Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_03 0.9101 Okay. 1.4355 2 DTA_int_03 1.4355 (pause 0.57) 2.0078 3 DTA_int_03 2.0078 Let's check and make sure this thing's going. 3.9163 4 DTA_int_03 3.9163 (pause 0.95) 4.8704 5 DTA_int_03 4.8704 Alright. 5.1940 6 DTA_int_03 5.1940 (pause 0.49) 5.6826 7 DTA_int_03 5.6826 Uh, 6.0429 8 DTA_int_03 6.0429 (pause 1.34) 7.3804 9 DTA_int_03 7.3804 would you like to 8.0108 10 DTA_int_03 8.0108 (pause 0.12) 8.1269 11 DTA_int_03 8.1269 talk to me about games you used to play when you were a kid? 11.0811 12 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 11.9941 Well I played, uh, 13.4001 13 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 13.4001 (pause 1.42) 14.8170 14 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 14.8170 a little bit of basketball. 17.0237 15 DTA_int_03 17.0719 [Uh-huh.] 17.2734 16 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 17.2211 [And] then I played- uh, I played quite a bit of softball. 20.2521 17 DTA_int_03 20.4902 Uh-huh. 20.8110 18 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 21.0185 I played on a 21.8552 19 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 21.8552 (pause 0.37) 22.2252 20 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 22.2252 team, which I was the only 23.7895 21 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 23.7895 (pause 1.19) 24.9804 22 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 24.9804 colored 25.4628 23 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 25.4628 (pause 0.42) 25.8856 24 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 25.8856 on the team. 26.8261 25 DTA_int_03 27.0704 [Mm-hm.] 27.3513 26 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 27.3208 [And] 28.0750 27 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 29.1085 this team was sponsored by the man which I worked for, for over twenty years. I worked for that man out of /RD-WORK-7/. 34.9956 28 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 34.9956 (pause 0.17) 35.1635 29 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 35.1635 [I worked] there for [twenty year.] 36.3513 30 DTA_int_03 35.1635 [Mm-hm.] 35.4784 31 DTA_int_03 35.4784 (pause 0.45) 35.9238 32 DTA_int_03 35.9238 [Were you at] /RD-WORK-2/? 36.5928 33 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 37.3071 I wasn't going to /RD-WORK-2/, [I was] working 39.5739 34 DTA_int_03 38.5372 [Oh.] 38.6794 35 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 39.7422 p- at the store there. [And,] 41.4936 36 DTA_int_03 41.1147 [Mm-hm.] 41.3559 37 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 42.1467 I worked for that man for twenty years and 44.3337 38 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 44.3337 (pause 0.25) 44.5849 39 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 44.5849 saw I played quite a good, uh, 45.8491 40 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 45.8491 (pause 0.37) 46.2216 41 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 46.2216 baseball there with them. 47.6063 42 DTA_int_03 47.9757 Mm-hm. 48.2702 43 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 48.8185 And, uh, that's about all the games- other than, 51.9071 44 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 51.9071 (pause 0.35) 52.2521 45 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 52.2521 like kid games. Hide and go seek and that kind of [stuff,] and those kind of things [/I played/.] 57.4307 46 DTA_int_03 55.1575 [Mm-hm.] 55.3984 47 DTA_int_03 55.3984 (pause 1.72) 57.1192 48 DTA_int_03 57.1192 [Did you] play hide and go seek? 58.2765 49 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 58.5514 Oh, yes. Hide and go seek and, 60.5323 50 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 60.5323 (pause 0.68) 61.2155 51 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 61.2155 uh, 61.9345 52 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 61.9345 (pause 0.26) 62.1971 53 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 62.1971 post office, and all of those. Don't you- uh, do you know anything about those kind of games? [] 67.4459 54 DTA_int_03 67.1522 [Oh,] yeah. [] 69.2536 55 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 67.8490 [ And all of 'em.] 69.2261 56 DTA_int_03 69.6383 How did you play hide and go seek? 70.9894 57 DTA_int_03 70.9894 (pause 0.11) 71.1024 58 DTA_int_03 71.1024 What did you say? 71.8200 59 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 71.9177 Uh, well we'd say, 73.7818 60 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 73.7818 (pause 0.99) 74.7742 61 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 74.7742 uh, wa- 75.9590 62 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 75.9590 (pause 1.19) 77.1513 63 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 77.1513 one, two, three, 78.4093 64 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 78.4093 (pause 1.58) 79.9864 65 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 79.9864 All everybody hid? 81.0027 66 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 81.0027 (pause 1.21) 82.2155 67 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 82.2155 Here I come, both eyes open, [and, uh. ] 86.3436 68 DTA_int_03 84.4429 [/inaudible/] 85.4602 69 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 86.7956 Then we'd started looking for one, and, of course naturally when 90.0137 70 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 90.0137 (pause 0.38) 90.3941 71 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 90.3941 you saw one, you say, one two three, and so and so. 92.7742 72 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 92.7742 (pause 0.35) 93.1223 73 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 93.1223 And then you got to go back and touch the 94.8215 74 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 94.8215 (pause 0.19) 95.0077 75 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 95.0077 place where you was, 96.1864 76 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 96.1864 (pause 0.38) 96.5651 77 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 96.5651 uh, 97.1666 78 DTA_int_03 97.8856 Place where you were? 98.4788 79 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 98.4139 where you there hiding at, you know where he was counting from, see. 101.1390 80 DTA_int_03 101.5726 Yeah. [Now, what's] that called, that place? 103.7787 81 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 101.8169 [And.] 102.0734 82 DTA_int_03 104.7009 Any [special name?] 105.5499 83 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 104.9818 [You know, now I've] forgot that- th- uh, n- we didn't- I don't believe we gave it any name, we just, like- we'd pick out a tree like that tree setting out there, and we didn't call it nothing. But that's 113.8414 84 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 114.1880 where you'd have to run back to, to touch that, uh, 116.3222 85 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 116.3222 (pause 0.56) 116.8810 86 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 116.8810 when you found one. And 118.4170 87 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 118.4170 (pause 0.48) 118.9009 88 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 118.9009 to keep him from getting home on you- oh, they call that [home.] 121.9340 89 DTA_int_03 121.7515 [They call] it home? 122.4077 90 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 122.5146 [That's] right. 123.0520 91 DTA_int_03 122.7131 [/?/] 122.8688 92 DTA_int_03 123.0673 What did they call it when he beat you back there? 125.2978 93 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 125.7223 [Uh, yeah-] uh, well he went free. 128.0199 94 DTA_int_03 125.8627 [And he got away?] 126.7024 95 DTA_int_03 128.2428 He [got free?] 128.6013 96 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 128.3314 [He's] home free. [I'm home] free. Yeah, he's home free. (laughing) 131.2795 97 DTA_int_03 129.2780 [Uh-huh.] 129.5070 98 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 131.6429 So he didn't have to- 132.9589 99 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 132.9589 (pause 0.24) 133.2002 100 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 133.2002 he d- he didn't- he was home free. 135.0050 101 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 135.0050 (pause 0.09) 135.0948 102 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 135.0948 He was [out of it.] 135.8918 103 DTA_int_03 135.5465 [Mm-hm.] 135.7879 104 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 136.2154 Mm-hm. 136.5391 105 DTA_int_03 137.1635 [Uh,] how did you- 138.2566 106 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 137.2154 [Yeah.] 137.3925 107 DTA_int_03 138.6127 let's see. 139.0353 108 DTA_int_03 139.0353 (pause 0.20) 139.2399 109 DTA_int_03 139.2399 Did you ever play marbles? 140.2789 110 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 140.7161 Oh, yeah. That's the one game I forgot. Why yes, I played marbles [/actually/.] 144.7897 111 DTA_int_03 144.2322 [You good at marbles?] 145.0101 112 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 145.3193 W- yeah- well, I was pretty good at marbles. We played, uh, 147.9559 113 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 147.9559 (pause 0.67) 148.6277 114 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 148.6277 of course we'd slip and do let's play for keeps, so you see, yeah that's- see, our parents thought we'd play for fun, but we'd get around and hide and 155.7955 115 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 155.7955 (pause 0.68) 156.4795 116 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 156.4795 we'd play for keeps. We had agates, onyx, and agate was the top marble- uh, marble. [It was] the best, see. And 163.1727 117 DTA_int_03 161.6948 [Uh-huh.] 161.9635 118 DTA_int_03 163.1727 Did you have a s- 163.6291 119 DTA_int_03 163.6291 (pause 0.12) 163.7451 120 DTA_int_03 163.7451 a nickname for those? The [agates?] 165.1937 121 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 164.9848 [No,] no nickname. It was just- I had a- just an agate and, uh, a onyx. 168.8103 122 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 169.0292 And then the others 170.3092 123 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 170.3092 (pause 0.92) 171.2291 124 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 171.2291 which was made of, uh, crock. The- it was called 174.2871 125 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 174.2871 (pause 0.11) 174.3971 126 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 174.3971 /marble/ 174.9587 127 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 174.9587 (pause 0.21) 175.1727 128 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 175.1727 [and,] the agates and onyx /was/ look like glass there. 177.8589 129 DTA_int_03 175.1971 [Mm-hm.] 175.4685 130 DTA_int_03 178.1527 [Yeah.] 178.3054 131 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 178.1574 [The agate] though, it was very hard. I don't know what it was made out of, but it was almost like a pearl. It was very hard, ju- you could- you couldn't hardly find one. 186.2291 132 DTA_int_03 186.7116 [Yeah.] 186.9956 133 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 186.9620 [And] when you got one, oh, boy it is worth something to you. It's /weight/ in marbles, you'd get a whole hand full of marble if you 192.7095 134 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 192.8387 found one, see. 193.4658 135 DTA_int_03 193.6871 Yeah. 193.9788 136 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 194.1573 And, uh, we [had-] 194.9573 137 DTA_int_03 194.8199 [Did] you ever play with your agates when you were playing for keeps? 197.4138 138 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 197.7314 Yeah. Oh, yeah. 198.7452 139 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 198.7452 (pause 0.46) 199.2044 140 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 199.2044 But you'd have to have an agate to put against mine, see, and [a good] one. And, yeah, oh. And, uh, th- [play] with the agates for keep and- (laughing) 206.9665 141 DTA_int_03 202.1069 [Ah.] 202.3957 142 DTA_int_03 202.3957 (pause 2.76) 205.1574 143 DTA_int_03 205.1574 [] 205.6016 144 DTA_int_03 207.5650 Yeah. 207.9902 145 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 208.0414 Oh, we'd get broke 209.4627 146 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 209.4627 (pause 0.12) 209.5848 147 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 209.5848 sometimes though you'd wanna fight, but, uh, it wasn't in the game back there then, of course 214.1116 148 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 214.1116 (pause 0.39) 214.5024 149 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 214.5024 the- 215.0291 150 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 215.0291 (pause 0.56) 215.5909 151 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 215.5909 back there then, 216.5009 152 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 216.5009 (pause 1.10) 217.5971 153 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 217.5971 I think they're- 218.6703 154 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 218.6703 (pause 0.72) 219.3909 155 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 219.3909 they played more sociable than they do now. They- they- 223.4444 156 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 223.4444 (pause 0.51) 223.9558 157 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 223.9558 in other words, you was more of a sport. You either win or lost, you just lost. That's all. And 228.1445 158 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 228.1445 (pause 0.39) 228.5375 159 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 228.5375 you take kids playing now, I- the way I see it now they get out here and if I lose then I'm ready to fight, cause I ain't gonna let you have it. [] And [that's it.] 234.8032 160 DTA_int_03 234.4612 [Yeah.] 234.7543 161 DTA_int_03 235.7603 No [sporting.] 236.5845 162 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 236.5023 [Mm-hm.] No sport to it. There's no [joy.] 238.6351 163 DTA_int_03 238.5008 [How] did you play? 239.2703 164 DTA_int_03 239.6398 Did you have a- 240.2783 165 DTA_int_03 240.2783 (pause 0.31) 240.5925 166 DTA_int_03 240.5925 a [line?] 241.1611 167 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 241.1146 [Well] you have a s- you have a circle. 243.7054 168 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 243.8917 You make a circle that you put the marble in. 246.2291 169 DTA_int_03 246.3543 Mm-hm. 246.6902 170 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 246.9772 The marbles in where how many of youse playing and, 249.8459 171 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 249.8459 (pause 0.20) 250.0505 172 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 250.0505 uh, whatever the stakes was. So [you could be] one, two, three, or what. 254.3069 173 DTA_int_03 252.1314 [Mm-hm.] 252.4231 174 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 255.3207 And then you draw a line back here, the- 257.5512 175 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 257.5512 (pause 0.56) 258.1100 176 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 258.1100 what would they call that line? We call that line- 260.1420 177 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 260.1420 (pause 1.54) 261.6841 178 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 261.6841 now there was space /??/ so forth. That's where you had to shoot from. 264.6993 179 DTA_int_03 264.8734 What did you shoot with? [Your?] 266.1107 180 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 266.0168 [I] use- I u- usually I had a 268.3406 181 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 268.5787 good, 268.9496 182 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 268.9496 (pause 0.37) 269.3191 183 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 269.3191 uh, onyx I'd shoot. I didn't use the agate, [see.] 271.8916 184 DTA_int_03 271.2931 [/You said/ what?] 271.8198 185 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 272.0351 The onyx 272.6000 186 DTA_int_03 272.8871 [Uh-huh.] 273.0554 187 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 272.8993 [marble. That's what it's called, I- good onyx. Good sized one. 275.3510 188 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 275.9939 And you see, you would have to what- 277.3929 189 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 277.3929 (pause 0.11) 277.5006 190 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 277.5006 whatchu knocked out of there, that's what you won. What you knocked out of that ring when you shot 281.2423 191 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 281.2423 (pause 0.14) 281.3787 192 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 281.3787 in there, that's what- that's what you got. That's [whatchu won.] 284.2153 193 DTA_int_03 283.8092 [Did you have] a special name for a big marble? 285.7339 194 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 286.7603 Uh, no I don't believe. I don't ever recall having a special name for a larger [one. No.] 292.0780 195 DTA_int_03 291.7437 [What about] 292.0841 196 DTA_int_03 292.2690 for the one you shot with? 293.5212 197 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 293.9817 And the one- that one- we'd just hit it and that was one that I used it as my shooting 298.3070 198 DTA_int_03 298.5014 [Yeah.] 298.6840 199 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 298.6473 [uh,] 299.1634 200 DTA_int_03 299.0870 [It's] your shooting [marble.] 300.1602 201 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 299.6275 [shooting m-] marble. Yes. W- one I shoot with, that's the only /unintelligible/. 303.1680 202 DTA_int_03 303.6840 [What do] call the line that you shot from? 305.7344 203 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 303.8428 [/?/] 303.9863 204 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 305.7802 That's what I was trying to think of a while ago, what we called that line. And that's where we got back to. And I can't think of any name we called it, we'd just 312.2779 205 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 312.2779 (pause 0.15) 312.4245 206 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 312.4245 space it off and draw 313.5740 207 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 313.5740 (pause 0.27) 313.8427 208 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 313.8427 one on each side of the- 315.1313 209 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 315.1313 (pause 1.10) 316.2276 210 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 316.2276 the ring. And 317.2916 211 DTA_int_03 317.5389 Mm-hm. 317.7619 212 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 317.8016 you was in 318.6099 213 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 318.6099 (pause 0.33) 318.9375 214 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 318.9375 /?/- 319.0291 215 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 319.0291 (pause 1.29) 320.3221 216 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 320.3221 if- a- and that's where you 321.5039 217 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 321.5039 (pause 0.27) 321.7787 218 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 321.7787 started to shoot from. But if you happened to shoot and and your marble rolled beyond the other line on the other side, that's where you shot from. 328.0169 219 DTA_int_03 328.2031 Mm-hm. 328.5166 220 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 328.6031 And I can't think of what we called this line. I don't know whether we had a name for it, now [or not.] 332.4915 221 DTA_int_03 332.0609 [I called] it a tall line. 333.5339 222 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 334.0627 It could be, maybe [it w-] but I [don't r- y- yeah.] I don't remember whether we called it that or not. Mm-hm. 340.4291 223 DTA_int_03 335.3185 [Oh.] 335.5507 224 DTA_int_03 335.5507 (pause 0.78) 336.3329 225 DTA_int_03 336.3329 [But you'd remember it if that /was it/.] 337.7324 226 DTA_int_03 341.2916 Uh, 341.5818 227 DTA_int_03 341.5818 (pause 0.16) 341.7405 228 DTA_int_03 341.7405 did you ever- 342.4458 229 DTA_int_03 342.4458 (pause 0.69) 343.1359 230 DTA_int_03 343.1359 let's see. 343.5465 231 DTA_int_03 343.5465 (pause 0.44) 343.9832 232 DTA_int_03 343.9832 The girls would, but did you guys ever jump rope? 346.3603 233 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 346.8183 Oh, yeah. I jumped with the girls. I played with the girls, just like I did with the boys. I was a, 351.2077 234 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 351.2077 (pause 0.59) 351.8000 235 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 351.8000 uh, in fact, uh, 353.2000 236 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 353.2000 (pause 0.12) 353.3191 237 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 353.3191 yeah we'd jump rope and- of all kind, and- by ourself and then 357.0550 238 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 357.0550 (pause 0.23) 357.2840 239 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 357.2840 three or four of us 358.1751 240 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 358.1751 (pause 0.43) 358.6045 241 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 358.6045 takes the rope. 359.0595 242 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 359.0595 (pause 0.24) 359.2946 243 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 359.2946 One get a long rope /and I spent time here/ and I jump [rope. Uh.] 361.9007 244 DTA_int_03 361.6442 [Did you ever] use two ropes? 362.7649 245 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 363.1405 No, never did. 364.1665 246 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 364.1665 (pause 0.49) 364.6595 247 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 364.6595 [Nah.] 365.0290 248 DTA_int_03 364.9007 [Uh.] 365.1572 249 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 365.2977 What you mean? Two ropes that t- 366.9741 250 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 366.9741 (pause 0.52) 367.4962 251 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 367.4962 that- 367.8280 252 DTA_int_03 367.8488 Jump [together.] 368.5175 253 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 368.2916 [n- no.] Never did. No, never did use two ropes. We never did use th- use two rope like that. 372.7115 254 DTA_int_03 373.2581 [What did you] say when you jumped rope? 374.7192 255 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 373.3633 [What-] 373.5190 256 DTA_int_03 375.1741 [With the long rope.] 375.9995 257 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 375.2565 [Mm-hm. There- with the long rope?] 376.8946 258 DTA_int_03 377.2885 Did you say [anything special?] 378.6107 259 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 377.9145 [Uh, yes. We sang] this- we had little somethings. Well I can't think of that now, it's been so long. 382.6137 260 DTA_int_03 378.8245 [Yeah.] 379.0901 261 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 382.9465 You know, I'm sixty-three years old and [going back] down there. [Y- ] You- you- you're really pulling me down. [] (laughing) 390.3580 262 DTA_int_03 384.5756 [/inaudible/.] 385.0046 263 DTA_int_03 385.0046 (pause 0.98) 385.9801 264 DTA_int_03 385.9801 [/Now that's/ /unintelligible/.] 386.7374 265 DTA_int_03 386.7374 (pause 2.98) 389.7160 266 DTA_int_03 389.7160 [Right.] 390.2290 267 DTA_int_03 390.3908 I'm sorry. 