Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 0.2461 And 0.7926 2 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 0.7926 (pause 0.80) 1.5918 3 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1.5918 I lived with my 2.7982 4 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2.7982 (pause 0.28) 3.0767 5 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3.0767 grandmother 3.9222 6 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3.9222 (pause 0.59) 4.5151 7 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 4.5151 Was my mother's mother. 6.2667 8 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 6.2667 (pause 1.11) 7.3752 9 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 7.3752 And 7.9733 10 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 7.9733 (pause 1.58) 9.5562 11 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 9.5562 we lived in a house that was owned by our family. 12.6122 12 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 12.6122 (pause 0.87) 13.4784 13 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 13.4784 My grandmother owned half of the house, 15.7366 14 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 15.7366 (pause 0.55) 16.2883 15 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 16.2883 and 16.8348 16 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 16.8348 (pause 0.49) 17.3232 17 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 17.3232 her sister owned the other half. 19.2618 18 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 19.2618 (pause 0.45) 19.7104 19 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 19.7104 And it was what they call- now they call it a shotgun house 23.0964 20 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 23.0964 (pause 0.56) 23.6532 21 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 23.6532 where all the rooms- 24.8854 22 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 24.8854 (pause 0.34) 25.2257 23 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 25.2257 you could stand in one room and see all the way [out the back] door. 28.9984 24 ROC_int_01 27.4582 [] 27.9789 25 ROC_int_01 29.3677 [/?/] 29.6014 26 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 29.4160 [And they] had a long hallway. 31.1020 27 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 31.7361 And, um, 32.5301 28 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 32.5301 (pause 0.38) 32.9117 29 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 32.9117 33.0303 30 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 33.0303 (pause 1.13) 34.1645 31 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 34.1645 I lived 35.0139 32 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 35.0139 (pause 0.37) 35.3851 33 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 35.3851 with my grandmother, and 37.2876 34 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 37.2876 (pause 0.41) 37.6949 35 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 37.6949 my mother had come 39.0664 36 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 39.0664 (pause 0.63) 39.7005 37 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 39.7005 to Rochester. 40.7059 38 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 40.7059 (pause 1.83) 42.5400 39 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 42.5400 At the time I was too young to understand why, 45.3963 40 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 45.3963 (pause 0.70) 46.0975 41 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 46.0975 but, um, 47.0603 42 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 47.0603 (pause 1.71) 48.7669 43 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 48.7669 my mo- my- 49.3959 44 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 49.3959 (pause 0.27) 49.6640 45 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 49.6640 I owe my grandmother 51.1540 46 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 51.1540 (pause 0.73) 51.8861 47 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 51.8861 so much because 53.4057 48 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 53.4057 (pause 0.56) 53.9677 49 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 53.9677 I was an infant 55.1845 50 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 55.1845 (pause 0.53) 55.7104 51 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 55.7104 when my mother left. 56.8292 52 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 56.8292 (pause 0.72) 57.5510 53 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 57.5510 And 58.0924 54 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 58.0924 (pause 0.88) 58.9740 55 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 58.9740 we had these old timey stoves. 61.0504 56 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 61.0504 (pause 1.05) 62.1022 57 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 62.1022 I don't know if you've ever seen one. You ever been to Genesee Country Museum? 65.6635 58 ROC_int_01 66.3956 [No.] 66.8390 59 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 66.5503 [They got] those old black wrought iron stoves, and you use this thing to 70.8128 60 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 71.2974 put on the hole and that would take the top off, 73.7516 61 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 73.7516 (pause 0.44) 74.1899 62 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 74.1899 and they make a fire underneath. 75.9480 63 ROC_int_01 76.0977 [Oh.] 76.5358 64 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 76.3999 [And my] grandmother had to do that 78.1585 65 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 78.6019 like the middle of the night 79.8032 66 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 79.8032 (pause 1.07) 80.8756 67 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 80.8756 and boil potatoes and mash 'em 82.9483 68 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 82.9483 (pause 0.11) 83.0550 69 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 83.0550 to feed me. 83.8904 70 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 83.8904 (pause 0.73) 84.6225 71 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 84.6225 So I'm really dedicated 86.3291 72 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 86.3291 (pause 0.67) 86.9993 73 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 86.9993 to her 87.5562 74 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 87.5562 (pause 0.47) 88.0305 75 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 88.0305 for doing all she did for me. 89.7666 76 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 89.7666 (pause 0.74) 90.5091 77 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 90.5091 And 90.9731 78 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 90.9731 (pause 0.15) 91.1226 79 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 91.1226 my mother 91.9578 80 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 91.9578 (pause 0.55) 92.5095 81 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 92.5095 kept in touch 93.5407 82 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 93.5407 (pause 1.27) 94.8090 83 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 94.8090 with my grandmother, 96.0553 84 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 96.0553 (pause 0.93) 96.9834 85 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 96.9834 but I didn't know that. I was 98.5476 86 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 98.5476 (pause 0.07) 98.6156 87 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 98.6156 tiny baby. 99.4994 88 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 99.4994 (pause 0.55) 100.0460 89 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 100.0460 And she'd send money. 101.3645 90 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 101.3645 (pause 0.80) 102.1636 91 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 102.1636 And 102.6895 92 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 102.6895 (pause 1.21) 103.9011 93 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 103.9011 I often- 104.5498 94 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 104.5498 (pause 0.28) 104.8331 95 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 104.8331 as I got older I wondered, how did we survive? Cause 108.2306 96 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 108.2306 (pause 0.39) 108.6173 97 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 108.6173 my grandmother used to just pick peaches, 111.0251 98 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 111.0251 (pause 0.64) 111.6696 99 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 111.6696 and that was in season, 113.2923 100 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 113.2923 (pause 0.71) 113.9986 101 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 113.9986 you know, and she didn't have any other job. 116.0352 102 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 116.0352 (pause 0.60) 116.6384 103 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 116.6384 She picked peaches, 117.7882 104 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 117.7882 (pause 0.69) 118.4791 105 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 118.4791 and 118.8337 106 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 118.8337 (pause 0.21) 119.0409 107 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 119.0409 I had to stay home. 120.3028 108 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 120.3028 (pause 0.82) 121.1226 109 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 121.1226 And sometimes, as I got, 122.8395 110 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 122.8395 (pause 1.07) 123.9119 111 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 123.9119 you know, more comfortable 125.3129 112 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 125.3129 (pause 0.40) 125.7099 113 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 125.7099 with her working, 126.8081 114 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 126.8081 (pause 1.59) 128.4013 115 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 128.4013 she would let me go to the movie, 129.9532 116 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 129.9532 (pause 0.89) 130.8400 117 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 130.8400 but 131.1232 118 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 131.1232 (pause 0.41) 131.5378 119 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 131.5378 it used to be 132.4520 120 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 132.4520 (pause 1.46) 133.9159 121 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 133.9159 I had chores. 135.0251 122 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 135.0251 (pause 0.53) 135.5562 123 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 135.5562 I had to make the bed, 136.7832 124 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 136.7832 (pause 1.39) 138.1739 125 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 138.1739 and I had to feed the biddies. 140.2466 126 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 140.2466 (pause 0.54) 140.7828 127 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 140.7828 You know what biddies? 141.7521 128 ROC_int_01 142.1285 Mm-mm. 142.7155 129 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 142.7510 They're little baby [chickens.] 144.1746 130 ROC_int_01 144.1560 [Ah.] 144.4998 131 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 144.5091 They call 'em biddies. 145.6949 132 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 145.6949 (pause 0.78) 146.4734 133 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 146.4734 And that 147.0612 134 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 147.0612 (pause 0.41) 147.4737 135 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 147.4737 was my two jobs. 148.8245 136 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 148.8245 (pause 0.58) 149.4084 137 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 149.4084 149.4593 138 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 149.4593 (pause 0.19) 149.6480 139 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 149.6480 So 150.1327 140 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 150.1327 (pause 0.57) 150.6998 141 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 150.6998 when she would come home, 152.0971 142 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 152.0971 (pause 0.84) 152.9375 143 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 152.9375 and she'd go in the- 154.2213 144 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 154.2213 (pause 0.38) 154.5976 145 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 154.5976 and then she'd go here, 155.9316 146 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 155.9316 (pause 0.68) 156.6122 147 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 156.6122 and then she'd t- come to me, and she said, go get the switch. 159.6644 148 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 159.6644 (pause 1.32) 160.9843 149 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 160.9843 And I couldn't understand, how does she know 163.1226 150 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 163.1226 (pause 0.34) 163.4629 151 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 163.4629 I didn't do my chores? (laughing) 164.9942 152 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 164.9942 (pause 0.73) 165.7263 153 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 165.7263 I made the bed, 166.8400 154 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 166.8400 (pause 0.37) 167.2098 155 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 167.2098 but I didn't make the bed. 168.8236 156 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 168.8236 (pause 0.32) 169.1484 157 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 169.1484 I spread the cover over it, 171.0921 158 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 171.0921 (pause 1.13) 172.2213 159 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 172.2213 and 172.6698 160 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 172.6698 (pause 0.74) 173.4109 161 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 173.4109 I didn't feed the biddies at all. 175.3856 162 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 175.3856 (pause 0.58) 175.9630 163 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 175.9630 And that's cause kids would 177.1901 164 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 177.1901 (pause 0.60) 177.7882 165 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 177.7882 tease me and scare me, 179.3696 166 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 179.3696 (pause 0.60) 179.9677 167 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 179.9677 so I would get out of the house as- 181.8178 168 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 181.8178 (pause 0.11) 181.9272 169 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 181.9272 as soon as I could. 183.1592 170 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 183.1592 (pause 1.24) 184.4017 171 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 184.4017 And I'd get a whipping. 185.3438 172 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 185.3438 (pause 1.17) 186.5142 173 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 186.5142 One- finally I think she was tired of whipping 188.9993 174 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 188.9993 (pause 0.92) 189.9211 175 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 189.9211 me. /So- was/ getting- (laughing) 191.8649 176 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 191.8649 (pause 0.33) 192.1995 177 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 192.1995 she was getting tired of it. 193.4887 178 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 193.4887 (pause 0.96) 194.4528 179 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 194.4528 So she t- s- 195.4840 180 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 195.4840 (pause 0.26) 195.7469 181 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 195.7469 told me to come out 196.8179 182 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 196.8179 (pause 0.87) 197.6893 183 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 197.6893 to the coop 198.4163 184 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 198.4163 (pause 0.22) 198.6328 185 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 198.6328 and she showed me 199.8032 186 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 199.8032 (pause 0.81) 200.6126 187 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 200.6126 she had 201.0870 188 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 201.0870 (pause 0.86) 201.9480 189 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 201.9480 a pan on top of the coop, and she had a piece of glass on top of it. 205.9475 190 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 205.9475 (pause 0.84) 206.7828 191 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 206.7828 If I had watered the biddies, 208.5461 192 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 208.5461 (pause 0.35) 208.8967 193 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 208.8967 the glass 209.6996 194 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 209.6996 (pause 0.36) 210.0553 195 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 210.0553 would have fell off the pan. 211.4010 196 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 211.4010 (pause 1.11) 212.5095 197 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 212.5095 So she didn't whip me, she said, because I didn't feed the biddies. 216.3647 198 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 216.3647 (pause 0.34) 216.7050 199 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 216.7050 She whipped cause I lied 218.5662 200 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 218.5662 (pause 0.97) 219.5407 201 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 219.5407 and said I fed 'em. 220.5615 202 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 220.5615 (pause 0.58) 221.1440 203 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 221.1440 221.2383 204 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 221.2383 (pause 1.07) 222.3080 205 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 222.3080 So as the years went by, 224.7106 206 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 224.7106 (pause 0.12) 224.8292 207 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 224.8292 my mother came to town. 226.3862 208 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 226.3862 (pause 1.02) 227.4109 209 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 227.4109 She used to send me 228.7821 210 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 228.7821 (pause 0.43) 229.2078 211 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 229.2078 packages, you know, but 230.4070 212 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 230.4070 (pause 0.12) 230.5268 213 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 230.5268 she came to town one time like at night, 233.0874 214 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 233.0874 (pause 1.32) 234.4059 215 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 234.4059 And then she left just as quick as she came. 236.8240 216 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 236.8240 (pause 0.90) 237.7263 217 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 237.7263 And that was my first time 239.5398 218 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 239.5398 (pause 0.24) 239.7821 219 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 239.7821 knowing my mother, and I was a little girl. I still remember. 243.2056 220 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 243.2056 (pause 1.21) 244.4172 221 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 244.4172 It's come to find out that, um, 246.7256 222 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 246.7256 (pause 0.59) 247.3177 223 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 247.3177 247.4375 224 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 247.4375 (pause 1.10) 248.5405 225 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 248.5405 my dad 249.3176 226 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 249.3176 (pause 0.10) 249.4206 227 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 249.4206 or my father- well I don't know what to call him now. 252.3028 228 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 252.3028 (pause 0.87) 253.1690 229 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 253.1690 He 253.5815 230 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 253.5815 (pause 0.38) 253.9630 231 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 253.9630 and my mother- 254.9478 232 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 254.9478 (pause 1.85) 256.7973 233 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 256.7973 uh, he's my father, 258.4214 234 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 258.4214 (pause 0.97) 259.3907 235 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 259.3907 and to this day, I don't know if it was consensual, 262.7214 236 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 262.7214 (pause 0.67) 263.3902 237 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 263.3902 or if he took advantage of her. 265.5454 238 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 265.5454 (pause 0.39) 265.9372 239 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 265.9372 And being the richest boy in town, you know, it's- 268.6389 240 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 268.6389 (pause 0.18) 268.8231 241 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 268.8231 his dad owned the movie theaters. There were two. 271.7001 242 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 271.7001 (pause 1.10) 272.8034 243 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 272.8034 He owned the movie theaters. He owned the hotel. 275.5088 244 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 275.5088 (pause 0.53) 276.0347 245 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 276.0347 He owned a grocery store and 278.4889 246 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 278.4889 (pause 0.50) 278.9890 247 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 278.9890 something else. I don't know. He had a lot of influence in the town. 282.4627 248 ROC_int_01 282.5452 Mm. 282.8287 249 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 284.3755 And 284.8550 250 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 284.8550 (pause 0.96) 285.8139 251 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 285.8139 the story is that 287.4418 252 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 287.4418 (pause 0.40) 287.8388 253 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 287.8388 my mom had to leave 289.2618 254 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 289.2618 (pause 0.89) 290.1538 255 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 290.1538 town in a hurry once I was born. 292.5100 256 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 292.5100 (pause 1.54) 294.0502 257 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 294.0502 And a friend of my m- 295.8908 258 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 295.8908 (pause 0.56) 296.4528 259 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 296.4528 family lives on /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Street, 298.2772 260 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 298.2772 (pause 0.11) 298.3876 261 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 298.3876 Miss /RD-NAME-2/. 299.2000 262 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 299.2000 (pause 1.36) 300.5555 263 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 300.5555 And I- 301.0401 264 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 301.0401 (pause 0.71) 301.7516 265 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 301.7516 when my father died, 303.2180 266 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 303.2180 (pause 0.19) 303.4040 267 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 303.4040 I w- 303.6945 268 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 303.6945 (pause 0.07) 303.7659 269 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 303.7659 asked Miss /RD-NAME-2/ 304.8760 270 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 304.8760 (pause 1.24) 306.1172 271 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 306.1172 did- was my fa- did she know my father. 308.7364 272 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 308.7364 (pause 1.01) 309.7469 273 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 309.7469 And she said, girl, yeah. 311.2717 274 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 311.2717 (pause 0.41) 311.6841 275 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 311.6841 She said, everybody know your father. 313.7052 276 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 313.7052 (pause 1.06) 314.7673 277 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 314.7673 I said, who was he? 316.0460 278 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 316.0460 (pause 0.67) 316.7162 279 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 316.7162 And she said, 317.4315 280 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 317.4315 (pause 1.44) 318.8751 281 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 318.8751 that was /RD-NAME-4/ boy, 320.6539 282 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 320.6539 (pause 0.35) 320.9993 283 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 320.9993 you know, like that. 321.9996 284 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 321.9996 (pause 0.40) 322.3966 285 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 322.3966 And I said, 323.1235 286 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 323.1235 (pause 1.32) 324.4420 287 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 324.4420 okay, 325.1861 288 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 325.1861 (pause 0.29) 325.4735 289 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 325.4735 cause 325.8032 290 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 325.8032 (pause 0.50) 326.3033 291 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 326.3033 that wasn't my father's last name, /RD-NAME-3/. 328.8967 292 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 328.8967 (pause 1.29) 330.1894 293 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 330.1894 And I said, is that 331.3466 294 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 331.3466 (pause 0.14) 331.4828 295 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 331.4828 t- 331.6540 296 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 331.6540 (pause 0.08) 331.7298 297 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 331.7298 is that true, /RD-NAME-2/? She said, 333.4582 298 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 333.4582 (pause 0.43) 333.8913 299 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 333.8913 yeah. She said, everybody know. They was talking- you was the talk of the town. 337.4680 300 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 337.4680 (pause 0.44) 337.9114 301 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 337.9114 /RD-NAME-3/ done got her a white baby. 340.1903 302 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 340.1903 (pause 0.71) 340.9018 303 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 340.9018 And- uh, but she said, /RD-NAME-3/ had to leave town 344.1022 304 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 344.1022 (pause 0.88) 344.9787 305 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 344.9787 after you was born. 346.1491 306 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 346.1491 (pause 0.48) 346.6337 307 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 346.6337 She said, she left in a wagon. They /throw/ the tarp over, 349.8805 308 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 349.8805 (pause 0.44) 350.3188 309 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 350.3188 and she left in the middle of the night. 352.0924 310 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 352.0924 (pause 0.82) 352.9108 311 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 352.9108 And she couldn't come back cause they woulda killed her 355.3546 312 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 355.3546 (pause 0.36) 355.7155 313 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 355.7155 for messing with that white boy. 357.2365 314 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 357.2365 (pause 1.13) 358.3708 315 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 358.3708 So I said, well what if she wasn't messing with him? He was messing with her. 362.5456 316 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 362.5456 (pause 0.37) 362.9168 317 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 362.9168 She said, didn't matter. 364.0305 318 ROC_int_01 364.2515 [Mm.] 364.6432 319 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 364.3192 [She had] to get out of town. 365.7357 320 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 367.1484 So those are the things that the family kept from me. 370.0614 321 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 370.0614 (pause 1.11) 371.1685 322 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 371.1685 And 371.8182 323 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 371.8182 (pause 0.22) 372.0368 324 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 372.0368 372.0876 325 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 372.0876 (pause 0.67) 372.7617 326 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 372.7617 so 373.2824 327 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 373.2824 (pause 0.42) 373.7001 328 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 373.7001 I often wonder, 374.9323 329 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 374.9323 (pause 0.54) 375.4685 330 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 375.4685 how did they 376.3759 331 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 376.3759 (pause 0.64) 377.0204 332 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 377.0204 meet up here? 378.1739 333 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 378.1739 (pause 0.67) 378.8390 334 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 378.8390 Cause I worked 379.5454 335 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 379.5454 (pause 0.27) 379.8135 336 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 379.8135 at the library at the /RD-WORK-6/. 382.2006 337 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 382.2006 (pause 0.97) 383.1737 338 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 383.1737 And 383.5913 339 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 383.5913 (pause 0.61) 384.2049 340 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 384.2049 this 384.4472 341 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 384.4472 (pause 0.25) 384.6998 342 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 384.6998 kid used to come in there all the time, and he was really really 388.3347 343 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 388.3347 (pause 0.41) 388.7420 344 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 388.7420 out of it. It was psychiatric, so, you know, he had some 391.9733 345 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 391.9733 (pause 0.36) 392.3291 346 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 392.3291 problems. 393.0354 347 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 393.0354 (pause 0.96) 393.9996 348 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 393.9996 So he would come in, and 395.5552 349 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 395.5552 (pause 0.44) 395.9935 350 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 395.9935 he'd always leave me a message 397.8496 351 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 397.8496 (pause 0.40) 398.2517 352 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 398.2517 by the title of a book. 399.9789 353 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 399.9789 (pause 0.47) 400.4481 354 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 400.4481 He'd have messages 401.6841 355 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 401.6841 (pause 0.42) 402.1069 356 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 402.1069 titled like- 403.0246 357 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 403.0246 (pause 1.35) 404.3755 358 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 404.3755 I can't even think of any now. 405.9686 359 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 405.9686 (pause 0.72) 406.6853 360 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 406.6853 But the 407.2665 361 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 407.2665 (pause 0.29) 407.5552 362 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 407.5552 titles, if you put 'em all together, it was a message. 410.8756 363 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 410.8756 (pause 0.53) 411.4066 364 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 411.4066 So it was kind of scary. 412.9108 365 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 412.9108 (pause 0.76) 413.6738 366 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 413.6738 I was very nervous, 414.9164 367 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 414.9164 (pause 0.70) 415.6124 368 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 415.6124 but 415.8857 369 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 415.8857 (pause 1.27) 417.1592 370 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 417.1592 I didn't let him know that. 418.6544 371 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 418.6544 (pause 0.14) 418.7971 372 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 418.7971 And I didn't run from him or anything like that. 421.5248 373 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 421.5248 (pause 0.92) 422.4425 374 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 422.4425 So one day he was- um, 424.2573 375 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 424.2573 (pause 1.13) 425.3902 376 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 425.3902 he was reading 426.4730 377 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 426.4730 (pause 0.79) 427.2670 378 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 427.2670 in the library, and, um, 429.0870 379 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 429.0870 (pause 0.10) 429.1849 380 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 429.1849 he used to read the Who's Who. 430.8245 381 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 430.8245 (pause 0.87) 431.6944 382 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 431.6944 So he said, /RD-NAME-1/, come here. 433.5454 383 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 433.5454 (pause 0.70) 434.2414 384 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 434.2414 So I went over, and he said, 435.9054 385 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 435.9054 (pause 0.52) 436.4217 386 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 436.4217 this is my dad 437.5398 387 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 437.5398 (pause 0.89) 438.4317 388 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 438.4317 or father, whatever he said. 440.1744 389 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 440.1744 (pause 0.98) 441.1540 390 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 441.1540 I said, oh, 442.2934 391 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 442.2934 (pause 0.74) 443.0359 392 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 443.0359 /RD-ADDRESS-4/ Georgia, I said, that's where I'm from. 445.7465 393 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 445.7465 (pause 1.42) 447.1646 394 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 447.1646 He said, really? I said, yeah. I said, I knew some /RD-NAME-3/. I said, you must, uh, be the /RD-NAME-3/ 452.7003 395 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 452.7003 (pause 0.41) 453.1076 396 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 453.1076 from /RD-ADDRESS-4/. 454.1852 397 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 454.1852 (pause 0.67) 454.8554 398 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 454.8554 I said, you know /RD-NAME-4/? 456.5809 399 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 456.5809 (pause 0.36) 456.9457 400 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 456.9457 He said, it was my grandfather. 458.6126 401 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 458.6126 (pause 0.77) 459.3809 402 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 459.3809 I said, really? 