Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 PRV_int_01 0.7666 So 1.3282 2 PRV_int_01 1.3282 (pause 0.60) 1.9263 3 PRV_int_01 1.9263 like I said, it's nothing 3.3010 4 PRV_int_01 3.3010 (pause 0.23) 3.5309 5 PRV_int_01 3.5309 real formal at all. 4.6176 6 PRV_int_01 4.6176 (pause 0.18) 4.8022 7 PRV_int_01 4.8022 It's just another- 5.5690 8 PRV_int_01 5.5690 (pause 0.15) 5.7157 9 PRV_int_01 5.7157 It's 6.0282 10 PRV_int_01 6.0282 (pause 0.23) 6.2554 11 PRV_int_01 6.2554 recording a conversation 7.3866 12 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 7.6470 [Okay.] 8.0825 13 PRV_int_01 7.6470 [um-] 8.0872 14 PRV_int_01 8.8919 But you were born in Princeville? 9.9474 15 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 10.4993 Yes. 10.7833 16 PRV_int_01 10.8732 Oh okay. Cool. And 12.1276 17 PRV_int_01 12.1276 (pause 0.25) 12.3737 18 PRV_int_01 12.3737 uh, 12.7429 19 PRV_int_01 12.7429 (pause 0.21) 12.9512 20 PRV_int_01 12.9512 where did you stay in Princeville [growing up?] 14.8526 21 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 14.3665 [I stayed] on uh, Church Street [with my] grandmother. 16.9606 22 PRV_int_01 15.9880 [Oh.] 16.3099 23 PRV_int_01 16.3099 (pause 0.59) 16.8969 24 PRV_int_01 16.8969 Okay. 17.3513 25 PRV_int_01 18.1796 And your grandmother is? 19.4008 26 PRV_int_01 19.4008 (pause 0.40) 19.8032 27 PRV_int_01 19.8032 What was her name? 20.4753 28 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 21.0149 /RD-NAME-3/. 21.8859 29 PRV_int_01 21.8318 /RD-NAME-2/? Okay. 22.6223 30 PRV_int_01 23.7299 And you still stay in Princeville or? 25.5179 31 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 25.8363 No, after the flood in ninety nine, uh, 28.3809 32 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 28.3809 (pause 0.59) 28.9679 33 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 28.9679 Grandma didn't wanna go 30.1228 34 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 30.1228 (pause 0.24) 30.3595 35 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 30.3595 back to Princeville. Said she needed a change. She felt that 33.1096 36 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 33.1096 (pause 0.50) 33.6066 37 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 33.6066 by her being 34.2740 38 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 34.2740 (pause 0.76) 35.0389 39 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 35.0389 that old that she didn't want to start over again in the same place [where she] was raised, [so we] moved 39.7534 40 PRV_int_01 38.0635 [Yeah.] 38.3854 41 PRV_int_01 38.3854 (pause 0.72) 39.1049 42 PRV_int_01 39.1049 [Yeah.] 39.4599 43 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 40.0212 to Rocky Mount, which is about fifteen miles away. 42.5299 44 PRV_int_01 42.6530 Okay. 43.0742 45 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 43.0222 The neighborhood over there around the corner from my uncle's house. 45.6208 46 PRV_int_01 45.6398 Okay. 45.9853 47 PRV_int_01 45.9853 (pause 0.78) 46.7691 48 PRV_int_01 46.7691 Uh, 47.0531 49 PRV_int_01 47.0531 (pause 0.15) 47.2045 50 PRV_int_01 47.2045 /inaudible/. 49.6612 51 PRV_int_01 49.6612 (pause 1.15) 50.8114 52 PRV_int_01 50.8114 Uh, 51.2043 53 PRV_int_01 51.2043 (pause 1.17) 52.3762 54 PRV_int_01 52.3762 okay. So you- she moved to Rocky Mount after the flood, 55.4387 55 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 55.3677 Mm-hm. 55.7369 56 PRV_int_01 55.7038 and you stayed with her your whole life? 57.5788 57 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 57.6114 Yes. 57.9948 58 PRV_int_01 57.9427 Okay. Okay. 58.8527 59 PRV_int_01 59.4507 Um, 59.8672 60 PRV_int_01 59.8672 (pause 0.39) 60.2554 61 PRV_int_01 60.2554 and you went to school in Princeville? 62.2907 62 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 62.2907 Mm-hm. 62.7925 63 PRV_int_01 63.7561 All of your friends are from Princeville? 65.5745 64 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 65.5027 Most of 'em, [yes.] 66.4400 65 PRV_int_01 66.0897 [] 66.7571 66 PRV_int_01 66.9512 What- uh, what was life 67.9547 67 PRV_int_01 67.9547 (pause 0.25) 68.2055 68 PRV_int_01 68.2055 like growing up in Princeville? 69.6208 69 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 69.9833 Princeville was basically like, 71.9524 70 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 71.9524 (pause 1.34) 73.2967 71 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 73.2967 your last name 74.3286 72 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 74.3286 (pause 0.17) 74.4943 73 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 74.4943 didn't matter because everybody 76.6507 74 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 76.6507 (pause 0.21) 76.8637 75 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 76.8637 was family. Like if 78.0518 76 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 78.0518 (pause 0.27) 78.3169 77 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 78.3169 you did something in the streets and somebody else's family saw it, 81.8433 78 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 81.8433 (pause 0.31) 82.1490 79 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 82.1490 it's like they had permission 83.6305 80 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 83.6305 (pause 0.33) 83.9571 81 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 83.9571 to punish you, [and then] you would get punished again 86.4517 82 PRV_int_01 84.7950 [Yeah.] 85.1452 83 PRV_int_01 86.5700 [] 86.9913 84 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 86.8256 [when you] got home. So it's basically like everybody knew each other. 89.5217 85 PRV_int_01 89.5785 Uh-huh. 89.9856 86 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 89.9051 If- 90.1796 87 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 90.5583 if we ate anything, they ate, so it's like basically we did everything 93.8480 88 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 93.8480 (pause 0.13) 93.9758 89 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 93.9758 [together.] 94.4663 90 PRV_int_01 93.9853 [Mm-hm.] 94.2599 91 PRV_int_01 94.6318 [Mkay.] 95.0957 92 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 94.7501 [And] nothing was separated. 96.2648 93 PRV_int_01 96.3169 Mkay. 96.6956 94 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 96.9985 And it's a whole lot different now because 98.6694 95 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 98.6694 (pause 0.18) 98.8540 96 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 98.8540 you don't see 99.6256 97 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 99.6256 (pause 0.99) 100.6176 98 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 100.6176 those people anymore. Everybody 102.4163 99 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 102.4163 (pause 0.35) 102.7618 100 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 102.7618 moved away. It's a lot of people came back, but it's twice as many that 106.3782 101 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 106.3782 (pause 0.17) 106.5513 102 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 106.5513 didn't come back and [didn't wanna] come back. 108.4845 103 PRV_int_01 107.4081 [Yeah.] 107.6873 104 PRV_int_01 107.6873 (pause 0.79) 108.4731 105 PRV_int_01 108.4731 Okay. 108.8852 106 PRV_int_01 109.9547 Where did they go? 110.7688 107 PRV_int_01 110.7688 (pause 0.25) 111.0197 108 PRV_int_01 111.0197 /inaudible/ 111.3558 109 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 111.6520 Um, 112.1916 110 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 112.1916 (pause 0.61) 112.7975 111 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 112.7975 most people 113.6968 112 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 113.6968 (pause 0.25) 113.9477 113 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 113.9477 just came across the bridge to 115.4340 114 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 115.4340 (pause 0.46) 115.8979 115 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 115.8979 Tarboro. A lot of 'em moved to Rocky Mount and 118.7217 116 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 118.7217 (pause 0.70) 119.4175 117 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 119.4175 Greenville, Raleigh, 120.7997 118 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 120.7997 (pause 0.25) 121.0506 119 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 121.0506 Greensboro. 121.7701 120 PRV_int_01 121.8742 Okay. 122.2576 121 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 122.1913 Just moved anywhere but there because they didn't- 124.7342 122 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 125.2377 I mean after the flood and everything, 126.8376 123 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 126.8376 (pause 0.39) 127.2304 124 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 127.2304 it- it still doesn't feel the same. My mother moved back it doesn't feel the same. Cause you don't see those same people anymore. 132.9370 125 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 132.9370 (pause 0.45) 133.3914 126 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 133.3914 It's a whole bunch of new people. 134.7860 127 PRV_int_01 134.9487 Really? 135.3652 128 PRV_int_01 135.3652 (pause 0.89) 136.2578 129 PRV_int_01 136.2578 It's m- your mother's- And what was her name? 138.5914 130 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 138.6104 /RD-NAME-2/. 139.1216 131 PRV_int_01 139.2399 /RD-NAME-2/, [okay.] 139.9215 132 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 139.6281 [Mm-hm.] 139.9357 133 PRV_int_01 140.1345 Is she- 140.5700 134 PRV_int_01 140.5700 (pause 0.31) 140.8824 135 PRV_int_01 140.8824 she decided to move back right away or? 142.5000 136 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 143.0578 She- 143.5927 137 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 143.5927 (pause 1.41) 145.0032 138 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 145.0032 Yeah, she did. She was really pressed that- And was just like, can we just please move somewhere else? And 149.4459 139 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 149.4459 (pause 0.24) 149.6873 140 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 149.6873 the land that she has my 151.3204 141 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 151.3204 (pause 0.26) 151.5760 142 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 151.5760 grandfather 152.2339 143 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 152.2339 (pause 0.44) 152.6789 144 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 152.6789 willed to her, and so she wasn't gonna give her land up that easily. She didn't care what kind of land they called it or 157.8127 145 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 157.8127 (pause 0.30) 158.1109 146 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 158.1109 what people thought of Princeville. That was her home and that she wanted to go back, [so] 162.0092 147 PRV_int_01 161.6305 [Mm.] 161.9571 148 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 162.3500 she did. 162.8612 149 PRV_int_01 163.1452 Mkay. 163.5523 150 PRV_int_01 163.5523 (pause 0.29) 163.8411 151 PRV_int_01 163.8411 Mkay. 164.2245 152 PRV_int_01 164.2245 (pause 0.68) 164.9013 153 PRV_int_01 164.9013 Um, 165.3226 154 PRV_int_01 165.3226 (pause 0.32) 165.6425 155 PRV_int_01 165.6425 who- your grandfather- 166.7075 156 PRV_int_01 166.7075 (pause 0.22) 166.9253 157 PRV_int_01 166.9253 do you know who your grandfather is? 168.0755 158 PRV_int_01 168.0755 (pause 0.15) 168.2222 159 PRV_int_01 168.2222 /?/ 168.6056 160 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 168.7571 /RD-NAME-3/? 169.3156 161 PRV_int_01 169.5050 Oh, /RD-NAME-3/. [Okay.] 170.8256 162 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 170.3759 [Mm-hm.] 170.6457 163 PRV_int_01 171.3652 Now the /RD-NAME-1/ family, I've heard some things 173.4046 164 PRV_int_01 173.4046 (pause 0.74) 174.1465 165 PRV_int_01 174.1465 about them. Do you know anything about your grandfather? 176.4943 166 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 176.6363 I know a lot about my grandfather, but I 178.7833 167 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 178.7833 (pause 0.42) 179.1998 168 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 179.1998 do not know 180.0234 169 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 180.0234 (pause 0.57) 180.5914 170 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 180.5914 a lot about his family. There- they are a lot of /RD-NAME-1/ [and I'm] not sure if we are related. 185.9145 171 PRV_int_01 183.4883 [Mm-hm.] 183.9285 172 PRV_int_01 186.0660 [Okay.] 186.4826 173 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 186.1749 [I know] some of his family, but. 187.9405 174 PRV_int_01 188.6410 Yeah. 188.9487 175 PRV_int_01 188.9487 (pause 0.45) 189.4031 176 PRV_int_01 189.4031 Okay. 189.8744 177 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 190.1016 So yeah, this may not be the same /RD-NAME-1/. 192.2175 178 PRV_int_01 192.2175 Okay. 192.6814 179 PRV_int_01 192.6814 (pause 0.50) 193.1831 180 PRV_int_01 193.1831 You know, I'm tryna kind of piece together like, 195.0019 181 PRV_int_01 195.0019 (pause 0.18) 195.1854 182 PRV_int_01 195.1854 the different families /and the trees in ??/. 197.7583 183 PRV_int_01 197.7583 (pause 0.57) 198.3311 184 PRV_int_01 198.3311 So th- so it was important for your mother to move back from Rocky Mount. 201.2706 185 PRV_int_01 201.2706 (pause 0.22) 201.4863 186 PRV_int_01 201.4863 /??/ 201.7940 187 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 201.7372 It was like she was almost hysterical. Anytime we said anything about not going back, it was like getting your head chopped off. 207.8478 188 PRV_int_01 207.8291 Mm. 208.1510 189 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 208.1253 She was like, you don't wanna do what? 209.5264 190 PRV_int_01 209.8672 210.3476 191 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 210.2648 But she was- she was pressed on 211.9689 192 PRV_int_01 212.0399 Yeah. 212.4564 193 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 212.6599 getting back. 213.2043 194 PRV_int_01 213.3274 Yeah. 213.7060 195 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 213.6804 And she did all she could. I mean we didn't have 216.5015 196 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 217.5807 our hand in the cookie jar or anything [about] that house. And neither did my father because she just 222.3406 197 PRV_int_01 219.6378 [Mm-hm.] 220.0780 198 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 223.1642 hustled basically. Did- she did everything as far as the furnishings and 227.3181 199 PRV_int_01 227.2945 Yeah. 227.6873 200 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 227.9666 um, 228.5299 201 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 228.5299 (pause 0.18) 228.7050 202 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 228.7050 picking out 229.2399 203 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 229.2399 (pause 0.22) 229.4624 204 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 229.4624 what house she wanted and 230.9392 205 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 230.9392 (pause 0.36) 231.2990 206 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 231.2990 we had 232.0989 207 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 232.0989 (pause 0.28) 232.3762 208 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 232.3762 [nothing to] do with that. She didn't want us to have anything to do with it. It's like, this is- 235.7464 209 PRV_int_01 232.4377 [Hm.] 232.7643 210 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 235.9405 I want my house- 236.9865 211 PRV_int_01 237.1617 Yeah. 237.3794 212 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 237.3416 my new house to be as close as possible to my last house so I will feel comfortable in it. 241.5444 213 PRV_int_01 242.1109 Yeah. 242.4943 214 PRV_int_01 242.4943 (pause 0.29) 242.7830 215 PRV_int_01 242.7830 Okay. 243.2753 216 PRV_int_01 243.2753 (pause 0.37) 243.6445 217 PRV_int_01 243.6445 So sh- so she tried to pretty much replicate the original house. 247.0553 218 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 247.7985 And she did. To a T. [] 250.7785 219 PRV_int_01 248.9818 [] 250.1888 220 PRV_int_01 250.8022 So today it looks like stepping in the same [house.] 253.0790 221 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 252.8707 [If] it took her ordering 254.5889 222 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 255.5167 something from Timbuktu to get it to look like the last house, she did it. 259.2446 223 PRV_int_01 260.5558 Right. 260.9534 224 PRV_int_01 260.9534 (pause 0.24) 261.1901 225 PRV_int_01 261.1901 /Okay/. 261.5877 226 PRV_int_01 261.5877 (pause 0.25) 261.8413 227 PRV_int_01 261.8413 So 262.2058 228 PRV_int_01 262.2058 (pause 0.54) 262.7501 229 PRV_int_01 262.7501 so you have um, 263.7441 230 PRV_int_01 263.7441 (pause 1.63) 265.3772 231 PRV_int_01 265.3772 family there. 266.2765 232 PRV_int_01 266.2765 (pause 0.80) 267.0717 233 PRV_int_01 267.0717 Your- your mother, 268.0090 234 PRV_int_01 268.0090 (pause 0.44) 268.4519 235 PRV_int_01 268.4519 um, and do you have like aunts and uncles? 270.3690 236 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 270.2554 Just one more 271.3251 237 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 271.5429 aunt, 271.9925 238 PRV_int_01 272.0777 Okay. 272.4706 239 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 272.9061 just one more aunt that's there. And I have a few cousins 275.4128 240 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 275.4128 (pause 0.48) 275.8956 241 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 275.8956 that went back. But as far 276.9654 242 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 276.9654 (pause 0.65) 277.6139 243 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 277.6139 as the maternal family, it's just my mother and my aunt. 280.0374 244 PRV_int_01 280.0874 Okay. 280.4993 245 PRV_int_01 280.4993 (pause 1.33) 281.8293 246 PRV_int_01 281.8293 And then uh, 282.7760 247 PRV_int_01 282.7760 (pause 0.91) 283.6849 248 PRV_int_01 283.6849 cause you were talking about growing up there, so you went to 286.0658 249 PRV_int_01 286.0658 (pause 0.23) 286.3004 250 PRV_int_01 286.3004 the- 286.6271 251 PRV_int_01 286.6271 (pause 0.32) 286.9489 252 PRV_int_01 286.9489 the elementary school? 288.0708 253 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 288.0992 Mm-hm, which is totally different now. 290.1014 254 PRV_int_01 290.1298 Yeah? 290.4138 255 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 290.3286 But, yeah. 290.9771 256 PRV_int_01 291.1238 What was it like back then? 292.0874 257 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 293.7489 It was- 294.3784 258 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 294.3784 (pause 0.82) 295.1973 259 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 295.1973 You didn't see too many white kids. I didn't meet 297.6682 260 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 297.6682 (pause 1.07) 298.7407 261 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 298.7407 my first white person until I was in the third grade 301.9499 262 PRV_int_01 301.9783 [Really?] 302.2434 263 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 302.1203 [because] from kindergarten to second, I went to Princeville. It was like, 305.6873 264 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 307.5760 you saw white teachers, 308.6931 265 PRV_int_01 308.7688 Yeah. 308.9960 266 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 308.9108 but no white students. 310.3742 267 PRV_int_01 310.2531 Yeah. 310.4661 268 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 310.7265 And I- 311.1051 269 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 311.1051 (pause 0.50) 311.6021 270 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 311.6021 the first white student was third grade when I went to this school called /RD-NAME-2/. 315.2942 271 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 315.2942 (pause 0.14) 315.4315 272 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 315.4315 [/RD-NAME-2/] [Elementary] and that's when 317.2992 273 PRV_int_01 315.4674 [Oh.] 315.7514 274 PRV_int_01 315.7514 (pause 0.57) 316.3194 275 PRV_int_01 316.3194 [Uh-huh.] 316.6129 276 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 318.0424 um, the kids from Princeville 320.0020 277 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 320.0020 (pause 0.42) 320.4185 278 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 320.4185 and the kids from Stocks 321.9096 279 PRV_int_01 321.9616 Mm-hm. 322.3214 280 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 322.3241 Elementary School- 323.2992 281 PRV_int_01 323.2897 Mm-hm. 323.6069 282 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 323.6542 that school only had the third grade. [So it's just] basically taking these two schools and mixing them together. 328.3829 283 PRV_int_01 325.5002 [Oh.] 325.8269 284 PRV_int_01 328.3904 Okay. 328.7880 285 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 328.7785 And it's just like two schools meeting each other for the first time, [so.] 331.8505 286 PRV_int_01 331.5760 [And] one was all black and was all white? 