Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 0.5348 Oh, okay. 1.1316 2 ROC_int_01 1.4157 1.9706 3 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 2.4089 Um, 2.9473 4 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 2.9473 (pause 1.54) 4.4839 5 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 4.4839 4.5492 6 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 4.5492 (pause 0.12) 4.6658 7 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 4.6658 So, but in, in terms like the impact on the students, 7.0426 8 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 7.0426 (pause 0.09) 7.1313 9 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 7.1313 um, 7.5790 10 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 7.5790 (pause 1.83) 9.4124 11 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 9.4124 I- Pittsford work 10.4021 12 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 10.4021 (pause 0.13) 10.5280 13 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 10.5280 cr- has created almost a bubble. 11.6705 14 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 11.6705 (pause 0.60) 12.2667 15 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 12.2667 Where, 13.0384 16 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 13.0384 (pause 0.93) 13.9733 17 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 13.9733 you'll have kids who've traveled all of the world who go to these schools. 18.2236 18 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 18.2236 (pause 0.44) 18.6684 19 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 18.6684 But, have no concept of diversity. They have no concept of 21.5127 20 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 21.5127 (pause 0.68) 22.1935 21 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 22.1935 Uh, uh, of- 23.0082 22 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 23.0082 (pause 0.12) 23.1312 23 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 23.1312 of struggling. 23.7043 24 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 23.7043 (pause 0.69) 24.3944 25 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 24.3944 Um, 24.9761 26 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 24.9761 (pause 1.10) 26.0772 27 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 26.0772 or what, what real struggling might look like. 28.3987 28 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 28.3987 (pause 0.65) 29.0515 29 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 29.0515 And, so, 30.3338 30 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 30.3338 (pause 2.08) 32.4170 31 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 32.4170 their opinions of the world become very solidified, very quickly. 35.4385 32 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 35.4385 (pause 0.54) 35.9794 33 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 35.9794 Um, 36.5436 34 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 36.5436 (pause 0.12) 36.6637 35 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 36.6637 supported by th- 37.8667 36 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 37.8667 (pause 0.91) 38.7807 37 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 38.7807 uh, 39.2563 38 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 39.2563 (pause 2.12) 41.3779 39 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 41.3779 a gilded cage if you will. 43.0486 40 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 43.0486 (pause 0.77) 43.8226 41 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 43.8226 Um, 44.5081 42 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 44.5081 (pause 1.19) 45.6979 43 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 45.6979 and so, 46.2575 44 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 46.2575 (pause 1.05) 47.3113 45 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 47.3113 their 48.0527 46 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 48.0527 (pause 0.21) 48.2625 47 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 48.2625 interactions and the way they handle themselves, then propagates the same mentality that the town has, 52.3173 48 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 52.3173 (pause 0.27) 52.5910 49 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 52.5910 which is what they want. 53.6657 50 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 53.6657 (pause 0.46) 54.1226 51 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 54.1226 Whereas, 55.2406 52 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 55.2406 (pause 0.44) 55.6838 53 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 55.6838 like, if you, if you talk to somebody, 57.2408 54 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 57.2408 (pause 0.73) 57.9714 55 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 57.9714 um, 58.5584 56 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 58.5584 (pause 0.44) 58.9961 57 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 58.9961 from Pittsford or even 60.3903 58 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 60.3903 (pause 0.48) 60.8752 59 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 60.8752 at Honeyway. Two years ago, I had the chance to long term sub for them when I moved back to town. 64.4617 60 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 64.4617 (pause 0.76) 65.2264 61 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 65.2264 And, it was about three weeks after, 67.4338 62 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 67.4338 (pause 0.30) 67.7369 63 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 67.7369 it was three weeks before 69.0052 64 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 69.0052 (pause 0.73) 69.7373 65 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 69.7373 the Baltimore riots occurred. 71.3058 66 ROC_int_01 71.5624 Hm. 71.7245 67 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 72.0146 Now, to put things in perspective, where Freddie Gray was arrested was about eight blocks south of the school that I was teaching at. 76.3107 68 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 76.3107 (pause 0.53) 76.8423 69 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 76.8423 And, where the riots broke out that Monday, was about 79.6075 70 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 79.6075 (pause 0.45) 80.0598 71 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 80.0598 my school was two blocks, no. 81.5381 72 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 81.5381 (pause 0.47) 82.0044 73 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 82.0044 three blocks south. 82.8025 74 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 82.8025 (pause 0.68) 83.4861 75 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 83.4861 So, you talk about 84.3647 76 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 84.3647 (pause 0.48) 84.8476 77 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 84.8476 about a ten block stretch 86.3818 78 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 86.3818 (pause 0.63) 87.0159 79 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 87.0159 less than three miles 88.4754 80 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 88.4754 (pause 0.48) 88.9510 81 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 88.9510 where all this chaos is, and there's 90.9370 82 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 90.9370 (pause 0.67) 91.6073 83 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 91.6073 three major high schools 92.9968 84 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 92.9968 (pause 0.17) 93.1647 85 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 93.1647 in that area. 93.9667 86 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 93.9667 (pause 0.28) 94.2463 87 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 94.2463 And a m- 94.6784 88 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 94.6784 (pause 0.14) 94.8137 89 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 94.8137 little mall. 95.3762 90 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 95.3762 (pause 0.95) 96.3274 91 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 96.3274 Um. 96.9429 92 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 96.9429 (pause 2.67) 99.6089 93 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 99.6089 And, 100.0659 94 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 100.0659 (pause 0.17) 100.2337 95 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 100.2337 I was teaching AP government to a bunch of kids at Honeyway, and I had to explain to them, like, 103.9243 96 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 103.9243 (pause 0.73) 104.6495 97 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 104.6495 Why is this happening? 106.2384 98 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 106.2384 (pause 0.50) 106.7420 99 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 106.7420 Like, what does it take for a kid in Baltimore to go to high school? 109.8661 100 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 109.8661 (pause 0.68) 110.5469 101 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 110.5469 Like, 110.6579 102 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 110.6579 (pause 0.12) 110.7803 103 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 110.7803 what are the struggles that they may face? And, for a lot of them, 113.3202 104 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 113.3202 (pause 0.74) 114.0569 105 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 114.0569 this was 114.5954 106 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 114.5954 (pause 0.55) 115.1497 107 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 115.1497 these are challenges that they don't even think about. 116.9217 108 ROC_int_01 117.3412 Mm-hm. 117.7521 109 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 117.7521 I was like, alright. 118.3489 110 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 118.4696 You wake up at seven AM, even though school starts at seven fifteen because 122.5510 111 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 122.5510 (pause 0.40) 122.9531 112 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 122.9531 your alarm didn't go off, because your power went out, because 125.6331 113 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 125.6331 (pause 0.64) 126.2766 114 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 126.2766 m- mom didn't have enough money to pay the bill. 128.0765 115 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 128.0765 (pause 0.45) 128.5276 116 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 128.5276 So, now you're late getting to school. 130.3742 117 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 130.3742 (pause 0.50) 130.8777 118 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 130.8777 And, now you have to catch buses, which may take you anywhere from forty-five minutes to an hour to get to school. 134.8226 119 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 134.8226 (pause 0.55) 135.3716 120 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 135.3716 Or, you're walking, but if you walk, you're going through dangerous neighborhoods. 