Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 0.5120 That's my wife. 1.3945 2 LES_int_01 1.8818 Awesome. 2.1672 3 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 3.3802 [But.] 3.9246 4 LES_int_01 3.5646 [/RD-NAME-3/'s ] mom. 4.5831 5 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 4.6226 Yeah. /RD-NAME-3/ moms. 6.0346 6 LES_int_01 6.0346 She's so cute. 6.8249 7 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 7.2595 Thank you. 7.8961 8 LES_int_01 8.3922 Um. 9.2396 9 LES_int_01 9.2396 (pause 1.51) 10.7483 10 LES_int_01 10.7483 Okay. So, we were talking about the community. So, we've got these new folks moving into the neighborhood, right? 15.4239 11 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 15.6303 Uh-huh. 15.9157 12 LES_int_01 15.9332 That um, 17.0644 13 LES_int_01 17.0644 (pause 0.46) 17.5210 14 LES_int_01 17.5210 have more money, 18.5922 15 LES_int_01 18.5922 (pause 0.50) 19.0927 16 LES_int_01 19.0927 here for the night life, 20.6556 17 LES_int_01 20.6556 (pause 0.25) 20.9015 18 LES_int_01 20.9015 you know, 21.2659 19 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 21.4239 [Exactly.] 22.1264 20 LES_int_01 21.4415 [Some people] talk about gentrification. 23.2810 21 LES_int_01 24.3724 So, 24.8553 22 LES_int_01 24.8553 (pause 0.58) 25.4348 23 LES_int_01 25.4348 uh, are those folks part of the Lower East Side community? 28.4367 24 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 29.2620 Um. 29.6337 25 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 29.6337 (pause 0.18) 29.8093 26 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 29.8093 Anybody who's willing- 30.9200 27 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 30.9200 (pause 0.16) 31.0781 28 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 31.0781 who's willing to represent 32.8957 29 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 32.8957 (pause 0.73) 33.6289 30 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 33.6289 the Lower East Side, 34.4235 31 LES_int_01 34.5552 [Yeah.] 34.8537 32 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 34.7440 [is] a part of it. We don't discriminate. 36.3656 33 LES_int_01 36.7739 Yeah. 37.1619 34 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 37.1619 We motivate. 37.7809 35 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 38.6853 [And] 39.0558 36 LES_int_01 38.6853 [So, if] you make an effort. 39.7670 37 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 40.2631 Oh, definitely. 41.1192 38 LES_int_01 41.1192 Then it's all good. 41.9577 39 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 41.9577 It's all good. But, don't come in here and act like you 44.3943 40 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 44.9168 like I said earlier. Don't come in here, look at me like I'm the outsider. 48.0048 41 LES_int_01 48.1014 Right. 48.4087 42 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 48.8570 And like- like I was telling 'em- another example, when I was telling them detectives who's 53.0585 43 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 53.0585 (pause 0.14) 53.2023 44 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 53.2023 who pulled me over for no [apparently reason.] 55.2394 45 LES_int_01 54.6028 [I can't believe that.] 55.7882 46 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 56.2931 I was telling them, like 57.3248 47 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 57.3248 (pause 1.53) 58.8586 48 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 58.8586 Okay. I understand you said I fit the prescription. 61.1679 49 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 61.1679 (pause 0.40) 61.5630 50 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 61.5630 Okay. I heard it for thirty-nine years. 63.2313 51 LES_int_01 63.2313 Yeah . 63.6396 52 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 63.8723 But, 64.0918 53 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 64.0918 (pause 0.57) 64.6625 54 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 64.6625 this black man here, 65.6985 55 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 65.6985 (pause 1.30) 66.9937 56 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 66.9937 it's not the average black man. I'm tryna do something with myself. I tryna 70.4532 57 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 70.4532 (pause 0.28) 70.7298 58 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 70.7298 do something for the community. 71.8888 59 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 71.8888 (pause 0.24) 72.1303 60 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 72.1303 As we speak now, I'm trying to set this interview up as 74.7930 61 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 74.7930 (pause 0.29) 75.0827 62 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 75.0827 like, I had to use you and [everything] else. Like, she's right there, coming across the street. 78.8042 63 LES_int_01 76.4334 [Yeah.] 76.6529 64 LES_int_01 79.2564 [I wish I] had known those were the cops. I would have come over and 81.6916 65 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 79.2827 [That's why-] 79.7481 66 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 81.8277 [Like.] 82.0692 67 LES_int_01 81.9331 [given] them some shit. [I mean.] 83.3160 68 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 83.0131 [Like] that's why they was looking and 84.8482 69 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 85.1540 when I passed you the book, I had to let them know, listen. I have my- 87.5687 70 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 87.5687 (pause 0.23) 87.8014 71 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 87.8014 my book in my- my /thay/. 89.3292 72 LES_int_01 88.7892 [Yeah.] 89.4609 73 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 90.0448 I wanna know, can I pass it to her. And 91.8652 74 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 91.8652 (pause 0.94) 92.8048 75 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 92.8048 like, you got the wrong Black man. This Black man here tryna put out a book 96.1194 76 LES_int_01 96.2907 [Yeah.] 96.7472 77 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 96.4619 [speaking] about the community. 97.8126 78 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 97.9530 Tryna do murals to give back to the community. 100.3589 79 LES_int_01 100.5170 [Yeah.] 101.0350 80 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 100.7628 [I used] to say, I dream, I plan, I can. 103.0370 81 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 103.7526 And 104.1390 82 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 104.1390 (pause 0.90) 105.0422 83 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 105.0422 that's what I've been doing all my life. 106.6490 84 LES_int_01 106.6490 I like [that.] 107.2286 85 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 107.0793 [And] 107.4744 86 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 108.0188 everything I do, this is me from nineteen ninety-three. That's- 110.9087 87 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 110.9087 (pause 0.13) 111.0426 88 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 111.0426 That's my old school jacket I had since nineteen ninety-three. 113.8205 89 LES_int_01 113.9874 This one? 114.4571 90 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 114.7118 That one right there. 115.6644 91 LES_int_01 115.8313 That's amazing. 116.5557 92 LES_int_01 116.5557 (pause 0.44) 116.9947 93 LES_int_01 116.9947 Did you do that? 117.6664 94 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 117.7630 Uh. I design. I'm a visual designer. 120.0064 95 LES_int_01 120.0064 Okay. 120.4674 96 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 120.7099 A visual everything. I [have] 122.2904 97 LES_int_01 121.8514 [You come] up with the [concept .] 123.1685 98 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 122.9885 [I come] up with 123.5329 99 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 123.6295 everything and I bring I my own team to bring it to life. 126.8876 100 LES_int_01 127.0193 That's great. 127.7475 101 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 128.4148 [And] 128.7353 102 LES_int_01 128.6036 [Now,] what's- what's uh, the significance of Third D? 131.0227 103 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 131.6968 That's the heart 132.3450 104 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 132.3450 (pause 0.30) 132.6425 105 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 132.6425 of the Lower East Side. 133.4911 106 LES_int_01 133.7010 Okay. 134.1206 107 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 134.5009 Third Street and Avenue D is the heart 136.3185 108 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 136.3185 (pause 0.59) 136.9068 109 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 136.9068 that's where. 