Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_09 0.6531 Uh, 0.8882 2 DTA_int_09 0.8882 (pause 0.10) 0.9898 3 DTA_int_09 0.9898 what kinds of games did you play when you were younger? 3.2484 4 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 5.2234 Oh, things like 6.1051 5 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 6.1051 (pause 0.92) 7.0204 6 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 7.0204 tag and, uh, 8.0887 7 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 8.0887 (pause 0.19) 8.2785 8 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 8.2785 baseball, 9.0592 9 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 9.0592 (pause 0.23) 9.2857 10 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 9.2857 [football.] 9.9469 11 DTA_int_09 9.2857 [Uh-huh.] 9.5890 12 DTA_int_09 10.7183 How did you- how did you play tag, for example? Could you explain that to me? 14.0186 13 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 16.4642 Well we 17.1754 14 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 17.1754 (pause 0.30) 17.4744 15 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 17.4744 chose a spot, say a tree, 19.3571 16 DTA_int_09 19.7091 [Mm-hm.] 20.0560 17 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 19.8438 [and] 20.3887 18 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 21.5367 we would, uh, 22.3724 19 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 22.3724 (pause 0.20) 22.5683 20 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 22.5683 form some sort of a 23.9276 21 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 23.9276 (pause 0.73) 24.6592 22 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 24.6592 circle, 25.3384 23 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 25.3384 (pause 0.27) 25.6112 24 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 25.6112 and choose who was supposed to be it. 27.4572 25 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 27.4572 (pause 0.12) 27.5735 26 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 27.5735 And then [the rest] would go hide and 29.3091 27 DTA_int_09 27.8777 [Mm-hm.] 28.2173 28 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 30.7296 the person that was it would stand at the tree, 33.0850 29 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 33.0850 (pause 0.41) 33.4969 30 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 33.4969 count to ten, and then 34.7367 31 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 34.7367 (pause 0.83) 35.5631 32 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 35.5631 go looking for the rest of 'em. 36.8910 33 DTA_int_09 37.3081 Uh-huh. 37.7029 34 DTA_int_09 37.7029 (pause 0.10) 37.8009 35 DTA_int_09 37.8009 Uh, are there any rhymes that you used or anything to find out who was going to be it? 41.5907 36 DTA_int_09 41.5907 (pause 1.49) 43.0847 37 DTA_int_09 43.0847 Like, I know we used to use one potato, two potato. 45.5111 38 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 48.2092 I can't remember any of 'em, to [tell you the truth.] 50.2714 39 DTA_int_09 49.6999 [Uh-huh.] 50.0550 40 DTA_int_09 50.8664 Uh, how about baseball. Where'd you play baseball? 53.4206 41 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 55.2224 We used to pay- play baseball at, uh, Brady Field or 58.5254 42 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 58.5254 (pause 0.56) 59.0887 43 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 59.0887 Northwestern Field. 60.4051 44 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 60.4051 (pause 0.26) 60.6653 45 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 60.6653 Or Atkinson's Field. 61.9496 46 DTA_int_09 62.0764 Uh-huh. 62.4842 47 DTA_int_09 62.4842 (pause 0.52) 63.0011 48 DTA_int_09 63.0011 What position did you play? 64.3448 49 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 65.2356 Usually second base. 66.4204 50 DTA_int_09 66.4694 Uh-huh. Did you play on any team or anything? 68.4590 51 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 69.0623 I played for the Falcons and the Flaming Arrows. 72.1755 52 DTA_int_09 72.4112 Uh-huh. 72.7407 53 DTA_int_09 72.7407 (pause 0.19) 72.9347 54 DTA_int_09 72.9347 Could you tell me about the- the most interesting game you ever played in? 75.8306 55 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 77.5019 Well actually they were all pretty interesting. Uh, 80.0121 56 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 80.0121 (pause 1.21) 81.2184 57 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 81.2184 I guess the fun of playing made everything interesting then. 84.2857 58 DTA_int_09 84.7877 [Uh-huh.] 85.0928 59 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 84.8704 [There-] there isn't any particular game that 87.0879 60 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 87.6530 stands out in my mind, except 89.5447 61 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 89.5447 (pause 0.52) 90.0684 62 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 90.0684 for perhaps the game we played about my best friend's team 93.5520 63 DTA_int_09 93.6622 [Mm-hm.] 93.9775 64 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 93.7755 [that we] won. 94.5316 65 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 95.6582 Uh, but outside of that. 96.9338 66 DTA_int_09 98.5266 Mm-hm. 98.9286 67 DTA_int_09 98.9286 (pause 0.48) 99.4112 68 DTA_int_09 99.4112 Okay, good. Uh, 100.3292 69 DTA_int_09 100.3292 (pause 0.13) 100.4612 70 DTA_int_09 100.4612 how about, uh any other games when- 102.3041 71 DTA_int_09 102.3041 (pause 0.15) 102.4507 72 DTA_int_09 102.4507 you played when you were, uh, 103.6877 73 DTA_int_09 103.6877 (pause 0.67) 104.3580 74 DTA_int_09 104.3580 younger, such as, uh, 105.7755 75 DTA_int_09 105.7755 (pause 0.55) 106.3234 76 DTA_int_09 106.3234 the little girls might play now? 107.9851 77 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 111.9040 Well actually 112.5745 78 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 112.5745 (pause 0.88) 113.4560 79 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 113.4560 this neighborhood was, uh, like a big family when I was younger. 116.9735 80 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 116.9735 (pause 0.12) 117.0929 81 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 117.0929 [So] 117.5796 82 DTA_int_09 117.1480 [Uh-huh.] 117.5132 83 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 118.0265 tag and- 118.8774 84 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 118.8774 (pause 0.58) 119.4529 85 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 119.4529 and just sitting around on the porch talking, and bicycle riding, 122.7286 86 DTA_int_09 123.6959 [Mm-hm.] 124.0785 87 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 124.0265 [so] forth, were about the 125.7898 88 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 126.3439 essence of it. 127.2285 89 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 127.2285 (pause 0.29) 127.5224 90 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 127.5224 And this baseball, it was mainly for the fellas. I [don't know what] the girls did while we were playing baseball. 132.6975 91 DTA_int_09 130.1489 [Yeah.] 130.5059 92 DTA_int_09 133.2744 Did you ever play any games, uh, like where one person would go hide and the other would try- try to find them? 138.7510 93 DTA_int_09 138.7510 (pause 1.14) 139.8871 94 DTA_int_09 139.8871 What would you call that? 140.7372 95 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 142.5958 Hide and seek. 143.4442 96 DTA_int_09 143.5049 Uh-huh. [And how] did you play that? 144.9071 97 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 143.8970 [Yeah.] 144.1683 98 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 146.2172 Uh, it was the same principle as tag, really. Uh, 148.9441 99 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 148.9441 (pause 0.28) 149.2203 100 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 149.2203 the person that was 150.5826 101 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 150.5826 (pause 0.14) 150.7265 102 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 150.7265 supposed to hide would be chosen by some rhyme or some form of a lot- 155.0458 103 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 155.0458 (pause 0.37) 155.4162 104 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 155.4162 lottery. 155.9520 105 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 155.9520 (pause 0.75) 156.7020 106 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 156.7020 And, uh, 157.3938 107 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 157.3938 (pause 0.49) 157.8835 108 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 157.8835 he would count to 158.8283 109 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 158.8283 (pause 0.30) 159.1296 110 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 159.1296 some given number and then go 160.9378 111 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 160.9378 (pause 0.70) 161.6427 112 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 161.6427 try and find the rest of us. 163.1887 113 DTA_int_09 163.7550 Mm-hm. 164.1860 114 DTA_int_09 164.1860 (pause 1.32) 165.5061 115 DTA_int_09 165.5061 Did you have to run back to the goal, or? 167.5313 116 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 171.5000 Well if you were spotted, 172.7959 117 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 172.7959 (pause 0.49) 173.2876 118 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 173.2876 and you could back to the goal before the person 175.8713 119 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 175.8713 (pause 0.29) 176.1590 120 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 176.1590 that was it 176.8755 121 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 176.8755 (pause 0.09) 176.9704 122 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 176.9704 got back to the goal, 178.0362 123 DTA_int_09 178.1856 [Mm-hm.] 178.5078 124 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 178.4489 [then] you were free. 179.3396 125 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 180.3224 Otherwise, 181.4581 126 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 181.4581 (pause 0.32) 181.7733 127 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 181.7733 if you could keep from being seen and sneak back to the goal, you didn't have to run. 185.9092 128 DTA_int_09 186.8061 Mm-hm. 187.2071 129 DTA_int_09 187.2071 (pause 1.65) 188.8571 130 DTA_int_09 188.8571 Um, 189.2826 131 DTA_int_09 189.2826 (pause 3.43) 192.7142 132 DTA_int_09 192.7142 how about 193.1948 133 DTA_int_09 193.1948 (pause 0.22) 193.4183 134 DTA_int_09 193.4183 t- uh, you ever hear of tackle tackle pom-pom? 195.8274 135 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 197.4529 No, I never have. 198.4357 136 DTA_int_09 198.8367 Uh-huh. 199.2067 137 DTA_int_09 199.2067 (pause 0.51) 199.7152 138 DTA_int_09 199.7152 How about marbles, do you ever play that? 201.2704 139 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 202.9754 Uh, we played with marbles rather infrequently. It [wasn't any-] ever any big 207.1173 140 DTA_int_09 205.7607 [Uh-huh.] 206.0917 141 DTA_int_09 207.4816 [How did you] play marbles? 208.5621 142 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 207.5275 [thing.] 207.8152 143 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 210.2275 In a circle, the- 211.2499 144 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 211.2499 (pause 0.35) 211.5958 145 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 211.5958 everyone would put a certain amount of marbles in the circle and, uh, 214.9148 146 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 214.9148 (pause 0.56) 215.4774 147 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 215.4774 we'd just take turns shooting at 'em. We didn't have any elaborate rules or 218.7286 148 DTA_int_09 219.0194 [Mm-hm.] 219.3227 149 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 219.2061 [anything] for marbles. 220.4324 150 DTA_int_09 221.2111 Good. 221.5447 151 DTA_int_09 221.5447 (pause 0.57) 222.1173 152 DTA_int_09 222.1173 Uh- uh, do you watch TV /not in the/ summer, when you're not in school much? 225.8967 153 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 226.2989 Not very often. 227.1284 154 DTA_int_09 227.4314 Uh-huh. 227.8847 155 DTA_int_09 227.8847 (pause 0.39) 228.2765 156 DTA_int_09 228.2765 How about the movies? Have you seen any of the 230.4590 157 DTA_int_09 230.4590 (pause 1.43) 231.8887 158 DTA_int_09 231.8887 [/recent movies/?] 232.4932 159 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 232.1213 [Oh,] not too many. 233.5349 160 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 234.1816 [Maybe] four or five. 235.3745 161 DTA_int_09 234.2183 [Uh-huh.] 234.5030 162 DTA_int_09 235.6509 What are some of the ones that you've seen [recently?] 237.7981 163 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 237.6254 [ I've] seen, uh, A Patch of Blue. 239.9153 164 DTA_int_09 240.2244 What did you think of A Patch of Blue? 241.7689 165 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 243.1693 Well I thought that for once it was a picture that was, uh, exactly what it was- 247.2532 166 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 247.2532 (pause 0.24) 247.4978 167 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 247.4978 was claimed to be in the advertisement. 249.3734 168 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 249.3734 (pause 0.63) 249.9989 169 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 249.9989 [I thought] it was pretty good, as- as far as a human interest story. 253.5927 170 DTA_int_09 250.0387 [Oh.] 250.2744 171 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 254.0886 That's what it was. 255.3622 172 DTA_int_09 255.5458 Mm-hm. 255.9713 173 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 256.6264 And, uh, 257.2110 174 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 257.2110 (pause 0.13) 257.3396 175 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 257.3396 as such, I f- 258.2030 176 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 258.2030 (pause 0.18) 258.3836 177 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 258.3836 I feel like it re- uh, 259.8284 178 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 259.8284 (pause 0.17) 260.0029 179 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 260.0029 realized its goal. 261.0826 180 DTA_int_09 261.3071 Yeah. I liked it too. 262.5162 181 DTA_int_09 262.5162 (pause 0.55) 263.0672 182 DTA_int_09 263.0672 How about s- uh, Sidney Poitier? Did you 265.3050 183 DTA_int_09 265.3050 (pause 0.41) 265.7182 184 DTA_int_09 265.7182 think he did a pretty good job? 266.9113 185 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 269.1468 269.2814 186 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 269.2814 (pause 0.18) 269.4590 187 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 269.4590 Well 269.8326 188 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 269.8326 (pause 0.22) 270.0530 189 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 270.0530 not being a, uh, 271.1948 190 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 271.1948 (pause 1.88) 273.0714 191 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 273.0714 a critic or anything, it'd be kind of- 275.2967 192 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 275.2967 (pause 0.67) 275.9704 193 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 275.9704 but I- I thought he did a good job. He was convincing enough. 278.8602 194 DTA_int_09 279.2275 Mm-hm. 279.6315 195 DTA_int_09 279.6315 (pause 1.88) 281.5143 196 DTA_int_09 281.5143 Uh, 281.8540 197 DTA_int_09 281.8540 (pause 0.23) 282.0806 198 DTA_int_09 282.0806 how about any- any other movies you've seen recently? 284.6086 199 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 285.0469 Oh, let's see. 286.2805 200 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 286.2805 (pause 4.33) 290.6151 201 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 290.6151 I saw- 291.4307 202 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 291.4307 (pause 0.30) 291.7295 203 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 291.7295 I can't remember the name of that picture. 293.7989 204 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 293.7989 (pause 3.63) 297.4326 205 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 297.4326 The Silencers, that what it [was.] 299.2828 206 DTA_int_09 299.1651 [What] was that about? 300.0285 207 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 300.3897 Oh, it was a take off on James Bond. 302.7110 208 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 302.7110 (pause 0.57) 303.2765 209 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 303.2765 [Had] Dean Martin in it. 304.4580 210 DTA_int_09 303.2765 [Mm-hm.] 303.5489 211 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 304.6080 It- it was, uh, 305.8265 212 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 305.8265 (pause 1.24) 307.0631 213 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 307.0631 sort of- 307.5774 214 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 307.5774 (pause 0.69) 308.2631 215 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 308.2631 it was- it was half comedy 309.7782 216 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 309.7782 (pause 0.74) 310.5192 217 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 310.5192 and, uh, 311.1650 218 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 311.1650 (pause 0.22) 311.3813 219 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 311.3813 I don't know. It's 312.2549 220 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 312.2549 (pause 1.16) 313.4182 221 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 313.4182 [mediocre.] 314.1835 222 DTA_int_09 313.4182 [Mm-hm.] 313.6765 223 DTA_int_09 315.9438 How about A Patch of Blue? Could you describe it for me? Say 318.9989 224 DTA_int_09 318.9989 (pause 0.22) 319.2180 225 DTA_int_09 319.2180 that I hadn't seen it. 320.3396 226 DTA_int_09 320.3396 (pause 0.30) 320.6428 227 DTA_int_09 320.6428 Could you tell me what it was about? 322.1029 228 DTA_int_09 322.1029 (pause 0.92) 323.0182 229 DTA_int_09 323.0182 After your /unintelligible/ about? (laughing) 325.3509 230 DTA_int_09 325.3509 (pause 0.31) 325.6570 231 DTA_int_09 325.6570 325.9578 232 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 326.6304 Well I feel 327.4648 233 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 327.4648 (pause 0.85) 328.3141 234 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 328.3141 that the, uh, 329.2386 235 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 329.2386 (pause 2.14) 331.3815 236 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 331.3815 the underlying theme of the picture was just 333.5979 237 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 333.5979 (pause 0.76) 334.3539 238 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 334.3539 the- 334.7825 239 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 334.7825 (pause 0.13) 334.9171 240 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 334.9171 the 335.2875 241 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 335.2875 (pause 0.17) 335.4528 242 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 335.4528 cruelty that this blind girl 337.3539 243 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 337.3539 (pause 0.72) 338.0763 244 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 338.0763 whose name I can't remember [but] 339.9376 245 DTA_int_09 339.9162 [Mm-hm.] 340.2921 246 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 341.3151 it was a blind girl who 342.8534 247 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 342.8534 (pause 0.52) 343.3723 248 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 343.3723 had lost 344.2202 249 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 344.2202 (pause 0.25) 344.4681 250 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 344.4681 or had been separated from her father somehow. 347.1413 251 DTA_int_09 347.4834 Mm-hm. 347.8479 252 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 348.2366 Her mother was a prostitute, 350.0365 253 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 350.0365 (pause 0.53) 350.5691 254 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 350.5691 and, uh, her grandfather was a drunk. 352.7243 255 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 352.7243 (pause 1.45) 354.1754 256 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 354.1754 And she was, uh, terribly mistreated in the home, made to do all the work, and 358.1641 257 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 358.1641 (pause 0.66) 358.8222 258 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 358.8222 exist off of 360.0469 259 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 360.0469 (pause 0.11) 360.1601 260 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 360.1601 the money she made selling beads. 362.3225 261 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 362.3225 (pause 0.57) 362.8969 262 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 362.8969 Not allowed to go out or have friends or [anything of this] nature. 