Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 DTA_int_01 1.1048 Okay, the first ques- 1.9271 2 DTA_int_01 1.9271 (pause 0.42) 2.3492 3 DTA_int_01 2.3492 question is, uh, what kind of k- uh, games do the kids play around here in this neighborhood? 6.3481 4 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 7.5422 Oh, for the neighborhood, 8.9655 5 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 8.9655 (pause 1.05) 10.0161 6 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 10.0161 majority of the youngsters play 12.0221 7 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 12.0221 (pause 1.39) 13.4137 8 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 13.4137 almost anything, really. Some of the sidewalk games and, 16.7161 9 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 16.7161 (pause 1.00) 17.7132 10 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 17.7132 uh, /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-1/ are interested in- mainly in b- ri- bike riding. 22.1612 11 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 22.1612 (pause 0.53) 22.6890 12 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 22.6890 They play things over at the school. 24.3554 13 DTA_int_01 24.6429 [Mm-hm.] 24.9947 14 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 24.8448 [They're] mostly juvenile games to them. 26.7009 15 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 27.4023 Such as little Sally Walker, and 29.3767 16 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 29.3767 (pause 0.55) 29.9242 17 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 29.9242 things like that the school actually has them playing. 32.4363 18 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 32.4363 (pause 0.71) 33.1413 19 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 33.1413 But, uh, in the home now, 34.8292 20 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 34.8292 (pause 0.37) 35.1963 21 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 35.1963 uh, the youngsters have their own games here at home. They play 37.9363 22 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 37.9363 (pause 0.77) 38.7070 23 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 38.7070 things like The Game of Life, 40.2791 24 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 40.2791 (pause 0.28) 40.5636 25 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 40.5636 they play, um, 41.7468 26 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 41.7468 (pause 2.24) 43.9883 27 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 43.9883 uh, they have a Scrabble game. They have a- oh, practically all the games that youngsters play with. 49.1659 28 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 49.1659 (pause 0.19) 49.3556 29 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 49.3556 Is that enough? I [mean.] 50.7804 30 DTA_int_01 50.6166 [But] what was that little Sally Walker? 52.3158 31 DTA_int_01 52.4259 Is it? 52.7165 32 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 52.7868 Uh, this an old-fashioned game, it's way before your time. 55.9489 33 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 55.9489 (pause 0.53) 56.4776 34 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 56.4776 Little /Satty-/ Sally Walker, this is the one that I hear them talk about mainly. 60.2239 35 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 60.2239 (pause 0.56) 60.7836 36 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 60.7836 And they go around the circle, it's sort of a circle game. It's one of those things where 64.3158 37 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 64.3158 (pause 0.27) 64.5850 38 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 64.5850 a group of youngsters play together. 66.2239 39 DTA_int_01 66.3065 Oh, w- what- what's the, uh, 67.6184 40 DTA_int_01 67.6184 (pause 0.42) 68.0341 41 DTA_int_01 68.0341 i- is there some rhyme that they 69.3310 42 DTA_int_01 69.3310 (pause 0.12) 69.4532 43 DTA_int_01 69.4532 say with it? 69.9536 44 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 69.9885 Yeah. 70.5391 45 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 70.5391 (pause 0.20) 70.7440 46 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 70.7440 Little Sally Walker sitting in the saucer, 73.1721 47 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 73.1721 (pause 0.47) 73.6431 48 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 73.6431 crying and weeping for someone to come. 75.9593 49 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 75.9593 (pause 0.88) 76.8419 50 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 76.8419 Let's see, rise Sally, rise, and wipe your weeping eyes. 80.5449 51 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 80.5449 (pause 1.04) 81.5848 52 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 81.5848 Point to the east, point to the west, point to the one that you like the best. I think that's about the way it goes. 86.8761 53 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 86.8761 (pause 1.06) 87.9365 54 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 87.9365 But now, they play that at school. 89.5510 55 DTA_int_01 89.8416 Uh-huh. 90.0832 56 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 90.5236 Uh, on the playground over here in the summertime. Course, 93.2942 57 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 93.2942 (pause 0.53) 93.8203 58 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 93.8203 we live in Detroit, 94.9424 59 DTA_int_01 95.4929 Mm-hm. 95.7407 60 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 95.8905 and that is Highland Park. 97.8113 61 DTA_int_01 97.9558 Oh, I see. 98.4883 62 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 98.5021 Uh, but Highland Park does have a program. 100.7871 63 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 100.7871 (pause 0.46) 101.2482 64 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 101.2482 And the youngsters go over there and play 102.9346 65 DTA_int_01 103.3189 Mm. 103.5574 66 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 103.6002 different games over there. And there they get a little 105.7591 67 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 105.7591 (pause 0.24) 106.0038 68 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 106.0038 more varied 106.7593 69 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 106.7593 (pause 0.35) 107.1137 70 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 107.1137 amount of games. 108.0251 71 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 108.0251 (pause 0.69) 108.7102 72 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 108.7102 They do a lot of the roller skating, 110.4195 73 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 110.4195 (pause 0.11) 110.5266 74 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 110.5266 swinging, and 111.3768 75 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 111.3768 (pause 0.75) 112.1231 76 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 112.1231 bike riding. 112.9485 77 DTA_int_01 113.3675 It's a lot of [the /same thing there/.] 114.7071 78 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 113.9456 [Occasionally we go] swimming there, something like that. The h- family 117.2637 79 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 117.7469 together does this, but that's about the way we spend our recreation. 120.7775 80 DTA_int_01 121.2118 Mm-hm. 121.5035 81 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 122.4623 [Fishing.] 122.9609 82 DTA_int_01 122.4623 [/?/] 122.7437 83 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 123.1168 [] 123.8686 84 DTA_int_01 123.4572 [And have- they play] a lot of the same games that you played when you were younger, or? 126.0893 85 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 126.7939 No, not so much. 128.8630 86 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 128.8630 (pause 0.17) 129.0281 87 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 129.0281 Not this group. You see, I- I- we're the fam- we're- have two different groups of children. 133.3402 88 DTA_int_01 133.6272 Uh-huh. 133.8816 89 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 133.9577 And this happens to be the 135.0679 90 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 135.0679 (pause 0.17) 135.2361 91 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 135.2361 group of our old age, the group of our younger age s- 137.8440 92 DTA_int_01 138.5695 [Oh.] 138.9309 93 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 138.7271 [benefitted] by 139.6033 94 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 140.2574 the things that we did. Th- the boy has just started playing baseball, 143.8492 95 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 143.8492 (pause 0.89) 144.7408 96 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 144.7408 a little 145.2332 97 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 145.2332 (pause 0.32) 145.5543 98 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 145.5543 football, 146.3888 99 DTA_int_01 146.6733 Uh-huh. 146.9425 100 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 147.2881 and, uh, basketball. 148.7164 101 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 148.7164 (pause 0.56) 149.2727 102 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 149.2727 But /RD-NAME-1/ hasn't gotten into any organized game like that. 152.3276 103 DTA_int_01 152.6581 Uh-huh. 152.9884 104 DTA_int_01 152.9884 (pause 0.43) 153.4166 105 DTA_int_01 153.4166 What are some of the game- let's say one- 155.0678 106 DTA_int_01 155.0678 (pause 0.25) 155.3203 107 DTA_int_01 155.3203 one 155.6764 108 DTA_int_01 155.6764 (pause 0.51) 156.1902 109 DTA_int_01 156.1902 game that you used to play when you were- 157.8432 110 DTA_int_01 157.8432 (pause 0.53) 158.3736 111 DTA_int_01 158.3736 when you were a- 158.9889 112 DTA_int_01 158.9889 (pause 0.21) 159.2025 113 DTA_int_01 159.2025 in school or [something?] 160.4404 114 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 160.2301 [Me?] 160.6423 115 DTA_int_01 160.7191 Yeah, [h-] 161.1727 116 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 161.0096 [Everything] you name it, I did it. 162.5848 117 DTA_int_01 162.7989 . 163.1995 118 DTA_int_01 163.1995 (pause 0.65) 163.8510 119 DTA_int_01 163.8510 Can you name some of them? 164.6550 120 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 164.8263 Oh, I- 165.8111 121 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 165.8111 (pause 0.47) 166.2813 122 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 166.2813 we had, uh, 167.1381 123 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 167.1381 (pause 0.87) 168.0067 124 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 168.0067 the bowling that's at- bowling on the green. 170.3331 125 DTA_int_01 170.4164 Uh-huh. 170.6893 126 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 170.9914 Uh, I did a great deal of swimming. 172.8755 127 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 172.8755 (pause 1.00) 173.8752 128 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 173.8752 Uh, tennis. 175.0347 129 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 175.0347 (pause 1.35) 176.3889 130 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 176.3889 I played hockey, 177.5325 131 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 177.5325 (pause 0.50) 178.0313 132 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 178.0313 basketball, went into riflery. 179.8232 133 DTA_int_01 181.8169 Hm. 182.0249 134 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 182.2023 Mm, 182.9241 135 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 182.9241 (pause 0.95) 183.8692 136 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 183.8692 that's why I say, you name it, I did it. 185.4501 137 DTA_int_01 185.4501 185.8966 138 DTA_int_01 185.8966 (pause 0.51) 186.4016 139 DTA_int_01 186.4016 What about in, uh- in grade school? 187.8510 140 DTA_int_01 187.8510 (pause 0.53) 188.3858 141 DTA_int_01 188.3858 What [are those?] 188.8637 142 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 188.7100 [In] grade school it was soccer 190.6763 143 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 191.6427 with the boys. 192.3340 144 DTA_int_01 192.3340 192.8998 145 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 192.9579 Basketball, l- we called it fly ball out 195.7285 146 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 195.7285 (pause 0.49) 196.2209 147 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 196.2209 because you didn't really have a team. 197.9272 148 DTA_int_01 198.1596 Uh-huh. 198.4227 149 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 198.4563 But, uh, there would be a 199.6705 150 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 199.6705 (pause 0.44) 200.1106 151 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 200.1106 number of youngsters lined up on one side, and then you'd hit a ball and 203.3491 152 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 203.3491 (pause 0.46) 203.8080 153 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 203.8080 we played that summer, winter. 205.6094 154 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 205.6094 (pause 0.24) 205.8540 155 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 205.8540 Where we'd find five people to get together to 208.4626 156 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 208.4626 (pause 0.13) 208.5910 157 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 208.5910 play, we'd get a basket- get a, um, baseball and we'd start after it. 212.0096 158 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 212.0096 (pause 0.45) 212.4642 159 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 212.4642 Why yes, I did have a- 213.5236 160 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 213.5236 (pause 0.71) 214.2332 161 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 214.2332 I did do a lot of basketball playing too. 216.1566 162 DTA_int_01 216.3278 Hm. 216.5725 163 DTA_int_01 216.5725 (pause 0.24) 216.8141 164 DTA_int_01 216.8141 You call it 217.1781 165 DTA_int_01 217.1781 (pause 0.17) 217.3494 166 DTA_int_01 217.3494 fly ball out with a 218.4190 167 DTA_int_01 218.4190 (pause 0.64) 219.0587 168 DTA_int_01 219.0587 regular- 219.4410 169 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 219.4716 With a- with the- the, um, 221.4439 170 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 221.4439 (pause 0.28) 221.7284 171 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 221.7284 regulation softball 223.2148 172 DTA_int_01 223.4778 Oh yeah. 223.8540 173 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 223.8877 and bat. 224.4225 174 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 224.4225 (pause 0.44) 224.8629 175 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 224.8629 [Mm-hm.] 225.2850 176 DTA_int_01 224.9842 [Hm.] 225.2484 177 DTA_int_01 225.8784 And w- what- 226.6722 178 DTA_int_01 226.6722 (pause 0.18) 226.8479 179 DTA_int_01 226.8479 yeah. 227.1625 180 DTA_int_01 227.1625 (pause 0.25) 227.4164 181 DTA_int_01 227.4164 What did you have to do to get points, or? 229.1934 182 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 229.5626 You just hit a b- hit a ball and run as many bases as you could. 232.4167 183 DTA_int_01 232.6491 Uh-huh. 232.9274 184 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 233.0647 The next person come up and hit a ball and then you'd, uh- 236.1136 185 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 236.1136 (pause 0.76) 236.8691 186 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 236.8691 uh, come in if you couldn't. And every- 238.8475 187 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 238.8475 (pause 0.11) 238.9576 188 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 238.9576 every point you brought in was your own individual point. 241.5543 189 DTA_int_01 241.8418 Oh, I see. 242.4470 190 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 242.6611 That was the way you'd 243.3003 191 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 243.3003 (pause 0.23) 243.5325 192 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 243.5325 determine who won the game. 244.6675 193 DTA_int_01 244.9091 Hm. 245.1687 194 DTA_int_01 245.1687 (pause 1.11) 246.2758 195 DTA_int_01 246.2758 Um, 246.6256 196 DTA_int_01 246.6256 (pause 2.09) 248.7161 197 DTA_int_01 248.7161 uh, what're your favorite TV programs? 250.4044 198 DTA_int_01 250.4044 (pause 0.17) 250.5788 199 DTA_int_01 250.5788 See. 250.9026 200 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 251.9333 Um, 252.7407 201 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 252.7407 (pause 1.09) 253.8357 202 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 253.8357 well Twelve O'clock High, 255.1984 203 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 255.1984 (pause 0.85) 256.0435 204 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 256.0435 Perry Mason whenever I have a chance. I don't get a chance to watch the TV as much as p- as much I'd like to. 260.8599 205 DTA_int_01 260.9761 Mm-hm. 261.2881 206 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 261.4563 So it's usually 262.3524 207 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 262.3524 (pause 0.73) 263.0861 208 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 263.0861 uh, they've- and then they changed all the Saturday programs that I liked. 266.9946 209 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 266.9946 (pause 0.72) 267.7163 210 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 267.7163 Um, 268.3677 211 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 268.3677 (pause 1.81) 270.1749 212 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 270.1749 what's this one, um. 271.4350 213 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 271.4350 (pause 1.08) 272.5143 214 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 272.5143 272.7039 215 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 272.7039 (pause 1.19) 273.8948 216 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 273.8948 That Jason McCord plays in. 275.7651 217 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 275.7651 (pause 1.13) 276.8998 218 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 276.8998 Um, 277.6369 219 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 277.6369 (pause 3.34) 280.9729 220 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 280.9729 Branded. 281.7917 221 DTA_int_01 282.1902 Hm. 282.4226 222 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 282.7560 And, um, 283.8724 223 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 283.8724 (pause 1.27) 285.1443 224 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 285.1443 there's, uh, 286.1720 225 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 286.1720 (pause 1.80) 287.9726 226 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 287.9726 I mentioned Twelve O'Clock High, Branded. 290.0249 227 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 290.0249 (pause 0.85) 290.8752 228 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 290.8752 And, um, 291.8373 229 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 291.8373 (pause 1.19) 293.0279 230 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 293.0279 oh, once in a while we, 293.9424 231 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 293.9424 (pause 0.48) 294.4241 232 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 294.4241 with nothing else to do, we watch, um, 296.5754 233 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 296.5754 (pause 2.24) 298.8173 234 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 298.8173 that's the funny thing, I can't remember the name of those programs because it- 301.3494 235 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 301.3494 (pause 0.24) 301.5879 236 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 301.5879 it's just something to do on a Saturday evening, that's all. 303.8906 237 DTA_int_01 303.9609 /Well/ 304.2087 238 DTA_int_01 304.2087 (pause 0.13) 304.3371 239 DTA_int_01 304.3371 can you remember one- one episode of 306.0678 240 DTA_int_01 306.0678 (pause 0.12) 306.1871 241 DTA_int_01 306.1871 Twelve- 306.5266 242 DTA_int_01 306.5266 (pause 0.17) 306.6918 243 DTA_int_01 306.6918 was it Twelve O'Clock? 