Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_08 1.1118 Okay. 1.4511 2 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2.1326 /RD-NAME-5/. 3.5251 3 DTA_int_08 3.6779 Mm-hm. Count to ten out loud. 5.0287 4 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 5.8161 /RD-NAME-4/. 6.9298 5 DTA_int_08 7.2860 Count to ten. 8.0348 6 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 8.6449 One. 9.3354 7 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 9.3354 (pause 0.33) 9.6696 8 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 9.6696 Two. 10.0966 9 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 10.0966 (pause 0.56) 10.6528 10 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 10.6528 Three. 11.1112 11 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 11.1112 (pause 0.66) 11.7733 12 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 11.7733 Four. 12.2439 13 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 12.2439 (pause 0.66) 12.9076 14 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 12.9076 Five. 13.6314 15 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 13.6314 (pause 0.63) 14.2579 16 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 14.2579 Six. 14.9353 17 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 14.9353 (pause 0.55) 15.4884 18 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 15.4884 Seven. 16.1455 19 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 16.1455 (pause 0.83) 16.9706 20 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 16.9706 Eight. 17.4718 21 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 17.4718 (pause 0.57) 18.0453 22 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 18.0453 Nine. 18.6840 23 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 18.6840 (pause 0.49) 19.1699 24 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 19.1699 Ten. 19.6986 25 DTA_int_08 20.6480 To start with Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/, can I have you reminisce a little bit 23.8252 26 DTA_int_08 23.8252 (pause 0.26) 24.0850 27 DTA_int_08 24.0850 back when [you were-] 24.6013 28 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 24.4059 [Now,] you have to speak a little louder to me cause I [can't hear] too [well.] 27.8857 29 DTA_int_08 26.9078 [Okay.] 27.2011 30 DTA_int_08 27.2011 (pause 0.47) 27.6748 31 DTA_int_08 27.6748 [Fine.] 28.0841 32 DTA_int_08 28.3105 Okay. 28.6589 33 DTA_int_08 28.6589 (pause 0.51) 29.1692 34 DTA_int_08 29.1692 Uh, 29.4229 35 DTA_int_08 29.4229 (pause 0.21) 29.6358 36 DTA_int_08 29.6358 to start with can I have you think back when you were a little girl. 33.2256 37 DTA_int_08 33.2256 (pause 0.78) 34.0049 38 DTA_int_08 34.0049 What kind of games did you play? 35.6633 39 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 38.0745 Hide and s- 39.2623 40 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 39.2623 (pause 0.49) 39.7482 41 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 39.7482 see. 40.2463 42 DTA_int_08 40.7016 [Mm-hm.] 41.0714 43 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 40.7872 [S-] 41.0073 44 DTA_int_08 42.1920 What else? 42.7768 45 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 44.4443 We would run around the house and play in there. 47.0225 46 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 47.0225 (pause 1.36) 48.3784 47 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 48.3784 Uh, moonlight at night, 50.1173 48 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 50.1173 (pause 0.60) 50.7141 49 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 50.7141 it's at first night when the moon shine. 53.1264 50 DTA_int_08 53.2670 Mm-hm. 53.7300 51 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 56.5421 And, uh, 57.0728 52 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 57.0728 (pause 0.49) 57.5617 53 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 57.5617 we didn't have games to play like they do here. We didn't know nothing about many games some are 62.7947 54 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 62.7947 (pause 0.59) 63.3814 55 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 63.3814 playing. 64.2793 56 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 64.2793 (pause 0.11) 64.3921 57 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 64.3921 See, Sally Walker, like 66.3814 58 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 66.3814 (pause 0.14) 66.5251 59 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 66.5251 things [like] that going around. 68.2853 60 DTA_int_08 66.8581 [Mm-hm.] 67.1084 61 DTA_int_08 68.7122 Mm-hm. 68.9545 62 DTA_int_08 68.9545 (pause 0.39) 69.3417 63 DTA_int_08 69.3417 How do you play hide and seek? 70.8728 64 DTA_int_08 70.8728 (pause 1.26) 72.1278 65 DTA_int_08 72.1278 How- how do you [play?] 73.1729 66 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 73.1149 [We'd] play, uh- 74.2976 67 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 75.1278 we run around the trees and around the corner of the house, and- 79.2188 68 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 79.2188 (pause 0.63) 79.8514 69 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 79.8514 and count 80.5757 70 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 80.5757 (pause 0.52) 81.0972 71 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 81.0972 one, two, three, four, all here. 83.7886 72 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 83.7886 (pause 1.65) 85.4388 73 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 85.4388 And, um, 86.0745 74 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 86.0745 (pause 0.29) 86.3617 75 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 86.3617 let's see. 86.9750 76 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 86.9750 (pause 0.62) 87.5954 77 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 87.5954 Yeah, and they'd r- run. 89.0439 78 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 89.0439 (pause 0.41) 89.4504 79 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 89.4504 I almost done forgot just how to [do, but,] uh, we would run around the house, you know, and be at the corner house, one that count. 95.9994 80 DTA_int_08 91.5366 [] 92.0317 81 DTA_int_08 96.4639 Uh-huh. 96.6993 82 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 96.7115 And run, find the other one, you know, like they found where you at. 99.9739 83 DTA_int_08 100.4266 Mm-hm. 100.8184 84 DTA_int_08 100.8184 (pause 0.60) 101.4167 85 DTA_int_08 101.4167 How do you play Sally Walker? 103.1791 86 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 103.9522 We would go around and- 105.4731 87 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 105.4731 (pause 0.18) 105.6504 88 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 105.6504 and say 106.0996 89 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 106.0996 (pause 0.21) 106.3086 90 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 106.3086 see Sally Walker, sitting in the saucer, flies- 109.4734 91 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 109.4734 (pause 0.39) 109.8605 92 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 109.8605 s- s- fly, Sally fly. Ride, Sally, ride. 113.0164 93 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 113.0164 (pause 0.31) 113.3251 94 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 113.3251 Wipe your weeping eye. 114.5342 95 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 114.5342 (pause 0.69) 115.2218 96 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 115.2218 And, um, 115.7230 97 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 115.7230 (pause 0.13) 115.8514 98 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 115.8514 things like that, and we got a whooping by playing it one time. 118.9645 99 DTA_int_08 119.0103 Mm-hm. 119.3006 100 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 119.5634 120.1033 101 DTA_int_08 121.4144 122.0921 102 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 123.2164 [] 123.6438 103 DTA_int_08 123.5251 [Okay.] 124.0274 104 DTA_int_08 124.3960 Uh, did you ever play marbles? 126.2650 105 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 127.2921 Play what? 127.7597 106 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 127.7597 (pause 0.19) 127.9461 107 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 127.9461 [Mar-] 128.5451 108 DTA_int_08 128.0714 [Marbles?] 128.7230 109 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 129.3264 marble? 129.9498 110 DTA_int_08 130.0354 Yeah, you know. 130.6130 111 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 130.6130 Yeah. 131.1355 112 DTA_int_08 131.3617 Uh-huh. 131.5757 113 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 131.7733 We would try to play marble, shoot marble, knock one out of the ring. You know, 135.8582 114 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 135.8582 (pause 0.14) 136.0018 115 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 136.0018 [like] that. 136.5519 116 DTA_int_08 136.0018 [Mm-hm.] 136.2616 117 DTA_int_08 136.7352 Mm-hm. 136.9522 118 DTA_int_08 136.9522 (pause 0.50) 137.4554 119 DTA_int_08 137.4554 Did you have different names for the different marbles? 140.4840 120 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 141.1644 Do what with the marble? 142.0813 121 DTA_int_08 142.1913 Did you have different names for them? 144.1706 122 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 144.5923 No. 145.0874 123 DTA_int_08 145.0874 No? [Okay.] 145.6405 124 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 145.4999 [You] didn't do nothing but 146.6755 125 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 147.0697 just b- 147.6228 126 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 147.6228 (pause 0.11) 147.7298 127 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 147.7298 put 'em in the ring and shoot them, you know, 150.0361 128 DTA_int_08 150.1430 Mm-hm. 150.4242 129 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 150.4914 knock one out. 151.3317 130 DTA_int_08 151.6436 Mm-hm. 151.8932 131 DTA_int_08 151.8932 (pause 0.58) 152.4748 132 DTA_int_08 152.4748 Did you ever play jacks? 154.1118 133 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 154.8483 No, I never could learn. 156.3234 134 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 156.3234 (pause 0.11) 156.4303 135 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 156.4303 [I never] did learn how. 157.6680 136 DTA_int_08 156.4639 [Huh?] 156.7063 137 DTA_int_08 157.9431 Okay. 158.4504 138 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 158.8374 [Mm-hm.] 159.2531 139 DTA_int_08 159.2072 [And, um,] 159.8459 140 DTA_int_08 161.9536 uh. 162.3722 141 DTA_int_08 162.3722 (pause 0.85) 163.2249 142 DTA_int_08 163.2249 When you w- do you watch television? 165.0850 143 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 166.4908 When I was a little [girl?] 167.5543 144 DTA_int_08 167.4992 [Now.] 167.9658 145 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 168.3172 Oh, yeah. 169.1087 146 DTA_int_08 169.1882 Uh-huh. 169.4113 147 DTA_int_08 169.4113 (pause 0.24) 169.6558 148 DTA_int_08 169.6558 What is your favorite program? 171.2133 149 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 172.5488 Uh, Search for Tomorrow, and 174.6442 150 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 174.6442 (pause 0.17) 174.8093 151 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 174.8093 Love of Life, 176.1234 152 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 176.1234 (pause 1.14) 177.2653 153 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 177.2653 and Another World, 178.7291 154 DTA_int_08 179.1264 Uh-huh. 179.4602 155 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 179.6582 and As the World Turns. 181.2218 156 DTA_int_08 181.4296 Mm-hm 181.6444 157 DTA_int_08 181.6444 (pause 0.52) 182.1600 158 DTA_int_08 182.1600 Can you tell me what's happening now on Search for Tomorrow? 185.7823 159 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 186.3997 Say what? 186.7817 160 DTA_int_08 187.0140 What's happening 187.9058 161 DTA_int_08 187.9058 (pause 0.35) 188.2517 162 DTA_int_08 188.2517 on Search for Tomorrow? 189.5881 163 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 191.3587 Well, um, Search for Tomorrow is 193.9033 164 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 193.9033 (pause 1.15) 195.0544 165 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 195.0544 Joanne's daughter getting married, you know, that's what I'm real interested in. 199.6160 166 DTA_int_08 199.7841 Mm-hm. 200.1386 167 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 200.1784 And, um, 200.8344 168 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 200.8344 (pause 0.51) 201.3447 169 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 201.3447 she's getting married to- 202.9643 170 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 202.9643 (pause 0.22) 203.1845 171 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 203.1845 she was getting married to, uh, I done forgot the man name she was getting married to, now. But 208.3013 172 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 208.3013 (pause 0.94) 209.2441 173 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 209.2441 he had a /rake/ with him and they caught him, so he done disappeared out of the picture. And, uh- and my television got broken and I didn't, um, quite 216.5342 174 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 216.5342 (pause 0.58) 217.1118 175 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 217.1118 keep up with all, 218.6062 176 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 218.6062 (pause 0.20) 218.8099 177 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 218.8099 you know, the program. But, uh- 221.0093 178 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 221.0093 (pause 0.63) 221.6429 179 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 221.6429 uh, now she's 222.9559 180 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 222.9559 (pause 0.12) 223.0721 181 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 223.0721 fixing to get married to a- 224.6732 182 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 224.6732 (pause 0.49) 225.1650 183 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 225.1650 another a doctor, 226.3593 184 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 226.3593 (pause 0.24) 226.6038 185 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 226.6038 each one was a doctor [so] this doctor she's gonna get 229.6008 186 DTA_int_08 227.9566 [Mm-hm.] 228.2469 187 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 230.2486 married to. Now she's falling out with him, saying he's- you know, too much of a mother child, you know. 236.3036 188 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 236.3036 (pause 0.52) 236.8283 189 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 236.8283 And that's why she never wanted to 238.2004 190 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 238.2004 (pause 0.36) 238.5580 191 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 238.5580 marry him. 239.3984 192 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 239.3984 (pause 0.45) 239.8435 193 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 239.8435 So something coming up, 240.9009 194 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 240.9009 (pause 0.17) 241.0750 195 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 241.0750 being not on television, without it fixed then I can't (laughing) 243.8581 196 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 243.8581 (pause 0.50) 244.3624 197 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 244.3624 keep up with how it's going. I'm 246.1247 198 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 246.1247 (pause 0.14) 246.2622 199 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 246.2622 very sorry. 247.2524 200 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 247.2524 (pause 0.50) 247.7566 201 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 247.7566 And I likes to see, um, 249.2714 202 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 249.2714 (pause 0.75) 250.0262 203 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 250.0262 250.1790 204 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 250.1790 (pause 0.47) 250.6497 205 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 250.6497 Another World. 251.7244 206 DTA_int_08 252.0055 [Mm-hm.] 252.2580 207 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 252.1491 [And] here some 253.0537 208 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 253.2218 interest to me. 254.2342 209 DTA_int_08 254.4748 Mm-hm. 254.8594 210 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 254.9383 Um, this girl, uh, 256.5366 211 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 256.5366 (pause 0.17) 256.7035 212 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 256.7035 she was gonna marry the woman's daughter, you know, 259.9430 213 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 259.9430 (pause 0.45) 260.3953 214 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 260.3953 and, uh, sh- 261.0544 215 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 261.0544 (pause 0.36) 261.4181 216 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 261.4181 she didn't want him to marry 'em because, uh, 263.7366 217 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 263.7366 (pause 0.62) 264.3539 218 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 264.3539 she had a will give to her this g- 266.5502 219 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 266.5502 (pause 0.20) 266.7519 220 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 266.7519 m- 266.8710 221 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 266.8710 (pause 0.12) 266.9902 222 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 266.9902 girl was gonna marry her son. 268.7230 223 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 268.7230 (pause 0.52) 269.2395 224 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 269.2395 She had a will, um, 271.0293 225 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 271.0293 (pause 0.23) 271.2554 226 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 271.2554 m- uh, the woman 272.2452 227 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 272.2452 (pause 0.42) 272.6663 228 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 272.6663 made a will to her when she- 274.7199 229 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 274.7199 (pause 0.42) 275.1447 230 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 275.1447 and told- and, um, 276.3783 231 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 276.3783 (pause 0.18) 276.5617 232 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 276.5617 had her- 277.2554 233 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 277.2554 (pause 0.44) 277.6955 234 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 277.6955 told her and the boy 279.3692 235 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 279.3692 (pause 0.49) 279.8551 236 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 279.8551 that that they would um 281.1539 237 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 281.1539 (pause 0.67) 281.8283 238 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 281.8283 uh, she wanted them to get married right away. 284.7488 239 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 284.7488 (pause 0.53) 285.2836 240 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 285.2836 And he was wondering why that she hadn't been liking him, you know, and then all at once she saying she want him to get married to her. 292.5602 241 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 292.5602 (pause 0.53) 293.0918 242 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 293.0918 And he was wondering why, but still he was in love with her and he was getting- 297.2989 243 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 297.2989 (pause 0.46) 297.7603 244 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 297.7603 ready to get married. But, uh, his mother didn't want her to marry 301.2126 245 DTA_int_08 301.4479 Mm-hm. 301.7788 246 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 301.8177 him, and so 302.6541 247 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 302.6541 (pause 0.13) 302.7885 248 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 302.7885 she brought up something 304.4602 249 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 304.4602 (pause 0.53) 304.9889 250 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 304.9889 and, uh, 305.4534 251 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 305.4534 (pause 0.13) 305.5848 252 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 305.5848 she claimed this woman who had made the will was the girl's own mother. 310.2829 253 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 310.2829 (pause 0.75) 311.0286 254 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 311.0286 She believed that it was her real mother. 313.6649 255 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 313.6649 (pause 0.57) 314.2364 256 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 314.2364 But, uh, this girl didn't know where her father and mother were. 317.5634 257 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 317.5634 (pause 0.45) 318.0177 258 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 318.0177 And she felt very bad, oh, with you know, 320.4931 259 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 320.4931 (pause 0.45) 320.9383 260 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 320.9383 being raised up in the world and didn't have- 323.1080 261 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 323.1080 (pause 0.15) 323.2583 262 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 323.2583 didn't know where her mother- 324.3447 263 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 324.3447 (pause 0.26) 324.6075 264 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 324.6075 parents were that gave her away. 326.0867 265 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 326.0867 (pause 0.53) 326.6153 266 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 326.6153 And she wanted to say that her mother 328.5673 267 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 328.5673 (pause 0.57) 329.1386 268 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 329.1386 was dead. 329.8344 269 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 329.8344 (pause 0.17) 330.0024 270 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 330.0024 She didn't want her 330.9804 271 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 330.9804 (pause 0.13) 331.1148 272 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 331.1148 to be alive, had done gave her away. 333.4005 273 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 333.4005 (pause 0.38) 333.7787 274 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 333.7787 You know, [would] live in the world and she be in the world and not come 337.1240 275 DTA_int_08 334.3776 [Mm-hm.] 334.6548 276 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 337.5702 where she was. She just 338.9138 277 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 338.9138 (pause 0.36) 339.2744 278 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 339.2744 would pick up pictures or get pictures out there, 341.7824 279 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 341.7824 (pause 0.64) 342.4272 280 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 342.4272 um, 342.9437 281 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 342.9437 (pause 0.52) 343.4663 282 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 343.4663 you know, pictures you go to the 345.2194 283 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 345.2194 (pause 0.54) 345.7573 284 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 345.7573 store and buy pictures. And 347.3586 285 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 347.3586 (pause 0.26) 347.6153 286 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 347.6153 tell people that was her mother. 349.1515 287 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 349.1515 (pause 0.48) 349.6282 288 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 349.6282 That she was dead, you know, well she didn't w- felt so bad though, she didn't wanna be living. 