Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_09 1.4696 What kinds of games did you play around here when you were younger? 4.1693 2 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 4.7402 I- now, I was born in Mississippi. 6.2257 3 DTA_int_09 6.5690 Uh-huh. What kinds of games did you play when you were young? 8.8085 4 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 9.1534 When I was young? 9.8793 5 DTA_int_09 9.9975 [Yeah.] 10.2788 6 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 10.1044 [Marbles,] Spinning Tops. 12.0665 7 DTA_int_09 12.4171 Uh-huh. How do you play that? 13.5931 8 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 14.0433 Well, then I 15.5963 9 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 15.5963 (pause 0.90) 16.4929 10 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 16.4929 wants to try to build a pile of them neat airplanes. 19.4130 11 DTA_int_09 19.7675 Uh-huh. 20.2346 12 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 20.6059 And then, um, 21.3656 13 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 21.3656 (pause 2.77) 24.1356 14 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 24.1356 went swimming. 25.0883 15 DTA_int_09 25.5943 Uh-huh. 26.0684 16 DTA_int_09 26.0684 (pause 1.10) 27.1676 17 DTA_int_09 27.1676 Where'd you go swimming? 27.9403 18 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 28.5139 Well, that was in a river. 29.9891 19 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 29.9891 (pause 0.21) 30.1998 20 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 30.1998 Wolf River, 30.8847 21 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 30.8847 (pause 0.15) 31.0383 22 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 31.0383 Mississippi. 31.7480 23 DTA_int_09 31.8769 Uh-huh. 32.4037 24 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 34.2593 And, uh, 34.9310 25 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 34.9310 (pause 1.55) 36.4808 26 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 36.4808 else, I 37.1261 27 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 37.1261 (pause 0.32) 37.4422 28 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 37.4422 went to- didn't go to school much. Um, 39.7823 29 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 39.7823 (pause 2.67) 42.4502 30 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 42.4502 moved to Mississippi, and then I was a farmer. 44.4568 31 DTA_int_09 44.8475 [Uh-huh.] 45.2470 32 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 44.9977 [I farm mostly.] 46.0028 33 DTA_int_09 46.4067 Is that right? 46.9863 34 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 48.1409 [I had cotton.] 48.9882 35 DTA_int_09 48.1409 [What kind of farming?] 48.9557 36 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 50.4634 broke up ground, 51.5653 37 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 51.5653 (pause 0.54) 52.1082 38 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 52.1082 broke up new ground, cut down trees, haul logs, 55.2297 39 DTA_int_09 55.6951 Uh-huh. 56.1473 40 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 56.3931 cut wood. 57.2492 41 DTA_int_09 58.3149 Good. 58.6310 42 DTA_int_09 58.6310 (pause 1.11) 59.7396 43 DTA_int_09 59.7396 Uh. 60.2445 44 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 60.3948 [And I-] 60.8157 45 DTA_int_09 60.3948 [What kind of] games did you- 61.4216 46 DTA_int_09 61.6631 uh, do some of your kids play around here now? 64.1288 47 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 64.8532 Well, this kind of game these kids playing here is- I don't understand it much, they play a different kind of ball, 71.0643 48 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 71.0643 (pause 0.39) 71.4510 49 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 71.4510 batting balls with their hand across a [line], and playing hopscotch. 75.0730 50 DTA_int_09 73.2277 [Mm-hm.] 73.4998 51 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 76.6037 And then they'll- 77.3851 52 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 77.3851 (pause 0.30) 77.6881 53 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 77.6881 Some of 'em call theirself playing baseball 80.0341 54 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 80.0341 (pause 0.16) 80.1975 55 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 80.1975 and- 80.6356 56 DTA_int_09 80.6839 How they play hopscotch? 82.0141 57 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 82.6200 Well, they box chalk on there. 84.4112 58 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 84.4112 (pause 0.45) 84.8564 59 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 84.8564 Concrete got /??/ in blocks and with numbers on it and throwing, and hop, 88.7703 60 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 88.7703 (pause 0.46) 89.2313 61 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 89.2313 hopping on foot up and down. 91.0138 62 DTA_int_09 92.9810 Mm-hm. 93.3849 63 DTA_int_09 93.3849 (pause 0.32) 93.7054 64 DTA_int_09 93.7054 Uh, how about that game where uh, 95.2600 65 DTA_int_09 95.2600 (pause 0.53) 95.7913 66 DTA_int_09 95.7913 somebody 96.7527 67 DTA_int_09 96.7527 (pause 1.09) 97.8415 68 DTA_int_09 97.8415 hides and the person, the other people go to try to find them, [what's that called?] 101.6156 69 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 101.3279 [Well, the children, they play hide and seek out here at night sometime when they be out there. 106.2088 70 DTA_int_09 106.5513 Uh-huh. 107.0298 71 DTA_int_09 107.0298 (pause 0.13) 107.1642 72 DTA_int_09 107.1642 How [do they] play that? 108.1257 73 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 107.3526 [And they.] 107.5769 74 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 108.6833 Well, now, I see 'em running across the street, hiding behind cars, and the other of 'em hollering one, two, three, /in and/ out running back to the base to 115.6347 75 DTA_int_09 116.1563 [Uh-huh.] 116.8421 76 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 116.1588 [/unintelligible/] what nobody was calling that. 118.0658 77 DTA_int_09 118.9878 Uh. 119.3682 78 DTA_int_09 119.3682 (pause 0.14) 119.5087 79 DTA_int_09 119.5087 Is there any way they find out who's gonna be it? Like uh. 122.4590 80 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 122.6346 Well, the last man that come in, 124.8912 81 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 124.8912 (pause 0.45) 125.3434 82 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 125.3434 and he didn't out run him, 126.7116 83 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 126.7116 (pause 0.43) 127.1419 84 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 127.1419 or she didn't out run him, well, he's the man got to do the counting. 130.0702 85 DTA_int_09 130.7770 Uh-huh. How about when they start the game, who's it? 133.0541 86 DTA_int_09 133.0541 (pause 0.11) 133.1593 87 DTA_int_09 133.1593 At the beginning. 133.8324 88 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 137.1749 [/When I play as much not to-/] 138.4744 89 DTA_int_09 137.7412 [Are there any lines] or anything that they say? 140.1806 90 DTA_int_09 140.4045 Like we used to say, one potato, two potato, three potato, four, they ever say that? or [anything?] 144.5265 91 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 144.4841 [Well,] I see 'em sitting down on the floor, 146.1497 92 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 146.2814 out there in the yard, they's 147.4778 93 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 147.4778 (pause 0.71) 148.1912 94 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 148.1912 counting one another's toes, now what they be doing that for, I don't know. 151.7944 95 DTA_int_09 152.1632 Uh-huh. 152.6769 96 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 153.9661 And they be doing that kind of game, and when they get through, somebody got to do some running, or I don't know what it'll be, what it- 160.2096 97 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 160.2096 (pause 0.22) 160.4291 98 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 160.4291 what they be call theyself doing. 162.0009 99 DTA_int_09 162.4784 [/Huh/.] 162.7268 100 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 162.4970 [Yeah, like] I foretold you, 163.6463 101 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 163.6463 Y 163.7188 102 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 163.7188 since I come to the city, I just come here in Fifty-Four, 166.4043 103 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 166.4043 (pause 0.41) 166.8170 104 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 166.8170 I've only been here 167.8454 105 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 167.8454 (pause 0.25) 168.0956 106 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 168.0956 here since Fifty-Four. Then, 169.6350 107 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 169.6350 (pause 1.07) 170.7018 108 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 170.7018 and /as you said/, school up here is a whole lot different than the school I sees was down south. 174.7299 109 DTA_int_09 175.4016 Uh-huh. 175.8709 110 DTA_int_09 175.8709 (pause 0.56) 176.4289 111 DTA_int_09 176.4289 [Uh.] 176.8108 112 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 176.4420 [Cause] they even have gyms here to play in, 179.1948 113 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 179.3265 swimming pool, 180.2133 114 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 180.2133 (pause 0.41) 180.6216 115 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 180.6216 Well, the children down there, they- where I was, they didn't have that. 183.4489 116 DTA_int_09 184.0284 The- 184.4192 117 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 184.5948 Said even when they played, they played outdoor, they didn't have no gym to play basketball, that was outdoors. 189.6397 118 DTA_int_09 189.7714 Uh-huh. 190.2632 119 DTA_int_09 190.2632 (pause 1.92) 192.1862 120 DTA_int_09 192.1862 Uh, good. 193.1301 121 DTA_int_09 193.1301 (pause 0.46) 193.5911 122 DTA_int_09 193.5911 Uh-huh. Do you watch a lot of TV? 195.0311 123 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 196.0337 Well, I used to watch TV, but since I 198.3079 124 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 198.3079 (pause 0.39) 198.6986 125 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 198.6986 call myself as 199.7172 126 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 199.7172 (pause 0.44) 200.1562 127 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 200.1562 practicing going on, fixing cars, 202.4644 128 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 202.4644 (pause 0.21) 202.6740 129 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 202.6740 /unintelligible/ and thing like that. 204.6134 130 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 204.6134 (pause 0.37) 204.9866 131 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 204.9866 I don't pay much attention to TV. That's where I was downtown, a friend house a while ago. 208.6294 132 DTA_int_09 208.7304 Uh-huh. [Do you] have any uh, programs that you especially like? 211.7037 133 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 209.2484 [We'll do.] 209.5887 134 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 212.2334 Oh, well, I'm kind of like kids, I almost look at 214.8061 135 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 214.8061 (pause 0.19) 214.9993 136 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 214.9993 cartoons and things like that when it's on. 217.5632 137 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 217.5632 (pause 0.74) 218.3036 138 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 218.3036 Or look at some of the western features, something like that. 220.9619 139 DTA_int_09 221.0234 Uh-huh. Any particular westerns that you like? Any programs like [Gunsmoke] or anything? 225.2249 140 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 223.9956 [Well,] 224.4347 141 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 226.1525 Well Gunsmoke and, uh, the picture come on at six o-clock, I mostly look at them. 230.3243 142 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 230.3243 (pause 0.22) 230.5395 143 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 230.5395 and, uh, 231.0970 144 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 231.0970 (pause 1.24) 232.3351 145 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 232.3351 The Bewitched, whenever it is. 233.8772 146 DTA_int_09 234.3294 Uh-huh. 234.7113 147 DTA_int_09 234.7113 (pause 0.31) 235.0186 148 DTA_int_09 235.0186 Could you tell me one time when you saw Bewitched when it was real good? What happened? 238.5671 149 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 238.7383 Well, no, not exactly, cause 240.9916 150 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 240.9916 (pause 0.56) 241.5535 151 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 241.5535 I don't keep that on my mind all the time, when I see it, I'm just through with it just then when it's gone. 245.8192 152 DTA_int_09 246.9326 Uh-huh. 247.3053 153 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 249.0395 [It goes from-] 249.5795 154 DTA_int_09 249.3600 [How-] 249.5795 155 DTA_int_09 250.1063 Uh. How about The Fugitive or any of those programs? Is that something you watch? 254.0114 156 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 254.5075 Any what? 254.9553 157 DTA_int_09 255.1617 The Fugitive or any of those? 256.7537 158 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 258.1191 No, well, just like I foretell you, I don't know very much about 261.5127 159 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 261.5127 (pause 0.50) 262.0089 160 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 262.0089 that kind of 262.8430 161 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 262.8430 (pause 0.47) 263.3112 162 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 263.3112 junk cause I don't pay no attention and then never read, I can't read. 266.5952 163 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 266.5952 (pause 0.25) 266.8454 164 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 266.8454 If I could read, I could understand a whole lot, you [see.] 269.2217 165 DTA_int_09 269.0197 [Uh-huh.] 269.5904 166 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 270.1875 But, uh, I can't read, I can't even figure things out to understand /nothing on-/ 274.0998 167 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 274.0998 (pause 0.31) 274.4071 168 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 274.4071 see nothing on my own by eyesight and hear. 276.5468 169 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 276.5468 (pause 0.81) 277.3546 170 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 277.3546 [See.] 277.8463 171 DTA_int_09 277.3546 [Uh-huh.] 277.8463 172 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 278.7755 That's they only way I learn most everything I do. 281.1024 173 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 281.1024 (pause 0.55) 281.6556 174 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 281.6556 I watch a person, what they doing and 283.6268 175 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 283.6268 (pause 1.24) 284.8698 176 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 284.8698 from that day /is that/, and I can tell them the same thing or I can do the same thing he do. 288.7842 177 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 288.7842 (pause 0.65) 289.4296 178 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 289.4296 But just getting down to reading, 291.1199 179 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 291.1199 (pause 0.81) 291.9260 180 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 291.9260 like the children do these days, they can read and do things. Well, I can't do it. I can't read cause I never had to do it, I do- /it/ just like fixing cars, and 298.8846 181 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 298.8846 (pause 0.19) 299.0778 182 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 299.0778 peoples ask me, how did you fix car? 301.0150 183 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 301.0150 (pause 0.69) 301.7037 184 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 301.7037 Nobody fix cars and you don't know how to read the directions. Then I say well, 305.5671 185 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 305.5671 (pause 0.76) 306.3310 186 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 306.3310 when I'd /?/ out here, I watch the main worksman I was in the garage what he's doing. 