Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_05 0.8063 Well let's talk about some of the games you play around here, or used to play when you were younger. 4.2152 2 DTA_int_05 4.2152 (pause 2.07) 6.2816 3 DTA_int_05 6.2816 Uh, 6.8124 4 DTA_int_05 6.8124 (pause 0.40) 7.2121 5 DTA_int_05 7.2121 what were some of the games you used to /kay/- play when you were a smaller girl? 9.5602 6 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 10.2924 Um, 10.7217 7 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 10.7217 (pause 0.51) 11.2281 8 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 11.2281 I used to play, 12.1473 9 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 12.1473 (pause 1.23) 13.3769 10 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 13.3769 oh, hide and go seek, and 14.9751 11 DTA_int_05 14.9751 Mm-hm. 15.2537 12 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 15.8247 Ring Around the Rosie, and 17.6439 13 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 17.6439 (pause 0.63) 18.2745 14 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 18.2745 all those 18.7606 15 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 18.7606 (pause 0.52) 19.2854 16 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 19.2854 little kids [games.] 20.5646 17 DTA_int_05 20.5218 [Mm-hm.] 20.8324 18 DTA_int_05 21.9497 Were there [different] kinds of hide and go seek? 23.3990 19 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 22.1840 [N-] 22.4782 20 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 24.7423 Well 25.1328 21 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 25.1328 (pause 1.74) 26.8697 22 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 26.8697 no. There was one person who was it, and then [all the] others 30.3700 23 DTA_int_05 29.5462 [Uh-huh.] 29.8527 24 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 30.5256 hid. And then you count, um, 32.1671 25 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 32.1671 (pause 0.56) 32.7232 26 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 32.7232 up to 33.3822 27 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 33.3822 (pause 0.23) 33.6172 28 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 33.6172 a hundred 34.3372 29 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 34.3372 (pause 0.13) 34.4623 30 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 34.4623 by fives, and then you try to look for them. 36.7636 31 DTA_int_05 37.6057 [Mm-hm.] 37.9613 32 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 37.8620 [And] sometimes 38.8849 33 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 39.1809 you- 39.3944 34 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 39.3944 (pause 0.16) 39.5592 35 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 39.5592 the person who was it, 40.7674 36 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 40.7674 (pause 0.31) 41.0756 37 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 41.0756 would try to find, 42.4280 38 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 42.4280 (pause 0.56) 42.9925 39 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 42.9925 uh, 43.4837 40 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 43.4837 (pause 0.26) 43.7461 41 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 43.7461 the pers- 44.3014 42 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 44.3014 (pause 0.17) 44.4692 43 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 44.4692 the people 45.0863 44 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 45.0863 (pause 0.26) 45.3426 45 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 45.3426 before they got to, um, 46.9230 46 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 46.9230 (pause 0.40) 47.3197 47 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 47.3197 ghoul, or else 48.4400 48 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 48.4400 (pause 0.73) 49.1725 49 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 49.1725 the 49.5264 50 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 49.5264 (pause 0.79) 50.3166 51 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 50.3166 other people would- 51.3243 52 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 51.3243 (pause 0.92) 52.2426 53 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 52.2426 or else the people [would go] to ghoul before the 54.4036 54 DTA_int_05 52.8529 [Mm-hm.] 53.1242 55 DTA_int_05 54.6080 [Uh-huh.] 54.9490 56 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 54.9162 [man] could- 55.3830 57 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 55.9017 I mean, the 56.3654 58 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 56.3654 (pause 1.11) 57.4738 59 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 57.4738 other person could get 'em. 58.7217 60 DTA_int_05 58.9627 Yeah, the person who was it could get them, [is that right?] 60.9033 61 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 60.5226 [Mm-hm.] 60.7880 62 DTA_int_05 62.5393 Yeah. 63.1107 63 DTA_int_05 63.1107 (pause 0.89) 63.9985 64 DTA_int_05 63.9985 Do they have games like, uh, may I around here? 66.5353 65 DTA_int_05 66.5353 (pause 0.30) 66.8399 66 DTA_int_05 66.8399 You ever heard of that? 67.4697 67 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 67.8284 No. 68.1427 68 DTA_int_05 68.4997 Capture the flag? 69.4951 69 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 69.7911 No. 70.0931 70 DTA_int_05 70.6911 You haven't? 71.1183 71 DTA_int_05 71.1183 (pause 1.17) 72.2907 72 DTA_int_05 72.2907 How about hopscotch? You used to play that? 73.6759 73 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 74.3075 Mm, not very much. We play 76.0992 74 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 76.0992 (pause 0.41) 76.5050 75 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 76.5050 a different game k- um, 78.0283 76 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 78.0283 (pause 0.31) 78.3395 77 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 78.3395 that you have to hop around a square 80.3776 78 DTA_int_05 80.6378 [Mm-hm.] 80.9585 79 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 80.7629 [and every] time you, um, 81.8490 80 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 82.0779 get around 82.8132 81 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 82.8132 (pause 0.40) 83.2098 82 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 83.2098 each of the sixteen squares, you put your name in any square you want. 86.9215 83 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 86.9215 (pause 0.31) 87.2297 84 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 87.2297 [And then] the other person can't step in that square, but you can. 90.4456 85 DTA_int_05 87.2297 [Mm-hm.] 87.5344 86 DTA_int_05 90.5714 Yeah. 90.9632 87 DTA_int_05 90.9632 (pause 1.23) 92.1915 88 DTA_int_05 92.1915 Isn't there something you have to pick up as you go by, or is that a different kind? 95.0481 89 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 95.2495 95.3715 90 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 95.3715 (pause 0.19) 95.5631 91 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 95.5631 No, this is a different kind. 96.9436 92 DTA_int_05 97.0352 That's a different [kind, huh?] 97.8663 93 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 97.6344 [Mm-hm.] 97.9261 94 DTA_int_05 98.4661 There are several different kinds of hopscotch, right? 100.2769 95 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 100.3403 Mm-hm. 100.6118 96 DTA_int_05 101.6622 Uh-huh. 102.0482 97 DTA_int_05 102.0482 (pause 2.52) 104.5698 98 DTA_int_05 104.5698 How about, uh, 105.4860 99 DTA_int_05 105.4860 (pause 0.75) 106.2335 100 DTA_int_05 106.2335 you used to jump rope, I suppose? 107.5119 101 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 107.8666 Uh-huh. I still do. 108.9467 102 DTA_int_05 109.7491 Exercise? 110.3258 103 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 110.4173 Mm-hm. 110.6800 104 DTA_int_05 111.2724 Uh, 111.6015 105 DTA_int_05 111.6015 (pause 0.28) 111.8857 106 DTA_int_05 111.8857 do you remember any of those rhymes that used to go with jump rope? 114.3334 107 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 115.1114 Yes. 115.8066 108 DTA_int_05 115.9322 How'd they go? 116.4517 109 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 116.8178 Um, 117.2419 110 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 117.2419 (pause 0.88) 118.1267 111 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 118.1267 teddy bear, teddy bear 119.6317 112 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 119.6317 (pause 0.11) 119.7384 113 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 119.7384 turn around. Teddy bear, teddy bear touch the ground. 122.8666 114 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 122.8666 (pause 0.42) 123.2907 115 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 123.2907 Teddy bear, teddy bear, 124.7535 116 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 124.7535 (pause 0.84) 125.5950 117 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 125.5950 um, go up the stairs. Teddy bear, teddy bear say your prayers. 129.3548 118 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 129.3548 (pause 0.75) 130.1023 119 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 130.1023 Teddy bear, teddy- 131.0573 120 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 131.0573 (pause 0.27) 131.3288 121 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 131.3288 teddy bear, um, 132.2998 122 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 132.2998 (pause 1.58) 133.8803 123 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 133.8803 read the news. 134.9642 124 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 134.9642 (pause 0.23) 135.1961 125 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 135.1961 Hm, something like that, I forgot it. 136.8345 126 DTA_int_05 137.0664 Yeah, well [that's] alright. [It sounds] great. 138.5836 127 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 137.5859 [Uh.] 137.7354 128 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 137.7354 (pause 0.24) 137.9795 129 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 137.9795 [] 138.1919 130 DTA_int_05 139.3952 Uh-huh. 139.8334 131 DTA_int_05 139.8334 (pause 1.29) 141.1229 132 DTA_int_05 141.1229 Um, 141.7850 133 DTA_int_05 141.7850 (pause 0.87) 142.6545 134 DTA_int_05 142.6545 let's see. Do you watch television much, or no? 144.5629 135 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 145.4775 Um, not as much as I used to. But I still watch a lot of television. 148.6606 136 DTA_int_05 149.5454 You used to watch more? 150.3731 137 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 150.8948 I used to watch a lot of television, but now I don't 153.4402 138 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 153.4402 (pause 0.34) 153.7851 139 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 153.7851 watch as much as I used to. 155.7079 140 DTA_int_05 155.8239 You do more studying and things like this, do you? 157.6045 141 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 158.2739 Mm, not really studying, but, 160.3830 142 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 160.3830 (pause 0.97) 161.3532 143 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 161.3532 um. 161.6583 144 DTA_int_05 162.9619 Do you read much? 163.6150 145 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 163.9749 Yeah, I read a lot. 164.7354 146 DTA_int_05 165.2693 What do you like to read? 166.0095 147 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 166.6454 Mysteries. 167.4112 148 DTA_int_05 167.7842 What kind of mysteries? 168.5882 149 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 169.2548 Um, 169.6698 150 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 169.6698 (pause 0.59) 170.2617 151 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 170.2617 right now, upstairs I have a book I'm reading, um, 172.9718 152 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 172.9718 (pause 0.34) 173.3105 153 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 173.3105 Sherlock Holmes, the Hound of the [Baskervilles.] 176.5035 154 DTA_int_05 176.4394 [Uh-huh.] 176.7842 155 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 177.3120 And 177.7880 156 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 177.7880 (pause 0.27) 178.0534 157 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 178.0534 I liked to read Nancy Drew books. 180.2013 158 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 180.2013 (pause 0.50) 180.7056 159 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 180.7056 [And,] um, 181.7041 160 DTA_int_05 180.7514 [Mm-hm.] 181.0077 161 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 182.9734 uh. 183.6110 162 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 183.6110 (pause 2.43) 186.0405 163 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 186.0405 Hm, 186.3090 164 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 186.3090 (pause 0.16) 186.4707 165 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 186.4707 any kind of mysteries interest me. 188.2006 166 DTA_int_05 188.8696 What's the Sher- what's this Sherlock Holmes book about? 191.1278 167 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 191.9001 Um, 192.3120 168 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 192.3120 (pause 1.07) 193.3830 169 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 193.3830 I'm only reading one story out of it, because all the rest are kind of 196.9995 170 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 196.9995 (pause 0.52) 197.5218 171 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 197.5218 above my head, but 198.6171 172 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 198.6171 (pause 0.49) 199.1114 173 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 199.1114 that one my teacher recommend 200.7415 174 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 200.7415 (pause 0.17) 200.9093 175 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 200.9093 to us that 201.5134 176 DTA_int_05 201.6110 Mm-hm. 201.8955 177 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 201.9650 if we really like mysteries, we could read it. It's about this, 204.9314 178 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 204.9314 (pause 0.57) 205.5019 179 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 205.5019 um, 205.8345 180 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 205.8345 (pause 0.33) 206.1640 181 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 206.1640 hound who's been 207.5964 182 DTA_int_05 207.8887 [Mm-hm.] 208.2138 183 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 208.0138 [following] this, um, 209.2342 184 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 210.5531 man all around. 211.7890 185 DTA_int_05 211.7979 Uh-huh. 212.1709 186 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 212.7537 And then 213.2785 187 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 213.2785 (pause 0.74) 214.0199 188 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 214.0199 he kills these people. And 216.1656 189 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 216.1656 (pause 0.81) 216.9741 190 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 216.9741 it's- 217.3097 191 DTA_int_05 217.8894 Sort of gory, huh? 218.6286 192 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 218.8086 yeah. 219.2266 193 DTA_int_05 221.0877 How about- how about the Nancy Drew books? Uh, 223.0595 194 DTA_int_05 223.0595 (pause 1.20) 224.2617 195 DTA_int_05 224.2617 [I suppose] every girl goes through those, don't they? 226.1024 196 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 224.4638 [Um,] 224.7105 197 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 226.1206 mm-hm. 226.4440 198 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 226.4440 (pause 1.64) 228.0832 199 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 228.0832 I have th- three of my own. 230.0389 200 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 230.0389 (pause 0.50) 230.5362 201 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 230.5362 And me and my girlfriend trade them all the time, all kinds of books. 234.4981 202 DTA_int_05 235.2914 Yeah. 235.6514 203 DTA_int_05 235.6514 (pause 0.67) 236.3196 204 DTA_int_05 236.3196 A lot of fun, isn't it? 237.0252 205 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 237.0771 Mm-hm. 237.3486 206 DTA_int_05 238.0159 It's also very good for you, I think, if you read a lot. 240.0435 207 DTA_int_05 240.0435 (pause 1.61) 241.6515 208 DTA_int_05 241.6515 Tell me, uh, 242.4203 209 DTA_int_05 242.4203 (pause 1.00) 243.4157 210 DTA_int_05 243.4157 going back to television, what are your favorite programs? 245.7354 211 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 247.6057 Well 247.9596 212 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 247.9596 (pause 0.68) 248.6369 213 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 248.6369 I like, um, 249.4676 214 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 249.4676 (pause 0.40) 249.8704 215 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 249.8704 I Dream of Jeannie, 251.1968 216 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 251.1968 (pause 0.53) 251.7232 217 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 251.7232 and 252.3944 218 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 252.3944 (pause 1.49) 253.8864 219 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 253.8864 sometimes I watch Man from Uncle if I can stay up that late. 257.0450 220 DTA_int_05 257.3257 Yeah. 257.6103 221 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 257.6722 And sometimes I watch, um, 259.1419 222 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 259.1419 (pause 0.97) 260.1091 223 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 260.1091 you know, like the Monday night movie once in a while. Or the Wednesday night movie, Sunday night movie 265.5629 224 DTA_int_05 265.8589 [Uh-huh.] 266.2029 225 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 266.0084 [once] in a while. 266.8330 226 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 267.4402 And, 267.8520 227 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 267.8520 (pause 1.74) 269.5912 228 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 269.5912 uh, 269.9642 229 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 269.9642 (pause 3.59) 273.5500 230 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 273.5500 oh. 273.8643 231 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 273.8643 (pause 0.42) 274.2822 232 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 274.2822 I watch all kinds of shows. 275.8665 233 DTA_int_05 276.5683 Yeah. 276.8795 234 DTA_int_05 276.8795 (pause 1.19) 278.0664 235 DTA_int_05 278.0664 Did you, uh- did you watch that episode of I Dream of Jeannie when she was gonna marry, uh, what's the // name? Uh, 283.3039 236 DTA_int_05 283.3039 (pause 0.98) 284.2830 237 DTA_int_05 284.2830 you didn't see that one? 285.0594 238 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 285.5378 I don't think so. 286.3921 239 DTA_int_05 287.7292 What was the last one you saw? 288.9468 240 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 289.7979 Um, 290.2115 241 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 290.2115 (pause 1.49) 291.7025 242 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 291.7025 when the man 292.6220 243 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 292.6220 (pause 0.11) 292.7285 244 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 292.7285 stole the 294.0466 245 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 294.0466 (pause 0.55) 294.5988 246 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 294.5988 bottle from- 295.5416 247 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 295.5416 (pause 0.62) 296.1610 248 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 296.1610 from Captain Nelson. 297.5530 249 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 297.5530 (pause 0.37) 297.9192 250 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 297.9192 And he g- he, um, 299.3105 251 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 299.3105 (pause 0.45) 299.7598 252 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 299.7598 told /Junnie/- 300.4738 253 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 300.4738 (pause 0.14) 300.6110 254 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 300.6110 Jeannie to make all these, 301.8467 255 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 301.8467 (pause 0.44) 302.2891 256 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 302.2891 um, pretty girl servants. 