354.3875 289 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 354.3875 (pause 0.57) 354.9620 290 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 354.9620 And, uh, her mother be l- uh, alive in the world and didn't come where she was. So this woman made her aware, you know. 361.3685 291 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 361.3685 (pause 0.63) 362.0011 292 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 362.0011 And 362.4748 293 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 362.4748 (pause 0.17) 362.6479 294 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 362.6479 her mother 363.5361 295 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 363.5361 (pause 0.64) 364.1790 296 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 364.1790 a- she was adopted. She thought she was, you know, this h- m- uh- s- she said, um, 368.9933 297 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 368.9933 (pause 0.13) 369.1247 298 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 369.1247 she thought she was a- 370.3929 299 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 370.3929 (pause 0.58) 370.9688 300 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 370.9688 371.0244 301 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 371.0244 (pause 0.12) 371.1417 302 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 371.1417 adopted. 371.8771 303 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 371.8771 (pause 0.84) 372.7206 304 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 372.7206 And this woman knows she was adopted, which made her aware. But the girl, 376.9736 305 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 376.9736 (pause 0.61) 377.5848 306 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 377.5848 uh, she always wanted to say she was dead. She didn't want 380.8466 307 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 380.8466 (pause 0.17) 381.0208 308 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 381.0208 folks to think that she was adopted [when she was] a baby. 383.8649 309 DTA_int_08 382.8456 [Mm-hm.] 383.2996 310 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 384.7909 And so 385.4204 311 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 385.4204 (pause 0.28) 385.7046 312 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 385.7046 her mother 386.5159 313 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 386.5159 (pause 1.18) 387.6961 314 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 387.6961 n- living- was her- the man what was gonna marry her mother. 391.5304 315 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 391.5304 (pause 0.54) 392.0688 316 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 392.0688 Didn't want her 392.8496 317 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 392.8496 (pause 0.57) 393.4180 318 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 393.4180 to h- h- her son to marry her. 395.6617 319 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 395.6617 (pause 0.42) 396.0819 320 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 396.0819 That she wasn't a 396.9926 321 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 396.9926 (pause 0.11) 397.1026 322 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 397.1026 type of- good enough girl for him, you know. 399.5861 323 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 399.5861 (pause 0.63) 400.2187 324 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 400.2187 And she brought- got her 401.5532 325 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 401.5532 (pause 0.12) 401.6693 326 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 401.6693 papers and thing, went to a lawyer, and got it all fixed up 405.1349 327 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 405.1349 (pause 0.46) 405.5983 328 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 405.5983 to 406.0292 329 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 406.0292 (pause 0.17) 406.1943 330 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 406.1943 break the m- wedding up, you know. And so, just- she would get her in a room 410.5878 331 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 410.5878 (pause 0.65) 411.2347 332 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 411.2347 and talk mean to her, you know, and then when the boy 414.3355 333 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 414.3355 (pause 0.51) 414.8489 334 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 414.8489 would come in, she would 415.9766 335 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 415.9766 (pause 0.39) 416.3617 336 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 416.3617 get all the papers away. Then he didn't know, this was all undercover to him. 420.7848 337 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 420.7848 (pause 0.90) 421.6893 338 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 421.6893 And so one day she talked to her so mean and told her 424.4510 339 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 424.4510 (pause 0.53) 424.9766 340 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 424.9766 the wedding day was the next day. 426.6564 341 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 426.6564 (pause 0.34) 426.9926 342 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 426.9926 And told her she wasn't- he wasn't gonna marry her cause he had done found out that she was a- 431.1997 343 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 431.1997 (pause 0.47) 431.6673 344 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 431.6673 uh, 432.0544 345 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 432.0544 (pause 0.75) 432.8062 346 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 432.8062 wasn't adopted, she was just- uh, this was her real mother. 436.5824 347 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 436.5824 (pause 0.87) 437.4534 348 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 437.4534 And she said Missy- McKa- Corning was the lady's name. 441.1094 349 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 441.1094 (pause 0.72) 441.8275 350 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 441.8275 And she said, uh, Ms. /McCorning/, uh, 443.9596 351 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 443.9596 (pause 0.48) 444.4394 352 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 444.4394 uh, made me the will and, uh, 446.0744 353 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 446.0744 (pause 0.24) 446.3189 354 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 446.3189 she was real nice to me as a real mother. 448.8238 355 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 448.8238 (pause 1.02) 449.8435 356 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 449.8435 And, uh, 450.2977 357 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 450.2977 (pause 1.06) 451.3532 358 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 451.3532 she told her 452.3158 359 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 452.3158 (pause 0.40) 452.7182 360 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 452.7182 then that, uh, 453.4883 361 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 453.4883 (pause 0.70) 454.1912 362 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 454.1912 he's not gonna marry you. And she just got 456.4547 363 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 456.4547 (pause 0.20) 456.6533 364 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 456.6533 hm- m- uh- oh- so upset that she just tore up her gown and tore up her 461.0866 365 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 461.0866 (pause 0.42) 461.5084 366 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 461.5084 veil and just run out. Ran out, you know, ran out the house. 465.0819 367 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 465.0819 (pause 0.56) 465.6411 368 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 465.6411 And ran away, and after she run away, uh, 468.6381 369 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 468.6381 (pause 0.84) 469.4813 370 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 469.4813 her son was all upset, you know, they gonna get married the n- next day. And so 474.5464 371 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 474.5464 (pause 0.56) 475.1056 372 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 475.1056 they was looking her- and in the picture now they're still, uh, 478.0868 373 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 478.0868 (pause 0.35) 478.4326 374 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 478.4326 they haven't found her, last time I looked at t- uh, [television.] 481.7821 375 DTA_int_08 481.7016 [Mm-hm.] 482.0591 376 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 482.1569 A man that found her while she was, uh, 484.5518 377 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 484.5518 (pause 0.61) 485.1600 378 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 485.1600 had went on a /plan/- she had a lot of money. 487.6404 379 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 487.6404 (pause 1.66) 489.3019 380 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 489.3019 And she had a- um, 490.4418 381 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 490.4418 (pause 0.32) 490.7627 382 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 490.7627 a ring worth a lot of money. 492.6747 383 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 492.6747 (pause 0.52) 493.1943 384 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 493.1943 And this man what found her and taken to- taken her to a room, he, uh, 496.9827 385 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 496.9827 (pause 0.64) 497.6214 386 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 497.6214 um, 498.0612 387 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 498.0612 (pause 0.28) 498.3386 388 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 498.3386 she gave him that ring, and he pawn it. 500.7121 389 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 500.7121 (pause 0.74) 501.4486 390 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 501.4486 And, uh- so, um, 502.8269 391 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 502.8269 (pause 0.62) 503.4503 392 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 503.4503 he still got her in the room k- 505.4112 393 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 505.4112 (pause 0.46) 505.8758 394 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 505.8758 and found one that nobody, 507.3905 395 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 507.3905 (pause 0.43) 507.8214 396 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 507.8214 you know, know where she at. 509.0530 397 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 509.0530 (pause 0.58) 509.6367 398 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 509.6367 And this, u- 510.2561 399 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 510.2561 (pause 0.12) 510.3752 400 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 510.3752 uh, boy is still looking for her. 512.7304 401 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 512.7304 (pause 0.49) 513.2194 402 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 513.2194 Uh, last time that, uh, 514.6282 403 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 514.6282 (pause 0.17) 514.7994 404 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 514.7994 I- I saw it in the picture. 516.4523 405 DTA_int_08 517.0415 Mm-hm. 517.4463 406 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 517.7107 And so, I- I'd just love to see that it's so- so good. I want to find out 522.5695 407 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 522.5695 (pause 0.53) 523.1026 408 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 523.1026 what's a- um, 523.8574 409 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 523.8574 (pause 0.46) 524.3219 410 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 524.3219 gonna be done about it, you know, if he find- 526.9797 411 DTA_int_08 527.5226 [Yeah.] 527.9474 412 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 527.5318 [if he] finds this girl. 529.2493 413 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 530.2608 And, um, 530.8649 414 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 530.8649 (pause 0.73) 531.5953 415 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 531.5953 the way this man 532.7602 416 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 532.7602 (pause 0.18) 532.9399 417 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 532.9399 talk, he wants to get her money. He done found out he got a lot of money for that ring he pawned. 537.9681 418 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 537.9681 (pause 0.68) 538.6496 419 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 538.6496 And he telling her- now he already got a girlfriend. 541.6832 420 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 541.6832 (pause 0.61) 542.2944 421 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 542.2944 And he's 542.9382 422 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 542.9382 (pause 0.55) 543.4883 423 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 543.4883 telling this girl that he's gonna marry her and they gonna live loving together, but he don't mean that. 548.4992 424 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 548.4992 (pause 0.19) 548.6937 425 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 548.6937 Sh- you know, he just 549.6075 426 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 549.6075 (pause 0.52) 550.1301 427 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 550.1301 telling her that 550.9216 428 DTA_int_08 551.1202 Mm-hm. 551.4717 429 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 551.5206 thinking she'd gave her- 552.9650 430 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 552.9650 (pause 0.34) 553.3012 431 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 553.3012 him his- her money, you know. 555.0238 432 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 555.0238 (pause 0.86) 555.8886 433 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 555.8886 And so, um, 557.0713 434 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 557.0713 (pause 0.45) 557.5175 435 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 557.5175 after 558.1246 436 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 558.1246 (pause 1.08) 559.2095 437 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 559.2095 this all happened and sh- he still got her 561.9223 438 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 561.9223 (pause 0.28) 562.2001 439 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 562.2001 /?/ find, and she said 563.4992 440 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 563.4992 (pause 0.55) 564.0452 441 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 564.0452 she didn't- don't- l- any- n- she's not in love with him. 567.2102 442 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 567.2102 (pause 1.22) 568.4326 443 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 568.4326 And, uh, 568.9841 444 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 568.9841 (pause 0.63) 569.6168 445 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 569.6168 she say she don't see why he want to marry her. He said, well I wants to marry you so we can live happy /todeth/- together. 576.2503 446 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 576.2503 (pause 0.98) 577.2340 447 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 577.2340 You know, but he don't even mean it, you know, he just 579.9681 448 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 579.9681 (pause 0.33) 580.2982 449 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 580.2982 telling her all of this. 581.5328 450 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 581.5328 (pause 0.54) 582.0732 451 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 582.0732 That's a real interesting picture, too. 583.9369 452 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 583.9369 (pause 1.16) 585.1002 453 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 585.1002 And, uh, 585.6197 454 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 585.6197 (pause 0.13) 585.7481 455 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 585.7481 As, um, 586.7364 456 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 586.7364 (pause 2.56) 589.2981 457 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 589.2981 uh, As the World Turns 591.3599 458 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 591.3599 (pause 0.19) 591.5464 459 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 591.5464 that's real good 592.8330 460 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 592.8330 (pause 0.85) 593.6846 461 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 593.6846 too. Um, 594.6840 462 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 594.6840 (pause 1.39) 596.0774 463 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 596.0774 this 596.5236 464 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 596.5236 (pause 0.60) 597.1277 465 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 597.1277 Ellen 597.6411 466 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 597.6411 (pause 0.61) 598.2554 467 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 598.2554 she done went to prison in there and then she got a 601.7199 468 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 601.7199 (pause 1.00) 602.7212 469 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 602.7212 out of prison. And she's gonna marry 605.4167 470 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 605.4167 (pause 0.17) 605.5878 471 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 605.5878 a doctor, too. And she had already done married him. 608.7182 472 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 608.7182 (pause 0.54) 609.2560 473 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 609.2560 But her son, she killed a- 611.2027 474 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 611.2027 (pause 0.24) 611.4472 475 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 611.4472 a woman cause she was gonna tell 613.2737 476 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 613.2737 (pause 0.39) 613.6618 477 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 613.6618 that her son was adopted to him- uh, 615.9533 478 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 615.9533 (pause 0.61) 616.5671 479 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 616.5671 to him, you know, when 617.9504 480 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 617.9504 (pause 0.36) 618.3141 481 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 618.3141 he was a baby. 619.2920 482 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 619.2920 (pause 0.57) 619.8666 483 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 619.8666 Well the woman what she killed was, uh, 622.7688 484 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 622.7688 (pause 0.46) 623.2333 485 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 623.2333 just raising him up there as a doctor's maid, you know, there in the house was 627.7297 486 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 627.7297 (pause 0.32) 628.0506 487 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 628.0506 raise him up. 628.9949 488 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 628.9949 (pause 0.59) 629.5878 489 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 629.5878 And so she, uh- 630.8703 490 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 630.8703 (pause 0.99) 631.8605 491 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 631.8605 um, 632.3873 492 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 632.3873 (pause 1.31) 633.7022 493 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 633.7022 after th- she raised him up, and this woman she told her one day, she wanted her to- 638.8985 494 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 638.8985 (pause 0.17) 639.0727 495 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 639.0727 to leave there. Ellen Cole 641.0683 496 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 641.0683 (pause 0.53) 641.5970 497 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 641.5970 told her 642.3080 498 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 642.3080 (pause 0.12) 642.4272 499 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 642.4272 this maid- I just remember her name now, 644.8649 500 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 644.8649 (pause 0.44) 645.3049 501 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 645.3049 that, uh, 645.8275 502 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 645.8275 (pause 0.17) 645.9956 503 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 645.9956 she wanted her to leave the house. 647.7610 504 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 647.7610 (pause 0.82) 648.5800 505 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 648.5800 And she said she wasn't gonna leave. And she said, yeah you gonna leave today. 652.9185 506 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 652.9185 (pause 0.90) 653.8190 507 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 653.8190 Told her 654.3019 508 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 654.3019 (pause 0.50) 654.7969 509 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 654.7969 uh, 655.2584 510 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 655.2584 (pause 0.27) 655.5304 511 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 655.5304 the maid. And she said, no. 657.0513 512 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 657.0513 (pause 0.61) 657.6625 513 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 657.6625 Said, um, 658.4364 514 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 658.4364 (pause 0.23) 658.6679 515 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 658.6679 she was gonna stay there and, uh, she was gonna 661.4859 516 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 661.4859 (pause 0.43) 661.9155 517 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 661.9155 call her son 663.2377 518 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 663.2377 (pause 0.51) 663.7480 519 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 663.7480 and tell her that she was his real mother. That's why she wanted to marry that doctor so she would be there with her son. And- 670.4998 520 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 670.4998 (pause 0.65) 671.1508 521 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 671.1508 and she said, no you's not gonna 673.2584 522 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 673.2584 (pause 0.41) 673.6710 523 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 673.6710 call and tell him that I'm his real mother. 676.5059 524 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 676.5059 (pause 0.81) 677.3188 525 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 677.3188 And she said, yes I am. 679.0842 526 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 679.0842 (pause 0.46) 679.5426 527 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 679.5426 And when she said yes, 680.8343 528 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 680.8343 (pause 0.54) 681.3712 529 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 681.3712 she was gonna tell him, you know, call him and tell him, 683.9871 530 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 683.9871 (pause 0.56) 684.5463 531 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 684.5463 Ellen Cole picked up a- 686.1263 532 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 686.1263 (pause 0.51) 686.6343 533 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 686.6343 a stack of something on the, 688.2798 534 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 688.2798 (pause 0.83) 689.1080 535 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 689.1080 um, table or something, and threw it at her. And- 692.1080 536 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 692.1080 (pause 0.27) 692.3739 537 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 692.3739 and that killed her. 693.3141 538 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 693.3141 (pause 0.35) 693.6655 539 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 693.6655 You know, and so 694.5273 540 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 694.5273 (pause 0.56) 695.0866 541 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 695.0866 after then she went to prison. And this boy w- never could forgive Ellen for that. He hated her for that, but he didn't know that she was his real mother. 