recently got married. 1864.8110 1563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1864.8477 Yup. 1865.1313 1564 DCB_int_01 1865.2622 How'd you meet your fian- or, your wife now, but how'd you meet? 1867.8848 1565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1866.1623 1866.2173 1566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1869.0597 Um, 1869.7937 1567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1869.7937 (pause 0.14) 1869.9305 1568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1869.9305 sh- 1870.5111 1569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1870.5111 (pause 0.15) 1870.6579 1570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1870.6579 I been knowing her since like, the nineties. She's like one of my sister friends 1873.4873 1571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1873.4873 (pause 1.35) 1874.8386 1572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1874.8386 that- 1875.2013 1573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1875.2013 (pause 0.73) 1875.9272 1574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1875.9272 It's- it's funny because (laughing) 1877.5584 1575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1877.5584 (pause 1.35) 1878.9067 1576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1878.9067 growing up- She's a little bit younger than me, like probably 1880.9262 1577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1880.9262 (pause 0.18) 1881.1097 1578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1881.1097 three years younger than me. 1881.8950 1579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1881.8950 (pause 0.71) 1882.6078 1580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1882.6078 But growing up, 1883.2585 1581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1883.2585 (pause 1.05) 1884.3062 1582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1884.3062 uh, her and like, a couple of my other sister friends probably used to like /me./ 1887.1364 1583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1887.1364 (pause 0.26) 1887.4000 1584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1887.4000 Sister hated it. 1888.0840 1585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1888.0840 (pause 1.69) 1889.7790 1586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1889.7790 Sister hated it when they used to come over like, where your brother at? 1892.1947 1587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1892.1947 (pause 0.58) 1892.7719 1588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1892.7719 Where's your brother? 1893.3733 1589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1893.3733 (pause 0.56) 1893.9338 1590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1893.9338 Sister be like, why? 1894.7213 1591 DCB_int_01 1895.0292 1895.5200 1592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1896.0192 I mean, of course, you know, you got a sibling. You is like, /??/ you don't want nobody messing with your brother and sister, I mean, because that's your brother and sister. 1901.3546 1593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1901.3546 (pause 0.86) 1902.2173 1594 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1902.2173 The first expression on your face like, 1903.9344 1595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1903.9344 (pause 0.16) 1904.0912 1596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1904.0912 ew, why- why you wanna, um, get involved with my brother and sister? But 1906.9115 1597 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1906.9115 (pause 0.50) 1907.4086 1598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1907.4086 what happened was 1908.3529 1599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1908.3529 (pause 1.29) 1909.6475 1600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1909.6475 that a couple a years ago- 1910.8086 1601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1910.8086 (pause 1.07) 1911.8805 1602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1911.8805 cause her family and my family know each other. 1913.4954 1603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1913.4954 (pause 1.05) 1914.5431 1604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1914.5431 Um, 1915.1370 1605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1915.1370 (pause 0.20) 1915.3338 1606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1915.3338 her mom had a gathering 1916.5791 1607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1916.5791 (pause 0.38) 1916.9562 1608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1916.9562 at her house. And my sister went but I didn't know nothing about it. 1919.1202 1609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1919.1202 (pause 0.74) 1919.8591 1610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1919.8591 So, 1920.3562 1611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1920.3562 (pause 1.51) 1921.8643 1612 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1921.8643 I think she hit me on f- 1922.8030 1613 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1922.8030 (pause 0.15) 1922.9496 1614 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1922.9496 on Facebook or 1924.1407 1615 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1924.1407 (pause 0.71) 1924.8514 1616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1924.8514 she text me or something, asked what I was doing, 1926.5164 1617 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1926.5164 (pause 0.38) 1926.8967 1618 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1926.8967 to come past it. 1927.6308 1619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1927.6308 (pause 0.21) 1927.8443 1620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1927.8443 I went over there, 1928.6216 1621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1928.6216 (pause 0.99) 1929.6069 1622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1929.6069 course we had fun, 1930.4844 1623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1930.4844 (pause 0.35) 1930.8381 1624 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1930.8381 we exchanged numbers, we been talking every since. 1932.9044 1625 DCB_int_01 1934.3348 Hm. 1934.5950 1626 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1935.0522 Yup. 1935.2901 1627 DCB_int_01 1936.0773 Tell me about the wedding. 1936.9982 1628 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1937.7623 Wedding was nice. 1938.6396 1629 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1938.6396 (pause 0.57) 1939.2070 1630 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1939.2070 The wedding was nice. 1939.8684 1631 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1939.8684 (pause 0.21) 1940.0745 1632 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1940.0745 I didn't plan anything with it, 1941.5535 1633 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1941.5535 (pause 0.37) 1941.9238 1634 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1941.9238 neither did I wanna have anything to do with- (laughing) [] 1944.1393 1635 DCB_int_01 1943.8457 [] 1944.8734 1636 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1945.5707 I didn't wanna have anything to do with the planning, 1947.2452 1637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1947.2452 (pause 0.64) 1947.8838 1638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1947.8838 cause her sister is a- um, 1949.4420 1639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1949.4420 (pause 0.93) 1950.3729 1640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1950.3729 that's what she does on the side, 1951.5173 1641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1951.5173 (pause 0.38) 1951.9010 1642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1951.9010 like planning and events and stuff like that. 1953.6169 1643 DCB_int_01 1953.5768 Oh. 1953.8304 1644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1954.1808 So she helped her. 1955.0950 1645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1955.0950 (pause 0.91) 1956.0059 1646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1956.0059 And like all the- um, 1957.5340 1647 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1957.5340 (pause 0.67) 1958.2047 1648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1958.2047 1958.3181 1649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1958.3181 (pause 0.19) 1958.5058 1650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1958.5058 the decorations, 1959.7303 1651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1959.7303 (pause 0.37) 1960.1040 1652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1960.1040 um, 1960.7613 1653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1960.7613 (pause 2.44) 1963.2037 1654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1963.2037 um, 1963.7876 1655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1963.7876 (pause 0.09) 1963.8810 1656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1963.8810 the tablecloths and everything, 1965.1557 1657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1965.1557 (pause 0.28) 1965.4334 1658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1965.4334 her and her sister pl- uh, picked everything. 1966.9649 1659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1966.9649 (pause 0.56) 1967.5287 1660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1967.5287 And decorated everything. 1968.5497 1661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1968.5497 (pause 1.46) 1970.0078 1662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1970.0078 I didn't take no part in the planning process. Neither did I want to. But it- it turned out really really nice though. 1973.9758 1663 DCB_int_01 1974.1327 How many people were there? 1974.9468 1664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1976.0378 Um, 1977.5602 1665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1977.5602 (pause 1.83) 1979.3886 1666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1979.3886 maybe a h- 1980.0473 1667 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1980.0473 (pause 1.15) 1981.1970 1668 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1981.1970 close to a hundred. 1981.8944 1669 DCB_int_01 1982.2247 Oh that's a good size. [That's] a- 1983.6703 1670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1983.3166 [Yeah.] 1983.5168 1671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1983.8137 Well I didn't- that's the number I didn't wanna go over. 1985.5121 1672 DCB_int_01 1985.6589 That's enough. 1986.4596 1673 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1986.4229 Yeah, it is. 1987.1570 1674 DCB_int_01 1987.4973 Cause you get past that and it's just too much. 1989.3091 1675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1989.2832 Yeah, pretty much. I mean, cause you don't wanna get to a point where your- um, 1992.0025 1676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1993.4473 your wedding is about how many people you bring 1995.3499 1677 DCB_int_01 1995.6035 Mm-hm. 1996.0706 1678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1996.3943 to the wedding. 1996.9682 1679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1996.9682 (pause 0.27) 1997.2351 1680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1997.2351 Because that 1997.6822 1681 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1997.6822 (pause 0.68) 1998.3629 1682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 1998.3629 gets expensive 1999.0402 1683 DCB_int_01 1999.2337 Very much so. 1999.8431 1684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2000.0579 So, no. 2000.6693 1685 DCB_int_01 2001.3866 Very much so. 2001.9639 1686 DCB_int_01 2001.9639 (pause 0.12) 2002.0807 1687 DCB_int_01 2002.0807 Do you have kids? 2002.8060 1688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2003.0216 /Wes/, one. 2003.5821 1689 DCB_int_01 2004.3862 Girl or boy? 2004.8934 1690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2005.0936 Girl, she's fifteen. 2006.5202 1691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2006.5202 (pause 0.90) 2007.4200 1692 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2007.4200 Turns sixteen 2008.3709 1693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2008.3709 (pause 0.30) 2008.6746 1694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2008.6746 next year, in August. 2009.6388 1695 DCB_int_01 2010.2061 2010.3162 1696 DCB_int_01 2010.3162 (pause 1.18) 2011.4973 1697 DCB_int_01 2011.4973 Does she have you wrapped around her little finger? 2012.9387 1698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2012.9729 Um. 2013.7837 1699 DCB_int_01 2013.6806 Yeah, she does, that's- [that's a yes.] 2015.5177 1700 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2014.4810 [Yeah /thanks/ yeah], I'd rather hear somebody else say /unintelligible/ 2017.2971 1701 DCB_int_01 2017.4906 That's a yes. 2018.2414 1702 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2018.1880 Yeah, she does, 2018.8720 1703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2018.9796 I'm not gonna lie. 2019.5942 1704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2019.5942 (pause 0.87) 2020.4677 1705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2020.4677 I love her to pieces though. Mainly because 2022.2394 1706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2022.2394 (pause 0.90) 2023.1370 1707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2023.1370 I know, 2023.6575 1708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2023.6575 (pause 1.37) 2025.0230 1709 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2025.0230 um, 2025.6763 1710 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2025.6763 (pause 0.37) 2026.0473 1711 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2026.0473 society has changed. 2027.4887 1712 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2027.4887 (pause 0.78) 2028.2695 1713 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2028.2695 Like kids her age, uh, 2029.8434 1714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2029.8434 (pause 1.40) 2031.2432 1715 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2031.2432 fifteen acting like eighteen, twenty-one, twenty-six, and- or older. 2035.4473 1716 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2035.4473 (pause 1.27) 2036.7152 1717 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2036.7152 That's why I'm thankful. And I make sure I talk to her 2039.2818 1718 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2039.2818 (pause 0.34) 2039.6188 1719 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2039.6188 every day or see her every day because 2041.8443 1720 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2041.8443 (pause 0.56) 2042.4082 1721 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2042.4082 I've never had any problems with her. 2043.7970 1722 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2043.7970 (pause 1.34) 2045.1417 1723 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2045.1417 Never. 2045.5124 1724 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2045.5124 (pause 0.15) 2045.6589 1725 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2045.6589 She's a daddy's girl. 2046.5497 1726 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2046.5497 (pause 1.04) 2047.5907 1727 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2047.5907 And I talked her to her at a early age as far as what I think 2049.9372 1728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2049.9372 (pause 0.31) 2050.2508 1729 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2050.2508 is important 2050.9849 1730 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2050.9849 (pause 1.55) 2052.5330 1731 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2052.5330 in life 2053.1203 1732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2053.1203 (pause 0.60) 2053.7209 1733 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2053.7209 in general. 2054.2075 1734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2054.2075 (pause 0.31) 2054.5225 1735 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2054.5225 It's just stuck with her. 2055.3725 1736 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2055.3725 (pause 0.62) 2055.9906 1737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2055.9906 She never got in trouble at school, she always get good grades in school. 2058.9134 1738 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2058.9134 (pause 0.73) 2059.6408 1739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2059.6408 And then that's why I spoil her. I don't have no problem spoiling her though. 2061.5335 1740 DCB_int_01 2062.1541 Because she's doing what she's supposed to do. 2063.2952 1741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2063.2618 Yeah, exactly, yeah. 2064.0545 1742 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2064.8300 But I- I don't just give her stuff just to be giving her- I mean, I explain to her, you know, 2067.9766 1743 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2067.9766 (pause 1.05) 2069.0282 1744 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2069.0282 why I'm doing it. Not just- 2070.3729 1745 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2070.3729 (pause 0.20) 2070.5764 1746 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2070.5764 Cause I know she aks for a lot. But I- I- she- she know the difference between 2073.5635 1747 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2073.5635 (pause 0.86) 2074.4243 1748 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2074.4243 stuff that she wants and something that she needs. 2076.6577 1749 DCB_int_01 2077.0702 Right. 2077.3605 1750 DCB_int_01 2077.3605 (pause 1.03) 2078.3857 1751 DCB_int_01 2078.3857 Is she into boys yet? 2079.3433 1752 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2079.9547 2080.0148 1753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2080.0148 (pause 0.49) 2080.5019 1754 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2080.5019 Uh, no not yet but I know it's coming though. 2082.2161 1755 DCB_int_01 2082.6899 No not yet that you don't know of. 2084.2681 1756 DCB_int_01 2084.2681 (pause 0.85) 2085.1197 1757 DCB_int_01 2085.1197 Which is different. [She may-] 2086.3976 1758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2085.8304 [You sounding] like my mother. 2087.1217 1759 DCB_int_01 2087.7323 I mean, I'm just being- 2088.5509 1760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2088.5531 She- no, she told me the [exact same thing.] 2090.2280 1761 DCB_int_01 2089.3405 [Look, we work] around kids, [right?] 2091.4934 1762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2091.0864 [Yeah], yeah. 2091.7870 1763 DCB_int_01 2092.1107 Um, 2093.0149 1764 DCB_int_01 2093.0149 (pause 0.62) 2093.6355 1765 DCB_int_01 2093.6355 and so we're the- we're the people that the kids go to when they don't go to their parents. 2098.5600 1766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2099.8791 True. 2100.1724 1767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2100.1724 (pause 0.39) 2100.5631 1768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2100.5631 That's absolutely right. 2101.3538 1769 DCB_int_01 2101.5507 And so we know about all the kids [who like], you know, I really like this person, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 2107.1270 1770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2103.9706 [Mm-hm.] 2104.3409 1771 DCB_int_01 2107.6942 You did it 2108.3281 1772 DCB_int_01 2108.3281 (pause 0.73) 2109.0597 1773 DCB_int_01 2109.0597 when you were younger. 2110.1490 1774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2110.2508 Hold on a sec. 2110.9122 1775 DCB_int_01 2110.8748 Uh-huh. 2111.2187 1776 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2111.2218 My /waitlist/ guy. 2112.0384 1777 DCB_int_01 2112.3529 Oh. 2112.5929 1778 DCB_int_01 2112.5929 (pause 0.49) 2113.0802 1779 DCB_int_01 2113.0802 Hey /RD-NAME-2/. 2113.8677 1780 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2114.0612 But, [um,] 2114.7385 1781 DCB_int_01 2114.5984 [You] did it. 2115.3091 1782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2115.6736 Oh yeah, see, but this- this the thing though, /RD-NAME-2/. 2117.2852 1783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2117.2852 (pause 0.49) 2117.7790 1784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2117.7790 As a man, s- especially, y- your- your /atmosphere/ on life and the way you see life changes when you have a child. 2122.6145 1785 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2122.6145 (pause 0.23) 2122.8414 1786 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2122.8414 Especially when your child is a daughter, I mean, is a girl. 2124.8800 1787 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2124.8800 (pause 0.87) 2125.7476 1788 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2125.7476 it changes. I mean, because she knows, 2127.4467 1789 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2127.4467 (pause 1.16) 2128.6045 1790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2128.6045 and I hate to say it, 2129.3586 1791 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2129.3586 (pause 0.34) 2129.7022 1792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2129.7022 I hate every little boy. 2130.7956 1793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2130.7956 (pause 0.42) 2131.2137 1794 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2131.2137 I don't like none of 'em. 2132.0078 1795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2132.0078 (pause 2.05) 2134.0573 1796 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2134.0573 I know it sounds harsh /unintelligible/ (laughing) 2135.7957 1797 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2135.7957 (pause 1.12) 2136.9168 1798 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2136.9168 But I- seriously, I mean, I- 2138.0612 1799 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2138.0612 (pause 0.27) 2138.3348 1800 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2138.3348 mean, I know it's just me as a father talking, but I don't 2140.7546 1801 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2140.7546 (pause 0.25) 2141.0082 1802 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2141.0082 like mean it like- like, [directly, but.] 2142.7032 1803 DCB_int_01 2142.3495 [Right], but I [get it.] 2143.4940 1804 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2143.2271 [Cause I] know how I was as a, um, young man. 2145.6736 1805 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2145.9706 They're worse now. 2146.8147 1806 DCB_int_01 2147.5488 Times twenty. 2148.4096 1807 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2148.5764 Yeah, and 2149.3171 1808 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2149.3171 (pause 0.19) 2149.5107 1809 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2149.5107 that's why I talk to my daughter all the time about what's important, I mean, what's gonna be there as she get older. And she don't need it now, I mean, it's- /it's just gonna-/ as long as you're living it's gonna be there. 2156.9529 1810 DCB_int_01 2158.2208 /unintelligible/ no need to [rush.] 2159.6032 1811 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2159.4587 [Nah.] 2159.9525 1812 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2160.3629 I mean, but, um, 2161.2204 1813 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2161.2204 (pause 1.33) 2162.5483 1814 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2162.5483 She probably- I mean, I j- 2163.4634 1815 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2163.4634 (pause 0.24) 2163.7003 1816 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2163.7003 she probably has a interest in boys already I just don't know about it. 2165.7122 1817 DCB_int_01 2167.0936 [As long as you're] not ignorant to that fact. 2168.9796 1818 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2167.2437 [That's why-] 2167.5907 1819 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2169.0296 Oh n- oh, no I'm not. 2170.0673 1820 DCB_int_01 2170.3509 [Okay.] 2170.6679 1821 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2170.5478 [I'm] not gonna lie I used to be. 2171.7278 1822 DCB_int_01 2172.6465 Cause you thought she was a perfect [angel.] 