Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 VLD_int_01 0.2301 So, 0.8841 2 VLD_int_01 0.8841 (pause 0.31) 1.1988 3 VLD_int_01 1.1988 let's talk a little bit about, 2.3599 4 VLD_int_01 2.3599 (pause 0.20) 2.5592 5 VLD_int_01 2.5592 Valdosta. 3.1572 6 VLD_int_01 3.1572 (pause 0.75) 3.9083 7 VLD_int_01 3.9083 You've always lived in Valdo- Well, until you moved away. 6.0310 8 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 6.2793 Yes. 6.6431 9 VLD_int_01 6.9228 Do you remember your childhood home? 8.3707 10 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 10.6849 The- 11.1570 11 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 11.1570 (pause 0.31) 11.4683 12 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 11.4683 I remember every 12.2062 13 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 12.2062 (pause 0.59) 12.7937 14 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 12.7937 I remember every place I lived as a child. 14.7093 15 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 14.7093 (pause 0.50) 15.2059 16 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 15.2059 I would say, 15.9928 17 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 15.9928 (pause 0.97) 16.9615 18 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 16.9615 the house I lived 18.0085 19 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 18.0085 (pause 0.42) 18.4294 20 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 18.4294 in on the East Side is the one that I 20.4123 21 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 20.4123 (pause 0.12) 20.5347 22 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 20.5347 spent the most time 21.7203 23 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 21.7203 (pause 0.70) 22.4189 24 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 22.4189 growing up 22.8490 25 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 22.8490 (pause 0.12) 22.9644 26 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 22.9644 and- 23.4155 27 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 23.4155 (pause 2.82) 26.2378 28 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 26.2378 But the 26.5420 29 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 26.5420 (pause 0.31) 26.8489 30 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 26.8489 place before that on /RD-ADDRESS-2/. 28.5450 31 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 28.5450 (pause 1.24) 29.7865 32 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 29.7865 Um, 30.2587 33 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 30.2587 (pause 0.37) 30.6259 34 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 30.6259 it's probably 31.3917 35 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 31.3917 (pause 0.72) 32.1078 36 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 32.1078 my favorite growing up, because that's when me and 35.2692 37 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 35.2692 (pause 0.44) 35.7125 38 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 35.7125 my brothers were 36.8596 39 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 36.8596 (pause 0.61) 37.4716 40 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 37.4716 that age where you go play outside and 39.1922 41 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 39.1922 (pause 1.18) 40.3734 42 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 40.3734 before video games and before 42.2836 43 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 42.2836 (pause 1.71) 43.9930 44 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 43.9930 spending so much time inside. We spent a lot of time outside. And 46.8143 45 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 46.8143 (pause 0.43) 47.2410 46 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 47.2410 probably some of our 48.2866 47 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 48.2866 (pause 0.62) 48.9021 48 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 48.9021 fondest and 49.8840 49 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 49.8840 (pause 0.98) 50.8667 50 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 50.8667 funniest memories are there. 52.2411 51 VLD_int_01 53.5481 So I didn't know- I didn't know you before- I didn't know where you live- I've never been to that house. So [describe-] first of all describe 58.9364 52 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 57.6294 [Mm.] 57.9126 53 VLD_int_01 60.1395 the house to me. 61.1536 54 VLD_int_01 61.1536 (pause 0.24) 61.3949 55 VLD_int_01 61.3949 When did you live there? 62.7449 56 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 63.2580 I don't remember the exact 64.7409 57 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 64.7409 (pause 0.10) 64.8388 58 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 64.8388 time. I remember moving to /RD-ADDRESS-4/ when we 67.2693 59 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 67.2693 (pause 0.13) 67.3944 60 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 67.3944 were 67.8770 61 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 67.8770 (pause 1.58) 69.4542 62 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 69.4542 I think we were middle school. 70.9895 63 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 70.9895 (pause 0.87) 71.8629 64 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 71.8629 When we moved there. 73.0030 65 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 73.0030 (pause 0.67) 73.6714 66 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 73.6714 Or just before I was, but 75.5757 67 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 75.5757 (pause 0.47) 76.0427 68 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 76.0427 /RD-ADDRESS-2/ was a duplex. 77.5810 69 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 77.5810 (pause 0.87) 78.4525 70 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 78.4525 78.5239 71 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 78.5239 (pause 0.38) 78.9084 72 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 78.9084 And growing up we've always lived within 81.4764 73 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 81.4764 (pause 0.30) 81.7760 74 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 81.7760 walking dis- distance of 83.4135 75 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 83.4135 (pause 0.82) 84.2385 76 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 84.2385 my mom's 84.9705 77 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 84.9705 (pause 0.55) 85.5225 78 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 85.5225 parents. So my grandparents on my mom's side. 87.4888 79 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 87.4888 (pause 0.43) 87.9168 80 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 87.9168 So we lived 88.9155 81 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 88.9155 (pause 0.45) 89.3639 82 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 89.3639 just around the corner from them. My grandparents moved over 91.8575 83 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 91.8575 (pause 0.51) 92.3723 84 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 92.3723 to the East Side. And then 94.1091 85 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 94.1091 (pause 0.86) 94.9731 86 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 94.9731 not too long afterwards we moved over there, but the 97.2372 87 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 97.2372 (pause 0.64) 97.8761 88 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 97.8761 place over on /RD-ADDRESS-2/ was 99.7866 89 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 99.7866 (pause 1.36) 101.1468 90 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 101.1468 where I was a kid. You know, we had other neighborhood kids that would come over. 104.2607 91 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 104.2607 (pause 0.60) 104.8561 92 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 104.8561 And 105.4404 93 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 105.4404 (pause 0.59) 106.0303 94 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 106.0303 as a black family thinking about 107.6120 95 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 107.6120 (pause 1.35) 108.9643 96 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 108.9643 the rules. Like when the streetlights come on, that- that's the time when I was in that house. Be inside 114.2633 97 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 114.2633 (pause 0.54) 114.8030 98 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 114.8030 before the streetlight come on. 116.0870 99 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 116.0870 (pause 0.68) 116.7693 100 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 116.7693 No going 117.5385 101 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 117.5385 (pause 0.25) 117.7866 102 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 117.7866 to somebody else's house. 119.0662 103 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 119.0662 (pause 0.79) 119.8602 104 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 119.8602 Had to ask for permission before you leave the yard. And stuff like that. 122.6328 105 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 122.6328 (pause 0.63) 123.2655 106 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 123.2655 So I enjoyed living there. It's where 126.0897 107 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 126.0897 (pause 0.63) 126.7161 108 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 126.7161 we had 127.3302 109 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 127.3302 (pause 0.63) 127.9567 110 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 127.9567 the best backyard ever. 129.3400 111 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 129.3400 (pause 0.36) 129.7016 112 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 129.7016 climbing trees. 130.6940 113 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 130.6940 (pause 0.08) 130.7746 114 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 130.7746 So, we would climb up in the trees together. 132.7534 115 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 132.7534 (pause 1.12) 133.8761 116 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 133.8761 We would play race cars, where our backyard had these two bushes in the middle. 138.8774 117 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 138.8774 (pause 1.44) 140.3165 118 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 140.3165 And so we'd r- 141.7477 119 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 141.7477 (pause 0.30) 142.0489 120 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 142.0489 we were told to rake the leaves. And we would rake, 144.6789 121 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 144.6789 (pause 0.28) 144.9581 122 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 144.9581 but we'd rake 'em into the 146.0498 123 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 146.0498 (pause 0.25) 146.2979 124 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 146.2979 shape of a track. So we would just 148.0037 125 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 148.0037 (pause 0.21) 148.2102 126 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 148.2102 rake 'em all to the outside into a circle around the two trees 151.6167 127 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 151.6167 (pause 0.36) 151.9753 128 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 151.9753 and that would be our racetrack. 152.9926 129 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 152.9926 (pause 0.56) 153.5509 130 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 153.5509 And we had big wheels and 154.8473 131 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 154.8473 (pause 1.21) 156.0586 132 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 156.0586 bicycles and me and 157.5721 133 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 157.5721 (pause 0.80) 158.3723 134 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 158.3723 my 158.6700 135 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 158.6700 (pause 0.37) 159.0360 136 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 159.0360 older brother and then the two younger brothers. Not the last one, he came along too late. 162.8278 137 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 162.8278 (pause 0.58) 163.4047 138 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 163.4047 But the rest of us would go outside, play. 165.0794 139 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 165.0794 (pause 1.01) 166.0923 140 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 166.0923 Um, 166.6010 141 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 166.6010 (pause 0.19) 166.7933 142 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 166.7933 go around the- 167.5252 143 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 167.5252 (pause 0.21) 167.7361 144 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 167.7361 the track. Race each other. 169.1317 145 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 169.1317 (pause 0.55) 169.6776 146 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 169.6776 Climb trees. Play 171.2779 147 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 171.2779 (pause 0.43) 171.7121 148 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 171.7121 Ninja Turtles. 172.9155 149 VLD_int_01 173.4197 H- how do you- how does one play 175.5163 150 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 175.8823 [] 176.5956 151 VLD_int_01 175.8885 [Ninja] Turtles? [I'm sorry-] 177.5891 152 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 177.2903 [Well] there were four of us. 178.5247 153 VLD_int_01 178.9980 Mm, okay. So there- Okay that makes sense. 180.7844 154 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 180.8340 And there are four Ninja Turtles. 182.1490 155 VLD_int_01 182.5212 So your sister didn't play? 183.5943 156 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 183.6625 No. 184.0595 157 VLD_int_01 184.1649 [Okay.] 184.5061 158 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 184.3014 [She] was too old.] 185.1468 159 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 185.9904 By that point. [She didn't-] 187.1007 160 VLD_int_01 186.5487 [/Wasn't/] 187.0821 161 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 187.2186 I don't ever remember her playing outside with us. 189.1973 162 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 189.1973 (pause 0.61) 189.8114 163 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 189.8114 It was just 190.4999 164 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 190.4999 (pause 0.32) 190.8181 165 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 190.8181 me, 191.2213 166 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 191.2213 (pause 0.40) 191.6182 167 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 191.6182 my older brother, and then the two next youngest 193.7706 168 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 193.7706 (pause 0.48) 194.2483 169 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 194.2483 that played outside together. There were four of us. So we each had the different weapon 197.9842 170 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 197.9842 (pause 0.50) 198.4804 171 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 198.4804 for (laughing) the Ninja [Turtles.] 200.1110 172 VLD_int_01 199.8265 [Which] one were you- who were you? 200.8685 173 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 201.0360 I was Donatello. 201.7866 174 VLD_int_01 201.7928 Oh yes. That's the best Ninja Turtle [ever.] 203.4632 175 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 203.1530 [I liked] the bo. 204.0152 176 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 204.4790 It was simple yet effective. 206.0877 177 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 206.0877 (pause 0.62) 206.7073 178 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 206.7073 And then you only had the other was the- 208.0223 179 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 208.0223 (pause 0.85) 208.8677 180 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 208.8677 the nunchucks, the sais and the 211.5535 181 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 211.5535 (pause 0.25) 211.8079 182 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 211.8079 katanas. So you know, the two sticks for the katan- You know what I mean, you get creative. 215.6368 183 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 215.6368 (pause 0.65) 216.2901 184 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 216.2901 So we had fun, 217.2081 185 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 217.2081 (pause 0.16) 217.3632 186 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 217.3632 um, 217.7939 187 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 217.7939 (pause 0.41) 218.2068 188 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 218.2068 and then we made the, um, 219.7407 189 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 219.7407 (pause 0.42) 220.1625 190 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 220.1625 there was a fence but the par- (laughing) 221.6512 191 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 221.6512 (pause 0.10) 221.7504 192 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 221.7504 part of the fence was broken 222.8111 193 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 222.8111 (pause 0.66) 223.4748 194 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 223.4748 so we took some nails and we nailed 225.5714 195 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 225.5714 (pause 0.36) 225.9268 196 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 225.9268 a board to it. Which was our steering wheel. So that was our turtle mobile. 229.3198 197 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 229.3198 (pause 0.74) 230.0641 198 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 230.0641 Don't,- 230.3370 199 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 230.3370 (pause 0.23) 230.5665 200 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 230.5665 don't question it. It was great. We had a fabulous (laughing) time. 233.1550 201 VLD_int_01 233.4589 [Hm.] 233.6781 202 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 233.4651 [But] that's what I remember most about /RD-ADDRESS-2/. It was where I was a kid. 236.2626 203 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 237.1124 We- we did have video games, but we couldn't stay on 'em all day. We had to go outside, had to play. 241.7477 204 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 241.7477 (pause 1.00) 242.7498 205 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 242.7498 And 243.1186 206 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 243.1186 (pause 1.12) 244.2369 207 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 244.2369 those are probably some of the 245.2914 208 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 245.2914 (pause 0.99) 246.2839 209 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 246.2839 fondest 246.9044 210 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 246.9044 (pause 0.26) 247.1647 211 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 247.1647 memories 247.8594 212 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 247.8594 (pause 0.64) 248.4983 213 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 248.4983 growing up 249.0628 214 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 249.0628 (pause 0.52) 249.5838 215 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 249.5838 that I have. 250.2413 216 VLD_int_01 251.0371 So let's back up, cause clearly I have 252.7119 217 VLD_int_01 252.7119 (pause 0.42) 253.1337 218 VLD_int_01 253.1337 put the cart before the horse. 254.2812 219 VLD_int_01 254.2812 (pause 0.19) 254.4735 220 VLD_int_01 254.4735 So let's talk about your family, cause you have a lot of siblings. 257.2046 221 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 257.2542 I do. 257.6264 222 VLD_int_01 257.6636 So tell me about your siblings. You don't have to necessarily tell me their names, cause they'll be redacted anyway. 261.9482 223 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 262.0041 262.5916 224 VLD_int_01 262.6091 Um, 263.3038 225 VLD_int_01 263.3038 (pause 0.17) 263.4713 226 VLD_int_01 263.4713 but you can, cause we're gonna beep them out. 264.8815 227 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 264.9446 [] 266.0032 228 VLD_int_01 265.3244 [Um], 266.0089 229 VLD_int_01 266.4216 cause it's probably easier to talk about them using their names. But, um, 269.3483 230 VLD_int_01 269.3483 (pause 0.18) 269.5238 231 VLD_int_01 269.5238 tell- tell me about your siblings. And tell me about your 271.8390 232 VLD_int_01 271.8390 (pause 0.19) 272.0315 233 VLD_int_01 272.0315 being in a big family. 273.2033 234 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 275.2124 So I have, older sister, older brother, then three younger brothers. 278.9373 235 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 278.9373 (pause 0.77) 279.7066 236 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 279.7066 And 280.5501 237 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 280.5501 (pause 1.70) 282.2540 238 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 282.2540 growing up, I guess I didn't know anything different than having a big family. I've always been a part of a big family. Lots of cousins. 287.9596 239 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 287.9596 (pause 0.88) 288.8427 240 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 288.8427 Lots of aunts, uncles. And 290.8240 241 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 290.8240 (pause 0.20) 291.0222 242 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 291.0222 I've just- 291.8597 243 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 291.8597 (pause 0.61) 292.4652 244 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 292.4652 don't know anything different, so people who are only children, or 295.5956 245 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 295.5956 (pause 0.57) 296.1617 246 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 296.1617 say, I know all of my cousins. I don't- I can't even say I know all of my cousins, my family's so big. 300.6050 247 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 300.6050 (pause 0.62) 301.2220 248 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 301.2220 So I'm just used to being part of a big family. 303.3279 249 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 303.3279 (pause 0.69) 304.0180 250 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 304.0180 But we- 304.5897 251 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 304.5897 (pause 1.37) 305.9596 252 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 305.9596 we have 306.4748 253 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 306.4748 (pause 1.75) 308.2240 254 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 308.2240 lots of interesting fun stories, I guess growing up. We 311.1615 255 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 311.1615 (pause 1.23) 312.3955 256 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 312.3955 early on, became I guess latchkey kids, you know. My sister was a little bit older, so she got to stay home with us 318.4182 257 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 318.4182 (pause 0.57) 318.9899 258 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 318.9899 more. 319.6636 259 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 319.6636 (pause 0.36) 320.0202 260 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 320.0202 Um, 320.6316 261 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 320.6316 (pause 0.25) 320.8863 262 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 320.8863 I don't really 321.6845 263 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 321.6845 (pause 0.15) 321.8368 264 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 321.8368 I remember having a babysitter, but not for very long. 324.2993 265 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 324.2993 (pause 0.53) 324.8314 266 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 324.8314 And then there was my sister that 326.2523 267 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 326.2523 (pause 1.00) 327.2481 268 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 327.2481 took on that role, pretty early on. 329.3539 269 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 329.3539 (pause 0.61) 329.9653 270 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 329.9653 But we had 330.5993 271 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 330.5993 (pause 2.40) 332.9990 272 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 332.9990 normal sibling, I guess issues. Like other siblings, we fought. 336.7805 273 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 336.7805 (pause 0.90) 337.6805 274 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 337.6805 But 337.9806 275 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 337.9806 (pause 0.80) 338.7788 276 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 338.7788 We also very protective of one another. 340.4878 277 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 340.4878 (pause 1.06) 341.5464 278 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 341.5464 My older sister 342.6616 279 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 342.6616 (pause 1.26) 343.9240 280 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 343.9240 being so much older, 345.2203 281 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 345.2203 (pause 1.13) 346.3520 282 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 346.3520 wasn't as into the kiddy stuff. And she kind of liked 349.8164 283 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 349.8164 (pause 0.50) 350.3146 284 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 350.3146 being in control. 351.1184 285 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 351.1184 (pause 0.67) 351.7859 286 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 351.7859 She liked having 352.6293 287 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 352.6293 (pause 0.67) 353.2973 288 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 353.2973 authority. 354.0332 289 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 354.0332 (pause 0.48) 354.5087 290 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 354.5087 So there were some summers where she- 356.9542 291 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 356.9542 (pause 0.89) 357.8481 292 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 357.8481 she's just interesting. She would do stuff like, cook 360.1861 293 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 360.1861 (pause 0.53) 360.7182 294 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 360.7182 something. We don't know what it was, but we had to taste it because she said so. 365.5747 295 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 365.5747 (pause 0.50) 366.0729 296 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 366.0729 Regardless of how it looked, smelled, or 368.6938 297 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 368.6938 (pause 0.27) 368.9594 298 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 368.9594 otherwise might not have looked so appetizing. 