Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_int_01 0.3819 So yeah, I just, 1.6986 2 ROC_int_01 1.6986 (pause 0.13) 1.8245 3 ROC_int_01 1.8245 uh, tell people, 3.1202 4 ROC_int_01 3.1202 (pause 0.20) 3.3167 5 ROC_int_01 3.3167 um, 3.9181 6 ROC_int_01 3.9181 (pause 0.19) 4.1111 7 ROC_int_01 4.1111 pretty much that 5.0937 8 ROC_int_01 5.0937 (pause 0.41) 5.4998 9 ROC_int_01 5.4998 the questions are open ended. 7.3713 10 ROC_int_01 7.3713 (pause 0.19) 7.5660 11 ROC_int_01 7.5660 Feel free to respond, you know, how you would like and [um], 11.1737 12 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 10.9287 [Okay.] 11.3622 13 ROC_int_01 11.4978 tell stories or 12.7444 14 ROC_int_01 12.7444 (pause 0.21) 12.9539 15 ROC_int_01 12.9539 there's no right or [wrong answer, it's just- ] 15.6476 16 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 13.6763 [Well, you got the right one, I like to run my mouth. ] 16.6204 17 ROC_int_01 16.5225 [Yeah] it's just 17.5665 18 ROC_int_01 17.8881 [whatever your experiences] were, 19.9855 19 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 18.2817 [/Sorry my phone/.] 19.2055 20 ROC_int_01 20.1524 you know, 20.6243 21 ROC_int_01 20.6243 (pause 0.45) 21.0787 22 ROC_int_01 21.0787 uh, I'm interested in. 22.4537 23 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 22.8286 [Good /?/.] 23.6429 24 ROC_int_01 23.1774 [If you see] me look down, it's just to make sure that this is still recording. 27.1412 25 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 27.2864 Okay. 27.6882 26 ROC_int_01 27.7166 But you can still keep talking, like you don't have to 30.0092 27 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 30.1550 [Okay.] 30.4839 28 ROC_int_01 30.2222 [pause] or anything. 31.2140 29 ROC_int_01 31.7422 Um, 32.4179 30 ROC_int_01 32.4179 (pause 0.46) 32.8780 31 ROC_int_01 32.8780 let's see, 33.5641 32 ROC_int_01 33.5641 (pause 0.33) 33.8990 33 ROC_int_01 33.8990 and then the last thing I always ask at the beginning is, if you consent 37.9808 34 ROC_int_01 37.9808 (pause 0.14) 38.1226 35 ROC_int_01 38.1226 for, uh, doing this interview. 39.6221 36 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 39.7518 I do, [I do, yes.] 41.7258 37 ROC_int_01 40.6054 [Okay], 40.9904 38 ROC_int_01 40.9904 (pause 0.35) 41.3383 39 ROC_int_01 41.3383 [great.] 41.8310 40 ROC_int_01 42.1320 Gotta get that verbal 43.0669 41 ROC_int_01 43.0669 (pause 0.37) 43.4402 42 ROC_int_01 43.4402 consent, [that's essential.] 44.7939 43 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 43.9683 [] 44.9161 44 ROC_int_01 44.9216 45.4703 45 ROC_int_01 45.4703 (pause 0.48) 45.9533 46 ROC_int_01 45.9533 Okay, great, so, 47.4063 47 ROC_int_01 47.4063 (pause 0.26) 47.6631 48 ROC_int_01 47.6631 I usually like to start off the conversation with, um, 51.2793 49 ROC_int_01 51.2793 (pause 0.70) 51.9772 50 ROC_int_01 51.9772 52.0569 51 ROC_int_01 52.0569 (pause 0.26) 52.3155 52 ROC_int_01 52.3155 asking where you are from in the city of Rochester. Where did you grow up? 56.6160 53 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 56.8399 I actually grew up right down the street, um, born and raised. I grew up, um, in the eleventh ward on /RD-ADDRESS-3/ Street, 63.4301 54 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 63.4301 (pause 0.58) 64.0150 55 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 64.0150 um, off the /RD-NAME-2/ in- 65.6676 56 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 65.6676 (pause 0.28) 65.9512 57 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 65.9512 in what people would consider the hood. 67.9980 58 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 67.9980 (pause 0.10) 68.0935 59 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 68.0935 But my street is very family oriented, 70.8911 60 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 70.8911 (pause 0.17) 71.0564 61 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 71.0564 quiet street. 71.8569 62 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 71.8569 (pause 0.35) 72.2052 63 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 72.2052 There's a church on my street, so, you know, there's- 74.5981 64 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 74.5981 (pause 0.55) 75.1513 65 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 75.1513 S- everybody that has been on my street, has been there literally, since I've been there, with g- exception of maybe, two or three houses, 81.4964 66 ROC_int_01 81.5821 Mm-hm. 82.1353 67 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 82.1487 so, 82.6335 68 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 82.6335 (pause 0.14) 82.7775 69 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 82.7775 yeah. 83.2219 70 ROC_int_01 83.3023 So how long, um, have you lived over there, or do your parents still live there? 86.8008 71 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 85.2260 85.2794 72 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 85.2794 (pause 1.48) 86.7640 73 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 86.7640 All my life yes. Including me, I'm still there, I'm not going anywhere, 90.3437 74 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 90.5411 like I'm'a milk this one out, I'm the baby [] 94.3404 75 ROC_int_01 93.8960 [Yup], 94.1300 76 ROC_int_01 94.4799 me too. 94.8593 77 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 94.8687 Right, right, I'm like, mm, /?/ where I'm going, y'all need me here, so. 97.9368 78 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 97.9368 (pause 0.26) 98.1952 79 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 98.1952 No yup, um, 99.1523 80 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 99.1523 (pause 0.14) 99.2972 81 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 99.2972 twenty-six years I've been there, and 101.3340 82 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 101.3340 (pause 0.47) 101.8038 83 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 101.8038 my dad has been there since eighty something, eighty-seven, something like that. So he's been there 108.3235 84 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 108.3235 (pause 0.65) 108.9776 85 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 108.9776 almost thirty years, if not more 111.1048 86 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 111.1048 (pause 0.14) 111.2409 87 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 111.2409 at this point, yeah. 112.2814 88 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 112.2814 (pause 0.14) 112.4262 89 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 112.4262 Wow, 112.8433 90 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 112.8433 (pause 0.11) 112.9531 91 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 112.9531 that's crazy 113.6423 92 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 113.6423 (pause 0.42) 114.0594 93 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 114.0594 to think about that. 115.6182 94 ROC_int_01 115.6264 Yeah, so you described the neighborhood a little bit, uh, but can you elaborate maybe say, 120.7790 95 ROC_int_01 120.7790 (pause 0.41) 121.1917 96 ROC_int_01 121.1917 uh, the demographics and, 123.2112 97 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 123.2302 123.3547 98 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 123.3547 (pause 0.43) 123.7798 99 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 123.7798 Um, definitely African American primarily, 127.0819 100 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 127.0819 (pause 0.35) 127.4359 101 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 127.4359 um, 127.9012 102 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 127.9012 (pause 0.12) 128.0247 103 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 128.0247 there is a more- 129.4998 104 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 129.4998 (pause 0.47) 129.9683 105 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 129.9683 I'm not sure, but over the years, I've kind of 132.6902 106 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 132.6902 (pause 0.35) 133.0358 107 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 133.0358 subconsciously labeled them as Mormon. I don't know if they're Mormon, but they kind of behave like Mormons. At the end of my street there's a family, 141.0780 108 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 141.0780 (pause 0.44) 141.5215 109 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 141.5215 um, 142.1668 110 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 142.1668 (pause 0.33) 142.4961 111 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 142.4961 of 142.9351 112 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 142.9351 (pause 0.49) 143.4224 113 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 143.4224 white people, 144.1863 114 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 144.1863 (pause 0.61) 144.7985 115 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 144.7985 and you kind of have seen the 147.1703 116 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 147.1703 (pause 0.28) 147.4477 117 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 147.4477 family evolve over the years, but they're very 150.4932 118 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 150.4932 (pause 0.46) 150.9498 119 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 150.9498 secluded, keep to themselves. They look like they 153.4688 120 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 153.4688 (pause 0.16) 153.6258 121 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 153.6258 make their own clothes, and 155.0712 122 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 155.0712 (pause 0.38) 155.4499 123 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 155.4499 I've never- I've only seen them drive a few times, but 158.3024 124 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 158.3024 (pause 0.12) 158.4219 125 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 158.4219 usually they walk everywhere. 160.0401 126 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 160.0401 (pause 0.57) 160.6109 127 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 160.6109 So /um/, (whispered) 161.3848 128 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 161.3848 (pause 0.29) 161.6733 129 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 161.6733 other than that, it's mostly, um, African Americans. 164.3949 130 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 164.3949 (pause 0.53) 164.9254 131 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 164.9254 There's a few houses that are rented, so 167.6178 132 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 167.6178 (pause 0.14) 167.7583 133 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 167.7583 I've seen a few Asian people move in and out. 170.3353 134 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 170.3353 (pause 0.38) 170.7172 135 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 170.7172 Um, 171.2572 136 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 171.2572 (pause 0.90) 172.1555 137 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 172.1555 172.2356 138 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 172.2356 (pause 0.29) 172.5244 139 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 172.5244 and 173.2619 140 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 173.2619 (pause 0.32) 173.5824 141 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 173.5824 one- 174.0521 142 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 174.0521 (pause 0.13) 174.1839 143 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 174.1839 Um, actually I take that back. Two of my neighbors 176.6599 144 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 176.6599 (pause 0.12) 176.7808 145 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 176.7808 and one of my best friends and my first best friends 179.0988 146 ROC_int_01 179.0988 Mm-hm. 179.5003 147 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 179.4956 that lived next door to me, she was white too. 181.5106 148 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 181.6387 So my first best friend was actually a white girl. [] 184.2995 149 ROC_int_01 183.8457 [Mm-hm.] 184.3156 150 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 184.8063 Um, and then my neighbor on my other side, she's white also. So, 188.2564 151 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 188.2564 (pause 0.17) 188.4313 152 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 188.4313 there's a mix but mostly African American, 191.1268 153 ROC_int_01 191.1906 [Okay] cool. 192.1669 154 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 191.3443 [yeah.] 191.6384 155 ROC_int_01 192.4918 And so, um, you said it was family oriented, so you played outside a lot with the kids on the street and- 198.1905 156 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 196.7619 196.8261 157 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 198.2945 Funny thing is, my mom did not- 200.7790 158 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 200.7790 (pause 0.42) 201.1972 159 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 201.1972 um, 201.8693 160 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 201.8693 (pause 0.58) 202.4482 161 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 202.4482 she didn't play that. [] 203.8879 162 ROC_int_01 203.6246 [Mm-hm.] 204.1586 163 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 204.2144 So she w- she would let me go out there with, um, 207.3323 164 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 207.3323 (pause 0.21) 207.5451 165 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 207.5451 kids across the street. 208.4541 166 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 208.4541 (pause 0.31) 208.7615 167 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 208.7615 My best friend next door, she'd let me go next door. 211.4508 168 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 211.4508 (pause 0.19) 211.6446 169 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 211.6446 Her name was /RD-NAME-4/. 212.9825 170 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 212.9825 (pause 0.35) 213.3371 171 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 213.3371 And when /RD-NAME-4/ moved, I was about six or seven. My mom kind of 217.4951 172 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 217.4951 (pause 0.46) 217.9519 173 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 217.9519 said, okay I don't know if I really like the other neighbors, so, 221.3470 174 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 221.3470 (pause 0.61) 221.9551 175 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 221.9551 you know, we gonna keep you in front of our house in the backyard where I can see you. 225.9400 176 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 225.9400 (pause 0.40) 226.3395 177 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 226.3395 Um, 226.7961 178 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 226.7961 (pause 0.21) 227.0025 179 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 227.0025 I did play across the street with the kids. There weren't a ton of kids my age. Actually do you- you remember /RD-NAME-4/, 233.7717 180 ROC_int_01 233.8001 [Yeah.] 234.2273 181 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 233.9406 [yeah.] 234.2190 182 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 234.4731 He lives on my street too, so, um, I grew up playing with him too. 238.3251 183 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 238.3251 (pause 0.23) 238.5555 184 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 238.5555 But he's a boy, so of course, you know, mom's like, okay as far as I can see you with that one. 242.8899 185 ROC_int_01 242.8663 Yeah. 243.4288 186 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 243.4773 Um, 244.0721 187 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 244.0721 (pause 0.18) 244.2506 188 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 244.2506 so I played with him, and then there were another set of kids across the street. 247.9586 189 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 247.9586 (pause 0.27) 248.2325 190 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 248.2325 But they got a dog, um, 249.8852 191 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 249.8852 (pause 0.25) 250.1331 192 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 250.1331 when I was about eight, 251.5938 193 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 251.5938 (pause 0.17) 251.7688 194 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 251.7688 maybe. My mom didn't- like, it was a pitbull so my mom was like, 254.8153 195 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 254.8153 (pause 0.21) 255.0216 196 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 255.0216 no you can't go over there anymore, so. 256.8006 197 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 256.8006 (pause 0.26) 257.0559 198 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 257.0559 I spent a lot of time, um, actually 259.2453 199 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 259.2453 (pause 0.73) 259.9785 200 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 259.9785 with my aunt, um, who lived on /RD-ADDRESS-2/, cause my mom worked evenings and my dad worked a trick shift, so he was working days and nights. 267.0412 201 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 267.0412 (pause 0.34) 267.3804 202 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 267.3804 So I spent a lot of time over there, 269.1242 203 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 269.1242 (pause 0.28) 269.4086 204 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 269.4086 ton of kids over there though, 270.7153 205 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 270.7153 (pause 0.31) 271.0225 206 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 271.0225 /that I/ 271.3733 207 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 271.3733 (pause 0.16) 271.5369 208 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 271.5369 used to play with, so 272.7919 209 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 272.7919 (pause 0.19) 272.9830 210 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 272.9830 yeah. 273.2628 211 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 273.2628 (pause 0.13) 273.3934 212 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 273.3934 273.6405 213 ROC_int_01 273.7104 Okay, cool, and, um, did you play at any, I guess rec centers, [maybe], occasionally, [or?] 279.7483 214 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 278.2139 [] 278.3037 215 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 278.3037 (pause 1.14) 279.4434 216 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 279.4434 [No, I was] really family oriented. My mom, um, 283.5912 217 ROC_int_01 280.1029 [No, okay.] 280.7427 218 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 284.5230 didn't, like 286.0202 219 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 286.0202 (pause 0.20) 286.2249 220 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 286.2249 me being outside of 287.6535 221 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 287.6535 (pause 0.13) 287.7859 222 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 287.7859 the family so if anybody watched me, it was family. 290.9825 223 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 290.9825 (pause 0.33) 291.3107 224 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 291.3107 So I was always at my uncle's house or my aunt's house or my grandmother for a very long time took care of me. 296.8218 225 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 296.8218 (pause 0.47) 297.2883 226 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 297.2883 Um, 297.7909 227 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 297.7909 (pause 0.20) 297.9928 228 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 297.9928 my other- both- I know both of my maternal- or my maternal and my paternal grandmothers took care of me, 303.9594 229 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 303.9594 (pause 0.40) 304.3633 230 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 304.3633 until my mother's mom moved 306.4316 231 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 306.4316 (pause 0.24) 306.6725 232 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 306.6725 to Alabama, and then my father's mom watched me. 309.2634 233 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 309.2634 (pause 0.46) 309.7265 234 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 309.7265 And as I got older, you know, I got bored at my grandma's house, so I started going to my aunt's house, so 314.3109 235 ROC_int_01 314.6886 Yeah. 314.9844 236 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 315.0175 yeah. 315.4619 237 ROC_int_01 315.5325 Okay, 316.1090 238 ROC_int_01 316.1090 (pause 0.21) 316.3184 239 ROC_int_01 316.3184 so would you say that, um, you grew up then as a westsider? 320.9405 240 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 321.0244 321.0744 241 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 321.0744 (pause 0.13) 321.2079 242 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 321.2079 Definitely [yeah I had a no business] on the east side. I didn't even know 324.6501 243 ROC_int_01 321.9686 [Yeah. ] 322.9897 244 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 325.2162 the east side existed. Um, my mom was good about taking me to- she always took me out, you know, whether it was like a weekend at Corning Museum or, you know, doing different things, she took me out, but 336.0277 245 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 336.0277 (pause 0.67) 336.6968 246 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 336.6968 I didn't have no business on the east side. I didn't know what it was until I got older, so 340.4764 247 ROC_int_01 340.5405 Yeah, [well, for someone who's] not from here, how would you characterize west side from east side? 346.1355 248 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 340.9633 [definitely a west sider.] 342.2236 249 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 346.7922 Um, 347.7667 250 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 347.7667 (pause 0.30) 348.0629 251 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 348.0629 so, the- the west side, 349.8276 252 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 349.8276 (pause 0.29) 350.1214 253 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 350.1214 I'd say- 350.8982 254 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 350.8982 (pause 0.75) 351.6442 255 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 351.6442 not even- I don't know, I feel like, um, there's m- 355.1259 256 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 355.1259 (pause 0.14) 355.2652 257 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 355.2652 more family oriented, people- working class people, 358.7324 258 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 358.7324 (pause 0.34) 359.0688 259 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 359.0688 um, 359.6516 260 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 359.6516 (pause 0.17) 359.8194 261 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 359.8194 families, working class people. 361.5309 262 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 361.5309 (pause 0.38) 361.9086 263 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 361.9086 Whereas the east side is kind of- 363.4986 264 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 363.4986 (pause 0.38) 363.8807 265 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 363.8807 it's bigger, so you have more opportunity for subsidized housing and people that get, um, 369.4510 266 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 369.4510 (pause 0.30) 369.7483 267 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 369.7483 369.9019 268 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 369.9019 (pause 1.17) 371.0670 269 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 371.0670 you know, government assistance. Not saying that that doesn't exist on this side, but I just find that there's a higher percentage of homeowners per se 378.4152 270 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 378.4152 (pause 0.48) 378.8919 271 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 378.8919 on the west side, but it's smaller, so 380.9325 272 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 380.9325 (pause 0.17) 381.1054 273 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 381.1054 I don't know percentage-wise if you could actually- 383.7171 274 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 383.7171 (pause 0.16) 383.8812 275 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 383.8812 how it would stack up, but. 385.1984 276 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 385.1984 (pause 0.56) 385.7603 277 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 385.7603 The east side is kind of like the wild wild west. [] 389.2643 278 ROC_int_01 388.3330 [Yeah. ] 389.7137 279 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 389.5454 [Yeah], yeah on the west side, you know, 391.0707 280 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 391.7249 with the exception of maybe like Jefferson, you know, there's a few areas that are kind of like, woo I wouldn't go over there, but 397.5533 281 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 397.5533 (pause 0.48) 398.0307 282 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 398.0307 it's more of a 398.8805 283 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 398.8805 (pause 0.47) 399.3544 284 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 399.3544 friendly neighborhood I'd say. 401.2030 285 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 401.2030 (pause 0.36) 401.5630 286 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 401.5630 My opinion. [] 403.6330 287 ROC_int_01 403.0049 [Cool, cool], no, [yeah.] 404.5933 288 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 404.2198 [] 404.6515 289 ROC_int_01 404.9002 That's good, I want your opinion, [so.] 406.5978 290 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 406.2107 [] 406.9987 291 ROC_int_01 407.1101 That's good, okay, what schools did you go to? 409.8625 292 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 409.9679 410.0526 293 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 410.0526 (pause 0.49) 410.5463 294 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 410.5463 Oh gosh, I cannot 412.0721 295 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 412.0721 (pause 0.12) 412.1908 296 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 412.1908 think of the- 413.3147 297 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 413.3147 (pause 0.11) 413.4266 298 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 413.4266 I went to kindergarten at 414.9943 299 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 414.9943 (pause 0.73) 415.7241 300 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 415.7241 either- I think it was /RD-SCHOOL-4/, I can't remember. 