137.7146 110 LES_int_01 137.8420 Why that corner in particular? 139.1020 111 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 139.1020 That corner right there was the corner that 141.0560 112 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 142.0598 oh my God. It's just crazy. 143.3945 113 LES_int_01 143.5350 Why? 143.9740 114 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 144.0223 Um. 144.4087 115 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 144.4087 (pause 0.60) 145.0057 116 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 145.0057 The biggest drug dealers, the biggest gun fights, um. 147.9501 117 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 147.9501 (pause 1.50) 149.4472 118 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 149.4472 D stand for dead. 150.5096 119 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 150.5096 (pause 1.07) 151.5809 120 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 151.5809 And 152.0155 121 LES_int_01 152.0759 [Yeah.] 152.5324 122 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 152.3261 [i- it was] just like 153.3929 123 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 155.2456 the heart of the whole Lower East Side from Brooklyn Bridge to Third Avenue, or Fourteenth Street, from East to s- 160.3043 124 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 160.3043 (pause 0.12) 160.4272 125 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 160.4272 from south to um, e- um, north. 162.6344 126 LES_int_01 163.3939 Yeah. 163.7803 127 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 163.9488 Third Street is the heart. 164.7944 128 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 164.7944 (pause 0.40) 165.1963 129 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 165.1963 [That's where um.] 165.9821 130 LES_int_01 165.3895 [Right.] 165.7450 131 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 166.7856 That's where, [um,] 167.4737 132 LES_int_01 167.1840 [/inaudible/] 168.3035 133 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 167.5791 [everybody] 168.2684 134 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 168.4528 that's where everybody 169.5767 135 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 169.5767 (pause 0.97) 170.5469 136 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 170.5469 who was doing 171.7044 137 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 171.7044 (pause 0.18) 171.8800 138 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 171.8800 the drugs in the 172.9952 139 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 172.9952 (pause 0.16) 173.1576 140 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 173.1576 early seventies, late seventies, eighties, and all that 175.6294 141 LES_int_01 175.8313 [Yeah.] 176.2001 142 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 176.0640 [they] had to come from. 177.1967 143 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 177.9657 Where ever they was coming from, 179.1554 144 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 179.1554 (pause 0.10) 179.2520 145 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 179.2520 they had to make it from B 180.4989 146 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 180.4989 (pause 0.85) 181.3506 147 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 181.3506 A, B, C [to get] to D. 183.2296 148 LES_int_01 182.3077 [Yeah.] 182.6632 149 LES_int_01 183.9525 [Okay.] 184.3125 150 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 184.2335 [Now,] once you get to D to make it back out, 186.1740 151 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 186.6569 it was serious 187.4867 152 LES_int_01 187.6974 Really? 188.0706 153 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 188.0706 in the eighties and all that, like wow. 189.9569 154 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 190.2203 You gotta go back through like f- three more a- [a- a- avenues to get out of it.] 193.7457 155 LES_int_01 192.8589 [] 193.8599 156 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 194.2111 And you [just made it.] 195.0540 157 LES_int_01 194.6501 [Yeah.] 195.0540 158 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 195.3043 Like wow, we- we on Avenue D, it was something to talk about. Smashing Pumpkins, 199.2549 159 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 199.2549 (pause 0.68) 199.9354 160 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 199.9354 he made it to Avenue D, 201.1219 161 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 201.1219 (pause 0.13) 201.2536 162 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 201.2536 and got murdered by um, a overdose. 203.5168 163 LES_int_01 203.5738 Really? 203.9602 164 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 204.0875 One of the guys from [Smashing Pumpkins.] 206.1992 165 LES_int_01 205.5670 [I didn't know that.] 206.2651 166 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 206.3968 Yeah, it's in my book. 207.4504 167 LES_int_01 207.7534 Crazy. 208.3768 168 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 208.3768 Yeah. Um. 209.3064 169 LES_int_01 209.6676 Now, uh. I- 210.8249 170 LES_int_01 210.8249 (pause 0.39) 211.2156 171 LES_int_01 211.2156 uh. At any point in your life, or- or- I mean. 213.4168 172 LES_int_01 213.4168 (pause 0.13) 213.5441 173 LES_int_01 213.5441 I know that there are 214.4748 174 LES_int_01 214.4748 (pause 0.08) 214.5539 175 LES_int_01 214.5539 gangs operating in the neighborhood. And were you involved with them? Or were they are strong presence? Is that. 219.3469 176 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 219.3865 Of course it was gangs all- all my life. It was, um. 222.3471 177 LES_int_01 222.3471 Yeah. 222.7554 178 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 223.0715 A bunch of gangs. Um. 224.3184 179 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 224.3184 (pause 0.19) 224.5115 180 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 224.5115 DDT. 225.5175 181 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 225.5175 (pause 0.27) 225.7897 182 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 225.7897 Um. 226.2314 183 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 226.2314 (pause 0.18) 226.4114 184 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 226.4114 Doing Damage Together. 227.8427 185 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 227.8427 (pause 0.62) 228.4633 186 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 228.4633 [Um.] 228.9287 187 LES_int_01 228.8277 [Okay.] 229.2525 188 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 230.1580 Um. 230.5224 189 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 230.5224 (pause 0.48) 231.0009 190 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 231.0009 HP. What it for? Um. 232.5331 191 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 232.5331 (pause 0.09) 232.6253 192 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 232.6253 Putting out heads. 233.7086 193 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 233.7086 (pause 0.65) 234.3583 194 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 234.3583 Um. 234.8808 195 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 234.8808 (pause 0.10) 234.9818 196 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 234.9818 Third Street Boys. 236.0793 197 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 236.0793 (pause 0.79) 236.8652 198 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 236.8652 Killer Hill. 237.5808 199 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 237.5808 (pause 0.29) 237.8662 200 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 237.8662 That's up by the Brooklyn [Bridge, Killer] Hill, and 240.5711 201 LES_int_01 239.4439 [Yeah.] 239.8215 202 LES_int_01 241.3789 Did you ever join one when you were young? [I mean, it's- just want protection] or something right? 