371.8691 299 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 371.8691 (pause 0.36) 372.2314 300 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 372.2314 But she was the older sister and so it was required. 375.3505 301 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 375.3505 (pause 1.09) 376.4425 302 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 376.4425 Yeah, coulda done without that. 378.4635 303 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 378.4635 (pause 0.25) 378.7182 304 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 378.7182 But we stuck together. 379.7202 305 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 379.7202 (pause 0.68) 380.4051 306 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 380.4051 The rest of us 381.3109 307 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 381.3109 (pause 0.37) 381.6840 308 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 381.6840 against 382.3237 309 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 382.3237 (pause 0.47) 382.7935 310 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 382.7935 her 383.3256 311 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 383.3256 (pause 0.23) 383.5577 312 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 383.5577 sometimes. 384.3672 313 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 384.3672 (pause 0.24) 384.6106 314 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 384.6106 Which, worked out sometimes. Sometimes it didn't. 386.5184 315 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 386.5184 (pause 1.10) 387.6217 316 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 387.6217 Um, then my older brother- 389.2917 317 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 389.2917 (pause 0.71) 389.9993 318 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 389.9993 I have a lot of 390.8427 319 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 390.8427 (pause 0.27) 391.1145 320 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 391.1145 respect for my older brother, cause my dad 393.1297 321 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 393.1297 (pause 1.60) 394.7256 322 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 394.7256 wasn't 395.1784 323 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 395.1784 (pause 0.38) 395.5577 324 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 395.5577 in the house 396.3333 325 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 396.3333 (pause 0.22) 396.5484 326 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 396.5484 for most of my growing up years. 399.2826 327 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 399.2826 (pause 1.31) 400.5897 328 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 400.5897 And my older brother- I think I remember him getting his first job. 404.0428 329 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 404.0428 (pause 2.12) 406.1651 330 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 406.1651 He was around- 406.8841 331 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 406.8841 (pause 0.53) 407.4105 332 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 407.4105 I know he was in high school, 408.6616 333 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 408.6616 (pause 0.94) 409.6013 334 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 409.6013 when he got his first job. So I wanna say 412.2387 335 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 412.2387 (pause 0.52) 412.7539 336 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 412.7539 maybe fourteen, or fifteen, 414.2087 337 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 414.2087 (pause 0.58) 414.7918 338 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 414.7918 when he got his first job. And he's had a job ever since. 416.9033 339 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 416.9033 (pause 0.60) 417.5028 340 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 417.5028 And would help out 418.2048 341 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 418.2048 (pause 0.63) 418.8331 342 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 418.8331 in the house, 419.6370 343 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 419.6370 (pause 0.22) 419.8600 344 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 419.8600 help with the bills. 420.8880 345 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 420.8880 (pause 0.69) 421.5786 346 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 421.5786 And just 422.1674 347 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 422.1674 (pause 0.49) 422.6537 348 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 422.6537 remember him growing up 423.9953 349 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 423.9953 (pause 1.74) 425.7332 350 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 425.7332 and being 426.7012 351 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 426.7012 (pause 1.36) 428.0655 352 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 428.0655 a pseudo 428.9939 353 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 428.9939 (pause 0.29) 429.2821 354 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 429.2821 man of the house 430.3293 355 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 430.3293 (pause 0.89) 431.2237 356 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 431.2237 early. 431.6936 357 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 431.6936 (pause 1.18) 432.8710 358 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 432.8710 And I appreciate that a lot 434.2806 359 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 434.2806 (pause 0.25) 434.5297 360 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 434.5297 about him. He was very supportive, very 436.9463 361 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 436.9463 (pause 0.65) 437.5973 362 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 437.5973 protective. 438.5654 363 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 438.5654 (pause 0.70) 439.2616 364 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 439.2616 Still had fun, 440.2523 365 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 440.2523 (pause 0.59) 440.8410 366 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 440.8410 but 441.1694 367 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 441.1694 (pause 0.23) 441.3953 368 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 441.3953 could 441.7745 369 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 441.7745 (pause 0.34) 442.1142 370 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 442.1142 be very responsible 443.2911 371 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 443.2911 (pause 0.24) 443.5294 372 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 443.5294 in that way. 444.1634 373 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 444.1634 (pause 0.87) 445.0352 374 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 445.0352 And he was at home a lot longer than my sister. 448.6067 375 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 448.6067 (pause 0.50) 449.1049 376 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 449.1049 My sister 449.9823 377 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 449.9823 (pause 0.62) 450.6050 378 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 450.6050 went to college 451.5164 379 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 451.5164 (pause 0.47) 451.9862 380 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 451.9862 and then left 452.8354 381 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 452.8354 (pause 0.28) 453.1127 382 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 453.1127 to go to college, 454.0406 383 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 454.0406 (pause 0.44) 454.4765 384 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 454.4765 but my brother stayed 455.7842 385 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 455.7842 (pause 0.59) 456.3729 386 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 456.3729 and he was there 457.4937 387 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 457.4937 (pause 0.73) 458.2240 388 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 458.2240 til I left for college. 459.6732 389 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 459.6732 (pause 0.15) 459.8255 390 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 459.8255 So really became- 460.7482 391 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 460.7482 (pause 1.33) 462.0785 392 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 462.0785 I don't wanna say a father figure, but just a very strong male presence 465.6505 393 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 465.6505 (pause 1.57) 467.2181 394 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 467.2181 for me. 467.8691 395 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 467.8691 (pause 1.06) 468.9333 396 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 468.9333 And my younger brothers, we just played. We- (laughing) 472.1595 397 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 472.1595 (pause 0.36) 472.5218 398 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 472.5218 we just played and we had a good time. 474.2314 399 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 474.2314 (pause 0.45) 474.6842 400 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 474.6842 unts- and I don't wanna say until /RD-NAME-2/ 476.4887 401 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 476.4887 (pause 0.27) 476.7561 402 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 476.7561 the youngest came along. But 478.0633 403 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 478.0633 (pause 0.17) 478.2331 404 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 478.2331 he- 478.7652 405 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 478.7652 (pause 0.25) 479.0143 406 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 479.0143 I- 479.2351 407 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 479.2351 (pause 0.14) 479.3709 408 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 479.3709 he had 480.0049 409 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 480.0049 (pause 1.65) 481.6579 410 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 481.6579 medical issues. And 483.2769 411 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 483.2769 (pause 0.27) 483.5481 412 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 483.5481 required a lot of medical attention. So that changed the dynamic a lot. 486.8767 413 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 486.8767 (pause 0.98) 487.8617 414 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 487.8617 Cause we were very concerned about him and his health. And 490.4878 415 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 490.4878 (pause 0.50) 490.9860 416 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 490.9860 the amount of time he had to spend in the hospital. And 493.0975 417 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 493.0975 (pause 0.56) 493.6579 418 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 493.6579 stuff like that. So I- it- I always say he came along a little bit too late. He came along after 498.3559 419 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 498.3559 (pause 0.52) 498.8710 420 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 498.8710 you know, the- the /RD-ADDRESS-2/ experience 501.4920 421 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 501.4920 (pause 0.38) 501.8708 422 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 501.8708 of being able to go outside and play big wheels. 504.7925 423 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 504.7925 (pause 0.61) 505.4032 424 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 505.4032 But he also just had a very different experience all together. Cause 508.8841 425 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 508.8841 (pause 0.31) 509.1954 426 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 509.1954 he was born with a heart defect. And 511.1371 427 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 511.1371 (pause 0.80) 511.9409 428 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 511.9409 had his first surgery at two. And 513.7354 429 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 513.7354 (pause 0.57) 514.3072 430 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 514.3072 subsequent surgeries there after, it was 516.8880 431 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 516.8880 (pause 0.85) 517.7428 432 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 517.7428 different for him growing up trying to manage being 520.6633 433 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 520.6633 (pause 0.55) 521.2181 434 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 521.2181 the youngest, 522.0672 435 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 522.0672 (pause 0.82) 522.8880 436 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 522.8880 but being the youngest with medical problems and trying to 525.9444 437 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 525.9444 (pause 2.51) 528.4578 438 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 528.4578 manage 529.3836 439 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 529.3836 (pause 0.26) 529.6400 440 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 529.6400 being 530.3068 441 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 530.3068 (pause 0.40) 530.7052 442 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 530.7052 a little bit different 531.5826 443 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 531.5826 (pause 0.23) 531.8085 444 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 531.8085 from 532.3180 445 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 532.3180 (pause 0.84) 533.1558 446 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 533.1558 the rest of us. 533.8917 447 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 533.8917 (pause 0.68) 534.5710 448 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 534.5710 So, 535.0805 449 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 535.0805 (pause 0.50) 535.5786 450 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 535.5786 he- he had it a little bit different. And 537.8597 451 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 537.8597 (pause 0.81) 538.6746 452 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 538.6746 we sometimes 539.7842 453 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 539.7842 (pause 0.86) 540.6446 454 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 540.6446 not pick on him, but just say, you- you missed out on the good time when 543.8597 455 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 543.8597 (pause 0.72) 544.5784 456 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 544.5784 we (laughing) were 545.2181 457 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 545.2181 (pause 0.70) 545.9144 458 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 545.9144 just kicking it, having a good time before 548.2919 459 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 548.2919 (pause 1.11) 549.4066 460 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 549.4066 cell phones and smartphones and 551.6879 461 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 551.6879 (pause 1.85) 553.5334 462 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 553.5334 Xbox Ones took over the world. We just were kids and he kind of 557.4615 463 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 557.4615 (pause 0.37) 557.8294 464 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 557.8294 missed out on that period. So we were close, 560.4900 465 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 560.4900 (pause 0.75) 561.2368 466 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 561.2368 we are, 561.9614 467 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 561.9614 (pause 1.28) 563.2407 468 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 563.2407 we have a good time together, 564.7125 469 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 564.7125 (pause 0.88) 565.5956 470 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 565.5956 we're all in very different stages of life now, but 568.0859 471 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 568.0859 (pause 0.48) 568.5614 472 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 568.5614 still respect each other. Really appreciate 570.6559 473 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 570.6559 (pause 0.30) 570.9560 474 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 570.9560 each other, 571.5730 475 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 571.5730 (pause 0.86) 572.4334 476 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 572.4334 um, 572.8637 477 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 572.8637 (pause 1.19) 574.0576 478 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 574.0576 but I think the best part 575.2294 479 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 575.2294 (pause 0.48) 575.7049 480 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 575.7049 about having a big family, 577.0975 481 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 577.0975 (pause 0.79) 577.8900 482 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 577.8900 is- 578.5297 483 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 578.5297 (pause 2.22) 580.7539 484 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 580.7539 I mean we never 581.6879 485 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 581.6879 (pause 1.78) 583.4654 486 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 583.4654 feel al- not- not alone. It's- it's that feeling that there's always somebody 587.3483 487 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 587.3483 (pause 0.54) 587.8917 488 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 587.8917 in your corner. 588.7918 489 VLD_int_01 588.9359 Mm. 589.1364 490 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 589.1644 Kind of thing. They're- 589.9409 491 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 589.9409 (pause 1.01) 590.9537 492 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 590.9537 We might not talk every single day. And we might not always- 594.2087 493 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 594.2087 (pause 0.29) 594.4974 494 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 594.4974 everybody get together for Christmas, or Thanksgiving, or 597.0165 495 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 597.0165 (pause 0.14) 597.1519 496 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 597.1519 whatever the holiday is. 597.9444 497 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 597.9444 (pause 1.08) 599.0256 498 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 599.0256 But they are 599.6936 499 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 599.6936 (pause 1.18) 600.8710 500 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 600.8710 that 601.5730 501 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 601.5730 (pause 1.57) 603.1405 502 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 603.1405 constant. I- I don't worry 605.1932 503 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 605.1932 (pause 0.92) 606.1181 504 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 606.1181 will I be able to pick up the phone 607.7485 505 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 607.7485 (pause 0.48) 608.2240 506 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 608.2240 and call 608.8127 507 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 608.8127 (pause 0.42) 609.2368 508 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 609.2368 my sister or my brothers. Or 610.9180 509 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 610.9180 (pause 0.62) 611.5351 510 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 611.5351 even cousins if I needed to. Mom, Dad, whatever. 614.1063 511 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 614.1063 (pause 0.68) 614.7901 512 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 614.7901 It's 615.3109 513 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 615.3109 (pause 0.44) 615.7462 514 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 615.7462 knowing that 616.5357 515 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 616.5357 (pause 0.59) 617.1218 516 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 617.1218 I'm connected 618.0276 517 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 618.0276 (pause 0.33) 618.3616 518 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 618.3616 to 618.7408 519 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 618.7408 (pause 1.51) 620.2466 520 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 620.2466 a group of people that 621.3513 521 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 621.3513 (pause 0.49) 621.8368 522 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 621.8368 don't get to choose not to be connected to me. 624.0605 523 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 624.0605 (pause 1.36) 625.4224 524 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 625.4224 625.7721 525 VLD_int_01 625.8787 Um, 626.2555 526 VLD_int_01 626.2555 (pause 0.23) 626.4844 527 VLD_int_01 626.4844 I- I elect to disconnect 628.5331 528 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 628.7750 [No.] 629.3766 529 VLD_int_01 628.8822 [/from you./] 629.3539 530 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 629.9313 Um, 630.2880 531 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 630.2880 (pause 0.49) 630.7748 532 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 630.7748 friends can do that. 631.7032 533 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 631.7032 (pause 0.69) 632.3938 534 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 632.3938 You know. 632.7221 535 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 632.7221 (pause 0.71) 633.4349 536 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 633.4349 Even in relationships that could happen. 635.1388 537 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 635.1388 (pause 0.95) 636.0898 538 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 636.0898 But family is- 637.1656 539 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 637.1656 (pause 1.73) 638.8971 540 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 638.8971 you- you're not family- uh- y- 640.1312 541 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 640.1312 (pause 0.31) 640.4424 542 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 640.4424 you build the love and- and the relationships by choice, but 643.7202 543 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 643.7202 (pause 0.36) 644.0830 544 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 644.0830 by 644.4900 545 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 644.4900 (pause 0.83) 645.3217 546 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 645.3217 genetics we're family. And 646.9067 547 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 646.9067 (pause 0.65) 647.5521 548 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 647.5521 that does mean something to us. So we- 649.4994 549 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 649.4994 (pause 1.54) 651.0386 550 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 651.0386 we're there for each other. 652.0406 551 VLD_int_01 654.9560 So do you have- Okay, so let's talk about family a little bit, Then we're gonna 658.0349 552 VLD_int_01 658.0349 (pause 0.27) 658.3010 553 VLD_int_01 658.3010 kind of, transition to [something] else you just said. 660.8201 554 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 659.7049 [Mm.] 659.9993 555 VLD_int_01 662.1617 Do you have family traditions? Like ones that you still do n- that you still hold now? 666.9546 556 VLD_int_01 666.9546 (pause 0.27) 667.2277 557 VLD_int_01 667.2277 And ones that you had in the past that maybe you don't 668.7901 558 VLD_int_01 668.7901 (pause 1.37) 670.1595 559 VLD_int_01 670.1595 do anymore? 670.7765 560 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 674.2636 We don't- we do have family tr- 675.8597 561 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 675.8597 (pause 0.31) 676.1651 562 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 676.1651 we did 676.7765 563 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 676.7765 (pause 1.06) 677.8413 564 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 677.8413 have family traditions. 679.0303 565 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 679.0303 (pause 0.62) 679.6466 566 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 679.6466 A lot changed when 681.0052 567 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 681.0052 (pause 1.51) 682.5105 568 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 682.5105 my 683.4219 569 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 683.4219 (pause 0.20) 683.6268 570 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 683.6268 g- 683.7480 571 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 683.7480 (pause 0.35) 684.0955 572 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 684.0955 mom's mother 685.5673 573 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 685.5673 (pause 0.61) 686.1787 574 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 686.1787 passed away. 686.8410 575 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 686.8410 (pause 2.31) 689.1558 576 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 689.1558 And not that 690.0931 577 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 690.0931 (pause 1.24) 691.3296 578 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 691.3296 those traditions were 693.0392 579 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 693.0392 (pause 2.91) 695.9540 580 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 695.9540 necessarily 697.0522 581 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 697.0522 (pause 0.44) 697.4937 582 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 697.4937 made by her, 698.7221 583 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 698.7221 (pause 1.27) 699.9897 584 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 699.9897 but the loss of her, 701.6653 585 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 701.6653 (pause 1.25) 702.9107 586 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 702.9107 was really difficult. 704.6429 587 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 704.6429 (pause 0.87) 705.5141 588 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 705.5141 on the family, on- 706.4878 589 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 706.4878 (pause 0.41) 706.8954 590 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 706.8954 I can say for sure on me 707.9823 591 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 707.9823 (pause 0.50) 708.4804 592 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 708.4804 personally. 