418.8536 301 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 418.8536 (pause 0.43) 419.2816 302 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 419.2816 But from /RD-SCHOOL-4/ I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, school number /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 423.2288 303 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 423.2288 (pause 0.41) 423.6361 304 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 423.6361 And from there, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, and that's where I graduated from. So I didn't do too much jumping around. [I was- pretty much] in the same place, stability. 433.3893 305 ROC_int_01 429.8903 [Ah, okay.] 430.9286 306 ROC_int_01 433.5124 That's good, [did you start] /RD-SCHOOL-2/ in high school or middle school? 436.4458 307 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 434.2165 [Mm-hm.] 434.6829 308 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 434.6829 (pause 1.23) 435.9119 309 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 435.9119 435.9787 310 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 435.9787 (pause 0.42) 436.3957 311 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 436.3957 Middle school, I started in middle school, so. 438.7884 312 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 438.9465 I started and never left. I fell in love. 441.3859 313 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 441.3859 (pause 0.09) 441.4763 314 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 441.4763 My, um- 442.3159 315 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 442.3159 (pause 0.46) 442.7755 316 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 442.7755 actually, for high school, my options were either go to Nazareth 446.0274 317 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 446.0274 (pause 0.49) 446.5217 318 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 446.5217 or, 447.0533 319 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 447.0533 (pause 0.43) 447.4804 320 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 447.4804 Wilson, 448.2257 321 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 448.2257 (pause 0.18) 448.4055 322 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 448.4055 and my mom was like you're not going to Wilson. 451.0429 323 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 451.0429 (pause 0.14) 451.1875 324 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 451.1875 I didn't really want to go to Wilson [because] 453.1091 325 ROC_int_01 452.7760 [Mm.] 453.0878 326 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 453.4894 a lot of the kids I went to elementary from- 455.6655 327 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 455.6655 (pause 0.41) 456.0761 328 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 456.0761 I was overweight growing up, 457.2482 329 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 457.2482 (pause 0.36) 457.6131 330 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 457.6131 so a lot of the kids were going to Wilson, and I didn't want to go because they used to tease me all the time, so I didn't want to go to Wilson. 463.9007 331 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 463.9007 (pause 0.65) 464.5465 332 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 464.5465 And I didn't want to go to a all girls school, cause I was like, great I'm never gonna have a boyfriend. 469.5772 333 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 469.5772 (pause 0.005) 469.5819 334 ROC_int_01 469.6434 [] 470.2470 335 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 469.8277 [So I] didn't want to go to Nazareth. 471.4145 336 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 471.8595 Um, s- in /RD-SCHOOL-4/ c- I've always been a active kid, dancing, um, cheerleading. I was always in something, so /RD-SCHOOL-4/ made the most sense honestly, so. 480.5266 337 ROC_int_01 480.8579 Yeah, 481.3706 338 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 481.4970 [Yeah.] 481.8766 339 ROC_int_01 481.5394 [okay.] 482.1288 340 ROC_int_01 482.4296 And, um, 483.4648 341 ROC_int_01 483.4648 (pause 0.41) 483.8728 342 ROC_int_01 483.8728 did you start off in dance in middle school too, [or?] 486.6459 343 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 486.3866 [Mm-hm.] 487.1926 344 ROC_int_01 487.0858 [Okay.] 487.4200 345 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 487.4617 Um, I always dabbled in everything though. 489.4530 346 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 489.4530 (pause 0.45) 489.8984 347 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 489.8984 Cause sixth grade when we started, they had like an explore arts program, so you kind of did everything. 495.7950 348 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 495.7950 (pause 0.22) 496.0124 349 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 496.0124 You went through vocal, drama, music, creative writing. 499.3143 350 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 499.3143 (pause 0.40) 499.7106 351 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 499.7106 Um, but dance was just my 501.1077 352 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 501.1077 (pause 0.11) 501.2196 353 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 501.2196 thing, it was my go-to, so, 503.3981 354 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 503.3981 (pause 0.98) 504.3764 355 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 504.3764 that's what I stuck with. 505.5463 356 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 505.5463 (pause 0.15) 505.6998 357 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 505.6998 Although I (breathy) probably should have switched or tried double major with drama, probably would have 510.0196 358 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 510.0196 (pause 0.49) 510.5060 359 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 510.5060 done well with that. [] 512.2467 360 ROC_int_01 511.5469 [Yeah] 512.2844 361 ROC_int_01 512.3495 Okay, [we- we] got to [/inaudible/.] 514.5953 362 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 512.6484 [Yeah] 513.1356 363 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 513.1356 (pause 0.18) 513.3156 364 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 513.3156 [Right, /unintelligible/] 515.2025 365 ROC_int_01 515.2485 Yeah, 515.6894 366 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 515.6872 [] 516.1460 367 ROC_int_01 515.9009 [actually] it's so funny cause my niece is going to her, uh, 519.3695 368 ROC_int_01 520.1027 uh, orientation for [the middle school program today, so.] 523.5185 369 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 521.6072 [Really], 522.7290 370 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 522.7290 (pause 0.22) 522.9484 371 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 522.9484 [aw.] 524.2495 372 ROC_int_01 523.8967 [Yeah] I think they have like the same kind of structure [where like you-] 527.3146 373 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 526.5073 [Oh okay they do] explore arts though, okay [so it's] not just like you got to go pick what you want, [/?/] 532.0420 374 ROC_int_01 528.8586 [Mm-hm.] 529.1939 375 ROC_int_01 529.1939 (pause 2.52) 531.7141 376 ROC_int_01 531.7141 [Right] exactly, [so-] 533.4904 377 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 533.1831 [Cause we] were the last 534.4932 378 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 534.6639 sixth grade class, 535.8893 379 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 535.8893 (pause 0.13) 536.0166 380 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 536.0166 so, 536.6730 381 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 536.6730 (pause 0.29) 536.9631 382 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 536.9631 the class of O eight, anybody that was there from middle school, was the last sixth grade class at 542.0758 383 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 542.0758 (pause 0.23) 542.3099 384 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 542.3099 /RD-SCHOOL-4/, so. 543.1379 385 ROC_int_01 543.1144 Yeah, [cause] they switch around so much, [seven through twelve], six to [twelfth, yup.] 547.4001 386 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 543.5776 [Mm.] 543.7478 387 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 543.7478 (pause 1.30) 545.0512 388 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 545.0512 [Yeah], 545.8231 389 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 545.8231 (pause 1.23) 547.0520 390 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 547.0520 [yeah] 547.9533 391 ROC_int_01 548.2130 [yeah.] 548.6067 392 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 548.2464 [mm.] 548.5111 393 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 548.8442 548.9009 394 ROC_int_01 549.5067 Okay, and how would you characterize your time at /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 552.9857 395 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 553.7316 Um, it was honestly the best- 555.9208 396 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 555.9208 (pause 0.10) 556.0211 397 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 556.0211 one of the best times of my life. 558.1930 398 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 558.1930 (pause 0.40) 558.5958 399 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 558.5958 Um, I really- 559.9400 400 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 559.9400 (pause 0.63) 560.5716 401 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 560.5716 I'm really thankful that I went to that school for so many different reasons. Um, it- 565.1926 402 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 565.1926 (pause 0.33) 565.5241 403 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 565.5241 you know, I was always open minded anyway as an individual, but 568.6919 404 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 568.6919 (pause 0.41) 569.0981 405 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 569.0981 going there, it allowed me to explore and 571.7219 406 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 571.7219 (pause 0.34) 572.0611 407 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 572.0611 kind of figure out who I was at a young age. 574.1894 408 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 574.1894 (pause 0.41) 574.5951 409 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 574.5951 Um, it was a outlet, and I got to experience so many things that 578.6966 410 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 578.6966 (pause 0.14) 578.8412 411 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 578.8412 I would have never, in- even in my adulthood, I would have never- you know, I would have never got to dance with /RD-NAME-3/ 584.3398 412 ROC_int_01 584.6522 [Hm.] 584.8394 413 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 584.6739 [if I] didn't go to /RD-SCHOOL-4/, you know, so. 586.4714 414 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 586.9540 So many cool experiences, so many different people from different walks of life and, 592.0533 415 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 592.0533 (pause 0.39) 592.4403 416 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 592.4403 um, 592.9492 417 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 592.9492 (pause 0.15) 593.0984 418 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 593.0984 just kind of 594.0356 419 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 594.0356 (pause 0.44) 594.4762 420 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 594.4762 the foundation of you never know what you're gonna get from somebody, so before you kind of judge you should 599.4503 421 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 599.4503 (pause 0.50) 599.9467 422 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 599.9467 give somebody a chance to open up and see what they can offer. 602.8408 423 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 602.8408 (pause 0.39) 603.2284 424 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 603.2284 I love that school. 604.0510 425 ROC_int_01 604.4718 Yeah. 604.8783 426 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 604.9823 [] 606.0460 427 ROC_int_01 605.8333 [Me] too. I th- I think that it's, um, 608.4267 428 ROC_int_01 608.7151 of the city [schools, you know, one of the best.] 611.3877 429 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 609.7957 [Yeah], 610.7459 430 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 610.7459 (pause 0.61) 611.3511 431 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 611.3511 [yeah.] 611.7529 432 ROC_int_01 611.8550 [Yeah.] 612.1717 433 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 611.8947 [I mean], that's as far as the arts goes. As far as the education portion, 616.3035 434 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 616.7724 I'm a bit disappointed because, um, I'm a first generation 620.8664 435 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 620.8664 (pause 0.33) 621.1926 436 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 621.1926 college student, [so], 622.5974 437 ROC_int_01 622.1483 [Mm.] 622.4934 438 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 623.3917 um, you know, my parents' 624.9328 439 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 624.9328 (pause 0.53) 625.4623 440 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 625.4623 goal back then was 627.0649 441 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 627.0649 (pause 0.11) 627.1764 442 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 627.1764 work, get out. You know, companies were around so my dad 630.1973 443 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 630.1973 (pause 0.35) 630.5424 444 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 630.5424 got out of school and worked at Kodak, and he retired from there, so he was there for thirty-five plus years. 635.1336 445 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 635.1336 (pause 0.39) 635.5212 446 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 635.5212 My mom's been with the state for 637.3744 447 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 637.3744 (pause 0.49) 637.8669 448 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 637.8669 twenty-six years almost. 639.6775 449 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 639.6775 (pause 0.25) 639.9234 450 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 639.9234 So, you know, 640.6029 451 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 640.6029 (pause 0.13) 640.7329 452 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 640.7329 they got jobs and worked. 642.0040 453 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 642.0040 (pause 0.08) 642.0807 454 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 642.0807 Um, 642.5566 455 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 642.5566 (pause 0.61) 643.1645 456 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 643.1645 in school, n- 644.3700 457 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 644.3700 (pause 0.26) 644.6292 458 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 644.6292 all I knew was 645.4666 459 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 645.4666 (pause 0.08) 645.5469 460 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 645.5469 I'm going to college. I didn't know how I got there, 648.3974 461 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 648.3974 (pause 0.14) 648.5369 462 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 648.5369 how you pay for it, what to do. 650.3026 463 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 650.3026 (pause 0.51) 650.8144 464 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 650.8144 So when I kind of got there, 652.4832 465 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 652.4832 (pause 0.75) 653.2357 466 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 653.2357 I was stuck because my parents didn't really know 656.1620 467 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 656.1620 (pause 0.16) 656.3227 468 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 656.3227 what to do, other than tell me, you're going to college. 659.1127 469 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 659.1127 (pause 0.80) 659.9117 470 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 659.9117 So, 660.3182 471 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 660.3182 (pause 0.44) 660.7579 472 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 660.7579 I don't think /RD-SCHOOL-4/ really prepared me 663.6417 473 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 663.6417 (pause 0.19) 663.8355 474 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 663.8355 for 664.4075 475 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 664.4075 (pause 0.16) 664.5691 476 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 664.5691 school. 665.0944 477 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 665.0944 (pause 0.24) 665.3300 478 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 665.3300 They just wanted me to graduate. 666.7768 479 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 666.7768 (pause 1.26) 668.0390 480 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 668.0390 [And they pushed] me along and I feel like, um- 670.7649 481 ROC_int_01 668.2140 [Mm.] 668.6107 482 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 671.1241 I was just have- actually I was just having this conversation with /RD-NAME-2/ 674.0276 483 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 674.0276 (pause 0.40) 674.4295 484 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 674.4295 about how, you know, 675.6775 485 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 675.6775 (pause 0.68) 676.3536 486 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 676.3536 they didn't prepare me. They- I don't feel like they 678.8714 487 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 678.8714 (pause 0.09) 678.9565 488 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 678.9565 prepared me for college. They just said, okay, get good grades, apply to school you want, 683.5335 489 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 683.5335 (pause 0.17) 683.7037 490 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 683.7037 go there, 684.4553 491 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 684.4553 (pause 0.29) 684.7484 492 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 684.7484 you'll be fine. That's not- 685.8074 493 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 685.8074 (pause 0.26) 686.0674 494 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 686.0674 that is not nearly- 687.2540 495 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 687.2540 (pause 0.37) 687.6275 496 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 687.6275 Nobody told me, don't apply to a nursing program right out of high [school.] 691.6845 497 ROC_int_01 691.5251 [Mm.] 692.0026 498 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 692.0816 And the first person that did was a black man, 694.3711 499 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 694.3711 (pause 0.44) 694.8107 500 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 694.8107 and I took so much offense to it because I thought he was insulting my intelligence, 699.2649 501 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 699.2649 (pause 0.37) 699.6336 502 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 699.6336 not realizing, you know, 700.9526 503 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 700.9526 (pause 0.45) 701.3978 504 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 701.3978 you've never taken A and P, how are you gonna get into a nursing program, you know. 705.4256 505 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 705.4256 (pause 0.12) 705.5450 506 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 705.5450 I didn't know that so, 706.6736 507 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 706.6736 (pause 0.48) 707.1525 508 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 707.1525 looking back, 708.0885 509 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 708.0885 (pause 0.38) 708.4715 510 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 708.4715 I wish I woulda listened to that man. 710.5997 511 ROC_int_01 710.7084 [Mm-hm.] 711.1622 512 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 710.9276 [/Cause it/] broke my heart when I applied and didn't get in. 713.2896 513 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 713.7576 But, um, 714.3580 514 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 714.3580 (pause 0.34) 714.6945 515 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 714.6945 yeah, no. 715.5029 516 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 715.5029 (pause 0.29) 715.7960 517 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 715.7960 Miss- 716.1553 518 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 716.1553 (pause 0.13) 716.2829 519 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 716.2829 what was her name, um, the counselor. 718.6693 520 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 718.6693 (pause 0.71) 719.3747 521 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 719.3747 [I can't-] 719.9751 522 ROC_int_01 719.4125 [Uh], /RD-NAME-2/? 720.6322 523 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 720.9829 Miss /RD-NAME-1/, tha- I feel like, was that- 722.9779 524 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 722.9779 (pause 0.62) 723.5972 525 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 723.5972 Yeah, she was retiring? She was getting ready to [retire?] 726.5420 526 ROC_int_01 725.9704 [Oh], maybe not. 727.2968 527 ROC_int_01 727.5048 [Maybe not cause I think] she's 729.2446 528 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 727.6278 [No.] 728.3842 529 ROC_int_01 729.3722 [still there, yeah.] 730.7790 530 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 729.5140 [still there. No, it's-] it was- 731.3936 531 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 731.7009 my counselor was getting ready- she was supposed to retire the year that we graduated, but she stayed. 736.3867 532 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 736.3867 (pause 0.27) 736.6561 533 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 736.6561 Or either the year before, and then she stayed for our year. 739.3366 534 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 739.3366 (pause 0.77) 740.1033 535 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 740.1033 She didn't really check in with me. It was just kind of like the beginning of the year, you know, you met with her, 744.2446 536 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 744.2446 (pause 0.46) 744.7031 537 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 744.7031 and then I didn't really see her again until the end when it was already, you know, 748.2413 538 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 748.2413 (pause 0.11) 748.3500 539 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 748.3500 too late. 748.9634 540 ROC_int_01 749.1525 Mm-hm. 749.8616 541 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 749.8805 Um, 750.3769 542 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 750.3769 (pause 0.28) 750.6520 543 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 750.6520 but, you know, I wasn't a horrible student or anything, but I just- 753.4884 544 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 753.4884 (pause 0.90) 754.3867 545 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 754.3867 I just was very disappointed in retrospect, looking back. 757.5913 546 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 757.5913 (pause 0.11) 757.7015 547 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 757.7015 Then I had no idea. 759.0393 548 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 759.0393 (pause 0.12) 759.1581 549 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 759.1581 I wish 759.7047 550 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 759.7047 (pause 0.07) 759.7780 551 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 759.7780 they would've 760.3299 552 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 760.3299 (pause 0.12) 760.4481 553 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 760.4481 prepared me a lot more 761.6633 554 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 761.6633 (pause 0.25) 761.9083 555 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 761.9083 for [school], so. 762.8775 556 ROC_int_01 762.1731 [Yeah.] 762.5087 557 ROC_int_01 762.9295 No, I think I can totally relate. [I mean going] to the /RD-SCHOOL-3/, I don't feel like I had the education 768.3244 558 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 764.7732 [Mm-hm.] 765.2743 559 ROC_int_01 768.7593 to keep up with those other kids. Everybody had AP everything. 772.3002 560 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 772.3096 Yeah. 773.0046 561 ROC_int_01 773.1728 [Everything, you know, I] took like, one or two [APs.] 776.2565 562 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 773.5652 [Yeah.] 774.1080 563 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 774.1080 (pause 1.33) 775.4387 564 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 775.4387 [Yeah], 775.8878 565 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 775.8878 (pause 0.15) 776.0343 566 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 776.0343 [cause] they didn't tell you. 777.1595 567 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 777.2635 777.4715 568 ROC_int_01 777.5499 Yeah, they didn't tell me, and on top of that, I'm just like, well if I don't think I can get a A in it, I don't wanna take it, [which is] not a great [mindset to have, right?] Like, just, whatever I can get a A in, whatever's easy. 787.8358 569 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 782.4806 [Yup.] 782.8422 570 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 782.8422 (pause 1.28) 784.1224 571 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 784.1224 [Mm-mm.] 784.9227 572 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 787.9684 Right. 