Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 0.5873 Appreciate you taking the time out of your 2.3078 2 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2.3078 (pause 0.37) 2.6753 3 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2.6753 busy day to 3.9861 4 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3.9861 (pause 0.31) 4.2961 5 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 4.2961 do this 5.0023 6 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 5.0023 (pause 0.28) 5.2836 7 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 5.2836 interview. 5.8564 8 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 5.8564 (pause 1.64) 7.4916 9 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 7.4916 Um, 8.0870 10 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 8.0870 (pause 0.31) 8.4011 11 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 8.4011 /tow/ long have you lived in DC? 9.6144 12 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 10.5885 Um, 11.2496 13 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 11.2496 (pause 0.79) 12.0441 14 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 12.0441 well I've 12.5184 15 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 12.5184 (pause 0.29) 12.8099 16 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 12.8099 lived in D- I was in DC f- 15.0979 17 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 15.0979 (pause 2.42) 17.5194 18 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 17.5194 all my life for the most part. And then, um, 19.1105 19 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 19.1105 (pause 0.21) 19.3189 20 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 19.3189 til I 19.6764 21 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 19.6764 (pause 0.52) 20.1955 22 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 20.1955 graduated. 20.7561 23 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 21.4725 Did you [gra- what?] 22.0494 24 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 21.6449 [/And then/-] 21.8482 25 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 22.3111 What part of DC? 23.0030 26 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 23.2001 Northwest. 23.7400 27 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 23.7400 (pause 0.28) 24.0172 28 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 24.0172 Adams Morgan. 24.7255 29 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 25.1408 Adams Morgan? 25.8210 30 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 25.8578 Mm-hm. 26.2330 31 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 26.4349 Tell me about Adams Morgan. 27.5099 32 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 28.3073 Um, 28.6895 33 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 28.6895 (pause 0.40) 29.0858 34 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 29.0858 well, 29.3998 35 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 29.3998 (pause 0.84) 30.2414 36 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 30.2414 w- what it used it to be as opposed to what it is now, 32.8977 37 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 32.8977 (pause 0.44) 33.3395 38 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 33.3395 uh, 33.8480 39 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 33.8480 (pause 0.95) 34.8017 40 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 34.8017 it was- 35.8767 41 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 35.8767 (pause 1.37) 37.2442 42 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 37.2442 it's the- the- the demographics of it have changed drastically 40.4756 43 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 40.4756 (pause 0.33) 40.8052 44 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 40.8052 since 41.2786 45 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 41.2786 (pause 0.17) 41.4524 46 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 41.4524 I grew up there 42.3571 47 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 42.3571 (pause 0.92) 43.2758 48 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 43.2758 from like 43.6755 49 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 43.6755 (pause 0.51) 44.1839 50 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 44.1839 nineteen sixty 45.6060 51 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 45.6060 (pause 1.19) 46.7947 52 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 46.7947 up through 47.7366 53 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 47.7366 (pause 0.17) 47.9083 54 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 47.9083 nineteen- 48.9502 55 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 48.9502 (pause 1.06) 50.0071 56 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 50.0071 I left there about nineteen seventy seven. 52.7674 57 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 52.7674 (pause 1.14) 53.9047 58 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 53.9047 So um, 54.9006 59 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 54.9006 (pause 1.09) 55.9911 60 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 55.9911 the demographics have changed drastically. I mean it was primarily an African American neighborhood. 61.2933 61 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 61.2933 (pause 0.21) 61.5002 62 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 61.5002 S- some diversity 62.7785 63 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 62.7785 (pause 0.90) 63.6762 64 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 63.6762 uh, 64.0654 65 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 64.0654 (pause 1.04) 65.1103 66 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 65.1103 but 65.3577 67 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 65.3577 (pause 0.13) 65.4840 68 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 65.4840 now 65.9679 69 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 65.9679 (pause 1.22) 67.1846 70 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 67.1846 it's totally 68.3250 71 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 68.3250 (pause 2.56) 70.8824 72 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 70.8824 Caucasian. 71.5225 73 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 71.5225 (pause 0.16) 71.6838 74 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 71.6838 [] 72.6131 75 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 72.0836 [Hm.] 72.2308 76 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 72.8024 Period. 73.1460 77 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 73.2933 /Is it/ what- is it gentrification [or?] 75.2707 78 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 75.0415 [Uh yeah.] 75.4973 79 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 75.8164 I mean it's 76.5247 80 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 76.5247 (pause 0.69) 77.2175 81 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 77.2175 the apartments that we rented are now condos. 79.6825 82 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 79.6825 (pause 1.38) 81.0625 83 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 81.0625 So they're- and they're [going-] 82.7213 84 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 82.4511 [Same] size? 83.3250 85 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 83.4945 Yeah. 83.7084 86 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 83.7084 (pause 0.23) 83.9398 87 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 83.9398 No- no different. 84.9076 88 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 84.9076 (pause 0.17) 85.0794 89 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 85.0794 They're selling for like three hundred thousand dollars. 88.0303 90 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 88.7982 Wow. 89.5050 91 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 89.4840 And the 90.4728 92 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 90.5499 condo fees are like four hundred dollars a month. 93.0590 93 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 93.0590 (pause 1.24) 94.3038 94 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 94.3038 So it seems as though the market where it is now has been 97.3529 95 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 97.3529 (pause 0.76) 98.1088 96 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 98.1088 priced to price us out 99.5815 97 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 99.5815 (pause 0.72) 100.2968 98 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 100.2968 kind of. 100.6580 99 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 100.6580 (pause 0.42) 101.0788 100 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 101.0788 That's the feeling that I get anyway. 102.6612 101 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 102.9251 Got you, got you. How- how was that like, how does that make you feel like, 106.0654 102 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 106.0654 (pause 0.48) 106.5458 103 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 106.5458 when you go back there you expect to see certain things that's been there forever [like when you] grew up and all that now is gone and now, 112.5949 104 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 109.8563 [Mm-hm.] 110.2455 105 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 112.7562 Yeah, [it's- it's-] it's a- 114.4728 106 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 113.2245 [you know.] 113.6383 107 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 114.6306 it's a culture shock 115.7737 108 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 115.7737 (pause 0.35) 116.1193 109 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 116.1193 because I mean even in the city as a whole, you know, when you come in 119.7329 110 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 119.7329 (pause 0.79) 120.5219 111 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 120.5219 uh, down on U Street, 122.0577 112 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 122.0577 (pause 0.55) 122.6102 113 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 122.6102 you know, I mean the- 124.1846 114 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 124.1846 (pause 0.16) 124.3459 115 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 124.3459 the- just the whole 125.5120 116 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 125.5120 (pause 0.10) 125.6137 117 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 125.6137 profile 126.4097 118 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 126.4097 (pause 0.63) 127.0373 119 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 127.0373 of how DC used to be 128.9118 120 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 128.9118 (pause 0.26) 129.1747 121 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 129.1747 is 129.8199 122 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 129.8199 (pause 0.14) 129.9602 123 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 129.9602 going through a drastic change. You see 132.0205 124 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 132.0205 (pause 1.65) 133.6685 125 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 133.6685 v- very few 135.0415 126 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 135.0415 (pause 1.19) 136.2302 127 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 136.2302 African American people walking 138.4132 128 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 138.4132 (pause 0.19) 138.5990 129 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 138.5990 down U Street, you know you see mostly 141.1432 130 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 141.1432 (pause 0.53) 141.6727 131 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 141.6727 a lot of white people, you know with 143.6628 132 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 143.6628 (pause 0.78) 144.4412 133 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 144.4412 bicycles, walking their dog, 146.2525 134 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 146.2525 (pause 1.01) 147.2624 135 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 147.2624 lot of outside cafes. 149.5401 136 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 149.5401 (pause 0.45) 149.9854 137 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 149.9854 Rooftop things are big. I look at a lot of 152.6312 138 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 152.6312 (pause 0.15) 152.7785 139 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 152.7785 buildings around. They have a lot of l- rooftop things where they're up and 155.8521 140 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 155.8521 (pause 0.74) 156.5920 141 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 156.5920 even in the- 157.4090 142 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 157.4090 (pause 0.27) 157.6755 143 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 157.6755 my apartment building where I used to be they have a rooftop area where they can sit and- 161.5243 144 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 162.1257 Oh wow. 163.0198 145 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 163.2302 Cause you know, we didn't never have to tan so we didn't [never even sit out in the sun /you know/.] 167.5751 146 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 165.4588 [ Right, wasn't] just sitting on a [roof and] all that. 169.1530 147 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 168.3325 [Yeah.] 168.6516 148 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 168.6516 (pause 0.49) 169.1390 149 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 169.1390 But it's um, 170.1068 150 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 171.5850 it- it's- 172.1355 151 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 172.1355 (pause 0.40) 172.5388 152 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 172.5388 it's gotten to where the price point 174.9356 153 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 174.9356 (pause 0.51) 175.4441 154 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 175.4441 has been 176.2015 155 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 176.2015 (pause 0.85) 177.0520 156 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 177.0520 raised so much til 179.0893 157 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 179.0893 (pause 0.29) 179.3823 158 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 179.3823 w- w- 179.7049 159 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 179.7049 (pause 0.24) 179.9433 160 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 179.9433 they are- 180.6131 161 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 180.6131 (pause 0.73) 181.3424 162 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 181.3424 we can't stay there. And if w- and once we leave, 183.4482 163 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 183.4482 (pause 0.26) 183.7042 164 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 183.7042 we can't 184.0233 165 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 184.0233 (pause 0.16) 184.1846 166 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 184.1846 you know, we're done. 184.8458 167 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 184.8458 (pause 0.36) 185.2070 168 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 185.2070 Nobody else can come in, 186.3641 169 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 186.3641 (pause 0.22) 186.5850 170 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 186.5850 so. 187.0268 171 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 187.1215 /You're/ right. 187.6755 172 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 187.8508 Uh, all of my friends that used to live down on T Street 191.1454 173 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 191.1454 (pause 0.53) 191.6733 174 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 191.6733 and S and you know because we used to walk down Nineteenth Street 195.2203 175 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 195.2203 (pause 0.11) 195.3290 176 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 195.3290 to get to Dupont Circle to go catch the bus 197.4559 177 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 197.4559 (pause 0.38) 197.8311 178 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 197.8311 to go to school. 198.3466 179 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 198.3466 (pause 0.99) 199.3354 180 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 199.3354 And 199.7456 181 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 199.7456 (pause 0.24) 199.9841 182 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 199.9841 that whole street 201.5815 183 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 201.5815 (pause 0.26) 201.8375 184 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 201.8375 I mean 202.4827 185 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 202.4827 (pause 0.25) 202.7281 186 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 202.7281 uh, 203.2140 187 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 203.2140 (pause 0.31) 203.5225 188 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 203.5225 I went and stayed at the Hilton 205.1601 189 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 205.1601 (pause 1.52) 206.6803 190 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 206.6803 like in June. 207.4588 191 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 207.4588 (pause 1.24) 208.7036 192 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 208.7036 Uh, 209.0632 193 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 209.0632 (pause 0.31) 209.3683 194 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 209.3683 my wife and I. 210.0099 195 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 210.0099 (pause 0.12) 210.1292 196 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 210.1292 I just wanted to take her to my old neighborhood [and] show what it was like and 214.3538 197 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 212.1964 [Mm.] 212.4875 198 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 215.6523 it- it was just amazing. 217.0514 199 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 217.0514 (pause 0.45) 217.4967 200 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 217.4967 [ /To walk that life/.] 219.2273 201 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 218.0632 [/Alright/ you walking they looking] at you like you a stranger, [you looking at them] like /you is- they are a [strangers/. Like I was here] from the [beginning.] 223.7199 202 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 220.4090 [Exactly.] 221.1313 203 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 221.1313 (pause 1.18) 222.3080 204 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 222.3080 [Exactly.] 223.0058 205 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 223.0058 (pause 0.60) 223.6054 206 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 223.6054 [Mm-hm.] 224.0472 207 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 224.2876 Exactly. When I talked to a guy- I talked to a 226.8719 208 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 226.8719 (pause 0.11) 226.9841 209 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 226.9841 brother from uh, 227.9784 210 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 227.9784 (pause 0.71) 228.6867 211 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 228.6867 the Dominican 229.3108 212 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 229.3108 (pause 0.69) 230.0051 213 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 230.0051 who worked at the uh, bar 231.5429 214 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 231.5429 (pause 1.04) 232.5843 215 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 232.5843 and uh, 233.3506 216 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 233.3506 (pause 0.84) 234.1888 217 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 234.1888 he 234.6516 218 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 234.6516 (pause 0.88) 235.5352 219 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 235.5352 had s- you know, he was looking and he said uh, 237.7323 220 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 237.7323 (pause 2.06) 239.7890 221 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 239.7890 he said so you know a lot about this area. And I said yeah, I'm- 242.2455 222 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 242.2455 (pause 0.20) 242.4454 223 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 242.4454 I grew up here. I said I- 243.4868 224 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 243.4868 (pause 0.09) 243.5815 225 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 243.5815 I remember when they were building this hotel. 245.2576 226 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 245.2576 (pause 0.98) 246.2414 227 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 246.2414 And he's like, 246.8866 228 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 246.8866 (pause 0.69) 247.5773 229 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 247.5773 that means that you like were here in the sixties. This was like, 250.2863 230 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 250.2863 (pause 0.18) 250.4651 231 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 250.4651 built in sixty two. I said yeah. 251.9784 232 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 251.9784 (pause 0.78) 252.7603 233 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 252.7603 And he's like wow. He said so you've been here- 254.9328 234 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 254.9328 (pause 0.10) 255.0310 235 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 255.0310 you've been around. You've seen the change. I said yeah I've seen the change. 257.7820 236 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 258.4447 What was it- like how was it back then? Was it- 260.6102 237 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 260.6102 (pause 0.18) 260.7855 238 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 260.7855 how was it back then? /?? amongst/ the people. 262.9981 239 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 262.9981 (pause 0.90) 263.9012 240 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 263.9012 Like as [far as] 264.4482 241 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 263.9854 [It was-] 264.3325 242 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 264.6236 [it was good.] 265.2162 243 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 264.6236 [the interaction.] 265.4441 244 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 265.5072 It was good. 266.0332 245 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 266.0332 (pause 0.23) 266.2596 246 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 266.2596 You know, but because we had- 267.6762 247 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 267.6762 (pause 0.18) 267.8585 248 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 267.8585 it wa- 268.0969 249 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 268.0969 (pause 0.08) 268.1776 250 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 268.1776 our neighborhood was unique from the standpoint that 270.6271 251 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 270.6271 (pause 0.72) 271.3459 252 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 271.3459 you know where Adams Morgan is, that was mostly just Hispanic. 274.5388 253 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 275.4068 Mm. 275.6768 254 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 276.0836 You know? 276.4097 255 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 276.4097 (pause 0.15) 276.5640 256 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 276.5640 There wasn't- 277.2828 257 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 277.2828 (pause 0.72) 278.0036 258 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 278.0036 and there- and there were 279.1537 259 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 279.1537 (pause 0.12) 279.2764 260 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 279.2764 houses along 280.2863 261 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 280.2863 (pause 0.56) 280.8438 262 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 280.8438 Eighteenth Street, 281.6172 263 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 281.6172 (pause 0.68) 282.3010 264 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 282.3010 but up 282.8340 265 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 282.8340 (pause 0.13) 282.9602 266 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 282.9602 in, 283.4756 267 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 283.4756 (pause 0.45) 283.9245 268 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 283.9245 uh, 284.4962 269 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 284.4962 (pause 1.01) 285.5079 270 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 285.5079 past that 286.1951 271 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 286.1951 (pause 0.33) 286.5212 272 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 286.5212 north of- 287.3021 273 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 287.3021 (pause 0.10) 287.3998 274 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 287.3998 of Adams Morgan, 288.5464 275 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 288.5464 (pause 0.56) 289.1110 276 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 289.1110 there were a lot of, 289.7702 277 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 289.7702 (pause 0.15) 289.9245 278 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 289.9245 uh, 290.3250 279 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 290.3250 (pause 0.19) 290.5155 280 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 290.5155 our- our neighborhood was unique in that we had a lot of embassies 292.9420 281 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 292.9420 (pause 0.81) 293.7505 282 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 293.7505 around. 294.1572 283 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 294.1572 (pause 0.21) 294.3676 284 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 294.3676 So we had 295.0899 285 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 295.0899 (pause 0.25) 295.3354 286 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 295.3354 kids from different countries 296.7434 287 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 296.7434 (pause 0.45) 297.1958 288 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 297.1958 who were going to our elementary school. 298.7581 289 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 298.7581 (pause 0.86) 299.6207 290 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 299.6207 You know. 299.9188 291 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 299.9188 (pause 0.11) 300.0275 292 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 300.0275 So it was- 300.8795 293 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 300.8795 (pause 0.38) 301.2547 294 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 301.2547 it was a melting pot in /es-/ in essence. 303.1782 295 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 303.1782 (pause 0.20) 303.3816 296 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 303.3816 You know you had a whole bunch of different, 304.9825 297 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 304.9825 (pause 1.09) 306.0766 298 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 306.0766 you know, people from different places and 308.2525 299 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 308.2525 (pause 0.07) 308.3262 300 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 308.3262 one of my best friends matter of fact was from Burma. 310.2162 301 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 310.2162 (pause 0.86) 311.0737 302 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 311.0737 You know, 311.4173 303 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 311.4173 (pause 0.12) 311.5366 304 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 311.5366 so we 312.2098 305 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 312.2098 (pause 0.42) 312.6341 306 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 312.6341 go up to 313.6054 307 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 313.6054 (pause 0.49) 314.0963 308 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 314.0963 embassy 314.7575 309 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 314.7575 (pause 0.49) 315.2484 310 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 315.2484 row area and [you know], his mom would invite me over for lunch you know. 318.7253 311 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 316.1951 [Hm.] 316.5071 312 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 319.1636 Then we had another person that was- And I learned a lot, you know- 321.5955 313 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 321.5955 (pause 0.54) 322.1320 314 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 322.1320 we had another person that was from Mauritius. I had never heard of Mauritius. I didn't know where Mauritius was. 326.4103 315 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 326.4103 (pause 0.75) 327.1572 316 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 327.1572 So y- it was an education from that and like I said it was 330.1782 317 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 330.1782 (pause 0.12) 330.2975 318 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 330.2975 we had people who were 331.5247 319 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 331.5247 (pause 0.18) 331.7071 320 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 331.7071 from Italy. 332.5015 321 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 332.5015 (pause 0.31) 332.8136 322 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 332.8136 Their father was ambassador to Italy or whatever, and uh- 335.7890 323 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 336.0731 Oh wow. 336.5675 324 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 336.7147 So it was a 337.1706 325 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 337.1706 (pause 0.14) 337.3073 326 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 337.3073 different- 338.1789 327 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 338.1789 (pause 0.32) 338.4945 328 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 338.4945 it wasn't like i- 339.2484 329 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 339.2484 (pause 0.39) 339.6341 330 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 339.6341 inner city quo- 340.3459 331 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 340.3459 (pause 0.09) 340.4336 332 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 340.4336 uh, quote unquote where you just had black people. 341.9468 333 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 341.9468 (pause 0.67) 342.6201 334 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 342.6201 [Or you] had 343.6755 335 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 342.6201 [Right.] 343.0549 336 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 343.9665 half white people half black people. 345.5359 337 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 345.5359 (pause 0.17) 345.7042 338 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 345.7042 You know, it was 346.6615 339 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 346.6615 (pause 0.13) 346.7912 340 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 346.7912 a different mix of people. 348.2193 341 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 349.1811 Oh wow. 349.9455 342 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 349.9315 Yeah. 350.1804 343 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 350.8697 Alright I never knew- I never knew that. I mean I never knew that Adams Morgan was a 353.7399 344 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 353.7399 (pause 0.28) 354.0240 345 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 354.0240 lot of Spanish originally, it was all Spanish. 356.0507 346 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 356.1559 Mm-hm. 356.3963 347 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 357.1221 [I] didn't know that. 358.0479 348 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 357.2203 [Yup.] 357.3571 349 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 358.2267 Yup. 358.5388 350 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 358.5388 (pause 0.26) 358.7982 351 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 358.7982 But the- 359.3683 352 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 359.3683 (pause 0.76) 360.1292 353 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 360.1292 so you've got the- 360.7989 354 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 360.7989 (pause 0.13) 360.9321 355 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 360.9321 you've got two arguments. On the one side, you're saying okay well 363.7743 356 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 363.7743 (pause 0.18) 363.9567 357 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 363.9567 the area has been developed 366.0380 358 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 366.0380 (pause 0.62) 366.6621 359 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 366.6621 and it's a lot 367.5984 360 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 367.5984 (pause 0.86) 368.4559 361 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 368.4559 better 369.2589 362 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 369.2589 (pause 0.14) 369.4027 363 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 369.4027 from the standpoint of 371.0121 364 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 371.0121 (pause 0.21) 371.2175 365 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 371.2175 property values, 372.3606 366 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 372.3606 (pause 0.38) 372.7358 367 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 372.7358 the way people have 373.6825 368 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 373.6825 (pause 1.45) 375.1292 369 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 375.1292 fixed up the row houses and things in the area because they had the f- 378.4132 370 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 378.4132 (pause 0.51) 378.9216 371 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 378.9216 the ability financially to do that. 380.5120 372 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 380.5120 (pause 0.15) 380.6628 373 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 380.6628 Whereas 381.1467 374 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 381.1467 (pause 0.93) 382.0759 375 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 382.0759 when we were there 383.5085 376 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 383.5085 (pause 0.15) 383.6628 377 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 383.6628 we were a lot of times we were renting 385.2267 378 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 385.2267 (pause 0.13) 385.3564 379 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 385.3564 the places we were in, 386.5015 380 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 386.5015 (pause 0.72) 387.2168 381 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 387.2168 and the people we were renting from didn't invest the money 390.4447 382 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 390.4447 (pause 0.65) 391.0899 383 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 391.0899 to fix the places up. 392.0823 384 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 392.0823 (pause 0.75) 392.8276 385 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 392.8276 Or the ones- 393.6516 386 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 393.8305 Keep everything [updated.] 