Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_int_01 0.1887 So, um, 1.2152 2 ROC_int_01 1.2152 (pause 0.18) 1.3902 3 ROC_int_01 1.3902 you were born and raised i- Well first, let me ask, [do you] consent [to-] 5.6226 4 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 4.4360 [Mm-hm.] 4.7906 5 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 4.7906 (pause 0.66) 5.4524 6 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 5.4524 [Yes], I consent [] 7.0312 7 ROC_int_01 6.5492 [Okay], [cool.] 7.3387 8 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 7.1790 [to] the [recording.] 8.1310 9 ROC_int_01 7.7197 [] 8.6557 10 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 8.7219 Just don't ever let me hear it because I hate the way my voice sound [recorded.] 12.0568 11 ROC_int_01 11.5312 [Oh, yeah.] 12.1204 12 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 12.1324 There we go. 12.5851 13 ROC_int_01 12.6215 [Easy.] 13.0139 14 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 12.7600 [Alright.] 13.1037 15 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 13.3212 [] 13.9539 16 ROC_int_01 13.4441 [Easy], girl. [] 15.2398 17 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 14.4302 [Okay, perfect.] 15.6262 18 ROC_int_01 16.0517 Okay, 16.5386 19 ROC_int_01 16.5386 (pause 0.27) 16.8081 20 ROC_int_01 16.8081 um, so you were born in Rochester, [New York], right? 19.6974 21 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 18.8323 [Yes.] 19.2625 22 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 19.7778 Yup. 20.0000 23 ROC_int_01 20.1749 And 20.7375 24 ROC_int_01 20.7375 (pause 0.15) 20.8887 25 ROC_int_01 20.8887 what part of the city did you grow up in? 22.8678 26 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 23.1721 Okay, when I was really small, 25.5792 27 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 25.5792 (pause 0.55) 26.1323 28 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 26.1323 from what I'm told, 27.2055 29 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 27.2055 (pause 0.47) 27.6735 30 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 27.6735 we lived 28.2105 31 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 28.2105 (pause 0.22) 28.4342 32 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 28.4342 in the /RD-ADDRESS-2/ area, /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue, 30.6059 33 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 30.6059 (pause 0.65) 31.2544 34 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 31.2544 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ area, and then once we got older, my mother didn't want us in the city schools, so we moved out to /RD-ADDRESS-4/ area. 38.8153 35 ROC_int_01 39.1927 Oh, okay. 39.9065 36 ROC_int_01 39.9065 (pause 0.32) 40.2233 37 ROC_int_01 40.2233 And 40.7077 38 ROC_int_01 40.7077 (pause 0.13) 40.8331 39 ROC_int_01 40.8331 do you remember that transition? 42.5567 40 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 42.6182 I do. I, um, was in 44.7030 41 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 44.7030 (pause 0.34) 45.0386 42 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 45.0386 seventh grade at /RD-SCHOOL-4/, and I got like 47.9157 43 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 47.9157 (pause 0.45) 48.3648 44 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 48.3648 pulled out like, y- you done. 49.7878 45 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 49.7878 (pause 0.13) 49.9163 46 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 49.9163 So we- 50.6018 47 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 50.6018 (pause 0.38) 50.9847 48 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 50.9847 yeah, she took me out, and I started at 52.9560 49 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 52.9560 (pause 0.19) 53.1499 50 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 53.1499 /RD-SCHOOL-9/. 55.5089 51 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 55.5089 (pause 0.39) 55.9021 52 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 55.9021 And me, my sister and brother, we were the only black kids in the whole school. 58.7374 53 ROC_int_01 58.7658 Oh wow. 59.4855 54 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 59.5422 Yeah. 59.7550 55 ROC_int_01 59.8117 What was that 60.6154 56 ROC_int_01 60.6154 (pause 0.33) 60.9463 57 ROC_int_01 60.9463 like? 61.3537 58 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 61.4530 [It was like] a culture shock kind of to be around all of these kids who, they grew up together, they've been together since kindergarten. 69.4243 59 ROC_int_01 61.5475 [Just-] 61.8926 60 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 69.9018 And here, we're out like 70.8237 61 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 70.8237 (pause 0.37) 71.1971 62 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 71.1971 a fly in a bowl of milk 72.5776 63 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 72.5776 (pause 0.84) 73.4199 64 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 73.4199 out of nowhere. 74.7956 65 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 74.7956 (pause 0.64) 75.4385 66 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 75.4385 And I think it was like, right before- 77.8259 67 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 77.8259 (pause 0.69) 78.5161 68 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 78.5161 it was like in 79.0459 69 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 79.0459 (pause 0.10) 79.1410 70 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 79.1410 late October, November, so school had kind of just started. 82.0389 71 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 82.0389 (pause 0.45) 82.4927 72 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 82.4927 The kids were okay for the most part, but it was just so different because 85.8303 73 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 85.8303 (pause 0.43) 86.2566 74 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 86.2566 the neighborhood that we lived in was all 88.8804 75 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 88.8804 (pause 0.45) 89.3342 76 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 89.3342 up and coming black families who moved out there, but then 92.3559 77 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 92.3559 (pause 0.34) 92.6916 78 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 92.6916 we didn't get to go to public school. We were at 94.6866 79 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 94.6866 (pause 0.22) 94.9088 80 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 94.9088 this all white 95.8448 81 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 95.8448 (pause 0.31) 96.1521 82 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 96.1521 Catholic school. 96.9558 83 ROC_int_01 97.0937 Right. 97.5945 84 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 97.6311 [Mm-hm.] 98.0554 85 ROC_int_01 98.0152 [Right.] Okay, and 99.4861 86 ROC_int_01 99.6184 I did not know 100.7956 87 ROC_int_01 100.7956 (pause 0.09) 100.8864 88 ROC_int_01 100.8864 that you went to [/RD-SCHOOL-4/.] 102.3112 89 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 102.0556 [ Mm-hm.] 102.6712 90 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 103.2346 Yup. 103.4970 91 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 103.4970 (pause 0.16) 103.6577 92 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 103.6577 I got in for my grades. [I didn't have a talent, yeah.] 106.8031 93 ROC_int_01 105.4293 [Oh, nice. ] 107.1104 94 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 107.1293 That's when you could go there from just having 109.2945 95 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 109.2945 (pause 0.26) 109.5545 96 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 109.5545 good grades, and you had to have so many teachers recommend you. 112.9544 97 ROC_int_01 113.0206 [Mm-hm.] 113.4744 98 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 113.3716 [And] my si- 114.2425 99 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 114.5144 fifth grade teacher recommended me. It was me and 117.4085 100 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 117.4085 (pause 0.54) 117.9521 101 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 117.9521 one other person from /RD-SCHOOL-4/, cause that's what elementary I went to, that went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 122.9263 102 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 122.9263 (pause 0.64) 123.5692 103 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 123.5692 [Yup.] 123.8481 104 ROC_int_01 123.6401 [Mm, okay], cool. 124.8976 105 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 124.2472 [] 124.3807 106 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 124.9077 Mm-hm. 125.3408 107 ROC_int_01 125.3432 Who woulda known? 126.0056 108 ROC_int_01 126.0056 (pause 0.31) 126.3112 109 ROC_int_01 126.3112 Um, 126.7083 110 ROC_int_01 126.7083 (pause 0.21) 126.9210 111 ROC_int_01 126.9210 so, can you tell me more about your neighborhood? The one that you moved to, you said it [was-] 131.5500 112 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 131.1659 [Oh okay], we lived- it's, um, 133.0392 113 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 133.2283 off of /RD-ADDRESS-2/, if you keep going down, 136.0278 114 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 136.0278 (pause 0.51) 136.5383 115 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 136.5383 it's 137.1576 116 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 137.1576 (pause 0.45) 137.6115 117 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 137.6115 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ off- it's /RD-ADDRESS-1/, you go down /RD-ADDRESS-2/ and it's /RD-ADDRESS-2/, and it was a bunch of 142.9766 118 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 142.9766 (pause 0.41) 143.3879 119 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 143.3879 families, they either worked at Xerox or Kodak. 146.5581 120 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 146.5581 (pause 0.76) 147.3192 121 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 147.3192 [That's] 147.6643 122 ROC_int_01 147.4193 [Okay.] 147.8070 123 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 148.0670 b- 148.2655 124 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 148.2655 (pause 0.14) 148.4074 125 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 148.4074 I don't care. 149.1354 126 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 149.1354 (pause 0.25) 149.3824 127 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 149.3824 149.6286 128 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 149.6286 (pause 0.27) 149.8988 129 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 149.8988 Where you at? Kodak, Kodak, Xerox. 151.6646 130 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 151.6646 (pause 0.18) 151.8490 131 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 151.8490 Kodak, Kodak, Ko- everybody was at Kodak or Xerox. 154.7619 132 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 154.7619 (pause 0.35) 155.1118 133 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 155.1118 And all of the families were black or m- minorities, but it w- 158.3832 134 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 158.3832 (pause 0.70) 159.0856 135 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 159.0856 it was one Puerto Rican family, but everybody else was black. 163.0283 136 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 163.0283 (pause 0.89) 163.9227 137 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 163.9227 [Mm-hm.] 164.3745 138 ROC_int_01 163.9502 [Now], is your mom still over there, [or?] 166.1398 139 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 165.9697 [No], my mother- that was my aunt's house. 168.1741 140 ROC_int_01 168.1465 Okay. 168.4219 141 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 168.4624 My mother loved 169.8854 142 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 169.8854 (pause 0.25) 170.1387 143 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 170.1387 this neighborhood. She lived in Greece for a few years, but 173.1360 144 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 173.1360 (pause 0.33) 173.4630 145 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 173.4630 something brought her right back. She's always lived off of /RD-ADDRESS-2/. 176.6068 146 ROC_int_01 177.0405 Okay. 177.3974 147 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 177.4199 She just recently moved on /RD-ADDRESS-2/. She moved Saturday on /RD-ADDRESS-1/, 181.8712 148 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 181.8712 (pause 0.31) 182.1832 149 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 182.1832 and that's completely out of her comfort zone. She loves the 185.8755 150 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 185.8755 (pause 0.15) 186.0223 151 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 186.0223 area. 186.6295 152 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 186.6295 (pause 0.10) 186.7288 153 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 186.7288 I don't think she love the area. 187.9341 154 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 187.9341 (pause 0.10) 188.0359 155 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 188.0359 It's her comfort zone. 189.1232 156 ROC_int_01 189.4524 [Mm-hm.] 189.9330 157 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 189.5139 [She acts] like 190.3136 158 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 190.4436 anything else is just faux pas, like, no I can't do it. 193.2108 159 ROC_int_01 193.6296 Right, [and so] 194.7925 160 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 194.1496 [Mm-hm.] 194.6223 161 ROC_int_01 195.0667 a lot of the families, just to 196.6776 162 ROC_int_01 196.6776 (pause 0.09) 196.7698 163 ROC_int_01 196.7698 take it back a sec to this, 197.9930 164 ROC_int_01 197.9930 (pause 0.13) 198.1207 165 ROC_int_01 198.1207 uh, in this old neighborhood, they probably aren't working at 200.9911 166 ROC_int_01 200.9911 (pause 0.21) 201.1991 167 ROC_int_01 201.1991 Kodak or [Xerox, right?] 202.4007 168 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 201.7947 [Oh no, most] of them are retired 204.0490 169 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 204.1554 or have moved out of Rochester. 206.1515 170 ROC_int_01 206.6526 Okay. 206.9599 171 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 206.9836 Mm-hm, cause I know a few of 'em, like it's some in Vegas, some in 210.3381 172 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 210.3381 (pause 0.27) 210.6037 173 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 210.6037 North Carolina, 211.8865 174 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 211.8865 (pause 0.12) 212.0106 175 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 212.0106 and then 212.6838 176 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 212.6838 (pause 0.55) 213.2322 177 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 213.2322 a few, 213.9980 178 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 213.9980 (pause 0.67) 214.6693 179 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 214.6693 I would say my- 215.5061 180 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 215.5061 (pause 0.15) 215.6526 181 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 215.6526 my boyfriend's father still lives out there cause that's where we know each other from. 219.6738 182 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 219.6738 (pause 0.93) 220.6012 183 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 220.6012 Besides his dad, it's probably like three or four families that's still left. But it's now predominantly white. 225.6218 184 ROC_int_01 226.7903 [Really?] 227.7122 185 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 227.5372 [Mm-hm.] 227.9958 186 ROC_int_01 228.1802 Okay, so most of the black people then have moved [out of the state] 231.2381 187 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 230.3990 [Mm-hm.] 230.8812 188 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 231.2452 [Yeah.] 231.6566 189 ROC_int_01 231.4603 [at that] point. [Okay.] 232.5736 190 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 232.1883 [Mm-hm.] 232.6445 191 ROC_int_01 232.8787 Okay, I was gonna say, have they moved back to the city? But, [never mind. ] 235.6944 192 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 234.9947 [No, mm-mm.] 235.9307 193 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 236.1104 No. 236.3704 194 ROC_int_01 236.9566 So I was gonna say too that it's great that they could retire [because-] 241.0089 195 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 240.3293 [Mm-hm.] 240.8264 196 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 241.0278 Before everything went 242.6209 197 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 242.6209 (pause 0.37) 242.9944 198 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 242.9944 awry. 243.6279 199 ROC_int_01 243.8501 [Yeah.] 244.4647 200 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 244.1763 [Yeah.] 244.7247 201 ROC_int_01 245.0044 Yeah, cause that downfall of Kodak really 247.7936 202 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 248.3278 [It was a hard one], yeah. [] 250.0211 203 ROC_int_01 248.4082 [/unintelligible/.] 249.2686 204 ROC_int_01 249.2686 (pause 0.72) 249.9916 205 ROC_int_01 249.9916 [/unintelligible/] 251.1357 206 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 250.7717 [] 251.0033 207 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 251.4843 Yes it did, they have so many empty buildings 253.6176 208 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 253.6176 (pause 0.46) 254.0817 209 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 254.0817 in the city like, [you be like], oh, 255.8404 210 ROC_int_01 255.0961 [Mm.] 255.4305 211 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 255.9916 /mm-hm/ 256.2739 212 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 256.2739 (pause 0.12) 256.3982 213 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 256.3982 hi Kodak. 257.1782 214 ROC_int_01 257.3120 Right. 257.8367 215 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 257.9502 Mm-hm. 258.4419 216 ROC_int_01 258.4127 [Right], okay. And so 259.9736 217 ROC_int_01 260.3518 did you s- 260.8670 218 ROC_int_01 260.8670 (pause 0.11) 260.9797 219 ROC_int_01 260.9797 pretty much stay out there from the time- to the time you were a senior in high school [or how] [long /were you-/] 266.1973 220 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 265.3448 [] 265.6899 221 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 265.6899 (pause 0.07) 265.7624 222 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 265.7624 [I gradua-] We lived 267.2197 223 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 267.7692 out there until I was in my freshman year of college, and then my uncle bought a bigger house, 275.1385 224 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 275.1385 (pause 0.48) 275.6159 225 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 275.6159 in 276.1974 226 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 276.1974 (pause 0.16) 276.3581 227 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 276.3581 Greece, on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Drive, right- it's like behind the mall kind of, that little street you can go down to cheat 281.9894 228 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 281.9894 (pause 0.10) 282.0934 229 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 282.0934 the traffic. 283.0389 230 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 283.0389 (pause 0.78) 283.8142 231 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 283.8142 And, um, 284.4855 232 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 284.4855 (pause 0.50) 284.9894 233 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 284.9894 yeah, I 285.3864 234 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 285.3864 (pause 0.09) 285.4793 235 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 285.4793 was predominantly in /RD-ADDRESS-2/, cause I went to /RD-SCHOOL-2/ College. I had an apartment out there. I lived out there, but I would come home s- way too much, probably 292.6724 236 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 292.6724 (pause 0.11) 292.7811 237 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 292.7811 293.0742 238 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 293.0742 (pause 0.39) 293.4666 239 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 293.4666 more than I should've. 294.6296 240 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 294.6296 (pause 0.65) 295.2820 241 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 295.2820 But 295.7972 242 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 295.7972 (pause 0.32) 296.1148 243 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 296.1148 they stayed out there 298.3273 244 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 298.3273 (pause 0.25) 298.5731 245 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 298.5731 in Greece. My brother st- 299.8873 246 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 299.8873 (pause 0.19) 300.0764 247 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 300.0764 went to Greece schools cause he was the last one. 302.3465 248 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 302.3465 (pause 0.41) 302.7530 249 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 302.7530 When my sister graduated, she went to 305.1026 250 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 305.1026 (pause 0.36) 305.4666 251 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 305.4666 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ and stayed in Buffalo for ten years before she came back here. 309.0792 252 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 309.0792 (pause 0.48) 309.5614 253 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 309.5614 I was in /RD-ADDRESS-2/ for years until I 312.2277 254 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 312.2277 (pause 0.28) 312.5066 255 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 312.5066 got pregnant, and then I moved back to the city because I needed help. 315.1501 256 ROC_int_01 315.8782 [Yes, no, I-] 316.7197 257 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 316.0956 [Mm. ] 316.9088 258 ROC_int_01 316.9324 I hear that. 317.6037 259 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 317.5659 Yeah. [] 318.5917 260 ROC_int_01 318.3885 [It's nice] to be around family 319.9927 261 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 319.9655 Mm-hm. 320.5139 262 ROC_int_01 320.6159 when you have kids. 321.7186 263 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 321.6967 Yeah. 322.1252 264 ROC_int_01 322.1394 Um, 322.7279 265 ROC_int_01 322.7279 (pause 0.20) 322.9241 266 ROC_int_01 322.9241 so 323.6309 267 ROC_int_01 323.6309 (pause 0.33) 323.9630 268 ROC_int_01 323.9630 what high schools did you go to [then?] 325.9115 269 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 325.7272 [I] only went to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. 327.8864 270 ROC_int_01 327.9384 [Okay.] 328.3403 271 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 328.1287 [Like] I went 328.9040 272 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 329.0411 from /RD-SCHOOL-4/ to /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 331.8851 273 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 331.8851 (pause 0.40) 332.2822 274 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 332.2822 /RD-SCHOOL-2/, my uncle gave me the choice. He was like, you wanna go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 336.3317 275 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 336.3317 (pause 0.30) 336.6343 276 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 336.6343 or you want to go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/? And I had gotten sick of the r- 340.2327 277 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 340.2327 (pause 0.10) 340.3320 278 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 340.3320 strict regimen 341.4571 279 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 341.4571 (pause 0.36) 341.8212 280 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 341.8212 at the Catholic school, so I was like, 343.2772 281 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 343.2772 (pause 0.36) 343.6365 282 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 343.6365 I wanna go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, and I stayed there for my four years. 347.0033 283 ROC_int_01 347.3626 Oh okay, [cool. So], 348.8470 284 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 347.9441 [Mm-hm.] 348.3648 285 ROC_int_01 349.6184 that I'm guessing- was /RD-SCHOOL-3/ different from the Catholic school in [terms of demographics], or? 354.0757 286 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 352.7575 [Comple-] 353.2113 287 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 354.0828 Um, I mean, 355.2859 288 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 355.2859 (pause 0.61) 355.8946 289 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 355.8946 there were more 357.0528 290 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 357.0528 (pause 0.34) 357.3885 291 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 357.3885 minorities, but it was still predominantly white cause it's- 360.3534 292 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 360.3534 (pause 0.11) 360.4592 293 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 360.4592 it's /RD-SCHOOL-3/. Like it was predominantly white, 362.8212 294 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 362.8212 (pause 0.57) 363.3885 295 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 363.3885 but 363.9558 296 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 363.9558 (pause 0.44) 364.3962 297 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 364.3962 all of the minorities that lived- 366.3993 298 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 366.3993 (pause 0.27) 366.6702 299 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 366.6702 that went to that school lived out there because it 368.7833 300 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 368.7833 (pause 0.14) 368.9204 301 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 368.9204 was no urban suburban program. So everybody lived out there. It was a group of boys that were 373.4596 302 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 373.4596 (pause 0.36) 373.8189 303 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 373.8189 like inner city, all adopted. This woman had a group home out there, okay. 377.5324 304 ROC_int_01 377.5184 Mm-hm. 377.9126 305 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 377.9457 She had a group home out there, so they would- 380.3094 306 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 380.3094 (pause 0.15) 380.4605 307 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 380.4605 it was like a 381.2689 308 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 381.2689 (pause 0.39) 381.6574 309 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 381.6574 rotation of, um, 383.5294 310 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 383.5294 (pause 1.58) 385.1084 311 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 385.1084 inner c- 385.4866 312 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 385.4866 (pause 0.53) 386.0208 313 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 386.0208 inner city youth, [black] 387.3063 314 ROC_int_01 387.0995 [Okay.] 387.4683 315 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 387.5065 youth, 387.8843 316 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 387.8843 (pause 0.68) 388.5603 317 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 388.5603 from this one black woman who lived out there who 391.7655 318 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 391.7655 (pause 0.15) 391.9168 319 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 391.9168 did foster care. 392.8016 320 ROC_int_01 393.3879 Okay, cool. [And] 394.8676 321 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 394.3429 [Mm-hm.] 394.7400 322 ROC_int_01 395.1560 what was high school like? Was it- 396.7698 323 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 396.9004 High school, like the one I like to tell (laughing) people, like they was like, oh how was it at /RD-SCHOOL-3/? I was like, it was like a movie, like 403.2692 324 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 403.2692 (pause 0.30) 403.5670 325 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 403.5670 something out of a movie. Like you see, cause most of those families are well-to-do, 407.9171 326 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 407.9171 (pause 0.42) 408.3378 327 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 408.3378 and everybody- like, I got along with everybody because I- 411.5832 328 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 411.5832 (pause 0.18) 411.7614 329 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 411.7614 I'm my own person. I- 413.4633 330 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 413.4633 (pause 0.47) 413.9360 331 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 413.9360 did all the- 415.1226 332 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 415.1226 (pause 0.28) 415.4015 333 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 415.4015 I did sports, I did cheerleading, I did- I started a step 419.1182 334 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 419.1182 (pause 0.17) 419.2883 335 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 419.2883 team out [there] (laughing) 420.8721 336 ROC_int_01 420.7330 [Yes.] 421.2597 337 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 421.4583 with one of my moth- it was my aunt's friend's niece. She was a sororit- she was in, I wanna say AKA. 427.5812 338 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 427.5812 (pause 0.35) 427.9357 339 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 427.9357 So she helped us. She started the- 429.7768 340 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 429.7768 (pause 0.45) 430.2247 341 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 430.2247 a step team, I did 431.6949 342 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 431.6949 (pause 0.52) 432.2102 343 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 432.2102 Student Union, I worked at the book store. Like I had a nice high school experience. I got good grades, 437.6949 344 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 437.6949 (pause 0.59) 438.2811 345 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 438.2811 I was a black scholar [still. Like, it] was a nice 441.3540 346 ROC_int_01 439.9972 [Mm-hm.] 440.6307 347 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 441.6621 time. It was a good school. 