Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 0.3837 But i- in- in terms of 1.9271 2 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 1.9271 (pause 1.27) 3.2001 3 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 3.2001 when I got to Baltimore. I signed up for a gym and w- 5.8708 4 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 5.8708 (pause 0.73) 6.5969 5 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 6.5969 the- the woman signing me up 8.0893 6 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 8.0893 (pause 0.55) 8.6441 7 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 8.6441 though I was British. She goes, are you from England? 10.7192 8 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 10.7192 (pause 1.12) 11.8419 9 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 11.8419 And I was like, no. 13.3853 10 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 13.3853 (pause 1.08) 14.4673 11 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 14.4673 Um. 15.0531 12 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 15.0531 (pause 0.45) 15.5008 13 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 15.5008 From upstate New York. Oh what's your borough? 17.6494 14 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 17.6494 (pause 0.90) 18.5493 15 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 18.5493 It's a whole other [conversation, but} 20.1953 16 ROC_int_01 19.6731 [Right. ] 20.7747 17 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 21.3517 None of them. 23.3754 18 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 23.3754 (pause 0.30) 23.6785 19 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 23.6785 But, you just said New York. I said, 24.8654 20 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 24.8654 (pause 0.30) 25.1685 21 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 25.1685 yup. 25.6628 22 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 25.6628 (pause 0.16) 25.8213 23 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 25.8213 I did. 26.4182 24 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 26.4182 (pause 0.76) 27.1736 25 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 27.1736 Um. 27.8015 26 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 27.8015 (pause 1.45) 29.2470 27 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 29.2470 And then, 30.1050 28 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 30.1050 (pause 2.46) 32.5611 29 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 32.5611 coming back to here. 33.7455 30 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 33.7455 (pause 0.87) 34.6128 31 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 34.6128 When I worked in the city, I realized that those students didn't think I was black either. So they were like, what are you mixed with? 40.4978 32 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 40.4978 (pause 0.46) 40.9548 33 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 40.9548 Can I touch your hair? 42.1193 34 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 42.1193 (pause 0.53) 42.6509 35 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 42.6509 You've got that good hair. 44.0591 36 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 44.0591 (pause 1.48) 45.5419 37 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 45.5419 Which, 46.0035 38 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 46.0035 (pause 0.21) 46.2180 39 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 46.2180 a- n- 46.8009 40 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 46.8009 (pause 1.15) 47.9468 41 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 47.9468 was very frustrating. And then I 49.3130 42 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 49.3130 (pause 0.15) 49.4622 43 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 49.4622 m- had them all read them all read the Willie Lynch Letter. And be like, 51.5303 44 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 51.5303 (pause 0.19) 51.7168 45 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 51.7168 this is why you think this. Like, let's stop [] 54.7577 46 ROC_int_01 54.3707 [Mm-hm.] 54.7577 47 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 55.3489 Um. 55.9991 48 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 55.9991 (pause 1.98) 57.9823 49 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 57.9823 But it's- it's- 58.8822 50 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 58.8822 (pause 1.72) 60.6028 51 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 60.6028 P- I know 61.4002 52 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 61.4002 (pause 0.14) 61.5447 53 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 61.5447 my pronunciation and- and my handling of the English language comes from a different, couple of different places. 65.5988 54 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 65.5988 (pause 0.50) 66.1012 55 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 66.1012 One, my great aunt, who raised my mother, was an eighth grade English teacher. 69.6982 56 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 69.6982 (pause 0.62) 70.3219 57 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 70.3219 And, so she drove 71.6788 58 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 71.6788 (pause 0.73) 72.4109 59 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 72.4109 pronunciation, language, speech, 74.4068 60 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 74.4068 (pause 0.41) 74.8171 61 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 74.8171 spelling, 75.5026 62 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 75.5026 (pause 0.29) 75.7964 63 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 75.7964 reading, into my mother, and my mother did the same with me. 78.2677 64 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 78.2677 (pause 0.41) 78.6815 65 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 78.6815 Even to this day, if - if I'm mumbling, or 81.4700 66 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 81.4700 (pause 0.68) 82.1461 67 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 82.1461 uh, if I'm speaking too loudly. If my presentation isn't 85.2330 68 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 85.2330 (pause 0.93) 86.1645 69 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 86.1645 what she deems appropriate, 87.5260 70 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 87.5260 (pause 0.35) 87.8804 71 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 87.8804 p- she has no hesitation in correcting me. 89.9601 72 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 89.9601 (pause 0.74) 90.6973 73 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 90.6973 Um. 91.4084 74 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 91.4084 (pause 0.66) 92.0671 75 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 92.0671 92.1976 76 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 92.1976 (pause 1.66) 93.8623 77 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 93.8623 I know that part of the influence on my language is, when I was a kid, I read a lot of comic books. 