138.3326 121 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 138.3326 (pause 0.99) 139.3258 122 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 139.3258 Um. 139.8395 123 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 139.8395 (pause 0.99) 140.8261 124 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 140.8261 That type of reality, that type of experience 142.7752 125 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 142.7752 (pause 0.52) 143.2974 126 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 143.2974 again, 143.6425 127 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 143.6425 (pause 0.11) 143.7544 128 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 143.7544 that gilded cage they were sheltered from. 145.2838 129 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 145.2838 (pause 0.72) 145.9993 130 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 145.9993 So, 146.5008 131 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 146.5008 (pause 3.03) 149.5306 132 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 149.5306 places like Pittsford, 150.5704 133 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 150.5704 (pause 0.12) 150.6916 134 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 150.6916 like Brighton, they work very hard to 152.6420 135 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 152.6420 (pause 2.23) 154.8697 136 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 154.8697 k- 154.9303 137 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 154.9303 (pause 0.17) 155.0981 138 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 155.0981 T- to 155.4572 139 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 155.4572 (pause 0.14) 155.5924 140 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 155.5924 by, like I said, to create that cage. 157.1358 141 ROC_int_01 157.4902 Mm-hm. 157.8772 142 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 157.8772 A- because they want to protect their children, like anybody does, but 160.5078 143 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 161.0347 it has its 161.8088 144 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 161.8088 (pause 0.98) 162.7915 145 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 162.7915 social impact as well. 163.7847 146 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 163.7847 (pause 1.02) 164.8065 147 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 164.8065 Whereas, I think 165.8976 148 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 165.8976 (pause 0.65) 166.5505 149 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 166.5505 places like Greece, like Gates, a little more honest about what the world is doing and like, what's going on, and they're a little more open to it. Because, one, they have to be 173.7418 150 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 173.7418 (pause 0.90) 174.6432 151 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 174.6432 and- and, 175.8602 152 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 175.8602 (pause 1.60) 177.4596 153 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 177.4596 two, 178.0705 154 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 178.0705 (pause 0.14) 178.2057 155 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 178.2057 I think they're just 178.8865 156 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 178.8865 (pause 0.29) 179.1744 157 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 179.1744 they don't care as much. [] 181.1468 158 ROC_int_01 180.5220 [Mm-hm.] 180.9277 159 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 181.7722 So 182.1832 160 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 182.1832 (pause 0.79) 182.9712 161 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 182.9712 That's, 183.4841 162 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 183.4841 (pause 0.29) 183.7732 163 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 183.7732 that was my upbringing. Realizing Pittsford's a lovely place to live 186.4283 164 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 186.4283 (pause 0.64) 187.0671 165 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 187.0671 but sometimes, it's difficult to 188.4546 166 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 188.4546 (pause 0.73) 189.1866 167 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 189.1866 bond with people. 190.1519 168 ROC_int_01 190.2578 Mm-hm. 190.6627 169 ROC_int_01 190.6627 (pause 0.39) 191.0478 170 ROC_int_01 191.0478 Yeah. 191.3685 171 ROC_int_01 191.3685 (pause 0.71) 192.0737 172 ROC_int_01 192.0737 Yeah, okay. 193.0109 173 ROC_int_01 193.0109 (pause 0.28) 193.2947 174 ROC_int_01 193.2947 And, 193.9449 175 ROC_int_01 193.9449 (pause 0.66) 194.6034 176 ROC_int_01 194.6034 I guess if you had to think of, um, 196.9908 177 ROC_int_01 196.9908 (pause 0.68) 197.6669 178 ROC_int_01 197.6669 any major changes that has 199.2663 179 ROC_int_01 199.2663 (pause 0.20) 199.4621 180 ROC_int_01 199.4621 that have happened across the course of your life in Rochester, would you feel like 203.1913 181 ROC_int_01 203.1913 (pause 0.24) 203.4307 182 ROC_int_01 203.4307 like are some major things that have 205.1825 183 ROC_int_01 205.1825 (pause 0.41) 205.5923 184 ROC_int_01 205.5923 changed? 206.3034 185 ROC_int_01 206.3034 (pause 0.56) 206.8606 186 ROC_int_01 206.8606 Um, well across the city. It doesn't matter where you locate the case. 209.6975 187 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 209.6975 Um. 210.1321 188 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 213.3029 What I've noticed 214.2075 189 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 214.2075 (pause 0.11) 214.3194 190 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 214.3194 is 214.7251 191 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 214.7251 (pause 0.85) 215.5784 192 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 215.5784 So I'll hit it from different perspectives, in- 217.3486 193 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 217.3486 (pause 0.13) 217.4792 194 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 217.4792 in coming back, what I've noticed in terms of- 219.2045 195 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 219.2045 (pause 0.11) 219.3164 196 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 219.3164 of 219.6987 197 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 219.6987 (pause 0.99) 220.6861 198 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 220.6861 government spending and the government handling 222.3881 199 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 222.3881 (pause 0.17) 222.5560 200 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 222.5560 um, especially in the counties. 223.8709 201 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 223.8709 (pause 1.21) 225.0786 202 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 225.0786 Two winters ago, 225.9290 203 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 225.9290 (pause 0.51) 226.4437 204 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 226.4437 we had one of the worst winters we've had in a long time. 228.4347 205 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 228.4347 (pause 1.83) 230.2672 206 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 230.2672 But, we also had the ice storm. 231.4631 207 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 231.4631 (pause 0.84) 232.3038 208 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 232.3038 and, when I was a kid in ninety-one, and we went through the ice storm, no one ever was concerned about running out of salt. 236.8361 209 ROC_int_01 237.4773 Mm. 237.8689 210 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 237.9575 You know, the idea that, 238.8575 211 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 238.8575 (pause 0.11) 238.9647 212 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 238.9647 that snow removal, was not 240.7164 213 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 240.7164 (pause 0.36) 241.0795 214 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 241.0795 an 241.2101 215 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 241.2101 (pause 0.11) 241.3192 216 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 241.3192 issue. We were, we were b- ha- prepared to handle that. 243.8278 217 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 243.8278 (pause 0.69) 244.5226 218 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 244.5226 Um. 245.1381 219 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 245.1381 (pause 2.07) 247.2073 220 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 247.2073 But, 247.5243 221 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 247.5243 (pause 0.58) 248.1072 222 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 248.1072 two years ago, and then this past year, which was a very light winter, 251.1406 223 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 251.1406 (pause 0.43) 251.5696 224 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 251.5696 there was still concern that we may not be able to move 253.7345 225 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 253.7345 (pause 0.20) 253.9350 226 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 253.9350 remove snow. 254.8956 227 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 254.8956 (pause 0.63) 255.5286 228 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 255.5286 I'm thinking w- the area that we're living in, how is our- our sp- what is going on with our government spending that 260.4340 229 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 260.4340 (pause 1.09) 261.5204 230 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 261.5204 something as crucial as snow removal 263.1937 231 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 263.1937 (pause 0.20) 263.3894 232 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 263.3894 for us to be functioning for a [good,] especially from say, 266.4099 233 ROC_int_01 264.8461 [Mm-hm.] 265.2647 234 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 266.5923 late January into early March. 268.6729 235 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 268.6729 (pause 1.20) 269.8705 236 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 269.8705 N- That shouldn't be a negotiation. 271.7472 237 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 271.7472 (pause 0.22) 271.9710 238 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 271.9710 That should be handled. 273.4884 239 ROC_int_01 273.5424 Mm-hm. 274.1113 240 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 274.2174 Um, 274.7443 241 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 274.7443 (pause 0.11) 274.8562 242 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 274.8562 and the fact that, that was, tells me that 276.8828 243 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 276.8828 (pause 0.52) 277.4051 244 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 277.4051 the handling of- of 279.0262 245 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 279.0262 (pause 0.78) 279.8037 246 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 279.8037 local politics has has gotten very dicey. 282.4942 247 ROC_int_01 282.6777 Mm-hm. 283.1516 248 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 283.1516 Um, 283.6827 249 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 284.0644 very combative and I think it's a microcosm of what's going on at the national level. Where 288.2563 250 ROC_int_01 288.4894 Mm-hm. 288.7226 251 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 289.0572 both sides would be able to compromise to say, alright 291.3047 252 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 291.3047 (pause 0.14) 291.4470 253 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 291.4470 you know what? I don't like you, you don't like me, but we need money for this 293.9978 254 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 293.9978 (pause 0.28) 294.2770 255 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 294.2770 to pay for it. 294.9858 256 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 294.9858 (pause 0.47) 295.4569 257 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 295.4569 Where now, it's 296.8557 258 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 296.8557 (pause 0.45) 297.3022 259 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 297.3022 well, I don't like you, you don't like me, so we're just gonna let this- 299.7330 260 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 299.7330 (pause 0.69) 300.4263 261 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 300.4263 don't touch that. 301.1375 262 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 301.1375 (pause 2.01) 303.1437 263 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 303.1437 We're just gonna let things 304.6946 264 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 304.6946 (pause 0.74) 305.4313 265 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 305.4313 go. 305.9163 266 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 305.9163 (pause 0.66) 306.5784 267 