788.3238 573 ROC_int_01 788.3285 But yeah, so I definitely felt that way when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 791.6756 574 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 791.8080 And not that we weren't capable. 793.5504 575 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 793.5504 (pause 0.15) 793.7017 576 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 793.7017 This is another thing that makes me mad. We live in a college town, like, 797.2103 577 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 797.2103 (pause 0.40) 797.6122 578 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 797.6122 I don't understand why 799.3944 579 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 799.3944 (pause 0.52) 799.9145 580 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 799.9145 colleges don't, 800.8694 581 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 800.8694 (pause 0.41) 801.2807 582 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 801.2807 you know, kind of advertise almost to- You know, if you go down south 805.5410 583 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 805.5410 (pause 0.30) 805.8436 584 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 805.8436 everybody's goal from 807.3516 585 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 807.3516 (pause 0.62) 807.9690 586 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 807.9690 middle school, maybe even, 809.5621 587 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 809.5621 (pause 0.50) 810.0613 588 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 810.0613 um, elementary, it's to either, you know, play a sport, or they're gonna go to that- they're- they're gonna go to that university. 816.7440 589 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 816.7440 (pause 0.56) 817.3074 590 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 817.3074 That's not the mindset here, like, I don't feel like that's the culture, 820.3046 591 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 820.3046 (pause 0.34) 820.6450 592 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 820.6450 at least for the city schools, you know, maybe suburbs, little different, but I don't feel like they advertise, or 826.6450 593 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 826.6450 (pause 0.52) 827.1650 594 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 827.1650 they 827.4581 595 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 827.4581 (pause 0.21) 827.6709 596 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 827.6709 input themselves into the schools as much as they should. 830.6803 597 ROC_int_01 830.9545 Mm. 831.1679 598 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 831.1436 Whereas, you know, 832.1061 599 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 832.4039 people- I meet people from 833.6850 600 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 833.6850 (pause 0.14) 833.8221 601 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 833.8221 all different places and they're like, yeah I know the U of R, I know, I've heard about it, and 837.7960 602 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 837.7960 (pause 0.83) 838.6261 603 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 838.6261 you're a little more excited than me, and I live there, you know. [] 841.9400 604 ROC_int_01 841.7301 [Mm-hm, yeah.] 842.6425 605 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 842.2548 [You hear] great things about it, you not from here. 844.5098 606 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 845.0827 I don't know, I've always wondered about that too. I just feel like 848.0894 607 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 848.0894 (pause 0.48) 848.5716 608 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 848.5716 they don't really 849.3658 609 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 849.3658 (pause 0.52) 849.8905 610 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 849.8905 advertise to 851.0922 611 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 851.0922 (pause 0.43) 851.5224 612 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 851.5224 the city schools and 853.1155 613 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 853.1155 (pause 1.22) 854.3352 614 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 854.3352 kind of help bring them up so that you're ready for their 857.0535 615 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 857.0535 (pause 0.49) 857.5413 616 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 857.5413 curriculum when you get there, so. 859.2573 617 ROC_int_01 859.5221 Yeah, yeah. 860.7112 618 ROC_int_01 860.7112 (pause 0.19) 860.9008 619 ROC_int_01 860.9008 No, I completely agree. I mean, I ended up making it, 863.5444 620 ROC_int_01 863.5444 (pause 0.13) 863.6791 621 ROC_int_01 863.6791 but 863.9687 622 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 864.1795 Right. And [not that you] weren't capable, [you know], but had you had mindset of this is what I need in ninth grade 870.7326 623 ROC_int_01 864.8697 [it was-] 865.4323 624 ROC_int_01 865.4323 (pause 0.86) 866.2927 625 ROC_int_01 866.2927 [Mm-hm.] 866.7465 626 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 870.9926 to get here, 872.0279 627 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 872.0279 (pause 0.38) 872.4061 628 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 872.4061 your perspective probably would've been totally different, you know, you woulda been AP-ed out from ninth grade all the [way up until], you know, 878.6945 629 ROC_int_01 877.3944 [Mm-hm.] 878.0090 630 ROC_int_01 878.8789 [Yeah], 879.3611 631 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 879.2145 [so.] 879.6617 632 ROC_int_01 879.4793 [but] I do feel like having the major 881.6472 633 ROC_int_01 881.9923 definitely prepared me in a different kind of way. 884.2454 634 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 884.2596 Yes. 885.0301 635 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 885.0301 (pause 0.29) 885.3233 636 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 885.3233 [Yes.] 885.9473 637 ROC_int_01 885.4320 [You know, like-] 886.4258 638 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 886.2357 [That] critical thinking, you know, we were able to figure it out, even if you didn't know, you gonna figure out a way to make it happen, 892.4673 639 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 892.8794 /so./ 893.1016 640 ROC_int_01 893.6169 [Yeah, and like] time management and knowing you had stuff that was just kind of like 898.3389 641 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 893.7020 [I think I agree.] 894.7751 642 ROC_int_01 898.4358 requirements, but things that you had to satisfy for 901.5280 643 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 901.5280 Mm-hm. 902.4250 644 ROC_int_01 902.5082 your discipline. 903.5246 645 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 903.6022 Yes. 904.2735 646 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 904.2735 (pause 0.25) 904.5280 647 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 904.5280 Yup. 904.8061 648 ROC_int_01 904.8447 Yeah, I like that part of it I guess. 906.7844 649 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 906.8411 Yeah. 907.1886 650 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 907.1886 (pause 0.22) 907.4098 651 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 907.4098 [] 908.7973 652 ROC_int_01 907.6982 [] 908.7477 653 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 909.1145 [Yeah.] 909.6085 654 ROC_int_01 909.2090 [So], where did you, um, apply to school when y- 911.7619 655 ROC_int_01 911.8611 first out of like, /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 913.0682 656 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 913.3803 So I applied- I only applied to Brockport, again not even 917.8647 657 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 917.8647 (pause 0.85) 918.7156 658 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 918.7156 realizing there was so much more out there than just 922.1770 659 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 922.1770 (pause 0.16) 922.3377 660 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 922.3377 New York State, you know. 923.6567 661 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 923.6567 (pause 0.26) 923.9214 662 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 923.9214 Looking back, I wish I would've applied to a down south school. I wish I would've gone- 928.1755 663 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 928.1755 (pause 0.38) 928.5552 664 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 928.5552 You know, I should've been on the drum line, dancing, doing something, but I didn't even know that- 932.5082 665 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 932.5082 (pause 0.63) 933.1369 666 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 933.1369 you know, you see it in the movies, but I didn't know that this culture actually existed and, um, 938.5082 667 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 938.5082 (pause 0.60) 939.1038 668 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 939.1038 again, my parents didn't really 941.0279 669 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 941.0279 (pause 1.43) 942.4556 670 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 942.4556 speak anything other th- 943.7840 671 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 943.7840 (pause 0.53) 944.3116 672 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 944.3116 speak anything into me other than, you're going to college. 946.8739 673 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 946.8739 (pause 0.19) 947.0638 674 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 947.0638 So, you know, the culture, and what to expect and 949.8341 675 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 949.8341 (pause 0.31) 950.1414 676 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 950.1414 they didn't know cause they didn't go, and I was first generation college, so 953.6311 677 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 953.6311 (pause 0.43) 954.0566 678 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 954.0566 literally like, the first person in my family to actually fill out a application. 958.3869 679 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 958.3869 (pause 0.27) 958.6545 680 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 958.6545 I had a older cousin who 960.0065 681 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 960.0065 (pause 0.48) 960.4820 682 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 960.4820 g- um, was brilliant. She had all 962.5806 683 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 962.5806 (pause 0.12) 962.6999 684 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 962.6999 straight As and even got scholarships but she ended up getting pregnant. 966.3280 685 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 966.3280 (pause 0.39) 966.7184 686 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 966.7184 So she didn't go. And, you know, she was kind of like my role model, so 969.8102 687 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 969.8102 (pause 0.48) 970.2916 688 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 970.2916 when she just kind of 971.4184 689 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 971.4184 (pause 0.16) 971.5744 690 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 971.5744 got out of school and worked, I was like, okay well, 973.5930 691 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 973.5930 (pause 0.29) 973.8863 692 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 973.8863 what's life, you know, you just 975.1763 693 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 975.1763 (pause 0.09) 975.2650 694 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 975.2650 go to college. 975.9593 695 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 975.9593 (pause 0.38) 976.3423 696 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 976.3423 So I applied to Brockport, 977.6392 697 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 977.6392 (pause 0.65) 978.2854 698 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 978.2854 978.3861 699 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 978.3861 (pause 0.12) 978.5043 700 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 978.5043 didn't get in because I applied right to the nursing program. 981.8513 701 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 981.8513 (pause 0.52) 982.3694 702 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 982.3694 And my father goes, well, I'm not paying for you to take liberal arts there. We don't have any money, so 987.8210 703 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 987.8210 (pause 0.35) 988.1661 704 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 988.1661 you're going to MCC. 989.2440 705 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 989.2440 (pause 0.24) 989.4804 706 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 989.4804 I'm like I don't wanna go to MCC. That's thirteenth grade. That's all I've heard all my life. 994.0810 707 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 994.0810 (pause 0.65) 994.7287 708 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 994.7287 So I ended up, um, kind of last minute just 998.2042 709 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 998.2042 (pause 0.30) 998.5021 710 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 998.5021 picking /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 1000.0196 711 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1000.0196 (pause 0.39) 1000.4072 712 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1000.4072 which was a horrible mistake. 1002.5866 713 ROC_int_01 1002.7813 Aw, [really?] 1003.6606 714 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1003.3864 [Yeah], it was horrible. I- because I wasn't stimulated. I was bored, you know, I literally- 1008.6650 715 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1008.9203 I was almost depressed even because I literally was just going to school and just 1013.1097 716 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1013.1097 (pause 1.12) 1014.2329 717 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1014.2329 working and going to school wor- I was working three jobs just to keep up with 1017.9061 718 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1017.9061 (pause 0.74) 1018.6417 719 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1018.6417 school books and tuition cause I didn't get any financial [aid.] 1022.1731 720 ROC_int_01 1022.0218 [] 1022.5466 721 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1022.5655 I didn't qualify for EOP. 1024.4715 722 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1024.4715 (pause 0.25) 1024.7260 723 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1024.7260 I- I like didn't have any help, and I had to take out loans in my name, so it was just like, 1029.6339 724 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1029.6339 (pause 0.47) 1030.1075 725 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1030.1075 I'm working, I wasn't ready for all this responsibility, and now I'm adjusting to school, you know, nobody's really 1035.9912 726 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1035.9912 (pause 0.39) 1036.3789 727 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1036.3789 explaining how this works, a Q, a W, or whatever. You know what I'm saying, nothing- nobody explained anything to me, so. 1042.3789 728 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1042.3789 (pause 0.55) 1042.9273 729 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1042.9273 Um, 1043.3527 730 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1043.3527 (pause 0.67) 1044.0221 731 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1044.0221 I went there for two years, and I, 1046.1447 732 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1046.1447 (pause 0.93) 1047.0741 733 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1047.0741 um, ended up being waitlisted for the nursing program, 1050.1483 734 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1050.1483 (pause 0.22) 1050.3718 735 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1050.3718 and after 1051.9603 736 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1051.9603 (pause 0.92) 1052.8783 737 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1052.8783 I went back for a semester and I was like, I'm not happy. 1055.4122 738 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1055.4122 (pause 0.32) 1055.7290 739 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1055.7290 So I went and got my LPN. 1057.2465 740 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1057.2465 (pause 0.79) 1058.0360 741 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1058.0360 Ended up doing that, which I wish I would've 1060.3486 742 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1060.3486 (pause 0.16) 1060.5093 743 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1060.5093 done first actually, if I would've known about vocational [school.] 1064.3371 744 ROC_int_01 1063.8658 [Mm.] 1064.3244 745 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1064.8255 Had I had known that option was available, 1066.8667 746 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1066.8667 (pause 0.35) 1067.2211 747 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1067.2211 I actually would've just done that. 1069.0913 748 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1069.0913 (pause 0.23) 1069.3198 749 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1069.3198 Um, 1069.8276 750 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1069.8276 (pause 0.68) 1070.5106 751 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1070.5106 I'm the type of person who needs experience to learn. So, 1073.4076 752 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1073.4076 (pause 0.31) 1073.7200 753 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1073.7200 you can spew 1074.7365 754 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1074.7365 (pause 0.28) 1075.0163 755 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1075.0163 everything from a book to me, but if I can't apply it to anything, like, and make it tangible, it- it just doesn't 1081.3427 756 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1081.3427 (pause 0.21) 1081.5572 757 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1081.5572 stick to me. So, 1082.6436 758 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1082.6436 (pause 0.43) 1083.0726 759 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1083.0726 going to LPN school and getting my LPN in ten months and being able to actually work in the field, 1088.0002 760 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1088.0002 (pause 0.48) 1088.4851 761 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1088.4851 made so much sense. 1089.6656 762 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1089.6656 (pause 0.38) 1090.0425 763 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1090.0425 Except now, I'm in this point where I was like, okay I'm'a go back to school, I'm'a go back to school and here we are seven years later, I'm just now signing back up to go to school, so. 1098.5174 764 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1098.5174 (pause 0.40) 1098.9137 765 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1098.9137 I'm actually gonna be, um, starting /RD-SCHOOL-3/ in two weeks to finish out my RN. 1103.7107 766 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1103.7107 (pause 0.77) 1104.4801 767 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1104.4801 [Yay, ] 1105.9442 768 ROC_int_01 1104.7677 [Yay, congrats.] 1106.7136 769 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1106.5706 [but] I'm mad at myself, because I let my sciences expire. So, I have to retake my sciences, and- 1112.3406 770 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1112.8395 but the journey was worth the experience that I've gained. 1115.9671 771 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1115.9671 (pause 0.22) 1116.1863 772 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1116.1863 Going through the process, so. 1117.7179 773 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1117.7179 (pause 0.31) 1118.0299 774 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1118.0299 1118.1386 775 ROC_int_01 1118.1269 Yeah. 1118.4664 776 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1118.6483 No worries. If I passed it before, I know I can pass it again, so, 1121.6174 777 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1121.6174 (pause 0.41) 1122.0231 778 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1122.0231 yeah. [] 1123.4406 779 ROC_int_01 1123.1795 [Yeah.] 1123.5029 780 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1123.9302 But [yeah], 1124.7555 781 ROC_int_01 1124.2380 [Now], 1124.7602 782 ROC_int_01 1125.1245 after you get your RN, cause we know that's gonna [happen-] 1128.1070 783 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1127.8478 [yes], speak it. [] 1130.0235 784 ROC_int_01 1129.1884 [Yes we're gonna] claim that. 1130.9328 785 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1130.9887 Yes, [yes.] 1131.9912 786 ROC_int_01 1131.5482 [Do you] think you'll stay in Rochester? 1134.0464 787 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1134.2702 Um, 1134.7225 788 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1134.7225 (pause 0.24) 1134.9650 789 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1134.9650 so, after I get my RN, I actually wanna get my master's. My goal was always to become a nurse practitioner, um, and specialize in obstetrics. 1142.8628 790 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1142.8628 (pause 0.59) 1143.4503 791 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1143.4503 Now I've been coming across this question c- um, 1146.9650 792 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1146.9650 (pause 0.33) 1147.2971 793 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1147.2971 especially since we're older now, 1149.0633 794 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1149.0633 (pause 0.32) 1149.3850 795 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1149.3850 I feel like, 1150.0845 796 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1150.0845 (pause 0.40) 1150.4843 797 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1150.4843 ah, you're too old to be on campus again, you're a old hag, you can't be on campus cause you're so old. 1156.8807 798 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1156.8807 (pause 0.58) 1157.4589 799 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1157.4589 Um, but then I think about it. 1159.2821 800 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1159.2821 (pause 0.74) 1160.0201 801 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1160.0201 1160.1002 802 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1160.1002 (pause 0.16) 1160.2603 803 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1160.2603 And, um, you know /RD-NAME-2/ you know who [/RD-NAME-2/ [is, yeah.] 1163.0206 804 ROC_int_01 1162.5118 [Yeah.] 1163.0112 805 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1163.3936 And so, w- /RD-NAME-2/ went to Nazareth, and I kind of hung out there a lot, you know. 1167.1519 806 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1167.1519 (pause 0.17) 1167.3244 807 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1167.3244 That was my college experience basically at Nazareth, 1170.3542 808 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1170.3542 (pause 0.29) 1170.6479 809 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1170.6479 through her. 1171.1748 810 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1171.1748 (pause 0.45) 1171.6225 811 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1171.6225 Um, 1172.0375 812 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1172.0375 (pause 0.23) 1172.2706 813 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1172.2706 and I just remember meeting so many people. I don't know if you know /RD-NAME-4/? 1176.9891 814 ROC_int_01 1177.4173 That name sounds [extremely familiar, /inaudible/] 1180.7734 815 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1178.7141 [You probably do know her, yeah] she's- um, she's really, 1182.8065 816 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1183.2588 um, active in the community with different things. Um, 1186.0005 817 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1186.0005 (pause 0.26) 1186.2559 818 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1186.2559 I'm pretty sure, cause she- I don't think she knows /RD-NAME-2/ I'm pretty sure you- you [probably know exactly] who she is, but 1191.3804 819 ROC_int_01 1189.8266 [/Probably/.] 1190.3592 820 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1191.7751 she was older. Uh- while we were in school and I remember meeting her 1195.4826 821 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1195.4826 (pause 0.39) 1195.8743 822 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1195.8743 and thinking, wow like, if she could do it, you know, why can't I? You know, it's a school, do what you wanna do. 1202.5131 823 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1202.5131 (pause 0.50) 1203.0110 824 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1203.0110 So, lately I've been going back and forth with, um, 1205.9485 825 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1205.9485 (pause 0.65) 1206.5966 826 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1206.5966 do I wanna stay in state 1208.0841 827 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1208.0841 (pause 0.34) 1208.4245 828 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1208.4245 for my master's, or would I like to 1210.6708 829 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1210.6708 (pause 0.54) 1211.2117 830 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1211.2117 experience life 1212.9370 831 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1212.9370 (pause 0.29) 1213.2260 832 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1213.2260 outside of Rochester? 