97.5222 78 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 97.5222 (pause 1.01) 98.5341 79 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 98.5341 And, 99.2102 80 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 99.2102 (pause 0.57) 99.7826 81 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 99.7826 comic books has an impact on language in that, one, 102.6922 82 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 102.6922 (pause 0.88) 103.5735 83 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 103.5735 it says it's okay 104.7131 84 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 104.7131 (pause 0.13) 104.8437 85 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 104.8437 to put image with- 105.8924 86 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 105.8924 (pause 0.16) 106.0556 87 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 106.0556 with words 106.7877 88 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 106.7877 (pause 0.63) 107.4137 89 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 107.4137 as you get older. 108.5330 90 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 108.5330 (pause 0.12) 108.6542 91 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 108.6542 But, you have to pay attention to the inflection. 110.4960 92 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 110.4960 (pause 0.62) 111.1162 93 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 111.1162 For example, it's very common to m- 113.0371 94 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 113.0371 (pause 0.65) 113.6899 95 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 113.6899 make words bolded. 114.9815 96 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 114.9815 (pause 0.49) 115.4711 97 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 115.4711 Well, if it's bolded, 116.3231 98 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 116.3231 (pause 0.16) 116.4863 99 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 116.4863 that's their way of putting an exclamation point on the word. 118.5287 100 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 118.5287 (pause 0.49) 119.0229 101 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 119.0229 So, you practice 120.0534 102 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 120.0534 (pause 0.54) 120.5978 103 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 120.5978 pronunciation to- to catch on to, this is the word I have to pay attention to. 124.2442 104 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 124.2442 (pause 0.58) 124.8224 105 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 124.8224 Which changes how you read 126.0721 106 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 126.0721 (pause 0.20) 126.2679 107 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 126.2679 the line. 126.7979 108 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 126.7979 (pause 0.68) 127.4786 109 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 127.4786 It's not just 128.1862 110 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 128.1862 (pause 0.33) 128.5127 111 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 128.5127 flat script, but 129.5059 112 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 129.5059 (pause 0.11) 129.6131 113 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 129.6131 like, oh, I have to change how I'm saying this because they're arguing. 132.5840 114 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 132.5840 (pause 0.41) 132.9990 115 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 132.9990 And I have to internalize and what would this character sound like if he were having that argument? 136.8421 116 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 136.8421 (pause 0.68) 137.5229 117 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 137.5229 It's a little bit different from a book because you have to 140.1540 118 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 140.1540 (pause 0.72) 140.8746 119 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 140.8746 infer 141.7485 120 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 141.7485 (pause 0.14) 141.8930 121 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 141.8930 that's what's going on based upon 143.3945 122 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 143.3945 (pause 0.52) 143.9121 123 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 143.9121 the imagery the author has given you, and then you read it as you see it. 147.0813 124 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 147.0813 (pause 0.49) 147.5756 125 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 147.5756 In a comic book, they don't 148.5293 126 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 148.5293 (pause 0.33) 148.8557 127 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 148.8557 give you that much 149.6158 128 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 149.6158 (pause 0.35) 149.9655 129 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 149.9655 freedom. 150.2872 130 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 150.2872 (pause 1.32) 151.6057 131 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 151.6057 Also, you're forced to address 153.6574 132 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 153.6574 (pause 0.61) 154.2682 133 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 154.2682 words may be a little more challenging in pronuncia- pronun- pronunciation. 157.4941 134 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 157.4941 (pause 0.76) 158.2542 135 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 158.2542 You know, the fact that 159.0655 136 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 159.0655 (pause 0.82) 159.8862 137 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 159.8862 at seven years old, I'm saying adamantium. 