2174.0579 1823 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2173.7876 [Oh yeah.] 2174.2847 1824 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2175.0663 Of course. 2175.5503 1825 DCB_int_01 2175.6202 Mm-hm. 2175.9375 1826 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2176.0506 But I wanted it- I don't wanna get- have it in her mind that- 2178.4363 1827 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2178.4363 (pause 0.47) 2178.9034 1828 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2178.9034 the hate that I have for little boys 2180.5016 1829 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2180.5016 (pause 0.51) 2181.0130 1830 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2181.0130 that she gotta, 2181.4850 1831 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2181.4850 (pause 0.14) 2181.6269 1832 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2181.6269 well I- 2181.9706 1833 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2181.9706 (pause 0.15) 2182.1207 1834 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2182.1207 I don't wanna tell him this. 2183.0783 1835 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2183.0783 (pause 0.59) 2183.6689 1836 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2183.6689 [I don't think] I should tell him because he might get mad or /I'm- I ain't/ gonna take it. 2186.0712 1837 DCB_int_01 2183.7122 [Yup.] 2183.9425 1838 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2186.4683 That's why 2187.1989 1839 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2187.1989 (pause 0.43) 2187.6269 1840 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2187.6269 I eased off that a little bit. 2189.4887 1841 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2189.4887 (pause 0.80) 2190.2895 1842 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2190.2895 And- 2190.6865 1843 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2190.6865 (pause 0.42) 2191.1103 1844 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2191.1103 and trying to get to the point where she's comfortable talking about anything, including boys. 2194.5077 1845 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2194.5077 (pause 0.39) 2194.8948 1846 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2194.8948 I might not wanna hear it, 2195.8023 1847 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2195.8023 (pause 1.11) 2196.9134 1848 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2196.9134 I mean, but hey. 2197.6975 1849 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2197.6975 (pause 0.32) 2198.0145 1850 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2198.0145 It comes with the territory, though. 2199.1297 1851 DCB_int_01 2199.2131 It does. 2199.9105 1852 DCB_int_01 2199.9105 (pause 0.13) 2200.0406 1853 DCB_int_01 2200.0406 And that's wonderful. Where- 2201.0583 1854 DCB_int_01 2201.0583 (pause 0.22) 2201.2818 1855 DCB_int_01 2201.2818 Does she wanna go to college? 2202.2245 1856 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2202.1794 Yes she does. Where, I don't know yet, 2203.7542 1857 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2203.8610 but she does. 2204.4524 1858 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2204.4524 (pause 0.12) 2204.5725 1859 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2204.5725 Initially she does. 2205.4492 1860 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2205.4492 (pause 0.11) 2205.5568 1861 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2205.5568 I mean initially when I aksed her she wasn't really- 2207.8023 1862 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2207.8023 (pause 0.63) 2208.4363 1863 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2208.4363 Cause she in the tenth grade now. 2209.3905 1864 DCB_int_01 2209.6675 Mm-hm. 2210.0181 1865 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2210.4224 She wasn't really I guess 2211.7270 1866 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2211.7270 (pause 0.97) 2212.6979 1867 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2212.6979 that enthused about it cause I guess in her mind she was like, I'm- 2214.8800 1868 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2214.8800 (pause 0.12) 2215.0035 1869 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2215.0035 I'm only in ninth grade, why is he asking me about college? 2217.0982 1870 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2217.0982 (pause 1.23) 2218.3276 1871 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2218.3276 And I used to aks her all the time, now 2219.8369 1872 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2219.8369 (pause 1.48) 2221.3205 1873 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2221.3205 when I aksed her, she was like, I'm going but I just don't know where I'm gonna go yet. 2223.9702 1874 DCB_int_01 2224.2208 Right. 2224.5115 1875 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2224.5311 Whereas though like a year or two years ago, she was like, college, /unintelligible/ 2227.2271 1876 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2227.2271 (pause 0.99) 2228.2180 1877 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2228.2180 Can I get through the eighth grade- eighth grade first? Yeah, [so.] 2230.8623 1878 DCB_int_01 2230.6646 [I'm] just trying to get to eighth gra- I'm just trying to get to high school, Dad. 2233.5040 1879 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2233.6007 Yeah, so, 2234.3548 1880 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2234.3548 (pause 0.11) 2234.4616 1881 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2234.4616 I mean, if she- 2234.9621 1882 DCB_int_01 2234.9662 2235.3299 1883 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2235.5001 she knows that I want her to go, I- 2236.7513 1884 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2236.7513 (pause 0.63) 2237.3786 1885 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2237.3786 I think she wants to go, too. 2238.3996 1886 DCB_int_01 2238.9601 Let's- so let's transition from family. How did you get to- 2242.6145 1887 DCB_int_01 2242.6145 (pause 0.80) 2243.4120 1888 DCB_int_01 2243.4120 [You're kind of in] this job, [right? So], in safety, and like, people just don't walk into, I'm gonna 2248.1507 1889 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2243.4220 [] 2244.0059 1890 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2244.0059 (pause 0.63) 2244.6365 1891 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2244.6365 [Mm-hm.] 2244.9391 1892 DCB_int_01 2248.3442 be in safety. 2249.1050 1893 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2249.2151 Yeah. 2249.4220 1894 DCB_int_01 2249.3886 How did you kind of get into this career path? Was it through college, or 2252.8086 1895 DCB_int_01 2253.3066 how did you get here? 2254.5745 1896 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2255.2618 Uh, /RD-NAME-2/ this was never initially on my career path 2258.1112 1897 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2258.1112 (pause 0.53) 2258.6418 1898 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2258.6418 leaving college and in high school. 2260.0473 1899 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2260.0473 (pause 0.85) 2260.8948 1900 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2260.8948 Never was. 2261.6088 1901 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2261.6088 (pause 0.43) 2262.0392 1902 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2262.0392 I mean, cause I could draw, 2263.1503 1903 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2263.1503 (pause 0.41) 2263.5574 1904 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2263.5574 really really good, and I wanted to be like a artist, engineer, or I be on TV playing sports. 2267.8324 1905 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2267.8324 (pause 1.67) 2269.5040 1906 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2269.5040 Safety- And the reason I- um, 2271.2490 1907 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2271.2490 (pause 0.55) 2271.8004 1908 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2271.8004 I got into it because when I was in school, I started doing security part time 2275.2938 1909 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2275.2938 (pause 1.19) 2276.4816 1910 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2276.4816 for /RD-WORK-5/. 2277.3358 1911 DCB_int_01 2277.9772 Mm-hm. 2278.3643 1912 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2278.3743 Um, 2278.9148 1913 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2278.9148 (pause 2.43) 2281.3438 1914 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2281.3438 initially, I mean, I- I di- I'm not gonna say I was a expert, but 2284.2809 1915 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2284.2809 (pause 1.00) 2285.2818 1916 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2285.2818 he- the guy I was working for thought I was. I mean, because I was making decisions on my own. That's w- how security p- pretty much is. 2291.1217 1917 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2291.1217 (pause 0.51) 2291.6355 1918 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2291.6355 They put you in a position where 2292.9168 1919 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2292.9168 (pause 1.54) 2294.4582 1920 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2294.4582 you can't make personal decisions 2296.0540 1921 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2296.0540 (pause 0.11) 2296.1674 1922 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2296.1674 because your 2296.7487 1923 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2296.7487 (pause 0.59) 2297.3419 1924 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2297.3419 personal decisions don't matter. 2298.7065 1925 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2298.7065 (pause 0.47) 2299.1770 1926 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2299.1770 Every decision you make, you gotta be, how would it benefit the organization I'm working for? 2302.4900 1927 DCB_int_01 2303.5921 Hm. 2303.9581 1928 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2304.7032 I mean, sometimes, you might not agree with it. 2306.9054 1929 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2306.9054 (pause 1.16) 2308.0640 1930 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2308.0640 But 2308.4277 1931 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2308.4277 (pause 0.77) 2309.1951 1932 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2309.1951 how you feel don't matter at the time because you gotta figure 2311.7042 1933 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2311.7042 (pause 1.87) 2313.5735 1934 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2313.5735 the decisions you make is gonna affect other people 2315.7923 1935 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2315.7923 (pause 0.33) 2316.1260 1936 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2316.1260 and the business. 2316.9434 1937 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2316.9434 (pause 0.50) 2317.4439 1938 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2317.4439 So whatever guidelines 2319.0655 1939 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2319.0655 (pause 0.35) 2319.4167 1940 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2319.4167 the organization has 2320.6207 1941 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2320.6207 (pause 0.43) 2321.0483 1942 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2321.0483 those what you gotta follow. 2322.0693 1943 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2322.0693 (pause 0.61) 2322.6832 1944 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2322.6832 So I started doing security there. 2324.0946 1945 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2324.0946 (pause 1.57) 2325.6694 1946 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2325.6694 Um, 2326.2184 1947 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2326.2184 (pause 0.18) 2326.3994 1948 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2326.3994 2327.0580 1949 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2327.0580 (pause 0.55) 2327.6066 1950 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2327.6066 St- 2327.8298 1951 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2327.8298 (pause 0.10) 2327.9324 1952 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2327.9324 I'm not gonna lie, I started to like it 2329.3097 1953 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2329.3097 (pause 0.64) 2329.9532 1954 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2329.9532 a little bit. 2330.4630 1955 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2330.4630 (pause 0.44) 2330.9033 1956 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2330.9033 I mean, cause I- when I 2331.7388 1957 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2331.7388 (pause 0.30) 2332.0352 1958 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2332.0352 first started doing security, security was looked at the guy with the mean face 2335.6004 1959 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2335.6004 (pause 0.43) 2336.0287 1960 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2336.0287 standing in CVS telling everybody what to- what to do and being mean [to people.] 2339.5675 1961 DCB_int_01 2339.1603 [] 2340.0496 1962 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2340.2280 That quickly changed when I left there 2342.0587 1963 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2342.0587 (pause 0.46) 2342.5234 1964 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2342.5234 And I started doing security for /RD-WORK-3/, 2344.2585 1965 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2344.2585 (pause 0.11) 2344.3701 1966 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2344.3701 /RD-WORK-5/. 2345.1513 1967 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2345.1513 (pause 0.50) 2345.6490 1968 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2345.6490 Because, you know, at a hotel, they preach 2347.6940 1969 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2347.6940 (pause 0.83) 2348.5212 1970 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2348.5212 like it's in the Bible, hospitality. 2350.1348 1971 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2350.1348 (pause 1.48) 2351.6188 1972 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2351.6188 Every day, I mean, it's- 2352.5509 1973 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2352.5509 (pause 0.28) 2352.8314 1974 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2352.8314 and I- I didn't really see security and like hospitality like, connecting together 2356.9282 1975 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2356.9282 (pause 0.65) 2357.5736 1976 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2357.5736 /?/ 2357.7878 1977 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2357.7878 (pause 0.14) 2357.9326 1978 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2357.9326 until I started working in the hotel /world/ because, of course, you gotta, 2360.2987 1979 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2360.2987 (pause 0.91) 2361.2059 1980 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2361.2059 you know, provide a p- uh, secure presence by standing in the lobby, at the same time 2364.4846 1981 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2364.4846 (pause 0.84) 2365.3208 1982 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2365.3208 you gotta be hospitable, too. A guest walk past, how you doing? 2367.9450 1983 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2367.9450 (pause 0.94) 2368.8890 1984 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2368.8890 Can I help you with anything? 2369.7607 1985 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2369.7607 (pause 1.37) 2371.1278 1986 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2371.1278 And I think that's learned behavior because if you- 2372.7023 1987 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2372.7023 (pause 0.38) 2373.0824 1988 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2373.0824 you- growing up, I mean, everybody don't have that personality. 2375.3650 1989 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2375.3650 (pause 0.98) 2376.3406 1990 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2376.3406 You don't. 2376.7177 1991 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2376.7177 (pause 1.11) 2377.8246 1992 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2377.8246 I mean, cause I was- I was a person- I used to laugh and joke, but was I open to like, having conversations with people 2382.3497 1993 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2382.3497 (pause 0.72) 2383.0706 1994 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2383.0706 at a younger age? I'm n- I'm not gonna lie. No I wasn't. 2385.5560 1995 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2385.5560 (pause 1.42) 2386.9804 1996 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2386.9804 But when I started working in a hotel, 2388.4535 1997 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2388.4535 (pause 0.71) 2389.1672 1998 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2389.1672 and I saw that everybody 2390.4008 1999 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2390.4008 (pause 0.19) 2390.5878 2000 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2390.5878 talk to everybody. 2391.6838 2001 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2391.6838 (pause 0.98) 2392.6668 2002 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2392.6668 Guests'll come up to you and hold a conversation with you for a hour if they could, 2396.1777 2003 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2396.1777 (pause 0.51) 2396.6874 2004 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2396.6874 about their day, their kids, 2398.3350 2005 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2398.3350 (pause 0.36) 2398.6909 2006 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2398.6909 um, 2399.1434 2007 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2399.1434 (pause 0.13) 2399.2731 2008 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2399.2731 things that's going on in the area. 2400.5701 2009 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2400.5701 (pause 0.63) 2401.2035 2010 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2401.2035 I started to like it. 2402.0631 2011 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2402.0631 (pause 0.72) 2402.7787 2012 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2402.7787 So the more I start to like it, I switched from part time to full time. 2405.8073 2013 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2405.8073 (pause 0.70) 2406.5068 2014 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2406.5068 And within- 2406.9713 2015 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2406.9713 (pause 0.22) 2407.1914 2016 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2407.1914 within like, two years I was promoted to like a, uh, 2409.5991 2017 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2409.5991 (pause 0.13) 2409.7258 2018 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2409.7258 lead officer or something like that. 2411.0862 2019 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2411.0862 (pause 0.70) 2411.7859 2020 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2411.7859 And then, 2412.3500 2021 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2412.3500 (pause 1.04) 2413.3906 2022 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2413.3906 as the lead officer I took on more responsibilities. 2415.5466 2023 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2415.5466 (pause 0.73) 2416.2718 2024 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2416.2718 Um, 2416.7212 2025 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2416.7212 (pause 0.44) 2417.1616 2026 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2417.1616 I'm good at writing reports. 2418.3206 2027 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2418.3206 (pause 1.06) 2419.3823 2028 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2419.3823 And I think initially that's what got me, um, promoted because 2422.0155 2029 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2422.0155 (pause 1.12) 2423.1345 2030 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2423.1345 it was a instance where my supervisor 2425.1229 2031 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2425.1229 (pause 0.66) 2425.7835 2032 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2425.7835 I guess she was older 2426.8663 2033 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2426.8663 (pause 0.42) 2427.2856 2034 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2427.2856 she was inclined to technology. 2428.8540 2035 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2428.8540 (pause 0.26) 2429.1164 2036 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2429.1164 I [used to do her] reports. 2430.1902 2037 DCB_int_01 2429.2615 [Mm-hm.] 2429.5739 2038 DCB_int_01 2430.9873 Mm, mm-hm. 2431.9826 2039 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2432.1395 I used to do her reports. 2432.9991 2040 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2432.9991 (pause 0.08) 2433.0775 2041 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2433.0775 And I think my director found out that I was cause he knew 2435.3246 2042 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2435.3246 (pause 0.40) 2435.7295 2043 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2435.7295 she wasn't that good. 2436.5549 2044 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2436.5549 (pause 0.28) 2436.8365 2045 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2436.8365 So he was looking at some of the reports and he was like, man no way in hell she wrote this. 2439.6205 2046 DCB_int_01 2440.1212 Cause it wasn't happening before. 2441.3254 2047 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2441.5396 It sure enough wasn't. 2442.4716 2048 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2442.4716 (pause 0.55) 2443.0175 2049 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2443.0175 And then 2443.5514 2050 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2443.5514 (pause 1.00) 2444.5498 2051 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2444.5498 he saw a report that I did and saw they were similar. He never came- I know that's what it was, he never came out 2449.1020 2052 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2449.1020 (pause 0.78) 2449.8772 2053 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2449.8772 and said it. Until one time 2451.2254 2054 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2451.2254 (pause 0.34) 2451.5610 2055 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2451.5610 she did a report, 2452.4146 2056 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2452.4146 (pause 0.71) 2453.1204 2057 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2453.1204 well, she was supposed to do it, I helped her do it. 2454.9881 2058 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2454.9881 (pause 0.41) 2455.3976 2059 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2455.3976 And he saw her and he was like, 2456.1819 2060 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2456.1819 (pause 0.12) 2456.3063 2061 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2456.3063 good job on the report you did yesterday. I'm saying to myself, I didn't do no report yesterday. 