307.5940 244 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 308.0713 Twelve O'Clock High. 308.9210 245 DTA_int_01 309.0403 Uh-huh. 309.2728 246 DTA_int_01 309.2728 (pause 0.38) 309.6490 247 DTA_int_01 309.6490 Can you remember one episode of that 311.0276 248 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 311.1717 [Oh, a couple weeks] or so ago, I think it was a very interesting one where they, uh, 315.4575 249 DTA_int_01 311.4012 [that you can tell me?] 312.2488 250 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 316.5849 were very really badly beaten. This is all war, do you know the- 319.6644 251 DTA_int_01 319.7561 Oh. 320.0246 252 DTA_int_01 320.0246 (pause 0.20) 320.2213 253 DTA_int_01 320.2213 [Oh, I don't watch that.] 321.0434 254 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 320.2237 [it's all war.] 320.8684 255 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 321.3462 And they were very beat- 322.3769 256 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 322.3769 (pause 0.13) 322.5084 257 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 322.5084 badly beaten. They were- had been pushed into really a corner there. 325.9580 258 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 325.9580 (pause 0.58) 326.5418 259 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 326.5418 There were very men and they were trying to get a plane off the field, and the Germans were- 330.0556 260 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 330.0556 (pause 0.33) 330.3859 261 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 330.3859 were, um, 331.1383 262 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 331.1383 (pause 0.55) 331.6888 263 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 331.6888 coming in after them. 332.8079 264 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 332.8079 (pause 0.64) 333.4501 265 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 333.4501 And, uh, 334.3555 266 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 334.3555 (pause 0.28) 334.6399 267 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 334.6399 they said /pat/ 335.4531 268 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 335.4531 (pause 0.16) 335.6091 269 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 335.6091 until they could 336.2850 270 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 336.2850 (pause 0.32) 336.6092 271 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 336.6092 so- so to speak, see the whites of their eyes before they went out, and then they let 'em have it. 340.7072 272 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 340.7072 (pause 0.58) 341.2910 273 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 341.2910 Course I'm a- 341.7956 274 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 341.7956 (pause 1.43) 343.2239 275 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 343.2239 quite a patriotic person, [ so.] 345.5174 276 DTA_int_01 344.7926 [] 345.1412 277 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 345.6428 But 345.8508 278 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 345.8508 (pause 0.43) 346.2821 279 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 346.2821 in their beating them, this is [for me.] (laughing) 348.4593 280 DTA_int_01 348.0250 [] 348.8845 281 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 350.6536 Now, 351.4314 282 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 351.4314 (pause 1.87) 353.3001 283 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 353.3001 I used to love Perry Mason. 355.1016 284 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 355.1016 (pause 1.13) 356.2328 285 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 356.2328 And, um, 357.2575 286 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 357.2575 (pause 1.64) 358.8968 287 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 358.8968 I don't- 359.3215 288 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 359.3215 (pause 0.46) 359.7803 289 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 359.7803 I like music 360.8539 290 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 360.8539 (pause 0.54) 361.3891 291 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 361.3891 but the type of music I like and the type of music the younger people of the day like, 365.3888 292 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 365.3888 (pause 0.95) 366.3339 293 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 366.3339 it's all together different, you see. I come from a different area. 368.9485 294 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 368.9485 (pause 1.09) 370.0374 295 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 370.0374 I have a 370.6430 296 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 370.6430 (pause 0.38) 371.0249 297 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 371.0249 passion for records /on now/ that, 372.9332 298 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 372.9332 (pause 0.14) 373.0771 299 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 373.0771 uh, 373.5573 300 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 373.5573 (pause 0.13) 373.6858 301 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 373.6858 they're called, um, 374.6479 302 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 374.6479 (pause 1.36) 376.0098 303 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 376.0098 a collector's item. 377.0860 304 DTA_int_01 377.2971 Oh, yeah. 377.7130 305 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 377.7895 From Reader's Digest that, uh, 379.7378 306 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 379.7378 (pause 0.39) 380.1258 307 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 380.1258 brings in all the old songs that I love. 382.2209 308 DTA_int_01 382.5114 Hm. 382.7286 309 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 383.0130 And of course, 383.6274 310 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 383.6274 (pause 0.30) 383.9271 311 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 383.9271 that made me like Perry Mason. 385.6154 312 DTA_int_01 385.9811 Mm-hm. 386.2438 313 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 386.8292 And like- m- made me like, uh, 388.5267 314 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 388.5267 (pause 0.21) 388.7372 315 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 388.7372 Perry Como. 389.5417 316 DTA_int_01 389.8476 Mm-hm. 390.1988 317 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 390.2789 Perry Como I can- 391.3891 318 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 391.3891 (pause 0.52) 391.9090 319 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 391.9090 I can be sitting in a chair, 393.4134 320 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 393.4134 (pause 0.44) 393.8508 321 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 393.8508 half dead and the folks thinking any minute now I've got to call a doctor for her, and you turn on Perry Mason and I'm up across the floor dancing. (laughing) 400.5145 322 DTA_int_01 400.7102 [Yeah.] 400.9976 323 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 400.8597 [] 401.7161 324 DTA_int_01 401.4255 [Yeah.] 401.7467 325 DTA_int_01 401.8965 I like him too. 402.6904 326 DTA_int_01 402.6904 (pause 0.98) 403.6674 327 DTA_int_01 403.6674 Um, what about 404.4351 328 DTA_int_01 404.4351 (pause 0.17) 404.6090 329 DTA_int_01 404.6090 you- 404.8499 330 DTA_int_01 404.8499 (pause 0.20) 405.0539 331 DTA_int_01 405.0539 y- you have a dog. 405.9487 332 DTA_int_01 405.9487 (pause 0.12) 406.0649 333 DTA_int_01 406.0649 Could you [tell me about your dog] or? 407.3276 334 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 406.3187 [Yes.] 406.9025 335 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 407.9424 All that. 408.5144 336 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 408.5144 (pause 2.41) 410.9241 337 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 410.9241 Um, the dog was given to us to raise for Seeing Eye. 415.3860 338 DTA_int_01 415.9121 Oh. 416.2114 339 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 417.1534 And, uh, we really intended to give him to Seeing Eye. 420.4562 340 DTA_int_01 420.6948 Mm-hm. 420.9270 341 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 421.1169 But the dog became temperamental. 422.8170 342 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 422.8170 (pause 0.91) 423.7315 343 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 423.7315 In other words, he bit two or three people. 425.7554 344 DTA_int_01 425.9118 Mm-hm. 426.1779 345 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 426.3431 And Seeing Eye wouldn't take him. 427.7194 346 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 427.7194 (pause 0.53) 428.2512 347 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 428.2512 So he isn't in- 429.3675 348 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 429.3675 (pause 0.57) 429.9395 349 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 429.9395 he's a loveable beast, 431.4806 350 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 431.4806 (pause 0.53) 432.0127 351 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 432.0127 but, 432.2483 352 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 432.2483 (pause 1.14) 433.3921 353 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 433.3921 he just isn't what we want. We have a- 435.1534 354 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 435.1534 (pause 0.13) 435.2850 355 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 435.2850 a Siamese cat. 436.2973 356 DTA_int_01 436.5171 Mm-hm. 436.8001 357 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 437.0952 We love cats, if you notice the collection up there. 439.5206 358 DTA_int_01 439.8566 Oh. 440.2267 359 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 440.8262 But I don't like Siamese cats, so I'm hooked in with a cat I don't particularly care for. 444.6244 360 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 444.6244 (pause 0.46) 445.0802 361 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 445.0802 Although I love cats. 446.3399 362 DTA_int_01 446.3857 Uh-huh. 446.6383 363 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 446.8139 And cats love me. 447.8569 364 DTA_int_01 448.3034 Do you have a name for your cat? 449.2308 365 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 449.9485 Yes, his- my mother named him Felix. He comes from a long line of 453.8294 366 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 453.8294 (pause 0.62) 454.4533 367 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 454.4533 Ting Lee's and Foo Young's and 456.6244 368 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 456.6244 (pause 0.46) 457.0893 369 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 457.0893 all that type of thing. But he ended up Felix when he hit this [house. ] 461.5073 370 DTA_int_01 460.2790 [] 461.0371 371 DTA_int_01 462.8110 Um, 463.1536 372 DTA_int_01 463.1536 (pause 0.67) 463.8260 373 DTA_int_01 463.8260 is there some- uh, 465.0494 374 DTA_int_01 465.0494 (pause 0.50) 465.5541 375 DTA_int_01 465.5541 well, whether you believe it or not, but 466.8693 376 DTA_int_01 466.8693 (pause 0.27) 467.1380 377 DTA_int_01 467.1380 uh, superstitious ways that you get a wish or- 469.3554 378 DTA_int_01 469.3554 (pause 0.70) 470.0585 379 DTA_int_01 470.0585 I mean, whether they actually believe it or not. 471.4623 380 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 472.6093 No. 473.3949 381 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 473.3949 (pause 0.26) 473.6549 382 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 473.6549 I- I- course, you got us from the school over here so you know that we're Catholic. 477.3430 383 DTA_int_01 477.3430 Mm-hm. 477.5755 384 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 478.0802 And, um, 478.8662 385 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 478.8662 (pause 1.64) 480.5021 386 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 480.5021 u- you wouldn't call 'em a superstition because, uh, actually I believe in prayer. 484.6860 387 DTA_int_01 484.7985 Mm-hm. 485.1227 388 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 485.4714 And, uh, 486.2605 389 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 486.2605 (pause 0.60) 486.8599 390 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 486.8599 that's the 487.5450 391 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 487.5450 (pause 0.21) 487.7530 392 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 487.7530 way things come along that I want, 489.4103 393 DTA_int_01 489.8171 Mm-hm. 490.1132 394 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 490.2423 you don't always get 'em all answered. Most the [time] the answer's, no, you might [say.] (laughing) 493.8107 395 DTA_int_01 491.8017 [Oh.] 492.0687 396 DTA_int_01 492.0687 (pause 1.69) 493.7618 397 DTA_int_01 493.7618 [Yeah.] 494.0676 398 DTA_int_01 494.1808 Well what about things like the chicken bone? Like, we used 496.2606 399 DTA_int_01 496.2606 (pause 0.15) 496.4135 400 DTA_int_01 496.4135 pulling [the chicken bone. We didn't actually believe it.] 498.0647 401 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 496.6150 [No. No.] 498.3767 402 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 499.0404 No, I don't fool with anything like that. 500.7680 403 DTA_int_01 501.0433 Uh-huh. 501.3125 404 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 501.3155 Never did even b- I'm a convert to the faith, and [even before] I became a, 504.7468 405 DTA_int_01 503.7711 [Oh.] 504.0338 406 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 505.4196 uh, 506.0585 407 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 506.0585 (pause 1.17) 507.2299 408 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 507.2299 I just 507.6917 409 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 507.6917 (pause 0.33) 508.0190 410 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 508.0190 didn't buy that. 508.6307 411 DTA_int_01 508.9789 Hm. 509.2848 412 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 510.3828 If anything, uh, you might say I'm superstitious about those [superstitions.] 513.9143 413 DTA_int_01 513.6917 [] 513.8934 414 DTA_int_01 514.6394 Yeah. 514.9116 415 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 515.2328 I [believe you fool around] with something that- I was Baptist. 517.8994 416 DTA_int_01 515.5693 [What were you before?] 516.2757 417 DTA_int_01 517.9300 Uh-huh. 518.2144 418 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 518.5968 And I feel if you fool around with something like that you'll do yourself more harm in God's eye than you would if you went ahead and- 523.3921 419 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 523.3921 (pause 0.46) 523.8570 420 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 523.8570 depended on him. 524.6436 421 DTA_int_01 524.8476 Mm-hm. 525.1014 422 DTA_int_01 525.1014 (pause 0.46) 525.5602 423 DTA_int_01 525.5602 Yeah, that's good. 526.2147 424 DTA_int_01 526.2147 (pause 0.65) 526.8662 425 DTA_int_01 526.8662 Um, 527.1624 426 DTA_int_01 527.1624 (pause 0.33) 527.4928 427 DTA_int_01 527.4928 tell me about, 527.9882 428 DTA_int_01 527.9882 (pause 0.13) 528.1198 429 DTA_int_01 528.1198 uh, well let's see, your school when you went to school. What were some of the things you studied 531.8905 430 DTA_int_01 531.8905 (pause 0.54) 532.4257 431 DTA_int_01 532.4257 in grade school and in high school? 533.8624 432 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 534.0739 Well in grade school it was regular grade school, 536.3204 433 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 536.3204 (pause 0.71) 537.0280 434 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 537.0280 uh, set up, you know. 538.5878 435 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 538.5878 (pause 0.67) 539.2603 436 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 539.2603 Reading, writing, and arithmetic. 540.8905 437 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 540.8905 (pause 1.05) 541.9361 438 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 541.9361 And then in high school, 543.2390 439 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 543.2390 (pause 1.20) 544.4380 440 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 544.4380 college prep course. 545.6824 441 DTA_int_01 545.9362 Mm-hm. 546.2360 442 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 546.5510 I added to it, debating. 548.0065 443 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 548.0065 (pause 1.70) 549.7039 444 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 549.7039 And, um, 550.6735 445 DTA_int_01 552.8110 Did you have literature or? 553.8559 446 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 554.1502 oh, yes. 554.8613 447 DTA_int_01 555.0127 Hm. 555.2207 448 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 555.3491 That was apart of the course, you [see. I didn't do anything special] with literature. 558.7896 449 DTA_int_01 556.8527 [All] 557.1415 450 DTA_int_01 557.1415 (pause 0.11) 557.2481 451 DTA_int_01 557.2481 [kinds of literature?] 558.0304 452 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 559.6307 Um, 560.2787 453 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 560.2787 (pause 1.96) 562.2392 454 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 562.2392 didn't do anything special with it. 563.6212 455 DTA_int_01 563.8567 Uh-huh. 564.1350 456 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 564.8507 It was just plain literature. 566.1380 457 DTA_int_01 566.3918 Mm-hm. 566.6922 458 DTA_int_01 566.6922 (pause 0.42) 567.1106 459 DTA_int_01 567.1106 But I mean, 567.6305 460 DTA_int_01 567.6305 (pause 0.35) 567.9759 461 DTA_int_01 567.9759 didn't have any like, 568.9728 462 DTA_int_01 568.9728 (pause 0.40) 569.3735 463 DTA_int_01 569.3735 American and? 570.2941 464 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 570.5785 Well yes, i- th- this was it. You had English and- and you had the- you had the English literature, 575.6059 465 DTA_int_01 575.9607 [Mm-hm.] 576.2543 466 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 576.0402 [then you] had the American literature. 577.6949 467 DTA_int_01 577.9697 Mm-hm. 578.2450 468 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 578.6243 Uh, 579.3644 469 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 579.3644 (pause 0.99) 580.3507 470 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 580.3507 that was all. 580.9453 471 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 580.9453 (pause 0.65) 581.5990 472 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 581.5990 Just a regular high school course. Public high school. 584.2648 473 DTA_int_01 584.5325 In grade school did you, uh, study about different countries and 587.4866 474 DTA_int_01 587.4866 (pause 0.31) 587.7925 475 DTA_int_01 587.7925 maps and that, and so [forth?] 589.2300 476 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 588.9547 [Y- yes, uh-huh.] 590.2297 477 DTA_int_01 589.8896 [What do you call] that? 590.5814 478 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 590.7466 Uh-huh, g- geography. 592.0556 479 DTA_int_01 592.2361 Uh-huh. 592.5191 480 DTA_int_01 592.5191 (pause 0.47) 592.9911 481 DTA_int_01 592.9911 And, uh, 593.5447 482 DTA_int_01 593.5447 (pause 0.30) 593.8475 483 DTA_int_01 593.8475 study about, 594.4990 484 DTA_int_01 594.4990 (pause 0.30) 594.8018 485 DTA_int_01 594.8018 well George Washington, 596.0064 486 DTA_int_01 596.0064 (pause 0.54) 596.5447 487 DTA_int_01 596.5447 Lincoln. 596.9177 488 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 597.0280 Yes. 597.6642 489 DTA_int_01 597.6642 [Call this] 598.2229 490 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 597.8354 [Mm-hm.] 598.2229 491 DTA_int_01 598.5114 [course?] 598.8447 492 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 598.6704 [Mm-hm.] 598.9946 493 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 599.6518 That all was, uh- oh, you- you want [the name of it?] 602.1961 494 DTA_int_01 601.5297 [Yeah, I want the course.] Yeah. 602.4414 495 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 603.0739 I believe that came along with our, um, 605.4621 496 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 605.4621 (pause 0.71) 606.1717 497 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 606.1717 I [don't believe] they call it history. 607.7224 498 DTA_int_01 606.3155 [Yeah.] 606.5626 499 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 608.0523 They could've called it history. 