Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_01 0.2998 Alright. 0.5787 2 DTA_int_01 0.5787 (pause 0.11) 0.6885 3 DTA_int_01 0.6885 Um. 1.0443 4 DTA_int_01 1.0443 (pause 0.11) 1.1511 5 DTA_int_01 1.1511 What kind of 1.6454 6 DTA_int_01 1.6454 (pause 0.63) 2.2769 7 DTA_int_01 2.2769 games do the kids in this neighborhood play 4.4093 8 DTA_int_01 4.4093 (pause 0.11) 4.5222 9 DTA_int_01 4.5222 when they get together 5.5448 10 DTA_int_01 5.5448 (pause 0.45) 5.9930 11 DTA_int_01 5.9930 do things together? 6.7479 12 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 8.6214 Uh. Usually, the girls, they're 10.4145 13 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 10.4145 (pause 0.46) 10.8714 14 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 10.8714 skipping rope, 11.7257 15 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 11.7257 (pause 1.14) 12.8653 16 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 12.8653 uh, 13.3626 17 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 13.3626 (pause 0.28) 13.6412 18 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 13.6412 occasionally they will 14.7596 19 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 14.7596 (pause 0.70) 15.4583 20 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 15.4583 get some chalk and make little 17.0357 21 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 17.0357 (pause 1.23) 18.2646 22 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 18.2646 markings on the sidewalk, or, I forget what the uh 21.1877 23 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 21.1877 (pause 0.17) 21.3555 24 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 21.3555 na- ga- name of the games i- 22.8511 25 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 22.8511 (pause 0.54) 23.3954 26 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 23.3954 are. 23.7798 27 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 23.7798 (pause 0.94) 24.7151 28 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 24.7151 And uh, 25.5633 29 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 25.5633 (pause 0.13) 25.6945 30 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 25.6945 they play 26.3789 31 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 26.3789 (pause 1.47) 27.8526 32 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 27.8526 a little 28.3942 33 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 28.3942 (pause 0.97) 29.3614 34 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 29.3614 handball between the sidewalks. 31.3067 35 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 31.3067 (pause 1.20) 32.5087 36 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 32.5087 And occasionally, I take the boys down to 34.9511 37 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 34.9511 (pause 0.52) 35.4667 38 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 35.4667 the um, 36.0953 39 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 36.0953 (pause 0.33) 36.4265 40 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 36.4265 36.5302 41 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 36.5302 (pause 0.14) 36.6692 42 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 36.6692 field, at MacKay Field. 37.9110 43 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 37.9110 (pause 0.81) 38.7196 44 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 38.7196 And uh, we have some 40.0066 45 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 40.0066 (pause 0.68) 40.6900 46 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 40.6900 baseball 41.3360 47 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 41.3360 (pause 0.63) 41.9686 48 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 41.9686 and so forth. 42.8412 49 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 42.8412 (pause 0.74) 43.5838 50 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 43.5838 And that is just about the extent of it. Like, yesterday, we went out 46.5622 51 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 46.5622 (pause 0.12) 46.6781 52 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 46.6781 to Belle Isle and um, 47.7734 53 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 47.7734 (pause 0.54) 48.3165 54 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 48.3165 48.4629 55 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 48.4629 (pause 0.36) 48.8267 56 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 48.8267 we had a 49.3576 57 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 49.3576 (pause 0.19) 49.5513 58 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 49.5513 little baseball game out there. 50.9795 59 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 50.9795 (pause 0.14) 51.1224 60 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 51.1224 Um, 51.3055 61 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 51.3055 (pause 0.17) 51.4768 62 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 51.4768 girls and the boys, so forth. 53.1916 63 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 53.1916 (pause 1.28) 54.4730 64 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 54.4730 And, 54.8938 65 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 54.8938 (pause 1.00) 55.8977 66 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 55.8977 that's just it. They'll have a little, 57.3489 67 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 57.3489 (pause 1.07) 58.4154 68 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 58.4154 like now, they're playing checkers on the porch, often. 60.9608 69 DTA_int_01 61.3113 Oh. 61.5309 70 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 61.9348 Once in a while. 62.6365 71 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 62.6365 (pause 0.78) 63.4206 72 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 63.4206 And uh, 64.1190 73 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 64.1190 (pause 1.47) 65.5914 74 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 65.5914 well, that's about all I can think of right now. 67.6899 75 DTA_int_01 67.8917 Uh-huh. 68.1114 76 DTA_int_01 68.1114 (pause 0.49) 68.5965 77 DTA_int_01 68.5965 When you were a kid, do you remember some of the games that you used to play? 71.0520 78 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 71.3449 Yeah. 71.6049 79 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 71.6049 (pause 0.24) 71.8459 80 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 71.8459 Mm. 72.0198 81 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 72.0198 (pause 0.30) 72.3188 82 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 72.3188 Yeah, well baseball, one of my favorites. 74.2273 83 DTA_int_01 74.4098 Uh-huh. 74.7385 84 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 74.9412 And uh, 75.5758 85 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 75.5758 (pause 1.10) 76.6744 86 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 76.6744 uh, 77.2755 87 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 77.2755 (pause 2.00) 79.2791 88 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 79.2791 handball 79.9778 89 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 79.9778 (pause 0.28) 80.2554 90 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 80.2554 was 80.6643 91 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 80.6643 (pause 0.75) 81.4103 92 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 81.4103 one we played everyday, just about during the summer. 83.6640 93 DTA_int_01 84.0314 Mm-hm. 84.2481 94 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 84.5013 I would look forward to it every day. And a game called pum-pum pete away 88.7499 95 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 88.7499 (pause 0.63) 89.3765 96 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 89.3765 come and find my hideaway. 90.9203 97 DTA_int_01 91.4050 [Uh-huh.] 91.7417 98 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 91.5484 [That] was one of 'em. 92.5186 99 DTA_int_01 92.8256 Uh. What were the rules for that? 93.9466 100 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 94.6789 Well, uh, if I can remember 96.4082 101 DTA_int_01 96.7354 Huh. 96.9788 102 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 97.6701 closely, we'd- 98.5976 103 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 98.5976 (pause 0.77) 99.3726 104 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 99.3726 I think 99.7898 105 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 99.7898 (pause 0.11) 99.8965 106 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 99.8965 we'd have uh, someone in the s- 101.4464 107 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 101.4464 (pause 0.23) 101.6783 108 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 101.6783 center 102.3983 109 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 102.3983 (pause 0.08) 102.4784 110 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 102.4784 in a little ring, 103.4023 111 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 103.4023 (pause 1.24) 104.6472 112 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 104.6472 and, uh, 105.2818 113 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 105.2818 (pause 1.00) 106.2780 114 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 106.2780 the group would be around 'em. 107.5632 115 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 107.5632 (pause 0.99) 108.5548 116 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 108.5548 And uh, 109.2429 117 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 109.2429 (pause 0.73) 109.9721 118 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 109.9721 uh, he would say 110.8714 119 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 110.8714 (pause 1.45) 112.3237 120 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 112.3237 goal. 112.7845 121 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 112.7845 (pause 0.45) 113.2365 122 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 113.2365 And then 113.7551 123 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 113.7551 (pause 0.72) 114.4782 124 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 114.4782 the guy would still be in the 115.8129 125 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 115.8129 (pause 0.37) 116.1852 126 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 116.1852 center, he would say, pum pum pete away, come and find my hideaway. 119.4069 127 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 119.4069 (pause 0.34) 119.7425 128 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 119.7425 And you would try to seek out 120.9520 129 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 120.9520 (pause 1.20) 122.1508 130 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 122.1508 someone. If you found one, he had to get in the center. 124.5989 131 DTA_int_01 124.7484 Oh, I see. 125.2621 132 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 125.3952 See. 125.6698 133 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 125.6698 (pause 1.19) 126.8600 134 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 126.8600 And marbles, 127.9688 135 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 127.9688 (pause 0.15) 128.1183 136 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 128.1183 I enjoyed marbles. 129.2534 137 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 129.2534 (pause 0.57) 129.8269 138 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 129.8269 And we had another game, uh. 131.3265 139 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 131.3265 (pause 2.73) 134.0596 140 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 134.0596 We had about 134.6362 141 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 134.6362 (pause 0.31) 134.9482 142 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 134.9482 t- 135.0764 143 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 135.0764 (pause 0.15) 135.2281 144 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 135.2281 a da- a triangle I think it was, about 137.2792 145 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 137.2792 (pause 0.95) 138.2281 146 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 138.2281 nine holes. 139.1615 147 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 139.1615 (pause 0.07) 139.2347 148 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 139.2347 We would pitch a little ball 140.6221 149 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 140.6221 (pause 1.25) 141.8734 150 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 141.8734 everyone had a designated uh, 143.6062 151 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 143.6062 (pause 0.26) 143.8696 152 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 143.8696 hole. 144.2876 153 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 144.2876 (pause 1.55) 145.8331 154 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 145.8331 And we'd pitch the little ball 147.1725 155 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 147.1725 (pause 0.19) 147.3594 156 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 147.3594 through these holes 148.2222 157 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 148.2222 (pause 0.48) 148.7012 158 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 148.7012 if it- 149.0581 159 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 149.0581 (pause 0.29) 149.3432 160 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 149.3432 ball fell in your hole, you had to get it and 151.1920 161 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 151.1920 (pause 0.10) 151.2957 162 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 151.2957 pick it up, and 151.7168 163 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 151.7168 (pause 0.16) 151.8815 164 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 151.8815 if you threw it, hit somebody 153.0429 165 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 153.0429 (pause 0.30) 153.3396 166 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 153.3396 then he would be 154.2572 167 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 154.2572 (pause 0.88) 155.1335 168 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 155.1335 it. 155.3441 169 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 155.3441 (pause 0.68) 156.0244 170 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 156.0244 Far as I can think of he would be 158.0025 171 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 158.0025 (pause 0.73) 158.7356 172 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 158.7356 uh, 159.4190 173 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 159.4190 (pause 2.35) 161.7719 174 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 161.7719 Well somehow I forget some of the rules of that one. 163.9803 175 DTA_int_01 164.1586 Did you had a special name for [that] kind of game or? 165.9621 176 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 165.4831 [] 165.5441 177 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 166.1634 No, there was no- 167.2486 178 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 167.2486 (pause 0.15) 167.3981 179 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 167.3981 oof, no name for that one. 168.9445 180 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 168.9445 (pause 1.54) 170.4856 181 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 170.4856 And uh, 171.4533 182 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 171.4533 (pause 1.57) 173.0221 183 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 173.0221 ping pong. I played quite a bit of ping pong. I was pretty good. My brothers and I, both of us. At least my brother, he won the- 178.8685 184 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 178.8685 (pause 1.12) 179.9897 185 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 179.9897 out in Hamtramck, he won a City Champ- 182.1774 186 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 182.1774 (pause 0.58) 182.7560 187 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 182.7560 He- well he was a runner up in the City Championship out in Hamtramck. 186.0012 188 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 186.0012 (pause 0.70) 186.7029 189 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 186.7029 We were both good. 187.5786 190 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 187.5786 (pause 0.75) 188.3260 191 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 188.3260 And uh, I was older than he was and uh. 190.8456 192 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 190.8456 (pause 0.87) 191.7127 193 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 191.7127 I kind of regretted 192.8721 194 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 192.8721 (pause 0.57) 193.4439 195 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 193.4439 he was better than I because, [you know, me] being older. 195.4325 196 DTA_int_01 194.5202 [] 195.0999 197 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 195.7498 And he'd beat me sometimes and I'd come home and- 198.1640 198 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 198.1640 (pause 0.58) 198.7467 199 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 198.7467 now, but this was something that we did 200.2158 200 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 200.2158 (pause 0.37) 200.5850 201 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 200.5850 during the winter months 201.5367 202 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 201.5367 (pause 0.15) 201.6832 203 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 201.6832 after school. We'd go up to the pa- or the recreation center. 204.9074 204 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 204.9074 (pause 1.01) 205.9158 205 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 205.9158 And they had 206.3063 206 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 206.3063 (pause 0.26) 206.5687 207 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 206.5687 checkers and um 207.5929 208 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 207.5929 (pause 0.18) 207.7699 209 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 207.7699 chess, 208.1971 210 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 208.1971 (pause 0.45) 208.6425 211 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 208.6425 and ping pong, that's the /??/ the extent of the 211.1349 212 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 211.1349 (pause 0.27) 211.4036 213 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 211.4036 recreation up there. 212.3859 214 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 212.3859 (pause 0.63) 213.0205 215 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 213.0205 And uh, 213.7218 216 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 213.7218 (pause 0.31) 214.0269 217 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 214.0269 he would 214.3625 218 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 214.3625 (pause 0.97) 215.3298 219 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 215.3298 beat me and /he/ would do so much to me. [I never will forget it.] 218.4149 220 DTA_int_01 217.4203 [] 218.0183 221 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 218.8543 And I'd come home. I would- and my mother would know when- just when he would beat me. 222.3111 222 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 222.3111 (pause 0.34) 222.6528 223 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 222.6528 But he was real good. 223.6251 224 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 223.6251 (pause 0.75) 224.3757 225 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 224.3757 And we both were pretty equally good. 226.3991 226 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 226.3991 (pause 1.18) 227.5825 227 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 227.5825 And ping pong, so. 229.0137 228 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 229.0137 (pause 0.43) 229.4451 229 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 229.4451 /But/. 229.7000 230 DTA_int_01 229.7976 How do you play, uh, what were the rules for handball? 231.8546 231 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 232.6054 Handball? 233.2706 232 DTA_int_01 233.4725 Uh-huh. 233.7960 233 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 233.7960 Well, 234.2844 234 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 235.1753 we uh, 235.7977 235 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 235.7977 (pause 0.16) 235.9564 236 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 235.9564 well, uh, like we had down at the um, 237.5185 237 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 237.5185 (pause 2.28) 239.8017 238 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 239.8017 uh, Hamtramck 240.4808 239 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 240.4808 (pause 0.15) 240.6272 240 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 240.6272 Hamtramck High School uh, court there, they had, um, 243.2773 241 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 243.2773 (pause 0.66) 243.9364 242 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 243.9364 it was right in back of the gymnasium. And, um, 246.2155 243 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 246.2155 (pause 0.89) 247.1064 244 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 247.1064 there was a- 247.6922 245 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 247.6922 (pause 0.87) 248.5648 246 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 248.5648 they had it all arranged for 250.1538 247 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 250.1538 (pause 0.49) 250.6481 248 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 250.6481 tennis, you know, so forth, and so there was a big wall there. 253.3667 249 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 253.3667 (pause 0.39) 253.7573 250 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 253.7573 And it had lines drawn 255.3072 251 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 255.3072 (pause 0.28) 255.5879 252 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 255.5879 from 256.0395 253 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 256.0395 (pause 0.87) 256.9060 254 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 256.9060 one end of the 257.6388 255 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 257.6388 (pause 0.86) 258.4992 256 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 258.4992 uh, to, uh, let you know what 260.1650 257 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 260.1650 (pause 0.44) 260.6021 258 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 260.6021 start and finished of a 261.7493 259 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 261.7493 (pause 0.39) 262.1399 260 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 262.1399 handball court. 263.0125 261 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 263.0125 (pause 0.82) 263.8363 262 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 263.8363 And, um, 264.4770 263 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 264.4770 (pause 0.24) 264.7150 264 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 264.7150 you served 265.3862 265 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 265.3862 (pause 0.97) 266.3585 266 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 266.3585 one man would serve. 267.4508 267 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 267.4508 (pause 0.85) 268.3023 268 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 268.3023 And, um, 269.1017 269 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 269.1017 (pause 2.34) 271.4431 270 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 271.4431 I forget now- I can't think too much. 273.7321 271 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 273.7321 (pause 0.67) 274.4033 272 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 274.4033 You would serve and um, 275.9531 273 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 275.9531 (pause 1.95) 277.8997 274 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 277.8997 the fellow you were playing against 279.4436 275 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 279.4436 (pause 0.89) 280.3378 276 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 280.3378 he was supposed to hit the ball, and you're- you- your uh, uh, objective was to 284.6415 277 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 284.6415 (pause 0.30) 284.9380 278 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 284.9380 make it more difficult for him to 286.7808 279 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 286.7808 (pause 0.52) 287.3056 280 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 287.3056 get the next ball that you hit. 288.6542 281 DTA_int_01 288.8038 Oh. 289.0784 282 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 289.2676 And if it 289.8351 283 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 289.8351 (pause 0.25) 290.0853 284 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 290.0853 if he- if he hit a ball, and it went out of bounds of what he 292.7795 285 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 292.7795 (pause 0.24) 293.0236 286 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 293.0236 that was your point. 293.7742 287 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 293.7742 (pause 0.68) 294.4515 288 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 294.4515 And if 294.8421 289 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 294.8421 (pause 0.20) 295.0434 290 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 295.0434 you hit a ball and he didn't 296.8017 291 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 296.8017 (pause 0.71) 297.5156 292 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 297.5156 return it to the wall, and then he- and it went to the floor, 300.2799 293 DTA_int_01 300.5036 [Uh-huh.] 300.7904 294 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 300.6378 [uh,] to the ground, well that was a point 302.4013 295 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 302.7127 [for you too.] 303.3655 296 DTA_int_01 302.8416 [/inaudible/] 303.1413 297 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 304.1138 See, I think the game wa- it- the- the uh, limit was eleven I think. Eleven points. 308.7258 298 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 308.7258 (pause 0.93) 309.6533 299 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 309.6533 I don't think we ha- was [/inaudible/.] 310.7827 300 DTA_int_01 310.5569 [Do you have] a si- any side walls at all? 312.3449 301 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 312.6927 No, this was no side wall- were- when I was playing, [but they] do have side walls, I know. 316.9417 302 DTA_int_01 315.3208 [Right.] 315.5588 303 DTA_int_01 317.1980 Yeah. 317.3718 304 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 317.3718 Well, now, they can ricochet off the s- you can play off the [sides.] 320.4493 305 DTA_int_01 320.4005 [Yeah.] 320.6141 306 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 321.1388 Yeah, I know, I noticed out the Belle Isle, they have a court out there. 323.8941 307 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 323.8941 (pause 0.41) 324.3090 308 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 324.3090 But, we just had some lines drawn. 326.1641 309 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 326.1641 (pause 0.69) 326.8500 310 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 326.8500 And if it went out of the line, then you lost that point. 329.0040 311 DTA_int_01 329.2481 [Oh yeah?] 329.5044 312 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 329.3884 [If you] went on this line, you lost a point. 331.1171 313 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 331.5809 And if you didn't- 332.3925 314 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 332.3925 (pause 0.46) 332.8555 315 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 332.8555 if I hit the ball and 334.3444 316 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 334.3444 (pause 0.24) 334.5824 317 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 334.5824 uh, his return shot 335.8334 318 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 335.8334 (pause 0.41) 336.2422 319 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 336.2422 didn't hit the wall again, it was /typical/, well, I got a point that way too. 339.4384 320 DTA_int_01 339.4384 Yeah. 339.6458 321 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 340.1035 Yeah. 340.3903 322 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 340.3903 (pause 1.18) 341.5742 323 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 341.5742 That was, uh, 342.4285 324 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 342.4285 (pause 0.63) 343.0631 325 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 343.0631 handball. 