Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_04 0.2515 Ah. 0.5322 2 DTA_int_04 0.5322 (pause 0.09) 0.6215 3 DTA_int_04 0.6215 Well then. 1.0914 4 DTA_int_04 1.0914 (pause 0.20) 1.2866 5 DTA_int_04 1.2866 Can you remember some of the that games you used to play with the kids when you were young? 5.7445 6 DTA_int_04 5.7445 (pause 1.10) 6.8462 7 DTA_int_04 6.8462 With your friends in grade school. 8.6097 8 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 9.0716 Uh, in grade school? Or- uh, 10.8473 9 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 10.8473 (pause 0.38) 11.2317 10 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 11.2317 or, uh, outside? You mean both in school and out of [school?] 14.5427 11 DTA_int_04 14.2742 [Outside] of school. After school got out. 16.3429 12 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 16.6419 Well, one of the ones I had a lot of fun with was a game called Pum Pum Pull Away, I remember that. 20.6420 13 DTA_int_04 20.7015 How do you play that? 21.5192 14 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 22.6420 Uh, let's see. 23.9356 15 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 23.9356 (pause 0.81) 24.7472 16 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 24.7472 It's one of these games that was played, uh, 26.5837 17 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 26.5837 (pause 0.56) 27.1425 18 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 27.1425 uh, where kids would line up on one side of a yard 30.2856 19 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 30.2856 (pause 0.57) 30.8592 20 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 30.8592 or 31.1948 21 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 31.1948 (pause 0.17) 31.3657 22 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 31.3657 street. 32.5819 23 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 32.5819 (pause 0.42) 33.0030 24 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 33.0030 And uh, 33.8451 25 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 33.8451 (pause 1.51) 35.3584 26 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 35.3584 uh, 36.0297 27 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 36.0297 (pause 0.70) 36.7314 28 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 36.7314 a 36.9450 29 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 36.9450 (pause 0.89) 37.8336 30 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 37.8336 youngster in the center would say, pum pum pull away, get your horse and run away. 41.3545 31 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 41.3545 (pause 0.40) 41.7573 32 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 41.7573 And when he says that, 42.6177 33 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 42.6177 (pause 0.25) 42.8705 34 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 42.8705 then everyone would have to run over to the other side. 44.7139 35 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 44.7139 (pause 0.44) 45.1533 36 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 45.1533 And 45.5804 37 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 45.5804 (pause 0.10) 45.6780 38 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 45.6780 this kid would tag 46.9368 39 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 46.9368 (pause 0.18) 47.1199 40 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 47.1199 someone. 47.5532 41 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 47.5532 (pause 0.38) 47.9376 42 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 47.9376 And when he tags him, then, uh, that person would have to stay in the center of the street. 51.6288 43 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 51.6288 (pause 0.39) 52.0193 44 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 52.0193 And 52.3830 45 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 52.3830 (pause 0.12) 52.5051 46 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 52.5051 you can see this, uh, as you went on, more and more would get into the center of the street and it'd become 57.0301 47 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 57.0301 (pause 0.25) 57.2758 48 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 57.2758 more and more difficult for those, uh, 58.9433 49 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 58.9433 (pause 0.10) 59.0470 50 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 59.0470 on the other side to get across, and so. 60.8960 51 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 60.8960 (pause 0.32) 61.2194 52 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 61.2194 This was one of them and 62.2384 53 DTA_int_04 62.5599 [Mm-hm.] 62.8285 54 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 62.7388 [you] usually wound up with one person who uh, was last and who won, [you know. (laughing)] 66.9115 55 DTA_int_04 65.5994 [/Yeah/] 66.1334 56 DTA_int_04 66.1334 (pause 0.31) 66.4476 57 DTA_int_04 66.4476 [] 66.9052 58 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 67.0698 Uh. 67.3526 59 DTA_int_04 67.5645 Yeah. And what were the- 68.5437 60 DTA_int_04 68.5437 (pause 0.11) 68.6500 61 DTA_int_04 68.6500 what were some of the other games? 69.6095 62 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 70.7079 Um. 71.7941 63 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 71.7941 (pause 2.73) 74.5276 64 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 74.5276 /Mask/. 75.6626 65 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 75.6626 (pause 2.03) 77.6935 66 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 77.6935 That one, I remember cause I enjoy it so much. 80.1404 67 DTA_int_04 80.3635 Did you ever play one where kids go and hide and one goes looking for ['em?] 83.8024 68 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 83.6154 [Oh.] Hide and seek, yes. 84.8404 69 DTA_int_04 85.0830 Mm-hm. 85.3486 70 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 85.4384 Yeah. We used to play that. 86.3537 71 DTA_int_04 86.7777 How did you get the person who was it 88.1830 72 DTA_int_04 88.1830 (pause 1.44) 89.6214 73 DTA_int_04 89.6214 first time? 90.1767 74 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 90.7381 Um. 91.4337 75 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 91.4337 (pause 1.21) 92.6410 76 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 92.6410 92.7278 77 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 92.7278 (pause 0.95) 93.6825 78 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 93.6825 How did we do that? 94.8114 79 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 94.8114 (pause 0.38) 95.1898 80 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 95.1898 It seems to me that uh, t- we s- 97.1361 81 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 97.1361 (pause 0.15) 97.2825 82 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 97.2825 w- it's 97.6182 83 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 97.6182 (pause 0.56) 98.1734 84 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 98.1734 ti- 98.3565 85 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 98.3565 (pause 0.31) 98.6677 86 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 98.6677 I don't know whether we wanted to be it the first time or not. 101.8694 87 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 101.8694 (pause 0.21) 102.0830 88 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 102.0830 And because it se- it seems that I can remember, I'm it, I'm it, No, I'm it. And this sort of thing, but [the.] 106.8678 89 DTA_int_04 106.6908 [Well], how would get to /unintelligible/? 108.3689 90 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 108.5703 I've forgotten. 109.2354 91 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 109.2354 (pause 0.20) 109.4307 92 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 109.4307 I'm sorry, I wish I could tell you, but I've forgotten. 111.6547 93 DTA_int_04 112.0089 Mm-hm. 112.3445 94 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 112.3994 I mean, we might've pulled straws, you know how you, uh 115.0538 95 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 115.0538 (pause 0.20) 115.2491 96 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 115.2491 ki- 115.6640 97 DTA_int_04 115.9142 Um. Did they ever say any rhymes when they didn't get /??/? 118.3998 98 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 119.7788 Yes, but 120.5490 99 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 120.5490 (pause 0.33) 120.8771 100 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 120.8771 tryna- we had 121.8999 101 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 121.8999 (pause 0.54) 122.4369 102 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 122.4369 many of 'em, but I can't remember. 124.3601 103 DTA_int_04 124.5907 [/?/] 124.8999 104 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 124.7750 [Uh], you mean during the it, uh 126.5124 105 DTA_int_04 126.5124 Yeah, [/during it, maybe/.] 127.4195 106 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 126.7626 thing? 127.1105 107 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 128.0325 Um. 128.6672 108 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 128.6672 (pause 0.77) 129.4378 109 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 129.4378 Um. 130.0894 110 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 130.0894 (pause 2.75) 132.8416 111 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 132.8416 I got up to let them in, I'm trying to think, uh, 135.3824 112 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 135.3824 (pause 1.29) 136.6700 113 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 136.6700 of how it went o- went on (laughing) it was this uh. 139.3497 114 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 139.3497 (pause 0.45) 139.8012 115 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 139.8012 Hit 'em on the head with a rolling pin. Uh, 141.7385 116 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 141.7385 (pause 1.17) 142.9040 117 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 142.9040 I can remember that part of it, but I can't remember any of- 145.2315 118 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 145.2315 (pause 0.18) 145.4146 119 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 145.4146 the beginning of it. 146.3068 120 DTA_int_04 147.2086 Did you ever play marbles? 148.1972 121 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 148.6426 Yes. 149.0454 122 DTA_int_04 149.4359 Um. Did you ever have any names for them? Or how did you play [marbles?] 152.3952 123 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 152.2830 [Well,] we had our, uh, 153.7231 124 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 154.7481 we had names. 155.5517 125 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 155.5517 (pause 0.55) 156.1029 126 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 156.1029 We had boulders, 157.0731 127 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 157.0731 (pause 1.45) 158.5193 128 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 158.5193 We had uh, 159.4026 129 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 159.4026 (pause 0.29) 159.6881 130 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 159.6881 your regular marbles. 160.8636 131 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 160.8636 (pause 0.74) 161.6075 132 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 161.6075 What else did we have? 162.6319 133 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 162.6319 (pause 0.70) 163.3358 134 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 163.3358 We had several expressions 165.1073 135 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 165.1073 (pause 1.51) 166.6148 136 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 166.6148 we had an expression, hunching, I guess it was called. 168.9937 137 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 168.9937 (pause 0.11) 169.0999 138 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 169.0999 [Hunches, or something] like 170.1893 139 DTA_int_04 169.1466 [How did you do that?] 169.9606 140 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 170.8933 Um. 171.5109 141 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 171.5109 (pause 0.35) 171.8563 142 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 171.8563 If you push the marble 173.0797 143 DTA_int_04 173.4493 [Mm-hm} 173.6950 144 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 173.5579 [when] you shot it, we called that hunching I guess. 175.4672 145 DTA_int_04 175.6996 Uh-huh. 175.9188 146 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 175.9188 Which is just a [expression.] I- I don't know what it is now. 179.0080 147 DTA_int_04 176.7301 [Okay.] 177.0688 148 DTA_int_04 179.2737 Any more? Anything else you can say about that? 181.3059 149 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 181.9103 Uh. About marbles? 183.2613 150 DTA_int_04 183.2854 Yeah. 183.5976 151 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 185.0188 Gee. I- I- I can't uh, recall. No. Other than 188.2761 152 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 188.2761 (pause 0.27) 188.5484 153 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 188.5484 we had the boulders, we had 190.0228 154 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 190.0228 (pause 1.20) 191.2237 155 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 191.2237 let's see. Agates too was another name that we called 'em. 193.8470 156 DTA_int_04 194.0928 Mm-hm. 194.3319 157 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 194.4714 And then we had s- 195.2550 158 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 195.2550 (pause 0.30) 195.5539 159 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 195.5539 195.6934 160 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 195.6934 (pause 0.95) 196.6431 161 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 196.6431 I just 197.0415 162 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 197.0415 (pause 0.35) 197.3953 163 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 197.3953 k- 197.6809 164 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 197.6809 (pause 0.33) 198.0063 165 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 198.0063 uh, all these terms are (laughing) in the back [of my mind], but they [can't /?/.] 201.2936 166 DTA_int_04 200.1404 [/??/] 200.6861 167 DTA_int_04 200.6861 (pause 0.18) 200.8694 168 DTA_int_04 200.8694 [What about the] one that you used to shoot with? Would you ever call it anything? 203.9461 169 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 204.9270 What did we call that? 206.2460 170 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 206.2460 (pause 2.29) 208.5359 171 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 208.5359 That wasn't the boulder. 209.6892 172 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 209.6892 (pause 0.82) 210.5055 173 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 210.5055 The boulders were big ones. 211.8046 174 DTA_int_04 211.8311 Uh-huh. 212.0830 175 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 213.1898 Um. 213.7731 176 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 213.7731 (pause 1.07) 214.8468 177 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 214.8468 I can't recall. There was a special name, but I can't recall. 217.2468 178 DTA_int_04 217.5332 Mm-hm. 217.8801 179 DTA_int_04 217.8801 (pause 0.81) 218.6917 180 DTA_int_04 218.6917 Uh. Any other games that you played, like that? 220.3554 181 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 221.9711 Like marbles? Um. 223.3232 182 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 223.3232 (pause 0.68) 224.0058 183 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 224.0058 224.0721 184 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 224.0721 (pause 0.22) 224.2909 185 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 224.2909 We had this game, Duck on the Rock, 226.1086 186 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 226.1086 (pause 0.14) 226.2458 187 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 226.2458 which was with tin cans in the alley. 228.4132 188 DTA_int_04 228.7338 Uh-huh, how'd you [play that?] 229.6991 189 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 229.2284 You- 229.4272 190 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 229.7918 Uh. I'm tryna- 230.5209 191 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 230.5209 (pause 0.36) 230.8788 192 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 230.8788 We put uh. 232.0321 193 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 232.0321 (pause 1.29) 233.3240 194 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 233.3240 We'd 233.6024 195 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 233.6024 (pause 0.21) 233.8144 196 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 233.8144 put a brick in the center of the alley 235.4383 197 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 235.4383 (pause 0.52) 235.9553 198 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 235.9553 and um, 236.9826 199 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 236.9826 (pause 1.05) 238.0365 200 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 238.0365 one kid, I guess who was it again 239.9396 201 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 239.9396 (pause 0.40) 240.3373 202 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 240.3373 would put his can 241.3911 203 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 241.3911 (pause 0.14) 241.5303 204 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 241.5303 on the, uh, 242.1960 205 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 242.1960 (pause 1.02) 243.2167 206 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 243.2167 stone 243.8464 207 DTA_int_04 244.1844 Mm-hm. 244.4561 208 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 244.5158 brick. 244.9068 209 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 244.9068 (pause 0.91) 245.8215 210 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 245.8215 Then- uh, 246.8488 211 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 246.8488 (pause 3.52) 250.3670 212 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 250.3670 Oh. 250.6321 213 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 250.6321 (pause 0.15) 250.7779 214 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 250.7779 Everyone 251.4009 215 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 251.4009 (pause 2.20) 253.6014 216 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 253.6014 I'm tryna think of how it started. 255.2583 217 DTA_int_04 255.2185 Yeah. 255.4836 218 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 255.5433 It didn't start that way. 256.6377 219 DTA_int_04 256.7643 Mm-hm. 256.9994 220 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 257.2077 Um, 257.6982 221 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 257.6982 (pause 0.27) 257.9633 222 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 257.9633 258.0429 223 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 258.0429 (pause 0.23) 258.2749 224 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 258.2749 oh, we had- we drew a line, 259.8017 225 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 259.8017 (pause 0.26) 260.0602 226 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 260.0602 a chalk line or some kind of line and then we stood back, and everyone had to throw their cans towards this line 264.5187 227 DTA_int_04 264.5787 Mm-hm. 264.8660 228 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 265.2061 Now, the one who was, uh, 266.8365 229 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 266.8365 (pause 0.49) 267.3270 230 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 267.3270 farthest away from the line, I think it was the one that was farthest way, 270.0327 231 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 270.0327 (pause 0.28) 270.3110 232 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 270.3110 would be the one whose can had to go on the rock. 273.1142 233 DTA_int_04 273.3660 Mm-hm. 273.7372 234 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 273.9228 You understand? 274.4795 235 DTA_int_04 274.4795 Yeah. 274.7712 236 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 274.8573 Alright. The rest of 'em- 275.7985 237 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 275.7985 (pause 0.54) 276.3354 238 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 276.3354 uh, 276.7733 239 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 276.7733 (pause 2.20) 278.9738 240 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 278.9738 No. 279.3184 241 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 279.3184 (pause 0.42) 279.7426 242 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 279.7426 No, it wasn't a line. It was a rock in the center of the, uh, alley, 282.6080 243 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 282.6080 (pause 0.21) 282.8201 244 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 282.8201 and everyone had to throw their cans t- toward this, uh, rock. 285.9286 245 DTA_int_04 286.1010 Uh-huh. 286.3130 246 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 286.3130 Alright. 286.5914 247 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 286.9222 The can that was uh 288.2105 248 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 288.2105 (pause 0.09) 288.2967 249 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 288.2967 I guess the farthest away from the rock 290.5834 250 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 290.5834 (pause 0.38) 290.9611 251 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 290.9611 was the one that was it. 292.0660 252 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 292.0660 (pause 0.68) 292.7475 253 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 292.7475 Then he had to come and put his can on the rock, then everyone stood over the can 296.1676 254 DTA_int_04 296.4643 Mm-hm. 296.7755 255 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 296.9586 Alright. 297.2332 256 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 297.2332 (pause 0.28) 297.5139 257 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 297.5139 Now, you had to 298.5207 258 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 298.5207 (pause 0.15) 298.6672 259 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 298.6672 lean over and pick up your can and throw it and knock this fellow's uh, 301.4367 260 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 301.4367 (pause 0.07) 301.5038 261 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 301.5038 can off the rock without him, uh, seeing you pick up your can. 304.5304 262 DTA_int_04 305.1015 Any- 305.3455 263 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 305.3455 I. 305.5530 264 DTA_int_04 305.9680 Yeah. 306.1937 265 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 306.3402 [ I-] and. 307.0114 266 DTA_int_04 306.3402 [/Go ahead/.] 306.6874 267 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 308.2013 If he s- 309.0373 268 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 309.0373 (pause 0.60) 309.6409 269 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 309.6409 If he saw you, I- I- 311.9475 270 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 311.9475 (pause 0.67) 312.6128 271 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 312.6128 I don't know whether he chased you, 314.0834 272 DTA_int_04 314.8476 Or he hit [you?] 315.4334 273 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 315.1405 [or not.] Or hit you. 316.4542 274 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 317.1011 Or- or- or, try to reach you, or what it was. But you tried to knock his can off of the uh, rock, and what the objective was, I've forgotten now. 324.1604 275 DTA_int_04 324.1193 Mm-hm. 324.3936 276 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 324.5815 But, we used to have a lot of fun [playing.] 