443.0814 348 ROC_int_01 443.4065 Okay. 443.8556 349 ROC_int_01 443.8556 (pause 0.13) 443.9880 350 ROC_int_01 443.9880 Cool. 444.3804 351 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 444.5080 And it was minority teachers 446.0755 352 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 446.0755 (pause 0.07) 446.1441 353 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 446.1441 which I was [shocked.] The- one of the principals was black. 448.8287 354 ROC_int_01 446.6635 [Oh, /what/?] 447.4192 355 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 450.1863 450.2997 356 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 450.2997 (pause 0.18) 450.4841 357 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 450.4841 Mm-hm. And I was 451.4769 358 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 451.4769 (pause 0.11) 451.5856 359 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 451.5856 surprised 452.6162 360 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 452.6162 (pause 0.59) 453.2071 361 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 453.2071 for the area, but it was enough minority teachers where you would 456.7530 362 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 456.7530 (pause 0.09) 456.8399 363 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 456.8399 be able to sit in a class and see somebody that looked like you. 459.2497 364 ROC_int_01 459.4199 Mm-hm. 460.0155 365 ROC_int_01 460.0155 (pause 0.42) 460.4405 366 ROC_int_01 460.4405 Yeah, and so 461.6365 367 ROC_int_01 461.6365 (pause 0.48) 462.1140 368 ROC_int_01 462.1140 I'm guessing, even though you were going out to school, to like this suburban sort of school, did you feel like you participated in a lot of activities in the city, or have [friends in the city?] 472.1757 369 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 471.5281 [Now we-] 472.4121 370 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 472.9321 when I left, I only kept in contact with one person and me and her are very 477.8345 371 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 477.8345 (pause 0.46) 478.2939 372 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 478.2939 close to this day. 479.5845 373 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 479.5845 (pause 0.56) 480.1424 374 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 480.1424 But, um, we would go around family and whatnot, but not 484.0197 375 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 484.0197 (pause 0.32) 484.3365 376 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 484.3365 too often because I rem- my mom didn't want us in that element, and she i- 487.3769 377 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 487.3769 (pause 0.28) 487.6551 378 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 487.6551 was v- very young when she had us, 489.5698 379 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 489.5698 (pause 0.28) 489.8495 380 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 489.8495 and she wanted 490.8234 381 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 490.8234 (pause 0.22) 491.0456 382 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 491.0456 us to have better chances than she did, so we lived with my aunt and uncle. 494.7886 383 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 494.7886 (pause 0.47) 495.2578 384 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 495.2578 My uncle was strict. He didn't play that. He didn't want that. He wasn't with any of the 499.6680 385 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 499.6680 (pause 0.54) 500.2130 386 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 500.2130 like, rap, no. You ain't listening to rap in here. 503.6460 387 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 503.6460 (pause 0.42) 504.0667 388 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 504.0667 Um, certain TV shows we couldn't watch. We couldn't watch TV during the week. 508.3195 389 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 508.3195 (pause 0.17) 508.4850 390 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 508.4850 Well Friday, Saturday, yes. 510.0828 391 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 510.0828 (pause 0.14) 510.2274 392 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 510.2274 Sunday through Thursday, not at all. 511.9302 393 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 511.9302 (pause 0.56) 512.4927 394 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 512.4927 Like he 513.1593 395 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 513.1593 (pause 0.32) 513.4761 396 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 513.4761 was about education. Every week, 515.3481 397 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 515.3481 (pause 0.35) 515.7027 398 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 515.7027 because he knew I liked to write, 516.9933 399 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 516.9933 (pause 0.42) 517.4141 400 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 517.4141 oh I'm gonna hone that skill, you gotta do a current event every week. Like, 520.4925 401 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 520.4925 (pause 0.57) 521.0659 402 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 521.0659 who? 521.3401 403 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 521.3401 (pause 0.38) 521.7230 404 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 521.7230 Even in the summer, like reading lists, writing /this/. 524.3754 405 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 524.3754 (pause 0.39) 524.7608 406 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 524.7608 He was on top of 525.9285 407 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 525.9285 (pause 0.21) 526.1412 408 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 526.1412 education, and then when we were with m- 527.9149 409 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 527.9149 (pause 0.16) 528.0787 410 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 528.0787 our mother and around our family, 529.9193 411 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 529.9193 (pause 0.52) 530.4394 412 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 530.4394 we were the white ones. We were the white kids who talk white and 533.7769 413 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 533.7769 (pause 0.09) 533.8676 414 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 533.8676 all that 534.3826 415 ROC_int_01 534.3659 All [that jazz.] 535.9004 416 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 534.7363 [/good/ stuff, yeah.] 535.8011 417 ROC_int_01 536.0612 Yeah. 536.4535 418 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 536.4819 [Mm-hm.] 536.9263 419 ROC_int_01 536.7183 [Yeah.] 537.2572 420 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 537.5141 Yeah. [] 538.3296 421 ROC_int_01 537.7126 [Um], 538.2847 422 ROC_int_01 539.0186 so, right, it- it's interesting cause it's like, you deal with that stuff 542.5217 423 ROC_int_01 542.5217 (pause 0.13) 542.6549 424 ROC_int_01 542.6549 from black people, but then you have to deal with sort of like 545.3306 425 ROC_int_01 545.3306 (pause 0.58) 545.9074 426 ROC_int_01 545.9074 these racialization in that sort of way [from the white kids at school.] 549.8860 427 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 548.2550 [The one thing-] 548.9594 428 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 548.9594 (pause 0.15) 549.1107 429 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 549.1107 [yeah- yeah], I notice like they expected you to be so street 553.3142 430 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 553.4170 and so hood, and I'm like w- what the hell you talking about. I don't- 557.3137 431 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 557.3137 (pause 0.40) 557.7163 432 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 557.7163 I don't live that life. 558.7375 433 ROC_int_01 558.7706 [Mm-hm.] 559.3436 434 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 559.0022 [And then] like, 559.7680 435 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 560.5339 because I did so many activities, they would come over our house and be like, oh my god this house is so nice. Like what, you thought I was living in squalor? 568.6991 436 ROC_int_01 569.0016 [Right.] 569.3798 437 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 569.1482 [And] my uncle, he was a- 570.5673 438 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 570.7954 um, he loved sports cars, so he would pick us up in a Miata or a Porsche or this because he had so many. 576.3896 439 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 576.3896 (pause 0.40) 576.7867 440 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 576.7867 And they would be shocked because a lot of 578.7628 441 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 578.7628 (pause 0.31) 579.0709 442 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 579.0709 white 579.5247 443 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 579.5247 (pause 0.28) 579.8064 444 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 579.8064 kids weren't used to seeing black people with money or black people that had a little bit of 584.5595 445 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 584.5595 (pause 0.11) 584.6669 446 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 584.6669 anything. 585.4585 447 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 585.4585 (pause 0.56) 586.0211 448 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 586.0211 And like we would have sleepovers and stuff and they're like, oh my god 590.4602 449 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 590.4602 (pause 0.15) 590.6076 450 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 590.6076 your house is so nice. 592.0022 451 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 592.0022 (pause 0.47) 592.4749 452 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 592.4749 And, your hair is so long. How did you get your hair like [that? Like], 596.4508 453 ROC_int_01 595.6120 [/inaudible/], yeah. 596.9074 454 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 597.1154 [that type of] stuff, yeah. 598.8835 455 ROC_int_01 597.1674 [Mm.] 597.6496 456 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 599.4185 And I've never really experienced 600.9076 457 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 600.9076 (pause 0.26) 601.1724 458 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 601.1724 racism being with 603.1012 459 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 603.1012 (pause 0.65) 603.7536 460 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 603.7536 so many kids. I remember in 605.4838 461 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 605.4838 (pause 0.30) 605.7833 462 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 605.7833 eighth grade, a kid made a joke at the 608.0044 463 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 608.0044 (pause 0.34) 608.3401 464 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 608.3401 private school. 609.2288 465 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 609.2288 (pause 0.34) 609.5645 466 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 609.5645 He made a very tasteless joke, and he got kicked out the school 613.3587 467 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 613.3587 (pause 0.51) 613.8721 468 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 613.8721 [because that principal] wasn't for it. 615.8529 469 ROC_int_01 613.8992 [Wow.] 614.5847 470 ROC_int_01 616.4324 That's [really good.] 617.4015 471 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 616.6877 [Mm-hm.] 617.2408 472 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 617.4630 Yeah, and I guess he had a history of doing it. I didn't know because I was newer to the school, but 622.5459 473 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 622.5459 (pause 0.38) 622.9241 474 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 622.9241 he got kicked out. 623.6521 475 ROC_int_01 624.5503 That's really good to be in sort of- 626.2653 476 ROC_int_01 626.2653 (pause 0.11) 626.3712 477 ROC_int_01 626.3712 or feel like you're in an environment [that's like] 628.7302 478 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 628.1554 [Mm-hm.] 628.6282 479 ROC_int_01 629.3306 safe 630.1324 480 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 630.1209 [Mm-hm.] 630.6728 481 ROC_int_01 630.2852 [I guess], in [some sense], 631.7220 482 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 630.8564 [Yeah.] 631.2029 483 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 631.2029 (pause 0.46) 631.6623 484 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 631.6623 [Mm-hm.] 632.0854 485 ROC_int_01 631.8608 [yeah.] 632.2396 486 ROC_int_01 632.4193 Are you still friends with any, 633.9947 487 ROC_int_01 633.9947 (pause 0.64) 634.6376 488 ROC_int_01 634.6376 um, one from high school, I guess, or? 636.6098 489 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 637.0814 637.1239 490 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 637.1239 (pause 0.17) 637.2988 491 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 637.2988 Um, I associate with a lot of people from high school, but 640.7464 492 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 640.7464 (pause 0.14) 640.8878 493 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 640.8878 it's rare because so many people have 642.9724 494 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 642.9724 (pause 0.68) 643.6485 495 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 643.6485 dr- 643.9747 496 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 643.9747 (pause 0.31) 644.2820 497 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 644.2820 drifted apart, and they're so different, and people who you thought like, oh she's gonna be so successful, but 649.1757 498 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 649.1757 (pause 0.38) 649.5539 499 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 649.5539 they're like 650.0834 500 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 650.0834 (pause 0.53) 650.6129 501 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 650.6129 not 651.6433 502 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 651.6433 (pause 0.17) 651.8176 503 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 651.8176 successful, (laughing) or 653.2808 504 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 653.2808 (pause 0.22) 653.4975 505 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 653.4975 not living the type of lifestyle that I'm around, be it drinking all the time or drugs, and 658.4763 506 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 658.4763 (pause 0.27) 658.7505 507 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 658.7505 some of 'em have moved away. 660.2822 508 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 660.2822 (pause 0.51) 660.7881 509 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 660.7881 And 661.4688 510 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 661.4688 (pause 0.17) 661.6390 511 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 661.6390 it's just- 662.1986 512 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 662.1986 (pause 0.27) 662.4711 513 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 662.4711 I would run in to 'em regularly because most of them are still in Rochester but 666.8448 514 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 666.8448 (pause 0.46) 667.3034 515 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 667.3034 nobody that I hang with now. 668.7925 516 ROC_int_01 669.3220 Mm. 669.6056 517 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 669.9941 [No.] 670.3907 518 ROC_int_01 670.0887 [Yeah.] 670.4669 519 ROC_int_01 670.8025 Okay. 671.4360 520 ROC_int_01 671.4360 (pause 0.25) 671.6866 521 ROC_int_01 671.6866 So it came time to gr- 673.0623 522 ROC_int_01 673.0623 (pause 0.19) 673.2561 523 ROC_int_01 673.2561 for graduation and you pick /RD-SCHOOL-2/ for the next [phase. /What did you-/] 678.3011 524 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 677.4656 [I did not pick /RD-SCHOOL-2/. ] 680.3576 525 ROC_int_01 678.5186 [No? Oh, tell me the story, girl.] [] 681.3267 526 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 680.8650 [I'm sorry.] I did not. I picked 682.8518 527 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 683.2110 a b- 683.5136 528 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 683.5136 (pause 0.34) 683.8493 529 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 683.8493 s- 683.9627 530 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 683.9627 (pause 0.11) 684.0683 531 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 684.0683 ton of HBCUs that I did not get into, 688.1824 532 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 688.1824 (pause 0.29) 688.4716 533 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 688.4716 and I was shocked. 689.6298 534 ROC_int_01 690.0553 Wait, no. [I don't believe this.] 691.9522 535 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 691.0658 [Mm-hm.] 691.4700 536 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 691.4700 (pause 0.41) 691.8789 537 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 691.8789 [Spelman], number one, did not get into- I picked schools in the South 695.9296 538 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 696.2180 because I wante- I had just went to a 698.1193 539 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 698.1193 (pause 0.25) 698.3651 540 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 698.3651 high school with 698.9950 541 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 698.9950 (pause 0.11) 699.1061 542 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 699.1061 predominantly white kids. I wanted the- 701.0219 543 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 701.0219 (pause 0.25) 701.2678 544 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 701.2678 be around 702.3078 545 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 702.3078 (pause 0.13) 702.4402 546 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 702.4402 black 702.9752 547 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 702.9752 (pause 0.17) 703.1415 548 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 703.1415 people, black minori- like 705.0506 549 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 705.0506 (pause 0.24) 705.2883 550 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 705.2883 people learning and 706.5695 551 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 706.5695 (pause 0.27) 706.8390 552 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 706.8390 bettering themselves. 707.9688 553 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 707.9688 (pause 0.61) 708.5779 554 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 708.5779 I was- 709.1570 555 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 709.1570 (pause 0.14) 709.2965 556 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 709.2965 I did track. I did everything. I graduated with like a three point nine GPA. 714.0945 557 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 714.0945 (pause 0.41) 714.5042 558 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 714.5042 I did not get into Spelman. 716.1604 559 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 716.1604 (pause 0.23) 716.3873 560 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 716.3873 They said I didn't get in because I didn't have enough curricular activities, (laughing) extracurricular activities. 721.0514 561 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 721.0514 (pause 1.09) 722.1435 562 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 722.1435 Yup. 722.3987 563 ROC_int_01 722.9716 I'm sorry. [My face is] just shocked. 724.8673 564 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 723.6167 [Mm-hm.] 723.9831 565 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 724.9030 Yup, I didn't get into Howard either. 727.0091 566 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 727.0091 (pause 0.84) 727.8470 567 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 727.8470 And Howard is like- 729.1471 568 ROC_int_01 731.2138 I am [shocked.] 732.2822 569 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 732.0210 [Mm-hm.] 732.4441 570 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 733.0528 /Sorry to-/ And then it was something like 735.5584 571 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 735.5584 (pause 0.58) 736.1407 572 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 736.1407 my first application for /RD-SCHOOL-2/, they were like, oh, 739.6816 573 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 739.6816 (pause 0.50) 740.1827 574 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 740.1827 um, because even though we didn't live with my mother, she still like did the taxes and stuff for us because she had to. 746.3292 575 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 746.3292 (pause 0.49) 746.8162 576 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 746.8162 And, um, she was a nurse, a CNA, but she worked two full-time jobs. 750.5470 577 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 750.5470 (pause 0.31) 750.8590 578 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 750.8590 So they were like, oh you don't qualify for EOP. I'm like, who the hell selected EOP on my application. So that was 757.0169 579 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 757.0169 (pause 0.29) 757.3109 580 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 757.3109 /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 758.0720 581 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 758.0720 (pause 0.39) 758.4644 582 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 758.4644 So I had to wait til the next semester, so my first 761.4817 583 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 761.4817 (pause 0.25) 761.7311 584 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 761.7311 freshman 762.4165 585 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 762.4165 (pause 0.17) 762.5867 586 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 762.5867 year, first semester, I was at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 764.3812 587 ROC_int_01 764.7027 Okay. 765.1221 588 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 765.1339 Mm-hm. 765.5742 589 ROC_int_01 765.9299 Okay. 766.4074 590 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 766.4405 Yeah. 766.8659 591 ROC_int_01 766.9747 And 767.4521 592 ROC_int_01 767.4521 (pause 0.65) 768.0998 593 ROC_int_01 768.0998 how was /RD-SCHOOL-3/ for that [one-] 769.6182 594 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 769.5137 [Easy] as [hell, like] I had high school classes that I thought was harder than those classes. 773.7445 595 ROC_int_01 770.2138 [Yeah.] 770.5400 596 ROC_int_01 770.5400 (pause 3.19) 773.7256 597 ROC_int_01 773.7256 Wow. 774.1818 598 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 774.2243 774.7018 599 ROC_int_01 774.7881 Yeah. 775.1615 600 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 775.3412 I had straight A's pretty much. 777.2605 601 ROC_int_01 777.5915 And 778.1729 602 ROC_int_01 778.1729 (pause 0.45) 778.6276 603 ROC_int_01 778.6276 did you associate with anybody there, or was it just like come 781.9274 604 ROC_int_01 781.9274 (pause 0.24) 782.1685 605 ROC_int_01 782.1685 to school, 782.7232 606 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 782.6838 [When I got there, it] was a- I saw a lot of people that I went to high school with who probably didn't get into college of their choices also, so they were there. 790.7080 607 ROC_int_01 782.8698 [/inaudible/] 783.7467 608 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 791.3403 I didn't really- 792.3472 609 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 792.3472 (pause 0.26) 792.6025 610 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 792.6025 I associated with a few people because, you know, like, people assume like, you black, so you come talk 798.3531 611 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 798.3531 (pause 0.17) 798.5233 612 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 798.5233 with the black people. 799.7903 613 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 799.7903 (pause 0.33) 800.1212 614 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 800.1212 But it was different, like they were doing stuff that I wasn't 803.0200 615 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 803.0200 (pause 0.20) 803.2233 616 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 803.2233 used to like, 804.3626 617 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 804.3626 (pause 0.66) 805.0209 618 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 805.0209 um, what- what- what club is that? I don't know about that, like I don't go out yet. Like I wasn't into that, so it was a few people that I talked to, but I couldn't tell you their names right now. 815.0121 619 ROC_int_01 815.0146 Okay. 815.3550 620 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 815.3283 I wouldn't even know. 816.2891 621 ROC_int_01 816.4341 [Yeah.] 816.7296 622 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 816.4530 [I probably] wouldn't recognize 'em on the street. 