333.8878 287 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 333.9218 One was mostly white. That- Stocks had a few [blacks] 336.8944 288 PRV_int_01 336.6246 [Okay.] 337.1121 289 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 337.1547 because of East Tarboro 338.4895 290 PRV_int_01 338.5085 [Okay.] 338.9534 291 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 338.7167 [and] East Tarboro students went there and then all the Princeville 341.2187 292 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 341.3891 [students] uh, went to Princeville. 343.4576 293 PRV_int_01 341.4175 [Yeah.] 341.8009 294 PRV_int_01 343.7180 Okay. 344.1440 295 PRV_int_01 344.1440 (pause 1.21) 345.3558 296 PRV_int_01 345.3558 So but up until then, 346.4950 297 PRV_int_01 346.4950 (pause 0.89) 347.3891 298 PRV_int_01 347.3891 you live in Princeville, and 348.5423 299 PRV_int_01 348.5423 (pause 0.14) 348.6861 300 PRV_int_01 348.6861 never seen a white person. 349.8695 301 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 350.1156 I mean I see- you would see them, [but I- just like], I never 352.9063 302 PRV_int_01 351.6836 [/Yeah, you ne-/] 352.2715 303 PRV_int_01 352.9205 [/Unintelligible/] 353.7394 304 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 353.3655 [had 'em] in my [class. It was like,] 354.9322 305 PRV_int_01 354.2145 [Yeah.] 354.7577 306 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 356.0493 a classroom with two teachers. 357.6161 307 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 357.6161 (pause 0.18) 357.7987 308 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 357.7987 The teachers, 358.6034 309 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 358.6034 (pause 0.83) 359.4317 310 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 359.4317 most of 'em was like they had a black and a white teacher and then it's like, thirty black students. 363.3179 311 PRV_int_01 363.2185 Mm. 363.5167 312 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 363.4362 So that's all I was used to seeing [was black] kids so when I saw this white kid, I'm like, well what is he? 368.3144 313 PRV_int_01 364.8921 [Yeah.] 365.2093 314 PRV_int_01 368.4375 369.1475 315 PRV_int_01 369.1475 (pause 0.34) 369.4836 316 PRV_int_01 369.4836 What was that like from going to that new school? 371.5643 317 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 371.5453 It was strange, and then I remember seeing movies 374.5700 318 PRV_int_01 375.2591 [/Really./] 375.6567 319 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 375.2658 [about the] segregation and all that stuff was just running through my head. But it- it was nothing like that. Ac- my best friend for 381.3037 320 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 381.6587 the longest time was a white kid. 383.2093 321 PRV_int_01 383.1714 Oh okay. 383.8530 322 PRV_int_01 384.2885 Growing up in a school [like that.] 385.7606 323 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 385.1973 [Mm-hm.] 385.5713 324 PRV_int_01 386.1913 So there wasn't- 386.9013 325 PRV_int_01 386.9013 (pause 0.34) 387.2374 326 PRV_int_01 387.2374 so you got- so the transition when- [when you got] to school was /??/ 390.9938 327 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 389.6116 [Mm-hm.] 389.9098 328 PRV_int_01 391.6091 /inaudible/ 392.3901 329 PRV_int_01 392.3901 (pause 0.22) 392.6079 330 PRV_int_01 392.6079 And then uh, 393.3558 331 PRV_int_01 393.3558 (pause 1.12) 394.4756 332 PRV_int_01 394.4756 wait- you- when- so you go over the school there, and then 397.4624 333 PRV_int_01 397.4624 (pause 0.34) 397.7985 334 PRV_int_01 397.7985 uh, 398.2765 335 PRV_int_01 398.2765 (pause 0.33) 398.6079 336 PRV_int_01 398.6079 after that 399.2990 337 PRV_int_01 399.2990 (pause 0.14) 399.4410 338 PRV_int_01 399.4410 third grade is where you- where'd you go to school. 401.2471 339 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 401.2519 It was /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 402.1891 340 PRV_int_01 402.4778 Mkay. 402.9086 341 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 403.7653 And 404.0020 342 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 404.0020 (pause 0.26) 404.2576 343 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 404.2576 that was fourth 405.9806 344 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 405.9806 (pause 0.24) 406.2200 345 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 406.2200 and fifth. 407.1477 346 PRV_int_01 407.0436 What was that? 407.6589 347 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 407.6021 Fourth and fifth grade before we went to middle school. 409.7133 348 PRV_int_01 409.8079 Okay. 410.3086 349 PRV_int_01 410.3086 (pause 0.31) 410.6173 350 PRV_int_01 410.6173 And middle school is 412.0827 351 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 412.5229 /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 413.1745 352 PRV_int_01 413.1572 /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 413.5311 353 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 413.7015 Mm-hm. 414.0237 354 PRV_int_01 414.3974 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ Middle School, /??/. 415.9073 355 PRV_int_01 415.9073 (pause 0.33) 416.2339 356 PRV_int_01 416.2339 And then, from there you went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/? 418.3072 357 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 418.0780 Mm-hm. 418.4567 358 PRV_int_01 418.4425 Okay. 418.8894 359 PRV_int_01 419.4270 And then what year are you? Are you- did you go 421.6517 360 PRV_int_01 421.6517 (pause 0.27) 421.9215 361 PRV_int_01 421.9215 to a 422.3239 362 PRV_int_01 422.3239 (pause 0.09) 422.4185 363 PRV_int_01 422.4185 /RD-NAME-3/ and you were in the same grade or? 424.3545 364 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 424.4235 No, [actually that's the only-] that's the only time that we were ever 428.6126 365 PRV_int_01 425.3513 [/inaudible/] 426.6104 366 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 428.8114 in school together because when she got 430.6318 367 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 430.6318 (pause 0.24) 430.8685 368 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 430.8685 there- when she was a [freshman, I was a] senior. 432.6435 369 PRV_int_01 431.5737 [/inaudible/] 432.1749 370 PRV_int_01 432.1749 (pause 0.37) 432.5441 371 PRV_int_01 432.5441 Okay. Okay. 433.4434 372 PRV_int_01 433.9073 And then where- did you- are you done with school or did you go to [college?] 437.7015 373 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 437.1667 [I went to] college at um, 438.9370 374 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 439.2541 North Carolina A and T 440.4469 375 PRV_int_01 440.4233 [Okay.] 440.8493 376 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 440.6315 [in] Greensboro. 441.5025 377 PRV_int_01 441.4457 Okay. 441.8054 378 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 442.0448 I got homesick, 442.9489 379 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 442.9489 (pause 0.20) 443.1525 380 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 443.1525 missed my grandmother and my mother so 444.9417 381 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 444.9417 (pause 0.13) 445.0695 382 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 445.0695 I came back home 446.0872 383 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 446.0872 (pause 0.16) 446.2481 384 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 446.2481 [and did] the lazy thing for awhile. 448.0184 385 PRV_int_01 446.2576 [Uh-huh.] 446.5511 386 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 448.2200 And then I went to 449.0531 387 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 449.0531 (pause 0.62) 449.6684 388 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 449.6684 ECU 450.4400 389 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 450.4400 (pause 0.25) 450.6861 390 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 450.6861 and I got bored with that. 451.9831 391 PRV_int_01 452.0635 [Uh-huh.] 452.4280 392 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 452.2529 [It] 452.5321 393 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 452.7830 takes a lot 453.5025 394 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 453.5025 (pause 0.28) 453.7818 395 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 453.7818 to please me, [and that school] didn't please me. So now I have applied to the Art Institute in Charlotte. 458.4138 396 PRV_int_01 454.6034 [] 455.0862 397 PRV_int_01 458.4943 Okay. 458.8067 398 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 459.2564 And just waiting to hear from them so I can go on and 461.6163 399 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 461.6163 (pause 0.50) 462.1181 400 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 462.1181 finish 462.6340 401 PRV_int_01 462.8518 Oh, okay. 463.3961 402 PRV_int_01 463.3961 (pause 0.12) 463.5144 403 PRV_int_01 463.5144 [/?/] 463.9215 404 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 463.5334 [and leave] North Carolina. 464.6978 405 PRV_int_01 464.8682 465.9833 406 PRV_int_01 465.9833 (pause 0.36) 466.3478 407 PRV_int_01 466.3478 You were doing art at the other schools or? 468.6577 408 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 468.7334 Yes. 469.0648 409 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 469.0648 (pause 0.39) 469.4576 410 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 469.4576 Fashion Design. 470.1180 411 PRV_int_01 470.1156 Fashion Design? 470.7759 412 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 470.6221 Mm-hm. 470.9534 413 PRV_int_01 470.9203 That's cool. 471.3794 414 PRV_int_01 471.8792 When did you get into that? 472.9253 415 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 473.7867 I've been drawing 474.7855 416 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 474.7855 (pause 0.38) 475.1689 417 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 475.1689 basically all my life, but 476.6599 418 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 476.6599 (pause 0.31) 476.9676 419 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 476.9676 when I went off to A and T is when I started majoring in it. 479.9382 420 PRV_int_01 480.0613 Mm-hm. 480.4589 421 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 480.5962 They had a good program in it, but 482.0446 422 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 482.0446 (pause 0.80) 482.8445 423 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 482.8445 I thought at that point two and a half hours was 485.1809 424 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 485.1809 (pause 0.19) 485.3749 425 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 485.3749 too far away from home. 486.5772 426 PRV_int_01 486.5962 Mm. 487.0127 427 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 487.5050 I had the chance to go to 489.1901 428 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 489.1901 (pause 0.44) 489.6330 429 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 489.6330 The North Carolina School of Science and Math, and I think that would have- 492.7334 430 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 492.7334 (pause 0.25) 492.9796 431 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 492.9796 If I had gone, that would have prepared me 494.9297 432 PRV_int_01 495.2232 Mm. 495.5877 433 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 495.8271 um, 496.3904 434 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 496.3904 (pause 0.22) 496.6081 435 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 496.6081 for being on my own, 497.6779 436 PRV_int_01 497.7725 [Mm.] 498.1228 437 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 497.8909 [but I] wasn't used to being on my own 499.5665 438 PRV_int_01 499.5760 Yeah. 499.9121 439 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 499.8505 and 500.2576 440 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 500.5605 that kind of freaked me out. [So I wasn't] ready 502.6697 441 PRV_int_01 501.7279 [Yeah.] 502.2389 442 PRV_int_01 502.8069 Scared. 503.3087 443 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 503.2613 when I left, and I was home every single weekend [for two and] a half years. 507.0082 444 PRV_int_01 505.6186 [] 506.0493 445 PRV_int_01 506.0493 (pause 0.94) 506.9914 446 PRV_int_01 506.9914 Yeah. 507.3440 447 PRV_int_01 508.2673 So there's- there's another transition 510.2459 448 PRV_int_01 510.2459 (pause 0.36) 510.6056 449 PRV_int_01 510.6056 of 510.8944 450 PRV_int_01 510.8944 (pause 0.67) 511.5618 451 PRV_int_01 511.5618 actually moving out of [Princeville.] 513.5340 452 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 512.7641 [Mm-hm.] 513.1806 453 PRV_int_01 514.0212 And that's rough I'm hearing from some [people that's a big] transition. 517.6139 454 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 515.9714 [Yeah.] 516.6624 455 PRV_int_01 517.9831 What's- what's so hard about that? Is that 519.8717 456 PRV_int_01 519.8717 (pause 0.27) 520.1395 457 PRV_int_01 520.1395 there's something about Princeville that's- 521.6826 458 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 521.5974 That's nothing 522.5204 459 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 522.8849 there, but I guess it's just like, 524.6978 460 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 524.6978 (pause 0.53) 525.2327 461 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 525.2327 the same way anybody else feels about home, 527.6374 462 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 527.6374 (pause 0.13) 527.7631 463 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 527.7631 no matter what's there or what goes on there 530.3381 464 PRV_int_01 530.3665 [Mm-hm.] 530.7120 465 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 530.5227 [when] you can't run away from it, it's still gonna be your home. 533.0199 466 PRV_int_01 533.0010 Yeah. 533.3465 467 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 534.0329 And it was only- 534.7476 468 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 534.7476 (pause 0.91) 535.6612 469 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 535.6612 Princeville to me now 536.9771 470 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 536.9771 (pause 0.98) 537.9522 471 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 537.9522 is- is not the same Princeville because you see all these people that you don't know doing things that you really don't approve of, and you're like, I can't believe this is the place 546.3027 472 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 546.3027 (pause 0.98) 547.2872 473 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 547.2872 that I grew 547.9215 474 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 547.9215 (pause 0.85) 548.7735 475 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 548.7735 up in. And the- the street that I grew up on was basically like, 552.0376 476 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 552.0376 (pause 1.13) 553.1689 477 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 553.1689 middle class. 554.2150 478 PRV_int_01 554.0067 Mm-hm. 554.5369 479 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 554.5747 And now, if you go down that street, a lot of those people are gone and you see a lot of 558.6956 480 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 558.6956 (pause 0.49) 559.1831 481 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 559.1831 drug addicts [and] prostitutes and just a whole bunch of carrying on that you didn't see 564.1228 482 PRV_int_01 560.1393 [Mm-hm.] 560.5795 483 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 564.3500 [before] the flood. 565.6186 484 PRV_int_01 564.3642 [Wow.] 564.6719 485 PRV_int_01 565.6281 Hm. 565.8600 486 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 566.2103 Especially on that street. You just didn't see that- 568.4235 487 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 568.4235 (pause 0.18) 568.6081 488 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 568.6081 that 568.8590 489 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 568.8590 (pause 0.26) 569.1193 490 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 569.1193 type of carrying on on that street. 570.7429 491 PRV_int_01 570.5867 Hm. 570.9038 492 PRV_int_01 571.4008 What do you think that's about? What- that transition? 574.0117 493 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 575.3986 I 575.5643 494 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 575.5643 (pause 0.22) 575.7867 495 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 575.7867 think 576.1702 496 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 576.1702 (pause 0.25) 576.4163 497 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 576.4163 that with- 577.2683 498 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 577.2683 (pause 0.28) 577.5476 499 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 577.5476 with the flood it really messed a lot of people up, not giving them an excuse to be on drugs because it was 582.6056 500 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 582.6056 (pause 0.22) 582.8281 501 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 582.8281 probably there, [and I just] didn't see it. [But now] it's just like th- everybody's open with it. 587.3560 502 PRV_int_01 583.7606 [Mm.] 584.0351 503 PRV_int_01 584.0351 (pause 0.72) 584.7546 504 PRV_int_01 584.7546 [Mm-hm.] 585.1664 505 PRV_int_01 587.6495 Mm. 587.9571 506 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 588.4731 Just going through Princeville now you gonna- 590.4564 507 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 590.4564 (pause 0.24) 590.6978 508 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 590.6978 Nine times out of ten, you gonna see more drug addicts than you do just regular people 594.5937 509 PRV_int_01 594.6530 [Hm.] 595.0174 510 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 594.7113 [I mean] cause they just roam the street. 596.4058 511 PRV_int_01 596.5889 Hm. 596.9487 512 PRV_int_01 596.9487 (pause 1.02) 597.9664 513 PRV_int_01 597.9664 And- and you say that's from- partly from the flood? 600.7334 514 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 601.3961 A lot of people- it- it really messed a lot of people up. 603.9332 515 PRV_int_01 604.0448 Yeah. 604.3904 516 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 604.3714 It really did. 605.1335 517 PRV_int_01 605.2045 Mm. 605.5406 518 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 605.6779 And it's just like, people know- 607.2920 519 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 607.2920 (pause 2.22) 609.5120 520 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 609.5120 It's just so many drugs going through that area. It's 611.9573 521 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 611.9573 (pause 0.17) 612.1228 522 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 612.1228 people coming from- 613.2352 523 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 613.2352 (pause 0.15) 613.3866 524 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 613.3866 seems like they're migrating from north, just to come here. You see all these new people, and it's like, 617.9051 525 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 617.9051 (pause 0.24) 618.1465 526 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 618.1465 you get to talk to 'em and like where are you from? I'm from New York or 621.1475 527 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 621.1475 (pause 0.44) 621.5877 528 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 621.5877 New Jersey and I'm 622.6413 529 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 622.6413 (pause 0.19) 622.8353 530 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 622.8353 just tryna figure out well why are they here? Why did they come here? 625.7559 531 PRV_int_01 625.7464 Yeah. 626.1440 532 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 626.6694 It's strange. 627.4173 533 PRV_int_01 627.3842 Yeah. 627.7486 534 PRV_int_01 628.6744 Yeah th- that's what uh, some other people were saying that 630.9464 535 PRV_int_01 630.9464 (pause 0.59) 631.5381 536 PRV_int_01 631.5381 I guess 632.1393 537 PRV_int_01 632.1393 (pause 0.28) 632.4185 538 PRV_int_01 632.4185 having new homes and- 633.6932 539 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 633.7060 Mm-hm. 633.9995 540 PRV_int_01 634.0022 kind of opportunities, and 635.1154 541 PRV_int_01 635.1154 (pause 0.53) 635.6447 542 PRV_int_01 635.6447 kind of maybe like, 636.4258 543 PRV_int_01 636.4258 (pause 0.40) 636.8234 544 PRV_int_01 636.8234 more affordable homes [/or something/.] 638.3144 545 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 637.8079 [Mm-hm.] 638.2150 546 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 638.4422 Mm-hm. 638.7925 547 PRV_int_01 638.8351 You get a lot [/inaudible/.] 640.1084 548 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 639.4173 [The cost of living is lower, but [still.] 641.4980 549 PRV_int_01 641.0010 [Yeah.] 641.3749 550 PRV_int_01 642.0897 So lot of outside people came [in.] 643.8695 551 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 643.5997 [A lot] of outside people. 