366.4938 263 DTA_int_09 365.5969 [Mm-hm.] 365.9452 264 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 367.4029 And the story 368.6150 265 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 368.6150 (pause 0.50) 369.1111 266 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 369.1111 develops around the- the friendship 371.5997 267 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 371.5997 (pause 0.60) 372.1999 268 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 372.1999 that she acquires 373.4672 269 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 373.4672 (pause 1.06) 374.5293 270 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 374.5293 with, uh, Sidney Poitier. 376.3325 271 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 376.3325 (pause 0.26) 376.5927 272 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 376.5927 As she sits in the park, 377.9061 273 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 377.9061 (pause 0.38) 378.2887 274 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 378.2887 making these, uh, 379.3355 275 DTA_int_09 379.4488 Mm-hm. 379.8058 276 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 379.8743 necklaces one day. 381.0897 277 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 381.0897 (pause 0.85) 381.9376 278 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 381.9376 And it- it's just the story of how 383.9367 279 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 383.9367 (pause 0.75) 384.6866 280 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 384.6866 a person comes to realize that they're a person. 387.5991 281 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 387.5991 (pause 1.03) 388.6263 282 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 388.6263 And 389.1436 283 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 389.1436 (pause 0.42) 389.5661 284 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 389.5661 what it- 389.9611 285 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 389.9611 (pause 0.14) 390.0989 286 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 390.0989 what it does to them 391.2774 287 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 391.2774 (pause 0.13) 391.4059 288 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 391.4059 inside. 392.1987 289 DTA_int_09 392.7438 Mm-hm. 393.0558 290 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 393.4907 What it does to the person that helps them to realize this. 396.6774 291 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 396.6774 (pause 1.25) 397.9294 292 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 397.9294 And, uh, in a lesser extent 399.7570 293 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 399.7570 (pause 0.48) 400.2406 294 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 400.2406 the, uh, 400.8804 295 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 400.8804 (pause 0.94) 401.8234 296 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 401.8234 feelings of this- 402.9713 297 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 402.9713 (pause 0.28) 403.2468 298 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 403.2468 of the mother and the grandfather who had treated this girl so shabbily. 406.9539 299 DTA_int_09 407.8479 Mm-hm. 408.2703 300 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 409.6508 And then it- it goes on, she 411.6027 301 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 411.6027 (pause 0.67) 412.2743 302 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 412.2743 is able to get into a school for the blind 414.7385 303 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 414.7385 (pause 0.80) 415.5406 304 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 415.5406 so that her life might be a little better. 417.3256 305 DTA_int_09 417.8733 Mm-hm. 418.2682 306 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 418.3172 But it- there aren't any 419.4528 307 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 419.4528 (pause 0.46) 419.9122 308 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 419.9122 other overtones. 420.9100 309 DTA_int_09 420.9284 Very good. 421.5176 310 DTA_int_09 421.5176 (pause 0.32) 421.8345 311 DTA_int_09 421.8345 Um, 422.1957 312 DTA_int_09 422.1957 (pause 0.46) 422.6550 313 DTA_int_09 422.6550 how about any particular 424.2271 314 DTA_int_09 424.2271 (pause 0.24) 424.4702 315 DTA_int_09 424.4702 TV programs that you like? 425.9734 316 DTA_int_09 425.9734 (pause 1.26) 427.2314 317 DTA_int_09 427.2314 That you watch [sometimes.] 428.5739 318 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 428.3671 [None] in particular that- that I think are- 430.7824 319 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 431.1651 that I look at above any other. 432.8674 320 DTA_int_09 433.0631 Uh-huh. 433.5057 321 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 434.1865 I might look at a late movie 435.7478 322 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 435.7478 (pause 0.47) 436.2192 323 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 436.2192 if there's something on that I 437.7719 324 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 437.7719 (pause 0.13) 437.8999 325 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 437.8999 haven't seen and wanted to see. 439.6500 326 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 439.6500 (pause 0.63) 440.2780 327 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 440.2780 But this is pretty seldom too. 441.9988 328 DTA_int_09 442.4273 Mm-hm. 442.8804 329 DTA_int_09 442.8804 (pause 0.90) 443.7805 330 DTA_int_09 443.7805 Uh, do you have a pet around the house at all? 446.2636 331 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 446.7805 No we don't, not now. 447.9125 332 DTA_int_09 448.2835 Well did you have one when you were younger? 449.8601 333 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 450.6590 Yes, I had a dog. 452.0120 334 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 452.0120 (pause 0.77) 452.7775 335 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 452.7775 [When I was] about 453.5060 336 DTA_int_09 452.7775 [Mm-hm.] 453.1620 337 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 454.3478 ten, I think. 455.2661 338 DTA_int_09 456.8917 Can you tell me about your dog then? 458.4910 339 DTA_int_09 458.4910 (pause 0.29) 458.7805 340 DTA_int_09 458.7805 [/unintelligible/.] 459.7637 341 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 459.0897 [If I can remember.] 460.3906 342 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 460.8161 See, he was black and white, I d- 462.3646 343 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 462.3646 (pause 0.43) 462.7907 344 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 462.7907 really don't know what kind of dog he was. I don't think I ever did. 465.9070 345 DTA_int_09 466.1855 Mm-hm. 466.5957 346 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 467.5999 And is- let's see, his name was Reddy. 470.2934 347 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 470.2934 (pause 1.26) 471.5550 348 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 471.5550 And he was s- sort of stupid. 472.9477 349 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 472.9477 (pause 0.41) 473.3548 350 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 473.3548 [] 473.7419 351 DTA_int_09 473.5724 [] 474.1572 352 DTA_int_09 474.5519 474.8552 353 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 475.6202 [Uh,] we used to have a lot of fun though. 477.4509 354 DTA_int_09 475.6202 [Yeah.] 475.8858 355 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 478.0876 Outside of the times that he would get caught in the rope and half choke himself, or run out 482.1803 356 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 482.1803 (pause 0.12) 482.2995 357 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 482.2995 in front of cars. 483.3408 358 DTA_int_09 483.4417 Uh-huh. 483.7537 359 DTA_int_09 483.7537 (pause 0.94) 484.6906 360 DTA_int_09 484.6906 Think a dog's good with kids around the house /or not/? 487.3040 361 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 489.3652 Yeah, well it- 489.9253 362 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 489.9253 (pause 0.21) 490.1335 363 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 490.1335 I think it depends on the kid. If- if the kid is, uh, a responsible sort of kid, 495.2621 364 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 495.2621 (pause 0.51) 495.7723 365 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 495.7723 then I think a pet 496.7977 366 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 496.7977 (pause 0.22) 497.0181 367 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 497.0181 helps him. 497.6395 368 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 497.6395 (pause 0.21) 497.8448 369 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 497.8448 If not, I- 498.7649 370 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 498.7649 (pause 0.67) 499.4396 371 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 499.4396 I don't because they, 500.8517 372 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 500.8517 (pause 0.23) 501.0866 373 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 501.0866 in the first place, 502.1663 374 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 502.1663 (pause 1.07) 503.2385 375 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 503.2385 a lot of kids just want a dog to have one. 506.2411 376 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 506.2411 (pause 0.20) 506.4436 377 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 506.4436 [And they] 506.8815 378 DTA_int_09 506.4436 [Uh-huh.] 506.7672 379 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 507.1509 don't play with 'em 508.2896 380 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 508.2896 (pause 0.22) 508.5130 381 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 508.5130 and they 509.0059 382 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 509.0059 (pause 0.13) 509.1375 383 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 509.1375 forget to feed 'em, 510.2622 384 DTA_int_09 510.6988 [Mm-hm.] 511.0500 385 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 511.0080 [and] things like this. And 512.6232 386 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 513.1601 a little puppy is the same as a little kid, it likes to played with, 516.3035 387 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 516.3035 (pause 0.79) 517.0906 388 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 517.0906 so on, and so forth. 518.2416 389 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 518.2416 (pause 0.75) 518.9917 390 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 518.9917 So 519.5427 391 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 519.5427 (pause 0.68) 520.2253 392 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 520.2253 if- if the kid isn't a sort of a- 522.2243 393 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 522.2243 (pause 0.54) 522.7692 394 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 522.7692 of a person that 523.7487 395 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 523.7487 (pause 0.22) 523.9691 396 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 523.9691 enjoys doing this and having a pet, I- 526.2008 397 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 526.2008 (pause 0.95) 527.1528 398 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 527.1528 I don't think that, uh, 528.4110 399 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 528.4110 (pause 1.22) 529.6324 400 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 529.6324 it's especially helpful. 530.9335 401 DTA_int_09 531.1601 Mm-hm. 531.5882 402 DTA_int_09 531.5882 (pause 0.17) 531.7539 403 DTA_int_09 531.7539 Good. 532.0263 404 DTA_int_09 532.0263 (pause 0.66) 532.6814 405 DTA_int_09 532.6814 Uh, 533.1211 406 DTA_int_09 533.1211 (pause 0.51) 533.6303 407 DTA_int_09 533.6303 how about when you were younger, was there any way to get a wish? Say if you were eating chicken or turkey or something. 538.9171 408 DTA_int_09 538.9171 (pause 1.26) 540.1815 409 DTA_int_09 540.1815 How did that tradition work? 541.5712 410 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 542.8937 Well we did have the- that wishbone tradition with 545.7652 411 DTA_int_09 545.7652 [Uh-huh.] 546.0612 412 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 545.9366 [turkey.] 546.4111 413 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 546.5641 But it- 547.0722 414 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 547.0722 (pause 0.83) 547.9048 415 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 547.9048 we only did it two or three times. I mean, it [wasn't.] 550.4093 416 DTA_int_09 550.3202 [What] did you when you 551.3946 417 DTA_int_09 551.7835 did that? 552.1899 418 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 552.8702 You made a wish and then broke the bone. 555.1662 419 DTA_int_09 555.5274 [Mm-hm.] 555.8539 420 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 555.6008 [And if] you got the large half, you were supposed to get your wish. But you never [did.] 559.7830 421 DTA_int_09 559.7089 [] 560.2722 422 DTA_int_09 561.1019 How about when your tooth came out when you were younger? 563.6706 423 DTA_int_09 563.6706 (pause 0.92) 564.5886 424 DTA_int_09 564.5886 What happened [/inaudible/?] 565.3569 425 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 564.9590 [A good] fairy used to 566.3827 426 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 567.2855 come in and slip a dime in there. 569.2170 427 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 569.2170 (pause 0.34) 569.5599 428 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 569.5599 [Or a] nickel or a quarter. 571.1028 429 DTA_int_09 569.5662 [Mm-hm.] 569.8434 430 DTA_int_09 571.4120 Uh-huh. [Do you still do that with your little brother?] 573.6919 431 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 571.8681 [Depends on how much money-] 573.3073 432 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 575.3242 uh, 575.8386 433 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 575.8386 (pause 2.72) 578.5631 434 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 578.5631 I guess they do. 579.4424 435 DTA_int_09 579.8304 Mm-hm. 580.2039 436 DTA_int_09 580.2039 (pause 0.21) 580.4181 437 DTA_int_09 580.4181 Good. 580.6706 438 DTA_int_09 580.6706 (pause 0.76) 581.4278 439 DTA_int_09 581.4278 Uh, tell me about your- your school. Tell me about college first. 584.3734 440 DTA_int_09 584.3734 (pause 0.17) 584.5417 441 DTA_int_09 584.5417 Uh, what 585.1054 442 DTA_int_09 585.1054 (pause 0.17) 585.2733 443 DTA_int_09 585.2733 courses do you study, or what your major is, or what you'd like to do? 588.4109 444 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 590.3334 Well let's see, I've had 591.5243 445 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 591.5243 (pause 1.31) 592.8375 446 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 592.8375 eight hours of history, and- 594.6876 447 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 594.6876 (pause 0.32) 595.0079 448 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 595.0079 595.1365 449 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 595.1365 (pause 0.98) 596.1191 450 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 596.1191 No, 596.4987 451 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 596.4987 (pause 3.41) 599.9121 452 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 599.9121 fourteen hours of history. 601.5069 453 DTA_int_09 601.8803 Mm-hm. 602.2751 454 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 603.2182 Six hours of sociology. 605.1991 455 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 605.1991 (pause 0.35) 605.5478 456 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 605.5478 Four hours of anthropology. Three hours of psych. 608.7560 457 DTA_int_09 609.0376 Mm-hm. 609.4570 458 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 609.9161 Four hours of management. 611.4803 459 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 611.4803 (pause 2.56) 614.0395 460 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 614.0395 Uh, f- eight hours of science. 616.2773 461 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 616.2773 (pause 1.17) 617.4497 462 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 617.4497 Eight hours of English. 618.9865 463 DTA_int_09 619.3324 Mm-hm. 619.7489 464 DTA_int_09 619.7489 (pause 1.79) 621.5427 465 DTA_int_09 621.5427 Well what [course do you like, uh] best? What are your? 624.2610 466 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 622.2161 [Mostly basics.] 623.3456 467 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 624.4478 I find that the English and the sociology and the psychology are about the [most interesting.] 629.9702 468 DTA_int_09 629.0426 [Uh-huh.] 629.3850 469 DTA_int_09 630.2978 Any particular reasons why you think these are so interesting? 633.2902 470 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 633.8885 Well mainly because they deal with people. 636.1293 471 DTA_int_09 636.6192 [Mm-hm.] 636.9987 472 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 636.7263 [I-] I don't feel that 637.9691 473 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 638.4772 dealing with, uh, f- 639.9192 474 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 639.9192 (pause 0.15) 640.0661 475 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 640.0661 numbers 640.8589 476 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 640.8589 (pause 0.13) 640.9936 477 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 640.9936 and, uh, things like this are especially interesting. Not to me, 644.1527 478 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 644.1527 (pause 0.14) 644.2905 479 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 644.2905 personally. 644.8478 480 DTA_int_09 645.0835 Mm-hm. 645.4722 481 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 645.6773 But when you- when you start 647.2017 482 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 647.2017 (pause 0.70) 647.9029 483 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 647.9029 getting into behavior 649.2293 484 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 649.2293 (pause 0.70) 649.9323 485 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 649.9323 and things like this, I find this pretty interesting. 652.5373 486 DTA_int_09 652.8130 Uh-huh. 653.2415 487 DTA_int_09 653.2415 (pause 0.35) 653.5937 488 DTA_int_09 653.5937 And you're pretty interested in psychology and, uh, 656.3366 489 DTA_int_09 656.3366 (pause 1.29) 657.6253 490 DTA_int_09 657.6253 [/inaudible/.] 658.3630 491 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 657.7416 [Sociology] more than- than psychology, now that I've 660.9804 492 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 661.5191 been able to see both of 'em. 662.9917 493 DTA_int_09 663.3620 Mm-hm. 663.7722 494 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 664.3048 And 664.7344 495 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 664.7344 (pause 0.13) 664.8681 496 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 664.8681 even history 665.8294 497 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 665.8294 (pause 0.16) 665.9855 498 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 665.9855 because, uh, you find in history classes 668.3517 499 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 668.3517 (pause 0.47) 668.8233 500 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 668.8233 on a higher level give you an insight into why people did what they did at the time, whereas 674.1558 501 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 674.1558 (pause 0.51) 674.6672 502 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 674.6672 in high school you just 676.2824 503 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 676.2824 (pause 0.33) 676.6079 504 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 676.6079 are given the facts. This happened [at] 678.6180 505 DTA_int_09 678.5304 [Yeah.] 678.7600 506 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 678.8226 this time 679.6813 507 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 679.6813 (pause 0.38) 680.0578 508 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 680.0578 and this was the result, but 681.5365 509 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 681.5365 (pause 0.24) 681.7753 510 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 681.7753 you- 682.2252 511 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 682.2252 (pause 0.45) 682.6721 512 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 682.6721 and you don't even question 684.2420 513 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 684.2420 (pause 0.34) 684.5794 514 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 684.5794 why in high school 685.8361 515 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 685.8361 (pause 0.14) 685.9721 516 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 685.9721 for some odd reason, whereas when you get in college, 688.7272 517 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 688.7272 (pause 0.57) 689.2996 518 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 689.2996 a simple question like 690.9650 519 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 690.9650 (pause 0.88) 691.8497 520 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 691.8497 why did the Battle of- 693.5192 521 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 693.5192 (pause 0.12) 693.6375 522 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 693.6375 of Lexington start, 695.2281 523 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 695.2281 (pause 0.49) 695.7223 524 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 695.7223 for instance. 