390.8608 268 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 390.9588 Yeah, you- I- I can't think of what we did 393.3603 269 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 393.3603 (pause 0.38) 393.7451 270 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 393.7451 sing. But when they had a little 395.4015 271 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 395.4015 (pause 0.30) 395.7007 272 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 395.7007 song that we sang as they jump. Well a lot time they sang a little- some kind of little something, but [I can't] think of it. Uh, what it was when we jumped rope. 401.9542 273 DTA_int_03 399.5863 [Mm-hm.] 399.8327 274 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 402.5282 Mm-hm. 403.0901 275 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 403.0901 (pause 0.62) 403.7114 276 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 403.7114 That- [uh, we] had the b- 404.8229 277 DTA_int_03 403.8641 [Yeah.] 404.1862 278 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 404.9969 we had a lot of fun jumping rope. We 406.6747 279 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 406.6747 (pause 0.31) 406.9831 280 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 406.9831 played the b- 407.8748 281 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 407.8748 (pause 0.27) 408.1435 282 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 408.1435 that- 408.6076 283 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 408.6076 (pause 0.82) 409.4321 284 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 409.4321 that from /where from/- that from one to the other. And then we p- we had another /one/ 412.4579 285 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 412.4579 (pause 0.55) 413.0045 286 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 413.0045 /?/ 413.1816 287 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 413.1816 (pause 0.18) 413.3587 288 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 413.3587 uh, called leap frog. That's what the [boys played] too. [We-] 416.4412 289 DTA_int_03 415.5221 [Mm-hm.] 415.7858 290 DTA_int_03 415.7858 (pause 0.37) 416.1603 291 DTA_int_03 416.1603 [Leap frog?] 416.5877 292 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 416.9127 And leap frog. Mm-hm, yeah. 418.2133 293 DTA_int_03 418.2550 Now did you- 418.9251 294 DTA_int_03 418.9251 (pause 0.16) 419.0891 295 DTA_int_03 419.0891 did you kneel down or did you jump over people's [shoulders?] 422.1114 296 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 421.9587 [You] jumped right over- well, see the one with the- he wouldn't kneel down, he would stand and bow over, put his hands on his knees. And then you had to j- 428.5175 297 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 428.7984 jump- 429.0519 298 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 429.0519 (pause 0.65) 429.7023 299 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 429.7023 hit his shoulders and jump 430.9221 300 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 430.9221 (pause 0.33) 431.2549 301 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 431.2549 over, see. And, 432.3939 302 DTA_int_03 432.4733 Mm-hm. 432.7211 303 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 432.8763 leap frog and, uh, 434.1938 304 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 434.1938 (pause 0.15) 434.3435 305 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 434.3435 /one when/ called- we- we- we called- whatchu call, uh, 437.3679 306 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 437.3679 (pause 0.49) 437.8565 307 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 437.8565 he would set the goal, 438.9130 308 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 438.9130 (pause 0.42) 439.3344 309 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 439.3344 see. 439.7509 310 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 439.7509 (pause 0.20) 439.9557 311 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 439.9557 And this one would get down here and 441.5374 312 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 441.5374 (pause 0.38) 441.9221 313 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 441.9221 he'd get back here to start and jump. And 444.2870 314 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 444.2870 (pause 0.79) 445.0809 315 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 445.0809 he'd call that- 445.6717 316 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 445.6717 (pause 0.21) 445.8821 317 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 445.8821 that's over. 446.8137 318 DTA_int_03 447.1984 [Mm-hm.] 447.4336 319 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 447.3908 [That] one jump, that's over. Now you'd have to jump, and this guy would walk up- 450.8030 320 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 451.1145 well he wouldn't walk up there. 452.0686 321 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 452.0686 (pause 1.06) 453.1313 322 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 453.1313 And then all are made to jump, and when they over jump 456.1339 323 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 456.1339 (pause 0.86) 456.9893 324 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 456.9893 the guy that 457.4687 325 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 457.4687 (pause 0.24) 457.7052 326 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 457.7052 was the setter, 458.5847 327 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 458.5847 (pause 0.14) 458.7221 328 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 458.7221 [see.] 459.1282 329 DTA_int_03 459.0458 [Mm-hm.] 459.2900 330 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 460.2122 He called them /?/ over. Well if all of 'em made it over 463.0717 331 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 463.0717 (pause 0.93) 463.9984 332 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 463.9984 this jump 464.7022 333 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 464.7022 (pause 0.34) 465.0458 334 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 465.0458 they was alright. 465.9049 335 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 465.9049 (pause 0.25) 466.1572 336 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 466.1572 But the guy that didn't make it over, 467.6427 337 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 467.6427 (pause 0.20) 467.8381 338 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 467.8381 then he was the guy that was down. He got down and let the other guy up, [see?] 471.4916 339 DTA_int_03 471.1771 [Oh.] 471.4484 340 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 472.1420 Then this guy then proceeded after the jump, put this guy to- went down. He'd get out where the- 476.9664 341 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 476.9664 (pause 0.68) 477.6504 342 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 477.6504 he'd jumped to. 478.3832 343 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 478.3832 (pause 0.52) 478.9037 344 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 478.9037 So then 479.4564 345 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 479.4564 (pause 0.11) 479.5663 346 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 479.5663 he'd have to make it all the way and 481.2542 347 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 481.2542 (pause 0.11) 481.3655 348 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 481.3655 out further, and then he'd call that 483.3847 349 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 483.3847 (pause 0.43) 483.8183 350 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 483.8183 one and over. That's make- ma- mean making one step 486.5496 351 DTA_int_03 487.2794 Mm-hm. 487.5861 352 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 487.6686 and then the jump 488.6335 353 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 488.6335 (pause 0.19) 488.8198 354 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 488.8198 over. Hit the guy and jump over, again so on until he got out /so far/. 492.2784 355 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 492.2784 (pause 0.39) 492.6687 356 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 492.6687 And the- when this set- when this setter- 494.5266 357 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 494.5266 (pause 0.40) 494.9267 358 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 494.9267 if somebody out-jumped the setter, 496.6319 359 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 496.6319 (pause 0.69) 497.3190 360 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 497.3190 then the setter was the guy that went down, [see.] 499.3230 361 DTA_int_03 499.1603 [Uh-huh.] 499.5478 362 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 499.5526 [] So he was- 501.6809 363 DTA_int_03 500.1083 [Uh-huh.] 500.4737 364 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 502.1725 uh, he was the one that had to be the- 503.9541 365 DTA_int_03 504.2656 How [did you decide] who was the setter? 506.2762 366 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 504.5190 [/the other guy/.] 504.9649 367 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 507.0030 Well, uh, 507.7481 368 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 507.7481 (pause 0.30) 508.0473 369 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 508.0473 we just, uh, 509.0839 370 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 509.0839 (pause 0.19) 509.2769 371 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 509.2769 come out and they- 510.6503 372 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 510.6503 (pause 0.46) 511.1084 373 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 511.1084 we'd mostly 511.8625 374 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 511.8625 (pause 0.09) 511.9558 375 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 511.9558 choose that between ourself. I don't think we had any particular way to decide. Just somebody say, 515.6549 376 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 515.6549 (pause 0.41) 516.0641 377 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 516.0641 well I'll- I'll be the- uh, 518.1052 378 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 518.1052 (pause 0.39) 518.4991 379 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 518.4991 I'll be the setter. 519.3981 380 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 519.3981 (pause 0.16) 519.5596 381 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 519.5596 Well okay. 520.1969 382 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 520.1969 (pause 0.21) 520.4107 383 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 520.4107 He'd be the setter, well 521.4019 384 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 521.4019 (pause 0.58) 521.9816 385 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 521.9816 I say to the guy, if I'm a better jumper than you would be 524.8259 386 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 524.8259 (pause 0.53) 525.3541 387 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 525.3541 I'd be glad to let you be the setter, see. 527.3098 388 DTA_int_03 527.7159 [Mm-hm.] 528.0526 389 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 527.9785 [S-] cause I wouldn't have to be the chance to- m- him getting down, but I could out jump you anytime. Whenever you set. 532.8946 390 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 533.0489 And 533.2427 391 DTA_int_03 533.2945 Mm-hm. 533.5602 392 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 533.5602 I'd be glad. But the guy that was down 535.6397 393 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 536.5236 he'd be the guy, well, he'd take his- oh, yeah I'd go- I'll be the first down guy. And, [uh,] 540.9282 394 DTA_int_03 540.8671 [Mm-hm.] 541.1298 395 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 541.2000 at that, we didn't say, we didn't have a 542.6762 396 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 542.6762 (pause 0.15) 542.8259 397 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 542.8259 way of 543.2917 398 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 543.2917 (pause 0.15) 543.4457 399 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 543.4457 choosing one /the more in that way/. 544.8609 400 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 544.8609 (pause 1.00) 545.8656 401 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 545.8656 But the guy that, uh, did the setting, uh, 548.3129 402 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 548.3129 (pause 0.95) 549.2595 403 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 549.2595 and- p- and a lot of the b- guys- the best jumpers, they's try to stay out of being the setter, because he would 553.4565 404 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 553.4565 (pause 0.45) 553.9037 405 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 553.9037 you know, they could beat this guy at jumping. And that's happening. Uh, mm-hm. 557.6976 406 DTA_int_03 558.1892 But, 558.4885 407 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 558.5862 [Yeah.] 558.8366 408 DTA_int_03 558.7643 [setting for, /inaudible/.] 560.3373 409 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 559.4656 [Set- yeah. And-] yeah. And then 561.2717 410 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 561.6373 /??/ folk, you put him down there, see. Get [him down.] (laughing) 564.4213 411 DTA_int_03 564.1373 [Yeah.] 564.3652 412 DTA_int_03 565.5349 Uh, let's see, 566.4381 413 DTA_int_03 566.4381 (pause 0.30) 566.7342 414 DTA_int_03 566.7342 did you ever play any games with chalk on the sidewalk? 569.3953 415 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 570.4335 Mm, no. [I] never played- I- we never played that when I was a kid. 574.7685 416 DTA_int_03 571.2895 [/inaudible/.] 571.6784 417 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 574.8654 And, uh, I played that 576.2399 418 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 576.2399 (pause 1.11) 577.3526 419 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 577.3526 with my kid. 578.5005 420 DTA_int_03 578.6312 Yeah. 578.8197 421 DTA_int_03 578.8197 (pause 0.22) 579.0396 422 DTA_int_03 579.0396 Yeah. 579.2320 423 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 579.5648 I played that with my kids. I never played that when I was a kid. I played- 583.4759 424 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 583.4759 (pause 0.49) 583.9678 425 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 583.9678 we called it hopscotch, and played it then. 586.0686 426 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 586.0686 (pause 0.36) 586.4290 427 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 586.4290 We- but I play- I did play that with my kids. Not too much, I'd just get out sometimes when they was playing, and I'd say, let me show you how to do it, and 593.6701 428 DTA_int_03 593.9846 /Mm-hm/. 594.2564 429 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 594.3144 try to do it, and of course I could do about as good as they could at the time, cause I played with 'em 598.5755 430 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 598.5755 (pause 0.32) 598.8976 431 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 598.8976 often, up til they was all grown. I- when I came up with my children, I played with all of 'em. We'd get out and run- 604.3717 432 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 604.3717 (pause 1.53) 605.9052 433 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 605.9052 I have three 607.2999 434 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 607.2999 (pause 0.52) 607.8151 435 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 607.8151 girls and two boys. And 609.9905 436 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 609.9905 (pause 0.19) 610.1816 437 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 610.1816 they would try to whip me, but they couldn't handle me. 613.1450 438 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 613.1450 (pause 0.24) 613.3831 439 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 613.3831 /So/. 614.7705 440 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 614.7705 (pause 0.67) 615.4396 441 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 615.4396 That was the way that went. And I played with them all along. 618.0576 442 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 618.0576 (pause 0.87) 618.9251 443 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 618.9251 Mm-hm. 619.4595 444 DTA_int_03 619.6410 Did you ever play any running games? Where one person would chase everybody else? 623.1968 445 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 625.1480 N- no, I don't recall that one, where that one- 628.5840 446 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 628.5840 (pause 0.88) 629.4594 447 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 629.4594 I've saw kids play, but I don't remember us playing any running games. Except for the- back when I was a kid, I've saw other kids play it, but I didn't 637.3284 448 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 637.3284 (pause 0.13) 637.4540 449 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 637.4540 play. I- I didn't play that /any/. 639.0271 450 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 639.0271 (pause 0.78) 639.8030 451 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 639.8030 I played, uh, 640.7754 452 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 640.7754 (pause 0.40) 641.1724 453 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 641.1724 uh, 641.6368 454 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 641.6368 (pause 1.74) 643.3801 455 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 643.3801 what was that game? When you said running games, I- 645.6075 456 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 645.6075 (pause 2.60) 648.2045 457 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 648.2045 this was a game which I- p- and you- 650.2834 458 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 650.2834 (pause 0.93) 651.2167 459 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 651.2167 probably never heard of. We played this one was uh, 654.2472 460 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 654.2472 (pause 2.17) 656.4136 461 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 656.4136 we call it, uh, 658.0045 462 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 658.0045 (pause 0.90) 658.9006 463 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 658.9006 herding sheep. 659.8105 464 DTA_int_03 660.4396 Mm-hm. 660.7724 465 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 661.8487 And we'd get a- it'd be a bunch of us and we'd get- find all the tin cups we could find. 666.4216 466 DTA_int_03 666.9984 Tin cups? 667.5847 467 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 667.6777 Mm-hm. 668.1998 468 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 668.1998 (pause 0.19) 668.3922 469 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 668.3922 [Tin cans.] 669.1434 470 DTA_int_03 668.4594 [/And what would you do/?] 669.1995 471 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 669.5892 We had a stick and we'd knock 'em along in a bunch. And all of us would go out along ahead and we'd knock 'em along /at some point/. And 676.1113 472 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 676.1113 (pause 0.72) 676.8334 473 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 676.8334 oh, we'd 677.3220 474 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 677.3220 (pause 0.28) 677.6059 475 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 677.6059 take 'em, 678.2346 476 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 678.2346 (pause 0.15) 678.3853 477 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 678.3853 uh, then, uh, we'd hit- 679.8853 478 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 679.8853 (pause 0.24) 680.1235 479 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 680.1235 wouldn't be- 680.8808 480 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 680.8808 (pause 0.45) 681.3327 481 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 681.3327 what I mean- it wasn't a road, it would be the- 683.5923 482 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 683.5923 (pause 1.21) 684.8060 483 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 684.8060 take 'em down through the 686.0258 484 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 686.0258 (pause 0.38) 686.4105 485 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 686.4105 pasture here, and we'd drive 'em, push 'em here to /Puritan around there./ 690.2899 486 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 690.2899 (pause 0.18) 690.4731 487 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 690.4731 And then- 690.7846 488 DTA_int_03 690.7846 /?/ 690.9094 489 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 690.9587 turn around and bring 'em back. We'd have 'em tin cups, all the tin cups. We kept- we called it herding sheep. (laughing) 695.6701 490 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 695.6701 (pause 0.17) 695.8441 491 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 695.8441 [] /We would/. 697.9534 492 DTA_int_03 696.2197 [/inaudible/] 697.0455 493 DTA_int_03 697.9965 We used to do that with tires, some people do /inaudible/ and then rolling 'em like [/inaudible/] 701.9515 494 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 701.7708 [I mean-] well- uh, not automobile tires, I did that with a, 704.7372 495 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 704.8624 uh, 705.6548 496 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 705.6548 (pause 0.98) 706.6335 497 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 706.6335 well what we would call it, 707.7922 498 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 707.7922 (pause 0.20) 707.9968 499 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 707.9968 uh, 708.4273 500 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 708.4273 (pause 0.10) 708.5281 501 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 708.5281 w- 708.7646 502 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 708.7646 (pause 0.56) 709.3249 503 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 709.3249 wagon wheel bands. 710.9754 504 DTA_int_03 711.0395 [Uh-huh.] 711.2991 505 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 711.2747 [See,] this was a big 712.2090 506 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 712.5402 band, about this high. 713.8464 507 DTA_int_03 714.0823 Yeah. 714.2960 508 DTA_int_03 714.2960 (pause 0.48) 714.7785 509 DTA_int_03 714.7785 [Would you roll it with] your hand [or] 716.0593 510 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 714.8548 [Goes all the way.] 715.4686 511 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 715.4686 (pause 0.39) 715.8609 512 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 715.8609 [Yeah- yeah. Rolled] with a hand. 717.5106 513 DTA_int_03 716.2615 [a stick.] 716.4774 514 DTA_int_03 717.7052 Uh-huh. 717.9281 515 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 718.0197 We didn't do- we- we would roll with our hands. And see who could beat the other in rolling the with- w- with their hands. Roll- 723.7724 516 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 723.7724 (pause 0.56) 724.3373 517 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 724.3373 course, we'd just run races. And I'd beat you, and that'd be it. And we'd turn around and b- yeah, we rolled them for 730.1419 518 DTA_int_03 730.4381 [] 730.9323 519 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 730.8153 [miles.] This wasn't the 732.6197 520 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 733.0533 tire, it was a 734.1051 521 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 734.1051 (pause 0.79) 734.8930 522 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 734.8930 wagon wheel band, which is stood about that high, you [see /yeah/.] 