609.4439 500 DTA_int_01 609.6305 Uh-huh. 609.9149 501 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 610.1229 I'm not sure. 610.8019 502 DTA_int_01 611.7129 And, uh, 612.1962 503 DTA_int_01 612.1962 (pause 0.55) 612.7498 504 DTA_int_01 612.7498 well when you're starting out, at least, 614.1746 505 DTA_int_01 614.1746 (pause 0.27) 614.4438 506 DTA_int_01 614.4438 would- 614.6212 507 DTA_int_01 614.6212 (pause 0.23) 614.8475 508 DTA_int_01 614.8475 could begin to work with numbers. You, uh, 616.5583 509 DTA_int_01 616.5583 (pause 0.69) 617.2511 510 DTA_int_01 617.2511 call this what? 617.8403 511 DTA_int_01 617.8403 (pause 0.15) 617.9882 512 DTA_int_01 617.9882 What [is it called?] 618.6794 513 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 618.2604 [Oh, you're] getting the- 619.3401 514 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 619.8141 I see. 620.4287 515 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 620.4287 (pause 0.31) 620.7435 516 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 620.7435 Arithmetic. 621.5082 517 DTA_int_01 621.5846 Yeah, I just [want the name.] 622.5756 518 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 622.0917 [Mm-hm. ] 623.2615 519 DTA_int_01 623.7313 And, uh, 624.1564 520 DTA_int_01 624.1564 (pause 0.56) 624.7161 521 DTA_int_01 624.7161 from your seat in- 625.5266 522 DTA_int_01 625.5266 (pause 0.18) 625.7040 523 DTA_int_01 625.7040 in the classroom, can you remember some of the things you used to see around the room? 628.6765 524 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 630.9669 Not particularly. 632.1257 525 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 632.1257 (pause 0.49) 632.6151 526 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 632.6151 I, uh, saw practically everything that was to be seen, I [guess. I was] a- 636.2268 527 DTA_int_01 635.7215 [] 636.0799 528 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 636.3277 quite a nosy person. 637.4961 529 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 637.4961 (pause 0.57) 638.0706 530 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 638.0706 You mean, you want me to say blackboard, maps? 641.0253 531 DTA_int_01 641.2327 Yeah. 641.5172 532 DTA_int_01 641.5172 (pause 0.11) 641.6273 533 DTA_int_01 641.6273 [Uh-huh.] 641.8822 534 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 641.8414 [] 642.1595 535 DTA_int_01 642.2023 [Mm-hm.] 642.6134 536 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 642.3277 [Well,] these were always in evident. 644.0890 537 DTA_int_01 644.3918 Uh-huh. And [the teacher sat at a?] 645.9578 538 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 644.8444 [/You'd hear/ /?/.] 645.8048 539 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 646.7958 A desk. 647.3429 540 DTA_int_01 648.8201 And could it be one desk, 649.9147 541 DTA_int_01 649.9147 (pause 0.10) 650.0186 542 DTA_int_01 650.0186 two? 650.3643 543 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 651.7589 To a classroom. 652.5878 544 DTA_int_01 653.1624 Yeah, uh, but 653.7221 545 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 653.8536 Usually. 654.3491 546 DTA_int_01 654.3491 if it was two of these. 655.4318 547 DTA_int_01 655.4318 (pause 1.83) 657.2665 548 DTA_int_01 657.2665 One desk, and if there were two of the same thing, 659.2736 549 DTA_int_01 659.2736 (pause 0.48) 659.7527 550 DTA_int_01 659.7527 you'd have two? 660.2329 551 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 660.3736 Two desks? 661.1780 552 DTA_int_01 661.3921 Uh-huh. 661.6562 553 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 661.7740 662.0401 554 DTA_int_01 662.0676 We just wanted the 662.5886 555 DTA_int_01 662.5886 (pause 0.16) 662.7466 556 DTA_int_01 662.7466 plural 663.1399 557 DTA_int_01 663.1399 (pause 0.23) 663.3675 558 DTA_int_01 663.3675 [form.] 663.6207 559 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 663.5296 [Mm-hm.] 663.7834 560 DTA_int_01 665.8536 Um, 666.2696 561 DTA_int_01 666.2696 (pause 1.33) 667.6000 562 DTA_int_01 667.6000 now if you walk- 668.1104 563 DTA_int_01 668.1104 (pause 0.13) 668.2419 564 DTA_int_01 668.2419 if you walk outside the classroom you're in a? 670.4930 565 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 671.2508 Hall. 671.7680 566 DTA_int_01 671.8597 Uh-huh. 672.1319 567 DTA_int_01 672.1319 (pause 0.17) 672.3063 568 DTA_int_01 672.3063 And can you also- the things that were in the hall? 674.0095 569 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 675.3797 Usually lockers. 676.7101 570 DTA_int_01 677.1899 Mm-hm. 677.4682 571 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 678.3858 Oh, there was a water fountain. 679.8141 572 DTA_int_01 681.1472 Anything else? 681.7147 573 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 681.7742 And I don't say water (atypical pronunciation) like my son does that's coming in in the morning. He's from the east- he's coming in from New York. 687.1034 574 DTA_int_01 687.3154 [Uh-huh.] 687.5302 575 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 687.4225 [And] he's changed his whole 688.8607 576 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 689.4346 method of speaking. (laughing) 690.6641 577 DTA_int_01 690.9455 [Oh.] 691.1657 578 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 691.0587 [Now] it's water (atypical pronunciation) instead of water. 692.9025 579 DTA_int_01 693.2726 Oh, . 693.7719 580 DTA_int_01 693.7719 (pause 0.97) 694.7438 581 DTA_int_01 694.7438 And then 695.1012 582 DTA_int_01 695.1012 (pause 0.56) 695.6579 583 DTA_int_01 695.6579 were there anything- 696.4473 584 DTA_int_01 696.4473 (pause 0.57) 697.0220 585 DTA_int_01 697.0220 were there, uh, any, uh, 698.0431 586 DTA_int_01 698.0431 (pause 0.20) 698.2450 587 DTA_int_01 698.2450 was there any equipment outside the school the kids played on? 700.5641 588 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 700.9518 The playground and- of course on our playground we had- um, 704.2755 589 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 704.2755 (pause 0.57) 704.8414 590 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 704.8414 there were no swings there. 706.1229 591 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 706.1229 (pause 0.80) 706.9273 592 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 706.9273 We did have some bars. 708.4561 593 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 708.4561 (pause 1.76) 710.2174 594 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 710.2174 And it was all gravel. 711.5509 595 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 711.5509 (pause 0.64) 712.1871 596 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 712.1871 Fence. 712.8590 597 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 712.8590 (pause 1.93) 714.7926 598 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 714.7926 And that was all. 715.3339 599 DTA_int_01 715.3462 Do you have any special names of [the bars?] 716.7815 600 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 716.3306 [Oh, now] that's in grade school. In high school 718.6935 601 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 719.2725 we had a tennis court. 720.8446 602 DTA_int_01 721.0556 Hm. 721.2965 603 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 721.6031 And we had the- um, 723.0703 604 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 723.0703 (pause 1.29) 724.3615 605 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 724.3615 the- um, 725.4285 606 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 725.4285 (pause 0.50) 725.9331 607 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 725.9331 the bowling 726.7436 608 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 726.7436 (pause 0.35) 727.0923 609 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 727.0923 court was there. 727.9579 610 DTA_int_01 728.2419 Uh-huh. 728.4927 611 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 728.8414 And we had, uh, hockey 730.4838 612 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 730.4838 (pause 1.47) 731.9515 613 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 731.9515 court. 732.5436 614 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 732.5436 (pause 0.14) 732.6855 615 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 732.6855 Yeah. 732.9180 616 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 732.9180 (pause 0.46) 733.3829 617 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 733.3829 Baseball diamond. 734.2235 618 DTA_int_01 734.7859 Oh yeah. 735.0558 619 DTA_int_01 735.0558 (pause 2.09) 737.1501 620 DTA_int_01 737.1501 [/?/.] 737.3184 621 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 737.2327 [/Glovel-/] a lovely lawn and a cannon. [] 740.9086 622 DTA_int_01 739.8443 [] 740.2052 623 DTA_int_01 740.2052 (pause 0.30) 740.5073 624 DTA_int_01 740.5073 [A cannon?] 740.8713 625 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 741.0340 [Mm-hm.] 741.4622 626 DTA_int_01 741.4225 [Oh.] 741.7192 627 DTA_int_01 742.8600 Um, 743.1624 628 DTA_int_01 743.1624 (pause 0.37) 743.5294 629 DTA_int_01 743.5294 what do- uh, what do the kids do after school was out? 745.8528 630 DTA_int_01 745.8528 (pause 0.32) 746.1777 631 DTA_int_01 746.1777 What- what did they used to do when- 747.6366 632 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 748.0311 Play. 748.5083 633 DTA_int_01 748.7281 Uh-huh. 749.0033 634 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 749.6793 Oh, these here? 750.6335 635 DTA_int_01 750.9149 Well, yeah. These here too. 752.3489 636 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 752.7098 Well they- they play after their chores are done. 755.2379 637 DTA_int_01 755.4529 Uh-huh. 755.7007 638 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 755.9117 Sometimes they don't get them done, they play. 757.7770 639 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 757.7770 (pause 0.27) 758.0431 640 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 758.0431 [] 758.9882 641 DTA_int_01 758.1593 [] 758.7404 642 DTA_int_01 759.8537 Um, 760.1535 643 DTA_int_01 760.1535 (pause 0.33) 760.4807 644 DTA_int_01 760.4807 did you ever have a teacher who hollered a lot? 761.8957 645 DTA_int_01 761.8957 (pause 0.52) 762.4194 646 DTA_int_01 762.4194 Or an- 762.7688 647 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 763.5230 We did once, in grade school I had a 765.9883 648 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 765.9883 (pause 0.11) 766.0984 649 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 766.0984 teacher named Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/. 767.6092 650 DTA_int_01 767.9148 Mm-hm. 768.2145 651 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 768.5326 And, uh, she had far too many youngsters in her room. 771.7620 652 DTA_int_01 772.0801 Oh. 772.3003 653 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 772.5113 And about all she 773.4621 654 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 773.4621 (pause 0.29) 773.7496 655 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 773.7496 was able to teach us was to pick up the litter 775.8386 656 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 775.8386 (pause 1.06) 776.8995 657 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 776.8995 and shut up the fuss. [] 779.0675 658 DTA_int_01 778.2880 [Yeah.] 778.5725 659 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 779.5997 I'll remember her for that. 780.8384 660 DTA_int_01 780.9730 [] 781.3981 661 DTA_int_01 781.3981 (pause 1.03) 782.4315 662 DTA_int_01 782.4315 Well someone's got a real job on her hand. 784.1963 663 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 784.2911 Mm-hm. 785.0247 664 DTA_int_01 785.4590 Uh, 785.7741 665 DTA_int_01 785.7741 (pause 1.03) 786.8078 666 DTA_int_01 786.8078 uh, 787.1184 667 DTA_int_01 787.1184 (pause 0.22) 787.3400 668 DTA_int_01 787.3400 tell me about the best teacher you think you ever had. 789.1441 669 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 789.6824 Uh, Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. 790.7927 670 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 790.7927 (pause 0.44) 791.2296 671 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 791.2296 He was, um, 792.2571 672 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 792.2571 (pause 1.42) 793.6795 673 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 793.6795 a shell-shock 794.9239 674 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 794.9239 (pause 0.28) 795.1992 675 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 795.1992 veteran of World War One. 797.5080 676 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 797.5080 (pause 1.31) 798.8170 677 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 798.8170 And, um, 799.5949 678 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 799.5949 (pause 0.17) 799.7682 679 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 799.7682 because of this 800.8903 680 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 800.8903 (pause 1.73) 802.6240 681 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 802.6240 accident you might say, to a g- 804.0891 682 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 804.0891 (pause 0.10) 804.1931 683 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 804.1931 that he'd come into or the wound that he had received, 807.0860 684 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 807.0860 (pause 0.85) 807.9363 685 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 807.9363 he had decided to go back and study 809.9759 686 DTA_int_01 810.4255 Hm. 810.5977 687 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 810.7161 the cause of the war. 812.1440 688 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 812.1440 (pause 0.89) 813.0310 689 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 813.0310 And 813.4622 690 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 813.4622 (pause 0.90) 814.3584 691 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 814.3584 n- this is what we were discussing in here this morning. 816.7038 692 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 816.7038 (pause 0.24) 816.9393 693 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 816.9393 My husband has come in contact with someone that was 819.0296 694 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 819.0296 (pause 0.67) 819.6977 695 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 819.6977 on- um, 820.6889 696 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 820.6889 (pause 0.57) 821.2602 697 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 821.2602 I guess he said the Mohawk during the, uh, World- 823.9150 698 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 823.9150 (pause 0.16) 824.0798 699 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 824.0798 during the, um, 824.9940 700 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 824.9940 (pause 0.88) 825.8714 701 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 825.8714 this last battle- Pearl Harbor. 827.4034 702 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 827.4034 (pause 0.70) 828.1074 703 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 828.1074 And we're quite interested in things like this. 830.1899 704 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 830.1899 (pause 0.55) 830.7373 705 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 830.7373 And, uh, so he, um, 832.7162 706 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 832.7162 (pause 0.18) 832.8967 707 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 832.8967 was telling us about that and Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, 834.5876 708 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 834.5876 (pause 0.71) 835.2972 709 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 835.2972 uh, gave us a break down on 837.0646 710 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 837.0646 (pause 0.18) 837.2420 711 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 837.2420 a lot of the history and back 839.0343 712 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 839.0343 (pause 0.95) 839.9851 713 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 839.9851 of World War One. 841.2849 714 DTA_int_01 841.6244 Mm-hm. 841.8595 715 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 841.8600 And then he brought us right up 843.0616 716 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 843.0616 (pause 0.16) 843.2175 717 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 843.2175 to and through it. 844.0709 718 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 844.0709 (pause 0.56) 844.6336 719 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 844.6336 And this was 845.1684 720 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 845.1684 (pause 0.14) 845.3122 721 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 845.3122 extremely interesting. 846.5478 722 DTA_int_01 846.7619 Was this in high school or was it in [college?] 848.2449 723 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 847.9544 [This was] in high school. 848.9881 724 DTA_int_01 848.9973 Hm. 849.1931 725 DTA_int_01 849.1931 (pause 1.99) 851.1837 726 DTA_int_01 851.1837 Hm, it sounds good. 851.9361 727 DTA_int_01 851.9361 (pause 0.64) 852.5718 728 DTA_int_01 852.5718 Um, 852.8635 729 DTA_int_01 852.8635 (pause 0.40) 853.2666 730 DTA_int_01 853.2666 w- 853.4409 731 DTA_int_01 853.4409 (pause 0.37) 853.8154 732 DTA_int_01 853.8154 is there a- 854.1654 733 DTA_int_01 854.1654 (pause 0.12) 854.2816 734 DTA_int_01 854.2816 ever a teacher you just couldn't get along with? 856.1259 735 DTA_int_01 856.1259 (pause 0.09) 856.2207 736 DTA_int_01 856.2207 Had a hard time, 856.7193 737 DTA_int_01 856.7193 (pause 1.13) 857.8474 738 DTA_int_01 857.8474 just couldn't stand? 858.5324 739 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 859.6030 No. 860.2847 740 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 860.2847 (pause 0.63) 860.9147 741 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 860.9147 I, uh, 861.6505 742 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 861.6505 (pause 0.61) 862.2574 743 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 862.2574 didn't have that unpleasant experience. 864.3219 744 DTA_int_01 864.4469 Mm-hm. 864.7191 745 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 865.3767 There were teachers that I didn't like, 867.2212 746 DTA_int_01 867.4836 Mm-hm. 867.7803 747 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 868.0341 but, uh, I could get along with them. 869.9687 748 DTA_int_01 870.2236 Mm-hm. 870.4989 749 DTA_int_01 870.4989 (pause 1.17) 871.6673 750 DTA_int_01 871.6673 Um, what about was there 872.8780 751 DTA_int_01 872.8780 (pause 0.12) 872.9942 752 DTA_int_01 872.9942 any- 873.2756 753 DTA_int_01 873.2756 (pause 0.26) 873.5356 754 DTA_int_01 873.5356 ever a time when the kids tricked the teacher? 875.4367 755 DTA_int_01 875.4367 (pause 0.47) 875.9025 756 DTA_int_01 875.9025 Pull a trick on a teacher? 877.0097 757 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 877.3798 No, I think I was the only one guilty of that. 879.3418 758 DTA_int_01 879.6121 [] 880.1381 759 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 879.9240 [In] biology we were going to dis- 881.9178 760 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 882.1594 dissect a frog. 883.7267 761 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 883.7267 (pause 1.26) 884.9881 762 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 884.9881 And, uh, 885.9821 763 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 885.9821 (pause 0.42) 886.4042 764 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 886.4042 I didn't think I wanted to be on hand when this frog was cut open. 890.1731 765 DTA_int_01 890.5936 Uh-huh. 890.8658 766 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 891.2481 So 891.7772 767 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 891.7772 (pause 0.18) 891.9546 768 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 891.9546 I was sick that day. 893.0430 769 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 893.0430 (pause 1.33) 894.3704 770 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 894.3704 That was about the only thing. I got my lesson from somebody else. 897.2750 771 DTA_int_01 897.5570 [] 898.2725 772 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 897.8476 [] 898.2394 773 DTA_int_01 899.8964 Um, 900.2603 774 DTA_int_01 900.2603 (pause 0.54) 900.8047 775 DTA_int_01 900.8047 who was the smartest- 901.6152 776 DTA_int_01 901.6152 (pause 0.20) 901.8110 777 DTA_int_01 901.8110 who was the smartest kid in your class when you 903.5601 778 DTA_int_01 903.5601 (pause 0.24) 903.7986 779 DTA_int_01 903.7986 were in school? 