310.8299 187 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 310.8299 (pause 0.24) 311.0714 188 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 311.0714 What I see, 311.6509 189 DTA_int_09 311.9626 [Uh-huh.] 312.3182 190 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 312.1859 [The] same thing he do is come in contact with anything else. 315.1362 191 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 316.3424 And I say, but the quickest way, 318.0722 192 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 318.0722 (pause 1.12) 319.1961 193 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 319.1961 is to fix it with the direction go to book and read it, then you know where to go, but I'll fix it from the straight way the way I know it. 325.3908 194 DTA_int_09 326.4637 Uh-huh. 326.8456 195 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 326.8456 And it act just as good as the way the person if you go to the book and read it. 331.0965 196 DTA_int_09 332.7066 Yeah, that's true. 333.5495 197 DTA_int_09 333.5495 (pause 1.00) 334.5505 198 DTA_int_09 334.5505 Uh, do you have any pets around the house? 336.1442 199 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 336.3666 Well, we is not allowed to keep pets here in the projects here. Well I asked and all, I did have some, but we had to get rid of 'em. 341.8632 200 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 341.8632 (pause 0.96) 342.8241 201 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 342.8241 [And i-] 343.2939 202 DTA_int_09 342.8241 [Uh.] What kind of pets did you have? 344.5643 203 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 344.5643 I had t- one dog and one cat. You know, I had a cat here, one, I had to get rid of him, I had a 348.8492 204 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 349.3672 a dog here and I had to get rid of it. 350.9653 205 DTA_int_09 351.5580 [Mm.] 351.9531 206 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 351.7775 [So] they don't allow 352.8926 207 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 353.3876 us to have pets here in the project. 354.8496 208 DTA_int_09 354.9944 Uh-huh. Who's they? You mean the 356.4871 209 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 357.0002 What [you say?] 357.4129 210 DTA_int_09 357.2198 [people] that rent them [out?] 358.6100 211 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 358.3700 [Oh] no, the house commission where we pay rent. 360.3083 212 DTA_int_09 361.0459 Uh-huh. 361.4586 213 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 361.5551 Say they don't allow no pets, and then they say 363.6504 214 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 363.6504 (pause 0.52) 364.1728 215 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 364.1728 no pets allowed in the projects. 366.1704 216 DTA_int_09 366.4294 Uh-huh. 366.8860 217 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 367.7432 I guess it's 368.4325 218 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 368.4325 (pause 0.12) 368.5510 219 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 368.5510 about people who raise dogs up or something, not afraid to bite each other's kid and it's caused a lot of trouble. 373.0862 220 DTA_int_09 373.6289 Yeah. 373.9362 221 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 374.3620 And so I guess that's the reason they don't 376.2411 222 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 376.2411 (pause 1.37) 377.6065 223 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 377.6065 want no pets around or allow them around, I reckon. 380.0149 224 DTA_int_09 380.0200 Uh-huh. 380.4722 225 DTA_int_09 380.4722 (pause 0.40) 380.8717 226 DTA_int_09 380.8717 How about down in Mississippi? How many [pets did you have?] 383.0668 227 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 382.6498 [Oh, well] yeah, we raised 384.6386 228 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 384.9722 dog down there, hunting dogs, running rabbits, 387.3019 229 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 387.3019 (pause 0.25) 387.5522 230 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 387.5522 coon, things at night like that. 389.3873 231 DTA_int_09 389.8308 Uh-huh. 390.3708 232 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 391.1083 And actually it wasn't no problem down there cause see we had open fields. 394.8561 233 DTA_int_09 395.0581 Yeah. 395.6332 234 DTA_int_09 395.6332 (pause 1.51) 397.1435 235 DTA_int_09 397.1435 Then you. 397.7083 236 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 398.1978 Uh, we'd- 398.5490 237 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 398.5490 (pause 0.46) 399.0100 238 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 399.0100 mm, we'd do /like a warning/ down there, 401.1525 239 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 401.1525 (pause 0.64) 401.7879 240 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 401.7879 about pets and things like that, so people like to hunt. 404.4440 241 DTA_int_09 405.0631 Mm-hm. 405.3298 242 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 405.3298 Go through the woods hunting [at night.] 407.0112 243 DTA_int_09 406.6600 [Did you go] hunting with the dogs? 407.9376 244 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 408.4381 Well, sometime we run. Yeah, I like to hunt [with rabbits.] 411.1287 245 DTA_int_09 410.5887 [Tell me about that.] 411.5800 246 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 412.2088 Oh, well, we'd goes hunting. Hunting rabbits to bring in 414.8078 247 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 414.8078 (pause 0.66) 415.4707 248 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 415.4707 eight, nine, ten rabbits a day. 417.0918 249 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 417.0918 (pause 1.16) 418.2509 250 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 418.2509 Going out hunting. 419.0669 251 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 419.0669 (pause 0.91) 419.9817 252 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 419.9817 Cause I tried to shoot shotgun, it's too much for me, 422.4111 253 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 422.4111 (pause 0.12) 422.5353 254 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 422.5353 everybody keep me down I guess cause I was so small. 425.0640 255 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 425.0640 (pause 0.43) 425.4986 256 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 425.4986 [I shoot] a rifle and I shoot a rifle good than I can a shotgun. 428.3084 257 DTA_int_09 425.4986 [Uh-huh.] 425.8586 258 DTA_int_09 429.3577 [Is there.] 429.8538 259 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 429.5816 [I carry] a twenty-two rifle all the time. 431.2998 260 DTA_int_09 431.6378 Is that what you have now? 432.5247 261 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 432.6476 I don't have no kind of gun here, I ain't bring that into the city cause I ain't know you allowed to have one or no. 437.0752 262 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 437.0752 (pause 0.61) 437.6854 263 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 437.6854 Cause I never 438.3484 264 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 438.3484 (pause 0.42) 438.7698 265 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 438.7698 stayed in a city before. The first time I stayed in the city. Course, I was born and raised in Memphis. 442.5643 266 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 442.5643 (pause 0.66) 443.2245 267 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 443.2245 But, I wasn't /nothing/ large enough, my mother died when I was six years old. 446.6038 268 DTA_int_09 446.9243 Is that right? What did you do then? 448.1756 269 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 448.8561 Well, I was orphan kid, I was put in an orphan home. 451.1171 270 DTA_int_09 451.4711 Uh-huh. 452.0068 271 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 452.3975 And see they raised me up until I got about sixteen, seventeen years old, and I've been hitting it for myself ever since. 457.2800 272 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 457.2800 (pause 0.70) 457.9825 273 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 457.9825 And see, I'm forty-eight years old, this last past thirteenth of July, I was forty-eight years old. 462.3189 274 DTA_int_09 462.7316 Uh-huh. 463.1663 275 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 463.9258 And see, else I'm married, got six kids, and a wife. 466.8069 276 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 466.8069 (pause 0.14) 466.9518 277 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 466.9518 And 467.3996 278 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 467.3996 (pause 0.21) 467.6114 279 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 467.6114 she died 468.2787 280 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 468.2787 (pause 0.22) 468.4939 281 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 468.4939 about eight months ago. 469.4081 282 DTA_int_09 469.4081 Your wife died about eight [months ago?] 470.7885 283 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 470.5294 [Eight] months ago. Thirtieth of November. 472.4436 284 DTA_int_09 472.8387 Hm. 473.2251 285 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 473.3173 It's just about eight months [by now.] 475.0871 286 DTA_int_09 474.5822 [Who takes] care of your kids now? 476.1408 287 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 476.7012 Nobody but me. 477.3817 288 DTA_int_09 477.7900 Is that right? 478.3300 289 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 478.3300 You see, I'm on ADC. 479.6954 290 DTA_int_09 480.2090 [Uh-huh.] 480.5076 291 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 480.3671 [And] they help me. 481.1113 292 DTA_int_09 483.1666 What's [ADC?] 483.6945 293 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 483.4212 [I just] works here for the city. But when I first got out, I quit work, uh, least I didn't quit work, I got out of work in Fifty-Seven. 489.3157 294 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 489.4677 And got on the Welfare in Fifty-Seven. 491.2589 295 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 491.2589 (pause 0.67) 491.9323 296 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 491.9323 [They] tryna- and I've been on that, and I just work with the city. 494.3464 297 DTA_int_09 491.9323 [Huh.] 492.1380 298 DTA_int_09 495.7425 Yeah. 496.1332 299 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 496.5766 Park Recreation. 497.5337 300 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 497.5337 (pause 1.92) 499.4555 301 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 499.4555 And so then well- that's when my wife got in bad health. 501.8702 302 DTA_int_09 502.5492 Uh-huh. 502.8126 303 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 502.8126 They had to stop me, and I stayed here with the children to send them to school. 506.3468 304 DTA_int_09 506.9087 Yeah. 507.2468 305 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 507.3258 Until she passed, after she passed, they just 509.2142 306 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 509.2142 (pause 0.49) 509.7015 307 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 509.7015 put me on ADC then. 511.0076 308 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 511.0076 (pause 0.66) 511.6661 309 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 511.6661 And so, that's where I 513.0754 310 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 513.0754 (pause 0.27) 513.3476 311 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 513.3476 make my living now. 514.2322 312 DTA_int_09 514.4298 Uh-huh. 514.8381 313 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 514.8381 I'm back 515.3166 314 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 515.5976 then 515.9312 315 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 515.9312 (pause 0.21) 516.1376 316 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 516.1376 taking care of the kids and staying with them. 517.8662 317 DTA_int_09 520.5399 Yeah, how old is your oldest child? 522.1484 318 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 522.1484 Twelve. 522.5259 319 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 523.3425 Yeah, one twelve, one eleven, 525.0855 320 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 525.0855 (pause 0.64) 525.7232 321 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 525.7232 nine, 526.3773 322 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 526.3773 (pause 0.98) 527.3530 323 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 527.3530 eight, 527.6604 324 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 527.6604 (pause 0.65) 528.3086 325 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 528.3086 seven and 529.2403 326 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 529.2403 (pause 1.93) 531.1714 327 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 531.1714 f- one is four. 532.1238 328 DTA_int_09 532.7823 Mm-hm. 533.1467 329 DTA_int_09 533.1467 (pause 0.97) 534.1213 330 DTA_int_09 534.1213 Uh, is there any way you can get a wish? Say by eating chicken or something? 537.5618 331 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 537.9174 Chicken? 538.3038 332 DTA_int_09 538.4750 Yeah, with a bone in there or something. You break it apart. 541.4889 333 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 541.5108 Well, now. 542.5118 334 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 542.5118 (pause 2.17) 544.6806 335 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 544.6806 /How we had to say that they tell me it's a- where's/ the breast bone. 547.8401 336 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 547.8401 (pause 0.49) 548.3282 337 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 548.3282 I think it's the breast bone of the chicken, yeah, is it the wishbone? 550.7816 338 DTA_int_09 551.1884 Uh-huh and how's that work? 552.4396 339 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 553.2430 Mm. Well, now, I don't how they work that, they say you take it and 557.0143 340 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 557.0143 (pause 0.73) 557.7416 341 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 557.7416 throw it over your left shoulder and walk 559.3967 342 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 559.3967 (pause 0.32) 559.7172 343 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 559.7172 ten feet or 560.6435 344 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 560.6435 (pause 0.17) 560.8104 345 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 560.8104 to 561.0211 346 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 561.0211 (pause 0.35) 561.3679 347 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 561.3679 ten, five feet or ten feet and wish for what you want. 563.9725 348 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 563.9725 (pause 0.62) 564.5959 349 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 564.5959 That's the way we all heard it down south when I was in the country. 566.9651 350 DTA_int_09 567.3954 Mm-hm. 567.8699 351 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 567.8400 But see, but the peoples in the city, they don't 570.5739 352 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 570.8637 throw it that way. They goes to wishing for it now they tells me. 573.4173 353 DTA_int_09 573.9266 Yeah. 574.2910 354 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 574.6202 And see, they go to wishing pond and 576.4861 355 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 576.4861 (pause 0.70) 577.1813 356 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 577.1813 throw their penny or quarter or whatever it is over the wishing pond and turn around and 580.7607 357 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 580.7607 (pause 0.14) 580.9056 358 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 580.9056 wish for what they want. 581.8100 359 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 581.8100 (pause 1.02) 582.8267 360 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 582.8267 Well, it ain't for one thing, I always wished for my life since I've been in Michigan. 586.2612 361 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 586.2612 (pause 0.39) 586.6475 362 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 586.6475 And have a driver license. 587.8450 363 DTA_int_09 588.2357 Is that right? 588.7625 364 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 589.4562 I done tried hard all I knowed how. 592.2204 365 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 592.2204 (pause 1.27) 593.4936 366 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 593.4936 I done paid out money, 594.8195 367 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 594.8195 (pause 1.44) 596.2622 368 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 596.2622 I done went places 597.5617 369 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 597.5617 (pause 0.49) 598.0490 370 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 598.0490 now, I'm going to school. 