Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_int_01 1.0481 Alright, so, yeah, before I start asking questions, [um,] 5.8647 2 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 5.0627 [] 5.4653 3 ROC_int_01 6.1405 do you consent to the interview? 7.6791 4 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 7.8160 Yes, I do. 8.3186 5 ROC_int_01 8.4165 Okay cool, so like I said it's- 10.5455 6 ROC_int_01 10.5455 (pause 0.39) 10.9325 7 ROC_int_01 10.9325 it seems more formal than it actually is. I just wanna know about 14.8681 8 ROC_int_01 14.8681 (pause 0.11) 14.9814 9 ROC_int_01 14.9814 what you perceive Rochester to be, what it was like to grow up here, where you went to school, 19.7194 10 ROC_int_01 19.7194 (pause 0.53) 20.2543 11 ROC_int_01 20.2543 what you wanna do next, just those sorts of questions. So they're open ended. You can take 'em in different, 25.1837 12 ROC_int_01 25.1837 (pause 0.24) 25.4216 13 ROC_int_01 25.4216 uh, directions. 26.6216 14 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 26.7195 Mm. 27.0133 15 ROC_int_01 26.9760 There are no like, right or wrong answers, [it's just], you know, your perspective 30.6689 16 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 29.0323 [Yeah.] 29.3447 17 ROC_int_01 30.9282 about the city. 31.6295 18 ROC_int_01 31.6295 (pause 0.30) 31.9260 19 ROC_int_01 31.9260 32.0309 20 ROC_int_01 32.0309 (pause 0.12) 32.1467 21 ROC_int_01 32.1467 Um, so 32.9487 22 ROC_int_01 32.9487 (pause 0.35) 33.2938 23 ROC_int_01 33.2938 I usually begin, um, asking 35.5541 24 ROC_int_01 35.5541 (pause 0.75) 36.3049 25 ROC_int_01 36.3049 whe- in what part of Rochester did you grow up? 38.6550 26 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 39.4015 Um, 40.1937 27 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 40.1937 (pause 0.77) 40.9666 28 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 40.9666 well, I mean, recently I just realized that I've lived all over Rochester. 44.2959 29 ROC_int_01 44.4172 [Really?] 45.1586 30 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 44.6783 [Um,] 45.1632 31 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 45.3140 but I can say, my early part of Rochester 47.9427 32 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 47.9427 (pause 0.21) 48.1572 33 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 48.1572 was over by the- um, 50.7497 34 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 50.7497 (pause 0.88) 51.6252 35 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 51.6252 the transit station, where all the buses usually go for like the night. 54.3950 36 ROC_int_01 54.8986 [Ah.] 55.3187 37 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 55.0266 [Uh,] grew up in like, the projects over there 57.5518 38 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 57.7465 off of /RD-ADDRESS-4/. 59.0707 39 ROC_int_01 59.7189 [Oh.] 59.8401 40 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 59.7235 [And], um, 60.6468 41 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 61.7602 I mean, 62.4560 42 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 62.4560 (pause 0.72) 63.1787 43 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 63.1787 growing up, I mean, it just seems like 64.9273 44 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 64.9273 (pause 0.33) 65.2619 45 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 65.2619 it's- 65.5557 46 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 65.5557 (pause 0.34) 65.8961 47 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 65.8961 you know, that's just where we live. 67.4488 48 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 67.4488 (pause 0.36) 67.8078 49 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 67.8078 It's not until like, you know, you grow older and you realize, oh, 70.8993 50 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 70.8993 (pause 0.33) 71.2293 51 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 71.2293 we were in like, subsidized housing. 73.1550 52 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 73.1550 (pause 0.41) 73.5607 53 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 73.5607 Oh, 74.1203 54 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 74.1203 (pause 0.28) 74.4047 55 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 74.4047 it was a lot of drug activity going on. 76.5683 56 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 76.5683 (pause 0.52) 77.0847 57 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 77.0847 Oh, 77.5930 58 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 77.5930 (pause 0.51) 78.1059 59 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 78.1059 so and so that I used to slap up at the corner store, 80.9456 60 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 80.9456 (pause 0.80) 81.7429 61 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 81.7429 was actually like, 82.7548 62 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 82.7548 (pause 0.16) 82.9122 63 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 82.9122 the drug dealer on the block. 84.3250 64 ROC_int_01 84.5116 [Mm-hm.] 85.7799 65 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 84.6468 [Um], (laughing) 85.3602 66 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 85.3602 (pause 0.40) 85.7612 67 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 85.7612 I mean, because like, at the end, like they- 87.9714 68 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 88.3293 they were always respectable. Cause like, you know, this- this is their neighborhood. Their family lives next door, like. 93.8129 69 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 93.8129 (pause 0.68) 94.4925 70 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 94.4925 So, um, 95.4111 71 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 95.4111 (pause 1.08) 96.4929 72 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 96.4929 gro- uh, growing up over there was just kind of really- 99.1274 73 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 99.1274 (pause 0.58) 99.7103 74 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 99.7103 it was childhood. Like, you go outside, you play with all the other kids in the projects. 103.8358 75 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 103.8358 (pause 1.08) 104.9130 76 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 104.9130 Learn how to double dutch, and play jacks, 107.8867 77 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 107.8867 (pause 0.20) 108.0826 78 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 108.0826 hide and seek, tag. 109.8172 79 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 109.8172 (pause 0.22) 110.0363 80 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 110.0363 You know, you have your little drama that little kids have. 112.7968 81 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 112.7968 (pause 0.42) 113.2153 82 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 113.2153 I don't like you. 114.0732 83 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 114.0732 (pause 0.28) 114.3484 84 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 114.3484 I don't like you either. 115.3975 85 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 115.3975 (pause 0.48) 115.8778 86 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 115.8778 Come back the next day and it's all good. 117.7849 87 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 117.7849 (pause 0.39) 118.1719 88 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 118.1719 Um, (laughing) 118.7548 89 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 118.7548 (pause 0.98) 119.7329 90 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 119.7329 I guess like, what I notice also though is like, 122.6394 91 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 122.6394 (pause 0.19) 122.8337 92 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 122.8337 my household was different than everyone else's. 125.3645 93 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 125.3645 (pause 0.31) 125.6722 94 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 125.6722 I mean, 126.3064 95 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 126.3064 (pause 0.23) 126.5349 96 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 126.5349 pretty much nobody had a father in a household, but in the fact of, 130.2559 97 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 130.2559 (pause 0.94) 131.1966 98 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 131.1966 my mom always kept me, well kept, like, 133.9337 99 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 133.9337 (pause 1.24) 135.1741 100 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 135.1741 (pause 0.009) 135.1834 101 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 135.1834 had nice, 136.0884 102 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 136.0884 (pause 0.28) 136.3713 103 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 136.3713 you know, clothes. 137.2666 104 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 137.2666 (pause 0.20) 137.4624 105 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 137.4624 I had stuff you know I'd go out and play in, but like 139.7612 106 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 139.7612 (pause 0.46) 140.2228 107 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 140.2228 I knew what I was eating at night. Like, never had to worry about meals. 143.6816 108 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 143.6816 (pause 0.33) 144.0080 109 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 144.0080 And once I started realizing, that that was different for the other kids, 147.5751 110 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 147.5751 (pause 0.61) 148.1813 111 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 148.1813 that kind of like, 149.6258 112 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 149.6258 (pause 0.34) 149.9660 113 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 149.9660 shedded a light 151.0105 114 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 151.0105 (pause 0.41) 151.4162 115 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 151.4162 in seeing seeing um, 152.7684 116 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 152.7684 (pause 0.21) 152.9829 117 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 152.9829 really like the age difference. Starting to notice the age difference between 156.5302 118 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 156.5302 (pause 0.38) 156.9126 119 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 156.9126 my mom and the other moms. 158.8850 120 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 158.8850 (pause 0.53) 159.4109 121 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 159.4109 My mom 160.0833 122 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 160.0833 (pause 0.61) 160.6977 123 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 160.6977 I guess you can say, 161.7095 124 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 161.7095 (pause 0.32) 162.0266 125 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 162.0266 to me, she wasn't that much older. Like, my mom had me when she was twenty-nine. I feel like that's around like, 166.5543 126 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 166.5543 (pause 0.26) 166.8096 127 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 166.8096 the ideal time to really have kids. 168.6328 128 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 168.6328 (pause 0.53) 169.1597 129 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 169.1597 But um, 169.9337 130 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 169.9337 (pause 0.33) 170.2648 131 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 170.2648 realizing that, 171.3419 132 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 171.3419 (pause 1.16) 172.5018 133 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 172.5018 the other parents were like, 174.0504 134 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 174.0504 (pause 0.78) 174.8286 135 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 174.8286 in their 175.1410 136 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 175.1410 (pause 0.53) 175.6680 137 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 175.6680 twenties, early twenties, 177.7663 138 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 177.7663 (pause 0.42) 178.1859 139 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 178.1859 some teens. 179.2945 140 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 179.2945 (pause 0.41) 179.7095 141 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 179.7095 Um, some having 181.3276 142 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 181.3276 (pause 0.64) 181.9664 143 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 181.9664 teenage daughters already, and having 184.2652 144 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 184.2652 (pause 0.17) 184.4377 145 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 184.4377 kids, and like the daughters having to take care of the kids. 187.3396 146 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 187.3396 (pause 0.62) 187.9571 147 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 187.9571 Um, 188.3674 148 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 188.3674 (pause 0.55) 188.9223 149 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 188.9223 so it's th- I can- I started noticing those type of differences. Not really, 193.5001 150 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 193.5001 (pause 1.03) 194.5259 151 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 194.5259 judging or anything. It's just like, 195.9947 152 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 195.9947 (pause 0.11) 196.1067 153 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 196.1067 oh, 196.4657 154 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 196.4657 (pause 0.50) 196.9635 155 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 196.9635 okay, Mommy's older than that person. 198.8846 156 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 198.8846 (pause 0.27) 199.1550 157 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 199.1550 Not knowing 199.8451 158 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 199.8451 (pause 0.13) 199.9710 159 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 199.9710 that's probably why they're in the situations that they're in. 203.3412 160 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 203.3412 (pause 1.14) 204.4789 161 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 204.4789 Um, 204.8846 162 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 204.8846 (pause 0.23) 205.1131 163 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 205.1131 after that, what ended up happening was, um, 208.4191 164 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 208.4191 (pause 0.51) 208.9262 165 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 208.9262 my mom ended up getting locked up for two and a half years. 211.3882 166 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 211.3882 (pause 0.44) 211.8265 167 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 211.8265 So after that, I ended up moving with my aunt. 214.5543 168 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 214.5543 (pause 0.63) 215.1873 169 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 215.1873 My aunt owned a house over off of /RD-ADDRESS-6/. 219.1274 170 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 219.1274 (pause 0.88) 220.0041 171 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 220.0041 By like Pudgie's 221.0572 172 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 221.0572 (pause 0.20) 221.2526 173 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 221.2526 and, um, 222.0499 174 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 222.0499 (pause 1.10) 223.1457 175 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 223.1457 it was literally like, if you cross the street you're in /RD-ADDRESS-4/ 226.3445 176 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 226.3445 (pause 0.45) 226.7968 177 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 226.7968 and then like, you come back across the street, you're in /RD-ADDRESS-3/ technically. 229.7985 178 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 229.7985 (pause 0.44) 230.2415 179 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 230.2415 So, um, 231.0668 180 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 231.0668 (pause 0.64) 231.7103 181 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 231.7103 that neighborhood- that neighborhood gave me more of like, uh, 234.7447 182 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 234.7447 (pause 0.59) 235.3322 183 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 235.3322 the freedom to like, explore. 236.8710 184 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 236.8710 (pause 0.19) 237.0575 185 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 237.0575 It was like, okay, it's okay for the kids to go and ride their bikes, as long as they're in- 241.0991 186 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 241.0991 (pause 0.56) 241.6633 187 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 241.6633 It's okay to go outside, and play in the yard. 243.8642 188 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 243.8642 (pause 0.55) 244.4113 189 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 244.4113 Um, 244.9336 190 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 244.9336 (pause 2.55) 247.4795 191 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 247.4795 I guess, 248.0997 192 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 248.0997 (pause 0.25) 248.3515 193 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 248.3515 really my only issue there was like, the actual living situation that I went through. 252.9246 194 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 252.9246 (pause 0.21) 253.1345 195 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 253.1345 Um, within my family, 254.9064 196 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 254.9064 (pause 0.53) 255.4333 197 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 255.4333 I'm the- I'm the youngest 256.9755 198 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 256.9755 (pause 1.32) 258.2951 199 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 258.2951 grandchild, and also like 260.0950 200 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 260.0950 (pause 0.48) 260.5706 201 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 260.5706 the youngest 261.2607 202 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 261.2607 (pause 0.27) 261.5312 203 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 261.5312 like that my mom had. 262.5699 204 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 262.5699 (pause 0.57) 263.1387 205 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 263.1387 Um, 263.5584 206 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 263.5584 (pause 0.74) 264.2998 207 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 264.2998 but a lot of- 264.9713 208 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 264.9713 (pause 0.26) 265.2277 209 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 265.2277 a lot of the time, 266.3608 210 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 266.3608 (pause 1.73) 268.0896 211 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 268.0896 my other cousins were like, jealous of me. 270.5050 212 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 270.5050 (pause 0.17) 270.6728 213 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 270.6728 Based off of, 271.6520 214 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 271.6520 (pause 0.59) 272.2442 215 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 272.2442 basically I'm a only child because it's a fourteen year gap between my brother, 276.1413 216 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 276.1413 (pause 0.48) 276.6169 217 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 276.6169 and me. 277.0738 218 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 277.0738 (pause 0.79) 277.8665 219 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 277.8665 Um, also my mom had my brother when she was fifteen. 281.0874 220 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 281.0874 (pause 0.51) 281.6004 221 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 281.6004 So instead of allowing my mom to be a mom, 283.9411 222 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 283.9411 (pause 0.93) 284.8691 223 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 284.8691 everybody else in the family, felt like 286.6305 224 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 286.6305 (pause 0.23) 286.8636 225 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 286.8636 they wanted to raise him. 287.8568 226 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 287.8568 (pause 0.63) 288.4910 227 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 288.4910 Um, 289.0132 228 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 289.0132 (pause 0.30) 289.3163 229 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 289.3163 but when my mom had me, she was like, no, 291.3493 230 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 291.3493 (pause 0.40) 291.7492 231 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 291.7492 I'm gonna raise him. 292.5559 232 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 292.5559 (pause 0.88) 293.4325 233 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 293.4325 And me and my brother, turned out completely different. 295.8012 234 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 295.8012 (pause 0.52) 296.3188 235 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 296.3188 Uh, so 297.3447 236 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 297.3447 (pause 1.59) 298.9382 237 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 298.9382 it's a lot of- it was- it's just a lot of weird things that- that went on that like now I look back, and I'm like 304.5253 238 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 304.5253 (pause 0.10) 304.6279 239 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 304.6279 oh, okay, 305.3740 240 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 305.3740 (pause 0.56) 305.9335 241 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 305.9335 that's what that was, that's why this is. 308.0120 242 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 308.0120 (pause 0.37) 308.3851 243 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 308.3851 But growing up, it was really just like, 310.4228 244 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 310.4228 (pause 1.38) 311.7983 245 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 311.7983 (pause 0.009) 311.8076 246 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 311.8076 I don't know. Like I remember just being that kid that's just like, hey, 315.1871 247 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 315.1871 (pause 0.25) 315.4389 248 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 315.4389 I wanna be friends with everybody, 317.1129 249 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 317.1129 (pause 0.29) 317.4066 250 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 317.4066 and- and doing that, and really like 319.8281 251 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 319.8281 (pause 0.15) 319.9794 252 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 319.9794 understanding like 321.1358 253 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 321.1358 (pause 0.53) 321.6674 254 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 321.6674 I don't understand why this person is being mean to me right now, but 324.8381 255 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 324.8381 (pause 0.49) 325.3313 256 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 325.3313 I don't like this feeling, so I kind of have to 327.5042 257 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 327.5042 (pause 1.00) 328.5067 258 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 328.5067 you know, protect myself. 329.6980 259 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 329.6980 (pause 0.14) 329.8356 260 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 329.8356 And that's when I learned a lot, when I was living with my aunt. 332.9400 261 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 332.9400 (pause 0.54) 333.4808 262 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 333.4808 Definitely put me in a space in where, 335.8216 263 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 335.8216 (pause 0.40) 336.2180 264 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 336.2180 I had to learn to fend for myself. I had to- 338.6135 265 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 338.6135 (pause 0.54) 339.1498 266 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 339.1498 And again, 339.7353 267 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 339.7353 (pause 0.21) 339.9472 268 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 339.9472 it's not that 340.8611 269 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 340.8611 (pause 1.71) 342.5712 270 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 342.5712 I was- 343.4105 271 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 343.4105 (pause 0.86) 344.2680 272 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 344.2680 /I mean, I-/ it- it was completely different from my mom's place. Like, 347.2885 273 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 347.2885 (pause 0.87) 348.1574 274 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 348.1574 I never had to ask for food at my mom's place. Like 350.2172 275 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 350.2172 (pause 0.14) 350.3618 276 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 350.3618 I go, I get what I want. Like, 351.9565 277 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 351.9565 (pause 0.45) 352.4026 278 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 352.4026 it's mine, like (laughing) 353.4145 279 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 353.4145 (pause 0.45) 353.8683 280 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 353.8683 um, there I would have to ask if I want a snack, if I want this. 357.3829 281 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 357.3829 (pause 0.51) 357.8912 282 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 357.8912 Oh, you can only have one glass of water. You can only- like, 360.7915 283 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 360.7915 (pause 0.50) 361.2939 284 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 361.2939 you can only do this. Now it's time to eat. Sit down and eat all of this. Oh, now it's time to do homework. 366.3066 285 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 366.3066 (pause 0.81) 367.1142 286 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 367.1142 Oh, you can't watch TV even though you finished your homework, cause J.R. didn't finish his homework, and he's gonna be distra- Like, 372.8251 287 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 372.8251 (pause 0.57) 373.3986 288 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 373.3986 it was just a lot of different rules, and a lot of different living situations that I didn't have to live with- like, never had to deal with. 379.4732 289 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 379.4732 (pause 0.45) 379.9255 290 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 379.9255 So it was definitely a big, 381.2882 291 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 381.2882 (pause 0.56) 381.8502 292 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 381.8502 adjustment for me. 383.0019 293 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 383.0019 (pause 0.32) 383.3190 294 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 383.3190 And then on top of that, 384.6040 295 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 384.6040 (pause 0.28) 384.8833 296 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 384.8833 um, 385.3660 297 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 385.3660 (pause 1.89) 387.2545 298 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 387.2545 money that my mom 388.3724 299 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 388.3724 (pause 0.51) 388.8807 300 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 388.8807 left 389.3703 301 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 389.3703 (pause 0.27) 389.6407 302 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 389.6407 for me, to ensure that, 391.1375 303 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 391.1375 (pause 0.24) 391.3753 304 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 391.3753 you know, nobody else had to come out of pocket to take care of me, understanding that, 394.9460 305 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 394.9460 (pause 1.01) 395.9578 306 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 395.9578 that wasn't being spent on me. That was being [spent] elsewhere. 400.1484 307 ROC_int_01 398.7378 [Mm.] 398.9541 308 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 400.3771 So, 400.9366 309 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 400.9366 (pause 0.68) 401.6127 310 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 401.6127 in that time, ironically, I ended up basically living like 405.2312 311 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 405.2312 (pause 0.53) 405.7569 312 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 405.7569 the kids from the projects. 407.3783 313 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 407.3783 (pause 0.18) 407.5625 314 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 407.5625 Like, 407.8506 315 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 407.8506 (pause 0.48) 408.3262 316 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 408.3262 I would go weeks and weeks at a time without having my hair done. 411.1892 317 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 411.1892 (pause 0.49) 411.6788 318 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 411.6788 Um, 412.1484 319 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 412.1484 (pause 0.85) 413.0019 320 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 413.0019 rips in my clothes, stuff like that. And now mind you, my aunt's kids 416.8022 321 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 416.8022 (pause 0.34) 417.1379 322 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 417.1379 be fine. 417.6555 323 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 417.6555 (pause 0.09) 417.7476 324 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 417.7476 Wearing Jordans, doing this, doing that. 419.8879 325 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 419.8879 (pause 0.55) 420.4381 326 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 420.4381 Um, 420.8438 327 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 420.8438 (pause 0.35) 421.1981 328 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 421.1981 but again, I never really- 422.2426 329 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 422.2426 (pause 0.90) 423.1472 330 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 423.1472 never really thought about it, y- you just kind of like, okay I'm a kid. 425.7433 331 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 425.7433 (pause 0.48) 426.2283 332 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 426.2283 Um, 426.6806 333 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 426.6806 (pause 1.83) 428.5084 334 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 428.5084 but I can say, 429.7068 335 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 429.7068 (pause 0.62) 430.3258 336 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 430.3258 I remember it was just one night, where like, I was crying myself to sleep and I was just like, I don't wanna feel this anymore. 435.3384 337 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 435.3384 (pause 0.22) 435.5622 338 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 435.5622 Like, just tired of it. 436.5869 339 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 436.5869 (pause 0.53) 437.1185 340 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 437.1185 And I think that is 439.1235 341 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 439.1235 (pause 0.41) 439.5385 342 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 439.5385 the night, that like, I realize like, 441.9667 343 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 441.9667 (pause 1.31) 443.2770 344 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 443.2770 one, how strong I was, and really like my resilience. Like, 446.5784 345 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 446.5784 (pause 0.61) 447.1845 346 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 447.1845 so, 447.7068 347 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 447.7068 (pause 0.09) 447.7989 348 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 447.7989 from that- that I can say, 449.9811 349 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 449.9811 (pause 0.48) 450.4567 350 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 450.4567 if I didn't have that, 451.7810 351 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 451.7810 (pause 0.75) 452.5317 352 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 452.5317 I don't really know 453.8327 353 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 453.8327 (pause 0.98) 454.8107 354 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 454.8107 where I would be right now. I would say like, 456.7831 355 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 456.7831 (pause 0.41) 457.1913 356 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 457.1913 I face adversity. 458.3032 357 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 458.3032 (pause 0.31) 458.6110 358 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 458.6110 But like, that was like 460.1484 359 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 460.1484 (pause 0.32) 460.4657 360 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 460.4657 that defining moment for me. 462.0324 361 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 462.0324 (pause 0.65) 462.6806 362 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 462.6806 Um, 463.0862 363 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 463.0862 (pause 0.37) 463.4571 364 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 463.4571 after my mom came back home, 465.0866 365 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 465.0866 (pause 0.99) 466.0740 366 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 466.0740 uh, 466.6289 367 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 466.6289 (pause 0.48) 467.1092 368 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 467.1092 I mean, I was different, 467.9065 369 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 467.9065 (pause 0.40) 468.3075 370 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 468.3075 it's two and a half years later, 469.6598 371 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 469.6598 (pause 0.36) 470.0153 372 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 470.0153 was turning twelve. 470.8395 373 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 470.8395 (pause 0.40) 471.2405 374 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 471.2405 Um, 471.6135 375 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 471.6135 (pause 2.47) 474.0837 376 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 474.0837 we moved 474.7179 377 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 474.7179 (pause 0.14) 474.8624 378 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 474.8624 over- 475.7111 379 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 475.7111 (pause 0.14) 475.8556 380 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 475.8556 was living with my grandma for a bit, so that was off of /RD-ADDRESS-2/, 478.8108 381 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 478.8108 (pause 0.18) 478.9900 382 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 478.9900 um, by Salvatore's. I love Salvatore's. (whispered) 481.5594 383 ROC_int_01 481.6251 Hm. 481.9022 384 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 482.0421 [] 482.7412 385 ROC_int_01 482.3317 [] 483.2125 386 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 483.3104 Um, 483.7767 387 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 483.7767 (pause 0.49) 484.2652 388 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 484.2652 so it was over by Salvatore's. And 486.5080 389 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 486.5080 (pause 0.55) 487.0629 390 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 487.0629 being back with my mom, 488.6576 391 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 488.6576 (pause 0.78) 489.4410 392 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 489.4410 it was a bit different, because 491.4822 393 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 491.4822 (pause 2.36) 493.8416 394 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 493.8416 she didn't really understand how much I had matured, what had exactly happened to me, and I couldn't really explain it to her. 501.1566 395 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 501.1566 (pause 0.64) 501.7954 396 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 501.7954 Um, 502.1484 397 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 502.1484 (pause 0.45) 502.6009 398 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 502.6009 and then she also was trying to like, make up for lost time. 505.8976 399 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 505.8976 (pause 0.57) 506.4711 400 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 506.4711 And I think that probably one of the realest conversations we ever had. /It was mostly/ like, Ma like, 510.3402 401 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 510.3402 (pause 0.29) 510.6339 402 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 510.6339 you just gotta stop. Like, 511.7810 403 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 511.7810 (pause 0.68) 512.4571 404 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 512.4571 I don't fault you for anything, and you can't make up for lost time. Like, 515.5661 405 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 515.5661 (pause 0.37) 515.9345 406 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 515.9345 we can move on from, where we're at now. 518.1680 407 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 518.1680 (pause 0.64) 518.8068 408 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 518.8068 And get to re-know each other. 520.1484 409 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 520.1484 (pause 0.15) 520.2978 410 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 520.2978 But like, 520.7874 411 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 520.7874 (pause 1.28) 522.0626 412 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 522.0626 basically like, 522.9510 413 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 522.9510 (pause 0.10) 523.0536 414 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 523.0536 the reason my mom ended up going to jail, was making sure that she was taking care of me in the first place. So like, 527.8412 415 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 527.8412 (pause 0.68) 528.5220 416 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 528.5220 not ever gonna fault you, 529.9395 417 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 529.9395 (pause 0.21) 530.1540 418 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 530.1540 for that. 530.9840 419 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 530.9840 (pause 0.10) 531.0855 420 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 531.0855 Cause we got, 531.5751 421 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 531.5751 (pause 0.55) 532.1253 422 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 532.1253 parents out here that's 533.0525 423 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 533.0525 (pause 0.26) 533.3136 424 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 533.3136 not willing to do that. 534.3262 425 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 534.3262 (pause 0.53) 534.8577 426 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 534.8577 And, 535.3427 427 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 535.3427 (pause 0.30) 535.6411 428 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 535.6411 my mom is a pretty much like, by any means necessary type of person. 