343.7160 326 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 343.7160 (pause 0.82) 344.5349 327 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 344.5349 And 344.9031 328 DTA_int_01 344.9031 Kept quite busy then, with [sports.] 346.5629 329 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 346.0605 [Oh yeah.] 346.9223 330 DTA_int_01 347.0749 347.6302 331 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 347.6302 Yeah. 347.9475 332 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 349.1054 So, I broke this finger, I was still active at forty-three years old. 352.2721 333 DTA_int_01 352.2721 352.9372 334 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 353.2911 [Mm-hm.] 353.7061 335 DTA_int_01 353.6390 [Well] that's good. 354.7983 336 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 355.9259 But we were playing /an inter church/. We got a parish, uh, Saint Theresa and, uh, 359.7330 337 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 359.7330 (pause 0.21) 359.9466 338 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 359.9466 Saint Cecilia's and 361.2647 339 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 361.2647 (pause 0.32) 361.5832 340 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 361.5832 quite a few other 362.5656 341 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 362.5656 (pause 0.45) 363.0111 342 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 363.0111 parishes. Um, this is the first year they got into 365.7875 343 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 365.7875 (pause 0.51) 366.2931 344 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 366.2931 a- 366.6715 345 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 366.6715 (pause 0.27) 366.9400 346 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 366.9400 that I knew about that they have a inter parish league. 369.6896 347 DTA_int_01 369.9038 Uh-huh. 370.1427 348 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 370.2085 And uh 370.7881 349 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 370.7881 (pause 0.91) 371.6978 350 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 371.6978 I think next year, our parish will. We've combined forces with Saint Cecilia because they didn't have enough 376.5037 351 DTA_int_01 376.7366 Oh, I [see.] 377.2371 352 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 377.2064 [to] make up a team from one parish, so we combined with them. 380.3527 353 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 381.0478 Mm-hm. 381.4386 354 DTA_int_01 381.9906 I'll have to get a- 382.8144 355 DTA_int_01 382.8144 (pause 0.27) 383.0890 356 DTA_int_01 383.0890 get some more [players /??/.] 384.3120 357 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 383.9155 [Yeah.] So, I'm- I'm l- I'm been out of commission there, about three weeks now. I gotta go back next week for 388.9465 358 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 389.3188 another x-ray of it. It's not too bad, but. 391.6012 359 DTA_int_01 392.1232 What position did you play? 393.0583 360 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 393.2416 Short stop. 393.9312 361 DTA_int_01 394.0898 Oh. 394.2788 362 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 394.3815 Yeah. 394.7328 363 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 394.7328 (pause 0.96) 395.6886 364 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 395.6886 That was a hot ball I caught 397.0127 365 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 397.0127 (pause 1.09) 398.1056 366 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 398.1056 and, uh, 398.8622 367 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 398.8622 (pause 0.36) 399.2222 368 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 399.2222 I shoulda let it go on, but uh, 400.8292 369 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 400.8292 (pause 0.36) 401.1849 370 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 401.1849 I /feel I didn't/ 402.0008 371 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 402.0008 (pause 0.78) 402.7844 372 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 402.7844 And I felt the uh 403.9499 373 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 403.9499 (pause 0.37) 404.3161 374 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 404.3161 little tingle in my hand, it broke the nail. 406.1777 375 DTA_int_01 406.5561 Uh-huh. 406.8490 376 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 407.0870 Broke the nail, and 408.0679 377 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 408.0679 (pause 0.12) 408.1907 378 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 408.1907 cracked it, ended up bleeding, so. 409.8549 379 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 409.8549 (pause 0.52) 410.3797 380 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 410.3797 I just tied it up with a handkerchief and kept on playing. 412.4696 381 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 412.4696 (pause 0.53) 413.0038 382 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 413.0038 But the swelling never went down. It was three weeks 415.5667 383 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 415.5667 (pause 0.40) 415.9694 384 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 415.9694 before I went to the doctor. 417.0585 385 DTA_int_01 417.2523 Is that right? 417.7297 386 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 418.1690 And [he found.] 418.6999 387 DTA_int_01 418.2972 [Well, did they.] 419.1637 388 DTA_int_01 419.9602 They still fixed it okay, huh? 421.1074 389 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 421.5285 Well, he says, it's not too bad of a fracture. It's a hairline fracture right across through here, what doctor said, so I gotta go back next week 429.0928 390 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 429.0928 (pause 0.56) 429.6542 391 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 429.6542 and let him 430.2217 392 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 430.2217 (pause 0.45) 430.6672 393 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 430.6672 check it. 431.0577 394 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 431.0577 (pause 0.82) 431.8815 395 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 431.8815 So, I guess that's why he didn't put it in a cast. 434.0294 396 DTA_int_01 434.3143 Uh. 434.5250 397 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 434.7621 Mm-hm. 435.1572 398 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 435.1572 (pause 0.78) 435.9418 399 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 435.9418 It's something new in splints. 437.2843 400 DTA_int_01 437.8518 Yeah. 438.1480 401 DTA_int_01 438.1480 (pause 0.18) 438.3311 402 DTA_int_01 438.3311 I- I /feel as/ 439.4091 403 DTA_int_01 439.4091 (pause 0.13) 439.5408 404 DTA_int_01 439.5408 g- lots of [breathable ones.] 440.9635 405 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 440.4753 [Yeah.] And uh. 441.6592 406 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 442.0314 It keeps me from bending that 443.2697 407 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 443.2697 (pause 0.21) 443.4771 408 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 443.4771 part where it was broken. I can bend it from the bottom part down, but not 446.7351 409 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 446.7351 (pause 0.54) 447.2782 410 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 447.2782 you know, at the knuckle. 448.3423 411 DTA_int_01 448.4521 Uh-huh. 448.7021 412 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 448.7636 Mm-hm. 449.2465 413 DTA_int_01 449.6359 Yeah, that's nice. 450.2766 414 DTA_int_01 450.2766 (pause 0.43) 450.7038 415 DTA_int_01 450.7038 Oh, it's a 451.2103 416 DTA_int_01 451.2103 (pause 0.40) 451.6130 417 DTA_int_01 451.6130 finger- 452.0096 418 DTA_int_01 452.0096 (pause 0.13) 452.1402 419 DTA_int_01 452.1402 you know, end of the finger that got blocked /down, but/, 454.0040 420 DTA_int_01 454.0040 (pause 0.51) 454.5166 421 DTA_int_01 454.5166 you know, they- 454.8888 422 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 455.2428 [Mm-hm.] 455.6272 423 DTA_int_01 455.5174 [they] r- rigged it up like [that.] 456.9492 424 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 456.7234 [Yeah.] 457.2238 425 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 457.6632 See, I can open it up and 459.1216 426 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 459.1216 (pause 0.41) 459.5304 427 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 459.5304 wash my hands and so forth. 460.8269 428 DTA_int_01 461.3761 Hm. 461.5675 429 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 461.7694 Mm-hm. 462.2260 430 DTA_int_01 462.5747 Uh. 462.9530 431 DTA_int_01 462.9530 (pause 0.92) 463.8745 432 DTA_int_01 463.8745 Uh. What are your favorite TV programs? 465.7598 433 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 466.3700 Mine, uh, s- well. My mostly, uh, things I watch now is, uh, 470.8926 434 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 470.8926 (pause 0.31) 471.1985 435 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 471.1985 if I see a 472.1087 436 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 472.1087 (pause 0.37) 472.4739 437 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 472.4739 adventure program. Something like a- 474.4632 438 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 474.4632 (pause 1.17) 475.6364 439 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 475.6364 uh, 476.2771 440 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 476.2771 (pause 1.81) 478.0895 441 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 478.0895 what's his name? Um. 479.1313 442 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 479.1313 (pause 0.60) 479.7354 443 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 479.7354 Um, 480.4676 444 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 480.4676 (pause 1.38) 481.8454 445 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 481.8454 Gerald Durrell. 482.5893 446 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 482.5893 (pause 0.25) 482.8400 447 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 482.8400 His adventure programs like Wildlife. 484.8001 448 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 484.8001 (pause 0.27) 485.0686 449 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 485.0686 [That's what] I like. 485.8741 450 DTA_int_01 485.0686 [Oh, yeah.] 485.4383 451 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 487.0307 [Uh.] And if I see uh, a movie on that's got wildlife in it, uh 490.8078 452 DTA_int_01 490.7578 Hm. 491.0669 453 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 490.9979 I enjoy that. 491.7973 454 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 492.6742 Like, uh, this s- s- 493.7360 455 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 493.7360 (pause 0.12) 493.8519 456 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 493.8519 sportsman's one that was on. I don't know if it's still on or not. 496.2135 457 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 496.2135 (pause 0.78) 496.9946 458 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 496.9946 But it used to come on Sundays you just have elephant hunts, uh. 499.7608 459 DTA_int_01 499.7608 Oh. 500.1025 460 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 500.1025 Buffalo hunt, or tiger hunt or something like that. 502.3636 461 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 503.4202 That 503.6289 462 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 503.6289 (pause 0.46) 504.0853 463 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 504.0853 brings out the best in me. 505.1593 464 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 505.1593 (pause 0.56) 505.7145 465 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 505.7145 And uh, 506.3461 466 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 506.3461 (pause 0.68) 507.0257 467 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 507.0257 uh, 507.5169 468 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 507.5169 (pause 2.83) 510.3472 469 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 510.3472 any real good, uh, 511.5382 470 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 511.5382 (pause 0.24) 511.7773 471 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 511.7773 uh, mystery I would like, but these- uh 513.8471 472 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 513.8471 (pause 2.06) 515.9022 473 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 515.9022 these comedies, they don't- 516.9075 474 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 516.9075 (pause 0.21) 517.1180 475 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 517.1180 don't faze me at all. 518.3105 476 DTA_int_01 518.4722 Uh-huh. 518.6858 477 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 518.7194 I don't 519.2076 478 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 519.2076 (pause 0.23) 519.4426 479 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 519.4426 get carried away with 'em. 520.4149 480 DTA_int_01 521.2594 Do you hunt yourself? 522.2079 481 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 522.8548 No, I haven't done any hunting. I like to fish. 525.1761 482 DTA_int_01 525.3378 Uh-huh. 525.5850 483 DTA_int_01 525.5850 (pause 0.53) 526.1110 484 DTA_int_01 526.1110 Where do you fish around here? 526.9837 485 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 527.3804 Well, I just bought me some Canadian fishing license this summer, [and uh,] 531.6143 486 DTA_int_01 531.0255 [Oh.] 531.3504 487 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 532.8043 we went over 533.4547 488 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 533.4547 (pause 0.33) 533.7895 489 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 533.7895 first part of my vacation, I had a week off. I 536.1547 490 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 536.1547 (pause 0.62) 536.7780 491 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 536.7780 took 536.9214 492 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 536.9214 (pause 0.17) 537.0953 493 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 537.0953 the two kids and I 538.3091 494 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 538.3091 (pause 0.34) 538.6478 495 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 538.6478 and uh, his- one of his pals 540.1150 496 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 540.1150 (pause 0.57) 540.6891 497 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 540.6891 and we went over, bought my license and we went down to a spot there. 544.2313 498 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 544.2313 (pause 0.64) 544.8675 499 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 544.8675 Not too far from the ridge. 546.1245 500 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 546.1245 (pause 1.05) 547.1729 501 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 547.1729 And, uh, 547.8288 502 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 547.8288 (pause 0.95) 548.7751 503 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 548.7751 my daughter caught the only fish. 550.1795 504 DTA_int_01 550.2710 [Oh. (laughing) ] 551.1320 505 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 550.6973 [Little- She's] seven years old. 552.2755 506 DTA_int_01 552.4686 [] 554.8965 507 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 552.6486 [The only fish we caught that day.] 554.0579 508 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 554.0579 (pause 0.57) 554.6242 509 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 554.6242 [And /they/] brought 'em back, 555.5426 510 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 556.1727 I had a little basin there, I was prepared to catch a boat load of fish. I say, I heard so much about Canada f- 561.3392 511 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 561.3392 (pause 0.16) 561.4978 512 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 561.4978 Canadian fishing, 562.3765 513 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 562.3765 (pause 0.82) 563.1989 514 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 563.1989 that you 563.7786 515 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 563.7786 (pause 0.21) 563.9922 516 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 563.9922 guaranteed to fishing, but we didn't go too far. But anyway, we had a ba- I had the basin there. 567.9465 517 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 567.9465 (pause 0.45) 568.3939 518 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 568.3939 And they put this little- it was about this long, 570.3252 519 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 570.3252 (pause 0.98) 571.3090 520 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 571.3090 fish and it looks like a sun fish, 572.9962 521 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 572.9962 (pause 0.51) 573.5066 522 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 573.5066 and I 573.7903 523 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 573.7903 (pause 0.12) 573.9063 524 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 573.9063 put it in the 574.4555 525 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 574.4555 (pause 0.32) 574.7758 526 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 574.7758 basin there and 575.4877 527 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 575.4877 (pause 0.11) 575.5976 528 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 575.5976 fill it up with water. 576.4458 529 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 576.4458 (pause 0.13) 576.5800 530 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 576.5800 It stayed alive 577.5258 531 DTA_int_01 577.7129 [Huh.] 577.9939 532 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 577.8554 [brought] him back here 578.6548 533 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 578.7738 put him on the back porch. 579.7440 534 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 579.7440 (pause 0.33) 580.0719 535 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 580.0719 And they made a pet out of him. 581.1001 536 DTA_int_01 581.7064 [Oh no. (laughing)] 582.3656 537 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 581.9654 [But.] 582.3656 538 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 582.6036 I didn't realize after a while, I just said, well I didn't f- 584.7977 539 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 584.7977 (pause 0.43) 585.2279 540 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 585.2279 have the feelings to kill him to eat him. 587.1315 541 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 587.1315 (pause 0.07) 587.2047 542 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 587.2047 After they were just 588.1169 543 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 588.1169 (pause 0.22) 588.3324 544 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 588.3324 every morning, they'd go right- 589.4473 545 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 589.4473 (pause 0.25) 589.6987 546 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 589.6987 they wake up out of the bed, 590.7330 547 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 590.7330 (pause 0.35) 591.0809 548 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 591.0809 they would head right for the 591.9939 549 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 591.9939 (pause 0.16) 592.1557 550 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 592.1557 back porch to see what he was doing. He's swimming around /in his space/.] 594.7642 551 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 594.7642 (pause 0.44) 595.2044 552 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 595.2044 But he was out of his own elements. See, I mean the water didn't have the nutrients or whatever you [call] 599.8469 553 DTA_int_01 599.6625 [Uh-huh.] 599.8469 554 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 600.1498 that kept him alive and he 601.3678 555 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 601.3678 (pause 0.76) 602.1276 556 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 602.1276 kind of fight and he died. 603.4006 557 DTA_int_01 603.6355 Huh. 603.8338 558 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 603.9894 Yeah, we were p- 604.5736 559 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 604.5736 (pause 0.09) 604.6591 560 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 604.6591 sad, we were so sad. 605.9924 561 DTA_int_01 606.2471 A funeral bell and everything? 607.8900 562 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 607.9205 Yeah, I told her I- 609.0643 563 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 609.0643 (pause 0.25) 609.3115 564 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 609.3115 I said I buried your little fish. 611.1147 565 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 611.1147 (pause 0.31) 611.4198 566 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 611.4198 She said where'd you bury it? I say, I won't tell you because every time you see that spot, you 615.2504 567 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 615.2504 (pause 0.11) 615.3601 568 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 615.3601 probably wouldn't feel too good. 616.8770 569 DTA_int_01 617.0479 Huh. 617.2706 570 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 618.0351 Told her 618.5935 571 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 618.5935 (pause 0.76) 619.3529 572 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 619.3529 So I, 619.8520 573 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 619.8520 (pause 0.19) 620.0460 574 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 620.0460 you know, fold him up, put him in the garbage, you know. 622.1833 575 DTA_int_01 622.4612 Oh yeah. 622.7980 576 DTA_int_01 622.7980 (pause 1.00) 623.8003 577 DTA_int_01 623.8003 Um. 624.1340 578 DTA_int_01 624.1340 (pause 0.50) 624.6330 579 DTA_int_01 624.6330 Do you have a pet around the house here? 626.1099 580 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 626.2153 No. 626.5709 581 DTA_int_01 626.6564 Uh-huh. 626.9772 582 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 627.6098 [B-] 627.8042 583 DTA_int_01 627.6327 [Do you] remember a pet that you had, maybe when you were a [boy]? 630.0991 584 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 630.0420 [I] had a pet bra- rabbit once 631.8050 585 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 631.9462 when I was real young. 633.4764 586 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 633.4764 (pause 0.74) 634.2157 587 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 634.2157 And uh. 634.9242 588 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 634.9242 (pause 1.06) 635.9845 589 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 635.9845 Never 636.4849 590 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 636.4849 (pause 1.24) 637.7261 591 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 637.7261 forget it because, 638.7940 592 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 638.7940 (pause 0.12) 638.9160 593 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 638.9160 I ha- we were living in- 640.0091 594 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 640.0091 (pause 0.22) 640.2258 595 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 640.2258 out in Hamtramck, 641.2235 596 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 641.2235 (pause 0.48) 641.7060 597 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 641.7060 we were living in this multiple dwelling, we lived on the back 644.2011 598 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 644.2011 (pause 0.52) 644.7203 599 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 644.7203 part of the dwelling. 645.5990 600 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 645.5990 (pause 0.94) 646.5418 601 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 646.5418 And, uh, 647.1917 602 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 647.1917 (pause 1.05) 648.2457 603 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 648.2457 I had a pet rabbit. It was given to me 650.3223 604 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 650.3223 (pause 0.42) 650.7412 605 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 650.7412 by a store man, I think it was. I can't remember. 653.3465 606 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 653.3465 (pause 0.32) 653.6638 607 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 653.6638 But, anyway, 654.2588 608 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 654.2588 (pause 0.42) 654.6768 609 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 654.6768 I had him on the back porch. 656.0406 610 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 656.0406 (pause 0.63) 656.6683 611 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 656.6683 And I was trying to throw a uh, s- 658.2494 612 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 658.2494 (pause 0.58) 658.8321 613 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 658.8321 dust pan or something, a little shovel or something 660.8838 614 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 660.8838 (pause 0.60) 661.4849 615 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 661.4849 up on the back porch. And I threw it up there. 663.7955 616 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 663.7955 (pause 0.48) 664.2776 617 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 664.2776 It hit the little rabbit and killed him. 665.8882 618 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 665.8882 (pause 0.18) 666.0682 619 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 666.0682 [Just] like that. 666.7729 620 DTA_int_01 666.0682 [Oh.] 666.2975 621 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 667.7248 I never /will/ forget it. 668.9068 622 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 668.9068 (pause 0.47) 669.3797 623 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 669.3797 And from then on, I never did have too much for eating rabbits, but a lot of people like 673.0191 624 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 673.0191 (pause 0.83) 673.8443 625 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 673.8443 wild rabbit, right. Today I don't have a 676.2234 626 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 676.2234 (pause 0.97) 677.1936 627 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 677.1936 uh, you know a yearn- a /yin/ for 679.2946 628 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 679.2946 (pause 0.20) 679.4991 629 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 679.4991 rabbit. 679.9874 630 DTA_int_01 680.3107 Huh. 680.4907 631 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 680.7379 Um, because of that. 681.7348 632 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 681.7348 (pause 1.13) 682.8613 633 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 682.8613 Yeah. 683.2305 634 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 683.2305 (pause 0.25) 683.4776 635 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 683.4776 That's the only pet. I had a little /dog/- 685.5076 636 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 685.5076 (pause 0.82) 686.3276 637 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 686.3276 dogs, you know, but uh, never did have a 688.3857 638 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 688.3857 (pause 0.10) 688.4894 639 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 688.4894 great attachment for dogs. I don't know why. 690.4791 640 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 690.4791 (pause 0.58) 691.0589 641 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 691.0589 Even today, I don't- 692.0134 642 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 692.0134 (pause 0.76) 692.7688 643 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 692.7688 my wife had a 693.7568 644 DTA_int_01 695.0237 Mm. 695.2007 645 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 695.5088 Least the neighbor a couple doors down gave us one of their puppies and uh, 699.1093 646 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 699.1093 (pause 0.96) 700.0651 647 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 700.0651 and um, 700.9133 648 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 700.9133 (pause 0.53) 701.4433 649 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 701.4433 kept him down. We're trying to train him and everything, of course I was all out by all four trying to train him. 706.1166 650 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 706.1166 (pause 0.64) 706.7580 651 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 706.7580 But my wife, she lost patience with his little 708.8571 652 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 708.8571 (pause 0.38) 709.2396 653 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 709.2396 things he would do, you know. 710.4570 654 DTA_int_01 710.6065 Yeah. 710.8850 655 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 711.0214 She couldn't get accustomed to it, and so 713.2610 656 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 713.2610 (pause 0.78) 714.0380 657 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 714.0380 we had to give him away. 715.0997 658 DTA_int_01 715.5311 Hm. 715.7051 659 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 716.0346 The kids were uh, they liked it, but she just didn't have the patience. 