702.7480 542 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 702.7480 (pause 0.43) 703.1823 543 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 703.1823 And she was, but Ellen didn't want her to know 705.7205 544 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 705.7205 (pause 0.93) 706.6496 545 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 706.6496 that she was. 707.8195 546 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 707.8195 (pause 0.45) 708.2652 547 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 708.2652 And so she killed this woman, so she went to the pen. And so she got 712.0384 548 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 712.0384 (pause 1.02) 713.0621 549 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 713.0621 pardoned, she d- you know, she didn't stay her time out, but 716.1019 550 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 716.1019 (pause 0.77) 716.8740 551 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 716.8740 she got pardoned out the pen. 718.8482 552 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 718.8482 (pause 0.20) 719.0469 553 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 719.0469 And another girl was in there 720.7633 554 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 720.7633 (pause 0.81) 721.5685 555 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 721.5685 was gonna 722.1202 556 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 722.1202 (pause 0.35) 722.4686 557 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 722.4686 have a baby 723.6572 558 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 723.6572 (pause 0.25) 723.9070 559 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 723.9070 in, uh- 724.6465 560 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 724.6465 (pause 0.92) 725.5633 561 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 725.5633 in there. 726.3586 562 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 726.3586 (pause 1.50) 727.8635 563 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 727.8635 Uh, 728.3769 564 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 728.3769 (pause 0.45) 728.8221 565 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 728.8221 728.9810 566 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 728.9810 (pause 0.61) 729.5922 567 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 729.5922 /pentin/- 730.0078 568 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 730.0078 (pause 0.56) 730.5701 569 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 730.5701 in the pen where she was. 732.0421 570 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 732.0421 (pause 0.66) 732.6991 571 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 732.6991 And so she got in /there/ and they got to be real friends. 736.3042 572 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 736.3042 (pause 0.62) 736.9246 573 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 736.9246 And, uh, when this girl baby was born 739.2064 574 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 739.2064 (pause 0.66) 739.8665 575 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 739.8665 she was his, 740.5501 576 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 740.5501 (pause 0.46) 741.0146 577 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 741.0146 uh, got her to let her be the baby's Godmother. And they met and had a, 744.9161 578 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 744.9161 (pause 0.54) 745.4601 579 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 745.4601 uh, they- uh, a priest, you know, and everything and made her 748.6740 580 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 748.6740 (pause 0.12) 748.7932 581 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 748.7932 the baby's 749.4502 582 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 749.4502 (pause 0.28) 749.7334 583 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 749.7334 Godmother, you know. 750.8436 584 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 750.8436 (pause 1.76) 752.6000 585 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 752.6000 And, uh, that's real interesting too. I like it 755.5266 586 DTA_int_08 756.7575 [Mm-hm.] 757.0200 587 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 756.8489 [too.] 757.1728 588 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 758.7395 Yeah it's really 759.6258 589 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 759.6258 (pause 0.15) 759.7755 590 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 759.7755 good. 760.2064 591 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 760.2064 (pause 2.20) 762.4027 592 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 762.4027 I r- really love 763.6465 593 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 763.6465 (pause 0.16) 763.8032 594 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 763.8032 television. 764.7059 595 DTA_int_08 764.8618 Mm-hm. 765.3966 596 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 765.5372 Hm. 765.6991 597 DTA_int_08 766.4265 Mm-hm. 766.6404 598 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 767.3158 [I was] raised in the country, I didn't know- 769.2828 599 DTA_int_08 767.3158 [Do you.] 767.5219 600 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 769.7198 know too much about different things was going on. 772.6037 601 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 772.6037 (pause 0.98) 773.5816 602 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 773.5816 I g- I tell my daughter I was so dumb. 776.7334 603 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 776.7334 (pause 0.39) 777.1277 604 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 777.1277 The coming up here, you know, and not, uh, know, um, 780.1613 605 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 780.1613 (pause 1.62) 781.7779 606 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 781.7779 /closer/ I- I lived in- 783.6227 607 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 783.6227 (pause 0.52) 784.1453 608 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 784.1453 in the city, 785.0886 609 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 785.0886 (pause 0.69) 785.7823 610 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 785.7823 uh, 786.1949 611 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 786.1949 (pause 0.09) 786.2896 612 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 786.2896 in- in Birmingham, Alabama. 788.2088 613 DTA_int_08 788.2913 Mm-hm. 788.5006 614 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 788.5083 You know, not in Birmingham but in Bessemer, Alabama. All my children 792.4180 615 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 792.4180 (pause 0.82) 793.2339 616 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 793.2339 except 793.8913 617 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 793.8913 (pause 0.36) 794.2516 618 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 794.2516 two was born in Bessemer, Alabama. 796.4662 619 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 796.4662 (pause 0.22) 796.6862 620 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 796.6862 But I married 797.8771 621 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 797.8771 (pause 0.58) 798.4577 622 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 798.4577 and went to Laurel, Mississippi and stayed there two year. 801.4944 623 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 801.4944 (pause 0.28) 801.7755 624 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 801.7755 And I came- 802.4489 625 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 802.4489 (pause 0.79) 803.2394 626 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 803.2394 came back, um, 804.6006 627 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 804.6006 (pause 1.46) 806.0652 628 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 806.0652 to Bessemer, Alabama. 807.3813 629 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 807.3813 (pause 0.44) 807.8183 630 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 807.8183 And that's where all my children was born, except 810.2407 631 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 810.2407 (pause 0.36) 810.6044 632 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 810.6044 the two that was in- 811.5884 633 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 811.5884 (pause 0.68) 812.2720 634 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 812.2720 the old and the oldest, they was born in Laurel, Mississippi. 815.3922 635 DTA_int_08 815.4981 Mm-hm. 815.8391 636 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 815.9229 Mm-hm. 816.3996 637 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 816.3996 (pause 0.97) 817.3684 638 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 817.3684 And so 818.0743 639 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 818.0743 (pause 1.57) 819.6472 640 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 819.6472 I married and I had never 821.2760 641 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 821.2760 (pause 0.52) 821.7976 642 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 821.7976 been 822.3049 643 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 822.3049 (pause 0.13) 822.4363 644 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 822.4363 nowhere but with my mother and father. 824.7640 645 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 824.7640 (pause 0.77) 825.5341 646 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 825.5341 They didn't let me go, 826.6190 647 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 826.6190 (pause 0.90) 827.5175 648 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 827.5175 I didn't know no kind of- 829.1209 649 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 829.1209 (pause 0.90) 830.0254 650 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 830.0254 of 830.6376 651 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 830.6376 (pause 0.72) 831.3599 652 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 831.3599 dance, or party, or nothing about nothing like that. 834.4210 653 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 834.4210 (pause 0.86) 835.2828 654 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 835.2828 And I was twenty-two years old 837.2071 655 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 837.2071 (pause 0.35) 837.5616 656 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 837.5616 when my daughter 838.4478 657 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 838.4478 (pause 0.90) 839.3494 658 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 839.3494 that I- was here. 840.4210 659 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 840.4210 (pause 0.67) 841.0921 660 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 841.0921 /Come save me and I/ was born. 842.6061 661 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 842.6061 (pause 1.21) 843.8135 662 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 843.8135 And so, you know, 845.5637 663 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 845.5637 (pause 0.42) 845.9871 664 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 845.9871 I was kind of dumb. Not 847.8696 665 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 847.8696 (pause 1.01) 848.8801 666 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 848.8801 know nothing, you know, know about, th- like 851.5256 667 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 851.5256 (pause 0.16) 851.6876 668 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 851.6876 parties and- 852.6808 669 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 852.6808 (pause 0.20) 852.8794 670 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 852.8794 like girls 853.8023 671 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 853.8023 (pause 0.55) 854.3524 672 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 854.3524 do now. They go out, 855.7175 673 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 855.7175 (pause 0.27) 855.9833 674 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 855.9833 I couldn't go out with my 857.0094 675 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 857.0094 (pause 0.40) 857.4105 676 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 857.4105 boyfriend, if I got to 858.8122 677 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 858.8122 (pause 0.73) 859.5395 678 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 859.5395 have a boyfriend. About- I was about, uh, 862.0200 679 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 862.0200 (pause 0.67) 862.6923 680 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 862.6923 fifteen years old. 863.9779 681 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 863.9779 (pause 0.83) 864.8061 682 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 864.8061 Well 865.1422 683 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 865.1422 (pause 0.33) 865.4685 684 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 865.4685 he couldn't take me to church or nowhere. 867.4509 685 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 867.4509 (pause 0.53) 867.9769 686 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 867.9769 Unless mama went. 868.9957 687 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 868.9957 (pause 0.74) 869.7388 688 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 869.7388 Or pops. 871.3739 689 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 871.3739 (pause 0.56) 871.9388 690 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 871.9388 I didn't have no brothers, that's why 873.9464 691 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 873.9464 (pause 0.14) 874.0868 692 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 874.0868 they said that they wouldn't let me go, because I didn't have no brothers to go with. 877.7067 693 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 877.7067 (pause 0.13) 877.8380 694 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 877.8380 Just 878.1006 695 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 878.1006 (pause 0.73) 878.8335 696 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 878.8335 the four girls raised up. 880.5082 697 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 880.5082 (pause 2.05) 882.5541 698 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 882.5541 And so I was born in 884.1159 699 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 884.1159 (pause 1.05) 885.1663 700 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 885.1663 year nineteen o 886.4716 701 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 886.4716 (pause 1.01) 887.4793 702 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 887.4793 three. 887.8856 703 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 887.8856 (pause 1.80) 889.6823 704 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 889.6823 And I'm a old lady now. 891.3007 705 DTA_int_08 892.4319 [No.] 892.7889 706 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 892.7342 [And] I can't get no proof of my age or something. I don't know how I'm n- 896.8854 707 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 897.0655 I, uh, I don't know. 898.0929 708 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 898.0929 (pause 0.46) 898.5571 709 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 898.5571 Try, /you guess about/, uh- 899.8121 710 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 899.8121 (pause 0.10) 899.9159 711 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 899.9159 it was to go, um, 901.2548 712 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 901.2548 (pause 1.07) 902.3205 713 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 902.3205 to Livingston, Alabama where I got my marriage certificate. 905.4334 714 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 905.4334 (pause 0.99) 906.4258 715 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 906.4258 And, uh, 906.9983 716 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 906.9983 (pause 0.31) 907.3078 717 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 907.3078 I could get my school record there. 909.3222 718 DTA_int_08 910.0838 Yeah. 910.4685 719 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 910.8922 But I reckon if I write there it would help me. 913.2884 720 DTA_int_08 914.0517 I think so. 914.8732 721 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 915.7357 Well. 916.0380 722 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 916.0380 (pause 0.64) 916.6731 723 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 916.6731 Well I'm'a try that to- when my daughter come to see me and might get her to write, because she know how to ten- go by it. 922.8358 724 DTA_int_08 923.2105 Mm-hm. 923.5250 725 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 923.9525 To find this, you know, 925.3769 726 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 925.3769 (pause 0.31) 925.6853 727 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 925.6853 and what to write to. 926.9648 728 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 926.9648 (pause 0.63) 927.5938 729 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 927.5938 And see, cause I get my school record from the Board of Education, that would not even help me. 932.2105 730 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 932.2105 (pause 0.34) 932.5495 731 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 932.5495 I don't know how come that, uh, 934.5204 732 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 934.5204 (pause 1.13) 935.6472 733 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 935.6472 I didn't- 936.2365 734 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 936.2365 (pause 0.99) 937.2303 735 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 937.2303 can't find- they say they can't find my place of birth. Mm, I was sent to /Central/ 941.4731 736 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 941.4731 (pause 0.90) 942.3709 737 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 942.3709 um, /Pittsboro Council/ and they said they couldn't find my place of birth. 946.0441 738 DTA_int_08 946.2334 Hm. 946.4227 739 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 946.7617 And I don't know why my daddy- 948.6563 740 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 948.6563 (pause 0.56) 949.2151 741 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 949.2151 we were raised on the farm. 950.8797 742 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 950.8797 (pause 0.90) 951.7754 743 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 951.7754 And he never ever did let us have a birthday party. Nothing about no birthday 956.3601 744 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 956.3601 (pause 0.65) 957.0075 745 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 957.0075 parties or, 958.0582 746 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 958.0582 (pause 0.72) 958.7800 747 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 958.7800 you know. 959.2624 748 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 959.2624 (pause 0.42) 959.6855 749 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 959.6855 Sometime mama'd bake us a cake and say it's your birthday. 962.4850 750 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 962.4850 (pause 0.60) 963.0899 751 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 963.0899 But that's all we knowed about, n- but then 965.4945 752 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 965.4945 (pause 0.26) 965.7541 753 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 965.7541 place like I- I can't even get it correct, uh, 968.5143 754 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 968.5143 (pause 0.98) 969.4961 755 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 969.4961 address, where they was getting their mail. If I could, I said, if I was able to go home 974.3724 756 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 974.3724 (pause 0.80) 975.1724 757 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 975.1724 down- down in Alabama- Cuba, Alabama, 977.9464 758 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 977.9464 (pause 0.66) 978.6029 759 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 978.6029 those white people who are popping r- uh, raised us on this- 981.9784 760 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 981.9784 (pause 0.27) 982.2502 761 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 982.2502 the place, you know. 983.4634 762 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 983.4634 (pause 0.80) 984.2625 763 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 984.2625 Um, 984.6822 764 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 984.6822 (pause 0.70) 985.3815 765 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 985.3815 985.4792 766 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 985.4792 (pause 0.25) 985.7265 767 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 985.7265 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, 987.0090 768 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 987.0090 (pause 0.50) 987.5082 769 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 987.5082 uh, 987.8776 770 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 987.8776 (pause 0.45) 988.3265 771 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 988.3265 /RD-NAME-2/ 989.0930 772 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 989.0930 (pause 0.75) 989.8380 773 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 989.8380 Brown. 990.4074 774 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 990.4074 (pause 0.21) 990.6211 775 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 990.6211 /RD-NAME-2/ he was the 992.2304 776 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 992.2304 (pause 1.15) 993.3785 777 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 993.3785 um, in Livingston. 994.9366 778 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 994.9366 (pause 0.12) 995.0533 779 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 995.0533 And he was in Livingston, he was the probate judge. 