325.9120 277 DTA_int_04 325.8396 [Yeah.] I can imagine, that was [a lot of fun.] 327.6765 278 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 327.0783 [Yeah.] 327.4627 279 DTA_int_04 327.9936 That would be sort of in an alley way, you could do that. 329.9829 280 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 330.0684 That's right, yeah. 330.8616 281 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 330.8616 (pause 0.29) 331.1484 282 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 331.1484 Uh, you try and knock his can off, and if you uh, 334.0351 283 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 334.0351 (pause 0.99) 335.0237 284 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 335.0237 if you knocked it off, then he'd have to run, 337.7265 285 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 337.7265 (pause 0.21) 337.9369 286 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 337.9369 and get it and put it back in. In the mean time, 340.1906 287 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 340.1906 (pause 0.51) 340.6971 288 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 340.6971 could put it back on, 341.8748 289 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 341.8748 (pause 0.49) 342.3691 290 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 342.3691 before he could uh, 343.4269 291 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 343.4269 (pause 0.86) 344.2857 292 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 344.2857 tag you. 344.8715 293 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 344.8715 (pause 0.31) 345.1827 294 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 345.1827 He couldn't tag anyone with his can off the rock, that was a way- that was part of it, yeah. 349.2105 295 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 349.2105 (pause 0.41) 349.6254 296 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 349.6254 And I- I can't remember all the 351.1649 297 DTA_int_04 351.4005 [Pretty-] 351.6569 298 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 351.5067 [particulars], but we had a lot of fun. 353.3922 299 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 354.2352 Um. 354.7905 300 DTA_int_04 355.1322 [Yeah.] 355.4427 301 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 355.2420 355.3152 302 DTA_int_04 356.2001 Any other games that you can remember [RD-NAME-2]? 358.3330 303 DTA_int_04 358.3330 (pause 0.25) 358.5832 304 DTA_int_04 358.5832 /??/ 359.0104 305 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 359.0296 Uh. What are some of the other games? We used to have so many of 'em. 362.8391 306 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 362.8391 (pause 1.23) 364.0659 307 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 364.0659 Uh. Some of 'em, our parents didn't call- re- you know, they didn't care for. [They didn't know about.] 368.8168 308 DTA_int_04 367.6133 [Yeah.] 367.8757 309 DTA_int_04 367.8757 (pause 0.51) 368.3883 310 DTA_int_04 368.3883 [I'm sure.] 368.8168 311 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 368.9450 Yeah. 369.1586 312 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 369.1586 (pause 0.80) 369.9579 313 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 369.9579 Uh. 370.4217 314 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 370.4217 (pause 1.54) 371.9648 315 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 371.9648 No, uh. 373.2341 316 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 373.2341 (pause 1.47) 374.7047 317 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 374.7047 We spent a lot of our time 375.9173 318 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 375.9173 (pause 0.11) 376.0272 319 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 376.0272 uh, with a lot of little hobbies too, cause- well I guess you're asking only in games right now though. 380.2721 320 DTA_int_04 380.2721 Yeah. 380.5528 321 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 380.9739 You know. 381.2453 322 DTA_int_04 381.2426 Well, what were some of the hobbies your friends and you would do? 383.6102 323 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 384.3152 Mm. 384.7118 324 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 384.7118 (pause 0.72) 385.4318 325 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 385.4318 Used to make a lot of model airplanes. 387.3249 326 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 387.3249 (pause 0.12) 387.4409 327 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 387.4409 Used to fly and make 'em and fly 'em and break 'em. We went though a stage where we were just 391.3571 328 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 391.3571 (pause 0.40) 391.7584 329 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 391.7584 model airplane crazy. 393.0197 330 DTA_int_04 393.2638 Mm-hm. 393.5201 331 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 393.5201 Or- 394.0144 332 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 394.6980 Um. 395.1984 333 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 395.1984 (pause 0.54) 395.7354 334 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 395.7354 395.8086 335 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 395.8086 (pause 0.83) 396.6385 336 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 396.6385 Underground bunks. 398.0381 337 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 398.0381 (pause 0.37) 398.4068 338 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 398.4068 We dug a hole in the ground one time [six (laughing)] feet deep and 402.1151 339 DTA_int_04 400.8031 [Really?] 400.9862 340 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 402.7192 I guess six feet wide and- 404.2765 341 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 404.2765 (pause 0.38) 404.6549 342 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 404.6549 and then pu- it was in a field. 406.1499 343 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 406.1499 (pause 0.24) 406.3879 344 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 406.3879 And put the 407.3764 345 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 407.3764 (pause 0.43) 407.8034 346 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 407.8034 shored it all up 408.6455 347 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 408.6455 (pause 0.29) 408.9323 348 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 408.9323 put the ground back, put all the grass and everything back 411.4623 349 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 411.4623 (pause 0.41) 411.8739 350 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 411.8739 and uh, had a stove down there with a pipe 414.5222 351 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 414.5222 (pause 0.14) 414.6625 352 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 414.6625 coming up out of the ground. (laughing) But then, uh. 416.7558 353 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 416.7558 (pause 0.25) 417.0060 354 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 417.0060 This was uh, actually dangerous though, because it was one these old uh, 420.3044 355 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 420.3044 (pause 0.53) 420.8302 356 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 420.8302 oil stoves that we put under there with the 422.6425 357 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 422.6425 (pause 0.53) 423.1727 358 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 423.1727 pipe up 423.8195 359 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 423.8195 (pause 0.10) 423.9233 360 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 423.9233 from the ground. That was the only thing coming up from under the ground. 426.4801 361 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 426.4801 (pause 0.26) 426.7364 362 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 426.7364 Old lady across the street, uh, found out about it, and she ma- called the police and made us cover it up. 432.1012 363 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 432.1012 (pause 0.68) 432.7785 364 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 432.7785 But uh, it was the underground bunk. 434.6840 365 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 434.6840 (pause 0.58) 435.2628 366 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 435.2628 And then we read uh, 436.2484 367 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 436.2484 (pause 0.70) 436.9440 368 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 436.9440 437.0100 369 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 437.0100 (pause 0.11) 437.1210 370 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 437.1210 about the Wright Brothers one time, we were gonna make this glider 440.3309 371 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 440.3309 (pause 0.07) 440.4000 372 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 440.4000 and jump off the garage and fly it. 442.3379 373 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 442.3379 (pause 0.90) 443.2350 374 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 443.2350 And we called ourselves the Wrong Brothers. [] 446.7361 375 DTA_int_04 445.2672 [] 446.5602 376 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 447.2365 And uh. 448.0115 377 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 448.0115 (pause 0.89) 448.9024 378 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 448.9024 Uh. 449.6390 379 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 449.6390 (pause 0.62) 450.2554 380 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 450.2554 We got in an argument as to who was gonna fly it, and I guess it was a good thing we did. And it never got off the ground. Although we drew a lot of plans. We were gonna cover it, and make it out of bamboo and cover it with canvas and 459.6337 381 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 459.6337 (pause 0.41) 460.0426 382 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 460.0426 whatnot. 460.7199 383 DTA_int_04 460.9337 Yeah. 461.2266 384 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 461.6781 [Uh.] 462.0544 385 DTA_int_04 461.7453 [Um,] 462.0544 386 DTA_int_04 462.6179 what are your favorite TV programs /now/? 464.6217 387 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 465.7693 Well, I guess, uh, 466.7884 388 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 466.7884 (pause 1.03) 467.8196 389 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 467.8196 Huntley Brinkley 468.8457 390 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 468.8457 (pause 0.39) 469.2342 391 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 469.2342 would be uh, one of mine, uh. 471.3333 392 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 471.3333 (pause 0.74) 472.0778 393 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 472.0778 Scope. 472.7307 394 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 472.7307 (pause 0.17) 472.9016 395 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 472.9016 They're running that Vietnam series right now. 474.9809 396 DTA_int_04 474.9809 Mm-hm. 475.3776 397 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 475.2191 [Scope.] 475.9267 398 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 477.2326 Um. 477.8489 399 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 477.8489 (pause 2.40) 480.2512 400 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 480.2512 Um. I'm not 481.2946 401 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 481.2946 (pause 0.27) 481.5640 402 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 481.5640 s- too much for some of the uh, 483.3519 403 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 483.3519 (pause 0.19) 483.5411 404 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 483.5411 more popular programs. [Uh.] 485.4574 405 DTA_int_04 485.1828 [You-you watch] mostly the news then. 487.4528 406 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 485.6881 [Yeah.] 485.9089 407 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 487.4589 Yeah, this is what I'm mostly interested in, Lou Gordon, 489.8031 408 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 489.8031 (pause 0.99) 490.7892 409 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 490.7892 Channel Fifty sports. 492.0350 410 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 492.0350 (pause 0.11) 492.1448 411 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 492.1448 On Channel Fifty, if weren't for Channel Fifty, I don't know what I'd do. 495.0372 412 DTA_int_04 495.2987 Mm-hm. 495.7503 413 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 495.8052 496.1591 414 DTA_int_04 496.9097 /???/ 497.7518 415 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 498.1973 [Yeah.] 498.5146 416 DTA_int_04 498.1973 [Uh.] 498.5146 417 DTA_int_04 498.8929 What about that Vietnam program, what do you think about it? What have they been showing? I haven't seen it. 502.9815 418 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 503.7528 Oh, I think it's terrific. 504.7693 419 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 504.7693 (pause 0.15) 504.9218 420 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 504.9218 I think they give uh, an insight 507.2589 421 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 507.2589 (pause 1.14) 508.4009 422 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 508.4009 into the Vietnam problem that's uh, 510.5061 423 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 510.5061 (pause 0.09) 510.5916 424 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 510.5916 pretty hard to get otherwise, I mean they're presenting pro and con. 513.4632 425 DTA_int_04 513.6158 Mm-hm. 514.0063 426 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 514.2870 And um, 515.1779 427 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 515.1779 (pause 1.25) 516.4297 428 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 516.4297 um, 516.9179 429 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 516.9179 (pause 1.10) 518.0163 430 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 518.0163 I think it's a tremendous series, only thing I think most 520.7755 431 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 520.7755 (pause 0.14) 520.9158 432 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 520.9158 people with- i- uh. 522.0081 433 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 522.0081 (pause 0.34) 522.3519 434 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 522.3519 uh, w- I think it comes at the same time that other probably more popular programs come on and uh, 527.2580 435 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 527.2580 (pause 0.46) 527.7218 436 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 527.7218 people who ought to be seeing it don't see it, consequently when the issue comes up, 530.9111 437 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 530.9111 (pause 0.25) 531.1613 438 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 531.1613 they react on an emotional basis rather than on a 533.4711 439 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 533.4711 (pause 0.42) 533.8921 440 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 533.8921 rational basis. 534.8896 441 DTA_int_04 534.8896 Now what do you think about the Vietnam problem? 536.8850 442 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 538.9495 Oh, I think it's- uh, 540.1211 443 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 540.1211 (pause 1.47) 541.5917 444 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 541.5917 it's um, 542.5193 445 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 542.5193 (pause 1.02) 543.5352 446 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 543.5352 one of these things where uh, 544.9577 447 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 544.9577 (pause 1.76) 546.7212 448 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 546.7212 persons who are familiar with the communistic doctrine 549.5771 449 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 549.5771 (pause 0.50) 550.0742 450 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 550.0742 and it's tenets, 550.9895 451 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 550.9895 (pause 0.65) 551.6363 452 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 551.6363 um, 552.1611 453 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 552.1611 (pause 0.83) 552.9882 454 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 552.9882 aren't gonna be 553.8449 455 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 553.8449 (pause 0.20) 554.0441 456 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 554.0441 beguiled by uh, 555.2396 457 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 555.2396 (pause 0.23) 555.4720 458 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 555.4720 uh, 555.9037 459 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 555.9037 (pause 0.54) 556.4416 460 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 556.4416 the fact that 557.1655 461 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 557.1655 (pause 0.11) 557.2751 462 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 557.2751 they're saying that this is an internal revolution, it's not. 560.3640 463 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 560.3640 (pause 0.70) 561.0680 464 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 561.0680 It's one- it's uh, 562.5915 465 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 562.5915 (pause 0.76) 563.3553 466 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 563.3553 War Liberation, so called. 564.9890 467 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 564.9890 (pause 0.53) 565.5203 468 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 565.5203 Um. 565.9454 469 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 565.9454 (pause 1.45) 567.3964 470 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 567.3964 Fostered the theory that Mao Zedong has put forth. 571.1015 471 DTA_int_04 571.5398 Mm-hm. 571.8121 472 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 571.8675 Uh, he- e- Mao Zedong admits that he made a mistake in Korea in using the 576.4169 473 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 576.4169 (pause 0.45) 576.8685 474 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 576.8685 traditional type of invasion to foster a- 579.3729 475 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 579.3729 (pause 0.87) 580.2462 476 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 580.2462 a communist doctrine, so to speak. 582.0729 477 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 582.0729 (pause 0.62) 582.6892 478 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 582.6892 And so, uh, he's developed this uh 585.0048 479 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 585.0048 (pause 0.40) 585.4014 480 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 585.4014 theory of guerrilla warfare, which he says, uh, will 588.4363 481 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 588.4363 (pause 0.09) 588.5279 482 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 588.5279 succeed in uh, 589.7483 483 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 589.7483 (pause 0.71) 590.4622 484 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 590.4622 in 590.8040 485 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 590.8040 (pause 0.22) 591.0236 486 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 591.0236 bringing about the tenets of communism 592.6207 487 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 592.6207 (pause 0.24) 592.8587 488 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 592.8587 throughout the world. 593.6886 489 DTA_int_04 593.9205 Mm-hm. 594.2622 490 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 594.6039 And so, uh, 595.8613 491 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 595.8613 (pause 0.86) 596.7222 492 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 596.7222 he's out to prove this in South Vietnam. 598.8397 493 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 598.8397 (pause 0.26) 599.0961 494 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 599.0961 This is a critical thing, if it's successful there 601.4551 495 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 601.4551 (pause 0.49) 601.9433 496 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 601.9433 then, um, 602.7731 497 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 602.7731 (pause 0.39) 603.1637 498 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 603.1637 it can be successful 604.1644 499 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 604.1644 (pause 0.10) 604.2664 500 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 604.2664 in many other parts of the world. 605.6444 501 DTA_int_04 605.7919 Mm-hm. 606.1275 502 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 606.3917 And uh, 607.0865 503 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 607.0865 (pause 0.73) 607.8126 504 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 607.8126 well, to show that suc- uh, that the United States is on the right track as far as I'm concerned, now I can get arguments from 613.6587 505 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 613.6587 (pause 0.26) 613.9150 506 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 613.9150 all kinds of quarter- 614.7859 507 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 614.7859 (pause 0.33) 615.1124 508 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 615.1124 As soon as people 616.5517 509 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 616.5517 (pause 0.44) 616.9910 510 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 616.9910 in other parts of the world found out, 618.9620 511 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 618.9620 (pause 0.67) 619.6353 512 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 619.6353 that the United States 620.6117 513 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 620.6117 (pause 0.37) 620.9839 514 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 620.9839 was gonna stick up 622.0046 515 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 622.0046 (pause 0.21) 622.2130 516 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 622.2130 for a small country, and that it wasn't lip service and then it wasn't a paper tiger, 625.7885 517 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 625.7885 (pause 0.16) 625.9441 518 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 625.9441 you saw what happened. 626.8181 519 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 626.8181 (pause 0.41) 627.2234 520 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 627.2234 Uh, in Indonesia, you saw what happened. 629.2787 521 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 629.2787 (pause 0.51) 629.7918 522 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 629.7918 Uh, Communist Party was thrown out completely. You've seen what's happened in Africa, in a number of countries of Africa. 634.7392 523 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 634.7392 (pause 0.52) 635.2611 524 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 635.2611 You've seen uh, 636.1948 525 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 636.1948 (pause 0.21) 636.4022 526 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 636.4022 uh, 637.0064 527 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 637.0064 (pause 0.55) 637.5556 528 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 637.5556 uh, the Dominican Republic, the United States had to move in there 640.9728 529 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 640.9728 (pause 0.39) 641.3650 530 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 641.3650 uh, at the time. 642.1278 531 DTA_int_04 642.4222 [Yeah.] 642.7201 532 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 642.5976 [Uh.] 643.0979 533 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 643.2566 Irres- 643.6563 534 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 643.6563 (pause 0.26) 643.9126 535 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 643.9126 Regardless of uh, what, uh 645.8441 536 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 645.8441 (pause 0.13) 645.9784 537 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 645.9784 persons would 646.4330 538 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 646.4330 (pause 0.08) 646.5153 539 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 646.5153 say about well, it's none of our business, i- it is our business. 649.0210 540 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 649.0210 (pause 0.26) 649.2773 541 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 649.2773 i- uh, if someone considered 650.7970 542 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 650.7970 (pause 0.26) 651.0594 543 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 651.0594 the tenets 651.6399 544 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 651.6399 (pause 0.27) 651.9115 545 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 651.9115 of communism 652.5522 546 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 652.5522 (pause 0.35) 652.9061 547 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 652.9061 as they were written in the middle of the last century. 