245.4317 203 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 242.7009 [Um.] 243.0653 204 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 243.0653 (pause 0.23) 243.2936 205 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 243.2936 [Again, um,] 244.2419 206 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 245.4844 I di- I didn't have to join a gang, cause one, 247.7146 207 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 247.7146 (pause 0.32) 248.0351 208 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 248.0351 when you popular, 248.9395 209 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 248.9395 (pause 0.46) 249.4005 210 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 249.4005 and you know half the world, 250.6155 211 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 250.6155 (pause 0.48) 251.0984 212 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 251.0984 you don't need to join a gang. 252.2706 213 LES_int_01 252.2706 Okay. 252.5999 214 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 252.7228 And, 253.2014 215 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 253.2014 (pause 0.59) 253.7910 216 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 253.7910 that's what made me. 254.7722 217 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 254.7722 (pause 0.55) 255.3224 218 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 255.3224 That's what separated me from 256.6140 219 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 256.6140 (pause 0.09) 256.7073 220 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 256.7073 /RD-NAME-2/, 257.2985 221 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 257.2985 (pause 0.10) 257.3964 222 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 257.3964 and got the industry name 258.7346 223 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 258.7346 (pause 0.17) 258.9025 224 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 258.9025 Big Shot. 259.4621 225 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 259.4621 (pause 0.66) 260.1226 226 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 260.1226 Cause all my life, I had the- I had the revenue. 262.6500 227 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 262.6500 (pause 0.51) 263.1582 228 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 263.1582 And all my life, I was giving back- 264.9427 229 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 264.9427 (pause 0.17) 265.1153 230 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 265.1153 [giving back. And] 266.2483 231 LES_int_01 265.1262 [Got it.] 265.6204 232 LES_int_01 265.6204 (pause 0.19) 265.8069 233 LES_int_01 265.8069 [Got it.] 266.2483 234 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 267.3721 to investing and to 268.7515 235 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 268.7515 (pause 1.24) 269.9871 236 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 269.9871 tryna put my own record out, 271.4046 237 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 271.4046 (pause 0.27) 271.6751 238 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 271.6751 to coming out with my own clothes, 273.4396 239 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 273.4396 (pause 0.33) 273.7660 240 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 273.7660 and just giving back to the community 275.4517 241 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 275.4517 (pause 0.06) 275.5123 242 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 275.5123 [all my life, and] 276.7248 243 LES_int_01 275.5123 [Yeah.] 275.8528 244 LES_int_01 275.8528 (pause 0.40) 276.2539 245 LES_int_01 276.2539 [Yeah.] 276.7248 246 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 277.9386 eventually, something's gonna come out of it. 279.5193 247 LES_int_01 279.5706 Yeah, I'm sure it will. 280.6104 248 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 280.6104 It definitely is. 281.5010 249 LES_int_01 281.5010 So, uh 282.7740 250 LES_int_01 282.7740 (pause 0.39) 283.1645 251 LES_int_01 283.1645 I always ask people, um 285.0344 252 LES_int_01 285.0344 (pause 0.23) 285.2628 253 LES_int_01 285.2628 to tell me a couple of places in the neighborhood, 288.0279 254 LES_int_01 288.0279 (pause 0.28) 288.3031 255 LES_int_01 288.3031 that are really meaningful to them. 289.6924 256 LES_int_01 289.6924 (pause 0.15) 289.8416 257 LES_int_01 289.8416 like places where you used to spend time. And you- think, maybe just- you t- you just told me one which was the 294.2154 258 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 294.4631 [Third Street.] 294.9770 259 LES_int_01 294.4631 [Avenue D.] 295.2428 260 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 295.2428 That's- you see it right there. That's where 297.2571 261 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 297.9379 when I wanna go get a piece of mind and 299.8473 262 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 299.8473 (pause 0.66) 300.5094 263 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 300.5094 just to reminisce, you can find me on Third Street and Avenue D, sitting down. 303.9366 264 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 303.9366 (pause 1.01) 304.9438 265 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 304.9438 Every- [any day.] 305.9251 266 LES_int_01 305.3422 [Just- s-] 305.9251 267 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 306.1303 Any [day] of the week. 306.9696 268 LES_int_01 306.2888 [e-] 306.4800 269 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 307.0908 I don't care how many kids there now. 308.8348 270 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 308.8348 (pause 0.40) 309.2311 271 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 309.2311 Like, it's a new generation coming up, call theyself Money Boys. 312.0191 272 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 312.0191 (pause 0.58) 312.6030 273 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 312.6030 [And.] 313.1485 274 LES_int_01 312.9061 [What's] that? 313.4889 275 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 314.1091 Money Boys is 315.0930 276 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 315.0930 (pause 0.71) 315.8017 277 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 315.8017 these kids 316.6410 278 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 316.6410 (pause 0.23) 316.8695 279 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 316.8695 mine- my- my godson, 318.2684 280 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 318.2684 (pause 0.61) 318.8756 281 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 318.8756 this kid right here in this picture. 320.3771 282 LES_int_01 320.3771 Yeah. 320.7361 283 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 321.9251 His father 322.7551 284 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 322.7551 (pause 0.12) 322.8764 285 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 322.8764 got murdered in nineteen ninety-three. 324.6390 286 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 324.6390 (pause 0.67) 325.3088 287 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 325.3088 Named /RD-NAME-2/. 326.0921 288 LES_int_01 326.4409 Mm-hm. 326.8186 289 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 326.9678 /RD-NAME-2/ is in that picture with me up there. 328.6838 290 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 328.6838 (pause 0.12) 328.8050 291 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 328.8050 That's the father. 329.6443 292 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 329.6443 (pause 0.54) 330.1803 293 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 330.1803 That's my godson. [That's his] son. 331.6911 294 LES_int_01 330.9124 [/inaudible/] 331.3896 295 LES_int_01 331.7728 He's your godson. Okay. 332.8708 296 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 333.0760 Now, 333.5469 297 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 333.5469 (pause 0.99) 334.5410 298 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 334.5410 his son is coming up, 335.7347 299 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 335.7347 (pause 0.24) 335.9772 300 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 335.9772 at sixteen years old, 337.1289 301 LES_int_01 337.2921 Yeah. 337.6558 302 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 337.8983 a- and it's called Money Boys and they be out there now. Money Boys 341.1418 303 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 341.1418 (pause 0.57) 341.7107 304 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 341.7107 they wearing 342.4241 305 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 342.4241 (pause 0.93) 343.3520 306 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 343.3520 them kids wearing three hundred dollar jeans, 345.3720 307 LES_int_01 346.1181 Jesus. 346.7131 308 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 346.7196 two hundred, three hundred sh- um, sneakers. 