Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 PRV_int_01 0.6917 In terms of what we're doing, you feel 2.1614 2 PRV_int_01 2.1614 (pause 0.19) 2.3491 3 PRV_int_01 2.3491 pretty comfortable- familiar- familiar with what we're doing? 4.6736 4 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 6.0178 If you got to talk about Princeville. 7.5315 5 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 7.5315 (pause 0.14) 7.6712 6 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 7.6712 [] 8.3981 7 PRV_int_01 7.6752 [Yeah.] 7.9388 8 PRV_int_01 8.6178 I [think we] uh, 9.9038 9 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 8.9173 [Yeah.] 9.1889 10 PRV_int_01 10.0339 you know, we- 10.3974 11 PRV_int_01 10.3974 (pause 0.76) 11.1602 12 PRV_int_01 11.1602 we- we're just preserving 12.4702 13 PRV_int_01 12.4702 (pause 0.50) 12.9734 14 PRV_int_01 12.9734 for the- for the oral history project at least. It, um- 15.2898 15 PRV_int_01 15.2898 (pause 0.62) 15.9072 16 PRV_int_01 15.9072 just preserving the- the people of the town from this time and, uh, 19.6454 17 PRV_int_01 19.6454 (pause 0.73) 20.3763 18 PRV_int_01 20.3763 talking about Princeville 21.5008 19 PRV_int_01 21.5008 (pause 0.60) 22.1039 20 PRV_int_01 22.1039 but also 22.5552 21 PRV_int_01 22.5552 (pause 0.32) 22.8787 22 PRV_int_01 22.8787 talking about 23.4858 23 PRV_int_01 23.4858 (pause 0.30) 23.7853 24 PRV_int_01 23.7853 just kind of getting to know people from Princeville at this time so we can kind of put together, um, 28.3047 25 PRV_int_01 28.3047 (pause 0.17) 28.4764 26 PRV_int_01 28.4764 28.6441 27 PRV_int_01 28.6441 (pause 0.45) 29.0914 28 PRV_int_01 29.0914 kind of like a time capsule 30.1977 29 PRV_int_01 30.1977 (pause 0.27) 30.4653 30 PRV_int_01 30.4653 um, through 31.1186 31 PRV_int_01 31.1186 (pause 0.28) 31.3982 32 PRV_int_01 31.3982 the stories 32.1011 33 PRV_int_01 32.1011 (pause 0.13) 32.2329 34 PRV_int_01 32.2329 of [people] 32.7361 35 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 32.3487 [Mm-hm.] 32.7521 36 PRV_int_01 33.4510 who are from here. 34.1539 37 PRV_int_01 34.1539 (pause 0.71) 34.8608 38 PRV_int_01 34.8608 Um, 35.1404 39 PRV_int_01 35.1404 (pause 0.59) 35.7298 40 PRV_int_01 35.7298 I hear that little clicking I don't like. 37.5149 41 PRV_int_01 37.5149 (pause 3.50) 41.0160 42 PRV_int_01 41.0160 /?/ 41.2037 43 PRV_int_01 41.2037 (pause 1.42) 42.6255 44 PRV_int_01 42.6255 It might be a battery. 43.8125 45 PRV_int_01 43.8125 (pause 0.38) 44.1912 46 PRV_int_01 44.1912 There. 44.4610 47 PRV_int_01 44.4610 (pause 0.20) 44.6598 48 PRV_int_01 44.6598 /Unintelligible/ 45.3746 49 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 46.9792 I have, uh, 47.8833 50 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 47.8833 (pause 2.44) 50.3237 51 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 50.3237 fifty units over there that I manage. 52.3118 52 PRV_int_01 52.7141 Oh right, the uh- 53.8407 53 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 53.9448 Apartments. 54.5892 54 PRV_int_01 54.5866 /RD-WORK-4/? 55.7131 55 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 55.7983 Yes /RD-WORK-3/. 56.7829 56 PRV_int_01 56.8208 Okay. 57.3320 57 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 57.2941 Mm-hm. 57.6633 58 PRV_int_01 58.1082 And how long have you been doing that? 59.7129 59 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 60.9294 Well, if I live to see October 63.0432 60 PRV_int_01 63.0527 63.6491 61 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 63.5592 fifth of this y- of this year, 65.4052 62 PRV_int_01 65.4620 Uh-huh. 65.8502 63 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 66.1957 I will have been there twenty two years. 68.8160 64 PRV_int_01 68.7640 Wow. 69.2562 65 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 69.5260 Mm-hm. 69.9189 66 PRV_int_01 70.1461 And you've always- so you- 71.2585 67 PRV_int_01 71.2585 (pause 0.25) 71.5093 68 PRV_int_01 71.5093 you own those properties? 72.9199 69 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 72.9652 No I wish I [did.] 74.7166 70 PRV_int_01 74.0871 [] 75.1758 71 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 75.1000 Uh, no, 75.9426 72 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 76.5295 uh, they are privately owned 78.8327 73 PRV_int_01 78.9037 Okay. 79.2587 74 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 79.1688 uh, by share holders out of Johnson City, 81.5639 75 PRV_int_01 81.7485 Mm-hm. 82.0514 76 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 82.0798 Tennessee and they have been here since nineteen eighty 85.4575 77 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 85.4575 (pause 1.12) 86.5746 78 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 86.5746 one. 87.1190 79 PRV_int_01 87.3982 Okay. 87.8195 80 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 88.2313 And they were of course, 89.9401 81 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 89.9401 (pause 0.81) 90.7475 82 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 90.7475 in the disaster of the flood and they were rebuilt, 93.7769 83 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 93.7769 (pause 0.50) 94.2739 84 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 94.2739 and we rented up in March 96.2383 85 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 96.2383 (pause 0.67) 96.9037 86 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 96.9037 uh, two thousand 98.1675 87 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 98.1675 (pause 0.57) 98.7403 88 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 98.7403 two. 99.0148 89 PRV_int_01 99.6112 Okay. 100.0183 90 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 100.7993 Yes. 101.2727 91 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 101.2727 (pause 0.80) 102.0754 92 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 102.0754 [No I take] that back. Two thousand one we rented up. 105.0811 93 PRV_int_01 102.0754 [/Uh-huh./] 102.5298 94 PRV_int_01 105.4266 Okay. 105.8810 95 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 106.0325 Mm-hm. 106.4254 96 PRV_int_01 106.3875 I apol- 106.9792 97 PRV_int_01 113.2585 Turn this back on. 114.2762 98 PRV_int_01 114.2762 (pause 0.25) 114.5298 99 PRV_int_01 114.5298 Okay. 114.9913 100 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 115.9025 But this here is, yeah, I don't know why I wanna think this is two thousand 119.4194 101 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 119.4194 (pause 0.85) 120.2742 102 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 120.2742 five. 121.0220 103 PRV_int_01 121.3913 You getting a little ahead of yourself. 122.8350 104 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 122.8160 [Yeah, yeah.] 124.1414 105 PRV_int_01 123.0101 [] 124.0041 106 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 124.5911 But we did, we actually rented up- 126.1389 107 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 126.1389 (pause 0.38) 126.5203 108 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 126.5203 I was correct, two thousand two- March 129.1237 109 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 129.1237 (pause 0.35) 129.4740 110 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 129.4740 two thousand two. 130.6195 111 PRV_int_01 131.0123 Okay. 131.4478 112 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 131.4667 We rented up, 132.2336 113 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 132.2336 (pause 0.48) 132.7144 114 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 132.7144 sure did. 133.3439 115 PRV_int_01 133.9640 You rented up, 134.7024 116 PRV_int_01 134.7024 (pause 0.24) 134.9438 117 PRV_int_01 134.9438 you [mean-] 135.3367 118 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 135.1284 [Uh] all the units. 136.2929 119 PRV_int_01 136.3355 Oh okay. 136.8234 120 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 137.2727 We had rented up all those units 139.0808 121 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 139.0808 (pause 0.32) 139.4007 122 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 139.4007 in less than forty five days. 141.1758 123 PRV_int_01 141.9236 Okay. 142.3781 124 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 142.9887 Yes. 143.5803 125 PRV_int_01 144.1748 So you kind of- you brought them out? 145.7037 126 PRV_int_01 145.7037 (pause 0.13) 145.8362 127 PRV_int_01 145.8362 Or you- 146.2811 128 PRV_int_01 146.2811 (pause 0.30) 146.5841 129 PRV_int_01 146.5841 what did- 146.9154 130 PRV_int_01 146.9154 (pause 0.18) 147.1000 131 PRV_int_01 147.1000 how did that [work?] 147.9852 132 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 147.7674 [Uh] we rented the pe- rented to the people 149.8906 133 PRV_int_01 150.0206 Oh, [okay.] 150.4939 134 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 150.3262 [to] come back to live here. 151.6800 135 PRV_int_01 151.7699 Okay. [Once they were] rebuilt. 153.5781 136 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 152.2953 [Mm-hm.] 152.8397 137 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 153.6396 Once they were [rebuilt.] 154.9603 138 PRV_int_01 154.3449 [Okay.] 154.9413 139 PRV_int_01 155.0928 [Okay.] 155.4478 140 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 155.1212 [See], 155.4478 141 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 155.8738 all the construction started on 'em in the year two thousand 159.4219 142 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 159.4219 (pause 0.22) 159.6444 143 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 159.6444 one. 160.1650 144 PRV_int_01 160.3686 Mm-hm. 160.8041 145 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 161.0739 And, uh, 161.7460 146 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 161.7460 (pause 0.57) 162.3168 147 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 162.3168 we were kind of amazed that 164.1297 148 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 164.1297 (pause 0.26) 164.3900 149 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 164.3900 they were completed 165.3225 150 PRV_int_01 165.6586 Mm-hm. 166.0088 151 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 165.9378 by March two thousand two. 167.9827 152 PRV_int_01 168.0963 Okay. 168.5034 153 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 168.7096 And we were able to get 'em all rented up 170.7261 154 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 170.7261 (pause 0.26) 170.9864 155 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 170.9864 in less than forty five days. 172.6479 156 PRV_int_01 172.9035 Wow. 173.2821 157 PRV_int_01 173.2821 (pause 0.93) 174.2146 158 PRV_int_01 174.2146 Now it- th- those apartments had been here before the flood too and were rebuilt or? 178.9319 159 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 178.9224 Right. 179.5330 160 PRV_int_01 179.4857 [Okay.] 179.8819 161 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 179.6655 [Right.] 180.0158 162 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 180.1436 Mm-hm. 180.5034 163 PRV_int_01 180.5440 Okay. And now how did you get into the- 182.6551 164 PRV_int_01 182.6551 (pause 0.51) 183.1616 165 PRV_int_01 183.1616 the- 183.3888 166 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 183.3414 Housing [business?] 184.3023 167 PRV_int_01 184.1177 [Housing] business. 185.6608 168 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 185.8738 Well, I- I was 187.8504 169 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 187.8504 (pause 0.63) 188.4799 170 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 188.4799 in school and, um, 189.9994 171 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 189.9994 (pause 1.41) 191.4052 172 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 191.4052 I had taken, uh, 192.3803 173 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 192.3803 (pause 0.76) 193.1356 174 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 193.1356 management course, 194.4089 175 PRV_int_01 194.5178 Uh-huh. 194.7971 176 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 194.7971 and one of my instructors 196.0988 177 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 196.8230 uh, looked at me and said, 197.9306 178 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 197.9306 (pause 1.40) 199.3345 179 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 199.3345 you just have that pizazz to be a leader 202.4301 180 PRV_int_01 202.7331 Uh-huh. 203.0502 181 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 203.2774 and not a follower. 204.6548 182 PRV_int_01 204.8138 Uh-huh. 205.1925 183 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 205.9356 So I thought about it one day I was on the job working 209.2821 184 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 209.2821 (pause 0.25) 209.5283 185 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 209.5283 and uh, everybody was telling me to do this, do that. 212.1013 186 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 212.1013 (pause 0.39) 212.4894 187 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 212.4894 I was a sup- 213.1805 188 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 213.1805 (pause 0.22) 213.4030 189 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 213.4030 one of the support people in a group of engineers at /RD-WORK-1/. 216.7858 190 PRV_int_01 216.8753 Okay. 217.2871 191 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 217.8741 And, uh, 218.5651 192 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 218.5651 (pause 1.37) 219.9378 193 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 219.9378 I just decided well, 221.3579 194 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 221.3579 (pause 1.18) 222.5392 195 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 222.5392 this isn't for me. 223.6327 196 PRV_int_01 223.7557 Mm-hm. 224.1155 197 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 224.7261 It- it's no sense in growing old /into to it/ you know and don't like it. 228.3850 198 PRV_int_01 228.4493 Mm-hm. 228.9179 199 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 229.0078 So I left and, uh, 230.5651 200 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 230.5651 (pause 1.22) 231.7864 201 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 231.7864 came home 232.5579 202 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 232.5579 (pause 0.36) 232.9129 203 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 232.9129 and 233.4099 204 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 233.4099 (pause 0.77) 234.1768 205 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 234.1768 so someone told me 235.3771 206 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 235.3771 (pause 0.47) 235.8457 207 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 235.8457 about the apartments being built 237.7958 208 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 237.7958 (pause 0.35) 238.1414 209 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 238.1414 and they suggested that I go over 240.0584 210 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 240.0584 (pause 0.41) 240.4655 211 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 240.4655 and apply for it. 241.2724 212 PRV_int_01 241.4386 Mm. 241.8457 213 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 241.9214 So 242.4231 214 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 242.4231 (pause 1.41) 243.8290 215 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 243.8290 I never completed an application. /RD-NAME-4/ and I just- 247.7037 216 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 247.7037 (pause 0.45) 248.1581 217 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 248.1581 we just hit it off. 249.4030 218 PRV_int_01 249.3888 Yeah. 249.6776 219 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 250.1603 And, uh, today I call him my white brother. 252.5375 220 PRV_int_01 252.5318 [] 253.9167 221 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 253.0362 [And- ] 253.9403 222 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 254.5367 and, uh, 255.1048 223 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 255.1048 (pause 0.23) 255.3320 224 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 255.3320 I guess it was embarrassment of it all, I ask him today, uh- Well I ask him sometime as a joke- /RD-NAME-2/ did you hire me in this business because 263.3342 225 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 263.3342 (pause 0.65) 263.9874 226 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 263.9874 I slipped and fell in that mud with my pretty white pleated skirt on or just what [was it that made you] hire me that day? 270.6028 227 PRV_int_01 268.5721 [] 269.3200 228 PRV_int_01 270.6434 [] 271.4954 229 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 271.0126 [It was] nasty and muddy and they hadn't pulled- you know, pulled the /curving/ in and the s- paving. 276.2856 230 PRV_int_01 276.4371 Uh-huh. 276.7927 231 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 276.9605 And I slid from one side of that curve all the way across to the other, [and he] came out and scooped me up- [] I was- I was half my [size then.] 286.0656 232 PRV_int_01 280.9271 [Ugh!] 281.3058 233 PRV_int_01 281.3058 (pause 1.30) 282.6102 234 PRV_int_01 282.6102 [] 283.5759 235 PRV_int_01 283.5759 (pause 1.97) 285.5450 236 PRV_int_01 285.5450 [Wow.] 286.0372 237 PRV_int_01 286.2739 Wow. 286.6763 238 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 286.7993 And, uh, 287.3910 239 PRV_int_01 287.5945 287.9638 240 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 288.0774 too- he took me inside where he was 289.9261 241 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 289.9261 (pause 0.72) 290.6503 242 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 290.6503 holding one the units as his office. [He was] occupying one of the older units as his office space. 295.8478 243 PRV_int_01 292.8042 [Mm.] 293.0456 244 PRV_int_01 295.9472 [Mm-hm.] 296.4868 245 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 296.1034 [] 296.2454 246 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 296.5294 He brushed me up and down trying to get the mud [off (laughing).] 300.2148 247 PRV_int_01 299.7225 [] 301.0636 248 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 300.5745 [And (laughing)] 301.0810 249 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 301.4360 he said, you aren't gonna cry are you? I says, no I'm not gonna cry. 304.7190 250 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 304.7190 (pause 0.52) 305.2350 251 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 305.2350 I said- he said, well did you hurt yourself? I says, no I'm not hurting. It's just- I'm [embarrassed.] 310.1131 252 PRV_int_01 309.9191 [] 311.1781 253 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 311.1876 That's all (laughing). 312.6739 254 PRV_int_01 312.9485 /?/ 313.1757 255 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 313.1567 So he start just smiling. He says, embarrassed about what? 316.5675 256 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 317.5805 He says, come on, tell me your name. 318.8159 257 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 318.8159 (pause 0.74) 319.5543 258 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 319.5543 I say /RD-NAME-5/ 320.8276 259 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 320.8276 (pause 0.44) 321.2658 260 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 321.2658 /RD-NAME-1/. 321.9664 261 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 321.9664 (pause 0.33) 322.2930 262 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 322.2930 He says, uh, 323.1876 263 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 323.1876 (pause 0.83) 324.0207 264 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 324.0207 and why are you here? I said, I'm here to apply for your manager's job. 327.7392 265 PRV_int_01 328.0611 328.4161 266 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 328.3687 And he just fell out laughing. 330.1012 267 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 330.6408 He says, well you know what, if you aren't hurt, 332.7566 268 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 332.7566 (pause 0.36) 333.1144 269 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 333.1144 I think you'll make a dern good [manager. ] 336.9816 270 PRV_int_01 335.2065 [] 337.3839 271 PRV_int_01 337.6395 Wow. 338.0845 272 PRV_int_01 338.0845 (pause 0.42) 338.5058 273 PRV_int_01 338.5058 338.9176 274 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 338.9081 And I- he- he was looking at me hard, and I was so embarrassed. Believe me, the tears were here. 344.1744 275 PRV_int_01 344.1981 Mm-hm. 344.8040 276 PRV_int_01 344.8040 (pause 0.14) 344.9487 277 PRV_int_01 344.9487 Mm-hm. 345.2848 278 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 345.3416 I- I thought I was looking real neat 347.9450 279 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 347.9450 (pause 0.53) 348.4751 280 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 348.4751 that white pleated skirt and that red sh- 350.8892 281 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 350.8892 (pause 0.32) 351.2138 282 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 351.2138 uh, gingham blouse on. 352.6433 283 PRV_int_01 352.6717 353.1734 284 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 353.2776 And got over there and I slid all the way across from one side of the s- curve to the other. I says, oh my God. This man'll never hire me, 362.4681 285 PRV_int_01 362.6241 [] 363.3707 286 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 362.9250 [looking like] a little mud [dog (laughing).] 365.2208 287 PRV_int_01 364.6334 [Mm.] 366.2810 288 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 366.2763 But he did. 367.1236 289 PRV_int_01 367.1709 Uh-huh. 367.5922 290 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 367.5117 So I been there every since. 369.0297 291 PRV_int_01 369.1759 Okay. 369.6682 292 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 370.0137 And, uh, 370.7616 293 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 370.7616 (pause 0.71) 371.4764 294 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 371.4764 when he finished these new units, 373.6565 295 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 373.6565 (pause 0.42) 374.0797 296 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 374.0797 he wanted me back. He told the owner, he says, uh, 377.5095 297 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 377.5095 (pause 0.57) 378.0822 298 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 378.0822 I don't want anybody to manage them but /RD-NAME-1/. 380.6004 299 PRV_int_01 380.6383 Mm. 381.0359 300 PRV_int_01 381.0359 (pause 0.74) 381.7723 301 PRV_int_01 381.7723 Now when was this that you 382.9604 302 PRV_int_01 382.9604 (pause 0.70) 383.6562 303 PRV_int_01 383.6562 slipped in the mud? 384.4183 304 PRV_int_01 384.4183 (pause 0.36) 384.7733 305 PRV_int_01 384.7733 [/inaudible/] 385.6725 306 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 384.9721 [Oh this- this] was back in nineteen eighty [one.] 387.8291 307 PRV_int_01 387.6587 [Okay.] 388.1415 308 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 388.1179 /Alright/ I slipped in the mud. 389.6468 309 PRV_int_01 389.7509 390.0538 310 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 390.0302 I'll never forget it. 391.0763 311 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 391.1946 392.3022 312 PRV_int_01 393.3463 [/??