696.4580 525 DTA_int_09 696.6865 Mm-hm. 697.0722 526 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 698.0395 Uh, you might know that it started because of political [reasons,] 701.6855 527 DTA_int_09 701.6672 [Yeah.] 701.9182 528 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 702.0927 but you don't 702.6369 529 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 702.6369 (pause 0.19) 702.8242 530 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 702.8242 know 703.2959 531 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 703.2959 (pause 0.21) 703.5099 532 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 703.5099 really why it started, as far as the people were concerned. And 706.8374 533 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 706.8374 (pause 1.14) 707.9794 534 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 707.9794 in this connection that I find, uh, sociology 711.1539 535 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 711.1539 (pause 0.57) 711.7202 536 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 711.7202 important because it deals with 713.2047 537 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 713.2047 (pause 0.13) 713.3394 538 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 713.3394 people. 713.8447 539 DTA_int_09 714.2304 [Mm-hm. 714.5549 540 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 714.4906 [And] 714.9085 541 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 715.5589 then history ties in there too. 717.2120 542 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 717.2120 (pause 0.78) 717.9926 543 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 717.9926 And all the rest- most of the rest of the subjects that I've taken. 720.8249 544 DTA_int_09 721.5987 Good. 721.9384 545 DTA_int_09 721.9384 (pause 0.27) 722.2109 546 DTA_int_09 722.2109 Uh, do you have any Mickey Mouse courses? Do you know what a Mickey Mouse course is? 725.9043 547 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 727.0722 I thought I did, 728.2415 548 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 728.2415 (pause 1.28) 729.5242 549 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 729.5242 well 729.9335 550 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 729.9335 (pause 0.22) 730.1541 551 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 730.1541 one course I had, but 731.5264 552 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 731.5264 (pause 0.13) 731.6549 553 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 731.6549 that was just because I'm pretty good in English. 733.8710 554 DTA_int_09 734.1435 Mm-hm. 734.5179 555 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 734.8325 Course called Freshmen Reading, 736.3476 556 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 736.3476 (pause 0.78) 737.1252 557 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 737.1252 in which you were 737.9763 558 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 737.9763 (pause 0.34) 738.3161 559 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 738.3161 completely on your own. You were only required to see your instructor one time 741.9239 560 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 741.9239 (pause 0.84) 742.7670 561 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 742.7670 and take 743.2170 562 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 743.2170 (pause 0.15) 743.3670 563 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 743.3670 the tests. 744.1171 564 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 744.1171 (pause 0.28) 744.3926 565 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 744.3926 And you were given eight books to read. 746.1619 566 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 746.1619 (pause 0.60) 746.7590 567 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 746.7590 You were tested in essay form and, uh, objectively. 750.1294 568 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 750.1294 (pause 0.88) 751.0079 569 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 751.0079 And I found that pretty easy as 752.6513 570 DTA_int_09 752.9794 Mm-hm. 753.5512 571 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 753.9691 course, I had, uh, no great problem. 755.3700 572 DTA_int_09 756.7232 What is, uh, 757.3568 573 DTA_int_09 757.3568 (pause 0.23) 757.5864 574 DTA_int_09 757.5864 particularly that's of interest in the area of English to you? 760.5068 575 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 761.9886 Writing. 762.4297 576 DTA_int_09 762.9252 [Uh-huh.] 763.2344 577 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 762.9803 [Just-] 763.3354 578 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 763.9201 just [plain write-] 764.6121 579 DTA_int_09 764.1137 [Creative writing?] 764.8753 580 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 766.5466 Are you speaking of poetry and, like- 768.0651 581 DTA_int_09 768.1477 Well yeah, I'm thinking of [short stories] or, uh. 770.5449 582 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 769.0783 [no I don't-] 769.5711 583 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 771.8548 essays. 772.6721 584 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 772.6721 (pause 0.26) 772.9354 585 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 772.9354 [I'd say,] 773.6118 586 DTA_int_09 773.0364 [Uh-huh.] 773.3455 587 DTA_int_09 774.0039 [Mm-hm.] 774.3246 588 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 774.0773 [Rather] than short stories. 775.5823 589 DTA_int_09 776.2200 Good. 776.4588 590 DTA_int_09 776.4588 (pause 1.24) 777.6956 591 DTA_int_09 777.6956 Uh, how about when you were 778.8894 592 DTA_int_09 778.8894 (pause 0.48) 779.3700 593 DTA_int_09 779.3700 younger, when you were in elementary school and, uh, high school? 782.5454 594 DTA_int_09 782.5454 (pause 0.35) 782.8967 595 DTA_int_09 782.8967 Any particular subjects that you liked then? 785.0126 596 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 786.9834 I used to enjoy history 788.4012 597 DTA_int_09 789.0743 Mm-hm. 789.4293 598 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 789.4293 and English. 790.1946 599 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 791.7896 Um, 792.4209 600 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 792.4209 (pause 0.54) 792.9589 601 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 792.9589 793.1150 602 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 793.1150 (pause 1.33) 794.4404 603 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 794.4404 I took an art class in high school that I found pretty enjoying. 797.4771 604 DTA_int_09 797.9304 Uh-huh. 798.3280 605 DTA_int_09 798.3280 (pause 1.27) 799.5956 606 DTA_int_09 799.5956 What did it just deal with painting, or? 801.2487 607 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 801.8058 No, it was drawing. 802.7639 608 DTA_int_09 803.0241 [Uh-huh.] 803.3942 609 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 803.2139 [S-] 803.5231 610 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 804.4538 and, uh, 805.1181 611 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 805.1181 (pause 0.59) 805.7119 612 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 805.7119 sometimes I wish I had, uh, 807.1263 613 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 807.1263 (pause 0.67) 807.7997 614 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 807.7997 continued in that line, but 809.3914 615 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 809.3914 (pause 0.24) 809.6271 616 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 809.6271 I didn't. I just took the one course that 811.6843 617 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 811.6843 (pause 0.14) 811.8251 618 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 811.8251 year. 812.2170 619 DTA_int_09 812.6916 [Mm-hm.] 813.0222 620 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 812.9916 [And] didn't take it, 813.7722 621 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 814.0538 art, 814.3201 622 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 814.3201 (pause 0.16) 814.4793 623 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 814.4793 any further. 815.2513 624 DTA_int_09 816.0742 Uh, and tell me, from your class- 817.5282 625 DTA_int_09 817.5282 (pause 0.08) 817.6109 626 DTA_int_09 817.6109 from your f- 818.1006 627 DTA_int_09 818.1006 (pause 0.12) 818.2182 628 DTA_int_09 818.2182 seat in the classroom, what are some of the common objects you could see when you were in elementary school? 823.0936 629 DTA_int_09 823.0936 (pause 1.18) 824.2721 630 DTA_int_09 824.2721 Or- or any school, as a matter of fact. 826.1701 631 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 826.7853 Well through grade and high school, 828.6313 632 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 828.6313 (pause 0.58) 829.2068 633 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 829.2068 the only thing that- that you could really pay attention to was a nun because most of them were overpowering. 835.9262 634 DTA_int_09 836.1105 836.8143 635 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 837.1722 And they held your attention pretty well. You- 839.3118 636 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 839.3118 (pause 0.51) 839.8171 637 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 839.8171 you weren't too prone to gaze around for fear that the yardstick would come 843.5579 638 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 843.5579 (pause 0.12) 843.6742 639 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 843.6742 crashing down on your hand at any minute. 845.6669 640 DTA_int_09 845.7590 Uh-huh. 846.1538 641 DTA_int_09 846.1538 (pause 0.39) 846.5426 642 DTA_int_09 846.5426 They- they hit you with a yardstick? 848.2108 643 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 848.7436 They used to, uh, 850.2660 644 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 850.2660 (pause 1.24) 851.5047 645 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 851.5047 do that when they felt that- 852.8303 646 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 852.8303 (pause 0.15) 852.9834 647 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 852.9834 that you needed it. 853.9760 648 DTA_int_09 854.2353 Uh-huh. 854.7098 649 DTA_int_09 854.7098 (pause 1.26) 855.9650 650 DTA_int_09 855.9650 Huh, very interesting. 857.0394 651 DTA_int_09 857.0394 (pause 0.62) 857.6579 652 DTA_int_09 857.6579 Does- does your sister go to /RD-SCHOOL-4/? 859.5068 653 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 859.9384 Yeah, all three of us went there. 861.2640 654 DTA_int_09 861.5334 Uh, what grade's your sister in? 862.8598 655 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 863.1496 She's a junior. 864.4332 656 DTA_int_09 864.8334 Oh, is that right? I interviewed somebody from the other day- other week, uh, /RD-NAME-2/ 868.6008 657 DTA_int_09 868.6008 (pause 0.66) 869.2629 658 DTA_int_09 869.2629 /RD-NAME-2/, I guess it was. 870.4415 659 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 871.7884 Uh, I don't know too many of the people [there anymore.] 874.4670 660 DTA_int_09 873.7377 [Yeah.] 874.0415 661 DTA_int_09 874.5343 Yeah, I'll- I'll have to ask her later. 876.2365 662 DTA_int_09 876.2365 (pause 0.57) 876.8058 663 DTA_int_09 876.8058 Uh, what did the teacher write on? 878.4373 664 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 880.6139 Pardon? 880.9782 665 DTA_int_09 881.1037 What did the teacher write on in the front of the room? 883.2312 666 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 884.1037 A blackboard. 884.7651 667 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 884.7651 (pause 0.19) 884.9579 668 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 884.9579 Just a plain old- 885.8779 669 DTA_int_09 886.4456 Yeah. 886.7547 670 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 887.7038 one of the old style blackboards, that's- 889.6537 671 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 889.6537 (pause 0.14) 889.7915 672 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 889.7915 that gets chalk dusty and hard to read in the sun, [and so forth.] 893.7792 673 DTA_int_09 893.2882 [How about the] green ones? 894.3839 674 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 894.4232 No. 894.7691 675 DTA_int_09 895.7976 And what did you sit in? 896.8722 676 DTA_int_09 896.8722 (pause 0.24) 897.1171 677 DTA_int_09 897.1171 Any 897.3742 678 DTA_int_09 897.3742 (pause 0.24) 897.6191 679 DTA_int_09 897.6191 special types of chairs? 898.9720 680 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 900.7538 They were the 901.5313 681 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 901.5313 (pause 0.55) 902.0853 682 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 902.0853 desks that opened, uh, 903.6686 683 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 903.6686 (pause 0.29) 903.9589 684 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 903.9589 from the back, 904.7700 685 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 904.7700 (pause 0.26) 905.0271 686 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 905.0271 hinged at the front. 905.9793 687 DTA_int_09 906.2854 Uh-huh. 906.6772 688 DTA_int_09 906.6772 (pause 2.17) 908.8446 689 DTA_int_09 908.8446 If you walked outside the classroom, where would you be? 911.1190 690 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 912.3099 In a hall with a wooden floor. 914.0935 691 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 914.0935 (pause 0.29) 914.3792 692 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 914.3792 Lockers on each side, the 915.9252 693 DTA_int_09 916.0782 [Uh-huh.] 916.4323 694 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 916.3966 [Catholic] schools are usually, 917.8599 695 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 919.3139 uh, older. You'll find, they're- 921.0099 696 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 921.0099 (pause 0.16) 921.1722 697 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 921.1722 they're not 921.6627 698 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 921.6627 (pause 0.15) 921.8150 699 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 921.8150 nearly as modern as the 923.4496 700 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 923.4496 (pause 0.70) 924.1446 701 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 924.1446 public schools. 925.1915 702 DTA_int_09 925.3598 [/unintelligible/.] 925.7793 703 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 925.5527 [We] had wooden lockers 927.0402 704 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 927.2946 instead of metal ones, and they didn't lock. 929.4189 705 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 929.4189 (pause 0.10) 929.5230 706 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 929.5230 There were 930.0846 707 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 930.0846 (pause 0.51) 930.5915 708 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 930.5915 nothing to lock them with. 931.9812 709 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 931.9812 (pause 1.07) 933.0497 710 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 933.0497 The floors in the- 934.3047 711 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 934.3047 (pause 0.26) 934.5680 712 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 934.5680 on the bottom floor were wooden. 936.4170 713 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 936.4170 (pause 1.44) 937.8557 714 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 937.8557 And, uh, 938.5138 715 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 938.5138 (pause 0.83) 939.3436 716 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 939.3436 it was just an older school. 940.5699 717 DTA_int_09 940.7700 Uh-huh. 941.2257 718 DTA_int_09 941.2257 (pause 1.33) 942.5578 719 DTA_int_09 942.5578 Uh, 943.0996 720 DTA_int_09 943.0996 (pause 0.60) 943.7027 721 DTA_int_09 943.7027 any place to get a drink out in the hall? 945.3926 722 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 947.9120 Just on the second and third floors, there was, uh, 951.3885 723 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 951.3885 (pause 1.45) 952.8404 724 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 952.8404 two fountains- 953.7467 725 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 953.7467 (pause 0.12) 953.8691 726 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 953.8691 were [two fountains] on each floor. 955.2986 727 DTA_int_09 954.1018 [Mm-hm.] 954.4293 728 DTA_int_09 955.7302 Mm-hm. 956.0547 729 DTA_int_09 956.0547 (pause 0.46) 956.5108 730 DTA_int_09 956.5108 Good. 956.7497 731 DTA_int_09 956.7497 (pause 0.99) 957.7446 732 DTA_int_09 957.7446 Uh, 958.2741 733 DTA_int_09 958.2741 (pause 0.39) 958.6598 734 DTA_int_09 958.6598 how about when you were in elementary school, 960.5058 735 DTA_int_09 960.5058 (pause 1.31) 961.8129 736 DTA_int_09 961.8129 was there any 962.4559 737 DTA_int_09 962.4559 (pause 0.09) 962.5477 738 DTA_int_09 962.5477 place outside that you could 964.1027 739 DTA_int_09 964.1027 (pause 0.28) 964.3813 740 DTA_int_09 964.3813 play with- 965.0149 741 DTA_int_09 965.0149 (pause 0.36) 965.3700 742 DTA_int_09 965.3700 play in? Like. 966.2181 743 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 967.4792 Well in elementary school they used to block off the street 970.2343 744 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 970.2343 (pause 0.68) 970.9139 745 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 970.9139 [parallel] to the school at noon hour. 972.8889 746 DTA_int_09 970.9139 [Mm-hm.] 971.0982 747 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 972.9803 That was the only place we could play that- 974.7742 748 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 974.7742 (pause 0.51) 975.2854 749 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 975.2854 [most] Catholic schools don't have playgrounds attached [to them.] 978.2708 750 DTA_int_09 975.2854 [Huh.] 975.5568 751 DTA_int_09 975.5568 (pause 2.28) 977.8416 752 DTA_int_09 977.8416 [Okay.] Okay, y- you mentioned playground. What were some of the things you might find in the playground to play on? 983.1168 753 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 985.5190 Well when I was a kid, 986.6393 754 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 986.6393 (pause 0.49) 987.1262 755 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 987.1262 the playgrounds around here anyway 989.0695 756 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 989.0695 (pause 0.73) 989.7956 757 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 989.7956 if you found a swing or something 991.9077 758 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 991.9077 (pause 0.17) 992.0730 759 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 992.0730 or slide, you were pretty lucky. 993.8218 760 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 993.8218 (pause 0.45) 994.2710 761 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 994.2710 Most of 'em were just 995.5138 762 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 995.5138 (pause 0.30) 995.8140 763 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 995.8140 the- 996.1874 764 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 996.1874 (pause 0.59) 996.7782 765 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 996.7782 some sort of grass or dirt or something. 999.0099 766 DTA_int_09 999.3068 Anything that, 1000.1731 767 DTA_int_09 1000.1731 (pause 0.18) 1000.3506 768 DTA_int_09 1000.3506 uh, 1000.7091 769 DTA_int_09 1000.7091 (pause 0.29) 1000.9996 770 DTA_int_09 1000.9996 you sat on a long board and one went up and the other down? 1003.8618 771 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1004.2261 No. 1004.6026 772 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1004.6026 (pause 0.26) 1004.8660 773 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1004.8660 They didn't have any 1005.6037 774 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1005.6037 (pause 0.12) 1005.7231 775 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1005.7231 [teeter] totters. 1006.7143 776 DTA_int_09 1005.7445 [What-] 1005.9840 777 DTA_int_09 1007.1955 Anything else you can call that? 1008.4507 778 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1009.3629 Seesaws. 1010.2659 779 DTA_int_09 1010.3118 Uh-huh. 1010.6730 780 DTA_int_09 1010.6730 (pause 0.68) 1011.3497 781 DTA_int_09 1011.3497 How about these bars that the kids- kids climb all over? 1014.3494 782 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1014.9894 Monkey bars. 1016.0118 783 DTA_int_09 1016.0822 Uh-huh. What are they like? 1017.2258 784 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1021.5680 They're just a- 1022.5077 785 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1022.5077 (pause 2.45) 1024.9536 786 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1024.9536 a mass of intertwined bars so that it's- it's possible for a person to get 1029.5670 787 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1029.5670 (pause 0.44) 1030.0108 788 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1030.0108 entangled in there hopelessly. 