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 306.5784 Um. 307.2143 268 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 307.2143 (pause 1.72) 308.9342 269 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 308.9342 I think, from a, [from a social perspective,] 310.8274 270 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 310.8274 (pause 0.54) 311.3636 271 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 311.3636 [I've noticed] there's been a lot of. 313.4691 272 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 313.4691 (pause 0.48) 313.9494 273 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 313.9494 There's a l- a great more diversity, [especially on the westside, because] 316.7001 274 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 316.7001 (pause 0.63) 317.3343 275 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 317.3343 [you have] 318.3201 276 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 318.3201 (pause 0.70) 319.0154 277 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 319.0154 um. 319.5872 278 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 319.5872 (pause 1.46) 321.0473 279 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 321.0473 What you have is 322.2923 280 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 322.2923 (pause 0.65) 322.9451 281 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 322.9451 capable people of color 324.2320 282 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 324.2320 (pause 0.26) 324.4932 283 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 324.4932 who 324.9175 284 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 324.9175 (pause 0.12) 325.0387 285 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 325.0387 are tired of a city. 326.1112 286 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 326.1112 (pause 0.72) 326.8328 287 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 326.8328 Whatever their reason may be. 328.1431 288 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 328.1431 (pause 0.90) 329.0477 289 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 329.0477 Who have jobs that are giving them enough wealth to [move out.] 332.8125 290 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 332.8125 (pause 0.51) 333.3258 291 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 333.3258 W- and they're, but, 334.3563 292 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 334.3563 (pause 0.65) 335.0091 293 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 335.0091 because of property taxes, because of the way the 337.1542 294 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 337.1542 (pause 0.10) 337.2522 295 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 337.2522 eastside has set itself up, 338.2454 296 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 338.2454 (pause 0.42) 338.6697 297 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 338.6697 they're pushing north, and they're pushing west. 340.6697 298 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 340.6697 (pause 0.39) 341.0567 299 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 341.0567 So, they're moving into Gates, they're moving into Greece, they're moving into Irondequoit. 344.1473 300 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 344.1473 (pause 0.44) 344.5856 301 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 344.5856 Which, is gen- changing 345.7093 302 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 345.7093 (pause 0.49) 346.2025 303 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 346.2025 the demographics of these areas, which is then making them [start to ask] questions 349.8132 304 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 349.8132 (pause 0.49) 350.3011 305 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 350.3011 they didn't have to ask. 351.5416 306 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 351.5416 (pause 0.45) 351.9892 307 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 351.9892 The fact that Spencerport was trying to deal with urban [suburban] 354.6625 308 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 354.6625 (pause 0.49) 355.1521 309 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 355.1521 um, commuting, 356.1359 310 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 356.1359 (pause 0.72) 356.8608 311 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 356.8608 um, 357.4558 312 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 357.4558 (pause 0.70) 358.1571 313 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 358.1571 you know, last year. I was like, that's amazing, but 360.5684 314 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 360.5684 (pause 0.13) 360.6943 315 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 360.6943 the other part that 361.4637 316 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 361.4637 (pause 0.44) 361.9067 317 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 361.9067 that cracks me up about that is 363.6017 318 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 363.6017 (pause 2.02) 365.6265 319 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 365.6265 you're arguing over urban, suburban. And not because 368.1125 320 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 368.1125 (pause 0.24) 368.3550 321 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 368.3550 of the issue of 369.4913 322 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 369.4913 (pause 1.50) 370.9930 323 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 370.9930 the impact that it's gonna have on the diversity of your community. 373.3105 324 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 373.3105 (pause 0.48) 373.7861 325 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 373.7861 The- but I mean, that was they were arguing over. 375.3780 326 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 375.3780 (pause 0.48) 375.8602 327 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 375.8602 The only argum- 376.4478 328 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 376.4478 (pause 0.15) 376.6016 329 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 376.6016 The only justifiable point you have against [urban suburban in Spencerport] is, 379.9509 330 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 379.9509 (pause 0.97) 380.9220 331 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 380.9220 do you really wanna 381.9407 332 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 381.9407 (pause 1.12) 383.0606 333 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 383.0606 change the kids lives that much, that you have to pull that- 385.6669 334 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 385.6669 (pause 0.24) 385.9048 335 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 385.9048 Like, getting to Spencerport from the city is not an easy haul. 389.2242 336 ROC_int_01 389.2242 Mm-hm. 389.6349 337 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 389.6940 And, I'm like, 390.2302 338 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 390.2302 (pause 0.26) 390.4867 339 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 390.4867 you're gonna be telling kids, you need to get up at five 392.6130 340 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 392.6130 (pause 0.41) 393.0280 341 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 393.0280 maybe four-thirty in the morning to catch a bus to get to school on time. I said, 397.0604 342 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 397.0604 (pause 0.30) 397.3588 343 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 397.3588 in my mind, that's the problem. Because of the impact that it has on the student. 400.5796 344 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 400.5796 (pause 0.67) 401.2447 345 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 401.2447 But, the diversity of the impact it'll have on, on your kids, the social growth they'll [have] 405.2948 346 ROC_int_01 405.1579 [Mm-hm.] 405.5916 347 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 405.8310 is exponential, so who cares about that? But, people were, 408.5216 348 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 408.5216 (pause 1.54) 410.0606 349 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 410.0606 uh, the dark side of their prejudices were coming out. 412.7325 350 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 412.7325 (pause 0.71) 413.4401 351 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 413.4401 An- and 414.5825 352 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 414.5825 (pause 1.23) 415.8088 353 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 415.8088 that's a- another thing that I've noticed. 417.7859 354 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 417.7859 (pause 0.12) 417.9071 355 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 417.9071 From a social perspective, 419.1475 356 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 419.1475 (pause 1.30) 420.4519 357 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 420.4519 420.5846 358 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 420.5846 (pause 1.41) 421.9954 359 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 421.9954 and, maybe I'm just more aware of it because I'm older. 424.0523 360 ROC_int_01 424.3096 [Mm-hm.] 424.6640 361 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 429.0974 /RD-NAME-2/ can you turn down my [phone please?] 430.7278 362 ROC_int_01 430.3357 [That's nice.] 430.8401 363 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 432.2041 Um. 432.7487 364 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 432.7487 (pause 0.90) 433.6440 365 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 433.6440 but, 433.8165 366 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 433.8165 (pause 0.30) 434.1149 367 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 434.1149 prejudices 435.1105 368 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 435.1105 (pause 1.23) 436.3402 369 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 436.3402 that I'd been taught existed, 438.2846 370 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 438.2846 (pause 3.70) 441.9819 371 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 441.9819 as I've gotten older, I've learned to recognize them. 444.0616 372 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 444.0616 (pause 1.21) 445.2728 373 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 445.2728 Um. 445.9447 374 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 445.9447 (pause 2.20) 448.1451 375 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 448.1451 It always reminds me of a- of a 449.6699 376 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 449.6699 (pause 0.96) 450.6299 377 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 450.6299 I think it was Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle made a- some skit about, you ever see something so racist 454.3071 378 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 454.3071 (pause 0.47) 454.7819 379 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 454.7819 where you just stop and you go, wow. 456.2152 380 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 456.2152 (pause 0.77) 456.9805 381 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 456.9805 That was really racist. Like, you didn't get- m- you didn't get mad, you didn't get upset. You were just blown away by just 461.3608 382 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 461.3608 (pause 0.30) 461.6592 383 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 461.6592 how racist it was. 462.7923 384 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 462.7923 (pause 0.36) 463.1514 385 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 463.1514 And, I've had like 463.7296 386 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 463.7296 (pause 0.47) 464.2005 387 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 464.2005 reflecting upon my childhood and I'm like, I've had a couple of those experiences, but I just didn't realize 468.1326 388 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 468.1326 (pause 0.62) 468.7477 389 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 468.7477 what it was because it wasn't the- the stereotypical 471.7181 390 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 471.7181 (pause 0.63) 472.3465 391 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 472.3465 guy in a white sheet or the, the burning cross, or the lyn- 475.0931 392 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 475.0931 (pause 0.23) 475.3263 393 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 475.3263 like it wasn't that, [but it was] 476.9490 394 ROC_int_01 476.2426 [Mm-hm.] 476.8091 395 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 477.6928 um, 478.2878 396 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 478.2878 (pause 0.54) 478.8259 397 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 478.8259 a systematic undertone of how somebody treated somebody else or treated me, or said something to me. 482.8825 398 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 482.8825 (pause 0.86) 483.7452 399 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 483.7452 Um. 484.2814 400 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 484.2814 (pause 1.61) 485.8948 401 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 485.8948 That 486.3055 402 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 486.3055 (pause 0.53) 486.8320 403 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 486.8320 now that I'm older, I can recognize that. 488.8184 404 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 488.8184 (pause 0.52) 489.3348 405 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 489.3348 Which helps me 490.3747 406 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 490.3747 (pause 0.14) 490.5146 407 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 490.5146 gauge my response a little bit better. 