460.5461 403 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 460.5461 (pause 0.83) 461.3748 404 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 461.3748 And he said, yeah. 462.6844 405 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 462.6844 (pause 0.47) 463.1535 406 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 463.1535 I said, oh, I knew them. 464.5765 407 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 464.5765 (pause 0.26) 464.8343 408 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 464.8343 I knew. 465.4501 409 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 465.4501 (pause 0.12) 465.5722 410 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 465.5722 your family, and like that. 467.0345 411 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 467.0345 (pause 1.18) 468.2100 412 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 468.2100 So the very next day- 469.6920 413 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 469.6920 (pause 0.11) 469.8052 414 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 469.8052 well actually 470.7570 415 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 470.7570 (pause 0.79) 471.5458 416 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 471.5458 his father, 473.0153 417 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 473.0153 (pause 0.29) 473.3078 418 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 473.3078 it was a professor at the U of R. 475.4423 419 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 475.4423 (pause 1.00) 476.4425 420 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 476.4425 He was- 476.8632 421 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 476.8632 (pause 0.07) 476.9380 422 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 476.9380 he was a professor of economics 479.4727 423 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 479.4727 (pause 0.21) 479.6841 424 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 479.6841 at the U of R. 480.6637 425 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 480.6637 (pause 0.82) 481.4887 426 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 481.4887 But he'd never visit /RD-NAME-1/ 483.1746 427 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 483.1746 (pause 0.40) 483.5768 428 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 483.5768 beca- 483.9068 429 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 483.9068 (pause 0.48) 484.3862 430 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 484.3862 his name was /RD-NAME-2/, but 485.7151 431 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 485.7151 (pause 0.55) 486.2667 432 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 486.2667 everybody called him /RD-NAME-1/, 487.7155 433 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 487.7155 (pause 0.59) 488.3084 434 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 488.3084 the son. 488.9117 435 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 488.9117 (pause 1.73) 490.6389 436 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 490.6389 So 491.1634 437 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 491.1634 (pause 0.07) 491.2323 438 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 491.2323 f- 491.3817 439 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 491.3817 (pause 0.19) 491.5667 440 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 491.5667 /RD-NAME-1/ would go up 492.4575 441 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 492.4575 (pause 0.14) 492.5967 442 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 492.5967 to the U of R. Every time he get a honor card that he could leave the grounds, 496.6647 443 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 496.6647 (pause 0.32) 496.9881 444 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 496.9881 he'd go to the U of R. 498.2874 445 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 498.2874 (pause 0.48) 498.7720 446 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 498.7720 And he'd smash all the windows in his father's car, 501.9738 447 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 501.9738 (pause 0.58) 502.5564 448 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 502.5564 or he'd spray paint 'em, 503.9368 449 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 503.9368 (pause 0.55) 504.4884 450 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 504.4884 but security wouldn't, 505.7877 451 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 505.7877 (pause 0.41) 506.1950 452 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 506.1950 and the father wouldn't press charges. So they would bring him back 509.3748 453 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 509.3748 (pause 0.62) 509.9986 454 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 509.9986 to the /RD-WORK-6/. 511.4423 455 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 511.4423 (pause 0.21) 511.6537 456 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 511.6537 He'd lose his privilege, 512.9117 457 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 512.9117 (pause 0.35) 513.2571 458 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 513.2571 then when he earned the honor card, 514.9121 459 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 514.9121 (pause 0.28) 515.1943 460 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 515.1943 he'd go and do the same thing. 516.8339 461 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 516.8339 (pause 0.69) 517.5196 462 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 517.5196 His father would 518.4786 463 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 518.4786 (pause 0.40) 518.8756 464 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 518.8756 visit him, 519.7057 465 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 519.7057 (pause 0.37) 520.0769 466 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 520.0769 but he stopped 521.0809 467 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 521.0809 (pause 0.26) 521.3438 468 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 521.3438 because /RD-NAME-1/ would become violent 523.3185 469 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 523.3185 (pause 0.54) 523.8547 470 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 523.8547 on the ward he was staying on. 525.6335 471 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 525.6335 (pause 0.61) 526.2470 472 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 526.2470 So he stopped visiting him, 528.0657 473 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 528.0657 (pause 0.59) 528.6586 474 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 528.6586 but his mother would visit him. 530.4116 475 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 530.4116 (pause 0.82) 531.2365 476 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 531.2365 And he got along pretty good with his mother, but he did have a temper. 535.4216 477 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 535.4216 (pause 1.25) 536.6694 478 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 536.6694 But he never 537.4891 479 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 537.4891 (pause 0.55) 538.0356 480 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 538.0356 displayed the temper with me. 539.8285 481 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 539.8285 (pause 0.83) 540.6586 482 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 540.6586 So 541.1999 483 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 541.1999 (pause 0.54) 541.7361 484 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 541.7361 the day after 542.9787 485 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 542.9787 (pause 0.78) 543.7572 486 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 543.7572 he was reading the Who's Who, 545.4109 487 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 545.4109 (pause 0.69) 546.1018 488 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 546.1018 and his father 547.2670 489 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 547.2670 (pause 0.49) 547.7568 490 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 547.7568 was in it, 548.4992 491 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 548.4992 (pause 0.92) 549.4221 492 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 549.4221 and, 549.8346 493 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 549.8346 (pause 0.92) 550.7575 494 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 550.7575 you know, I'd say, I know 551.9007 495 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 551.9007 (pause 1.04) 552.9422 496 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 552.9422 the f- the /RD-NAME-3/. 554.2208 497 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 554.2208 (pause 0.78) 555.0045 498 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 555.0045 The very next day, 556.2670 499 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 556.2670 (pause 0.14) 556.4094 500 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 556.4094 his father came 557.4521 501 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 557.4521 (pause 0.91) 558.3595 502 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 558.3595 who n- 558.7892 503 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 558.7892 (pause 0.10) 558.8855 504 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 558.8855 had stopped visiting years before. 561.4169 505 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 561.4169 (pause 1.64) 563.0558 506 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 563.0558 He came, 563.9014 507 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 563.9014 (pause 1.27) 565.1697 508 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 565.1697 and h- 565.7111 509 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 565.7111 (pause 0.47) 566.1789 510 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 566.1789 his wife came with him. 567.8287 511 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 567.8287 (pause 0.87) 568.6949 512 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 568.6949 He introduced hisself, 570.3448 513 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 570.3448 (pause 0.90) 571.2419 514 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 571.2419 told me where he was from. And 573.0261 515 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 573.0261 (pause 0.12) 573.1469 516 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 573.1469 I shook his hand, and I was glad to meet him. 575.3291 517 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 575.3291 (pause 1.52) 576.8500 518 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 576.8500 H- well, uh, 578.0898 519 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 578.0898 (pause 0.09) 578.1830 520 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 578.1830 I think we 578.8171 521 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 578.8171 (pause 0.29) 579.1069 522 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 579.1069 chatted a little bit, 580.2979 523 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 580.2979 (pause 0.82) 581.1228 524 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 581.1228 and soon after that 582.8294 525 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 582.8294 (pause 0.79) 583.6234 526 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 583.6234 he would call, and- 585.0966 527 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 585.0966 (pause 0.46) 585.5606 528 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 585.5606 or his wife would call, and they would invite me 588.3138 529 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 588.3138 (pause 0.89) 589.2058 530 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 589.2058 out for lunch. 590.0771 531 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 590.0771 (pause 1.09) 591.1636 532 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 591.1636 And it was to thank me for 593.0403 533 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 593.0403 (pause 0.17) 593.2105 534 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 593.2105 being nice to 594.2932 535 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 594.2932 (pause 0.30) 594.5922 536 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 594.5922 their son. 595.2161 537 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 595.2161 (pause 0.86) 596.0809 538 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 596.0809 So we'd always go 597.2779 539 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 597.2779 (pause 0.08) 597.3553 540 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 597.3553 to, uh, Phillips European. You ever go [there?] 600.0970 541 ROC_int_01 599.8189 [Mm-hm.] 600.4039 542 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 600.2811 [Ooh], I love that [place.] 601.6028 543 ROC_int_01 601.1542 [Yeah, me] too. 601.9070 544 ROC_int_01 602.0809 [] 602.5243 545 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 602.4996 [I-] one time I dropped the, um, 604.7568 546 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 604.9372 605.1228 547 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 605.1228 (pause 0.61) 605.7312 548 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 605.7312 torte, 606.0973 549 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 606.0973 (pause 0.22) 606.3138 550 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 606.3138 raspberry torte. 607.3957 551 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 607.3957 (pause 0.24) 607.6335 552 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 607.6335 I dropped it, and I 608.8064 553 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 608.8064 (pause 0.15) 608.9578 554 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 608.9578 picked it up, and I ate it. [] 611.4167 555 ROC_int_01 611.3636 [It's] so [good.] 612.1849 556 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 612.0303 [That's] how good they [were.] (laughing) 613.7317 557 ROC_int_01 613.2109 [] 613.9379 558 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 614.2253 So we would go there, 615.7772 559 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 615.7772 (pause 0.62) 616.4010 560 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 616.4010 and we would eat, 617.6333 561 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 617.6333 (pause 0.28) 617.9117 562 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 617.9117 and he would go back to work. 619.6079 563 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 619.6079 (pause 0.23) 619.8348 564 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 619.8348 His wife was /RD-NAME-1/. 621.2203 565 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 621.2203 (pause 0.38) 621.5967 566 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 621.5967 She'd go wherever she go. 623.0146 567 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 623.0146 (pause 0.29) 623.3084 568 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 623.3084 And I would go back to work. 624.6747 569 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 624.6747 (pause 1.27) 625.9482 570 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 625.9482 And, um, 626.6893 571 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 626.6893 (pause 0.35) 627.0399 572 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 627.0399 627.1842 573 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 627.1842 (pause 0.70) 627.8803 574 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 627.8803 so, uh, not too long 630.1024 575 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 630.1024 (pause 0.37) 630.4737 576 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 630.4737 after 631.2161 577 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 631.2161 (pause 0.30) 631.5203 578 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 631.5203 he came there 632.4573 579 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 632.4573 (pause 1.14) 633.6019 580 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 633.6019 to meet me, 634.4784 581 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 634.4784 (pause 0.74) 635.2156 582 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 635.2156 he brought his daughter 636.4685 583 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 636.4685 (pause 0.56) 637.0253 584 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 637.0253 who lived in Boston. 638.5346 585 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 638.5346 (pause 1.36) 639.8957 586 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 639.8957 Her name is /RD-NAME-1/. 641.1744 587 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 641.1744 (pause 1.26) 642.4324 588 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 642.4324 So he introduced /RD-NAME-1/ 644.4676 589 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 644.4676 (pause 0.51) 644.9729 590 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 644.9729 to /RD-NAME-1/. 645.7617 591 ROC_int_01 645.9164 646.3752 592 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 646.6640 She was glad to meet me. 648.4634 593 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 648.4634 (pause 1.18) 649.6440 594 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 649.6440 And, um, 650.6532 595 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 650.6532 (pause 0.86) 651.5091 596 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 651.5091 we- 652.0453 597 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 652.0453 (pause 1.29) 653.3394 598 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 653.3394 she and I, we never went anywhere. She was just here visiting, but 656.7938 599 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 656.7938 (pause 0.11) 656.9022 600 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 656.9022 he brought her there to meet me. 658.4010 601 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 658.4010 (pause 1.28) 659.6848 602 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 659.6848 And 660.0045 603 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 660.0045 (pause 0.51) 660.5149 604 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 660.5149 al- I always thought that 662.2000 605 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 662.2000 (pause 0.88) 663.0760 606 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 663.0760 he told his wife about me, 665.4425 607 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 665.4425 (pause 0.97) 666.4118 608 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 666.4118 but he didn't tell anybody else until I met /RD-NAME-1/. 669.7978 609 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 669.7978 (pause 0.80) 670.6021 610 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 670.6021 And I'm thinking, maybe he told 672.4479 611 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 672.4479 (pause 0.37) 672.8191 612 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 672.8191 /RD-NAME-1/ 673.3450 613 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 673.3450 (pause 1.42) 674.7615 614 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 674.7615 because he was too proud to tell me 677.3445 615 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 677.3445 (pause 1.73) 679.0769 616 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 679.0769 cause 679.3669 617 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 679.3669 (pause 0.09) 679.4591 618 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 679.4591 he's from the old days in the South. 681.5194 619 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 681.5194 (pause 0.47) 681.9886 620 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 681.9886 You didn't mingle like that. 683.4477 621 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 683.4477 (pause 0.64) 684.0870 622 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 684.0870 And I think 684.6997 623 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 684.6997 (pause 0.07) 684.7724 624 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 684.7724 it woulda been embarrassment to him 686.8749 625 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 686.8749 (pause 0.75) 687.6225 626 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 687.6225 for anybody to know 688.9114 627 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 688.9114 (pause 0.47) 689.3858 628 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 689.3858 that I was his ch- 690.3193 629 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 690.3193 (pause 0.30) 690.6182 630 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 690.6182 his child. 691.3605 631 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 691.3605 (pause 0.41) 691.7678 632 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 691.7678 So 692.2201 633 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 692.2201 (pause 0.97) 693.1894 634 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 693.1894 I never said anything, 694.5402 635 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 694.5402 (pause 0.56) 695.1022 636 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 695.1022 but all my life 696.2571 637 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 696.2571 (pause 0.67) 696.9222 638 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 696.9222 I had been told he was my father. 699.1018 639 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 699.1018 (pause 1.26) 700.3649 640 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 700.3649 But my mother, she would never talk about it. 702.7005 641 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 702.7005 (pause 0.31) 703.0150 642 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 703.0150 I don't where I left off now. 704.6893 643 ROC_int_01 705.8184 [Uh-] 706.1793 644 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 706.1174 [Oh], he woulda been embarrassed 707.7828 645 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 708.2520 I think 708.8315 646 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 708.8315 (pause 0.08) 708.9082 647 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 708.9082 cause in the old days you didn't- 710.7615 648 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 710.7615 (pause 1.02) 711.7823 649 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 711.7823 I s- like I said, I don't know if it was consensual. They was 715.1800 650 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 715.1800 (pause 0.67) 715.8503 651 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 715.8503 going behind the bend somewhere, 717.8339 652 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 717.8339 (pause 0.67) 718.4990 653 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 718.4990 or if he was forcing hisself and she was scared 721.4584 654 ROC_int_01 721.6801 Mm-hm. 722.1390 655 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 722.1737 cause they had so much influence down there. 724.7980 656 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 724.7980 (pause 1.48) 726.2829 657 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 726.2829 So, um, 727.4481 658 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 727.4481 (pause 0.99) 728.4366 659 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 728.4366 728.5476 660 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 728.5476 (pause 0.71) 729.2564 661 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 729.2564 uh, 729.9215 662 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 729.9215 (pause 1.17) 731.0919 663 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 731.0919 I would tell my mother 732.4923 664 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 732.4923 (pause 0.14) 732.6299 665 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 732.6299 every time I see him 733.9173 666 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 733.9173 (pause 0.71) 734.6274 667 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 734.6274 or I- he'd call me 735.8597 668 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 735.8597 (pause 0.66) 736.5196 669 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 736.5196 or he'd send me a note. 737.8601 670 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 737.8601 (pause 0.19) 738.0509 671 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 738.0509 Like- 738.4118 672 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 738.4118 (pause 1.04) 739.4481 673 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 739.4481 and my mother would get 740.3897 674 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 740.3897 (pause 0.15) 740.5357 675 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 740.5357 very upset, and she would drink. 742.9888 676 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 742.9888 (pause 0.41) 743.4013 677 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 743.4013 She would get drunk like for days. 745.6750 678 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 745.6750 (pause 0.81) 746.4882 679 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 746.4882 And I think it was 747.7411 680 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 747.7411 (pause 0.62) 748.3598 681 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 748.3598 bad memories for her, 749.8137 682 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 749.8137 (pause 0.37) 750.1798 683 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 750.1798 so I stopped telling her. 751.5306 684 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 751.5306 (pause 0.60) 752.1273 685 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 752.1273 Whenever I would 753.0811 686 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 753.0811 (pause 1.05) 754.1329 687 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 754.1329 meet them for lunch or 755.5920 688 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 755.5920 (pause 0.62) 756.2159 689 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 756.2159 go to the house, I would never, 757.8021 690 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 757.8021 (pause 0.15) 757.9561 691 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 757.9561 um, tell my mother 759.3595 692 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 759.3595 (pause 0.90) 760.2618 693 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 760.2618 because I didn't wanna hurt her like that. 762.2623 694 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 762.2623 (pause 0.27) 762.5304 695 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 762.5304 [I didn't] know the story, 763.8760 696 ROC_int_01 762.5587 [Mm.] 762.8949 697 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 764.2253 so it was no reason to 765.6792 698 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 765.6792 (pause 0.65) 766.3288 699 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 766.3288 keep bringing it up to her. 767.7415 700 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 767.7415 (pause 0.58) 768.3190 701 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 768.3190 768.4218 702 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 768.4218 (pause 0.44) 768.8655 703 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 768.8655 So, um, 769.8967 704 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 769.8967 (pause 2.05) 771.9473 705 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 771.9473 when I was 772.9372 706 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 772.9372 (pause 0.56) 773.4992 707 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 773.4992 ten, 774.0870 708 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 774.0870 (pause 1.22) 775.3038 709 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 775.3038 my mother- uh, oh, and I went all over the town, 778.3082 710 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 778.3082 (pause 0.41) 778.7207 711 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 778.7207 you know, nobody bothered me. 780.1849 712 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 780.1849 (pause 0.40) 780.5819 713 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 780.5819 Like, my grandmother picked peaches in season, 783.5142 714 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 783.5142 (pause 0.67) 784.1845 715 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 784.1845 and we didn't have babysitters. 785.8189 716 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 785.8189 (pause 0.58) 786.4015 717 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 786.4015 So after I'd 787.3192 718 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 787.3192 (pause 0.43) 787.7472 719 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 787.7472 do my- 788.3954 720 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 788.3954 (pause 0.14) 788.5346 721 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 788.5346 I so-called did my chores, (laughing) 790.7793 722 ROC_int_01 791.1672 [Mm-hm.] 791.5459 723 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 791.5104 [I] go to the movie 792.7882 724 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 793.3553 which 793.7678 725 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 793.7678 (pause 0.92) 794.6841 726 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 794.6841 was owned by the 795.6264 727 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 795.6264 (pause 0.15) 795.7779 728 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 795.7779 /RD-NAME-3/. 796.6124 729 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 796.6124 (pause 0.95) 797.5611 730 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 797.5611 And 797.9684 731 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 797.9684 (pause 1.29) 799.2625 732 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 799.2625 I c- 799.5761 733 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 799.5761 (pause 0.27) 799.8451 734 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 799.8451 I couldn't sit upstairs. I had to sit downstairs 803.8704 735 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 803.8704 (pause 0.28) 804.1540 736 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 804.1540 where the white people sit. 805.2780 737 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 805.2780 (pause 1.57) 806.8440 738 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 806.8440 That was what he insisted, the father. 809.4992 739 ROC_int_01 809.9168 [Mm.] 810.4221 740 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 810.2984 [/RD-NAME-1/] 811.0666 741 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 811.5976 /RD-NAME-4/ they called /him/. 813.1946 742 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 813.1946 (pause 0.38) 813.5761 743 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 813.5761 So I would sit downstairs 815.7518 744 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 815.7518 (pause 0.52) 816.2674 745 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 816.2674 with the white people. 817.2095 746 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 817.2095 (pause 0.85) 818.0600 747 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 818.0600 And these were weekdays, 819.5059 748 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 819.5059 (pause 0.14) 819.6508 749 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 819.6508 so I think it mighta been 821.3497 750 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 821.3497 (pause 0.37) 821.7207 751 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 821.7207 to protect me 822.7364 752 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 822.7364 (pause 0.83) 823.5665 753 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 823.5665 that he had me sit downstairs and watch the movies. 826.8545 754 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 826.8545 (pause 0.53) 827.3804 755 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 827.3804 If I was sitting upstairs, there's nobody watching me. 830.3192 756 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 830.3192 (pause 1.25) 831.5655 757 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 831.5655 S- and I think he also 833.2721 758 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 833.2721 (pause 0.67) 833.9372 759 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 833.9372 supported my grandmother and me 836.2031 760 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 836.2031 (pause 0.77) 836.9689 761 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 836.9689 cause we had everything we needed. 838.6844 762 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 838.6844 (pause 0.22) 838.9061 763 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 838.9061 She couldn't- 839.5918 764 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 839.5918 (pause 0.51) 840.0971 765 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 840.0971 she couldn't support us 841.4118 766 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 841.4118 (pause 0.32) 841.7366 767 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 841.7366 just picking peaches 842.9121 768 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 842.9121 (pause 0.49) 843.4006 769 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 843.4006 whenever the peach season was, summer I guess. 845.9114 770 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 845.9114 (pause 1.16) 847.0715 771 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 847.0715 And- 847.4096 772 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 847.4096 (pause 0.13) 847.5349 773 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 847.5349 and I- 848.0885 774 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 848.0885 (pause 0.15) 848.2429 775 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 848.2429 I wore shoes. I had shoes. 850.2616 776 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 850.2616 (pause 0.70) 850.9576 777 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 850.9576 And I wore corduroys, you know, I done had 853.4324 778 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 853.4324 (pause 0.19) 853.6180 779 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 853.6180 sweater. 854.2780 780 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 854.2780 (pause 0.61) 854.8864 781 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 854.8864 I had nice things, so I know 856.9731 782 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 856.9731 (pause 0.84) 857.8083 783 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 857.8083 the money was coming from somewhere. 859.9892 784 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 859.9892 (pause 0.62) 860.6131 785 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 860.6131 And my mother would send a box now and then, but it was mostly goodies. 864.4786 786 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 864.4786 (pause 0.80) 865.2767 787 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 865.2767 It wasn't clothes or anything. She didn't know how big I was or whatever. 868.8751 788 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 868.8751 (pause 1.61) 870.4889 789 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 870.4889 So, 871.0303 790 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 871.0303 (pause 0.43) 871.4634 791 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 871.4634 um, 872.0511 792 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 872.0511 (pause 0.97) 873.0256 793 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 873.0256 when I was ten 874.1224 794 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 874.1224 (pause 0.70) 874.8236 795 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 874.8236 my grandmother- 875.9011 796 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 875.9011 (pause 0.64) 876.5456 797 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 876.5456 my mother 877.2262 798 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 877.2262 (pause 1.65) 878.8787 799 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 878.8787 and my grandmother, they musta been writing letters or something. 882.3291 800 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 882.3291 (pause 0.42) 882.7518 801 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 882.7518 I don't think they had 883.6514 802 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 883.6514 (pause 0.09) 883.7417 803 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 883.7417 telephones. I know we didn't. 885.6532 804 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 885.6532 (pause 0.85) 886.5039 805 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 886.5039 So they probably had, 888.0971 806 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 888.0971 (pause 0.86) 888.9581 807 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 888.9581 uh, 889.4994 808 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 889.4994 (pause 0.39) 889.8913 809 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 889.8913 communication by letter. 891.5191 810 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 891.5191 (pause 1.11) 892.6328 811 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 892.6328 And my mother ca- showed up to bring me here. 895.6129 812 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 895.6129 (pause 1.34) 896.9482 813 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 896.9482 And my grandmother was very upset, 899.4474 814 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 899.4474 (pause 0.44) 899.8908 815 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 899.8908 and she moved to Florida with her sister. 902.4172 816 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 902.4172 (pause 1.34) 903.7615 817 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 903.7615 Left my mother and me there with the pigs and the chickens and all the vegetables, everything, the eggs, 910.1121 818 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 910.1121 (pause 0.42) 910.5297 819 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 910.5297 the whole house, 911.3443 820 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 911.3443 (pause 0.49) 911.8393 821 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 911.8393 well, our half, everything. 913.4066 822 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 913.4066 (pause 0.69) 914.0975 823 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 914.0975 So 914.6543 824 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 914.6543 (pause 1.64) 916.2977 825 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 916.2977 I ate so many 917.6640 826 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 917.6640 (pause 0.75) 918.4116 827 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 918.4116 chick- 918.6646 828 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 918.6646 (pause 0.10) 918.7629 829 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 918.7629 I ate chicken cooked so many ways. [] 922.4678 830 ROC_int_01 921.9007 [] 922.5916 831 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 923.1123 I got so tired of chicken. 924.9426 832 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 924.9426 (pause 0.89) 925.8294 833 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 925.8294 I remember my 926.6760 834 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 926.6760 (pause 0.10) 926.7752 835 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 926.7752 g- s- excuse [me.] 927.7563 836 ROC_int_01 927.6532 [Yup.] 928.0038 837 ROC_int_01 928.2170 /Chicken/ so many [different kind of ways. ] 930.5198 838 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 928.9267 [Oh yeah, all kind of] chicken. 