Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_03 0.7803 Um, 1.1767 2 DTA_int_03 1.1767 (pause 2.81) 3.9837 3 DTA_int_03 3.9837 well can you- 4.7578 4 DTA_int_03 4.7578 (pause 1.85) 6.6089 5 DTA_int_03 6.6089 can you remember about, Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/, about, uh, when it was? 10.0214 6 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 10.7798 About how old I was [you mean?] 12.1787 7 DTA_int_03 11.8569 [Yeah.] 12.1880 8 DTA_int_03 12.6449 You were about twenty-something? Twenty- 14.7836 9 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 15.1891 Yes t- I must- yes, I must of been, uh- 17.5961 10 DTA_int_03 17.8060 did you come up all by yourself? 19.1948 11 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 19.6385 to Detroit? 20.2905 12 DTA_int_03 20.4210 Yep. 20.7241 13 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 21.4655 No, I was, uh, living in Gary, Indiana when my first husband was killed and my health was bad. 27.2560 14 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 27.2560 (pause 1.35) 28.6047 15 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 28.6047 And 29.2650 16 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 29.2650 (pause 0.83) 30.0968 17 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 30.0968 that was in nineteen-seventeen. 31.8745 18 DTA_int_03 32.0890 [Mm-hm.] 32.5302 19 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 32.3688 [Nineteen-nineteen] I came to Detroit and I- my brother was here. 35.9184 20 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 36.2588 And that's why I came here. 37.5504 21 DTA_int_03 37.9269 Mm-hm. 38.2388 22 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 38.2871 /I-/ 38.7394 23 DTA_int_03 39.1404 Um, 39.4633 24 DTA_int_03 39.4633 (pause 0.38) 39.8456 25 DTA_int_03 39.8456 where'd you live besides 41.1565 26 DTA_int_03 41.1565 (pause 0.15) 41.3030 27 DTA_int_03 41.3030 Gary and, uh, Tennessee? 43.4679 28 DTA_int_03 43.4679 (pause 1.38) 44.8509 29 DTA_int_03 44.8509 Have you been all around? 46.0002 30 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 47.6404 I lived a while in Port Huron. 49.8459 31 DTA_int_03 49.9916 Oh, really? 50.3693 32 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 50.6258 Uh-huh. 51.2319 33 DTA_int_03 51.9174 Before you came to Detroit [or?] 53.4034 34 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 53.3582 [Oh,] no, no. Since [then.] 54.7105 35 DTA_int_03 54.5566 [Since.] 54.9762 36 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 55.0602 I- 55.3054 37 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 55.3054 (pause 0.51) 55.8194 38 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 55.8194 yeah. 56.3603 39 DTA_int_03 58.6808 Um, 59.1907 40 DTA_int_03 59.1907 (pause 0.70) 59.8885 41 DTA_int_03 59.8885 let's see. 60.4341 42 DTA_int_03 60.4341 (pause 0.91) 61.3433 43 DTA_int_03 61.3433 Can I ask you, what kind of games did you play when you were a kid? 64.2763 44 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 65.3778 Hm, 65.9094 45 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 65.9094 (pause 1.70) 67.6067 46 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 67.6067 I was very, uh- 68.7864 47 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 68.7864 (pause 0.22) 69.0056 48 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 69.0056 uh, 69.6630 49 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 69.6630 (pause 0.44) 70.1071 50 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 70.1071 quite a tomboy. 71.6645 51 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 71.6645 (pause 0.15) 71.8138 52 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 71.8138 I was good at baseball. 73.1431 53 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 73.1431 (pause 0.33) 73.4737 54 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 73.4737 Even league [ball.] (laughing) 75.3546 55 DTA_int_03 74.7432 [Oh, yeah?] 75.1815 56 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 76.5570 And- 77.3124 57 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 77.3124 (pause 0.76) 78.0678 58 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 78.0678 and 78.6367 59 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 78.6367 (pause 2.79) 81.4281 60 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 81.4281 l- let's see. It's been so long. 84.0394 61 DTA_int_03 84.4502 Mm-hm. 84.9566 62 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 84.9113 But, uh, 85.9402 63 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 86.2479 I had a game- 87.1526 64 DTA_int_03 87.9686 Did you play marbles? 88.9478 65 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 90.3800 no, I didn't- didn't do it. We played jack and- 93.2154 66 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 93.2154 (pause 0.19) 93.4019 67 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 93.4019 played jack rock. 94.1993 68 DTA_int_03 94.6749 Mm-hm. 95.0528 69 DTA_int_03 95.0528 (pause 0.24) 95.2968 70 DTA_int_03 95.2968 How'd you do that? 96.1189 71 DTA_int_03 96.1189 (pause 0.96) 97.0802 72 DTA_int_03 97.0802 How'd you play jack rock? 97.8495 73 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 98.3904 You know, the little jacks that [they have] now, and a rubber ball. Just pitch it up and pick 102.5015 74 DTA_int_03 99.8623 [Mm-hm.] 100.2977 75 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 103.1310 [like that.] 103.7651 76 DTA_int_03 103.1729 Mm-hm.] 103.5600 77 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 103.9050 Uh-huh. 104.2594 78 DTA_int_03 105.1064 Um, 105.5121 79 DTA_int_03 105.5121 (pause 1.48) 106.9949 80 DTA_int_03 106.9949 would you ever 107.6104 81 DTA_int_03 107.6104 (pause 0.17) 107.7783 82 DTA_int_03 107.7783 use a rope 108.5735 83 DTA_int_03 108.5735 (pause 0.15) 108.7202 84 DTA_int_03 108.7202 and have two [people hold.] 109.6574 85 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 109.3637 [Oh, yeah.] We used to jump rope. 110.8056 86 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 111.0154 And you skip rope with one, you know, 113.1604 87 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 113.1604 (pause 0.20) 113.3609 88 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 113.3609 all alone. [Jumping] in it. 115.2260 89 DTA_int_03 114.4379 [Mm-hm.] 114.7553 90 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 116.0607 Uh, 116.5673 91 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 116.5673 (pause 0.13) 116.6932 92 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 116.6932 yeah. Jump rope, 117.7564 93 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 117.7564 (pause 0.51) 118.2646 94 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 118.2646 and um, 119.2252 95 DTA_int_03 119.2904 Did you [/cause-/] 120.0831 96 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 119.6495 [/?/.] 119.8780 97 DTA_int_03 120.5774 did you call it anything special when you jumped rope real fast when two [people /?/-] 124.6158 98 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 124.2940 [Hop skipping.] 125.0719 99 DTA_int_03 125.2919 Uh-huh. 125.6533 100 DTA_int_03 125.6533 (pause 0.43) 126.0799 101 DTA_int_03 126.0799 And did you ever jump with two ropes 127.7822 102 DTA_int_03 127.7822 (pause 0.34) 128.1176 103 DTA_int_03 128.1176 at once? 128.7417 104 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 131.8164 Yeah, how do you mean? 133.2433 105 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 133.2433 (pause 0.29) 133.5364 106 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 133.5364 Run out of this one and run through that one? Keep- 136.0701 107 DTA_int_03 136.1633 [Two of 'em] going at once, so you had to jump twice as fast. 139.0949 108 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 136.3359 k- 136.5177 109 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 139.9022 No, I don't- 140.8487 110 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 140.8487 (pause 0.53) 141.3756 111 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 141.3756 mm-mm. 141.8699 112 DTA_int_03 141.8699 No, you never- you never did [that?] 143.2913 113 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 143.0815 [Mm-mm.] 143.5371 114 DTA_int_03 143.4785 [Um,] 144.0187 115 DTA_int_03 145.1641 145.2678 116 DTA_int_03 145.2678 (pause 0.55) 145.8178 117 DTA_int_03 145.8178 did you ever play a game where one person would 148.0326 118 DTA_int_03 148.0326 (pause 0.25) 148.2836 119 DTA_int_03 148.2836 s- 148.5214 120 DTA_int_03 148.5214 (pause 0.51) 149.0344 121 DTA_int_03 149.0344 would hide his eyes and everybody else would run away? 151.3230 122 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 151.5710 Hide-and-go-seek. 152.7798 123 DTA_int_03 152.8078 Mm-hm. 153.3360 124 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 153.4932 [Mm.] 154.0015 125 DTA_int_03 153.6284 [Suppose you] were it. What would you do 155.3197 126 DTA_int_03 155.5589 in hide-and-go-seek? 156.5545 127 DTA_int_03 156.5545 (pause 0.99) 157.5413 128 DTA_int_03 157.5413 You'd go to a? 158.2846 129 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 158.8353 I'd go to the base and, um, 161.1341 130 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 161.1341 (pause 2.01) 163.1402 131 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 163.1402 uh, 163.7991 132 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 163.7991 (pause 0.36) 164.1567 133 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 164.1567 count 164.6510 134 DTA_int_03 164.9588 Mm-hm. 165.2385 135 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 165.3458 til everybody was hidden and 167.1047 136 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 167.1047 (pause 0.50) 167.6084 137 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 167.6084 go to look for 'em. Beat 'em to the base. They would- 170.1823 138 DTA_int_03 173.4027 And they'd be- they'd be it? 174.6990 139 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 174.7597 It. Uh-huh. 175.5253 140 DTA_int_03 176.4523 Uh, 176.9046 141 DTA_int_03 176.9046 (pause 1.15) 178.0594 142 DTA_int_03 178.0594 what's your favorite TV program? 179.6195 143 DTA_int_03 179.6195 (pause 0.44) 180.0597 144 DTA_int_03 180.0597 You said you watch three of 'em. 181.5379 145 DTA_int_03 181.5379 (pause 0.19) 181.7251 146 DTA_int_03 181.7251 What's your favorite? 182.6290 147 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 183.9626 184.2166 148 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 184.2166 (pause 4.14) 188.3562 149 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 188.3562 Well between the three, I- 190.2224 150 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 190.2224 (pause 0.16) 190.3810 151 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 190.3810 now there's Search For Tomorrow 192.2671 152 DTA_int_03 192.5072 [Mm-hm.] 192.8756 153 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 192.6518 [and] Guiding Light 193.6387 154 DTA_int_03 193.7739 [Mm.] 194.0414 155 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 193.8392 [and] uh, Love of Life. 195.6251 156 DTA_int_03 195.7557 Mm-hm. 196.1127 157 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 196.3898 Well I guess, I know I've been watching Search for the L- 198.5021 158 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 198.5021 (pause 0.16) 198.6653 159 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 198.6653 l- 198.8238 160 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 198.8238 (pause 0.15) 198.9788 161 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 198.9788 For Tomorrow the longest. 200.6043 162 DTA_int_03 200.6155 [Mm-hm.] 200.8999 163 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 200.7721 [So], uh, maybe that's my favorite. 202.3701 164 DTA_int_03 202.7325 What's it about? 203.6003 165 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 205.6172 Uh- 206.4603 166 DTA_int_03 207.6549 I don't have a TV set so I don't [get to watch it.] 209.9464 167 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 209.2981 [uh, some] of the characters, one a- some of- 212.0119 168 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 212.4308 Joanne Tate, I think is one of the leading, um, 215.4170 169 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 215.4170 (pause 1.47) 216.8896 170 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 216.8896 m- characters, I guess. 218.0521 171 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 218.0521 (pause 2.61) 220.6584 172 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 220.6584 Now that, I don't know. 222.4163 173 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 222.4163 (pause 0.13) 222.5468 174 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 222.5468 It's gonna be- 223.3305 175 DTA_int_03 226.0778 Well [what's,] you know, what does- 228.0548 176 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 226.4368 [/?/.] 226.6000 177 DTA_int_03 228.2507 what- what's a storyline in Search for Tomorrow? 230.8583 178 DTA_int_03 230.8583 (pause 2.12) 232.9753 179 DTA_int_03 232.9753 Is there a family or what? 234.2195 180 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 236.4017 Yes, Joanne Tate [and her-] 238.9628 181 DTA_int_03 238.2260 [Mm-hm.] 238.5308 182 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 240.4642 for a long time it was her husband, Arthur, but he died with a heart attack. Now it's her and her daughter, Patti. 246.3381 183 DTA_int_03 246.6036 Mm-hm. 246.9953 184 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 250.1952 And then 250.9339 185 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 250.9339 (pause 0.18) 251.1091 186 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 251.1091 it includes Stu Bergman and his wife, Marge, they close friends to 255.0970 187 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 255.0970 (pause 0.09) 255.1903 188 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 255.1903 Joanne. 255.8944 189 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 255.8944 (pause 0.98) 256.8793 190 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 256.8793 But /I now- no-/ not too interested in them whenever 260.2413 191 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 260.2413 (pause 3.08) 263.3246 192 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 263.3246 they come on. I just, 265.0172 193 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 265.0172 (pause 0.24) 265.2550 194 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 265.2550 I don't know, 265.9706 195 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 265.9706 (pause 1.05) 267.0253 196 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 267.0253 I'm not so interested. 268.2843 197 DTA_int_03 268.6433 [Mm-hm.] 268.9837 198 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 268.8345 [But] just Joanne 270.3359 199 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 270.8908 and Patti. 271.7092 200 DTA_int_03 273.8735 Mm-hm. What happens to them? 275.3749 201 DTA_int_03 275.3749 (pause 0.39) 275.7619 202 DTA_int_03 275.7619 What kinds of things? 276.6624 203 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 277.8502 277.9661 204 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 277.9661 (pause 0.42) 278.3825 205 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 278.3825 Well right now, 279.9426 206 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 279.9426 (pause 1.71) 281.6515 207 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 281.6515 Patti has been to engaged to her 283.6136 208 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 283.6136 (pause 0.48) 284.0902 209 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 284.0902 fella. 