1031.7340 789 DTA_int_09 1032.0405 [] 1032.5364 790 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1032.2670 [] 1032.5027 791 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1033.2986 Made in sort of a- 1034.3577 792 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1034.3577 (pause 1.67) 1036.0231 793 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1036.0231 an open end, uh, 1037.5512 794 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1037.5512 (pause 1.49) 1039.0415 795 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1039.0415 what would you call it. 1039.7975 796 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1039.7975 (pause 3.78) 1043.5781 797 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1043.5781 I don't wanna say it's pear shaped because it's a little flatter on the sides and top [than that,] but 1048.2084 798 DTA_int_09 1047.7220 [Mm-hm.] 1048.0587 799 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1048.6904 that give you the general idea. Open at one end 1051.1853 800 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1051.1853 (pause 0.30) 1051.4884 801 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1051.4884 so it'll fit on the ground 1053.0436 802 DTA_int_09 1053.6925 Good. 1053.9557 803 DTA_int_09 1053.9557 (pause 0.48) 1054.4363 804 DTA_int_09 1054.4363 Uh, what did the kids do, or w- 1055.9823 805 DTA_int_09 1055.9823 (pause 0.11) 1056.0925 806 DTA_int_09 1056.0925 d- you- did you do when you were in elementary school after 1059.2731 807 DTA_int_09 1059.2731 (pause 0.41) 1059.6864 808 DTA_int_09 1059.6864 school was out? 1060.4608 809 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1061.9211 Well most of us came straight home. 1063.6537 810 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1063.6537 (pause 0.32) 1063.9720 811 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1063.9720 [Uh,] 1064.4311 812 DTA_int_09 1064.0026 [Mm-hm.] 1064.3240 813 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1065.4629 in elementary school, most kids are 1067.6852 814 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1067.6852 (pause 1.07) 1068.7568 815 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1068.7568 urged by their folks to come straight home and- 1071.4599 816 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1071.4599 (pause 0.29) 1071.7506 817 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1071.7506 and not 1072.2542 818 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1072.2542 (pause 0.55) 1072.8006 819 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1072.8006 /terry/ along the way. 1073.9357 820 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1073.9357 (pause 0.70) 1074.6374 821 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1074.6374 But as it- 1075.1914 822 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1075.1914 (pause 0.17) 1075.3659 823 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1075.3659 as I 1076.0485 824 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1076.0485 (pause 0.43) 1076.4740 825 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1076.4740 got, uh, 1077.2214 826 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1077.2214 (pause 0.36) 1077.5792 827 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1077.5792 more advanced, say sixth and seventh grade, there were- 1080.2364 828 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1080.2364 (pause 0.36) 1080.5976 829 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1080.5976 were times when I'd go over to a friend's house 1082.9334 830 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1082.9334 (pause 0.13) 1083.0589 831 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1083.0589 after school. 1083.8280 832 DTA_int_09 1084.0690 Is there any particular term that they use 1086.1599 833 DTA_int_09 1086.1599 (pause 0.11) 1086.2701 834 DTA_int_09 1086.2701 for, um, 1086.8578 835 DTA_int_09 1086.8578 (pause 1.04) 1087.8989 836 DTA_int_09 1087.8989 kind of fooling around, messing around after school and running all over the place? 1091.5624 837 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1093.2649 Just fooling around and [messing] around. 1095.1212 838 DTA_int_09 1094.3165 [Uh-huh.] 1094.5893 839 DTA_int_09 1095.1212 Ever heard of ripping and running? 1096.4563 840 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1097.7650 From the parents, the kids didn't use that expression. 1100.2291 841 DTA_int_09 1100.4250 Uh-huh. 1100.8328 842 DTA_int_09 1100.8328 (pause 1.94) 1102.7761 843 DTA_int_09 1102.7761 Did you ever have a teacher that you can recall who hollered a lot? 1105.6904 844 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1106.7619 Quite a few, [yes.] 1108.0292 845 DTA_int_09 1107.9159 [] About what? (laughing) 1108.8985 846 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1110.5241 Well like I say, 1111.9383 847 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1111.9383 (pause 0.35) 1112.2842 848 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1112.2842 the nuns tended to be overpowering and, uh, 1115.2413 849 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1115.2413 (pause 1.96) 1117.2037 850 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1117.2037 I guess it's- it's part of their training 1119.4299 851 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1119.4299 (pause 0.27) 1119.7017 852 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1119.7017 when they're 1120.2159 853 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1120.2159 (pause 1.14) 1121.3607 854 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1121.3607 going through their period 1122.5841 855 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1122.5841 (pause 0.66) 1123.2435 856 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1123.2435 of, uh, becoming a nun. But 1125.0405 857 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1125.0405 (pause 0.51) 1125.5547 858 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1125.5547 when they get through 1126.7179 859 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1126.7179 (pause 0.89) 1127.6087 860 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1127.6087 most of them feel like 1128.8976 861 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1128.8976 (pause 0.94) 1129.8373 862 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1129.8373 you owe them 1131.1476 863 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1131.1476 (pause 1.20) 1132.3445 864 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1132.3445 first respect for being a nun, then for being a teacher. 1135.6720 865 DTA_int_09 1135.9322 Mm-hm. 1136.3332 866 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1136.7405 And a lot of- it's hard for a lot of kids to 1139.2995 867 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1139.2995 (pause 0.53) 1139.8293 868 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1139.8293 realize what exactly- what it is that they want 1142.9731 869 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1142.9731 (pause 0.22) 1143.1966 870 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1143.1966 from you. 1143.7553 871 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1143.7553 (pause 0.12) 1143.8731 872 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1143.8731 Which is absolute 1144.9873 873 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1144.9873 (pause 0.27) 1145.2536 874 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1145.2536 obedience. 1146.1813 875 DTA_int_09 1146.1996 Mm-hm. 1146.5333 876 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1147.2771 So there were 1148.3026 877 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1148.3026 (pause 0.09) 1148.3974 878 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1148.3974 quite a few times when the nuns would get 1150.6720 879 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1150.6720 (pause 0.49) 1151.1648 880 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1151.1648 quite upset. 1152.0527 881 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1152.0527 (pause 1.05) 1153.1026 882 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1153.1026 And 1153.5075 883 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1153.5075 (pause 0.12) 1153.6291 884 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1153.6291 in my opinion, a- a lot of it was uncalled for. 1156.4580 885 DTA_int_09 1157.3546 Yeah. I- are they pretty good teachers, generally? Or how [did they?] 1160.5321 886 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1160.0026 [They're excellent] teachers. 1161.3189 887 DTA_int_09 1161.8333 Uh-huh. 1162.2128 888 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1162.4547 In my opinion. 1163.4923 889 DTA_int_09 1164.0711 Yeah. 1164.3313 890 DTA_int_09 1164.3313 (pause 2.00) 1166.3332 891 DTA_int_09 1166.3332 Can you, uh, recall any 1167.7965 892 DTA_int_09 1167.7965 (pause 0.17) 1167.9649 893 DTA_int_09 1167.9649 particular incident when you got 1169.3454 894 DTA_int_09 1169.3454 (pause 0.17) 1169.5123 895 DTA_int_09 1169.5123 yelled at? 1170.1029 896 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1171.7577 There was one time, we- 1173.2670 897 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1173.2670 (pause 1.22) 1174.4883 898 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1174.4883 we had a boy that, 1175.6731 899 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1175.6731 (pause 0.45) 1176.1262 900 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1176.1262 uh, 1176.7169 901 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1176.7169 (pause 0.61) 1177.3291 902 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1177.3291 laughed a lot, 1178.2597 903 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1178.2597 (pause 0.10) 1178.3576 904 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1178.3576 I'll say. 1178.9609 905 DTA_int_09 1179.1904 Mm-hm. 1179.5170 906 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1179.8088 And he would get spells where he just couldn't stop laughing. 1183.1133 907 DTA_int_09 1183.2894 1183.7900 908 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1184.5291 And there was, uh, 1185.7060 909 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1185.7060 (pause 0.34) 1186.0506 910 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1186.0506 one time where we were in reading 1187.5811 911 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1187.5811 (pause 0.27) 1187.8537 912 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1187.8537 or something, 1188.5576 913 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1188.5576 (pause 0.78) 1189.3369 914 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1189.3369 and he started laughing and I got blamed for it. 1191.8717 915 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1191.8717 (pause 0.15) 1192.0169 916 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1192.0169 And 1192.3478 917 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1192.3478 (pause 0.12) 1192.4638 918 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1192.4638 promptly got hit with the yardstick. 1194.4595 919 DTA_int_09 1194.5486 They really hit you, huh? 1195.5694 920 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1195.6199 Yeah. 1195.9160 921 DTA_int_09 1195.9160 Did- do they ever get in any- any trouble from your- 1198.1455 922 DTA_int_09 1198.1455 (pause 0.73) 1198.8709 923 DTA_int_09 1198.8709 from the parents, like, you know, what's the deal? 1200.7843 924 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1200.9312 Occasionally. 1201.9077 925 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1201.9077 (pause 0.22) 1202.1311 926 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1202.1311 Uh, 1202.5168 927 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1202.5168 (pause 0.19) 1202.7099 928 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1202.7099 I can remember once 1203.9985 929 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1203.9985 (pause 0.46) 1204.4546 930 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1204.4546 a nun hit an eighth grader with a dictionary on top of the head and- 1207.8128 931 DTA_int_09 1207.9322 [] 1208.3254 932 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1207.9597 [and] 1208.4525 933 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1208.5688 just about knocked him out. 1209.7647 934 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1209.7647 (pause 0.83) 1210.5924 935 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1210.5924 And she was in trouble, in fact, she wasn't back the next year. 1213.6934 936 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1213.6934 (pause 0.14) 1213.8311 937 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1213.8311 They must've transferred her or [something.] 1215.5884 938 DTA_int_09 1215.5027 [Uh-huh.] 1215.8031 939 DTA_int_09 1216.7730 Like, do they have a lot of- 1218.1588 940 DTA_int_09 1218.1588 (pause 0.52) 1218.6833 941 DTA_int_09 1218.6833 I guess in the public schools you can't do anything like that. 1221.3680 942 DTA_int_09 1221.3680 (pause 1.02) 1222.3873 943 DTA_int_09 1222.3873 You know, don't they get in a lot of trouble in public schools? 1225.2172 944 DTA_int_09 1225.2172 (pause 0.39) 1225.6077 945 DTA_int_09 1225.6077 I suppose because it's a private school. 1227.5030 946 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1227.6771 Yeah in a public school it- 1229.0638 947 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1229.0638 (pause 0.09) 1229.1587 948 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1229.1587 the teacher would be more likely to get hit back. 1231.6567 949 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1231.6567 (pause 1.13) 1232.7894 950 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1232.7894 Uh, this only happens rarely in a Catholic school. 1235.5413 951 DTA_int_09 1235.6823 Uh-huh. 1236.0553 952 DTA_int_09 1236.0553 (pause 0.17) 1236.2210 953 DTA_int_09 1236.2210 Hm. 1236.5118 954 DTA_int_09 1236.5118 (pause 0.86) 1237.3750 955 DTA_int_09 1237.3750 Can you tell me about the best teacher you ever had? 1239.4812 956 DTA_int_09 1239.4812 (pause 0.24) 1239.7169 957 DTA_int_09 1239.7169 What was she like? 1240.3874 958 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1242.3802 Uh, I'd say the best teacher I had was Sister 1244.8139 959 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1244.8139 (pause 0.38) 1245.1965 960 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1245.1965 /RD-NAME-4/. 1246.1424 961 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1246.1424 (pause 0.09) 1246.2312 962 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1246.2312 My- she was my senior nun. 1247.9119 963 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1247.9119 (pause 1.03) 1248.9465 964 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1248.9465 She's just an excellent teacher, I mean, like she was born to teach or something. 1252.9658 965 DTA_int_09 1253.1632 Mm-hm. Any particularly- 1254.7016 966 DTA_int_09 1254.7016 (pause 0.36) 1255.0628 967 DTA_int_09 1255.0628 particular qualities about her that you 1257.0374 968 DTA_int_09 1257.0374 (pause 0.34) 1257.3771 969 DTA_int_09 1257.3771 appreciated? 1257.9128 970 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1259.0913 She knew her material for one thing, and- 1261.3437 971 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1261.3437 (pause 0.15) 1261.4944 972 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1261.4944 and she didn't have any hesitancy 1263.9679 973 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1263.9679 (pause 0.44) 1264.4087 974 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1264.4087 about letting you know 1265.6945 975 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1265.6945 (pause 0.11) 1265.8047 976 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1265.8047 that she knew it. 1266.6434 977 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1266.6434 (pause 0.24) 1266.8791 978 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1266.8791 And letting you know that she could 1268.4586 979 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1268.4586 (pause 0.60) 1269.0618 980 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1269.0618 teach it to you if you wanted to learn it. 1271.0581 981 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1271.0581 (pause 0.74) 1271.7955 982 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1271.7955 And she was the kind of person that would 1273.6597 983 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1273.6597 (pause 0.29) 1273.9536 984 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1273.9536 go out of her way 1274.9907 985 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1274.9907 (pause 0.60) 1275.5914 986 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1275.5914 but was still not the kind of the person that you could walk over. You had to respect her 1279.7393 987 DTA_int_09 1279.8036 [Mm-hm.] 1280.1228 988 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1279.9872 [for] what she was. 1281.0618 989 DTA_int_09 1282.9168 Did you ever have a teacher you just couldn't stand? 1285.1292 990 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1289.0054 No, not really. 1290.0765 991 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1290.0765 (pause 0.59) 1290.6679 992 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1290.6679 Not- 1291.0444 993 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1291.0444 (pause 0.16) 1291.2036 994 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1291.2036 not one that I couldn't stand. I've had some that 1293.5516 995 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1293.5516 (pause 0.90) 1294.4485 996 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1294.4485 if I could change them, I would've 1296.2248 997 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1296.2248 (pause 0.26) 1296.4843 998 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1296.4843 quite a bit, 1297.2220 999 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1297.2220 (pause 0.18) 1297.3995 1000 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1297.3995 but 1297.6477 1001 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1297.6477 (pause 0.47) 1298.1127 1002 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1298.1127 not to the point of not being able to stand 'em. 1300.2342 1003 DTA_int_09 1300.4148 Uh-huh. 1300.8036 1004 DTA_int_09 1300.8036 (pause 0.85) 1301.6547 1005 DTA_int_09 1301.6547 Uh, can you recall any 1303.2874 1006 DTA_int_09 1303.2874 (pause 0.25) 1303.5399 1007 DTA_int_09 1303.5399 particular trick that you pulled on the teacher? Most of us can 1306.6474 1008 DTA_int_09 1306.6474 (pause 0.16) 1306.8066 1009 DTA_int_09 1306.8066 think of one big trick we pulled on, uh, 1308.9158 1010 DTA_int_09 1308.9158 (pause 1.06) 1309.9780 1011 DTA_int_09 1309.9780 uh, like on April Fool's Day or something. 1312.2556 1012 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1313.3392 Uh, nothing 1314.3190 1013 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1314.3190 (pause 0.36) 1314.6802 1014 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1314.6802 as specific as that. 1316.3454 1015 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1316.3454 (pause 0.09) 1316.4341 1016 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1316.4341 We used to 1317.1445 1017 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1317.1445 (pause 0.16) 1317.3067 1018 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1317.3067 in- in 1318.2529 1019 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1318.2529 (pause 0.15) 1318.4056 1020 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1318.4056 the eighth grade, 1319.3270 1021 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1319.3270 (pause 1.72) 1321.0505 1022 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1321.0505 we used to bring transistors to school when they first came out. 1324.2250 1023 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1324.2250 (pause 0.33) 1324.5525 1024 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1324.5525 [Remember,] you had to 1325.5757 1025 DTA_int_09 1324.5525 [Mm-hm.] 1324.8733 1026 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1325.9486 ground 'em to a radiator or something. 1328.2502 1027 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1328.2502 (pause 0.90) 1329.1475 1028 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1329.1475 And we used to have the wires or antennas strung all over the room, 1333.0536 1029 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1333.0536 (pause 0.65) 1333.6995 1030 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1333.6995 and yet keep them down so low that you could just barely hear it if you weren't sitting in a [desk.] 1338.9381 1031 DTA_int_09 1338.5577 [] 1339.3806 1032 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1339.8188 And the nun would hear it 1341.0435 1033 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1341.0435 (pause 0.47) 1341.5087 1034 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1341.5087 but 1341.8890 1035 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1341.8890 (pause 0.26) 1342.1485 1036 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1342.1485 she couldn't tell where it was coming from and 1344.2516 1037 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1344.2516 (pause 0.48) 1344.7322 1038 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1344.7322 it used to drive her insane. 