491.9861 408 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 491.9861 (pause 0.66) 492.6502 409 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 492.6502 Turn it down. 493.1258 410 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 493.1258 (pause 1.30) 494.4267 411 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 494.4267 494.5013 412 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 494.5013 (pause 0.50) 495.0049 413 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 495.0049 Um. 495.4852 414 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 495.4852 (pause 0.83) 496.3187 415 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 496.3187 I think the 496.6731 416 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 496.6731 (pause 0.16) 496.8316 417 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 496.8316 m-. 496.9389 418 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 496.9389 (pause 1.02) 497.9554 419 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 497.9554 One example that really stood out to me was, 499.7460 420 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 499.7460 (pause 0.45) 500.1983 421 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 500.1983 think it was my 500.5340 422 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 500.5340 (pause 0.19) 500.7252 423 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 500.7252 ch- sophomore, junior year of college. 502.9369 424 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 502.9369 (pause 0.71) 503.6496 425 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 503.6496 And it was 504.1951 426 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 504.1951 (pause 0.15) 504.3490 427 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 504.3490 spring semester. 505.2711 428 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 505.2711 (pause 0.77) 506.0405 429 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 506.0405 506.1011 430 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 506.1011 (pause 0.16) 506.2643 431 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 506.2643 And 507.1533 432 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 507.1533 (pause 1.45) 508.6023 433 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 508.6023 I was running an errand for my mother on the way back to campus. So, I stop by her house in the morning, have breakfast, hang out, see how she's doing. 513.9352 434 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 513.9352 (pause 0.47) 514.4048 435 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 514.4048 And, she's like, can you 515.5891 436 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 515.5891 (pause 0.49) 516.0787 437 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 516.0787 uh, pay this bill for me 517.1419 438 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 517.1419 (pause 0.17) 517.3097 439 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 517.3097 at 517.5522 440 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 517.5522 (pause 0.26) 517.8087 441 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 517.8087 Macy's or Bon-ton, whatever. One of them. 519.4421 442 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 519.4421 (pause 0.50) 519.9408 443 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 519.9408 I was like, yeah, yeah. No problem mom, it's 521.2837 444 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 521.2837 (pause 0.13) 521.4142 445 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 521.4142 it's on the way back to campus. 522.6453 446 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 522.6453 (pause 1.30) 523.9462 447 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 523.9462 So, she gives me the money, she gives me her bill, 525.6681 448 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 525.6681 (pause 0.38) 526.0458 449 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 526.0458 and I run over there 527.1929 450 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 527.1929 (pause 0.13) 527.3188 451 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 527.3188 and I go to pay the bill. 528.2748 452 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 528.2748 (pause 1.03) 529.3012 453 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 529.3012 And, 530.0753 454 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 530.0753 (pause 1.08) 531.1513 455 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 531.1513 this woman, she's standing behind me and she's in a, 533.7252 456 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 533.7252 (pause 0.55) 534.2754 457 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 534.2754 you can tell it's a high end 535.3091 458 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 535.3091 (pause 0.36) 535.6682 459 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 535.6682 designer coat. 536.3966 460 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 536.3966 (pause 0.74) 537.1352 461 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 537.1352 Um. 537.7361 462 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 537.7361 (pause 1.95) 539.6843 463 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 539.6843 And I just go through the process, you know. M- 541.0606 464 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 541.0606 (pause 0.12) 541.1830 465 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 541.1830 I need to pay this bill for my mother. Thank you. 543.2417 466 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 543.2417 (pause 0.53) 543.7709 467 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 543.7709 And I'm so- and then this woman stops me eh- whe- 546.2705 468 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 546.2705 (pause 0.17) 546.4383 469 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 546.4383 So, I'm about to walk and she stops me, goes you are just so 549.1510 470 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 549.1510 (pause 0.50) 549.6546 471 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 549.6546 articulate. Where are you from? 551.9580 472 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 551.9580 (pause 1.23) 553.1913 473 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 553.1913 And at that- and I was a little bit older at that point when I realized, 555.7328 474 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 555.7328 (pause 1.43) 557.1640 475 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 557.1640 why are you stopping me? 558.5009 476 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 558.5009 (pause 0.36) 558.8600 477 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 558.8600 Why does my ability to speak matter to you? 561.5568 478 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 561.5568 (pause 0.56) 562.1203 479 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 562.1203 And, I realized because 563.9435 480 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 563.9435 (pause 1.66) 565.6082 481 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 565.6082 she had prejudice an- on thinking about African Americans 568.4814 482 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 568.4814 (pause 0.16) 568.6399 483 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 568.6399 speak. And I said, well oh I'm from Pittsford. 571.2913 484 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 571.2913 (pause 1.04) 572.3296 485 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 572.3296 She goes, oh. 573.3996 486 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 573.3996 (pause 0.69) 574.0850 487 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 574.0850 And the conversations stop because the moment I said Pittsford, she was like, oh. 577.2138 488 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 577.2138 (pause 1.34) 578.5556 489 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 578.5556 You're a good one. 580.8682 490 ROC_int_01 581.0914 [Mm-hm.] 581.5152 491 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 581.3975 [And-] And it was just like, 582.8556 492 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 584.1313 wow. You just. 584.9659 493 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 584.9659 (pause 0.76) 585.7306 494 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 585.7306 Like, 585.9451 495 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 585.9451 (pause 1.43) 587.3766 496 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 587.3766 Her- her- her misconception was just so heavy. I was like, you know what, I don't even have time. 591.2593 497 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 591.2593 (pause 0.59) 591.8457 498 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 591.8457 To- to deconstruct 593.4124 499 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 593.4124 (pause 0.79) 594.2004 500 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 594.2004 how off 595.2076 501 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 595.2076 (pause 0.60) 595.8033 502 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 595.8033 you were, cause you thought that you were complimenting me. And I get that. 598.2373 503 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 598.2373 (pause 0.69) 598.9227 504 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 598.9227 And, you're coming from a place of- of 600.5975 505 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 600.5975 (pause 1.40) 601.9991 506 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 601.9991 ignorance cause you don't know, 603.2907 507 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 603.2907 (pause 1.24) 604.5264 508 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 604.5264 and not stupidity, where you do know, but you 606.5641 509 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 606.5641 (pause 0.26) 606.8205 510 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 606.8205 choose to ignore. 607.9863 511 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 607.9863 (pause 0.61) 608.6006 512 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 608.6006 Um. 609.3653 513 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 609.3653 (pause 1.38) 610.7502 514 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 610.7502 And, I think those two differences 612.2750 515 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 612.2750 (pause 0.63) 612.9045 516 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 612.9045 matter greatly. I think there's a lot more stupidity out there nowadays. 