998.1113 780 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 998.1113 (pause 0.41) 998.5205 781 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 998.5205 But he's dead. 999.4776 782 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 999.4776 (pause 0.68) 1000.1586 783 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1000.1586 And his sister was in there offering, you n- you know, uh, a hospital 1004.4075 784 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1004.4075 (pause 0.36) 1004.7647 785 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1004.7647 when I was at home last. 1006.5830 786 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1006.5830 (pause 0.59) 1007.1723 787 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1007.1723 And she told me that she would help me 1009.3479 788 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1009.3479 (pause 0.53) 1009.8823 789 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1009.8823 get my, uh, 1010.9999 790 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1010.9999 (pause 1.14) 1012.1372 791 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1012.1372 /cerstifi/- you know, getting a birth right cause she know when I was born. 1016.2823 792 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1016.2823 (pause 1.07) 1017.3555 793 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1017.3555 I can't get back down there, and I just told her I was gonna write to Central and they haven't- they said they can't find it. 1023.0121 794 DTA_int_08 1023.3066 Hm. 1023.4593 795 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1024.0883 And she would help me but, uh, 1025.6212 796 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1025.6212 (pause 2.12) 1027.7387 797 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1027.7387 oh, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ is dead and 1030.3540 798 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1030.3540 (pause 0.34) 1030.6960 799 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1030.6960 Ms. /RD-NAME-4/ is dead, all those 1033.2013 800 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1033.2013 (pause 0.65) 1033.8548 801 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1033.8548 people who'd know, probably lived on the place, you know. 1036.5006 802 DTA_int_08 1036.7021 Mm-hm. 1037.0777 803 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1037.3494 But, uh, 1038.0273 804 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1038.0273 (pause 0.49) 1038.5143 805 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1038.5143 Mr. McGowan- 1039.7235 806 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1039.7235 (pause 0.94) 1040.6640 807 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1040.6640 that was a white man the probably lived on this place 1043.6564 808 DTA_int_08 1044.3646 [Mm-hm. 1044.7303 809 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1044.5662 [too.] 1044.9509 810 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1045.6319 And so 1046.5052 811 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1046.5052 (pause 0.56) 1047.0670 812 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1047.0670 he was a- 1047.7830 813 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1047.7830 (pause 2.15) 1049.9296 814 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1049.9296 help me, I know some of them, but 1051.8609 815 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1051.8609 (pause 0.81) 1052.6701 816 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1052.6701 I told my daughter and I'm'a try to get up some money and go down there and get his 1056.2472 817 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1056.2472 (pause 0.91) 1057.1555 818 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1057.1555 get them write and n- down and I'll bring it backs to send it to Cen- 1061.3311 819 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1061.3311 (pause 0.65) 1061.9785 820 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1061.9785 see what they say. 1062.8929 821 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1062.8929 (pause 0.89) 1063.7868 822 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1063.7868 Get the truth, you know, somebody true that- um, that I get the correct, 1067.8725 823 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1067.8725 (pause 0.88) 1068.7555 824 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1068.7555 um, 1069.2678 825 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1069.2678 (pause 0.66) 1069.9250 826 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1069.9250 place, and they can find properly. It wouldn't take 'em no Centrals, but still th- 1074.2319 827 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1074.2319 (pause 0.51) 1074.7372 828 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1074.7372 they could give the name- or, you know, date of my birth. 1077.2730 829 DTA_int_08 1077.8685 Yeah. 1078.1964 830 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1078.2593 And they know [cause I] lived /long/. 1080.2998 831 DTA_int_08 1079.2334 [/Uh/.] 1079.4991 832 DTA_int_08 1080.8288 [Mm-hm.] 1081.2221 833 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1081.1250 [Mkay.] 1081.6074 834 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1081.9952 Oh, this is still talking ain't it? Is this talking what I'm saying? 1085.7036 835 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1085.7036 (pause 0.97) 1086.6700 836 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1086.6700 Oh. 1088.8502 837 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1088.8502 (pause 1.73) 1090.5761 838 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1090.5761 Well it's still recording what I say. 1093.1861 839 DTA_int_08 1093.3815 Uh-huh. 1093.7509 840 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1093.7509 Well. 1094.2059 841 DTA_int_08 1095.4349 I can't remember everything you say, 1097.5082 842 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1097.8166 [] 1098.5509 843 DTA_int_08 1097.8716 [so we have to have] that get it all down, right? 1100.1571 844 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1100.4868 Yeah. 1101.0395 845 DTA_int_08 1102.4395 Mm-hm. 1102.6349 846 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1102.7448 [/How was it/?] 1103.6243 847 DTA_int_08 1103.0532 [And you didn't] know? 1104.0762 848 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1104.3982 Uh-huh 1105.0005 849 DTA_int_08 1105.1677 [] 1105.6410 850 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1105.5466 [Well] I d- 1106.1448 851 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1107.9753 mm-hm. 1108.5761 852 DTA_int_08 1108.9922 Mm-hm. (laughing) 1109.3753 853 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1109.4166 Well okay. 1110.3418 854 DTA_int_08 1111.8486 1112.3311 855 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1112.3433 Well they sure l- know I was dumb, won't they? 1114.5921 856 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1114.5921 (pause 0.22) 1114.8151 857 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1114.8151 1115.2120 858 DTA_int_08 1115.4716 No, they'll know where you were born. 1117.8639 859 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1118.3311 I said dumb. 1119.4008 860 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1119.4008 (pause 0.58) 1119.9784 861 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1119.9784 Dumb, you know I was t- s- 1121.1235 862 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1121.1235 (pause 0.42) 1121.5387 863 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1121.5387 I was telling you how dumb I was when I, 1123.6166 864 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1123.6166 (pause 0.25) 1123.8639 865 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1123.8639 you know, didn't know nothing about nothing. 1125.5448 866 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1125.5448 (pause 0.28) 1125.8257 867 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1125.8257 I couldn't even talk on 1127.0746 868 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1127.0746 (pause 0.90) 1127.9754 869 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1127.9754 telephone things when I was a married woman and come to Bessemer. 1131.9356 870 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1131.9356 (pause 0.52) 1132.4578 871 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1132.4578 I had never talked on a telephone. 1134.3815 872 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1134.3815 (pause 0.18) 1134.5600 873 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1134.5600 You know. 1134.9723 874 DTA_int_08 1135.1066 Uh-huh. 1135.3868 875 DTA_int_08 1135.3868 (pause 1.34) 1136.7281 876 DTA_int_08 1136.7281 Where were you born? 1137.5746 877 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1138.4456 I was born in Cuba, Alabama. 1140.1433 878 DTA_int_08 1140.7402 Uh-huh. 1141.0791 879 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1141.1646 /Cubie/- 1141.6563 880 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1141.6563 (pause 1.37) 1143.0273 881 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1143.0273 and, um, 1143.5478 882 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1143.5478 (pause 1.96) 1145.5052 883 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1145.5052 um, 1146.0487 884 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1146.0487 (pause 1.47) 1147.5158 885 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1147.5158 I'm- I remember papa lived in, um, 1150.2471 886 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1150.2471 (pause 0.34) 1150.5830 887 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1150.5830 at Cuba and that's all the address that I knowed, was route one box ninety-seven. All I ever remember, 1156.6158 888 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1156.6158 (pause 0.53) 1157.1479 889 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1157.1479 you know. 1157.5265 890 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1157.5265 (pause 1.47) 1158.9967 891 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1158.9967 Uh, at Cuba. And, uh, 1160.3586 892 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1160.3586 (pause 0.49) 1160.8502 893 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1160.8502 my sister's here and she real sick, and she said we- 1164.0120 894 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1164.0120 (pause 0.42) 1164.4318 895 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1164.4318 say we used to live in Lauderdale before we're, um, 1167.2869 896 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1167.2869 (pause 0.51) 1167.7921 897 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1167.7921 you know, 1168.3112 898 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1168.3112 (pause 0.94) 1169.2487 899 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1169.2487 too. Lauderdale, Mississippi. 1170.7280 900 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1170.7280 (pause 1.17) 1171.9005 901 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1171.9005 But I wasn't born in Lauderdale. I- 1174.3814 902 DTA_int_08 1174.3967 [Mm-hm.] 1174.7174 903 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1174.5036 [I] was born in, um, 1175.6823 904 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1176.3768 Cuba, Alabama. All I know. 1177.9494 905 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1177.9494 (pause 0.55) 1178.5021 906 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1178.5021 And I know that 1179.2899 907 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1179.2899 (pause 1.19) 1180.4761 908 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1180.4761 the, um, 1181.0135 909 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1181.0135 (pause 0.11) 1181.1204 910 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1181.1204 date was, 1181.9708 911 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1181.9708 (pause 2.12) 1184.0929 912 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1184.0929 um, nineteen-o-three. 1185.8379 913 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1185.8379 (pause 0.65) 1186.4883 914 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1186.4883 I know they'd always- they always would tell when it was we born, you know. 1190.3341 915 DTA_int_08 1190.7097 [Mm-hm.] 1190.9676 916 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1190.8703 [But] I can't 1191.5261 917 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1191.7280 remember the address 1193.5387 918 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1193.5387 (pause 1.59) 1195.1249 919 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1195.1249 of what we had. 1196.2181 920 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1196.2181 (pause 0.35) 1196.5646 921 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1196.5646 No more, Cuba, Alabama. I guess they got their- 1199.4624 922 DTA_int_08 1198.0547 [Oh.] 1198.6135 923 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1199.9571 they didn't have no 1200.8654 924 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1200.8654 (pause 0.52) 1201.3814 925 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1201.3814 house number something [like that.] 1203.5020 926 DTA_int_08 1203.0837 [Mm.] 1203.4842 927 DTA_int_08 1203.7097 Mm-hm. 1203.9796 928 DTA_int_08 1203.9796 (pause 0.71) 1204.6868 929 DTA_int_08 1204.6868 Where else have you lived? 1205.9204 930 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1207.2227 Hm? 1207.4944 931 DTA_int_08 1207.6105 Where else have you lived? 1208.9326 932 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1209.5509 Where else have I lived beside, uh? 1211.5112 933 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1211.5112 (pause 0.88) 1212.3921 934 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1212.3921 Well I lived in- 1213.7295 935 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1213.7295 (pause 1.34) 1215.0731 936 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1215.0731 from Cuba to Laurel, Mississippi, and came back to Bessemer, Alabama, and came 1219.2898 937 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1219.2898 (pause 0.52) 1219.8120 938 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1219.8120 from there here. 1220.6029 939 DTA_int_08 1221.3235 How many years have you been here? 1222.9005 940 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1224.1433 Well I came here in- in nineteen, 1227.2716 941 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1227.2716 (pause 0.19) 1227.4623 942 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1227.4623 um, 1227.9234 943 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1227.9234 (pause 1.42) 1229.3464 944 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1229.3464 s- nineteen sixty-two. 1232.0441 945 DTA_int_08 1233.7921 You've been in Detroit three years? 1235.3769 946 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1235.7464 Mm-hm. 1236.3240 947 DTA_int_08 1236.6150 Uh-huh. 1237.0794 948 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1238.4357 Yeah. 1238.8135 949 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1238.8135 (pause 2.09) 1240.9005 950 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1240.9005 I married again, my second husband, and we came up here on a visit. 1245.4867 951 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1245.4867 (pause 0.77) 1246.2532 952 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1246.2532 And he'd taken sick. 1247.3128 953 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1247.3128 (pause 0.53) 1247.8471 954 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1247.8471 And died th- the- there. 1249.4883 955 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1249.4883 (pause 0.66) 1250.1460 956 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1250.1460 We came in sixty-two and he died in sixty-three, in first day of April. 1254.0487 957 DTA_int_08 1254.5051 Oh, I'm sorry. 1255.3326 958 DTA_int_08 1255.3326 (pause 0.29) 1255.6257 959 DTA_int_08 1255.6257 Well [what was-] 1256.2557 960 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1255.9097 [Sure] did. 1256.6846 961 DTA_int_08 1258.9433 Mm-hm. 1259.1915 962 DTA_int_08 1259.1915 (pause 0.21) 1259.4048 963 DTA_int_08 1259.4048 What happened to him? 1260.3937 964 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1261.1707 What? 1261.4364 965 DTA_int_08 1261.6439 What happened to him? 1262.9109 966 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1263.3968 Well, um, 1264.3173 967 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1264.3173 (pause 0.92) 1265.2364 968 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1265.2364 he had a heart- a heart attack or something and he'd taken down sick. 1269.2716 969 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1269.2716 (pause 0.53) 1269.7982 970 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1269.7982 And all a sudden he have a stroke. 1271.5418 971 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1271.5418 (pause 0.36) 1271.9051 972 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1271.9051 And they carried him to the Columbia Hospital, and then he died. 1275.0242 973 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1275.0242 (pause 1.65) 1276.6715 974 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1276.6715 Mm-hm. 1277.1815 975 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1277.1815 (pause 3.05) 1280.2273 976 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1280.2273 Mm-hm. 1280.7352 977 DTA_int_08 1280.7952 Is it very different up here from down south? 1283.3871 978 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1284.5753 Yeah. 1285.0608 979 DTA_int_08 1285.2623 Everything? 1285.7572 980 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1285.9188 Lots are different. 1286.9693 981 DTA_int_08 1287.4348 Like what? 1287.8837 982 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1287.9051 Uh- um, 1288.6562 983 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1288.6562 (pause 1.69) 1290.3449 984 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1290.3449 it look like to me t- 1291.3723 985 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1291.3723 (pause 0.93) 1292.3036 986 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1292.3036 that this the best place to live or something, you know. 1295.4838 987 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1295.4838 (pause 0.44) 1295.9279 988 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1295.9279 When I was down there at the time th- um, 1298.4227 989 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1298.4227 (pause 0.83) 1299.2532 990 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1299.2532 I- when I first came 1300.8190 991 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1300.8190 (pause 1.77) 1302.5905 992 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1302.5905 to- to Bessemer, 1303.7417 993 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1303.7417 (pause 1.01) 1304.7494 994 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1304.7494 uh, we given, uh- I w- 1306.7112 995 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1306.7112 (pause 0.17) 1306.8791 996 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1306.8791 never did his work, 1308.3014 997 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1308.3014 (pause 0.20) 1308.4989 998 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1308.4989 no more than house work, you know, house cleaning. 1311.2795 999 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1311.2795 (pause 0.53) 1311.8135 1000 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1311.8135 And then when I go to the people's house, I would have to go around to the back door, you know, 1316.0227 1001 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1316.0227 (pause 0.70) 1316.7250 1002 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1316.7250 to go in. Well 1318.0730 1003 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1318.0730 (pause 0.47) 1318.5463 1004 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1318.5463 now it's done changed down there, 1320.6455 1005 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1320.6455 (pause 0.33) 1320.9722 1006 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1320.9722 cause you can go in the front door. 1322.7525 1007 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1322.7525 (pause 0.66) 1323.4134 1008 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1323.4134 And then you would have to wait til after 1325.7830 1009 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1325.7830 (pause 0.80) 1326.5875 1010 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1326.5875 everybody eat, 1327.5921 1011 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1327.5921 (pause 0.40) 1327.9891 1012 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1327.9891 after you fix 1328.9967 1013 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1328.9967 (pause 0.24) 1329.2319 1014 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1329.2319 food, you know, you have to wait til everybody eat. 1331.7036 1015 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1331.7036 (pause 1.08) 1332.7860 1016 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1332.7860 So you could eat, you know, like that. And that seem a lots a different 1337.1265 1017 DTA_int_08 1337.6486 [Mm-hm.] 1337.9041 1018 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1337.7341 [too.] 1338.0120 1019 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1339.1616 And, um, 1339.6532 1020 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1339.6532 (pause 1.31) 1340.9601 1021 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1340.9601 1341.0639 1022 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1341.0639 (pause 0.99) 1342.0547 1023 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1342.0547 here 1342.5494 1024 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1342.5494 (pause 0.15) 1342.6985 1025 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1342.6985 you don't, here's not that way. 1344.3143 1026 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1344.3143 (pause 0.68) 1344.9906 1027 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1344.9906 And my daughter, 1345.8397 1028 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1345.8397 (pause 1.24) 1347.0761 1029 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1347.0761 uh, she's on /RD-WORK-3/ and she work 1349.4692 1030 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1349.4692 (pause 0.37) 1349.8441 1031 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1349.8441 two days a week over here. 1351.3936 1032 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1351.3936 (pause 0.63) 1352.0227 1033 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1352.0227 And, uh, 1352.5356 1034 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1352.5356 (pause 0.21) 1352.7494 1035 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1352.7494 she go, 1353.3340 1036 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1353.3340 (pause 0.34) 1353.6699 1037 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1353.6699 the people treat her just like she was in the family. They don't even make a difference. 1358.3982 1038 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1358.3982 (pause 1.60) 1359.9994 1039 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1359.9994 Oh, the children so crazy about her, they just, 1362.8715 1040 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1362.8715 (pause 0.39) 1363.2593 1041 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1363.2593 you know. 1363.7265 1042 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1363.7265 (pause 0.58) 1364.3044 1043 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1364.3044 And then, uh, the children down there would call you, 1367.1875 1044 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1367.1875 (pause 0.14) 1367.3250 1045 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1367.3250 uh- I used to work for, 1368.9170 1046 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1368.9170 (pause 0.76) 1369.6776 1047 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1369.6776 um, 1370.1448 1048 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1370.1448 (pause 0.16) 1370.3005 1049 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1370.3005 some people. 1371.1433 1050 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1371.1433 (pause 0.47) 1371.6119 1051 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1371.6119 And they would, 1372.3845 1052 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1372.3845 (pause 1.02) 1373.4043 1053 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1373.4043 uh, tell me- 1374.3951 1054 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1374.3951 (pause 1.28) 1375.6776 1055 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1375.6776 the children said 1376.7769 1056 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1376.7769 (pause 2.22) 1378.9966 1057 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1378.9966 your skin black, you's old nigger. 