930.9735 839 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 931.5458 And we couldn't give 'em away cause people had they own chickens, [eggs too], 935.2051 840 ROC_int_01 934.4739 [Mm-hm] 935.0464 841 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 935.3959 vegetables. (laughing) 936.9839 842 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 936.9839 (pause 0.72) 937.7057 843 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 937.7057 And, uh, 938.4378 844 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 938.4378 (pause 0.55) 938.9881 845 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 938.9881 so my mother gave me 940.3544 846 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 940.3544 (pause 0.76) 941.1123 847 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 941.1123 probably a nickel or a dime or something- dime probably, 944.3502 848 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 944.3502 (pause 0.56) 944.9071 849 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 944.9071 944.9760 850 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 944.9760 (pause 0.24) 945.2149 851 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 945.2149 and I had to go 946.3235 852 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 946.3235 (pause 0.35) 946.6740 853 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 946.6740 to the cafe 947.7516 854 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 947.7516 (pause 0.61) 948.3652 855 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 948.3652 and get a burger, 949.3963 856 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 949.3963 (pause 0.45) 949.8500 857 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 949.8500 /but/ 949.9841 858 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 949.9841 (pause 0.24) 950.2213 859 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 950.2213 I don't think they called 'em that back then. I don't know what they called 'em. 953.8083 860 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 953.8083 (pause 0.53) 954.3394 861 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 954.3394 And a- 954.7776 862 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 954.7776 (pause 0.19) 954.9632 863 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 954.9632 and a 955.2417 864 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 955.2417 (pause 0.26) 955.5046 865 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 955.5046 Coca-Cola. 956.4945 866 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 956.4945 (pause 1.07) 957.5655 867 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 957.5655 And that's what I would eat, and she let me do that until we 961.1334 868 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 961.1334 (pause 0.61) 961.7418 869 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 961.7418 came up here. 962.6337 870 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 962.6337 (pause 1.35) 963.9832 871 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 963.9832 And I didn't get tired of 'em like I got tired of that [chicken.] (laughing) 967.6026 872 ROC_int_01 967.4296 [Mm-hm.] 967.9951 873 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 968.1336 So we came up here, 969.8646 874 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 969.8646 (pause 0.60) 970.4600 875 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 970.4600 970.5000 876 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 970.5000 (pause 0.28) 970.7772 877 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 970.7772 and 971.2567 878 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 971.2567 (pause 0.75) 972.0043 879 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 972.0043 we lived, um, 973.3551 880 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 973.3551 (pause 1.40) 974.7575 881 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 974.7575 in a house 975.4263 882 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 975.4263 (pause 0.36) 975.7872 883 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 975.7872 on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street. 977.2589 884 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 977.2589 (pause 0.16) 977.4239 885 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 977.4239 I forgot. I- 978.1733 886 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 978.1733 (pause 0.10) 978.2732 887 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 978.2732 I think it was 978.9993 888 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 978.9993 (pause 0.46) 979.4582 889 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 979.4582 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ 980.2367 890 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 980.2367 (pause 0.35) 980.5873 891 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 980.5873 or /RD-ADDRESS-2/. 981.4263 892 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 981.4263 (pause 0.55) 981.9780 893 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 981.9780 Anyway, um, 983.0762 894 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 983.0762 (pause 2.06) 985.1334 895 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 985.1334 we was 985.7366 896 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 985.7366 (pause 0.72) 986.4584 897 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 986.4584 I w- 986.7265 898 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 986.7265 (pause 0.06) 986.7892 899 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 986.7892 I got a- 987.4385 900 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 987.4385 (pause 0.08) 987.5182 901 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 987.5182 um, 988.1997 902 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 988.1997 (pause 0.61) 988.8133 903 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 988.8133 988.9679 904 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 988.9679 (pause 0.13) 989.0968 905 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 989.0968 um, 989.6176 906 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 989.6176 (pause 2.45) 992.0666 907 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 992.0666 she got a knock on the door once, and she opened the door, and it was my grandmother. 996.1847 908 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 996.1847 (pause 1.11) 997.2984 909 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 997.2984 My grandmother had left Florida, 999.0809 910 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 999.0809 (pause 0.59) 999.6687 911 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 999.6687 come up here 1000.5452 912 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1000.5452 (pause 0.76) 1001.3082 913 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1001.3082 and got a 1001.9166 914 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1001.9166 (pause 0.25) 1002.1692 915 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1002.1692 place to stay 1003.2520 916 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1003.2520 (pause 0.32) 1003.5716 917 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1003.5716 and came and took me back 1005.2000 918 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1005.2000 (pause 0.10) 1005.3026 919 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1005.3026 with her. 1005.8852 920 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1005.8852 (pause 0.51) 1006.3905 921 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1006.3905 And we lived on 1007.5144 922 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1007.5144 (pause 0.60) 1008.1177 923 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1008.1177 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street off /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street. 1010.4533 924 ROC_int_01 1011.2498 Mm-hm. 1011.5448 925 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1011.5552 I don't know if you familiar with [that.] 1013.5299 926 ROC_int_01 1013.4650 [What's] the- is that on this side of [town, or s-] 1015.7263 927 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1015.0354 [Mm-mm.] 1015.5613 928 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1015.8449 You know where, um, 1017.3181 929 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1017.3181 (pause 2.07) 1019.3856 930 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1019.3856 it's church on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ at /RD-ADDRESS-3/? 1022.0150 931 ROC_int_01 1022.7781 Yeah, okay. 1023.5257 932 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1023.5823 Okay, that's /RD-ADDRESS-2/ S- 1024.8700 933 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1024.8700 (pause 0.39) 1025.2618 934 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1025.2618 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street. 1026.1692 935 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1026.1692 (pause 1.90) 1028.0717 936 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1028.0717 Um, 1028.6323 937 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1028.6323 (pause 0.28) 1028.9108 938 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1028.9108 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street was off 1030.3441 939 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1030.3441 (pause 0.71) 1031.0556 940 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1031.0556 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street. 1031.8527 941 ROC_int_01 1031.8594 Okay. 1032.2116 942 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1032.7776 So that's where we lived, 1034.3476 943 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1034.3476 (pause 0.08) 1034.4230 944 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1034.4230 and we stayed there- 1035.6738 945 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1035.6738 (pause 2.20) 1037.8754 946 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1037.8754 uh, I was thirteen, 1039.5046 947 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1039.5046 (pause 0.36) 1039.8604 948 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1039.8604 and we stayed- 1040.6904 949 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1040.6904 (pause 0.85) 1041.5449 950 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1041.5449 no I was ten 1042.6446 951 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1042.6446 (pause 0.08) 1042.7221 952 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1042.7221 cause I came up here, and my grandmother, 1044.6590 953 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1044.6590 (pause 0.61) 1045.2726 954 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1045.2726 she couldn't handle that, 1046.6358 955 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1046.6358 (pause 0.08) 1046.7161 956 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1046.7161 so she came right behind us. 1048.4059 957 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1048.4059 (pause 0.64) 1049.0504 958 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1049.0504 But she was prepared. 1050.0874 959 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1050.0874 (pause 0.13) 1050.2203 960 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1050.2203 She had a place for me to stay. (laughing) 1052.5100 961 ROC_int_01 1052.6853 [Mm-hm.] 1053.3645 962 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1053.0049 [So] 1053.5862 963 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1053.8646 I stayed with my grandmother 1055.6537 964 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1055.6537 (pause 0.99) 1056.6436 965 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1056.6436 until I was thirteen. 1058.1181 966 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1058.1181 (pause 1.42) 1059.5346 967 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1059.5346 So when we first got up- when I f- 1061.6433 968 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1061.6433 (pause 0.27) 1061.9166 969 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1061.9166 when she first got here 1063.4840 970 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1063.4840 (pause 0.70) 1064.1852 971 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1064.1852 and- 1064.6595 972 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1064.6595 (pause 1.27) 1065.9265 973 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1065.9265 to take me to school, 1067.4985 974 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1067.4985 (pause 0.15) 1067.6439 975 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1067.6439 it was Number /RD-SCHOOL-1/ School on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue. 1070.4069 976 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1070.4069 (pause 0.72) 1071.1273 977 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1071.1273 It's on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue now. 1072.9679 978 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1072.9679 (pause 0.53) 1073.4990 979 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1073.4990 But the r- 1073.9682 980 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1073.9682 (pause 0.26) 1074.2311 981 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1074.2311 original was on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Avenue. 1076.3089 982 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1076.3089 (pause 0.78) 1077.0912 983 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1077.0912 So 1077.6377 984 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1077.6377 (pause 0.50) 1078.1378 985 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1078.1378 I was go to f- 1079.0554 986 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1079.0554 (pause 0.11) 1079.1664 987 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1079.1664 fifth grade, 1079.9011 988 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1079.9011 (pause 1.01) 1080.9117 989 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1080.9117 and they said I couldn't, 1082.4172 990 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1082.4172 (pause 0.31) 1082.7265 991 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1082.7265 uh, 1083.1699 992 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1083.1699 (pause 0.23) 1083.4006 993 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1083.4006 cause I was coming from the South. 1084.9473 994 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1084.9473 (pause 1.05) 1085.9991 995 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1085.9991 And she said, 1086.7828 996 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1086.7828 (pause 0.73) 1087.5149 997 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1087.5149 she going to fifth grade. (breathy) 1089.1995 998 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1089.1995 (pause 0.13) 1089.3284 999 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1089.3284 I don't know exact words. She mighta cussed. I [don't know.] (laughing) 1092.2517 1000 ROC_int_01 1091.8650 [] 1092.5198 1001 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1092.8653 But, um, 1093.6902 1002 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1093.6902 (pause 0.55) 1094.2419 1003 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1094.2419 they insisted that I couldn't go to fifth grade 1096.8878 1004 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1096.8878 (pause 0.15) 1097.0344 1005 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1097.0344 cause 1097.4165 1006 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1097.4165 (pause 0.42) 1097.8341 1007 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1097.8341 I was coming from the South. 1099.3888 1008 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1099.3888 (pause 0.68) 1100.0666 1009 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1100.0666 So my grandmother said, 1101.5243 1010 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1101.5243 (pause 1.85) 1103.3752 1011 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1103.3752 you gonna have to test her 1104.8343 1012 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1104.8343 (pause 0.44) 1105.2777 1013 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1105.2777 because she going to the fifth grade. Now you can test her, 1108.4317 1014 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1108.4317 (pause 0.71) 1109.1432 1015 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1109.1432 but she going to fifth grade. 1110.6590 1016 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1110.6590 (pause 1.05) 1111.7057 1017 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1111.7057 And so they tested me, 1113.3129 1018 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1113.3129 (pause 0.49) 1113.8027 1019 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1113.8027 and they said, 1114.5606 1020 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1114.5606 (pause 0.45) 1115.0143 1021 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1115.0143 oh, 1115.6794 1022 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1115.6794 (pause 0.26) 1115.9372 1023 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1115.9372 she can't go to fifth grade. 1117.5613 1024 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1117.5613 (pause 0.34) 1117.9016 1025 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1117.9016 She has to go to sixth grade. 1119.3799 1026 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1119.3799 (pause 0.63) 1120.0141 1027 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1120.0141 My grandmother said, uh-uh, she going to fifth grade. 1122.6230 1028 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1122.6230 (pause 0.85) 1123.4685 1029 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1123.4685 She's not skipping, and she's not staying back. She going to fifth grade. (laughing) 1128.0267 1030 ROC_int_01 1128.0361 [] 1128.9787 1031 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1128.1068 [] 1129.1437 1032 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1130.0253 So (breathy) I said, okay. 1132.3080 1033 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1132.3080 (pause 0.65) 1132.9532 1034 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1132.9532 I mean, she said okay. So I went to Number /RD-SCHOOL-1/ School in the fifth grade. 1137.3078 1035 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1137.3078 (pause 1.14) 1138.4523 1036 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1138.4523 That's where I met my husband. 1139.9424 1037 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1139.9424 (pause 0.19) 1140.1280 1038 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1140.1280 1140.6900 1039 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1140.6900 (pause 0.63) 1141.3190 1040 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1141.3190 The first /day/, 1142.3869 1041 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1142.3869 (pause 0.13) 1142.5207 1042 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1142.5207 uh, some- 1143.3335 1043 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1143.3335 (pause 0.09) 1143.4219 1044 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1143.4219 somebody 1144.1248 1045 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1144.1248 (pause 0.09) 1144.2171 1046 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1144.2171 told him a new girl was in town, and 1146.7312 1047 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1146.7312 (pause 0.36) 1147.0870 1048 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1147.0870 he came right to the house on that raggedy bicycle, no fenders. 1151.5763 1049 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1151.5763 (pause 0.37) 1151.9424 1050 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1151.9424 Is that what you call them 1153.1205 1051 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1153.1205 (pause 0.08) 1153.2051 1052 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1153.2051 things on the- 1153.9679 1053 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1153.9679 (pause 0.10) 1154.0688 1054 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1154.0688 [over the wheels?] 1154.9379 1055 ROC_int_01 1154.2007 [Mm-hm.] 1154.5751 1056 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1155.6480 And 1156.0627 1057 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1156.0627 (pause 0.06) 1156.1255 1058 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1156.1255 we was together all the time until he came out of the army, and then we got married. 1160.3811 1059 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1160.3811 (pause 0.47) 1160.8554 1060 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1160.8554 But, um, 1161.6480 1061 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1161.6480 (pause 0.74) 1162.3905 1062 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1162.3905 1162.4936 1063 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1162.4936 (pause 0.14) 1162.6328 1064 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1162.6328 uh, 1163.5248 1065 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1163.5248 (pause 2.67) 1166.1955 1066 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1166.1955 my teacher then was Miss /RD-NAME-3/, 1168.9061 1067 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1168.9061 (pause 0.77) 1169.6743 1068 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1169.6743 and she had us for fifth grade and sixth grade 1172.8385 1069 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1172.8385 (pause 0.13) 1172.9676 1070 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1172.9676 and seventh grade. 1174.0563 1071 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1174.0563 (pause 0.09) 1174.1464 1072 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1174.1464 Sh- 1174.2872 1073 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1174.2872 (pause 0.08) 1174.3652 1074 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1174.3652 she would not 1175.3959 1075 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1175.3959 (pause 0.61) 1176.0043 1076 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1176.0043 let us go. 1176.9375 1077 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1176.9375 (pause 1.08) 1178.0217 1078 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1178.0217 And when we graduated from Number /RD-SCHOOL-1/ School, 1180.9834 1079 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1180.9834 (pause 0.65) 1181.6382 1080 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1181.6382 she stopped teaching. 1182.7931 1081 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1182.7931 (pause 0.44) 1183.2313 1082 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1183.2313 She said she'd never teach another class. 1185.5655 1083 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1185.5655 (pause 0.77) 1186.3389 1084 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1186.3389 She loved us so much. 1187.7310 1085 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1187.7310 (pause 0.54) 1188.2724 1086 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1188.2724 So she, um, 1189.6129 1087 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1189.6129 (pause 0.58) 1190.1955 1088 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1190.1955 1190.3295 1089 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1190.3295 (pause 0.77) 1191.0964 1090 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1191.0964 became a principal 1192.4369 1091 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1192.4369 (pause 0.36) 1192.7978 1092 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1192.7978 at another school 1193.8805 1093 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1193.8805 (pause 0.44) 1194.3188 1094 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1194.3188 until she retired. 1195.5355 1095 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1195.5355 (pause 0.97) 1196.5048 1096 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1196.5048 So 1197.1015 1097 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1197.1015 (pause 0.10) 1197.2052 1098 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1197.2052 that's how I got here. 1198.7565 1099 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1198.7565 (pause 1.37) 1200.1228 1100 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1200.1228 Now 1200.6178 1101 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1200.6178 (pause 0.37) 1200.9839 1102 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1200.9839 I have to look at my [notes.] 1202.4017 1103 ROC_int_01 1202.2831 [Mm-hm.] 1202.6980 1104 ROC_int_01 1202.7701 Yeah. 1203.1428 1105 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1203.8079 And this is Miss /RD-NAME-1/ 1205.6330 1106 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1205.6330 (pause 0.90) 1206.5301 1107 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1206.5301 [/RD-NAME-2/.] 1207.2056 1108 ROC_int_01 1206.9510 [Uh-huh.] 1207.2577 1109 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1208.5151 No, that's Miss /RD-NAME-1/. This Miss /RD-NAME-3/ right there. 1211.6640 1110 ROC_int_01 1211.7568 Oh wow. 1212.8189 1111 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1212.9529 And you know what? 1213.6799 1112 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1213.6799 (pause 0.36) 1214.0356 1113 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1214.0356 She lived up here on West /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Street. 1216.2616 1114 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1216.2616 (pause 1.08) 1217.3391 1115 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1217.3391 You know where the little plaza 1219.3757 1116 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1219.3757 (pause 0.22) 1219.5926 1117 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1219.5926 /on/ the fish [market?] 1221.0603 1118 ROC_int_01 1220.7759 [Mm-hm.] 1221.5264 1119 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1221.5965 Right past /RD-ADDRESS-3/ Avenue 1223.5866 1120 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1223.5866 (pause 0.37) 1223.9527 1121 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1223.9527 this big 1224.5452 1122 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1224.5452 (pause 0.24) 1224.7839 1123 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1224.7839 beautiful brick house, 1226.1491 1124 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1226.1491 (pause 0.55) 1226.6994 1125 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1226.6994 and it used to be a church next door, but they tore the church down. 1230.1589 1126 ROC_int_01 1230.2053 Yeah. 1230.6590 1127 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1230.7570 That's where she [lived with her brother] all those years. 1233.7769 1128 ROC_int_01 1231.5908 [Oh wow.] 1232.3454 1129 ROC_int_01 1234.4420 Wow. 1235.0659 1130 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1235.9321 So, 1236.3652 1131 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1236.3652 (pause 0.33) 1236.6951 1132 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1236.6951 um, 1237.2468 1133 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1237.2468 (pause 1.38) 1238.6234 1134 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1238.6234 let's see. (breathy) 1239.5913 1135 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1239.5913 (pause 0.81) 1240.4059 1136 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1240.4059 Oh, and we got- 1241.4010 1137 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1241.4010 (pause 0.36) 1241.7619 1138 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1241.7619 I met my husband, 1242.9426 1139 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1242.9426 (pause 1.38) 1244.3192 1140 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1244.3192 and, um, 1245.1170 1141 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1245.1170 (pause 0.52) 1245.6377 1142 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1245.6377 I got- I told you all that. 1247.0790 1143 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1247.0790 (pause 0.06) 1247.1405 1144 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1247.1405 We had three children. 1248.3703 1145 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1248.3703 (pause 0.84) 1249.2107 1146 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1249.2107 Two of living- 1249.9878 1147 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1249.9878 (pause 0.07) 1250.0587 1148 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1250.0587 two are still living. My daughter is- 1252.2148 1149 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1252.2148 (pause 0.09) 1252.3009 1150 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1252.3009 /RD-NAME-2/ is fifty-seven. 1253.8393 1151 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1253.8393 (pause 0.52) 1254.3548 1152 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1254.3548 My son /RD-NAME-2/, he's fifty-four. 1256.3450 1153 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1256.3450 (pause 1.20) 1257.5449 1154 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1257.5449 And I went to Number /RD-SCHOOL-1/ School. 1259.5248 1155 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1259.5248 (pause 1.25) 1260.7725 1156 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1260.7725 I said all that. 1262.0511 1157 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1262.0511 (pause 1.16) 1263.2098 1158 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1263.2098 And when I l- graduated 1264.6534 1159 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1264.6534 (pause 0.98) 1265.6330 1160 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1265.6330 from Number /RD-SCHOOL-1/ 1267.0560 1161 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1267.0560 (pause 0.22) 1267.2726 1162 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1267.2726 after seventh grade, 1268.4842 1163 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1268.4842 (pause 0.47) 1268.9534 1164 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1268.9534 I went on to /RD-SCHOOL-4/. That's where you used to go. 1272.1435 1165 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1272.1435 (pause 0.62) 1272.7673 1166 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1272.7673 It's now the /RD-SCHOOL-5/ School. 1274.7575 1167 ROC_int_01 1274.9328 Mm. 1275.4831 1168 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1275.6429 And when we finished eighth grade at the /RD-SCHOOL-2/, 1278.4013 1169 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1278.4013 (pause 0.19) 1278.5920 1170 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1278.5920 we'd go to the 1279.4989 1171 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1279.4989 (pause 0.24) 1279.7375 1172 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1279.7375 high school 1280.5358 1173 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1280.5358 (pause 0.37) 1280.9018 1174 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1280.9018 which was on /RD-ADDRESS-4/ Street. 1282.8545 1175 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1282.8545 (pause 0.72) 1283.5763 1176 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1283.5763 But now it's on 1284.8498 1177 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1284.8498 (pause 0.38) 1285.2313 1178 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1285.2313 /RD-ADDRESS-1/ and /RD-ADDRESS-2/. 1286.3656 1179 ROC_int_01 1286.6389 Okay. 1287.0617 1180 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1288.2358 And- um, 1289.3082 1181 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1289.3082 (pause 0.96) 1290.2672 1182 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1290.2672 and we had to go- 1291.1385 1183 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1291.1385 (pause 0.61) 1291.7469 1184 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1291.7469 in Number /RD-SCHOOL-1/ School, 1292.8850 1185 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1292.8850 (pause 1.27) 1294.1585 1186 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1294.1585 you all we- y- 1294.9491 1187 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1294.9491 (pause 0.07) 1295.0175 1188 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1295.0175 everybody had to go home for lunch. 1296.8395 1189 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1296.8395 (pause 0.54) 1297.3757 1190 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1297.3757 There was no 1298.1399 1191 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1298.1399 (pause 0.10) 1298.2362 1192 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1298.2362 cafeteria. There was no free lunch. 1300.6070 1193 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1300.6070 (pause 0.56) 1301.1690 1194 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1301.1690 You didn't take a lunch. 1302.3231 1195 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1302.3231 (pause 0.14) 1302.4607 1196 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1302.4607 You went home. You got out of the school. 1304.5151 1197 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1304.5151 (pause 0.73) 1305.2459 1198 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1305.2459 And it didn't matter where you lived, 1306.7875 1199 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1306.7875 (pause 1.00) 1307.7877 1200 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1307.7877 you still had to go. 1309.0406 1201 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1309.0406 (pause 0.58) 1309.6232 1202 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1309.6232 So 1310.0975 1203 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1310.0975 (pause 0.31) 1310.4069 1204 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1310.4069 most of the time, in the beginning, 1312.2925 1205 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1312.2925 (pause 0.72) 1313.0143 1206 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1313.0143 when I'd come back to school, 1314.6745 1207 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1314.6745 (pause 1.42) 1316.0975 1208 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1316.0975 school was about over cause 1317.5769 1209 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1317.5769 (pause 0.07) 1317.6427 1210 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1317.6427 I would go the wrong way. 1319.1020 1211 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1319.1020 (pause 0.73) 1319.8290 1212 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1319.8290 I wasn't familiar 1321.1231 1213 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1321.1231 (pause 0.28) 1321.4066 1214 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1321.4066 with the city, you know. 1322.5719 1215 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1322.5719 (pause 0.57) 1323.1428 1216 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1323.1428 So instead of me coming out the school and going right, 1326.1589 1217 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1326.1589 (pause 0.72) 1326.8807 1218 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1326.8807 I would come out 1327.9325 1219 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1327.9325 (pause 0.24) 1328.1697 1220 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1328.1697 go left 1328.9276 1221 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1328.9276 (pause 0.28) 1329.2046 1222 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1329.2046 cause I probably was coming out a different door. I don't remember. 1332.5147 1223 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1332.5147 (pause 0.76) 1333.2777 1224 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1333.2777 My mother 1333.9119 1225 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1333.9119 (pause 1.10) 1335.0153 1226 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1335.0153 had a restaurant inside of the /RD-WORK-6/, 1338.3961 1227 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1338.3961 (pause 0.91) 1339.3035 1228 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1339.3035 so I had to go there for lunch 1341.2665 1229 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1341.2665 (pause 0.47) 1341.7357 1230 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1341.7357 which was 1342.2874 1231 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1342.2874 (pause 0.21) 1342.4936 1232 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1342.4936 like 1342.7565 1233 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1342.7565 (pause 0.15) 1342.9061 1234 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1342.9061 a block or two from the school, but I could never find it. 1346.1749 1235 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1346.1749 (pause 0.46) 1346.6337 1236 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1346.6337 That's cause I was going the wrong [way.] (laughing) 1349.5041 1237 ROC_int_01 1348.3699 [] 1349.8599 1238 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1350.0300 /This old/ country girl, you know, streets with cars on 'em and everything. 1354.4884 1239 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1354.4884 (pause 0.46) 1354.9525 1240 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1354.9525 So, 1355.4990 1241 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1355.4990 (pause 1.34) 1356.8343 1242 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1356.8343 uh, 1357.3138 1243 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1357.3138 (pause 1.42) 1358.7317 1244 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1358.7317 we- 1359.1737 1245 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1359.1737 (pause 0.30) 1359.4727 1246 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1359.4727 we would 1359.9161 1247 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1359.9161 (pause 0.35) 1360.2616 1248 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1360.2616 go home for lunch 1361.5402 1249 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1361.5402 (pause 1.17) 1362.7106 1250 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1362.7106 and 1363.4994 1251 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1363.4994 (pause 2.01) 1365.5140 1252 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1365.5140 come back to school. 