/] 393.6208 313 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 393.3747 [It w-] 393.5830 314 PRV_int_01 394.0516 394.8941 315 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 394.8989 [Oh.] 396.0491 316 PRV_int_01 395.6250 [] 395.8001 317 PRV_int_01 397.2486 And you been managing uh, the apartments ever [since?] 399.8851 318 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 399.6484 [Every] since. 400.8629 319 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 401.1724 Every since. 402.2120 320 PRV_int_01 402.9504 So 403.4474 321 PRV_int_01 403.4474 (pause 0.38) 403.8261 322 PRV_int_01 403.8261 now 404.2710 323 PRV_int_01 404.2710 (pause 0.15) 404.4225 324 PRV_int_01 404.4225 you- you were living somewhere else when you worked at /RD-WORK-1/ or? 407.5540 325 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 407.6913 Uh, yes. 408.6664 326 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 408.6664 (pause 0.37) 409.0403 327 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 409.0403 I was still at home with my mother 410.8721 328 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 410.8721 (pause 0.45) 411.3266 329 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 411.3266 and 411.9088 330 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 411.9088 (pause 0.42) 412.3253 331 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 412.3253 my brother 413.1895 332 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 413.1895 (pause 0.72) 413.9090 333 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 413.9090 and my two sisters 415.4426 334 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 415.4426 (pause 0.98) 416.4225 335 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 416.4225 and, uh, I had two sons, 418.2070 336 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 418.2070 (pause 0.36) 418.5647 337 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 418.5647 young sons. 419.4120 338 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 419.4120 (pause 0.30) 419.7149 339 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 419.7149 And we were all with my mother. 421.0498 340 PRV_int_01 421.8355 Mkay. And where was- 422.7917 341 PRV_int_01 422.7917 (pause 0.31) 423.0993 342 PRV_int_01 423.0993 where was this at? 423.9372 343 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 424.2807 Uh, we were at /RD-ADDRESS-3/ 426.0037 344 PRV_int_01 426.6285 [Okay.] 426.9172 345 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 426.7658 [/RD-ADDRESS-4/], [which was] then /RD-ADDRESS-6/ 429.6626 346 PRV_int_01 427.7977 [Oh.] 428.0012 347 PRV_int_01 429.7715 Mm. 430.0176 348 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 430.0176 because they hadn't, 431.2463 349 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 431.7481 uh, finished cutting the roads and what have you all through Princeville 435.1372 350 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 435.1372 (pause 0.31) 435.4449 351 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 435.4449 as they are today. 436.6898 352 PRV_int_01 436.8961 Okay. 437.2842 353 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 437.5777 Mm-hm. 437.9847 354 PRV_int_01 438.1646 Now you- you were born in Princeville? 440.1148 355 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 440.7443 I was born- 441.7810 356 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 441.7810 (pause 0.22) 442.0014 357 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 442.0014 this is kind of 443.3126 358 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 443.3126 (pause 0.80) 444.1078 359 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 444.1078 special to me. 445.0003 360 PRV_int_01 445.0498 Okay. 445.4758 361 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 446.3041 I was born down beside the area where the dyke is today 450.5670 362 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 450.5670 (pause 0.16) 450.7232 363 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 450.7232 on 451.0356 364 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 451.0356 (pause 0.19) 451.2296 365 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 451.2296 this side 452.0893 366 PRV_int_01 452.2994 Wow. 452.5787 367 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 452.7822 above Powell Park. 454.4105 368 PRV_int_01 454.3754 Okay. Wow. 455.4769 369 PRV_int_01 455.9421 Okay so, 456.6900 370 PRV_int_01 456.6900 (pause 0.22) 456.9125 371 PRV_int_01 456.9125 let's see. 457.2154 372 PRV_int_01 457.2154 (pause 0.55) 457.7693 373 PRV_int_01 457.7693 Powell Park. 458.4461 374 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 458.6875 My front yard probably 460.6188 375 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 460.6188 (pause 0.17) 460.7872 376 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 460.7872 would have rested 462.2309 377 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 462.2309 (pause 0.55) 462.7800 378 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 462.7800 somewhat 463.9018 379 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 463.9018 (pause 1.04) 464.9384 380 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 464.9384 right across in front of the dyke 467.3126 381 PRV_int_01 467.4262 Wow. 467.7812 382 PRV_int_01 467.7812 (pause 0.76) 468.5433 383 PRV_int_01 468.5433 Okay. 469.0024 384 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 469.1728 on this side of the river. 470.7961 385 PRV_int_01 470.7964 Mm. 471.1419 386 PRV_int_01 471.1419 (pause 0.29) 471.4307 387 PRV_int_01 471.4307 Mm. 471.7999 388 PRV_int_01 471.7999 (pause 0.96) 472.7635 389 PRV_int_01 472.7635 And how- 473.2227 390 PRV_int_01 473.2227 (pause 0.34) 473.5587 391 PRV_int_01 473.5587 yeah, how- now how, uh, 475.5657 392 PRV_int_01 475.5657 (pause 0.30) 475.8687 393 PRV_int_01 475.8687 long did you live there, in the place you were born? 478.1387 394 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 478.3848 Mm, 479.5966 395 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 479.5966 (pause 1.43) 481.0261 396 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 481.0261 I can remember my mother and my grandmother moving when I was 485.2321 397 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 485.2321 (pause 0.99) 486.2262 398 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 486.2262 maybe about 487.1350 399 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 487.1350 (pause 0.67) 487.8071 400 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 487.8071 six years old. 488.7633 401 PRV_int_01 488.7585 Mm-hm. 489.1751 402 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 489.2508 Mm-hm. 489.6153 403 PRV_int_01 489.7005 Mkay. 490.0934 404 PRV_int_01 490.0934 (pause 0.41) 490.5032 405 PRV_int_01 490.5032 And then you moved over to /RD-ADDRESS-5/? 492.3540 406 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 492.6711 Uh, no over here in Princeville. 494.7493 407 PRV_int_01 494.7822 Okay. 495.1419 408 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 495.1325 I used to live on Main Street. 497.1753 409 PRV_int_01 497.3836 Okay. 497.7623 410 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 498.7326 When it comes to Princeville, I'm a pioneer. [] 501.1846 411 PRV_int_01 500.5408 [Yeah (laughing).] 501.6106 412 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 501.6058 I used to live on Main Street across from /RD-NAME-3/. 504.5433 413 PRV_int_01 504.5244 Okay. 505.0782 414 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 505.5704 And so 506.4651 415 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 506.4651 (pause 0.51) 506.9763 416 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 506.9763 we weren't financially ready to 509.7197 417 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 509.7197 (pause 0.25) 509.9705 418 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 509.9705 510.1646 419 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 510.1646 (pause 0.57) 510.7326 420 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 510.7326 renovate the house 511.8450 421 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 511.8450 (pause 0.51) 512.3562 422 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 512.3562 and- at the time- so 513.8993 423 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 513.8993 (pause 0.36) 514.2590 424 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 514.2590 my mother decides she was going to 516.4960 425 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 516.4960 (pause 0.51) 517.0072 426 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 517.0072 rent at another location. So we did move down 520.0697 427 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 520.0697 (pause 0.69) 520.7635 428 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 520.7635 to the /RD-NAME-2/'s home house. 522.6332 429 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 522.6332 (pause 0.53) 523.1681 430 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 523.1681 You know where the CDC building sat today- occupy that space? Right across from town [hall?] 528.0131 431 PRV_int_01 527.6960 [Yeah] yeah yeah. 528.4865 432 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 528.6238 That's where I was living at- at- at another time. 531.1514 433 PRV_int_01 531.0804 Okay. 531.5027 434 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 531.5064 But by then I was, like, 532.8203 435 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 532.8203 (pause 0.29) 533.1091 436 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 533.1091 nineteen. 534.0084 437 PRV_int_01 533.9516 Mm-hm. 534.4770 438 PRV_int_01 534.6900 Mm-hm. 535.0119 439 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 536.4840 I was nineteen [then.] 537.7952 440 PRV_int_01 537.6532 [Okay.] 538.1076 441 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 538.1691 Mm-hm. 538.5762 442 PRV_int_01 538.7777 So you've lived 539.6203 443 PRV_int_01 539.6203 (pause 0.27) 539.8901 444 PRV_int_01 539.8901 in a few different places. 541.1728 445 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 541.1918 Yes and then my mother decided that she wanted to become a home owner, 545.0239 446 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 545.0239 (pause 0.61) 545.6297 447 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 545.6297 so 546.0842 448 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 546.0842 (pause 0.34) 546.4250 449 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 546.4250 we went over 547.4190 450 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 547.4190 (pause 0.14) 547.5610 451 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 547.5610 to /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue and corner of /RD-ADDRESS-2/ and we bought a quarter of an acre land over there. 552.3208 452 PRV_int_01 552.4534 Okay. 552.8746 453 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 552.9362 My mother and I. 553.6841 454 PRV_int_01 553.9444 Oh wow. 554.4414 455 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 554.6544 [Mm-hm.] 555.0567 456 PRV_int_01 554.8248 [Okay.] 555.1703 457 PRV_int_01 555.9040 So you grew up with your mother and 558.3303 458 PRV_int_01 558.3303 (pause 0.25) 558.5764 459 PRV_int_01 558.5764 did you have [a lot of sib-?] 559.9491 460 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 559.0166 [My grandmother] 560.1763 461 PRV_int_01 560.1527 Okay. 560.5834 462 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 560.7254 and, uh, 561.4875 463 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 561.4875 (pause 0.46) 561.9494 464 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 561.9494 my one brother 563.2037 465 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 563.2037 (pause 0.22) 563.4262 466 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 563.4262 and my two sisters. 564.7042 467 PRV_int_01 564.8131 Okay. 565.2912 468 PRV_int_01 565.2912 (pause 0.55) 565.8450 469 PRV_int_01 565.8450 Okay. 566.2034 470 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 566.4177 And 566.8816 471 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 566.8816 (pause 0.47) 567.3502 472 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 567.3502 you may have seen my sister, met her. 569.1138 473 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 569.1138 (pause 0.28) 569.3978 474 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 569.3978 She is the- my sister next to me 571.2580 475 PRV_int_01 571.3101 Mm-hm. 571.6367 476 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 572.1101 is the director of the day care center up here on Beasley Street. /RD-WORK-1/ 576.3208 477 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 576.3208 (pause 0.46) 576.7847 478 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 576.7847 /RD-WORK-5/ [up here.] 578.1195 479 PRV_int_01 577.6888 [Okay.] I don't think- 578.6828 480 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 578.5550 Right down the street [here.] 579.8094 481 PRV_int_01 579.4922 [Okay.] 579.8141 482 PRV_int_01 579.9987 I think I've seen that 580.7954 483 PRV_int_01 580.7954 (pause 0.23) 581.0286 484 PRV_int_01 581.0286 [but I haven't met] her. 581.9516 485 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 581.0333 [Yes.] 581.5493 486 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 581.5493 (pause 0.36) 581.9137 487 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 581.9137 Uh-huh, that's my sister. 583.2196 488 PRV_int_01 583.3006 Okay, what's her name? 584.3136 489 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 584.3988 Her name is /RD-NAME-3/. 585.7857 490 PRV_int_01 585.9636 Okay. 586.4085 491 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 586.7446 But 587.1659 492 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 587.1659 (pause 0.62) 587.7859 493 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 587.7859 would you believe 588.7705 494 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 588.7705 (pause 0.86) 589.6273 495 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 589.6273 another young 590.4509 496 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 590.4509 (pause 0.20) 590.6497 497 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 590.6497 lady and I- 591.6532 498 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 591.6532 (pause 0.81) 592.4653 499 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 592.4653 uh, well no, I organized the day care center 595.2202 500 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 595.2202 (pause 0.18) 595.4000 501 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 595.4000 in Princeville. 596.4225 502 PRV_int_01 596.5692 Mm-hm. 596.8911 503 PRV_int_01 596.8911 (pause 0.80) 597.6910 504 PRV_int_01 597.6910 Okay. 598.1170 505 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 598.6594 I was the original organizer of that under /RD-WORK-6/. 602.1621 506 PRV_int_01 602.2710 Okay. 602.8080 507 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 603.1088 I paint floors. I mop floors. That- that was in the old town hall. Would [you believe] it? 608.4887 508 PRV_int_01 607.7977 [Oh.] 608.0580 509 PRV_int_01 608.4935 Really? [Okay.] 609.2887 510 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 609.0520 [Mm-hm.] The old flooded town hall. 611.1473 511 PRV_int_01 611.4499 This was a /RD-WORK-2/? 612.6948 512 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 612.7326 Yes this was /RD-WORK-2/. 614.1763 513 PRV_int_01 614.2284 I've heard 614.7585 514 PRV_int_01 614.7585 (pause 0.32) 615.0804 515 PRV_int_01 615.0804 a little bit about that. 616.0886 516 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 616.0934 And of course, uh, before that, 618.2593 517 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 618.2593 (pause 0.63) 618.8888 518 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 618.8888 I was the first secretary and acting librarian 621.7431 519 PRV_int_01 622.0981 [Mm-hm.] 622.4152 520 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 622.2969 [at] the school here. 623.3315 521 PRV_int_01 623.5067 Okay. 623.8901 522 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 624.4534 When they 624.8936 523 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 624.8936 (pause 0.18) 625.0734 524 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 625.0734 f- completed the school, 626.3041 525 PRV_int_01 626.4319 Okay. 626.9100 526 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 626.9526 mm-hm. 627.4023 527 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 627.4023 (pause 0.19) 627.5964 528 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 627.5964 [I was the] first secretary and librarian there. 629.9232 529 PRV_int_01 627.6058 [Wow.] 628.0034 530 PRV_int_01 629.9279 Wow. 630.5575 531 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 630.8415 Mm-hm. 631.1728 532 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 631.1728 (pause 1.24) 632.4083 533 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 632.4083 /?/ 632.7207 534 PRV_int_01 632.9289 So you've had a few different hats. 634.7919 535 PRV_int_01 634.7919 (pause 0.19) 634.9835 536 PRV_int_01 634.9835 Yeah. 635.2369 537 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 635.2369 Oh [yes. Oh] [yes. I'm] a pioneer when it come- come to Princeville. 638.7065 538 PRV_int_01 635.6297 [] 636.0984 539 PRV_int_01 636.0984 (pause 0.26) 636.3587 540 PRV_int_01 636.3587 [] 636.6569 541 PRV_int_01 638.8579 [Yeah.] 639.1325 542 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 638.9857 [When] they removed the post office from Princeville, 641.3363 543 PRV_int_01 641.3931 Uh-huh. 641.7765 544 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 641.8664 I was the thirteen and a half girl 644.3373 545 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 644.3373 (pause 0.53) 644.8627 546 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 644.8627 that they used to go around and 647.4451 547 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 647.4451 (pause 0.49) 647.9374 548 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 647.9374 put the addresses on the 649.6367 549 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 649.6367 (pause 0.34) 649.9728 550 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 649.9728 m- individual mail [boxes.] 651.5648 551 PRV_int_01 651.2887 [Oh] wow. 652.0508 552 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 652.2922 [Mm-hm.] 652.6424 553 PRV_int_01 652.3186 [] 652.8819 554 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 653.3505 Yes. 653.8711 555 PRV_int_01 654.0368 So you've been a part of a lot of the town's history? 656.8106 556 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 656.9053 Oh honey, you have to fight me about being a [pioneer when it comes to Princeville.] 660.8380 557 PRV_int_01 659.3741 [] 661.5042 558 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 661.6746 You don't talk about Princeville if you never lived here. [] 664.9103 559 PRV_int_01 664.1150 [That's right.] 664.9529 560 PRV_int_01 665.1422 That's right. 665.7102 561 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 665.6865 Mm-hm-hm. 666.2451 562 PRV_int_01 666.0936 Wow. Wow. 667.0450 563 PRV_int_01 667.6793 So back to- 668.7254 564 PRV_int_01 668.7254 (pause 0.31) 669.0331 565 PRV_int_01 669.0331 you were born right next to the dyke there. 671.0428 566 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 671.3410 Right [across from] that dyke. 672.6806 567 PRV_int_01 671.6818 [Wow.] 671.9942 568 PRV_int_01 671.9942 (pause 0.66) 672.6569 569 PRV_int_01 672.6569 Right across from the dyke. 673.8355 570 PRV_int_01 674.2947 What um, 675.1135 571 PRV_int_01 675.1135 (pause 0.68) 675.7952 572 PRV_int_01 675.7952 now 676.3442 573 PRV_int_01 676.3442 (pause 0.79) 677.1327 574 PRV_int_01 677.1327 what year were you born? 678.0605 575 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 679.0971 Uh, in forty 680.0817 576 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 680.0817 (pause 0.62) 680.6970 577 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 680.6970 two. 681.0567 578 PRV_int_01 681.2698 Okay. 681.6910 579 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 681.8094 In forty two. 682.8014 580 PRV_int_01 682.8961 And your birthday? 683.7907 581 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 684.3634 Twelve twenty four. 685.4379 582 PRV_int_01 685.5704 Twelve twenty four. Oh okay. Right- right before Christmas. 688.6140 583 PRV_int_01 688.6140 (pause 0.19) 688.8014 584 PRV_int_01 688.8014 [] 689.6203 585 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 688.9907 [Yes.] 689.7149 586 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 689.8522 Yes. 690.6096 587 PRV_int_01 690.6616 Okay. 691.2060 588 PRV_int_01 691.2060 (pause 0.37) 691.5799 589 PRV_int_01 691.5799 Now you, uh, 692.6213 590 PRV_int_01 692.6213 (pause 0.80) 693.4165 591 PRV_int_01 693.4165 you 694.0224 592 PRV_int_01 694.0224 (pause 0.30) 694.3186 593 PRV_int_01 694.3186 um- 694.9576 594 PRV_int_01 694.9576 (pause 0.65) 695.6108 595 PRV_int_01 695.6108 do you remember being next to the dyke? 697.6178 596 PRV_int_01 697.6178 (pause 0.39) 698.0059 597 PRV_int_01 698.0059 Any, 698.3136 598 PRV_int_01 698.3136 (pause 0.34) 698.6544 599 PRV_int_01 698.6544 uh- 699.1041 600 PRV_int_01 699.1041 (pause 0.15) 699.2508 601 PRV_int_01 699.2508 I heard that there were 700.1459 602 PRV_int_01 700.1459 (pause 0.18) 700.3280 603 PRV_int_01 700.3280 floods- 700.9718 604 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 701.2795 The dyke was not there. 702.5338 605 PRV_int_01 702.8652 Okay. 703.3432 606 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 703.3622 That's what I'm saying. 704.3136 607 PRV_int_01 704.2994 Yeah. 704.7028 608 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 705.0141 It was not there. 705.8946 609 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 705.8946 (pause 0.77) 706.6689 610 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 706.6689 Our- 707.1564 611 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 707.1564 (pause 1.02) 708.1741 612 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 708.1741 th- there were like two sets of houses down there. 711.5869 613 PRV_int_01 711.6721 Yeah. 711.9277 614 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 711.8851 There was the- there were the houses 713.7339 615 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 714.0463 that was 714.6096 616 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 714.6096 (pause 1.23) 715.8403 617 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 715.8403 next to the river, 717.1188 618 PRV_int_01 717.1372 Mm-hm. 717.6721 619 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 717.6674 and then we lived across the street 720.0037 620 PRV_int_01 720.3066 Yeah. 720.6190 621 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 720.8888 from those [houses.] 