539.0672 429 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 539.0672 (pause 1.18) 540.2422 430 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 540.2422 So, um, 541.2401 431 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 541.2401 (pause 0.94) 542.1767 432 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 542.1767 542.2596 433 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 542.2596 (pause 0.09) 542.3515 434 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 542.3515 we moved in 543.3198 435 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 543.3198 (pause 0.31) 543.6322 436 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 543.6322 with my grandma, 544.7128 437 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 544.7128 (pause 0.52) 545.2351 438 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 545.2351 and my aunt, 545.9811 439 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 545.9811 (pause 0.47) 546.4521 440 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 546.4521 into like this big house. And that's when we moved over off 549.4643 441 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 549.4643 (pause 0.28) 549.7429 442 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 549.7429 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ off of 550.9506 443 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 550.9506 (pause 0.21) 551.1651 444 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 551.1651 /RD-ADDRESS-2/. 551.6407 445 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 551.6407 (pause 0.63) 552.2749 446 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 552.2749 (pause 0.005) 552.2795 447 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 552.2795 Now this area, 553.5385 448 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 553.5385 (pause 1.13) 554.6716 449 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 554.6716 this I can say, is really like, the first time I moved away from the east side. 558.3915 450 ROC_int_01 558.8158 Mkay. 559.1864 451 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 559.3707 Um, 559.8183 452 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 559.8183 (pause 1.41) 561.2265 453 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 561.2265 I don't know, it's just, 562.1999 454 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 562.1999 (pause 0.15) 562.3538 455 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 562.3538 /RD-ADDRESS-3/ is kind of like the- 564.3402 456 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 564.3402 (pause 0.94) 565.2821 457 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 565.2821 it's like the quirky area of Rochester. Like, 567.6462 458 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 567.6462 (pause 0.29) 567.9353 459 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 567.9353 pretty much anything can happen on /RD-ADDRESS-3/. 570.2096 460 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 570.2096 (pause 0.39) 570.6013 461 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 570.6013 Um, 570.9697 462 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 570.9697 (pause 0.27) 571.2401 463 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 571.2401 but, 571.5758 464 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 571.5758 (pause 0.99) 572.5644 465 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 572.5644 the living was nice and then, uh, 574.9226 466 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 574.9226 (pause 0.24) 575.1604 467 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 575.1604 really what ended up happening was the stuff that happened over the two and a half years, came to a bubble between my aunt and my mom. 581.4356 468 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 581.4356 (pause 0.59) 582.0277 469 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 582.0277 And 582.5127 470 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 582.5127 (pause 1.01) 583.5245 471 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 583.5245 they got into it, my mom's like, alright we moving. 586.2838 472 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 586.2838 (pause 0.84) 587.1278 473 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 587.1278 But we stayed over in the /RD-ADDRESS-2/ area, moved off of /RD-ADDRESS-2/, 590.9887 474 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 590.9887 (pause 1.04) 592.0274 475 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 592.0274 which was really quiet. 593.2537 476 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 593.2537 (pause 0.55) 593.7993 477 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 593.7993 I realized that I like the /RD-ADDRESS-2/ a lot. 595.5852 478 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 595.5852 (pause 0.12) 595.7017 479 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 595.7017 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ is really a nice place. 597.6415 480 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 597.6415 (pause 0.40) 598.0460 481 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 598.0460 Um, even- even like now, [I'm just like,] 600.0557 482 ROC_int_01 599.5381 [Mm-hm] 599.8994 483 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 601.1608 yeah, let's go to /RD-ADDRESS-2/. (whispered) 602.6296 484 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 602.6296 (pause 0.13) 602.7591 485 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 602.7591 Now they got a lot of, uh, restaurants and a lot of different stuff over there. 606.0184 486 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 606.0184 (pause 0.55) 606.5686 487 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 606.5686 Um, 607.0023 488 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 607.0023 (pause 0.68) 607.6784 489 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 607.6784 but yeah, we lived on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ in the /RD-ADDRESS-2/ and then we moved on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ in the /RD-ADDRESS-2/. And in this time I was going through middle school. 614.9514 490 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 614.9514 (pause 0.37) 615.3244 491 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 615.3244 At this time, me and my mom's relationship was more stable. 618.3168 492 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 618.3168 (pause 0.26) 618.5780 493 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 618.5780 We had been together a while. 619.6924 494 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 619.6924 (pause 0.42) 620.1167 495 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 620.1167 Um, 620.6530 496 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 620.6530 (pause 0.37) 621.0260 497 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 621.0260 you know, mm, 621.9539 498 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 621.9539 (pause 0.14) 622.0926 499 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 622.0926 going through teenage things. 623.5335 500 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 623.5335 (pause 0.97) 624.4987 501 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 624.4987 Um, 624.9184 502 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 624.9184 (pause 1.17) 626.0841 503 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 626.0841 and then what ended up happening was, 629.0765 504 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 629.0765 (pause 0.55) 629.6221 505 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 629.6221 the income that we had in the house got cut tremendously. 633.0913 506 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 633.0913 (pause 0.60) 633.6870 507 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 633.6870 So we had to move from our place on /RD-ADDRESS-1/, and find something that was more feasible. 638.5923 508 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 638.5923 (pause 0.59) 639.1799 509 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 639.1799 So we ended up moving, 640.3771 510 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 640.3771 (pause 0.76) 641.1371 511 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 641.1371 to 641.7433 512 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 641.7433 (pause 0.35) 642.0930 513 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 642.0930 /RD-ADDRESS-5/. 643.1795 514 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 643.1795 (pause 0.42) 643.5991 515 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 643.5991 Which is like, 644.8255 516 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 644.8255 (pause 1.41) 646.2372 517 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 646.2372 hood central basically. (laughing) Um, 648.9510 518 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 648.9510 (pause 0.88) 649.8323 519 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 649.8323 and 650.3825 520 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 650.3825 (pause 1.24) 651.6229 521 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 651.6229 at first, I was a little like wary about it, because like, 654.7766 522 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 654.7766 (pause 2.14) 656.9141 523 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 656.9141 growing up it's like, y- you don't- 659.1511 524 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 659.1511 (pause 0.21) 659.3563 525 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 659.3563 you drive through those places. You don't go and you- you know, live in those places. 663.3431 526 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 663.3431 (pause 0.62) 663.9632 527 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 663.9632 But, 664.2745 528 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 664.2745 (pause 1.04) 665.3190 529 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 665.3190 that's pretty much been 667.1375 530 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 667.1375 (pause 0.56) 667.7017 531 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 667.7017 where 668.1913 532 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 668.1913 (pause 0.78) 668.9700 533 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 668.9700 well, my mom's been. I've moved out of the house since then. 671.4495 534 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 671.4495 (pause 0.31) 671.7573 535 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 671.7573 But my mom is literally still there, and sh- 674.1285 536 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 674.1285 (pause 0.69) 674.8217 537 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 674.8217 don't nobody bother her. It's- 676.4004 538 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 676.4004 (pause 1.55) 677.9508 539 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 677.9508 you know, stuff happens around, in the neighborhood, 680.9883 540 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 680.9883 (pause 0.22) 681.2098 541 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 681.2098 but, 681.5320 542 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 681.5320 (pause 2.32) 683.8541 543 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 683.8541 it's not bad. And- and- and that's what I started realizing. Like, 687.6194 544 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 687.6194 (pause 1.68) 689.2980 545 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 689.2980 yeah, people say a lot about 690.9487 546 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 690.9487 (pause 0.81) 691.7601 547 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 691.7601 the environment, but it's- it's- it's not bad. You get to see- 695.4158 548 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 695.4158 (pause 0.59) 696.0033 549 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 696.0033 yeah you got the same people that's doing the same thing, but then you got people who are 699.7966 550 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 699.7966 (pause 1.39) 701.1861 551 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 701.1861 doing- 701.7458 552 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 701.7458 (pause 0.12) 701.8647 553 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 701.8647 doing it. Like, 702.8741 554 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 702.8741 (pause 0.77) 703.6481 555 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 703.6481 um, I done seen like people done graduated and seen people 708.1618 556 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 708.1618 (pause 0.65) 708.8146 557 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 708.8146 go. Move on to bigger and better things. Move out of 712.0204 558 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 712.0204 (pause 0.19) 712.2069 559 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 712.2069 the state, move 713.3740 560 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 713.3740 (pause 1.56) 714.9301 561 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 714.9301 across town to a better house. Like, 717.4597 562 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 717.4597 (pause 0.72) 718.1754 563 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 718.1754 so, um, 719.0148 564 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 719.0148 (pause 0.50) 719.5184 565 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 719.5184 yeah I would say 720.7587 566 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 720.7587 (pause 1.36) 722.1202 567 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 722.1202 like, 722.6427 568 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 722.6427 (pause 0.25) 722.8945 569 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 722.8945 /RD-ADDRESS-5/, 724.3126 570 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 724.3126 (pause 0.15) 724.4642 571 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 724.4642 definitely, really- 725.8254 572 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 725.8254 (pause 2.30) 728.1238 573 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 728.1238 I don't know. It made me really appreciate 730.5853 574 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 730.5853 (pause 0.33) 730.9164 575 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 730.9164 the beauty in the ugly. 732.5304 576 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 732.5304 (pause 0.77) 733.3044 577 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 733.3044 Cause like you look at it, and it's just like, 735.5444 578 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 735.5444 (pause 0.84) 736.3841 579 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 736.3841 this could be so much better. 737.6706 580 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 737.6706 (pause 0.19) 737.8576 581 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 737.8576 It's like, run-down houses. I actually wro- ended up writing a poem, literally like, based on my street. 742.6978 582 ROC_int_01 742.7352 Mm. 743.0662 583 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 743.1175 Um, 743.5838 584 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 743.5838 (pause 0.95) 744.5349 585 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 744.5349 it's like run-down houses everywhere, and then it's like you get to know the people. 748.1486 586 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 748.1486 (pause 0.61) 748.7595 587 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 748.7595 You get to know their story. You get to see their story develop from being /there- over there/ for so long. You're just like, 753.5343 588 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 753.5343 (pause 0.67) 754.2036 589 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 754.2036 /you know/, all these people 755.2481 590 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 755.2481 (pause 0.20) 755.4486 591 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 755.4486 pretty much just like me. They trying to make it. 757.3101 592 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 757.3101 (pause 0.20) 757.5059 593 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 757.5059 Some people know how, some people don't. 759.2421 594 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 759.2421 (pause 0.58) 759.8212 595 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 759.8212 And, um, 760.5766 596 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 760.5766 (pause 0.48) 761.0522 597 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 761.0522 yeah. Right now, 762.4176 598 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 762.4176 (pause 0.52) 762.9417 599 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 762.9417 I mean, the places that I've moved, 764.5520 600 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 764.5520 (pause 1.11) 765.6602 601 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 765.6602 since I've moved out, I lived out in Canandaigua. 768.2085 602 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 768.2085 (pause 0.53) 768.7400 603 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 768.7400 Um, 769.2063 604 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 769.2063 (pause 0.56) 769.7687 605 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 769.7687 I lived out there for like six months. 771.6571 606 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 771.6571 (pause 0.96) 772.6149 607 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 772.6149 That was- 773.5102 608 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 773.5102 (pause 0.33) 773.8413 609 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 773.8413 I didn't like that. I got into a lot of trouble in Canandaigua, just because it's 778.0998 610 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 778.0998 (pause 0.09) 778.1896 611 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 778.1896 nothing there. 778.9572 612 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 778.9572 (pause 0.43) 779.3909 613 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 779.3909 Like, 779.7313 614 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 779.7313 (pause 0.42) 780.1490 615 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 780.1490 um, 780.5656 616 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 780.5656 (pause 0.97) 781.5393 617 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 781.5393 781.6821 618 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 781.6821 (pause 0.10) 781.7780 619 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 781.7780 ended up moving back. 782.6716 620 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 782.6716 (pause 0.38) 783.0540 621 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 783.0540 Moving in with my mom, 784.0565 622 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 784.0565 (pause 0.16) 784.2197 623 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 784.2197 and then I moved, 785.3536 624 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 785.3536 (pause 0.23) 785.5820 625 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 785.5820 um, 786.1649 626 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 786.1649 (pause 0.20) 786.3654 627 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 786.3654 over on, 787.9116 628 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 787.9116 (pause 1.80) 789.7068 629 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 789.7068 oh, I can't think of the name of it. (whispered) 791.4917 630 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 791.4917 (pause 1.36) 792.8486 631 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 792.8486 /RD-ADDRESS-3/ 793.5759 632 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 793.5759 (pause 0.28) 793.8510 633 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 793.8510 I moved on /RD-ADDRESS-3/, 795.1276 634 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 795.1276 (pause 0.49) 795.6136 635 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 795.6136 uh, with a few friends. 796.9992 636 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 796.9992 (pause 0.95) 797.9532 637 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 797.9532 And that was different because, 799.8750 638 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 799.8750 (pause 0.27) 800.1408 639 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 800.1408 again, 800.6483 640 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 800.6483 (pause 0.46) 801.1100 641 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 801.1100 pretty much I've been on the east side. 802.6534 642 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 802.6534 (pause 0.57) 803.2211 643 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 803.2211 And 803.6454 644 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 803.6454 (pause 0.65) 804.2982 645 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 804.2982 in Rochester it's kind of like, 805.7771 646 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 805.7771 (pause 0.37) 806.1501 647 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 806.1501 you could spot somebody from the east side, if they're on the west side, and if you're on the west side, you can spot somebody on the east side. It's a weird type of thing. 813.2366 648 ROC_int_01 813.2273 [How do you spot] 'em, what do you- 815.0505 649 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 813.6749 [So, /?/] 814.2984 650 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 815.3983 I don't know. I thi- [it's- it's-] it's kind of like- 817.6691 651 ROC_int_01 816.3682 [Yeah.] 816.8205 652 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 817.7904 I think it's really more like- 819.1060 653 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 819.1060 (pause 0.77) 819.8747 654 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 819.8747 like- like mannerisms, like if you let like the stereotypical tell you like, 823.8137 655 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 823.8137 (pause 0.99) 824.8022 656 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 824.8022 east side, 825.5063 657 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 825.5063 (pause 0.39) 825.8957 658 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 825.8957 /it's-/ 826.2205 659 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 826.2205 (pause 0.26) 826.4809 660 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 826.4809 that's like the dirty side. (whispered) 828.1099 661 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 828.1099 (pause 0.46) 828.5733 662 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 828.5733 You know, like, the west side, you know, that's where you got all the flashy stuff and the nice houses. 832.7500 663 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 832.7500 (pause 0.51) 833.2631 664 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 833.2631 I mean, 833.6781 665 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 833.6781 (pause 0.36) 834.0371 666 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 834.0371 it's kind of true. 835.3194 667 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 835.3194 (pause 0.88) 836.2007 668 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 836.2007 Like it's definitely like, if you- 838.0938 669 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 838.0938 (pause 1.34) 839.4356 670 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 839.4356 For me it's always been like, looking at the people on the corner. Like, 842.1634 671 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 842.1634 (pause 0.16) 842.3219 672 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 842.3219 if you go to the west side, 843.4830 673 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 843.4830 (pause 0.24) 843.7208 674 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 843.7208 you're liable to see a dude like, decked out in jewelry or whatever, just standing on the corner. He looks nice, he looks 849.8560 675 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 849.8560 (pause 0.21) 850.0612 676 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 850.0612 like, 850.3083 677 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 850.3083 (pause 0.28) 850.5869 678 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 850.5869 they care about their appearance. 851.8506 679 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 851.8506 (pause 0.40) 852.2469 680 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 852.2469 You're on the east side, 853.2495 681 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 853.2495 (pause 0.48) 853.7344 682 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 853.7344 dude been trapping in the same outfit for seven days. 856.1918 683 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 856.1918 (pause 0.82) 857.0113 684 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 857.0113 Don't mean he don't got no money. 858.2197 685 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 858.2197 (pause 0.39) 858.6067 686 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 858.6067 It's just 859.1282 687 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 859.1282 (pause 1.09) 860.2147 688 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 860.2147 it's kind of like what they do. I don't know, it's weird, it's very weird. 863.1950 689 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 863.1950 (pause 0.49) 863.6827 690 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 863.6827 Um, 864.1210 691 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 864.1210 (pause 0.98) 865.1049 692 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 865.1049 so moving on 866.5458 693 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 866.5458 (pause 0.21) 866.7509 694 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 866.7509 the west side for the first time, 868.7500 695 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 868.7500 (pause 1.01) 869.7573 696 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 869.7573 was a bit uneasy because I'm like, I probably stick out like a sore thumb, because 873.9213 697 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 873.9213 (pause 0.44) 874.3596 698 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 874.3596 I mean, like, I've only been on the east side. I don't even know like, 877.3194 699 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 877.3194 (pause 0.85) 878.1681 700 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 878.1681 the backstreets over [here.] 879.7262 701 ROC_int_01 879.5583 [Mm-hm.] 880.2391 702 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 880.0899 [So] I'm just like, alright, 881.1372 703 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 881.4682 go to school, go to work, 883.0676 704 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 883.0676 (pause 0.41) 883.4733 705 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 883.4733 walk to the corner store, that's about it. 885.2918 706 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 885.2918 (pause 0.58) 885.8747 707 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 885.8747 Um, 886.3177 708 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 886.3177 (pause 0.62) 886.9367 709 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 886.9367 and then it kind of just like, kind of went away. I started realizing that's really just a mentality. 890.8675 710 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 890.8675 (pause 0.50) 891.3711 711 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 891.3711 Like, it's like, 891.9213 712 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 891.9213 (pause 1.99) 893.9159 713 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 893.9159 I done been everywhere. 894.8539 714 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 894.8539 (pause 0.21) 895.0637 715 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 895.0637 So, 895.5067 716 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 895.5067 (pause 0.23) 895.7398 717 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 895.7398 you know what I mean? Like, 896.3973 718 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 896.3973 (pause 1.20) 897.6003 719 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 897.6003 what am I scared of? It's not that I'm of scared of anything. It's like, uh, it was just a little uneasy. 902.4945 720 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 902.4945 (pause 0.66) 903.1519 721 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 903.1519 Um, from there, I ended up moving into Brighton, 906.7793 722 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 906.7793 (pause 0.44) 907.2168 723 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 907.2168 for about a few months. 908.5831 724 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 908.5831 (pause 0.19) 908.7742 725 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 908.7742 Moved over across from /RD-ADDRESS-3/ and /RD-ADDRESS-3/. 912.3262 726 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 912.3262 (pause 0.78) 913.1096 727 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 913.1096 And that- 913.7204 728 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 913.7204 (pause 1.32) 915.0432 729 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 915.0432 that reminded me of Canandaigua. 917.1838 730 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 917.1838 (pause 0.76) 917.9392 731 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 917.9392 The people did not want us there. 919.6645 732 ROC_int_01 920.4385 Mm. 920.6270 733 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 920.5935 Like, 921.1900 734 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 922.0472 they would make 922.7147 735 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 922.7147 (pause 0.71) 923.4216 736 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 923.4216 absurd complaints about us. 924.9837 737 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 924.9837 (pause 0.45) 925.4360 738 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 925.4360 Oh, 925.9442 739 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 925.9442 (pause 0.24) 926.1820 740 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 926.1820 there's a weed smell coming from their apartment, 928.8947 741 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 928.8947 (pause 0.44) 929.3330 742 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 929.3330 their dogs are barking. Now mind you, 931.4546 743 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 931.4546 (pause 1.34) 932.7929 744 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 932.7929 can't possibly be a weed smell because 935.1278 745 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 935.1278 (pause 0.31) 935.4356 746 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 935.4356 my roommate's at work. 936.5360 747 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 936.5360 (pause 0.09) 936.6246 748 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 936.6246 I dropped him off there. He didn't have a car. 938.6343 749 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 938.6343 (pause 0.38) 939.0120 750 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 939.0120 And I'm currently at school, while I'm talking on the phone. 941.5428 751 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 941.5428 (pause 0.62) 942.1583 752 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 942.1583 The dogs are not there. 943.2448 753 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 943.2448 (pause 0.99) 944.2342 754 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 944.2342 So I'm like, alright, 945.5165 755 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 945.5165 (pause 0.78) 946.2999 756 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 946.2999 this is like, some like, 947.5076 757 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 947.5076 (pause 0.23) 947.7396 758 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 947.7396 profiling type junk. 949.0404 759 ROC_int_01 949.0499 Mm-hm. 949.6139 760 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 949.6279 And, um, 950.4487 761 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 950.4487 (pause 0.45) 950.8964 762 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 950.8964 in the end, it ended up getting really bad, but, uh, went in and basically was like look, y'all don't want us here. 956.2902 763 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 956.2902 (pause 0.80) 957.0876 764 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 957.0876 Don't lie to me. 957.9315 765 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 957.9315 (pause 0.28) 958.2160 766 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 958.2160 And (laughing) 958.9294 767 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 958.9294 (pause 0.25) 959.1800 768 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 959.1800 we don't wanna be here, honestly. So, uh, we agreed to like, terminate the lease. 963.0129 769 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 963.0129 (pause 0.54) 963.5492 770 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 963.5492 And, uh, we moved 965.0040 771 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 965.0040 (pause 0.12) 965.1241 772 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 965.1241 and ended up moving on /RD-ADDRESS-3/, which is in the /RD-ADDRESS-2/ again. 968.8311 773 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 968.8311 (pause 0.45) 969.2834 774 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 969.2834 And that- 969.8942 775 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 969.8942 (pause 0.50) 970.3978 776 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 970.3978 that was like- 971.4235 777 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 971.4235 (pause 0.20) 971.6193 778 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 971.6193 that- 971.8340 779 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 971.8340 (pause 0.40) 972.2385 780 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 972.2385 that was- I would probably say that was home. 973.9432 781 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 973.9432 (pause 0.27) 974.2090 782 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 974.2090 Like, 974.4701 783 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 974.4701 (pause 1.99) 976.4584 784 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 976.4584 over there it was right behind /RD-ADDRESS-5/. 978.6582 785 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 978.6582 (pause 0.24) 978.8960 786 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 978.8960 I used to wake up in the morning, 980.1037 787 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 980.1037 (pause 0.29) 980.3974 788 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 980.3974 jog around the block. 981.4932 789 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 981.4932 (pause 0.39) 981.8849 790 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 981.8849 S- I'm like, 982.4351 791 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 982.4351 (pause 0.46) 982.8949 792 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 982.8949 /I could walk-/ I wake up and jog around the block. That's [cool.] (laughing) 986.1456 793 ROC_int_01 985.4303 [] 986.2043 794 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 986.7798 Um, 987.3300 795 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 987.3300 (pause 1.13) 988.4631 796 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 988.4631 a lot of just 989.3211 797 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 989.3211 (pause 0.26) 989.5764 798 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 989.5764 friendly people, like you just walk down the street and people just, 992.0878 799 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 992.0878 (pause 0.28) 992.3722 800 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 992.3722 hey how you doing? Hey, how you doing? I don't know you. Probably won't ever see you again. 996.6469 801 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 996.6469 (pause 0.56) 997.2112 802 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 997.2112 But it was just- 998.0371 803 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 998.0371 (pause 0.10) 998.1397 804 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 998.1397 it was just different. 998.9803 805 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 998.9803 (pause 0.91) 999.8896 806 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 999.8896 I could say like, living in all these different places in Rochester, you kind of really- 1004.2855 807 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1004.2855 (pause 1.34) 1005.6263 808 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1005.6263 Rochester seems divided, 1007.2325 809 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1007.2325 (pause 0.37) 1007.5997 810 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1007.5997 or it's- seems like it's being portrayed to be divided, 1010.5373 811 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1010.5373 (pause 0.64) 1011.1761 812 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1011.1761 but really, 1011.9782 813 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1011.9782 (pause 1.32) 1013.2957 814 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1013.2957 everybody knows somebody in some type of way. 1016.2286 815 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1016.2286 (pause 0.32) 1016.5492 816 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1016.5492 Um, 1016.8896 817 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1016.8896 (pause 0.87) 1017.7616 818 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1017.7616 definitely 1018.6436 819 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1018.6436 (pause 0.12) 1018.7672 820 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1018.7672 being, um, 1019.8365 821 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1019.8365 (pause 0.33) 1020.1676 822 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1020.1676 in the arts, like community, you start realizing that 1022.9782 823 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1022.9782 (pause 0.48) 1023.4538 824 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1023.4538 really really quick [like], 1025.2164 825 ROC_int_01 1024.9730 [Mm-hm.] 1025.4859 826 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1025.7152 oh you know so and so? 1026.8249 827 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1026.8249 (pause 0.15) 1026.9742 828 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1026.9742 Yeah I know so and so. 1028.0233 829 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1028.0233 (pause 0.40) 1028.4197 830 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1028.4197 Oh okay. Or you go to a show 1029.9984 831 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1029.9984 (pause 0.79) 1030.7864 832 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1030.7864 other people pop up. 1031.8542 833 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1031.8542 (pause 0.57) 1032.4231 834 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1032.4231 Hey what's up? Hey what's up? 1034.7311 835 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1034.7311 (pause 0.68) 1035.4129 836 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1035.4129 So it's, um, 1036.1776 837 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1036.1776 (pause 0.96) 1037.1381 838 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1037.1381 mm (I don't know intonation) that's- 1038.0101 839 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1038.0101 (pause 0.78) 1038.7923 840 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1038.7923 Well, right now I'm living on /RD-ADDRESS-3/, 1040.4888 841 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1040.4888 (pause 0.15) 1040.6427 842 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1040.6427 which is a new part of Rochester that I haven't lived in. 1043.1055 843 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1043.1055 (pause 0.64) 1043.7443 844 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1043.7443 Over on like the northeast side. 1045.2959 845 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1045.2959 (pause 0.62) 1045.9207 846 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1045.9207 It's pretty quiet though. 1047.0725 847 ROC_int_01 1047.4875 [Mm-hm] 1047.8418 848 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1047.4921 [I like it.] 1048.0750 849 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1049.0915 Very homey. 1049.7956 850 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1049.7956 (pause 0.73) 1050.5265 851 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1050.5265 Yeah that's kind of 1051.3192 852 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1051.3192 (pause 0.19) 1051.5057 853 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1051.5057 all the places that I've lived in Rochester. 1053.4408 854 ROC_int_01 1053.6973 Yeah, 1054.1645 855 ROC_int_01 1054.1645 (pause 0.51) 1054.6728 856 ROC_int_01 1054.6728 yeah, so- but you would overall say you're more of a- 1057.5011 857 ROC_int_01 1057.5011 (pause 0.20) 1057.7007 858 ROC_int_01 1057.7007 let me turn this up, 1058.4592 859 ROC_int_01 1058.4592 (pause 0.30) 1058.7554 860 ROC_int_01 1058.7554 more of a city- 1059.9677 861 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1060.4490 [Definitely more of a city guy.] I don't like the- nah, the- the suburbs, or 1065.4548 862 ROC_int_01 1060.6308 [Uh, yeah] 1062.0147 863 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1066.1869 I don't even know what you call Canandaigua. You can't /unintelligible/ 1068.9986 864 ROC_int_01 1069.0208 Yeah, 1069.3417 865 ROC_int_01 1069.3417 (pause 0.55) 1069.8966 866 ROC_int_01 1069.8966 right. That's like a point beyond [suburbs in] our minds right? Yeah. 1073.8189 867 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1071.7766 [Yeah] 1072.4154 868 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1073.8376 I'm like, I need- 1075.0963 869 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1075.0963 (pause 0.20) 1075.2922 870 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1075.2922 I need people. 