394.8929 387 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 394.7491 [Yeah.] 394.9701 388 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 395.4910 So 395.9538 389 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 395.9538 (pause 0.08) 396.0380 390 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 396.0380 you know, it was- it was different for me. 397.3296 391 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 397.3296 (pause 0.43) 397.7562 392 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 397.7562 The liquor store though on Eighteenth and California is still there. 400.5633 393 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 400.5633 (pause 0.65) 401.2140 394 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 401.2140 [ That's] the only thing. 403.9315 395 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 401.4524 [That's the only thing that's still there?] 403.1285 396 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 404.0191 Same owner? 404.9153 397 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 405.2308 N- I don't know if it's same owner. 406.3740 398 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 406.3740 (pause 0.16) 406.5388 399 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 406.5388 But it was st- it's still there. 407.4559 400 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 407.4559 (pause 0.12) 407.5786 401 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 407.5786 408.0064 402 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 407.9889 408.3501 403 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 408.3886 [ Mm-hm.] 410.5471 404 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 408.4553 [Wow. They gonna keep a liquor store. Alright], ain't gonna let that go. [] 412.2337 405 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 411.3431 [Mm-mm.] 411.8024 406 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 412.3003 So you figure fifty- 413.6032 407 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 413.6032 (pause 0.29) 413.8977 408 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 413.8977 And I know it had probably been there 415.2968 409 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 415.2968 (pause 0.48) 415.7772 410 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 415.7772 prior to us being there so it's been there for fifty years. 418.4616 411 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 419.4244 Wow. 420.0520 412 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 420.6937 421.0829 413 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 421.9124 Let me ask you something about 422.9608 414 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 422.9608 (pause 0.21) 423.1712 415 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 423.1712 like back then. Give me some words back then y'all used to say when y'all were younger. 426.5219 416 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 426.5219 (pause 0.31) 426.8340 417 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 426.8340 Some cool, some slang words. 428.5892 418 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 428.5892 (pause 0.07) 428.6593 419 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 428.6593 /All of that-/ 429.3676 420 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 434.2525 A lot of it is just like 435.6692 421 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 435.6692 (pause 0.97) 436.6369 422 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 436.6369 like 436.8438 423 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 436.8438 (pause 0.38) 437.2245 424 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 437.2245 groovy 438.1467 425 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 438.8655 Ah, [okay.] 439.7597 426 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 439.4090 [um,] 440.2891 427 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 443.9153 rapping. 444.3992 428 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 444.3992 (pause 0.66) 445.0584 429 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 445.0584 You know, 445.3038 430 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 445.3038 (pause 0.28) 445.5808 431 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 445.5808 when you would go say you were gonna go rap to somebody about something like that 448.1706 432 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 448.1706 (pause 0.63) 448.7982 433 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 448.7982 when you, uh, 449.9819 434 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 449.9819 (pause 0.98) 450.9637 435 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 450.9637 when you wanted to talk to a girl, 452.1684 436 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 452.1684 (pause 0.37) 452.5366 437 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 452.5366 you know. 452.8697 438 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 452.8697 (pause 0.50) 453.3746 439 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 453.3746 Um, 453.7989 440 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 453.7989 (pause 0.88) 454.6825 441 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 454.6825 454.8473 442 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 454.8473 (pause 0.36) 455.2070 443 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 455.2070 uh, 456.2589 444 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 456.2589 (pause 0.60) 456.8585 445 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 456.8585 when you 457.9672 446 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 457.9672 (pause 6.16) 464.1298 447 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 464.1298 a lot of culture like, 465.3992 448 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 465.3992 (pause 1.09) 466.4897 449 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 466.4897 with 466.9806 450 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 466.9806 (pause 0.45) 467.4349 451 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 467.4349 pimping. 467.8451 452 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 467.8451 (pause 0.56) 468.4097 453 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 468.4097 You know, it's like when 469.2863 454 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 469.2863 (pause 0.20) 469.4862 455 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 469.4862 guys had that walk, you know, and [it was like- it's like okay well you pimping.] 472.5212 456 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 470.8346 [] 472.2512 457 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 472.6545 You [know.] 472.9911 458 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 472.8578 [] 473.2611 459 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 473.5857 473.7154 460 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 473.7154 (pause 0.12) 473.8346 461 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 473.8346 Um- 474.2554 462 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 474.2449 And pimping can be used as a phrase of 476.3250 463 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 476.4384 oh you looking [good or] you- okay [okay.] 479.0963 464 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 477.4202 [Yeah.] 477.7814 465 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 477.7814 (pause 0.90) 478.6860 466 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 478.6860 [Mm-hm.] 479.1138 467 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 479.7084 Um, 480.0976 468 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 480.0976 (pause 2.01) 482.1123 469 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 482.1123 lot of stuff. 482.7575 470 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 482.7575 (pause 0.15) 482.9047 471 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 482.9047 Uh, 483.7726 472 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 483.7726 (pause 1.85) 485.6242 473 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 485.6242 when you wanted to go date a girl you say I wanna get next to her. 487.9736 474 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 488.5225 R- [Right. (laughing)] 490.3214 475 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 489.1502 [You know.] 489.4763 476 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 489.4763 (pause 0.35) 489.8307 477 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 489.8307 [Yeah.] 490.0957 478 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 490.8563 Yeah I wanna get next to [her. We probably] [still saying that] now. [] 494.0752 479 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 491.7715 [Yeah.] 492.3325 480 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 492.3325 (pause 0.20) 492.5359 481 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 492.5359 [Mm-hm.] 493.1040 482 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 493.1040 (pause 0.38) 493.4791 483 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 493.4791 [Mm-hm.] 493.9280 484 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 494.4103 Mm-hm. 494.8283 485 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 494.8283 (pause 0.60) 495.4307 486 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 495.4307 Or she phat. 496.0934 487 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 496.2617 [Right. She- ] 498.1642 488 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 496.3599 [You know /??/ she fat. I always liked /that one/.] 498.2168 489 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 498.9006 So 499.3319 490 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 499.3319 (pause 0.36) 499.6895 491 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 499.6895 stuff like that. 500.3648 492 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 500.3648 (pause 1.04) 501.4027 493 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 501.4027 You know. 501.8059 494 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 501.8059 (pause 1.38) 503.1839 495 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 503.1839 503.3250 496 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 503.3250 (pause 0.19) 503.5120 497 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 503.5120 Um, 503.9608 498 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 503.9608 (pause 1.46) 505.4230 499 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 505.4230 yeah. 505.6580 500 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 505.6580 (pause 1.39) 507.0520 501 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 507.0520 Stuff like that. 507.8024 502 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 507.8024 (pause 1.79) 509.5962 503 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 509.5962 But it was, uh, 510.5885 504 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 510.5885 (pause 1.16) 511.7456 505 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 511.7456 I was looking at some of the, 513.3851 506 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 513.3851 (pause 2.01) 515.3963 507 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 515.3963 you know, like our yearbooks and stuff from back in the era 517.7807 508 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 517.7807 (pause 0.42) 518.1964 509 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 518.1964 and, uh, 518.9714 510 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 518.9714 (pause 1.55) 520.5247 511 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 520.5247 a lot of the, 521.5085 512 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 521.5085 (pause 0.90) 522.4132 513 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 522.4132 uh, 522.7954 514 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 522.7954 (pause 1.43) 524.2245 515 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 524.2245 things that were out then like movies 525.9146 516 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 525.9146 (pause 0.45) 526.3634 517 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 526.3634 that were out then like 527.5716 518 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 527.5716 (pause 0.37) 527.9387 519 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 527.9387 Shaft and Superfly and 530.0796 520 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 530.0796 (pause 1.15) 531.2291 521 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 531.2291 and the musical groups that were out 533.5315 522 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 533.5315 (pause 0.36) 533.8895 523 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 533.8895 that were music 534.9565 524 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 535.1179 Mm-hm. 535.7848 525 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 537.1660 and 537.8960 526 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 537.8960 (pause 0.97) 538.8647 527 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 538.8647 it was mostly a lot of times there was like this transition from your parents 542.8447 528 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 542.8447 (pause 0.58) 543.4257 529 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 543.4257 who were like early sixties with the Temptations and all of that other stuff and then as 548.3885 530 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 548.3885 (pause 0.73) 549.1185 531 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 549.1185 we got 549.6714 532 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 549.6714 (pause 0.72) 550.3874 533 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 550.3874 older, 550.9630 534 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 550.9630 (pause 0.55) 551.5175 535 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 551.5175 it started changing into Earth Wind and Fire but there was still some reach back because the Temptations still had songs that 558.2207 536 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 558.2207 (pause 0.15) 558.3668 537 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 558.3668 they were putting out during our time. 560.0515 538 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 560.8922 So it's still some influence [there.] 562.5207 539 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 562.1768 [Yeah.] 562.5348 540 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 562.9279 Mm-hm. 563.2859 541 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 563.2859 (pause 0.14) 563.4262 542 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 563.4262 So it flowed and then the O'Jays and then we kind of 566.2410 543 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 566.2410 (pause 0.46) 566.6973 544 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 566.6973 went past them and went to like Earth Wind and Fire, 569.0164 545 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 569.0164 (pause 0.48) 569.4964 546 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 569.4964 New Birth, 570.2686 547 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 570.2686 (pause 1.12) 571.3847 548 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 571.3847 uh, Parliament, 572.4289 549 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 572.4289 (pause 0.58) 573.0115 550 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 573.0115 you know, all of these 573.7416 551 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 573.7416 (pause 0.46) 574.2049 552 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 574.2049 bands. 574.8085 553 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 574.8085 (pause 0.50) 575.3069 554 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 575.3069 You know. 575.6860 555 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 575.6860 (pause 0.29) 575.9808 556 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 575.9808 And so it started changing from that point 578.1568 557 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 578.1568 (pause 0.57) 578.7254 558 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 578.7254 where they kind of- their music kind of got 581.3752 559 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 581.3752 (pause 0.46) 581.8334 560 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 581.8334 left, 582.3247 561 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 582.3247 (pause 0.46) 582.7810 562 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 582.7810 you know, and our music started 584.3868 563 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 584.3868 (pause 0.15) 584.5342 564 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 584.5342 finding its niche, 585.5871 565 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 585.5871 (pause 0.80) 586.3874 566 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 586.3874 you know, 586.6962 567 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 586.6962 (pause 0.37) 587.0612 568 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 587.0612 so. 587.5105 569 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 587.5105 (pause 0.63) 588.1422 570 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 588.1422 And then we s- 589.2162 571 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 589.2162 (pause 0.42) 589.6374 572 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 589.6374 our music went until disco came. We were with [disco for awhile.] 593.4052 573 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 592.5137 [] 593.4262 574 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 593.8404 And then after the rap scene started, that's [when we kind of-] 596.7017 575 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 595.8409 [Hold on. Disco], what era was that? What- what [time period was that?] 598.6521 576 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 597.9662 [Disco] was like late seventies. 600.7108 577 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 601.9322 It was like- 602.5202 578 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 602.5202 (pause 0.33) 602.8501 579 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 602.8501 /well/ I guess you could say- yeah, it was mid to late seventies. 605.6158 580 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 605.6158 (pause 2.39) 608.0094 581 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 608.0094 Cause, uh, 608.7605 582 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 608.7605 (pause 1.42) 610.1768 583 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 610.1768 that was right around the time that Donna Summer got real 612.7950 584 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 612.7950 (pause 0.23) 613.0267 585 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 613.0267 big and, um, 614.9624 586 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 614.9624 (pause 0.66) 615.6222 587 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 615.6222 Studio Fifty Four was a big deal in New York. 618.0018 588 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 618.0018 (pause 0.48) 618.4862 589 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 618.4862 So you looking at 619.6584 590 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 619.6584 (pause 1.05) 620.7114 591 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 620.7114 like seventy seven to like 623.5315 592 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 623.5315 (pause 0.20) 623.7351 593 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 623.7351 early eighties like eighty two, eighty three 625.8480 594 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 626.5710 Mm. 627.0834 595 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 627.1660 for a disco era. 628.2680 596 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 628.2680 (pause 0.47) 628.7383 597 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 628.7383 And then 629.3982 598 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 629.3982 (pause 1.42) 630.8161 599 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 630.8161 the rap started 631.6935 600 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 631.6935 (pause 1.05) 632.7394 601 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 632.7394 and 633.5380 602 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 633.5380 (pause 1.03) 634.5699 603 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 634.5699 it lost- o- 635.4754 604 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 635.4754 (pause 0.32) 635.7983 605 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 635.7983 our generation stayed for a little bit with the Sugarhill Gang. 639.1325 606 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 639.1325 (pause 0.68) 639.8118 607 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 639.8118 But then when it started going to Tupac and Biggie 643.6865 608 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 643.6865 (pause 1.06) 644.7464 609 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 644.7464 we got off the train. 645.7837 610 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 645.7837 (pause 0.86) 646.6471 611 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 646.6471 [/You know/,] 647.0823 612 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 646.6541 [Right.] 647.1104 613 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 647.4052 [so.] 647.7562 614 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 647.6017 [Got you.] Because is- is it- 649.1109 615 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 649.5461 the reason you got off train is it because of 651.5450 616 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 651.5450 (pause 0.27) 651.8188 617 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 651.8188 what they were talking [about, the messages?] 653.5315 618 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 652.7243 [Mm-hm.] 653.1174 619 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 653.6368 Mm-hm. 653.9948 620 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 653.9948 (pause 1.47) 655.4689 621 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 655.4689 Cause it wasn't- you know, it's- it- up to our generation it was about music and 659.7000 622 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 659.7000 (pause 0.52) 660.2194 623 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 660.2194 meaningful m- you know 661.7497 624 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 661.7497 (pause 1.00) 662.7535 625 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 662.7535 messages in the music 664.0669 626 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 664.0669 (pause 0.42) 664.4856 627 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 664.4856 and there's just turned, you know- it was a different generation so it was darker 668.5288 628 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 668.5288 (pause 0.81) 669.3344 629 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 669.3344 and the language was 670.7664 630 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 670.7664 (pause 0.19) 670.9559 631 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 670.9559 darker, 671.5175 632 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 672.3458 Mm-hm. 673.0787 633 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 673.1179 you know, 673.5602 634 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 673.5602 (pause 0.38) 673.9392 635 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 673.9392 so, um, 675.1870 636 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 675.1870 (pause 1.40) 676.5839 637 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 676.5839 it just you know, it evolved, 678.0440 638 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 678.0440 (pause 0.22) 678.2686 639 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 678.2686 you know. 678.5985 640 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 679.7216 What are some of the um, musical spots cause you seem got a little excited /we's got/ to talk about music. You like, oh okay, [Earth Wind and] [Fire, you know.] 685.8845 641 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 684.7670 [Yeah.] 685.2232 642 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 685.2232 (pause 0.36) 685.5812 643 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 685.5812 [Because I-] that's what we grew up with. We- we- because 688.9910 644 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 689.8965 that was our, 690.9565 645 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 690.9565 (pause 0.75) 691.7076 646 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 691.7076 you know, we didn't have videos and stuff, but we had- 694.1237 647 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 694.1237 (pause 0.77) 694.8958 648 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 694.8958 we had AM radio. 696.0400 649 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 696.0400 (pause 0.71) 696.7543 650 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 696.7543 There were two main 697.8634 651 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 697.8634 (pause 0.35) 698.2144 652 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 698.2144 ch- uh, stations that we listened to. There was WOL 701.5065 653 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 701.5065 (pause 0.46) 701.9628 654 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 701.9628 and WOOK. 703.0297 655 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 703.0297 (pause 0.94) 703.9687 656 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 703.9687 And we listened to those- 705.4287 657 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 705.4287 (pause 0.68) 706.1096 658 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 706.1096 AM stations stayed until about probably 709.3299 659 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 709.3299 (pause 1.21) 710.5373 660 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 710.5373 the late sixties 711.8078 661 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 711.8078 (pause 0.17) 711.9763 662 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 711.9763 and then [FM started.] 713.3029 663 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 712.6431 [Hm.] 712.9730 664 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 714.5173 And then once the FM channel started, 716.5092 665 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 716.5092 (pause 0.88) 717.3866 666 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 717.3866 the content got better. 718.7554 667 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 718.7554 (pause 0.72) 719.4784 668 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 719.4784 And that's when, you know, Earth Wind and Fire and all this stuff started coming out, 722.3688 669 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 722.3688 (pause 0.58) 722.9514 670 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 722.9514 so. 723.4428 671 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 723.4428 (pause 0.84) 724.2781 672 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 724.2781 And we would go to concerts. 725.3100 673 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 725.3100 (pause 0.69) 726.0049 674 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 726.0049 You know, we would go down to the Lincoln Theatre 727.7230 675 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 727.7230 (pause 0.62) 728.3407 676 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 728.3407 down on, uh, 729.3866 677 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 729.3866 (pause 0.65) 730.0324 678 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 730.0324 U Street. 730.6010 679 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 730.6010 (pause 0.26) 730.8607 680 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 730.8607 Um, 731.3731 681 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 731.3731 (pause 2.14) 733.5124 682 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 733.5124 a number of- prior to 735.5762 683 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 735.5762 (pause 0.73) 736.3062 684 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 736.3062 the riots, 737.0222 685 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 737.0222 (pause 0.93) 737.9487 686 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 737.9487 prior- prior to sixty eight 739.2374 687 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 739.2374 (pause 0.84) 740.0810 688 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 740.0810 we had 740.6285 689 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 740.6285 (pause 0.32) 740.9444 690 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 740.9444 um, the Tivoli Theatre that we used to go to 743.3172 691 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 743.3731 Where was [that?] 743.9417 692 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 743.6750 [up on] Fourteenth Street. 744.6570 693 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 744.8175 It's like Fourteenth and, um, 746.5924 694 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 746.5924 (pause 2.25) 748.8467 695 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 748.8467 mm, Fourteenth and Columbia Road. 750.6366 696 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 750.6366 (pause 1.45) 752.0880 697 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 752.0880 I think it's Columbia Road going that way. 753.6885 698 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 753.6885 (pause 1.57) 755.2538 699 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 755.2538 But that was- 755.8434 700 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 755.8434 (pause 0.27) 756.1102 701 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 756.1102 that was up there. We used to go up- up there. 758.1021 702 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 758.1021 (pause 0.35) 758.4530 703 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 758.4530 And like I said we went to the Lincoln. 759.7797 704 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 759.7797 (pause 0.99) 760.7695 705 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 760.7695 Uh, 761.2468 706 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 761.2468 (pause 0.51) 761.7592 707 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 761.7592 the Howard Theatre was closed 764.2354 708 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 764.2354 (pause 0.42) 764.6566 709 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 764.6566 through most of our- 765.7587 710 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 765.7587 (pause 0.46) 766.2149 711 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 766.2149 like for our parents, the Howard Theatre was the place to go 768.7841 712 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 768.7841 (pause 0.63) 769.4142 713 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 769.4142 that- back in the fifties and the forties. 771.1760 714 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 771.1760 (pause 0.47) 771.6464 715 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 771.6464 But then once that closed, 772.9590 716 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 772.9590 (pause 1.44) 774.3980 717 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 774.3980 you know, 774.7700 718 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 774.7700 (pause 0.66) 775.4282 719 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 775.4282 that was- they didn't have anybody to 777.0637 720 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 777.0637 (pause 0.57) 777.6323 721 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 777.6323 give it any money to put- it was just 779.3661 722 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 779.3661 (pause 0.46) 779.8224 723 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 779.8224 I don't know. I think it's only like been about s- ten years since they've gone back and redone it. 783.7306 724 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 784.1869 [Mm-hm.] 784.9801 725 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 784.6080 [And it looks] pretty good. 785.5346 726 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 786.4190 You know. 786.7349 727 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 786.7349 (pause 1.13) 787.8634 728 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 787.8634 But um, 788.5794 729 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 788.5794 (pause 2.01) 790.5940 730 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 790.5940 I do a lot of genealogy 792.5788 731 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 792.5788 (pause 1.06) 793.6388 732 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 793.6388 you know, so I r- 794.6355 733 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 794.6355 (pause 0.51) 795.1480 734 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 795.1480 and my family is 796.5659 735 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 796.5659 (pause 0.34) 796.9099 736 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 796.9099 based in this area. 798.2479 737 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 799.2948 [Oh okay.] 800.0319 738 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 799.3299 [So] 800.2846 739 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 801.0918 a lot of history that has gone on that I got from like my parents and stuff 805.8423 740 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 805.8423 (pause 0.49) 806.3337 741 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 806.3337 you know, on how things used to b- 808.0605 742 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 808.0605 (pause 0.16) 808.2219 743 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 808.2219 be, where they would go. 809.5767 744 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 809.5767 (pause 0.78) 810.3542 745 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 810.3542 They were talking about the, 811.7371 746 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 811.7371 (pause 1.10) 812.8391 747 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 812.8391 uh, 813.3445 748 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 813.3445 (pause 0.69) 814.0324 749 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 814.0324 I can't think what the name of the club is but there was some kind of 816.3559 750 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 816.3559 (pause 0.24) 816.5929 751 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 816.5929 cavern on Fourt- on U Street 818.9865 752 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 818.9865 (pause 0.93) 819.9201 753 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 819.9201 that was like really big back in the forties 822.1024 754 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 822.1024 (pause 0.47) 822.5735 755 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 822.5735 and jazz groups used to come down there and play. Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington and all them. 826.9851 756 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 827.1204 Mm. 827.7803 757 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 827.7943 You know. 828.1804 758 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 828.1804 (pause 0.46) 828.6420 759 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 828.6420 Which were peers of 829.7792 760 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 829.7792 (pause 0.58) 830.3618 761 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 830.3618 my parents 831.1269 762 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 831.1269 (pause 0.22) 831.3515 763 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 831.3515 and 831.9763 764 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 831.9763 (pause 0.95) 832.9309 765 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 832.9309 grandparents because they went to school with them. 834.7068 766 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 834.7068 (pause 0.85) 835.5546 767 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 835.5546 So, you know, when they would talk about Duke Ellington, you know my grandma was like oh yeah well he- he went to school with me. 840.0488 768 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 841.2948 Wow. [] 842.8321 769 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 842.3407 [So.] 842.8672 770 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 843.5902 Or um, 845.0853 771 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 845.0853 (pause 3.36) 848.4460 772 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 848.4460 a lot of the, um, 849.8289 773 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 849.8289 (pause 0.18) 850.0043 774 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 850.0043 military people like uh, Benjamin O. Davis, 853.0491 775 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 853.0491 (pause 0.87) 853.9196 776 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 853.9196 he went to school with my grandmother. 855.4201 777 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 855.4201 (pause 0.82) 856.2430 778 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 856.2430 You know, he ended up being the first 857.5556 779 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 857.5556 (pause 0.88) 858.4331 780 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 858.4331 one star black general in the Army. 860.3127 781 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 860.3127 (pause 1.25) 861.5621 782 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 861.5621 861.6800 783 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 861.6800 (pause 0.11) 861.7875 784 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 861.7875 So. 862.2921 785 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 862.2921 (pause 1.42) 863.7101 786 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 863.7101 A number of people that i- you know you didn't- 865.4773 787 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 865.4773 (pause 0.55) 866.0249 788 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 866.0249 uh, Marvin Gaye, 867.0006 789 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 867.0006 (pause 0.69) 867.6885 790 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 867.6885 you know, 868.0250 791 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 868.0250 (pause 0.43) 868.4536 792 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 868.4536 he went to school with my mom. 869.5556 793 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 870.0610 Wow. 870.5454 794 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 870.6631 You know. 871.0070 795 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 871.0070 (pause 0.22) 871.2317 796 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 871.2317 So, a lot of these p- 872.6005 797 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 872.6005 (pause 0.22) 872.8251 798 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 872.8251 a lot of history that DC had 874.4606 799 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 874.4606 (pause 1.14) 875.6048 800 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 875.6048 you know, I got to learn about 877.4352 801 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 877.4352 (pause 0.82) 878.2565 802 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 878.2565 you know. 878.6145 803 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 878.6145 (pause 1.07) 879.6885 804 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 879.6885 But, um, 880.4606 805 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 880.4606 (pause 1.01) 881.4714 806 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 881.4714 it's a rich- 882.5367 807 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 882.5367 (pause 0.83) 883.3650 808 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 883.3650 that part of it is 884.8461 809 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 884.8461 (pause 0.84) 885.6885 810 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 885.6885 full of history. 886.8116 811 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 886.8116 (pause 0.22) 887.0362 812 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 887.0362 It's rich with history for us. 888.5665 813 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 888.5665 (pause 0.85) 889.4142 814 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 889.4142 The thing is now though, 890.6847 815 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 890.6847 (pause 0.69) 891.3726 816 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 891.3726 with this 892.0324 817 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 892.0324 (pause 0.66) 892.6923 818 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 892.6923 changing, 893.3591 819 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 893.3591 (pause 0.98) 894.3348 820 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 894.3348 you know, of cultures, 895.7033 821 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 895.7033 (pause 0.98) 896.6847 822 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 896.6847 the question is what happens 898.4255 823 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 898.4255 (pause 0.98) 899.4012 824 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 899.4012 to our culture? Does it like just stop? 901.4914 825 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 901.4914 (pause 0.72) 902.2144 826 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 902.2144 You know. 902.5934 827 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 902.6706 Right right. 903.8218 828 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 905.0573 Ben's Chili Bowl. 905.8154 829 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 905.8154 (pause 0.37) 906.1804 830 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 906.1804 Ben's Chili Bowl had been there for years. 907.8283 831 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 907.8283 (pause 0.39) 908.2214 832 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 908.2214 You know, that was a hang out 909.3693 833 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 909.3693 (pause 0.47) 909.8429 834 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 909.8429 for a lot of 910.5448 835 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 910.5448 (pause 0.25) 910.7975 836 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 910.7975 s- 910.9099 837 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 910.9099 (pause 0.53) 911.4363 838 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 911.4363 stars who would go to concerts and stuff down there that you would see. 914.4881 839 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 914.4881 (pause 0.79) 915.2813 840 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 915.2813 Um, 915.7867 841 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 915.7867 (pause 1.73) 917.5135 842 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 917.5135 so what happens? You know, like I said, what happens to that 919.6388 843 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 919.6388 (pause 0.58) 920.2144 844 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 920.2144 long term? 920.8181 845 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 920.8181 (pause 0.96) 921.7797 846 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 921.7797 The- 922.3343 847 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 922.3343 (pause 0.93) 923.2608 848 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 923.2608 the thing that's troubling 924.5173 849 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 924.5173 (pause 1.02) 925.5405 850 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 925.5405 about 926.2144 851 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 926.2144 (pause 0.32) 926.5373 852 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 926.5373 the youth, 927.1480 853 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 927.1480 (pause 0.51) 927.6604 854 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 927.6604 the way they are now, 928.6221 855 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 928.6221 (pause 0.60) 929.2257 856 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 929.2257 is they are not aware 931.1755 857 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 931.1755 (pause 1.19) 932.3618 858 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 932.3618 of- 933.0076 859 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 933.0076 (pause 0.93) 933.9342 860 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 933.9342 they're not aware of their culture number one. 936.3488 861 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 936.3488 (pause 0.52) 936.8666 862 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 936.8666 And it's like, when you see them walking around with their 939.7516 863 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 939.7516 (pause 0.55) 940.2992 864 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 940.2992 pants hanging down their butt 941.7101 865 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 941.7101 (pause 0.68) 942.3910 866 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 942.3910 that they can't- you know, they can't even run 944.1793 867 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 944.1793 (pause 0.93) 945.1129 868 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 945.1129 cause you know the pants gonna fall down you know, and it's like 947.7101 869 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 947.7101 (pause 1.18) 948.8947 870 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 948.8947 they don't know- you know, when I talk to young people I say well do you know 951.6464 871 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 951.6464 (pause 0.43) 952.0745 872 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 952.0745 where this 952.6923 873 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 952.6923 (pause 0.20) 952.8958 874 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 952.8958 came from, this 953.9909 875 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 953.9909 (pause 0.49) 954.4806 876 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 954.4806 pants falling down and they're like 956.0810 877 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 956.0810 (pause 0.58) 956.6636 878 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 956.6636 no. 957.0708 879 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 957.0708 (pause 0.63) 957.7025 880 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 957.7025 I said it came from prison 959.0924 881 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 959.0924 (pause 0.47) 959.5627 882 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 959.5627 because they wouldn't give the prisoners belts cause they didn't want 'em to hang themselves. 963.4498 883 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 963.4498 (pause 0.67) 964.1167 884 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 964.1167 So they couldn't- 964.9450 885 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 964.9450 (pause 0.38) 965.3240 886 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 965.3240 they had to go there and keep their pants. 967.3130 887 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 967.3130 (pause 0.28) 967.5967 888 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 967.5967 Their pants were hanging down because of that. 969.0918 889 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 969.0918 (pause 0.77) 969.8640 890 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 969.8640 I said so that's gonna be your role model is a prisoner. 972.1708 891 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 973.3159 Hm. 973.5967 892 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 973.8494 You know, 974.1933 893 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 974.1933 (pause 0.44) 974.6285 894 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 974.6285 but they don't- 975.2603 895 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 975.2603 (pause 1.47) 976.7274 896 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 976.7274 don't get it, 977.0924 897 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 977.0924 (pause 0.47) 977.5627 898 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 977.5627 you know. 977.9277 899 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 977.9277 (pause 0.34) 978.2716 900 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 978.2716 And it's like I said just 979.3229 901 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 979.3229 (pause 0.41) 979.7300 902 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 979.7300 different group of people. 980.5877 903 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 980.5877 (pause 1.05) 981.6393 904 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 981.6393 So we relate 983.3240 905 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 983.3240 (pause 1.14) 984.4612 906 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 984.4612 lang- it's 985.1895 907 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 985.1895 (pause 0.25) 985.4352 908 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 985.4352 the language is different 986.8040 909 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 986.8040 (pause 0.84) 987.6393 910 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 987.6393 from the standpoint of 989.3731 911 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 989.3731 (pause 1.09) 990.4612 912 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 990.4612 what we 991.4001 913 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 991.4001 (pause 0.37) 991.7722 914 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 991.7722 consider 992.6917 915 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 992.6917 (pause 1.08) 993.7727 916 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 993.7727 important. 994.3623 917 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 994.3623 (pause 0.95) 995.3170 918 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 995.3170 Manners, 996.0470 919 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 996.0470 (pause 0.83) 996.8807 920 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 996.8807 saying thank you for things, 998.2776 921 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 998.2776 (pause 0.50) 998.7759 922 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 998.7759 things that we were raised on. 1000.1377 923 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1000.1377 (pause 0.79) 1000.9239 924 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1000.9239 You look at- 1001.8575 925 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1001.8575 (pause 0.18) 1002.0400 926 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1002.0400 and- and it- and there are a number of causes. There's not any one thing that you can point to. 1006.0043 927 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1006.0043 (pause 0.37) 1006.3764 928 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1006.3764 Lot of it is is- is, uh, 1008.2068 929 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1008.2068 (pause 0.95) 1009.1544 930 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1009.1544 single moms, 1010.2565 931 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1010.2565 (pause 0.32) 1010.5724 932 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1010.5724 young moms raising kids. 1012.2149 933 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1012.2149 (pause 0.64) 1012.8537 934 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1012.8537 They didn't have the proper 1014.3278 935 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1014.3278 (pause 0.77) 1015.0983 936 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1015.0983 training to be able to train the next generation 1017.7165 937 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1017.7165 (pause 0.39) 1018.1096 938 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1018.1096 because they were too young, 1019.1696 939 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1019.1696 (pause 0.22) 1019.3872 940 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1019.3872 you know. 1019.7241 941 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1019.7241 (pause 0.69) 1020.4190 942 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1020.4190 And they don't have grandma 1021.8002 943 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1021.8002 (pause 1.06) 1022.8602 944 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1022.8602 to back up because grandma going to the club too. 1024.7063 945 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1024.7063 (pause 1.19) 1025.8926 946 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1025.8926 So you go you know to mom's looking for grandma to take it and she's like, nah, I'm gone. 1029.2603 947 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1029.2603 (pause 0.65) 1029.9131 948 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1029.9131 You know, so you figure it out the best way you can. 1031.8645 949 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1032.1366 Mm-hm. 1032.8737 950 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1033.2176 But the language 1034.4039 951 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1034.4039 (pause 0.27) 1034.6777 952 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1034.6777 that 1035.2743 953 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1035.2743 (pause 1.28) 1036.5519 954 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1036.5519 is unique to us- 1037.9207 955 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1037.9207 (pause 1.09) 1039.0141 956 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1039.0141 and one of the, uh, one of the kids was saying that you know we have to be bilingual 1043.2819 957 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1043.2819 (pause 1.33) 1044.6139 958 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1044.6139 because when we are, 1045.9406 959 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1045.9406 (pause 0.34) 1046.2776 960 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1046.2776 um, 1046.8953 961 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1046.8953 (pause 1.12) 1048.0184 962 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1048.0184 one of- as a matter of fact one of my friends, his- his, uh, his wife, her- 1051.8143 963 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1051.8143 (pause 0.27) 1052.0880 964 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1052.0880 her uh, 1052.5443 965 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1052.5443 (pause 0.71) 1053.2533 966 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1053.2533 father 1053.8920 967 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1053.8920 (pause 0.51) 1054.4045 968 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1054.4045 had a Ph.D. 1055.4082 969 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1055.4082 (pause 0.91) 1056.3138 970 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1056.3138 in African American Studies 1058.1372 971 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1058.1372 (pause 0.41) 1058.5513 972 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1058.5513 and uh, he wrote a book about 1060.8888 973 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1060.8888 (pause 0.28) 1061.1696 974 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1061.1696 Ebonics. 1061.8154 975 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1061.8154 (pause 3.17) 1064.9865 976 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1064.9865 That 1065.3445 977 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1065.3445 (pause 0.88) 1066.2237 978 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1066.2237 n- 1066.3888 979 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1066.3888 (pause 0.21) 1066.6010 980 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1066.6010 the way we connect with one another 1068.7139 981 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1068.7139 (pause 1.30) 1070.0178 982 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1070.0178 is different than what we do with society in general. 1073.1766 983 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1073.1766 (pause 1.00) 1074.1734 984 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1074.1734 So if- 1074.8051 985 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1074.8051 (pause 0.95) 1075.7581 986 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1075.7581 if you hanging around with your boys and, you know, and I listen to 'em you know even with my kids 1080.7770 987 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1080.7770 (pause 2.00) 1082.7759 988 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1082.7759 and I hear my daughter go, something. (atypical pronunciation) 1084.3764 989 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1084.3764 (pause 0.94) 1085.3170 990 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1085.3170 And I go what? 1085.9558 991 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1085.9558 (pause 0.36) 1086.3121 992 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1086.3121 And she goes, something. (atypical pronunciation) 1087.1123 993 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1087.1123 (pause 2.08) 1089.1971 994 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1089.1971 I said you mean something? 1090.2009 995 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1090.2009 (pause 0.91) 1091.1064 996 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1091.1064 She said, well yeah dad you know what I mean. 1092.4471 997 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1092.4471 (pause 1.26) 1093.7090 998 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1093.7090 But it's- 1094.3407 999 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1094.3407 (pause 0.95) 1095.2884 1000 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1095.2884 it's kind of, uh, 1096.6150 1001 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1096.6150 (pause 2.52) 1099.1334 1002 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1099.1334 you know, 1099.7090 1003 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1100.1652 I got you. 1100.9374 1004 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1101.0918 meeting. (atypical pronunciation) 1101.6674 1005 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1101.6674 (pause 0.62) 1102.2851 1006 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1102.2851 I'm meeting- (atypical pronunciation) 1102.9309 1007 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1102.9309 (pause 0.37) 1103.3029 1008 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1103.3029 I'm meeting (atypical pronunciation) somebody. 1104.4050 1009 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1104.4050 (pause 0.98) 1105.3861 1010 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1105.3861 Meeting? (atypical pronunciation) 1105.8985 1011 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1105.8985 (pause 0.86) 1106.7619 1012 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1106.7619 You mean meeting? 1107.4428 1013 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1107.4428 (pause 0.71) 1108.1518 1014 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1108.1518 Well yeah, meeting. 1109.0783 1015 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1109.0783 (pause 0.41) 1109.4925 1016 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1109.4925 But when you ask 'em, okay, well spell out meeting. (atypical pronunciation) 1111.8514 1017 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1111.8514 (pause 0.41) 1112.2565 1018 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1112.2565 Meeting. (atypical pronunciation) 1112.6706 1019 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1112.6706 (pause 0.62) 1113.2884 1020 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1113.2884 okay it's M-E-E-T-I-N-G. 1114.9379 1021 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1114.9379 (pause 0.34) 1115.2749 1022 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1115.2749 Okay, but that doesn't say meeting (atypical pronunciation) that says meeting. 1117.2607 1023 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1117.2607 (pause 2.10) 1119.3586 1024 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1119.3586 But that 1119.8920 1025 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1119.8920 (pause 0.57) 1120.4606 1026 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1120.4606 is- 1121.1204 1027 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1121.1204 (pause 0.50) 1121.6188 1028 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1121.6188 that's our 1122.5859 1029 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1122.5859 (pause 0.31) 1122.8947 1030 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1122.8947 language 1123.6318 1031 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1123.6318 (pause 0.22) 1123.8564 1032 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1123.8564 [that-] 1124.1512 1033 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1123.8915 [Mm.] 1124.1582 1034 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1124.6285 Your /mova/. (atypical pronunciation) 1125.0427 1035 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1125.0427 (pause 0.93) 1125.9763 1036 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1125.9763 Huh? 1126.2641 1037 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1126.2641 (pause 0.85) 1127.1134 1038 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1127.1134 There's no V in mother. 1128.1734 1039 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1128.1734 (pause 0.32) 1128.4946 1040 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1128.4946 [ Okay (laughing).] 1130.0670 1041 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1128.6069 [] 1129.9266 1042 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1130.3407 Your /fava/. (atypical pronunciation) 1130.9444 1043 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1130.9444 (pause 0.65) 1131.5902 1044 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1131.5902 Okay. 1132.0184 1045 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1132.0184 (pause 0.27) 1132.2851 1046 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1132.2851 There's no V in father. 1133.3731 1047 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1133.3731 (pause 0.20) 1133.5767 1048 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1133.5767 1134.2155 1049 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1134.4682 Right. 1135.0297 1050 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1135.0491 You know? 1135.4844 1051 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1135.7441 Got you. 1136.3056 1052 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1136.6706 So, 1137.2462 1053 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1137.2462 (pause 1.45) 1138.6993 1054 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1138.6993 or, you know, it's a l- lot of what it is now you know- what know what I'm saying? 1142.3688 1055 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1142.3688 (pause 0.69) 1143.0637 1056 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1143.0637 That's a big thing that young people say. You know what I'm saying? No. 1145.6539 1057 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1145.6539 (pause 0.21) 1145.8645 1058 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1145.8645 I don't know what you're saying. 1146.8051 1059 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1146.8175 [] 1147.5195 1060 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1147.3440 [] 1147.8073 1061 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1148.3056 You know, listening to my daughter that 1150.1167 1062 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1150.1167 (pause 0.27) 1150.3904 1063 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1150.3904 that phrase comes up 1151.6960 1064 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1151.6960 (pause 0.54) 1152.2365 1065 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1152.2365 like 1152.5103 1066 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1152.5103 (pause 0.25) 1152.7614 1067 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1152.7614 six, seven times in a course of a conversation with her. 1155.2813 1068 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1155.2813 (pause 0.69) 1155.9763 1069 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1155.9763 And there's a lot of 1157.4784 1070 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1157.4784 (pause 0.50) 1157.9768 1071 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1157.9768 stuff 1158.6226 1072 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1158.6226 (pause 0.34) 1158.9649 1073 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1158.9649 in, you know what I'm saying, 1160.0178 1074 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1160.0178 (pause 0.81) 1160.8321 1075 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1160.8321 that you never 1161.9201 1076 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1161.9201 (pause 0.81) 1162.7274 1077 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1162.7274 get to 1163.1977 1078 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1163.1977 (pause 1.42) 1164.6156 1079 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1164.6156 [cause it-] 1165.1966 1080 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1164.6210 [/?/] 1164.9017 1081 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1165.8283 you keep it moving. 1166.6145 1082 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1166.6145 (pause 0.22) 1166.8321 1083 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1166.8321 You know? 1167.1690 1084 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1167.4638 [Right.] 1168.0254 1085 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1167.4849 [You don't stop.] You've taken this conversation 1169.7452 1086 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1170.1523 and you've put it down to this 1171.8915 1087 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1171.8915 (pause 0.88) 1172.7759 1088 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1172.7759 with six or seven terms of, you know what I'm saying? 1175.4012 1089 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1175.4012 (pause 0.91) 1176.3138 1090 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1176.3138 1176.6701 1091 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1176.6210 Right. 1177.0421 1092 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1177.6388 I [understand.] 1178.4530 1093 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1177.9617 [Mm-hm.] So where's the meaning at the end of 1180.3904 1094 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1181.4574 the discourse? You know the the meaning at the end of what you're 1184.5934 1095 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1184.5934 (pause 0.53) 1185.1199 1096 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1185.1199 relating to one another. 1186.2851 1097 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1186.2851 (pause 0.36) 1186.6431 1098 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1186.6431 You know, 1186.8748 1099 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1187.0994 [Mm.] 1187.4012 1100 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1187.1485 [a lot] of it's lost because it's, 1189.0632 1101 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1189.3580 you know what I'm saying? 1189.9687 1102 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1191.0006 Right. 1191.5422 1103 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1191.5422 (pause 0.40) 1191.9412 1104 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1191.9412 Know what I'm saying? 