2459.4009 2062 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2459.4009 (pause 0.65) 2460.0464 2063 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2460.0464 Then I got to thinking, oh damn, he know. 2461.3555 2064 DCB_int_01 2463.2233 [] 2465.0782 2065 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2463.4585 [But I think- And after that I] was- Cause m- m- I- I can say /RD-WORK-3/ was like, one of the best jobs I ever had. 2469.1781 2066 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2469.8839 I mean, because I got to meet like a lot of, um- 2471.6755 2067 DCB_int_01 2473.0788 [/Need to get it? Uh,/ mm-hm.] 2474.2129 2068 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2473.1723 [/Let me answer this real quick./] 2474.0289 2069 DCB_int_01 2474.7022 Can't write everything [down.] 2475.7301 2070 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2475.3742 [] 2475.9315 2071 DCB_int_01 2476.0438 Okay. 2476.3756 2072 DCB_int_01 2476.3756 (pause 0.75) 2477.1296 2073 DCB_int_01 2477.1296 Um, so you were talking about 2478.2999 2074 DCB_int_01 2478.2999 (pause 0.33) 2478.6324 2075 DCB_int_01 2478.6324 he found out about the report. 2479.8898 2076 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2480.2706 Yeah, he found out about the report and, um, he told me good job. Of course, 2483.2990 2077 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2483.2990 (pause 0.23) 2483.5338 2078 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2483.5338 when he first initially told me I didn't know what he was talking about, and then it dawned on me, dang, he knows. 2487.4165 2079 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2487.4165 (pause 0.94) 2488.3515 2080 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2488.3515 But after a while, I- I guess the performance- um, 2490.8859 2081 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2490.8859 (pause 0.55) 2491.4409 2082 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2491.4409 my performance, 2492.3156 2083 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2492.3156 (pause 0.83) 2493.1420 2084 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2493.1420 uh, he took a liking to. And then when 2495.3537 2085 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2495.3537 (pause 2.29) 2497.6460 2086 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2497.6460 the assistant director left, 2498.9671 2087 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2498.9671 (pause 0.56) 2499.5251 2088 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2499.5251 he aksed me to apply to for the position as assistant director. 2501.9078 2089 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2501.9078 (pause 0.44) 2502.3461 2090 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2502.3461 I didn't really wanna do it, I mean, because I was like, man I- 2504.3941 2091 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2504.3941 (pause 0.67) 2505.0637 2092 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2505.0637 cause I- I- 2505.5320 2093 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2505.5320 (pause 0.61) 2506.1382 2094 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2506.1382 I didn't even plan on being there that long. 2507.4171 2095 DCB_int_01 2507.7640 Mm. 2508.1832 2096 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2508.4969 Being at /RD-WORK-3/ was like a stepping /stone-/ stone for me 2510.7569 2097 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2510.7569 (pause 1.01) 2511.7703 2098 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2511.7703 going on to something else. 2512.9263 2099 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2512.9263 (pause 0.78) 2513.7067 2100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2513.7067 But I was- this was like the third year I was there. 2515.6250 2101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2515.6250 (pause 0.77) 2516.3912 2102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2516.3912 So I was there three years past. (laughing) 2518.0569 2103 DCB_int_01 2518.7144 Been here quite a long time. 2520.0597 2104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2520.1954 Yeah, so I applied for the position, I interviewed with the, um, 2523.2250 2105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2523.2250 (pause 0.78) 2524.0026 2106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2524.0026 executive committee. 2524.8864 2107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2524.8864 (pause 0.70) 2525.5831 2108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2525.5831 And I got the position 2526.3824 2109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2526.3824 (pause 0.85) 2527.2360 2110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2527.2360 as assistant director. And my hours changed. Instead of the morning I came in the evening because 2531.2273 2111 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2531.2273 f 2531.6164 2112 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2531.6164 the assistant director was also the- um, the night manager on duty. 2534.6907 2113 DCB_int_01 2534.9229 Mm-hm. 2535.3150 2114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2535.3874 Which means a- anything happen 2537.1097 2115 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2537.1097 (pause 0.49) 2537.5953 2116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2537.5953 as far as from emergency standpoint whether it a guest or anything, 2540.3529 2117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2540.3529 (pause 0.40) 2540.7540 2118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2540.7540 they come to me aksing me questions. 2542.2994 2119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2542.2994 (pause 1.09) 2543.3872 2120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2543.3872 Um, 2543.9060 2121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2543.9060 (pause 0.18) 2544.0817 2122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2544.0817 /I just-/ I love working at the hotel. I mean, I- I've seen a lot, 2546.5670 2123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2546.5670 (pause 0.22) 2546.7873 2124 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2546.7873 good and bad. 2547.5112 2125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2547.5112 (pause 1.35) 2548.8624 2126 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2548.8624 Real bad. 2549.4235 2127 DCB_int_01 2550.0576 What's the craziest thing you've seen? Or the 2552.0212 2128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2552.7933 [The craziest] thing, and I- I still- I don't still think about it but when I 2556.5493 2129 DCB_int_01 2553.1855 [/?/] 2553.3455 2130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2556.9836 go past the hotel that cross my mind, 2558.6184 2131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2558.6184 (pause 0.80) 2559.4208 2132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2559.4208 it was a instance where 2560.5074 2133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2560.5074 (pause 0.79) 2561.3006 2134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2561.3006 it was a, um- And 2562.4739 2135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2562.4739 (pause 0.11) 2562.5886 2136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2562.5886 I was assistant director when this happened. 2564.0635 2137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2564.0635 (pause 1.35) 2565.4155 2138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2565.4155 I- um, 2566.0942 2139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2566.0942 (pause 0.89) 2566.9840 2140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2566.9840 I was walking on the floor. Though how it usually works is 2569.0682 2141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2569.0682 (pause 0.68) 2569.7438 2142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2569.7438 /so if/ a guest locked out of their room, 2571.2949 2143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2571.2949 (pause 0.66) 2571.9525 2144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2571.9525 or 2572.6583 2145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2572.6583 (pause 0.45) 2573.1047 2146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2573.1047 somebody needs assistance, 2574.3820 2147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2574.3820 (pause 0.58) 2574.9627 2148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2574.9627 whoever's there they call security and we'll respond. 2577.3161 2149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2577.3161 (pause 0.29) 2577.6056 2150 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2577.6056 I was already on the floor and was responding to something else. 2579.7653 2151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2579.7653 (pause 0.34) 2580.1061 2152 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2580.1061 I heard a call over the radio about 2581.5328 2153 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2581.5328 (pause 1.48) 2583.0145 2154 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2583.0145 a- um, a guest needs assistance. 2584.6674 2155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2584.6674 (pause 0.10) 2584.7699 2156 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2584.7699 Never said what for. 2585.8075 2157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2585.8075 (pause 0.32) 2586.1242 2158 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2586.1242 So I'm on the floor, I'm walking towards the room. As I get towards the room, 2588.7250 2159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2588.7250 (pause 0.72) 2589.4428 2160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2589.4428 one of the housekeeping supervisors walked out the room and said, /RD-NAME-2/ hurry up, hurry up, come here. 2592.8700 2161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2592.8700 (pause 0.42) 2593.2893 2162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2593.2893 So I'm running to the room. 2594.2756 2163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2594.2756 (pause 0.51) 2594.7854 2164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2594.7854 Soon as I get to the door, 2595.8561 2165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2595.8561 (pause 0.40) 2596.2603 2166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2596.2603 it was a- um, 2597.2056 2167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2597.2056 (pause 0.32) 2597.5211 2168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2597.5211 a older woman 2598.2058 2169 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2598.2058 (pause 0.42) 2598.6228 2170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2598.6228 like, frantic, 2599.2924 2171 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2599.2924 (pause 0.49) 2599.7870 2172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2599.7870 screaming and crying. I was like, ma'am, calm down, /uh/ how can I help you? 2602.6826 2173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2602.6826 (pause 0.63) 2603.3100 2174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2603.3100 She said, my husband, my husband, my husband. 2605.1054 2175 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2605.1054 (pause 0.80) 2605.9017 2176 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2605.9017 /RD-NAME-2/ I walked in the room, 2606.9905 2177 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2606.9905 (pause 0.31) 2607.3012 2178 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2607.3012 her husband was just laying on the bed, 2608.6163 2179 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2608.6163 (pause 0.37) 2608.9880 2180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2608.9880 stretched out on the bed on his back, 2610.7918 2181 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2610.7918 (pause 0.13) 2610.9215 2182 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2610.9215 mouth wide open. 2611.7681 2183 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2611.7681 (pause 1.14) 2612.9092 2184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2612.9092 I'm not a doctor 2613.7062 2185 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2613.7062 (pause 0.67) 2614.3758 2186 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2614.3758 by any means, 2615.1540 2187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2615.1540 (pause 0.26) 2615.4104 2188 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2615.4104 but once I walked over there, 2616.6138 2189 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2616.6138 (pause 0.98) 2617.5941 2190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2617.5941 touched him, cold as ice. 2618.9725 2191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2618.9725 (pause 1.25) 2620.2250 2192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2620.2250 Cold as ice. 2620.9157 2193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2620.9157 (pause 0.18) 2621.0997 2194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2621.0997 And I found out they were there 2622.5023 2195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2622.5023 (pause 0.43) 2622.9366 2196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2622.9366 on vacation 2623.7601 2197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2623.7601 (pause 0.35) 2624.1069 2198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2624.1069 to go sight seeing. 2624.9726 2199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2624.9726 (pause 0.28) 2625.2569 2200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2625.2569 It was him, his wife, their two kids, 2627.0696 2201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2627.0696 (pause 0.43) 2627.5040 2202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2627.5040 and his mother. 2628.1434 2203 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2628.1434 (pause 0.76) 2628.9035 2204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2628.9035 So, 2629.3529 2205 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2629.3529 (pause 0.67) 2630.0225 2206 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2630.0225 she told me that, 2630.8618 2207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2630.8618 (pause 0.14) 2631.0066 2208 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2631.0066 um, 2631.5827 2209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2631.5827 (pause 0.54) 2632.1256 2210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2632.1256 earlier that day, well, that morning, 2633.5613 2211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2633.5613 (pause 0.57) 2634.1314 2212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2634.1314 he said he didn't feel well. 2635.1388 2213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2635.1388 (pause 0.16) 2635.2987 2214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2635.2987 His ch- he was like, chest felt funny, and his stomach was hurting. 2637.7697 2215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2637.7697 (pause 0.63) 2638.3971 2216 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2638.3971 So it was like, well, you stay here and rest, we'll go sight seeing. 2640.7407 2217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2640.7407 (pause 0.67) 2641.4080 2218 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2641.4080 So imagine they went to go sight s- 2642.7925 2219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2642.7925 (pause 0.16) 2642.9493 2220 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2642.9493 sight seeing, they came back, 2644.2433 2221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2644.2433 (pause 0.62) 2644.8616 2222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2644.8616 and found him in the room, 2645.8540 2223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2645.8540 (pause 0.27) 2646.1224 2224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2646.1224 his wife, 2646.7287 2225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2646.7287 (pause 0.37) 2647.1004 2226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2647.1004 his mom, and his kids. 2648.3284 2227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2648.3284 (pause 0.71) 2649.0399 2228 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2649.0399 And when I get to the room, the kids were like, on the side 2651.3171 2229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2651.3171 (pause 0.14) 2651.4619 2230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2651.4619 /??/ cause they got conjoining rooms. 2653.0311 2231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2653.0311 (pause 1.45) 2654.4819 2232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2654.4819 And they had a housekeeper to t- to take them in the room cause they was like, real real frantic. 2658.0180 2233 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2658.0180 (pause 0.76) 2658.7808 2234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2658.7808 So, of course, all of us are, um, CPR, First-Aid, um, certified. 2662.7863 2235 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2662.7863 (pause 0.64) 2663.4265 2236 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2663.4265 /RD-NAME-2/ like I say, I'm not a doctor. I knew he was- um, 2666.0627 2237 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2666.0627 (pause 0.96) 2667.0189 2238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2667.0189 /and/ I had a feeling he was dead, I'll say that. 2668.5122 2239 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2668.5122 (pause 0.68) 2669.1883 2240 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2669.1883 So I aksed the wife, well, help me move him to the floor cause, you know, you can't do CPR on the bed because 2673.4140 2241 DCB_int_01 2672.7052 [Bed cause] the surface. 2674.3167 2242 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2674.3016 the resistance, so 2675.2517 2243 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2675.5382 we moved him on the floor. 2676.5969 2244 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2676.5969 (pause 0.82) 2677.4204 2245 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2677.4204 Um, but when I first got there I told her to call downstairs and have 'em call the ambulance. 2680.9954 2246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2680.9954 (pause 0.79) 2681.7886 2247 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2681.7886 Um, I started CPR process 2683.7220 2248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2683.7220 (pause 1.11) 2684.8358 2249 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2684.8358 for like, five minutes, five- five to eight minutes. 2687.3002 2250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2687.3002 (pause 0.70) 2687.9998 2251 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2687.9998 During the process, um, 2689.5592 2252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2689.5592 (pause 0.40) 2689.9611 2253 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2689.9611 they showed up, the ambulance showed up, 2691.8523 2254 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2691.8523 (pause 0.37) 2692.2203 2255 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2692.2203 and they saw what I was doing. They was like, well, keep going, cause they started setting up for everything. 2695.4929 2256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2695.4929 (pause 0.62) 2696.1120 2257 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2696.1120 So I- I was still doing CPR process until they took over. 2698.7210 2258 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2698.7210 (pause 0.90) 2699.6229 2259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2699.6229 Um, from there- 2700.6122 2260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2700.6122 (pause 1.22) 2701.8315 2261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2701.8315 Course, the wife, 2702.5222 2262 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2702.5222 (pause 0.98) 2703.4995 2263 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2703.4995 s- lo- she's losing it. 2704.7482 2264 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2704.7482 (pause 0.57) 2705.3213 2265 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2705.3213 They took him to the hospital. 2706.5044 2266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2706.5044 (pause 1.10) 2707.6083 2267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2707.6083 Um, 2708.2900 2268 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2708.2900 (pause 0.35) 2708.6399 2269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2708.6399 of course, he was pronounced dead 2709.8404 2270 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2709.8404 (pause 0.80) 2710.6427 2271 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2710.6427 before he even got there. 2711.6169 2272 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2711.6169 (pause 0.72) 2712.3325 2273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2712.3325 But- um, 2713.1378 2274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2713.1378 (pause 0.45) 2713.5873 2275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2713.5873 and that's the first time I actually- 2715.0499 2276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2715.0499 (pause 1.32) 2716.3713 2277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2716.3713 I've seen- like, 2717.5302 2278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2717.5302 (pause 0.72) 2718.2541 2279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2718.2541 from a distance though, 2719.1077 2280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2719.1077 (pause 0.10) 2719.2103 2281 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2719.2103 seen people get shot, or people die, but this was the first time I was actually this close 2722.6556 2282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2722.6556 (pause 0.57) 2723.2256 2283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2723.2256 to like, a dead body. 2724.0523 2284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2724.0523 (pause 1.61) 2725.6658 2285 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2725.6658 And it stuck /for/ me that entire week. 2727.0502 2286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2727.0502 (pause 0.17) 2727.2161 2287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2727.2161 it was like rolling around in my head like, 2728.8487 2288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2728.8487 (pause 0.13) 2728.9814 2289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2728.9814 dang should I- 2729.4730 2290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2729.4730 (pause 1.12) 2730.5951 2291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2730.5951 what if I'd have got there sooner? 2731.6296 2292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2731.6296 (pause 0.13) 2731.7563 2293 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2731.7563 I mean, 2732.1310 2294 DCB_int_01 2732.2902 Mm. 2732.5707 2295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2733.0865 But, um, 2733.6482 2296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2733.6482 (pause 0.15) 2733.7960 2297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2733.7960 2734.3963 2298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2734.3963 (pause 0.22) 2734.6134 2299 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2734.6134 it got to a point where 2735.7566 2300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2735.7566 (pause 1.21) 2736.9691 2301 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2736.9691 like I said, I was doing the CPR process, 2738.6582 2302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2738.6582 (pause 0.56) 2739.2230 2303 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2739.2230 it didn't work, 2739.8986 2304 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2739.8986 (pause 0.62) 2740.5170 2305 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2740.5170 they took him to the hospital, he pronounced dead. 2742.0764 2306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2742.0764 (pause 0.35) 2742.4293 2307 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2742.4293 The very next day, I'm walking in the lobby, 2744.3989 2308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2744.3989 (pause 0.15) 2744.5444 2309 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2744.5444 I run into his wife. 2745.5639 2310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2745.5639 (pause 1.44) 2746.9996 2311 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2746.9996 She look like she was lost. I mean, it's 2748.8513 2312 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2748.8513 (pause 0.54) 2749.3915 2313 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2749.3915 explainable, I mean, of course she would. 