161.7840 138 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 161.7840 (pause 1.08) 162.8666 139 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 162.8666 You know, vibranium. These aren't real things, but, 165.3827 140 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 165.3827 (pause 0.46) 165.8458 141 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 165.8458 there's a lot of syllables. That's a lot to chew for a seven year old. 168.6480 142 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 168.6480 (pause 0.61) 169.2577 143 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 169.2577 Um, 169.6492 144 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 169.6492 (pause 0.11) 169.7591 145 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 169.7591 because, 170.7272 146 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 170.7272 (pause 0.66) 171.3844 147 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 171.3844 you read about Marvel comic books. And they have these 173.8921 148 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 173.8921 (pause 0.94) 174.8278 149 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 174.8278 fake alloys. And you have to know what an alloy is, and so, now you're reading and you have to 179.3179 150 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 179.3179 (pause 0.51) 179.8319 151 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 179.8319 dissect and understand. 181.2580 152 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 181.2580 (pause 0.69) 181.9433 153 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 181.9433 Um. 182.6154 154 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 182.6154 (pause 1.15) 183.7620 155 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 183.7620 Even DC with Superman, his kryptonite. 185.8699 156 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 185.8699 (pause 0.18) 186.0544 157 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 186.0544 Well, kryptonite's real, so now you're learning about a real e- element. But it's not 189.2392 158 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 189.2392 (pause 0.65) 189.8850 159 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 189.8850 a- a common pronunciation that works well for like phonics readers. 192.8768 160 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 192.8768 (pause 0.56) 193.4341 161 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 193.4341 You know, there's a Y there, but I'm pronouncing it like an I, like what's going on? 196.8210 162 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 196.8210 (pause 0.87) 197.6952 163 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 197.6952 Um. 198.4815 164 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 198.4815 (pause 2.78) 201.2659 165 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 201.2659 Other influence, I think, upon my language are 203.7567 166 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 203.7567 (pause 1.50) 205.2540 167 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 205.2540 I didn't like 205.9612 168 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 205.9612 (pause 0.22) 206.1765 169 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 206.1765 reading regular books. Especially I remember in fourth grade, 208.6892 170 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 208.6892 (pause 0.59) 209.2778 171 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 209.2778 um, 209.8884 172 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 209.8884 (pause 0.97) 210.8549 173 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 210.8549 I think one Christmas, I had to do like twenty book reports to catch up on all the book reports I didn't do. 214.8184 174 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 214.8184 (pause 1.00) 215.8200 175 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 215.8200 And, 216.7030 176 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 216.7030 (pause 1.84) 218.5473 177 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 218.5473 it was just one of those things where, 220.0014 178 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 220.0014 (pause 0.63) 220.6295 179 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 220.6295 m- 220.7438 180 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 220.7438 (pause 0.43) 221.1743 181 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 221.1743 when that was over, then my parents said, alright, you're gonna have to start doing book reports for us. 224.9469 182 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 224.9469 (pause 0.91) 225.8555 183 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 225.8555 And so. 226.8527 184 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 226.8527 (pause 0.65) 227.4985 185 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 227.4985 Turn it down. 228.2057 186 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 228.2057 (pause 1.73) 229.9365 187 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 229.9365 Um, 230.5867 188 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 230.5867 (pause 0.40) 230.9864 189 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 230.9864 so then I had to start doing 232.8132 190 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 232.8132 (pause 0.86) 233.6742 191 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 233.6742 uh, 234.3639 192 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 234.3639 (pause 0.40) 234.7592 193 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 234.7592 so, I started reading 235.7652 194 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 235.7652 (pause 1.99) 237.7589 195 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 237.7589 a lot more stuff 239.0021 196 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 239.0021 (pause 0.62) 239.6171 197 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 239.6171 that 240.0058 198 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 240.0058 (pause 2.71) 242.7162 199 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 242.7162 for me to be entertained by it, 244.3993 200 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 244.3993 (pause 0.23) 244.6321 201 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 244.6321 I had to read 245.5479 202 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 245.5479 (pause 0.69) 246.2349 203 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 246.2349 out loud to myself. So then, I'm thinking about how I sounded, 249.0551 204 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 249.0551 (pause 0.71) 249.7667 205 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 249.7667 when I said it. 250.6102 206 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 250.6102 (pause 1.05) 251.6557 207 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 251.6557 And that changed, um, 253.2373 208 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 253.2373 (pause 0.17) 253.4043 209 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 253.4043 a bit of my language. 