284.5938 210 DTA_int_03 284.7943 [Mm-hm.] 285.1469 211 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 284.9994 [A] doctor, Len Whiting, 286.6074 212 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 288.4503 and his mother 290.3717 213 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 290.3717 (pause 2.94) 293.3137 214 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 293.3137 came over 294.4095 215 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 294.4095 (pause 1.36) 295.7647 216 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 295.7647 and some way, somehow, she's caused them to, um, 299.1314 217 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 299.1314 (pause 2.15) 301.2793 218 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 301.2793 well, Len wants to, 302.6754 219 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 302.6754 (pause 0.95) 303.6294 220 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 303.6294 uh, postpone the wedding for a while, but Patti wanted- has called it off. 308.3653 221 DTA_int_03 308.7244 [Mm-hm.] 309.1118 222 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 309.0368 [But it] all- was all. 310.5852 223 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 311.4568 That was what, uh, An- 313.1504 224 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 313.1504 (pause 0.16) 313.3129 225 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 313.3129 Andrea wanted, that's his mother. 315.2423 226 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 315.2423 (pause 1.08) 316.3205 227 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 316.3205 His father's named Sam Reynolds. 318.1577 228 DTA_int_03 318.3256 Mm-hm. 318.6286 229 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 319.2162 And, uh, 320.1954 230 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 320.1954 (pause 2.02) 322.2128 231 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 322.2128 he hates his father. 323.7609 232 DTA_int_03 323.8681 Mm-hm. 324.1627 233 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 324.1712 Something happened years ago when he was six years old. 327.0128 234 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 327.0128 (pause 0.38) 327.3952 235 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 327.3952 He had a twin brother named Timmy. 329.2151 236 DTA_int_03 329.7118 [Mm-hm.] 330.0050 237 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 329.9497 [And,] uh, 331.1353 238 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 332.9416 he was in a fire 334.5656 239 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 334.5656 (pause 0.41) 334.9746 240 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 334.9746 and was burned up. 335.9585 241 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 335.9585 (pause 0.43) 336.3922 242 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 336.3922 And this boy blames- the son blames the father. 339.7366 243 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 339.7366 (pause 0.90) 340.6412 244 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 340.6412 But I've been waiting for the father to tell just what it was, something- he wasn't at home 346.1903 245 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 346.1903 (pause 0.48) 346.6733 246 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 346.6733 but I think he was away on the account of 348.6935 247 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 348.6935 (pause 0.49) 349.1840 248 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 349.1840 the wife. 349.9758 249 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 349.9758 (pause 0.39) 350.3675 250 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 350.3675 But she fixed it her way. 351.8503 251 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 351.8503 (pause 1.20) 353.0486 252 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 353.0486 And the, um, 353.8657 253 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 353.8657 (pause 0.72) 354.5811 254 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 354.5811 son blames him for everything, the father. 356.8799 255 DTA_int_03 357.2110 Mm-hm. 357.5793 256 DTA_int_03 357.5793 (pause 0.25) 357.8311 257 DTA_int_03 357.8311 Mm-hm. 358.1529 258 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 358.2368 And 358.8884 259 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 358.8884 (pause 0.43) 359.3139 260 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 359.3139 the son is kind of, 361.0776 261 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 361.0776 (pause 1.14) 362.2200 262 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 362.2200 I don't know 362.8629 263 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 362.8629 (pause 0.51) 363.3718 264 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 363.3718 whatchu would say, what kind of mind you'd say. 365.4432 265 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 365.4432 (pause 0.41) 365.8582 266 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 365.8582 Because for a while, he's just 367.3632 267 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 367.3632 (pause 0.86) 368.2270 268 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 368.2270 busy trying to 369.7594 269 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 369.7594 (pause 0.10) 369.8620 270 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 369.8620 make up with Patti, and then as soon as he get everything going smooth, 373.8471 271 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 373.8471 (pause 1.08) 374.9224 272 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 374.9224 he 375.4306 273 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 375.4306 (pause 0.91) 376.3399 274 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 376.3399 do something different. 377.7012 275 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 377.7012 (pause 0.78) 378.4848 276 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 378.4848 And it's got her to the place where she don't think there'd be any happiness with him. 382.6247 277 DTA_int_03 382.9083 Mm-hm. 383.3436 278 DTA_int_03 383.3436 (pause 0.88) 384.2270 279 DTA_int_03 384.2270 Sensible girl. 385.2094 280 DTA_int_03 385.2094 (pause 0.83) 386.0437 281 DTA_int_03 386.0437 Uh, 386.4307 282 DTA_int_03 386.4307 (pause 0.46) 386.8907 283 DTA_int_03 386.8907 did you ever have a pet? 388.0518 284 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 391.1153 Uh, 391.9773 285 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 391.9773 (pause 0.37) 392.3510 286 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 392.3510 yes. When we were small. 394.5277 287 DTA_int_03 394.6863 Mm-hm. 395.0033 288 DTA_int_03 395.0033 (pause 0.20) 395.2042 289 DTA_int_03 395.2042 [What kind?] 395.5769 290 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 395.3857 [We had] a dog. 396.3789 291 DTA_int_03 396.6178 Mm-hm. 396.9705 292 DTA_int_03 396.9705 (pause 0.92) 397.8861 293 DTA_int_03 397.8861 What was he like? 398.6881 294 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 400.3155 Uh, he was a big old shepherd dog named Jack. 402.7432 295 DTA_int_03 403.0650 Mm-hm. 403.4234 296 DTA_int_03 403.4234 (pause 1.31) 404.7343 297 DTA_int_03 404.7343 Did he do anything special or just sit around? 407.1096 298 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 408.5516 He would guard the house. 410.7778 299 DTA_int_03 411.1255 Did you ever have 411.8483 300 DTA_int_03 411.8483 (pause 0.14) 411.9881 301 DTA_int_03 411.9881 any trouble? 412.7295 302 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 413.8637 With the [dog?] 414.6238 303 DTA_int_03 414.4471 [With-] no, I mean with people coming, when- 416.5076 304 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 418.1723 No, because he stayed out in the 421.0283 305 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 421.0283 (pause 1.35) 422.3825 306 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 422.3825 back. 423.0351 307 DTA_int_03 423.1797 Mm-hm. 423.4688 308 DTA_int_03 423.4688 (pause 4.76) 428.2241 309 DTA_int_03 428.2241 What would he do when somebody came? 429.7955 310 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 432.7016 Well 433.2052 311 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 433.2052 (pause 0.19) 433.3917 312 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 433.3917 way the house was built, he couldn't get to the front. 436.5235 313 DTA_int_03 436.5765 Mm-hm. 436.9495 314 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 437.4235 But if 437.9504 315 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 437.9504 (pause 0.29) 438.2450 316 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 438.2450 it was 438.7923 317 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 438.7923 (pause 0.71) 439.5032 318 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 439.5032 somebody he didn't like, 440.8717 319 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 440.8717 (pause 0.61) 441.4803 320 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 441.4803 or didn't like their voice, he'd 442.8791 321 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 442.8791 (pause 0.14) 443.0143 322 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 443.0143 come up under the house. See down south the houses were 445.7592 323 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 445.7592 (pause 0.24) 446.0001 324 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 446.0001 up higher, didn't have basements. 447.9834 325 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 447.9834 (pause 0.51) 448.4916 326 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 448.4916 At least the house that we lived in. 450.2740 327 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 450.2740 (pause 0.40) 450.6750 328 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 450.6750 He come under the- under the house and bark the whole time that person's there. 454.1779 329 DTA_int_03 454.2992 Mm-hm. 454.6442 330 DTA_int_03 454.6442 (pause 1.21) 455.8566 331 DTA_int_03 455.8566 He couldn't get out the front. What [was there a ladder] sitting [across?] 458.3326 332 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 457.1249 [No.] 457.5212 333 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 457.5212 (pause 0.70) 458.2253 334 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 458.2253 [Yes.] 458.7716 335 DTA_int_03 459.1590 That's funny. 459.9564 336 DTA_int_03 459.9564 (pause 0.75) 460.7071 337 DTA_int_03 460.7071 Uh, was there any way when you were a kid, that you were supposed to be able to get a wish? 464.8315 338 DTA_int_03 464.8315 (pause 3.52) 468.3518 339 DTA_int_03 468.3518 You know, it [didn't work.] 469.5152 340 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 469.0302 [I know] what you're talking about. Uh, 471.2988 341 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 473.1491 let's see. 473.9185 342 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 473.9185 (pause 0.78) 474.7019 343 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 474.7019 Well, lose a tooth, you put it under the pillow and make a wish. 478.4272 344 DTA_int_03 478.5433 Mm-hm. 478.9642 345 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 479.5524 And I think some say if you see a- 481.0573 346 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 481.0573 (pause 0.16) 481.2135 347 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 481.2135 a new moon, if you hold a- 482.9434 348 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 482.9434 (pause 0.17) 483.1160 349 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 483.1160 a silver 483.9879 350 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 483.9879 (pause 0.13) 484.1185 351 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 484.1185 coin up and make a wish. 485.8106 352 DTA_int_03 485.9968 Mm-hm. 486.4072 353 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 487.6755 And 488.3938 354 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 488.3938 (pause 0.16) 488.5551 355 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 488.5551 chicken wish bone, [break bet.] 490.3825 356 DTA_int_03 489.7847 [Mm-hm.] 490.1592 357 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 490.4863 [] 490.8587 358 DTA_int_03 490.6954 [Mm-hm.] 491.2382 359 DTA_int_03 493.6890 Right. 494.1226 360 DTA_int_03 494.1226 (pause 0.24) 494.3662 361 DTA_int_03 494.3662 Um, 494.8408 362 DTA_int_03 494.8408 (pause 2.31) 497.1472 363 DTA_int_03 497.1472 can I ask you about school? 498.6986 364 DTA_int_03 498.6986 (pause 0.93) 499.6279 365 DTA_int_03 499.6279 What [was your school] like? What is in the- what was the school room like? 503.0282 366 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 499.7957 [Yeah.] 500.1921 367 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 505.3915 Well it was a 507.2660 368 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 507.2660 (pause 0.38) 507.6419 369 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 507.6419 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 508.5121 370 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 508.5121 (pause 2.10) 510.6135 371 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 510.6135 High School. 511.9704 372 DTA_int_03 512.3247 Mm-hm. 512.7514 373 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 513.5371 Uh, 514.2785 374 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 514.2785 (pause 2.25) 516.5250 375 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 516.5250 well that was a s- 517.4451 376 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 517.4451 (pause 0.38) 517.8223 377 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 517.8223 a kind of a small town. 520.0008 378 DTA_int_03 520.2388 Mm-hm. 520.6945 379 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 521.2553 And it didn't have a 522.6006 380 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 522.6006 (pause 0.17) 522.7661 381 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 522.7661 elementary schools and junior high like we have here. 526.2271 382 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 526.2271 (pause 0.31) 526.5348 383 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 526.5348 [The school] had- 527.3827 384 DTA_int_03 526.5666 [Yeah.] 526.8206 385 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 527.5075 building had three rooms. 529.2635 386 DTA_int_03 529.4949 Mm-hm. 529.8998 387 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 530.0405 And, uh, 531.1410 388 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 531.1410 (pause 0.29) 531.4312 389 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 531.4312 the elementary, 532.3838 390 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 532.3838 (pause 0.33) 532.7181 391 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 532.7181 uh, 533.4642 392 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 533.4642 (pause 1.29) 534.7558 393 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 534.7558 children were in one. 536.1632 394 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 536.1632 (pause 1.04) 537.1984 395 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 537.1984 And the 538.0004 396 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 538.0004 (pause 2.87) 540.8738 397 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 540.8738 oh, I done forgot just was what grades would be in the next, and [then] 544.5585 398 DTA_int_03 544.0671 [Mm-h.] 544.4038 399 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 548.7377 the high school 550.0526 400 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 550.0526 (pause 1.28) 551.3303 401 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 551.3303 grades would be in 552.6685 402 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 552.6685 (pause 0.40) 553.0707 403 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 553.0707 one together. 553.9986 404 DTA_int_03 554.3343 Mm-hm. 554.7232 405 DTA_int_03 554.7232 (pause 0.22) 554.9405 406 DTA_int_03 554.9405 Did you have three teachers? 556.0689 407 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 558.1244 Three, yes. 559.5046 408 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 559.5046 (pause 0.32) 559.8201 409 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 559.8201 There was three teachers. 561.1257 410 DTA_int_03 561.6153 Mm-hm. 561.8417 411 DTA_int_03 561.8417 (pause 1.62) 563.4665 412 DTA_int_03 563.4665 Uh, 563.9794 413 DTA_int_03 563.9794 (pause 1.61) 565.5928 414 DTA_int_03 565.5928 let's see. 566.1515 415 DTA_int_03 566.1515 (pause 0.15) 566.3007 416 DTA_int_03 566.3007 What was in the classroom? 