1076.3787 871 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1076.3787 (pause 0.33) 1076.7076 872 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1076.7076 I need like community. Definitely like community. 1079.5391 873 ROC_int_01 1080.1220 Okay, 1080.4820 874 ROC_int_01 1080.4820 (pause 0.79) 1081.2679 875 ROC_int_01 1081.2679 cool. 1081.6223 876 ROC_int_01 1081.6223 (pause 0.48) 1082.1072 877 ROC_int_01 1082.1072 Um, 1082.9662 878 ROC_int_01 1082.9662 (pause 0.43) 1083.3942 879 ROC_int_01 1083.3942 w- I wanted to talk, also, with you about y- schools you went to. So I know you went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/. [Um,] 1089.1564 880 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1088.8533 [Mm-hm] 1089.1424 881 ROC_int_01 1089.6040 And 1090.0936 882 ROC_int_01 1090.0936 (pause 0.29) 1090.3808 883 ROC_int_01 1090.3808 what made you decide to go to that particular high school? What was it? 1094.2471 884 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1094.3031 Um, 1094.7787 885 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1094.7787 (pause 0.25) 1095.0258 886 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1095.0258 honestly, my mom picked every single school that I went to. 1098.6302 887 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1098.6302 (pause 0.45) 1099.0814 888 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1099.0814 Um, 1099.4451 889 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1099.4451 (pause 0.72) 1100.1632 890 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1100.1632 so it started of with pre-K at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1102.7791 891 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1102.7791 (pause 0.82) 1103.6033 892 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1103.6033 And then I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/, 1105.7995 893 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1105.7995 (pause 0.87) 1106.6668 894 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1106.6668 um, from K through second. 1108.9963 895 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1108.9963 (pause 0.36) 1109.3553 896 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1109.3553 After /RD-SCHOOL-4/, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/, from third until six. 1114.2522 897 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1114.2522 (pause 0.54) 1114.7931 898 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1114.7931 At /RD-SCHOOL-2/, is where 1117.1653 899 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1117.1653 (pause 1.49) 1118.6575 900 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1118.6575 I started realizing why I was different from other people. Cause like, 1121.7443 901 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1121.7443 (pause 0.53) 1122.2759 902 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1122.2759 I was in fourth grade literally like a week. And they come up to me and are like, 1125.9631 903 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1125.9631 (pause 0.60) 1126.5646 904 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1126.5646 have you ever heard about the /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 1128.6096 905 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1128.6096 (pause 0.41) 1129.0200 906 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1129.0200 And I'm like, 1130.0178 907 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1130.0178 (pause 0.23) 1130.2463 908 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1130.2463 no. 1131.2069 909 ROC_int_01 1131.2442 1131.6833 910 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1131.7206 And they're like (laughing) 1132.6065 911 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1132.6065 (pause 0.28) 1132.8910 912 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1132.8910 so Monday, you're gonna go into this new class, and you're gonna sh- I'm like, I didn't even get to start with this new class yet. 1139.5960 913 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1139.5960 (pause 0.52) 1140.1183 914 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1140.1183 And they're like, no. 1141.0674 915 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1141.0674 (pause 0.69) 1141.7575 916 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1141.7575 We're doi- we're giving you the work and you're just basically sitting there cause you're getting it done. I'm like, okay so what's the /RD-SCHOOL-3/? And they basically broke it down. It's the /RD-SCHOOL-7/. You'll learn, 1151.4599 917 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1151.4599 (pause 0.64) 1152.1033 918 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1152.1033 um, at a faster rate. And you'll learn, you know, stuff like a grade ahead of you. I'm like, 1156.2382 919 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1156.2382 (pause 0.72) 1156.9609 920 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1156.9609 okay cool. 1158.2199 921 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1158.2199 (pause 0.20) 1158.4158 922 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1158.4158 So I go, 1159.0160 923 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1159.0160 (pause 0.24) 1159.2586 924 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1159.2586 I shadow this program. Everybody's looking at me like 1162.3388 925 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1162.3388 (pause 0.46) 1162.8024 926 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1162.8024 I'm a test subject, because they've already been here. They already been with these kids. So I'm the new guy. 1167.9891 927 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1167.9891 (pause 0.52) 1168.5133 928 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1168.5133 Um, 1168.9376 929 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1168.9376 (pause 1.33) 1170.2712 930 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1170.2712 and I decided to do it really because like, 1172.4981 931 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1172.4981 (pause 0.47) 1172.9691 932 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1172.9691 the other class was really just, so boring. 1175.3646 933 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1175.3646 (pause 0.46) 1175.8216 934 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1175.8216 And then I get into this /RD-SCHOOL-1/ class and I'm like, alright. 1178.5152 935 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1178.5152 (pause 1.06) 1179.5784 936 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1179.5784 What I liked about that is really 1181.5232 937 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1181.5232 (pause 0.93) 1182.4511 938 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1182.4511 even though the work- I mean, I- it still wasn't really that much more challenging for me, 1186.7678 939 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1186.7678 (pause 1.04) 1187.8088 940 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1187.8088 I found teachers that would 1190.2052 941 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1190.2052 (pause 0.96) 1191.1649 942 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1191.1649 teach me things that are challenging, even if it's on like a individual level. 1195.0806 943 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1195.0806 (pause 0.29) 1195.3717 944 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1195.3717 So, 1195.8484 945 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1195.8484 (pause 0.36) 1196.2041 946 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1196.2041 um, fourth grade is where I first learned how to play chess. 1198.8051 947 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1198.8051 (pause 0.37) 1199.1735 948 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1199.1735 Um, 1199.7361 949 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1199.7361 (pause 0.80) 1200.5382 950 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1200.5382 fifth grade I put a whole- Um, we dissected like, owl pellets. 1205.9658 951 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1205.9658 (pause 0.62) 1206.5813 952 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1206.5813 And I got to put like a whole skeletal system of a vole together. Which 1211.6266 953 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1211.6266 (pause 0.34) 1211.9622 954 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1211.9622 w- was dope. 1212.8879 955 ROC_int_01 1213.1052 Mm-hm. 1213.4725 956 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1213.4082 And then, um, 1214.4486 957 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1214.5651 in sixth grade I learned, uh, there's this game called Magic the Gathering. 1219.4719 958 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1219.4719 (pause 1.05) 1220.5234 959 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1220.5234 It's like a card game. I ended up learning that. 1223.0600 960 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1223.0600 (pause 1.07) 1224.1325 961 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1224.1325 And by the time I got, um, 1225.9790 962 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1225.9790 (pause 0.59) 1226.5665 963 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1226.5665 into sixth grade, my mom had heard that /RD-SCHOOL-4/ was talking about doing a middle school 1231.7330 964 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1231.7330 (pause 0.46) 1232.1900 965 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1232.1900 for seventh and eighth. 1233.5306 966 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1233.5306 (pause 0.35) 1233.8850 967 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1233.8850 So I started a interview process. Got to shadow at the high school. 1237.4661 968 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1237.4661 (pause 1.05) 1238.5199 969 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1238.5199 Which was cool cause I mean, sixth grade, I'm in high school for a day. 1241.9417 970 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1241.9417 (pause 0.10) 1242.0419 971 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1242.0419 I'm the man. [] 1243.2391 972 ROC_int_01 1243.0630 [Yeah.] 1243.3786 973 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1243.6541 Um, 1244.1247 974 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1244.1247 (pause 1.02) 1245.1416 975 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1245.1416 and I ended up getting into 1247.8309 976 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1247.8309 (pause 0.25) 1248.0827 977 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1248.0827 the middle school. 1248.9345 978 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1248.9345 (pause 0.68) 1249.6153 979 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1249.6153 Start at seventh grade, 1251.0328 980 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1251.0328 (pause 1.31) 1252.3477 981 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1252.3477 went through to eighth grade, and then 1255.0759 982 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1255.0759 (pause 0.35) 1255.4256 983 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1255.4256 went to ninth grade. 1256.4049 984 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1256.4049 (pause 0.23) 1256.6333 985 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1256.6333 Um, 1257.1785 986 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1257.1785 (pause 0.65) 1257.8290 987 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1257.8290 the middle school for /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 1260.1698 988 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1260.1698 (pause 1.35) 1261.5189 989 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1261.5189 tried to like embody the high school like philosophy, 1265.3643 990 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1265.3643 (pause 0.94) 1266.3065 991 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1266.3065 but 1266.8844 992 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1266.8844 (pause 1.22) 1268.1037 993 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1268.1037 didn't end up really working out too well. 1270.6310 994 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1270.6310 (pause 0.12) 1270.7523 995 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1270.7523 Um, I remember like, my grade- well, like- yeah my grade, or my class 1275.1540 996 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1275.1540 (pause 0.45) 1275.6017 997 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1275.6017 was pretty much like the- the test subjects for certain things. Okay, 1279.4396 998 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1279.4396 (pause 0.37) 1279.8080 999 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1279.8080 we're gonna have them 1281.2570 1000 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1281.2570 (pause 0.96) 1282.2176 1001 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1282.2176 move like this. 1283.8993 1002 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1283.8993 (pause 0.95) 1284.8506 1003 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1284.8506 Okay that didn't work. Okay we're gonna have them do- So it was a lot of just constant changing. 1289.2803 1004 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1289.2803 (pause 0.39) 1289.6720 1005 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1289.6720 Um, but the plus side, we did keep the same teachers. 1292.3349 1006 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1292.3349 (pause 0.17) 1292.5074 1007 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1292.5074 Like, our teachers moved up with us. So like second year and eighth grade I didn't have to learn 1296.5723 1008 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1296.5723 (pause 0.59) 1297.1645 1009 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1297.1645 new names, or new people, or 1299.0390 1010 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1299.0390 (pause 0.55) 1299.5846 1011 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1299.5846 they didn't have to re-figure me out. 1301.5494 1012 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1301.5494 (pause 1.58) 1303.1336 1013 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1303.1336 But once I got into the high school, the high school- 1305.5586 1014 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1305.5586 (pause 0.68) 1306.2393 1015 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1306.2393 the high school is really where I would say I thrived, 1308.9722 1016 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1308.9722 (pause 0.13) 1309.1004 1017 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1309.1004 because it allowed me to find myself as a individual. 1312.2158 1018 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1312.2158 (pause 0.41) 1312.6308 1019 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1312.6308 It allowed me to work 1313.7499 1020 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1313.7499 (pause 0.19) 1313.9364 1021 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1313.9364 at my own pace. 1315.1735 1022 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1315.1735 (pause 0.51) 1315.6841 1023 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1315.6841 Um, 1316.1597 1024 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1316.1597 (pause 0.73) 1316.8871 1025 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1316.8871 and it opened a lot of different opportunities. 1319.1175 1026 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1319.1175 (pause 0.18) 1319.2994 1027 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1319.2994 Like, um, 1320.1681 1028 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1320.1681 (pause 0.20) 1320.3640 1029 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1320.3640 I've always been into art. 1321.5593 1030 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1321.5593 (pause 0.56) 1322.1189 1031 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1322.1189 So, 1322.8370 1032 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1322.8370 (pause 0.58) 1323.4152 1033 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1323.4152 I think it was like, 1324.5063 1034 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1324.5063 (pause 0.54) 1325.0472 1035 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1325.0472 by my tenth grade, I had maxed out all the art classes at my high school. 1328.4518 1036 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1328.4518 (pause 0.44) 1328.8871 1037 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1328.8871 So my art teacher went and got me into a program where I took art classes with a guy who studied at Disney. 1336.2890 1038 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1336.2890 (pause 0.43) 1336.7226 1039 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1336.7226 His name was /RD-NAME-4/. 1338.0142 1040 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1338.0142 (pause 0.13) 1338.1460 1041 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1338.1460 Um, 1338.5580 1042 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1338.5580 (pause 0.64) 1339.2014 1043 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1339.2014 and he offered 1340.2932 1044 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1340.2932 (pause 0.34) 1340.6290 1045 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1340.6290 a certain amount of scholarships to 1342.8921 1046 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1342.8921 (pause 0.44) 1343.3303 1047 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1343.3303 city school kids. 1344.4436 1048 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1344.4436 (pause 0.54) 1344.9798 1049 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1344.9798 So for that year, I basically got to 1347.8740 1050 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1347.8740 (pause 0.32) 1348.1957 1051 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1348.1957 learn under him 1349.1469 1052 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1349.1469 (pause 0.37) 1349.5200 1053 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1349.5200 human forms, shading, and all this other stuff. 1352.4471 1054 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1352.4471 (pause 0.39) 1352.8405 1055 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1352.8405 What I didn't know 1353.9206 1056 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1353.9206 (pause 0.14) 1354.0651 1057 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1354.0651 was 1354.7366 1058 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1354.7366 (pause 0.16) 1354.8998 1059 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1354.8998 after that he basically 1356.7853 1060 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1356.7853 (pause 1.08) 1357.8671 1061 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1357.8671 hand picked who he wanted to come to his actual advanced class. 1362.2409 1062 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1362.2409 (pause 0.48) 1362.7183 1063 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1362.7183 So my eleventh grade year, 1364.7588 1064 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1364.7588 (pause 0.33) 1365.0923 1065 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1365.0923 I ended up really like, 1366.5821 1066 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1366.5821 (pause 0.47) 1367.0507 1067 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1367.0507 diving into like 1368.3360 1068 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1368.3360 (pause 0.50) 1368.8319 1069 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1368.8319 still lifes, and 1370.5106 1070 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1370.5106 (pause 0.23) 1370.7438 1071 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1370.7438 sculpting, and all this different stuff. 1372.9551 1072 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1372.9551 (pause 0.44) 1373.3922 1073 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1373.3922 And I was like, oh this is cool. (whispered) And it's stuff that like, 1376.5070 1074 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1376.5070 (pause 0.20) 1376.7099 1075 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1376.7099 working with 1377.3267 1076 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1377.3267 (pause 0.46) 1377.7836 1077 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1377.7836 oil paints, and mineral spir- These are things you would never work with, 1381.0774 1078 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1381.0774 (pause 0.29) 1381.3665 1079 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1381.3665 like actually in school. 1382.7087 1080 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1382.7087 (pause 0.98) 1383.6856 1081 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1383.6856 So I got to really really dive into like my interests. 1386.9228 1082 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1386.9228 (pause 0.42) 1387.3472 1083 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1387.3472 Um, 1387.8647 1084 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1387.8647 (pause 0.76) 1388.6283 1085 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1388.6283 got to play football. Always played football. Played football from like seven until seventeen. 1393.4777 1086 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1393.4777 (pause 0.58) 1394.0536 1087 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1394.0536 Um, going to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ you're like, we don't have a football team, but 1397.5321 1088 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1397.5321 (pause 0.26) 1397.7888 1089 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1397.7888 1397.9053 1090 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1397.9053 (pause 0.66) 1398.5628 1091 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1398.5628 we'll get you into /RD-SCHOOL-2/. So I played football for /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 1401.4014 1092 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1401.4014 (pause 0.52) 1401.9223 1093 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1401.9223 Um, 1402.4259 1094 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1402.4259 (pause 3.22) 1405.6456 1095 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1405.6456 I mean, I found poetry at [/RD-SCHOOL-4/.] Um, 1408.5646 1096 ROC_int_01 1407.3499 [Mm-hm.] 1407.9747 1097 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1409.7245 I wanna say that was a mistake, but seeing as how my life turned out, can't be a mistake. 1414.0605 1098 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1414.0605 (pause 0.37) 1414.4352 1099 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1414.4352 1414.9558 1100 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1414.9558 (pause 0.78) 1415.7345 1101 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1415.7345 Uh, 1416.5498 1102 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1416.5498 (pause 0.61) 1417.1606 1103 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1417.1606 I don't know. /RD-SCHOOL-4/ is really- 1419.1144 1104 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1419.1144 (pause 0.82) 1419.9304 1105 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1419.9304 like I said, it was really based off the individual. I mean, I- I meet people that are like, 1423.6642 1106 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1423.6642 (pause 0.40) 1424.0678 1107 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1424.0678 /RD-SCHOOL-4/ didn't teach me anything. And I'm like, 1426.6200 1108 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1426.6200 (pause 0.14) 1426.7629 1109 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1426.7629 uh, no, I remember you being there. You didn't wanna learn anything. 1430.9351 1110 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1430.9351 (pause 0.45) 1431.3827 1111 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1431.3827 Um, 1431.8257 1112 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1431.8257 (pause 0.75) 1432.5717 1113 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1432.5717 I had 1433.5976 1114 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1433.5976 (pause 0.24) 1433.8401 1115 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1433.8401 the math teacher- the math teacher 1435.5420 1116 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1435.5420 (pause 0.44) 1435.9850 1117 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1435.9850 I was 1436.3021 1118 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1436.3021 (pause 0.16) 1436.4653 1119 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1436.4653 up 1436.6471 1120 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1436.6471 (pause 0.45) 1437.0936 1121 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1437.0936 in- in- when I got to the middle school, I skipped up a grade in 1440.8815 1122 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1440.8815 (pause 0.18) 1441.0634 1123 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1441.0634 math. 1441.5560 1124 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1441.5560 (pause 0.50) 1442.0538 1125 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1442.0538 So seventh grade year, I was actually in the eighth grade class with the eighth graders taking math. 1446.5348 1126 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1446.5348 (pause 0.53) 1447.0617 1127 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1447.0617 And then my eighth grade year, they had to get me a, um, 1450.1055 1128 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1450.1055 (pause 0.34) 1450.4459 1129 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1450.4459 one on one like math teacher. 1451.8867 1130 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1451.8867 (pause 0.64) 1452.5255 1131 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1452.5255 So when I got into the high school, I was already just like 1455.4543 1132 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1455.4543 (pause 0.23) 1455.6858 1133 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1455.6858 a one year ahead. 1456.9541 1134 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1456.9541 (pause 1.10) 1458.0546 1135 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1458.0546 So by the time I got to eleventh grade, 1460.5823 1136 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1460.5823 (pause 0.39) 1460.9770 1137 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1460.9770 they had to have the math teacher- he would give me- 1464.1571 1138 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1464.1571 (pause 0.62) 1464.7773 1139 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1464.7773 first he was like, well, 1466.2415 1140 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1466.2415 (pause 0.31) 1466.5481 1141 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1466.5481 since you took this stuff last year, you have to teach your peers. 1469.2898 1142 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1469.2898 (pause 0.28) 1469.5649 1143 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1469.5649 So I [would teach] them. And then he was like, based off of how well and how quick you teach them, 1473.5599 1144 ROC_int_01 1469.8193 [Mm.] 1470.0515 1145 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1473.9982 then I'll teach you calculus. 1475.3474 1146 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1475.3474 (pause 0.25) 1475.5992 1147 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1475.5992 And I'm like, okay so first, you know, I'm not really learning nothing because I'm not teaching well. 1479.6392 1148 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1479.6392 (pause 0.50) 1480.1381 1149 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1480.1381 But eventually, um, 1481.7561 1150 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1481.7561 (pause 0.30) 1482.0592 1151 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1482.0592 he taught me- he taught me calculus and I'm sitting here I'm like, okay, (whispered) 1485.3687 1152 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1485.3687 (pause 0.61) 1485.9749 1153 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1485.9749 derivatives 1486.9961 1154 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1486.9961 (pause 0.45) 1487.4484 1155 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1487.4484 huh, 1488.0685 1156 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1488.0685 (pause 0.80) 1488.8659 1157 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1488.8659 okay. 1489.3182 1158 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1489.3182 (pause 0.42) 1489.7401 1159 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1489.7401 And, um, 1490.6786 1160 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1490.6786 (pause 0.62) 1491.2941 1161 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1491.2941 the thing about /RD-SCHOOL-4/ is we don't take Regents. 1493.8914 1162 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1493.8914 (pause 0.72) 1494.6094 1163 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1494.6094 [So], 1495.2576 1164 ROC_int_01 1495.1771 [Right.] 1495.4662 1165 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1495.8078 we had- 1496.7812 1166 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1496.7812 (pause 0.11) 1496.8931 1167 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1496.8931 from ninth grade until eleventh grade, you kept a portfolio basically 1502.0922 1168 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1502.0922 (pause 0.14) 1502.2321 1169 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1502.2321 all of your work. 1503.1962 1170 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1503.1962 (pause 0.45) 1503.6438 1171 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1503.6438 Um, eleventh grade year, 1505.1826 1172 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1505.1826 (pause 0.13) 1505.3132 1173 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1505.3132 you would have 1506.3203 1174 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1506.3203 (pause 0.62) 1506.9358 1175 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1506.9358 what they called I- 1507.8031 1176 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1507.8031 (pause 0.17) 1507.9745 1177 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1507.9745 I think it was like your summative portfolio. 1510.0775 1178 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1510.0775 (pause 0.47) 1510.5484 1179 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1510.5484 Where you would display 1511.9007 1180 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1511.9007 (pause 0.46) 1512.3576 1181 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1512.3576 your knowledge 1513.2483 1182 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1513.2483 (pause 0.28) 1513.5327 1183 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1513.5327 in something in 1514.9770 1184 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1514.9770 (pause 0.24) 1515.2148 1185 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1515.2148 all four areas. Science, 1517.0567 1186 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1517.0567 (pause 0.59) 1517.6489 1187 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1517.6489 social studies, English, math. 1519.7518 1188 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1519.7518 (pause 1.09) 1520.8418 1189 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1520.8418 And each one had a core like requirement. 1523.0567 1190 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1523.0567 (pause 0.49) 1523.5510 1191 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1523.5510 So science you had to develop an original experiment, 1526.5818 1192 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1526.5818 (pause 0.99) 1527.5739 1193 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1527.5739 carry the whole experiment out, 1529.0474 1194 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1529.0474 (pause 0.50) 1529.5510 1195 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1529.5510 and then come back and report your findings. 1532.0876 1196 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1532.0876 (pause 1.02) 1533.1029 1197 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1533.1029 Social Studies, you had to complete a ten page research paper. 1536.0872 1198 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1536.0872 (pause 0.60) 1536.6840 1199 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1536.6840 Which, 1537.0198 1200 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1537.0198 (pause 0.73) 1537.7518 1201 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1537.7518 oh my gosh, 1538.7344 1202 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1538.7344 (pause 0.72) 1539.4527 1203 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1539.4527 1540.0607 1204 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1540.0607 (pause 0.94) 1541.0054 1205 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1541.0054 I was- 1541.6162 1206 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1541.6162 (pause 0.28) 1541.8914 1207 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1541.8914 I mean, my research paper ended up being fun, but it was just like, oh (whispering) 1545.0050 1208 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1545.0050 (pause 0.38) 1545.3827 1209 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1545.3827 ten pages, (whispering) 1546.0942 1210 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1546.0942 (pause 0.32) 1546.4164 1211 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1546.4164 ah. (whispering) 1546.7769 1212 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1546.7769 (pause 1.11) 1547.8867 1213 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1547.8867 Stay tuned for college. Um, [] 1550.2963 1214 ROC_int_01 1549.5700 [] 1550.2554 1215 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1551.1216 um, 1551.5879 1216 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1551.5879 (pause 0.08) 1551.6718 1217 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1551.6718 English, English it was- you had to write 1554.3716 1218 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1554.3716 (pause 0.14) 1554.5162 1219 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1554.5162 a thesis paper, and then you had to defend it against the English teachers. 1558.3759 1220 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1558.3759 (pause 0.78) 1559.1546 1221 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1559.1546 And then, uh, math, you had to basically apply 1563.0423 1222 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1563.0423 (pause 0.55) 1563.5972 1223 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1563.5972 a real-life application problem. 1565.5603 1224 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1565.5603 (pause 0.48) 1566.0452 1225 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1566.0452 And since I was doing calculus, 1567.9244 1226 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1567.9244 (pause 0.38) 1568.3067 1227 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1568.3067 my teacher's like, okay so, 1570.2453 1228 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1570.2453 (pause 0.54) 1570.7816 1229 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1570.7816 meteors coming to strike the earth. 1572.4835 1230 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1572.4835 (pause 0.47) 1572.9498 1231 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1572.9498 You have to intercept it at the right time, so it'll fall, and I'm like, 1576.0542 1232 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1576.0542 (pause 1.19) 1577.2432 1233 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1577.2432 this is big. 1578.0499 1234 ROC_int_01 1578.0859 [] 1579.2703 1235 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1578.4310 [This is big. (laughing)] 1579.2203 1236 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1579.7518 Um, 1580.2508 1237 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1580.2508 (pause 0.46) 1580.7113 1238 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1580.7113 but the thing that I realized was like, 1582.4039 1239 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1582.4039 (pause 1.53) 1583.9380 1240 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1583.9380 they were looking for 1585.4954 1241 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1585.4954 (pause 0.52) 1586.0130 1242 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1586.0130 the work. 1586.6798 1243 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1586.6798 (pause 0.46) 1587.1402 1244 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1587.1402 The- the- the- the- 1588.5951 1245 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1588.5951 (pause 0.42) 1589.0147 1246 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1589.0147 the attempt, the effort, 1590.3157 1247 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1590.3157 (pause 0.22) 1590.5348 1248 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1590.5348 the 1591.0058 1249 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1591.0058 (pause 0.65) 1591.6586 1250 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1591.6586 okay, 1592.3662 1251 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1592.3662 (pause 0.92) 1593.2848 1252 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1593.2848 this isn't working, 1594.4038 1253 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1594.4038 (pause 0.13) 1594.5303 1254 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1594.5303 go back and correct it. They weren't really like, 1597.0011 1255 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1597.0011 (pause 0.40) 1597.4021 1256 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1597.4021 you need to have the right answer to pass. And that was- 1600.4692 1257 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1600.4692 (pause 0.90) 1601.3691 1258 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1601.3691 I would say that was also another like character building moment, because 1604.8651 1259 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1604.8651 (pause 0.93) 1605.7930 1260 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1605.7930 I remember seeing a lot of people just like, break down and just start crying. I'm just like, 1610.4186 1261 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1610.4186 (pause 0.74) 1611.1589 1262 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1611.1589 dude you got corrections. We all got corrections. 1613.8680 1263 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1613.8680 (pause 0.21) 1614.0732 1264 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1614.0732 If you sit here and cry about it, you're gonna stay in eleventh grade. 1616.8511 1265 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1616.8511 (pause 0.47) 1617.3174 1266 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1617.3174 And like, I don't wanna stay in eleventh grade. 1619.5510 1267 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1619.5510 (pause 0.15) 1619.7048 1268 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1619.7048 Or I don't wanna have to redo any of this over. So like, 1622.6273 1269 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1622.6273 (pause 0.45) 1623.0750 1270 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1623.0750 alright, go back and make your corrections. 1625.0397 1271 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1625.0397 (pause 1.09) 1626.1338 1272 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1626.1338 And then, um, 1627.1363 1273 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1627.1363 (pause 0.60) 1627.7332 1274 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1627.7332 after you pass it, 1628.7998 1275 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1628.7998 (pause 0.53) 1629.3268 1276 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1629.3268 it was pretty much like okay, 1630.9634 1277 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1630.9634 (pause 0.41) 1631.3738 1278 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1631.3738 senior year you have your senior project. 