304.1053 257 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 304.1053 (pause 0.36) 304.4684 258 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 304.4684 And 304.7857 259 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 304.7857 (pause 0.26) 305.0481 260 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 305.0481 he had this big swimming pool, and this limousine, and a big, fabulous house. 309.0374 261 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 309.0374 (pause 0.42) 309.4585 262 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 309.4585 And then 309.8490 263 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 309.8490 (pause 0.29) 310.1419 264 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 310.1419 his, um, 310.7124 265 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 310.7124 (pause 0.77) 311.4844 266 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 311.4844 boss or somebody came by 313.5172 267 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 313.5172 (pause 0.40) 313.9169 268 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 313.9169 at- 314.1060 269 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 314.1060 (pause 0.27) 314.3723 270 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 314.3723 came by his house 315.4676 271 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 315.4676 (pause 0.34) 315.8061 272 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 315.8061 and he went to tell the, um, 317.4386 273 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 317.4386 (pause 0.24) 317.6743 274 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 317.6743 somebody, and everyone was getting mad at him. 319.7124 275 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 319.7124 (pause 0.36) 320.0725 276 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 320.0725 And they were wondering where he got all this stuff from, so 322.5812 277 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 322.5812 (pause 0.56) 323.1426 278 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 323.1426 they were, 323.5157 279 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 323.5157 (pause 0.17) 323.6865 280 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 323.6865 um, 323.9611 281 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 323.9611 (pause 0.25) 324.2144 282 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 324.2144 about to get him and 325.3738 283 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 325.3738 (pause 0.69) 326.0664 284 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 326.0664 Captain Nelson said, if you give me the bottle back I'll have everything disappear. 329.9154 285 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 329.9154 (pause 0.46) 330.3761 286 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 330.3761 So he had, um, everything disappear 332.7811 287 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 332.7811 (pause 0.38) 333.1655 288 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 333.1655 and 333.4462 289 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 333.4462 (pause 0.23) 333.6781 290 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 333.6781 the- everything that the man remembered 335.9306 291 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 335.9306 (pause 0.31) 336.2388 292 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 336.2388 about the house, and the cars, and everything, they forgot. 339.1979 293 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 339.1979 (pause 0.48) 339.6781 294 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 339.6781 And, [um,] 340.4256 295 DTA_int_05 339.9893 [Uh-huh.] 340.3658 296 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 340.8558 the man had on a 342.0374 297 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 342.0374 (pause 0.32) 342.3547 298 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 342.3547 suit that he 343.4622 299 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 343.4622 (pause 0.22) 343.6850 300 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 343.6850 told Jeannie to give him, and that disappeared too. 346.0770 301 DTA_int_05 347.1152 So he's left just standing in his shorts, was he? Or something? 349.5866 302 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 349.6301 Yeah. 350.0572 303 DTA_int_05 351.4188 That's really quite funny, isn't it? 352.4317 304 DTA_int_05 352.4317 (pause 0.55) 352.9809 305 DTA_int_05 352.9809 I get a bang out of it, myself. 354.2662 306 DTA_int_05 354.2662 (pause 0.63) 354.9008 307 DTA_int_05 354.9008 Tell me, do you have a pet around here? 356.2746 308 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 357.6232 No. my brother has some fish upstairs. 360.2571 309 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 360.2571 (pause 0.85) 361.1083 310 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 361.1083 And- 361.4714 311 DTA_int_05 362.6865 That's about the limit, huh? 363.5891 312 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 363.7452 Mm-hm. 364.0626 313 DTA_int_05 364.7460 Uh-huh. 365.0377 314 DTA_int_05 365.0377 (pause 2.06) 367.0992 315 DTA_int_05 367.0992 When- when you were younger, was there any way you could get a wish? 369.7951 316 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 373.3860 I don't think so. 374.2799 317 DTA_int_05 375.1533 You- you never went through this bit about the bone in the chicken, you know the- 378.1960 318 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 378.5120 Oh, I never believed that. 379.7643 319 DTA_int_05 380.3776 You never did? [] You never did this as a sort of ritual in your [house?] 384.1442 320 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 381.1320 [Mm-mm.] 381.3974 321 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 381.3974 (pause 2.66) 384.0587 322 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 384.0587 [No.] 384.3722 323 DTA_int_05 384.3722 We used to do it all the time. But you know about it, [don't you?] 386.3097 324 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 386.1640 [Mm-hm.] 386.4203 325 DTA_int_05 386.5065 Yeah. 386.7851 326 DTA_int_05 386.7851 (pause 1.44) 388.2212 327 DTA_int_05 388.2212 It's funny how y- e- anywhere you go you find these, at least in English-speaking [cultures, you] do. 392.7162 328 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 392.0206 [Mm-hm.] 392.2677 329 DTA_int_05 393.3059 How about this business about the teeth coming out? 395.1069 330 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 396.3608 Oh- oh, that still goes on. 398.5304 331 DTA_int_05 398.9062 [Yeah.] 399.2852 332 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 399.1228 [Uh,] 399.4645 333 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 400.8162 um. 401.2494 334 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 401.2494 (pause 0.45) 401.7018 335 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 401.7018 We get a dime for each tooth that comes out. (laughing) 404.7231 336 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 404.7231 (pause 0.52) 405.2449 337 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 405.2449 My little brother and my little sister get- still get dimes. 408.3302 338 DTA_int_05 408.7056 Yeah, and w- what's supposed to make it work? 410.4543 339 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 411.0862 Mm, you take- i- as soon as you get your teeth out, you know, 413.8543 340 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 413.8543 (pause 0.33) 414.1872 341 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 414.1872 s- f- my father puts 'em in a little envelope 416.6560 342 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 416.6560 (pause 0.18) 416.8360 343 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 416.8360 [and p-] his office, and then 418.0625 344 DTA_int_05 416.8879 [Yeah.] 417.1228 345 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 418.5324 they put 'em under their pillow. [And then] when they wake up in the morning, sometimes it's not there. I say, 423.0770 346 DTA_int_05 420.1369 [Yeah.] 420.3997 347 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 423.5072 hey mom you forgot something. 425.2006 348 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 425.2006 (pause 0.42) 425.6247 349 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 425.6247 And then I say, hey /RD-NAME-2/ look again, you know. I say, here it is, and I pull it out. 430.1144 350 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 430.1144 (pause 0.70) 430.8192 351 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 430.8192 [So.] 431.3326 352 DTA_int_05 430.9077 [Mm-hm.] 431.2006 353 DTA_int_05 432.3181 Actually who's supposed to bring the stuff? 434.0175 354 DTA_int_05 434.0175 (pause 0.38) 434.3959 355 DTA_int_05 434.3959 [] 434.6897 356 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 434.5919 [] The Fairy Godmother or somebody [like that.] 437.1701 357 DTA_int_05 436.6758 [Mm-hm.] 437.3074 358 DTA_int_05 438.4188 You ever wished upon a star? 439.6422 359 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 440.5698 Mm-mm. 440.9794 360 DTA_int_05 441.1899 You don't do that? 441.8067 361 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 442.0534 No. 442.3341 362 DTA_int_05 442.7155 You know, you're s- quite- 443.6072 363 DTA_int_05 443.6072 (pause 0.27) 443.8726 364 DTA_int_05 443.8726 quite a few people in Detroit do that. 445.3219 365 DTA_int_05 445.3219 (pause 0.52) 445.8375 366 DTA_int_05 445.8375 Star bright, star light, first star I- did you ever heard of that? 448.8345 367 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 448.9412 Mm-hm. 449.2128 368 DTA_int_05 450.2845 You have [heard of it?] 450.9252 369 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 450.6262 [Mm-hm.] 450.9039 370 DTA_int_05 451.5171 Yeah. 451.8234 371 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 452.4599 We learned this little song in kindergarten that was something like that. 455.5309 372 DTA_int_05 455.9184 Oh yeah? 456.2998 373 DTA_int_05 456.2998 (pause 1.97) 458.2708 374 DTA_int_05 458.2708 Tell me, you're in school now aren't you? 459.5805 375 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 459.6171 Mm-hm. 459.8886 376 DTA_int_05 460.0778 What is the school you go to? 460.9790 377 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 461.2921 /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 461.7994 378 DTA_int_05 462.1167 Uh-huh. 462.4706 379 DTA_int_05 462.4706 (pause 0.38) 462.8459 380 DTA_int_05 462.8459 And what grade are you in? 463.6819 381 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 464.2036 I'm going to be in eighth grade in- 465.7971 382 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 465.7971 (pause 0.41) 466.2029 383 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 466.2029 in September. 466.9748 384 DTA_int_05 467.2311 Uh-huh. Eighth grade. 468.1075 385 DTA_int_05 468.1075 (pause 1.91) 470.0206 386 DTA_int_05 470.0206 And I suppose you're /unintelligible/- 471.3974 387 DTA_int_05 471.3974 (pause 0.31) 471.7117 388 DTA_int_05 471.7117 if you don't want to, you don't have to hold [that.] You can just let it plop down here and it'll be fine. 475.2883 389 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 473.1159 [Hm.] 473.2593 390 DTA_int_05 475.5019 Yeah, gets sort of tiring after the first half hour. 478.1907 391 DTA_int_05 478.1907 (pause 2.18) 480.3699 392 DTA_int_05 480.3699 What is your favorite subject in school? 481.8680 393 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 482.5026 Oh, 482.9519 394 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 482.9519 (pause 0.32) 483.2723 395 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 483.2723 science. 483.9137 396 DTA_int_05 484.2700 [Science?] Uh, any particular branch of science? 486.9527 397 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 484.7124 [Mm-hm.] 484.9199 398 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 487.8894 Oh, 488.2219 399 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 488.2219 (pause 1.66) 489.8795 400 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 489.8795 well I don't like the earth too much. 492.1505 401 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 492.1505 (pause 0.29) 492.4432 402 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 492.4432 I don't like the earth, but 493.4287 403 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 493.4287 (pause 0.54) 493.9656 404 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 493.9656 the stars, and nature, and 496.5904 405 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 496.5904 (pause 0.72) 497.3143 406 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 497.3143 stuff like that 498.1258 407 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 498.1258 (pause 0.36) 498.4828 408 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 498.4828 I like. 498.7849 409 DTA_int_05 499.1846 [Uh-huh.] 499.4225 410 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 499.3981 [Everything] except for the earth 500.7597 411 DTA_int_05 500.9946 [Astronomy.] 501.6303 412 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 501.0526 [and the rocks.] 501.9074 413 DTA_int_05 501.9405 Yeah. 502.2554 414 DTA_int_05 502.2554 (pause 1.37) 503.6247 415 DTA_int_05 503.6247 Do you- have you studied bugs yet or anything like that? 505.9107 416 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 506.1426 No. 506.5209 417 DTA_int_05 509.9855 You really like science though. It's [general science] I suppose right now, you're studying all kinds of science, [right?] 514.1172 418 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 511.3859 [Mm-hm.] 511.6331 419 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 511.6331 (pause 2.28) 513.9130 420 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 513.9130 [Mm-hm.] 514.2059 421 DTA_int_05 515.0358 Um, 515.4015 422 DTA_int_05 515.4015 (pause 0.65) 516.0526 423 DTA_int_05 516.0526 I suppose this helps you out somewhat, this microscope you have here? 518.5911 424 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 518.8756 Yeah. 519.1470 425 DTA_int_05 521.4447 What are some of the things you have? 522.5621 426 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 523.5476 Uh, that one's assorted sea life [and] 526.3554 427 DTA_int_05 526.2273 [Mm-hm.] 526.6300 428 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 526.7368 it has- um, 527.4915 429 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 527.4915 (pause 7.00) 534.4889 430 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 534.4889 it has all kinds of names I can't even [read.] 537.1579 431 DTA_int_05 536.8573 [ Yeah.] 538.1113 432 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 538.1601 Right. 538.4243 433 DTA_int_05 538.8405 539.2158 434 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 540.0435 I look at 'em [anyway.] 541.2100 435 DTA_int_05 540.8215 [Doesn't it] have the- it doesn't have their popular names on 'em, huh? No it [doesn't.] They're all the scientific names. Isn't that something? 547.0067 436 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 544.8116 [No.] 545.0780 437 DTA_int_05 547.5354 Well egg of a sea urchin, I think I can read that one. 549.5621 438 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 549.7482 Hm. 549.9100 439 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 549.9100 (pause 0.99) 550.9046 440 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 550.9046 And then these 551.8451 441 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 551.8451 (pause 0.35) 552.1960 442 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 552.1960 are 552.5559 443 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 552.5559 (pause 0.78) 553.3371 444 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 553.3371 an- /nonima/- 554.5026 445 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 554.5026 (pause 0.18) 554.6834 446 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 554.6834 uh, [tissues.] 555.7788 447 DTA_int_05 555.6903 [Anatomical, uh-huh.] 556.8710 448 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 556.3402 [An-] 556.6666 449 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 557.5392 Then there's 558.2174 450 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 558.2174 (pause 0.41) 558.6262 451 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 558.6262 stomach of a frog, and 560.2023 452 DTA_int_05 561.1045 Oh, [yeah.] 561.9069 453 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 561.4584 [tissue.] 561.9467 454 DTA_int_05 563.5621 Blood, /corpus/, heart of the frog, 565.0819 455 DTA_int_05 565.0819 (pause 0.17) 565.2486 456 DTA_int_05 565.2486 /unintelligible/. 566.6124 457 DTA_int_05 566.6124 (pause 0.41) 567.0221 458 DTA_int_05 567.0221 Say that must be really something. That's education in itself, isn't it? 569.3778 459 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 570.4767 [And this, um,] 571.6239 460 DTA_int_05 570.5591 [And what's this one here?] 571.3432 461 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 572.6521 assorted 573.3791 462 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 573.3791 (pause 0.20) 573.5835 463 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 573.5835 animals. Not really animals, but 575.9458 464 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 575.9458 (pause 0.87) 576.8184 465 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 576.8184 it's some cat fur, 578.1373 466 DTA_int_05 578.3417 [Mm-hm.] 578.6174 467 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 578.4912 [and-] 578.8360 468 DTA_int_05 580.0405 [Assortments.] 581.1639 469 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 580.3776 [/um/, mm-hm.] 581.0297 470 DTA_int_05 582.2723 Canary, isn't it? 583.0533 471 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 584.4202 Mm-hm. Canary 585.4645 472 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 585.4645 (pause 0.26) 585.7264 473 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 585.7264 ligaments, 586.3524 474 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 586.3524 (pause 0.88) 587.2280 475 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 587.2280 [And a goldfinch /?/.] 588.3443 476 DTA_int_05 587.2280 [And how about these ones? This is a] different set all together, [huh?] 589.5053 477 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 589.3951 [Mm-hm.] 589.6490 478 DTA_int_05 591.6933 What is it- [what are these] about? 592.8166 479 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 592.1357 [This-] 592.4469 480 DTA_int_05 593.1761 Um, 593.3605 481 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 593.4853 [this is] pond life. 594.6551 482 DTA_int_05 593.5431 [pond.] 593.7610 483 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 595.9870 This has, um, 596.8155 484 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 596.8155 (pause 0.39) 597.2021 485 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 597.2021 freshwater planktons, 598.8985 486 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 598.8985 (pause 0.46) 599.3561 487 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 599.3561 spirogyra, and 601.3081 488 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 601.3081 (pause 0.40) 601.7093 489 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 601.7093 water flea, and a goldfish scale, and 604.2486 490 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 604.2486 (pause 0.31) 604.5629 491 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 604.5629 mosquito larvae. 605.5878 492 DTA_int_05 605.7292 Ah. 606.2690 493 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 607.1052 And that's antennas of common insects. 609.7787 494 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 609.7787 (pause 1.40) 611.1822 495 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 611.1822 And- 611.5301 496 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 611.5301 (pause 0.17) 611.6979 497 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 611.6979 of a moth, a honeybee, a cockroach, a butterfly, a beetle, and an ant. 615.8978 498 DTA_int_05 616.0747 Mm-hm. 616.4810 499 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 616.8863 And then this is sections of common vegetables. 