254.4058 210 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 254.4058 (pause 0.48) 254.8890 211 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 254.8890 Um. 255.4557 212 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 255.4557 (pause 1.77) 257.2298 213 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 257.2298 And then, 258.0293 214 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 258.0293 (pause 0.88) 258.9079 215 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 258.9079 you know, by the time I got to high school and the SATs, I'm like really just 262.1454 216 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 262.1454 (pause 0.50) 262.6455 217 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 262.6455 gobbling up language. 263.6603 218 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 263.6603 (pause 1.01) 264.6706 219 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 264.6706 So, by the time, 265.5097 220 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 265.5097 (pause 0.17) 265.6766 221 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 265.6766 nowadays, when I'm interacting with students, 267.6446 222 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 267.6446 (pause 0.16) 267.8028 223 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 267.8028 wow. You sound really smart, you're using words I'm not familiar with. I'm like 271.3063 224 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 271.3063 (pause 0.40) 271.7105 225 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 271.7105 well, I'm gonna keep using them until you are familiar with them. And 274.5680 226 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 274.5680 (pause 0.66) 275.2234 227 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 275.2234 you'll be used to them as well. 276.5588 228 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 276.5588 (pause 0.66) 277.2215 229 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 277.2215 Um. 277.7179 230 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 277.7179 (pause 0.79) 278.5086 231 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 278.5086 I think also, part of what influenced my language is I was 281.2454 232 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 281.2454 (pause 1.73) 282.9711 233 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 282.9711 a lot of my friends were, would be classified as gifted and talented. 285.4179 234 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 285.4179 (pause 0.91) 286.3272 235 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 286.3272 So, 287.1004 236 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 287.1004 (pause 2.49) 289.5905 237 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 289.5905 I remember- 290.5262 238 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 290.5262 (pause 1.10) 291.6244 239 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 291.6244 I remember arguing over the usage of the word conundrum i- 293.6187 240 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 293.6187 (pause 0.87) 294.4841 241 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 294.4841 when I was in eleventh grade, 295.9771 242 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 295.9771 (pause 1.52) 297.4926 243 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 297.4926 with my friends, and there were no adults around us. 300.2469 244 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 300.2469 (pause 0.69) 300.9404 245 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 300.9404 Because somebody used it 302.1791 246 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 302.1791 (pause 0.67) 302.8512 247 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 302.8512 like, they heard it, they used it in the middle of a phrase, and then we argued over the meaning of it. 306.5632 248 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 306.5632 (pause 0.59) 307.1512 249 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 307.1512 Um. 307.7882 250 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 307.7882 (pause 1.88) 309.6639 251 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 309.6639 That was a 310.9950 252 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 310.9950 (pause 0.36) 311.3508 253 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 311.3508 common event. 312.1986 254 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 312.1986 (pause 0.90) 313.0941 255 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 313.0941 Um. 313.5641 256 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 313.5641 (pause 0.27) 313.8321 257 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 313.8321 And I think a lot of that shaped 315.1807 258 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 315.1807 (pause 0.33) 315.5102 259 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 315.5102 how I addressed language. 316.8632 260 ROC_int_01 317.7154 Hm. 317.8867 261 ROC_int_01 317.8867 (pause 0.86) 318.7515 262 ROC_int_01 318.7515 Okay. 319.1644 263 ROC_int_01 319.1644 (pause 0.17) 319.3357 264 ROC_int_01 319.3357 Cool. Well, you hit 320.2187 265 ROC_int_01 320.2187 (pause 0.29) 320.5086 266 ROC_int_01 320.5086 my [other part that I was about to ask.] So, 322.6699 267 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 320.7546 [] 322.3316 268 ROC_int_01 323.1795 Um. 323.7110 269 ROC_int_01 323.7110 (pause 0.36) 324.0712 270 ROC_int_01 324.0712 Do you have any last comments to say? Maybe, about 326.8249 271 ROC_int_01 326.8249 (pause 0.64) 327.4619 272 ROC_int_01 327.4619 uh, your experience here, or Rochester in general? 