719.2200 660 DTA_int_01 719.6167 Yeah. 719.8181 661 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 719.8728 Right then. 720.3642 662 DTA_int_01 721.0952 Cleaning up after [/inaudible/] 722.0208 663 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 721.7969 [Yeah.] 722.1975 664 DTA_int_01 722.2853 [] 722.8604 665 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 722.3731 [Yeah.] 722.8986 666 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 723.0207 Yeah, but it's a- it's a- 724.5401 667 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 724.5401 (pause 1.08) 725.6157 668 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 725.6157 you know, it's something you gotta keep after, you know, just like children. 728.5659 669 DTA_int_01 728.8039 Yeah. 728.9426 670 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 728.9426 You gotta train 'em, but she just didn't. 730.8790 671 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 731.6820 She would 732.0115 672 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 732.0115 (pause 0.44) 732.4513 673 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 732.4513 make her so mad. [] 734.2523 674 DTA_int_01 733.7398 [Yeah.] 734.1912 675 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 734.8863 Yeah. 735.2463 676 DTA_int_01 736.4478 Um. Is- 737.1435 677 DTA_int_01 737.1435 (pause 0.18) 737.3265 678 DTA_int_01 737.3265 uh, 737.7354 679 DTA_int_01 737.7354 (pause 0.16) 737.9002 680 DTA_int_01 737.9002 when you were a kid, do you remember any ways that- well. 740.1802 681 DTA_int_01 740.1802 (pause 0.60) 740.7843 682 DTA_int_01 740.7843 after you got older, I suppose you didn't believe it, but. 743.0037 683 DTA_int_01 743.0037 (pause 0.60) 743.6017 684 DTA_int_01 743.6017 Uh. Some ways that you used to be able to get a wish? 745.5544 685 DTA_int_01 745.5544 (pause 1.51) 747.0629 686 DTA_int_01 747.0629 Uh, 747.3699 687 DTA_int_01 747.3699 (pause 0.18) 747.5520 688 DTA_int_01 747.5520 well, some kind of magical ways that. 749.3561 689 DTA_int_01 749.3561 (pause 1.85) 751.2110 690 DTA_int_01 751.2110 Probably your 751.8794 691 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 751.9453 From the [parents-] parents you mean? 753.7530 692 DTA_int_01 752.3585 [/inaudible/] 752.8195 693 DTA_int_01 753.9238 Yeah. Or any things that you used to do like 755.9739 694 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 755.9739 Yeah, well n- 756.8590 695 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 757.2251 [Well I] used to have a lot of faith in God, uh, like I still do. 760.6221 696 DTA_int_01 757.2251 [Mm-hm.] 757.5761 697 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 761.0553 And uh, 761.6228 698 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 761.6228 (pause 0.72) 762.3429 699 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 762.3429 they had a 763.0324 700 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 763.0324 (pause 0.30) 763.3374 701 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 763.3374 stadium down there, they called it Roseink Stadium out in Hamtramck. That's where I was 766.9316 702 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 766.9316 (pause 0.24) 767.1696 703 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 767.1696 rai- I was born in Georgia, but I was raised up in Hamtramck. 770.1696 704 DTA_int_01 770.3344 Hm. 770.6334 705 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 771.3769 So, they had a stadium down there. The Roseink Stadium used to sell pop and hot dog and everything and they had 776.1526 706 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 776.1526 (pause 0.30) 776.4516 707 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 776.4516 different teams 777.3960 708 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 777.3960 (pause 0.65) 778.0429 709 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 778.0429 play. 778.4822 710 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 778.4822 (pause 0.50) 778.9826 711 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 778.9826 That was way back in 780.2883 712 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 780.2883 (pause 0.82) 781.1121 713 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 781.1121 early 781.8261 714 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 781.8261 (pause 1.15) 782.9713 715 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 782.9713 thirties, I guess. 783.7158 716 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 783.7158 (pause 0.70) 784.4197 717 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 784.4197 Uh. 785.0034 718 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 785.0034 (pause 0.81) 785.8149 719 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 785.8149 So, I went there, I was real young, so 787.9418 720 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 787.9418 (pause 0.48) 788.4178 721 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 788.4178 I was always trying to get a job selling pop. 790.3625 722 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 790.3625 (pause 0.77) 791.1308 723 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 791.1308 So, um. 791.9166 724 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 791.9166 (pause 0.49) 792.4040 725 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 792.4040 Speaking about the magic wish, 793.6427 726 DTA_int_01 793.9845 794.2479 727 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 794.2479 uh, 794.8054 728 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 796.0567 the guy said, um 797.3381 729 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 797.3381 (pause 1.51) 798.8517 730 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 798.8517 so, we were about four or five of us wanted a job. 801.2041 731 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 801.2041 (pause 0.50) 801.7044 732 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 801.7044 So, the guy that took care of the s- 803.6754 733 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 803.6754 (pause 0.27) 803.9439 734 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 803.9439 the uh, concessioner, 805.3047 735 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 805.3047 (pause 0.58) 805.8858 736 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 805.8858 he said, well, uh. 806.8378 737 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 806.8378 (pause 0.45) 807.2911 738 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 807.2911 I'm'a flip a coin, 808.3590 739 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 808.3590 (pause 0.59) 808.9485 740 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 808.9485 and see which one of you guys 810.6963 741 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 810.6963 (pause 1.47) 812.1630 742 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 812.1630 uh, 812.7403 743 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 812.7403 (pause 0.10) 812.8432 744 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 812.8432 will be able to sell the pop. 814.1492 745 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 814.1492 (pause 2.32) 816.4714 746 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 816.4714 I wasn't- 817.3074 747 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 817.3074 (pause 0.52) 817.8283 748 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 817.8283 I had God's name in there somewhere. 819.7077 749 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 819.7077 (pause 3.19) 822.8935 750 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 822.8935 I forgot how it was, but anyways, I said, God's name had three letters in it. 826.3746 751 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 826.3746 (pause 1.08) 827.4540 752 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 827.4540 And I cho- I can't remember now, but I knew this 830.0840 753 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 830.0840 (pause 1.19) 831.2711 754 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 831.2711 m- what it was. 832.1865 755 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 832.1865 (pause 3.35) 835.5408 756 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 835.5408 I can't remember that one at all. 837.2409 757 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 837.2409 (pause 0.49) 837.7307 758 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 837.7307 It was something about um, I knew the guy- that's the way I- uh, this one that came true to me. 842.2070 759 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 842.2070 (pause 0.43) 842.6341 760 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 842.6341 I can't think how it went, but 844.0992 761 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 844.0992 (pause 0.21) 844.3066 762 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 844.3066 I just thought about God's name having 847.0744 763 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 847.0744 (pause 0.39) 847.4650 764 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 847.4650 three letters. 848.2338 765 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 848.2338 (pause 1.08) 849.3098 766 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 849.3098 And I used this to get the /?/ and I got the job. 852.2201 767 DTA_int_01 852.4459 Hm. 852.6916 768 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 853.2962 But I can't think of what the question is right now, right off hand. 856.3985 769 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 856.3985 (pause 0.54) 856.9431 770 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 856.9431 Well, 857.3875 771 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 857.3875 (pause 0.18) 857.5639 772 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 857.5639 how it went. 858.2382 773 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 858.2382 (pause 0.15) 858.3909 774 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 858.3909 You know, I don't think it was just for heads or tails, but something else. 861.5018 775 DTA_int_01 863.0456 Two out of three or something like that? 864.4538 776 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 864.6192 Something in that order. 865.7742 777 DTA_int_01 865.9336 Had something to do with three. 867.0028 778 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 867.0626 Yeah. 867.4920 779 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 867.4920 (pause 0.26) 867.7533 780 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 867.7533 This s- ca- this was uh, 869.2555 781 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 869.2555 (pause 0.21) 869.4691 782 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 869.4691 wish that I got. 870.3417 783 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 870.3417 (pause 0.51) 870.8550 784 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 870.8550 I never forget, it'll come to me. 872.5911 785 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 872.5911 (pause 2.76) 875.3493 786 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 875.3493 Can't think of it right off hand. 876.8199 787 DTA_int_01 877.3979 Well, we can go back to that if you remember, [I guess.] 880.0446 788 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 879.4434 [Yeah.] 880.0446 789 DTA_int_01 880.6037 Uh, 880.9241 790 DTA_int_01 880.9241 (pause 1.01) 881.9385 791 DTA_int_01 881.9385 can you tell me, uh can you remember what your school, some of the things that you studied and 886.7470 792 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 887.7860 Mm-hm. 888.2314 793 DTA_int_01 888.3047 some of the cour- classes you had in school? 890.6939 794 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 890.9441 [Mm-hm.] 891.3439 795 DTA_int_01 890.9990 [Let's say,] probably in grade school- elementary school? 893.5388 796 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 896.3391 Uh, let's see. Elementary school, uh, 898.8288 797 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 898.8288 (pause 1.24) 900.0660 798 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 900.0660 let me think back to 901.2691 799 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 901.2691 (pause 0.28) 901.5492 800 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 901.5492 /good/ that uh. 902.4706 801 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 902.4706 (pause 4.72) 907.1953 802 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 907.1953 Mm. I can't think too much in the 909.0734 803 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 909.0734 (pause 0.72) 909.7935 804 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 909.7935 elementary and um. 911.5631 805 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 911.5631 (pause 3.08) 914.6462 806 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 914.6462 Arithmetic was a 915.7263 807 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 915.7263 (pause 0.13) 915.8544 808 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 915.8544 problem with me. 916.7436 809 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 916.7436 (pause 0.98) 917.7261 810 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 917.7261 I know that. 918.5194 811 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 918.5194 (pause 2.02) 920.5424 812 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 920.5424 Uh, 921.0690 813 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 921.0690 (pause 1.52) 922.5844 814 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 922.5844 art classes, I enjoyed 924.3907 815 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 924.3907 (pause 1.36) 925.7490 816 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 925.7490 very well. 926.4446 817 DTA_int_01 926.8774 Hm. 927.1082 818 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 927.7749 Science. 928.5072 819 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 928.5072 (pause 0.57) 929.0726 820 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 929.0726 /unintelligible/ 929.9377 821 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 929.9377 (pause 1.15) 931.0849 822 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 931.0849 Um. 931.7134 823 DTA_int_01 935.8656 Did you study about other- other countries and. 938.3919 824 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 939.0753 Oh yeah, in, uh, 940.2375 825 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 940.2375 (pause 0.38) 940.6158 826 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 940.6158 geography and so forth. Um. 942.3915 827 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 942.3915 (pause 1.94) 944.3322 828 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 944.3322 Mind's a little blank, for going back this far. 946.8027 829 DTA_int_01 946.8576 Yeah. (laughing) 947.4556 830 DTA_int_01 947.4556 (pause 0.52) 947.9797 831 DTA_int_01 947.9797 Been a [little] 948.3038 832 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 948.2428 [Uh.] 948.8530 833 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 949.1680 Yeah, well we had 950.1478 834 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 950.1478 (pause 0.11) 950.2626 835 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 950.2626 [study] geography and 952.1459 836 DTA_int_01 950.3616 [/so long/.] 950.7729 837 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 953.4760 the l- atlas. 954.9161 838 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 954.9161 (pause 1.11) 956.0260 839 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 956.0260 Map showing and so forth. 957.5333 840 DTA_int_01 957.9116 Did you study about early America and 959.6751 841 DTA_int_01 959.6751 (pause 0.18) 959.8556 842 DTA_int_01 959.8556 anything like [this.] 960.7920 843 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 960.5756 [Oh yeah.] 961.1492 844 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 961.4421 Yeah. 961.9594 845 DTA_int_01 962.0998 Mm-hm. 962.4002 846 DTA_int_01 962.4002 (pause 0.24) 962.6382 847 DTA_int_01 962.6382 What class was that in? 963.5352 848 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 964.2977 Well. 964.7370 849 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 964.7370 (pause 1.64) 966.3755 850 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 966.3755 Well, let's see. 967.2052 851 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 967.2052 (pause 5.35) 972.5542 852 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 972.5542 I don't know whether that was in junior high school or in e- you're speaking of a- a- all. 976.2676 853 DTA_int_01 976.1140 [Well] I'm- I'm thinking mo- I'm [thinking more or less,] 978.4101 854 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 977.3389 [More than elementary?] 978.3047 855 DTA_int_01 978.7701 like in the- like you mentioned geography and- and arithmetic and things like this. 982.8576 856 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 983.0285 Mm-hm. 983.5362 857 DTA_int_01 983.5362 Uh. And I'm interested in more terms like this, you know, some specific classes. 987.9325 858 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 988.5568 Mm-hm. 989.1096 859 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 989.1096 (pause 4.73) 993.8404 860 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 993.8404 Well, I remember. Well, I don't really know if this was in junior high or what, but I remember uh, it was in history. I read, um, the Dred- 999.6937 861 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 999.6937 (pause 0.13) 999.8283 862 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 999.8283 Dred Scott Case. Uh. 1001.4593 863 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1001.4593 (pause 0.74) 1002.1985 864 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1002.1985 But, uh. 1002.8358 865 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1002.8358 (pause 1.69) 1004.5296 866 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1004.5296 Well, they had played a bi- Dred Scott played a big part in- um, 1008.1723 867 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1008.1723 (pause 1.24) 1009.4090 868 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1009.4090 in the slavery 1010.6056 869 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1010.6056 (pause 0.40) 1011.0088 870 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1011.0088 uh, abol- abolition. What now, what it was about. 1013.4747 871 DTA_int_01 1013.1663 [Mm-hm.] Yeah. That's right. 1014.0339 872 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1014.7363 Something /there um/, 1015.8736 873 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1015.8736 (pause 0.75) 1016.6215 874 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1016.6215 he was instrumental in um, 1018.0197 875 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1018.0197 (pause 2.51) 1020.5263 876 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1020.5263 e- adding to this 1021.5993 877 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1021.5993 (pause 0.31) 1021.9050 878 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1021.9050 the slaves 1022.6139 879 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1022.6139 (pause 0.27) 1022.8805 880 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1022.8805 freedom. 1023.3813 881 DTA_int_01 1023.5699 Mm-hm. 1023.8625 882 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1023.8625 And so forth. 1024.6646 883 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1026.3815 /And then/. 1026.9018 884 DTA_int_01 1027.7082 From your 1028.1784 885 DTA_int_01 1028.1784 (pause 0.12) 1028.2972 886 DTA_int_01 1028.2972 uh, from you seat in the- in the- in the classroom, 1030.6234 887 DTA_int_01 1030.6234 (pause 0.46) 1031.0786 888 DTA_int_01 1031.0786 what are some of the things you could see 1032.5325 889 DTA_int_01 1032.5325 (pause 0.19) 1032.7226 890 DTA_int_01 1032.7226 in the room 1033.4003 891 DTA_int_01 1033.4003 (pause 0.17) 1033.5694 892 DTA_int_01 1033.5694 that were- that you can remember? 1035.0064 893 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1035.4421 Some- from where I was sitting? 1036.9308 894 DTA_int_01 1036.9967 Yeah. 1037.2645 895 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1040.5561 Windows for one. (laughing) 1042.0873 896 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1042.0873 (pause 0.44) 1042.5231 897 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1042.5231 I always be looking out a window for [the most-] I think it was in a science class because it was 1047.1024 898 DTA_int_01 1044.2856 [] 1044.9178 899 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1047.5771 science class were located right by the handball. We had handball courts in /RD-SCHOOL-4/. This was my elementary school. 1053.7661 900 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1053.7661 (pause 0.74) 1054.5027 901 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1054.5027 And there always be some activity down there, I remember looking out 1057.5528 902 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1057.5528 (pause 0.56) 1058.1121 903 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1058.1121 the windows and we had a flag up in there 1060.6834 904 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1060.6834 (pause 0.64) 1061.3223 905 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1061.3223 in the center of the room, I remember that. 1063.2798 906 DTA_int_01 1063.7933 Uh-huh. 1064.1198 907 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1064.5285 Uh. 1064.8731 908 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1064.8731 (pause 0.57) 1065.4439 909 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1065.4439 And arts- 1066.0648 910 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1066.0648 (pause 0.49) 1066.5536 911 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1066.5536 art class there. 1067.6421 912 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1067.6421 (pause 0.69) 1068.3363 913 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1068.3363 Uh. 1069.0192 914 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1069.0192 (pause 0.92) 1069.9362 915 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1069.9362 We did a lot of engraving. We used to have a 1072.5581 916 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1072.5581 (pause 0.94) 1073.4946 917 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1073.4946 little piece of linoleum 1074.8826 918 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1074.8826 (pause 0.80) 1075.6809 919 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1075.6809 of 1076.2584 920 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1076.2584 (pause 0.49) 1076.7462 921 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1076.7462 squares cut out and we would 1078.0778 922 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1078.0778 (pause 0.57) 1078.6436 923 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1078.6436 engrave 1079.2680 924 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1079.2680 (pause 0.36) 1079.6322 925 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1079.6322 you know, from a picture. 1080.6426 926 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1080.6426 (pause 0.75) 1081.3904 927 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1081.3904 We would engrave, uh, 1082.5220 928 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1082.5220 (pause 0.25) 1082.7757 929 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1082.7757 pictures out of this linoleum with little special tools 1085.4567 930 DTA_int_01 1085.6713 Oh, yeah. 1086.0290 931 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1086.2696 uh, from 1086.9785 932 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1086.9785 (pause 0.27) 1087.2480 933 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1087.2480 one design, you know. 1088.2560 934 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1088.2560 (pause 1.26) 1089.5177 935 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1089.5177 And we had a guy there, his name was /RD-NAME-2/, he was a Polish fella, 1092.6845 936 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1092.6845 (pause 0.78) 1093.4695 937 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1093.4695 and um, 1094.1133 938 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1094.1133 (pause 0.67) 1094.7831 939 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1094.7831 that guy could. 1095.6221 940 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1095.6221 (pause 0.59) 1096.2074 941 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1096.2074 I guess I was around eleven I guess. 1097.8571 942 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1097.8571 (pause 0.54) 1098.3968 943 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1098.3968 He was around the same- 1099.1968 944 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1099.1968 (pause 0.33) 1099.5239 945 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1099.5239 He could really draw. He could take like Maggie and Jiggs in the comic /scripts/, 1103.5684 946 DTA_int_01 1103.6167 Yeah. 1103.8757 947 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1104.1779 he could draw the exact image of any 1107.1044 948 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1107.1044 (pause 0.59) 1107.6962 949 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1107.6962 cartoon in the paper. 1108.8538 950 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1108.8538 (pause 0.83) 1109.6802 951 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1109.6802 But was something wrong with him, he had um, 1111.4427 952 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1111.4427 (pause 1.31) 1112.7553 953 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1112.7553 epileptic 1113.4186 954 DTA_int_01 1113.9909 Oh. 1114.3941 955 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1114.4201 seizures or something. It would- he would 1115.9094 956 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1115.9094 (pause 0.43) 1116.3386 957 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1116.3386 go off into a trance or something like that, I'll never forget it. 1118.9346 958 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1118.9346 (pause 0.82) 1119.7592 959 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1119.7592 But talk about a gift. 1121.1296 960 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1121.1296 (pause 1.11) 1122.2407 961 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1122.2407 He had it. 1122.8195 962 DTA_int_01 1123.0152 Hm. 1123.2883 963 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1123.6005 I never would hap- wonder happened to /RD-NAME-2/. He- 1125.8120 964 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1125.8120 (pause 1.31) 1127.1210 965 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1127.1210 Just the exact, you thought he was a 1129.0238 966 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1129.0238 (pause 0.67) 1129.6889 967 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1129.6889 what his name? Al Capp? Who draws Popeye, /to who'll/ 1132.1542 968 DTA_int_01 1132.1542 Yeah. Yeah. 1132.6973 969 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1133.1305 /The/ exactness. 