619.9992 500 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 619.9992 (pause 0.41) 620.4111 501 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 620.4111 And this has, um, 621.3363 502 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 621.3363 (pause 0.46) 621.8001 503 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 621.8001 vein of a parsley leaf, 623.2261 504 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 623.2261 (pause 0.31) 623.5370 505 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 623.5370 vein of a celery leaf, 624.8001 506 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 624.8001 (pause 0.61) 625.4103 507 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 625.4103 uh, root of red turnip, 627.2940 508 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 627.2940 (pause 0.25) 627.5408 509 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 627.5408 leaf of red turnip, 628.7368 510 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 628.7368 (pause 0.31) 629.0419 511 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 629.0419 horseradish, 630.0373 512 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 630.0373 (pause 0.23) 630.2692 513 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 630.2692 and a ca- 630.8276 514 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 630.8276 (pause 0.14) 630.9710 515 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 630.9710 and cauliflower. 632.0114 516 DTA_int_05 633.7269 Tell me, uh, 634.4896 517 DTA_int_05 634.4896 (pause 0.94) 635.4294 518 DTA_int_05 635.4294 have you learned how to prepare your own slides yet? 637.2304 519 DTA_int_05 637.2304 (pause 0.35) 637.5781 520 DTA_int_05 637.5781 Are you doing that? 638.2838 521 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 638.6468 Uh, 638.9977 522 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 638.9977 (pause 0.67) 639.6658 523 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 639.6658 well 640.1113 524 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 640.1113 (pause 0.65) 640.7642 525 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 640.7642 yeah I- I just got through, just now, I took some of my hair 644.2646 526 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 644.2646 (pause 0.50) 644.7627 527 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 644.7627 [and I took] some of my mother's hair, and I put it 646.9381 528 DTA_int_05 644.7658 [Oh yeah.] 645.2128 529 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 647.3409 in a slide. And I used a drop of water to hold it together. 650.2432 530 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 650.2432 (pause 0.44) 650.6864 531 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 650.6864 And I took it apart 651.5652 532 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 651.5652 (pause 0.44) 652.0015 533 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 652.0015 after I got through looking at it. 653.4690 534 DTA_int_05 654.0038 If you wanted to, uh, for instance, study the cell structure of a piece of a potato, how would you do this? Do you know? 658.5995 535 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 659.8756 Mm, 660.2021 536 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 660.2021 (pause 1.21) 661.4103 537 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 661.4103 no but it's in my 662.5453 538 DTA_int_05 662.8787 [It's in your hand,] huh? You're gonna [get to] that some other day, huh? 665.3805 539 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 663.0404 [book here.] 663.5400 540 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 663.5400 (pause 0.46) 663.9984 541 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 663.9984 [I did-] 664.2408 542 DTA_int_05 667.0076 D- don't you have to have some sort of a slicer or something so you can get a very thin section of, uh, say a- 672.1594 543 DTA_int_05 672.1594 (pause 0.35) 672.5127 544 DTA_int_05 672.5127 a potato or a leaf or something like that? 674.4141 545 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 675.1899 Yeah, I guess so. 676.0289 546 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 676.0289 (pause 0.22) 676.2516 547 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 676.2516 It's- I don't have one with- 677.6660 548 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 677.6660 (pause 0.62) 678.2845 549 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 678.2845 with [this set.] 678.9252 550 DTA_int_05 678.5157 [Need-] you have various kinds of stain, though don't you? Don't you use stain? 681.6628 551 DTA_int_05 682.7856 You haven't [got that] in [this set.] 683.9854 552 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 683.1120 [No.] 683.3409 553 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 683.3409 (pause 0.28) 683.6193 554 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 683.6193 [Mm-mm.] 683.9270 555 DTA_int_05 684.2387 That'll come later, huh? 685.0506 556 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 685.1113 Mm-hm. 685.4088 557 DTA_int_05 685.5354 686.0266 558 DTA_int_05 686.0266 (pause 0.91) 686.9336 559 DTA_int_05 686.9336 Well it should be great. 687.6933 560 DTA_int_05 687.6933 (pause 0.80) 688.4927 561 DTA_int_05 688.4927 Tell me, uh- uh, how- what- what are some of the items of the furniture in your classroom? 692.2280 562 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 693.1929 Well 693.5224 563 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 693.5224 (pause 0.18) 693.6994 564 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 693.6994 there's the teacher's desk and 695.6033 565 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 695.6033 (pause 0.45) 696.0495 566 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 696.0495 there's our desk and chairs. 697.8619 567 DTA_int_05 698.3958 [Mm-hm.] 698.7516 568 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 698.5392 [And] 698.9671 569 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 700.0625 there's, um, 700.9229 570 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 700.9229 (pause 0.61) 701.5369 571 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 701.5369 a blackboard, 702.7177 572 DTA_int_05 703.3584 [Mm-hm.] 703.6605 573 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 703.5812 [and] the chocolates, and. 705.0068 574 DTA_int_05 705.8825 What color is the blackboard in your classroom? 707.5819 575 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 707.8878 Black. 708.1716 576 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 708.1716 (pause 0.26) 708.4309 577 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 708.4309 And one- 708.9953 578 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 708.9953 (pause 0.48) 709.4774 579 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 709.4774 and the other side is green. 710.7078 580 DTA_int_05 710.9976 Oh yeah? (laughing) 711.4889 581 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 711.6414 Mm. 711.7909 582 DTA_int_05 712.2150 It always seems kind- kind of odd talking about a 714.2478 583 DTA_int_05 714.2478 (pause 0.45) 714.6994 584 DTA_int_05 714.6994 black 714.9862 585 DTA_int_05 714.9862 (pause 0.25) 715.2344 586 DTA_int_05 715.2344 greenboard- I mean a green blackboard. [] 716.9824 587 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 716.3935 [] 716.8542 588 DTA_int_05 719.3439 Uh, and when you walk outside of your classroom, uh, 721.9564 589 DTA_int_05 721.9564 (pause 0.72) 722.6773 590 DTA_int_05 722.6773 w- what is the place that you're in? 724.6919 591 DTA_int_05 724.6919 (pause 0.59) 725.2811 592 DTA_int_05 725.2811 What room is this? 726.1246 593 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 726.9862 Oh, 727.2913 594 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 727.2913 (pause 0.37) 727.6574 595 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 727.6574 what room is my classroom? 728.9397 596 DTA_int_05 728.9397 No, when you step outside of your classroom you're in the? 731.1578 597 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 731.7322 In the hall. 732.2326 598 DTA_int_05 732.3882 Uh-huh. 732.6959 599 DTA_int_05 732.6959 (pause 0.53) 733.2272 600 DTA_int_05 733.2272 And, uh, what- what sort of furnitures are in the hall? 735.7329 601 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 737.2005 Uh, there's a 737.8542 602 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 737.8542 (pause 0.13) 737.9885 603 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 737.9885 drinking fountain outside the boys' bathroom. 740.6864 604 DTA_int_05 740.8115 Uh-huh. 741.1441 605 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 741.1563 And there's a chair for b- 742.3035 606 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 742.3035 (pause 0.17) 742.4774 607 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 742.4774 there's, uh, 743.1189 608 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 743.1189 (pause 0.44) 743.5636 609 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 743.5636 four chairs for bad people. [And] 745.6269 610 DTA_int_05 745.3127 [Oh yeah?] No kidding? 746.2835 611 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 746.5217 That's all. 747.1319 612 DTA_int_05 747.5834 747.6902 613 DTA_int_05 747.6902 (pause 0.55) 748.2364 614 DTA_int_05 748.2364 How about, uh, do you have some- something in the hall to put your- your stuff in? 751.6439 615 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 752.8542 Oh, no we don't have lockers. We have, um- 754.8222 616 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 754.8222 (pause 0.64) 755.4660 617 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 755.4660 um, 755.8302 618 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 755.8302 (pause 0.93) 756.7635 619 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 756.7635 cloak rooms [in the classroom.] 758.5666 620 DTA_int_05 757.7703 [Oh yeah.] 758.1874 621 DTA_int_05 758.7505 [Uh-huh.] 759.1075 622 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 758.9885 [With our] own hooks. 759.7787 623 DTA_int_05 759.7818 Different design than a lot of schools. 761.1761 624 DTA_int_05 761.1761 (pause 1.29) 762.4644 625 DTA_int_05 762.4644 Uh, 763.0716 626 DTA_int_05 763.0716 (pause 0.34) 763.4103 627 DTA_int_05 763.4103 sometimes in the elementary schools you have playgrounds and you have various kinds of equipment in the playgrounds. What are some of the kinds of equipment you find in the playground? 770.5301 628 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 770.8542 Well there's a kindergarten playground and they have little bicycles, and tricycles, and tractors, and wagons. 777.0770 629 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 777.0770 (pause 0.45) 777.5268 630 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 777.5268 And they have a slide- 778.6330 631 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 778.6330 (pause 0.32) 778.9503 632 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 778.9503 they have two slides, 780.1349 633 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 780.1349 (pause 0.60) 780.7390 634 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 780.7390 and, um, 781.4377 635 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 781.4377 (pause 0.62) 782.0571 636 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 782.0571 and some swings, and teeter totter, and a merry-go-round, and a monkey bar. 785.6895 637 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 785.6895 (pause 0.52) 786.2082 638 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 786.2082 And then- uh, that's just for the kindergarteners, [but we] have, um, 789.5682 639 DTA_int_05 788.5064 [Uh-huh.] 788.8112 640 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 790.0014 parking lot between the 791.5361 641 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 791.5361 (pause 0.44) 791.9793 642 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 791.9793 church and the school. 793.1906 643 DTA_int_05 793.3401 Uh-huh. 793.6347 644 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 793.6696 And that's what- that's the 795.3302 645 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 795.3302 (pause 0.78) 796.1113 646 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 796.1113 boys' playground for the 798.0617 647 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 798.0617 (pause 0.70) 798.7604 648 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 798.7604 s- 799.1143 649 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 799.1143 (pause 0.15) 799.2638 650 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 799.2638 for the 799.9076 651 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 799.9076 (pause 0.45) 800.3531 652 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 800.3531 I think third, fourth, fifth, sixth- 802.3848 653 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 802.3848 (pause 0.76) 803.1456 654 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 803.1456 third, fourth, fifth- 803.9763 655 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 803.9763 (pause 0.90) 804.8763 656 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 804.8763 wait a minute. 805.1728 657 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 805.1728 (pause 0.59) 805.7611 658 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 805.7611 Second, third, fourth, and fifth. 807.4431 659 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 807.4431 (pause 0.59) 808.0289 660 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 808.0289 And they play on that k- playground. And the girls play behind the rectory. 811.5694 661 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 811.5694 (pause 0.47) 812.0388 662 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 812.0388 And the boys, 812.8054 663 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 812.8054 (pause 0.49) 813.2936 664 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 813.2936 um, all the rest of the boys play 815.4232 665 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 815.4232 (pause 0.65) 816.0739 666 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 816.0739 on, uh, 816.6231 667 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 816.6231 (pause 1.66) 818.2829 668 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 818.2829 in, um, play- parking behind the 820.8222 669 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 820.8222 (pause 0.44) 821.2615 670 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 821.2615 kindergarten. 822.0321 671 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 822.0321 (pause 0.54) 822.5743 672 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 822.5743 And we have v- f- um, 824.0022 673 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 824.0022 (pause 0.80) 824.8054 674 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 824.8054 824.9000 675 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 824.9000 (pause 0.29) 825.1868 676 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 825.1868 we have volleyballs, and basketballs, and nets 828.3363 677 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 828.3363 (pause 0.54) 828.8794 678 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 828.8794 to play, um, volleyball over. 830.7169 679 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 830.7169 (pause 0.24) 830.9549 680 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 830.9549 Or tennis, or- I forgot what it's called. We have baseball bats, and 834.9618 681 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 834.9618 (pause 0.33) 835.2943 682 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 835.2943 footballs, and mitts, and 837.5255 683 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 837.5255 (pause 0.24) 837.7695 684 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 837.7695 all kinds- jump [ropes, and.] 839.2737 685 DTA_int_05 838.8435 [Yeah.] 839.1686 686 DTA_int_05 840.3607 Uh-huh. 840.6669 687 DTA_int_05 840.6669 (pause 0.29) 840.9587 688 DTA_int_05 840.9587 Tell me, i- in the kindergarten do they have this kind of thing that goes up and down like this? With a person sitting on either end? 845.9626 689 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 846.8123 Yes, a teeter totter. 847.8588 690 DTA_int_05 847.9289 Uh-huh. 848.2402 691 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 848.2402 They have two of 'em. 848.9335 692 DTA_int_05 849.4278 Uh-huh. 849.7360 693 DTA_int_05 849.7360 (pause 1.01) 850.7459 694 DTA_int_05 850.7459 Uh, what- what are monkey bars in your definition? Uh, various people have different sort of things that they refer to as monkey bars. 856.8008 695 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 857.1395 Well 857.5125 696 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 857.5125 (pause 1.50) 859.0106 697 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 859.0106 it's a- 859.5628 698 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 859.5628 (pause 1.55) 861.1136 699 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 861.1136 a whole bunch of 862.1143 700 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 862.1143 (pause 0.40) 862.5170 701 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 862.5170 pipe bars. 863.5735 702 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 863.5735 (pause 0.49) 864.0617 703 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 864.0617 Whole bunch of pipe bars 865.4225 704 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 865.4225 (pause 0.41) 865.8344 705 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 865.8344 and- 866.4232 706 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 866.4232 (pause 1.63) 868.0563 707 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 868.0563 or like, little 869.0815 708 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 869.0815 (pause 0.29) 869.3744 709 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 869.3744 pipe squares 870.4527 710 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 870.4527 (pause 0.26) 870.7085 711 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 870.7085 [next] to each other and on top of each other. 872.8481 712 DTA_int_05 870.7268 [Uh-huh.] 871.0330 713 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 873.3271 There's about 873.8702 714 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 873.8702 (pause 0.16) 874.0258 715 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 874.0258 four 874.5689 716 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 874.5689 (pause 0.32) 874.8862 717 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 874.8862 layers of 'em. 875.7657 718 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 875.7657 (pause 0.27) 876.0342 719 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 876.0342 Except on the top one, there's only one. 877.9350 720 DTA_int_05 878.4210 [Mm-hm.] 878.6650 721 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 878.4576 [You-] sometimes you hang from the top and you jump. 881.0876 722 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 881.6215 Or you could just climb up and climb down and chase someone inside and out. 886.2607 723 DTA_int_05 886.8252 [Uh-huh.] 887.0906 724 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 887.0113 [And] 887.2580 725 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 888.0952 some people 888.8946 726 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 888.8946 (pause 0.38) 889.2792 727 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 889.2792 fall and get hurt, 890.5430 728 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 890.5430 (pause 0.16) 890.7016 729 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 890.7016 and 890.8817 730 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 890.8817 (pause 1.39) 892.2730 731 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 892.2730 [doesn't really hurt 'em.] 893.4074 732 DTA_int_05 892.4408 [S-] 892.6628 733 DTA_int_05 892.6628 (pause 0.29) 892.9533 734 DTA_int_05 892.9533 [/inaudible/ it seems to me that would be sort of a hazard then? 895.4180 735 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 895.5842 Yeah. 895.7886 736 DTA_int_05 897.7878 Uh, what do kids do when they get out of school in the afternoon? 