722.6639 622 PRV_int_01 722.5455 [Okay.] 722.9573 623 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 723.7052 So 724.0744 624 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 724.0744 (pause 0.41) 724.4795 625 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 724.4795 it was in- now if my- my- 726.0179 626 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 726.0179 (pause 0.30) 726.3161 627 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 726.3161 my mind serve me correctly, 728.1862 628 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 728.1862 (pause 0.44) 728.6213 629 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 728.6213 it was like back in nineteen- somewhere back in nineteen sixty f- 732.6096 630 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 732.6096 (pause 1.07) 733.6841 631 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 733.6841 five or seventy. 734.5929 632 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 734.5929 (pause 0.36) 734.9479 633 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 734.9479 It was somewhere back there that- 736.3111 634 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 736.3111 (pause 0.48) 736.7919 635 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 736.7919 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ worked with another y- 738.4202 636 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 738.4202 (pause 0.19) 738.6096 637 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 738.6096 lady 739.1350 638 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 739.1350 (pause 0.32) 739.4521 639 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 739.4521 out of Tarboro and they got the dyke in [here.] 741.6011 640 PRV_int_01 741.3282 [/inaudible/] 741.7948 641 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 741.7999 But it was really later later on. 743.8569 642 PRV_int_01 743.8806 Yeah. 744.2688 643 PRV_int_01 744.2688 (pause 0.20) 744.4676 644 PRV_int_01 744.4676 [Yeah.] 744.8273 645 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 744.5622 [Yeah.] 744.9314 646 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 745.1018 It was a many years later. 746.2568 647 PRV_int_01 746.3041 So yeah that's what I was saying that 747.6910 648 PRV_int_01 747.6910 (pause 0.15) 747.8425 649 PRV_int_01 747.8425 you 748.2306 650 PRV_int_01 748.2306 (pause 0.67) 748.8961 651 PRV_int_01 748.8961 experienced some flooding down there? 750.6001 652 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 751.1302 Yes, [because] 752.2710 653 PRV_int_01 751.6083 [] 752.4935 654 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 752.7443 you let it fl- let the water come up, 754.6215 655 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 754.6215 (pause 0.36) 754.9860 656 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 754.9860 my grandma spanked my hiney for g- opening the back door [looking] out at the water standing out in the [backyard.] 760.8637 657 PRV_int_01 758.0249 [Oh.] 758.3089 658 PRV_int_01 758.3089 (pause 2.44) 760.7446 659 PRV_int_01 760.7446 [] Wow. 761.9658 660 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 762.4439 Girl, you'll fall out there and [drown. ] 765.3360 661 PRV_int_01 764.1243 [] 765.4070 662 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 765.6011 Because see, the houses down there set up real high 768.9172 663 PRV_int_01 768.8983 Mm-hm. 769.4521 664 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 769.4758 for that [protection] 770.7538 665 PRV_int_01 770.5692 [Okay.] 770.9526 666 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 770.9857 up from the water. 771.9182 667 PRV_int_01 772.1955 Okay [now were they up] on like stilts [or-] 774.3776 668 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 772.5742 [Mm-hm.] 773.1706 669 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 773.1706 (pause 1.06) 774.2262 670 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 774.2262 [Yes.] 774.8226 671 PRV_int_01 774.9267 Okay. 775.3811 672 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 775.3574 Yes. 775.9491 673 PRV_int_01 776.0438 Okay. 776.4982 674 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 776.5219 So she didn't allow it- when sh- when the water came up, 779.1138 675 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 779.1138 (pause 0.54) 779.6581 676 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 779.6581 we were not allowed to go out the back because see in the back it was lower. 783.1940 677 PRV_int_01 783.3550 Mm-hm. 783.7147 678 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 783.6626 And, uh, we couldn't go out there. 785.3363 679 PRV_int_01 785.4073 Okay. 785.7812 680 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 786.0084 It was unsafe. 787.1728 681 PRV_int_01 787.3480 How often would the water run up? 789.0615 682 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 789.6390 Well, as a little girl, 791.6581 683 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 791.6581 (pause 0.34) 791.9989 684 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 791.9989 I can remember the water coming up 794.1195 685 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 794.1195 (pause 0.70) 794.8153 686 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 794.8153 just enough to aggravate us so that we couldn't 797.4025 687 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 797.4025 (pause 0.50) 797.8995 688 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 797.8995 get to the pump. 799.0545 689 PRV_int_01 799.0166 Mm. 799.5610 690 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 800.5361 Uh, you know. 801.5538 691 PRV_int_01 801.9778 Yeah. 802.2996 692 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 802.2949 And then finally, like I said, one day, our- 804.7326 693 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 805.7314 my uncle came back home from the military and he purchased property down here 809.3503 694 PRV_int_01 809.3599 [Mm-hm.] 809.8853 695 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 809.7433 on Main Street in Princeville. So we left from that area. 812.7396 696 PRV_int_01 813.0425 Okay. 813.4638 697 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 813.7620 And 814.5762 698 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 814.5762 (pause 0.93) 815.5067 699 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 815.5067 then the- the next really 817.6225 700 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 817.6225 (pause 0.47) 818.0911 701 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 818.0911 huge flood that I can remember 820.1360 702 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 820.1360 (pause 0.25) 820.3821 703 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 820.3821 is a year of nineteen fifty eight. 822.2546 704 PRV_int_01 822.2451 Okay. 822.7184 705 PRV_int_01 822.9220 I think I heard a little bit- 823.9018 706 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 823.8687 And again, I was 825.3266 707 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 825.4828 very young. 826.3253 708 PRV_int_01 826.6310 /?/ 826.8061 709 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 826.8535 I- I- 827.5777 710 PRV_int_01 827.9563 How- you woulda been- 829.1018 711 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 829.7219 I- I think I was something maybe like about 832.7351 712 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 832.7351 (pause 0.83) 833.5635 713 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 833.5635 I guess eleven years old, something like that. 835.8876 714 PRV_int_01 835.8923 Mm-hm. 836.2947 715 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 836.7396 And we had to leave Princeville. 838.6046 716 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 838.6046 (pause 0.56) 839.1659 717 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 839.1659 We went out. Some people owned, uh, 841.0592 718 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 841.0592 (pause 0.43) 841.4900 719 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 841.4900 row boats and the motor boats 843.3076 720 PRV_int_01 843.4970 Yeah. 843.7762 721 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 843.8898 and, uh, 844.6945 722 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 844.6945 (pause 1.28) 845.9753 723 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 845.9753 my uncle took us out in a car 847.8497 724 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 847.8497 (pause 0.16) 848.0107 725 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 848.0107 early so we went to my aunt's house over in Tarboro. 851.1564 726 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 851.1564 (pause 0.64) 851.8001 727 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 851.8001 And, uh, 852.5244 728 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 852.5244 (pause 0.35) 852.8699 729 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 852.8699 I boohooed and cried because I was ready to come back home and the water wouldn't recede. [] 857.9516 730 PRV_int_01 857.1233 [] 858.2167 731 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 858.2404 And we had to stay with my aunt for like about a week. 861.4970 732 PRV_int_01 861.7857 Uh-huh. 862.2212 733 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 863.2700 And then the next 864.4297 734 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 864.4297 (pause 1.73) 866.1621 735 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 866.1621 humongous flood 867.5822 736 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 867.5822 (pause 0.20) 867.7810 737 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 867.7810 I'll say it was ninety nine that I remember. 870.0463 738 PRV_int_01 870.1126 Yeah. 870.4960 739 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 870.4723 And I'll never forget that one. 871.9444 740 PRV_int_01 871.8781 872.7964 741 PRV_int_01 873.7573 Yeah, it s- so I- um- I'm sure you have quite a story 876.6616 742 PRV_int_01 876.6616 (pause 0.55) 877.2107 743 PRV_int_01 877.2107 about that time, um, 878.7017 744 PRV_int_01 878.7017 (pause 0.72) 879.4260 745 PRV_int_01 879.4260 before we get to that story though, 881.5966 746 PRV_int_01 881.5966 (pause 0.54) 882.1410 747 PRV_int_01 882.1410 uh, 882.5859 748 PRV_int_01 882.5859 (pause 0.39) 882.9788 749 PRV_int_01 882.9788 is- 883.2675 750 PRV_int_01 883.2675 (pause 1.22) 884.4840 751 PRV_int_01 884.4840 uh- I kind of wanted 885.5396 752 PRV_int_01 885.5396 (pause 0.26) 885.7952 753 PRV_int_01 885.7952 to- 886.0271 754 PRV_int_01 886.0271 (pause 0.29) 886.3186 755 PRV_int_01 886.3186 to know a little bit more about your- your childhood in terms of- 889.3148 756 PRV_int_01 889.3148 (pause 0.61) 889.9207 757 PRV_int_01 889.9207 especially living down right next to the water- 892.1549 758 PRV_int_01 892.1549 (pause 0.38) 892.5316 759 PRV_int_01 892.5316 what- 892.9220 760 PRV_int_01 892.9220 (pause 0.34) 893.2605 761 PRV_int_01 893.2605 what was 893.9516 762 PRV_int_01 893.9516 (pause 0.33) 894.2782 763 PRV_int_01 894.2782 life like as a- 895.5988 764 PRV_int_01 895.5988 (pause 0.26) 895.8592 765 PRV_int_01 895.8592 a child in Princeville? What did it- 897.4023 766 PRV_int_01 897.4023 (pause 0.57) 897.9750 767 PRV_int_01 897.9750 what are your memories of the town? 899.5161 768 PRV_int_01 899.5161 (pause 0.20) 899.7149 769 PRV_int_01 899.7149 Your early memories of- of the town? 901.8024 770 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 903.2319 Well, uh, 904.2164 771 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 904.2164 (pause 0.67) 904.8819 772 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 904.8819 as you can see today, 906.3256 773 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 906.3256 (pause 0.29) 906.6190 774 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 906.6190 Princeville has never had 908.4319 775 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 908.4319 (pause 0.66) 909.0899 776 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 909.0899 recreation for the k- children here. 911.2037 777 PRV_int_01 911.3173 Okay. 911.7528 778 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 912.5065 And that- that's one of my big dreams because I 915.6200 779 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 915.6200 (pause 0.19) 915.8094 780 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 915.8094 have known all of my life never to have 918.0675 781 PRV_int_01 918.4960 [Hm.] 918.7942 782 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 918.5149 [access] to any recreation here. 920.5929 783 PRV_int_01 920.7207 Okay. 921.1230 784 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 921.4828 And of course, I attended school 923.7061 785 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 923.7061 (pause 0.34) 924.0510 786 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 924.0510 the- 924.2356 787 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 924.2356 (pause 0.96) 925.1918 788 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 925.1918 the /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 925.9207 789 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 925.9207 (pause 0.21) 926.1337 790 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 926.1337 /RD-SCHOOL-2/- 926.9431 791 PRV_int_01 927.0047 Right. 927.2887 792 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 927.3171 building [over there], [the old] town hall. 929.3410 793 PRV_int_01 927.8400 [/?/] 928.1860 794 PRV_int_01 928.1860 (pause 0.28) 928.4653 795 PRV_int_01 928.4653 [Yeah.] 928.7162 796 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 929.6439 I went through fourth grade there. Then, uh, we had to 932.2805 797 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 932.2805 (pause 0.37) 932.6544 798 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 932.6544 catch the bus right in front of there 934.5174 799 PRV_int_01 934.5411 Mm. 934.8109 800 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 934.8393 and commute to the /RD-SCHOOL-7/ 936.7468 801 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 936.7468 (pause 0.83) 937.5777 802 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 937.5777 colored school /?/ 938.4225 803 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 938.4225 (pause 0.16) 938.5787 804 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 938.5787 over in Tarboro 939.7526 805 PRV_int_01 939.8046 Okay. 940.2401 806 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 940.3186 from fifth grade through high school. 942.1268 807 PRV_int_01 942.1173 Mm-hm. 942.4912 808 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 943.0450 And, uh, like I said, there never been recreation over here. 946.1123 809 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 946.1123 (pause 0.33) 946.4464 810 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 946.4464 There used to be a ball park 948.7137 811 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 948.7137 (pause 0.90) 949.6130 812 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 949.6130 across from 950.8011 813 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 950.8011 (pause 0.45) 951.2508 814 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 951.2508 the old town hall, 952.4294 815 PRV_int_01 952.5837 Mm. 952.7919 816 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 952.7493 back over in the wooded area. 954.4628 817 PRV_int_01 954.5717 Mm, yeah. 954.9409 818 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 954.9314 And on Sunday e- 956.2899 819 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 956.5455 evenings, uh, 957.7715 820 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 957.7715 (pause 0.35) 958.1218 821 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 958.1218 they would gather back there and play ball 960.0461 822 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 960.0461 (pause 0.56) 960.6096 823 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 960.6096 and 961.1492 824 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 961.1492 (pause 0.32) 961.4663 825 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 961.4663 the kids would 962.2473 826 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 962.2473 (pause 0.31) 962.5597 827 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 962.5597 sneak back there and play around while they were playing ball. 965.7339 828 PRV_int_01 965.7244 Mm-hm. 966.2451 829 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 966.3634 And of course our- our 967.8213 830 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 967.8213 (pause 1.41) 969.2319 831 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 969.2319 most entertainment 970.6614 832 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 970.6614 (pause 0.42) 971.0807 833 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 971.0807 was to go to each other's 972.8320 834 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 972.8320 (pause 0.47) 973.3006 835 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 973.3006 yards 973.9775 836 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 973.9775 (pause 0.26) 974.2379 837 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 974.2379 and play games. 975.3360 838 PRV_int_01 975.3834 Okay. 975.7762 839 PRV_int_01 975.7762 (pause 0.58) 976.3564 840 PRV_int_01 976.3564 What kind of games would you play? 977.6203 841 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 977.8948 Oh, 978.6758 842 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 978.6758 (pause 0.21) 978.8888 843 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 978.8888 we played hop scotch. We played Ring Around the Roses, all that little stuff they taught us at school. 983.6440 844 PRV_int_01 983.5163 Uh-huh. 984.0415 845 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 984.2924 And 984.7894 846 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 984.7894 (pause 1.20) 985.9917 847 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 985.9917 in the- in these recent years, 987.8567 848 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 987.8567 (pause 0.32) 988.1738 849 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 988.1738 some of the kids have been a little bit more fortunate because, uh, 991.2486 850 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 991.2486 (pause 0.67) 991.9160 851 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 991.9160 /RD-NAME-4/ came into the area and, uh, 994.6282 852 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 994.6282 (pause 0.87) 995.5019 853 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 995.5019 implemented some summer activities for the kids. 998.3751 854 PRV_int_01 998.4177 Mm-hm. 998.7112 855 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 998.6544 But 998.9147 856 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 999.1852 in my- at my time 1000.7662 857 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1000.7662 (pause 0.53) 1001.2916 858 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1001.2916 of 1001.5093 859 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1001.5093 (pause 0.45) 1001.9638 860 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1001.9638 say in recreation and entertainment, 1004.0113 861 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1004.0113 (pause 0.55) 1004.5651 862 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1004.5651 Princeville had 1005.3036 863 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1005.3036 (pause 0.21) 1005.5166 864 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1005.5166 nothing to offer. 1006.6715 865 PRV_int_01 1006.6952 Really? 1007.1070 866 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1007.2111 Mm-hm. 1007.6324 867 PRV_int_01 1008.5250 So you pretty much 1009.3913 868 PRV_int_01 1009.3913 (pause 0.69) 1010.0823 869 PRV_int_01 1010.0823 played in your 1010.8870 870 PRV_int_01 1010.8870 (pause 0.20) 1011.0906 871 PRV_int_01 1011.0906 own yard [or neighbors?] 1012.3449 872 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1011.7911 [Y- y- our-] 1012.4917 873 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1012.6337 my best friend, uh, 1014.3235 874 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1014.3235 (pause 0.63) 1014.9509 875 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1014.9509 we would go from my best friend to someone else house to play, uh, 1019.3815 876 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1019.3815 (pause 0.52) 1019.9022 877 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1019.9022 ride bicycle or 1021.2500 878 PRV_int_01 1021.4481 Mm-hm. 1021.6989 879 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1021.6327 something like that. 1022.5415 880 PRV_int_01 1022.5841 Mm-hm. 1023.0764 881 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1023.5024 There were no recreation here. 1025.4620 882 PRV_int_01 1025.6987 Okay. 1026.1768 883 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1026.3282 Mm-hm. 1026.7022 884 PRV_int_01 1027.3439 And uh, 1028.1959 885 PRV_int_01 1028.1959 (pause 0.83) 1029.0243 886 PRV_int_01 1029.0243 so then 1029.8006 887 PRV_int_01 1029.8006 (pause 0.33) 1030.1272 888 PRV_int_01 1030.1272 as you 1030.7804 889 PRV_int_01 1030.7804 (pause 0.55) 1031.3342 890 PRV_int_01 1031.3342 w- grew older, eventually you went to school in- in Tarboro. Did you end up having to go over to Tarboro a lot to do- 1037.1401 891 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1037.0786 Yes, uh, see, 1038.3046 892 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1039.0031 like I said, when we 1040.0208 893 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1040.0208 (pause 0.17) 1040.1865 894 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1040.1865 fin- completed fourth grade here, 1041.8763 895 PRV_int_01 1041.9426 Mm-hm. 1042.2881 896 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1042.6715 we had to commute by bus 1044.6501 897 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1044.6501 (pause 0.26) 1044.9132 898 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1044.9132 [to] the /RD-SCHOOL-8/. 1046.7071 899 PRV_int_01 1044.9179 [Mm.] 1045.1972 900 PRV_int_01 1046.7119 Mm-hm. 1047.1616 901 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1047.7532 And, uh, that's where I graduated from. 1050.1105 902 PRV_int_01 1050.2099 Okay. [That went all] the way [from-] 1051.8362 903 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1050.6454 [Mm-hm.] 1051.0950 904 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1051.0950 (pause 0.47) 1051.5664 905 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1051.5664 [Yes] that went all the way 1052.6787 906 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1052.9959 from fifth grade to twelfth. 1054.4775 907 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1054.4775 (pause 0.32) 1054.7946 908 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1054.7946 [Mm-hm.] 1055.1780 909 PRV_int_01 1054.9839 [And-] and you said that was 1056.1436 910 PRV_int_01 1056.5176 still segregated schools? 