1134.2365 970 DTA_int_01 1134.5486 Hm. 1134.7811 971 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1134.7811 Mickey Mouse. 1135.6112 972 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1136.1160 did a l- his hand was so sure 1138.2478 973 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1138.2478 (pause 0.63) 1138.8787 974 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1138.8787 you couldn't tell it . 1139.6225 975 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1139.6225 (pause 0.69) 1140.3101 976 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1140.3101 Usually, I thought maybe when you saw him drawing he'd say, well this is the rough draft for the 1143.8763 977 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1143.8763 (pause 0.17) 1144.0489 978 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1144.0489 real thing. 1144.6223 979 DTA_int_01 1144.6662 Huh. 1144.9077 980 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1145.4784 Yeah. 1145.8222 981 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1145.8222 (pause 0.52) 1146.3402 982 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1146.3402 I never will forget that. This was in art class. 1148.6556 983 DTA_int_01 1148.7220 [/inaudible/] 1149.1544 984 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1148.9412 [And] we used to have, um, 1150.2298 985 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1151.0268 uh, demonstrations, in the gymnasium. Every year we would have demonstrations where we'd 1155.2126 986 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1155.2126 (pause 0.37) 1155.5845 987 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1155.5845 have us 1156.0361 988 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1156.0361 (pause 0.16) 1156.1986 989 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1156.1986 well, it'd be rela- it's a relation to 1157.9621 990 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1157.9621 (pause 0.25) 1158.2156 991 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1158.2156 modern day circuses, you might say. 1160.2035 992 DTA_int_01 1160.2527 Uh-huh. 1160.5381 993 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1160.5688 Everybody, every class would have a little something to contribute 1163.5661 994 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1163.5661 (pause 0.43) 1163.9977 995 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1163.9977 to the demonstration. We have music, and we have candy and peanuts 1167.3848 996 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1167.3848 (pause 0.44) 1167.8298 997 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1167.8298 and dancing and [so forth and.] 1169.4849 998 DTA_int_01 1168.9185 [Kind of a fair huh?] 1169.6692 999 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1169.8258 Yeah. This was uh, 1171.0831 1000 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1171.0831 (pause 0.11) 1171.1939 1001 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1171.1939 at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1172.0348 1002 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1172.0348 (pause 0.91) 1172.9483 1003 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1172.9483 Uh. I can't think of too much about the- the 1176.0181 1004 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1176.0181 (pause 2.54) 1178.5621 1005 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1178.5621 school work. I can't think too far about 1180.9768 1006 DTA_int_01 1181.6373 Hm. 1181.8515 1007 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1181.9261 arithmetic and 1183.0834 1008 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1183.0834 (pause 0.92) 1184.0076 1009 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1184.0076 spelling and so forth 1185.3257 1010 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1185.3257 (pause 0.38) 1185.7040 1011 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1185.7040 back in grade school. 1186.9671 1012 DTA_int_01 1187.9966 Um. Well, you see, the tea- what would the teacher write on? 1190.6571 1013 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1193.2202 Well, uh. 1193.9696 1014 DTA_int_01 1194.3174 Uh. She would- might put some work on the. 1196.6620 1015 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1197.1656 On the board. 1197.8735 1016 DTA_int_01 1198.0687 Yeah. 1198.3555 1017 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1199.5699 The [um.] 1200.5645 1018 DTA_int_01 1200.0641 [And, uh,] 1200.4974 1019 DTA_int_01 1200.7595 uh, let's say l- when you uh 1202.4471 1020 DTA_int_01 1202.4471 (pause 0.16) 1202.6085 1021 DTA_int_01 1202.6085 got out of the class 1203.5543 1022 DTA_int_01 1203.5543 (pause 0.38) 1203.9387 1023 DTA_int_01 1203.9387 and before you left the building, you would- 1205.6997 1024 DTA_int_01 1205.6997 (pause 0.22) 1205.9193 1025 DTA_int_01 1205.9193 you would go from the class out into the what? 1207.5730 1026 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1207.9025 The hallway, yeah. 1208.8689 1027 DTA_int_01 1208.8872 Uh-huh. 1209.1008 1028 DTA_int_01 1209.1008 (pause 0.29) 1209.3906 1029 DTA_int_01 1209.3906 Can you remember some of the things that were in the hallway? 1211.2328 1030 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1212.3312 Yeah, we have lockers. We had lockers in the- 1214.5487 1031 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1214.5487 (pause 0.18) 1214.7318 1032 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1214.7318 in the hallway. 1215.4274 1033 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1215.4274 (pause 0.22) 1215.6471 1034 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1215.6471 [Yeah.] 1215.8546 1035 DTA_int_01 1215.6471 [Uh-huh.] 1215.8857 1036 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1216.1048 No we didn't. No we didn't. 1217.4089 1037 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1217.4089 (pause 0.22) 1217.6286 1038 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1217.6286 We had our lockers, were in the back of each home room. 1220.1981 1039 DTA_int_01 1220.4727 Oh? 1220.7107 1040 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1221.0951 Yeah. 1221.4674 1041 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1221.4674 (pause 0.41) 1221.8823 1042 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1221.8823 Uh. Not a locker, but just hangers. 1223.5808 1043 DTA_int_01 1223.7212 [Yeah.] 1223.8920 1044 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1223.8615 [We] would hang out clothes and 1225.1330 1045 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1225.6394 see, we would have these different classes, we would always have to come back to our 1228.9264 1046 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1228.9264 (pause 0.55) 1229.4756 1047 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1229.4756 home room to get our 1230.4437 1048 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1230.4437 (pause 0.90) 1231.3407 1049 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1231.3407 coats and hats. 1232.1584 1050 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1232.1584 (pause 1.16) 1233.3191 1051 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1233.3191 In the hallways, we had clock. We had a 1235.3300 1052 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1235.3300 (pause 0.34) 1235.6656 1053 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1235.6656 clock up in the wall. 1236.9043 1054 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1236.9043 (pause 0.97) 1237.8721 1055 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1237.8721 And the floors were 1239.4745 1056 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1239.4745 (pause 1.56) 1241.0367 1057 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1241.0367 immaculate. 1241.7018 1058 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1241.7018 (pause 0.21) 1241.9154 1059 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1241.9154 Mm-hm. [Real] clean and polished. 1243.3103 1060 DTA_int_01 1242.1873 [Uh-huh.] 1242.5170 1061 DTA_int_01 1243.9211 What about outside on the playground? Did you have any uh, equipment to play on for the 1247.7898 1062 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1247.9607 Yeah, we had a 1248.7295 1063 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1248.7295 (pause 0.31) 1249.0410 1064 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1249.0410 gravel field that we played on. It was all fenced in, we played soccer. 1252.7108 1065 DTA_int_01 1252.9548 Mm. 1253.2111 1066 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1253.2111 I remember that. 1253.7359 1067 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1253.9007 We played soccer. Mm-hm. 1255.0723 1068 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1255.0723 (pause 0.67) 1255.7463 1069 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1255.7463 That's the one of our main sports there. 1257.6867 1070 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1257.6867 (pause 0.18) 1257.8698 1071 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1257.8698 Uh, there in gym class we'd have 1259.3282 1072 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1259.3282 (pause 0.40) 1259.7277 1073 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1259.7277 soccer games. 1260.7102 1074 DTA_int_01 1261.3204 What about kids nowadays? They play on 1262.9826 1075 DTA_int_01 1262.9826 (pause 0.20) 1263.1839 1076 DTA_int_01 1263.1839 a lot of uh 1263.8064 1077 DTA_int_01 1263.8064 (pause 0.31) 1264.1176 1078 DTA_int_01 1264.1176 equipment, 1264.5997 1079 DTA_int_01 1264.5997 (pause 0.13) 1264.7343 1080 DTA_int_01 1264.7343 you know, the things built, 1265.8138 1081 DTA_int_01 1265.8138 (pause 0.57) 1266.3813 1082 DTA_int_01 1266.3813 uh, being- what are some of the things that they play on? 1268.5827 1083 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1269.5408 You mean um, what we played on [there?] 1271.2672 1084 DTA_int_01 1271.2141 [Well] no, now, uh, the kids [now.] The playground equipment that they have now. 1274.1988 1085 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1272.3637 [Y-] 1272.5612 1086 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1275.6017 /Oh I don't know/. 1276.3340 1087 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1276.3340 (pause 4.37) 1280.7085 1088 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1280.7085 I don't see where they have any- uh, now I know they have the. 1283.2273 1089 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1283.2273 (pause 0.37) 1283.5995 1090 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1283.5995 I know some schools have a little 1285.5156 1091 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1285.5156 (pause 0.42) 1285.9319 1092 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1285.9319 for smalls 1287.0486 1093 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1287.0486 (pause 0.23) 1287.2743 1094 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1287.2743 tots, they have a 1288.1225 1095 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1288.1225 (pause 0.68) 1288.8060 1096 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1288.8060 different type of designs of a- a some for 1291.4609 1097 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1291.4609 (pause 0.37) 1291.8271 1098 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1291.8271 well, swings that have these 1293.1380 1099 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1293.1380 (pause 1.19) 1294.3279 1100 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1294.3279 things they climb on, whatever you call 'em, they're [made out] of metal. 1296.8677 1101 DTA_int_01 1296.0378 [Uh-huh.] 1296.3429 1102 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1297.2705 That they can exercise on, I've seen those. 1299.6935 1103 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1299.6935 (pause 0.69) 1300.3831 1104 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1300.3831 And uh, swings 1301.7342 1105 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1301.7342 (pause 0.68) 1302.4151 1106 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1302.4151 and slides. 1303.4336 1107 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1303.4336 (pause 1.12) 1304.5564 1108 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1304.5564 We had slides too over- yeah. At the /RD-SCHOOL-4/. [/Now/ I remember.] We did. 1309.3981 1109 DTA_int_01 1308.2021 [/inaudible/] 1308.7940 1110 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1309.8985 We had slides over there. 1311.0500 1111 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1311.0500 (pause 1.04) 1312.0873 1112 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1312.0873 Mm-hm. 1312.4962 1113 DTA_int_01 1314.0461 What about- what would the kids do after school, uh, was out? 1316.6743 1114 DTA_int_01 1316.6743 (pause 0.56) 1317.2296 1115 DTA_int_01 1317.2296 After the bell was rung and [they.] 1318.7020 1116 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1318.4627 [/?/] the bell rung and everybody would 1320.1116 1117 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1320.4099 go, there would be a 1321.6608 1118 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1321.6608 (pause 0.64) 1322.3016 1119 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1322.3016 fight now [and then.] 1323.6440 1120 DTA_int_01 1323.0505 [] 1323.6440 1121 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1324.3194 Um. We'd make a beeline to the /l-/ nearest candy store there and buy some candy. 1329.6144 1122 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1329.6144 (pause 0.77) 1330.3847 1123 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1330.3847 And we'd have a little 1331.5403 1124 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1331.5403 (pause 0.93) 1332.4697 1125 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1332.4697 certain little groups would w- walk home together, every day. 1335.4034 1126 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1335.4034 (pause 1.14) 1336.5427 1127 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1336.5427 Uh. 1336.9810 1128 DTA_int_01 1338.8605 Did you ever have a teacher that would yell at the kids a lot? 1341.6831 1129 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1342.2144 Yeah. 1342.5730 1130 DTA_int_01 1343.0578 Can you tell me about ['em?] 1343.8851 1131 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1343.6128 [Our] principal, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/. I never will forget her. 1346.4097 1132 DTA_int_01 1346.6422 What did she used to yell about? 1348.0034 1133 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1348.1031 She was like a Rock of Gibraltar. She was um, more- 1351.7592 1134 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1351.7592 (pause 1.27) 1353.0277 1135 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1353.0277 she had more masculine features than the average [woman, but she was] feared by everybody. This was- yeah. 1357.8083 1136 DTA_int_01 1355.1325 [] 1355.9381 1137 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1358.5853 To hear her, Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ walking down the hall, 1360.9943 1138 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1360.9943 (pause 0.33) 1361.3197 1139 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1361.3197 you could hear a pin drop. This true. 1362.8696 1140 DTA_int_01 1362.9891 Hm. 1363.2548 1141 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1363.8459 Yeah. 1364.2178 1142 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1364.2178 (pause 0.32) 1364.5348 1143 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1364.5348 Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ 1365.2919 1144 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1365.2919 (pause 0.52) 1365.8099 1145 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1365.8099 was the 1366.4475 1146 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1366.4475 (pause 0.49) 1366.9371 1147 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1366.9371 principal 1367.5680 1148 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1367.5680 (pause 0.41) 1367.9733 1149 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1367.9733 but Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/ was assistant principal, but she led the whole show. 1371.6074 1150 DTA_int_01 1371.7336 Yeah. 1371.9262 1151 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1372.5173 Yes sir. When she walked into a room, 1374.3694 1152 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1374.3694 (pause 0.64) 1375.0142 1153 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1375.0142 and to, you know, 1375.9639 1154 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1375.9639 (pause 0.44) 1376.4021 1155 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1376.4021 see wha- how the teacher was coming along. 1378.0890 1156 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1378.0890 (pause 0.63) 1378.7199 1157 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1378.7199 You hear a pin drop. 1379.8356 1158 DTA_int_01 1380.0465 Huh. 1380.2717 1159 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1380.2790 And she would take you by the neck or the arm there if you got out of line and 1383.6391 1160 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1383.6391 (pause 0.63) 1384.2700 1161 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1384.2700 it- word just got along that Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ is- is- is- 1387.0670 1162 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1387.0670 (pause 0.47) 1387.5386 1163 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1387.5386 is not to be, uh 1388.6266 1164 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1388.6266 (pause 0.21) 1388.8324 1165 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1388.8324 fooled with. 1389.3837 1166 DTA_int_01 1389.5630 Hm. 1389.7954 1167 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1390.1740 Yeah, but she was the one I can remember that 1392.3833 1168 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1392.3833 (pause 0.46) 1392.8416 1169 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1392.8416 really. 1393.3034 1170 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1393.3034 (pause 0.13) 1393.4301 1171 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1393.4301 Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ 1394.4092 1172 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1394.4092 (pause 0.55) 1394.9604 1173 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1394.9604 another one. 1395.5647 1174 DTA_int_01 1395.8274 Yeah. 1395.9964 1175 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1395.9964 But she was 1396.5935 1176 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1397.2894 gentle 1397.7745 1177 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1397.7745 (pause 0.12) 1397.8928 1178 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1397.8928 and rough. 1398.4152 1179 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1398.4152 (pause 0.46) 1398.8743 1180 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1398.8743 She's kind 1399.7545 1181 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1399.7545 (pause 0.49) 1400.2457 1182 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1400.2457 but she know how to get rough. 1401.3279 1183 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1401.3279 (pause 0.23) 1401.5628 1184 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1401.5628 I seen her hit a guy with his 1402.8283 1185 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1402.8283 (pause 0.37) 1403.1951 1186 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1403.1951 /with her ha-/ 1403.6495 1187 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1403.6495 (pause 0.45) 1404.1042 1188 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1404.1042 fist. 1404.3895 1189 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1404.3895 (pause 0.77) 1405.1557 1190 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1405.1557 It was a big guy though. 1406.0241 1191 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1406.0241 (pause 0.41) 1406.4376 1192 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1406.4376 [In] gym class. She hit him with her fist. 1408.3693 1193 DTA_int_01 1406.4376 [Huh.] 1406.6239 1194 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1409.1423 Mrs. /RD-NAME-1/, she res- she um 1410.7843 1195 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1410.7843 (pause 0.44) 1411.2277 1196 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1411.2277 you probably read about her. 1412.2830 1197 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1412.2830 (pause 1.23) 1413.5101 1198 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1413.5101 She manage all the tennis, uh, 1415.3471 1199 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1415.3471 (pause 0.55) 1415.8959 1200 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1415.8959 out in Hamtramck. 1416.6752 1201 DTA_int_01 1417.0689 Oh. 1417.4465 1202 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1417.5000 You might re- /RD-NAME-3/ is her name. 1419.1807 1203 DTA_int_01 1419.4377 I'm not- 1419.8238 1204 DTA_int_01 1419.8238 (pause 0.15) 1419.9786 1205 DTA_int_01 1419.9786 not familiar with [her.] 1420.7058 1206 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1420.6613 [Yeah] she's gotten one might be going to the Olympic games or something like. Yeah. 1423.8788 1207 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1424.3661 Yeah. 1424.7370 1208 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1424.7370 (pause 0.11) 1424.8425 1209 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1424.8425 /RD-NAME-3/, uh-huh, [she's] 1426.3804 1210 DTA_int_01 1425.9136 [Hm.] 1426.2165 1211 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1427.3136 still out there. 1428.1346 1212 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1428.1346 (pause 0.23) 1428.3655 1213 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1428.3655 But she was our gym teacher. 1429.6734 1214 DTA_int_01 1429.8450 Is that [right?] 1430.3016 1215 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1430.1640 [But um.] Yeah. Well, she would- 1431.6855 1216 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1432.0631 she was ju- she was firm but uh, 1434.4533 1217 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1434.4533 (pause 0.63) 1435.0825 1218 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1435.0825 she was kind and gentle, you know. If you got outta line, you were gonna get it. 1437.7559 1219 DTA_int_01 1437.9974 Hm. 1438.2078 1220 DTA_int_01 1438.2078 (pause 0.47) 1438.6823 1221 DTA_int_01 1438.6823 What about the best teacher that you ever had? 1440.2540 1222 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1441.9478 Best teacher I- 1442.6269 1223 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1442.6269 (pause 0.42) 1443.0440 1224 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1443.0440 over in the elementary school I can remember. 1445.2809 1225 DTA_int_01 1445.4191 Or in high school or any. 1446.5387 1226 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1448.2262 Oh, the best 1448.9634 1227 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1448.9634 (pause 0.28) 1449.2392 1228 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1449.2392 teacher I remember is a Mr.- 1450.8258 1229 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1450.8258 (pause 1.48) 1452.3064 1230 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1452.3064 well, this was in music there when I was in- Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. 1454.8780 1231 DTA_int_01 1455.0865 Hm. 1455.3323 1232 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1456.0523 Yeah. [He was] 1456.8352 1233 DTA_int_01 1456.4519 [What did you like] about him? 1457.4704 1234 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1457.3445 [Well] of course, he was in junior high. Oh he was just, take so much patience with you. 1460.9327 1235 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1461.5803 You know. 1461.9776 1236 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1461.9776 (pause 0.47) 1462.4516 1237 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1462.4516 He encouraged me. I- 1463.4171 1238 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1463.4171 (pause 0.36) 1463.7754 1239 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1463.7754 I'm a- 1464.3132 1240 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1464.3132 (pause 0.52) 1464.8299 1241 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1464.8299 I took up drums, you know. 1466.1857 1242 DTA_int_01 1466.4231 Oh yeah. 1466.7787 1243 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1466.8091 When I was in junior high school, 1468.2755 1244 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1468.2755 (pause 0.76) 1469.0386 1245 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1469.0386 he encouraged me so much. 1470.3705 1246 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1470.3705 (pause 0.63) 1471.0049 1247 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1471.0049 Um, 1471.4044 1248 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1471.4044 (pause 0.71) 1472.1120 1249 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1472.1120 just y- I mean, just had some- 1473.5345 1250 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1473.5345 (pause 0.52) 1474.0512 1251 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1474.0512 something about him that you- uh, you, 1475.9264 1252 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1475.9264 (pause 0.25) 1476.1722 1253 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1476.1722 I don't know he just- 1476.9397 1254 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1476.9397 (pause 0.45) 1477.3941 1255 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1477.3941 you learn everything. Just the way he approached you. 1479.6095 1256 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1479.6095 (pause 0.13) 1479.7368 1257 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1479.7368 You know. 1480.0507 1258 DTA_int_01 1480.2571 Mm-hm. 1480.4415 1259 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1480.4415 He learned me how to- the rudiments of 1482.3134 1260 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1482.4275 drums and everything 1483.4738 1261 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1483.4738 (pause 0.45) 1483.9282 1262 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1483.9282 in junior high school. 1485.1114 1263 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1485.1114 (pause 0.68) 1485.7941 1264 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1485.7941 And when I graduated from junior high and went to uh, high school, 1488.8585 1265 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1488.8585 (pause 1.27) 1490.1273 1266 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1490.1273 he 1490.5443 1267 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1490.5443 (pause 0.49) 1491.0295 1268 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1491.0295 in my last two years of high school, he came over there 1493.7575 1269 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1493.7575 (pause 0.28) 1494.0341 1270 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1494.0341 and [he was] our 1494.9088 1271 DTA_int_01 1494.1425 [Uh-huh.] 1494.4542 1272 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1495.3456 instructor over there. 1496.6561 1273 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1496.6561 (pause 0.67) 1497.3243 1274 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1497.3243 And um, 1497.9762 1275 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1497.9762 (pause 1.00) 1498.9811 1276 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1498.9811 oh he just a kind and considerate person. 1501.3296 1277 DTA_int_01 1501.7115 Mm-hm. 1502.0057 1278 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1502.0057 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, I never will forget him. He just so gentle with everybody, you know. 1505.8823 1279 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1506.6448 If you got- 1507.3198 1280 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1507.3198 (pause 0.79) 1508.1093 1281 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1508.1093 if you did something wrong, if you got, uh, off on the wrong beat, he wouldn't throw a baton at you like I've seen 1513.3581 1282 DTA_int_01 1513.5337 Yeah. 1513.7752 1283 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1513.7884 Miss [/RD-NAME-1/], 1514.2683 1284 DTA_int_01 1514.0108 [/?