1366.7720 1253 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1366.7720 (pause 0.44) 1367.2154 1254 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1367.2154 We'd hang out, not hang out, 1368.9709 1255 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1368.9709 (pause 0.07) 1369.0400 1256 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1369.0400 but if- if we- if I was good, my mother would let me stay on the playground 1373.4216 1257 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1373.4216 (pause 0.72) 1374.1394 1258 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1374.1394 and play 1375.0148 1259 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1375.0148 (pause 0.85) 1375.8604 1260 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1375.8604 on the playground with the other kids. 1377.7563 1261 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1377.7563 (pause 0.53) 1378.2874 1262 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1378.2874 So, 1378.7462 1263 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1378.7462 (pause 0.61) 1379.3598 1264 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1379.3598 1379.4423 1265 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1379.4423 (pause 0.22) 1379.6588 1266 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1379.6588 uh, 1380.2724 1267 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1380.2724 (pause 1.85) 1382.1181 1268 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1382.1181 if we got into tr- I got in trouble 1384.2032 1269 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1384.2032 (pause 0.09) 1384.2922 1270 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1384.2922 because 1384.8287 1271 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1384.8287 (pause 0.40) 1385.2257 1272 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1385.2257 coming back too late, 1386.4013 1273 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1386.4013 (pause 0.46) 1386.8653 1274 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1386.8653 but I finally got a grip 1388.4017 1275 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1388.4017 (pause 0.18) 1388.5822 1276 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1388.5822 [o-] 1388.6671 1277 ROC_int_01 1388.6553 [Mm-hm.] 1388.9424 1278 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1388.8491 [once] they told my mother. My mother had to 1391.1432 1279 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1391.4990 come to school and straighten it out. 1393.2520 1280 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1393.2520 (pause 0.73) 1393.9841 1281 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1393.9841 So 1394.4481 1282 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1394.4481 (pause 1.13) 1395.5759 1283 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1395.5759 and you didn't have a choice of where you go to high school. 1398.4786 1284 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1398.4786 (pause 0.61) 1399.0870 1285 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1399.0870 If you lived 1399.9397 1286 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1399.9397 (pause 0.07) 1400.0108 1287 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1400.0108 on the- 1400.9379 1288 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1400.9379 (pause 0.73) 1401.6635 1289 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1401.6635 I'd had to draw it at work. 1403.1278 1290 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1403.1278 (pause 0.53) 1403.6588 1291 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1403.6588 If you lived on the north side of the school, 1406.4481 1292 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1406.4481 (pause 1.11) 1407.5604 1293 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1407.5604 you went to Franklin. 1408.6483 1294 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1408.6483 (pause 0.75) 1409.3959 1295 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1409.3959 If you lived on the south side of the school, 1412.0099 1296 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1412.0099 (pause 0.35) 1412.3605 1297 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1412.3605 you went to East. 1413.4109 1298 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1413.4109 (pause 1.00) 1414.4059 1299 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1414.4059 And if you was 1415.3959 1300 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1415.3959 (pause 0.81) 1416.2105 1301 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1416.2105 a boy, 1416.9478 1302 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1416.9478 (pause 0.87) 1417.8191 1303 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1417.8191 you had a choice 1418.9895 1304 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1418.9895 (pause 0.57) 1419.5604 1305 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1419.5604 of going to, 1420.6483 1306 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1420.6483 (pause 0.65) 1421.3010 1307 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1421.3010 um, 1421.8393 1308 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1421.8393 (pause 0.13) 1421.9652 1309 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1421.9652 the school 1422.8034 1310 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1422.8034 (pause 0.98) 1423.7882 1311 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1423.7882 on whatever side of the building, 1425.2923 1312 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1425.2923 (pause 0.82) 1426.1172 1313 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1426.1172 or you could go to 1427.3701 1314 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1427.3701 (pause 0.63) 1427.9991 1315 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1427.9991 Edison Tech 1429.3035 1316 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1429.3035 (pause 0.59) 1429.8964 1317 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1429.8964 or Paul Revere 1431.2000 1318 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1431.2000 (pause 0.19) 1431.3902 1319 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1431.3902 Trade Schools. 1432.4627 1320 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1432.4627 (pause 0.10) 1432.5658 1321 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1432.5658 They used to be on Clifford Avenue 1434.6178 1322 ROC_int_01 1435.2032 Mm. 1435.5477 1323 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1436.1645 near Joseph Avenue, 1437.7563 1324 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1437.7563 (pause 0.21) 1437.9639 1325 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1437.9639 big- 1438.3326 1326 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1438.3326 (pause 0.22) 1438.5539 1327 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1438.5539 took the whole block from 1440.0507 1328 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1440.0507 (pause 0.69) 1440.7415 1329 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1440.7415 Hudson Avenue 1441.9222 1330 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1441.9222 (pause 0.47) 1442.3914 1331 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1442.3914 to- um, 1443.3902 1332 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1443.3902 (pause 0.84) 1444.2306 1333 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1444.2306 I don't remember the name of the street, but it's a street 1447.0303 1334 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1447.0303 (pause 0.12) 1447.1488 1335 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1447.1488 before you get to Joseph Avenue. 1449.0757 1336 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1449.0757 (pause 0.23) 1449.3026 1337 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1449.3026 It was a huge school, and it was all boys. 1451.8135 1338 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1451.8135 (pause 0.57) 1452.3806 1339 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1452.3806 So they w- 1452.9822 1340 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1452.9822 (pause 0.10) 1453.0788 1341 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1453.0788 their boys 1453.8397 1342 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1453.8397 (pause 0.34) 1454.1800 1343 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1454.1800 like 1454.5100 1344 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1454.5100 (pause 0.55) 1455.0565 1345 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1455.0565 that- 1455.4573 1346 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1455.4573 (pause 0.73) 1456.1894 1347 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1456.1894 they may not have been able to 1457.8180 1348 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1457.8180 (pause 0.10) 1457.9141 1349 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1457.9141 teach them 1458.7828 1350 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1458.7828 (pause 0.83) 1459.6129 1351 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1459.6129 to grade level. I don't know. 1461.2000 1352 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1461.2000 (pause 0.60) 1461.8027 1353 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1461.8027 But 1462.1618 1354 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1462.1618 (pause 0.10) 1462.2617 1355 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1462.2617 that was the choices they had. 1464.0655 1356 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1464.0655 (pause 0.16) 1464.2293 1357 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1464.2293 You either go to 1465.3138 1358 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1465.3138 (pause 1.11) 1466.4251 1359 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1466.4251 Edison, 1467.2000 1360 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1467.2000 (pause 0.13) 1467.3293 1361 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1467.3293 or you go to Paul Revere. 1468.9318 1362 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1468.9318 (pause 0.58) 1469.5144 1363 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1469.5144 My cousin went to Paul Revere, and he learned tailoring, 1472.7987 1364 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1472.7987 (pause 1.28) 1474.0811 1365 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1474.0811 and a lot of 'em did. 1475.4062 1366 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1475.4062 (pause 0.24) 1475.6433 1367 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1475.6433 They took up tailoring. 1476.8962 1368 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1476.8962 (pause 0.56) 1477.4530 1369 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1477.4530 They didn't have computers back then, and I often wonder, why did they call that Edison Technical? 1482.2620 1370 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1482.2620 (pause 0.73) 1482.9942 1371 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1482.9942 What technical stuff did we have back then, you know? (laughing) 1486.1172 1372 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1486.1172 (pause 0.94) 1487.0607 1373 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1487.0607 So maybe- maybe I got the name wrong. Maybe they just been calling it that in the last forty years or so. 1493.5041 1374 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1493.5041 (pause 0.13) 1493.6330 1375 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1493.6330 I don't know. 1494.2105 1376 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1494.2105 (pause 0.63) 1494.8395 1377 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1494.8395 But that was 1495.5355 1378 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1495.5355 (pause 0.71) 1496.2419 1379 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1496.2419 what you did. 1496.9637 1380 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1496.9637 (pause 0.36) 1497.3284 1381 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1497.3284 And you walked. 1498.1636 1382 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1498.1636 (pause 0.74) 1498.9009 1383 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1498.9009 There was no school buses. 1500.3703 1384 ROC_int_01 1500.6554 [Mm.] 1501.1423 1385 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1501.0750 [You] get up, and you get 1502.5719 1386 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1503.0359 to school. 1503.8440 1387 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1503.8440 (pause 1.13) 1504.9731 1388 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1504.9731 I lived on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street. You know where 1507.2571 1389 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1507.2571 (pause 0.27) 1507.5252 1390 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1507.5252 /RD-ADDRESS-4/? 1508.6698 1391 ROC_int_01 1508.9623 Yeah. 1509.2974 1392 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1510.2152 I lived 1510.7050 1393 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1510.7050 (pause 0.43) 1511.1381 1394 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1511.1381 like 1511.5176 1395 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1511.5176 (pause 0.08) 1511.6024 1396 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1511.6024 w- 1511.6931 1397 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1511.6931 (pause 0.10) 1511.7944 1398 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1511.7944 cross the street there where the /RD-ADDRESS-4/ 1514.1903 1399 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1514.1903 (pause 0.50) 1514.6904 1400 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1514.6904 plant is, 1515.4985 1401 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1515.4985 (pause 1.02) 1516.5194 1402 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1516.5194 and I had to walk to /RD-SCHOOL-1/ High School 1518.6745 1403 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1518.6745 (pause 0.69) 1519.3602 1404 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1519.3602 on 1519.9119 1405 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1519.9119 (pause 0.23) 1520.1439 1406 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1520.1439 /RD-ADDRESS-4/ and /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Street. 1522.0399 1407 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1522.0399 (pause 1.42) 1523.4629 1408 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1523.4629 And that was a long walk. 1524.8389 1409 ROC_int_01 1524.8441 Mm-hm. 1525.3582 1410 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1525.8810 But you had to do it, and you didn't think anything of it. 1528.5214 1411 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1528.5214 (pause 0.10) 1528.6184 1412 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1528.6184 You just did it 1529.4629 1413 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1529.4629 (pause 0.34) 1529.8032 1414 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1529.8032 cause that's all we knew. 1530.9581 1415 ROC_int_01 1531.2726 [Mm-hm.] 1531.8294 1416 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1531.6644 [And parents] didn't 1532.6337 1417 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1532.9070 drive us. 1533.8697 1418 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1533.8697 (pause 0.56) 1534.4317 1419 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1534.4317 We didn't have school buses. 1536.0146 1420 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1536.0146 (pause 0.24) 1536.2517 1421 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1536.2517 Who could afford 1537.1240 1422 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1537.1240 (pause 0.08) 1537.2053 1423 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1537.2053 bus e- 1537.7057 1424 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1537.7057 (pause 0.18) 1537.8810 1425 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1537.8810 bus fare. 1538.6853 1426 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1538.6853 (pause 0.80) 1539.4831 1427 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1539.4831 And 1539.9883 1428 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1539.9883 (pause 0.41) 1540.4008 1429 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1540.4008 I don't even know if- 1541.6949 1430 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1541.6949 (pause 1.52) 1543.2107 1431 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1543.2107 I don't even know about bus- I think that never came up. 1546.3389 1432 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1546.3389 (pause 0.16) 1546.4987 1433 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1546.4987 I don't think it ever came up. 1547.9063 1434 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1547.9063 (pause 0.74) 1548.6436 1435 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1548.6436 You just got up and got ready for school, and you left home and went to school. 1552.9370 1436 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1552.9370 (pause 0.87) 1553.8032 1437 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1553.8032 And 1554.2053 1438 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1554.2053 (pause 0.42) 1554.6230 1439 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1554.6230 I had a friend /RD-NAME-1/. 1556.0202 1440 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1556.0202 (pause 0.67) 1556.6853 1441 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1556.6853 /RD-NAME-1/ and I were friends from 1558.4575 1442 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1558.4575 (pause 0.20) 1558.6534 1443 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1558.6534 fifth grade. 1559.4371 1444 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1559.4371 (pause 0.56) 1559.9939 1445 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1559.9939 She has 1560.7467 1446 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1560.7467 (pause 0.57) 1561.3138 1447 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1561.3138 Alzheimer's now, but she remembers me. 1563.7563 1448 ROC_int_01 1563.7847 Mm. 1564.1479 1449 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1564.4008 And she remembers that I gave her her books 1567.1540 1450 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1567.1540 (pause 0.69) 1567.8397 1451 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1567.8397 when she came to the classroom. 1569.7769 1452 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1569.7769 (pause 0.56) 1570.3389 1453 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1570.3389 I was the one that 1571.2463 1454 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1571.2463 (pause 0.82) 1572.0661 1455 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1572.0661 gave her all her books. She can remember that. 1574.3605 1456 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1574.3605 (pause 0.44) 1574.7987 1457 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1574.7987 So /RD-NAME-1/ and I, we walked to school 1576.9576 1458 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1576.9576 (pause 0.64) 1577.5969 1459 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1577.5969 in high school. But she dropped out cause she got 1580.4275 1460 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1580.4275 (pause 0.37) 1580.7936 1461 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1580.7936 pregnant 1581.2974 1462 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1581.2974 (pause 0.52) 1581.8130 1463 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1581.8130 which was unheard of back then. 1583.9991 1464 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1583.9991 (pause 0.54) 1584.5353 1465 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1584.5353 But, 1584.8018 1466 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1584.8018 (pause 0.28) 1585.0806 1467 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1585.0806 um, 1585.4983 1468 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1585.4983 (pause 0.14) 1585.6398 1469 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1585.6398 we're still friends. 1586.7729 1470 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1586.7729 (pause 0.41) 1587.1789 1471 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1587.1789 She- 1587.7414 1472 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1587.7414 (pause 0.08) 1587.8226 1473 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1587.8226 she recognized me a little bit, but 1589.8754 1474 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1589.8754 (pause 0.57) 1590.4477 1475 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1590.4477 I go up take her to 1591.5819 1476 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1591.5819 (pause 0.47) 1592.0563 1477 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1592.0563 get her nails done or s- 1593.6899 1478 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1593.6899 (pause 0.08) 1593.7736 1479 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1593.7736 take her for lunch, something like that. 1595.4680 1480 ROC_int_01 1595.4833 [Mm-hm.] 1596.0923 1481 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1595.9269 [She-] 1596.4322 1482 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1596.7261 she recognize me, but I have to refresh her sometime. 1600.3905 1483 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1600.3905 (pause 0.61) 1601.0040 1484 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1601.0040 But she looks good. 1601.8857 1485 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1601.8857 (pause 0.89) 1602.7725 1486 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1602.7725 And she was born 1603.8088 1487 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1603.8088 (pause 0.59) 1604.4017 1488 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1604.4017 the seventeenth of February, 1606.4369 1489 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1606.4369 (pause 0.34) 1606.7772 1490 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1606.7772 and I was born the twenty-sixth. 1608.6230 1491 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1608.6230 (pause 0.70) 1609.3190 1492 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1609.3190 So 1609.8707 1493 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1609.8707 (pause 0.99) 1610.8606 1494 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1610.8606 we were like sisters. 1612.1852 1495 ROC_int_01 1612.2415 [Mm-hm.] 1612.6646 1496 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1612.5913 [We'd] stay at her house, 1614.1383 1497 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1615.2571 or we'd stay at my house. 1616.7936 1498 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1616.7936 (pause 0.95) 1617.7460 1499 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1617.7460 And that's the way we grew up, 1619.5351 1500 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1619.5351 (pause 0.77) 1620.3033 1501 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1620.3033 so we grew up like sisters. 1622.1852 1502 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1622.1852 (pause 1.30) 1623.4882 1503 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1623.4882 I talk a lot. You [have to excuse me.] 1626.0610 1504 ROC_int_01 1624.8081 [No, this is good. I love] it. 1626.3711 1505 ROC_int_01 1626.5036 [] 1627.0664 1506 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1626.6642 [/But/ you] have to excuse me. 1628.7428 1507 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1629.3438 Oh, and, uh, I remember that 1631.4474 1508 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1631.4474 (pause 1.12) 1632.5714 1509 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1632.5714 I wanted a pair of heels, 1634.1491 1510 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1634.1491 (pause 0.95) 1635.0951 1511 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1635.0951 and my 1635.6893 1512 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1635.6893 (pause 0.20) 1635.8904 1513 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1635.8904 mother wouldn't 1636.7811 1514 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1636.7811 (pause 0.06) 1636.8441 1515 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1636.8441 allow that. 1637.4784 1516 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1637.4784 (pause 0.41) 1637.8857 1517 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1637.8857 I couldn't have- 1638.6745 1518 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1638.6745 (pause 0.28) 1638.9529 1519 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1638.9529 by this time my grandmother had died, 1640.9482 1520 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1640.9482 (pause 0.97) 1641.9161 1521 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1641.9161 so I had to live with my mother. 1643.5248 1522 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1643.5248 (pause 0.13) 1643.6588 1523 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1643.6588 She 1644.3497 1524 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1644.3497 (pause 0.62) 1644.9684 1525 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1644.9684 didn't want me to wear heels, 1646.5925 1526 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1646.5925 (pause 0.70) 1647.2974 1527 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1647.2974 and 1647.7048 1528 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1647.7048 (pause 0.93) 1648.6380 1529 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1648.6380 Neisner's used to sell shoes and stuff, you know. 1652.0511 1530 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1652.0511 (pause 0.94) 1652.9932 1531 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1652.9932 And the heels I wanted was wedge. 1655.1587 1532 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1655.1587 (pause 0.65) 1655.8135 1533 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1655.8135 Oh boy, I wanted them shoes so bad. 1658.2367 1534 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1658.2367 (pause 0.47) 1658.7111 1535 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1658.7111 Now 1659.1118 1536 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1659.1118 (pause 0.89) 1660.0038 1537 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1660.0038 I wasn't gonna show you which one is me. I was gonna let you [guess.] 1663.5016 1538 ROC_int_01 1663.4594 [] 1664.2213 1539 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1664.4430 And my friend /RD-NAME-1/ got the wedge shoes, but I couldn't. 1667.5815 1540 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1667.5815 (pause 0.76) 1668.3371 1541 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1668.3371 1668.3931 1542 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1668.3931 (pause 0.45) 1668.8462 1543 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1668.8462 And I had to wear 1669.9068 1544 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1669.9068 (pause 0.20) 1670.1069 1545 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1670.1069 socks, 1670.8657 1546 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1670.8657 (pause 0.99) 1671.8594 1547 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1671.8594 and /RD-NAME-1/ wearing 1672.7823 1548 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1672.7823 (pause 0.94) 1673.7258 1549 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1673.7258 stockings, 1674.6126 1550 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1674.6126 (pause 0.34) 1674.9529 1551 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1674.9529 and I'm wearing socks, you know. 1676.5151 1552 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1676.5151 (pause 1.16) 1677.6790 1553 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1677.6790 /?/ 1677.9729 1554 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1677.9729 (pause 1.41) 1679.3856 1555 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1679.3856 S- 1679.6227 1556 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1679.6227 (pause 1.39) 1681.0148 1557 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1681.0148 sorry about that. 1682.0666 1558 ROC_int_01 1682.7251 /You're good/. 1683.2871 1559 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1683.5140 I'm kind of clumsy sometime. 1685.2773 1560 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1685.2773 (pause 1.08) 1686.3600 1561 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1686.3600 So somebody gave me a pair of 1688.2213 1562 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1688.2213 (pause 0.35) 1688.5667 1563 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1688.5667 shoes, and it had a heel on it. 1690.4730 1564 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1690.4730 (pause 0.68) 1691.1484 1565 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1691.1484 Now the heel was probably not one inch, 1693.3293 1566 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1693.3293 (pause 0.96) 1694.2934 1567 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1694.2934 you know. It's just i- probably a little shoe like that. 1697.2797 1568 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1697.2797 (pause 0.07) 1697.3503 1569 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1697.3503 [] 1698.4373 1570 ROC_int_01 1697.5763 [] 1698.9735 1571 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1699.0870 If- 1699.3138 1572 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1699.3138 (pause 0.31) 1699.6232 1573 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1699.6232 if it was that high. 1700.8348 1574 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1700.8348 (pause 0.41) 1701.2407 1575 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1701.2407 And I would 1701.8506 1576 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1701.8506 (pause 0.08) 1701.9356 1577 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1701.9356 take that- 1702.5721 1578 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1702.5721 (pause 0.15) 1702.7259 1579 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1702.7259 take them shoes to school with me, 1704.9323 1580 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1704.9323 (pause 0.79) 1705.7263 1581 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1705.7263 and change 'em on my way there. 1707.5655 1582 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1707.5655 (pause 1.17) 1708.7359 1583 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1708.7359 But by the time I get to school, my feet was hurting so [bad], (laughing) 1712.9225 1584 ROC_int_01 1712.6462 [Oh], [/kay/] 1713.7666 1585 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1713.4315 [I'd take] the shoes off. 1714.9370 1586 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1715.2515 I think I finally gave 'em to somebody. I thought, 1717.8604 1587 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1717.8604 (pause 0.43) 1718.2883 1588 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1718.2883 my mother was right. I wasn't ready for 1720.5245 1589 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1720.5245 (pause 0.21) 1720.7308 1590 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1720.7308 heels. 1721.3082 1591 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1721.3082 (pause 0.58) 1721.8908 1592 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1721.8908 And they weren't even heels. [] 1724.2419 1593 ROC_int_01 1723.5201 [] 1724.4275 1594 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1724.5564 They probably about this high. I don't know. 1727.0143 1595 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1727.0143 (pause 0.85) 1727.8599 1596 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1727.8599 So 1728.3961 1597 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1728.3961 (pause 0.85) 1729.2417 1598 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1729.2417 and like I say, 1730.3983 1599 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1730.3983 (pause 0.07) 1730.4671 1600 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1730.4671 um, 1730.9555 1601 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1730.9555 (pause 0.06) 1731.0204 1602 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1731.0204 we didn't have babysitters. We did what our parents told us to do. 1734.9375 1603 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1734.9375 (pause 1.09) 1736.0225 1604 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1736.0225 And with my mother, 1737.0036 1605 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1737.0036 (pause 0.48) 1737.4831 1606 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1737.4831 I either had to stay in the house- 1739.0865 1607 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1739.0865 (pause 0.34) 1739.4268 1608 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1739.4268 and she did day work. 1740.5662 1609 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1740.5662 (pause 0.50) 1741.0664 1610 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1741.0664 She got five dollars a day in bus fare. 1743.5295 1611 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1743.5295 (pause 0.92) 1744.4472 1612 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1744.4472 I remember /our/ rent was 1745.8865 1613 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1745.8865 (pause 0.11) 1745.9978 1614 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1745.9978 twenty dollars a month. 1747.4943 1615 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1747.4943 (pause 0.15) 1747.6438 1616 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1747.6438 1748.7575 1617 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1748.7575 (pause 0.34) 1749.0977 1618 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1749.0977 Isn't that [something?] 1750.0863 1619 ROC_int_01 1750.0089 [Mm-hm.] 1750.6844 1620 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1750.8390 Twenty [dollars a month.] 1752.2976 1621 ROC_int_01 1751.6073 [Good old day- ] 1752.8911 1622 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1752.5592 [We had] a two bedroom apartment too. 1754.9740 1623 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1755.8130 And back then it wasn't a lot of single houses. White people had 1759.2829 1624 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1759.2829 (pause 0.51) 1759.7882 1625 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1759.7882 all the single houses. 1761.1170 1626 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1761.1170 (pause 0.53) 1761.6480 1627 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1761.6480 And we lived 1762.3905 1628 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1762.3905 (pause 0.30) 1762.6947 1629 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1762.6947 in apartment houses 1764.1939 1630 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1764.1939 (pause 0.26) 1764.4502 1631 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1764.4502 or up over stores. 1765.9841 1632 ROC_int_01 1766.1645 Mm. 1766.5255 1633 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1766.8179 So 1767.2717 1634 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1767.2717 (pause 0.75) 1768.0244 1635 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1768.0244 they didn't have, 1768.8390 1636 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1768.8390 (pause 0.58) 1769.4165 1637 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1769.4165 uh, projects 1770.5817 1638 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1770.5817 (pause 1.10) 1771.6851 1639 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1771.6851 and, 1772.0127 1640 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1772.0127 (pause 0.08) 1772.0898 1641 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1772.0898 uh, 1772.5925 1642 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1772.5925 (pause 0.41) 1772.9984 1643 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1772.9984 townhouses and 1774.3595 1644 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1774.3595 (pause 0.95) 1775.3082 1645 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1775.3082 apartment buildings and stuff. They didn't have all that back then. 1778.6389 1646 ROC_int_01 1778.7059 Mm, so [like the] Hanover houses, [they /unintelligible/] 1781.9372 1647 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1779.4160 [S-] 1779.5862 1648 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1779.5862 (pause 1.17) 1780.7514 1649 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1780.7514 [That wasn't built.] 1781.7877 1650 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1782.2311 That [wasn't built.] 1783.1334 1651 ROC_int_01 1782.4683 [after that.] [/Okay/.] 1783.4840 1652 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1783.3963 [And] they had the reunion last Sunday, and I missed it. 1786.3956 1653 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1787.2618 I missed the Hanover 1788.6900 1654 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1788.6900 (pause 0.59) 1789.2829 1655 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1789.2829 picnic last [Sunday.] 1790.6334 1656 ROC_int_01 1790.5612 [Man.] 1791.0458 1657 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1791.3604 That woulda been such a thrill to be there, and I missed it. I went to a- 1795.1485 1658 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1795.1485 (pause 0.53) 1795.6795 1659 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1795.6795 a cookout some, 1796.7674 1660 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1796.7674 (pause 0.64) 1797.4068 1661 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1797.4068 uh, 1797.8295 1662 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1797.8295 (pause 0.64) 1798.4726 1663 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1798.4726 1798.6118 1664 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1798.6118 (pause 0.53) 1799.1377 1665 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1799.1377 fam- you know the /RD-NAME-2/? 