1214.7929 833 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1214.7929 (pause 0.94) 1215.7336 834 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1215.7336 I don't know financially where I'll be, 1217.9578 835 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1217.9578 (pause 0.25) 1218.2096 836 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1218.2096 um, and then I've recently just gotten into a relationship. So, 1221.5716 837 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1221.5716 (pause 0.55) 1222.1264 838 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1222.1264 all of that kind of plays a factor. Um, 1225.2774 839 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1225.2774 (pause 0.44) 1225.7157 840 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1225.7157 now that I'm older, you know, I'm not getting any younger. 1229.3003 841 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1229.3003 (pause 0.35) 1229.6454 842 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1229.6454 /I like [this-/] 1230.1641 843 ROC_int_01 1229.8619 [You have] time. 1230.7831 844 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1230.8811 [I do. I have] plenty of time and I'm not rushing anything, but, you know, 1235.0905 845 ROC_int_01 1231.0458 [] 1231.8836 846 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1235.3050 we'll see. I don't know where my heart is gonna be. I- I'm one of 'em people that follow my heart, 1239.5249 847 ROC_int_01 1239.7487 Mm. 1240.2215 848 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1240.2384 which is the- not always a good thing. 1241.7296 849 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1241.7296 (pause 0.25) 1241.9801 850 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1241.9801 But I follow my heart, and it- it hasn't led me too 1244.8402 851 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1244.8402 (pause 0.16) 1245.0010 852 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1245.0010 far from where I need to be, but 1246.7557 853 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1246.7557 (pause 0.59) 1247.3466 854 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1247.3466 we'll see. 1247.9518 855 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1247.9518 (pause 0.29) 1248.2449 856 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1248.2449 We'll- we'll see. I'm not sure. That's- that's a open ended question. [] 1252.4173 857 ROC_int_01 1251.9256 [Yeah.] 1252.2944 858 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1252.6962 [I don't know], so we'll see. 1254.2279 859 ROC_int_01 1252.7860 [Yeah.] 1253.2257 860 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1254.5313 I've entertained it. 1255.6517 861 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1255.6517 (pause 0.32) 1255.9684 862 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1255.9684 I definitely wanted to do, um, traveling nursing for sure, 1259.3864 863 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1259.3864 (pause 0.52) 1259.9112 864 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1259.9112 um, once I get my RN though. 1261.9637 865 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1261.9637 (pause 0.18) 1262.1434 866 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1262.1434 I wanna 1262.6929 867 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1262.6929 (pause 0.16) 1262.8560 868 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1262.8560 experience the world. I love to travel, so 1265.3864 869 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1265.3864 (pause 0.62) 1266.0038 870 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1266.0038 that's what, 1266.5959 871 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1266.5959 (pause 0.17) 1266.7684 872 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1266.7684 um, has been my kind of 1268.5688 873 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1268.5688 (pause 0.16) 1268.7248 874 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1268.7248 goal for the next maybe three, four years, so. 1271.6322 875 ROC_int_01 1271.8261 Mm-hm, 1272.4123 876 ROC_int_01 1272.4123 (pause 0.25) 1272.6637 877 ROC_int_01 1272.6637 and do you travel a lot now, or? 1274.8194 878 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1274.8667 Yes, too much, 1277.0082 879 ROC_int_01 1277.1642 So [where have you] been? 1278.6136 880 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1277.6067 [T-] 1278.0179 881 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1278.6325 too much. That would be the reason why I haven't 1280.8828 882 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1280.8828 (pause 0.25) 1281.1295 883 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1281.1295 gone back to school in the last- 1282.7888 884 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1282.7888 (pause 0.47) 1283.2615 885 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1283.2615 we'll add it up, seven years. Um, 1285.4173 886 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1285.4173 (pause 0.12) 1285.5402 887 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1285.5402 I've been to Jamaica twice. 1287.9431 888 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1287.9431 (pause 0.37) 1288.3166 889 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1288.3166 Um, in 1289.1439 890 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1289.1439 (pause 0.19) 1289.3386 891 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1289.3386 high school I had the chance to go to China, which really kind of like- 1292.9078 892 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1292.9078 (pause 0.43) 1293.3380 893 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1293.3380 that's where my travel bug 1294.7799 894 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1294.7799 (pause 0.11) 1294.8895 895 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1294.8895 came from. 1295.5419 896 ROC_int_01 1295.6114 Mm-hm. 1296.2449 897 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1296.2939 Um, 1296.8086 898 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1296.8086 (pause 0.38) 1297.1868 899 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1297.1868 I've been to Canada a bunch of times. Um, I been to DR, 1302.0285 900 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1302.0285 (pause 0.58) 1302.6100 901 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1302.6100 Dominican Republic, I should say. 1304.4017 902 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1304.4017 (pause 0.59) 1304.9954 903 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1304.9954 Um, where else have I been? 1306.9810 904 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1306.9810 (pause 1.89) 1308.8681 905 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1308.8681 And, you know, traveling in the states. I've been to different states, mm. 1312.6259 906 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1312.6259 (pause 0.96) 1313.5908 907 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1313.5908 Sh- you want me to name 'em all, [or?] 1314.9929 908 ROC_int_01 1314.7140 [Oh], no, you don't [/inaudible/] 1316.7468 909 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1315.3569 [ Yeah, I'm like, I'm like], I've been to a ton of- I've never been out west. That's probably the only place I haven't been. 1320.2290 910 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1320.5844 Like, southwest and out west, but, 1322.3525 911 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1322.3525 (pause 0.75) 1323.0994 912 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1323.0994 um, 1323.4776 913 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1323.4776 (pause 0.12) 1323.5958 914 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1323.5958 I do love to travel, whether it's for pleasure or like historic r- you know, sites, visiting different things. I love- 1330.0847 915 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1330.0847 (pause 0.43) 1330.5157 916 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1330.5157 /I'm/ very nostalgic, so 1331.6267 917 ROC_int_01 1331.7827 [Mm-hm.] 1332.3952 918 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1331.9103 [love to] travel. 1332.7991 919 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1332.9457 1333.3694 920 ROC_int_01 1333.3522 So is there anywhere you've been where you feel like, 1336.0621 921 ROC_int_01 1336.2098 you know, this feels like an- it could be another home for me. 1339.2482 922 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1339.3144 No, and that's the problem. That's why I haven't, um, 1342.8959 923 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1342.8959 (pause 0.31) 1343.2079 924 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1343.2079 really 1343.7752 925 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1343.7752 (pause 0.26) 1344.0399 926 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1344.0399 kind of made the decision to move. 1345.9668 927 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1345.9668 (pause 0.20) 1346.1634 928 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1346.1634 Um, Charlotte was the only place that I came this close to feeling like that. 1350.4607 929 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1350.4607 (pause 0.49) 1350.9484 930 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1350.9484 I don't know if I didn't have enough time to experience it maybe, 1354.1064 931 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1354.1064 (pause 0.70) 1354.8025 932 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1354.8025 but, um, Charlotte was cool. 1356.6856 933 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1356.6856 (pause 0.28) 1356.9693 934 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1356.9693 I really did enjoy Charlotte, so. 1358.8130 935 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1358.8130 (pause 0.47) 1359.2838 936 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1359.2838 That's probably the only place. 1360.2671 937 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1360.2671 (pause 0.40) 1360.6642 938 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1360.6642 Um, 1361.0424 939 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1361.0424 (pause 0.36) 1361.4045 940 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1361.4045 I love Miami, but I don't think I could actually see myself living there. It's too- 1365.2399 941 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1365.2399 (pause 0.65) 1365.8923 942 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1365.8923 I don't think I could ever live in like a metropolitan area, 1368.7863 943 ROC_int_01 1368.8052 Yeah. 1369.3016 944 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1369.3394 too- 1369.6479 945 ROC_int_01 1369.6597 Yeah. 1370.0095 946 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1370.0249 too [crazy.] 1370.8049 947 ROC_int_01 1370.3237 [/Let's turn] this up some more./ 1371.5683 948 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1371.8208 /I think/ [it's too] too crazy, 1373.2674 949 ROC_int_01 1372.2510 [Yeah.] 1372.6339 950 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1373.3998 [] 1374.1449 951 ROC_int_01 1374.0515 [Yeah.] 1374.5533 952 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1375.0213 so. 1375.4373 953 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1375.4373 (pause 0.35) 1375.7824 954 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1375.7824 But Charlotte was cool. 1377.0061 955 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1377.0061 (pause 0.13) 1377.1408 956 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1377.1408 It was cool, yeah. 1378.1462 957 ROC_int_01 1378.6926 Yeah, [okay.] 1379.8083 958 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1379.3072 [Mm-hm.] 1379.7904 959 ROC_int_01 1380.2034 Well, um, 1381.1868 960 ROC_int_01 1381.1868 (pause 0.44) 1381.6230 961 ROC_int_01 1381.6230 how long is your RN program? 1383.5127 962 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1384.0828 So I'm gonna be doing the LPN to RN program, which is only ten mo- eighteen months, 1390.7432 963 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1390.7432 (pause 0.48) 1391.2215 964 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1391.2215 save the exception of some classes I don't have to take, so it might be a little shorter for me. 1396.0672 965 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1396.0672 (pause 0.31) 1396.3772 966 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1396.3772 But because recently, as in literally this semester, my sciences expire. 1401.4087 967 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1401.4087 (pause 0.28) 1401.6884 968 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1401.6884 So now I have to retake those. 1403.4660 969 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1403.4660 (pause 0.41) 1403.8772 970 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1403.8772 It'll probably be a year in total once I finish out my pre-reqs. 1407.7018 971 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1407.7018 (pause 0.10) 1407.8066 972 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1407.8066 But I'm'a try to see, cause technically 1410.1089 973 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1410.1089 (pause 0.49) 1410.5958 974 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1410.5958 my 1411.3333 975 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1411.3333 (pause 0.27) 1411.6075 976 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1411.6075 second half of my sciences won't e- expire until next fall. 1415.4423 977 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1415.4423 (pause 0.79) 1416.2365 978 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1416.2365 So I'm gonna try if they'll let me slide through and apply to the program, 1420.1367 979 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1420.1367 (pause 0.46) 1420.5993 980 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1420.5993 to get in for 1421.4955 981 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1421.4955 (pause 0.25) 1421.7413 982 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1421.7413 next /fall/ without it 1423.1678 983 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1423.1678 (pause 0.83) 1423.9952 984 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1423.9952 expiring, 1424.9076 985 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1424.9076 (pause 0.25) 1425.1609 986 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1425.1609 [maybe. We'll] see. 1425.9929 987 ROC_int_01 1425.2129 [Mm-hm.] 1425.6984 988 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1426.1348 If that's the case, it'll only take a year. 1427.9172 989 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1427.9172 (pause 0.13) 1428.0520 990 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1428.0520 I'll be done 1428.6261 991 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1428.6261 (pause 0.28) 1428.9092 992 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1428.9092 by next year, 1429.5333 993 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1429.5333 (pause 0.82) 1430.3511 994 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1430.3511 next- 1430.8002 995 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1430.8002 (pause 0.72) 1431.5235 996 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1431.5235 that's two thousand 1432.7243 997 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1432.7243 (pause 1.14) 1433.8692 998 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1433.8692 nineteen, 1434.6019 999 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1434.6019 (pause 0.38) 1434.9849 1000 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1434.9849 spring of two thousand nineteen, yeah, 1436.8239 1001 ROC_int_01 1437.0697 Okay. 1437.4457 1002 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1437.8166 so. 1438.1076 1003 ROC_int_01 1438.0921 Cool. 1438.5378 1004 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1438.6250 Yeah 1438.9410 1005 ROC_int_01 1438.9410 Awesome. 1439.5296 1006 ROC_int_01 1439.5296 (pause 0.43) 1439.9609 1007 ROC_int_01 1439.9609 Well, um, 1440.9206 1008 ROC_int_01 1440.9206 (pause 0.22) 1441.1428 1009 ROC_int_01 1441.1428 /inaudible/ okay, 1442.3422 1010 ROC_int_01 1442.3422 (pause 0.14) 1442.4870 1011 ROC_int_01 1442.4870 cool. 1442.6407 1012 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1442.6537 [] 1443.5566 1013 ROC_int_01 1443.0992 [Um], 1443.5460 1014 ROC_int_01 1443.7532 1443.8419 1015 ROC_int_01 1443.8419 (pause 0.33) 1444.1692 1016 ROC_int_01 1444.1692 what- 1444.9162 1017 ROC_int_01 1444.9162 (pause 0.43) 1445.3428 1018 ROC_int_01 1445.3428 I wanna turn to some questions actually, um, more about [Rochester in general.] 1449.2616 1019 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1448.2026 [Hello.] 1449.2616 1020 ROC_int_01 1449.6918 1450.2118 1021 ROC_int_01 1450.2118 (pause 0.43) 1450.6373 1022 ROC_int_01 1450.6373 Um, 1451.2707 1023 ROC_int_01 1451.2707 (pause 0.25) 1451.5213 1024 ROC_int_01 1451.5213 what are your favorite things to do here? 1454.8286 1025 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1456.3886 [/?/] 1457.0166 1026 ROC_int_01 1456.9134 [Or] about here, about Rochester in general, I can- 1459.8817 1027 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1460.6334 It's so bad that the food was the first thing that came to my mind. (laughing) 1464.1479 1028 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1464.1479 (pause 0.13) 1464.2826 1029 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1464.2826 1464.7222 1030 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1464.7222 (pause 0.47) 1465.1915 1031 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1465.1915 Um, the food, seriously, 1467.0305 1032 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1467.0305 (pause 0.34) 1467.3717 1033 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1467.3717 cause when you go somewhere else, there's- I don't- 1470.1893 1034 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1470.1893 (pause 0.25) 1470.4351 1035 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1470.4351 unless it's like New York. Honestly, New York is probably the only place I could think of that satisfies my food cravings like here. 1477.2246 1036 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1477.2246 (pause 0.53) 1477.7541 1037 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1477.7541 There's just so many different 1479.5032 1038 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1479.5032 (pause 0.70) 1480.1990 1039 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1480.1990 things to enjoy here, whether it's like Caribbean food, or, 1483.9384 1040 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1483.9384 (pause 0.52) 1484.4584 1041 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1484.4584 um, 1485.0825 1042 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1485.0825 (pause 0.79) 1485.8767 1043 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1485.8767 1485.9586 1044 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1485.9586 (pause 0.19) 1486.1517 1045 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1486.1517 garbage plates I love. You know garbage plates are like staples here. Um, 1490.6712 1046 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1490.6712 (pause 1.19) 1491.8586 1047 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1491.8586 I don't know. I just- even- you- you can actually get good seafood here too, which is t- depending on where you are, it's hard to get good seafood, so. 1498.9648 1048 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1498.9648 (pause 0.63) 1499.5936 1049 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1499.5936 There's just- 1500.3547 1050 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1500.3547 (pause 0.87) 1501.2293 1051 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1501.2293 food is- I don't know. I love food, and food is good here. 1504.5744 1052 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1504.5744 (pause 0.43) 1505.0046 1053 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1505.0046 Um, other than that, 1507.4562 1054 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1507.4562 (pause 1.44) 1508.8962 1055 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1508.8962 I'm kind of, drawing short [] 1512.0163 1056 ROC_int_01 1511.6665 [Yeah], okay. 1512.6289 1057 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1512.6526 of ideas. 1513.7068 1058 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1513.7068 (pause 0.31) 1514.0188 1059 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1514.0188 There's- 1514.3970 1060 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1514.3970 (pause 0.30) 1514.6948 1061 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1514.6948 um, 1515.2621 1062 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1515.2621 (pause 1.07) 1516.3369 1063 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1516.3369 I mean, we do have unique things here that, you know- 1519.2435 1064 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1519.2435 (pause 0.92) 1520.1606 1065 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1520.1606 Obviously Rochester is a very historic place. 1522.6386 1066 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1522.6386 (pause 0.22) 1522.8608 1067 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1522.8608 A lot of people don't realize how many 1524.7034 1068 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1524.7034 (pause 0.11) 1524.8145 1069 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1524.8145 treasures are in our back yard. 1526.7563 1070 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1526.7563 (pause 0.56) 1527.3169 1071 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1527.3169 Um, and I'm the history buff so uh, like this- 1529.6995 1072 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1529.6995 (pause 0.28) 1529.9813 1073 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1529.9813 you know, things like the Susan B. Anthony house excite me. I- I'm excited to go see things like that. Um, 1535.6523 1074 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1535.6523 (pause 0.77) 1536.4256 1075 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1536.4256 I don't think I'm going to that graveyard, the, um, Mount Hope Cemetery. [I'm- I don't] think I'm'a do [that, but] 1541.4821 1076 ROC_int_01 1539.6478 [Mm-hm.] 1540.1855 1077 ROC_int_01 1540.1855 (pause 0.71) 1540.8959 1078 ROC_int_01 1540.8959 [] 1541.5766 1079 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1542.1250 just to know that we have, um, those things here. And even working in healthcare, 1546.1537 1080 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1546.1537 (pause 0.35) 1546.4988 1081 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1546.4988 um, learning about the nursing history and how, 1549.4070 1082 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1549.4070 (pause 0.45) 1549.8561 1083 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1549.8561 um, it's evolved here, 1552.0343 1084 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1552.0343 (pause 0.14) 1552.1714 1085 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1552.1714 and 1552.7304 1086 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1552.7304 (pause 0.66) 1553.3856 1087 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1553.3856 how the hospitals were started, you know, 1555.4704 1088 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1555.4704 (pause 0.62) 1556.0885 1089 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1556.0885 eighteen fifty-seven I wanna go back as far as. 1560.1156 1090 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1560.1156 (pause 0.62) 1560.7310 1091 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1560.7310 I can't 1561.3975 1092 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1561.3975 (pause 0.14) 1561.5394 1093 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1561.5394 [remember] exactly, but, you know, to know that 1564.0875 1094 ROC_int_01 1561.7298 [/Mm-hm/.] 1562.1168 1095 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1565.2201 it's evolved from way back when, and 1567.5035 1096 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1567.5035 (pause 0.18) 1567.6831 1097 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1567.6831 some things are still in place from that long ago, 1570.8344 1098 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1570.8344 (pause 0.35) 1571.1843 1099 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1571.1843 it's kind of impressive. 1572.1676 1100 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1572.1676 (pause 0.36) 1572.5324 1101 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1572.5324 Other than the history and the food, 1574.4140 1102 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1574.4140 (pause 0.79) 1575.2082 1103 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1575.2082 it's nothing to do. Like I'm bored here, and 1577.8414 1104 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1577.8414 (pause 0.66) 1578.5013 1105 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1578.5013 I don't really like being here, /and so/ I'm always kind of 1580.6775 1106 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1580.6775 (pause 0.22) 1580.8973 1107 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1580.8973 on the go, traveling, 1582.3414 1108 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1582.3414 (pause 0.43) 1582.7763 1109 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1582.7763 so. 1583.1309 1110 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1583.1309 (pause 0.56) 1583.6943 1111 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1583.6943 School is good. That's why I'm here too. I- I- 1586.3180 1112 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1586.3180 (pause 0.63) 1586.9468 1113 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1586.9468 I can't say that either, but who likes to be in school, you know. 1590.4838 1114 ROC_int_01 1590.6283 [Mm-hm.] 1591.2027 1115 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1590.6492 [School isn't] fun, so. 1592.0344 1116 ROC_int_01 1592.3005 So Rochester then isn't like a great place for young, black millennials? 