1633.4504 1279 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1633.4504 (pause 0.15) 1633.5996 1280 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1633.5996 And senior project, you had to pick 1635.9096 1281 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1635.9096 (pause 0.58) 1636.4878 1282 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1636.4878 some type of skill, or talent that you had 1638.9032 1283 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1638.9032 (pause 0.26) 1639.1643 1284 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1639.1643 no background in. 1640.4466 1285 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1640.4466 (pause 0.69) 1641.1402 1286 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1641.1402 And you did it for 1643.1360 1287 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1643.1360 (pause 0.45) 1643.5836 1288 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1643.5836 eight months. 1644.3763 1289 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1644.3763 (pause 0.35) 1644.7213 1290 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1644.7213 And at the end, you'll have- um, 1646.7344 1291 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1646.7344 (pause 1.75) 1648.4832 1292 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1648.4832 you'll have like a final meeting. So basically you would have to get 1651.4861 1293 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1651.4861 (pause 0.39) 1651.8777 1294 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1651.8777 two community experts, 1653.3081 1295 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1653.3081 (pause 0.27) 1653.5786 1296 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1653.5786 based off of whatever your project was. 1655.5929 1297 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1655.5929 (pause 0.45) 1656.0452 1298 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1656.0452 You would have to get 1656.9405 1299 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1656.9405 (pause 0.11) 1657.0477 1300 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1657.0477 two advisors, who are 1658.4932 1301 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1658.4932 (pause 0.19) 1658.6786 1302 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1658.6786 teachers in the building. And then you would have to have two students. 1662.0033 1303 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1662.0033 (pause 0.66) 1662.6607 1304 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1662.6607 And 1663.2016 1305 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1663.2016 (pause 0.18) 1663.3788 1306 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1663.3788 the idea was 1664.7217 1307 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1664.7217 (pause 0.65) 1665.3734 1308 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1665.3734 you would want 1666.0262 1309 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1666.0262 (pause 0.17) 1666.1987 1310 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1666.1987 the students to be juniors. 1667.6955 1311 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1667.6955 (pause 1.14) 1668.8379 1312 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1668.8379 So like, 1669.3963 1313 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1669.3963 (pause 0.17) 1669.5688 1314 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1669.5688 before I got to my senior year, I sat on probably like five different senior committees, really, so you kno- understand and know what it looks like and how the process goes. 1677.6625 1315 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1677.6625 (pause 0.54) 1678.1987 1316 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1678.1987 Um, my senior project was capoeira. 1680.8845 1317 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1680.8845 (pause 0.66) 1681.5455 1318 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1681.5455 Which, uh, that year I ended up quitting football because 1684.9308 1319 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1684.9308 (pause 0.28) 1685.2152 1320 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1685.2152 I had to focus on that and I couldn't get injured. 1687.2856 1321 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1687.2856 (pause 0.51) 1687.7938 1322 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1687.7938 Um, 1688.1668 1323 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1688.1668 (pause 1.50) 1689.6671 1324 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1689.6671 and 1690.2127 1325 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1690.2127 (pause 0.34) 1690.5484 1326 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1690.5484 the senior project is re- was another- Like, 1692.8659 1327 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1692.8659 (pause 0.76) 1693.6241 1328 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1693.6241 I could say /RD-SCHOOL-4/ definitely f- I found my identity and- and- and 1697.7841 1329 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1697.7841 (pause 0.40) 1698.1804 1330 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1698.1804 developed, again, like a lot of- a lot of different character, 1700.8978 1331 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1700.8978 (pause 0.32) 1701.2195 1332 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1701.2195 uh, 1701.6252 1333 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1701.6252 (pause 0.45) 1702.0728 1334 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1702.0728 traits. 1702.6324 1335 ROC_int_01 1702.6447 Mm-hm. 1703.0138 1336 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1703.3784 It's like, 1704.1245 1337 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1704.1245 (pause 0.75) 1704.8752 1338 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1704.8752 okay, 1705.4254 1339 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1705.4254 (pause 1.37) 1706.7998 1340 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1706.7998 I know I don't really feel like waking up 1708.8561 1341 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1708.8561 (pause 0.17) 1709.0239 1342 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1709.0239 on 1709.8108 1343 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1709.8108 (pause 0.13) 1709.9414 1344 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1709.9414 Sunday afternoon to go do this, 1712.4795 1345 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1712.4795 (pause 0.36) 1712.8418 1346 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1712.8418 knowing that Sundays is 1714.4039 1347 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1714.4039 (pause 0.27) 1714.6697 1348 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1714.6697 Crossfit workout days and 1716.7586 1349 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1716.7586 (pause 0.60) 1717.3602 1350 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1717.3602 I gotta go to school tomorrow. And then, m- also senior year I had a job. And I'm just like, 1722.4744 1351 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1722.4744 (pause 0.51) 1722.9825 1352 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1722.9825 alright. 1724.0549 1353 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1724.0549 (pause 0.61) 1724.6693 1354 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1724.6693 Um, 1725.0983 1355 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1725.0983 (pause 0.16) 1725.2568 1356 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1725.2568 but luckily like senior year I didn't really have much classes 1727.7281 1357 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1727.7281 (pause 0.18) 1727.9100 1358 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1727.9100 because I had- um, 1729.3742 1359 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1729.3742 (pause 0.52) 1729.8964 1360 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1729.8964 like I said, you work at your own pace. 1731.4527 1361 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1731.4527 (pause 0.30) 1731.7511 1362 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1731.7511 So, 1732.1894 1363 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1732.1894 (pause 0.79) 1732.9774 1364 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1732.9774 I was just racking up credits in my first three years. 1735.7938 1365 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1735.7938 (pause 0.21) 1736.0083 1366 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1736.0083 Getting whatever I needed out the way 1737.7697 1367 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1737.7697 (pause 1.03) 1738.7956 1368 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1738.7956 so senior year, I could have that like relax time and focus really just on my project, but still, it's still- 1744.9821 1369 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1744.9821 (pause 0.72) 1745.7048 1370 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1745.7048 I mean, it still was a push. Like, 1747.1130 1371 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1747.1130 (pause 0.55) 1747.6586 1372 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1747.6586 you still 1748.2927 1373 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1748.2927 (pause 0.30) 1748.5947 1374 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1748.5947 are 1749.0330 1375 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1749.0330 (pause 0.41) 1749.4480 1376 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1749.4480 a seventeen year old, eighteen year old like, 1751.9866 1377 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1751.9866 (pause 0.69) 1752.6794 1378 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1752.6794 okay I got all this free time, or 1754.8325 1379 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1754.8325 (pause 0.24) 1755.0703 1380 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1755.0703 I'm ahead of the game, so 1756.5999 1381 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1756.5999 (pause 0.17) 1756.7725 1382 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1756.7725 I'm'a just slack a little bit. 1758.2038 1383 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1758.2038 (pause 0.48) 1758.6794 1384 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1758.6794 And I guess it was really just 1760.3580 1385 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1760.3580 (pause 0.65) 1761.0097 1386 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1761.0097 making sure that I'm just like, no, 1763.0427 1387 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1763.0427 (pause 0.32) 1763.3644 1388 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1763.3644 no, I gotta hold myself accountable, I still got this. 1765.8952 1389 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1765.8952 (pause 0.55) 1766.4455 1390 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1766.4455 Um, 1766.8092 1391 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1766.8092 (pause 0.81) 1767.6205 1392 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1767.6205 graduating /RD-SCHOOL-4/ and going into college, 1770.8146 1393 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1770.8146 (pause 1.64) 1772.4501 1394 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1772.4501 and really the real world, cause when I went into college I was going to school, but I was also 1777.5840 1395 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1777.5840 (pause 0.78) 1778.3627 1396 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1778.3627 at that time, like really working and supporting myself. 1781.5883 1397 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1781.5883 (pause 2.25) 1783.8358 1398 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1783.8358 It developed me for the real world. 1785.6205 1399 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1785.6205 (pause 0.29) 1785.9096 1400 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1785.9096 I remember, 1786.5624 1401 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1786.5624 (pause 0.45) 1787.0101 1402 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1787.0101 um, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 1788.6561 1403 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1788.6561 (pause 0.53) 1789.1830 1404 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1789.1830 sitting in freshman seminar and these kids are like, ha, 1793.2992 1405 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1793.2992 (pause 0.29) 1793.5883 1406 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1793.5883 I gotta go home and have my mom wash my clothes because I don't know how. And I'm like, 1797.7091 1407 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1797.7091 (pause 1.60) 1799.3085 1408 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1799.3085 what do you mean? 1799.7841 1409 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1799.7841 (pause 0.78) 1800.5644 1410 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1800.5644 What are you talking about? 1801.5140 1411 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1801.5140 (pause 0.87) 1802.3848 1412 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1802.3848 Or, oh, I gotta go and ask so-and-so for money because- I'm like, 1805.9753 1413 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1805.9753 (pause 0.51) 1806.4882 1414 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1806.4882 you don't have a job. 1807.2622 1415 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1807.2622 (pause 0.36) 1807.6213 1416 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1807.6213 Oh my gosh, 1808.5119 1417 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1808.5119 (pause 0.41) 1808.9257 1418 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1808.9257 this college campus is literally your world. Like, 1811.9520 1419 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1811.9520 (pause 0.62) 1812.5721 1420 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1812.5721 you don't- 1813.0151 1421 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1813.0151 (pause 1.07) 1814.0876 1422 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1814.0876 you don't know there's so much 1816.0682 1423 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1816.0682 (pause 0.56) 1816.6324 1424 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1816.6324 like literally less than ten miles away from you. Like, 1819.4631 1425 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1819.4631 (pause 0.31) 1819.7708 1426 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1819.7708 you've never been to the city. You've just been- 1821.8272 1427 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1821.8272 (pause 0.43) 1822.2562 1428 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1822.2562 you haven't even been to Fairport. You're just 1824.0234 1429 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1824.0234 (pause 0.97) 1824.9921 1430 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1824.9921 in this bubble, in this dome. 1826.7594 1431 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1826.7594 (pause 0.50) 1827.2583 1432 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1827.2583 And that, 1827.9018 1433 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1827.9018 (pause 0.61) 1828.5080 1434 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1828.5080 that right there made me /realize-/ I'm like oh, (whispered) 1831.3139 1435 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1831.3139 (pause 1.94) 1833.2583 1436 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1833.2583 like, 1833.8923 1437 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1833.8923 (pause 1.13) 1835.0255 1438 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1835.0255 you can be book smart, 1836.4046 1439 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1836.4046 (pause 0.49) 1836.8942 1440 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1836.8942 but like, 1837.5983 1441 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1837.5983 (pause 0.99) 1838.5915 1442 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1838.5915 there's a different type of something out here, 1841.4032 1443 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1841.4032 (pause 0.38) 1841.7809 1444 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1841.7809 that you definitely need in life. 1843.6509 1445 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1843.6509 (pause 0.24) 1843.8921 1446 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1843.8921 And it's like, luckily I have it, but I don't know how to convey it or express it to these people. 1848.7403 1447 ROC_int_01 1848.7403 Mm-hm. 1849.0388 1448 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1849.4631 And, um, 1850.2838 1449 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1850.2838 (pause 1.84) 1852.1209 1450 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1852.1209 my freshman year, my learning community was- 1855.5720 1451 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1855.5720 (pause 0.88) 1856.4516 1452 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1856.4516 it was like the beginning of like, 1858.6991 1453 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1858.6991 (pause 0.33) 1859.0255 1454 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1859.0255 alternative literacies and like discourse communities. 1862.1812 1455 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1862.1812 (pause 0.53) 1862.7081 1456 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1862.7081 And I remember like, being in class and 1865.6399 1457 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1865.6399 (pause 0.48) 1866.1202 1458 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1866.1202 /RD-SCHOOL-2/- 1866.6517 1459 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1866.6517 (pause 0.54) 1867.1926 1460 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1867.1926 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 1867.7662 1461 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1867.7662 (pause 0.28) 1868.0459 1462 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1868.0459 main thing is like, okay (whispered), 1869.5025 1463 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1869.5025 (pause 0.29) 1869.7945 1464 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1869.7945 we got diversity 1870.9323 1465 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1870.9323 (pause 0.77) 1871.7052 1466 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1871.7052 quote, unquote. 1872.9221 1467 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1872.9221 (pause 0.31) 1873.2345 1468 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1873.2345 Cause I'm like in this class with 1875.5101 1469 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1875.5101 (pause 0.68) 1876.1862 1470 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1876.1862 forty other kids. 1877.5991 1471 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1877.5991 (pause 0.75) 1878.3533 1472 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1878.3533 And, 1879.3185 1473 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1879.3185 (pause 0.82) 1880.1392 1474 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1880.1392 I'm the only one from the inner-city. 1881.7855 1475 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1881.7855 (pause 0.95) 1882.7364 1476 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1882.7364 Pretty much the only one of any type of color. 1885.3232 1477 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1885.3232 (pause 0.69) 1886.0133 1478 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1886.0133 There was another guy who was 1887.4075 1479 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1887.4075 (pause 1.12) 1888.5313 1480 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1888.5313 Puerto Rican 1889.3380 1481 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1889.3380 (pause 0.84) 1890.1761 1482 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1890.1761 -ish. 1890.6564 1483 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1890.6564 (pause 1.01) 1891.6636 1484 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1891.6636 So it was like- 1892.7174 1485 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1892.7174 (pause 0.43) 1893.1464 1486 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1893.1464 but he lived in mo- 1894.3214 1487 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1894.3214 (pause 0.34) 1894.6618 1488 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1894.6618 he lived in the suburb. 1895.6737 1489 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1895.6737 (pause 0.32) 1895.9954 1490 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1895.9954 So I'm like- 1896.6144 1491 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1896.6144 (pause 0.74) 1897.3558 1492 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1897.3558 So we're reading all these like scholarly articles on these different alternative literacies, and 1903.0061 1493 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1903.0061 (pause 0.76) 1903.7615 1494 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1903.7615 you get these kids who are just like, raising their hand. And like their views are like, so like, 1908.2601 1495 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1908.2601 (pause 0.31) 1908.5725 1496 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1908.5725 close minded. And I'm just like, um, 1911.3532 1497 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1911.3532 (pause 0.61) 1911.9671 1498 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1911.9671 no, 1912.6339 1499 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1912.6339 (pause 0.47) 1913.1037 1500 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1913.1037 it's not really how it works. And everybody's looking at me like, 1916.3629 1501 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1916.3629 (pause 0.93) 1917.2909 1502 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1917.2909 what? 1917.7106 1503 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1917.7106 (pause 0.64) 1918.3494 1504 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1918.3494 And like I'm 1919.1001 1505 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1919.1001 (pause 0.30) 1919.3986 1506 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1919.3986 speaking from like my experience and they're just like, 1921.9200 1507 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1921.9200 (pause 1.31) 1923.2350 1508 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1923.2350 no, no. And I had a professor 1926.0094 1509 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1926.0094 (pause 1.22) 1927.2299 1510 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1927.2299 who was like, 1928.1672 1511 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1928.1672 (pause 0.28) 1928.4423 1512 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1928.4423 no like, yes that's really how it is. Like 1931.1561 1513 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1931.1561 (pause 0.53) 1931.6865 1514 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1931.6865 cause she like, dove into it. She was actually going for her 1935.7013 1515 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1935.7013 (pause 0.68) 1936.3774 1516 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1936.3774 doctorate 1936.8844 1517 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1936.8844 (pause 0.16) 1937.0429 1518 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1937.0429 at the time 1937.7470 1519 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1937.7470 (pause 0.21) 1937.9522 1520 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1937.9522 in 1938.3486 1521 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1938.3486 (pause 0.12) 1938.4699 1522 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1938.4699 what she was teaching. 1939.7614 1523 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1939.7614 (pause 0.41) 1940.1764 1524 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1940.1764 So, 1940.6661 1525 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1940.6661 (pause 0.68) 1941.3469 1526 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1941.3469 she's like, yeah this is- 1942.9929 1527 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1942.9929 (pause 0.34) 1943.3333 1528 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1943.3333 this is what the like 1944.4699 1529 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1944.4699 (pause 0.31) 1944.7823 1530 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1944.7823 inner-city is like. These are s- real life situations that 1948.1769 1531 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1948.1769 (pause 0.62) 1948.7924 1532 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1948.7924 other people have to come from. 1950.1713 1533 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1950.1713 (pause 0.45) 1950.6238 1534 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1950.6238 And 1951.1600 1535 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1951.1600 (pause 1.51) 1952.6708 1536 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1952.6708 I just remember feeling like, I'm like, okay, now I'm just like that- 1955.8649 1537 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1955.8649 (pause 0.22) 1956.0875 1538 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1956.0875 that outside- 1957.3791 1539 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1957.3791 (pause 0.38) 1957.7615 1540 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1957.7615 that outside guy. Like, 1959.2490 1541 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1959.2490 (pause 0.73) 1959.9764 1542 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1959.9764 I'm a commuter. 1960.8390 1543 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1960.8390 (pause 0.97) 1961.8136 1544 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1961.8136 I'm in a class with 1962.9035 1545 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1962.9035 (pause 1.14) 1964.0459 1546 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1964.0459 privileged kids who never really faced any adversity. 1967.5618 1547 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1967.5618 (pause 0.67) 1968.2367 1548 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1968.2367 Who never really s- s- had to deal with anyone 1971.9950 1549 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1971.9950 (pause 0.28) 1972.2748 1550 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1972.2748 like me. 1972.9136 1551 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1972.9136 (pause 0.68) 1973.5933 1552 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1973.5933 And they're probably f- trying to figure out, um, what is he doing here? 1977.3795 1553 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1977.3795 (pause 0.53) 1977.9111 1554 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1977.9111 So, um, 1978.7085 1555 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1978.7085 (pause 0.19) 1978.8996 1556 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1978.8996 yeah it was- 1979.8835 1557 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1979.8835 (pause 2.33) 1982.2185 1558 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1982.2185 college was very interesting. 1983.9950 1559 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1983.9950 (pause 0.35) 1984.3448 1560 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1984.3448 College was a very interesting experience /?/ 1987.2626 1561 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1987.2626 (pause 0.99) 1988.2558 1562 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1988.2558 um, 1988.7500 1563 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1988.7500 (pause 1.16) 1989.9111 1564 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1989.9111 I enjoyed it 1990.8763 1565 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1990.8763 (pause 0.57) 1991.4487 1566 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1991.4487 for what it was, 1992.5072 1567 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1992.5072 (pause 0.52) 1993.0294 1568 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1993.0294 but I'm glad that 1994.5355 1569 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1994.5355 (pause 0.77) 1995.3096 1570 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1995.3096 I was a commuter. 1996.2841 1571 ROC_int_01 1996.8390 Mm-hm. 1997.3629 1572 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1997.4872 Um, 1997.9348 1573 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1997.9348 (pause 1.98) 1999.9107 1574 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 1999.9107 like, 2000.2558 1575 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2000.2558 (pause 0.18) 2000.4376 1576 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2000.4376 the education I got from /RD-SCHOOL-2/ 2002.4804 1577 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2002.4804 (pause 0.12) 2002.6017 1578 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2002.6017 was- 2003.4359 1579 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2003.4359 (pause 1.15) 2004.5865 1580 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2004.5865 was top tier, 2005.5265 1581 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2005.5265 (pause 0.30) 2005.8244 1582 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2005.8244 [but again], um, 2007.2257 1583 ROC_int_01 2005.8321 [Mm-hm.] 2006.2965 1584 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2008.5919 had to take it into your own hands. 2010.2738 1585 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2010.2738 (pause 0.39) 2010.6657 1586 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2010.6657 I remember 2011.3885 1587 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2011.3885 (pause 0.59) 2011.9760 1588 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2011.9760 like by the time like eleventh grade, I'm like oh, um, I want a class about so and so and so and so. They're like, 2018.4236 1589 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2018.4236 (pause 0.80) 2019.2257 1590 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2019.2257 create it. I'm like, 2020.4427 1591 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2020.4427 (pause 0.29) 2020.7345 1592 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2020.7345 you're gonna be my advisor? Yeah I'll be your advisor. Okay, so I- 2024.1744 1593 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2024.1744 (pause 0.49) 2024.6642 1594 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2024.6642 by the time eleventh grade, I was creating my own classes and 2028.1847 1595 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2028.1847 (pause 1.09) 2029.2760 1596 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2029.2760 doing the work and basically making my own like, assignments and curriculum. Like, do you think this is enough? I remember I had- I had one, um, 2036.8227 1597 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2036.8227 (pause 0.55) 2037.3730 1598 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2037.3730 she was actually my 2038.4081 1599 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2038.4081 (pause 0.52) 2038.9304 1600 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2038.9304 actual English advisor. 2040.4100 1601 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2040.4100 (pause 0.23) 2040.6382 1602 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2040.6382 She's like, 2041.2338 1603 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2041.2338 (pause 0.91) 2042.1419 1604 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2042.1419 that's too much. I'm like, 2043.5548 1605 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2043.5548 (pause 0.66) 2044.2169 1606 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2044.2169 really? You sure? 2045.1122 1607 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2045.1122 (pause 0.21) 2045.3267 1608 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2045.3267 I- I- just- I feel like it's not enough. She's like no no no, 2048.0749 1609 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2048.0749 (pause 0.32) 2048.3964 1610 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2048.3964 no no. 2048.9117 1611 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2048.9117 (pause 1.24) 2050.1470 1612 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2050.1470 Scale it down a bit, and then 2051.7837 1613 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2051.7837 (pause 0.92) 2052.7023 1614 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2052.7023 it was- it was nice. It was dope. 2054.0405 1615 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2054.0405 (pause 0.13) 2054.1746 1616 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2054.1746 I got to- I got to learn, again, a lot about myself and a lot- 2057.9096 1617 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2057.9096 (pause 0.71) 2058.6230 1618 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2058.6230 I would say like college 2059.7887 1619 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2059.7887 (pause 0.71) 2060.4963 1620 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2060.4963 took me outside of myself and really learning about 2063.6484 1621 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2063.6484 (pause 0.28) 2063.9329 1622 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2063.9329 other people. 2064.7607 1623 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2064.7607 (pause 0.39) 2065.1531 1624 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2065.1531 Um, I'm a very introverted type of person. 2067.2237 1625 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2067.2237 (pause 0.48) 2067.6994 1626 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2067.6994 And I would say, 2068.7299 1627 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2068.7299 (pause 0.28) 2069.0050 1628 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2069.0050 up until 2069.9893 1629 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2069.9893 (pause 0.20) 2070.1925 1630 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2070.1925 seventeen and I started slam poetry. 2072.4357 1631 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2072.4357 (pause 1.04) 2073.4755 1632 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2073.4755 I was still very just- 2075.2288 1633 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2075.2288 (pause 1.09) 2076.3152 1634 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2076.3152 I saw the world around me, but it was just like, I don't wanna participate in that. So I'm'a just stay in my bubble. 2081.2754 1635 ROC_int_01 2081.2987 Mm-hm. 2081.7790 1636 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2081.7151 Um, 2082.1427 1637 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2083.2711 but 2083.6908 1638 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2083.6908 (pause 0.25) 2083.9368 1639 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2083.9368 in finding my voice, I started realizing that like no, like, 2087.3920 1640 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2087.3920 (pause 0.48) 2087.8723 1641 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2087.8723 I gotta start doing something about this. 2089.6162 1642 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2089.6162 (pause 0.46) 2090.0720 1643 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2090.0720 And, um, 2090.8833 1644 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2090.8833 (pause 0.58) 2091.4615 1645 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2091.4615 I would say college definitely 2093.1215 1646 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2093.1215 (pause 0.19) 2093.3154 1647 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2093.3154 helped, 2093.9189 1648 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2093.9189 (pause 0.58) 2094.5018 1649 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2094.5018 um, with, 2095.3469 1650 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2095.3469 (pause 0.32) 2095.6628 1651 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2095.6628 the education 2096.6968 1652 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2096.6968 (pause 0.19) 2096.8880 1653 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2096.8880 of how to do that, 2098.2449 1654 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2098.2449 (pause 0.42) 2098.6692 1655 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2098.6692 um, 2099.1635 1656 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2099.1635 (pause 0.55) 2099.7137 1657 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2099.7137 but also really 2100.8235 1658 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2100.8235 (pause 1.30) 2102.1280 1659 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2102.1280 pushing me and encouraging me to do that, 2104.2212 1660 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2104.2212 (pause 0.14) 2104.3630 1661 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2104.3630 and allowing me to do that. I remember one time, 2106.6603 1662 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2106.6603 (pause 0.36) 2107.0240 1663 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2107.0240 I did like a flash performance in the hallway 2109.2899 1664 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2109.2899 (pause 0.72) 2110.0118 1665 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2110.0118 and, (laughing) 2110.7065 1666 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2110.7065 (pause 1.97) 2112.6789 1667 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2112.6789 um, 2113.1686 1668 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2113.1686 (pause 1.07) 2114.2352 1669 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2114.2352 everybody just stopped. 2115.2191 1670 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2115.2191 (pause 0.55) 2115.7646 1671 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2115.7646 Like, 2116.0864 1672 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2116.0864 (pause 0.58) 2116.6692 1673 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2116.6692 it's like, 2117.0936 1674 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2117.0936 (pause 1.18) 2118.2779 1675 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2118.2779 two hundred students just backing up the hallways. 2121.1025 1676 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2121.1025 (pause 0.39) 2121.4942 1677 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2121.4942 So like people are coming out of class and everybody's just like crowding around. And they're like- 2125.5311 1678 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2125.5311 (pause 0.65) 2126.1839 1679 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2126.1839 Next thing I know, I get campus security. 2128.9257 1680 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2128.9257 (pause 0.15) 2129.0796 1681 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2129.0796 Running. 2131.6162 1682 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2131.6162 (pause 0.41) 2132.0300 1683 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2132.0300 Move, move, move, move, move, what are you doing? 2134.1983 1684 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2134.1983 (pause 0.24) 2134.4361 1685 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2134.4361 Luckily I had my advisor, like right there with me. 2137.3318 1686 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2137.3318 (pause 0.29) 2137.6255 1687 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2137.6255 She's like, no, 2138.5010 1688 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2138.5010 (pause 0.26) 2138.7621 1689 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2138.7621 he's doing a performance, da da da da, 2140.8138 1690 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2140.8138 (pause 0.21) 2141.0236 1691 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2141.0236 stop, you gotta wait until after he's done. (laughing) 2143.3073 1692 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2143.3073 (pause 0.41) 2143.7223 1693 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2143.7223 So, (laughing) 2144.3285 1694 ROC_int_01 2144.5855 [Wow.] 2144.8313 1695 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2144.6968 [they] waited until after I was done. And they're like, you can't do that, it's a fire hazard. And I'm like, well, 2150.5477 1696 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2150.9353 it was 2151.2144 1697 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2151.2144 (pause 0.28) 2151.4988 1698 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2151.4988 nobody here when I started. Like, (laughing) 2153.3267 1699 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2153.3267 (pause 0.64) 2153.9702 1700 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2153.9702 so, um, I ended up 2155.5089 1701 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2155.5089 (pause 0.14) 2155.6477 1702 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2155.6477 getting like, a little like, e-mail from the Dean. 2158.5200 1703 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2158.5200 (pause 0.22) 2158.7392 1704 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2158.7392 It was just, 2159.3780 1705 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2159.3780 (pause 0.37) 2159.7510 1706 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2159.7510 kind of weird, because like, 2161.2478 1707 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2161.2478 (pause 1.21) 2162.4544 1708 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2162.4544 on the same token, and we're like, I would get reprimanded. 