567.8721 417 DTA_int_03 567.8721 (pause 0.38) 568.2498 418 DTA_int_03 568.2498 Where did the teacher write 569.5516 419 DTA_int_03 569.5516 (pause 0.99) 570.5385 420 DTA_int_03 570.5385 with chalk? On the? 571.6716 421 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 572.1845 Blackboard. 572.9594 422 DTA_int_03 573.2814 And where did you sit? 574.4046 423 DTA_int_03 574.4046 (pause 0.45) 574.8574 424 DTA_int_03 574.8574 Did you all sit around in your, uh? 576.5734 425 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 577.0350 Uh, desk. At 578.2559 426 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 578.2559 (pause 0.12) 578.3724 427 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 578.3724 the 578.6895 428 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 578.6895 (pause 1.12) 579.8133 429 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 579.8133 yeah, in the desk. 580.8531 430 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 580.8531 (pause 0.12) 580.9697 431 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 580.9697 At the desk. 581.7983 432 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 581.7983 (pause 0.97) 582.7679 433 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 582.7679 [That's] what we would call it, a desk, a school, uh. 585.5284 434 DTA_int_03 582.7679 [Um,] 583.1961 435 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 587.6818 Yeah, you know, /how this-/ 588.7732 436 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 588.7732 (pause 1.07) 589.8418 437 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 589.8418 yeah, we call it a desk. 591.2440 438 DTA_int_03 591.4132 Mm-hm. 591.6977 439 DTA_int_03 591.6977 (pause 0.71) 592.4111 440 DTA_int_03 592.4111 Was the back of one attached to the 594.2949 441 DTA_int_03 594.2949 (pause 0.15) 594.4488 442 DTA_int_03 594.4488 front of the other? 595.2333 443 DTA_int_03 595.2333 (pause 0.80) 596.0353 444 DTA_int_03 596.0353 Or did you have those desks where the chair was on the front? 598.5953 445 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 601.3035 This seat and the back of the other seat was, uh, yes. 604.7739 446 DTA_int_03 606.3313 Uh, 606.6717 447 DTA_int_03 606.6717 (pause 0.12) 606.7882 448 DTA_int_03 606.7882 did you ever have a teacher who hollered a lot? 608.5267 449 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 613.9667 Well, 615.1417 450 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 615.1417 (pause 1.98) 617.1226 451 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 617.1226 no. 617.9526 452 DTA_int_03 618.7752 Mm-hm. 619.1612 453 DTA_int_03 619.1612 (pause 2.40) 621.5582 454 DTA_int_03 621.5582 Did you ever have one you 622.3975 455 DTA_int_03 622.3975 (pause 0.23) 622.6260 456 DTA_int_03 622.6260 just couldn't stand? 623.6534 457 DTA_int_03 623.6534 (pause 0.64) 624.2898 458 DTA_int_03 624.2898 Where there any of those teachers that were 625.9638 459 DTA_int_03 625.9638 (pause 0.15) 626.1130 460 DTA_int_03 626.1130 really bad? 626.7051 461 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 627.9793 No. 628.5994 462 DTA_int_03 629.9330 If you went outside to play, 631.6490 463 DTA_int_03 631.6490 (pause 0.28) 631.9252 464 DTA_int_03 631.9252 uh, what would be out there? 633.3793 465 DTA_int_03 633.3793 (pause 2.12) 635.5016 466 DTA_int_03 635.5016 Outside the school? 636.5204 467 DTA_int_03 636.5204 (pause 0.72) 637.2444 468 DTA_int_03 637.2444 Was there a place where you could swing? 638.6619 469 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 639.5619 Oh, no. We didn't have, it wasn't equipped with swings or anything. We'd go out 643.8602 470 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 643.8602 (pause 0.96) 644.8205 471 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 644.8205 jump rope, 645.6971 472 DTA_int_03 645.8090 [Mm-hm.] 646.1307 473 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 646.0048 [play] ball. 646.9561 474 DTA_int_03 646.9156 Mm-hm. 647.2120 475 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 648.4297 That was about it 649.3295 476 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 649.3295 (pause 0.14) 649.4695 477 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 649.4695 on the school grounds. Oh, sometime hiding a- hide a switch. 653.8538 478 DTA_int_03 654.2358 Mm-hm. 654.5839 479 DTA_int_03 654.5839 (pause 2.05) 656.6348 480 DTA_int_03 656.6348 How do you play that? 657.2893 481 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 658.9095 Uh, 659.5359 482 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 659.5359 (pause 1.26) 660.7933 483 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 660.7933 you have a s- 661.6510 484 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 661.6510 (pause 0.80) 662.4486 485 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 662.4486 switch 663.2786 486 DTA_int_03 663.3217 Mm-hm. 663.7164 487 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 664.4641 and, um, 665.3361 488 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 665.3361 (pause 0.30) 665.6391 489 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 665.6391 maybe I would hide it 667.0707 490 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 667.0707 (pause 2.72) 669.7949 491 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 669.7949 under something. And you say, who's hot? 672.2620 492 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 672.2620 (pause 0.51) 672.7690 493 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 672.7690 And whoever's close, if it was over in that corner, who's hot? 675.9436 494 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 675.9436 (pause 0.61) 676.5498 495 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 676.5498 And then say, well Mary is. Mary. 678.3404 496 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 678.3404 (pause 0.45) 678.7938 497 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 678.7938 And who's hot. And everybody'd run- be running over there and maybe Mary would see it or 683.3681 498 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 683.3681 (pause 0.18) 683.5437 499 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 683.5437 Bessie. 684.1312 500 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 684.1312 (pause 0.44) 684.5742 501 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 684.5742 She'd grab it. And whoever she's 686.3973 502 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 686.3973 (pause 0.40) 686.7949 503 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 686.7949 strike with it, they're it. 688.2159 504 DTA_int_03 688.5154 Mm-hm. 688.8325 505 DTA_int_03 688.8325 (pause 0.24) 689.0750 506 DTA_int_03 689.0750 Mm-hm. 689.4000 507 DTA_int_03 689.4000 (pause 0.71) 690.1101 508 DTA_int_03 690.1101 And the- then did they have to hide it? 691.6383 509 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 691.8415 [Yes.] 692.3903 510 DTA_int_03 692.3390 [Mm-hm.] 692.6278 511 DTA_int_03 693.8210 Uh, 694.2781 512 DTA_int_03 694.2781 (pause 1.80) 696.0817 513 DTA_int_03 696.0817 did you, uh, 696.8581 514 DTA_int_03 696.8581 (pause 0.65) 697.5085 515 DTA_int_03 697.5085 did you ever sit on- 698.5798 516 DTA_int_03 698.5798 (pause 0.26) 698.8411 517 DTA_int_03 698.8411 on a board? 699.5361 518 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 699.5920 Seesaw. 700.4018 519 DTA_int_03 700.4453 [Mm-hm.] 700.8510 520 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 700.8044 [Mm.] 701.2847 521 DTA_int_03 701.8069 Uh, 702.1147 522 DTA_int_03 702.1147 (pause 0.41) 702.5250 523 DTA_int_03 702.5250 did you- can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had? 705.3215 524 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 711.0864 Well, 711.4578 525 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 711.4578 (pause 1.58) 713.0338 526 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 713.0338 I went, uh, through this school 715.8502 527 DTA_int_03 716.0228 Mm-hm. 716.3958 528 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 716.9611 all three of the teachers at one time were 719.6401 529 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 719.6401 (pause 0.68) 720.3184 530 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 720.3184 I was in their room. 721.5099 531 DTA_int_03 721.7976 Mm-hm. 722.1007 532 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 722.4551 Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/, I believe the principal is Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, and Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ was, uh, his wife. 728.6403 533 DTA_int_03 729.0418 [Mm-hm.] 729.3698 534 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 729.2377 [She,] I believe was the 730.7904 535 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 734.7819 uh, one that I think- 736.3303 536 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 736.3303 (pause 0.91) 737.2398 537 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 737.2398 she had more, 738.6154 538 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 738.6154 (pause 1.89) 740.5050 539 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 740.5050 let's see h- how would you put that. 741.9318 540 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 741.9318 (pause 0.28) 742.2090 541 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 742.2090 I guess you'd say consideration for each individual. What I mean, maybe I'm [slow] to speak, 747.0221 542 DTA_int_03 745.8236 [Yeah.] 746.0816 543 DTA_int_03 747.3718 [Mm-hm.] 747.6940 544 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 747.4278 [but she] could go along with that. While, uh, 749.8543 545 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 749.9489 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ he want you to speak up, he don't care if your tongue was tied or what. (laughing) 754.1390 546 DTA_int_03 754.2460 Mm-hm. 754.6564 547 DTA_int_03 754.6564 (pause 0.12) 754.7732 548 DTA_int_03 754.7732 [Mm-hm.] 755.1244 549 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 754.9074 [Won't you] just- just- just come on out with it. Then sometime 757.7098 550 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 760.2755 you can get, I did at times, get confused 763.3494 551 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 763.3494 (pause 0.79) 764.1421 552 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 764.1421 and if you rush me, or say something then it's just 767.6346 553 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 767.6346 (pause 0.49) 768.1242 554 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 768.1242 worse than ever. 768.9787 555 DTA_int_03 769.2678 Mm-hm. 769.7234 556 DTA_int_03 769.7234 (pause 0.18) 769.9019 557 DTA_int_03 769.9019 [Mm-hm.] 770.1817 558 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 770.1211 [] 770.2516 559 DTA_int_03 771.0070 Um, 771.5153 560 DTA_int_03 771.5153 (pause 1.55) 773.0625 561 DTA_int_03 773.0625 did- 773.3656 562 DTA_int_03 773.3656 (pause 0.63) 773.9998 563 DTA_int_03 773.9998 say, who was the smartest kid in your class? 776.2846 564 DTA_int_03 776.2846 (pause 0.42) 776.7073 565 DTA_int_03 776.7073 [/Do you remember?/] 777.0846 566 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 776.8285 [In my class?] 777.7798 567 DTA_int_03 777.6912 [Yeah.] 778.0456 568 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 779.9713 Well, I'll tell you 781.1410 569 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 781.1410 (pause 1.51) 782.6489 570 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 782.6489 what. 783.4183 571 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 783.4183 (pause 1.72) 785.1343 572 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 785.1343 There was a girl named /RD-NAME-5/ 787.3569 573 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 787.3569 (pause 1.97) 789.3246 574 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 789.3246 and a boy named /RD-NAME-4/, 791.3782 575 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 791.3782 (pause 3.07) 794.4530 576 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 794.4530 and 795.1641 577 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 795.1641 (pause 1.44) 796.6064 578 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 796.6064 myself. We used to 798.1685 579 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 798.1685 (pause 0.56) 798.7327 580 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 798.7327 at the head of the class. At 800.2753 581 DTA_int_03 800.3639 Mm-hm. 800.6367 582 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 801.1519 all times it would be one of the three. 803.4202 583 DTA_int_03 803.5805 Mm-hm. 803.9069 584 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 805.0866 /And actually, from-/ 806.1742 585 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 806.1742 (pause 0.48) 806.6544 586 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 806.6544 I was out. I had to work quite a bit. 808.5989 587 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 808.5989 (pause 0.64) 809.2424 588 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 809.2424 Out on the- 810.2205 589 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 810.2205 (pause 0.65) 810.8708 590 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 810.8708 we lived in town, but we went worked out, 812.8619 591 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 812.8619 (pause 0.81) 813.6686 592 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 813.6686 my mother worked out on, um, 815.3091 593 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 815.3091 (pause 0.30) 815.6075 594 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 815.6075 it was after she- 816.5952 595 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 816.5952 (pause 0.11) 816.7025 596 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 816.7025 she hadn't taught any school then. 818.4565 597 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 818.4565 (pause 1.56) 820.0178 598 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 820.0178 Worked 820.4285 599 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 820.4285 (pause 0.11) 820.5346 600 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 820.5346 out on the, uh, truck farms and she'd take my brother and I. 823.9042 601 DTA_int_03 824.2753 Mm-hm. 824.5644 602 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 824.5644 And, uh, naturally, 825.6158 603 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 825.7208 we miss a day, we had to go back to the foot of the class. But there wouldn't be no 829.6462 604 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 829.6462 (pause 0.97) 830.6161 605 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 830.6161 time before I'd work my way on back up 833.0186 606 DTA_int_03 833.4709 [Mm-hm.] 833.7814 607 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 833.7227 [to] about three. Anywhere from the third to the head, because there was /RD-NAME-3/ and /RD-NAME-2/ was the only two that, uh, 840.8339 608 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 842.2794 you know, that I, 843.0814 609 DTA_int_03 845.0996 Mm-hm. 845.3980 610 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 845.4120 um, 845.8410 611 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 845.8410 (pause 0.82) 846.6570 612 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 846.6570 had to worry about. 