1058.3569 911 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1058.4941 Yes that was segregated at that time. And of course, there- there were recreation through the school system there. Like, uh, 1065.7390 912 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1065.7390 (pause 0.14) 1065.8763 913 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1065.8763 1066.0041 914 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1066.0041 (pause 0.26) 1066.2597 915 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1066.2597 the football, the basketball and the baseball. 1068.8252 916 PRV_int_01 1069.0836 Mm-hm. 1069.5523 917 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1069.6800 Mm-hm. 1070.0823 918 PRV_int_01 1070.2243 Okay. 1070.6219 919 PRV_int_01 1070.6219 (pause 0.83) 1071.4503 920 PRV_int_01 1071.4503 Now do you rem- do you remember, um, 1073.5519 921 PRV_int_01 1073.5519 (pause 0.53) 1074.0774 922 PRV_int_01 1074.0774 the time of- of desegregation in this area? 1076.8350 923 PRV_int_01 1076.8350 (pause 0.76) 1077.5923 924 PRV_int_01 1077.5923 Um, what that was like or 1079.0597 925 PRV_int_01 1079.0597 (pause 0.55) 1079.6087 926 PRV_int_01 1079.6087 I guess you woulda been out of school at that time so it wouldn't have been- 1082.7356 927 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1084.4775 Well, 1085.1969 928 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1085.1969 (pause 2.01) 1087.2114 929 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1087.2114 I'm one of those people can adapt to almost anything, 1089.7390 930 PRV_int_01 1089.6586 Mm-hm. 1090.0988 931 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1090.5059 and as far as segregation goes 1092.7258 932 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1092.7258 (pause 0.88) 1093.6043 933 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1093.6043 with me, 1094.3427 934 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1094.3427 (pause 2.63) 1096.9697 935 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1096.9697 I guess I never realized it was there based on the fact 1100.3663 936 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1100.3663 (pause 0.58) 1100.9438 937 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1100.9438 that from the time I was fourteen 1103.2679 938 PRV_int_01 1103.3863 Mm-hm. 1103.7649 939 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1105.7226 I was in a- in a Jewish household. 1108.3733 940 PRV_int_01 1108.6242 Oh okay. 1109.1401 941 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1109.7933 By that I mean, I was- 1111.2114 942 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1111.2114 (pause 0.56) 1111.7747 943 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1111.7747 they were teaching me how to cook 1113.2894 944 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1113.2894 (pause 0.54) 1113.8337 945 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1113.8337 Jewish- Jewish meals, 1115.8075 946 PRV_int_01 1115.7129 Uh-huh. 1116.1200 947 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1116.7022 uh, I was doing the marketing for them. 1118.8018 948 PRV_int_01 1119.1190 Okay. 1119.5592 949 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1119.7343 My cousin had got me a job 1121.4431 950 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1121.4431 (pause 0.31) 1121.7507 951 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1121.7507 with one of the 1122.5933 952 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1122.5933 (pause 0.85) 1123.4386 953 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1123.4386 r- most wealthy Jewish families 1125.6112 954 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1125.6112 (pause 0.29) 1125.9047 955 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1125.9047 in Tarboro. 1126.6715 956 PRV_int_01 1126.6337 Oh, [okay.] 1127.6087 957 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1127.3295 [So] see recreation- I mean uh, segregation was a thing, 1130.7166 958 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1131.3793 uh, 1131.8148 959 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1131.8148 (pause 0.82) 1132.6337 960 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1132.6337 set aside for me because I wasn't really, you know, 1135.2500 961 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1135.2500 (pause 0.25) 1135.5001 962 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1135.5001 concentrating on it because 1136.8586 963 PRV_int_01 1136.7782 Mm-hm. 1137.0906 964 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1137.1474 I was involved with these people and 1139.0644 965 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1139.0644 (pause 0.21) 1139.2774 966 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1139.2774 they didn't treat me that way. 1140.7002 967 PRV_int_01 1140.7164 Mm. 1140.9862 968 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1141.6611 Uh, as a matter of fact, uh, 1143.9804 969 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1143.9804 (pause 0.54) 1144.5201 970 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1144.5201 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/ 1145.2774 971 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1145.2774 (pause 1.42) 1146.7022 972 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1146.7022 the gentleman I worked for and his wife and family, 1149.4124 973 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1149.4124 (pause 1.84) 1151.2490 974 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1151.2490 everyday was Christmas with me with- sharing that- their household because they 1155.2752 975 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1155.2752 (pause 0.39) 1155.6633 976 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1155.6633 never 1155.9615 977 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1155.9615 (pause 0.20) 1156.1650 978 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1156.1650 failed to come from the store and bring me a gift or 1158.8868 979 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1158.8868 (pause 0.61) 1159.4954 980 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1159.4954 he was always calling me 1161.0906 981 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1161.0906 (pause 0.40) 1161.4929 982 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1161.4929 my little girl, 1162.3970 983 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1162.3970 (pause 0.13) 1162.5248 984 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1162.5248 you know? 1162.9981 985 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1162.9981 (pause 0.11) 1163.1117 986 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1163.1117 And- and I just know- I- I never had any recognition 1165.8599 987 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1165.8599 (pause 0.41) 1166.2669 988 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1166.2669 for that thing of segregation. 1167.5970 989 PRV_int_01 1167.7627 So it didn't impact you at- 1169.0360 990 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1169.0313 No, not- not at all. 1170.1720 991 PRV_int_01 1170.1626 Okay. 1170.4418 992 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1170.6150 Mm-mm. 1171.1120 993 PRV_int_01 1171.5569 Um, 1172.0634 994 PRV_int_01 1172.0634 (pause 0.44) 1172.5036 995 PRV_int_01 1172.5036 and then- and so when the- when the area changed, it- it kind of- you kind of were isolated from that in terms of any 1177.9403 996 PRV_int_01 1177.9403 (pause 0.49) 1178.4279 997 PRV_int_01 1178.4279 changes or tension or [anything like that?] 1180.4112 998 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1179.7390 [ Right.] 1180.3923 999 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1180.8514 Right. 1181.2348 1000 PRV_int_01 1181.1496 /Okay/. 1181.4857 1001 PRV_int_01 1182.3566 So then you- 1182.8442 1002 PRV_int_01 1182.8442 (pause 0.56) 1183.4055 1003 PRV_int_01 1183.4055 after high school 1184.5699 1004 PRV_int_01 1184.5699 (pause 0.78) 1185.3509 1005 PRV_int_01 1185.3509 you w- 1185.9047 1006 PRV_int_01 1185.9047 (pause 0.30) 1186.2076 1007 PRV_int_01 1186.2076 what- what did you do after that? 1187.6419 1008 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1187.6229 Well after high school I accepted a job over here as secretary to Mrs. /RD-NAME-5/. 1194.1673 1009 PRV_int_01 1194.5554 Oh [okay.] 1195.2500 1010 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1194.8422 [She was a] principal of the school, 1196.4042 1011 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1197.0858 and I stayed there for two years. 1198.8893 1012 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1198.8893 (pause 0.71) 1199.5993 1013 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1199.5993 And 1200.0490 1014 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1200.0490 (pause 0.19) 1200.2383 1015 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1200.2383 then 1200.8063 1016 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1200.8063 (pause 0.15) 1200.9558 1017 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1200.9558 they set up 1201.6327 1018 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1201.6327 (pause 0.39) 1202.0208 1019 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1202.0208 the 1202.4373 1020 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1202.4373 (pause 0.30) 1202.7403 1021 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1202.7403 community college 1203.8905 1022 PRV_int_01 1203.9000 Mm. 1204.3307 1023 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1204.4112 and I start taking classes there. 1206.3898 1024 PRV_int_01 1206.5696 Mm-hm. 1206.9436 1025 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1207.0220 And from there I went to East Carolina University. 1209.7248 1026 PRV_int_01 1209.8858 Okay. 1210.3118 1027 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1210.5343 And I had two years 1211.7154 1028 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1211.7154 (pause 0.09) 1211.8036 1029 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1211.8036 there in 1212.4134 1030 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1212.4134 (pause 0.39) 1212.7996 1031 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1212.7996 Early Childhood Education. 1214.7166 1032 PRV_int_01 1214.7450 Oh, [okay.] 1215.3036 1033 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1215.0858 [And this] is when I came back, and I organized the daycare center [here] 1218.5886 1034 PRV_int_01 1218.3424 [Okay.] 1218.8726 1035 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1218.9984 under /RD-WORK-6/. 1220.4373 1036 PRV_int_01 1220.6219 Okay. 1220.9864 1037 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1221.0432 Mm-hm. 1221.4030 1038 PRV_int_01 1221.7485 And then you- so you came back from that training, 1224.3424 1039 PRV_int_01 1224.3424 (pause 0.35) 1224.6907 1040 PRV_int_01 1224.6907 started the daycare [center.] 1225.9829 1041 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1225.6705 [Yes.] 1226.1959 1042 PRV_int_01 1226.5367 And how long were you involved in that? 1228.1887 1043 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1229.5425 Well, [] you gonna make me embarrass myself [now.] 1233.3414 1044 PRV_int_01 1230.4824 [] 1231.2493 1045 PRV_int_01 1231.2493 (pause 1.51) 1232.7592 1046 PRV_int_01 1232.7592 [Oh. ] 1234.0041 1047 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1234.3449 Let me tell you. 1235.2395 1048 PRV_int_01 1235.2064 1235.8123 1049 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1235.6939 I realize 1236.8110 1050 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1239.1568 kids were not about me and I was most certainly not about them 1242.8036 1051 PRV_int_01 1242.8138 [Okay.] 1243.1830 1052 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1243.0504 [I had] a little boy that kicked me one day, 1245.0432 1053 PRV_int_01 1244.9533 Aw. 1245.4503 1054 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1246.0041 and I cried. I cried. I told, uh, the lead teacher that was 1250.9722 1055 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1250.9722 (pause 0.24) 1251.2089 1056 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1251.2089 w- w- 1251.5876 1057 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1251.5876 (pause 0.62) 1252.2124 1058 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1252.2124 the other lead teacher, 1253.1969 1059 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1253.1969 (pause 0.36) 1253.5519 1060 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1253.5519 I says, 1254.0632 1061 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1254.0632 (pause 0.16) 1254.2194 1062 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1254.2194 you know, 1254.5507 1063 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1254.5507 (pause 0.17) 1254.7191 1064 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1254.7191 I gotta go home. 1255.5569 1065 PRV_int_01 1255.7794 [] 1256.6407 1066 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1256.0113 [There is no] way 1256.9202 1067 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1257.2846 I can stay here with this kid and not punish him- [] 1260.1436 1068 PRV_int_01 1259.7981 [] 1261.3211 1069 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1261.4339 So I went home and after that I- I just realized /this, hey,/ this is not about me, you know? I had worked with kids 1268.5359 1070 PRV_int_01 1268.4677 Mm-hm. 1268.8581 1071 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1269.0101 in the- well I'll say in the 1270.3923 1072 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1270.3923 (pause 0.25) 1270.6384 1073 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1270.6384 surrounding of kids, but I was a secretary. I didn't have any direct contact with them. 1275.6302 1074 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1275.6302 (pause 0.63) 1276.2644 1075 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1276.2644 And, um, 1276.8751 1076 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1276.8751 (pause 0.23) 1277.1070 1077 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1277.1070 would you believe it, I have since then sub 1280.0350 1078 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1280.0350 (pause 0.60) 1280.6314 1079 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1280.6314 after the flood, 1281.7485 1080 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1281.7485 (pause 0.58) 1282.3300 1081 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1282.3300 we're right at a year 1283.3105 1082 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1283.3105 (pause 0.33) 1283.6419 1083 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1283.6419 and was begged to come back because of the tremendous job I had done. 1287.5686 1084 PRV_int_01 1287.7532 Oh. 1288.0798 1085 PRV_int_01 1288.0798 (pause 0.50) 1288.5769 1086 PRV_int_01 1288.5769 1289.4383 1087 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1289.6513 Can you believe it? I- 1291.0173 1088 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1291.0173 (pause 0.29) 1291.3061 1089 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1291.3061 I sit down sometimes over in my bedroom in the dark and I- 1294.1745 1090 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1294.1745 (pause 0.83) 1295.0029 1091 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1295.0029 I says I- I don't believe these people say I done an excellent job. 1298.4326 1092 PRV_int_01 1298.3285 1298.9533 1093 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1299.3178 And then I wouldn't stay in that profession when I was in it. 1301.8312 1094 PRV_int_01 1301.9874 Mm-hm. 1302.5554 1095 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1302.7617 So 1303.2445 1096 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1303.2445 (pause 0.16) 1303.4007 1097 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1303.4007 yes, 1304.1912 1098 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1304.1912 (pause 0.41) 1304.6030 1099 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1304.6030 and that was not for me. 1305.7816 1100 PRV_int_01 1305.8858 Mm. 1306.1603 1101 PRV_int_01 1306.1603 (pause 0.24) 1306.3970 1102 PRV_int_01 1306.3970 But it sounds like you started something that went on to have an impact in- 1310.0255 1103 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1310.1013 Oh yes, oh yes. And- and I feel good about that. [I] feel 1313.7271 1104 PRV_int_01 1313.0265 [Mm-hm.] 1313.3437 1105 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1314.1389 most good about that. 1315.6327 1106 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1315.6327 (pause 0.40) 1316.0303 1107 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1316.0303 [Mm-hm.] 1316.5273 1108 PRV_int_01 1316.1297 [Great.] 1316.4421 1109 PRV_int_01 1316.6267 You 1316.8492 1110 PRV_int_01 1316.8492 (pause 0.22) 1317.0669 1111 PRV_int_01 1317.0669 learned quickly that it wasn't your calling. [] 1319.8312 1112 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1319.3768 [Yes.] 1320.0537 1113 PRV_int_01 1320.0963 1320.9341 1114 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1320.9274 You know what it's like when a kid kick you [right here?] 1323.5923 1115 PRV_int_01 1322.8444 [] 1324.2786 1116 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1324.0846 [And] then you- 1324.8135 1117 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1324.9839 you grab it and he spat right up [there?] 1327.5711 1118 PRV_int_01 1327.0598 [Oh.] 1327.7321 1119 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1328.0965 And you- and- and the lead teacher see what's going on- on the other side of the classroom. She comes in, 1333.9829 1120 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1333.9829 (pause 0.36) 1334.3379 1121 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1334.3379 she says 1334.7734 1122 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1334.7734 (pause 0.25) 1335.0243 1123 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1335.0243 don't touch him, don't touch him. 1336.3923 1124 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1336.3923 (pause 0.47) 1336.8656 1125 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1336.8656 1337.7933 1126 PRV_int_01 1337.9590 Wow. 1338.5176 1127 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1339.2445 And tears were just running, and she says, go to the bathroom, go to the bathroom. 1343.1023 1128 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1343.1023 (pause 0.30) 1343.4005 1129 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1343.4005 Don't let him see you cry. 1344.6596 1130 PRV_int_01 1344.6764 1345.3820 1131 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1345.6516 It was painful. I was little. I was skinny. 1348.5343 1132 PRV_int_01 1348.6810 Mm. 1349.2821 1133 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1349.6939 [So it-] 1350.0253 1134 PRV_int_01 1349.7129 [You were?] 1349.9827 1135 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1350.2856 it was hurting. 1351.0930 1136 PRV_int_01 1351.1404 Yeah. 1351.5664 1137 PRV_int_01 1351.5664 (pause 0.55) 1352.1202 1138 PRV_int_01 1352.1202 Not too far out of school. 1353.5402 1139 PRV_int_01 1353.5402 (pause 0.39) 1353.9284 1140 PRV_int_01 1353.9284 Yeah. That's- 1355.3769 1141 PRV_int_01 1355.3769 (pause 0.54) 1355.9164 1142 PRV_int_01 1355.9164 Wow. So then after that, 1357.9167 1143 PRV_int_01 1357.9167 (pause 0.28) 1358.1959 1144 PRV_int_01 1358.1959 [you-] 1358.5746 1145 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1358.4515 [] 1358.6267 1146 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1359.1474 Well, 1360.1745 1147 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1360.1745 (pause 0.71) 1360.8893 1148 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1360.8893 mm. 1361.5141 1149 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1361.5141 (pause 1.64) 1363.1498 1150 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1363.1498 I did do some 1364.5083 1151 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1364.5083 (pause 0.24) 1364.7498 1152 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1364.7498 special /tutoria/ 1366.3639 1153 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1366.3639 (pause 0.88) 1367.2395 1154 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1367.2395 reading 1367.9117 1155 PRV_int_01 1368.6197 [Mm.] 1368.8185 1156 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1368.6386 [work] for the county. 1370.0066 1157 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1371.0006 Then I decided I wanted me a job that would 1374.0442 1158 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1374.0442 (pause 0.49) 1374.5365 1159 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1374.5365 give me a year round income, 1376.7640 1160 PRV_int_01 1376.7450 Mm-hm. 1377.2610 1161 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1377.2373 1377.3935 1162 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1378.0467 and, uh, I 1379.3295 1163 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1379.3295 (pause 1.47) 1380.8043 1164 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1380.8043 went with /RD-WORK-4/. 1382.5083 1165 PRV_int_01 1382.8870 Oh. 1383.1000 1166 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1383.5639 And I managed nine departments for them for like about four years 1387.6705 1167 PRV_int_01 1387.6942 Okay. 1388.0776 1168 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1388.5320 cause 1388.9486 1169 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1388.9486 (pause 1.15) 1390.0988 1170 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1390.0988 I basically 1391.1449 1171 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1391.1449 (pause 0.56) 1391.7034 1172 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1391.7034 just 1392.0064 1173 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1392.0064 (pause 0.24) 1392.2430 1174 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1392.2430 you know, 1392.6217 1175 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1392.6217 (pause 0.81) 1393.4339 1176 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1393.4339 looked into the stock being 1395.5639 1177 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1395.5639 (pause 0.61) 1396.1745 1178 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1396.1745 plentiful and 1397.1638 1179 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1397.1638 (pause 1.88) 1399.0457 1180 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1399.0457 help 1399.3676 1181 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1399.3676 (pause 0.76) 1400.1297 1182 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1400.1297 with the register and all of that. 1401.7864 1183 PRV_int_01 1401.8195 Mm-hm. 1402.1556 1184 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1402.2929 And so I stayed there. 