599.6120 371 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 599.6120 (pause 0.43) 600.0448 372 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 600.0448 Trying to get 'em now. 601.1158 373 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 601.1158 (pause 1.06) 602.1769 374 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 602.1769 But, they tell me that 603.4677 375 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 603.4677 (pause 0.29) 603.7574 376 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 603.7574 it would cost me a hundred and ninety dollar. 606.0711 377 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 606.0711 (pause 0.22) 606.2950 378 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 606.2950 Hundred ninety-five dollar 607.4980 379 DTA_int_09 608.0496 [How come?] 608.5940 380 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 608.3525 [to get ] the license. 609.2877 381 DTA_int_09 610.5565 How come so much? 611.3774 382 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 611.3555 But, course, I can't read. 612.9140 383 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 613.4877 Now, I know there's a law of Michigan 615.1911 384 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 615.1911 (pause 0.58) 615.7750 385 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 615.7750 I can read signs and things, but when it come down to paper like you got there, 619.3794 386 DTA_int_09 619.3794 Yeah. 619.7103 387 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 619.7965 I can not read that. 620.7213 388 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 620.7213 (pause 0.37) 621.0945 389 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 621.0945 I can spell the words to you, but I can't pronounce 'em. 623.2896 390 DTA_int_09 623.8779 Uh-huh. 624.3170 391 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 624.3170 See, that's my hard /proposition/ 625.7394 392 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 627.4633 [I] can spell anything you put before me, I can write just as good as you can. 630.9140 393 DTA_int_09 627.4633 [Oh.] 627.8365 394 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 632.7916 If I look at the paper and them letters on that and read on that paper, I'd write that whole piece of paper you got there, just like [you got it.] 638.2794 395 DTA_int_09 637.8064 [/?/] 638.2185 396 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 638.8179 But now, me coming down and reading it to you, I couldn't read. 641.3379 397 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 641.3379 (pause 0.25) 641.5838 398 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 641.5838 Cause I can't pronounce the 642.9755 399 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 642.9755 (pause 1.25) 644.2208 400 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 644.2208 the words as I write 'em. 645.9115 401 DTA_int_09 646.2287 Yeah. 646.5038 402 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 647.1316 As I spell 'em, I can't pronounce it. 648.8219 403 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 648.8219 (pause 0.69) 649.5155 404 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 649.5155 /Nunciation/ is my problem, and I /nounce/ it. I can spell anything you put before me. 653.4389 405 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 653.4389 (pause 0.87) 654.3126 406 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 654.3126 But I can't pronounce it. 655.2345 407 DTA_int_09 655.6337 Uh-huh. 656.1089 408 DTA_int_09 656.1089 (pause 1.53) 657.6364 409 DTA_int_09 657.6364 Alright, good. How about when one of your kid's tooths come out. 660.3413 410 DTA_int_09 660.3413 (pause 0.50) 660.8418 411 DTA_int_09 660.8418 What do you do then? 661.5936 412 DTA_int_09 661.5936 (pause 0.48) 662.0715 413 DTA_int_09 662.0715 When one of your kid's lose a tooth, what do you do? 664.1513 414 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 664.5852 Well, 665.1604 415 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 665.1604 (pause 1.13) 666.2930 416 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 666.2930 he lose a tooth, he pull it out and throw it out, or no. 670.1857 417 DTA_int_09 670.5808 You ever put it under a- under pillow? 672.7584 418 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 673.3232 No. 673.7798 419 DTA_int_09 673.9423 No. 674.2320 420 DTA_int_09 674.2320 (pause 1.31) 675.5447 421 DTA_int_09 675.5447 Oh. 675.9223 422 DTA_int_09 675.9223 (pause 0.54) 676.4583 423 DTA_int_09 676.4583 Okay. 677.0374 424 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 677.0813 Just like I- when I was operated on in 679.2326 425 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 679.2326 (pause 1.01) 680.2408 426 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 680.2408 sixty-one, I think it was, a gall stone, kidney stone. 682.9760 427 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 682.9760 (pause 0.79) 683.7645 428 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 683.7645 Well that doctor give me, cause he say he'd give me that for a- 686.7150 429 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 686.7150 (pause 0.29) 687.0047 430 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 687.0047 say, what'd he call it? 687.9355 431 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 687.9355 (pause 0.49) 688.4228 432 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 688.4228 It's a 688.8267 433 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 688.8267 (pause 1.12) 689.9466 434 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 689.9466 talking about, big as a marble. 691.5311 435 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 691.5311 (pause 0.80) 692.3326 436 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 692.3326 [He] put it in the jar. 693.3336 437 DTA_int_09 692.3326 [Hm.] 692.5477 438 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 693.9263 And hand it to me. He told me, I forget what he told me. Either he say, he give me- give me that- told me to keep it. I kept it there on the TV for long til the children throw it away, I been had that for about three or four years. 702.7317 439 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 702.7317 (pause 0.99) 703.7195 440 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 703.7195 And I'd see them throw the jar and everything away since their mother passed. 706.9273 441 DTA_int_09 708.0951 Uh-huh. Good. 709.2146 442 DTA_int_09 709.2146 (pause 0.19) 709.4034 443 DTA_int_09 709.4034 Uh. 709.9390 444 DTA_int_09 709.9390 (pause 0.22) 710.1585 445 DTA_int_09 710.1585 Did you go to school at all? 711.2765 446 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 712.3258 Go to school, I went to school, I went- got far as the third grade and now 716.4922 447 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 716.4922 (pause 0.79) 717.2780 448 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 717.2780 I just tell you the fact that's true. 718.7824 449 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 718.7824 (pause 0.49) 719.2697 450 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 719.2697 If I'da went on to school, 721.2673 451 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 721.2673 (pause 0.93) 722.1990 452 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 722.1990 Instead of being like boys would be, running around with other class of boys, 726.1964 453 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 726.1964 (pause 0.13) 726.3310 454 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 726.3310 them wouldn't go to school you see. 728.0047 455 DTA_int_09 728.2857 Mm-hm. 728.6281 456 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 728.6281 Maybe I woulda learned more than I did. 730.5978 457 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 731.5549 But, 731.9369 458 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 731.9369 (pause 0.70) 732.6349 459 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 732.6349 I was going to- uh, school there in Memphis, 735.2735 460 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 735.2735 (pause 0.69) 735.9622 461 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 735.9622 they call Booker T. Washington. 737.1417 462 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 737.1417 (pause 0.61) 737.7519 463 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 737.7519 That's where I was going to school at. 738.9680 464 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 738.9680 (pause 1.29) 740.2544 465 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 740.2544 I was is third grade 741.5451 466 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 741.5451 (pause 0.34) 741.8832 467 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 741.8832 when we and other boys went down on the river, 744.6029 468 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 744.6029 (pause 0.74) 745.3449 469 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 745.3449 and we went down that river, a truant officer caught us. 747.7025 470 DTA_int_09 748.1371 Uh-huh. 748.5191 471 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 748.6814 Well, I did /kill the/ /unintelligible/ 750.3231 472 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 750.3231 (pause 0.55) 750.8707 473 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 750.8707 put me in the 751.8673 474 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 751.8673 (pause 0.22) 752.0868 475 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 752.0868 farm school. 752.9429 476 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 752.9429 (pause 2.10) 755.0415 477 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 755.0415 When they had my trial, they said I was too little to be there and too little to send anywhere else, so they put me in the orphan home. 760.3215 478 DTA_int_09 760.6991 [Uh-huh.] 761.0547 479 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 760.9361 [Well,] I was small 761.9371 480 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 763.2280 so, I stayed in the orphan home til I got twelve years old. 765.8709 481 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 765.8709 (pause 0.85) 766.7193 482 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 766.7193 After I got twelve, some peoples in Arkansas 769.3360 483 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 769.3360 (pause 0.86) 770.1981 484 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 770.1981 had a farm that they [owned] 771.7083 485 DTA_int_09 771.2393 [Yeah.] 771.5310 486 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 772.1781 and they took me 773.1966 487 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 773.1966 (pause 0.97) 774.1658 488 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 774.1658 and some more boy, another two boys out there on the farm. 777.0063 489 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 777.0063 (pause 0.96) 777.9622 490 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 777.9622 So, I farmed out there with them til I got about sixteen, seventeen years old, and then I 782.1725 491 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 782.1725 (pause 0.34) 782.5153 492 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 782.5153 started a program /???/ by myself. 784.7105 493 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 784.7105 (pause 1.39) 786.1033 494 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 786.1033 So, I don't have no mother and father at all, I have a father too /living in Mem-/, but I ain't sees him since nineteen twenty-eight and that's been a long time ago and [I don't know is he still] living or no. 794.4525 495 DTA_int_09 793.0573 [Is that right?] 793.6061 496 DTA_int_09 795.0671 Huh. 795.4973 497 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 796.4407 He says, oh. 797.3007 498 DTA_int_09 797.9575 How about uh, 798.8707 499 DTA_int_09 798.8707 (pause 0.30) 799.1736 500 DTA_int_09 799.1736 when you were in school, can you tell me what the teacher wrote on in front of the room? 802.4230 501 DTA_int_09 802.4230 (pause 0.76) 803.1869 502 DTA_int_09 803.1869 That big black thing? 804.2829 503 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 804.8449 Oh, well the blackboard, I- yeah. I remember the blackboard alright, but not what she wrote when I was going to school. It's been a long time cause these books I see are different. They're not, they don't have these /baby rays and/ 814.5254 504 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 814.5254 (pause 0.41) 814.9381 505 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 814.9381 the ducks and things in the books like here like the children did then and when they read. Our books was all different. 819.9200 506 DTA_int_09 820.2317 Yeah. That's [true.] 821.0839 507 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 820.7942 [It's a] lot of change in 'em. 822.3000 508 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 822.9702 Ask me and I tell my children, they always talking about they be great at school, I say, y'all better go on and learn cause 828.0674 509 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 828.0674 (pause 0.38) 828.4497 510 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 828.4497 your daddy /get their/ chance to learn something, I want y'all to try to learn something. 831.4484 511 DTA_int_09 831.4484 Yeah. 831.8479 512 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 832.5679 I say, maybe y'all might can make your living better than I did. 835.4684 513 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 835.4684 (pause 1.18) 836.6450 514 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 836.6450 I think you learn, get your s- 838.1684 515 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 838.1684 (pause 0.50) 838.6645 516 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 838.6645 I don't wanna say I could be able to college you, but you go on and finish the school, this part. 842.9713 517 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 842.9713 (pause 0.54) 843.5157 518 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 843.5157 You may be learn enough to get you a job 845.6510 519 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 845.6510 (pause 0.58) 846.2305 520 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 846.2305 to help your ownself, and then you might can college your ownself, goin- end up [going] to college. 850.2301 521 DTA_int_09 849.2856 [Yeah.] 849.6676 522 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 851.4281 But, you take these kids these days, these, some of 'em will go to school and some don't wanna go. 855.6334 523 DTA_int_09 856.0455 Yeah. 856.4582 524 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 857.5953 [I wished] I had the chance to go. 859.1494 525 DTA_int_09 857.5953 [Yeah.] 857.9289 526 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 859.8651 And I could go now, they tell me, but 862.0026 527 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 862.0026 (pause 1.02) 863.0234 528 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 863.0234 I just said to myself, I said, as old as I is now, I don't see a way in the world that I could learn anymore. 868.9086 529 DTA_int_09 869.1928 Oh, I bet you could. 870.2888 530 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 870.6416 I might could. 871.5285 531 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 871.5285 (pause 0.50) 872.0290 532 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 872.0290 But, it's just /call/ depending 873.7192 533 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 873.7192 (pause 1.47) 875.1880 534 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 875.1880 what you wanna do. 875.9738 535 DTA_int_09 876.3250 Yeah. 876.6455 536 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 876.6455 That's in your mind. 877.5895 537 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 877.9231 If you put your mind on something you wanna do, 879.9865 538 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 879.9865 (pause 0.30) 880.2851 539 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 880.2851 you'll do that. 880.8075 540 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 880.8075 (pause 1.29) 882.0968 541 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 882.0968 If you ain't got your mind on it, 883.2821 542 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 883.2821 (pause 0.53) 883.8090 543 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 883.8090 you ain't make no good at it. 885.1436 544 DTA_int_09 887.2933 How about uh, what did you sit in? 889.0275 545 DTA_int_09 889.0275 (pause 1.52) 890.5465 546 DTA_int_09 890.5465 In the class room. 891.2314 547 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 891.2358 Well, we had benches. 