1381.0241 1058 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1381.0241 (pause 1.04) 1382.0623 1059 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1382.0623 That's what they would tell me when s- 1383.5905 1060 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1383.5905 (pause 0.28) 1383.8715 1061 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1383.8715 they mother would 1384.5005 1062 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1384.5005 (pause 0.29) 1384.7875 1063 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1384.7875 go off, you know. 1385.6120 1064 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1385.6120 (pause 0.68) 1386.2960 1065 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1386.2960 And when she'd come I would tell 'em what she said- 1388.6364 1066 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1388.6364 (pause 0.26) 1388.8990 1067 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1388.8990 what the ch- 1389.3829 1068 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1389.3829 (pause 0.44) 1389.8226 1069 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1389.8226 kids say. 1390.5371 1070 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1390.5371 (pause 0.85) 1391.3921 1071 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1391.3921 And, uh, 1391.8105 1072 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1391.8105 (pause 0.19) 1391.9998 1073 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1391.9998 she would, uh, 1392.7066 1074 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1392.7066 (pause 0.87) 1393.5738 1075 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1393.5738 you know, scold 'em about it. 1394.8593 1076 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1394.8593 (pause 1.08) 1395.9356 1077 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1395.9356 She would scold 'em. 1396.8333 1078 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1396.8333 (pause 0.64) 1397.4715 1079 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1397.4715 Tell them that was 1398.4837 1080 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1398.4837 (pause 0.93) 1399.4089 1081 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1399.4089 not to be calling me a nigger, not to be calling me black like that. 1402.9188 1082 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1402.9188 (pause 0.51) 1403.4257 1083 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1403.4257 And one of their little girl- they would have, uh, 1405.3457 1084 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1405.3457 (pause 0.35) 1405.6929 1085 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1405.6929 these things, like you turn around on your /finger/ like they march with. 1409.3044 1086 DTA_int_08 1409.4135 Mm-hm. 1409.6617 1087 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1409.9509 Hit me in the back when I'd be trying to hang up clothes, just come out there and lay on me in the back with that big s- 1415.2578 1088 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1415.2578 (pause 0.56) 1415.8227 1089 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1415.8227 thing on the end. 1416.9661 1090 DTA_int_08 1417.1738 Oh. 1417.3692 1091 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1418.0257 And I'll say, I'm'a tell your mama when you come. They be all running and they would have the /company/ playing with it, and run around the house, and just laugh. 1424.8074 1092 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1424.8074 (pause 1.28) 1426.0915 1093 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1426.0915 Said, we hit that nigger, didn't we. 1427.9343 1094 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1427.9343 (pause 0.26) 1428.1937 1095 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1428.1937 And like that, you know. 1429.6685 1096 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1429.6685 (pause 0.33) 1430.0007 1097 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1430.0007 And I was just so nice to 'em, well you know, and do everything for 'em. 1433.6018 1098 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1433.6018 (pause 0.79) 1434.3906 1099 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1434.3906 And I'd have the baby in my arm, 1436.1288 1100 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1436.1288 (pause 1.35) 1437.4835 1101 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1437.4835 you gotta have a baby- look at your black hands on our baby. 1440.8130 1102 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1440.8130 (pause 1.06) 1441.8695 1103 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1441.8695 Mm. 1442.3339 1104 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1442.3339 (pause 0.47) 1442.8062 1105 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1442.8062 And I would- I would 1443.5659 1106 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1443.5659 (pause 0.15) 1443.7154 1107 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1443.7154 tell her every time, so 1445.1044 1108 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1445.1044 (pause 0.87) 1445.9740 1109 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1445.9740 last when they- 1446.9786 1110 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1446.9786 (pause 0.75) 1447.7261 1111 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1447.7261 go back. 1448.1960 1112 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1448.1960 (pause 3.33) 1451.5285 1113 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1451.5285 The last when they, uh- 1452.8985 1114 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1452.8985 (pause 0.41) 1453.3050 1115 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1453.3050 she came 1453.9450 1116 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1453.9450 (pause 1.19) 1455.1394 1117 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1455.1394 to the house and, uh, 1456.5674 1118 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1456.5674 (pause 0.18) 1456.7444 1119 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1456.7444 I mean she was there and she had me, I put the bread on and I was helping her after I got 1461.4315 1120 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1461.4315 (pause 0.49) 1461.9229 1121 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1461.9229 her dinner on, she likes so much the way I iron, you know, she l- l- liked my work. 1466.7163 1122 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1466.7163 (pause 0.73) 1467.4438 1123 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1467.4438 And so she asked me, 1468.9473 1124 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1468.9473 (pause 0.26) 1469.2082 1125 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1469.2082 where was the glass that I drinking out of, and I told her. 1472.2143 1126 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1472.2143 (pause 0.43) 1472.6424 1127 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1472.6424 It was sitting on the /sink/. 1473.8466 1128 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1473.8466 (pause 1.04) 1474.8847 1129 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1474.8847 And she 1475.3882 1130 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1475.3882 (pause 0.21) 1475.5942 1131 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1475.5942 taking that glass and sat it outside the door, on the- 1478.4828 1132 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1478.4828 (pause 0.36) 1478.8397 1133 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1478.8397 on the floor. 1479.6727 1134 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1479.6727 (pause 0.64) 1480.3172 1135 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1480.3172 And I seen her when she done that, and so she said, um- 1483.7719 1136 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1483.7719 (pause 1.91) 1485.6849 1137 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1485.6849 uh, hm. 1486.3966 1138 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1486.3966 (pause 0.48) 1486.8786 1139 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1486.8786 She put on some water, you know, 1488.6025 1140 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1488.6025 (pause 0.86) 1489.4606 1141 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1489.4606 and took my m- 1490.4400 1142 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1490.4400 (pause 0.23) 1490.6719 1143 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1490.6719 dishes aw- they all had done ate, she came back in there and got the dish what I ate of and 1495.6407 1144 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1495.6407 (pause 0.49) 1496.1258 1145 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1496.1258 things. And poured the boiling water over it 1498.3081 1146 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1498.3081 (pause 1.81) 1500.1143 1147 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1500.1143 and, uh, 1500.5659 1148 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1500.5659 (pause 1.50) 1502.0709 1149 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1502.0709 then she put 'em in the sink with them other things. 1504.7397 1150 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1504.7397 (pause 1.09) 1505.8306 1151 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1505.8306 I washed 'em, I didn't say nothing about 1507.7444 1152 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1507.7444 (pause 0.28) 1508.0281 1153 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1508.0281 what she did, but I just didn't go back the next day. 1510.8085 1154 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1510.8085 (pause 0.22) 1511.0281 1155 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1511.0281 She might have been doing it the whole time, but I didn't know it. 1513.8160 1156 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1513.8160 (pause 1.72) 1515.5403 1157 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1515.5403 So I was working for another lady, and she would 1518.0411 1158 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1518.0411 (pause 0.42) 1518.4634 1159 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1518.4634 done the same thing. And so I didn't think that was right and I- 1521.7276 1160 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1521.7276 (pause 0.60) 1522.3233 1161 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1522.3233 I just stopped working for 'em. 1523.7055 1162 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1523.7055 (pause 1.72) 1525.4271 1163 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1525.4271 /Have to/ wait the whole time, you know. 1527.2211 1164 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1527.2211 (pause 1.40) 1528.6232 1165 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1528.6232 Talk to you so bad, she would have the- 1530.6739 1166 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1530.6739 (pause 0.61) 1531.2867 1167 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1531.2867 her guests would come in and look at how nice the house was cleaned up, and tell them that, uh, 1536.3574 1168 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1536.3574 (pause 0.83) 1537.1891 1169 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1537.1891 /RD-NAME-3/ did this. That, 1538.8346 1170 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1538.8346 (pause 0.44) 1539.2730 1171 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1539.2730 look how beautiful she cleans up. She can clean up, she really know what to dos. They be sh- sh- b- talking 1544.7756 1172 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1544.7756 (pause 0.39) 1545.1692 1173 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1545.1692 but they would never speak or saying nothing to me, you know. 1548.1647 1174 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1548.1647 (pause 0.64) 1548.8008 1175 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1548.8008 They would come on by me like I was a /knot/ standing up there in the floorboards. (laughing) 1553.0326 1176 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1553.0326 (pause 2.74) 1555.7718 1177 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1555.7718 So that was all- 1556.9938 1178 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1556.9938 (pause 0.52) 1557.5109 1179 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1557.5109 it's much, uh, different from the- 1559.1319 1180 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1559.1319 (pause 0.77) 1559.9068 1181 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1559.9068 my daughter 1560.4865 1182 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1560.4865 (pause 0.24) 1560.7306 1183 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1560.7306 takes me with her, you know, where she work. And they treat me, have a seat. 1564.2440 1184 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1564.2440 (pause 0.50) 1564.7444 1185 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1564.7444 Oh, this your mother? And she said, meet your mother, you know and they would 1567.8115 1186 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1567.8115 (pause 1.10) 1568.9099 1187 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1568.9099 tell me their names, shake hands with me and everything. It just seemed real different. 1573.2959 1188 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1573.2959 (pause 1.91) 1575.2089 1189 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1575.2089 I likes here m- much better. 1576.8420 1190 DTA_int_08 1579.2623 Mm-hm. 1579.5468 1191 DTA_int_08 1579.5468 (pause 0.37) 1579.9122 1192 DTA_int_08 1579.9122 What does your daughter do? 1581.1296 1193 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1582.7810 My daughter, where she at? 1583.8916 1194 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1583.8916 (pause 1.39) 1585.2837 1195 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1585.2837 Well, she works at this Catholic school. 1588.1403 1196 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1588.1403 (pause 0.67) 1588.8054 1197 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1588.8054 Um, 1589.3332 1198 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1589.3332 (pause 0.18) 1589.5102 1199 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1589.5102 some kind of 1590.3330 1200 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1590.3330 (pause 1.25) 1591.5796 1201 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1591.5796 job like that. 1592.5529 1202 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1592.5529 (pause 0.18) 1592.7329 1203 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1592.7329 Uh, it's a government job. 1594.7322 1204 DTA_int_08 1595.0068 [Uh-huh.] 1595.3362 1205 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1595.0861 [She works] at a Catholic school. 1596.7245 1206 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1598.0037 Takes 1598.5000 1207 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1598.5000 (pause 0.16) 1598.6597 1208 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1598.6597 children out of- sightseeing, different thing like that. This time of years, uh, they goes out, you know, they not 1605.4133 1209 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1605.4133 (pause 0.23) 1605.6421 1210 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1605.6421 teaching s- 1606.2592 1211 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1606.2592 (pause 0.77) 1607.0312 1212 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1607.0312 but they, uh, 1607.6871 1213 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1607.6871 (pause 1.13) 1608.8130 1214 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1608.8130 has a- 1609.5918 1215 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1609.5918 (pause 0.78) 1610.3698 1216 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1610.3698 takes 'em out to different games, uh, s- 1612.3996 1217 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1612.3996 (pause 0.49) 1612.8939 1218 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1612.8939 to the farm, and, uh, 1614.7947 1219 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1614.7947 (pause 0.82) 1615.6132 1220 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1615.6132 take 'em to r- 1616.1929 1221 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1616.1929 (pause 0.20) 1616.3973 1222 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1616.3973 playground, just play /a surrogate/. 1618.3449 1223 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1618.3449 (pause 1.15) 1619.4980 1224 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1619.4980 On, they have a bus to take 'em out there. The government pays for all of that. 1623.2913 1225 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1623.2913 (pause 0.64) 1623.9267 1226 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1623.9267 She'll take 'em to, uh- 1625.6170 1227 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1625.6170 (pause 0.27) 1625.8916 1228 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1625.8916 go back baby. 1626.8557 1229 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1626.8557 (pause 1.96) 1628.8122 1230 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1628.8122 Takes 'em to, uh, 1630.0975 1231 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1630.0975 (pause 2.69) 1632.7886 1232 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1632.7886 uh. 1633.4667 1233 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1633.4667 (pause 0.47) 1633.9335 1234 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1633.9335 Niagara Falls, not long ago. 1636.1677 1235 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1636.1677 (pause 0.53) 1636.6955 1236 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1636.6955 And they have a bus load to take their mothers. 1639.9305 1237 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1639.9305 (pause 0.67) 1640.6017 1238 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1640.6017 That's kind of job she got, the one where stay here. 1643.3668 1239 DTA_int_08 1644.2333 Mm-hm. 1644.6635 1240 DTA_int_08 1644.6635 (pause 0.58) 1645.2440 1241 DTA_int_08 1645.2440 Is that your daughter? 1646.3698 1242 DTA_int_08 1646.3698 (pause 1.06) 1647.4347 1243 DTA_int_08 1647.4347 Your daughter? 1648.0304 1244 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1648.4942 Mm-hm. That's my oldest daughter. 1650.3880 1245 DTA_int_08 1650.7642 How [many ch-] 1651.3264 1246 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1650.9877 [The one of 'em,] 1651.5033 1247 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1651.9976 um, uh, born in Laurel, Mississippi. 1654.9152 1248 DTA_int_08 1655.2356 how many children do you have? 1656.7611 1249 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1657.8267 I have, um, 1658.7329 1250 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1658.7329 (pause 1.22) 1659.9511 1251 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1659.9511 four children living. 1661.1624 1252 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1661.1624 (pause 1.02) 1662.1784 1253 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1662.1784 My- my oldest son got drowned. 1664.7137 1254 DTA_int_08 1665.2211 Oh. 1665.5433 1255 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1665.9259 And my 1666.5717 1256 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1666.5717 (pause 0.24) 1666.8115 1257 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1666.8115 little girl of about four got burned up. 1669.2226 1258 DTA_int_08 1670.0769 What [happened?] 1670.7967 1259 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1670.4583 [And all] of that just makes me real forgetful. Sometime I forget what I'm 1674.6726 1260 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1675.4606 tryna s- um, 1676.9099 1261 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1676.9099 (pause 1.27) 1678.1799 1262 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1678.1799 just- just forgetting I'm putting anything up and can't find it. I just 1682.5834 1263 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1682.5834 (pause 0.42) 1683.0044 1264 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1683.0044 been that way ever since that happened. 1684.6894 1265 DTA_int_08 1685.1318 What happened to your daughter? 1686.2100 1266 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1687.3264 D- uh, s- 1688.0744 1267 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1688.0744 (pause 0.26) 1688.3363 1268 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1688.3363 sh- sh- 1688.8488 1269 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1688.8488 (pause 0.23) 1689.0807 1270 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1689.0807 I went, 1689.5872 1271 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1689.5872 (pause 0.25) 1689.8404 1272 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1689.8404 um, to- 1690.9274 1273 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1690.9274 (pause 0.15) 1691.0800 1274 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1691.0800 to school. 1691.9221 1275 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1691.9221 (pause 0.52) 1692.4407 1276 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1692.4407 And the school wasn't no- 1693.4057 1277 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1693.4057 (pause 0.18) 1693.5857 1278 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1693.5857 hm, wasn't a half a block and, uh, d- 1695.8618 1279 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1695.8618 (pause 0.69) 1696.5547 1280 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1696.5547 my oldest girl had just been came here. 1698.7428 1281 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1698.7428 (pause 0.84) 1699.5857 1282 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1699.5857 Came to the house and told me the teachers had stepped out a minute. It wasn't far and I just took the baby up in my arm and went up to see what she want. 1706.8641 1283 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1706.8641 (pause 0.75) 1707.6168 1284 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1707.6168 And that's when my little 1708.8267 1285 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1708.8267 (pause 0.95) 1709.7817 1286 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1709.7817 child like that, she was about, 1711.2775 1287 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1711.2775 (pause 0.79) 1712.0678 1288 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1712.0678 uh, three going on four. 1713.6970 1289 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1713.6970 (pause 0.67) 1714.3660 1290 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1714.3660 And the little boy was five going on six. 1717.5159 1291 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1717.5159 (pause 1.09) 1718.6078 1292 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1718.6078 And so 1719.3675 1293 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1719.3675 (pause 0.38) 1719.7459 1294 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1719.7459 when I got back, she was burned to death. 1721.7878 1295 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1721.7878 (pause 0.37) 1722.1600 1296 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1722.1600 The little boy came over there and 1723.8328 1297 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1723.8328 (pause 0.69) 1724.5224 1298 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1724.5224 unstuck a paper sack 1725.9716 1299 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1725.9716 (pause 0.54) 1726.5094 1300 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1726.5094 to her, 1727.0464 1301 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1727.0464 (pause 0.70) 1727.7481 1302 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1727.7481 you know, to her dress. 1728.9045 1303 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1728.9045 (pause 0.62) 1729.5196 1304 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1729.5196 While she have on her new outing clothes, and just 1732.3108 1305 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1732.3108 (pause 1.05) 1733.3637 1306 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1733.3637 burning her. 1733.9326 1307 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1733.9326 (pause 2.29) 1736.2234 1308 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1736.2234 And so my oldest son was twenty-two 1738.5582 1309 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1738.5582 (pause 0.87) 1739.4247 1310 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1739.4247 and he got drowned 1740.5994 1311 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1740.5994 (pause 0.32) 1740.9228 1312 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1740.9228 [in] Bessemer, Alabama. 