2750.7676 2314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2750.7676 (pause 0.56) 2751.3317 2315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2751.3317 I talked to her for a while, aksed her did she need anything, /I got/ the front desk- 2754.6495 2316 DCB_int_01 2755.4254 It might be /RD-NAME-2/. 2756.2187 2317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2756.2187 Yeah, just hold on [a sec.] 2756.9939 2318 DCB_int_01 2756.7073 [Mm-hm.] 2756.9637 2319 DCB_int_01 2757.0210 Wanted to s- start early cause it's gonna start getting busy. 2759.3013 2320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2759.3013 Yeah. 2759.6106 2321 DCB_int_01 2760.0282 So you saw the wife, [she was-] 2761.7375 2322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2761.0317 [Yeah, I s- uh], and she was frantic. 2762.6303 2323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2762.7781 I mean, she was- 2763.4447 2324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2763.4447 (pause 0.13) 2763.5714 2325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2763.5714 you could tell she been crying all night, she didn't sleep when I was talking to her. 2766.2830 2326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2766.2830 (pause 0.97) 2767.2519 2327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2767.2519 I mean, of course, 2767.9969 2328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2767.9969 (pause 1.47) 2769.4658 2329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2769.4658 I'm not gonna say I feel your pain because I- I have somebody passing me 2772.3742 2330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2772.3742 (pause 0.70) 2773.0710 2331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2773.0710 as well, but that don't mean I feel the same thing she's feeling. 2775.2216 2332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2775.2216 (pause 0.73) 2775.9515 2333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2775.9515 So I aksed her, I was like, well, um, 2777.5863 2334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2777.5863 (pause 0.33) 2777.9128 2335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2777.9128 if there's anything we can do to help, 2779.3606 2336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2779.3606 (pause 0.90) 2780.2594 2337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2780.2594 just let me know. I gave her my business card, 2782.0420 2338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2782.0420 (pause 0.53) 2782.5706 2339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2782.5706 cause I didn't have a chance to the day before. 2784.1934 2340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2784.1934 (pause 0.67) 2784.8630 2341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2784.8630 We comped her- um, we just went ahead and comped their stay. 2787.3182 2342 DCB_int_01 2788.1114 Right. 2788.3488 2343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2788.3354 I went over to the front desk, 2789.4846 2344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2789.8133 and I talked to the GM 2790.9505 2345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2790.9505 (pause 0.68) 2791.6321 2346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2791.6321 and, um, 2792.3952 2347 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2792.3952 (pause 0.56) 2792.9532 2348 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2792.9532 we comped their stay. 2793.8853 2349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2793.8853 (pause 0.23) 2794.1153 2350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2794.1153 They stayed for like another day. 2795.3157 2351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2795.3157 (pause 0.11) 2795.4273 2352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2795.4273 Cause they- they was from- 2796.5660 2353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2796.5660 (pause 0.81) 2797.3788 2354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2797.3788 2797.5176 2355 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2797.5176 (pause 1.17) 2798.6879 2356 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2798.6879 I can't- forgot what city they was from, but it was nowhere near DC of [course.] 2801.7350 2357 DCB_int_01 2801.5239 [Right.] 2801.7803 2358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2802.7545 Cause I worked at the /RD-WORK-3/ um, downtown on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ by the convention center. 2805.9525 2359 DCB_int_01 2806.0128 Mm, mm-hm. 2806.6281 2360 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2807.0805 So, um, 2807.8467 2361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2807.8467 (pause 3.23) 2811.0748 2362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2811.0748 of course, she- she said she didn't need anything but I let her know, well, I'm'a come back and check on you 2815.0328 2363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2815.0328 (pause 0.42) 2815.4521 2364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2815.4521 later today if th- if- if- if that's okay with- with you. 2817.7354 2365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2817.7354 (pause 0.72) 2818.4563 2366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2818.4563 Uh, she said that's fine, she was about to go, um, 2820.4228 2367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2820.4228 (pause 0.56) 2820.9876 2368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2820.9876 get the kids and have 'em eat breakfast. I was like, well, 2823.4459 2369 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2823.4459 (pause 1.05) 2824.4985 2370 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2824.4985 I'll be downstairs waiting on you. 2825.6357 2371 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2825.6357 (pause 0.22) 2825.8589 2372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2825.8589 Of course, I comped their breakfast as well 2827.3919 2373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2827.3919 (pause 0.48) 2827.8684 2374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2827.8684 once they came down. 2828.7341 2375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2828.7341 (pause 0.72) 2829.4519 2376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2829.4519 I mean, when I- I saw her again when she left, she said she appreciated everything. 2832.5896 2377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2832.5896 (pause 0.91) 2833.4975 2378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2833.4975 I mean, it's nothing really that 2834.9694 2379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2834.9694 (pause 0.28) 2835.2529 2380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2835.2529 we could have [possibly done] [to change it] because she didn't know 2837.8718 2381 DCB_int_01 2835.9358 [Mm-hm.] 2836.3508 2382 DCB_int_01 2836.3508 (pause 0.19) 2836.5450 2383 DCB_int_01 2836.5450 [Yeah.] 2836.9649 2384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2838.5383 and neither we- I mean, we didn't know either I guess 2840.6195 2385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2840.6195 (pause 0.33) 2840.9513 2386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2840.9513 he was sick, 2841.5425 2387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2841.5425 (pause 0.84) 2842.3848 2388 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2842.3848 so. 2842.6875 2389 DCB_int_01 2843.9020 /inaudible/ oh. 2844.5203 2390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2844.5655 No. 2844.7646 2391 DCB_int_01 2844.8400 Okay. 2845.1814 2392 DCB_int_01 2845.1814 (pause 1.29) 2846.4748 2393 DCB_int_01 2846.4748 Um, 2847.0148 2394 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2848.7950 [I mean, just-] 2849.3217 2395 DCB_int_01 2848.8735 [So he was] sick. 2849.7421 2396 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2849.8779 Yeah he was sick and ain't nobody knew it. Um, I would say it's nothing we 2853.2108 2397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2853.2108 (pause 0.65) 2853.8570 2398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2853.8570 coulda done, we did everything we could. 2855.4164 2399 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2855.4164 (pause 0.21) 2855.6276 2400 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2855.6276 And I- like I s- I- I- like I said I knew when I first got there he 2858.3211 2401 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2858.3211 (pause 0.15) 2858.4757 2402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2858.4757 was pretty much dead, but 2859.6248 2403 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2859.6248 (pause 0.52) 2860.1466 2404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2860.1466 I couldn't say that to her because like I said, I'm not a doctor. 2862.4098 2405 DCB_int_01 2862.7165 [Right.] 2862.9517 2406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2862.8643 [So] I had to go through the, um, proper procedures 2864.9915 2407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2865.5404 from a CPR standpoint. 2866.8525 2408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2866.8525 (pause 1.42) 2868.2701 2409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2868.2701 Uh, I'm not gonna lie, it was mostly for her benefit. 2871.1815 2410 DCB_int_01 2871.7064 Right. 2871.9446 2411 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2872.5811 And I had no p- I had no problem doing it neither. 2874.1374 2412 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2874.1374 (pause 0.92) 2875.0551 2413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2875.0551 I mean, that's the first time I ever- um, 2876.7050 2414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2876.7050 (pause 0.24) 2876.9493 2415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2876.9493 first and only time actually 2878.1528 2416 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2878.1528 (pause 0.93) 2879.0818 2417 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2879.0818 I ever had to, um, perform CPR. 2880.5326 2418 DCB_int_01 2881.1065 So that was when you were close to a dead body, do you ever feel like there was a time when you 2885.0577 2419 DCB_int_01 2885.0577 (pause 0.69) 2885.7484 2420 DCB_int_01 2885.7484 like, were like, oh my god I'm about to die? Like when you were in a situation 2888.8348 2421 DCB_int_01 2888.8348 (pause 0.22) 2889.0550 2422 DCB_int_01 2889.0550 where you thought you were gonna die or get killed? 2891.0035 2423 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2891.1400 No. 2891.4416 2424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2891.4416 (pause 0.71) 2892.1564 2425 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2892.1564 Never. 2892.4098 2426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2892.4098 (pause 1.12) 2893.5288 2427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2893.5288 Never. 2893.8546 2428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2893.8546 (pause 0.38) 2894.2316 2429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2894.2316 The- 2894.4397 2430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2894.4397 (pause 0.29) 2894.7293 2431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2894.7293 /RD-NAME-2/ the c- the circle I hung around and still hang around 2897.1279 2432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2897.1279 (pause 0.85) 2897.9815 2433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2897.9815 I really never hung around nobody that was- that I'm close to that got into like situations like that or 2902.4063 2434 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2902.4063 (pause 0.15) 2902.5579 2435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2902.5579 put theirself in position 2903.6407 2436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2903.6407 (pause 0.42) 2904.0630 2437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2904.0630 to be in- in that situation. 2905.4173 2438 DCB_int_01 2906.6479 So you were always- you were good. 2908.1900 2439 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2908.1779 Yeah, 2908.5308 2440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2908.6786 yeah. 2908.9573 2441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2908.9573 (pause 0.83) 2909.7856 2442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2909.7856 I hang around a lot of positive people, man. 2911.2153 2443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2911.2153 (pause 0.21) 2911.4204 2444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2911.4204 My closest friend is my barber 2912.7294 2445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2912.7294 (pause 0.56) 2913.2942 2446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2913.2942 and I been knowing him ever since we- 2914.6726 2447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2914.6726 (pause 0.27) 2914.9441 2448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2914.9441 I was like, ten years old. 2915.9575 2449 DCB_int_01 2917.6647 [That's a] good thing. 2918.5492 2450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2917.7824 [Yeah.] 2917.9422 2451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2918.5613 Yeah, I mean, all of my friends- I have- really don't have- of course the p- other than the people here, 2921.9039 2452 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2921.9039 (pause 0.41) 2922.3165 2453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2922.3165 but like close- 2923.1279 2454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2923.1279 (pause 0.28) 2923.4114 2455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2923.4114 close friends, I been knowing for decades. 2925.2527 2456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2925.2527 (pause 0.80) 2926.0544 2457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2926.0544 I don't have that many. 2926.8054 2458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2926.8054 (pause 1.05) 2927.8520 2459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2927.8520 But the ones- 2928.3135 2460 DCB_int_01 2927.8581 [That's probably] best. 2928.7268 2461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2928.7268 Yeah. 2928.9500 2462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2929.0797 The ones I do, 2929.7440 2463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2929.7440 (pause 0.35) 2930.0908 2464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2930.0908 we're really close. 2930.8238 2465 DCB_int_01 2931.2702 So let's talk about DC for a few minutes. Um, 2933.8038 2466 DCB_int_01 2933.8038 (pause 0.71) 2934.5134 2467 DCB_int_01 2934.5134 you've grown up here, 2935.5600 2468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2935.5902 [Mm-hm.] 2935.8809 2469 DCB_int_01 2935.7259 [you s-] you've seen a lot of things 2937.2733 2470 DCB_int_01 2937.4814 being kind of, [/you know,/] 2939.1214 2471 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2938.6637 [] 2939.2821 2472 DCB_int_01 2940.0278 in your job and stuff. 2941.1861 2473 DCB_int_01 2941.1861 (pause 0.49) 2941.6747 2474 DCB_int_01 2941.6747 How has the city changed? 2943.2746 2475 DCB_int_01 2943.2746 (pause 0.13) 2943.4030 2476 DCB_int_01 2943.4030 Or do you think it's [changed?] 2944.7605 2477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2944.5968 [I-] it's- it's- yeah, yeah, 2946.0441 2478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2946.5149 it's [changed.] 2947.0828 2479 DCB_int_01 2946.7228 [] 2947.0814 2480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2947.6902 The- the whole attitude has changed I guess. 2949.6539 2481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2949.6539 (pause 0.49) 2950.1449 2482 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2950.1449 I mean, I'm- like I said, growing up you s- you see a lot growing up as far as 2953.2289 2483 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2953.2289 (pause 0.79) 2954.0152 2484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2954.0152 2954.1191 2485 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2954.1191 (pause 1.16) 2955.2743 2486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2955.2743 2955.9689 2487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2955.9689 (pause 1.49) 2957.4638 2488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2957.4638 who you consider to be 2959.0339 2489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2959.0339 (pause 1.07) 2960.1004 2490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2960.1004 as trouble makers, 2961.2613 2491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2961.2613 (pause 1.29) 2962.5470 2492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2962.5470 um, part of the bad crowd. And these were always the older individuals 2966.1597 2493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2966.1597 (pause 0.34) 2966.5033 2494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2966.5033 that stayed in a lot of trouble. 2967.6244 2495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2967.6244 (pause 0.98) 2968.6091 2496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2968.6091 And they- they younger now, 2969.5881 2497 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2969.5881 (pause 1.31) 2970.8992 2498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2970.8992 a lot younger now. Whereas though 2972.4009 2499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2972.4009 (pause 0.21) 2972.6146 2500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2972.6146 of course, 2973.0714 2501 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2973.0714 (pause 0.30) 2973.3718 2502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2973.3718 when you had, like if you wanna call it quote unquote beef, 2976.2024 2503 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2976.2024 (pause 0.40) 2976.6033 2504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2976.6033 with another individual or another neighborhood, 2978.4255 2505 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2978.4255 (pause 1.61) 2980.0404 2506 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2980.0404 you fought. 2980.4793 2507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2980.4793 (pause 1.57) 2982.0511 2508 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2982.0511 For whatever reason, like I said, I still didn't understand the neighborhood thing because it's not your neighborhood, I never really cared. 2986.6945 2509 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2986.6945 (pause 1.08) 2987.7746 2510 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2987.7746 But, um, now, they- nobody fights anymore. 2990.1504 2511 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2990.1504 (pause 1.41) 2991.5582 2512 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2991.5582 At all. I mean, not that fighting was a good thing in general, I mean, but. 2994.0422 2513 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2994.0422 (pause 1.30) 2995.3419 2514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2995.3419 Grab a gun real fast. I mean, I think the- the youth today, I mean, they have the right, I think, 2999.7805 2515 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 2999.7805 (pause 1.04) 3000.8178 2516 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3000.8178 um, 3001.3550 2517 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3001.3550 (pause 0.16) 3001.5138 2518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3001.5138 mindset as far as like, um, not being scared of anything. 3004.3814 2519 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3004.3814 (pause 0.87) 3005.2483 2520 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3005.2483 Scared of anything. 3006.0569 2521 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3006.0569 (pause 0.68) 3006.7327 2522 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3006.7327 But 3007.0908 2523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3007.0908 (pause 0.82) 3007.9138 2524 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3007.9138 truly misguided. 3008.8581 2525 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3008.8581 (pause 0.86) 3009.7187 2526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3009.7187 Have no guidance. 3010.6775 2527 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3010.6775 (pause 0.66) 3011.3394 2528 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3011.3394 And when you have no guidance as a child and you not scared, you- you straight reckless. 3014.5396 2529 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3014.5396 (pause 1.53) 3016.0731 2530 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3016.0731 And cause you, I guess, figure you- 3017.4102 2531 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3017.4102 (pause 0.76) 3018.1697 2532 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3018.1697 you have the mindset it's no consequences for your actions at all. 3021.3253 2533 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3021.3253 (pause 0.43) 3021.7512 2534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3021.7512 You feel you'll never get caught, 3022.9583 2535 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3022.9583 (pause 0.75) 3023.7034 2536 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3023.7034 everything you do you'll get away with and it's a reason for everything that you do that's negative. 3027.2988 2537 DCB_int_01 3028.7577 So do you feel like the city is getting better or [worse?] 3030.8860 2538 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3030.7590 [Worse.] 3031.2961 2539 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3031.4694 I think it's getting worse. 3032.2231 2540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3032.2231 (pause 1.04) 3033.2662 2541 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3033.2662 A lot worse. 3033.9275 2542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3033.9275 (pause 1.00) 3034.9238 2543 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3034.9238 It's no- 3035.3396 2544 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3035.3396 (pause 1.09) 3036.4255 2545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3036.4255 We had a - we always had, uh, a safe haven when we were younger, always had extra activities when we were younger. 3041.4606 2546 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3041.4606 (pause 0.52) 3041.9765 2547 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3041.9765 Like I said the program called OSAY. 3043.5359 2548 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3043.5359 (pause 0.28) 3043.8195 2549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3043.8195 The rec center, it was a whole lot of rec centers back in the day. 3046.3493 2550 DCB_int_01 3046.4301 Mm-hm. 3046.7728 2551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3047.1232 Every corner it was a rec center. Now, I mean, it's- it's nothing. 