708.8880 593 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 708.8880 (pause 0.89) 709.7824 594 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 709.7824 I remember 710.6089 595 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 710.6089 (pause 1.79) 712.3972 596 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 712.3972 the day 713.2917 597 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 713.2917 (pause 0.52) 713.8125 598 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 713.8125 the moment, the time I found out that she had passed away. 716.4391 599 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 716.4391 (pause 0.49) 716.9311 600 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 716.9311 I remember exactly where I was, what I was doing. 718.4539 601 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 718.4539 (pause 2.14) 720.5937 602 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 720.5937 Was at 721.0945 603 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 721.0945 (pause 1.80) 722.8915 604 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 722.8915 the /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 724.1312 605 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 724.1312 (pause 0.62) 724.7482 606 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 724.7482 for 725.2747 607 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 725.2747 (pause 0.51) 725.7842 608 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 725.7842 summer internship thing. 727.5051 609 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 727.5051 (pause 1.07) 728.5744 610 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 728.5744 Walking back from the library where I had been doing research. 732.2087 611 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 732.2087 (pause 0.65) 732.8597 612 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 732.8597 One of my brothers called me. 734.0089 613 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 734.0089 (pause 1.21) 735.2198 614 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 735.2198 And 735.6670 615 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 735.6670 (pause 0.76) 736.4312 616 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 736.4312 just told me 737.2803 617 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 737.2803 (pause 0.74) 738.0219 618 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 738.0219 that granny had passed away and 739.7598 619 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 739.7598 (pause 0.50) 740.2602 620 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 740.2602 it was unexpected. 741.2712 621 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 741.2712 (pause 1.33) 742.6010 622 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 742.6010 And, a 742.8048 623 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 742.8048 (pause 0.68) 743.4841 624 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 743.4841 crowd of people is around me, cause I don't remember, if I was screaming- I don't remember what I was doing at that moment. But it was very clear that I was in distress. And 750.5484 625 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 750.5484 (pause 1.46) 752.0089 626 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 752.0089 one of those moments you never forget because 754.2840 627 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 754.2840 (pause 1.41) 755.6936 628 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 755.6936 granny was such, um, 757.1541 629 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 757.1541 (pause 0.27) 757.4201 630 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 757.4201 important part 758.3712 631 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 758.3712 (pause 1.05) 759.4236 632 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 759.4236 of 760.0349 633 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 760.0349 (pause 1.02) 761.0596 634 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 761.0596 not just my life, but all of our lives. And like I said, I've never lived 764.6311 635 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 764.6311 (pause 0.23) 764.8632 636 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 764.8632 further than walking distance from 766.4482 637 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 766.4482 (pause 0.88) 767.3256 638 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 767.3256 granny's house. 768.1181 639 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 768.1181 (pause 0.28) 768.4012 640 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 768.4012 Spent a lot of time over there. Spent my summers there. 770.6089 641 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 770.6089 (pause 0.76) 771.3726 642 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 771.3726 After school, 772.1595 643 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 772.1595 (pause 0.24) 772.3972 644 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 772.3972 we'd be there. 773.2690 645 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 773.2690 (pause 0.60) 773.8691 646 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 773.8691 Mad at my mama, so I'll go there. Didn't matter it's- 776.5184 647 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 776.5184 (pause 0.27) 776.7844 648 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 776.7844 that was where I went. 777.5543 649 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 777.5543 (pause 1.64) 779.1954 650 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 779.1954 So when she passed away, some of our family traditions 782.5698 651 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 782.5698 (pause 0.22) 782.7936 652 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 782.7936 went with her. 784.1720 653 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 784.1720 (pause 1.42) 785.5917 654 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 785.5917 Not because she wasn't there to keep them going, but because it was almost too painful to keep them going without her there. 790.9407 655 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 790.9407 (pause 1.19) 792.1351 656 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 792.1351 Like, Christmas day going over to granny's house, 794.4064 657 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 794.4064 (pause 0.14) 794.5445 658 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 794.5445 having 795.2826 659 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 795.2826 (pause 0.66) 795.9444 660 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 795.9444 Christmas dinner there was a big deal. And every year, 798.8088 661 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 798.8088 (pause 0.29) 799.0991 662 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 799.0991 799.6167 663 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 799.6167 (pause 0.34) 799.9579 664 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 799.9579 every year, 800.5467 665 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 800.5467 (pause 1.13) 801.6783 666 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 801.6783 every other time we have family dinners, 803.8634 667 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 803.8634 (pause 0.26) 804.1238 668 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 804.1238 paper plates, 805.4127 669 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 805.4127 (pause 0.85) 806.2636 670 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 806.2636 napkins, (laughing) 807.3233 671 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 807.3233 (pause 1.24) 808.5614 672 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 808.5614 plastic forks and spoons, all that. But not on Christmas day. 811.7006 673 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 811.7006 (pause 0.30) 811.9976 674 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 811.9976 She had to pull out the white table cloth 814.3746 675 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 814.3746 (pause 0.58) 814.9577 676 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 814.9577 with 815.6221 677 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 815.6221 (pause 0.52) 816.1465 678 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 816.1465 the special dishes. 817.7372 679 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 817.7372 (pause 0.55) 818.2919 680 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 818.2919 And the special silverware 820.1085 681 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 820.1085 (pause 0.81) 820.9180 682 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 820.9180 that of course the grandkids had to clean up after. 823.1314 683 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 823.1314 (pause 0.16) 823.2956 684 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 823.2956 And wash. So we didn't wanna do it, but it was so important to her. I mean she would iron the tablecloth 828.3050 685 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 828.3050 (pause 0.74) 829.0412 686 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 829.0412 on Christmas day. 829.6979 687 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 829.6979 (pause 0.43) 830.1281 688 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 830.1281 Cause the tablecloth had to be on the table. 831.7754 689 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 831.7754 (pause 0.87) 832.6467 690 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 832.6467 I mean those are the things that 833.7676 691 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 833.7676 (pause 1.06) 834.8261 692 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 834.8261 as annoying and irritating as they seemed at the time, I'd give anything to do it again now. 839.0999 693 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 839.0999 (pause 0.97) 840.0732 694 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 840.0732 Cause we don't do that anymore. 841.2564 695 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 841.2564 (pause 0.27) 841.5281 696 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 841.5281 We don't- 841.9696 697 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 841.9696 (pause 0.41) 842.3772 698 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 842.3772 we don't even have Christmas dinner 843.6396 699 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 843.6396 (pause 0.75) 844.3920 700 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 844.3920 over at 845.2298 701 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 845.2298 (pause 0.63) 845.8638 702 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 845.8638 you know, her house anymore. 846.8714 703 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 846.8714 (pause 0.68) 847.5507 704 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 847.5507 A lot of the- 848.3602 705 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 848.3602 (pause 0.58) 848.9433 706 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 848.9433 those kinds of things that we used to do. 850.6863 707 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 850.6863 (pause 0.90) 851.5864 708 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 851.5864 We- we don't do anymore, cause 853.3696 709 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 853.3696 (pause 0.58) 853.9470 710 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 853.9470 doesn't feel the same. 854.8357 711 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 854.8357 (pause 0.40) 855.2377 712 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 855.2377 But I miss them. 855.9056 713 VLD_int_01 860.7678 So you moved away from Valdosta, 862.5110 714 VLD_int_01 862.5110 (pause 2.21) 864.7242 715 VLD_int_01 864.7242 but before- let's go back- let's go- cause I don't wanna- I don't wanna talk about moving away first. 868.6014 716 VLD_int_01 868.6014 (pause 0.36) 868.9637 717 VLD_int_01 868.9637 So let's talk about 870.0902 718 VLD_int_01 870.0902 (pause 0.23) 870.3223 719 VLD_int_01 870.3223 school. 870.9507 720 VLD_int_01 870.9507 (pause 1.94) 872.8867 721 VLD_int_01 872.8867 Um, so 874.5110 722 VLD_int_01 874.5110 (pause 0.31) 874.8222 723 VLD_int_01 874.8222 we're gonna talk about middle school, cause I think that's important. 877.0016 724 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 877.2064 [Let's] 878.5213 725 VLD_int_01 877.9163 [Selfishly] 878.7678 726 VLD_int_01 879.0482 but let's talk about elementary school first. 880.6989 727 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 881.8921 Elementary school- (whispered) 882.7865 728 VLD_int_01 882.8601 Do you remember elementary school? 884.0659 729 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 884.4621 Yes. 885.0226 730 VLD_int_01 885.7976 [Um.] 886.5391 731 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 885.8032 [Mostly.] 886.5278 732 VLD_int_01 886.9014 Mostly? Okay. 887.9091 733 VLD_int_01 887.9091 (pause 0.66) 888.5657 734 VLD_int_01 888.5657 Did you- Which elementary school did you go to? 890.0715 735 VLD_int_01 890.0715 (pause 0.19) 890.2640 736 VLD_int_01 890.2640 [/RD-SCHOOL-3/.] 890.8414 737 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 890.7905 [/RD-SCHOOL-3/] days that's what we talking about? 892.2566 738 VLD_int_01 892.4203 Mm-hm. 892.7316 739 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 892.8562 Yeah. Or- 893.4392 740 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 893.4392 (pause 0.27) 893.7053 741 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 893.7053 Vaguely yes. 894.7356 742 VLD_int_01 895.5620 Did you have a favorite teacher, or a favorite subject? 897.5547 743 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 898.7316 Mm, no. 899.2920 744 VLD_int_01 900.1978 Did you like elementary school? 901.8791 745 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 904.7769 No. 905.2524 746 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 905.2524 (pause 0.97) 906.2261 747 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 906.2261 Not really. 907.5960 748 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 907.5960 (pause 1.19) 908.7848 749 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 908.7848 I- I didn't not like it, but I didn't like it. I remember, 911.8694 750 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 911.8694 (pause 2.47) 914.3376 751 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 914.3376 mm, just kind of remember existing through elementary school. 917.0486 752 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 917.0486 (pause 0.72) 917.7676 753 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 917.7676 I didn't feel 918.7308 754 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 918.7308 (pause 2.21) 920.9433 755 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 920.9433 like- I was definitely not a popular kid, but I wasn't a not popular kid. I just kind of existed through middle school. 926.5414 756 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 926.5414 (pause 1.10) 927.6447 757 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 927.6447 Just trying to figure out where you belong, what you wanna do. 930.5261 758 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 930.5261 (pause 0.58) 931.1092 759 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 931.1092 In middle school I didn't have band. I didn't have- 933.6283 760 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 933.6283 (pause 1.22) 934.8505 761 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 934.8505 Oh- I don't remember really doing any extracurricular activities. 938.0690 762 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 938.0690 (pause 0.74) 938.8074 763 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 938.8074 I guess the only class I kind of sort of remember is Mr. Smith's class, his music class. 943.2337 764 VLD_int_01 944.1281 Mm. 944.4225 765 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 944.4451 And I would say that was probably the start of getting into band. 947.5241 766 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 947.5241 (pause 0.81) 948.3336 767 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 948.3336 Cause we had that 948.9960 768 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 948.9960 (pause 0.72) 949.7149 769 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 949.7149 day where 950.5357 770 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 950.5357 (pause 1.18) 951.7183 771 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 951.7183 I think that was- Yeah, the first time that 953.8411 772 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 953.8411 (pause 0.55) 954.3902 773 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 954.3902 they started bringing instruments in and 956.1734 774 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 956.1734 (pause 0.66) 956.8301 775 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 956.8301 getting to 957.3905 776 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 957.3905 (pause 0.15) 957.5372 777 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 957.5372 blow on a mouthpiece and stuff like that 959.4562 778 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 959.4562 (pause 0.20) 959.6600 779 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 959.6600 started in elementary school. 961.2564 780 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 961.2564 (pause 0.98) 962.2357 781 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 962.2357 Yeah. 962.7225 782 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 962.7225 (pause 0.54) 963.2603 783 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 963.2603 Yep. 963.6056 784 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 963.6056 (pause 0.38) 963.9900 785 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 963.9900 Definitely woulda started in- in 965.2298 786 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 965.2298 (pause 0.37) 965.6034 787 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 965.6034 elementary school, so 966.6563 788 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 966.6563 (pause 0.34) 966.9960 789 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 966.9960 Mr. Smith's class was probably 968.6942 790 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 968.6942 (pause 1.17) 969.8655 791 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 969.8655 my favorite. I remember 971.5581 792 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 971.5581 (pause 1.00) 972.5544 793 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 972.5544 enjoying music class when we brought out the xylophones, 974.9773 794 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 974.9773 (pause 0.68) 975.6617 795 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 975.6617 really liked the xylophones. (laughing) 977.0020 796 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 977.0020 (pause 0.99) 977.9940 797 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 977.9940 and the tinikling. 979.9923 798 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 979.9923 (pause 0.93) 980.9263 799 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 980.9263 That random thing that we used to do. 983.5807 800 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 983.5807 (pause 0.73) 984.3110 801 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 984.3110 Have no idea where it comes (laughing) from, but I really enjoyed that. 986.7848 802 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 986.7848 (pause 0.58) 987.3679 803 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 987.3679 Other than that, no. 988.5901 804 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 988.5901 (pause 1.72) 990.3111 805 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 990.3111 I have some other just random memories though. 992.2866 806 VLD_int_01 993.1301 Like what? 993.5830 807 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 995.9770 I have a random memory of Raymond. 997.8960 808 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 997.8960 (pause 2.50) 1000.3920 809 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1000.3920 In middle school, 1001.2524 810 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1001.2524 (pause 1.26) 1002.5091 811 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1002.5091 cause we used to wait for 1003.8168 812 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1003.8168 (pause 0.62) 1004.4338 813 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1004.4338 the bus together. 1005.4867 814 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1005.4867 (pause 0.95) 1006.4373 815 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1006.4373 Under the awning where the little, um, 1008.8375 816 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1008.8375 (pause 0.29) 1009.1262 817 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1009.1262 hopscotch grid was. 1010.8074 818 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1010.8074 (pause 1.04) 1011.8434 819 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1011.8434 And we would play hopscotch together 1013.7902 820 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1013.7902 (pause 1.36) 1015.1488 821 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1015.1488 until it was time to go. 1016.5584 822 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1016.5584 (pause 0.88) 1017.4415 823 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1017.4415 And one day I don't remember why, but he and I got into an argument. 1020.5431 824 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1020.5431 (pause 0.92) 1021.4658 825 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1021.4658 I don't know about (laughing) what. (whispered) 1023.2830 826 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1023.2830 (pause 0.63) 1023.9108 827 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1023.9108 And he hit me. 1024.9864 828 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1024.9864 (pause 0.38) 1025.3656 829 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1025.3656 And we ended up in the principal's office. (laughing) 1027.7612 830 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1027.7612 (pause 1.99) 1029.7471 831 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1029.7471 But like I said, random memory, 1031.0906 832 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1031.0906 (pause 0.42) 1031.5137 833 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1031.5137 I don't remember what happened after that, 1032.9779 834 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1032.9779 (pause 0.65) 1033.6307 835 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1033.6307 but, um, 1034.2135 836 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1034.2135 (pause 1.10) 1035.3093 837 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1035.3093 yeah. 1035.6917 838 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1035.6917 (pause 1.04) 1036.7350 839 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1036.7350 Very random memory of him. 1038.1479 840 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1038.1479 (pause 1.42) 1039.5701 841 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1039.5701 And 1040.5353 842 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1040.5353 (pause 2.05) 1042.5811 843 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1042.5811 playing with shaving cream on our desks. 1044.9126 844 VLD_int_01 1045.1038 1046.6099 845 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1046.6845 Where we would write out, 1047.6777 846 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1047.6777 (pause 0.21) 1047.8875 847 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1047.8875 like our 1048.3025 848 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1048.3025 (pause 0.19) 1048.4937 849 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1048.4937 spelling words, or 1049.6489 850 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1049.6489 (pause 0.41) 1050.0639 851 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1050.0639 whatever, but we would use 1051.2763 852 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1051.2763 (pause 0.80) 1052.0737 853 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1052.0737 shaving cream. And I remember thinking that that was 1054.5916 854 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1054.5916 (pause 1.02) 1055.6116 855 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1055.6116 the best day ever, cause we're playing with shaving cream on the desks. 1058.3488 856 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1058.3488 (pause 1.84) 1060.1848 857 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1060.1848 Why we did that, I have no idea. (laughing) 1062.7354 858 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1062.7354 (pause 0.65) 1063.3882 859 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1063.3882 Uh, maybe it helped you remember your words better. 1065.2394 860 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1065.2394 (pause 0.14) 1065.3746 861 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1065.3746 I- 1065.5751 862 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1065.5751 (pause 0.19) 1065.7616 863 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1065.7616 I don't know, but I have a random memory of enjoying the day when I came in and saw 1069.7659 864 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1069.7659 (pause 1.26) 1071.0249 865 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1071.0249 the shaving cream bottles. 1072.2559 866 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1072.2559 (pause 0.45) 1072.7024 867 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1072.7024 Where we got to play with shaving cream 1074.2598 868 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1074.2598 (pause 1.13) 1075.3882 869 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1075.3882 on the desk. 1076.0830 870 VLD_int_01 1076.9736 So, you were still the /RD-SCHOOL-3/ days. 1080.1898 871 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1080.7074 [Yes.] 1081.7333 872 VLD_int_01 1080.7074 [When we transitioned- before] we transitioned there was no- before /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 1083.9435 873 VLD_int_01 1084.2699 [did the change thing.] 1085.1372 874 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1084.4051 [Yes.] 1085.1139 875 VLD_int_01 1085.7002 Alright. [So did you like /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 1087.7006 876 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1086.3950 [W- did fifth and sixth.] 1088.0224 877 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1089.5518 Right- or- f- 1090.2279 878 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1090.2279 (pause 0.51) 1090.7362 879 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1090.7362 Was it [fifth?] 1091.4996 880 VLD_int_01 1091.1780 [Fifth.] Cause then we got to go [to] 1093.2203 881 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1092.8753 [And then we] went to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ [middle school]. 