1742.1745 1313 DTA_int_08 1740.9999 [What-] 1741.2383 1314 DTA_int_08 1742.5620 What happened to him? 1743.4620 1315 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1743.9602 What happened to him? 1744.9823 1316 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1744.9823 (pause 0.52) 1745.5041 1317 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1745.5041 He just, uh, w- was swimming one Sunday in, uh, 1748.2935 1318 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1748.2935 (pause 0.81) 1749.1051 1319 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1749.1051 the reservoir in Bessemer. 1750.5948 1320 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1750.5948 (pause 0.28) 1750.8786 1321 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1750.8786 And he was swimming, 1751.7298 1322 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1751.7298 (pause 0.55) 1752.2790 1323 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1752.2790 him and some /old/ boys. And they say he collapsed and just went down, and didn't come back. 1756.6534 1324 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1756.6534 (pause 1.27) 1757.9190 1325 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1757.9190 The polices 1758.9022 1326 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1758.9022 (pause 0.36) 1759.2623 1327 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1759.2623 told me that they gave 'em and 1761.0125 1328 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1761.0125 (pause 0.62) 1761.6330 1329 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1761.6330 me the same story. They was, uh, 1763.4247 1330 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1763.4247 (pause 1.06) 1764.4896 1331 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1764.4896 /hounding him/, but, um, they gave me the address but that they never woulda let me see him. I never did get up with him. 1770.4072 1332 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1770.4072 (pause 2.47) 1772.8793 1333 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1772.8793 Every time I 1773.6787 1334 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1773.6787 (pause 0.47) 1774.1524 1335 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1774.1524 go and /??/ for example, it'd be to the house that the police told me to get, 1778.1837 1336 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1778.1837 (pause 0.91) 1779.0899 1337 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1779.0899 um, 1779.5719 1338 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1779.5719 (pause 1.87) 1781.4430 1339 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1781.4430 you know. U- u- 1782.4133 1340 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1782.4133 (pause 0.15) 1782.5658 1341 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1782.5658 uh, whatever they said, give me the same statement 1785.5475 1342 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1785.5475 (pause 0.38) 1785.9259 1343 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1785.9259 that them gave them. 1786.8511 1344 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1786.8511 (pause 0.69) 1787.5376 1345 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1787.5376 But they never- I never could catch up with 'em. 1789.5918 1346 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1789.5918 (pause 0.64) 1790.2356 1347 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1790.2356 And the police didn't seem to be interested to go pick 'em up. 1793.4461 1348 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1793.4461 (pause 0.70) 1794.1448 1349 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1794.1448 And this- he had married. 1795.6345 1350 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1795.6345 (pause 0.29) 1795.9243 1351 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1795.9243 And his wife said that she was his wife, and- 1798.2409 1352 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1798.2409 (pause 0.74) 1798.9793 1353 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1798.9793 and the coroner want me to have a autopsy, and she said wasn't no autopsy gonna be performed on, cause that was her husband. 1805.1526 1354 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1805.1526 (pause 0.68) 1805.8305 1355 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1805.8305 And those boys what went with him was 1807.8572 1356 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1807.8572 (pause 0.62) 1808.4766 1357 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1808.4766 their friend that would come play cards with them, you know, at 1811.8522 1358 DTA_int_08 1812.1631 Mm-hm. 1812.3797 1359 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1812.4316 night. And said that she didn't want 'em arrested. 1814.7819 1360 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1814.7819 (pause 2.17) 1816.9549 1361 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1816.9549 And so wasn't nothing I could do, cause I was just almost collapsed. I couldn't even stand up. 1821.6543 1362 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1821.6543 (pause 0.86) 1822.5095 1363 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1822.5095 I- it just shocked me so that I just 1824.8770 1364 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1824.8770 (pause 0.44) 1825.3203 1365 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1825.3203 sink. I sent for her to come to the house 1827.7123 1366 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1827.7123 (pause 0.99) 1828.7047 1367 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1828.7047 th- the- the coroner sent me word for to have a 1831.5033 1368 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1831.5033 (pause 0.32) 1831.8206 1369 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1831.8206 autopsy. 1832.4796 1370 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1832.4796 (pause 0.28) 1832.7603 1371 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1832.7603 Cause 1833.0441 1372 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1833.0441 (pause 0.31) 1833.3583 1373 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1833.3583 he couldn't see if he was strangled. 1835.4949 1374 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1835.4949 (pause 0.57) 1836.0654 1375 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1836.0654 And he couldn't- he wanted to find the- 1837.9463 1376 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1837.9463 (pause 0.22) 1838.1684 1377 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1838.1684 they wanted to find the- 1839.2821 1378 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1839.2821 (pause 0.38) 1839.6634 1379 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1839.6634 the cause of him 1840.7840 1380 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1840.7840 (pause 0.90) 1841.6841 1381 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1841.6841 to drown. 1842.4896 1382 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1842.4896 (pause 1.27) 1843.7626 1383 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1843.7626 And so she d- she w- 1845.1234 1384 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1845.1234 (pause 0.19) 1845.3095 1385 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1845.3095 came a told me wasn't no autopsy gonna be performed on him. 1848.0807 1386 DTA_int_08 1848.5719 Mm-hm. 1848.8191 1387 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1849.1829 She came to the bed where I was. 1851.1112 1388 DTA_int_08 1851.5910 Mm-hm. 1851.8137 1389 DTA_int_08 1851.8137 (pause 0.74) 1852.5521 1390 DTA_int_08 1852.5521 Have you ever been in the hospital? 1854.2516 1391 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1854.6970 Me? 1855.0334 1392 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1855.0334 (pause 0.45) 1855.4880 1393 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1855.4880 Yes. 1855.9884 1394 DTA_int_08 1856.2630 What for? 1856.8827 1395 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1857.8709 Well I had the appendix 1859.2630 1396 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1859.2630 (pause 0.89) 1860.1509 1397 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1860.1509 in, um, 1860.6695 1398 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1860.6695 (pause 2.12) 1862.7847 1399 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1862.7847 in Birmingham. 1863.7893 1400 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1863.7893 (pause 0.72) 1864.5124 1401 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1864.5124 They gave me a operation. It burst and they 1866.9533 1402 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1866.9533 (pause 0.20) 1867.1494 1403 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1867.1494 gave me a operation. [And that's] 1868.5934 1404 DTA_int_08 1868.0311 [Mm-hm.] 1868.3637 1405 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1869.5513 [I just-] 1869.9999 1406 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1869.9999 (pause 0.32) 1870.3233 1407 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1870.3233 that was, uh, I think about- 1871.8793 1408 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1871.8793 (pause 1.50) 1873.3782 1409 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1873.3782 1873.5063 1410 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1873.5063 (pause 0.24) 1873.7443 1411 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1873.7443 about fifty-four, I believe. 1875.4800 1412 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1875.4800 (pause 1.33) 1876.8114 1413 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1876.8114 That was about fifty-four. 1878.0532 1414 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1878.0532 (pause 1.24) 1879.2897 1415 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1879.2897 Go back. 1879.7992 1416 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1879.7992 (pause 3.06) 1882.8572 1417 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1882.8572 He's real bad. 1883.8992 1418 DTA_int_08 1885.0273 [Why?] 1885.5889 1419 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1885.3477 [Hm,] do nothing with- why he so bad? 1887.3065 1420 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1887.6573 I don't know. I believe he just spoiled, my daughter just spoiled him /?? up/. 1892.0311 1421 DTA_int_08 1892.8671 He's just beautiful. 1894.2195 1422 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1894.6314 You think [so?] 1895.4705 1423 DTA_int_08 1895.4552 [Oh, yes.] 1896.7093 1424 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1896.4499 [Oh.] 1896.8465 1425 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1897.0395 Hm. 1897.3782 1426 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1897.3782 (pause 1.03) 1898.4064 1427 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1898.4064 Thank you. 1898.9830 1428 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1898.9830 (pause 0.96) 1899.9441 1429 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1899.9441 If he wasn't so damn hard headed. 1902.1112 1430 DTA_int_08 1902.6116 1902.9236 1431 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1903.0517 1903.4667 1432 DTA_int_08 1907.2386 How old is he? 1908.1921 1433 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1909.5948 He two- was two in April. 1911.5963 1434 DTA_int_08 1911.8953 Uh-huh. 1912.2714 1435 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1916.2477 He's adopted. 1917.2027 1436 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1917.2027 (pause 0.32) 1917.5261 1437 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1917.5261 She e- she wanted a child so bad 1919.9190 1438 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1919.9190 (pause 1.00) 1920.9228 1439 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1920.9228 to 1921.5948 1440 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1921.5948 (pause 0.17) 1921.7657 1441 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1921.7657 sh- n- she got this baby, uh, 1923.9838 1442 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1923.9838 (pause 0.31) 1924.2958 1443 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1924.2958 adopted. 1925.0433 1444 DTA_int_08 1927.6070 Is he the only [one?] 1928.5213 1445 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1928.3240 [He was] just- 1929.2383 1446 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1931.1043 lemme see, he was just I think about- 1933.0944 1447 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1933.0944 (pause 0.48) 1933.5765 1448 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1933.5765 he wasn't five weeks old. 1935.0074 1449 DTA_int_08 1935.6268 When she [got him?] 1936.3113 1450 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1935.9053 [When she] got. 1936.6558 1451 DTA_int_08 1937.7817 Oh. 1938.1097 1452 DTA_int_08 1938.1097 (pause 1.23) 1939.3355 1453 DTA_int_08 1939.3355 Is this her only child? The only one? 1941.3960 1454 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1942.0395 Yeah. 1942.3602 1455 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1942.3602 (pause 0.90) 1943.2630 1456 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1943.2630 Only one. 1944.0837 1457 DTA_int_08 1947.9998 Uh-huh. 1948.2988 1458 DTA_int_08 1948.2988 (pause 0.71) 1949.0097 1459 DTA_int_08 1949.0097 Have, uh- 1949.5803 1460 DTA_int_08 1949.5803 (pause 0.18) 1949.7634 1461 DTA_int_08 1949.7634 can you tell me about the time, uh, th- the worst time you were ever sick? 1953.6154 1462 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1955.4216 Worst time 1956.3095 1463 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1956.3095 (pause 0.90) 1957.2134 1464 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1957.2134 that I had? 1957.9579 1465 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1957.9579 (pause 0.25) 1958.2081 1466 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1958.2081 You mean? 1958.5803 1467 DTA_int_08 1958.7512 That you were ever sick. 1959.9807 1468 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1962.4346 That [I h-] 1962.9541 1469 DTA_int_08 1962.6551 [When you-] when you were sick. 1964.2233 1470 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1964.6840 when I was sick? 1965.5383 1471 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1965.5383 (pause 0.81) 1966.3507 1472 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1966.3507 That was the worst time. I had- when I had the appendix. [I was] so [sick.] 1970.4084 1473 DTA_int_08 1969.4797 [Uh-huh.] 1969.7499 1474 DTA_int_08 1969.7499 (pause 0.30) 1970.0464 1475 DTA_int_08 1970.0464 [Yeah.] 1970.2873 1476 DTA_int_08 1970.7786 [Uh-huh.] 1971.0660 1477 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1970.9556 [I] didn't want nobody to call my name, I was so sick. 1974.2209 1478 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1974.9563 I, uh, 1975.4666 1479 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1975.4666 (pause 0.31) 1975.7779 1480 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1975.7779 when I went to- 1977.1691 1481 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1977.1691 (pause 0.16) 1977.3248 1482 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1977.3248 to the doctor's hospital 1978.8267 1483 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1978.8267 (pause 0.47) 1979.2935 1484 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1979.2935 in Bessemer, 1980.1142 1485 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1980.1142 (pause 0.58) 1980.6970 1486 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1980.6970 and, uh, it take a lot of money there. And he told me it would take two hundred and fifty dollars. I needed a operation, I had appendicitis. 1987.8633 1487 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1987.8633 (pause 0.83) 1988.6962 1488 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1988.6962 Well they sent me there to the- the government hospital in Birmingham that was s- 1993.0822 1489 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1993.0822 (pause 0.45) 1993.5368 1490 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1993.5368 called, um, 1994.4277 1491 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1994.4277 (pause 2.09) 1996.5155 1492 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1996.5155 um. 1997.5376 1493 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1997.5376 (pause 0.39) 1997.9281 1494 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 1997.9281 Let me see what hospital- Hillman Hospital. 2000.0463 1495 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2000.0463 (pause 0.84) 2000.8823 1496 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2000.8823 And they take me there and they operated. The man examined me that night, the doctor examined me and told me 2006.1653 1497 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2006.1653 (pause 0.48) 2006.6474 1498 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2006.6474 th- that I had appendix and it had burst, and they had to operate on me that night. 2010.5139 1499 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2010.5139 (pause 0.84) 2011.3507 1500 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2011.3507 And they started putting blood in the one arm and 2014.1310 1501 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2014.1310 (pause 0.45) 2014.5795 1502 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2014.5795 they had s- something 2015.8518 1503 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2015.8518 (pause 0.25) 2016.0990 1504 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2016.0990 in a 2016.5993 1505 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2016.5993 (pause 0.28) 2016.8823 1506 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2016.8823 white-looking, like /water/. 2018.3484 1507 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2018.3484 (pause 1.35) 2019.6939 1508 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2019.6939 It was going in the other and I was just so sickly like I was 2022.9655 1509 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2022.9655 (pause 0.11) 2023.0761 1510 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2023.0761 sa- I was going off somewhere, looking like I was 2025.5069 1511 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2025.5069 (pause 0.57) 2026.0792 1512 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2026.0792 just floating or something I was so sick. 2028.1081 1513 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2028.1081 (pause 0.75) 2028.8587 1514 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2028.8587 That's the worst time. And then when they went to putting that tube in my nose, you know, 2032.8297 1515 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2032.8297 (pause 0.60) 2033.4338 1516 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2033.4338 I had to swallow the tube 2034.9411 1517 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2034.9411 (pause 0.17) 2035.1158 1518 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2035.1158 that night. 2035.7504 1519 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2035.7504 (pause 0.85) 2036.5986 1520 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2036.5986 And they got me on the operation table, I reckon about eight o'clock that morning. 2040.6909 1521 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2040.6909 (pause 1.14) 2041.8267 1522 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2041.8267 And they didn't put, um- 2043.2668 1523 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2043.2668 (pause 0.24) 2043.5048 1524 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2043.5048 get down baby. 2044.3385 1525 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2044.3385 (pause 1.15) 2045.4887 1526 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2045.4887 Get down. 2046.0074 1527 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2046.0074 (pause 2.15) 2048.1592 1528 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2048.1592 I didn't put a- uh, they didn't- 2049.8739 1529 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2049.8739 (pause 0.24) 2050.1097 1530 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2050.1097 nurses didn't fix everything right. 2052.4407 1531 DTA_int_08 2053.8053 2054.1684 1532 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2057.1470 Didn't fix 2057.7420 1533 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2057.7420 (pause 0.32) 2058.0623 1534 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2058.0623 thing right in that, uh, 2059.5063 1535 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2059.5063 (pause 0.55) 2060.0524 1536 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2060.0524 was gonna have, um, 2061.2027 1537 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2061.2027 (pause 0.13) 2061.3278 1538 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2061.3278 bottom up on the bed, you know, 2063.4399 1539 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2063.4399 (pause 0.73) 2064.1661 1540 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2064.1661 for that tube what was in my nose to go in. And she didn't have it fixed right, and it had just come boiling out my mouth. And it- whew. 2072.1074 1541 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2072.1074 (pause 0.22) 2072.3301 1542 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2072.3301 Look like I was gonna die. 2073.4864 1543 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2073.4864 (pause 1.37) 2074.8572 1544 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2074.8572 I just knowed I was going. 2076.4163 1545 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2076.4163 (pause 0.26) 2076.6787 1546 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2076.6787 Phase the way I was feeling, you know. 2078.6596 1547 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2078.6596 (pause 0.60) 2079.2637 1548 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2079.2637 I thought I couldn't be that sick and, you know, get, uh, 2082.0074 1549 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2082.0074 (pause 0.86) 2082.8709 1550 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2082.8709 up again. 2083.6527 1551 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2083.6527 (pause 0.68) 2084.3331 1552 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2084.3331 [I just] knowed I was /down/. 2085.7732 1553 DTA_int_08 2084.3331 [Mm-hm.] 2084.6688 1554 DTA_int_08 2086.2775 Mm-hm. 2086.5551 1555 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2087.1074 But I had told my daughter 2088.6611 1556 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2088.6611 (pause 0.13) 2088.7862 1557 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2088.7862 what's, 2089.1157 1558 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2089.1157 (pause 0.44) 2089.5551 1559 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2089.5551 um, 2090.0280 1560 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2090.0280 (pause 0.74) 2090.7664 1561 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2090.7664 uh. 2091.2729 1562 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2091.2729 (pause 0.34) 2091.6176 1563 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2091.6176 Sixteenth Street, not to let these girls up here know about me being sick and my son. 2097.2912 1564 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2097.2912 (pause 0.82) 2098.1127 1565 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2098.1127 And, uh, 2098.5765 1566 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2098.5765 (pause 0.22) 2098.7992 1567 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2098.7992 when I n- when I knowed anything, they was all walking in the hospital. 2102.5772 1568 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2102.5772 (pause 1.12) 2103.6970 1569 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2103.6970 And the nurse I was- had done got up then was in the- 2106.4864 1570 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2106.4864 (pause 0.14) 2106.6243 1571 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2106.6243 could go to the bathroom. The nurse come in there, 2108.9464 1572 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2108.9464 (pause 0.39) 2109.3379 1573 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2109.3379 said don't get frightened now. 2110.6955 1574 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2110.6955 (pause 1.47) 2112.1630 1575 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2112.1630 /put the-/ 2112.4460 1576 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2112.4460 (pause 2.99) 2115.4315 1577 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2115.4315 Told 'em not- me not to get frightened that my children had came, and they was all in the h- room. And I in the ward, and say when you walk in don't get frightened. 