737.4044 523 DTA_int_03 737.1906 [Bet it rolled better than a tire.] 738.6834 524 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 737.8227 [And it roll- and it had] roll- 739.1327 525 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 739.3800 and it wouldn't be anything. Wouldn't be any spokes in it. 741.3021 526 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 741.3021 (pause 0.24) 741.5434 527 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 741.5434 /Fact it was/ just the band that goes around- went around the [whole thing] see. 744.6691 528 DTA_int_03 743.9846 [Mm.] 744.2414 529 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 745.1022 Then we'd roll that. 745.8425 530 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 745.8425 (pause 0.13) 745.9677 531 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 745.9677 And we had- (laughing) we didn't roll no tires. 748.1602 532 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 748.1602 (pause 0.41) 748.5663 533 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 748.5663 My kid rolled out a big old tire (laughing). 750.3937 534 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 750.3937 (pause 0.36) 750.7510 535 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 750.7510 Back then, when I was playing, wasn't any 752.6914 536 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 752.6914 (pause 0.24) 752.9296 537 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 752.9296 tires to roll. 753.9617 538 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 753.9617 (pause 0.80) 754.7662 539 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 754.7662 Probably the parent caught you rolling the tire, you would roll out another cause (laughing) he want it for his car. 760.1357 540 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 760.1357 (pause 0.94) 761.0807 541 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 761.0807 [Mm.] 761.4044 542 DTA_int_03 761.0990 [Oh these] were generally junk things. 762.9313 543 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 762.9342 Uh-huh. [Yeah, I know] 764.0776 544 DTA_int_03 763.2830 [Mm.] 763.5456 545 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 764.5051 Well, I- you know, you see some kids now, you see some kids now with practically a brand new tire, out and rolling it out in the street right now. I have saw 'em with it and 771.7052 546 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 771.7052 (pause 0.73) 772.4380 547 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 772.4380 [Uh.] 772.6440 548 DTA_int_03 772.4380 [With] Papa [chasing 'em.] 773.5632 549 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 773.3433 [] Well, I don't know. (laughing) 775.2701 550 DTA_int_03 776.1509 Let's see, what are your favorite TV programs? Do you watch TV? 779.1912 551 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 779.7525 Yeah, I watch TV. I've got uh, some right now I watch 784.3342 552 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 784.3342 (pause 0.48) 784.8120 553 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 784.8120 is, uh, 785.5662 554 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 785.5662 (pause 1.27) 786.8365 555 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 786.8365 I like- which I like, 788.1675 556 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 788.1675 (pause 0.14) 788.3074 557 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 788.3074 Western plays, but [I] watch uh, Bonanza. 791.3097 558 DTA_int_03 789.5494 [Hm.] 789.7337 559 DTA_int_03 791.5784 Mm. 791.8672 560 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 792.2410 I watch, uh, 793.7779 561 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 793.7779 (pause 2.26) 796.0423 562 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 796.0423 Branded. 796.8059 563 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 796.8059 (pause 0.71) 797.5143 564 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 797.5143 I wanna see that 798.3632 565 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 798.3632 (pause 0.53) 798.8914 566 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 798.8914 uh, McCord- get- McCord 801.1968 567 DTA_int_03 801.7662 [Mm-hm.] 802.0197 568 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 801.8578 [get] out of the scrape that he's in. And I saw him last night, he was good. But he had a good one last night. 807.1189 569 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 807.8212 Then I [wa-] 808.3739 570 DTA_int_03 808.1163 [What's it about?] 808.7857 571 DTA_int_03 808.9036 Can you [tell me?] 809.3984 572 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 809.1906 [This- what] it was about last night, it was about a, uh, 811.9555 573 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 813.1433 Well, this one he had a- 814.5724 574 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 814.5724 (pause 2.32) 816.8945 575 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 816.8945 he was- had gone out and run into a shack here. 820.1225 576 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 820.1225 (pause 0.44) 820.5602 577 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 820.5602 And it was four men had this uh, I forget the name, but I didn't when- in fact I'd n- 825.3051 578 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 825.3051 (pause 0.30) 825.6013 579 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 825.6013 I didn't see the name of it when it started. 827.4807 580 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 827.4807 (pause 0.48) 827.9601 581 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 827.9601 Because I was putting my wife to bed, [see- she] my wife's an invalid. 831.2706 582 DTA_int_03 829.9997 [Mm-hm. 830.2939 583 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 831.9586 And, uh, 832.5601 584 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 832.5601 (pause 1.82) 834.3815 585 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 834.3815 these guys, when he rode out to the- up out in this uh, 837.5922 586 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 837.5922 (pause 0.52) 838.1113 587 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 838.1113 desert you might call that out here, by- he rode up to this here shack and he heard voices and he s- 843.5128 588 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 843.5128 (pause 0.11) 843.6258 589 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 843.6258 got off his horse and went n- 845.0349 590 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 845.0349 (pause 1.33) 846.3601 591 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 846.3601 knocked on the door, and one came to the door and 848.8325 592 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 848.8325 (pause 1.94) 850.7753 593 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 850.7753 there then asked him what was that? They said, ain't nothing up here that I can't take care of. 854.3005 594 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 854.3005 (pause 0.78) 855.0792 595 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 855.0792 He asked him- says- he asked 856.1510 596 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 856.1510 (pause 0.14) 856.2914 597 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 856.2914 McCord, what are you doing here? 857.8715 598 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 857.8715 (pause 0.56) 858.4334 599 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 858.4334 Said he was hunting job 859.6440 600 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 859.6440 (pause 0.12) 859.7631 601 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 859.7631 as a miner. 860.7066 602 DTA_int_03 861.2154 Mm-hm. 861.4792 603 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 861.6899 Cause they did have a sign up, mining. 863.5083 604 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 863.5083 (pause 1.42) 864.9250 605 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 864.9250 Said they didn't need no hands, no harm. Says uh, best thing you can do is get on that horse and get out of here. 870.3686 606 DTA_int_03 870.6960 [Mm-hm.] 871.0123 607 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 870.8425 [And] then this guy drawed his gun and 872.6871 608 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 873.2257 McCord looked at him and turned around, he went back and got on his uh, 876.3906 609 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 876.3906 (pause 1.67) 878.0593 610 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 878.0593 to get on his horse. Well, this guy turned around, went on back in his house and McCord plays to getting on his horse, stood and listened. 883.4258 611 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 883.4258 (pause 2.10) 885.5280 612 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 885.5280 And they had a man tied up in there see. 888.0456 613 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 888.0456 (pause 0.57) 888.6196 614 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 888.6196 And this man went there to 890.1967 615 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 890.1967 (pause 0.39) 890.5845 616 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 890.5845 kill the man. 891.3448 617 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 891.3448 (pause 1.63) 892.9738 618 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 892.9738 And they had this man tied up in there tell him that they was going to, uh, 896.0077 619 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 896.0077 (pause 0.29) 896.3005 620 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 896.3005 kill him and so McCord heard him say that I didn't kill the man. 899.7891 621 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 899.7891 (pause 1.41) 901.1998 622 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 901.1998 I- uh, the man did something else. So McCord went back and 904.6181 623 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 904.6181 (pause 0.65) 905.2700 624 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 905.2700 busted in on 'em, see. 906.6153 625 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 906.6153 (pause 1.31) 907.9280 626 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 907.9280 And 908.3554 627 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 908.3554 (pause 1.03) 909.3845 628 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 909.3845 cutting it a little short, he- uh, 910.9951 629 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 910.9951 (pause 0.71) 911.7005 630 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 911.7005 and immediately 912.4792 631 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 912.4792 (pause 0.31) 912.7876 632 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 912.7876 he got the best of 'em and got the man loose. Made 'em /?/ 915.1707 633 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 915.1707 (pause 0.49) 915.6624 634 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 915.6624 loosened the man, and took the man away 917.5539 635 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 917.5539 (pause 1.05) 918.6043 636 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 918.6043 and then he ran into a lieutenant that had saw him at this, uh, 922.7694 637 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 922.7694 (pause 1.36) 924.1280 638 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 924.1280 place where he's supposed to 925.9768 639 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 925.9768 (pause 0.33) 926.3096 640 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 926.3096 run away and left this man. 927.7937 641 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 927.7937 (pause 0.29) 928.0823 642 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 928.0823 I forget- can't call the name of that as much as I look at it. 930.5250 643 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 930.5250 (pause 0.74) 931.2639 644 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 931.2639 You know, when you're doing something on a 932.3951 645 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 932.3951 (pause 0.89) 933.2898 646 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 933.2898 ye- if- it leaves you. 934.7692 647 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 934.7692 (pause 0.32) 935.0867 648 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 935.0867 I- 935.2333 649 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 935.2333 (pause 0.33) 935.5631 650 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 935.5631 So, anyhow, he met a man had- had 937.1906 651 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 937.1906 (pause 0.16) 937.3494 652 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 937.3494 saw him there. 938.3463 653 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 938.3463 (pause 1.27) 939.6196 654 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 939.6196 Uh, Lieutenant. And this lieutenant spo- they had spoke to him, he hadn't saw him in so long. 944.4562 655 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 944.4562 (pause 0.60) 945.0578 656 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 945.0578 Wanted to know what he was doing out there 947.4262 657 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 947.4262 (pause 0.50) 947.9264 658 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 947.9264 in this 948.3997 659 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 948.3997 (pause 0.22) 948.6165 660 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 948.6165 place where he was. And he told him he was 950.7554 661 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 950.7554 (pause 0.30) 951.0577 662 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 951.0577 out looking for this work and 952.7050 663 DTA_int_03 953.1142 Mm. 953.3096 664 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 953.4898 he run into this man. 954.9616 665 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 954.9616 (pause 2.31) 957.2715 666 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 957.2715 And this man had told him that he saw him at this 960.4623 667 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 960.4623 (pause 0.13) 960.5952 668 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 960.5952 uh, place 961.8964 669 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 961.8964 (pause 0.46) 962.3585 670 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 962.3585 and he did not run off and leave his man. 964.6775 671 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 964.6775 (pause 2.05) 966.7265 672 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 966.7265 And, uh, 967.8468 673 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 967.8468 (pause 1.16) 969.0089 674 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 969.0089 so, 969.5738 675 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 969.5738 (pause 0.80) 970.3769 676 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 970.3769 this guy told this lieutenant then, of this army 973.4036 677 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 973.4036 (pause 0.79) 974.1905 678 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 974.1905 that, uh, he- uh, 975.2043 679 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 975.2043 (pause 2.08) 977.2882 680 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 977.2882 he thought if he 978.2074 681 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 978.2074 (pause 0.31) 978.5158 682 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 978.5158 told him what had happened, they could send that 981.0333 683 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 981.0333 (pause 0.88) 981.9127 684 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 981.9127 to the government and McCord would get another trial. 984.5865 685 DTA_int_03 985.1676 Mm-hm. 985.7089 686 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 986.8837 And so 987.9315 687 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 987.9315 (pause 0.27) 988.2059 688 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 988.2059 they tooked him then to this here, 990.1887 689 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 990.1887 (pause 0.09) 990.2820 690 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 990.2820 uh, camp where these- uh, 991.6653 691 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 991.6653 (pause 0.21) 991.8791 692 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 991.8791 this lieutenant was 992.8806 693 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 992.8806 (pause 0.63) 993.5097 694 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 993.5097 there for something. I forget what they were really there for because they didn't tell that particular- 997.9128 695 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 997.9128 (pause 0.37) 998.2821 696 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 998.2821 But this /happened/ and he gave him a written statement and sign when he was there. 1001.5600 697 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1001.5600 (pause 0.81) 1002.3661 698 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1002.3661 Then him and McCord left. 1003.7386 699 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1003.7386 (pause 1.74) 1005.4761 700 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1005.4761 So, when he left and got away- 1007.1447 701 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1007.1447 (pause 0.51) 1007.6577 702 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1007.6577 uh, 1008.3417 703 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1008.3417 (pause 1.80) 1010.1386 704 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1010.1386 and then he told McCord that he- he- he did not see him. Well, now, in other words, McCord they caught him- it was all a lie, and he'd made up. 1016.6943 705 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1016.6943 (pause 1.80) 1018.4959 706 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1018.4959 And McCord and him got into it, and McCord knocked him out and then 1022.8562 707 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1022.8562 (pause 0.42) 1023.2806 708 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1023.2806 put him on his horse and to- told him he was taking him back to this camp. 1026.4516 709 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1026.4516 (pause 1.75) 1028.2058 710 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1028.2058 And, uh, 1029.1554 711 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1029.1554 (pause 1.36) 1030.5143 712 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1030.5143 so, he told McCord i- why- well, what difference does it make that you- uh, you would be a free man. Uh. He says he didn't 1037.1844 713 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1037.1844 (pause 0.16) 1037.3462 714 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1037.3462 wanna go free, not like that. 1038.9890 715 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1038.9890 (pause 0.20) 1039.1845 716 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1039.1845 It- 1039.3982 717 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1039.3982 (pause 0.33) 1039.7294 718 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1039.7294 so, he took him back to this lieutenant, 1041.3600 719 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1041.3600 (pause 0.67) 1042.0348 720 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1042.0348 got the- 1042.7508 721 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1042.7508 (pause 1.16) 1043.9142 722 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1043.9142 Saw the lieutenant, and told him that he wanted to see that ledger that he had and then /lib-/ kind of got it and took the 1048.6593 723 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1048.6593 (pause 0.11) 1048.7670 724 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1048.7670 ledger, and then tore the sheet out and tore it out. 1050.6104 725 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1050.6104 (pause 1.24) 1051.8485 726 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1051.8485 And the- 1052.7065 727 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1052.7065 (pause 1.20) 1053.9035 728 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1053.9035 told the lieutenant what had happened. 1055.6607 729 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1055.6607 (pause 0.20) 1055.8653 730 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1055.8653 And- uh, and so. 1056.9371 731 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1056.9371 (pause 1.54) 1058.4775 732 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1058.4775 Then uh, he uh. 1059.7790 733 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1059.7790 (pause 0.21) 1059.9889 734 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1059.9889 This guy says, well what difference does it make? And he told the lieutenant, he di- well didn't want it that way 1064.8104 735 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1064.8104 (pause 0.68) 1065.4883 736 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1065.4883 at all. 1065.9298 737 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1065.9298 (pause 0.45) 1066.3813 738 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1066.3813 So, he took the guy and left 1068.0333 739 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1068.0333 (pause 0.38) 1068.4150 740 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1068.4150 and the lieutenant went off and this- /inaudible/. 1071.0241 741 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1071.0241 (pause 0.31) 1071.3356 742 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1071.3356 But was hi- he was good, that one. 1072.8028 743 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1072.8028 (pause 0.33) 1073.1355 744 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1073.1355 Then [Bona-] 1073.7035 745 DTA_int_03 1073.6485 [Mm-hm.] 1073.8579 746 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1074.1462 Bonanza ha- they was. 1075.6775 747 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1075.6775 (pause 1.05) 1076.7249 748 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1076.7249 It was a 1077.1432 749 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1077.1432 (pause 0.11) 1077.2501 750 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1077.2501 good one. And it was a good play, I'd like- like it. And there was another one. Oh, I was going to say it's this bowling. 1082.7249 751 DTA_int_03 1083.1615 Mm-hm. 1083.4424 752 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1083.4424 I like to see it's- 1084.5814 753 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1085.1386 it's only on Sunday night. It comes on at eleven thirty, and the rest of the week, it comes on at one 1090.5217 754 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1090.5217 (pause 0.29) 1090.8149 755 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1090.8149 o'clock. And I don't stay up to see it. /?/ 1092.7386 756 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1092.7386 (pause 0.31) 1093.0536 757 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1093.0536 But it's a 1093.5309 758 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1093.5309 (pause 0.14) 1093.6683 759 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1093.6683 match game on, uh, bowling on [TV.] 1096.0234 760 DTA_int_03 1095.5832 [Mm-hm.] 1095.8009 761 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1096.9187 Amateur and a pro. 1098.2898 762 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1098.2898 (pause 0.20) 1098.4913 763 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1098.4913 I don't know what he is. Maybe it [started] in ni- 1100.2027 764 DTA_int_03 1099.7569 [I-] 1099.8851 765 DTA_int_03 1100.3370 I 1100.5783 766 DTA_int_03 1100.5783 (pause 0.13) 1100.7096 767 DTA_int_03 1100.7096 I've watched it once, I [think.] 