900.6627 737 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 902.1730 Oh, 902.5819 738 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 902.5819 (pause 0.15) 902.7322 739 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 902.7322 well, 902.9854 740 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 902.9854 (pause 1.30) 904.2882 741 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 904.2882 we- 904.6087 742 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 904.6087 (pause 2.02) 906.6261 743 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 906.6261 we just 907.1631 744 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 907.1631 (pause 0.17) 907.3315 745 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 907.3315 run away. We 908.1445 746 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 908.1445 (pause 0.55) 908.6925 747 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 908.6925 run over the grass and some- 910.3248 748 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 910.3248 (pause 0.98) 911.3012 749 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 911.3012 oh, sometimes these kids, they run over the grass 914.5452 750 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 914.5452 (pause 0.46) 915.0098 751 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 915.0098 and 915.3912 752 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 915.3912 (pause 0.55) 915.9373 753 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 915.9373 they 916.1710 754 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 916.1710 (pause 0.13) 916.3035 755 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 916.3035 k- 916.4224 756 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 916.4224 (pause 0.45) 916.8740 757 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 916.8740 try to run away from the teachers, so. 918.7390 758 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 918.7390 (pause 0.65) 919.3919 759 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 919.3919 And then if the teacher calls 'em for running over the grass, they keep running. They don't- 923.6071 760 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 923.6071 (pause 0.62) 924.2234 761 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 924.2234 pretend like that don't hear 'em. 925.3614 762 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 925.3614 (pause 0.44) 925.8008 763 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 925.8008 But 926.0357 764 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 926.0357 (pause 0.65) 926.6833 765 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 926.6833 we wait for each other on the corners and then walk home with each other. 930.5590 766 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 930.5590 (pause 0.63) 931.1875 767 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 931.1875 And then 931.7184 768 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 931.7184 (pause 1.24) 932.9549 769 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 932.9549 we s- 933.4156 770 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 933.4156 (pause 0.43) 933.8427 771 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 933.8427 um, me and my girlfriends stop in back of the market basket, where the 937.2607 772 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 937.2607 (pause 0.39) 937.6513 773 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 937.6513 bakery is, and we yell out, free samples. And sometimes they bring us doughnuts or something like that. 942.7970 774 DTA_int_05 943.0990 Oh yeah? 943.5170 775 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 943.5384 And 943.8740 776 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 943.8740 (pause 1.52) 945.3904 777 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 945.3904 that's about all. 945.9861 778 DTA_int_05 946.9716 Tell me, did you ever have a teacher who hollered at the class a lot? 949.5322 779 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 952.5140 Yeah. 953.1364 780 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 953.1364 (pause 0.72) 953.8603 781 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 953.8603 Um, 954.3119 782 DTA_int_05 954.6505 [/What's the/-] 955.0044 783 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 954.7207 [Ms.] /RD-NAME-2/. 955.5201 784 DTA_int_05 955.6665 uh-huh. 955.9916 785 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 956.4995 And 956.9793 786 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 956.9793 (pause 0.57) 957.5529 787 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 957.5529 she was- 958.0929 788 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 958.0929 (pause 0.45) 958.5425 789 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 958.5425 if one person 959.6947 790 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 959.6947 (pause 0.24) 959.9366 791 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 959.9366 did something, 960.8275 792 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 960.8275 (pause 0.57) 961.4011 793 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 961.4011 she'd always yell at everybody else. She'd say, 964.1143 794 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 964.1143 (pause 0.44) 964.5567 795 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 964.5567 um, 964.8954 796 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 964.8954 (pause 0.41) 965.3073 797 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 965.3073 now you know you shouldn't do that, and all this stuff. 969.3576 798 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 969.3576 (pause 0.67) 970.0227 799 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 970.0227 And we just sat there, just like this. 972.3099 800 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 972.3099 (pause 0.18) 972.4858 801 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 972.4858 Hm. 972.6536 802 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 972.6536 (pause 0.52) 973.1722 803 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 973.1722 Didn't- just went in one ear and went out the other. 975.8153 804 DTA_int_05 976.2241 In one ear and out the other, huh? 977.4388 805 DTA_int_05 977.4388 (pause 1.14) 978.5803 806 DTA_int_05 978.5803 Did she ever holler at you? 979.6116 807 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 981.8885 Mm, yeah I was chewing gum once. 983.8969 808 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 983.8969 (pause 0.28) 984.1745 809 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 984.1745 [/unintelligible/.] 984.9770 810 DTA_int_05 984.3118 [/You got it/ for chewing gum, huh? (laughing) 985.9677 811 DTA_int_05 987.6871 What did she do? Did she make you go out- stand outside or anything like that? 990.0098 812 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 990.0311 Mm-mm. She made put it in a piece of 992.1120 813 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 992.1120 (pause 0.57) 992.6864 814 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 992.6864 paper and throw it in the basket. And then I had to write some, um, 995.8420 815 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 995.8420 (pause 0.89) 996.7362 816 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 996.7362 I will not chew gum, about 998.1821 817 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 998.1821 (pause 0.96) 999.1440 818 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 999.1440 mm, I think it was twenty-five times. Something like that. I didn't chew gum 1002.7237 819 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1002.7237 (pause 0.35) 1003.0716 820 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1003.0716 after that. 1003.6726 821 DTA_int_05 1004.2035 And I suppose this broke your heart, did it? It really- 1006.1936 822 DTA_int_05 1006.1936 (pause 0.45) 1006.6482 823 DTA_int_05 1006.6482 did it [hit you hard?] 1007.5480 824 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1006.9930 [Mm-hm.] 1007.2706 825 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1007.7230 Yeah. 1008.1501 826 DTA_int_05 1009.3950 Yeah. How- w- how old were you then? 1011.3817 827 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1012.0471 Mm, I think I was 1013.3133 828 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1013.3133 (pause 1.02) 1014.3362 829 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1014.3362 eight. 1014.7146 830 DTA_int_05 1015.4163 Yeah. 1015.7429 831 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1015.8221 Mm-hm. 1016.0479 832 DTA_int_05 1017.1623 Yeah. 1017.4308 833 DTA_int_05 1017.4308 (pause 1.31) 1018.7397 834 DTA_int_05 1018.7397 W- it- it hurts a lot more when you're that age. [When you get] older it doesn't hurt so much. 1022.3227 835 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1021.0441 [Mm-hm.] 1021.3039 836 DTA_int_05 1023.0647 Tell me, uh, did you have one teacher that you could 1025.1211 837 DTA_int_05 1025.1211 (pause 0.14) 1025.2584 838 DTA_int_05 1025.2584 point to as the best teacher you [ever had?] 1027.2263 839 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1026.8549 [Mm-hm.] 1027.1089 840 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1027.7428 Sister /RD-NAME-2/ in fourth grade. 1029.7390 841 DTA_int_05 1030.0655 [Uh-huh.] 1030.2729 842 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1030.1082 [During] math she'd give us a break, about fifteen minutes. 1033.5841 843 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1033.9136 We'd play this game called here kitty kitty. 1036.2607 844 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1036.2607 (pause 0.38) 1036.6452 845 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1036.6452 It was just one person, 1038.2325 846 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1038.2325 (pause 0.32) 1038.5529 847 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1038.5529 she used to- 1039.2973 848 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1039.2973 (pause 0.85) 1040.1516 849 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1040.1516 she was the, um, 1041.3149 850 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1041.3149 (pause 0.31) 1041.6200 851 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1041.6200 um. 1042.2272 852 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1042.2272 (pause 0.36) 1042.5902 853 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1042.5902 Mother cat, 1043.3072 854 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1043.3072 (pause 0.33) 1043.6337 855 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1043.6337 and all the- 1044.1318 856 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1044.1318 (pause 0.13) 1044.2600 857 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1044.2600 and then she'd pick six other little kittens. 1046.9396 858 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1046.9396 (pause 0.53) 1047.4674 859 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1047.4674 And then everyone would put their heads down 1049.3225 860 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1049.3225 (pause 0.13) 1049.4476 861 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1049.4476 except for these four little kittens. 1051.0349 862 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1051.0349 (pause 0.32) 1051.3553 863 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1051.3553 We had a huge classroom, 1053.1227 864 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1053.1227 (pause 0.36) 1053.4796 865 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1053.4796 and a big closet, and it looked out over the, um, 1056.2600 866 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1056.2600 (pause 0.28) 1056.5407 867 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1056.5407 gym. 1057.0036 868 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1057.0036 (pause 0.55) 1057.5536 869 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1057.5536 So everyone would hide inside people's coats and in the- 1060.6238 870 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1060.6238 (pause 0.43) 1061.0509 871 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1061.0509 and in the l-, um- 1062.1623 872 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1062.1623 (pause 0.63) 1062.7878 873 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1062.7878 in the supply room, and under desk. 1065.0416 874 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1065.0416 (pause 0.35) 1065.3942 875 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1065.3942 And then she'd go, here kitty kitty kitty. 1067.2859 876 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1067.2859 (pause 0.31) 1067.5940 877 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1067.5940 And all the little ones would go, 1068.6751 878 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1068.6751 (pause 0.12) 1068.7930 879 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1068.7930 meow, 1069.6301 880 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1069.6301 (pause 0.09) 1069.7177 881 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1069.7177 and then she'd try and find them there. 1071.5254 882 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1071.5254 (pause 0.73) 1072.2516 883 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1072.2516 And- 1072.5506 884 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1072.5506 (pause 0.65) 1073.1974 885 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1073.1974 and she used to always bring treats for us and everything. 1077.0647 886 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1077.0647 (pause 0.65) 1077.7100 887 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1077.7100 She was always telling jokes and 1079.8206 888 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1079.8206 (pause 0.24) 1080.0586 889 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1080.0586 she was a real nice teacher. 1081.3778 890 DTA_int_05 1082.0906 Did you learn much from her? 1083.0616 891 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1083.2020 Hm? 1083.4095 892 DTA_int_05 1083.5620 Did you [learn much from] her? You did, huh? 1085.1882 893 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1083.9525 [Mm-hm.] 1084.4068 894 DTA_int_05 1086.2661 Well it seems a highly unorthodox method. I suppose she was the only teacher that ever did that f- for you, huh? 1090.9808 895 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1091.1760 Yeah. 1091.5979 896 DTA_int_05 1092.4827 Yeah. 1092.7908 897 DTA_int_05 1092.7908 (pause 2.30) 1095.0860 898 DTA_int_05 1095.0860 Did you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand? 1097.0539 899 DTA_int_05 1097.0539 (pause 0.91) 1097.9640 900 DTA_int_05 1097.9640 /A lot of 'em?/ 1098.3606 901 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1098.3606 [Mm-hm.] 1098.7451 902 DTA_int_05 1098.7176 [When was that?] 1099.2393 903 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1099.5445 Uh, 1099.8068 904 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1099.8068 (pause 1.22) 1101.0281 905 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1101.0281 this year. 1101.5986 906 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1101.5986 (pause 0.41) 1102.0075 907 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1102.0075 [Sister] /RD-NAME-2/ is always. 1104.1226 908 DTA_int_05 1102.0410 [Uh-huh.] 1102.4590 909 DTA_int_05 1104.4430 What was she teaching? 1105.4010 910 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1105.8831 Um, 1106.2676 911 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1106.2676 (pause 0.26) 1106.5302 912 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1106.5302 English and reading. 1107.8213 913 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1107.8213 (pause 0.90) 1108.7245 914 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1108.7245 [We always] had to 1109.5887 915 DTA_int_05 1108.7245 [So that's-] 1109.1181 916 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1110.0372 write- um, 1110.7481 917 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1110.7481 (pause 1.23) 1111.9764 918 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1111.9764 it wasn't the English and reading, it wasn't the way she taught, it was 1115.1943 919 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1115.1943 (pause 0.36) 1115.5544 920 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1115.5544 she's always giving us lectures about being good. If someone in another classroom, another schedule, or another grade 1121.7931 921 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1121.7931 (pause 0.39) 1122.1837 922 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1122.1837 did something wrong, she'd give us a half hour 1124.4578 923 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1124.4578 (pause 0.41) 1124.8664 924 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1124.8664 lecture on- 1125.8122 925 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1125.8122 (pause 0.55) 1126.3644 926 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1126.3644 on, um, 1127.0418 927 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1127.0418 (pause 0.85) 1127.8938 928 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1127.8938 1127.9762 929 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1127.9762 (pause 0.36) 1128.3393 930 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1128.3393 oh, not throwing the ball on top of the church, or something like that. 1132.2668 931 DTA_int_05 1132.5628 [Mm-hm.] 1132.9350 932 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1132.8282 [And] 1133.1083 933 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1133.3957 then she'd lead on to something else, and then on to something else, and then finally we'd get back to our reading. 1139.0967 934 DTA_int_05 1139.5551 Mm-hm. 1139.9571 935 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1140.0016 That- 1140.1766 936 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1140.1766 (pause 1.89) 1142.0639 937 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1142.0639 And everyone couldn't stand her too [much.] 1144.5532 938 DTA_int_05 1144.2607 [No.] 1144.6206 939 DTA_int_05 1145.0570 Yeah. 1145.4271 940 DTA_int_05 1145.4271 (pause 0.47) 1145.8994 941 DTA_int_05 1145.8994 S- /??/ this very irritating, isn't it? 1147.5688 942 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1147.7702 Yeah. 1147.9868 943 DTA_int_05 1149.4522 Uh, listen, uh, who's the smartest kid in your class? 1151.7718 944 DTA_int_05 1151.7718 (pause 1.57) 1153.3400 945 DTA_int_05 1153.3400 You are? 1153.7783 946 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1154.1974 No, uh-uh. 1155.3698 947 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1155.3698 (pause 0.24) 1155.6108 948 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1155.6108 Um, 1156.0227 949 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1156.0227 (pause 3.62) 1159.6451 950 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1159.6451 um. 1160.1255 951 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1160.1255 (pause 3.79) 1163.9121 952 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1163.9121 Um, 1164.4033 953 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1164.4033 (pause 0.25) 1164.6535 954 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1164.6535 I guess /RD-NAME-6/. 1166.4476 955 DTA_int_05 1167.5071 Uh-huh. 1167.8579 956 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1168.8984 And, um, 1169.5086 957 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1169.5086 (pause 2.21) 1171.7214 958 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1171.7214 oh, 1172.0418 959 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1172.0418 (pause 0.71) 1172.7565 960 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1172.7565 she's real smart. She's- 1174.1570 961 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1174.1570 (pause 1.92) 1176.0738 962 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1176.0738 she's not in the- 1177.5231 963 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1177.5231 (pause 0.93) 1178.4567 964 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1178.4567 she's in my group, A-two, and [she's not in] A-one. 1181.6985 965 DTA_int_05 1180.5109 [Uh-huh.] 1180.8770 966 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1182.4979 But 1182.7328 967 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1182.7328 (pause 0.56) 1183.2973 968 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1183.2973 there's only two other people in A-one, 1185.6108 969 DTA_int_05 1185.8732 [Mm-hm.] 1186.1203 970 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1185.9708 [and] they don't- 1186.5292 971 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1186.7092 and they're so snotty and everything. [So I] think she's the- 1189.9929 972 DTA_int_05 1188.7176 [Mm-hm.] 1189.0383 973 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1190.7779 she seems 1191.6016 974 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1191.6016 (pause 0.13) 1191.7298 975 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1191.7298 to m- 1191.9464 976 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1191.9464 (pause 0.28) 1192.2302 977 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1192.2302 me 1192.6848 978 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1192.6848 (pause 0.16) 1192.8495 979 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1192.8495 to be the smartest one in our class. 