2125.4453 1578 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2125.4453 (pause 0.21) 2125.6558 1579 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2125.6558 Cause see I just had been operated, 2127.9061 1580 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2127.9061 (pause 0.80) 2128.7077 1581 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2128.7077 and so when I got in there I didn't get frightened, and my older daughter just fell out, went to crying. 2133.4590 1582 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2133.4590 (pause 0.27) 2133.7244 1583 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2133.7244 2134.0517 1584 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2134.0517 (pause 1.01) 2135.0585 1585 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2135.0585 And that kind of upset me a little bit, and I told her not to cry. I was alright, I feeling better. 2139.7446 1586 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2139.7446 (pause 1.48) 2141.2263 1587 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2141.2263 And that is the worst time I had, when, 2143.1279 1588 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2143.1279 (pause 0.36) 2143.4849 1589 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2143.4849 you know, 2143.8511 1590 DTA_int_08 2144.2446 Mm-hm. 2144.5059 1591 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2145.0318 of my /sickness/. 2145.9418 1592 DTA_int_08 2146.2042 Mm-hm. 2146.4553 1593 DTA_int_08 2146.4553 (pause 0.44) 2146.8968 1594 DTA_int_08 2146.8968 How about when people say 2148.4132 1595 DTA_int_08 2148.4132 (pause 0.42) 2148.8373 1596 DTA_int_08 2148.8373 if something's gonna happen to you, 2150.7481 1597 DTA_int_08 2150.7481 (pause 0.58) 2151.3278 1598 DTA_int_08 2151.3278 it's gonna happen anymore because God wants it. 2154.1551 1599 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2154.6054 [Mm-hm.] 2155.2819 1600 DTA_int_08 2154.8991 [What do you think] about that? 2156.0311 1601 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2158.2622 Well, um, 2159.2080 1602 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2159.2080 (pause 1.14) 2160.3491 1603 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2160.3491 I thinks- I thinks that's real true. 2162.8697 1604 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2162.8697 (pause 0.42) 2163.2912 1605 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2163.2912 Uh, but 2163.9571 1606 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2163.9571 (pause 0.25) 2164.2103 1607 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2164.2103 it look like to me 2165.5040 1608 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2165.5040 (pause 1.35) 2166.8525 1609 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2166.8525 just say whatever God do is for the 2169.1569 1610 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2169.1569 (pause 0.32) 2169.4803 1611 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2169.4803 best and things like that, you [know.] 2171.6108 1612 DTA_int_08 2171.3728 [Mm-hm.] 2171.7481 1613 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2173.5154 But just looking back 2174.8945 1614 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2174.8945 (pause 0.17) 2175.0623 1615 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2175.0623 when my little girl got burnt, 2176.7137 1616 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2176.7137 (pause 1.57) 2178.2850 1617 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2178.2850 that didn't have to be. Looked like 2179.9731 1618 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2179.9731 (pause 0.56) 2180.5284 1619 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2180.5284 uh- i- that would just something- it had just seemed like it was on my account. 2184.7885 1620 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2184.7885 (pause 0.64) 2185.4300 1621 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2185.4300 I just fault myself for it. 2187.1294 1622 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2187.1294 (pause 0.74) 2187.8708 1623 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2187.8708 It just hurt me so bad and everything I said, now. 2190.6573 1624 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2190.6573 (pause 0.87) 2191.5276 1625 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2191.5276 They say, well if, uh, 2192.8030 1626 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2192.8030 (pause 0.33) 2193.1325 1627 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2193.1325 you had just stayed at home, for it wouldn't had happened. 2195.9159 1628 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2195.9159 (pause 1.03) 2196.9502 1629 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2196.9502 /But/ If I had just stayed at home, that what it seem, I didn't stay at home. 2200.8175 1630 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2200.8175 (pause 0.50) 2201.3178 1631 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2201.3178 And- 2201.6792 1632 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2201.6792 (pause 0.16) 2201.8365 1633 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2201.8365 and- and it happened just seemed like I was supposed to, it didn't seem like God was in there. 2206.7351 1634 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2206.7351 (pause 1.07) 2207.8091 1635 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2207.8091 But I know he was, but you know, just, you know, I fault myself so deeply 2212.2042 1636 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2212.2042 (pause 0.82) 2213.0280 1637 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2213.0280 about that. 2213.7816 1638 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2213.7816 (pause 1.00) 2214.7793 1639 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2214.7793 And then my son, he came up to the house 2217.2240 1640 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2217.2240 (pause 1.03) 2218.2500 1641 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2218.2500 and told me that, um, 2219.4338 1642 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2219.4338 (pause 0.81) 2220.2454 1643 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2220.2454 he had some greens 2221.7198 1644 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2221.7198 (pause 0.60) 2222.3178 1645 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2222.3178 planted, and he'd 2223.4559 1646 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2223.4559 (pause 0.29) 2223.7457 1647 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2223.7457 pull up a big, 2224.8358 1648 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2224.8358 (pause 0.87) 2225.7084 1649 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2225.7084 uh, 2226.2911 1650 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2226.2911 (pause 0.15) 2226.4376 1651 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2226.4376 enough greens for me. And brought 'em up to the house and told me to cook 'em for Sunday dinner. 2231.3728 1652 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2231.3728 (pause 0.52) 2231.8884 1653 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2231.8884 And remember him when I eat 'em. You know 2234.2721 1654 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2234.2721 (pause 0.23) 2234.4979 1655 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2234.4979 the green? 2235.1325 1656 DTA_int_08 2235.3949 Mm-hm. 2235.6329 1657 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2235.6939 And so, uh, 2236.7442 1658 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2236.7442 (pause 0.13) 2236.8785 1659 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2236.8785 that Sunday he was drowned. The same Sunday. Then when- 2240.0310 1660 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2240.0310 (pause 0.51) 2240.5436 1661 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2240.5436 I couldn't cook the green, I would look at them greens and just fall out 2243.9158 1662 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2243.9158 (pause 0.29) 2244.2026 1663 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2244.2026 crying. 2244.7367 1664 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2244.7367 (pause 0.98) 2245.7137 1665 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2245.7137 That idea he brought them that Saturday and I had them all fresh, sprinkled with water, you know, I'd cook 'em just like he told. 2251.9064 1666 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2251.9064 (pause 0.59) 2252.4917 1667 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2252.4917 He said, eat these green and tell mama I wasn't at the house when he came. 2255.9677 1668 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2255.9677 (pause 0.77) 2256.7335 1669 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2256.7335 Eat the greens and then remember me. Just like that. And you know when 2260.5429 1670 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2260.5429 (pause 0.71) 2261.2507 1671 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2261.2507 I went to go in there to pick the greens, and- and a girl come- 2264.9341 1672 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2264.9341 (pause 0.63) 2265.5596 1673 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2265.5596 his wife and said, uh, 2266.9914 1674 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2266.9914 (pause 1.71) 2268.7000 1675 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2268.7000 my son had got drowned. 2270.1653 1676 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2270.1653 (pause 0.60) 2270.7663 1677 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2270.7663 And I said, what you say just like that? She say, oh, nothing he- e- uh, /RD-NAME-2/ has just got drowned a while ago. 2276.6565 1678 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2276.6565 (pause 0.59) 2277.2484 1679 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2277.2484 Just like it wasn't nothing. 2278.5337 1680 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2278.5337 (pause 1.52) 2280.0531 1681 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2280.0531 And then I thought that was the awfulest thing in the world 2282.7145 1682 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2282.7145 (pause 0.60) 2283.3125 1683 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2283.3125 to happen. 2283.7000 1684 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2283.7000 (pause 2.39) 2286.0867 1685 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2286.0867 I sure- 2287.4088 1686 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2287.4088 (pause 1.71) 2289.1233 1687 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2289.1233 2289.2728 1688 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2289.2728 (pause 0.34) 2289.6084 1689 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2289.6084 and see, 2290.7320 1690 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2290.7320 (pause 0.71) 2291.4429 1691 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2291.4429 now if he had stayed at home 2293.6924 1692 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2293.6924 (pause 0.39) 2294.0829 1693 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2294.0829 mm, he would- 2294.7053 1694 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2294.7053 (pause 0.53) 2295.2362 1695 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2295.2362 cause he went on a-swimming. He had done been swimming that morning. 2298.4925 1696 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2298.4925 (pause 1.79) 2300.2782 1697 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2300.2782 And came back 2301.0867 1698 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2301.0867 (pause 0.20) 2301.2820 1699 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2301.2820 and went back to swimming that evening. Some boys came, take him to swimming 2305.1432 1700 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2305.1432 (pause 0.61) 2305.7564 1701 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2305.7564 and he didn't wanna go, and said I done been in swimming. And she told him to go ahead, 2309.8273 1702 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2309.8273 (pause 0.59) 2310.4223 1703 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2310.4223 the boys came for you, now won't you go back. 2312.9286 1704 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2312.9286 (pause 0.74) 2313.6725 1705 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2313.6725 /That's it/. 2314.1889 1706 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2314.1889 (pause 0.40) 2314.5886 1707 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2314.5886 And he did never get back home. 2315.9982 1708 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2315.9982 (pause 1.94) 2317.9425 1709 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2317.9425 Uh, 2318.3239 1710 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2318.3239 (pause 1.73) 2320.0547 1711 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2320.0547 I believe in the Lord a- and everything like that, but you know, just look like 2324.5927 1712 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2324.5927 (pause 1.14) 2325.7366 1713 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2325.7366 things like that 2326.7656 1714 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2326.7656 (pause 0.69) 2327.4551 1715 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2327.4551 hm, I'm n- uh, 2328.3887 1716 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2328.3887 (pause 0.92) 2329.3079 1717 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2329.3079 just don't look like He- 2330.3056 1718 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2330.3056 (pause 0.92) 2331.2209 1719 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2331.2209 He would've suffered my little girl to get burned up like that. And- but they hasn't been any, I just 2336.2263 1720 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2336.2263 (pause 0.82) 2337.0470 1721 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2337.0470 it was the cause of that myself. 2338.7247 1722 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2338.7247 (pause 0.87) 2339.5924 1723 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2339.5924 Her leaving home. 2340.5560 1724 DTA_int_08 2342.3117 [Mm-hm.] 2342.5961 1725 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2342.4399 [I] shouldn't have went to see what the teacher say, unless I had taken her with. 2346.2301 1726 DTA_int_08 2348.8792 Mm-hm. 2349.2484 1727 DTA_int_08 2349.2484 (pause 1.04) 2350.2865 1728 DTA_int_08 2350.2865 Have you ever been in a car accident? 2352.2209 1729 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2352.4376 N- 2352.7030 1730 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2352.7030 (pause 0.23) 2352.9288 1731 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2352.9288 yeah. 2353.3750 1732 DTA_int_08 2353.7290 What happened? 2354.2703 1733 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2355.1233 I mean, 2355.9440 1734 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2355.9440 (pause 0.32) 2356.2591 1735 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2356.2591 this girl was 2357.2934 1736 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2357.2934 (pause 0.54) 2357.8334 1737 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2357.8334 taking me home from my younger son's house, and w- I was going home with her one night. And, uh, 2363.2324 1738 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2363.2324 (pause 0.97) 2364.2057 1739 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2364.2057 there 2364.7190 1740 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2364.7190 (pause 1.46) 2366.1836 1741 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2366.1836 a car, uh, sh- uh, was- it was raining, 2368.7930 1742 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2368.7930 (pause 0.56) 2369.3544 1743 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2369.3544 and they all stopped on the expressway. And, uh, the car hit 2372.7982 1744 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2372.7982 (pause 0.34) 2373.1355 1745 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2373.1355 on, uh- uh, the car in front of her stopped. 2376.1630 1746 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2376.1630 (pause 0.67) 2376.8342 1747 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2376.8342 And she went and couldn't stop by being slipping, and slipped onto that car. And it bucked my head, you know, and they had 2383.5306 1748 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2383.5306 (pause 0.42) 2383.9486 1749 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2383.9486 came into the hospital. And she want me to go with the police, and see, I was scared of the police cause I wasn't used to no police. 2390.4032 1750 DTA_int_08 2390.4032 Hm. 2390.5070 1751 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2391.2392 And I wouldn't get in the car with 'em. 2392.8371 1752 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2392.8371 (pause 0.28) 2393.1164 1753 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2393.1164 And she had to take me to the doctor the next day, cause I was scared to get in the car with the police to go to the, 2398.4543 1754 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2398.4543 (pause 1.22) 2399.6717 1755 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2399.6717 um, 2400.2392 1756 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2400.2392 (pause 2.28) 2402.5161 1757 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2402.5161 hospital. They wanted to take me to the receiving. 2405.4215 1758 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2405.4215 (pause 0.67) 2406.0928 1759 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2406.0928 They came to the car to get me out and I- I wouldn't go. 2409.2392 1760 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2409.2392 (pause 0.85) 2410.0852 1761 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2410.0852 And so 2410.7198 1762 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2410.7198 (pause 0.17) 2410.8876 1763 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2410.8876 she d- though- without hesitating she said, now I wouldn't have t- 2413.8754 1764 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2413.8754 (pause 0.45) 2414.3300 1765 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2414.3300 pay to take you to the doctor if you had just went on with the police. [] 2418.7068 1766 DTA_int_08 2418.4467 [Why were] you afraid of the police? 2420.0157 1767 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2420.1744 Well I wasn't u- you know, I was always used to 'em, you know, they beat up so many people down in the south that I didn't, you know, I just didn't wanna go with 'em, I just really didn't. 2428.5794 1768 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2428.5794 (pause 0.16) 2428.7442 1769 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2428.7442 I just- I was 2429.7543 1770 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2429.7543 (pause 0.64) 2430.3911 1771 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2430.3911 afraid. 2431.2103 1772 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2431.2103 (pause 0.92) 2432.1256 1773 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2432.1256 N- now I know my boy 2434.0835 1774 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2434.0835 (pause 0.35) 2434.4330 1775 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2434.4330 got arrested. 2435.2873 1776 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2435.2873 (pause 1.35) 2436.6389 1777 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2436.6389 And 2437.0943 1778 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2437.0943 (pause 1.30) 2438.3971 1779 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2438.3971 they came in the house 2439.9745 1780 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2439.9745 (pause 0.77) 2440.7411 1781 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2440.7411 that night, I was so scared I didn't know what to do. 2443.1492 1782 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2443.1492 (pause 0.54) 2443.6862 1783 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2443.6862 And they taking him on out and put him in jail. 2446.0333 1784 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2446.0333 (pause 1.81) 2447.8456 1785 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2447.8456 And I got up the next morning, I didn't know there was the police was in there. I, 2452.5032 1786 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2452.5032 (pause 0.17) 2452.6740 1787 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2452.6740 uh- I heard 'em talking 2454.5026 1788 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2454.5026 (pause 0.59) 2455.0974 1789 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2455.0974 and my son was here now, 2457.2514 1790 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2457.2514 (pause 0.30) 2457.5534 1791 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2457.5534 he was is in the /small/. 2458.9245 1792 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2458.9245 (pause 0.96) 2459.8883 1793 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2459.8883 And after stopped talking I said, who is all that talking in there? 2463.9204 1794 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2463.9204 (pause 0.13) 2464.0516 1795 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2464.0516 And the boy was scared to come in, tell me the police, and the boy was getting his clothes on. 2468.8456 1796 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2468.8456 (pause 0.79) 2469.6359 1797 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2469.6359 And he told 'em, they know I was easily frightened after my children got, 2473.4177 1798 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2473.4177 (pause 0.41) 2473.8235 1799 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2473.8235 oh, you know, my 2474.8700 1800 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2474.8700 (pause 0.21) 2475.0806 1801 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2475.0806 little girl got burned up, I was easily frightened. And he told 'em, please don't wake mama up. But I heard 'em 2480.6137 1802 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2480.6137 (pause 0.30) 2480.9158 1803 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2480.9158 but I thought it was some boys come in to see him. 2483.4764 1804 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2483.4764 (pause 0.64) 2484.1141 1805 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2484.1141 And I opened the door where the boy slept and- and a- 2487.2148 1806 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2487.2148 (pause 0.53) 2487.7457 1807 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2487.7457 asked where /??/- 2488.8083 1808 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2488.8083 (pause 0.39) 2489.1988 1809 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2489.1988 where's the oldest? 2490.3826 1810 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2490.3826 (pause 1.22) 2491.6038 1811 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2491.6038 And one of the boys said, the police got him and gone. 2494.3811 1812 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2494.3811 (pause 0.92) 2495.3025 1813 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2495.3025 And I went out 2496.1477 1814 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2496.1477 (pause 0.95) 2497.0943 1815 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2497.0943 I said, what was I doing, it was night. 2499.2789 1816 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2499.2789 (pause 0.44) 2499.7213 1817 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2499.7213 I k- I was scared to go by myself, and I came back to daylight. 