348.8645 309 LES_int_01 348.9531 Yeah. 349.3868 310 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 349.6199 They got the Ed Hardy and ef- 351.4008 311 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 351.4008 (pause 0.21) 351.6060 312 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 351.6060 That name brand probably is too less for them, but [they got all kind of.] 355.0439 313 LES_int_01 353.8642 [] 354.6709 314 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 355.7247 And they call theyself Money Boys [cause] 357.3876 315 LES_int_01 357.0568 [Ho-] how do they g- do it? 358.9686 316 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 359.5328 They- they out there doing what they gotta do. 361.3366 317 LES_int_01 361.3366 They're [hustling.] 362.1153 318 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 361.8728 [Like.] 362.1153 319 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 362.9872 Sleeping in the rat hole, again. 364.4188 320 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 364.4188 (pause 0.48) 364.9037 321 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 364.9037 You- e- this is my rat hole when you 366.6437 322 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 366.6437 (pause 0.20) 366.8443 323 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 366.8443 when somebody in the next room making whoopy, 368.7001 324 LES_int_01 369.0710 [Yeah.] 369.3694 325 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 369.2016 [or] making love and you take the glass and put it in the wall, 371.7289 326 LES_int_01 371.8965 Yeah. 372.3069 327 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 372.3069 or when somebody outside that window hustling and you acting naive. 376.4429 328 LES_int_01 376.6993 Yeah. 377.1096 329 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 377.6335 That's sleeping in the rathole. 378.7759 330 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 378.7759 (pause 0.23) 379.0044 331 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 379.0044 [Like.] 379.3447 332 LES_int_01 379.0044 [Okay.] 379.3447 333 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 379.5406 However they getting it, they getting it. I don't know. 381.7788 334 LES_int_01 381.9700 [Okay.] 382.3570 335 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 382.2031 [I don't] be out there with them, and 383.7455 336 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 384.3424 the only thing I give to them is my advice. 386.5278 337 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 386.5278 (pause 0.55) 387.0780 338 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 387.0780 All the time. 387.8194 339 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 387.8194 (pause 0.29) 388.1120 340 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 388.1120 [Like] all the time. The best I can give you is my advice, my advice, my advice, I can't do nothing else for [you but.] 392.9216 341 LES_int_01 388.1301 [Right.] 388.4565 342 LES_int_01 388.4565 (pause 4.26) 392.7118 343 LES_int_01 392.7118 [And] what's your advice for a kid coming up now who's sixteen. 395.8366 344 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 396.1832 [Sixteen years old.] 397.1764 345 LES_int_01 396.5982 [On Avenue D.] 397.4515 346 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 398.5240 The advice I give to my sixteen year old godson, [/RD-NAME-4/] 401.8020 347 LES_int_01 400.8461 [Yeah.] 401.1259 348 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 402.6553 /RD-NAME-2/, you skreet smart, 403.9224 349 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 403.9224 (pause 0.75) 404.6732 350 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 404.6732 and you're school smart. 405.5545 351 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 405.5545 (pause 1.20) 406.7575 352 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 406.7575 You sixteen. 407.6434 353 LES_int_01 407.7367 Yeah. 408.1051 354 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 408.4175 You got three more years, to either make it past your father's due date of death, 412.6769 355 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 412.6769 (pause 0.90) 413.5815 356 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 413.5815 or you ain't gonna make it. 414.4441 357 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 414.4441 (pause 0.84) 415.2849 358 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 415.2849 The only thing I can give you now, is my love. 417.4578 359 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 417.4578 (pause 0.10) 417.5557 360 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 417.5557 And, 417.9567 361 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 417.9567 (pause 0.32) 418.2738 362 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 418.2738 any time you wanna come uptown and talk to me and stay over, 421.1656 363 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 421.1656 (pause 0.33) 421.4920 364 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 421.4920 the door's always open for you. 422.9090 365 LES_int_01 423.0765 Yeah. 423.4355 366 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 423.5102 Now 423.9764 367 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 423.9764 (pause 0.35) 424.3215 368 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 424.3215 the financial part, like I used to give you money to all the kids and all that, 427.8086 369 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 427.8086 (pause 0.98) 428.7878 370 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 428.7878 I don't- ain't out there going backwards in life no more and everything else, like I'm struggling myself 433.3228 371 LES_int_01 433.4347 [Sure, yeah.] Everybody [is.] 435.1413 372 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 433.4906 [to maintain.] 434.2367 373 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 434.2367 (pause 0.58) 434.8196 374 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 434.8196 [So, it's like] 435.4395 375 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 435.5374 the most I can give you is this, from somebody who- 437.8549 376 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 437.8549 (pause 0.17) 438.0274 377 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 438.0274 who been through it all, 439.1838 378 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 439.1838 (pause 0.32) 439.5055 379 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 439.5055 and this and that, 440.1369 380 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 440.1369 (pause 0.32) 440.4540 381 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 440.4540 and never got more than three days in prison, 442.5107 382 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 442.5107 (pause 0.60) 443.1075 383 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 443.1075 f- no jail record at thirty-eight. 444.8887 384 LES_int_01 444.9913 Yeah. 445.3317 385 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 445.6488 A- a- n- and that's kind of awkward for a Black man who was raised in Manhattan, in Lower East Side, Brooklyn, whatever. 450.6923 386 LES_int_01 450.6923 Yeah. 451.0700 387 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 451.1259 To be thirty-eight, 451.9652 388 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 451.9652 (pause 1.00) 452.9668 389 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 452.9668 and the cops still tryna put him in, for no reason. 455.3029 390 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 455.3029 (pause 0.16) 455.4582 391 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 455.4582 Like, come on. I told them today, 456.9363 392 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 456.9363 (pause 0.63) 457.5658 393 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 457.5658 all you're doing is practicing. 458.8341 394 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 458.8341 (pause 0.26) 459.0906 395 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 459.0906 I'm thirty-eight and a half with no jail record, 461.2250 396 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 461.2250 (pause 0.37) 461.5934 397 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 461.5934 you can put my ID through the system all you want, 463.9482 398 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 463.9482 (pause 0.14) 464.0927 399 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 464.0927 [and] it's gonna come back up negative. 465.6175 400 LES_int_01 464.0927 [Yeah.] 464.4704 401 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 465.6921 [I don't] have no record at all. I can go to sleep, and wake up in the morning 468.8459 402 LES_int_01 465.6921 [Yeah.] 466.0901 403 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 469.1583 and still be at peace. 