1192.6080 1105 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1192.5378 Mm-hm. 1192.9169 1106 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1192.8116 [] 1193.4293 1107 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1193.0924 [Yeah] exactly. You [know it's like] 1194.5454 1108 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1194.0664 [S- ] 1195.1474 1109 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1194.8737 [why?] 1195.1966 1110 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1195.4493 [] 1196.2916 1111 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1196.1652 [So], uh, 1196.9023 1112 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1197.8780 yeah it's, uh, 1198.7624 1113 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1198.7624 (pause 0.77) 1199.5346 1114 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1199.5346 and that's one of the things that, uh, 1201.3175 1115 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1201.3175 (pause 0.27) 1201.5896 1116 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1201.5896 I w- 1201.8353 1117 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1201.8353 (pause 0.22) 1202.0529 1118 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1202.0529 I'm really 1203.0357 1119 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1203.0357 (pause 0.29) 1203.3235 1120 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1203.3235 pushing to take them, 1204.8326 1121 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1204.8326 (pause 0.27) 1205.1064 1122 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1205.1064 my kids, 1205.8224 1123 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1205.8224 (pause 0.62) 1206.4385 1124 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1206.4385 to the, uh, African American Museum 1208.6426 1125 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1208.6426 (pause 1.06) 1209.7003 1126 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1209.7003 because there's so much there 1211.7815 1127 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1211.7815 (pause 1.38) 1213.1639 1128 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1213.1639 that's a part of us 1214.2589 1129 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1214.2589 (pause 0.54) 1214.7962 1130 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1214.7962 that they have no clue about 1216.5305 1131 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1216.5305 (pause 0.42) 1216.9482 1132 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1216.9482 because they're not getting it 1218.2619 1133 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1218.2619 (pause 0.55) 1218.8070 1134 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1218.8070 in school, 1219.5927 1135 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1219.5927 (pause 0.25) 1219.8476 1136 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1219.8476 or the little bit that they do get they learn enough just to pass the test and get out. 1223.7522 1137 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1224.3114 Mm-hm. 1225.1963 1138 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1225.5927 You know? 1226.0033 1139 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1226.0033 (pause 0.79) 1226.7962 1140 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1226.7962 And it is 1228.1482 1141 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1228.1482 (pause 1.06) 1229.2101 1142 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1229.2101 that- that is been like the- 1230.2619 1143 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1230.2619 (pause 0.23) 1230.4955 1144 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1230.4955 the greatest thing 1231.7768 1145 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1231.7768 (pause 0.17) 1231.9467 1146 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1231.9467 that I am so proud that they did 1234.1624 1147 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1234.1624 (pause 0.22) 1234.3818 1148 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1234.3818 because 1235.0543 1149 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1235.0543 (pause 0.80) 1235.8513 1150 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1235.8513 we didn't have that. 1236.7928 1151 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1236.7928 (pause 0.39) 1237.1822 1152 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1237.1822 We didn't have a place where you could take your entire 1239.3129 1153 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1239.3129 (pause 0.83) 1240.1412 1154 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1240.1412 culture 1240.7004 1155 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1240.7004 (pause 0.63) 1241.3346 1156 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1241.3346 and go see it from the beginning of when we got here 1244.2794 1157 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1244.2794 (pause 0.96) 1245.2421 1158 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1245.2421 to 1245.7801 1159 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1245.7801 (pause 0.45) 1246.2261 1160 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1246.2261 present day. 1246.9269 1161 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1246.9269 (pause 0.49) 1247.4195 1162 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1247.4195 You know, and from what they were telling me they've gone beyond /B-/ 1250.3219 1163 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1250.3219 (pause 0.44) 1250.7608 1164 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1250.7608 Obama 1251.3129 1165 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1251.3129 (pause 0.70) 1252.0137 1166 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1252.0137 and they have 1253.0018 1167 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1253.0018 (pause 0.42) 1253.4266 1168 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1253.4266 the- the 1254.1274 1169 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1254.1274 (pause 0.28) 1254.4106 1170 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1254.4106 Trayvon Martins, 1255.5715 1171 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1255.5715 (pause 0.27) 1255.8405 1172 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1255.8405 they have all the 1256.8882 1173 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1256.8882 (pause 0.64) 1257.5253 1174 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1257.5253 killings that they've had. They have all of that stuff in there 1259.9646 1175 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1259.9646 (pause 0.55) 1260.5097 1176 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1260.5097 to get a full spectrum of what life for African Americans has been in this country. 1265.0827 1177 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1265.0827 (pause 1.31) 1266.3893 1178 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1266.3893 [So it's-] 1267.1468 1179 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1266.5734 [Hm.] 1266.9061 1180 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1268.3006 Yeah instead of the illusion. 1269.9996 1181 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1270.0562 Yes. 1270.4739 1182 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1270.4739 (pause 0.23) 1270.7075 1183 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1270.7075 [You know.] 1271.1888 1184 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1270.7287 [] 1272.1195 1185 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1271.6531 [You know.] 1272.0354 1186 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1272.2123 And 1272.6088 1187 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1272.6088 (pause 0.66) 1273.2671 1188 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1273.2671 how prisons have been set up and why they were set up [and] 1276.8207 1189 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1276.2473 [Hm.] 1276.7145 1190 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1277.8088 it- it's just 1278.7220 1191 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1278.7220 (pause 0.32) 1279.0406 1192 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1279.0406 you know you come out of there 1280.4918 1193 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1280.4918 (pause 1.61) 1282.0987 1194 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1282.0987 changed. 1282.7853 1195 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1282.7853 (pause 0.45) 1283.2313 1196 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1283.2313 So to [speak.] 1284.5451 1197 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1284.2265 [I] can only [imagine. ] 1286.6404 1198 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1285.6352 [Yeah,] 1285.8901 1199 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1285.8901 (pause 0.26) 1286.1520 1200 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1286.1520 [have you been yet?] 1286.7537 1201 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1287.0581 Yes I've been. 1287.6739 1202 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1287.7518 [Mm-hm.] 1288.2332 1203 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1288.0067 [I've] been. 1288.4314 1204 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1289.2496 Have you seen the whole thing? 1290.1699 1205 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1290.3114 Yeah we- a- nah, we didn't go through the whole thing. [It was a lot.] 1292.8103 1206 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1292.3502 [Mm-hm.] 1292.8032 1207 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1292.9731 [It is.] 1293.3696 1208 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1293.1359 [Cause her] mom was tired. 1294.2757 1209 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1294.3252 Mm-hm. 1294.6792 1210 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1295.2638 But 1295.5611 1211 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1295.5611 (pause 0.20) 1295.7593 1212 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1295.7593 it was- 1296.3185 1213 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1296.3185 (pause 0.17) 1296.4884 1214 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1296.4884 it was definitely interesting. 1297.7556 1215 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1297.8476 Yeah. 1298.2086 1216 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1298.2086 (pause 0.91) 1299.1147 1217 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1299.1147 I haven't- 1299.5890 1218 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1299.5890 (pause 0.69) 1300.2757 1219 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1300.2757 I haven't been yet. 1301.0189 1220 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1301.0189 (pause 0.37) 1301.3841 1221 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1301.3841 I'm supposed [to go next week.] 1302.6409 1222 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1301.8726 [O- one] of the interesting things for me like when I went in there 1304.8386 1223 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1305.2351 was, um, 1305.9925 1224 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1305.9925 (pause 0.68) 1306.6721 1225 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1306.6721 you know, you go around and you start noticing other things outside of the 1309.8830 1226 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1310.0670 Right. 1310.3785 1227 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1310.4139 museum. [You know, you start] looking, you know, 1312.4951 1228 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1311.0510 [Mm-hm.] 1311.5531 1229 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1312.6438 and you start noticing, you start seeing what products 1315.1184 1230 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1315.1184 (pause 0.55) 1315.6635 1231 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1315.6635 are being sold. 1316.6971 1232 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1316.7041 [Mm-hm. Mm-hm.] 1317.7943 1233 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1316.8457 [You know I looked at- I looked] at everything. [I wanna know] who's- okay. 1319.8442 1234 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1318.4314 [Mm-hm.] 1318.8581 1235 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1320.1132 I know this is you know, it's nice and [everything. Alright where the] money going? 1322.8416 1236 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1321.7272 [Mm-hm.] 1322.3360 1237 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1322.8953 Mm-hm. 1323.2917 1238 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1323.6810 So I try to pay attention to [everything.] You know I was [looking at] all- who's- 1327.1255 1239 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1325.1180 [Oh yeah.] 1325.4862 1240 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1325.4862 (pause 0.44) 1325.9292 1241 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1325.9292 [Oh yeah.] 1326.2336 1242 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1327.6352 what products can be sold. Went to the bookstore and then aks for certain books. He was like oh they won't allow that book. 1332.3681 1243 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1332.4389 Mm-hm. 1332.8990 1244 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1332.9769 You know, [ain't gonna allow] that but they- they'll- this is the only one they- they let this one get through. 1336.3818 1245 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1333.3945 [Mm-hm.] 1333.8688 1246 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1333.8688 (pause 2.48) 1336.3535 1247 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1336.3535 Mm-hm. 1336.8137 1248 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1336.8986 You know, [I'm like] okay. 1338.2831 1249 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1337.2708 [Mm-hm.] 1337.6460 1250 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1338.4176 So I know the- 1339.2459 1251 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1339.4653 [Oh yeah.] 1339.9821 1252 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1339.4936 [you know, it's-] it's- [it's-] 1341.0298 1253 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1340.7608 [If you go] to Williamsburg, that was one of the things I noticed when I went down to Williamsburg 1344.2123 1254 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1345.1114 and they had one of their stores 1346.7395 1255 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1346.7395 (pause 0.76) 1347.4970 1256 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1347.4970 and they were talking about the plantations. 1349.2667 1257 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1349.2667 (pause 0.84) 1350.1062 1258 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1350.1062 And 1350.7433 1259 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1350.7433 (pause 1.12) 1351.8617 1260 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1351.8617 you read this stuff and it's like 1353.9500 1261 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1353.9500 (pause 0.25) 1354.1978 1262 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1354.1978 the servants 1355.2596 1263 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1355.2596 (pause 0.83) 1356.0849 1264 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1356.0849 who worked in the fields. 1357.5361 1265 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1357.5361 (pause 1.60) 1359.1359 1266 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1359.1359 I'm reading this thing. I g- I bought it. I was like the servants who worked in the field? You mean the slaves who worked in the field. 1364.8528 1267 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1364.9802 Right. 1365.5394 1268 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1365.5182 You know what- where did servants come from? 1367.6419 1269 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1368.2761 And they were talking about how sometimes the servants would be corrupt 1372.3535 1270 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1372.3535 (pause 0.53) 1372.8844 1271 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1372.8844 so that the 1373.8726 1272 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1373.8726 (pause 0.23) 1374.0991 1273 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1374.0991 owner- they never said master. 1375.7626 1274 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1375.7626 (pause 0.45) 1376.2157 1275 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1376.2157 They said so that the owner of the- 1378.1978 1276 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1378.1978 (pause 0.27) 1378.4668 1277 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1378.4668 the plantation 1379.5074 1278 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1379.5074 (pause 0.56) 1380.0637 1279 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1380.0637 would select 1381.0477 1280 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1381.0477 (pause 0.19) 1381.2388 1281 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1381.2388 one of the servants to keep an eye out 1384.2615 1282 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1384.2615 (pause 0.37) 1384.6296 1283 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1384.6296 to make sure that everyone was doing what they were supposed to do. 1388.0246 1284 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1388.0246 (pause 0.73) 1388.7537 1285 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1388.7537 I'm like okay, this is an overseer. 1390.4172 1286 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1390.4172 (pause 1.10) 1391.5215 1287 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1391.5215 [And they put] that in there. It's like there was a overseer and their job was to oversee that everybody was doing their job. 1396.5800 1288 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1391.5328 [Mm-hm.] 1392.0000 1289 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1396.7783 It's like no they're o- 1397.4366 1290 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1397.4366 (pause 0.32) 1397.7522 1291 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1397.7522 their job was to snitch 1399.0335 1292 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1399.3945 [Mm-hm.] 1400.2566 1293 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1399.6989 [on- on any] of the slaves that were trying to, 1401.7023 1294 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1401.8722 you know, 1402.2827 1295 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1402.4951 [Right.] Right. 1403.5711 1296 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1402.5942 [get away.] 1403.1534 1297 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1403.5965 You know. 1403.9363 1298 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1403.9363 (pause 0.53) 1404.4672 1299 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1404.4672 So. 1404.8707 1300 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1404.8707 (pause 1.01) 1405.8759 1301 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1405.8759 It's a- 1406.5272 1302 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1406.5272 (pause 1.64) 1408.1695 1303 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1408.1695 it's a- it's a wild kind of situation. 1410.2548 1304 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1410.2548 (pause 0.42) 1410.6725 1305 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1410.6725 It's a 1411.2742 1306 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1411.2742 (pause 0.56) 1411.8334 1307 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1411.8334 but it's 1412.4210 1308 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1412.4210 (pause 1.10) 1413.5182 1309 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1413.5182 if you can't teach it in school at least there's a place where they can go and get the information. 1418.5792 1310 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1418.5792 (pause 0.73) 1419.3129 1311 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1419.3129 You know 1419.6456 1312 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1419.6456 (pause 0.17) 1419.8155 1313 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1419.8155 because a lot of our history has been white washed. 1422.4884 1314 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1422.9202 Right. 1423.1963 1315 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1423.1963 (pause 0.40) 1423.5927 1316 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1423.5927 Cause our history interwines with- our history is American [history, so.] 1427.0756 1317 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1426.3606 [Exactly.] 1427.0968 1318 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1427.6673 Alright so, you know, when you start looking at our history it start to get ugly. 1430.6900 1319 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1430.8103 Mm-hm. 1431.2704 1320 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1431.6315 Everybody else got to take they clothes off too [right?] 1433.5823 1321 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1433.4195 [Mm-hm.] 1433.9717 1322 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1434.2548 [Mm-hm.] 1434.6866 1323 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1434.5309 [And like] the ladies say sometimes that's not always comfortable. 1437.3058 1324 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1437.2775 Exactly. 1437.7943 1325 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1438.0916 [It's not.] 1438.5093 1326 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1438.1058 [] 1438.8844 1327 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1438.7145 I mean look at Jefferson's family when when uh Sally [Hemings',] 1442.0458 1328 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1441.4441 [Mm.] 1442.0175 1329 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1442.6900 uh, 1443.2138 1330 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1443.2138 (pause 0.18) 1443.3908 1331 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1443.3908 descendants 1444.1341 1332 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1444.1341 (pause 0.13) 1444.2615 1333 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1444.2615 were like, hey we need to be here too. 1445.9363 1334 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1446.9556 [Mm-hm.] 1447.6281 1335 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1447.0547 [And] his white descendants were like what do you mean? It's like uh he had some black kids. 1452.7509 1336 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1453.0811 You know? 1453.4653 1337 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1454.0175 [Mm-mm-hm.] 1454.6687 1338 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1454.5201 [So] that was the kind of what- you know, those are pills that are 1457.4083 1339 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1458.0000 hard to swallow sometime [you know but.] 1460.0500 1340 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1459.3450 [Alright, the truth.] 1460.4532 1341 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1460.3289 Mm-hm. 1460.8245 1342 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1461.1218 The truth is [hard to swallow sometime.] 1463.0723 1343 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1461.8014 [Mm-hm. /And/] 1462.9552 1344 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1463.2567 I always say 1463.9504 1345 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1463.9504 (pause 0.23) 1464.1769 1346 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1464.1769 one of my favorite little sayings is United States of Amnesia. 1466.8740 1347 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1466.9236 Mm-hm. 1467.3625 1348 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1467.6315 [] 1468.8561 1349 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1467.6669 [Oh yeah.] 1468.0845 1350 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1468.0845 (pause 0.19) 1468.2757 1351 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1468.2757 [And it's the truth.] 1468.9198 1352 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1469.0231 [It's the truth.] 1469.7310 1353 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1469.0473 [] 1470.7787 1354 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1469.9504 [It definitely is.] 1470.7220 1355 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1471.1255 I wanna go remember what- 1472.0458 1356 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1472.0458 (pause 0.52) 1472.5626 1357 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1472.5626 I wanna remember! 1473.2775 1358 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1473.2988 Mm-hm. 1473.7377 1359 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1473.8580 1474.4102 1360 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1474.8278 So. 1475.2172 1361 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1475.2708 So what about like like with the music thing 1477.3874 1362 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1477.3874 (pause 0.79) 1478.1803 1363 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1478.1803 so /yeah/ you just gave me some really good history. I felt like I was in New York or [something. They way you just broke it down like that with the music] cause not a lot of people know. 1485.6952 1364 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1481.7947 [] 1484.4422 1365 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1485.7589 Mm-mm. 1486.1128 1366 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1486.1482 Like I didn't know all of that. I mean [I knew a lot]- I mean I knew s- some of it but [not all] of it like dang. 1491.1997 1367 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1487.7947 [Mm-hm.] 1488.2761 1368 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1488.2761 (pause 1.62) 1489.8971 1369 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1489.8971 [Mm-hm.] 1490.3927 1370 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1492.7712 But history is my thing. 1493.7609 1371 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1493.7609 (pause 0.25) 1494.0071 1372 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1494.0071 So it's like you know history, 1495.7697 1373 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1495.7697 (pause 0.57) 1496.3431 1374 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1496.3431 culture, 1496.9944 1375 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1496.9944 (pause 0.59) 1497.5890 1376 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1497.5890 and like I said I do genealogy stuff, you know, for my family so you can't help but 1502.0953 1377 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1502.0953 (pause 2.70) 1504.7924 1378 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1504.7924 retain some of the stuff and and 1506.7857 1379 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1506.7857 (pause 0.30) 1507.0888 1380 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1507.0888 the things that 1508.0883 1381 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1508.0883 (pause 0.32) 1508.4068 1382 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1508.4068 imp- that you can impart like I impart to my kids cause 1511.6844 1383 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1511.6844 (pause 0.51) 1512.1982 1384 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1512.1982 they don't know. 1512.9839 1385 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1512.9839 (pause 0.57) 1513.5573 1386 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1513.5573 You know. 1513.9506 1387 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1513.9506 (pause 0.72) 1514.6687 1388 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1514.6687 And a lot of the tragedies with musical figures like 1518.0708 1389 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1518.0708 (pause 0.64) 1518.7149 1390 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1518.7149 Ron Isley and James Brown and 1521.6032 1391 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1521.6032 (pause 0.72) 1522.3252 1392 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1522.3252 you know actors like Red Fox who lost all of the money that they had from taxes 1526.7041 1393 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1526.7041 (pause 0.62) 1527.3271 1394 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1527.3271 because nobody- 1528.2827 1395 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1528.2827 (pause 0.93) 1529.2142 1396 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1529.2142 Sammy Davis Junior, 1530.2761 1397 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1530.2761 (pause 0.32) 1530.5946 1398 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1530.5946 you know, nobody 1531.6918 1399 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1531.6918 (pause 0.80) 1532.4918 1400 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1532.4918 either took the time 1533.6810 1401 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1533.6810 (pause 0.37) 1534.0491 1402 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1534.0491 or they didn't trust anybody to handle their money. 1536.5097 1403 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1538.2723 [Mm-hm.] 1539.0510 1404 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1538.7962 [You know], so here you are, you've worked your entire life 1541.4791 1405 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1541.8726 and when it's- 1542.4035 1406 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1542.4035 (pause 0.39) 1542.7928 1407 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1542.7928 you could- you- 1543.6918 1408 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1543.6918 (pause 0.48) 1544.1732 1409 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1544.1732 you die 1544.8669 1410 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1544.8669 (pause 0.69) 1545.5536 1411 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1545.5536 your friends have to 1546.5517 1412 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1546.5517 (pause 0.62) 1547.1747 1413 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1547.1747 pony up money 1548.0637 1414 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1548.0637 (pause 0.37) 1548.4318 1415 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1548.4318 to help bury you. 1549.1680 1416 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1549.1680 (pause 1.93) 1551.1006 1417 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1551.1006 You know? 1551.4262 1418 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1551.4262 (pause 0.62) 1552.0491 1419 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1552.0491 Joe Louis. 1552.7499 1420 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1552.7499 (pause 0.32) 1553.0685 1421 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1553.0685 Same thing. 1553.6136 1422 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1553.6136 (pause 0.67) 1554.2831 1423 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1554.2831 Lost his money in taxes. 1555.6281 1424 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1555.9467 Mm. 1556.3997 1425 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1556.5342 He died. They /could/ took a collection to bury him, 1558.6579 1426 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1558.6579 (pause 0.75) 1559.4053 1427 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1559.4053 you know. 1559.8088 1428 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1559.8088 (pause 0.25) 1560.0566 1429 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1560.0566 This man had a great career. 1561.3662 1430 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1561.3662 (pause 1.39) 1562.7537 1431 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1562.7537 So. 1563.0581 1432 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1563.0581 (pause 2.04) 1565.0968 1433 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1565.0968 And the younger ones 1566.6613 1434 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1566.6613 (pause 0.97) 1567.6352 1435 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1567.6352 you would think would learn but you look at MC Hammer, 1570.7216 1436 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1570.7216 (pause 0.26) 1570.9835 1437 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1570.9835 you know, 1571.4083 1438 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1571.4083 (pause 0.42) 1571.8301 1439 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1571.8301 he lost his money. 1572.7716 1440 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1572.7716 (pause 1.18) 1573.9467 1441 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1573.9467 You look at, um, 1575.5961 1442 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1575.5961 (pause 1.69) 1577.2860 1443 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1577.2860 Mike Tyson. 1577.8584 1444 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1577.8584 (pause 0.98) 1578.8424 1445 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1578.8424 Thirty five million dollars, gone. 1580.4634 1446 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1580.4634 (pause 1.27) 1581.7377 1447 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1581.7377 Now the good thing for him is that he reinvented hisself 1584.5097 1448 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1584.5097 (pause 0.59) 1585.0972 1449 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1585.0972 and that helped. 1585.8263 1450 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1586.6617 Mm-hm. 1587.2846 1451 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1587.1997 You know. 1587.6598 1452 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1589.6036 Same thing with George Foreman. He reinvented hisself. 1591.8405 1453 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1591.8405 (pause 0.97) 1592.8103 1454 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1592.8103 So 1593.2492 1455 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1593.2492 (pause 0.47) 1593.7235 1456 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1593.7235 Muhammad Ali 1594.6721 1457 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1594.6721 (pause 0.24) 1594.9128 1458 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1594.9128 he reinvented hisself, 1596.0883 1459 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1596.0883 (pause 0.62) 1596.7079 1460 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1596.7079 you know. They- 1597.5432 1461 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1597.5432 (pause 0.69) 1598.2298 1462 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1598.2298 they 1598.6758 1463 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1598.6758 (pause 0.33) 1599.0085 1464 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1599.0085 after there- they had run through their money they found a way 1601.9929 1465 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1601.9929 (pause 0.45) 1602.4459 1466 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1602.4459 to still keep themselves relevant, 1604.1095 1467 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1604.1095 (pause 0.80) 1604.9094 1468 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1604.9094 you know. 1605.3058 1469 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1605.9925 Mm. 1606.3748 1470 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1606.3748 (pause 1.25) 1607.6248 1471 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1607.6248 You said, um, like you say you study history have you ever 1610.3360 1472 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1610.3360 (pause 1.33) 1611.6669 1473 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1611.6669 throughout studying history ever 1613.1605 1474 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1613.1605 (pause 0.44) 1613.6036 1475 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1613.6036 found some information at point you believed something was true and then 1616.8669 1476 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1616.8669 (pause 0.46) 1617.3271 1477 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1617.3271 come to find out through you studying it 1618.9765 1478 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1619.1930 Oh [yeah.] 1619.5257 1479 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1619.3700 [it wasn't] true? 1620.1062 1480 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1620.1274 Oh yeah. I mean the the s- 1621.5007 1481 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1621.5007 (pause 0.50) 1621.9962 1482 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1621.9962 the s- the st- the history of slavery is is a [classic] example 1625.7310 1483 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1624.8349 [] 1625.1888 1484 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1626.0495 because if you look at 1627.8334 1485 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1627.8334 (pause 2.42) 1630.2544 1486 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1630.2544 Roots, 1630.7712 1487 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1630.7712 (pause 1.47) 1632.2407 1488 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1632.2407 where the white man just comes on shore and then goes hunts for black people 1635.3837 1489 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1635.3837 (pause 1.00) 1636.3818 1490 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1636.3818 and that wasn't 1637.3487 1491 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1637.3487 (pause 0.18) 1637.5328 1492 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1637.5328 the essence of- there were instances of that but that wasn't the essence of slavery. The essence of slavery was from the French 1643.3587 1493 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1643.3587 (pause 1.02) 1644.3822 1494 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1644.3822 who would come and they would give 1646.5767 1495 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1646.5767 (pause 0.47) 1647.0510 1496 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1647.0510 trinkets and 1648.3960 1497 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1648.3960 (pause 1.30) 1649.6914 1498 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1649.6914 insignificant things to the tribes 1652.1237 1499 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1652.1237 (pause 0.62) 1652.7466 1500 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1652.7466 in order to, 1653.9429 1501 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1653.9429 (pause 0.20) 1654.1412 1502 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1654.1412 for them to give them their slaves. 