2503.2438 1818 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2503.2438 (pause 0.77) 2504.0127 1819 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2504.0127 And then, uh, 2504.7419 1820 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2504.7419 (pause 0.24) 2504.9799 1821 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2504.9799 I went to call in the different jailhouses then. And I called /Lipton/, they said they didn't have him there. 2510.9433 1822 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2510.9433 (pause 0.82) 2511.7609 1823 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2511.7609 I called down in Bessemer, and they said th- they didn't have him there. 2515.0483 1824 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2515.0483 (pause 0.99) 2516.0432 1825 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2516.0432 I didn't know what to say then. 2517.6389 1826 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2517.6389 (pause 1.21) 2518.8449 1827 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2518.8449 And so then I called Birmingham, they had him in Big Rock. 2522.6656 1828 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2522.6656 (pause 0.42) 2523.0897 1829 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2523.0897 In Birmingham. 2523.9593 1830 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2523.9593 (pause 1.74) 2525.6961 1831 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2525.6961 And 2526.1690 1832 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2526.1690 (pause 0.24) 2526.4101 1833 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2526.4101 ooh, I didn't know what to do, so 2528.2598 1834 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2528.2598 (pause 0.31) 2528.5649 1835 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2528.5649 before he had went to the Army 2530.3079 1836 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2530.3079 (pause 0.76) 2531.0645 1837 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2531.0645 they, uh, put him in jail. 2532.6816 1838 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2532.6816 (pause 0.96) 2533.6435 1839 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2533.6435 And, uh, 2534.1683 1840 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2534.1683 (pause 1.11) 2535.2758 1841 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2535.2758 when he went to go to the Army 2537.0188 1842 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2537.0188 (pause 0.81) 2537.8243 1843 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2537.8243 I had got a lawyer, and I went to the lawyer and I told him he had to go to the Army. Once he go, or what must he do, you know, and the lawyer told me let him go head home. Probably in two years, if you stay two year 2548.3719 1844 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2548.3719 (pause 0.48) 2548.8549 1845 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2548.8549 there was a- just a small case, they'd throw it out. 2552.0127 1846 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2552.0127 (pause 1.26) 2553.2697 1847 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2553.2697 And so, um, 2554.3475 1848 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2554.3475 (pause 1.11) 2555.4612 1849 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2555.4612 when- I didn't know nothing to do but to go back to that lawyer, when l- when I hear that- to find out the had him in Big Rock. And I went to the lawyer 2562.9165 1850 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2562.9165 (pause 0.78) 2563.7015 1851 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2563.7015 and I said, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/- Mr. 2566.1492 1852 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2566.1492 (pause 0.29) 2566.4391 1853 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2566.4391 /RD-NAME-3/- 2567.3910 1854 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2567.3910 (pause 0.29) 2567.6771 1855 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2567.6771 Mr. /RD-NAME-3/. 2568.3338 1856 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2568.3338 (pause 0.48) 2568.8158 1857 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2568.8158 I said, 2569.5825 1858 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2569.5825 (pause 0.67) 2570.2537 1859 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2570.2537 they got my son this morning. I said, they got him in Big Rock. I said, uh, 2574.4070 1860 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2574.4070 (pause 1.00) 2575.4116 1861 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2575.4116 2575.4940 1862 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2575.4940 (pause 0.12) 2575.6099 1863 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2575.6099 what must I do? What- why they got him? What- what's wrong you reckon? And guess what, 2579.9798 1864 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2579.9798 (pause 0.38) 2580.3612 1865 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2580.3612 he said, I had him picked up. 2581.7259 1866 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2581.7259 (pause 0.38) 2582.1011 1867 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2582.1011 I had him picked up. I said, you had him picked up? He said, 2584.9303 1868 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2584.9303 (pause 0.39) 2585.3239 1869 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2585.3239 yes see I told you to bring me money the whole time he was in the Army. 2588.9615 1870 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2588.9615 (pause 0.67) 2589.6297 1871 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2589.6297 I was getting a little check, you know, from my 2591.7175 1872 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2591.7175 (pause 0.33) 2592.0439 1873 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2592.0439 husband's social security. 2593.5611 1874 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2593.5611 (pause 0.72) 2594.2842 1875 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2594.2842 And he said, I told you to bring me money every month, you know, when you take him to the Army and you didn't do it, so. 2599.7381 1876 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2599.7381 (pause 0.69) 2600.4246 1877 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2600.4246 Y- 2600.6168 1878 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2600.6168 (pause 0.15) 2600.7693 1879 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2600.7693 uh, you gotta- 2601.7823 1880 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2601.7823 (pause 0.29) 2602.0729 1881 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2602.0729 to pay me. 2602.9059 1882 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2602.9059 (pause 0.60) 2603.5100 1883 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2603.5100 I said, why do I have to pay you for the- 2605.3445 1884 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2605.3445 (pause 0.40) 2605.7442 1885 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2605.7442 um, 2606.2567 1886 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2606.2567 (pause 1.07) 2607.3246 1887 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2607.3246 lawyer /RD-NAME-3/. 2608.3201 1888 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2608.3201 (pause 0.22) 2608.5428 1889 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2608.5428 I said, what I have to pay you for? 2610.1599 1890 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2610.1599 (pause 0.61) 2610.7670 1891 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2610.7670 He said, 2611.3109 1892 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2611.3109 (pause 0.53) 2611.8418 1893 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2611.8418 because, uh, said, um, 2613.5962 1894 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2613.5962 (pause 0.37) 2613.9684 1895 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2613.9684 I didn't let that trial go through. 2615.7754 1896 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2615.7754 (pause 0.41) 2616.1812 1897 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2616.1812 And that's why you got to pay me. 2617.6557 1898 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2617.6557 (pause 2.07) 2619.7274 1899 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2619.7274 I said, well I ain't got no money now. 2621.7663 1900 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2621.7663 (pause 1.13) 2622.8982 1901 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2622.8982 He said- I said, what must I do? 2624.7456 1902 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2624.7456 (pause 0.40) 2625.1446 1903 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2625.1446 He said, go down there to Big Rock and bust your dern brains out. 2628.1873 1904 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2628.1873 (pause 0.40) 2628.5840 1905 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2628.5840 2628.9997 1906 DTA_int_08 2629.3445 [Mm-hm.] 2629.6478 1907 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2629.5519 [Against] the wall. 2630.3605 1908 DTA_int_08 2630.9432 Hm. 2631.1171 1909 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2631.3124 That's what you do. 2632.1614 1910 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2632.1614 (pause 1.35) 2633.5069 1911 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2633.5069 Ooh, I- it hurt me so bad I- I went to crying, and I turn around and started walking on down to- 2639.2049 1912 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2639.2049 (pause 0.64) 2639.8486 1913 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2639.8486 to the courthouse 2640.6236 1914 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2640.6236 (pause 0.69) 2641.3109 1915 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2641.3109 crying and praying. 2642.8639 1916 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2642.8639 (pause 0.63) 2643.4894 1917 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2643.4894 I just praying just like 2644.9821 1918 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2644.9821 (pause 0.60) 2645.5832 1919 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2645.5832 /unintelligible/. Lord help me, I don't know what to do. I ain't got no money, m- they got my son. I just praying all the way to- 2652.5931 1920 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2652.5931 (pause 0.84) 2653.4360 1921 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2653.4360 to Big Rock. And I didn't know just how the goes, it's a good ways from downtown, you know. 2658.2697 1922 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2658.2697 (pause 0.86) 2659.1309 1923 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2659.1309 And I asked a man, show me where- just where the jail was- uh, 2663.1774 1924 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2663.1774 (pause 0.69) 2663.8700 1925 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2663.8700 courthouse. And he 2664.8097 1926 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2664.8097 (pause 0.22) 2665.0302 1927 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2665.0302 showed me, and I went on up there, went up, 2666.9646 1928 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2666.9646 (pause 0.65) 2667.6175 1929 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2667.6175 when I got in the courthouse, 2669.4337 1930 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2669.4337 (pause 0.37) 2669.7998 1931 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2669.7998 my son was sitting off in the front, you know, in- o- on the bench. 2673.1293 1932 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2673.1293 (pause 1.54) 2674.6709 1933 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2674.6709 And they was having some more trials. 2676.9654 1934 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2676.9654 (pause 0.62) 2677.5885 1935 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2677.5885 And so 2678.1835 1936 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2678.1835 (pause 1.08) 2679.2682 1937 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2679.2682 I was sitting there just crying, still crying and praying. I see him, he never did see me. 2684.2110 1938 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2684.2110 (pause 0.30) 2684.5130 1939 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2684.5130 And I was just crying. 2685.6145 1940 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2685.6145 (pause 0.60) 2686.2133 1941 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2686.2133 And after a while they said /RD-NAME-5/ case. Just like that. 2689.8601 1942 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2689.8601 (pause 0.95) 2690.8120 1943 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2690.8120 And the jury said, 2691.9287 1944 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2691.9287 (pause 2.12) 2694.0500 1945 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2694.0500 this 2694.3978 1946 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2694.3978 (pause 0.15) 2694.5504 1947 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2694.5504 case is pronounced SES. Something like that, you know. 2697.9875 1948 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2697.9875 (pause 0.70) 2698.6923 1949 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2698.6923 That means, um, I didn't know what the word meant but they told me that meant they'd throw it out. 2703.6663 1950 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2703.6663 (pause 1.98) 2705.6442 1951 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2705.6442 See the Lord heard my prayer, I said. 2707.7045 1952 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2707.7045 (pause 0.29) 2707.9913 1953 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2707.9913 I didn't have no money. 2709.1537 1954 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2709.1537 (pause 0.31) 2709.4649 1955 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2709.4649 I didn't have nothing, I didn't know what to do. And that's what the lawyer told me, to do. 2713.3414 1956 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2713.3414 (pause 1.03) 2714.3757 1957 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2714.3757 To go down there and bust my brains out. 2716.2072 1958 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2716.2072 (pause 0.52) 2716.7228 1959 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2716.7228 And I didn't know what to do. 2718.0042 1960 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2718.0042 (pause 0.68) 2718.6877 1961 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2718.6877 And I just prayed, I just give up going down there. I said, Lord he in your hand, I'm in you hand, I ain't got nothing. 2724.3429 1962 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2724.3429 (pause 0.20) 2724.5412 1963 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2724.5412 I said, Lord please don't let 'em lock my boy up. 2727.0073 1964 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2727.0073 (pause 1.05) 2728.0546 1965 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2728.0546 I said, 2728.5458 1966 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2728.5458 (pause 0.62) 2729.1621 1967 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2729.1621 I ain't got no money to even bond and take him home with me. I said, I don't know what to do. 2733.4131 1968 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2733.4131 (pause 1.24) 2734.6557 1969 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2734.6557 I said, I'm in your hand now. Just l- just walking around, praying like that. 2738.4276 1970 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2738.4276 (pause 0.14) 2738.5649 1971 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2738.5649 To the Lord, just loud, nobody but me in the- 2740.7167 1972 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2740.7167 (pause 0.27) 2740.9852 1973 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2740.9852 in the- til I met the man s- 2742.4161 1974 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2742.4161 (pause 0.38) 2742.7914 1975 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2742.7914 showed me how to go. 2743.7258 1976 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2743.7258 (pause 0.51) 2744.2354 1977 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2744.2354 And when the judge said that 2745.9874 1978 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2745.9874 (pause 0.98) 2746.9699 1979 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2746.9699 he said, boy. Said, uh- 2748.5443 1980 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2748.5443 (pause 0.78) 2749.3200 1981 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2749.3200 called him boy, just like that, didn't call him his name. He said, 2752.0353 1982 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2752.0353 (pause 0.74) 2752.7746 1983 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2752.7746 /RD-NAME-5/ case. And then the jury got up and said the case was pronounced, SES, something like that. 2758.7716 1984 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2758.7716 (pause 0.69) 2759.4642 1985 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2759.4642 And stood up, said, there ain't nobody here against him or nothing. He said, he- he didn't have no- wasn't nobody there but him. 2766.1873 1986 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2766.1873 (pause 0.97) 2767.1553 1987 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2767.1553 And so 2767.7838 1988 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2767.7838 (pause 1.31) 2769.0927 1989 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2769.0927 2769.1964 1990 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2769.1964 (pause 0.19) 2769.3887 1991 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2769.3887 uh, he said, uh, 2770.5672 1992 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2770.5672 (pause 0.68) 2771.2476 1993 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2771.2476 boy you got any money? 2772.6083 1994 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2772.6083 (pause 0.33) 2772.9409 1995 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2772.9409 To go back to Bessemer, you got your fair? 2774.5679 1996 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2774.5679 (pause 0.46) 2775.0256 1997 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2775.0256 And some of the- 2776.2712 1998 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2776.2712 (pause 0.15) 2776.4207 1999 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2776.4207 the, um, 2777.1682 2000 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2777.1682 (pause 0.95) 2778.1141 2001 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2778.1141 the mens was sitting up there on the 2779.6479 2002 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2779.6479 (pause 0.50) 2780.1438 2003 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2780.1438 /bench/, like that, uh, 2781.5675 2004 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2781.5675 (pause 2.46) 2784.0317 2005 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2784.0317 what the mans is? [s- /inaudible/.] 2785.5156 2006 DTA_int_08 2784.9966 [The jury?] 2785.5945 2007 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2785.7014 Mm-hm. 2786.2842 2008 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2786.2842 (pause 0.22) 2786.5038 2009 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2786.5038 Some of 'em had done gave him fifty cent. 2788.5641 2010 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2788.5641 (pause 0.96) 2789.5282 2011 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2789.5282 And he 2790.0805 2012 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2790.0805 (pause 0.20) 2790.2819 2013 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2790.2819 didn't never see me, he just went on out and run, you know, just as fast as he could go. 2794.3139 2014 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2794.3139 (pause 0.40) 2794.7106 2015 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2794.7106 And I run around to get the the elevator to catch him, you know. 2797.7655 2016 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2797.7655 (pause 0.91) 2798.6777 2017 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2798.6777 After 2799.1293 2018 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2799.1293 (pause 0.19) 2799.3185 2019 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2799.3185 some of 'em told me, your son case i- is thrown out, lady. 2802.8250 2020 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2802.8250 (pause 0.23) 2803.0515 2021 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2803.0515 The lady who was next to me. 2804.4520 2022 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2804.4520 (pause 0.49) 2804.9401 2023 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2804.9401 And I just got up to overtake him, he had done caught the first elevator and gone. 2809.1064 2024 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2809.1064 (pause 0.38) 2809.4909 2025 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2809.4909 And I met Mr. lawyer /RD-NAME-3/ 2811.4741 2026 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2811.4741 (pause 0.99) 2812.4665 2027 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2812.4665 just as I s- went to step 2814.0927 2028 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2814.0927 (pause 0.41) 2814.5076 2029 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2814.5076 on the 2814.9867 2030 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2814.9867 (pause 0.55) 2815.5336 2031 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2815.5336 elevator, he stepped out. 2817.2239 2032 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2817.2239 (pause 0.86) 2818.0790 2033 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2818.0790 And he said, 2818.8936 2034 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2818.8936 (pause 0.11) 2819.0035 2035 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2819.0035 hey give me fifty dollar. 2820.3093 2036 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2820.3093 (pause 0.33) 2820.6419 2037 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2820.6419 Give me fifty dollar, that's what he told me. 2822.6490 2038 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2822.6490 (pause 0.56) 2823.2056 2039 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2823.2056 I said, fifty dollars? 2824.4995 2040 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2824.4995 (pause 1.25) 2825.7543 2041 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2825.7543 He said, yeah give me fifty dollars, see what I done? I done had your boy turned loose. 2829.6779 2042 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2829.6779 (pause 0.53) 2830.2031 2043 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2830.2031 Just like that. 2830.9064 2044 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2830.9064 (pause 2.00) 2832.9079 2045 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2832.9079 I said, no sir, you did not have my 2835.1848 2046 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2835.1848 (pause 0.37) 2835.5510 2047 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2835.5510 boy turned loose. I said, God had him turned loose. 2837.9560 2048 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2837.9560 (pause 0.92) 2838.8713 2049 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2838.8713 I said, that's what had him turned loose. 2840.6479 2050 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2840.6479 (pause 0.37) 2841.0201 2051 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2841.0201 And walked around him, got on that elevator. And I ain't seen him since. 2844.3679 2052 DTA_int_08 2844.5357 Yeah. 2844.8927 2053 DTA_se2_ag4_f_02 2845.6433 2846.3721 2054 DTA_int_08 2846.3805 Mm-hm. 2846.6998