645.0812 552 PRV_int_01 644.8919 Yeah. 645.2232 553 PRV_int_01 645.9786 Everyone says that. I- I wondered- 647.7469 554 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 647.6258 If you- if you would go through Princeville right now and just 650.1582 555 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 650.4043 pick a random person just walking [in the street] and like, did you grow up here? 653.9335 556 PRV_int_01 652.1726 [Mm-hm.] 652.4644 557 PRV_int_01 654.0140 Mm-hm. 654.3926 558 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 654.3879 You're gonna get the answer no. 655.7464 559 PRV_int_01 655.9594 Really? 656.3286 560 PRV_int_01 656.3286 (pause 0.67) 656.9960 561 PRV_int_01 656.9960 [/Inaudible/] 657.6918 562 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 657.1475 [Cause it's not] that many people left. 658.7975 563 PRV_int_01 659.0909 Where did they all go? Just- just over to Tarboro or just [out?] 662.2167 564 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 661.9973 [Tarboro], Greenville, Greensboro, Raleigh, 664.5000 565 PRV_int_01 664.7123 Yeah. 665.0436 566 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 665.0815 Rocky Mount. 665.7489 567 PRV_int_01 666.0234 /?/ 666.2932 568 PRV_int_01 666.2932 (pause 0.59) 666.8849 569 PRV_int_01 666.8849 What do you think about that? Like, 668.3854 570 PRV_int_01 668.3854 (pause 0.49) 668.8777 571 PRV_int_01 668.8777 how it's kind of been- 669.9569 572 PRV_int_01 669.9569 (pause 0.74) 670.6933 573 PRV_int_01 670.6933 I mean it's such a historical place, right? 672.6624 574 PRV_int_01 672.6624 (pause 0.23) 672.8896 575 PRV_int_01 672.8896 And then it just kind of scattered. 674.7830 576 PRV_int_01 674.7830 (pause 0.36) 675.1475 577 PRV_int_01 675.1475 I mean, what do you think happened? 676.5000 578 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 676.5561 I'm gonna be 677.1856 579 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 677.1856 (pause 0.29) 677.4791 580 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 677.4791 brutally honest. 678.5110 581 PRV_int_01 678.4920 That's what I love. 679.1831 582 PRV_int_01 679.3582 679.7322 583 PRV_int_01 679.7322 (pause 0.38) 680.1156 584 PRV_int_01 680.1156 [] 680.4848 585 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 680.1251 [We] have 681.3842 586 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 681.7865 the dumbest bunch of people 683.7805 587 PRV_int_01 683.9714 Really? 684.4920 588 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 684.5252 running Princeville. 685.6328 589 PRV_int_01 685.6281 Yeah. 686.0020 590 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 686.1203 We always get the wrong people in there. They [get in] there and do all this talking about, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that and they never do it. 692.4564 591 PRV_int_01 688.2910 [Yeah.] 688.5608 592 PRV_int_01 692.5558 Mm. 692.9345 593 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 692.9581 And we can find the most uneducated people to try to run this town. 696.5962 594 PRV_int_01 696.6388 Mm. 696.9464 595 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 697.6801 It's- 697.9783 596 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 697.9783 (pause 0.13) 698.1109 597 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 698.1109 it's sad. 698.7404 598 PRV_int_01 699.0197 So it's just poorly run? 700.3640 599 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 700.5608 And anytime they have a town meeting, it's- 702.7902 600 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 702.7902 (pause 0.38) 703.1736 601 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 703.1736 These are supposed to be grown, educated, civilized people, and they're in the town meeting fighting, [and they have] it on the front page of the newspaper. 710.2671 602 PRV_int_01 708.4210 [/?/] 708.6861 603 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 710.6994 I'm not used to that kind of stuff. 712.2233 604 PRV_int_01 712.1983 Mm-hm. 712.6460 605 PRV_int_01 713.2971 So wait, so it wasn't like that before? 715.1154 606 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 715.5597 No. 715.8058 607 PRV_int_01 716.0851 Really? 716.3644 608 PRV_int_01 716.3644 (pause 0.47) 716.8310 609 PRV_int_01 716.8310 Hm. 717.0818 610 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 717.3090 We've had dumb mayors, but [] 719.6947 611 PRV_int_01 718.5729 [] 719.6994 612 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 719.9503 it hasn't- 720.5656 613 PRV_int_01 720.6272 [Everybody has dumb mayors. ] 722.2223 614 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 720.7455 [it hasn't been like that before.] 722.4354 615 PRV_int_01 722.5490 Yeah. 722.8898 616 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 722.9986 [We've had] the dumbest bunch of mayors. I think we need to be in the Guinness [Book of World Records.] 727.3183 617 PRV_int_01 723.0203 [/inaudible/] 723.3706 618 PRV_int_01 723.3706 (pause 2.87) 726.2438 619 PRV_int_01 726.2438 [] 727.8058 620 PRV_int_01 728.5158 So you think people moved out because of that 730.2794 621 PRV_int_01 730.2794 (pause 0.33) 730.6107 622 PRV_int_01 730.6107 or? 730.8853 623 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 731.5006 Probably part of the reason. 732.7644 624 PRV_int_01 732.8118 Yeah. 733.1905 625 PRV_int_01 733.1905 (pause 0.71) 733.9052 626 PRV_int_01 733.9052 Any other reasons you- I mean- 735.3529 627 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 735.8345 [Uh], 736.5113 628 PRV_int_01 736.1043 [I mean] you don't know it- 737.1787 629 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 737.3776 [misusage] of funds, I mean any kind of money that came through was always a big scandal about that, and 742.7007 630 PRV_int_01 737.6095 [/inaudible/] 738.1302 631 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 744.1870 it's basically I just don't think that- It's- there's one woman 747.4956 632 PRV_int_01 747.7635 Mm. 748.1043 633 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 748.7385 that's on the town council that really pushes 751.4697 634 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 751.4697 (pause 0.40) 751.8721 635 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 751.8721 and drives for Princeville 753.4862 636 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 753.4862 (pause 0.54) 754.0238 637 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 754.0238 to be good but they don't give her her credit. And that's 756.4710 638 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 756.4710 (pause 0.13) 756.6035 639 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 756.6035 Ann Howell 757.3183 640 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 757.3183 (pause 0.21) 757.5265 641 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 757.5265 Brown. 757.9099 642 PRV_int_01 758.1087 Mm-hm. 758.4827 643 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 759.1907 /RD-NAME-4/. I know some call her /RD-NAME-2/. 761.4154 644 PRV_int_01 761.5290 Mm-hm. 761.8509 645 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 761.8556 Um, 762.2627 646 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 762.2627 (pause 0.96) 763.2236 647 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 763.2236 she- 763.7253 648 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 763.7253 (pause 0.42) 764.1466 649 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 764.1466 she's a go-getter, 765.1454 650 PRV_int_01 765.2522 Uh-huh. 765.6214 651 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 765.8676 and she 766.2557 652 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 766.2557 (pause 0.95) 767.2071 653 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 767.2071 gets a lot of stuff going for Princeville. She'll get the ball rolling but they won't continue to push it. It's like they'll 772.1043 654 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 772.1043 (pause 0.21) 772.3173 655 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 772.3173 work on it a little while, and then they just 774.2580 656 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 774.2580 (pause 0.16) 774.4142 657 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 774.4142 leave her ideas alone. 775.5786 658 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 775.5786 (pause 0.79) 776.3644 659 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 776.3644 And she's like, 776.9134 660 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 776.9134 (pause 0.47) 777.3800 661 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 777.3800 the most civilized and most educated person that they have in there. [And I] really think she should be mayor, but 782.5206 662 PRV_int_01 780.6130 [Mm-hm.] 780.8970 663 PRV_int_01 782.9702 Yeah. 783.4152 664 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 784.4782 I don't know why they don't see that. You know, she's a good person. 786.9491 665 PRV_int_01 787.3325 Do you vote? 787.9052 666 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 788.4212 Yes. 788.8046 667 PRV_int_01 789.3469 Do a lot of people vote in Princeville? 791.0509 668 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 791.5858 I don't think so. 792.4236 669 PRV_int_01 792.4426 Really? 792.8923 670 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 793.1526 They- they're the ones that complain about everything, but when you go through the polls, the polls are like bare. 797.9740 671 PRV_int_01 798.2248 Mm. 798.5372 672 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 798.6319 It's like, okay. You were complaining but where are you now? 800.6957 673 PRV_int_01 800.7742 Mm-hm. 801.2212 674 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 801.7871 [So] 802.1658 675 PRV_int_01 801.7919 [/??/] 802.1469 676 PRV_int_01 802.3977 [Do young] people vote in Princeville? 804.1018 677 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 802.4025 [no they don't.] 802.9231 678 PRV_int_01 804.3242 Do you hear them /pressing/ that they do? 805.7253 679 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 806.2555 I don't think they do. 807.3726 680 PRV_int_01 807.3611 Yeah. 807.6688 681 PRV_int_01 808.0901 People you know, but they say that they won't. 810.1207 682 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 810.5278 People say it just to 812.0093 683 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 812.0093 (pause 0.36) 812.3691 684 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 812.3691 [say it, but they] don't do it because they- r- 815.3586 685 PRV_int_01 812.7316 [ They just-] 813.5410 686 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 815.5243 fail to realize that 816.6792 687 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 816.6792 (pause 0.36) 817.0437 688 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 817.0437 when the voting goes on and they have it on the news, they let you know the percentage of people that showed up and the percentage is usually low. 823.9147 689 PRV_int_01 823.9525 Mm-hm. 824.4256 690 PRV_int_01 824.4256 (pause 0.36) 824.7856 691 PRV_int_01 824.7856 Yeah. 825.0791 692 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 825.2286 And you know like, if- if Princeville has seventeen hundred 828.2911 693 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 828.2911 (pause 0.80) 829.0863 694 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 829.0863 people, why did only six hundred people, 831.6735 695 PRV_int_01 831.9670 Mm-hm. 832.3599 696 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 832.4593 and sometimes not even that many, 834.0592 697 PRV_int_01 834.2343 Mm-hm. 834.7739 698 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 834.9680 why did only six hundred people show up to vote? 837.0582 699 PRV_int_01 837.2570 Yeah. 837.6404 700 PRV_int_01 837.6404 (pause 0.65) 838.2936 701 PRV_int_01 838.2936 Hm. 838.6202 702 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 839.6852 It can't be six hundred grown people and eleven hundred [children. That doesn't make sense.] 843.7500 703 PRV_int_01 842.4996 [] Right. Right. Right. 844.5681 704 PRV_int_01 845.2498 Hm. 845.5432 705 PRV_int_01 845.5432 (pause 0.79) 846.3290 706 PRV_int_01 846.3290 That seems crazy. 847.2520 707 PRV_int_01 847.2520 (pause 0.81) 848.0661 708 PRV_int_01 848.0661 So it's changed a lot. 849.4010 709 PRV_int_01 849.4010 (pause 0.72) 850.1185 710 PRV_int_01 850.1185 It's changed a lot. 850.9468 711 PRV_int_01 850.9468 (pause 0.57) 851.5196 712 PRV_int_01 851.5196 What are some of the things that you remember- the positive things that you remember from- 855.8155 713 PRV_int_01 855.8155 (pause 0.28) 856.0995 714 PRV_int_01 856.0995 from when- when you were growing up /inaudible/? 859.2662 715 PRV_int_01 859.2662 (pause 0.29) 859.5549 716 PRV_int_01 859.5549 I know she's the /unintelligible/. Did you grow up uh- 862.2841 717 PRV_int_01 862.2841 (pause 0.89) 863.1693 718 PRV_int_01 863.1693 Did you guys all grow up together? 864.6792 719 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 864.6840 Everybody was together. 865.9431 720 PRV_int_01 865.9857 Okay. 866.4164 721 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 866.4448 Everybody was together. 867.5202 722 PRV_int_01 867.5031 What was that like? 868.2889 723 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 869.2403 We had a 869.8793 724 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 869.8793 (pause 0.59) 870.4662 725 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 870.4662 stubborn grandmother. 871.7912 726 PRV_int_01 871.7869 Yeah. 872.6957 727 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 873.1055 Very stubborn but she made sure that all of us stayed together. 876.8733 728 PRV_int_01 877.0863 Mm-hm. 877.4112 729 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 877.6543 Um, 878.2176 730 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 878.2176 (pause 0.80) 879.0223 731 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 879.0223 she never- 879.6783 732 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 879.6783 (pause 0.63) 880.3125 733 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 880.3125 even though I was her favorite- 881.4959 734 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 881.4959 (pause 0.20) 881.6947 735 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 881.6947 [/Unintelligible/.] 883.0201 736 PRV_int_01 881.7326 [Yeah? ] 883.0343 737 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 883.5360 It was- it was a- it was a bunch of us and 885.5761 738 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 885.5761 (pause 0.46) 886.0333 739 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 886.0333 she just took care 887.0557 740 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 887.0557 (pause 0.19) 887.2498 741 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 887.2498 of everybody. She didn't do for one unless she did for the 890.4117 742 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 890.4117 (pause 0.48) 890.8945 743 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 890.8945 other forty eight of [us cause] 892.4640 744 PRV_int_01 891.9291 [Mm-hm.] 892.3457 745 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 893.1267 think it was fifteen 894.2296 746 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 894.2296 (pause 0.86) 895.0863 747 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 895.0863 grands, fifteen great grands and then 897.2164 748 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 897.2164 (pause 0.23) 897.4463 749 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 897.4463 seven? 897.9102 750 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 897.9102 (pause 0.15) 898.0617 751 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 898.0617 She had seven kids [and then] they all had spouses. 900.6745 752 PRV_int_01 899.0604 [Mm-hm.] 899.4296 753 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 901.3135 So we all met up every Sunday 903.5788 754 PRV_int_01 903.8250 Mm. 904.0920 755 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 904.5445 at her house. 905.4533 756 PRV_int_01 905.6474 So how did she have room for all those people? 907.5688 757 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 907.9289 She had a fairly large house. 909.6802 758 PRV_int_01 909.4842 Yeah. 909.8297 759 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 910.2983 It wasn't big enough. 911.3302 760 PRV_int_01 911.2308 [] 911.9314 761 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 911.5764 [But it-] it was large enough. 913.0958 762 PRV_int_01 913.0106 Uh-huh. 913.4508 763 PRV_int_01 914.2081 So every Sunday you'd get together. 915.6850 764 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 915.6735 Every Sunday, and we still do it now but we just do it at my aunt Sabrina's house. 919.5360 765 PRV_int_01 919.4555 Mm-hm. 919.9147 766 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 920.1845 Um, 920.6484 767 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 920.6484 (pause 0.80) 921.4510 768 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 921.4510 cause the house that we moved into after the flood was 923.9929 769 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 923.9929 (pause 1.29) 925.2851 770 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 925.2851 smaller. 925.8579 771 PRV_int_01 926.4022 Mm-hm. 926.7004 772 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 927.0980 Not that much smaller, but it just couldn't 928.8521 773 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 928.8521 (pause 0.12) 928.9752 774 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 928.9752 house all of us. 929.9172 775 PRV_int_01 930.0781 Mm. 930.3337 776 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 930.3337 And during the flood, 931.3561 777 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 932.5490 Thank God for my aunt Gail, she 934.4640 778 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 934.4640 (pause 0.54) 935.0036 779 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 935.0036 has a room 935.8746 780 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 935.8746 (pause 0.30) 936.1728 781 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 936.1728 on the end of her house that's about 937.8721 782 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 937.8721 (pause 1.14) 939.0156 783 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 939.0156 twenty by forty feet? 940.2557 784 PRV_int_01 940.4309 Mm-hm. 940.8427 785 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 940.8048 So during the flood 942.1112 786 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 942.9017 all of us stayed in Princeville except for her 944.9702 787 PRV_int_01 945.1244 Mm-hm. 945.5078 788 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 945.5031 and two of my uncles 946.5729 789 PRV_int_01 946.7906 Mm-hm. 947.1360 790 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 947.1787 and so it was forty one people in her house for nine months. 950.7383 791 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 950.7383 (pause 0.54) 951.2806 792 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 951.2806 So that Sunday tradition basically turned into an everyday thing for nine months. 956.0945 793 PRV_int_01 954.9633 [] I guess so. 957.0507 794 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 957.0980 And it- 957.5836 795 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 957.5836 (pause 0.24) 957.8250 796 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 957.8250 it really wore me out, but I'm just glad that we did have somewhere to go, 960.9775 797 PRV_int_01 961.0769 Yeah. 961.4035 798 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 961.3893 and to humble us, she would 962.7809 799 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 963.3800 um, let us go to 964.6723 800 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 964.6723 (pause 1.12) 965.7894 801 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 965.7894 Tarboro High School to really see how blessed we were 968.4448 802 PRV_int_01 968.4543 Mm. 968.6815 803 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 968.6436 by 968.9382 804 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 969.2049 being a close knit family, and then seeing how some of these families had to live at the school for- 973.5691 805 PRV_int_01 973.7679 Mm-hm. 974.4070 806 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 974.4638 for so long and 975.3422 807 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 975.3422 (pause 0.51) 975.8487 808 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 975.8487 some of 'em not even having anywhere to go. 977.9219 809 PRV_int_01 978.1444 Mm-hm. 978.5751 810 PRV_int_01 978.5751 (pause 0.89) 979.4603 811 PRV_int_01 979.4603 So she took you down there 980.7478 812 PRV_int_01 980.7478 (pause 0.59) 981.3374 813 PRV_int_01 981.3374 to 981.5031 814 PRV_int_01 981.5031 (pause 0.52) 982.0238 815 PRV_int_01 982.0238 see that? 982.5492 816 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 982.8853 We really couldn't drive anywhere [w-] 984.7597 817 PRV_int_01 984.5940 [Mm-hm.] 985.0153 818 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 985.0532 but we walked. 