615.8998 517 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 615.8998 (pause 0.49) 616.3865 518 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 616.3865 And, when I was a child, there was a lot more ignorance. 618.4988 519 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 618.4988 (pause 0.86) 619.3550 520 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 619.3550 Um, 619.8931 521 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 619.8931 (pause 1.09) 620.9831 522 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 620.9831 in terms of an economic status, 622.3773 523 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 622.3773 (pause 0.13) 622.5079 524 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 622.5079 uh, 623.0021 525 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 623.0021 (pause 0.68) 623.6794 526 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 623.6794 what you notice is certain towns 625.6984 527 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 625.6984 (pause 0.13) 625.8243 528 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 625.8243 are sort of 626.4118 529 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 626.4118 (pause 0.49) 626.9061 530 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 626.9061 economically flat. 627.9408 531 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 627.9408 (pause 0.87) 628.8062 532 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 628.8062 And, especially- and the city's 629.8297 533 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 629.8297 (pause 0.13) 629.9556 534 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 629.9556 struggling with that, and has been for a while. But they were able to keep it kind of quiet. 633.4984 535 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 633.4984 (pause 0.68) 634.1774 536 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 634.1774 And then, the past ten or fifteen years, it's- it's now to point where 638.0336 537 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 638.0336 (pause 0.29) 638.3274 538 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 638.3274 you can't anymore. 639.4376 539 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 639.4376 (pause 0.74) 640.1774 540 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 640.1774 Because, 641.0633 541 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 641.0633 (pause 2.35) 643.4134 542 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 643.4134 when I was a kid, 644.2653 543 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 644.2653 (pause 0.50) 644.7692 544 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 644.7692 Edison was com- was competitive, Wilson was competitive. 647.7080 545 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 647.7080 (pause 0.61) 648.3190 546 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 648.3190 Um. 648.9168 547 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 648.9168 (pause 0.40) 649.3178 548 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 649.3178 You didn't question their graduation rates. You were like, yeah, it's the city, 652.8590 549 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 652.8590 (pause 0.61) 653.4704 550 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 653.4704 but those are schools that can perform. 654.9826 551 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 654.9826 (pause 0.70) 655.6795 552 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 655.6795 So, everyone just said, yeah, there's issues going on in the city, but the kids are performing. 659.4098 553 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 659.4098 (pause 0.55) 659.9647 554 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 659.9647 The moment 660.8180 555 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 660.8180 (pause 1.01) 661.8287 556 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 661.8287 No Child Left Behind hits, and then Race to the Top hits, and Regents 665.6430 557 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 665.6430 (pause 0.31) 665.9554 558 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 665.9554 adjustments hits, and graduation rates start dropping, 668.9782 559 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 668.9782 (pause 0.37) 669.3451 560 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 669.3451 and then, all of a sudden, people are like, well what's going on with these crime rates? 672.6670 561 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 672.6670 (pause 0.56) 673.2265 562 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 673.2265 Um. 673.8980 563 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 673.8980 (pause 0.27) 674.1719 564 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 674.1719 You begin to realize 675.6734 565 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 675.6734 (pause 0.27) 675.9392 566 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 675.9392 well, wait a minute. 676.6060 567 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 676.6060 (pause 1.67) 678.2747 568 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 678.2747 The school's, the city school district's not performing. What's going on? 681.5542 569 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 681.5542 (pause 1.12) 682.6746 570 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 682.6746 And, that, 683.4114 571 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 683.4114 (pause 0.63) 684.0455 572 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 684.0455 one, 684.7363 573 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 684.7363 (pause 1.59) 686.3257 574 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 686.3257 becomes 687.1961 575 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 687.1961 (pause 0.22) 687.4199 576 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 687.4199 the headline for the local news on a regular basis. 690.0587 577 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 690.0587 (pause 0.44) 690.4970 578 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 690.4970 Two, 691.0379 579 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 691.0379 (pause 0.14) 691.1825 580 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 691.1825 becomes sort of a self fulfilling prophecy. 693.7339 581 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 693.7339 (pause 0.57) 694.3074 582 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 694.3074 Uh, for those outside of the city who don't experience the city, they're like, well, the city's just 698.4401 583 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 698.4401 (pause 0.64) 699.0824 584 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 699.0824 messed over anyways because look at the schools. 701.1201 585 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 701.1201 (pause 0.51) 701.6331 586 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 701.6331 Um. 702.1740 587 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 702.1740 (pause 1.05) 703.2249 588 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 703.2249 703.3674 589 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 703.3674 (pause 0.70) 704.0706 590 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 704.0706 Three, it puts them in a situation where 706.2855 591 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 706.2855 (pause 0.68) 706.9616 592 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 706.9616 um, 707.4786 593 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 707.4786 (pause 0.96) 708.4345 594 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 708.4345 now, they feel 709.9266 595 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 709.9266 (pause 0.18) 710.1038 596 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 710.1038 bad about themselves, 711.3940 597 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 711.3940 (pause 0.51) 711.9072 598 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 711.9072 and so, they don't think they can achieve. 713.9781 599 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 713.9781 (pause 0.54) 714.5138 600 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 714.5138 So, the city doesn't grow from that perspective. 716.3463 601 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 716.3463 (pause 0.52) 716.8674 602 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 716.8674 Uh. Four, 717.8559 603 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 717.8559 (pause 1.32) 719.1755 604 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 719.1755 then, the programs that you try to put into the city is 722.0867 605 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 722.0867 (pause 0.84) 722.9233 606 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 722.9233 you know. It's- it's, uh, now 724.4108 607 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 724.4108 (pause 0.17) 724.5833 608 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 724.5833 you're- it's bigger gamble than it's ever been. 726.0708 609 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 726.0708 (pause 0.63) 726.7049 610 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 726.7049 Cause now, who's the house that wins? Like, 728.7626 611 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 728.7626 (pause 0.57) 729.3332 612 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 729.3332 it's not like government officials are- 730.3684 613 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 730.3684 (pause 0.22) 730.5875 614 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 730.5875 are gambling on this, and they come out profiting on the back end. They're losing money too. 734.4668 615 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 734.4668 (pause 0.44) 734.9098 616 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 734.9098 And then, five, city policing 736.5933 617 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 736.5933 (pause 0.41) 737.0083 618 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 737.0083 compared to- to local policing. 739.0066 619 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 739.0066 (pause 0.41) 739.4169 620 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 739.4169 Um. 739.9321 621 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 739.9321 (pause 0.62) 740.5500 622 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 740.5500 When I was a kid, you 741.6738 623 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 741.6738 (pause 0.19) 741.8603 624 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 741.8603 you know, you had- 742.4991 625 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 742.4991 (pause 0.30) 742.7964 626 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 742.7964 before Duffy, you were talking about people- 744.5916 627 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 744.5916 (pause 0.50) 745.0905 628 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 745.0905 partners, walking the streets. 746.4195 629 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 746.4195 (pause 0.38) 746.7972 630 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 746.7972 Now it's partners in cars. Now it's individual cars. Now it's 749.6959 631 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 749.6959 (pause 0.59) 750.2852 632 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 750.2852 Well, we have these quadrants. Well, these quadrants turn into these sectors. And, 753.7963 633 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 753.7963 (pause 0.62) 754.4212 634 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 754.4212 well, are you actually getting to know the neighborhoods? No. An- 757.3152 635 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 757.3152 (pause 0.48) 757.7955 636 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 757.7955 And all of a sudden, it's this bust after this bust, after this bust. And like, 760.7031 637 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 760.7031 (pause 1.16) 761.8630 638 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 761.8630 the language and the way you- you handle people in the city 764.1758 639 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 764.1758 (pause 0.96) 765.1317 640 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 765.1317 is different 765.7985 641 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 765.7985 (pause 0.17) 765.9710 642 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 765.9710 than 766.6299 643 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 766.6299 (pause 0.32) 766.9530 644 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 766.9530 you used to. 767.8455 645 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 767.8455 (pause 1.25) 769.0940 646 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 769.0940 So, what caused that shift? 