1800.5710 1666 ROC_int_01 1801.4166 [Mm-] 1801.7878 1667 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1801.5816 [They go] to Mount Vernon. 1802.7056 1668 ROC_int_01 1803.2418 Think I [know.] 1803.7831 1669 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1803.7264 [Oh], they w- had a big cookout 1805.7925 1670 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1806.0194 honoring their mother's death. 1807.4166 1671 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1807.4166 (pause 1.08) 1808.4942 1672 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1808.4942 And it's been two years, 1809.9275 1673 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1809.9275 (pause 0.47) 1810.4018 1674 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1810.4018 and they- um, 1811.3336 1675 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1811.3336 (pause 0.24) 1811.5708 1676 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1811.5708 they invited just about everybody they knew. 1814.0456 1677 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1814.0456 (pause 0.90) 1814.9479 1678 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1814.9479 So, 1815.4765 1679 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1815.4765 (pause 0.10) 1815.5745 1680 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1815.5745 um, 1816.1183 1681 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1816.1183 (pause 0.43) 1816.5489 1682 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1816.5489 1816.5980 1683 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1816.5980 (pause 0.47) 1817.0707 1684 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1817.0707 but 1817.4161 1685 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1817.4161 (pause 0.60) 1818.0142 1686 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1818.0142 sometimes 1819.0041 1687 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1819.0041 (pause 0.76) 1819.7672 1688 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1819.7672 with no babysitter, I guess my mother would l- 1822.0750 1689 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1822.0750 (pause 0.12) 1822.1980 1690 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1822.1980 feel sorry for me, 1823.4522 1691 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1823.4522 (pause 0.54) 1823.9936 1692 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1823.9936 and I could go to what they call the Lutheran intermission. 1827.2315 1693 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1827.2315 (pause 1.07) 1828.2973 1694 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1828.2973 And it was over on Clinton Avenue. It was a long walk 1831.8889 1695 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1831.8889 (pause 0.07) 1831.9561 1696 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1831.9561 cause you had to go, 1832.7674 1697 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1832.7674 (pause 0.75) 1833.5202 1698 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1833.5202 um, 1834.0873 1699 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1834.0873 (pause 1.06) 1835.1429 1700 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1835.1429 through downtown, 1836.3597 1701 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1836.3597 (pause 0.75) 1837.1073 1702 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1837.1073 and 1837.5610 1703 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1837.5610 (pause 0.49) 1838.0559 1704 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1838.0559 it was just a long walk. 1839.5408 1705 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1839.5408 (pause 0.67) 1840.2111 1706 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1840.2111 But 1840.5049 1707 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1840.5049 (pause 0.39) 1840.8954 1708 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1840.8954 like I say, we did it. 1842.2158 1709 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1842.2158 (pause 0.14) 1842.3522 1710 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1842.3522 We walked. We didn't know anything different. 1844.5303 1711 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1844.5303 (pause 0.74) 1845.2727 1712 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1845.2727 It didn't matter how long it took us 1847.0913 1713 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1847.0913 (pause 0.42) 1847.5141 1714 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1847.5141 to get there or to get back home. 1849.3754 1715 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1849.3754 (pause 0.31) 1849.6899 1716 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1849.6899 We walked. 1850.3911 1717 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1850.3911 (pause 0.44) 1850.8293 1718 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1850.8293 Let me tell you a funny story about the first time 1853.4316 1719 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1853.4316 (pause 0.52) 1853.9472 1720 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1853.9472 I went over there. 1855.0815 1721 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1855.0815 (pause 0.77) 1855.8548 1722 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1855.8548 I had to cross, 1857.1283 1723 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1857.1283 (pause 1.09) 1858.2162 1724 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1858.2162 um, 1858.7000 1725 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1858.7000 (pause 0.72) 1859.4161 1726 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1859.4161 downtown where the Water Street 1861.7053 1727 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1861.7053 (pause 0.77) 1862.4735 1728 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1862.4735 Grill. 1863.0974 1729 ROC_int_01 1863.3314 Yeah. 1863.5904 1730 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1863.6199 I can't think of the name of that street, 1865.3594 1731 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1865.3594 (pause 0.76) 1866.1225 1732 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1866.1225 but there's a bridge there. 1867.5919 1733 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1867.5919 (pause 0.51) 1868.0972 1734 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1868.0972 Is it 1868.4087 1735 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1868.4087 (pause 0.15) 1868.5612 1736 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1868.5612 Cumberland Street? 1869.5769 1737 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1869.5769 (pause 0.25) 1869.8244 1738 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1869.8244 I don't know. 1870.4417 1739 ROC_int_01 1870.4726 I- yeah, I [don't remember the name.] 1871.9781 1740 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1871.1429 [It might be Water] Street. I don't know what the [name of it is.] 1874.5303 1741 ROC_int_01 1873.9116 [I know] 1874.4389 1742 ROC_int_01 1874.4389 (pause 0.07) 1874.5042 1743 ROC_int_01 1874.5042 [the] [area.] 1875.1561 1744 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1875.1296 [Okay.] 1875.5499 1745 ROC_int_01 1875.5721 Yeah. 1875.8984 1746 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1876.0962 There was a bridge crossing the river. 1878.0400 1747 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1878.0400 (pause 0.91) 1878.9474 1748 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1878.9474 The first time 1880.0817 1749 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1880.0817 (pause 0.83) 1880.9118 1750 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1880.9118 I went there, 1881.8502 1751 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1881.8502 (pause 0.74) 1882.5912 1752 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1882.5912 I was scared to death. 1884.6020 1753 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1884.6020 (pause 0.33) 1884.9330 1754 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1884.9330 I could not 1885.7995 1755 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1885.7995 (pause 0.08) 1885.8817 1756 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1885.8817 walk 1886.4119 1757 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1886.4119 (pause 0.08) 1886.4940 1758 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1886.4940 over that bridge. I had never 1888.4792 1759 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1888.4792 (pause 0.28) 1888.7614 1760 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1888.7614 been on a [bridge], 1890.0402 1761 ROC_int_01 1889.9451 [Mm.] 1890.3259 1762 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1891.4733 and I crawled. 1892.6952 1763 ROC_int_01 1893.1386 1893.5717 1764 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1893.6372 And the kids laughed at me, 1895.9054 1765 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1895.9054 (pause 0.51) 1896.4196 1766 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1896.4196 and I cried all the way cross that bridge. 1899.3747 1767 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1899.3747 (pause 0.75) 1900.1226 1768 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1900.1226 And when the- 1900.7511 1769 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1900.7511 (pause 0.10) 1900.8495 1770 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1900.8495 when I got to the mission 1902.5125 1771 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1902.5125 (pause 0.84) 1903.3481 1772 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1903.3481 and it was time to come back, 1904.8440 1773 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1904.8440 (pause 0.43) 1905.2706 1774 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1905.2706 I cried all the way 1906.7707 1775 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1906.7707 (pause 0.29) 1907.0570 1776 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1907.0570 cross that bridge again. 1908.8217 1777 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1908.8217 (pause 0.65) 1909.4703 1778 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1909.4703 And my mother 1910.2416 1779 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1910.2416 (pause 0.57) 1910.8084 1780 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1910.8084 went with me- no, my uncle, 1912.5131 1781 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1912.5131 (pause 0.27) 1912.7819 1782 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1912.7819 my mother's brother, 1913.8687 1783 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1913.8687 (pause 0.52) 1914.3888 1784 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1914.3888 he went with me the next time. 1916.3287 1785 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1916.3287 (pause 0.45) 1916.7787 1786 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1916.7787 And he held my hand, and he walked me cross that bridge 1920.2539 1787 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1920.2539 (pause 0.53) 1920.7856 1788 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1920.7856 And from then on, 1921.8432 1789 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1921.8432 (pause 0.80) 1922.6438 1790 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1922.6438 one of the friends that I walk with 1924.4841 1791 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1924.4841 (pause 0.15) 1924.6373 1792 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1924.6373 would hold my hand, 1925.7666 1793 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1925.7666 (pause 0.28) 1926.0474 1794 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1926.0474 and after a while I got used to it. 1927.9479 1795 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1927.9479 (pause 1.48) 1929.4321 1796 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1929.4321 And I was able to go. 1930.4839 1797 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1930.4839 (pause 1.03) 1931.5181 1798 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1931.5181 So that was my funny story. 1933.2000 1799 ROC_int_01 1933.4682 [//] 1934.1051 1800 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1933.7604 [But at] the mission, 1934.8940 1801 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1935.5192 um, 1936.0392 1802 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1936.0392 (pause 0.68) 1936.7229 1803 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1936.7229 they taught us, um, 1938.5226 1804 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1938.5226 (pause 1.47) 1939.9877 1805 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1939.9877 about the bible. 1941.0454 1806 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1941.0454 (pause 0.72) 1941.7641 1807 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1941.7641 We had 1942.2724 1808 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1942.2724 (pause 0.56) 1942.8276 1809 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1942.8276 what they call religious instruction. 1944.7909 1810 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1944.7909 (pause 0.91) 1945.7024 1811 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1945.7024 It was two words 1946.6666 1812 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1946.6666 (pause 0.16) 1946.8286 1813 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1946.8286 I was not familiar with, 1948.2076 1814 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1948.2076 (pause 0.39) 1948.5991 1815 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1948.5991 religious instruction. 1950.2188 1816 ROC_int_01 1950.2266 [] 1950.9189 1817 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1950.6773 [So] we got religious instruction. 1952.9582 1818 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1953.4884 We got a meal, 1954.5051 1819 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1954.5051 (pause 0.58) 1955.0836 1820 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1955.0836 and we could either go in they gym, 1957.2281 1821 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1957.2281 (pause 1.06) 1958.2857 1822 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1958.2857 the boys usually did that, 1959.8050 1823 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1959.8050 (pause 0.52) 1960.3293 1824 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1960.3293 or we could do crafty things. 1962.5497 1825 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1962.5497 (pause 0.29) 1962.8419 1826 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1962.8419 I think it was like 1963.9306 1827 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1963.9306 (pause 0.16) 1964.0892 1828 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1964.0892 boondoggle or something. 1965.6642 1829 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1965.6642 (pause 0.31) 1965.9739 1830 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1965.9739 I don't know what it was back then, but 1967.9766 1831 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1967.9766 (pause 0.37) 1968.3505 1832 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1968.3505 that's usually what the girls did. 1970.0334 1833 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1970.0334 (pause 0.50) 1970.5301 1834 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1970.5301 And when it was time to go home, 1972.0844 1835 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1972.0844 (pause 0.70) 1972.7856 1836 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1972.7856 we'd take that long walk back 1974.7532 1837 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1974.7532 (pause 0.54) 1975.2966 1838 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1975.2966 cause we s- like I said, we lived over on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ Street. 1978.2942 1839 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1978.2942 (pause 0.57) 1978.8610 1840 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1978.8610 And we were walking from 1980.2301 1841 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1980.2301 (pause 0.09) 1980.3165 1842 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1980.3165 past downtown, you know. 1982.0207 1843 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1982.0207 (pause 0.80) 1982.8212 1844 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1982.8212 But we did it. 1983.4756 1845 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1983.4756 (pause 1.22) 1984.6910 1846 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1984.6910 And, um, 1985.8422 1847 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1985.8422 (pause 0.47) 1986.3096 1848 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1986.3096 when I got a little older, 1987.7645 1849 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1987.7645 (pause 0.75) 1988.5183 1850 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1988.5183 I could stay out til the street lights came on, 1991.3406 1851 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1991.3406 (pause 0.88) 1992.2229 1852 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1992.2229 and I could 1992.7764 1853 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1992.7764 (pause 0.23) 1993.0043 1854 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1993.0043 sit outside on the curb, 1994.7924 1855 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1994.7924 (pause 0.79) 1995.5812 1856 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1995.5812 uh, 1996.1246 1857 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1996.1246 (pause 1.22) 1997.3459 1858 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 1997.3459 and there was a bakery called Stein's Bakery. 2000.4822 1859 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2000.4822 (pause 1.55) 2002.0365 1860 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2002.0365 And 2002.3871 1861 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2002.3871 (pause 0.50) 2002.8896 1862 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2002.8896 we would sit out there, 2004.2744 1863 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2004.2744 (pause 1.27) 2005.5483 1864 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2005.5483 and then sometimes the bakers would call us 2008.2580 1865 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2008.2580 (pause 0.42) 2008.6787 1866 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2008.6787 inside, 2009.4617 1867 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2009.4617 (pause 0.98) 2010.4375 1868 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2010.4375 and they would let us watch them 2012.3249 1869 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2012.3249 (pause 0.40) 2012.7222 1870 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2012.7222 cook 2013.2530 1871 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2013.2530 (pause 0.33) 2013.5796 1872 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2013.5796 what they call 2014.6665 1873 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2014.6665 (pause 0.53) 2015.1982 1874 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2015.1982 fry cakes. 2016.2150 1875 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2016.2150 (pause 0.95) 2017.1674 1876 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2017.1674 And 2017.5764 1877 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2017.5764 (pause 0.46) 2018.0381 1878 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2018.0381 I say doughnuts, but they said fry cakes. 2020.7361 1879 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2020.7361 (pause 0.71) 2021.4490 1880 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2021.4490 It was a big huge 2023.6519 1881 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2023.6519 (pause 0.37) 2024.0200 1882 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2024.0200 huge 2024.7446 1883 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2024.7446 (pause 1.32) 2026.0651 1884 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2026.0651 stove or whatever. 2027.6646 1885 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2027.6646 (pause 0.50) 2028.1671 1886 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2028.1671 And it was full of grease. 2029.5286 1887 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2029.5286 (pause 0.26) 2029.7916 1888 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2029.7916 The grease was just 2030.7031 1889 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2030.7031 (pause 0.25) 2030.9544 1890 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2030.9544 popping and bubbling. 2032.0588 1891 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2032.0588 (pause 0.41) 2032.4678 1892 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2032.4678 And the man had a long stick, 2034.2543 1893 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2034.2543 (pause 0.40) 2034.6575 1894 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2034.6575 and he would turn it- 2035.8203 1895 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2035.8203 (pause 0.50) 2036.3169 1896 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2036.3169 he'd turn those 2037.1980 1897 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2037.1980 (pause 0.06) 2037.2617 1898 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2037.2617 fry cakes over like a- 2038.9114 1899 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2038.9114 (pause 0.27) 2039.1852 1900 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2039.1852 a m- 2039.4717 1901 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2039.4717 (pause 0.17) 2039.6418 1902 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2039.6418 he was a master. 2040.8264 1903 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2040.8264 (pause 0.91) 2041.7321 1904 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2041.7321 And 2042.1444 1905 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2042.1444 (pause 0.19) 2042.3296 1906 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2042.3296 he'd s- 2042.6469 1907 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2042.6469 (pause 0.28) 2042.9247 1908 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2042.9247 take the stick, and he'd go through 'em when they were done, 2045.6646 1909 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2045.6646 (pause 0.37) 2046.0386 1910 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2046.0386 put 'em in a bag, and he'd give us a bag. Each one of us would get a bag. 2049.4904 1911 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2049.4904 (pause 0.27) 2049.7592 1912 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2049.7592 It was so much grease on them [bags.] (laughing) 2053.3820 1913 ROC_int_01 2051.8861 [] 2052.1374 1914 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2054.1108 But we would 2054.9791 1915 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2054.9791 (pause 0.15) 2055.1252 1916 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2055.1252 eat 'em. We'd take them home, 2056.9916 1917 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2056.9916 (pause 0.96) 2057.9557 1918 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2057.9557 and we'd eat 'em. 2058.8327 1919 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2058.8327 (pause 0.27) 2059.1045 1920 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2059.1045 And we would sit out there all the time hoping this would be the night they'd call us in again. (laughing) [] 2065.0245 1921 ROC_int_01 2064.6038 [Mm-hm.] 2065.2816 1922 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2065.7082 So we enjoyed the little greasy fry cakes as they called 'em. 2069.7501 1923 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2069.7501 (pause 0.56) 2070.3053 1924 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2070.3053 We call them doughnuts now. 2072.1459 1925 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2072.1459 (pause 0.28) 2072.4264 1926 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2072.4264 I think some people probably call them fry cakes, don't they? 2075.3698 1927 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2075.3698 (pause 0.47) 2075.8431 1928 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2075.8431 [You've heard that] [term, haven't you?] 2077.3989 1929 ROC_int_01 2075.9892 [Yeah.] 2076.3792 1930 ROC_int_01 2076.3792 (pause 0.16) 2076.5407 1931 ROC_int_01 2076.5407 [I've heard that term], [yeah.] 2077.8415 1932 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2077.6605 [Yeah.] 2077.9856 1933 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2078.9342 So and then years later, 2080.7573 1934 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2080.7573 (pause 0.68) 2081.4336 1935 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2081.4336 um, 2081.9770 1936 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2081.9770 (pause 0.33) 2082.3042 1937 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2082.3042 I could go to Baden Street Settlement, 2084.1257 1938 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2084.1257 (pause 0.19) 2084.3132 1939 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2084.3132 but /now/ I don't remember how old I was. 2086.1608 1940 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2086.1608 (pause 0.92) 2087.0840 1941 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2087.0840 But 2087.4612 1942 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2087.4612 (pause 0.08) 2087.5387 1943 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2087.5387 I had to d- of course I had to be home at a certain time. 2090.7169 1944 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2090.7169 (pause 0.80) 2091.5175 1945 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2091.5175 And then they used to have dance contests there. 2094.4800 1946 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2094.4800 (pause 0.68) 2095.1563 1947 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2095.1563 I never learned how to dance, 2096.9545 1948 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2096.9545 (pause 0.12) 2097.0754 1949 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2097.0754 but I love 2098.4903 1950 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2098.4903 (pause 0.06) 2098.5544 1951 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2098.5544 watching them dance. 2099.9244 1952 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2099.9244 (pause 0.18) 2100.0997 1953 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2100.0997 Oh, that was just the joy. 2101.9212 1954 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2101.9212 (pause 0.85) 2102.7743 1955 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2102.7743 And they had, 2103.5700 1956 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2103.5700 (pause 0.08) 2103.6486 1957 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2103.6486 um, 2104.1650 1958 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2104.1650 (pause 0.58) 2104.7493 1959 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2104.7493 other activities too, but 2106.4381 1960 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2106.4381 (pause 0.58) 2107.0224 1961 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2107.0224 the most popular was the basketball games in the gym. 2110.6904 1962 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2110.6904 (pause 0.83) 2111.5201 1963 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2111.5201 And the 2111.9759 1964 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2111.9759 (pause 0.81) 2112.7881 1965 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2112.7881 boys would have names for they team, 2115.6848 1966 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2115.6848 (pause 0.65) 2116.3393 1967 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2116.3393 but the most popular names was 2118.6474 1968 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2118.6474 (pause 1.10) 2119.7459 1969 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2119.7459 the Whiz Kids. 2120.9496 1970 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2120.9496 (pause 0.71) 2121.6609 1971 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2121.6609 And my husband was a member of the Whiz kids, 2124.2306 1972 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2124.2306 (pause 0.12) 2124.3496 1973 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2124.3496 and they were the older boys. 2125.8914 1974 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2125.8914 (pause 0.50) 2126.3940 1975 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2126.3940 Then they had another 2127.7176 1976 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2127.7176 (pause 0.08) 2127.7929 1977 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2127.7929 like 2128.0360 1978 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2128.0360 (pause 0.08) 2128.1174 1979 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2128.1174 intermediate age I guess. 2129.9042 1980 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2129.9042 (pause 0.50) 2130.4067 1981 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2130.4067 They were the Gaylords, 2131.7916 1982 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2131.7916 (pause 1.01) 2132.8025 1983 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2132.8025 and 2133.3284 1984 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2133.3284 (pause 1.65) 2134.9762 1985 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2134.9762 the Gaylords, 2135.9446 1986 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2135.9446 (pause 0.48) 2136.4296 1987 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2136.4296 I think it might be a few of them still around 2138.8868 1988 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2138.8868 (pause 0.15) 2139.0364 1989 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2139.0364 cause they were younger than me. 2140.2277 1990 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2140.2277 (pause 0.81) 2141.0399 1991 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2141.0399 But the Whiz Kids, 2142.5108 1992 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2142.5108 (pause 0.39) 2142.8965 1993 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2142.8965 I think they're all gone except one, 2144.9416 1994 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2144.9416 (pause 0.21) 2145.1520 1995 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2145.1520 /RD-NAME-4/ who still has his good mind. 2148.1963 1996 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2148.1963 (pause 0.30) 2148.4944 1997 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2148.4944 He lives on /RD-ADDRESS-3/ Road. 2150.0237 1998 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2150.0237 (pause 0.72) 2150.7424 1999 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2150.7424 So I- 2151.2346 2000 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2151.2346 (pause 0.13) 2151.3683 2001 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2151.3683 I wave at him him every time I go over there cause he sits on his porch 2154.9613 2002 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2154.9613 (pause 0.36) 2155.3177 2003 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2155.3177 when he's not at the barber shop somewhere. 2157.5132 2004 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2157.5132 (pause 0.73) 2158.2436 2005 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2158.2436 He likes to go to the barber shop and 2160.0843 2006 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2160.0843 (pause 0.44) 2160.5284 2007 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2160.5284 chew the rag he call it, you [know.] 2162.2315 2008 ROC_int_01 2162.1555 [Mm-hm.] 2162.8342 2009 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2162.9868 He used to be on 2164.1671 2010 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2164.1671 (pause 0.39) 2164.5528 2011 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2164.5528 Jefferson all the time. It got a little too violent for him, so 2167.9828 2012 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2167.9828 (pause 0.34) 2168.3276 2013 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2168.3276 I don't know what barber shop he go to now, but 2170.7276 2014 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2170.7276 (pause 0.26) 2170.9905 2015 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2170.9905 that's what he likes to do. 2172.2468 2016 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2172.2468 (pause 0.47) 2172.7201 2017 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2172.7201 He was one of the Whiz kids. 2174.1809 2018 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2174.1809 (pause 0.34) 2174.5199 2019 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2174.5199 He wasn't tall. 2175.6827 2020 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2175.6827 (pause 0.34) 2176.0216 2021 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2176.0216 He was short, 2176.8205 2022 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2176.8205 (pause 0.29) 2177.1069 2023 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2177.1069 but he could play basketball. (laughing) 2179.9759 2024 ROC_int_01 2180.2213 [Nice.] 2180.7940 2025 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2180.7005 [So] maybe next time you have a proje- well you won't do the same project again, will you? 2185.4027 2026 ROC_int_01 2185.8644 Yeah, but I- I m- 2186.9408 2027 ROC_int_01 2186.9408 (pause 0.07) 2187.0088 2028 ROC_int_01 2187.0088 I maybe coll- getting more interviews [later on down the] road. 2190.2869 2029 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2189.0080 [Oh, okay.] 2189.8721 2030 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2190.3512 Well, I'll s- 2191.0115 2031 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2191.0115 (pause 0.15) 2191.1634 2032 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2191.1634 I could make sure you, 2192.3905 2033 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2192.3905 (pause 0.88) 2193.2670 2034 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2193.2670 uh, meet /RD-NAME-2/. 2194.4516 2035 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2194.4516 (pause 1.08) 2195.5268 2036 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2195.5268 Uh, 2195.8598 2037 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2195.8598 (pause 0.22) 2196.0760 2038 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2196.0760 besides Baden Street, 2197.5894 2039 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2197.5894 (pause 0.40) 2197.9868 2040 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2197.9868 I could go to, 2199.0647 2041 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2199.0647 (pause 0.07) 2199.1347 2042 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2199.1347 um, 2199.6229 2043 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2199.6229 (pause 0.30) 2199.9193 2044 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2199.9193 St. Simon's Church 2201.6113 2045 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2201.6113 (pause 0.16) 2201.7674 2046 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2201.7674 on Oregon Street. 2203.0572 2047 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2203.0572 (pause 0.56) 2203.6181 2048 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2203.6181 And the church is still there. 2205.0439 2049 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2205.0439 (pause 0.45) 2205.4938 2050 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2205.4938 It was a Catholic church. None of us were Catholic. 2208.5308 2051 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2208.5308 (pause 0.84) 2209.3722 2052 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2209.3722 But the priest was Father Primo, 2211.5225 2053 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2211.5225 (pause 0.95) 2212.4691 2054 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2212.4691 and every Friday 2213.6962 2055 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2213.6962 (pause 0.20) 2213.8933 2056 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2213.8933 he'd have a dance, 2215.1204 2057 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2215.1204 (pause 0.32) 2215.4418 2058 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2215.4418 and we'd all go. 2216.5529 2059 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2216.5529 (pause 0.17) 2216.7263 2060 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2216.7263 Oh, girl, 2217.5512 2061 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2217.5512 (pause 0.75) 2218.2991 2062 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2218.2991 I had my 2218.9837 2063 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2218.9837 (pause 0.24) 2219.2249 2064 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2219.2249 circle skirt 2220.4070 2065 ROC_int_01 2220.6349 Yeah. 2221.0907 2066 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2221.2660 with all the crinolines on there. I remember that skirt. I would wear it every Friday. 2225.8471 2067 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2225.8471 (pause 0.41) 2226.2561 2068 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2226.2561 And it had 2227.0404 2069 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2227.0404 (pause 0.07) 2227.1095 2070 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2227.1095 like a carousel 2228.4984 2071 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2228.4984 (pause 0.81) 2229.3106 2072 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2229.3106 around it. 2229.9592 2073 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2229.9592 (pause 0.71) 2230.6721 2074 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2230.6721 I couldn't dance, but I could twirl. 