1101.9914 768 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1101.9188 [And] now but I watch it every Sunday night, because that's the onliest night I get to see it. I ain't gonna stay up til one [o'clock] to see it. 1107.3814 769 DTA_int_03 1106.7248 [Mm-hm.] 1106.9661 770 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1107.9676 And uh, I watch that one quite often. Then there's Bonanza. 1111.0094 771 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1111.0094 (pause 0.20) 1111.2058 772 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1111.2058 I [watch it too.] 1111.9523 773 DTA_int_03 1111.5227 [Do you bowl?] 1111.9370 774 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1113.0210 I did until my uh, 1115.3187 775 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1115.3187 (pause 0.64) 1115.9539 776 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1115.9539 condition, in which it. I'm- see, I'm retired. 1118.7493 777 DTA_int_03 1118.8775 Mm-hm. 1119.1310 778 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1119.3753 Cause I've been retired since sixty-one. I have a 1121.5202 779 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1121.5202 (pause 1.12) 1122.6378 780 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1122.6378 heart [condition.] 1123.7905 781 DTA_int_03 1123.5034 [Mm-hm.] 1123.7905 782 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1124.4836 And /unintelligible/, 1126.0592 783 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1126.0592 (pause 0.24) 1126.3005 784 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1126.3005 ulcers. 1127.2973 785 DTA_int_03 1127.7218 Alright. 1128.1890 786 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1128.6959 1129.0256 787 DTA_int_03 1128.9401 [Um.] 1129.2821 788 DTA_int_03 1129.4318 Real g- [/unintelligible/ (laughing)] 1131.2623 789 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1129.9126 [] So, 1131.7753 790 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1132.3385 so, uh, but up until then, 1134.0681 791 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1134.0681 (pause 0.11) 1134.1823 792 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1134.1823 I, uh, 1135.1234 793 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1135.1234 (pause 0.60) 1135.7202 794 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1135.7202 I gone to Chicago and that's when Joe Louis, 1138.0104 795 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1138.0104 (pause 0.14) 1138.1539 796 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1138.1539 he had a 1138.8149 797 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1138.8149 (pause 0.64) 1139.4500 798 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1139.4500 bowling team at that time. That's when he was in his prime 1141.9593 799 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1141.9593 (pause 0.19) 1142.1509 800 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1142.1509 boxing. 1142.6180 801 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1142.6180 (pause 1.68) 1144.3005 802 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1144.3005 And I- I've lived 1145.6851 803 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1145.6851 (pause 0.17) 1145.8531 804 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1145.8531 in Indiana, I was at /RD-WORK-7/, as I was talking about, then I was in Indiana 1149.5432 805 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1149.5432 (pause 0.29) 1149.8363 806 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1149.8363 and I lived there 1150.9004 807 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1150.9004 (pause 1.31) 1152.2103 808 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1152.2103 but we would go up to Chicago quite often. See, I went up to Chicago and happened to 1155.6989 809 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1155.6989 (pause 1.51) 1157.2118 810 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1157.2118 go in the bowling alley there. I didn't know Joe Louis's team was there and was bowling. 1161.4546 811 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1161.4546 (pause 1.66) 1163.1141 812 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1163.1141 And uh, 1163.8622 813 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1163.8622 (pause 1.02) 1164.8852 814 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1164.8852 one of the guy come over, he says, how'd you like to join our team? 1167.2764 815 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1167.2764 (pause 1.91) 1169.1843 816 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1169.1843 And I says, well, I don't know. He says, well, this is, uh, this is Joe Louis's team. He says 1173.4388 817 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1173.4388 (pause 0.10) 1173.5393 818 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1173.5393 I see what you bowling and your score, you see, well I'd like to get you on our team. I says, 1177.6042 819 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1177.6042 (pause 1.02) 1178.6271 820 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1178.6271 I said, well I don't live here in, uh, Chicago. 1180.9187 821 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1180.9187 (pause 0.60) 1181.5202 822 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1181.5202 I says, I live in Indiana. He says, oh, you see, but- 1183.6835 823 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1183.6835 (pause 0.41) 1184.0897 824 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1184.0897 I was- At that time, I was- I'd bowl, my average was around 1187.9569 825 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1187.9569 (pause 0.27) 1188.2225 826 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1188.2225 a 1188.5523 827 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1188.5523 (pause 0.90) 1189.4501 828 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1189.4501 hundred and eighty, two hundred. 1190.7330 829 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1190.7330 (pause 0.45) 1191.1859 830 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1191.1859 I was [a-] 1191.5496 831 DTA_int_03 1191.4760 [Pretty] good. 1191.8485 832 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1191.8350 And I hadn't been bowling too long at that time, 1194.2164 833 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1194.8913 And then I bowled /clean up/ until I came here. 1197.4577 834 DTA_int_03 1197.9035 Mm-hm. 1198.2546 835 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1199.3859 I left /RD-WORK-2/. That's where I bowled at, see, at /RD-WORK-7/, and I came here. 1203.5101 836 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1203.5101 (pause 1.47) 1204.9828 837 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1204.9828 And after I got here, I went to work in a factory and that was all new to me. I hadn't worked in a factory. When I went to work in a factory and I got in the factory and that cut all the bowling time out cause I wasn't a man to 1215.1370 838 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1215.1370 (pause 1.24) 1216.3768 839 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1216.3768 um, go out without my wife. 1218.0424 840 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1218.0424 (pause 0.11) 1218.1523 841 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1218.1523 [And.] 1218.5034 842 DTA_int_03 1218.2439 [Mm-hm.] 1218.6154 843 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1218.8058 So, 1219.2049 844 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1219.2049 (pause 0.38) 1219.5814 845 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1219.5814 I worked 1220.2912 846 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1220.2912 (pause 0.33) 1220.6210 847 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1220.6210 afternoons. 1221.8729 848 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1221.8729 (pause 1.71) 1223.5782 849 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1223.5782 I come home, 1224.4515 850 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1224.4515 (pause 0.64) 1225.0897 851 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1225.0897 at about, uh, 1226.3156 852 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1226.3156 (pause 0.90) 1227.2134 853 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1227.2134 twelve thirty at night, well- 1228.8057 854 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1228.8057 (pause 0.18) 1228.9889 855 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1228.9889 then the next morning, I'd get- I was late when I got up, /??/ so I helped the wife. I got no time to [bowl.] I had enough. 1235.1751 856 DTA_int_03 1234.4057 [Mm.] 1234.5454 857 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1235.4072 M- s- 1235.6637 858 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1235.6637 (pause 0.59) 1236.2561 859 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1236.2561 At like- 1236.6195 860 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1236.6195 (pause 0.25) 1236.8729 861 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1236.8729 would not take off of work time. 1238.1092 862 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1238.1092 (pause 0.23) 1238.3388 863 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1238.3388 /I'm not that way-/ Work 1239.6378 864 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1239.6378 (pause 0.28) 1239.9157 865 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1239.9157 and 1240.2790 866 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1240.2790 (pause 0.48) 1240.7629 867 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1240.7629 me, with me, work 1242.1767 868 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1242.1767 (pause 2.17) 1244.3461 869 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1244.3461 comes first. 1245.6225 870 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1245.6225 (pause 0.46) 1246.0867 871 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1246.0867 And everything, and taking care of the home and- course, all at that has to be taken care of at home. After I had taken care of home, then if I- we had time to- 1252.0348 872 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1252.0348 (pause 0.81) 1252.8484 873 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1252.8484 I mean for myself. 1254.0689 874 DTA_int_03 1254.9034 [Mm.] 1255.1080 875 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1254.9920 [But] I sure well- I feel like I might have a- 1256.9410 876 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1257.7569 But I tried to take care of the kids, the home and everything and she does /then/ that was- we 1261.8087 877 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1261.8087 (pause 0.24) 1262.0530 878 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1262.0530 Course all of 'em is grown now, but I still got my grandchildren around to- 1265.4097 879 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1265.4097 (pause 0.68) 1266.0881 880 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1266.0881 It's, um, just [li-] 1267.3324 881 DTA_int_03 1267.0286 [/inaudible/] you're busy. 1267.7242 882 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1267.8545 Just like this morning. I was 1269.1599 883 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1269.1599 (pause 0.13) 1269.2855 884 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1269.2855 saying I ain't gonna get up too early. I didn't have to get up. Uh. I s- I'm not gonna get up too early. 1273.2332 885 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1273.2332 (pause 0.87) 1274.1049 886 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1274.1049 I was laying bed. Then, here come one and knocks on the door. 1277.4133 887 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1277.4133 (pause 0.19) 1277.6026 888 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1277.6026 Grandpa. 1278.2408 889 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1278.2408 (pause 1.26) 1279.5044 890 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1279.5044 That's my 1280.1263 891 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1280.1263 (pause 0.77) 1280.8988 892 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1280.8988 daughter's 1281.7233 893 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1281.7233 (pause 0.56) 1282.2821 894 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1282.2821 she lives upstairs, see. 1283.7217 895 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1283.7217 (pause 1.25) 1284.9676 896 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1284.9676 I say, yeah. What is it? 1285.9864 897 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1285.9864 (pause 1.15) 1287.1370 898 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1287.1370 Will you drive us to school? 1288.6485 899 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1288.6485 (pause 0.14) 1288.7904 900 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1288.7904 Then he goes (laughing). I says well (laughing). 1291.4972 901 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1291.4972 (pause 1.08) 1292.5782 902 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1292.5782 I says, alright. Give me 1294.5736 903 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1294.5736 (pause 0.39) 1294.9614 904 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1294.9614 Give me time. Yeah. I'll get up. And I got up (laughing) [ /unintelligible/] 1298.6240 905 DTA_int_03 1297.2255 [/inaudible/] 1297.8453 906 DTA_int_03 1297.8453 (pause 0.36) 1298.2087 907 DTA_int_03 1298.2087 [/unintelligible/] 1299.2101 908 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1298.9019 [/S- took 'em/] to school. I says my, yeah. I planned on taking me a good rest this morning. And I'd get up. 1304.1978 909 DTA_int_03 1304.6148 Uh-huh. 1304.9965 910 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1304.9965 So, I got up. And after I got up and taken them to school, and then it's been /RD-NAME-2/ 1308.5523 911 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1308.7721 so and so, grandpa, so and so. 1310.9171 912 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1310.9171 (pause 1.20) 1312.1172 913 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1312.1172 Then that it- uh. 1313.1624 914 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1313.1624 (pause 0.14) 1313.2987 915 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1313.2987 Do this for hisself and that's my busiest. I stay busy all day from t- t- By the time I get up, go ahead, /?/ I got something to do. 1320.4881 916 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1320.4881 (pause 1.19) 1321.6774 917 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1321.6774 Even though 1322.2545 918 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1322.2545 (pause 0.35) 1322.6026 919 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1322.6026 fellow right up here, 1323.5309 920 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1323.5309 (pause 1.97) 1325.5018 921 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1325.5018 live right up the street here, he says to me 1327.5827 922 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1327.5827 (pause 0.47) 1328.0560 923 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1328.0560 about two weeks ago, says, uh, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, he says, uh, 1331.4896 924 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1331.4896 (pause 1.96) 1333.4500 925 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1333.4500 we were just talking about you, we know you're retired. Course, um, 1337.2363 926 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1337.2363 (pause 0.25) 1337.4835 927 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1337.4835 the retirement it's /yours/, says but, m- you don't just take it easy now or nothing. 1341.8973 928 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1341.8973 (pause 1.20) 1343.0988 929 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1343.0988 I says, well I don't know what you call, take it easy or not. My- one of my son has a filling station and I 1348.4469 930 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1348.4469 (pause 0.24) 1348.6896 931 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1348.6896 run that for him at uh, 1350.0637 932 DTA_int_03 1350.8973 Oh do [you?] 1351.2659 933 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1351.1233 [po-] even from four to ten at night, see. 1353.2316 934 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1353.6713 1353.9935 935 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1353.9935 (pause 0.63) 1354.6210 936 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1354.6210 And so, he says, uh, 1356.1858 937 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1356.1858 (pause 0.47) 1356.6561 938 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1356.6561 I- I- I says, well, I don't know whether I take it easy or not. I says, now I get up in the morning. I says 1361.8141 939 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1361.8141 (pause 0.15) 1361.9629 940 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1361.9629 get my wife up. 1362.7660 941 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1362.7660 (pause 0.25) 1363.0194 942 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1363.0194 Wash and 1363.7629 943 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1363.7629 (pause 0.22) 1363.9858 944 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1363.9858 bathe her. 1364.7339 945 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1364.7339 (pause 1.24) 1365.9706 946 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1365.9706 Fix some breakfast and help clean the house, and I says I'll wash. 1369.6651 947 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1369.6651 (pause 1.56) 1371.2255 948 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1371.2255 I said, of course, I don't do much ironing. I says and 1374.2569 949 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1374.2569 (pause 0.78) 1375.0377 950 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1375.0377 then I says, I do the running from here to the store, the shopping. I says, and then at four o'clock, I says I take off, and go to the filling station and 1383.0457 951 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1383.0457 (pause 0.69) 1383.7385 952 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1383.7385 there til ten. And we- 1385.0987 953 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1385.0987 (pause 0.51) 1385.6087 954 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1385.6087 He says, you mean you work at night 1387.4046 955 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1387.4046 (pause 0.14) 1387.5482 956 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1387.5482 do you? I says yeah. 1388.9598 957 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1388.9598 (pause 0.55) 1389.5125 958 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1389.5125 He says, well, oh he says well, uh, we didn't know, uh, I says, /actually-/ exactly, I says yeah, I run the station. No- nobody but me from 1396.4591 959 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1396.4591 (pause 0.31) 1396.7659 960 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1396.7659 four o'clock til ten at night, I says. 1398.8781 961 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1398.8781 (pause 0.36) 1399.2423 962 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1399.2423 And then, but. 1399.8214 963 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1399.8214 (pause 0.82) 1400.6453 964 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1400.6453 He said well, I don't guess you do take it easy. He [said, we] got you wrong. We thought (laughing) you weren't busy. 1405.5369 965 DTA_int_03 1402.8614 [] 1403.1994 966 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1406.3858 So, I do. 1407.1033 967 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1407.1033 (pause 0.69) 1407.7965 968 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1407.7965 But, 1408.3584 969 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1408.3584 (pause 0.18) 1408.5355 970 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1408.5355 that's my living. I- 1409.7858 971 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1409.7858 (pause 0.63) 1410.4118 972 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1410.4118 well, I mean I- 1411.5049 973 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1411.5049 (pause 1.24) 1412.7491 974 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1412.7491 always gonna 1413.7293 975 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1413.7293 (pause 1.25) 1414.9796 976 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1414.9796 joy out of doing things for other people. 1417.2733 977 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1417.2733 (pause 0.35) 1417.6271 978 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1417.6271 I- I- I do that more then 1419.6408 979 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1419.6408 (pause 0.29) 1419.9309 980 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1419.9309 have all my life, and [that's] uh. 1422.2133 981 DTA_int_03 1421.6087 [Mm-hm.] 1421.8682 982 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1424.1873 If I do something for you, I don't expect for you to do something for me. Most people lives that way, you [know.] 1429.9338 983 DTA_int_03 1429.8636 [Mm.] 1430.1384 984 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1431.0789 Uh. I- Well, they don't do so and so for me and. 1434.0392 985 DTA_int_03 1434.3843 Why should I? 1434.9828 986 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1435.0805 Why should I do it for. Well, I- I don't do nothing for you to do nothing for me, because I- 1439.7369 987 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1439.7369 (pause 0.85) 1440.5888 988 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1440.5888 I feel which it always proved to me, that I get it 1443.2926 989 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1443.2926 (pause 0.20) 1443.4942 990 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1443.4942 to- 1443.8972 991 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1443.8972 (pause 0.36) 1444.2545 992 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1444.2545 maybe two fold the other way, aro- other way around. 1446.9431 993 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1446.9431 (pause 0.66) 1447.5996 994 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1447.5996 I [know.] 1448.0010 995 DTA_int_03 1447.9277 [Bread] on the water. 1448.8855 996 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1449.1033 Well that's right. I- uh, 1450.2515 997 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1450.2515 (pause 1.15) 1451.4064 998 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1451.4064 At this filling station, I- 1453.0347 999 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1453.0347 (pause 0.30) 1453.3339 1000 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1453.3339 man wrote- he wrote me a letter. I got that out at the filling station. I put that in a frame. 1457.3399 1001 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1457.3399 (pause 1.97) 1459.3125 1002 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1459.3125 He was a white fella. He drove in the station one night in- 1461.7904 1003 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1461.7904 (pause 0.98) 1462.7750 1004 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1462.7750 just a little before I was getting ready to close. 