892.2368 548 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 892.2368 (pause 0.29) 892.5266 549 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 892.5266 Never did. 892.9831 550 DTA_int_09 893.3479 What do kids sit in now? 894.6079 551 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 895.1874 And so, 895.6732 552 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 895.6732 (pause 0.11) 895.7874 553 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 895.7874 um, well, down in um, 897.2669 554 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 897.2669 (pause 1.15) 898.4172 555 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 898.4172 in these here church schools, uh well, I see /?/ getting out of school. I went in Memphis, 903.0423 556 DTA_int_09 903.5296 [Mm-hm.] 903.8702 557 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 903.7755 [Here,] they would have desks just like, I see, 905.9723 558 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 906.0689 you know, childrens have here. 907.1852 559 DTA_int_09 907.2906 Yeah. 907.6813 560 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 908.9369 But, out there in the country where I stayed in Mississippi, 911.6512 561 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 911.6512 (pause 0.62) 912.2687 562 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 912.2687 we- they sat on benches. 913.5770 563 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 913.5770 (pause 0.46) 914.0380 564 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 914.0380 See, I never [did go to] school down in Mississippi 915.6317 565 DTA_int_09 914.3631 [Uh-huh.] 914.7363 566 DTA_int_09 915.9100 [Yeah.] 916.2085 567 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 916.0856 [at alls.] Cause, I was too large, more as than I thought I was, I [wasn't too large.] 919.8754 568 DTA_int_09 919.1330 [Well, I guess.] 919.6609 569 DTA_int_09 920.1915 [I gue-] 920.4725 570 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 920.3891 [But] I /unintelligible/ went to farming. 921.9816 571 DTA_int_09 924.1828 That was a little tough to 925.1399 572 DTA_int_09 925.1399 (pause 1.47) 926.6084 573 DTA_int_09 926.6084 /?/ care so much about the education now. 929.1921 574 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 929.4819 Well, I reckon they did. 931.2753 575 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 931.2753 (pause 0.89) 932.1665 576 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 932.1665 They about care too then they wouldn't catch up with the boys playing hookie, when going to swimming thing, /??/, you know, staying out of school. 938.9028 577 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 938.9028 (pause 0.71) 939.6140 578 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 939.6140 If I'd'a went on to school, put my mind in school and went on in school, maybe I woulda 944.0641 579 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 944.0641 (pause 1.12) 945.1880 580 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 945.1880 learnt myself something more than I is now. 947.3568 581 DTA_int_09 947.5236 Yeah. 947.9187 582 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 948.5334 Let's see, /after/ I just didn't go back to school no more, went on calling myself farming, 953.0477 583 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 953.0477 (pause 0.83) 953.8758 584 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 953.8758 well, the thing about school, I didn't learn no more. 955.8404 585 DTA_int_09 956.2399 [Farming.] 956.6740 586 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 956.4858 [No] more about reading, most I learned is about farming, fixing tractors, and 960.4129 587 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 960.7685 cutting hay, 961.6187 588 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 961.6187 (pause 0.50) 962.1192 589 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 962.1192 milk cows, and feeding hog, killing hog, and all this and /?/ [that] you see. 966.1937 590 DTA_int_09 965.3329 [Uh-huh.] 965.6953 591 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 967.2646 Well, see, that's because I went through learning, but on, on mostly all I know. 971.1529 592 DTA_int_09 971.7499 Uh-huh. 972.1363 593 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 972.6430 Well, see, I never thought I was gonna live in no city, and so I come to this after I married 976.8104 594 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 976.8104 (pause 1.08) 977.8948 595 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 977.8948 in fifty-two, 978.6807 596 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 978.6807 (pause 0.92) 979.6026 597 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 979.6026 with the girl I have now, that I did have. 981.9324 598 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 981.9324 (pause 1.06) 982.9904 599 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 982.9904 Well, she stayed down there and farmed with me two year and she told me come on, let's go to Michigan. 986.8730 600 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 986.8730 (pause 0.80) 987.6733 601 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 987.6733 I told her, I ain't never lived in no city, she say, you can do better than you is here. 991.2426 602 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 991.2426 (pause 0.34) 991.5792 603 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 991.5792 And I said, well, 992.4880 604 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 992.4880 (pause 1.76) 994.2441 605 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 994.2441 if you think we can make it better there, I'll go. 996.2474 606 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 996.2474 (pause 0.08) 996.3290 607 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 996.3290 And so, I come one up here with her. 997.9297 608 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 997.9297 (pause 1.73) 999.6632 609 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 999.6632 [/unintelligible/] 1000.5316 610 DTA_int_09 1000.3487 [Oh.] 1000.5945 611 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1000.7511 She was already staying up here cause she had people staying up here. She [had mother] and father, and sister and brother, and all, they was already staying. 1006.3575 612 DTA_int_09 1003.3590 [Oh yeah.] 1003.8463 613 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1006.7395 She was down there on a vacation. 1008.1736 614 DTA_int_09 1008.4897 Yeah. 1008.8365 615 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1009.4468 And so I- I was down there, and she seen me and she said, I went round about two weeks when we had married down there. 1015.1821 616 DTA_int_09 1015.3665 Is that right? 1016.0338 617 DTA_int_09 1016.0338 (pause 2.02) 1018.0493 618 DTA_int_09 1018.0493 That's pretty good. 1018.9625 619 DTA_int_09 1018.9625 (pause 0.47) 1019.4366 620 DTA_int_09 1019.4366 Uh. If you walk outside the classroom, where would you be? 1022.0825 621 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1024.3166 When you come out 1025.1244 622 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1025.1244 (pause 0.22) 1025.3395 623 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1025.3395 down there? 1025.8516 624 DTA_int_09 1025.8516 Yeah, well yeah. If you walk outside the classroom, 1028.2268 625 DTA_int_09 1028.2268 (pause 0.51) 1028.7405 626 DTA_int_09 1028.7405 where would you be? In the what? 1030.1278 627 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1031.6732 Well, you'll be in the 1033.2092 628 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1033.2092 (pause 0.83) 1034.0389 629 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1034.0389 hallway, I would [call it.] 1035.4351 630 DTA_int_09 1034.9170 [Yeah. Right.] Good. Yeah that's right. That's what I call it too. And what [/inaudible/] 1038.5362 631 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1037.8173 [There in the hallway,] well, 1039.2518 632 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1040.4460 now, when I was going to school, they had a hall, went hallway and lockers, for the, you know, put your clothes and chaps and thing like that in. 1047.2318 633 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1047.2318 (pause 1.31) 1048.5445 634 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1048.5445 And then outdoor, 1049.8864 635 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1049.8864 (pause 0.36) 1050.2464 636 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1050.2464 we had ground to play on. 1051.7017 637 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1051.7017 (pause 1.30) 1053.0020 638 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1053.0020 But, 1053.3855 639 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1053.3855 (pause 0.47) 1053.8509 640 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1053.8509 didn't- in this gym business, I ain't never did know nothing much about it. 1057.4278 641 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1057.4278 (pause 0.28) 1057.7088 642 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1057.7088 [Until I] come here. 1058.7087 643 DTA_int_09 1057.7088 [/inaudible/] 1058.2168 644 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1060.4807 That's the first time I ever see it. And just like 1062.4431 645 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1062.4431 (pause 1.00) 1063.4441 646 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1063.4441 a social security card. 1064.5812 647 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1064.5812 (pause 0.50) 1065.0861 648 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1065.0861 I ain't never had nary one of them til I come here to Michigan, the whole time I was in the South. 1068.9261 649 DTA_int_09 1069.0446 Is that right? 1069.7295 650 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1070.1949 They said I couldn't get /one of them/. 1071.3057 651 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1071.3057 (pause 1.14) 1072.4499 652 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1072.4499 I didn't know why, cause I didn't know. I didn't know how to go 1075.0779 653 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1075.0779 (pause 0.13) 1075.2069 654 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1075.2069 told get nary one, cause the man I stayed with 1077.4417 655 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1077.4417 (pause 0.53) 1077.9685 656 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1077.9685 on the farm, we farming. He always think, oh you don't need this, you don't need that, 1081.9938 657 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1081.9938 (pause 0.47) 1082.4592 658 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1082.4592 long as you got the truck. That- I drove transport truck 1084.9869 659 DTA_int_09 1085.4698 You drove [a truck?] 1086.1810 660 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1085.6893 [trailer trucks,] all kind of truck, hauling stuff. 1088.3498 661 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1089.2615 But they had the license on the steering wheel. 1091.2339 662 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1091.2339 (pause 0.11) 1091.3414 663 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1091.3414 He said, if the man stop me, call him. 1093.3206 664 DTA_int_09 1093.6762 Yeah. 1094.0908 665 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1094.3367 Well, see, he told me I never did need no license, so I s- I just had that in my mind, I didn't try to get none. 1099.7954 666 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1099.7954 (pause 1.15) 1100.9500 667 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1100.9500 Well, I didn't figure, no, come to stay in no city no way, I farmed most of my life, I figured I'd be right there until everything come up until I went to Army in fif- 1108.9266 668 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1108.9266 (pause 0.38) 1109.3065 669 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1109.3065 fifty-two. 1109.7868 670 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1109.7868 (pause 0.90) 1110.6874 671 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1110.6874 Yeah. No. Forty-two. I went to the army in forty-two. 1113.4011 672 DTA_int_09 1113.9060 Uh-huh. 1114.4021 673 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1115.0109 And, I just 1115.8055 674 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1115.8055 (pause 0.47) 1116.2797 675 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1116.2797 I didn't stay there very long. I stayed there about five or six months. 1119.5592 676 DTA_int_09 1119.7041 Uh-huh. 1120.2221 677 DTA_int_09 1120.2221 (pause 0.89) 1121.1162 678 DTA_int_09 1121.1162 [How about] outside this school here, what do they have? 1123.9392 679 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1121.2746 [Ye-] 1121.3928 680 DTA_int_09 1124.9446 Where [the kids can play.] 1126.0242 681 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1125.1553 [Well, I see they] have 1126.6568 682 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1127.8362 mostly a lot of things out the school here, they play a lot, they might have just as much as the gym outside as they do [on the inside.] 1134.3806 683 DTA_int_09 1133.6255 [Yeah, well, what- what's] that called [outside?] 1135.4562 684 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1135.3333 [Well,] they call that a playground. 1136.6322 685 DTA_int_09 1136.7668 Yeah. What are some of the things they find in the playground? 1139.1990 686 DTA_int_09 1139.1990 (pause 1.29) 1140.4926 687 DTA_int_09 1140.4926 What are some of the things that you might find in a playground? 1143.0960 688 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1143.2014 Find? 1143.7063 689 DTA_int_09 1144.0048 Yeah. 1144.3253 690 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1144.9531 Um. I don't know about find, but. 1148.1876 691 DTA_int_09 1149.2954 I mean, what are some of the things that they play on? 1151.1290 692 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1152.3759 Well, I see they have these here. 1154.2549 693 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1154.2549 (pause 0.18) 1154.4349 694 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1154.4349 I don't know what them thing they got, jumping up and down there, big balls. 1157.9093 695 DTA_int_09 1158.4756 [Uh-huh.] 1158.9458 696 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1158.7522 [And they] haves uh, 1159.8371 697 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1160.3815 jumping racks. 1161.3079 698 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1161.3079 (pause 0.31) 1161.6152 699 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1161.6152 Racks you jump over like race racks here, running racks [you jump.] 1164.5665 700 DTA_int_09 1164.3163 [How about] those bars you can climb all over? 1166.3358 701 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1166.7705 The monkey bars? 1167.7023 702 DTA_int_09 1168.4881 Yeah, what are they? 1169.2872 703 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1173.4590 Well, I don't know if that's what you call 'em. I help build 'em since I work with the, you know, city. 1178.6110 704 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1178.6110 (pause 0.51) 1179.1257 705 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1179.1257 I help put them down cause uh, 1181.0531 706 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1181.0531 (pause 0.51) 1181.5636 707 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1181.5636 I work park recreation, now, just like all your Brewster /son/. 1184.5762 708 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1184.5762 (pause 0.83) 1185.4104 709 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1185.4104 But he made all kind of trains and 1187.5594 710 DTA_int_09 1187.7968 Uh-huh. 1188.0910 711 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1188.0910 elephants, 1188.8062 712 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1189.8819 sand pits. 1190.7819 713 DTA_int_09 1191.5458 Uh-huh. 1192.0594 714 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1192.4836 We put out swings for 'em. 1193.9983 715 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1193.9983 (pause 1.66) 1195.6578 716 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1195.6578 And then make a 1197.0133 717 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1197.0133 (pause 0.32) 1197.3295 718 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1197.3295 turtle backs. 