2232.5968 2075 ROC_int_01 2232.7741 [Mm-hm.] 2233.3169 2076 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2233.0970 [And it-] 2233.4710 2077 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2234.2349 and the skirt would go out, you know. [It was-] 2236.7952 2078 ROC_int_01 2236.1982 [That sounds] [beautiful.] 2237.5772 2079 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2236.9790 [I was having] a ball. 2238.4479 2080 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2239.1462 And the- 2239.5581 2081 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2239.5581 (pause 0.13) 2239.6921 2082 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2239.6921 we had, um, 2240.8027 2083 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2240.8027 (pause 1.17) 2241.9698 2084 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2241.9698 um, 2242.5074 2085 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2242.5074 (pause 0.95) 2243.4598 2086 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2243.4598 airmen come cause Sampson Air Force Base was close by. 2247.7239 2087 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2247.7239 (pause 0.95) 2248.6705 2088 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2248.6705 And then we had 2249.6930 2089 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2249.6930 (pause 0.11) 2249.8041 2090 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2249.8041 sailors, which you don't see anymore. Do you ever see sailors? 2253.3509 2091 ROC_int_01 2253.3752 Mm-mm. 2254.0697 2092 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2254.2807 They used to look so nice in they white 2256.3995 2093 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2256.3995 (pause 0.64) 2257.0423 2094 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2257.0423 suits and they little bib on the back and they little sporty hat. 2260.9398 2095 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2260.9398 (pause 0.47) 2261.4057 2096 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2261.4057 And they would come there every Friday, /it was either/ 2263.7908 2097 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2263.7908 (pause 0.11) 2263.9004 2098 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2263.9004 airmen and the sailors and army. 2266.3724 2099 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2266.3724 (pause 0.72) 2267.0912 2100 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2267.0912 And I thought- 2267.7164 2101 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2267.7164 (pause 0.89) 2268.6030 2102 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2268.6030 as I got older, I went, where was the sailors coming from? 2271.8051 2103 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2271.8051 (pause 0.26) 2272.0681 2104 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2272.0681 We know where Sampson- 2273.5289 2105 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2273.5289 (pause 1.08) 2274.6040 2106 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2274.6040 uh, 2275.0210 2107 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2275.0210 (pause 0.15) 2275.1751 2108 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2275.1751 where the s- 2275.7010 2109 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2275.7010 (pause 0.41) 2276.1100 2110 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2276.1100 Air Force 2276.8171 2111 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2276.8171 (pause 0.63) 2277.4423 2112 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2277.4423 boys were coming from, 2278.7103 2113 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2278.7103 (pause 0.77) 2279.4816 2114 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2279.4816 but I couldn't remember where the sailors 2281.4683 2115 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2281.4683 (pause 0.42) 2281.8933 2116 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2281.8933 and the army 2282.6267 2117 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2282.6267 (pause 0.13) 2282.7580 2118 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2282.7580 guys came from. 2283.9735 2119 ROC_int_01 2284.1138 Hm. 2284.5495 2120 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2285.4285 It musta been something close by, 2287.4807 2121 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2287.4807 (pause 0.10) 2287.5766 2122 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2287.5766 you know. But 2288.4319 2123 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2288.4319 (pause 0.66) 2289.0907 2124 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2289.0907 even Sampson 2290.2768 2125 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2290.2768 (pause 0.93) 2291.2118 2126 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2291.2118 wasn't that close, but 2292.7110 2127 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2292.7110 (pause 0.08) 2292.7891 2128 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2292.7891 they would- 2293.2160 2129 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2293.2160 (pause 0.39) 2293.6075 2130 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2293.6075 they were here. 2294.4723 2131 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2294.4723 (pause 0.37) 2294.8404 2132 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2294.8404 They would come. 2295.5868 2133 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2295.5868 (pause 1.02) 2296.6094 2134 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2296.6094 So 2297.0827 2135 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2297.0827 (pause 0.36) 2297.4450 2136 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2297.4450 S- St. Simon'ss was up 2299.3590 2137 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2299.3590 (pause 0.10) 2299.4589 2138 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2299.4589 on 2299.9459 2139 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2299.9459 (pause 0.19) 2300.1329 2140 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2300.1329 Oregon Street near Central Avenue. 2302.4043 2141 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2302.4043 (pause 0.55) 2302.9536 2142 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2302.9536 You know [Central Avenue?] 2304.3151 2143 ROC_int_01 2303.3860 [Yeah.] 2303.7600 2144 ROC_int_01 2303.7600 (pause 0.34) 2304.1047 2145 ROC_int_01 2304.1047 [Mm-hm.] 2304.5780 2146 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2305.2091 That was also 2306.4187 2147 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2306.4187 (pause 0.40) 2306.8160 2148 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2306.8160 where all the hot dog stores- 2309.3037 2149 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2309.3037 (pause 0.50) 2309.8062 2150 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2309.8062 I mean, restaurants. 2311.0508 2151 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2311.0508 (pause 0.99) 2312.0442 2152 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2312.0442 And 2312.4766 2153 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2312.4766 (pause 1.12) 2313.5985 2154 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2313.5985 you know where the train station. 2315.0184 2155 ROC_int_01 2315.3807 Yeah. 2315.6845 2156 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2316.0394 You know where North Street. 2317.2782 2157 ROC_int_01 2317.7807 Mm-hm. 2318.2482 2158 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2318.5987 So Central Avenue 2320.2115 2159 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2320.2115 (pause 0.13) 2320.3400 2160 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2320.3400 from the train station 2321.8885 2161 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2321.8885 (pause 0.50) 2322.3910 2162 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2322.3910 all the way back 2323.3302 2163 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2323.3302 (pause 0.37) 2323.6984 2164 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2323.6984 to North Street 2324.7852 2165 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2324.7852 (pause 1.02) 2325.8019 2166 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2325.8019 was hot dog 2326.7076 2167 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2326.7076 (pause 0.48) 2327.1868 2168 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2327.1868 restaurants 2328.0282 2169 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2328.0282 (pause 0.28) 2328.3087 2170 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2328.3087 on both sides of the street. 2330.2997 2171 ROC_int_01 2330.8665 Wow. 2331.4508 2172 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2331.7371 So you could go to any one you wanted to, 2334.4835 2173 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2334.4835 (pause 0.47) 2334.9568 2174 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2334.9568 but most of us picked a favorite. 2336.9127 2175 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2336.9127 (pause 0.69) 2337.6022 2176 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2337.6022 My favorite was the VNS, and I don't know what that means. 2340.9913 2177 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2340.9913 (pause 0.30) 2341.2952 2178 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2341.2952 Probably back then I knew what it meant. 2343.1284 2179 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2343.1284 (pause 1.05) 2344.1802 2180 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2344.1802 Oh, the hot dogs was so good. 2345.8806 2181 ROC_int_01 2345.9916 Mm-hm. 2346.5701 2182 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2347.1427 And I had two friends, /RD-NAME-2/ and /RD-NAME-2/, 2349.7648 2183 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2349.7648 (pause 0.61) 2350.3725 2184 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2350.3725 and 2350.8282 2185 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2350.8282 (pause 0.36) 2351.1847 2186 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2351.1847 they would take turns 2352.5578 2187 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2352.5578 (pause 0.50) 2353.0545 2188 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2353.0545 going up there at night. 2354.5796 2189 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2354.5796 (pause 0.15) 2354.7257 2190 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2354.7257 And they'd come back with the hot dogs. 2356.6232 2191 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2356.6232 (pause 0.51) 2357.1316 2192 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2357.1316 And then when it was my turn, they'd both go with me 2360.0065 2193 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2360.0065 (pause 0.18) 2360.1876 2194 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2360.1876 so I didn't have to go by myself. (laughing) 2363.4641 2195 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2363.4641 (pause 0.27) 2363.7387 2196 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2363.7387 I was so funny. As I got older, we laughed about it. (laughing) 2367.0577 2197 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2367.0577 (pause 0.59) 2367.6479 2198 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2367.6479 But 2367.9084 2199 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2367.9084 (pause 0.07) 2367.9827 2200 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2367.9827 they- they would go on they own in the snow, whatever the weather was. 2372.1223 2201 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2372.1223 (pause 0.54) 2372.6598 2202 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2372.6598 But when it was my turn, they both go with me. 2375.1900 2203 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2375.1900 (pause 1.10) 2376.2885 2204 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2376.2885 So I'm tryna look at these notes. I'm glad I wrote 'em down. 2380.0734 2205 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2380.0734 (pause 0.91) 2380.9849 2206 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2380.9849 So 2381.5459 2207 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2381.5459 (pause 0.46) 2382.0075 2208 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2382.0075 oh, I said I skip my preteens years, I'm sorry. 2385.0444 2209 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2385.0444 (pause 0.53) 2385.5762 2210 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2385.5762 Oh, that was when I was going to the 2387.3233 2211 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2387.3233 (pause 1.48) 2388.8075 2212 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2388.8075 mission. 2389.3743 2213 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2389.3743 (pause 1.21) 2390.5823 2214 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2390.5823 Uh, then 2391.3419 2215 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2391.3419 (pause 0.59) 2391.9321 2216 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2391.9321 did you- 2392.6742 2217 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2392.6742 (pause 0.50) 2393.1767 2218 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2393.1767 how long you been here? 2394.2694 2219 ROC_int_01 2395.2043 As in how long 2396.3316 2220 ROC_int_01 2396.3316 (pause 0.09) 2396.4178 2221 ROC_int_01 2396.4178 a- [have I /been in/ Rochester?] All my [life.] 2398.8138 2222 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2396.7177 [In Rochester.] 2397.5693 2223 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2397.5693 (pause 1.16) 2398.7262 2224 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2398.7262 [Oh, so you know Smitty's.] 2400.4968 2225 ROC_int_01 2398.9019 [So I /unintelligible/] 2400.2046 2226 ROC_int_01 2400.9175 [Yes.] 2401.4667 2227 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2401.4177 [Okay.] 2401.8933 2228 ROC_int_01 2401.8115 [Well], I've heard stories about [it], 2403.5288 2229 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2403.4999 [Okay, he-] that was his last 2405.4196 2230 ROC_int_01 2403.8172 [but yeah.] 2404.3225 2231 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2405.4996 [place.] 2405.9899 2232 ROC_int_01 2405.9474 [Mm-hm.] 2406.3639 2233 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2406.3795 He started out on Ormond Street, 2408.6582 2234 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2408.6582 (pause 0.99) 2409.6458 2235 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2409.6458 and 2410.0898 2236 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2410.0898 (pause 0.96) 2411.0524 2237 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2411.0524 he had a restaurant 2412.3555 2238 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2412.3555 (pause 0.39) 2412.7470 2239 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2412.7470 downstairs. Like I /say/ everybody lived over something. 2416.0017 2240 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2416.0017 (pause 0.49) 2416.4925 2241 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2416.4925 My friend /RD-NAME-1/, 2417.3654 2242 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2417.3654 (pause 0.07) 2417.4367 2243 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2417.4367 that I say 2418.1796 2244 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2418.1796 (pause 0.14) 2418.3199 2245 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2418.3199 we grew up like sisters, 2419.7515 2246 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2419.7515 (pause 0.28) 2420.0320 2247 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2420.0320 she lived up over 2421.3467 2248 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2421.3467 (pause 0.89) 2422.2349 2249 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2422.2349 him. 2422.6088 2250 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2422.6088 (pause 0.80) 2423.4094 2251 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2423.4094 He- 2423.7943 2252 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2423.7943 (pause 0.09) 2423.8878 2253 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2423.8878 he made- 2424.6290 2254 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2424.6290 (pause 0.46) 2425.0848 2255 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2425.0848 he sold 2425.8260 2256 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2425.8260 (pause 0.14) 2425.9670 2257 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2425.9670 chicken sandwiches 2427.1650 2258 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2427.1650 (pause 0.66) 2427.8253 2259 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2427.8253 and 2428.2519 2260 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2428.2519 (pause 0.28) 2428.5323 2261 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2428.5323 coffee royal. 2429.5841 2262 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2429.5841 (pause 0.85) 2430.4314 2263 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2430.4314 Coffee royal 2431.4407 2264 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2431.4407 (pause 0.34) 2431.7855 2265 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2431.7855 was a cup of coffee 2433.1703 2266 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2433.1703 (pause 0.36) 2433.5268 2267 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2433.5268 with a shot of whiskey in it, 2434.9934 2268 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2434.9934 (pause 0.57) 2435.5661 2269 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2435.5661 which was illegal, 2436.8808 2270 ROC_int_01 2437.4944 /Yeah/. 2437.9544 2271 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2437.9979 but that's how he made his money. 2439.6314 2272 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2439.6314 (pause 1.08) 2440.7066 2273 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2440.7066 And he would have dances 2442.3485 2274 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2442.3485 (pause 0.15) 2442.4946 2275 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2442.4946 in the back 2443.2192 2276 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2443.2192 (pause 0.54) 2443.7568 2277 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2443.7568 of the restaurant 2444.7092 2278 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2444.7092 (pause 0.72) 2445.4264 2279 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2445.4264 every week 2446.0166 2280 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2446.0166 (pause 0.12) 2446.1334 2281 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2446.1334 for teenagers. 2447.3547 2282 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2447.3547 (pause 0.74) 2448.0909 2283 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2448.0909 And with me, 2449.1485 2284 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2449.1485 (pause 0.19) 2449.3355 2285 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2449.3355 he would send me to the store. 2451.0242 2286 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2451.0242 (pause 0.49) 2451.5135 2287 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2451.5135 If I was walking by, he would send me to store to get him a box of salt or a loaf of bread or something like that, 2457.4152 2288 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2457.4152 (pause 0.32) 2457.7366 2289 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2457.7366 and I'd go gladly 2458.8452 2290 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2458.8452 (pause 0.41) 2459.2543 2291 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2459.2543 cause I wanted to go that dance. 2460.9605 2292 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2460.9605 (pause 0.75) 2461.7143 2293 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2461.7143 And he'd always tell me I wasn't old enough. 2464.2912 2294 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2464.2912 (pause 0.94) 2465.2304 2295 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2465.2304 Then when I got old enough, 2466.8606 2296 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2466.8606 (pause 0.34) 2467.1995 2297 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2467.1995 he stopped having the [dances] 2469.0694 2298 ROC_int_01 2468.6370 [Oh], of [course. ] 2470.5244 2299 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2469.8991 [and moved] his 2470.9334 2300 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2471.4009 restaurant 2472.2174 2301 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2472.2174 (pause 0.61) 2472.8309 2302 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2472.8309 somewhere else. Where did he go? 2474.8118 2303 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2474.8118 (pause 1.25) 2476.0633 2304 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2476.0633 2476.1474 2305 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2476.1474 (pause 0.92) 2477.0673 2306 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2477.0673 I don't know where he went, but eventually he was up on Central Avenue 2481.4638 2307 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2481.4638 (pause 0.06) 2481.5255 2308 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2481.5255 up with th- all the hot dogs. 2483.2479 2309 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2483.2479 (pause 0.47) 2483.7153 2310 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2483.7153 But he was on the corner of North Street 2485.6086 2311 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2485.6086 (pause 0.50) 2486.1037 2312 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2486.1037 and Central Avenue. 2487.2957 2313 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2487.2957 (pause 0.74) 2488.0320 2314 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2488.0320 And from there 2488.8734 2315 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2488.8734 (pause 0.48) 2489.3525 2316 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2489.3525 he moved cross town 2491.0997 2317 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2491.0997 (pause 0.30) 2491.4035 2318 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2491.4035 on Clarissa Street, 2492.7517 2319 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2492.7517 (pause 1.32) 2494.0723 2320 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2494.0723 and 2494.5982 2321 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2494.5982 (pause 0.25) 2494.8495 2322 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2494.8495 from there 2495.9130 2323 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2495.9130 (pause 1.86) 2497.7770 2324 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2497.7770 he moved 2498.6944 2325 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2498.6944 (pause 1.01) 2499.7037 2326 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2499.7037 here. 2500.3990 2327 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2500.3990 (pause 0.54) 2500.9424 2328 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2500.9424 Where did he- 2501.7371 2329 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2501.7371 (pause 0.67) 2502.4033 2330 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2502.4033 he was somewhere 2503.6479 2331 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2503.6479 (pause 0.60) 2504.2439 2332 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2504.2439 around here. [Do you remember where he was] 2506.4285 2333 ROC_int_01 2505.0261 [In-] 2505.3775 2334 ROC_int_01 2505.3775 (pause 0.15) 2505.5258 2335 ROC_int_01 2505.5258 [yeah, in /?/] 2506.3175 2336 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2506.7557 on this side of town? 2508.0120 2337 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2508.0120 (pause 0.51) 2508.5204 2338 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2508.5204 Your parents might [remember.] 2510.1958 2339 ROC_int_01 2509.7459 [Yeah, I] was gonna say, I feel like my mom [talks about it a lot.] 2513.0357 2340 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2512.0598 [Yeah, and eventually] 2513.7018 2341 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2513.9063 he moved to where- 2515.5541 2342 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2515.5541 (pause 0.56) 2516.1092 2343 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2516.1092 uh, [Thurston and-] 2517.4867 2344 ROC_int_01 2516.8859 [Brooks.] 2517.3974 2345 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2517.8431 and, uh, [Brooks.] 2519.0411 2346 ROC_int_01 2517.8681 [/?/] 2518.2078 2347 ROC_int_01 2518.2078 (pause 0.18) 2518.3865 2348 ROC_int_01 2518.3865 [Yeah.] 2518.7717 2349 ROC_int_01 2519.0517 Yeah. 2519.3681 2350 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2519.3759 That was his last spot. 2520.7063 2351 ROC_int_01 2520.8933 [Mm-hm.] 2521.4426 2352 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2521.3783 [His] wife, 2522.4126 2353 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2522.6171 um, 2523.2530 2354 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2523.2530 (pause 1.39) 2524.6474 2355 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2524.6474 had a accident. She fell through the floor, 2526.9278 2356 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2526.9278 (pause 0.33) 2527.2609 2357 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2527.2609 broke her [hips], 2528.2309 2358 ROC_int_01 2527.9913 [Aw.] 2528.5406 2359 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2528.8736 and she never recovered. 2530.4393 2360 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2530.4393 (pause 0.09) 2530.5300 2361 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2530.5300 She was in, uh, the Episcopal home. 2533.0851 2362 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2533.0851 (pause 0.61) 2533.6986 2363 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2533.6986 She never recovered, and that affected him. 2536.3456 2364 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2536.3456 (pause 0.61) 2536.9517 2365 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2536.9517 And his health kind of went down too. 2539.2715 2366 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2539.2715 (pause 0.75) 2540.0253 2367 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2540.0253 So 2540.5845 2368 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2540.5845 (pause 0.17) 2540.7541 2369 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2540.7541 I think 2541.2699 2370 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2541.2699 (pause 0.54) 2541.8075 2371 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2541.8075 somebody moved him out to Arizona or something, 2545.0548 2372 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2545.0548 (pause 0.44) 2545.4989 2373 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2545.4989 and that's where he died. 2546.8837 2374 ROC_int_01 2547.2811 [Mm-hm.] 2547.6960 2375 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2547.5265 [But] he used to- he- he u- 2549.1743 2376 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2549.6427 he used to t- 2550.2457 2377 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2550.2457 (pause 0.12) 2550.3657 2378 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2550.3657 when I go in his place, 2551.8022 2379 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2551.8022 (pause 0.84) 2552.6378 2380 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2552.6378 he'd say, oh, 2553.4995 2381 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2553.4995 (pause 0.08) 2553.5802 2382 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2553.5802 boy, who let that lady out? 2555.2264 2383 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2555.2264 (pause 0.36) 2555.5828 2384 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2555.5828 Somebody 2556.3132 2385 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2556.3132 (pause 0.62) 2556.9326 2386 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2556.9326 take that old lady home. She too old to be out. 2559.3209 2387 ROC_int_01 2559.4436 [] 2560.3610 2388 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2559.5371 [you know, he'd always] say something funny about me (laughing) 2562.0673 2389 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2562.3302 knowing he about fifty years older than me. (laughing) 2564.5316 2390 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2564.5316 (pause 0.54) 2565.0691 2391 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2565.0691 And- uh, 2565.7586 2392 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2565.7586 (pause 0.71) 2566.4715 2393 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2566.4715 and 2566.7380 2394 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2566.7380 (pause 0.09) 2566.8285 2395 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2566.8285 v- we would laugh about it. 2568.2713 2396 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2568.2713 (pause 0.79) 2569.0601 2397 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2569.0601 And he said sh- 2569.8302 2398 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2569.8302 (pause 0.14) 2569.9736 2399 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2569.9736 she used to be my paper boy. 2571.7581 2400 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2571.7581 (pause 0.40) 2572.1555 2401 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2572.1555 /Ops/, she used to be my paper girl. 2574.2766 2402 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2574.2766 (pause 0.53) 2574.8083 2403 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2574.8083 She too old to be out. [Somebody] take her home. You know, he would tease. 2579.1658 2404 ROC_int_01 2576.6621 [Mm.] 2576.9994 2405 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2579.6391 I wish I could remember where he was before he moved to Thurston. 2583.7703 2406 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2583.7703 (pause 1.00) 2584.7679 2407 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2584.7679 2584.9082 2408 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2584.9082 (pause 0.63) 2585.5393 2409 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2585.5393 But 2585.8721 2410 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2585.8721 (pause 0.19) 2586.0665 2411 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2586.0665 I- 2586.3540 2412 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2586.3540 (pause 0.13) 2586.4856 2413 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2586.4856 that's- 2587.0118 2414 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2587.0118 (pause 0.54) 2587.5552 2415 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2587.5552 I- that's why I wrote this [stuff down.] 2589.2790 2416 ROC_int_01 2588.6829 [Was he around] the Plymouth- 2590.2898 2417 ROC_int_01 2590.5469 in the Plymouth [area?] 2591.4569 2418 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2591.2115 [Yes], he was. You [right.] 2593.0814 2419 ROC_int_01 2592.5964 [Was that it?] 2593.3618 2420 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2593.4203 He was on- in that plaza [there, wasn't] he? 2596.4237 2421 ROC_int_01 2595.4956 [Mm-hm.] 2596.1361 2422 ROC_int_01 2596.7509 That's what I'm thinking. 2597.6377 2423 ROC_int_01 2597.6377 (pause 0.22) 2597.8577 2424 ROC_int_01 2597.8577 [I don't remember, but I think my] [mom-] 2600.0274 2425 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2597.9592 [Oh no, he was in that-] 2599.3217 2426 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2599.3217 (pause 0.17) 2599.4937 2427 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2599.4937 [he was down] farther. 2600.8747 2428 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2601.5993 Was he in the plaza or where that restaurant on the corner 2604.4450 2429 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2604.4450 (pause 0.30) 2604.7472 2430 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2604.7472 Columbia? 2605.4075 2431 ROC_int_01 2606.9794 I'm not quite sure, but I feel like I- [cause I remember my mom saying something about /Plymouth/.] 2611.5414 2432 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2608.7499 [Yeah, you're right. He was around Plymouth Avenue.] 2611.8277 2433 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2612.2192 Mm-hm. 2612.9496 2434 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2612.9496 (pause 1.03) 2613.9839 2435 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2613.9839 Yeah. 2614.6150 2436 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2614.6150 (pause 0.42) 2615.0357 2437 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2615.0357 I can't remember though. 2616.2628 2438 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2616.2628 (pause 0.75) 2617.0165 2439 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2617.0165 You still don't want a drink or something? 2618.6745 2440 ROC_int_01 2618.8439 Oh, I'm [okay.] 2619.7515 2441 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2619.7109 [Okay.] 2620.0918 2442 ROC_int_01 2619.8643 [Are y-] do you need a drink? [/??/] 2621.7082 2443 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2621.0664 [Oh no, I'm fine.] 2622.0641 2444 ROC_int_01 2622.1000 Cool. 2622.4108 2445 ROC_int_01 2622.4108 (pause 0.22) 2622.6335 2446 ROC_int_01 2622.6335 [Thank-] 2622.8737 2447 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2622.6974 [I] talk all the time. 2624.0094 2448 ROC_int_01 2624.4518 [Okay.] 2624.7839 2449 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2624.6617 [] 2625.2946 2450 ROC_int_01 2625.0345 [I love] it. 2625.4293 2451 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2625.4982 [] 2626.1414 2452 ROC_int_01 2625.5672 [] 2626.5446 2453 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2626.8134 Don't let me put you to sleep [now.] 2628.5812 2454 ROC_int_01 2628.5277 [No], [you won't.] 2629.5321 2455 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2628.9857 [] 2629.4870 2456 ROC_int_01 2629.6307 [] 2630.4028 2457 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2630.1387 [] 2630.5782 2458 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2631.3403 And, uh, 2631.9539 2459 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2631.9539 (pause 1.73) 2633.6835 2460 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2633.6835 as a teenager, 2634.9398 2461 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2634.9398 (pause 0.93) 2635.8673 2462 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2635.8673 she let me go 2637.0768 2463 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2637.0768 (pause 0.37) 2637.4450 2464 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2637.4450 cross town 2638.3039 2465 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2638.3039 (pause 0.48) 2638.7831 2466 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2638.7831 to 2639.2389 2467 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2639.2389 (pause 0.30) 2639.5369 2468 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2639.5369 Montgomery Center, 2640.5711 2469 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2640.5711 (pause 1.07) 2641.6404 2470 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2641.6404 which was on Clarissa Street 2643.1873 2471 ROC_int_01 2643.5905 [Okay.] 2643.9762 2472 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2643.8243 [across] the street 2644.8760 2473 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2645.0689 from Latimer's Funeral Home. 2646.9504 2474 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2646.9504 (pause 0.74) 2647.6925 2475 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2647.6925 Cab Calloway's house was right behind Latimer's 2651.1524 2476 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2651.1524 (pause 0.09) 2651.2454 2477 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2651.2454 on, 2651.7228 2478 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2651.7228 (pause 1.68) 2653.4057 2479 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2653.4057 uh, 2653.9724 2480 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2653.9724 (pause 0.43) 2654.4048 2481 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2654.4048 the Favor Street. 2655.5852 2482 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2655.5852 (pause 0.83) 2656.4192 2483 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2656.4192 I forgot the street. 2657.5061 2484 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2657.5061 (pause 0.98) 2658.4877 2485 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2658.4877 But at- um, 2659.6622 2486 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2659.6622 (pause 0.68) 2660.3400 2487 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2660.3400 2660.4920 2488 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2660.4920 (pause 0.79) 2661.2808 2489 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2661.2808 at Montgomery Center, 2662.5424 2490 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2662.5424 (pause 0.10) 2662.6384 2491 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2662.6384 it was just about the same as at 2664.5047 2492 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2664.5047 (pause 0.36) 2664.8612 2493 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2664.8612 Baden Street Settlement 2666.0766 2494 ROC_int_01 2666.3350 [Okay.] 2666.7921 2495 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2666.7252 [except], 2667.2409 2496 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2667.4617 uh, 2667.9114 2497 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2667.9114 (pause 1.40) 2669.3122 2498 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2669.3122 you saw Mrs. Brandon, Julia Brandon. 2672.1345 2499 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2672.1345 (pause 0.37) 2672.5084 2500 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2672.5084 She like 2673.1570 2501 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2673.1570 (pause 1.03) 2674.1913 2502 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2674.1913 ran Montgomery Center. 