330.5720 273 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 331.7267 Um. 332.3420 274 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 332.3420 (pause 5.69) 338.0342 275 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 338.0342 I think what it 338.6448 276 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 338.6448 (pause 0.33) 338.9742 277 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 338.9742 what you find in terms of the- the- 340.9335 278 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 340.9335 (pause 0.85) 341.7813 279 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 341.7813 the development of language. I think 343.4628 280 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 343.4628 (pause 1.34) 344.8026 281 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 344.8026 couple different things 346.0941 282 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 346.0941 (pause 0.81) 346.9024 283 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 346.9024 stand out. Especially from an education standpoint. 349.1860 284 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 349.1860 (pause 0.76) 349.9416 285 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 349.9416 Um. 350.5303 286 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 350.5303 (pause 1.80) 352.3263 287 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 352.3263 I was not an oral learner. And, when I say that, I mean 355.0455 288 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 355.0455 (pause 1.19) 356.2359 289 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 356.2359 I didn't learn stories and- 358.1882 290 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 358.1882 (pause 0.11) 358.2936 291 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 358.2936 and- 358.7637 292 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 358.7637 (pause 0.11) 358.8779 293 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 358.8779 and 359.2927 294 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 359.2927 (pause 0.09) 359.3831 295 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 359.3831 concepts and how to behave in school through 361.6972 296 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 361.6972 (pause 0.42) 362.1146 297 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 362.1146 story telling. 362.8701 298 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 362.8701 (pause 0.92) 363.7920 299 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 363.7920 I learned it from reading. 364.7892 300 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 364.7892 (pause 1.27) 366.0587 301 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 366.0587 And that changed 367.4073 302 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 367.4073 (pause 0.22) 367.6226 303 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 367.6226 my approach. And what I have found is that 369.5371 304 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 369.5371 (pause 2.20) 371.7380 305 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 371.7380 suburban districts, wealthier districts 373.9773 306 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 373.9773 (pause 1.69) 375.6686 307 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 375.6686 the majority of the students are learning from reading. They're not learning from story telling. 378.8862 308 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 378.8862 (pause 1.36) 380.2436 309 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 380.2436 So, 380.8762 310 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 380.8762 (pause 0.65) 381.5300 311 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 381.5300 which is very conducive towards a- uh, 383.6808 312 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 383.6808 (pause 0.56) 384.2404 313 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 384.2404 a hu- 384.5304 314 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 384.5304 (pause 0.79) 385.3167 315 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 385.3167 traditional educational s- 386.3885 316 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 386.3885 (pause 0.16) 386.5467 317 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 386.5467 setting. 387.0103 318 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 387.0103 (pause 1.17) 388.1782 319 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 388.1782 In urban districts, 388.9821 320 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 388.9821 (pause 0.47) 389.4521 321 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 389.4521 you find more of a storytelling, 392.0190 322 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 392.0190 (pause 1.22) 393.2358 323 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 393.2358 well, I'm not gonna read you Little Red Riding Hood. 395.4308 324 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 395.4308 (pause 0.25) 395.6826 325 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 395.6826 But, I know the story. So, I'm gonna tell it to you. 397.7472 326 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 397.7472 (pause 0.49) 398.2392 327 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 398.2392 And, I'll embellish it, so next time it's a little more entertaining. However I need it to be, but 401.9991 328 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 401.9991 (pause 0.28) 402.2758 329 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 402.2758 you know the basic story. 403.7958 330 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 403.7958 (pause 1.31) 405.1086 331 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 405.1086 Well that then says 406.8613 332 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 406.8613 (pause 1.04) 407.8981 333 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 407.8981 to a student, 408.5658 334 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 408.5658 (pause 0.25) 408.8162 335 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 408.8162 one, I don't need to have mastery of language. 410.8797 336 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 410.8797 (pause 1.02) 411.9013 337 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 411.9013 That's the 412.7153 338 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 412.7153 (pause 0.33) 413.0492 339 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 413.0492 mainstream mastery of it. 414.2440 340 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 414.2440 (pause 0.89) 415.1358 341 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 415.1358 I just need to have a mastery of concept. 417.5123 342 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 417.5123 (pause 1.29) 418.8032 343 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 418.8032 So, how I pronounce it doesn't matter. 