818.0125 623 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 818.2630 [It's sad.] 818.7594 624 ROC_int_01 818.3678 [Yeah.] 818.6219 625 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 819.0740 [ I wouldn't.] 819.7000 626 ROC_int_01 819.2087 [] 820.2904 627 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 820.5646 I wouldn't. 821.1319 628 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 821.1319 (pause 0.81) 821.9438 629 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 821.9438 Yeah, and then I went there for a semester and redid my 825.2019 630 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 825.2019 (pause 0.22) 825.4241 631 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 825.4241 /RD-SCHOOL-2/ application, and then I moved in 827.7783 632 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 827.7783 (pause 0.46) 828.2369 633 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 828.2369 in January 829.1068 634 ROC_int_01 829.6451 [Okay.] 830.0044 635 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 829.8531 [to] /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 830.5670 636 ROC_int_01 830.9168 Did you like /RD-SCHOOL-2/? 832.1932 637 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 832.4438 I liked /RD-SCHOOL-2/. It was a nice school, and it was- 834.7327 638 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 834.7327 (pause 0.91) 835.6416 639 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 835.6416 it was a mix, like it was- 837.5456 640 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 837.5456 (pause 0.27) 837.8150 641 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 837.8150 it's a- 838.1507 642 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 838.1507 (pause 0.29) 838.4391 643 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 838.4391 I thought it was a mix. It was just as many black kids as it was white kids. The professors were cool. The campus was big. It was cold as heck, 845.7287 644 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 845.7287 (pause 0.13) 845.8629 645 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 845.8629 but 846.1938 646 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 846.1938 (pause 0.40) 846.5956 647 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 846.5956 the campus was 847.6026 648 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 847.6026 (pause 0.56) 848.1604 649 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 848.1604 big. It was an adjustment for me 850.4013 650 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 850.4013 (pause 0.52) 850.9260 651 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 850.9260 to know like, even though you not at home, you gotta still do your work, you gotta still do stuff. It was a bit of an adjustment. 856.8978 652 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 856.8978 (pause 0.55) 857.4521 653 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 857.4521 And then I really didn't like my roommate, 858.9980 654 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 858.9980 (pause 0.47) 859.4703 655 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 859.4703 uh, cause she was annoying. She was like a theater major. 861.7030 656 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 861.7030 (pause 0.69) 862.3932 657 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 862.3932 Oh I still talk to her though. [] 864.9884 658 ROC_int_01 863.8520 [] 864.5375 659 ROC_int_01 864.5375 (pause 0.45) 864.9865 660 ROC_int_01 864.9865 I was gonna say what- what was [she doing?] 866.7230 661 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 866.1118 [We still converse.] Yeah, she's pursuing her acting. She lives in New York City, yeah. 870.5292 662 ROC_int_01 870.5080 [Oh that's great.] 871.3102 663 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 870.7993 [Cause she was from] the city, 871.8378 664 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 872.1592 so she live- she moved back when she finished, and 874.8721 665 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 874.8721 (pause 0.14) 875.0092 666 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 875.0092 I don't- wait, I don't think she finished. 876.4132 667 ROC_int_01 876.8529 So what about her annoyed you I guess, the most? Was she making too much noise in the [morning, or?] 881.3117 668 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 880.7964 [No, it] was just like, 882.2761 669 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 882.4132 you know how some people go to school and they like find themselves and turn into a whole nother [person, like], and I was like, who is this girl? Because 889.6896 670 ROC_int_01 887.4563 [Yeah.] 887.8771 671 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 890.3034 I wasn't with them the first semester freshman year, 893.3798 672 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 893.3798 (pause 0.23) 893.6143 673 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 893.6143 so I'm coming in new to a lot of these people 896.1766 674 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 896.1766 (pause 0.39) 896.5650 675 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 896.5650 and, they're just like whispering in my ear about her. I'm like, well that's- I don't got nothing to do with that. And then because 903.7820 676 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 903.7820 (pause 0.32) 904.1034 677 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 904.1034 she introduced herself to me as a lesbian, 906.7516 678 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 906.7516 (pause 0.37) 907.1204 679 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 907.1204 and I'm like, oh okay, that's your business. And then (laughing) 909.3990 680 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 909.3990 (pause 0.32) 909.7205 681 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 909.7205 /oh/ I guess she done slept with everybody (laughing) 911.5852 682 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 911.5852 (pause 0.28) 911.8676 683 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 911.8676 the first semester so she gay now. (laughing) 913.7680 684 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 913.7680 (pause 0.50) 914.2692 685 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 914.2692 And I'm like, 914.9263 686 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 914.9263 (pause 1.27) 916.1932 687 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 916.1932 well, 916.9071 688 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 916.9071 (pause 0.63) 917.5414 689 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 917.5414 that's y'all, 918.6098 690 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 918.6098 (pause 0.14) 918.7516 691 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 918.7516 and I just- 919.5837 692 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 919.5837 (pause 0.18) 919.7680 693 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 919.7680 it was just a- oh no. 920.9925 694 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 920.9925 (pause 0.49) 921.4841 695 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 921.4841 The company that she kept, like, 923.1246 696 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 923.1246 (pause 0.37) 923.4902 697 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 923.4902 [She would have people in] and out of the room all the time. And I'm a private person, [so I don't] like stuff- 927.7441 698 ROC_int_01 923.5776 [Mm-hm.] 924.3340 699 ROC_int_01 924.3340 (pause 2.42) 926.7574 700 ROC_int_01 926.7574 [Yes.] 927.1793 701 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 927.9049 Not private, but 928.8882 702 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 928.8882 (pause 0.49) 929.3829 703 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 929.3829 if I come in and you sitting on my bed 930.9505 704 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 930.9505 (pause 0.16) 931.1112 705 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 931.1112 with your outside clothes, we got a problem. 933.4749 706 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 933.4749 (pause 0.28) 933.7519 707 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 933.7519 [Like don't cross] this threshold. 935.7847 708 ROC_int_01 933.8254 [Yeah.] 934.4376 709 ROC_int_01 936.3278 I'm the [same.] 937.0039 710 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 936.6635 [M- yeah.] 937.5948 711 ROC_int_01 938.2994 [Yeah.] 938.6540 712 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 938.3159 [Mm-hm.] 938.9163 713 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 939.0014 939.0865 714 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 939.0865 (pause 0.18) 939.2685 715 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 939.2685 But 939.5616 716 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 939.5616 (pause 0.17) 939.7330 717 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 939.7330 other than that, like 940.6832 718 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 940.6832 (pause 0.65) 941.3309 719 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 941.3309 it was nice. I was, um, an English major and a African American literature minor, 946.0529 720 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 946.0529 (pause 0.10) 946.1522 721 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 946.1522 and I learned a lot 947.0945 722 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 947.0945 (pause 1.03) 948.1293 723 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 948.1293 [from a few] of those African professors. They ain't no joke. (laughing) 950.8618 724 ROC_int_01 948.2676 [Yeah.] 948.6363 725 ROC_int_01 951.2617 Yeah, [I was gonna say, how were] the professors? 953.4127 726 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 951.5831 [No joke.] 952.3159 727 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 953.4268 Um, I'll never forget this one professor. His name was- he recently passed away in the winter, Dr. /RD-NAME-5/, like 960.1265 728 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 960.1265 (pause 0.75) 960.8810 729 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 960.8810 he will open your eyes, talking about 963.2163 730 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 963.2163 (pause 0.36) 963.5803 731 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 963.5803 education and just 965.4580 732 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 965.4580 (pause 0.31) 965.7653 733 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 965.7653 history, black history, 967.4388 734 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 967.4388 (pause 0.26) 967.6988 735 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 967.6988 not just black American history. Like he is- 970.2469 736 ROC_int_01 970.3990 [Hm.] 970.6354 737 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 970.4983 [he was] 970.7993 738 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 970.9482 a very smart man, and he was good. I took every class that he offered. 974.0912 739 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 974.0912 (pause 0.45) 974.5403 740 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 974.5403 And I got a A in every class that he offered 976.6346 741 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 976.6346 (pause 0.14) 976.7709 742 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 976.7709 because his 977.4627 743 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 977.4627 (pause 0.45) 977.9118 744 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 977.9118 policy is like you- I'm not giving you multiple choice answers, like he'll give you a topic, 982.3509 745 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 982.3509 (pause 0.82) 983.1696 746 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 983.1696 and you gotta come up with this essay. 984.8384 747 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 984.8384 (pause 0.49) 985.3312 748 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 985.3312 That's your test, like 986.3524 749 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 986.3524 (pause 0.35) 986.7010 750 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 986.7010 no you can't leave. You gotta sit right here. No it's not open book. You gonna sit right here and write this essay. But it was a nice class. 992.9138 751 ROC_int_01 993.3392 Yeah. 993.6843 752 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 993.8356 Mm-hm. 994.3793 753 ROC_int_01 994.5456 D- uh, so 995.5762 754 ROC_int_01 995.5762 (pause 0.15) 995.7274 755 ROC_int_01 995.7274 995.8354 756 ROC_int_01 995.8354 (pause 0.16) 995.9922 757 ROC_int_01 995.9922 I guess, what are your like favorite, if you can pick like some of your 999.4574 758 ROC_int_01 999.4574 (pause 0.23) 999.6891 759 ROC_int_01 999.6891 top moments from college, or favorite things, experiences? 1003.5144 760 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1003.5271 1003.6005 761 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1003.6005 (pause 0.14) 1003.7425 762 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1003.7425 Um, one of my- I would say when my 1006.7384 763 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1006.7384 (pause 0.08) 1006.8152 764 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1006.8152 uncle, like my uncle came out 1008.4789 765 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1008.4789 (pause 0.17) 1008.6491 766 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1008.6491 ever- Even though 1009.5584 767 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1009.5584 (pause 0.35) 1009.9082 768 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1009.9082 like 1010.2533 769 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1010.2533 (pause 0.37) 1010.6268 770 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1010.6268 I was at /RD-SCHOOL-2/, we lived 1012.3192 771 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1012.3192 (pause 0.28) 1012.5981 772 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1012.5981 /RD-ADDRESS-4/ border, 1014.0542 773 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1014.0542 (pause 0.23) 1014.2886 774 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1014.2886 he came out once a week for lunch and, let me walk around the campus with you, let me hang with you, [chill with you.] 1019.7375 775 ROC_int_01 1019.0756 [Mm-hm.] 1019.6287 776 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1020.2158 And what else? /Well/ having my little brother able to come and see people like, 1024.3707 777 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1024.3707 (pause 0.19) 1024.5615 778 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1024.5615 oh it's people out here, people in college. I brought him to a couple of games. 1028.3120 779 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1028.3120 (pause 0.32) 1028.6335 780 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1028.6335 Just tryna l- show him because 1030.1707 781 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1030.1707 (pause 0.52) 1030.6955 782 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1030.6955 like, in our family, my sister 1033.3682 783 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1033.3682 (pause 0.35) 1033.7172 784 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1033.7172 is the first person I can remember that graduated from college, and she's only two years older than me. 1037.7391 785 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1037.7391 (pause 0.58) 1038.3214 786 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1038.3214 And then, um, 1039.5033 787 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1039.5033 (pause 0.40) 1039.9051 788 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1039.9051 just the experience of being around 1041.8387 789 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1041.8387 (pause 0.50) 1042.3351 790 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1042.3351 other people, be it black, white, whatever, who take their education seriously because a lot of people 1047.4031 791 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1047.4031 (pause 0.15) 1047.5576 792 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1047.5576 don't. 1048.1743 793 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1048.1743 (pause 0.70) 1048.8707 794 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1048.8707 And, uh, 1049.6507 795 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1049.6507 (pause 0.33) 1049.9809 796 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1049.9809 1050.1085 797 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1050.1085 (pause 0.54) 1050.6510 798 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1050.6510 it was just an experience of being 1052.6003 799 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1052.6003 (pause 0.10) 1052.6972 800 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1052.6972 adult-like, away from home, like you gotta 1055.6460 801 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1055.6460 (pause 0.38) 1056.0242 802 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1056.0242 figure this out for yourself. Like when it came to what, financial aid that you gotta do for school, I'm like, what's that? 1061.4569 803 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1061.4569 (pause 0.89) 1062.3504 804 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1062.3504 Uh, what? I don't know, I'm not doing that. 1064.2847 805 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1064.2847 (pause 0.26) 1064.5400 806 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1064.5400 And then it was a guy. He's still there, and I actually work with his mom now. His name is /RD-NAME-2/. 1069.6560 807 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1069.6560 (pause 0.43) 1070.0815 808 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1070.0815 And he's an admissions counselor at /RD-SCHOOL-2/ now. 1072.9699 809 ROC_int_01 1072.9889 Okay. 1073.4001 810 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1073.4616 And he helped me a lot. He helped a lot of the black students because it was like 1076.8918 811 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1076.8918 (pause 0.86) 1077.7522 812 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1077.7522 at /RD-SCHOOL-2/- at a lot of these schools I'm seeing, because my godsister's going through the same thing, 1082.1921 813 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1082.1921 (pause 0.33) 1082.5183 814 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1082.5183 okay, 1082.9690 815 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1082.9690 (pause 0.10) 1083.0659 816 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1083.0659 if you're a black student or a minority student, they assume you're EOP. 1086.7853 817 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1086.7853 (pause 1.75) 1088.5400 818 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1088.5400 So if you're not EOP, it's like, you figure it out by yourself. 1091.3718 819 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1091.3718 (pause 0.53) 1091.9060 820 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1091.9060 But he was there to help and get (laughing) 1094.2895 821 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1094.2895 (pause 0.44) 1094.7338 822 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1094.7338 us like, oh no you gotta do this like this, and this paperwork. But 1098.3740 823 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1098.3740 (pause 0.56) 1098.9374 824 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1098.9374 the oth- the EOP advisors could care [less.] 1101.4099 825 ROC_int_01 1101.3484 [Mm-hm.] 1101.8117 826 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1102.1190 Care [less.] 1102.7383 827 ROC_int_01 1102.5445 [No], I had the same 1104.0194 828 ROC_int_01 1104.1593 [experience] when I went to U of [R.] 1106.1543 829 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1104.4855 [Yeah] 1104.8968 830 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1104.8968 (pause 1.22) 1106.1165 831 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1106.1165 [Mm-hm.] 1106.5956 832 ROC_int_01 1106.5183 [I-] I mean, 1107.1991 833 ROC_int_01 1107.4544 nobody told me to fill out EOP, so I just didn't. 1109.9560 834 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1109.9122 Mm-hm, you [wouldn't have got it.] 1110.8873 835 ROC_int_01 1110.4288 [/Yeah/.] 1110.7833 836 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1111.1095 You [wouldn't have got it anyway.] (laughing) 1113.2863 837 ROC_int_01 1111.8659 [Yeah.] 1112.3812 838 ROC_int_01 1112.3812 (pause 0.61) 1112.9958 839 ROC_int_01 1112.9958 [And so] like, you know, when I first came, 1115.3320 840 ROC_int_01 1115.5920 all the black kids who were in EOP were like really 1118.8351 841 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1118.9513 [Clicky.] 1119.3248 842 ROC_int_01 1118.9891 [clicky.] 1119.3673 843 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1119.6164 Because they get there, what, like four weeks before everybody else, so they have 1123.7856 844 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1123.7856 (pause 0.40) 1124.1874 845 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1124.1874 all the- they take 'em 1125.5631 846 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1125.5631 (pause 0.08) 1125.6386 847 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1125.6386 to Darien Lake and trips like that, so you have somebody there that you know. 1130.4407 848 ROC_int_01 1130.6346 Mm-hm. 1131.1782 849 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1131.3201 But it's like, what if you're not in 1133.0267 850 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1133.0267 (pause 0.09) 1133.1153 851 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1133.1153 EOP? 1134.1187 852 ROC_int_01 1134.7630 And what if you still need help with [tutoring and like] need, yeah. And you don't [get those] resources if you're not in it [so, uh, yeah.] 1142.0044 853 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1136.0923 [Mm-hm.] 1136.5934 854 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1136.5934 (pause 0.47) 1137.0614 855 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1137.0614 [Mm-hm.] 1137.6571 856 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1137.6571 (pause 1.30) 1138.9619 857 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1138.9619 [Yup.] 1139.2786 858 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1139.2786 (pause 1.92) 1141.1980 859 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1141.1980 [Mm-hm.] 1141.7605 860 ROC_int_01 1142.0895 I can totally relate. 1143.0917 861 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1143.1059 Yeah, I had no idea what EOP was until- 1145.7561 862 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1145.7561 (pause 0.74) 1146.4983 863 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1146.4983 like they would all be leaving like, cause you know you- I started hanging around 1150.0306 864 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1150.0306 (pause 0.10) 1150.1298 865 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1150.1298 a lot of the black girls or whatever, and they be like, oh we gotta go and meet with Mr.- 1153.8456 866 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1153.8456 (pause 0.19) 1154.0395 867 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1154.0395 with /RD-NAME-2/. 1154.7202 868 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1154.7202 (pause 0.28) 1155.0047 869 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1155.0047 It was this black man 1156.1346 870 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1156.1346 (pause 0.40) 1156.5364 871 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1156.5364 who headed the program. I was like, what? 1158.3139 872 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1158.3139 (pause 0.51) 1158.8198 873 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1158.8198 Oh you coming? I said, I don't know who that is. 1160.6143 874 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1160.6143 (pause 0.27) 1160.8885 875 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1160.8885 Like, (laughing) 1161.5314 876 ROC_int_01 1161.8718 [Mm-hm.] 1162.4107 877 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1161.9663 [I have no] idea who that is, so 1164.0662 878 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1164.3025 they would go. And they was like, you're not in EOP? I was like, what's that? And they told me. I said, oh nah. 1169.5358 879 ROC_int_01 1169.7069 Mm-hm. 1170.1824 880 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1170.1591 And then again, to like stereotypes, when they came to my house, a lot of them were from the city, like Brooklyn and stuff. 1175.5311 881 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1175.9432 They thought we lived in a castle, but it was a 1178.3887 882 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1178.3887 (pause 0.09) 1178.4755 883 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1178.4755 starter home. It was a three bedroom, 1180.8362 884 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1180.8362 (pause 0.47) 1181.3050 885 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1181.3050 one and a half bath starter home. But they were like, oh that's why you don't get EOP. I'm like, 1185.9285 886 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1185.9285 (pause 0.90) 1186.8267 887 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1186.8267 I'm broke B. Like, what do you want? (laughing) 1188.9927 888 ROC_int_01 1189.0495 Mm-hm. 1189.6026 889 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1189.7964 Yeah, it was- 1190.5055 890 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1190.5055 (pause 0.69) 1191.1957 891 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1191.1957 you learn stuff. 1192.0372 892 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1192.0372 (pause 0.09) 1192.1251 893 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1192.1251 [] 1192.6877 894 ROC_int_01 1192.2169 [Yeah.] 1192.7379 895 ROC_int_01 1192.8047 Right. 1193.3259 896 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1193.3779 Mm-hm. 1193.8506 897 ROC_int_01 1193.8743 Right, but EOP, that whole experience is weird, and then, being expected to be in it. 1198.9241 898 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1198.9666 Mm-hm. 1199.5018 899 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1199.5018 (pause 0.11) 1199.6095 900 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1199.6095 They assume that you're in it. 1201.1081 901 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1201.1081 (pause 0.40) 1201.5080 902 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1201.5080 But I think it's a good program. Like, most of the kids that were in it did graduate on time. 1205.7703 903 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1205.7703 (pause 0.17) 1205.9452 904 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1205.9452 They [finished.] 1206.6354 905 ROC_int_01 1206.2903 [Yeah.] 1206.5976 906 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1206.7252 Mm-hm. 1207.1507 907 ROC_int_01 1207.2452 And with minimal 1208.3846 908 ROC_int_01 1208.3846 (pause 0.06) 1208.4455 909 ROC_int_01 1208.4455 debt, [right.] 1209.2158 910 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1209.0504 [Yep.] 1209.3096 911 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1210.4466 Or almost none, right? 1211.5812 912 ROC_int_01 1211.5528 Yeah, I- [my friend-] 1212.9143 913 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1212.2430 [Mm-hm.] 1212.5645 914 ROC_int_01 1213.1649 U of R was too expensive to walk away with none. I don't [know-] 1215.4396 915 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1215.1749 [Yeah.] [] 1216.4419 916 ROC_int_01 1215.6145 [not one person] 1216.7728 917 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1216.8342 [] 1217.3212 918 ROC_int_01 1217.0895 [who ain't got nothing] 1218.0066 919 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1217.9168 [Yeah, and it steady crawling] up. 1219.6118 920 ROC_int_01 1218.0917 [] 1218.8324 921 ROC_int_01 1219.7005 You know, but, I do know this one girl 1222.3206 922 ROC_int_01 1222.3206 (pause 0.64) 1222.9585 923 ROC_int_01 1222.9585 who was in it. She only had like three thousand. Somebody else I know had like maybe fifteen [hundred.] 