847.7679 613 DTA_int_03 848.1829 Mm-hm. 848.5140 614 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 848.7214 And. 849.1643 615 DTA_int_03 849.2834 Um, 849.6929 616 DTA_int_03 849.6929 (pause 0.44) 850.1320 617 DTA_int_03 850.1320 did you get any special favors cause you were so good? 852.6035 618 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 854.7074 Well, no. I 856.2835 619 DTA_int_03 856.9308 You're /unintelligible/ do it. 858.1525 620 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 857.4158 [This,] 857.8264 621 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 858.3903 um, 859.1457 622 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 859.1457 (pause 1.36) 860.5103 623 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 860.5103 would, um, 861.5035 624 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 861.5035 (pause 2.22) 863.7277 625 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 863.7277 you know, the teachers seemed to, uh, say nice words is all [I could] say. 868.4782 626 DTA_int_03 867.6550 [Mm-hm.] 867.9975 627 DTA_int_03 870.8809 Uh, 871.1513 628 DTA_int_03 871.1513 (pause 0.45) 871.5990 629 DTA_int_03 871.5990 what did the teacher do with the dumb kids? 873.5803 630 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 875.4478 Well 876.2043 631 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 876.2043 (pause 0.83) 877.0389 632 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 877.0389 not much of anything, because we had a girl in that class, she was in that class when I went- 882.9468 633 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 882.9468 (pause 0.92) 883.8712 634 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 883.8712 when I got- 884.5333 635 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 884.5333 (pause 0.94) 885.4717 636 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 885.4717 when I went there. And she was 887.0392 637 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 887.0392 (pause 3.20) 890.2410 638 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 890.2410 uh, was gonna say she was there when I left, but she wasn't. 892.7796 639 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 892.7796 (pause 0.42) 893.1992 640 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 893.1992 She just in the class. She didn't have a lesson, she just- 896.7740 641 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 896.7740 (pause 0.26) 897.0352 642 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 897.0352 they didn't do anything about it. 898.8537 643 DTA_int_03 899.1475 Mm-hm. 899.5059 644 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 899.8282 Just leave, you know, how- oh, I don't know whatchu know now, but then- 902.2820 645 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 902.2820 (pause 0.40) 902.6784 646 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 902.6784 anyway, if you in, say like in spelling, 905.5099 647 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 905.5099 (pause 0.95) 906.4564 648 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 906.4564 if the- 907.3284 649 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 907.3284 (pause 3.14) 910.4723 650 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 910.4723 you miss, anyway you'd m- 911.9279 651 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 911.9279 (pause 0.13) 912.0577 652 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 912.0577 m- go, uh, 913.3609 653 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 913.3609 (pause 0.25) 913.6151 654 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 913.6151 spell down, down, down get to the foot of the class. 916.4839 655 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 916.4839 (pause 0.42) 916.9036 656 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 916.9036 And that's where she stayed most of the time. 918.9759 657 DTA_int_03 919.3527 Mm-hm. 919.7460 658 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 919.6404 At the foot of the class. 920.9645 659 DTA_int_03 922.4741 Poor kid. 923.1489 660 DTA_int_03 923.1489 (pause 0.77) 923.9196 661 DTA_int_03 923.9196 Uh, what time did you get out of school 926.2184 662 DTA_int_03 926.2184 (pause 0.41) 926.6299 663 DTA_int_03 926.6299 in the afternoon? 927.4505 664 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 931.6716 It's was s- 932.9492 665 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 932.9492 (pause 0.93) 933.8763 666 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 933.8763 three or four o'clock. It's been a long time, seems [to me like] it's 938.2260 667 DTA_int_03 937.2887 [Mm-hm.] 937.6835 668 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 938.7762 four o'clock. 939.9186 669 DTA_int_03 940.7450 And you'd get ready 941.7756 670 DTA_int_03 941.7756 (pause 0.16) 941.9324 671 DTA_int_03 941.9324 to go home about quarter- 943.4562 672 DTA_int_03 943.4562 (pause 0.68) 944.1396 673 DTA_int_03 944.1396 what? 944.4168 674 DTA_int_03 944.4168 (pause 1.39) 945.8101 675 DTA_int_03 945.8101 Just before four. 946.8937 676 DTA_int_03 946.8937 (pause 0.26) 947.1530 677 DTA_int_03 947.1530 Like, 947.5167 678 DTA_int_03 947.5167 (pause 0.38) 947.8990 679 DTA_int_03 947.8990 what time? Quarter? 948.8270 680 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 949.7960 You mean, a quarter to four? 951.0649 681 DTA_int_03 951.0649 Mm-hm. 951.3740 682 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 951.3740 Mm. 951.8310 683 DTA_int_03 952.5118 Um, 952.9641 684 DTA_int_03 952.9641 (pause 1.91) 954.8723 685 DTA_int_03 954.8723 was there a bunch of girls you always hung around with? 957.0825 686 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 958.0477 When I was in [school?] 958.9842 687 DTA_int_03 958.9142 [Mm-hm.] 959.2669 688 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 959.3246 Mm-hm. 959.9214 689 DTA_int_03 960.1546 How many of 'em were there about? 961.5348 690 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 965.8910 Oh, about three. 967.1679 691 DTA_int_03 967.3590 Mm-hm. 967.8162 692 DTA_int_03 967.8162 (pause 1.21) 969.0284 693 DTA_int_03 969.0284 Do you ever see any of 'em? 970.0242 694 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 970.6615 No, not for years. 972.5321 695 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 972.5321 (pause 2.33) 974.8643 696 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 974.8643 Well, except 975.7611 697 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 975.7611 (pause 0.31) 976.0688 698 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 976.0688 one. 976.8662 699 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 976.8662 (pause 1.60) 978.4702 700 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 978.4702 Lives in Chicago, I see her 980.5963 701 DTA_int_03 980.8587 Mm-hm. 981.2375 702 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 982.4068 uh, pretty often. 984.2735 703 DTA_int_03 984.5611 Mm-hm. 984.8818 704 DTA_int_03 984.8818 (pause 2.77) 987.6490 705 DTA_int_03 987.6490 Was there 988.3251 706 DTA_int_03 988.3251 (pause 0.34) 988.6609 707 DTA_int_03 988.6609 any one girl who was 990.1266 708 DTA_int_03 990.1266 (pause 0.48) 990.6072 709 DTA_int_03 990.6072 sort of a leader 991.6155 710 DTA_int_03 991.6155 (pause 0.13) 991.7461 711 DTA_int_03 991.7461 in the group? 992.3103 712 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1000.7858 Y- 1001.7837 713 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1001.7837 (pause 0.29) 1002.0696 714 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1002.0696 yes. 1003.1899 715 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1003.1899 (pause 0.22) 1003.4102 716 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1003.4102 It was 1004.2495 717 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1004.2495 (pause 0.22) 1004.4687 718 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1004.4687 /RD-NAME-4/. 1006.0055 719 DTA_int_03 1006.7379 Mm-hm. 1007.0876 720 DTA_int_03 1007.0876 (pause 4.02) 1011.1070 721 DTA_int_03 1011.1070 How come? 1011.7470 722 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1013.0013 Pardon? 1013.3790 723 DTA_int_03 1013.5608 How come? Do you- 1014.4888 724 DTA_int_03 1014.4888 (pause 0.19) 1014.6799 725 DTA_int_03 1014.6799 do you know w- was there anything about her that made her a leader, or? 1017.7188 726 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1020.3690 Well, 1021.1570 727 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1021.1570 (pause 1.36) 1022.5139 728 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1022.5139 I don't know. She would just- 1024.7793 729 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1024.7793 (pause 7.30) 1032.0751 730 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1032.0751 I don't hardly know. She, uh, 1034.7076 731 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1034.7076 (pause 1.85) 1036.5592 732 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1036.5592 I guess you would say was 1037.7715 733 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1037.7715 (pause 0.47) 1038.2378 734 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1038.2378 a bit demanding. 1039.8066 735 DTA_int_03 1039.9436 Mm-hm. 1040.3353 736 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1040.3399 But 1040.5964 737 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1040.5964 (pause 2.10) 1042.6994 738 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1042.6994 it's been quite a while. But it- I don't, 1044.8211 739 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1044.8211 (pause 0.37) 1045.1905 740 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1045.1905 I can't remember that 1046.4355 741 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1046.4355 (pause 0.27) 1046.7059 742 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1046.7059 of any 1047.4286 743 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1047.4286 (pause 1.11) 1048.5368 744 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1048.5368 the suggestions that she made that I- 1051.1340 745 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1051.1340 (pause 0.61) 1051.7402 746 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1051.7402 /worth it-/ I was a person that looked like if the majority 1055.0547 747 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1055.0547 (pause 0.27) 1055.3205 748 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1055.3205 go, I just go ahead on over and hardly- 1057.4626 749 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1057.4626 (pause 1.43) 1058.8961 750 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1058.8961 if I didn't think, and you know, long as it was nothing that was, uh, 1062.3412 751 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1062.3412 (pause 0.42) 1062.7655 752 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1062.7655 so bad. 1063.6946 753 DTA_int_03 1063.8438 [Mm-hm.] 1064.1096 754 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1064.0583 [Well] I just go ahead, okay go ahead with your way, but if it was too bad then I'd 1067.7430 755 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1069.6242 back up. 1070.3189 756 DTA_int_03 1070.9391 Mm-hm. 1071.2598 757 DTA_int_03 1071.2598 (pause 1.18) 1072.4359 758 DTA_int_03 1072.4359 Uh, 1072.9208 759 DTA_int_03 1072.9208 (pause 0.35) 1073.2659 760 DTA_int_03 1073.2659 if you could do it all over again, 1075.1349 761 DTA_int_03 1075.1349 (pause 0.18) 1075.3167 762 DTA_int_03 1075.3167 say you were a teenager right now, 1077.2464 763 DTA_int_03 1077.2464 (pause 0.66) 1077.9038 764 DTA_int_03 1077.9038 what would you do? 1078.7818 765 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1081.3788 1081.9057 766 DTA_int_03 1083.5704 What would you be? What would you wanna do with your life? 1085.9123 767 DTA_int_03 1085.9123 (pause 0.83) 1086.7469 768 DTA_int_03 1086.7469 Would you do anything different? 1088.0646 769 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1089.7537 Well, yes. I would. 1091.2505 770 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1091.2505 (pause 0.39) 1091.6421 771 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1091.6421 Uh, because when I was a teenager I wanted to be a 1095.0025 772 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1095.0025 (pause 0.69) 1095.6926 773 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1095.6926 music teacher. 1097.0306 774 DTA_int_03 1097.1987 Mm-hm. 1097.5531 775 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1097.7349 And I wanted, 1098.8532 776 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1098.8532 (pause 0.15) 1099.0071 777 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1099.0071 uh, g- maybe that's why I didn't 1100.3314 778 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1100.3314 (pause 0.34) 1100.6717 779 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1100.6717 get either one, I wanted too much, and I wanted to be a seamstress. 1103.8883 780 DTA_int_03 1104.1859 Mm-hm. 1104.4844 781 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1104.6802 But 1105.0009 782 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1105.0009 (pause 3.66) 1108.6615 783 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1108.6615 yes, uh, 1109.1791 784 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1109.1791 (pause 0.22) 1109.3983 785 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1109.3983 if I had to do it over again, I would 1111.0070 786 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1111.0070 (pause 4.13) 1115.1347 787 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1115.1347 be in music. I love music. 1116.9311 788 DTA_int_03 1117.2808 [Mm-hm.] 1117.6585 789 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1117.5559 [And.] 1118.0450 790 DTA_int_03 1118.4558 Do you play any instrument? 1119.6962 791 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1120.5626 No. 1121.0546 792 DTA_int_03 1122.2498 Do you sing? Or did you? 1123.4062 793 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1123.7886 Pardon? 1124.2222 794 DTA_int_03 1124.2502 Did you sing a lot? 1125.2574 795 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1126.1573 Oh, yes I did. 1127.0696 796 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1127.0696 (pause 0.25) 1127.3214 797 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1127.3214 My younger days, yeah. 1128.8165 798 DTA_int_03 1129.0374 Mm-hm. 1129.3320 799 DTA_int_03 1129.3320 (pause 1.32) 1130.6554 800 DTA_int_03 1130.6554 Uh, 1131.0138 801 DTA_int_03 1131.0138 (pause 1.39) 1132.4004 802 DTA_int_03 1132.4004 if you had all the money in the world, 1134.4334 803 DTA_int_03 1134.4334 (pause 0.50) 1134.9370 804 DTA_int_03 1134.9370 just sort of dumped in your lap. What would you do with it? 1137.3711 805 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1140.1932 Hm. 1140.7108 806 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1140.7108 (pause 2.16) 1142.8681 807 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1142.8681 Well I'd get a nice home, a nice car, and put the rest up. 1147.4797 808 DTA_int_03 1147.8154 Mm-hm. 1148.2351 809 DTA_int_03 1148.2351 (pause 0.29) 1148.5253 810 DTA_int_03 1148.5253 Mm-hm. 1148.8564 811 DTA_int_03 1148.8564 (pause 1.37) 1150.2226 812 DTA_int_03 1150.2226 Uh, 1150.6957 813 DTA_int_03 1150.6957 (pause 3.79) 1154.4856 814 DTA_int_03 1154.4856 what do they call this part of town? 1156.0820 815 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1158.5994 Krainz 1159.4876 816 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1159.4876 (pause 0.73) 1160.2221 817 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1160.2221 Woods. 1160.9767 818 DTA_int_03 1161.2806 /Krainzton Woods?/ 1162.2689 819 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1162.2935 Mm-hm. 1162.7785 820 DTA_int_03 1163.3194 What are the boundaries about? 1164.5550 821 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1170.8044 I 1171.4444 822 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1171.4444 (pause 1.08) 1172.5262 823 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1172.5262 am afraid to say what I 1174.2488 824 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1174.2488 (pause 0.89) 1175.1420 825 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1175.1420 believe. 