3049.7488 2552 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3049.7488 (pause 1.92) 3051.6663 2553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3051.6663 It's nothing to fall back on, and I mean, not 3053.1940 2554 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3053.1940 (pause 0.41) 3053.6041 2555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3053.6041 to say that 3054.2077 2556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3054.2077 (pause 0.93) 3055.1381 2557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3055.1381 every, um- 3056.0824 2558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3056.0824 (pause 0.31) 3056.3943 2559 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3056.3943 Cause I- I- like I said, I didn't think my neighborhood was bad, 3058.5573 2560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3058.5573 (pause 0.19) 3058.7479 2561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3058.7479 I mean, you j- 3059.2793 2562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3059.2793 (pause 0.19) 3059.4647 2563 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3059.4647 I'm- I'm never gonna be a person- and I preach this to my daughter, 3061.9222 2564 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3061.9222 (pause 0.60) 3062.5200 2565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3062.5200 you never be a product of your environment. 3064.2758 2566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3064.2758 (pause 0.46) 3064.7384 2567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3064.7384 You don't have to be. 3065.5384 2568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3065.5384 (pause 1.20) 3066.7339 2569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3066.7339 Just because you- you're in bad surroundings, 3068.6717 2570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3068.6717 (pause 0.13) 3068.8045 2571 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3068.8045 shouldn't mean that you should have the same type of mentality, nah. 3071.5803 2572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3071.5803 (pause 1.92) 3073.4978 2573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3073.4978 Because the neighborhood I grew up in, looking at it now, now that I'm older, yeah it was, uh, 3077.3104 2574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3077.3104 (pause 0.58) 3077.8937 2575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3077.8937 pretty rough. 3078.3644 2576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3078.3644 (pause 0.31) 3078.6734 2577 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3078.6734 It was bad. 3079.2597 2578 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3079.2597 (pause 1.10) 3080.3599 2579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3080.3599 But me being a person at a younger age, seeing that, well, it's- it's bad, but 3084.2735 2580 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3084.2735 (pause 0.81) 3085.0850 2581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3085.0850 that don't mean I gotta follow the same suit 3086.6681 2582 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3086.6681 (pause 0.71) 3087.3756 2583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3087.3756 as everybody else. 3088.2362 2584 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3088.2362 (pause 0.43) 3088.6636 2585 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3088.6636 Now, 3089.1372 2586 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3089.1372 (pause 1.06) 3090.2000 2587 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3090.2000 everybody's following everybody. 3091.4279 2588 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3091.4279 (pause 1.00) 3092.4328 2589 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3092.4328 Kids are smoking at a earlier- 3094.0125 2590 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3094.0125 (pause 0.53) 3094.5410 2591 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3094.5410 at a earlier age, 3095.5430 2592 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3095.5430 (pause 0.08) 3095.6239 2593 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3095.6239 drinking at a earlier age, 3096.8859 2594 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3096.8859 (pause 0.38) 3097.2619 2595 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3097.2619 stop going to school at a earlier age, I mean, cause it's no guidance at home. 3100.5309 2596 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3100.5309 (pause 0.79) 3101.3160 2597 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3101.3160 Um, 3101.8011 2598 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3101.8011 (pause 0.21) 3102.0062 2599 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3102.0062 and a lot of people use the excuse 3103.3346 2600 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3103.3346 (pause 0.66) 3103.9901 2601 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3103.9901 that, 3104.2954 2602 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3104.2954 (pause 0.43) 3104.7300 2603 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3104.7300 you know- 3105.0187 2604 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3105.0187 (pause 0.37) 3105.3855 2605 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3105.3855 a lot of, um, esp- and it's happening with g- more g- girls now than ever. 3109.1137 2606 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3109.1137 (pause 0.64) 3109.7525 2607 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3109.7525 Boys has always been like that. 3111.0000 2608 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3111.0000 (pause 0.61) 3111.6094 2609 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3111.6094 That it's no like, predominant male figure in the house 3114.0756 2610 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3114.0756 (pause 2.04) 3116.1121 2611 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3116.1121 I guess to show the young- young man, um, guidance. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, it's not. 3119.5977 2612 DCB_int_01 3120.1874 Yeah. 3120.5274 2613 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3121.0624 It's not. 3121.4331 2614 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3121.4331 (pause 0.65) 3122.0876 2615 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3122.0876 At all. 3122.4861 2616 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3122.4861 (pause 0.94) 3123.4218 2617 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3123.4218 But 3123.7221 2618 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3123.7221 (pause 0.33) 3124.0542 2619 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3124.0542 it wasn't one in my house either. 3125.2527 2620 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3125.2527 (pause 2.24) 3127.4913 2621 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3127.4913 I know times are different then, /but/ I- I know mothers and parents are younger now, 3130.8817 2622 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3130.8817 (pause 0.64) 3131.5233 2623 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3131.5233 but in my household, it was just my mother. 3132.8474 2624 DCB_int_01 3133.5997 Mm. 3133.9665 2625 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3135.2660 But, um, 3135.9042 2626 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3135.9042 (pause 0.14) 3136.0399 2627 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3136.0399 like I said, I /mean, to-/ I agree, I mean, not agree, but I- yeah, it's gotten worse. 3139.7341 2628 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3139.7341 (pause 0.73) 3140.4618 2629 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3140.4618 It's getting worse. 3141.3224 2630 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3141.3224 (pause 0.58) 3141.9005 2631 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3141.9005 And in my personal opinion do I see it getting better any time soon? 3144.6988 2632 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3144.6988 (pause 0.67) 3145.3688 2633 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3145.3688 No, unless it's a drastic change. No I- I don't see it. I want it to, though. 3148.7828 2634 DCB_int_01 3149.8889 [What does] getting better mean? 3151.0498 2635 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3149.9466 [Cause it-] 3150.1946 2636 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3151.6476 Getting better to a point where 3153.5743 2637 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3153.5743 (pause 1.19) 3154.7641 2638 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3154.7641 kids are more respectful, 3156.0463 2639 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3156.0463 (pause 0.30) 3156.3438 2640 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3156.3438 they're staying in school, 3157.3718 2641 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3157.3718 (pause 0.79) 3158.1666 2642 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3158.1666 violence decreases, 3159.8329 2643 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3159.8329 (pause 0.62) 3160.4566 2644 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3160.4566 because it's going like, higher and higher each year. 3162.9691 2645 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3162.9691 (pause 0.81) 3163.7840 2646 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3163.7840 I mean, cause you- you- you get to a point where 3165.6669 2647 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3165.6669 (pause 0.42) 3166.0856 2648 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3166.0856 if you go to a jail, 3167.1166 2649 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3167.1166 (pause 1.24) 3168.3526 2650 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3168.3526 it's more- the population- I mean, /it-/ to me, jail is a business. I- my father been told me this a long time ago, 3173.6985 2651 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3173.6985 (pause 0.93) 3174.6319 2652 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3174.6319 that, um, 3175.4174 2653 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3175.4174 (pause 1.45) 3176.8642 2654 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3176.8642 more kids are getting charges like, at a high rate for everything now. 3179.9605 2655 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3179.9605 (pause 1.20) 3181.1561 2656 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3181.1561 Is it by design? Maybe it is. 3182.8513 2657 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3182.8513 (pause 1.67) 3184.5233 2658 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3184.5233 Cause I figure if you put 3185.3641 2659 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3185.3641 (pause 0.12) 3185.4870 2660 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3185.4870 3185.9418 2661 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3185.9418 (pause 1.01) 3186.9526 2662 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3186.9526 everybody in the same confined neighborhood 3188.9279 2663 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3188.9279 (pause 0.91) 3189.8346 2664 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3189.8346 with no resources, 3191.1602 2665 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3191.1602 (pause 0.77) 3191.9260 2666 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3191.9260 what g- what good is gonna come out of that? 3193.4306 2667 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3193.4306 (pause 1.55) 3194.9814 2668 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3194.9814 No resources at all. 3196.1630 2669 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3196.1630 (pause 0.36) 3196.5240 2670 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3196.5240 Only thing you putting in there 3197.5550 2671 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3197.5550 (pause 0.44) 3197.9968 2672 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3197.9968 carry outs and liquor stores. 3199.1982 2673 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3199.1982 (pause 1.65) 3200.8471 2674 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3200.8471 I mean, what- what are you gonna have to do? 3201.9826 2675 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3201.9826 (pause 1.79) 3203.7702 2676 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3203.7702 You can't- It's- and it's hard to find a job now because- 3206.1498 2677 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3206.1498 (pause 1.03) 3207.1807 2678 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3207.1807 Is it true that, uh, you- you need a diploma or degree to work in McDonalds now or something like that? 3210.6669 2679 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3210.6669 (pause 0.37) 3211.0337 2680 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3211.0337 I [think-] 3211.3884 2681 DCB_int_01 3211.2474 [Think-] I think it's getting to that point. 3212.6451 2682 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3212.6457 Yeah, I mean, it's getting to that point. Now is that by design? Maybe it is. 3215.5835 2683 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3215.5835 (pause 2.88) 3218.4653 2684 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3218.4653 It just- I mean, it's- the system in general I don't- it's a lot of things I don't agree with. 3221.8383 2685 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3221.8383 (pause 0.94) 3222.7797 2686 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3222.7797 Because I've always believed in- My- 3224.4177 2687 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3224.4177 (pause 0.38) 3224.7931 2688 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3224.7931 I used to think my father was a Black Panther because he- 3226.8691 2689 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3226.8691 (pause 0.56) 3227.4326 2690 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3227.4326 he preached this stuff all the time. It's a lot of stuff I learned from him 3230.0380 2691 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3230.0380 (pause 0.81) 3230.8495 2692 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3230.8495 that we never got taught in school. 3232.3800 2693 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3232.3800 (pause 1.37) 3233.7547 2694 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3233.7547 A whole lot of stuff. 3234.7515 2695 DCB_int_01 3235.4648 Like what? 3235.8171 2696 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3236.4756 Um, like the Statue of Liberty. 3238.0004 2697 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3238.0004 (pause 2.17) 3240.1726 2698 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3240.1726 Um, originally it's supposed to have been of a- um, 3242.8496 2699 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3242.8496 (pause 0.95) 3243.7968 2700 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3243.7968 a gift from the Fr- I think from France, /a/ France that, um, 3246.9018 2701 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3246.9018 (pause 1.05) 3247.9501 2702 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3247.9501 when slavery was abolished 3249.2092 2703 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3249.2092 (pause 1.15) 3250.3620 2704 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3250.3620 of a black woman. 3251.2342 2705 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3251.2342 (pause 1.92) 3253.1546 2706 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3253.1546 I don't know- I don't know if she was holding anything. But if you go to the, um, Statue of Liberty now, 3256.8285 2707 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3256.8285 (pause 0.48) 3257.3108 2708 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3257.3108 you can see that it was changed, you can still see the shackles on the feet of the statue of liberty. 3261.2041 2709 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3261.2041 (pause 0.64) 3261.8395 2710 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3261.8395 I was never taught that in school. 3263.1043 2711 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3263.1043 (pause 0.93) 3264.0361 2712 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3264.0361 Never taught that. I taught- I- I- everything I've learned from my father I tell my daughter. 3267.5175 2713 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3267.5175 (pause 0.58) 3268.1009 2714 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3268.1009 Cause I know they not teaching it in school. 3269.3513 2715 DCB_int_01 3269.8486 Mm-hm. 3270.2992 2716 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3271.6818 Um, 3272.2132 2717 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3272.2132 (pause 0.25) 3272.4592 2718 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3272.4592 and it's- Of course, 3273.4885 2719 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3273.4885 (pause 0.17) 3273.6634 2720 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3273.6634 we get taught about the same- we- where we was in school we got taught about the same individuals. 3277.7012 2721 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3277.7012 (pause 0.71) 3278.4145 2722 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3278.4145 I mean, I ain't- it wasn't really no big issue at the time, but now that I look at it- but I'm starting to learn more. 3283.0986 2723 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3283.0986 (pause 1.18) 3284.2745 2724 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3284.2745 I- um, 3285.0109 2725 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3285.0109 (pause 0.82) 3285.8282 2726 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3285.8282 people of color- color contributed 3287.5003 2727 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3287.5003 (pause 0.35) 3287.8468 2728 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3287.8468 to this city 3288.4590 2729 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3288.4590 (pause 0.53) 3288.9938 2730 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3288.9938 than ever. 3289.4386 2731 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3289.4386 (pause 0.76) 3290.1952 2732 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3290.1952 We learned about Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, 3292.0030 2733 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3292.0030 (pause 0.15) 3292.1560 2734 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3292.1560 um, Harriet Tubman, 3293.2476 2735 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3293.2476 (pause 1.02) 3294.2676 2736 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3294.2676 um, 3294.7903 2737 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3294.7903 (pause 0.14) 3294.9318 2738 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3294.9318 Booker T. Washington, 3295.9021 2739 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3295.9021 (pause 1.11) 3297.0082 2740 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3297.0082 um, Frederick Douglass. 3298.1113 2741 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3298.1113 (pause 2.54) 3300.6561 2742 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3300.6561 No k- no in- no inventors, we really never learned about- 3303.0732 2743 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3303.0732 (pause 0.99) 3304.0638 2744 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3304.0638 Charles Drew, that's the only one I remember. 3306.1089 2745 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3306.1089 (pause 0.62) 3306.7327 2746 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3306.7327 But no vented- inventors 3308.2055 2747 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3308.2055 (pause 0.32) 3308.5289 2748 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3308.5289 that we learned about that contributed to the city. I mean, because you gotta figure- 3311.2643 2749 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3311.2643 (pause 1.86) 3313.1212 2750 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3313.1212 Like, um, I can't- I can't remember who it was. 3315.6688 2751 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3315.6688 (pause 1.82) 3317.4882 2752 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3317.4882 3317.6730 2753 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3317.6730 (pause 1.72) 3319.3941 2754 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3319.3941 But anyway, 3320.0266 2755 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3320.0266 (pause 0.32) 3320.3500 2756 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3320.3500 slaves in general invented a lot of stuff. Because 3322.6204 2757 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3322.6204 (pause 0.28) 3322.9034 2758 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3322.9034 why would somebody invent 3324.1423 2759 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3324.1423 (pause 0.69) 3324.8296 2760 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3324.8296 I- I guess a slave owner invent like, a gadget or something to make them do their job better? 3329.0725 2761 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3329.0725 (pause 1.02) 3330.0890 2762 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3330.0890 If I'm doing the job, I'm'a figure out a way myself. 3332.2111 2763 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3332.2111 (pause 1.36) 3333.5694 2764 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3333.5694 Yeah, [to make it easier] for me. 3335.1173 2765 DCB_int_01 3333.9044 [] 3334.6061 2766 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3335.3368 And just that 3336.0587 2767 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3336.0587 (pause 0.46) 3336.5237 2768 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3336.5237 if I see something like that, me being in the position of, I guess, a slave owner, 3339.9146 2769 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3339.9146 (pause 0.98) 3340.8907 2770 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3340.8907 I'm gonna take your idea and patent it. 3342.4205 2771 DCB_int_01 3342.7418 Mm-hm. 3343.1524 2772 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3343.7242 That's happened a lot. 3344.4433 2773 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3344.4433 (pause 0.91) 3345.3501 2774 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3345.3501 I was never taught that in school, though. 3346.5514 2775 DCB_int_01 3347.1694 Yeah. 3347.4264 2776 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3347.8423 I was never taught that in school. 3348.8853 2777 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3348.8853 (pause 1.73) 3350.6123 2778 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3350.6123 But do I think ch- things are going in direction- a positive direction in DC 3355.1381 2779 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3355.1381 (pause 0.18) 3355.3171 2780 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3355.3171 ch- as far as for change? 3356.5358 2781 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3356.5358 (pause 1.27) 3357.8036 2782 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3357.8036 As much as I want it, 3358.5689 2783 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3358.5689 (pause 0.40) 3358.9645 2784 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3358.9645 I don't. 3359.3255 2785 DCB_int_01 3360.4870 What about 3360.8270 2786 DCB_int_01 3360.8270 (pause 0.22) 3361.0472 2787 DCB_int_01 3361.0472 with all these new condos and 3363.0918 2788 DCB_int_01 3363.0918 (pause 2.00) 3365.0936 2789 DCB_int_01 3365.0936 [gentrification] and- 3366.6386 2790 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3365.3824 [] 3365.8358 2791 DCB_int_01 3367.6090 What is your- what do you think about that? 3368.8703 2792 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3369.9978 See a- a lot of people think that- 3371.5399 2793 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3371.5399 (pause 1.54) 3373.0791 2794 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3373.0791 Cause at first, 3373.7260 2795 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3373.7260 (pause 0.14) 3373.8675 2796 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3373.8675 DC was 3374.6848 2797 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3374.6848 (pause 0.71) 3375.3986 2798 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3375.3986 all black 3375.8607 2799 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3375.8607 (pause 0.46) 3376.3169 2800 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3376.3169 for the most part. 3376.9476 2801 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3376.9476 (pause 0.61) 3377.5616 2802 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3377.5616 Now they building these condos, 3379.3319 2803 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3379.3319 (pause 0.28) 3379.6120 2804 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3379.6120 um, new developments, 3380.9462 2805 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3380.9462 (pause 0.33) 3381.2759 2806 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3381.2759 and they moving a majority of the black people that was living in the area to PG. 3384.7269 2807 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3384.7269 (pause 2.04) 3386.7692 2808 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3386.7692 Same thing. 