470.2215 404 LES_int_01 470.4127 Right. 470.7064 405 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 471.3021 Now, 471.6845 406 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 471.6845 (pause 0.19) 471.8710 407 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 471.8710 again, if they woulda pat me down, or- and went through my pockets, they would have definitely found like forty dollars and some good ass weed. 477.5413 408 LES_int_01 477.5413 Yeah. [] 479.0707 409 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 478.4319 [But,] 478.7117 410 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 479.3553 everybody [know,] since I was thirteen, that's my MO. 482.9084 411 LES_int_01 480.2505 [But.] 480.4837 412 LES_int_01 483.0262 Yeah. 483.6276 413 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 483.8032 And it's not a downfall. It mo- i- it make me motivate. 486.8633 414 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 486.8633 (pause 0.40) 487.2584 415 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 487.2584 I use it to my advantage. 488.6370 416 LES_int_01 490.2774 Hi. 491.0062 417 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 491.7218 [That's my.] 492.0994 418 LES_int_01 491.7218 [It's a little] kitten. 492.5331 419 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 492.5331 Yeah, that's my kitten. It's called Midnight. 494.2682 420 LES_int_01 494.4526 So sweet. [I have a black] cat [too.] 496.4617 421 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 495.0085 [] 495.7197 422 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 495.7197 (pause 0.34) 496.0578 423 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 496.0578 [Yeah.] Midnight. 496.9841 424 LES_int_01 497.9461 Really cute. Sorry, I'm distracted. I really like cats. 500.2554 425 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 500.2115 [Kay.] 500.5144 426 LES_int_01 500.8612 Um. 501.3561 427 LES_int_01 501.3561 (pause 0.80) 502.1592 428 LES_int_01 502.1592 I wanna ask you your opinion about uh, housing in the neighborhood. I think I told you that some of the groups I'm working with are interested in 508.9488 429 LES_int_01 508.9488 (pause 0.55) 509.5020 430 LES_int_01 509.5020 you know, housing and, 510.9497 431 LES_int_01 510.9497 (pause 0.14) 511.0858 432 LES_int_01 511.0858 and what gets built in the neighborhood. 512.7370 433 LES_int_01 512.7370 (pause 0.28) 513.0136 434 LES_int_01 513.0136 And you obviously seen 514.2429 435 LES_int_01 514.2429 (pause 0.13) 514.3746 436 LES_int_01 514.3746 some of these 514.8854 437 LES_int_01 514.8854 (pause 1.10) 515.9858 438 LES_int_01 515.9858 big tall buildings going up, luxury. 518.2073 439 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 518.5673 Again, 519.1292 440 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 519.1292 (pause 0.15) 519.2785 441 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 519.2785 if you can afford it, 520.2575 442 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 520.2575 (pause 0.40) 520.6527 443 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 520.6527 I'm not mad at you. 521.6624 444 LES_int_01 521.7327 Yeah. 522.1366 445 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 522.3433 Know what I'm saying, but just don't come down here 524.3678 446 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 524.3678 (pause 1.03) 525.4006 447 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 525.4006 and look at the- 526.0152 448 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 526.0152 (pause 0.41) 526.4235 449 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 526.4235 the projects 527.4201 450 LES_int_01 527.6747 Yeah. 528.1192 451 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 528.8700 and the mixed community 530.1909 452 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 530.1909 (pause 1.69) 531.8768 453 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 531.8768 like we shit. 532.6275 454 LES_int_01 532.7565 Yeah. 533.1955 455 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 534.0428 Know what I'm saying, cause everything is time for change. 536.1666 456 LES_int_01 536.2061 Right. 536.6539 457 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 537.2898 And 537.8788 458 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 537.8788 (pause 0.43) 538.3047 459 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 538.3047 [Like,] 538.6301 460 LES_int_01 538.3582 [/?/] 538.6418 461 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 538.7794 Now, big buildings is going up all over the world. It's just not just down here. 542.1944 462 LES_int_01 543.1208 Yeah. 543.5554 463 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 543.7091 Now, if you can afford it, 545.1052 464 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 545.1052 (pause 0.13) 545.2307 465 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 545.2307 you gotta get in where you fit in. 546.6048 466 LES_int_01 546.9253 Right. 547.2634 467 LES_int_01 547.2634 (pause 0.74) 548.0038 468 LES_int_01 548.0038 So you said you were, 548.8555 469 LES_int_01 548.8555 (pause 0.12) 548.9784 470 LES_int_01 548.9784 uh, when I talked to you on the phone earlier, you said you were down by Delancey Street. So, have you seen 553.4549 471 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 553.8764 [Yes.] 554.3812 472 LES_int_01 553.8764 [right] 554.3812 473 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 554.7544 [The- the blue one?] 555.6341 474 LES_int_01 554.7544 [right by the Williamsburg] bridge. No- No, not the blue building. Um. 557.9083 475 LES_int_01 558.5844 You're right by the bridge on Delancey. 560.3426 476 LES_int_01 560.3426 (pause 0.27) 560.6148 477 LES_int_01 560.6148 There's all these parking lots. 561.8748 478 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 562.3314 [Uh-huh.] 562.6519 479 LES_int_01 562.4456 [They're] surrounded by fences. [Do you know what I'm talking about?] 564.3290 480 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 563.6441 [Yes.] 563.9540 481 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 563.9540 (pause 0.14) 564.0989 482 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 564.0989 [Yes.] Across the street from- [on.] 565.4007 483 LES_int_01 565.2905 [So,] that's a 566.3431 484 LES_int_01 566.4660 lot that's owned by the city, 567.7348 485 LES_int_01 567.7348 (pause 0.71) 568.4460 486 LES_int_01 568.4460 that people have been trying to develop for 570.7245 487 LES_int_01 570.7245 (pause 0.40) 571.1284 488 LES_int_01 571.1284 as long as you've lived here. 572.3007 489 LES_int_01 572.3007 (pause 0.10) 572.3972 490 LES_int_01 572.3972 Longer. 572.8977 491 LES_int_01 572.8977 (pause 0.41) 573.3060 492 LES_int_01 573.3060 The city bought it in like the sixties. 574.9760 493 LES_int_01 574.9760 (pause 0.35) 575.3272 494 LES_int_01 575.3272 And they haven't been able to build anything there because the community has been kind of divided 579.9935 495 LES_int_01 579.9935 (pause 0.40) 580.3930 496 LES_int_01 580.3930 over 581.2711 497 LES_int_01 581.2711 (pause 0.32) 581.5872 498 LES_int_01 581.5872 what to build there. 582.5618 499 LES_int_01 582.5618 (pause 0.42) 582.9789 500 LES_int_01 582.9789 and it's sort of about 584.9046 501 LES_int_01 584.9046 (pause 0.16) 585.0670 502 LES_int_01 585.0670 uh, 585.6597 503 LES_int_01 585.6597 (pause 0.32) 585.9758 504 LES_int_01 585.9758 some people wanna put up affordable housing, 587.9415 505 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 588.5254 [That'd be nice.] 589.2718 506 LES_int_01 588.6527 [low income housing.] 589.7441 507 LES_int_01 589.8908 Some people wanna put up 591.0674 508 LES_int_01 591.0674 (pause 0.41) 591.4757 509 LES_int_01 591.4757 something different. 592.1814 510 LES_int_01 592.1814 (pause 0.10) 592.2824 511 LES_int_01 592.2824 Maybe like the blue building, [or maybe you know,] something for like the middle class, or whatever. 597.2681 512 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 593.7646 [Exactly.] 594.6910 513 LES_int_01 597.5491 People 597.9881 514 LES_int_01 597.9881 (pause 0.18) 598.1637 515 LES_int_01 598.1637 are 598.4798 516 LES_int_01 598.4798 (pause 0.63) 599.1076 517 LES_int_01 599.1076 conflicted about that. 600.1349 518 LES_int_01 600.1349 (pause 0.45) 600.5893 519 LES_int_01 600.5893 And so, I ask everybody that I interview, 602.7186 520 LES_int_01 602.7186 (pause 0.40) 603.1181 521 LES_int_01 603.1181 if you, you've seen those lots. It's a really big [space.] 605.5663 522 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 604.7557 [Definitely.] 