1176.0840 826 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1176.0840 (pause 1.81) 1177.8962 827 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1177.8962 Nevada 1179.0759 828 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1179.0759 (pause 2.66) 1181.7338 829 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1181.7338 and Ryan Road. 1182.9566 830 DTA_int_03 1183.2923 Mm-hm. 1183.7117 831 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1187.6691 And I'm not sure whether Seven Mile or not. 1190.2710 832 DTA_int_03 1190.5881 Mm-hm. 1191.0293 833 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1192.1688 North, and I don't know what it is East- uh, 1194.8906 834 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1194.8906 (pause 0.49) 1195.3799 835 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1195.3799 further East. I don't [know.] 1196.8441 836 DTA_int_03 1196.4944 [Mm-hm.] 1196.8136 837 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1197.1845 I did have a- 1198.0611 838 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1198.0611 (pause 0.25) 1198.3129 839 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1198.3129 a paper with that, I think, with that, uh, 1200.9513 840 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1200.9513 (pause 0.31) 1201.2618 841 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1201.2618 information. But I don't remember now. 1203.1978 842 DTA_int_03 1204.8758 Uh, what are some of the streets of Detroit? 1206.8956 843 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1208.3310 Out here or where? Any- anywhere? 1210.4937 844 DTA_int_03 1210.6375 Or the ones that come to your mind [immediately.] 1212.5419 845 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1212.4234 [] 1212.9317 846 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1214.3585 Atkinson, 1215.2755 847 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1215.2755 (pause 0.13) 1215.4061 848 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1215.4061 Twelfth Street, 1216.4132 849 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1216.4132 (pause 3.03) 1219.4441 850 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1219.4441 Kendall, 1220.1342 851 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1220.1342 (pause 0.62) 1220.7497 852 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1220.7497 no that's Allen Park. 1222.1590 853 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1222.1590 (pause 1.97) 1224.1268 854 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1224.1268 Um, 1224.9032 855 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1224.9032 (pause 1.73) 1226.6319 856 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1226.6319 Justine, 1227.7043 857 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1227.7043 (pause 1.24) 1228.9400 858 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1228.9400 Syracuse. 1230.0299 859 DTA_int_03 1234.5432 What about the big ones 1235.7274 860 DTA_int_03 1235.7274 (pause 0.32) 1236.0446 861 DTA_int_03 1236.0446 in Detroit? 1236.7394 862 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1237.8270 Like Woodward? 1238.5366 863 DTA_int_03 1238.8030 /inaudible/ 1239.3276 864 DTA_int_03 1239.3276 (pause 0.57) 1239.8926 865 DTA_int_03 1239.8926 Woodward and? 1240.5967 866 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1241.8409 Woodward, Gratiot, Jefferson, 1243.9322 867 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1243.9322 (pause 0.29) 1244.2237 868 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1244.2237 Michigan. 1244.8709 869 DTA_int_03 1245.1201 Mm-hm. 1245.4741 870 DTA_int_03 1245.4741 (pause 0.35) 1245.8242 871 DTA_int_03 1245.8242 Mm-hm. 1246.1366 872 DTA_int_03 1246.1366 (pause 1.61) 1247.7453 873 DTA_int_03 1247.7453 Uh, what about the one that goes out to the [west?] 1250.1892 874 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1250.1291 Grand River. 1250.9358 875 DTA_int_03 1251.0057 Mm-hm. 1251.3758 876 DTA_int_03 1251.3758 (pause 0.92) 1252.2974 877 DTA_int_03 1252.2974 Do you have any special name for the big 1253.9985 878 DTA_int_03 1253.9985 (pause 0.39) 1254.3855 879 DTA_int_03 1254.3855 roads that 1255.2622 880 DTA_int_03 1255.2622 (pause 0.43) 1255.6958 881 DTA_int_03 1255.6958 you don't have to stop on? 1257.1471 882 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1261.6133 Uh, 1262.0400 883 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1262.0400 (pause 1.37) 1263.4132 884 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1263.4132 through street. 1264.4997 885 DTA_int_03 1264.8058 Okay, or- 1265.5793 886 DTA_int_03 1265.5793 (pause 0.20) 1265.7757 887 DTA_int_03 1265.7757 or what about the northwestern highways up there? 1267.8626 888 DTA_int_03 1267.8626 (pause 0.85) 1268.7133 889 DTA_int_03 1268.7133 What do you call those? 1269.6132 890 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1271.5728 Express- oh, uh, expressway, a freeway. 1274.7249 891 DTA_int_03 1274.8648 Mm-hm. 1275.2425 892 DTA_int_03 1275.2425 (pause 1.40) 1276.6471 893 DTA_int_03 1276.6471 Uh, 1276.9269 894 DTA_int_03 1276.9269 (pause 1.21) 1278.1392 895 DTA_int_03 1278.1392 you were born in, uh, 1279.5941 896 DTA_int_03 1279.5941 (pause 1.24) 1280.8328 897 DTA_int_03 1280.8328 [Tennessee.] 1281.4623 898 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1281.3970 [Tennessee.] 1282.2176 899 DTA_int_03 1282.2176 In Humboldt? 1282.9404 900 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1283.5792 No, I was born in a 1284.9408 901 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1284.9408 (pause 0.22) 1285.1646 902 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1285.1646 little town, Bells, Tennessee. About 1287.8683 903 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1287.8683 (pause 0.39) 1288.2553 904 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1288.2553 ten miles below Humboldt, on a farm. 1291.0504 905 DTA_int_03 1291.0775 Mm-hm. 1291.5288 906 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1291.5624 And when we were ten years old, my mother moved to, um, 1294.8956 907 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1294.8956 (pause 0.27) 1295.1611 908 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1295.1611 Humboldt. 1295.8048 909 DTA_int_03 1296.0986 [Mm-hm.] 1296.3915 910 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1296.3402 [To] have us in a better school. 1298.1961 911 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1298.6950 It was just two of us, my brother and I. 1300.8283 912 DTA_int_03 1301.5498 And then, uh, 1302.2696 913 DTA_int_03 1302.2696 (pause 1.33) 1303.6015 914 DTA_int_03 1303.6015 when you left Humboldt did you go to Gary, or? 1306.1346 915 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1306.8526 I left- 1307.3677 916 DTA_int_03 1309.1833 It's alright. 1309.5374 917 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1309.6496 left Humboldt. 1310.6241 918 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1310.6241 (pause 0.56) 1311.1837 919 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1311.1837 Yes, I went to Gary, Indiana. 1313.1057 920 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1313.1057 (pause 1.64) 1314.7453 921 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1314.7453 That's where my 1315.5473 922 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1315.5473 (pause 2.02) 1317.5694 923 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1317.5694 first husband 1319.1035 924 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1319.1035 (pause 1.29) 1320.3951 925 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1320.3951 he left and went to 1321.8870 926 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1321.8870 (pause 1.37) 1323.2546 927 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1323.2546 Pennsylvania. 1324.4635 928 DTA_int_03 1324.8027 Mm-hm. 1325.1291 929 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1325.1291 Then he left from there and went to Gary, 1326.9487 930 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1327.0839 where his brother was, and sent for me. 1329.1147 931 DTA_int_03 1329.5972 Mm-hm. 1329.9368 932 DTA_int_03 1329.9368 (pause 0.64) 1330.5756 933 DTA_int_03 1330.5756 What happened to him? May I ask? 1332.3196 934 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1333.9088 September 1335.6256 935 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1335.6256 (pause 1.73) 1337.3585 936 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1337.3585 the twenty-eighth, 1338.6548 937 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1338.6548 (pause 0.52) 1339.1771 938 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1339.1771 Friday night, 1340.2775 939 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1340.2775 (pause 0.28) 1340.5537 940 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1340.5537 ten o'clock, nineteen seventeen, 1342.9526 941 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1342.9526 (pause 0.43) 1343.3794 942 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1343.3794 him and five men was killed in the Illinois Steel Mill. 1346.7145 943 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1346.7145 (pause 11.84) 1358.5504 944 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1358.5504 His name was /RD-NAME-3/. 1360.3462 945 DTA_int_03 1361.2968 Was he from Humboldt? 1362.5246 946 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1362.7714 Oh, yes. We married in Humboldt. He was- 1364.7158 947 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1364.7158 (pause 0.22) 1364.9379 948 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1364.9379 that was his home 1365.9349 949 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1365.9349 (pause 0.21) 1366.1473 950 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1366.1473 in Humboldt. 1366.9307 951 DTA_int_03 1370.2864 And then what did you do? 1371.4343 952 DTA_int_03 1371.4343 (pause 0.69) 1372.1282 953 DTA_int_03 1372.1282 Did you go home to Humboldt or 1373.7120 954 DTA_int_03 1373.7120 (pause 0.69) 1374.4068 955 DTA_int_03 1374.4068 did you stay in Gary? 1375.4426 956 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1376.5330 I 1377.3240 957 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1377.3240 (pause 1.21) 1378.5334 958 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1378.5334 went back 1379.3618 959 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1379.3618 (pause 0.10) 1379.4644 960 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1379.4644 to Humboldt. 1380.5602 961 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1380.5602 (pause 2.17) 1382.7331 962 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1382.7331 And stayed that winter. 1384.3033 963 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1384.3033 (pause 0.48) 1384.7801 964 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1384.7801 Cause he was, as I said it was September nineteen seventeen. 1388.0715 965 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1388.0715 (pause 1.17) 1389.2455 966 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1389.2455 And I went back to my mother's house and I spent the 1392.3222 967 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1392.3222 (pause 0.19) 1392.5134 968 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1392.5134 winter there, but I didn't like it 1394.7283 969 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1394.7283 (pause 0.29) 1395.0212 970 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1395.0212 anymore. 1395.7486 971 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1395.7486 (pause 0.86) 1396.6066 972 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1396.6066 So in the spring I came back to Gary 1398.9279 973 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1398.9279 (pause 0.11) 1399.0352 974 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1399.0352 because he had a brother 1400.5593 975 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1400.5593 (pause 1.68) 1402.2369 976 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1402.2369 and I had an aunt and a first cousin back- came back to Gary. 1405.9160 977 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1405.9160 (pause 1.50) 1407.4158 978 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1407.4158 And I 1408.0558 979 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1408.0558 (pause 0.35) 1408.4043 980 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1408.4043 stayed there, 1409.2315 981 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1409.2315 (pause 1.14) 1410.3721 982 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1410.3721 then I sent- I had this 1411.5607 983 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1411.5607 (pause 0.13) 1411.6917 984 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1411.6917 one child 1412.5624 985 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1412.5624 (pause 2.16) 1414.7237 986 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1414.7237 and 1415.5407 987 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1415.5407 (pause 0.57) 1416.1086 988 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1416.1086 I sent for my mother. She came up. 1418.2158 989 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1418.2158 (pause 0.13) 1418.3506 990 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1418.3506 She was a widow woman then. 1419.6935 991 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1419.6935 (pause 1.14) 1420.8324 992 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1420.8324 And, uh, 1421.9880 993 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1421.9880 (pause 2.93) 1424.9135 994 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1424.9135 well she got tired of Gary and she went back to her home in Tennessee. And I came here to- 1430.0101 995 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1430.0101 (pause 1.35) 1431.3634 996 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1431.3634 my brother was here, and I came here. 1433.1644 997 DTA_int_03 1433.9785 Mm-hm. 1434.3515 998 DTA_int_03 1434.3515 (pause 5.45) 1439.8016 999 DTA_int_03 1439.8016 And, um, 1440.5524 1000 DTA_int_03 1440.5524 (pause 2.48) 1443.0341 1001 DTA_int_03 1443.0341 then, uh, have you been outside of Detroit on- 1445.5326 1002 DTA_int_03 1445.5326 (pause 0.30) 1445.8357 1003 DTA_int_03 1445.8357 on trips 1446.6600 1004 DTA_int_03 1446.6600 (pause 0.61) 1447.2717 1005 DTA_int_03 1447.2717 since then? 1447.9294 1006 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1448.8899 Mm, [yes.] 1449.9748 1007 DTA_int_03 1449.8991 [Been] anywhere besides Tennessee? 1451.5898 1008 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1453.2574 Yes. 1453.9744 1009 DTA_int_03 1454.2786 Where'd you go? 1454.8801 1010 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1454.9221 1455.4082 1011 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1455.4082 (pause 0.81) 1456.2148 1012 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1456.2148 Well, 1456.7091 1013 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1456.7091 (pause 0.28) 1456.9889 1014 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1456.9889 the 1457.5624 1015 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1457.5624 (pause 0.45) 1458.0101 1016 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1458.0101 ninth 1459.2422 1017 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1459.2422 (pause 1.07) 1460.3080 1018 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1460.3080 of June 1461.2453 1019 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1461.2453 (pause 1.25) 1462.4949 1020 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1462.4949 we flew from Los Angeles 1464.7966 1021 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1464.7966 (pause 0.14) 1464.9320 1022 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1464.9320 to Honolulu 1465.9206 1023 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1465.9206 (pause 0.29) 1466.2097 1024 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1466.2097 [this year.] 1466.8656 1025 DTA_int_03 1466.3161 [Wow.] 1466.6775 1026 DTA_int_03 1467.4919 [ How long were you there?] 1469.1744 1027 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1467.8603 [It was] 1468.5356 1028 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1468.5356 (pause 0.15) 1468.6848 1029 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1468.6848 [lovely] trip. 1469.5428 1030 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1470.1117 We went there on a 1471.6384 1031 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1471.6384 (pause 1.30) 1472.9385 1032 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1472.9385 Monday, 1473.6892 1033 DTA_int_03 1473.7918 Mm-hm. 1474.2535 1034 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1474.8876 And got back to Los Angeles Friday. 