1228.1123 924 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1228.0650 That's [crazy. I] wish. 1229.7386 925 ROC_int_01 1228.6985 [Yeah.] 1229.1287 926 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1229.9324 I just, in March, paid off all my loans. 1232.5467 927 ROC_int_01 1233.2605 [Congratulations.] 1234.8593 928 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1233.8618 [I just signed for another] one. 1235.2138 929 ROC_int_01 1235.7102 [Yeah.] 1236.0656 930 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1235.9702 [Yeah, like I] just (laughing) signed for another one. 1238.3481 931 ROC_int_01 1236.4808 [/So did I/.] 1236.9432 932 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1238.7689 But it was, um, 1239.6907 933 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1239.6907 (pause 0.27) 1239.9630 934 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1239.9630 a learn- like you learn more signing up for school and maintaining 1244.2185 935 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1244.2185 (pause 0.26) 1244.4833 936 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1244.4833 your financial services than you do in school, like 1247.5703 937 ROC_int_01 1247.9107 Yeah. 1248.1723 938 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1248.1605 /you-/ (laughing) depending on your major. 1249.7430 939 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1249.9132 But it was- 1250.4758 940 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1250.4758 (pause 0.78) 1251.2605 941 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1251.2605 it was a trip. 1251.6246 942 ROC_int_01 1251.9677 Yeah. 1252.3696 943 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1252.4357 [Mm-hm.] 1253.0976 944 ROC_int_01 1252.5256 [Okay, and] so when you went in with, uh, the major English, did you expect to be- 1257.4071 945 ROC_int_01 1257.8231 like, you know, write stories or [be a journalist?] 1260.9394 946 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1260.0695 [I went in as a] journalist major, but it was a professor who I could not stand, 1265.3651 947 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1265.7598 and most of the classes I would have had to take with her. 1268.5395 948 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1268.5395 (pause 0.33) 1268.8704 949 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1268.8704 So my academic advisor told me that you could still be a English major and work- 1273.3293 950 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1273.3293 (pause 0.11) 1273.4380 951 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1273.4380 he said you can do more with a English degree 1275.4798 952 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1275.4798 (pause 0.28) 1275.7639 953 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1275.7639 than you can a journalism degree. He was like, with English you can teach y- and you do c- can do journalism and write. 1281.7876 954 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1281.7876 (pause 0.28) 1282.0657 955 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1282.0657 I wanted to be a writer. 1283.3871 956 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1283.3871 (pause 0.11) 1283.4958 957 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1283.4958 I have a few things that 1285.1922 958 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1285.1922 (pause 0.35) 1285.5420 959 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1285.5420 have been published. 1286.8610 960 ROC_int_01 1287.5748 [/Mm-hm/.] 1288.2253 961 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1287.6946 [I gotta find] 'em. I- I have 'em. They're in one of these briefcases, but 1291.4305 962 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1291.9608 I never pursued it because once I started doing the 1295.3079 963 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1295.3079 (pause 0.19) 1295.4936 964 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1295.4936 student teaching and stuff, it turned me off. 1297.5785 965 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1297.5785 (pause 0.26) 1297.8337 966 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1297.8337 And then 1298.4354 967 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1298.4354 (pause 0.22) 1298.6563 968 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1298.6563 once you- 1299.5332 969 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1299.5332 (pause 0.17) 1299.7067 970 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1299.7067 like, say, 1300.2550 971 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1300.2550 (pause 0.25) 1300.5009 972 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1300.5009 English is my major, I have to 1302.1424 973 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1302.1424 (pause 0.52) 1302.6661 974 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1302.6661 pick American lit or British lit or Old English, like it was annoying. I'm like- 1307.6327 975 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1307.6327 (pause 1.23) 1308.8674 976 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1308.8674 /But/ 1309.2692 977 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1309.2692 (pause 0.93) 1310.1958 978 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1310.1958 yeah. 1310.5882 979 ROC_int_01 1310.7584 Yeah. 1311.1413 980 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1311.6519 [Mm-hm.] 1312.1010 981 ROC_int_01 1311.7322 [Yeah.] 1312.0632 982 ROC_int_01 1312.5217 Okay. 1313.0134 983 ROC_int_01 1313.0134 (pause 0.34) 1313.3490 984 ROC_int_01 1313.3490 Um, what was your first job out 1315.4536 985 ROC_int_01 1315.4536 (pause 0.35) 1315.7987 986 ROC_int_01 1315.7987 of college? 1316.5787 987 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1316.6071 1317.2453 988 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1317.2453 (pause 0.34) 1317.5892 989 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1317.5892 I worked for /RD-WORK-8/. 1320.6991 990 ROC_int_01 1321.0490 [/Really?/] 1321.5265 991 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1321.4603 [Mm-hm.] 1321.9614 992 ROC_int_01 1322.0938 [Cool.] 1322.4861 993 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1322.2261 [ Yup], and I was there for eight years. 1324.2995 994 ROC_int_01 1324.9897 So what were you doing there? 1326.4750 995 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1327.0990 Working in a group home with people with disabilities. 1329.4911 996 ROC_int_01 1329.5160 Oh [okay.] 1330.7042 997 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1330.1369 [Mm-hm.] 1330.6380 998 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1331.3743 Yup because 1332.1543 999 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1332.1543 (pause 0.22) 1332.3765 1000 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1332.3765 I didn't finish all my 1334.1268 1001 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1334.1268 (pause 0.27) 1334.3963 1002 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1334.3963 necessary steps to actually teach. 1336.8743 1003 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1336.8743 (pause 0.52) 1337.3991 1004 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1337.3991 And it was nothing you can besides subs- subbing with a 1341.0153 1005 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1341.0153 (pause 0.19) 1341.2092 1006 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1341.2092 English degree, like 1342.1539 1007 ROC_int_01 1342.1586 Mm-hm. 1342.5321 1008 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1342.6775 you can sub, and it's okay, but you don't get to plant your feet. 1346.1285 1009 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1346.1285 (pause 0.53) 1346.6541 1010 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1346.6541 And then I got a county job 1348.9212 1011 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1348.9212 (pause 0.77) 1349.6891 1012 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1349.6891 as a- um, working with, um, 1351.9441 1013 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1351.9441 (pause 0.30) 1352.2459 1014 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1352.2459 kids who- 1352.8369 1015 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1352.8369 (pause 0.16) 1352.9945 1016 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1352.9945 alternative high school, 1354.1102 1017 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1354.1102 (pause 0.64) 1354.7484 1018 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1354.7484 doing that. And that was okay, 1357.1783 1019 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1357.1783 (pause 0.39) 1357.5659 1020 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1357.5659 but because I was so young, [those kids] are my age because they're getting E- um, IEPs. 1362.7322 1021 ROC_int_01 1359.2055 [Mm-hm.] 1359.6972 1022 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1363.1341 They can be what, twenty-one or twenty-two? 1364.6421 1023 ROC_int_01 1364.6997 Yeah. 1365.0117 1024 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1365.0952 And I'm 1365.4640 1025 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1365.4640 (pause 0.06) 1365.5252 1026 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1365.5252 twenty-f- three, twenty-four. I'm like, mm, 1368.4262 1027 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1368.4262 (pause 0.22) 1368.6506 1028 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1368.6506 this [ain't gonna work.] 1369.7017 1029 ROC_int_01 1368.9711 [Right.] 1369.3718 1030 ROC_int_01 1369.3718 (pause 0.11) 1369.4840 1031 ROC_int_01 1369.4840 [So that one] wasn't your favorite. 1371.2789 1032 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1369.8419 [Yeah.] 1370.1250 1033 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1371.6155 No. 1372.2886 1034 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1372.2886 (pause 0.42) 1372.7116 1035 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1372.7116 I don't think I've ever had a favorite job. 1375.0728 1036 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1375.0728 (pause 0.27) 1375.3453 1037 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1375.3453 Yeah. I like where I'm at now, 1377.3219 1038 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1377.3219 (pause 0.40) 1377.7226 1039 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1377.7226 but it's nothing that I was like, oh I'm gonna retire from here, cause I don't plan on 1381.5485 1040 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1381.5485 (pause 0.24) 1381.7836 1041 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1381.7836 doing that. 1382.3612 1042 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1382.3612 (pause 0.09) 1382.4494 1043 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1382.4494 I need to 1383.0978 1044 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1383.0978 (pause 0.66) 1383.7605 1045 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1383.7605 work for myself. I don't- I don't b- [do well working] for people, yeah. 1387.7277 1046 ROC_int_01 1385.9407 [/I understand that/.] 1386.7728 1047 ROC_int_01 1388.2493 [Yeah.] 1388.5874 1048 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1388.4952 [I] don't like it. 1389.2303 1049 ROC_int_01 1389.7661 So now you're trying to go back to school for nursing. Where [are you gonna] be going? 1394.2856 1050 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1392.8295 [Yes.] 1393.3590 1051 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1394.5094 1394.5566 1052 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1394.5566 (pause 0.10) 1394.6535 1053 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1394.6535 Now I did my research, and 1397.1465 1054 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1397.1465 (pause 0.45) 1397.5968 1055 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1397.5968 I found a program at /RD-SCHOOL-6/, and they do the classes at /RD-SCHOOL-6/ Hospital. 1403.5815 1056 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1403.5815 (pause 0.48) 1404.0589 1057 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1404.0589 Because I'm a r- 1404.6830 1058 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1404.6830 (pause 0.15) 1404.8354 1059 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1404.8354 I'm a realistic person, and I know I have to still work full-time, (laughing) 1407.9505 1060 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1407.9505 (pause 0.65) 1408.5981 1061 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1408.5981 I'll work during the day and go to class in the evening four days a week. 1411.7230 1062 ROC_int_01 1412.0161 Okay. 1412.4652 1063 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1412.5598 So- 1413.1034 1064 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1413.1034 (pause 0.14) 1413.2405 1065 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1413.2405 and it wasn't 1414.2058 1066 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1414.2058 (pause 0.78) 1414.9905 1067 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1414.9905 too pricey 1416.2291 1068 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1416.2291 (pause 1.13) 1417.3637 1069 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1417.3637 compared to some others, and it- and the thing that drew me to it is 1420.9196 1070 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1420.9196 (pause 0.21) 1421.1323 1071 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1421.1323 it's no waiting list because everywhere else had 1424.0019 1072 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1424.0019 (pause 0.15) 1424.1485 1073 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1424.1485 a waiting list, like MCC's RN program 1426.8534 1074 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1426.8534 (pause 0.50) 1427.3545 1075 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1427.3545 is- 1427.9644 1076 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1427.9644 (pause 0.24) 1428.2055 1077 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1428.2055 the waitlist is two years long. 1430.2147 1078 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1430.2147 (pause 0.61) 1430.8292 1079 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1430.8292 Like but they want you to still- so technically people are going to MCC for four years to get their RN, where 1435.6095 1080 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1435.6095 (pause 0.90) 1436.5046 1081 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1436.5046 I'm not doing that. I'm taking a- uh, 1438.1711 1082 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1438.1711 (pause 0.42) 1438.5954 1083 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1438.5954 a few shortcuts, like I'm gonna get my LPN program, 1441.4279 1084 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1441.4279 (pause 0.45) 1441.8771 1085 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1441.8771 and then next summer, I'll start the LPN to RN program. So in two years, I'll have my RN instead of four. 1447.7041 1086 ROC_int_01 1448.2553 Yeah. 1448.6240 1087 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1448.7706 [Yeah.] 1449.0873 1088 ROC_int_01 1448.8178 [That makes sense.] 1449.6735 1089 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1449.4419 [I'm cheating.] 1450.1037 1090 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1450.3637 Yeah, [I'm-] 1450.8357 1091 ROC_int_01 1450.8081 [] 1451.7245 1092 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1451.4881 [I'm] 1451.8497 1093 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1452.2338 doing- Because I feel like I'm about to be thirty-two 1455.0589 1094 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1455.0589 (pause 0.34) 1455.4000 1095 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1455.4000 and had I known all of this stuff about all these different programs and stuff, I probably woulda chose a different career path. 1461.1724 1096 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1461.1724 (pause 0.42) 1461.5959 1097 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1461.5959 But my uncle was such- he was into academics, so he wasn't like, 1465.6710 1098 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1465.6710 (pause 0.43) 1466.0965 1099 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1466.0965 nobody's being- I don't want you to go into nursing. He's like, no /you too,/ no I don't want you to do that. And my sister, she was supposed to be a lawyer. 1472.8056 1100 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1472.8056 (pause 0.28) 1473.0806 1101 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1473.0806 She's a social worker. (laughing) He's like, no, no. 1475.9029 1102 ROC_int_01 1476.1440 Yeah. 1476.5459 1103 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1476.6310 Yeah, so it's 1477.6805 1104 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1477.6805 (pause 0.12) 1477.8034 1105 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1477.8034 been- 1478.3470 1106 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1478.3470 (pause 0.15) 1478.4944 1107 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1478.4944 mm, it's just, you live and you learn, 1481.1654 1108 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1481.1654 (pause 0.69) 1481.8604 1109 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1481.8604 but I always thought like- you know, you see yourself when you grow up, I always thought I was gonna be a teacher until I experienced it. I was like, I'm not doing this 1490.0445 1110 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1490.0445 (pause 0.72) 1490.7658 1111 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1490.7658 at all. 1491.4371 1112 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1491.4371 (pause 0.17) 1491.6026 1113 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1491.6026 I don't like this. I hate these kids, like. (laughing) 1494.2592 1114 ROC_int_01 1494.2458 [Yeah.] 1494.6735 1115 ROC_int_01 1495.1226 [It's a tough] job. 1496.5578 1116 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1495.1982 [Mm-hm.] 1495.6639 1117 ROC_int_01 1496.7091 [I commend] 1497.5695 1118 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1496.8178 [Yeah.] 1497.1913 1119 ROC_int_01 1498.3023 [teachers], 1499.0250 1120 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1498.8459 [It] is. 1499.4321 1121 ROC_int_01 1499.5503 especially in the city school [district.] 1501.4374 1122 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1501.0497 [Oh.] 1501.5577 1123 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1501.9527 Yes. 1502.5956 1124 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1502.5956 (pause 1.07) 1503.6640 1125 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1503.6640 It is- 1504.3353 1126 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1504.3353 (pause 0.47) 1504.8081 1127 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1504.8081 it's the older- Well no, cause the little ones are off the hook too, 1507.7116 1128 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1507.7116 (pause 0.76) 1508.4727 1129 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1508.4727 and then some- 1509.1641 1130 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1509.1641 (pause 0.13) 1509.2941 1131 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1509.2941 I don't even know. I don't- I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't sign up for it. 1512.3312 1132 ROC_int_01 1512.4352 Mm-hm. 1512.9647 1133 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1513.1585 [Mm-hm.] 1513.6123 1134 ROC_int_01 1513.2247 [Right.] 1513.6407 1135 ROC_int_01 1513.9338 And so what made you decide on nursing 1516.5434 1136 ROC_int_01 1516.5434 (pause 0.17) 1516.7183 1137 ROC_int_01 1516.7183 after- 1517.3848 1138 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1517.9644 Well, I've been interested in it for a few years because it was just something, like I thought about- 1524.2055 1139 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1524.2055 (pause 0.40) 1524.6073 1140 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1524.6073 like I was working at the /RD-WORK-4/, and I got fired. 1527.4925 1141 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1527.4925 (pause 0.32) 1527.8120 1142 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1527.8120 So I was like, hm, I'm gonna go back to school. What do I want to go back to school for? So I was researching all these things, whether I wanted to 1534.2375 1143 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1534.2375 (pause 0.84) 1535.0770 1144 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1535.0770 pursue education again or do something completely different. 1538.5564 1145 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1538.5564 (pause 0.44) 1538.9961 1146 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1538.9961 And I have a lot of friends that are nurses because working at /RD-WORK-3/, like you work with all walks of medical field. 1544.2397 1147 ROC_int_01 1544.4046 /Right/. 1544.7119 1148 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1544.9104 And, um, 1545.7601 1149 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1545.7601 (pause 0.16) 1545.9205 1150 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1545.9205 I wanted to do nursing, 1547.2269 1151 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1547.2269 (pause 0.96) 1548.1913 1152 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1548.1913 but I had to pay my loans off before I could go back to school, and it took me, I would say, three and a half years 1554.6168 1153 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1554.6168 (pause 0.24) 1554.8579 1154 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1554.8579 to pay my loans off 1555.7655 1155 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1555.7655 (pause 1.16) 1556.9238 1156 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1556.9238 to go back to school. 1557.8181 1157 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1557.8181 (pause 0.51) 1558.3239 1158 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1558.3239 [] 1558.8203 1159 ROC_int_01 1558.5745 [That] sounds pretty good though. 1560.0757 1160 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1560.0589 Mm-hm. Yeah, [my sister] was like, ah, 1562.1816 1161 ROC_int_01 1561.0091 [/I mean-/] 1561.4393 1162 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1562.5361 good for you. I owe a hundred thousand, like /mm/. 1564.7777 1163 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1564.7777 (pause 0.48) 1565.2600 1164 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1565.2600 She has her master's. 1566.2149 1165 ROC_int_01 1566.5128 Okay. 1566.9524 1166 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1566.9619 Mm-hm. 1567.4015 1167 ROC_int_01 1567.7845 [Mkay.] 1568.1154 1168 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1568.0445 [And] she- you know, like, 1568.9861 1169 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1569.2744 they changed financial aid. You used to be able to 1571.6004 1170 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1571.6004 (pause 0.25) 1571.8509 1171 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1571.8509 borrow how much you wanted 1573.2692 1172 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1573.2692 (pause 0.11) 1573.3826 1173 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1573.3826 and she was- wasn't working that- 1575.2796 1174 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1575.2796 (pause 0.19) 1575.4683 1175 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1575.4683 all the time, so she would 1576.7069 1176 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1576.7069 (pause 0.29) 1576.9952 1177 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1576.9952 borrow enough to pay her rent up because she lived off campus and all that, but 1580.8103 1178 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1580.8103 (pause 0.37) 1581.1846 1179 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1581.1846 that comes back to haunt you, so. [] 1583.1938 1180 ROC_int_01 1582.9385 [Mm-hm.] 1583.8935 1181 ROC_int_01 1584.0589 [Yeah.] 1584.5033 1182 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1584.2197 [Yeah.] 1584.7586 1183 ROC_int_01 1585.0233 Yeah. Well that's really good, [pay it off] in three [years.] 1587.9680 1184 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1586.4179 [Mm-hm.] 1586.8103 1185 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1586.8103 (pause 1.03) 1587.8356 1186 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1587.8356 [Yeah.] 1588.4644 1187 ROC_int_01 1588.8709 [Yeah.] 1589.3011 1188 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1589.2019 [And] then too like, 1590.0906 1189 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1590.2589 I wouldn't have had to pay it all off had I known, but like 1593.4546 1190 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1593.4546 (pause 0.29) 1593.7430 1191 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1593.7430 me and my sister were our first generation to go to college. I didn't know that you had to 1597.7953 1192 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1597.7953 (pause 0.34) 1598.1310 1193 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1598.1310 communicate with them regularly, or you would go into default. 1603.1240 1194 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1603.1240 (pause 0.32) 1603.4455 1195 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1603.4455 I didn't know you could defer a loan 1605.2655 1196 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1605.2655 (pause 0.35) 1605.6107 1197 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1605.6107 because they were sending our mail to our house that burned down, but the mailbox is still intact. So they were sending all of the mail there, but 1612.6460 1198 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1612.6460 (pause 0.39) 1613.0345 1199 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1613.0345 we didn't- it was like a family 1615.0011 1200 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1615.0011 (pause 0.35) 1615.3556 1201 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1615.3556 craziness. My uncle who I was talking about, he committed suicide in the house 1619.2208 1202 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1619.2208 (pause 0.47) 1619.6935 1203 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1619.6935 and set a fire in the process. So we never went back to that house for anything. 1624.3604 1204 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1624.3604 (pause 0.95) 1625.3153 1205 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1625.3153 And they were sending all of our mail [there.] 1627.3119 1206 ROC_int_01 1627.1961 [Mm-hm.] 1627.6807 1207 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1627.4159 [None] of our mail got forwarded, like, 1629.5232 1208 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1629.7352 nothing. 