1198.1681 719 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1198.1681 (pause 0.39) 1198.5588 720 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1198.5588 Shells at least. 1199.5598 721 DTA_int_09 1200.2579 [Uh-huh.] 1200.6486 722 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1200.5037 [We] put that out in the park ground. 1202.0344 723 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1203.4568 So, I learned a lot a since I've been here in Michigan, you know, by working, going around with the city, 1207.8895 724 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1207.8895 (pause 0.11) 1207.9970 725 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1207.9970 with park recreation. 1208.9227 726 DTA_int_09 1209.1203 Yeah. 1209.6252 727 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1209.7393 I learned most of that since I've been here. 1211.8862 728 DTA_int_09 1212.6354 Do you like that job? 1213.5530 729 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1214.0052 Well, I liked pretty well, that's the las- 1215.8754 730 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1215.8754 (pause 0.38) 1216.2535 731 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1216.2535 last job I done since I've been here. 1218.0316 732 DTA_int_09 1218.4519 Uh-huh. 1218.9788 733 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1220.1215 Let's see, little job I had, I can just work at the laundry, but it didn't last over two years, before they had tore it down. And the building the Chrysler expressway on it. 1227.1448 734 DTA_int_09 1228.1738 Uh-huh. And you worked on that? 1229.4119 735 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1230.1871 No, I didn't work on the Expressway. I worked at the laundry. 1232.6637 736 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1232.6637 (pause 0.22) 1232.8788 737 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1232.8788 They said that the- that the building was on a place where they was gonna tear down. 1236.2857 738 DTA_int_09 1236.2155 [Oh.] I see. Yeah. 1237.1638 739 DTA_int_09 1237.9848 Uh. 1238.4721 740 DTA_int_09 1238.4721 (pause 1.31) 1239.7789 741 DTA_int_09 1239.7789 What's do the kids do after school's out? 1241.5042 742 DTA_int_09 1241.5042 (pause 1.42) 1242.9267 743 DTA_int_09 1242.9267 Your kids. 1243.5326 744 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1244.0069 Well, just the first year, they got here, going to school out there, going to Catholic School and down to YMCA downtown here. 1250.7490 745 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1250.7490 (pause 1.00) 1251.7500 746 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1251.7500 The lady come here and asked me, did uh, did yo- you want them in a program? 1255.4142 747 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1255.4142 (pause 1.19) 1256.6029 748 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1256.6029 I told 'em, yeah, any kind of program doing to keep 'em out of there /man/, I rather seen 'em go and tryna learn something to be running around this house be fighting all the time or be into something. 1264.7210 749 DTA_int_09 1264.9230 Yeah. 1265.3313 750 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1265.3576 Well, that be better on them, going swimming, learning how to make things, 1269.3901 751 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1269.3901 (pause 0.22) 1269.6096 752 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1269.6096 dresses, 1270.1221 753 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1270.1221 (pause 0.60) 1270.7192 754 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1270.7192 the girls. 1271.5007 755 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1271.5007 (pause 1.20) 1272.6992 756 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1272.6992 And I said, the boys, they get up some /side/, I reckon they gonna have something to learn, but the girl, I wanted her to 1277.5455 757 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1277.5455 (pause 0.65) 1278.1915 758 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1278.1915 go around and learn about the city anyway. I'm glad the lady did come, you know, 1282.0506 759 DTA_int_09 1282.4984 Uh-huh. 1282.9725 760 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1283.2695 and asked me ge- did she- if they wanted to join the program. I told her, I'll be glad for 'em to go, they didn't wanna go, but I told 'em they're going anyhow. 1289.3764 761 DTA_int_09 1289.7716 Uh-huh. What [program did /inaudible/] 1291.3624 762 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1290.6584 [But after,] they 1291.8278 763 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1292.1790 learned- after they went and joined the program, learned how to 1294.9625 764 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1294.9625 (pause 0.19) 1295.1557 765 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1295.1557 you know, 1295.6386 766 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1295.6386 (pause 0.57) 1296.2060 767 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1296.2060 go- it's some kind of Catholic school down here. 1298.3836 768 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1298.3836 (pause 0.65) 1299.0377 769 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1299.0377 Let's see here, just- I reckon you might know the lady cause, uh, 1302.5582 770 DTA_int_09 1303.1492 Uh-huh. 1303.6102 771 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1303.7024 it's downtown here where this place is. And I got her name in my pocket book here, she told me any time- 1309.2528 772 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1309.2528 (pause 0.50) 1309.7489 773 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1309.7489 any time that they uh 1311.0116 774 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1311.0116 (pause 2.41) 1313.4263 775 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1313.4263 want something done or want something for the children, told me to call 'em. 1316.2213 776 DTA_int_09 1316.6253 Oh, that's nice. 1317.3500 777 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1318.1180 And so that's- 1318.9872 778 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1318.9872 (pause 1.12) 1320.1115 779 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1320.1115 See, this is her name here. 1321.6195 780 DTA_int_09 1321.6590 Oh. 1322.2342 781 DTA_int_09 1322.2342 (pause 1.73) 1323.9639 782 DTA_int_09 1323.9639 That's where /RD-NAME-4/. 1325.5181 783 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1325.6487 That's down- that's- see she works downtown [there somewhere.] 1328.8229 784 DTA_int_09 1327.9009 [Huh. Very good.] 1328.8229 785 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1329.6043 And I say, oh that's why they go to s- 1331.1689 786 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1331.1689 (pause 0.28) 1331.4482 787 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1331.4482 school every morning. In the evening, they go to the YMCA or whatever it is. 1335.1728 788 DTA_int_09 1335.4977 [Uh-huh.] 1335.8006 789 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1335.5504 [So, that's] swimming lessons and they're taking, I told 'em thats's good. 1338.7278 790 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1339.0922 You can't never tell when you allowed to jump in a flood and have to swim. 1341.9502 791 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1341.9502 (pause 0.31) 1342.2649 792 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1342.2649 Told her that's something I didn't hardly learn good. 1344.4104 793 DTA_int_09 1345.2283 Uh-huh. 1345.6761 794 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1346.3500 I say, all of the enjoyment to you. 1348.4173 795 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1348.4173 (pause 0.68) 1349.0978 796 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1349.0978 I said, ask me when you have these schools and things built more organized more people and more kids, here 1354.0983 797 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1354.0983 (pause 0.44) 1354.5335 798 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1354.5335 round here and they having more school built so the kids can have a chance to learn something [bef-] 1358.6927 799 DTA_int_09 1358.2932 [Yeah.] 1358.4995 800 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1359.4105 While before they get grown. 1360.7715 801 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1360.7715 (pause 0.27) 1361.0393 802 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1361.0393 And then they get up something /?/ grown, they know how to take care of they own self. 1364.0287 803 DTA_int_09 1364.2985 [Uh-huh.] 1364.6936 804 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1364.6146 [I] said they won't be like 1365.8395 805 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1366.0985 the peoples come back before town. They didn't have that chance to learn nothing. 1370.0130 806 DTA_int_09 1370.4415 Yeah. That's true. 1371.3196 807 DTA_int_09 1371.3196 (pause 0.60) 1371.9167 808 DTA_int_09 1371.9167 Uh. How about the- when you were in school, did you ever have a teacher hollered a lot? 1375.5194 809 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1376.2032 Oh, well, I wouldn't say I was the goodest one in te- in school, but I was- 1380.7105 810 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1380.7105 (pause 0.63) 1381.3427 811 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1381.3427 I had my potion, a part of badness in me though. 1384.0495 812 DTA_int_09 1384.1872 Yeah, what [/inaudible/] 1384.9905 813 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1384.6175 [If I] was always doing them, man if I didn't have a piece of rubber shooting somebody in the back of the head with it, I was painting 'em or sticking 'em. 1390.6881 814 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1391.3642 And so. 1392.0798 815 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1392.0798 (pause 0.69) 1392.7735 816 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1392.7735 I won't say I was the goodest in school. 1394.7228 817 DTA_int_09 1394.9553 Uh-huh. 1395.4031 818 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1395.5041 I had my potion of badness in there alright. 1397.7343 819 DTA_int_09 1398.7441 Yeah, we all do. 1399.5607 820 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1400.0085 1400.4388 821 DTA_int_09 1400.7665 Huh. 1401.0387 822 DTA_int_09 1401.0387 (pause 0.32) 1401.3636 823 DTA_int_09 1401.3636 Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had? 1403.5236 824 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1407.7472 Well, I couldn't remember them teachers's name now, it's been so long. 1410.7529 825 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1410.7529 (pause 0.76) 1411.5080 826 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1411.5080 [I couldn't remember] that now, and I- ooh, good gracious /?/. 1414.5621 827 DTA_int_09 1411.5674 [Yeah.] 1411.8967 828 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1416.8577 Yeah, when I was in Memphis, going to school that was in nineteen and 1420.0958 829 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1420.0958 (pause 0.52) 1420.6158 830 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1420.6158 twenty-six. 1421.4357 831 DTA_int_09 1422.5989 [/inaudible/] 1423.1826 832 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1422.9236 [That's] pretty good far back, that's a long time for me to remember back [about everything.] 1426.9743 833 DTA_int_09 1426.2411 [Oh, yeah.] 1426.8557 834 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1427.5362 Cause I wasn't over 1428.5284 835 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1428.5284 (pause 0.17) 1428.6953 836 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1428.6953 five or six years old then myself. 1430.8582 837 DTA_int_09 1433.5406 Did you ever have teachers you couldn't stand? 1435.2698 838 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1435.9328 Oh. 1436.1303 839 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1436.1303 (pause 0.24) 1436.3674 840 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1436.3674 What'd you say? 1436.8635 841 DTA_int_09 1436.9425 Ye- did you ever have [teachers you couldn't stand?] 1438.9869 842 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1437.9332 [Oh, well], no, but I said 1440.9230 843 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1441.7264 they made me stand one foot too much in the corner, well, if I wasn't standing on one foot, they had my head down in the corner 1447.2801 844 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1447.2801 (pause 0.51) 1447.7938 845 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1447.7938 cause I done a lot of /dumb there/. 1449.2777 846 DTA_int_09 1449.6245 Uh-huh. 1450.1250 847 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1450.8280 I wasn't doing things right in school. And I know I was asking for- getting my punishment for it. 1455.3060 848 DTA_int_09 1455.8548 Yeah. 1456.1841 849 DTA_int_09 1456.1841 (pause 0.97) 1457.1572 850 DTA_int_09 1457.1572 How did they punish the kids down there? 1458.8080 851 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1459.5631 Oh, well, some of 'em they whoop 'em, then some of 'em, they make 'em stand up in the corner and some of 'em 1464.0704 852 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1464.0704 (pause 1.80) 1465.8704 853 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1465.8704 they gonna go and turn them 1467.1129 854 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1467.1129 (pause 0.18) 1467.2885 855 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1467.2885 face to the wall, 1468.5661 856 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1468.5661 (pause 0.28) 1468.8455 857 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1468.8455 stand up on [one foot.] 1470.1011 858 DTA_int_09 1469.6473 [Uh-huh.] 1470.1653 859 DTA_int_09 1473.0673 Pretty good. 1473.6995 860 DTA_int_09 1473.6995 (pause 0.30) 1473.9981 861 DTA_int_09 1473.9981 Uh. 1474.5146 862 DTA_int_09 1474.5146 (pause 0.61) 1475.1248 863 DTA_int_09 1475.1248 Do you remember the smartest kid in your class? 1476.7493 864 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1477.4517 What do you say? 1477.9259 865 DTA_int_09 1478.0488 Do you remember who was the smartest [kid in the-] 1479.7961 866 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1479.6644 [Well,] no, I couldn't remember that, cause, just like I foretold you, that's been so lon- far back when I was going to school and 1486.1868 867 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1489.3376 I /nary/ couldn't remember all of them and who was the smartest, cause I don't s- 1492.7488 868 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1492.7488 (pause 0.53) 1493.2741 869 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1493.2741 I wouldn't know none- none of them children now if I was to meet some of 'em. 1496.7381 870 DTA_int_09 1497.0992 Yeah. 1497.4196 871 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1497.4196 Cause I ain't been around, cause after I left from down there and went over in the 1500.3216 872 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1501.2787 Arkansas, I stayed around over there, different people I know there from there to Mississippi. 1505.2815 873 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1505.2815 (pause 0.77) 1506.0498 874 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1506.0498 After I left M- 1506.8971 875 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1506.8971 (pause 0.32) 1507.2220 876 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1507.2220 drive from Mississippi will come up here. 1508.8186 877 DTA_int_09 1509.2060 [Uh-huh.] 1509.7778 878 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1509.3421 [I stayed] mostly in Mississippi in my life down there. 1511.7540 879 DTA_int_09 1512.1623 Yeah. 1512.4872 880 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1512.9225 Farming and going on til I come to Michigan here in fifty-two. 1515.8200 881 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1515.8200 (pause 0.60) 1516.4208 882 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1516.4208 I'm- 1516.7837 883 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1516.7837 (pause 0.16) 1516.9418 884 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1516.9418 I meant to say fifty-four. 1518.0202 885 DTA_int_09 1518.9772 Uh. Is there people, or a group of people you go around with around here? 1522.4001 886 DTA_int_09 1522.4001 (pause 0.20) 1522.5977 887 DTA_int_09 1522.5977 Have a group of friends here in the projects or where- [anywhere?] 