1094.4467 882 VLD_int_01 1093.9278 [Yes. We were] the last group to do the fifth grade, si- 1096.3958 883 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1096.4098 At- 1096.9740 884 VLD_int_01 1096.9775 Mm, [yeah.] 1097.5697 885 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1097.3319 [Okay.] 1097.8588 886 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1099.1411 /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1099.9851 887 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1099.9851 (pause 3.85) 1103.8308 888 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1103.8308 Now /RD-SCHOOL-3/ I think is, 1105.4861 889 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1105.4861 (pause 1.89) 1107.3746 890 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1107.3746 when I started to 1109.0533 891 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1109.0533 (pause 2.47) 1111.5188 892 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1111.5188 really wanna make friends 1113.3187 893 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1113.3187 (pause 1.62) 1114.9355 894 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1114.9355 of my own. 1115.6956 895 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1115.6956 (pause 0.32) 1116.0127 896 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1116.0127 Cause like I said before that, my f- my siblings were 1119.1788 897 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1119.1788 (pause 1.31) 1120.4844 898 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1120.4844 a really big part of 1121.6070 899 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1121.6070 (pause 1.45) 1123.0618 900 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1123.0618 what I enjoyed. 1123.8778 901 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1123.8778 (pause 0.36) 1124.2415 902 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1124.2415 And 1124.6798 903 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1124.6798 (pause 0.57) 1125.2534 904 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1125.2534 they were my clan, they were my group. 1126.6418 905 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1126.6418 (pause 1.09) 1127.7282 906 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1127.7282 Then I wanted my own friends. I- ha- (laughing) I remember- 1130.7731 907 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1130.7731 (pause 0.48) 1131.2487 908 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1131.2487 And it was- I di- it was definitely in middle school. 1132.8714 909 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1132.8714 (pause 1.08) 1133.9474 910 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1133.9474 First day of school teacher calls your name, 1135.5514 911 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1135.5514 (pause 1.45) 1137.0016 912 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1137.0016 and it's usually whatever your first name is, /RD-NAME-3/ 1138.9320 913 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1138.9320 (pause 0.51) 1139.4391 914 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1139.4391 /RD-NAME-2/ whatever. 1140.4976 915 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1140.4976 (pause 0.56) 1141.0571 916 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1141.0571 Here. 1141.5467 917 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1141.5467 (pause 0.92) 1142.4653 918 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1142.4653 And 1143.0808 919 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1143.0808 (pause 0.76) 1143.8409 920 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1143.8409 I remember going home, 1145.0766 921 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1145.0766 (pause 0.12) 1145.2013 922 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1145.2013 it was at some point in middle school, and all my family calls me /RD-NAME-2/. 1148.6519 923 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1148.6519 (pause 1.05) 1149.7010 924 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1149.7010 And- and I just 1150.6103 925 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1150.6103 (pause 0.49) 1151.1034 926 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1151.1034 my name's not /RD-NAME-2/, I'm /RD-NAME-3/. 1152.9499 927 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1152.9499 (pause 0.95) 1153.8965 928 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1153.8965 And going through this, 1154.9223 929 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1154.9223 (pause 0.51) 1155.4306 930 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1155.4306 I guess semi-identity crisis. I don't know. 1157.7900 931 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1157.7900 (pause 0.58) 1158.3717 932 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1158.3717 But I didn't wanna be /RD-NAME-2/ anymore. 1159.6027 933 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1159.6027 (pause 0.19) 1159.7939 934 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1159.7939 I wanted to be /RD-NAME-3/, that's who I am. 1161.1461 935 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1161.1461 (pause 0.52) 1161.6637 936 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1161.6637 And I'm /RD-NAME-3/. 1162.6758 937 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1162.6758 (pause 0.11) 1162.7853 938 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1162.7853 And 1163.3039 939 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1163.3039 (pause 0.15) 1163.4578 940 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1163.4578 that's who I need to be. 1164.1665 941 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1164.1665 (pause 1.82) 1165.9897 942 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1165.9897 It lasted for 1166.8384 943 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1166.8384 (pause 0.65) 1167.4865 944 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1167.4865 probably twenty-four hours I think- I don't- I don't think it lasted much longer than that. 1170.4836 945 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1170.4836 (pause 0.41) 1170.8939 946 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1170.8939 Stop calling me /RD-NAME-2/, I'm- I'm 1172.5073 947 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1172.5073 (pause 0.60) 1173.1088 948 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1173.1088 /RD-NAME-3/. 1173.5984 949 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1173.5984 (pause 1.85) 1175.4438 950 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1175.4438 Shut up /RD-NAME-2/. 1176.1759 951 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1176.1759 (pause 0.54) 1176.7168 952 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1176.7168 Uh- uh, really? I- 1177.7519 953 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1177.7519 (pause 0.31) 1178.0643 954 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1178.0643 Really? [Okay.] (laughing) 1179.2440 955 VLD_int_01 1179.0202 [Hm.] 1179.2534 956 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1179.5565 Fine. 1179.9108 957 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1179.9108 (pause 0.77) 1180.6791 958 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1180.6791 It lasted for about twenty-four hours and then I'm over it. 1182.6002 959 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1182.6002 (pause 0.44) 1183.0385 960 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1183.0385 Funny thing is now, I- 1183.9571 961 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1183.9571 (pause 0.50) 1184.4560 962 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1184.4560 I find that to be hilarious cause I 1185.9901 963 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1185.9901 (pause 1.36) 1187.3505 964 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1187.3505 appreciate 1188.2738 965 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1188.2738 (pause 0.72) 1188.9919 966 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1188.9919 that in my professional life, or whatever, I'm /RD-NAME-3/ and 1191.7803 967 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1191.7803 (pause 0.58) 1192.3585 968 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1192.3585 in 1192.7735 969 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1192.7735 (pause 0.77) 1193.5464 970 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1193.5464 my home life and for those who are really close to me, I feel- 1196.3208 971 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1196.3208 (pause 2.48) 1198.7968 972 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1198.7968 I feel good 1199.4205 973 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1199.4205 (pause 0.51) 1199.9287 974 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1199.9287 that 1200.2271 975 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1200.2271 (pause 0.15) 1200.3764 976 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1200.3764 I had that identity as /RD-NAME-2/ in this space, 1203.3326 977 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1203.3326 (pause 0.80) 1204.1347 978 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1204.1347 um, 1204.5030 979 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1204.5030 (pause 0.40) 1204.8982 980 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1204.8982 but I- I remember being really 1206.7994 981 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1206.7994 (pause 0.16) 1206.9566 982 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1206.9566 silly about that then. Going through, I want to be- 1210.7828 983 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1210.7828 (pause 0.92) 1211.7049 984 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1211.7049 had in my mind who /RD-NAME-3/ was, and that's who I needed to be 1214.3208 985 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1214.3208 (pause 0.55) 1214.8757 986 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1214.8757 all the time. So I could make friends, so I could- 1216.7921 987 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1216.7921 (pause 1.60) 1218.3950 988 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1218.3950 Mm, 1218.7960 989 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1218.7960 (pause 0.23) 1219.0292 990 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1219.0292 have my own 1220.1063 991 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1220.1063 (pause 2.15) 1222.2606 992 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1222.2606 identity 1223.1092 993 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1223.1092 (pause 0.46) 1223.5650 994 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1223.5650 outside of 1224.4556 995 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1224.4556 (pause 0.23) 1224.6888 996 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1224.6888 being a part of one of five kids, or one of six kids. 1228.5310 997 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1228.5310 (pause 1.54) 1230.0733 998 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1230.0733 Um, 1230.5675 999 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1230.5675 (pause 0.91) 1231.4768 1000 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1231.4768 so /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was probably the beginning of me trying to figure out 1236.1491 1001 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1236.1491 (pause 0.36) 1236.5116 1002 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1236.5116 who I wanted to be outside of my family. 1239.4399 1003 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1239.4399 (pause 0.79) 1240.2279 1004 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1240.2279 And then 1240.7781 1005 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1240.7781 (pause 1.34) 1242.1199 1006 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1242.1199 the start of band. 1243.2856 1007 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1243.2856 (pause 0.49) 1243.7752 1008 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1243.7752 Which, 1244.3534 1009 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1244.3534 (pause 0.30) 1244.6519 1010 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1244.6519 brought its own 1245.3933 1011 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1245.3933 (pause 1.42) 1246.8096 1012 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1246.8096 set of identity issues. Because my older sister was this rockstar clarinetist and 1252.4844 1013 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1252.4844 (pause 0.16) 1252.6476 1014 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1252.6476 I decided I wanted to play the clarinet too. 1254.9359 1015 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1254.9359 (pause 1.49) 1256.4280 1016 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1256.4280 And so on top of being /RD-NAME-2/ at home and /RD-NAME-3/ at school, 1259.5662 1017 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1259.5662 (pause 1.08) 1260.6421 1018 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1260.6421 to the older kids in band, I was /RD-NAME-2/'s little sister. 1263.8829 1019 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1263.8829 (pause 1.07) 1264.9495 1020 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1264.9495 And once again, I didn't feel like I had my own 1267.1364 1021 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1267.1364 (pause 0.56) 1267.7006 1022 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1267.7006 identity, I didn't have my own- 1269.2254 1023 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1269.2254 (pause 0.34) 1269.5658 1024 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1269.5658 I didn't stand on my own. I was 1271.1045 1025 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1271.1045 (pause 0.24) 1271.3412 1026 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1271.3412 a part of something else. 1273.5374 1027 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1273.5374 (pause 1.11) 1274.6519 1028 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1274.6519 So I went through that- that, little 1275.8222 1029 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1275.8222 (pause 0.50) 1276.3212 1030 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1276.3212 identity crisis for a little while and was frustrated by that, but I- That's why I decided I wanted to do in- 1281.8642 1031 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1281.8642 (pause 1.26) 1283.1220 1032 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1283.1220 When I s- When I was at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ was- I wanted to play clarinet. And 1286.4374 1033 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1286.4374 (pause 0.36) 1286.8011 1034 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1286.8011 I mean I was pretty good at it. 1287.7523 1035 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1287.7523 (pause 1.35) 1289.0987 1036 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1289.0987 But it took me a while to 1290.6981 1037 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1290.6981 (pause 0.79) 1291.4861 1038 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1291.4861 embrace the fact that, yeah I am /RD-NAME-2/'s little sister, but I'm also really good at this. Pay attention to me. 1297.5234 1039 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1297.5234 (pause 0.57) 1298.0970 1040 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1298.0970 I can stand on my own, I can 1300.3165 1041 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1300.3165 (pause 0.44) 1300.7537 1042 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1300.7537 perform. I'm not just 1302.5909 1043 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1302.5909 (pause 1.10) 1303.6867 1044 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1303.6867 her little sister. I am- 1305.4539 1045 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1305.4539 (pause 1.33) 1306.7875 1046 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1306.7875 I'm actually a fairly good instrumentalist myself. 1309.2996 1047 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1309.2996 (pause 1.15) 1310.4513 1048 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1310.4513 Um, 1310.8430 1049 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1310.8430 (pause 0.88) 1311.7197 1050 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1311.7197 but yeah. 1312.2652 1051 VLD_int_01 1313.3505 It's so interesting, as close as we are, 1315.1364 1052 VLD_int_01 1315.1364 (pause 0.66) 1315.7985 1053 VLD_int_01 1315.7985 we never 1316.9829 1054 VLD_int_01 1316.9829 (pause 0.56) 1317.5425 1055 VLD_int_01 1317.5425 used each other's /nicksnames/. Like I've never called you /RD-NAME-2/, 1320.3449 1056 VLD_int_01 1320.3449 (pause 0.29) 1320.6328 1057 VLD_int_01 1320.6328 you never call me /RD-NAME-2/. Like, we never- that's the one thing 1324.0274 1058 VLD_int_01 1324.0274 (pause 0.67) 1324.7024 1059 VLD_int_01 1324.7024 interestingly 1325.7702 1060 VLD_int_01 1325.7702 (pause 0.90) 1326.6748 1061 VLD_int_01 1326.6748 that we never crossed into that space. 1328.8570 1062 VLD_int_01 1328.8570 (pause 0.40) 1329.2534 1063 VLD_int_01 1329.2534 Like Olivia calls you /RD-NAME-2/, 1330.4331 1064 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1330.5170 She does. 1331.1232 1065 VLD_int_01 1331.5977 um, 1332.0919 1066 VLD_int_01 1332.0919 (pause 0.53) 1332.6188 1067 VLD_int_01 1332.6188 but we never- that's- 1333.9990 1068 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1334.4327 I don't know why. 1335.2301 1069 VLD_int_01 1335.7010 That's so interesting to me. 1336.8481 1070 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1338.1246 There's probably nobody closer, (laughing) 1340.2602 1071 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1340.2602 (pause 0.35) 1340.6146 1072 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1340.6146 who should in theory based on how I've- 1343.2445 1073 VLD_int_01 1344.0792 /Right./ 1344.5035 1074 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1345.0198 Almost compartmentalized my life. 1347.2534 1075 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1347.2534 (pause 0.23) 1347.4818 1076 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1347.4818 Cause I don't 1348.4331 1077 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1348.4331 (pause 0.64) 1349.0707 1078 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1349.0707 there's actually no- 1349.9195 1079 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1349.9195 (pause 1.03) 1350.9499 1080 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1350.9499 I- I really don't want 1352.3581 1081 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1352.3581 (pause 0.31) 1352.6659 1082 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1352.6659 people in my professional life 1353.9481 1083 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1353.9481 (pause 0.73) 1354.6744 1084 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1354.6744 crossing over to that /RD-NAME-2/ side, 1356.4104 1085 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1356.4104 (pause 0.27) 1356.6771 1086 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1356.6771 ooh, wait 1357.4535 1087 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1357.4535 (pause 0.30) 1357.7519 1088 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1357.7519 that's- 1358.3907 1089 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1358.3907 (pause 0.91) 1359.3000 1090 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1359.3000 you don't own that. 1360.2279 1091 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1360.2279 (pause 1.01) 1361.2372 1092 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1361.2372 This one time my dad- My dad is the only one that calls me /RD-NAME-2/. 1364.0162 1093 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1364.0162 (pause 1.17) 1365.1820 1094 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1365.1820 There's not another single person in my life who calls me /RD-NAME-2/. 1367.1532 1095 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1367.1532 (pause 0.70) 1367.8573 1096 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1367.8573 And he was introducing me to one of his friends, or something one time, and he said this is my daughter /RD-NAME-2/ and I looked at him. And gave him a look, 1374.2770 1097 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1374.2770 (pause 0.42) 1374.7013 1098 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1374.7013 who- 1375.1116 1099 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1375.1116 (pause 1.10) 1376.2121 1100 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1376.2121 you don't get to give that away. 1378.1285 1101 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1378.1285 (pause 0.92) 1379.0506 1102 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1379.0506 And- and he apologized, say wait I'm sorry. 1381.0464 1103 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1381.0464 (pause 0.97) 1382.0162 1104 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1382.0162 This is Nicki, 1382.6364 1105 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1382.6364 (pause 0.66) 1383.2939 1106 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1383.2939 it's like, it's okay, 1384.3586 1107 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1384.3586 (pause 1.19) 1385.5496 1108 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1385.5496 if you are friend of the family, 1387.1878 1109 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1387.1878 (pause 0.53) 1387.7132 1110 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1387.7132 if- if you're in that realm of my life, it's okay, 1390.9108 1111 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1390.9108 (pause 1.98) 1392.8925 1112 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1392.8925 but he's the only person that calls me /RD-NAME-2/. There's- there's something 1395.8394 1113 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1395.8394 (pause 0.61) 1396.4445 1114 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1396.4445 even though we don't have the best 1397.9133 1115 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1397.9133 (pause 0.65) 1398.5661 1116 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1398.5661 relationship ever, 1399.8251 1117 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1399.8251 (pause 0.74) 1400.5665 1118 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1400.5665 it's 1401.1493 1119 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1401.1493 (pause 0.78) 1401.9315 1120 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1401.9315 still something special 1403.1626 1121 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1403.1626 (pause 1.33) 1404.4961 1122 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1404.4961 between me and him, that I wanna hold onto. 1406.2587 1123 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1406.2587 (pause 1.40) 1407.6576 1124 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1407.6576 And that I don't wanna share. 1408.6823 1125 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1408.6823 (pause 0.86) 1409.5402 1126 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1409.5402 So I don't know why that 1410.8132 1127 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1410.8132 (pause 1.04) 1411.8577 1128 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1411.8577 transition for us never happened, but 1413.7835 1129 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1413.7835 (pause 1.29) 1415.0693 1130 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1415.0693 it doesn't 1415.6848 1131 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1415.6848 (pause 1.37) 1417.0557 1132 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1417.0557 negate 1417.7878 1133 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1417.7878 (pause 1.08) 1418.8684 1134 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1418.8684 the position that you have in my life. 1421.1206 1135 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1421.1206 (pause 1.36) 1422.4775 1136 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1422.4775 But I would never want anybody else to call me /RD-NAME-2/. 1424.6457 1137 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1424.6457 (pause 2.62) 1427.2698 1138 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1427.2698 Weird. 1427.6615 1139 VLD_int_01 1428.8225 Nah, I get it. 1429.4955 1140 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1429.7225 [] 1430.5805 1141 VLD_int_01 1430.0629 [Ta-] 1430.3520 1142 VLD_int_01 1430.6271 totally. 1431.1260 1143 VLD_int_01 1431.1260 (pause 0.27) 1431.3965 1144 VLD_int_01 1431.3965 I 1431.5876 1145 VLD_int_01 1431.5876 (pause 0.28) 1431.8663 1146 VLD_int_01 1431.8663 totally get it. 1432.8128 1147 VLD_int_01 1432.8128 (pause 1.14) 1433.9552 1148 VLD_int_01 1433.9552 Um, so let's talk about middle school, cause I think 1436.8276 1149 VLD_int_01 1436.8276 (pause 1.45) 1438.2813 1150 VLD_int_01 1438.2813 that was a different 1439.3024 1151 VLD_int_01 1439.3024 (pause 1.31) 1440.6174 1152 VLD_int_01 1440.6174 tra- transition right? Because we- 1442.8323 1153 VLD_int_01 1442.8323 (pause 0.46) 1443.2927 1154 VLD_int_01 1443.2927 So the way /RD-SCHOOL-3/'s set up, like, the schools came together, well, we still- 1448.1048 1155 VLD_int_01 1448.1048 (pause 0.53) 1448.6364 1156 VLD_int_01 1448.6364 still kind of separate, so tell- 1450.2811 1157 VLD_int_01 1450.2811 (pause 0.26) 1450.5377 1158 VLD_int_01 1450.5377 instead of me talking about it, you talk [about it.] 1451.8900 1159 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1451.6475 [] 1452.4449 1160 VLD_int_01 1452.4355 [] 1453.4474 1161 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1452.9158 [The transition.] (whispered) 1454.1655 1162 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1455.9595 I think for- for us in particular, that time, it was different. /RD-SCHOOL-6/ was very new. It was- it was a new 1461.4058 1163 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1461.4058 (pause 1.43) 1462.8315 1164 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1462.8315 s- grouping of f- kids. Our first 1465.3961 1165 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1465.3961 (pause 0.82) 1466.2168 1166 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1466.2168 middle school instead of going to- What was it? Junior high before- 1469.1299 1167 VLD_int_01 1469.2698 And then /RD-SCHOOL-4/ also was [new-] 1471.0184 1168 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1470.7759 [And then] /RD-SCHOOL-4/ was new. So we were split- 1473.2488 1169 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1473.6611 we were splitting up 1474.6057 1170 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1474.6057 (pause 0.38) 1474.9807 1171 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1474.9807 physically. We were also being split up differently in terms of age groups. And 1478.8462 1172 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1478.8462 (pause 0.48) 1479.3254 1173 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1479.3254 how we were 1480.4631 1174 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1480.4631 (pause 0.62) 1481.0879 1175 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1481.0879 going through school. 