1464.5980 1005 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1464.5980 (pause 2.07) 1466.6697 1006 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1466.6697 And I went out and says, yeah sir, what can I do for you? He says, well, he says, uh 1470.9400 1007 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1470.9400 (pause 0.38) 1471.3156 1008 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1471.3156 you know, he says, I just ran out of gas, so it just rolled in. 1474.1507 1009 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1474.1507 (pause 0.51) 1474.6590 1010 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1474.6590 I didn't drive in, it rolled in. 1476.2010 1011 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1476.2010 (pause 1.55) 1477.7515 1012 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1477.7515 As I find, I haven't got my billfold with me. 1480.4621 1013 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1480.4621 (pause 1.08) 1481.5384 1014 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1481.5384 And 1482.0667 1015 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1482.0667 (pause 0.45) 1482.5186 1016 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1482.5186 I haven't got no money. 1483.5629 1017 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1483.5629 (pause 1.08) 1484.6422 1018 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1484.6422 And he says, you don't know me. 1486.1810 1019 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1486.1810 (pause 0.10) 1486.2779 1020 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1486.2779 I says, no. 1487.1139 1021 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1487.1139 (pause 1.47) 1488.5797 1022 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1488.5797 And he just wondered if I could leave something uh, to get fifty cents worth of gas. Says, uh. I says, well how far do you live? Where do you live? But and- he told me, I says, oh, well. And I 1497.7384 1023 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1497.7384 (pause 0.42) 1498.1568 1024 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1498.1568 put a dollar's worth in, and 1499.5201 1025 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1499.5201 (pause 1.54) 1501.0621 1026 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1501.0621 he said, well uh, uh, 1502.4743 1027 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1502.4743 (pause 0.20) 1502.6788 1028 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1502.6788 Uh. Can I leave something? I says, well. I says 1505.6666 1029 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1505.6666 (pause 0.15) 1505.8193 1030 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1505.8193 you'll be back one day. 1506.7598 1031 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1506.7598 (pause 2.25) 1509.0056 1032 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1509.0056 So, 1509.3262 1033 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1509.3262 (pause 0.23) 1509.5552 1034 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1509.5552 he- uh, 1510.0385 1035 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1510.0385 (pause 1.08) 1511.1170 1036 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1511.1170 I /put it in/ 1512.1338 1037 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1512.1338 (pause 0.28) 1512.4147 1038 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1512.4147 uh. 1512.9155 1039 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1512.9155 (pause 1.40) 1514.3124 1040 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1514.3124 He thanked me and drove on. 1515.7018 1041 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1515.7018 (pause 1.06) 1516.7597 1042 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1516.7597 And uh, 1517.6422 1043 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1517.6422 (pause 0.32) 1517.9628 1044 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1517.9628 I guess about 1518.7628 1045 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1518.7628 (pause 1.34) 1520.0987 1046 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1520.0987 oh, it was maybe 1521.8667 1047 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1521.8667 (pause 0.25) 1522.1171 1048 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1522.1171 two months. 1522.9154 1049 DTA_int_03 1523.0529 Mm-hm. 1523.3124 1050 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1523.5292 I wasn't at the station when he- he stopped in 1525.8773 1051 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1525.8773 (pause 1.98) 1527.8575 1052 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1527.8575 one day, and he asked for me. 1529.4712 1053 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1529.4712 (pause 0.39) 1529.8590 1054 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1529.8590 And my son, he told him I didn't come to work til four. 1533.6834 1055 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1533.6834 (pause 1.59) 1535.2697 1056 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1535.2697 Til four o'clock. 1536.2804 1057 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1536.2804 (pause 0.93) 1537.2148 1058 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1537.2148 So, he wanted my address. And my son he wouldn't give it to him, because he didn't know him and he just really didn't know just really 1544.1414 1059 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1544.1414 (pause 0.11) 1544.2513 1060 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1544.2513 given my address to a stranger. And right then he says, well, if 1546.8853 1061 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1546.8853 (pause 0.70) 1547.5842 1062 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1547.5842 any message or anything. He says, you can uh 1550.4926 1063 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1550.4926 (pause 0.11) 1550.6025 1064 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1550.6025 come here to see him, you see. 1552.1140 1065 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1552.1140 (pause 1.67) 1553.7826 1066 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1553.7826 So, then he told him w- 1554.9521 1067 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1554.9521 (pause 0.25) 1555.1995 1068 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1555.1995 uh 1555.7536 1069 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1555.7536 (pause 0.97) 1556.7277 1070 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1556.7277 what I did. 1557.4544 1071 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1557.4544 (pause 0.74) 1558.1964 1072 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1558.1964 No I didn't either. I got /unintelligible/ I'm just a little ahead of it. 1560.6346 1073 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1560.6346 (pause 0.88) 1561.5171 1074 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1561.5171 He told- after he told him, he could send me a message /there whatever/ it was. And so, he asked him the address of the p- station and everything and so 1567.9276 1075 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1567.9276 (pause 0.28) 1568.2086 1076 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1568.2086 he give it to him. 1568.9750 1077 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1568.9750 (pause 1.22) 1570.1995 1078 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1570.1995 And so, about uh 1571.7277 1079 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1571.7277 (pause 0.92) 1572.6437 1080 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1572.6437 three or four days after that, when I went to work, and had seed- saw a letter. 1575.8666 1081 DTA_int_03 1576.5643 Mm-hm. 1576.8879 1082 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1579.1384 And /the s-/ 1579.6192 1083 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1579.6192 (pause 0.16) 1579.7780 1084 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1579.7780 he went on to 1580.7643 1085 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1580.7643 (pause 1.52) 1582.2880 1086 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1582.2880 tell 1582.7811 1087 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1582.7811 (pause 0.36) 1583.1383 1088 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1583.1383 uh 1583.6605 1089 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1583.6605 (pause 0.39) 1584.0544 1090 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1584.0544 how he appreciated the, uh, 1586.3979 1091 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1586.3979 (pause 0.40) 1586.7979 1092 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1586.7979 what I did 1587.4697 1093 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1587.4697 (pause 1.75) 1589.2177 1094 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1589.2177 and he uh. 1590.0208 1095 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1590.0208 (pause 3.24) 1593.2620 1096 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1593.2620 Well, 1593.6727 1097 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1593.6727 (pause 1.00) 1594.6711 1098 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1594.6711 he sent a check for two dollars, place of a dollar, see. 1598.1689 1099 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1598.1689 (pause 1.72) 1599.8911 1100 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1599.8911 And uh. He thanked me and, 1601.7612 1101 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1601.7612 (pause 1.71) 1603.4682 1102 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1603.4682 S- told sh- course he in- in this letter, 1606.0101 1103 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1606.0101 (pause 0.58) 1606.5887 1104 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1606.5887 uh I couldn't read it mys- 1608.0666 1105 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1608.0666 (pause 1.63) 1609.6986 1106 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1609.6986 excuse me. 1610.3531 1107 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1610.3531 (pause 28.39) 1638.7384 1108 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1638.7384 And so, 1639.2361 1109 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1639.2361 (pause 0.28) 1639.5201 1110 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1639.5201 uh. 1640.1230 1111 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1640.1230 (pause 1.88) 1642.0071 1112 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1642.0071 I read the letter, 1642.9581 1113 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1642.9581 (pause 0.08) 1643.0406 1114 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1643.0406 well, I didn't read it. I gave it to my son. He read it. 1645.8574 1115 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1645.8574 (pause 0.55) 1646.4070 1116 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1646.4070 And, um, 1646.8803 1117 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1646.8803 (pause 1.93) 1648.8146 1118 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1648.8146 the- he uh. 1649.8773 1119 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1649.8773 (pause 1.26) 1651.1398 1120 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1651.1398 The, uh, salesman, had comes from the company. 1653.6895 1121 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1653.6895 (pause 2.12) 1655.8070 1122 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1655.8070 He happened to be at the s- station. 1657.6558 1123 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1657.6558 (pause 1.22) 1658.8803 1124 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1658.8803 So, 1659.3383 1125 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1659.3383 (pause 1.57) 1660.9093 1126 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1660.9093 he invited me to 1662.2681 1127 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1662.2681 (pause 0.60) 1662.8691 1128 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1662.8691 frame it, see. 1663.7189 1129 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1663.7189 (pause 0.17) 1663.8848 1130 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1663.8848 Well, that's so, 1664.6177 1131 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1664.6177 (pause 1.07) 1665.6864 1132 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1665.6864 I got- 1666.2055 1133 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1666.2055 (pause 0.90) 1667.1078 1134 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1667.1078 I got a frame 1667.9045 1135 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1667.9045 (pause 0.97) 1668.8758 1136 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1668.8758 and. 1669.1811 1137 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1669.1811 (pause 2.46) 1671.6376 1138 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1671.6376 So, 1671.9796 1139 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1671.9796 (pause 11.37) 1683.3536 1140 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1683.3536 You know, those 1684.2300 1141 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1684.2300 (pause 0.77) 1685.0009 1142 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1685.0009 that's where I get my living 1686.1643 1143 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1686.1643 (pause 1.10) 1687.2666 1144 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1687.2666 is through 1687.8177 1145 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1687.8177 (pause 1.33) 1689.1460 1146 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1689.1460 doing 1689.7628 1147 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1689.7628 (pause 0.65) 1690.4132 1148 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1690.4132 things for people. 1691.4253 1149 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1691.4253 (pause 1.74) 1693.1628 1150 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1693.1628 That's the s- 1693.5475 1151 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1693.5475 (pause 11.89) 1705.4407 1152 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1705.4407 Maybe it'll pass /reckon when I get home/ 1707.3752 1153 DTA_int_03 1710.4330 Do you belong to a church? 1711.5367 1154 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1711.7841 Oh, yeah. 1712.2360 1155 DTA_int_03 1712.6146 What church? 1713.1414 1156 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1714.4529 Uh. 1714.8451 1157 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1714.8451 (pause 0.71) 1715.5597 1158 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1715.5597 Saint Paul Methodist church. Out on, uh, 1718.1239 1159 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1718.1239 (pause 0.35) 1718.4772 1160 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1718.4772 it's out on 1719.2711 1161 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1719.2711 (pause 0.24) 1719.5124 1162 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1719.5124 Ohio, near Eight Mile 1720.8909 1163 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1720.8909 (pause 0.45) 1721.3368 1164 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1721.3368 Road. 1721.8273 1165 DTA_int_03 1722.2956 Mm-hm. 1722.5918 1166 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1723.1139 Oh yes ma'am. 1724.7551 1167 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1724.7551 (pause 0.71) 1725.4666 1168 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1725.4666 Church. 1726.1383 1169 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1726.1383 (pause 1.67) 1727.8070 1170 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1727.8070 Yeah. 1728.3139 1171 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1728.3139 (pause 0.29) 1728.6070 1172 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1728.6070 I couldn't get along without 1729.8848 1173 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1729.8848 (pause 0.63) 1730.5108 1174 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1730.5108 [church.] 1731.0739 1175 DTA_int_03 1730.7429 [Uh-huh.] 1730.9108 1176 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1731.5673 Mm-mm. 1731.9765 1177 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1731.9765 (pause 0.26) 1732.2391 1178 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1732.2391 I don't see- 1732.9245 1179 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1732.9245 (pause 0.36) 1733.2818 1180 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1733.2818 I don't really see how 1735.0284 1181 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1735.0284 (pause 1.71) 1736.7337 1182 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1736.7337 people, which, my children, my 1738.7505 1183 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1738.7505 (pause 1.66) 1740.4116 1184 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1740.4116 now, mi- not all of them 1741.8966 1185 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1741.8966 (pause 0.28) 1742.1718 1186 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1742.1718 this daughter that lives upstairs is about the only one 1744.6405 1187 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1744.6405 (pause 0.71) 1745.3459 1188 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1745.3459 that do attend church pretty regularly. The rest of 'em goes oncet in a while. And I stay after them, I don't know how you can stay out of church even 1753.0559 1189 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1753.0559 (pause 1.42) 1754.4772 1190 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1754.4772 if you're not a church member. If you're just a person that existing 1758.3383 1191 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1758.3383 (pause 1.18) 1759.5200 1192 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1759.5200 once in a while, you oughta 1760.8650 1193 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1760.8650 (pause 1.71) 1762.5719 1194 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1762.5719 look 1762.9459 1195 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1762.9459 (pause 0.19) 1763.1321 1196 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1763.1321 to the almighty for 1764.8055 1197 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1764.8055 (pause 0.38) 1765.1872 1198 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1765.1872 how good he's been to you, because 1767.1215 1199 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1767.1215 (pause 2.35) 1769.4680 1200 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1769.4680 you know, when you 1770.9093 1201 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1770.9093 (pause 1.87) 1772.7825 1202 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1772.7825 meet someone and say good morning, 1774.8537 1203 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1774.8537 (pause 0.54) 1775.3947 1204 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1775.3947 and that person says, what's good about it? 1777.1597 1205 DTA_int_03 1777.5642 Mm-hm. 1777.8787 1206 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1779.5917 Then, I look at 'em and say, 1782.2847 1207 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1782.2847 (pause 1.91) 1784.1963 1208 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1784.1963 how many people would like to be in your 1786.5170 1209 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1786.5170 (pause 1.61) 1788.1276 1210 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1788.1276 place, up walking around who can't get out of bed this morning? 1791.6428 1211 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1791.6428 (pause 1.38) 1793.0222 1212 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1793.0222 I says, if you had swapped places with them, 1795.2360 1213 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1795.2360 (pause 0.42) 1795.6588 1214 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1795.6588 then you would s- 1796.4833 1215 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1796.4833 (pause 0.42) 1796.9016 1216 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1796.9016 see what was good about it. 1798.3154 1217 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1798.3154 (pause 0.64) 1798.9550 1218 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1798.9550 I happened to be in a bank the other morning and uh, 1801.0438 1219 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1801.0438 (pause 0.91) 1801.9489 1220 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1801.9489 I said, to a young lady, 1803.2406 1221 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1803.2406 (pause 0.24) 1803.4849 1222 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1803.4849 I says, good morning. 1804.4284 1223 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1804.4284 (pause 1.22) 1805.6512 1224 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1805.6512 She says, well, good morning, but I don't know what's good about it. 1807.9581 1225 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1807.9581 (pause 0.59) 1808.5505 1226 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1808.5505 And the- I answered her with- with the same things that I just said. 1811.9077 1227 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1811.9077 (pause 1.59) 1813.5017 1228 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1813.5017 And she says, you know what, 1814.4833 1229 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1814.4833 (pause 0.11) 1814.5932 1230 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1814.5932 I had never thought about it like that. 1816.4314 1231 DTA_int_03 1817.3550 [Uh-huh.] 1817.6787 1232 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1817.4253 [I says,] well, if we all would turn around and think /of/ and things and that every morning, when we get up, 1822.2028 1233 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1823.4985 we don't get up on our own, we think we do 1826.1077 1234 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1826.1077 (pause 0.58) 1826.6848 1235 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1826.6848 but, uh 1827.5236 1236 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1827.5236 (pause 0.25) 1827.7780 1237 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1827.7780 we don't get up on our own. 1829.1504 1238 DTA_int_03 1829.6085 Mm-hm. 1829.9771 1239 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1830.1734 It's- we get up 1831.3344 1240 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1831.3344 (pause 1.32) 1832.6573 1241 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1832.6573 because the good Lord wants us to get up. 1834.6894 1242 DTA_int_03 1834.9520 Mm-hm. 1835.3153 1243 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1835.4314 Because he gives us the strength. 