1194.6779 980 DTA_int_05 1195.5353 W- what is her national origin? Her name is /RD-NAME-3/, did you say? 1198.5785 981 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1198.7458 Mm-hm. 1199.0295 982 DTA_int_05 1199.3743 That- that's [not, uh.] 1200.4279 983 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1200.0555 [I think it's] f- she- 1201.3217 984 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1201.7092 she was born in 1202.6398 985 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1202.6398 (pause 0.45) 1203.0891 986 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1203.0891 Iraq or something like [that.] 1204.6941 987 DTA_int_05 1204.4407 [/Oh, yeah/.] 1205.0778 988 DTA_int_05 1207.3542 Yeah, and what- 1208.1248 989 DTA_int_05 1208.1248 (pause 0.35) 1208.4774 990 DTA_int_05 1208.4774 oh, I suppose that she- she just speaks English, though I [suppose, hm?] 1211.4739 991 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1210.9613 [Mm-hm.] 1211.2240 992 DTA_int_05 1212.3351 Uh-huh. 1212.7066 993 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1213.5311 S- 1213.6898 994 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1213.6898 (pause 1.07) 1214.7607 995 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1214.7607 she- I think she was born in Detroit 1216.9187 996 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1216.9187 (pause 0.43) 1217.3458 997 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1217.3458 and then she went to Iraq and lived for about eight years, or something like [that.] 1221.3504 998 DTA_int_05 1221.2558 [Mm-hm.] 1221.5779 999 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1222.1070 And I think her father was, 1223.6448 1000 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1223.6448 (pause 0.70) 1224.3473 1001 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1224.3473 um, 1224.7226 1002 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1224.7226 (pause 1.46) 1226.1810 1003 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1226.1810 um. 1226.5776 1004 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1226.5776 (pause 2.37) 1228.9491 1005 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1228.9491 Um, 1229.3274 1006 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1229.3274 (pause 0.72) 1230.0483 1007 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1230.0483 I think her father 1231.1589 1008 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1231.1589 (pause 0.34) 1231.5006 1009 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1231.5006 was born in Iraq, or something like that. 1233.6951 1010 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1233.6951 (pause 0.60) 1234.2992 1011 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1234.2992 I know they had something to do with Iraq. 1236.6341 1012 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1236.6341 (pause 0.63) 1237.2687 1013 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1237.2687 Then they came, um, back to Detroit. 1239.1978 1014 DTA_int_05 1240.8179 Does she study all the time, this girl? 1242.3168 1015 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1242.6829 Mm-hm. 1242.9615 1016 DTA_int_05 1245.1978 She doesn't play around much, huh? 1246.2823 1017 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1246.6989 No. 1247.0283 1018 DTA_int_05 1248.7287 Do you, uh- do- do girls your age, uh, n- have a lot of sports, or not so many sports for you? 1254.2924 1019 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1254.5273 Mm, 1254.9117 1020 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1254.9117 (pause 0.95) 1255.8667 1021 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1255.8667 yeah we have 1256.4403 1022 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1256.4403 (pause 0.10) 1256.5410 1023 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1256.5410 basketball, and, 1257.7409 1024 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1257.7409 (pause 0.48) 1258.2199 1025 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1258.2199 um, kickball, and volleyball. 1260.1703 1026 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1260.1703 (pause 1.71) 1261.8851 1027 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1261.8851 We have those teams. 1263.4085 1028 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1263.4085 (pause 0.84) 1264.2474 1029 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1264.2474 And- 1264.5799 1030 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1264.5799 (pause 1.03) 1265.6112 1031 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1265.6112 not really teams, but once in a while we have a 1267.9766 1032 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1267.9766 (pause 0.53) 1268.5044 1033 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1268.5044 basketball game 1269.6493 1034 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1269.6493 (pause 0.29) 1269.9392 1035 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1269.9392 or a volleyball game. 1271.0956 1036 DTA_int_05 1271.3183 Yeah. 1271.6142 1037 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1272.0452 Mm. 1272.1734 1038 DTA_int_05 1274.0894 Do- do, uh, smart kids like, uh, /RD-NAME-3/ was it? 1277.9384 1039 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1278.1307 Mm-hm. 1278.3686 1040 DTA_int_05 1279.4975 Do th- do they play sports much or no? 1281.3736 1041 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1282.0643 Mm-hm. 1282.3969 1042 DTA_int_05 1282.6714 What she- she's a sporting type, [/?/ I] mean, hm? 1284.9514 1043 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1284.1612 [Mm-hm.] 1284.4180 1044 DTA_int_05 1285.6104 Tell me, do they- is there any special rewards for her? 1288.4823 1045 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1289.6539 Um, 1290.0818 1046 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1290.0818 (pause 2.20) 1292.2817 1047 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1292.2817 well 1292.5929 1048 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1292.5929 (pause 0.15) 1292.7393 1049 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1292.7393 between classrooms, no. 1294.4750 1050 DTA_int_05 1294.9674 Really? 1295.2373 1051 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1295.2695 And we might- 1295.9018 1052 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1295.9018 (pause 0.41) 1296.3107 1053 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1296.3107 well, between classrooms we might- uh, 1298.7589 1054 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1298.7589 (pause 1.74) 1300.4975 1055 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1300.4975 oh, 1300.8728 1056 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1300.8728 (pause 1.86) 1302.7287 1057 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1302.7287 have 1303.1772 1058 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1303.1772 (pause 1.31) 1304.4891 1059 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1304.4891 during our study period we can go outside, or something like that. 1307.6478 1060 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1307.6478 (pause 0.75) 1308.3930 1061 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1308.3930 Or- 1308.7439 1062 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1308.7439 (pause 1.20) 1309.9399 1063 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1309.9399 but if it's between schools 1311.7625 1064 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1311.7625 (pause 0.71) 1312.4762 1065 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1312.4762 then s- um, sometimes we get awards. 1314.5578 1066 DTA_int_05 1315.9735 Mm-hm. 1316.4480 1067 DTA_int_05 1316.4480 (pause 0.96) 1317.4113 1068 DTA_int_05 1317.4113 How about, 1317.7988 1069 DTA_int_05 1317.7988 (pause 0.14) 1317.9392 1070 DTA_int_05 1317.9392 uh, is there any special treatment for the kids that don't do so good in school? Do they 1321.8209 1071 DTA_int_05 1321.8209 (pause 0.51) 1322.3274 1072 DTA_int_05 1322.3274 get extra attention or something like that? 1323.7226 1073 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1323.8843 Yeah, they- they- sometimes the teachers 1326.0727 1074 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1326.0727 (pause 0.45) 1326.5242 1075 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1326.5242 really try to help them and they 1328.1535 1076 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1328.1535 (pause 0.24) 1328.3945 1077 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1328.3945 ask them to stay after school for about an hour. 1330.9674 1078 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1330.9674 (pause 0.33) 1331.2939 1079 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1331.2939 For a special, um, 1332.5059 1080 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1332.5059 (pause 0.65) 1333.1558 1081 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1333.1558 class, 1333.9399 1082 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1333.9399 (pause 0.13) 1334.0681 1083 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1334.0681 you know, 1334.4281 1084 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1334.4281 (pause 0.19) 1334.6142 1085 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1334.6142 no, 1334.8957 1086 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1334.8957 (pause 0.28) 1335.1806 1087 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1335.1806 um, 1335.4998 1088 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1335.4998 (pause 1.18) 1336.6836 1089 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1336.6836 no charge or anything. Just to- 1338.4339 1090 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1338.4339 (pause 0.37) 1338.8019 1091 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1338.8019 just to help them. 1339.8032 1092 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1339.8032 (pause 0.51) 1340.3152 1093 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1340.3152 They don't wanna stay, so they don't stay. 1342.2626 1094 DTA_int_05 1342.5677 [/Yeah that's something/.] 1343.1108 1095 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1342.7752 [And then] 1343.2628 1096 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1343.4220 the people who- 1344.3900 1097 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1344.3900 (pause 0.49) 1344.8751 1098 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1344.8751 and it really shows on their report card cause they get, 1347.5669 1099 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1347.5669 (pause 0.38) 1347.9514 1100 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1347.9514 um, bad marks and 1349.4769 1101 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1349.4769 (pause 0.52) 1349.9933 1102 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1349.9933 they 1350.3259 1103 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1350.3259 (pause 0.35) 1350.6768 1104 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1350.6768 get green slips. And, 1352.4189 1105 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1352.4189 (pause 1.72) 1354.1436 1106 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1354.1436 [um.] 1354.4060 1107 DTA_int_05 1354.2504 [What do you] think, uh, for- for some of these children who don't do so well, w- what is their problem? Do you have any, uh, theory about this? 1359.9636 1108 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1360.5555 Well 1360.8575 1109 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1360.8575 (pause 1.22) 1362.0757 1110 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1362.0757 some of them, 1362.8751 1111 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1362.8751 (pause 0.58) 1363.4579 1112 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1363.4579 a few, not very many, b- 1365.3717 1113 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1365.3717 (pause 0.38) 1365.7510 1114 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1365.7510 a few are shy. 1367.0394 1115 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1367.0394 (pause 1.02) 1368.0605 1116 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1368.0605 They're really shy. 1369.0826 1117 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1369.0826 (pause 0.41) 1369.4914 1118 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1369.4914 And, um, 1370.2450 1119 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1370.2450 (pause 0.40) 1370.6447 1120 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1370.6447 they try to be like everyone else 1372.5768 1121 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1372.5768 (pause 0.49) 1373.0650 1122 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1373.0650 but they can't. 1373.9903 1123 DTA_int_05 1374.4266 Mm-hm. 1374.6920 1124 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1374.9087 And- 1375.3145 1125 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1375.3145 (pause 1.38) 1376.6935 1126 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1376.6935 and some people just don't- 1378.6440 1127 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1378.6440 (pause 2.05) 1380.6951 1128 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1380.6951 just don't like 'em 1381.9369 1129 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1381.9369 (pause 0.28) 1382.2206 1130 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1382.2206 cause they're not their kind, or 1384.0978 1131 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1384.0978 (pause 0.99) 1385.0864 1132 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1385.0864 they're- 1385.4085 1133 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1385.4085 (pause 1.18) 1386.5913 1134 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1386.5913 oh, I don't know. 1387.3053 1135 DTA_int_05 1388.8064 Well there was [either-] 1389.6678 1136 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1389.3076 [Square.] 1390.1009 1137 DTA_int_05 1390.1009 you think these are personality problems, are they, huh? 1392.0696 1138 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1392.5700 Mm-hm. 1392.8934 1139 DTA_int_05 1392.9544 Partly, [huh?] 1393.6133 1140 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1393.5585 [Some.] 1393.8880 1141 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1394.8286 And others are just- 1396.1894 1142 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1396.1894 (pause 0.76) 1396.9521 1143 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1396.9521 just 1397.3274 1144 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1397.3274 (pause 0.25) 1397.5806 1145 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1397.5806 deliberately. They try to act so, 1399.6836 1146 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1399.6836 (pause 0.43) 1400.1138 1147 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1400.1138 um, 1400.5044 1148 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1400.5044 (pause 0.22) 1400.7240 1149 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1400.7240 so big, like oh I don't have to stay after school. 1403.3671 1150 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1403.3671 (pause 0.27) 1403.6356 1151 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1403.6356 Everybody else is getting a- 1405.0643 1152 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1405.0643 (pause 0.83) 1405.8972 1153 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1405.8972 getting a D or a U- 1407.2252 1154 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1407.2252 (pause 0.11) 1407.3351 1155 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1407.3351 well, s- one D or U, 1409.0388 1156 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1409.0388 (pause 0.25) 1409.2878 1157 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1409.2878 uh, isn't gonna matter very much. 1411.2199 1158 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1411.2199 (pause 0.13) 1411.3450 1159 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1411.3450 Something like that. 1412.1852 1160 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1412.1852 (pause 0.37) 1412.5593 1161 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1412.5593 That's the attitude of some kids. 1414.6440 1162 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1414.6440 (pause 0.11) 1414.7568 1163 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1414.7568 But not very many. 1415.7901 1164 DTA_int_05 1415.9781 So their attitude is bad also, huh? [You could] say, huh? 1418.0991 1165 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1417.4304 [Mm-hm.] 1417.6623 1166 DTA_int_05 1418.6386 Now, 1418.9781 1167 DTA_int_05 1418.9781 (pause 1.29) 1420.2687 1168 DTA_int_05 1420.2687 tell me, uh, what time do you go to school in the morning here? 1422.4876 1169 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1422.9636 At, um, 1423.5982 1170 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1423.5982 (pause 0.14) 1423.7416 1171 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1423.7416 eight fifteen. 1424.5325 1172 DTA_int_05 1424.8194 Mm-hm. 1425.1459 1173 DTA_int_05 1425.1459 (pause 1.11) 1426.2565 1174 DTA_int_05 1426.2565 Uh, and you could also say eight fifteen is? W- how else could you describe this time? 1430.4430 1175 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1433.1565 Hm? 1433.3854 1176 DTA_int_05 1433.8896 Like eight thirty is half past eight, eight [fifteen is?] 1436.1626 1177 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1435.7416 [Oh.] 1436.0173 1178 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1436.1962 Um, 1436.5227 1179 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1436.5227 (pause 0.77) 1437.2893 1180 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1437.2893 quarter after eight. 1438.1179 1181 DTA_int_05 1438.2809 Mm-hm. And how about fifteen minutes, 1440.3350 1182 DTA_int_05 1440.3350 (pause 0.82) 1441.1527 1183 DTA_int_05 1441.1527 uh, before the hour of nine, for instance, you could say this [is?] 1444.2717 1184 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1444.2107 [Mm-hm.] 1444.4029 1185 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1445.1504 It's a quarter to 1446.5639 1186 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1446.5639 (pause 0.49) 1447.0581 1187 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1447.0581 ten. 1447.4304 1188 DTA_int_05 1448.1199 Yeah. 1448.4203 1189 DTA_int_05 1448.4203 (pause 0.14) 1448.5601 1190 DTA_int_05 1448.5601 Okay. 1448.9476 1191 DTA_int_05 1448.9476 (pause 0.69) 1449.6340 1192 DTA_int_05 1449.6340 Uh, 1449.9758 1193 DTA_int_05 1449.9758 (pause 0.14) 1450.1131 1194 DTA_int_05 1450.1131 the reason we're interested, of course, is that there are different ways of saying this. 1453.0063 1195 DTA_int_05 1453.0063 (pause 0.46) 1453.4639 1196 DTA_int_05 1453.4639 In New York, for instance, you'll get quarter of nine rather than a quarter to nine. It's very [interesting.] 1457.3807 1197 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1456.8941 [Hm.] 1457.0406 1198 DTA_int_05 1458.1733 This is part of the things that we're studying. Course this is something, in said the study of English. 1461.5974 1199 DTA_int_05 1461.5974 (pause 2.07) 1463.6661 1200 DTA_int_05 1463.6661 You already said it's, uh, your worst, uh, 1465.3694 1201 DTA_int_05 1465.3694 (pause 0.31) 1465.6745 1202 DTA_int_05 1465.6745 teacher was an English teacher. 