1596.6120 1117 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1596.7422 I don't think so. 1598.3403 1118 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1598.3403 (pause 0.28) 1598.6239 1119 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1598.6239 I don't think so. 1599.7869 1120 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1599.7869 (pause 0.40) 1600.1895 1121 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1600.1895 I think, um, 1601.4990 1122 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1601.4990 (pause 1.80) 1603.2955 1123 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1603.2955 now with- 1604.0389 1124 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1604.0389 (pause 0.13) 1604.1669 1125 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1604.1669 Let me say this, I do think 1606.0107 1126 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1606.0107 (pause 0.26) 1606.2754 1127 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1606.2754 Rochester is a very open minded place, 1609.5863 1128 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1609.5863 (pause 0.17) 1609.7541 1129 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1609.7541 um, in some places. 1611.4890 1130 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1611.4890 (pause 0.32) 1611.8066 1131 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1611.8066 I- I don't 1612.6765 1132 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1612.6765 (pause 0.56) 1613.2343 1133 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1613.2343 think I walk outside my door, and the first thing on my mind is let me be conscious of where I go because I'm worried about my safety. 1619.8380 1134 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1619.8380 (pause 0.36) 1620.1973 1135 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1620.1973 However there are places that I do go, and I'm like, 1622.6706 1136 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1622.6706 (pause 0.11) 1622.7794 1137 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1622.7794 well, make sure you say this proper, make sure you don't, you know, be too loud 1626.6687 1138 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1626.6687 (pause 0.43) 1627.0958 1139 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1627.0958 cause people are gonna 1628.0641 1140 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1628.0641 (pause 0.19) 1628.2532 1141 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1628.2532 judge you. 1629.0994 1142 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1629.0994 (pause 0.60) 1629.6998 1143 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1629.6998 Um, but 1630.6548 1144 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1630.6548 (pause 0.48) 1631.1398 1145 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1631.1398 I don't think I'm worried, 1632.5994 1146 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1632.5994 (pause 0.13) 1632.7246 1147 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1632.7246 you know, 1633.3002 1148 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1633.3002 (pause 0.47) 1633.7710 1149 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1633.7710 about 1634.2769 1150 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1634.2769 (pause 0.23) 1634.5085 1151 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1634.5085 police necessarily pulling me over and killing me. 1637.2221 1152 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1637.2221 (pause 0.13) 1637.3500 1153 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1637.3500 That's not the first thing on my mind 1639.0686 1154 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1639.0686 (pause 0.15) 1639.2198 1155 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1639.2198 living here. So there- I'm safe. 1641.1770 1156 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1641.1770 (pause 0.76) 1641.9390 1157 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1641.9390 I'm comfortable here. I'm not, you know- 1644.0427 1158 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1644.0427 (pause 0.64) 1644.6809 1159 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1644.6809 Whereas I had a experience in- 1646.4584 1160 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1646.4584 (pause 0.15) 1646.6078 1161 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1646.6078 Um, my brother lives in Maryland. He moved to Maryland, 1649.3119 1162 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1649.3119 (pause 0.34) 1649.6523 1163 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1649.6523 and we went down to Ocean City for a weekend. 1652.1019 1164 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1652.1019 (pause 0.33) 1652.4329 1165 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1652.4329 Um, now, 1653.2413 1166 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1653.2413 (pause 0.12) 1653.3594 1167 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1653.3594 you know, Maryland was a huge slave state, huge slave state. 1656.7254 1168 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1656.7254 (pause 0.17) 1656.8964 1169 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1656.8964 Frederick Douglass was born there. I think Harriet Tubman was 1660.2435 1170 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1660.2435 (pause 0.17) 1660.4184 1171 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1660.4184 born- I could be wrong, but I know for sure Har- um, Frederick Douglass was born there. 1664.0168 1172 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1664.0168 (pause 0.68) 1664.6933 1173 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1664.6933 And, so anyway, we went to Ocean City. We were dancing 1667.6806 1174 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1667.6806 (pause 0.30) 1667.9799 1175 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1667.9799 at this club, um, 1669.4974 1176 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1669.4974 (pause 0.19) 1669.6826 1177 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1669.6826 the name of it- 1670.4248 1178 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1670.4248 (pause 0.33) 1670.7557 1179 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1670.7557 Fager Island, it's called Fager Island. 1672.6373 1180 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1672.6373 (pause 0.46) 1673.1019 1181 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1673.1019 Mostly white people, you know, obviously we stand out. It's a group, we went for his 1677.5883 1182 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1677.5883 (pause 0.53) 1678.1186 1183 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1678.1186 wedding. They were- um, he got married to a girl that lives there and we went kind of for 1682.8886 1184 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1682.8886 (pause 0.66) 1683.5466 1185 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1683.5466 their, um, engagement party. 1685.2721 1186 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1685.2721 (pause 0.34) 1685.6078 1187 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1685.6078 You know, we went out after. 1686.8180 1188 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1686.8180 (pause 0.75) 1687.5697 1189 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1687.5697 1687.6595 1190 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1687.6595 (pause 0.14) 1687.7978 1191 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1687.7978 And, um, we were the only black people with an exception of maybe like, a cluster of three other people. 1694.2032 1192 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1694.2032 (pause 0.15) 1694.3533 1193 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1694.3533 And when I say cluster, I mean two people like, a group of two people, two and three people. 1698.4370 1194 ROC_int_01 1698.6970 Mm. 1698.9051 1195 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1699.2415 So we stood out, you know. It was a group of eight of us maybe. 1702.0402 1196 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1702.0402 (pause 0.53) 1702.5677 1197 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1702.5677 And we were dancing with the guys, and after a while the guys were like trying so hard to- 1707.4938 1198 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1707.4938 (pause 0.82) 1708.3172 1199 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1708.3172 to show us like, oh, we know black people, we love reggae, we're down. 1712.1559 1200 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1712.1559 (pause 0.77) 1712.9233 1201 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1712.9233 And then, at one point one of them says, 1715.2138 1202 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1715.2138 (pause 0.13) 1715.3395 1203 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1715.3395 oh we love beautiful ebony women, and I was like, 1718.0909 1204 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1718.0909 (pause 0.21) 1718.3024 1205 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1718.3024 w- [what?] 1720.1455 1206 ROC_int_01 1719.5322 [] 1720.8750 1207 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1721.2390 First of all, who even says ebony? Like why you just couldn't say black, if you were gonna- 1725.8720 1208 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1725.8720 (pause 0.21) 1726.0848 1209 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1726.0848 you had to notate to fact that we're- obviously I'm black. I'm not 1729.7351 1210 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1729.7351 (pause 0.29) 1730.0282 1211 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1730.0282 orange or gray. 1731.1770 1212 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1731.1770 (pause 0.75) 1731.9248 1213 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1731.9248 But- but that- the fact that that was like- 1734.0947 1214 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1734.0947 (pause 0.35) 1734.4493 1215 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1734.4493 that stood out before anything, 1736.6192 1216 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1736.6192 (pause 0.53) 1737.1514 1217 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1737.1514 it just bothered me. So they were explaining to me like, yeah it's pretty racist down here. You gotta be careful where you are, where you go because, 1743.8200 1218 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1743.8200 (pause 0.43) 1744.2510 1219 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1744.2510 you know, 1744.7143 1220 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1744.7143 (pause 0.77) 1745.4801 1221 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1745.4801 it's /techsni-/ it's technically below the Mason-Dixon Line, and 1749.1306 1222 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1749.1306 (pause 2.10) 1751.2296 1223 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1751.2296 life hasn't changed a bit much there for people, so, you know. 1755.7490 1224 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1755.7490 (pause 0.30) 1756.0477 1225 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1756.0477 The metropolitan areas 1757.8583 1226 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1757.8583 (pause 0.55) 1758.4112 1227 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1758.4112 I guess, but when you think about it, these are people that were born and raised there, and their family having the same values, traditions, and beliefs, and 1765.7446 1228 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1765.7446 (pause 0.55) 1766.2958 1229 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1766.2958 they just move into the city with the same mindset, so. 1769.6759 1230 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1769.6759 (pause 1.21) 1770.8901 1231 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1770.8901 I don't think I would feel as safe in a place like that where I'm 1774.0687 1232 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1774.0687 (pause 0.09) 1774.1555 1233 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1774.1555 here, 1774.6879 1234 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1774.6879 (pause 1.00) 1775.6868 1235 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1775.6868 um. 1775.9893 1236 ROC_int_01 1777.1326 Yeah, so you feel like, uh, you're not like, I guess racialized in the same sort of way 1781.6678 1237 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1782.1500 [No.] 1782.7457 1238 ROC_int_01 1782.2871 [as you would] be in those sorts of places. 1784.5621 1239 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1784.5039 No, I don't think, you know, 1786.2293 1240 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1786.3995 I'm- I'm not worry about a confederate (laughing) flag flying, you know, across my face or 1790.8886 1241 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1790.8886 (pause 0.24) 1791.1259 1242 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1791.1259 driving behind somebody and they spit on my car because I'm black, you know. /But the-/ and my brother has told me about things that have happened just because he's 1798.7621 1243 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1798.7621 (pause 0.19) 1798.9559 1244 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1798.9559 black, so. 1799.6698 1245 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1799.6698 (pause 0.54) 1800.2096 1246 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1800.2096 I don't worry about that 1801.2401 1247 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1801.2401 (pause 0.47) 1801.7082 1248 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1801.7082 here, so. 1802.6064 1249 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1802.6064 (pause 0.21) 1802.8191 1250 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1802.8191 I'm thankful for that, I should say. 1804.4596 1251 ROC_int_01 1804.7338 Yeah. 1805.0344 1252 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1805.0269 It's good, yeah. 1805.8889 1253 ROC_int_01 1806.0070 Yeah. 1806.5507 1254 ROC_int_01 1806.5507 (pause 0.11) 1806.6567 1255 ROC_int_01 1806.6567 And do you think that Rochester is, uh, segregated? 1810.3839 1256 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1811.4988 I do. 1812.2056 1257 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1812.2056 (pause 0.47) 1812.6788 1258 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1812.6788 Um, 1813.1645 1259 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1813.1645 (pause 0.59) 1813.7554 1260 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1813.7554 I feel it's more 1814.9318 1261 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1814.9318 (pause 0.09) 1815.0204 1262 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1815.0204 an economic thing though. 1816.6935 1263 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1816.6935 (pause 0.08) 1816.7734 1264 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1816.7734 It- it's- 1817.6225 1265 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1817.6225 (pause 0.48) 1818.1037 1266 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1818.1037 it's, um, 1819.0752 1267 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1819.0752 (pause 1.27) 1820.3433 1268 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1820.3433 very evident, the areas that are, 1822.7922 1269 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1822.7922 (pause 0.55) 1823.3414 1270 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1823.3414 you know, poverty-stricken, and- 1825.2891 1271 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1825.2891 (pause 1.37) 1826.6553 1272 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1826.6553 However, it tends to be more minorities in those areas, so 1832.0452 1273 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1832.0452 (pause 0.11) 1832.1569 1274 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1832.1569 you can then subdivide it into 1834.6200 1275 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1834.6200 (pause 0.24) 1834.8611 1276 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1834.8611 minorities are poor in Rochester. 1837.3998 1277 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1837.3998 (pause 0.67) 1838.0719 1278 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1838.0719 Um, 1838.6487 1279 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1838.6487 (pause 0.68) 1839.3247 1280 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1839.3247 which is frustrating because I think it boils down to resources when you 1843.0878 1281 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1843.0878 (pause 0.37) 1843.4621 1282 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1843.4621 have this conversation about Rochester. I don't feel like 1846.1378 1283 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1846.1378 (pause 0.95) 1847.0928 1284 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1847.0928 we couldn't all be on the same page, but again going back to high school resources, you know. How come the city schools aren't targeted or marketed by colleges? How come they don't have programs where, 1858.9557 1285 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1858.9557 (pause 0.35) 1859.3055 1286 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1859.3055 you know, start up in ninth grade so that you can be prepared, or even a- a buddy buddy program or a sister, you know. 1865.7215 1287 ROC_int_01 1865.9579 [Mm.] 1866.2841 1288 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1866.1234 [Something] that I could think of, and then you 1869.0458 1289 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1869.4051 go to, or I have friends that went to suburb schools, and they're like, oh yeah, we all had tablets. What? 1874.2157 1290 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1874.2157 (pause 0.11) 1874.3291 1291 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1874.3291 How did you- 1875.1990 1292 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1875.1990 (pause 0.40) 1875.5942 1293 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1875.5942 how did you afford that? We barely had books that didn't break apart, you know. 1878.8923 1294 ROC_int_01 1879.1756 Mm-hm. 1879.5444 1295 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1879.8044 Um, 1880.3150 1296 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1880.3150 (pause 0.86) 1881.1733 1297 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1881.1733 1881.2613 1298 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1881.2613 (pause 0.31) 1881.5752 1299 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1881.5752 and obviously, 1883.0360 1300 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1883.0360 (pause 0.58) 1883.6175 1301 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1883.6175 I think racism up here is just a bit more polite, 1886.3319 1302 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1886.3319 (pause 0.18) 1886.5115 1303 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1886.5115 so 1887.1923 1304 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1887.1923 (pause 0.42) 1887.6130 1305 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1887.6130 the polite way of doing it is breaking it down economically. So, you know, you're black, you're gonna live in a poor neighborhood. We don't have to fund you. 1894.8847 1306 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1894.8847 (pause 0.64) 1895.5235 1307 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1895.5235 This No Child Left Behind thing, you know, 1897.9887 1308 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1897.9887 (pause 0.33) 1898.3177 1309 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1898.3177 we don't have to fund you cause you didn't do great. Now we're gonna close your school because you suck, 1902.8041 1310 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1902.8041 (pause 0.40) 1903.2087 1311 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1903.2087 and just pump that money somewhere else, whereas 1905.4537 1312 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1905.4537 (pause 0.26) 1905.7089 1313 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1905.7089 you should've pumped more money into that school, given them more resources and helped the kids, and it might've 1910.6236 1314 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1910.6236 (pause 0.64) 1911.2618 1315 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1911.2618 turned into something totally different, so. 1913.3891 1316 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1913.3891 (pause 0.53) 1913.9147 1317 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1913.9147 Uh, that does frustrate me a lot, 1915.9523 1318 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1915.9523 (pause 0.32) 1916.2690 1319 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1916.2690 and 1916.7418 1320 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1916.7418 (pause 1.70) 1918.4458 1321 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1918.4458 I think we're in a cycle now where people are so used to- 1922.4272 1322 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1922.4272 (pause 0.55) 1922.9756 1323 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1922.9756 um, 1923.5145 1324 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1923.5145 (pause 0.61) 1924.1291 1325 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1924.1291 it's the norm. People are just used to black people being 1927.1263 1326 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1927.1263 (pause 0.15) 1927.2756 1327 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1927.2756 dumb, or black people [not] making it through school, or black people- 1930.4288 1328 ROC_int_01 1928.3157 [Mm.] 1928.5993 1329 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1930.8496 I shouldn't even say black people. I should say minorities. Um, 1933.5356 1330 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1933.5356 (pause 0.19) 1933.7294 1331 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1933.7294 getting out of school and working, or 1935.3132 1332 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1935.3132 (pause 0.17) 1935.4833 1333 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1935.4833 having kids and 1936.6274 1334 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1936.6274 (pause 0.35) 1936.9781 1335 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1936.9781 being in the system, you know. 1938.2687 1336 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1938.2687 (pause 0.44) 1938.7130 1337 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1938.7130 Which 1939.1574 1338 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1939.1574 (pause 0.38) 1939.5356 1339 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1939.5356 again, statistically, we aren't 1941.4313 1340 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1941.4313 (pause 0.71) 1942.1452 1341 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1942.1452 obviously the only people using the system. 1944.6752 1342 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1944.6752 (pause 0.87) 1945.5451 1343 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1945.5451 It's just kind of 1947.2895 1344 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1947.2895 (pause 0.44) 1947.7292 1345 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1947.7292 we're 1948.2114 1346 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1948.2114 (pause 0.22) 1948.4316 1347 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1948.4316 the face of 1949.8357 1348 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1949.8357 (pause 0.16) 1949.9964 1349 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1949.9964 the system, so. 1951.0695 1350 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1951.0695 (pause 0.48) 1951.5496 1351 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1951.5496 1951.6230 1352 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1951.6230 (pause 0.22) 1951.8382 1353 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1951.8382 It's unfortunate. 1952.9917 1354 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1952.9917 (pause 0.56) 1953.5543 1355 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1953.5543 I'm kind of scared for the generation under us cause it [seems like] that's just what they know. So they used to it, that's what they know. 1960.1357 1356 ROC_int_01 1956.5759 [Mm-hm.] 1957.0345 1357 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1960.8571 And it's becoming the norm for them, [so.] 1963.7456 1358 ROC_int_01 1963.4629 [Mm-hm.] 1963.7565 1359 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1964.0503 [Mm.] 1964.4699 1360 ROC_int_01 1964.3043 [So] what would- what do you think would need to happen to fix the circumstances I guess that they're gonna enter into, and to also get more 1971.7164 1361 ROC_int_01 1971.9811 like young black millennials to want to stay in Rochester? 