1482.1371 1176 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1482.1371 (pause 1.68) 1483.8157 1177 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1483.8157 Going to middle school was- 1485.0001 1178 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1485.0001 (pause 1.32) 1486.3232 1179 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1486.3232 For me I felt at first, it really felt like a good transition. It's like okay, 1489.5593 1180 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1489.5593 (pause 1.04) 1490.5944 1181 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1490.5944 my sister did not go 1492.2160 1182 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1492.2160 (pause 0.16) 1492.3792 1183 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1492.3792 to /RD-SCHOOL-6/. 1493.4144 1184 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1493.4144 (pause 0.67) 1494.0811 1185 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1494.0811 So I ha- I had that separation. I- I'm /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1497.5597 1186 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1497.5597 (pause 0.68) 1498.2440 1187 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1498.2440 My sister went to 1499.1719 1188 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1499.1719 (pause 0.39) 1499.5636 1189 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1499.5636 what? /RD-SCHOOL-4/? 1500.7293 1190 VLD_int_01 1500.7479 Mm. 1500.9718 1191 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1500.9904 /RD-SCHOOL-7/ 1502.1888 1192 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1502.1888 (pause 0.80) 1502.9908 1193 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1502.9908 This was 1503.7369 1194 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1503.7369 (pause 0.60) 1504.3372 1195 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1504.3372 my turn, my own identity. None of my siblings had been there before me. 1508.6318 1196 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1508.6318 (pause 0.29) 1508.9209 1197 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1508.9209 That was important. 1509.6529 1198 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1509.6529 (pause 2.12) 1511.7734 1199 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1511.7734 There was always this kind of struggle for me to 1513.5966 1200 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1513.5966 (pause 0.40) 1513.9976 1201 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1513.9976 make my own space. Make my own identity. 1516.2811 1202 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1516.2811 (pause 0.68) 1516.9620 1203 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1516.9620 Um, 1517.3631 1204 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1517.3631 (pause 0.20) 1517.5589 1205 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1517.5589 so going into band was great. 1519.0977 1206 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1519.0977 (pause 0.46) 1519.5593 1207 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1519.5593 But 1519.8950 1208 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1519.8950 (pause 1.52) 1521.4198 1209 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1521.4198 then I decided 1522.4118 1210 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1522.4118 (pause 0.63) 1523.0413 1211 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1523.0413 I wanted to be a cheerleader. 1523.9926 1212 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1523.9926 (pause 1.70) 1525.6945 1213 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1525.6945 I really have no idea why that 1527.6424 1214 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1527.6424 (pause 0.34) 1527.9782 1215 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1527.9782 became something I wanted to do. But I wanted to do that, I wanted to be a cheerleader. 1530.9065 1216 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1530.9065 (pause 1.50) 1532.4079 1217 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1532.4079 And, um, 1533.0514 1218 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1533.0514 (pause 0.75) 1533.8010 1219 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1533.8010 in the midst of all that, still wanting to get good grades, still wanting to be 1537.1629 1220 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1537.1629 (pause 0.74) 1537.8997 1221 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1537.8997 academically successful, cause that's important. 1539.6809 1222 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1539.6809 (pause 0.91) 1540.5937 1223 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1540.5937 Wanting to do band too, 1541.8667 1224 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1541.8667 (pause 0.42) 1542.2863 1225 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1542.2863 it was this 1543.1536 1226 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1543.1536 (pause 1.76) 1544.9162 1227 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1544.9162 I need to be my own person. 1546.9947 1228 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1546.9947 (pause 0.95) 1547.9413 1229 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1547.9413 Funny story, 1548.7386 1230 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1548.7386 (pause 0.68) 1549.4147 1231 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1549.4147 I didn't try out for cheer in sixth grade, I did in seventh. 1552.5983 1232 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1552.5983 (pause 0.84) 1553.4423 1233 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1553.4423 And so the team 1554.3842 1234 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1554.3842 (pause 0.96) 1555.3401 1235 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1555.3401 that started in sixth grade, 1557.2566 1236 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1557.2566 (pause 1.45) 1558.7103 1237 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1558.7103 all of them decided to try out again 1560.6827 1238 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1560.6827 (pause 0.33) 1561.0091 1239 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1561.0091 in seventh grade. 1561.7645 1240 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1561.7645 (pause 1.54) 1563.3079 1241 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1563.3079 And 1563.5737 1242 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1563.5737 (pause 0.37) 1563.9409 1243 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1563.9409 every 1564.5983 1244 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1564.5983 (pause 0.76) 1565.3584 1245 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1565.3584 person 1566.1791 1246 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1566.1791 (pause 0.67) 1566.8459 1247 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1566.8459 who tried out from the previous year, 1569.0980 1248 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1569.0980 (pause 0.86) 1569.9595 1249 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1569.9595 made it the next year. 1571.4656 1250 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1571.4656 (pause 0.77) 1572.2350 1251 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1572.2350 Except for one white girl. 1574.1282 1252 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1574.1282 (pause 1.18) 1575.3125 1253 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1575.3125 And I remember getting a lot 1577.0227 1254 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1577.0227 (pause 0.20) 1577.2232 1255 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1577.2232 of 1577.7641 1256 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1577.7641 (pause 0.24) 1578.0019 1257 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1578.0019 backlash from my 1579.5966 1258 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1579.5966 (pause 0.49) 1580.0862 1259 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1580.0862 peers 1580.8975 1260 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1580.8975 (pause 0.14) 1581.0328 1261 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1581.0328 on the team. 1581.7648 1262 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1581.7648 (pause 0.83) 1582.5937 1263 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1582.5937 Um, even from the older team, because 1584.4495 1264 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1584.4495 (pause 0.76) 1585.2142 1265 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1585.2142 in their words, I took her spot. 1587.1260 1266 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1587.1260 (pause 1.38) 1588.5040 1267 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1588.5040 Yeah, I tried out like everybody else. I did the same material. 1591.1956 1268 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1591.1956 (pause 1.75) 1592.9442 1269 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1592.9442 Performed the same 1594.0399 1270 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1594.0399 (pause 0.56) 1594.6030 1271 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1594.6030 jumps, 1595.5029 1272 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1595.5029 (pause 0.75) 1596.2490 1273 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1596.2490 whatever 1596.9205 1274 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1596.9205 (pause 0.28) 1597.2002 1275 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1597.2002 we had to do for that particular tryout. 1599.0747 1276 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1599.0747 (pause 1.55) 1600.6263 1277 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1600.6263 And so this thing that was supposed to set me apart, helped me 1603.4847 1278 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1603.4847 (pause 0.86) 1604.3427 1279 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1604.3427 build my own identity, all of a sudden became this 1606.7289 1280 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1606.7289 (pause 0.73) 1607.4610 1281 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1607.4610 dark cloud. And 1608.6454 1282 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1608.6454 (pause 0.33) 1608.9720 1283 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1608.9720 wasn't even sure if I wanted to do it anymore. Because I thought it was gonna be fun. I thought it was gonna be a way to meet 1613.6337 1284 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1613.6337 (pause 0.60) 1614.2352 1285 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1614.2352 new friends. And expand my circle and it turned into this big circus. 1618.2395 1286 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1618.2395 (pause 1.22) 1619.4612 1287 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1619.4612 Um, 1619.8995 1288 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1619.8995 (pause 0.16) 1620.0580 1289 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1620.0580 I remember, 1620.7575 1290 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1620.7575 (pause 0.60) 1621.3543 1291 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1621.3543 questioning, 1622.0118 1292 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1622.0118 (pause 0.58) 1622.5947 1293 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1622.5947 am I gonna do this? 1623.3267 1294 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1623.3267 (pause 0.12) 1623.4515 1295 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1623.4515 Am I really gonna do this? 1624.4773 1296 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1624.4773 (pause 1.25) 1625.7316 1297 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1625.7316 Went forward with it, and I'm- and I'm glad I did. Because cheering did end up being something I loved and something I really enjoyed. And 1630.6312 1298 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1630.6312 (pause 0.79) 1631.4239 1299 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1631.4239 had a lot of fun with it over the years. 1633.5315 1300 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1633.5315 (pause 1.20) 1634.7299 1301 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1634.7299 But my passion was always band. 1636.2255 1302 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1636.2255 (pause 0.44) 1636.6638 1303 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1636.6638 And music. 1637.3471 1304 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1637.3471 (pause 0.59) 1637.9321 1305 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1637.9321 Love the music. 1638.7528 1306 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1638.7528 (pause 0.97) 1639.7274 1307 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1639.7274 And 1640.0911 1308 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1640.0911 (pause 0.32) 1640.4128 1309 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1640.4128 having the opportunity to 1642.1161 1310 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1642.1161 (pause 1.28) 1643.3959 1311 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1643.3959 shine in a way that 1644.9360 1312 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1644.9360 (pause 1.28) 1646.2170 1313 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1646.2170 there was a natural talent there. 1647.6438 1314 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1647.6438 (pause 0.14) 1647.7872 1315 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1647.7872 Was a natural ability there. 1649.0067 1316 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1649.0067 (pause 0.72) 1649.7223 1317 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1649.7223 And enjoyed 1650.4917 1318 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1650.4917 (pause 2.10) 1652.5935 1319 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1652.5935 expressing that part of my 1654.8830 1320 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1654.8830 (pause 1.04) 1655.9181 1321 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1655.9181 personality that I do have. 1657.6481 1322 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1657.6481 (pause 0.98) 1658.6320 1323 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1658.6320 Uh, a passion for 1660.0763 1324 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1660.0763 (pause 1.80) 1661.8715 1325 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1661.8715 art. 1662.3984 1326 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1662.3984 (pause 0.19) 1662.5896 1327 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1662.5896 And the arts. 1663.3963 1328 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1663.3963 (pause 0.22) 1663.6201 1329 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1663.6201 So that was- 1664.5480 1330 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1664.5480 (pause 1.78) 1666.3281 1331 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1666.3281 that was the bright spot. The cheer, I thought was a way for me to 1669.9978 1332 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1669.9978 (pause 1.22) 1671.2137 1333 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1671.2137 meet new people. And it- and it did. It did end up being that, but it also set me apart. 1675.1258 1334 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1675.1258 (pause 0.42) 1675.5502 1335 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1675.5502 My sister wasn't a cheerleader. 1676.6972 1336 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1676.6972 (pause 0.50) 1677.1950 1337 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1677.1950 I don't even think anybody in my family 1679.1767 1338 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1679.1767 (pause 0.85) 1680.0254 1339 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1680.0254 thought I could 1680.5383 1340 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1680.5383 (pause 0.44) 1680.9813 1341 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1680.9813 do it. It was just so far from 1682.5247 1342 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1682.5247 (pause 0.54) 1683.0609 1343 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1683.0609 anything any of- 1683.7079 1344 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1683.7079 (pause 0.40) 1684.1089 1345 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1684.1089 anything anyone in my family had done before. 1685.8855 1346 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1685.8855 (pause 0.91) 1686.7994 1347 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1686.7994 Which, 1687.1398 1348 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1687.1398 (pause 0.24) 1687.3823 1349 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1687.3823 was probably all the more reason why I wanted to do it. 1689.1682 1350 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1689.1682 (pause 0.14) 1689.3069 1351 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1689.3069 Cause they didn't think that I could. 1690.3819 1352 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1690.3819 (pause 0.95) 1691.3306 1353 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1691.3306 Um, 1691.8109 1354 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1691.8109 (pause 1.07) 1692.8824 1355 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1692.8824 1692.9682 1356 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1692.9682 (pause 0.08) 1693.0512 1357 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1693.0512 but then in middle school there's also the 1694.8791 1358 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1694.8791 (pause 1.64) 1696.5193 1359 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1696.5193 the transition into, 1699.4289 1360 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1699.4289 (pause 1.11) 1700.5340 1361 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1700.5340 uh, 1701.2195 1362 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1701.2195 (pause 2.86) 1704.0813 1363 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1704.0813 that- that drama that is middle school. (laughing) 1706.3557 1364 VLD_int_01 1707.1204 Hm. 1707.6893 1365 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1707.8385 [Uh.] 1708.4587 1366 VLD_int_01 1708.0711 [So much] of that. 1708.9623 1367 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1709.2980 There- there was a lot of that. 1710.4870 1368 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1710.4870 (pause 0.76) 1711.2517 1369 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1711.2517 And 1711.7320 1370 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1711.7320 (pause 1.64) 1713.3675 1371 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1713.3675 working through that, you know, you meet your best friend, right? 1716.5977 1372 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1716.5977 (pause 0.82) 1717.4149 1373 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1717.4149 Who didn't like you at first. 1719.3873 1374 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1719.3873 (pause 0.46) 1719.8478 1375 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1719.8478 S- 1720.1835 1376 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1720.1835 (pause 0.23) 1720.4167 1377 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1720.4167 [Crazy] 1721.2327 1378 VLD_int_01 1720.4260 [Is this- is this] backwards talk, or is this like straight talk. 1723.0699 1379 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1723.0932 This is 1723.4522 1380 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1723.4522 (pause 0.20) 1723.6481 1381 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1723.6481 totally straight talk. 1725.5426 1382 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1725.5426 (pause 0.77) 1726.3094 1383 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1726.3094 My best friend did not like me, (laughing) 1729.2577 1384 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1729.2577 (pause 0.70) 1729.9605 1385 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1729.9605 when we first met. (laughing) 1731.3780 1386 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1731.3780 (pause 1.39) 1732.7711 1387 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1732.7711 To this day, 1733.3959 1388 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1733.3959 (pause 0.64) 1734.0347 1389 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1734.0347 would you- 1734.2912 1390 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1734.2912 (pause 0.55) 1734.8414 1391 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1734.8414 would you care- 1735.2750 1392 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1735.2750 (pause 0.41) 1735.6854 1393 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1735.6854 enlighten me as to why you didn't 1737.2848 1394 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1737.2848 (pause 0.62) 1737.9084 1395 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1737.9084 like me 1738.3654 1396 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1738.3654 (pause 0.44) 1738.8037 1397 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1738.8037 as the best friend? 1739.6129 1398 VLD_int_01 1740.0860 Uh, 1740.2912 1399 VLD_int_01 1740.2912 (pause 0.19) 1740.4777 1400 VLD_int_01 1740.4777 Mm-hm. 1740.7342 1401 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1740.8974 [Yeah.] 1741.0699 1402 VLD_int_01 1740.8974 [Um.] 1741.6248 1403 VLD_int_01 1742.2403 1742.3242 1404 VLD_int_01 1742.3242 (pause 0.50) 1742.8266 1405 VLD_int_01 1742.8266 I really- I don't know. 1744.0788 1406 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1744.2467 1744.6477 1407 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1744.6477 (pause 0.30) 1744.9483 1408 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1744.9483 [] 1745.6897 1409 VLD_int_01 1744.9623 [Um.] 1745.6803 1410 VLD_int_01 1745.9461 Can't really- 1746.6922 1411 VLD_int_01 1746.6922 (pause 0.37) 1747.0652 1412 VLD_int_01 1747.0652 I'm not sure what happened there. 1748.2076 1413 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1748.6040 Not sure at all? 1749.3361 1414 VLD_int_01 1749.4002 Mm-mm. 1749.8105 1415 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1749.8758 But it's okay, because we were forced together. 1752.0067 1416 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1752.0067 (pause 1.37) 1753.3776 1417 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1753.3776 L- who- what was it? Coach? 1754.6133 1418 VLD_int_01 1754.9525 [Coach-] 1755.2743 1419 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1755.1157 [Coach] /RD-NAME-2/? 1755.6706 1420 VLD_int_01 1756.3467 Hy- yeah. [Coach /RD-NAME-2/.] 1757.6430 1421 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1757.0322 [Coach /RD-NAME-2/.] 1757.6570 1422 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1758.1420 And coach /RD-NAME-2/'s, uh, 1759.1911 1423 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1759.1911 (pause 0.73) 1759.9185 1424 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1759.9185 class. Which, 1760.6040 1425 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1760.6040 (pause 0.87) 1761.4701 1426 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1761.4701 not even sure I was even gonna get in. 1763.1394 1427 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1763.1394 (pause 0.54) 1763.6803 1428 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1763.6803 You know it's so funny, to be so smart, 1765.4289 1429 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1765.4289 (pause 0.79) 1766.2216 1430 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1766.2216 and have such great test scores and all that, 1768.2302 1431 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1768.2302 (pause 0.62) 1768.8457 1432 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1768.8457 they wanted to keep me out of gifted. 1770.2958 1433 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1770.2958 (pause 0.69) 1770.9859 1434 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1770.9859 Because I don't do very well 1772.5900 1435 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1772.5900 (pause 0.49) 1773.0784 1436 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1773.0784 on those 1773.6566 1437 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1773.6566 (pause 0.58) 1774.2395 1438 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1774.2395 analogies. 1775.2933 1439 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1775.2933 (pause 0.20) 1775.4892 1440 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1775.4892 This is to that as this is to- I- That's just- My brain doesn't think like that. 1778.9490 1441 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1778.9490 (pause 1.18) 1780.1323 1442 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1780.1323 So for two years, I was kept out of gifted classes, because that score 1784.3895 1443 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1784.3895 (pause 0.28) 1784.6739 1444 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1784.6739 wasn't 1785.1402 1445 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1785.1402 (pause 1.38) 1786.5193 1446 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1786.5193 the best in comparison to 1788.7621 1447 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1788.7621 (pause 0.29) 1789.0559 1448 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1789.0559 all my other scores 1790.0165 1449 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1790.0165 (pause 0.78) 1790.7998 1450 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1790.7998 but you know, that's when advocacy comes in. 1792.5939 1451 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1792.5939 (pause 1.02) 1793.6104 1452 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1793.6104 1793.7316 1453 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1793.7316 (pause 0.12) 1793.8529 1454 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1793.8529 Cause mama 1794.5150 1455 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1794.5150 (pause 0.99) 1795.5035 1456 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1795.5035 was like, this is ridiculous. 1796.8837 1457 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1796.8837 (pause 0.60) 1797.4794 1458 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1797.4794 And she stood up for me. 1799.0975 1459 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1799.0975 (pause 0.26) 1799.3586 1460 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1799.3586 And 1799.7270 1461 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1799.7270 (pause 0.28) 1800.0067 1462 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1800.0067 got me into gifted 1800.8834 1463 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1800.8834 (pause 0.69) 1801.5735 1464 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1801.5735 and aren't we glad she did. Cause then I wouldn't have been in coach /RD-NAME-2/'s class. 