2675.9735 2503 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2675.9735 (pause 0.51) 2676.4861 2504 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2676.4861 She didn't play. 2677.5788 2505 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2677.5788 (pause 0.57) 2678.1515 2506 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2678.1515 You come in there, and you behaved. 2679.7116 2507 ROC_int_01 2679.9746 [Mm-hm.] 2680.5764 2508 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2680.4654 [She] was a social worker, but she 2682.5573 2509 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2683.4147 was sort of like 2684.3438 2510 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2684.3438 (pause 0.48) 2684.8229 2511 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2684.8229 acting as the director. But they had another director, but I don't- 2688.3990 2512 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2688.3990 (pause 0.56) 2688.9541 2513 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2688.9541 I think he was more in the background. 2690.8224 2514 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2690.8224 (pause 0.47) 2691.2957 2515 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2691.2957 But somebody on this side of town might remember better than I do 2694.7917 2516 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2694.7917 (pause 0.29) 2695.0799 2517 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2695.0799 cause I lived on the other side. 2696.7284 2518 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2696.7284 (pause 0.74) 2697.4705 2519 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2697.4705 But 2697.7743 2520 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2697.7743 (pause 0.27) 2698.0490 2521 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2698.0490 I was over here so much people thought I lived over here. N- 2701.3387 2522 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2701.3387 (pause 0.56) 2701.8997 2523 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2701.8997 and what we would do- 2703.1560 2524 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2703.1560 (pause 1.40) 2704.5568 2525 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2704.5568 the wonder bread 2705.4800 2526 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2705.4800 (pause 1.10) 2706.5844 2527 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2706.5844 place was right next to 2708.2063 2528 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2708.2063 (pause 0.09) 2708.2942 2529 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2708.2942 Montgomery Center. 2709.2898 2530 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2709.2898 (pause 1.42) 2710.7140 2531 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2710.7140 And the t- f- 2711.4035 2532 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2711.4035 (pause 0.30) 2711.7015 2533 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2711.7015 trolley 2712.3560 2534 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2712.3560 (pause 0.49) 2712.8468 2535 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2712.8468 would cross 2713.7876 2536 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2713.7876 (pause 0.47) 2714.2551 2537 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2714.2551 Clarissa Street 2715.2250 2538 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2715.2250 (pause 0.22) 2715.4412 2539 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2715.4412 right at West Main, 2716.8027 2540 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2716.8027 (pause 0.73) 2717.5374 2541 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2717.5374 um, 2718.1276 2542 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2718.1276 (pause 1.36) 2719.4891 2543 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2719.4891 near Ni- Nick Tahou 2721.1894 2544 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2721.1894 (pause 1.41) 2722.6035 2545 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2722.6035 but on the other side of the bridge. 2724.7756 2546 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2724.7756 (pause 1.06) 2725.8391 2547 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2725.8391 So 2726.3241 2548 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2726.3241 (pause 1.81) 2728.1297 2549 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2728.1297 it's the open door misison. 2729.5847 2550 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2729.5847 (pause 0.40) 2729.9820 2551 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2729.9820 You know that block? 2731.1140 2552 ROC_int_01 2732.0277 [Yes.] 2732.5747 2553 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2732.5449 [Okay], so that's where, um, 2734.9320 2554 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2735.3112 2735.3917 2555 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2735.3917 (pause 0.23) 2735.6192 2556 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2735.6192 Clarissa Street 2736.5015 2557 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2736.5015 (pause 0.33) 2736.8346 2558 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2736.8346 would start. 2737.5634 2559 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2737.5634 (pause 0.69) 2738.2529 2560 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2738.2529 So we would walk. 2739.6027 2561 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2739.6027 (pause 0.64) 2740.2397 2562 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2740.2397 We get on the right side of the street, 2742.0628 2563 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2742.0628 (pause 0.56) 2742.6179 2564 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2742.6179 and we walk from there down to Bronson, 2745.3977 2565 ROC_int_01 2746.2138 Wow. 2746.5325 2566 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2746.6014 and then 2747.1448 2567 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2747.1448 (pause 0.79) 2747.9337 2568 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2747.9337 it was l- 2748.3488 2569 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2748.3488 (pause 0.10) 2748.4489 2570 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2748.4489 LaRue's Restaurant 2749.9963 2571 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2749.9963 (pause 0.27) 2750.2710 2572 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2750.2710 and Bar was on the corner. 2752.0049 2573 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2752.0049 (pause 0.75) 2752.7528 2574 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2752.7528 So the restaurant 2753.8397 2575 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2753.8397 (pause 0.58) 2754.4181 2576 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2754.4181 was on this side, 2755.8848 2577 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2755.8848 (pause 0.20) 2756.0893 2578 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2756.0893 and the bar was on this side. 2757.8466 2579 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2757.8466 (pause 0.59) 2758.4367 2580 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2758.4367 They were attached. It was one building, 2760.4527 2581 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2760.4527 (pause 0.96) 2761.4168 2582 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2761.4168 but we wasn't old enough to go in the bar, 2763.2983 2583 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2763.2983 (pause 0.36) 2763.6606 2584 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2763.6606 so we go in the restaurant 2765.6282 2585 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2765.6282 (pause 0.79) 2766.4171 2586 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2766.4171 and come out 2767.1820 2587 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2767.1820 (pause 0.17) 2767.3548 2588 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2767.3548 on Bronson, 2768.2811 2589 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2768.2811 (pause 0.52) 2768.7991 2590 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2768.7991 cross the street, 2769.7945 2591 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2769.7945 (pause 0.54) 2770.3379 2592 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2770.3379 and go back down Clarissa 2772.1653 2593 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2772.1653 (pause 0.58) 2772.7438 2594 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2772.7438 to 2773.2054 2595 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2773.2054 (pause 1.10) 2774.3098 2596 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2774.3098 Main Street. 2774.9584 2597 ROC_int_01 2775.0636 Mm-hm. 2775.5544 2598 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2776.6003 And we'd do that, 2777.4242 2599 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2777.4242 (pause 0.40) 2777.8200 2600 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2777.8200 w- 2777.9310 2601 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2777.9310 (pause 0.15) 2778.0771 2602 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2778.0771 didn't seem like we got tired or anything. 2780.6657 2603 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2780.6657 (pause 0.47) 2781.1390 2604 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2781.1390 And it's funny cause when they had a Clarissa reunion, 2784.0431 2605 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2784.0431 (pause 0.30) 2784.3469 2606 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2784.3469 some of us 2785.1985 2607 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2785.1985 (pause 0.54) 2785.7419 2608 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2785.7419 talk about tha- 2786.5892 2609 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2786.5892 (pause 0.70) 2787.2904 2610 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2787.2904 it wasn't that exciting. 2788.9207 2611 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2788.9207 (pause 0.47) 2789.3940 2612 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2789.3940 It's just 2789.8790 2613 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2789.8790 (pause 0.33) 2790.2062 2614 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2790.2062 we didn't do anything exciting. We just walked up and down the street all day or all night. [] 2795.6622 2615 ROC_int_01 2795.2590 [Mm-hm.] 2795.8200 2616 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2796.0479 And it was fun. 2797.4211 2617 ROC_int_01 2797.6322 [Yeah.] 2798.0973 2618 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2797.8301 [And then] I had to walk home 2799.5406 2619 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2800.1132 cross town 2801.0423 2620 ROC_int_01 2801.5831 Wow. 2802.0249 2621 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2802.0532 sometime by myself 2803.4965 2622 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2803.4965 (pause 0.39) 2803.8821 2623 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2803.8821 and never had any kind of fear. 2805.9316 2624 ROC_int_01 2806.4112 Mm. 2806.6985 2625 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2806.7116 And nobody ever bothered me. 2808.2513 2626 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2808.2513 (pause 1.02) 2809.2681 2627 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2809.2681 They didn't do that back then. They didn't bother 2811.5177 2628 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2811.5177 (pause 0.64) 2812.1531 2629 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2812.1531 young people back then. 2813.4269 2630 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2813.4269 (pause 0.68) 2814.1047 2631 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2814.1047 And it was- it was a good time to grow up 2816.5647 2632 ROC_int_01 2816.8160 Mm-hm. 2817.2835 2633 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2817.3185 except I did a lot of walking. I think about that now. 2820.4197 2634 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2820.4197 (pause 0.65) 2821.0742 2635 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2821.0742 And another hot spot for us was, uh, the Gibson Hotel, 2825.1294 2636 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2825.1294 (pause 1.43) 2826.5594 2637 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2826.5594 and it was on Clarissa Street 2828.1831 2638 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2828.1831 (pause 1.44) 2829.6213 2639 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2829.6213 between 2830.5621 2640 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2830.5621 (pause 0.63) 2831.1873 2641 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2831.1873 Atkinson Street 2832.4436 2642 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2832.4436 (pause 0.57) 2833.0147 2643 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2833.0147 and Bronson. 2834.0256 2644 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2834.0256 (pause 1.09) 2835.1183 2645 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2835.1183 And they had, uh, 2836.7076 2646 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2836.7076 (pause 0.57) 2837.2803 2647 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2837.2803 teenage dances there on the weekend, 2839.6628 2648 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2839.6628 (pause 0.94) 2840.6027 2649 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2840.6027 but I couldn't go. I wasn't old enough. 2842.7305 2650 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2842.7305 (pause 0.86) 2843.5953 2651 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2843.5953 Then when I was old enough, 2845.1438 2652 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2845.1438 (pause 1.13) 2846.2699 2653 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2846.2699 they tore it down cause 2847.7015 2654 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2847.7015 (pause 0.75) 2848.4495 2655 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2848.4495 it 2848.6540 2656 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2848.6540 (pause 0.36) 2849.0104 2657 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2849.0104 caught on fire. 2849.9570 2658 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2849.9570 (pause 0.82) 2850.7809 2659 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2850.7809 So that was my s- that was my story /that/ 2853.0530 2660 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2853.0530 (pause 0.98) 2854.0282 2661 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2854.0282 I'm not old enough for some things. When I'm old enough, it- 2856.8914 2662 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2856.8914 (pause 0.33) 2857.2187 2663 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2857.2187 it's gone. 2857.8638 2664 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2857.8638 (pause 0.08) 2857.9428 2665 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2857.9428 It's no more. [] 2859.7371 2666 ROC_int_01 2858.7504 [Mm-hm.] 2859.2714 2667 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2860.3783 So 2861.0737 2668 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2861.0737 (pause 0.39) 2861.4652 2669 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2861.4652 let's see. 2862.2657 2670 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2862.2657 (pause 0.70) 2862.9648 2671 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2862.9648 2863.0787 2672 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2863.0787 (pause 0.26) 2863.3408 2673 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2863.3408 Uh, let's see. 2864.3167 2674 ROC_int_01 2865.2341 /Kay/. 2865.5613 2675 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2865.6723 I already said that. I already- I'm'a give this to you. 2868.5807 2676 ROC_int_01 2868.9021 [Okay, thanks.] 2869.7669 2677 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2869.2702 [Okay?] 2869.8428 2678 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2870.7135 And the Elk's 2871.5958 2679 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2871.5958 (pause 0.40) 2871.9990 2680 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2871.9990 on Clarissa Street was another- 2874.1653 2681 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2874.1653 (pause 0.64) 2874.8081 2682 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2874.8081 you know the Elk's 2875.8657 2683 ROC_int_01 2875.0827 [Right down the street] from my house. I live on 2877.4434 2684 ROC_int_01 2877.5406 /RD-ADDRESS-1/ and 2878.0098 2685 ROC_int_01 2878.0098 (pause 0.07) 2878.0810 2686 ROC_int_01 2878.0810 /RD-ADDRESS-1/ 2878.4107 2687 ROC_int_01 2878.4107 (pause 0.08) 2878.4896 2688 ROC_int_01 2878.4896 [Yeah.] 2878.8245 2689 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2878.7581 [Okay.] 2879.5645 2690 ROC_int_01 2878.9117 [So.] 2879.3097 2691 ROC_int_01 2879.6365 Yeah. 2880.1205 2692 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2880.1512 Well I used to have to go over there every Monday 2883.0104 2693 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2883.0104 (pause 0.32) 2883.3318 2694 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2883.3318 after school, 2884.2258 2695 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2884.2258 (pause 0.61) 2884.8335 2696 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2884.8335 and my mother would give me 2886.2242 2697 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2886.2242 (pause 0.47) 2886.6917 2698 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2886.6917 bus fare. 2887.4439 2699 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2887.4439 (pause 0.85) 2888.2912 2700 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2888.2912 And I'd have to leave school 2890.0091 2701 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2890.0091 (pause 0.75) 2890.7629 2702 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2890.7629 and go over to the Elk's 2892.2003 2703 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2892.2003 (pause 0.51) 2892.7087 2704 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2892.7087 and get my bicycle 2893.9810 2705 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2893.9810 (pause 0.68) 2894.6646 2706 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2894.6646 cause my mother would go over there on the weekends 2897.0487 2707 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2897.0487 (pause 0.18) 2897.2298 2708 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2897.2298 and get too drunlk 2898.1881 2709 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2898.1881 (pause 0.61) 2898.7958 2710 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2898.7958 to ride the bicycle back home. 2900.9112 2711 ROC_int_01 2900.9853 [Mm-hm.] 2901.4196 2712 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2901.3436 [So] that was a treat for me 2902.9547 2713 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2903.5215 to go over there on the bus, and I could stay over there 2906.1451 2714 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2906.1451 (pause 0.53) 2906.6710 2715 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2906.6710 and then ride my bike home. I didn't have to walk home. [] 2910.2689 2716 ROC_int_01 2909.5504 [Mm-hm.] 2910.2058 2717 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2910.8999 And I think she l- she probably 2912.8925 2718 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2912.8925 (pause 0.27) 2913.1613 2719 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2913.1613 realized that I enjoyed doing that, you know, t- 2916.0589 2720 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2916.0589 (pause 0.16) 2916.2179 2721 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2916.2179 that she gave me bus fare. 2917.6065 2722 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2917.6065 (pause 0.99) 2918.5998 2723 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2918.5998 And 2918.9796 2724 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2918.9796 (pause 0.56) 2919.5347 2725 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2919.5347 aft- I think about it sometimes and I said, 2922.1885 2726 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2922.1885 (pause 0.51) 2922.7027 2727 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2922.7027 what'd I do for food? 2924.0450 2728 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2924.0450 (pause 0.53) 2924.5709 2729 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2924.5709 You know, I don't know what I did for food. 2926.6979 2730 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2926.6979 (pause 0.30) 2927.0017 2731 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2927.0017 I don't know if she gave me 2928.2405 2732 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2928.2405 (pause 0.52) 2928.7606 2733 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2928.7606 money for a hot dog or something. I don't know 2931.4586 2734 ROC_int_01 2931.7233 [Mm.] 2932.1048 2735 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2931.7284 [I don't know.] 2932.3000 2736 ROC_int_01 2932.6623 Now, was the ek- 2933.5274 2737 ROC_int_01 2933.5274 (pause 0.08) 2933.6069 2738 ROC_int_01 2933.6069 Elk's next door to the Pythodd? 2935.8961 2739 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2935.9547 [Mm-hm.] 2936.3385 2740 ROC_int_01 2936.2253 [Or-] [Okay.] 2936.9759 2741 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2936.5962 [Mm-hm.] 2937.0903 2742 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2937.6626 Yeah, I went to the Pythodd, but I was an adult then. 2940.3563 2743 ROC_int_01 2940.3972 Okay. 2940.8705 2744 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2941.0491 I was an adult. 2942.1268 2745 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2942.1268 (pause 0.78) 2942.9040 2746 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2942.9040 And I already talked about the parish house, didn't /I/? 2945.2514 2747 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2945.2514 (pause 0.85) 2946.0987 2748 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2946.0987 Yeah, I talked about that 2947.3024 2749 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2947.3024 (pause 0.37) 2947.6705 2750 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2947.6705 I didn't talk about the train station 2949.8501 2751 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2949.8501 (pause 1.09) 2950.9354 2752 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2950.9354 Uh, 2951.3835 2753 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2951.3835 (pause 0.17) 2951.5524 2754 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2951.5524 the train station was 2953.0463 2755 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2953.0463 (pause 0.09) 2953.1352 2756 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2953.1352 huge. 2953.9154 2757 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2953.9154 (pause 0.35) 2954.2660 2758 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2954.2660 You ever be- 2955.0015 2759 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2955.0015 (pause 0.09) 2955.0869 2760 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2955.0869 been to, um, 2956.2001 2761 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2956.2001 (pause 2.02) 2958.2203 2762 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2958.2203 the Grand Central? 2959.2780 2763 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2959.2780 (pause 1.29) 2960.5693 2764 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2960.5693 It look like Grand Central 2961.9536 2765 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2961.9536 (pause 0.21) 2962.1642 2766 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2962.1642 in Rochester. 2963.2280 2767 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2963.2280 (pause 1.17) 2964.4010 2768 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2964.4010 And we would 2965.2073 2769 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2965.2073 (pause 0.47) 2965.6806 2770 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2965.6806 play there, 2966.5104 2771 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2966.5104 (pause 0.61) 2967.1181 2772 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2967.1181 and they had, um, 2968.5088 2773 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2968.5088 (pause 1.20) 2969.7125 2774 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2969.7125 a wall. 2970.4764 2775 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2970.4764 (pause 1.36) 2971.8320 2776 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2971.8320 I- 2972.3462 2777 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2972.3462 (pause 0.46) 2972.8020 2778 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2972.8020 it might still be there. 2974.2628 2779 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2974.2628 (pause 0.27) 2974.5316 2780 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2974.5316 When I was a kid, it seemed like it was the biggest wall in the world. 2978.4801 2781 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2978.4801 (pause 1.17) 2979.6546 2782 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2979.6546 But we would 2980.6081 2783 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2980.6081 (pause 0.20) 2980.8123 2784 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2980.8123 d- 2980.9099 2785 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2980.9099 (pause 0.15) 2981.0570 2786 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2981.0570 do a dangerous thing. 2982.6405 2787 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2982.6405 (pause 0.74) 2983.3826 2788 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2983.3826 We would see who could jump up on that 2985.5840 2789 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2985.5840 (pause 0.47) 2986.0573 2790 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2986.0573 and walk across it without falling off. If we had fell off, we woulda died. 2990.5683 2791 ROC_int_01 2990.7407 Mm. 2991.2109 2792 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2991.2011 It was up so high. It was at least 2992.9061 2793 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2993.2816 two stories 2994.1825 2794 ROC_int_01 2994.3293 Wow. 2994.8331 2795 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2994.8564 tall and that was not the station itself. 2997.4523 2796 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2997.4523 (pause 0.52) 2997.9728 2797 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2997.9728 That was a wall 2999.0547 2798 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2999.0547 (pause 0.27) 2999.3250 2799 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2999.3250 along side of it. 3000.5461 2800 ROC_int_01 3000.8131 Mm-hm. 3001.4604 2801 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3001.5037 I'm sorry [about that.] 3002.8450 2802 ROC_int_01 3002.2144 [] 3002.8784 2803 ROC_int_01 3003.3022 [It's okay.] 3003.8293 2804 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3003.3322 [Get down] boy cat. 3004.3065 2805 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3004.5867 Get down. 3004.9946 2806 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3004.9946 (pause 1.63) 3006.6262 2807 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3006.6262 Get down. 3007.0572 2808 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3007.0572 (pause 0.70) 3007.7540 2809 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3007.7540 He's a- he's fourteen years old. 3009.8046 2810 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3009.8046 (pause 0.44) 3010.2431 2811 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3010.2431 So he's kind of 3011.2649 2812 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3011.2649 (pause 0.49) 3011.7520 2813 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3011.7520 set when somebody come, he jumps on the table. 3014.5181 2814 ROC_int_01 3014.5314 Mm-hm. 3015.1720 2815 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3015.1153 I can't break him. 3016.0963 2816 ROC_int_01 3016.2864 3016.6377 2817 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3016.5944 Too old now . 3017.7169 2818 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3018.9365 Um, 3019.5905 2819 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3019.5905 (pause 1.85) 3021.4356 2820 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3021.4356 the movies, 3022.2698 2821 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3022.2698 (pause 0.57) 3022.8378 2822 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3022.8378 they were all over Rochester back then. 3025.3069 2823 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3025.3069 (pause 0.88) 3026.1877 2824 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3026.1877 I mean, 3026.6615 2825 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3026.6615 (pause 0.31) 3026.9752 2826 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3026.9752 you didn't know where to go. 3028.3713 2827 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3028.3713 (pause 0.75) 3029.1248 2828 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3029.1248 So, 3029.5051 2829 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3029.5051 (pause 1.02) 3030.5295 2830 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3030.5295 we black people had our favorites. 3032.4647 2831 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3032.4647 (pause 0.75) 3033.2121 2832 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3033.2121 One was called the Strand, 3035.1615 2833 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3035.1615 (pause 0.67) 3035.8321 2834 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3035.8321 and it was on St. Paul Street. 3037.6906 2835 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3037.6906 (pause 0.98) 3038.6749 2836 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3038.6749 And that's where the 3039.5257 2837 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3039.5257 (pause 0.39) 3039.9194 2838 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3039.9194 kids from across town used to go. 3042.3326 2839 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3042.3326 (pause 0.62) 3042.9499 2840 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3042.9499 And the other one was the Grand, 3044.9718 2841 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3044.9718 (pause 0.22) 3045.1920 2842 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3045.1920 and it was on 3046.0963 2843 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3046.0963 (pause 0.24) 3046.3332 2844 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3046.3332 Plymouth. 3046.8737 2845 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3046.8737 (pause 0.64) 3047.5118 2846 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3047.5118 That's North Plymouth. 3048.5795 2847 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3048.5795 (pause 0.60) 3049.1768 2848 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3049.1768 Down off Maine Street. 3050.3012 2849 ROC_int_01 3050.7216 [Mm-hm.] 3051.1526 2850 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3050.9652 [North] Plymouth. 3051.7759 2851 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3052.5567 And 3053.0146 2852 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3053.0146 (pause 0.40) 3053.4150 2853 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3053.4150 sometimes 3054.3660 2854 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3054.3660 (pause 0.64) 3055.0099 2855 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3055.0099 we would go to 3056.3345 2856 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3056.3345 (pause 1.03) 3057.3689 2857 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3057.3689 the capital 3058.2764 2858 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3058.2764 (pause 0.77) 3059.0514 2859 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3059.0514 which was on West Main. 3060.4025 2860 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3060.4025 (pause 0.63) 3061.0312 2861 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3061.0312 So we had choices that we liked to go. 3063.5378 2862 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3063.5378 (pause 0.42) 3063.9548 2863 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3063.9548 But my favorite 3064.9191 2864 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3064.9191 (pause 0.56) 3065.4830 2865 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3065.4830 was the RKO Palace. 3067.4416 2866 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3067.4416 (pause 0.78) 3068.2190 2867 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3068.2190 Cause it was like walking into a palace. 3070.9706 2868 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3070.9706 (pause 0.53) 3071.4987 2869 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3071.4987 Beautiful long drapes, velvety drapes, and 3074.9529 2870 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3074.9529 (pause 0.30) 3075.2532 2871 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3075.2532 chandeliers and carpeted floors. 3078.0359 2872 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3078.0359 (pause 0.40) 3078.4397 2873 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3078.4397 And you had a long- 3079.5307 2874 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3079.5307 (pause 0.75) 3080.2848 2875 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3080.2848 look at that- 3080.9429 2876 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3080.9429 (pause 0.13) 3081.0764 2877 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3081.0764 You so [embarrassing.] 3082.2976 2878 ROC_int_01 3082.2308 [] 3083.1351 2879 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3083.1217 We had a long walk 3084.5316 2880 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3084.7600 before you get to the concession stand. 3087.2068 2881 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3087.2068 (pause 0.47) 3087.6770 2882 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3087.6770 And then you 3088.4777 2883 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3088.4777 (pause 0.38) 3088.8548 2884 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3088.8548 could go in and find a seat. 3090.7109 2885 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3090.7109 (pause 0.96) 3091.6727 2886 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3091.6727 And I liked cause I could sit upstairs or I could sit downstairs. 3095.9844 2887 ROC_int_01 3096.3548 [Mm-hm.] 3096.7852 2888 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3096.3648 [I was in] New York state. 3097.7728 2889 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3098.8294 And that was- 3099.7136 2890 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3099.7136 (pause 0.29) 3100.0047 2891 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3100.0047 that was really nice. 3101.2660 2892 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3101.2660 (pause 0.66) 3101.9299 2893 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3101.9299 3101.9766 2894 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3101.9766 (pause 0.10) 3102.0767 2895 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3102.0767 My grandmother and I 3103.9686 2896 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3103.9686 (pause 0.20) 3104.1721 2897 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3104.1721 came up here 3105.2634 2898 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3105.2634 (pause 1.28) 3106.5386 2899 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3106.5386 yeah they had the RKO Palace, the RKO Temple, 3109.9737 2900 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3109.9737 (pause 0.92) 3110.8962 2901 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3110.8962 The RKO? 3112.2149 2902 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3112.2149 (pause 1.12) 3113.3327 2903 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3113.3327 The other one was on East Avenue. 3115.6445 2904 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3115.6445 (pause 1.59) 3117.2306 2905 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3117.2306 Oh it was so many movies. 3118.9723 2906 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3118.9723 (pause 1.00) 3119.9700 2907 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3119.9700 Um, 3120.5305 2908 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3120.5305 (pause 0.40) 3120.9309 2909 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3120.9309 I lost my train of thought. 3122.4791 2910 ROC_int_01 3128.0620 I 3128.4457 2911 ROC_int_01 3128.4457 (pause 0.12) 3128.5658 2912 ROC_int_01 3128.5658 think you were talking about 3130.3617 2913 ROC_int_01 3130.3617 (pause 0.98) 3131.3460 2914 ROC_int_01 3131.3460 your favorite movie [theaters.] 3133.5515 2915 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3133.2112 [Oh], yeah the- 3134.0720 2916 ROC_int_01 3134.1988 [Yeah.] 3134.5058 2917 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3134.4090 [Yeah.] 3134.8728 2918 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3135.5827 And at the movie when you went then 3137.6463 2919 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3137.6463 (pause 1.36) 3139.0110 2920 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3139.0110 you got a choice of 3140.8468 2921 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3140.8468 (pause 0.65) 3141.4967 2922 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3141.4967 you- you always had two full length 3143.6430 2923 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3143.6430 (pause 0.15) 3143.7898 2924 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3143.7898 movies. 3144.4211 2925 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3144.4211 (pause 0.71) 3145.1278 2926 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3145.1278 And you had 3145.9252 2927 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3145.9252 (pause 0.15) 3146.0720 2928 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3146.0720 I don't know how many cartoons, 3147.9572 2929 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3147.9572 (pause 0.63) 3148.5920 2930 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3148.5920 then you had the coming attractions. 