/] 1514.2049 1285 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1514.6656 one of our instructors, did. 1515.9495 1286 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1515.9495 (pause 0.95) 1516.9014 1287 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1516.9014 He would just, you know, 1517.8184 1288 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1517.8184 (pause 0.64) 1518.4592 1289 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1518.4592 talk to you, you might have to stay after 1520.0431 1290 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1520.0431 (pause 0.68) 1520.7201 1291 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1520.7201 uh, come after school a- and- and brush up on this, [but.] 1523.4570 1292 DTA_int_01 1523.3340 [Mm-hm.] 1523.6150 1293 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1524.9677 That's the only one that I can remember was a- that I can. 1527.3947 1294 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1527.3947 (pause 1.50) 1528.8971 1295 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1528.8971 This back in nineteen 1530.0294 1296 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1530.0294 (pause 1.02) 1531.0501 1297 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1531.0501 thirty-nine, nineteen forty. 1532.4169 1298 DTA_int_01 1532.5925 Who was the- did you ever have a teacher that you just 1534.5991 1299 DTA_int_01 1534.5991 (pause 0.28) 1534.8765 1300 DTA_int_01 1534.8765 really couldn't get along with at all? 1536.5470 1301 DTA_int_01 1536.5470 (pause 0.81) 1537.3570 1302 DTA_int_01 1537.3570 Had a hard time getting along with? 1538.7533 1303 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1541.0534 No, I think I got along with- 1542.2020 1304 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1542.2020 (pause 0.47) 1542.6717 1305 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1542.6717 pretty well. 1543.2227 1306 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1543.2227 (pause 0.43) 1543.6568 1307 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1543.6568 I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not the one these people /unintelligible/, 1546.1617 1308 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1546.1617 (pause 0.41) 1546.5763 1309 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1546.5763 I'm- I'm like this today, I can't, uh, well. 1548.7506 1310 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1548.7506 (pause 0.39) 1549.1370 1311 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1549.1370 I'm- I usually take things as they come. 1550.8118 1312 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1550.8118 (pause 0.32) 1551.1310 1313 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1551.1310 You know, I- 1551.6754 1314 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1551.6754 (pause 0.68) 1552.3559 1315 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1552.3559 she's hard, she's hard. Well, I just 1553.8653 1316 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1553.8653 (pause 0.90) 1554.7653 1317 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1554.7653 stay to myself. I was always that type of individual, you know. 1557.5471 1318 DTA_int_01 1557.6668 Mm-hm. 1557.9076 1319 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1558.3467 But, uh, there's 1559.1462 1320 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1559.1462 (pause 0.14) 1559.2889 1321 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1559.2889 several that I d- you know, just didn't care- 1561.6569 1322 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1561.6569 (pause 0.29) 1561.9497 1323 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1561.9497 particularly care for. 1563.0165 1324 DTA_int_01 1563.2525 Mm-hm. 1563.5082 1325 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1563.8924 But I j- I just got along pretty good generally with 1566.2412 1326 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1566.2412 (pause 0.08) 1566.3202 1327 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1566.3202 most of the 1566.9349 1328 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1566.9349 (pause 0.19) 1567.1280 1329 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1567.1280 teachers. 1567.5399 1330 DTA_int_01 1568.2533 What about- wa- was there any time that the kids in the class pulled a trick on the teacher or- 1571.9527 1331 DTA_int_01 1571.9527 (pause 0.74) 1572.6902 1332 DTA_int_01 1572.6902 You remember? 1573.2412 1333 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1576.5918 No. 1576.8574 1334 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1576.8574 (pause 0.83) 1577.6872 1335 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1577.6872 No, I don't think we had an- had any- I- I don't think remember any time we had any monkeyshines and- 1582.1000 1336 DTA_int_01 1582.3834 Hm. 1582.5656 1337 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1584.1044 [No.] 1584.4271 1338 DTA_int_01 1584.1856 [/inaudible/] With Mrs. /RD-NAME-3/, if I- [/inaudible/] 1586.4326 1339 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1586.0866 [Not- not] in that element. [No.] 1588.0562 1340 DTA_int_01 1587.9612 [] 1588.5852 1341 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1589.1394 Mm-hm. 1589.5741 1342 DTA_int_01 1589.6092 Um. 1590.0011 1343 DTA_int_01 1590.0011 (pause 0.47) 1590.4736 1344 DTA_int_01 1590.4736 Who wa- can you remember who was the smartest kid in the class? 1593.3034 1345 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1595.7474 Yeah. I can't think of his name. 1597.3329 1346 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1597.3329 (pause 0.88) 1598.2117 1347 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1598.2117 He was a r- brainy 1599.6035 1348 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1599.6035 (pause 0.08) 1599.6869 1349 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1599.6869 type 1599.9475 1350 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1599.9475 (pause 0.50) 1600.4471 1351 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1600.4471 fella, he was 1601.1219 1352 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1601.1219 (pause 0.11) 1601.2295 1353 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1601.2295 Polish fella too. 1602.1998 1354 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1602.1998 (pause 0.22) 1602.4215 1355 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1602.4215 This was in high school. 1603.7119 1356 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1603.7119 (pause 0.95) 1604.6652 1357 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1604.6652 He was a- 1605.1832 1358 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1605.1832 (pause 0.84) 1606.0262 1359 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1606.0262 I wouldn't say he was /brainy/ but he was real smart. 1607.9378 1360 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1607.9378 (pause 1.17) 1609.1117 1361 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1609.1117 Uh, I can't think [of his-] 1610.2795 1362 DTA_int_01 1610.0337 [What did he-] what did he do that was so, uh, 1611.7129 1363 DTA_int_01 1611.8858 what did- was he uh. 1612.7024 1364 DTA_int_01 1612.7024 (pause 0.19) 1612.8923 1365 DTA_int_01 1612.8923 Mm. 1613.0152 1366 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1613.1733 Well, he was very studious. 1614.2780 1367 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1614.2780 (pause 0.22) 1614.5019 1368 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1614.5019 He always-, uh, he did his homework, 1616.3521 1369 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1616.3521 (pause 0.66) 1617.0084 1370 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1617.0084 and when he came- when he came back to class, um, 1619.6662 1371 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1619.6662 (pause 0.81) 1620.4784 1372 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1620.4784 he's be prepared. 1621.3858 1373 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1621.3858 (pause 0.23) 1621.6185 1374 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1621.6185 All the time. And any question that the teacher would 1623.7637 1375 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1623.7637 (pause 0.18) 1623.9442 1376 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1623.9442 a- would ask, 1624.8596 1377 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1624.8596 (pause 0.10) 1624.9628 1378 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1624.9628 he would be the first to raise his hand 1626.5990 1379 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1626.5990 (pause 0.34) 1626.9392 1380 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1626.9392 and give an- an accurate answer. 1628.9434 1381 DTA_int_01 1629.2880 Hm. 1629.4639 1382 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1629.7295 Uh. 1630.1708 1383 DTA_int_01 1631.8264 Was he very popular among the other kids [too?] 1634.3300 1384 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1634.2927 [He] wasn't popular. 1635.3038 1385 DTA_int_01 1635.6045 Uh-huh. 1635.8241 1386 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1636.2850 He was just, uh, 1637.1291 1387 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1637.1291 (pause 0.29) 1637.4144 1388 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1637.4144 smart. 1637.9676 1389 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1637.9676 (pause 0.20) 1638.1698 1390 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1638.1698 He wasn't a good looking guy or nothing like that, he 1640.3219 1391 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1640.3219 (pause 0.45) 1640.7675 1392 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1640.7675 in some way, you might say, he act a little silly once in a while among the kids, but 1644.3212 1393 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1644.3212 (pause 0.67) 1644.9863 1394 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1644.9863 they would- 1645.2980 1395 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1645.2980 (pause 0.68) 1645.9788 1396 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1645.9788 they would, uh, 1646.7756 1397 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1646.7756 (pause 0.14) 1646.9133 1398 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1646.9133 rib him once in a while and all that, but it never fazed him. Never bothered him. He 1650.7622 1399 DTA_int_01 1650.9447 Hm. 1651.1598 1400 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1651.2257 kept with his books. 1652.1103 1401 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1652.1103 (pause 0.73) 1652.8424 1402 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1652.8424 Yeah, but he was al- he was always attentive to 1655.3007 1403 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1655.3007 (pause 0.38) 1655.6804 1404 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1655.6804 class, whatever the homework is supposed to be. 1657.5683 1405 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1657.5683 (pause 0.51) 1658.0778 1406 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1658.0778 And 1658.4071 1407 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1658.4071 (pause 0.78) 1659.1842 1408 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1659.1842 well, he was really a- 1660.3558 1409 DTA_int_01 1663.3256 Hm. 1663.4683 1410 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1663.4880 I would just call a bookworm 1664.9074 1411 DTA_int_01 1665.0843 Yeah. 1665.3345 1412 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1665.5298 [Yeah.] 1665.9203 1413 DTA_int_01 1665.5353 [Who was the] uh, some 1666.6910 1414 DTA_int_01 1666.9215 who was the dumbest kid in the class? Or the kid who had the most trouble with, uh, 1669.8276 1415 DTA_int_01 1669.8276 (pause 1.99) 1671.8142 1416 DTA_int_01 1671.8142 ki- getting [along with the /inaudible/] 1673.5313 1417 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1672.5114 [Well one of 'em was this one that's just] 1673.7865 1418 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1674.0057 the kid I told you that Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ socked. 1676.3002 1419 DTA_int_01 1676.5592 Oh. 1676.8578 1420 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1677.6340 He was a big guy, he was bigger for his age. He was the biggest guy in the class. 1681.2472 1421 DTA_int_01 1681.6006 Hm. 1681.7812 1422 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1681.8383 But he would never- 1682.7449 1423 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1682.7449 (pause 0.94) 1683.6819 1424 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1683.6819 his name was Eddie, I forget his last name was. 1685.7259 1425 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1685.7259 (pause 0.67) 1686.3976 1426 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1686.3976 But he would never, uh, 1687.5561 1427 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1687.5561 (pause 0.70) 1688.2607 1428 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1688.2607 He'd never do anything right, he would never have his homework, or nothing like that. And he- 1691.5829 1429 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1691.5829 (pause 0.62) 1692.2076 1430 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1692.2076 He was a tough guy, you know, he was real tough and he didn't- 1695.1802 1431 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1695.1802 (pause 0.73) 1695.9143 1432 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1695.9143 he just went to school because maybe his parents- 1697.8875 1433 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1697.8875 (pause 0.10) 1697.9884 1434 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1697.9884 parents 1698.3232 1435 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1698.3232 (pause 0.13) 1698.4527 1436 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1698.4527 said you got to get out of the house and go. Well, that's one of those things. 1701.0136 1437 DTA_int_01 1701.3962 Hm. 1701.5838 1438 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1702.0645 Mm-hm. 1702.5036 1439 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1702.5036 (pause 0.95) 1703.4562 1440 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1703.4562 [Uh.] 1704.1126 1441 DTA_int_01 1703.7089 [And, uh,] 1704.1447 1442 DTA_int_01 1704.2729 was the teacher- how'd the teacher react to him? M- or the teachers in general, were they- 1708.2598 1443 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1708.9109 Well, um, 1709.8482 1444 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1709.8482 (pause 0.62) 1710.4651 1445 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1710.4651 they would more or less- to me, they would more or less, uh 1712.5990 1446 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1712.5990 (pause 0.84) 1713.4389 1447 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1713.4389 take him for granted, cause he was- he stood out. You know, it's like, you're big and /then/ 1716.3305 1448 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1716.3305 (pause 0.51) 1716.8381 1449 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1716.8381 out of all the little kids and, uh, 1718.5788 1450 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1718.5788 (pause 0.90) 1719.4835 1451 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1719.4835 he would- they would ask sh- I remember the teacher would ask him something and he would uh, 1722.8665 1452 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1722.8665 (pause 1.14) 1724.0071 1453 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1724.0071 uh, you know, the- the heck with you attitude. [And uh.] /It's them-/ something like that. 1728.0413 1454 DTA_int_01 1726.4302 [Yeah.] 1726.7536 1455 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1728.5293 And they'd just- teacher would come to a point where they would 1730.9265 1456 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1730.9265 (pause 0.59) 1731.5195 1457 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1731.5195 just ignore him, [see.] 1732.8807 1458 DTA_int_01 1732.5626 [Hm.] 1732.8311 1459 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1733.7766 And they'd fail him in different- 1735.8395 1460 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1735.8395 (pause 0.21) 1736.0458 1461 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1736.0458 every time the semester end. 1737.5956 1462 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1737.5956 (pause 0.50) 1738.0942 1463 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1738.0942 Sometimes he would pass, I guess it was 1739.8456 1464 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1739.8456 (pause 0.50) 1740.3439 1465 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1740.3439 pass him just to get rid of him [sometime.] 1742.3124 1466 DTA_int_01 1741.9416 [Uh-huh.] 1742.4115 1467 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1742.6181 Or something like that. But he was- 1744.1393 1468 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1744.1393 (pause 1.20) 1745.3431 1469 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1745.3431 he was a good athlete though, he could play baseball 1747.5223 1470 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1747.5223 (pause 0.51) 1748.0370 1471 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1748.0370 real good. 1748.5112 1472 DTA_int_01 1748.8951 [Hm.] 1749.0842 1473 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1748.9063 [Soccer.] 1749.4773 1474 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1750.2544 Yeah. 1750.5464 1475 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1750.5464 (pause 0.24) 1750.7856 1476 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1750.7856 Baseball, yeah, he was real good. 1752.4067 1477 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1752.4067 (pause 0.97) 1753.3726 1478 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1753.3726 But uh, 1753.9667 1479 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1753.9667 (pause 0.15) 1754.1203 1480 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1754.1203 s- t- 1754.5089 1481 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1754.5089 (pause 0.22) 1754.7306 1482 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1754.7306 books 1755.1776 1483 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1755.1776 (pause 0.18) 1755.3537 1484 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1755.3537 wasn't for him. 1756.0710 1485 DTA_int_01 1756.3218 Huh. 1756.4886 1486 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1756.9150 Mm-hm. 1757.3411 1487 DTA_int_01 1757.9360 Um. 1758.3158 1488 DTA_int_01 1758.3158 (pause 1.08) 1759.3966 1489 DTA_int_01 1759.3966 What, uh, about what time do- 1761.2685 1490 DTA_int_01 1761.2685 (pause 0.21) 1761.4814 1491 DTA_int_01 1761.4814 did uh, 1762.0983 1492 DTA_int_01 1762.0983 (pause 0.25) 1762.3469 1493 DTA_int_01 1762.3469 do the kids get out of school now? 1763.7693 1494 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1764.7934 Uh, my kids they- um, the um, 1767.3142 1495 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1767.3142 (pause 1.42) 1768.7364 1496 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1768.7364 ones in the 1769.6825 1497 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1769.6825 (pause 0.46) 1770.1413 1498 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1770.1413 they're all in /RD-SCHOOL-3/, they get out around three. 1772.2848 1499 DTA_int_01 1772.6756 Uh-huh. 1772.9060 1500 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1773.2990 Uh. 1774.1134 1501 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1774.1134 (pause 0.30) 1774.4132 1502 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1774.4132 Of course and my son just graduated. 1776.2435 1503 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1776.2435 (pause 0.71) 1776.9503 1504 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1776.9503 They get out, 1777.5693 1505 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1777.5693 (pause 0.16) 1777.7318 1506 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1777.7318 well, 1778.2520 1507 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1778.2520 (pause 0.59) 1778.8469 1508 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1778.8469 sometimes a little, about a half hour early, about two thirty something like that. 1782.1986 1509 DTA_int_01 1782.4543 I see. 1782.9302 1510 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1783.0157 Uh-huh. 1783.4733 1511 DTA_int_01 1783.6628 Uh, we're interested in finding out specific terms you would use for 1786.3321 1512 DTA_int_01 1786.3321 (pause 0.37) 1786.7041 1513 DTA_int_01 1786.7041 um 1786.8973 1514 DTA_int_01 1786.8973 (pause 0.19) 1787.0839 1515 DTA_int_01 1787.0839 between 1787.5032 1516 DTA_int_01 1787.5032 (pause 0.27) 1787.7732 1517 DTA_int_01 1787.7732 it would be fifteen minutes after three thirty. 1789.8821 1518 DTA_int_01 1789.8821 (pause 0.21) 1790.0885 1519 DTA_int_01 1790.0885 What would you use for this? 1791.1575 1520 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1792.1195 Oh you mean wha- when they get out? 1793.4668 1521 DTA_int_01 1793.8685 Uh, for- fifteen minutes after three thirty, what time would it be? 1796.5137 1522 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1798.2958 Fifteen minutes after three thirty? 1799.5947 1523 DTA_int_01 1799.5947 Yeah. 1799.8265 1524 DTA_int_01 1799.8265 (pause 0.46) 1800.2865 1525 DTA_int_01 1800.2865 Quarter. 1800.7453 1526 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1801.0263 Quarter to four? 1801.7787 1527 DTA_int_01 1801.9850 Yeah. 1802.1628 1528 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1802.3494 Mm-hm. 1802.6721 1529 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1802.6721 (pause 0.98) 1803.6476 1530 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1803.6476 Huh. 1803.8605 1531 DTA_int_01 1803.9069 /unintelligible/ 1804.2364 1532 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1804.2496 /unintelligible/ Uh-huh. 1805.1447 1533 DTA_int_01 1805.9267 Um. 1806.2999 1534 DTA_int_01 1806.2999 (pause 0.52) 1806.8228 1535 DTA_int_01 1806.8228 Is there a 1807.4002 1536 DTA_int_01 1807.4002 (pause 0.34) 1807.7424 1537 DTA_int_01 1807.7424 well, in high school, 1808.7329 1538 DTA_int_01 1808.7329 (pause 0.26) 1808.9941 1539 DTA_int_01 1808.9941 were there a bunch of guys that you used to hang around with and 1811.3767 1540 DTA_int_01 1811.3767 (pause 0.54) 1811.9189 1541 DTA_int_01 1811.9189 do things together and have common interests and so forth and? 1814.4391 1542 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1815.6553 Mm-hm. 1816.0685 1543 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1816.0685 (pause 0.09) 1816.1585 1544 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1816.1585 [Yeah.] 1816.4617 1545 DTA_int_01 1816.1967 [Can you tell] me about these? Uh. 1817.1968 1546 DTA_int_01 1818.0301 [Kind.] 1818.2812 1547 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1818.0913 [Well] um. One was 1819.4386 1548 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1819.8249 fella named 1820.3611 1549 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1820.3611 (pause 1.66) 1822.0258 1550 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1822.0258 um, 1822.3331 1551 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1822.3331 (pause 0.41) 1822.7414 1552 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1822.7414 /RD-NAME-3/, he was a 1824.0832 1553 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1824.0832 (pause 1.01) 1825.0945 1554 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1825.0945 very good baritonist, 1826.2526 1555 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1826.2526 (pause 0.09) 1826.3437 1556 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1826.3437 he played baritone very good, he and I used to pal around. 1829.3905 1557 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1829.3905 (pause 0.77) 1830.1563 1558 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1830.1563 And uh 1830.8961 1559 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1830.8961 (pause 0.60) 1831.4913 1560 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1831.4913 fellow named /RD-NAME-4/. He 1833.4296 1561 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1833.4296 (pause 0.48) 1833.9054 1562 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1833.9054 played drums along with me 1835.4200 1563 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1835.4200 (pause 0.44) 1835.8612 1564 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1835.8612 we'd become 1836.4904 1565 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1836.4904 (pause 0.23) 1836.7160 1566 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1836.7160 attached. 1837.3268 1567 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1837.3268 (pause 1.55) 1838.8765 1568 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1838.8765 Uh. 1839.5993 1569 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1839.5993 (pause 1.24) 1840.8373 1570 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1840.8373 In fact, well I mean, I didn't- I didn't- uh, 1842.8794 1571 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1842.8794 (pause 0.66) 1843.5373 1572 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1843.5373 I didn't, um, 1844.2069 1573 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1844.2069 (pause 1.19) 1845.3953 1574 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1845.3953 go out very much until 1846.6816 1575 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1846.6816 (pause 0.56) 1847.2370 1576 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1847.2370 after I graduated. I didn't do too much going around. 1849.5548 1577 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1849.5548 (pause 0.44) 1849.9960 1578 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1849.9960 But we would- the- these, another fella named /RD-NAME-3/- 1852.8115 1579 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1852.8115 (pause 0.73) 1853.5450 1580 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1853.5450 /RD-NAME-4/, I- we would 1854.8415 1581 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1854.8415 (pause 0.44) 1855.2827 1582 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1855.2827 go around together, we would go to 1856.7746 1583 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1856.7746 (pause 0.54) 1857.3102 1584 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1857.3102 circus, once in a while 1858.7165 1585 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1858.7165 (pause 0.58) 1859.2949 1586 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1859.2949 the three of us. 1860.0769 1587 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1860.0769 (pause 0.59) 1860.6690 1588 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1860.6690 And had a lot of fun 1861.6986 1589 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1861.6986 (pause 0.69) 1862.3911 1590 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1862.3911 together. 1862.9092 1591 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1862.9092 (pause 1.08) 1863.9897 1592 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1863.9897 Uh. 1864.6175 1593 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1864.6175 (pause 1.24) 1865.8570 1594 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1865.8570 I wasn't even interested in dancing. When I was eighteen, I wasn't 1868.7716 1595 DTA_int_01 1869.1821 Hm. 1869.3577 1596 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1869.5838 interested in that. I didn't start getting interested in girls until um, 1872.5041 1597 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1872.5041 (pause 0.63) 1873.1363 1598 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1873.1363 after I come out of the service. 1874.3900 1599 DTA_int_01 1874.6175 Hm. 1874.7813 1600 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1876.1316 Uh. 1876.7682 1601 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1876.7682 (pause 2.30) 1879.0684 1602 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1879.0684 But uh, you mean during school? 