1346.3910 1039 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1346.3910 (pause 0.78) 1347.1690 1040 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1347.1690 She used to get quite upset about that. 1349.0715 1041 DTA_int_09 1349.9241 What happened when she found out? 1351.7338 1042 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1352.0913 She never did 1352.9424 1043 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1352.9424 (pause 0.14) 1353.0863 1044 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1353.0863 catch anyone. 1353.8134 1045 DTA_int_09 1354.1022 Mm-hm. 1354.4821 1046 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1354.7086 No. 1355.0117 1047 DTA_int_09 1355.7802 Uh, can you remember who the smartest kid in your class was? 1358.6900 1048 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1361.2045 For a while it was me. 1362.4077 1049 DTA_int_09 1362.7517 Uh-huh. 1363.1275 1050 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1363.4974 1363.9045 1051 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1363.9045 (pause 0.36) 1364.2688 1052 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1364.2688 No, uh. 1365.1047 1053 DTA_int_09 1365.2700 Oh no, it's probably true. I- I don't doubt you were. 1368.0832 1054 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1370.1525 All through grade school 1371.4016 1055 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1371.4016 (pause 1.12) 1372.5250 1056 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1372.5250 there was a kid named, uh, 1374.4781 1057 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1374.4781 (pause 1.70) 1376.1770 1058 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1376.1770 /RD-NAME-3/ who was pretty smart. 1378.4003 1059 DTA_int_09 1378.7301 But what's it about him that, uh, 1380.4506 1060 DTA_int_09 1380.4506 (pause 0.72) 1381.1668 1061 DTA_int_09 1381.1668 made him so smart to [you?] 1382.3576 1062 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1382.2872 [Well] I- 1382.6178 1063 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1382.7526 in grade school, there's nothing to being smart but doing your work. 1385.7833 1064 DTA_int_09 1386.2547 Yeah. 1386.5231 1065 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1387.0505 So he did his work. 1388.4127 1066 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1388.4127 (pause 0.45) 1388.8659 1067 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1388.8659 And because he did his work, 1390.3995 1068 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1390.3995 (pause 0.60) 1390.9964 1069 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1390.9964 he was smart. 1391.6945 1070 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1391.6945 (pause 0.16) 1391.8506 1071 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1391.8506 A- [and] the only dumb kids that I can think of were the ones that never did their work. 1396.1270 1072 DTA_int_09 1391.9885 [Yeah.] 1392.2758 1073 DTA_int_09 1396.6658 Mm-hm. 1397.0331 1074 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1397.1525 And they probably weren't dumb, they just weren't working, so. 1399.8213 1075 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1399.8213 (pause 1.04) 1400.8598 1076 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1400.8598 When the work got a little harder though, 1402.6361 1077 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1402.6361 (pause 0.94) 1403.5780 1078 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1403.5780 I can think of, oh, maybe five people. 1406.0729 1079 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1406.0729 (pause 0.39) 1406.4678 1080 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1406.4678 This was in high school though. 1407.6128 1081 DTA_int_09 1407.8883 Uh-huh. 1408.2403 1082 DTA_int_09 1408.2403 (pause 0.87) 1409.1066 1083 DTA_int_09 1409.1066 Any particular qualities in these smart kids that 1411.8525 1084 DTA_int_09 1411.8525 (pause 0.43) 1412.2841 1085 DTA_int_09 1412.2841 stood out? 1412.8751 1086 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1413.1842 Uh, they- they knew what they were after. 1415.1770 1087 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1415.1770 (pause 0.38) 1415.5565 1088 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1415.5565 And, uh, they studied. 1416.8206 1089 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1416.8206 (pause 1.14) 1417.9596 1090 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1417.9596 They come to class and- and be ready. 1419.9862 1091 DTA_int_09 1420.9902 Mm-hm. 1421.4358 1092 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1421.9026 It's just, uh, 1422.8760 1093 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1422.8760 (pause 1.35) 1424.2229 1094 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1424.2229 the qualities of a student I guess. 1425.9208 1095 DTA_int_09 1426.2464 Mm-hm. 1426.6780 1096 DTA_int_09 1426.6780 (pause 0.62) 1427.3025 1097 DTA_int_09 1427.3025 Uh, how about the difference between college and high school? 1430.3241 1098 DTA_int_09 1430.3241 (pause 0.09) 1430.4159 1099 DTA_int_09 1430.4159 Could you 1430.7128 1100 DTA_int_09 1430.7128 (pause 0.60) 1431.3159 1101 DTA_int_09 1431.3159 contrast, compare these for me? 1433.1892 1102 DTA_int_09 1433.1892 (pause 0.77) 1433.9638 1103 DTA_int_09 1433.9638 What do you think the difference is? 1435.3280 1104 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1436.2412 Well from my own personal experience, 1438.3352 1105 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1438.3352 (pause 0.12) 1438.4576 1106 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1438.4576 the- the difference is freedom. 1439.9853 1107 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1439.9853 (pause 0.38) 1440.3618 1108 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1440.3618 Because like I said, 1441.6955 1109 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1441.6955 (pause 0.53) 1442.2259 1110 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1442.2259 going to a parochial school is- is highly 1444.8977 1111 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1444.8977 (pause 0.36) 1445.2627 1112 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1445.2627 confining. 1446.1322 1113 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1446.1322 (pause 0.33) 1446.4658 1114 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1446.4658 [It's, uh,] 1447.1974 1115 DTA_int_09 1446.5148 [Mm-hm.] 1446.8921 1116 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1447.8279 very restricted, they- 1449.3832 1117 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1449.3832 (pause 0.13) 1449.5148 1118 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1449.5148 they wanna be in on your social life as well as your academic life, and 1453.6474 1119 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1453.6474 (pause 1.01) 1454.6606 1120 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1454.6606 everything is well ordered and 1456.6137 1121 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1456.6137 (pause 0.55) 1457.1647 1122 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1457.1647 there are penalties that you face 1459.3780 1123 DTA_int_09 1459.7205 [Mm-hm.] 1460.1046 1124 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1459.8051 [for the] slightest little infraction. Whereas in college you're 1462.7576 1125 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1463.3698 really only responsible to yourself. 1465.5191 1126 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1465.5191 (pause 0.27) 1465.7882 1127 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1465.7882 And if you should happen to stray then 1468.1913 1128 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1468.1913 (pause 0.89) 1469.0790 1129 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1469.0790 it's your fault. 1469.9332 1130 DTA_int_09 1470.3648 Mm-hm. [How about the] studies as such? 1472.4838 1131 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1470.8144 [Cause.] 1471.2077 1132 DTA_int_09 1476.6311 [/inaudible/.] 1476.9315 1133 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1476.8117 [Well.] 1477.2326 1134 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1479.7474 College has more depth- 1481.0221 1135 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1481.0221 (pause 0.33) 1481.3545 1136 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1481.3545 depth to it, but I- 1482.7302 1137 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1482.7302 (pause 1.40) 1484.1341 1138 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1484.1341 I would think that, in as far as in having to study, it's the same difference. 1488.8419 1139 DTA_int_09 1489.0015 Mm-hm. 1489.3474 1140 DTA_int_09 1489.3474 (pause 0.19) 1489.5402 1141 DTA_int_09 1489.5402 Good. 1489.7971 1142 DTA_int_09 1489.7971 (pause 0.47) 1490.2631 1143 DTA_int_09 1490.2631 What time, um, 1491.4836 1144 DTA_int_09 1491.4836 (pause 0.38) 1491.8668 1145 DTA_int_09 1491.8668 when you were in elementary school did you get out of school? 1494.0451 1146 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1495.6657 Three in the afternoon. 1497.0863 1147 DTA_int_09 1497.3924 Okay, say you got out fifteen minutes early, what time would you get out? 1500.6170 1148 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1502.0116 Quarter to three. 1502.7315 1149 DTA_int_09 1502.9914 Mm-hm. That's what I'm after, I guess some people say quarter 'til, 1506.1565 1150 DTA_int_09 1506.1565 (pause 0.18) 1506.3342 1151 DTA_int_09 1506.3342 some people say quart of, 1507.5280 1152 DTA_int_09 1507.5280 (pause 0.10) 1507.6321 1153 DTA_int_09 1507.6321 some say quarter to. 1508.6900 1154 DTA_int_09 1508.6900 (pause 1.74) 1510.4300 1155 DTA_int_09 1510.4300 Uh, is there a bunch of guys that you associate with in college now, and you go around with? 1515.1283 1156 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1516.5157 Well I'm in a fraternity. 1517.7526 1157 DTA_int_09 1518.0709 [Uh-huh.] 1518.3409 1158 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1518.1842 [And,] uh 1518.7719 1159 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1519.6719 I would 1520.1043 1160 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1520.1043 (pause 1.61) 1521.7107 1161 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1521.7107 be around with those fellas if I was around with anyone at all. 1524.7627 1162 DTA_int_09 1525.2892 [Mm-hm.] 1525.5923 1163 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1525.3596 [But not] exclusively, 1526.7325 1164 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1526.8842 I mean this is, uh, 1528.1637 1165 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1528.1637 (pause 1.36) 1529.5259 1166 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1529.5259 be the most frequent bunch of people. 1531.3515 1167 DTA_int_09 1531.7392 Uh-huh. How do you get into the fraternity? 1533.7898 1168 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1534.9351 Oh you have to go through rush and 1537.0137 1169 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1537.0137 (pause 0.55) 1537.5647 1170 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1537.5647 initiation and hell week and all 1540.4484 1171 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1540.4484 (pause 0.69) 1541.1432 1172 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1541.1432 other sorts of things like that. 1542.8270 1173 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1542.8270 (pause 1.24) 1544.0667 1174 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1544.0667 Mainly, uh, they're all 1545.3757 1175 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1545.3757 (pause 0.33) 1545.7107 1176 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1545.7107 adjustment periods to living with a group and 1548.4964 1177 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1548.4964 (pause 0.57) 1549.0658 1178 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1549.0658 this give and take factor, 1550.4863 1179 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1550.4863 (pause 0.13) 1550.6148 1180 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1550.6148 so on, and so forth. 1551.7831 1181 DTA_int_09 1551.9372 Uh-huh. 1552.3203 1182 DTA_int_09 1552.3203 (pause 0.43) 1552.7513 1183 DTA_int_09 1552.7513 Do they have to ask you to join the fraternity or do you ask them or what? 1556.0667 1184 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1556.6728 Well at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 1557.6893 1185 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1557.6893 (pause 0.63) 1558.3168 1186 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1558.3168 uh, the freshmen men that want to 1560.4505 1187 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1560.4505 (pause 0.65) 1561.1025 1188 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1561.1025 be considered, 1562.1187 1189 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1562.1187 (pause 0.41) 1562.5320 1190 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1562.5320 have to sign bid cards. 1564.2488 1191 DTA_int_09 1564.6106 [Mm-hm.] 1564.9705 1192 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1564.6994 [And] 1565.1710 1193 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1566.2730 then the fraternities will- all the fraternities get these cards and if they feel that they want you, they'll 1572.2461 1194 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1572.2461 (pause 0.73) 1572.9739 1195 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1572.9739 send you a- 1573.8258 1196 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1573.8258 (pause 0.93) 1574.7526 1197 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1574.7526 an invitation to a smoke or a something 1576.9932 1198 DTA_int_09 1576.9932 Mm-hm. 1577.3198 1199 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1577.3789 where they'll tell you more about the organization. 1579.4729 1200 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1579.4729 (pause 0.60) 1580.0728 1201 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1580.0728 But 1580.4340 1202 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1580.4340 (pause 0.25) 1580.6883 1203 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1580.6883 t- uh, 1581.0495 1204 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1581.0495 (pause 0.11) 1581.1628 1205 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1581.1628 it's- 1581.6892 1206 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1581.6892 (pause 0.47) 1582.1576 1207 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1582.1576 it's just, uh, a front really, because 1584.7321 1208 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1584.7321 (pause 0.50) 1585.2280 1209 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1585.2280 all the fraternities will send you something 1587.4768 1210 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1587.4768 (pause 0.21) 1587.6862 1211 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1587.6862 anyway 1588.3443 1212 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1588.3443 (pause 0.17) 1588.5188 1213 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1588.5188 just so they can look you over. 1589.8903 1214 DTA_int_09 1590.1383 Mm-hm. 1590.5620 1215 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1590.6709 And after this, there are very few people who just get excluded. 1594.9902 1216 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1594.9902 (pause 0.72) 1595.7097 1217 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1595.7097 And 1596.1566 1218 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1596.1566 (pause 0.28) 1596.4382 1219 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1596.4382 you find that 1597.0964 1220 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1597.0964 (pause 0.43) 1597.5218 1221 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1597.5218 it's up to the person themself if they go to the 1600.1698 1222 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1600.1698 (pause 0.09) 1600.2647 1223 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1600.2647 smoke or to the house or whatever. 1602.2362 1224 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1602.2362 (pause 0.42) 1602.6586 1225 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1602.6586 And they find that they like the group of guys there, 1605.0720 1226 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1605.0720 (pause 0.50) 1605.5760 1227 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1605.5760 usually the guys will like them too and 1607.6332 1228 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1607.6332 (pause 0.10) 1607.7342 1229 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1607.7342 there's no problem. 1608.6647 1230 DTA_int_09 1609.5861 Mm-hm. 1609.9687 1231 DTA_int_09 1609.9687 (pause 1.40) 1611.3648 1232 DTA_int_09 1611.3648 How about, uh, 1612.2647 1233 DTA_int_09 1612.2647 (pause 0.20) 1612.4606 1234 DTA_int_09 1612.4606 people you associate with. Do they speak any other languages? 1615.4331 1235 DTA_int_09 1615.4331 (pause 0.30) 1615.7364 1236 DTA_int_09 1615.7364 Like Spanish or anything? 1617.1111 1237 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1620.7198 Well are you- are you talking about i- 1622.5689 1238 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1622.5689 (pause 0.11) 1622.6760 1239 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1622.6760 uh, the- uh, native languages 1624.2710 1240 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1624.2710 (pause 0.18) 1624.4514 1241 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1624.4514 or do they- [have they acquired] these in school? 1627.0933 1242 DTA_int_09 1625.4764 [/Uh, both/.] 1625.9988 1243 DTA_int_09 1627.1392 Both. 1627.4147 1244 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1627.4943 Both? 1627.8673 1245 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1627.8673 (pause 0.77) 1628.6332 1246 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1628.6332 Well quite a few of them have taken French, German, Spanish, Latin. 1632.4964 1247 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1632.4964 (pause 0.25) 1632.7443 1248 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1632.7443 [Something like this.] 1633.6035 1249 DTA_int_09 1632.9861 [Mm-hm.] 1633.4422 1250 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1634.1340 Nobody that- that has a 1635.9464 1251 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1635.9464 (pause 1.18) 1637.1279 1252 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1637.1279 s- 1637.2901 1253 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1637.2901 (pause 0.21) 1637.4983 1254 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1637.4983 any foreign language at home. In their 1639.6185 1255 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1639.6185 (pause 0.93) 1640.5473 1256 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1640.5473 home background. Which is- which is spoken in the home, that's what I'm trying [to say.] 1644.1995 1257 DTA_int_09 1643.8015 [Uh-huh.] 1644.1600 1258 DTA_int_09 1646.2167 How about, uh, 1647.0954 1259 DTA_int_09 1647.0954 (pause 0.32) 1647.4137 1260 DTA_int_09 1647.4137 are there any white fellas in this group? 1649.1310 1261 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1650.4137 1650.6066 1262 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1650.6066 (pause 0.24) 1650.8515 1263 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1650.8515 Well there was one, 1652.0212 1264 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1652.0212 (pause 0.67) 1652.6944 1265 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1652.6944 uh, first year of college. 1654.2555 1266 DTA_int_09 1654.3841 Uh-huh. 1654.7411 1267 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1654.9014 But he- 1655.4707 1268 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1655.4707 (pause 1.51) 1656.9800 1269 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1656.9800 well he was 1657.6840 1270 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1657.6840 (pause 0.19) 1657.8738 1271 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1657.8738 accident prone. 1659.0280 1272 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1659.0280 (pause 0.20) 1659.2239 1273 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1659.2239 And he was- he a- he left school 1661.4707 1274 DTA_int_09 1661.9117 [Mm-hm.] 1662.3494 1275 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1662.2821 [about] mid way through second semester. 1664.2094 1276 DTA_int_09 1665.8025 Which do you prefer to be called, Negro or colored? Is there any preferences to use. 1669.9858 1277 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1673.8995 It all depends on the tone of voice. 1675.8238 1278 DTA_int_09 1676.1187 Uh-huh. 1676.4815 1279 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1677.1321 [/Although/] t- they're both equally 1678.9565 1280 DTA_int_09 1677.1321 [/Uh/.] 