1836.9624 1244 DTA_int_03 1837.3185 Mm-hm. 1837.6015 1245 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1837.6015 He gives us the mind, the willpower 1839.9245 1246 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1840.8023 to do 1841.3733 1247 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1841.3733 (pause 0.67) 1842.0390 1248 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1842.0390 and to get out of bed. 1843.0803 1249 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1843.0803 (pause 0.87) 1843.9520 1250 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1843.9520 But, if he says, no 1845.2039 1251 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1845.2039 (pause 0.11) 1845.3169 1252 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1845.3169 you not gonna get up this morning, 1847.6723 1253 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1847.6723 (pause 0.16) 1847.8344 1254 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1847.8344 you don't get up. 1848.7632 1255 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1848.7632 (pause 0.22) 1848.9856 1256 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1848.9856 Because 1849.7351 1257 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1849.7351 (pause 1.01) 1850.7489 1258 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1850.7489 he has all power to 1852.9123 1259 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1852.9123 (pause 0.81) 1853.7184 1260 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1853.7184 say whether you- 1854.6538 1261 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1854.6538 (pause 0.19) 1854.8476 1262 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1854.8476 me and uh, you sit here, or you move your fingers, or you keep 'em still. 1858.4406 1263 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1858.4406 (pause 2.49) 1860.9337 1264 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1860.9337 I think that- that bi- our world would be in much better shape 1863.9032 1265 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1863.9032 (pause 0.25) 1864.1536 1266 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1864.1536 if 1864.8298 1267 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1864.8298 (pause 2.12) 1866.9459 1268 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1866.9459 our- even our ministers 1868.7184 1269 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1868.7184 (pause 1.00) 1869.7138 1270 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1869.7138 and our churches would be a little more stricter 1872.2466 1271 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1872.2466 (pause 0.43) 1872.6741 1272 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1872.6741 talking to the members and they do. 1875.0940 1273 DTA_int_03 1875.4390 Yeah. 1875.7383 1274 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1876.6618 Because 1877.4194 1275 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1877.4194 (pause 0.22) 1877.6390 1276 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1877.6390 they 1878.2863 1277 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1878.2863 (pause 0.91) 1879.1932 1278 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1879.1932 give them a leeway of 1880.8772 1279 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1880.8772 (pause 0.86) 1881.7383 1280 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1881.7383 well, 1882.3368 1281 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1882.3368 (pause 0.33) 1882.6710 1282 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1882.6710 it's alright to do this. 1884.8177 1283 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1884.8177 (pause 1.24) 1886.0619 1284 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1886.0619 Uh, it's a- 1886.6023 1285 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1886.6023 (pause 0.60) 1887.2008 1286 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1887.2008 the Bible has 1888.2370 1287 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1888.2370 (pause 0.28) 1888.5139 1288 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1888.5139 a way, just like the Lord 1890.4237 1289 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1890.4237 (pause 0.73) 1891.1566 1290 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1891.1566 intended for us to do. And it's- the- it is 1894.0039 1291 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1894.0039 (pause 0.38) 1894.3795 1292 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1894.3795 just like it was 1895.7703 1293 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1895.7703 (pause 1.07) 1896.8360 1294 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1896.8360 today like it was 1898.4771 1295 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1898.4771 (pause 0.85) 1899.3321 1296 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1899.3321 a thousand years ago. 1901.1968 1297 DTA_int_03 1901.6207 People haven't changed. 1902.7871 1298 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1902.9093 I- no, the thing hasn't change- as far as uh 1906.1783 1299 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1906.1783 (pause 0.31) 1906.4839 1300 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1906.4839 you- as we call ourself Christian and living for 1910.0615 1301 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1910.0615 (pause 1.16) 1911.2228 1302 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1911.2228 our master 1912.1110 1303 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1912.1110 (pause 0.27) 1912.3769 1304 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1912.3769 we can live the same today as we did 1914.8941 1305 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1914.8941 (pause 0.72) 1915.6122 1306 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1915.6122 a thousand years ago. 1917.1402 1307 DTA_int_03 1917.4448 Mm-hm. 1917.7565 1308 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1917.7902 He hasn't changed. 1919.1318 1309 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1919.1318 (pause 0.92) 1920.0516 1310 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1920.0516 His way hasn't changed. 1921.6061 1311 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1921.6061 (pause 0.45) 1922.0554 1312 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1922.0554 We- it- As he says, if you have the faith 1924.8598 1313 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1924.8598 (pause 0.91) 1925.7735 1314 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1925.7735 to do. 1926.4324 1315 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1926.4324 (pause 1.82) 1928.2570 1316 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1928.2570 I mean, real faith and belief 1930.6275 1317 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1930.6275 (pause 0.18) 1930.8048 1318 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1930.8048 now, how strong is that faith? 1933.3396 1319 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1933.3396 (pause 1.73) 1935.0700 1320 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1935.0700 Alright, Jesus 1936.1416 1321 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1936.1416 (pause 0.21) 1936.3494 1322 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1936.3494 had the faith, he walked on the water. 1938.4145 1323 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1938.4145 (pause 0.55) 1938.9613 1324 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1938.9613 Now, we got to have that faith. 1940.5596 1325 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1940.5596 (pause 2.50) 1943.0615 1326 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1943.0615 You [would] 1943.6941 1327 DTA_int_03 1943.3125 [Have you been] in an accident? 1944.6693 1328 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1944.7382 [Yes.] 1945.3622 1329 DTA_int_03 1945.2577 [Serious accident?] 1946.2057 1330 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1945.8506 [Mm-hm.] 1946.3310 1331 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1946.8835 Never been hurt. 1947.6323 1332 DTA_int_03 1948.5878 Really? 1948.8506 1333 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1949.1990 That's right. 1949.8866 1334 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1949.8866 (pause 0.64) 1950.5314 1335 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1950.5314 I've had my- I had a m- 1952.0156 1336 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1952.0156 (pause 0.57) 1952.5840 1337 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1952.5840 wasn't I just got /?/ in a car and was talking about this morning and I- 1955.7154 1338 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1955.7154 (pause 0.39) 1956.1066 1339 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1956.1066 and I- I- and there is things that I give to 1959.6781 1340 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1959.6781 (pause 0.79) 1960.4686 1341 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1960.4686 the direction of the good Lord. 1961.7888 1342 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1961.7888 (pause 1.48) 1963.2730 1343 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1963.2730 And being s- you asked me, I'll tell you, I've suffered a little incidents, after I tell you 1967.0767 1344 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1967.0767 (pause 0.27) 1967.3457 1345 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1967.3457 this accident has caused, uh, 1969.2577 1346 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1969.2577 (pause 0.18) 1969.4411 1347 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1969.4411 was ju- on my side. 1970.9823 1348 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1970.9823 (pause 0.87) 1971.8482 1349 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1971.8482 Was just 1972.4624 1350 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1972.4624 (pause 0.16) 1972.6203 1351 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1972.6203 the driver side. But- uh, ju- was just completely demolished. 1976.5901 1352 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1976.5901 (pause 3.13) 1979.7246 1353 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1979.7246 But, uh, I didn't get one scratch. 1981.6244 1354 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1981.6244 (pause 1.89) 1983.5192 1355 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1983.5192 [But.] 1983.7657 1356 DTA_int_03 1983.5670 [Did you] think you were gonna be killed? 1985.1573 1357 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1985.7124 No. 1986.2869 1358 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1986.2869 (pause 0.90) 1987.1844 1359 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1987.1844 I never have that- I never have that thought on leaving and going no place, and I go quite a bit. 1991.5787 1360 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1991.5787 (pause 0.37) 1991.9446 1361 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1991.9446 And my family /stay often/, but I's tell him this, that's what was I just finna say 1995.1830 1362 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1995.1830 (pause 0.81) 1995.9979 1363 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1995.9979 I accept the Lord, might I say, uh, /leaving/. I says now, 1999.7283 1364 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1999.7283 (pause 0.12) 1999.8506 1365 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 1999.8506 um, 2000.5993 1366 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2000.5993 (pause 1.11) 2001.7056 1367 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2001.7056 father, you 2002.6397 1368 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2002.6397 (pause 0.41) 2003.0462 1369 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2003.0462 open the way. 2003.7485 1370 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2003.7485 (pause 4.21) 2007.9551 1371 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2007.9551 You 2008.6519 1372 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2008.6519 (pause 0.39) 2009.0431 1373 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2009.0431 guide me through all the stumbling blocks. 2011.3433 1374 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2011.3433 (pause 0.45) 2011.7956 1375 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2011.7956 And that's the way I go 2012.9568 1376 DTA_int_03 2013.5792 And if he [wants /inaudible/] 2015.0089 1377 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2014.0684 [And I feel-] I feel as I'm taken care of. 2016.9337 1378 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2017.7650 I have my dad and my mother 2019.8910 1379 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2019.8910 (pause 0.93) 2020.8231 1380 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2020.8231 which, they are passed. 2022.4030 1381 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2022.4030 (pause 0.31) 2022.7137 1382 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2022.7137 And they- 2023.0774 1383 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2023.0774 (pause 0.33) 2023.4074 1384 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2023.4074 and- but I have my. 2024.6329 1385 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2024.6329 (pause 0.58) 2025.2135 1386 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2025.2135 And my dad, my mother, 2026.2516 1387 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2026.2516 (pause 0.41) 2026.6580 1388 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2026.6580 wife, 2027.2027 1389 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2027.2027 (pause 0.19) 2027.3976 1390 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2027.3976 in this 2028.2686 1391 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2028.2686 (pause 0.45) 2028.7168 1392 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2028.7168 n- 2028.8604 1393 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2028.8604 (pause 0.35) 2029.2149 1394 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2029.2149 daughter here was a baby. 2030.7674 1395 DTA_int_03 2030.9049 Mm-hm. 2031.2135 1396 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2032.3188 And we was coming 2033.8193 1397 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2033.8193 (pause 0.24) 2034.0577 1398 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2034.0577 from down in Tennessee back to Indiana. 2036.8315 1399 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2036.8315 (pause 0.52) 2037.3541 1400 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2037.3541 That's where I lived at that time. 2038.4380 1401 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2038.4380 (pause 0.46) 2038.8964 1402 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2038.8964 I was driving and 2040.1708 1403 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2040.1708 (pause 0.32) 2040.4886 1404 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2040.4886 these roads, uh, 2041.9147 1405 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2041.9147 (pause 0.38) 2042.2937 1406 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2042.2937 you don't see many of 'em now, but it's up and down 2044.8139 1407 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2044.8139 (pause 0.39) 2045.2081 1408 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2045.2081 and only the 2045.7429 1409 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2045.7429 (pause 0.57) 2046.3113 1410 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2046.3113 two 2046.9215 1411 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2046.9215 (pause 1.01) 2047.9361 1412 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2047.9361 uh 2048.5809 1413 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2048.5809 (pause 0.64) 2049.2196 1414 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2049.2196 wasn't hardly two 2050.2445 1415 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2050.2445 (pause 0.08) 2050.3235 1416 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2050.3235 car wides length. You'd have to 2051.9813 1417 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2051.9813 (pause 0.26) 2052.2410 1418 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2052.2410 get off of the roads and 2053.5786 1419 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2053.5786 (pause 0.19) 2053.7711 1420 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2053.7711 let the cars go by, 2055.1495 1421 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2055.1495 (pause 0.09) 2055.2441 1422 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2055.2441 see. 2055.4916 1423 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2055.4916 (pause 0.85) 2056.3463 1424 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2056.3463 Well, I was going up a hill. 2057.5809 1425 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2057.5809 (pause 0.36) 2057.9446 1426 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2057.9446 And you couldn't see no further than the top of the hill, but there's a space over here for 2061.5945 1427 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2061.5945 (pause 0.68) 2062.2791 1428 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2062.2791 me to- where- where I could pull off, 2063.9721 1429 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2063.9721 (pause 0.38) 2064.3480 1430 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2064.3480 you know. 2064.6801 1431 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2064.6801 (pause 1.44) 2066.1195 1432 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2066.1195 And I just pulled over and stopped. 2068.3707 1433 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2068.3707 (pause 0.27) 2068.6456 1434 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2068.6456 And 2069.0094 1435 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2069.0094 (pause 0.26) 2069.2692 1436 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2069.2692 My dad says to me, whatchu stopping for? And 2071.9667 1437 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2071.9667 (pause 0.17) 2072.1317 1438 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2072.1317 just about the time I got ready to tell him, 2073.9032 1439 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2073.9032 (pause 0.81) 2074.7100 1440 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2074.7100 here come a truck and a car. 2076.4488 1441 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2076.4488 (pause 0.81) 2077.2607 1442 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2077.2607 And this car was passing the truck. 2079.0699 1443 DTA_int_03 2079.7229 Mm-hm. 2080.1262 1444 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2082.8247 And I f- if I hadn't've stopped, 2084.8437 1445 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2084.8437 (pause 0.61) 2085.4488 1446 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2085.4488 we'd've met that car head on. 2086.8689 1447 DTA_int_03 2089.5663 My grandfather was killed in an accident like that. 2092.1446 1448 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2092.6580 Well, 2093.0125 1449 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2093.0125 (pause 0.47) 2093.4801 1450 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2093.4801 what do you think stopped me? 2095.0560 1451 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2095.0560 (pause 1.33) 2096.3823 1452 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2096.3823 What stopped me? 2097.0803 1453 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2097.0803 (pause 0.57) 2097.6536 1454 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2097.6536 What caused me to do it? 2098.6702 1455 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2098.6702 (pause 2.83) 2101.5052 1456 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2101.5052 That's why I got- 2102.0644 1457 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2102.0644 (pause 1.64) 2103.7055 1458 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2103.7055 /?/ 2103.9093 1459 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2103.9093 (pause 1.01) 2104.9177 1460 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2104.9177 Because uh, 2105.8193 1461 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2105.8193 (pause 0.69) 2106.5130 1462 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2106.5130 That, as I say, that's my 2108.5595 1463 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2108.5595 (pause 0.37) 2108.9293 1464 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2108.9293 when I leave, 2109.9031 1465 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2109.9031 (pause 1.29) 2111.1958 1466 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2111.1958 take care of 'em, and guide me, 2112.5175 1467 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2112.5175 (pause 0.07) 2112.5893 1468 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2112.5893 sh- so he 2113.5724 1469 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2113.5724 (pause 0.88) 2114.4556 1470 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2114.4556 pulled me over and stopped me. 2115.5436 1471 DTA_int_03 2116.1717 Mm-hm. 2116.4721 1472 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2119.9697 So, uh, those, uh, those kind of things, as I say, that's one of the incidents that I feel that I was taken care of. It's 2127.5252 1473 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2127.5252 (pause 0.37) 2127.8940 1474 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2127.8940 well, uh, 2128.3615 1475 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2128.3615 (pause 0.82) 2129.1836 1476 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2129.1836 kept me from being hurt, uh, the- 2130.7809 1477 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2130.7809 (pause 0.42) 2131.1965 1478 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2131.1965 and that was the whole family. 2132.4648 1479 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2132.4648 (pause 2.10) 2134.5602 1480 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2134.5602 I had another incident when my 2136.5710 1481 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2136.5710 (pause 1.03) 2137.5999 1482 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2137.5999 uh, mother passed. 2139.0729 1483 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2139.0729 (pause 2.29) 2141.3639 1484 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2141.3639 Uh. 2141.8559 1485 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2141.8559 (pause 1.12) 2142.9795 1486 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2142.9795 We hadn't- 2143.7344 1487 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2143.7344 (pause 0.44) 2144.1775 1488 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2144.1775 My wife- uh taking care of my mother, thought as much my mother was her mother. 2148.1890 1489 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2148.1890 (pause 1.52) 2149.7099 1490 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2149.7099 And uh, my mother was- 2151.4152 1491 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2151.4152 (pause 0.45) 2151.8603 1492 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2151.8603 we had- 2152.2179 1493 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2152.2179 (pause 0.16) 2152.3737 1494 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2152.3737 had her staying with us. She was sick at the time and 2155.0559 1495 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2155.0559 (pause 0.55) 2155.6060 1496 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2155.6060 we'd gone and got her. She had never been here. We brought her here, she hadn't ever been here, but she wanted to come here to see our home. 2160.9074 1497 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2160.9074 (pause 1.22) 2162.1286 1498 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2162.1286 And I went and got her, she was sick and I brought her here, and 2164.7038 1499 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2164.7038 (pause 0.14) 2164.8474 1500 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2164.8474 uh, 2165.2844 1501 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2165.2844 (pause 0.34) 2165.6206 1502 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2165.6206 we brought her here, and she stayed and of course, she got up, was much better while she was here. 2169.2165 1503 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2169.2165 (pause 1.65) 2170.8627 1504 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2170.8627 /And but I-/ she had stayed her time out, she might say she wanted, say she wanted to go home and uh. 2176.1415 1505 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2176.1415 (pause 1.68) 2177.8223 1506 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2177.8223 We /taken/ her home. 2178.7925 1507 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2178.7925 (pause 0.33) 2179.1262 1508 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2179.1262 Well, I taken her home and about two- 2181.3265 1509 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2181.3265 (pause 1.22) 2182.5510 1510 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2182.5510 Was it two month or one month? 