Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 ROC_int_01 0.2753 [Oh] 0.5087 2 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 0.3403 [You could] ask [me some questions.] 2.0704 3 ROC_int_01 0.9017 [yeah.] 1.4124 4 ROC_int_01 1.4124 (pause 0.28) 1.6953 5 ROC_int_01 1.6953 [Okay], great. [Yeah, well] you told me a lot of really great things and I [just wanted] to expand on some parts, so [if you could just] /??/, for example, like, 8.9639 6 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 2.6321 [Okay.] 3.1291 7 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 3.1291 (pause 2.20) 5.3304 8 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 5.3304 [Okay.] 6.0275 9 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 6.0275 (pause 1.16) 7.1896 10 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 7.1896 [Okay.] 7.7072 11 ROC_int_01 9.2375 there wasn't a lot of discrimination against 11.4779 12 ROC_int_01 11.4779 (pause 0.16) 11.6396 13 ROC_int_01 11.6396 same sex couples. 13.0045 14 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 12.9700 [Mm-hm.] 13.5195 15 ROC_int_01 13.2426 [Was-] uh, did African Americans experience, uh, discriminatio- much discrimination then or? 18.8679 16 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 20.1656 I think we did 21.7327 17 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 21.7327 (pause 0.65) 22.3780 18 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 22.3780 but 22.6998 19 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 22.6998 (pause 0.35) 23.0480 20 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 23.0480 I can't tell you that 24.4161 21 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 24.4161 (pause 0.99) 25.4045 22 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 25.4045 I personally 26.5114 23 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 26.5114 (pause 0.60) 27.1159 24 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 27.1159 felt it. 27.7206 25 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 27.7206 (pause 1.64) 29.3593 26 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 29.3593 Um, 29.9480 27 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 29.9480 (pause 1.25) 31.2017 28 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 31.2017 but I'm sure- 32.1469 29 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 32.1469 (pause 0.92) 33.0673 30 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 33.0673 I'm sure we did. 34.0287 31 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 34.0287 (pause 0.46) 34.4843 32 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 34.4843 We probably couldn't 35.6308 33 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 35.6308 (pause 0.28) 35.9098 34 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 35.9098 live where we wanted to live 37.5908 35 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 37.5908 (pause 0.40) 37.9905 36 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 37.9905 or work where we wanted to work. 39.8260 37 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 39.8260 (pause 0.58) 40.4104 38 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 40.4104 But I'm sure that discrimination was there. 42.9710 39 ROC_int_01 43.0355 Mm-hm. 43.4833 40 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 44.1300 But if it had been 45.6142 41 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 45.6142 (pause 1.30) 46.9127 42 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 46.9127 46.9978 43 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 46.9978 (pause 1.18) 48.1778 44 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 48.1778 I probably woulda remember if it had been 50.6069 45 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 50.6069 (pause 0.48) 51.0878 46 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 51.0878 really bad. 52.0421 47 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 52.0421 (pause 0.34) 52.3802 48 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 52.3802 I would remember that. 53.4857 49 ROC_int_01 54.2070 Mm-hm. 54.7234 50 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 54.8643 Yup. 55.1899 51 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 55.1899 (pause 1.20) 56.3893 52 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 56.3893 It's a- it's some nice people have g- 58.6018 53 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 58.6018 (pause 0.08) 58.6850 54 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 58.6850 come through Rochester so- some nice white people. 61.7208 55 ROC_int_01 62.1553 Yeah. 62.4790 56 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 62.8066 So, 63.3206 57 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 63.3206 (pause 0.78) 64.1003 58 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 64.1003 um, 64.7056 59 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 64.7056 (pause 0.65) 65.3568 60 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 65.3568 but I'm sure it was there. 66.7560 61 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 66.7560 (pause 0.69) 67.4471 62 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 67.4471 But I think a lot of times 69.4244 63 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 69.4244 (pause 2.11) 71.5374 64 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 71.5374 it's who you know. 72.4765 65 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 72.4765 (pause 1.38) 73.8590 66 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 73.8590 And a lot of times our parents worked for them. 76.6108 67 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 76.6108 (pause 1.33) 77.9415 68 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 77.9415 You know. 78.3686 69 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 78.3686 (pause 0.83) 79.1944 70 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 79.1944 So, 79.7250 71 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 79.7250 (pause 0.70) 80.4260 72 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 80.4260 naturally not gonna distrip- discriminate us- against us in- 84.3318 73 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 84.3318 (pause 0.42) 84.7542 74 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 84.7542 Well, it- 85.1522 75 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 85.1522 (pause 0.66) 85.8155 76 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 85.8155 let me tell you something. Let me back up. 87.7546 77 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 87.7546 (pause 0.60) 88.3596 78 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 88.3596 Yes. 88.9400 79 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 88.9400 (pause 0.88) 89.8238 80 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 89.8238 But, it wasn't in Rochester. It was in 92.3018 81 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 92.3018 (pause 0.12) 92.4267 82 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 92.4267 Brighton. 