2164.9164 1709 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2164.9164 (pause 0.80) 2165.7137 1710 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2165.7137 Like they had, uh, /RD-NAME-4/ 2167.9706 1711 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2167.9706 (pause 0.11) 2168.0830 1712 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2168.0830 from /RD-SCHOOL-7/ come up. 2170.0584 1713 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2170.0584 (pause 0.44) 2170.4967 1714 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2170.4967 And they're like- 2171.2614 1715 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2171.2614 (pause 0.83) 2172.0868 1716 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2172.0868 I get another email. 2173.0660 1717 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2173.0660 (pause 1.16) 2174.2305 1718 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2174.2305 We want you to have lunch with /RD-NAME-4/. 2176.2776 1719 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2176.2776 (pause 0.25) 2176.5247 1720 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2176.5247 So I'm [like-] 2177.2334 1721 ROC_int_01 2177.1728 [Mm.] 2177.5132 1722 ROC_int_01 2178.3832 Course. 2178.9727 1723 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2179.1173 You know? 2179.5416 1724 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2179.5416 (pause 0.28) 2179.8260 1725 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2179.8260 [/Yeah./] 2180.2282 1726 ROC_int_01 2179.9694 [Mm-hm.] 2180.3984 1727 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2180.5616 Um, 2180.9766 1728 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2180.9766 (pause 0.17) 2181.1491 1729 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2181.1491 now mind you like, 2181.9092 1730 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2181.9092 (pause 0.39) 2182.3009 1731 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2182.3009 Me and him we had- 2183.0749 1732 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2183.0749 (pause 0.75) 2183.8210 1733 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2183.8210 It was three other students. 2185.0800 1734 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2185.0800 (pause 0.16) 2185.2385 1735 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2185.2385 They kind of pretty much got pushed to the side. Cause we were just sitting here and then we're like, /??/ I- 2189.3314 1736 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2189.3314 (pause 0.18) 2189.5132 1737 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2189.5132 I got all these theories. I'm like, 2191.0100 1738 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2191.0100 (pause 0.58) 2191.5929 1739 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2191.5929 what if 2192.1244 1740 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2192.1244 (pause 0.10) 2192.2259 1741 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2192.2259 in, um- 2192.9766 1742 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2192.9766 (pause 0.84) 2193.8159 1743 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2193.8159 I use like, again, like my environment I was like, um, so if we're talking about like alternative literacies like, 2199.5175 1744 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2199.5175 (pause 0.29) 2199.8113 1745 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2199.8113 how do you feel about if you take 2201.6718 1746 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2201.6718 (pause 0.34) 2202.0121 1747 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2202.0121 someone. I'm like hey, 2203.2665 1748 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2203.2665 (pause 0.55) 2203.8120 1749 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2203.8120 be honest with you man, from the hood. So, 2205.6378 1750 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2205.6378 (pause 0.73) 2206.3708 1751 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2206.3708 I'm like, you take a drug dealer, 2207.7230 1752 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2207.7230 (pause 0.19) 2207.9142 1753 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2207.9142 alright? Mm-mm, 2208.8608 1754 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2208.8608 (pause 0.009) 2208.8701 1755 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2208.8701 (pause 0.28) 2209.1452 1756 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2209.1452 he has skills. 2210.1478 1757 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2210.1478 (pause 0.39) 2210.5383 1758 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2210.5383 Has- he has very reputable skills. You take him out of the environment, 2213.8303 1759 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2213.8303 (pause 0.25) 2214.0821 1760 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2214.0821 you put him in a place where he can learn to- and- and hone those skills, and brush up on those skills. He's like, 2218.6692 1761 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2218.6692 (pause 1.18) 2219.8536 1762 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2219.8536 you know what (whispered), I think you might be onto something, young man. I'm like- 2222.3424 1763 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2222.3424 (pause 0.41) 2222.7574 1764 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2222.7574 A- 2222.8554 1765 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2222.8554 (pause 0.48) 2223.3403 1766 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2223.3403 it was awesome. It was- it was one of- one of- one of the biggest- uh, 2226.2593 1767 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2226.2593 (pause 0.82) 2227.0753 1768 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2227.0753 one of my favorite like college experiences. 2229.2051 1769 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2229.2051 (pause 0.69) 2229.8952 1770 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2229.8952 But yeah, it was just like weird. It's like, 2231.6857 1771 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2231.6857 (pause 1.16) 2232.8421 1772 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2232.8421 so you reprimand me for expressing myself, but 2236.1703 1773 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2236.1703 (pause 0.53) 2236.6972 1774 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2236.6972 this big wig come to town and you want me to talk to him? 2240.1000 1775 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2240.1000 (pause 0.41) 2240.5056 1776 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2240.5056 So I don't really know how you guys feel about me. I don't really know how to feel about that. 2244.5157 1777 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2244.5157 (pause 0.62) 2245.1359 1778 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2245.1359 Um, 2245.4810 1779 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2245.4810 (pause 0.72) 2246.1979 1780 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2246.1979 but basically, 2247.2097 1781 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2247.2097 (pause 0.17) 2247.3823 1782 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2247.3823 in the end 2248.3394 1783 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2248.3394 (pause 0.14) 2248.4765 1784 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2248.4765 of my college career, 2249.9375 1785 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2249.9375 (pause 1.26) 2251.1965 1786 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2251.1965 they waited until 2252.5849 1787 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2252.5849 (pause 0.41) 2252.9906 1788 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2252.9906 my- 2253.8252 1789 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2253.8252 (pause 0.64) 2254.4641 1790 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2254.4641 the- 2254.8045 1791 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2254.8045 (pause 0.14) 2254.9490 1792 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2254.9490 yeah, the spring semester of my senior year, 2257.3644 1793 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2257.3644 (pause 0.45) 2257.8109 1794 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2257.8109 to basically be like, 2259.1445 1795 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2259.1445 (pause 0.23) 2259.3729 1796 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2259.3729 yeah, 2259.8159 1797 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2259.8159 (pause 0.56) 2260.3755 1798 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2260.3755 you don't have 2261.3174 1799 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2261.3174 (pause 0.69) 2262.0028 1800 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2262.0028 the number of amount of credits to graduate. 2265.1724 1801 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2265.1724 (pause 0.68) 2265.8486 1802 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2265.8486 But I'm like, 2266.5247 1803 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2266.5247 (pause 0.15) 2266.6786 1804 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2266.6786 okay, pull up my degree evaluation let's- let's figure this out. 2270.6409 1805 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2270.6409 (pause 0.45) 2271.0885 1806 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2271.0885 So they pull up my degree evaluation 2273.0907 1807 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2273.0907 (pause 0.09) 2273.1805 1808 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2273.1805 and I pass. 2274.9960 1809 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2274.9960 (pause 0.84) 2275.8342 1810 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2275.8342 Fulfilled every core requirement. 2277.9698 1811 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2277.9698 (pause 0.92) 2278.8930 1812 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2278.8930 Everything for my major, which was English. Everything for my minor, which was visual performing arts and I took another one, which was communications. 2287.1965 1813 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2287.1965 (pause 0.39) 2287.5882 1814 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2287.5882 So I was like, so you want me to come back for a year and spend forty thousand dollars to take a bunch of intro level classes? 2293.4297 1815 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2293.4297 (pause 0.49) 2293.9193 1816 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2293.9193 And they're like, 2294.7015 1817 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2294.7015 (pause 1.70) 2296.3988 1818 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2296.3988 well, like, 2297.3127 1819 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2297.3127 (pause 0.24) 2297.5552 1820 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2297.5552 you can t- 2297.9282 1821 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2297.9282 (pause 0.12) 2298.0448 1822 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2298.0448 I'm like, 2298.3945 1823 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2298.3945 (pause 0.97) 2299.3597 1824 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2299.3597 there is no more classes I can take. 2301.6434 1825 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2301.6434 (pause 0.22) 2301.8672 1826 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2301.8672 If you see that like, 2303.0609 1827 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2303.0609 (pause 0.21) 2303.2661 1828 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2303.2661 I made five different classes for me to take. 2306.1606 1829 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2306.1606 (pause 0.41) 2306.5663 1830 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2306.5663 And they're just like, 2307.2890 1831 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2307.2890 (pause 0.89) 2308.1796 1832 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2308.1796 oh, well- I'm like yeah, no, I'm not- I'm not doing this. So, 2311.8202 1833 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2311.8202 (pause 0.35) 2312.1653 1834 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2312.1653 um, 2312.5663 1835 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2312.5663 (pause 0.44) 2313.0046 1836 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2313.0046 I guess, 2313.4009 1837 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2313.4009 (pause 0.23) 2313.6341 1838 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2313.6341 technically I got- 2314.4361 1839 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2314.4361 (pause 0.51) 2314.9443 1840 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2314.9443 I don't know. 2315.3453 1841 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2315.3453 (pause 0.65) 2315.9982 1842 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2315.9982 Kicked out, 2316.5064 1843 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2316.5064 (pause 0.32) 2316.8282 1844 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2316.8282 dropped out. 2317.4017 1845 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2317.4017 (pause 0.78) 2318.1839 1846 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2318.1839 Um, 2318.6445 1847 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2318.6445 (pause 1.79) 2320.4304 1848 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2320.4304 I think that was also another like 2322.9064 1849 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2322.9064 (pause 0.35) 2323.2549 1850 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2323.2549 moment for me. 2324.1222 1851 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2324.1222 (pause 0.48) 2324.5979 1852 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2324.5979 Like, okay, so what do I do now? 2326.4257 1853 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2326.4257 (pause 0.30) 2326.7241 1854 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2326.7241 I'm like, 2327.1578 1855 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2327.1578 (pause 0.35) 2327.5122 1856 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2327.5122 am I a failure? 2328.5147 1857 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2328.5147 (pause 0.23) 2328.7420 1858 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2328.7420 I'm like, 2329.2409 1859 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2329.2409 (pause 0.66) 2329.8984 1860 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2329.8984 I don't know if I'm a failure, I just don't w- wanna spend that like- 2333.1811 1861 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2333.1811 (pause 0.53) 2333.7080 1862 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2333.7080 I could go back, 2334.5567 1863 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2334.5567 (pause 0.18) 2334.7327 1864 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2334.7327 but it's like, 2335.3342 1865 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2335.3342 (pause 1.39) 2336.7284 1866 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2336.7284 no. C- also like at that time like, I felt like 2340.1258 1867 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2340.1258 (pause 0.36) 2340.4809 1868 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2340.4809 my spirit calling for something else. Like, 2343.1845 1869 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2343.1845 (pause 1.79) 2344.9713 1870 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2344.9713 in college- 2345.7539 1871 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2345.7539 (pause 0.08) 2345.8307 1872 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2345.8307 college take- took 2347.0043 1873 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2347.0043 (pause 0.20) 2347.2015 1874 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2347.2015 a lot- a lot of time. 2348.8301 1875 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2348.8301 (pause 0.34) 2349.1714 1876 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2349.1714 Also like, personal things that I went through in college, I ended up losing my best friend in college. 2353.3482 1877 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2353.3482 (pause 0.32) 2353.6653 1878 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2353.6653 Um, 2354.2062 1879 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2354.2062 (pause 0.95) 2355.1527 1880 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2355.1527 my junior year, 2356.2718 1881 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2356.2718 (pause 0.23) 2356.5003 1882 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2356.5003 uh, spring semester I had to go get a pacemaker. 2359.2969 1883 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2359.2969 (pause 0.34) 2359.6373 1884 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2359.6373 Literally came out of surgery, went 2361.8428 1885 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2361.8428 (pause 0.22) 2362.0667 1886 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2362.0667 passed all my finals. 2363.5023 1887 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2363.5023 (pause 0.35) 2363.8474 1888 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2363.8474 Like- (laughing) 2364.4308 1889 ROC_int_01 2364.7121 Mm. 2364.9856 1890 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2364.9845 like, 2365.2922 1891 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2365.5207 I'm like, 2365.8891 1892 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2365.8891 (pause 0.14) 2366.0336 1893 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2366.0336 okay- nah, no you need to- you need to take some time, figure out what exactly you want to do in life. 2371.7352 1894 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2371.7352 (pause 0.59) 2372.3274 1895 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2372.3274 And I'm like, I want to help 2374.2905 1896 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2374.2905 (pause 0.15) 2374.4444 1897 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2374.4444 my community. I wanna help 2376.0018 1898 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2376.0018 (pause 0.70) 2376.7059 1899 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2376.7059 that place 2377.4415 1900 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2377.4415 (pause 0.31) 2377.7492 1901 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2377.7492 ten miles away. 2378.6352 1902 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2378.6352 (pause 0.62) 2379.2553 1903 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2379.2553 So, how do I do that? 2380.7055 1904 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2380.7055 (pause 0.59) 2381.2930 1905 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2381.2930 And, um, 2382.2676 1906 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2382.2676 (pause 1.06) 2383.3295 1907 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2383.3295 by this time, I was on rock bottom, 2385.2156 1908 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2385.2156 (pause 0.16) 2385.3764 1909 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2385.3764 and our executive directer /RD-NAME-3/, 2388.1892 1910 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2388.1892 (pause 0.66) 2388.8463 1911 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2388.8463 she was like, 2389.6186 1912 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2389.6186 (pause 1.10) 2390.7191 1913 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2390.7191 n- this is the universe working I swear. Like, (laughing) 2393.5448 1914 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2393.5448 (pause 0.55) 2394.0997 1915 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2394.0997 me and her was having a meeting, she just called me up one day. She's like, come over, let's have a meeting. I'm like, alright. 2398.7801 1916 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2398.7801 (pause 0.41) 2399.1904 1917 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2399.1904 I'm thinking I'm in trouble. She's like, so 2401.0263 1918 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2401.0263 (pause 0.45) 2401.4788 1919 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2401.4788 what are you doing? I'm like, 2402.4626 1920 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2402.4626 (pause 0.92) 2403.3859 1921 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2403.3859 /man/ I just got kicked out of college. She was like, oh, 2405.5495 1922 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2405.5495 (pause 0.66) 2406.2116 1923 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2406.2116 great, so 2406.8924 1924 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2406.8924 (pause 0.51) 2407.4041 1925 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2407.4041 /RD-WORK-4/ 2408.2295 1926 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2408.2295 (pause 0.37) 2408.5979 1927 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2408.5979 they've been contacting me, and they want me to talk to you, and they really want you to join their program. I'm like, what's /RD-WORK-4/? 2415.0781 1928 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2415.0781 (pause 0.47) 2415.5491 1929 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2415.5491 And I found out that basically /RD-WORK-4/ would allow me to work in schools and really get to 2421.6563 1930 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2421.6563 (pause 0.68) 2422.3325 1931 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2422.3325 work with the community how I want. 2423.9103 1932 ROC_int_01 2424.0845 Mm. 2424.3550 1933 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2424.5721 So I'm like, 2425.4321 1934 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2425.4321 (pause 1.15) 2426.5839 1935 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2426.5839 no brainer, sign me up. She's like, well, deadline's in two days. So, 2429.8013 1936 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2429.8013 (pause 0.36) 2430.1603 1937 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2430.1603 2430.2955 1938 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2430.2955 (pause 0.10) 2430.3981 1939 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2430.3981 get to work. So, (laughing) 2432.2349 1940 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2432.2349 (pause 0.63) 2432.8683 1941 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2432.8683 I went and found a computer and was just like, frantically typing, now /RD-WORK-4/ is like, 2437.1150 1942 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2437.1150 (pause 0.77) 2437.8891 1943 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2437.8891 extensive. Like, it's basically- 2440.4957 1944 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2440.4957 (pause 1.26) 2441.7546 1945 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2441.7546 it's slightly less extensive than the Peace Corps. Cause I found out the Peace Corps, you gotta do like video interviews and Skype and [all that.] But, um, 2449.2456 1946 ROC_int_01 2447.9623 [Mm.] 2448.2365 1947 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2450.6864 I went for my interview for /RD-WORK-4/, 2453.0972 1948 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2453.0972 (pause 0.94) 2454.0344 1949 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2454.0344 left, 2454.6499 1950 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2454.6499 (pause 0.40) 2455.0451 1951 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2455.0451 literally got called a half an hour later and they're like, we want you. And I'm like, 2458.7848 1952 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2458.7848 (pause 0.30) 2459.0878 1953 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2459.0878 cool. 2459.5401 1954 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2459.5401 (pause 0.78) 2460.3188 1955 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2460.3188 And 2460.8799 1956 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2460.8799 (pause 1.51) 2462.3880 1957 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2462.3880 that really started like, 2463.7822 1958 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2463.7822 (pause 0.91) 2464.6915 1959 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2464.6915 me getting into the community. 2466.5957 1960 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2466.5957 (pause 0.15) 2466.7494 1961 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2466.7494 Um, 2467.3109 1962 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2467.3109 (pause 0.81) 2468.1222 1963 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2468.1222 from /RD-WORK-4/ and- and- and just really like again, 2471.6498 1964 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2471.6498 (pause 0.14) 2471.7893 1965 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2471.7893 taking advantage of the system. 2473.2409 1966 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2473.2409 (pause 0.56) 2473.8005 1967 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2473.8005 I think I'm like the only /RD-WORK-4/ in Rochester. 2476.5376 1968 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2476.5376 (pause 1.26) 2477.7966 1969 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2477.7966 I went to nine different sites. Like, 2479.8052 1970 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2479.8052 (pause 1.04) 2480.8403 1971 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2480.8403 I had my own site that I was at, 2482.6169 1972 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2482.6169 (pause 0.16) 2482.7801 1973 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2482.7801 from Monday through Friday. 2484.1155 1974 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2484.1155 (pause 0.10) 2484.2171 1975 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2484.2171 And then like, on the weekends, I would do Upward Bound at U of R. 2487.8801 1976 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2487.8801 (pause 0.36) 2488.2392 1977 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2488.2392 And then, um, I did some Upward Bound at MCC and then I hosted something at 2494.1459 1978 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2494.1459 (pause 0.76) 2494.9060 1979 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2494.9060 Monroe. And I'm just like going to all these different places cause I'm like, 2498.8077 1980 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2498.8077 (pause 2.04) 2500.8500 1981 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2500.8500 it's community service at the end of the day. Like, 2502.8271 1982 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2502.8271 (pause 0.16) 2502.9845 1983 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2502.9845 I wanna go 2503.7212 1984 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2503.7212 (pause 0.24) 2503.9641 1985 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2503.9641 everywhere. I wanna offer my service everywhere touch- excuse me, touch as many people as possible. 2508.8042 1986 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2508.8042 (pause 1.10) 2509.9035 1987 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2509.9035 And, um, 2510.7428 1988 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2510.7428 (pause 1.15) 2511.8946 1989 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2511.8946 it allowed me a lot of different connections that, 2514.0442 1990 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2514.0442 (pause 0.13) 2514.1701 1991 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2514.1701 I mean, I still have today that still allows me do certain things in the community. 2517.9179 1992 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2517.9179 (pause 0.32) 2518.2396 1993 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2518.2396 I'm like, alright, 2518.8878 1994 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2518.8878 (pause 0.36) 2519.2468 1995 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2519.2468 I want a event 2519.8903 1996 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2519.8903 (pause 0.41) 2520.3006 1997 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2520.3006 over here. 2520.8509 1998 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2520.8509 (pause 0.16) 2521.0082 1999 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2521.0082 Okay let's contact so and so. 2522.9154 2000 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2522.9154 (pause 0.44) 2523.3583 2001 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2523.3583 Um, 2523.8386 2002 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2523.8386 (pause 0.81) 2524.6500 2003 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2524.6500 yeah. 2524.9484 2004 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2524.9484 (pause 0.98) 2525.9323 2005 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2525.9323 I mean, now- 2526.5431 2006 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2526.5431 (pause 1.24) 2527.7881 2007 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2527.7881 um, 2528.4676 2008 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2528.4676 (pause 0.31) 2528.7801 2009 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2528.7801 I mean, now I'm at /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 2529.9552 2010 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2529.9552 (pause 0.23) 2530.1883 2011 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2530.1883 But, uh, 2530.8691 2012 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2530.8691 (pause 0.90) 2531.7691 2013 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2531.7691 earlier this year I did a contract at /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 2535.8060 2014 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2535.8060 (pause 0.39) 2536.1930 2015 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2536.1930 from September to June. 2538.0209 2016 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2538.0209 (pause 0.84) 2538.8648 2017 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2538.8648 Which I got from being in /RD-WORK-4/, [um,] 2541.3956 2018 ROC_int_01 2540.9427 [Mm-hm.] 2541.3592 2019 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2542.1697 doing music integration. 2543.9975 2020 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2543.9975 (pause 0.63) 2544.6270 2021 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2544.6270 And 2545.1213 2022 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2545.1213 (pause 1.06) 2546.1833 2023 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2546.1833 yeah. I'm like it- it- it was- it was nice, 2548.3842 2024 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2548.3842 (pause 0.36) 2548.7479 2025 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2548.7479 it was really nice. 2549.3914 2026 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2549.3914 (pause 0.49) 2549.8856 2027 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2549.8856 But I was really looking for- My thing was, what I started realizing, 2553.2651 2028 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2553.2651 (pause 0.21) 2553.4749 2029 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2553.4749 um, as in /RD-WORK-4/ is like, 2555.0696 2030 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2555.0696 (pause 0.78) 2555.8530 2031 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2555.8530 you make progress with kids, 2557.4197 2032 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2557.4197 (pause 0.52) 2557.9408 2033 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2557.9408 but then like, something may happen at home, 2560.3189 2034 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2560.3189 (pause 0.41) 2560.7292 2035 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2560.7292 that you have no idea about. And they come the next day and it's just like, yo what's going on? 2565.9645 2036 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2565.9645 (pause 0.82) 2566.7805 2037 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2566.7805 Something coulda happened. 2568.0908 2038 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2568.0908 (pause 0.67) 2568.7576 2039 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2568.7576 Um, at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ I'm allowed to- I have that connection with the home, the school, the student, the parent and it's like that full circle. 2576.3139 2040 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2576.3139 (pause 0.50) 2576.8128 2041 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2576.8128 So I feel like right now, I'm finally at that place where I'm- 2579.5872 2042 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2579.5872 (pause 1.49) 2581.0793 2043 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2581.0793 this is the job that I want. Like, this is how I feel like I can 2584.4401 2044 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2584.4401 (pause 0.69) 2585.1349 2045 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2585.1349 really 2585.8017 2046 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2585.8017 (pause 0.29) 2586.0955 2047 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2586.0955 make some type of 2587.3918 2048 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2587.3918 (pause 0.38) 2587.7683 2049 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2587.7683 impact or change amongst these 2589.8713 2050 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2589.8713 (pause 0.76) 2590.6313 2051 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2590.6313 youth. 2591.0510 2052 ROC_int_01 2591.4333 Yeah, /I know/. 2592.1182 2053 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2591.9742 And then with it being a all male school and 2594.9340 2054 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2595.5495 kids that 2596.1277 2055 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2596.1277 (pause 0.59) 2596.7152 2056 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2596.7152 are like me, 2597.5313 2057 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2597.5313 (pause 0.54) 2598.0675 2058 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2598.0675 I'm like, yo look, 2599.0607 2059 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2599.0607 (pause 0.94) 2600.0026 2060 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2600.0026 I'm a living example. [Like- (laughing)] 2601.7506 2061 ROC_int_01 2601.6288 [] 2602.1950 2062 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2602.0815 [like] it's- it's not easy, 2603.9288 2063 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2604.0564 but it can be done. 2605.2565 2064 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2605.2565 (pause 0.35) 2605.6109 2065 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2605.6109 And 2606.0306 2066 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2606.0306 (pause 1.43) 2607.4609 2067 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2607.4609 yeah it's [like], 2608.6593 2068 ROC_int_01 2608.4550 [Yeah.] 2608.9419 2069 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2609.1676 school 2609.8064 2070 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2609.8064 (pause 0.21) 2610.0209 2071 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2610.0209 job-ish 2610.9208 2072 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2610.9208 (pause 0.62) 2611.5445 2073 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2611.5445 area. 2611.9921 2074 ROC_int_01 2612.1273 Mm-hm, 2612.5563 2075 ROC_int_01 2612.5563 (pause 0.48) 2613.0413 2076 ROC_int_01 2613.0413 that's cool. 2613.8246 2077 ROC_int_01 2613.8246 (pause 0.61) 2614.4308 2078 ROC_int_01 2614.4308 Um, 2614.9904 2079 ROC_int_01 2614.9904 (pause 0.78) 2615.7737 2080 ROC_int_01 2615.7737 okay, great. [So, I have] a- like 2618.2311 2081 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2617.1400 [] 2617.7135 2082 ROC_int_01 2618.7055 a couple more questions. [Um,] 2620.4401 2083 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2619.9972 [Mm-hm.] 2620.3749 2084 ROC_int_01 2620.6127 that are more so geared toward, like, 2622.8415 2085 ROC_int_01 2622.8415 (pause 0.16) 2623.0007 2086 ROC_int_01 2623.0007 your thoughts about Rochester. 2624.5882 2087 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2624.5975 [Mm-hm.] 2624.9473 2088 ROC_int_01 2624.7794 [And] sort of how it's changing, 2626.4907 2089 ROC_int_01 2626.8451 the things that you like, 2628.1647 2090 ROC_int_01 2628.1647 (pause 0.35) 2628.5144 2091 ROC_int_01 2628.5144 what you wanna see improved, 2630.1266 2092 ROC_int_01 2630.1266 (pause 0.40) 2630.5229 2093 ROC_int_01 2630.5229 those sorts of [things.] 2631.5488 2094 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2631.3343 [Mkay.] 2631.6780 2095 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2631.8565 So I got a lot about [Rochester], 2633.4714 2096 ROC_int_01 2632.9710 [Ooh], tell [me. ] 2634.8688 2097 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2633.9016 [I got a lot about Rochester.] 2635.2500 2098 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2635.6510 Um, 2636.2105 2099 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2636.2105 (pause 3.31) 2639.5212 2100 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2639.5212 growing up as a kid, I would say, 2642.0147 2101 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2642.0147 (pause 0.54) 2642.5556 2102 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2642.5556 from like, 2643.5861 2103 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2643.5861 (pause 0.50) 2644.0897 2104 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2644.0897 I guess like, 2644.8964 2105 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2644.8964 (pause 0.80) 2645.6984 2106 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2645.6984 three 2646.4358 2107 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2646.4358 (pause 0.13) 2646.5683 2108 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2646.5683 to like nine, 2648.0380 2109 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2648.0380 (pause 0.33) 2648.3644 2110 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2648.3644 Rochester was- 2649.5255 2111 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2649.5255 (pause 0.65) 2650.1736 2112 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2650.1736 it was fun. I remember like mid-town downtown used to be booming. McCurdy's, you had Sibley's [like], 2656.6647 2113 ROC_int_01 2656.5037 [/?/] 2656.6782 2114 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2657.3067 it was like the place to be. 2658.6216 2115 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2658.6216 (pause 0.50) 2659.1252 2116 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2659.1252 Um, 2659.7302 2117 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2659.7302 (pause 0.93) 2660.6582 2118 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2660.6582 I remember like all the festivals, all- all of that stuff. 