1804.4027 1465 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1804.4027 (pause 0.49) 1804.8923 1466 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1804.8923 Then we wouldn't have been forced to work on our history day project together. (laughing) 1808.0069 1467 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1808.0069 (pause 1.37) 1809.3769 1468 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1809.3769 In which case, 1810.3980 1469 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1810.3980 (pause 0.18) 1810.5799 1470 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1810.5799 yeah the rest is history. 1811.6290 1471 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1811.6290 (pause 0.99) 1812.6176 1472 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1812.6176 But, um, 1813.2284 1473 VLD_int_01 1813.7274 No pun intended. 1814.5760 1474 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1815.4375 Oh, it was history wasn't it. 1816.7011 1475 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1816.7011 (pause 0.78) 1817.4798 1476 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1817.4798 It was great. 1817.9368 1477 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1817.9368 (pause 0.33) 1818.2679 1478 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1818.2679 So, I think that in middle school, 1821.1262 1479 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1821.1262 (pause 1.17) 1822.2955 1480 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1822.2955 it was my time for 1823.8202 1481 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1823.8202 (pause 0.48) 1824.3005 1482 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1824.3005 figuring out who I was, what I wanted to do. 1826.6320 1483 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1826.6320 (pause 0.88) 1827.5121 1484 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1827.5121 And 1828.0017 1485 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1828.0017 (pause 0.59) 1828.5939 1486 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1828.5939 in that time, 1830.1793 1487 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1830.1793 (pause 0.32) 1830.4963 1488 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1830.4963 of 1831.0139 1489 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1831.0139 (pause 0.36) 1831.3730 1490 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1831.3730 grade school growing up, because by the time I got to high school, 1833.8898 1491 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1833.8898 (pause 1.43) 1835.3166 1492 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1835.3166 I felt a lot more sure of who I was and what I wanted to do. And- and how I wanted to spend my time in high school and w- 1841.5451 1493 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1841.5451 (pause 0.30) 1841.8435 1494 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1841.8435 what came next with college and all that. 1843.8439 1495 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1843.8439 (pause 0.47) 1844.3091 1496 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1844.3091 but in middle school I felt like that was my formative time. 1846.8130 1497 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1846.8130 (pause 0.45) 1847.2653 1498 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1847.2653 And 1847.8575 1499 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1847.8575 (pause 0.42) 1848.2772 1500 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1848.2772 getting the opportunity to 1850.0584 1501 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1850.0584 (pause 0.46) 1850.5200 1502 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1850.5200 experience. 1851.6032 1503 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1851.6032 (pause 0.70) 1852.3001 1504 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1852.3001 All that is the drama of middle school from 1854.9347 1505 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1854.9347 (pause 0.61) 1855.5455 1506 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1855.5455 your best friend 1856.4035 1507 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1856.4035 (pause 0.33) 1856.7287 1508 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1856.7287 not liking you at first. And then becoming your best friend. And then getting mad at you. 1860.5150 1509 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1860.5150 (pause 0.58) 1861.0979 1510 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1861.0979 And then 1861.7180 1511 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1861.7180 (pause 0.28) 1861.9931 1512 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1861.9931 figuring out how to fix it. 1863.5692 1513 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1863.5692 (pause 0.15) 1863.7219 1514 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1863.7219 And then 1864.2675 1515 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1864.2675 (pause 0.69) 1864.9623 1516 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1864.9623 going through 1865.9275 1517 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1865.9275 (pause 2.93) 1868.8546 1518 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1868.8546 dealing with other people in your relationship. And 1871.7783 1519 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1871.7783 (pause 1.42) 1873.2030 1520 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1873.2030 how to navigate not 1875.4051 1521 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1875.4051 (pause 0.48) 1875.8857 1522 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1875.8857 letting other people 1877.3632 1523 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1877.3632 (pause 0.92) 1878.2803 1524 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1878.2803 ruin your relationship. I think we've 1880.2050 1525 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1880.2050 (pause 0.40) 1880.6053 1526 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1880.6053 also 1881.2466 1527 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1881.2466 (pause 0.59) 1881.8348 1528 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1881.8348 had practice at that later, 1883.2585 1529 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1883.2585 (pause 0.29) 1883.5523 1530 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1883.5523 in 1883.9253 1531 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1883.9253 (pause 0.94) 1884.8690 1532 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1884.8690 life as well. 1885.8993 1533 VLD_int_01 1887.0654 That was very passive aggressive actually. 1888.8707 1534 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1888.9670 No, not at all. 1889.8501 1535 VLD_int_01 1889.9350 Mm, little bit. 1890.7105 1536 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1891.0728 No. 1891.4011 1537 VLD_int_01 1891.5030 Oh, okay. 1891.9899 1538 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1892.4597 It wasn't meant to be. 1893.1164 1539 VLD_int_01 1893.2239 Oh, hm. 1893.8240 1540 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1894.3782 No it wasn't. 1894.8537 1541 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1894.8537 (pause 0.51) 1895.3632 1542 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1895.3632 It was truly meant to say that n- 1897.0332 1543 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1897.0332 (pause 0.40) 1897.4294 1544 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1897.4294 I think that laid a foundation for how we've 1900.0391 1545 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1900.0391 (pause 0.53) 1900.5707 1546 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1900.5707 been able to, deal with other people in our relationship. 1903.6276 1547 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1903.6276 (pause 0.94) 1904.5673 1548 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1904.5673 Cause there has- that has happened multiple times. 1906.6866 1549 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1906.6866 (pause 0.82) 1907.5047 1550 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1907.5047 A- and 1908.2293 1551 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1908.2293 (pause 1.84) 1910.0691 1552 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1910.0691 I don't think if we hadn't of made it passed some of those couple 1912.8143 1553 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1912.8143 (pause 0.45) 1913.2613 1554 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1913.2613 instances we had in middle school we wouldn't have 1915.4125 1555 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1915.4125 (pause 0.37) 1915.7804 1556 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1915.7804 been able to deal with the ones we've had later 1917.7221 1557 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1917.7221 (pause 1.43) 1919.1481 1558 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1919.1481 in life. 1919.7538 1559 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1919.7538 (pause 0.62) 1920.3709 1560 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1920.3709 So middle school was my, 1921.6559 1561 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1921.6559 (pause 1.83) 1923.4895 1562 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1923.4895 coming of age almost. 1924.8877 1563 VLD_int_01 1928.1110 Yeah. I think, um, 1929.8976 1564 VLD_int_01 1929.8976 (pause 0.46) 1930.3613 1565 VLD_int_01 1930.3613 when I think of for me, when I think of middle school and I think of- 1933.1351 1566 VLD_int_01 1933.1351 (pause 0.32) 1933.4577 1567 VLD_int_01 1933.4577 Yeah, the whole, 1934.6465 1568 VLD_int_01 1934.6465 (pause 0.73) 1935.3768 1569 VLD_int_01 1935.3768 um, seventh grade was weird. 1936.8143 1570 VLD_int_01 1936.8143 (pause 0.57) 1937.3859 1571 VLD_int_01 1937.3859 Um, but eighth grade, 1938.7048 1572 VLD_int_01 1938.7048 (pause 0.32) 1939.0275 1573 VLD_int_01 1939.0275 I think paw prints, was like our thing, 1941.6428 1574 VLD_int_01 1941.6428 (pause 0.68) 1942.3273 1575 VLD_int_01 1942.3273 um, [/we were reading-/] 1943.5330 1576 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1943.1708 [Still have that] issue. 1944.1331 1577 VLD_int_01 1944.5124 Me too. 1945.3275 1578 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1945.3162 With the picture that we took together. Nobody else had done that before. 1947.8976 1579 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1949.1368 Pioneers. 1949.9746 1580 VLD_int_01 1950.1274 Exactly. 1950.7332 1581 VLD_int_01 1950.7332 (pause 0.23) 1950.9652 1582 VLD_int_01 1950.9652 [Pioneer-] 1951.7295 1583 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1950.9709 [Pioneers.] 1951.7578 1584 VLD_int_01 1952.1767 Um, 1952.7484 1585 VLD_int_01 1952.7484 (pause 0.31) 1953.0541 1586 VLD_int_01 1953.0541 and doing all of those things. So let's talk about high school a little bit, cause I think- 1956.5746 1587 VLD_int_01 1956.5746 (pause 0.76) 1957.3389 1588 VLD_int_01 1957.3389 Talk about how high school- The importance of high school- First of all in our town, 1961.1424 1589 VLD_int_01 1961.1424 (pause 0.71) 1961.8557 1590 VLD_int_01 1961.8557 um, and then kind of your own high school experience. 1964.4144 1591 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1965.7674 1966.1636 1592 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1966.1636 (pause 2.07) 1968.2350 1593 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1968.2350 1968.7954 1594 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1968.7954 (pause 0.38) 1969.1804 1595 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1969.1804 I bleed black and gold like 1970.8560 1596 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1970.8560 (pause 0.38) 1971.2409 1597 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1971.2409 every other /RD-SCHOOL-3/ Wildcat. I am definitely a Wildcat and I'm happy to be a Wildcat. 1975.4917 1598 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1975.4917 (pause 0.87) 1976.3635 1599 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1976.3635 I'll always be a Wildcat, first and foremost. In fact, I identify more as a Wildcat than I do as a /RD-SCHOOL-5/ General, 1982.5843 1600 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1982.5843 (pause 0.47) 1983.0541 1601 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1983.0541 or a 1983.8240 1602 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1983.8240 (pause 1.32) 1985.1424 1603 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1985.1424 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 1986.0765 1604 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1986.0765 (pause 0.77) 1986.8464 1605 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1986.8464 /RD-SCHOOL-4/. See? I- I had to think about what the mascot is. I don't- 1989.7787 1606 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1989.7787 (pause 0.17) 1989.9485 1607 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1989.9485 I don't even know what the mascot is. 1990.8143 1608 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1990.8143 (pause 1.46) 1992.2746 1609 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1992.2746 I am definitely a Wildcat. And am proud of it, cause 1995.2353 1610 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1995.2353 (pause 0.73) 1995.9650 1611 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1995.9650 in Valdosta, th- that's just- 1998.2010 1612 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1998.2010 (pause 1.32) 1999.5257 1613 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 1999.5257 when you talk about Friday Night Lights, 2001.1882 1614 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2001.1882 (pause 0.65) 2001.8348 1615 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2001.8348 there's nothing like 2003.5783 1616 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2003.5783 (pause 1.50) 2005.0785 1617 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2005.0785 Valdosta 2006.3465 1618 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2006.3465 (pause 0.74) 2007.0824 1619 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2007.0824 Lowndes County 2008.0448 1620 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2008.0448 (pause 0.32) 2008.3679 1621 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2008.3679 football. 2009.0122 1622 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2009.0122 (pause 0.76) 2009.7708 1623 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2009.7708 And being a part of something so 2012.5050 1624 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2012.5050 (pause 0.22) 2012.7258 1625 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2012.7258 special. 2013.4447 1626 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2013.4447 (pause 0.67) 2014.1178 1627 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2014.1178 Being a marching cat meant something. I mean, 2016.9143 1628 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2016.9143 (pause 0.75) 2017.6615 1629 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2017.6615 yes we had the football team, 2018.9918 1630 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2018.9918 (pause 0.31) 2019.3032 1631 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2019.3032 I don't know if you remember, 2020.2259 1632 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2020.2259 (pause 0.36) 2020.5820 1633 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2020.5820 it was that game, 2021.3519 1634 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2021.3519 (pause 0.27) 2021.6180 1635 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2021.6180 I don't remember who we were playing, 2022.7105 1636 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2022.7105 (pause 0.65) 2023.3615 1637 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2023.3615 but we had a competition the next day, 2025.0201 1638 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2025.0201 (pause 0.71) 2025.7272 1639 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2025.7272 and /RD-NAME-2/ had us leave 2027.5274 1640 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2027.5274 (pause 0.55) 2028.0822 1641 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2028.0822 at half time 2028.8747 1642 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2028.8747 (pause 0.22) 2029.0954 1643 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2029.0954 because he wanted us to you know, get packed up, 2031.0824 1644 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2031.0824 (pause 0.35) 2031.4277 1645 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2031.4277 get rest, 2032.1240 1646 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2032.1240 (pause 0.07) 2032.1971 1647 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2032.1971 cause we had to go to competition. 2033.2217 1648 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2033.2217 (pause 0.55) 2033.7708 1649 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2033.7708 We were winning before half time, 2035.2936 1650 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2035.2936 (pause 0.83) 2036.1201 1651 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2036.1201 the band left, 2037.0881 1652 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2037.0881 (pause 0.48) 2037.5687 1653 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2037.5687 we ended up losing the game. And we're almost ostracized at school the next 2041.5030 1654 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2041.5030 (pause 0.71) 2042.2106 1655 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2042.2106 Monday, because it was our fault that 2043.9655 1656 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2043.9655 (pause 0.19) 2044.1523 1657 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2044.1523 the team lost. How could you leave us? You were there- you- you were supposed to be there, to support us. 2048.7145 1658 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2048.7145 (pause 1.60) 2050.3103 1659 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2050.3103 Being in the band was, 2052.2803 1660 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2052.2803 (pause 0.36) 2052.6426 1661 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2052.6426 uh, yeah you have your typical kind of band geek 2055.4277 1662 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2055.4277 (pause 0.25) 2055.6825 1663 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2055.6825 stereotypes and stuff, but 2057.3745 1664 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2057.3745 (pause 0.65) 2058.0221 1665 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2058.0221 for us it wasn't just oh 2060.6126 1666 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2060.6126 (pause 0.17) 2060.7824 1667 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2060.7824 those band nerds. Being a marching cat was actually 2063.2726 1668 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2063.2726 (pause 0.68) 2063.9520 1669 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2063.9520 important, it 2065.0275 1670 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2065.0275 (pause 0.36) 2065.3842 1671 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2065.3842 it was 2065.9502 1672 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2065.9502 (pause 0.32) 2066.2729 1673 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2066.2729 not 2066.8730 1674 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2066.8730 (pause 1.64) 2068.5141 1675 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2068.5141 a scarlet letter, 2069.6123 1676 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2069.6123 (pause 2.07) 2071.6842 1677 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2071.6842 and being a part of that meant something to me. I enjoyed it. 2074.8143 1678 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2074.8143 (pause 0.58) 2075.3915 1679 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2075.3915 Yeah, we have some of the 2077.6389 1680 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2077.6389 (pause 1.02) 2078.6635 1681 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2078.6635 most, 2079.6768 1682 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2079.6768 (pause 1.45) 2081.1311 1683 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2081.1311 oh, how do you put it? 2083.0445 1684 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2083.0445 (pause 2.44) 2085.4838 1685 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2085.4838 They're the best and worst memories all at the same time. There's 2088.6086 1686 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2088.6086 (pause 1.66) 2090.2729 1687 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2090.2729 twelve seconds to the moon and 2091.8693 1688 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2091.8693 (pause 0.29) 2092.1631 1689 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2092.1631 getting the baton thrown out and we out in the parking lot, 2095.1238 1690 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2095.1238 (pause 1.61) 2096.7371 1691 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2096.7371 screaming and honking horns cause we're frustrated and he's frustrated and everybody's frustrated, 2102.0465 1692 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2102.0465 (pause 0.75) 2102.7937 1693 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2102.7937 to 2103.4957 1694 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2103.4957 (pause 0.89) 2104.3839 1695 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2104.3839 grand champions all four years, to 2107.0049 1696 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2107.0049 (pause 1.53) 2108.5333 1697 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2108.5333 realizing that 2109.7570 1698 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2109.7570 (pause 0.34) 2110.0952 1699 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2110.0952 we had two of the 2111.1708 1700 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2111.1708 (pause 0.68) 2111.8557 1701 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2111.8557 best band directors together, 2113.5936 1702 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2113.5936 (pause 0.68) 2114.2729 1703 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2114.2729 that probably any band could ask for. 2116.2882 1704 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2116.2882 (pause 0.98) 2117.2726 1705 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2117.2726 Separate, 2117.8614 1706 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2117.8614 (pause 0.41) 2118.2690 1707 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2118.2690 maybe not so much, 2119.2709 1708 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2119.2709 (pause 0.40) 2119.6729 1709 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2119.6729 but together, 2120.8333 1710 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2120.8333 (pause 0.82) 2121.6542 1711 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2121.6542 we had 2122.3026 1712 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2122.3026 (pause 1.45) 2123.7510 1713 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2123.7510 an amazing instructing staff who could 2126.9517 1714 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2126.9517 (pause 1.41) 2128.3660 1715 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2128.3660 really get the best out of 2130.0966 1716 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2130.0966 (pause 1.40) 2131.4940 1717 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2131.4940 you know, some teenagers. 2132.7408 1718 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2132.7408 (pause 0.58) 2133.3239 1719 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2133.3239 And not just on the field, not just behind the music stand, but 2137.2645 1720 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2137.2645 (pause 0.25) 2137.5127 1721 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2137.5127 as people. 2138.3066 1722 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2138.3066 (pause 0.63) 2138.9393 1723 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2138.9393 I remember being 2140.2171 1724 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2140.2171 (pause 0.37) 2140.5893 1725 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2140.5893 required to have a planner. 2141.8981 1726 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2141.8981 (pause 0.64) 2142.5388 1727 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2142.5388 And making sure that we brought our planner. 2144.2074 1728 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2144.2074 (pause 0.42) 2144.6230 1729 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2144.6230 And we're having planner checks. And 2146.6513 1730 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2146.6513 (pause 0.46) 2147.1103 1731 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2147.1103 staying on top of our 2148.3881 1732 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2148.3881 (pause 0.34) 2148.7311 1733 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2148.7311 responsibilities and 2149.7360 1734 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2149.7360 (pause 0.22) 2149.9593 1735 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2149.9593 feeling very 2150.9207 1736 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2150.9207 (pause 2.26) 2153.1785 1737 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2153.1785 in control feeling very like, we- we've been given 2156.1329 1738 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2156.1329 (pause 0.88) 2157.0137 1739 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2157.0137 a lot of responsibility as student leaders. 2159.0917 1740 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2159.0917 (pause 0.84) 2159.9291 1741 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2159.9291 To self govern. To self manage. 2162.4183 1742 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2162.4183 (pause 1.26) 2163.6775 1743 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2163.6775 To not just settle for 2166.3385 1744 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2166.3385 (pause 0.85) 2167.1839 1745 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2167.1839 where the band directors 2168.3562 1746 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2168.3562 (pause 0.61) 2168.9690 1747 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2168.9690 do what we tell you to, 2170.3288 1748 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2170.3288 (pause 1.35) 2171.6810 1749 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2171.6810 but so much more than that. We want you to be fully productive people and contributing members of society. It was bigger than 2178.4749 1750 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2178.4749 (pause 0.85) 2179.3266 1751 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2179.3266 just the music. 