1655.8489 1503 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1655.8489 (pause 1.19) 1657.0406 1504 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1657.0406 Because 1657.6777 1505 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1657.6777 (pause 0.27) 1657.9467 1506 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1657.9467 that was one of the things in looking at um, 1660.3960 1507 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1660.3960 (pause 1.75) 1662.1486 1508 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1662.1486 at, um, Skip Gates 1664.2086 1509 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1664.2086 (pause 0.20) 1664.4068 1510 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1664.4068 when he was doing 1665.4191 1511 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1665.4191 (pause 0.38) 1665.7943 1512 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1665.7943 these, um, documentaries on 1667.6743 1513 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1667.6743 (pause 0.24) 1667.9150 1514 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1667.9150 African Americans 1668.9415 1515 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1668.9415 (pause 1.20) 1670.1449 1516 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1670.1449 the 1670.3997 1517 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1670.3997 (pause 0.84) 1671.2351 1518 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1671.2351 the people who 1672.9552 1519 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1672.9552 (pause 0.85) 1673.8088 1520 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1673.8088 were 1674.1982 1521 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1674.1982 (pause 0.30) 1674.4955 1522 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1674.4955 conquered 1675.0052 1523 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1675.0052 (pause 0.78) 1675.7839 1524 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1675.7839 like 1675.9892 1525 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1675.9892 (pause 0.27) 1676.2582 1526 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1676.2582 our ancestors, 1677.1501 1527 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1677.7377 [Mm-hm.] 1678.0633 1528 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1677.7589 [okay?] 1678.0562 1529 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1678.4031 Our ancestors were conquered by a tribe. 1680.7008 1530 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1680.7008 (pause 1.14) 1681.8405 1531 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1681.8405 And after they were conquered and that's why, you know, I see, you know, 1685.2879 1532 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1685.2879 (pause 0.68) 1685.9717 1533 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1685.9717 taking stock in for who we are we're a strong 1688.2157 1534 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1688.2157 (pause 0.55) 1688.7608 1535 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1688.7608 group of people 1689.5253 1536 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1689.5253 (pause 0.51) 1690.0350 1537 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1690.0350 because a lot of times 1691.3021 1538 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1691.3021 (pause 0.77) 1692.0708 1539 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1692.0708 the battles took place in the middle of Africa. Africa's huge. 1695.5748 1540 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1695.5748 (pause 1.07) 1696.6438 1541 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1696.6438 So 1697.2355 1542 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1697.2355 (pause 0.42) 1697.6602 1543 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1697.6602 our tribe lost 1698.8565 1544 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1698.8565 (pause 0.47) 1699.3237 1545 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1699.3237 and then they would have death marches 1700.8953 1546 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1700.8953 (pause 0.87) 1701.7660 1547 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1701.7660 from the 1702.1836 1548 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1702.1836 (pause 0.26) 1702.4455 1549 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1702.4455 the point of the battle 1703.5215 1550 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1703.5215 (pause 0.64) 1704.1628 1551 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1704.1628 to all the way to the 1706.0458 1552 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1706.0458 (pause 0.42) 1706.4705 1553 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1706.4705 the west coast. 1707.2280 1554 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1707.7589 Mm. 1708.0562 1555 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1708.1199 The Ivory Coast. 1708.9623 1556 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1708.9623 (pause 0.42) 1709.3800 1557 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1709.3800 And that's when the slave ships would 1710.9981 1558 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1710.9981 (pause 0.28) 1711.2813 1559 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1711.2813 come in and they would say okay well- you know, 1714.2332 1560 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1714.2332 (pause 1.20) 1715.4337 1561 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1715.4337 who you- 1715.8018 1562 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1715.8018 (pause 0.22) 1716.0212 1563 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1716.0212 who do you have to to sell to us, 1718.0175 1564 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1718.0175 (pause 0.12) 1718.1378 1565 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1718.1378 you know, in exchange for whatever 1719.6386 1566 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1719.6386 (pause 0.72) 1720.3606 1567 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1720.3606 and 1720.7429 1568 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1720.7429 (pause 0.35) 1721.0968 1569 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1721.0968 our ancestors were the ones that got ex- And then after you survive that 1725.0722 1570 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1725.0722 (pause 0.62) 1725.6952 1571 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1725.6952 then you've got it- it- 1726.6650 1572 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1726.6650 (pause 0.44) 1727.1039 1573 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1727.1039 survive like a three to four month voyage on a ship 1729.8122 1574 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1729.8122 (pause 0.35) 1730.1661 1575 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1730.1661 chained in the hull of a ship 1731.4899 1576 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1731.4899 (pause 0.91) 1732.4031 1577 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1732.4031 with 1732.6367 1578 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1732.6367 (pause 0.23) 1732.8632 1579 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1732.8632 disease and everything else. 1734.4035 1580 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1734.4035 (pause 0.21) 1734.6088 1581 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1734.6088 And a lot of the times they would lose 1735.9962 1582 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1735.9962 (pause 0.29) 1736.2865 1583 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1736.2865 well over fifty percent of their cargo. 1738.1789 1584 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1738.1789 (pause 0.22) 1738.3960 1585 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1738.3960 Cause the slaves would die, you throw 'em overboard. 1740.8707 1586 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1740.8707 (pause 1.00) 1741.8688 1587 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1741.8688 Then we f- survive that, 1743.0510 1588 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1743.0510 (pause 0.25) 1743.3058 1589 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1743.3058 we get here, 1744.0916 1590 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1744.0916 (pause 0.81) 1744.8986 1591 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1744.8986 you get sold off 1746.1062 1592 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1746.1062 (pause 0.37) 1746.4743 1593 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1746.4743 at auction 1747.2742 1594 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1747.2742 (pause 0.31) 1747.5857 1595 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1747.5857 to whoever, 1748.3856 1596 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1748.3856 (pause 0.25) 1748.6404 1597 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1748.6404 to work on their 1749.5111 1598 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1749.5111 (pause 0.64) 1750.1482 1599 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1750.1482 s- plantation for for whoever and we survived that. 1753.0618 1600 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1753.0618 (pause 0.71) 1753.7768 1601 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1753.7768 And then we survived 1755.0581 1602 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1755.0581 (pause 0.23) 1755.2917 1603 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1755.2917 Jim Crow and then we survived segregation and all of that and here we are now. 1760.2998 1604 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1760.2998 (pause 1.77) 1762.0704 1605 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1762.0704 That's an incredible journey for a people to take and still be here, 1765.7414 1606 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1765.7414 (pause 0.47) 1766.2086 1607 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1766.2086 still survive. 1767.0014 1608 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1767.0014 (pause 0.98) 1767.9854 1609 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1767.9854 You know, and 1768.7712 1610 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1768.7712 (pause 0.63) 1769.4053 1611 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1769.4053 our children don't understand that. 1770.9981 1612 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1770.9981 (pause 0.22) 1771.2176 1613 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1771.2176 They don't appreciate that. 1772.3148 1614 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1772.3148 (pause 0.80) 1773.1147 1615 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1773.1147 And that's the- 1774.0350 1616 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1774.0350 (pause 0.27) 1774.3040 1617 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1774.3040 that's the sadness of it all. That's why I'm so happy that they did that museum. 1777.2671 1618 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1777.2671 (pause 0.60) 1777.8688 1619 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1777.8688 So that they can make that connection that 1779.7447 1620 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1779.7447 (pause 0.48) 1780.2261 1621 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1780.2261 you're not here by chance. 1781.8489 1622 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1781.8489 (pause 0.70) 1782.5521 1623 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1782.5521 You know. 1782.9344 1624 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1784.4422 Mm-hm. It ain't all fun and video [games and], you [know.] 1787.7198 1625 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1786.7783 [No.] 1787.1322 1626 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1787.1322 (pause 0.24) 1787.3729 1627 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1787.3729 [It's not.] 1787.7976 1628 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1788.2123 It's not. 1788.6371 1629 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1788.6371 (pause 0.79) 1789.4228 1630 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1789.4228 And 1790.0599 1631 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1790.0599 (pause 1.22) 1791.2775 1632 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1791.2775 that's- you know they were saying well you know we've got a African American president. I said 1794.8424 1633 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1794.8424 (pause 0.91) 1795.7556 1634 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1795.7556 we do 1796.1237 1635 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1796.1237 (pause 0.38) 1796.4988 1636 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1796.4988 but he did not live our experience. 1798.5234 1637 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1798.5234 (pause 1.66) 1800.1840 1638 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1800.1840 Okay? 1800.5238 1639 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1800.5238 (pause 0.63) 1801.1538 1640 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1801.1538 He had 1801.6564 1641 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1801.6564 (pause 0.73) 1802.3856 1642 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1802.3856 he had white parents. 1803.5536 1643 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1803.5536 (pause 0.67) 1804.2261 1644 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1804.2261 He had a white parent 1804.9482 1645 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1804.9482 (pause 1.00) 1805.9433 1646 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1805.9433 and he had- a mother 1806.8141 1647 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1806.8141 (pause 0.48) 1807.2954 1648 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1807.2954 and a African father. 1808.4068 1649 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1808.4068 (pause 0.20) 1808.6050 1650 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1808.6050 He truly is an African American. 1810.4526 1651 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1810.4526 (pause 1.12) 1811.5752 1652 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1811.5752 But 1811.8655 1653 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1811.8655 (pause 0.56) 1812.4247 1654 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1812.4247 he didn't ex- 1813.2459 1655 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1813.2459 (pause 0.37) 1813.6140 1656 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1813.6140 he didn't- 1814.4847 1657 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1814.4847 (pause 1.12) 1815.6032 1658 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1815.6032 his family- now Michelle's family grew up with the experience 1818.5257 1659 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1818.5257 (pause 0.29) 1818.8141 1660 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1818.8141 of 1819.1751 1661 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1819.1751 (pause 0.32) 1819.4936 1662 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1819.4936 of what we had 1820.4705 1663 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1820.4705 (pause 0.36) 1820.8316 1664 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1820.8316 in this country. 1821.5819 1665 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1821.5819 (pause 1.41) 1822.9906 1666 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1822.9906 But Barack understands it 1824.3964 1667 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1824.3964 (pause 1.50) 1825.8971 1668 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1825.8971 and he identifies with it. 1827.4514 1669 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1827.4514 (pause 0.86) 1828.3110 1670 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1828.3110 But so far as 1829.5398 1671 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1829.5398 (pause 0.95) 1830.4884 1672 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1830.4884 saying 1830.9698 1673 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1830.9698 (pause 0.52) 1831.4866 1674 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1831.4866 I can relate to you, 1832.8316 1675 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1832.8316 (pause 0.88) 1833.7164 1676 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1833.7164 well no you can't really. 1834.9137 1677 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1835.2525 [Right.] 1836.1687 1678 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1835.5965 [] 1836.6583 1679 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1836.7999 Sounds good. 1837.4582 1680 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1837.4795 Mm-hm. 1837.8971 1681 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1838.1520 [] 1838.6050 1682 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1838.3431 [Yeah.] 1838.6333 1683 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1838.7962 But you you can't. 1839.6379 1684 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1840.1836 Right. 1840.6154 1685 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1841.2567 So. 1841.6036 1686 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1842.8353 Do you still like- 1843.6423 1687 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1843.6423 (pause 0.25) 1843.8901 1688 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1843.8901 what schools did you go to? 1844.9828 1689 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1845.8014 I went to 1846.6154 1690 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1846.6154 (pause 0.59) 1847.2101 1691 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1847.2101 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Elementary, 1848.6221 1692 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1848.6221 (pause 0.28) 1848.8990 1693 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1848.8990 /RD-SCHOOL-5/ Elementary 1850.5838 1694 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1850.5838 (pause 0.33) 1850.9094 1695 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1850.9094 on Nineteenth Street. 1851.9571 1696 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1851.9571 (pause 1.02) 1852.9765 1697 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1852.9765 And then from there /RD-2/ Junior High School. Now you talk about 1857.3483 1698 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1857.3483 (pause 0.60) 1857.9500 1699 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1857.9500 culture shock 1858.7145 1700 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1858.7145 (pause 1.23) 1859.9433 1701 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1859.9433 cause that was in Georgetown. 1860.9486 1702 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1860.9486 (pause 1.14) 1862.0883 1703 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1862.0883 So I've gone from a predominantly 1864.3275 1704 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1864.3275 (pause 0.40) 1864.7287 1705 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1864.7287 I'd say it was about 1865.4862 1706 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1865.4862 (pause 1.70) 1867.1822 1707 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1867.1822 sixty to seventy percent 1868.7324 1708 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1868.7324 (pause 0.74) 1869.4757 1709 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1869.4757 African American elementary school 1871.1464 1710 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1871.1464 (pause 1.64) 1872.7857 1711 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1872.7857 to a fifty fifty 1875.5961 1712 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1875.5961 (pause 0.30) 1875.9005 1713 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1875.9005 black white environment. 1877.2385 1714 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1877.2385 (pause 1.88) 1879.1184 1715 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1879.1184 And then by the time I got to high school it was more 1882.4668 1716 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1882.4668 (pause 0.95) 1883.4195 1717 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1883.4195 seventy thirty 1884.5380 1718 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1884.5380 (pause 0.63) 1885.1680 1719 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1885.1680 black to white. 1885.8688 1720 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1886.9448 Mm. 1887.3908 1721 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1887.3766 Because as we started- they were doing bussing 1889.5286 1722 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1890.3610 and so as they started doing bussing the white people took their kids out of the public schools and put 'em in private school. 1895.5145 1723 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1895.5145 (pause 0.87) 1896.3893 1724 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1896.3893 Those that could afford it. 1897.3440 1725 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1899.5394 Cause they ain't want 'em to mingle. 1900.7924 1726 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1900.7924 (pause 1.36) 1902.1486 1727 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1902.1486 Got [you.] 1902.7306 1728 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1902.5521 [Yeah.] 1902.8636 1729 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1903.8901 The quali- the quality of education wasn't gonna be the same. So I'm- 1907.2101 1730 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1907.2101 (pause 1.47) 1908.6796 1731 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1908.6796 we used to have, uh, in our junior high school, 1910.7537 1732 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1910.7537 (pause 0.62) 1911.3696 1733 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1911.3696 we used to have like past classes 1913.0939 1734 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1913.0939 (pause 0.28) 1913.3700 1735 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1913.3700 that they would put pictures on the wall 1915.0335 1736 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1915.0335 (pause 1.08) 1916.1166 1737 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1916.1166 And you would go back from like the thirties 1918.5093 1738 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1918.5093 (pause 0.75) 1919.2567 1739 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1919.2567 see /a number of/ white people- /number of/ white people 1920.7857 1740 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1920.7857 (pause 0.30) 1921.0831 1741 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1921.0831 and then probably around 1922.3856 1742 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1922.3856 (pause 0.29) 1922.6758 1743 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1922.6758 sixty six 1924.1765 1744 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1924.1765 (pause 0.47) 1924.6508 1745 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1924.6508 you would see one or two black people 1925.9584 1746 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1925.9584 (pause 0.98) 1926.9344 1747 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1926.9344 until you got to 1928.3573 1748 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1928.3573 (pause 1.39) 1929.7518 1749 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1929.7518 close to ours- 1930.6792 1750 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1930.6792 (pause 0.75) 1931.4337 1751 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1931.4337 year 1931.8301 1752 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1931.8301 (pause 0.57) 1932.3964 1753 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1932.3964 and then you would see 1933.5149 1754 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1933.5149 (pause 1.51) 1935.0298 1755 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1935.0298 sixty forty. 1935.9146 1756 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1935.9146 (pause 0.83) 1936.7429 1757 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1936.7429 First it was like you would- you could see the transition as the black people were coming in. 1940.5201 1758 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1940.5201 (pause 0.88) 1941.4049 1759 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1941.4049 You know, where it would be like 1942.6367 1760 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1942.6367 (pause 0.55) 1943.1818 1761 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1943.1818 ninety percent white and you know ten percent black and then it just slowly kept chopping down 1948.3960 1762 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1948.9057 [Mm-hm.] 1949.7622 1763 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1948.9128 [to where] 1949.4761 1764 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1949.9433 when you got to probably about nineteen 1952.4847 1765 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1952.4847 (pause 1.35) 1953.8368 1766 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1953.8368 sixty seven 1955.4761 1767 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1955.4761 (pause 0.52) 1956.0000 1768 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1956.0000 it was like fifty fifty 1957.4866 1769 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1957.4866 (pause 0.91) 1958.3927 1770 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1958.3927 and then by the time I graduated 1960.7783 1771 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1960.7783 (pause 0.45) 1961.2313 1772 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1961.2313 from junior high school it was probably about 1963.3385 1773 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1963.3385 (pause 1.84) 1965.1784 1774 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1965.1784 seventy thirty, black to white. 1966.7004 1775 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1968.3398 Seventy thirty? 1969.1751 1776 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1969.6777 Mm-hm. 1970.0458 1777 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1971.5657 What about 1971.9480 1778 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1971.9480 (pause 0.47) 1972.4152 1779 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 1972.4152 back in the times w- um, what about the riots in DC? How was that experience? 1976.1033 1780 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1977.4241 Um, 1978.2807 1781 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1978.2807 (pause 1.64) 1979.9230 1782 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1979.9230 it was 1981.0627 1783 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1981.0627 (pause 2.52) 1983.5869 1784 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1983.5869 it was scary. 1984.6842 1785 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1984.6842 (pause 1.64) 1986.3265 1786 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1986.3265 Because, um, 1987.7255 1787 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1987.7255 (pause 1.26) 1988.9811 1788 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1988.9811 it was 1989.9157 1789 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1989.9157 (pause 1.80) 1991.7177 1790 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1991.7177 there was a lot of anger. There had been anger in the city 1994.4926 1791 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1994.4926 (pause 0.61) 1995.0985 1792 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1995.0985 brewing 1995.5799 1793 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1995.5799 (pause 1.54) 1997.1231 1794 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1997.1231 and 1997.8310 1795 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1997.8310 (pause 0.25) 1998.0858 1796 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1998.0858 that kind of 1999.3671 1797 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1999.3671 (pause 0.42) 1999.7847 1798 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 1999.7847 pushed it over the edge 2001.0944 1799 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2001.0944 (pause 0.46) 2001.5586 1800 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2001.5586 and so 2002.2099 1801 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2002.2099 (pause 0.42) 2002.6346 1802 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2002.6346 but the- the- the- the mentality of it was a thing that was just kind of 2006.4431 1803 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2006.4431 (pause 1.34) 2007.7851 1804 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2007.7851 got me because 2008.7479 1805 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2008.7479 (pause 0.57) 2009.3142 1806 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2009.3142 we're burning and- and the white- 2011.8414 1807 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2011.8414 (pause 0.34) 2012.1812 1808 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2012.1812 the- the white 2013.2501 1809 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2013.2501 (pause 0.95) 2014.2028 1810 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2014.2028 l- 2014.5001 1811 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2014.5001 (pause 0.21) 2014.7054 1812 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2014.7054 uh, 2015.1726 1813 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2015.1726 (pause 0.37) 2015.5407 1814 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2015.5407 law and order arm of the government 2018.0467 1815 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2018.0467 (pause 0.52) 2018.5634 1816 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2018.5634 made sure 2019.5374 1817 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2019.5374 (pause 0.52) 2020.0541 1818 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2020.0541 that all of the 2021.1726 1819 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2021.1726 (pause 0.90) 2022.0716 1820 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2022.0716 stuff that we were doing 2023.3600 1821 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2023.3600 (pause 0.47) 2023.8272 1822 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2023.8272 stayed in our neighborhood. 2025.1864 1823 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2025.1864 (pause 0.85) 2026.0400 1824 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2026.0400 So you couldn't go to Sixteenth Street 2028.0362 1825 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2028.0362 (pause 0.41) 2028.4468 1826 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2028.4468 burning nothing, 2029.1901 1827 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2029.1901 (pause 0.51) 2029.6998 1828 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2029.6998 and you couldn't go downtown 2031.3675 1829 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2031.3675 (pause 0.93) 2032.3019 1830 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2032.3019 burning nothing. 2032.9390 1831 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2032.9390 (pause 0.56) 2033.4983 1832 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2033.4983 They had all of it 2034.6026 1833 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2034.6026 (pause 0.75) 2035.3529 1834 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2035.3529 kind of centered 2036.7829 1835 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2036.7829 (pause 0.75) 2037.5303 1836 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2037.5303 around 2038.1816 1837 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2038.1816 (pause 0.69) 2038.8753 1838 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2038.8753 Georgia Avenue, 2039.9584 1839 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2039.9584 (pause 1.04) 2040.9990 1840 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2040.9990 Fourteenth Street, 2041.8980 1841 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2041.8980 (pause 0.64) 2042.5422 1842 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2042.5422 all of that was contained. 2043.7710 1843 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2043.7710 (pause 1.08) 2044.8470 1844 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2044.8470 And so we burned down 2046.8574 1845 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2046.8574 (pause 0.59) 2047.4450 1846 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2047.4450 all of the stores that serviced us. 2049.6988 1847 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2049.6988 (pause 1.51) 2051.2080 1848 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2051.2080 And a lot of Jewish people owned those stores, 2053.2255 1849 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2053.2255 (pause 1.39) 2054.6130 1850 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2054.6130 so we thought we were doing something. 2056.2170 1851 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2056.7550 Wasn't doing nothing. 