2183.9415 1511 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2183.9415 (pause 0.92) 2184.8613 1512 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2184.8613 About a month after I had taken her home, she went into a coma. 2187.6768 1513 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2187.6768 (pause 1.84) 2189.5136 1514 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2189.5136 Then, uh, 2190.0362 1515 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2190.0362 (pause 1.54) 2191.5785 1516 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2191.5785 they 2192.1347 1517 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2192.1347 (pause 0.35) 2192.4861 1518 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2192.4861 uh, 2193.0148 1519 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2193.0148 (pause 0.72) 2193.7350 1520 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2193.7350 my brother 2194.3798 1521 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2194.3798 (pause 0.24) 2194.6152 1522 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2194.6152 called me and told me what had happened and 2196.7147 1523 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2196.7147 (pause 1.30) 2198.0124 1524 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2198.0124 I talked to the white and the 2199.3669 1525 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2199.3669 (pause 0.34) 2199.7093 1526 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2199.7093 wife said well, 2200.6243 1527 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2200.6243 (pause 0.20) 2200.8291 1528 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2200.8291 said she's in a coma, said she wouldn't know nothing about us going. 2203.8994 1529 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2203.8994 (pause 1.86) 2205.7605 1530 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2205.7605 Uh. 2206.1598 1531 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2206.1598 (pause 0.11) 2206.2698 1532 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2206.2698 Coming? I says, no. 2207.5778 1533 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2207.5778 (pause 0.25) 2207.8284 1534 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2207.8284 So, 2208.2501 1535 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2208.2501 (pause 0.13) 2208.3754 1536 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2208.3754 I just, then I told my brother that uh, 2210.7275 1537 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2210.7275 (pause 1.07) 2211.8002 1538 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2211.8002 we wouldn't come. Uh, 2213.3226 1539 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2213.3226 (pause 0.20) 2213.5258 1540 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2213.5258 say if sh- anything happened, if she passed, well, just let us know. Course, she passed and 2217.9459 1541 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2217.9459 (pause 1.45) 2219.3914 1542 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2219.3914 they 2219.9659 1543 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2219.9659 (pause 0.19) 2220.1584 1544 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2220.1584 called me and told me she'd passed and 2222.0155 1545 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2222.0155 (pause 1.07) 2223.0820 1546 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2223.0820 then uh, 2223.7167 1547 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2223.7167 (pause 0.71) 2224.4226 1548 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2224.4226 I pictured in my mind they hadn't set when the funeral was gonna be 2227.6977 1549 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2227.6977 (pause 0.68) 2228.3761 1550 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2228.3761 and actually working and I had to pick time to get off from the job. And not be off too long. They was kind of hard on you s- being off. 2236.5632 1551 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2236.5632 (pause 0.28) 2236.8443 1552 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2236.8443 didn't make any difference what. 2238.3082 1553 DTA_int_03 2238.7686 Mm-hm. 2239.0620 1554 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2239.4593 And uh, 2240.2313 1555 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2240.2313 (pause 0.97) 2241.2043 1556 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2241.2043 if you went to a funeral, you had to 2243.2569 1557 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2243.2569 (pause 0.35) 2243.6083 1558 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2243.6083 bring some kind of proof back or something if /?/ you'd gone to the funeral. That's what it was at that time 2248.1017 1559 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2248.1017 (pause 0.72) 2248.8199 1560 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2248.8199 in the factory. 2249.5228 1561 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2249.5228 (pause 0.73) 2250.2532 1562 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2250.2532 So, uh, 2250.9642 1563 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2250.9642 (pause 0.40) 2251.3676 1564 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2251.3676 I told my brother, well uh, 2253.1645 1565 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2253.1645 (pause 2.12) 2255.2813 1566 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2255.2813 when- when you get the arrangements made, let me know when they 2258.7367 1567 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2258.7367 (pause 0.46) 2259.1981 1568 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2259.1981 w- we gonna bury her. 2260.4501 1569 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2260.4501 (pause 0.72) 2261.1652 1570 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2261.1652 And I pictured in my mind, then what 2263.4012 1571 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2263.4012 (pause 0.68) 2264.0796 1572 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2264.0796 n- before I said anything, what day they was gonna bury her, when I come home from work, 2267.5167 1573 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2267.5167 (pause 1.99) 2269.5020 1574 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2269.5020 the wife says to me, she- they'll bury my mother tomorrow, see. 2272.7618 1575 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2272.7618 (pause 0.58) 2273.3394 1576 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2273.3394 And I had they was gonna bury her the next day. That's what I'd pictured it in my mind. 2277.0484 1577 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2277.0484 (pause 1.03) 2278.0742 1578 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2278.0742 After they was gonna bury her to- 2280.0117 1579 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2280.0117 (pause 0.75) 2280.7625 1580 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2280.7625 back tomorrow, when I come in the- 2282.4402 1581 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2282.4402 (pause 0.20) 2282.6358 1582 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2282.6358 that time, I was working days. Come in at four o'clock in the afternoon. 2285.4341 1583 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2285.4341 (pause 1.03) 2286.4640 1584 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2286.4640 And she told me, well, 2287.7587 1585 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2287.7587 (pause 0.20) 2287.9574 1586 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2287.9574 from here to Indianapolis, Indiana is almost three hundred miles. I says, well, we get ready 2292.5587 1587 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2292.5587 (pause 1.34) 2293.8993 1588 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2293.8993 go. 2294.2722 1589 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2294.2722 (pause 1.37) 2295.6443 1590 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2295.6443 So, it was the end of February. So, we got ready, and started and about- when I got out here, Coldwater 2300.6022 1591 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2300.6022 (pause 0.81) 2301.4121 1592 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2301.4121 you could just see fog. 2302.6360 1593 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2302.6360 (pause 0.59) 2303.2263 1594 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2303.2263 Just like a wall. 2304.4701 1595 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2304.4701 (pause 0.28) 2304.7513 1596 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2304.7513 That's- just fact, just rolling, 2306.4372 1597 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2306.4372 (pause 0.45) 2306.8864 1598 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2306.8864 coming, we had never got into it, we just. 2308.7893 1599 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2308.7893 (pause 1.37) 2310.1615 1600 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2310.1615 So, I said to the wife, I says, know what, boy, says, the way that fog looks, say this gonna get bad. 2314.4623 1601 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2314.4623 (pause 1.07) 2315.5303 1602 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2315.5303 And sure enough, when we got into it, you. 2318.1377 1603 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2318.1377 (pause 2.20) 2320.3370 1604 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2320.3370 Well, I k- 2321.5533 1605 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2321.5533 (pause 0.35) 2321.9078 1606 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2321.9078 you- uh, I couldn't see fence posts just looking off of the highway 2325.9428 1607 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2325.9428 (pause 0.35) 2326.2881 1608 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2326.2881 to the side. 2326.9635 1609 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2326.9635 (pause 1.27) 2328.2348 1610 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2328.2348 But down the highway, my lights is surely 2330.9689 1611 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2330.9689 (pause 1.00) 2331.9703 1612 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2331.9703 just as bright as any night. 2333.8161 1613 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2333.8161 (pause 1.67) 2335.4867 1614 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2335.4867 Uh. I had ever drove. 2336.6664 1615 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2336.6664 (pause 2.33) 2338.9972 1616 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2338.9972 /Well/ 2339.4188 1617 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2339.4188 (pause 1.45) 2340.8694 1618 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2340.8694 I drove along and 2342.0368 1619 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2342.0368 (pause 0.26) 2342.2966 1620 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2342.2966 and hadn't said nothing to the wife about it. And I noticed people I were passing, they was just creeping. Well, I was driving about 2348.2966 1621 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2348.2966 (pause 0.31) 2348.6022 1622 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2348.6022 forty-five, fifty 2349.7716 1623 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2349.7716 (pause 0.52) 2350.2881 1624 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2350.2881 that time and uh, 2351.8069 1625 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2351.8069 (pause 0.33) 2352.1339 1626 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2352.1339 fifty-five, that was 2353.3327 1627 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2353.3327 (pause 0.22) 2353.5570 1628 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2353.5570 good speed. 2354.3546 1629 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2354.3546 (pause 0.55) 2354.9017 1630 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2354.9017 And I could see just as far down to- the 2356.6548 1631 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2356.6548 (pause 0.20) 2356.8565 1632 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2356.8565 road as ever, I saw with my light. 2358.7533 1633 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2358.7533 (pause 3.41) 2362.1597 1634 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2362.1597 So, finally, I said the wife, I says, say, I says, can you see 2365.5815 1635 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2365.5815 (pause 2.22) 2367.8001 1636 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2367.8001 uh, the fence posts and telephone posts? She says no. I says, but I can 2371.6059 1637 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2371.6059 (pause 1.50) 2373.1034 1638 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2373.1034 uh, 2373.8032 1639 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2373.8032 (pause 0.68) 2374.4867 1640 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2374.4867 see down the highway. 2375.7489 1641 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2375.7489 (pause 0.46) 2376.2042 1642 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2376.2042 And she said, but these people we passing, they must can't see, uh, it must be foggy. 2380.4925 1643 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2380.4925 (pause 2.04) 2382.5282 1644 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2382.5282 So, I drove on to Indianapolis. 2385.0636 1645 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2385.0636 (pause 1.08) 2386.1475 1646 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2386.1475 And I got into Indianapolis, and the streetlights /you been in-/ to look like a match. 2390.2196 1647 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2390.2196 (pause 1.06) 2391.2776 1648 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2391.2776 And. 2391.6718 1649 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2391.6718 (pause 2.32) 2393.9933 1650 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2393.9933 So. 2394.2225 1651 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2394.2225 (pause 0.52) 2394.7380 1652 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2394.7380 Um. My- my brother 2396.1743 1653 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2396.1743 (pause 0.65) 2396.8253 1654 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2396.8253 they know 2397.5068 1655 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2397.5068 (pause 1.04) 2398.5509 1656 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2398.5509 how far it was, you know, where I came from. 2400.3686 1657 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2400.3686 (pause 0.48) 2400.8480 1658 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2400.8480 So he's a- 2401.5937 1659 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2401.5937 (pause 0.23) 2401.8198 1660 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2401.8198 I got there 2402.5808 1661 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2402.5808 (pause 0.85) 2403.4273 1662 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2403.4273 to Indiana 2404.0619 1663 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2404.0619 (pause 0.90) 2404.9665 1664 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2404.9665 h- and he says uh, 2405.9750 1665 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2405.9750 (pause 2.22) 2408.1957 1666 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2408.1957 what time did you start? 2409.4854 1667 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2409.4854 (pause 2.02) 2411.5074 1668 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2411.5074 Uh. I says (laughing). [] 2412.5607 1669 DTA_int_03 2412.1522 [And you] told him 2413.2667 1670 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2413.3859 [] 2413.9298 1671 DTA_int_03 2413.3859 [] 2414.3882 1672 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2415.0361 [Uh.] 2415.3478 1673 DTA_int_03 2415.0728 [And he said.] 2415.8938 1674 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2415.9641 Yeah. I says uh. 2417.1774 1675 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2417.1774 (pause 0.59) 2417.7672 1676 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2417.7672 Well, I says, I worked. 2418.9519 1677 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2418.9519 (pause 1.10) 2420.0551 1678 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2420.0551 You worked? 2420.7183 1679 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2420.7183 (pause 0.42) 2421.1431 1680 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2421.1431 You could le- I said yup. 2422.3064 1681 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2422.3064 (pause 2.44) 2424.7451 1682 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2424.7451 Wasn't awfully foggy? I says, well I says, uh, 2427.7129 1683 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2427.7129 (pause 1.08) 2428.7954 1684 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2428.7954 I guess it was, I says, but 2430.2317 1685 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2430.2317 (pause 0.97) 2431.2025 1686 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2431.2025 I says, I could see. 2432.6408 1687 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2432.6408 (pause 1.54) 2434.1780 1688 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2434.1780 I says, uh. 2435.1346 1689 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2435.1346 (pause 1.12) 2436.2561 1690 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2436.2561 Course, I said the street lights out there look like matches, I said, but I could see down the road. 2440.3797 1691 DTA_int_03 2442.9580 That's true. 2443.6028 1692 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2445.2134 To- 2445.6229 1693 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2445.6229 (pause 1.26) 2446.8809 1694 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2446.8809 they 2447.2996 1695 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2447.2996 (pause 1.10) 2448.3998 1696 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2448.3998 wondered, I says, well I says I guess it's 2451.0077 1697 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2451.0077 (pause 1.96) 2452.9654 1698 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2452.9654 one of those things. 2454.1920 1699 DTA_int_03 2456.2996 If someone /looks out for you/ 2457.7117 1700 DTA_int_03 2457.7117 (pause 1.14) 2458.8565 1701 DTA_int_03 2458.8565 /inaudible/ 2459.5618 1702 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2463.1736 So, I. 2463.7777 1703 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2463.7777 (pause 1.72) 2465.4952 1704 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2465.4952 Mm. 2465.6419 1705 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2465.6419 (pause 0.21) 2465.8527 1706 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2465.8527 Go on living. 2466.9855 1707 DTA_int_03 2467.5234 Mm-hm. 2467.9413 1708 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2469.0300 No wonder- 2469.6768 1709 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2469.6768 (pause 1.53) 2471.2079 1710 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2471.2079 There's somebody. 2472.1828 1711 DTA_int_03 2477.4768 /inaudible/ 2479.5356 1712 DTA_int_03 2479.5356 (pause 4.27) 2483.8069 1713 DTA_int_03 2483.8069 Do you pray 2484.4364 1714 DTA_int_03 2484.4364 (pause 0.35) 2484.7899 1715 DTA_int_03 2484.7899 i- 2484.9121 1716 DTA_int_03 2484.9121 (pause 0.23) 2485.1383 1717 DTA_int_03 2485.1383 do you ever pray 2486.0093 1718 DTA_int_03 2486.0093 (pause 0.23) 2486.2354 1719 DTA_int_03 2486.2354 for things? 2487.1747 1720 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2487.4853 Yes. 2488.2330 1721 DTA_int_03 2488.8534 You know. 2489.2507 1722 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2489.9505 I pray 2490.7410 1723 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2490.7410 (pause 0.76) 2491.5020 1724 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2491.5020 uh. 2492.0123 1725 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2492.0123 (pause 2.27) 2494.2819 1726 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2494.2819 And I feel my prayers answered. The ones that- You see, and that's another thing that people, 2499.8541 1727 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2499.8541 (pause 0.77) 2500.6211 1728 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2500.6211 in praying 2501.3821 1729 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2501.3821 (pause 1.47) 2502.8510 1730 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2502.8510 prayer 2503.3094 1731 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2503.3094 (pause 2.76) 2506.0680 1732 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2506.0680 they pray, but uh, you pray, you /ge- I-/ you pray for things and then you turn around and wonder, is I gonna get it? 2511.5373 1733 DTA_int_03 2512.0160 Mm-hm. 2512.3614 1734 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2513.4537 Or wonder, is it gonna happen? 2515.5294 1735 DTA_int_03 2515.9940 Mm-hm. 2516.2873 1736 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2518.3308 Then, you're not praying. 2519.6052 1737 DTA_int_03 2521.1413 Yeah. 2521.4347 1738 DTA_int_03 2521.4347 (pause 0.35) 2521.7800 1739 DTA_int_03 2521.7800 Yeah, you- 2522.2648 1740 DTA_int_03 2522.2648 (pause 0.29) 2522.5563 1741 DTA_int_03 2522.5563 you /inaudible/. 2523.0366 1742 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2522.6535 [You're ask that- you're] asking. 2524.6840 1743 DTA_int_03 2523.3980 /inaudible/. 2523.6289 1744 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2526.3967 Yeah. 2526.6982 1745 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2526.6982 (pause 0.76) 2527.4561 1746 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2527.4561 If you pray for something, you forget it. 2529.4293 1747 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2529.4293 (pause 0.14) 2529.5729 1748 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2529.5729 Because you know 2530.7678 1749 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2530.7678 (pause 0.32) 2531.0856 1750 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2531.0856 if you feel that you- 2532.5281 1751 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2532.5281 (pause 1.09) 2533.6150 1752 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2533.6150 uh, 2534.1682 1753 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2534.1682 (pause 0.45) 2534.6174 1754 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2534.6174 we say a child of God and a Christian person 2537.1743 1755 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2537.1743 (pause 1.50) 2538.6748 1756 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2538.6748 one of His children, and you pray, then you 2541.1492 1757 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2541.1492 (pause 0.69) 2541.8367 1758 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2541.8367 a- asked Him for something, you forget it. 2544.0483 1759 DTA_int_03 2545.7637 [/inaudible/] 2547.5532 1760 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2546.0123 You don't [start and wond-] 2547.2225 1761 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2547.2225 (pause 0.22) 2547.4415 1762 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2547.4415 [That's] right. 