1975.6316 1362 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1976.7662 I- well, 1977.6502 1363 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1977.6502 (pause 0.18) 1977.8298 1364 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1977.8298 the- 1978.2801 1365 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1978.2801 (pause 0.21) 1978.4858 1366 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1978.4858 the economy has to change, again with the, 1980.8507 1367 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1980.8507 (pause 0.15) 1981.0048 1368 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1981.0048 you know, 1981.4586 1369 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1981.4586 (pause 0.62) 1982.0779 1370 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1982.0779 Kodak was a huge loss. Um, 1984.5937 1371 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1984.5937 (pause 1.33) 1985.9269 1372 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1985.9269 Xerox is pretty much, kind of the only big name still here. 1989.8318 1373 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1989.8318 (pause 0.17) 1989.9981 1374 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1989.9981 Um, 1990.5417 1375 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1990.5417 (pause 0.32) 1990.8585 1376 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1990.8585 didn't 1991.3265 1377 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1991.3265 (pause 0.45) 1991.7803 1378 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1991.7803 Bausch and Lomb hi- like they went through- 1994.2197 1379 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1994.2197 (pause 0.48) 1994.7047 1380 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1994.7047 a huge thing too, so 1995.8487 1381 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1995.8487 (pause 0.27) 1996.1210 1382 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1996.1210 I think we need more resources, 1998.3335 1383 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1998.3335 (pause 0.22) 1998.5584 1384 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1998.5584 opportunities 1999.8065 1385 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 1999.8065 (pause 0.20) 2000.0098 1386 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2000.0098 that aren't just 2000.8134 1387 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2000.8134 (pause 0.52) 2001.3335 1388 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2001.3335 working class opportunities. 2003.0684 1389 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2003.0684 (pause 0.47) 2003.5412 1390 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2003.5412 Um, 2004.1510 1391 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2004.1510 (pause 1.52) 2005.6741 1392 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2005.6741 it would help 2006.3880 1393 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2006.3880 (pause 0.24) 2006.6243 1394 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2006.6243 stimulate the economy, and it would help, you know- 2009.5081 1395 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2009.5081 (pause 0.32) 2009.8323 1396 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2009.8323 Obviously they're gonna think, okay, we need people. 2012.1914 1397 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2012.1914 (pause 0.31) 2012.5055 1398 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2012.5055 We can't just rely on everybody that's here. We need to 2015.1610 1399 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2015.1610 (pause 0.30) 2015.4589 1400 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2015.4589 extend our resources to the future because they're gonna become the present. 2019.3638 1401 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2019.3638 (pause 1.24) 2020.6079 1402 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2020.6079 Um, 2021.1421 1403 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2021.1421 (pause 0.44) 2021.5782 1404 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2021.5782 I don't know what would help. I'm not a 2024.2859 1405 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2024.2859 (pause 0.47) 2024.7532 1406 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2024.7532 analyst or [anything.] 2026.3026 1407 ROC_int_01 2026.0142 [Mm-hm.] 2026.4066 1408 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2026.6382 I don't know, but I just know that you have to invest into the future 2030.5345 1409 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2030.5345 (pause 0.32) 2030.8524 1410 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2030.8524 in order to h- make the present what you want it to be. 2033.9430 1411 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2033.9430 (pause 0.45) 2034.3882 1412 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2034.3882 And I definitely think our school systems need a overhaul. 2037.7258 1413 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2037.7258 (pause 0.17) 2037.8960 1414 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2037.8960 It's- it's really sad. 2039.5317 1415 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2039.5317 (pause 0.76) 2040.2881 1416 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2040.2881 Now, 2040.8176 1417 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2040.8176 (pause 1.12) 2041.9341 1418 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2041.9341 I have a friend who has a daughter who goes to Brighton. You know, she's getting everything she needs, and she went out of her way to put her into Brighton, just for that reason. 2050.6099 1419 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2050.6099 (pause 0.51) 2051.1204 1420 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2051.1204 You know, she's in accelerated math, and she's 2053.5937 1421 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2053.5937 (pause 0.43) 2054.0214 1422 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2054.0214 in all these advanced classes. 2055.4404 1423 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2055.4404 (pause 0.09) 2055.5338 1424 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2055.5338 I have no doubt that when she graduates, she's gonna be where she needs to be. 2059.2870 1425 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2059.2870 (pause 0.73) 2060.0159 1426 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2060.0159 Why can't that be the same in every school no matter what district? 2064.4255 1427 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2064.4255 (pause 1.16) 2065.5864 1428 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2065.5864 It's- I think that 2066.9255 1429 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2066.9255 (pause 0.54) 2067.4692 1430 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2067.4692 plays a huge part. Um, 2069.2183 1431 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2069.2183 (pause 0.19) 2069.4130 1432 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2069.4130 and experiences. I don't think a lot of kids here even know- 2073.0390 1433 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2073.0390 (pause 0.81) 2073.8474 1434 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2073.8474 like, I was talking about college, what to look forward to. I don't think a lot of kids even realize that the corner is 2079.9986 1435 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2079.9986 (pause 0.09) 2080.0932 1436 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2080.0932 just like 2080.8496 1437 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2080.8496 (pause 0.38) 2081.2339 1438 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2081.2339 a small dot on the map. Like, there's so much more 2085.2767 1439 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2085.2767 (pause 0.62) 2085.9007 1440 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2085.9007 to life than Rochester. 2087.9005 1441 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2087.9005 (pause 0.84) 2088.7381 1442 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2088.7381 I think we're just stuck. 2089.8916 1443 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2089.8916 (pause 0.35) 2090.2367 1444 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2090.2367 Not- I shouldn't say we, but, you know what I mean, when I say we, I [think] 2093.4797 1445 ROC_int_01 2093.1110 [Mm-hm.] 2093.4372 1446 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2093.6783 a lot of people are just stuck in their circumstances here because they don't know that there's more out there 2099.1819 1447 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2099.1819 (pause 0.49) 2099.6736 1448 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2099.6736 that what they're in, so. 2100.7041 1449 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2100.7041 (pause 0.52) 2101.2226 1450 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2101.2226 2101.2827 1451 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2101.2827 (pause 0.37) 2101.6505 1452 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2101.6505 I don't know what it would take, but 2103.1302 1453 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2103.1302 (pause 0.31) 2103.4422 1454 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2103.4422 that's a start. [] 2105.0353 1455 ROC_int_01 2104.7659 [Yeah.] 2105.0968 1456 ROC_int_01 2105.3521 Right. 2105.7728 1457 ROC_int_01 2105.7728 (pause 0.14) 2105.9174 1458 ROC_int_01 2105.9174 Okay, so, 2106.9575 1459 ROC_int_01 2106.9575 (pause 0.19) 2107.1513 1460 ROC_int_01 2107.1513 we've talked a little bit about, uh, segregation as well as like, um, 2111.4000 1461 ROC_int_01 2111.4000 (pause 0.60) 2112.0025 1462 ROC_int_01 2112.0025 and how it 2112.6738 1463 ROC_int_01 2112.6738 (pause 0.65) 2113.3262 1464 ROC_int_01 2113.3262 kind of is more so by economic, 2115.6994 1465 ROC_int_01 2115.6994 (pause 0.54) 2116.2439 1466 ROC_int_01 2116.2439 um, circumstances. Um, 2118.7542 1467 ROC_int_01 2118.7542 (pause 0.74) 2119.4964 1468 ROC_int_01 2119.4964 h- what is your take on, I guess, 2121.7325 1469 ROC_int_01 2121.7325 (pause 0.19) 2121.9186 1470 ROC_int_01 2121.9186 diversity here in Rochester? Do you think this is a diverse place to live? 2126.0873 1471 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2126.2481 It's very diverse, 2127.8285 1472 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2127.8285 (pause 0.55) 2128.3763 1473 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2128.3763 but depending on where you're from, your experience with 2132.3471 1474 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2132.3471 (pause 0.16) 2132.5121 1475 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2132.5121 diversity varies. 2134.1277 1476 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2134.1277 (pause 0.47) 2134.6004 1477 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2134.6004 Um, 2135.0826 1478 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2135.0826 (pause 0.74) 2135.8276 1479 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2135.8276 even in nursing school, like I experienced so much 2138.9643 1480 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2138.9643 (pause 0.49) 2139.4591 1481 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2139.4591 flack, you know. 2140.4330 1482 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2140.4330 (pause 0.78) 2141.2083 1483 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2141.2083 Thank god my name is /RD-NAME-3/, because that has gotten me through so many doors on paper. 2146.6051 1484 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2146.6051 (pause 0.51) 2147.1110 1485 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2147.1110 And then I get there and have to prove myself extra hard, you know. 2149.8966 1486 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2149.8966 (pause 0.36) 2150.2544 1487 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2150.2544 I'd have the same ideas and the same- I'd say, hey guys, 2153.8532 1488 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2153.8532 (pause 0.38) 2154.2322 1489 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2154.2322 we should do this. Oh no, because that's not right. 2157.3855 1490 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2157.3855 (pause 0.73) 2158.1182 1491 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2158.1182 And don't you know on every project, the teacher would comment, 2160.4394 1492 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2160.4394 (pause 0.39) 2160.8326 1493 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2160.8326 you should've done this. 2161.9814 1494 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2161.9814 (pause 1.09) 2163.0687 1495 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2163.0687 I don't know if it was because I'm black or what, but when you're the only black girl in the group and everybody ignores your comment, input, 2169.0477 1496 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2169.0477 (pause 0.36) 2169.4044 1497 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2169.4044 and thoughts and ideas, you can't help but wonder, you know, did you th- think that I was ignorant cause I went to a city school? Or what was it, you know? 2176.5531 1498 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2176.5531 (pause 0.46) 2177.0117 1499 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2177.0117 Um, 2177.4703 1500 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2177.4703 (pause 0.65) 2178.1227 1501 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2178.1227 a lot of girls that I went to nursing school with, 2180.1563 1502 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2180.1563 (pause 0.32) 2180.4731 1503 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2180.4731 most- 2181.0356 1504 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2181.0356 (pause 0.86) 2181.8960 1505 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2181.8960 most of all, 2183.3426 1506 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2183.3426 (pause 0.70) 2184.0403 1507 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2184.0403 yeah, all of them- 2185.2128 1508 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2185.2128 (pause 0.67) 2185.8841 1509 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2185.8841 none of them went to a city school. 2187.9122 1510 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2187.9122 (pause 0.64) 2188.5512 1511 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2188.5512 So, you know, I'm only- I'm one of the few people, with the exception of maybe the older women who were like in their fifties, 2195.2981 1512 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2195.2981 (pause 0.61) 2195.9033 1513 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2195.9033 which obviously they lived in a totally different time frame, so 2199.4252 1514 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2199.4252 (pause 0.41) 2199.8326 1515 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2199.8326 if you- you can't even really- 2201.5251 1516 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2201.5251 (pause 1.02) 2202.5415 1517 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2202.5415 Cause race in that time obviously was a huge- 2206.0993 1518 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2206.0993 (pause 0.63) 2206.7281 1519 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2206.7281 there was a huge difference. 2207.9383 1520 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2207.9383 (pause 0.82) 2208.7617 1521 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2208.7617 Um, 2209.2675 1522 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2209.2675 (pause 1.11) 2210.3785 1523 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2210.3785 so resources probably were a l- I don't know. I didn't live then, so I can't really speak on that but obviously, you know, white people weren't, 2217.0744 1524 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2217.0744 (pause 0.11) 2217.1881 1525 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2217.1881 um, 2217.5734 1526 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2217.5734 (pause 0.24) 2217.8137 1527 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2217.8137 left behind. In the fifties, you were the- 2220.6823 1528 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2220.6823 (pause 0.10) 2220.7840 1529 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2220.7840 the forethought. 2221.7233 1530 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2221.7233 (pause 0.68) 2222.4071 1531 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2222.4071 Um, but with the exception of them, 2224.6174 1532 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2224.6174 (pause 0.82) 2225.4352 1533 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2225.4352 the girls that were my age or maybe a few years older, you know, 2229.1085 1534 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2229.1085 (pause 0.63) 2229.7428 1535 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2229.7428 they were very naive to things 2231.8607 1536 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2231.8607 (pause 0.47) 2232.3287 1537 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2232.3287 as far as life wa- went in the city or 2234.8721 1538 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2234.8721 (pause 0.21) 2235.0848 1539 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2235.0848 what 2235.4063 1540 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2235.4063 (pause 0.47) 2235.8799 1541 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2235.8799 their idea of city schools were. And 2237.9931 1542 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2237.9931 (pause 0.53) 2238.5226 1543 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2238.5226 like, 2238.7826 1544 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2238.7826 (pause 0.31) 2239.0898 1545 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2239.0898 I- 2239.3499 1546 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2239.3499 (pause 0.26) 2239.6146 1547 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2239.6146 even work. I worked with a girl who went 2242.4019 1548 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2242.4019 (pause 0.19) 2242.5910 1549 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2242.5910 one time, 2243.2717 1550 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2243.2717 (pause 0.37) 2243.6387 1551 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2243.6387 oh my god, I don't think I could live in the city. Everyday there's a shooting, and 2248.0237 1552 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2248.0237 (pause 0.46) 2248.4870 1553 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2248.4870 I just couldn't handle it, 2249.9411 1554 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2249.9411 (pause 0.30) 2250.2436 1555 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2250.2436 you know. I was (laughing) like what? 2251.8179 1556 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2251.8179 (pause 0.42) 2252.2386 1557 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2252.2386 What is she talking about? I'm like, I've never 2254.9266 1558 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2254.9266 (pause 0.33) 2255.2575 1559 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2255.2575 personally witnessed anybody get shot. 2257.2345 1560 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2257.2345 (pause 0.34) 2257.5701 1561 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2257.5701 I've never- 2258.3170 1562 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2258.3170 (pause 0.24) 2258.5581 1563 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2258.5581 I've heard gunshots, but, I mean 2260.3357 1564 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2260.3357 (pause 0.25) 2260.5892 1565 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2260.5892 if you live in the country, you can hear gunshots too. People go hunting all the time. What's the difference, right? 2265.2000 1566 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2265.2000 (pause 0.53) 2265.7256 1567 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2265.7256 So I turned to her, and I said, okay well, 2267.8056 1568 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2267.8056 (pause 0.32) 2268.1271 1569 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2268.1271 I've never actually walked out of my house and gotten shot before, so I don't really see what the difference is, you know. 2273.6402 1570 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2273.6402 (pause 0.62) 2274.2642 1571 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2274.2642 Mind you, we just had a huge story 2276.2119 1572 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2276.2119 (pause 0.32) 2276.5334 1573 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2276.5334 at that time 2277.4505 1574 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2277.4505 (pause 0.40) 2277.8469 1575 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2277.8469 about how people were breaking and entering into city- uh, suburb houses, stealing things during Christmas. 2284.0234 1576 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2284.0234 (pause 0.49) 2284.5103 1577 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2284.5103 Like just walking into people's houses, stealing things while they were sleep, so 2288.0181 1578 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2288.0181 (pause 0.37) 2288.3896 1579 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2288.3896 what's the difference, you know? 2289.5337 1580 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2289.5337 (pause 1.15) 2290.6852 1581 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2290.6852 What's the difference? 2291.5078 1582 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2291.5078 (pause 0.12) 2291.6260 1583 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2291.6260 I don't really think there is a big one, other than 2293.6588 1584 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2293.6588 (pause 0.84) 2294.4956 1585 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2294.4956 the experience 2295.6830 1586 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2295.6830 (pause 0.63) 2296.3165 1587 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2296.3165 and 2296.8601 1588 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2296.8601 (pause 0.83) 2297.6922 1589 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2297.6922 fear will make people make up stories and 2300.3348 1590 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2300.3348 (pause 0.67) 2301.0023 1591 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2301.0023 tend to stay away. 2302.0565 1592 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2302.0565 (pause 1.13) 2303.1863 1593 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2303.1863 So I don't know. 2304.1035 1594 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2304.1035 (pause 1.08) 2305.1813 1595 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2305.1813 I don't think, um, 2306.4058 1596 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2306.4058 (pause 0.33) 2306.7328 1597 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2306.7328 outside of the city, diversity is experienced 2309.9002 1598 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2309.9002 (pause 0.20) 2310.0987 1599 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2310.0987 the way it is inside of the city. 2312.1552 1600 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2312.1552 (pause 2.01) 2314.1605 1601 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2314.1605 It's- it's a different take depending on where you come from I guess, 2317.3610 1602 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2317.3610 (pause 0.44) 2317.7999 1603 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2317.7999 /so./ 2318.2025 1604 ROC_int_01 2318.5523 Mm-hm. 2319.0723 1605 ROC_int_01 2319.0723 (pause 0.62) 2319.6972 1606 ROC_int_01 2319.6972 Yeah. 2320.0754 1607 ROC_int_01 2320.0754 (pause 0.86) 2320.9311 1608 ROC_int_01 2320.9311 Yeah, 2321.4227 1609 ROC_int_01 2321.4227 (pause 0.39) 2321.8151 1610 ROC_int_01 2321.8151 I agree. I think it is 2323.9094 1611 ROC_int_01 2323.9094 (pause 0.90) 2324.8104 1612 ROC_int_01 2324.8104 different across the city, but 2326.5595 1613 ROC_int_01 2326.5595 (pause 0.87) 2327.4274 1614 ROC_int_01 2327.4274 also too, um, 2329.3184 1615 ROC_int_01 2329.3184 (pause 0.46) 2329.7817 1616 ROC_int_01 2329.7817 I think it's interesting because 2331.7823 1617 ROC_int_01 2331.7823 (pause 2.05) 2333.8293 1618 ROC_int_01 2333.8293 w- I feel like we interact with, 2336.0417 1619 ROC_int_01 2336.0417 (pause 1.25) 2337.2878 1620 ROC_int_01 2337.2878 you know, people in the suburbs all the time cause that's where our grocery stores are. That's where 2341.5548 1621 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2341.5816 [Mm-hm.] 2342.5537 1622 ROC_int_01 2342.3457 [any] t- kind of 2343.4283 1623 ROC_int_01 2343.5937 commerce, [right.] (laughing) 2344.8363 1624 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2344.4203 [Mm-hm.] 2345.3421 1625 ROC_int_01 2345.2665 [And] business dealings happen, and they don't happen actually in our- 2348.4497 1626 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2348.5738 [Mm-hm.] 2349.3810 1627 ROC_int_01 2348.7322 [downtown.] 2349.6552 1628 ROC_int_01 2349.8187 Yet, you know, they have more of a choice as to whether or not 2352.6883 1629 ROC_int_01 2352.6883 (pause 1.20) 2353.8852 1630 ROC_int_01 2353.8852 they want to interact with city 2355.6355 1631 ROC_int_01 2355.6355 (pause 0.10) 2355.7324 1632 ROC_int_01 2355.7324 residents. 2356.3777 1633 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2355.8908 [] 2355.9420 1634 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2356.6413 This is true. 2357.4686 1635 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2357.4686 (pause 0.26) 2357.7333 1636 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2357.7333 And you can almost kind of see, you know, somebody scooting over, looking at you twice when you go into the store. 