2057.5884 1852 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2057.5620 No. 2057.8876 1853 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2058.1495 Cause at the end of the day we didn't have any place to go shopping. 2060.4431 1854 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2060.4431 (pause 1.19) 2061.6365 1855 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2061.6365 And at the end of the day we didn't have a grocery store to go. 2063.8451 1856 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2063.8451 (pause 0.91) 2064.7512 1857 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2064.7512 Same thing that they do now when you saw w- with uh, Rodney King and everything else, they 2069.2151 1858 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2069.2151 (pause 0.35) 2069.5620 1859 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2069.5620 they contain 2070.5813 1860 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2070.5813 (pause 1.28) 2071.8626 1861 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2071.8626 the violence 2072.5705 1862 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2072.5705 (pause 0.30) 2072.8678 1863 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2072.8678 into the black community 2074.2560 1864 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2074.2560 (pause 0.57) 2074.8258 1865 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2074.8258 and l- let 2075.7106 1866 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2075.7106 (pause 0.61) 2076.3194 1867 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2076.3194 them go crazy 2077.2114 1868 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2077.2114 (pause 0.59) 2077.7989 1869 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2077.7989 and then at the end of it, 2078.9599 1870 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2078.9599 (pause 1.01) 2079.9692 1871 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2079.9692 they have burned down all of the resources that they had in the community. 2083.4237 1872 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2085.0419 And then they come in with new resources and take over [from that point] on. 2088.5408 1873 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2087.7035 [Mm-hm.] 2088.1283 1874 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2088.6309 Mm-hm. 2088.9494 1875 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2089.7494 Makes sense. 2090.4714 1876 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2090.5676 Yup. 2090.7516 1877 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2090.7516 (pause 1.27) 2092.0258 1878 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2092.0258 It's a cycle. You would think that after sixty eight they're like oh okay we're done. No. 2096.0891 1879 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2096.0891 (pause 0.92) 2097.0065 1880 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2097.0065 L- lot of things that, you know, 2098.7691 1881 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2098.7691 (pause 1.16) 2099.9301 1882 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2099.9301 when I was talking to a friend of mine, we were saying that the other day. If you listen to a lot of the protest songs 2104.7904 1883 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2104.7904 (pause 0.53) 2105.3213 1884 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2105.3213 of the sixties, 2106.3477 1885 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2106.3477 (pause 0.86) 2107.2043 1886 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2107.2043 uh, 2107.7423 1887 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2107.7423 (pause 1.53) 2109.2684 1888 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2109.2684 talking about, 2109.9692 1889 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2109.9692 (pause 0.18) 2110.1462 1890 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2110.1462 you know, war 2111.1160 1891 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2111.1160 (pause 0.27) 2111.3850 1892 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2111.3850 and poverty and how things are going, 2113.7989 1893 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2113.7989 (pause 0.56) 2114.3581 1894 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2114.3581 the cycle is the same. 2115.9356 1895 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2115.9356 (pause 0.47) 2116.4081 1896 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2116.4081 You could take those songs from the sixties, play 'em today 2118.9990 1897 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2118.9990 (pause 0.72) 2119.7210 1898 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2119.7210 and it'd be the same. 2120.4360 1899 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2121.4666 Mm. 2121.9383 1900 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2122.8753 Cause all the issues that they had, 2124.4610 1901 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2124.4610 (pause 0.60) 2125.0627 1902 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2125.0627 you know, 2125.4096 1903 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2125.4096 (pause 0.45) 2125.8626 1904 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2125.8626 Marvin Gaye, 2126.6130 1905 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2126.6130 (pause 0.42) 2127.0377 1906 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2127.0377 What's Going On? 2127.7781 1907 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2127.7781 (pause 1.25) 2129.0240 1908 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2129.0240 From the seventies, you can put here in twenty sixteen it's still relevant. 2131.9122 1909 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2133.1197 Yup. 2133.5020 1910 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2133.5020 (pause 0.71) 2134.2170 1911 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2134.2170 Why you think it hasn't been change? 2135.6537 1912 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2137.1547 We have to- there are a number of things. There- like- like I said this it's- it's- 2141.2505 1913 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2141.2505 (pause 0.93) 2142.1849 1914 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2142.1849 it's us having 2143.5795 1915 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2143.5795 (pause 0.56) 2144.1387 1916 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2144.1387 a political voice number one, which we don't. 2146.6983 1917 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2146.6983 (pause 1.03) 2147.7248 1918 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2147.7248 We have people who 2148.9282 1919 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2148.9282 (pause 0.80) 2149.7281 1920 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2149.7281 make noise, 2150.5068 1921 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2150.5068 (pause 0.43) 2150.9357 1922 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2150.9357 you know, 2151.3533 1923 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2151.3533 (pause 0.87) 2152.2240 1924 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2152.2240 but we don't have the- the- the thing that ch- 2155.0981 1925 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2155.0981 (pause 0.21) 2155.3105 1926 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2155.3105 that- that I've seen is that, 2157.2089 1927 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2157.2089 (pause 0.40) 2157.6082 1928 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2157.6082 case in point 2158.4223 1929 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2158.4223 (pause 1.43) 2159.8522 1930 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2159.8522 during the sixties when 2161.0061 1931 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2161.0061 (pause 0.31) 2161.3175 1932 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2161.3175 as long as we were scattered 2163.3887 1933 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2163.3887 (pause 0.89) 2164.2807 1934 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2164.2807 and we didn't have unity 2165.5195 1935 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2165.5195 (pause 0.96) 2166.4822 1936 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2166.4822 nobody cared. 2167.2184 1937 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2167.2184 (pause 0.83) 2168.0467 1938 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2168.0467 But when we had 2169.2218 1939 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2169.2218 (pause 0.22) 2169.4383 1940 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2169.4383 even in the white 2170.1179 1941 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2170.1179 (pause 0.24) 2170.3585 1942 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2170.3585 sector 2170.8895 1943 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2170.8895 (pause 0.24) 2171.1301 1944 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2171.1301 with people who like they loved John Kennedy. 2174.5167 1945 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2174.5167 (pause 0.70) 2175.2118 1946 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2175.2118 John Kennedy could do no wrong. 2176.5921 1947 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2176.5921 (pause 1.44) 2178.0292 1948 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2178.0292 Okay well we can't have a person, a single person, 2181.0094 1949 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2181.0094 (pause 0.28) 2181.2896 1950 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2181.2896 the mind thought I believe was that we can't have a person 2184.5813 1951 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2184.5813 (pause 1.15) 2185.7281 1952 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2185.7281 who is that 2186.7050 1953 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2186.7050 (pause 1.24) 2187.9480 1954 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2187.9480 important 2188.5568 1955 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2188.5568 (pause 0.52) 2189.0806 1956 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2189.0806 that people will just 2190.1495 1957 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2190.1495 (pause 0.69) 2190.8432 1958 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2190.8432 follow. 2191.4166 1959 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2191.4166 (pause 0.74) 2192.1599 1960 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2192.1599 That's a problem. 2192.9032 1961 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2192.9032 (pause 0.85) 2193.7568 1962 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2193.7568 So 2194.1886 1963 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2194.1886 (pause 0.28) 2194.4718 1964 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2194.4718 he disappears. They get rid of him. 2195.9725 1965 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2195.9725 (pause 1.32) 2197.2963 1966 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2197.2963 You know? 2197.7281 1967 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2197.7281 (pause 1.46) 2199.1905 1968 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2199.1905 Bobby Kennedy, 2200.0400 1969 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2200.0400 (pause 1.22) 2201.2576 1970 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2201.2576 another polari- you know, everybody's behind Bobby. Whatever Bobby goes, 2205.0519 1971 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2205.0519 (pause 0.19) 2205.2401 1972 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2205.2401 you know? 2205.6506 1973 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2205.6506 (pause 0.32) 2205.9692 1974 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2205.9692 He's- 2206.2807 1975 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2206.2807 (pause 0.80) 2207.0806 1976 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2207.0806 we can't have that. 2207.6965 1977 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2207.6965 (pause 0.76) 2208.4610 1978 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2208.4610 He goes. 2209.0262 1979 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2209.0262 (pause 1.23) 2210.2590 1980 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2210.2590 Medgar Evers. 2211.1056 1981 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2211.1056 (pause 1.20) 2212.3019 1982 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2212.3019 [Medgar Evers got] a lot of black people following him. 2214.3548 1983 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2212.3090 [Hm mm-hm.] 2212.9925 1984 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2215.2467 We can't have that. 2216.1145 1985 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2216.1145 (pause 0.74) 2216.8578 1986 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2216.8578 Medgar goes. 2217.6506 1987 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2217.6506 (pause 0.69) 2218.3373 1988 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2218.3373 Martin Luther King 2219.2717 1989 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2219.2717 (pause 0.85) 2220.1212 1990 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2220.1212 has people following him. 2221.1122 1991 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2221.1122 (pause 0.52) 2221.6361 1992 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2221.6361 He's getting out of- he's getting out- he's got too much control. 2224.0862 1993 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2224.0862 (pause 1.39) 2225.4770 1994 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2225.4770 He disappears. 2226.2699 1995 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2226.2699 (pause 2.02) 2228.2944 1996 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2228.2944 Malcolm X. 2229.0419 1997 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2229.0419 (pause 0.69) 2229.7356 1998 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2229.7356 Oh no. 2230.5497 1999 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2230.5497 (pause 0.24) 2230.7904 2000 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2230.7904 He's too radical. 2231.7814 2001 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2231.7814 (pause 0.72) 2232.5035 2002 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2232.5035 We can't have him 2233.3034 2003 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2233.3034 (pause 0.17) 2233.4733 2004 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2233.4733 going out here, doing whatever. 2234.7546 2005 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2234.7546 (pause 1.07) 2235.8276 2006 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2235.8276 And they were seeing that as they k- I think what happens is is that they were seeing is that when they killed 2240.6100 2007 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2240.6100 (pause 0.47) 2241.0843 2008 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2241.0843 these leaders, they became martyrs. 2243.0877 2009 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2243.0877 (pause 0.73) 2243.8168 2010 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2243.8168 So they became bigger in death than they were when they were alive. 2247.3664 2011 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2247.3664 (pause 1.29) 2248.6559 2012 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2248.6559 And so 2249.7389 2013 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2249.7389 (pause 1.57) 2251.3105 2014 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2251.3105 I mean anytime you've got the head of- I mean think about it. 2254.0612 2015 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2254.0612 (pause 0.32) 2254.3798 2016 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2254.3798 Anytime you've got the head of the FBI, you've got J. Edgar Hoover 2258.0891 2017 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2258.0891 (pause 0.85) 2258.9386 2018 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2258.9386 out 2259.3887 2019 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2259.3887 (pause 1.21) 2260.5961 2020 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2260.5961 with his boyfriend 2261.7885 2021 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2261.7885 (pause 0.65) 2262.4397 2022 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2262.4397 at 2262.9353 2023 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2262.9353 (pause 0.45) 2263.3883 2024 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2263.3883 a racetrack 2264.2944 2025 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2264.2944 (pause 1.43) 2265.7214 2026 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2265.7214 and somebody comes up to him and says the president of the United States has just been assassinated. 2270.0962 2027 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2270.0962 (pause 1.04) 2271.1410 2028 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2271.1410 And he says, okay fine. 2272.2382 2029 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2272.2382 (pause 1.17) 2273.4062 2030 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2273.4062 Go 2273.7035 2031 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2273.7035 (pause 0.23) 2273.9371 2032 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2273.9371 look- you know, find out what all it is about it and get back with me. 2277.2126 2033 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2280.6309 2280.9707 2034 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2281.7140 I mean these are things that, 2283.3171 2035 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2283.3171 (pause 0.78) 2284.0966 2036 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2284.0966 you know, 2284.6205 2037 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2284.6205 (pause 0.40) 2285.0240 2038 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2285.0240 just kind of- 2286.1920 2039 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2286.1920 (pause 1.85) 2288.0467 2040 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2288.0467 I don't know, you know, if there's- I don't know if there's like a just a power structure, 2294.1953 2041 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2294.1953 (pause 0.84) 2295.0348 2042 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2295.0348 um, case in point, 2296.6488 2043 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2296.6488 (pause 0.98) 2297.6328 2044 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2297.6328 Cheney. 2298.1566 2045 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2298.1566 (pause 0.75) 2298.9070 2046 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2298.9070 You know they're talking about Donald Trump. Look at- 2300.3865 2047 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2300.3865 (pause 0.25) 2300.6342 2048 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2300.6342 at Dick Cheney. 2301.4500 2049 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2301.4500 (pause 0.89) 2302.3444 2050 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2302.3444 He 2302.7904 2051 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2302.7904 (pause 0.59) 2303.3850 2052 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2303.3850 was the president of Halliburton. 2304.6521 2053 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2304.6521 (pause 1.44) 2306.0962 2054 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2306.0962 Okay. Y- you the president of Halliburton. 2308.1939 2055 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2308.1939 (pause 0.48) 2308.6700 2056 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2308.6700 Halliburton gets the contract 2310.1920 2057 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2310.1920 (pause 0.45) 2310.6450 2058 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2310.6450 for the Iraq war 2311.7635 2059 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2311.7635 (pause 0.81) 2312.5776 2060 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2312.5776 and it's a no bid contract. 2313.9550 2061 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2313.9550 (pause 0.42) 2314.3798 2062 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2314.3798 Most government contracts you have to have at least three bids on. 2317.1122 2063 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2317.1122 (pause 1.09) 2318.2024 2064 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2318.2024 Okay. 2318.5422 2065 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2318.5422 (pause 0.43) 2318.9711 2066 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2318.9711 They had no bids 2320.1533 2067 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2320.1533 (pause 0.60) 2320.7550 2068 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2320.7550 because they say quote unquote Halliburton was the only company that could do that. 2323.6856 2069 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2323.6856 (pause 0.30) 2323.9830 2070 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2323.9830 Who did you ask? 2324.8466 2071 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2324.8466 (pause 1.67) 2326.5214 2072 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2326.5214 Nobody. 2326.9886 2073 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2326.9886 (pause 0.25) 2327.2363 2074 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2327.2363 And nobody said a word. 2328.8220 2075 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2328.8220 (pause 0.88) 2329.6998 2076 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2329.6998 It went through 2330.6201 2077 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2330.6201 (pause 0.96) 2331.5799 2078 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2331.5799 and Halliburton to this day still does some of the work for 2335.2609 2079 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2335.2609 (pause 0.27) 2335.5299 2080 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2335.5299 the Afgh- Afghans. 2336.8537 2081 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2338.9107 Mm. 2339.3000 2082 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2339.9230 And now they're talking about, you know, well Trump's doing so and so. It's like 2342.2132 2083 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2342.2132 (pause 0.49) 2342.7050 2084 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2342.7050 the powers that be will turn a 2344.5284 2085 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2344.5284 (pause 0.34) 2344.8682 2086 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2344.8682 a blind eye to that. 2345.8734 2087 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2345.8734 (pause 1.34) 2347.2114 2088 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2347.2114 You know. 2347.5865 2089 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2347.5865 (pause 0.50) 2348.0821 2090 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2348.0821 Because the people who are there- 2349.5020 2091 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2349.5020 (pause 1.59) 2351.0877 2092 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2351.0877 One of the things there was a sobering conversation I had with one of my patients 2354.3935 2093 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2354.3935 (pause 0.17) 2354.5676 2094 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2354.5676 who was a 2355.4029 2095 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2355.4029 (pause 0.70) 2356.1037 2096 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2356.1037 lobbyist. 2356.7691 2097 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2356.7691 (pause 0.94) 2357.7106 2098 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2357.7106 And he was a lobbyist for a tobacco company. 2359.7946 2099 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2359.7946 (pause 0.26) 2360.0537 2100 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2360.0537 And this was when I first started 2361.9621 2101 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2361.9621 (pause 0.52) 2362.4860 2102 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2362.4860 practicing about a good 2364.2840 2103 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2364.2840 (pause 0.57) 2364.8574 2104 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2364.8574 fifteen, sixteen years ago. 2366.2803 2105 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2366.2803 (pause 1.51) 2367.7922 2106 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2367.7922 And he said, 2368.5355 2107 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2368.5355 (pause 0.53) 2369.0664 2108 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2369.0664 he asked me he said well who do you- he said who's your political party? 2371.8697 2109 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2371.8697 (pause 0.50) 2372.3723 2110 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2372.3723 We got to talking about politics. 2373.4500 2111 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2373.4500 (pause 0.79) 2374.2382 2112 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2374.2382 And I was like well I'm a democrat. 2375.5124 2113 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2375.5124 (pause 0.36) 2375.8734 2114 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2375.8734 You know. 2376.2345 2115 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2376.2345 (pause 0.26) 2376.4964 2116 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2376.4964 And, uh, 2377.4166 2117 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2377.4166 (pause 0.42) 2377.8343 2118 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2377.8343 he said well let me give you some advice. 2379.2926 2119 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2379.2926 (pause 1.14) 2380.4293 2120 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2380.4293 He said I'm not here to 2381.2363 2121 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2381.2363 (pause 0.64) 2381.8805 2122 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2381.8805 kind of bust your bubble but I'm just gonna let you know how things work 2384.6555 2123 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2384.6555 (pause 0.96) 2385.6153 2124 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2385.6153 in DC. 2386.1320 2125 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2386.1320 (pause 1.01) 2387.1443 2126 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2387.1443 He said in my office- and he was telling me he worked for a c- tobacco company- 2390.5564 2127 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2390.5564 (pause 0.13) 2390.6909 2128 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2390.6909 he said in my office I have two packages. 2392.6913 2129 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2392.6913 (pause 0.81) 2393.5053 2130 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2393.5053 He said and I- I- and- 2394.7725 2131 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2394.7725 (pause 0.29) 2395.0627 2132 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2395.0627 I said well how much as a lobbyist do you make? 2397.0802 2133 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2397.0802 (pause 0.89) 2397.9692 2134 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2397.9692 He says as a lobbyist I'm making about three fifty and I'm not the- 2400.6804 2135 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2400.6804 (pause 0.47) 2401.1547 2136 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2401.1547 a year and I'm not the highest paid one. 2402.7050 2137 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2402.7050 (pause 0.74) 2403.4454 2138 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2403.4454 He said I'm in the middle. 2404.4152 2139 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2404.4152 (pause 1.39) 2405.8097 2140 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2405.8097 But 2406.0929 2141 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2406.0929 (pause 1.09) 2407.1830 2142 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2407.1830 he said what happens is I have two packages in my office. 2410.0258 2143 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2410.0258 (pause 0.96) 2410.9815 2144 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2410.9815 So 2411.4487 2145 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2411.4487 (pause 1.19) 2412.6380 2146 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2412.6380 you're a new senator. 2413.6290 2147 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2413.6290 (pause 0.83) 2414.4572 2148 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2414.4572 You come up to Capitol Hill. 2415.9825 2149 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2415.9825 (pause 1.09) 2417.0735 2150 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2417.0735 You a democrat. I go get the democratic package. 2419.2043 2151 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2419.2043 (pause 0.70) 2419.9051 2152 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2419.9051 I go up there, 2420.5422 2153 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2420.5422 (pause 0.32) 2420.8578 2154 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2420.8578 introduce myself to you because you're young. You're just on the committee. 2424.6026 2155 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2424.6026 (pause 0.41) 2425.0131 2156 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2425.0131 You don't really have any power yet. 2426.1529 2157 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2426.1529 (pause 1.08) 2427.2330 2158 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2427.2330 So I tell you that, you know, I'm here 2429.2222 2159 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2429.2222 (pause 0.45) 2429.6752 2160 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2429.6752 to 2430.1283 2161 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2430.1283 (pause 0.27) 2430.3973 2162 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2430.3973 represent the interest that my company has blah blah blah. 2433.1834 2163 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2433.1834 (pause 0.60) 2433.7851 2164 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2433.7851 And I'm gonna contribute to your 2436.1991 2165 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2436.1991 (pause 0.72) 2436.9211 2166 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2436.9211 campaign 2437.4379 2167 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2437.4379 (pause 0.55) 2437.9830 2168 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2437.9830 for re-election. 2438.6130 2169 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2438.6130 (pause 0.34) 2438.9569 2170 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2438.9569 This is the first day you get in there they start thinking about okay, the next election. 2442.9707 2171 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2442.9707 (pause 0.18) 2443.1476 2172 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2443.1476 So that I can keep my gravy train going here. 2445.2111 2173 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2445.2111 (pause 1.13) 2446.3444 2174 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2446.3444 So he says first I get your attention when I give you the money for your campaign. 2450.9032 2175 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2450.9032 (pause 1.48) 2452.3798 2176 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2452.3798 Then 2452.8965 2177 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2452.8965 (pause 0.24) 2453.1372 2178 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2453.1372 when I come back and you're the head of it, 2455.1122 2179 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2455.1122 (pause 1.16) 2456.2732 2180 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2456.2732 okay, I've gone from getting your attention to getting your soul. 2458.9178 2181 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2458.9178 (pause 2.53) 2461.4520 2182 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2461.4520 Because now 2462.2520 2183 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2462.2520 (pause 0.95) 2463.2047 2184 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2463.2047 in order for you to get this check that I got, 2464.9815 2185 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2464.9815 (pause 0.55) 2465.5266 2186 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2465.5266 anything that I wi- 2466.3619 2187 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2466.3619 (pause 0.27) 2466.6309 2188 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2466.6309 I feel strongly about you're gonna vote for. 2468.6484 2189 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2468.6484 (pause 1.73) 2470.3798 2190 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2470.3798 And he said it works regardless if- if you don't get elected and a republican gets elected then I go get my repub- 2475.0985 2191 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2475.0985 (pause 0.22) 2475.3179 2192 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2475.3179 republican package and I'll come back and do that. 2477.5832 2193 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2477.5832 (pause 1.41) 2478.9919 2194 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2478.9919 And it was- 2479.3883 2195 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2479.3883 (pause 0.59) 2479.9759 2196 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2479.9759 I was disillusioned by it. 2481.2572 2197 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2481.2572 (pause 1.77) 2483.0240 2198 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2483.0240 Because it's like okay well 2484.4822 2199 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2484.4822 (pause 0.21) 2484.6875 2200 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2484.6875 here you think- 2485.6078 2201 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2485.6078 (pause 0.62) 2486.2236 2202 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2486.2236 and I think that the people who do come here some of them- probably a majority of them come in here with the right 2490.6521 2203 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2490.6521 (pause 0.16) 2490.8079 2204 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2490.8079 mindset of wanting to do something right. 