1466.9231 1203 DTA_int_05 1466.9231 (pause 1.09) 1468.0162 1204 DTA_int_05 1468.0162 Which is unfortunate, isn't it? 1469.2267 1205 DTA_int_05 1469.2267 (pause 0.38) 1469.6111 1206 DTA_int_05 1469.6111 But I think you're right. I think a lot of, uh, the worst teachers around are English teachers. Unfortunately. (laughing) 1474.4182 1207 DTA_int_05 1474.4182 (pause 1.13) 1475.5532 1208 DTA_int_05 1475.5532 You- you actually like English, just- so you [said, though] you like reading, for [instance.] So you- so you probably like, uh, some aspects about it. 1481.8051 1209 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1477.7202 [Mm-hm.] 1478.0497 1210 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1478.0497 (pause 0.93) 1478.9781 1211 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1478.9781 [Mm-hm.] 1479.2741 1212 DTA_int_05 1482.9178 Tell me, is there a bunch of kids that you hang around with all the time? 1485.5943 1213 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1486.3175 Mm-hm. 1486.6684 1214 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1486.6684 (pause 0.87) 1487.5379 1215 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1487.5379 There's, 1487.9353 1216 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1487.9353 (pause 0.82) 1488.7591 1217 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1488.7591 uh, 1489.2351 1218 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1489.2351 (pause 1.14) 1490.3731 1219 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1490.3731 in school or at home? 1491.5403 1220 DTA_int_05 1491.5708 Well, both. 1492.2554 1221 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1493.3365 Well in school 1494.3503 1222 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1494.3503 (pause 0.85) 1495.2046 1223 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1495.2046 I hang around with /RD-NAME-2/ 1496.9109 1224 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1496.9109 (pause 0.53) 1497.4449 1225 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1497.4449 /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-5/ [and-] 1499.9201 1226 DTA_int_05 1499.7828 [Uh-huh.] 1500.1489 1227 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1500.8415 and 1501.1314 1228 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1501.1314 (pause 1.67) 1502.7972 1229 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1502.7972 couple other girls. 1503.8610 1230 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1503.8610 (pause 0.81) 1504.6714 1231 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1504.6714 /RD-NAME-3/ and 1505.9006 1232 DTA_int_05 1507.8423 Seems [to be quite a-] 1508.5503 1233 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1508.1382 [/RD-NAME-2/ and.] 1508.9414 1234 DTA_int_05 1508.8196 [quite] a lot of mixed backgrounds there. There must be some- 1510.9857 1235 DTA_int_05 1511.4830 with a name like /RD-NAME-3/, now w- 1512.8109 1236 DTA_int_05 1512.8109 (pause 0.24) 1513.0490 1237 DTA_int_05 1513.0490 would that be an Italian name, would it? Uh. 1514.9201 1238 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1515.0482 Mm-mm. 1515.4296 1239 DTA_int_05 1515.5852 Not so much, huh? 1516.2717 1240 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1516.4334 Mm-mm. 1516.6500 1241 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1516.6500 (pause 1.66) 1518.3076 1242 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1518.3076 But /RD-NAME-4/ 1519.6897 1243 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1519.6897 (pause 0.36) 1520.0497 1244 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1520.0497 she- her mother is Japanese and her father is Alaskan. 1523.8285 1245 DTA_int_05 1524.3015 Yeah. 1524.6554 1246 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1524.9086 So 1525.2626 1247 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1525.2626 (pause 0.50) 1525.7599 1248 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1525.7599 she's- 1526.3143 1249 DTA_int_05 1527.3503 Does she have some Asiatic char- characteristics? Uh, [/unintelligible/.] 1530.6127 1250 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1529.8133 [mm-hm. She has] real slanted eyes [and her hair] goes down to here. 1533.1184 1251 DTA_int_05 1531.7202 [Mm-hm.] 1532.0720 1252 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1533.5242 It's real pretty hair. 1534.4090 1253 DTA_int_05 1534.8880 Yeah. 1535.2358 1254 DTA_int_05 1535.2358 (pause 1.27) 1536.5028 1255 DTA_int_05 1536.5028 Do- uh, do some of the- 1538.1046 1256 DTA_int_05 1538.1046 (pause 0.18) 1538.2877 1257 DTA_int_05 1538.2877 d- d- uh, some of your friends are white friends, are they? 1540.5524 1258 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1540.8484 Mm-hm. 1541.0955 1259 DTA_int_05 1541.4159 Do- do they discriminate against you at all [or do you] get along all fine? 1544.5741 1260 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1543.3765 [Mm-mm.] 1543.6653 1261 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1544.5984 Mm-hm. 1544.8430 1262 DTA_int_05 1545.3045 Do think the- the Catholic schools helps this? Is there less of this in the Catholic schools than there is in the 1549.1375 1263 DTA_int_05 1549.1375 (pause 0.17) 1549.3083 1264 DTA_int_05 1549.3083 public schools, for instance? 1550.4220 1265 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1550.9323 Uh, 1551.3198 1266 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1551.3198 (pause 2.10) 1553.4189 1267 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1553.4189 I think there's a little bit more- 1555.6988 1268 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1555.6988 (pause 1.47) 1557.1672 1269 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1557.1672 oh, 1557.5730 1270 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1557.5730 (pause 0.37) 1557.9391 1271 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1557.9391 I don't know. 1558.4456 1272 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1558.4456 (pause 0.12) 1558.5615 1273 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1558.5615 I really couldn't say cause I've never gone to the public [school.] 1561.0063 1274 DTA_int_05 1560.7256 [Uh-huh.] 1561.1958 1275 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1562.0650 And- 1562.4097 1276 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1562.4097 (pause 0.50) 1562.9048 1277 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1562.9048 but 1563.1916 1278 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1563.1916 (pause 2.64) 1565.8316 1279 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1565.8316 I don't know. 1566.3411 1280 DTA_int_05 1566.6676 [Do-] 1566.9259 1281 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1566.8659 [Really] couldn't say. 1567.6958 1282 DTA_int_05 1567.6988 you have friends, though, that go to public school, don't you? 1569.7866 1283 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1569.8415 Mm-hm. 1570.1008 1284 DTA_int_05 1570.3541 And what do they say about it? 1571.3457 1285 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1572.7774 Nothing. 1573.3266 1286 DTA_int_05 1573.6134 They don't say too much about it, yeah. 1574.8940 1287 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1576.0673 But my best girlfriend is a white- 1577.7118 1288 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1577.7118 (pause 0.34) 1578.0513 1289 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1578.0513 is a white friend. She lives across the street. She's on a [trip] right now, so 1581.3442 1290 DTA_int_05 1580.3709 [Uh-huh.] 1580.7204 1291 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1581.8323 I have another girlfriend around the block I play with. 1583.9994 1292 DTA_int_05 1584.3076 Uh-huh. 1584.8720 1293 DTA_int_05 1584.8720 (pause 0.73) 1585.5982 1294 DTA_int_05 1585.5982 Well it's nice, that's the way it should be. 1586.9309 1295 DTA_int_05 1586.9309 (pause 0.67) 1587.6035 1296 DTA_int_05 1587.6035 Too often it's not that way. 1588.7137 1297 DTA_int_05 1588.7137 (pause 1.34) 1590.0574 1298 DTA_int_05 1590.0574 Tell me, um, 1590.8476 1299 DTA_int_05 1590.8476 (pause 0.99) 1591.8331 1300 DTA_int_05 1591.8331 is there anybody who is the- sort of the leader of your gang? 1594.1649 1301 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1596.4143 Mm, 1596.7469 1302 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1596.7469 (pause 0.74) 1597.4822 1303 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1597.4822 no [not really.] 1598.3252 1304 DTA_int_05 1597.8453 [Is there somebody] whose suggestions you always follow and who has all the [bright ideas?] 1601.7495 1305 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1600.8605 [Mm-mm.] 1601.2030 1306 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1601.2030 (pause 0.38) 1601.5844 1307 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1601.5844 [Mm-mm.] 1601.9458 1308 DTA_int_05 1602.0085 There are none like that, huh? 1603.0154 1309 DTA_int_05 1603.0154 (pause 2.81) 1605.8293 1310 DTA_int_05 1605.8293 There not too many kids around here who speak different languages? Like Polish, or Spanish, or Hungarian, or something like [that?] 1610.5142 1311 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1610.2389 [No.] 1610.4982 1312 DTA_int_05 1611.8964 Some of their parents do, though I suppose, huh? 1613.6660 1313 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1614.6279 Hm, I don't [know.] 1615.6490 1314 DTA_int_05 1615.3693 [Not that] you know of, huh? 1616.3649 1315 DTA_int_05 1616.7004 Mm-hm. 1617.0226 1316 DTA_int_05 1617.0226 (pause 2.46) 1619.4830 1317 DTA_int_05 1619.4830 Tell me, uh, 1620.3014 1318 DTA_int_05 1620.3014 (pause 1.06) 1621.3606 1319 DTA_int_05 1621.3606 have you decided what you want to go into when you finish school? 1623.6859 1320 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1625.2114 Mm, 1625.5226 1321 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1625.5226 (pause 0.79) 1626.3106 1322 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1626.3106 I want to be a librarian. 1628.1107 1323 DTA_int_05 1628.5745 You do? 1629.0604 1324 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1629.1123 Mm-hm. 1629.3777 1325 DTA_int_05 1629.8293 [Uh-huh.] 1630.1892 1326 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1630.0398 [I-] 1630.3022 1327 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1630.9917 I don't know. 1631.7653 1328 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1631.7653 (pause 1.00) 1632.7683 1329 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1632.7683 I haven't really decided yet. 1634.2541 1330 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1634.2541 (pause 0.76) 1635.0116 1331 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1635.0116 But 1635.2587 1332 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1635.2587 (pause 0.59) 1635.8506 1333 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1635.8506 I wanna be a librarian. I've been saying that for 1638.8293 1334 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1638.8293 (pause 0.40) 1639.2320 1335 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1639.2320 about two years now. 1640.4799 1336 DTA_int_05 1640.5226 Uh-huh. 1640.8499 1337 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1641.6899 Then, 1642.0612 1338 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1642.0612 (pause 0.44) 1642.4975 1339 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1642.4975 you know, after you say that you kind of think. 1644.7499 1340 DTA_int_05 1645.2930 Yeah. 1645.6283 1341 DTA_int_05 1645.6283 (pause 0.82) 1646.4494 1342 DTA_int_05 1646.4494 Why do you think you'd like to be a librarian? 1647.9178 1343 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1649.6325 Well 1649.9414 1344 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1649.9414 (pause 1.64) 1651.5768 1345 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1651.5768 I don't know. I just like to, 1653.1397 1346 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1653.1397 (pause 1.43) 1654.5676 1347 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1654.5676 hm, 1654.8849 1348 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1654.8849 (pause 1.58) 1656.4662 1349 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1656.4662 work with little kids, 1657.8788 1350 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1657.8788 (pause 0.22) 1658.1016 1351 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1658.1016 you know. 1658.4097 1352 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1658.4097 (pause 0.55) 1658.9628 1353 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1658.9628 If- um, 1659.5333 1354 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1659.5333 (pause 1.06) 1660.5920 1355 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1660.5920 I'd like to be the kind of 1661.9506 1356 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1661.9506 (pause 0.36) 1662.3075 1357 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1662.3075 librarian that takes, um, maybe the 1664.6264 1358 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1664.6264 (pause 1.45) 1666.0734 1359 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1666.0734 every morning class, you know, the 1667.7789 1360 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1667.7789 (pause 0.44) 1668.2160 1361 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1668.2160 mothers go to work or something like that and they leave their little kids at the library. And 1672.1740 1362 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1672.1740 (pause 0.41) 1672.5818 1363 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1672.5818 read them stories, and play games, and listen to a [record,] or something like that. 1676.2450 1364 DTA_int_05 1674.9757 [Yeah.] 1675.2761 1365 DTA_int_05 1676.2602 This is more, uh- you'd find this more in public library, wouldn't you? Then you would in [a school library?] 1680.5455 1366 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1679.7431 [Mm-hm.] 1680.0116 1367 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1680.0116 (pause 0.38) 1680.3899 1368 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1680.3899 [Mm-hm.] 1680.5333 1369 DTA_int_05 1681.6714 Where do you have to go for training like this? 1683.6493 1370 DTA_int_05 1683.6493 (pause 0.35) 1684.0001 1371 DTA_int_05 1684.0001 For training for a job like this, do you [know?] 1685.4982 1372 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1685.3395 [Hm,] 1685.4799 1373 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1685.7911 I don't know. 1686.4180 1374 DTA_int_05 1688.4494 Uh-huh. 1688.8338 1375 DTA_int_05 1688.8338 (pause 0.98) 1689.8110 1376 DTA_int_05 1689.8110 Uh, 1690.1771 1377 DTA_int_05 1690.1771 (pause 1.68) 1691.8560 1378 DTA_int_05 1691.8560 you haven't thought, I suppose, about what university you might go to? 1694.5104 1379 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1694.8834 Mm-mm. 1695.1983 1380 DTA_int_05 1696.5798 Let's see, you're eighth grade now, right? 1697.8621 1381 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1697.9048 Mm-hm. 1698.1641 1382 DTA_int_05 1698.6584 Going into ninth? 1699.3918 1383 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1700.3182 Hm? 1700.5623 1384 DTA_int_05 1700.6965 Are you going into the ninth [grade?] 1702.1191 1385 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1701.8171 [Mm-hm.] 1702.0551 1386 DTA_int_05 1702.2808 [Mm-hm.] 1702.5341 1387 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1702.5005 [No,] I'm in 1703.1107 1388 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1703.6355 [seventh grade now, going into the eighth grade.] 1705.7267 1389 DTA_int_05 1703.8529 [Seventh grade now. Uh, going into] eighth grade, yeah. 1706.6228 1390 DTA_int_05 1707.3472 Then you got, what, four years to think about it? 1708.8483 1391 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1709.4616 Mm-hm. 1709.8003 1392 DTA_int_05 1709.9566 University of Michigan has a good school, [library] [science.] 1712.3117 1393 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1711.5310 [Mm-hm.] 1711.7751 1394 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1711.7751 (pause 0.32) 1712.0955 1395 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1712.0955 [My] father went there. 1713.0634 1396 DTA_int_05 1713.2648 He did? 1713.6279 1397 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1713.7072 Mm-hm. 1713.9116 1398 DTA_int_05 1714.1252 And he graduated in dental school there? 1715.4890 1399 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1715.6324 Mm-hm. 1715.8582 1400 DTA_int_05 1716.1275 Well that's a pretty rough dental school, isn't it? It's a very [excellent education. He must] be a pretty smart man. 1720.5371 1401 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1718.7278 [Yeah, that's what he t-] 1719.5364 1402 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1721.4646 Yeah. 1721.7514 1403 DTA_int_05 1722.7682 You sort of think he is, huh? 1723.6591 1404 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1723.8819 Mm-hm. 1724.1931 1405 DTA_int_05 1724.6576 Well that's good. 1725.2007 1406 DTA_int_05 1725.2007 (pause 2.01) 1727.2144 1407 DTA_int_05 1727.2144 You know, I went to the University of Michigan myself. I advise you to go there, it's a very good school. 1730.5409 1408 DTA_int_05 1730.5409 (pause 1.90) 1732.4425 1409 DTA_int_05 1732.4425 Let me see, if you had all the money in the world- have you ever thought about this question? 1735.5188 1410 DTA_int_05 1735.5188 (pause 0.18) 1735.6988 1411 DTA_int_05 1735.6988 What would you do with it? 1737.3533 1412 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1738.6530 Well 1739.0129 1413 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1739.0129 (pause 1.62) 1740.6340 1414 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1740.6340 I wouldn't 1741.1283 1415 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1741.1283 (pause 0.53) 1741.6561 1416 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1741.6561 spend all of it on myself. I'd give it to 1744.0886 1417 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1744.0886 (pause 0.54) 1744.6286 1418 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1744.6286 charities, and 1745.8709 1419 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1745.8709 (pause 0.78) 1746.6492 1420 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1746.6492 to the 1747.0062 1421 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1747.0062 (pause 0.23) 1747.2381 1422 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1747.2381 poor people, and 1748.5012 1423 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1748.5012 (pause 0.56) 1749.0634 1424 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1749.0634 maybe to- 1749.8201 1425 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1749.8201 (pause 0.92) 1750.7446 1426 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1750.7446 donation to the- 1752.0085 1427 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1752.0085 (pause 0.34) 1752.3472 1428 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1752.3472 all the money in the world? 1753.4486 1429 DTA_int_05 1754.0558 All the- well all the money you could ever want, maybe we should say. 1756.6744 1430 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1756.7781 Oh, [wow.] 1757.4267 1431 DTA_int_05 1757.2388 [] 1758.1336 1432 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1757.8532 [Then] 1758.1580 1433 DTA_int_05 1758.9604 Could [you believe that?] 1760.1351 1434 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1759.2289 [I'd give it to,] um- 1760.5439 1435 DTA_int_05 1761.3228 [] 1762.0581 1436 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1761.7682 [I'd give] it to, um, 1763.0134 1437 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1764.9696 charities, and maybe a donation to a, 1768.0520 1438 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1768.0520 (pause 0.75) 1768.8025 1439 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1768.8025 um, 1769.1839 1440 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1769.1839 (pause 1.54) 1770.7225 1441 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1770.7225 to college for the blind or the deaf, or something like that. 1774.3967 1442 DTA_int_05 1774.4425 Mm-hm. 1774.8503 1443 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1775.0771 And 1775.4426 1444 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1775.4426 (pause 0.41) 1775.8559 1445 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1775.8559 hospitals, and 1777.1160 1446 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1777.1160 (pause 1.39) 1778.5073 1447 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1778.5073 I'd send some 1779.5821 1448 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1779.5821 (pause 0.23) 1779.8085 1449 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1779.8085 to, 1780.1923 1450 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1780.1923 (pause 1.02) 1781.2083 1451 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1781.2083 um, 1781.5653 1452 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1781.5653 (pause 0.75) 1782.3136 1453 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1782.3136 some of the poor places in the world. 