1477.1949 1035 DTA_int_03 1477.6071 Mm-hm. 1477.9550 1036 DTA_int_03 1477.9550 (pause 0.81) 1478.7617 1037 DTA_int_03 1478.7617 What'd you do? Can you tell me about it? 1480.4581 1038 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1480.9338 The trip? 1481.5215 1039 DTA_int_03 1481.6472 Mm-hm. 1481.9810 1040 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1482.9846 Well, 1483.8659 1041 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1483.8659 (pause 0.32) 1484.1877 1042 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1484.1877 you see f- um, 1485.6938 1043 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1485.6938 (pause 2.30) 1487.9890 1044 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1487.9890 uh, 1488.9846 1045 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1488.9846 (pause 1.53) 1490.5155 1046 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1490.5155 this church that I- this church of God in Christ, they, um, 1493.7068 1047 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1493.7068 (pause 0.59) 1494.2982 1048 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1494.2982 had a women's convention 1495.9023 1049 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1495.9023 (pause 0.21) 1496.1074 1050 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1496.1074 in Los Angeles. 1497.4690 1051 DTA_int_03 1497.5716 Mm-hm. 1497.8887 1052 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1498.6580 Starting- 1499.3800 1053 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1499.3800 (pause 0.25) 1499.6318 1054 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1499.6318 it started the fourth of 1501.1077 1055 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1501.1077 (pause 0.75) 1501.8560 1056 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1501.8560 June 1502.7180 1057 DTA_int_03 1502.7664 Mm-hm. 1503.0929 1058 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1503.9834 and convened 1505.2053 1059 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1505.2053 (pause 1.71) 1506.9109 1060 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1506.9109 the 1507.7990 1061 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1507.7990 (pause 3.89) 1511.6934 1062 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1511.6934 nine- n- I'm about to get- about to forget already. Eighth of June. 1515.5232 1063 DTA_int_03 1515.7885 Mm-hm. 1516.1336 1064 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1517.5697 And, uh, then they had a 1519.4722 1065 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1519.4722 (pause 0.37) 1519.8452 1066 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1519.8452 1519.9991 1067 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1519.9991 (pause 0.19) 1520.1921 1068 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1520.1921 post-convention in 1521.8300 1069 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1521.8300 (pause 0.37) 1522.1984 1070 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1522.1984 Honolulu. 1522.9530 1071 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1522.9530 (pause 0.75) 1523.6998 1072 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1523.6998 And there's a hundred and five 1525.2992 1073 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1525.2992 (pause 1.81) 1527.1076 1074 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1527.1076 went over there, so naturally the, um, 1529.6722 1075 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1529.6722 (pause 0.76) 1530.4353 1076 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1530.4353 1530.5565 1077 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1530.5565 (pause 0.55) 1531.1021 1078 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1531.1021 uh, 1532.0813 1079 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1532.0813 (pause 2.35) 1534.4267 1080 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1534.4267 let's see, the lodging, 1535.6437 1081 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1535.6437 (pause 2.10) 1537.7431 1082 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1537.7431 uh, 1538.2048 1083 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1538.2048 (pause 0.25) 1538.4566 1084 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1538.4566 I bet that, 1539.2166 1085 DTA_int_03 1543.1959 /everybody's staying there/. 1543.9618 1086 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1544.0737 uh, 1544.3625 1087 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1544.3625 (pause 0.23) 1544.5960 1088 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1544.5960 the lodging. 1545.6078 1089 DTA_int_03 1546.3446 Mm-hm. 1546.5985 1090 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1546.8838 And the, uh, 1548.1288 1091 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1548.1288 (pause 0.41) 1548.5345 1092 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1548.5345 touring 1549.3777 1093 DTA_int_03 1549.6256 Mm-hm. 1549.9847 1094 DTA_int_03 1549.9847 (pause 15.86) 1565.8438 1095 DTA_int_03 1565.8438 They took care of that 1566.7857 1096 DTA_int_03 1566.7857 (pause 0.15) 1566.9336 1097 DTA_int_03 1566.9336 for you? 1567.3148 1098 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1569.0724 that's the /man I see/. 1570.1188 1099 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1570.1188 (pause 0.76) 1570.8789 1100 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1570.8789 Darling 1571.5320 1101 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1571.5320 (pause 1.08) 1572.6099 1102 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1572.6099 Who was that? 1573.4399 1103 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1573.4399 (pause 1.55) 1574.9880 1104 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1574.9880 Oh. 1575.3238 1105 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1575.3238 (pause 0.68) 1576.0045 1106 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1576.0045 I was looking for somebody, but 1577.6975 1107 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1577.6975 (pause 0.35) 1578.0425 1108 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1578.0425 that's 1578.3847 1109 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1578.3847 (pause 0.13) 1578.5137 1110 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1578.5137 one of his friends. That's alright. So anyway, um, 1580.8049 1111 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1580.8049 (pause 1.59) 1582.3949 1112 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1582.3949 1582.5183 1113 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1582.5183 (pause 0.18) 1582.6934 1114 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1582.6934 they paid for the, uh, 1584.5785 1115 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1584.5785 (pause 0.57) 1585.1460 1116 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1585.1460 lodging and the touring 1586.9097 1117 DTA_int_03 1587.1802 Mm-hm. 1587.5125 1118 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1588.3925 and 1589.0080 1119 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1589.0080 (pause 0.86) 1589.8671 1120 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1589.8671 course we had f- 1590.5619 1121 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1590.5619 (pause 0.44) 1591.0049 1122 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1591.0049 furnish- 1591.6855 1123 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1591.6855 (pause 0.25) 1591.9395 1124 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1591.9395 I mean, 1592.2778 1125 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1592.2778 (pause 0.09) 1592.3711 1126 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1592.3711 buy our 1592.9726 1127 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1592.9726 (pause 0.35) 1593.3223 1128 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1593.3223 own meals. 1594.0917 1129 DTA_int_03 1594.3109 Mm-hm. 1594.6652 1130 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1595.6102 And the sightseeing, it really was interesting. 1598.3753 1131 DTA_int_03 1598.6504 Oh, [how lovely.] 1599.5807 1132 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1598.9628 [Mm-hm.] And the Dole pineapple, uh, 1601.7013 1133 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1603.1539 factory. 1603.9979 1134 DTA_int_03 1604.2574 Yeah. 1604.6434 1135 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1605.9827 And 1606.6169 1136 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1606.6169 (pause 0.43) 1607.0505 1137 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1607.0505 we toured Pearl Harbor. 1608.4680 1138 DTA_int_03 1609.3213 Did you? 1609.7550 1139 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1611.3994 And, uh, it was quite interesting out in the 1614.3076 1140 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1614.3076 (pause 0.22) 1614.5282 1141 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1614.5282 rural district, on the 1615.9970 1142 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1615.9970 (pause 0.56) 1616.5612 1143 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1616.5612 island. 1617.1954 1144 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1617.1954 (pause 1.11) 1618.3016 1145 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1618.3016 You see the grass huts and goats around, standing around. 1622.3528 1146 DTA_int_03 1622.4694 Mm-hm. 1622.9178 1147 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1623.2994 And the trees, they were beautiful. 1625.2383 1148 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1625.2383 (pause 2.91) 1628.1518 1149 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1628.1518 It was quite an interesting trip, I 1630.1476 1150 DTA_int_03 1630.8314 Mm-hm. 1631.0832 1151 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1631.0832 think. Uh-huh. 1631.8552 1152 DTA_int_03 1633.6571 How do you- l- can I switch the subject now? 1636.3685 1153 DTA_int_03 1636.3685 (pause 0.15) 1636.5146 1154 DTA_int_03 1636.5146 Um, [how do you] celebrate Christmas? When you were a kid, how did you? 1639.8319 1155 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1636.6126 [Mm-hm.] 1637.0915 1156 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1641.1841 Oh, with, um, 1642.3929 1157 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1642.3929 (pause 2.46) 1644.8503 1158 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1644.8503 toys 1645.7269 1159 DTA_int_03 1645.8819 Mm-hm. 1646.2409 1160 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1646.5580 and- 1647.0989 1161 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1647.0989 (pause 0.61) 1647.7097 1162 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1647.7097 when I was a kid, yeah, toys 1649.5283 1163 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1649.5283 (pause 0.22) 1649.7521 1164 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1649.7521 cake, 1650.2137 1165 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1650.2137 (pause 0.12) 1650.3303 1166 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1650.3303 fruit. 1650.9496 1167 DTA_int_03 1651.1595 Mm-hm. 1651.4744 1168 DTA_int_03 1651.4744 (pause 1.21) 1652.6851 1169 DTA_int_03 1652.6851 Did you have a tree? 1653.3440 1170 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1654.9002 No, we didn't have a trees when we were- the other people that could afford them had them. 1659.8853 1171 DTA_int_03 1660.3756 [Yeah.] 1660.5574 1172 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1660.4922 [But] we didn't have a [tree.] 1662.2445 1173 DTA_int_03 1661.8957 [You weren't] in scrub pine territory then. 1664.0818 1174 DTA_int_03 1665.3314 You couldn't just go out and cut one down? 1666.9366 1175 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1668.2329 Well they- 1668.8157 1176 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1668.8157 (pause 0.15) 1668.9649 1177 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1668.9649 well, no they didn't use those. 1670.8685 1178 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1670.8685 (pause 0.17) 1671.0364 1179 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1671.0364 Or that- no, you know, the hollyhock is what they call a Christmas tree. 1674.7443 1180 DTA_int_03 1674.8600 Mm-hm. 1675.2516 1181 DTA_int_03 1675.2516 (pause 1.06) 1676.3093 1182 DTA_int_03 1676.3093 Or, you're [really special.] 1677.7921 1183 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1676.7243 [Down there.] 1677.3818 1184 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1677.8807 [Uh-huh.] 1678.3490 1185 DTA_int_03 1678.2483 [I mean,] those get [expensive.] 1679.6816 1186 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1679.6052 [Um,] and, uh, 1680.9154 1187 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1681.7866 but we would 1682.3463 1188 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1682.3463 (pause 0.11) 1682.4580 1189 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1682.4580 uh, a lot of times the church would have a Christmas tree and you'd get your gifts under that, 1686.9103 1190 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1686.9103 (pause 0.19) 1687.1034 1191 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1687.1034 [things.] 1687.5771 1192 DTA_int_03 1687.2834 [Mm-hm.] 1687.5771 1193 DTA_int_03 1688.7746 Um, 1689.1430 1194 DTA_int_03 1689.1430 (pause 0.91) 1690.0515 1195 DTA_int_03 1690.0515 what did you say when you gave each other presents? 1692.1544 1196 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1693.9823 Uh, 1694.7443 1197 DTA_int_03 1695.0847 Merry [Christmas?] 1695.5894 1198 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1695.4588 [Merry] Christmas. 1696.6152 1199 DTA_int_03 1696.7178 And what would you say in the morning when you woke up? 1698.8366 1200 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1700.5965 On Christmas morning? 1701.6130 1201 DTA_int_03 1701.7622 Yeah. 1702.0140 1202 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1702.0373 Merry Christmas. 1703.1836 1203 DTA_int_03 1703.2629 Would you ever say Christmas Gift? 1704.6059 1204 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1704.8856 Uh, sure did. I s- 1706.3063 1205 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1706.3063 (pause 0.32) 1706.6287 1206 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1706.6287 Christmas Gift. 1707.5846 1207 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1707.5846 (pause 1.55) 1709.1373 1208 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1709.1373 Yes, we did. 1710.1474 1209 DTA_int_03 1710.5746 Mm-hm. 1710.8590 1210 DTA_int_03 1710.8590 (pause 0.29) 1711.1443 1211 DTA_int_03 1711.1443 They don't do that in the north, do they? 1713.1659 1212 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1714.1494 N- 1715.1753 1213 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1715.1753 (pause 0.18) 1715.3571 1214 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1715.3571 I don't think I've heard so much of it lately. 1717.4881 1215 DTA_int_03 1717.8005 Mm-hm. 1718.1968 1216 DTA_int_03 1718.1968 (pause 0.76) 1718.9522 1217 DTA_int_03 1718.9522 Uh, 1719.3210 1218 DTA_int_03 1719.3210 (pause 0.33) 1719.6555 1219 DTA_int_03 1719.6555 what do you do on the last day of October? 1721.7105 1220 DTA_int_03 1721.7105 (pause 0.42) 1722.1268 1221 DTA_int_03 1722.1268 Did you ever go out? 1723.1804 1222 DTA_int_03 1723.1804 (pause 0.86) 1724.0397 1223 DTA_int_03 1724.0397 [/inaudible./] 1724.4751 1224 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1724.1143 [Halloween.] 