985.8673 819 PRV_int_01 986.0472 Mm-hm. 986.4259 820 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 986.6152 Um, they had like this 987.9954 821 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 987.9954 (pause 0.38) 988.3788 822 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 988.3788 block and we had- 989.8130 823 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 989.8130 (pause 1.25) 991.0674 824 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 991.0674 had a curfew too. 992.2271 825 PRV_int_01 992.2791 Mkay. 992.7572 826 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 992.8803 But 993.1643 827 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 993.1643 (pause 0.23) 993.3990 828 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 993.3990 like this part down here you couldn't go- 995.4438 829 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 995.4438 (pause 0.65) 996.0970 830 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 996.0970 you couldn't go to- we had to go through McMillan Drive and take the back way [because it-] if you were in a certain neighborhood, you had to stay within that neighborhood and couldn't go any further. 1004.1419 831 PRV_int_01 999.6641 [Hm.] 999.9102 832 PRV_int_01 1004.1892 Hm. 1004.4401 833 PRV_int_01 1004.4401 (pause 1.05) 1005.4889 834 PRV_int_01 1005.4889 Mkay. 1005.9533 835 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1006.3504 So we would go up there maybe once or twice a week. 1008.7739 836 PRV_int_01 1009.1715 To like help out or? 1010.4022 837 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1010.6862 Yes. 1011.0554 838 PRV_int_01 1011.1170 Wow. Okay. 1011.9102 839 PRV_int_01 1011.9102 (pause 1.89) 1013.7988 840 PRV_int_01 1013.7988 So your- your grandmother was- 1015.3656 841 PRV_int_01 1015.3656 (pause 0.26) 1015.6259 842 PRV_int_01 1015.6259 was a strong influence for your family? 1017.9055 843 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1018.8805 I don't think it would- 1019.6426 844 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1019.6426 (pause 0.75) 1020.3952 845 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1020.3952 A lot of her rubbed off on us 1022.2129 846 PRV_int_01 1022.5821 Mm. 1022.8140 847 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1022.7525 also because we just 1024.1232 848 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1024.7338 stubborn just like her, just determined to do 1027.1668 849 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1027.1668 (pause 0.53) 1027.6922 850 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1027.6922 a lot of things cause she had 1028.9134 851 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1028.9134 (pause 0.20) 1029.1150 852 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1029.1150 all the odds against her and she overcame 1031.5243 853 PRV_int_01 1031.8367 Mm. 1032.1396 854 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1032.8071 everything. And I- I feel that we all can do the same thing too. 1036.3551 855 PRV_int_01 1036.5208 Mm. 1036.8143 856 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1036.9089 She was just that type of person. 1038.5940 857 PRV_int_01 1038.7360 Yeah. 1039.0958 858 PRV_int_01 1039.0958 (pause 0.83) 1039.9289 859 PRV_int_01 1039.9289 Hm. 1040.1892 860 PRV_int_01 1040.1892 (pause 0.88) 1041.0676 861 PRV_int_01 1041.0676 Yeah I guess there's a few people like that in Princeville. 1044.2958 862 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1044.6035 There's only a few. 1045.6165 863 PRV_int_01 1045.7632 1046.3644 864 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1047.3800 There was only a few. 1048.4072 865 PRV_int_01 1048.4356 Yeah. 1048.7953 866 PRV_int_01 1048.7953 (pause 0.57) 1049.3634 867 PRV_int_01 1049.3634 Yeah. 1049.7278 868 PRV_int_01 1049.7278 (pause 0.89) 1050.6130 869 PRV_int_01 1050.6130 So uh, 1051.3987 870 PRV_int_01 1051.3987 (pause 1.47) 1052.8688 871 PRV_int_01 1052.8688 so what- 1053.3611 872 PRV_int_01 1053.3611 (pause 0.16) 1053.5173 873 PRV_int_01 1053.5173 how- 1053.8818 874 PRV_int_01 1053.8818 (pause 0.33) 1054.2084 875 PRV_int_01 1054.2084 back on the uh, what- what you're doing 1056.2911 876 PRV_int_01 1056.2911 (pause 0.41) 1056.7029 877 PRV_int_01 1056.7029 now, um, 1057.5691 878 PRV_int_01 1057.5691 (pause 0.90) 1058.4685 879 PRV_int_01 1058.4685 you're doing Fashion Design. 1059.5240 880 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1059.5173 Mm-hm. 1059.8439 881 PRV_int_01 1060.0617 And 1060.4214 882 PRV_int_01 1060.4214 (pause 0.20) 1060.6202 883 PRV_int_01 1060.6202 um, and you said that you were 1062.1680 884 PRV_int_01 1062.1680 (pause 0.82) 1062.9917 885 PRV_int_01 1062.9917 applying to a certain school? 1064.3312 886 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1064.2886 Mm-hm. 1064.5963 887 PRV_int_01 1064.6815 Which school? 1065.3158 888 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1065.3800 The Art Institute in Charlotte. 1066.6581 889 PRV_int_01 1066.6628 Oh, okay. 1067.1722 890 PRV_int_01 1067.1722 (pause 0.98) 1068.1491 891 PRV_int_01 1068.1491 Is that a good school? 1068.8260 892 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1068.9065 It's a good school. 1069.6307 893 PRV_int_01 1069.6165 Okay. 1070.0661 894 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1070.0567 Main reason why I hadn't gone 1071.4578 895 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1072.0049 back to school I was doing 1073.1219 896 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1073.1219 (pause 0.13) 1073.2545 897 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1073.2545 like local schools. And I considered ECU local because I was really dead set on not leaving my grandmother. 1079.1503 898 PRV_int_01 1079.1787 Mm-hm. 1079.5764 899 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1079.9314 And every time I would say that I was going back to school, she would get sick. She would get physically [sick.] 1084.8805 900 PRV_int_01 1084.6628 [Mm-hm.] 1085.1456 901 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1085.3018 Just like I want you to do this- 1086.6982 902 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1086.6982 (pause 0.27) 1086.9727 903 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1086.9727 Basically it's what she was saying, I want you to do this, 1088.8898 904 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1088.8898 (pause 1.05) 1089.9386 905 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1089.9386 but deep down inside she still didn't want 1091.9172 906 PRV_int_01 1092.4047 Yeah. 1092.7597 907 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1092.8023 me to leave. And the day that she died, I was supposed to been going to 1095.9765 908 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1095.9765 (pause 0.49) 1096.4640 909 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1096.4640 orientation, so that bothers me but then again it pushes me because I know that she really wanted me to finish, [but] I also wanted her to know that she was not 1103.5764 910 PRV_int_01 1101.3516 [Yeah.] 1101.6593 911 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1104.3432 what was holding me back. I didn't want to leave her, [and she] knew that. 1107.5146 912 PRV_int_01 1106.6531 [Mm.] 1106.9702 913 PRV_int_01 1107.5504 Yeah. 1107.9149 914 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1108.1611 But now that she's gone, I kn- know that she would really want me to move away and 1112.3833 915 PRV_int_01 1112.3833 Mm. 1112.6578 916 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1112.6484 go on and finish because I've been doing it for seven years and I'm not finished yet, [so.] 1116.8733 917 PRV_int_01 1116.5183 [Yeah.] 1116.8402 918 PRV_int_01 1118.1655 Mm, yeah. 1118.4685 919 PRV_int_01 1118.4685 (pause 0.51) 1118.9777 920 PRV_int_01 1118.9777 So it's important. 1119.7729 921 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1119.7540 It's time- it's basically time 1121.4060 922 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1121.5906 for me to grow up 1122.6556 923 PRV_int_01 1122.8544 Mkay. 1123.3419 924 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1123.5833 because 1124.0993 925 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1124.0993 (pause 0.61) 1124.7126 926 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1124.7126 anything I needed or anything that needed to be done, 1127.5243 927 PRV_int_01 1127.6616 Mm-hm. 1127.9881 928 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1127.9929 she did for me. 1128.8875 929 PRV_int_01 1129.0816 Yeah. 1129.4035 930 PRV_int_01 1129.4035 (pause 1.38) 1130.7809 931 PRV_int_01 1130.7809 So you kind of 1131.5950 932 PRV_int_01 1131.5950 (pause 1.12) 1132.7196 933 PRV_int_01 1132.7196 out on your own now. 1133.7420 934 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1133.9882 Yeah I'm on my own now. 1135.2709 935 PRV_int_01 1135.1715 Okay. 1135.5928 936 PRV_int_01 1135.8768 Okay. 1136.2649 937 PRV_int_01 1136.2649 (pause 0.62) 1136.8898 938 PRV_int_01 1136.8898 And uh, 1137.4369 939 PRV_int_01 1137.4369 (pause 0.29) 1137.7256 940 PRV_int_01 1137.7256 so 1138.3282 941 PRV_int_01 1138.3282 (pause 0.18) 1138.5066 942 PRV_int_01 1138.5066 uh, 1138.8995 943 PRV_int_01 1138.8995 (pause 0.29) 1139.1882 944 PRV_int_01 1139.1882 what do you- w- what types of things 1141.2851 945 PRV_int_01 1141.2851 (pause 1.18) 1142.4638 946 PRV_int_01 1142.4638 do you do with fashion design? What kind of things do you wanna do with- with that? 1146.1018 947 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1147.5833 My first love is um- 1150.2131 948 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1150.2131 (pause 1.11) 1151.3255 949 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1151.3255 I really wanna be a wardrobe stylist for like a television show or 1155.0602 950 PRV_int_01 1155.2522 [Mm-hm.] 1155.5788 951 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1155.4368 [music] videos 1156.4214 952 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1156.7385 or like magazine spreads is something I've always been interested in, but 1160.4401 953 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1160.4401 (pause 0.55) 1160.9939 954 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1160.9939 when you get that degree you can basically do anything from imaging to 1164.8355 955 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1164.8355 (pause 0.59) 1165.4224 956 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1165.4224 designing. I don't want my own line. There's too much 1168.0285 957 PRV_int_01 1167.9481 Mkay. 1168.3031 958 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1168.3031 that comes with that. And then, I don't know how to sew. 1170.9491 959 PRV_int_01 1171.0532 Okay. 1171.9809 960 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1172.1513 Anything that I have designed there's a woman in Princeville 1174.9941 961 PRV_int_01 1175.2403 Okay. 1175.5764 962 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1175.8462 that does 1176.4946 963 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1176.4946 (pause 0.21) 1176.7076 964 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1176.7076 all the sewing because I refuse [] to get behind a sewing machine 1180.7953 965 PRV_int_01 1178.7620 [Yeah.] 1179.1927 966 PRV_int_01 1180.9657 Who's [that?] 1181.4391 967 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1181.1645 and learn how to do anything. 1182.3290 968 PRV_int_01 1182.3432 Who's that? That- that /inaudible/? 1183.7679 969 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1184.4164 Uh, her name is /RD-NAME-4/. 1186.1792 970 PRV_int_01 1186.2226 Oh, okay. /?/ 1187.2971 971 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1187.2450 Her- that was her sister that I was just talking about that's on the town council? Miss Ann? That's her sister. 1191.7682 972 PRV_int_01 1191.2696 [Huh.] Oh, okay. /Cool/. 1192.7311 973 PRV_int_01 1193.8651 That's good that she- so- she- so you don't sew much but you [/inaudible/ .] 1198.1847 974 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1196.4117 [No sewing for me period.] 1197.5327 975 PRV_int_01 1198.9941 But you like to do some like, 1200.3757 976 PRV_int_01 1200.3757 (pause 0.19) 1200.5704 977 PRV_int_01 1200.5704 different like /stuff/, 1201.5975 978 PRV_int_01 1201.5975 (pause 0.21) 1201.8105 979 PRV_int_01 1201.8105 wardrobe design [/inaudible/.] Okay. 1203.9812 980 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1202.7951 [Yes, yes.] 1203.7398 981 PRV_int_01 1204.1563 Have you- have you had a chance to like, 1206.0686 982 PRV_int_01 1206.0686 (pause 0.72) 1206.7929 983 PRV_int_01 1206.7929 um, 1207.1905 984 PRV_int_01 1207.1905 (pause 0.97) 1208.1561 985 PRV_int_01 1208.1561 /unintelligible/ yeah, something, you- 1209.7322 986 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1210.2037 [Mm-hm.] 1210.6817 987 PRV_int_01 1210.3031 [/inaudible/] 1211.1219 988 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1211.0746 And also my aunt helped me with that. Um, 1213.4366 989 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1214.2981 the year 1214.9371 990 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1214.9371 (pause 0.58) 1215.5220 991 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1215.5220 of the flood- 1216.3599 992 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1216.3599 (pause 1.00) 1217.3586 993 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1217.3586 uh, my aunt has her wholesale license, [and] she wanted 1220.5490 994 PRV_int_01 1219.4839 [Mm-hm.] 1219.8910 995 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1221.1548 all the girls, 1221.9995 996 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1221.9995 (pause 0.71) 1222.7101 997 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1222.7101 like anybody that came to her, 1224.0828 998 PRV_int_01 1224.1065 Yeah. 1224.4852 999 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1224.7976 um, 1225.3041 1000 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1225.3041 (pause 0.97) 1226.2744 1001 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1226.2744 she had me to design prom gowns for them. 1228.8758 1002 PRV_int_01 1228.8805 Oh wow. 1229.2971 1003 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1229.9408 And they cost a little or nothing. They just paid 1232.2555 1004 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1232.2555 (pause 0.87) 1233.1244 1005 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1233.1244 for the dress. She didn't make any money or anything [off of it], but it's this company that she dealt with out of New Jersey, 1238.5868 1006 PRV_int_01 1235.3634 [Mm-hm.] 1235.7468 1007 PRV_int_01 1238.7194 Mm-hm. 1239.0886 1008 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1239.1596 that I uh, sent all of my designs to, 1241.4770 1009 PRV_int_01 1241.4722 [Mm-hm.] 1241.9503 1010 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1241.7184 [and] swatches of fabric so they can know um, what kind of fabric to use 1245.6262 1011 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1246.3930 on the gowns and what kind of beading and what color [and] 1249.3845 1012 PRV_int_01 1249.0721 [Mm-hm.] 1249.4319 1013 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1249.5691 that year 1250.1797 1014 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1250.1797 (pause 0.44) 1250.6247 1015 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1250.6247 think I did eighteen gowns? 1252.3741 1016 PRV_int_01 1252.5634 Okay, wow. 1253.2640 1017 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1253.2734 And they had 'em all shipped here. 1254.9159 1018 PRV_int_01 1255.1479 Oh wow. 1255.6875 1019 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1256.1040 I think I did two tuxedos also that they did. 1259.3018 1020 PRV_int_01 1259.3681 Oh wow. 1259.9219 1021 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1260.2532 So I've actually seen quite a few of my 1262.5348 1022 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1262.5348 (pause 0.82) 1263.3564 1023 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1263.3564 designs come to life. 1264.9421 1024 PRV_int_01 1264.7433 Oh nice. 1265.4770 1025 PRV_int_01 1265.8651 Yeah. 1266.2201 1026 PRV_int_01 1266.2201 (pause 0.44) 1266.6603 1027 PRV_int_01 1266.6603 So- so you sent all that to them and they- they made it happen? 1269.6830 1028 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1269.5504 Mm-hm. They- they make 'em there in New Jersey and then they send them to India 1273.9147 1029 PRV_int_01 1274.3217 Mm-hm. 1274.7099 1030 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1274.8850 to be beaded. And then they s- 1276.2889 1031 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1276.2889 (pause 0.21) 1276.4971 1032 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1276.4971 the people in India sent them back to us. 1278.7834 1033 PRV_int_01 1278.8355 Wow. 1279.1905 1034 PRV_int_01 1279.1905 (pause 0.94) 1280.1324 1035 PRV_int_01 1280.1324 And who paid for that? 1281.0412 1036 PRV_int_01 1281.0412 (pause 0.16) 1281.2049 1037 PRV_int_01 1281.2049 1281.7824 1038 PRV_int_01 1281.7824 (pause 0.46) 1282.2463 1039 PRV_int_01 1282.2463 1282.6249 1040 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1282.8332 She [did.] 1283.3469 1041 PRV_int_01 1283.0793 [Okay. That's pretty nice.] 1285.2378 1042 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1283.8840 [] 1284.9964 1043 PRV_int_01 1285.7395 Wow. 1286.0993 1044 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1286.4070 That's the kind of person- that's why I- I- 1287.9575 1045 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1287.9575 (pause 0.37) 1288.3315 1046 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1288.3315 I'll be glad when you- 1289.5574 1047 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1289.5574 (pause 0.42) 1289.9787 1048 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1289.9787 if you get a chance to interview her because she's a- 1292.3265 1049 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1292.3265 (pause 0.84) 1293.1643 1050 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1293.1643 she's a good person. 1294.1753 1051 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1294.1753 (pause 0.47) 1294.6439 1052 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1294.6439 She'll give you the- 1295.4249 1053 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1295.4249 (pause 0.67) 1296.0923 1054 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1296.0923 she'll give you the shirt off her back. 1297.4792 1055 PRV_int_01 1297.6401 Yeah. 1297.9762 1056 PRV_int_01 1297.9762 (pause 0.59) 1298.5679 1057 PRV_int_01 1298.5679 Yeah, she seems really nice. 1300.0859 1058 PRV_int_01 1300.0859 (pause 0.13) 1300.2179 1059 PRV_int_01 1300.2179 She does. 1300.6817 1060 PRV_int_01 1300.6817 (pause 0.84) 1301.5243 1061 PRV_int_01 1301.5243 Yeah, I wanna get a chance to interview her definitely. I'm- 1304.5584 1062 PRV_int_01 1304.5584 (pause 0.38) 1304.9371 1063 PRV_int_01 1304.9371 I'm sure I'll be back if she- if she lets me. 1307.4107 1064 PRV_int_01 1307.4107 (pause 1.41) 1308.8165 1065 PRV_int_01 1308.8165 Seems like a good place to just kind of hang out. 1310.9797 1066 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1312.2179 I try not to stay too long. 1313.4202 1067 PRV_int_01 1313.5054 1314.3242 1068 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1314.7313 Women and gossiping, 1316.4685 1069 PRV_int_01 1316.4760 1317.4558 1070 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1317.6072 not too good. 1318.3362 1071 PRV_int_01 1319.4249 No? 1319.8083 1072 PRV_int_01 1319.8083 (pause 0.26) 1320.0639 1073 PRV_int_01 1320.0639 /unintelligible/ 1320.8639 1074 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1320.8733 1321.4177 1075 PRV_int_01 1321.4271 1321.9620 1076 PRV_int_01 1321.9620 (pause 1.16) 1323.1197 1077 PRV_int_01 1323.1197 1324.2273 1078 PRV_int_01 1324.2273 (pause 1.91) 1326.1349 1079 PRV_int_01 1326.1349 Hm. 1326.4994 1080 PRV_int_01 1326.4994 (pause 1.45) 1327.9478 1081 PRV_int_01 1327.9478 Um, 1328.2933 1082 PRV_int_01 1328.2933 (pause 3.70) 1331.9976 1083 PRV_int_01 1331.9976 what was I gonna ask? 1332.9585 1084 PRV_int_01 1332.9585 (pause 0.41) 1333.3656 1085 PRV_int_01 1333.3656 Oh uh, 1334.0377 1086 PRV_int_01 1334.0377 (pause 0.23) 1334.2697 1087 PRV_int_01 1334.2697 so 1334.6200 1088 PRV_int_01 1334.6200 (pause 6.74) 1341.3584 1089 PRV_int_01 1341.3584 so then 1341.9386 1090 PRV_int_01 1341.9386 (pause 1.61) 1343.5527 1091 PRV_int_01 1343.5527 uh, 1343.9408 1092 PRV_int_01 1343.9408 (pause 0.89) 1344.8307 1093 PRV_int_01 1344.8307 so in terms of Princeville, again, well I think you were telling me about this like, 1347.7019 1094 PRV_int_01 1347.7019 (pause 1.19) 1348.8947 1095 PRV_int_01 1348.8947 you know, 1349.3160 1096 PRV_int_01 1349.3160 (pause 0.21) 1349.5290 1097 PRV_int_01 1349.5290 what it's like today? 1350.7029 1098 PRV_int_01 1350.7029 (pause 0.48) 1351.1857 1099 PRV_int_01 1351.1857 You know, what- 1351.8295 1100 PRV_int_01 1351.8295 (pause 0.89) 1352.7146 1101 PRV_int_01 1352.7146 what is- you- what is- 1353.7398 1102 PRV_int_01 1353.7398 (pause 1.37) 1355.1077 1103 PRV_int_01 1355.1077 what are some of the positive things that are happening in Princeville in terms of 1358.3975 1104 PRV_int_01 1358.3975 (pause 0.83) 1359.2258 1105 PRV_int_01 1359.2258 you know, just 1359.7500 1106 PRV_int_01 1359.7500 (pause 0.30) 1360.0522 1107 PRV_int_01 1360.0522 different activities or 1361.3728 1108 PRV_int_01 1361.3728 (pause 0.18) 1361.5480 1109 PRV_int_01 1361.5480 people who aren't 1362.3337 1110 PRV_int_01 1362.3337 (pause 0.72) 1363.0579 1111 PRV_int_01 1363.0579 still you know kind of /unintelligible/. 1364.5632 1112 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1364.7336 Think the best thing that Princeville has going for them now is the Boys and Girls Club. 1369.6212 1113 PRV_int_01 1369.6401 Really? 