904.5816 780 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 906.1563 Well it wasn't me. 907.1901 781 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 907.1901 (pause 0.34) 907.5265 782 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 907.5265 [] 908.2082 783 DTA_int_01 908.1042 [] 908.4873 784 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 908.8872 I couldn't tell you exactly who. 910.7498 785 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 910.7498 (pause 5.09) 915.8353 786 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 915.8353 Possibly, um- 917.4896 787 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 917.4896 (pause 2.16) 919.6519 788 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 919.6519 I really couldn't say. 920.6678 789 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 920.6678 (pause 0.40) 921.0707 790 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 921.0707 I really don't remember who you would- you might say was the smartest in school. 924.4928 791 DTA_int_01 924.6426 /Oh/. 924.8445 792 DTA_int_01 924.8445 (pause 0.23) 925.0710 793 DTA_int_01 925.0710 [/?/.] 925.3763 794 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 925.1167 [These] things didn't really mean too much to me. 926.8780 795 DTA_int_01 927.2573 Uh-huh. 927.5325 796 DTA_int_01 927.5325 (pause 0.47) 928.0035 797 DTA_int_01 928.0035 What about some of the kids that- 928.9971 798 DTA_int_01 928.9971 (pause 0.61) 929.6027 799 DTA_int_01 929.6027 well, would do a little a bit 930.6090 800 DTA_int_01 930.6090 (pause 0.28) 930.8934 801 DTA_int_01 930.8934 better than- what would the teacher- how would the teacher reward them? 933.3001 802 DTA_int_01 933.3001 (pause 0.45) 933.7497 803 DTA_int_01 933.7497 In any special way, or? 934.8110 804 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 935.8474 I never noticed any extra 937.7253 805 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 937.7253 (pause 1.82) 939.5417 806 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 939.5417 rewards being given to anyone. 941.6027 807 DTA_int_01 941.7801 Mm-hm. 941.9789 808 DTA_int_01 941.9789 (pause 0.27) 942.2511 809 DTA_int_01 942.2511 What about some people who had trouble 943.9757 810 DTA_int_01 943.9757 (pause 0.19) 944.1684 811 DTA_int_01 944.1684 with school and so forth? 945.5413 812 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 945.6518 Usually they were given extra help. 947.5507 813 DTA_int_01 947.6547 Uh-huh. 947.9188 814 DTA_int_01 947.9188 (pause 0.90) 948.8170 815 DTA_int_01 948.8170 There were some, 949.4654 816 DTA_int_01 949.4654 (pause 0.21) 949.6764 817 DTA_int_01 949.6764 uh, like that around? 950.6914 818 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 951.8445 Oh yes. I imagine there are some of those in every class. Of course in high school, you didn't have the same 957.0126 819 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 957.0126 (pause 0.59) 957.6029 820 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 957.6029 class all the time and in grade school- I mean, you didn't have the same people in your class all the time. 962.0369 821 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 962.0369 (pause 0.54) 962.5752 822 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 962.5752 In grade school, 963.6796 823 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 963.6796 (pause 0.16) 963.8384 824 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 963.8384 uh, this wasn't as evident as it was possibly in high school that someone was getting extra help. 968.3550 825 DTA_int_01 968.5538 Mm-hm. 968.8199 826 DTA_int_01 968.8199 (pause 1.62) 970.4439 827 DTA_int_01 970.4439 What time did you used to get out of school? 971.8505 828 DTA_int_01 971.8505 (pause 0.54) 972.3918 829 DTA_int_01 972.3918 Remember that? 972.8842 830 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 972.8934 In grade school? 973.7100 831 DTA_int_01 973.9451 Yeah. 974.1042 832 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 974.3030 Three thirty. 974.9392 833 DTA_int_01 975.0890 Uh-huh. And then fifteen minutes after that would be? 976.8320 834 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 979.4195 Three forty-five. 980.5263 835 DTA_int_01 980.5263 Uh-huh. 980.7373 836 DTA_int_01 980.7373 (pause 0.10) 980.8382 837 DTA_int_01 980.8382 A quarter of an hour later? 981.6451 838 DTA_int_01 981.6451 (pause 0.57) 982.2176 839 DTA_int_01 982.2176 Er- after- 982.6917 840 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 982.7314 Be four o'clock. 983.7648 841 DTA_int_01 983.9483 uh-huh. 984.2236 842 DTA_int_01 984.2236 (pause 0.77) 984.9943 843 DTA_int_01 984.9943 Um, 985.2513 844 DTA_int_01 985.2513 (pause 0.12) 985.3675 845 DTA_int_01 985.3675 I'm trying to get- uh, 986.4345 846 DTA_int_01 986.4345 (pause 0.72) 987.1594 847 DTA_int_01 987.1594 well, see- 987.7558 848 DTA_int_01 987.7558 (pause 0.18) 987.9343 849 DTA_int_01 987.9343 okay, three thirty and then a quarter of an hour later would be? 990.0981 850 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 990.7649 Three forty-five. 991.6733 851 DTA_int_01 992.1164 Uh-huh. 992.3856 852 DTA_int_01 992.3856 (pause 0.22) 992.6088 853 DTA_int_01 992.6088 You wouldn't call it, uh, 993.4680 854 DTA_int_01 993.4680 (pause 0.54) 994.0096 855 DTA_int_01 994.0096 anything by quarters? 994.8325 856 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 996.1227 No. I don't 997.5112 857 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 997.5112 (pause 0.13) 997.6366 858 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 997.6366 think, uh, well you want me to say a quarter to four? 1000.4391 859 DTA_int_01 1000.6375 Yeah. 1000.9262 860 DTA_int_01 1000.9262 (pause 0.15) 1001.0791 861 DTA_int_01 1001.0791 Well see, we're interested- some people say quarter of. 1002.6611 862 DTA_int_01 1002.6611 (pause 0.28) 1002.9388 863 DTA_int_01 1002.9388 Pretty [interesting /??/.] 1004.0501 864 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1003.5764 [No.] I would say a quarter to four. 1005.4009 865 DTA_int_01 1006.3995 Okay. 1006.7579 866 DTA_int_01 1006.7579 (pause 0.74) 1007.4987 867 DTA_int_01 1007.4987 Um, 1007.8312 868 DTA_int_01 1007.8312 (pause 0.30) 1008.1333 869 DTA_int_01 1008.1333 now, 1008.4231 870 DTA_int_01 1008.4231 (pause 0.67) 1009.0974 871 DTA_int_01 1009.0974 uh, 1009.4117 872 DTA_int_01 1009.4117 (pause 0.74) 1010.1561 873 DTA_int_01 1010.1561 is there a group of p- people that you, 1011.9998 874 DTA_int_01 1011.9998 (pause 0.12) 1012.1218 875 DTA_int_01 1012.1218 um, do things with 1013.2480 876 DTA_int_01 1013.2480 (pause 0.79) 1014.0356 877 DTA_int_01 1014.0356 now and, 1014.5635 878 DTA_int_01 1014.5635 (pause 0.19) 1014.7557 879 DTA_int_01 1014.7557 well you probably go places together? 1016.2546 880 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1017.8564 Uh, we only have one, 1019.9594 881 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1019.9594 (pause 0.65) 1020.6123 882 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1020.6123 uh, you might say personal friend, and 1023.4231 883 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1023.4231 (pause 0.20) 1023.6275 884 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1023.6275 we don't do too much together. We more or less 1026.0204 885 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1026.0204 (pause 0.12) 1026.1394 886 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1026.1394 sit and talk. 1027.3381 887 DTA_int_01 1027.4544 Mm-hm. 1027.6680 888 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1028.5047 We're quite conversationalists, we love to run our mouths. 1032.3163 889 DTA_int_01 1032.3163 Mm-hm. 1032.6062 890 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1033.3049 Uh, I do work with the National Council of Catholic Women. That is the DACCW of Detroit, our staffs and council. 1040.1897 891 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1040.1897 (pause 0.97) 1041.1607 892 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1041.1607 And, um, 1042.0699 893 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1042.0699 (pause 0.39) 1042.4574 894 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1042.4574 [in that] I've held several, 1044.0570 895 DTA_int_01 1042.4574 [] 1042.8827 896 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1044.4262 [um,] 1044.8989 897 DTA_int_01 1044.4262 [] 1044.9906 898 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1046.2782 posts, you might say. I've been a 1048.2835 899 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1048.2835 (pause 0.67) 1048.9517 900 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1048.9517 chairman of several committees. 1050.4689 901 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1050.4689 (pause 1.01) 1051.4788 902 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1051.4788 And have held 1052.1592 903 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1052.1592 (pause 0.52) 1052.6787 904 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1052.6787 three elective offices. 1054.4376 905 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1054.4376 (pause 1.52) 1055.9624 906 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1055.9624 And this is a extent of the things that I do. My main hobby is photography. 1059.8655 907 DTA_int_01 1060.0760 Hm. 1060.3503 908 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1061.0249 But, uh, I don't get a chance to do very much of [this.] 1063.5348 909 DTA_int_01 1063.3323 [Do you do] a photography club or anything like this? 1065.1546 910 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1065.2339 No. 1065.8106 911 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1065.8106 (pause 0.09) 1065.9021 912 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1065.9021 No, I do this all alone. My 1067.6390 913 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1067.6390 (pause 0.12) 1067.7549 914 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1067.7549 dark room is upstairs in the hallway. 1069.4879 915 DTA_int_01 1069.5093 Oh. 1069.9334 916 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1070.8312 And I 1071.4552 917 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1071.4552 (pause 0.61) 1072.0608 918 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1072.0608 [spot] 1072.3695 919 DTA_int_01 1072.1023 [That's my father's] 1072.7871 920 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1072.5469 [anything.] 1073.0341 921 DTA_int_01 1073.0768 passion too. 1073.8750 922 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1074.2004 [I didn't know that.] 1074.7770 923 DTA_int_01 1074.2553 [/?/] 1074.6153 924 DTA_int_01 1077.3926 Um, 1077.7160 925 DTA_int_01 1077.7160 (pause 3.04) 1080.7551 926 DTA_int_01 1080.7551 let's see. 1081.2686 927 DTA_int_01 1081.2686 (pause 0.23) 1081.4971 928 DTA_int_01 1081.4971 I- 1081.7259 929 DTA_int_01 1081.7259 (pause 0.18) 1081.9067 930 DTA_int_01 1081.9067 bout- are- are the people that 1083.4078 931 DTA_int_01 1083.4078 (pause 0.14) 1083.5482 932 DTA_int_01 1083.5482 you 1083.9052 933 DTA_int_01 1083.9052 (pause 0.14) 1084.0486 934 DTA_int_01 1084.0486 are with most the time, 1084.9914 935 DTA_int_01 1084.9914 (pause 0.22) 1085.2080 936 DTA_int_01 1085.2080 are they- 1085.4346 937 DTA_int_01 1085.4346 (pause 0.11) 1085.5474 938 DTA_int_01 1085.5474 they're about- 1085.9990 939 DTA_int_01 1085.9990 (pause 0.17) 1086.1659 940 DTA_int_01 1086.1659 they're 1086.4536 941 DTA_int_01 1086.4536 (pause 0.14) 1086.5909 942 DTA_int_01 1086.5909 your- 1086.8100 943 DTA_int_01 1086.8100 (pause 0.28) 1087.0913 944 DTA_int_01 1087.0913 same age as you are, and 1088.2412 945 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1088.6664 [No, they vary] in ages and now this 1090.8703 946 DTA_int_01 1088.7183 [/I guess older than you are/?] 1089.7454 947 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1091.1622 couple that I said that are our best friends, they're younger than 1093.7686 948 DTA_int_01 1094.1744 Hm. 1094.4559 949 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1094.8922 we are. 1095.4933 950 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1095.4933 (pause 0.27) 1095.7648 951 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1095.7648 For the most if our friends are either older- 1098.2950 952 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1098.2950 (pause 0.85) 1099.1432 953 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1099.1432 in our younger 1100.0280 954 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1100.0280 (pause 0.11) 1100.1348 955 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1100.1348 years our friends were all much older. 1102.1706 956 DTA_int_01 1102.3720 Mm. 1102.5734 957 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1102.7015 And now our friends are much younger. 1104.5146 958 DTA_int_01 1104.8289 Hm. 1105.0821 959 DTA_int_01 1105.0821 (pause 2.71) 1107.7953 960 DTA_int_01 1107.7953 Um, 1108.1462 961 DTA_int_01 1108.1462 (pause 0.72) 1108.8693 962 DTA_int_01 1108.8693 now 1109.1624 963 DTA_int_01 1109.1624 (pause 0.44) 1109.6024 964 DTA_int_01 1109.6024 in, uh, 1110.2075 965 DTA_int_01 1110.2075 (pause 0.14) 1110.3512 966 DTA_int_01 1110.3512 in your- 1110.8228 967 DTA_int_01 1110.8228 (pause 0.20) 1111.0242 968 DTA_int_01 1111.0242 the people that you 1111.7900 969 DTA_int_01 1111.7900 (pause 0.20) 1111.9852 970 DTA_int_01 1111.9852 are with, 1112.3829 971 DTA_int_01 1112.3829 (pause 0.31) 1112.6908 972 DTA_int_01 1112.6908 do they speak, 1113.2748 973 DTA_int_01 1113.2748 (pause 0.11) 1113.3834 974 DTA_int_01 1113.3834 uh, 1113.6824 975 DTA_int_01 1113.6824 (pause 0.18) 1113.8624 976 DTA_int_01 1113.8624 other languages like Hungarian, Polish, Spanish, and so [forth?] 1116.6672 977 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1116.6092 [Uh,] I have one Polish friend. 1118.7183 978 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1119.2004 And she tried to teach me to speak Polish. 1121.4834 979 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1121.4834 (pause 0.83) 1122.3102 980 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1122.3102 I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood, 1124.1195 981 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1124.1195 (pause 0.21) 1124.3308 982 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1124.3308 and my mother was afraid I'd sp- 1125.7496 983 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1125.7496 (pause 0.09) 1125.8411 984 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1125.8411 learn to speak 1126.5154 985 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1126.5154 (pause 0.71) 1127.2232 986 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1127.2232 the Jewish language before I learned to speak English. 1129.5104 987 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1129.5104 (pause 0.95) 1130.4559 988 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1130.4559 Um, 1131.0753 989 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1131.0753 (pause 1.04) 1132.1157 990 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1132.1157 then this one 1133.0096 991 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1133.0096 (pause 0.18) 1133.1866 992 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1133.1866 couple that I was talking about, they speak Fren- uh, Spanish. 1136.4284 993 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1136.4284 (pause 0.68) 1137.1119 994 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1137.1119 But we don't. 1137.7496 995 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1137.7496 (pause 0.17) 1137.9174 996 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1137.9174 I don't. 1138.5306 997 DTA_int_01 1139.0218 Uh-huh. 1139.2576 998 DTA_int_01 1139.2576 (pause 0.40) 1139.6573 999 DTA_int_01 1139.6573 [But- but you-] 1140.3474 1000 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1139.8617 [I don't even] attempt it. 1140.9235 1001 DTA_int_01 1141.1798 yeah. 1141.3689 1002 DTA_int_01 1141.3689 (pause 0.61) 1141.9761 1003 DTA_int_01 1141.9761 But- 1142.0837 1004 DTA_int_01 1142.0837 (pause 0.41) 1142.4925 1005 DTA_int_01 1142.4925 yeah. 1142.6573 1006 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1142.8251 [I hate] languages and I hate foreign languages and. [] 1147.2316 1007 DTA_int_01 1142.9263 [Okay.] 1143.1985 1008 DTA_int_01 1143.1985 (pause 3.33) 1146.5238 1009 DTA_int_01 1146.5238 [] 1147.1736 1010 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1147.4971 Simply because I'm too stupid to learn them. [] 1150.0669 1011 DTA_int_01 1149.5695 [] 1149.8736 1012 DTA_int_01 1150.1340 Well I doubt that. 1150.9242 1013 DTA_int_01 1150.9242 (pause 0.78) 1151.7030 1014 DTA_int_01 1151.7030 Um, 1152.0173 1015 DTA_int_01 1152.0173 (pause 0.23) 1152.2431 1016 DTA_int_01 1152.2431 are there any, uh, 1153.0363 1017 DTA_int_01 1153.0363 (pause 0.34) 1153.3781 1018 DTA_int_01 1153.3781 Jewish people or, uh, 1154.7763 1019 DTA_int_01 1154.7763 (pause 0.23) 1155.0020 1020 DTA_int_01 1155.0020 white people that you 1155.9143 1021 DTA_int_01 1155.9143 (pause 0.14) 1156.0577 1022 DTA_int_01 1156.0577 are 1156.3944 1023 DTA_int_01 1156.3944 (pause 0.43) 1156.8266 1024 DTA_int_01 1156.8266 a- 1156.9547 1025 DTA_int_01 1156.9547 (pause 0.46) 1157.4132 1026 DTA_int_01 1157.4132 acquainted with or associated with in your group? 1159.4940 1027 DTA_int_01 1159.4940 (pause 0.53) 1160.0249 1028 DTA_int_01 1160.0249 Have you- [/inaudible/?] 1161.1322 1029 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1160.2942 [Yeah, it's mainly-] mainly white. We've, uh, lived more or less in that type of neighborhood- mixed neighborhood most of our lives. 1166.6176 1030 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1167.8746 Of course, the DACCW the majority are white. 1170.6985 1031 DTA_int_01 1170.9906 Oh. 1171.2896 1032 DTA_int_01 1171.2896 (pause 0.75) 1172.0371 1033 DTA_int_01 1172.0371 I suppose then you- mentioned in a Jewish neighborhood [when you were young.] 1174.9235 1034 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1174.4025 [Yes.] 1174.9554 1035 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1175.0829 I live- lived in a Jewish neighborhood until I was 1177.5306 1036 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1177.5306 (pause 1.38) 1178.9074 1037 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1178.9074 oh, I guess I was eighteen before 1180.9232 1038 DTA_int_01 1181.3857 Oh. 1181.6756 1039 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1181.9349 I moved out of a 1182.7495 1040 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1182.7495 (pause 0.47) 1183.2224 1041 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1183.2224 almost completely all Jewish neighborhood. 1185.2675 1042 DTA_int_01 1185.4292 Was that- was that here in Detroit? 1186.4482 1043 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1186.7411 Yes. 1187.2812 1044 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1187.2812 (pause 0.50) 1187.7823 1045 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1187.7823 Mm-hm. 1188.0264 1046 DTA_int_01 1189.0119 [Um-] 1189.2499 1047 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1189.1004 [And] I can mimic them and I can give you a whole [/unintelligible/.] (laughing) 1193.0951 1048 DTA_int_01 1192.4177 [] 1192.9561 1049 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1193.8958 Ways of handling themselves, you know. 1195.8998 1050 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1195.8998 (pause 0.40) 1196.3003 1051 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1196.3003 My- i- if you noticed, I talk with my hands. 1198.2713 1052 DTA_int_01 1199.1496 [/unintelligible/] 1200.2095 1053 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1199.4223 [] 1200.3712 1054 DTA_int_01 1200.7038 gesture or something? 1201.5733 1055 DTA_int_01 1201.5733 (pause 0.65) 1202.2262 1056 DTA_int_01 1202.2262 Um, is- 1202.7671 1057 DTA_int_01 1202.7671 (pause 0.33) 1203.0966 1058 DTA_int_01 1203.0966 now in- in your group is there someone who, uh, 1205.2964 1059 DTA_int_01 1205.2964 (pause 0.23) 1205.5291 1060 DTA_int_01 1205.5291 probably you look to more for leadership 1207.5031 1061 DTA_int_01 1207.5031 (pause 0.31) 1207.8113 1062 DTA_int_01 1207.8113 or, 1208.1306 1063 DTA_int_01 1208.1306 (pause 1.10) 1209.2339 1064 DTA_int_01 1209.2339 um, 1209.5314 1065 DTA_int_01 1209.5314 (pause 0.18) 1209.7160 1066 DTA_int_01 1209.7160 someone who'd probably comes up with some 1211.2209 1067 DTA_int_01 1211.2209 (pause 0.84) 1212.0569 1068 DTA_int_01 1212.0569 good ideas and so forth? 