654.8053 548 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 654.8053 (pause 0.37) 655.1775 549 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 655.1775 And as, uh, 655.8860 550 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 655.8860 (pause 0.60) 656.4840 551 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 656.4840 many of these people 657.3390 552 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 657.3390 (pause 1.46) 658.7978 553 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 658.7978 believe in and are dedicated to. Now, the question is, are we dedicated to the principles we believe in in our country. 663.9741 554 DTA_int_04 663.9741 Mm-hm. 664.3585 555 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 664.4134 Many others aren't, and uh. 665.7699 556 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 665.7699 (pause 0.19) 665.9559 557 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 665.9559 So, it's kind of hard for us to 667.6195 558 DTA_int_04 668.1149 Mm-hm. 668.3407 559 DTA_int_04 668.3407 (pause 0.66) 669.0022 560 DTA_int_04 669.0022 [Uh. Do you think] the Americans in general understand the principles, uh, [of the country] they're in- 673.8417 561 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 669.0266 this. Mm-hm? 669.5360 562 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 669.5360 (pause 2.73) 672.2704 563 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 672.2704 672.3284 564 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 672.3284 (pause 0.25) 672.5816 565 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 672.5816 [No, I don't.] 673.1003 566 DTA_int_04 673.9271 involved in? 674.6594 567 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 675.0363 Oh, I'm sorry. I answered you [too soon]. Do I- you're saying, [do I think Americ-] 678.2100 568 DTA_int_04 676.1809 [Well.] 676.3152 569 DTA_int_04 676.3152 (pause 1.13) 677.4407 570 DTA_int_04 677.4407 [Do you think the] Americans understand the principles of a- of the country? 680.6142 571 DTA_int_04 680.7179 Of our country. 681.4016 572 DTA_int_04 681.4016 (pause 0.39) 681.7921 573 DTA_int_04 681.7921 [Or /whether/] /it needs to be taught/. 682.9647 574 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 681.8438 [No.] 682.3393 575 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 682.3393 (pause 0.63) 682.9647 576 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 682.9647 No, I don't think so. I think they give lip service to it and, uh, 685.9615 577 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 686.3886 by and large, I don't think 688.1313 578 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 688.1313 (pause 0.82) 688.9538 579 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 688.9538 they really understa- I- 690.2310 580 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 690.2310 (pause 0.18) 690.4079 581 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 690.4079 Let's put it this way. The average American going over seas to a foreign country, 694.1182 582 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 694.1182 (pause 0.44) 694.5575 583 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 694.5575 if he becomes involved in 696.2488 584 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 696.2488 (pause 0.30) 696.5447 585 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 696.5447 an argument, 697.1244 586 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 697.1244 (pause 0.23) 697.3594 587 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 697.3594 in which a communist knows what he's arguing about, 699.4509 588 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 699.4509 (pause 0.13) 699.5790 589 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 699.5790 the average American does not know 700.8704 590 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 700.8704 (pause 0.18) 701.0535 591 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 701.0535 what he's arguing about. 702.0939 592 DTA_int_04 702.2831 Mm-hm 702.5241 593 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 702.6126 And yet, it shouldn't be that way because 704.3994 594 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 704.3994 (pause 0.36) 704.7594 595 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 704.7594 as 705.1408 596 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 705.1408 (pause 0.77) 705.9092 597 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 705.9092 the principles 706.6750 598 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 706.6750 (pause 0.20) 706.8794 599 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 706.8794 upon which our society is based are such 709.1626 600 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 709.1626 (pause 0.27) 709.4281 601 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 709.4281 that he shouldn't- 710.1137 602 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 710.1137 (pause 0.12) 710.2326 603 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 710.2326 ha- shouldn't have to be on the defensive 711.9755 604 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 711.9755 (pause 0.34) 712.3172 605 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 712.3172 when arguing with a communist. 713.3276 606 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 713.3276 (pause 0.22) 713.5473 607 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 713.5473 But, 713.7212 608 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 713.7212 (pause 0.13) 713.8493 609 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 713.8493 unfortunately, too many of 'em, as I see, are not watching programs like Scope and some of these other thing 718.0927 610 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 718.0927 (pause 0.23) 718.3184 611 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 718.3184 that would give them the in depth 719.7379 612 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 719.7379 (pause 0.41) 720.1497 613 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 720.1497 understanding [of uh-] and reading, 721.8965 614 DTA_int_04 720.8571 [Sure.] 721.2904 615 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 722.3023 um, m- 722.9979 616 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 722.9979 (pause 0.09) 723.0871 617 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 723.0871 more than just uh, 724.4325 618 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 724.4325 (pause 0.41) 724.8398 619 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 724.8398 the fact that Americans are dropping bombs on 726.9308 620 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 726.9308 (pause 0.37) 727.2969 621 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 727.2969 poor defenseless, uh, people, so to speak. 729.5702 622 DTA_int_04 729.5702 Mm-hm. 729.9025 623 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 730.0339 Uh. Uh. 731.2606 624 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 731.2606 (pause 0.09) 731.3460 625 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 731.3460 They won't read the important story here, and so. 733.6450 626 DTA_int_04 734.3895 Mm. 734.6587 627 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 735.3608 Uh. 735.7177 628 DTA_int_04 735.8520 Um. 736.1625 629 DTA_int_04 736.1625 (pause 0.68) 736.8433 630 DTA_int_04 736.8433 I- 737.0740 631 DTA_int_04 737.0740 (pause 0.09) 737.1606 632 DTA_int_04 737.1606 Now, to think back when you were young again, what, 739.3404 633 DTA_int_04 739.3404 (pause 0.08) 739.4197 634 DTA_int_04 739.4197 was there anything you could do to get a wish to come true? 742.3855 635 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 744.3113 Anything that I could do? 745.3175 636 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 745.3175 (pause 0.49) 745.8056 637 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 745.8056 Um. 746.2517 638 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 746.2517 (pause 0.44) 746.6880 639 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 746.6880 Yes. 747.3043 640 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 747.3043 (pause 1.22) 748.5217 641 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 748.5217 Um. 749.3791 642 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 749.3791 (pause 0.74) 750.1144 643 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 750.1144 I wanted a model airplane, how did I get it? Well, I went around and tried collecting uh, pop bottles. 754.7496 644 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 754.7496 (pause 0.13) 754.8747 645 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 754.8747 At that time, they were, uh, 756.0487 646 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 756.0487 (pause 0.69) 756.7382 647 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 756.7382 there was deposits on these bottles. 758.3058 648 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 758.3058 (pause 0.37) 758.6723 649 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 758.6723 I'd go around, I'd g- 759.6121 650 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 759.6121 (pause 0.35) 759.9630 651 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 759.9630 find as many of 'em as I could, and uh, turn 'em in, and get the money and buy a model airplane. [And uh.] 764.9039 652 DTA_int_04 764.4798 [Mm-hm.] 764.7910 653 DTA_int_04 765.4439 Were there any, uh, rhymes or anything- any kind of superstitious things you could do in addition to your 770.9639 654 DTA_int_04 770.9639 (pause 0.61) 771.5697 655 DTA_int_04 771.5697 practical. 772.2715 656 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 773.6078 Oh. Yes, but tha- 775.5372 657 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 775.5372 (pause 1.70) 777.2323 658 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 777.2323 trying to remember things. We had all kinds of little [things.] 780.9733 659 DTA_int_04 780.5647 [Do anything] with a wishbone? 781.7178 660 DTA_int_04 782.5392 Chicken bone? 783.0054 661 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 783.1640 Yeah. Dry it out, and uh, break it, and the one- the end that had the uh 787.0945 662 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 787.0945 (pause 0.39) 787.4851 663 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 787.4851 tip on it was the uh 788.7848 664 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 788.7848 (pause 0.79) 789.5775 665 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 789.5775 was the lucky one. 790.5233 666 DTA_int_04 790.7552 Mm-hm. 791.1336 667 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 791.3837 You'd make a wish, 792.2197 668 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 792.2197 (pause 0.30) 792.5221 669 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 792.5221 you'd have to wish silently. You couldn't tell anyone what you were wishing for. 795.4744 670 DTA_int_04 796.0903 Did you ever wish on anything else? 797.3770 671 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 799.3023 Wish on a star- Oh. Shooting star. 800.8817 672 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 800.8817 (pause 0.24) 801.1258 673 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 801.1258 Yeah. 801.3393 674 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 801.3393 (pause 0.69) 802.0289 675 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 802.0289 You see a shooting star, 803.1639 676 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 803.1639 (pause 0.64) 803.8044 677 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 803.8044 uh, you'd make a wish and uh 805.6899 678 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 805.6899 (pause 0.28) 805.9653 679 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 805.9653 had to be silent. 807.0198 680 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 807.0198 (pause 0.12) 807.1358 681 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 807.1358 That. 807.5934 682 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 807.5934 (pause 0.48) 808.0694 683 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 808.0694 Also, there were some insects, I think. 810.3333 684 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 810.3333 (pause 1.69) 812.0236 685 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 812.0236 But which ones, I don't know, some kind of insect. 814.4576 686 DTA_int_04 814.6834 /inaudible/ 815.4767 687 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 815.4767 Yeah. 815.9221 688 DTA_int_04 817.0717 What would you do when you lost a tooth? 818.7987 689 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 819.5919 Put it under the pillow. 820.4612 690 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 820.4612 (pause 0.17) 820.6299 691 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 820.6299 [] 821.8565 692 DTA_int_04 820.6299 [ Well, what would happen? 821.9236 693 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 823.4317 Well, the 824.1822 694 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 824.1822 (pause 0.31) 824.4935 695 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 824.4935 Fairy Godmother would come and leave a little 826.7358 696 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 826.7358 (pause 0.63) 827.3704 697 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 827.3704 coin there. 828.0661 698 DTA_int_04 828.3309 Uh-huh. 828.7727 699 DTA_int_04 828.7727 (pause 0.27) 829.0448 700 DTA_int_04 829.0448 To be found, huh? 829.7856 701 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 829.9235 Uh-huh. 830.4178 702 DTA_int_04 830.7229 Could you tell me about your grade school? What 832.7664 703 DTA_int_04 832.7664 (pause 0.15) 832.9129 704 DTA_int_04 832.9129 were some of the subjects you studied? 834.9698 705 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 836.3850 I think my grade school was unique compared to the ones today. I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 839.7698 706 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 839.7698 (pause 0.20) 839.9685 707 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 839.9685 here in Detroit. 840.7522 708 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 840.7522 (pause 0.40) 841.1523 709 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 841.1523 Which is over on the Boulevard- 842.6046 710 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 842.6046 (pause 0.22) 842.8243 711 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 842.8243 West Grand Boulevard and um 844.2741 712 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 844.2741 (pause 0.54) 844.8118 713 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 844.8118 Moore. 845.2328 714 DTA_int_04 845.5501 Mm-hm. I know it. 846.3283 715 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 846.5020 And, um, 847.2953 716 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 847.2953 (pause 1.28) 848.5704 717 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 848.5704 848.6864 718 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 848.6864 (pause 0.71) 849.3942 719 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 849.3942 we- I studied the 850.6217 720 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 850.6217 (pause 0.10) 850.7254 721 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 850.7254 usual, reading, writing, arithmetic, uh. 852.9777 722 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 852.9777 (pause 0.56) 853.5330 723 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 853.5330 I think they were using f- phonetics at that time though. 856.5474 724 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 856.5474 (pause 0.11) 856.6595 725 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 856.6595 See. 857.0440 726 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 857.0440 (pause 0.91) 857.9532 727 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 857.9532 Um. 858.5451 728 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 858.5451 (pause 0.74) 859.2835 729 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 859.2835 We had there, um, 860.7053 730 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 860.7053 (pause 0.32) 861.0287 731 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 861.0287 a manual training shop, it was called, in which we learned to use all kinds of, uh, 865.1272 732 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 865.1272 (pause 0.36) 865.4872 733 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 865.4872 tools, which later on became 867.6293 734 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 867.6293 (pause 0.36) 867.9893 735 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 867.9893 very w- 868.3525 736 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 868.3525 (pause 0.30) 868.6515 737 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 868.6515 useful to me 869.3350 738 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 869.3350 (pause 0.39) 869.7281 739 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 869.7281 right here in the house a lot 870.6130 740 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 870.6130 (pause 0.16) 870.7777 741 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 870.7777 that I've done. 871.3635 742 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 871.3635 (pause 0.96) 872.3198 743 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 872.3198 Um. 872.9056 744 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 872.9056 (pause 0.70) 873.6073 745 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 873.6073 873.6866 746 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 873.6866 (pause 2.58) 876.2684 747 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 876.2684 Uh. I- I think our education was unique 879.3590 748 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 879.3590 (pause 0.40) 879.7557 749 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 879.7557 at that time. 880.5510 750 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 880.5510 (pause 0.33) 880.8835 751 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 880.8835 [As I-] 881.2131 752 DTA_int_04 880.8835 [From your] seat in your classroom, what were some of the things you could see in that room? 884.8375 753 DTA_int_04 889.9241 For example, what did you sit in? Or do you have a /??/ for that? 892.7391 754 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 894.1304 I generally was in the center I guess of the uh, class. We sat 897.3884 755 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 897.3884 (pause 0.35) 897.7362 756 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 897.7362 in the alphabetical order, and my name being /RD-NAME-3/, is about the middle of the alphabet, so that pretty well put me in the 902.6100 757 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 902.6100 (pause 0.68) 903.2916 758 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 903.2916 center. As far as seeing, 904.7989 759 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 904.7989 (pause 0.99) 905.7874 760 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 905.7874 um, 906.3549 761 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 906.3549 (pause 0.49) 906.8492 762 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 906.8492 about all we saw was the 908.1021 763 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 908.1021 (pause 0.21) 908.3095 764 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 908.3095 teacher and the blackboard, and uh, 910.0487 765 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 910.0487 (pause 1.26) 911.3118 766 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 911.3118 and there was flag. 912.6029 767 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 912.6029 (pause 1.64) 914.2382 768 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 914.2382 Uh. 914.8424 769 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 914.8424 (pause 3.31) 918.1504 770 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 918.1504 And. 918.5166 771 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 918.5166 (pause 0.14) 918.6569 772 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 918.6569 All the little devilment that went on. 920.2923 773 DTA_int_04 920.4937 Mm-hm. 920.8720 774 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 921.3175 [In which I] was part of it. [] 922.9327 775 DTA_int_04 921.3175 [Did you?] 921.8298 776 DTA_int_04 921.8298 (pause 0.83) 922.6581 777 DTA_int_04 922.6581 [] 923.4026 778 DTA_int_04 923.6284 Oh we'll get to that 924.4827 779 DTA_int_04 924.4827 (pause 0.13) 924.6169 780 DTA_int_04 924.6169 one. [] 925.3614 781 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 924.7756 [Uh.] 924.9891 782 DTA_int_04 925.8535 Uh. Did you sit at tables or what? 927.7513 783 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 927.9771 No, these were uh, regular student's uh, benches- chairs. Uh. I guess they call 'em desks. 931.9430 784 DTA_int_04 932.2934 Mm-hm. 932.6961 785 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 932.7752 That uh, let up 933.6051 786 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 933.6051 (pause 0.58) 934.1848 787 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 934.1848 you know, the seat part let up. 935.4906 788 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 935.4906 (pause 0.65) 936.1374 789 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 936.1374 Ink wells 936.9938 790 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 936.9938 (pause 0.12) 937.1159 791 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 937.1159 and um 937.6651 792 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 937.6651 (pause 0.15) 937.8176 793 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 937.8176 holding 938.2692 794 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 938.2692 (pause 0.20) 938.4706 795 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 938.4706 compartment. 938.8733 796 DTA_int_04 939.1858 If you walked outside your classroom, where would you be? 941.5168 797 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 944.1345 If I walked outside my classroom, where would I be? 946.7096 798 DTA_int_04 946.7340 Mm-hm. 947.2221 799 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 947.5761 Well, we walked in line 949.2786 800 DTA_int_04 949.6058 Mm-hm. 950.0208 801 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 950.3231 and we went to class to class in line, so if I s- I'd be in the hall if tha- if you want a specific answer, yeah. 955.3874 802 DTA_int_04 955.9305 And what would you find in the hall? 957.3279 803 DTA_int_04 957.3279 (pause 0.93) 958.2628 804 DTA_int_04 958.2628 Anything /inaudible/ 959.2168 805 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 958.5553 958.6102 806 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 959.3058 There were glass enclosures along the hall in which there were exhibits and 962.5169 807 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 962.5169 (pause 0.16) 962.6755 808 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 962.6755 different things that I can remember. And lockers, all along the walls, everywhere. 966.1412 809 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 966.1412 (pause 0.69) 966.8307 810 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 966.8307 [Lockers.] 967.3616 811 DTA_int_04 967.1210 [And what] about, any place to get water? 968.8078 812 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 969.3936 Yeah. Water fountains, uh, strategically located. 971.8220 813 DTA_int_04 972.2797 Mm-hm. 972.5177 814 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 972.5177 So that you could- but you couldn't- you had to have permission to get a drink of water 975.8129 815 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 976.2517 when moving from class to class. [Yeah.] 977.9237 816 DTA_int_04 977.7473 [Oh.] Even then? 978.6870 817 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 978.8451 Yeah. 979.1624 818 DTA_int_04 979.4614 What's outside the school? 980.6818 819 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 981.1334 What 981.3775 820 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 981.3775 (pause 0.19) 981.5666 821 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 981.5666 [Was.] 981.8685 822 DTA_int_04 981.5666 [What] would be outside the school? 982.9661 823 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 984.2659 Um. 984.7078 824 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 984.7078 (pause 1.39) 986.0990 825 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 986.0990 Well, your playground. 