770.6048 647 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 770.6048 (pause 1.91) 772.5119 648 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 772.5119 Which then feeds into the surrounding suburbs because 775.9426 649 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 775.9426 (pause 3.23) 779.1691 650 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 779.1691 maybe it's just again because I'm older, there's a little bit, there's like 782.0508 651 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 782.0508 (pause 0.39) 782.4378 652 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 782.4378 civility. But, it's like aggressive civility. 784.3875 653 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 784.3875 (pause 1.49) 785.8738 654 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 785.8738 I think is the way to- 786.5126 655 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 786.5126 (pause 0.13) 786.6385 656 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 786.6385 that's a nice way of describing it. Where it's like, 788.9606 657 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 788.9606 (pause 0.35) 789.3109 658 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 789.3109 what are you doing here? 790.1835 659 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 790.1835 (pause 0.81) 790.9890 660 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 790.9890 Oh, okay, well just so you know, 792.5091 661 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 792.5091 (pause 1.40) 793.9126 662 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 793.9126 you know, you- you have to leave in the next five minutes. Oh, okay. 796.6964 663 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 796.6964 (pause 1.05) 797.7444 664 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 797.7444 I understand, but. 798.6210 665 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 798.6210 (pause 0.23) 798.8495 666 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 798.8495 800.3806 667 ROC_int_01 799.4837 [Mm-hm.] 800.1204 668 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 801.0597 And so, 801.7638 669 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 801.7638 (pause 1.96) 803.7280 670 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 803.7280 I can't tell 804.4694 671 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 804.4694 (pause 0.20) 804.6699 672 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 804.6699 so much 805.3134 673 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 805.3134 (pause 1.27) 806.5817 674 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 806.5817 in terms of social hem- is it that I'm noticing it more 809.2532 675 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 809.2532 (pause 0.94) 810.1951 676 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 810.1951 because I'm older? 811.1065 677 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 811.1065 (pause 1.36) 812.4695 678 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 812.4695 Or because 813.6912 679 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 813.6912 (pause 3.08) 816.7682 680 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 816.7682 we're in a day and age where 818.4568 681 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 818.4568 (pause 0.44) 818.8922 682 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 818.8922 emotions are heightened, things are being filmed 821.2050 683 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 821.2050 (pause 0.59) 821.7972 684 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 821.7972 and, people are 823.1914 685 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 823.1914 (pause 0.91) 824.1006 686 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 824.1006 okay with openly reacting 826.0540 687 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 826.0540 (pause 0.44) 826.4923 688 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 826.4923 and not being polite about it? 828.1728 689 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 828.1728 (pause 1.49) 829.6638 690 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 829.6638 And, everyone's sort of 831.3471 691 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 831.3471 (pause 0.25) 831.5989 692 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 831.5989 walking on ice now 832.6481 693 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 832.6481 (pause 0.39) 833.0351 694 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 833.0351 with how they handle all of that. 834.2521 695 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 834.2521 (pause 0.89) 835.1375 696 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 835.1375 So, 835.6294 697 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 835.6294 (pause 0.16) 835.7938 698 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 835.7938 that- that's what I see, like, what's going on in Rochester. 838.1719 699 ROC_int_01 838.3211 Mm, yeah. 838.6555 700 ROC_int_01 838.6555 (pause 0.50) 839.1511 701 ROC_int_01 839.1511 Okay. 839.5864 702 ROC_int_01 839.5864 (pause 0.46) 840.0463 703 ROC_int_01 840.0463 And, um, 841.0013 704 ROC_int_01 841.0013 (pause 0.48) 841.4860 705 ROC_int_01 841.4860 do you have any, I guess, favorite parts of Rochester, or favorite activities or things that you feel like really make the city, um. 849.1543 706 ROC_int_01 849.1543 (pause 0.69) 849.8480 707 ROC_int_01 849.8480 just something you look upon with pride. 851.6894 708 ROC_int_01 851.6894 (pause 0.14) 851.8247 709 ROC_int_01 851.8247 [Or.] 852.2297 710 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 852.0059 852.1924 711 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 852.5130 Um. 853.0446 712 ROC_int_01 853.0446 Yeah. 853.2917 713 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 856.7749 It's funny. 857.3624 714 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 857.3624 (pause 0.26) 857.6189 715 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 857.6189 Uh, 858.0712 716 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 858.0712 (pause 0.59) 858.6576 717 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 858.6576 the things that I- when th- when you started asking me the question, there was a couple of things that immediately come to mind. Like, 862.6024 718 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 862.6024 (pause 0.48) 863.0873 719 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 863.0873 hiking with my children at Mendon Ponds Park, or attending the Cornhill 866.7543 720 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 866.7543 (pause 0.44) 867.1956 721 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 867.1956 Arts Festival. 868.0396 722 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 868.0396 (pause 0.61) 868.6446 723 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 868.6446 Um. 869.3207 724 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 869.3207 (pause 0.76) 870.0761 725 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 870.0761 Or going to Canandaigua Lake. 871.5680 726 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 871.5680 (pause 0.26) 871.8268 727 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 871.8268 But then I realized, like 873.0275 728 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 873.0275 (pause 0.67) 873.6956 729 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 873.6956 most of the things I like doing in Rochester are not 876.2227 730 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 876.2227 (pause 0.65) 876.8717 731 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 876.8717 in the city of Rochester. 878.2228 732 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 878.2228 (pause 0.59) 878.8099 733 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 878.8099 Um. 879.3875 734 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 879.3875 (pause 0.41) 879.7996 735 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 879.7996 Which then makes me think of a, there was an editorial piece written a couple of years ago in the DNC 884.0670 736 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 884.0670 (pause 0.45) 884.5205 737 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 884.5205 called The Tale of Two Cities. 885.7105 738 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 885.7105 (pause 0.52) 886.2328 739 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 886.2328 Talking about how 887.3380 740 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 887.3380 (pause 0.53) 887.8719 741 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 887.8719 What's going on in the city and what's going on in the suburbs are two very different things, and, 890.8864 742 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 890.8864 (pause 0.40) 891.2823 743 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 891.2823 The way we've structured ourselves works very well 893.7455 744 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 893.7455 (pause 0.17) 893.9112 745 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 893.9112 to keep 894.5602 746 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 894.5602 (pause 0.70) 895.2599 747 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 895.2599 um, 895.7340 748 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 895.7340 (pause 0.84) 896.5787 749 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 896.5787 those two things separate. 898.3416 750 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 898.3416 (pause 0.70) 899.0459 751 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 899.0459 Um, 899.5936 752 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 899.5936 (pause 2.33) 901.9251 753 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 901.9251 so, 902.4498 754 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 902.4498 (pause 1.24) 903.6926 755 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 903.6926 you know, I enjoy going up to Hamlin Beach. 906.0053 756 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 906.0053 (pause 1.05) 907.0511 757 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 907.0511 I didn't start going to Charlotte until I met my wife in G- 909.3940 758 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 909.3940 (pause 0.16) 909.5551 759 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 909.5551 Who's from Greece. 910.4455 760 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 910.4455 (pause 0.72) 911.1614 761 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 911.1614 Um. 911.8729 762 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 911.8729 (pause 2.10) 913.9765 763 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 913.9765 I enjoy Mendon Ponds Park, Powder Mill Park, which are both in Pittsford. Um. 918.0881 764 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 918.0881 (pause 0.68) 918.7650 765 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 918.7650 Letchworth State Park. 920.0676 766 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 920.0676 (pause 0.53) 920.5933 767 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 920.5933 A lot of state parks, because, you know, I was a boy scout. Camping, hiking, that type of thing. 