1213.0241 1069 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1213.2316 Well we did have one leader that we felt was [quite a] leader. She's just left the office, that was /RD-NAME-1/, um, /RD-NAME-2/. 1219.7350 1070 DTA_int_01 1215.8288 [Mm-hm.] 1216.1859 1071 DTA_int_01 1220.0981 Mm-hm. 1220.3840 1072 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1220.7244 Uh, 1221.3285 1073 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1221.3285 (pause 1.28) 1222.6099 1074 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1222.6099 quite a gal. 1223.2659 1075 DTA_int_01 1223.4742 Uh-huh. What- what were so- p- so much that made her a leader? 1225.8948 1076 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1226.7884 Well she was elected the president 1228.3658 1077 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1228.3658 (pause 0.32) 1228.6862 1078 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1228.6862 because of her 1229.7420 1079 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1229.7420 (pause 0.18) 1229.9227 1080 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1229.9227 extreme know-how. 1231.1969 1081 DTA_int_01 1231.4543 Mm-hm. 1231.7359 1082 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1231.9730 And, uh, 1232.8525 1083 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1232.8525 (pause 1.21) 1234.0668 1084 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1234.0668 of course we all feel now that we've lost a real good leader. 1237.5550 1085 DTA_int_01 1237.8937 Mm. 1238.1225 1086 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1238.6359 But, uh, 1239.3276 1087 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1239.3276 (pause 3.26) 1242.5878 1088 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1242.5878 there wouldn't be anything other than just 1244.3338 1089 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1244.3338 (pause 0.64) 1244.9715 1090 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1244.9715 the ideas that she put across, that you might say that we- 1248.2461 1091 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1248.2461 (pause 1.19) 1249.4329 1092 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1249.4329 that I would pick up from her. 1250.8479 1093 DTA_int_01 1251.0234 Mm-hm. 1251.3107 1094 DTA_int_01 1251.3107 (pause 0.61) 1251.9173 1095 DTA_int_01 1251.9173 Hm. 1252.1584 1096 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1253.3147 My pronunciation and diction and all come more or less from my- 1256.9349 1097 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1256.9349 (pause 1.43) 1258.3658 1098 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1258.3658 possibly from my mother. 1260.0478 1099 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1260.0478 (pause 1.34) 1261.3902 1100 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1261.3902 And possibly because I always wanted to make sure 1264.2175 1101 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1264.2175 (pause 0.77) 1264.9882 1102 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1264.9882 I did everything correctly. 1266.3407 1103 DTA_int_01 1266.6610 Mm-hm. 1266.8593 1104 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1267.5092 Missed the boat a lot of times, but most of the [things] I. (laughing) 1270.5226 1105 DTA_int_01 1269.9753 [Yeah.] 1270.2285 1106 DTA_int_01 1271.5657 And then, uh, 1272.0998 1107 DTA_int_01 1272.0998 (pause 0.21) 1272.3071 1108 DTA_int_01 1272.3071 what about like, in- in your, 1274.0036 1109 DTA_int_01 1274.0036 (pause 0.84) 1274.8433 1110 DTA_int_01 1274.8433 um, 1275.0539 1111 DTA_int_01 1275.0539 (pause 0.97) 1276.0241 1112 DTA_int_01 1276.0241 the- your main circle of friends is then with the ACCW? Is that? 1278.6929 1113 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1279.1828 Well that's- w- that's- I work with this group of women. 1282.0503 1114 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1282.0503 (pause 0.11) 1282.1644 1115 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1282.1644 [Course I] work in the post office with a- a hodge podge of almost- 1286.0157 1116 DTA_int_01 1282.2248 [Uh.] 1282.4420 1117 DTA_int_01 1286.3552 Oh. 1286.5870 1118 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1286.8098 and I've 1287.1667 1119 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1287.1667 (pause 0.15) 1287.3132 1120 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1287.3132 been there with them for twenty-five years. 1289.6908 1121 DTA_int_01 1289.7182 Oh, I [/??/.] 1290.4621 1122 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1290.3101 [Some] of [the people that I'm] working with right now, I've worked with for at least eighteen years. 1294.5894 1123 DTA_int_01 1290.6814 [/inaudible/] 1291.3435 1124 DTA_int_01 1294.7777 Hm. 1294.9821 1125 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1295.1957 And this is across the board. You- 1297.1614 1126 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1297.1614 (pause 1.20) 1298.3613 1127 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1298.3613 you'll catch almost anything there. 1300.1065 1128 DTA_int_01 1300.3567 Hm. 1300.5656 1129 DTA_int_01 1300.5656 (pause 0.57) 1301.1347 1130 DTA_int_01 1301.1347 Um, 1301.4680 1131 DTA_int_01 1301.4680 (pause 0.45) 1301.9165 1132 DTA_int_01 1301.9165 now, 1302.1606 1133 DTA_int_01 1302.1606 (pause 0.37) 1302.5329 1134 DTA_int_01 1302.5329 when you, uh, were in school, 1303.9882 1135 DTA_int_01 1303.9882 (pause 0.55) 1304.5352 1136 DTA_int_01 1304.5352 do you remember what did you want to be when you, uh, 1306.6160 1137 DTA_int_01 1306.6160 (pause 0.27) 1306.8906 1138 DTA_int_01 1306.8906 when you 1307.3338 1139 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1307.6786 [A lawyer.] 1308.3911 1140 DTA_int_01 1307.7274 [/grew up/?] 1308.0809 1141 DTA_int_01 1309.1736 A lawyer? 1309.5245 1142 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1309.6496 [Mm-hm.] 1310.0584 1143 DTA_int_01 1309.9791 [H-] 1310.1164 1144 DTA_int_01 1310.6847 uh, and then h- how long would it have taken to be 1313.0386 1145 DTA_int_01 1313.0386 (pause 0.49) 1313.5321 1146 DTA_int_01 1313.5321 a lawyer? 1313.9074 1147 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1313.9616 [Uh, at that time] six years. 1316.0645 1148 DTA_int_01 1314.1525 [/inaudible/] 1315.0167 1149 DTA_int_01 1316.2445 Mm-hm. 1316.5230 1150 DTA_int_01 1316.5230 (pause 0.71) 1317.2369 1151 DTA_int_01 1317.2369 Is that after high school, or? 1318.4864 1152 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1318.9028 That would have been including, uh, 1320.8563 1153 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1320.8563 (pause 0.62) 1321.4726 1154 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1321.4726 uh, high- 1322.0126 1155 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1322.0126 (pause 0.12) 1322.1316 1156 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1322.1316 uh, 1322.5870 1157 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1322.5870 (pause 1.73) 1324.3139 1158 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1324.3139 I believe that was the college, uh, 1325.9043 1159 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1325.9043 (pause 0.48) 1326.3803 1160 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1326.3803 four years of college and then two years of, uh, 1328.6877 1161 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1328.6877 (pause 0.46) 1329.1515 1162 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1329.1515 law. 1329.5603 1163 DTA_int_01 1329.6793 Hm. 1329.9142 1164 DTA_int_01 1329.9142 (pause 1.22) 1331.1385 1165 DTA_int_01 1331.1385 Mm-hm. 1331.4505 1166 DTA_int_01 1331.4505 (pause 0.62) 1332.0721 1167 DTA_int_01 1332.0721 And, uh, 1332.4901 1168 DTA_int_01 1332.4901 (pause 0.40) 1332.8868 1169 DTA_int_01 1332.8868 here's a interesting question. If you- if you could 1335.1210 1170 DTA_int_01 1335.1210 (pause 0.86) 1335.9844 1171 DTA_int_01 1335.9844 go back and do everything over again, 1337.4680 1172 DTA_int_01 1337.4680 (pause 0.12) 1337.5840 1173 DTA_int_01 1337.5840 what would you 1338.3546 1174 DTA_int_01 1338.3546 (pause 0.30) 1338.6549 1175 DTA_int_01 1338.6549 change, uh, 1339.0820 1176 DTA_int_01 1339.0820 (pause 0.19) 1339.2712 1177 DTA_int_01 1339.2712 any, uh, [decisions?] 1340.2415 1178 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1339.7502 [Mm-hm.] 1340.1900 1179 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1340.4101 Mm-hm. 1340.7823 1180 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1340.7823 (pause 0.74) 1341.5237 1181 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1341.5237 I'd be a nun. 1342.2346 1182 DTA_int_01 1342.6587 Uh-huh. 1342.9344 1183 DTA_int_01 1342.9344 (pause 1.46) 1344.3895 1184 DTA_int_01 1344.3895 Were- th- then you weren't- 1345.5122 1185 DTA_int_01 1345.5122 (pause 0.12) 1345.6282 1186 DTA_int_01 1345.6282 you weren't a Catholic [then.] 1346.4232 1187 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1346.3002 [No,] I wasn't a Catholic then. 1347.7530 1188 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1348.0241 [Mm-hm.] 1348.2712 1189 DTA_int_01 1348.1949 [Why-] why would you be a nun? 1349.1513 1190 DTA_int_01 1349.3460 Can you 1349.5443 1191 DTA_int_01 1349.5443 (pause 0.80) 1350.3406 1192 DTA_int_01 1350.3406 talk about [that?] 1350.8761 1193 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1350.7098 [I] sort of like the secluded life they live. 1353.4535 1194 DTA_int_01 1353.6122 [] 1353.9478 1195 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1353.7861 [] 1354.1095 1196 DTA_int_01 1357.3688 Any- 1357.6373 1197 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1357.7624 That's it. 1358.2201 1198 DTA_int_01 1358.3124 uh-huh. Okay. 1359.0172 1199 DTA_int_01 1359.0172 (pause 0.81) 1359.8288 1200 DTA_int_01 1359.8288 Um, 1360.1510 1201 DTA_int_01 1360.1510 (pause 0.95) 1361.0980 1202 DTA_int_01 1361.0980 if you had all- 1361.7457 1203 DTA_int_01 1361.7457 (pause 0.11) 1361.8586 1204 DTA_int_01 1361.8586 if you had 1362.4347 1205 DTA_int_01 1362.4347 (pause 0.34) 1362.7708 1206 DTA_int_01 1362.7708 all the money that you could ever want, 1364.3116 1207 DTA_int_01 1364.3116 (pause 0.21) 1364.5229 1208 DTA_int_01 1364.5229 what- what would you do with it? 1365.5940 1209 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1368.2338 Well, um, when I buy a sweepstake ticket and I dream of getting fifty-four thousand dollars, 1374.4169 1210 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1374.4169 (pause 1.21) 1375.6282 1211 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1375.6282 uh, 1376.2475 1212 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1376.2475 (pause 1.07) 1377.3162 1213 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1377.3162 I try to think of 1378.5469 1214 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1378.5469 (pause 0.44) 1378.9882 1215 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1378.9882 some of the people I- I know aren't- 1380.4627 1216 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1380.4627 (pause 1.38) 1381.8448 1217 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1381.8448 who've wanted things all their lives and never had it. 1384.2498 1218 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1384.2498 (pause 0.26) 1384.5092 1219 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1384.5092 Along with me. 1385.3741 1220 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1385.3741 (pause 1.08) 1386.4535 1221 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1386.4535 And, um, 1387.2010 1222 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1387.2010 (pause 0.20) 1387.4054 1223 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1387.4054 once or twice I have set up a trust fund, you know. 1390.0627 1224 DTA_int_01 1390.2224 Mm-hm. 1390.5000 1225 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1390.9363 Uh, 1391.4985 1226 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1391.4985 (pause 0.37) 1391.8677 1227 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1391.8677 so that they could get five thousand dollars a piece. 1394.7457 1228 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1394.7457 (pause 0.78) 1395.5237 1229 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1395.5237 And then 1396.1064 1230 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1396.1064 (pause 0.82) 1396.9272 1231 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1396.9272 if they were ever able to pay it back- put it back, and that would go to someone else. That five thousand dollars would 1402.2559 1232 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1402.2559 (pause 0.48) 1402.7350 1233 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1402.7350 just give them 1403.4344 1234 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1403.4344 (pause 0.24) 1403.6785 1235 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1403.6785 the 1404.0447 1236 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1404.0447 (pause 0.67) 1404.7098 1237 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1404.7098 needed start 1405.8600 1238 DTA_int_01 1405.8845 Hm. 1406.1285 1239 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1406.4955 that they needed. Now that's the way I look at it from that angle. 1409.0431 1240 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1409.0431 (pause 0.92) 1409.9653 1241 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1409.9653 Um, 1410.5725 1242 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1410.5725 (pause 0.49) 1411.0607 1243 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1411.0607 I imagine I'd like to travel. 1412.7823 1244 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1412.7823 (pause 1.69) 1414.4726 1245 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1414.4726 There's so much of 1415.3704 1246 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1415.3704 (pause 0.09) 1415.4619 1247 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1415.4619 [upper Michigan] 1416.5694 1248 DTA_int_01 1415.5351 [] 1416.2462 1249 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1417.6831 and, uh, just above us here in Canada that I'd love to see. 1420.9638 1250 DTA_int_01 1421.1133 Mm-hm. 1421.3909 1251 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1421.7548 I'd like to go to California. 1423.2285 1252 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1423.2285 (pause 0.60) 1423.8326 1253 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1423.8326 Not to stay, 1424.7518 1254 DTA_int_01 1425.1209 Mm-hm. 1425.3528 1255 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1425.4494 just to go out there. 1426.4207 1256 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1426.4207 (pause 1.34) 1427.7640 1257 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1427.7640 I've been as far as Nevada. 1429.2376 1258 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1429.2376 (pause 1.78) 1431.0172 1259 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1431.0172 But, um, 1431.9460 1260 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1431.9460 (pause 2.17) 1434.1148 1261 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1434.1148 there no r- real great ambitions that I have for that. 1437.0050 1262 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1437.0050 (pause 0.99) 1437.9996 1263 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1437.9996 I know I'll never get it so there's no necessity in dreaming the dream. (laughing) 1441.4817 1264 DTA_int_01 1441.4817 Yeah. 1441.7442 1265 DTA_int_01 1441.7442 (pause 0.17) 1441.9150 1266 DTA_int_01 1441.9150 /Well/ 1442.1629 1267 DTA_int_01 1442.1629 (pause 0.15) 1442.3154 1268 DTA_int_01 1442.3154 /sure it does/. 1442.9196 1269 DTA_int_01 1442.9196 (pause 2.54) 1445.4590 1270 DTA_int_01 1445.4590 Now, can you describe what you do in a day's work? 1447.7166 1271 DTA_int_01 1447.7166 (pause 0.50) 1448.2178 1272 DTA_int_01 1448.2178 /Just/ 1448.4485 1273 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1449.0416 Oh, I'm [not an] organized person. That isn't fair. 1452.0874 1274 DTA_int_01 1449.5654 [/?/.] 1449.7629 1275 DTA_int_01 1452.3040 [] 1452.8569 1276 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1453.7746 Um, 1454.2788 1277 DTA_int_01 1454.7334 Say what you did yesterday. 1455.7986 1278 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1456.1613 Yesterday? 1457.0184 1279 DTA_int_01 1457.0184 [Mm-hm.] 1457.3207 1280 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1457.2811 [Oh,] you don't want to know that. 1458.4443 1281 DTA_int_01 1458.7464 [] 1459.1092 1282 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1459.3444 I watered the lawn in the back. I 1462.1430 1283 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1462.1430 (pause 0.70) 1462.8478 1284 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1462.8478 watered my, 1463.7426 1285 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1463.7426 (pause 1.07) 1464.8135 1286 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1464.8135 um, 1465.4024 1287 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1465.4024 (pause 0.37) 1465.7685 1288 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1465.7685 roses. I have a rose garden out back. 1467.6793 1289 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1467.6793 (pause 2.19) 1469.8738 1290 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1469.8738 Uh, I ran the vacuum and hung- 1472.4482 1291 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1472.4482 (pause 0.51) 1472.9592 1292 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1472.9592 I 1473.1057 1293 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1473.1057 (pause 0.13) 1473.2399 1294 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1473.2399 took down curtains and changed a 1475.2544 1295 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1475.2544 (pause 0.11) 1475.3673 1296 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1475.3673 curtain rod. 1476.2247 1297 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1476.2247 (pause 1.13) 1477.3596 1298 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1477.3596 And, um, 1478.3246 1299 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1478.3246 (pause 0.33) 1478.6541 1300 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1478.6541 rehung them. 1479.4504 1301 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1479.4504 (pause 2.11) 1481.5565 1302 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1481.5565 Moved some furniture around. 1483.2289 1303 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1483.2289 (pause 0.12) 1483.3474 1304 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1483.3474 Got it out in the center of the floor, 1484.8158 1305 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1484.8158 (pause 0.10) 1484.9134 1306 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1484.9134 somebody else can move ['em.] (laughing) 1486.6495 1307 DTA_int_01 1486.2285 [] 1486.8905 1308 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1488.7616 I didn't prepare dinner yesterday, I think 1490.6419 1309 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1490.6419 (pause 0.12) 1490.7639 1310 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1490.7639 dinner yesterday was only hot dogs. 1492.5336 1311 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1492.5336 (pause 0.72) 1493.2506 1312 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1493.2506 Usually I do 1493.9928 1313 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1493.9928 (pause 0.31) 1494.3040 1314 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1494.3040 cook, uh, 1494.7067 1315 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1494.7067 (pause 0.49) 1495.1957 1316 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1495.1957 breakfast and dinner. I did start 1496.8250 1317 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1496.8250 (pause 0.17) 1496.9918 1318 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1496.9918 giving my husband toast and coffee and jam. 1499.0492 1319 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1499.0492 (pause 2.66) 1501.7105 1320 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1501.7105 And that was about it. 1502.6999 1321 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1502.6999 (pause 0.86) 1503.5603 1322 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1503.5603 Fooled around 1504.4634 1323 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1504.4634 (pause 0.44) 1504.9027 1324 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1504.9027 so much of the times, it's so many little foolish things that I couldn't even mention 'em. 1508.6480 1325 DTA_int_01 1508.9470 Yeah. 1509.1911 1326 DTA_int_01 1509.1911 (pause 0.72) 1509.9142 1327 DTA_int_01 1509.9142 Um, 1510.1768 1328 DTA_int_01 1510.1768 (pause 0.36) 1510.5335 1329 DTA_int_01 1510.5335 did- 1510.7410 1330 DTA_int_01 1510.7410 (pause 0.27) 1511.0095 1331 DTA_int_01 1511.0095 is there a special, uh, name you have for your neighborhood? 