3387.4969 2809 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3387.4969 (pause 0.16) 3387.6587 2810 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3387.6587 You confine people into one area, 3389.3866 2811 DCB_int_01 3389.4058 Mm. 3389.8679 2812 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3390.0036 with no resources, 3391.1067 2813 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3391.1067 (pause 0.47) 3391.5746 2814 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3391.5746 what are you gonna expect to happen? 3392.7389 2815 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3392.7389 (pause 0.30) 3393.0422 2816 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3393.0422 So- 3393.4551 2817 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3393.4551 (pause 1.05) 3394.5034 2818 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3394.5034 and- and m- and me personally I don't think it's for our benefit they building these new developments because 3398.9137 2819 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3398.9137 (pause 0.88) 3399.7887 2820 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3399.7887 if you go down t- Man, I- where- where'd I drive to? I drove by the- um, 3403.1768 2821 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3403.1768 (pause 1.15) 3404.3261 2822 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3404.3261 the wharf. 3404.8488 2823 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3404.8488 (pause 1.71) 3406.5613 2824 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3406.5613 Haven't been past the wharf in a while. 3407.8811 2825 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3407.8811 (pause 0.11) 3407.9942 2826 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3407.9942 I drove past it, didn't recognize the neighborhood. 3409.8338 2827 DCB_int_01 3409.8078 Yup. 3410.0735 2828 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3410.7695 At all. 3411.1895 2829 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3411.1895 (pause 0.81) 3411.9997 2830 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3411.9997 And the stuff they're- I mean, that they're putting up, I mean, it's- 3414.1777 2831 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3414.1777 (pause 0.25) 3414.4232 2832 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3414.4232 Of course they're gonna put in condos that 3416.0259 2833 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3416.0259 (pause 0.21) 3416.2396 2834 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3416.2396 the average, um, 3417.4612 2835 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3417.4612 (pause 0.99) 3418.4552 2836 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3418.4552 person of color 3419.2782 2837 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3419.2782 (pause 0.65) 3419.9308 2838 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3419.9308 can't afford. 3420.6066 2839 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3420.6066 (pause 1.18) 3421.7849 2840 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3421.7849 So, 3422.1834 2841 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3422.1834 (pause 0.58) 3422.7667 2842 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3422.7667 we gonna move you out, but you have the opportunity to move back 3425.0689 2843 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3425.0689 (pause 0.41) 3425.4761 2844 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3425.4761 in once we finish rebuilding. 3426.7843 2845 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3426.7843 (pause 0.42) 3427.2088 2846 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3427.2088 I'm gonna tell you that 3428.0665 2847 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3428.0665 (pause 0.57) 3428.6325 2848 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3428.6325 knowing that once we rebuild and you try to move back you can't afford it. 3432.4768 2849 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3432.4768 (pause 1.97) 3434.4498 2850 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3434.4498 So now you have to move somewhere that's more affordable, 3436.5579 2851 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3436.5579 (pause 0.73) 3437.2856 2852 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3437.2856 in a neighborhood that's worse than the one that we just rebuilt. 3440.0118 2853 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3440.0118 (pause 0.38) 3440.3935 2854 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3440.3935 And nine times out of ten they have been moving a lot of people to PG. 3442.9117 2855 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3442.9117 (pause 0.71) 3443.6250 2856 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3443.6250 They redoing a whole lot of areas, man, 3445.1382 2857 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3445.1382 (pause 0.46) 3445.6032 2858 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3445.6032 in DC. 3446.1958 2859 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3446.1958 (pause 0.54) 3446.7358 2860 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3446.7358 Cause I drove through where I used to live at. 3448.3097 2861 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3448.3097 (pause 1.03) 3449.3435 2862 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3449.3435 It doesn't look the same. 3450.2359 2863 DCB_int_01 3450.6286 Mm-hm. 3451.1166 2864 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3452.5987 Um, 3453.2080 2865 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3453.2080 (pause 3.34) 3456.5527 2866 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3456.5527 I- I- I just don't think 3457.5635 2867 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3457.5635 (pause 0.39) 3457.9504 2868 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3457.9504 that a lot of people, I guess, 3459.3451 2869 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3459.3451 (pause 0.45) 3459.7958 2870 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3459.7958 black people realize exactly what's happening as far as like, the change that's happening in DC. 3463.7065 2871 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3463.7065 (pause 1.76) 3465.4652 2872 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3465.4652 They building a lot of condos. 3466.9068 2873 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3466.9068 (pause 1.41) 3468.3160 2874 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3468.3160 If you notice a lot of schools are closing, too. 3469.9910 2875 DCB_int_01 3471.1115 Mm. 3471.4985 2876 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3471.6660 A whole lot of schools in DC are closing. 3473.5003 2877 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3473.5003 (pause 0.87) 3474.3666 2878 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3474.3666 Um, 3475.0106 2879 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3475.0106 (pause 0.85) 3475.8654 2880 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3475.8654 and a lot of schools are getting overcrowded now, because 3478.2046 2881 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3478.2046 (pause 0.31) 3478.5113 2882 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3478.5113 if it- 3478.7827 2883 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3478.7827 (pause 0.79) 3479.5711 2884 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3479.5711 It's a school on /??/. 3480.7089 2885 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3480.7089 (pause 0.34) 3481.0468 2886 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3481.0468 I can't think of the name of the school. /??/ Street, DC. 3483.2589 2887 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3483.2589 (pause 0.83) 3484.0854 2888 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3484.0854 That just closed but around the corner, it's another school 3486.7104 2889 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3486.7104 (pause 0.18) 3486.8895 2890 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3486.8895 that's still open. 3487.5017 2891 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3487.5017 (pause 1.50) 3488.9976 2892 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3488.9976 Um, 3489.5521 2893 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3489.5521 (pause 0.18) 3489.7288 2894 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3489.7288 majority of kids that go to that school, 3491.2854 2895 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3491.2854 (pause 0.44) 3491.7272 2896 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3491.7272 have to go to that school because of the, um, the distance. 3493.8734 2897 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3493.8734 (pause 0.96) 3494.8351 2898 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3494.8351 /and/ the average person in the city, some of 'em 3496.7411 2899 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3496.7411 (pause 0.50) 3497.2435 2900 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3497.2435 don't have a car to take their kid to like a- uh, 3499.5394 2901 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3499.5394 (pause 0.27) 3499.8051 2902 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3499.8051 3500.0736 2903 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3500.0736 (pause 0.53) 3500.6027 2904 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3500.6027 a private school or something like that. 3502.0610 2905 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3502.0610 (pause 0.54) 3502.6011 2906 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3502.6011 Schools are getting overcrowded, 3503.8637 2907 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3503.8637 (pause 0.69) 3504.5561 2908 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3504.5561 the teachers are getting stressed out because they can't deal with the volume of kids that they getting. 3508.0510 2909 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3508.0510 (pause 1.30) 3509.3505 2910 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3509.3505 Um, they building more private schools and they building more, um, 3512.2880 2911 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3512.2880 (pause 1.39) 3513.6800 2912 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3513.6800 charter schools. 3514.4066 2913 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3514.4066 (pause 0.40) 3514.8062 2914 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3514.8062 I mean, which- I mean, I think it's good, but 3516.4696 2915 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3516.4696 (pause 3.86) 3520.3313 2916 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3520.3313 to build 3520.8857 2917 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3520.8857 (pause 0.21) 3521.0937 2918 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3521.0937 a- like a- um, I can't think of the neighborhood, but. 3523.3698 2919 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3523.3698 (pause 0.40) 3523.7684 2920 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3523.7684 I know they- they tore down the school 3525.3004 2921 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3525.3004 (pause 1.40) 3526.7024 2922 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3526.7024 to put up condos. 3527.7773 2923 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3527.7773 (pause 3.22) 3530.9943 2924 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3530.9943 That's what happening a lot. 3531.9502 2925 DCB_int_01 3532.2448 Yeah. 3532.5422 2926 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3533.8105 So, I mean, and- and do I think it's- in the long term is it beneficial for us? No, because before you look up, 3538.4340 2927 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3538.4340 (pause 0.95) 3539.3818 2928 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3539.3818 DC will look totally di- it's- it look totally different now but it's gonna get way (laughing) totally different than what it is now. 3544.3205 2929 DCB_int_01 3545.6201 Yeah. 3545.9493 2930 DCB_int_01 3545.9493 (pause 0.32) 3546.2670 2931 DCB_int_01 3546.2670 So let me ask you a couple- 3547.5954 2932 DCB_int_01 3547.5954 (pause 0.21) 3547.8004 2933 DCB_int_01 3547.8004 I- I totally agree. 3548.9391 2934 DCB_int_01 3548.9391 (pause 0.13) 3549.0687 2935 DCB_int_01 3549.0687 I- um, 3549.7300 2936 DCB_int_01 3549.7300 (pause 0.41) 3550.1401 2937 DCB_int_01 3550.1401 I think it's really interesting and like to hear- people who have lived here for so long 3553.7721 2938 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3553.7471 Mm-hm. 3554.0849 2939 DCB_int_01 3554.1629 to hear 3554.7295 2940 DCB_int_01 3554.7295 (pause 0.52) 3555.2493 2941 DCB_int_01 3555.2493 what they think about it, right? Cause 3556.7799 2942 DCB_int_01 3556.7799 (pause 0.48) 3557.2621 2943 DCB_int_01 3557.2621 I don't really have a stake, I wasn't born here, 3559.1302 2944 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3559.1392 Mm-hm. 3559.4193 2945 DCB_int_01 3559.6307 I went to college here and I work here. 3561.3346 2946 DCB_int_01 3561.3346 (pause 0.39) 3561.7244 2947 DCB_int_01 3561.7244 So my view, 3562.7737 2948 DCB_int_01 3562.7737 (pause 0.09) 3562.8593 2949 DCB_int_01 3562.8593 I- even going to college here now being here now is still very d- like, it's different, right? From when I went to college here ten years ago to now. 3569.2247 2950 DCB_int_01 3569.2247 (pause 0.75) 3569.9784 2951 DCB_int_01 3569.9784 Um, and I'm- 3570.8049 2952 DCB_int_01 3570.8049 (pause 0.32) 3571.1284 2953 DCB_int_01 3571.1284 I'm fascinated, like 3572.4452 2954 DCB_int_01 3572.4452 (pause 1.53) 3573.9729 2955 DCB_int_01 3573.9729 not necessarily in a good way. 3575.1685 2956 DCB_int_01 3575.1685 (pause 0.66) 3575.8298 2957 DCB_int_01 3575.8298 Um, 3576.7718 2958 DCB_int_01 3576.7718 (pause 0.11) 3576.8844 2959 DCB_int_01 3576.8844 but then to hear people who've 3577.8865 2960 DCB_int_01 3577.8865 (pause 0.27) 3578.1608 2961 DCB_int_01 3578.1608 grown up here all their lives to talk about it. 3580.0148 2962 DCB_int_01 3580.0148 (pause 0.32) 3580.3354 2963 DCB_int_01 3580.3354 And they're like, 3580.9187 2964 DCB_int_01 3580.9187 (pause 0.69) 3581.6124 2965 DCB_int_01 3581.6124 my city's changing. 3582.7242 2966 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3582.8599 Yup. 3583.0708 2967 DCB_int_01 3584.2634 My city's- you know, it is what- you know. So it's just interesting. But I wanna ask you about a couple of things. A piece- a couple of 3590.3256 2968 DCB_int_01 3590.3256 (pause 0.53) 3590.8598 2969 DCB_int_01 3590.8598 DC specific [things.] 3592.4626 2970 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3592.3326 [Mm-hm.] 3592.5868 2971 DCB_int_01 3592.8357 Do you listen to go go music? 3593.8744 2972 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3593.9937 Ye- uh, what? Yes. 3595.0969 2973 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3595.0969 (pause 0.41) 3595.5070 2974 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3595.5070 Born and raised on it. 3596.3127 2975 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3596.3127 (pause 1.06) 3597.3696 2976 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3597.3696 I still do. 3597.8692 2977 DCB_int_01 3598.4040 Tell me about it, tell me about go go music. 3600.6806 2978 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3601.5316 I mean, go go music was- I mean, 3603.1719 2979 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3603.1719 (pause 0.56) 3603.7327 2980 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3603.7327 of course, it started like the- 3605.2863 2981 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3605.2863 (pause 0.90) 3606.1873 2982 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3606.1873 a lot of people know the seventies, it wasn't the eighties. 3608.0850 2983 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3608.0850 (pause 1.24) 3609.3241 2984 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3609.3241 It's a lot of bands that we never heard of 3610.9355 2985 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3610.9355 (pause 1.03) 3611.9636 2986 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3611.9636 that are not known or- or relevant now that started out. 3614.6528 2987 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3614.6528 (pause 1.27) 3615.9205 2988 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3615.9205 Like Trouble Funk or, um, 3617.8092 2989 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3617.8092 (pause 0.59) 3618.3954 2990 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3618.3954 3618.5196 2991 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3618.5196 (pause 2.19) 3620.7120 2992 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3620.7120 t- 3620.8044 2993 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3620.8044 (pause 0.29) 3621.0932 2994 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3621.0932 I can't think of the name of them. But it's a whole lot of bands. But 3623.0598 2995 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3623.0598 (pause 0.57) 3623.6288 2996 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3623.6288 it- I became, I guess, interested in it because 3626.5287 2997 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3626.5287 (pause 1.20) 3627.7329 2998 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3627.7329 hearing my brother listen to it all the time. 3629.6451 2999 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3629.6451 (pause 1.29) 3630.9390 3000 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3630.9390 Um, 3631.5686 3001 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3631.5686 (pause 2.46) 3634.0319 3002 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3634.0319 and, you know, usually at go gos, 3635.9032 3003 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3635.9032 (pause 0.16) 3636.0655 3004 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3636.0655 it's our crowd. 3636.8308 3005 DCB_int_01 3637.0791 Right. 3637.3391 3006 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3639.0256 And it can happen- it- you can go to- uh, to- uh, I guess- Well, growing up it used- they used to play like, rec centers, 3644.1174 3007 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3644.1174 (pause 1.10) 3645.2151 3008 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3645.2151 um, 3645.8799 3009 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3645.8799 (pause 1.03) 3646.9109 3010 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3646.9109 3647.0610 3011 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3647.0610 (pause 0.35) 3647.4105 3012 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3647.4105 football fields or something like that. 3649.0158 3013 DCB_int_01 3649.0952 Mm-hm. 3649.5099 3014 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3649.5590 And I just enjoy the fact that 3651.2201 3015 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3651.2201 (pause 0.33) 3651.5493 3016 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3651.5493 we can go somewhere and listen to music for free. 3653.6343 3017 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3653.6343 (pause 1.28) 3654.9108 3018 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3654.9108 Pretty much. 3655.5577 3019 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3655.5577 (pause 0.39) 3655.9475 3020 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3655.9475 And that's how it was. And I saw how- 3657.4295 3021 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3657.4295 (pause 1.47) 3658.9023 3022 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3658.9023 in general 3659.5723 3023 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3659.5723 (pause 0.18) 3659.7543 3024 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3659.7543 how it brung like, a lot of us like, together. 3661.9785 3025 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3661.9785 (pause 0.57) 3662.5445 3026 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3662.5445 People you didn't know, because 3663.7603 3027 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3663.7603 (pause 0.31) 3664.0693 3028 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3664.0693 if a band played 3665.1031 3029 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3665.1031 (pause 0.16) 3665.2591 3030 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3665.2591 on like, Benning Road, 3666.6597 3031 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3666.6597 (pause 0.43) 3667.0871 3032 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3667.0871 and it's a well-known band, 3668.1475 3033 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3668.1475 (pause 0.98) 3669.1236 3034 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3669.1236 people from- it ain't gonna just be people from Benning Road that go over there to see that band play. 3672.3435 3035 DCB_int_01 3672.7628 Right. 3672.9975 3036 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3673.3953 People from Northwest, 3674.4031 3037 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3674.4031 (pause 0.96) 3675.3677 3038 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3675.3677 Southwest, 3676.1272 3039 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3676.1272 (pause 0.31) 3676.4390 3040 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3676.4390 Southeast. 3677.0715 3041 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3677.0715 (pause 0.96) 3678.0337 3042 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3678.0337 All the neighborhoods came /here./ I mean, of course, there was some altercations, I mean, for the- the dumbest reasons. 3682.3481 3043 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3682.3481 (pause 1.22) 3683.5674 3044 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3683.5674 But I think that's why they starting to fade it out and close a lot of clubs because of that, 3687.5757 3045 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3687.5757 (pause 1.41) 3688.9884 3046 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3688.9884 what happens afterwards. 3690.1436 3047 DCB_int_01 3690.6085 Mm-hm. 3690.9464 3048 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3690.9348 But I- I love- I love go go. 3692.3874 3049 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3692.5203 I listen to it almost every day. 3693.7418 3050 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3693.7418 (pause 0.36) 3694.1057 3051 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3694.1057 [My daughter-] 3694.6116 3052 DCB_int_01 3694.1640 [What makes] go go 3695.4462 3053 DCB_int_01 3695.8910 [unique?] 