1880.6088 1603 DTA_int_01 1880.8933 Yeah. 1881.1679 1604 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1881.1984 During [school.] During high school. 1882.9357 1605 DTA_int_01 1881.6832 [That's fine.] 1882.1836 1606 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1883.3972 [/Well, we would- we/ 1883.9021 1607 DTA_int_01 1883.3972 [/inaudible/] 1883.7518 1608 DTA_int_01 1884.0799 You did some things together and maybe had some interests, you know, common 1887.0785 1609 DTA_int_01 1887.0785 (pause 0.12) 1887.1973 1610 DTA_int_01 1887.1973 interests. 1887.6037 1611 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1890.4751 Well, this- about the extent of it, we. 1892.4244 1612 DTA_int_01 1892.9688 Were- were these guys mostly your age, or? 1894.7749 1613 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1894.9439 Yeah. Well, they were- 1895.8469 1614 DTA_int_01 1895.8964 Hm. 1896.1312 1615 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1896.1587 Well yeah, 1896.7577 1616 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1896.7577 (pause 0.15) 1896.9122 1617 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1896.9122 Both of them were. Maybe I was a year older than /RD-NAME-2/. 1899.7247 1618 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1899.7247 (pause 0.99) 1900.7169 1619 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1900.7169 Uh-huh. 1901.1383 1620 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1901.1383 (pause 0.53) 1901.6728 1621 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1901.6728 And /RD-NAME-3/, he and I were the same age. 1903.6767 1622 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1903.6767 (pause 1.04) 1904.7178 1623 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1904.7178 Uh, we- 1905.3105 1624 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1905.3105 (pause 1.64) 1906.9456 1625 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1906.9456 we would- every time we had football, was in the band, you know, we- 1909.5855 1626 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1909.5855 (pause 0.54) 1910.1222 1627 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1910.1222 we had uniforms and every thing. We'd 1911.6522 1628 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1911.6522 (pause 0.25) 1911.9025 1629 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1911.9025 every week there was football game, so the band had 1914.1409 1630 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1914.1409 (pause 0.11) 1914.2529 1631 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1914.2529 to 1914.5354 1632 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1914.5354 (pause 0.53) 1915.0673 1633 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1915.0673 you know how the band plays [before the-] 1916.5762 1634 DTA_int_01 1916.3050 [Yeah.] 1916.5762 1635 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1917.3137 and so forth. 1918.0733 1636 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1918.0733 (pause 0.57) 1918.6445 1637 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1918.6445 And we went all over city. 1920.0363 1638 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1920.0363 (pause 1.17) 1921.2109 1639 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1921.2109 Playing, 1921.6637 1640 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1921.6637 (pause 0.34) 1922.0083 1641 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1922.0083 following our team, you know, and so forth. 1923.7878 1642 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1923.7878 (pause 0.85) 1924.6332 1643 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1924.6332 And, um, 1925.2654 1644 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1925.2654 (pause 0.51) 1925.7749 1645 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1925.7749 after a football game, we, mm, 1927.5925 1646 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1927.5925 (pause 0.30) 1927.8883 1647 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1927.8883 probably go to 1928.9134 1648 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1928.9134 (pause 0.28) 1929.1981 1649 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1929.1981 White Tower, get a hamburger, something like that. 1931.3174 1650 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1931.3174 (pause 1.25) 1932.5672 1651 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1932.5672 Uh. 1933.0210 1652 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1933.0210 (pause 1.27) 1934.2909 1653 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1934.2909 We played baseball together, the three of us too, during the summer months too. 1937.8114 1654 DTA_int_01 1940.6933 Um. What about 1941.5327 1655 DTA_int_01 1941.5327 (pause 0.18) 1941.7149 1656 DTA_int_01 1941.7149 uh, 1942.0294 1657 DTA_int_01 1942.0294 (pause 0.10) 1942.1281 1658 DTA_int_01 1942.1281 now? 1942.6374 1659 DTA_int_01 1942.6374 (pause 0.18) 1942.8196 1660 DTA_int_01 1942.8196 Do you still see a lot of the same guys 1944.9665 1661 DTA_int_01 1944.9665 (pause 0.13) 1945.1004 1662 DTA_int_01 1945.1004 around or? 1945.9359 1663 DTA_int_01 1945.9359 (pause 0.20) 1946.1312 1664 DTA_int_01 1946.1312 Are you pretty much spread out? 1947.6692 1665 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1948.1552 Oh, well one fellow I see. /RD-NAME-5/. I forgot to mention him. 1951.8625 1666 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1951.8625 (pause 0.53) 1952.3937 1667 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1952.3937 He and I graduated s- 1953.6027 1668 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1953.6027 (pause 0.30) 1953.9034 1669 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1953.9034 together. 1954.4555 1670 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1954.4555 (pause 0.73) 1955.1832 1671 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1955.1832 In the same class. 1956.1403 1672 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1956.1403 (pause 0.78) 1956.9217 1673 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1956.9217 And, uh, 1957.7669 1674 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1957.7669 (pause 1.33) 1959.0974 1675 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1959.0974 I see him 1959.8086 1676 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1959.8086 (pause 0.37) 1960.1796 1677 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1960.1796 quite a bit and he's married now and 1961.7236 1678 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1961.7236 (pause 0.35) 1962.0784 1679 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1962.0784 he comes over once in a while. 1963.4306 1680 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1963.4306 (pause 0.67) 1964.0960 1681 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1964.0960 He and I were r- very close together. 1966.1106 1682 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1966.1106 (pause 0.21) 1966.3214 1683 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1966.3214 In fact, we're very close today. He was only 1968.5782 1684 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1968.5782 (pause 0.26) 1968.8345 1685 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1968.8345 one I would say is, uh, 1969.8621 1686 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1969.8621 (pause 0.36) 1970.2222 1687 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1970.2222 from there, my high school days, that we're 1972.1587 1688 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1972.1587 (pause 0.70) 1972.8617 1689 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1972.8617 uh, still in contact with one another. 1974.6755 1690 DTA_int_01 1975.0002 [Hm.] 1975.2514 1691 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1975.0055 [He and] I we 1975.6992 1692 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1976.5819 have little parties- uh, not parties but a little 1978.9658 1693 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1978.9658 (pause 0.13) 1979.0954 1694 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1979.0954 get togethers 1979.8996 1695 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1979.8996 (pause 0.18) 1980.0752 1696 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1980.0752 he and his wife and 1981.4143 1697 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1981.4143 (pause 0.58) 1981.9951 1698 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1981.9951 my family 1982.8205 1699 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1982.8205 (pause 1.01) 1983.8295 1700 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1983.8295 And, uh, 1984.5582 1701 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1984.5582 (pause 1.07) 1985.6264 1702 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1985.6264 he was about a year older than I, but he 1987.3082 1703 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1987.3082 (pause 0.21) 1987.5197 1704 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1987.5197 graduated the same time that I did and we had a lot of 1989.9125 1705 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1989.9125 (pause 0.73) 1990.6404 1706 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1990.6404 fun together, we- 1991.6768 1707 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1991.6768 (pause 0.12) 1991.7997 1708 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1991.7997 when I did start to 1993.0795 1709 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1993.0795 (pause 0.85) 1993.9318 1710 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1993.9318 go out, he and I went together 1995.6689 1711 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1995.6689 (pause 0.34) 1996.0114 1712 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1996.0114 when you see him, you would see me. 1997.4923 1713 DTA_int_01 1997.6262 Hm. 1997.8281 1714 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1998.2296 And uh, I thought it'd- 1999.6279 1715 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1999.6279 (pause 0.21) 1999.8367 1716 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 1999.8367 I thought the world of him, you know, and I still do. 2001.8452 1717 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2001.8452 (pause 0.60) 2002.4500 1718 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2002.4500 And his character, he's very popular. 2004.3548 1719 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2004.3548 (pause 0.87) 2005.2277 1720 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2005.2277 Got a nice personality, but he was- 2006.9448 1721 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2006.9448 (pause 0.46) 2007.4054 1722 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2007.4054 he was never pretty dumb 2008.6455 1723 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2008.6455 (pause 0.25) 2008.8979 1724 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2008.8979 in school. 2009.5038 1725 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2009.5038 (pause 0.73) 2010.2304 1726 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2010.2304 But uh 2010.7199 1727 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2010.7199 (pause 0.23) 2010.9507 1728 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2010.9507 popularity, he could dance 2012.3314 1729 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2012.3314 (pause 0.57) 2012.8997 1730 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2012.8997 better than anybody in the school. 2014.3089 1731 DTA_int_01 2014.4626 Hm. 2014.6580 1732 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2015.0202 I mean the white girls and the- 2016.4786 1733 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2016.4786 (pause 0.45) 2016.9286 1734 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2016.9286 I mean, the white and colored they- 2018.1288 1735 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2018.1288 (pause 0.38) 2018.5115 1736 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2018.5115 he was just popular 2019.3611 1737 DTA_int_01 2019.6574 Hm. 2019.8176 1738 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2019.8176 with everybody, just type of popularity he had. 2021.9895 1739 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2022.8360 Yeah. 2023.0533 1740 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2023.0533 (pause 0.54) 2023.5947 1741 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2023.5947 And uh. 2024.2914 1742 DTA_int_01 2026.8997 What about with the guys that you used to do things with in high school? 2029.9046 1743 DTA_int_01 2029.9046 (pause 0.35) 2030.2514 1744 DTA_int_01 2030.2514 Were- did some of them speak other languages like 2032.0352 1745 DTA_int_01 2032.0352 (pause 0.15) 2032.1845 1746 DTA_int_01 2032.1845 Polish or Hungarian or German? 2034.3445 1747 DTA_int_01 2034.3445 (pause 0.12) 2034.4674 1748 DTA_int_01 2034.4674 /inaudible/ 2035.0890 1749 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2035.0055 You mean in school? 2035.8682 1750 DTA_int_01 2036.3207 Well, I mean that- that- that they could- 2037.7489 1751 DTA_int_01 2037.7489 (pause 0.25) 2038.0035 1752 DTA_int_01 2038.0035 they could speak other languages. 2039.2106 1753 DTA_int_01 2039.2106 (pause 0.60) 2039.8121 1754 DTA_int_01 2039.8121 Th- 2039.9650 1755 DTA_int_01 2039.9650 (pause 0.88) 2040.8418 1756 DTA_int_01 2040.8418 N-not necessarily in school, but 2042.2698 1757 DTA_int_01 2042.2698 (pause 0.39) 2042.6627 1758 DTA_int_01 2042.6627 uh 2042.9810 1759 DTA_int_01 2042.9810 (pause 0.45) 2043.4263 1760 DTA_int_01 2043.4263 you know, 2043.8346 1761 DTA_int_01 2043.8346 (pause 0.76) 2044.5964 1762 DTA_int_01 2044.5964 Did they come from like Polish families or Hungarian families where they spoke these languages? 2049.1011 1763 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2050.5186 You mean just uh, socializing? Or just being in the cla- you know what I mean the- being in the class? 2054.8708 1764 DTA_int_01 2054.8708 Well that too. 2055.5260 1765 DTA_int_01 2055.5260 (pause 0.20) 2055.7279 1766 DTA_int_01 2055.7279 I mean, but [/inaudible/.] 2057.0267 1767 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2056.5579 [Well the-] generally, uh 2058.1780 1768 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2058.2663 like I know a lot of Polish myself. 2059.9848 1769 DTA_int_01 2060.1418 [Mm.] 2060.5140 1770 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2060.1692 [And I] 2060.8256 1771 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2060.9968 picked it up from just being in a Polish town. That is- it is a Polish town out there in [Hamtramck.] 2065.2065 1772 DTA_int_01 2064.8430 [Mm-hm.] 2065.2761 1773 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2066.0226 Yeah, they'd speak it f- 2067.1017 1774 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2067.1017 (pause 0.21) 2067.3081 1775 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2067.3081 frequently you know, and we would 2068.7346 1776 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2068.7346 (pause 0.10) 2068.8378 1777 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2068.8378 talk or- 2069.2478 1778 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2069.2478 (pause 0.10) 2069.3487 1779 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2069.3487 like he would talk to me and 2070.7207 1780 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2070.7207 (pause 0.31) 2071.0324 1781 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2071.0324 you know, 2071.4207 1782 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2071.4207 (pause 0.35) 2071.7744 1783 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2071.7744 Like he said /dzien dobry panu/ (Polish language) 2073.4232 1784 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2073.4232 (pause 0.43) 2073.8578 1785 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2073.8578 [I said-] uh, 2074.8489 1786 DTA_int_01 2073.8578 [Mm-hm.] 2074.1649 1787 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2075.8455 He said /dzien dobry/ (Polish language). I said, 2077.3459 1788 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2077.3459 (pause 0.71) 2078.0563 1789 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2078.0563 /dobry/, (Polish language) 2078.5524 1790 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2078.5524 (pause 0.29) 2078.8444 1791 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2078.8444 /dobry/, (Polish language) 2079.3997 1792 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2079.3997 (pause 0.94) 2080.3381 1793 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2080.3381 And he said /jak sie masz/ (Polish language), and I said /dobry/. (Polish language) 2082.2444 1794 DTA_int_01 2082.7429 Uh-huh. 2083.0753 1795 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2083.0753 I say, /czesc ? panie/ (Polish language) 2084.3410 1796 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2084.5078 You know, how are you. 2085.4899 1797 DTA_int_01 2085.7643 Uh-huh. 2085.9969 1798 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2086.2296 And I said /dobry/. (Polish language) 2087.0418 1799 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2087.0418 (pause 0.16) 2087.1988 1800 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2087.1988 You know. 2087.4734 1801 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2087.4734 (pause 0.63) 2088.1026 1802 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2088.1026 Then we'd say uh, 2089.0978 1803 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2089.0978 (pause 0.24) 2089.3415 1804 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2089.3415 /Idz do domu/ /?/ (Polish language) 2090.9001 1805 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2090.9001 (pause 0.15) 2091.0493 1806 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2091.0493 That means 2091.5531 1807 DTA_int_01 2091.6431 Hm. 2091.7441 1808 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2091.7770 go home. 2092.3192 1809 DTA_int_01 2092.5456 2093.1369 1810 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2093.4574 Yeah. 2093.8218 1811 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2093.8218 (pause 0.11) 2093.9288 1812 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2093.9288 /unintelligible/ 2094.8551 1813 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2094.8551 (pause 0.93) 2095.7812 1814 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2095.7812 Curse words that he was saying to me. 2097.6408 1815 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2097.6408 (pause 0.91) 2098.5518 1816 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2098.5518 But um. 2099.1781 1817 DTA_int_01 2099.5224 That sounds like you 2100.3106 1818 DTA_int_01 2100.3106 (pause 0.39) 2100.6991 1819 DTA_int_01 2100.6991 did alright. 2101.0943 1820 DTA_int_01 2101.0943 (pause 0.11) 2101.2062 1821 DTA_int_01 2101.2062 2101.6760 1822 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2101.6760 Yeah, I know quite a bit of 'em, uh 2103.4716 1823 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2103.9427 like he'd say- call you /tis swinia/. (Polish language) 2106.4043 1824 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2106.4043 (pause 0.41) 2106.8115 1825 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2106.8115 Say you dirty pig. 2107.9398 1826 DTA_int_01 2108.0913 2108.5808 1827 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2110.4420 Know a couple of 'em I think about it 2112.1340 1828 DTA_int_01 2112.4322 Huh. 2112.5858 1829 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2113.0841 Well, uh, yeah. There's the Polish- um, I don't remember 2116.0385 1830 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2116.0385 (pause 0.36) 2116.3996 1831 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2116.3996 any other 2117.3457 1832 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2117.3457 (pause 0.59) 2117.9340 1833 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2117.9340 uh 2118.4633 1834 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2118.4633 (pause 0.92) 2119.3875 1835 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2119.3875 descent 2119.9428 1836 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2119.9428 (pause 0.18) 2120.1201 1837 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2120.1201 that would speak 2121.3319 1838 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2121.3319 (pause 0.46) 2121.7878 1839 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2121.7878 the lang- but the Polish, because that was a 2123.7091 1840 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2123.7091 (pause 0.10) 2123.8123 1841 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2123.8123 Polish 2124.2255 1842 DTA_int_01 2124.3880 Oh, yeah. 2124.7304 1843 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2124.9100 town 2125.3550 1844 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2125.3550 (pause 0.15) 2125.5087 1845 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2125.5087 out there. 2126.0080 1846 DTA_int_01 2126.9667 What about whe- in your group, was there one guy they would kind of consider the ruler- or the 2131.0500 1847 DTA_int_01 2131.0500 (pause 0.11) 2131.1641 1848 DTA_int_01 2131.1641 not the ruler. The leader. 2132.3353 1849 DTA_int_01 2132.3353 (pause 0.61) 2132.9403 1850 DTA_int_01 2132.9403 And they kind of looked up to him or 2134.6999 1851 DTA_int_01 2134.6999 (pause 0.41) 2135.1135 1852 DTA_int_01 2135.1135 and uh. 2135.6008 1853 DTA_int_01 2135.6008 (pause 0.57) 2136.1718 1854 DTA_int_01 2136.1718 Uh. 2136.3847 1855 DTA_int_01 2136.3847 (pause 0.54) 2136.9291 1856 DTA_int_01 2136.9291 Relied on him for decisions and stuff like this? 2139.1833 1857 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2140.6995 Well, in high school, I- I guess you would say, I well, you know had a 2144.0518 1858 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2144.0518 (pause 0.26) 2144.3152 1859 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2144.3152 guy named /RD-NAME-4/. 2145.6899 1860 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2145.6899 (pause 1.07) 2146.7589 1861 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2146.7589 When he was a- 2147.5829 1862 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2147.5829 (pause 1.78) 2149.3651 1863 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2149.3651 pretty popular. He was pre- pretty good in football. 2151.8804 1864 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2151.8804 (pause 1.13) 2153.0104 1865 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2153.0104 And 2153.5723 1866 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2153.5723 (pause 1.61) 2155.1838 1867 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2155.1838 every time they would have a 2156.5056 1868 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2156.5056 (pause 0.29) 2156.7910 1869 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2156.7910 m- uh, 2157.3419 1870 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2157.3419 (pause 1.25) 2158.5913 1871 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2158.5913 I forget what kind of meetings they called 'em. When you have a general meeting 2161.5528 1872 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2161.5528 (pause 0.67) 2162.2187 1873 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2162.2187 he would be- 2162.8224 1874 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2162.8224 (pause 0.72) 2163.5424 1875 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2163.5424 uh, 2163.9397 1876 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2163.9397 (pause 1.32) 2165.2634 1877 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2165.2634 he would be about, uh, what I would say my uh, estimation, a leader because he would 2169.3170 1878 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2169.3170 (pause 0.52) 2169.8328 1879 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2169.8328 suggest something, everybody would follow him. 2171.9404 1880 DTA_int_01 2172.1805 Hm. 2172.3210 1881 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2172.6876 But I think it was 2173.4822 1882 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2173.4822 (pause 0.55) 2174.0332 1883 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2174.0332 well not because he had a 2175.2790 1884 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2175.2790 (pause 1.48) 2176.7593 1885 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2176.7593 uh, good decisive power, uh, know 2179.1471 1886 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2179.1471 (pause 0.41) 2179.5598 1887 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2179.5598 what- 2179.7112 1888 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2179.7112 (pause 1.23) 2180.9431 1889 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2180.9431 forthcoming and so forth, but because he was 2182.9647 1890 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2182.9647 (pause 0.08) 2183.0437 1891 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2183.0437 popular, 2183.4915 1892 DTA_int_01 2183.7442 Hm. 2183.9638 1893 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2184.0274 you know, and everybody likes the hero, he always 2186.8819 1894 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2186.8819 (pause 0.32) 2187.2046 1895 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2187.2046 make a touchdown. 2188.0058 1896 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2188.0058 (pause 0.71) 2188.7124 1897 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2188.7124 Something like that. 2189.4148 1898 DTA_int_01 2189.9263 Hm. 2190.1477 1899 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2190.2772 He's the only one I can think of right now. 2192.0317 1900 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2192.0317 (pause 1.74) 2193.7744 1901 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2193.7744 Mm-hm. 2194.0679 1902 DTA_int_01 2194.3912 Um. 2194.6941 1903 DTA_int_01 2194.6941 (pause 0.39) 2195.0805 1904 DTA_int_01 2195.0805 Now, whe- when you were in, uh, well, let's say in high school, you were- 2198.5935 1905 DTA_int_01 2198.5935 (pause 0.58) 2199.1706 1906 DTA_int_01 2199.1706 what did you, uh, want to be when you finished 2201.1731 1907 DTA_int_01 2201.1731 (pause 0.11) 2201.2872 1908 DTA_int_01 2201.2872 your education? 2202.2660 1909 DTA_int_01 2202.2660 (pause 0.17) 2202.4403 1910 DTA_int_01 2202.4403 /to/ 2202.6463 1911 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2202.6523 I wanted to be a musician. 2203.7782 1912 DTA_int_01 2204.1513 Uh-huh. 2204.3862 1913 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2204.5377 Mm-hm. 2204.8867 1914 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2204.8867 (pause 0.57) 2205.4575 1915 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2205.4575 But I was- 2206.3042 1916 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2206.3042 (pause 0.85) 2207.1537 1917 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2207.1537 I went far with drum- fact, I got a set of drums up in the attic right [now.] 2210.8775 1918 DTA_int_01 2210.7545 [Hm.] 2211.0048 1919 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2211.0334 When I bought- 2211.7032 1920 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2211.7032 (pause 0.17) 2211.8766 1921 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2211.8766 with my 2212.5508 1922 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2212.5508 (pause 0.24) 2212.7906 1923 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2212.7906 first job I had 2213.7167 1924 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2213.7167 (pause 0.80) 2214.5179 1925 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2214.5179 I paid for it, eleven dollars a week. 2216.1738 1926 DTA_int_01 2216.5382 Huh. 2216.7380 1927 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2216.7781 Paid f- 2217.0453 1928 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2217.0453 (pause 0.46) 2217.5038 1929 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2217.5038 Mm-hm. 2217.8002 1930 DTA_int_01 2217.8968 How long would it have taken to become a 2219.5530 1931 DTA_int_01 2219.5530 (pause 0.29) 2219.8389 1932 DTA_int_01 2219.8389 become a professional musician? 2221.3733 1933 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2221.6499 Pardon? 2221.9509 1934 DTA_int_01 2222.3833 How long would have taken to become a [professional musician?] 