987.1041 826 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 987.1041 (pause 1.01) 988.1109 827 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 988.1109 And your uh, 989.0812 828 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 989.0812 (pause 0.21) 989.2948 829 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 989.2948 oh, 989.7646 830 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 989.7646 (pause 0.35) 990.1124 831 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 990.1124 walkw- uh, well there's the uh, 992.0525 832 DTA_int_04 992.2600 [/?/] 992.6352 833 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 992.4919 [shrubbery and] 993.3183 834 DTA_int_04 993.1420 [Yeah.] 993.4492 835 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 993.4614 uh, [some.] 993.9495 836 DTA_int_04 993.7278 [Anything] in the playground? 994.6917 837 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 996.3148 At that time, 997.4263 838 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 997.4263 (pause 2.11) 999.5403 839 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 999.5403 mm, 1000.3397 840 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1000.3397 (pause 1.08) 1001.4221 841 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1001.4221 no. 1002.1361 842 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1002.1361 (pause 1.32) 1003.4537 843 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1003.4537 Uh. I couldn't understand this, I don't think they had any swings 1006.4696 844 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1006.4696 (pause 0.74) 1007.2094 845 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1007.2094 during the regular school year. 1009.0019 846 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1009.0019 (pause 0.18) 1009.1789 847 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1009.1789 But they would put 'em there during the summer. 1011.1377 848 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1011.1377 (pause 0.75) 1011.8882 849 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1011.8882 Uh. This is the reverse. 1013.1514 850 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1013.1514 (pause 0.76) 1013.9121 851 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1013.9121 Uh. 1014.2417 852 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1014.2417 (pause 2.12) 1016.3665 853 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1016.3665 I may be wrong. No. No. There were swings. 1018.5461 854 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1018.5461 (pause 0.27) 1018.8174 855 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1018.8174 There were- 1019.2568 856 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1019.2568 (pause 1.41) 1020.6664 857 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1020.6664 There were swings, and that was about all. 1022.1809 858 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1022.1809 (pause 0.11) 1022.2907 859 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1022.2907 The large swings, but no, nothing else. 1024.2190 860 DTA_int_04 1024.2066 /??/ 1024.7118 861 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1024.9208 And it was a small playground. They played ball there and I guess they were thinking in those terms too. 1029.2337 862 DTA_int_04 1029.2886 Yeah. 1029.5754 863 DTA_int_04 1029.5754 (pause 0.57) 1030.1490 864 DTA_int_04 1030.1490 What did the kids do after school got out in the afternoon? 1032.7363 865 DTA_int_04 1032.7363 (pause 1.42) 1034.1535 866 DTA_int_04 1034.1535 /?/ 1034.5990 867 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1035.8133 Well, 1036.3503 868 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1036.3503 (pause 0.67) 1037.0154 869 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1037.0154 went home of course, and had dinner. And we'd walk home, play all the way home. 1040.9861 870 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1040.9861 (pause 0.58) 1041.5658 871 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1041.5658 So to speak. 1042.2981 872 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1042.2981 (pause 0.76) 1043.0608 873 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1043.0608 But after we got home, uh, there was- 1045.5977 874 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1045.5977 (pause 0.70) 1046.2995 875 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1046.2995 when I was older, it was the hobbies, as I say, model airplanes and boats and this and that, but uh, 1050.9206 876 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1050.9206 (pause 0.40) 1051.3233 877 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1051.3233 prior to that time, 1052.7324 878 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1052.7324 (pause 0.87) 1053.6020 879 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1053.6020 uh, 1054.1085 880 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1054.1085 (pause 1.54) 1055.6523 881 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1055.6523 we would 1055.9940 882 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1055.9940 (pause 0.81) 1056.7993 883 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1056.7993 get together and play in each other's backyards or out in the alley or 1060.0212 884 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1060.0212 (pause 0.34) 1060.3568 885 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1060.3568 old broken down trucks and things, 1062.3498 886 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1062.3498 (pause 0.24) 1062.5938 887 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1062.5938 cars, we'd 1063.2468 888 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1063.2468 (pause 0.54) 1063.7838 889 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1063.7838 drive 'em, so to speak. 1065.0607 890 DTA_int_04 1065.3048 Okay. 1065.7076 891 DTA_int_04 1065.7076 (pause 0.17) 1065.8784 892 DTA_int_04 1065.8784 Were- did you ever have a teacher who hollered at you? 1067.9599 893 DTA_int_04 1067.9599 (pause 0.56) 1068.5184 894 DTA_int_04 1068.5184 Or hollered at anything? 1069.5185 895 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1069.8486 Oh yeah. 1070.2636 896 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1070.2636 (pause 0.86) 1071.1240 897 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1071.1240 [Yeah.] 1071.4230 898 DTA_int_04 1071.2601 [So] tell me what they'd holler at. 1072.4281 899 DTA_int_04 1073.1881 /anything/ 1073.7190 900 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1073.7190 I think primarily for 1074.8080 901 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1074.9544 uh, talking 1075.8792 902 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1075.8792 (pause 0.25) 1076.1294 903 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1076.1294 in class. Uh. She's trying to- I can appreciate it now as I look back. 1079.9813 904 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1079.9813 (pause 0.32) 1080.3047 905 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1080.3047 She's trying to 1081.0309 906 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1081.0309 (pause 0.85) 1081.8831 907 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1081.8831 get a train of thought going in the class, and then all of sudden here's this buzz or someone talking back then. If it's the same individual, you know, that she has had to discipline and, 1089.4631 908 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1089.4631 (pause 0.59) 1090.0489 909 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1090.0489 maybe her- 1090.5708 910 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1090.5708 (pause 1.31) 1091.8766 911 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1091.8766 her uh. 1092.5113 912 DTA_int_04 1092.8896 Did you ever get yelled at for anything you remember? 1094.9759 913 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1096.0531 Yes. 1096.6544 914 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1096.6544 (pause 0.57) 1097.2219 915 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1097.2219 There was this teacher, Ms. /RD-NAME-2/ 1098.6620 916 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1098.6620 (pause 1.46) 1100.1204 917 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1100.1204 who yelled at me because uh, 1101.6823 918 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1101.6823 (pause 2.45) 1104.1354 919 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1104.1354 1104.4283 920 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1104.4283 (pause 0.76) 1105.1878 921 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1105.1878 used to make these airplane noises myself [in class. (laughing)] 1108.3726 922 DTA_int_04 1107.4939 [] 1108.6838 923 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1109.1231 [] 1110.0263 924 DTA_int_04 1109.3062 [] 1110.0263 925 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1110.4087 As a matter of fact, uh, 1111.6468 926 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1111.6468 (pause 0.46) 1112.1106 927 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1112.1106 I had a friend tell me 1113.4775 928 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1113.4775 (pause 0.26) 1113.7338 929 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1113.7338 after I had left there 1115.2080 930 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1115.2080 (pause 0.53) 1115.7389 931 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1115.7389 um, 1116.2515 932 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1116.2515 (pause 0.66) 1116.9105 933 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1116.9105 she had commented one time that uh, oh. 1118.9975 934 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1118.9975 (pause 0.26) 1119.2601 935 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1119.2601 His, uh, 1119.8945 936 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1119.8945 (pause 0.30) 1120.1936 937 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1120.1936 fellow the name if Rockefeller. No. Not Rocky. 1122.1353 938 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1122.1353 (pause 0.40) 1122.5381 939 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1122.5381 It was the 1123.0446 940 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1123.0446 (pause 0.18) 1123.2215 941 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1123.2215 someone else. 1123.8195 942 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1123.8195 (pause 0.43) 1124.2528 943 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1124.2528 Who had said there must be 1125.6558 944 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1125.6558 (pause 0.44) 1126.0908 945 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1126.0908 must be /RD-NAME-4/'s spirit 1127.6662 946 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1127.6662 (pause 0.18) 1127.8492 947 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1127.8492 I see here, that left here some- but, uh, this was told to me. 1131.0171 948 DTA_int_04 1131.2307 [Mm-hm.] 1131.6212 949 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1131.4137 [afterward.] 1131.9382 950 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1132.4206 But I did have this habit. As I say, we were so crazy about these airplanes that all we could think was uh, 1137.5598 951 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1137.5598 (pause 0.49) 1138.0540 952 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1138.0540 how they sound, and then it was- just completely dominated our lives at that time. 1142.0956 953 DTA_int_04 1143.3427 [Did you] ever have a teacher 1144.7678 954 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1143.4892 [Yeah] 1143.7455 955 DTA_int_04 1144.9752 who you thought was really good? 1146.2140 956 DTA_int_04 1146.2140 (pause 0.30) 1146.5181 957 DTA_int_04 1146.5181 Uh, 1146.7368 958 DTA_int_04 1146.7368 (pause 0.24) 1146.9754 959 DTA_int_04 1146.9754 about your best teacher? 1148.0128 960 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1148.5559 Ms. /RD-NAME-2/. 1149.2698 961 DTA_int_04 1149.8076 What was it about her? 1150.7966 962 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1152.6700 I- she was 1154.0188 963 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1154.0188 (pause 0.15) 1154.1652 964 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1154.1652 a pleasant teacher. She was kind of strict, but she was just pleasant. 1157.5346 965 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1157.5346 (pause 0.27) 1157.8031 966 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1157.8031 Uh. 1158.2790 967 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1158.2790 (pause 0.54) 1158.8182 968 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1158.8182 I always did like Ms. /RD-NAME-2/. That's all I can remember. She uh, 1162.0321 969 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1162.0321 (pause 0.32) 1162.3495 970 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1162.3495 seemed to 1162.9170 971 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1162.9170 (pause 0.32) 1163.2343 972 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1163.2343 take pains with the kids and 1164.8330 973 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1164.8330 (pause 0.67) 1165.5049 974 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1165.5049 take this little extra 1166.6948 975 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1166.6948 (pause 0.85) 1167.5448 976 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1167.5448 uh, time to explain 1169.0236 977 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1169.0236 (pause 0.46) 1169.4812 978 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1169.4812 what uh, she was trying- 1170.7541 979 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1170.7541 (pause 0.21) 1170.9677 980 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1170.9677 wanted you to learn. 1171.9180 981 DTA_int_04 1172.3116 Mm-hm 1172.6167 982 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1173.8462 And uh. 1174.3161 983 DTA_int_04 1175.0587 Mm. 1175.4395 984 DTA_int_04 1175.4395 (pause 0.47) 1175.9112 985 DTA_int_04 1175.9112 Did you ever play tricks 1177.1560 986 DTA_int_04 1177.1560 (pause 0.41) 1177.5649 987 DTA_int_04 1177.5649 on your teacher? 1178.2411 988 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1181.0332 No. 1182.1115 989 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1182.1115 (pause 1.32) 1183.4356 990 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1183.4356 I can't recall. On another student, but not on a teacher. 1186.0402 991 DTA_int_04 1186.5284 What kind of devilment went on 1188.2888 992 DTA_int_04 1188.2888 (pause 0.28) 1188.5727 993 DTA_int_04 1188.5727 in class? 1189.0518 994 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1189.0518 Oh Lord. 1190.1654 995 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1191.5628 You mean me specifically? [Or the kids in general?] 1193.6820 996 DTA_int_04 1192.6019 [Yeah. You or anybody] around in the classroom. 1194.7987 997 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1195.3432 Yeah. We used to play all kinds of games, uh, on paper, and pass it around, you had to mark here and so and so (laughing) and mark there. 1202.3635 998 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1202.3635 (pause 0.42) 1202.7845 999 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1202.7845 This was the idea, I guess, was just to keep from getting caught as you passed this around. 1206.9524 1000 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1206.9524 (pause 0.89) 1207.8433 1001 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1207.8433 Uh. Books. 1208.7220 1002 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1208.7220 (pause 0.57) 1209.2956 1003 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1209.2956 Uh. 1209.7533 1004 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1209.7533 (pause 2.02) 1211.7782 1005 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1211.7782 A, one time put a girl's hair in the ink well. 1213.9041 1006 DTA_int_04 1214.2214 Mm-hm 1214.5448 1007 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1215.3564 Another time, a girl with long hair, I tied it on 1217.9015 1008 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1217.9015 (pause 0.37) 1218.2676 1009 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1218.2676 this- on the side of the uh, desk where this um, 1220.6648 1010 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1220.6648 (pause 0.49) 1221.1529 1011 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1221.1529 where all these were wrought iron desks with kind of filigree 1223.5572 1012 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1223.5572 (pause 0.57) 1224.1277 1013 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1224.1277 and we'd take the- uh, I took her hair and tied it. It was long, 1227.5697 1014 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1227.5697 (pause 0.13) 1227.6979 1015 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1227.6979 they wore their hair long then, 1228.6508 1016 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1228.6508 (pause 0.48) 1229.1329 1017 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1229.1329 tie it- the- tie it there, and then she would go until she got ready to move, this was a horrible thing to do, but uh, 1234.1360 1018 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1234.1360 (pause 0.56) 1234.6974 1019 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1234.6974 I did it. 1235.2100 1020 DTA_int_04 1235.2499 You got /unintelligible/ 1236.2197 1021 DTA_int_04 1236.2197 (pause 0.78) 1236.9951 1022 DTA_int_04 1236.9951 Do you ever remember the smartest kid in your class? 1239.5525 1023 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1241.7320 Who was the smarte- Daniel Boone. 1243.8237 1024 DTA_int_04 1244.7966 I- 1244.9907 1025 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1245.0334 No. Daniel Boone. Is that his name? 1246.5440 1026 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1246.5440 (pause 0.27) 1246.8120 1027 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1246.8120 No, not Daniel Boone. 1248.0996 1028 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1248.0996 (pause 1.91) 1250.0068 1029 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1250.0068 Daniel Boone was the uh. (laughing) No. [I'm thinking of uh.] 1253.6568 1030 DTA_int_04 1252.3594 [ That's /?/.] 1253.8666 1031 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1253.9924 No. Daniel- What was his name? 1255.8841 1032 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1255.8841 (pause 0.74) 1256.6200 1033 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1256.6200 1256.6954 1034 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1256.6954 (pause 0.67) 1257.3629 1035 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1257.3629 He was smart. 1258.0707 1036 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1258.0707 (pause 0.19) 1258.2599 1037 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1258.2599 I can't think of his f- last name. 1260.1276 1038 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1260.1276 (pause 0.50) 1260.6275 1039 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1260.6275 But it must have sounded like Boone though. 1262.1466 1040 DTA_int_04 1263.0314 Well, 1263.3609 1041 DTA_int_04 1263.3609 (pause 0.13) 1263.4951 1042 DTA_int_04 1263.4951 did he ever get any special favors or rewards or anything like that? 1266.8623 1043 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1268.3648 I think so, he seemed to uh, teacher k- 1271.0255 1044 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1271.0255 (pause 0.37) 1271.3916 1045 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1271.3916 ki- well, he was smart in all of his classes and he was pretty well known. The teachers 1275.0500 1046 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1275.0500 (pause 0.73) 1275.7761 1047 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1275.7761 kind of liked him. 1276.9327 1048 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1276.9327 (pause 1.08) 1278.0150 1049 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1278.0150 And uh, there were a number of girls too. I can't remember their names. 1280.7894 1050 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1280.7894 (pause 0.13) 1280.9175 1051 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1280.9175 Dan was, uh, 1281.8633 1052 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1281.8633 (pause 0.81) 1282.6717 1053 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1282.6717 quite [a smart boy.] 1283.5016 1054 DTA_int_04 1282.9585 [What about] the dumbest kid? Do you remember any one particular? 1286.2657 1055 DTA_int_04 1287.1994 Let's just [say. (laughing)] 1288.0842 1056 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1287.6815 [I think the] rest of the class. (laughing) 1289.2892 1057 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1289.6814 Uh. ] 1290.5251 1058 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1290.5251 (pause 0.68) 1291.2024 1059 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1291.2024 Um. (laughing) 1291.9324 1060 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1291.9324 (pause 3.60) 1295.5353 1061 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1295.5353 There were, but I can't remember. 1297.0947 1062 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1297.0947 (pause 0.48) 1297.5768 1063 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1297.5768 [/R- anyone/.] 1298.1199 1064 DTA_int_04 1297.6378 [Do you remember] what the teacher used to do with 'em? 1299.2001 1065 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1301.1321 Into the corner. 1301.9497 1066 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1301.9497 (pause 1.72) 1303.6730 1067 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1303.6730 Yeah. 1304.0757 1068 DTA_int_04 1304.3625 That's all, huh? 1305.4121 1069 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1305.9124 Well, it, uh, 1307.1285 1070 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1307.1285 (pause 0.41) 1307.5435 1071 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1307.5435 along with the s- so called dumbness, I guess went 1310.7500 1072 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1310.7500 (pause 0.18) 1310.9291 1073 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1310.9291 the boredom that went along with it because he couldn't keep up and couldn't catch on and uh. 1314.9483 1074 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1314.9483 (pause 0.54) 1315.4914 1075 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1315.4914 And so it was a nuisance, and so into the corner he went. And sat toward the corner, facing the corner. 1320.0108 1076 DTA_int_04 1320.1797 Mm-hm. 1320.5222 1077 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1321.1987 Um. 1321.6625 1078 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1321.6625 (pause 0.62) 1322.2849 1079 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1322.2849 That's about all. 1323.2616 1080 DTA_int_04 1323.2647 Mm-hm. 1323.5172 1081 DTA_int_04 1323.5172 (pause 0.37) 1323.8827 1082 DTA_int_04 1323.8827 What time did you start school? 1325.1153 1083 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1327.9613 I think school started at um, 1330.0799 1084 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1330.0799 (pause 1.93) 1332.0082 1085 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1332.0082 eight o'clock. Eight- eight thirty maybe. 1333.9243 1086 DTA_int_04 1334.4268 Mm-hm. 1334.7564 1087 DTA_int_04 1334.7564 (pause 1.15) 1335.9036 1088 DTA_int_04 1335.9036 And what time did you get out in the afternoon? 1337.7775 1089 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1337.7652 Think we got out at three thirty. 1338.9735 1090 DTA_int_04 1339.1702 Mm-hm. Good. 1339.8719 1091 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1340.3113 Yeah. But we came home for lunch. 1341.6661 1092 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1341.6661 (pause 0.62) 1342.2825 1093 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1342.2825 At noontime, see. 1343.2893 1094 DTA_int_04 1343.3870 What time would that be? 1344.2501 1095 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1345.9892 Guess we left school at 1347.1242 1096 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1347.1242 (pause 0.75) 1347.8748 1097 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1347.8748 twelve and- 1348.6945 1098 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1348.6945 (pause 0.31) 1348.9996 1099 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1348.9996 or t- 1349.3414 1100 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1349.3414 (pause 0.31) 1349.6465 1101 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1349.6465 twel- eleven-thirty maybe. 