1630.1725 1209 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1630.1725 (pause 0.23) 1630.4010 1210 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1630.4010 I had no idea I was 1632.0414 1211 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1632.0414 (pause 0.26) 1632.3014 1212 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1632.3014 1632.5992 1213 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1632.5992 (pause 0.37) 1632.9727 1214 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1632.9727 in /depth/ with my loans 1634.6982 1215 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1634.6982 (pause 0.37) 1635.0717 1216 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1635.0717 until like, you know, you file your taxes, waiting for your refund. They're like, oh no, it's been garnished 1639.2375 1217 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1639.2375 (pause 0.77) 1640.0088 1218 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1640.0088 by the New York State Department of Education. I was like, for what? 1642.8239 1219 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1642.8239 (pause 0.12) 1642.9444 1220 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1642.9444 Oh yeah, those loans that you signed for 1645.6190 1221 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1645.6190 (pause 0.65) 1646.2667 1222 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1646.2667 when you had no idea what you were signing, reading, the APR, none of that. 1650.3757 1223 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1650.3757 (pause 0.28) 1650.6546 1224 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1650.6546 So 1651.2266 1225 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1651.2266 (pause 0.17) 1651.3968 1226 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1651.3968 1651.8885 1227 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1651.8885 (pause 0.45) 1652.3392 1228 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1652.3392 that's how I found out. 1653.4000 1229 ROC_int_01 1653.6120 But they were flexible about- 1655.3376 1230 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1655.8746 They g- I was garnished heavily up until March, like garnishing my wages and I was making payments. 1663.3732 1231 ROC_int_01 1664.0350 [Wow.] 1664.5078 1232 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1664.4085 [Mm], because it makes you look like 1665.7992 1233 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1666.3145 a scofflaw for not paying cause it's been ten years since I've been in 1670.1910 1234 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1670.1910 (pause 0.15) 1670.3376 1235 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1670.3376 school. 1670.9947 1236 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1670.9947 (pause 0.32) 1671.3170 1237 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1671.3170 So it makes it look like you just completely ignored the debt, but I really didn't know much about it or how you go about paying it 1678.3050 1238 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1678.3050 (pause 0.43) 1678.7305 1239 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1678.7305 until like I started 1680.0778 1240 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1680.0778 (pause 0.35) 1680.4277 1241 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1680.4277 pulling up my credit report and calling these numbers that's on it, and what loan. I was like, what loan? 1686.1346 1242 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1686.1346 (pause 0.49) 1686.6262 1243 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1686.6262 I signed what? And you know, they'll send you a copy of the paper (laughing) that you signed because they have all of that stuff. 1691.8887 1244 ROC_int_01 1691.9076 [Right.] 1692.3662 1245 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1692.2149 [And it] was just 1692.9477 1246 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1693.0706 complete 1693.7088 1247 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1693.7088 (pause 0.35) 1694.0586 1248 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1694.0586 lack of 1695.1184 1249 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1695.1184 (pause 0.64) 1695.7614 1250 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1695.7614 knowing or knowledge of 1697.4349 1251 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1697.4349 (pause 0.24) 1697.6760 1252 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1697.6760 whatchu were signing when you were sevent- I was seventeen when I went to college. 1701.2358 1253 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1701.2358 (pause 0.32) 1701.5581 1254 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1701.5581 So oh yeah, you- 1702.3287 1255 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1702.3287 (pause 0.27) 1702.5981 1256 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1702.5981 so 1702.9054 1257 ROC_int_01 1702.9669 [Yeah.] 1703.2883 1258 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1703.1323 [didn't] know what I was [signing], 1704.2764 1259 ROC_int_01 1704.2008 [Mm-hm.] 1704.5033 1260 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1704.5506 and because my mother didn't go to college, my aunt didn't go to college, my uncle didn't go to college, like 1709.1276 1261 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1709.1276 (pause 0.80) 1709.9313 1262 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1709.9313 they didn't know either. 1711.0848 1263 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1711.0848 (pause 0.24) 1711.3212 1264 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1711.3212 [All I knew] is I needed my mom tax forms. 1713.4000 1265 ROC_int_01 1711.3637 [Yeah.] 1711.6379 1266 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1713.5203 That's all I- 1714.0592 1267 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1714.0592 (pause 0.32) 1714.3759 1268 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1714.3759 [that's] all I knew. 1715.3593 1269 ROC_int_01 1714.4185 [Right.] 1714.7920 1270 ROC_int_01 1715.3876 Right. 1715.7889 1271 ROC_int_01 1715.7889 (pause 0.07) 1715.8562 1272 ROC_int_01 1715.8562 No, I can 1716.5756 1273 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1716.6134 [] 1717.0484 1274 ROC_int_01 1716.9298 [completely] relate. [Well, at] least you'll know for /RD-NAME-2/. 1720.0267 1275 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1717.9986 [Mm-hm.] 1718.4241 1276 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1720.1212 Oh yeah, that's what I told her, I said- like we were looking at the rental house. She's like, oh my god. I said, don't worry. 1724.9866 1277 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1724.9866 (pause 0.23) 1725.2135 1278 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1725.2135 I'm buying a house. You won't have to (laughing) 1726.6129 1279 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1726.6129 (pause 0.35) 1726.9635 1280 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1726.9635 look for a rental property. Like, [it's a pain.] 1729.0011 1281 ROC_int_01 1728.4385 [Mm-hm.] 1728.9065 1282 ROC_int_01 1729.5967 Yeah. 1730.0128 1283 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1730.1120 Mm-hm. 1730.5990 1284 ROC_int_01 1730.8212 Yeah. So do you like the school that, uh, /RD-NAME-2/'s at right now? 1734.3251 1285 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1734.0320 1734.0923 1286 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1734.4846 I used to love it, 1735.8863 1287 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1735.8863 (pause 0.15) 1736.0376 1288 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1736.0376 but there's been so 1737.5350 1289 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1737.5350 (pause 0.11) 1737.6493 1290 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1737.6493 much change 1739.2141 1291 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1739.2141 (pause 0.16) 1739.3748 1292 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1739.3748 in the district 1740.5331 1293 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1740.5331 (pause 0.55) 1741.0815 1294 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1741.0815 and the school, and what they can and can't do. It's- 1745.1857 1295 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1745.1857 (pause 0.16) 1745.3465 1296 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1745.3465 it's different, 1746.3345 1297 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1746.3345 (pause 0.54) 1746.8782 1298 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1746.8782 and I 1748.0979 1299 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1748.0979 (pause 0.12) 1748.2208 1300 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1748.2208 want to pull her out of public school so bad. 1750.5845 1301 ROC_int_01 1750.7603 I was gonna ask, like, are you thinking of [keeping her through til-] 1753.7149 1302 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1752.5851 [Yeah, she won't be there] for long. /RD-NAME-1/ is, um, talking crap to me. She's like, you gotta let her finish with her friends because 1759.1240 1303 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1759.4596 she has two more years, this year, fifth grade, and the next year sixth grade. 1762.8926 1304 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1762.8926 (pause 0.44) 1763.3370 1305 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1763.3370 But I think after fifth grade, she might be, um, done 1766.1404 1306 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1766.1404 (pause 0.13) 1766.2680 1307 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1766.2680 at /RD-SCHOOL-3/. I w- don't wanna separate her from her friends, but 1769.4410 1308 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1769.4410 (pause 0.94) 1770.3818 1309 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1770.3818 it was just things that happened last year because /RD-NAME-2/ got one of the laziest teachers in the school, 1775.5923 1310 ROC_int_01 1775.6853 Mm. 1775.9189 1311 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1776.1501 and I was just like- 1777.2847 1312 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1777.2847 (pause 0.50) 1777.7858 1313 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1777.7858 like I would have questions about the report card, 1780.2205 1314 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1780.2205 (pause 0.30) 1780.5239 1315 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1780.5239 and she's telling me like, 1781.2141 1316 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1781.2141 (pause 0.16) 1781.3701 1317 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1781.3701 oh maybe you misunderstood. 1782.8214 1318 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1782.8214 (pause 1.20) 1784.0222 1319 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1784.0222 Who? 1784.4855 1320 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1784.4855 (pause 0.17) 1784.6597 1321 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1784.6597 I said, oh. 1785.5177 1322 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1785.5177 (pause 0.35) 1785.8687 1323 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1785.8687 I said, I don't misunderstand anything. 1788.0906 1324 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1788.0906 (pause 0.77) 1788.8612 1325 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1788.8612 I went to school to be a teacher. W- I can understand that if she has- 1792.3036 1326 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1792.3036 (pause 0.36) 1792.6629 1327 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1792.6629 you're giving her outstanding effort- 1794.7194 1328 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1794.7194 (pause 0.36) 1795.0787 1329 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1795.0787 or outstanding grade, but she has a low number score or something because it's no A's and B's for the littles. 1800.4074 1330 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1800.4074 (pause 0.42) 1800.8281 1331 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1800.8281 They do one through nine, outstanding, satisfactory, needs improvement. It's weird how they do the report card. 1806.7289 1332 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1806.7289 (pause 0.43) 1807.1591 1333 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1807.1591 But it wasn't- it wasn't adding up, cause you're saying she's doing 1810.5306 1334 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1810.5306 (pause 0.35) 1810.8852 1335 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1810.8852 not so well 1812.1852 1336 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1812.1852 (pause 0.76) 1812.9416 1337 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1812.9416 in social studies, 1813.9486 1338 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1813.9486 (pause 0.23) 1814.1755 1339 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1814.1755 but you gave her a outstanding. 1815.7154 1340 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1815.7154 (pause 0.62) 1816.3320 1341 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1816.3320 But 1816.7918 1342 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1816.7918 (pause 0.10) 1816.8911 1343 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1816.8911 you also didn't- don't send home any social studies homework or work, and you don't do it in class, because I'm the parent who, 1823.9130 1344 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1823.9130 (pause 0.26) 1824.1730 1345 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1824.1730 how was your day? What'd you do in class? Who'd you eat with? What was this? What was that? Like, I'm asking questions, 1828.8115 1346 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1828.8115 (pause 0.34) 1829.1471 1347 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1829.1471 and I'm 1829.5159 1348 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1829.5159 (pause 0.24) 1829.7522 1349 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1829.7522 sh- they never do social studies, so how did you grade her on some work that was never done? 1834.7642 1350 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1834.7642 (pause 1.32) 1836.0831 1351 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1836.0831 And then at the end of the year, 1837.3888 1352 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1837.3888 (pause 0.44) 1837.8284 1353 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1837.8284 her math teacher- 1838.9347 1354 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1838.9347 (pause 0.27) 1839.2088 1355 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1839.2088 math and science teacher never submitted his grades, 1841.8420 1356 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1841.8420 (pause 0.26) 1842.1068 1357 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1842.1068 so she gave all the kids down the line the average grade. 1845.2183 1358 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1845.2183 (pause 0.35) 1845.5681 1359 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1845.5681 So it looks like /RD-NAME-2/ went from a nine 1847.3977 1360 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1847.3977 (pause 0.14) 1847.5395 1361 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1847.5395 to a six in math. 1849.0909 1362 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1849.0909 (pause 0.36) 1849.4550 1363 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1849.4550 That's unacceptable because if I pull her to another school, 1851.9936 1364 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1851.9936 (pause 0.28) 1852.2773 1365 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1852.2773 they look at 1852.9060 1366 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1852.9060 (pause 0.11) 1853.0113 1367 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1853.0113 fourth 1853.5679 1368 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1853.5679 (pause 0.12) 1853.6908 1369 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1853.6908 and fifth grade the most. 1855.0078 1370 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1855.0078 (pause 0.57) 1855.5751 1371 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1855.5751 [So, what-] 1856.3431 1372 ROC_int_01 1855.6429 [Mm-hm.] 1856.2362 1373 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1856.4118 what are you doing? 1856.9413 1374 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1856.9413 (pause 0.73) 1857.6721 1375 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1857.6721 Yeah. 1858.0929 1376 ROC_int_01 1858.5278 Yeah. 1858.9296 1377 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1858.9986 So that turned me off from the school completely, and I even told the principal because I have a rapport with her cause /RD-NAME-2/'s been there since kindergarten. 1866.1332 1378 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1866.1332 (pause 0.65) 1866.7868 1379 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1866.7868 And I told her, I said, these teachers lazy. 1868.7487 1380 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1868.7487 (pause 0.64) 1869.3917 1381 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1869.3917 Said she's not doing- 1870.2710 1382 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1870.2710 (pause 0.50) 1870.7721 1383 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1870.7721 You sent the same homework, and they don't even get 1873.5149 1384 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1873.5149 (pause 0.37) 1873.8883 1385 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1873.8883 a packet of homework. They don't have their own books. 1876.7201 1386 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1876.7201 (pause 0.62) 1877.3449 1387 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1877.3449 This is homework, like two pages front and back. 1880.7440 1388 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1880.7440 (pause 0.33) 1881.0702 1389 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1881.0702 You sent the same packet home three weeks, 1883.3550 1390 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1883.3550 (pause 0.15) 1883.5051 1391 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1883.5051 son. 1883.9461 1392 ROC_int_01 1884.3472 [Mm.] 1884.6923 1393 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1884.4748 [Like] three 1885.4097 1394 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1885.5255 weeks, the same thing, no changes. 1888.4459 1395 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1888.4459 (pause 0.67) 1889.1125 1396 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1889.1125 Oh, I said, why does she keep giving you this? 1891.0063 1397 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1891.0063 (pause 0.29) 1891.2994 1398 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1891.2994 Because some kids didn't do it. 1892.5994 1399 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1892.5994 (pause 0.37) 1892.9690 1400 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1892.9690 So you gonna keep giving it to the entire [class?] 1896.0135 1401 ROC_int_01 1895.8433 [Right.] 1896.3113 1402 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1897.0488 It's been 1897.6776 1403 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1897.6776 (pause 0.25) 1897.9234 1404 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1897.9234 just slack, 1898.5055 1405 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1898.5055 (pause 0.59) 1899.0919 1406 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1899.0919 [just slack.] 1900.3116 1407 ROC_int_01 1899.2479 [Yeah.] 1899.6450 1408 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1900.6472 And I understand it might be hard. I guess her father was sick, but 1903.9801 1409 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1903.9801 (pause 0.51) 1904.4907 1410 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1904.4907 bruh, 1905.0210 1411 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1905.0210 (pause 0.16) 1905.1770 1412 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1905.1770 take a sabbatical. Like, take a leave if you need to because these kids are suffering, like /RD-NAME-4/ 1910.9965 1413 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1910.9965 (pause 0.31) 1911.3046 1414 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1911.3046 a smart kid, so she was able to do really well in all the state tests and everything, but 1915.9990 1415 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1915.9990 (pause 0.78) 1916.7791 1416 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1916.7791 I just see the laziness of the teacher, like 1919.2571 1417 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1919.2571 (pause 0.42) 1919.6731 1418 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1919.6731 you got kids taking pictures of you so you can post 'em on Facebook? 1922.7602 1419 ROC_int_01 1923.3708 No. 1923.8483 1420 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1924.2560 When /RD-NAME-4/ told me that, I was like, she did what? 1926.5938 1421 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1926.5938 (pause 1.04) 1927.6350 1422 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1927.6350 Excuse me? 1928.3859 1423 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1928.3859 (pause 1.46) 1929.8436 1424 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1929.8436 Yeah. 1930.1840 1425 ROC_int_01 1931.0680 I can't. 1931.6684 1426 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1931.6956 Mm-hm. 1932.2274 1427 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1932.2274 (pause 0.21) 1932.4401 1428 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1932.4401 1932.4851 1429 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1932.4851 (pause 0.08) 1932.5628 1430 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1932.5628 So I don't think she will be th- Because I've gone to 1935.2688 1431 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1935.2688 (pause 0.36) 1935.6328 1432 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1935.6328 city schools, 1936.3845 1433 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1936.3845 (pause 0.18) 1936.5688 1434 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1936.5688 private schools, and suburban schools, 1938.3404 1435 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1938.3404 (pause 0.47) 1938.8152 1436 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1938.8152 so I know the difference. I know the shift. And even when I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/, like there were some great teachers. I remember all of my teachers 1946.1720 1437 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1946.1720 (pause 0.69) 1946.8575 1438 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1946.8575 in elementary school 1948.1386 1439 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1948.1386 (pause 0.29) 1948.4317 1440 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1948.4317 because they had that much of an impact. But to get 1951.6945 1441 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1951.6945 (pause 0.39) 1952.0822 1442 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1952.0822 to see- I don't want my child to fall in the wastelands 1955.3820 1443 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1955.3820 (pause 0.49) 1955.8736 1444 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1955.8736 learning because of a lazy teacher, [or to get] turned off from education from a lazy teacher. 1960.8383 1445 ROC_int_01 1957.9498 [Mm-hm.] 1958.4178 1446 ROC_int_01 1961.1361 Right. 1961.5569 1447 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1961.7090 [Yeah, mm-hm.] 1962.6128 1448 ROC_int_01 1962.1770 [Right. So] 1962.9334 1449 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1963.0185 [] 1963.5669 1450 ROC_int_01 1963.2501 [do you think] you'll 1964.1448 1451 ROC_int_01 1964.2346 move her then to- 1965.2889 1452 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1965.7604 Now, I've been doing my research. For middle school, Aquinas is fairly cheap. 1970.3611 1453 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1970.3611 (pause 0.42) 1970.7818 1454 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1970.7818 Bishop Kearney I can afford. And they're both really good schools. 1974.0674 1455 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1974.0674 (pause 0.46) 1974.5268 1456 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1974.5268 Or I'm tryna be in the suburbs somewhere because I don't do urban suburban. 1979.0038 1457 ROC_int_01 1979.5190 [Yeah.] 1979.7602 1458 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1979.6609 [I] don't like it. 1980.3404 1459 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1981.2738 I don't like it at all. 1982.1815 1460 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1982.1815 (pause 0.19) 1982.3753 1461 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1982.3753 So I wouldn't- 1983.2499 1462 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1983.2499 (pause 0.41) 1983.6612 1463 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1983.6612 I would never do that 1984.8288 1464 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1984.8288 (pause 0.30) 1985.1314 1465 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1985.1314 1985.5711 1466 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1985.5711 (pause 0.32) 1985.8886 1467 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1985.8886 to her 1986.5647 1468 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1986.5647 (pause 0.91) 1987.4771 1469 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1987.4771 because I know how people act with it from when I was teaching and in the schools, how they treat- I- 1992.7774 1470 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1992.7774 (pause 0.17) 1992.9476 1471 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1992.9476 I know they treat the kids differently. 1994.5502 1472 ROC_int_01 1994.7109 [Yeah.] 1995.1175 1473 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1994.9757 [And my] nephew was in urban suburban, and they assume that 1997.9256 1474 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1998.4559 he has some 1999.4392 1475 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1999.4392 (pause 0.16) 1999.5952 1476 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 1999.5952 broke ass parent who just got lucky, and my sister, like I said, she has a master's in social work. 2004.8247 1477 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2004.8247 (pause 0.85) 2005.6756 1478 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2005.6756 She's a professional. She works for the government, like 2007.9023 1479 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2007.9023 (pause 0.27) 2008.1764 1480 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2008.1764 she 2009.0080 1481 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2009.0080 (pause 0.53) 2009.5427 1482 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2009.5427 went to the school a few times, and they're like, who are- hi, how can we help? She's like, I'm /RD-NAME-2/'s mom. 2014.4175 1483 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2014.4175 (pause 0.69) 2015.1030 1484 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2015.1030 Oh. 2015.7838 1485 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2015.7838 (pause 0.69) 2016.4748 1486 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2016.4748 Cause he's in urban suburban. Like, oh. 2017.9593 1487 ROC_int_01 2018.6967 Mm. 2018.9520 1488 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2018.9993 Yeah. 2019.5477 1489 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2019.5477 (pause 0.40) 2019.9495 1490 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2019.9495 So [it's- yeah I don't] like it. 2021.6044 1491 ROC_int_01 2020.2476 [Yeah.] 2021.0016 1492 ROC_int_01 2022.0858 Yeah. So it's kind of- yeah. I don't like that either [/by the sounds of it/.] 2025.5644 1493 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2024.8514 [Yeah, I tell] 2025.4557 1494 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2025.5857 everybody, like 2027.4164 1495 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2027.4164 (pause 0.26) 2027.6717 1496 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2027.6717 told your sister like, no. I don't want her to do urban suburban. 2030.3030 1497 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2030.3030 (pause 0.30) 2030.6055 1498 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2030.6055 She's like, well West Irondequoit. I said, no. 2032.4445 1499 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2032.4445 (pause 0.56) 2033.0032 1500 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2033.0032 Mm-mm. 2033.4712 1501 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2033.4712 (pause 0.87) 2034.3411 1502 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2034.3411 Move out there then. 2035.2866 1503 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2035.2866 (pause 0.51) 2035.7971 1504 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2035.7971 That's how I really feel, like 2036.8230 1505 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2036.8230 (pause 0.34) 2037.1586 1506 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2037.1586 if you want your kid to get the 2039.1868 1507 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2039.1868 (pause 0.08) 2039.2671 1508 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2039.2671 best experience, you don't want them looked at differently, like 2042.0808 1509 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2042.0808 (pause 0.37) 2042.4529 1510 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2042.4529 you live in the inner city, but your kid in Pittsford. 