1784.4066 1454 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1784.4066 (pause 0.89) 1785.2984 1455 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1785.2984 And 1785.6004 1456 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1785.6004 (pause 1.51) 1787.1076 1457 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1787.1076 then maybe I'd spend 1788.3502 1458 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1788.3502 (pause 0.32) 1788.6706 1459 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1788.6706 some on myself. (laughing) 1789.8556 1460 DTA_int_05 1789.8556 How would you spend the money on yourself? 1791.3432 1461 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1792.5340 Oh, I'd buy a 1793.6782 1462 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1793.6782 (pause 1.26) 1794.9391 1463 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1794.9391 house, 1795.6270 1464 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1795.6270 (pause 0.36) 1795.9856 1465 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1795.9856 and a car, 1796.8613 1466 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1796.8613 (pause 0.73) 1797.5943 1467 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1797.5943 and 1797.9421 1468 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1797.9421 (pause 2.83) 1800.7713 1469 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1800.7713 some more junk, 1801.7385 1470 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1801.7385 (pause 0.85) 1802.5928 1471 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1802.5928 and a piano. 1803.5089 1472 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1803.5089 (pause 0.97) 1804.4822 1473 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1804.4822 And 1804.8941 1474 DTA_int_05 1806.9571 [What kind of] a house would you buy? 1808.1168 1475 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1807.0733 [yeah.] 1807.3540 1476 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1809.6828 Uh, 1810.3632 1477 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1810.3632 (pause 1.45) 1811.8124 1478 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1811.8124 um. 1812.1794 1479 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1812.1794 (pause 2.58) 1814.7606 1480 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1814.7606 Oh, a 1815.3106 1481 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1815.3106 (pause 0.98) 1816.2930 1482 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1816.2930 big house. 1817.0161 1483 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1817.0161 (pause 0.69) 1817.7087 1484 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1817.7087 Not a palace, but 1819.0825 1485 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1819.0825 (pause 0.64) 1819.7262 1486 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1819.7262 pretty big house. 1820.7156 1487 DTA_int_05 1821.9147 With a swimming pool, huh? 1822.8696 1488 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1823.1229 [Mm-hm.] 1823.4249 1489 DTA_int_05 1823.2083 [] 1823.9499 1490 DTA_int_05 1825.7720 Tell me, what is this part of town called right here? 1827.9635 1491 DTA_int_05 1827.9635 (pause 0.55) 1828.5157 1492 DTA_int_05 1828.5157 Is there ay special name for it? 1829.8620 1493 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1832.2175 Mm-mm. 1832.6141 1494 DTA_int_05 1832.9109 Like, is it 1833.3685 1495 DTA_int_05 1833.3685 (pause 0.32) 1833.6858 1496 DTA_int_05 1833.6858 n- northwest Detroit or east [Detroit?] 1835.8399 1497 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1835.6782 [I] don't know, I never found that out. I was 1837.6622 1498 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1838.1595 looking in a 1838.6660 1499 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1838.6660 (pause 0.43) 1839.1000 1500 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1839.1000 telephone book 1840.1923 1501 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1840.1923 (pause 0.13) 1840.3266 1502 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1840.3266 and it said- um, 1841.1656 1503 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1841.1656 (pause 0.69) 1841.8559 1504 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1841.8559 was looking for beauty salons and I [saw] this stuff I 1844.8620 1505 DTA_int_05 1843.9398 [Uh-huh.] 1844.2289 1506 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1845.2800 never did know. 1846.0916 1507 DTA_int_05 1846.5615 Yeah. 1846.9581 1508 DTA_int_05 1846.9581 (pause 0.73) 1847.6904 1509 DTA_int_05 1847.6904 Um, 1848.2953 1510 DTA_int_05 1848.2953 (pause 1.31) 1849.6011 1511 DTA_int_05 1849.6011 you n- you wouldn't know what the boundaries of this particular section are? 1852.2761 1512 DTA_int_05 1852.2761 (pause 0.66) 1852.9368 1513 DTA_int_05 1852.9368 This- you're right close to Highland Park here, aren't you? 1855.1374 1514 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1855.1435 Mm-hm. 1855.3906 1515 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1855.3906 (pause 0.66) 1856.0466 1516 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1856.0466 It's right down there, about 1857.1977 1517 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1857.1977 (pause 0.67) 1857.8658 1518 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1857.8658 seven blocks. 1858.6957 1519 DTA_int_05 1858.8025 Actually that's a different city, isn't it? 1860.4204 1520 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1860.4875 Mm-hm. 1860.6523 1521 DTA_int_05 1862.5470 Mm-hm. 1862.8895 1522 DTA_int_05 1862.8895 (pause 0.99) 1863.8755 1523 DTA_int_05 1863.8755 Uh, what is the name of this city again? 1865.2977 1524 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1865.5866 Detroit. 1866.0176 1525 DTA_int_05 1866.2922 Uh-huh, I just wanted to hear the way you pronounce it. 1867.8391 1526 DTA_int_05 1867.8391 (pause 1.57) 1869.4051 1527 DTA_int_05 1869.4051 Your pronunciation is good. 1870.3998 1528 DTA_int_05 1870.3998 (pause 0.35) 1870.7506 1529 DTA_int_05 1870.7506 Don't worry about it. 1871.3181 1530 DTA_int_05 1871.3181 (pause 1.88) 1873.2015 1531 DTA_int_05 1873.2015 What are some of the streets in Detroit? Some of the main streets? 1875.4021 1532 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1876.1831 Um, 1876.5340 1533 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1876.5340 (pause 1.15) 1877.6843 1534 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1877.6843 Jefferson, 1878.4936 1535 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1878.4936 (pause 0.32) 1878.8170 1536 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1878.8170 Woodward, 1879.5310 1537 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1879.5310 (pause 0.35) 1879.8849 1538 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1879.8849 Gratiot, 1880.5470 1539 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1880.5470 (pause 1.06) 1881.6034 1540 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1881.6034 um, 1882.0123 1541 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1882.0123 (pause 3.01) 1885.0184 1542 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1885.0184 uh. 1885.4760 1543 DTA_int_05 1887.3807 What's- uh, what's the one out here, 1889.5155 1544 DTA_int_05 1889.5155 (pause 0.27) 1889.7858 1545 DTA_int_05 1889.7858 it's not very far from here, it's starts with liver? 1891.4303 1546 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1892.1015 With a what? 1892.4798 1547 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1892.4798 (pause 0.32) 1892.7972 1548 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1892.7972 [Livernois.] 1893.3410 1549 DTA_int_05 1892.8346 [S-] 1893.1800 1550 DTA_int_05 1893.6278 [uh-huh. That's] right. 1894.4188 1551 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1893.7987 [Yeah.] 1894.0580 1552 DTA_int_05 1895.1747 A- and what's the one that Cobo Hall's on? 1897.1020 1553 DTA_int_05 1897.1020 (pause 0.82) 1897.9246 1554 DTA_int_05 1897.9246 Down by Cobo Hall? 1898.8200 1555 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1899.1610 Oh, um, 1899.8658 1556 DTA_int_05 1900.7415 Starts with an F. 1901.5763 1557 DTA_int_05 1901.5763 (pause 2.33) 1903.9093 1558 DTA_int_05 1903.9093 F-O-R-T. 1904.5775 1559 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1905.2098 Fort. 1905.8411 1560 DTA_int_05 1906.1953 Uh-huh. 1906.4943 1561 DTA_int_05 1906.4943 (pause 0.90) 1907.3975 1562 DTA_int_05 1907.3975 What are some of the expressways around here? 1909.1557 1563 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1909.9184 Oh, there's, um, 1910.7178 1564 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1910.7178 (pause 1.68) 1912.3967 1565 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1912.3967 Chrysler, and John Lodge, and 1915.3113 1566 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1915.3113 (pause 0.68) 1915.9886 1567 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1915.9886 James Couzens, and- 1917.9376 1568 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1917.9376 (pause 1.60) 1919.5348 1569 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1919.5348 and 1919.8246 1570 DTA_int_05 1920.6095 [/Uh-huh/.] 1920.9085 1571 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1920.7529 [I] can't remember, I just- 1922.1076 1572 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1922.7697 I just ride on 'em. 1924.0123 1573 DTA_int_05 1924.3509 [Where] were you- where were you born? 1925.4729 1574 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1924.3662 [/?/] 1924.5340 1575 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1925.9597 In Detroit. 1926.6278 1576 DTA_int_05 1926.8597 Have you e- 1927.2980 1577 DTA_int_05 1927.2980 (pause 1.10) 1928.3983 1578 DTA_int_05 1928.3983 have you lived all your life right in [this house] here? 1930.6338 1579 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1930.0641 [Mm-hm.] 1930.2960 1580 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1930.8330 Mm- 1930.9886 1581 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1930.9886 (pause 0.24) 1931.2266 1582 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1931.2266 oh, no. 1931.6385 1583 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1931.6385 (pause 0.73) 1932.3715 1584 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1932.3715 My- 1932.6187 1585 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1932.6187 (pause 0.14) 1932.7590 1586 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1932.7590 about 1933.0306 1587 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1933.0306 (pause 0.41) 1933.4364 1588 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1933.4364 four years. I think it was 1934.9474 1589 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1934.9474 (pause 0.79) 1935.7407 1590 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1935.7407 four years 1936.5462 1591 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1936.5462 (pause 0.40) 1936.9489 1592 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1936.9489 I lived- 1937.4768 1593 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1937.4768 (pause 0.20) 1937.6782 1594 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1937.6782 three or four years I lived on Calvert 1939.8849 1595 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1939.8849 (pause 0.57) 1940.4585 1596 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1940.4585 with my brother in an apartment. 1941.9787 1597 DTA_int_05 1942.4882 [Uh-huh.] 1942.8788 1598 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1942.6286 [Me and my] mom and dad with my [brother.] 1944.2342 1599 DTA_int_05 1944.1061 [Uh-huh.] That's probably when your dad was just starting out, was it? 1946.2998 1600 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1946.4127 Mm-hm. 1946.6904 1601 DTA_int_05 1947.3227 Mm-hm. 1947.6858 1602 DTA_int_05 1947.6858 (pause 0.67) 1948.3509 1603 DTA_int_05 1948.3509 Very expensive to get started as a dentist, isn't it? 1950.1519 1604 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1950.3654 Mm-hm. 1950.5912 1605 DTA_int_05 1950.9360 Uh, 1951.2258 1606 DTA_int_05 1951.2258 (pause 0.28) 1951.5035 1607 DTA_int_05 1951.5035 have you lived outside of Detroit? 1952.8399 1608 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1954.6682 No. 1954.9520 1609 DTA_int_05 1955.3120 Have you taken trips outside of [Detroit?] 1956.9822 1610 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1956.7895 [Mm-hm.] 1957.1862 1611 DTA_int_05 1957.2008 Where do you gone on trips? 1958.0649 1612 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1958.4249 Oh, 1958.8193 1613 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1958.8193 (pause 0.20) 1959.0237 1614 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1959.0237 we go to, um, 1960.0397 1615 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1960.0397 (pause 0.70) 1960.7354 1616 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1960.7354 Canada all the time. 1962.1214 1617 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1962.1214 (pause 0.76) 1962.8780 1618 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1962.8780 Almost every weekend. 1964.1072 1619 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1964.1072 (pause 0.51) 1964.6171 1620 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1964.6171 [And we go-] um, 1965.4997 1621 DTA_int_05 1964.6271 [Oh yeah?] 1965.1713 1622 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1965.7255 we went to New York. 1966.9306 1623 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1966.9306 (pause 0.55) 1967.4798 1624 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1967.4798 We went to Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, uh, 1970.2724 1625 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1970.2724 (pause 0.70) 1970.9718 1626 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1970.9718 Massachusetts, 1972.2350 1627 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1972.2350 (pause 0.95) 1973.1839 1628 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1973.1839 and 1973.6659 1629 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1973.6659 (pause 1.62) 1975.2838 1630 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1975.2838 re- we're going to California this year. 1977.6370 1631 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1977.6370 (pause 0.96) 1978.5981 1632 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1978.5981 And we to Ohio 1980.2098 1633 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1980.2098 (pause 1.31) 1981.5218 1634 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1981.5218 and 1981.9642 1635 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1981.9642 (pause 0.97) 1982.9322 1636 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1982.9322 we go camping all- we went to Holland, Michigan for the tulip festival. 1986.5821 1637 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1986.5821 (pause 0.85) 1987.4272 1638 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1987.4272 And 1987.7479 1639 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1987.7479 (pause 1.33) 1989.0756 1640 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1989.0756 we go to Rondeau Park and Point Pelee 1991.5408 1641 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1991.5408 (pause 0.56) 1992.1030 1642 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1992.1030 all the time. 1992.7651 1643 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1992.7651 (pause 0.98) 1993.7415 1644 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1993.7415 And 1994.1228 1645 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1994.1228 (pause 2.65) 1996.7689 1646 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1996.7689 we have a trailer. 1997.6385 1647 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1997.6385 (pause 0.52) 1998.1610 1648 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1998.1610 My father- 1998.6644 1649 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1998.6644 (pause 0.68) 1999.3448 1650 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 1999.3448 we have a trailer that we go in. 2001.0399 1651 DTA_int_05 2001.6644 It sleeps the whole family, does it? 2002.8238 1652 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2002.8391 Mm-hm. 2003.1015 1653 DTA_int_05 2003.4035 That's great, isn't it? 2004.0634 1654 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2004.1854 Mm-hm. 2004.3683 1655 DTA_int_05 2004.6339 [Where do you in Canada?] 2005.5279 1656 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2004.6919 [Two bunk beds.] 2005.6164 1657 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2006.3852 We go to to Point Pelee and Rondeau Park. 2009.1045 1658 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2009.1045 (pause 0.74) 2009.8429 1659 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2009.8429 And- 2010.1976 1660 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2010.1976 (pause 1.66) 2011.8574 1661 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2011.8574 and, uh, 2012.5958 1662 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2012.5958 (pause 2.89) 2015.4859 1663 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2015.4859 we go to Point Pelee, Rondeau Park, 2017.4669 1664 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2017.4669 (pause 1.06) 2018.5256 1665 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2018.5256 and 2018.8490 1666 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2018.8490 (pause 0.72) 2019.5668 1667 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2019.5668 maybe once in a while- 2020.7689 1668 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2020.7689 (pause 0.20) 2020.9672 1669 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2020.9672 once we went to 2021.8711 1670 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2021.8711 (pause 0.49) 2022.3624 1671 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2022.3624 Long Point. 2023.3265 1672 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2023.3265 (pause 1.02) 2024.3486 1673 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2024.3486 We went somewhere else, but I forgot where it was. 2026.4516 1674 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2026.4516 (pause 0.34) 2026.7872 1675 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2026.7872 Oh, we went to Pinery. 2027.8673 1676 DTA_int_05 2028.9543 What do you do when you get there? You do a lot of swimming, and boating, and things like this? 2031.6973 1677 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2032.1190 Well soon as we get there we put up our trailer, and then 2035.2441 1678 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2035.2441 (pause 0.49) 2035.7323 1679 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2035.7323 we look, 2036.1228 1680 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2036.1228 (pause 0.28) 2036.4005 1681 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2036.4005 um, 2036.8185 1682 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2036.8185 (pause 0.31) 2037.1305 1683 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2037.1305 all us kids go wandering all about and 2039.8315 1684 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2039.8315 (pause 0.67) 2040.4997 1685 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2040.4997 looking 2041.1658 1686 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2041.1658 (pause 0.43) 2041.5919 1687 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2041.5919 and see what we can find. 2043.3168 1688 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2043.3168 (pause 0.54) 2043.8566 1689 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2043.8566 See where we are and 2045.2876 1690 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2045.2876 (pause 0.21) 2045.5012 1691 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2045.5012 what- 2045.7361 1692 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2045.7361 (pause 0.13) 2045.8681 1693 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2045.8681 if there's a big hill to run down, or something like that. 2048.4339 1694 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2048.4339 (pause 0.50) 2048.9291 1695 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2048.9291 Then maybe 2049.7987 1696 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2049.7987 (pause 0.65) 2050.4516 1697 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2050.4516 we'll go swimming 2051.3608 1698 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2051.3608 (pause 0.87) 2052.2342 1699 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2052.2342 that evening, for about an hour. 2053.8604 1700 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2053.8604 (pause 0.42) 2054.2845 1701 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2054.2845 We'll come back. And then in the morning first thing we'll do is go swimming again. 