1350.8008 1102 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1350.8008 (pause 0.10) 1350.9045 1103 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1350.9045 Went ba- was back at twelve fi- 1352.4654 1104 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1352.4654 (pause 0.11) 1352.5752 1105 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1352.5752 twelve-thirty. Eleven-thirty to twelve-thirty. I think that was it. 1354.9884 1106 DTA_int_04 1355.9419 If you ever got out at uh, eleven 1357.8892 1107 DTA_int_04 1357.8892 (pause 0.35) 1358.2370 1108 DTA_int_04 1358.2370 forty-five, 1359.0935 1109 DTA_int_04 1359.0935 (pause 0.26) 1359.3544 1110 DTA_int_04 1359.3544 is there any other way that you could say that? 1360.9105 1111 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1362.4238 Eleven forty-five? 1363.4551 1112 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1363.4551 (pause 1.15) 1364.6032 1113 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1364.6032 Yeah, that's uh. 1365.7993 1114 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1365.7993 (pause 0.31) 1366.1044 1115 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1366.1044 Uh. 1366.5803 1116 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1366.5803 (pause 0.13) 1366.7146 1117 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1366.7146 Say fifteen minutes to twelve. 1368.1289 1118 DTA_int_04 1370.3872 Uh. Where you were young, when i- were there a bunch of guys that you hung around with, were your 1374.6338 1119 DTA_int_04 1374.6338 (pause 0.31) 1374.9450 1120 DTA_int_04 1374.9450 buddies or your pals? 1375.9981 1121 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1376.1105 Yeah. 1376.4868 1122 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1376.4868 (pause 0.95) 1377.4387 1123 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1377.4387 They lived on the adjacent streets. Uh, 1380.0168 1124 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1380.0168 (pause 0.41) 1380.4240 1125 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1380.4240 I lived on /RD-ADDRESS-/. 1381.4437 1126 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1381.4437 (pause 0.86) 1382.3041 1127 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1382.3041 They lived on Twenty-eighth, which is the next block over and- 1384.8680 1128 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1384.8680 (pause 0.17) 1385.0389 1129 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1385.0389 and Stanford. 1385.8358 1130 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1385.8358 (pause 0.12) 1385.9602 1131 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1385.9602 Which is a 1386.3875 1132 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1386.3875 (pause 0.27) 1386.6621 1133 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1386.6621 block over from that. 1387.4859 1134 DTA_int_04 1387.8459 Were they about the same age as you? [Or were] they older? 1390.4764 1135 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1389.4940 [Yes.] 1389.8662 1136 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1390.8792 They were about my age. 1391.6908 1137 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1391.6908 (pause 0.56) 1392.2483 1138 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1392.2483 Mm-hm. 1392.5168 1139 DTA_int_04 1393.0904 And um, 1393.7824 1140 DTA_int_04 1393.7824 (pause 0.78) 1394.5635 1141 DTA_int_04 1394.5635 do you still associate with any of those people? 1397.0251 1142 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1397.5743 No. I, uh, 1399.0327 1143 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1399.0327 (pause 0.13) 1399.1606 1144 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1399.1606 see one frequently. E- Uh. Not frequently. We 1402.0530 1145 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1402.0530 (pause 0.21) 1402.2666 1146 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1402.2666 visit 1402.8199 1147 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1402.8199 (pause 0.16) 1402.9846 1148 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1402.9846 infrequently. Now, by that 1404.4584 1149 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1404.4584 (pause 1.03) 1405.4836 1150 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1405.4836 every 1405.8619 1151 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1405.8619 (pause 0.51) 1406.3745 1152 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1406.3745 four or five months, he'll come by here 1408.7314 1153 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1408.7314 (pause 0.12) 1408.8473 1154 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1408.8473 and 1409.1097 1155 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1409.1097 (pause 0.10) 1409.2116 1156 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1409.2116 I'll go by, 1409.9044 1157 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1409.9044 (pause 0.08) 1409.9837 1158 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1409.9837 visit him. This is /RD-NAME-5/ 1411.7989 1159 DTA_int_04 1412.0357 Mm-hm. 1412.3469 1160 DTA_int_04 1412.3469 (pause 1.48) 1413.8236 1161 DTA_int_04 1413.8236 Um. Did any of these close friends in your group ever speak a- another language? 1418.1424 1162 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1418.4353 No. 1418.7588 1163 DTA_int_04 1418.9379 Did their parents speak any 1420.4576 1164 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1420.6345 No. 1420.9396 1165 DTA_int_04 1420.9946 other language? 1421.5254 1166 DTA_int_04 1421.5254 (pause 0.64) 1422.1633 1167 DTA_int_04 1422.1633 Were they only Negro children or were they 1424.2663 1168 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1424.3700 [These were ] all Negroes, yes. 1425.4800 1169 DTA_int_04 1424.3700 [white?] 1424.7502 1170 DTA_int_04 1425.6265 You only 1426.0477 1171 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1426.4015 [Mm-hm.] 1426.7371 1172 DTA_int_04 1426.4015 [Was the] area predominantly Negro [when you lived there?] 1429.0186 1173 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1428.5299 [Yes.] Mm-hm. 1429.3341 1174 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1429.8284 The school, I might say at the time, /RD-SCHOOL-2/, was, uh, mixed. Quite mixed. A matter of fact, I think it was more white than Negro there at the time. 1435.2826 1175 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1435.2826 (pause 0.73) 1436.0148 1176 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1436.0148 Cause this was back in the mid-thirties. 1437.4813 1177 DTA_int_04 1437.6216 Yeah. 1437.8291 1178 DTA_int_04 1437.8291 (pause 0.13) 1437.9573 1179 DTA_int_04 1437.9573 Mm-hm. 1438.2257 1180 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1438.4149 See. 1438.6773 1181 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1438.6773 (pause 0.60) 1439.2753 1182 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1439.2753 But uh, 1440.0564 1183 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1440.0564 (pause 0.89) 1440.9509 1184 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1440.9509 the area I lived in was a Negro neighborhood, 1443.2102 1185 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1443.2102 (pause 0.24) 1443.4542 1186 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1443.4542 and it was kind of surrounded by 1444.9415 1187 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1444.9415 (pause 0.34) 1445.2832 1188 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1445.2832 white community there. 1446.0948 1189 DTA_int_04 1446.3511 Mm-hm. 1446.7660 1190 DTA_int_04 1446.7660 (pause 0.34) 1447.1020 1191 DTA_int_04 1447.1020 So, then you mainly kept within- 1448.8053 1192 DTA_int_04 1448.8053 (pause 0.13) 1448.9335 1193 DTA_int_04 1448.9335 in your friend [group,] 1450.0167 1194 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1449.7573 [That's right. Yeah.] 1450.5872 1195 DTA_int_04 1450.3258 [place /associate/.] 1451.1729 1196 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1451.2462 That's right, yeah. 1451.9418 1197 DTA_int_04 1452.8032 Alright. 1453.0900 1198 DTA_int_04 1453.0900 (pause 0.49) 1453.5782 1199 DTA_int_04 1453.5782 Uh. Was there any one person in that bunch of guys that 1456.1855 1200 DTA_int_04 1456.1855 (pause 0.45) 1456.6323 1201 DTA_int_04 1456.6323 seemed to be the leader? 1457.5965 1202 DTA_int_04 1457.5965 (pause 0.43) 1458.0297 1203 DTA_int_04 1458.0297 Or everyone seemed to sort of agree with him or follow him if he had suggestions? 1462.1785 1204 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1466.0009 I guess, of all of us, I guess I tended to be more 1469.1130 1205 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1469.1130 (pause 0.86) 1469.9766 1206 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1469.9766 leader 1470.5775 1207 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1470.5775 (pause 0.26) 1470.8399 1208 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1470.8399 because uh, usually, is was at my instigation that we uh, 1473.5842 1209 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1473.5842 (pause 0.94) 1474.5266 1210 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1474.5266 were in these games, we were building this or doing this or that. 1477.4557 1211 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1477.4557 (pause 1.61) 1479.0615 1212 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1479.0615 I think of it. 1479.6107 1213 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1479.6107 (pause 0.23) 1479.8365 1214 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1479.8365 Hm. 1479.9890 1215 DTA_int_04 1480.3613 Can you think of any reasons why this might have been? 1482.5889 1216 DTA_int_04 1482.5889 (pause 1.27) 1483.8636 1217 DTA_int_04 1483.8636 I mean, did you have access to more things or 1486.1659 1218 DTA_int_04 1486.1659 (pause 0.73) 1486.8958 1219 DTA_int_04 1486.8958 /where you lived ?/? 1488.0164 1220 DTA_int_04 1488.0164 (pause 1.05) 1489.0627 1221 DTA_int_04 1489.0627 Your idea wo- 1489.7426 1222 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1490.7800 I think it's more just my ideas. Um. 1493.0573 1223 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1493.0573 (pause 0.62) 1493.6786 1224 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1493.6786 Um. 1494.2949 1225 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1494.2949 (pause 0.40) 1494.6915 1226 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1494.6915 There's no reason. 1495.6007 1227 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1495.6007 (pause 0.51) 1496.1153 1228 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1496.1153 As far as I was concerned, it uh, 1497.7201 1229 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1497.7201 (pause 1.13) 1498.8551 1230 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1498.8551 just happened that way. 1499.9840 1231 DTA_int_04 1500.9331 Mm-hm. Were they more around your house then or? 1503.2397 1232 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1503.3007 Yeah. 1503.5875 1233 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1503.5875 (pause 0.46) 1504.0452 1234 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1504.0452 Yeah, they tended to, uh, 1505.1846 1235 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1505.1846 (pause 0.48) 1505.6606 1236 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1505.6606 come over to my house. 1506.7158 1237 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1506.7158 (pause 0.85) 1507.5640 1238 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1507.5640 And, as I look back, I think my mother was as much responsible for this as uh, 1512.0186 1239 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1512.0186 (pause 1.19) 1513.2060 1240 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1513.2060 I wa- I mean, they were welcome to come around, play in the backyard and 1516.4045 1241 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1516.4045 (pause 0.65) 1517.0574 1242 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1517.0574 whatnot. 1517.3869 1243 DTA_int_04 1518.2777 And this was the- a way in which you fostered the group then anyway. 1521.1647 1244 DTA_int_04 1521.1647 (pause 0.37) 1521.5308 1245 DTA_int_04 1521.5308 They came with you. 1522.2752 1246 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1524.4964 Yes. Uh. 1525.4727 1247 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1525.4727 (pause 0.34) 1525.8144 1248 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1525.8144 I- well, I'm the first one to introduce 'em- I guess maybe I read more than they did. 1529.6026 1249 DTA_int_04 1529.7828 Uh-huh. 1530.0279 1250 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1529.9626 And that, um, 1530.7193 1251 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1530.9878 I'd go to library 1532.1411 1252 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1532.1411 (pause 0.34) 1532.4767 1253 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1532.4767 and uh, I'd read about 1533.8497 1254 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1533.8497 (pause 0.66) 1534.5087 1255 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1534.5087 these different, uh, things that we could make or do. 1536.7916 1256 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1536.7916 (pause 0.19) 1536.9807 1257 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1536.9807 And I'd come back and I'd wanna do 'em, and uh, 1539.0992 1258 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1539.0992 (pause 0.14) 1539.2395 1259 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1539.2395 and then they'd become interested, as- as a result, 1541.6872 1260 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1541.6872 (pause 0.35) 1542.0350 1261 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1542.0350 and so we did 'em. 1542.6757 1262 DTA_int_04 1543.0602 Mm-hm. 1543.2554 1263 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1543.7809 Making. 1544.2113 1264 DTA_int_04 1544.2440 Um. 1544.5369 1265 DTA_int_04 1544.5369 (pause 0.91) 1545.4507 1266 DTA_int_04 1545.4507 How would a new friend join your group? 1547.2569 1267 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1549.2646 Eh. 1549.5269 1268 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1549.5269 (pause 0.60) 1550.1311 1269 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1550.1311 If he moved into the neighborhood, uh, usually, you know how kids are at first. You look at each other, not saying too much. 1554.9573 1270 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1554.9573 (pause 0.69) 1555.6469 1271 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1555.6469 But after that, um, 1556.8185 1272 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1556.8185 (pause 0.74) 1557.5604 1273 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1557.5604 they'd come right in, practically. 1559.0798 1274 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1559.0798 (pause 0.66) 1559.7386 1275 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1559.7386 Just be, uh, he'd probably meet one of the 1562.4479 1276 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1562.4479 (pause 0.69) 1563.1346 1277 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1563.1346 kids and uh 1563.9674 1278 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1563.9674 (pause 0.59) 1564.5536 1279 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1564.5536 and then the kid would bring him around and introduce him to all of us. 1566.8419 1280 DTA_int_04 1567.6718 When you were young, 1568.6298 1281 DTA_int_04 1568.6298 (pause 0.29) 1568.9227 1282 DTA_int_04 1568.9227 what did you 1569.6920 1283 DTA_int_04 1569.6920 (pause 0.23) 1569.9239 1284 DTA_int_04 1569.9239 hope to be, or what was your age? What did you wanna [do?] 1572.6877 1285 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1572.5661 [I] wanted to be an aeronautical engineer. 1574.0367 1286 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1574.7507 When I was real young. 1575.6052 1287 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1575.6052 (pause 0.15) 1575.7577 1288 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1575.7577 This is what I wanted to be. 1576.8050 1289 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1576.8050 (pause 0.12) 1576.9294 1290 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1576.9294 The uh, 1577.5090 1291 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1577.5090 (pause 0.43) 1577.9423 1292 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1577.9423 yeah. 1578.2047 1293 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1578.2047 (pause 1.20) 1579.4072 1294 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1579.4072 And. [Uh.] 1579.9015 1295 DTA_int_04 1579.6879 [Yeah.] And uh, 1580.6154 1296 DTA_int_04 1581.2744 how is it that you happened to get into dentistry? 1583.5370 1297 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1584.6049 Well, I went into uh. I wanted to be aeronautical engineer as I said, and I went to, uh, 1588.8356 1298 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1588.8356 (pause 0.68) 1589.5190 1299 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1589.5190 Technical school here in Detroit, at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1591.9146 1300 DTA_int_04 1592.3601 Mm-hm. 1592.6591 1301 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1592.8665 And took the aeromechanical. 1594.5019 1302 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1594.5019 (pause 0.21) 1594.7155 1303 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1594.7155 /Aerolatal/ program, they call it. 1596.3357 1304 DTA_int_04 1596.4639 Mm-hm. 1596.6775 1305 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1598.0382 Um. 1598.5203 1306 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1598.5203 (pause 1.16) 1599.6828 1307 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1599.6828 1599.7560 1308 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1599.7560 (pause 0.65) 1600.4089 1309 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1600.4089 I 1600.8239 1310 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1600.8239 (pause 0.36) 1601.1839 1311 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1601.1839 was drafted 1602.0626 1312 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1602.0626 (pause 0.29) 1602.3494 1313 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1602.3494 into the army. And I have a weak right eye, 1603.9336 1314 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1603.9336 (pause 0.14) 1604.0731 1315 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1604.0731 and I couldn't get into the Air Force. 1605.6809 1316 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1605.6809 (pause 1.25) 1606.9324 1317 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1606.9324 So, uh, with all this R-O-T-C training I had, I was put into a- 1610.5253 1318 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1610.5253 (pause 0.68) 1611.2027 1319 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1611.2027 the army 1611.8495 1320 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1611.8495 (pause 0.55) 1612.3984 1321 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1612.3984 and uh, he used to train me into a 1614.3023 1322 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1614.3023 (pause 0.64) 1614.9430 1323 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1614.9430 fight. 1615.3519 1324 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1615.3519 (pause 1.47) 1616.8210 1325 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1616.8210 And um, 1617.5227 1326 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1617.5227 (pause 0.98) 1618.5052 1327 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1618.5052 but they had me on limited service because of this weak eye. 1620.7014 1328 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1620.7014 (pause 0.51) 1621.2140 1329 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1621.2140 Well, a- as for this- was during World War Two. 1623.5389 1330 DTA_int_04 1623.9512 Mm-hm. 1624.1770 1331 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1624.6103 Well, 1624.9703 1332 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1624.9703 (pause 0.56) 1625.5317 1333 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1625.5317 at the time that, um, 1626.8559 1334 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1626.8559 (pause 0.51) 1627.3623 1335 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1627.3623 I was ready for discharge, they had me in a separation center, 1630.1037 1336 DTA_int_04 1630.5858 Mm-hm. 1630.9458 1337 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1631.3729 and, um, 1632.0808 1338 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1632.0808 (pause 1.37) 1633.4538 1339 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1633.4538 I- um, 1634.0484 1340 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1634.0484 (pause 0.73) 1634.7807 1341 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1634.7807 they didn't know what to do with me at the time. So, uh, 1637.0141 1342 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1637.0141 (pause 0.58) 1637.5938 1343 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1637.5938 they 1637.8463 1344 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1637.8463 (pause 0.11) 1637.9570 1345 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1637.9570 put me over in the dental clinic. 1639.2486 1346 DTA_int_04 1639.3646 Oh. 1639.6392 1347 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1639.8771 Yeah. 1640.1639 1348 DTA_int_04 1640.4141 Mm-hm. 1640.7498 1349 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1640.8047 They help around over there, so. 1642.3241 1350 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1642.3241 (pause 0.54) 1642.8672 1351 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1642.8672 I got interested in dentistry. 1644.1622 1352 DTA_int_04 1644.2598 Mm-hm. 1644.5039 1353 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1644.7358 I really liked it. 1645.4558 1354 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1645.4558 (pause 0.60) 1646.0538 1355 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1646.0538 So, I got out of the army and went into dentistry. 1648.6204 1356 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1648.6204 (pause 0.27) 1648.8950 1357 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1648.8950 So. 1649.1025 1358 DTA_int_04 1649.6212 I see. 1650.0390 1359 DTA_int_04 1650.0390 (pause 0.86) 1650.8981 1360 DTA_int_04 1650.8981 Um. If you could do it all over again, what do you think you would do? 1653.4980 1361 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1655.5721 I'd go into dentistry. 1656.6295 1362 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1656.6295 (pause 0.35) 1656.9773 1363 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1656.9773 I love it. 1657.4533 1364 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1657.4533 (pause 0.55) 1658.0025 1365 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1658.0025 Yeah. 1658.3259 1366 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1658.3259 (pause 0.80) 1659.1288 1367 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1659.1288 [Yeah.] 1659.4522 1368 DTA_int_04 1659.2569 [/inaudible/] 1660.0448 1369 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1660.5994 Yeah. 1660.8740 1370 DTA_int_04 1660.8740 If uh, somebody came by and they said, uh, here's 1663.3032 1371 DTA_int_04 1663.3032 (pause 0.47) 1663.7760 1372 DTA_int_04 1663.7760 all this money, 1664.4809 1373 DTA_int_04 1664.4809 (pause 0.74) 1665.2222 1374 DTA_int_04 1665.2222 as much as you want, 1666.0340 1375 DTA_int_04 1666.0340 (pause 0.16) 1666.1955 1376 DTA_int_04 1666.1955 what would you do with it? 1666.9460 1377 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1668.6036 1668.7195 1378 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1668.7195 (pause 1.65) 1670.3671 1379 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1670.3671 Well, I think I'd break it down, first of all. Uh. 1673.1441 1380 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1673.1441 (pause 0.51) 1673.6567 1381 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1673.6567 I'd donate a large part of it to the, uh, civil rights movement. 