2492.7262 2205 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2492.7262 (pause 1.80) 2494.5284 2206 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2494.5284 But after they get here- 2495.8310 2207 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2495.8310 (pause 0.76) 2496.5955 2208 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2496.5955 So as a black- so getting back to your question, 2498.9315 2209 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2498.9315 (pause 0.33) 2499.2613 2210 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2499.2613 so as a black 2500.0117 2211 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2500.0117 (pause 0.42) 2500.4293 2212 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2500.4293 person- as a people- 2501.9725 2213 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2501.9725 (pause 0.64) 2502.6167 2214 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2502.6167 how do you compete with that? 2503.7069 2215 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2503.7069 (pause 1.92) 2505.6294 2216 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2505.6294 You know. 2506.0329 2217 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2506.0329 (pause 0.22) 2506.2524 2218 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2506.2524 Yeah, 2506.7479 2219 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2506.7479 (pause 0.28) 2507.0310 2220 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2507.0310 they put us in charge of DC. 2508.5247 2221 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2508.5247 (pause 0.31) 2508.8362 2222 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2508.8362 They said you could have a mayor 2509.9405 2223 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2509.9405 (pause 0.45) 2510.3935 2224 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2510.3935 and when Walter Washington got elected as the first mayor of DC everybody was happy. 2514.8928 2225 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2515.6998 2516.2378 2226 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2516.0508 But the question was okay, 2517.7498 2227 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2518.6488 he was the overseer. 2519.9513 2228 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2519.9513 (pause 1.51) 2521.4591 2229 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2521.4591 Congress was the master. 2522.6271 2230 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2522.6271 (pause 1.14) 2523.7710 2231 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2523.7710 And 2524.2311 2232 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2524.2311 (pause 0.50) 2524.7266 2233 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2524.7266 we don't care what you wanted to do, 2526.5318 2234 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2526.5318 (pause 0.30) 2526.8291 2235 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2526.8291 you had to go 2527.6432 2236 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2527.6432 (pause 0.84) 2528.4785 2237 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2528.4785 talk to- as my my uncle you used to say, you got to go ask Mr. Charlie first. 2531.7902 2238 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2531.7902 (pause 0.47) 2532.2557 2239 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2532.2557 And if Mr. Charlie say you can do it 2533.8626 2240 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2533.8626 (pause 0.91) 2534.7758 2241 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2534.7758 then you can do it 2535.5188 2242 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2535.5188 (pause 0.20) 2535.7144 2243 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2535.7144 on a limited basis. 2536.6771 2244 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2536.6771 (pause 0.33) 2537.0027 2245 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2537.0027 Now what's gonna change 2538.3123 2246 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2538.3123 (pause 0.33) 2538.6380 2247 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2538.6380 and mark my words 2539.7210 2248 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2539.7210 (pause 0.08) 2539.7989 2249 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2539.7989 because of the demographics that are changing in the city 2542.6983 2250 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2542.6983 (pause 1.52) 2544.2203 2251 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2544.2203 that whole 2545.0485 2252 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2545.0485 (pause 0.54) 2545.5865 2253 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2545.5865 power structure 2546.5988 2254 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2546.5988 (pause 0.58) 2547.1834 2255 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2547.1834 is gonna change. 2548.2736 2256 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2548.2736 (pause 0.96) 2549.2363 2257 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2549.2363 And 2549.7035 2258 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2549.7035 (pause 0.21) 2549.9088 2259 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2549.9088 they may need a /mite/- a white mayor 2552.3369 2260 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2552.3369 (pause 0.61) 2552.9498 2261 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2552.9498 in order to get 2553.7427 2262 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2553.7427 (pause 0.81) 2554.5497 2263 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2554.5497 the blanket 2555.3071 2264 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2555.3071 (pause 0.40) 2555.7035 2265 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2555.7035 carte blanche to do whatever they want to, 2557.5653 2266 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2557.5653 (pause 0.57) 2558.1316 2267 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2558.1316 or they could get a- a black mayor who's sympathetic to 2561.6044 2268 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2561.6044 (pause 0.45) 2562.0575 2269 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2562.0575 issues that the w- the white 2563.6219 2270 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2563.6219 (pause 0.46) 2564.0821 2271 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2564.0821 residents have, 2565.1014 2272 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2565.7002 [Hm.] 2566.0612 2273 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2565.9409 [you] know, 2566.3019 2274 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2567.5620 but the 2568.3548 2275 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2568.3548 (pause 0.30) 2568.6592 2276 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2568.6592 amount of power that's gonna be 2570.4502 2277 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2570.4502 (pause 0.70) 2571.1480 2278 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2571.1480 there is gonna change. 2572.3798 2279 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2572.3798 (pause 0.95) 2573.3284 2280 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2573.3284 Cause right now you can't- 2574.0677 2281 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2574.0677 (pause 0.27) 2574.3406 2282 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2574.3406 I mean you've got, 2575.0131 2283 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2575.0131 (pause 0.37) 2575.3812 2284 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2575.3812 you know, 2575.7989 2285 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2575.7989 (pause 0.47) 2576.2661 2286 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2576.2661 people who are going, uh, 2577.8418 2287 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2577.8418 (pause 0.42) 2578.2594 2288 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2578.2594 we elect somebody to, 2579.7956 2289 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2579.7956 (pause 0.21) 2580.0009 2290 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2580.0009 um, 2580.6734 2291 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2580.6734 (pause 0.92) 2581.5936 2292 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2581.5936 the House, 2582.0891 2293 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2582.0891 (pause 0.40) 2582.4856 2294 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2582.4856 you know, uh, 2583.2005 2295 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2583.2005 (pause 0.29) 2583.4878 2296 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2583.4878 or 2583.7285 2297 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2583.7285 (pause 0.37) 2584.0966 2298 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2584.0966 the Senate 2584.5214 2299 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2584.5214 (pause 1.71) 2586.2274 2300 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2586.2274 who can't vote. 2586.9848 2301 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2587.5865 2587.8909 2302 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2588.1953 Okay so 2589.1722 2303 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2589.1722 (pause 1.02) 2590.1957 2304 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2590.1957 why is she there? 2590.9532 2305 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2590.9532 (pause 1.95) 2592.9070 2306 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2592.9070 [That makes no sense.] 2593.7706 2307 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2592.9070 [] 2593.5582 2308 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2594.2307 You right. 2594.7262 2309 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2594.7262 (pause 1.03) 2595.7568 2310 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2595.7568 Let me aks you a question. You was talking about- this is a another history question. 2599.0273 2311 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2599.2751 Hm. 2599.4591 2312 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2599.4874 How does it feel like when you know that 2601.0873 2313 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2601.0873 (pause 0.73) 2601.8135 2314 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2601.8135 that 2602.0683 2315 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2602.0683 (pause 0.50) 2602.5638 2316 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2602.5638 about you- about you studying history now you know that, 2604.7725 2317 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2604.7725 (pause 1.27) 2606.0396 2318 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2606.0396 that they haven't updated the books at school and stuff, 2608.5355 2319 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2608.5355 (pause 0.19) 2608.7266 2320 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2608.7266 you know, at the schools and educational system and now, you know, that your sons and daughters are gonna get 2612.7900 2321 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2612.7900 (pause 0.59) 2613.3816 2322 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2613.3816 taught lies in a [sense.] How do you 2615.4275 2323 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2614.3656 [Mm-hm.] 2614.7125 2324 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2615.7248 combat that? 2616.4044 2325 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2616.4044 (pause 0.57) 2616.9777 2326 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2616.9777 [Or how do] you feel about that? 2618.0396 2327 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2617.0061 [But the-] 2617.3246 2328 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2618.0891 Oh I mean it's 2619.1935 2329 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2619.1935 (pause 0.32) 2619.5161 2330 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2619.5161 it's up to 2620.6134 2331 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2620.6134 (pause 0.83) 2621.4416 2332 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2621.4416 parents 2622.0079 2333 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2622.0079 (pause 0.22) 2622.2274 2334 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2622.2274 and I've always said this. 2623.4591 2335 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2623.4591 (pause 0.15) 2623.6078 2336 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2623.6078 You know, when my kids were- my kids are grown now 2625.4500 2337 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2625.4500 (pause 0.51) 2625.9550 2338 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2625.9550 um, but 2627.0735 2339 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2627.0735 (pause 0.16) 2627.2363 2340 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2627.2363 it's up to parents 2628.8786 2341 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2628.8786 (pause 0.67) 2629.5511 2342 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2629.5511 to enlighten your kids, 2631.2359 2343 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2631.2359 (pause 0.38) 2631.6153 2344 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2631.6153 you know. And when you're helping them with their homework and 2634.4822 2345 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2634.4822 (pause 0.56) 2635.0415 2346 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2635.0415 because they don't wanna vilify the history of the United States 2638.6700 2347 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2638.6700 (pause 0.45) 2639.1160 2348 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2639.1160 about slavery. 2640.0479 2349 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2640.0479 (pause 0.69) 2640.7371 2350 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2640.7371 They'll talk all day about the Holocaust and how the Germans killed the Jews. 2644.1712 2351 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2644.1712 (pause 0.59) 2644.7620 2352 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2644.7620 And the Jews will talk about the six million people that got killed during World War Two, 2648.7758 2353 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2648.7758 (pause 0.56) 2649.3392 2354 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2649.3392 how about we've lost more than that. We've been here since the fourteen hundreds. 2652.5884 2355 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2652.6026 2652.9070 2356 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2652.8645 We are beyond six million. 2654.2449 2357 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2654.7021 And they're still killing us. 2655.6082 2358 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2655.5728 Right, [so this Holocaust] is still yeah, it's [still] going [on.] 2658.9424 2359 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2655.9550 [They just found a different way of killing us.] 2657.3779 2360 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2657.3779 (pause 0.70) 2658.0787 2361 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2658.0787 [Yeah.] 2658.3123 2362 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2658.3123 (pause 0.45) 2658.7654 2363 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2658.7654 [So], you know. 2659.5653 2364 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2660.4289 Those are the things that 2661.6082 2365 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2661.6082 (pause 0.44) 2662.0471 2366 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2662.0471 parents need to be- and that's like I said that's why that 2665.1972 2367 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2665.1972 (pause 0.27) 2665.4662 2368 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2665.4662 the museum is important, 2666.7900 2369 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2666.7900 (pause 0.30) 2667.0873 2370 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2667.0873 you know. If the p- if parents take their time 2669.4699 2371 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2669.4699 (pause 0.93) 2670.4044 2372 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2670.4044 to enlighten their kids 2671.9263 2373 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2671.9263 (pause 0.20) 2672.1245 2374 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2672.1245 that you know it's not like you said. It's not just video games and going to the club. 2676.3760 2375 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2676.3760 (pause 0.67) 2677.0485 2376 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2677.0485 You gotta pay attention 2678.5068 2377 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2678.5068 (pause 0.41) 2678.9144 2378 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2678.9144 about what's going on 2680.3585 2379 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2680.3585 (pause 0.41) 2680.7691 2380 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2680.7691 around here. 2681.4062 2381 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2681.4062 (pause 0.21) 2681.6115 2382 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2681.6115 And the same thing with, 2682.8220 2383 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2682.8220 (pause 1.90) 2684.7233 2384 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2684.7233 you know, I'm all for wanting to be yourself and all this o- other kind of stuff 2688.0221 2385 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2688.0221 (pause 0.68) 2688.7017 2386 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2688.7017 but 2689.1052 2387 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2689.1052 (pause 0.38) 2689.4874 2388 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2689.4874 if you've got dreads 2690.9882 2389 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2690.9882 (pause 0.97) 2691.9621 2390 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2691.9621 and you- 2692.3585 2391 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2692.3585 (pause 0.32) 2692.6771 2392 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2692.6771 especially one that you're not taking care of, 2694.4893 2393 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2694.4893 (pause 0.69) 2695.1760 2394 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2695.1760 you know, 2695.4733 2395 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2695.4733 (pause 0.43) 2695.9051 2396 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2695.9051 and you gonna go 2697.0944 2397 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2697.0944 (pause 0.61) 2697.7073 2398 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2697.7073 to an interview 2698.6629 2399 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2698.6629 (pause 0.18) 2698.8470 2400 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2698.8470 and you want a job working in a bank, 2700.7441 2401 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2700.7441 (pause 0.92) 2701.6644 2402 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2701.6644 okay. 2702.1104 2403 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2702.1104 (pause 0.73) 2702.8366 2404 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2702.8366 You gotta look around and see, okay, hm. 2705.0806 2405 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2705.0806 (pause 2.02) 2707.0981 2406 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2707.0981 Who- what is the- what is the image of this company 2709.8064 2407 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2709.8064 (pause 0.37) 2710.1745 2408 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2710.1745 and do I represent the image of this company? 2712.8008 2409 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2713.1406 Mm-hm. 2713.7352 2410 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2713.9334 And if I don't 2714.8324 2411 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2714.8324 (pause 1.71) 2716.5426 2412 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2716.5426 get in to there f- 2717.4770 2413 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2717.4770 (pause 0.32) 2717.7956 2414 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2717.7956 get into it first 2718.8786 2415 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2718.8786 (pause 0.31) 2719.1901 2416 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2719.1901 then make a change, 2720.2590 2417 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2720.2590 (pause 0.12) 2720.3794 2418 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2720.3794 see if you can push change. 2721.7427 2419 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2721.7427 (pause 0.57) 2722.3090 2420 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2722.3090 You know, go in 2723.3921 2421 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2723.3921 (pause 0.92) 2724.3123 2422 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2724.3123 like the rest of the people are. 2726.0962 2423 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2726.0962 (pause 0.28) 2726.3723 2424 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2726.3723 Wear the good suit, good haircut, you know, 2728.3798 2425 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2728.3798 (pause 0.64) 2729.0169 2426 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2729.0169 and then if 2729.7672 2427 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2729.7672 (pause 0.34) 2730.1070 2428 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2730.1070 you wanna change, once you get there and you understand what's around there 2733.8205 2429 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2733.8205 (pause 0.41) 2734.2311 2430 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2734.2311 then move to change. 2735.7319 2431 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2735.7319 (pause 0.90) 2736.6309 2432 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2736.6309 You know, 2737.0344 2433 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2737.0344 (pause 0.82) 2737.8555 2434 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2737.8555 but 2738.1216 2435 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2738.1216 (pause 0.15) 2738.2703 2436 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2738.2703 you know, you go in there and then you don't get the job then it's like oh the white man tryna put me down. 2742.0648 2437 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2742.0648 (pause 0.10) 2742.1637 2438 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2742.1637 No the white man not tryna put you down. You're putting yourself down because you're not paying attention. 2745.5445 2439 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2746.7054 [Mm-hm.] 2747.3991 2440 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2746.8399 [You know.] 2747.2009 2441 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2747.9159 Now if you got your own business, 2749.0910 2442 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2749.0910 (pause 0.33) 2749.4237 2443 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2749.4237 /pf/, 2749.6078 2444 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2749.6078 (pause 0.28) 2749.8839 2445 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2749.8839 no problem, 2750.3935 2446 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2750.3935 (pause 0.57) 2750.9640 2447 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2750.9640 you know. 2751.2967 2448 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2751.2967 (pause 0.35) 2751.6436 2449 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2751.6436 But you still have to get other people to 2753.7814 2450 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2753.7814 (pause 0.45) 2754.2274 2451 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2754.2274 to work with [you], buy stuff from you 2756.2187 2452 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2754.9424 [/Hm./] 2755.1760 2453 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2756.9245 and if 2757.6506 2454 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2757.6506 (pause 0.44) 2758.0895 2455 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2758.0895 your people or 2759.6328 2456 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2759.6328 (pause 0.61) 2760.2415 2457 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2760.2415 white people or whoever your- are your customers 2762.5917 2458 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2762.5917 (pause 0.75) 2763.3463 2459 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2763.3463 and they don't share 2764.7125 2460 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2764.7125 (pause 0.47) 2765.1797 2461 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2765.1797 your values 2766.1495 2462 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2766.1495 (pause 0.96) 2767.1052 2463 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2767.1052 then, 2767.6644 2464 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2768.1245 Mm-hm. 2768.9245 2465 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2768.9357 you know. 2769.4170 2466 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2769.4170 (pause 0.71) 2770.1320 2467 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2770.1320 You- 2770.5497 2468 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2770.5497 (pause 0.59) 2771.1372 2469 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2771.1372 you got a problem. 2771.6778 2470 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2771.6778 (pause 0.22) 2771.9017 2471 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2771.9017 2772.7795 2472 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2772.7795 (pause 0.56) 2773.3388 2473 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2773.3388 So. 2773.8201 2474 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2775.2967 Who was your, um, 2775.9621 2475 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2775.9621 (pause 0.35) 2776.3161 2476 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2776.3161 who's your favorite teacher? 2777.2717 2477 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2778.2966 2778.4425 2478 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2778.4425 (pause 0.30) 2778.7441 2479 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2778.7441 My favorite teacher- I had two teach- I had two teachers that were. 2782.0188 2480 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2782.0188 (pause 0.54) 2782.5568 2481 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2782.5568 I had my, um, 2784.0433 2482 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2784.0433 (pause 0.55) 2784.5884 2483 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2784.5884 one of my professors in- who happened to be my f- uh, fraternity 2788.9036 2484 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2788.9036 (pause 0.72) 2789.6257 2485 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2789.6257 advisor, 2790.3194 2486 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2790.3194 (pause 1.19) 2791.5087 2487 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2791.5087 um, /RD-NAME-4/. 2792.8749 2488 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2792.8749 (pause 0.37) 2793.2401 2489 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2793.2401 He was from Pittsburgh. 2794.1179 2490 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2794.1179 (pause 1.24) 2795.3567 2491 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2795.3567 And, uh, 2796.1212 2492 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2796.1212 (pause 0.13) 2796.2557 2493 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2796.2557 he taught me a lot of history about 2798.0608 2494 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2798.0608 (pause 0.46) 2798.5180 2495 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2798.5180 the 2799.0206 2496 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2799.0206 (pause 1.08) 2800.0966 2497 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2800.0966 growth of you know black 2802.1778 2498 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2802.1778 (pause 0.38) 2802.5530 2499 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2802.5530 cultural 2803.2751 2500 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2803.2751 (pause 0.13) 2803.4096 2501 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2803.4096 um, expansion in Pittsburgh which 2805.4949 2502 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2805.4949 (pause 0.23) 2805.7214 2503 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2805.7214 I didn't- it was just similar to DC. 2807.2434 2504 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2807.2434 (pause 0.32) 2807.5620 2505 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2807.5620 Which probably a lot of cities they had their places where their, 2809.9830 2506 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2809.9830 (pause 0.81) 2810.7970 2507 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2810.7970 um, restaurants, 2812.3302 2508 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2812.3302 (pause 0.43) 2812.7620 2509 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2812.7620 tailors, 2813.6469 2510 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2813.6469 (pause 0.66) 2814.3052 2511 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2814.3052 you know um, 2815.4520 2512 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2815.4520 (pause 1.43) 2816.8820 2513 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2816.8820 all kind of, you know, different businesses that white people used to come down into 2820.9990 2514 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2820.9990 (pause 0.90) 2821.8980 2515 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2821.8980 their 2822.3157 2516 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2822.3157 (pause 0.61) 2822.9286 2517 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2822.9286 businesses because they knew that the quality of workmanship 2825.9725 2518 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2825.9725 (pause 0.91) 2826.8786 2519 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2826.8786 was 2827.3246 2520 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2827.3246 (pause 0.59) 2827.9192 2521 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2827.9192 exceptional. 2828.5534 2522 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2828.5534 (pause 0.68) 2829.2330 2523 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2829.2330 Same thing what my mom was telling me about U Street 2831.6002 2524 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2831.6002 (pause 0.17) 2831.7672 2525 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2831.7672 when they used to have all black businesses down there 2834.0962 2526 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2834.0962 (pause 0.49) 2834.5847 2527 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2834.5847 white people used to go down there to get, you know 2836.5355 2528 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2836.5355 (pause 0.76) 2837.3000 2529 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2837.3000 their stuff, you know, taken care of, laundry, 2839.9192 2530 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2839.9192 (pause 0.38) 2840.3015 2531 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2840.3015 tailors, 2841.0306 2532 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2841.0306 (pause 0.46) 2841.4878 2533 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2841.4878 you know a lot of stuff that was down there. 2842.8895 2534 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2842.8895 (pause 0.21) 2843.1018 2535 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2843.1018 Because, uh, 2843.9938 2536 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2843.9938 (pause 0.32) 2844.3123 2537 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2844.3123 workmanship was exceptional. 2845.8004 2538 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2845.8004 (pause 0.98) 2846.7829 2539 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2846.7829 But 2847.1588 2540 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2847.1588 (pause 0.91) 2848.0683 2541 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2848.0683 what happened which 2850.0362 2542 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2850.0362 (pause 0.48) 2850.5176 2543 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2850.5176 which Du Bois had 2852.0891 2544 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2852.0891 (pause 1.02) 2853.1056 2545 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2853.1056 had kind of saw coming 2854.8824 2546 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2854.8824 (pause 1.01) 2855.8876 2547 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2855.8876 is that 2856.4114 2548 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2856.4114 (pause 0.57) 2856.9848 2549 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2856.9848 integration would be the 2858.2874 2550 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2858.2874 (pause 0.46) 2858.7445 2551 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2858.7445 the 2859.0135 2552 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2859.0135 (pause 0.14) 2859.1551 2553 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2859.1551 downfall 2860.0612 2554 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2860.0612 (pause 0.24) 2860.3019 2555 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2860.3019 of us as a people. 2861.4079 2556 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2861.4079 (pause 0.91) 2862.3194 2557 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2862.3194 And it was. 2862.8999 2558 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2862.8999 (pause 1.15) 2864.0537 2559 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2864.0537 Because when 2865.1510 2560 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2865.1510 (pause 0.27) 2865.4241 2561 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2865.4241 we had our own schools, 2866.8328 2562 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2866.8328 (pause 0.77) 2867.6044 2563 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2867.6044 we had to be 2868.5884 2564 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2868.5884 (pause 0.41) 2868.9990 2565 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2868.9990 better than 2869.5936 2566 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2869.5936 (pause 0.79) 2870.3865 2567 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2870.3865 anybody. 2870.9103 2568 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2870.9103 (pause 0.61) 2871.5232 2569 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2871.5232 So the quality of education was, 2873.6257 2570 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2873.6257 (pause 0.21) 2873.8310 2571 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2873.8310 you know, it had a 2874.6946 2572 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2874.6946 (pause 0.23) 2874.9211 2573 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2874.9211 extra high standard cause they 2876.4643 2574 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2876.4643 (pause 0.20) 2876.6625 2575 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2876.6625 we had to do a hundred fifty 2878.0885 2576 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2878.0885 (pause 0.30) 2878.3869 2577 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2878.3869 plus. 2878.8682 2578 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2878.8682 (pause 0.86) 2879.7319 2579 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2879.7319 We had to be a hundred and fifty percent better 2881.3883 2580 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2881.3883 (pause 0.52) 2881.9051 2581 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2881.9051 than the average person coming out of a white school. 