605.0630 523 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 605.0630 (pause 0.23) 605.2957 524 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 605.2957 [The-] it is. 606.0025 525 LES_int_01 606.6259 What do you think should be 608.0116 526 LES_int_01 608.0116 (pause 0.22) 608.2355 527 LES_int_01 608.2355 built there? And it doesn't have to be housing. It could be housing plus, you know, other things. Some people maybe want a 613.3518 528 LES_int_01 613.3518 (pause 0.33) 613.6855 529 LES_int_01 613.6855 Home Depot, some people want 615.6106 530 LES_int_01 615.6106 (pause 0.14) 615.7467 531 LES_int_01 615.7467 you know, [a movie] theater. 616.9760 532 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 616.1049 [I-] 616.2936 533 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 617.0682 I [think] 617.8014 534 LES_int_01 617.3623 [If it were] up to you, what would you build on a lot on the Lower East Side? 620.8701 535 LES_int_01 622.5033 What does [the community need?] 623.4692 536 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 622.9292 [I- I'd build] 623.8336 537 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 625.6665 a big r- a recreation 627.5412 538 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 627.5412 (pause 0.16) 627.7019 539 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 627.7019 community center 628.8215 540 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 628.8215 (pause 0.34) 629.1579 541 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 629.1579 for the youth. 630.0535 542 LES_int_01 630.2949 Yeah. 630.6110 543 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 631.3398 Like, I think that's what they need to invest they money in. Something to keep the kids off the streets. 635.6983 544 LES_int_01 635.8300 [Right.] 636.2910 545 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 636.0275 [And that] space it so s- 637.1734 546 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 637.5378 it's spacious. [I mean, and.] 638.7402 547 LES_int_01 638.3714 [Yeah.] 638.7402 548 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 639.8948 And put computers in there. 641.1548 549 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 641.1548 (pause 0.35) 641.5060 550 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 641.5060 Put something 642.0082 551 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 642.0082 (pause 0.23) 642.2365 552 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 642.2365 you gotta have- you gotta trick the kids these days. [You gotta.] 644.7565 553 LES_int_01 644.4053 [] 644.7565 554 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 645.3759 Like, y- y- [you.] 646.5378 555 LES_int_01 646.2041 [Get 'em] playing a game [or. ] 647.7056 556 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 647.2314 [Yeah.] You gotta get 'em in there. By all means necessary, you just can't build a building, and be like okay, this is for the youth. 652.6491 557 LES_int_01 652.7906 Right. 653.1418 558 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 653.6292 You gotta target them. 654.5511 559 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 654.5511 (pause 0.12) 654.6740 560 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 654.6740 Know what I'm saying, you gotta 655.4423 561 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 655.4423 (pause 0.48) 655.9253 562 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 655.9253 it's- 656.1404 563 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 656.1404 (pause 0.36) 656.5048 564 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 656.5048 it gotta be open at a certain time. 658.4008 565 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 658.4008 (pause 0.40) 658.7965 566 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 658.7965 [If] not, 659.2531 567 LES_int_01 658.7965 [Right.] 659.0476 568 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 659.6702 they gonna be back on the corners. 660.9302 569 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 660.9302 (pause 0.25) 661.1804 570 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 661.1804 You gotta have computers in there I think they should have a 663.3168 571 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 663.3168 (pause 0.27) 663.5890 572 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 663.5890 a video room in there. 664.8710 573 LES_int_01 665.1739 Okay. 665.5734 574 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 665.6217 I think they should have something would hold, at least 667.4964 575 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 667.4964 (pause 0.11) 667.6105 576 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 667.6105 twenty to thirty kids. 669.0796 577 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 669.0796 (pause 0.08) 669.1586 578 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 669.1586 Another, uh, another big space in there, 671.1694 579 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 671.1694 (pause 0.88) 672.0474 580 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 672.0474 with a- with a, uh, a big movie theater. Not a- not even a movie theater. Just a projector, we got a wall, and we could show uh- a- all movies. 679.3122 581 LES_int_01 679.3912 Yeah. 679.6766 582 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 679.7293 Or rent movies, and show movies. Somewhere they can be there from- 682.6576 583 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 682.6576 (pause 0.39) 683.0439 584 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 683.0439 from six to eight. 684.2776 585 LES_int_01 684.6727 Right. 685.0679 586 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 685.3181 Know what I'm saying, and 686.1786 587 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 686.1786 (pause 1.08) 687.2608 588 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 687.2608 I think j- that's one good way to give back to the community [because] 689.9345 589 LES_int_01 689.5569 [Yeah.] 689.9345 590 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 690.0486 No lie, 690.6100 591 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 690.6100 (pause 1.18) 691.7882 592 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 691.7882 we got a lot of, lot of people 693.6278 593 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 693.6278 (pause 0.29) 693.9131 594 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 693.9131 down here 694.5453 595 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 694.5453 (pause 0.70) 695.2434 596 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 695.2434 who's struggling, trying to make ends meet, by going to work 698.0060 597 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 698.0060 (pause 0.68) 698.6865 598 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 698.6865 and everything else, but 699.6479 599 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 699.6479 (pause 0.19) 699.8356 600 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 699.8356 by the time, the end of the forty hours, 701.9210 601 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 701.9210 (pause 0.77) 702.6893 602 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 702.6893 you don't got nothing. 703.4427 603 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 703.4427 (pause 0.29) 703.7325 604 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 703.7325 [Cause the] 704.1320 605 LES_int_01 703.7325 [Yeah.] 704.1320 606 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 704.3120 I think it should be a free place. 705.9276 607 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 705.9276 (pause 0.44) 706.3667 608 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 706.3667 Government ran. 707.4818 609 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 707.4818 (pause 0.65) 708.1299 610 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 708.1299 But have enough people, uh, staff in there 710.3426 611 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 710.3426 (pause 0.58) 710.9265 612 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 710.9265 to take on the babysitting jobs and all that, cause that's- 713.9081 613 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 713.9081 (pause 0.36) 714.2637 614 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 714.2637 that's- that's crucial right now. That's a lot of money coming out from one check 717.8082 615 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 717.8082 (pause 0.43) 718.2429 616 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 718.2429 the rent, 718.7390 617 LES_int_01 719.0902 Right. 