2548.1230 1763 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2549.3485 He- he's never late. Um,, you may have- well the other way I saw it, 2552.8894 1764 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2552.8894 (pause 0.62) 2553.5087 1765 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2553.5087 sh- 2553.6951 1766 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2553.6951 (pause 0.37) 2554.0649 1767 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2554.0649 they quote it, but I can't quote it just like it- I says, he's never late, he's always on time. 2558.0031 1768 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2558.0031 (pause 2.36) 2560.3583 1769 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2560.3583 We- you see, but we think, well I didn't get this- 2563.2574 1770 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2563.2574 (pause 1.14) 2564.3973 1771 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2564.3973 I says, I sa- I'm praying and wondering if I'm gonna get it. Now, 2567.5593 1772 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2567.5593 (pause 0.70) 2568.2622 1773 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2568.2622 now I prayed and 2569.4408 1774 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2569.4408 (pause 0.17) 2569.6089 1775 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2569.6089 I didn't get it. 2570.4829 1776 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2570.4829 (pause 0.64) 2571.1277 1777 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2571.1277 See. 2571.3844 1778 DTA_int_03 2571.7074 Yeah. 2571.9221 1779 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2573.4035 I pray today and I ask for something, uh tonight when I uh go to bed, and I ask for something and I 2580.0727 1780 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2580.0727 (pause 1.18) 2581.2513 1781 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2581.2513 then I get up s- and go, well now, I- I know it's gonna happen and I don't- uh, 2585.7763 1782 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2585.7763 (pause 0.21) 2585.9871 1783 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2585.9871 When? 2586.5495 1784 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2586.5495 (pause 0.37) 2586.9182 1785 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2586.9182 I don't know. 2587.4714 1786 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2587.4714 (pause 1.76) 2589.2316 1787 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2589.2316 But in time. 2590.0343 1788 DTA_int_03 2590.8961 Are there anythings you can 2592.2927 1789 DTA_int_03 2592.2927 (pause 0.28) 2592.5698 1790 DTA_int_03 2592.5698 I mean, 2592.8688 1791 DTA_int_03 2592.8688 (pause 0.53) 2593.3980 1792 DTA_int_03 2593.3980 funny little things you can do 2594.8038 1793 DTA_int_03 2594.8038 (pause 0.63) 2595.4364 1794 DTA_int_03 2595.4364 that you don't really believe in 2596.7678 1795 DTA_int_03 2596.7678 (pause 0.62) 2597.3912 1796 DTA_int_03 2597.3912 to get a wish? 2598.1691 1797 DTA_int_03 2598.1691 (pause 0.88) 2599.0527 1798 DTA_int_03 2599.0527 You know, if it's something you'r e not serious. 2600.6265 1799 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2600.7641 Something not serious, /in/ [uh.] 2602.6058 1800 DTA_int_03 2602.3430 [A] chicken bone or [something.] 2603.9596 1801 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2603.8221 [N- uh.] 2605.0985 1802 DTA_int_03 2604.5423 [Did you ever] 2605.0618 1803 DTA_int_03 2605.7800 do that? 2606.2633 1804 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2606.3222 Well, uh, 2607.6350 1805 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2607.6350 (pause 0.13) 2607.7664 1806 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2607.7664 Yeah, I 2608.5905 1807 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2608.5905 (pause 0.36) 2608.9481 1808 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2608.9481 have 2609.3393 1809 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2609.3393 (pause 0.35) 2609.6846 1810 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2609.6846 in other words, you mean do little things yourself [that d- d-] 2612.3912 1811 DTA_int_03 2611.6700 [Yeah. That's right] to have a wish. When it's- when it's [not important enough to bother] the [deity.] 2616.0436 1812 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2613.7257 [Mm.] 2613.8693 1813 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2613.8693 (pause 0.34) 2614.2116 1814 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2614.2116 [/?/] 2614.6394 1815 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2614.6394 (pause 0.17) 2614.8136 1816 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2614.8136 [N-] 2615.0245 1817 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2615.0245 (pause 0.66) 2615.6815 1818 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2615.6815 [And] oh. Uh. Well, now. 2617.8350 1819 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2618.1162 Those things, yeah. I used to. Well, we used to take a chicken bone and we'd break it and make a wish and see [if it comes] true. Yeah, I did that. 2624.2415 1820 DTA_int_03 2622.6309 [Uh-huh] 2622.8571 1821 DTA_int_03 2622.8571 (pause 1.10) 2623.9603 1822 DTA_int_03 2623.9603 [Yeah.] 2624.2375 1823 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2625.1674 I did that and I don't know if I ever know of one that I made a wish come true, really. [ Now (laughing)] I don't. 2631.7040 1824 DTA_int_03 2629.4038 [] 2630.8734 1825 DTA_int_03 2630.8734 (pause 0.81) 2631.6854 1826 DTA_int_03 2631.6854 [] 2632.1413 1827 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2631.7722 [Being f-] truthfully I don't know if I've ever m- made one and know that it come true. But I had did that quite often. Oh. I- 2638.2207 1828 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2638.5905 I get the- 2639.3392 1829 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2639.3392 (pause 0.90) 2640.2347 1830 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2640.2347 wishbone, we call it, of the [chicken and] every- They break it and make a wish. And [I know] I have a. 2645.7426 1831 DTA_int_03 2641.5049 [Yeah.] 2641.7966 1832 DTA_int_03 2641.7966 (pause 2.93) 2644.7219 1833 DTA_int_03 2644.7219 [] 2645.1803 1834 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2646.2530 And so, s- I have several of those little things that- those little 2649.8795 1835 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2649.8795 (pause 0.22) 2650.1015 1836 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2650.1015 [funny things /unintelligible/.] 2651.2659 1837 DTA_int_03 2650.1037 [Oh yeah?] 2650.4977 1838 DTA_int_03 2650.4977 (pause 0.39) 2650.8840 1839 DTA_int_03 2650.8840 [Can you tell me about 'em?] 2651.7507 1840 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2651.6021 [Mm.] 2651.7396 1841 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2652.5983 Well, I say, but I don't know if never- [I did 'em and.] 2655.4089 1842 DTA_int_03 2654.8374 [You don't believe] in them. But what are the ones you don't believe in? I know the one you do believe [in.] 2658.9190 1843 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2658.7532 [Well. That's actually a very-] 2660.5959 1844 DTA_int_03 2659.3858 [] 2660.5073 1845 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2660.9963 Well, well, when I was small, 2662.8258 1846 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2662.8258 (pause 0.81) 2663.6357 1847 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2663.6357 I had- I believed in this little thing we talked about. But af- but after I grew up, I didn't believe in it. I found it just nothing to it, and we didn't. 2670.4363 1848 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2670.4363 (pause 0.70) 2671.1321 1849 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2671.1321 Uh. It wasn't anything. Just something p- uh 2674.2024 1850 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2674.2024 (pause 0.12) 2674.3216 1851 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2674.3216 pass time, uh, 2675.4129 1852 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2675.4129 (pause 0.39) 2675.8007 1853 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2675.8007 something, but it wasn't anything [to it.] 2677.2116 1854 DTA_int_03 2677.1260 [Things] that if they were there, you felt like you had to make a wish. 2679.8183 1855 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2679.8234 As if [i-] 2680.5661 1856 DTA_int_03 2680.3735 [You know with] 2680.8380 1857 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2680.8350 N- uh. [I-] You go- make a- take a wishbone an- to get it, see. And 2684.9657 1858 DTA_int_03 2681.4129 [a wishing well.] 2681.7685 1859 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2685.1338 I- b- but I found out- we- that di- no, no, any of [that's not true.] [I-] 2688.2010 1860 DTA_int_03 2687.0795 [Mm-hm.] 2687.6601 1861 DTA_int_03 2687.6601 (pause 0.29) 2687.9474 1862 DTA_int_03 2687.9474 [] 2688.3844 1863 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2688.7206 And when you- you wo- and things that you're making a wish for with that wishbone, 2692.4560 1864 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2692.4560 (pause 0.46) 2692.9205 1865 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2692.9205 /if it one/ way to get it. Now, if it's something that's to be purchased, uh, uh. Something like I did, you try to make a way to get it and then purchase it after, [] 2700.3279 1866 DTA_int_03 2699.9474 [Yeah.] 2700.2102 1867 DTA_int_03 2700.5127 [Yeah.] 2700.7406 1868 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2700.6975 [that's] the only way that's coming true, see. 2702.7334 1869 DTA_int_03 2702.7334 Yeah. 2702.9535 1870 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2703.6350 So, wait a mo- 2704.6883 1871 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2704.6883 (pause 0.87) 2705.5593 1872 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2705.5593 but you get out here and 2707.1626 1873 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2707.1626 (pause 0.58) 2707.7463 1874 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2707.7463 I was gonna say to you, I had a little 2709.8509 1875 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2709.8509 (pause 0.94) 2710.7922 1876 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2710.7922 something that happened, that was here. 2712.4529 1877 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2712.4529 (pause 0.09) 2712.5462 1878 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2712.5462 And that- this was another incident 2714.1956 1879 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2714.1956 (pause 1.83) 2716.0251 1880 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2716.0251 that uh 2716.9419 1881 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2716.9419 (pause 0.15) 2717.0886 1882 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2717.0886 you might say that i- 2718.3722 1883 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2718.3722 (pause 0.72) 2719.0893 1884 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2719.0893 you know, my 2719.7555 1885 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2719.7555 (pause 0.72) 2720.4706 1886 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2720.4706 uh, 2721.0360 1887 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2721.0360 (pause 0.55) 2721.5861 1888 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2721.5861 heavenly father 2722.4774 1889 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2722.4774 (pause 0.58) 2723.0581 1890 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2723.0581 provided for me. And this looks like a 2725.3674 1891 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2725.3674 (pause 0.15) 2725.5141 1892 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2725.5141 you might see, one of those things that you speaking of now. 2727.9457 1893 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2727.9457 (pause 1.36) 2729.3086 1894 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2729.3086 Because it was a- 2730.5555 1895 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2730.5555 (pause 0.18) 2730.7358 1896 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2730.7358 I got a court summon. 2731.7677 1897 DTA_int_03 2732.1589 Mm-hm. 2732.4401 1898 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2732.9504 And that was through this way, 2734.2604 1899 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2734.2604 (pause 0.17) 2734.4255 1900 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2734.4255 man sold my home. 2735.5929 1901 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2735.5929 (pause 1.61) 2737.2054 1902 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2737.2054 At that time and 2738.2170 1903 DTA_int_03 2738.6142 Mm-hm. 2738.9379 1904 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2739.3538 I told him, don't sell my home now 2741.4920 1905 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2741.4920 (pause 0.35) 2741.8465 1906 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2741.8465 unless you can get the money, 2743.6516 1907 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2743.6516 (pause 0.59) 2744.2384 1908 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2744.2384 enough money to make the down payment on the home in which you want to sell us. He had a home that he wanted to sell us, see. 2749.9223 1909 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2749.9223 (pause 2.23) 2752.1565 1910 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2752.1565 And uh, I- 2753.5531 1911 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2753.5531 (pause 0.46) 2754.0115 1912 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2754.0115 I says because I know I won't have any cash money 2756.7670 1913 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2756.7670 (pause 0.14) 2756.9046 1914 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2756.9046 pay it. So, 2757.4883 1915 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2757.4883 (pause 0.75) 2758.2421 1916 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2758.2421 I left it up to him and so he come and, 2760.3905 1917 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2760.3905 (pause 1.48) 2761.8655 1918 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2761.8655 well, I had sold the home. 2763.1368 1919 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2763.1368 (pause 0.82) 2763.9609 1920 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2763.9609 He'd brought some people out and showed it to 'em 2765.9321 1921 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2765.9321 (pause 1.21) 2767.1443 1922 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2767.1443 in here. So after he'd been /made a deal-/ Well, you'll sold the home? And I says, well, okay fine. 2772.2377 1923 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2772.2377 (pause 1.30) 2773.5385 1924 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2773.5385 So, he says, uh, they'll be out and, uh, 2775.9487 1925 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2775.9487 (pause 0.67) 2776.6210 1926 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2776.6210 you come over and- 2777.7915 1927 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2777.7915 (pause 0.20) 2777.9901 1928 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2777.9901 to the- 2778.3996 1929 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2778.3996 (pause 0.22) 2778.6227 1930 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2778.6227 meet him at the 2779.5782 1931 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2779.5782 (pause 1.04) 2780.6142 1932 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2780.6142 real estate office, and meet at such and such a time and we'll 2783.2689 1933 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2783.2689 (pause 0.93) 2784.2010 1934 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2784.2010 uh 2784.7969 1935 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2784.7969 (pause 0.13) 2784.9304 1936 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2784.9304 just make out the- both contracts all the same time. 2787.5005 1937 DTA_int_03 2787.5025 Mm-hm. 2787.7840 1938 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2788.2482 Alright. 2788.8105 1939 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2788.8105 (pause 0.23) 2789.0427 1940 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2789.0427 So, we going over and 2790.4638 1941 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2790.4638 (pause 1.07) 2791.5293 1942 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2791.5293 we may fill out that they'd sold our home, where we sold to them if they let out first and 2795.9809 1943 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2795.9809 (pause 1.99) 2797.9663 1944 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2797.9663 only like five hundred dollars have nothing make the down payment on the home that we buying. I says, hey, I told him, I said I told you not to sa- sell it. Then walked away 2805.6899 1945 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2805.6899 (pause 0.87) 2806.5568 1946 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2806.5568 cause we 2807.1191 1947 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2807.1191 (pause 0.37) 2807.4859 1948 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2807.4859 you haven't been got enough money /hear me/. 2808.9059 1949 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2808.9059 (pause 0.28) 2809.1901 1950 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2809.1901 He said, don't worry about that says, we can take care of that. Y- You just let us know, well. 2813.6601 1951 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2813.6601 (pause 0.84) 2814.4974 1952 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2814.4974 I thought then to 2815.9205 1953 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2815.9205 (pause 1.34) 2817.2560 1954 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2817.2560 back out of the deal. And see, I said to the wife, what do you think? She says, well, I don't know. 2822.0916 1955 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2822.0916 (pause 1.64) 2823.7358 1956 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2823.7358 He says don't worry about the- enough fi- money was his- we- you- we'll take care of that. Alright. We can fix that. Alright. Well, I let the deal go through. 2830.7524 1957 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2830.7524 (pause 1.39) 2832.1429 1958 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2832.1429 And, uh, 2832.8448 1959 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2832.8448 (pause 1.04) 2833.8838 1960 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2833.8838 so, then to- for me to make the deal, had to make a side note 2836.5843 1961 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2836.5843 (pause 0.98) 2837.5653 1962 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2837.5653 for five hundred dollars, I make my house loan and then pay on this five hundred dollars too. 2841.9181 1963 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2841.9181 (pause 1.84) 2843.7609 1964 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2843.7609 And uh, 2844.8366 1965 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2844.8366 (pause 0.45) 2845.2909 1966 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2845.2909 I went on and made if for a while, but my work, I was working in the factory and at that time, the factory was working 2850.5402 1967 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2850.5402 (pause 0.16) 2850.7021 1968 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2850.7021 not the same as they do now. [And] 2852.5959 1969 DTA_int_03 2852.3892 [Mm-hm.] 2852.6692 1970 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2853.2162 he was off three months and things, and I got behind on this statement, I told him 2857.6919 1971 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2857.6919 (pause 1.90) 2859.5927 1972 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2859.5927 that uh, what had happened. And I couldn't pay on thi- making 2862.6844 1973 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2862.6844 (pause 0.13) 2862.8097 1974 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2862.8097 my 2863.2060 1975 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2863.2060 (pause 0.37) 2863.5758 1976 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2863.5758 house payment, but this side load, I [couldn't] pay it, so. 2866.3496 1977 DTA_int_03 2865.3961 [Yeah.] 2865.6039 1978 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2866.7683 Then they 2867.2664 1979 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2867.2664 (pause 0.12) 2867.3826 1980 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2867.3826 turned it over and said, /???/ asked what I /was in the/ 2869.5116 1981 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2869.5116 (pause 0.35) 2869.8569 1982 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2869.8569 court 2870.2420 1983 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2870.2420 (pause 0.37) 2870.6118 1984 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2870.6118 all at court about it, see. 2871.9004 1985 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2871.9004 (pause 0.96) 2872.8600 1986 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2872.8600 Uh. 2873.2848 1987 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2873.2848 (pause 0.39) 2873.6790 1988 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2873.6790 In this uh, recorder's court. 2875.3282 1989 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2875.3282 (pause 2.81) 2878.1418 1990 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2878.1418 So, 2878.6063 1991 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2878.6063 (pause 1.17) 2879.7737 1992 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2879.7737 I went down to court. 2881.1846 1993 DTA_int_03 2881.7469 Mm-hm. 2881.9973 1994 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2881.9822 And my brother-in-law went with me to court 2883.9163 1995 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2884.0599 Well, as I 2884.8330 1996 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2884.8330 (pause 0.43) 2885.2662 1997 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2885.2662 said to you before, I 2886.6422 1998 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2886.6422 (pause 0.73) 2887.3695 1999 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2887.3695 always asked the good Lord to go in front with me and my- 2890.8646 2000 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2890.8646 (pause 0.46) 2891.3199 2001 DTA_se2_ag4_m_02 2891.3199 uh, whatever I've got to do. 2893.4871