1525.5260 888 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1525.2319 [Oh] well yeah, yeah. 1526.9194 889 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1527.3672 It's a friend out, down /?/ down out a while ago. 1529.3960 890 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1529.3960 (pause 0.48) 1529.8746 891 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1529.8746 Me and him looking on the TV /??/. 1531.6351 892 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1531.6351 (pause 0.22) 1531.8502 893 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1531.8502 I don't know if we was fixing it or messing it up, but we were looking it over 1536.0774 894 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1536.0774 (pause 2.49) 1538.5696 895 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1538.5696 And so, his wife, just a while ago told me say some white people that- so I was kind of wondering, who was it. 1543.7545 896 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1543.7545 (pause 0.80) 1544.5536 897 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1544.5536 And then they come to me about the lady who had come here on last Tuesday, I believe it was. Say somebody be here Wednesday, but I had forgot all about it. 1551.0381 898 DTA_int_09 1551.2928 Oh, is that right? 1551.9513 899 DTA_int_09 1551.9513 (pause 1.78) 1553.7280 900 DTA_int_09 1553.7280 Well, that's okay. 1554.5219 901 DTA_int_09 1554.5219 (pause 0.60) 1555.1196 902 DTA_int_09 1555.1196 Uh. 1555.5630 903 DTA_int_09 1555.5630 (pause 0.33) 1555.8966 904 DTA_int_09 1555.8966 How about are there any of them, of your friends that you know now, if there's anybody that speaks any other languages like Spanish or anything? 1562.0485 905 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1562.4876 Well, not- 1563.3782 906 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1563.3782 (pause 2.16) 1565.5338 907 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1565.5338 not as I know. Though, I know the lady that's name is /RD-NAME-2/, she said she had been 1571.1726 908 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1571.1726 (pause 0.60) 1571.7685 909 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1571.7685 around 1572.6407 910 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1572.6407 (pause 0.16) 1572.7966 911 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1572.7966 she had been a while- she'd been over on Germany and all them different place, she can talk 1576.7339 912 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1576.7339 (pause 0.54) 1577.2695 913 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1577.2695 this kind of language there. 1578.3891 914 DTA_int_09 1578.6525 Uh-huh. 1579.2320 915 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1580.5300 And I never could talk none like that. Now, 1582.6286 916 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1582.6286 (pause 0.83) 1583.4583 917 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1583.4583 I got a 1584.3276 918 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1584.3276 (pause 1.09) 1585.4208 919 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1585.4208 step-son now, he can talk that kind of stuff. 1587.6331 920 DTA_int_09 1588.5901 Yeah. 1588.9573 921 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1589.2119 I notice him talking that kind of junk. Uh, sometime I asked him what it is he saying? 1592.9366 922 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1592.9366 (pause 0.39) 1593.3274 923 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1593.3274 I be wanting to know is he cussing me out. [] 1596.3457 924 DTA_int_09 1595.3815 [Is that right?] 1595.8233 925 DTA_int_09 1596.7304 How about there any white friends? 1598.1388 926 DTA_int_09 1598.1388 (pause 0.22) 1598.3624 927 DTA_int_09 1598.3624 White people that get around? 1599.6720 928 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1600.3349 Oh, well. 1601.2174 929 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1601.2174 (pause 0.22) 1601.4325 930 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1601.4325 No more than the man I trade over to the store with now. 1603.8516 931 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1603.8516 (pause 0.37) 1604.2188 932 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1604.2188 [I think] that he can talk- they talks that kind of language too. 1607.1252 933 DTA_int_09 1604.2785 [Uh-huh.] 1604.5296 934 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1607.2866 And then they can talk plain language like me, and then they- 1609.6145 935 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1609.6145 (pause 0.36) 1609.9745 936 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1609.9745 they talk with one another, and you can not understand 'em 1612.2278 937 DTA_int_09 1612.3463 [Is that right?] 1613.0043 938 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1612.5653 [I just stand] up and look at 'em. 1613.7638 939 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1615.0941 I'm wondering what they saying. I know they- I understand, well ya- when y'all get through talking, y'all can wait on.. 1620.7341 940 DTA_int_09 1622.6224 Uh-huh. What did you want to do when you finished school when you were younger? 1625.6649 941 DTA_int_09 1625.6649 (pause 0.22) 1625.8888 942 DTA_int_09 1625.8888 Did you have any idea? 1626.8092 943 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1626.8092 Oh well, none that I did. I said I always wanted to be a mechanic. 1630.4532 944 DTA_int_09 1631.4542 Mm-hm. 1631.8317 945 DTA_int_09 1631.8317 (pause 0.29) 1632.1215 946 DTA_int_09 1632.1215 [What's-] 1632.4141 947 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1632.3087 [And] if I ever went to 1633.5907 948 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1634.0297 you know, ch- uh, go- went to school to finish, I wanted to be a mechanic. 1637.1820 949 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1637.1820 (pause 0.26) 1637.4454 950 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1637.4454 A car mechanic. 1638.2912 951 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1638.2912 (pause 0.60) 1638.8901 952 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1638.8901 Fix cars. 1639.5662 953 DTA_int_09 1639.8573 Uh-huh. 1640.1194 954 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1641.5784 Learn how to work on cars. 1642.8165 955 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1642.8165 (pause 0.14) 1642.9526 956 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1642.9526 And that's the biggest of /hard work/ I do now. 1644.7871 957 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1644.7871 (pause 1.67) 1646.4560 958 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1646.4560 Most of what I do right now is 1648.1594 959 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1648.1594 (pause 1.88) 1650.0369 960 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1650.0369 messing around with old pieces of cars if I ain't fooling with 1652.4692 961 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1652.4692 (pause 1.13) 1653.6019 962 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1653.6019 radios or television. 1655.5050 963 DTA_int_09 1655.5050 Yeah. 1655.8123 964 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1656.4518 /?/ like this here /unintelligible/ I 1658.1377 965 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1658.1377 (pause 0.39) 1658.5284 966 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1658.5284 played my record player now 1660.0518 967 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1660.0518 (pause 0.56) 1660.6094 968 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1660.6094 I got music all in here. 1661.9748 969 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1661.9748 (pause 0.79) 1662.7657 970 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1662.7657 I can hook it up and hear music all over the house. 1665.0991 971 DTA_int_09 1667.0353 Uh. 1667.6016 972 DTA_int_09 1667.6016 (pause 0.57) 1668.1680 973 DTA_int_09 1668.1680 How about if you could do it all over? What would be- 1670.5871 974 DTA_int_09 1670.5871 (pause 0.37) 1670.9529 975 DTA_int_09 1670.9529 what would you wanna be? 1671.7665 976 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1672.7675 What's that? 1673.2153 977 DTA_int_09 1673.4216 If you could do it all over, 1674.7591 978 DTA_int_09 1674.7591 (pause 0.32) 1675.0840 979 DTA_int_09 1675.0840 you know, if- if you could start anew, what would you wanna be now? Same thing? 1678.3056 980 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1679.0309 Well, that's my biggest /??/ I wants 1680.8002 981 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1680.8002 (pause 1.40) 1682.2035 982 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1682.2035 was, was mechanic 1683.4592 983 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1683.4592 (pause 0.15) 1683.6081 984 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1683.6081 it's two 1684.0167 985 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1684.0167 (pause 0.42) 1684.4382 986 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1684.4382 two things that I said I wanted, since I've been in Michigan, mechanic and driver's license. 1688.1860 987 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1688.1860 (pause 0.72) 1688.9104 988 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1688.9104 That's my whole wish. Now I said I- 1690.9079 989 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1690.9079 (pause 0.85) 1691.7553 990 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1691.7553 Else I 1692.3480 991 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1692.3480 (pause 0.22) 1692.5631 992 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1692.5631 feel like like I did and didn't get no job, I 1694.5460 993 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1694.5460 (pause 0.69) 1695.2352 994 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1695.2352 wanna try to work, and get- oh, somebody told me if I get a lawyer, I could get a driver's license. 1699.3456 995 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1699.3456 (pause 0.57) 1699.9120 996 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1699.9120 Well, the school tell me 1701.1961 997 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1701.1961 (pause 0.82) 1702.0127 998 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1702.0127 said, the /times/ now, they can't get them. 1704.2266 999 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1704.2266 (pause 0.10) 1704.3305 1000 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1704.3305 Said you have to school. 1705.5710 1001 DTA_int_09 1706.0847 Yeah. 1706.4754 1002 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1706.5105 And so, now, made up my mind to try to go to school, I don't know how I'm'a come out with it. 1711.6592 1003 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1711.6592 (pause 0.99) 1712.6470 1004 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1712.6470 They carried me through all /tests/, I think that's what it is. 1715.0704 1005 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1715.0704 (pause 0.19) 1715.2570 1006 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1715.2570 And, but I asked him, 1716.2887 1007 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1716.2887 (pause 0.93) 1717.2151 1008 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1717.2151 I wonder how come it costed so much, 1719.3033 1009 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1719.3033 (pause 0.22) 1719.5272 1010 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1719.5272 a hundred and ninety-five dollars for 1721.4590 1011 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1721.4590 (pause 1.15) 1722.6092 1012 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1722.6092 get the las- your license, and she said, well, we guarantee your money 1726.3217 1013 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1726.3217 (pause 0.39) 1726.7125 1014 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1726.7125 or your license, either one you want. 1728.1865 1015 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1728.1865 (pause 1.11) 1729.2972 1016 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1729.2972 I said, well, 1730.3202 1017 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1730.3202 (pause 0.60) 1730.9172 1018 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1730.9172 so, that sounds alright, if I can get the license, I don't care, I just told 'em, I don't care if I pay a thousand dollars for license, I would like to have one, /I wanted just that day./ 1738.8665 1019 DTA_int_09 1739.2118 Uh-huh. 1739.6728 1020 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1740.4082 Cause I want to, you know, get something to carry my kids around. 1743.5319 1021 DTA_int_09 1743.6372 Yeah. 1744.1992 1022 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1744.3748 Poor thing. 1745.6584 1023 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1745.6584 (pause 0.19) 1745.8516 1024 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1745.8516 Do not be scared to drive, only cause I didn't have a license. 1748.7695 1025 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1748.7695 (pause 0.33) 1749.1031 1026 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1749.1031 I done owned 1749.8495 1027 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1749.8495 (pause 0.30) 1750.1480 1028 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1750.1480 two cars since I've been here in Michigan. 1751.6041 1029 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1751.6041 (pause 0.40) 1752.0036 1030 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1752.0036 Got put up once and so 1753.8080 1031 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1753.8080 (pause 0.58) 1754.3919 1032 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1754.3919 I wouldn't risk it no more. 1756.1129 1033 DTA_int_09 1756.1568 Uh-huh. 1756.5695 1034 DTA_int_09 1756.5695 (pause 0.94) 1757.5119 1035 DTA_int_09 1757.5119 Um. 1757.9509 1036 DTA_int_09 1757.9509 (pause 0.94) 1758.8948 1037 DTA_int_09 1758.8948 Can you tell me what you do? And uh, what you do in your work in a daily, uh, regular day? 1763.6270 1038 DTA_int_09 1763.6270 (pause 0.18) 1763.8026 1039 DTA_int_09 1763.8026 Do you work around the house here [a lot?] 1765.7617 1040 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1765.0933 [Oh, big. My] job is here is cooking and cleaning up this house and washing. 1768.4837 1041 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1768.7691 [In here.] 1770.2634 1042 DTA_int_09 1769.3502 [Is that right?] 1769.8770 1043 DTA_int_09 1771.4279 Uh-huh. 1771.8625 1044 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1771.8625 And that's the biggest doing around here, and trying to keep them /little ?/. That's one of my daughters there. 1776.1644 1045 DTA_int_09 1777.0184 Uh-huh. 1777.4092 1046 misc 1777.4092 Come on, let's play. Let's play some [picking /?/.] 1779.4912 1047 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1779.0088 [Now, she] go down town to the Catholic School. 1781.7468 1048 DTA_int_09 1782.0585 Uh-huh. 1782.7258 1049 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1783.6697 Alright, here. 1784.8859 1050 DTA_int_09 1788.3799 Okay, uh. Good. Uh. Do you know what they call this part of town here? 1791.4970 1051 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1792.8055 What'd you say? 1793.3542 1052 DTA_int_09 1793.5650 Uh, yeah, do you know what they call this part of town here? Any name for this part of town? 1797.4767 1053 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1798.8728 No, all I know is Detroit, Michigan here /??/ one. 1802.5811 1054 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1802.5811 (pause 0.27) 1802.8533 1055 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1802.8533 This here is the 1803.7753 1056 DTA_int_09 1805.4860 Say, could you girls possibly play some [place else?] 1807.7426 1057 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1807.5406 [Go] outdoors, uh, will you? 1808.8445 1058 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1809.2440 I told y'all go outdoors. 1810.6358 1059 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1810.6358 (pause 1.22) 1811.8547 1060 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1811.8547 I think I tell go on, go outdoor. 1813.1817 1061 DTA_int_09 1814.5998 Uh. 1814.9246 1062 DTA_int_09 1814.9246 (pause 0.18) 1815.1090 1063 DTA_int_09 1815.1090 How about this city. What's this city called? 1817.0464 1064 DTA_int_09 1817.0464 (pause 2.13) 1819.1740 1065 DTA_int_09 1819.1740 City of what? 1820.0651 1066 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1820.4604 City of Detroit. 1821.3121 1067 DTA_int_09 1821.5009 Yeah. 1821.7687 1068 DTA_int_09 1821.7687 (pause 0.78) 1822.5530 1069 DTA_int_09 1822.5530 Uh. Can you think of some of the big streets in Detroit? 