1403.3342 1185 PRV_int_01 1403.7034 This was a department store? 1405.2161 1186 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1405.2303 [Yes.] /RD-WORK-4/. 1406.8018 1187 PRV_int_01 1405.5759 [Okay.] 1405.8930 1188 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1407.5923 Then I left there- 1408.8561 1189 PRV_int_01 1409.2727 The- that was in Tarboro? 1410.5176 1190 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1410.5318 Yes and I went to /RD-WORK-1/, 1412.1439 1191 PRV_int_01 1412.5083 Okay. 1412.9580 1192 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1412.8586 and then when I got to /RD-WORK-1/ 1414.4538 1193 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1415.5093 I left, and I been at the apartments every [since.] 1418.3427 1194 PRV_int_01 1418.2007 [Okay.] 1418.7119 1195 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1419.5592 That was truly my calling because 1421.3626 1196 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1421.3626 (pause 0.50) 1421.8644 1197 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1421.8644 in working with the apartments, I get to travel and train some other managers. 1426.5153 1198 PRV_int_01 1426.4396 Mm-hm. 1427.0029 1199 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1427.1638 I also 1428.4939 1200 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1428.4939 (pause 1.31) 1429.8078 1201 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1429.8078 attend workshops and training sessions and 1432.8041 1202 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1432.8041 (pause 1.15) 1433.9590 1203 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1433.9590 I- I thoroughly enjoy what I do now. 1436.0198 1204 PRV_int_01 1436.1486 Okay. 1436.4847 1205 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1436.5131 I am flexible. I'm my own boss. 1439.0833 1206 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1439.0833 (pause 0.52) 1439.6040 1207 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1439.6040 And then at that time when I went to this job at the apartments I had a son, 1444.3544 1208 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1444.3544 (pause 0.97) 1445.3247 1209 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1445.3247 uh, to leave home, and he went to /RD-SCHOOL-13/. 1450.0609 1210 PRV_int_01 1449.9426 Oh okay. 1450.5521 1211 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1450.6857 So that- I- I really need the flexibility and [th-] all of this just 1454.2461 1212 PRV_int_01 1453.1563 [Yeah.] 1453.3768 1213 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1454.3853 fell right in place. 1455.4124 1214 PRV_int_01 1455.2894 Mm. 1455.6207 1215 PRV_int_01 1455.9710 [Okay.] 1456.3544 1216 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1456.0846 [Mm-hm.] 1456.4633 1217 PRV_int_01 1457.2348 Now you said 1457.7413 1218 PRV_int_01 1457.7413 (pause 0.43) 1458.1748 1219 PRV_int_01 1458.1748 it was, uh, 1458.7712 1220 PRV_int_01 1458.7712 (pause 0.34) 1459.1120 1221 PRV_int_01 1459.1120 after the first of the month that it got pretty busy? 1461.7296 1222 PRV_int_01 1461.7296 (pause 0.82) 1462.5485 1223 PRV_int_01 1462.5485 1463.5945 1224 PRV_int_01 1463.5945 (pause 0.26) 1463.8502 1225 PRV_int_01 1463.8502 What happens at that time? Do you just- you have- you have to collect all the rent and everything? 1467.9804 1226 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1467.9899 Well I collect rent. 1469.5756 1227 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1469.5756 (pause 0.24) 1469.8123 1228 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1469.8123 I rent apartments. 1470.9889 1229 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1470.9889 (pause 0.76) 1471.7510 1230 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1471.7510 I do a lot of talking with people, interviews, and all that stuff. 1475.1307 1231 PRV_int_01 1475.1969 Aw. 1475.6797 1232 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1476.0490 And 1476.6075 1233 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1476.6075 (pause 0.32) 1476.9226 1234 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1476.9226 believe me, 1477.7037 1235 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1477.7037 (pause 0.84) 1478.5415 1236 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1478.5415 some people look at me 1479.7438 1237 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1479.7438 (pause 1.42) 1481.1638 1238 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1481.1638 in action, 1481.9164 1239 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1481.9164 (pause 0.23) 1482.1436 1240 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1482.1436 put wheels in motion /is in/ my job. 1484.4894 1241 PRV_int_01 1484.6551 Mm-hm. 1485.0385 1242 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1485.2610 And they says, how do you do it? (whispered) 1486.7567 1243 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1486.7567 (pause 0.79) 1487.5425 1244 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1487.5425 I couldn't remember half of the stuff you talk about to these people. 1490.6627 1245 PRV_int_01 1490.6740 Yeah. 1491.0953 1246 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1491.4740 But, 1491.8763 1247 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1491.8763 (pause 0.29) 1492.1698 1248 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1492.1698 you know, I love people. 1493.3247 1249 PRV_int_01 1493.3957 Mm. 1493.6939 1250 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1493.8170 I'm a- I'm a people person. 1495.2256 1251 PRV_int_01 1495.2398 Mm-hm. 1495.6516 1252 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1496.4231 I guess that's the reason I'm still a commissioner. 1498.4964 1253 PRV_int_01 1498.6242 Yeah. 1499.0786 1254 PRV_int_01 1499.0786 (pause 0.49) 1499.5661 1255 PRV_int_01 1499.5661 Well that's what I was gonna ask you too is 1501.2500 1256 PRV_int_01 1501.2500 (pause 0.62) 1501.8693 1257 PRV_int_01 1501.8693 how you- 1502.2717 1258 PRV_int_01 1502.2717 (pause 0.25) 1502.5178 1259 PRV_int_01 1502.5178 when 1502.9912 1260 PRV_int_01 1502.9912 (pause 0.22) 1503.2089 1261 PRV_int_01 1503.2089 uh, 1503.5544 1262 PRV_int_01 1503.5544 (pause 0.52) 1504.0704 1263 PRV_int_01 1504.0704 you decided to get into politics? 1506.2110 1264 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1506.5507 Well back in nineteen eighty eight I had a young lady that was 1510.1887 1265 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1510.1887 (pause 0.47) 1510.6621 1266 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1510.6621 renting an apartment from me, 1512.2525 1267 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1512.2525 (pause 0.42) 1512.6765 1268 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1512.6765 and she d- decided that she was going to leave the area. 1516.0988 1269 PRV_int_01 1516.4680 Mm-hm. 1516.7378 1270 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1517.6561 Uh, she at the time was representing ward two of Princeville. 1521.1000 1271 PRV_int_01 1521.2089 Mm-hm. 1521.5686 1272 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1521.6160 1521.7864 1273 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1521.7864 (pause 0.28) 1522.0656 1274 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1522.0656 And she moved I think down 1523.6513 1275 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1523.6513 (pause 0.48) 1524.1342 1276 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1524.1342 Georgia or Florida somewhere, 1525.9924 1277 PRV_int_01 1526.0397 Mkay. 1526.5557 1278 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1526.6740 and, uh, 1527.4929 1279 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1527.4929 (pause 0.80) 1528.2929 1280 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1528.2929 /RD-NAME-5/, 1529.3626 1281 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1529.3626 (pause 0.34) 1529.6987 1282 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1529.6987 a dear friend and the mayor at that time, 1532.3001 1283 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1532.3001 (pause 0.87) 1533.1663 1284 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1533.1663 uh, 1533.5686 1285 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1533.5686 (pause 0.44) 1534.0088 1286 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1534.0088 called me and asked me would I 1535.7176 1287 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1535.7176 (pause 0.39) 1536.1058 1288 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1536.1058 complete her term. 1537.2958 1289 PRV_int_01 1537.7557 Hm. 1538.0066 1290 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1538.1865 And I said yes, 1539.3225 1291 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1539.3225 (pause 1.24) 1540.5627 1292 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1540.5627 without thinking. 1541.4904 1293 PRV_int_01 1541.7260 1542.5791 1294 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1542.5676 And from 1543.7652 1295 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1545.5734 then 1546.0467 1296 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1546.0467 (pause 0.23) 1546.2786 1297 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1546.2786 through present, I been there. 1547.8312 1298 PRV_int_01 1547.9590 Okay. 1548.4229 1299 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1548.8138 Mm-hm. 1549.2493 1300 PRV_int_01 1549.3913 And- 1549.6942 1301 PRV_int_01 1549.6942 (pause 0.37) 1550.0634 1302 PRV_int_01 1550.0634 and what has that experience been like? 1551.7296 1303 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1552.8088 1553.9780 1304 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1553.9780 (pause 0.94) 1554.9179 1305 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1554.9179 It's been beautiful. 1555.8362 1306 PRV_int_01 1556.0113 Really? 1556.3379 1307 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1556.9959 It has because, you know, 1558.0798 1308 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1558.0798 (pause 0.71) 1558.7899 1309 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1558.7899 uh, from ninety- 1560.1484 1310 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1560.1484 (pause 0.74) 1560.8848 1311 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1560.8848 three, ninety four (whispering) 1561.6043 1312 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1561.6043 (pause 0.22) 1561.8267 1313 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1561.8267 ninety four, ninety five, ninety six (whispering)- 1563.4408 1314 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1563.4408 (pause 0.56) 1564.0041 1315 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1564.0041 Well 1564.3307 1316 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1564.3307 (pause 1.05) 1565.3768 1317 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1565.3768 ninety two I believe it was, I left office. 1568.2433 1318 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1568.2433 (pause 0.71) 1568.9580 1319 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1568.9580 I decided that when /RD-NAME-2/ was gonna leave 1571.4809 1320 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1571.4809 (pause 0.72) 1572.2004 1321 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1572.2004 his mayorship 1573.1735 1322 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1573.1735 (pause 0.62) 1573.7983 1323 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1573.7983 I no longer wanted to be there. 1575.8290 1324 PRV_int_01 1575.8858 Mm-hm. 1576.3544 1325 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1576.7993 And then after 1577.9070 1326 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1577.9070 (pause 0.85) 1578.7522 1327 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1578.7522 uh, /RD-NAME-3/ came in and they 1580.8444 1328 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1580.8444 (pause 0.48) 1581.3225 1329 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1581.3225 took our finance records and everything 1583.5614 1330 PRV_int_01 1583.7365 Mm. 1584.1389 1331 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1584.4844 and we fell in the hand of 1586.1344 1332 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1586.1344 (pause 0.54) 1586.6740 1333 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1586.6740 total disaster and it wasn't a flood, 1588.8703 1334 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1588.8703 (pause 0.77) 1589.6371 1335 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1589.6371 I decided I had to go back. 1591.5848 1336 PRV_int_01 1591.7415 1592.4515 1337 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1592.5036 So that's when I learned how much I love Princeville. 1595.3437 1338 PRV_int_01 1595.4005 Mm-hm. 1595.8880 1339 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1596.5460 And 1597.1045 1340 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1597.1045 (pause 0.29) 1597.3960 1341 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1597.3960 I went back, 1598.3947 1342 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1598.3947 (pause 1.16) 1599.5544 1343 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1599.5544 and I'm still there. 1600.8419 1344 PRV_int_01 1601.0549 Hm. 1601.2679 1345 PRV_int_01 1601.2679 (pause 2.37) 1603.6421 1346 PRV_int_01 1603.6421 And you were here 1604.6077 1347 PRV_int_01 1604.6077 (pause 0.62) 1605.2231 1348 PRV_int_01 1605.2231 during the flood? 1606.0372 1349 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1606.4112 Yes. 1607.0360 1350 PRV_int_01 1607.0597 So that kind of threw you into action as well? 1609.7944 1351 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1610.2575 Oh yes. 1611.0338 1352 PRV_int_01 1611.6964 And what was that time like? Both as a commissioner and a- as a 1615.1376 1353 PRV_int_01 1615.1376 (pause 0.53) 1615.6658 1354 PRV_int_01 1615.6658 citizen? 1616.3001 1355 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1617.5876 Well, uh, 1618.8656 1356 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1618.8656 (pause 1.74) 1620.6008 1357 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1620.6008 1620.7002 1358 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1620.7002 (pause 0.76) 1621.4575 1359 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1621.4575 when the flood came, 1622.6361 1360 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1622.6361 (pause 2.31) 1624.9461 1361 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1624.9461 I was 1625.6277 1362 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1625.6277 (pause 0.28) 1625.9117 1363 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1625.9117 feeling 1626.5176 1364 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1626.5176 (pause 0.43) 1626.9510 1365 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1626.9510 very good about Princeville. 1628.8965 1366 PRV_int_01 1629.3724 Mm-hm. 1629.7236 1367 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1629.9378 We had a million dollars 1631.3437 1368 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1631.3437 (pause 1.49) 1632.8347 1369 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1632.8347 in the 1633.2682 1370 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1633.2682 (pause 1.38) 1634.6456 1371 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1634.6456 bank. 1635.2752 1372 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1635.2752 (pause 0.69) 1635.9662 1373 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1635.9662 Our general funds were looking really good. I mean, 1639.5853 1374 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1639.5853 (pause 0.52) 1640.1013 1375 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1640.1013 we were- Let me say like this, I felt like we were in power. [] 1644.9010 1376 PRV_int_01 1643.7120 [Mm.] 1643.9877 1377 PRV_int_01 1643.9877 (pause 0.57) 1644.5582 1378 PRV_int_01 1644.5582 [] 1644.9416 1379 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1645.3913 And 1645.8173 1380 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1645.8173 (pause 0.23) 1646.0492 1381 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1646.0492 we were going places, doing [things.] 1648.4964 1382 PRV_int_01 1648.3923 [Yeah.] 1648.6147 1383 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1648.6668 Princeville was shining. It was glowing. 1651.0883 1384 PRV_int_01 1651.0646 Mm-hm. 1651.5427 1385 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1652.1202 And 1652.6172 1386 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1652.6172 (pause 0.98) 1653.5923 1387 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1653.5923 then one night, 1654.8041 1388 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1654.8041 (pause 1.59) 1656.3898 1389 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1656.3898 I realized 1657.1376 1390 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1657.1376 (pause 0.73) 1657.8693 1391 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1657.8693 it was raining. Then the next day it was still raining. 1660.7662 1392 PRV_int_01 1660.9508 Mm. 1661.2490 1393 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1661.5425 Then by the evening it was still raining. 1663.8930 1394 PRV_int_01 1664.0019 Mm. 1664.3095 1395 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1664.9060 And 1665.3320 1396 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1665.3320 (pause 0.92) 1666.2502 1397 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1666.2502 I'm nervously just sitting there. 1668.2288 1398 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1668.2288 (pause 1.04) 1669.2729 1399 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1669.2729 And I get a call from 1670.6503 1400 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1670.6503 (pause 0.65) 1671.2988 1401 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1671.2988 the mayor, 1671.9662 1402 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1671.9662 (pause 0.45) 1672.4207 1403 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1672.4207 and she's- she's telling me I need to get my people out. 1675.1262 1404 PRV_int_01 1675.4197 Mm. 1675.8173 1405 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1676.7734 So- 1677.3320 1406 PRV_int_01 1678.1130 This was like, 1678.9887 1407 PRV_int_01 1678.9887 (pause 0.55) 1679.5425 1408 PRV_int_01 1679.5425 Thursday? 1680.0679 1409 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1680.0821 This was on a Thursday. 1681.3534 1410 PRV_int_01 1681.2682 Okay. 1681.6137 1411 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1682.1391 So I sat there and I'm, 1683.7769 1412 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1683.7769 (pause 0.37) 1684.1461 1413 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1684.1461 well I don't- 1684.8088 1414 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1684.8088 (pause 0.82) 1685.6252 1415 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1685.6252 where I'm gonna tell these people to go? 1687.4197 1416 PRV_int_01 1687.7226 Hm. 1687.9451 1417 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1688.4089 So by this time, the phone was ringing again. It was my brother-in-law 1691.7034 1418 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1691.7034 (pause 0.90) 1692.6008 1419 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1692.6008 and a nephew. 1693.5333 1420 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1693.5333 (pause 0.18) 1693.7084 1421 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1693.7084 They were calling me 1694.7829 1422 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1694.7829 (pause 1.07) 1695.8479 1423 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1695.8479 to let me know that I really need to get serious and get my people out. 1698.9862 1424 PRV_int_01 1699.1120 Mm. 1699.4124 1425 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1699.3392 But see 1699.8125 1426 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1700.4421 the hang up came 1701.5781 1427 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1701.5781 (pause 0.43) 1702.0088 1428 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1702.0088 because I had been calling the sheriff department 1704.4020 1429 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1704.4020 (pause 0.22) 1704.6197 1430 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1704.6197 inquiring about the water 1706.1770 1431 PRV_int_01 1706.3805 Mm-hm. 1706.7119 1432 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1706.9533 and they couldn't tell me anything or they wouldn't tell me anything 1709.8170 1433 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1709.8170 (pause 0.23) 1710.0490 1434 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1710.0490 1710.1768 1435 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1710.1768 (pause 0.27) 1710.4418 1436 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1710.4418 but nevertheless, 1711.2919 1437 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1711.2919 (pause 0.68) 1711.9687 1438 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1711.9687 I decided I had to do what had to be done, so 1714.4585 1439 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1714.4585 (pause 0.54) 1714.9981 1440 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1714.9981 neglecting myself, 1716.3519 1441 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1716.3519 (pause 0.18) 1716.5270 1442 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1716.5270 I leap from that chair in the office 1719.0574 1443 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1719.0574 (pause 0.25) 1719.3036 1444 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1719.3036 cause I was living in the apartment 1720.8277 1445 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1720.8277 (pause 0.33) 1721.1543 1446 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1721.1543 next to the office. 1722.3424 1447 PRV_int_01 1722.4114 Mm. 1722.6055 1448 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1722.6150 I was a site manager at th- what they called me at that time. 1725.3888 1449 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1725.3888 (pause 0.62) 1726.0136 1450 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1726.0136 So, uh, my husband, 1727.7318 1451 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1727.7318 (pause 0.27) 1727.9969 1452 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1727.9969 he was on- 1728.5128 1453 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1728.5128 (pause 0.58) 1729.0930 1454 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1729.0930 he had just retired. He had just retired, bless his heart. 