2663.8523 2119 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2663.8523 (pause 0.49) 2664.3419 2120 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2664.3419 And then, 2665.3304 2121 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2665.3304 (pause 1.39) 2666.7188 2122 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2666.7188 I don't know exactly what happened, but then just 2669.5958 2123 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2669.5958 (pause 0.31) 2669.9035 2124 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2669.9035 stuff started shutting down. 2671.8375 2125 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2671.8375 (pause 0.21) 2672.0520 2126 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2672.0520 Um, 2672.6022 2127 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2672.6022 (pause 1.75) 2674.3508 2128 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2674.3508 I don't know if it was a lack of me not paying attention, 2677.2838 2129 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2677.2838 (pause 0.85) 2678.1359 2130 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2678.1359 or if this was already just, 2680.5588 2131 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2680.5588 (pause 0.15) 2680.7124 2132 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2680.7124 uh, uh, a constant thing, but I do remember like being around like eleven and start, 2686.0477 2133 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2686.0477 (pause 1.17) 2687.2134 2134 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2687.2134 realizing the violence and the crime rate started going up. 2690.5836 2135 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2690.5836 (pause 0.74) 2691.3250 2136 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2691.3250 Um, 2691.8006 2137 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2691.8006 (pause 0.30) 2692.0990 2138 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2692.0990 and I think that had a lot to do with a lot of things 2695.4190 2139 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2695.4190 (pause 0.62) 2696.0427 2140 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2696.0427 shutting down. 2697.0778 2141 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2697.0778 (pause 0.57) 2697.6514 2142 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2697.6514 And 2698.2156 2143 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2698.2156 (pause 1.11) 2699.3207 2144 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2699.3207 I also remember 2700.3279 2145 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2700.3279 (pause 0.46) 2700.7837 2146 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2700.7837 being like fourteen, fifteen and all of a sudden they're like- 2703.6420 2147 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2703.6420 (pause 0.74) 2704.3834 2148 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2704.3834 it- 2704.5187 2149 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2704.5187 (pause 0.79) 2705.3067 2150 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2705.3067 it felt like it was a war on the youth. Like, 2707.7815 2151 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2707.7815 (pause 0.23) 2708.0100 2152 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2708.0100 realistically, [you're like,] 2709.2422 2153 ROC_int_01 2708.8273 [Mm.] 2709.0779 2154 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2709.5383 oh, 2709.9276 2155 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2709.9276 (pause 0.45) 2710.3729 2156 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2710.3729 now you got a curfew. I'm like, 2712.0487 2157 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2712.0487 (pause 0.16) 2712.2119 2158 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2712.2119 my parents don't give me a curfew. What do you [mean? Like] 2715.3018 2159 ROC_int_01 2714.7518 [I remember those days.] 2715.8938 2160 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2715.8659 2716.4207 2161 ROC_int_01 2716.7052 [/ do.] 2717.1528 2162 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2716.7844 [I'm like,] 2717.1482 2163 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2717.5025 what are you talking about? And then like, they're like, okay, the curfew is non-constitutional so we can't pass it, but still. Like, 2725.1439 2164 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2725.1439 (pause 0.68) 2725.8282 2165 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2725.8282 we were kicked out of 2726.8960 2166 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2726.8960 (pause 0.39) 2727.2830 2167 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2727.2830 everything. [Like,] 2728.4580 2168 ROC_int_01 2728.0402 [Mm-hm.] 2728.3885 2169 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2728.9150 couldn't go to the mall if you were a certain age, 2731.3572 2170 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2731.3572 (pause 0.43) 2731.7862 2171 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2731.7862 um, couldn't go to the movies, couldn't do this, couldn't do that. And I'm just like, 2735.9735 2172 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2735.9735 (pause 0.62) 2736.5936 2173 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2736.5936 so what am I supposed to do? 2738.2105 2174 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2738.2105 (pause 0.28) 2738.4903 2175 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2738.4903 And like, I'm not a kid that cause trouble, but like, 2741.1994 2176 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2741.1994 (pause 0.63) 2741.8336 2177 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2741.8336 you got nothing for me to do. So, pretty much nothing but trouble to do. Like, 2745.9778 2178 ROC_int_01 2746.1503 Mm-hm. 2746.6492 2179 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2746.8870 um, 2747.4139 2180 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2747.4139 (pause 0.81) 2748.2206 2181 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2748.2206 I remember in that phase, 2750.0100 2182 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2750.0100 (pause 0.14) 2750.1499 2183 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2750.1499 that was a phase where I was like, no, I don't wanna be here. I gotta get out. I wanna get out. I wanna move. Like, 2756.6628 2184 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2756.6628 (pause 0.20) 2756.8587 2185 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2756.8587 that's the- 2757.5348 2186 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2757.5348 (pause 0.50) 2758.0337 2187 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2758.0337 that's the 2758.7052 2188 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2758.7052 (pause 0.22) 2758.9290 2189 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2758.9290 end goal. Like, 2759.9968 2190 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2759.9968 (pause 0.43) 2760.4304 2191 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2760.4304 get Rochester, Rochester don't got nothing for me. 2763.3856 2192 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2763.3856 (pause 1.28) 2764.6679 2193 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2764.6679 And, 2765.4233 2194 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2765.4233 (pause 2.54) 2767.9587 2195 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2767.9587 I had the opportunity, 2769.5907 2196 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2769.5907 (pause 0.62) 2770.2062 2197 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2770.2062 probably around when I was like 2771.6564 2198 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2771.6564 (pause 0.63) 2772.2906 2199 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2772.2906 seventeen-ish 2773.3759 2200 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2773.3759 (pause 0.61) 2773.9867 2201 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2773.9867 to 2774.5509 2202 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2774.5509 (pause 0.30) 2774.8540 2203 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2774.8540 2775.3436 2204 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2775.3436 (pause 0.10) 2775.4415 2205 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2775.4415 help open a downtown youth art center. 2778.6030 2206 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2778.6030 (pause 0.45) 2779.0553 2207 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2779.0553 Cause also with 2780.2525 2208 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2780.2525 (pause 0.57) 2780.8260 2209 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2780.8260 like, the war on like 2782.0384 2210 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2782.0384 (pause 0.36) 2782.3974 2211 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2782.3974 youth, like 2783.1621 2212 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2783.1621 (pause 0.53) 2783.6937 2213 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2783.6937 arts was 2784.8315 2214 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2784.8315 (pause 0.78) 2785.6090 2215 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2785.6090 getting shut down. Art programs, art teachers were getting fired, or moved, or 2790.2952 2216 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2790.2952 (pause 0.42) 2790.7149 2217 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2790.7149 all types of stuff. 2791.8142 2218 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2791.8142 (pause 0.40) 2792.2152 2219 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2792.2152 And then, um, 2793.2550 2220 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2793.2550 (pause 3.38) 2796.6356 2221 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2796.6356 it's like, okay. 2797.6790 2222 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2797.6790 (pause 0.91) 2798.5929 2223 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2798.5929 Then I started /realizing/ like okay so this is- 2800.5606 2224 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2800.5606 (pause 0.64) 2801.2041 2225 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2801.2041 is this part of the recession? Is this- 2803.0366 2226 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2803.0366 (pause 0.41) 2803.4458 2227 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2803.4458 what is all of this coming from? 2804.9519 2228 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2804.9519 (pause 0.39) 2805.3436 2229 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2805.3436 Um, but then I had the opportunity to join, um, it was like a downtown like initiative 2809.9680 2230 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2809.9680 (pause 0.42) 2810.3924 2231 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2810.3924 where a lot of different like business owners downtown are like, okay, we're gonna try and like, 2815.4190 2232 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2815.4190 (pause 0.94) 2816.3551 2233 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2816.3551 get something for the youth to do. We're gonna try and 2819.6051 2234 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2819.6051 (pause 0.67) 2820.2719 2235 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2820.2719 revitalize downtown a bit. 2822.4064 2236 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2822.4064 (pause 0.46) 2822.8633 2237 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2822.8633 And, um, together we brainstormed, and opened, 2826.6916 2238 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2826.6916 (pause 0.15) 2826.8454 2239 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2826.8454 uh, what was called the /RD-WORK-2/. 2828.2805 2240 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2828.2805 (pause 1.17) 2829.4462 2241 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2829.4462 And the idea of the /RD-WORK-2/ was 2831.5538 2242 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2831.5538 (pause 0.26) 2831.8149 2243 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2831.8149 it's a drop-in center. So, 2833.4609 2244 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2833.4609 (pause 0.97) 2834.4297 2245 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2834.4297 any kids that's outside and that don't got nothing to do, or 2838.0108 2246 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2838.0108 (pause 0.40) 2838.4071 2247 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2838.4071 up at /RD-ADDRESS-4/ and the police are harassing, just come down to the center. 2842.3974 2248 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2842.3974 (pause 0.34) 2842.7331 2249 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2842.7331 And, um, 2843.6564 2250 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2843.6564 (pause 0.63) 2844.2906 2251 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2844.2906 we'll get you in some type of art. Whatever you're interested in. whether it be 2847.4229 2252 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2847.4229 (pause 0.41) 2847.8379 2253 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2847.8379 music recording, poetry, dance, singing, visual arts, screen printing, 2853.6840 2254 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2853.6840 (pause 0.58) 2854.2669 2255 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2854.2669 all that type of stuff. 2855.3250 2256 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2855.3250 (pause 0.17) 2855.4952 2257 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2855.4952 Um, 2855.9035 2258 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2855.9035 (pause 1.06) 2856.9655 2259 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2856.9655 and it ran- it ran for three years. And 2859.2970 2260 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2859.2970 (pause 0.53) 2859.8285 2261 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2859.8285 I think it was pretty successful. 2861.4326 2262 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2861.4326 (pause 0.41) 2861.8429 2263 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2861.8429 Um, 2862.3045 2264 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2862.3045 (pause 0.33) 2862.6356 2265 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2862.6356 a lot of people that 2864.0800 2266 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2864.0800 (pause 0.78) 2864.8587 2267 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2864.8587 are doing a lot of different stuff in the community, I'd be like, oh yeah I know so and so from the /RD-WORK-2/. And I know that person from the /RD-WORK-2/, like, 2871.1742 2268 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2871.1742 (pause 0.38) 2871.5568 2269 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2871.5568 hey, 2872.0850 2270 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2872.0850 (pause 0.38) 2872.4674 2271 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2872.4674 da da da da da da, 2873.2647 2272 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2873.2647 (pause 0.68) 2873.9408 2273 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2873.9408 let's try and bring the /RD-WORK-2/ back. 2875.3992 2274 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2875.3992 (pause 0.10) 2875.4971 2275 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2875.4971 Um, 2875.9867 2276 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2875.9867 (pause 1.34) 2877.3250 2277 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2877.3250 and I think that- 2878.3741 2278 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2878.3741 (pause 0.23) 2878.6026 2279 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2878.6026 like, that really started like, 2880.2859 2280 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2880.2859 (pause 0.38) 2880.6671 2281 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2880.6671 kick-starting- it started something. 2882.6768 2282 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2882.6768 (pause 0.40) 2883.0778 2283 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2883.0778 Like, 2883.4555 2284 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2883.4555 (pause 0.49) 2883.9498 2285 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2883.9498 it was like okay, so you got this program, 2886.7429 2286 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2886.7429 (pause 0.32) 2887.0646 2287 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2887.0646 and it's not that it was like- 2888.5043 2288 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2888.5043 (pause 1.02) 2889.5255 2289 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2889.5255 I think we ended up serving 2891.8616 2290 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2891.8616 (pause 0.31) 2892.1693 2291 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2892.1693 probably like a hundred and fifty kids, 2894.6535 2292 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2894.6535 (pause 0.79) 2895.4462 2293 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2895.4462 which, 2895.8565 2294 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2895.8565 (pause 0.56) 2896.4161 2295 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2896.4161 isn't a lot, 2897.0922 2296 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2897.0922 (pause 0.70) 2897.7963 2297 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2897.7963 but it's, 2898.2859 2298 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2898.2859 (pause 0.23) 2898.5190 2299 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2898.5190 a lot. 2898.8874 2300 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2898.8874 (pause 0.43) 2899.3164 2301 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2899.3164 Like 2899.6135 2302 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2899.6135 (pause 0.17) 2899.7862 2303 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2899.7862 when you hold monthly shows and you got these kids coming up and performing on stage. And you got 2905.4470 2304 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2905.4470 (pause 0.37) 2905.8142 2305 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2905.8142 parents coming in and you got the news coming in and- and showing what's actually happening. 2910.2291 2306 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2910.2291 (pause 0.69) 2910.9154 2307 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2910.9154 And 2911.4982 2308 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2911.4982 (pause 0.13) 2911.6277 2309 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2911.6277 I think that also started like, 2913.9684 2310 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2913.9684 (pause 2.77) 2916.7335 2311 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2916.7335 something where like 2918.0256 2312 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2918.0256 (pause 0.15) 2918.1769 2313 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2918.1769 the art started just, 2919.7726 2314 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2919.7726 (pause 0.88) 2920.6492 2315 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2920.6492 getting more notice. 2921.8429 2316 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2921.8429 (pause 0.19) 2922.0294 2317 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2922.0294 Now also like, 2923.0693 2318 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2923.0693 (pause 0.57) 2923.6370 2319 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2923.6370 the arts in Rochester are always been a thing, 2925.9405 2320 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2925.9405 (pause 0.63) 2926.5746 2321 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2926.5746 but 2927.0036 2322 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2927.0036 (pause 0.92) 2927.9268 2323 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2927.9268 I realized that, 2929.4003 2324 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2929.4003 (pause 0.28) 2929.6789 2325 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2929.6789 from 2930.4670 2326 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2930.4670 (pause 0.41) 2930.8820 2327 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2930.8820 my age group, 2932.1037 2328 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2932.1037 (pause 0.50) 2932.6072 2329 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2932.6072 and where like 2933.7823 2330 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2933.7823 (pause 0.64) 2934.4211 2331 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2934.4211 a lot of people were doing it, there was like a gap. 2937.2690 2332 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2937.2690 (pause 1.01) 2938.2808 2333 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2938.2808 So like, I mean, I'm- 2939.9595 2334 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2939.9595 (pause 0.17) 2940.1320 2335 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2940.1320 I'm twenty-four. So right now that like- 2942.8120 2336 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2942.8120 (pause 0.21) 2943.0172 2337 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2943.0172 the people who are like, before me in like that- I would say like our age, 2947.0879 2338 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2947.0879 (pause 0.56) 2947.6473 2339 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2947.6473 wa- would be like, 2949.5218 2340 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2949.5218 (pause 1.36) 2950.8787 2341 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2950.8787 thirty, thirty-five-ish area. 2953.4013 2342 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2953.4013 (pause 0.78) 2954.1789 2343 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2954.1789 And 2954.7851 2344 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2954.7851 (pause 0.12) 2954.9016 2345 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2954.9016 it was just like a ga- like 2956.2539 2346 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2956.2539 (pause 0.32) 2956.5709 2347 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2956.5709 nobody was doing nothing with that. And then you have 2959.2335 2348 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2959.2335 (pause 0.31) 2959.5401 2349 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2959.5401 the older people who 2960.7431 2350 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2960.7431 (pause 0.59) 2961.3353 2351 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2961.3353 have a thriving thing, but you know they're like, 2963.3823 2352 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2963.3823 (pause 0.43) 2963.8159 2353 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2963.8159 older. So they kind of have their own little circle. 2965.8571 2354 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2965.8571 (pause 0.45) 2966.3094 2355 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2966.3094 Um, 2966.7617 2356 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2966.7617 (pause 1.06) 2967.8249 2357 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2967.8249 but with 2968.5896 2358 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2968.5896 (pause 0.13) 2968.7202 2359 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2968.7202 the youth, 2969.3683 2360 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2969.3683 (pause 0.34) 2969.7087 2361 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2969.7087 we started really just 2971.4899 2362 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2971.4899 (pause 0.15) 2971.6426 2363 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2971.6426 I guess, making a loud noise to where we started getting mentors. 2974.4450 2364 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2974.4450 (pause 0.34) 2974.7854 2365 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2974.7854 And then we also started getting older and taking more leadership positions. 2978.5239 2366 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2978.5239 (pause 0.35) 2978.8783 2367 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2978.8783 So, um, 2979.7643 2368 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2979.7643 (pause 0.69) 2980.4590 2369 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2980.4590 when I was eighteen, I started being a teaching artist. 2982.4594 2370 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2982.4594 (pause 0.39) 2982.8464 2371 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2982.8464 So I was going around and teaching at rec centers and 2986.4963 2372 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2986.4963 (pause 0.48) 2986.9720 2373 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2986.9720 /RD-WORK-5/, and 2988.8511 2374 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2988.8511 (pause 0.35) 2989.2043 2375 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2989.2043 anywhere I could really 2990.4167 2376 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2990.4167 (pause 0.44) 2990.8550 2377 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2990.8550 teach. 2991.3493 2378 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2991.3493 (pause 0.38) 2991.7270 2379 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2991.7270 So at that point, I became- I started becoming like a- a- a youth leader. 2995.9644 2380 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2995.9644 (pause 0.43) 2996.3980 2381 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2996.3980 Um, 2996.9110 2382 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2996.9110 (pause 1.06) 2997.9741 2383 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2997.9741 and 2998.4870 2384 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2998.4870 (pause 0.29) 2998.7808 2385 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 2998.7808 encouraging and bringing up more and more and more artists. 3001.7033 2386 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3001.7033 (pause 0.38) 3002.0810 2387 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3002.0810 And, 3002.6825 2388 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3002.6825 (pause 0.62) 3003.3073 2389 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3003.3073 then, 3004.0534 2390 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3004.0534 (pause 0.84) 3004.8927 2391 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3004.8927 again with rock bottom, 3006.4501 2392 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3006.4501 (pause 0.40) 3006.8511 2393 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3006.8511 um, 3007.3827 2394 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3007.3827 (pause 0.65) 3008.0343 2395 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3008.0343 really just, 3008.9389 2396 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3008.9389 (pause 0.28) 3009.2187 2397 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3009.2187 doing a lot of different community shows. And different things like that. 3012.8698 2398 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3012.8698 (pause 1.17) 3014.0390 2399 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3014.0390 Now it seems like the arts are just like 3016.0394 2400 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3016.0394 (pause 0.17) 3016.2119 2401 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3016.2119 on- 3016.6833 2402 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3016.6833 (pause 0.21) 3016.8913 2403 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3016.8913 on fire like, 3018.3243 2404 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3018.3243 (pause 0.12) 3018.4396 2405 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3018.4396 here in Rochester 3019.8105 2406 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3019.8105 (pause 0.69) 3020.5006 2407 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3020.5006 it's like, 3021.5171 2408 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3021.5171 (pause 1.14) 3022.6595 2409 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3022.6595 you go to a open mic, 3023.8072 2410 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3023.8072 (pause 0.13) 3023.9325 2411 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3023.9325 and you see concert- 3025.3069 2412 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3025.3069 (pause 0.35) 3025.6566 2413 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3025.6566 really concert level talent. 3027.0182 2414 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3027.0182 (pause 0.21) 3027.2327 2415 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3027.2327 I've 3027.6710 2416 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3027.6710 (pause 0.17) 3027.8435 2417 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3027.8435 been to open mics and other places, and I'm just like 3030.7765 2418 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3030.7765 (pause 0.69) 3031.4619 2419 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3031.4619 this is not like home. It's not that it's bad, it's just like 3035.3077 2420 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3035.3077 (pause 0.21) 3035.5175 2421 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3035.5175 the quality is just completely different. 3037.8711 2422 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3037.8711 (pause 0.57) 3038.4400 2423 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3038.4400 And 3039.1021 2424 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3039.1021 (pause 1.75) 3040.8507 2425 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3040.8507 around that time is where I started like, really being like, yo Rochester 3045.0695 2426 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3045.0695 (pause 0.43) 3045.5031 2427 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3045.5031 is really dope. It's just- it's a diamond in the rough. Like we have 3049.1589 2428 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3049.1589 (pause 0.54) 3049.6986 2429 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3049.6986 so much talent, so much potential. 3051.9088 2430 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3051.9088 (pause 0.67) 3052.5756 2431 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3052.5756 And it's just a matter of 3054.3382 2432 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3054.3382 (pause 0.70) 3055.0423 2433 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3055.0423 figuring out how to- 3057.2420 2434 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3057.2420 (pause 0.81) 3058.0534 2435 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3058.0534 how to harness that. 3058.9813 2436 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3058.9813 (pause 0.70) 3059.6854 2437 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3059.6854 And 3060.2916 2438 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3060.2916 (pause 0.53) 3060.8231 2439 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3060.8231 what 3061.3873 2440 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3061.3873 (pause 0.27) 3061.6613 2441 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3061.6613 I started realizing was 3063.2374 2442 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3063.2374 (pause 0.56) 3063.7969 2443 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3063.7969 the reason why it was hard to harness, is because a lot of people had the crab in the bucket mentality. Yo, 3069.0415 2444 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3069.0415 (pause 0.39) 3069.4285 2445 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3069.4285 I wanna be the one to make it out. 3070.7714 2446 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3070.7714 (pause 0.38) 3071.1491 2447 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3071.1491 I don't wanna help you make it out. 3072.4921 2448 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3072.4921 (pause 0.15) 3072.6459 2449 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3072.6459 I don't want to tell you that you good, or that you dope or 3075.1121 2450 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3075.1121 (pause 0.15) 3075.2634 2451 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3075.2634 that I see potential in you. 3076.6642 2452 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3076.6642 (pause 0.33) 3076.9906 2453 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3076.9906 Because 3077.7087 2454 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3077.7087 (pause 1.22) 3078.9257 2455 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3078.9257 then that mean less opportunities for me. 3080.8690 2456 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3080.8690 (pause 0.62) 3081.4938 2457 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3081.4938 So, 3082.0394 2458 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3082.0394 (pause 0.22) 3082.2632 2459 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3082.2632 I'm like, 3082.7388 2460 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3082.7388 (pause 0.58) 3083.3217 2461 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3083.3217 that's not- that's not the way. 3084.9117 2462 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3084.9117 (pause 1.10) 3086.0110 2463 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3086.0110 So really just starting to really like, 3087.8715 2464 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3087.8715 (pause 1.88) 3089.7553 2465 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3089.7553 bri- literally bring people together. Connecting people together. Um, 3093.8109 2466 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3093.8109 (pause 1.60) 3095.4149 2467 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3095.4149 and 3096.2822 2468 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3096.2822 (pause 0.50) 3096.7858 2469 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3096.7858 yeah. Now it's ye- it's- 3098.5768 2470 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3098.5768 (pause 0.11) 3098.6825 2471 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3098.6825 it is what it is [right now.] Um, 3100.5709 2472 ROC_int_01 3099.7246 [Mm-hm.] 3100.1475 2473 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3101.8299 I don't know. 3102.2729 2474 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3102.2729 (pause 0.16) 3102.4361 2475 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3102.4361 /When/ you go like, 3103.2556 2476 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3103.2556 (pause 1.07) 3104.3281 2477 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3104.3281 Monday nights, they got a open mic over here at Clarissa's. Uh, Tuesday nights they got a open mic out in 3111.1394 2478 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3111.1394 (pause 0.55) 3111.6943 2479 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3111.6943 Henrietta. 3112.6316 2480 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3112.6316 (pause 0.15) 3112.7854 2481 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3112.7854 Uh, Wednesday nights, they got a open mic, 3115.4806 2482 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3115.4806 (pause 0.76) 3116.2395 2483 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3116.2395 um, I think somewhere out in like, East Rochester. Thursday nights they got a open mic 3120.6026 2484 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3120.6026 (pause 0.54) 3121.1449 2485 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3121.1449 on 3121.7639 2486 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3121.7639 (pause 0.12) 3121.8851 2487 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3121.8851 East Main, like. 3122.9063 2488 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3122.9063 (pause 0.40) 3123.3026 2489 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3123.3026 It's always something to do, and then it's- 3125.5688 2490 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3125.5688 (pause 0.84) 3126.4128 2491 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3126.4128 a lot of people are putting on a lot more events. 3129.2374 2492 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3129.2374 (pause 0.55) 3129.7876 2493 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3129.7876 Bringing a lot more artists together. 3131.3403 2494 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3131.3403 (pause 0.18) 3131.5222 2495 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3131.5222 Um, 3131.9978 2496 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3131.9978 (pause 0.09) 3132.0910 2497 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3132.0910 ButaPub has been like 3133.5865 2498 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3133.5865 (pause 0.64) 3134.2302 2499 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3134.2302 the hip-hop place, you can go there, you get a nice hip-hop show, no drama. 3138.4641 2500 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3138.4641 (pause 0.45) 3138.9164 2501 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3138.9164 Um, 3139.5505 2502 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3139.5505 (pause 0.80) 3140.3514 2503 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3140.3514 I mean, me personally, I've put on a few shows. 3142.7449 2504 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3142.7449 (pause 0.08) 3142.8274 2505 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3142.8274 I guess, 3143.3450 2506 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3143.3450 (pause 0.23) 3143.5735 2507 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3143.5735 I would say my favorite show would be, uh, the community experience that I put on last year 3148.1449 2508 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3148.1449 (pause 0.50) 3148.6409 2509 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3148.6409 with our executive director. 3150.1423 2510 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3150.1423 (pause 0.52) 3150.6646 2511 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3150.6646 Um, 3151.1355 2512 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3151.1355 (pause 0.10) 3151.2323 2513 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3151.2323 where it was basically, 3152.3141 2514 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3152.3141 (pause 1.18) 3153.4892 2515 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3153.4892 everybody comes in for free. 3154.8834 2516 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3154.8834 (pause 0.14) 3155.0250 2517 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3155.0250 I invite a bunch of artists, 3156.5154 2518 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3156.5154 (pause 0.22) 3156.7345 2519 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3156.7345 and literally people get on stage and just like, freestyle live collab. So you'll have a person spitting, you'll have a person playing. /And you-/ 3164.4820 2520 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3164.4820 (pause 0.44) 3164.9203 2521 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3164.9203 dancers just jump up and get in the mix. And everybody's just sharing the space and 3169.2568 2522 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3169.2568 (pause 0.38) 3169.6333 2523 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3169.6333 seeing what it is. 3170.6871 2524 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3170.6871 (pause 0.43) 3171.1161 2525 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3171.1161 Um, 3171.6244 2526 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3171.6244 (pause 1.07) 3172.6968 2527 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3172.6968 right now, 3173.5688 2528 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3173.5688 (pause 0.005) 3173.5735 2529 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3173.5735 (pause 1.09) 3174.6646 2530 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3174.6646 right now my goal is to have 3176.9622 2531 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3176.9622 (pause 0.63) 3177.5917 2532 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3177.5917 like, a- 3178.2306 2533 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3178.2306 (pause 1.11) 3179.3450 2534 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3179.3450 So we have like music festivals and everything here. 3181.7965 2535 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3181.7965 (pause 0.19) 3181.9830 2536 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3181.9830 But I wanna have one dedicated just for, 3185.3310 2537 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3185.3310 (pause 0.10) 3185.4336 2538 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3185.4336 like, 3185.9838 2539 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3185.9838 (pause 0.45) 3186.4314 2540 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3186.4314 local artists. I would probably make it like, a tri-city type of thing, Syracuse, Buffalo, 3191.7834 2541 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3191.7834 (pause 0.16) 3191.9441 2542 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3191.9441 Rochester. 3192.6646 2543 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3192.6646 (pause 0.43) 3193.0936 2544 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3193.0936 But really like, 3194.2395 2545 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3194.2395 (pause 2.02) 3196.2632 2546 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3196.2632 pouring into 3197.5082 2547 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3197.5082 (pause 0.44) 3197.9512 2548 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3197.9512 local 3198.6086 2549 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3198.6086 (pause 0.26) 3198.8651 2550 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3198.8651 artists like, 3199.6193 2551 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3199.6193 (pause 1.48) 3201.1021 2552 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3201.1021 they got all these people headlining, 3202.7481 2553 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3202.7481 (pause 0.50) 3203.2444 2554 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3203.2444 and 3203.6154 2555 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3203.6154 (pause 0.23) 3203.8486 2556 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3203.8486 not that, 3204.2776 2557 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3204.2776 (pause 0.14) 3204.4175 2558 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3204.4175 you know, they famous so yeah. You know they got talent, but like, realistically 3208.5197 2559 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3208.5197 (pause 2.14) 3210.6599 2560 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3210.6599 I know people that's better than 'em that lives right here, like. 3213.6710 2561 ROC_int_01 3213.7775 Mm-hm, 3214.2259 2562 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3214.4157 [] 3214.8554 2563 ROC_int_01 3214.5906 [mm-hm.] 3215.0681 2564 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3215.3593 Danielle Ponder, oh my [gosh.] (whispered) 3217.5386 2565 ROC_int_01 3217.0178 [Incredible.] 