719.4502 618 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 719.6829 the food. 720.2800 619 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 720.2800 (pause 0.50) 720.7804 620 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 720.7804 And then you gotta work again next week, like, I'm really, really broke. 723.8010 621 LES_int_01 723.9590 Yeah. 724.4551 622 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 724.7712 [So, I] think they should staff it 726.1508 623 LES_int_01 724.7712 [Yeah.] 725.1631 624 LES_int_01 726.5855 Yeah. 726.8796 625 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 726.9499 and have it free 727.9289 626 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 727.9289 (pause 0.95) 728.8816 627 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 728.8816 for nine to five people. Nine to six. 731.1678 628 LES_int_01 731.1678 Right. 731.5893 629 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 731.9729 Yeah. I- it's- it's a good deed. I don't know how it's gonna lose, they gonna lose out, they gonna say they losing out cause they ain't making no income, they gotta pay these people. 739.1362 630 LES_int_01 739.6147 [Right.] 739.9396 631 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 739.7332 [But,] it's some way. 740.9971 632 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 741.4405 Like, even if we gotta pay ten dollars a child, or 743.9490 633 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 743.9490 (pause 0.28) 744.2300 634 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 744.2300 something. 744.7568 635 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 744.7568 (pause 1.35) 746.1090 636 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 746.1090 It don't have to be free. Everything don't have to be free. But, long as we pay like a l- 749.5718 637 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 749.5718 (pause 0.40) 749.9741 638 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 749.9741 twenty dollars a child, and 751.3252 639 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 751.3252 (pause 0.24) 751.5666 640 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 751.5666 and if it's big enough, twenty dollars time whatever, whatever, 754.3720 641 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 754.3720 (pause 0.44) 754.8154 642 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 754.8154 should add up to something to pay 756.6912 643 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 756.6912 (pause 0.50) 757.1873 644 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 757.1873 somebody. 757.8546 645 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 757.8546 (pause 0.14) 757.9984 646 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 757.9984 Meaning, you [might get] 758.7623 647 LES_int_01 758.4637 [Yeah.] 758.7623 648 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 759.0433 and it's a lot of people out there, believe me, who work 761.3043 649 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 761.3043 (pause 0.15) 761.4535 650 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 761.4535 who wanna do those things like that free. 763.2815 651 LES_int_01 763.9313 [Yeah.] 764.2166 652 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 763.9708 [Who would] help out, oh don't worry, and 765.8586 653 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 766.9430 it's called giving back. 767.9176 654 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 767.9176 (pause 0.18) 768.0976 655 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 768.0976 [And that's-] that's why I look at that. So, the only thing that comes off the head is uh, 771.6548 656 LES_int_01 768.2601 [Yeah.] 768.6156 657 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 772.7129 a big 773.2139 658 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 773.2139 (pause 0.13) 773.3456 659 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 773.3456 big recreation center [like] for- for- 775.8832 660 LES_int_01 774.7110 [Yeah.] 775.0579 661 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 776.0325 for all people. Not just 777.5180 662 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 777.5180 (pause 0.31) 777.8254 663 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 777.8254 the people living in projects. For whoever got- whoever gotta go to work, 781.0747 664 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 781.0747 (pause 0.52) 781.5928 665 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 781.5928 [and don't-] can't afford a 782.8396 666 LES_int_01 781.6454 [Yeah.] 781.9966 667 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 782.9362 a- you gotta fill out the form and all that, but whoever can't afford 785.5709 668 LES_int_01 785.6938 Yeah. 786.0099 669 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 786.2426 two hundred dollars a week a hundred and fifty dollars a week, 788.6002 670 LES_int_01 788.8241 Yeah. 789.1973 671 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 789.6626 if you paying one fifty a week, okay. Give me seventy-five dollars. 792.3884 672 LES_int_01 792.5509 Yeah. 792.8450 673 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 793.1348 Kay, okay, that's the best I can do for this family. 795.1142 674 LES_int_01 795.1845 Yeah. 795.5840 675 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 795.8123 We go through your paperwork. Everything going through the paperwork, and you paying two twenty-five, 799.7267 676 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 799.7267 (pause 0.42) 800.1482 677 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 800.1482 give me one. 800.7629 678 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 800.7629 (pause 0.22) 800.9824 679 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 800.9824 One fifteen. 801.7358 680 LES_int_01 801.8061 Right. 802.1880 681 LES_int_01 802.1880 (pause 0.15) 802.3417 682 LES_int_01 802.3417 Right. 802.7017 683 LES_int_01 802.7017 (pause 0.66) 803.3646 684 LES_int_01 803.3646 And what about housing? Do you think that there's also a need for housing in the neighborhood? 807.0920 685 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 807.4827 Um. It's always need for housing. 809.0050 686 LES_int_01 809.0050 Yeah. 809.3870 687 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 809.7821 Cause they came up with the Zillow 811.2748 688 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 811.2748 (pause 0.23) 811.5053 689 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 811.5053 Zero 812.1989 690 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 812.1989 (pause 0.14) 812.3350 691 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 812.3350 Tolerance 812.9541 692 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 812.9541 (pause 0.76) 813.7180 693 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 813.7180 like, 813.9814 694 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 813.9814 (pause 1.10) 815.0800 695 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 815.0800 you can get kicked out of housing for anything. 816.7747 696 LES_int_01 817.2878 [Mm-hm.] 817.8234 697 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 817.3888 [For anything.] 818.0561 698 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 818.5390 Right now, if I woulda got stopped, 819.7376 699 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 819.7376 (pause 0.14) 819.8781 700 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 819.8781 for a back of trees or anything, they woulda made that into oh, he killed five people, 823.9259 701 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 823.9259 (pause 0.28) 824.2025 702 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 824.2025 [and this, and this] and that, he must go. 825.9767 703 LES_int_01 824.2025 [] 825.1206 704 LES_int_01 826.0381 Right. 826.5562 705 LES_int_01 826.5562 (pause 0.93) 827.4869 706 LES_int_01 827.4869 Right. 827.7772 707 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 827.7772 That's cause this is prime ti- this is prime real estate right here. 830.8949 708 LES_int_01 831.0793 Yeah. 831.4876 709 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 831.5402 This property down on the Lower East Side, 833.1471 710 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 833.1471 (pause 0.49) 833.6328 711 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 833.6328 it's ridiculous. 