2363.8590 1637 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2363.8590 (pause 0.26) 2364.1190 1638 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2364.1190 Not- and I'm not saying this happen a- 2365.7498 1639 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2365.7498 (pause 0.11) 2365.8588 1640 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2365.8588 this happens all the time, but 2367.5039 1641 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2367.5039 (pause 0.42) 2367.9192 1642 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2367.9192 you get 2368.5030 1643 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2368.5030 (pause 0.25) 2368.7500 1644 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2368.7500 people who, you know, kind of look at you- especially my hair. 2371.8162 1645 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2371.8162 (pause 0.32) 2372.1330 1646 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2372.1330 I change my hair up all the time. 2373.8443 1647 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2373.8443 (pause 0.28) 2374.1213 1648 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2374.1213 So depending on how I look when I go somewhere, I get treated different, 2377.8938 1649 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2377.8938 (pause 0.26) 2378.1499 1650 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2378.1499 even at work. 2379.0670 1651 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2379.0670 (pause 0.72) 2379.7918 1652 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2379.7918 It pisses me off when people think they can stick their hands in my hair. Like, 2383.6858 1653 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2383.6858 (pause 0.35) 2384.0379 1654 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2384.0379 okay, 2384.7083 1655 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2384.7083 (pause 0.39) 2385.0971 1656 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2385.0971 even if my hair did grow eighteen inches overnight, 2387.4611 1657 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2387.4611 (pause 0.41) 2387.8692 1658 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2387.8692 that doesn't give you the right (laughing) stick your hand in my- your hand in my hair and try to feel it, you know. 2392.6716 1659 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2392.6716 (pause 0.31) 2392.9836 1660 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2392.9836 I /wouldn't/ coming to work /if/ like, oh my god, it's curly today, and 2395.4427 1661 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2395.4427 (pause 0.33) 2395.7756 1662 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2395.7756 /you know./ 2396.0827 1663 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2396.0827 (pause 0.58) 2396.6671 1664 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2396.6671 So again, diversity, experiencing things and just- 2399.8487 1665 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2399.8487 (pause 0.44) 2400.2876 1666 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2400.2876 but again 2401.0642 1667 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2401.0642 (pause 0.13) 2401.1988 1668 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2401.1988 a lot of that is upbringing and how you were raised. 2403.6382 1669 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2403.6382 (pause 0.51) 2404.1449 1670 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2404.1449 What your family instills in you is usually what you kind of 2407.3501 1671 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2407.3501 (pause 0.76) 2408.1112 1672 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2408.1112 branch off of. 2409.3687 1673 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2409.3687 (pause 0.42) 2409.7856 1674 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2409.7856 So, a lot of it is kind of old school ideology and people not really realizing that 2415.1040 1675 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2415.1040 (pause 0.38) 2415.4830 1676 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2415.4830 what their grandparents 2416.7878 1677 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2416.7878 (pause 0.68) 2417.4686 1678 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2417.4686 learned or taught them isn't necessarily the truth about 2420.7589 1679 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2420.7589 (pause 0.87) 2421.6268 1680 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2421.6268 minorities 2422.5676 1681 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2422.5676 (pause 0.19) 2422.7531 1682 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2422.7531 or diversity in general, so. 2424.3640 1683 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2424.3640 (pause 0.29) 2424.6552 1684 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2424.6552 2424.7139 1685 ROC_int_01 2424.9624 Yeah. 2425.5014 1686 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2425.6523 Yeah. 2426.3712 1687 ROC_int_01 2426.5131 Yeah. 2426.9811 1688 ROC_int_01 2426.9811 (pause 0.13) 2427.1115 1689 ROC_int_01 2427.1115 So it would make sense that, you know, the girl in your class 2430.2269 1690 ROC_int_01 2430.2269 (pause 0.52) 2430.7497 1691 ROC_int_01 2430.7497 would say something like that about shootings in Rochester if you 2433.8206 1692 ROC_int_01 2433.8206 (pause 0.19) 2434.0097 1693 ROC_int_01 2434.0097 really have no 2435.5982 1694 ROC_int_01 2435.5982 (pause 0.67) 2436.2695 1695 ROC_int_01 2436.2695 kind of, um, 2437.2914 1696 ROC_int_01 2437.2914 (pause 0.33) 2437.6223 1697 ROC_int_01 2437.6223 interaction with- 2438.7522 1698 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2439.3290 Which, not to say that it doesn't happen, 2441.9196 1699 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2441.9196 (pause 0.21) 2442.1300 1700 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2442.1300 [but] 2442.5673 1701 ROC_int_01 2442.3924 [Mm-hm.] 2442.8840 1702 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2443.0003 again, you can't assume that just because you live in the city. 2446.4143 1703 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2446.4143 (pause 0.19) 2446.6082 1704 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2446.6082 Let's think about 2447.3456 1705 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2447.3456 (pause 0.19) 2447.5395 1706 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2447.5395 Park Ave, you know, 2448.6972 1707 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2448.6972 (pause 0.08) 2448.7739 1708 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2448.7739 nobody's gonna say, oh, Park Ave, it's dangerous. But it's smack dab in the middle of the city, you know. 2454.7753 1709 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2454.7753 (pause 0.79) 2455.5628 1710 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2455.5628 [So], 2455.9363 1711 ROC_int_01 2455.6810 [Mm-hm.] 2456.1869 1712 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2456.7806 it just depends, I don't know. 2458.3501 1713 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2458.3501 (pause 0.40) 2458.7519 1714 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2458.7519 I think any city you live in, it's- 2460.5295 1715 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2460.5295 (pause 0.68) 2461.2111 1716 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2461.2111 it's dangerous. 2462.2775 1717 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2462.2775 (pause 0.09) 2462.3693 1718 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2462.3693 New York City is horrible, but people don't go, oh my god, 2465.8960 1719 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2465.8960 (pause 0.60) 2466.4916 1720 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2466.4916 New York City, you know. People run there to live there, and 2470.0239 1721 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2470.0239 (pause 1.07) 2471.0923 1722 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2471.0923 I guess you'd watch out. I don't know. 2472.9171 1723 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2472.9171 (pause 0.27) 2473.1874 1724 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2473.1874 New York City is sketchy to me no matter where you are, [whether you're in Manhattan or like] 2477.4421 1725 ROC_int_01 2475.8443 [Yeah.] 2476.2745 1726 ROC_int_01 2476.2745 (pause 0.37) 2476.6479 1727 ROC_int_01 2476.6479 [] 2477.3429 1728 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2477.6832 in the B- in Brooklyn. Sometimes I feel safer in Brooklyn than in Manhattan, so. (laughing) 2482.0381 1729 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2482.0381 (pause 0.92) 2482.9552 1730 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2482.9552 I really think it's just upbringing, 2484.6902 1731 ROC_int_01 2485.0212 Mm-hm. 2485.4826 1732 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2485.9675 how people view each other. 2487.6599 1733 ROC_int_01 2488.1705 Yeah. 2488.5865 1734 ROC_int_01 2488.5865 (pause 0.24) 2488.8276 1735 ROC_int_01 2488.8276 Okay, cool. 2489.8393 1736 ROC_int_01 2489.8393 (pause 0.31) 2490.1540 1737 ROC_int_01 2490.1540 So, um, my last, uh, question usually revolves around language stuff, 2495.0478 1738 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2495.1235 [Mm-hm.] 2495.6435 1739 ROC_int_01 2495.5064 [and] so- or 2496.7923 1740 ROC_int_01 2497.6999 f- couple questions, because I mean we started talking about this a little bit before, but first I'll start off on, um, 2503.6527 1741 ROC_int_01 2503.6527 (pause 0.22) 2503.8768 1742 ROC_int_01 2503.8768 2503.9626 1743 ROC_int_01 2503.9626 (pause 0.39) 2504.3490 1744 ROC_int_01 2504.3490 do you perceive, or has anyone ever told you 2507.1315 1745 ROC_int_01 2507.1315 (pause 0.32) 2507.4483 1746 ROC_int_01 2507.4483 that you have 2508.4789 1747 ROC_int_01 2508.4789 (pause 0.11) 2508.5923 1748 ROC_int_01 2508.5923 a Rochesterian accent? 2510.4786 1749 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2511.5005 2511.5775 1750 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2511.5775 (pause 0.32) 2511.8977 1751 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2511.8977 It depends on where I am. So when I'll go 2514.5167 1752 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2514.5167 (pause 1.46) 2515.9802 1753 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2515.9802 like in Canada, sometimes people say, oh you sound country. 2519.1051 1754 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2519.1051 (pause 0.33) 2519.4321 1755 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2519.4321 Or other places, like I've been to Jersey. 2521.8290 1756 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2521.8290 (pause 0.25) 2522.0748 1757 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2522.0748 When I go to the city, people say, oh you sound country, or oh you sound like- 2526.7389 1758 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2526.7389 (pause 0.15) 2526.8901 1759 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2526.8901 you don't sound like- even in Buffalo people actually say, you know, you don't 2530.2144 1760 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2530.2144 (pause 0.44) 2530.6588 1761 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2530.6588 sound like you're from 2532.0108 1762 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2532.0108 (pause 0.12) 2532.1337 1763 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2532.1337 New York. 2532.7956 1764 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2532.7956 (pause 0.39) 2533.1832 1765 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2533.1832 But when I go down south, people are like, oh my god, you- I can tell you're from New York. I'm like how? Cause you said son. 2539.2731 1766 ROC_int_01 2539.3834 [] 2540.2343 1767 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2539.5087 [You know, so] 2540.1942 1768 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2540.5078 certain words that you say, you don't even realize, um, 2543.6610 1769 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2543.6610 (pause 0.40) 2544.0628 1770 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2544.0628 that you say these things, 2545.3534 1771 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2545.3534 (pause 0.50) 2545.8573 1772 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2545.8573 like pop. 2546.5665 1773 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2546.5665 (pause 0.86) 2547.4221 1774 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2547.4221 Um, I went to New York City and asked for pop, and the lady was like, 2551.2920 1775 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2551.2920 (pause 0.29) 2551.5804 1776 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2551.5804 excuse me? 2552.2942 1777 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2552.2942 (pause 0.20) 2552.4955 1778 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2552.4955 And I said, pop. Y'all don't have pop? Like I 2554.6919 1779 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2554.6919 (pause 0.11) 2554.7971 1780 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2554.7971 just need a fizz. I need something- 2556.8145 1781 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2556.8145 (pause 0.29) 2557.1076 1782 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2557.1076 you know, I don't want water, I want some pop. 2558.8860 1783 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2558.8860 (pause 0.46) 2559.3445 1784 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2559.3445 She was like, what is pop? 2560.5690 1785 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2560.5690 (pause 0.15) 2560.7202 1786 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2560.7202 You know, to drink, like a coke. 2562.1905 1787 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2562.1905 (pause 0.45) 2562.6396 1788 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2562.6396 Oh, you mean soda. 2563.8262 1789 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2563.8262 (pause 1.19) 2565.0144 1790 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2565.0144 Oh, I didn't know you said soda. Like, I didn't know that some people said soda, some people said pop. I just always called it pop. 2571.2639 1791 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2571.2639 (pause 0.33) 2571.5970 1792 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2571.5970 Things like that, um, 2573.0058 1793 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2573.0058 (pause 1.11) 2574.1176 1794 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2574.1176 but other than that, 2575.2664 1795 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2575.2664 (pause 0.47) 2575.7391 1796 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2575.7391 it just depends on where I am. Sometimes I get I sound country, 2578.8025 1797 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2578.8025 (pause 0.42) 2579.2186 1798 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2579.2186 and then if I'm east, like if I'm e- on the East Coast, 2582.3679 1799 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2582.3679 (pause 1.25) 2583.6159 1800 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2583.6159 not quite 2584.4691 1801 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2584.4691 (pause 0.12) 2584.5849 1802 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2584.5849 south, but East Coast-ish, 2586.9638 1803 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2586.9638 (pause 0.18) 2587.1435 1804 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2587.1435 people say I sound country. And if I go up north or down south, people say I sound like- 2591.8265 1805 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2591.8265 (pause 0.14) 2591.9683 1806 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2591.9683 No, up north sometimes in Canada they say I sound country. 2595.3067 1807 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2595.3067 (pause 0.42) 2595.7227 1808 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2595.7227 And then sometimes they say, we can tell you're from New York. So it just depends, I guess. 2599.3062 1809 ROC_int_01 2599.3345 Yeah. 2599.9538 1810 ROC_int_01 2599.9538 (pause 0.52) 2600.4747 1811 ROC_int_01 2600.4747 The New York thing, I could 2602.5028 1812 ROC_int_01 2602.5028 (pause 0.26) 2602.7581 1813 ROC_int_01 2602.7581 see a little bit more, because it's like, that's 2605.1927 1814 ROC_int_01 2605.1927 (pause 0.23) 2605.4196 1815 ROC_int_01 2605.4196 mostly to me sounding like 2607.2547 1816 ROC_int_01 2607.2547 (pause 0.17) 2607.4202 1817 ROC_int_01 2607.4202 using certain like 2608.5028 1818 ROC_int_01 2608.5028 (pause 0.53) 2609.0370 1819 ROC_int_01 2609.0370 lexical 2609.9683 1820 ROC_int_01 2609.9683 (pause 0.17) 2610.1385 1821 ROC_int_01 2610.1385 things, [like saying son and whatever, like] 2612.5854 1822 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2610.6632 [Mm-hm.] 2611.8498 1823 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2611.8498 (pause 0.18) 2612.0275 1824 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2612.0275 [Right.] 2612.7792 1825 ROC_int_01 2612.8028 that's how people- 2613.5486 1826 ROC_int_01 2613.5486 (pause 0.10) 2613.6471 1827 ROC_int_01 2613.6471 But the southern thing, to me, 2615.2261 1828 ROC_int_01 2615.2261 (pause 0.27) 2615.5003 1829 ROC_int_01 2615.5003 is harder 2616.3796 1830 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2616.4458 Mm-hm. 2617.0293 1831 ROC_int_01 2617.0429 to understand what people 2619.3088 1832 ROC_int_01 2619.3088 (pause 0.35) 2619.6634 1833 ROC_int_01 2619.6634 mean by southern. Like, is it the way I pronounce certain words? 2623.2665 1834 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2623.4415 Y'all or hey y'all, you know, but that's because my family is from down south. 2628.4223 1835 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2628.4223 (pause 0.21) 2628.6283 1836 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2628.6283 So my family, 2629.9508 1837 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2629.9508 (pause 0.11) 2630.0619 1838 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2630.0619 when we talk to each other 2631.7437 1839 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2631.7437 (pause 0.13) 2631.8694 1840 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2631.8694 like, talking about, 2632.9485 1841 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2632.9485 (pause 0.09) 2633.0407 1842 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2633.0407 or, you know, certain things that we say to each other. 2635.8811 1843 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2635.8811 (pause 0.49) 2636.3728 1844 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2636.3728 It probably won't come out here cause I'm tryna be proper so you can understand me, but 2639.8691 1845 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2639.8691 (pause 0.48) 2640.3482 1846 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2640.3482 when we talk to each other, you can hear it, 2642.9732 1847 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2642.9732 (pause 0.24) 2643.2095 1848 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2643.2095 and so if I'm somewhere and I'm comfortable, 2645.5571 1849 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2645.5571 (pause 0.28) 2645.8408 1850 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2645.8408 it comes out. 2646.8241 1851 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2646.8241 (pause 0.71) 2647.5341 1852 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2647.5341 But 2648.1817 1853 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2648.1817 (pause 0.38) 2648.5646 1854 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2648.5646 when I'm conscious of it, I probably sound more like 2651.3113 1855 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2651.3113 (pause 0.18) 2651.4909 1856 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2651.4909 a New Yorker than anything. 2653.0146 1857 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2653.0146 (pause 0.11) 2653.1226 1858 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2653.1226 [] 2654.0231 1859 ROC_int_01 2653.3637 [Mm-hm.] 2654.0026 1860 ROC_int_01 2654.2690 What part of the South are your, uh, 2655.7676 1861 ROC_int_01 2655.7676 (pause 0.29) 2656.0552 1862 ROC_int_01 2656.0552 folks from? 2656.6508 1863 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2656.9250 Alabama, 2658.1778 1864 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2658.1778 (pause 0.16) 2658.3338 1865 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2658.3338 Florida, m- f- Florida and Alabama 2660.6361 1866 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2660.6361 (pause 0.10) 2660.7382 1867 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2660.7382 mostly, yeah. 2661.6080 1868 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2661.6080 (pause 0.45) 2662.0615 1869 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2662.0615 [So], 2662.5000 1870 ROC_int_01 2662.0808 [Yeah.] 2662.5732 1871 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2662.7489 [country.] 2663.2477 1872 ROC_int_01 2662.8884 [Right.] 2663.3777 1873 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2663.3966 [] 2663.9875 1874 ROC_int_01 2663.5337 [So many] of our family members are from the South, 2666.5605 1875 ROC_int_01 2667.4615 and so I also wonder how much that feeds in too. 2670.2866 1876 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2670.8633 A l- a [lot], I'm sure, you know, um, 2673.9768 1877 ROC_int_01 2671.4164 [/?/] 2671.7048 1878 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2675.3080 a lot cause sometimes I'm talking to people and they're like, what did you say? And I'm like, oh you- I gotta say it the right way cause they don't know what I'm talking about. You [know what I'm talking about], um, they don't know what I'm talking 2685.6978 1879 ROC_int_01 2683.1403 [Mm-hm.] 2683.7407 1880 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2685.9153 about. 2687.1445 1881 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2687.1445 (pause 0.31) 2687.4545 1882 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2687.4545 So, 2687.8753 1883 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2687.8753 (pause 0.24) 2688.1164 1884 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2688.1164 it depends, um, 2689.4070 1885 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2689.4070 (pause 0.39) 2689.7946 1886 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2689.7946 but I think it- 2690.5794 1887 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2690.5794 (pause 0.55) 2691.1333 1888 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2691.1333 here I feel like a lot of people are from down south. A lot of people have come up 2695.0146 1889 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2695.0146 (pause 0.56) 2695.5772 1890 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2695.5772 to Rochester in particular because of job opportunities and different things at the time, so 2700.1542 1891 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2700.1542 (pause 0.62) 2700.7735 1892 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2700.7735 most of everybody I know has roots somewhere else. They aren't actually born here. I can't trace anybody back that I know of that was just- has always been here, 2709.7999 1893 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2709.7999 (pause 0.63) 2710.4334 1894 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2710.4334 which 2710.8683 1895 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2710.8683 (pause 0.92) 2711.7902 1896 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2711.7902 makes sense in history. 2713.6292 1897 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2713.6292 (pause 0.81) 2714.4364 1898 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2714.4364 Unless somebody's family was an indentured servant, I don't really know anybody that was 2718.7810 1899 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2718.7810 (pause 0.23) 2719.0079 1900 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2719.0079 born and just 2719.9487 1901 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2719.9487 (pause 0.09) 2720.0385 1902 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2720.0385 bred here. 2720.7949 1903 ROC_int_01 2720.9509 Mm-hm. 2721.6364 1904 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2721.6411 Yeah. 2722.0240 1905 ROC_int_01 2722.1139 Right. 2722.5772 1906 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2722.6619 If that makes [sense.] 2723.5557 1907 ROC_int_01 2723.4423 [Now] do the people in like, say for instance, your program, do, 2727.7451 1908 ROC_int_01 2728.1545 uh, like the white girls in your program, or men too, 2731.1564 1909 ROC_int_01 2731.1564 (pause 0.25) 2731.4070 1910 ROC_int_01 2731.4070 um, 2731.9270 1911 ROC_int_01 2731.9270 (pause 0.12) 2732.0468 1912 ROC_int_01 2732.0468 shouldn't just gender it, 2733.1967 1913 ROC_int_01 2733.1967 (pause 0.001) 2733.1979 1914 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2733.2103 [] 2733.9909 1915 ROC_int_01 2733.2925 [but ] 2733.8633 1916 ROC_int_01 2734.2476 do they- do you think that 2736.2190 1917 ROC_int_01 2736.2190 (pause 0.11) 2736.3277 1918 ROC_int_01 2736.3277 the people who live like in the [suburbs] 2738.4764 1919 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2738.3019 [Mm-hm.] 2738.7651 1920 ROC_int_01 2738.8881 sound different 2739.9344 1921 ROC_int_01 2739.9344 (pause 0.12) 2740.0526 1922 ROC_int_01 2740.0526 from- 2740.5010 1923 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2740.9548 Of course they do. 2742.1508 1924 ROC_int_01 2742.3636 Yeah. 2742.6390 1925 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2742.6472 They sound like each other. 2744.1486 1926 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2744.1486 (pause 0.10) 2744.2526 1927 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2744.2526 They sound like, 2745.5466 1928 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2745.5466 (pause 1.26) 2746.8088 1929 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2746.8088 um, (breathy) 2747.9670 1930 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2747.9670 (pause 0.72) 2748.6912 1931 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2748.6912 2748.7940 1932 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2748.7940 (pause 0.65) 2749.4428 1933 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2749.4428 very polished and proper. 2751.9248 1934 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2751.9248 (pause 0.13) 2752.0571 1935 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2752.0571 2752.7407 1936 ROC_int_01 2752.7501 Mm-hm. 2753.2087 1937 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2753.5573 Um, and I don't know- 2755.1970 1938 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2755.1970 (pause 0.38) 2755.5752 1939 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2755.5752 with the exception of- I can always tell when somebody either has- 2758.9506 1940 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2758.9506 (pause 0.47) 2759.4195 1941 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2759.4195 they're foreigners or their family members are f- 2762.6342 1942 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2762.6342 (pause 0.26) 2762.8942 1943 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2762.8942 of a foreign, you know, background. 2764.6575 1944 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2764.6575 (pause 0.57) 2765.2248 1945 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2765.2248 Because obviously, a second language, you didn't learn it first. 