2044.9262 1511 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2044.9262 (pause 0.61) 2045.5407 1512 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2045.5407 Your kid is on- you know what I'm saying, like 2047.3041 1513 ROC_int_01 2047.4790 No, I agree. I [told her I didn't want her at] any of those schools [because] it's [like, they're gonna know] she's different and [she's not] coming from the same 2054.9162 1514 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2048.4954 I don't like it. 2049.3404 1515 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2049.3404 (pause 1.32) 2050.6634 1516 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2050.6634 [Mm-hm.] 2051.2118 1517 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2051.2118 (pause 0.23) 2051.4415 1518 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2051.4415 [] 2052.3539 1519 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2052.3539 (pause 0.90) 2053.2521 1520 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2053.2521 [Mm-hm] 2053.7910 1521 ROC_int_01 2055.6403 econom- socioeconomic [class.] 2057.7015 1522 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2057.4226 [Mm-hm.] 2057.9048 1523 ROC_int_01 2058.1128 You know and 2058.8564 1524 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2058.8550 Yeah. 2059.2663 1525 ROC_int_01 2059.5925 I'm afraid of what that will 2061.3404 1526 ROC_int_01 2061.3404 (pause 0.55) 2061.8909 1527 ROC_int_01 2061.8909 do to /RD-NAME-2/ cause [she's so sensitive.] 2063.8149 1528 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2062.9214 [Mm.] 2063.4036 1529 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2063.4036 (pause 0.37) 2063.7724 1530 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2063.7724 Yeah, she definitely is and that's something that I- I've known /RD-NAME-4/ since she was four 2068.1461 1531 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2068.6567 I wanna say. 2069.5266 1532 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2069.5266 (pause 0.11) 2069.6359 1533 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2069.6359 Oh, I'm getting old. 2070.7179 1534 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2070.7179 (pause 0.51) 2071.2237 1535 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2071.2237 2071.6586 1536 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2071.6586 (pause 0.49) 2072.1456 1537 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2072.1456 And, um, 2072.8027 1538 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2072.8027 (pause 0.31) 2073.1108 1539 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2073.1108 she's a bright girl, 2074.3920 1540 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2074.3920 (pause 0.29) 2074.6851 1541 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2074.6851 and that's why I was so glad that she got into /RD-SCHOOL-4/ because I honestly- 2078.6041 1542 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2078.6041 (pause 0.32) 2078.9209 1543 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2078.9209 You can't tell somebody to- what to do with their kids, but I was telling /RD-NAME-1/ like, 2082.5004 1544 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2082.5004 (pause 0.47) 2082.9684 1545 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2082.9684 don't 2083.2750 1546 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2083.2750 (pause 0.09) 2083.3648 1547 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2083.3648 do urban suburban for her. 2084.9278 1548 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2084.9278 (pause 0.10) 2085.0294 1549 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2085.0294 Don't. 2085.3404 1550 ROC_int_01 2085.3836 [Mm-hm.] 2085.8706 1551 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2085.6389 [] 2086.2487 1552 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2086.3386 Please don't. 2086.9862 1553 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2086.9862 (pause 0.63) 2087.6150 1554 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2087.6150 [And, um], 2088.3241 1555 ROC_int_01 2087.6388 [Mm-hm.] 2088.1376 1556 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2088.9381 it worked out. 2089.4723 1557 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2089.4723 (pause 0.15) 2089.6236 1558 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2089.6236 [] 2090.5266 1559 ROC_int_01 2089.9214 [Yeah, I know.] I'm so happy it worked out [the way] it did. (laughing) 2093.5285 1560 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2092.2048 [Mm-hm.] 2092.7674 1561 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2093.6136 Like my friend, she's a nurse. 2095.1225 1562 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2095.1225 (pause 0.47) 2095.5952 1563 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2095.5952 She owns her house in the nineteenth ward, beautiful house. Her son went to private school for years. 2099.7318 1564 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2099.7318 (pause 0.36) 2100.0872 1565 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2100.0872 His private school closed, 2101.8174 1566 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2101.8174 (pause 0.33) 2102.1484 1567 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2102.1484 so she sent him to urban suburban, and he got put 2104.6461 1568 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2104.6461 (pause 0.13) 2104.7737 1569 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2104.7737 at Pittsford. 2105.5096 1570 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2105.5096 (pause 1.52) 2107.0252 1571 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2107.0252 Nasty. 2107.7296 1572 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2107.7296 (pause 0.19) 2107.9187 1573 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2107.9187 The kids are 2108.5521 1574 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2108.5521 (pause 0.29) 2108.8414 1575 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2108.8414 nasty as hell. 2110.1792 1576 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2110.1792 (pause 0.95) 2111.1342 1577 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2111.1342 Nasty. 2112.1600 1578 ROC_int_01 2112.3350 Mm-hm. 2112.9826 1579 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2113.4034 And I told her, I was like, 2114.8344 1580 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2114.8344 (pause 0.12) 2114.9573 1581 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2114.9573 you need to look into something else. I said, why didn't you just keep him in a private school. She was like, oh I was thinking maybe I could get a break from tuition 2121.7429 1582 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2121.7429 (pause 0.35) 2122.0972 1583 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2122.0972 because I've been paying tuition since he was in kindergarten. 2124.6595 1584 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2124.6595 (pause 0.53) 2125.1937 1585 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2125.1937 And I was like, mm you don't get a break, I guess because 2128.0904 1586 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2128.0904 (pause 0.39) 2128.4754 1587 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2128.4754 he is getting eaten alive by these white kids. 2131.0802 1588 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2131.0802 (pause 0.61) 2131.6853 1589 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2131.6853 And 2132.1108 1590 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2132.1108 (pause 0.24) 2132.3519 1591 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2132.3519 men, like he's a young man, like nobody deserves the ridicule. 2136.1158 1592 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2136.1158 (pause 0.30) 2136.4137 1593 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2136.4137 And then not only were the white kids being jerks, 2138.5647 1594 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2138.5647 (pause 0.37) 2138.9381 1595 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2138.9381 the black kids on the bus is being nasty. 2141.0474 1596 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2141.0474 (pause 0.50) 2141.5485 1597 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2141.5485 So I'm like, huh, 2142.3806 1598 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2142.3806 (pause 0.54) 2142.9242 1599 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2142.9242 what? 2143.2457 1600 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2143.2457 (pause 0.72) 2143.9690 1601 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2143.9690 What is going on? 2144.9941 1602 ROC_int_01 2145.0130 [Mm-hm.] 2145.4290 1603 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2145.3368 [Because] on the urban suburban 2146.9631 1604 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2147.0683 buses 2147.6450 1605 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2147.6450 (pause 0.35) 2147.9929 1606 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2147.9929 if you're 2148.7304 1607 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2148.7304 (pause 0.21) 2148.9384 1608 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2148.9384 like say 2149.7988 1609 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2149.7988 (pause 0.32) 2150.1155 1610 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2150.1155 Pittsford district, they pick up the kindergarteners, 2152.8300 1611 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2152.8300 (pause 0.31) 2153.1372 1612 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2153.1372 the middle schoolers, and the high schoolers on the same bus. 2155.7468 1613 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2155.7468 (pause 0.95) 2156.7018 1614 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2156.7018 So 2157.2549 1615 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2157.2549 (pause 0.34) 2157.5914 1616 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2157.5914 you got this boy getting picked on by 2159.7849 1617 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2159.7849 (pause 0.32) 2160.1064 1618 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2160.1064 high school [kids.] 2161.0944 1619 ROC_int_01 2160.9431 [Mm.] 2161.3261 1620 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2161.3686 No. It's- no. 2162.4512 1621 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2162.4512 (pause 0.92) 2163.3731 1622 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2163.3731 I ain't with it. 2163.8742 1623 ROC_int_01 2164.3147 Yeah. 2164.7259 1624 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2165.1278 I am not. 2165.8322 1625 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2165.8322 (pause 0.27) 2166.1064 1626 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2166.1064 And I feel like 2166.8722 1627 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2166.8722 (pause 1.01) 2167.8792 1628 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2167.8792 if you are an involved parent 2170.0546 1629 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2170.0546 (pause 0.19) 2170.2437 1630 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2170.2437 with your kid's education, they're gonna be successful 2172.6548 1631 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2172.6548 (pause 0.11) 2172.7647 1632 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2172.7647 wherever they are. It's just the element and the environment that I want changed. Like, in /RD-SCHOOL-3/ they're getting kicked out of their building for her sixth grade year. 2181.6283 1633 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2181.6283 (pause 0.45) 2182.0788 1634 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2182.0788 Who knows, like 2182.9156 1635 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2182.9156 (pause 0.25) 2183.1670 1636 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2183.1670 if they're at Franklin, she ain't going there. 2184.9162 1637 ROC_int_01 2185.3085 [Mm-hm.] 2185.8286 1638 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2185.6347 [If they're] at 2186.2605 1639 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2186.3397 a high school, she's not going there 2187.9465 1640 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2187.9465 (pause 0.33) 2188.2774 1641 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2188.2774 because she's in sixth grade. Like, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/, 2191.1620 1642 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2191.1620 (pause 0.47) 2191.6350 1643 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2191.6350 and we rode the bus sixth grade with the high schoolers. The high schoolers like, hey what's up. 2196.1219 1644 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2196.1219 (pause 0.61) 2196.7271 1645 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2196.7271 Like grown men trying to talk to kids. So, I ain't with that. 2199.6392 1646 ROC_int_01 2199.6912 Yeah, 2200.4429 1647 ROC_int_01 2200.4429 (pause 0.09) 2200.5279 1648 ROC_int_01 2200.5279 I've never [heard about] that. (laughing) 2202.3697 1649 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2200.9846 [] 2201.4715 1650 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2202.5210 Yeah. 2202.8897 1651 ROC_int_01 2203.2065 [Yeah.] 2203.9109 1652 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2203.6981 [It was a] trip, like m- 2204.8005 1653 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2205.2638 grown- 2205.8252 1654 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2205.8252 (pause 0.10) 2205.9244 1655 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2205.9244 grown boys used to be buying lunch all the time. I ain't never have to spend no money, 2209.4949 1656 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2209.4949 (pause 0.36) 2209.8589 1657 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2209.8589 but I was young so I ain't think nothing of it, like, oh let me walk you to class. Oh 2212.9940 1658 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2212.9940 (pause 0.80) 2213.7930 1659 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2213.7930 oh let me /?/ 2214.3083 1660 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2214.3083 (pause 0.41) 2214.7148 1661 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2214.7148 Okay, whatever. 2215.5941 1662 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2215.5941 (pause 0.43) 2216.0243 1663 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2216.0243 Then one of 'em was like, yeah she's so pretty, da da da. But you're- you have a full beard and mustache, [son.] (laughing) 2220.8803 1664 ROC_int_01 2220.5352 [] 2221.0883 1665 ROC_int_01 2221.2821 [] 2221.8049 1666 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2221.6678 [I] was what, like eleven in six grade? Twelve? Eleven. Yeah, I'm like, 2226.2078 1667 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2227.2112 what? 2227.7966 1668 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2227.7966 (pause 0.08) 2227.8807 1669 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2227.8807 So yeah I don't want her in that element, that environment. Like I li- I didn't like when the city school district- they got rid of 2233.8872 1670 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2233.8872 (pause 0.12) 2234.0110 1671 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2234.0110 most of the middle schools, if not all of them. 2236.1478 1672 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2236.1478 (pause 0.78) 2236.9278 1673 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2236.9278 Think that that was the biggest mistake they made. Like, let these kids be kids for a little while longer. 2241.9039 1674 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2241.9039 (pause 0.83) 2242.7312 1675 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2242.7312 Yeah. 2243.1898 1676 ROC_int_01 2243.2474 Yeah. 2243.7012 1677 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2244.0132 [Mm-hm.] 2244.5427 1678 ROC_int_01 2244.1361 [Yeah, no], I- 2245.2660 1679 ROC_int_01 2246.2209 I'm not a big fan of combining, 2248.3152 1680 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2248.5374 [Yeah.] 2249.0680 1681 ROC_int_01 2248.9326 [um], for those reasons. [Yeah that makes] sense. 2251.4712 1682 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2250.4643 [Mm-hm.] 2251.0032 1683 ROC_int_01 2251.8211 Yeah. 2252.1670 1684 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2252.2048 It's too much. 2253.2401 1685 ROC_int_01 2253.5711 It- it really is, 2254.7955 1686 ROC_int_01 2254.7955 (pause 0.24) 2255.0366 1687 ROC_int_01 2255.0366 and [it's] gotta be overwhelming 2256.7905 1688 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2255.3628 [Mm.] 2255.6464 1689 ROC_int_01 2257.4570 for the [kids to like] try to navigate. 2259.5427 1690 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2257.9392 [Mm-hm.] 2258.4687 1691 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2260.1383 Yeah. 2260.5842 1692 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2260.5842 (pause 0.08) 2260.6631 1693 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2260.6631 I remember my first day in /RD-SCHOOL-4/, like after orientation, (laughing) 2265.0510 1694 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2265.0510 (pause 0.82) 2265.8689 1695 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2265.8689 then they're like 2266.6584 1696 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2266.6584 (pause 0.19) 2266.8522 1697 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2266.8522 boop, okay. Orientation was BS. They didn't even really show you anything. They showed you the cafeteria, the theater, something. 2273.6511 1698 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2273.6511 (pause 0.45) 2274.1050 1699 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2274.1050 I felt like they showed us all the new parts of the school. 2276.6445 1700 ROC_int_01 2276.6248 Mm. 2276.8998 1701 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2277.3205 And then you get there the first day, 2279.1689 1702 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2279.1689 (pause 0.44) 2279.6133 1703 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2279.6133 you're like, where am I supposed to go? Oh my god. Like you wa- (laughing) walk into that big- 2283.6467 1704 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2283.6467 (pause 0.07) 2283.7129 1705 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2283.7129 First of all, 2284.3653 1706 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2284.3653 (pause 0.26) 2284.6206 1707 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2284.6206 we rode RTS buses. 2286.0530 1708 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2286.0530 (pause 0.28) 2286.3366 1709 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2286.3366 [] 2286.7479 1710 ROC_int_01 2286.3603 [Right.] 2286.6770 1711 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2287.1639 Shock. 2287.8920 1712 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2287.8920 (pause 0.54) 2288.4317 1713 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2288.4317 Second, like you get there, 2290.2045 1714 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2290.2045 (pause 0.20) 2290.4078 1715 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2290.4078 well, on said bus, it's grown ass kids getting on was like, where is she going? 2295.3224 1716 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2295.3224 (pause 0.40) 2295.7243 1717 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2295.7243 /RD-SCHOOL-4/. They just grown, like 2297.7620 1718 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2297.7620 (pause 0.49) 2298.2496 1719 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2298.2496 they're in high school. 2299.6395 1720 ROC_int_01 2299.6305 Right. 2299.9562 1721 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2300.4112 And then you get to the actual building. You're like, where in the holy hell 2304.0873 1722 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2304.0873 (pause 0.09) 2304.1724 1723 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2304.1724 am I suppo- what's- 2305.1984 1724 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2305.1984 (pause 0.13) 2305.3261 1725 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2305.3261 what? 2305.8130 1726 ROC_int_01 2306.0588 Right. 2306.4937 1727 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2306.7660 So it was a little bit of a shock, but my mom- 2309.1581 1728 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2309.1581 (pause 0.20) 2309.3594 1729 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2309.3594 Again, like by that point, 2310.8911 1730 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2310.8911 (pause 0.60) 2311.4868 1731 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2311.4868 when I was at /RD-SCHOOL-4/, my sister had already moved out with my aunt and uncle cause she was being bad in school. 2316.4184 1732 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2316.4184 (pause 0.58) 2316.9999 1733 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2316.9999 So she was going to the private school already. 2319.1698 1734 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2319.1698 (pause 0.58) 2319.7474 1735 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2319.7474 So then, once I started acting up, cause I was being off the hook too, 2323.7846 1736 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2323.7846 (pause 0.41) 2324.1912 1737 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2324.1912 we all just- my mom was like, alright. 2326.1275 1738 ROC_int_01 2326.9170 I'm done. 2327.3614 1739 ROC_int_01 2327.3614 (pause 0.24) 2327.6005 1740 ROC_int_01 2327.6005 2327.7187 1741 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2327.8653 I ain't playing 2329.0188 1742 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2329.0188 (pause 0.09) 2329.1086 1743 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2329.1086 with y'all [today.] 2330.0588 1744 ROC_int_01 2329.6003 [Yeah.] 2329.9926 1745 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2330.2850 And we all went to 2331.4326 1746 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2331.4326 (pause 0.14) 2331.5744 1747 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2331.5744 the private school. 2332.4442 1748 ROC_int_01 2332.6712 Yeah. 2333.0777 1749 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2333.4370 Mm-hm. 2333.9949 1750 ROC_int_01 2334.3211 Well, I guess that's the way to go 2336.0380 1751 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2336.0805 [Yeah, if you can afford it, yeah.] 2338.3166 1752 ROC_int_01 2336.3831 [now- and here, /cause it looks like/ people] are going 2339.0966 1753 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2339.3992 [Yeah it's-] 2340.1509 1754 ROC_int_01 2339.5079 [or people are out] there for it, I [feel like] 2341.4328 1755 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2340.9270 [Mm-hm.] 2341.4076 1756 ROC_int_01 2341.7531 at, you [know,] 2342.3559 1757 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2342.1550 [Yeah.] 2342.6348 1758 ROC_int_01 2343.1631 the city school. 2344.0046 1759 ROC_int_01 2344.0046 (pause 0.16) 2344.1653 1760 ROC_int_01 2344.1653 But, um, 2344.7704 1761 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2345.3027 Mm. 2345.5722 1762 ROC_int_01 2345.6781 I wanted to ask you a few questions [about] Rochester more [generally], 2349.3522 1763 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2347.2977 [Mm-hm.] 2347.6948 1764 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2347.6948 (pause 1.46) 2349.1509 1765 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2349.1509 [Okay.] 2349.5565 1766 ROC_int_01 2349.5744 get your opinions. 2350.7232 1767 ROC_int_01 2350.7232 (pause 0.31) 2351.0305 1768 ROC_int_01 2351.0305 Um, 2351.4796 1769 ROC_int_01 2351.4796 (pause 1.31) 2352.7871 1770 ROC_int_01 2352.7871 what are your, I guess, favorite aspects about Rochester as a city? 2357.0663 1771 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2357.9752 Oh my god. I'm'a have to call him back. Sorry, that's my uncle. I hope he bought the house. 2361.5243 1772 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2361.5243 (pause 0.61) 2362.1350 1773 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2362.1350 Um, 2362.6645 1774 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2362.6645 (pause 0.68) 2363.3452 1775 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2363.3452 my favorite thing about Rochester is 2366.0352 1776 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2366.0352 (pause 0.60) 2366.6356 1777 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2366.6356 it 2366.8814 1778 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2366.8814 (pause 0.39) 2367.2690 1779 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2367.2690 can have the metropolitan feel and the small town feel 2370.7670 1780 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2370.7670 (pause 0.11) 2370.8734 1781 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2370.8734 at the same time. 2371.8839 1782 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2371.8839 (pause 0.63) 2372.5174 1783 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2372.5174 And I like it, like 2373.6197 1784 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2373.6197 (pause 0.62) 2374.2390 1785 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2374.2390 it's part- Like I went to a park the other day, 2377.4773 1786 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2377.4773 (pause 0.56) 2378.0352 1787 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2378.0352 Turning Point Park right off Lake Avenue. 2379.8127 1788 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2379.8127 (pause 0.26) 2380.0688 1789 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2380.0688 I was born and raised here. I didn't know that park existed. 2382.9100 1790 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2382.9100 (pause 0.26) 2383.1748 1791 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2383.1748 Like, the whole park is a pier. 2384.4181 1792 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2384.4181 (pause 0.92) 2385.3400 1793 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2385.3400 The whole thing. 2385.7607 1794 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2385.7607 (pause 0.18) 2385.9365 1795 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2385.9365 A pier. 2386.3336 1796 ROC_int_01 2386.3856 I probably don't know [about that.] 2387.5318 1797 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2387.2932 [Beautiful.] 2387.8322 1798 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2388.2860 See. 2388.6028 1799 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2388.6028 (pause 0.35) 2388.9573 1800 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2388.9573 There you go. 2389.3733 1801 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2389.3733 (pause 0.47) 2389.8414 1802 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2389.8414 You're welcome. 