3696.2981 3054 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3696.2057 [] 3696.5349 3055 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3698.1926 Um, it's cause- 3699.1658 3056 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3699.1658 (pause 0.67) 3699.8392 3057 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3699.8392 it's different 3700.4428 3058 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3700.4428 (pause 0.47) 3700.9106 3059 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3700.9106 from any other music that you ever listen to. 3702.5711 3060 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3702.5711 (pause 0.18) 3702.7559 3061 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3702.7559 I feel it is because- 3703.8764 3062 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3703.8764 (pause 0.30) 3704.1739 3063 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3704.1739 Of course some of the songs they do 3705.5346 3064 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3705.5346 (pause 0.12) 3705.6559 3065 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3705.6559 are like, cover songs 3706.7533 3066 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3706.7533 (pause 0.55) 3707.3049 3067 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3707.3049 of other artists. 3708.1909 3068 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3708.1909 (pause 0.73) 3708.9221 3069 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3708.9221 But the way they do it is totally different 3711.1637 3070 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3711.1637 (pause 1.11) 3712.2696 3071 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3712.2696 from the actual version. 3713.3439 3072 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3713.3439 (pause 0.61) 3713.9504 3073 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3713.9504 Um, it's more upbeat. 3715.1402 3074 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3715.1402 (pause 0.83) 3715.9661 3075 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3715.9661 You can dance to it. 3716.9167 3076 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3716.9167 (pause 0.33) 3717.2517 3077 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3717.2517 Like they take slow songs, 3718.5917 3078 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3718.5917 (pause 0.39) 3718.9787 3079 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3718.9787 and make it a fast song, 3720.0154 3080 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3720.0154 (pause 0.27) 3720.2898 3081 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3720.2898 which I think is good. 3721.1561 3082 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3721.1561 (pause 0.84) 3721.9941 3083 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3721.9941 Um, 3722.5168 3084 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3722.5168 (pause 0.18) 3722.6988 3085 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3722.6988 what makes it unique is 3724.0532 3086 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3724.0532 (pause 1.69) 3725.7455 3087 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3725.7455 the fact that 3726.3866 3088 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3726.3866 (pause 0.32) 3726.7077 3089 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3726.7077 3727.2824 3090 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3727.2824 (pause 0.50) 3727.7848 3091 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3727.7848 there's 3728.9804 3092 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3728.9804 (pause 2.03) 3731.0135 3093 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3731.0135 four or five 3732.0788 3094 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3732.0788 (pause 0.19) 3732.2731 3095 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3732.2731 instruments, 3732.9287 3096 DCB_int_01 3733.1106 Mm. 3733.3346 3097 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3734.1416 um, 3734.6758 3098 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3734.6758 (pause 0.83) 3735.5017 3099 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3735.5017 coming together, 3736.2311 3100 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3736.2311 (pause 0.82) 3737.0496 3101 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3737.0496 at one time to play one song. 3738.7310 3102 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3738.7310 (pause 1.01) 3739.7417 3103 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3739.7417 Of course it takes practice 3741.1047 3104 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3741.1047 (pause 1.26) 3742.3644 3105 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3742.3644 to do it. Cause you can't- well, 3743.7275 3106 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3743.7275 (pause 0.35) 3744.0740 3107 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3744.0740 we're not s- 3744.6227 3108 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3744.6227 (pause 0.13) 3744.7526 3109 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3744.7526 yeah you can't now. 3745.5793 3110 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3745.5793 (pause 4.65) 3750.2286 3111 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3750.2286 I think it's really really 3751.5685 3112 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3751.5685 (pause 0.23) 3751.7996 3113 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3751.7996 unique that 3752.6168 3114 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3752.6168 (pause 0.33) 3752.9518 3115 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3752.9518 in go go 3753.6449 3116 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3753.6449 (pause 0.69) 3754.3385 3117 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3754.3385 I could be in a band, 3755.3291 3118 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3755.3291 (pause 1.40) 3756.7268 3119 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3756.7268 your band playing, 3757.6336 3120 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3757.6336 (pause 0.37) 3758.0003 3121 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3758.0003 I could come on your stage with your band 3759.7740 3122 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3759.7740 (pause 0.58) 3760.3516 3123 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3760.3516 never miss a beat. 3761.1515 3124 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3761.1515 (pause 1.14) 3762.2951 3125 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3762.2951 Cause everybody's in tune with ev- Cause of course, you know, in go go people do some of the same songs. 3766.1279 3126 DCB_int_01 3766.1741 Mm-hm. 3766.4109 3127 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3766.5582 A little different from others, 3767.7888 3128 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3767.7888 (pause 1.00) 3768.7847 3129 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3768.7847 but it's the same songs. 3770.4255 3130 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3770.4255 (pause 0.31) 3770.7345 3131 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3770.7345 Cause I think go go is like, a- um, in my opinion it's like a connection 3773.8505 3132 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3773.8505 (pause 1.07) 3774.9190 3133 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3774.9190 of instruments 3775.7883 3134 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3775.7883 (pause 0.24) 3776.0314 3135 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3776.0314 and individuals. 3777.0075 3136 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3777.0075 (pause 1.05) 3778.0587 3137 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3778.0587 Um, 3778.4486 3138 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3778.4486 (pause 0.19) 3778.6363 3139 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3778.6363 just- 3778.9048 3140 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3778.9048 (pause 0.18) 3779.0897 3141 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3779.0897 I mean, and- and you gotta figure you go to a go go, 3781.1458 3142 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3781.1458 (pause 0.40) 3781.5507 3143 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3781.5507 you gonna be there for a couple of hours. 3782.9111 3144 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3782.9111 (pause 0.53) 3783.4422 3145 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3783.4422 It's not /just that/ you going in and see them play one 3785.7554 3146 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3785.7554 (pause 0.33) 3786.0846 3147 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3786.0846 or two songs, nah. 3787.1912 3148 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3787.1912 (pause 0.70) 3787.8929 3149 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3787.8929 A variety of songs you will hear one time 3790.0213 3150 DCB_int_01 3790.8183 Mm. 3791.1620 3151 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3791.1885 from other artists that you'll- And then it's- and they do songs that they know you will like. 3794.3854 3152 DCB_int_01 3797.4615 Mm. 3797.7272 3153 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3797.6839 But I l- I love go go, man. 3798.8072 3154 DCB_int_01 3799.2751 What's your favorite- who are your favorite bands? 3800.8981 3155 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3800.5208 3800.6080 3156 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3801.1076 Now, um, 3802.1963 3157 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3802.1963 (pause 1.18) 3803.3803 3158 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3803.3803 of course Northeast Groovers who's been around forever. 3805.3456 3159 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3805.3456 (pause 1.68) 3807.0282 3160 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3807.0282 Um, 3807.7213 3161 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3807.7213 (pause 1.17) 3808.8885 3162 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3808.8885 3809.0127 3163 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3809.0127 (pause 0.97) 3809.9859 3164 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3809.9859 I like Junkyard and Backyard a little bit. 3811.7215 3165 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3811.7215 (pause 0.21) 3811.9323 3166 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3811.9323 But 3812.1258 3167 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3812.1258 (pause 0.37) 3812.4955 3168 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3812.4955 Northeast Groovers. 3813.2492 3169 DCB_int_01 3813.2781 Northeast Groovers? 3813.9714 3170 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3813.9972 Yeah. 3814.2340 3171 DCB_int_01 3814.4448 What about mumbo sauce? Are you a mumbo sauce eater? 3816.9375 3172 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3817.3592 Um, 3818.0618 3173 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3818.0618 (pause 1.03) 3819.0948 3174 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3819.0948 3819.7908 3175 DCB_int_01 3820.7587 3821.9687 3176 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3822.9188 Yes I am. 3824.5765 3177 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3824.5765 (pause 0.55) 3825.1257 3178 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3825.1257 Not as much I was as a child. 3826.9277 3179 DCB_int_01 3827.2107 Mm-hm. 3827.5602 3180 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3828.7529 But yes I am. 3829.5542 3181 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3829.5542 (pause 0.38) 3829.9369 3182 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3829.9369 Not that I'm a mumbo sauce connoisseur, 3832.3777 3183 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3832.3777 (pause 0.36) 3832.7329 3184 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3832.7329 it's two different kinds. 3833.7205 3185 DCB_int_01 3833.6685 Okay tell me about the mumbo sauce. 3835.1154 3186 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3835.2164 Uh, it's one 'em got a more tangy like, tastes like barbecue- 3838.9568 3187 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3838.9568 (pause 0.38) 3839.3322 3188 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3839.3322 close to barbecue type flavor. 3840.5971 3189 DCB_int_01 3840.6981 Mm-hm. 3840.9835 3190 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3841.2041 And the other one is a little more sweeter 3842.9743 3191 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3842.9743 (pause 0.71) 3843.6876 3192 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3843.6876 and more brighter. 3844.3460 3193 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3844.3460 (pause 0.56) 3844.9092 3194 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3844.9092 One is the same color as barbecue sauce, 3846.8094 3195 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3846.8094 (pause 0.92) 3847.7312 3196 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3847.7312 and it tastes like barbecue sauce a little bit like a tangy, like, Kansas City barbecue sauce. 3851.7597 3197 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3851.7597 (pause 0.44) 3852.2044 3198 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3852.2044 The other one, 3852.9437 3199 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3852.9437 (pause 0.84) 3853.7818 3200 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3853.7818 is the one when you eat it and it gets on your fingers and you eat it, 3856.2782 3201 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3856.2782 (pause 0.88) 3857.1548 3202 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3857.1548 the color of the barbecue s- I mean, the mumbo sauce is still on your fingers. 3859.6216 3203 DCB_int_01 3859.6245 Mm-hm. 3860.0085 3204 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3860.3522 It's like a brighter color though. 3861.4380 3205 DCB_int_01 3861.6084 [Where do you] get your mumbo sauce from? 3863.2697 3206 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3861.6113 [I still eat-] 3862.0127 3207 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3864.2485 [Um.] 3865.1812 3208 DCB_int_01 3864.6672 [Like where do you] go to order your mumbo sauce. 3866.8472 3209 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3867.1450 Certain carry outs. 3868.1182 3210 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3868.1182 (pause 0.12) 3868.2395 3211 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3868.2395 Or, I found out, 3869.3224 3212 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3869.3224 (pause 1.28) 3870.6023 3213 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3870.6023 um, 3871.1221 3214 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3871.1221 (pause 0.59) 3871.7141 3215 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3871.7141 you can get it at the grocery store now. 3872.9194 3216 DCB_int_01 3872.9241 Capital [City.] 3873.6175 3217 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3873.3660 [Cap-] what? [Yes.] 3874.6966 3218 DCB_int_01 3874.3218 [Yes.] 3875.0126 3219 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3875.0588 I got two bottles [at the house ready to ] 3876.7482 3220 DCB_int_01 3875.7490 [] 3877.8773 3221 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3877.7156 [And actually] I- um, 3878.9764 3222 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3879.2953 I s- 3879.5686 3223 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3879.5686 (pause 0.37) 3879.9398 3224 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3879.9398 it was like a year ago for my birthday, 3881.5859 3225 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3881.5859 (pause 0.24) 3881.8285 3226 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3881.8285 I went- 3882.2328 3227 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3882.2328 (pause 0.30) 3882.5360 3228 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3882.5360 they had like a- uh, a expo at the convention center. 3884.6319 3229 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3884.6319 (pause 0.56) 3885.1871 3230 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3885.1871 Capital City was there. 3886.1579 3231 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3886.1579 (pause 0.40) 3886.5593 3232 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3886.5593 And that was my first time tasting it, I been buying it every since. 3888.7082 3233 DCB_int_01 3888.9072 Mm-hm. 3889.3685 3234 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3889.4818 I love it. 3889.8979 3235 DCB_int_01 3891.1256 Capital City actually sponsored /RD-NAME-3/ when we were doing- Cause when they go to Youth of the Year, the competition they have [to take] gifts. 3896.2741 3236 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3895.5446 [Uh-huh.] 3895.8539 3237 DCB_int_01 3896.5957 When they go to regionals they have to take gifts for the other contestants, 3898.7215 3238 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3898.7270 Mm-hm. 3899.0510 3239 DCB_int_01 3899.1861 And so she gave all the other contestants mumbo sauce. 3901.6091 3240 DCB_int_01 3901.6091 (pause 0.27) 3901.8782 3241 DCB_int_01 3901.8782 And they sponsored- 3902.8023 3242 DCB_int_01 3902.8023 (pause 0.15) 3902.9496 3243 DCB_int_01 3902.9496 they sponsored it for her they gave it as long as she could post- they could post a 3906.0020 3244 DCB_int_01 3906.0020 (pause 0.29) 3906.2937 3245 DCB_int_01 3906.2937 picture on their Instagram to tell her good luck for the competition. 3908.6132 3246 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3908.6536 Oh that was neat. 3909.2225 3247 DCB_int_01 3909.2543 It was really cute. 3909.9156 3248 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3909.9214 That was neat. 3910.3907 3249 DCB_int_01 3910.4326 That's how I- I didn't know they were sold in grocery stores until- 3912.9051 3250 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3912.9658 Yeah [they do now.] 3913.5607 3251 DCB_int_01 3913.1650 [until] /RD-NAME-4/ brought it to my attention. 3915.2624 3252 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3915.5504 Wow. 3915.8883 3253 DCB_int_01 3916.4658 Yup. 3916.7805 3254 DCB_int_01 3916.7805 (pause 0.48) 3917.2571 3255 DCB_int_01 3917.2571 Okay, so what- do you have any specific carry outs that you like? 3919.9531 3256 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3920.6018 [Uh.] 3921.3295 3257 DCB_int_01 3920.9772 [You know], some people- like, they have they specific ones 3923.1142 3258 DCB_int_01 3923.3429 [on this street], they have to go to this only one. 3925.6070 3259 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3923.3516 [] 3924.0504 3260 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3925.9073 You know what, /RD-NAME-2/? 3926.5398 3261 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3926.5398 (pause 0.24) 3926.7795 3262 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3926.7795 The older I got the more health conscious I got. 3928.9338 3263 DCB_int_01 3929.1365 3929.9595 3264 DCB_int_01 3929.9595 (pause 0.33) 3930.2859 3265 DCB_int_01 3930.2859 So no, /no I don't even do that/. 3931.3804 3266 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3931.3630 I still go to the carry out, but not as much as I used to. Like, 3934.4299 3267 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3934.9647 to go get a steak and cheese from the carry out, I don't do that no more. 3937.5032 3268 DCB_int_01 3938.2222 Mm. 3938.9240 3269 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3939.2792 I don't do that no more. I think I'm more health conscious now because I'm getting older. 3942.0261 3270 DCB_int_01 3942.5517 Your cholesterol matters. 3943.4637 3271 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3943.5567 Yeah it does. 3944.4115 3272 DCB_int_01 3944.5530 [] 3947.2768 3273 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3945.2437 [Matters a- matters a whole lot.] 3946.6411 3274 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3946.6411 (pause 0.53) 3947.1699 3275 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3947.1699 [And] my family 3948.1460 3276 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3948.2211 has a history of 3949.2771 3277 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3949.2771 (pause 0.88) 3950.1536 3278 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3950.1536 high blood pressure. 3950.9334 3279 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3950.9334 (pause 0.54) 3951.4763 3280 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3951.4763 S- diabetes a little bit, [but] 3953.1599 3281 DCB_int_01 3953.0097 [Mm-hm.] 3953.3777 3282 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3953.5613 I'm more conscious now. And, of course, if I want something, 3955.8293 3283 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3955.8293 (pause 1.03) 3956.8569 3284 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3956.8569 I cook it myself. 3957.6770 3285 DCB_int_01 3957.9456 Right. 3958.2696 3286 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3958.8033 So I'm not even gonna lie, when it comes to, um, cooking, I'm kind of arrogant. 3961.4684 3287 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3961.4684 (pause 1.52) 3962.9884 3288 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3962.9884 To the point where if I eat something, man I can make this better than this. 3965.6817 3289 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3965.6817 (pause 0.85) 3966.5294 3290 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3966.5294 I'm like that with all the food now. It's /just/ time 3968.4210 3291 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3968.4210 (pause 0.42) 3968.8455 3292 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3968.8455 when, uh, we'll go out to dinner, 3970.0815 3293 DCB_int_01 3970.5955 You like- 3970.8809 3294 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3970.9940 she'll wait on my response 3972.6927 3295 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3972.6927 (pause 0.44) 3973.1374 3296 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3973.1374 after I eat something to see, if I'm like, man, I- I don't like it. 3975.1473 3297 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3975.1473 (pause 1.70) 3976.8425 3298 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3976.8425 But I- I don't eat carry out that much no more though. 3978.5353 3299 DCB_int_01 3979.5374 [Cause you-] you grown. 3980.4153 3300 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3979.5547 [I don't.] 3979.8637 3301 DCB_int_01 3980.5453 I'm like that with coffee, I'm kind of a coffee snob so I get it, [I understand.] 3983.6474 3302 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3983.0496 [Oh I n- I've never] liked coffee. 3984.2123 3303 DCB_int_01 3984.5195 Well, okay so we won't 3985.7411 3304 DCB_int_01 3985.7411 (pause 0.16) 3985.9028 3305 DCB_int_01 3985.9028 have coffee [together /RD-NAME-2/] that's what you're telling me. 3988.1582 3306 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3986.6074 [] 3986.9701 3307 DCB_int_01 3988.4418 Okay I want you to do one other thing for [me and then] I'll let you go to- 3990.8618 3308 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3989.8799 [Mm-hm.] 3990.1239 3309 DCB_int_01 3991.3065 to Lowe's cause I know you gotta get your- 3992.9959 3310 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3993.4181 [But one] thing I wanted to mention [though.] 3995.1768 3311 DCB_int_01 3993.9148 [/??/] 3994.2388 3312 DCB_int_01 3994.2388 (pause 0.78) 3995.0180 3313 DCB_int_01 3995.0180 [Uh-huh.] Go- please, p- anything you wanna [mention.] 3997.2936 3314 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3995.5002 3995.5753 3315 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3995.5753 (pause 1.58) 3997.1521 3316 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3997.1521 [One] thing, and I forgot to mention it, 3998.7606 3317 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 3998.9142 I think that did change my childhood. 