1369.9809 1114 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1370.1987 That's about all I can think of. 1372.2368 1115 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1372.2368 (pause 0.20) 1372.4403 1116 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1372.4403 Um, 1372.7859 1117 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1372.7859 (pause 0.50) 1373.2829 1118 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1373.2829 the church that my grandmother was a member of, they have 1375.7301 1119 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1375.7301 (pause 0.32) 1376.0472 1120 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1376.0472 I think it's Monday night, but they have the nights for the kids. 1379.0462 1121 PRV_int_01 1379.1787 Mm-hm. 1379.5953 1122 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1379.8604 But other than that, just them and- and the Boys and Girls Club. It- 1382.8945 1123 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1382.8945 (pause 0.36) 1383.2495 1124 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1383.2495 basically keep 1384.1279 1125 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1384.1279 (pause 0.83) 1384.9563 1126 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1384.9563 the children 1385.6284 1127 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1385.6284 (pause 0.33) 1385.9598 1128 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1385.9598 off the streets and out of trouble. 1387.5502 1129 PRV_int_01 1387.6969 [Mm-hm.] 1388.0803 1130 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1387.7253 [I wish they] had something like for that adults but the adults really should know better. 1392.1328 1131 PRV_int_01 1392.1633 1392.8402 1132 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1392.8686 And- they're old enough to know better 1394.2839 1133 PRV_int_01 1394.2886 [Mm-hm.] 1394.7856 1134 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1394.5726 [and to] do the things that they're doing. 1396.0427 1135 PRV_int_01 1396.2936 Mm-hm. 1396.7101 1136 PRV_int_01 1396.7101 (pause 1.00) 1397.7136 1137 PRV_int_01 1397.7136 So you- you /?/- what kinds of things does the Boys and Girls Club do? 1401.5856 1138 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1402.4971 I haven't really 1403.2403 1139 PRV_int_01 1403.3681 [] 1404.0024 1140 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1403.5006 [been in there] but once or twice, [but] 1405.5549 1141 PRV_int_01 1405.2520 [Mm-hm.] 1405.6070 1142 PRV_int_01 1406.8452 Mm-hm. 1407.2002 1143 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1407.1860 they do a lot of activities within the building. 1409.3255 1144 PRV_int_01 1409.4060 [Mm-hm.] 1409.8604 1145 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1409.5716 [And then] they may take 'em out maybe once or twice a week. 1412.3972 1146 PRV_int_01 1412.4590 Yeah. 1412.7710 1147 PRV_int_01 1412.7710 (pause 1.27) 1414.0427 1148 PRV_int_01 1414.0427 Okay. 1414.4498 1149 PRV_int_01 1414.4498 (pause 0.36) 1414.8048 1150 PRV_int_01 1414.8048 And just different activities [/or/?] 1416.4568 1151 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1416.0450 [Yes sir.] 1416.5041 1152 PRV_int_01 1416.9680 What was around- what was around when- when you were a kid? Was there uh, a lot of stuff to do? 1421.3918 1153 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1421.8320 Mm. 1422.3668 1154 PRV_int_01 1422.5893 1423.1952 1155 PRV_int_01 1423.1952 (pause 0.89) 1424.0851 1156 PRV_int_01 1424.0851 What kinds of things did you like to do when you were- 1425.8818 1157 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1425.8155 There were tons of playgrounds in Princeville, I do remember that. 1429.2425 1158 PRV_int_01 1429.3561 Really? 1429.7159 1159 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1429.9762 There was tons of playgrounds and basically just going to- 1433.2687 1160 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1433.2687 (pause 0.96) 1434.2296 1161 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1434.2296 can't say friends, 1435.3673 1162 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1435.3673 (pause 0.37) 1435.7348 1163 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1435.7348 basically everybody was your family members, [but just] going to somebody's house 1439.4012 1164 PRV_int_01 1437.6025 [Mm-hm.] 1437.9765 1165 PRV_int_01 1437.9765 (pause 1.37) 1439.3492 1166 PRV_int_01 1439.3492 Yeah. 1439.8036 1167 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1439.9219 even if it meant them coming back to my house because my back yard was just like a jungle gym so most of the time and that's where all of the kids were. 1446.1538 1168 PRV_int_01 1446.2248 Okay. 1446.6130 1169 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1446.7171 At my house. 1447.3940 1170 PRV_int_01 1447.4366 Mm-hm. 1447.8673 1171 PRV_int_01 1447.8673 (pause 0.76) 1448.6322 1172 PRV_int_01 1448.6322 Okay. 1449.0676 1173 PRV_int_01 1449.0676 (pause 0.97) 1450.0380 1174 PRV_int_01 1450.0380 And so you use to- 1451.0983 1175 PRV_int_01 1451.0983 (pause 0.44) 1451.5385 1176 PRV_int_01 1451.5385 so- 1451.8793 1177 PRV_int_01 1451.8793 (pause 0.94) 1452.8165 1178 PRV_int_01 1452.8165 what types of things- do you remember any games you used to play or like [what games-] 1456.8379 1179 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1456.5161 [Let's see], Hide and Seek, 1457.8604 1180 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1458.1728 hopscotch, 1459.2520 1181 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1459.2520 (pause 1.20) 1460.4543 1182 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1460.4543 um, basketball. 1461.9765 1183 PRV_int_01 1462.1516 Yeah. 1462.4687 1184 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1463.1030 Uh, 1463.4296 1185 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1463.4296 (pause 0.15) 1463.5811 1186 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1463.5811 /RD-NAME-2/ got me started 1465.1100 1187 PRV_int_01 1465.3656 [Yeah.] 1465.6212 1188 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1465.4461 [in] tennis. 1466.1087 1189 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1466.3454 He was- 1466.5821 1190 PRV_int_01 1466.5064 Oh [really?] 1466.9371 1191 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1466.6910 [They] used to tease me and call me white boy, [wanted play] tennis. 1469.6426 1192 PRV_int_01 1468.4687 [] 1469.2356 1193 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1470.8260 Um- 1471.3845 1194 PRV_int_01 1472.0851 So not too many people played tennis with you? 1474.0806 1195 PRV_int_01 1474.0806 (pause 0.32) 1474.4025 1196 PRV_int_01 1474.4025 Was it you and [/RD-NAME-2/?] 1475.5006 1197 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1475.1409 [It was] just me and Uncle /RD-NAME-2/. 1476.7615 1198 PRV_int_01 1476.6366 1477.6496 1199 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1477.7064 Um, 1478.2129 1200 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1478.2129 (pause 0.40) 1478.6152 1201 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1478.6152 badminton, 1479.6593 1202 PRV_int_01 1479.8581 Uh-huh. 1480.3393 1203 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1483.0011 think the best one though was playing in the mud. I think I played in the mud [til I was about] ten. 1486.8158 1204 PRV_int_01 1485.6925 [] 1486.2273 1205 PRV_int_01 1486.9657 [Really?] 1487.6994 1206 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1486.9752 [] 1488.3905 1207 PRV_int_01 1488.5041 So you had the creativity in you- [in you?] 1490.6484 1208 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1490.3265 [Yeah I was] building 1491.1596 1209 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1491.4605 cause at one point I wanted to be an architect, so I would 1493.6521 1210 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1493.6521 (pause 0.74) 1494.3952 1211 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1494.3952 just 1494.6414 1212 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1494.6414 (pause 0.18) 1494.8213 1213 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1494.8213 wet the whole backyard up, 1496.3839 1214 PRV_int_01 1496.3786 [] 1496.8519 1215 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1496.5639 [and just] 1496.9513 1216 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1497.1028 dig up all the mud and make like my own little communities with the- the [river and streets] and- 1502.2744 1217 PRV_int_01 1500.9680 [] 1501.5786 1218 PRV_int_01 1503.0507 Yeah. 1503.3489 1219 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1503.4652 I was real creative 1504.4971 1220 PRV_int_01 1504.6249 Yeah. 1504.9089 1221 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1504.8332 with- with that. 1505.6237 1222 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1505.8320 [And then] my grandma would just drive up in the driveway and just run over all over it. [It's like, I] told you about building this stuff in my driveway. 1511.5243 1223 PRV_int_01 1505.8320 [Uh-] 1506.0734 1224 PRV_int_01 1506.0734 (pause 2.90) 1508.9777 1225 PRV_int_01 1508.9777 [Aw!] 1509.3280 1226 PRV_int_01 1511.5811 1512.9680 1227 PRV_int_01 1512.9680 (pause 0.25) 1513.2141 1228 PRV_int_01 1513.2141 Aw, that's hilarious. 1514.1797 1229 PRV_int_01 1514.1797 (pause 0.51) 1514.6862 1230 PRV_int_01 1514.6862 1515.1548 1231 PRV_int_01 1515.1548 (pause 0.16) 1515.3138 1232 PRV_int_01 1515.3138 Yeah. 1515.7587 1233 PRV_int_01 1515.7587 (pause 0.19) 1515.9528 1234 PRV_int_01 1515.9528 I used to do something like [/that too/.] 1517.6924 1235 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1517.2356 [] 1518.0355 1236 PRV_int_01 1519.0201 1519.9809 1237 PRV_int_01 1519.9809 (pause 0.91) 1520.8898 1238 PRV_int_01 1520.8898 Okay and uh, 1522.4214 1239 PRV_int_01 1522.4214 (pause 0.94) 1523.3634 1240 PRV_int_01 1523.3634 you- uh- 1523.9361 1241 PRV_int_01 1523.9361 (pause 1.64) 1525.5739 1242 PRV_int_01 1525.5739 /?/ 1525.9147 1243 PRV_int_01 1525.9147 (pause 0.09) 1526.0046 1244 PRV_int_01 1526.0046 you keep- were talking about 1526.9276 1245 PRV_int_01 1526.9276 (pause 0.35) 1527.2806 1246 PRV_int_01 1527.2806 riding bikes around town [and stuff like] that? 1529.6237 1247 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1528.6959 Mm-hm. 1529.1645 1248 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1530.2627 Now see we were- we were special kids. We always had like, 1533.3706 1249 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1533.3706 (pause 0.65) 1534.0191 1250 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1534.0191 one step above what everybody else had because other people would ride bikes. We had scooters and then 1539.3868 1251 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1539.3868 (pause 0.50) 1539.8865 1252 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1539.8865 Uncle /RD-NAME-2/ had 1540.8663 1253 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1540.8663 (pause 0.46) 1541.3255 1254 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1541.3255 the scooter that he used to take us 1543.0816 1255 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1543.0816 (pause 0.15) 1543.2283 1256 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1543.2283 riding on while everybody else was riding bikes, he was on his scooter and he had at least one or two of us on the back of it. 1548.9917 1257 PRV_int_01 1548.9585 Uh-huh. 1549.2757 1258 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1549.6449 So everything- 1550.3786 1259 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1550.3786 (pause 1.41) 1551.7919 1260 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1551.7919 that was /RD-NAME-1/'s fault. [Everything that the other] kids did we did but two times better. 1556.7620 1261 PRV_int_01 1553.0273 [] 1554.0118 1262 PRV_int_01 1554.0118 (pause 2.69) 1556.7052 1263 PRV_int_01 1556.7052 1557.3300 1264 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1557.4132 1558.0853 1265 PRV_int_01 1557.9623 Okay. 1558.3693 1266 PRV_int_01 1558.5634 Okay. 1558.9231 1267 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1559.3492 She's like, okay, they have this? I'm gonna get this for [you. I'm gonna-] this that and the other. 1563.1643 1268 PRV_int_01 1561.5455 [/Unintelligible/] 1562.3880 1269 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1563.3895 That's just 1564.0948 1270 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1564.0948 (pause 0.33) 1564.4261 1271 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1564.4261 the way she is. 1565.2592 1272 PRV_int_01 1565.4202 You had a good- 1566.1349 1273 PRV_int_01 1566.1349 (pause 0.30) 1566.4331 1274 PRV_int_01 1566.4331 good life 1567.1496 1275 PRV_int_01 1567.1496 (pause 0.21) 1567.3561 1276 PRV_int_01 1567.3561 as a child. 1567.9525 1277 PRV_int_01 1567.9525 (pause 0.29) 1568.2460 1278 PRV_int_01 1568.2460 1568.6957 1279 PRV_int_01 1568.6957 (pause 0.12) 1568.8188 1280 PRV_int_01 1568.8188 That's good. 1569.3868 1281 PRV_int_01 1569.3868 (pause 2.38) 1571.7657 1282 PRV_int_01 1571.7657 Um, 1572.1633 1283 PRV_int_01 1572.1633 (pause 1.83) 1573.9904 1284 PRV_int_01 1573.9904 so what- 1574.5632 1285 PRV_int_01 1574.5632 (pause 0.58) 1575.1481 1286 PRV_int_01 1575.1481 is there anything else like a- about 1577.1645 1287 PRV_int_01 1577.1645 (pause 0.82) 1577.9882 1288 PRV_int_01 1577.9882 Princeville that 1578.9321 1289 PRV_int_01 1578.9321 (pause 0.26) 1579.1905 1290 PRV_int_01 1579.1905 you know, is- 1579.7332 1291 PRV_int_01 1579.7332 (pause 0.83) 1580.5679 1292 PRV_int_01 1580.5679 is good to know or understand? 1582.4499 1293 PRV_int_01 1582.4499 (pause 0.28) 1582.7338 1294 PRV_int_01 1582.7338 I mean it sounds like, from talking to other people, and- 1585.0106 1295 PRV_int_01 1585.0106 (pause 1.80) 1586.8140 1296 PRV_int_01 1586.8140 there's a relationship with Tarboro 1588.4924 1297 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1588.4719 [Mm-hm.] 1588.8583 1298 PRV_int_01 1588.6912 [You got] all these /??/ shops here and- 1590.8781 1299 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1590.8071 They have the same 1592.3123 1300 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1592.4780 zip code, 1593.4388 1301 PRV_int_01 1593.6877 Mm-hm. 1594.2084 1302 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1594.3551 but it's still like Princeville is basically 1597.1195 1303 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1597.1195 (pause 0.26) 1597.3798 1304 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1597.3798 a neighborhood. 1598.2318 1305 PRV_int_01 1598.3312 Mm-hm. 1598.8424 1306 PRV_int_01 1598.8424 (pause 0.82) 1599.6593 1307 PRV_int_01 1599.6593 Mkay. 1600.0096 1308 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1600.0096 It's basically a neighborhood. But you still have a lot of people, older people, that are over there when they address their mail, they will put Princeville, 1606.2063 1309 PRV_int_01 1606.4498 Mm-hm. 1606.9279 1310 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1606.9515 North Carolina two seven eight eight six. 1609.1147 1311 PRV_int_01 1609.0674 Mm-hm. 1609.4319 1312 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1609.4271 And that's the same as Tarboro, [so] 1611.3300 1313 PRV_int_01 1611.0629 [Yeah.] 1611.3280 1314 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1612.5113 I don't know why they did it like that, but 1614.4710 1315 PRV_int_01 1614.6508 Okay. 1615.1195 1316 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1615.3372 that's how a lot of people do it. 1616.9276 1317 PRV_int_01 1617.0250 Okay. 1617.4700 1318 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1617.5599 The only thing that separates them is a bridge. 1619.5906 1319 PRV_int_01 1619.8840 Okay. 1620.3100 1320 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1620.3195 That's it. 1620.7218 1321 PRV_int_01 1620.9775 Yeah. 1621.3112 1322 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1621.8721 Only way in, only way out. 1623.3043 1323 PRV_int_01 1623.6546 Yeah. 1624.0191 1324 PRV_int_01 1624.0191 (pause 0.99) 1625.0083 1325 PRV_int_01 1625.0083 And is- what's that relationship like? Between people in Tarboro and Princeville? 1628.5442 1326 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1629.5694 Well with the younger people, 1631.0415 1327 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1631.0415 (pause 1.34) 1632.3858 1328 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1632.3858 they fight a lot, and I don't understand why. 1634.6342 1329 PRV_int_01 1634.8708 [Yeah.] 1635.2258 1330 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1635.0176 [Because] you're separated by a bridge and under that bridge is the Tar river and you're all drinking the same water. [So I don't] understand. 1641.0507 1331 PRV_int_01 1640.0472 [Mm.] 1640.3691 1332 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1641.8676 Really if you go in parts of East Tarboro you can look over and see Princeville. 1646.4417 1333 PRV_int_01 1646.5300 Mm-hm. 1646.8850 1334 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1646.8803 Even though 1647.6566 1335 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1647.9481 looking at it from the bridge's point, it's like a mile apart. 1650.8923 1336 PRV_int_01 1650.9869 Mm-hm. 1651.3372 1337 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1651.5076 But it's like actually a part where it's nothing but fields where East Tarboro meets 1655.2876 1338 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1655.2876 (pause 0.42) 1655.7089 1339 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1655.7089 Princeville. So I don't understand why 1657.3183 1340 PRV_int_01 1657.7443 Mm-hm. 1658.0945 1341 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1658.2933 there's so much 1658.9304 1342 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1658.9304 (pause 0.31) 1659.2428 1343 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1659.2428 animosity but my grandmother said it's- that was going on even when she was 1663.1147 1344 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1663.1147 (pause 0.25) 1663.3609 1345 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1663.3609 a kid and she was born in thirty eight. 1665.1075 1346 PRV_int_01 1665.2759 Really? [Wow.] 1665.9339 1347 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1665.6356 [So she said] it's been going on that long. 1667.3302 1348 PRV_int_01 1667.3728 Hm. 1667.7373 1349 PRV_int_01 1667.7373 (pause 0.61) 1668.3479 1350 PRV_int_01 1668.3479 Did she tell you anything else about that? 1669.9194 1351 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1671.6214 She always told me that Princeville won. 1673.5006 1352 PRV_int_01 1673.7420 [] 1675.4839 1353 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1673.7610 [ Anytime they would /fall/ (laughing)] 1675.4271 1354 PRV_int_01 1676.3123 [/Inaudible/] 1676.8708 1355 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1676.4306 [She said] that 1677.0507 1356 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1677.2049 tougher people 1678.0143 1357 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1678.0143 (pause 0.18) 1678.1942 1358 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1678.1942 come from Princeville 1679.2119 1359 PRV_int_01 1679.2592 Okay. 1679.7231 1360 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1680.0828 because the- 1680.8071 1361 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1680.8071 (pause 0.50) 1681.3041 1362 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1681.3041 the means of living there was rougher than what Tarboro- because we had to go to Tarboro for everything. 1685.8367 1363 PRV_int_01 1685.8414 Yeah. 1686.2012 1364 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1686.4757 It's nothing. 1687.1573 1365 PRV_int_01 1687.2757 Mm-hm. 1687.7348 1366 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1688.1324 The- the most your gonna find in Princeville is probably a mechanic 1690.8190 1367 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1690.8190 (pause 0.48) 1691.3018 1368 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1691.3018 and a 1691.5338 1369 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1691.5338 (pause 0.22) 1691.7515 1370 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1691.7515 store. 1692.2012 1371 PRV_int_01 1692.4284 Hm. 1692.7644 1372 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1693.5313 That's about it. 1694.1277 1373 PRV_int_01 1694.3596 Mm-hm. 1694.7667 1374 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1694.7052 A couple of beauty salons. 1695.9007 1375 PRV_int_01 1695.9812 Mkay. 1696.4072 1376 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1697.1125 That's about it. 1697.7846 1377 PRV_int_01 1697.8651 Yeah. 1698.1822 1378 PRV_int_01 1698.1822 (pause 2.23) 1700.4117 1379 PRV_int_01 1700.4117 1701.0412 1380 PRV_int_01 1701.0412 (pause 0.22) 1701.2570 1381 PRV_int_01 1701.2570 /unintelligible/ Princeville /???/. 