1513.1796 1332 DTA_int_01 1513.1796 (pause 0.22) 1513.3962 1333 DTA_int_01 1513.3962 Do you have a s- 1513.9607 1334 DTA_int_01 1513.9607 (pause 0.19) 1514.1499 1335 DTA_int_01 1514.1499 a, uh. 1514.5961 1336 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1515.2551 Yes, I call this down in the corner. 1517.4649 1337 DTA_int_01 1517.9409 Mm-hm. 1518.2355 1338 DTA_int_01 1518.2355 (pause 0.23) 1518.4687 1339 DTA_int_01 1518.4687 What- why do you call it that? 1519.4451 1340 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1520.0919 Well we're right in the corner 1521.8174 1341 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1521.8174 (pause 0.85) 1522.6678 1342 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1522.6678 of Highland Park 1523.8616 1343 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1523.8616 (pause 0.64) 1524.5053 1344 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1524.5053 and Detroit. 1525.2040 1345 DTA_int_01 1525.3993 Uh-huh. 1525.6924 1346 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1525.9267 Did you notice, Highland Park is right across the street [over there?] 1528.3566 1347 DTA_int_01 1527.8530 [/I just assumed/] 1528.5946 1348 DTA_int_01 1528.7043 private residence. 1529.3917 1349 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1529.5137 Uh, well that's- 1530.4046 1350 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1530.4046 (pause 0.31) 1530.7189 1351 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1530.7189 we call it- [I call] it down the corner. Now I- 1532.8158 1352 DTA_int_01 1531.2156 [This.] 1531.4878 1353 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1533.3375 I got this term from a- 1535.1010 1354 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1535.1010 (pause 0.17) 1535.2689 1355 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1535.2689 from some people that live in the south. 1536.9386 1356 DTA_int_01 1537.3169 Mm-hm. 1537.5488 1357 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1537.6617 And they had a little section there that they called down in the corner. 1541.2078 1358 DTA_int_01 1541.5229 Oh. 1541.7623 1359 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1542.1758 So I call this down in the [corner.] 1544.2505 1360 DTA_int_01 1543.8600 [Do a lot of-] 1544.2330 1361 DTA_int_01 1544.3917 quite a few other people call it the same thing? 1546.1593 1362 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1546.8844 No. I don't think, uh, 1549.1150 1363 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1549.1150 (pause 0.84) 1549.9546 1364 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1549.9546 I've heard anybody else call it 1551.5755 1365 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1551.5755 (pause 0.10) 1551.6792 1366 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1551.6792 by any name. 1552.5335 1367 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1552.5335 (pause 0.23) 1552.7593 1368 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1552.7593 That I paid any attention to. 1554.1331 1369 DTA_int_01 1554.2704 Hm. 1554.4840 1370 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1555.5976 My next door neighbors are original 1557.6772 1371 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1557.6772 (pause 0.60) 1558.2803 1372 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1558.2803 people here. They 1559.3787 1373 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1559.3787 (pause 0.54) 1559.9195 1374 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1559.9195 moved in here when the neighborhood started up. 1562.0156 1375 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1562.0156 (pause 1.29) 1563.3101 1376 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1563.3101 And, uh, she's determined to die over there. She won't move. 1566.4473 1377 DTA_int_01 1566.7860 /Yeah/. 1567.0423 1378 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1567.8112 So. 1568.3581 1379 DTA_int_01 1568.3764 What are the boundaries of, 1569.2476 1380 DTA_int_01 1569.2476 (pause 0.32) 1569.5694 1381 DTA_int_01 1569.5694 well, down in the corner? 1570.5579 1382 DTA_int_01 1570.5579 (pause 0.21) 1570.7685 1383 DTA_int_01 1570.7685 1570.9790 1384 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1571.7639 Well to me it starts right here with this corner and works up, because at this point here 1576.6098 1385 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1576.6098 (pause 0.49) 1577.1010 1386 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1577.1010 we're the closest to Highland Park, but then it cuts right across all the way up to where you're at Six Mile Road and Log Cabin, the next street over. 1583.7029 1387 DTA_int_01 1583.8493 Oh. 1584.1117 1388 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1584.5419 You're still in Highland Park. 1585.8295 1389 DTA_int_01 1586.1071 Oh. 1586.4527 1390 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1586.8280 So this is really 1587.7128 1391 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1587.7128 (pause 0.10) 1587.8104 1392 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1587.8104 to me the corner, although it 1589.0278 1393 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1589.0278 (pause 0.23) 1589.2566 1394 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1589.2566 does go widen out a little further. 1591.3413 1395 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1591.3413 (pause 0.13) 1591.4756 1396 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1591.4756 But I'm only thinking from this street, up. 1593.2399 1397 DTA_int_01 1593.9020 I see. 1594.3243 1398 DTA_int_01 1594.3243 (pause 0.99) 1595.3184 1399 DTA_int_01 1595.3184 Um, 1595.6876 1400 DTA_int_01 1595.6876 (pause 0.20) 1595.8829 1401 DTA_int_01 1595.8829 and 1596.1514 1402 DTA_int_01 1596.1514 (pause 0.12) 1596.2704 1403 DTA_int_01 1596.2704 how- y- you say the name of 1597.6342 1404 DTA_int_01 1597.6342 (pause 0.20) 1597.8356 1405 DTA_int_01 1597.8356 the city you live in? 1598.7486 1406 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1599.6548 Detroit. 1600.3035 1407 DTA_int_01 1601.5351 /Heard ?/ tell us, 1602.1890 1408 DTA_int_01 1602.1890 (pause 0.09) 1602.2826 1409 DTA_int_01 1602.2826 from Pennsylvania says Detroit. 1603.9058 1410 DTA_int_01 1603.9058 (pause 0.43) 1604.3360 1411 DTA_int_01 1604.3360 1604.5900 1412 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1604.7486 Oh, a lot of people call it, 1605.9233 1413 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1605.9233 (pause 0.26) 1606.1857 1414 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1606.1857 let's see. 1606.6495 1415 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1606.6495 (pause 0.31) 1606.9576 1416 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1606.9576 Detroit like they say /Dias Sonara/ 1609.4420 1417 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1609.4420 (pause 0.10) 1609.5457 1418 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1609.5457 [] 1611.1674 1419 DTA_int_01 1610.0003 [Yeah.] 1610.2544 1420 DTA_int_01 1610.2544 (pause 0.13) 1610.3856 1421 DTA_int_01 1610.3856 [] 1610.8249 1422 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1612.4298 [This always] amuses us. We 1614.1453 1423 DTA_int_01 1612.5823 [Um.] 1612.9350 1424 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1615.2742 get the habit of 1616.2102 1425 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1616.2102 (pause 1.16) 1617.3680 1426 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1617.3680 mimicking people and- 1618.5701 1427 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1618.5701 (pause 0.44) 1619.0095 1428 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1619.0095 there goes that /Dias Sonara/ bus. 1621.1765 1429 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1621.1765 (pause 0.21) 1621.3840 1430 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1621.3840 [] 1622.3739 1431 DTA_int_01 1621.4725 [] 1622.2871 1432 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1622.5229 We know it's D, S and R. 1624.1003 1433 DTA_int_01 1624.2925 [Uh-huh.] 1624.6945 1434 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1624.4237 [] 1624.7357 1435 DTA_int_01 1626.0202 Um, what are some of the- 1626.9080 1436 DTA_int_01 1626.9080 (pause 0.17) 1627.0749 1437 DTA_int_01 1627.0749 the main streets in Detroit? 1628.4527 1438 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1629.1453 Oh, Woodward Avenue is the main street. 1631.0980 1439 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1631.0980 (pause 0.13) 1631.2292 1440 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1631.2292 And of course you have0 um, 1632.7433 1441 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1632.7433 (pause 1.39) 1634.1376 1442 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1634.1376 you could consider Jefferson in as much as it runs all the way to Port Huron, but I'd say Gratiot. 1638.9660 1443 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1638.9660 (pause 0.22) 1639.1887 1444 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1639.1887 And, um, 1640.2261 1445 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1640.2261 (pause 2.11) 1642.3352 1446 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1642.3352 Michigan Avenue. 1643.4222 1447 DTA_int_01 1645.2925 The one down by Cobo Hall is? 1646.7486 1448 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1647.5358 That's Jefferson. 1648.4694 1449 DTA_int_01 1648.7562 Uh-huh. 1648.9942 1450 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1649.6144 At Washington Boulevard. 1650.9080 1451 DTA_int_01 1653.0568 An- any others 1654.0392 1452 DTA_int_01 1654.0392 (pause 0.88) 1654.9179 1453 DTA_int_01 1654.9179 that you know? 1655.2940 1454 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1657.9118 [Well if you wanna count] Grand Boulevard that runs all the away the city. Or Eight Mile Road and Outer Drive. 1664.0003 1455 DTA_int_01 1658.0613 [/There's one that up-/.] 1659.2643 1456 DTA_int_01 1664.2011 Oh, 1664.5537 1457 DTA_int_01 1664.5537 (pause 0.19) 1664.7395 1458 DTA_int_01 1664.7395 and Grand Boulevard runs all the way around? 1666.0636 1459 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1666.2772 Yeah, well in- in- 1667.5778 1460 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1667.5778 (pause 0.31) 1667.8920 1461 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1667.8920 on the inside, you see. It, uh, runs around from, um, 1671.2551 1462 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1671.2551 (pause 1.00) 1672.2589 1463 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1672.2589 about half way up. At one time that was the end of the city. 1675.6220 1464 DTA_int_01 1675.7959 Oh. 1676.1651 1465 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1676.2849 And, uh, it 1677.0141 1466 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1677.0141 (pause 0.23) 1677.2429 1467 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1677.2429 just sort of makes a- 1679.0339 1468 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1679.0339 (pause 1.65) 1680.6883 1469 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1680.6883 a circle around in- 1681.8386 1470 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1681.8386 (pause 0.61) 1682.4496 1471 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1682.4496 inside the three mile r- 1683.8440 1472 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1683.8440 (pause 0.15) 1683.9904 1473 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1683.9904 uh, limit. 1684.7837 1474 DTA_int_01 1685.2177 Hm. 1685.4466 1475 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1686.3436 But that's 1686.9433 1476 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1686.9433 (pause 0.30) 1687.2406 1477 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1687.2406 a good three miles from here. (laughing) 1688.7761 1478 DTA_int_01 1688.8585 Oh, I see. 1689.5266 1479 DTA_int_01 1689.5266 (pause 1.03) 1690.5548 1480 DTA_int_01 1690.5548 Hm. 1690.7715 1481 DTA_int_01 1690.7715 (pause 0.09) 1690.8630 1482 DTA_int_01 1690.8630 That's interesting [to know.] 1691.7625 1483 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1691.5869 [Mm-hm.] 1691.9347 1484 DTA_int_01 1692.1605 I'm not that familiar with Detroit, [so I'll keep these things in mind.] 1694.6650 1485 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1693.3779 [You're not?] 1693.8844 1486 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1693.8844 (pause 0.08) 1693.9637 1487 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1693.9637 [Mm-hm.] 1694.4313 1488 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1694.6998 1695.1514 1489 DTA_int_01 1695.5327 What about the big- 1696.2009 1490 DTA_int_01 1696.2009 (pause 0.34) 1696.5391 1491 DTA_int_01 1696.5391 the big, uh, 1697.2352 1492 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1697.7700 The main arteries? 1698.6853 1493 DTA_int_01 1698.6853 Mm-hm. 1698.9843 1494 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1699.2162 That's what I mean m- 1700.1132 1495 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1700.1132 (pause 0.15) 1700.2657 1496 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1700.2657 uh, Woodward Avenue would be your main north and south. 1702.7837 1497 DTA_int_01 1703.0217 Mm-hm. 1703.3032 1498 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1703.6601 And then, [uh,] 1704.5297 1499 DTA_int_01 1704.1697 [Well what about] there are some, 1705.0392 1500 DTA_int_01 1705.4236 uh, 1705.7318 1501 DTA_int_01 1705.7318 (pause 0.12) 1705.8477 1502 DTA_int_01 1705.8477 four- four and five lane. 1707.0385 1503 DTA_int_01 1707.0385 (pause 0.79) 1707.8287 1504 DTA_int_01 1707.8287 You know, 1708.0819 1505 DTA_int_01 1708.0819 (pause 0.50) 1708.5823 1506 DTA_int_01 1708.5823 [the-] 1708.8261 1507 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1708.7013 [Oh,] mean [the expressways?] 1710.1086 1508 DTA_int_01 1709.0987 [limited access-] 1709.7742 1509 DTA_int_01 1710.1086 Uh-huh. 1710.3466 1510 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1710.7982 Oh, we have, uh, John C Lodge. 1713.1239 1511 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1713.1239 (pause 0.76) 1713.8867 1512 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1713.8867 We have the Edsel Ford. 1715.2230 1513 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1715.2230 (pause 0.73) 1715.9561 1514 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1715.9561 Of course, the John C Lodge goes into, um, 1718.9515 1515 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1718.9515 (pause 1.05) 1719.9995 1516 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1719.9995 James Couzens. 1721.2017 1517 DTA_int_01 1721.4740 Mm-hm. 1721.7211 1518 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1722.7097 Uh, the Chrysler. Those are the only ones that we have right in the city of Detroit. 1726.2802 1519 DTA_int_01 1726.4877 Mm-hm. 1726.7349 1520 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1727.2688 They're all apart of that I-ninety-four. 1728.9740 1521 DTA_int_01 1729.2497 Oh. 1729.4573 1522 DTA_int_01 1729.4573 (pause 0.98) 1730.4343 1523 DTA_int_01 1730.4343 Um, 1730.7115 1524 DTA_int_01 1730.7115 (pause 0.25) 1730.9622 1525 DTA_int_01 1730.9622 see, uh- where were you born? 1731.9599 1526 DTA_int_01 1731.9599 (pause 0.09) 1732.0484 1527 DTA_int_01 1732.0484 Mm. 1732.2802 1528 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1732.6769 In South Carolina. 1733.8218 1529 DTA_int_01 1733.8798 Mm-hm. 1734.1265 1530 DTA_int_01 1734.1265 (pause 0.40) 1734.5297 1531 DTA_int_01 1734.5297 And, 1734.7982 1532 DTA_int_01 1734.7982 (pause 0.39) 1735.1918 1533 DTA_int_01 1735.1918 uh, where else have you lived in Detroit, here? 1737.0523 1534 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1739.0766 Oh, I've lived- lived on 1740.3985 1535 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1740.3985 (pause 0.35) 1740.7494 1536 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1740.7494 1741.2894 1537 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1741.2894 (pause 0.44) 1741.7318 1538 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1741.7318 North Side. 1742.7639 1539 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1742.7639 (pause 0.82) 1743.5815 1540 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1743.5815 This is the north 1744.3980 1541 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1744.3980 (pause 0.34) 1744.7409 1542 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1744.7409 west side, I've l- lived in, um, 1746.6304 1543 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1746.6304 (pause 0.50) 1747.1277 1544 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1747.1277 Ferndale which is much further out. 1749.0187 1545 DTA_int_01 1749.4229 Mm-hm. 1749.6841 1546 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1749.9355 I've lived, um, 1751.0735 1547 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1751.0735 (pause 0.42) 1751.4893 1548 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1751.4893 almost directly across 1753.3565 1549 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1753.3565 (pause 0.68) 1754.0369 1550 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1754.0369 on the East Side. 1755.2051 1551 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1755.2051 (pause 0.12) 1755.3283 1552 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1755.3283 Um, 1756.1979 1553 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1756.1979 (pause 2.37) 1758.5663 1554 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1758.5663 then I've lived 1759.2467 1555 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1759.2467 (pause 0.58) 1759.8233 1556 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1759.8233 further south on the East Side, almost downtown. 1762.9454 1557 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1762.9454 (pause 0.80) 1763.7455 1558 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1763.7455 I've lived on the West Side further south. 1765.7196 1559 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1765.7196 (pause 0.80) 1766.5198 1560 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1766.5198 But it wouldn't be almost downtown, it would still be within that three mile circle. Um, 1770.9355 1561 DTA_int_01 1772.4069 Hm. 1772.5825 1562 DTA_int_01 1772.5825 (pause 0.59) 1773.1727 1563 DTA_int_01 1773.1727 So you've 1773.4557 1564 DTA_int_01 1773.4557 (pause 0.68) 1774.1307 1565 DTA_int_01 1774.1307 moved around? 1774.6494 1566 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1775.0979 [Mm-hm.] 1775.3359 1567 DTA_int_01 1775.2291 [Um,] 1775.4570 1568 DTA_int_01 1775.6204 where else have you lived about? Let's say outside of Detroit. 1777.9332 1569 DTA_int_01 1777.9332 (pause 0.57) 1778.5076 1570 DTA_int_01 1778.5076 [/inaudible/.] 1778.9652 1571 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1778.7364 [Brighton,] Michigan. 1779.7158 1572 DTA_int_01 1779.9141 Mm-hm. 1780.1768 1573 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1781.3519 For, um, 1782.4622 1574 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1782.4622 (pause 1.83) 1784.2940 1575 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1784.2940 I guess about three years we lived in Brighton, Michigan. 1786.6525 1576 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1786.6525 (pause 0.75) 1787.4008 1577 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1787.4008 Course we were in, now Detroit, so much until you couldn't say that we lived in Brighton, Michigan. 1791.4521 1578 DTA_int_01 1791.6975 1792.0483 1579 DTA_int_01 1792.0483 (pause 0.87) 1792.9179 1580 DTA_int_01 1792.9179 Is that right on the edge of East Detroit? 1794.3773 1581 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1794.3863 No, it's twenty-seven miles out. 1796.0643 1582 DTA_int_01 1796.2352 Oh. 1796.4282 1583 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1797.5429 We were on a lake out there. We had a cottage out there. We 1800.5934 1584 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1800.5934 (pause 0.59) 1801.1795 1585 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1801.1795 moved out there with the idea of staying out there. 