1724.7627 1225 DTA_int_03 1724.7578 Mm-hm. 1725.0516 1226 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1725.3500 Mm, yes I did. 1726.7116 1227 DTA_int_03 1727.2105 What would you dress as? 1728.2801 1228 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1730.9252 Well, when I was a 1732.2293 1229 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1732.2293 (pause 0.25) 1732.4779 1230 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1732.4779 youngster 1733.4749 1231 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1733.4749 (pause 0.18) 1733.6530 1232 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1733.6530 dress, uh, 1734.6287 1233 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1734.6287 (pause 0.52) 1735.1509 1234 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1735.1509 the women, 1735.8690 1235 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1735.8690 (pause 0.34) 1736.2047 1236 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1736.2047 girls, 1736.8016 1237 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1736.8016 (pause 0.11) 1736.9088 1238 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1736.9088 put on men's clothes. 1738.2657 1239 DTA_int_03 1738.3847 Mm-hm. 1738.7388 1240 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1738.8664 And it'd be something different for people. 1740.3212 1241 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1740.3212 (pause 0.35) 1740.6756 1242 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1740.6756 Not so much now. 1742.2024 1243 DTA_int_03 1743.0595 What would do? Would you say anything when you went to the door? 1745.5215 1244 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1747.8754 Uh, no. We didn't do that. This, uh, trick or treat, 1751.5090 1245 DTA_int_03 1751.8260 Mm-hm. 1752.1163 1246 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1752.3389 uh, 1752.7446 1247 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1752.7446 (pause 1.39) 1754.1388 1248 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1754.1388 they're- 1754.5157 1249 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1754.5157 (pause 1.33) 1755.8493 1250 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1755.8493 when I was, 1756.9264 1251 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1756.9264 (pause 0.14) 1757.0710 1252 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1757.0710 you know, a 1757.8663 1253 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1757.8663 (pause 0.39) 1758.2565 1254 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1758.2565 young woman and we'd go out, we didn't go- if you say trick or treat, we just go up and down the streets, just 1764.0283 1255 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1764.0283 (pause 0.32) 1764.3501 1256 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1764.3501 watching the different people in the different costumes. 1767.2134 1257 DTA_int_03 1767.3700 Mm-hm. 1767.7477 1258 DTA_int_03 1767.7477 (pause 0.25) 1767.9995 1259 DTA_int_03 1767.9995 Mm-hm. 1768.3188 1260 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1768.5497 This I notice 1769.5149 1261 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1769.5149 (pause 0.15) 1769.6688 1262 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1769.6688 my children and the grandchildren 1771.5013 1263 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1771.5013 (pause 0.46) 1771.9621 1264 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1771.9621 they go to door to door and say trick or treat. 1774.1564 1265 DTA_int_03 1774.3449 Mm-hm. 1774.6671 1266 DTA_int_03 1774.6671 (pause 0.26) 1774.9242 1267 DTA_int_03 1774.9242 Mm-hm. 1775.1753 1268 DTA_int_03 1775.1753 (pause 0.56) 1775.7402 1269 DTA_int_03 1775.7402 But you didn't? 1776.5002 1270 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1776.6168 Mm-mm. 1777.1904 1271 DTA_int_03 1778.1183 Uh, 1778.4405 1272 DTA_int_03 1778.4405 (pause 0.47) 1778.9055 1273 DTA_int_03 1778.9055 when you were a kid, did you ever get into fights? 1780.9758 1274 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1783.0873 Yes, I did. 1784.3276 1275 DTA_int_03 1785.0224 Was there such a thing as a fair fight? 1786.7235 1276 DTA_int_03 1786.7235 (pause 2.48) 1789.2034 1277 DTA_int_03 1789.2034 You know, I'm- 1789.8855 1278 DTA_int_03 1789.8855 (pause 0.54) 1790.4297 1279 DTA_int_03 1790.4297 what were the rules for a fair fight? 1792.2195 1280 DTA_int_03 1792.2195 (pause 3.45) 1795.6694 1281 DTA_int_03 1795.6694 Among the guys, for instance. 1797.1792 1282 DTA_int_03 1797.1792 (pause 1.19) 1798.3654 1283 DTA_int_03 1798.3654 Did they say girls fought dirty? 1799.9256 1284 DTA_int_03 1799.9256 (pause 2.60) 1802.5286 1285 DTA_int_03 1802.5286 [Did the boys used to say girls] fight dirty? 1804.6083 1286 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1802.5893 [Well,] 1803.6953 1287 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1805.5074 yeah. I think that, you know, cause the girls scratch 'em up pretty bad in the face. 1810.0502 1288 DTA_int_03 1810.0922 Mm-hm. 1810.4838 1289 DTA_int_03 1810.4838 (pause 0.12) 1810.6051 1290 DTA_int_03 1810.6051 Mm-hm. 1810.9258 1291 DTA_int_03 1810.9258 (pause 0.91) 1811.8314 1292 DTA_int_03 1811.8314 Uh, what- what couldn't a boy do if he were fighting another boy? 1815.3278 1293 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1816.9796 He couldn't pull his hair. [] 1818.9707 1294 DTA_int_03 1818.4344 [Mm-hm.] 1818.7885 1295 DTA_int_03 1819.0172 Mm-hm. 1820.2552 1296 DTA_int_03 1820.2552 (pause 0.30) 1820.5513 1297 DTA_int_03 1820.5513 Okay. 1821.1249 1298 DTA_int_03 1821.1249 (pause 0.47) 1821.5989 1299 DTA_int_03 1821.5989 Could he kick him? 1822.3076 1300 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1822.9744 Oh, yeah. They'd kick 1824.1075 1301 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1824.1075 (pause 0.26) 1824.3640 1302 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1824.3640 and s- scratching. 1825.5856 1303 DTA_int_03 1826.5928 Could he hit him in the stomach? 1827.9381 1304 DTA_int_03 1827.9381 (pause 1.34) 1829.2803 1305 DTA_int_03 1829.2803 Was that alright? 1829.9959 1306 DTA_int_03 1829.9959 (pause 0.48) 1830.4746 1307 DTA_int_03 1830.4746 Just hit him [anywhere?] 1831.4208 1308 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1831.0481 [Well,] when they start fighting- 1832.9646 1309 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1833.0905 fighting, when I was a youngster, we, 1835.5478 1310 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1835.5478 (pause 0.12) 1835.6691 1311 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1835.6691 you know, your- 1836.3592 1312 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1836.3592 (pause 0.65) 1837.0103 1313 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1837.0103 your stomach went right along with the rest of the body. [They didn't] stop, you [know, to say] well, 1841.6919 1314 DTA_int_03 1839.6589 [Mm-hm.] 1839.9946 1315 DTA_int_03 1839.9946 (pause 0.88) 1840.8795 1316 DTA_int_03 1840.8795 [Mm-hm.] 1841.2045 1317 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1841.9903 I won't hit him here, I won't hit him there. Just hit him wherever he could. 1844.8218 1318 DTA_int_03 1844.9804 Mm-hm. 1845.2561 1319 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1845.3161 Mm-hm. 1845.8477 1320 DTA_int_03 1846.2487 Could he hit him with a rock? 1847.4901 1321 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1847.9238 Wasn't supposed to, but they did [that.] 1849.8495 1322 DTA_int_03 1849.7824 [] 1850.7272 1323 DTA_int_03 1851.2018 Well, 1851.6589 1324 DTA_int_03 1851.6589 (pause 0.39) 1852.0504 1325 DTA_int_03 1852.0504 uh, if- if somebody did something that he wasn't supposed to, 1855.4508 1326 DTA_int_03 1855.4508 (pause 0.53) 1855.9824 1327 DTA_int_03 1855.9824 how- what would the other kids do? Would they try to stop him, or? 1858.9098 1328 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1860.2632 Sometimes they would, and sometimes they wouldn't. 1862.7159 1329 DTA_int_03 1862.7718 Mm-hm. 1863.1495 1330 DTA_int_03 1863.1495 (pause 0.12) 1863.2708 1331 DTA_int_03 1863.2708 Mm-hm. 1863.5599 1332 DTA_int_03 1863.5599 (pause 0.83) 1864.3945 1333 DTA_int_03 1864.3945 Were there any rules about 1865.6892 1334 DTA_int_03 1865.6892 (pause 1.57) 1867.2559 1335 DTA_int_03 1867.2559 how little a person you could start a fight with? 1869.6480 1336 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1870.2075 Yes, they, uh, you know, plenty times if the, 1872.8731 1337 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1872.8731 (pause 0.23) 1873.1062 1338 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1873.1062 uh, if it's a- 1874.3267 1339 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1874.3267 (pause 0.85) 1875.1812 1340 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1875.1812 a child 1876.0916 1341 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1876.0916 (pause 0.10) 1876.1942 1342 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1876.1942 much larger than the little one, the 1878.0779 1343 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1878.0779 (pause 0.13) 1878.2041 1344 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1878.2041 larger 1878.6702 1345 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1878.6702 (pause 0.15) 1878.8241 1346 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1878.8241 kids wouldn't let him fight him. Call him a big bully and they, 1881.5883 1347 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1881.5883 (pause 0.15) 1881.7376 1348 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1881.7376 you know, wouldn't let him fight the little one. 1883.3882 1349 DTA_int_03 1883.5421 Mm-hm. 1883.8452 1350 DTA_int_03 1883.8452 (pause 0.17) 1884.0177 1351 DTA_int_03 1884.0177 Mm-hm. 1884.3878 1352 DTA_int_03 1884.3878 (pause 1.46) 1885.8513 1353 DTA_int_03 1885.8513 Uh, 1886.2057 1354 DTA_int_03 1886.2057 (pause 0.23) 1886.4342 1355 DTA_int_03 1886.4342 did they of- did they fight one to one, or did they fight in gangs the way they do now? 1890.4426 1356 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1892.4365 No, they didn't fight in gangs then, not as much as they do n- not like now. Unless- you know, if the sister and brothers, 1898.1030 1357 DTA_int_03 1898.6563 [Mm-hm.] 1898.9523 1358 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1898.7588 [they would] always 1899.6383 1359 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1900.0132 jump in because, uh, 1901.1229 1360 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1901.1229 (pause 0.28) 1901.4027 1361 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1901.4027 that was the one thing I was bad about. My brother'd get out 1904.7087 1362 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1904.7087 (pause 0.36) 1905.0689 1363 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1905.0689 and somebody'd tell me some- 1906.6943 1364 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1906.6943 (pause 0.34) 1907.0366 1365 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1907.0366 he was the oldest, but they'd say, 1908.8738 1366 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1908.8738 (pause 0.36) 1909.2375 1367 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1909.2375 /RD-NAME-2/ 1909.8755 1368 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1909.8755 (pause 0.16) 1910.0337 1369 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1910.0337 uh, somebody's b- 1911.3956 1370 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1911.3956 (pause 0.29) 1911.6847 1371 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1911.6847 calling name, /RD-NAME-2/, and somebody 1913.5460 1372 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1913.5460 (pause 0.46) 1914.0033 1373 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1914.0033 fighting /RD-NAME-1/. 1914.8267 1374 DTA_int_03 1915.1531 Mm-hm. 1915.3816 1375 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1915.4142 And I'd go right around the corner if I was- if it was around behind the house or something, 1920.4019 1376 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1920.4019 (pause 0.11) 1920.5091 1377 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1920.5091 and I'd go to fighting 1921.8743 1378 DTA_int_03 1922.0910 Mm-hm. 1922.3943 1379 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1922.8790 uh, for my brother. And I have been, 1924.8188 1380 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1924.8188 (pause 0.21) 1925.0286 1381 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1925.0286 you know, 1925.6222 1382 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1925.6222 (pause 0.33) 1925.9472 1383 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1925.9472 running around there fighting so fast, I'd be fighting one that's trying to help my brother. And they'd [stop] me and that, 1930.8669 1384 DTA_int_03 1929.8418 [Mm-hm.] 1930.0900 1385 DTA_int_03 1931.2717 [Mm-hm.] 1931.5373 1386 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1931.4023 [but I] didn't know. I was a g- 1932.5447 1387 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1934.0461 I was more of a fighter than my brother. 1935.9487 1388 DTA_int_03 1936.2424 [Mm-hm.] 1936.4629 1389 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1936.3248 [But see,] I think I was shutting my eyes, I didn't seem to feel the licks, but. 1940.1371 1390 DTA_int_03 1940.1855 Mm-hm. 1940.5382 1391 DTA_int_03 1940.5382 (pause 0.16) 1940.6985 1392 DTA_int_03 1940.6985 [Mm-hm.] 1941.1556 1393 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1940.8990 [Yeah, but.] 1941.6637 1394 DTA_int_03 1941.9528 Uh, 1942.2348 1395 DTA_int_03 1942.2348 (pause 0.22) 1942.4517 1396 DTA_int_03 1942.4517 did- 1942.6747 1397 DTA_int_03 1942.6747 (pause 0.20) 1942.8733 1398 DTA_int_03 1942.8733 what did fights start about? 1944.0717 1399 DTA_int_03 1944.0717 (pause 1.34) 1945.4157 1400 DTA_int_03 1945.4157 Did they call names? 1946.3110 1401 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1947.4394 They didn't call names like the do now. 1949.3558 1402 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1949.3558 (pause 0.29) 1949.6460 1403 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1949.6460 Mm. 1950.1105 1404 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1950.1105 (pause 0.37) 1950.4854 1405 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1950.4854 [But,] 1950.8910 1406 DTA_int_03 1950.6206 [What] did- 1951.1988 1407 DTA_int_03 1951.3900 did they play The Dozens when they- when you were a kid? 1953.9471 1408 DTA_int_03 1953.9471 (pause 0.63) 1954.5805 1409 DTA_int_03 1954.5805 Or is that a new thing? 1955.6343 1410 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1956.6415 Yes, they played The Dozens, 1958.6699 1411 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1958.6699 (pause 0.26) 1958.9340 1412 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1958.9340 uh, 1959.5962 1413 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1959.5962 (pause 0.11) 1959.7034 1414 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1959.7034 but I tell you, they were- 1961.2095 1415 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1961.2095 (pause 0.20) 1961.4100 1416 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1961.4100 uh, children were more 1962.9255 1417 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1962.9255 (pause 1.86) 1964.7852 1418 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1964.7852 uh, say, like, um, 1966.3472 1419 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1966.3472 (pause 1.19) 1967.5363 1420 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1967.5363 my 1967.8906 1421 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1967.8906 (pause 0.17) 1968.0632 1422 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1968.0632 neighbor, 1968.9455 1423 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1968.9455 (pause 0.58) 1969.5284 1424 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1969.5284 uh, things that I shouldn't do or say 1971.8086 1425 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1971.8086 (pause 0.46) 1972.2702 1426 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1972.2702 I would have to be careful that my neighbor didn't hear, because she'd tell my mother. 