1702.9881 1382 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1703.2214 That's what she said. 1704.0686 1383 PRV_int_01 1704.0308 1704.4568 1384 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1704.3952 I don't know how to sing that part [yet.] 1705.8153 1385 PRV_int_01 1705.6401 [] 1706.0093 1386 PRV_int_01 1706.9777 Do you remember any of the stories your grandma used to tell you? 1709.3870 1387 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1710.9491 My grandmother 1711.8863 1388 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1711.8863 (pause 0.99) 1712.8803 1389 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1712.8803 knew everyone, 1714.1374 1390 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1714.1374 (pause 0.24) 1714.3741 1391 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1714.3741 and she 1714.8237 1392 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1714.8237 (pause 0.59) 1715.4154 1393 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1715.4154 only knew them by their nicknames is what used to trip me out. 1718.6578 1394 PRV_int_01 1718.6531 Mm-hm. 1718.9892 1395 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1718.9229 She never knew 'em by their real names. She 1720.7953 1396 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1721.1929 would tell us stories 1722.2154 1397 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1722.2154 (pause 0.78) 1722.9964 1398 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1722.9964 of people, and 1724.0283 1399 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1724.0283 (pause 0.34) 1724.3644 1400 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1724.3644 we're just sitting back snickering, like where do they get these names from? 1728.0544 1401 PRV_int_01 1728.0781 Mm-hm. 1728.5183 1402 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1728.6508 And she's like, I don't know. That's the only name I know them by. 1731.1880 1403 PRV_int_01 1731.5836 Yeah. 1731.9433 1404 PRV_int_01 1731.9433 (pause 4.71) 1736.6578 1405 PRV_int_01 1736.6578 So 1737.0696 1406 PRV_int_01 1737.0696 (pause 0.93) 1737.9954 1407 PRV_int_01 1737.9954 what she would tell you 1738.8357 1408 PRV_int_01 1738.8357 (pause 0.46) 1739.2971 1409 PRV_int_01 1739.2971 by 1739.5953 1410 PRV_int_01 1739.5953 (pause 0.25) 1739.8462 1411 PRV_int_01 1739.8462 different names, she would [like-] 1741.1302 1412 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1740.9065 [Different-] 1741.5313 1413 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1741.7537 ch- 1741.9809 1414 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1741.9809 (pause 0.44) 1742.4164 1415 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1742.4164 people that she knew, 1743.4862 1416 PRV_int_01 1743.8345 Mm. 1744.1137 1417 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1744.5587 or that her mother knew. 1745.7988 1418 PRV_int_01 1746.2012 Yeah. 1746.5041 1419 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1746.6982 It was basically if her mother knew 'em she knew 'em. 1748.6531 1420 PRV_int_01 1748.8357 Mm-hm. 1749.2333 1421 PRV_int_01 1749.2333 (pause 1.18) 1750.4119 1422 PRV_int_01 1750.4119 Okay. 1750.8332 1423 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1751.1361 She just knew everything about everybody. 1752.8449 1424 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1752.8449 (pause 0.15) 1752.9964 1425 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1752.9964 [] 1754.0898 1426 PRV_int_01 1753.0532 [Yeah. ] 1754.4874 1427 PRV_int_01 1755.2191 Do you remember any advice she used to give you or anything like that? 1758.0686 1428 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1759.0958 One thing that sticks in my mind is that because I didn't grow up in the house with 1763.8604 1429 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1763.8604 (pause 0.85) 1764.7076 1430 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1764.7076 my sister, 1765.5123 1431 PRV_int_01 1765.8200 Mm-hm. 1766.1466 1432 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1766.9750 her daughter and I 1768.2037 1433 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1768.2037 (pause 0.37) 1768.5729 1434 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1768.5729 were 1768.8758 1435 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1768.8758 (pause 0.73) 1769.6048 1436 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1769.6048 really close because all of us stayed in the house together and my sister stayed with my mother and my father. 1774.3457 1437 PRV_int_01 1774.5066 Mm-hm. 1774.8900 1438 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1774.9184 And 1775.2498 1439 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1775.2498 (pause 0.27) 1775.5196 1440 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1775.5196 I used to mistreat 1776.6792 1441 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1776.6792 (pause 0.90) 1777.5833 1442 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1777.5833 my sister, 1778.3312 1443 PRV_int_01 1778.6200 Oh okay. 1779.2306 1444 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1779.2996 and I treated her daughter more she was my sister because I saw her every day. 1783.0532 1445 PRV_int_01 1783.0485 Okay. 1783.5597 1446 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1783.7206 And 1784.0709 1447 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1784.0709 (pause 0.61) 1784.6815 1448 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1784.6815 my grandmother 1785.4104 1449 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1785.4104 (pause 0.49) 1785.9007 1450 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1785.9007 told me, she- 1786.5681 1451 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1786.5681 (pause 0.18) 1786.7480 1452 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1786.7480 she made us um, 1788.1538 1453 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1788.1538 (pause 0.55) 1788.7029 1454 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1788.7029 get along with each other because we used to fight like cats and dogs. 1791.6688 1455 PRV_int_01 1791.7587 Mm-hm. 1792.2179 1456 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1792.3977 And so you would never know who would 1794.1349 1457 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1794.1349 (pause 0.31) 1794.4473 1458 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1794.4473 have to be the last person to do something for you, 1797.0980 1459 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1797.0980 (pause 0.22) 1797.3185 1460 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1797.3185 and if your sister is the last person that has to do something for you, she's gonna remember 1801.3088 1461 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1801.3088 (pause 0.57) 1801.8815 1462 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1801.8815 all the times that you mistreated her, and she may just pass you by. 1805.0178 1463 PRV_int_01 1805.1219 Mm-hm. 1805.6284 1464 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1806.0118 So ever since then, my sister and I 1808.2981 1465 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1808.2981 (pause 0.34) 1808.6342 1466 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1808.6342 are just like this. 1809.6703 1467 PRV_int_01 1809.6877 Wow. 1810.0380 1468 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1810.1753 And when she's not in school, when you see me, 1812.5514 1469 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1812.5514 (pause 0.42) 1812.9727 1470 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1812.9727 she's two steps behind me. 1814.5821 1471 PRV_int_01 1814.6200 Mkay. 1815.0838 1472 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1815.0440 She's not too far behind me. 1816.3125 1473 PRV_int_01 1816.4403 How old is your sister? 1817.3492 1474 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1817.3539 She's twenty one now. 1818.3526 1475 PRV_int_01 1818.3479 Okay. Okay. 1819.2993 1476 PRV_int_01 1819.6259 Do you kind of look out for your sister? 1820.8803 1477 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1820.7478 Mm-hm. 1821.0791 1478 PRV_int_01 1821.6404 And what does she- what does she /inaudible/? 1824.2012 1479 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1824.4804 She's a junior 1825.8863 1480 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1825.8863 (pause 0.12) 1826.0093 1481 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1826.0093 at North Carolina State majoring in Criminology. 1828.5303 1482 PRV_int_01 1828.7811 Oh wow. 1829.2545 1483 PRV_int_01 1829.2545 (pause 0.85) 1830.1065 1484 PRV_int_01 1830.1065 And why did she- how did she get into that? 1831.6685 1485 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1833.4530 I think she really wants to do forensic science. She's always had an infatuation with dead people. 1838.4448 1486 PRV_int_01 1838.4922 Mkay. 1839.0460 1487 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1839.3564 I don't know why. She's really scary, but she loves dead [people.] 1842.6934 1488 PRV_int_01 1842.4899 [Okay.] 1843.1668 1489 PRV_int_01 1843.9052 Hm. 1844.2129 1490 PRV_int_01 1844.2129 (pause 0.35) 1844.5659 1491 PRV_int_01 1844.5659 [/What does that] mean? 1845.3516 1492 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1844.6058 [] 1845.0365 1493 PRV_int_01 1846.3173 So she likes it there, [at N.] C. State? 1848.3167 1494 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1847.5054 [Mm-hm.] 1847.8130 1495 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1848.3337 Mm-hm. 1848.6130 1496 PRV_int_01 1848.4899 Okay. She commutes or 1849.8200 1497 PRV_int_01 1850.0425 staying up there? 1850.5442 1498 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1850.3786 She stays up there, 1851.4341 1499 PRV_int_01 1851.4037 Okay. 1851.7303 1500 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1851.7209 and she sh- 1852.3551 1501 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1852.5729 might as well commute because if I'm not up there, my mother's up there, so we see her at least two or three times a week. 1858.0475 1502 PRV_int_01 1857.9528 Oh really? 1858.4782 1503 PRV_int_01 1858.6439 Uh-huh. 1859.0367 1504 PRV_int_01 1859.0367 (pause 0.70) 1859.7373 1505 PRV_int_01 1859.7373 And you go up there and 1860.8118 1506 PRV_int_01 1860.8118 (pause 0.25) 1861.0627 1507 PRV_int_01 1861.0627 just 1861.4177 1508 PRV_int_01 1861.4177 (pause 0.35) 1861.7679 1509 PRV_int_01 1861.7679 cause you're- you're still in 1862.9986 1510 PRV_int_01 1862.9986 (pause 0.39) 1863.3895 1511 PRV_int_01 1863.3895 school /inaudible/? 1864.2037 1512 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1864.2037 I'm not back in [school yet.] 1865.5480 1513 PRV_int_01 1865.0131 [Oh you- Oh, okay,] that's right. Cause you going to Charlotte. [So you just] go up to visit a lot? 1867.9431 1514 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1866.7644 [Mm-hm.] 1867.0532 1515 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1867.0532 (pause 0.80) 1867.8484 1516 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1867.8484 Mm-hm. 1868.1892 1517 PRV_int_01 1868.3217 Oh nice. 1868.8188 1518 PRV_int_01 1868.8188 (pause 0.55) 1869.3658 1519 PRV_int_01 1869.3658 Everybody says they either c- everyone who's out there says they come home every weekend and- 1873.4981 1520 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1873.5502 I love her school. 1874.5774 1521 PRV_int_01 1874.6673 Yeah. 1875.0034 1522 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1874.9966 I was accepted and I didn't go. I wish I had gone. [] 1878.4757 1523 PRV_int_01 1877.6710 [Really?] 1878.0686 1524 PRV_int_01 1878.5798 Okay. 1879.0343 1525 PRV_int_01 1879.0343 (pause 0.41) 1879.4413 1526 PRV_int_01 1879.4413 What do you like about State? 1880.4638 1527 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1881.8629 It's just 1882.3457 1528 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1882.3457 (pause 0.44) 1882.7811 1529 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1882.7811 the campus- the campus is beautiful. 1884.8639 1530 PRV_int_01 1885.1763 Uh-huh. 1885.4461 1531 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1885.3987 Um, 1885.9147 1532 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1886.0993 the academics are good. The people are nice. 1888.5397 1533 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1888.5397 (pause 0.27) 1888.8048 1534 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1888.8048 I mean, I haven't seen anything at that school out of place. 1892.1324 1535 PRV_int_01 1892.1845 Hm. 1892.4543 1536 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1892.8235 Don't see anybody mistreating it- If it goes on, I don't see it. 1895.8225 1537 PRV_int_01 1895.8462 Mm-hm. 1896.3716 1538 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1896.8923 /??/ everybody's happy go lucky, and it's like every time I go there the sun is always out. It [never] rains, [so.] 1902.0936 1539 PRV_int_01 1900.8285 [] 1901.0983 1540 PRV_int_01 1901.0983 (pause 0.46) 1901.5622 1541 PRV_int_01 1901.5622 [] 1901.9124 1542 PRV_int_01 1902.6366 I'll- I can attest to the [fact that it does] rain. [] 1905.9197 1543 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1903.8389 [] 1904.5158 1544 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1904.5158 (pause 0.33) 1904.8472 1545 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1904.8472 [] 1905.7500 1546 PRV_int_01 1906.4687 That's funny. 1907.6900 1547 PRV_int_01 1907.6900 (pause 0.55) 1908.2390 1548 PRV_int_01 1908.2390 Speaking of uh, /RD-NAME-3/, I was gonna ask you about- were- were you- were you here during the flood 1912.9192 1549 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1913.0793 [Mm-hm.] 1913.3586 1550 PRV_int_01 1913.1835 [in] ninety nine? 1913.7231 1551 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1913.8130 [Mm-hm.] 1914.0592 1552 PRV_int_01 1913.9077 [Were you-] uh- what- what do you remember from the flood? 1916.4924 1553 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1916.4780 I had just gotten home from school. 1918.7906 1554 PRV_int_01 1918.9279 Uh-huh. 1919.2403 1555 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1919.5290 I left school that 1920.6982 1556 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1920.6982 (pause 0.62) 1921.3135 1557 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1921.3135 January of ninety nine. 1922.8850 1558 PRV_int_01 1923.1170 Uh-huh. 1923.4010 1559 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1923.3706 So I only been home about nine months, and I often think that if I stayed at A and T I wouldn't have lost all my clothes. 1929.2874 1560 PRV_int_01 1929.2570 Mm. 1929.6474 1561 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1930.1563 But 1930.3646 1562 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1930.3646 (pause 0.75) 1931.1172 1563 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1931.1172 um, 1931.6284 1564 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1931.6284 (pause 0.27) 1931.8935 1565 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1931.8935 I left for 1932.8733 1566 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1932.8733 (pause 1.17) 1934.0425 1567 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1934.0425 work that morning. My grandmother and I left for work, 1936.5539 1568 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1936.5539 (pause 1.92) 1938.4757 1569 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1938.4757 and she just told me to pack an outfit or two because 1942.3474 1570 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1942.3474 (pause 0.49) 1942.8379 1571 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1942.8379 they're thinking about 1943.8367 1572 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1943.8367 (pause 1.07) 1944.9017 1573 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1944.9017 that the dam might break and that it might flood a little. And from what she told me of the flood in fifty nine it was only about two feet of water, so that's all 1952.4969 1574 PRV_int_01 1952.6010 Mm yeah. 1952.9229 1575 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1953.1406 that we 1953.7493 1576 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1953.7493 (pause 0.75) 1954.4971 1577 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1954.4971 were expecting. 1955.3350 1578 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1955.3350 (pause 0.21) 1955.5432 1579 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1955.5432 On my way to work that morning 1957.1715 1580 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1957.1715 (pause 0.42) 1957.5928 1581 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1957.5928 I was in a car accident. My car hydroplaned, 1959.9433 1582 PRV_int_01 1960.1753 Oh wow. 1960.6324 1583 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1960.8427 so I came back home, 1962.0497 1584 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1962.0497 (pause 1.46) 1963.5076 1585 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1963.5076 and that's when 1964.1229 1586 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1964.1229 (pause 0.28) 1964.4070 1587 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1964.4070 I heard of everything that was going on and that they were trying to get everybody 1967.7988 1588 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1967.7988 (pause 1.02) 1968.8165 1589 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1968.8165 out of Princeville, so I didn't have time to- 1971.0507 1590 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1971.0507 (pause 0.43) 1971.4794 1591 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1971.4794 to go back to get 1972.5729 1592 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1972.5729 (pause 0.88) 1973.4486 1593 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1973.4486 any of my belongings. 1974.8639 1594 PRV_int_01 1974.8449 Mm-hm. 1975.2899 1595 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1975.6354 Cause it was too late. 1976.6673 1596 PRV_int_01 1976.9466 Yeah. 1977.3536 1597 PRV_int_01 1977.3536 (pause 0.94) 1978.2936 1598 PRV_int_01 1978.2936 So what did you guys do then? 1979.5148 1599 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1980.9822 For two weeks. 1982.2886 1600 PRV_int_01 1982.9324 Well what did- once you came back home, you just grabbed some stuff? 1985.8813 1601 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1986.2958 Oh well I grabbed some stuff before I left home that morning, 1988.8235 1602 PRV_int_01 1988.8140 Okay. 1989.2495 1603 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1989.3374 and then, 1990.0617 1604 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1990.0617 (pause 0.18) 1990.2463 1605 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1990.2463 because we couldn't go back 1991.4107 1606 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1991.4107 (pause 0.25) 1991.6616 1607 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1991.6616 to Princeville, everybody went to my aunt /RD-NAME-1/'s house. 1994.4900 1608 PRV_int_01 1994.3738 Okay. 1994.7241 1609 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1994.7762 That's where everyone 1995.4341 1610 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1995.4341 (pause 0.23) 1995.6593 1611 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1995.6593 met. 1995.9812 1612 PRV_int_01 1996.1374 Okay. 1996.7243 1613 PRV_int_01 1996.7243 (pause 0.90) 1997.6284 1614 PRV_int_01 1997.6284 And so 1998.1160 1615 PRV_int_01 1998.1160 (pause 0.23) 1998.3479 1616 PRV_int_01 1998.3479 you just stayed there. 1999.2757 1617 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 1999.2946 Just [stayed there.] 2000.1703 1618 PRV_int_01 1999.5928 [Everyone kind of] 2000.3170 1619 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2000.8661 [And then got] the notice 2002.2368 1620 PRV_int_01 2000.8661 [/Unintelligible/] 2001.4862 1621 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2002.4971 of the water. 2003.5906 1622 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2003.5906 (pause 0.23) 2003.8225 1623 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2003.8225 They were 2004.0402 1624 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2004.0402 (pause 0.18) 2004.2248 1625 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2004.2248 sand bagging everything, 2005.4413 1626 PRV_int_01 2005.5928 Wow. 2005.9620 1627 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2006.1277 and it didn't do any better and that the water was coming and it was coming fast. 2009.8651 1628 PRV_int_01 2009.9361 Yeah. 2010.2769 1629 PRV_int_01 2010.2769 (pause 0.99) 2011.2709 1630 PRV_int_01 2011.2709 So, what- 2011.8180 1631 PRV_int_01 2011.8180 (pause 0.15) 2011.9667 1632 PRV_int_01 2011.9667 what was your reaction then? 2013.1643 1633 PRV_int_01 2013.1643 (pause 0.34) 2013.5078 1634 PRV_int_01 2013.5078 /inaudible/ 2013.9859 1635 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2014.2273 At that point, I'm going to tell you the truth, I was selfish. The only thing I was thinking about was like, what am I gonna do? I'm losing all of my clothes. I have nothing to wear. 2022.4378 1636 PRV_int_01 2022.5562 Yeah. 2022.8875 1637 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2023.0106 Not thinking that 2023.8437 1638 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2023.8437 (pause 0.31) 2024.1561 1639 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2024.1561 all of my family had gotten out and we were all under the same roof and everybody was okay. I was worried about my [clothes.] 