2768.5633 1946 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2768.5633 (pause 1.02) 2769.5844 1947 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2769.5844 But most people that I've encountered, 2771.9718 1948 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2771.9718 (pause 1.06) 2773.0363 1949 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2773.0363 men and women, 2774.1898 1950 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2774.1898 (pause 0.30) 2774.4923 1951 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2774.4923 they kind of- 2775.3244 1952 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2775.3244 (pause 1.40) 2776.7237 1953 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2776.7237 I don't know. 2777.3856 1954 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2777.3856 (pause 0.30) 2777.6881 1955 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2777.6881 It's like there's no twang. I don't know if it's a minority thing or what is it, 2782.1706 1956 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2782.1706 (pause 0.53) 2782.7001 1957 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2782.7001 but it's like almost like, I hate to say white people. 2785.8399 1958 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2785.8399 (pause 0.28) 2786.1189 1959 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2786.1189 And I'm not even saying white people. I'm really saying like 2788.8608 1960 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2788.8608 (pause 0.71) 2789.5692 1961 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2789.5692 English. 2790.3634 1962 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2790.3634 (pause 0.98) 2791.3424 1963 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2791.3424 I don't know, you c- can't really generalize it either. 2793.5371 1964 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2793.5371 (pause 1.37) 2794.9081 1965 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2794.9081 I- I- minorities, I don't know. Anybody that speaks a second language other than English. 2799.7829 1966 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2799.7829 (pause 1.31) 2801.0972 1967 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2801.0972 They have a twang with everything, 2803.0268 1968 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2803.0268 (pause 0.12) 2803.1497 1969 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2803.1497 so, 2803.6698 1970 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2803.6698 (pause 0.27) 2803.9392 1971 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2803.9392 people that only know English and speak English, and especially live in the suburbs, they just kind of sound like very polished, proper, and 2812.0571 1972 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2812.0571 (pause 0.33) 2812.3833 1973 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2812.3833 punctuated. [] 2813.8252 1974 ROC_int_01 2813.5491 [Mm-hm.] 2813.9840 1975 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2814.3669 If that makes sense /?/ 2815.5747 1976 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2815.5747 (pause 0.45) 2816.0290 1977 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2816.0290 And they don't get a lot of my references like 2818.8183 1978 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2818.8183 (pause 0.49) 2819.3052 1979 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2819.3052 jokes or, 2820.0994 1980 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2820.0994 (pause 0.44) 2820.5399 1981 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2820.5399 um, I can't think of anything right now, but. 2823.1495 1982 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2823.1495 (pause 0.81) 2823.9626 1983 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2823.9626 Things I would say, they'd be like who- 2825.5613 1984 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2825.5613 (pause 0.60) 2826.1570 1985 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2826.1570 if I were to say, who shot John? You know, you know what I'm talking about. 2829.3906 1986 ROC_int_01 2829.4059 [Mm-hm.] 2829.9590 1987 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2829.7829 [If I said] that, they're like, sh- John got shot? Who shot John? Like what happened? 2834.2343 1988 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2834.5037 You know, references, 2835.8377 1989 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2835.8377 (pause 0.46) 2836.2963 1990 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2836.2963 which are obviously cultural references, but 2839.2273 1991 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2839.2273 (pause 1.53) 2840.7534 1992 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2840.7534 it's boring. I don't know. I don't know, I could- I don't have another way to describe, it's like there's almost no subculture within their culture, you [know], 2848.0193 1993 ROC_int_01 2847.9484 [Mm.] 2848.3120 1994 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2848.3171 which is 2848.8608 1995 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2848.8608 (pause 1.07) 2849.9353 1996 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2849.9353 kind of- 2850.6208 1997 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2850.6208 (pause 0.73) 2851.3497 1998 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2851.3497 Mm I just hit a point. Maybe that's why it's hard for some people to understand diversity, cause they have no 2857.8650 1999 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2857.8650 (pause 0.66) 2858.5268 2000 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2858.5268 diversity even within- amongst themselves. There's no like, 2862.0062 2001 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2862.0062 (pause 1.09) 2863.0983 2002 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2863.0983 s- 2863.3057 2003 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2863.3057 (pause 0.50) 2863.8018 2004 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2863.8018 separation. They're all the same. [] 2866.1262 2005 ROC_int_01 2865.9280 [Well], yeah or their culture is the default. 2868.4167 2006 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2868.5245 Yeah. (breathy) There you go. 2870.3784 2007 ROC_int_01 2870.5404 You know, like, it's just the way things are 2873.2024 2008 ROC_int_01 2873.2024 (pause 0.10) 2873.2983 2009 ROC_int_01 2873.2983 considered to be normal [/or/] 2875.1296 2010 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2874.6350 [Yeah,] 2875.4840 2011 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2875.6266 so. 2876.0901 2012 ROC_int_01 2876.0974 way of life kind of, maybe. 2877.5977 2013 ROC_int_01 2877.5977 (pause 0.35) 2877.9481 2014 ROC_int_01 2877.9481 [Yeah.] 2878.2641 2015 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2878.0697 [Yeah.] 2878.4796 2016 ROC_int_01 2879.0523 Yeah. 2879.4606 2017 ROC_int_01 2879.4606 (pause 0.79) 2880.2474 2018 ROC_int_01 2880.2474 Uh, you brought up- uh, know, um, we were talking right before the interview sort of about this, talking white versus talking black. 2887.3527 2019 ROC_int_01 2887.3527 (pause 0.39) 2887.7474 2020 ROC_int_01 2887.7474 When you get comme- comments about, uh, 2890.2490 2021 ROC_int_01 2890.2490 (pause 0.26) 2890.5044 2022 ROC_int_01 2890.5044 you sound white [maybe,] 2892.0403 2023 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2891.6126 [Mm-hm.] 2892.1829 2024 ROC_int_01 2892.4486 who do you get them from? 2893.7377 2025 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2894.3015 Black people, 2895.2024 2026 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2895.2024 (pause 0.48) 2895.6852 2027 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2895.6852 and it pisses me off cause I'm like, what do you mean? Am I supposed to sound smart talking stupid? 2901.3352 2028 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2901.3352 (pause 0.27) 2901.6074 2029 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2901.6074 Like, 2902.1162 2030 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2902.1162 (pause 0.73) 2902.8446 2031 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2902.8446 if I'm at home and comfortable, okay, it's one thing for me to break everything down, but if I'm tryna convey an idea or get you to understand my point, 2909.7163 2032 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2909.7163 (pause 0.43) 2910.1440 2033 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2910.1440 if I don't communicate clearly, how will you know what the hell I'm talking about? You know what I mean, 2914.9418 2034 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2914.9418 (pause 0.57) 2915.5121 2035 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2915.5121 and I don't get- 2916.3093 2036 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2916.3093 (pause 0.94) 2917.2516 2037 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2917.2516 I don't- 2917.6826 2038 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2917.6826 (pause 0.56) 2918.2464 2039 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2918.2464 I do know where it came from. I know the history of our people, and I know it came from 2923.1842 2040 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2923.1842 (pause 0.92) 2924.1006 2041 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2924.1006 us constantly being told we need to dumb ourselves down to get by. 2928.3903 2042 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2928.3903 (pause 0.48) 2928.8731 2043 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2928.8731 Unfortunately, so many people have missed that, and 2931.9380 2044 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2931.9380 (pause 0.64) 2932.5784 2045 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2932.5784 I actually was just talking to a patient about this today. 2935.0741 2046 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2935.0741 (pause 0.48) 2935.5562 2047 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2935.5562 Because my parents and my grandparents are like, direct- 2938.7312 2048 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2938.7312 (pause 0.10) 2938.8359 2049 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2938.8359 you know, was 2939.4694 2050 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2939.4694 (pause 0.40) 2939.8733 2051 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2939.8733 /m-/ in the heat 2940.8552 2052 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2940.8552 (pause 0.16) 2941.0172 2053 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2941.0172 of the fire, you know, Civil Rights Movement, 2943.3691 2054 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2943.3691 (pause 0.52) 2943.8876 2055 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2943.8876 took trips down south and had to pack lunches for two days cause they couldn't pull over to eat, or 2948.1351 2056 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2948.1351 (pause 0.32) 2948.4585 2057 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2948.4585 even having to stop on the side of the road and pee because, bring toilet paper, we can't stop anywhere. 2953.6782 2058 ROC_int_01 2953.9342 Mm. 2954.1189 2059 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2954.1226 You know, having those stories like, fresh in my mind from people that I know and see every day, 2959.6426 2060 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2959.6426 (pause 1.30) 2960.9386 2061 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2960.9386 it- I grew up with a different perspective I guess. So my grandma always inputted into me, you know, knowledge is power, read, 2967.4727 2062 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2967.4727 (pause 0.14) 2967.6098 2063 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2967.6098 grow, you know, don't be ignorant, and ignorant doesn't mean 2970.9814 2064 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2970.9814 (pause 0.99) 2971.9681 2065 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2971.9681 not 2972.4451 2066 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2972.4451 (pause 0.37) 2972.8162 2067 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2972.8162 talking proper. Ignorant means, you know, you don't strive for more, you don't wanna learn anything, you s- you're content being where you are, 2981.2121 2068 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2981.2121 (pause 0.78) 2981.9963 2069 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2981.9963 which a lot of people- 2983.0397 2070 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2983.0397 (pause 1.04) 2984.0766 2071 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2984.0766 Vocab and just being able to communicate 2987.0460 2072 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2987.0460 (pause 0.23) 2987.2729 2073 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2987.2729 overall, 2988.2580 2074 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2988.2580 (pause 1.33) 2989.5852 2075 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2989.5852 it's- it's like a breakdown, I don't know. I- it's sad. 2992.8257 2076 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2992.8257 (pause 0.75) 2993.5710 2077 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2993.5710 I don't- I don't know- 2995.1315 2078 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2995.1315 (pause 1.29) 2996.4212 2079 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 2996.4212 I can't like, mark a specific group, but I just feel like maybe 3000.5862 2080 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3000.5862 (pause 0.20) 3000.7903 2081 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3000.7903 the ninety-ish babies 3002.8879 2082 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3002.8879 (pause 0.12) 3003.0126 2083 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3003.0126 kind of have lost their 3004.7787 2084 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3004.7787 (pause 0.60) 3005.3759 2085 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3005.3759 sense of pride, you know, in education and 3008.5256 2086 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3008.5256 (pause 0.47) 3008.9923 2087 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3008.9923 learning how to speak. 3009.7751 2088 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3009.7751 (pause 0.32) 3010.0926 2089 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3010.0926 Even dressing, um, 3011.3759 2090 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3011.3759 (pause 0.74) 3012.1147 2091 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3012.1147 you know, back in the day, 3013.7220 2092 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3013.7220 (pause 0.55) 3014.2729 2093 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3014.2729 you only had two pair of pants, 3015.8024 2094 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3015.8024 (pause 0.30) 3016.1056 2095 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3016.1056 those two pair of pants better be polished and clean every day, even if those were the only two pair of pants you had. 3021.3033 2096 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3021.3033 (pause 0.47) 3021.7751 2097 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3021.7751 Nowadays it's like, 3022.9889 2098 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3022.9889 (pause 1.26) 3024.2508 2099 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3024.2508 nobody cares, people walk around with bonnets on their head, and 3027.5367 2100 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3027.5367 (pause 1.12) 3028.6565 2101 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3028.6565 there's no sense of pride in anything. They're just so used to being, you know, 3033.4654 2102 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3033.4654 (pause 0.46) 3033.9241 2103 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3033.9241 one way. 3034.8055 2104 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3034.8055 (pause 0.52) 3035.3305 2105 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3035.3305 So, even with the language now. 3037.5405 2106 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3037.5405 (pause 0.29) 3037.8322 2107 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3037.8322 But it frustrates me again cause I try to make the point of, 3040.7926 2108 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3040.7926 (pause 0.39) 3041.1814 2109 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3041.1814 well, who said talking proper equates to being a white girl? 3044.8432 2110 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3044.8432 (pause 0.17) 3045.0182 2111 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3045.0182 Like, 3045.4654 2112 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3045.4654 (pause 0.62) 3046.0862 2113 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3046.0862 but again, that idea of 3047.9397 2114 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3047.9397 (pause 0.99) 3048.9313 2115 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3048.9313 back in the day, most people didn't have educations past the tenth grade 3052.4556 2116 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3052.4556 (pause 0.76) 3053.2138 2117 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3053.2138 if you were black. 3054.3610 2118 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3054.3610 (pause 0.19) 3054.5489 2119 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3054.5489 If you were white obviously you were going on and graduating, going to college, so you did have a bit more of- of a built up vocab, and you did have proper, 3062.8367 2120 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3062.8367 (pause 0.54) 3063.3811 2121 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3063.3811 I guess, 3064.0357 2122 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3064.0357 (pause 0.10) 3064.1338 2123 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3064.1338 English. 3064.8014 2124 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3064.8014 (pause 1.30) 3066.1034 2125 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3066.1034 Made a difference, but that don't mean 3068.1507 2126 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3068.1507 (pause 0.96) 3069.1131 2127 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3069.1131 you can't, you know, 3070.2473 2128 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3070.2473 (pause 0.35) 3070.5972 2129 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3070.5972 be smart 3071.2576 2130 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3071.2576 (pause 0.66) 3071.9154 2131 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3071.9154 and 3072.2427 2132 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3072.2427 (pause 0.13) 3072.3723 2133 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3072.3723 not talk proper cause 3073.7974 2134 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3073.7974 (pause 0.19) 3073.9828 2135 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3073.9828 trust me I'm- 3074.8645 2136 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3074.8645 (pause 0.13) 3074.9942 2137 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3074.9942 3075.9311 2138 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3075.9311 (pause 0.36) 3076.2941 2139 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3076.2941 I- I, uh, 3077.6583 2140 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3077.6583 (pause 0.51) 3078.1729 2141 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3078.1729 I, uh, have to concentrate to talk sometimes. 3082.1418 2142 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3082.1418 (pause 0.27) 3082.4107 2143 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3082.4107 [Not-] 3082.8320 2144 ROC_int_01 3082.5501 [/unintelligible/] 3083.6583 2145 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3083.1897 [] 3083.5332 2146 ROC_int_01 3083.8232 You turn it on and off, [right?] 3085.5951 2147 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3085.2257 [Yeah, yeah.] 3086.6296 2148 ROC_int_01 3086.1000 [Like], 3086.3930 2149 ROC_int_01 3086.6341 and 3087.2168 2150 ROC_int_01 3087.2168 (pause 0.21) 3087.4242 2151 ROC_int_01 3087.4242 some people, I guess may turn it on and off more than [others.] 3091.5357 2152 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3091.1889 [Mm-hm] 3092.1625 2153 ROC_int_01 3091.9699 [Um], 3092.3312 2154 ROC_int_01 3092.9755 uh, but whether or not, you know, you're speaking what I- what I guess I- we would call African American English, 3098.4959 2155 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3098.5437 [Mm-hm.] 3099.3069 2156 ROC_int_01 3099.0817 [um], or not like, you know, you're all capable of- 3102.2539 2157 ROC_int_01 3102.7108 um, 3103.1936 2158 ROC_int_01 3103.1936 (pause 1.25) 3104.4412 2159 ROC_int_01 3104.4412 of complex thought. 3105.7108 2160 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3105.8080 [Right.] 3106.6751 2161 ROC_int_01 3106.4762 [Yeah.] 3106.7095 2162 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3106.7423 Right. 3107.3407 2163 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3107.3407 (pause 0.49) 3107.8352 2164 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3107.8352 And sometimes simple is best. Sometimes if you say it dumbed down, 3111.6680 2165 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3111.6680 (pause 0.40) 3112.0638 2166 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3112.0638 more people will understand you, you know what I mean. It doesn't necessarily have to be a slew of words 3116.9297 2167 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3116.9297 (pause 0.18) 3117.1111 2168 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3117.1111 for somebody to get that you're smart. 3118.9063 2169 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3118.9063 (pause 0.31) 3119.2166 2170 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3119.2166 I just feel like if you can connect with somebody and communicate, 3122.0691 2171 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3122.0691 (pause 0.78) 3122.8454 2172 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3122.8454 no matter how you say it, as long as it's effective communication. Effective communication doesn't mean use a huge 3129.2926 2173 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3129.2926 (pause 0.65) 3129.9472 2174 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3129.9472 vocab, 3130.8415 2175 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3130.8415 (pause 0.37) 3131.2110 2176 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3131.2110 you know, in a sentence. 3132.4747 2177 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3132.4747 (pause 0.64) 3133.1099 2178 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3133.1099 It just needs to be 3134.2894 2179 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3134.2894 (pause 0.41) 3134.6963 2180 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3134.6963 point clear, and 3135.9083 2181 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3135.9083 (pause 0.73) 3136.6406 2182 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3136.6406 everybody understands, so. 3138.0600 2183 ROC_int_01 3138.3691 Yeah. 3138.6964 2184 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3138.5185 [] 3138.6004 2185 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3139.2482 That mighta been because I took 3140.6562 2186 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3140.6562 (pause 0.20) 3140.8538 2187 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3140.8538 IPC classes, interpersonal communication classes, so 3144.8024 2188 ROC_int_01 3145.1144 Mm-hm. 3145.4676 2189 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3145.4729 that helped too. 3146.1935 2190 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3146.1935 (pause 0.09) 3146.2794 2191 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3146.2794 [] 3147.3014 2192 ROC_int_01 3147.0389 [Yeah.] 3147.4375 2193 ROC_int_01 3147.6571 [Yeah.] 3148.0363 2194 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3147.9034 [] 3148.2501 2195 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3149.0019 [Yeah.] 3149.5075 2196 ROC_int_01 3149.3940 [Yeah.] 3149.7829 2197 ROC_int_01 3150.0324 Okay, well, um, 3151.5710 2198 ROC_int_01 3151.5710 (pause 0.14) 3151.7079 2199 ROC_int_01 3151.7079 3151.7891 2200 ROC_int_01 3151.7891 (pause 0.22) 3152.0141 2201 ROC_int_01 3152.0141 those are all the questions that I have, but if you have any last thoughts, um, 3156.2168 2202 ROC_int_01 3156.2168 (pause 0.18) 3156.3982 2203 ROC_int_01 3156.3982 that you'd like to say about Rochester, or- 3158.9284 2204 ROC_int_01 3158.9284 (pause 0.40) 3159.3302 2205 ROC_int_01 3159.3302 or anything we talked about, 3160.9958 2206 ROC_int_01 3160.9958 (pause 0.11) 3161.1053 2207 ROC_int_01 3161.1053 you know. 3161.4844 2208 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3161.7890 No, not that I can think of. I think I talked your ear off enough. [] 3165.8292 2209 ROC_int_01 3165.0353 [Nah, you did] good. [It's been], you know, [really fascinating] and interesting, so thank you. I [always ask at] the end, you know, are you, um, comfortable with me still using this interview? 3174.6449 2210 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3166.4093 [] 3166.8986 2211 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3166.8986 (pause 0.56) 3167.4621 2212 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3167.4621 [Yeah.] 3168.2009 2213 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3168.2009 (pause 2.01) 3170.2061 2214 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3170.2061 [Good.] 3170.7959 2215 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3174.8548 [Yeah.] 3175.6584 2216 ROC_int_01 3175.3895 [Okay], 3175.8075 2217 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3175.7816 [I hope I] didn't sound crazy. No. [] 3178.5247 2218 ROC_int_01 3175.8845 [cool.] 3176.1394 2219 ROC_int_01 3176.1394 (pause 1.06) 3177.2025 2220 ROC_int_01 3177.2025 [] 3178.3367 2221 ROC_int_01 3178.8351 You [don't sound crazy.] 3180.0000 2222 ROC_se0_ag1_f_01 3179.0684 [ Good, good. ] 3181.3409 2223 ROC_int_01 3180.0974 [] 3181.1606