2180.0833 1752 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2180.0833 (pause 1.31) 2181.3933 1753 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2181.3933 So band was probably, 2183.2632 1754 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2183.2632 (pause 1.24) 2184.5078 1755 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2184.5078 the 2185.1777 1756 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2185.1777 (pause 1.60) 2186.7780 1757 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2186.7780 central part 2187.5879 1758 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2187.5879 (pause 0.27) 2187.8546 1759 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2187.8546 I would say for- 2188.7878 1760 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2188.7878 (pause 0.82) 2189.6065 1761 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2189.6065 for high school. 2190.3943 1762 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2190.3943 (pause 0.38) 2190.7745 1763 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2190.7745 The band room was like 2192.0151 1764 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2192.0151 (pause 2.52) 2194.5396 1765 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2194.5396 the center of 2195.5569 1766 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2195.5569 (pause 0.94) 2196.5016 1767 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2196.5016 my high school universe, it- 2198.5423 1768 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2198.5423 (pause 0.19) 2198.7284 1769 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2198.7284 There before school, 2199.8946 1770 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2199.8946 (pause 0.33) 2200.2295 1771 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2200.2295 there during lunch, whether we were supposed to be there or not. 2202.3509 1772 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2202.3509 (pause 0.43) 2202.7807 1773 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2202.7807 There after school. 2203.6553 1774 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2203.6553 (pause 0.55) 2204.2074 1775 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2204.2074 It- There 2205.1502 1776 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2205.1502 (pause 0.51) 2205.6588 1777 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2205.6588 you know, whether it was right after school, or coming back for band practice and being there. 2210.8277 1778 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2210.8277 (pause 0.64) 2211.4666 1779 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2211.4666 Sectionals and rehearsals and 2213.2592 1780 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2213.2592 (pause 0.94) 2214.2038 1781 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2214.2038 band camp and being there early, before band camp to get the music together, get the lockers done. And 2219.9043 1782 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2219.9043 (pause 0.97) 2220.8714 1783 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2220.8714 ther- It- Just everything I remember about high school, there's so much 2224.4264 1784 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2224.4264 (pause 0.93) 2225.3548 1785 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2225.3548 about 2225.8756 1786 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2225.8756 (pause 0.25) 2226.1247 1787 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2226.1247 school I don't remember, 2227.9300 1788 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2227.9300 (pause 0.71) 2228.6376 1789 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2228.6376 there's so much I remember about being a part 2231.3095 1790 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2231.3095 (pause 0.89) 2232.1977 1791 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2232.1977 of the band. And 2233.3469 1792 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2233.3469 (pause 0.82) 2234.1621 1793 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2234.1621 the times that we shared, the good and the bad. 2237.0887 1794 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2237.0887 (pause 0.79) 2237.8756 1795 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2237.8756 Lassiter, 2238.7134 1796 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2238.7134 (pause 2.14) 2240.8571 1797 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2240.8571 2241.6265 1798 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2241.6265 (pause 0.50) 2242.1301 1799 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2242.1301 the /cutie/ 2242.8113 1800 VLD_int_01 2243.6584 [] 2245.7567 1801 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2243.9148 [] 2245.3510 1802 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2245.8033 [] 2246.5027 1803 VLD_int_01 2246.2243 [Orange] shirt. 2247.0282 1804 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2247.2489 Orange shirt. 2248.8510 1805 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2248.8510 (pause 0.61) 2249.4623 1806 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2249.4623 A- and just 2250.3511 1807 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2250.3511 (pause 0.50) 2250.8487 1808 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2250.8487 that wasn't- 2251.4601 1809 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2251.4601 (pause 0.62) 2252.0771 1810 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2252.0771 That's not bad. 2252.8583 1811 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2252.8583 (pause 0.44) 2253.2942 1812 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2253.2942 It wasn't good, 2254.3358 1813 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2254.3358 (pause 0.44) 2254.7774 1814 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2254.7774 but that's not bad. 2255.7737 1815 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2255.7737 (pause 0.87) 2256.6449 1816 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2256.6449 Those moments that 2257.9130 1817 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2257.9130 (pause 1.61) 2259.5207 1818 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2259.5207 many of us can- can sit and talk about 2262.9959 1819 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2262.9959 (pause 1.14) 2264.1394 1820 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2264.1394 and know that 2264.9433 1821 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2264.9433 (pause 0.54) 2265.4867 1822 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2265.4867 we experience that together. We grew together. 2267.8699 1823 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2267.8699 (pause 1.75) 2269.6186 1824 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2269.6186 A lot of what we learned, I think, honestly, we've carried into adulthood. 2273.4623 1825 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2273.4623 (pause 0.66) 2274.1241 1826 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2274.1241 That is 2274.7921 1827 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2274.7921 (pause 0.26) 2275.0525 1828 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2275.0525 what I most cherished about high school. 2277.7754 1829 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2277.7754 (pause 0.40) 2278.1717 1830 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2278.1717 When people say, oh I would go do college again, I would never do college again. 2280.8040 1831 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2280.8040 (pause 0.50) 2281.3016 1832 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2281.3016 I would totally do high school again. 2282.4960 1833 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2282.4960 (pause 1.23) 2283.7245 1834 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2283.7245 I wouldn't do middle school again either. 2284.9868 1835 VLD_int_01 2285.8185 2286.3110 1836 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2286.3223 Definitely wouldn't do middle school. I would do high school again though. 2288.9489 1837 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2288.9489 (pause 0.43) 2289.3791 1838 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2289.3791 Cause I had- 2290.2283 1839 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2290.2283 (pause 1.39) 2291.6208 1840 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2291.6208 i- it wasn't all sunshine and roses. I mean, there were ups and downs, just like any other 2295.7414 1841 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2295.7414 (pause 0.40) 2296.1434 1842 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2296.1434 high school 2296.8736 1843 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2296.8736 (pause 0.19) 2297.0661 1844 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2297.0661 experience, 2297.9435 1845 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2297.9435 (pause 0.24) 2298.1869 1846 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2298.1869 but 2298.4360 1847 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2298.4360 (pause 0.89) 2299.3299 1848 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2299.3299 that's where I had 2300.5413 1849 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2300.5413 (pause 0.54) 2301.0848 1850 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2301.0848 the most fun, 2301.9282 1851 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2301.9282 (pause 0.67) 2302.5962 1852 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2302.5962 um, 2303.0831 1853 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2303.0831 (pause 1.51) 2304.5940 1854 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2304.5940 and in terms of who I was, yeah I was still trying to figure that out, but 2308.2453 1855 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2308.2453 (pause 0.93) 2309.1793 1856 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2309.1793 I felt very much so accepted for just who I was. The- the little 2313.0112 1857 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2313.0112 (pause 0.17) 2313.1810 1858 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2313.1810 sort of kind of band geek. But she- she kind of cool, she alright. 2316.6851 1859 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2316.6851 (pause 0.78) 2317.4601 1860 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2317.4601 Who was a cheerleader, but I made the choice. And I didn't 2320.0415 1861 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2320.0415 (pause 0.18) 2320.2169 1862 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2320.2169 want to do that anymore. I- 2321.7963 1863 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2321.7963 (pause 0.54) 2322.3393 1864 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2322.3393 And- and I had to make a choice. 2323.7092 1865 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2323.7092 (pause 0.25) 2323.9583 1866 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2323.9583 Couldn't do both. You couldn't do band and cheer at the same time. I had to make a choice. 2327.7227 1867 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2327.7227 (pause 0.82) 2328.5430 1868 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2328.5430 I was perfectly content with the choice I made. I wanted to do band. 2331.9509 1869 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2331.9509 (pause 1.30) 2333.2529 1870 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2333.2529 I wanted to be a part of Friday Night Lights. 2335.6573 1871 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2335.6573 (pause 0.13) 2335.7859 1872 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2335.7859 I wanted to be on the field. 2337.0904 1873 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2337.0904 (pause 1.21) 2338.2962 1874 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2338.2962 I wanted to 2339.2133 1875 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2339.2133 (pause 1.11) 2340.3279 1876 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2340.3279 be a part of something that is just 2342.3602 1877 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2342.3602 (pause 0.23) 2342.5923 1878 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2342.5923 Valdosta tradition and history. 2344.9812 1879 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2344.9812 (pause 0.74) 2345.7171 1880 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2345.7171 The 2346.2152 1881 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2346.2152 (pause 0.77) 2346.9846 1882 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2346.9846 times that we've 2348.0432 1883 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2348.0432 (pause 0.48) 2348.5187 1884 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2348.5187 been able to 2349.4301 1885 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2349.4301 (pause 0.74) 2350.1660 1886 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2350.1660 march every parade in the Winnersville Classic. And 2353.2337 1887 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2353.2337 (pause 1.61) 2354.8470 1888 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2354.8470 gosh. Those are the things that made high school 2357.2359 1889 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2357.2359 (pause 2.56) 2359.7998 1890 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2359.7998 everything it was. 2361.0735 1891 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2361.0735 (pause 1.08) 2362.1547 1892 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2362.1547 Besides 2362.7208 1893 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2362.7208 (pause 0.50) 2363.2189 1894 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2363.2189 then other stuff like 2364.1983 1895 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2364.1983 (pause 0.25) 2364.4525 1896 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2364.4525 you know, doing the announcements in the morning. 2365.9809 1897 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2365.9809 (pause 0.74) 2366.7225 1898 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2366.7225 in the principal's office. 2367.9056 1899 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2367.9056 (pause 0.44) 2368.3471 1900 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2368.3471 Wanting to be in the principal's office weird. 2370.4298 1901 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2370.4298 (pause 1.05) 2371.4771 1902 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2371.4771 And 2372.0319 1903 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2372.0319 (pause 0.31) 2372.3432 1904 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2372.3432 hanging out at, 2373.4527 1905 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2373.4527 (pause 1.01) 2374.4660 1906 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2374.4660 um, 2374.9755 1907 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2374.9755 (pause 2.03) 2377.0072 1908 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2377.0072 Hanging out in the principal's office. And 2379.1697 1909 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2379.1697 (pause 0.24) 2379.4131 1910 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2379.4131 deciding that, hey, we're gonna leave for lunch today, and walking by the principal and saying bye. 2383.1431 1911 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2383.1431 (pause 1.10) 2384.2470 1912 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2384.2470 And he saying okay. 2385.1867 1913 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2385.1867 (pause 1.10) 2386.2905 1914 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2386.2905 Even though we're technically skipping school. 2387.9152 1915 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2387.9152 (pause 0.22) 2388.1303 1916 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2388.1303 2388.8101 1917 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2388.8101 (pause 0.90) 2389.7148 1918 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2389.7148 I- 2389.9300 1919 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2389.9300 (pause 1.06) 2390.9885 1920 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2390.9885 High school just worked for me. 2392.5057 1921 VLD_int_01 2394.9903 2395.2110 1922 VLD_int_01 2395.2110 (pause 0.35) 2395.5620 1923 VLD_int_01 2395.5620 Yep, 2396.0074 1924 VLD_int_01 2396.0074 (pause 0.42) 2396.4239 1925 VLD_int_01 2396.4239 pretty good. 2396.9716 1926 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2397.6848 It was great. 2398.1320 1927 VLD_int_01 2398.2226 It was- It was pretty 2400.3223 1928 VLD_int_01 2400.3223 (pause 0.39) 2400.7129 1929 VLD_int_01 2400.7129 darn good actually. 2401.5337 1930 VLD_int_01 2401.5337 (pause 0.68) 2402.2187 1931 VLD_int_01 2402.2187 Um, 2403.3169 1932 VLD_int_01 2403.3169 (pause 0.92) 2404.2396 1933 VLD_int_01 2404.2396 do you think that- 2405.8812 1934 VLD_int_01 2405.8812 (pause 2.67) 2408.5527 1935 VLD_int_01 2408.5527 Going back where you talked about like, the one white girl and- and how you took her spot, 2413.2337 1936 VLD_int_01 2413.2337 (pause 1.25) 2414.4791 1937 VLD_int_01 2414.4791 um, 2414.9999 1938 VLD_int_01 2414.9999 (pause 0.64) 2415.6395 1939 VLD_int_01 2415.6395 do you think there are like, issues of- 2418.0114 1940 VLD_int_01 2418.0114 (pause 1.09) 2419.0978 1941 VLD_int_01 2419.0978 Like it is the deep South- 2420.0319 1942 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2420.2753 Mm-hm. 2420.5696 1943 VLD_int_01 2420.6036 Do you think there are like racial issues? Did you see that? 2422.9076 1944 VLD_int_01 2422.9076 (pause 0.49) 2423.3944 1945 VLD_int_01 2423.3944 [Even] beyond 2424.2152 1946 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2423.4001 [Mm.] 2423.6378 1947 VLD_int_01 2424.7582 middle school, like [in high school?] 2426.1734 1948 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2425.4544 [Absolutely.] 2426.1847 1949 VLD_int_01 2426.2979 Like, 2426.5017 1950 VLD_int_01 2426.5017 (pause 0.20) 2426.7055 1951 VLD_int_01 2426.7055 so tell me a little bit about it. 2427.8150 1952 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2427.8886 Absolutely. 2428.4151 1953 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2428.4151 (pause 0.80) 2429.2189 1954 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2429.2189 I don't even know if you know this actually. 2430.6681 1955 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2430.6681 (pause 2.26) 2432.9319 1956 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2432.9319 So there was 2433.8999 1957 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2433.8999 (pause 0.67) 2434.5736 1958 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2434.5736 our relationship. And then there was the trio. There was me, you, 2438.1621 1959 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2438.1621 (pause 0.79) 2438.9489 1960 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2438.9489 um, 2439.4074 1961 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2439.4074 (pause 0.96) 2440.3698 1962 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2440.3698 well, 2440.6359 1963 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2440.6359 (pause 0.22) 2440.8566 1964 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2440.8566 and Jenny. 2441.4963 1965 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2441.4963 (pause 0.33) 2441.8303 1966 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2441.8303 And then sometimes /RD-NAME-3/. 2442.9884 1967 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2442.9884 (pause 0.12) 2443.1075 1968 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2443.1075 Yeah, and that 2443.5394 1969 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2443.5394 (pause 0.48) 2444.0149 1970 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2444.0149 as well. 2444.5187 1971 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2444.5187 (pause 0.71) 2445.2320 1972 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2445.2320 But then there was my relationship with /RD-NAME-4/. 2446.8340 1973 VLD_int_01 2447.0887 Mm-hm. 2447.3887 1974 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2447.4114 And 2447.8699 1975 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2447.8699 (pause 0.35) 2448.2152 1976 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2448.2152 as you- I mean growing up we were close. Well, 2450.2073 1977 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2450.2073 (pause 0.27) 2450.4791 1978 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2450.4791 once we got to high school we were close, 2452.0811 1979 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2452.0811 (pause 1.11) 2453.1906 1980 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2453.1906 we- 2453.4550 1981 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2453.4550 (pause 1.14) 2454.5997 1982 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2454.5997 to a certain degree, it probably was 2456.1394 1983 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2456.1394 (pause 2.20) 2458.3415 1984 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2458.3415 maybe interfered in our relationship a little bit, because I was trying to figure out my 2462.7961 1985 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2462.7961 (pause 0.80) 2463.5999 1986 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2463.5999 friendships. 2464.4321 1987 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2464.4321 (pause 0.30) 2464.7321 1988 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2464.7321 And I was really really really close 2466.9172 1989 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2466.9172 (pause 0.60) 2467.5167 1990 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2467.5167 with /RD-NAME-4/. 2468.3036 1991 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2468.3036 (pause 1.29) 2469.5886 1992 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2469.5886 Her dad was a- 2470.4207 1993 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2470.4207 (pause 0.78) 2471.1963 1994 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2471.1963 a racist. 2472.0567 1995 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2472.0567 (pause 0.27) 2472.3228 1996 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2472.3228 And 2472.8040 1997 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2472.8040 (pause 0.93) 2473.7318 1998 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2473.7318 I remember f- 2475.2942 1999 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2475.2942 (pause 0.70) 2475.9905 2000 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2475.9905 finding that out. 2476.9019 2001 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2476.9019 (pause 0.70) 2477.6039 2002 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2477.6039 Her- 2477.9039 2003 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2477.9039 (pause 0.43) 2478.3336 2004 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2478.3336 her mommy, you knew her mom cause she was our- one of our band moms. 2481.5093 2005 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2481.5093 (pause 0.49) 2482.0018 2006 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2482.0018 Her mom was great. Molly was great. 2483.1963 2007 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2483.1963 (pause 0.54) 2483.7341 2008 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2483.7341 She- 2484.0228 2009 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2484.0228 (pause 0.39) 2484.4128 2010 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2484.4128 I was always welcome at her house. 2485.9356 2011 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2485.9356 (pause 0.58) 2486.5187 2012 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2486.5187 Sleepovers, 2487.8037 2013 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2487.8037 (pause 0.29) 2488.0925 2014 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2488.0925 ooh- 2489.0774 2015 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2489.0774 (pause 0.41) 2489.4906 2016 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2489.4906 I mean we'd- 2489.8699 2017 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2489.8699 (pause 0.82) 2490.6902 2018 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2490.6902 I was at her house a lot. 2491.8592 2019 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2491.8592 (pause 0.83) 2492.6885 2020 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2492.6885 And there was one day, 2493.4980 2021 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2493.4980 (pause 0.70) 2494.2000 2022 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2494.2000 unexpectedly, her dad was coming over. 2497.0299 2023 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2497.0299 (pause 1.99) 2499.0225 2024 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2499.0225 I didn't think anything of it, 2500.4321 2025 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2500.4321 (pause 0.46) 2500.8963 2026 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2500.8963 but 2501.1567 2027 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2501.1567 (pause 0.20) 2501.3548 2028 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2501.3548 I had to leave. 2502.2096 2029 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2502.2096 (pause 0.55) 2502.7582 2030 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2502.7582 Because I couldn't be there 2504.3602 2031 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2504.3602 (pause 0.32) 2504.6829 2032 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2504.6829 when he got there, because I was a- 2506.2226 2033 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2506.2226 (pause 0.28) 2506.5057 2034 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2506.5057 a Black girl in- 2507.8869 2035 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2507.8869 (pause 0.73) 2508.6172 2036 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2508.6172 their house. 2509.3356 2037 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2509.3356 (pause 0.65) 2509.9809 2038 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2509.9809 I had no idea 2510.8753 2039 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2510.8753 (pause 0.68) 2511.5546 2040 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2511.5546 that 2511.8830 2041 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2511.8830 (pause 1.25) 2513.1283 2042 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2513.1283 it was like that. 2513.9718 2043 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2513.9718 (pause 1.26) 2515.2337 2044 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2515.2337 And 2515.6526 2045 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2515.6526 (pause 0.67) 2516.3262 2046 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2516.3262 her being concerned about 2517.8603 2047 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2517.8603 (pause 0.27) 2518.1320 2048 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2518.1320 me being seen in her car. Not cause she cared, but because her dad had paid for the car 2523.0112 2049 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2523.0112 (pause 0.77) 2523.7811 2050 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2523.7811 and she didn't wanna get in trouble 2525.2189 2051 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2525.2189 (pause 0.37) 2525.5925 2052 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2525.5925 by having a Black person in the car 2527.0945 2053 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2527.0945 (pause 0.82) 2527.9130 2054 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2527.9130 when 2528.4111 2055 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2528.4111 (pause 0.51) 2528.9206 2056 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2528.9206 he paid for the car. 2529.8490 2057 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2529.8490 (pause 4.66) 2534.5130 2058 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2534.5130 I think a lot of Black people have that, sort of, that moment you realize you were Black kind of thing. 