2058.1335 1702 DTA_int_05 2058.4325 Yeah. 2058.7736 1703 DTA_int_05 2058.7736 (pause 1.09) 2059.8665 1704 DTA_int_05 2059.8665 Tell me, y- 2060.4371 1705 DTA_int_05 2060.4371 (pause 0.18) 2060.6156 1706 DTA_int_05 2060.6156 uh, what do you do in October thirty first? 2062.6347 1707 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2064.0481 Oh, we go trick or treating. 2065.5187 1708 DTA_int_05 2065.8055 And what's the name of the occasion? 2066.8894 1709 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2067.3380 Halloween. 2067.9573 1710 DTA_int_05 2068.3967 Uh-huh. 2068.7292 1711 DTA_int_05 2068.7292 (pause 0.70) 2069.4310 1712 DTA_int_05 2069.4310 Uh, 2069.8276 1713 DTA_int_05 2069.8276 (pause 0.96) 2070.7895 1714 DTA_int_05 2070.7895 uh. 2071.0319 1715 DTA_int_05 2071.0319 (pause 0.65) 2071.6774 1716 DTA_int_05 2071.6774 Are there any other terms you use to describe this evening- this, uh, 2074.6835 1717 DTA_int_05 2074.6835 (pause 0.27) 2074.9520 1718 DTA_int_05 2074.9520 this 2075.2418 1719 DTA_int_05 2075.2418 (pause 0.37) 2075.6110 1720 DTA_int_05 2075.6110 business? 2076.2365 1721 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2076.9288 Hm. 2077.2716 1722 DTA_int_05 2078.0069 What do you do when you ring the doorbell, for instance? 2079.6766 1723 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2080.9489 We say, trick or treat, trick or treat. 2082.9659 1724 DTA_int_05 2083.0488 Mm-hm. 2083.4455 1725 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2083.8116 And open your bags and fill it with candy. 2086.1648 1726 DTA_int_05 2087.7361 What's- uh, what's the yellow thing that you make, uh, a jack-o-lantern out of? 2092.0458 1727 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2092.2777 Pumpkin. 2092.7536 1728 DTA_int_05 2093.3089 Mm-hm. 2093.7300 1729 DTA_int_05 2093.7300 (pause 0.46) 2094.1915 1730 DTA_int_05 2094.1915 What's the- what's the person that rides on a broom? 2096.5570 1731 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2097.2006 A witch. 2097.7468 1732 DTA_int_05 2098.0733 How about Christmas? What do you do at Christmas? 2099.6049 1733 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2101.8116 Uh, well 2102.3272 1734 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2102.3272 (pause 1.20) 2103.5241 1735 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2103.5241 we 2103.9604 1736 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2103.9604 (pause 0.31) 2104.2746 1737 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2104.2746 go to sleep and we start 2105.9993 1738 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2105.9993 (pause 0.61) 2106.6064 1739 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2106.6064 wishing all this stuff. And /RD-NAME-2/ says, 2109.0206 1740 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2109.0206 (pause 0.33) 2109.3471 1741 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2109.3471 I know I'm gonna get, I know what I'm gonna get, or something like that. And then 2112.7803 1742 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2112.7803 (pause 0.45) 2113.2319 1743 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2113.2319 we wake up in the morning, about f- three o'clock, and come running the steps. And 2117.7056 1744 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2117.7056 (pause 0.81) 2118.5119 1745 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2118.5119 there's everything. 2119.8726 1746 DTA_int_05 2120.7521 [Uh-huh.] 2121.0714 1747 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2120.9779 [It's] all kinds of stuff. 2122.0397 1748 DTA_int_05 2123.2845 What was the best Christmas present you ever got? 2124.8993 1749 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2126.8063 Oh, 2127.1213 1750 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2127.1213 (pause 6.54) 2133.6583 1751 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2133.6583 I can't remember. I think it was a bike. 2135.7483 1752 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2135.7483 (pause 2.49) 2138.2388 1753 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2138.2388 Uh, 2138.6720 1754 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2138.6720 (pause 0.40) 2139.0755 1755 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2139.0755 yeah it was my bike. 2140.1373 1756 DTA_int_05 2143.2594 Tell me, uh, 2143.9825 1757 DTA_int_05 2143.9825 (pause 0.60) 2144.5866 1758 DTA_int_05 2144.5866 do you ever have any fights in this neighborhood? 2146.0519 1759 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2146.5767 Hm? 2146.7994 1760 DTA_int_05 2147.0722 Do they ever ev- have any fights in this neighborhood? 2148.8810 1761 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2149.8543 No, not very many. 2150.8772 1762 DTA_int_05 2151.1122 Do you [ever fight] with your sister? 2152.1068 1763 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2151.2586 [No.] 2151.5111 1764 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2153.3730 Mm-hm. 2154.7163 1765 DTA_int_05 2154.9207 What do you [fight] about? 2155.6086 1766 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2155.1282 2155.3997 1767 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2156.5622 Cleaning up, 2157.1884 1768 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2157.1884 (pause 0.22) 2157.4112 1769 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2157.4112 making up her bed. And 2158.8827 1770 DTA_int_05 2159.5103 [] 2160.0054 1771 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2159.7025 [we had a] fight [this morning.] 2160.8993 1772 DTA_int_05 2160.4783 [] 2161.0427 1773 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2161.5095 Not really a fight, but 2162.9413 1774 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2162.9413 (pause 1.66) 2164.6011 1775 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2164.6011 a fuss and 2165.7330 1776 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2165.7330 (pause 0.32) 2166.0481 1777 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2166.0481 we maybe throw 2167.2044 1778 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2167.2044 (pause 0.42) 2167.6255 1779 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2167.6255 a- 2167.7567 1780 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2167.7567 (pause 0.49) 2168.2418 1781 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2168.2418 throw a 2168.8986 1782 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2168.8986 (pause 0.44) 2169.3410 1783 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2169.3410 shoe or something. [And that's] it. (laughing) 2171.1411 1784 DTA_int_05 2170.2899 [] 2170.7214 1785 DTA_int_05 2172.0432 I really shouldn't ask questions like that [especially when] mother's around.] 2174.8410 1786 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2173.5687 [It's okay.] 2174.1608 1787 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2175.0516 2175.3536 1788 DTA_int_05 2177.4932 Yeah, 2178.1614 1789 DTA_int_05 2178.1614 (pause 0.60) 2178.7653 1790 DTA_int_05 2178.7653 did you ever see anyone get beat up real bad? 2180.5991 1791 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2182.2087 Mm, 2182.6511 1792 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2182.6511 (pause 3.52) 2186.1698 1793 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2186.1698 yeah. 2186.6458 1794 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2186.6458 (pause 0.94) 2187.5893 1795 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2187.5893 It was t- 2188.1945 1796 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2188.1945 (pause 0.69) 2188.8830 1797 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2188.8830 down on- um, 2189.6702 1798 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2189.6702 (pause 1.58) 2191.2545 1799 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2191.2545 on Livernois. 2192.2186 1800 DTA_int_05 2192.6275 [What happened?] 2193.1854 1801 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2192.7190 [This-] 2193.0668 1802 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2193.4856 this- um, 2194.0348 1803 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2194.0348 (pause 1.39) 2195.4200 1804 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2195.4200 these, um, four boys ganged up on these- 2198.2217 1805 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2198.2217 (pause 0.56) 2198.7861 1806 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2198.7861 on this- 2199.4642 1807 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2199.4642 (pause 0.34) 2199.8029 1808 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2199.8029 on t- on these two boys, and they beat 'em up, 2201.9356 1809 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2201.9356 (pause 0.34) 2202.2751 1810 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2202.2751 [s- so.] 2202.7907 1811 DTA_int_05 2202.7022 [Oh] yeah? 2203.1260 1812 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2203.7304 Then the ambulance came and- 2205.4459 1813 DTA_int_05 2207.2735 And [you were just] across the street or something? 2208.7083 1814 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2207.3956 [and that was it.] 2207.8685 1815 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2209.0714 Yeah, I was across the street. T- we w- me and my girlfriend wouldn't go across the street cause we were too scared. 2213.9112 1816 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2213.9112 (pause 0.67) 2214.5802 1817 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2214.5802 There- and someone called the p- um, 2216.3315 1818 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2216.3315 (pause 0.67) 2216.9966 1819 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2216.9966 police and an ambulance. 2218.7976 1820 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2218.7976 (pause 0.31) 2219.1057 1821 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2219.1057 And they came. 2219.6183 1822 DTA_int_05 2220.4714 [/inaudible/.] 2220.9036 1823 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2220.5710 [And there was] a 2221.2758 1824 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2221.9288 murder down there. 2223.1766 1825 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2223.1766 (pause 0.68) 2223.8525 1826 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2223.8525 [Down there,] just a couple- about a week ago. 2226.4215 1827 DTA_int_05 2223.9036 [/Oh yeah/?] 2224.2519 1828 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2227.2819 I wasn't there though. 2228.2339 1829 DTA_int_05 2229.4063 Fortunately, huh? 2230.1183 1830 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2230.0561 2230.2667 1831 DTA_int_05 2231.5390 When this fight that you saw, uh, w- was- was i- was it- were those all white boys, /unintelligible/? 2236.2209 1832 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2236.3643 No, there were- um, 2237.3559 1833 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2237.3559 (pause 1.40) 2238.7571 1834 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2238.7571 there were- um, 2239.4131 1835 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2239.4131 (pause 0.32) 2239.7365 1836 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2239.7365 it was a white boy and a colored boy walking together. 2242.3216 1837 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2242.3216 (pause 0.46) 2242.7792 1838 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2242.7792 And these, uh, white boys I guess got mad and they started beating 'em up. 2246.3072 1839 DTA_int_05 2247.3425 [Uh-huh.] 2247.6479 1840 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2247.4341 [Something] like that. 2248.1080 1841 DTA_int_05 2252.3650 Well that's too bad. 2253.5008 1842 DTA_int_05 2253.5008 (pause 0.89) 2254.3918 1843 DTA_int_05 2254.3918 Have- have you ever been to the hospital yourself? 2255.9970 1844 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2256.6076 No. 2256.8950 1845 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2256.8950 (pause 0.23) 2257.1233 1846 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2257.1233 I've never gone to the hospital. 2258.4831 1847 DTA_int_05 2258.5542 You're a lucky girl, huh? 2259.3901 1848 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2259.4002 2259.6107 1849 DTA_int_05 2260.1233 How long do you think this luck's gonna hold out? 2262.1309 1850 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2263.6419 Oh, I don't know. 2264.5542 1851 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2264.5542 (pause 0.55) 2265.1034 1852 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2265.1034 As long as my like- 2265.9463 1853 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2265.9463 (pause 0.31) 2266.2583 1854 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2266.2583 /RD-NAME-2/. 2266.9226 1855 DTA_int_05 2267.7769 She can come in and sit down if she wants to. I- I may- I don't mind. 2270.4017 1856 DTA_int_05 2270.4017 (pause 3.74) 2274.1431 1857 DTA_int_05 2274.1431 Uh, 2274.5771 1858 DTA_int_05 2274.5771 (pause 0.35) 2274.9280 1859 DTA_int_05 2274.9280 when a person starts to cough and sneeze a lot in the winter, you say he's? 2278.7941 1860 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2280.2865 Got a cold. 2280.9616 1861 DTA_int_05 2281.2270 Uh-huh. 2281.5825 1862 DTA_int_05 2281.5825 (pause 0.92) 2282.4993 1863 DTA_int_05 2282.4993 [He's caught a] cold? 2283.2804 1864 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2282.5298 [He's-] 2282.9447 1865 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2283.8151 yeah. 2284.0500 1866 DTA_int_05 2286.7296 Have you ever seen a b- real bad automobile accident? 2288.7773 1867 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2290.3062 Mm, 2290.5899 1868 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2290.5899 (pause 2.11) 2292.6952 1869 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2292.6952 well I haven't seen it in the- 2294.5510 1870 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2294.5510 (pause 0.69) 2295.2375 1871 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2295.2375 the real action, but I've seen after. 2297.3801 1872 DTA_int_05 2297.7310 Mm-hm. 2298.0209 1873 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2298.1185 When the cars are being towed away. 2299.9682 1874 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2299.9682 (pause 0.88) 2300.8435 1875 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2300.8435 It's terrible. 2301.7470 1876 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2301.7470 (pause 0.59) 2302.3397 1877 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2302.3397 It's- 2302.6113 1878 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2302.6113 (pause 1.06) 2303.6761 1879 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2303.6761 oh, 2303.9385 1880 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2303.9385 (pause 0.56) 2304.4938 1881 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2304.4938 there's- 2304.8294 1882 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2304.8294 (pause 0.49) 2305.3153 1883 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2305.3153 there's blood all over the place, and there's smashed up 2308.1139 1884 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2308.1139 (pause 0.65) 2308.7638 1885 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2308.7638 car, and broken windshields, and. 2311.3946 1886 DTA_int_05 2311.8645 I take it as you've never been in one? 2313.2527 1887 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2313.5578 No. 2313.8355 1888 DTA_int_05 2314.3916 You're lucky. 2314.8554 1889 DTA_int_05 2314.8554 (pause 1.01) 2315.8653 1890 DTA_int_05 2315.8653 Were you ever in a situation where you thought you might die or be killed? 2318.4151 1891 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2319.2894 Mm-hm. 2319.7074 1892 DTA_int_05 2320.1345 What happened? 2320.6203 1893 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2320.7455 Well, 2321.0933 1894 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2321.0933 (pause 0.49) 2321.5785 1895 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2321.5785 uh, 2321.9415 1896 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2321.9415 (pause 1.08) 2323.0216 1897 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2323.0216 we were 2323.4343 1898 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2323.4343 (pause 0.13) 2323.5594 1899 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2323.5594 going across the bridge, 2325.1587 1900 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2325.1587 (pause 0.26) 2325.4236 1901 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2325.4236 the, 2325.7104 1902 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2325.7104 (pause 0.71) 2326.4190 1903 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2326.4190 uh, Ambassador Bridge. 2327.7992 1904 DTA_int_05 2327.9080 Uh-huh. 2328.1997 1905 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2328.2955 And my, uh- 2329.1009 1906 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2329.1009 (pause 0.38) 2329.4770 1907 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2329.4770 this car started 2330.6524 1908 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2330.6524 (pause 0.48) 2331.1368 1909 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2331.1368 coming 2331.5182 1910 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2331.5182 (pause 0.93) 2332.4496 1911 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2332.4496 in, uh, front of my- 2333.7432 1912 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2333.7432 (pause 0.34) 2334.0849 1913 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2334.0849 in back of my father. 2335.3092 1914 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2335.3092 (pause 0.37) 2335.6753 1915 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2335.6753 It was real close and then 2337.3260 1916 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2337.3260 (pause 0.30) 2337.6219 1917 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2337.6219 it, 2337.8050 1918 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2337.8050 (pause 0.21) 2338.0155 1919 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2338.0155 um, passed. And 2339.1954 1920 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2339.1954 (pause 0.44) 2339.6324 1921 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2339.6324 it was about that far away from us. 2342.3313 1922 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2342.3313 (pause 0.37) 2342.7005 1923 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2342.7005 It was right over there, and then 2344.4801 1924 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2344.4801 (pause 0.43) 2344.9133 1925 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2344.9133 it 2345.1528 1926 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2345.1528 (pause 0.32) 2345.4686 1927 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2345.4686 got in front of our- um, 2346.9445 1928 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2346.9445 (pause 0.68) 2347.6235 1929 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2347.6235 got in front of our car. 2348.9354 1930 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2348.9354 (pause 0.39) 2349.3260 1931 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2349.3260 And then 2349.8202 1932 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2349.8202 (pause 0.26) 2350.0796 1933 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2350.0796 it, um, 2350.8035 1934 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2350.8035 (pause 0.64) 2351.4442 1935 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2351.4442 stopped real suddenly. And /it went/ [/you know what I mean, it/-] oh, I was so [scared.] 2355.5990 1936 DTA_int_05 2353.5075 [Uh, mm-hm.] 2354.0735 1937 DTA_int_05 2354.0735 (pause 1.15) 2355.2253 1938 DTA_int_05 2355.2253 [You remember the sound] of it, huh? 2356.0992 1939 DTA_se3_ag1_f_02 2356.5197 [Mm-hm.] 2356.8218 1940 DTA_int_05 2356.7913 [Scared] the liver out of you, huh, as they say. 2358.4419 1941 DTA_int_05 2359.3808 Yeah. 2359.8171