1732.1603 1455 PRV_int_01 1732.2739 Mm-hm. 1732.6147 1456 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1732.9082 And we went out and we were 1734.4229 1457 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1734.4229 (pause 1.37) 1735.7889 1458 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1735.7889 banging on doors because my sister, being a nervous wreck as she can become, 1739.7129 1459 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1739.7129 (pause 0.30) 1740.0158 1460 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1740.0158 we had gone to her house and gotten her and brought her over there. 1742.5462 1461 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1742.5462 (pause 0.30) 1742.8444 1462 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1742.8444 So all of us got out and we went around and banged and beat on the windows and the doors to alert all the people 1748.7071 1463 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1748.7071 (pause 0.29) 1749.0006 1464 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1749.0006 that they needed to get out. 1750.2313 1465 PRV_int_01 1750.4301 Mm-hm. 1750.7757 1466 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1751.4857 And I went through a lot of insults but I can deal with that. I had par- I had mothers to come over there to see about their daughters after 1758.3188 1467 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1758.3188 (pause 0.30) 1758.6217 1468 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1758.6217 they got on the phone and called 'em and told 'em I said they needed to leave. 1761.7485 1469 PRV_int_01 1761.9284 Mm. 1762.4680 1470 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1762.5627 And uh, they cursed me and they- [] 1765.2500 1471 PRV_int_01 1764.4635 [] 1765.2777 1472 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1765.4007 they verbally abused me but I got over it. 1767.7154 1473 PRV_int_01 1767.6680 Okay. 1768.0988 1474 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1768.4207 But I got 'em all out 1769.9874 1475 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1769.9874 (pause 0.80) 1770.7901 1476 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1770.7901 but one little lady, 1771.8883 1477 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1771.8883 (pause 0.16) 1772.0445 1478 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1772.0445 one of my elderlies, 1773.5828 1479 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1773.5828 (pause 0.97) 1774.5485 1480 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1774.5485 and she refused to leave. She said she was gonna wait for her son. 1777.9687 1481 PRV_int_01 1778.2575 Hm. 1778.5225 1482 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1779.2420 So I guess 1780.5390 1483 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1780.5390 (pause 0.66) 1781.1969 1484 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1781.1969 she waited for her son and the next morning, I understand his 1784.2149 1485 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1784.2149 (pause 0.35) 1784.5604 1486 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1784.5604 vehicle drowned in the water. 1786.2692 1487 PRV_int_01 1786.3355 Wow. 1786.6337 1488 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1786.7378 Uh, the mo- the engine drowned in the water and he just did get her out of there in time but 1791.3840 1489 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1791.3840 (pause 0.35) 1791.7343 1490 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1791.7343 later I was told by the police that I'd done the best thing 1795.2303 1491 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1795.2303 (pause 0.42) 1795.6516 1492 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1795.6516 not to 1796.3616 1493 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1796.3616 (pause 0.15) 1796.5131 1494 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1796.5131 force her out 1797.3698 1495 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1797.3698 (pause 0.96) 1798.3270 1496 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1798.3270 because she had her rights. 1799.8833 1497 PRV_int_01 1799.9638 [Mm-hm.] 1800.4286 1498 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1800.1010 [And I] woulda been in the wrong. So today I'm happy I didn't touch her. 1803.3556 1499 PRV_int_01 1803.4456 Mm-hm. 1803.9804 1500 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1804.4585 And, uh, I'm very happy to say that she's still alive and well too. 1808.5557 1501 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1808.5557 (pause 0.80) 1809.3509 1502 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1809.3509 [But-] 1809.7343 1503 PRV_int_01 1809.5781 [Do you] remember her name? 1810.5816 1504 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1810.7804 Uh, her name was, uh, 1812.2951 1505 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1812.2951 (pause 0.33) 1812.6292 1506 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1812.6292 1812.8043 1507 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1812.8043 (pause 0.22) 1813.0220 1508 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1813.0220 /RD-NAME-4/. 1814.3332 1509 PRV_int_01 1814.3190 Okay. 1814.8539 1510 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1814.9391 Mm-hm. 1815.4314 1511 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1815.4314 (pause 0.21) 1815.6444 1512 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1815.6444 1815.8242 1513 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1815.8242 (pause 0.36) 1816.1792 1514 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1816.1792 So 1816.6810 1515 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1816.6810 (pause 0.39) 1817.0739 1516 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1817.0739 I about- 1817.5283 1517 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1817.5283 (pause 0.16) 1817.6845 1518 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1817.6845 I- I guess it played on my conscious that I didn't get her out and 1821.2941 1519 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1821.2941 (pause 0.47) 1821.7674 1520 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1821.7674 things being as they were and the water staying in here so long, 1824.9644 1521 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1824.9644 (pause 0.09) 1825.0594 1522 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1825.0594 I didn't get to see any of my people. 1827.1284 1523 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1827.1284 (pause 0.18) 1827.3036 1524 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1827.3036 Any- as- as my husband say, any of your folks. 1829.9117 1525 PRV_int_01 1830.0490 Hm. [] 1830.8300 1526 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1830.6434 [So] 1831.2209 1527 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1831.6232 one day I happen to go the clinic 1833.8432 1528 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1833.8432 (pause 0.76) 1834.6005 1529 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1834.6005 and when I turn around, 1835.8359 1530 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1835.8359 (pause 0.87) 1836.7049 1531 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1836.7049 here this lady stands. 1838.1865 1532 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1838.1865 (pause 0.20) 1838.3900 1533 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1838.3900 Oh I almost picked her up. 1840.1082 1534 PRV_int_01 1840.1177 Mm. 1841.2632 1535 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1841.6892 Cause really in the back of my heart, it had been troubling me just how she was getting along, you know. 1847.4951 1536 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1847.4951 (pause 0.73) 1848.2241 1537 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1848.2241 And so she's fine. 1849.7131 1538 PRV_int_01 1849.8267 Great. 1850.2054 1539 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1850.3237 She is great. I'm doing just fine, I'm telling you, so 1853.4099 1540 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1853.4099 (pause 0.46) 1853.8738 1541 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1853.8738 that was a relief. 1854.8347 1542 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1854.8347 (pause 0.45) 1855.2824 1543 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1855.2824 But 1855.9214 1544 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1855.9214 (pause 2.40) 1858.3213 1545 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1858.3213 I suffered because 1860.0963 1546 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1860.0963 (pause 0.74) 1860.8374 1547 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1860.8374 I couldn't 1861.6043 1548 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1861.6043 (pause 0.89) 1862.4989 1549 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1862.4989 bring myself to focus on 1864.3591 1550 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1864.3591 (pause 0.89) 1865.2490 1551 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1865.2490 the town, 1866.0348 1552 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1866.0348 (pause 0.25) 1866.2856 1553 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1866.2856 [so] 1866.8489 1554 PRV_int_01 1866.3188 [Mm.] 1866.5412 1555 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1867.8693 I was down with my sister and her 1870.0278 1556 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1870.0278 (pause 0.19) 1870.2218 1557 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1870.2218 fiance. 1870.9934 1558 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1870.9934 (pause 0.97) 1871.9590 1559 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1871.9590 That's where all my family went 1873.3581 1560 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1873.3581 (pause 0.50) 1873.8599 1561 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1873.8599 when we left the mall that night, we went there to his house. 1877.5567 1562 PRV_int_01 1877.8644 So you got- you got out in plenty of time [then?] 1880.0681 1563 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1879.8788 [Yes.] 1880.4042 1564 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1880.8823 Yes. 1881.3888 1565 PRV_int_01 1881.2704 [/?/] 1881.5828 1566 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1881.5497 We- we only lost all of our household furnishing. 1884.6028 1567 PRV_int_01 1884.7637 Mm. 1885.0903 1568 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1885.3061 And, um, 1886.2622 1569 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1886.2622 (pause 1.28) 1887.5450 1570 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1887.5450 I'm gonna make you laugh. 1888.5769 1571 PRV_int_01 1888.7662 Okay. 1889.2585 1572 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1889.3058 And, um, 1889.9306 1573 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1889.9306 (pause 0.13) 1890.0652 1574 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1890.0652 1890.1737 1575 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1890.1737 (pause 0.29) 1890.4635 1576 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1890.4635 we even lost some money in the flood, but 1892.4231 1577 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1892.4231 (pause 0.12) 1892.5462 1578 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1892.5462 we came back later and we recovered that. 1894.6668 1579 PRV_int_01 1894.8987 Really? 1895.2537 1580 PRV_int_01 1895.2537 (pause 0.78) 1896.0348 1581 PRV_int_01 1896.0348 How- [/inaudible/] 1897.0240 1582 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1896.5365 [My husband] had just gotten his income tax check, 1899.2184 1583 PRV_int_01 1899.2657 Uh-huh. 1899.6775 1584 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1899.6728 and, um, we had a- 1900.7425 1585 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1901.5709 a bar that sat 1902.7069 1586 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1902.7069 (pause 0.20) 1902.9037 1587 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1902.9037 center of one of the [walls in] the dining area. And he had s- left the check up there 1907.6797 1588 PRV_int_01 1904.3900 [Uh.] 1904.6456 1589 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1907.9212 and some more cash money from [rent.] 1910.1060 1590 PRV_int_01 1909.9640 [Mm-hm.] 1910.3379 1591 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1910.4375 1910.5393 1592 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1910.5393 (pause 0.47) 1911.0101 1593 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1911.0101 And, um, we came back- you wouldn't believe it- we 1913.6939 1594 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1913.6939 (pause 0.26) 1913.9543 1595 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1913.9543 got everything cleaned out of the apartment, and he was going in the bathroom. 1917.8242 1596 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1917.8242 (pause 1.33) 1919.1543 1597 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1919.1543 And he had given up on the money, 1921.0193 1598 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1921.0193 (pause 0.53) 1921.5475 1599 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1921.5475 so 1922.0350 1600 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1922.0350 (pause 0.53) 1922.5604 1601 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1922.5604 he w- goes in the bathroom and he happened to look. 1925.3105 1602 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1925.3105 (pause 1.04) 1926.3472 1603 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1926.3472 Here lay the Bible, 1927.6279 1604 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1927.6279 (pause 1.60) 1929.2278 1605 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1929.2278 the envelope, 1930.1792 1606 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1930.1792 (pause 1.68) 1931.8549 1607 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1931.8549 resting beside it 1932.9862 1608 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1932.9862 (pause 0.77) 1933.7557 1609 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1933.7557 the money 1934.3853 1610 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1934.3853 (pause 0.17) 1934.5509 1611 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1934.5509 scattered about 1935.5166 1612 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1935.5166 (pause 0.77) 1936.2834 1613 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1936.2834 a foot around 1937.1780 1614 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1937.1780 (pause 0.55) 1937.7318 1615 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1937.7318 in that same area. 1938.9341 1616 PRV_int_01 1939.5380 Crazy. 1940.1912 1617 PRV_int_01 1940.1912 (pause 0.92) 1941.1142 1618 PRV_int_01 1941.1142 Just laying there. 1941.8716 1619 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1941.8858 Just laying there, waiting for us to come and get it. [] 1944.8394 1620 PRV_int_01 1944.1152 [Wow. (laughing)] 1945.3723 1621 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1945.7415 But you know when I came over here and went in that apartment, 1949.1070 1622 PRV_int_01 1949.6182 Uh-huh. 1950.0632 1623 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1950.4560 I told my husband, 1951.5475 1624 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1951.5475 (pause 0.32) 1951.8646 1625 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1951.8646 I said it looks just like the devil himself got up in here and made a stew. 1955.8502 1626 PRV_int_01 1955.9401 Mm. 1956.2430 1627 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1957.1641 And 1957.6800 1628 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1957.6800 (pause 0.15) 1957.8267 1629 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1957.8267 my- I- I wouldn't have never believed that 1960.1035 1630 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1960.1035 (pause 0.57) 1960.6763 1631 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1960.6763 furniture on top of furniture. 1962.8232 1632 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1962.8232 (pause 1.06) 1963.8835 1633 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1963.8835 Our big nice console TV, 1966.2550 1634 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1966.2550 (pause 0.96) 1967.2111 1635 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1967.2111 I think it was standing on its side, resting on the [side.] 1970.3805 1636 PRV_int_01 1970.1817 [Uh-huh.] 1970.5888 1637 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1971.2657 Uh, 1971.7154 1638 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1971.7154 (pause 0.71) 1972.4301 1639 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1972.4301 but, you know, 1973.1969 1640 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1973.1969 (pause 0.23) 1973.4289 1641 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1973.4289 I- like I say, the flood, it really never t- 1976.0303 1642 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1976.0303 (pause 0.20) 1976.2338 1643 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1976.2338 dawned on me how 1977.6160 1644 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1977.6160 (pause 1.41) 1979.0265 1645 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1979.0265 devastating our situation was [until,] 1981.9072 1646 PRV_int_01 1981.0978 [Mm.] 1981.3581 1647 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1983.3982 uh, 1983.8668 1648 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1983.8668 (pause 2.11) 1985.9780 1649 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1985.9780 I realized one day they called me and said we got to meet, we gotta 1989.1568 1650 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1989.1568 (pause 0.18) 1989.3414 1651 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1989.3414 decide what we gonna do about our town. 1991.3295 1652 PRV_int_01 1991.3815 Mm. 1991.5993 1653 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1992.8678 And my husband say, you gotta go to the meeting /RD-NAME-1/. 1995.9142 1654 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1995.9142 (pause 0.36) 1996.2692 1655 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1996.2692 Cause I was going around in a daze you know. 1998.6501 1656 PRV_int_01 1998.6406 Mm. 1998.9956 1657 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 1999.2919 So I got dressed and I went to the meeting. 2001.6018 1658 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2001.6018 (pause 0.18) 2001.7864 1659 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2001.7864 All these 2002.3733 1660 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2002.3733 (pause 0.39) 2002.7662 1661 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2002.7662 Corps of Engineers 2003.7886 1662 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2003.7886 (pause 0.18) 2003.9732 1663 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2003.9732 people and everybody there to 2005.6043 1664 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2005.6043 (pause 0.60) 2006.2054 1665 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2006.2054 talk with us and ask- 2007.7958 1666 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2007.7958 (pause 0.15) 2007.9426 1667 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2007.9426 answer any questions that we had to ask. 2010.0679 1668 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2010.0679 (pause 1.22) 2011.2919 1669 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2011.2919 And, uh, 2011.9593 1670 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2011.9593 (pause 2.28) 2014.2408 1671 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2014.2408 I realized then, 2015.4099 1672 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2015.4099 (pause 0.47) 2015.8786 1673 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2015.8786 hey, 2016.5081 1674 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2016.5081 (pause 2.30) 2018.8066 1675 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2018.8066 you and the citizens of Princeville 2020.6715 1676 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2020.6715 (pause 0.40) 2021.0691 1677 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2021.0691 have no town and you gotta make some decisions about your town. 2024.5557 1678 PRV_int_01 2024.7829 [Mm.] 2025.0290 1679 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2024.8444 [So] you gotta stick with these other commissioners and the mayor. 2027.7697 1680 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2028.5128 So after that I got involved 2030.6787 1681 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2030.6787 (pause 0.91) 2031.5923 1682 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2031.5923 but 2032.0278 1683 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2032.0278 (pause 0.15) 2032.1745 1684 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2032.1745 then finally one day uh, they told us we could come back to Princeville, 2035.7747 1685 PRV_int_01 2036.0255 Mm-hm. 2036.3711 1686 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2036.8776 and, uh, when I came over here, 2038.7899 1687 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2038.7899 (pause 0.41) 2039.2017 1688 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2039.2017 it's still like- it was just like I was dreaming, you know? 2041.5853 1689 PRV_int_01 2041.6800 Yeah. Mm-hm. 2042.4301 1690 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2042.5793 And 2043.0811 1691 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2043.0811 (pause 0.85) 2043.9284 1692 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2043.9284 my husband said we gotta clean up. We got to start 2046.3992 1693 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2046.3992 (pause 1.47) 2047.8646 1694 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2047.8646 doing things. 2048.7687 1695 PRV_int_01 2048.8634 Mm-hm. 2049.2184 1696 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2049.8148 And I didn't realize it 2051.0076 1697 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2051.0076 (pause 0.53) 2051.5377 1698 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2051.5377 until the people came in 2053.1187 1699 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2053.1187 (pause 1.87) 2054.9864 1700 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2054.9864 from up in Pennsylvania and 2056.6952 1701 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2056.6952 (pause 0.77) 2057.4667 1702 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2057.4667 they start 2058.1105 1703 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2058.1105 (pause 0.52) 2058.6264 1704 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2058.6264 helping me clean out 2059.7841 1705 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2059.7841 (pause 0.57) 2060.3521 1706 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2060.3521 my furniture and 2061.7012 1707 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2061.7012 (pause 1.02) 2062.7189 1708 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2062.7189 it still didn't dawn on me until they brought my piano out 2065.4481 1709 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2065.4481 (pause 1.37) 2066.8208 1710 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2066.8208 and, you know, I- here I am, 2068.9508 1711 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2068.9508 (pause 0.20) 2069.1543 1712 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2069.1543 I've watch one son 2070.6264 1713 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2070.6264 (pause 1.13) 2071.7557 1714 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2071.7557 in college play that piano, 2073.3698 1715 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2073.3698 (pause 0.74) 2074.1082 1716 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2074.1082 learned to play there in that living room on that piano. 