1676.4059 1382 DTA_int_04 1677.0197 Mm-hm. 1677.3187 1383 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1678.1608 Yeah, I'd probably- I'd donate to the- 1679.9731 1384 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1679.9731 (pause 0.23) 1680.2050 1385 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1680.2050 myself and family. That is a trip to Japan, which I intend to do anyway. Japan and- 1684.3270 1386 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1684.3270 (pause 0.49) 1684.8152 1387 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1684.8152 and then I'd like to go to South America and Brazil and I'd like to go to Africa. 1688.2027 1388 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1688.2027 (pause 0.42) 1688.6238 1389 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1688.6238 And- uh, 1689.3377 1390 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1689.3377 (pause 0.15) 1689.4903 1391 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1689.4903 and also Europe. 1690.4422 1392 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1690.4422 (pause 0.18) 1690.6253 1393 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1690.6253 I've studied French and whatnot and I'd like to 1692.5463 1394 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1692.5463 (pause 0.27) 1692.8150 1395 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1692.8150 in spite of the anti-American (laughing) attitudes, et cetera. I'd like to, uh, 1696.1465 1396 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1696.1465 (pause 0.71) 1696.8605 1397 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1696.8605 go to France. 1697.7225 1398 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1697.7225 (pause 1.04) 1698.7660 1399 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1698.7660 Um. I like traveling. Love it. I have a trailer. 1700.8259 1400 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1700.8259 (pause 0.72) 1701.5444 1401 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1701.5444 And 1701.8739 1402 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1701.8739 (pause 0.27) 1702.1424 1403 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1702.1424 we don't stay home 1703.0334 1404 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1703.0334 (pause 0.13) 1703.1615 1405 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1703.1615 long at all. We're gone. 1704.9433 1406 DTA_int_04 1704.8030 [/?/] Have you ever traveled out of the states. 1706.7878 1407 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1707.7538 No, other than 1708.4678 1408 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1708.4678 (pause 0.48) 1708.9437 1409 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1708.9437 Canada. 1709.4685 1410 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1709.4685 (pause 0.55) 1710.0224 1411 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1710.0224 But, yeah. But not abroad. 1711.3700 1412 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1711.3700 (pause 0.61) 1711.9802 1413 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1711.9802 /Any other sense of the word/. 1712.9215 1414 DTA_int_04 1713.6660 Um, 1714.0016 1415 DTA_int_04 1714.0016 (pause 1.33) 1715.3319 1416 DTA_int_04 1715.3319 can you tell me just 1716.1922 1417 DTA_int_04 1716.1922 (pause 0.55) 1716.7386 1418 DTA_int_04 1716.7386 maybe like a day's or what you do during 1718.8466 1419 DTA_int_04 1718.8466 (pause 0.16) 1719.0114 1420 DTA_int_04 1719.0114 one day's work? 1719.7375 1421 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1721.8977 Well, 1722.3188 1422 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1722.3188 (pause 0.39) 1722.7093 1423 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1722.7093 I'm part time 1723.7816 1424 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1723.7816 (pause 0.46) 1724.2423 1425 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1724.2423 I'm a part time dentist, uh, at /RD-WORK-7/, in charge of dentistry there. 1728.1111 1426 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1728.1111 (pause 0.55) 1728.6603 1427 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1728.6603 And I have my own private practice. 1730.3445 1428 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1730.3445 (pause 0.98) 1731.3277 1429 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1731.3277 Um, 1731.7915 1430 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1731.7915 (pause 1.08) 1732.8716 1431 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1732.8716 two, 1733.4086 1432 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1733.4086 (pause 0.19) 1733.5977 1433 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1733.5977 three days a week 1734.5070 1434 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1734.5070 (pause 0.61) 1735.1167 1435 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1735.1167 I'll go over there in the mornings, 1736.8099 1436 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1736.8099 (pause 0.41) 1737.2161 1437 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1737.2161 /RD-WORK-4/ and then I'll leave there and go over to my office 1739.5532 1438 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1739.5532 (pause 1.04) 1740.5967 1439 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1740.5967 and take care of patients. 1741.8150 1440 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1741.8150 (pause 0.77) 1742.5860 1441 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1742.5860 And, um, 1743.2084 1442 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1743.2084 (pause 0.38) 1743.5929 1443 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1743.5929 general dentistry is what I do. 1745.0571 1444 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1745.0571 (pause 0.82) 1745.8809 1445 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1745.8809 Uh, 1746.3935 1446 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1746.3935 (pause 0.51) 1746.9000 1447 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1746.9000 three evenings a week, 1748.0598 1448 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1748.0598 (pause 0.13) 1748.1940 1449 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1748.1940 I'm in the office. 1749.0605 1450 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1749.0605 (pause 1.80) 1750.8607 1451 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1750.8607 And on Saturdays, I'm in the office. 1752.5950 1452 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1752.5950 (pause 1.06) 1753.6567 1453 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1753.6567 So, uh, 1754.5782 1454 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1754.5782 (pause 0.52) 1755.1029 1455 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1755.1029 when I get these little free day- fact, when I can put a few days together, then 1758.9702 1456 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1758.9702 (pause 0.15) 1759.1212 1457 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1759.1212 we take off. 1759.9820 1458 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1759.9820 (pause 0.91) 1760.8881 1459 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1760.8881 Yeah. 1761.1993 1460 DTA_int_04 1761.2481 It's sort of regular, I [guess.] 1762.8023 1461 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1762.6254 [Yeah.] 1763.0098 1462 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1763.3698 I try as much as possible, [yeah.] 1764.7123 1463 DTA_int_04 1764.5475 [What] do they call this area of town here? 1766.4453 1464 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1767.8820 This is the Martin Park Area. 1769.4686 1465 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1769.4686 (pause 0.43) 1769.8983 1466 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1769.8983 In- in as far as the neighborhood. 1771.6274 1467 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1771.6274 (pause 0.49) 1772.1217 1468 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1772.1217 Uh. 1772.4207 1469 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1772.4207 (pause 0.81) 1773.2328 1470 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1773.2328 1773.2856 1471 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1773.2856 (pause 0.55) 1773.8364 1472 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1773.8364 University area in terms of the city, 1775.9005 1473 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1775.9005 (pause 0.26) 1776.1629 1474 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1776.1629 because it's located near the, uh, U of D. /The/ 1778.5215 1475 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1778.5215 (pause 0.25) 1778.7717 1476 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1778.7717 post office would call their 1779.9372 1477 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1779.9372 (pause 0.51) 1780.4437 1478 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1780.4437 the post office University Branch, uh. The Bank of Commonwealth calls their bank the University Branch. 1785.3640 1479 DTA_int_04 1785.6508 What would then be the bro- boundaries of this area then? 1788.2626 1480 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1790.3800 I don't know what the University area, but the Martin Park Area would en- encompass- uh, 1794.8780 1481 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1794.8780 (pause 1.01) 1795.8849 1482 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1795.8849 Martin Park Association encompasses, uh, 1798.1487 1483 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1798.1487 (pause 0.76) 1798.9068 1484 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1798.9068 Six Mile 1799.7672 1485 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1799.7672 (pause 0.34) 1800.1103 1486 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1800.1103 on the west 1800.9463 1487 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1800.9463 (pause 0.85) 1801.7944 1488 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1801.7944 to- um, 1802.8073 1489 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1802.8073 (pause 0.61) 1803.4174 1490 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1803.4174 I'm sorry. 1804.0520 1491 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1804.0520 (pause 0.35) 1804.3999 1492 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1804.3999 Uh, Livernois on the west. 1805.6335 1493 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1805.6335 (pause 0.33) 1805.9630 1494 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1805.9630 Six Mile on the north. 1807.2505 1495 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1807.2505 (pause 0.42) 1807.6710 1496 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1807.6710 On back through, um, 1808.7633 1497 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1808.7633 (pause 1.55) 1810.3142 1498 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1810.3142 uh, Log Cabin 1811.4553 1499 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1811.4553 (pause 0.84) 1812.2912 1500 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1812.2912 on the uh, east. 1813.6947 1501 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1813.6947 (pause 0.36) 1814.0537 1502 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1814.0537 And down to Puritan 1815.2436 1503 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1815.2436 (pause 0.20) 1815.4389 1504 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1815.4389 on the South. 1816.3137 1505 DTA_int_04 1817.6500 And what do you call the whole area? 1819.0362 1506 DTA_int_04 1819.0362 (pause 0.32) 1819.3596 1507 DTA_int_04 1819.3596 This whole city, urban area? 1820.6898 1508 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1823.9294 I don't know. Um. 1825.1437 1509 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1825.1437 (pause 0.16) 1825.3085 1510 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1825.3085 F- my subdivision is Ford Park if you're speaking of [uh. Yeah.] 1828.4676 1511 DTA_int_04 1828.0222 [But I mean] the entire city. 1829.1999 1512 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1830.3241 Oh. The entire city? 1831.2333 1513 DTA_int_04 1831.2415 Yeah. 1831.4734 1514 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1831.7968 If you were speaking of it in terms of what now? 1833.5115 1515 DTA_int_04 1833.5603 What would you call it? The name of it? 1834.9763 1516 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1836.5736 [Detroit?] 1837.0679 1517 DTA_int_04 1836.5736 [/?/] 1836.8594 1518 DTA_int_04 1837.5500 Yeah. Pardon? 1838.2883 1519 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1838.5141 Detroit. 1839.0238 1520 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1839.0238 (pause 0.43) 1839.4538 1521 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1839.4538 [Oh I see. You wanna ge- see how I pronounce it, yeah. Oh I've- I've got you. Okay. 1842.8681 1522 DTA_int_04 1839.4538 [/inaudible/] 1843.1732 1523 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1843.4539 Yeah. Detroit. [As it is.] 1844.5803 1524 DTA_int_04 1844.2203 [Uh. What are] some of the main streets? You mentioned Livernois, but say the other names for [/inaudible/.] 1848.2757 1525 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1848.1286 [Well,] it would be Woodward. 1849.1300 1526 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1849.8195 Gratiot. 1850.3773 1527 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1850.3773 (pause 0.85) 1851.2316 1528 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1851.2316 Um. 1851.8479 1529 DTA_int_04 1852.5213 What about [down-] 1853.0827 1530 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1852.7837 [Grand] River. Hm? 1853.6929 1531 DTA_int_04 1854.3153 What about down by Cobo Hall? 1855.6856 1532 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1856.9920 Um. 1857.5229 1533 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1857.5229 (pause 0.31) 1857.8341 1534 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1857.8341 Well, there's Jefferson. 1858.8554 1535 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1858.8554 (pause 0.95) 1859.8078 1536 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1859.8078 Then there's Larend. 1860.9813 1537 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1860.9813 (pause 0.42) 1861.4028 1538 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1861.4028 Then there's, uh, 1862.4275 1539 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1862.4275 (pause 0.85) 1863.2726 1540 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1863.2726 Lafayette. 1863.8279 1541 DTA_int_04 1864.4909 One begins with uh, an F. 1866.0592 1542 DTA_int_04 1866.0592 (pause 1.02) 1867.0834 1543 DTA_int_04 1867.0834 Over by Cobo Hall. 1868.0842 1544 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1868.8957 Fort. 1869.3351 1545 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1869.3351 (pause 0.91) 1870.2421 1546 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1870.2421 Fort Street. Yeah. 1871.0781 1547 DTA_int_04 1871.7127 What about the expressways? The Freeway? 1873.5189 1548 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1874.9398 What do I call them? 1875.8673 1549 DTA_int_04 1875.9168 Yeah. 1876.1670 1550 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1876.3428 You mean name them? 1877.1056 1551 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1877.1056 (pause 0.83) 1877.9380 1552 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1877.9380 Uh. Well there's a John C. Lodge. 1879.7144 1553 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1879.7144 (pause 0.59) 1880.3002 1554 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1880.3002 And there's a, 1880.8311 1555 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1880.8311 (pause 0.30) 1881.1323 1556 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1881.1323 uh, 1881.5046 1557 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1881.5046 (pause 0.40) 1881.9073 1558 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1881.9073 Chrysler 1882.4506 1559 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1882.4506 (pause 0.22) 1882.6703 1560 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1882.6703 Freeway. Walter P Chrysler, I guess. 1884.4399 1561 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1884.4399 (pause 0.67) 1885.1135 1562 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1885.1135 There's the, um, 1886.0960 1563 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1886.0960 (pause 1.12) 1887.2127 1564 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1887.2127 Ford. 1887.7595 1565 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1887.7595 (pause 0.11) 1887.8726 1566 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1887.8726 Edsel Ford 1888.6218 1567 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1888.6218 (pause 0.69) 1889.3098 1568 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1889.3098 Freeway. 1889.7736 1569 DTA_int_04 1890.5925 Okay. 1890.8610 1570 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1890.8610 And Davidson. [] 1891.9566 1571 DTA_int_04 1891.6604 [] Thank you. 1892.5350 1572 DTA_int_04 1892.9574 Uh. Where were you born? 1893.8727 1573 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1894.2205 Detroit. Here. 1894.9184 1574 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1894.9184 (pause 0.17) 1895.0907 1575 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1895.0907 Mm-hm. 1895.3409 1576 DTA_int_04 1895.3409 And have you lived outside of Detroit? 1897.1215 1577 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1898.0307 Only during- well, I was in the army and while I was in school. 1900.7703 1578 DTA_int_04 1901.4346 And then during the army service, where were you? 1903.3581 1579 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1904.2063 I was at, uh, 1905.3169 1580 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1905.3169 (pause 0.78) 1906.0997 1581 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1906.0997 Camp Lee, Virginia, 1907.2714 1582 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1907.2714 (pause 0.70) 1907.9711 1583 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1907.9711 Camp Plauche, Louisiana. 1909.6093 1584 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1909.6093 (pause 1.18) 1910.7931 1585 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1910.7931 Um. 1911.4339 1586 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1911.4339 (pause 1.33) 1912.7620 1587 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1912.7620 Camp Elis, Illinois. 1913.9214 1588 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1913.9214 (pause 0.48) 1914.3974 1589 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1914.3974 Camp Atterbury, Indiana. 1915.6511 1590 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1915.6511 (pause 0.61) 1916.2613 1591 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1916.2613 And 1916.6811 1592 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1916.6811 (pause 0.14) 1916.8215 1593 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1916.8215 one other, 1917.3902 1594 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1917.3902 (pause 0.12) 1917.5061 1595 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1917.5061 was the- 1917.9943 1596 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1917.9943 (pause 0.19) 1918.1834 1597 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1918.1834 i- was the induction center, uh. 1919.8705 1598 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1919.8705 (pause 0.73) 1920.5967 1599 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1920.5967 Um. 1921.1153 1600 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1921.1153 (pause 0.40) 1921.5181 1601 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1921.5181 Fort Sheridan, Illinois. 1922.7238 1602 DTA_int_04 1924.4080 Uh. Where have you gone on trips? 1925.8402 1603 DTA_int_04 1925.8402 (pause 0.55) 1926.3885 1604 DTA_int_04 1926.3885 Some of the places. 1927.2406 1605 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1928.6216 I've gone to Los Angeles. 1929.8420 1606 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1929.8420 (pause 1.65) 1931.4887 1607 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1931.4887 Um. 1931.9869 1608 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1931.9869 (pause 0.28) 1932.2676 1609 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1932.2676 This past year, 1933.2928 1610 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1933.2928 (pause 0.82) 1934.1105 1611 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1934.1105 we uh, traveled east, 1935.3616 1612 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1935.3616 (pause 0.81) 1936.1732 1613 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1936.1732 uh, to New York. 1937.1129 1614 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1937.1129 (pause 0.49) 1937.6065 1615 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1937.6065 Cape Cod. 1938.2655 1616 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1938.2655 (pause 0.76) 1939.0231 1617 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1939.0231 And on up through uh, Maine. 1940.2731 1618 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1940.2731 (pause 0.44) 1940.7125 1619 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1940.7125 And on up 1941.2128 1620 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1941.2128 (pause 0.32) 1941.5363 1621 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1941.5363 into Canada, and down through the St. Lawrence River. 1943.8400 1622 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1943.8400 (pause 0.46) 1944.2976 1623 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1944.2976 Right along the, um, 1945.3167 1624 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1945.3167 (pause 0.23) 1945.5515 1625 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1945.5515 1945.6247 1626 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1945.6247 (pause 0.24) 1945.8653 1627 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1945.8653 St. Lawrence River, and 1946.7597 1628 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1946.7597 (pause 0.62) 1947.3786 1629 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1947.3786 on back home. 1947.9461 1630 DTA_int_04 1948.2792 Good. 1948.5110 1631 DTA_int_04 1948.5110 (pause 0.21) 1948.7246 1632 DTA_int_04 1948.7246 Good. 1948.9321 1633 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1949.0699 [Yeah.] 1949.3018 1634 DTA_int_04 1949.0699 [You were up] through my area then. 1950.2842 1635 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1950.5649 Oh yeah? 1950.9860 1636 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1950.9860 (pause 0.67) 1951.6546 1637 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1951.6546 Huh. 1951.9658 1638 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1951.9658 (pause 0.37) 1952.3378 1639 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1952.3378 [So beautiful.] 1953.1433 1640 DTA_int_04 1952.4171 [How do you usually] celebrate the holidays? 1954.2844 1641 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1955.7672 In the past, uh, 1956.9284 1642 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1956.9284 (pause 1.42) 1958.3512 1643 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1958.3512 yeah, 1958.5952 1644 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1958.5952 (pause 0.46) 1959.0529 1645 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1959.0529 we got a flag we hang out and uh. 1961.4992 1646 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1961.4992 (pause 0.43) 1961.9324 1647 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1961.9324 In- uh, in the past, 1963.3542 1648 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1963.3542 (pause 0.48) 1963.8302 1649 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1963.8302 it's been- w- we've stayed at home 1965.4991 1650 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1965.4991 (pause 0.36) 1965.8582 1651 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1965.8582 on the holidays because of well, 1968.1221 1652 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1968.1221 (pause 1.10) 1969.2198 1653 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1969.2198 the highway traffic, um 1970.9103 1654 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1970.9103 (pause 0.55) 1971.4629 1655 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1971.4629 problem. 