924.5656 768 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 924.5656 (pause 0.21) 924.7717 769 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 924.7717 924.8914 770 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 924.8914 (pause 0.50) 925.3910 771 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 925.3910 Um, 926.2820 772 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 926.2820 (pause 2.04) 928.3230 773 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 928.3230 I like 928.7971 774 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 928.7971 (pause 0.27) 929.0641 775 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 929.0641 S- the South Wedge. Hanging out in like, the Park Ave. area. There's a lot of cool shops and walking, and 933.9974 776 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 933.9974 (pause 0.40) 934.3937 777 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 934.3937 things like that. I like events around the U of R. 937.2843 778 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 937.2843 (pause 0.36) 937.6479 779 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 937.6479 Or, at the U of R. 938.6467 780 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 938.6467 (pause 0.64) 939.2865 781 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 939.2865 Um. 939.9079 782 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 939.9079 (pause 1.76) 941.6641 783 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 941.6641 But in terms of, do I actually like, go into the city, 944.0760 784 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 944.0760 (pause 0.76) 944.8401 785 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 944.8401 I think I can count the number of times I've gone into the city to go see a show or an event. 948.4451 786 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 948.4451 (pause 0.69) 949.1355 787 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 949.1355 Um. 949.9042 788 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 949.9042 (pause 1.64) 951.5407 789 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 951.5407 And it's- 951.9687 790 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 951.9687 (pause 0.32) 952.2920 791 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 952.2920 It's just one of those things where 953.9030 792 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 953.9030 (pause 1.67) 955.5739 793 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 955.5739 like, I do cherish it and it makes 957.1468 794 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 957.1468 (pause 0.24) 957.3908 795 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 957.3908 Rochester a great place to live, 958.6632 796 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 958.6632 (pause 0.60) 959.2662 797 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 959.2662 but at the same time, you just 960.4906 798 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 960.4906 (pause 1.06) 961.5539 799 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 961.5539 it- 961.7196 800 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 961.7196 (pause 0.64) 962.3618 801 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 962.3618 I'm- I've very much become one of those individuals who can just pop in, do what I need to do and just pop out. 966.5668 802 ROC_int_01 966.5668 Mm-hm. 967.1575 803 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 967.2970 Um. 968.0289 804 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 968.0289 (pause 1.51) 969.5340 805 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 969.5340 Which is actually very in- indicative of 971.6053 806 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 971.6053 (pause 0.35) 971.9506 807 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 971.9506 people in Baltimore. 972.9034 808 ROC_int_01 973.4188 Mm. 973.8744 809 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 973.9297 Um. What a lot of people don't realize is 975.9641 810 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 975.9641 (pause 0.67) 976.6362 811 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 976.6362 one of Baltimore's major landmarks is Camden Yards, the Orioles, where they play. 979.8063 812 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 979.8063 (pause 1.08) 980.8825 813 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 980.8825 You can get on a train, 982.5257 814 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 982.5257 (pause 1.74) 984.2702 815 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 984.2702 um, 984.9330 816 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 984.9330 (pause 1.03) 985.9665 817 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 985.9665 outside the city limits. You're pretty much 987.6742 818 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 987.6742 (pause 0.39) 988.0608 819 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 988.0608 almost, 988.5349 820 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 988.5349 (pause 0.52) 989.0504 821 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 989.0504 you're about thirty minutes from the 990.3254 822 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 990.3254 (pause 0.16) 990.4865 823 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 990.4865 the Pennsylvania state line. 991.6096 824 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 991.6096 (pause 0.67) 992.2816 825 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 992.2816 If that. 992.7834 826 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 992.7834 (pause 0.49) 993.2691 827 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 993.2691 You can get on a train there. 994.5579 828 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 994.5579 (pause 0.21) 994.7696 829 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 994.7696 Where there's a Wegmans 995.7777 830 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 995.7777 (pause 1.09) 996.8686 831 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 996.8686 Take that train in for thirty minutes, be dropped off right in front of the stadium 1000.3831 832 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1000.3831 (pause 0.87) 1001.2557 833 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1001.2557 do whatever you want around the stadium. Go to the- the pubs, go and watch the game, whatever. 1005.1957 834 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1005.1957 (pause 0.84) 1006.0313 835 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1006.0313 And then hop 1006.6665 836 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1006.6665 (pause 0.11) 1006.7724 837 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1006.7724 back on that train, and head back out. 1008.7470 838 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1008.7470 (pause 0.49) 1009.2395 839 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1009.2395 You don't have to drive, you don't have to park, you don't have to vest 1011.5916 840 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1011.5916 (pause 0.54) 1012.1280 841 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1012.1280 any extra effort into the city than you were willing to. 1014.4939 842 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1014.4939 (pause 0.98) 1015.4697 843 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1015.4697 Um, 1015.9898 844 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1015.9898 (pause 0.43) 1016.4225 845 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1016.4225 which allows you to enjoy all 1017.7021 846 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1017.7021 (pause 0.28) 1017.9856 847 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1017.9856 parts of the city 1018.8506 848 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1018.8506 (pause 0.17) 1019.0209 849 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1019.0209 while ignoring 1020.2637 850 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1020.2637 (pause 1.09) 1021.3500 851 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1021.3500 other issues of it. 1022.3028 852 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1022.3028 (pause 0.77) 1023.0715 853 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1023.0715 Um. 1023.6100 854 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1023.6100 (pause 0.86) 1024.4686 855 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1024.4686 1024.5744 856 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1024.5744 (pause 0.10) 1024.6757 857 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1024.6757 And Rochester sort of does the same thing, but we do it with cars. You want to go to a Redwings game? 1028.5099 858 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1028.5099 (pause 0.56) 1029.0669 859 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1029.0669 You can hop off the expressway and literally drop right next to the stadium without going through the city. 1033.8420 860 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1033.8420 (pause 0.43) 1034.2700 861 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1034.2700 Especially if you're coming from the westside versus the eastside. 1036.5245 862 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1036.5245 (pause 0.62) 1037.1459 863 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1037.1459 Um. 1037.8548 864 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1037.8548 (pause 1.17) 1039.0263 865 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1039.0263 You wanna go to the major library 1040.6189 866 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1040.6189 (pause 0.21) 1040.8307 867 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1040.8307 right off of the expressway, but you don't have to go into the heart of the city. 1043.8087 868 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1043.8087 (pause 0.61) 1044.4175 869 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1044.4175 Um. 1044.9883 870 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1044.9883 (pause 1.49) 1046.4821 871 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1046.4821 I didn't have to know where Liberty Pool Way was 1048.6961 872 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1048.6961 (pause 1.61) 1050.3025 873 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1050.3025 until college. 1051.2138 874 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1051.2138 (pause 1.47) 1052.6800 875 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1052.6800 You know. 1053.2600 876 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1053.2600 (pause 0.95) 1054.2082 877 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1054.2082 And the- the hip 1054.9630 878 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1054.9630 (pause 0.33) 1055.2898 879 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1055.2898 co- cool thing if you were, you know, a, uh, 1058.0285 880 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1058.0285 (pause 0.92) 1058.9463 881 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1058.9463 bohemian student, if you will. 1060.4376 882 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1060.4376 (pause 0.69) 1061.1305 883 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1061.1305 wants to go to Spot Cafe. 1062.4061 884 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1062.4061 (pause 0.46) 1062.8704 885 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1062.8704 So, if you're [if you're (laughing) You know. Oh. 1065.1626 886 ROC_int_01 1063.3422 [] 1064.3851 887 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1065.5677 You're- you're- you're trapped in Pittsford, but you got a friend with a car. Well, I like to hang out at Spot Cafe on a Friday night. 