2076.5270 1717 PRV_int_01 2076.7211 Mm. 2076.9767 1718 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2076.9842 And here's 2077.6327 1719 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2077.6327 (pause 0.15) 2077.7794 1720 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2077.7794 his son now learning to use it, 2079.6917 1721 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2079.6917 (pause 0.66) 2080.3544 1722 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2080.3544 and when they brought that piano out, it was something about that way that piano just- 2084.4799 1723 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2084.4799 (pause 0.66) 2085.1379 1724 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2085.1379 the legs just folded up. 2086.8230 1725 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2086.8230 (pause 0.78) 2087.5993 1726 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2087.5993 And oh, I just start boohooing. 2089.6705 1727 PRV_int_01 2089.7841 Hm. 2090.0539 1728 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2090.6030 That was the first time I cried. 2091.9615 1729 PRV_int_01 2092.1362 Really? 2092.4727 1730 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2093.2253 The very first time. 2094.6075 1731 PRV_int_01 2094.6548 Mm. 2094.9436 1732 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2095.8220 And, uh, I realized then that everything was gone. 2098.9555 1733 PRV_int_01 2099.1780 Yeah. 2099.5235 1734 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2101.0599 And I cried and I got it over with and 2103.7769 1735 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2103.7769 (pause 1.57) 2105.3484 1736 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2105.3484 the little ladies from up there, 2107.4055 1737 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2107.4055 (pause 0.34) 2107.7463 1738 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2107.7463 they brought out various things and asked me if I wanted to save them. 2111.3768 1739 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2111.3768 (pause 1.15) 2112.5223 1740 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2112.5223 And I told /her/, I didn't know. 2113.9640 1741 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2113.9640 (pause 0.20) 2114.1675 1742 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2114.1675 I just didn't know. 2115.1000 1743 PRV_int_01 2115.3320 Mm. 2115.6586 1744 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2116.4443 And- 2116.9224 1745 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2116.9224 (pause 1.22) 2118.1389 1746 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2118.1389 [an-] 2118.4087 1747 PRV_int_01 2118.1578 [But up] until that point, you hadn't- it hadn't really hit [you yet.] 2120.7687 1748 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2120.4373 [It- it] hadn't really hit me. 2121.8195 1749 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2121.9520 I was attending the meetings concerning the town. 2124.2951 1750 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2124.2951 (pause 0.86) 2125.1593 1751 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2125.1593 but when they brought that piano out and, uh, 2127.5970 1752 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2127.5970 (pause 1.74) 2129.3342 1753 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2129.3342 I realized 2130.0774 1754 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2130.0774 (pause 0.74) 2130.8138 1755 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2130.8138 I was looking s- s- so forward to my little grandson playing that piano 2135.6277 1756 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2135.6277 (pause 0.33) 2135.9590 1757 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2135.9590 because he had start stroking 2137.6895 1758 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2137.6895 (pause 0.64) 2138.3332 1759 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2138.3332 the keyboard you know? 2139.3414 1760 PRV_int_01 2139.4740 Mm-hm. 2139.9899 1761 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2140.3260 And= and when they brought that piano out, 2142.6359 1762 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2142.6359 (pause 0.23) 2142.8658 1763 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2142.8658 it was just like, 2143.7321 1764 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2143.7321 (pause 0.52) 2144.2480 1765 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2144.2480 ooh. 2144.7024 1766 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2144.7024 (pause 1.29) 2145.9899 1767 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2145.9899 The rain came back. 2147.1638 1768 PRV_int_01 2147.1638 Mm. 2147.4478 1769 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2149.4907 And I'm saving this space hopefully I'll get one. 2152.0988 1770 PRV_int_01 2152.2266 Okay. 2152.7189 1771 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2152.8419 Get another one anyway. 2155.0950 1772 PRV_int_01 2155.3155 Mm. 2155.6232 1773 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2156.0255 But, uh, 2156.5793 1774 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2156.5793 (pause 0.99) 2157.5686 1775 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2157.5686 it- that was 2158.3733 1776 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2158.3733 (pause 0.33) 2158.7047 1777 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2158.7047 really 2159.1922 1778 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2159.1922 (pause 0.23) 2159.4241 1779 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2159.4241 the most devastating point. 2160.8962 1780 PRV_int_01 2161.3392 Mm-hm. 2161.7321 1781 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2162.9344 A realization 2164.0230 1782 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2164.0230 (pause 0.42) 2164.4396 1783 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2164.4396 of that flood right there and then for me. 2166.8773 1784 PRV_int_01 2167.2019 Mm. 2167.4954 1785 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2167.9451 Out of all that, I realize 2169.9852 1786 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2169.9852 (pause 0.35) 2170.3307 1787 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2170.3307 that we're gone, 2171.2963 1788 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2171.2963 (pause 1.00) 2172.2998 1789 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2172.2998 it was 2172.7779 1790 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2172.7779 (pause 0.23) 2173.0031 1791 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2173.0031 not 2173.4433 1792 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2173.4433 (pause 0.79) 2174.2338 1793 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2174.2338 real to me until that moment. 2175.9331 1794 PRV_int_01 2176.1603 Yeah. 2176.4349 1795 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2178.2383 So 2178.7116 1796 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2178.7116 (pause 0.58) 2179.2966 1797 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2179.2966 I'm still- 2179.9593 1798 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2179.9593 (pause 1.16) 2181.1237 1799 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2181.1237 sometimes I think about it. I go right to that 2183.4999 1800 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2183.4999 (pause 0.47) 2183.9685 1801 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2183.9685 very /pont/- point to realize. 2186.2480 1802 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2186.2480 (pause 0.44) 2186.6929 1803 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2186.6929 And, uh, believe me, we were dreaming about going to Hawaii, doing all those glamorous things with our savings 2193.1758 1804 PRV_int_01 2193.3036 Mm-hm. 2193.7390 1805 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2193.7106 and now you see our savings. 2195.6987 1806 PRV_int_01 2195.8928 Okay. 2196.4114 1807 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2198.3569 This is it. 2198.9770 1808 PRV_int_01 2199.1237 Okay. 2199.6775 1809 PRV_int_01 2199.6775 (pause 0.31) 2199.9899 1810 PRV_int_01 2199.9899 Well it's 2200.6479 1811 PRV_int_01 2200.6479 (pause 0.86) 2201.5046 1812 PRV_int_01 2201.5046 gone to good use. It's a 2202.9578 1813 PRV_int_01 2202.9578 (pause 0.31) 2203.2682 1814 PRV_int_01 2203.2682 [beautiful home.] 2204.0539 1815 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2203.4386 [Yes.] 2203.9640 1816 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2204.1959 Thank you but 2205.0006 1817 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2205.0006 (pause 0.85) 2205.8526 1818 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2205.8526 I- I got busy and made up my mind that 2208.6596 1819 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2208.6596 (pause 0.32) 2208.9794 1820 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2208.9794 I didn't know anything- 2210.3237 1821 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2210.3237 (pause 1.74) 2212.0609 1822 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2212.0609 I didn't know any place else but Princeville. 2214.8820 1823 PRV_int_01 2215.0883 Mm-hm. 2215.4575 1824 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2215.9167 And 2216.3001 1825 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2216.3001 (pause 0.69) 2216.9912 1826 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2216.9912 this was gonna still be my home. 2218.5911 1827 PRV_int_01 2219.2395 Yeah, I was gonna say that- 2220.7901 1828 PRV_int_01 2220.7901 (pause 0.18) 2220.9652 1829 PRV_int_01 2220.9652 that whole decision again as a commissioner 2223.4172 1830 PRV_int_01 2223.4172 (pause 0.15) 2223.5639 1831 PRV_int_01 2223.5639 voting but also just as a citizen in [terms-] 2225.8961 1832 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2225.8028 [As] a citizen, 2226.7258 1833 PRV_int_01 2226.7854 where you wanted to live- 2228.0113 1834 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2228.2101 I realized then that 2229.5828 1835 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2229.5828 (pause 4.15) 2233.7321 1836 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2233.7321 God was trying to tell us something. 2235.8952 1837 PRV_int_01 2236.2692 Hm. 2236.5348 1838 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2237.6797 And, uh, 2238.3708 1839 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2238.3708 (pause 1.47) 2239.8362 1840 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2239.8362 me, 2240.3383 1841 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2240.3383 (pause 0.31) 2240.6456 1842 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2240.6456 I got the message. 2241.9662 1843 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2241.9662 (pause 1.00) 2242.9697 1844 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2242.9697 I realized what the message was from dealing with 2245.6185 1845 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2245.6185 (pause 0.53) 2246.1439 1846 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2246.1439 all those people 2247.2231 1847 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2247.2231 (pause 0.46) 2247.6822 1848 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2247.6822 that I worked with 2248.8419 1849 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2248.8419 (pause 0.48) 2249.3247 1850 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2249.3247 day to day 2250.0395 1851 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2250.0395 (pause 0.25) 2250.2884 1852 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2250.2884 in that 2250.6860 1853 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2250.6860 (pause 0.16) 2250.8469 1854 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2250.8469 one little complex. 2252.4184 1855 PRV_int_01 2252.4137 Mm. 2252.6835 1856 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2252.7450 I got the message. 2253.9047 1857 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2253.9047 (pause 0.94) 2254.8467 1858 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2254.8467 And I know- I knew too also 2257.5096 1859 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2257.5096 (pause 0.33) 2257.8362 1860 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2257.8362 that 2258.2669 1861 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2258.2669 (pause 0.22) 2258.4894 1862 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2258.4894 Princeville could not be Princeville any place else 2261.8170 1863 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2261.8170 (pause 0.20) 2262.0206 1864 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2262.0206 but here. 2262.7542 1865 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2262.7542 (pause 1.47) 2264.2291 1866 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2264.2291 See you- they could tell us to move down the highway about eleven [miles,] 2267.9117 1867 PRV_int_01 2267.7365 [Mm-hm.] 2268.0916 1868 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2268.6670 eight miles or 2269.8788 1869 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2269.8788 (pause 0.34) 2270.2149 1870 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2270.2149 six miles or five miles, that wouldn't be Princeville. 2273.4241 1871 PRV_int_01 2273.6040 Mm. 2273.8075 1872 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2273.7365 This is Princeville. 2275.3297 1873 PRV_int_01 2275.4623 Mm. 2275.7747 1874 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2277.6870 And I knew that I would not vote for anything but to come back home because this was all I've known all of my life. 2284.2502 1875 PRV_int_01 2285.7271 Mm. 2285.9543 1876 PRV_int_01 2285.9543 (pause 1.65) 2287.6090 1877 PRV_int_01 2287.6090 Yeah. 2287.9735 1878 PRV_int_01 2287.9735 (pause 0.23) 2288.2007 1879 PRV_int_01 2288.2007 Ex- explain- tell me a little bit more about what you mean. Like, 2291.2443 1880 PRV_int_01 2291.2443 (pause 0.71) 2291.9543 1881 PRV_int_01 2291.9543 the significance of this piece of land 2294.3095 1882 PRV_int_01 2294.3095 (pause 0.35) 2294.6551 1883 PRV_int_01 2294.6551 here. 2294.9628 1884 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2296.6763 Uh, you know, 2297.6229 1885 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2297.6229 (pause 0.97) 2298.5886 1886 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2298.5886 you- you can't move history. 2300.2385 1887 PRV_int_01 2300.3616 Mm. 2300.6361 1888 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2303.5188 You can't move history. 2304.7637 1889 PRV_int_01 2304.8848 Mm-hm. 2305.2895 1890 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2305.2871 And I- I've known all of my life that 2307.3556 1891 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2308.3260 right across here, 2309.5425 1892 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2309.5425 (pause 3.48) 2313.0196 1893 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2313.0196 where the school is 2314.3213 1894 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2314.3213 (pause 0.47) 2314.7899 1895 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2314.7899 and on back, I can remember when there were cotton fields over there. 2318.2149 1896 PRV_int_01 2318.2433 Okay. 2318.6361 1897 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2318.9249 I can remember right down here at this corner, 2321.2017 1898 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2321.2017 (pause 0.41) 2321.6087 1899 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2321.6087 there used to be a lumber yard. 2323.3771 1900 PRV_int_01 2323.5853 Hm. 2323.8646 1901 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2324.3427 And this was Princeville. 2325.5544 1902 PRV_int_01 2325.7438 Mm-hm. 2326.2408 1903 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2328.3282 See you can't take me to a new landmark 2330.7734 1904 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2330.7734 (pause 0.23) 2331.0054 1905 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2331.0054 and I stand there and look around and say well, 2333.8549 1906 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2333.8549 (pause 0.69) 2334.5412 1907 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2334.5412 there used to be this here and there used to be that here, 2337.0906 1908 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2337.0906 (pause 0.28) 2337.3746 1909 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2337.3746 but you know because 2338.2834 1910 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2338.2834 (pause 0.92) 2339.2017 1911 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2339.2017 these things were never there. This is the original s- landmarking for these [things.] 2344.0656 1912 PRV_int_01 2343.8716 [Mm-hm.] 2344.3165 1913 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2344.5863 So we have to preserve them. 2346.1815 1914 PRV_int_01 2346.2762 Mm-hm. 2346.6785 1915 PRV_int_01 2346.6785 (pause 0.51) 2347.1877 1916 PRV_int_01 2347.1877 Mm-hm. 2347.5427 1917 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2347.6658 That school over there, that's where I went from one through fourth grade. 2351.2159 1918 PRV_int_01 2351.4431 Right. 2351.7413 1919 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2352.1957 And no one can take that building and carry it no place 2354.7640 1920 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2354.7640 (pause 0.69) 2355.4550 1921 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2355.4550 and change my memories. 2356.7804 1922 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2356.7804 (pause 0.64) 2357.4241 1923 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2357.4241 I can remember stopping in /RD-NAME-2/ store every morning before I got on the school [bus.] 2362.0798 1924 PRV_int_01 2361.9568 [Uh-huh.] 2362.4065 1925 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2362.4159 See those are things nobody can take away from you. 2364.8110 1926 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2364.8110 (pause 0.65) 2365.4575 1927 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2365.4575 They can't take you down the road and say we're gonna bring /RD-NAME-2/ store and place it right here. 2369.3673 1928 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2369.3673 (pause 2.60) 2371.9687 1929 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2371.9687 It- 2372.1700 1930 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2372.1700 (pause 0.15) 2372.3159 1931 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2372.3159 it will change 2373.2042 1932 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2373.2042 (pause 0.30) 2373.5071 1933 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2373.5071 the whole concept 2375.0029 1934 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2375.0029 (pause 0.62) 2375.6229 1935 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2375.6229 of the history. 2376.4702 1936 PRV_int_01 2376.7712 Yeah. 2377.0646 1937 PRV_int_01 2377.0646 (pause 1.52) 2378.5888 1938 PRV_int_01 2378.5888 Huh. 2378.8681 1939 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2379.7674 So this has to be Princeville. 2381.1023 1940 PRV_int_01 2381.3721 Mm-hm. 2381.7034 1941 PRV_int_01 2381.7034 (pause 0.74) 2382.4466 1942 PRV_int_01 2382.4466 Mm-hm. 2382.9104 1943 PRV_int_01 2382.9104 (pause 0.91) 2383.8220 1944 PRV_int_01 2383.8220 Wow. 2384.1912 1945 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2384.2622 The old people that I remember that used to live here, 2386.8703 1946 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2386.8703 (pause 0.93) 2387.8028 1947 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2387.8028 uh, in the little one room shacks, 2389.7415 1948 PRV_int_01 2391.3556 Okay. 2391.7958 1949 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2392.6479 the old people that I- I can remember getting on the cotton trucks and my grandmother 2397.1616 1950 PRV_int_01 2397.5213 Mm-hm. 2398.0684 1951 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2399.2253 uh, the places that 2400.4919 1952 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2400.4919 (pause 0.90) 2401.3960 1953 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2401.3960 my church today used to sat 2403.6822 1954 PRV_int_01 2404.2455 Okay. 2404.6668 1955 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2405.1685 before it was moved 2406.5602 1956 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2406.5602 (pause 0.40) 2406.9558 1957 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2406.9558 to where it's located now. 2408.4941 1958 PRV_int_01 2408.8160 Which- 2409.1616 1959 PRV_int_01 2409.1616 (pause 0.38) 2409.5450 1960 PRV_int_01 2409.5450 which church? 2410.1934 1961 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2410.3875 Macedonia [Baptist.] 2411.7223 1962 PRV_int_01 2411.5330 [Okay.] 2411.9423 1963 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2412.1247 Macedonia's the next oldest church in Princeville. 2414.5462 1964 PRV_int_01 2414.7450 Okay. 2415.1048 1965 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2415.2184 Mm-hm. 2415.6018 1966 PRV_int_01 2415.6349 And it was a bit- it was moved- 2417.0029 1967 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2417.1165 You know where it used to sat? 2418.1673 1968 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2418.1673 (pause 0.53) 2418.6954 1969 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2418.6954 Do you know where, uh, 2419.9167 1970 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2419.9167 (pause 0.51) 2420.4231 1971 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2420.4231 the- the, uh, 2421.6586 1972 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2421.6586 (pause 0.92) 2422.5816 1973 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2422.5816 I think it's the uh- it's uh- 2424.0963 1974 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2424.0963 (pause 1.52) 2425.6137 1975 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2425.6137 what is it? Uh, 2426.5699 1976 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2426.5699 (pause 1.45) 2428.0230 1977 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2428.0230 there's some kind of a shop right there at the stop light? 