1825.2399 1070 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1827.9384 Well. N- 1829.1150 1071 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1829.1150 (pause 2.90) 1832.0170 1072 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1832.0170 I can't really tell you 1833.2693 1073 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1833.2693 (pause 0.18) 1833.4449 1074 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1833.4449 about the longest name I sees in uh, Detroit with a street- just a street name. 1838.1177 1075 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1838.1177 (pause 0.27) 1838.3837 1076 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1838.3837 Oh, the bigger the street name is Woodward Avenue. 1840.8661 1077 DTA_int_09 1841.1558 Uh-huh. 1841.4324 1078 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1841.4324 That's the mains /?/ street. 1843.1929 1079 DTA_int_09 1843.8120 Yeah. 1844.2943 1080 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1844.5050 And that divided 1845.5148 1081 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1845.5148 (pause 0.38) 1845.8924 1082 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1845.8924 I reckon cause they said this here's the East Side, 1848.7142 1083 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1848.7142 (pause 0.42) 1849.1357 1084 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1849.1357 and cross Woodward is the West Side. 1850.8347 1085 DTA_int_09 1851.3133 Uh-huh. 1851.8225 1086 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1852.7977 Well, that must be the biggest street 1854.4923 1087 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1854.4923 (pause 0.51) 1855.0016 1088 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1855.0016 [dividing] 1855.8577 1089 DTA_int_09 1855.0016 [Yeah.] 1855.2556 1090 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1856.6571 of the city. 1857.3806 1091 DTA_int_09 1860.1069 Good. Uh. Any other streets you can think of? Any that begin with a Liver- Livermore? 1864.4962 1092 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1865.5850 Well, don't know it, uh. 1867.6002 1093 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1867.6002 (pause 0.48) 1868.0787 1094 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1868.0787 [See.] 1868.7674 1095 DTA_int_09 1868.4080 [How about] these, uh, you mentioned Expressway before. 1871.0548 1096 DTA_int_09 1871.6112 Anything else you can call an expressway? 1873.8678 1097 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1875.0301 What do you mean by call an expressway? 1876.6765 1098 DTA_int_09 1876.8126 Yeah. Remember, you mentioned [Expressway.] 1878.4737 1099 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1878.2850 [What] are you talking about? Chrysler? 1879.1147 1100 DTA_int_09 1879.5669 Yeah. 1879.9181 1101 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1880.0016 Well, that's just lately pull up through here. 1882.0051 1102 DTA_int_09 1882.2791 Uh-huh. 1882.7840 1103 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1883.2888 Well, the Ford Expressway, that's been up a good while I reckon. 1886.7105 1104 DTA_int_09 1887.0837 [/unintelligible/] 1887.5271 1105 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1887.1258 [Cause that's] when I come here. 1888.3597 1106 DTA_int_09 1888.7154 Huh. 1889.0797 1107 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1890.0632 [And the-] 1890.4407 1108 DTA_int_09 1890.0632 [Any other] expressways? 1891.4419 1109 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1895.1149 I hear tell of some more, but I don't know exactly the name of 'em. 1898.0651 1110 DTA_int_09 1898.3194 Uh-huh. 1898.7891 1111 DTA_int_09 1898.7891 (pause 0.81) 1899.6002 1112 DTA_int_09 1899.6002 Okay, good though. 1900.5266 1113 DTA_int_09 1900.5266 (pause 0.47) 1900.9963 1114 DTA_int_09 1900.9963 Uh. 1901.4880 1115 DTA_int_09 1901.4880 (pause 0.38) 1901.8656 1116 DTA_int_09 1901.8656 Where were you born? 1902.7217 1117 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1903.8851 Where was I born at? 1904.7895 1118 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1904.7895 (pause 0.14) 1904.9256 1119 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1904.9256 Memphis Tennessee . 1905.7730 1120 DTA_int_09 1906.1446 Uh-huh. 1906.6846 1121 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1906.9919 I was born nineteen eighteen July the thirteenth. 1909.0905 1122 DTA_int_09 1907.0050 [/inaudible/] 1907.3284 1123 DTA_int_09 1909.5164 Is that right. 1910.0564 1124 DTA_int_09 1910.0564 (pause 0.67) 1910.7281 1125 DTA_int_09 1910.7281 Uh. Where else have you lived in Detroit? Any place else? 1913.3124 1126 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1913.4310 Well, I used to live on /RD-ADDRESS-6/. 1915.5032 1127 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1915.5032 (pause 0.21) 1915.7095 1128 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1915.7095 [/RD-ADDRESS-4/] 1916.6710 1129 DTA_int_09 1915.7095 [Uh-huh.] 1916.0941 1130 DTA_int_09 1917.0134 [Yeah.] 1917.3954 1131 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1917.2110 [After] I moved from there, I moved over here in the projects over here on Hastings, used to be Hastings, but it's Chrysler now. 1921.8720 1132 DTA_int_09 1922.0695 Uh-huh. 1922.4603 1133 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1923.3559 /RD-ADDRESS-4/. 1924.2032 1134 DTA_int_09 1924.6583 Have you ever lived any place else outside of Detroit? 1927.2610 1135 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1927.3583 No, i- 1927.7798 1136 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1927.7798 (pause 0.26) 1928.0432 1137 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1928.0432 not di- not since I've been here in Detroit. 1930.2332 1138 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1930.2332 (pause 0.15) 1930.3788 1139 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1930.3788 That's the only two places I've been. 1931.9568 1140 DTA_int_09 1932.6565 How about, where have you gone on trips? 1934.0376 1141 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1935.2286 Well, I ain't never been on no trips since I've been here in Michigan. 1937.6514 1142 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1937.6514 (pause 0.23) 1937.8841 1143 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1937.8841 No more- went over to Canada with uh, 1939.8246 1144 DTA_int_09 1940.3734 Uh-huh. 1940.7290 1145 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1940.7290 saw my friend- boys fishing. 1942.2865 1146 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1943.7221 Going over there with them fishing. 1945.1198 1147 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1945.1198 (pause 0.34) 1945.4579 1148 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1945.4579 Talking about, that's as far as I've been since I've been here in Michigan. 1948.3071 1149 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1948.3071 (pause 2.26) 1950.5632 1150 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1950.5632 Yeah, the years I've been out /Ionia/. 1952.2074 1151 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1952.2074 (pause 0.58) 1952.7863 1152 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1952.7863 /Ionia/. 1953.3922 1153 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1953.3922 (pause 1.03) 1954.4237 1154 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1954.4237 Yeah, went out to /Ionia/ with my mother-in-law 1956.2573 1155 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1956.2573 (pause 0.17) 1956.4242 1156 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1956.4242 to see her husband. 1957.2671 1157 DTA_int_09 1957.4954 Uh-huh. 1957.8686 1158 DTA_int_09 1957.8686 (pause 0.67) 1958.5403 1159 DTA_int_09 1958.5403 Uh. How about uh, 1959.9803 1160 DTA_int_09 1959.9803 (pause 0.18) 1960.1588 1161 DTA_int_09 1960.1588 holidays, do you have any holidays around here? 1962.1125 1162 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1963.0871 Well, [yeah. The Fourth] of July and the, uh. 1966.6575 1163 DTA_int_09 1963.4691 [What holidays?] 1964.4997 1164 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1970.5440 Thirtieth of May. 1971.5318 1165 DTA_int_09 1972.6601 Uh-huh. 1973.0771 1166 DTA_int_09 1973.0771 (pause 0.25) 1973.3274 1167 DTA_int_09 1973.3274 How about that holiday around the thirty-first of October, do you know what they celebrate then? 1977.3737 1168 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1977.8610 That's /unintelligible/ Day ain't it? 1978.9762 1169 DTA_int_09 1979.4915 This is when the- 1980.3212 1170 DTA_int_09 1980.3212 (pause 0.57) 1980.8925 1171 DTA_int_09 1980.8925 when the ladies fly on the brooms. 1982.5608 1172 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1984.0915 Lady fly on a broom? 1985.3954 1173 DTA_int_09 1985.5359 [Yeah.] 1985.8784 1174 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1985.7071 [I] don't know about that. 1987.2613 1175 DTA_int_09 1987.2613 When the kids dress up and go around to the different houses and knock on the doors. 1991.1176 1176 DTA_int_09 1991.1176 (pause 0.59) 1991.7119 1177 DTA_int_09 1991.7119 What do you call that? 1992.4802 1178 DTA_int_09 1992.4802 (pause 1.01) 1993.4861 1179 DTA_int_09 1993.4861 And they ask for food. 1994.6803 1180 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1994.9174 Oh, you're talking about Halloween Night. 1996.4129 1181 DTA_int_09 1996.4876 Yeah. 1996.9398 1182 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1997.0276 Oh. [] 1998.2086 1183 DTA_int_09 1997.7871 [What are] those ladies who fly on the brooms? 1999.6927 1184 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 1999.9822 Huh? 2000.3378 1185 DTA_int_09 2000.5749 What are those ladies called that fly on the brooms? 2002.5227 1186 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2002.5139 Witches. 2002.9354 1187 DTA_int_09 2003.8916 [How about] those things they put in the window? They carve them out with faces, you know. 2007.6209 1188 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2003.9846 [Yeah.] 2004.2920 1189 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2008.2706 Talking about the pumpkins? 2009.1794 1190 DTA_int_09 2009.3243 Yeah. 2009.6552 1191 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2009.8336 Yeah, well I raised a-many of them all I know is that- 2012.3448 1192 DTA_int_09 2012.9463 [Is that right?] 2013.4204 1193 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2013.3150 [Now] I plowed the ground planting many pumpkin seeds, 2015.8614 1194 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2016.4761 watermelon, 2017.1506 1195 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2017.1506 (pause 0.36) 2017.5150 1196 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2017.5150 cantaloupe, 2018.0638 1197 DTA_int_09 2019.4994 Huh. 2019.7453 1198 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2020.6980 cabbage, 2021.3038 1199 DTA_int_09 2021.8043 Is that right? 2022.2949 1200 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2022.4453 okra. 2022.9277 1201 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2022.9277 (pause 0.68) 2023.6126 1202 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2023.6126 I planted all that stuff like that when I was in the South. 2026.3499 1203 DTA_int_09 2026.8421 Oh, what's that /?/? 2027.8388 1204 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2027.7987 I had to break up ground and plant all that every year. 2030.4400 1205 DTA_int_09 2030.6946 Uh-huh. 2031.1117 1206 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2031.4058 Fall the year, we uh, 2032.7405 1207 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2032.7405 (pause 0.61) 2033.3487 1208 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2033.3487 plant turnips, for the winter. 2034.8068 1209 DTA_int_09 2035.0658 Yeah. 2035.4873 1210 DTA_int_09 2035.4873 (pause 1.53) 2037.0151 1211 DTA_int_09 2037.0151 What do they uh, 2037.9678 1212 DTA_int_09 2037.9678 (pause 1.11) 2039.0741 1213 DTA_int_09 2039.0741 what do they say when they go around to the 2041.0175 1214 DTA_int_09 2041.0175 (pause 0.19) 2041.2107 1215 DTA_int_09 2041.2107 doors on Halloween? They say anything when they knock on the door? 2043.8712 1216 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2045.8453 Trick or treat. 2046.4468 1217 DTA_int_09 2046.7453 Yeah. 2047.0878 1218 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2047.3731 2048.0053 1219 DTA_int_09 2048.0317 Anything else they say? 2049.1600 1220 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2051.7136 Well, I never did follow my kids around most, because I stayed at home all the time. 2055.3575 1221 DTA_int_09 2055.7219 Mm-hm. 2056.1346 1222 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2056.1346 And so I didn't- 2056.8447 1223 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2058.5739 the biggest, I don't know how- 2060.0666 1224 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2060.0666 (pause 0.96) 2061.0237 1225 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2061.0237 how them kids aks me, I just see them, they go come here, I tell 'em I ain't got nothing, they leave the door. 2065.2149 1226 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2065.2149 (pause 0.66) 2065.8735 1227 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2065.8735 I don't know how mine do it, they leaves here and they come back, they have a bag of candy and [different stuff.] 2070.4432 1228 DTA_int_09 2069.7714 [Yeah.] 2070.1929 1229 DTA_int_09 2070.9085 How about that night before Halloween when they turn over garbage pails and they 2074.4778 1230 DTA_int_09 2074.4778 (pause 0.55) 2075.0251 1231 DTA_int_09 2075.0251 ring doorbells [/inaudible/] 2076.7329 1232 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2075.6178 [Oh, we- we] 2076.7329 1233 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2077.1149 never- we have no trouble with that around here alright. [] 2080.1090 1234 DTA_int_09 2079.6173 [Is that right?] 2080.1969 1235 DTA_int_09 2081.6880 What kinds of things do fights start about around here? 2084.3617 1236 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2085.2398 What'd you say? 2085.6525 1237 DTA_int_09 2085.7710 What kinds of things to fights start about around here? 2088.0595 1238 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2090.6021 Well, the- these kids is interested mostly about ball and playing. 2094.3514 1239 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2094.3514 (pause 0.79) 2095.1460 1240 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2095.1460 Throwing 2095.9917 1241 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2095.9917 (pause 0.40) 2096.3923 1242 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2096.3923 water maybe, or 2097.9010 1243 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2097.9010 (pause 0.52) 2098.4191 1244 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2098.4191 taking one another's toys or something. 2100.4737 1245 DTA_int_09 2100.7547 [Mm-hm.] 2101.1103 1246 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2100.8513 [Uh.] 2101.2069 1247 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2101.4616 And I didn't growed up around here, what they said, teenagers, they 2104.7312 1248 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2104.7312 (pause 1.83) 2106.5619 1249 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2106.5619 you can't hardly tell what they're talking about, half of the time and when you see them, they done started. Now what it about, I don't know. 2111.9817 1250 DTA_int_09 2112.2407 Uh-huh. 2112.7193 1251 DTA_int_09 2112.7193 (pause 0.25) 2112.9707 1252 DTA_int_09 2112.9707 Are there any rules for fair fights? 2114.7719 1253 DTA_int_09 2114.7719 (pause 1.15) 2115.9216 1254 DTA_int_09 2115.9216 Like, you know, no kicking or anything? 2117.9148 1255 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2119.1045 Mm. Well. 2120.0863 1256 DTA_int_09 2120.6833 Or does anything go? 2121.8292 1257 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2122.6897 I guess they gets anything they get they hand on, I reckon, when they starts. 2125.9238 1258 DTA_int_09 2126.0424 Uh-huh. 2126.5077 1259 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2126.5077 Cause I- that's one thing I never did. 2128.7248 1260 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2129.9193 Some of 'em /wet/. I never was a gambler and neither a whiskey drinker either. 