1803.8295 1586 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1803.8295 (pause 0.43) 1804.2558 1587 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1804.2558 And, uh, 1805.1406 1588 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1805.1406 (pause 1.72) 1806.8622 1589 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1806.8622 the war came along. (laughing) 1808.0827 1590 DTA_int_01 1808.3702 Hm. 1808.6723 1591 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1808.8920 So we had to come back. 1809.7554 1592 DTA_int_01 1810.7409 [/As you were/.] 1811.3635 1593 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1810.9179 [We could get-] we could get tires for one car and gas for another car. 1814.8645 1594 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1815.1300 But we couldn't get tires and gas for two cars, so 1817.5777 1595 DTA_int_01 1817.7974 Mm. 1818.0384 1596 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1819.2406 we had to come back in. 1820.2108 1597 DTA_int_01 1820.7791 What- where have you gone on trips? 1822.2863 1598 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1822.7867 [Oh.] 1823.3733 1599 DTA_int_01 1823.3458 [To] see family, or. 1824.2151 1600 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1825.2894 I've been as far south as South Carolina. 1828.0551 1601 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1828.0551 (pause 1.26) 1829.3153 1602 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1829.3153 I've been as far sout- 1830.6364 1603 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1830.6364 (pause 0.16) 1830.8012 1604 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1830.8012 n- west 1831.5090 1605 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1831.5090 (pause 0.77) 1832.2810 1606 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1832.2810 as Wyoming, I guess. 1833.9568 1607 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1833.9568 (pause 0.27) 1834.2222 1608 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1834.2222 Denver, Colorado. 1835.4274 1609 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1835.4274 (pause 0.98) 1836.4076 1610 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1836.4076 Uh, down to, um, 1837.8996 1611 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1837.8996 (pause 0.62) 1838.5167 1612 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1838.5167 Las Vegas, Nevada. 1839.7859 1613 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1839.7859 (pause 1.54) 1841.3245 1614 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1841.3245 U- um, 1842.1110 1615 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1842.1110 (pause 1.39) 1843.5060 1616 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1843.5060 I've been to New York. 1844.5596 1617 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1844.5596 (pause 3.64) 1848.2001 1618 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1848.2001 I guess that's it. 1849.0880 1619 DTA_int_01 1849.2924 Mm-hm. 1849.5426 1620 DTA_int_01 1849.5426 (pause 1.39) 1850.9316 1621 DTA_int_01 1850.9316 How does you family celebrate the- the holidays? Let's say for example, [Christmas.] 1854.3530 1622 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1854.2886 [Stay] at home. Oh, the Christmas holidays we- 1857.0053 1623 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1857.2581 conventional manner. 1858.3931 1624 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1858.3931 (pause 0.25) 1858.6402 1625 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1858.6402 Christmas tree, Santa Claus, and all the trimmings. 1861.5792 1626 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1861.5792 (pause 1.14) 1862.7211 1627 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1862.7211 Um, 1863.3422 1628 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1863.3422 (pause 0.34) 1863.6852 1629 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1863.6852 the rest of the holidays we usually stay at home because the 1866.4045 1630 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1866.4045 (pause 0.68) 1867.0819 1631 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1867.0819 traffic is a little more than we like to take. We very seldom go out on a holiday. 1871.0857 1632 DTA_int_01 1871.2626 Mm-hm. 1871.5197 1633 DTA_int_01 1871.5197 (pause 0.99) 1872.5083 1634 DTA_int_01 1872.5083 Are there any special, uh, 1873.5914 1635 DTA_int_01 1873.5914 (pause 0.46) 1874.0529 1636 DTA_int_01 1874.0529 foods that you eat? 1874.9011 1637 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1875.6425 On a [holiday?] 1876.3860 1638 DTA_int_01 1876.1539 [Uh, yeah,] or /??/. 1877.2589 1639 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1877.3054 Oh, at Easter 1878.3557 1640 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1878.3557 (pause 0.37) 1878.7219 1641 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1878.7219 it's always ham. 1879.8263 1642 DTA_int_01 1880.0560 Mm-hm. 1880.3062 1643 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1881.5113 At Christmas it's usually ham again. 1883.9835 1644 DTA_int_01 1884.1299 Mm-hm. 1884.4076 1645 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1885.1734 But, uh, at Thanksgiving we give in to the turkey. Although- 1888.4503 1646 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1888.4503 (pause 0.49) 1888.9392 1647 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1888.9392 well the youngsters like fowl, but I don't. 1891.0422 1648 DTA_int_01 1891.4358 Mm-hm. 1891.7134 1649 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1891.9484 I can't stand chickens. 1893.1971 1650 DTA_int_01 1894.2619 Hm. 1894.5188 1651 DTA_int_01 1894.5188 (pause 1.21) 1895.7333 1652 DTA_int_01 1895.7333 Um, 1896.0537 1653 DTA_int_01 1896.0537 (pause 0.68) 1896.7314 1654 DTA_int_01 1896.7314 uh- what- when do the children 1897.8471 1655 DTA_int_01 1897.8471 (pause 0.31) 1898.1583 1656 DTA_int_01 1898.1583 open their gifts and so forth? 1899.8073 1657 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1899.9537 Uh, 1900.5029 1658 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1900.5029 (pause 0.12) 1900.6219 1659 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1900.6219 that's always Christmas morning. 1901.9798 1660 DTA_int_01 1902.1574 Christmas morning. 1902.6003 1661 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1902.7768 Mm-hm. 1903.1551 1662 DTA_int_01 1904.5563 Um, 1904.8279 1663 DTA_int_01 1904.8279 (pause 0.36) 1905.1879 1664 DTA_int_01 1905.1879 now I- 1905.7554 1665 DTA_int_01 1905.7554 (pause 0.22) 1905.9751 1666 DTA_int_01 1905.9751 you became 1906.5731 1667 DTA_int_01 1906.5731 (pause 0.20) 1906.7684 1668 DTA_int_01 1906.7684 a Catholic later. 1907.5838 1669 DTA_int_01 1907.5838 (pause 0.24) 1907.8248 1670 DTA_int_01 1907.8248 Do you remember your first communion? 1909.2093 1671 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1910.2779 [Yes.] 1910.7821 1672 DTA_int_01 1910.2779 [Can you tell me about] that? 1911.0616 1673 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1911.1696 Mm, well it wasn't a u- wasn't a very eventful thing. I- 1914.6883 1674 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1914.6883 (pause 0.74) 1915.4236 1675 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1915.4236 it was on the eighth of December. 1917.3679 1676 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1917.3679 (pause 1.04) 1918.4114 1677 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1918.4114 And I went to the cathedral 1920.1360 1678 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1920.1360 (pause 1.27) 1921.4022 1679 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1921.4022 and 1921.7653 1680 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1921.7653 (pause 0.21) 1921.9789 1681 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1921.9789 in with a bunch of people, I received my first communion. 1924.4694 1682 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1924.4694 (pause 0.28) 1924.7470 1683 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1924.7470 My husband was with me. 1925.7669 1684 DTA_int_01 1926.0445 Mm-hm. 1926.3038 1685 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1926.8012 But that was all. 1927.3382 1686 DTA_int_01 1927.8843 Mm. 1928.0216 1687 DTA_int_01 1928.0216 (pause 1.00) 1929.0170 1688 DTA_int_01 1929.0170 Um, 1929.3282 1689 DTA_int_01 1929.3282 (pause 1.18) 1930.5121 1690 DTA_int_01 1930.5121 what- 1930.7965 1691 DTA_int_01 1930.7965 (pause 0.48) 1931.2718 1692 DTA_int_01 1931.2718 oh, let's see that's more for children. 1932.7981 1693 DTA_int_01 1932.7981 (pause 0.90) 1933.6996 1694 DTA_int_01 1933.6996 You remember at the end of October there's this 1935.8678 1695 DTA_int_01 1935.8678 (pause 0.90) 1936.7684 1696 DTA_int_01 1936.7684 day that the 1937.2545 1697 DTA_int_01 1937.2545 (pause 0.28) 1937.5319 1698 DTA_int_01 1937.5319 kids like [s-] 1938.3382 1699 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1938.1238 [Halloween?] 1938.8828 1700 DTA_int_01 1939.0391 uh-huh. 1939.3259 1701 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1939.8843 [Mm-hm.] 1940.2809 1702 DTA_int_01 1940.0613 [Um,] and- 1940.6692 1703 DTA_int_01 1941.2428 uh, we used to make, um, 1942.2892 1704 DTA_int_01 1942.2892 (pause 0.70) 1942.9880 1705 DTA_int_01 1942.9880 jack-o-lanterns out of 1943.9438 1706 DTA_int_01 1943.9438 (pause 0.11) 1944.0567 1707 DTA_int_01 1944.0567 what? 1944.3618 1708 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1945.2619 Pumpkins. 1945.9331 1709 DTA_int_01 1946.1314 Uh-huh. 1946.4587 1710 DTA_int_01 1946.4587 (pause 0.41) 1946.8675 1711 DTA_int_01 1946.8675 And, uh, 1947.3740 1712 DTA_int_01 1947.3740 (pause 0.25) 1947.6211 1713 DTA_int_01 1947.6211 the- 1947.8866 1714 DTA_int_01 1947.8866 (pause 0.61) 1948.4999 1715 DTA_int_01 1948.4999 the woman who used to ride around on the broomstick would be a? 1950.7340 1716 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1950.9598 A witch. 1951.5113 1717 DTA_int_01 1951.6371 Uh-huh. 1951.9114 1718 DTA_int_01 1951.9114 (pause 0.69) 1952.6051 1719 DTA_int_01 1952.6051 Um, 1952.8980 1720 DTA_int_01 1952.8980 (pause 0.36) 1953.2581 1721 DTA_int_01 1953.2581 now, 1953.5662 1722 DTA_int_01 1953.5662 (pause 0.12) 1953.6852 1723 DTA_int_01 1953.6852 when you went from- 1954.3168 1724 DTA_int_01 1954.3168 (pause 0.23) 1954.5517 1725 DTA_int_01 1954.5517 I don't know if- did you used to go, um, 1956.0964 1726 DTA_int_01 1956.0964 (pause 0.28) 1956.3740 1727 DTA_int_01 1956.3740 from door to [door?] 1957.0532 1728 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1956.8957 [Trick] or treat? No, in my day you didn't go trick or treat. 1959.8713 1729 DTA_int_01 1960.1703 Uh-huh. 1960.4297 1730 DTA_int_01 1960.4297 (pause 0.61) 1961.0429 1731 DTA_int_01 1961.0429 [But did-] 1961.2970 1732 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1961.0926 [It was] all trick. [] 1962.7889 1733 DTA_int_01 1962.2062 [] 1962.8164 1734 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1963.1520 [And so] I stood on the porch and watched the tricks. 1965.7005 1735 DTA_int_01 1963.1673 [.] 1963.4662 1736 DTA_int_01 1965.9720 Uh-huh. 1966.2588 1737 DTA_int_01 1966.2588 (pause 0.54) 1966.7989 1738 DTA_int_01 1966.7989 What- what are some of the things that you would do? 1968.5205 1739 DTA_int_01 1968.5205 (pause 0.37) 1968.8866 1740 DTA_int_01 1968.8866 Was this? 1969.2595 1741 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1969.7409 That's all I would do was stand and watch. 1971.9831 1742 DTA_int_01 1972.1519 Uh-huh. 1972.4494 1743 DTA_int_01 1972.4494 (pause 0.62) 1973.0673 1744 DTA_int_01 1973.0673 Um, 1973.3824 1745 DTA_int_01 1973.3824 (pause 0.82) 1974.2031 1746 DTA_int_01 1974.2031 now 1974.5266 1747 DTA_int_01 1974.5266 (pause 0.43) 1974.9568 1748 DTA_int_01 1974.9568 did y- you never rang doorbells or [anything?] 1976.8889 1749 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1976.2909 [No, uh-uh.] I didn't. Uh, the youngsters here do. 1979.2565 1750 DTA_int_01 1979.4495 Uh-huh. 1979.7089 1751 DTA_int_01 1979.7089 (pause 0.38) 1980.0902 1752 DTA_int_01 1980.0902 [What do they] say here when they- 1981.0971 1753 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1980.1086 [But.] 1980.3234 1754 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1981.1886 They say trick or treat. 1982.2321 1755 DTA_int_01 1982.5105 Uh-huh. 1982.7638 1756 DTA_int_01 1982.7638 (pause 1.02) 1983.7859 1757 DTA_int_01 1983.7859 And, um, 1984.2822 1758 DTA_int_01 1984.2822 (pause 1.24) 1985.5197 1759 DTA_int_01 1985.5197 did- 1985.7577 1760 DTA_int_01 1985.7577 (pause 0.23) 1985.9865 1761 DTA_int_01 1985.9865 you didn't have a- a special night before 1987.8995 1762 DTA_int_01 1987.8995 (pause 0.33) 1988.2290 1763 DTA_int_01 1988.2290 Halloween 1988.7181 1764 DTA_int_01 1988.7181 (pause 0.44) 1989.1543 1765 DTA_int_01 1989.1543 [did you?] 1989.4315 1766 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1989.2794 [No.] 1989.8347 1767 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1989.9537 Uh-uh, I know that they do have but, uh, 1992.5815 1768 DTA_int_01 1992.7523 Nothing like Devil's [Night, or?] 1993.7866 1769 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1993.6371 [I was] an only child and a rather 1995.4137 1770 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1995.5510 closely guarded one. 1996.7584 1771 DTA_int_01 1997.0155 Uh-huh. 1997.2622 1772 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1997.6722 And my mother didn't 1998.9232 1773 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1998.9232 (pause 0.25) 1999.1703 1774 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 1999.1703 let me feel that these were things that were necessary 2001.7828 1775 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2001.7828 (pause 0.54) 2002.3259 1776 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2002.3259 to your happiness. And so consequently, I just watched the rest. 2005.3473 1777 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2005.3473 (pause 0.75) 2006.0978 1778 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2006.0978 And that was all I wanted to do. I never wanted to get in the /middle/. 2008.7823 1779 DTA_int_01 2009.1650 Hm. 2009.4404 1780 DTA_int_01 2009.4404 (pause 1.67) 2011.1123 1781 DTA_int_01 2011.1123 Um, 2011.4388 1782 DTA_int_01 2011.4388 (pause 0.60) 2012.0368 1783 DTA_int_01 2012.0368 now when- 2012.5868 1784 DTA_int_01 2012.5868 (pause 0.48) 2013.0689 1785 DTA_int_01 2013.0689 when- 2013.3099 1786 DTA_int_01 2013.3099 (pause 0.41) 2013.7188 1787 DTA_int_01 2013.7188 here's the- the next section is- has to do with fighting, illness, and accidents, and so forth. 2017.9087 1788 DTA_int_01 2017.9087 (pause 0.41) 2018.3175 1789 DTA_int_01 2018.3175 Um, when fights 2019.5326 1790 DTA_int_01 2019.5326 (pause 0.16) 2019.6913 1791 DTA_int_01 2019.6913 will start around here, what do they usually start about? 2021.6294 1792 DTA_int_01 2021.6294 (pause 0.09) 2021.7154 1793 DTA_int_01 2021.7154 What- what do kids fight about? 2022.8591 1794 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2023.3534 In this house? 2024.2321 1795 DTA_int_01 2024.4526 Well, in this house or in the neighborhood. 2026.4419 1796 DTA_int_01 2026.4419 (pause 0.54) 2026.9788 1797 DTA_int_01 2026.9788 2027.2504 1798 DTA_int_01 2027.2504 (pause 0.48) 2027.7333 1799 DTA_int_01 2027.7333 Probably in the neighborhood. 2028.5998 1800 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2028.7676 Oh, murder. 2029.8705 1801 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2029.8705 (pause 0.96) 2030.8339 1802 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2030.8339 Anything. 2031.4930 1803 DTA_int_01 2031.9537 Uh-huh. 2032.2657 1804 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2033.0185 Um, 2033.6295 1805 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2033.6295 (pause 3.74) 2037.3648 1806 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2037.3648 what can be a /??/? 2038.5564 1807 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2038.5564 (pause 2.63) 2041.1856 1808 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2041.1856 There's always a m- 2042.0374 1809 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2042.0374 (pause 0.23) 2042.2626 1810 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2042.2626 um, background behind the thing that starts a fight. 2045.4678 1811 DTA_int_01 2045.7424 Mm-hm. 2046.0261 1812 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2046.5021 And that usually is a matter of jealousy, so far as I have been able to see it. 2050.6097 1813 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2050.6097 (pause 1.11) 2051.7241 1814 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2051.7241 Uh, /RD-NAME-1/ and /RD-NAME-2/ can fight over who's supposed to wash dishes. 2055.5570 1815 DTA_int_01 2055.7889 Mm-hm. 2056.0330 1816 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2056.9605 Uh, 2057.6051 1817 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2057.6051 (pause 0.61) 2058.2123 1818 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2058.2123 with the neighbors when they get into it, it's usually who said what. 2061.1969 1819 DTA_int_01 2061.8103 Uh-huh. 2062.1428 1820 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2065.6158 It's usually nothing. 2066.7943 1821 DTA_int_01 2067.0017 Uh-huh. 2067.2977 1822 DTA_int_01 2067.2977 (pause 1.03) 2068.3320 1823 DTA_int_01 2068.3320 Um, 2068.6280 1824 DTA_int_01 2068.6280 (pause 0.27) 2068.8965 1825 DTA_int_01 2068.8965 alright- 2069.1417 1826 DTA_int_01 2069.1417 (pause 0.11) 2069.2473 1827 DTA_int_01 2069.2473 now when they- 2069.8614 1828 DTA_int_01 2069.8614 (pause 0.18) 2070.0414 1829 DTA_int_01 2070.0414 when they fight at, do they have any- 2071.4083 1830 DTA_int_01 2071.4083 (pause 0.67) 2072.0802 1831 DTA_int_01 2072.0802 let's say they really get mad at each other, they- do they have any rules for well- what they would call a fair fight? 2076.6821 1832 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2076.8835 Oh, no. No, no. All's fair in love and war. 2079.4167 1833 DTA_int_01 2079.6211 [] 2080.3106 1834 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2080.2161 [And] when they're fighting, that's war. 2081.5441 1835 DTA_int_01 2081.7271 Uh-huh. 2082.0217 1836 DTA_int_01 2082.0217 (pause 1.24) 2083.2649 1837 DTA_int_01 2083.2649 But d- they have some restrictions. I mean, they don't- 2085.1726 1838 DTA_int_01 2085.1726 (pause 1.13) 2086.3038 1839 DTA_int_01 2086.3038 they don't use certain 2087.2529 1840 DTA_int_01 2087.2529 (pause 0.97) 2088.2245 1841 DTA_int_01 2088.2245 uh, I mean, would- 2089.1886 1842 DTA_int_01 2089.1886 (pause 0.55) 2089.7347 1843 DTA_int_01 2089.7347 they- they wouldn't use knives or anything like [this, /??/?] 2091.7977 1844 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2091.5723 [No,] no knives. No 2092.9758 1845 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2093.2504 nothing [like that. Just] their fist. 2094.9079 1846 DTA_int_01 2093.8278 [] 2094.2516 1847 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2095.6707 They better not. 2096.4983 1848 DTA_int_01 2097.0841 Uh-huh. 2097.3953 1849 DTA_int_01 2097.3953 (pause 0.86) 2098.2527 1850 DTA_int_01 2098.2527 Um, 2098.5791 1851 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2099.0856 This wasn't kosher when I was a child. [] 2101.8242 1852 DTA_int_01 2101.5334 [] 2101.8242 1853 DTA_int_01 2102.3946 Yeah? 2102.6688 1854 DTA_int_01 2102.6688 (pause 1.77) 2104.4357 1855 DTA_int_01 2104.4357 Um, 2104.7988 1856 DTA_int_01 2104.7988 (pause 1.05) 2105.8522 1857 DTA_int_01 2105.8522 did- did you ever see anyone get beat up real bad? 2108.2192 1858 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2109.0475 No. 2109.5177 1859 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2109.5177 (pause 0.47) 2109.9903 1860 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2109.9903 I never saw. 2110.8324 1861 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2110.8324 (pause 0.50) 2111.3358 1862 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2111.3358 I've seen the police arrest a man once, and 2113.9788 1863 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2113.9788 (pause 0.90) 2114.8827 1864 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2114.8827 um, 2115.4411 1865 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2115.4411 (pause 0.12) 2115.5570 1866 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2115.5570 I don't know why 2116.8293 1867 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2116.8293 (pause 0.24) 2117.0673 1868 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2117.0673 they were after the man 2118.2580 1869 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2118.2580 (pause 0.66) 2118.9201 1870 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2118.9201 but they shot him. 2120.0032 1871 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2120.0032 (pause 0.13) 2120.1283 1872 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2120.1283 And I saw this 2121.3709 1873 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2121.3709 (pause 0.10) 2121.4716 1874 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2121.4716 because- and I almost s- was hit by the shot. 2124.3465 1875 DTA_int_01 2124.5692 Hm. 2124.7883 1876 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2125.7134 For which my father was quite angry. 