1976.4699 1427 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1976.4699 (pause 0.37) 1976.8362 1428 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1976.8362 But the children don't have to worry about who hear what they say nowadays. But 1980.7854 1429 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1980.7854 (pause 0.22) 1981.0006 1430 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1981.0006 back then, I- 1981.8912 1431 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1981.8912 (pause 0.60) 1982.4880 1432 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1982.4880 and they didn't say as much. Didn't swear, uh, [anything] like they do. I don't mean to say they didn't swear at all, 1988.8960 1433 DTA_int_03 1985.1936 [Mm-hm.] 1985.4874 1434 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1989.9749 but they certainly was more careful. 1991.4643 1435 DTA_int_03 1991.9373 Mm-hm. 1992.2261 1436 DTA_int_03 1992.2261 (pause 0.70) 1992.9212 1437 DTA_int_03 1992.9212 About who [heard it.] 1993.8638 1438 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 1993.6299 [Uh,] who heard. Uh-huh. 1994.7723 1439 DTA_int_03 1995.7313 Uh, 1996.0344 1440 DTA_int_03 1996.0344 (pause 0.12) 1996.1556 1441 DTA_int_03 1996.1556 did the girls play The Dozens as well as the boys? Or was it j- just mainly a male thing? 2000.5006 1442 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2002.4357 Uh, 2003.4400 1443 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2003.4400 (pause 0.28) 2003.7164 1444 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2003.7164 there was different groups. 2005.6701 1445 DTA_int_03 2005.8706 Mm-hm. 2006.3902 1446 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2006.7193 Both boys and girls would d- 2008.3933 1447 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2008.3933 (pause 0.11) 2008.5005 1448 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2008.5005 play The Dozens, and fight more than the others. 2010.6093 1449 DTA_int_03 2010.6559 Mm-hm. 2011.1408 1450 DTA_int_03 2011.1408 (pause 0.80) 2011.9428 1451 DTA_int_03 2011.9428 Mm-hm. 2012.2459 1452 DTA_int_03 2012.2459 (pause 1.33) 2013.5795 1453 DTA_int_03 2013.5795 Uh, 2013.9133 1454 DTA_int_03 2013.9133 (pause 0.14) 2014.0551 1455 DTA_int_03 2014.0551 have you ever been in the hospital? 2015.4757 1456 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2017.0564 Yes. 2017.6253 1457 DTA_int_03 2018.6005 What was the worst illness you ever had? 2020.5902 1458 DTA_int_03 2020.5902 (pause 1.27) 2021.8557 1459 DTA_int_03 2021.8557 Can you tell me about it? 2022.7836 1460 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2026.6689 Uh, 2027.5875 1461 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2027.5875 (pause 2.66) 2030.2500 1462 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2030.2500 once 2031.1686 1463 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2031.1686 (pause 1.34) 2032.5052 1464 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2032.5052 I was there for a miscarriage. 2035.3119 1465 DTA_int_03 2035.8030 Mm-hm. 2036.1807 1466 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2036.6190 The baby had died. 2037.9153 1467 DTA_int_03 2038.1413 2038.2187 1468 DTA_int_03 2038.2187 (pause 0.13) 2038.3489 1469 DTA_int_03 2038.3489 Oh. 2038.7698 1470 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2039.6685 And, 2040.2094 1471 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2040.2094 (pause 1.59) 2041.8033 1472 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2041.8033 I've only been in the hospital twice. 2044.1301 1473 DTA_int_03 2044.4083 Mm-hm. 2044.8606 1474 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2045.2616 Once in nineteen seventeen, I had the- 2047.3972 1475 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2047.3972 (pause 0.39) 2047.7842 1476 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2047.7842 a eye taken out. 2049.1085 1477 DTA_int_03 2050.0907 Mm-hm. 2050.4767 1478 DTA_int_03 2050.4767 (pause 2.65) 2053.1263 1479 DTA_int_03 2053.1263 What happened? 2053.8490 1480 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2055.4204 [To-] 2055.8108 1481 DTA_int_03 2055.4900 [And why] did you have to have your eye? 2056.7897 1482 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2057.8202 The eye? 2058.3377 1483 DTA_int_03 2058.4590 Mm-hm. 2058.7623 1484 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2060.8511 When I was six months old 2062.3758 1485 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2062.3758 (pause 0.24) 2062.6136 1486 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2062.6136 we lived in the country. 2063.7385 1487 DTA_int_03 2064.0183 Mm-hm. 2064.2887 1488 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2064.6944 My mother 2065.2446 1489 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2065.2446 (pause 0.59) 2065.8321 1490 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2065.8321 and, uh, grandmother 2067.5519 1491 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2067.5519 (pause 0.23) 2067.7804 1492 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2067.7804 they came home from the field. 2069.4049 1493 DTA_int_03 2069.4049 Mm-hm. 2069.7271 1494 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2071.3794 And I was 2072.4344 1495 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2072.4344 (pause 1.57) 2074.0076 1496 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2074.0076 crying, so my grandmother thought maybe 2076.3819 1497 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2076.3819 (pause 0.74) 2077.1224 1498 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2077.1224 a 2077.2437 1499 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2077.2437 (pause 0.22) 2077.4675 1500 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2077.4675 pin was sticking me, you know, on the /drive/ or something. She searched me, no. 2080.8659 1501 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2080.8659 (pause 0.39) 2081.2529 1502 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2081.2529 So she laid me across her lap 2082.7777 1503 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2082.7777 (pause 0.39) 2083.1724 1504 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2083.1724 and got me to sleep. 2084.4221 1505 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2084.4221 (pause 0.64) 2085.0656 1506 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2085.0656 She didn't know what was the matter with me. 2086.7023 1507 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2086.7023 (pause 0.41) 2087.1172 1508 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2087.1172 So 2087.5835 1509 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2087.5835 (pause 0.12) 2087.7048 1510 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2087.7048 I went to sleep, 2088.5348 1511 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2088.5348 (pause 0.48) 2089.0197 1512 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2089.0197 when I woke up, 2089.8815 1513 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2089.8815 (pause 0.27) 2090.1473 1514 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2090.1473 I woke up screaming. She searched me again and my eye 2093.1094 1515 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2093.1094 (pause 0.43) 2093.5430 1516 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2093.5430 ball had swollen out from under the lid and she discovered it was my eye. 2097.4516 1517 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2097.4516 (pause 0.72) 2098.1744 1518 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2098.1744 Well now, there were th- 2099.3355 1519 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2099.3355 (pause 0.26) 2099.5919 1520 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2099.5919 two other children 2100.9474 1521 DTA_int_03 2101.3657 Mm-hm. 2101.6603 1522 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2102.0605 m- 2102.2051 1523 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2102.2051 (pause 0.13) 2102.3310 1524 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2102.3310 my brother 2103.1621 1525 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2103.1621 (pause 0.14) 2103.3066 1526 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2103.3066 which was a year and four months older than I was, 2105.8899 1527 DTA_int_03 2106.1510 Mm-hm. 2106.4354 1528 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2106.4354 and another child, a year old. 2108.5861 1529 DTA_int_03 2108.9778 Mm. 2109.1694 1530 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2109.4628 And the little girl, six years old, was sposta have been taking care of all of us, but 2113.4871 1531 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2113.4871 (pause 0.45) 2113.9329 1532 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2113.9329 they feel that some ways, some how, one of those children must've stuck a stick in my eye. 2118.2039 1533 DTA_int_03 2118.2600 [Mm-hm.] 2118.5677 1534 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2118.4745 [But] I wasn't old enough to tell it, and I don't know if they- 2121.0243 1535 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2121.7191 they were- I was six months old. 2123.1676 1536 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2123.1676 (pause 0.40) 2123.5686 1537 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2123.5686 So then I went on through with an eye from 2126.5762 1538 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2126.5762 (pause 1.05) 2127.6253 1539 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2127.6253 six months to nineteen seventeen. 2129.7341 1540 DTA_int_03 2130.0465 [Mm-hm.] 2130.3309 1541 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2130.1211 [Nineteen] seventeen, it began to give me trouble. 2132.5598 1542 DTA_int_03 2132.7474 [Mm-hm.] 2133.0225 1543 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2132.9153 [And I] went to the eye doctor, 2134.3981 1544 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2134.8691 even if I get a letter from my mother, just to read long enough to read that letter, my eyes would ache. So, 2140.9930 1545 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2140.9930 (pause 0.36) 2141.3535 1546 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2141.3535 so he said that I'd have to have that eye taken out. 2143.8959 1547 DTA_int_03 2144.4788 [Hm.] 2144.7026 1548 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2144.6047 [Then] it was gonna affect 2146.0315 1549 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2146.3579 the other one. So that's why I had it taken out. 2148.4346 1550 DTA_int_03 2148.6652 Mm-hm. 2148.9870 1551 DTA_int_03 2148.9870 (pause 0.44) 2149.4253 1552 DTA_int_03 2149.4253 Mm-hm. 2149.7446 1553 DTA_int_03 2149.7446 (pause 1.05) 2150.7962 1554 DTA_int_03 2150.7962 Um, 2151.1967 1555 DTA_int_03 2151.1967 (pause 0.40) 2151.5966 1556 DTA_int_03 2151.5966 were you ever in a situation where you thought you might die? 2154.3384 1557 DTA_int_03 2154.3384 (pause 1.97) 2156.3108 1558 DTA_int_03 2156.3108 Or be killed? 2157.2062 1559 DTA_int_03 2157.2062 (pause 2.61) 2159.8156 1560 DTA_int_03 2159.8156 Did you ever- did you ever get to the point where if you get- you know, that this is it. 2162.8978 1561 DTA_int_03 2162.8978 (pause 0.25) 2163.1441 1562 DTA_int_03 2163.1441 I'm not gonna get through this one alive. 2164.7217 1563 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2172.0945 Mm, 2172.6773 1564 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2172.6773 (pause 0.33) 2173.0039 1565 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2173.0039 no, I don't remember ever 2175.3305 1566 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2175.3305 (pause 0.59) 2175.9211 1567 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2175.9211 coming to- 2176.8677 1568 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2176.8677 (pause 1.16) 2178.0287 1569 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2178.0287 I remember being so sick I thought I was gonna die, I [guess.] 2182.1134 1570 DTA_int_03 2181.7824 [Mm-hm.] 2182.0944 1571 DTA_int_03 2184.9402 Well, uh, 2185.5791 1572 DTA_int_03 2185.5791 (pause 0.44) 2186.0174 1573 DTA_int_03 2186.0174 some people say whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen. 2189.3262 1574 DTA_int_03 2189.3262 (pause 0.65) 2189.9800 1575 DTA_int_03 2189.9800 What do you think about that? 2191.0396 1576 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2194.1265 2194.3410 1577 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2194.3410 (pause 1.34) 2195.6850 1578 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2195.6850 I don't 2196.2818 1579 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2196.2818 (pause 1.10) 2197.3823 1580 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2197.3823 know. I'm afraid you can, uh, 2200.4732 1581 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2200.4732 (pause 4.21) 2204.6866 1582 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2204.6866 shun, you know, sometime or careful thinking you can shun danger, or. 2209.2126 1583 DTA_int_03 2209.3712 Mm-hm. 2209.8002 1584 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2210.1919 I don't know, sometime I believe a person can do things to shorten his days. 2214.6791 1585 DTA_int_03 2214.8539 Mm-hm. 2215.2223 1586 DTA_int_03 2215.2223 (pause 0.22) 2215.4415 1587 DTA_int_03 2215.4415 Mm-hm. 2215.7679 1588 DTA_int_03 2215.7679 (pause 1.05) 2216.8228 1589 DTA_int_03 2216.8228 Think some people do? 2217.8160 1590 DTA_int_03 2217.8160 (pause 0.32) 2218.1331 1591 DTA_int_03 2218.1331 Mm-hm. 2218.3849 1592 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2218.4875 Yes. I kind of believe that. 2220.5395 1593 DTA_int_03 2221.5323 Well, thank you very much. Do you have any questions you'd like to ask me? 2225.0866 1594 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2225.7487 What did you say this was about? No wonder /RD-NAME-2/- /wonder did that she knows was-/ 2231.1226 1595 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2231.1226 (pause 0.33) 2231.4490 1596 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2231.4490 was going through this. 2232.6847 1597 DTA_int_03 2233.1043 Well, um, 2233.9446 1598 DTA_int_03 2233.9446 (pause 1.23) 2235.1793 1599 DTA_int_03 2235.1793 what it's for is to find out how Detroit people speak. 2238.6636 1600 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2239.6008 [Oh.] 2240.5062 1601 DTA_int_03 2239.8526 [And do you know, two] thirds of the people in Detroit are from somewhere else? 2242.9014 1602 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2243.1869 [Yes, I imagine] so. Yeah, I believe that. [/Yeah./] 2245.9753 1603 DTA_int_03 2243.7138 [] 2244.3853 1604 DTA_int_03 2244.3853 (pause 1.22) 2245.6070 1605 DTA_int_03 2245.6070 [Yeah,] so, uh, 2246.7121 1606 DTA_int_03 2247.8125 we just want to find out 2248.8896 1607 DTA_int_03 2248.8896 (pause 0.48) 2249.3710 1608 DTA_int_03 2249.3710 what people in Detroit talk like 2251.2595 1609 DTA_int_03 2251.2595 (pause 0.57) 2251.8330 1610 DTA_int_03 2251.8330 so that we can tell what to do with these 2253.8159 1611 DTA_int_03 2253.8159 (pause 0.45) 2254.2682 1612 DTA_int_03 2254.2682 people who are moving in. 2255.5878 1613 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2256.5064 [Oh.] 2257.0799 1614 DTA_int_03 2256.7022 [You know,] the 2257.2944 1615 DTA_int_03 2257.9604 th- 2258.2085 1616 DTA_int_03 2258.2085 (pause 0.40) 2258.6132 1617 DTA_int_03 2258.6132 Negro kids who come up from the south. 2260.6136 1618 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2260.7395 [Uh-huh.] 2261.3824 1619 DTA_int_03 2261.2329 [The southern] whites. 2262.1655 1620 DTA_int_03 2262.3194 People who live in southern Detroit, 2263.9607 1621 DTA_int_03 2263.9607 (pause 0.16) 2264.1193 1622 DTA_int_03 2264.1193 you know, 2264.4981 1623 DTA_int_03 2264.4981 (pause 0.47) 2264.9644 1624 DTA_int_03 2264.9644 we wanna know, okay. 2266.0695 1625 DTA_int_03 2266.0695 (pause 0.48) 2266.5451 1626 DTA_int_03 2266.5451 What can we tell the teachers 2267.9891 1627 DTA_se1_ag4_f_03 2268.5781 [I see, uh-huh.] 2270.6549 1628 DTA_int_03 2269.0408 [to teach them.] 2270.0480 1629 DTA_int_03 2271.5402 This sort of thing. 2272.4565