1971.9205 1656 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1971.9205 (pause 1.04) 1972.9640 1657 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1972.9640 But since I got this trailer we're gone on holidays. We usually leave before the rush. Being a dentist, I can do this. 1978.4039 1658 DTA_int_04 1978.4283 [Mm-hm.] 1978.7762 1659 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1978.6297 [Su-] Arrange it. 1979.6915 1660 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1980.1003 Uh. We leave before the rush 1981.4451 1661 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1981.4451 (pause 0.17) 1981.6159 1662 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1981.6159 and come back after. 1982.6167 1663 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1982.6167 (pause 0.43) 1983.0438 1664 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1983.0438 Uh, this, uh, Fourth of July, coming up, I plan of taking off Thursday. 1986.8571 1665 DTA_int_04 1987.2394 [Mm-hm.] 1987.5018 1666 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1987.4307 [And] we'll be gone, and I'll come back Tuesday. So, it's uh. We got it all to ourselves. 1991.2576 1667 DTA_int_04 1991.3402 Uh. What about Christmas? 1992.4113 1668 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1993.1282 1993.1892 1669 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1993.1892 (pause 0.77) 1993.9637 1670 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1993.9637 Um, 1994.3992 1671 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1994.3992 (pause 0.22) 1994.6166 1672 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1994.6166 usually, we have uh, 1996.2825 1673 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1996.2825 (pause 0.43) 1996.7158 1674 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1996.7158 dinner at my 1997.8858 1675 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1997.8858 (pause 0.25) 1998.1360 1676 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1998.1360 mother's or 1998.8255 1677 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1998.8255 (pause 0.32) 1999.1414 1678 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 1999.1414 uh, they're here. 2000.1680 1679 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2000.1680 (pause 0.12) 2000.2855 1680 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2000.2855 Or, I'm at /RD-NAME-2/'s 2001.3961 1681 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2001.3961 (pause 0.12) 2001.5182 1682 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2001.5182 my wife's mother's 2002.4947 1683 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2002.4947 (pause 0.91) 2003.4025 1684 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2003.4025 uh, 2003.7395 1685 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2003.7395 (pause 0.30) 2004.0394 1686 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2004.0394 house. 2004.4421 1687 DTA_int_04 2004.6191 Mm-hm. 2004.8448 1688 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2005.2492 Um. 2005.5954 1689 DTA_int_04 2005.8075 Uh. What did you do when you were a kid around the end of October? 2008.7692 1690 DTA_int_04 2008.7692 (pause 1.36) 2010.1286 1691 DTA_int_04 2010.1286 One evening. 2010.8395 1692 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2011.6801 Mm. Halloween? 2012.5053 1693 DTA_int_04 2012.6182 Yeah. 2012.7951 1694 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2013.2235 We were devils. 2013.9957 1695 DTA_int_04 2014.1492 2014.8265 1696 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2015.2391 [Used to ra-] 2015.9531 1697 DTA_int_04 2015.2391 [/inaudible/] 2015.8944 1698 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2016.6732 But, we never did any of the pranks that, 2018.3420 1699 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2018.3420 (pause 0.09) 2018.4274 1700 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2018.4274 uh, people do now. We used to take this old photographic film 2021.1120 1701 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2021.1120 (pause 0.56) 2021.6673 1702 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2021.6673 and wrap it up and 2022.6544 1703 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2022.6544 (pause 0.20) 2022.8589 1704 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2022.8589 make what we call stench bombs. 2024.4662 1705 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2024.4662 (pause 0.50) 2024.9666 1706 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2024.9666 And we'd light it 2025.6195 1707 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2025.6195 (pause 0.34) 2025.9630 1708 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2025.9630 and put it on a person's porch and ring their bell and then run and on hide 2029.4414 1709 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2029.4414 (pause 0.16) 2029.6046 1710 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2029.6046 so we could see. And they'd open the door, and if you've smelled that stuff burning, it's horrible. 2033.9543 1711 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2033.9543 (pause 0.64) 2034.5950 1712 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2034.5950 What this didn't hurt [anyone.] I mean it [was, i-] people got mad. 2038.1870 1713 DTA_int_04 2035.8717 [Yeah.] 2036.0822 1714 DTA_int_04 2036.0822 (pause 0.60) 2036.6863 1715 DTA_int_04 2036.6863 [Yeah.] 2036.8816 1716 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2039.1145 Uh, we used to take, uh, thin line 2041.3620 1717 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2041.3620 (pause 1.02) 2042.3847 1718 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2042.3847 and, um, 2043.1611 1719 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2043.1611 (pause 1.37) 2044.5313 1720 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2044.5313 connect it across the side walk between two large uh. 2047.2324 1721 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2047.2324 (pause 0.25) 2047.4826 1722 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2047.4826 bottles of water, something, 2049.1576 1723 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2049.1576 (pause 0.46) 2049.6162 1724 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2049.6162 and a person walking by at night would 2051.4600 1725 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2051.4600 (pause 0.21) 2051.6675 1726 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2051.6675 kick it and 2052.7720 1727 DTA_int_04 2052.9795 [] 2053.3212 1728 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2053.0588 [water] would wet their feet up. 2054.5640 1729 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2055.1864 [Used to-] 2055.4427 1730 DTA_int_04 2055.3329 [Uh.] 2055.6746 1731 DTA_int_04 2056.6873 What did you say if you rang the doorbell and you wanted uh, some of the candy in [there?] 2060.3150 1732 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2060.0892 [Trick] or treat. 2060.8509 1733 DTA_int_04 2061.2903 [/That it/] what you ever said? 2062.4117 1734 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2061.3468 [Yeah.] 2061.8350 1735 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2062.8097 [Huh?] 2062.9989 1736 DTA_int_04 2062.8219 [Did you] say anything else? 2063.6457 1737 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2064.0241 Uh. 2064.5122 1738 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2064.5122 (pause 1.63) 2066.1459 1739 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2066.1459 What else? There used to be a rhyme. 2067.7716 1740 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2067.7716 (pause 2.17) 2069.9396 1741 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2069.9396 Uh. 2070.3180 1742 DTA_int_04 2070.4571 Something about /death's door?/ 2071.7080 1743 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2072.7795 I can't remember it. 2073.6400 1744 DTA_int_04 2073.8435 /?/ 2074.2963 1745 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2074.7161 No. 2075.0273 1746 DTA_int_04 2075.1950 Okay. Um. 2076.0310 1747 DTA_int_04 2076.0310 (pause 0.65) 2076.6839 1748 DTA_int_04 2076.6839 What were those big orange things that they might [have around] the house? 2079.1401 1749 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2078.3086 [Hi.] 2078.5360 1750 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2079.3612 Pumpkins? 2079.9456 1751 DTA_int_04 2080.1470 Yeah. 2080.4643 1752 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2080.5680 Yeah. 2080.8976 1753 DTA_int_04 2081.0180 And um, what about the 2082.1529 1754 DTA_int_04 2082.1529 (pause 0.12) 2082.2689 1755 DTA_int_04 2082.2689 woman all dressed in black and rides a broom? 2084.3840 1756 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2084.6819 /Nuh./ 2085.1285 1757 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2085.1285 (pause 0.54) 2085.6641 1758 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2085.6641 A witch? [] 2087.1361 1759 DTA_int_04 2086.4222 [/I think a/ witch] would be fine. 2087.7829 1760 DTA_int_04 2088.4908 When you were a kid, um, 2089.7198 1761 DTA_int_04 2089.7198 (pause 0.38) 2090.0973 1762 DTA_int_04 2090.0973 what did thing- uh, what did the fights usually start about? 2092.7727 1763 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2096.1443 Golly. It's hard- 2097.2670 1764 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2097.2670 (pause 1.35) 2098.6217 1765 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2098.6217 it's hard to really say. Uh. Some kid trying to take another kid's marbles. 2103.5838 1766 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2103.5838 (pause 2.00) 2105.5792 1767 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2105.5792 Um. 2106.0973 1768 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2106.0973 (pause 2.31) 2108.4068 1769 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2108.4068 And maybe the instigation of some older boys. I don't know. It- uh. 2112.9209 1770 DTA_int_04 2113.5006 Did you ever see any real 2114.6551 1771 DTA_int_04 2114.6551 (pause 0.15) 2114.8015 1772 DTA_int_04 2114.8015 tough fights? 2115.2754 1773 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2116.3738 Yeah. I've seen some tough ones in my time. 2118.0519 1774 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2118.0519 (pause 0.22) 2118.2696 1775 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2118.2696 Yeah. 2118.5014 1776 DTA_int_04 2119.7217 Can you ever tell me about any one of the ones that you might have seen or might have [been in?] 2123.6299 1777 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2123.2637 [Well, there] was this, uh, 2124.8503 1778 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2125.5337 boy that they called Butch. 2127.0903 1779 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2127.0903 (pause 0.95) 2128.0361 1780 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2128.0361 And he was, uh 2129.3624 1781 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2129.3624 (pause 0.11) 2129.4680 1782 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2129.4680 kind of a rough kid, and then there was another rough kid called Little John. And this is- was just uh, natural, 2134.5154 1783 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2134.5154 (pause 0.76) 2135.2766 1784 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2135.2766 you know, that it should occur. 2136.5181 1785 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2136.5181 (pause 0.37) 2136.8846 1786 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2136.8846 They lived in two different parts of- 2138.5501 1787 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2138.5501 (pause 0.61) 2139.1604 1788 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2139.1604 Little John, I think went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, which is a- 2141.9047 1789 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2141.9047 (pause 0.20) 2142.1002 1790 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2142.1002 another 2142.4556 1791 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2142.4556 (pause 0.09) 2142.5411 1792 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2142.5411 elementary school. 2143.4970 1793 DTA_int_04 2143.6923 Mm-hm. 2143.9072 1794 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2143.9072 And Butch went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 2145.0592 1795 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2145.6572 And this fight occurred and it was a doozy of a fight. 2148.0016 1796 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2148.0016 (pause 0.25) 2148.2518 1797 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2148.2518 And. 2149.1732 1798 DTA_int_04 2149.9244 What did they fight with? 2150.8158 1799 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2151.9686 They fought with fists. 2152.9232 1800 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2152.9232 (pause 0.11) 2153.0300 1801 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2153.0300 They didn't uh. No, it wasn't, uh, 2154.8448 1802 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2154.8448 (pause 0.53) 2155.3728 1803 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2155.3728 that time I guess. It wasn't all this, uh, 2157.6550 1804 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2157.6550 (pause 1.03) 2158.6879 1805 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2158.6879 knives and that. 2159.6871 1806 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2159.6871 (pause 0.90) 2160.5858 1807 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2160.5858 [Yeah.] 2160.9512 1808 DTA_int_04 2160.6217 [Well, what] would you consider a fair fight then? 2162.9405 1809 DTA_int_04 2163.2090 When you were young. 2163.8436 1810 DTA_int_04 2163.8436 (pause 0.60) 2164.4409 1811 DTA_int_04 2164.4409 Did you have any [rules /inaudible/?] 2165.3572 1812 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2165.0824 [When I was] young uh, you fought with your fists and uh, you didn't do any kicking and this sort of thing. Just fought with your fists and 2171.1458 1813 DTA_int_04 2171.2756 Yeah. 2171.4312 1814 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2171.5120 may the best man win. 2172.6836 1815 DTA_int_04 2173.0984 Uh-huh. 2173.5561 1816 DTA_int_04 2173.5561 (pause 0.44) 2173.9954 1817 DTA_int_04 2173.9954 If- um, 2174.6545 1818 DTA_int_04 2174.6545 (pause 0.21) 2174.8658 1819 DTA_int_04 2174.8658 if a guy was really losing, he was down and he knew it and one of the other guy to stop 2178.7400 1820 DTA_int_04 2178.7400 (pause 0.12) 2178.8644 1821 DTA_int_04 2178.8644 was there anything he could do [like.] 2180.3465 1822 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2180.0841 [He'd raise] his hands. 2181.1092 1823 DTA_int_04 2181.2862 Mm-hm. 2181.4876 1824 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2181.7133 Let's see. We had a way. I think you raised both hands, 2183.8453 1825 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2183.8453 (pause 0.44) 2184.2863 1826 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2184.2863 and they'd say, he's wa- he's raised his hand, or /suddenly/ he'd raise one hand, I guess. 2187.1404 1827 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2187.1404 (pause 0.35) 2187.4883 1828 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2187.4883 He's raised his hand, the rest of 'em will pull him off. 2189.3096 1829 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2189.3096 (pause 0.27) 2189.5781 1830 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2189.5781 Pull the fellow off. Yeah. 2190.7192 1831 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2190.7192 (pause 0.43) 2191.1513 1832 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2191.1513 But they'd all gather around, 2192.5512 1833 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2192.5512 (pause 0.13) 2192.6763 1834 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2192.6763 while you were fighting, and it's just like a ring, 2194.8269 1835 DTA_int_04 2194.8269 Mm-hm. 2195.1684 1836 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2195.2419 but there was this, uh, 2196.5220 1837 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2196.5220 (pause 0.42) 2196.9444 1838 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2196.9444 if a fellow raised his hand, that was it. He gave up. 2199.3912 1839 DTA_int_04 2199.5864 And he didn't have to say anything then? 2201.2260 1840 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2202.5197 Well, he 2202.9529 1841 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2202.9529 (pause 0.55) 2203.5076 1842 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2203.5076 well, probably in conjunction with this say, I give, I give. 2206.1025 1843 DTA_int_04 2206.1231 Mm-hm. 2206.4496 1844 DTA_int_04 2206.4496 (pause 1.48) 2207.9331 1845 DTA_int_04 2207.9331 Um. 2208.3481 1846 DTA_int_04 2208.3481 (pause 1.20) 2209.5473 1847 DTA_int_04 2209.5473 If- did you ever see anyone get really badly beaten up? 2212.2566 1848 DTA_int_04 2212.2566 (pause 1.33) 2213.5859 1849 DTA_int_04 2213.5859 /inaudible/ 2214.3792 1850 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2214.5378 Yeah. 2214.9345 1851 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2214.9345 (pause 0.52) 2215.4592 1852 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2215.4592 Eyes swollen, 2216.7354 1853 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2216.7354 (pause 0.56) 2217.2968 1854 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2217.2968 nose bleeding. 2218.0840 1855 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2218.0840 (pause 0.27) 2218.3525 1856 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2218.3525 This sort of thing. 2219.1568 1857 DTA_int_04 2219.1568 And that was a fist fight [/unintelligible/.] 2221.1907 1858 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2220.2551 Yeah. 2220.5358 1859 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2221.3657 Yeah. 2221.7555 1860 DTA_int_04 2222.1702 Did they ever fight, um, 2223.4699 1861 DTA_int_04 2223.4699 (pause 0.55) 2224.0191 1862 DTA_int_04 2224.0191 in gangs? 2224.8551 1863 DTA_int_04 2224.8551 (pause 0.18) 2225.0382 1864 DTA_int_04 2225.0382 You s- you were talking about the fight [/?/] 2227.2397 1865 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2227.0322 [Yes,] they did, but uh, 2228.5654 1866 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2228.6630 uh, I- I've never seen any gang fights. 2230.6872 1867 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2230.6872 (pause 1.34) 2232.0296 1868 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2232.0296 [Uh.] 2232.4249 1869 DTA_int_04 2232.0296 [Where would-] Where were the gang fights usually /unintelligible/? 2234.5851 1870 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2235.2075 This would be, uh, after school. 2237.0402 1871 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2237.0402 (pause 1.29) 2238.3352 1872 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2238.3352 And i- i- well, it wouldn't be on the school grounds at all. So, where the gang fights took place uh, 2242.7361 1873 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2242.7361 (pause 0.92) 2243.6598 1874 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2243.6598 Well, down on Milford. 2245.1162 1875 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2245.1162 (pause 0.16) 2245.2799 1876 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2245.2799 Which was kind of the 2246.5197 1877 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2246.5197 (pause 0.41) 2246.9303 1878 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2246.9303 main street 2248.0409 1879 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2248.0409 (pause 0.63) 2248.6694 1880 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2248.6694 in the neighborhood. 2249.5902 1881 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2249.5902 (pause 0.81) 2250.3957 1882 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2250.3957 And my mother didn't 2251.3171 1883 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2251.3171 (pause 0.24) 2251.5612 1884 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2251.5612 like us down on Milford too much, so we were rarely down there. 2254.1874 1885 DTA_int_04 2254.1874 What about nowadays? 2255.2004 1886 DTA_int_04 2255.2004 (pause 0.67) 2255.8671 1887 DTA_int_04 2255.8671 In Detroit. 2256.5140 1888 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2256.7747 Gang fights? 2257.4760 1889 DTA_int_04 2257.6479 Yeah. 2257.8469 1890 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2257.9445 I don't see any. 2258.7988 1891 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2258.7988 (pause 0.85) 2259.6470 1892 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2259.6470 Although, I know they occur cause I read about them all the time. 2261.8813 1893 DTA_int_04 2263.1566 Well, what about- uh, 2264.0491 1894 DTA_int_04 2264.0491 (pause 0.14) 2264.1906 1895 DTA_int_04 2264.1906 and around this area, of course, 2265.6429 1896 DTA_int_04 2265.6429 (pause 0.09) 2265.7314 1897 DTA_int_04 2265.7314 do they just- 2266.2775 1898 DTA_int_04 2266.2775 (pause 0.22) 2266.4942 1899 DTA_int_04 2266.4942 kids just sort of like, fight? 2267.5618 1900 DTA_int_04 2267.5618 (pause 0.23) 2267.7937 1901 DTA_int_04 2267.7937 There's small fist fights, anything like that? 2269.4826 1902 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2269.9036 I guess so. 2270.6115 1903 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2270.6115 (pause 0.23) 2270.8423 1904 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2270.8423 I don't see uh. 2271.7271 1905 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2271.7271 (pause 0.72) 2272.4472 1906 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2272.4472 Too much fisticuffs, I guess. 2273.8995 1907 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2273.8995 (pause 1.38) 2275.2786 1908 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2275.2786 Course, if you're near a school and a school lets out, you're gonna see a lot of it, but I mean, just in terms of, um, 2279.8753 1909 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2279.8753 (pause 0.93) 2280.8014 1910 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2280.8014 after school is out, 2281.8052 1911 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2281.8052 (pause 0.20) 2282.0097 1912 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2282.0097 I don't see too many. 2282.7894 1913 DTA_int_04 2282.9654 As a dentist, you don't come across too many of these accidents, 2285.6086 1914 DTA_int_04 2285.6086 (pause 0.16) 2285.7642 1915 DTA_int_04 2285.7642 do you? 2285.9402 1916 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2286.5626 [Accidents? Or] are [you speaking i- ] Yeah. No. I. Uh. You mean from fights? 2291.5984 1917 DTA_int_04 2287.1342 [Mm-hm.] 2287.3692 1918 DTA_int_04 2287.3692 (pause 0.31) 2287.6808 1919 DTA_int_04 2287.6808 [/?/] 2288.4008 1920 DTA_int_04 2291.5984 Yeah. When you 2292.5015 1921 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2292.8176 Well, if- 2293.5987 1922 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2293.5987 (pause 0.71) 2294.3127 1923 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2294.3127 if- uh, if they are from fights, they usually are saying, I fell down. 2297.8818 1924 DTA_int_04 2298.1930 [Uh-huh.] 2298.5348 1925 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2298.3883 [Or] I was playing basketball and I was hit in the mouth with an elbow, and you can't tell the [differences.] 2303.5348 1926 DTA_int_04 2303.1223 [/inaudible/] 2304.0193 1927 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2304.3403 [Yeah. /unintelligible/] 2305.3504 1928 DTA_int_04 2304.3403 [/inaudible/] 2305.3504 1929 DTA_int_04 2305.6303 from. 2305.9964 1930 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2306.0940 Yeah. 2306.4846 1931 DTA_int_04 2307.1375 Okay. have you ever been in the hospital yourself? 2309.0724 1932 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2309.5545 Myself? 2310.0671 1933 DTA_int_04 2310.0976 Mm-hm. 2310.3600 1934 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2311.2021 Twice. Um. 2312.1980 1935 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2312.1980 (pause 0.56) 2312.7533 1936 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2312.7533 When I was a youngster, they thought I had um, 2314.4985 1937 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2314.4985 (pause 1.38) 2315.8773 1938 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2315.8773 uh, scarlet fever. 