420.2308 344 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 420.2308 (pause 0.24) 420.4681 345 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 420.4681 What I'm saying does. 421.7068 346 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 421.7068 (pause 1.18) 422.8885 347 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 422.8885 And so, 423.9121 348 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 423.9121 (pause 0.54) 424.4517 349 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 424.4517 the package changes. 425.9058 350 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 425.9058 (pause 1.07) 426.9791 351 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 426.9791 And I think a lot of people have 428.0422 352 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 428.0422 (pause 0.11) 428.1564 353 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 428.1564 issue 428.7576 354 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 428.7576 (pause 1.34) 430.0930 355 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 430.0930 with the packaging. 431.0155 356 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 431.0155 (pause 0.90) 431.9204 357 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 431.9204 Take the- 433.0230 358 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 433.0230 (pause 0.21) 433.2339 359 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 433.2339 the Southern accent. 434.2047 360 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 434.2047 (pause 0.33) 434.5386 361 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 434.5386 The stereotypical Southern accent. 436.1088 362 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 436.1088 (pause 0.81) 436.9195 363 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 436.9195 Um. 437.4994 364 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 437.4994 (pause 1.84) 439.3437 365 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 439.3437 M- most people don't realize that you have the PhD triangle 442.3792 366 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 442.3792 (pause 0.87) 443.2483 367 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 443.2483 in North Carolina. 444.1005 368 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 444.1005 (pause 1.70) 445.8006 369 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 445.8006 But, 446.0466 370 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 446.0466 (pause 0.16) 446.2047 371 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 446.2047 so which- which would say 447.2978 372 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 447.2978 (pause 0.27) 447.5658 373 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 447.5658 per capita, you have a lot of intelligent people 449.4503 374 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 449.4503 (pause 0.57) 450.0243 375 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 450.0243 in one nucleus. 451.4739 376 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 451.4739 (pause 2.23) 453.7048 377 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 453.7048 But, a lot of them are gonna have that Southern accent. But, you're going to assume stupidity with the Southern accent. Like, that's- 457.9962 378 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 457.9962 (pause 0.44) 458.4359 379 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 458.4359 that's a cultural norm, because you don't like the package. 460.4314 380 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 460.4314 (pause 0.63) 461.0647 381 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 461.0647 Um. 461.6577 382 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 461.6577 (pause 2.51) 464.1690 383 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 464.1690 And I- I think 465.2320 384 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 465.2320 (pause 0.77) 465.9993 385 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 465.9993 a lot of the times, people just need to get over that. We do the same thing 468.5614 386 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 468.5614 (pause 0.62) 469.1764 387 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 469.1764 With, the e- English as secondary learners. 472.1387 388 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 472.1387 (pause 1.06) 473.2018 389 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 473.2018 These are kids that should be in the fifth, sixth grade, but we put them in the fourth and third grade when they move here. Why? Because 478.0783 390 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 478.0783 (pause 0.57) 478.6506 391 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 478.6506 they have to learn English. 479.6670 392 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 479.6670 (pause 0.62) 480.2848 393 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 480.2848 Instead of just putting them in an English immersion program, 482.5970 394 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 482.5970 (pause 0.80) 483.3959 395 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 483.3959 and then, 484.1690 396 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 484.1690 (pause 0.62) 484.7840 397 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 484.7840 saying, you're one grade behind. 486.0360 398 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 486.0360 (pause 1.41) 487.4417 399 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 487.4417 Um. 488.1446 400 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 488.1446 (pause 2.17) 490.3184 401 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 490.3184 So, I think a lot of the times, 491.5484 402 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 491.5484 (pause 0.13) 491.6802 403 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 491.6802 people just need to get over, in terms of language. 493.6306 404 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 493.6306 (pause 0.38) 494.0114 405 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 494.0114 the packaging. 