2390.3708 1803 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2390.3708 (pause 0.11) 2390.4843 1804 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2390.4843 No. [] 2391.0071 1805 ROC_int_01 2390.6573 [] 2391.6028 1806 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2392.2788 Yeah, it was- 2392.9784 1807 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2392.9784 (pause 0.18) 2393.1628 1808 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2393.1628 it's like y- I- it's so many things to do here. 2395.9481 1809 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2395.9481 (pause 0.35) 2396.2980 1810 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2396.2980 That's why when people be like, oh it's boring, it ain't nothing to do in Rochester, 2400.2312 1811 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2400.2312 (pause 0.42) 2400.6528 1812 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2400.6528 there is a lot to do in Rochester. And with my job, I do structured day program, we go out 2405.2574 1813 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2405.2574 (pause 0.12) 2405.3756 1814 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2405.3756 to 2405.6923 1815 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2405.6923 (pause 0.39) 2406.0790 1816 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2406.0790 places that half the time I've never even heard of. 2408.7424 1817 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2408.7424 (pause 0.81) 2409.5527 1818 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2409.5527 But, 2409.8742 1819 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2409.8742 (pause 0.22) 2410.0925 1820 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2410.0925 I like Rochester. 2411.2460 1821 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2411.2460 (pause 0.12) 2411.3689 1822 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2411.3689 If I- I don't see myself relocating 2414.3472 1823 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2414.3472 (pause 0.39) 2414.7390 1824 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2414.7390 until 2415.6231 1825 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2415.6231 (pause 0.15) 2415.7696 1826 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2415.7696 she's going to college, like I'll follow her where she go 2418.1003 1827 ROC_int_01 2418.6155 Yeah. 2418.8842 1828 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2418.8963 cause I'm that type of person, [parent] rather. (laughing) 2421.2451 1829 ROC_int_01 2420.3044 [Yeah.] 2420.5389 1830 ROC_int_01 2421.9968 /What's-/ yeah well /RD-NAME-1/ is too. [I think] would do the same thing. 2425.6397 1831 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2423.8386 [Yeah.] 2424.2877 1832 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2425.7248 Mm-hm. 2426.2163 1833 ROC_int_01 2426.2364 Um, 2426.6205 1834 ROC_int_01 2426.6205 (pause 0.47) 2427.0903 1835 ROC_int_01 2427.0903 but, 2427.4425 1836 ROC_int_01 2427.4425 (pause 0.28) 2427.7207 1837 ROC_int_01 2427.7207 okay, so when you say metropolitan, what pieces do you feel like, I guess are more metropolitan, and what's like that homey- 2433.8535 1838 ROC_int_01 2433.8535 (pause 0.27) 2434.1225 1839 ROC_int_01 2434.1225 what gives you that sense of like a small town 2436.3160 1840 ROC_int_01 2436.3160 (pause 0.43) 2436.7415 1841 ROC_int_01 2436.7415 homey [feel?] 2437.2426 1842 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2437.1481 [Well], the small town feel is ev- 2439.2952 1843 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2439.4921 everybody knows everybody. S- you gonna find- like you can go to, let's say, 2443.9565 1844 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2443.9565 (pause 0.80) 2444.7523 1845 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2444.7523 a new job training. 2445.8786 1846 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2445.8786 (pause 0.13) 2446.0110 1847 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2446.0110 You gonna find somebody who knows 2448.1005 1848 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2448.1005 (pause 0.12) 2448.2196 1849 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2448.2196 you or somebody in your family. 2450.3280 1850 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2450.3280 (pause 0.59) 2450.9142 1851 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2450.9142 And you can get anywhere in Rochester in like ten or fifteen minutes. 2454.0769 1852 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2454.0769 (pause 0.88) 2454.9570 1853 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2454.9570 Now the metropolitan feel, 2456.7310 1854 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2456.7310 (pause 0.09) 2456.8208 1855 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2456.8208 like the east 2457.8702 1856 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2457.8702 (pause 0.13) 2458.0003 1857 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2458.0003 end area, it gives you that feel sometimes 2461.8614 1858 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2461.8614 (pause 0.53) 2462.3956 1859 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2462.3956 until you go to a metropolitan area, like (laughing) 2465.7332 1860 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2465.7332 (pause 0.35) 2466.0783 1861 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2466.0783 I went to Boston recently. I was like, oh lord. 2468.4429 1862 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2468.4429 (pause 0.50) 2468.9440 1863 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2468.9440 Like, 2469.2903 1864 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2469.2903 (pause 0.11) 2469.3990 1865 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2469.3990 [beautiful.] 2470.1873 1866 ROC_int_01 2469.4723 [Mm-hm.] 2470.0159 1867 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2470.6269 But 2471.1091 1868 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2471.1091 (pause 0.20) 2471.3124 1869 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2471.3124 it used to be different here. I mean, you can 2474.4098 1870 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2474.4098 (pause 0.17) 2474.5752 1871 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2474.5752 access stuff, and we get like- 2477.0950 1872 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2477.0950 (pause 0.45) 2477.5488 1873 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2477.5488 we get nice concerts here, we have nice stuff here, 2480.8920 1874 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2480.8920 (pause 0.48) 2481.3742 1875 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2481.3742 and we could have nicer things if people knew how to act. 2484.1424 1876 ROC_int_01 2484.7638 Yeah. 2485.0427 1877 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2485.1152 [Yeah.] 2485.4958 1878 ROC_int_01 2485.3705 [I] hear you. 2485.8929 1879 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2485.9000 Mm-hm. 2486.4011 1880 ROC_int_01 2486.5814 Okay, so, 2487.6380 1881 ROC_int_01 2487.6380 (pause 0.62) 2488.2585 1882 ROC_int_01 2488.2585 um, 2488.8967 1883 ROC_int_01 2488.8967 (pause 0.25) 2489.1434 1884 ROC_int_01 2489.1434 w- I asked you about things that are like, you know, your favorite. [What about] things you dislike, or would like to see improved in the [city?] 2496.2070 1885 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2492.2399 [Mm-hm.] 2492.5566 1886 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2492.5566 (pause 3.33) 2495.8873 1887 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2495.8873 [] 2496.0085 1888 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2496.6136 In Rochester, what do I dislike? 2498.6937 1889 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2498.6937 (pause 0.56) 2499.2563 1890 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2499.2563 I don't know, I think 2500.1620 1891 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2500.1620 (pause 0.24) 2500.4031 1892 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2500.4031 the narrow-mindedness of 2502.4454 1893 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2502.4454 (pause 0.16) 2502.6061 1894 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2502.6061 the citizens of Rochester. 2504.3553 1895 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2504.3553 (pause 0.79) 2505.1456 1896 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2505.1456 They don't 2505.6609 1897 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2505.6609 (pause 0.13) 2505.7885 1898 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2505.7885 think outside of Rochester. Like, people would rather spend 2509.4429 1899 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2509.4429 (pause 0.15) 2509.5894 1900 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2509.5894 four, five hundred dollars to have 2511.6453 1901 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2511.6453 (pause 0.25) 2511.8925 1902 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2511.8925 a party 2512.7955 1903 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2512.7955 (pause 0.41) 2513.2020 1904 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2513.2020 here in Rochester where 2514.6675 1905 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2514.6675 (pause 0.39) 2515.0533 1906 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2515.0533 you don't take a trip. I know grown people who have never been on a airplane, and that's just preposterous to me, like what? 2522.0177 1907 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2522.0177 (pause 0.43) 2522.4431 1908 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2522.4431 You've never flown anywhere? 2523.9559 1909 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2523.9559 (pause 0.36) 2524.3152 1910 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2524.3152 Like I 2525.0685 1911 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2525.0685 (pause 0.09) 2525.1583 1912 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2525.1583 try to- like, we went on family vacations every summer, 2528.2162 1913 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2528.2162 (pause 0.23) 2528.4479 1914 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2528.4479 and I try to do the same thing with my child. So you can see, it's things outside of Rochester. Like I'll never forget, her first trip was to- 2535.0530 1915 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2535.0530 (pause 0.52) 2535.5777 1916 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2535.5777 well the- her first trip that she could remember, 2537.4073 1917 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2537.4073 (pause 0.29) 2537.6978 1918 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2537.6978 I took her to Ocean City, Maryland 2539.3012 1919 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2539.3012 (pause 0.13) 2539.4336 1920 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2539.4336 and Baltimore. She was like, I wanna move here. Like I l- she was four, like I- can we stay? I was like, we don't live here. (laughing) 2546.0994 1921 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2546.0994 (pause 0.33) 2546.4303 1922 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2546.4303 This is vacation. It's just like, 2547.9999 1923 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2547.9999 (pause 0.49) 2548.4868 1924 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2548.4868 people don't show their kids other things, so the generations up b- 2551.8678 1925 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2551.8678 (pause 0.53) 2552.4020 1926 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2552.4020 under them are growing up very like 2554.9690 1927 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2554.9690 (pause 0.41) 2555.3756 1928 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2555.3756 narrow-minded and not 2556.6000 1929 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2556.6000 (pause 0.21) 2556.8088 1930 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2556.8088 thinking outside the [box], 2558.1940 1931 ROC_int_01 2558.0521 [Mm-hm.] 2558.6194 1932 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2558.8074 just staying 2559.6784 1933 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2559.6784 (pause 0.41) 2560.0932 1934 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2560.0932 complacent 2560.8496 1935 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2560.8496 (pause 0.48) 2561.3330 1936 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2561.3330 in the same thing, not knowing anything different. 2563.8205 1937 ROC_int_01 2564.6762 Yeah. 2565.0638 1938 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2565.0827 Mm-hm. 2565.6033 1939 ROC_int_01 2565.5649 And would you say that 2566.9359 1940 ROC_int_01 2567.5836 this is a diverse city? 2569.0633 1941 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2570.0533 2570.2093 1942 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2570.2093 (pause 0.85) 2571.0591 1943 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2571.0591 Um, 2572.6759 1944 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2572.6759 (pause 1.12) 2573.7991 1945 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2573.7991 I don't know. 2574.6169 1946 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2574.6169 (pause 0.12) 2574.7351 1947 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2574.7351 Mayb- 2575.0471 1948 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2575.0471 (pause 0.21) 2575.2551 1949 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2575.2551 I don't know, 2575.9406 1950 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2575.9406 (pause 0.57) 2576.5079 1951 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2576.5079 because 2577.2029 1952 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2577.2029 (pause 0.67) 2577.8685 1953 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2577.8685 for it to be diverse, I mean yes our mayor is black, 2581.3156 1954 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2581.3156 (pause 0.12) 2581.4338 1955 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2581.4338 but 2581.8309 1956 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2581.8309 (pause 0.45) 2582.2802 1957 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2582.2802 I kind of think that was happenstance, cause I'd never heard of her until she was running for mayor. I don't know if you have the same experience, but 2589.0695 1958 ROC_int_01 2589.0695 Yeah, [/I don't really-/] 2589.8535 1959 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2589.4005 [I ain't know who] the hell she was. I did not vote for her. 2592.0534 1960 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2592.5829 Um, (laughing) 2593.5284 1961 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2593.5284 (pause 0.48) 2594.0058 1962 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2594.0058 and it's like- 2595.4099 1963 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2595.4099 (pause 0.63) 2596.0379 1964 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2596.0379 I wouldn't call it diverse. We have 2598.8543 1965 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2598.8543 (pause 0.20) 2599.0528 1966 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2599.0528 minorities in 2600.1024 1967 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2600.1024 (pause 0.11) 2600.2123 1968 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2600.2123 powerful positions, but it's like 2602.1124 1969 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2602.1124 (pause 0.74) 2602.8500 1970 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2602.8500 I don't know- 2604.0036 1971 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2604.0036 (pause 0.87) 2604.8695 1972 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2604.8695 I didn't know who they were, or they weren't 2607.9063 1973 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2607.9063 (pause 0.51) 2608.4137 1974 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2608.4137 advocating or 2610.2520 1975 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2610.2520 (pause 0.38) 2610.6302 1976 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2610.6302 making theirself be known in the black community until it was time to vote. 2614.8802 1977 ROC_int_01 2615.5444 [Mm.] 2615.7053 1978 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2615.5518 [/So/] I wouldn't call it diverse. 2617.6607 1979 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2618.8142 I wouldn't call it diverse. 2620.0150 1980 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2620.0150 (pause 0.25) 2620.2684 1981 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2620.2684 I don't think it is. 2621.1193 1982 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2621.1193 (pause 0.45) 2621.5731 1983 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2621.5731 It's 2621.8804 1984 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2621.8804 (pause 0.33) 2622.2114 1985 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2622.2114 m- 2622.3674 1986 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2622.3674 (pause 0.08) 2622.4446 1987 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2622.4446 seriously like black 2623.6336 1988 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2623.6336 (pause 0.22) 2623.8557 1989 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2623.8557 or white. Like 2624.9620 1990 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2624.9620 (pause 0.55) 2625.5167 1991 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2625.5167 I don't think Rochester's very [diverse.] 2627.4833 1992 ROC_int_01 2627.3462 [Mm.] 2627.7812 1993 ROC_int_01 2627.9797 Okay. 2628.4997 1994 ROC_int_01 2628.4997 (pause 0.49) 2628.9894 1995 ROC_int_01 2628.9894 And, um, do you- 2630.5022 1996 ROC_int_01 2630.5022 (pause 0.26) 2630.7575 1997 ROC_int_01 2630.7575 are you also thinking about that with relation to like this 2633.4833 1998 ROC_int_01 2633.4833 (pause 0.19) 2633.6724 1999 ROC_int_01 2633.6724 city versus suburb kind of- 2636.3035 2000 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2637.3985 [Mm-hm.] 2637.9233 2001 ROC_int_01 2637.4398 [/?/ yeah, /okay/.] 2638.4441 2002 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2638.1851 [Yeah], I don't think it- 2639.7575 2003 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2640.0856 it really is, like I lived in Greece for three years. 2642.6814 2004 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2642.6814 (pause 0.39) 2643.0667 2005 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2643.0667 I'll never forget because- you're gonna laugh. (laughing) 2645.2063 2006 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2645.2063 (pause 0.51) 2645.7121 2007 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2645.7121 The day I voted for Barack Obama the first time, [I was] followed by a Greece police officer 2651.9924 2008 ROC_int_01 2649.1744 [Mm-hm.] 2649.5232 2009 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2652.4014 from the moment I got in- 2654.1694 2010 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2654.1694 (pause 0.11) 2654.2833 2011 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2654.2833 into the town because I was driving /RD-NAME-4/'s dad's truck, 2657.6828 2012 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2657.6828 (pause 0.44) 2658.1190 2013 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2658.1190 because my car was in the shop. 2659.9708 2014 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2659.9708 (pause 0.15) 2660.1241 2015 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2660.1241 He had a black jeep with black rims and black tint. 2662.8992 2016 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2662.8992 (pause 0.53) 2663.4334 2017 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2663.4334 They followed me. I went from like up this way 2666.5874 2018 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2666.5874 (pause 0.62) 2667.2067 2019 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2667.2067 to the grocery store when Wegmans was on Dewey, 2669.5799 2020 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2669.5799 (pause 0.78) 2670.3552 2021 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2670.3552 to Little Caesars to get a pizza, 2671.9973 2022 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2671.9973 (pause 0.09) 2672.0894 2023 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2672.0894 to the church to vote, 2673.3013 2024 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2673.3013 (pause 0.14) 2673.4443 2025 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2673.4443 and then to the- my apartment. 2675.0233 2026 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2675.0233 (pause 0.31) 2675.3294 2027 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2675.3294 And the officer followed me the whole time, and then when he see me get out I was like, are you following me? 2680.5635 2028 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2680.5635 (pause 0.35) 2680.9117 2029 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2680.9117 He was like, yeah I was just seeing, da da. I was like, what were you seeing? I was like, I live out here. 2686.4740 2030 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2686.4740 (pause 0.41) 2686.8814 2031 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2686.8814 I was like, you wanna see my license? He was like, no, have a good day. He literally followed me, and I was like 2692.2707 2032 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2692.2707 (pause 0.41) 2692.6788 2033 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2692.6788 in Wegmans shopping for a while, 2694.6939 2034 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2694.6939 (pause 0.63) 2695.3259 2035 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2695.3259 and Little Caesars for a minute, in the church voting for a minute, and he was 2699.5499 2036 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2699.5499 (pause 0.26) 2699.8146 2037 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2699.8146 every step of the way like right behind me. 2701.6572 2038 ROC_int_01 2702.4439 Oh [man.] 2703.5596 2039 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2703.3043 [Mm-hm.] 2703.7676 2040 ROC_int_01 2704.0655 So do you- 2704.8266 2041 ROC_int_01 2704.8266 (pause 0.11) 2704.9353 2042 ROC_int_01 2704.9353 what do you feel about I guess, uh, 2706.8641 2043 ROC_int_01 2706.8641 (pause 0.37) 2707.2376 2044 ROC_int_01 2707.2376 the police force here? I feel like 2708.9970 2045 ROC_int_01 2708.9970 (pause 0.58) 2709.5738 2046 ROC_int_01 2709.5738 tensions have been rising especially this summer with [like the protests and-] 2713.5855 2047 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2712.3205 [The summer- yeah it's been] crazy but becau- like I went- 2715.7979 2048 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2715.9674 again, I went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ and /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 2717.7874 2049 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2717.7874 (pause 0.38) 2718.1656 2050 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2718.1656 A lot of the police I personally know, like I've either went to middle- I mean high school or el- or college with them. 2725.2687 2051 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2725.2687 (pause 0.39) 2725.6564 2052 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2725.6564 So I have never had 2727.8639 2053 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2727.8639 (pause 0.15) 2728.0152 2054 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2728.0152 a negative 2729.0413 2055 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2729.0413 (pause 0.44) 2729.4818 2056 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2729.4818 encounter with 2730.5076 2057 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2730.5076 (pause 0.65) 2731.1541 2058 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2731.1541 any 2731.6859 2059 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2731.6859 (pause 0.09) 2731.7805 2060 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2731.7805 law enforcement, not- 2733.2602 2061 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2733.2602 (pause 1.03) 2734.2863 2062 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2734.2863 I don't know. 2734.8630 2063 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2734.8630 (pause 0.26) 2735.1230 2064 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2735.1230 And I thi- 2735.5852 2065 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2735.5852 (pause 0.09) 2735.6748 2066 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2735.6748 I've never had a negative 2737.1189 2067 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2737.1189 (pause 0.18) 2737.2985 2068 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2737.2985 encounter, 2738.1258 2069 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2738.1258 (pause 0.54) 2738.6647 2070 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2738.6647 even getting pulled over, I've gotten out of tickets by just keeping it real like 2743.0148 2071 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2743.0148 (pause 0.43) 2743.4450 2072 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2743.4450 I don't drive illegally. Oh, you s- you turned right when you weren't supposed to. Oh I'm sorry I didn't know that. Is that a new sign? Oh yeah it is, okay, 2751.3029 2073 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2751.3029 (pause 0.34) 2751.6433 2074 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2751.6433 be careful, have a nice- Like, 2753.0237 2075 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2753.0237 (pause 0.39) 2753.4114 2076 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2753.4114 I don't- I've never had- 2754.9336 2077 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2754.9336 (pause 0.38) 2755.3174 2078 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2755.3174 never had a negative experience. And it's crazy because 2758.1775 2079 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2758.1775 (pause 0.83) 2759.0096 2080 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2759.0096 my y- younger life like all of my mother's brothers 2763.3124 2081 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2763.3124 (pause 0.16) 2763.4731 2082 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2763.4731 and nephews (laughing) 2764.7117 2083 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2764.7117 (pause 0.63) 2765.3405 2084 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2765.3405 sell drugs, 2766.2245 2085 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2766.2245 (pause 0.30) 2766.5232 2086 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2766.5232 notoriously known by the police force 2769.6433 2087 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2769.6433 (pause 0.09) 2769.7300 2088 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2769.7300 for being drug dealers. 2770.8914 2089 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2770.8914 (pause 0.35) 2771.2459 2090 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2771.2459 But as I got older 2772.4845 2091 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2772.4845 (pause 0.81) 2773.2938 2092 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2773.2938 I went to school with kids who are now police officers. 2776.1255 2093 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2776.1255 (pause 0.30) 2776.4281 2094 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2776.4281 My last name happens to be /RD-NAME-2/, 2778.1923 2095 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2778.1923 (pause 0.28) 2778.4759 2096 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2778.4759 but my mother's, their last name is notorious in Rochester for it. 2782.8110 2097 ROC_int_01 2783.8085 [Oh.] 2784.3939 2098 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2784.1820 [Yeah] it's- 2784.7887 2099 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2785.3300 it's a trip. 2785.8949 2100 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2785.8949 (pause 0.45) 2786.3433 2101 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2786.3433 So I see both 2787.2793 2102 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2787.2793 (pause 0.57) 2787.8466 2103 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2787.8466 ends of it, 2788.9008 2104 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2788.9008 (pause 0.61) 2789.5107 2105 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2789.5107 and I've never- I- I've never had a negative experience. 