2225.1881 1935 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2224.4975 [Wouldn't've long] if I had pursued it. 2226.3340 1936 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2226.9715 Uh. 2227.4763 1937 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2227.4763 (pause 1.01) 2228.4886 1938 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2228.4886 I lost interest in it when I went in the service. [I- um,] 2231.1214 1939 DTA_int_01 2230.7053 [Oh.] 2231.0785 1940 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2231.9937 um, 2232.4239 1941 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2232.4239 (pause 0.32) 2232.7466 1942 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2232.7466 I got pretty good with it, you know, I- we had a little 2235.3121 1943 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2235.3121 (pause 0.62) 2235.9309 1944 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2235.9309 temporary band. A little 2237.0768 1945 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2237.0768 (pause 0.13) 2237.2063 1946 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2237.2063 make up band we had 2238.3744 1947 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2238.3744 (pause 0.09) 2238.4668 1948 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2238.4668 from the fellows that were in the- in the um 2240.7912 1949 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2240.7912 (pause 0.81) 2241.6029 1950 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2241.6029 band and orchestra with me. 2242.9200 1951 DTA_int_01 2243.1423 [Uh-huh.] 2243.3934 1952 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2243.3091 [we] would meet on 2244.1292 1953 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2244.4607 we met at the /RD-SCHOOL-4/ Junior High School. 2247.0317 1954 DTA_int_01 2247.2351 Huh. 2247.4093 1955 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2247.4817 And they were nice enough to give us a room for- 2249.6675 1956 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2249.6675 (pause 0.66) 2250.3305 1957 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2250.3305 for practice. 2251.1808 1958 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2251.1808 (pause 0.71) 2251.8937 1959 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2251.8937 And we 2252.2712 1960 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2252.2712 (pause 0.56) 2252.8288 1961 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2252.8288 played maybe one or two little parties and that when I got called from some other groups 2257.3357 1962 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2257.3357 (pause 0.76) 2258.0996 1963 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2258.0996 to sit in with 'em, you know, and [play with] 'em, /some/ nights. 2260.8712 1964 DTA_int_01 2259.7068 [Hm.] 2259.9702 1965 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2261.5243 But when I went in the service, 2262.7250 1966 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2262.7250 (pause 1.02) 2263.7444 1967 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2263.7444 um, 2264.1768 1968 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2264.1768 (pause 0.19) 2264.3700 1969 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2264.3700 went up in Fort Sheridan. 2265.4895 1970 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2265.4895 (pause 1.14) 2266.6277 1971 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2266.6277 Fort Sheridan, Illinois. 2267.9777 1972 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2267.9777 (pause 0.11) 2268.0853 1973 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2268.0853 That's where the in- uh, the um 2269.7415 1974 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2269.7415 (pause 0.50) 2270.2376 1975 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2270.2376 reception center at that time was. 2271.9221 1976 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2271.9221 (pause 0.67) 2272.5947 1977 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2272.5947 Uh, 2273.1061 1978 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2273.1061 (pause 0.14) 2273.2507 1979 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2273.2507 I had the chance to sit in an orchestra and play. 2275.7071 1980 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2275.7071 (pause 0.67) 2276.3722 1981 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2276.3722 And at the same time, I had taken a 2277.9782 1982 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2277.9782 (pause 0.17) 2278.1451 1983 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2278.1451 uh 2278.5388 1984 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2278.5388 (pause 0.27) 2278.8132 1985 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2278.8132 musical test before, 2280.0842 1986 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2280.0842 (pause 0.49) 2280.5759 1987 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2280.5759 to get in the special services. 2281.8683 1988 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2281.8683 (pause 0.62) 2282.4873 1989 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2282.4873 And this was 2283.1481 1990 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2283.1481 (pause 0.11) 2283.2534 1991 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2283.2534 what I had in my mind 2284.2604 1992 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2284.2604 (pause 0.14) 2284.4009 1993 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2284.4009 banked on, you know. 2285.2395 1994 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2285.2395 (pause 0.82) 2286.0627 1995 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2286.0627 And I passed the test and everything, and the- this- 2288.7761 1996 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2288.7761 (pause 0.14) 2288.9166 1997 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2288.9166 the guys that gave me the test, they told me they were- 2291.1864 1998 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2291.1864 (pause 0.55) 2291.7332 1999 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2291.7332 I would be hearing from 'em. This was in- 2293.7223 2000 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2293.7223 (pause 0.64) 2294.3589 2001 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2294.3589 in uh, 2295.0504 2002 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2295.0504 (pause 0.82) 2295.8724 2003 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2295.8724 um, 2296.5332 2004 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2296.5332 (pause 0.65) 2297.1829 2005 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2297.1829 January of nineteen forty-four. 2299.2285 2006 DTA_int_01 2299.6232 Hm. 2299.9612 2007 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2300.4825 And uh, so I had my hopes high. Wrote my mother and told 'em about- about it, you know, that I'm- 2305.2635 2008 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2305.2635 (pause 0.13) 2305.3974 2009 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2305.3974 I might be able to get into special service into- 2307.7723 2010 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2307.7723 (pause 1.17) 2308.9407 2011 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2308.9407 uh, in the uh 2309.9329 2012 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2309.9329 (pause 0.22) 2310.1554 2013 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2310.1554 band or orchestra with the 2311.6623 2014 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2311.6623 (pause 0.11) 2311.7677 2015 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2311.7677 Army. 2312.1826 2016 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2312.1826 (pause 1.46) 2313.6407 2017 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2313.6407 When I w- uh 2314.5435 2018 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2314.5435 (pause 0.73) 2315.2745 2019 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2315.2745 uh, about 2315.9895 2020 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2315.9895 (pause 0.49) 2316.4746 2021 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2316.4746 I'd say two weeks later 2317.8524 2022 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2317.8524 (pause 0.09) 2317.9424 2023 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2317.9424 we 2318.2914 2024 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2318.2914 (pause 0.09) 2318.3858 2025 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2318.3858 got shipped out down in Camp Lee Virginia. 2320.3858 2026 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2320.3858 (pause 0.56) 2320.9434 2027 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2320.9434 So, uh, 2321.6925 2028 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2321.6925 (pause 1.32) 2323.0108 2029 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2323.0108 we were in the process of learning us how to march 2324.9215 2030 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2324.9215 (pause 0.68) 2325.6020 2031 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2325.6020 you know 2325.9568 2032 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2325.9568 (pause 0.12) 2326.0732 2033 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2326.0732 and so forth. 2326.6768 2034 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2326.6768 (pause 0.66) 2327.3397 2035 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2327.3397 And 2327.7876 2036 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2327.7876 (pause 0.36) 2328.1454 2037 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2328.1454 through our conversation, they- the uh, 2330.1188 2038 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2330.1188 (pause 0.56) 2330.6794 2039 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2330.6794 uh, 2331.3072 2040 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2331.3072 (pause 0.78) 2332.0865 2041 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2332.0865 commander heard that I had 2333.2545 2042 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2333.2545 (pause 0.34) 2333.5948 2043 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2333.5948 little musical 2334.2380 2044 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2334.2380 (pause 0.08) 2334.3214 2045 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2334.3214 training, that I was a drummer. 2335.3819 2046 DTA_int_01 2335.5444 Mm-hm 2335.7889 2047 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2336.1502 So he purchased a drum, a ba- field drum. 2338.4546 2048 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2338.4546 (pause 0.20) 2338.6587 2049 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2338.6587 [The field drum's] a deep one. 2339.8518 2050 DTA_int_01 2338.7897 [Oh.] 2339.1497 2051 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2340.5765 And uh, to learn this 2342.0400 2052 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2342.0400 (pause 0.52) 2342.5559 2053 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2342.5559 our company had a march, I would 2343.8702 2054 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2343.8702 (pause 0.25) 2344.1183 2055 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2344.1183 play the- 2344.6144 2056 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2344.6144 (pause 0.25) 2344.8646 2057 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2344.8646 I played the drums. 2345.7520 2058 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2345.7520 (pause 0.67) 2346.4240 2059 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2346.4240 And so forth, but I f- feeling pretty good. I'm uh 2348.7520 2060 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2348.7520 (pause 0.18) 2348.9276 2061 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2348.9276 still got my mind on this 2350.4241 2062 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2350.4241 (pause 0.31) 2350.7361 2063 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2350.7361 special service. 2351.5636 2064 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2351.5636 (pause 0.51) 2352.0729 2065 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2352.0729 And they never- 2352.7951 2066 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2352.7951 (pause 0.12) 2352.9115 2067 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2352.9115 I never heard from 'em. 2353.8795 2068 DTA_int_01 2353.9827 You didn't hear anything at all? 2354.9206 2069 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2355.2389 Never heard a thing. 2356.2478 2070 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2356.2478 (pause 0.34) 2356.5924 2071 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2356.5924 In fact, this was in nineteen forty-four, January when I went to Camp Lee. 2360.2139 2072 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2360.2139 (pause 0.52) 2360.7358 2073 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2360.7358 Um. 2361.2823 2074 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2361.2823 (pause 1.43) 2362.7086 2075 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2362.7086 July- 2363.6262 2076 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2363.6262 (pause 0.15) 2363.7733 2077 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2363.7733 on July the fourth, we were on a train going to Seattle, Washington, be shipped out to Hawaii. 2368.6223 2078 DTA_int_01 2368.9780 Hm. 2369.1799 2079 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2369.4850 In six months. 2370.2599 2080 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2370.2599 (pause 0.97) 2371.2255 2081 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2371.2255 So I, uh, 2371.9414 2082 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2371.9414 (pause 0.23) 2372.1689 2083 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2372.1689 forgot all about it. 2373.0590 2084 DTA_int_01 2373.5150 Hm. 2373.6972 2085 DTA_int_01 2373.6972 (pause 1.93) 2375.6317 2086 DTA_int_01 2375.6317 Um. 2375.9961 2087 DTA_int_01 2375.9961 (pause 0.71) 2376.7087 2088 DTA_int_01 2376.7087 If yo- if you could do- uh, if you could do it all over again, what would you want to be? 2380.3993 2089 DTA_int_01 2380.3993 (pause 0.30) 2380.7001 2090 DTA_int_01 2380.7001 /inaudible/ 2381.2006 2091 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2381.6557 What uh, my life all over [again?] 2383.2208 2092 DTA_int_01 2382.9523 [Yeah.] 2383.1938 2093 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2385.4708 Well, I know one thing, I would 2386.6277 2094 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2386.6277 (pause 0.61) 2387.2399 2095 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2387.2399 try to further my education. 2388.5965 2096 DTA_int_01 2388.8522 Uh-huh. 2389.0495 2097 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2389.3897 I would. 2389.7563 2098 DTA_int_01 2390.0702 You completed high school [then?] 2391.4147 2099 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2391.3642 [I] did complete high school, but I would try to 2393.3193 2100 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2393.8022 go to college like my mother wanted me to go. I did- never did go, she wanted me to. 2397.1545 2101 DTA_int_01 2397.3411 Hm. 2397.6023 2102 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2398.0589 At the time, I- 2398.9852 2103 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2398.9852 (pause 0.72) 2399.7030 2104 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2399.7030 I could have gotten a scholarship for- 2401.5560 2105 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2401.5560 (pause 0.22) 2401.7777 2106 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2401.7777 I don't know what I- what it was about but 2403.2468 2107 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2403.2468 (pause 0.33) 2403.5783 2108 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2403.5783 my father died when I was twelve. 2405.1349 2109 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2405.1349 (pause 0.89) 2406.0215 2110 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2406.0215 But it's something 2406.9302 2111 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2406.9302 (pause 0.27) 2407.2024 2112 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2407.2024 they had worked out down there with the welfare and everything when we were on welfare. 2411.1339 2113 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2411.1339 (pause 0.75) 2411.8822 2114 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2411.8822 That they were 2412.4815 2115 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2412.4815 (pause 0.29) 2412.7734 2116 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2412.7734 gonna send me to college if I wanted to. 2414.8127 2117 DTA_int_01 2415.0388 Hm. 2415.2495 2118 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2415.4405 She asked me, I remember when she asked me did I want to go, I told her no, and when I got out of high school, I was 2419.8750 2119 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2419.8750 (pause 0.51) 2420.3895 2120 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2420.3895 I said, that's it for me. 2421.4750 2121 DTA_int_01 2421.5452 Hm. 2421.7318 2122 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2422.4013 I thought that it was sissies that- that went to college, but I know differently now. 2426.3468 2123 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2426.3468 (pause 0.34) 2426.6851 2124 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2426.6851 That you can have your cake and eat it too. 2428.3880 2125 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2428.3880 (pause 0.76) 2429.1492 2126 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2429.1492 See. 2429.4856 2127 DTA_int_01 2429.8693 Hm. 2430.0462 2128 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2430.0986 But I would 2430.6298 2129 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2430.6298 (pause 0.30) 2430.9283 2130 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2430.9283 definitely 2431.6546 2131 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2431.6546 (pause 0.88) 2432.5308 2132 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2432.5308 further my education. 2433.7579 2133 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2433.7579 (pause 0.49) 2434.2496 2134 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2434.2496 I would go on to college and, uh, 2435.9892 2135 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2435.9892 (pause 0.78) 2436.7696 2136 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2436.7696 and I would- 2437.2745 2137 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2437.2745 (pause 1.59) 2438.8616 2138 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2438.8616 would like to be a musician. 2440.1180 2139 DTA_int_01 2440.4719 Hm. 2440.7099 2140 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2440.9906 Mm-hm. 2441.3567 2141 DTA_int_01 2441.6923 Um. 2442.0674 2142 DTA_int_01 2442.0674 (pause 0.20) 2442.2688 2143 DTA_int_01 2442.2688 If you had all the money you could ever want, uh, what would you do with it? 2445.0908 2144 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2445.8874 Right now? 2446.3831 2145 DTA_int_01 2446.5113 Yeah. 2446.7249 2146 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2446.8591 Just a blank statement? 2448.1039 2147 DTA_int_01 2448.2504 Yeah. 2448.4762 2148 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2449.4782 Well, I would 2450.1250 2149 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2450.1250 (pause 0.74) 2450.8694 2150 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2450.8694 send my wife to a doctor, she's got an illness right now that- 2453.6383 2151 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2453.6383 (pause 0.54) 2454.1786 2152 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2454.1786 that's what I would do first. 2455.6187 2153 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2455.6187 (pause 0.72) 2456.3387 2154 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2456.3387 She went to several doctors, she's got something called neurodermatitis. 2460.3073 2155 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2460.3073 (pause 0.27) 2460.5819 2156 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2460.5819 It's itching. 2461.2776 2157 DTA_int_01 2461.4668 Hm. 2461.7414 2158 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2462.3333 And, uh, she's- gets carried away, and she's very strong person to 2465.6088 2159 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2465.6088 (pause 0.26) 2465.8650 2160 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2465.8650 endure it. 2466.3471 2161 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2466.3471 (pause 0.43) 2466.7743 2162 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2466.7743 But if I had all the money in the world, that's I would try to find a good specialist 2469.9612 2163 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2469.9612 (pause 0.42) 2470.3823 2164 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2470.3823 for her. 2470.7972 2165 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2470.7972 (pause 0.70) 2471.4963 2166 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2471.4963 We've been to doctors all over, here and there, 2473.5288 2167 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2473.5288 (pause 0.75) 2474.2794 2168 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2474.2794 you know, with the money we've- well, we- we're in this uh, 2476.7888 2169 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2476.7888 (pause 0.19) 2476.9791 2170 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2476.9791 community health association plan out of CHC Metropolitan 2480.3693 2171 DTA_int_01 2480.5585 Oh. 2480.7782 2172 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2480.7965 Hospital over here now and 2482.2566 2173 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2482.2566 (pause 0.49) 2482.7509 2174 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2482.7509 so. 2483.3292 2175 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2483.3292 (pause 0.11) 2483.4361 2176 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2483.4361 I just joined this plan. I work at a Post Office, 2485.7115 2177 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2485.7115 (pause 0.15) 2485.8579 2178 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2485.8579 [so the] government pays a 2487.1699 2179 DTA_int_01 2485.8579 [Mm-hm.] 2486.2179 2180 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2487.6031 portion of it. 2488.1530 2181 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2488.1530 (pause 0.98) 2489.1293 2182 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2489.1293 And um 2489.7517 2183 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2489.7517 (pause 0.99) 2490.7403 2184 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2490.7403 she- uh, before I was laid off from work, back in- we were living down in the- in the projects 2495.2371 2185 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2495.2371 (pause 0.83) 2496.0670 2186 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2496.0670 in the- in the 2496.8907 2187 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2496.8907 (pause 0.48) 2497.3728 2188 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2497.3728 when I laid off from work, she was able to get care down in Receiving Hospital, this out patient 2501.0121 2189 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2501.0121 (pause 0.42) 2501.4332 2190 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2501.4332 and they did pretty good wi- with her you know. 2503.6137 2191 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2503.6137 (pause 0.48) 2504.0897 2192 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2504.0897 But, uh, 2504.6450 2193 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2504.6450 (pause 0.30) 2504.9440 2194 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2504.9440 wasn't a- is- told her wasn't any cure, you know, for definite. 2509.0827 2195 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2509.0827 (pause 0.18) 2509.2657 2196 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2509.2657 They did more for her 2510.1150 2197 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2510.1150 (pause 0.29) 2510.4079 2198 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2510.4079 then she's getting done for her now. 2512.0738 2199 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2512.0738 (pause 0.48) 2512.5497 2200 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2512.5497 I was laid off from work 2513.5720 2201 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2513.5720 (pause 0.48) 2514.0479 2202 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2514.0479 but it- just what I'm trying to say, now we are with this plan, 2516.7573 2203 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2516.7573 (pause 0.88) 2517.6351 2204 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2517.6351 this hospital plan over here an- and she go to the dermat- dermatitis- 2522.1180 2205 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2522.1180 (pause 0.23) 2522.3476 2206 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2522.3476 dermatitis specialist. 2523.4942 2207 DTA_int_01 2523.7567 Mm-hm. 2524.0374 2208 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2524.5743 And sh- 2525.3096 2209 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2525.3096 (pause 0.19) 2525.4957 2210 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2525.4957 he discourages and 2526.6706 2211 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2526.6706 (pause 0.35) 2527.0185 2212 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2527.0185 well, you know there's no cure for you. 2528.8176 2213 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2528.8176 (pause 0.18) 2529.0006 2214 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2529.0006 Point blank. There wa- no- nothing to go on y- 2531.2889 2215 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2531.2889 (pause 0.55) 2531.8407 2216 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2531.8407 and she feels so bad. 2533.2930 2217 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2533.2930 (pause 0.56) 2533.8515 2218 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2533.8515 Then her aunt- 2534.6409 2219 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2534.6409 (pause 0.19) 2534.8349 2220 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2534.8349 her aunt 2535.3410 2221 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2535.3410 (pause 0.47) 2535.8109 2222 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2535.8109 had something similar to her, but it wasn't- wasn't as serious. 