93.1819 83 ROC_int_01 94.2266 Oh wow. 95.0226 84 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 94.9718 My mother, 95.7678 85 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 96.4477 worked in Brighton. 97.5587 86 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 97.5587 (pause 0.65) 98.2055 87 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 98.2055 Now, everybody- 99.2452 88 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 99.2452 (pause 0.17) 99.4131 89 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 99.4131 Did anybody you talk to tell you about Joseph Avenue? 102.2965 90 ROC_int_01 103.2418 Um. 104.1538 91 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 104.2940 That was, like, a mall. 105.6393 92 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 105.6393 (pause 0.58) 106.2176 93 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 106.2176 Cause [it was nothing but] stores up and down Joseph Avenue. 110.6536 94 ROC_int_01 106.5178 [I don't remember.] 107.5799 95 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 111.2401 You- anything you wanted, 112.6745 96 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 112.6745 (pause 0.41) 113.0891 97 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 113.0891 you go to Joseph Avenue. 114.4987 98 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 114.4987 (pause 0.40) 114.8967 99 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 114.8967 Our first, 115.6014 100 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 115.6014 (pause 1.02) 116.6213 101 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 116.6213 uh, black woman to work in a store on Joseph Avenue, 119.9069 102 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 119.9069 (pause 0.39) 120.2966 103 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 120.2966 died recently. 121.3869 104 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 121.3869 (pause 0.66) 122.0419 105 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 122.0419 Uh, her name was Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/. /RD-NAME-5/. 124.9278 106 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 124.9278 (pause 0.84) 125.7686 107 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 125.7686 And she 126.6226 108 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 126.6226 (pause 0.30) 126.9255 109 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 126.9255 was the first 127.8599 110 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 127.8599 (pause 1.55) 129.4145 111 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 129.4145 black person to have a job on Joseph Avenue. 132.6705 112 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 132.6705 (pause 0.21) 132.8795 113 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 132.8795 She worked at /RD-WORK-3/ 134.4562 114 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 134.4562 (pause 0.48) 134.9405 115 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 134.9405 Drug Store. 135.7447 116 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 135.7447 (pause 0.94) 136.6817 117 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 136.6817 And I remember Mrs. /RD-NAME-2/ she always wore these pretty 139.4101 118 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 139.4101 (pause 0.31) 139.7169 119 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 139.7169 necklace and matching earrings. 141.8230 120 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 141.8230 (pause 0.80) 142.6190 121 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 142.6190 And, she ca- 143.4150 122 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 143.4150 (pause 0.41) 143.8212 123 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 143.8212 She worked at /RD-WORK-3/, and she went on to become a school teacher. 148.0334 124 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 148.0334 (pause 0.81) 148.8433 125 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 148.8433 And she retired from /RD-WORK-5/ school on Barrington Street. 152.8881 126 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 152.8881 (pause 0.96) 153.8519 127 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 153.8519 So, 154.2789 128 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 154.2789 (pause 0.80) 155.0771 129 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 155.0771 yes, there was 156.1477 130 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 156.1477 (pause 1.70) 157.8459 131 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 157.8459 discrimination. 158.9811 132 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 158.9811 (pause 0.77) 159.7544 133 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 159.7544 Um, 160.2929 134 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 160.2929 (pause 2.39) 162.6809 135 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 162.6809 my mother, 163.3525 136 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 163.3525 (pause 0.51) 163.8652 137 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 163.8652 I told you, my mother did 165.1388 138 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 165.1388 (pause 0.39) 165.5285 139 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 165.5285 housework. 166.0982 140 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 166.0982 (pause 0.32) 166.4194 141 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 166.4194 Daywork for white people. 168.0230 142 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 168.0230 (pause 1.14) 169.1584 143 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 169.1584 And 169.5088 144 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 169.5088 (pause 0.50) 170.0135 145 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 170.0135 depending on what house she went to, 172.5170 146 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 172.5170 (pause 0.36) 172.8735 147 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 172.8735 I couldn't go inside, 174.3616 148 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 174.3616 (pause 0.67) 175.0288 149 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 175.0288 when she'd take me with her. 176.3233 150 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 176.3233 (pause 0.64) 176.9597 151 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 176.9597 So, 177.3836 152 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 177.3836 (pause 0.99) 178.3755 153 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 178.3755 on those days, 179.5231 154 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 179.5231 (pause 0.94) 180.4639 155 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 180.4639 when she go to a house where I couldn't go inside, 183.8804 156 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 183.8804 (pause 0.97) 184.8523 157 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 184.8523 I would have to go to the beach. 