2792.7215 2106 ROC_int_01 2793.0098 Okay. 2793.5157 2107 ROC_int_01 2793.5157 (pause 0.72) 2794.2390 2108 ROC_int_01 2794.2390 Okay. [W-] 2795.0332 2109 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2794.7543 [Besides] the cop following me in Greece, 2796.5838 2110 ROC_int_01 2796.7343 [Right.] 2797.1669 2111 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2796.8029 [but he] backed down when I was like, what's up? 2798.3738 2112 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2798.6243 What's the problem? (laughing) 2799.7934 2113 ROC_int_01 2800.4884 Yeah. 2800.8402 2114 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2800.8470 [Mm-hm.] 2801.2637 2115 ROC_int_01 2801.0045 [Okay.] That's good. 2802.1184 2116 ROC_int_01 2802.4635 Um, 2802.9697 2117 ROC_int_01 2802.9697 (pause 0.63) 2803.6008 2118 ROC_int_01 2803.6008 so I wanted to also turn 2805.5107 2119 ROC_int_01 2805.5107 (pause 0.25) 2805.7594 2120 ROC_int_01 2805.7594 to some more language related questions. 2808.6325 2121 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2808.6353 [Mm-hm.] 2808.9870 2122 ROC_int_01 2808.7503 [Um], 2809.1048 2123 ROC_int_01 2809.5808 as you may or may not know, I study dialects [across] 2813.0318 2124 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2812.4787 [Mm-hm.] 2812.9514 2125 ROC_int_01 2813.3399 Rochester, 2814.3894 2126 ROC_int_01 2814.3894 (pause 0.36) 2814.7534 2127 ROC_int_01 2814.7534 and so 2815.6753 2128 ROC_int_01 2815.6753 (pause 0.56) 2816.2379 2129 ROC_int_01 2816.2379 [one of the things] I'm interested in that I ask people who live here is whether or not they, um, 2821.3586 2130 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2816.3892 [Sorry.] 2816.9517 2131 ROC_int_01 2821.9779 think that Rochesterians 2823.6892 2132 ROC_int_01 2823.6892 (pause 0.17) 2823.8547 2133 ROC_int_01 2823.8547 talk a certain [way.] 2825.1080 2134 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2824.7746 [] Oh my [goodness.] 2826.1786 2135 ROC_int_01 2825.6113 [Right, so when you go] out of town and somebody hears you talk, 2828.7248 2136 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2826.2826 [Uh-huh.] 2826.6750 2137 ROC_int_01 2829.2165 what's maybe like the first thing they'll say? 2831.2170 2138 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2831.5109 A lot of people assume I'm from down south. 2834.7910 2139 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2834.7910 (pause 1.01) 2835.8027 2140 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2835.8027 They- I guess 2836.9987 2141 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2836.9987 (pause 0.42) 2837.4156 2142 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2837.4156 we have a southern drawl to our speech, 2840.3797 2143 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2840.3797 (pause 0.59) 2840.9706 2144 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2840.9706 but, um, 2842.0070 2145 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2842.0070 (pause 0.61) 2842.6142 2146 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2842.6142 I don't hear it because I'm so used to it but 2845.3207 2147 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2845.3207 (pause 0.49) 2845.8077 2148 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2845.8077 we were in- where were we? Vegas. 2847.7270 2149 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2847.7270 (pause 0.36) 2848.0910 2150 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2848.0910 And they're like, where are you from? We're like, oh we're from New York. They're like, really? (laughing) 2852.1764 2151 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2852.1764 (pause 1.06) 2853.2401 2152 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2853.2401 Really? I said, yeah. He's like, oh I thought y'all was from the Carolinas or something. I was like, no we're from New York. 2859.0557 2153 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2859.0557 (pause 0.32) 2859.3772 2154 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2859.3772 And then we met s- a guy, a- um, he was a bartender. He was from Syracuse, 2863.8313 2155 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2863.8313 (pause 0.38) 2864.2142 2156 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2864.2142 and he was like, oh where are you guys from? And we told him too, /it's/ like Rochester. He's like, really? Oh. 2869.1194 2157 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2869.1194 (pause 0.43) 2869.5543 2158 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2869.5543 Like, even from 2870.7654 2159 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2870.7654 (pause 0.23) 2870.9923 2160 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2870.9923 Rochester to Syracuse, they think we talk funny. 2873.0630 2161 ROC_int_01 2873.7484 Wow. 2874.2212 2162 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2874.2543 [Mm-hm.] 2874.6750 2163 ROC_int_01 2874.3016 [That's] really interesting. 2875.8994 2164 ROC_int_01 2876.1736 I've heard the southern thing. I haven't [heard the Syracuse] thing, 2879.5499 2165 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2878.1836 [Mm-hm.] 2878.5997 2166 ROC_int_01 2879.8714 but for the southern thing, 2881.4929 2167 ROC_int_01 2881.4929 (pause 1.14) 2882.6378 2168 ROC_int_01 2882.6378 I'm wondering how much the fact that, you know, so many people 2886.4765 2169 ROC_int_01 2886.4765 (pause 0.11) 2886.5899 2170 ROC_int_01 2886.5899 have moved here from the South, [like our parents] and [stuff are] not native, 2890.2640 2171 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2888.0791 [Mm.] 2888.5376 2172 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2888.5376 (pause 0.32) 2888.8552 2173 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2888.8552 [Mm-hm.] 2889.3374 2174 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2890.3964 Yeah. 2890.8029 2175 ROC_int_01 2891.1291 um, or grandparents I should say, 2893.0816 2176 ROC_int_01 2893.0816 (pause 0.43) 2893.5118 2177 ROC_int_01 2893.5118 um, 2893.9562 2178 ROC_int_01 2893.9562 (pause 0.26) 2894.2170 2179 ROC_int_01 2894.2170 how much that affects 2895.5218 2180 ROC_int_01 2895.5218 (pause 0.70) 2896.2262 2181 ROC_int_01 2896.2262 the [perception of] 2897.1150 2182 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2896.6091 [Yeah.] 2897.0677 2183 ROC_int_01 2897.3702 you know, 2897.8335 2184 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2897.8997 Mm-hm. 2898.4158 2185 ROC_int_01 2898.4241 people's speech. Are- is your mother originally from Rochester? 2900.9929 2186 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2901.0323 She was born in a little town 2903.8652 2187 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2903.8652 (pause 0.14) 2904.0023 2188 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2904.0023 in /RD-ADDRESS-2/, Georgia, 2905.7306 2189 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2905.7306 (pause 0.69) 2906.4161 2190 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2906.4161 and everybody there- if we- if we go- because, uh, we have family members that go every year 2910.9601 2191 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2910.9601 (pause 0.36) 2911.3241 2192 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2911.3241 we're related to every damn body in this little baby town, like it's a very small town. And they came up there 2917.8441 2193 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2917.8441 (pause 0.69) 2918.5343 2194 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2918.5343 f- with, um, my mother's oldest sister, she passed. Her husband 2922.4211 2195 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2922.4211 (pause 0.50) 2922.9222 2196 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2922.9222 came up here 2923.9197 2197 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2923.9197 (pause 0.23) 2924.1467 2198 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2924.1467 to sell drugs 2924.9976 2199 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2924.9976 (pause 0.28) 2925.2726 2200 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2925.2726 so he moved 2926.2134 2201 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2926.2134 (pause 0.19) 2926.4025 2202 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2926.4025 the whole- my grandmother, like my aunt said, 2928.8419 2203 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2928.8419 (pause 0.38) 2929.2201 2204 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2929.2201 I'm not going without my family, 2931.1158 2205 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2931.1158 (pause 0.25) 2931.3663 2206 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2931.3663 so he moved my grandmother and all her kids up here in order to get his wife to come up th- here with him. 2936.9267 2207 ROC_int_01 2937.3522 [Wow.] 2937.9175 2208 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2937.6622 [And], 2938.2295 2209 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2938.8677 he started n- the- the drug thing 2941.0101 2210 ROC_int_01 2941.0487 [Mm.] 2941.7271 2211 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2941.2039 [up here.] 2941.6531 2212 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2942.5607 He just passed away, and he was still selling drugs 2944.9103 2213 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2944.9103 (pause 0.31) 2945.2223 2214 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2945.2223 in his seventies. 2946.1111 2215 ROC_int_01 2946.3388 /Wow/. (whispered) 2946.9108 2216 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2947.1614 Oh [yes.] 2947.6767 2217 ROC_int_01 2947.5349 [How?] 2948.2014 2218 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2948.7498 I don't know, man. 2949.4022 2219 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2949.4022 (pause 0.45) 2949.8513 2220 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2949.8513 Pills. 2950.4895 2221 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2950.4895 (pause 0.37) 2950.8630 2222 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2950.8630 2951.1845 2223 ROC_int_01 2951.2270 Yeah, [/inaudible/ ] 2953.2673 2224 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2952.0732 [What- what's it] called? The b- the- for guys? 2955.2954 2225 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2955.4940 What's it [called?] 2956.2208 2226 ROC_int_01 2955.9203 [Oh], the [Viagra.] (laughing) 2957.4000 2227 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2957.1069 [Yeah.] (laughing) [/??/] 2958.3455 2228 ROC_int_01 2957.7356 [Yeah.] (laughing) 2958.3077 2229 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2958.5960 Let's get it popping. (laughing) 2959.5226 2230 ROC_int_01 2959.8632 [Right.] 2960.2438 2231 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2960.0121 [Yup.] He, um, 2961.1704 2232 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2961.7062 he- my mom's family is from n- /RD-ADDRESS-2/, Georgia, and my dad's family is from 2967.0727 2233 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2967.0727 (pause 0.37) 2967.4414 2234 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2967.4414 North Carolina. They're from Charlotte, 2969.2142 2235 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2969.2142 (pause 0.62) 2969.8335 2236 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2969.8335 and half- most of them are white. My dad's w- biracial. Most of them are white. 2974.2356 2237 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2974.2356 (pause 0.87) 2975.1008 2238 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2975.1008 They still like 2976.1786 2239 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2976.1786 (pause 0.78) 2976.9634 2240 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2976.9634 plantation. 2977.6583 2241 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2977.6583 (pause 0.27) 2977.9278 2242 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2977.9278 Like, they still have the house, 2979.0916 2243 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2979.0916 (pause 0.29) 2979.3800 2244 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2979.3800 and all of the family live in trailers on the land. 2981.9092 2245 ROC_int_01 2982.7318 Wow. 2983.4361 2246 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2983.5504 S- it's so 2984.1981 2247 ROC_int_01 2984.4092 [And do you go] visit them, [or?] 2985.9202 2248 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2984.4767 [messed up.] 2984.9673 2249 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2984.9673 (pause 0.68) 2985.6509 2250 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2985.6509 [We] used to go in the summer, but as we got older, 2988.6864 2251 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2989.1036 my aunt didn't want us down there because now that we're older, like you can hang with your older cousins and they doing ratchet things, and she didn't want us- (laughing) they didn't want us doing ratchet things. 2998.1887 2252 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2998.1887 (pause 0.34) 2998.5318 2253 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2998.5318 And my mother's so 2999.5671 2254 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2999.5671 (pause 0.27) 2999.8366 2255 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 2999.8366 like, narrow minded to travel. She hated when we went out of town, and she said she didn't sleep. 3005.4414 2256 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3005.4414 (pause 0.95) 3006.3878 2257 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3006.3878 Like, w- because we would always go with my aunt and uncle, she wouldn't get any sleep. 3010.6709 2258 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3010.6709 (pause 0.62) 3011.2902 2259 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3011.2902 I remember our first time in Florida, 3012.8180 2260 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3012.8180 (pause 0.26) 3013.0780 2261 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3013.0780 we came back, and she's like, 3014.6853 2262 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3014.6853 (pause 0.70) 3015.3850 2263 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3015.3850 why y'all so dark? Oh my god. And da da da da. Y'all ain't going back. Like, she was very weird. 3020.9851 2264 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3020.9851 (pause 0.68) 3021.6667 2265 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3021.6667 Yeah, she's weird. 3022.5271 2266 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3022.5271 (pause 0.78) 3023.3071 2267 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3023.3071 She [didn't like] it. 3024.1202 2268 ROC_int_01 3023.3950 [] 3023.8224 2269 ROC_int_01 3024.5977 Right. [I feel like] that's a thing though. 3026.3752 2270 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3024.8814 [Yeah.] 3025.3683 2271 ROC_int_01 3026.8685 [/?/ woulda] been like, you getting dark, [/you know/.] 3029.2098 2272 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3026.9122 [Mm-hm.] 3027.2904 2273 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3027.2904 (pause 1.27) 3028.5621 2274 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3028.5621 [Yeah she told] me, like, w- she was like, ever since that- y'all was going to Florida in the summer, 3033.6024 2275 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3033.9759 y'all skin ain't been the same. I was like, (laughing) 3036.5201 2276 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3036.5201 (pause 0.42) 3036.9409 2277 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3036.9409 whatchu mean? (laughing) 3038.2551 2278 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3038.2551 (pause 0.41) 3038.6617 2279 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3038.6617 We're- I'm black, 3039.5363 2280 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3039.5363 (pause 0.19) 3039.7301 2281 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3039.7301 man. What do you [mean?] 3041.0254 2282 ROC_int_01 3040.8032 [Right.] 3041.3563 2283 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3041.8772 Yeah, even- I remember we were in- me and /RD-NAME-2/ were in Marshalls. She was like 3046.1461 2284 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3046.1461 (pause 0.31) 3046.4534 2285 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3046.4534 three or four in the cart, and she was talking. 3048.8180 2286 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3048.8180 (pause 0.54) 3049.3569 2287 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3049.3569 This nice couple, black couple, they were like, oh my god she's so cute. Where is she from? I was like, we're from here. 3055.0780 2288 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3055.0780 (pause 0.37) 3055.4514 2289 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3055.4514 They're like we're visiting from so and so. He's like, she has a Southern accent. I was like, really? (laughing) 3060.3775 2290 ROC_int_01 3060.7565 [Really?] Ugh. 3062.3449 2291 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3061.3143 [Mm-hm.] 3061.8013 2292 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3062.6475 A lot of people think we have a Southern accent. A lot of people think Rochester is country. 3067.0969 2293 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3067.0969 (pause 0.74) 3067.8344 2294 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3067.8344 Think it's [country.] 3068.3969 2295 ROC_int_01 3068.0897 [And I've] heard that, and [I- I-] I guess I don't know what features or what exactly- I'm like, is it certain words? [You know] is it, 3076.3588 2296 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3069.3850 [Mm-hm.] 3069.8057 2297 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3069.8057 (pause 5.70) 3075.5079 2298 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3075.5079 [Mm-hm.] 3075.9097 2299 ROC_int_01 3076.9734 um, 3077.6542 2300 ROC_int_01 3077.6542 (pause 1.23) 3078.8889 2301 ROC_int_01 3078.8889 certain, you know, pronunciations of [things?] 3081.9192 2302 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3081.8294 [Mm-hm.] 3082.2265 2303 ROC_int_01 3082.1319 [Yeah.] 3082.6425 2304 ROC_int_01 3082.9592 That's one of the things I'm really curious to 3085.1158 2305 ROC_int_01 3085.1158 (pause 0.91) 3086.0282 2306 ROC_int_01 3086.0282 uncover, sort [of like, what is this?] 3088.2974 2307 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3086.9595 [Yeah, that would be interesting.] 3088.5858 2308 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3089.0585 Because it- 3089.6022 2309 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3089.6022 (pause 0.27) 3089.8725 2310 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3089.8725 assume like I- even like I w- 3091.5176 2311 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3091.5176 (pause 0.64) 3092.1558 2312 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3092.1558 work with people from the city and went to college with people from the city, and they think we talk 3096.7423 2313 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3096.7423 (pause 0.25) 3096.9929 2314 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3096.9929 funny, and they talk crazy 3098.6333 2315 ROC_int_01 3098.7042 Yeah. 3099.2195 2316 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3099.2715 to me. 3099.8814 2317 ROC_int_01 3100.6661 [Yeah] they- yeah I've gotten that espes- 3102.7423 2318 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3100.8316 [Like-] 3101.2429 2319 ROC_int_01 3102.9267 when I've gone out of town, definitely people from the city 3105.0871 2320 ROC_int_01 3105.0871 (pause 0.38) 3105.4701 2321 ROC_int_01 3105.4701 and definitely, um, 3107.0112 2322 ROC_int_01 3107.0112 (pause 1.55) 3108.5627 2323 ROC_int_01 3108.5627 folks like just in conferences, I feel like, when we would go and like 3112.2737 2324 ROC_int_01 3112.2737 (pause 0.35) 3112.6283 2325 ROC_int_01 3112.6283 Pennsylvania and stuff like that, 3114.4660 2326 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3114.4370 They talk [funny.] 3115.5527 2327 ROC_int_01 3114.9617 [Pittsburgh.] Yeah [and they'd be like], 3116.5407 2328 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3115.8174 [They definitely] talk [funny and, um-] 3117.9806 2329 ROC_int_01 3117.1817 [we thought y'all was from] the South. 3118.5668 2330 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3118.8930 Yeah. 3120.5835 2331 ROC_int_01 3120.8577 I'm like, 3121.4108 2332 ROC_int_01 3121.4108 (pause 0.24) 3121.6500 2333 ROC_int_01 3121.6500 you know [what I mean.] 3122.6806 2334 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3122.0282 [Yeah they think] we live in this cow-tipping 3125.2098 2335 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3125.7582 town. 3126.2026 2336 ROC_int_01 3126.5154 Yeah. 3127.0638 2337 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3127.2151 But 3127.4609 2338 ROC_int_01 3127.7020 [Yeah.] (whispered) 3128.2835 2339 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3127.8296 [I don't-] 3128.3969 2340 ROC_int_01 3129.0304 Yeah I need to try [someone doing impersonations again.] 3131.7771 2341 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3129.7963 [Of course we don't hear it.] 3131.8669 2342 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3132.2479 Yeah I would like- that would be interesting [because] I think we talk like the people on TV. [] 3138.6639 2343 ROC_int_01 3134.3638 [Yeah.] 3134.7137 2344 ROC_int_01 3134.7137 (pause 3.07) 3137.7799 2345 ROC_int_01 3137.7799 [] 3138.1581 2346 ROC_int_01 3138.8246 Everybody thinks they [talk /??/. (laughing) You] know what I mean, even folks in the South, [folks in the West.] 3144.4228 2347 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3140.3544 [Ri- ] 3141.5457 2348 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3141.5457 (pause 2.00) 3143.5435 2349 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3143.5435 [Yeah, I'm tryna] think [like-] 3145.3068 2350 ROC_int_01 3145.1319 [Yup.] 3145.4581 2351 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3145.8127 I- like my one client again from Grenada, she- 3148.6850 2352 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3148.6850 (pause 0.55) 3149.2334 2353 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3149.2334 she- uh, she said I have an accent also. 3151.6547 2354 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3151.6547 (pause 0.35) 3152.0046 2355 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3152.0046 And I was like- she asked me like, where you from girl? 3154.0137 2356 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3154.0137 (pause 0.23) 3154.2454 2357 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3154.2454 I was like, Rochester, New York 3156.1316 2358 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3156.1316 (pause 0.13) 3156.2601 2359 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3156.2601 girl. 3156.9267 2360 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3156.9267 (pause 0.16) 3157.0835 2361 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3157.0835 Like, 3157.4215 2362 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3157.4215 (pause 0.83) 3158.2551 2363 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3158.2551 they think 3158.9548 2364 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3158.9548 (pause 0.21) 3159.1628 2365 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3159.1628 we talk weird. 3160.0185 2366 ROC_int_01 3160.2123 [Mm-hm.] 3160.5999 2367 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3160.3541 [So] that would be interesting to know 3162.2215 2368 ROC_int_01 3162.2864 [/Mm-hm/.] 3162.9813 2369 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3162.5579 [like all] 3163.5141 2370 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3163.6181 the traveling. 3164.7468 2371 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3164.7468 (pause 0.64) 3165.3850 2372 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3165.3850 You hear other people talk, like, you know, you can 3167.2114 2373 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3167.2114 (pause 0.10) 3167.3149 2374 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3167.3149 spot somebody that I'm like, you're from Boston. 3169.6945 2375 ROC_int_01 3170.0160 Right. 3170.3563 2376 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3170.3658 You're from Philadelphia. 3171.6497 2377 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3171.6497 (pause 0.27) 3171.9239 2378 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3171.9239 You're from the South. 3173.0254 2379 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3173.0254 (pause 0.68) 3173.7042 2380 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3173.7042 But I heard a- 3174.7254 2381 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3174.7254 (pause 1.10) 3175.8269 2382 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3175.8269 I had never seen an Asian with a Southern accent and it blew 3178.9479 2383 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3178.9479 (pause 0.11) 3179.0536 2384 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3179.0536 my mind. 3179.7610 2385 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3179.7610 (pause 0.72) 3180.4795 2386 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3180.4795 Mind blown. I was [like], 3181.9687 2387 ROC_int_01 3181.8032 [Yeah.] 3182.2051 2388 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3182.2760 oh my god, (laughing) like I wanted to record him talking 3185.5388 2389 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3185.5388 (pause 0.37) 3185.9122 2390 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3185.9122 cause it was so crazy to me. 3187.6472 2391 ROC_int_01 3188.0301 Mm-hm. 3188.6144 2392 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3188.6623 But yeah it's- 3189.2593 2393 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3189.2593 (pause 1.02) 3190.2806 2394 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3190.2806 it's interesting. 3191.1720 2395 ROC_int_01 3191.3091 Yeah. It really is. 3192.9759 2396 ROC_int_01 3192.9759 (pause 0.38) 3193.3588 2397 ROC_int_01 3193.3588 Yeah, it's fascinating. 3194.6900 2398 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3194.7326 Mm-hm. 3195.1912 2399 ROC_int_01 3195.2384 Okay, well, 3196.2596 2400 ROC_int_01 3196.2596 (pause 0.27) 3196.5338 2401 ROC_int_01 3196.5338 those are all my [questions,] 3198.3141 2402 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3197.8035 [That was] so [fun, oh my god.] 3199.7512 2403 ROC_int_01 3198.5741 [um, so] thank you for doing this interview. [Do you still consent] to me [using it?] 3203.7184 2404 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3201.6620 [No problem.] 3202.5507 2405 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3202.5507 (pause 0.82) 3203.3686 2406 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3203.3686 [Yes I] do, and I had told like so- I don't know, I was like, oh I gotta do this with /RD-NAME-2/ tonight. I was like, 3208.4562 2407 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3208.8202 for her [dissertation. Like], yes. (laughing) 3212.2665 2408 ROC_int_01 3210.2999 [] 3211.5432 2409 ROC_int_01 3212.6589 [I'm trying out here, you know.] 3214.2718 2410 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3212.8772 [So anytime I can help], you know [I'm all for it. I'm so excited.] 3217.2170 2411 ROC_int_01 3214.7965 [Yeah, thank you. I really appreciate] it, [yeah.] 3218.1578 2412 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3218.0112 [So] proud, oh my [god.] 3220.0732 2413 ROC_int_01 3219.5769 [Yay.] [] 3221.2740 2414 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3220.4089 [That's so exciting.] 3221.3780 2415 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3221.6191 I [know you] hear it all the time, but it's like, 3223.5999 2416 ROC_int_01 3221.7027 [/Well-/] 3221.9958 2417 ROC_se0_ag2_f_02 3224.2712 nigga we made it, no. [] 3225.4852 2418 ROC_int_01 3225.3113 [] 3225.4852