2316.8659 1939 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2316.8659 (pause 1.10) 2317.9704 1940 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2317.9704 And, um, 2318.6464 1941 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2318.6464 (pause 0.12) 2318.7623 1942 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2318.7623 my mother says they found out later that I didn't have it. 2321.0994 1943 DTA_int_04 2321.3435 Mm. 2321.5205 1944 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2322.1319 And while I was in the service, I had an infected foot. 2324.4080 1945 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2324.4080 (pause 0.80) 2325.2073 1946 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2325.2073 And I was in the hospital then. 2326.2081 1947 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2326.2081 (pause 0.83) 2327.0431 1948 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2327.0431 That's it. 2327.4458 1949 DTA_int_04 2328.1292 Mm-hm. 2328.4398 1950 DTA_int_04 2328.4398 (pause 1.03) 2329.4656 1951 DTA_int_04 2329.4656 Uh. When a person starts to sneeze and to cough, you might say he is ca- he is 2334.0675 1952 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2335.9910 He is uh, catching a cold. 2337.4555 1953 DTA_int_04 2337.5727 Mm-hm. 2337.9225 1954 DTA_int_04 2337.9225 (pause 0.73) 2338.6528 1955 DTA_int_04 2338.6528 And, uh, have you ever been in an automobile accident? 2341.1315 1956 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2342.0695 Minor. 2342.5743 1957 DTA_int_04 2343.1001 Minor. 2343.4093 1958 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2343.5370 Minor. Yeah. 2344.1854 1959 DTA_int_04 2344.2342 Have you ever seen a real bad one? 2345.5767 1960 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2347.4744 Uh. Yes. But only after it has happened. 2349.6687 1961 DTA_int_04 2351.0833 What do you think your impression was about that? 2353.1308 1962 DTA_int_04 2353.1308 (pause 0.85) 2353.9818 1963 DTA_int_04 2353.9818 What'd you feel? 2354.6469 1964 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2355.0924 Well, this was not too long ago, a fellow had, um, 2357.5975 1965 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2357.5975 (pause 2.15) 2359.7437 1966 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2359.7437 been driving at a high speed 2361.3304 1967 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2361.3304 (pause 0.93) 2362.2610 1968 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2362.2610 uh, down Linwood here 2363.5362 1969 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2363.5362 (pause 0.12) 2363.6583 1970 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2363.6583 and he ran into the back of a parked car and he 2366.2395 1971 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2366.2395 (pause 0.41) 2366.6483 1972 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2366.6483 hit it with such a force 2368.0109 1973 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2368.0109 (pause 0.53) 2368.5418 1974 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2368.5418 that I guess it jammed the car into reverse and the car backed up and went up on the, uh, 2372.4167 1975 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2372.4167 (pause 0.36) 2372.7767 1976 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2372.7767 lawn about 2373.4479 1977 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2373.4479 (pause 0.29) 2373.7347 1978 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2373.7347 three or four houses away. 2375.0067 1979 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2375.0067 (pause 0.51) 2375.5193 1980 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2375.5193 Across the street, and as a matter of fact, it was on a friend's 2378.9042 1981 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2378.9042 (pause 0.34) 2379.2459 1982 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2379.2459 uh 2379.5205 1983 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2379.5205 (pause 0.49) 2380.0148 1984 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2380.0148 lawn. 2380.4175 1985 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2380.4175 (pause 1.45) 2381.8698 1986 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2381.8698 Uh, 2382.2665 1987 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2382.2665 (pause 0.22) 2382.4824 1988 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2382.4824 when I drove by, it was 2383.8737 1989 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2383.8737 (pause 0.25) 2384.1239 1990 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2384.1239 right after the accident, and there were some fellows in there, tha- who were trying to pull this man from behind the wheel, and he was, uh, impinged. 2390.7879 1991 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2390.7879 (pause 1.10) 2391.8830 1992 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2391.8830 And uh. I told 'em, for heaven's sakes, what are you tryna i- tryna do? And 2395.2405 1993 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2395.2405 (pause 0.70) 2395.9361 1994 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2395.9361 this was earlier in the year. 2397.3276 1995 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2397.3276 (pause 0.32) 2397.6496 1996 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2397.6496 When it was cold. 2398.5236 1997 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2398.5236 (pause 0.30) 2398.8226 1998 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2398.8226 And I asked, well what are you gonna do once you get him out? I said 2401.2225 1999 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2401.2225 (pause 0.22) 2401.4422 2000 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2401.4422 uh, he may have fractured ribs here, he may puncture a lung if they didn't puncture it already. 2405.4876 2001 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2405.4876 (pause 0.39) 2405.8781 2002 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2405.8781 Leave him alone and wait until someone who has the 2408.0788 2003 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2408.0788 (pause 0.34) 2408.4145 2004 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2408.4145 proper equipment can get here 2409.6684 2005 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2409.6684 (pause 0.07) 2409.7372 2006 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2409.7372 to get him out. 2410.4526 2007 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2410.4526 (pause 0.76) 2411.2079 2008 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2411.2079 And um. 2411.8425 2009 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2411.8425 (pause 0.32) 2412.1598 2010 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2412.1598 And so 2412.7822 2011 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2412.7822 (pause 0.87) 2413.6511 2012 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2413.6511 they listened. 2414.2431 2013 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2414.2431 (pause 0.43) 2414.6763 2014 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2414.6763 And it was fortunate that they did uh, stop, because uh, whe- after the police got there, they had to call the fire department, they had to 2420.5318 2015 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2420.5318 (pause 0.65) 2421.1847 2016 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2421.1847 s- hacksaw the seat loose in order to get the man out from under the wheel. 2424.4292 2017 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2424.4292 (pause 1.19) 2425.6184 2018 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2425.6184 And, uh, you can imagine, you s- tryna get him out of there. 2428.9460 2019 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2428.9460 (pause 0.88) 2429.8308 2020 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2429.8308 And you know. 2430.6227 2021 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2430.6227 (pause 0.40) 2431.0194 2022 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2431.0194 Well. 2431.4587 2023 DTA_int_04 2431.5991 Have you ever been in a situation where you thought you might be killed or you just might die? 2435.4192 2024 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2442.9051 One. 2443.4604 2025 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2443.4604 (pause 0.54) 2444.0051 2026 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2444.0051 And this is the closest that I've, uh, 2445.8561 2027 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2445.8561 (pause 0.82) 2446.6748 2028 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2446.6748 had come to it, and actually, it was after it was all over. 2448.8349 2029 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2448.8349 (pause 0.40) 2449.2316 2030 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2449.2316 And this was, uh, during the time that I was in the service. 2451.5904 2031 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2451.5904 (pause 0.52) 2452.1091 2032 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2452.1091 Uh, 2452.5667 2033 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2452.5667 (pause 0.10) 2452.6705 2034 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2452.6705 on the grenade range 2453.9214 2035 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2453.9214 (pause 0.67) 2454.5865 2036 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2454.5865 here at- in- at Camp Lee, there was railroad track that went by 2457.7198 2037 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2457.7198 (pause 0.51) 2458.2324 2038 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2458.2324 and 2458.8060 2039 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2458.8060 (pause 0.57) 2459.3751 2040 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2459.3751 it was my job 2460.3892 2041 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2460.3892 (pause 0.83) 2461.2205 2042 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2461.2205 at that time to, um, 2462.4348 2043 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2462.4348 (pause 0.95) 2463.3868 2044 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2463.3868 warn them, I had a walkie talkie, if a train was coming along, then they'd stop throwing 2467.0194 2045 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2467.0194 (pause 0.13) 2467.1475 2046 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2467.1475 grenades. These were live grenades. 2468.5998 2047 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2468.5998 (pause 1.08) 2469.6799 2048 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2469.6799 And, um, 2470.5464 2049 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2470.5464 (pause 0.29) 2470.8332 2050 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2470.8332 I was sitting there, 2471.9461 2051 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2471.9461 (pause 0.18) 2472.1291 2052 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2472.1291 you know, 2472.6051 2053 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2472.6051 (pause 0.16) 2472.7638 2054 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2472.7638 and you could hear the grenades going off in the distance, and you could hear the shrapnel 2476.5054 2055 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2476.5054 (pause 0.23) 2476.7311 2056 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2476.7311 hitting in the trees. 2477.7615 2057 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2477.7615 (pause 0.93) 2478.6899 2058 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2478.6899 Well, 2479.0500 2059 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2479.0500 (pause 1.19) 2480.2420 2060 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2480.2420 I heard this one fragment 2481.9971 2061 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2481.9971 (pause 0.50) 2482.4989 2062 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2482.4989 come right past my ear. 2483.7999 2063 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2483.7999 (pause 0.23) 2484.0257 2064 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2484.0257 and hit the track. Ping. You know, like all at once, this happened, you know, 2486.7533 2065 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2486.7533 (pause 0.33) 2487.0842 2066 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2487.0842 you just heard a 2487.8424 2067 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2487.8424 (pause 0.12) 2487.9614 2068 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2487.9614 ping like that. 2488.7806 2069 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2488.7806 (pause 0.40) 2489.1788 2070 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2489.1788 Well, um, 2490.1657 2071 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2490.1657 (pause 0.41) 2490.5780 2072 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2490.5780 t- I called up and told 'em what had happened, and uh, they told me, well move uh, about 2494.9105 2073 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2494.9105 (pause 0.53) 2495.4414 2074 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2495.4414 ten, 2495.8366 2075 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2495.8366 (pause 0.12) 2495.9525 2076 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2495.9525 fifteen more yards 2497.1663 2077 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2497.1663 (pause 0.35) 2497.5141 2078 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2497.5141 farther out, see. 2498.5169 2079 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2498.5169 (pause 0.43) 2498.9502 2080 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2498.9502 And so, uh, 2499.9753 2081 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2499.9753 (pause 0.12) 2500.0974 2082 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2500.0974 and I m- 2500.3903 2083 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2500.3903 (pause 0.18) 2500.5673 2084 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2500.5673 moved on out. But, uh, 2501.7984 2085 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2501.7984 (pause 0.56) 2502.3598 2086 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2502.3598 I star- afterward, I started thinking, that uh, evidently, it must have passed very close because 2506.9639 2087 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2506.9639 (pause 0.21) 2507.1775 2088 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2507.1775 what I heard. 2507.8426 2089 DTA_int_04 2507.9585 Hm. 2508.2331 2090 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2508.5932 And 2508.9715 2091 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2508.9715 (pause 0.42) 2509.3897 2092 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2509.3897 well, so. 2509.8840 2093 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2509.8840 (pause 0.10) 2509.9878 2094 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2509.9878 But it was all afterward, it wasn't 2511.4218 2095 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2511.4218 (pause 0.27) 2511.6903 2096 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2511.6903 me experiencing the- that I may 2513.9129 2097 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2513.9129 (pause 0.51) 2514.4194 2098 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2514.4194 die and you know, and [then something happening.] 2516.2745 2099 DTA_int_04 2515.4157 [Yeah.] 2515.6201 2100 DTA_int_04 2515.6201 (pause 0.39) 2516.0113 2101 DTA_int_04 2516.0113 [Yeah.] Y- you [thought nothing] about it, just happened and [then.] 2518.5966 2102 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2516.7565 [Yeah.] 2517.0738 2103 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2517.0738 (pause 1.36) 2518.4379 2104 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2518.4379 [Happened] then I thought about it afterward. 2520.1404 2105 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2520.6447 Yeah. 2520.9803 2106 DTA_int_04 2521.3647 Some people say that whatever is going to happen is going to happen. 2524.2022 2107 DTA_int_04 2524.2022 (pause 0.77) 2524.9734 2108 DTA_int_04 2524.9734 what do you think about that? 2525.8277 2109 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2527.9085 Uh. I don't quite agree with that. 2529.6659 2110 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2529.6659 (pause 0.65) 2530.3174 2111 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2530.3174 Uh. 2530.7582 2112 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2530.7582 (pause 0.63) 2531.3918 2113 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2531.3918 I feel that uh, you yourself can pretty well 2534.7984 2114 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2534.7984 (pause 0.35) 2535.1523 2115 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2535.1523 determine 2535.8358 2116 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2535.8358 (pause 1.08) 2536.9159 2117 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2536.9159 uh, what's going 2537.8373 2118 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2537.8373 (pause 0.29) 2538.1302 2119 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2538.1302 to happen to a 2539.1149 2120 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2539.1149 (pause 0.49) 2539.6031 2121 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2539.6031 large degree. 2540.5184 2122 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2540.5184 (pause 0.78) 2541.2980 2123 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2541.2980 True, it's gonna, what you- uh 2543.0630 2124 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2543.0630 (pause 0.70) 2543.7586 2125 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2543.7586 uh, 2544.0808 2126 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2544.0808 (pause 0.40) 2544.4798 2127 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2544.4798 what 2544.8686 2128 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2544.8686 (pause 0.95) 2545.8206 2129 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2545.8206 will be accomplished will be determined 2547.6288 2130 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2547.6288 (pause 0.30) 2547.9278 2131 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2547.9278 by what's going to happen, if you 2549.3435 2132 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2549.3435 (pause 0.71) 2550.0513 2133 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2550.0513 die, then of course, what you 2551.3938 2134 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2551.3938 (pause 0.26) 2551.6491 2135 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2551.6491 plan to make happen 2552.7047 2136 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2552.7047 (pause 0.15) 2552.8571 2137 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2552.8571 doesn't happen. But, I think to a large degree- 2554.9137 2138 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2554.9137 (pause 0.81) 2555.7265 2139 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2555.7265 um, 2556.1963 2140 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2556.1963 (pause 0.79) 2556.9896 2141 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2556.9896 2557.0750 2142 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2557.0750 (pause 0.21) 2557.2825 2143 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2557.2825 well, I look at life this way. 2558.3016 2144 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2558.3016 (pause 0.65) 2558.9484 2145 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2558.9484 Um. 2559.3267 2146 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2559.3267 (pause 1.10) 2560.4312 2147 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2560.4312 Some people say, well you're lucky to be a dentist, 2562.3871 2148 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2562.3871 (pause 0.13) 2562.5165 2149 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2562.5165 I- I tell 'em, well, I was not born a dentist, you know. 2565.0013 2150 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2565.0013 (pause 0.52) 2565.5261 2151 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2565.5261 Um. 2565.8617 2152 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2565.8617 (pause 0.24) 2566.0998 2153 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2566.0998 You can shoot 2567.0883 2154 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2567.0883 (pause 0.29) 2567.3752 2155 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2567.3752 in pool, you can 2568.5895 2156 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2568.5895 (pause 0.96) 2569.5475 2157 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2569.5475 shoot a, um, 2570.9900 2158 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2570.9900 (pause 1.12) 2572.1128 2159 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2572.1128 bank shot 2572.9427 2160 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2572.9427 (pause 0.94) 2573.8824 2161 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2573.8824 or- 2574.3513 2162 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2574.3513 (pause 0.40) 2574.7479 2163 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2574.7479 No. 2575.0164 2164 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2575.0164 (pause 0.53) 2575.5473 2165 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2575.5473 You can- 2576.1514 2166 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2576.1514 (pause 0.36) 2576.5114 2167 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2576.5114 Yeah. 2576.7555 2168 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2576.7555 (pause 0.41) 2577.1658 2169 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2577.1658 You can try to shoot a ball in a corner pocket 2579.5588 2170 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2579.5588 (pause 0.15) 2579.7114 2171 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2579.7114 and it's a bank shot. 2580.7365 2172 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2580.7365 (pause 0.34) 2581.0783 2173 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2581.0783 And you try to do it 2581.8749 2174 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2581.8749 (pause 0.27) 2582.1495 2175 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2582.1495 and you hit it, and the ball goes into the pocket. 2584.2609 2176 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2584.2609 (pause 0.15) 2584.4134 2177 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2584.4134 To me, that's not luck. 2585.4630 2178 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2585.4630 (pause 0.11) 2585.5728 2179 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2585.5728 You tried to do that, and you accomplished it. 2587.4612 2180 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2587.4612 (pause 0.74) 2588.1996 2181 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2588.1996 Now, 2588.5230 2182 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2588.5230 (pause 0.63) 2589.1515 2183 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2589.1515 if however, 2589.8838 2184 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2589.8838 (pause 0.28) 2590.1645 2185 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2590.1645 you, uh, tried the same shot and at the same time the uh, 2594.2028 2186 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2594.2028 (pause 0.36) 2594.5628 2187 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2594.5628 you got two balls in the pocket, you didn't plan that uh, because of the ways the balls were hitting, you got two in the pocket. 2599.9126 2188 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2599.9126 (pause 0.11) 2600.0225 2189 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2600.0225 You had luck there. 2600.8279 2190 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2600.8279 (pause 0.32) 2601.1453 2191 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2601.1453 But this other shot that banked in that's not luck. This was planned, and you accomplished it. 2604.7714 2192 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2604.7714 (pause 0.28) 2605.0521 2193 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2605.0521 This is the way I look at life. 2606.3580 2194 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2606.3580 (pause 0.85) 2607.2062 2195 DTA_se3_ag3_m_01 2607.2062 Yeah. 2607.4381 2196 DTA_int_04 2607.5001 Yeah. Well, thank you. 2608.5226