1677.4209 1281 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1679.3605 acceptable as long as they're- 1681.0657 1282 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1681.0657 (pause 0.13) 1681.1943 1283 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1681.1943 they're said 1681.9534 1284 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1681.9534 (pause 0.49) 1682.4432 1285 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1682.4432 to m- mean just, uh, 1683.7412 1286 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1683.7412 (pause 0.76) 1684.4973 1287 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1684.4973 spoken to mean just what they say. 1686.0284 1288 DTA_int_09 1686.2576 Mm-hm. 1686.5821 1289 DTA_int_09 1686.5821 (pause 0.29) 1686.8698 1290 DTA_int_09 1686.8698 I know some people prefer Negro, others 1689.1841 1291 DTA_int_09 1689.1841 (pause 0.52) 1689.7076 1292 DTA_int_09 1689.7076 who likes colored. 1690.5728 1293 DTA_int_09 1690.5728 (pause 1.31) 1691.8780 1294 DTA_int_09 1691.8780 Uh, 1692.2484 1295 DTA_int_09 1692.2484 (pause 1.12) 1693.3688 1296 DTA_int_09 1693.3688 good. Uh, how about in the group of guys that you associate with, is there any one fella who seems to be the leader? 1698.9647 1297 DTA_int_09 1698.9647 (pause 1.03) 1699.9963 1298 DTA_int_09 1699.9963 That, uh, 1700.4868 1299 DTA_int_09 1700.4868 (pause 0.24) 1700.7219 1300 DTA_int_09 1700.7219 the other guys listen to? 1701.9773 1301 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1706.1279 Mm, well as far as the fraternity is concerned, you- I'd say no. 1709.9209 1302 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1709.9209 (pause 0.53) 1710.4474 1303 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1710.4474 We have a pretty democratic group 1712.2564 1304 DTA_int_09 1712.4095 Uh-huh. 1712.7311 1305 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1712.7311 up there anyway, and everybody's word- 1714.9791 1306 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1715.9209 well not everybody, but, uh, the majority of people 1719.0617 1307 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1719.0617 (pause 0.37) 1719.4351 1308 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1719.4351 are listened to 1720.4495 1309 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1720.4495 (pause 0.27) 1720.7177 1310 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1720.7177 just as well as the fella sitting next to him. 1722.7104 1311 DTA_int_09 1722.8851 Mm-hm. 1723.3074 1312 DTA_int_09 1723.3074 (pause 0.83) 1724.1340 1313 DTA_int_09 1724.1340 How about in your- 1725.0700 1314 DTA_int_09 1725.0700 (pause 0.29) 1725.3617 1315 DTA_int_09 1725.3617 say your, uh, 1726.1514 1316 DTA_int_09 1726.1514 (pause 0.15) 1726.2983 1317 DTA_int_09 1726.2983 association of close friends. In your- 1728.3770 1318 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1730.4406 Well 1730.8995 1319 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1730.8995 (pause 0.88) 1731.7780 1320 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1731.7780 two or three years ago perhaps. 1733.7770 1321 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1733.7770 (pause 0.92) 1734.7014 1322 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1734.7014 There were a couple of fellas who 1736.4278 1323 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1736.4278 (pause 0.95) 1737.3770 1324 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1737.3770 might've had a certain amount of charisma, but 1739.6238 1325 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1739.6238 (pause 0.54) 1740.1651 1326 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1740.1651 now 1740.6599 1327 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1740.6599 (pause 0.84) 1741.4973 1328 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1741.4973 everyone's either in the service or 1743.5270 1329 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1743.5270 (pause 0.41) 1743.9348 1330 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1743.9348 at some other school and, uh, 1745.7893 1331 DTA_int_09 1746.3800 Mm-hm. 1746.7240 1332 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1747.1453 there's not as much cohesion as there was. People have learned to rely on 1751.1738 1333 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1751.1738 (pause 0.17) 1751.3421 1334 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1751.3421 what they think rather than what 1752.9494 1335 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1752.9494 (pause 0.83) 1753.7789 1336 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1753.7789 the so-called leader would think, [so,] uh. 1756.1853 1337 DTA_int_09 1755.6764 [Yeah.] 1755.9173 1338 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1757.1646 I would say no. 1757.9628 1339 DTA_int_09 1758.9035 Uh, 1759.3940 1340 DTA_int_09 1759.3940 (pause 0.65) 1760.0483 1341 DTA_int_09 1760.0483 what would you like to do when you finish your study- 1762.2861 1342 DTA_int_09 1762.2861 (pause 0.75) 1763.0393 1343 DTA_int_09 1763.0393 say, finish college? 1764.2641 1344 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1765.9809 I haven't decided what I'd like to do with it 1768.1055 1345 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1768.1055 (pause 0.36) 1768.4667 1346 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1768.4667 yet. 1768.9075 1347 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1768.9075 (pause 0.13) 1769.0391 1348 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1769.0391 Uh, 1769.4982 1349 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1769.4982 (pause 1.17) 1770.6678 1350 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1770.6678 opportunities are opening up. 1772.3238 1351 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1772.3238 (pause 0.23) 1772.5564 1352 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1772.5564 I probably won't decide until I'm really out there. 1775.0544 1353 DTA_int_09 1775.2136 Uh-huh. What are some of the possibilities that you can think of? 1778.0115 1354 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1778.3360 Oh teaching, social work, 1779.9769 1355 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1779.9769 (pause 0.32) 1780.2953 1356 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1780.2953 or 1780.7238 1357 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1780.7238 (pause 0.65) 1781.3727 1358 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1781.3727 some sort of clinical sociologist. 1783.7758 1359 DTA_int_09 1784.1217 Mm-hm. 1784.5166 1360 DTA_int_09 1784.5166 (pause 0.53) 1785.0464 1361 DTA_int_09 1785.0464 Would you have to go into, uh, 1786.3228 1362 DTA_int_09 1786.3228 (pause 0.27) 1786.5952 1363 DTA_int_09 1786.5952 graduate school for this? 1787.8994 1364 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1787.9423 Yeah, 1788.2790 1365 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1788.2790 (pause 0.26) 1788.5392 1366 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1788.5392 for- 1788.9371 1367 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1788.9371 (pause 0.67) 1789.6075 1368 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1789.6075 for clinical sociology I would. Uh, for social work, no. 1793.2545 1369 DTA_int_09 1793.6056 Mm-hm. 1793.9945 1370 DTA_int_09 1793.9945 (pause 1.46) 1795.4575 1371 DTA_int_09 1795.4575 Good. 1795.7207 1372 DTA_int_09 1795.7207 (pause 0.91) 1796.6331 1373 DTA_int_09 1796.6331 Uh, say if you had all the money in the world. That is, 1799.2962 1374 DTA_int_09 1799.2962 (pause 0.13) 1799.4248 1375 DTA_int_09 1799.4248 enough money to do what you wanted to do. 1801.9615 1376 DTA_int_09 1801.9615 (pause 0.09) 1802.0544 1377 DTA_int_09 1802.0544 /??/ 1802.5015 1378 DTA_int_09 1802.5015 (pause 0.42) 1802.9184 1379 DTA_int_09 1802.9184 That money would be no hindrance, what would you like to do? 1805.3574 1380 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1809.6341 1809.7749 1381 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1809.7749 (pause 1.64) 1811.4186 1382 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1811.4186 I don't know. I 1812.4688 1383 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1812.4688 (pause 0.69) 1813.1636 1384 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1813.1636 haven't thought about that, really. 1815.0111 1385 DTA_int_09 1815.4780 Kind of a remote possibility, yeah? 1817.4248 1386 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1818.3096 I'd probably, uh, 1819.4177 1387 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1819.4177 (pause 0.80) 1820.2166 1388 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1820.2166 well first thing I'd do would be 1821.6035 1389 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1821.6035 (pause 0.63) 1822.2340 1390 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1822.2340 to give my parents 1823.4217 1391 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1823.4217 (pause 0.11) 1823.5319 1392 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1823.5319 enough so they wouldn't have to worry about [anything.] 1825.8677 1393 DTA_int_09 1825.4667 [Mm-hm.] 1825.8324 1394 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1826.5901 Then I'd probably get married. 1828.1300 1395 DTA_int_09 1828.8370 Get married? Huh. 1829.6668 1396 DTA_int_09 1829.6668 (pause 1.16) 1830.8238 1397 DTA_int_09 1830.8238 Do [you have] prospects now? 1832.1546 1398 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1831.0247 [But-] 1831.2613 1399 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1833.2576 Yeah. 1833.6647 1400 DTA_int_09 1834.9503 Pretty serious? 1835.6882 1401 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1836.7596 I like to think so. 1837.8983 1402 DTA_int_09 1838.1095 1838.6574 1403 DTA_int_09 1838.6574 (pause 0.20) 1838.8535 1404 DTA_int_09 1838.8535 Good. 1839.1815 1405 DTA_int_09 1839.1815 (pause 1.06) 1840.2401 1406 DTA_int_09 1840.2401 You're like twenty years old now are you? 1841.8872 1407 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1842.2147 Twenty, [yes.] 1842.9737 1408 DTA_int_09 1842.6922 [Ah, you're] young /?/. 1843.7400 1409 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1845.8575 Yeah, but it only last for a minute. 1847.7402 1410 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1847.7402 (pause 0.09) 1847.8321 1411 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1847.8321 I- 1848.1290 1412 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1848.1290 (pause 1.10) 1849.2310 1413 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1849.2310 sometimes I think I'm still eighteen or 1851.3861 1414 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1851.3861 (pause 0.46) 1851.8453 1415 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1851.8453 seventeen or something like that. Doesn't seem like it was that long ago. 1855.4177 1416 DTA_int_09 1855.8493 Yeah, I know. I'm twenty-five, sometimes it seems like I'm [sixteen.] 1859.3018 1417 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1858.9197 [] 1859.3986 1418 DTA_int_09 1859.5780 [] 1860.0830 1419 DTA_int_09 1860.0830 (pause 1.26) 1861.3381 1420 DTA_int_09 1861.3381 Uh, describe what you are doing for the summer no that school's out. 1864.6958 1421 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1865.3727 I's working down at /RD-WORK-7/ now. 1867.8891 1422 DTA_int_09 1868.0635 Uh-huh. Describe what you do in a- 1869.7289 1423 DTA_int_09 1869.7289 (pause 0.24) 1869.9728 1424 DTA_int_09 1869.9728 in a full day's work. 1871.0880 1425 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1872.2514 Well it's a, 1873.1483 1426 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1873.1483 (pause 0.98) 1874.1248 1427 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1874.1248 file clerking job. 1875.7014 1428 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1875.7014 (pause 0.12) 1875.8208 1429 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1875.8208 What we're doing now is 1877.0727 1430 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1877.0727 (pause 0.95) 1878.0218 1431 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1878.0218 we're refiling 1879.4820 1432 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1879.4820 (pause 0.80) 1880.2809 1433 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1880.2809 the folders with the records of the men that 1882.7683 1434 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1882.7683 (pause 0.47) 1883.2371 1435 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1883.2371 have been discharged from the service. And, oh I couldn't say how many years 1887.3209 1436 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1887.3209 (pause 0.19) 1887.5124 1437 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1887.5124 past, but 1888.1684 1438 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1888.1684 (pause 1.09) 1889.2625 1439 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1889.2625 what we have to do is break them down into, 1891.5493 1440 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1891.5493 (pause 2.72) 1894.2646 1441 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1894.2646 oh, 1894.8768 1442 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1894.8768 (pause 1.69) 1896.5698 1443 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1896.5698 a hundred- say, 1897.6408 1444 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1897.6408 (pause 0.81) 1898.4462 1445 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1898.4462 from unit of a thousand, we have to make ten hundreds and files them according to [this,] 1903.3595 1446 DTA_int_09 1903.2003 [Mm-hm.] 1903.5615 1447 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1903.7329 instead of the old method. 1905.0660 1448 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1905.0660 (pause 0.78) 1905.8453 1449 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1905.8453 And, uh, 1906.6130 1450 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1906.6130 (pause 0.99) 1907.6023 1451 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1907.6023 it requires taking all the folders out of the file cabinets 1911.2884 1452 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1911.2884 (pause 1.15) 1912.4391 1453 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1912.4391 then refiling them according to digits of 1914.9952 1454 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1914.9952 (pause 0.11) 1915.1054 1455 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1915.1054 O-O 1915.8921 1456 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1915.8921 (pause 0.55) 1916.4462 1457 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1916.4462 to O-nine. 1917.6507 1458 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1917.6507 (pause 0.41) 1918.0565 1459 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1918.0565 And so on, up to ninety-nine- ninety to ninety-nine. 1920.9769 1460 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1920.9769 (pause 0.57) 1921.5462 1461 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1921.5462 And then refiling them. 1922.6115 1462 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1922.6115 (pause 0.72) 1923.3341 1463 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1923.3341 And then sequence checking to make sure that 1925.4798 1464 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1925.4798 (pause 0.21) 1925.6882 1465 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1925.6882 everything is in the right place. 1927.3962 1466 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1927.3962 (pause 0.40) 1927.7972 1467 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1927.7972 And then labeling. 1928.6825 1468 DTA_int_09 1929.1688 Mm-hm. 1929.5606 1469 DTA_int_09 1929.5606 (pause 0.53) 1930.0932 1470 DTA_int_09 1930.0932 Is it boring? 1930.6258 1471 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1931.1982 Quite. 1931.5533 1472 DTA_int_09 1931.9116 [] I could imagine. (laughing) 1933.5583 1473 DTA_int_09 1933.5583 (pause 1.67) 1935.2269 1474 DTA_int_09 1935.2269 Uh, what do they call this part of town here? This particular neighborhood? 1938.7796 1475 DTA_int_09 1938.7796 (pause 1.06) 1939.8431 1476 DTA_int_09 1939.8431 Mm-hm. 1940.2196 1477 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1940.3666 Just the West Side. 1941.4013 1478 DTA_int_09 1941.6065 Uh-huh. 1941.9620 1479 DTA_int_09 1941.9620 (pause 0.94) 1942.9044 1480 DTA_int_09 1942.9044 And then what are the boundaries for the West Side? 1944.9646 1481 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1947.5606 Well it- 1948.2095 1482 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1948.2095 (pause 1.68) 1949.8871 1483 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1949.8871 1950.0647 1484 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1950.0647 (pause 0.61) 1950.6738 1485 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1950.6738 I'd say Woodward Avenue, 1952.4951 1486 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1952.4951 (pause 1.95) 1954.4421 1487 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1954.4421 after you cross Wood- or 1956.0095 1488 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1956.0095 (pause 0.38) 1956.3861 1489 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1956.3861 before you cross Woodward. 1957.8033 1490 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1957.8033 (pause 2.27) 1960.0687 1491 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1960.0687 And, uh, 1961.3329 1492 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1961.3329 (pause 3.51) 1964.8443 1493 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1964.8443 hm. 1965.2085 1494 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1965.2085 (pause 1.23) 1966.4360 1495 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1966.4360 I guess before you cross Puritan. 1968.8299 1496 DTA_int_09 1969.8646 Mm-hm. 1970.3176 1497 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1972.9931 It's hard to say, boundaries in Detroit fluctuate so much, [see.] 1976.5043 1498 DTA_int_09 1976.1064 [Mm-hm.] 1976.5043 1499 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1977.1657 Two sections of town, they call it East Side 1979.5457 1500 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1979.5457 (pause 0.31) 1979.8596 1501 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1979.8596 that 1980.1381 1502 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1980.1381 (pause 0.12) 1980.2545 1503 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1980.2545 really 1980.8605 1504 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1980.8605 (pause 0.77) 1981.6258 1505 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1981.6258 aren't parallel to each other or anything else. 1983.5881 1506 DTA_int_09 1983.7442 Mm-hm. 1984.1330 1507 DTA_int_09 1984.1330 (pause 0.90) 1985.0298 1508 DTA_int_09 1985.0298 Uh, what are some of the streets of Detroit? Some of the big ones. Any that you can think of? 1989.3009 1509 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1990.2768 Uh, Woodward, Michigan Avenue, 1991.9759 1510 DTA_int_09 1992.1045 [Mm-hm.] 1992.4259 1511 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1992.3371 [Grand] River, 1993.0779 1512 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 1994.6576 [uh,] 1995.0751 1513 DTA_int_09 1994.7984 [How about] the one that goes to East Detroit? 1996.6901 1514 DTA_int_09 1996.8615 What's that? 1997.3230 1515 DTA_int_09 1997.3230 (pause 0.84) 1998.1657 1516 DTA_int_09 1998.1657 Begins with G-R. 1999.2263 1517 DTA_int_09 1999.2263 (pause 1.51) 2000.7341 1518 DTA_int_09 2000.7341 [Gra-] 2000.9939 1519 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2000.8932 [Gratiot.] 2001.3896 1520 DTA_int_09 2001.7595 Uh-huh. 2002.1281 1521 DTA_int_09 2002.1281 (pause 0.52) 2002.6472 1522 DTA_int_09 2002.6472 And, uh, how about the one that goes by the University of Detroit? 2005.5912 1523 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2006.2870 It's Livernois. 2007.1412 1524 DTA_int_09 2007.4779 Uh-huh. 2007.8881 1525 DTA_int_09 2007.8881 (pause 1.22) 2009.1064 1526 DTA_int_09 2009.1064 Uh, 2009.3951 1527 DTA_int_09 2009.3951 (pause 0.32) 2009.7126 1528 DTA_int_09 2009.7126 any down by, uh, Cobo Hall you can think of? 2012.3906 1529 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2013.5299 Larned, Jefferson, 2014.8462 1530 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2014.8462 (pause 1.96) 2016.8085 1531 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2016.8085 s- uh, 2018.1951 1532 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2018.1951 (pause 0.49) 2018.6882 1533 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2018.6882 2018.8626 1534 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2018.8626 (pause 0.67) 2019.5299 1535 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2019.5299 Washington Boulevard leads up there. 2021.5123 1536 DTA_int_09 2021.5290 Uh-huh. 2021.8902 1537 DTA_int_09 2021.8902 (pause 0.58) 2022.4748 1538 DTA_int_09 2022.4748 How about these, uh, big streets that- 2024.3818 1539 DTA_int_09 2024.3818 (pause 0.78) 2025.1657 1540 DTA_int_09 2025.1657 well, they're about three or four lanes and you can go fifty-five, sixty, no traffic lights [and.] 2030.3367 1541 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2029.9043 [Expressways.] 