3217.8198 2566 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3218.1556 [Oh] 3218.7186 2567 ROC_int_01 3218.5985 [] 3219.4159 2568 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3219.1157 [my] g- like- 3219.8673 2569 ROC_int_01 3219.8201 Every [single time.] 3221.0114 2570 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3220.4394 [like-] (laughing). 3221.1771 2571 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3221.5408 like, 3221.8103 2572 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3221.8103 (pause 1.31) 3223.1204 2573 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3223.1204 absolutely amazing [like absolutely amazing.] 3226.1653 2574 ROC_int_01 3224.6524 [Mm-hm.] 3225.1161 2575 ROC_int_01 3225.1161 (pause 0.83) 3225.9508 2576 ROC_int_01 3225.9508 [Every] time [yeah.] 3226.9859 2577 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3226.8507 [And] then you got- you got Danielle Ponder, you got, um, Jimmie Highsmith. You got 3231.5451 2578 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3231.8762 David Haygood, like, 3232.9673 2579 ROC_int_01 3233.0652 Mm-hm. 3233.5268 2580 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3233.6854 and these people are 3235.0096 2581 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3235.0096 (pause 1.13) 3236.1369 2582 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3236.1369 top 3236.5006 2583 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3236.5006 (pause 0.15) 3236.6498 2584 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3236.6498 tier like, 3237.6850 2585 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3237.6850 (pause 1.15) 3238.8367 2586 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3238.8367 name me five people that's better than 'em, [like.] (laughing) 3241.8431 2587 ROC_int_01 3241.7126 [Mm-hm.] 3242.2208 2588 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3242.3887 And it's like I wanna- I wanna do something that really like, 3245.5736 2589 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3245.5736 (pause 1.05) 3246.6274 2590 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3246.6274 plays into that. 3247.5554 2591 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3247.5554 (pause 0.57) 3248.1242 2592 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3248.1242 Um, I don't really know how to do it. 3249.7656 2593 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3249.7656 (pause 0.21) 3249.9801 2594 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3249.9801 I don't know what's the first step. 3251.3556 2595 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3251.3556 (pause 0.56) 3251.9140 2596 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3251.9140 I don't know any of that, [but,] 3253.4808 2597 ROC_int_01 3253.2896 [Mm.] 3253.4528 2598 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3254.4926 I mean, 3254.9542 2599 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3254.9542 (pause 0.14) 3255.0895 2600 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3255.0895 I believe- 3255.7112 2601 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3255.7112 (pause 0.53) 3256.2365 2602 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3256.2365 believe in it. 3256.8054 2603 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3256.8054 (pause 0.24) 3257.0479 2604 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3257.0479 I believe it'll [happen.] 3258.1005 2605 ROC_int_01 3257.5964 [Yeah.] 3257.9787 2606 ROC_int_01 3258.7592 So, 3259.4236 2607 ROC_int_01 3259.4236 (pause 0.31) 3259.7372 2608 ROC_int_01 3259.7372 you're looking to stay in Rochester though, long term? Or are [you] 3263.7695 2609 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3263.6156 [] 3264.2964 2610 ROC_int_01 3264.3663 wanting to [move eventually?] 3265.9937 2611 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3265.0844 [I have-] I have- I have a love hate relationship in what I wanna do with life. 3269.7788 2612 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3270.0632 Um, 3270.5015 2613 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3270.5015 (pause 0.24) 3270.7394 2614 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3270.7394 because, 3271.6253 2615 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3271.6253 (pause 1.52) 3273.1454 2616 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3273.1454 I want to stay, 3274.3158 2617 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3274.3158 (pause 0.86) 3275.1726 2618 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3275.1726 but I know 3276.1239 2619 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3276.1239 (pause 0.16) 3276.2871 2620 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3276.2871 in order for me to 3277.8212 2621 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3277.8212 (pause 0.28) 3278.1009 2622 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3278.1009 do and build what I want to, 3279.8868 2623 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3279.8868 (pause 0.18) 3280.0687 2624 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3280.0687 I have to leave. 3281.0794 2625 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3281.0794 (pause 0.33) 3281.4058 2626 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3281.4058 I don't have my eyes set on like 3283.3315 2627 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3283.3315 (pause 0.12) 3283.4481 2628 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3283.4481 any particular place to move to. I'm not like, oh, 3286.2831 2629 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3286.2831 (pause 0.26) 3286.5384 2630 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3286.5384 I wanna go move to Atlanta, and I'm going to go to Atlanta, and I'm gonna make it. 3289.8864 2631 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3289.8864 (pause 0.37) 3290.2548 2632 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3290.2548 I feel like, 3290.9356 2633 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3290.9356 (pause 0.21) 3291.1408 2634 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3291.1408 I have to have literally like- 3292.8567 2635 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3292.8567 (pause 1.18) 3294.0399 2636 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3294.0399 I think the path that I have to take is I literally just have 3296.8932 2637 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3296.8932 (pause 0.17) 3297.0634 2638 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3297.0634 to- 3297.4765 2639 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3297.4765 (pause 0.26) 3297.7331 2640 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3297.7331 to travel 3298.4044 2641 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3298.4044 (pause 0.29) 3298.6935 2642 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3298.6935 to a [bunch of different places.] 3300.1052 2643 ROC_int_01 3299.1353 [Mm-hm.] 3299.7368 2644 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3300.5295 And, um, 3301.2336 2645 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3301.2336 (pause 1.13) 3302.3667 2646 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3302.3667 definitely, 3303.0568 2647 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3303.0568 (pause 1.80) 3304.8614 2648 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3304.8614 buying a house in Rochester. 3306.1612 2649 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3306.1612 (pause 0.21) 3306.3710 2650 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3306.3710 [??] um, 3307.4621 2651 ROC_int_01 3306.4176 [Mkay.] 3306.8792 2652 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3308.0963 want to, 3308.8750 2653 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3308.8750 (pause 0.67) 3309.5418 2654 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3309.5418 frequent Rochester, cause home- like, 3311.8021 2655 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3311.8021 (pause 1.37) 3313.1730 2656 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3313.1730 I've been a lot of places, but there's no pla- like there's literally no place like here. 3317.1598 2657 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3317.1598 (pause 0.39) 3317.5457 2658 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3317.5457 Like, 3317.8627 2659 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3317.8627 (pause 0.37) 3318.2358 2660 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3318.2358 I've not found a place that is like 3320.4833 2661 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3320.4833 (pause 0.94) 3321.4252 2662 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3321.4252 my town. My home town. 3323.0052 2663 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3323.0052 (pause 0.21) 3323.2156 2664 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3323.2156 And I love it. 3324.2264 2665 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3324.2264 (pause 0.23) 3324.4596 2666 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3324.4596 I- I love it. I have grown to love Rochester. 3327.3786 2667 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3327.3786 (pause 0.14) 3327.5138 2668 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3327.5138 And I've grown to find the beauty in it. 3329.7881 2669 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3329.7881 (pause 0.60) 3330.3896 2670 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3330.3896 And, 3330.7813 2671 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3330.7813 (pause 0.53) 3331.3082 2672 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3331.3082 I guess the real reason why I really wanna just travel is to like, 3334.3391 2673 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3334.3391 (pause 0.35) 3334.6888 2674 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3334.6888 to share that. 3335.5923 2675 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3335.5923 (pause 0.21) 3335.8068 2676 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3335.8068 You say you're from New York and they're like, 3337.3269 2677 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3337.3269 (pause 0.09) 3337.4194 2678 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3337.4194 oh you're from the city. I'm like, 3338.9060 2679 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3338.9060 (pause 0.28) 3339.1874 2680 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3339.1874 no, 3339.8075 2681 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3339.8075 (pause 0.18) 3339.9847 2682 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3339.9847 like, 3340.3857 2683 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3340.3857 (pause 0.54) 3340.9266 2684 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3340.9266 from upstate, [like], 3342.5036 2685 ROC_int_01 3341.9268 [] 3342.6648 2686 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3343.0876 [yeah.] 3343.3763 2687 ROC_int_01 3343.1171 [How] do you feel like we're different from like 3345.3835 2688 ROC_int_01 3345.6210 downstate? 3346.4464 2689 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3347.5410 3348.3010 2690 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3348.3010 (pause 0.46) 3348.7654 2691 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3348.7654 I don't- 3349.1777 2692 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3349.1777 (pause 0.14) 3349.3176 2693 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3349.3176 it's- 3349.6160 2694 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3349.6160 (pause 0.07) 3349.6906 2695 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3349.6906 it's- 3350.0356 2696 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3350.0356 (pause 2.64) 3352.6795 2697 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3352.6795 I don't know. It's- it's- somethi- it's something about us. Like- 3356.5952 2698 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3356.5952 (pause 1.05) 3357.6443 2699 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3357.6443 like you can hear somebody from the city and be like, okay yeah, they're from the city. 3361.0984 2700 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3361.0984 (pause 0.38) 3361.4761 2701 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3361.4761 But like, you hear somebody from 3363.6677 2702 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3363.6677 (pause 0.52) 3364.1899 2703 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3364.1899 Rochester and you're like, 3365.3510 2704 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3365.3510 (pause 2.21) 3367.5647 2705 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3367.5647 where they from? 3368.2082 2706 ROC_int_01 3368.4227 Okay, yeah [so] 3369.5091 2707 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3369.0801 [Like.] 3369.4152 2708 ROC_int_01 3370.0938 do you think that Rochesterians have an accent? Or certain people who live here sound like they're from 3375.3273 2709 ROC_int_01 3375.3273 (pause 0.41) 3375.7423 2710 ROC_int_01 3375.7423 Rochester maybe, more than others? 3377.6016 2711 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3377.6109 I mean, I ge- uh, 3378.3757 2712 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3378.3757 (pause 0.76) 3379.1404 2713 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3379.1404 this is new for me. This whole like, Rochesterian accent thing. 3382.9453 2714 ROC_int_01 3383.0199 Yeah. 3383.3836 2715 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3383.3836 Um, 3383.8394 2716 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3384.9539 everybody sound n- 3385.7605 2717 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3385.7605 (pause 0.38) 3386.1429 2718 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3386.1429 normal to me pretty much. 3387.6723 2719 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3387.6723 (pause 0.30) 3387.9707 2720 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3387.9707 But I guess like, the Rochester accent is like, 3390.1285 2721 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3390.1285 (pause 0.15) 3390.2777 2722 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3390.2777 in the a's or something like Rochester (atypical pronunciation) or [something like that.] 3393.4321 2723 ROC_int_01 3392.6884 [] 3393.6770 2724 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3394.0656 /Cause I/ get people that, um, 3395.8068 2725 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3395.8068 (pause 0.78) 3396.5865 2726 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3396.5865 come from- from like out of town, they'll be like, yo what's up with the accent? I'm like, 3400.3811 2727 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3400.3811 (pause 1.37) 3401.7508 2728 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3401.7508 what accent? 3402.5948 2729 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3402.5948 (pause 0.17) 3402.7673 2730 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3402.7673 Like, [] 3403.4599 2731 ROC_int_01 3403.0191 [Right], right. 3403.8398 2732 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3403.8901 what accent? Like 3404.8050 2733 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3404.8050 (pause 1.23) 3406.0314 2734 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3406.0314 you hear- you can hear- in New York City you can hear a Bronx accent be like, okay. 3409.1497 2735 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3409.1497 (pause 0.34) 3409.4909 2736 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3409.4909 You hear a Brooklyn accent be like, 3410.8152 2737 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3410.8152 (pause 0.13) 3410.9411 2738 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3410.9411 okay, 3411.4493 2739 ROC_int_01 3411.9156 Mm-hm. 3412.2420 2740 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3412.2280 But like, 3413.1047 2741 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3413.9160 I don't know. Like, I think 3415.3429 2742 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3415.3429 (pause 0.22) 3415.5620 2743 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3415.5620 to me, everybody in Rochester pretty much 3417.5426 2744 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3417.5426 (pause 0.67) 3418.2094 2745 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3418.2094 be speaking English, or they're not from 3420.6621 2746 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3420.6621 (pause 0.16) 3420.8206 2747 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3420.8206 Rochester. So that's understandable that they have an accent, or like, English is not their first speaking language. 3426.0979 2748 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3426.0979 (pause 0.43) 3426.5315 2749 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3426.5315 Cause, I mean we have, 3427.7812 2750 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3427.7812 (pause 0.44) 3428.2230 2751 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3428.2230 a diverse [culture,] 3429.4820 2752 ROC_int_01 3429.1627 [Yeah], 3429.5267 2753 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3429.7571 uh, [a very] diverse culture. So like, 3431.9113 2754 ROC_int_01 3429.9758 [mm-hm.] 3430.3634 2755 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3433.0724 I guess I never- 3434.1157 2756 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3434.1157 (pause 0.69) 3434.8105 2757 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3434.8105 never really thought about it. I'm still waiting for somebody to be like, okay, 3438.5222 2758 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3438.5222 (pause 0.72) 3439.2449 2759 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3439.2449 this right here is a Rochester accent and I can hear it and be like- 3442.9834 2760 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3442.9834 (pause 0.92) 3443.9067 2761 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3443.9067 cause I be like, do I have a Rochester accent? And they're like, 3446.1624 2762 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3446.1624 (pause 1.25) 3447.4167 2763 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3447.4167 nah nah, I'm like, well, I've been here my whole life, so it- 3450.3217 2764 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3450.3217 (pause 0.74) 3451.0631 2765 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3451.0631 I would think I would have- 3452.0178 2766 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3452.0178 (pause 0.28) 3452.2976 2767 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3452.2976 have some type of- 3453.1556 2768 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3453.1556 (pause 0.45) 3453.6032 2769 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3453.6032 if there is an accent, I think I would have it. 3455.7248 2770 ROC_int_01 3455.8834 Mm-hm. 3456.4103 2771 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3456.5735 /And it's like/ ah, 3457.4552 2772 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3457.4552 (pause 0.24) 3457.6963 2773 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3457.6963 ah. 3458.3023 2774 ROC_int_01 3458.9457 Yeah. 3459.2908 2775 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3459.2955 But it's 3459.7897 2776 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3459.7897 (pause 0.58) 3460.3726 2777 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3460.3726 I think 3460.8715 2778 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3460.8715 (pause 0.10) 3460.9694 2779 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3460.9694 with Rochester 3462.0792 2780 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3462.0792 (pause 0.14) 3462.2144 2781 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3462.2144 it's more so like, 3463.8511 2782 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3463.8511 (pause 1.81) 3465.6638 2783 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3465.6638 because of what our city gets portrayed as. 3468.6014 2784 ROC_int_01 3469.1750 Mm. 3469.7058 2785 ROC_int_01 3469.7058 (pause 0.50) 3470.2043 2786 ROC_int_01 3470.2043 I'm glad you brought that up. I was just gonna ask you like, what are the stereotypes about sort of this place, 3475.9241 2787 ROC_int_01 3475.9241 (pause 0.42) 3476.3448 2788 ROC_int_01 3476.3448 people who live here, especially black people in the city? 3479.4497 2789 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3480.0279 I mean, the stereotype, 3481.0444 2790 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3481.0444 (pause 0.14) 3481.1890 2791 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3481.1890 uh, is basically- 3482.5774 2792 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3482.5774 (pause 1.09) 3483.6685 2793 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3483.6685 Everybody looks at the statistics, which 3485.5943 2794 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3485.5943 (pause 0.31) 3485.9067 2795 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3485.9067 came out recently. 3486.9139 2796 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3486.9139 (pause 0.75) 3487.6634 2797 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3487.6634 Rochester is poor. 3488.8105 2798 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3488.8105 (pause 0.20) 3489.0110 2799 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3489.0110 Rochester is 3490.5265 2800 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3490.5265 (pause 0.67) 3491.1979 2801 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3491.1979 basically a smaller Chiraq. 3493.1657 2802 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3493.1657 (pause 0.55) 3493.7147 2803 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3493.7147 Um, 3494.3815 2804 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3494.3815 (pause 1.69) 3496.0695 2805 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3496.0695 the people are dumb. The kids don't 3498.1165 2806 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3498.1165 (pause 0.43) 3498.5428 2807 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3498.5428 educate themselves. They just drop out of school. Everybody's having babies. 3502.5778 2808 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3502.5778 (pause 0.41) 3502.9881 2809 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3502.9881 Or, 3503.6316 2810 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3503.6316 (pause 0.37) 3503.9999 2811 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3503.9999 um, 3504.5082 2812 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3504.5082 (pause 0.98) 3505.4862 2813 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3505.4862 [STD's, or] 3507.2208 2814 ROC_int_01 3506.5026 [Mm-hm.] 3506.9850 2815 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3507.6871 like, 3508.0229 2816 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3508.0229 (pause 0.33) 3508.3539 2817 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3508.3539 Rochester gets a lot of- a- a lot of negativity. 3511.3429 2818 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3511.3429 (pause 0.20) 3511.5469 2819 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3511.5469 And- 3512.1530 2820 ROC_int_01 3514.0555 So how do you try to move through I guess, or navigate your way through 3517.9104 2821 ROC_int_01 3517.9104 (pause 1.36) 3519.2675 2822 ROC_int_01 3519.2675 those kinds of stereotypes right, that exist about 3521.9999 2823 ROC_int_01 3521.9999 (pause 0.29) 3522.2937 2824 ROC_int_01 3522.2937 us, or like people who live in the city? Like how do you see yourself in relation to that? 3526.8759 2825 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3527.1513 In relation to that, it's kind of like 3529.9059 2826 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3529.9059 (pause 0.42) 3530.3302 2827 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3530.3302 I mean like, you know it's out there. You know it happens. You can't ignore- 3533.9673 2828 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3533.9673 (pause 0.61) 3534.5781 2829 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3534.5781 you can't ignore it. 3535.3195 2830 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3535.3195 (pause 0.14) 3535.4641 2831 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3535.4641 Especially like I said, living on /RD-ADDRESS-5/. Like, 3538.2234 2832 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3538.2234 (pause 0.34) 3538.5638 2833 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3538.5638 there's been times where, 3540.1445 2834 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3540.1445 (pause 1.54) 3541.6832 2835 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3541.6832 man done got popped literally by 3543.4913 2836 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3543.4913 (pause 0.33) 3543.8200 2837 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3543.8200 the tire of my mom's car. So like, 3546.1201 2838 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3546.1201 (pause 0.59) 3546.7110 2839 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3546.7110 I'm like okay, I can't ignore this, but 3549.0145 2840 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3549.0145 (pause 0.46) 3549.4715 2841 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3549.4715 I- it's really just- it doesn't- 3551.6409 2842 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3551.6409 (pause 0.16) 3551.7994 2843 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3551.7994 it doesn't define me as a person. 3553.3802 2844 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3553.3802 (pause 0.46) 3553.8406 2845 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3553.8406 Like the actions that happen in my city, 3555.6125 2846 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3555.6125 (pause 0.35) 3555.9576 2847 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3555.9576 doesn't define me as a person, 3557.7761 2848 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3557.7761 (pause 0.24) 3558.0186 2849 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3558.0186 doesn't define the person next to me as a person. 3560.1018 2850 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3560.1018 (pause 0.52) 3560.6240 2851 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3560.6240 We still have our own dreams, we're still entitled to our own goals and 3564.1491 2852 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3564.1491 (pause 0.25) 3564.4009 2853 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3564.4009 it's really just- 3565.5795 2854 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3565.5795 (pause 1.06) 3566.6434 2855 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3566.6434 it- 3566.8198 2856 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3566.8198 (pause 0.62) 3567.4447 2857 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3567.4447 it really drove me to- 3569.0161 2858 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3569.0161 (pause 0.28) 3569.2958 2859 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3569.2958 to make 3569.9393 2860 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3569.9393 (pause 0.35) 3570.2890 2861 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3570.2890 them- I'm like, 3570.9791 2862 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3570.9791 (pause 0.20) 3571.1750 2863 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3571.1750 I'm- I'm gonna prove you wrong. I- I- I- I'm 3573.9249 2864 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3573.9249 (pause 0.56) 3574.4892 2865 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3574.4892 gonna definitely prove you wrong. So if that means 3576.9045 2866 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3576.9045 (pause 0.37) 3577.2729 2867 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3577.2729 consciously having to do 3578.7825 2868 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3578.7825 (pause 0.25) 3579.0305 2869 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3579.0305 the complete opposite, 3580.4247 2870 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3580.4247 (pause 0.37) 3580.7978 2871 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3580.7978 of what you're talking about, 3582.1500 2872 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3582.1500 (pause 0.30) 3582.4473 2873 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3582.4473 just so I could be like ha ha, 3584.0513 2874 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3584.0513 (pause 0.24) 3584.2891 2875 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3584.2891 you can't say that because 3585.8372 2876 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3585.8372 (pause 0.88) 3586.7128 2877 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3586.7128 I'm not that, 3587.4739 2878 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3587.4739 (pause 0.57) 3588.0428 2879 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3588.0428 then, 3588.7689 2880 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3588.7689 (pause 0.35) 3589.1141 2881 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3589.1141 that's what I'm gonna do. 3590.3870 2882 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3590.3870 (pause 0.18) 3590.5689 2883 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3590.5689 And it's really a- a- a conscious choice. Like, 3593.7863 2884 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3593.7863 (pause 1.33) 3595.1187 2885 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3595.1187 it's hard, 3595.6643 2886 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3595.6643 (pause 0.09) 3595.7575 2887 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3595.7575 like, it's hard to be 3597.4548 2888 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3597.4548 (pause 1.64) 3599.0962 2889 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3599.0962 positive. 3599.9496 2890 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3599.9496 (pause 0.11) 3600.0603 2891 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3600.0603 It's hard to 3601.1607 2892 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3601.1607 (pause 1.02) 3602.1819 2893 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3602.1819 stay on- 3603.3569 2894 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3603.3569 (pause 1.17) 3604.5298 2895 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3604.5298 I guess you could say like, the straight and narrow. Like, 3606.8902 2896 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3606.8902 (pause 0.59) 3607.4824 2897 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3607.4824 especially, again like, 3608.5736 2898 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3608.5736 (pause 0.28) 3608.8487 2899 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3608.8487 3609.1657 2900 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3609.1657 (pause 1.43) 3610.5926 2901 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3610.5926 I have friends who, 3611.9402 2902 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3611.9402 (pause 0.36) 3612.3039 2903 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3612.3039 didn't make the same choices /I had/. 3613.9860 2904 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3613.9860 (pause 0.49) 3614.4756 2905 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3614.4756 So it's like, okay, 3615.8652 2906 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3615.8652 (pause 1.03) 3616.8910 2907 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3616.8910 times get hard. 3617.7490 2908 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3617.7490 (pause 0.17) 3617.9210 2909 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3617.9210 /it's hard times again/ (laughing) 3619.5948 2910 ROC_int_01 3619.5948 Mm-hm. 3620.0891 2911 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3620.0891 times be getting hard. 3621.1662 2912 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3621.6278 And 3622.2946 2913 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3622.2946 (pause 0.24) 3622.5324 2914 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3622.5324 it be like yo, alright, 3624.1691 2915 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3624.1691 (pause 1.30) 3625.4736 2916 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3625.4736 I know, 3626.1497 2917 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3626.1497 (pause 0.48) 3626.6293 2918 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3626.6293 if- 3627.4553 2919 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3627.4553 (pause 1.41) 3628.8681 2920 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3628.8681 I know my resume could go and get me a new job, 3630.9187 2921 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3630.9187 (pause 0.35) 3631.2731 2922 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3631.2731 but like realistically, the type of money I make, 3633.3853 2923 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3633.3853 (pause 0.71) 3634.0941 2924 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3634.0941 I need to call up my boy right now and say 3635.9406 2925 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3635.9406 (pause 0.23) 3636.1679 2926 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3636.1679 no, 3636.6063 2927 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3636.6063 (pause 0.34) 3636.9420 2928 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3636.9420 no, 3637.4363 2929 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3637.4363 (pause 0.23) 3637.6641 2930 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3637.6641 no. 3637.9714 2931 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3637.9714 (pause 0.24) 3638.2102 2932 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3638.2102 Don't do it. 3638.8911 2933 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3638.8911 (pause 0.12) 3639.0081 2934 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3639.0081 Don't do it. 3639.4821 2935 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3639.4821 (pause 0.08) 3639.5624 2936 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3639.5624 Why? Cause you feed into statistic that's what they expect of you. 3642.6761 2937 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3642.6761 (pause 0.33) 3643.0073 2938 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3643.0073 That's what they waiting for you to do. 3644.4714 2939 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3644.4714 (pause 0.39) 3644.8631 2940 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3644.8631 Like, 3645.2361 2941 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3645.2361 (pause 0.90) 3646.1314 2942 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3646.1314 last year, 3646.6630 2943 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3646.6630 (pause 0.48) 3647.1479 2944 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3647.1479 last year, I got locked up 3648.7178 2945 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3648.7178 (pause 0.23) 3648.9495 2946 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3648.9495 for the first time 3649.9678 2947 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3649.9678 (pause 0.40) 3650.3713 2948 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3650.3713 ever. 3650.7932 2949 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3650.7932 (pause 0.43) 3651.2268 2950 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3651.2268 And 3651.9029 2951 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3651.9029 (pause 0.41) 3652.3133 2952 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3652.3133 was nothing criminal. 3653.4417 2953 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3653.4417 (pause 0.29) 3653.7343 2954 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3653.7343 Ended up being I had a- um, 3655.4829 2955 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3655.4829 (pause 1.00) 3656.4854 2956 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3656.4854 I had a bunch of tickets on my license. 3658.2867 2957 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3658.2867 (pause 0.42) 3658.7096 2958 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3658.7096 And 3659.2831 2959 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3659.2831 (pause 0.38) 3659.6608 2960 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3659.6608 they locked me up for it. 3660.7881 2961 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3660.7881 (pause 0.72) 3661.5062 2962 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3661.5062 And I'm like, 3662.7372 2963 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3662.7372 (pause 0.72) 3663.4553 2964 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3663.4553 this is wild. 3664.4951 2965 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3664.4951 (pause 0.44) 3664.9381 2966 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3664.9381 I'm like, 3665.6189 2967 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3665.6189 (pause 0.91) 3666.5316 2968 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3666.5316 cause realistically, they didn't have to lock me up. 3668.7978 2969 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3668.7978 (pause 0.75) 3669.5439 2970 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3669.5439 I'm like, 3670.2247 2971 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3670.2247 (pause 0.73) 3670.9521 2972 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3670.9521 you really just looked for 3672.5456 2973 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3672.5456 (pause 0.36) 3672.9047 2974 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3672.9047 any reason 3673.7393 2975 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3673.7393 (pause 0.99) 3674.7279 2976 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3674.7279 to lock me- Man like, 3675.6884 2977 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3675.6884 (pause 0.29) 3675.9822 2978 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3675.9822 you would swear I did something [criminal.] 3677.9220 2979 ROC_int_01 3677.6482 [Mm. Mm.] 3678.3479 2980 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3678.2239 [Like,] 3678.5736 2981 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3679.5248 how tight the handcuffs were, 3681.2828 2982 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3681.2828 (pause 0.48) 3681.7584 2983 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3681.7584 how rude they were talking to me. 3683.4184 2984 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3683.4184 (pause 0.33) 3683.7448 2985 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3683.7448 Like, 3684.0758 2986 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3684.0758 (pause 1.33) 3685.4083 2987 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3685.4083 cop cars are just not comfortable. 3687.5719 2988 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3687.5719 (pause 0.67) 3688.2387 2989 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3688.2387 And 3688.8542 2990 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3688.8542 (pause 2.07) 3690.9258 2991 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3690.9258 me being the person I am, 3693.1056 2992 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3693.1056 (pause 0.09) 3693.1988 2993 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3693.1988 and like, 3693.8796 2994 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3693.8796 (pause 0.10) 3693.9822 2995 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3693.9822 the resilient, 3695.3540 2996 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3695.3540 (pause 0.13) 3695.4887 2997 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3695.4887 like- 3695.8753 2998 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3695.8753 (pause 1.04) 3696.9198 2999 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3696.9198 I'm a r- I'm- I'm- I'm a rebel, like I'm- I'm a rebel. 