2127.8316 1877 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2127.8316 (pause 0.27) 2128.1029 1878 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2128.1029 Cause he'd a log- 2128.9777 1879 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2128.9777 (pause 0.20) 2129.1802 1880 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2129.1802 I was out with my- 2130.1909 1881 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2130.1909 (pause 0.99) 2131.1794 1882 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2131.1794 a younger cousin of mine and we were just walking. And all of a sudden here it was a policeman on this side of us and the man on that side, and the policeman had shot him. 2138.6020 1883 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2138.6020 (pause 0.81) 2139.4075 1884 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2139.4075 I don't know how we walked into it. 2140.6768 1885 DTA_int_01 2140.9025 Hm. 2141.0883 1886 DTA_int_01 2141.0883 (pause 1.52) 2142.6119 1887 DTA_int_01 2142.6119 Yeah. 2142.8835 1888 DTA_int_01 2142.8835 (pause 1.11) 2143.9941 1889 DTA_int_01 2143.9941 Uh, did you ever get 2144.7851 1890 DTA_int_01 2144.7851 (pause 0.14) 2144.9224 1891 DTA_int_01 2144.9224 into a fight with someone bigger than you when you were, say, in school? 2147.8898 1892 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2148.6211 Oh, yes. 2149.4628 1893 DTA_int_01 2150.1627 And what happened? 2150.9608 1894 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2151.2672 Um, 2151.9628 1895 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2151.9628 (pause 0.44) 2152.4022 1896 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2152.4022 the youngsters would, uh, corner you, 2154.6089 1897 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2154.6089 (pause 0.98) 2155.5852 1898 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2155.5852 and the habit at that particular time was to put a chip on your shoulder. 2159.0246 1899 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2159.0246 (pause 1.24) 2160.2671 1900 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2160.2671 And you were supposed to knock it- 2161.6188 1901 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2161.6188 (pause 0.79) 2162.4067 1902 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2162.4067 I mean, they put one on your shoulder or- 2164.2832 1903 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2164.2832 (pause 0.39) 2164.6767 1904 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2164.6767 I don't know it. I really don't know the rules of that game. 2167.0269 1905 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2167.0269 (pause 0.52) 2167.5516 1906 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2167.5516 Because whenever the chip time came, they always had to chase me down. I was a coward. 2171.3510 1907 DTA_int_01 2171.5349 Mm-hm. 2171.8063 1908 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2171.9102 If I could go through the basement of the school and come up and get out and get away from it, I would. 2175.6607 1909 DTA_int_01 2175.9506 Mm-hm. 2176.2313 1910 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2176.2557 But once or twice I got caught. 2177.6813 1911 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2177.6813 (pause 1.07) 2178.7492 1912 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2178.7492 And, uh, 2179.6096 1913 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2179.6096 (pause 0.50) 2180.1069 1914 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2180.1069 they were supposed to put a chip on my shoulder, and the other person was supposed to knock it off, 2184.7401 1915 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2184.7401 (pause 0.81) 2185.5486 1916 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2185.5486 and we were supposed to start the fight. 2187.1268 1917 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2187.1268 (pause 1.18) 2188.3076 1918 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2188.3076 But because I was frightened- 2189.6691 1919 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2189.6691 (pause 0.41) 2190.0780 1920 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2190.0780 no, I wasn't frightened. I was scared. 2192.2625 1921 DTA_int_01 2192.5715 2192.8922 1922 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2193.7065 And I wouldn't allow them to a sh- 2195.1802 1923 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2195.1802 (pause 0.20) 2195.3785 1924 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2195.3785 chip on my shoulder. You had to put the chip on your shoulder. 2198.1069 1925 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2198.1069 (pause 0.52) 2198.6295 1926 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2198.6295 And then instead of knocking that chip off, I'd hit the person. 2201.4922 1927 DTA_int_01 2201.9315 Uh-huh. 2202.2214 1928 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2202.3953 And then I would do what my daddy always said 2204.5672 1929 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2204.5672 (pause 0.54) 2205.1054 1930 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2205.1054 to do. 2205.4685 1931 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2205.4685 (pause 0.59) 2206.0543 1932 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2206.0543 He said, he that fights and runs away shall live to fight another [day.] (laughing) 2209.6676 1933 DTA_int_01 2209.5120 [] 2209.7561 1934 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2209.8873 And I would say, feet 2210.8339 1935 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2210.8339 (pause 0.19) 2211.0200 1936 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2211.0200 take care /of all might/. 2212.2618 1937 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2212.2618 (pause 0.32) 2212.5791 1938 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2212.5791 [] 2213.2206 1939 DTA_int_01 2212.5791 [] 2213.3121 1940 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2213.6966 And they would. [And I'd fly.] 2215.8628 1941 DTA_int_01 2214.5448 [] 2215.0604 1942 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2216.6633 Get out of there. I lived in a neighborhood once that was rather rough. 2219.6874 1943 DTA_int_01 2219.9010 Mm-hm. 2220.1725 1944 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2220.3465 And the youngsters thought that, um, 2222.2542 1945 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2222.2542 (pause 1.68) 2223.9292 1946 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2223.9292 you had to show who was 2225.1679 1947 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2225.1679 (pause 1.02) 2226.1908 1948 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2226.1908 the master of the situation. 2227.8506 1949 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2227.8506 (pause 0.82) 2228.6691 1950 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2228.6691 And this called for a fight. 2229.8987 1951 DTA_int_01 2230.1916 Hm. 2230.4326 1952 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2230.5608 Whether you were a boy or girl, you had to 2232.4288 1953 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2232.4288 (pause 0.98) 2233.4113 1954 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2233.4113 prove it. 2233.7682 1955 DTA_int_01 2234.0825 Hm. 2234.2473 1956 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2234.4799 Because some of the languages they use and things that they did were things that I wasn't used to in the neighborhoods that I always lived in. 2240.1405 1957 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2240.1405 (pause 1.32) 2241.4654 1958 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2241.4654 And for a brief spell I had to learn to take care of me. 2244.8316 1959 DTA_int_01 2245.2160 Mm-hm. 2245.5364 1960 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2246.6142 And I would always do it that way, you know. 2248.4899 1961 DTA_int_01 2248.8537 Hm. 2249.0795 1962 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2249.4494 Chips had to put some place, they'd put it on somebody else's shoulder, not on mine. 2253.5812 1963 DTA_int_01 2253.9963 [] 2254.4601 1964 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2254.3289 [And then] I'd just proceed to hit the other fella, and he'd- 2256.9170 1965 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2257.3441 while he was getting up off the ground, I would be getting out of the way. 2260.1885 1966 DTA_int_01 2260.3777 2261.1382 1967 DTA_int_01 2261.1382 (pause 1.76) 2262.8987 1968 DTA_int_01 2262.8987 I think you learned to handle yourself quite nicely. 2264.6410 1969 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2264.6719 [Mm-hm.] 2265.2183 1970 DTA_int_01 2265.1207 [] 2265.5478 1971 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2266.4723 I could run very fast. 2268.0200 1972 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2268.0200 (pause 1.36) 2269.3808 1973 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2269.3808 Quite a runner. 2270.1435 1974 DTA_int_01 2271.1451 Um, 2271.4898 1975 DTA_int_01 2271.4898 (pause 0.67) 2272.1641 1976 DTA_int_01 2272.1641 uh, have you ever been in the hospital? 2273.5410 1977 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2274.2122 Oh, yes. 2274.9780 1978 DTA_int_01 2275.7042 Can you tell- 2276.2106 1979 DTA_int_01 2276.2106 (pause 0.29) 2276.5013 1980 DTA_int_01 2276.5013 well, say, 2277.1085 1981 DTA_int_01 2277.1085 (pause 0.71) 2277.8163 1982 DTA_int_01 2277.8163 [uh,] 2278.0787 1983 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2277.9750 [You] don't wanna hear that. 2278.8941 1984 DTA_int_01 2278.9612 [well,] 2279.2529 1985 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2279.1443 [] 2279.9528 1986 DTA_int_01 2280.0444 say it- 2280.4540 1987 DTA_int_01 2280.4540 (pause 0.32) 2280.7705 1988 DTA_int_01 2280.7705 the first time you were ever in the hospital, what were your first impressions. 2283.3247 1989 DTA_int_01 2283.3247 (pause 0.24) 2283.5612 1990 DTA_int_01 2283.5612 Do you remember that? 2284.4069 1991 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2285.3449 Oh, the first time was for ton- for a tonsillectomy. 2288.1496 1992 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2288.1496 (pause 1.19) 2289.3434 1993 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2289.3434 And, um, 2290.4265 1994 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2290.4265 (pause 2.91) 2293.3350 1995 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2293.3350 I wasn't frightened, I trusted everyone there. 2296.2129 1996 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2296.2129 (pause 1.08) 2297.2938 1997 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2297.2938 So 2297.7942 1998 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2297.7942 (pause 1.10) 2298.8987 1999 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2298.8987 impressions were a 2300.2778 2000 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2300.2778 (pause 0.15) 2300.4281 2001 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2300.4281 bunch of other folks laying up in bed 2302.1368 2002 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2302.1368 (pause 0.82) 2302.9543 2003 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2302.9543 that didn't seem to be ill, and I didn't feel that I was going to be ill. 2306.3457 2004 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2306.3457 (pause 0.43) 2306.7759 2005 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2306.7759 And I really wasn't, because in 2308.2923 2006 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2308.2923 (pause 0.36) 2308.6492 2007 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2308.6492 those days it- 2309.1771 2008 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2309.1771 (pause 1.23) 2310.4105 2009 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2310.4105 you came in the morning and they 2312.1649 2010 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2312.1649 (pause 0.26) 2312.4212 2011 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2312.4212 operated the next morning, and you went home the next. 2314.8323 2012 DTA_int_01 2314.9208 Mm-hm. 2315.2167 2013 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2315.5714 So that was it was to it. 2316.7522 2014 DTA_int_01 2317.2129 Hm. 2317.5302 2015 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2317.9482 But I have spent some- 2319.0474 2016 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2319.0474 (pause 0.51) 2319.5600 2017 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2319.5600 as my oldest daughter, she's brought a new word home. 2322.1008 2018 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2322.1008 (pause 0.50) 2322.6027 2019 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2322.6027 She calls it horrendous. 2324.0276 2020 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2324.0276 (pause 0.71) 2324.7423 2021 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2324.7423 I have spent some horrendous times in the hospital since. [] 2328.2762 2022 DTA_int_01 2327.3243 [] 2328.0993 2023 DTA_int_01 2329.0634 Um, 2329.3563 2024 DTA_int_01 2329.3563 (pause 0.48) 2329.8323 2025 DTA_int_01 2329.8323 when a- 2330.1191 2026 DTA_int_01 2330.1191 (pause 0.16) 2330.2777 2027 DTA_int_01 2330.2777 when a person, 2330.9132 2028 DTA_int_01 2330.9132 (pause 0.81) 2331.7217 2029 DTA_int_01 2331.7217 uh, is- 2332.5882 2030 DTA_int_01 2332.5882 (pause 0.20) 2332.7926 2031 DTA_int_01 2332.7926 well, 2333.0428 2032 DTA_int_01 2333.0428 (pause 0.67) 2333.7148 2033 DTA_int_01 2333.7148 sick. He has a- 2334.6546 2034 DTA_int_01 2334.6546 (pause 0.27) 2334.9231 2035 DTA_int_01 2334.9231 he has a cold, 2335.4875 2036 DTA_int_01 2335.4875 (pause 0.48) 2335.9696 2037 DTA_int_01 2335.9696 and 2336.4341 2038 DTA_int_01 2336.4341 (pause 0.23) 2336.6630 2039 DTA_int_01 2336.6630 if that person comes around then you might be afraid of, 2338.7408 2040 DTA_int_01 2338.7408 (pause 0.33) 2339.0703 2041 DTA_int_01 2339.0703 um, what? 2339.5135 2042 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2340.3037 Catching it? 2340.7461 2043 DTA_int_01 2341.2617 Uh-huh. 2341.6579 2044 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2341.7621 Catching the cold. Is that what you mean? 2343.2731 2045 DTA_int_01 2343.3464 Yeah. 2343.5728 2046 DTA_int_01 2343.5728 (pause 0.15) 2343.7217 2047 DTA_int_01 2343.7217 Uh-huh. 2343.9780 2048 DTA_int_01 2343.9780 (pause 0.74) 2344.7163 2049 DTA_int_01 2344.7163 Um, 2345.1099 2050 DTA_int_01 2345.1099 (pause 1.90) 2347.0054 2051 DTA_int_01 2347.0054 let's see. Have you ever been in a- in a situation where you thought you might get killed or you might die? 2350.7830 2052 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2353.8384 Well I'm terribly afraid of flying and every time I get in an airplane, I- 2358.3617 2053 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2358.3617 (pause 1.41) 2359.7682 2054 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2359.7682 take it for better or for worse. 2361.1542 2055 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2361.1542 (pause 1.89) 2363.0489 2056 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2363.0489 But, I'm not panicked. 2364.3769 2057 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2364.3769 (pause 1.16) 2365.5333 2058 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2365.5333 Uh, I don't think I've ever been anywhere where I was really panicked. 2368.5882 2059 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2368.5882 (pause 2.01) 2370.6027 2060 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2370.6027 I was on the Boblo Boat once when the- 2372.9009 2061 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2372.9009 (pause 0.59) 2373.4929 2062 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2373.4929 a storm blew up 2374.4906 2063 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2374.4906 (pause 0.90) 2375.3876 2064 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2375.3876 and they had to pull the boat out from the shore. 2377.2831 2065 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2377.2831 (pause 1.82) 2379.1023 2066 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2379.1023 But 2379.2671 2067 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2379.2671 (pause 0.74) 2380.0115 2068 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2380.0115 I really wasn't frightened at that time. 2381.8521 2069 DTA_int_01 2382.1725 Mm-hm. 2382.4593 2070 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2384.0672 But I am terribly afraid of fire. 2385.6970 2071 DTA_int_01 2385.9322 Mm-hm. 2386.1427 2072 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2387.0123 And I've never been 2387.9742 2073 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2387.9742 (pause 0.94) 2388.9139 2074 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2388.9139 in any place that was on fire, so. 2390.9620 2075 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2390.9620 (pause 1.00) 2391.9658 2076 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2391.9658 I've 2392.4539 2077 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2392.4539 (pause 0.63) 2393.0855 2078 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2393.0855 forgone that (laughing) 2394.4806 2079 DTA_int_01 2394.4806 2394.7985 2080 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2394.9536 unpleasant experience. 2396.4028 2081 DTA_int_01 2396.6508 Sometimes people say that- 2397.6423 2082 DTA_int_01 2397.6423 (pause 0.24) 2397.8864 2083 DTA_int_01 2397.8864 uh, well when something happens to them they say, well 2399.9803 2084 DTA_int_01 2399.9803 (pause 0.18) 2400.1572 2085 DTA_int_01 2400.1572 I could'nt've 2400.7949 2086 DTA_int_01 2400.7949 (pause 0.28) 2401.0756 2087 DTA_int_01 2401.0756 prevented that. Whatever is gonna happen is gonna happen. 2403.1938 2088 DTA_int_01 2403.1938 (pause 0.10) 2403.2915 2089 DTA_int_01 2403.2915 Uh, what do you say to this? 2404.4417 2090 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2406.6484 Well I sort of believe that 2408.5287 2091 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2408.5287 (pause 0.18) 2408.7057 2092 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2408.7057 the will of God will be. 2410.4356 2093 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2410.4356 (pause 0.71) 2411.1462 2094 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2411.1462 I just try to submit myself to his will. 2414.0092 2095 DTA_int_01 2414.2572 Mm-hm. 2414.5226 2096 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2415.4074 That's all. 2415.7491 2097 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2415.7491 (pause 1.16) 2416.9085 2098 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2416.9085 Now that's not just a Catholic philosophy, that's been my philosophy all along. 2421.0260 2099 DTA_int_01 2421.2610 Mm-hm. 2421.4379 2100 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2422.6767 I'm not a fatalist, I don't think it's got to happen. 2425.2922 2101 DTA_int_01 2425.2922 Mm-hm. 2425.5897 2102 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2426.2014 But I do know that once you see the situation is set up, 2429.2716 2103 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2429.2716 (pause 1.11) 2430.3830 2104 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2430.3830 then you- there's no necessity is trying to 2432.4494 2105 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2432.4494 (pause 0.93) 2433.3830 2106 DTA_se3_ag4_f_01 2433.3830 do too much about it. 2434.4204 2107 DTA_int_01 2434.6950 Mm-hm. 2435.0060 2108 DTA_int_01 2435.0060 (pause 0.77) 2435.7758 2109 DTA_int_01 2435.7758 Okay. 2436.1542