494.6146 406 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 494.6146 (pause 0.90) 495.5107 407 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 495.5107 And- and- 496.2927 408 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 496.2927 (pause 0.63) 496.9202 409 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 496.9202 and focus on the message. Because, 498.6598 410 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 498.6598 (pause 0.19) 498.8531 411 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 498.8531 if nothing else, listen to hip-hop. 500.5882 412 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 500.5882 (pause 1.10) 501.6865 413 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 501.6865 And, I don't- 502.0862 414 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 502.0862 (pause 0.18) 502.2663 415 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 502.2663 I don't mean that mumble crap. 503.6566 416 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 503.6566 (pause 0.48) 504.1326 417 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 504.1326 That tr- [ th-] it has it's purpose, whatever. 507.0735 418 ROC_int_01 504.9166 [] 505.4681 419 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 507.1833 But, 507.5216 420 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 507.5216 (pause 3.85) 511.3691 421 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 511.3691 If you look at say, 512.7265 422 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 512.7265 (pause 2.10) 514.8300 423 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 514.8300 what Eminem does. 516.0029 424 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 516.0029 (pause 0.38) 516.3851 425 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 516.3851 Nas, Mos Def, Common, 518.7484 426 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 518.7484 (pause 0.61) 519.3546 427 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 519.3546 even Kanye, in the way that they structure an argument 523.0394 428 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 523.0394 (pause 1.41) 524.4445 429 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 524.4445 lyrically. 525.2088 430 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 525.2088 (pause 1.41) 526.6189 431 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 526.6189 These are guys that are from traditional urban backgrounds. 529.1702 432 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 529.1702 (pause 1.94) 531.1078 433 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 531.1078 And if you knew nothing about them, 532.5794 434 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 532.5794 (pause 0.26) 532.8430 435 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 532.8430 all, the negative perceptions that would l- 534.2794 436 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 534.2794 (pause 0.34) 534.6177 437 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 534.6177 fall on them because of where they're from. 536.2859 438 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 536.2859 (pause 0.42) 536.7032 439 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 536.7032 And then, they open their mouths, and they 538.0746 440 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 538.0746 (pause 0.89) 538.9633 441 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 538.9633 unleash genius. 540.2241 442 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 540.2241 (pause 0.76) 540.9796 443 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 540.9796 Well, why is that 541.5287 444 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 541.5287 (pause 0.31) 541.8362 445 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 541.8362 possible? 542.4556 446 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 542.4556 (pause 1.08) 543.5327 447 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 543.5327 Well, because you take the time to actually listen to what they're saying, 545.5665 448 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 545.5665 (pause 0.83) 546.3968 449 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 546.3968 and how they use language. 548.1084 450 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 548.1084 (pause 0.14) 548.2446 451 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 548.2446 They're w- literally 549.0840 452 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 549.0840 (pause 0.14) 549.2290 453 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 549.2290 word smiths. 550.2833 454 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 550.2833 (pause 0.88) 551.1628 455 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 551.1628 Um. 551.8481 456 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 551.8481 (pause 1.26) 553.1082 457 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 553.1082 I think, 553.6705 458 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 553.6705 (pause 2.38) 556.0470 459 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 556.0470 people need to, again, get over the package. 558.0490 460 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 558.0490 (pause 0.15) 558.2028 461 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 558.2028 and really get to the heart of 559.6041 462 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 559.6041 (pause 0.89) 560.4958 463 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 560.4958 what's really being said. 562.1256 464 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 562.1256 (pause 0.62) 562.7487 465 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 562.7487 And, 563.4252 466 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 563.4252 (pause 0.72) 564.1500 467 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 564.1500 it would open their eyes a lot more to 566.3553 468 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 566.3553 (pause 0.19) 566.5441 469 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 566.5441 what things mean. 567.6907 470 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 567.6907 (pause 0.81) 568.4983 471 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 568.4983 And, create more fruitful conversations and interactions. 571.5733 472 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 571.5733 (pause 1.93) 573.5018 473 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 573.5018 And that's 574.4166 474 ROC_int_01 574.4166 [Yeah.] 574.7518 475 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 574.6362 [final] thought. 575.2704 476 ROC_int_01 575.6246 Okay. [Very cool.] 576.8606 477 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 575.8810 [] 577.0803 478 ROC_int_01 577.1637 Thank you so much. 578.1518 479 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 578.1518 No problem. 578.8034 480 ROC_int_01 578.9908 Do you still agree to me using this, uh, interview? 581.8860 481 ROC_se0_ag2_m_01 581.8860 Sure. 582.2594 482 ROC_int_01 582.3209 Okay. 582.6899 483 ROC_int_01 582.6899 (pause 0.17) 582.8569 484 ROC_int_01 582.8569 Great. 583.1731