1070.3389 888 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1070.3389 (pause 0.28) 1070.6150 889 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1070.6150 Well, so does everybody. That place is teeming 1072.6750 890 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1072.6750 (pause 0.39) 1073.0662 891 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1073.0662 with teenagers because 1074.5898 892 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1074.5898 (pause 0.92) 1075.5147 893 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1075.5147 they're trying to be cool and get into the city. But not really into the city because 1080.4953 894 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1080.4953 (pause 0.63) 1081.1237 895 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1081.1237 you know, 1081.5334 896 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1081.5334 (pause 0.75) 1082.2882 897 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1082.2882 stuff can get scary (laughing) [] 1084.9901 898 ROC_int_01 1084.4930 [Mm-hm.] 1084.9901 899 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1085.5195 Um. 1085.9890 900 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1085.9890 (pause 1.54) 1087.5242 901 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1087.5242 But yeah. 1087.8694 902 ROC_int_01 1088.3251 Yeah. 1088.7531 903 ROC_int_01 1088.7531 (pause 0.14) 1088.8912 904 ROC_int_01 1088.8912 It's so funny you mentioned Spot because I went to School of the Arts. 1092.3434 905 ROC_int_01 1092.3434 (pause 0.49) 1092.8291 906 ROC_int_01 1092.8291 And that was just one of those 1094.8452 907 ROC_int_01 1094.8452 (pause 0.17) 1095.0155 908 ROC_int_01 1095.0155 places where it just brought a lot of different people [together.] 1098.3294 909 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1098.1145 [Mm-hm.] 1098.6806 910 ROC_int_01 1098.8173 You know, it's like the hipster kind [of-] 1101.0400 911 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1100.7777 [Yup.] But it's- it's if you look at where it is, 1103.1152 912 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1103.3546 you're not too far from an expressway, so you can 1105.2490 913 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1105.2490 (pause 0.42) 1105.6724 914 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1105.6724 hop into the city, park, 1107.2282 915 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1107.2282 (pause 0.41) 1107.6333 916 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1107.6333 be cool, 1108.4342 917 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1108.4342 (pause 0.72) 1109.1501 918 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1109.1501 and then hop out. 1109.9648 919 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1109.9648 (pause 0.99) 1110.9544 920 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1110.9544 And you're like, oh, I'm meeting all these different pe- kids from all these different places, but are you really? 1114.9219 921 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1114.9219 (pause 0.41) 1115.3340 922 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1115.3340 You're around them, [but you're not really meeting] them. 1117.2453 923 ROC_int_01 1117.5331 Mm-hm. 1118.0118 924 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1118.0118 Hi Sugar Plum. You want a hug? 1119.3052 925 ROC_int_01 1120.1844 1120.6585 926 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1121.1958 You just wanna play. 1121.9157 927 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1121.9157 (pause 2.03) 1123.9471 928 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1123.9471 Guess you wanna play. 1124.6330 929 ROC_int_01 1124.7480 1125.3050 930 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1128.9968 But, yeah. 1129.3978 931 ROC_int_01 1129.9994 Yeah. 1130.3171 932 ROC_int_01 1130.3171 (pause 0.25) 1130.5689 933 ROC_int_01 1130.5689 Okay, [cool] 1131.5161 934 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1131.0498 [] 1132.1596 935 ROC_int_01 1132.1596 Um. 1132.6865 936 ROC_int_01 1132.6865 (pause 0.12) 1132.8112 937 ROC_int_01 1132.8112 1132.9138 938 ROC_int_01 1132.9138 (pause 0.23) 1133.1423 939 ROC_int_01 1133.1423 Uh. So, my last 1134.5458 940 ROC_int_01 1134.5458 (pause 0.14) 1134.6904 941 ROC_int_01 1134.6904 couple questions have more so to do with, uh, language stuff. 1138.1298 942 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1138.0290 Okay. 1138.3793 943 ROC_int_01 1138.4353 So, 1138.9098 944 ROC_int_01 1138.9098 (pause 0.45) 1139.3574 945 ROC_int_01 1139.3574 uh, 1139.9636 946 ROC_int_01 1139.9636 (pause 0.31) 1140.2713 947 ROC_int_01 1140.2713 have you ever noticed, or if you've left outside of Rochester, has anyone else pointed out that there's a certain accent? Or 1148.0005 948 ROC_int_01 1148.0005 (pause 0.40) 1148.3966 949 ROC_int_01 1148.3966 a type of way that 1149.7768 950 ROC_int_01 1149.7768 (pause 0.14) 1149.9214 951 ROC_int_01 1149.9214 you know, they feel like Rochesterians speak? 1152.0710 952 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1152.2855 So, 1152.7611 953 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1152.7611 (pause 0.45) 1153.2134 954 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1153.2134 I've been told, 1153.9405 955 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1153.9405 (pause 0.12) 1154.0617 956 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1154.0617 one, I don't have the Rochester accent. 1155.7642 957 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1155.7642 (pause 0.53) 1156.2923 958 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1156.2923 1156.3856 959 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1156.3856 (pause 0.28) 1156.6654 960 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1156.6654 And two, an- and 1158.1672 961 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1158.1672 (pause 0.26) 1158.4283 962 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1158.4283 it was been told by friends of mine from high school 1160.3448 963 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1160.3448 (pause 0.58) 1160.9284 964 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1160.9284 when we were in college. Because at that point, a couple of them gone to New York [City], 1163.9798 965 ROC_int_01 1164.1104 [Mm-hm.] 1164.5627 966 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1164.3918 [Midwest], and then we came back around the holidays. 1166.4652 967 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1167.5698 [And,] 1168.1340 968 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1168.1340 (pause 0.61) 1168.7402 969 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1168.7402 You know, I don't say the hard O, 1170.9398 970 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1170.9398 (pause 0.51) 1171.4527 971 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1171.4527 where it's more of like, an A. 1172.5439 972 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1172.5439 (pause 0.80) 1173.3412 973 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1173.3412 Um. 1174.0809 974 ROC_int_01 1174.6771 In like what- oh sorry, what kind of words do you mean? 1176.7701 975 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1176.6915 So, y- you- so, the classic way to understand if someone has the Rochester accent is, how do they say Rochester? 1181.6933 976 ROC_int_01 1181.6933 Mm-hm. 1182.0648 977 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1183.5897 I 1184.2006 978 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1184.2006 (pause 0.16) 1184.3591 979 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1184.3591 don't say ra. 1185.4922 980 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1185.4922 (pause 0.76) 1186.2515 981 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1186.2515 And, so I don't say it like R A W chester, I say Rochester. 1190.1410 982 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1190.1410 (pause 0.13) 1190.2679 983 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1190.2679 It's almost like, 1191.3813 984 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1191.3813 (pause 0.86) 1192.2389 985 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1192.2389 R-O-U-G-H 1193.9668 986 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1193.9668 (pause 1.08) 1195.0439 987 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1195.0439 chester. 1195.5242 988 ROC_int_01 1195.5242 Mm-hm. 1196.0092 989 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1196.2050 Um. 1196.9945 990 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1196.9945 (pause 1.20) 1198.1949 991 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1198.1949 And I don't. 1198.5959 992 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1198.5959 (pause 0.13) 1198.7265 993 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1198.7265 And, I say Rochester. And I to the, chester, faster than people who are from Rochester, usually say Raw-chester 1204.1362 994 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1204.1362 (pause 0.63) 1204.7615 995 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1204.7615 So, emphasis on the first syllable and less upon the second syllable. I jump to the, 1208.2302 996 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1208.2302 (pause 0.16) 1208.3922 997 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1208.3922 almost to the second syllable with the way I say it. 1210.1128 998 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1210.1128 (pause 0.82) 1210.9324 999 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1210.9324 Um. 1211.6271 1000 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1211.6271 (pause 1.17) 1212.7929 1001 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1212.7929 And, so I'm aware that I- I have that accent. 1215.1430 1002 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1215.1430 (pause 0.19) 1215.3295 1003 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1215.3295 Um. 1216.1001 1004 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1216.1001 (pause 0.33) 1216.4299 1005 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1216.4299 I know that the Rochester accent is very strongly influenced by the Midwestern accents. Especially from 1221.1569 1006 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1221.1569 (pause 0.55) 1221.7072 1007 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1221.7072 Northern P-A and Ohio. I know a lot of that has a lot of influence. 1225.6983 1008 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1225.6983 (pause 0.60) 1226.2986 1009 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1226.2986 Um. 1226.9468 1010 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1226.9468 (pause 0.85) 1227.7940 1011 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1227.7940 When I moved to Baltimore, 1229.6653 1012 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1229.6653 (pause 1.21) 1230.8776 1013 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1230.8776 it was very interesting. Because I grew up in Pittsford, went to the U of R 1233.7676 1014 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1233.7676 (pause 0.61) 1234.3738 1015 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1234.3738 and then, all of a sudden, I'm teaching in an urban district. 1236.9512 1016 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1236.9512 (pause 0.49) 1237.4411 1017 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1237.4411 We okay down here? 1238.2428 1018 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1238.2428 (pause 0.69) 1238.9330 1019 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1238.9330 Okay. 1239.3200 1020 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1239.3200 (pause 1.53) 1240.8461 1021 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1240.8461 And, 1241.7134 1022 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1241.7134 (pause 1.73) 1243.4421 1023 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1243.4421 for the first time in my life, students ask me, what are you? 1245.8156 1024 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1245.8156 (pause 1.03) 1246.8461 1025 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1246.8461 Like, what do you mean, what am I? 1248.0864 1026 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1248.0864 (pause 0.60) 1248.6867 1027 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1248.6867 Because for them, I wasn't black. 1250.8690 1028 ROC_int_01 1251.4612 [Hm.] 1251.9788 1029 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1251.6850 [] I didn't sound quote unquote 1253.0372 1030 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1253.2657 black. 1253.8672