3150.8875 2931 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3150.8875 (pause 0.57) 3151.4581 2932 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3151.4581 You had 3152.1454 2933 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3152.1454 (pause 0.29) 3152.4357 2934 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3152.4357 uh, 3152.9662 2935 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3152.9662 (pause 0.34) 3153.3066 2936 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3153.3066 what they call serials, 3154.8389 2937 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3154.8389 (pause 0.29) 3155.1325 2938 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3155.1325 which was chapters. 3156.4880 2939 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3156.4880 (pause 1.02) 3157.5115 2940 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3157.5115 And- 3158.0086 2941 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3158.0086 (pause 0.37) 3158.3823 2942 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3158.3823 and you always had a western. 3160.0448 2943 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3160.0448 (pause 0.50) 3160.5453 2944 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3160.5453 You got all of that for your money. 3162.7908 2945 ROC_int_01 3163.3179 Wow. 3163.9419 2946 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3164.1721 Every week. 3165.1197 2947 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3165.1197 (pause 0.52) 3165.6402 2948 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3165.6402 And movies would change 3167.2526 2949 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3167.2526 (pause 0.34) 3167.5963 2950 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3167.5963 frequently. 3168.4204 2951 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3168.4204 (pause 0.80) 3169.2179 2952 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3169.2179 They didn't stay there for weeks like they do here, like they do now. 3172.8721 2953 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3172.8721 (pause 0.30) 3173.1725 2954 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3173.1725 They would change maybe weekly. 3174.9810 2955 ROC_int_01 3175.0777 Mm. 3175.3480 2956 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3175.7417 And my favorite western 3177.4000 2957 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3177.4000 (pause 0.28) 3177.6769 2958 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3177.6769 was Lash LaRue. 3178.9991 2959 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3178.9991 (pause 0.65) 3179.6463 2960 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3179.6463 He was a little short man and he used a whip. 3182.2422 2961 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3182.2422 (pause 0.33) 3182.5758 2962 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3182.5758 And he rode a donkey. 3183.7378 2963 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3183.7378 (pause 0.19) 3183.9313 2964 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3183.9313 [] 3185.5329 2965 ROC_int_01 3184.2083 [] 3185.0457 2966 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3185.8465 But he was supposed to be a real cowboy. 3188.1512 2967 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3188.1512 (pause 0.66) 3188.8127 2968 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3188.8127 And my other favorite was Johnny Mack Brown. 3191.7675 2969 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3191.7675 (pause 1.64) 3193.4114 2970 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3193.4114 And my 3193.9853 2971 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3193.9853 (pause 0.94) 3194.9262 2972 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3194.9262 special favorite was Roy Rogers 3197.6763 2973 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3197.6763 (pause 0.11) 3197.7898 2974 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3197.7898 and Dale Evans. You ever hear of them? 3199.6605 2975 ROC_int_01 3199.7550 They sound familiar, my mom [watched westerns] 3202.0805 2976 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3201.1330 [Well when they got] married 3203.0057 2977 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3204.8141 I didn't talk to my mother- I was so hurt for so long 3209.1125 2978 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3209.1125 (pause 0.33) 3209.4461 2979 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3209.4461 cause she wouldn't let me go to they wedding. 3211.5348 2980 ROC_int_01 3211.9452 Aw. 3212.6092 2981 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3212.9295 In Hollywood (laughing). [] 3216.2736 2982 ROC_int_01 3214.1981 [] 3215.9798 2983 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3216.7641 And it may not even been in Hollywood. I was just assuming it was Hollywood cause that's where they mee- made movies. 3222.5272 2984 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3222.5272 (pause 0.70) 3223.2317 2985 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3223.2317 My mother would not let me go to their wedding. 3225.5871 2986 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3225.5871 (pause 1.05) 3226.6358 2987 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3226.6358 And I understand now cause 3228.3342 2988 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3228.3342 (pause 0.22) 3228.5577 2989 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3228.5577 you know, I've understood that a long time. 3230.8032 2990 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3230.8032 (pause 0.20) 3231.0068 2991 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3231.0068 They didn't know me I didn't know them. 3232.7460 2992 ROC_int_01 3232.8761 Mm-hm. 3233.2549 2993 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3233.2064 Roy Rogers and Dale Evans, they got married, I was so hurt. 3236.7232 2994 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3237.0201 I couldn't go to they wedding. (laughing) 3238.9628 2995 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3238.9628 (pause 1.14) 3240.1006 2996 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3240.1006 That's how crazy I was back [then. I] was sincere. I wanted to go to that wedding. 3244.8177 2997 ROC_int_01 3241.9824 [] 3242.4095 2998 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3244.8861 3245.3132 2999 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3245.3132 (pause 0.69) 3246.0072 3000 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3246.0072 So she bought me a movie magazine that had pictures in it. 3249.6251 3001 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3249.6251 (pause 1.09) 3250.7186 3002 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3250.7186 So I wish I'd have saved that. 3252.7906 3003 ROC_int_01 3252.7839 3253.0375 3004 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3254.1086 So let's see, oh the bridges. 3256.3798 3005 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3256.3798 (pause 0.44) 3256.8187 3006 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3256.8187 Over on this side of town, 3258.4102 3007 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3258.4102 (pause 1.28) 3259.6915 3008 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3259.6915 they had a lot of bridges in the neighborhood. 3262.2065 3009 ROC_int_01 3262.5217 Hm? 3262.8054 3010 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3262.8054 On the other side, 3263.9954 3011 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3264.6672 they were mostly in white neighborhoods. 3266.8001 3012 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3266.8001 (pause 0.07) 3266.8668 3013 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3266.8668 The bridges that crossed 3268.3382 3014 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3268.3382 (pause 0.11) 3268.4517 3015 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3268.4517 s- 3268.7253 3016 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3268.7253 (pause 0.37) 3269.0923 3017 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3269.0923 streets 3269.7696 3018 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3269.7696 (pause 0.61) 3270.3836 3019 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3270.3836 and the- 3270.7539 3020 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3270.7539 (pause 0.67) 3271.4212 3021 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3271.4212 my favorite bridge, 3272.6858 3022 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3272.6858 (pause 0.56) 3273.2412 3023 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3273.2412 was over Bronson Avenue. 3275.1163 3024 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3275.1163 (pause 0.25) 3275.3666 3025 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3275.3666 Which, you know, now is called McCree. 3277.2885 3026 ROC_int_01 3277.7156 Yeah. 3278.0654 3027 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3278.1117 Okay. 3278.5855 3028 ROC_int_01 3278.6465 Mm-hm. 3279.0180 3029 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3279.9014 W- we didn't do bad things, but we'd go up under the bridge. 3283.3118 3030 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3283.3118 (pause 0.55) 3283.8619 3031 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3283.8619 and every- any, 3284.8871 3032 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3284.8871 (pause 0.20) 3285.0839 3033 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3285.0839 you know, 3285.5544 3034 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3285.5544 (pause 0.06) 3285.6178 3035 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3285.6178 kids would just congregate under the bridge, we had no where else to go. 3289.0444 3036 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3289.0444 (pause 0.76) 3289.8059 3037 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3289.8059 We didn't have family rooms and 3291.6810 3038 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3291.6810 (pause 0.31) 3291.9913 3039 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3291.9913 patios and stuff like that. 3293.9332 3040 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3293.9332 (pause 0.49) 3294.4237 3041 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3294.4237 And people lived in apartments, 3296.2596 3042 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3296.2596 (pause 0.52) 3296.7801 3043 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3296.7801 and if 3297.3140 3044 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3297.3140 (pause 0.11) 3297.4208 3045 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3297.4208 your parents sitting there, 3298.8255 3046 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3298.8255 (pause 0.53) 3299.3526 3047 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3299.3526 you can't bring your company in there. You wanna talk or something, you couldn't go in your bedroom. 3304.0247 3048 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3304.0247 (pause 0.52) 3304.5485 3049 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3304.5485 You got to sit there with your parents, so 3306.5638 3050 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3306.5638 (pause 0.54) 3307.1077 3051 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3307.1077 we would all go under the bridges. 3309.0437 3052 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3309.0437 (pause 0.67) 3309.7144 3053 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3309.7144 And 3310.1381 3054 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3310.1381 (pause 0.89) 3311.0323 3055 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3311.0323 certain kids had certain bridges they liked to be under. 3314.2229 3056 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3314.2229 (pause 0.59) 3314.8168 3057 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3314.8168 And we had boys that go from bridge to bridge, 3317.8965 3058 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3317.8965 (pause 0.22) 3318.1134 3059 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3318.1134 telling 3318.6105 3060 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3318.6105 (pause 0.24) 3318.8508 3061 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3318.8508 dirty jokes. 3319.7959 3062 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3319.7959 (pause 0.38) 3320.1796 3063 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3320.1796 3321.8111 3064 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3321.8111 (pause 0.66) 3322.4751 3065 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3322.4751 And we would laugh and 3323.8732 3066 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3323.8732 (pause 0.40) 3324.2702 3067 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3324.2702 somebody might have a 3325.7458 3068 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3325.7458 (pause 0.09) 3325.8392 3069 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3325.8392 a k- a bottle of 3327.1705 3070 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3327.1705 (pause 0.49) 3327.6610 3071 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3327.6610 Pepsi or Coke or something and we'd share it. 3330.6606 3072 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3330.6606 (pause 0.16) 3330.8243 3073 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3330.8243 And bag of peanuts and stuff like that. 3333.1065 3074 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3333.1065 (pause 0.35) 3333.4536 3075 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3333.4536 It was just fun. 3334.4545 3076 ROC_int_01 3334.7415 [Mm-hm.] 3335.1522 3077 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3335.0484 [We] had nothing else to do. 3336.2738 3078 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3336.8043 So that's- 3337.1546 3079 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3337.1546 (pause 0.09) 3337.2447 3080 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3337.2447 that's what we did. 3338.1957 3081 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3338.1957 (pause 0.44) 3338.6328 3082 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3338.6328 And when it was time to go home, I'd start walking and walk all the way over 3342.7009 3083 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3342.7009 (pause 0.40) 3343.1013 3084 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3343.1013 across town. 3343.9721 3085 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3343.9721 (pause 0.93) 3344.9030 3086 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3344.9030 3344.9531 3087 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3344.9531 (pause 0.83) 3345.7872 3088 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3345.7872 So um, 3347.0484 3089 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3347.0484 (pause 1.64) 3348.6875 3090 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3348.6875 then over here 3349.8720 3091 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3349.8720 (pause 1.05) 3350.9230 3092 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3350.9230 o- on my side of town, 3352.5213 3093 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3352.5213 (pause 0.32) 3352.8449 3094 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3352.8449 they had what they called jukes. 3354.4306 3095 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3354.4306 (pause 0.60) 3355.0279 3096 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3355.0279 You know what that is? 3355.9020 3097 ROC_int_01 3355.9287 Mm-mm. 3356.3458 3098 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3356.8229 It's a place where they have a big juke box 3359.4989 3099 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3359.4989 (pause 0.75) 3360.2471 3100 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3360.2471 and 3360.6508 3101 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3360.6508 (pause 0.63) 3361.2814 3102 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3361.2814 you know what a juke box [is?] 3362.8063 3103 ROC_int_01 3362.6995 [Mm-hm], 3363.0550 3104 ROC_int_01 3363.2167 yeah. 3363.5169 3105 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3363.6170 So that's what 3364.5346 3106 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3364.5346 (pause 0.62) 3365.1585 3107 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3365.1585 we would do. You punch 3366.5841 3108 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3366.5841 (pause 0.24) 3366.8243 3109 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3366.8243 your- 3367.1246 3110 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3367.1246 (pause 0.43) 3367.5584 3111 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3367.5584 the- 3367.7319 3112 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3367.7319 (pause 0.32) 3368.0489 3113 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3368.0489 the songs you wanna hear, 3369.5001 3114 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3369.5001 (pause 0.76) 3370.2577 3115 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3370.2577 and everybody would dance. 3371.9093 3116 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3371.9093 (pause 0.52) 3372.4273 3117 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3372.4273 And ju- 3372.7676 3118 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3372.7676 (pause 0.49) 3373.2581 3119 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3373.2581 just sit around 3374.4326 3120 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3374.4326 (pause 0.31) 3374.7462 3121 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3374.7462 and talk. 3375.3801 3122 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3375.3801 (pause 0.81) 3376.1876 3123 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3376.1876 And 3376.6247 3124 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3376.6247 (pause 1.10) 3377.7266 3125 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3377.7266 they had one next door to my house then- 3380.3725 3126 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3380.3725 (pause 0.31) 3380.6861 3127 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3380.6861 his name was Georgia Boy. 3382.3159 3128 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3382.3159 (pause 0.99) 3383.3020 3129 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3383.3020 Big old man named Georgia Boy. He didn't play with no- 3386.2991 3130 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3386.2991 (pause 0.34) 3386.6394 3131 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3386.6394 you didn't in here in his place acting up either. 3389.6711 3132 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3389.6711 (pause 0.55) 3390.2171 3133 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3390.2171 And the other one name was Bop. 3391.9788 3134 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3391.9788 (pause 0.36) 3392.3391 3135 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3392.3391 It was Bop's Blue Heaven. 3393.9040 3136 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3393.9040 (pause 0.09) 3393.9974 3137 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3393.9974 3395.0851 3138 ROC_int_01 3395.1781 3395.5552 3139 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3395.5184 He sold 3396.3759 3140 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3396.5361 records. 3397.2435 3141 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3397.2435 (pause 0.63) 3397.8707 3142 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3397.8707 But I think he sold something else, but. 3399.9127 3143 ROC_int_01 3400.2397 Mm. 3400.5503 3144 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3400.5433 But we didn't 3401.2474 3145 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3401.8621 it did- it wasn't our business, so. 3403.6205 3146 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3403.6205 (pause 0.72) 3404.3445 3147 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3404.3445 But we think Bop sold something else. 3406.8336 3148 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3406.8336 (pause 0.96) 3407.7944 3149 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3407.7944 And 3408.3917 3150 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3408.3917 (pause 0.87) 3409.2592 3151 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3409.2592 that was a lot of fun too. 3410.8904 3152 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3410.8904 (pause 0.47) 3411.3646 3153 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3411.3646 And then we had one friend, his name was /RD-NAME-2/ 3414.1114 3154 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3414.1114 (pause 0.82) 3414.9289 3155 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3414.9289 /RD-NAME-2/, he went 3416.1997 3156 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3416.1997 (pause 0.15) 3416.3498 3157 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3416.3498 to the war, 3417.5616 3158 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3417.5616 (pause 1.10) 3418.6587 3159 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3418.6587 and he came back 3420.0276 3160 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3420.0276 (pause 0.56) 3420.5914 3161 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3420.5914 and he was smoking reefer. 3422.3431 3162 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3422.3431 (pause 0.73) 3423.0772 3163 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3423.0772 And we were scared of him. 3424.3851 3164 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3424.3851 (pause 0.17) 3424.5553 3165 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3424.5553 Everybody was scared of him. 3426.0142 3166 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3426.0142 (pause 0.36) 3426.3712 3167 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3426.3712 So he was like ostracized, nobody had anything to do with him. 3430.1049 3168 ROC_int_01 3430.2951 Hm. 3430.6287 3169 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3430.9891 And he 3431.8528 3170 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3431.8528 (pause 0.20) 3432.0539 3171 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3432.0539 kept doing what he was doing til he died. 3434.5267 3172 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3434.5267 (pause 0.63) 3435.1573 3173 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3435.1573 So that was kind of scary 3437.0599 3174 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3437.0599 (pause 0.22) 3437.2760 3175 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3437.2760 to have somebody using 3438.7664 3176 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3438.7664 (pause 0.35) 3439.1120 3177 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3439.1120 drugs. 3439.7905 3178 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3439.7905 (pause 0.58) 3440.3698 3179 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3440.3698 Boy if we could have that today. 3442.2850 3180 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3442.2850 (pause 0.07) 3442.3518 3181 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3442.3518 3443.2460 3182 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3443.2460 (pause 0.33) 3443.5738 3183 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3443.5738 Wouldn't that be something? 3444.7016 3184 ROC_int_01 3444.9118 Mm-hm. 3445.5090 3185 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3445.6992 But, 3445.9661 3186 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3445.9661 (pause 0.46) 3446.4232 3187 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3446.4232 that's the way it was back then, we were scared of 'em. 3449.1492 3188 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3449.1492 (pause 1.08) 3450.2298 3189 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3450.2298 So, um, 3451.2617 3190 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3451.2617 (pause 0.41) 3451.6679 3191 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3451.6679 and another thing, um, 3453.4129 3192 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3453.4129 (pause 1.32) 3454.7350 3193 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3454.7350 we were more accepting of people 3457.2308 3194 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3457.2308 (pause 0.45) 3457.6812 3195 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3457.6812 same sex 3458.6129 3196 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3458.6129 (pause 0.46) 3459.0693 3197 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3459.0693 being 3459.6398 3198 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3459.6398 (pause 0.60) 3460.2379 3199 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3460.2379 in love or caring about each other [too.] 3462.3866 3200 ROC_int_01 3462.2332 [Really?] 3462.9972 3201 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3462.9972 That wasn't a issue 3464.3886 3202 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3464.8090 back then. I don't know how that got started. 3467.3256 3203 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3467.3256 (pause 0.74) 3468.0697 3204 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3468.0697 Um, 3468.6035 3205 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3468.6035 (pause 0.92) 3469.5244 3206 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3469.5244 and we had two of 'em that come to our house and borrow my mother's clothes, her fur coats and all these 3475.6846 3207 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3475.6846 (pause 0.43) 3476.1193 3208 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3476.1193 nice clothes my mother had. 3477.7209 3209 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3477.7209 (pause 1.06) 3478.7839 3210 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3478.7839 One name was Sue, 3480.0146 3211 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3480.0146 (pause 0.63) 3480.6424 3212 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3480.6424 And the other one name was Manny. 3482.4016 3213 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3482.4016 (pause 0.55) 3482.9521 3214 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3482.9521 And I remember them as if it was last week. 3485.8750 3215 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3485.8750 (pause 0.47) 3486.3454 3216 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3486.3454 And Sue was a little lady, little one, and 3488.9588 3217 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3488.9588 (pause 0.14) 3489.1023 3218 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3489.1023 this- she'd always walk like this. 3491.4736 3219 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3491.4736 (pause 0.64) 3492.1186 3220 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3492.1186 And she lived on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ up over the police precinct. 3496.1466 3221 ROC_int_01 3496.4903 Mm. 3496.8273 3222 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3497.1910 And Manny would visit her, so they- 3499.6502 3223 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3499.6502 (pause 0.20) 3499.8544 3224 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3499.8544 They may have been a couple or 3501.6728 3225 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3501.6728 (pause 0.17) 3501.8463 3226 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3501.8463 they just- 3502.3969 3227 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3502.3969 (pause 0.40) 3502.8006 3228 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3502.8006 I don't know what they did. 3503.8750 3229 ROC_int_01 3504.2854 Mm-hm. 3504.7658 3230 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3504.7058 But, 3504.9794 3231 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3505.8310 that wasn't a issue back then. 3507.6016 3232 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3507.6016 (pause 0.71) 3508.3135 3233 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3508.3135 And we had police stations 3510.1186 3234 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3510.1186 (pause 0.85) 3510.9727 3235 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3510.9727 everywhere. 3511.6461 3236 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3511.6461 (pause 1.59) 3513.2391 3237 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3513.2391 Everywhere. 3513.9498 3238 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3513.9498 (pause 0.25) 3514.1975 3239 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3514.1975 We had one on Bronson. 3515.6894 3240 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3515.6894 (pause 0.55) 3516.2395 3241 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3516.2395 We had 'em on um, 3517.8811 3242 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3517.8811 (pause 0.64) 3518.5217 3243 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3518.5217 Jefferson. 3519.3292 3244 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3519.3292 (pause 0.64) 3519.9698 3245 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3519.9698 Thurston. 3520.7606 3246 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3520.7606 (pause 0.34) 3521.1051 3247 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3521.1051 They were everywhere. 3522.1369 3248 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3522.1369 (pause 0.53) 3522.6666 3249 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3522.6666 Just like 3523.1904 3250 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3523.1904 (pause 1.05) 3524.2433 3251 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3524.2433 see neighborhoods had movies. 3526.2526 3252 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3526.2526 (pause 0.76) 3527.0101 3253 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3527.0101 My- 3527.3138 3254 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3527.3138 (pause 0.13) 3527.4406 3255 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3527.4406 my g- nephew, 3528.4882 3256 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3528.4882 (pause 0.56) 3529.0521 3257 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3529.0521 /RD-NAME-2/'s brother, 3530.0998 3258 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3530.0998 (pause 0.46) 3530.5636 3259 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3530.5636 his church is on 3532.1360 3260 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3532.1360 (pause 0.27) 3532.4096 3261 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3532.4096 /RD-ADDRESS-1/ Street. 3533.1636 3262 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3533.1636 (pause 0.48) 3533.6408 3263 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3533.6408 And that used to be the World Theater. 3535.8696 3264 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3535.8696 (pause 0.25) 3536.1198 3265 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3536.1198 That was the name of it. 3537.1475 3266 ROC_int_01 3537.1842 [Oh.] 3537.5913 3267 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3537.2609 [The World.] 3537.9683 3268 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3539.6107 They had 3540.3214 3269 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3540.3214 (pause 0.80) 3541.1189 3270 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3541.1189 movies on Jeff- Joseph Avenue, 3543.7543 3271 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3543.7543 (pause 0.16) 3543.9157 3272 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3543.9157 Clinton Avenue, 3545.0235 3273 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3545.0235 (pause 0.89) 3545.9177 3274 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3545.9177 Jefferson Avenue. I used to live across from one on 3549.1075 3275 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3549.1075 (pause 0.27) 3549.3811 3276 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3549.3811 Jefferson Avenue. 3550.5574 3277 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3550.5574 (pause 0.73) 3551.2837 3278 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3551.2837 That- 3551.5807 3279 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3551.5807 (pause 0.17) 3551.7509 3280 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3551.7509 when it closed, it- 3552.8953 3281 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3552.8953 (pause 0.23) 3553.1289 3282 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3553.1289 it- 3553.3624 3283 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3553.3624 (pause 0.11) 3553.4692 3284 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3553.4692 it was a vending company. 3554.9015 3285 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3554.9015 (pause 0.58) 3555.4798 3286 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3555.4798 There was a movie theater right there on 3557.8264 3287 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3557.8264 (pause 0.91) 3558.7371 3288 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3558.7371 uh, 3559.4378 3289 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3559.4378 (pause 0.33) 3559.7681 3290 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3559.7681 Jefferson and 3561.2729 3291 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3561.2729 (pause 2.60) 3563.8687 3292 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3563.8687 Bronson. 3564.5226 3293 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3564.5226 (pause 0.70) 3565.2233 3294 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3565.2233 It's a church now. 3566.4445 3295 ROC_int_01 3566.5846 Mm-hm. 3567.1796 3296 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3567.2519 Uh, it's been a church a long time. 3569.1413 3297 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3569.1413 (pause 0.28) 3569.4249 3298 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3569.4249 You know where Gladys sell 3570.8796 3299 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3570.8796 (pause 0.44) 3571.3201 3300 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3571.3201 chicken sandwiches [and pies] 3573.0651 3301 ROC_int_01 3572.3803 [Mm-hm.] 3572.7840 3302 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3573.3787 next door? 3574.2029 3303 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3574.2029 (pause 1.02) 3575.2206 3304 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3575.2206 That big brick? That was a movie- 3576.9356 3305 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3576.9356 (pause 0.23) 3577.1691 3306 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3577.1691 [movie theater.] 3577.9732 3307 ROC_int_01 3577.3159 [Oh wow.] 3578.1663 3308 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3578.4203 [Mm-hm.] 3578.9141 3309 ROC_int_01 3578.6606 [Man], you guys had a lot of them. 3580.1787 3310 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3580.2329 Oh yeah, they was everywhere. And you didn't- you didn't have a car that's okay. 3584.3240 3311 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3584.3240 (pause 0.28) 3584.6072 3312 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3584.6072 you could still go to the movie. 3586.0352 3313 ROC_int_01 3586.0219 Mm. 3586.3489 3314 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3586.8268 It wouldn't be the movie that you'd see downtown this week. 3590.2235 3315 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3590.2235 (pause 0.49) 3590.7139 3316 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3590.7139 But it would be a 3591.8117 3317 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3591.8117 (pause 0.35) 3592.1654 3318 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3592.1654 a movie 3592.7960 3319 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3592.7960 (pause 0.72) 3593.5142 3320 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3593.5142 and you'd get the same 3594.6720 3321 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3594.6720 (pause 0.32) 3594.9889 3322 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3594.9889 quality. 3595.6062 3323 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3595.6062 (pause 0.50) 3596.1100 3324 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3596.1100 You'd get the movie, the- 3597.5147 3325 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3597.5147 (pause 0.68) 3598.1921 3326 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3598.1921 the western, the m- 3599.3490 3327 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3599.3490 (pause 0.30) 3599.6468 3328 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3599.6468 the movie, the cartoons, coming attraction, the chapters. 3603.8209 3329 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3603.8209 (pause 0.80) 3604.6250 3330 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3604.6250 Now they call them chapters, we used to call them serials. 3607.5687 3331 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3607.5687 (pause 0.69) 3608.2627 3332 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3608.2627 So. 3608.7365 3333 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3608.7365 (pause 0.41) 3609.1502 3334 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3609.1502 I know the meaning of the word t- 3610.7485 3335 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3610.7485 (pause 0.08) 3610.8319 3336 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3610.8319 3611.3198 3337 ROC_int_01 3611.2331 [/???/.] 3611.7345 3338 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3611.4600 [Didn't] know back then. 3613.4308 3339 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3614.6464 So. 3615.1736 3340 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3615.1736 (pause 1.21) 3616.3814 3341 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3616.3814 I don't know what else to tell you. 3618.0920