2430.6548 1978 PRV_int_01 2431.2445 Mm. Right [off of sixty four?] 2432.6361 1979 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2431.7084 [Uh, Lynch's-] Yeah, that- 2433.3935 1980 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2434.0183 right off sixty [four going back] out the bypass. 2436.5464 1981 PRV_int_01 2435.0123 [Okay.] 2435.4525 1982 PRV_int_01 2436.6244 Uh-huh. 2437.0599 1983 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2437.1404 You know, that, uh, dwelling in uh- what is it? 2439.8290 1984 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2439.8290 (pause 0.59) 2440.4207 1985 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2440.4207 /??/ Place right there on that corner? 2442.4182 1986 PRV_int_01 2443.4386 Think so, yeah. 2444.1381 1987 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2444.3758 There used to be a big old 2446.2408 1988 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2446.2408 (pause 0.24) 2446.4822 1989 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2446.4822 gin house thing, like a building there [that used] to have a occupy- 2449.7889 1990 PRV_int_01 2448.4919 [Mm-hm.] 2448.7996 1991 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2450.1013 a s- it used to 2450.9154 1992 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2450.9154 (pause 0.27) 2451.1852 1993 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2451.1852 well, house a store. 2452.6431 1994 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2452.6431 (pause 0.50) 2453.1401 1995 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2453.1401 Our church used to sit back down in that 2455.7321 1996 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2455.7321 (pause 0.55) 2456.2859 1997 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2456.2859 lower area behind there. 2458.0893 1998 PRV_int_01 2458.0940 Oh. 2458.3023 1999 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2458.2597 See what I'm saying about history? You can't- 2459.7460 2000 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2460.7664 and- and they moved our church. 2462.5935 2001 PRV_int_01 2462.7024 Okay. 2463.1474 2002 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2463.7769 They brought it out and, uh, they put it over here on this corner where it is today. 2468.2149 2003 PRV_int_01 2468.2622 Okay. 2468.7214 2004 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2468.9438 And then when the flood came in and got it, 2470.6905 2005 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2470.6905 (pause 0.33) 2471.0218 2006 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2471.0218 we still put it right back there. 2473.1214 2007 PRV_int_01 2473.1167 [Mm-hm.] 2473.6232 2008 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2473.2729 [See?] 2473.6279 2009 PRV_int_01 2474.0161 Yeah. 2474.3474 2010 PRV_int_01 2474.3474 (pause 2.19) 2476.5390 2011 PRV_int_01 2476.5390 Exactly. 2477.2537 2012 PRV_int_01 2477.2537 (pause 1.47) 2478.7211 2013 PRV_int_01 2478.7211 So they'll- so those 2480.3332 2014 PRV_int_01 2480.3332 (pause 1.51) 2481.8479 2015 PRV_int_01 2481.8479 landmarks- those- 2483.0171 2016 PRV_int_01 2483.0171 (pause 0.45) 2483.4667 2017 PRV_int_01 2483.4667 those physical locations for you, that's what 2486.2291 2018 PRV_int_01 2486.2291 (pause 0.74) 2486.9675 2019 PRV_int_01 2486.9675 Princeville is. 2487.8148 2020 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2487.7864 That's what Princeville is. 2488.9934 2021 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2489.3011 And I can remember the big church Saint Luke 2491.4007 2022 PRV_int_01 2491.5948 [Mm-hm.] 2492.0303 2023 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2491.8930 [Disciples,] 2492.5699 2024 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2493.0196 it used to sat 2494.0704 2025 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2494.0704 (pause 0.85) 2494.9177 2026 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2494.9177 right down here 2496.0300 2027 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2496.0300 (pause 0.25) 2496.2809 2028 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2496.2809 on uh, Mutual Boulevard, 2497.6895 2029 PRV_int_01 2497.8125 [Okay.] 2498.1249 2030 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2497.9924 [right] 2498.4231 2031 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2499.1852 off of the river. 2500.1650 2032 PRV_int_01 2500.6715 Really? 2500.9650 2033 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2501.2537 Really. And see these are things that I grew up 2503.8315 2034 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2503.8315 (pause 0.50) 2504.3285 2035 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2504.3285 knowing. 2504.8255 2036 PRV_int_01 2504.9628 Mm-hm. 2505.3462 2037 PRV_int_01 2505.3462 (pause 0.54) 2505.8905 2038 PRV_int_01 2505.8905 Mm-hm. 2506.2597 2039 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2507.3721 And hey, 2508.2856 2040 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2508.2856 (pause 0.54) 2508.8232 2041 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2508.8232 you can't take me too. 2510.1249 2042 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2510.1249 (pause 1.86) 2511.9804 2043 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2511.9804 I think it's a little place down here called S- uh, Shiloh Farm Road [and] 2515.9309 2044 PRV_int_01 2515.8267 [Hm.] 2516.0539 2045 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2516.3001 those places 2517.2846 2046 PRV_int_01 2517.5024 Mm-hm. 2517.7864 2047 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2517.8621 and it's gonna have the meaning 2519.6513 2048 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2519.6513 (pause 0.41) 2520.0584 2049 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2520.0584 to me 2520.6170 2050 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2520.6170 (pause 0.29) 2520.9037 2051 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2520.9037 that these landmarks have when you come up into Princeville 2523.8952 2052 PRV_int_01 2523.9094 Yeah. 2524.1792 2053 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2524.3355 and know what used to be here. 2525.6797 2054 PRV_int_01 2525.8596 Mm-hm. 2526.2268 2055 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2526.1768 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/, I can remember the little 2528.2101 2056 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2529.8290 long 2530.7615 2057 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2530.7615 (pause 0.46) 2531.2206 2058 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2531.2206 one room building he had for a store, 2533.5787 2059 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2533.5787 (pause 0.19) 2533.7653 2060 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2533.7653 Mr. /RD-NAME-3/, his father, 2535.4645 2061 PRV_int_01 2535.4882 Okay. 2535.9284 2062 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2535.9804 and I was a little kid and used to go in there and buy candy out of the jars [and] 2539.8125 2063 PRV_int_01 2539.6327 [Uh-huh.] 2540.2054 2064 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2540.3616 little things like that. See people can't 2541.9994 2065 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2541.9994 (pause 0.59) 2542.5911 2066 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2542.5911 tell me about that. 2543.5188 2067 PRV_int_01 2543.6371 Yeah. 2543.9448 2068 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2544.1200 Mm-hm. 2544.4276 2069 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2544.4276 (pause 0.44) 2544.8706 2070 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2544.8706 By taking me down the road further. 2546.5746 2071 PRV_int_01 2546.6314 Okay. 2547.1176 2072 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2547.3746 Mm-mm. 2547.7438 2073 PRV_int_01 2548.2692 Now you- 2548.8893 2074 PRV_int_01 2548.8893 (pause 0.20) 2549.0928 2075 PRV_int_01 2549.0928 you mentioned your grandmother, 2550.7684 2076 PRV_int_01 2550.7684 (pause 0.36) 2551.1262 2077 PRV_int_01 2551.1262 do you remember a lot about your grandparents? 2553.4550 2078 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2553.5686 Oh yes, my grandmother raised me. 2555.0029 2079 PRV_int_01 2555.2064 Okay. 2555.6939 2080 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2555.9780 Mm-hm. 2556.2572 2081 PRV_int_01 2556.2809 And 2556.6812 2082 PRV_int_01 2556.6812 (pause 0.56) 2557.2398 2083 PRV_int_01 2557.2398 um, what e- what did they do? What did, uh, 2559.9331 2084 PRV_int_01 2559.9331 (pause 0.77) 2560.6999 2085 PRV_int_01 2560.6999 /your/ grandparents [/do/?] 2561.5002 2086 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2561.3105 [Well] my grandmother 2562.5554 2087 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2563.4055 uh, she was just a common laborer out- she would do field work like, 2567.3295 2088 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2567.3295 (pause 0.22) 2567.5472 2089 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2567.5472 tobacco and cotton 2568.9578 2090 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2568.9578 (pause 0.77) 2569.7273 2091 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2569.7273 because my mother, 2570.8634 2092 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2570.8634 (pause 0.30) 2571.1663 2093 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2571.1663 uh, was a trained dietician 2573.1875 2094 PRV_int_01 2573.2017 Mm-hm. 2573.4857 2095 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2573.4620 at the hospital 2574.7353 2096 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2575.2019 and so my mother- my grandmother more or less babysat us. 2578.1272 2097 PRV_int_01 2578.1650 Okay. 2578.5816 2098 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2578.9082 And 2579.3531 2099 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2579.3531 (pause 0.89) 2580.2478 2100 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2580.2478 sometimes, 2581.0903 2101 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2581.0903 (pause 0.35) 2581.4433 2102 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2581.4433 uh, 2581.8693 2103 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2581.8693 (pause 0.26) 2582.1249 2104 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2582.1249 if my grandmother saw a need, 2583.4598 2105 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2583.4598 (pause 0.56) 2584.0183 2106 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2584.0183 she would take us out of school for a day or two and take us to the cotton fields with her. 2588.1107 2107 PRV_int_01 2588.1675 Mm. 2588.4279 2108 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2589.8810 And 2590.3118 2109 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2590.3118 (pause 1.16) 2591.4715 2110 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2591.4715 we knew all of her old friends and 2594.2149 2111 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2594.2149 (pause 1.16) 2595.3746 2112 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2595.3746 we watch- well they watch us grow up as a matter of fact. My sister 2598.9388 2113 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2598.9388 (pause 0.54) 2599.4765 2114 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2599.4765 and I'm- well my m- my sister, my brother, and I. 2602.2076 2115 PRV_int_01 2602.4301 Mm-hm. 2602.7757 2116 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2602.8798 Cause my youngest sister she came along 2605.0524 2117 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2605.0524 (pause 0.28) 2605.3297 2118 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2605.3297 later 2605.7841 2119 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2605.7841 (pause 0.58) 2606.3663 2120 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2606.3663 in the better years. [] 2608.1177 2121 PRV_int_01 2607.2562 [Mkay.] 2607.9615 2122 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2608.6289 But, um, 2609.3058 2123 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2609.3058 (pause 1.69) 2610.9984 2124 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2610.9984 I- 2611.4386 2125 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2611.4386 (pause 1.36) 2612.8018 2126 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2612.8018 everything that I- 2613.7398 2127 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2613.7398 (pause 0.11) 2613.8449 2128 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2613.8449 I really 2614.6147 2129 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2614.6147 (pause 1.02) 2615.6324 2130 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2615.6324 can recall or 2616.8442 2131 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2616.8442 (pause 1.10) 2617.9403 2132 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2617.9403 rules and things that I live by 2619.9994 2133 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2619.9994 (pause 0.32) 2620.3165 2134 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2620.3165 are things that my grandmothers, 2621.5614 2135 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2621.5614 (pause 0.23) 2621.7886 2136 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2621.7886 you know, taught me through the years. 2623.5143 2137 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2623.5143 (pause 0.47) 2623.9877 2138 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2623.9877 Now my mother was there, 2625.4787 2139 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2625.4787 (pause 0.19) 2625.6680 2140 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2625.6680 but she was that workaholic. 2627.1827 2141 PRV_int_01 2627.4667 Mm. 2627.8312 2142 PRV_int_01 2627.8312 (pause 0.97) 2628.8043 2143 PRV_int_01 2628.8043 What was your grandmother's name? 2629.9167 2144 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2630.1486 Her name was /RD-NAME-2/- 2631.2846 2145 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2631.2846 (pause 0.23) 2631.5166 2146 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2631.5166 /RD-NAME-2/. 2632.3023 2147 PRV_int_01 2632.3875 Okay. 2632.7851 2148 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2633.0265 [Mm-hm.] 2633.4762 2149 PRV_int_01 2633.0786 [And your mother's] name is? 2634.3188 2150 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2634.3803 My mother's name is /RD-NAME-4/. 2636.7356 2151 PRV_int_01 2636.7450 Okay. 2637.2231 2152 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2637.2231 Mm-hm. And my name is /RD-NAME-1/. 2638.9934 2153 PRV_int_01 2639.1496 Okay. 2639.7365 2154 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2639.7602 Mm-hm. 2640.1152 2155 PRV_int_01 2640.8564 Not /RD-NAME-3/? 2641.5853 2156 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2641.7415 No, not [/RD-NAME-3/.] 2642.7356 2157 PRV_int_01 2642.3143 [] 2642.7782 2158 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2643.0480 My name- I'll tell you who I'm named after. 2645.0360 2159 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2645.0360 (pause 0.32) 2645.3579 2160 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2645.3579 My name is /RD-NAME-8/ 2647.9309 2161 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2647.9309 (pause 0.33) 2648.2575 2162 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2648.2575 and I was named 2649.3036 2163 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2649.3036 (pause 0.24) 2649.5402 2164 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2649.5402 after- 2649.9757 2165 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2649.9757 (pause 0.19) 2650.1650 2166 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2650.1650 you can look this up- Senator /RD-NAME-4/'s daughter. 2653.4386 2167 PRV_int_01 2653.5001 Oh okay. 2654.1439 2168 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2654.5935 Her name was /RD-NAME-7/. 2656.5390 2169 PRV_int_01 2656.6573 Oh, okay. 2657.2679 2170 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2657.3531 Mm-hm. 2657.6655 2171 PRV_int_01 2658.2694 Wow. 2658.5676 2172 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2659.6043 Yes and as I- 2660.5841 2173 PRV_int_01 2660.9344 Well I just- I remember you saying that 2662.7899 2174 PRV_int_01 2662.7899 (pause 0.29) 2663.0786 2175 PRV_int_01 2663.0786 the- 2663.3746 2176 PRV_int_01 2663.3746 (pause 0.08) 2663.4594 2177 PRV_int_01 2663.4594 the trucks would come 2664.6705 2178 PRV_int_01 2664.6705 (pause 0.20) 2664.8740 2179 PRV_int_01 2664.8740 and pick up 2665.5001 2180 PRV_int_01 2665.5001 (pause 0.21) 2665.7131 2181 PRV_int_01 2665.7131 day laborers 2666.5225 2182 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2666.4989 Yes. 2667.0101 2183 PRV_int_01 2667.1521 to go out, 2668.0846 2184 PRV_int_01 2668.0846 (pause 0.18) 2668.2692 2185 PRV_int_01 2668.2692 how did that work? Your grandmother used to do that? 2670.3898 2186 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2670.3614 Yes, my grandmother used to do that. 2672.3947 2187 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2673.0196 But, uh, her- 2674.0041 2188 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2674.0041 (pause 0.33) 2674.3365 2189 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2674.3365 well basically her duty was to 2676.6075 2190 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2676.6075 (pause 0.29) 2676.8942 2191 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2676.8942 babysit us. 2677.9687 2192 PRV_int_01 2677.9924 Uh-huh. 2678.2953 2193 PRV_int_01 2678.2953 (pause 0.79) 2679.0811 2194 PRV_int_01 2679.0811 You can- Yeah. 2679.7343 2195 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2679.7722 Let me get this. This is probably my mother. (tape stops) I mean, he helped my grandmother and my mother raise me 2684.1628 2196 PRV_int_01 2684.1912 Uh-huh. 2684.5604 2197 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2684.9249 And my uncle, like I said, he had a 2686.5106 2198 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2686.5106 (pause 0.35) 2686.8609 2199 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2686.8609 short military career. 2688.1389 2200 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2688.1389 (pause 1.00) 2689.1404 2201 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2689.1404 And 2689.8078 2202 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2689.8078 (pause 0.23) 2690.0397 2203 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2690.0397 my- we- 2690.5415 2204 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2690.5415 (pause 0.86) 2691.4030 2205 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2691.4030 my mother was a single parent. 2693.0171 2206 PRV_int_01 2692.9508 Mm-hm. 2693.4336 2207 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2693.5141 But I'm proud to say she educated 2695.6469 2208 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2695.6469 (pause 0.70) 2696.3474 2209 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2696.3474 all four of her kids very well. 2698.0704 2210 PRV_int_01 2698.4396 Okay. 2698.8325 2211 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2698.9934 Uh, 2699.4715 2212 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2699.4715 (pause 0.38) 2699.8502 2213 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2699.8502 my brother's an attorney in Greenville, North [Carolina.] 2702.1628 2214 PRV_int_01 2702.0303 [Okay.] 2702.4847 2215 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2703.0574 And, uh, his wife is a dentist there. 2705.0786 2216 PRV_int_01 2705.3105 Okay. 2705.7413 2217 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2705.8644 And my sister up here, 2707.2500 2218 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2707.2500 (pause 0.47) 2707.7179 2219 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2707.7179 she's working on her, 2708.9438 2220 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2708.9438 (pause 1.15) 2710.0940 2221 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2710.0940 uh, 2710.5390 2222 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2710.5390 (pause 0.72) 2711.2632 2223 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2711.2632 degree now. [She doesn't] have but a few months. 2713.4575 2224 PRV_int_01 2712.0186 [Mm-hm.] 2712.4067 2225 PRV_int_01 2713.6185 [Okay.] 2713.9261 2226 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2713.7510 [My] youngest sister has a degree from school, business school. 2716.6005 2227 PRV_int_01 2716.6668 Okay. 2717.0691 2228 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2717.1875 And she is working on, uh, her degree 2719.6895 2229 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2719.6895 (pause 0.33) 2720.0161 2230 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2720.0161 in computers now 2721.1000 2231 PRV_int_01 2721.2184 Okay. 2721.6207 2232 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2721.6349 at the community college. 2722.9555 2233 PRV_int_01 2723.0455 Okay. 2723.5046 2234 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2723.8265 And I guess I'm 2724.8252 2235 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2724.8252 (pause 0.73) 2725.5522 2236 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2725.5522 b- 2725.6658 2237 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2725.6658 (pause 0.18) 2725.8409 2238 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2725.8409 brain dead so I'm not doing anything right now. 2728.4396 2239 PRV_int_01 2728.4633 [] 2729.2632 2240 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2729.0833 [But] um, 2729.6087 2241 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2729.9306 [nevertheless, I'm proud.] I have a son that has like, 2732.7829 2242 PRV_int_01 2729.9638 [/inaudible/] 2731.2500 2243 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2733.3935 uh, come September, eighteen years in the Air Force. 2736.5933 2244 PRV_int_01 2736.5696 Uh-huh. 2736.9341 2245 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2737.2919 I have a younger son that's, uh, pursuing 2739.9662 2246 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2739.9662 (pause 0.66) 2740.6242 2247 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2740.6242 a medical career, 2742.1058 2248 PRV_int_01 2742.1294 Wow. 2742.4418 2249 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2743.0788 and, uh, 2743.8362 2250 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2743.8362 (pause 0.62) 2744.4563 2251 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2744.4563 my oldest son was killed, uh, 2746.6242 2252 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2746.6242 (pause 0.67) 2747.2916 2253 PRV_se0_ag3_f_01 2747.2916 a few weeks after this- being discharged from the- 2749.9240