834.6403 712 LES_int_01 834.6625 I know. 835.1470 713 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 835.7960 That's why, and they- 836.5641 714 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 836.5641 (pause 0.66) 837.2259 715 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 837.2259 they been knew. 837.9877 716 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 837.9877 (pause 0.81) 838.7985 717 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 838.7985 And that's what it is right now. They know how- they know what this is worth. 842.0205 718 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 842.0205 (pause 0.39) 842.4104 719 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 842.4104 They- they already changing a East River up to Battery Park City. They tryna make it look like Battery- give us sand. Now we getting sand across the street from the projects now. And. 850.1514 720 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 850.1514 (pause 0.84) 850.9874 721 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 850.9874 Meanwhile that was down at Battery Park City, /re/ since I was born. 853.9663 722 LES_int_01 854.0884 Yeah. 854.5729 723 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 854.6832 Now they tryna expand it 855.9436 724 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 855.9436 (pause 0.22) 856.1602 725 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 856.1602 more this way 857.0354 726 LES_int_01 857.0465 Right. 857.4679 727 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 857.5231 cause they know already. 858.4448 728 LES_int_01 858.7087 Yeah. 859.0744 729 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 859.0789 They know. 859.5437 730 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 859.5437 (pause 0.23) 859.7738 731 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 859.7738 Like damn, if we get rid of this /RD-NAME-1/ family 862.1883 732 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 862.1883 (pause 0.46) 862.6531 733 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 862.6531 and get another 863.5196 734 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 863.5196 (pause 0.28) 863.7954 735 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 863.7954 a working family in there, 865.1700 736 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 865.1700 (pause 0.28) 865.4497 737 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 865.4497 and they probably started paying whatever they paying now. They probably pay fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, two thousand dollars a month. 871.2527 738 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 871.2527 (pause 0.17) 871.4221 739 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 871.4221 [Easy.] 871.7963 740 LES_int_01 871.4851 [Yeah.] 871.8751 741 LES_int_01 872.2171 Yeah. 872.6307 742 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 873.3830 Now if it's two bedrooms, a bathroom, and a kitchen, and a li- No, if you f- forget about it. Thirty eight hundred, easy. 877.4991 743 LES_int_01 877.7748 878.0978 744 LES_int_01 878.0978 (pause 0.83) 878.9253 745 LES_int_01 878.9253 Seriously. 879.5319 746 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 879.6737 So that's what it is, [and] 881.0900 747 LES_int_01 880.7372 [Yeah.] 881.1468 748 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 881.2847 they know already, so they tryna get 882.6948 749 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 882.6948 (pause 0.49) 883.1872 750 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 883.1872 everybody out. 883.8213 751 LES_int_01 884.0901 Yeah. 884.5431 752 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 884.7321 And 884.9921 753 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 884.9921 (pause 0.38) 885.3742 754 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 885.3742 they tryna buy these, hut, they's trying to buy these something called hut, 888.0841 755 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 888.0841 (pause 0.87) 888.9518 756 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 888.9518 tryna buy these projects, I heard [um,] 890.8346 757 LES_int_01 890.7006 [I've] heard that. 891.4136 758 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 891.7090 also I heard, um, what's his name? 893.6390 759 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 893.6390 (pause 0.89) 894.5244 760 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 894.5244 Mr. New York, 895.3270 761 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 895.3270 (pause 0.14) 895.4688 762 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 895.4688 um. 895.8824 763 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 895.8824 (pause 4.27) 900.1493 764 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 900.1493 Donald Trump. 900.7519 765 LES_int_01 900.9922 Donald Trump. 901.5988 766 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 901.6500 He own- 902.2408 767 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 902.2408 (pause 0.28) 902.5244 768 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 902.5244 that's why I call him Mr. New York, [he own everything.] 904.6790 769 LES_int_01 903.8006 [] 905.0302 770 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 905.1094 He got a- he tryna put a finger in these projects and things like that cause [this is] prime sapce. 909.9188 771 LES_int_01 908.5402 [Yeah.] 908.9701 772 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 910.3875 So when you get a Donald Trump looking at a Lillian Wald Projects 913.8784 773 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 913.8784 (pause 0.47) 914.3511 774 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 914.3511 what's the outcome? 915.2098 775 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 915.2098 (pause 0.78) 915.9897 776 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 915.9897 Money. 916.4899 777 LES_int_01 916.7076 Yeah. 917.1252 778 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 917.3497 Money. 917.8460 779 LES_int_01 918.0319 Yeah. 918.3706 780 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 918.6621 Or you can stay there if you can afford it. 920.3361 781 LES_int_01 920.5252 Yeah. 920.9663 782 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 921.2657 If not, we gonna give you twenty thousand dollars and 923.4804 783 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 923.4804 (pause 0.33) 923.8073 784 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 923.8073 lot- honestly speaking 924.9575 785 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 924.9575 (pause 0.46) 925.4144 786 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 925.4144 you got people like sis- sister /RD-NAME-1/ and other- all the 928.4670 787 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 928.4670 (pause 0.29) 928.7606 788 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 928.7606 elderly ladies was looking at 930.2889 789 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 930.2889 (pause 0.45) 930.7339 790 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 930.7339 twenty thousand like it's a- it's a- it's a- it's w- it's money. 933.9678 791 LES_int_01 934.1450 Yeah, 934.5034 792 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 934.6019 [Sorry.] 935.0273 793 LES_int_01 934.6059 [Yeah.] 934.9912 794 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 935.5090 But it's really not. 936.4228 795 LES_int_01 936.5725 Yeah. 936.9230 796 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 937.1003 How far twenty thousand 938.2859 797 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 938.2859 (pause 0.17) 938.4513 798 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 938.4513 gonna take you? 939.0978 799 LES_int_01 939.2824 Right. 939.7196 800 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 940.4759 So it's like, they tricking- they tricking the elderly people, all that, by coming through with a 945.1367 801 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 945.1367 (pause 0.85) 945.9874 802 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 945.9874 I'm gonna give you all this money. This is twenty three thousand dollars. 948.9703 803 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 948.9703 (pause 0.42) 949.3878 804 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 949.3878 And we gonna help you find a place. [Meanwhile] the place they finding you is they 952.6177 805 LES_int_01 950.7152 [Yeah.] 951.2502 806 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 952.7555 uncles. 953.3908 807 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 953.3908 (pause 0.57) 953.9642 808 LES_se0_ag3_m_01 953.9642 And by the time they get they money over there, the rent and all that. It's a changed game. It's all about [who you know.] 958.7274 809 LES_int_01 958.0657 [Yeah.] 958.7038 810 LES_int_01 958.9835 Yeah. 959.5822