2538.9963 2223 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2538.9963 (pause 0.76) 2539.7530 2224 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2539.7530 And she recommended her doctor that's over there. She- she went to him 2543.5784 2225 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2543.5784 (pause 0.51) 2544.0910 2226 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2544.0910 so she 2544.4693 2227 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2544.4693 (pause 0.21) 2544.6800 2228 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2544.6800 he told her the same thing, you know. 2546.3520 2229 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2546.3520 (pause 1.22) 2547.5694 2230 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2547.5694 So this is one of these things. It's a nervous condition that she's get a scratching mood she just you know, can't stop. 2554.0193 2231 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2554.0193 (pause 0.90) 2554.9184 2232 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2554.9184 But this is what I would do 2556.0595 2233 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2556.0595 (pause 0.45) 2556.5050 2234 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2556.5050 if I got 2557.0542 2235 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2557.0542 (pause 1.70) 2558.7580 2236 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2558.7580 any money, i- to any- any extent, you know. 2561.3413 2237 DTA_int_01 2562.5339 Uh. 2562.8917 2238 DTA_int_01 2562.8917 (pause 0.24) 2563.1319 2239 DTA_int_01 2563.1319 Uh, can you describe 2564.4154 2240 DTA_int_01 2564.4154 (pause 0.51) 2564.9219 2241 DTA_int_01 2564.9219 briefly, uh 2565.6908 2242 DTA_int_01 2565.6908 (pause 0.49) 2566.1850 2243 DTA_int_01 2566.1850 what your 2567.0721 2244 DTA_int_01 2567.0721 (pause 0.16) 2567.2305 2245 DTA_int_01 2567.2305 days activity is? 2568.5451 2246 DTA_int_01 2568.5451 (pause 0.13) 2568.6718 2247 DTA_int_01 2568.6718 Like at your job? 2569.7148 2248 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2571.1427 At my job. At my [present job?] 2572.5126 2249 DTA_int_01 2572.1282 [Yeah. at] your job. [Mm-hm.] 2573.3181 2250 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2573.2191 [Yeah.] Well, uh 2574.1222 2251 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2574.8605 I'm a postal clerk and, uh, I sort mail. 2577.2329 2252 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2577.2329 (pause 0.83) 2578.0611 2253 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2578.0611 I work in the parcel postal section at the postal service, 2580.7505 2254 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2580.7505 (pause 0.70) 2581.4461 2255 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2581.4461 and uh, I have one job and, uh, 2583.3105 2256 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2583.3105 (pause 0.77) 2584.0855 2257 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2584.0855 the three fellas and I alternate on 2585.8518 2258 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2585.8518 (pause 0.12) 2585.9739 2259 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2585.9739 each week. 2586.4946 2260 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2586.4946 (pause 0.45) 2586.9400 2261 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2586.9400 There's a different fellow on this job. It's called a 2588.9490 2262 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2588.9490 (pause 0.37) 2589.3173 2263 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2589.3173 exchange case where all the 2591.0609 2264 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2591.0609 (pause 0.89) 2591.9518 2265 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2591.9518 uh, firm mail is handled. Like Kresge's, JL Hudson, 2596.3262 2266 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2596.3262 (pause 0.60) 2596.9243 2267 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2596.9243 Chrysler, 2597.4918 2268 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2597.4918 (pause 0.31) 2597.7969 2269 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2597.7969 uh, 2598.3583 2270 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2598.3583 (pause 0.18) 2598.5413 2271 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2598.5413 Parke Davis, 2599.3184 2272 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2599.3184 (pause 0.26) 2599.5808 2273 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2599.5808 Crowley Milner, 2600.4839 2274 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2600.4839 (pause 0.50) 2600.9886 2275 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2600.9886 Burroughs- 2601.6494 2276 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2601.6494 (pause 0.69) 2602.3396 2277 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2602.3396 Burroughs Adding Machine, 2603.6150 2278 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2603.6150 (pause 0.56) 2604.1765 2279 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2604.1765 uh, American Motors. All these firms in the city, they have a lot of mail that they handle. 2608.3126 2280 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2608.3126 (pause 0.49) 2608.8008 2281 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2608.8008 These people uh, uh re- 2610.3569 2282 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2610.3569 (pause 0.20) 2610.5582 2283 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2610.5582 prefer to pick their mail up themselves. 2612.7663 2284 DTA_int_01 2612.8676 Hm. 2613.0812 2285 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2613.3745 You know, without the post office deliver. Well I work in this section. 2616.0241 2286 DTA_int_01 2616.2011 Oh, I see. 2616.7921 2287 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2616.8601 And um, 2617.5373 2288 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2617.5373 (pause 0.21) 2617.7509 2289 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2617.7509 what I do is- uh, 2618.8188 2290 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2618.8188 (pause 0.63) 2619.4534 2291 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2619.4534 when I have- my time to work on this exchange case, my week 2622.5485 2292 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2622.5485 (pause 0.44) 2622.9893 2293 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2622.9893 well, I deliver 2623.7887 2294 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2623.7887 (pause 1.11) 2624.8973 2295 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2624.8973 mail to these 2625.8249 2296 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2625.8249 (pause 0.20) 2626.0262 2297 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2626.0262 callers when they come in. 2627.2161 2298 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2627.2161 (pause 0.75) 2627.9648 2299 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2627.9648 And this is just the set up 2629.7875 2300 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2629.7875 (pause 0.13) 2629.9185 2301 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2629.9185 where the- all their mail is 2631.3669 2302 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2631.3669 (pause 0.24) 2631.6110 2303 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2631.6110 all processed and everything. So, when they come in, they might have 2634.3010 2304 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2634.3010 (pause 0.40) 2634.7038 2305 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2634.7038 some insured mail they'll have to sign for to certify it, 2637.3416 2306 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2637.3416 (pause 0.31) 2637.6528 2307 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2637.6528 uh, register it, 2638.4095 2308 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2638.4095 (pause 0.29) 2638.7024 2309 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2638.7024 they will have to sign for it and I have to give it to 'em. 2640.7231 2310 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2640.7231 (pause 0.63) 2641.3575 2311 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2641.3575 And this is one part of it and the other part of my 2643.6104 2312 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2643.6104 (pause 0.37) 2643.9765 2313 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2643.9765 work starts off if I'm not down on this exchange case 2646.9269 2314 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2646.9269 (pause 0.54) 2647.4639 2315 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2647.4639 starts off by, um, 2648.6965 2316 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2648.6965 (pause 0.75) 2649.4471 2317 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2649.4471 well, we have to get our mail 2651.0707 2318 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2651.0707 (pause 1.51) 2652.5841 2319 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2652.5841 uh, 2653.2676 2320 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2653.2676 (pause 1.16) 2654.4237 2321 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2654.4237 we got 2654.8143 2322 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2654.8143 (pause 0.37) 2655.1804 2323 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2655.1804 lay out on the floor and 2656.6809 2324 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2656.6809 (pause 0.82) 2657.4975 2325 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2657.4975 say for one station we'll have 2659.0902 2326 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2659.0902 (pause 1.09) 2660.1831 2327 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2660.1831 uh, maybe twenty sections 2662.0817 2328 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2662.0817 (pause 0.82) 2662.9055 2329 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2662.9055 and we have some mail that 2664.0161 2330 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2664.0161 (pause 0.87) 2664.8892 2331 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2664.8892 well, this is automatic s- 2665.9510 2332 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2665.9510 (pause 0.43) 2666.3843 2333 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2666.3843 post office work now. It's a new one down there- 2668.0907 2334 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2668.0907 (pause 0.61) 2668.7010 2335 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2668.7010 the mail comes down the chute, see that's- whatever the midnight shift has left, we have to work it up. 2672.9984 2336 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2672.9984 (pause 0.67) 2673.6635 2337 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2673.6635 So we have to 2674.5651 2338 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2674.5651 (pause 0.14) 2674.7005 2339 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2674.7005 pick up a package and it's got 2676.1288 2340 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2676.1288 (pause 0.95) 2677.0746 2341 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2677.0746 ninety-three seventy-six Otsego. 2678.8241 2342 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2678.8241 (pause 0.54) 2679.3672 2343 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2679.3672 So, we got to look on a board, see what section this goes into 2682.4534 2344 DTA_int_01 2682.5083 Hm. 2682.7707 2345 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2683.0833 Ninety-three seventy-six, might be- go between ninety-three seventy-six and ninety 2686.7122 2346 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2686.7122 (pause 0.47) 2687.1821 2347 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2687.1821 eight hundred would go into section four. 2689.0041 2348 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2689.0041 (pause 0.77) 2689.7729 2349 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2689.7729 So, this package would go into section four. You'd throw it into that sack. 2692.6349 2350 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2692.6349 (pause 0.37) 2693.0071 2351 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2693.0071 So when that sack gets full, 2694.3740 2352 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2694.3740 (pause 0.93) 2695.3071 2353 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2695.3071 we got to count these pieces 2696.7865 2354 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2696.7865 (pause 0.18) 2696.9634 2355 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2696.9634 each one. 2697.5736 2356 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2697.5736 (pause 0.20) 2697.7689 2357 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2697.7689 Take 'em back out. And this is something I'm working out now, trying to get some money on how to eliminate this 2701.7026 2358 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2701.7026 (pause 0.29) 2701.9894 2359 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2701.9894 cause it's a waste of time. 2702.7951 2360 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2702.7951 (pause 0.26) 2703.0514 2361 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2703.0514 After we fill up a sack 2704.3584 2362 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2704.3584 (pause 0.66) 2705.0174 2363 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2705.0174 we got to 2705.4635 2364 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2705.4635 (pause 0.13) 2705.5917 2365 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2705.5917 s- count all these pieces, 2707.1925 2366 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2707.1925 (pause 0.54) 2707.7295 2367 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2707.7295 one, two, then we got ten pieces, and then we got a label 2710.1354 2368 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2710.1354 (pause 0.60) 2710.7354 2369 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2710.7354 and this is section four. 2711.9904 2370 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2711.9904 (pause 0.63) 2712.6190 2371 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2712.6190 You put section four on a label 2714.2308 2372 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2714.2308 (pause 0.49) 2714.7189 2373 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2714.7189 and we put the ten pieces right along side 2717.2452 2374 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2717.2452 (pause 0.44) 2717.6846 2375 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2717.6846 on the label 2718.4543 2376 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2718.4543 (pause 0.34) 2718.7960 2377 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2718.7960 designating this. 2719.5856 2378 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2719.5856 (pause 0.39) 2719.9761 2379 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2719.9761 And we do this for the twenty section that we got. 2722.0546 2380 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2722.0546 (pause 0.77) 2722.8263 2381 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2722.8263 So when we get through counting all- these are the parcels that go in the sack, then we have some 2727.3115 2382 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2727.3115 (pause 0.39) 2727.7020 2383 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2727.7020 outside parcels too big to go in the 2729.8753 2384 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2729.8753 (pause 0.32) 2730.1941 2385 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2730.1941 sack. 2730.5686 2386 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2730.5686 (pause 0.58) 2731.1484 2387 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2731.1484 So we have a sheet, a worksheet 2732.7879 2388 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2732.7879 (pause 0.20) 2732.9832 2389 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2732.9832 that we have to record all this on, /to/ record 2735.4828 2390 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2735.4828 (pause 0.37) 2735.8490 2391 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2735.8490 all the outside pieces from one to twenty. 2738.0178 2392 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2738.0178 (pause 0.73) 2738.7501 2393 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2738.7501 Section one has how many outside, we have four pieces, you mark four. 2742.0880 2394 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2742.0880 (pause 0.38) 2742.4724 2395 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2742.4724 S- section two has section- ten, we mark ten. 2745.4366 2396 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2745.4366 (pause 0.39) 2745.8271 2397 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2745.8271 And we go all the way around 2746.9112 2398 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2746.9112 (pause 0.98) 2747.8957 2399 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2747.8957 And then 2748.4404 2400 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2748.4404 (pause 0.21) 2748.6479 2401 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2748.6479 we get through the outside, let me get to the sacks that we were working with. 2751.5769 2402 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2751.5769 (pause 0.62) 2752.1933 2403 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2752.1933 So we count 2752.9232 2404 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2752.9232 (pause 0.17) 2753.0936 2405 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2753.0936 section one has 2754.3596 2406 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2754.3596 (pause 1.09) 2755.4458 2407 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2755.4458 four pieces in this sack, 2756.6522 2408 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2756.6522 (pause 0.28) 2756.9361 2409 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2756.9361 put these under the /work/ 2758.0607 2410 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2758.0607 (pause 0.21) 2758.2682 2411 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2758.2682 sack pieces. 2759.1286 2412 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2759.1286 (pause 0.66) 2759.7913 2413 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2759.7913 Two and so forth. 2760.8775 2414 DTA_int_01 2761.0239 Hm. 2761.2802 2415 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2761.4769 Now this sheet is turned into, 2763.4540 2416 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2763.4540 (pause 0.28) 2763.7337 2417 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2763.7337 uh, 2764.1670 2418 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2764.1670 (pause 0.49) 2764.6552 2419 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2764.6552 special part in the post office 2766.4469 2420 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2766.4469 (pause 0.73) 2767.1731 2421 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2767.1731 and now, for- this is for- 2768.8024 2422 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2768.8024 (pause 0.38) 2769.1868 2423 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2769.1868 this process is for- is to 2770.8771 2424 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2770.8771 (pause 0.88) 2771.7533 2425 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2771.7533 uh, say they got 2772.6809 2426 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2772.6809 (pause 0.32) 2773.0058 2427 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2773.0058 four carriers is gonna deliver this mail in this one station. 2776.4108 2428 DTA_int_01 2776.6244 Mm-hm. 2776.8990 2429 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2777.1980 So it's gonna be equally- say if we got 2779.8096 2430 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2779.8096 (pause 0.73) 2780.5418 2431 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2780.5418 four hundred pieces. 2781.5180 2432 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2781.5180 (pause 0.74) 2782.2625 2433 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2782.2625 So these pieces gotta be distributed among these four carriers. 2785.2038 2434 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2785.2038 (pause 0.71) 2785.9177 2435 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2785.9177 So that's so they're not- 2786.8194 2436 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2786.8194 (pause 0.12) 2786.9373 2437 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2786.9373 one won't get no more than the other, one won't get too much. 2789.4470 2438 DTA_int_01 2789.6240 Mm-hm. 2789.8132 2439 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2789.8132 So this is what it is. 2790.7039 2440 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2790.9310 And each station is different. 2792.3283 2441 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2792.3283 (pause 0.24) 2792.5662 2442 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2792.5662 Some has more pieces. 2793.8294 2443 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2793.8294 (pause 0.35) 2794.1772 2444 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2794.1772 Some has less. 2795.0071 2445 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2795.0071 (pause 0.80) 2795.8039 2446 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2795.8039 So after this phase is through 2797.4027 2447 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2797.4027 (pause 2.16) 2799.5661 2448 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2799.5661 we get our 2800.4192 2449 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2800.4192 (pause 1.09) 2801.5079 2450 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2801.5079 after this, uh, worksheet goes in, 2803.6437 2451 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2803.6437 (pause 0.69) 2804.3373 2452 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2804.3373 2804.4203 2453 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2804.4203 (pause 0.48) 2804.9050 2454 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2804.9050 they give us some what we call a- cut 2806.3812 2455 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2806.3812 (pause 0.19) 2806.5733 2456 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2806.5733 sheets. 2807.1022 2457 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2807.1022 (pause 1.28) 2808.3788 2458 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2808.3788 some- this first cut will be sections one to five. 2811.9607 2459 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2811.9607 (pause 0.63) 2812.5913 2460 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2812.5913 Mark that on the floor. 2813.7629 2461 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2813.7629 (pause 0.56) 2814.3240 2462 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2814.3240 One to five. Have a steel truck 2816.1544 2463 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2816.1544 (pause 0.38) 2816.5345 2464 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2816.5345 right there. 2817.0064 2465 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2817.0064 (pause 0.35) 2817.3603 2466 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2817.3603 Other one will be six 2818.4872 2467 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2818.4872 (pause 0.46) 2818.9433 2468 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2818.9433 to ten. 2819.5795 2469 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2819.5795 (pause 0.29) 2819.8741 2470 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2819.8741 Other one will be 2820.5773 2471 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2820.5773 (pause 0.20) 2820.7738 2472 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2820.7738 ten to eleven. 2821.6681 2473 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2821.6681 (pause 0.61) 2822.2809 2474 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2822.2809 And twelve to twenty. 2823.4403 2475 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2823.4403 (pause 0.23) 2823.6661 2476 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2823.6661 We have four trucks. 2824.5361 2477 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2824.5361 (pause 0.51) 2825.0426 2478 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2825.0426 So everything 2826.0677 2479 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2826.0677 (pause 0.54) 2826.6047 2480 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2826.6047 for section one to five 2828.0955 2481 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2828.0955 (pause 0.19) 2828.2847 2482 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2828.2847 will go on that first truck. 2829.4244 2483 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2829.4244 (pause 0.29) 2829.7145 2484 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2829.7145 Pull 'em off the rack 2830.5533 2485 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2830.5533 (pause 0.50) 2831.0537 2486 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2831.0537 and go right on down on the line. 2832.2073 2487 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2832.2073 (pause 0.30) 2832.5097 2488 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2832.5097 And all the outside pieces will do the same thing. 2835.1278 2489 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2835.1278 (pause 0.62) 2835.7500 2490 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2835.7500 And so then 2836.4794 2491 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2836.4794 (pause 0.17) 2836.6506 2492 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2836.6506 this is all set. So, the carrier is supposed to get one to five, he come there he sees his 2840.2794 2493 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2840.2794 (pause 0.47) 2840.7493 2494 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2840.7493 his sacks, he sees his outside pieces 2842.7205 2495 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2842.7205 (pause 1.02) 2843.7395 2496 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2843.7395 push them out on the dock, 2844.6609 2497 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2844.6609 (pause 0.75) 2845.4156 2498 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2845.4156 and he goes on about his business. 2846.5139 2499 DTA_int_01 2846.7007 [Hm.] 2846.8808 2500 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2846.8442 [So] that's the first phase of it. And then after that, uh, 2849.3001 2501 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2849.6357 what we do then, we have to sack these racks up all over the floor 2852.6995 2502 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2852.6995 (pause 1.01) 2853.7125 2503 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2853.7125 all over, it takes about two hours, the whole crew. 2856.4048 2504 DTA_int_01 2856.8136 [Hm.] 2856.9922 2505 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2856.8155 [And we] sack our racks back up, 2858.2951 2506 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2858.7589 then we have the sorting machines that uh, we work on. 2861.6435 2507 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2861.6435 (pause 0.51) 2862.1561 2508 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2862.1561 These are automatic sorters that 2863.8291 2509 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2863.8291 (pause 0.92) 2864.7444 2510 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2864.7444 oh, 2865.0373 2511 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2865.0373 (pause 0.59) 2865.6313 2512 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2865.6313 one man will go up 2866.4184 2513 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2866.4184 (pause 0.21) 2866.6320 2514 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2866.6320 for one hour 2867.4558 2515 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2867.4558 (pause 0.78) 2868.2327 2516 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2868.2327 to sort 2868.7453 2517 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2868.7453 (pause 0.37) 2869.1176 2518 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2869.1176 mail. 2869.4715 2519 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2869.4715 (pause 0.91) 2870.3807 2520 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2870.3807 You know, 2870.5699 2521 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2870.5699 (pause 0.46) 2871.0275 2522 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2871.0275 [the mail] comes up on a conveyer 2872.6141 2523 DTA_int_01 2871.0338 [Hm.] 2871.2962 2524 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2873.0261 right /for/ to a keyboard and you- 2874.7103 2525 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2874.7103 (pause 0.98) 2875.6933 2526 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2875.6933 you work the keyboard here, you hit a button 2877.8900 2527 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2877.8900 (pause 0.30) 2878.1891 2528 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2878.1891 push it 2878.5003 2529 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2878.5003 (pause 0.20) 2878.7018 2530 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2878.7018 five 2879.2996 2531 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2879.2996 (pause 0.55) 2879.8508 2532 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2879.8508 thirty-nine 2880.6746 2533 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2880.6746 (pause 0.23) 2880.9065 2534 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2880.9065 four 2881.4923 2535 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2881.4923 (pause 0.55) 2882.0415 2536 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2882.0415 eight, 2882.4808 2537 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2882.4808 (pause 0.58) 2883.0605 2538 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2883.0605 so forth [and this goes] right on the 2884.4546 2539 DTA_int_01 2883.5141 [Uh.] 2883.8498 2540 DTA_se2_ag3_m_02 2884.7720 and this you should see it sometime. 2886.1327