186.5521 158 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 186.5521 (pause 0.50) 187.0488 159 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 187.0488 Charlotte Beach. 188.0372 160 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 188.0372 (pause 1.09) 189.1297 161 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 189.1297 And, 189.5691 162 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 189.5691 (pause 0.75) 190.3153 163 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 190.3153 we would ride the bus til we get downtown, 192.9377 164 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 192.9377 (pause 0.56) 193.4932 165 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 193.4932 and she'd get a bus and go to Brighton. 195.4227 166 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 195.4227 (pause 0.38) 195.8041 167 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 195.8041 I get the bus and go out to Charlotte Beach. 198.1506 168 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 198.1506 (pause 0.66) 198.8084 169 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 198.8084 And, 199.1235 170 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 199.1235 (pause 1.29) 200.4170 171 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 200.4170 I don't think we met 201.6607 172 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 201.6607 (pause 0.89) 202.5515 173 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 202.5515 coming back cause we didn't know how to do that, 205.0486 174 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 205.0486 (pause 0.50) 205.5531 175 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 205.5531 or unless she said, 206.4202 176 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 206.4202 (pause 0.34) 206.7554 177 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 206.7554 you get on the bus at a certain time. I don't know how we- 209.9151 178 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 209.9151 (pause 0.96) 210.8790 179 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 210.8790 I don't even know if we came back home at the same time. 213.3593 180 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 213.3593 (pause 0.64) 213.9977 181 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 213.9977 But, that's what I felt. 215.5897 182 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 215.5897 (pause 0.81) 216.3990 183 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 216.3990 And, my mother, I know it hurt her. 218.5384 184 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 218.5384 (pause 0.83) 219.3634 185 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 219.3634 And, 219.6660 186 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 219.6660 (pause 0.78) 220.4494 187 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 220.4494 she have to- 221.0962 188 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 221.0962 (pause 0.27) 221.3615 189 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 221.3615 She h- 222.0165 190 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 222.0165 (pause 0.39) 222.4062 191 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 222.4062 took me to a gas station at the twelve corners, 225.5238 192 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 225.5238 (pause 0.60) 226.1239 193 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 226.1239 when I had to go to the bathroom. 227.6413 194 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 227.6413 (pause 0.55) 228.1885 195 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 228.1885 So, that was a problem for her 230.8003 196 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 230.8003 (pause 0.31) 231.1066 197 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 231.1066 to leave work. 232.0601 198 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 232.0601 (pause 0.58) 232.6366 199 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 232.6366 And walk me down 233.7995 200 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 233.7995 (pause 0.51) 234.3053 201 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 234.3053 to a gas station and go to bathroom. 236.2574 202 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 236.2574 (pause 0.90) 237.1612 203 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 237.1612 So, she started 238.3718 204 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 238.3718 (pause 0.86) 239.2341 205 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 239.2341 sending me to Charlotte Beach 241.0417 206 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 241.0417 (pause 0.71) 241.7501 207 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 241.7501 when she'd go to 242.5378 208 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 242.5378 (pause 0.21) 242.7451 209 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 242.7451 that particular house. 244.1961 210 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 244.1961 (pause 0.71) 244.9092 211 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 244.9092 And, 245.4232 212 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 245.4232 (pause 0.74) 246.1590 213 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 246.1590 246.2916 214 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 246.2916 (pause 0.23) 246.5238 215 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 246.5238 um, 246.9715 216 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 246.9715 (pause 0.29) 247.2617 217 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 247.2617 on other time- other days, 249.0859 218 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 249.0859 (pause 0.51) 249.5986 219 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 249.5986 I could sit out 250.4648 220 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 250.4648 (pause 0.81) 251.2774 221 ROC_se0_ag3_f_02 251.2774 on the step or something. 252.9108