2030.8443 1542 DTA_int_09 2030.8259 [Anything] else you can call them? 2032.0667 1543 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2032.7788 Throughways, freeways. 2034.5218 1544 DTA_int_09 2034.7381 Mm-hm. 2035.0748 1545 DTA_int_09 2035.0748 (pause 0.67) 2035.7482 1546 DTA_int_09 2035.7482 And, uh, what are some of the expressways you can think of? 2037.9462 1547 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2038.4054 S- there's the John Lodge, 2040.6064 1548 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2040.6064 (pause 0.40) 2041.0105 1549 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2041.0105 Edsel Ford, 2042.0023 1550 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2042.0023 (pause 0.96) 2042.9636 1551 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2042.9636 and Southfield Expressway. 2044.9359 1552 DTA_int_09 2046.7411 Mm-hm. 2047.0967 1553 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2047.4421 And s- Davidson Expressway. 2049.3401 1554 DTA_int_09 2050.6074 Good. 2050.8186 1555 DTA_int_09 2050.8186 (pause 0.79) 2051.6053 1556 DTA_int_09 2051.6053 Where were you born? 2052.3251 1557 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2052.9947 Here in Detroit. 2053.6992 1558 DTA_int_09 2053.8951 In Detroit. Where else have you lived in Detroit? Any place else? 2056.7145 1559 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2057.7738 Uh, we used to live on the East Side. 2059.5431 1560 DTA_int_09 2060.6790 Uh, don't you live on the East Side now? (laughing) 2062.6918 1561 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2062.8094 No this is the West Side. 2063.9574 1562 DTA_int_09 2064.0983 Oh, I see. 2064.8360 1563 DTA_int_09 2064.8360 (pause 0.14) 2064.9738 1564 DTA_int_09 2064.9738 Okay. 2065.4411 1565 DTA_int_09 2065.4411 (pause 0.97) 2066.4155 1566 DTA_int_09 2066.4155 Uh, 2066.7647 1567 DTA_int_09 2066.7647 (pause 0.55) 2067.3156 1568 DTA_int_09 2067.3156 have you lived any place outside of Detroit? 2069.2473 1569 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2069.5994 No I haven't. 2070.3511 1570 DTA_int_09 2070.6952 How about trips? Where have you gone on trips? 2072.6152 1571 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2073.4871 Well we've been to Buffalo, Rochester, New York, Cleveland. 2077.8033 1572 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2077.8033 (pause 4.58) 2082.3799 1573 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2082.3799 And, uh, 2083.3166 1574 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2083.3166 (pause 0.46) 2083.7727 1575 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2083.7727 by myself, I've been 2085.4317 1576 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2085.4317 (pause 0.11) 2085.5391 1577 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2085.5391 to 2085.9064 1578 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2085.9064 (pause 0.96) 2086.8615 1579 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2086.8615 college campuses, if you could call those trips. 2089.7053 1580 DTA_int_09 2089.7038 [Uh-huh.] 2090.0665 1581 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2089.9410 [I've] been every 2090.7983 1582 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2090.9177 major college in Michigan. 2092.4635 1583 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2092.4635 (pause 0.39) 2092.8523 1584 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2092.8523 [Except] Northern [Michigan.] 2094.2896 1585 DTA_int_09 2092.9808 [Mm-hm.] 2093.2566 1586 DTA_int_09 2093.2566 (pause 0.89) 2094.1442 1587 DTA_int_09 2094.1442 [Which] college do you like the best? 2095.9104 1588 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2096.9299 I prefer Michigan State 2098.3135 1589 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2098.3135 (pause 0.30) 2098.6104 1590 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2098.6104 to all of 'em. 2099.3359 1591 DTA_int_09 2099.4647 Is that right. 2100.0861 1592 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2100.4932 Yeah, as far as- as visiting. I don't 2103.1656 1593 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2103.1656 (pause 0.55) 2103.7197 1594 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2103.7197 really think that I'd enjoy going there. 2105.8458 1595 DTA_int_09 2106.0554 Uh-huh. 2106.4411 1596 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2106.5513 To be going, 2107.6137 1597 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2107.6137 (pause 1.58) 2109.1932 1598 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2109.1932 uh, 2109.7074 1599 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2109.7074 (pause 2.80) 2112.5054 1600 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2112.5054 2112.5758 1601 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2112.5758 (pause 0.10) 2112.6799 1602 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2112.6799 I don't know. 2113.2339 1603 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2113.2339 (pause 1.48) 2114.7096 1604 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2114.7096 Wayne maybe, or- 2115.7350 1605 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2115.7350 (pause 0.11) 2115.8452 1606 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2115.8452 no not Wayne. 2116.7638 1607 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2116.7638 (pause 0.15) 2116.9165 1608 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2116.9165 I didn't mean to say that. 2118.1066 1609 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2118.1066 (pause 0.55) 2118.6554 1610 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2118.6554 Michigan 2119.2829 1611 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2119.2829 (pause 0.57) 2119.8523 1612 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2119.8523 probably 2120.4736 1613 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2120.4736 (pause 0.43) 2120.9076 1614 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2120.9076 [I'd enjoy] more. 2121.8452 1615 DTA_int_09 2120.9076 [Hm.] 2121.2428 1616 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2123.0941 And [/?/.] 2123.7800 1617 DTA_int_09 2123.3177 [Is, uh,] 2123.9331 1618 DTA_int_09 2124.5544 Wayne a pretty good school when you stay here? 2126.5473 1619 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2127.8176 Yeah, it's a good school. 2128.8088 1620 DTA_int_09 2129.8381 Mm-hm. 2130.1473 1621 DTA_int_09 2130.1473 (pause 1.27) 2131.4145 1622 DTA_int_09 2131.4145 Uh, how about 2132.0426 1623 DTA_int_09 2132.0426 (pause 0.20) 2132.2379 1624 DTA_int_09 2132.2379 some of the special holidays, the special occasions around here. Any that you 2136.0309 1625 DTA_int_09 2136.0309 (pause 0.22) 2136.2544 1626 DTA_int_09 2136.2544 celebrate? 2136.9104 1627 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2139.6010 Well not extensively except Christmas and- and that's just for my little brother's benefit. 2144.6024 1628 DTA_int_09 2144.6024 Uh-huh. What do you do on Christmas though? 2146.6410 1629 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2147.5318 Well there's the usual routine of getting a tree 2149.8522 1630 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2149.8522 (pause 0.84) 2150.6942 1631 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2150.6942 and setting it up and 2152.3013 1632 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2152.3013 (pause 1.48) 2153.7769 1633 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2153.7769 waiting for Santa Claus and all that sort of thing. 2156.3267 1634 DTA_int_09 2156.5900 Mm-hm. 2156.9452 1635 DTA_int_09 2156.9452 (pause 2.06) 2159.0084 1636 DTA_int_09 2159.0084 And, uh, 2159.6730 1637 DTA_int_09 2159.6730 (pause 1.88) 2161.5523 1638 DTA_int_09 2161.5523 how about any special foods that you cook for 2163.7237 1639 DTA_int_09 2163.7237 (pause 0.17) 2163.8972 1640 DTA_int_09 2163.8972 Christmas? 2164.4429 1641 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2166.9003 Ham or turkey I guess. Uh, 2168.6695 1642 DTA_int_09 2168.7708 Uh-huh. 2169.1089 1643 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2169.1687 big lavish dinner with 2170.5492 1644 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2170.5492 (pause 0.63) 2171.1767 1645 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2171.1767 everything under the sun. 2172.5360 1646 DTA_int_09 2175.4044 Good. 2175.6293 1647 DTA_int_09 2175.6293 (pause 0.68) 2176.3104 1648 DTA_int_09 2176.3104 How about that holiday around, um, 2178.2054 1649 DTA_int_09 2178.2054 (pause 1.79) 2179.9961 1650 DTA_int_09 2179.9961 let's see, October thirty first I guess it is. 2182.6563 1651 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2184.0738 Labor Day? 2184.7227 1652 DTA_int_09 2185.4727 This is October. 2186.4859 1653 DTA_int_09 2186.4859 (pause 0.62) 2187.1044 1654 DTA_int_09 2187.1044 October thirty first. 2188.2890 1655 DTA_int_09 2188.2890 (pause 0.72) 2189.0081 1656 DTA_int_09 2189.0081 We have ladies who ride on brooms. 2191.0363 1657 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2192.5165 Oh, Halloween? 2193.4656 1658 DTA_int_09 2193.6921 Yeah. 2194.1173 1659 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2194.5369 [] 2195.4736 1660 DTA_int_09 2194.5369 [ Well what happens] on Halloween? 2196.3615 1661 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2196.8237 2197.4246 1662 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2197.4246 (pause 0.36) 2197.7849 1663 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2197.7849 Oh, 2198.2740 1664 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2198.2740 (pause 0.64) 2198.9177 1665 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2198.9177 nothing much anymore. 2200.3563 1666 DTA_int_09 2200.5461 [It's all for your little brother?] 2202.0441 1667 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2200.6885 [] 2201.3079 1668 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2201.3079 (pause 0.29) 2201.6024 1669 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2201.6024 [A lot of] little kids come around 2203.6457 1670 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2204.7187 supposedly disguised and knock on your door. And 2207.7524 1671 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2207.7524 (pause 0.74) 2208.4901 1672 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2208.4901 you hand 'em candy or cookies or 2210.6297 1673 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2210.6297 (pause 0.50) 2211.1319 1674 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2211.1319 [give 'em a penny.] 2212.1144 1675 DTA_int_09 2211.1319 [What do they say when they knock] on the door? 2212.6978 1676 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2213.1124 Trick or treat. 2213.8830 1677 DTA_int_09 2214.0717 Anything else they would say? 2215.2186 1678 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2216.0634 Some of 'em don't even say that. 2217.4442 1679 DTA_int_09 2217.7717 [] 2218.4757 1680 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2217.9829 [] 2218.2553 1681 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2219.7714 They might say hello, uh, 2221.4114 1682 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2221.4114 (pause 0.45) 2221.8622 1683 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2221.8622 you know. 2222.2655 1684 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2222.2655 (pause 0.62) 2222.8809 1685 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2222.8809 Hi /RD-NAME-2/ or something like that if they happen to know me. 2225.8136 1686 DTA_int_09 2226.6952 Mm-hm. 2227.0841 1687 DTA_int_09 2227.0841 (pause 0.25) 2227.3319 1688 DTA_int_09 2227.3319 How about those things you carve out? 2229.0799 1689 DTA_int_09 2229.0799 (pause 0.10) 2229.1840 1690 DTA_int_09 2229.1840 Carve faces in 'em, put candles in 'em. What do you call that? 2232.0023 1691 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2233.7298 Pumpkins. 2234.5318 1692 DTA_int_09 2234.6726 Mm-hm. Anything else you can call them? 2236.0521 1693 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2237.0267 You can call them jack-o-lanterns, but nobody around here does. 2240.0542 1694 DTA_int_09 2240.2961 Mm-hm. 2240.7218 1695 DTA_int_09 2240.7218 (pause 0.87) 2241.5880 1696 DTA_int_09 2241.5880 How about the ladies that ride on the brooms? 2243.7902 1697 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2244.6033 Witches. 2245.3778 1698 DTA_int_09 2245.5890 Uh-huh. 2245.9039 1699 DTA_int_09 2245.9039 (pause 0.12) 2246.0236 1700 DTA_int_09 2246.0236 Can you tell me about your little brother's costume last year? 2248.6777 1701 DTA_int_09 2248.6777 (pause 0.16) 2248.8400 1702 DTA_int_09 2248.8400 Uh, didn't he even have a costume last year? 2251.1298 1703 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2252.0879 I don't even think he had- 2253.0432 1704 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2253.0432 (pause 0.40) 2253.4411 1705 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2253.4411 yeah, he must've had one but I can't- I can't 2255.8531 1706 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2255.8531 (pause 0.20) 2256.0493 1707 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2256.0493 even remember what it was. 2257.6288 1708 DTA_int_09 2257.7696 How about the night before Halloween, any special name you call that? 2261.1614 1709 DTA_int_09 2261.1614 (pause 0.75) 2261.9085 1710 DTA_int_09 2261.9085 Like when you ring doorbells, turn over 2263.8645 1711 DTA_int_09 2263.8645 (pause 0.25) 2264.1155 1712 DTA_int_09 2264.1155 garbage cans. 2265.0125 1713 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2265.1074 What is that, All Saints' Night? 2266.5216 1714 DTA_int_09 2267.2195 Uh-huh. 2267.5548 1715 DTA_int_09 2267.5548 (pause 0.26) 2267.8197 1716 DTA_int_09 2267.8197 [I- uh,] is that Halloween, or? 2269.1574 1717 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2267.8840 [/?/] 2268.1960 1718 DTA_int_09 2269.5828 This is kind of when they do mischief and stuff. 2271.7655 1719 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2271.7747 I guess that's the night. 2272.8706 1720 DTA_int_09 2273.3083 Uh-huh. 2273.6769 1721 DTA_int_09 2273.6769 (pause 2.65) 2276.3236 1722 DTA_int_09 2276.3236 Uh, 2276.7309 1723 DTA_int_09 2276.7309 (pause 0.96) 2277.6860 1724 DTA_int_09 2277.6860 how about the kids in the neighborhoods, do they ever have fights? 2280.4594 1725 DTA_int_09 2280.4594 (pause 1.11) 2281.5675 1726 DTA_int_09 2281.5675 What kinds of things would fights start about? 2283.5586 1727 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2285.9452 Well 2286.3952 1728 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2286.3952 (pause 0.55) 2286.9461 1729 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2286.9461 right now around here, fights will start about anything. 2289.9339 1730 DTA_int_09 2290.2009 Mm-hm. 2290.5492 1731 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2291.1124 Any little provocation could lead to a- 2293.6477 1732 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2293.6477 (pause 0.59) 2294.2348 1733 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2294.2348 a full-blown fight 2295.6440 1734 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2295.6440 (pause 0.75) 2296.3961 1735 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2296.3961 in a matter of minutes, so there's nothing specific that I could 2300.0236 1736 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2300.0236 (pause 0.62) 2300.6419 1737 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2300.6419 tell you a fight would start about. 2302.4589 1738 DTA_int_09 2302.7389 Uh-huh. Are there any rules for a fair fight? 2304.8824 1739 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2305.2828 No. 2305.6716 1740 DTA_int_09 2306.5440 Hm, anything goes. 2307.6492 1741 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2307.6645 Just win. 2308.3698 1742 DTA_int_09 2308.8185 2309.2134 1743 DTA_int_09 2309.2134 (pause 0.79) 2310.0003 1744 DTA_int_09 2310.0003 Uh, how about if you're in a fight and you don't wanna fight 2312.4064 1745 DTA_int_09 2312.4064 (pause 0.12) 2312.5289 1746 DTA_int_09 2312.5289 anymore, like you're losing. Is there anything you can say, like you could say, I wa- I don't wanna fight anymore? 2316.9890 1747 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2318.3419 Uh, 2318.9021 1748 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2318.9021 (pause 1.42) 2320.3196 1749 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2320.3196 maybe if it's just a 2321.9740 1750 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2321.9740 (pause 1.52) 2323.4910 1751 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2323.4910 one on one fight. 2324.6725 1752 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2324.6725 (pause 0.63) 2325.3064 1753 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2325.3064 You might be able- if you're losing, to- 2327.5411 1754 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2327.5411 (pause 0.25) 2327.7891 1755 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2327.7891 losing badly, I might add, 2329.4542 1756 DTA_int_09 2329.7910 [Mm-hm.] 2330.0507 1757 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2329.9807 [to] say that you don't wanna fight anymore and- 2332.2308 1758 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2332.4573 and, uh, 2333.0879 1759 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2333.0879 (pause 0.13) 2333.2195 1760 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2333.2195 be able to walk away. 2334.4380 1761 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2334.4380 (pause 0.68) 2335.1145 1762 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2335.1145 But usually the 2336.3542 1763 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2336.3542 (pause 0.17) 2336.5256 1764 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2336.5256 odds are 2337.3094 1765 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2337.3094 (pause 0.35) 2337.6614 1766 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2337.6614 against you when you're losing 2339.5195 1767 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2339.5195 (pause 0.30) 2339.8197 1768 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2339.8197 or 2340.1717 1769 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2340.1717 (pause 0.10) 2340.2727 1770 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2340.2727 the odds are stacked one way or the other. 2341.9286 1771 DTA_int_09 2342.3144 Uh-huh. 2342.6695 1772 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2342.8380 Usually anyway, so there's no way you can really beg out of a fight around here anymore. 2347.5246 1773 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2347.5246 (pause 0.67) 2348.1981 1774 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2348.1981 You just fight until 2349.3951 1775 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2349.3951 (pause 1.26) 2350.6563 1776 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2350.6563 worst comes to worst or you can get away. 2353.1849 1777 DTA_int_09 2354.0083 How about, 2354.4233 1778 DTA_int_09 2354.4233 (pause 0.24) 2354.6666 1779 DTA_int_09 2354.6666 uh, 2354.9758 1780 DTA_int_09 2354.9758 (pause 0.51) 2355.4900 1781 DTA_int_09 2355.4900 fights ever started with the dozens. Have you ever heard of that? 2357.9941 1782 DTA_int_09 2357.9941 (pause 0.13) 2358.1288 1783 DTA_int_09 2358.1288 The dozens? 2358.7746 1784 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2358.8665 No. 2359.1879 1785 DTA_int_09 2360.8839 Uh, 2361.5267 1786 DTA_int_09 2361.5267 (pause 1.29) 2362.8154 1787 DTA_int_09 2362.8154 how about 2363.2697 1788 DTA_int_09 2363.2697 (pause 0.37) 2363.6421 1789 DTA_int_09 2363.6421 there's nothing you can say if you were just wrestling, 2365.6501 1790 DTA_int_09 2365.6501 (pause 0.15) 2365.7971 1791 DTA_int_09 2365.7971 say in fun 2366.6788 1792 DTA_int_09 2366.6788 (pause 0.26) 2366.9390 1793 DTA_int_09 2366.9390 or in jest? 2367.7135 1794 DTA_int_09 2367.7135 (pause 0.52) 2368.2374 1795 DTA_int_09 2368.2374 And you didn't wanna fight anymore. 2369.6176 1796 DTA_int_09 2369.6176 (pause 1.18) 2370.7992 1797 DTA_int_09 2370.7992 Okay, now do you still wanna fight? Do you? 2372.8778 1798 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2374.6930 Well if you're- 2375.3511 1799 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2375.3511 (pause 0.18) 2375.5286 1800 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2375.5286 no. 2376.0737 1801 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2376.0737 (pause 0.27) 2376.3400 1802 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2376.3400 You can say I quit. 2377.2906 1803 DTA_int_09 2377.4971 Uh-huh. 2377.8124 1804 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2378.2809 But, uh, 2378.9035 1805 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2378.9035 (pause 0.60) 2379.4992 1806 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2379.4992 we didn't use that 2380.3838 1807 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2380.3838 (pause 0.43) 2380.8124 1808 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2380.8124 for instance, uh, 2381.9574 1809 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2381.9574 (pause 0.37) 2382.3278 1810 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2382.3278 holler uncle. 