2133.4077 1261 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2133.4077 (pause 0.59) 2134.0004 1262 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2134.0004 Them two things I never done. 2135.3263 1263 DTA_int_09 2135.7023 Uh-huh. 2136.2091 1264 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2136.3355 I never did like it, and so I didn't take up with it. 2138.2145 1265 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2138.2145 (pause 1.70) 2139.9180 1266 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2139.9180 And so, that told me to be out there /tryna do it/ when I get round such crowd like that, I keep moving [cause I know] what it's gonna cause. 2146.9155 1267 DTA_int_09 2145.4620 [Yeah.] 2145.8744 1268 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2148.7359 And so I haven't been locked up but once in my life. And that was 2151.5729 1269 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2151.5729 (pause 0.13) 2151.6999 1270 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2151.6999 since I've been here in Michigan. That was driving without a license. /Ask me and I wish I had some/. 2155.7543 1271 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2155.7543 (pause 0.49) 2156.2460 1272 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2156.2460 And then I was carrying my wife to the hospital then. 2158.4499 1273 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2158.4499 (pause 0.51) 2158.9592 1274 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2158.9592 When he stopped me, he just said it was a routine check. 2161.0221 1275 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2161.0221 (pause 1.08) 2162.0977 1276 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2162.0977 He just pulled me over and asked me 2163.7704 1277 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2163.7704 (pause 0.37) 2164.1436 1278 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2164.1436 about my driver license I told him I didn't have none, I said, just carrying my wife down here to Receiving Hospital. 2168.4296 1279 DTA_int_09 2168.6951 Uh-huh. 2169.1078 1280 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2169.4283 And so he had pulled the car aside and carried me on to jail and carried her to the hospital. 2173.1924 1281 DTA_int_09 2173.6666 [Is that r-] 2174.1978 1282 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2173.8334 [I s-] 2174.1715 1283 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2174.6291 so, I went on out there on house arrest and stayed five days. The judge tell me 2178.2906 1284 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2178.2906 (pause 0.72) 2179.0106 1285 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2179.0106 twenty-five dollar fine or 2180.7433 1286 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2180.7433 (pause 0.26) 2181.0067 1287 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2181.0067 five days in house /incarceration,/ well I couldn't pay cause I was on the welfare. 2184.8306 1288 DTA_int_09 2185.3164 [Uh-huh.] 2185.6457 1289 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2185.4086 [Wasn't working.] 2186.1418 1290 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2186.8662 So, I just put up the five days. 2188.5177 1291 DTA_int_09 2189.3423 How was that? 2189.9262 1292 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2190.2862 Out there at /Jehovah's/. 2191.3624 1293 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2191.3624 (pause 0.61) 2191.9682 1294 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2191.9682 [House arrest.] 2192.6959 1295 DTA_int_09 2192.1691 [Well, what] was that like for five days there? 2193.9691 1296 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2193.9691 Oh, well, I went out there and stayed out there and 2196.7042 1297 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2197.3891 it just like it was down south, they do the same thing like that. 2200.2483 1298 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2200.2483 (pause 0.23) 2200.4738 1299 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2200.4738 Long day, farming, chopping 2201.9577 1300 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2201.9577 (pause 0.70) 2202.6602 1301 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2202.6602 vegetables and 2203.7182 1302 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2203.7182 (pause 0.55) 2204.2670 1303 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2204.2670 milking cows 2205.2740 1304 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2205.2740 (pause 1.13) 2206.4023 1305 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2206.4023 push one thing or another out there, cooking. 2208.4438 1306 DTA_int_09 2208.8274 Huh. 2209.0952 1307 DTA_int_09 2209.0952 (pause 1.06) 2210.1532 1308 DTA_int_09 2210.1532 Uh. 2210.6230 1309 DTA_int_09 2210.6230 (pause 0.18) 2210.8030 1310 DTA_int_09 2210.8030 Did you ever see anybody get beat up real bad? 2212.7523 1311 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2214.0854 Uh, no. I never, I ain't 2215.7888 1312 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2215.7888 (pause 1.01) 2216.7942 1313 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2216.7942 never be lucky enough to get around nothing like that. 2219.1459 1314 DTA_int_09 2219.5586 Uh-huh. 2220.0152 1315 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2220.1469 Never have. 2221.0381 1316 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2221.0381 (pause 0.25) 2221.2883 1317 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2221.2883 I hear- hear tell folks, uh, you know, see people get shot and 2224.7742 1318 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2224.7742 (pause 0.15) 2224.9279 1319 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2224.9279 cut. 2225.2381 1320 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2225.2381 (pause 0.97) 2226.2083 1321 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2226.2083 I just happen to be lucky enough to see none of it. When I see it, it'd be all over with. 2229.9576 1322 DTA_int_09 2230.6584 Yeah. 2231.0711 1323 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2231.2204 I never did chance to be in nothing like that to see it. 2233.8407 1324 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2233.8407 (pause 1.58) 2235.4175 1325 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2235.4175 Every time I look up and see a crowd or something, I know that it'd be over when I get there. 2238.9501 1326 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2238.9501 (pause 0.62) 2239.5656 1327 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2239.5656 Well, I never did heard nothing like that. 2241.1936 1328 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2241.1936 (pause 0.78) 2241.9707 1329 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2241.9707 I tried always did start a bad company in with, ever since I was small, I- 2245.9175 1330 DTA_int_09 2246.1546 Uh-huh. 2246.6375 1331 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2246.8614 after 2247.5682 1332 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2247.5682 (pause 1.13) 2248.7009 1333 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2248.7009 I got up to know what the world was, 2251.1671 1334 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2251.1671 (pause 1.90) 2253.0719 1335 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2253.0719 I tried to steer myself in the right way. 2254.8851 1336 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2254.8851 (pause 1.44) 2256.3229 1337 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2256.3229 So, 2257.0737 1338 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2257.0737 (pause 0.31) 2257.3810 1339 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2257.3810 people here in the state of Michigan, anyway I- he can help my record, 2260.3137 1340 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2260.3137 (pause 0.57) 2260.8817 1341 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2260.8817 can't give 'em nothing. No kind of badness of me. 2263.2568 1342 DTA_int_09 2263.7485 Uh-huh. 2264.0997 1343 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2264.0997 Cause, when I had my wife, they know that I treated her just like a man could treat a woman. 2268.8434 1344 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2269.3922 we never fi- 2270.1298 1345 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2270.1298 (pause 0.28) 2270.4107 1346 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2270.4107 we never fight, I never cussed her, never hit her, never slapped her, nothing. The whole time, thirteen years we were together. 2275.4732 1347 DTA_int_09 2277.0076 That's a pretty good record. 2278.1711 1348 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2278.4169 Mm-hm. 2278.9871 1349 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2278.9871 (pause 0.54) 2279.5227 1350 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2279.5227 That's something I never did believe in. 2280.9671 1351 DTA_int_09 2281.5658 Yeah. 2281.9302 1352 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2282.0707 I figured like this, you cannot raise a woman. 2284.5468 1353 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2284.5468 (pause 1.23) 2285.7761 1354 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2285.7761 If you marry a woman, she's supposed to do just like you say, y'all supposed to get on the same base of agreement. 2290.2132 1355 DTA_int_09 2290.5029 Right. 2290.9419 1356 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2290.9419 If y'all can't do that other /??/. 2292.7843 1357 DTA_int_09 2293.3463 Oh, yeah. 2294.0970 1358 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2294.0970 Alright, you youngsters, y'all- you talking about how you wanted to do your talk, they want to talk with you. So, y'all done made get back here. 2299.9547 1359 misc 2300.7246 What? 2301.0601 1360 DTA_int_09 2301.3333 Too late, we got some substitutes instead. 2303.6744 1361 DTA_int_09 2303.6744 (pause 1.28) 2304.9591 1362 DTA_int_09 2304.9591 So, that's okay. 2305.8986 1363 misc 2306.1784 What? 2306.5005 1364 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2307.4034 Oh, /?/ these are the people y'all was supposed to talk with, you know, the lady left that card. No, you wasn't here. /RD-NAME-3/'s the one was here. 2313.3939 1365 misc 2315.9353 Whatchu doing with the recorder? 2317.1612 1366 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2317.8297 Uh, so you know what it is, don't you? 2320.1098 1367 DTA_int_09 2323.0107 You can stay here and watch, if you can do it. 2325.3173 1368 DTA_int_09 2325.3173 (pause 0.81) 2326.1295 1369 DTA_int_09 2326.1295 Uh. Ha- have [you ever] been in a hospital? 2328.4007 1370 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2327.0761 [Tha-] 2327.4537 1371 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2328.9025 Well, yeah, I was uh, s- 2330.3073 1372 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2330.3073 (pause 0.62) 2330.9308 1373 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2330.9308 in sixty-one or 2331.8249 1374 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2331.8249 (pause 0.21) 2332.0312 1375 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2332.0312 was it sixty-one? Sixty-one or sixty-two, [for a] month. 2335.8576 1376 DTA_int_09 2334.8937 [Uh-huh.] 2335.3590 1377 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2337.4796 Just about a month for operation. 2338.9184 1378 DTA_int_09 2339.4304 Is that right? What for? 2340.2909 1379 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2340.5280 Gall stone, what I was [telling you about.] 2342.1524 1380 DTA_int_09 2341.7617 [Oh yeah.] 2342.2929 1381 DTA_int_09 2345.5188 Uh-huh. 2345.9271 1382 DTA_int_09 2345.9271 (pause 0.30) 2346.2256 1383 DTA_int_09 2346.2256 Good. 2346.5637 1384 DTA_int_09 2346.5637 (pause 0.56) 2347.1257 1385 DTA_int_09 2347.1257 Uh. Have you ever been in an automobile accident? 2349.1474 1386 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2350.2932 Yeah, down south I have. 2351.3562 1387 DTA_int_09 2351.6503 Oh, when was that? 2352.1289 1388 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2352.1289 Well, 2352.7918 1389 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2353.9421 we was driving a car down there and a boy made a curve 2356.8777 1390 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2356.8777 (pause 1.11) 2357.9840 1391 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2357.9840 and he turned too short and about six of 'em, car turned over in a ditch with us, just lucky it didn't kill all- If it hadn't been for the fence, it would have killed us all. But the fence helped us- 2365.2528 1392 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2365.2528 (pause 0.51) 2365.7621 1393 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2365.7621 the poles helped the- the car on top and that's what 2368.3420 1394 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2368.3420 (pause 0.58) 2368.9240 1395 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2368.9240 saved us. 2369.5582 1396 DTA_int_09 2370.0323 Yeah. 2370.3923 1397 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2370.7391 That's first accident. 2371.7357 1398 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2371.7357 (pause 0.29) 2372.0299 1399 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2372.0299 And other than that, that's the accident I've been in that, but I have been in tractor accidents. 2376.4011 1400 DTA_int_09 2376.4011 Yeah. 2376.6996 1401 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2376.8884 A tractor had blowed up with me. 2378.3767 1402 DTA_int_09 2378.7406 Is that right? 2379.3289 1403 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2379.6581 Yeah. 2380.0489 1404 DTA_int_09 2380.3415 [/inaudible/] 2380.6751 1405 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2380.4029 [I s-] it caught a fire and blowed up by me pouring gas in it. 2383.6518 1406 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2384.9469 You know, and it was running and all around the manifold, and hit the manifold, and that made it explode. 2389.0020 1407 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2389.0020 (pause 0.70) 2389.7044 1408 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2389.7044 See and after it explode, it made me burnt this whole leg on this side. 2392.8947 1409 DTA_int_09 2393.1932 Mm, boy. 2393.8649 1410 DTA_int_09 2393.8649 (pause 0.81) 2394.6771 1411 DTA_int_09 2394.6771 Uh. Were you ever in a situation where you ever thought you might be killed or die? 2398.1317 1412 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2399.0677 Well, never, I had never got that 2400.8985 1413 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2400.8985 (pause 0.20) 2401.0945 1414 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2401.0945 thought. 2401.3447 1415 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2401.3447 (pause 0.15) 2401.4956 1416 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2401.4956 I ain't never had that thought in mind about dying. I had been so I couldn't move. 2405.1292 1417 DTA_int_09 2405.3443 Uh-huh. 2405.8404 1418 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2405.9107 But I had never get that up in mind about dying. 2408.8374 1419 DTA_int_09 2409.3643 Yeah. 2409.7331 1420 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2409.9570 That's the last thing I think about. 2411.1775 1421 DTA_int_09 2411.7482 Yeah. 2412.0791 1422 DTA_int_09 2412.0791 (pause 0.85) 2412.9253 1423 DTA_int_09 2412.9253 Good. Okay. 2413.6278 1424 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2413.6278 Last problem I think about, dying. 2416.1313 1425 DTA_int_09 2416.5264 How about, sometimes people say whatever's going to happen is going to happen. What do you think about that? 2421.2092 1426 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2421.4814 Well. 2422.0302 1427 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2422.0302 (pause 0.58) 2422.6053 1428 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2422.6053 They say, uh. 2423.5960 1429 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2423.5960 (pause 0.62) 2424.2173 1430 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2424.2173 Uh. Like I say myself. 2425.8234 1431 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2425.8234 (pause 0.92) 2426.7427 1432 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2426.7427 I look what to come, not what's behind. 2429.1458 1433 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2429.1458 (pause 0.58) 2429.7297 1434 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2429.7297 Cause what's gonna happen, it's gonna happen to that anyhow. 2431.7844 1435 DTA_int_09 2432.4649 Yeah. 2432.8600 1436 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2432.9347 Whatever's gonna happen it's gonna come too, you can't stop it and ain't no need you trying. 2436.8624 1437 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2436.8624 (pause 0.13) 2436.9898 1438 DTA_se1_ag3_m_02 2436.9898 If it's intended for it to happen, it's gonna be that. 2439.0205 1439 DTA_int_09 2440.0084 Good. 2440.4079