4000.7105 3318 DCB_int_01 4000.8000 Mm-hm. 4001.1280 3319 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4001.7934 When I was in junior high school 4003.8467 3320 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4003.8467 (pause 0.80) 4004.6501 3321 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4004.6501 I actually had a- like a 4006.0911 3322 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4006.0911 (pause 0.93) 4007.0239 3323 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4007.0239 if you wanna call it a job 4008.3119 3324 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4008.3119 (pause 0.12) 4008.4360 3325 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4008.4360 after school 4009.0809 3326 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4009.0809 (pause 0.40) 4009.4791 3327 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4009.4791 where we got paid a /stipend/ like, 4010.7209 3328 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4010.7209 (pause 0.28) 4010.9981 3329 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4010.9981 seventy-five dollars a month or something like that. 4012.7648 3330 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4012.7648 (pause 0.74) 4013.5019 3331 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4013.5019 I was in a program called the- um, 4015.2808 3332 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4015.2808 (pause 1.66) 4016.9419 3333 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4016.9419 the Ward Eight Youth 4018.0530 3334 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4018.0530 (pause 0.39) 4018.4465 3335 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4018.4465 Substance Abuse Prevention Initiative Program. 4021.6612 3336 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4021.6612 (pause 1.13) 4022.7903 3337 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4022.7903 Um, and they taught us how to be counselors. 4024.7830 3338 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4024.7830 (pause 0.76) 4025.5425 3339 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4025.5425 And it was instances where 4026.8166 3340 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4026.8166 (pause 0.66) 4027.4721 3341 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4027.4721 after we been there for a while, 4028.8525 3342 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4028.8525 (pause 0.51) 4029.3608 3343 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4029.3608 we were one on one with individuals 4031.1137 3344 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4031.1137 (pause 0.19) 4031.3072 3345 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4031.3072 probably 4031.6682 3346 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4031.6682 (pause 0.36) 4032.0326 3347 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4032.0326 twice my age. 4033.0838 3348 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4033.0838 (pause 1.43) 4034.5132 3349 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4034.5132 Um, telling me about their problems they had with drug addiction, 4037.6962 3350 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4037.6962 (pause 0.76) 4038.4586 3351 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4038.4586 uh, 4039.0882 3352 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4039.0882 (pause 0.39) 4039.4751 3353 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4039.4751 with they kids. And you gotta imagine me, I'm like fifteen sixteen 4043.2501 3354 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4043.2501 (pause 1.16) 4044.4110 3355 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4044.4110 listening to 4045.2225 3356 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4045.2225 (pause 0.21) 4045.4304 3357 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4045.4304 somebody who's like, forty 4046.7357 3358 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4046.7357 (pause 0.95) 4047.6830 3359 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4047.6830 telling me about the problems that they have. 4049.1072 3360 DCB_int_01 4050.0631 Wow. (whispered) 4050.3698 3361 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4050.7533 And it's- I may- looking at it, I mean, 4052.3590 3362 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4052.3590 (pause 0.28) 4052.6420 3363 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4052.6420 being in the situation never dawned on me. Looking at it now I was like, dang I was 4055.4860 3364 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4055.4860 (pause 0.18) 4055.6632 3365 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4055.6632 fifteen years old, listen to somebody- 4057.5057 3366 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4057.5057 (pause 0.37) 4057.8724 3367 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4057.8724 somebody's problem, giving them guidance or what I think 4060.1861 3368 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4060.1861 (pause 0.62) 4060.8041 3369 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4060.8041 they should do, or some resources they should reach out to. 4063.1520 3370 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4063.1520 (pause 0.79) 4063.9375 3371 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4063.9375 And, um, 4064.5647 3372 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4064.5647 (pause 0.99) 4065.5523 3373 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4065.5523 my mentor 4066.2643 3374 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4066.2643 (pause 0.50) 4066.7608 3375 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4066.7608 a guy named /RD-NAME-5/ and I- 4068.2582 3376 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4068.2582 (pause 0.25) 4068.5095 3377 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4068.5095 I ran into him like a couple years ago I been friends with him ever since. 4070.8781 3378 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4070.8781 (pause 0.48) 4071.3604 3379 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4071.3604 That was one of the most positive people I've ever met, man. 4073.5869 3380 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4073.5869 (pause 1.25) 4074.8321 3381 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4074.8321 Cause he was the leader of the, um, organization. Cause it was- it was through, um, 4078.2484 3382 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4078.2484 (pause 1.80) 4080.0447 3383 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4080.0447 um, U- 4080.4807 3384 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4080.4807 (pause 0.24) 4080.7181 3385 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4080.7181 UPO. 4081.2119 3386 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4081.2119 (pause 0.23) 4081.4372 3387 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4081.4372 United- it's United Planning Organization. 4083.1352 3388 DCB_int_01 4083.2132 Mm-hm. 4083.5540 3389 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4083.8485 I don't know if they still exist but they was the ones that was, um, funding the program. 4087.1008 3390 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4087.1008 (pause 0.83) 4087.9296 3391 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4087.9296 Um, 4088.4812 3392 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4088.4812 (pause 0.51) 4088.9895 3393 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4088.9895 and it was like twenty of us. 4090.1677 3394 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4090.1677 (pause 0.79) 4090.9624 3395 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4090.9624 We go there after school every day, 4092.3833 3396 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4092.3833 (pause 0.84) 4093.2236 3397 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4093.2236 Um, 4093.8214 3398 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4093.8214 (pause 0.21) 4094.0293 3399 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4094.0293 we got taught about, um, 4095.5657 3400 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4095.5657 (pause 0.59) 4096.1606 3401 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4096.1606 drugs in general, 4097.2065 3402 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4097.2065 (pause 0.84) 4098.0498 3403 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4098.0498 um, life in general. 4099.5515 3404 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4099.5515 (pause 0.29) 4099.8374 3405 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4099.8374 Sometimes individuals come there with 4102.1621 3406 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4102.1621 (pause 0.24) 4102.4023 3407 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4102.4023 issues at home theirselves. 4103.9820 3408 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4103.9820 (pause 0.67) 4104.6520 3409 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4104.6520 We'll discuss it while we was there. 4105.8793 3410 DCB_int_01 4107.2568 Wow. (whispered) 4107.6236 3411 DCB_int_01 4107.6236 (pause 0.72) 4108.3432 3412 DCB_int_01 4108.3432 And [you /were/] fifteen. [So- and this] was the highlight of- this was 4110.9914 3413 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4108.4212 [And-] 4108.5944 3414 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4108.5944 (pause 0.55) 4109.1460 3415 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4109.1460 [Fif-] 4109.6139 3416 DCB_int_01 4111.3408 crack [heroin, this] is the highlight of it in DC. 4114.4862 3417 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4112.2245 [Yes.] 4112.8223 3418 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4112.8223 (pause 1.66) 4114.4804 3419 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4114.4804 Yeah, and programs like that 4115.9619 3420 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4116.1467 do not exist [anymore] 4117.3890 3421 DCB_int_01 4117.2672 [Mm-mm.] 4117.8130 3422 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4117.9834 at all. 4118.3911 3423 DCB_int_01 4119.1709 Cause that was all Marion Barry stuff, right? 4120.8343 3424 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4120.8314 Yup, it was. 4121.5909 3425 DCB_int_01 4121.6342 Yup. 4121.9259 3426 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4121.9894 Yup, it was. 4122.7431 3427 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4122.7431 (pause 0.25) 4122.9915 3428 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4122.9915 And I think that was my f- When I- I was there for like a year, that's- I met him one- I met him like once or twice. 4127.2083 3429 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4127.2083 (pause 0.81) 4128.0227 3430 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4128.0227 Cool guy, man. 4128.6811 3431 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4128.6811 (pause 0.59) 4129.2702 3432 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4129.2702 Real cool guy. 4129.9552 3433 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4129.9552 (pause 1.36) 4131.3154 3434 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4131.3154 But I bring that up because I think that 4133.1514 3435 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4133.1514 (pause 0.19) 4133.3369 3436 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4133.3369 really changed my mind as far as like, um- 4135.7546 3437 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4135.7546 (pause 1.84) 4137.5941 3438 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4137.5941 We do have a lot of problems in our city. 4139.2113 3439 DCB_int_01 4140.2972 Mm-hm. 4140.6235 3440 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4140.9966 Me being naive at that age- Well, I'm not gonna say naive, /really/ I 4144.0144 3441 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4144.0144 (pause 0.15) 4144.1617 3442 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4144.1617 just really- I didn't really 4145.3780 3443 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4145.3780 (pause 0.64) 4146.0191 3444 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4146.0191 see it as- as- as a concern. 4147.4717 3445 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4147.4717 (pause 1.03) 4148.5056 3446 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4148.5056 Other than my family, 4149.3921 3447 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4149.3921 (pause 0.60) 4149.9899 3448 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4149.9899 that was my concern. 4150.8646 3449 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4150.8646 (pause 0.57) 4151.4373 3450 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4151.4373 But going to that program, seeing all these people with all these problems, 4154.3396 3451 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4154.3396 (pause 0.43) 4154.7728 3452 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4154.7728 drug addiction, 4155.5092 3453 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4155.5092 (pause 0.69) 4156.1965 3454 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4156.1965 uh, 4156.4304 3455 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4156.4304 (pause 0.72) 4157.1471 3456 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4157.1471 kids leaving the house running away, 4158.8712 3457 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4158.8712 (pause 0.39) 4159.2610 3458 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4159.2610 seeing it from the outside, all these individuals. And 4162.4642 3459 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4162.4642 (pause 0.36) 4162.8223 3460 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4162.8223 those just the ones I came in contact with. I knew it was more, had to be more 4166.4119 3461 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4166.4119 (pause 0.79) 4167.2037 3462 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4167.2037 that, um- 4167.8997 3463 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4167.8997 (pause 2.31) 4170.2129 3464 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4170.2129 From then on, I always took a liking to like, 4172.8905 3465 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4172.8905 (pause 0.29) 4173.1764 3466 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4173.1764 kids. I used to coach football and basketball. 4174.9986 3467 DCB_int_01 4175.5473 Mm. 4175.8881 3468 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4176.1855 I've always wanted to be in a position where I'm- 4178.0915 3469 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4178.0915 (pause 1.42) 4179.5071 3470 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4179.5071 I'm I guess 4180.5092 3471 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4180.5092 (pause 0.56) 4181.0723 3472 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4181.0723 can play a part in a child's life 4182.5896 3473 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4182.5896 (pause 0.83) 4183.4173 3474 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4183.4173 in any type of way. 4184.3679 3475 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4184.3679 (pause 0.69) 4185.0610 3476 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4185.0610 I mean, because I ran into problems when I was coaching whereas though 4187.6139 3477 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4187.6139 (pause 0.38) 4187.9979 3478 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4187.9979 it was a single mother, child's really really really spoiled. 4190.5745 3479 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4190.5745 (pause 1.24) 4191.8105 3480 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4191.8105 No father figure in his life, 4193.3901 3481 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4193.3901 (pause 0.92) 4194.3085 3482 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4194.3085 um, 4194.7676 3483 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4194.7676 (pause 0.32) 4195.0830 3484 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4195.0830 really really good 4195.9580 3485 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4195.9580 (pause 0.14) 4196.0937 3486 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4196.0937 at a sport 4196.5991 3487 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4196.5991 (pause 0.36) 4196.9601 3488 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4196.9601 but had no guidance. 4197.9881 3489 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4197.9881 (pause 0.79) 4198.7736 3490 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4198.7736 Every little instance 4199.7994 3491 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4199.7994 (pause 0.15) 4199.9524 3492 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4199.9524 we had during practice, 4201.0152 3493 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4201.0152 (pause 0.53) 4201.5408 3494 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4201.5408 temper tantrum. 4202.2165 3495 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4202.2165 (pause 0.26) 4202.4764 3496 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4202.4764 Cussing, yelling, screaming. 4203.6180 3497 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4203.6180 (pause 0.84) 4204.4546 3498 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4204.4546 And 4204.9369 3499 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4204.9369 (pause 0.62) 4205.5554 3500 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4205.5554 I guess before he came to our program- And cause I used to coach at number eleven boys club. It don't [exist no more though.] 4209.7284 3501 DCB_int_01 4209.2317 [Yeah,] I know number eleven. 4210.6669 3502 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4210.6559 And, um, 4211.9988 3503 DCB_int_01 4212.4348 Miss /RD-NAME-1/ used to be the branch director there. 4214.1135 3504 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4214.7769 [Who?] 4214.9790 3505 DCB_int_01 4214.7942 [And she-] 4215.1119 3506 DCB_int_01 4215.4642 Miss /RD-NAME-1/, [she was] over /at-/ 4216.8307 3507 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4215.9470 [Oh really?] 4216.3369 3508 DCB_int_01 4217.3130 And then when she- 4218.3526 3509 DCB_int_01 4218.3526 (pause 0.59) 4218.9475 3510 DCB_int_01 4218.9475 But then she became the regional director, mm-hm. 4220.6773 3511 DCB_int_01 4220.6773 (pause 0.18) 4220.8535 3512 DCB_int_01 4220.8535 But she used to be over [at number] eleven. 4222.4395 3513 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4221.6598 [Oh wow.] 4222.0184 3514 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4222.5925 That's [where the po- the police department-] police department was there too, [right?] 4225.0154 3515 DCB_int_01 4222.7716 [And then /RD-NAME-3/.] 4223.9609 3516 DCB_int_01 4223.9609 (pause 0.87) 4224.8277 3517 DCB_int_01 4224.8277 [Mm-hm], /RD-NAME-3/. All the number clubs were police clubs. 4228.1378 3518 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4228.4237 Oh, [okay okay.] 4229.4373 3519 DCB_int_01 4229.0330 [And all] the 4229.7925 3520 DCB_int_01 4230.1159 clubs that have names are- um, 4232.8276 3521 DCB_int_01 4232.8276 (pause 0.47) 4233.2960 3522 DCB_int_01 4233.2960 were- So, you know, it was Greater Washington and it was Metropolitan Police. 4236.6517 3523 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4236.7210 Mm-hm. 4236.9520 3524 DCB_int_01 4236.8972 So all the number clubs were police clubs. 4239.0030 3525 DCB_int_01 4239.3409 All the name clubs were Greater Washington [clubs.] 4241.7695 3526 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4241.5905 [Mm-hm.] 4241.9158 3527 DCB_int_01 4242.6792 4242.7658 3528 DCB_int_01 4242.7658 (pause 0.08) 4242.8409 3529 DCB_int_01 4242.8409 Um, 4243.3543 3530 DCB_int_01 4243.3543 (pause 0.61) 4243.9649 3531 DCB_int_01 4243.9649 and so number eleven, number two, number fourteen, number six, those are all police 4247.6873 3532 DCB_int_01 4247.6873 (pause 0.11) 4247.7970 3533 DCB_int_01 4247.7970 department cause they're all 4248.5739 3534 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4248.7702 Yeah. 4249.0042 3535 DCB_int_01 4249.0047 station numbers. 4249.8234 3536 DCB_int_01 4249.8234 (pause 1.01) 4250.8356 3537 DCB_int_01 4250.8356 4250.8905 3538 DCB_int_01 4250.8905 (pause 0.09) 4250.9800 3539 DCB_int_01 4250.9800 Um, but yeah she used to be other there. So I- I know of number eleven, [I've heard.] /RD-NAME-2/ 4254.7637 3540 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4253.7618 [Mm-hm.] 4254.0913 3541 DCB_int_01 4255.1997 from [/?/] 4255.9968 3542 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4255.7080 [/RD-NAME-2/ was-] yeah he was a branch director there I [think.] 4257.4753 3543 DCB_int_01 4257.2732 [He] was, 4257.7584 3544 DCB_int_01 4257.9721 uh-uh, [tee- teen-] 4260.1789 3545 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4258.3590 [Or /started/ teen, uh, sports.] 4259.7977 3546 DCB_int_01 4260.3378 teen director? 4261.0471 3547 DCB_int_01 4261.0471 (pause 0.19) 4261.2330 3548 DCB_int_01 4261.2330 Teens, [he did teens.] Cause they- 4262.7405 3549 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4261.8539 [He was?] 4262.2957 3550 DCB_int_01 4263.0408 he took the keen- teens to Keystone. 4264.3548 3551 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4264.4304 Yeah cause I knew him before I started here. 4265.8945 3552 DCB_int_01 4265.9061 Mm-hm. 4266.2902 3553 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4266.3133 I met him [at] 4266.9998 3554 DCB_int_01 4266.7118 [From number eleven, mm-hm.] 4267.8958 3555 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4267.3443 [number eleven, yeah.] 4268.1049 3556 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4269.6141 But, um, 4270.2494 3557 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4270.2494 (pause 0.14) 4270.3915 3558 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4270.3915 they don't have programs like that anymore, though. 4272.6332 3559 DCB_int_01 4273.7876 Yeah. 4274.0889 3560 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4274.1139 I wish they did but they don't. 4275.2200 3561 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4275.2200 (pause 0.99) 4276.2140 3562 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4276.2140 At all. 4276.6067 3563 DCB_int_01 4276.9590 Cause it gives you a very different perspective. 4278.4549 3564 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4279.4137 Yes it does, 4280.3147 3565 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4280.3147 (pause 0.40) 4280.7103 3566 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4280.7103 seeing that you're not the only one that have- have issues or problems. 4283.6738 3567 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4283.6738 (pause 0.61) 4284.2803 3568 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4284.2803 It's people with issues or problems that 4285.9090 3569 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4285.9090 (pause 0.31) 4286.2151 3570 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4286.2151 super exceed yours. 4287.4113 3571 DCB_int_01 4287.7029 Mm-hm. 4288.0928 3572 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4288.2487 And if you in a position to help, 4289.3354 3573 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4289.3354 (pause 0.72) 4290.0537 3574 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4290.0537 you put yours to the side. 4291.1337 3575 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4291.1337 (pause 0.10) 4291.2348 3576 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4291.2348 And that's [how I always] been, put yours to the side to try and help them. 4293.6034 3577 DCB_int_01 4291.5732 [Mm.] 4291.9710 3578 DCB_int_01 4294.4495 Wow. 4294.7787 3579 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4295.0040 I love working with kids though. 4296.0494 3580 DCB_int_01 4296.3699 And now you do safety and kids. [So-] and I think 4298.6090 3581 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4297.9011 [Yup.] 4298.1234 3582 DCB_int_01 4298.8743 this is the marriage of both your [worlds.] 4300.7312 3583 DCB_se3_ag3_m_02 4300.4944 [Yup.] 4300.7375