2383.1849 1811 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2383.1849 (pause 0.13) 2383.3104 1812 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2383.3104 We never used [that either.] 2384.6711 1813 DTA_int_09 2384.1799 [Uh-huh.] 2384.6022 1814 DTA_int_09 2384.9084 How about, I give? 2385.7135 1815 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2386.5920 Yeah. 2386.9930 1816 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2386.9930 (pause 0.41) 2387.4062 1817 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2387.4062 I had forgotten about that, [I give.] 2389.2308 1818 DTA_int_09 2388.6042 [Mm-hm.] 2388.9438 1819 DTA_int_09 2389.3348 2390.1338 1820 DTA_int_09 2390.1338 (pause 0.34) 2390.4738 1821 DTA_int_09 2390.4738 Okay, good. 2391.1962 1822 DTA_int_09 2391.1962 (pause 0.58) 2391.7777 1823 DTA_int_09 2391.7777 Did you ever see anybody get beat up real badly? 2394.1013 1824 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2395.4512 Yes I have. 2396.3603 1825 DTA_int_09 2396.8839 What happened to 'em? 2397.8161 1826 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2398.7940 Well it's whatever the fight started about, the- 2401.9103 1827 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2401.9103 (pause 1.10) 2403.0094 1828 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2403.0094 the person- the people involved were- 2405.2317 1829 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2405.2317 (pause 0.31) 2405.5409 1830 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2405.5409 had gotten to the point where they were 2407.2461 1831 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2407.2461 (pause 0.88) 2408.1276 1832 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2408.1276 just fighting, I mean, there wasn't any reason behind it anymore. 2411.4950 1833 DTA_int_09 2411.8380 Mm-hm. 2412.2084 1834 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2412.2972 And, uh, 2412.9032 1835 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2412.9032 (pause 1.09) 2413.9899 1836 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2413.9899 the loser was just 2415.3737 1837 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2415.3737 (pause 0.25) 2415.6277 1838 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2415.6277 taking a beating, getting kicked, and s- sliced, and 2419.0563 1839 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2419.0563 (pause 2.54) 2421.5941 1840 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2421.5941 beaten, so on and so forth. 2423.2761 1841 DTA_int_09 2423.6941 Uh-huh. 2424.0064 1842 DTA_int_09 2424.0064 (pause 0.10) 2424.1104 1843 DTA_int_09 2424.1104 Good. 2424.3818 1844 DTA_int_09 2424.3818 (pause 0.98) 2425.3593 1845 DTA_int_09 2425.3593 Uh, 2425.7664 1846 DTA_int_09 2425.7664 (pause 0.37) 2426.1338 1847 DTA_int_09 2426.1338 did you ever get into a fight with a guy bigger than you? You're pretty big yourself. 2429.6388 1848 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2430.5941 Well I- 2431.1665 1849 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2431.1665 (pause 1.11) 2432.2746 1850 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2432.2746 yeah, I've been in a couple of fights. 2433.9812 1851 DTA_int_09 2434.1603 What happened? 2435.0572 1852 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2436.1900 Well nothing really, 2437.2369 1853 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2437.2369 (pause 0.26) 2437.4940 1854 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2437.4940 uh, 2437.9011 1855 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2437.9011 (pause 0.95) 2438.8502 1856 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2438.8502 the only 2439.4288 1857 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2439.4288 (pause 0.10) 2439.5328 1858 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2439.5328 time that I can think of right now that- 2441.4245 1859 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2441.4245 (pause 0.19) 2441.6174 1860 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2441.6174 that I actually fought in a situation like that 2444.0497 1861 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2444.0497 (pause 0.59) 2444.6419 1862 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2444.6419 was when a fella tried to take my hat 2446.6098 1863 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2446.6098 (pause 0.31) 2446.9225 1864 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2446.9225 in grade school. He 2448.0553 1865 DTA_int_09 2448.4012 Mm-hm. 2448.7655 1866 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2448.8175 grabbed my hat and wasn't gonna give it back. 2450.7094 1867 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2450.7094 (pause 0.20) 2450.9097 1868 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2450.9097 And we had a fight 2451.9308 1869 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2451.9308 (pause 1.10) 2453.0266 1870 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2453.0266 that I guess you could call a draw, 2455.0532 1871 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2455.0532 (pause 0.56) 2455.6134 1872 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2455.6134 because I was 2456.6021 1873 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2456.6021 (pause 0.48) 2457.0859 1874 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2457.0859 trying to stay away from him more than I was trying to fight him. 2460.2003 1875 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2460.2003 (pause 0.80) 2461.0012 1876 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2461.0012 But I wasn't running and- and at- 2462.9972 1877 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2462.9972 (pause 0.33) 2463.3308 1878 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2463.3308 at this time I guess 2464.8827 1879 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2464.8827 (pause 0.58) 2465.4674 1880 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2465.4674 it had made him and his friends see that I wasn't afraid, but I just really didn't wanna fight, so I never had any more trouble out of him. 2471.8533 1881 DTA_int_09 2471.9512 Mm-hm. 2472.3461 1882 DTA_int_09 2472.3461 (pause 0.99) 2473.3379 1883 DTA_int_09 2473.3379 Uh, do the guys around here ever fight 2475.1992 1884 DTA_int_09 2475.1992 (pause 0.60) 2475.7991 1885 DTA_int_09 2475.7991 uh, 2476.1267 1886 DTA_int_09 2476.1267 (pause 0.15) 2476.2767 1887 DTA_int_09 2476.2767 in gangs or usually one against one? 2478.5175 1888 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2478.9889 Most of the time it's gangs. 2480.4888 1889 DTA_int_09 2480.8625 Uh-huh. 2481.2267 1890 DTA_int_09 2481.2267 (pause 0.20) 2481.4288 1891 DTA_int_09 2481.4288 Any rules for a gang fights? 2483.0193 1892 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2483.3572 Nah. 2483.7859 1893 DTA_int_09 2484.6032 Uh-huh. 2484.9950 1894 DTA_int_09 2484.9950 (pause 0.28) 2485.2705 1895 DTA_int_09 2485.2705 Any names of gangs around here? 2487.2206 1896 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2488.3960 Uh, no not- 2489.5500 1897 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2489.5500 (pause 0.31) 2489.8625 1898 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2489.8625 not names that they give themselves, uh, 2492.7431 1899 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2492.7431 (pause 1.25) 2493.9950 1900 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2493.9950 they have names as to the location. 2496.0021 1901 DTA_int_09 2496.3400 Uh-huh. 2496.6970 1902 DTA_int_09 2496.6970 (pause 1.85) 2498.5502 1903 DTA_int_09 2498.5502 How big are these gangs? 2499.7493 1904 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2500.4174 2500.6287 1905 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2500.6287 (pause 1.30) 2501.9237 1906 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2501.9237 Oh anywhere from ten to f- 2503.5123 1907 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2503.5123 (pause 0.34) 2503.8552 1908 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2503.8552 seventy, I guess. 2505.1453 1909 DTA_int_09 2505.4379 Mm-hm. 2505.8359 1910 DTA_int_09 2505.8359 (pause 1.04) 2506.8735 1911 DTA_int_09 2506.8735 Have you ever been in the hospital? 2508.1532 1912 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2509.0042 No I haven't. 2509.5399 1913 DTA_int_09 2510.3908 Uh, what's the worst illness you ever had? 2512.4284 1914 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2514.5451 Three day flu. 2515.3226 1915 DTA_int_09 2516.9175 It sound like you got off pretty lucky. 2519.5347 1916 DTA_int_09 2519.5347 (pause 0.54) 2520.0706 1917 DTA_int_09 2520.0706 What's a three day flu like? 2521.5062 1918 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2523.1594 Well I 2523.9460 1919 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2523.9460 (pause 1.37) 2525.3113 1920 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2525.3113 can't- 2525.6298 1921 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2525.6298 (pause 0.13) 2525.7614 1922 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2525.7614 it's uh, you're dizzy 2527.2124 1923 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2527.2124 (pause 0.13) 2527.3409 1924 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2527.3409 you're stomach hurts, and y- you don't wanna get up and you can't move. 2531.6480 1925 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2531.6480 (pause 0.60) 2532.2451 1926 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2532.2451 Your eyes hurt. 2533.0839 1927 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2533.0839 (pause 1.17) 2534.2562 1928 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2534.2562 And you're just in general bad shape. 2536.1079 1929 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2536.1079 (pause 1.22) 2537.3266 1930 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2537.3266 Feel terrible. 2538.3124 1931 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2538.3124 (pause 0.25) 2538.5634 1932 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2538.5634 Head is stopped up. 2539.5399 1933 DTA_int_09 2539.8399 Uh-huh. 2540.1551 1934 DTA_int_09 2540.1551 (pause 1.50) 2541.6522 1935 DTA_int_09 2541.6522 Uh, when a person starts to sneeze or cough you might say, uh, get away from me I don't wanna 2546.0419 1936 DTA_int_09 2546.0419 (pause 0.21) 2546.2531 1937 DTA_int_09 2546.2531 what 2546.6329 1938 DTA_int_09 2546.6329 (pause 0.15) 2546.7829 1939 DTA_int_09 2546.7829 a cold? 2547.0706 1940 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2548.5613 Catch a cold. 2549.2745 1941 DTA_int_09 2549.4429 Uh-huh. 2549.7278 1942 DTA_int_09 2549.7278 (pause 0.15) 2549.8777 1943 DTA_int_09 2549.8777 Good. 2550.1226 1944 DTA_int_09 2550.1226 (pause 0.65) 2550.7716 1945 DTA_int_09 2550.7716 Have you ever been in an automobile accident? 2552.6696 1946 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2554.7756 Yes, once. 2556.0643 1947 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2556.0643 (pause 0.15) 2556.2144 1948 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2556.2144 Or, 2556.6426 1949 DTA_int_09 2556.7960 What [happened?] 2557.2842 1950 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2557.1297 [yeah once.] 2557.8031 1951 DTA_int_09 2557.6439 [Really?] 2557.9415 1952 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2559.3828 Well we were coming back from skating one night, 2561.6788 1953 DTA_int_09 2562.2451 Mm-hm. 2562.6552 1954 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2562.8083 in Belleville is about thirty miles from Detroit. 2565.5634 1955 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2565.5634 (pause 0.62) 2566.1848 1956 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2566.1848 And, uh, 2567.0235 1957 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2567.0235 (pause 0.17) 2567.1980 1958 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2567.1980 the fellow behind us- the people behind us, 2569.3531 1959 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2569.3531 (pause 1.15) 2570.5041 1960 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2570.5041 either had some 2571.6027 1961 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2571.6027 (pause 1.84) 2573.4429 1962 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2573.4429 uh, complaint or 2574.6858 1963 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2574.6858 (pause 0.31) 2574.9981 1964 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2574.9981 they were mad about something or had been drinking or something, but 2578.2964 1965 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2578.2964 (pause 0.72) 2579.0143 1966 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2579.0143 they were driving pretty recklessly. 2581.0127 1967 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2581.0127 (pause 0.30) 2581.3164 1968 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2581.3164 And there's a- 2582.1191 1969 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2582.1191 (pause 0.37) 2582.4918 1970 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2582.4918 a ninety degree 2583.5450 1971 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2583.5450 (pause 0.41) 2583.9583 1972 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2583.9583 turn 2584.4603 1973 DTA_int_09 2584.7603 Mm-hm. 2585.1506 1974 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2585.1674 that brings you back to 2586.3124 1975 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2586.3124 (pause 0.41) 2586.7226 1976 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2586.7226 the road back to Detroit. 2588.1216 1977 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2588.1216 (pause 0.64) 2588.7583 1978 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2588.7583 And as we neared the turn, 2590.4909 1979 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2590.4909 (pause 0.32) 2590.8153 1980 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2590.8153 we were forced off by these 2592.5144 1981 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2592.5144 (pause 0.13) 2592.6430 1982 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2592.6430 people. 2593.0776 1983 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2593.0776 (pause 0.63) 2593.7113 1984 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2593.7113 We ran into a ditch and 2595.3644 1985 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2595.3644 (pause 0.44) 2595.8052 1986 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2595.8052 into a corn field and 2597.2840 1987 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2597.2840 (pause 0.85) 2598.1348 1988 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2598.1348 tore up the car. 2599.1480 1989 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2599.1480 (pause 1.08) 2600.2286 1990 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2600.2286 A few people got bumped heads. 2601.9368 1991 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2601.9368 (pause 0.78) 2602.7205 1992 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2602.7205 But, uh, 2603.2959 1993 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2603.2959 (pause 0.23) 2603.5255 1994 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2603.5255 we got the car started again and got it pushed out of the ditch. 2606.9757 1995 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2606.9757 (pause 0.88) 2607.8511 1996 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2607.8511 And tied the muffler back up and 2609.8318 1997 DTA_int_09 2610.0644 [] 2610.2665 1998 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2610.3797 tied the seat back up. 2611.6929 1999 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2611.6929 (pause 1.22) 2612.9114 2000 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2612.9114 And came home. 2613.7593 2001 DTA_int_09 2614.2674 How about the car- the other car. What happened to that? 2616.7195 2002 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2616.8603 They kept going. 2617.6317 2003 DTA_int_09 2618.2225 Is that right? 2618.6971 2004 DTA_int_09 2618.6971 (pause 0.76) 2619.4593 2005 DTA_int_09 2619.4593 Hm. 2619.6583 2006 DTA_int_09 2619.6583 (pause 1.07) 2620.7266 2007 DTA_int_09 2620.7266 Uh, 2621.1000 2008 DTA_int_09 2621.1000 (pause 0.73) 2621.8349 2009 DTA_int_09 2621.8349 were you ever in a situation where thought that you, uh, might die or be killed. 2626.0420 2010 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2632.5337 Hm, 2633.1398 2011 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2633.1398 (pause 0.82) 2633.9604 2012 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2633.9604 2634.1440 2013 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2634.1440 (pause 1.16) 2635.3011 2014 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2635.3011 not really. I- I don't- 2636.7675 2015 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2636.7675 (pause 0.22) 2636.9848 2016 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2636.9848 I can't recall the 2638.1603 2017 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2638.1603 (pause 1.77) 2639.9267 2018 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2639.9267 sensat- the- the feeling that I was gonna die 2642.7308 2019 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2642.7308 (pause 0.11) 2642.8440 2020 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2642.8440 present, 2643.3491 2021 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2643.3491 (pause 0.44) 2643.7868 2022 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2643.7868 but 2644.0072 2023 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2644.0072 (pause 0.52) 2644.5245 2024 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2644.5245 I've been in some situations that looked pretty bleak, 2647.2827 2025 DTA_int_09 2647.7878 Mm-hm. 2648.1949 2026 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2648.3816 as to getting hurt 2649.4918 2027 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2649.4918 (pause 1.00) 2650.4909 2028 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2650.4909 but not- not 2651.3051 2029 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2651.3051 (pause 0.17) 2651.4792 2030 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2651.4792 seriously enough to die. 2652.9215 2031 DTA_int_09 2653.1878 Uh-huh. 2653.5184 2032 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2653.5245 I guess it's- it's more of a- 2655.2603 2033 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2655.2603 (pause 0.76) 2656.0195 2034 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2656.0195 a survival thing. 2657.3357 2035 DTA_int_09 2657.7261 [Uh-huh.] 2658.1195 2036 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2657.7614 [You-] you don't wanna 2658.8890 2037 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2659.3960 think that you'll get killed 2660.8961 2038 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2660.8961 (pause 0.75) 2661.6463 2039 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2661.6463 until it's really really bad. And I guess a lot of people won't even admit it to themselves then. 2666.6038 2040 DTA_int_09 2667.1960 Mm-hm. 2667.5634 2041 DTA_int_09 2667.5634 (pause 0.69) 2668.2521 2042 DTA_int_09 2668.2521 How about, uh, 2669.1417 2043 DTA_int_09 2669.1417 (pause 0.37) 2669.5104 2044 DTA_int_09 2669.5104 some people there's a saying, uh, whatever is going to happen, is going to happen. Uh, 2673.0399 2045 DTA_int_09 2673.0399 (pause 0.54) 2673.5817 2046 DTA_int_09 2673.5817 what do you think that? It- 2675.0101 2047 DTA_int_09 2675.0101 (pause 0.13) 2675.1428 2048 DTA_int_09 2675.1428 I guess it's kind of a philosophy, I don't know. 2677.2171 2049 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2677.9898 2678.0939 2050 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2678.0939 (pause 0.41) 2678.5071 2051 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2678.5071 I used to- 2679.3215 2052 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2679.3215 (pause 0.23) 2679.5511 2053 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2679.5511 to doubt it but, uh, 2681.0937 2054 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2681.0937 (pause 1.24) 2682.3368 2055 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2682.3368 it seems like it's- it's quite possible that it would- 2685.0032 2056 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2685.0032 (pause 0.20) 2685.2020 2057 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2685.2020 it would be true 2685.9778 2058 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2685.9778 (pause 0.12) 2686.0929 2059 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2686.0929 after all. 2686.7968 2060 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2686.7968 (pause 1.04) 2687.8379 2061 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2687.8379 But I really- 2688.6071 2062 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2688.6071 (pause 0.49) 2689.0929 2063 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2689.0929 I haven't formed a 2690.1857 2064 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2690.1857 (pause 0.53) 2690.7185 2065 DTA_se3_ag2_m_01 2690.7185 opinion about it one way or the other. 2692.5857 2066 DTA_int_09 2693.1153 Mm-hm. 2693.4581 2067 DTA_int_09 2693.4581 (pause 1.00) 2694.4570 2068 DTA_int_09 2694.4570 Okay, good. 2695.0111