2884.2382 2582 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2884.2382 (pause 0.77) 2885.0098 2583 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2885.0098 The teachers we had were exceptional. 2886.8999 2584 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2886.8999 (pause 0.23) 2887.1264 2585 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2887.1264 The, 2887.6432 2586 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2887.6432 (pause 0.62) 2888.2661 2587 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2888.2661 you know, the edu- like I said the education was exceptional. 2890.5495 2588 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2890.5495 (pause 0.65) 2891.2009 2589 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2891.2009 But once we got to the point as a people that integration hit, 2894.7475 2590 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2894.7475 (pause 0.96) 2895.7073 2591 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2895.7073 we were like, oh okay we've arrived 2897.2363 2592 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2897.2363 (pause 0.98) 2898.2132 2593 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2898.2132 so we don't have to worry about, 2899.6573 2594 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2899.6573 (pause 0.67) 2900.3298 2595 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2900.3298 you know, just going to Howard. We can go to American University, 2903.4062 2596 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2903.4062 (pause 0.35) 2903.7602 2597 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2903.7602 and that really didn't really start happening until like s- nineteen seventy and on where we were 2908.4010 2598 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2908.4010 (pause 0.61) 2909.0098 2599 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2909.0098 able to go to these schools. 2910.2840 2600 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2910.2840 (pause 0.50) 2910.7866 2601 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2910.7866 And we turned out backs on our institutions 2913.2572 2602 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2913.2572 (pause 0.60) 2913.8559 2603 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2913.8559 and the professors who were teaching at our schools, the exceptional professors, 2917.3954 2604 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2917.3954 (pause 0.25) 2917.6502 2605 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2917.6502 they went to white schools. 2918.8324 2606 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2918.8324 (pause 1.33) 2920.1603 2607 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2920.1603 Cause the white schools were getting 2921.8310 2608 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2921.8310 (pause 0.20) 2922.0292 2609 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2922.0292 funding 2922.7158 2610 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2922.7158 (pause 0.55) 2923.2609 2611 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2923.2609 if they had a diverse 2924.4785 2612 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2924.4785 (pause 0.22) 2924.6979 2613 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2924.6979 faculty. 2925.2076 2614 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2925.2076 (pause 1.07) 2926.2736 2615 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2926.2736 So our good professors, a number of them went to white schools. 2929.8131 2616 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2929.8131 (pause 0.85) 2930.6625 2617 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2930.6625 Then the s- our schools started hiring professors that weren't up to the standard that they used to be because they couldn't compete with white institutions. 2938.1816 2618 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2939.3213 Mm. 2939.9799 2619 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2940.0079 And you can fast forward the- 2941.4025 2620 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2941.4025 (pause 0.24) 2941.6432 2621 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2941.6432 the quality of education suffered. 2944.0046 2622 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2944.0046 (pause 1.08) 2945.0806 2623 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2945.0806 It's kind of 2946.0858 2624 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2946.0858 (pause 0.24) 2946.3265 2625 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2946.3265 stabilizing now. And you find a lot of white people are coming to black schools because 2951.1514 2626 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2951.1514 (pause 0.29) 2951.4416 2627 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2951.4416 from an economic standpoint it's cheaper. 2953.3600 2628 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2956.1674 Makes sense. 2956.9285 2629 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2956.8611 Mm-hm. 2957.2151 2630 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2958.0221 What do you know about, um, Marcus Garvey? 2959.6573 2631 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2960.8324 Marcus Garvey 2961.9338 2632 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2961.9338 (pause 0.24) 2962.1745 2633 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2962.1745 and his 2962.9673 2634 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2962.9673 (pause 0.39) 2963.3567 2635 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2963.3567 Back to Africa movement 2964.5955 2636 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2964.5955 (pause 0.20) 2964.7937 2637 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2964.7937 [was] uh, 2966.5847 2638 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 2965.9263 [] 2966.2378 2639 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2967.6719 he- 2968.1745 2640 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2968.1745 (pause 2.79) 2970.9636 2641 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2970.9636 I think that he- 2972.0184 2642 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2972.0184 (pause 1.12) 2973.1410 2643 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2973.1410 he looked at it from the stand- I don't think it was very realistic. 2976.0504 2644 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2976.0504 (pause 0.38) 2976.4327 2645 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2976.4327 I thought that he probably thought that everybody was gonna- when he came up with this 2979.6436 2646 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2979.6436 (pause 0.91) 2980.5497 2647 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2980.5497 criticism of the status quo of the United States as it was 2984.4714 2648 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2984.4714 (pause 0.33) 2984.7970 2649 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2984.7970 and that we needed to 2986.3503 2650 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2986.3503 (pause 1.08) 2987.4345 2651 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2987.4345 leave and find a place for ourselves. 2989.7210 2652 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2989.7210 (pause 2.21) 2991.9338 2653 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2991.9338 Um, 2992.8824 2654 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2992.8824 (pause 0.69) 2993.5761 2655 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2993.5761 it probably appealed to some people. 2995.2847 2656 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2995.2847 (pause 1.60) 2996.8891 2657 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2996.8891 I think the vast majority of 2998.9532 2658 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2998.9532 (pause 0.33) 2999.2788 2659 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 2999.2788 what was, um, 3000.7300 2660 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3000.7300 (pause 2.78) 3003.5091 2661 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3003.5091 his point of view wasn't shared by everybody because 3006.4044 2662 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3006.4044 (pause 0.45) 3006.8574 2663 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3006.8574 this is our home. 3007.7140 2664 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3007.7140 (pause 0.80) 3008.5139 2665 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3008.5139 And that was a theme that a lot of people were saying. It's like this is our home. 3012.9211 2666 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3012.9211 (pause 0.62) 3013.5370 2667 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3013.5370 Why should we leave it? 3014.5634 2668 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3014.5634 (pause 2.92) 3017.4841 2669 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3017.4841 You know? 3017.9088 2670 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3017.9088 (pause 0.36) 3018.2699 2671 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3018.2699 And 3018.9565 2672 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3018.9565 (pause 1.65) 3020.6059 2673 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3020.6059 I mean Booker T. Washington, you listen to him, 3023.1372 2674 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3023.1372 (pause 0.89) 3024.0292 2675 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3024.0292 um, 3024.7725 2676 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3024.7725 (pause 1.53) 3026.3015 2677 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3026.3015 he- 3027.0731 2678 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3027.0731 (pause 0.54) 3027.6153 2679 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3027.6153 he was controversial but he was a 3029.5336 2680 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3029.5336 (pause 0.19) 3029.7248 2681 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3029.7248 brilliant person. 3030.6380 2682 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3030.6380 (pause 0.38) 3031.0202 2683 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3031.0202 He was controversial from the standpoint of 3033.5020 2684 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3033.5020 (pause 1.09) 3034.5921 2685 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3034.5921 understanding you're taking people who are former slaves 3037.8272 2686 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3037.8272 (pause 1.10) 3038.9315 2687 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3038.9315 and you're 3039.5232 2688 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3039.5232 (pause 0.45) 3039.9763 2689 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3039.9763 putting them 3040.9815 2690 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3040.9815 (pause 0.16) 3041.1443 2691 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3041.1443 you want to put them in 3042.6734 2692 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3042.6734 (pause 0.76) 3043.4379 2693 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3043.4379 the Senate, 3044.2915 2694 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3044.2915 (pause 0.16) 3044.4543 2695 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3044.4543 you want to put them in- 3046.0471 2696 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3046.0471 (pause 0.52) 3046.5638 2697 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3046.5638 a lot of these people then didn't even know how to take care of themselves 3048.8362 2698 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3048.8362 (pause 1.14) 3049.9759 2699 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3049.9759 and he was frowned upon because 3052.6913 2700 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3052.6913 (pause 1.12) 3053.8097 2701 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3053.8097 he was saying wait a minute, 3055.2043 2702 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3055.2043 (pause 0.16) 3055.3600 2703 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3055.3600 these things that you're saying, 3056.8254 2704 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3056.8254 (pause 0.35) 3057.1764 2705 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3057.1764 you know I'm not saying can't happen 3058.7974 2706 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3058.7974 (pause 0.55) 3059.3496 2707 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3059.3496 but we as a people are not there yet. 3061.0344 2708 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3061.0344 (pause 0.72) 3061.7564 2709 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3061.7564 You can't go from the plantation one day to the S- to the Congress the next day. 3065.3000 2710 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3066.5601 [Mm-hm.] 3067.1476 2711 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3066.8291 [You know,] 3067.1689 2712 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3067.4520 or from being, 3068.8224 2713 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3068.8224 (pause 0.25) 3069.0702 2714 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3069.0702 you know, on the plantation one day and going and opening your own business 3072.5955 2715 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3072.6309 3073.0273 2716 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3073.1618 with no 3073.9830 2717 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3073.9830 (pause 0.39) 3074.3723 2718 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3074.3723 idea of 3075.3846 2719 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3075.3846 (pause 0.71) 3076.0966 2720 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3076.0966 how to run a business, 3077.6186 2721 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3077.6186 (pause 0.26) 3077.8805 2722 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3077.8805 you know. 3078.2132 2723 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3078.2132 (pause 0.85) 3079.0627 2724 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3079.0627 So those are things that he wanted to instill in 3081.5091 2725 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3081.5091 (pause 0.19) 3081.7002 2726 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3081.7002 the people. I mean the biggest- one of the 3083.3567 2727 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3083.3567 (pause 0.23) 3083.5832 2728 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3083.5832 things that I learned 3084.5742 2729 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3084.5742 (pause 0.42) 3084.9990 2730 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3084.9990 in reading that 3085.7494 2731 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3085.7494 (pause 0.74) 3086.4926 2732 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3086.4926 is that 3087.2855 2733 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3087.2855 (pause 0.46) 3087.7427 2734 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3087.7427 3088.2170 2735 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3088.2170 (pause 0.35) 3088.5709 2736 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3088.5709 one of the things that they required for the students that came in there is that they brushed their teeth daily. 3093.4029 2737 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3094.8187 Hm. 3095.1018 2738 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3098.5493 You just kind of assume 3099.8509 2739 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3099.8509 (pause 0.38) 3100.2311 2740 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3100.2311 today I mean /don't/ you just kind of assume that that's like 3102.4397 2741 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3102.4397 (pause 0.23) 3102.6734 2742 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3102.6734 normal. 3103.0485 2743 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3103.0485 (pause 1.20) 3104.2490 2744 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3104.2490 It wasn't a part because they didn't have tooth brushes. 3106.1249 2745 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3107.3708 Mm. 3107.8664 2746 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3107.7035 You know. 3108.1849 2747 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3108.5742 Bathing 3109.2114 2748 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3109.2114 (pause 0.69) 3109.9051 2749 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3109.9051 daily, 3110.4997 2750 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3110.4997 (pause 0.33) 3110.8324 2751 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3110.8324 brushing your teeth, 3111.6294 2752 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3111.6294 (pause 0.64) 3112.2736 2753 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3112.2736 personal oral hygiene, 3113.3425 2754 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3113.3425 (pause 0.44) 3113.7814 2755 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3113.7814 that was like the first thing 3115.1264 2756 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3115.1264 (pause 0.40) 3115.5299 2757 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3115.5299 that they were taught. 3116.3227 2758 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3116.3227 (pause 3.07) 3119.3921 2759 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3119.3921 And then you know the other things that they were taught about- cause a lot of the 3122.5776 2760 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3122.5776 (pause 0.19) 3122.7687 2761 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3122.7687 the s- the subjects that he taught were agricultural in nature because 3126.1070 2762 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3126.1070 (pause 0.46) 3126.5672 2763 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3126.5672 we had worked in the fields. 3127.6644 2764 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3127.6644 (pause 0.38) 3128.0467 2765 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3128.0467 We understood that. 3128.9599 2766 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3128.9599 (pause 1.50) 3130.4576 2767 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3130.4576 But 3130.7408 2768 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3130.7408 (pause 0.30) 3131.0452 2769 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3131.0452 later on they- 3132.0646 2770 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3132.0646 (pause 0.23) 3132.2911 2771 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3132.2911 they increased the curriculum to where, you know, 3134.2944 2772 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3134.2944 (pause 0.17) 3134.4643 2773 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3134.4643 they put 3134.8466 2774 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3134.8466 (pause 0.34) 3135.1834 2775 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3135.1834 business classes and stuff in there but 3137.0664 2776 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3137.0664 (pause 0.52) 3137.5832 2777 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3137.5832 initially when you have like 3139.1972 2778 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3139.1972 (pause 1.51) 3140.7121 2779 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3140.7121 people who were just coming out of a situation like that you have to give them what they can eat. 3144.7300 2780 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3144.7300 (pause 0.66) 3145.3883 2781 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3145.3883 Like you can- they're on baby milk right now. 3147.3533 2782 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3147.3533 (pause 0.14) 3147.4949 2783 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3147.4949 They not ready to sit down to a steak dinner. 3149.3638 2784 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3150.0221 Right. 3150.4751 2785 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3150.4893 You know? 3150.8432 2786 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3150.8432 (pause 0.35) 3151.1972 2787 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3151.1972 So, um, 3152.2590 2788 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3152.2590 (pause 1.30) 3153.5586 2789 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3153.5586 and like I said, he caught a lot of flack for that 3155.4912 2790 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3155.4912 (pause 0.41) 3155.9017 2791 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3155.9017 because the fact that they were saying that he was 3158.4856 2792 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3158.4856 (pause 2.09) 3160.5780 2793 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3160.5780 s- they had called him Uncle Tom. They was like you know, you don't underst- you know, you're trying to keep us down and 3165.8276 2794 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3165.8276 (pause 1.36) 3167.1868 2795 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3167.1868 and they just didn't see that 3168.6167 2796 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3168.6167 (pause 0.84) 3169.4591 2797 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3169.4591 th- along with the fact that it was a threat- If you ever get a chance to read Up From Slavery, 3173.4629 2798 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3173.4629 (pause 0.47) 3173.9371 2799 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3173.9371 read that book. 3174.6804 2800 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3174.6804 (pause 0.21) 3174.8928 2801 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3174.8928 I mean 3175.2680 2802 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3175.2680 (pause 0.67) 3175.9405 2803 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3175.9405 he was saying that 3176.8183 2804 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3176.8183 (pause 0.83) 3177.6506 2805 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3177.6506 there was a balance that he had to keep 3179.8168 2806 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3179.8168 (pause 0.79) 3180.6026 2807 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3180.6026 with 3181.0375 2808 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3181.0375 (pause 0.17) 3181.2114 2809 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3181.2114 black people now coming into the mainstream 3184.1533 2810 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3184.1533 (pause 0.62) 3184.7691 2811 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3184.7691 of 3185.4699 2812 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3185.4699 (pause 0.34) 3185.8097 2813 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3185.8097 business and all aspects of life. 3188.4502 2814 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3188.4502 (pause 0.61) 3189.0631 2815 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3189.0631 And it was something that you had to 3190.8895 2816 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3190.8895 (pause 0.16) 3191.0452 2817 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3191.0452 take in steps because black people- white people were used to you being their servants. 3195.1935 2818 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3195.1935 (pause 1.09) 3196.2807 2819 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3196.2807 And slaves. 3196.9461 2820 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3196.9461 (pause 0.83) 3197.7743 2821 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3197.7743 So whenever you have 3199.5441 2822 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3199.5441 (pause 0.69) 3200.2378 2823 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3200.2378 all of these people that are in different roles now 3202.5001 2824 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3202.5001 (pause 0.69) 3203.1939 2825 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3203.1939 this is a s- a process, 3204.7371 2826 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3204.7371 (pause 1.01) 3205.7423 2827 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3205.7423 you know. 3206.0750 2828 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3206.0750 (pause 0.45) 3206.5251 2829 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3206.5251 And 3207.0135 2830 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3207.0135 (pause 0.27) 3207.2825 2831 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3207.2825 in that proc- because 3208.4435 2832 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3208.4435 (pause 0.52) 3208.9603 2833 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3208.9603 it can go negative for you like it did with the Klan. 3211.3742 2834 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3212.1104 3212.4289 2835 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3212.5180 You know they saw us like, oh okay well these black people, you know, niggas getting unr- r- restless, you know. We ain't putting up with this. 3218.6979 2836 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3218.6979 (pause 0.22) 3218.9215 2837 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3218.9215 You know. 3219.2401 2838 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3219.2401 (pause 0.98) 3220.2170 2839 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3220.2170 Particularly when they saw us in like 3222.0150 2840 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3222.0150 (pause 0.30) 3222.3123 2841 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3222.3123 positions as Senators and 3224.0537 2842 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3224.0537 (pause 0.50) 3224.5493 2843 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3224.5493 they were like uh-uh. Y'all- y'all got to fix the rules to get them where they sposta belong. 3228.3336 2844 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3228.3336 (pause 0.52) 3228.8574 2845 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3228.8574 And all of those positions that they got during reconstruction they lost 3232.2878 2846 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3232.2878 (pause 0.63) 3232.9178 2847 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3232.9178 because the white 3233.8664 2848 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3233.8664 (pause 0.59) 3234.4610 2849 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3234.4610 government 3235.0769 2850 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3235.0769 (pause 0.49) 3235.5653 2851 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3235.5653 the white state government figured out a way 3237.5728 2852 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3237.5728 (pause 0.17) 3237.7427 2853 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3237.7427 to get them out of office 3238.8328 2854 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3238.8328 (pause 0.50) 3239.3284 2855 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3239.3284 with all kind of crazy tests that you had to- 3241.4874 2856 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3241.4874 (pause 0.32) 3241.8060 2857 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3241.8060 how many marbles in a bottle? 3242.9599 2858 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3242.9599 (pause 0.39) 3243.3533 2859 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3243.3533 Read this paragraph. Oh you didn't read it right. You can't vote. 3245.8451 2860 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3245.8451 (pause 0.93) 3246.7725 2861 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3246.7725 [You know, all this] kind of crazy stuff. 3248.2166 2862 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3246.7866 [Mm-hm.] 3247.2464 2863 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3249.0631 So. 3249.4454 2864 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3249.7851 Wow. 3250.1603 2865 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3250.6205 Yeah. 3250.9390 2866 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3250.9390 (pause 0.23) 3251.1655 2867 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3251.1655 So it's 3251.7602 2868 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3251.7602 (pause 2.14) 3253.8980 2869 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3253.8980 it's a journey. We're still on [it though.] 3255.6790 2870 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3255.1976 [] 3255.6077 2871 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3255.8205 [Yeah.] 3256.2120 2872 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3255.8701 [Yeah], ain't nobody- Yeah. [We still on] it. 3258.0009 2873 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3257.1443 [Mm-hm.] 3257.6611 2874 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3258.0787 [We still on it.] 3258.8008 2875 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3258.1637 [Um], 3258.6663 2876 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3260.3410 tell me about um, go go music. 3262.0117 2877 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3264.7795 Chuck Brown? 3265.2255 2878 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3265.5724 Mm, yeh. 3265.9263 2879 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3265.9263 (pause 0.26) 3266.1882 2880 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3266.1882 [Tell me about] go [go.] 3266.9431 2881 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3266.2095 [Yeah?] 3266.4997 2882 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3266.4997 (pause 0.27) 3266.7729 2883 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3266.7729 [That] well, 3267.3463 2884 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3269.2151 go go is 3270.3690 2885 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3270.3690 (pause 0.30) 3270.6663 2886 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3270.6663 beyond me. 3271.3034 2887 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3271.3034 (pause 1.10) 3272.4006 2888 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3272.4006 Go go 3273.1935 2889 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3273.1935 (pause 0.41) 3273.6082 2890 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3273.6082 and 3274.1037 2891 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3274.1037 (pause 0.67) 3274.7762 2892 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3274.7762 and rap 3275.5266 2893 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3275.5266 (pause 0.81) 3276.3406 2894 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3276.3406 I mean 3276.8079 2895 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3276.8079 (pause 0.17) 3276.9777 2896 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3276.9777 that was kind of 3278.5705 2897 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3278.5705 (pause 0.61) 3279.1834 2898 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3279.1834 the generation 3280.2099 2899 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3280.2099 (pause 0.57) 3280.7833 2900 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3280.7833 behind me's thing. 3281.9088 2901 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3281.9088 (pause 1.79) 3283.6998 2902 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3283.6998 I thought that, you know, I thought it was amazing 3286.1816 2903 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3286.1816 (pause 1.05) 3287.2363 2904 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3287.2363 that 3287.5478 2905 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3287.5478 (pause 0.40) 3287.9513 2906 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3287.9513 he was able to kind of l- 3289.3388 2907 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3289.3388 (pause 0.67) 3290.0113 2908 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3290.0113 put this 3290.5847 2909 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3290.5847 (pause 0.51) 3291.0914 2910 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3291.0914 new type of music together. 3292.6559 2911 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3292.6559 (pause 0.63) 3293.2859 2912 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3293.2859 You know. 3293.6611 2913 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3293.6611 (pause 0.67) 3294.3336 2914 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3294.3336 Um, 3294.7441 2915 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3294.7441 (pause 1.71) 3296.4572 2916 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3296.4572 but 3296.7121 2917 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3296.7121 (pause 0.39) 3297.0985 2918 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3297.0985 my generation was just- 3298.4435 2919 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3298.4435 (pause 0.71) 3299.1585 2920 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3299.1585 the meaning for music that my generation had 3301.6998 2921 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3301.6998 (pause 0.59) 3302.2944 2922 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3302.2944 and the meaning for music that the next generation had 3305.6398 2923 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3305.6398 (pause 0.50) 3306.1424 2924 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3306.1424 with go go I respected it 3307.5724 2925 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3307.5724 (pause 0.86) 3308.4289 2926 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3308.4289 as a art form. 3309.3463 2927 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3309.3463 (pause 0.74) 3310.0895 2928 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3310.0895 Uh, I respect rap as a art form. 3311.9796 2929 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3311.9796 (pause 0.45) 3312.4327 2930 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3312.4327 It's just 3313.0202 2931 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3313.0202 (pause 0.17) 3313.1901 2932 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3313.1901 not me. 3313.5865 2933 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3314.1670 Right. 3314.6271 2934 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3314.7799 You know. 3315.1480 2935 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3315.9904 Fair enough. 3316.5143 2936 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3316.5072 Yeah. 3316.8116 2937 DCB_se1_ag3_m_01 3317.5620 [Fair enough.] 3318.1208 2938 DCB_se3_ag4_m_01 3317.6408 [So.] 3318.0575