2029.6443 1640 PRV_int_01 2029.2804 [Mm-hm.] 2029.8626 1641 PRV_int_01 2030.9513 How old were you then? 2031.7500 1642 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2032.0049 I was 2032.6249 1643 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2032.6249 (pause 1.07) 2033.6994 1644 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2033.6994 nineteen. I was gonna turn twenty that next week. 2036.0851 1645 PRV_int_01 2036.0709 Okay. 2036.4732 1646 PRV_int_01 2036.6152 Okay. 2036.9892 1647 PRV_int_01 2036.9892 (pause 0.99) 2037.9812 1648 PRV_int_01 2037.9812 So yeah- so- so you were 2039.4486 1649 PRV_int_01 2039.4486 (pause 0.21) 2039.6568 1650 PRV_int_01 2039.6568 kind of worried about your [clothes?] 2041.0674 1651 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2040.6224 [I was-] that's the only thing I was worried about. 2042.6531 1652 PRV_int_01 2042.7762 And they wouldn't let anybody back into town [/would they/?] 2044.9799 1653 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2044.3788 [No.] 2044.8285 1654 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2045.0036 No. 2045.2782 1655 PRV_int_01 2045.9929 So then what- 2046.6745 1656 PRV_int_01 2046.6745 (pause 0.18) 2046.8497 1657 PRV_int_01 2046.8497 so then- 2047.3987 1658 PRV_int_01 2047.3987 (pause 0.11) 2047.5076 1659 PRV_int_01 2047.5076 so then you just kind of heard 2048.8566 1660 PRV_int_01 2048.8566 (pause 0.56) 2049.4179 1661 PRV_int_01 2049.4179 [about it.] 2050.0711 1662 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2049.6072 [Heard about] what happened but 2051.1977 1663 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2051.6663 because I hadn't seen it, I didn't know how bad- They said it was bad, but I hadn't seen it for myself so I'm still thinking 2056.8711 1664 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2056.8711 (pause 0.59) 2057.4580 1665 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2057.4580 maybe half of my house 2059.0958 1666 PRV_int_01 2059.4697 Mm-hm. 2059.8531 1667 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2059.9241 is under water. 2060.8330 1668 PRV_int_01 2061.2475 Yeah. 2061.6214 1669 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2061.5883 And then when they showed it on TV where you couldn't see anything but water and power lines, that's when it really hit me that okay, everything is gone. 2067.9765 1670 PRV_int_01 2068.0711 Yeah. 2068.4025 1671 PRV_int_01 2068.4025 (pause 1.04) 2069.4391 1672 PRV_int_01 2069.4391 And the- 2069.7184 1673 PRV_int_01 2069.7184 (pause 0.47) 2070.1870 1674 PRV_int_01 2070.1870 so what- 2070.7076 1675 PRV_int_01 2070.7076 (pause 0.24) 2070.9491 1676 PRV_int_01 2070.9491 so that was kind of some sort of like, 2072.9560 1677 PRV_int_01 2072.9560 (pause 1.14) 2074.0995 1678 PRV_int_01 2074.0995 it hit hard. 2074.8663 1679 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2074.9421 I think I cried for three days. 2076.6130 1680 PRV_int_01 2076.6650 Really? 2077.0485 1681 PRV_int_01 2077.0485 (pause 1.14) 2078.1845 1682 PRV_int_01 2078.1845 /??/ I'm sure everybody was upset. 2080.0191 1683 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2080.2037 Everybody was, yeah. 2081.2876 1684 PRV_int_01 2081.1929 Yeah. 2081.5148 1685 PRV_int_01 2082.1112 But you /?/- you were all together. 2083.7490 1686 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2083.9478 We were all [together.] 2084.7789 1687 PRV_int_01 2084.5943 [You] and your family. 2085.3706 1688 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2085.3469 Mm-hm. 2085.6404 1689 PRV_int_01 2085.9055 How did you make it through that time, like with them? 2087.7610 1690 PRV_int_01 2087.7610 (pause 1.59) 2089.3467 1691 PRV_int_01 2089.3467 You remember those times? 2090.4212 1692 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2091.2617 2091.3706 1693 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2091.3706 (pause 1.38) 2092.7527 1694 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2092.7527 Basically she set everything up like an assembly line 2096.4685 1695 PRV_int_01 2096.5632 [Okay.] 2097.0223 1696 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2096.7998 [because it] was so many people in the house, like, x amount of people had um, 2100.7929 1697 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2102.1371 cars. And it's like certain times that they would open up the grocery stores and you had to line up to go in the grocery stores, and the water was off. 2108.7241 1698 PRV_int_01 2108.9655 Mm-hm. 2109.3347 1699 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2109.4132 Um, 2110.0191 1700 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2110.0191 (pause 0.99) 2111.0083 1701 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2111.0083 people down the street had a well so we would take turns 2114.2602 1702 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2114.2602 (pause 0.38) 2114.6389 1703 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2114.6389 getting the water. 2115.5477 1704 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2115.5477 (pause 0.52) 2116.0664 1705 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2116.0664 Um, 2116.6723 1706 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2116.6723 (pause 0.47) 2117.1456 1707 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2117.1456 we took our baths in shifts. 2118.9680 1708 PRV_int_01 2119.2567 Mm-hm. 2119.6354 1709 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2119.9809 Um, 2120.6247 1710 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2120.6247 (pause 2.03) 2122.6533 1711 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2122.6533 everything was just like an assembly line. And my grandmother being the person that she was, she 2126.9892 1712 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2126.9892 (pause 0.21) 2127.2002 1713 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2127.2002 had one of the bedrooms and all of the kids were in the den- 2130.0734 1714 PRV_int_01 2130.1538 [Okay.] 2130.5704 1715 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2130.1870 [the- the] big room I was telling you about? 2131.8484 1716 PRV_int_01 2131.8153 Uh-huh. 2132.2129 1717 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2132.2839 And to keep us from disturbing 2133.8108 1718 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2133.8108 (pause 0.65) 2134.4640 1719 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2134.4640 my grandmother, she had a refrigerator 2136.4568 1720 PRV_int_01 2136.9633 [Okay.] 2137.4224 1721 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2137.2047 [put] down there and there was a bathroom already attached to that den, so we had no reason to come past that area 2142.7076 1722 PRV_int_01 2143.0011 Okay. 2143.3656 1723 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2143.6354 messing with my grandmother. [Cause like], don't bother her. When she gets in her little mood, just leave her alone. Everything you need is right here in this room. You shouldn't have to leave for anything. 2150.9635 1724 PRV_int_01 2144.7978 [Yeah.] 2145.1434 1725 PRV_int_01 2150.9777 Mm-hm. 2151.3090 1726 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2151.6167 Cause she would complain about the 2153.1172 1727 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2153.1172 (pause 1.71) 2154.8307 1728 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2154.8307 smallest noise [that she] would hear. 2156.9797 1729 PRV_int_01 2156.0756 [Mm-hm.] 2156.5158 1730 PRV_int_01 2157.1292 Mm-hm. 2157.5031 1731 PRV_int_01 2157.5031 (pause 1.33) 2158.8285 1732 PRV_int_01 2158.8285 So you- so kind of like an assembly line. 2161.1857 1733 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2161.3419 Everything was an assembly line for nine months. 2163.6072 1734 PRV_int_01 2163.8771 /Yeah, at the house./ 2164.6533 1735 PRV_int_01 2164.6533 (pause 0.64) 2165.2971 1736 PRV_int_01 2165.2971 Uh, /someone/ was telling me 2166.8402 1737 PRV_int_01 2166.8402 (pause 1.00) 2167.8389 1738 PRV_int_01 2167.8389 y'all got up at certain [times /and had-/] 2169.8534 1739 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2169.1312 [Mm-hm.] 2169.5619 1740 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2169.8581 Cause you had to get up four o'clock in the morning just to stand in line for the grocery store because stuff was getting gone just that quick. 2175.0886 1741 PRV_int_01 2175.1623 Wow. 2175.4672 1742 PRV_int_01 2175.4672 (pause 1.01) 2176.4782 1743 PRV_int_01 2176.4782 And so /inaudible/ we were saying 2178.2958 1744 PRV_int_01 2178.2958 (pause 0.29) 2178.5893 1745 PRV_int_01 2178.5893 if you woke up late or something, kind of threw the whole thing off. [] 2182.0712 1746 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2181.6309 [There was] no waking up late. 2182.9515 1747 PRV_int_01 2182.8805 [] Someone will wake you up. [] 2186.6105 1748 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2183.1598 [] 2184.0118 1749 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2184.0118 (pause 0.92) 2184.9349 1750 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2184.9349 [There was no waking up late.] 2186.2507 1751 PRV_int_01 2187.1548 Yeah. Wow. 2187.9244 1752 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2187.8818 And she would tell you the night before, okay, this is how who has to do this today, and I'm not playing. You will get up at this time, 2193.7500 1753 PRV_int_01 2194.6060 2195.0178 1754 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2195.4012 to 2195.6616 1755 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2195.6616 (pause 0.12) 2195.7846 1756 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2195.7846 get everything done. 2196.7360 1757 PRV_int_01 2196.7597 Yeah. 2197.1431 1758 PRV_int_01 2197.1431 (pause 0.96) 2198.1040 1759 PRV_int_01 2198.1040 So then when you finally got a chance to go back into Princeville, 2201.4344 1760 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2201.4296 Mm-hm. 2201.8036 1761 PRV_int_01 2201.7468 what was that like? 2202.4710 1762 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2203.2520 Um, they had on the news that 2204.8992 1763 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2204.8992 (pause 0.20) 2205.0980 1764 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2205.0980 if 2205.3915 1765 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2205.3915 (pause 0.83) 2206.2226 1766 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2206.2226 your clothes were still in your room that they could be washed 2209.0343 1767 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2209.0343 (pause 0.23) 2209.2615 1768 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2209.2615 in ammonia, 2209.9904 1769 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2209.9904 (pause 1.10) 2211.0933 1770 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2211.0933 and when I got back 2212.3646 1771 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2212.3646 (pause 0.13) 2212.4971 1772 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2212.4971 to Princeville, the contractors that were supposed to have been tearing down the house, 2216.1703 1773 PRV_int_01 2216.2602 Mm-hm. 2216.5726 1774 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2217.9859 tell him I'll call him back. 2219.0462 1775 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2219.0462 (pause 0.19) 2219.2356 1776 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2219.2356 Is it /RD-NAME-2/? 2219.9834 1777 misc 2221.2189 /inaudible/ 2222.0898 1778 PRV_int_01 2222.0945 You can take that if you want to. 2223.4104 1779 PRV_int_01 2223.4104 (pause 0.37) 2223.7777 1780 PRV_int_01 2223.7777 Of course. 2224.2321 1781 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2224.1658 2224.4924 1782 misc 2224.4829 /inaudible/ 2225.6805 1783 misc 2226.7644 Um. 2227.2094 1784 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2228.5584 Okay. 2228.8803 1785 PRV_int_01 2229.0460 So your clothes 2229.9339 1786 PRV_int_01 2229.9339 (pause 0.17) 2230.1043 1787 PRV_int_01 2230.1043 /?/- 2230.3315 1788 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2230.6912 Yeah when I got back in the house, the contractors that were supposed to been condemning the house, 2234.5442 1789 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2234.5442 (pause 0.18) 2234.7241 1790 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2234.7241 they were in there stealing. 2235.7966 1791 PRV_int_01 2235.8581 Mm-hm. 2236.3315 1792 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2236.4687 I'm not saying that they stole my stuff, but when I looked down the hall, they had armful of stuff. 2240.4543 1793 PRV_int_01 2240.3975 Wow. 2240.7241 1794 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2241.1122 Um, 2241.6092 1795 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2241.6092 (pause 0.36) 2241.9670 1796 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2241.9670 but when I went in my room the only thing that was left in my room was a bed. 2245.1384 1797 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2245.1384 (pause 0.15) 2245.2851 1798 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2245.2851 I had a- 2245.7490 1799 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2245.7490 (pause 0.38) 2246.1324 1800 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2246.1324 two trunks full of sweaters. 2247.6120 1801 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2247.6120 (pause 1.06) 2248.6675 1802 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2248.6675 I had two closets and there was nothing in either one of [my] closets, so someone /vandal-/ 2253.2164 1803 PRV_int_01 2251.5691 [Hm.] 2251.8437 1804 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2253.4700 And I mean it was just that quick. It's the same day that they opened Princeville back up, we got up and we went over there. My stuff was gone just that quick. 2259.7919 1805 PRV_int_01 2259.8155 Mm. 2260.2084 1806 PRV_int_01 2260.2084 (pause 0.22) 2260.4309 1807 PRV_int_01 2260.4309 Wow. 2260.7101 1808 PRV_int_01 2260.7101 (pause 1.05) 2261.7610 1809 PRV_int_01 2261.7610 Okay. 2262.2326 1810 PRV_int_01 2262.2326 (pause 0.37) 2262.6035 1811 PRV_int_01 2262.6035 So 2262.9822 1812 PRV_int_01 2262.9822 (pause 0.30) 2263.2851 1813 PRV_int_01 2263.2851 so then 2263.9573 1814 PRV_int_01 2263.9573 (pause 0.75) 2264.7099 1815 PRV_int_01 2264.7099 you kind of- 2265.2744 1816 PRV_int_01 2265.2744 (pause 0.21) 2265.4889 1817 PRV_int_01 2265.4889 from that point just kind of had to start from scratch? 2267.6905 1818 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2267.6710 Had to start over. That's when FEMA 2269.7253 1819 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2270.5490 came in 2271.1927 1820 PRV_int_01 2271.3090 Mm-hm. 2271.6830 1821 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2272.2368 and they would ask you questions about a- 2274.5846 1822 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2274.5846 (pause 0.21) 2274.7976 1823 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2274.7976 about how much money do you think you had spent on your clothes, and when I told 'em they didn't believe me but I kept receipts of [everything. So] 2281.0911 1824 PRV_int_01 2280.7076 [Mm-hm.] 2281.1459 1825 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2281.5644 they didn't send me 2282.3880 1826 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2282.3880 (pause 0.78) 2283.1718 1827 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2283.1718 all of it 2283.9055 1828 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2283.9055 (pause 0.33) 2284.2368 1829 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2284.2368 but they sent me enough to get my- 2286.3574 1830 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2286.3574 (pause 0.23) 2286.5846 1831 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2286.5846 my wardrobe started again. And then my job 2288.7525 1832 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2288.7525 (pause 0.74) 2289.4889 1833 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2289.4889 um, 2289.9575 1834 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2289.9575 (pause 0.83) 2290.7906 1835 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2290.7906 gave me some money also. 2292.4899 1836 PRV_int_01 2292.6887 Uh-huh. 2293.0863 1837 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2293.5123 So that was 2294.1371 1838 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2294.1371 (pause 0.40) 2294.5348 1839 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2294.5348 more than enough for me to 2295.9528 1840 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2295.9528 (pause 1.43) 2297.3870 1841 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2297.3870 get my- 2298.0308 1842 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2298.0308 (pause 0.23) 2298.2580 1843 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2298.2580 my 2298.5514 1844 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2298.5514 (pause 0.53) 2299.0816 1845 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2299.0816 closet started back [up again.] 2300.7288 1846 PRV_int_01 2300.2886 [Okay.] 2300.7809 1847 PRV_int_01 2301.9007 /inaudible/ 2302.4735 1848 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2302.4498 Was buying plenty clothes and still didn't have anywhere to put 'em because [I was] still in her house. 2306.6334 1849 PRV_int_01 2305.3987 [Yeah.] 2305.7301 1850 PRV_int_01 2305.7301 (pause 0.88) 2306.6105 1851 PRV_int_01 2306.6105 Okay. 2307.1122 1852 PRV_int_01 2307.7445 Well that's true. 2308.3267 1853 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2308.5255 2309.4675 1854 PRV_int_01 2309.7231 But hey you're- you know, you're a fashion designer, you [got to have-] 2312.3359 1855 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2311.5218 [] 2312.2176 1856 PRV_int_01 2312.6200 got to have your clothes, /right/? 2314.6344 1857 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2314.5634 Everybody used the same closet. 2316.2343 1858 PRV_int_01 2316.4426 [Yeah.] 2316.7692 1859 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2316.5704 [Also] in that room, 2317.7395 1860 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2318.2839 the den, it- it had a bathroom and it had a walk in closet. 2321.4533 1861 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2321.4533 (pause 0.65) 2322.1018 1862 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2322.1018 H- how many people used that closet? 2323.6875 1863 misc 2325.4416 About eighteen of them. 2326.7243 1864 PRV_int_01 2326.5634 Oh wow. 2327.4628 1865 misc 2327.6947 But we had stackables. 2329.0816 1866 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2329.1526 They had stackables. Everybody had their own stackables [that-] 2331.9575 1867 PRV_int_01 2331.7019 [Mm-hm.] 2332.1279 1868 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2332.2794 with their name on it. You put 2333.6000 1869 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2333.6000 (pause 0.38) 2333.9834 1870 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2333.9834 anything that didn't fit in the- uh- that closet looked like a disaster area. [You just] take and throw stuff in there. There was stuff all over everywhere. 2340.3621 1871 PRV_int_01 2337.3327 [Mm.] 2337.5788 1872 PRV_int_01 2337.5788 (pause 2.63) 2340.2059 1873 PRV_int_01 2340.2059 Mm-hm-hm. 2340.9585 1874 PRV_int_01 2342.3738 Wow. 2342.7383 1875 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2342.8546 We had some cousins that were complaining about, you have on my outfit. It was like, okay, we only have two so we have to [switch up. We can't look] the same every day. 2350.0143 1876 PRV_int_01 2348.2535 [] 2349.0724 1877 PRV_int_01 2350.0333 Right. 2350.4119 1878 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2350.6297 [] 2351.3397 1879 PRV_int_01 2350.9989 [] 2351.5622 1880 PRV_int_01 2352.0308 2352.7360 1881 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2352.8118 It was a- it was a lot of sharing clothes. [And if] it didn't fit, we made it fit. 2356.7291 1882 PRV_int_01 2354.8262 [Mm-hm.] 2355.2333 1883 PRV_int_01 2356.8900 Yeah. 2357.0983 1884 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2357.0225 2357.5858 1885 PRV_int_01 2358.3479 So you said FEMA came in and then 2360.2113 1886 PRV_int_01 2360.2113 (pause 0.64) 2360.8519 1887 PRV_int_01 2360.8519 that's when you- 2361.4984 1888 PRV_int_01 2361.4984 (pause 0.85) 2362.3457 1889 PRV_int_01 2362.3457 you got some- some help to- to rebuild [houses?] 2365.2047 1890 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2364.8686 [Mm-hm.] 2365.2378 1891 PRV_int_01 2365.6922 You know, 2366.0898 1892 PRV_int_01 2366.0898 (pause 0.27) 2366.3644 1893 PRV_int_01 2366.3644 how did that work? 2367.1738 1894 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2367.6546 2367.7635 1895 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2367.7635 (pause 0.41) 2368.1705 1896 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2368.1705 It was a long drawn out process. It's a lot of stuff you had to go through. A lot of people 2373.1643 1897 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2373.1643 (pause 0.33) 2373.4936 1898 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2373.4936 got grants. 2374.4261 1899 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2374.4261 (pause 0.68) 2375.1030 1900 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2375.1030 I don't think it was fair the way they did it because a lot of the younger people that could get out and work, 2379.3469 1901 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2379.3469 (pause 0.15) 2379.4936 1902 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2379.4936 they received grants and they gave a lot of these elderly people loans. 