3699.4933 3000 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3699.4933 (pause 0.11) 3699.6044 3001 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3699.6044 And if I- if I definitely know I didn't do anything 3702.4581 3002 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3702.4581 (pause 0.68) 3703.1389 3003 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3703.1389 wrong, 3703.6891 3004 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3703.6891 (pause 1.04) 3704.7336 3005 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3704.7336 then 3705.1253 3006 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3705.1253 (pause 0.31) 3705.4377 3007 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3705.4377 I'm gonna talk. 3706.1465 3008 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3706.1465 (pause 0.66) 3706.8040 3009 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3706.8040 But then, 3707.5442 3010 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3707.5442 (pause 0.20) 3707.7447 3011 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3707.7447 having to understand and humble myself, I'm like, okay, 3710.4818 3012 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3710.4818 (pause 0.59) 3711.0694 3013 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3711.0694 again, I'm a black man 3712.5751 3014 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3712.5751 (pause 0.23) 3712.8068 3015 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3712.8068 in Rochester. 3713.7074 3016 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3713.7074 (pause 0.15) 3713.8613 3017 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3713.8613 These are cops, 3714.7892 3018 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3714.7892 (pause 0.12) 3714.9104 3019 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3714.9104 I'm a black man in America. 3716.3233 3020 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3716.3233 (pause 2.25) 3718.5708 3021 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3718.5708 This is, 3719.5722 3022 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3719.5722 (pause 1.02) 3720.5934 3023 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3720.5934 how you need to conduct yourself, in order 3722.7290 3024 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3722.7290 (pause 0.50) 3723.2326 3025 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3723.2326 to- 3723.8574 3026 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3723.8574 (pause 0.86) 3724.7136 3027 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3724.7136 It becomes, 3725.6277 3028 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3725.6277 (pause 0.14) 3725.7644 3029 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3725.7644 not about 3726.6213 3030 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3726.6213 (pause 2.58) 3729.2046 3031 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3729.2046 being right or wrong. 3730.3983 3032 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3730.3983 (pause 0.29) 3730.6921 3033 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3730.6921 It becomes, 3731.9033 3034 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3731.9033 (pause 0.62) 3732.5234 3035 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3732.5234 I need to make sure I make out of this situation alive. 3735.4424 3036 ROC_int_01 3735.7362 Mm. 3736.0486 3037 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3736.0392 Um, 3736.4962 3038 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3738.0198 and then, 3738.4815 3039 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3738.4815 (pause 0.15) 3738.6307 3040 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3738.6307 that whole aspect like, 3739.9736 3041 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3739.9736 (pause 0.19) 3740.1601 3042 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3740.1601 cops in Rochester. 3741.6615 3043 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3741.6615 (pause 0.33) 3741.9926 3044 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3741.9926 Um, 3742.4169 3045 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3742.4169 (pause 0.66) 3743.0733 3046 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3743.0733 I done ha- I've had a few 3744.8731 3047 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3744.8731 (pause 2.29) 3747.1673 3048 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3747.1673 instances. I remember, um, 3749.1397 3049 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3749.1397 (pause 1.10) 3750.2390 3050 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3750.2390 playing basketball after school at /RD-SCHOOL-4/, me and my boys, 3753.3119 3051 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3753.3119 (pause 0.09) 3753.4029 3052 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3753.4029 I'm like, fourteen years old. 3754.8418 3053 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3754.8418 (pause 0.51) 3755.3530 3054 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3755.3530 We outside, hey, ha ha we playing. 3757.4653 3055 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3757.4653 (pause 1.13) 3758.5984 3056 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3758.5984 Three cop cars pull up, boom, boom, boom, 3760.4403 3057 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3760.4403 (pause 0.41) 3760.8459 3058 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3760.8459 get out the car. 3761.3902 3059 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3761.3902 (pause 0.40) 3761.7942 3060 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3761.7942 We all just freeze. 3763.0830 3061 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3763.0830 (pause 1.03) 3764.1088 3062 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3764.1088 They just come up to me, start questioning me. 3765.6895 3063 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3765.6895 (pause 0.71) 3766.3983 3064 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3766.3983 Where were you yesterday at six o'clock? 3768.5106 3065 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3768.5106 (pause 1.81) 3770.3233 3066 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3770.3233 I was at- 3770.8222 3067 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3770.8222 (pause 0.29) 3771.1160 3068 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3771.1160 I was at home. 3771.9786 3069 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3771.9786 (pause 0.23) 3772.2118 3070 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3772.2118 Like, 3772.6594 3071 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3772.6594 (pause 0.57) 3773.2271 3072 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3773.2271 and they're like, 3774.0105 3073 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3774.0105 (pause 0.79) 3774.8032 3074 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3774.8032 oh wait nah my bad. 3776.0808 3075 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3776.0808 (pause 0.26) 3776.3419 3076 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3776.3419 You don't look like him, you're not him. 3777.7175 3077 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3777.7175 (pause 0.23) 3777.9506 3078 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3777.9506 Apparently some guy shot a six year old 3780.5423 3079 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3780.5423 (pause 0.10) 3780.6416 3080 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3780.6416 on /RD-ADDRESS-5/ 3781.9176 3081 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3781.9176 (pause 0.49) 3782.4079 3082 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3782.4079 the day before. 3783.1486 3083 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3783.1486 (pause 0.65) 3783.8014 3084 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3783.8014 But I'm like, 3784.6221 3085 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3784.6221 (pause 2.01) 3786.6353 3086 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3786.6353 I'm a kid. 3787.5493 3087 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3787.5493 (pause 1.78) 3789.3258 3088 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3789.3258 I ended up- um, I ended up telling my mom. 3791.3355 3089 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3791.3355 (pause 0.85) 3792.1830 3090 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3792.1830 And she went to the school, and the school got like a picture of the guy. The guy had a beard. 3796.5428 3091 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3796.5428 (pause 0.48) 3797.0266 3092 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3797.0266 The guy had- 3797.8659 3093 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3797.8659 (pause 0.72) 3798.5840 3094 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3798.5840 he had braids. 3799.6891 3095 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3799.6891 (pause 0.87) 3800.5564 3096 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3800.5564 And at this time I had long hair. But like, 3802.6874 3097 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3802.6874 (pause 1.99) 3804.6726 3098 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3804.6726 n- looked nothing like the guy. 3806.3326 3099 ROC_int_01 3806.5962 [Mm-hm.] 3807.1588 3100 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3806.9015 [Um,] 3807.4331 3101 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3807.6802 I remember being like, around driving age, 3809.9126 3102 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3809.9126 (pause 0.23) 3810.1457 3103 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3810.1457 and, um, I had pulled up, 3811.9876 3104 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3811.9876 (pause 0.23) 3812.2207 3105 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3812.2207 it's like, 3812.6963 3106 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3812.6963 (pause 0.16) 3812.8595 3107 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3812.8595 ten thirty at night, 3813.7501 3108 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3813.7501 (pause 0.29) 3814.0439 3109 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3814.0439 I'm on /RD-ADDRESS-5/, 3815.0418 3110 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3815.0418 (pause 0.52) 3815.5629 3111 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3815.5629 pull up to my house. 3816.5514 3112 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3816.5514 (pause 2.20) 3818.7523 3113 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3818.7523 All of a sudden, 3819.5543 3114 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3819.5543 (pause 0.26) 3819.8154 3115 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3819.8154 cop 3820.1232 3116 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3820.1232 (pause 0.62) 3820.7387 3117 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3820.7387 pulls up behind me and puts on his lights. 3822.7982 3118 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3822.7982 (pause 0.12) 3822.9164 3119 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3822.9164 I'm like, 3823.6518 3120 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3823.6518 (pause 1.08) 3824.7336 3121 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3824.7336 I know I didn't do anything. 3826.0439 3122 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3826.0439 (pause 0.76) 3826.7993 3123 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3826.7993 Like, 3827.2318 3124 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3827.2318 (pause 0.56) 3827.7913 3125 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3827.7913 so I get out my car, 3828.8404 3126 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3828.8404 (pause 0.11) 3828.9489 3127 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3828.9489 cause 3829.3671 3128 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3829.3671 (pause 0.22) 3829.5866 3129 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3829.5866 I'm home. 3830.3233 3130 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3830.3233 (pause 1.18) 3831.5030 3131 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3831.5030 Get out the car, 3832.3936 3132 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3832.3936 (pause 0.09) 3832.4857 3133 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3832.4857 , 3832.8914 3134 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3832.8914 (pause 0.11) 3832.9986 3135 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3832.9986 , 3833.3204 3136 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3833.3204 (pause 0.30) 3833.6188 3137 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3833.6188 , 3833.9918 3138 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3833.9918 (pause 0.20) 3834.1877 3139 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3834.1877 just guns 3834.9664 3140 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3834.9664 (pause 0.25) 3835.2182 3141 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3835.2182 pulled. I'm like- 3835.8990 3142 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3835.8990 (pause 1.59) 3837.4890 3143 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3837.4890 And in this moment, I really don't know what to do. 3839.5629 3144 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3839.5629 (pause 0.58) 3840.1411 3145 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3840.1411 I don't- like, I instantly just like, 3841.5306 3146 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3841.5306 (pause 0.14) 3841.6744 3147 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3841.6744 freeze. 3842.4445 3148 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3842.4445 (pause 0.63) 3843.0787 3149 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3843.0787 And 3843.6802 3150 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3843.6802 (pause 0.29) 3843.9693 3151 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3843.9693 my mom, luckily was like in the kitchen and the kitchen is like right by the door, so she saw the flashing lights. 3849.2075 3152 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3849.2075 (pause 0.37) 3849.5776 3153 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3849.5776 So she opens the door and all she screams is, /RD-NAME-2/ get back in the car, get back in the car. So I'm just like, 3855.0740 3154 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3855.0740 (pause 0.62) 3855.6988 3155 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3855.6988 but I'm- 3856.1092 3156 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3856.1092 (pause 0.18) 3856.2910 3157 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3856.2910 I didn't do nothing. I'm home. Like, 3858.2390 3158 ROC_int_01 3858.2670 Mm-hm. 3858.7659 3159 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3859.1109 and they're just like, 3859.9363 3160 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3859.9363 (pause 0.10) 3860.0342 3161 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3860.0342 get in the car, da da da. 3861.2419 3162 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3861.2419 (pause 1.48) 3862.7235 3163 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3862.7235 So, 3863.4043 3164 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3863.4043 (pause 0.59) 3863.9965 3165 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3863.9965 long story short, apparently they stopped me, because the light above my license plate, 3868.9299 3166 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3868.9299 (pause 0.22) 3869.1479 3167 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3869.1479 was 3869.7074 3168 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3869.7074 (pause 0.54) 3870.2483 3169 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3870.2483 quote unquote, 3871.0029 3170 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3871.0029 (pause 0.13) 3871.1376 3171 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3871.1376 out. 3871.4793 3172 ROC_int_01 3872.1648 Mm. 3872.7756 3173 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3873.5170 And, 3874.5009 3174 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3874.5009 (pause 1.63) 3876.1317 3175 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3876.1317 they didn't end up giving me a ticket. 3877.5489 3176 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3877.5489 (pause 0.12) 3877.6718 3177 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3877.6718 They didn't end up doing anything. 3879.1067 3178 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3879.1067 (pause 0.96) 3880.0626 3179 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3880.0626 And I ended up going in the house after just sitting in the car for like forty-five minutes. 3884.2207 3180 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3884.2207 (pause 0.35) 3884.5751 3181 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3884.5751 But it's just like, 3885.6895 3182 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3885.6895 (pause 0.56) 3886.2491 3183 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3886.2491 why? 3886.6687 3184 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3886.6687 (pause 0.42) 3887.0884 3185 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3887.0884 And like for what? So, 3888.4441 3186 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3888.4441 (pause 0.40) 3888.8421 3187 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3888.8421 when I actually ended up getting locked up, I'm like okay, like, you gotta keep your wits about yourself because you know how 3895.0613 3188 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3895.0613 (pause 1.27) 3896.3284 3189 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3896.3284 you will get. 3896.9719 3190 ROC_int_01 3897.7506 Mm-hm 3898.2495 3191 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3898.4314 And 3899.0143 3192 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3899.0143 (pause 0.26) 3899.2707 3193 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3899.2707 this- at this point you understand. This is about survival. Like, 3903.0605 3194 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3903.0605 (pause 1.88) 3904.9443 3195 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3904.9443 you need to make it out alive, otherwise your mom's gonna kill you again. (laughing) 3908.8647 3196 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3908.8647 (pause 0.90) 3909.7646 3197 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3909.7646 But like, no, but like, it like 3911.5551 3198 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3911.5551 (pause 0.38) 3911.9328 3199 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3911.9328 yeah it's- 3912.8701 3200 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3912.8701 (pause 1.20) 3914.0673 3201 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3914.0673 that aspect of it, 3915.6527 3202 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3915.6527 (pause 0.52) 3916.1703 3203 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3916.1703 I don't think will ever really change. 3918.0494 3204 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3918.0494 (pause 0.40) 3918.4458 3205 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3918.4458 Um, 3918.9540 3206 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3918.9540 (pause 0.34) 3919.2897 3207 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3919.2897 because, again, like, 3920.3657 3208 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3920.3657 (pause 2.54) 3922.9023 3209 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3922.9023 the stereotypes. 3924.0681 3210 ROC_int_01 3925.0177 Yeah. 3925.4483 3211 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3925.4903 Like, 3925.9179 3212 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3925.9179 (pause 0.94) 3926.8600 3213 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3926.8600 um, 3927.3916 3214 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3927.3916 (pause 1.01) 3928.3987 3215 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3928.3987 however, on the plus side, 3929.6064 3216 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3929.6064 (pause 0.49) 3930.1007 3217 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3930.1007 Rochester has done some cool things. 3932.1139 3218 ROC_int_01 3932.3191 Mm-hm. 3932.7114 3219 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3932.7388 Last year we did a- uh, 3934.0910 3220 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3934.0910 (pause 0.63) 3934.7183 3221 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3934.7183 a peaceful protest 3936.1287 3222 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3936.1287 (pause 0.46) 3936.5856 3223 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3936.5856 July eighth. 3937.4555 3224 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3937.4555 (pause 1.36) 3938.8180 3225 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3938.8180 And, um, 3940.0211 3226 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3940.0211 (pause 1.31) 3941.3267 3227 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3941.3267 me and my boys was actually like, 3943.8994 3228 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3943.8994 (pause 0.39) 3944.2865 3229 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3944.2865 part of the people who were like, organizing it, and like was keeping it together 3948.0494 3230 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3948.0494 (pause 0.41) 3948.4644 3231 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3948.4644 and running it. 3949.1265 3232 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3949.1265 (pause 1.10) 3950.2258 3233 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3950.2258 And, 3950.9952 3234 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3950.9952 (pause 1.30) 3952.2915 3235 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3952.2915 I mean, that was about 3953.3232 3236 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3953.3232 (pause 0.14) 3953.4619 3237 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3953.4619 the police brutality, and everybody was getting gunned down across America, really for no apparent reason. 3960.0261 3238 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3960.0261 (pause 0.55) 3960.5763 3239 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3960.5763 And 3961.1079 3240 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3961.1079 (pause 0.70) 3961.8108 3241 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3961.8108 the way it ended, 3962.7794 3242 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3962.7794 (pause 0.23) 3963.0134 3243 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3963.0134 was very ironic. 3964.2899 3244 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3964.2899 (pause 0.14) 3964.4317 3245 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3964.4317 Like, 3964.7189 3246 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3964.7189 (pause 2.70) 3967.4203 3247 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3967.4203 being met with police with riot gear, and tear gas, and they ended up locking up seventy-four people. And it's like, 3975.2097 3248 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3975.2097 (pause 1.86) 3977.0702 3249 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3977.0702 nobody did anything to them. 3979.1312 3250 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3979.1312 (pause 0.25) 3979.3772 3251 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3979.3772 Literally like, 3980.1279 3252 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3980.1279 (pause 0.73) 3980.8600 3253 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3980.8600 being there, being a part of it, 3982.7345 3254 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3982.7345 (pause 0.65) 3983.3873 3255 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3983.3873 knowing what the mission is, 3985.0846 3256 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3985.0846 (pause 0.27) 3985.3504 3257 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3985.3504 knowing how we were managing, 3987.0652 3258 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3987.0652 (pause 0.38) 3987.4429 3259 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3987.4429 everything. 3988.0584 3260 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3988.0584 (pause 2.29) 3990.3525 3261 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3990.3525 It was completely peaceful. 3991.7234 3262 ROC_int_01 3992.1699 Mm-hm. 3992.5756 3263 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3993.0558 Nobody's like, 3993.9791 3264 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3993.9791 (pause 0.58) 3994.5573 3265 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3994.5573 the po- F the police. 3996.1706 3266 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3996.1706 (pause 0.28) 3996.4504 3267 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3996.4504 Nobody's like, 3997.6010 3268 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3997.6010 (pause 0.74) 3998.3377 3269 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3998.3377 oh, throwing anything. Like, 3999.9371 3270 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 3999.9371 (pause 1.09) 4001.0236 3271 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4001.0236 and we had a bunch of- we had a bunch of allies who would like link themselves like, around us. 4006.6692 3272 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4006.6692 (pause 0.49) 4007.1635 3273 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4007.1635 And then you had like- um, 4009.3457 3274 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4009.3457 (pause 0.61) 4009.9600 3275 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4009.9600 it was like women and kids, you stay 4012.5013 3276 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4012.5013 (pause 0.32) 4012.8231 3277 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4012.8231 in the inside. 4013.6997 3278 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4013.6997 (pause 0.92) 4014.6229 3279 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4014.6229 And like, we had like the men 4016.7108 3280 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4016.7108 (pause 0.43) 4017.1398 3281 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4017.1398 on the outside, on the borders. 4018.6459 3282 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4018.6459 (pause 0.39) 4019.0376 3283 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4019.0376 Like, 4019.3593 3284 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4019.3593 (pause 0.35) 4019.7044 3285 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4019.7044 okay, moving the masses this way. 4021.6616 3286 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4021.6616 (pause 0.38) 4022.0440 3287 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4022.0440 But I remember like, walking through downtown, 4024.1656 3288 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4024.1656 (pause 0.14) 4024.3101 3289 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4024.3101 and 4024.8184 3290 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4024.8184 (pause 0.63) 4025.4479 3291 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4025.4479 it started off with like, 4027.0799 3292 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4027.0799 (pause 0.39) 4027.4669 3293 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4027.4669 fifty of us. 4028.3284 3294 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4028.3284 (pause 0.58) 4028.9113 3295 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4028.9113 Then we just started walking. 4030.2169 3296 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4030.2169 (pause 0.65) 4030.8650 3297 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4030.8650 Then it turned to like a hundred. 4032.4085 3298 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4032.4085 (pause 0.38) 4032.7861 3299 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4032.7861 Then it's just like, 4033.5975 3300 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4033.5975 (pause 0.45) 4034.0440 3301 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4034.0440 I turned around, I'm just like, 4035.5361 3302 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4035.5361 (pause 0.87) 4036.4034 3303 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4036.4034 all of these people. (whispered) 4037.6717 3304 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4037.6717 (pause 0.38) 4038.0541 3305 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4038.0541 All of these people. Like literally, 4040.1372 3306 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4040.1372 (pause 0.79) 4040.9299 3307 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4040.9299 to the point where like 4042.1330 3308 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4042.1330 (pause 0.43) 4042.5619 3309 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4042.5619 disrupting traffic, disrupting 4044.8410 3310 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4044.8410 (pause 0.87) 4045.7083 3311 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4045.7083 everything. But then we had people getting out of their cars. Like, 4049.3080 3312 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4049.3080 (pause 0.12) 4049.4292 3313 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4049.4292 what are you guys marching for? And they seeing the signs, and they're hearing the chants and they're like nah, I feel you. And they 4054.4407 3314 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4054.4407 (pause 0.54) 4054.9769 3315 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4054.9769 park they car and they come and join us. And I'm like, yo like, 4058.0393 3316 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4058.0393 (pause 0.47) 4058.5103 3317 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4058.5103 this is powerful. 4059.3729 3318 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4059.3729 (pause 0.39) 4059.7646 3319 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4059.7646 And- and 4060.5246 3320 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4060.5246 (pause 0.72) 4061.2474 3321 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4061.2474 I would probably say we ended up with like, 4062.7861 3322 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4062.7861 (pause 2.13) 4064.9159 3323 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4064.9159 three hundred to four hundred people. 4066.4780 3324 ROC_int_01 4066.7485 Mm. 4067.0515 3325 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4067.2567 And still, 4067.9608 3326 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4067.9608 (pause 0.27) 4068.2313 3327 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4068.2313 nobody, 4069.4296 3328 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4069.4296 (pause 0.23) 4069.6616 3329 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4069.6616 nobody threw a punch, 4070.9346 3330 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4070.9346 (pause 0.16) 4071.0978 3331 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4071.0978 nobody threw a slur, nobody threw a yell, no anything. 4074.3758 3332 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4074.3758 (pause 0.75) 4075.1265 3333 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4075.1265 And, um, 4075.8901 3334 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4075.8901 (pause 1.17) 4077.0558 3335 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4077.0558 I mean, Rochester actually, we made- 4079.0282 3336 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4079.0282 (pause 0.57) 4079.6018 3337 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4079.6018 I think we're like number four, 4080.8981 3338 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4080.8981 (pause 0.42) 4081.3177 3339 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4081.3177 on like Blavity 4082.4596 3340 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4082.4596 (pause 0.33) 4082.7895 3341 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4082.7895 for like, 4083.4703 3342 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4083.4703 (pause 1.51) 4084.9764 3343 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4084.9764 things that were going on that week. 4086.4825 3344 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4086.4825 (pause 1.26) 4087.7404 3345 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4087.7404 And just like, 4088.4491 3346 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4088.4491 (pause 0.69) 4089.1346 3347 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4089.1346 for me I say that's a positive thing. I say that's a positive thing, because 4093.5678 3348 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4093.5678 (pause 1.13) 4094.6963 3349 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4094.6963 it could have went completely left. 4096.7153 3350 ROC_int_01 4096.8738 Mm. 4097.1723 3351 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4097.5220 Um, 4098.0302 3352 ROC_int_01 4098.1188 Right. 4098.5198 3353 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4098.9523 completely left. 4100.0155 3354 ROC_int_01 4100.4678 Yeah. 4100.8688 3355 ROC_int_01 4100.8688 (pause 0.12) 4100.9900 3356 ROC_int_01 4100.9900 [I-] 4101.0693 3357 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4100.9947 [But] it shows- 4102.1278 3358 ROC_int_01 4102.7013 I might have been there actually. 4104.2401 3359 ROC_int_01 4104.2401 (pause 0.44) 4104.6784 3360 ROC_int_01 4104.6784 Um, 4105.2053 3361 ROC_int_01 4105.2053 (pause 0.30) 4105.5026 3362 ROC_int_01 4105.5026 at the, protest you were talking [about.] 4107.5962 3363 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4107.2465 [Mm-hm.] 4107.5729 3364 ROC_int_01 4107.9040 Yup. 4108.1744 3365 ROC_int_01 4108.1744 (pause 0.20) 4108.3749 3366 ROC_int_01 4108.3749 This was last year? 4109.2189 3367 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4109.2842 Mm-hm. 4109.5453 3368 ROC_int_01 4109.7831 Last summer? 4110.4639 3369 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4110.4732 Mm-hm. 4110.8043 3370 ROC_int_01 4110.9162 Yeah, 4111.3359 3371 ROC_int_01 4111.3359 (pause 0.66) 4111.9968 3372 ROC_int_01 4111.9968 yup. 4112.2859 3373 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4113.1346 It was just- it was- it was wild. And it- 4115.2375 3374 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4115.2375 (pause 0.20) 4115.4334 3375 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4115.4334 it went to like, 4116.8871 3376 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4116.8871 (pause 2.06) 4118.9434 3377 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4118.9434 three in the morning. 4120.0065 3378 ROC_int_01 4120.3702 Mm-hm. Yeah, I don't think I stayed til the end, but I [definitely] came for the 4124.2206 3379 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4123.3347 [Mm.] 4123.5445 3380 ROC_int_01 4124.6356 first part of the rally and the march 4126.4775 3381 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4126.6220 Yeah. 4126.9539 3382 ROC_int_01 4126.9391 for sure. 4127.4427 3383 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4127.8484 But yeah, I'm like it [went- and] it went 4129.6051 3384 ROC_int_01 4128.8229 [Yeah.] 4129.1540 3385 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4129.8569 pretty late. 4130.4072 3386 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4130.4072 (pause 0.13) 4130.5331 3387 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4130.5331 Um, 4130.9108 3388 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4130.9108 (pause 0.25) 4131.1626 3389 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4131.1626 [but yeah,] 4131.7128 3390 ROC_int_01 4131.3087 [Yeah.] 4131.5776 3391 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4131.9459 I mean, 4132.3749 3392 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4132.3749 (pause 1.58) 4133.9510 3393 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4133.9510 I guess it's- I mean, 4134.8171 3394 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4134.8171 (pause 0.17) 4134.9861 3395 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4134.9861 every city has a ugly side, but 4136.8939 3396 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4136.8939 (pause 0.20) 4137.0924 3397 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4137.0924 it still doesn't deter me from 4138.8905 3398 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4138.8905 (pause 0.21) 4139.0985 3399 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4139.0985 really wanting 4140.1934 3400 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4140.1934 (pause 0.76) 4140.9516 3401 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4140.9516 my city to be prosperous and really understanding that like, again, 4144.8039 3402 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4144.8039 (pause 1.02) 4145.8204 3403 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4145.8204 so much potential. 4146.8183 3404 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4146.8183 (pause 0.23) 4147.0509 3405 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4147.0509 So much potential. 4147.9222 3406 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4147.9222 (pause 0.32) 4148.2393 3407 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4148.2393 Right now, 4148.8968 3408 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4148.8968 (pause 0.54) 4149.4330 3409 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4149.4330 I don't really know how to feel because a lot of gentrification been going on, lowkey. 4153.3219 3410 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4153.3219 (pause 0.30) 4153.6191 3411 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4153.6191 They trying to like, make it kind of like a touristy type place. 4156.6827 3412 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4156.6827 (pause 0.81) 4157.4893 3413 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4157.4893 But 4157.8344 3414 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4157.8344 (pause 0.90) 4158.7343 3415 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4158.7343 I think 4159.3452 3416 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4159.3452 (pause 0.49) 4159.8336 3417 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4159.8336 at the same time, 4161.0413 3418 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4161.0413 (pause 0.45) 4161.4936 3419 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4161.4936 like, you know, 4162.3423 3420 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4162.3423 (pause 0.83) 4163.1769 3421 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4163.1769 like downtown definitely needs- it needs it. 4165.8057 3422 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4165.8057 (pause 0.35) 4166.1554 3423 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4166.1554 It n- 4166.3839 3424 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4166.3839 (pause 0.14) 4166.5223 3425 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4166.5223 Cause 4167.0413 3426 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4167.0413 (pause 0.62) 4167.6661 3427 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4167.6661 downtown has been barren for a bit. 4169.8111 3428 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4169.8111 (pause 0.67) 4170.4779 3429 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4170.4779 So like, 4171.0048 3430 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4171.0048 (pause 0.35) 4171.3534 3431 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4171.3534 you know, I understand. 4172.4025 3432 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4172.4025 (pause 0.20) 4172.5983 3433 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4172.5983 But at the same it's like, 4174.0765 3434 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4174.0765 (pause 0.66) 4174.7340 3435 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4174.7340 don't forget about 4175.6106 3436 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4175.6106 (pause 1.20) 4176.8089 3437 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4176.8089 us actual people, that actually live in the city, 4179.7361 3438 ROC_int_01 4180.4542 Yeah. 4180.7992 3439 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4180.8319 so. 4181.2469 3440 ROC_int_01 4182.6411 Yeah. 4182.9582 3441 ROC_int_01 4182.9582 (pause 0.51) 4183.4657 3442 ROC_int_01 4183.4657 No I think that's absolutely right. 4185.0553 3443 ROC_int_01 4185.0553 (pause 0.22) 4185.2791 3444 ROC_int_01 4185.2791 4185.8200 3445 ROC_int_01 4185.8200 (pause 0.41) 4186.2350 3446 ROC_int_01 4186.2350 More work to be done. [] 4187.9920 3447 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4187.2828 [] 4188.0582 3448 ROC_int_01 4188.6551 Well, thank you. I'll just wrap up. Uh, do you consent to me still using the interview, 4193.1210 3449 ROC_int_01 4193.1210 (pause 0.11) 4193.2329 3450 ROC_int_01 4193.2329 before I turn off the recorder. Yeah? [Okay.] 4195.4886 3451 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4195.2582 [Yeah.] 4195.4931 3452 ROC_int_01 4195.7654 Always have to ask at the beginning [/and the/ end.] 4197.7314 3453 ROC_se0_ag1_m_01 4197.0786 [] 4197.4237 3454 ROC_int_01 4198.2397 Um, I really appreciate you taking the time out to talk to me. 4201.5334 3455 ROC_int_01 4201.5334 (pause 0.46) 4201.9903 3456 ROC_int_01 4201.9903 Um, 4202.4520 3457 ROC_int_01 4202.4520 (pause 0.17) 4202.6245 3458 ROC_int_01 4202.6245 yeah, 4202.9369 3459 ROC_int_01 4202.9369 (pause 0.18) 4203.1141 3460 ROC_int_01 4203.1141 thanks. 4203.6783