2383.0248 1903 PRV_int_01 2383.1053 Mm-hm. 2383.4650 1904 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2383.4271 Thirty year loans. 2384.4590 1905 PRV_int_01 2384.7572 Yeah. 2385.0791 1906 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2385.0629 I mean tomorrow's not promised to anyone but I still thought it was unfair. 2388.6745 1907 PRV_int_01 2388.7218 Yeah. 2389.0769 1908 PRV_int_01 2389.0769 (pause 1.86) 2390.9324 1909 PRV_int_01 2390.9324 So- so you family got 2392.5871 1910 PRV_int_01 2392.5871 (pause 0.39) 2392.9752 1911 PRV_int_01 2392.9752 enough that- your- you said your mother 2394.7929 1912 PRV_int_01 2394.7929 (pause 0.51) 2395.3041 1913 PRV_int_01 2395.3041 was- 2395.6307 1914 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2395.8105 My mother, she received 2397.6214 1915 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2397.6214 (pause 2.92) 2400.5372 1916 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2400.5372 /mixing/ a partial loan and a partial grant and my grandmother 2403.7256 1917 PRV_int_01 2403.8818 Mm-hm. 2404.3186 1918 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2404.9042 had a loan. 2405.5820 1919 PRV_int_01 2405.7184 Mm-hm. 2406.1065 1920 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2406.3006 And I didn't think that was fair 2407.8200 1921 PRV_int_01 2407.8295 Mm-hm. 2408.2744 1922 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2408.2223 to her. 2408.6152 1923 PRV_int_01 2409.4321 Now what street was- um- were these two houses on? 2412.0781 1924 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2412.0876 Um, Church Street and Walston Street. [They're] 2414.3359 1925 PRV_int_01 2414.0614 [Okay.] 2414.5064 1926 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2414.6673 adjoining streets. 2415.7500 1927 PRV_int_01 2415.6593 Okay. 2415.9859 1928 PRV_int_01 2416.2936 Yeah I think I know where Church Street is. 2418.0970 1929 PRV_int_01 2418.0970 (pause 0.40) 2418.4946 1930 PRV_int_01 2418.4946 Mkay. 2418.9538 1931 PRV_int_01 2418.9538 (pause 0.92) 2419.8768 1932 PRV_int_01 2419.8768 And so that whole thing would have /??/ allowed the people of that neighborhood to move back in or? 2424.2911 1933 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2424.4284 I can name 2425.4603 1934 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2425.4603 (pause 0.28) 2425.7442 1935 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2425.7442 one, two, three, 2427.3706 1936 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2427.3706 (pause 0.74) 2428.1137 1937 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2428.1137 four 2428.5019 1938 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2428.5019 (pause 0.31) 2428.8143 1939 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2428.8143 on that street 2429.4675 1940 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2429.4675 (pause 0.18) 2429.6474 1941 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2429.6474 [that did] 2430.1491 1942 PRV_int_01 2429.6568 [Mm.] 2429.8840 1943 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2430.3668 out of about thirty houses. 2431.9289 1944 PRV_int_01 2432.0519 Yeah. 2432.3928 1945 PRV_int_01 2432.3928 (pause 0.98) 2433.3753 1946 PRV_int_01 2433.3753 Okay. 2433.8345 1947 PRV_int_01 2433.8345 (pause 0.58) 2434.4167 1948 PRV_int_01 2434.4167 So wow. So not a lot [at all.] 2436.3976 1949 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2435.9371 [Hm.] 2436.2059 1950 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2436.4000 Mm-mm. 2436.9680 1951 PRV_int_01 2437.4792 And- and what did- 2438.2839 1952 PRV_int_01 2438.2839 (pause 0.35) 2438.6342 1953 PRV_int_01 2438.6342 were you 2439.0176 1954 PRV_int_01 2439.0176 (pause 0.44) 2439.4605 1955 PRV_int_01 2439.4605 trying to encourage people to move back in? Or what did you think about- 2442.2106 1956 PRV_int_01 2442.2106 (pause 0.92) 2443.1289 1957 PRV_int_01 2443.1289 No? 2443.5786 1958 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2444.6815 I mean cause m- people really had their minds pretty much made up. 2447.6284 1959 PRV_int_01 2448.1822 That they weren't gonna move [back?] 2449.2946 1960 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2449.0248 [That they] weren't gonna move back. And my grandmother was one of 'em. She was dead set 2452.8048 1961 PRV_int_01 2452.7906 Mm-hm. 2453.1361 1962 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2453.5480 on- 2453.8320 1963 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2453.8320 (pause 0.17) 2453.9976 1964 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2453.9976 on not going back. 2455.0437 1965 PRV_int_01 2455.1810 Yeah. 2455.4697 1966 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2455.8153 [Cause-] 2456.1229 1967 PRV_int_01 2455.8295 [What about] the mother? Was she tryna encourage people to move back in or? 2459.0036 1968 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2458.8805 She was more concerned about getting herself back. [She didn't] care less whether anybody else came or not. 2463.7500 1969 PRV_int_01 2461.0485 [Yeah.] 2461.4224 1970 PRV_int_01 2464.0238 [Yeah.] 2464.2794 1971 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2464.1895 [She] was like I'm moving back to Princeville if you all don't wanna go, that's fine with me. I'll move by myself. 2468.0993 1972 PRV_int_01 2468.0993 Mm. 2468.4070 1973 PRV_int_01 2468.4070 (pause 0.19) 2468.6010 1974 PRV_int_01 2468.6010 Mkay. 2468.9939 1975 PRV_int_01 2468.9939 (pause 0.28) 2469.2712 1976 PRV_int_01 2469.2712 Mkay. 2469.7682 1977 PRV_int_01 2469.7682 (pause 1.37) 2471.1409 1978 PRV_int_01 2471.1409 So yeah. 2472.0166 1979 PRV_int_01 2472.0166 (pause 0.35) 2472.3668 1980 PRV_int_01 2472.3668 What- did she say anything about- yeah, I guess she was concerned about her 2476.0901 1981 PRV_int_01 2476.0901 (pause 0.21) 2476.3031 1982 PRV_int_01 2476.3031 house /?/. 2477.0699 1983 PRV_int_01 2477.0699 (pause 0.31) 2477.3776 1984 PRV_int_01 2477.3776 Moving back in cause her grandfather 2478.9775 1985 PRV_int_01 2478.9775 (pause 0.57) 2479.5455 1986 PRV_int_01 2479.5455 you said, left that land [for her?] 2481.1102 1987 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2480.7525 [Mm-hm.] 2481.1738 1988 PRV_int_01 2481.7919 Mkay. 2482.1563 1989 PRV_int_01 2482.1563 (pause 1.15) 2483.3066 1990 PRV_int_01 2483.3066 So eventually- 2484.4426 1991 PRV_int_01 2484.4426 (pause 0.69) 2485.1337 1992 PRV_int_01 2485.1337 so eventually th- that- she did get 2487.4341 1993 PRV_int_01 2487.4341 (pause 0.63) 2488.0664 1994 PRV_int_01 2488.0664 kind of rebuilt right? 2489.2403 1995 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2489.2356 It did, but it's a whole bunch of new people. 2491.4082 1996 PRV_int_01 2491.4271 A lot of new [people.] 2492.2776 1997 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2491.9951 [A lot] of new [people.] 2493.2495 1998 PRV_int_01 2492.8990 [/?/] 2493.3141 1999 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2493.5220 People from 2494.4214 2000 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2494.4214 (pause 1.11) 2495.5338 2001 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2495.5338 Tarboro 2496.1917 2002 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2496.1917 (pause 1.67) 2497.8626 2003 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2497.8626 taking up the opportunities that the Princeville people had. 2501.0935 2004 PRV_int_01 2501.1456 Mm-hm. 2501.4296 2005 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2501.3870 But it was a lot of people in East Tarboro that flooded too, so a lot of them 2504.6010 2006 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2505.2806 saw 2505.6972 2007 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2505.6972 (pause 0.17) 2505.8676 2008 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2505.8676 all the new houses [and things] that were coming up in Princeville and they just moved over here. It's like forget the East Tarboro and Princeville stuff, this is where 2512.5918 2009 PRV_int_01 2506.9752 [Yeah.] 2507.3350 2010 PRV_int_01 2512.9326 Yeah. 2513.2119 2011 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2513.1598 we're moving to. 2513.9598 2012 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2514.6461 Cause I can say that the houses that they build in Princeville are a lot nicer than the ones that they threw together 2519.6048 2013 PRV_int_01 2519.7894 Mm-hm. 2520.2485 2014 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2520.2816 in East Tarboro. It's like, 2521.2567 2015 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2521.2567 (pause 1.20) 2522.4590 2016 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2522.4590 like they put up four walls and a roof in two days. 2525.1598 2017 PRV_int_01 2525.1645 Mm-hm. 2525.5432 2018 PRV_int_01 2525.5432 (pause 1.69) 2527.2331 2019 PRV_int_01 2527.2331 What is there to do around here? 2528.5206 2020 PRV_int_01 2528.5206 (pause 0.42) 2528.9446 2021 PRV_int_01 2528.9446 Like for 2529.5410 2022 PRV_int_01 2529.5410 (pause 0.89) 2530.4309 2023 PRV_int_01 2530.4309 people your age? 2531.3945 2024 PRV_int_01 2531.3945 (pause 1.34) 2532.7360 2025 PRV_int_01 2532.7360 I don't know, /inaudible/ kind of thing that- things people do around here? 2535.9528 2026 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2535.9954 A lot of people really look forward to Fridays because that's when the football or basketball games, but it's basically, 2543.0557 2027 PRV_int_01 2543.1882 Mm. 2543.4486 2028 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2543.5811 that's it. And you would really be shocked that people hang out at Walmart. 2547.0270 2029 PRV_int_01 2547.0696 Really? 2547.4246 2030 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2547.4321 You go to Walmart right now, you see so many people and they're not buying anything. 2550.8733 2031 PRV_int_01 2550.9680 They're just kind of hanging out. 2552.0519 2032 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2551.9431 But people that have licenses 2553.6214 2033 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2553.9812 to Rocky Mount. It's just 2555.3492 2034 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2555.3492 (pause 0.35) 2555.6947 2035 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2555.6947 twenty minutes. /It's-/ 2556.7786 2036 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2556.7786 (pause 0.24) 2557.0153 2037 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2557.0153 go to the mall or the- or the movies there. 2559.0866 2038 PRV_int_01 2559.1434 [Okay.] 2559.6451 2039 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2559.2759 [But for the] people that is just basically stuck here, 2561.5148 2040 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2562.5183 Friday is their only outlet. 2564.1419 2041 PRV_int_01 2564.3028 The football game and stuff. Okay. 2566.5113 2042 PRV_int_01 2566.5113 (pause 0.42) 2566.9279 2043 PRV_int_01 2566.9279 What kind of stuff do you 2568.0592 2044 PRV_int_01 2568.0592 (pause 0.52) 2568.5798 2045 PRV_int_01 2568.5798 do socially? 2569.5975 2046 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2570.8945 I would 2571.3110 2047 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2571.3110 (pause 1.03) 2572.3457 2048 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2572.3457 go the games or 2573.8935 2049 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2573.8935 (pause 1.02) 2574.9112 2050 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2574.9112 to the movies 2576.0851 2051 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2576.0851 (pause 0.78) 2576.8661 2052 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2576.8661 or the mall. 2577.4625 2053 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2577.4625 (pause 0.19) 2577.6546 2054 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2577.6546 This is all in 2578.3457 2055 PRV_int_01 2578.5634 In Rocky [Mount.] 2579.1882 2056 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2579.0415 Rocky Mount or I would go to Raleigh 2581.1147 2057 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2581.9809 to see my sister or either to Greensboro to see her daughter. 2585.0225 2058 PRV_int_01 2585.1598 Okay. 2585.5906 2059 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2587.3609 And I have- 2587.7490 2060 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2587.7490 (pause 0.24) 2587.9857 2061 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2587.9857 I have a cousin at UNC Chapel Hill so it's basically visiting them because there's really nothing to do here. 2593.4035 2062 PRV_int_01 2593.4319 Okay. 2593.9099 2063 PRV_int_01 2593.9099 (pause 0.90) 2594.8093 2064 PRV_int_01 2594.8093 There's a lot of people- young people- just kind of say that 2597.1077 2065 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2597.2024 Mm-hm. 2597.5196 2066 PRV_int_01 2597.6284 /inaudible/. 2598.4237 2067 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2599.5218 But they're not doing anything or trying to get out of here. They would rather stay here, not have anything to do than go somewhere and find something to do. 2605.4177 2068 PRV_int_01 2605.4082 Okay. 2605.7727 2069 PRV_int_01 2606.8377 Okay. 2607.4327 2070 PRV_int_01 2607.4327 (pause 0.15) 2607.5788 2071 PRV_int_01 2607.5788 /??/ 2608.1989 2072 PRV_int_01 2608.1989 (pause 0.59) 2608.7859 2073 PRV_int_01 2608.7859 What do you think- 2609.6805 2074 PRV_int_01 2609.6805 (pause 0.49) 2610.1728 2075 PRV_int_01 2610.1728 I know this is probably /inaudible/ 2613.0554 2076 PRV_int_01 2613.0554 (pause 0.58) 2613.6404 2077 PRV_int_01 2613.6404 /inaudible/ fair question but 2615.9929 2078 PRV_int_01 2615.9929 (pause 0.62) 2616.6082 2079 PRV_int_01 2616.6082 if you- 2617.1100 2080 PRV_int_01 2617.1100 (pause 0.17) 2617.2757 2081 PRV_int_01 2617.2757 can you 2617.9005 2082 PRV_int_01 2617.9005 (pause 0.39) 2618.2933 2083 PRV_int_01 2618.2933 present the future to me? What do you think the future of Princeville is like? I mean where do you think- 2622.4710 2084 PRV_int_01 2622.4710 (pause 0.89) 2623.3561 2085 PRV_int_01 2623.3561 five, ten years down the road, what- what's it gonna be like in Princeville? 2627.0462 2086 PRV_int_01 2627.0462 (pause 0.32) 2627.3681 2087 PRV_int_01 2627.3681 Or just this- 2628.1633 2088 PRV_int_01 2628.1633 (pause 0.15) 2628.3100 2089 PRV_int_01 2628.3100 this area, do you- do you have any- 2629.8247 2090 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2630.0993 If they don't get the right people 2632.0191 2091 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2632.0191 (pause 0.44) 2632.4640 2092 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2632.4640 in there to try to run it, 2633.6426 2093 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2633.6426 (pause 0.87) 2634.5088 2094 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2634.5088 I honestly see Tarboro taking it over. 2636.8472 2095 PRV_int_01 2637.0771 Really? 2637.5741 2096 PRV_int_01 2637.5741 (pause 0.40) 2637.9765 2097 PRV_int_01 2637.9765 Yeah. 2638.2841 2098 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2638.1942 That's where they're headed. 2639.2308 2099 misc 2640.1917 Mm-hm. 2640.7266 2100 PRV_int_01 2641.1337 2641.6496 2101 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2641.6070 That's exactly where they're headed. 2642.9418 2102 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2643.1670 Because they can't- 2644.3930 2103 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2644.3930 (pause 0.61) 2644.9989 2104 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2644.9989 it's like we have to- well, Princeville has to pay 2647.4603 2105 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2647.4603 (pause 0.17) 2647.6307 2106 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2647.6307 Tarboro for their water and when it's time to pay them they don't have all the money. With as much as they charge 2653.2804 2107 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2653.2804 (pause 0.31) 2653.5928 2108 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2653.5928 for the water bill over there 2654.7478 2109 PRV_int_01 2654.9730 [Mm.] 2655.2286 2110 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2655.0534 [they should] have the money. 2656.1137 2111 PRV_int_01 2656.2889 [Mm-hm.] 2656.6817 2112 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2656.5019 [And] 2656.7575 2113 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2656.9231 they're always thousands and thousands of dollars short. 2659.5313 2114 PRV_int_01 2659.6969 [Mm.] 2660.0425 2115 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2659.9383 [With] anything they have to pay Tarboro for, 2661.8629 2116 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2662.1421 they're always short. 2663.0935 2117 PRV_int_01 2663.1977 Mm. 2663.4580 2118 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2663.4107 And want- 2663.8320 2119 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2664.2485 want an extension 2665.3088 2120 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2665.3088 (pause 0.67) 2665.9809 2121 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2665.9809 on paying them, but I honestly 2667.7500 2122 PRV_int_01 2668.4261 Yeah. 2668.7669 2123 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2668.6770 see Tarboro taking Princeville over. 2670.7436 2124 PRV_int_01 2670.8639 Hm. 2671.2141 2125 PRV_int_01 2671.2141 (pause 0.44) 2671.6543 2126 PRV_int_01 2671.6543 Wow. 2671.9857 2127 PRV_int_01 2671.9857 (pause 0.81) 2672.7998 2128 PRV_int_01 2672.7998 What do you think about that in terms of 2674.8095 2129 PRV_int_01 2674.8095 (pause 0.21) 2675.0225 2130 PRV_int_01 2675.0225 you know, /inaudible/? 2677.2899 2131 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2677.5644 There's really nothing I can- 2678.8898 2132 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2678.8898 (pause 0.29) 2679.1812 2133 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2679.1812 can do about it because I really see it happening. 2681.7373 2134 PRV_int_01 2681.8272 [Mm-hm.] 2682.2958 2135 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2681.9124 [I mean if] that's the only way to get them to progress, then I don't see a problem with it because I don't live there [anymore.] 2688.2958 2136 PRV_int_01 2688.0166 [Mm-hm.] 2688.4946 2137 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2689.1763 But something needs to be done. 2690.6302 2138 PRV_int_01 2690.6890 Mm-hm. 2691.1008 2139 PRV_int_01 2691.1008 (pause 0.68) 2691.7777 2140 PRV_int_01 2691.7777 What's- 2692.2557 2141 PRV_int_01 2692.2557 (pause 0.25) 2692.5066 2142 PRV_int_01 2692.5066 the- 2692.7764 2143 PRV_int_01 2692.7764 (pause 0.24) 2693.0131 2144 PRV_int_01 2693.0131 thinking about like the hist- historical significance of Princeville being the first 2697.1075 2145 PRV_int_01 2697.1075 (pause 0.58) 2697.6877 2146 PRV_int_01 2697.6877 uh, town settled by African American and everything, what- 2700.6603 2147 PRV_int_01 2700.6603 (pause 0.99) 2701.6496 2148 PRV_int_01 2701.6496 was that impressed upon you growing up [or?] 2704.2179 2149 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2703.8581 [Mm-hm.] 2704.2605 2150 PRV_int_01 2704.7527 Was it im- 2705.4770 2151 PRV_int_01 2705.4770 (pause 0.22) 2705.6994 2152 PRV_int_01 2705.6994 was it /inaudible/ your grandmother, your parents, /inaudible/? 2709.7587 2153 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2709.9812 Mm-hm. 2710.3457 2154 PRV_int_01 2710.4309 Do you think that's- 2711.1882 2155 PRV_int_01 2711.1882 (pause 0.43) 2711.6142 2156 PRV_int_01 2711.6142 I mean is that- do you think that's /?/? 2713.7348 2157 PRV_int_01 2713.7348 (pause 0.50) 2714.2365 2158 PRV_int_01 2714.2365 Something that's important to people that live in the area? 2716.6155 2159 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2716.6439 I think they don't even think about it. They don't care. 2718.6840 2160 PRV_int_01 2718.9396 Mm-hm. 2719.4413 2161 misc 2719.9052 Very true. 2720.6010 2162 PRV_int_01 2720.7998 Why do you think that is? 2722.0049 2163 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2724.7834 2725.1952 2164 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2725.1952 (pause 0.44) 2725.6307 2165 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2725.6307 Half of the people 2726.6152 2166 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2726.6152 (pause 0.30) 2726.9134 2167 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2726.9134 in Princeville, to me, 2728.5729 2168 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2728.5729 (pause 0.62) 2729.1882 2169 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2729.1882 not to sound uppity or anything, 2731.0153 2170 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2731.0153 (pause 0.55) 2731.5691 2171 PRV_se0_ag1_m_01 2731.5691 but they're uneducated. They know about this stuff, but it's just like, I don't care. Wh- what is that doing for me? What does that have to do with me? 2738.5442 2172 PRV_int_01 2738.5868 Mm. 2738.9324 2173 PRV_int_01 2738.9324 (pause 1.92) 2740.8474 2174 PRV_int_01 2740.8474 So it's just kind of 2741.9910 2175 PRV_int_01 2741.9910 (pause 0.48) 2742.4710 2176 PRV_int_01 2742.4710 apathy. 2743.1429