2539.6639 2059 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2539.6639 (pause 1.03) 2540.6942 2060 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2540.6942 That happened a long time before, but 2542.6359 2061 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2542.6359 (pause 1.21) 2543.8473 2062 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2543.8473 i- at that stage of life, 2546.1904 2063 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2546.1904 (pause 0.61) 2546.7961 2064 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2546.7961 and having had 2547.7018 2065 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2547.7018 (pause 0.30) 2548.0018 2066 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2548.0018 such a diverse set of friends, 2549.8246 2067 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2549.8246 (pause 2.08) 2551.9017 2068 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2551.9017 yep, still the deep South. Yep, still those moments when you realize 2556.0794 2069 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2556.0794 (pause 1.48) 2557.5563 2070 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2557.5563 I'm a Black person. And I get reminded of that 2559.8320 2071 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2559.8320 (pause 0.58) 2560.4151 2072 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2560.4151 when it was so close to home with one of my closest friends, 2564.3715 2073 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2564.3715 (pause 3.57) 2567.9435 2074 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2567.9435 that hurt. 2568.5322 2075 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2568.5322 (pause 0.66) 2569.1940 2076 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2569.1940 And it- 2569.5111 2077 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2569.5111 (pause 0.22) 2569.7262 2078 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2569.7262 I wasn't upset with /RD-NAME-4/. I wasn't upset with her mom. I wasn't upset 2573.4567 2079 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2573.4567 (pause 0.74) 2574.1926 2080 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2574.1926 at them at all. I was jus- upset about 2576.8640 2081 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2576.8640 (pause 0.98) 2577.8490 2082 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2577.8490 not being able to 2579.3095 2083 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2579.3095 (pause 0.42) 2579.7284 2084 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2579.7284 do anything about it. 2580.6964 2085 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2580.6964 (pause 0.53) 2581.2280 2086 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2581.2280 I was upset that 2582.4847 2087 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2582.4847 (pause 3.89) 2586.3737 2088 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2586.3737 this 2586.8662 2089 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2586.8662 (pause 0.17) 2587.0412 2090 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2587.0412 person who I have 2588.5470 2091 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2588.5470 (pause 1.34) 2589.8830 2092 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2589.8830 loved for 2590.9925 2093 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2590.9925 (pause 0.40) 2591.3944 2094 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2591.3944 you know, as long as I had, 2592.6794 2095 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2592.6794 (pause 0.89) 2593.5733 2096 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2593.5733 there was this 2594.5017 2097 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2594.5017 (pause 2.08) 2596.5792 2098 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2596.5792 cloud that she had been managing. That I didn't even know about. 2600.4791 2099 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2600.4791 (pause 0.77) 2601.2489 2100 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2601.2489 And it was 2602.1094 2101 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2602.1094 (pause 1.55) 2603.6548 2102 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2603.6548 it was my fault. 2604.6624 2103 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2604.6624 (pause 0.17) 2604.8374 2104 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2604.8374 It felt like, it's my fault that she's worried about this. It's my fault that she's scared about this. 2610.6228 2105 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2610.6228 (pause 1.34) 2611.9583 2106 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2611.9583 And that 2612.3206 2107 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2612.3206 (pause 1.99) 2614.3132 2108 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2614.3132 was a realization for me at that age that 2617.5167 2109 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2617.5167 (pause 1.63) 2619.1438 2110 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2619.1438 you have to separate 2620.3641 2111 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2620.3641 (pause 1.32) 2621.6831 2112 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2621.6831 people's actions. 2622.6732 2113 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2622.6732 (pause 0.86) 2623.5337 2114 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2623.5337 I didn't want it to impact my relationship with her. 2626.1943 2115 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2626.1943 (pause 1.43) 2627.6245 2116 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2627.6245 But you also 2628.6681 2117 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2628.6681 (pause 1.39) 2630.0545 2118 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2630.0545 have to stand up for 2631.5660 2119 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2631.5660 (pause 1.38) 2632.9472 2120 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2632.9472 what you believe in too. 2634.0001 2121 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2634.0001 (pause 1.43) 2635.4318 2122 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2635.4318 And 2636.0262 2123 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2636.0262 (pause 0.45) 2636.4791 2124 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2636.4791 you know, 2636.9433 2125 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2636.9433 (pause 0.53) 2637.4754 2126 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2637.4754 fast forward- 2638.1773 2127 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2638.1773 (pause 0.21) 2638.3868 2128 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2638.3868 fast forwarding many years. You know she's married to a black man now and has five kids and 2643.3282 2129 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2643.3282 (pause 0.80) 2644.1320 2130 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2644.1320 is happily married to her husband. 2646.3964 2131 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2646.3964 (pause 2.63) 2649.0225 2132 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2649.0225 I don't know how that all- 2650.5226 2133 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2650.5226 (pause 0.55) 2651.0774 2134 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2651.0774 all the details of how that transpired. I do know he wasn't happy about it. 2654.4564 2135 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2654.4564 (pause 0.33) 2654.7848 2136 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2654.7848 Her dad wasn't happy about it when he first found out. 2656.7038 2137 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2656.7038 (pause 1.78) 2658.4864 2138 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2658.4864 But on her wedding day, 2659.8224 2139 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2659.8224 (pause 1.44) 2661.2603 2140 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2661.2603 I was in her wedding. 2662.0981 2141 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2662.0981 (pause 0.44) 2662.5396 2142 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2662.5396 And 2663.0378 2143 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2663.0378 (pause 0.61) 2663.6491 2144 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2663.6491 we were taking a- a picture, 2665.2620 2145 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2665.2620 (pause 0.55) 2665.8111 2146 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2665.8111 it was after the reception. And it was, a- a group of the bridesmaids and the 2670.2209 2147 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2670.2209 (pause 0.69) 2670.9110 2148 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2670.9110 groomsmen and- and family and some friends. It was- it was a big picture. 2674.6472 2149 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2674.6472 (pause 0.62) 2675.2642 2150 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2675.2642 And we took the picture and I was kind of in the front with /RD-NAME-4/. 2677.8221 2151 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2677.8221 (pause 0.20) 2678.0258 2152 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2678.0258 There were some people behind us, including 2679.8150 2153 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2679.8150 (pause 0.38) 2680.2000 2154 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2680.2000 her husband and- and her dad. 2681.6265 2155 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2681.6265 (pause 0.59) 2682.2152 2156 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2682.2152 I didn't know this at the time, 2683.3469 2157 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2683.3469 (pause 0.32) 2683.6639 2158 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2683.6639 Olivia and I went back and we were watching the video that was put together of the wedding, 2686.7604 2159 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2686.7604 (pause 0.86) 2687.6208 2160 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2687.6208 and the very last shot, is us all grouping together, to take this picture, 2691.6339 2161 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2691.6339 (pause 0.64) 2692.2736 2162 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2692.2736 it- it's almost 2693.2585 2163 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2693.2585 (pause 0.83) 2694.0907 2164 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2694.0907 surreal kind of thing. Everybody's laughing, we're all having a good time. And the very last shot is 2698.6528 2165 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2698.6528 (pause 1.14) 2699.7902 2166 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2699.7902 her husband and her dad, 2701.1488 2167 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2701.1488 (pause 0.47) 2701.6186 2168 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2701.6186 doing a high five, back behind us. 2703.6339 2169 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2703.6339 (pause 0.51) 2704.1434 2170 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2704.1434 We didn't know it happened, we didn't know it was there 2705.9626 2171 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2705.9626 (pause 0.28) 2706.2379 2172 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2706.2379 so now we're both like, in tears. 2707.9413 2173 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2707.9413 (pause 0.63) 2708.5696 2174 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2708.5696 Because that moment, represented so much more than just, oh we're all having a good time any other circumstance, anybody else, 2714.6998 2175 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2714.6998 (pause 0.69) 2715.3905 2176 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2715.3905 I don't even think I would've given it a second thought, I wouldn't have given it a second look. 2718.5204 2177 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2718.5204 (pause 0.57) 2719.0865 2178 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2719.0865 But that 2719.4601 2179 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2719.4601 (pause 0.23) 2719.6865 2180 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2719.6865 final moment of that video 2721.2942 2181 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2721.2942 (pause 0.39) 2721.6848 2182 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2721.6848 was 2721.9282 2183 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2721.9282 (pause 0.29) 2722.2169 2184 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2722.2169 this moment where- 2723.4227 2185 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2723.4227 (pause 1.82) 2725.2450 2186 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2725.2450 Coming from being 2726.5583 2187 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2726.5583 (pause 0.22) 2726.7734 2188 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2726.7734 this teenager in high school who had to leave her best friend's house because 2730.3285 2189 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2730.3285 (pause 0.98) 2731.3129 2190 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2731.3129 her best friend's dad was such a racist they didn't wanna see me 2733.8830 2191 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2733.8830 (pause 0.82) 2734.7038 2192 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2734.7038 get hurt by him, 2735.7793 2193 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2735.7793 (pause 0.55) 2736.3279 2194 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2736.3279 to 2736.9620 2195 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2736.9620 (pause 0.66) 2737.6186 2196 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2737.6186 him giving 2738.3998 2197 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2738.3998 (pause 0.53) 2738.9319 2198 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2738.9319 her Black husband a high five behind her head that she didn't even know about, 2742.3681 2199 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2742.3681 (pause 0.81) 2743.1771 2200 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2743.1771 and really welcoming him into his family, 2745.2263 2201 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2745.2263 (pause 2.16) 2747.3831 2202 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2747.3831 it helped me heal from that situation 2749.2676 2203 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2749.2676 (pause 1.85) 2751.1187 2204 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2751.1187 as I- I wondered 2752.4604 2205 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2752.4604 (pause 0.40) 2752.8566 2206 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2752.8566 how it was all gonna pan out. Here she is marrying him. Is he really gonna accept him? Is he really 2757.9849 2207 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2757.9849 (pause 0.53) 2758.5170 2208 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2758.5170 going to support her marriage? And 2760.0397 2209 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2760.0397 (pause 0.40) 2760.4412 2210 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2760.4412 I knew Olivia wanted to have kids. Is he gonna 2762.7791 2211 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2762.7791 (pause 0.29) 2763.0735 2212 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2763.0735 love his grandkids or not? 2764.7377 2213 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2764.7377 (pause 1.12) 2765.8586 2214 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2765.8586 And 2766.1473 2215 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2766.1473 (pause 0.45) 2766.5940 2216 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2766.5940 both of us, I think realized at that moment that no, really, it's okay. 2770.1021 2217 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2770.1021 (pause 0.28) 2770.3868 2218 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2770.3868 He's- 2770.7661 2219 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2770.7661 (pause 1.38) 2772.1473 2220 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2772.1473 Nobody's perfect. 2773.3639 2221 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2773.3639 (pause 0.37) 2773.7318 2222 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2773.7318 But he learned from that moment. And 2775.8943 2223 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2775.8943 (pause 0.90) 2776.7944 2224 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2776.7944 has been able to 2778.0171 2225 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2778.0171 (pause 1.38) 2779.3922 2226 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2779.3922 see the love between the two of them, to accept that. 2782.6528 2227 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2782.6528 (pause 0.79) 2783.4454 2228 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2783.4454 just because his skin color is different, doesn't mean their love isn't real. 2786.8866 2229 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2786.8866 (pause 1.26) 2788.1490 2230 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2788.1490 So that- I think racism and 2790.1247 2231 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2790.1247 (pause 0.36) 2790.4864 2232 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2790.4864 growing up in the deep South, 2792.4677 2233 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2792.4677 (pause 0.83) 2793.2942 2234 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2793.2942 there are times when 2794.4321 2235 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2794.4321 (pause 1.14) 2795.5699 2236 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2795.5699 living on the East Side and 2797.3129 2237 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2797.3129 (pause 1.68) 2798.9942 2238 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2798.9942 going to Valdosta where- 2800.3755 2239 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2800.3755 (pause 0.71) 2801.0887 2240 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2801.0887 Yeah, I mean we had- we had a mixed- at that time, we had a mixed population of 2804.9772 2241 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2804.9772 (pause 1.46) 2806.4377 2242 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2806.4377 folks at our school, but 2807.7114 2243 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2807.7114 (pause 0.60) 2808.3110 2244 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2808.3110 we- we were able to hang out with a fair amount of Black people, fair amount of white people. 2812.3075 2245 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2812.3075 (pause 2.28) 2814.5883 2246 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2814.5883 Always knowing that there's that opportunity, 2817.3169 2247 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2817.3169 (pause 0.44) 2817.7584 2248 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2817.7584 for it to happen. 2818.6528 2249 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2818.6528 (pause 0.68) 2819.3378 2250 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2819.3378 I think it put me on guard more 2820.7983 2251 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2820.7983 (pause 1.18) 2821.9752 2252 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2821.9752 than 2822.5244 2253 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2822.5244 (pause 1.07) 2823.5943 2254 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2823.5943 before that experience. Yeah I knew, 2825.8529 2255 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2825.8529 (pause 1.02) 2826.8714 2256 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2826.8714 but that experience really put me on guard. 2829.1301 2257 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2829.1301 (pause 1.41) 2830.5396 2258 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2830.5396 Going to the wedding and seeing that, 2832.6568 2259 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2832.6568 (pause 1.41) 2834.0658 2260 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2834.0658 gave me hope that 2835.0508 2261 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2835.0508 (pause 2.38) 2837.4284 2262 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2837.4284 you make choices, 2838.4247 2263 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2838.4247 (pause 1.01) 2839.4375 2264 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2839.4375 and you can make a choice to change. You can make a choice to accept. You can make a choice to 2844.3964 2265 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2844.3964 (pause 1.31) 2845.7092 2266 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2845.7092 educate yourself. 2846.7564 2267 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2846.7564 (pause 0.46) 2847.2206 2268 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2847.2206 And understand that 2848.2113 2269 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2848.2113 (pause 1.30) 2849.5133 2270 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2849.5133 what you may have thought was true, 2851.4318 2271 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2851.4318 (pause 1.39) 2852.8244 2272 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2852.8244 maybe isn't. 2853.4244 2273 VLD_int_01 2856.8714 So, 2857.5394 2274 VLD_int_01 2857.5394 (pause 2.02) 2859.5603 2275 VLD_int_01 2859.5603 then you went to college, 2860.8575 2276 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2861.0604 Mm-hm. 2861.4906 2277 VLD_int_01 2862.1241 um, 2862.8148 2278 VLD_int_01 2862.8148 (pause 1.09) 2863.9017 2279 VLD_int_01 2863.9017 and then from college you kind of, moved into 2866.8793 2280 VLD_int_01 2866.8793 (pause 0.45) 2867.3265 2281 VLD_int_01 2867.3265 Corporate America. 2868.2209 2282 VLD_int_01 2868.2209 (pause 0.25) 2868.4751 2283 VLD_int_01 2868.4751 So kind of talk a little bit about- 2869.8337 2284 VLD_int_01 2869.8337 (pause 0.48) 2870.3092 2285 VLD_int_01 2870.3092 about college and kind of how 2872.3075 2286 VLD_int_01 2872.3075 (pause 0.56) 2872.8679 2287 VLD_int_01 2872.8679 that was a very 2873.6718 2288 VLD_int_01 2873.6718 (pause 0.25) 2873.9209 2289 VLD_int_01 2873.9209 different experience from 2875.7771 2290 VLD_int_01 2875.7771 (pause 2.24) 2878.0188 2291 VLD_int_01 2878.0188 Valdosta. And like leaving Valdosta. And 2880.1586 2292 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2884.7208 Like I said, college I wouldn't do again. 2886.0341 2293 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2886.0341 (pause 0.21) 2886.2459 2294 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2886.2459 2886.8661 2295 VLD_int_01 2887.2337 So- 2887.5167 2296 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2887.6186 Would not do that again. 2888.3375 2297 VLD_int_01 2888.3828 Note, college is- is over. Not [redoing it.] 2891.5303 2298 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2890.7604 [One and done.] 2891.4793 2299 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2893.5507 I am 2894.1677 2300 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2894.1677 (pause 0.66) 2894.8300 2301 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2894.8300 happy I went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 2896.4547 2302 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2896.4547 (pause 0.38) 2896.8340 2303 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2896.8340 for the education. 2897.9039 2304 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2897.9039 (pause 0.61) 2898.5147 2305 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2898.5147 I had a 2898.9733 2306 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2898.9733 (pause 1.13) 2900.0998 2307 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2900.0998 very 2900.5527 2308 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2900.5527 (pause 2.62) 2903.1736 2309 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2903.1736 rigorous 2904.2096 2310 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2904.2096 (pause 0.37) 2904.5770 2311 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2904.5770 academic 2905.4601 2312 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2905.4601 (pause 0.45) 2905.9130 2313 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2905.9130 experience 2906.9772 2314 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2906.9772 (pause 1.13) 2908.1037 2315 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2908.1037 at /RD-SCHOOL-3/ and I appreciate that. Great professors, 2910.9172 2316 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2910.9172 (pause 0.98) 2911.8960 2317 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2911.8960 It was a great learning environment actually. It really was. 2914.4038 2318 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2914.4038 (pause 0.27) 2914.6755 2319 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2914.6755 Um, 2915.1114 2320 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2915.1114 (pause 1.10) 2916.2152 2321 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2916.2152 so for the academic experience, 2918.2753 2322 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2918.2753 (pause 0.63) 2918.9036 2323 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2918.9036 truly appreciate that. 2920.0698 2324 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2920.0698 (pause 1.02) 2921.0887 2325 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2921.0887 The social experience not so much. 2923.2167 2326 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2923.2167 (pause 0.90) 2924.1168 2327 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2924.1168 And, um, 2924.7961 2328 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2924.7961 (pause 0.42) 2925.2206 2329 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2925.2206 you- 2925.4018 2330 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2925.4018 (pause 0.22) 2925.6169 2331 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2925.6169 I w- I think I would have thought, after having the experiences I had in Valdosta, that I 2929.6413 2332 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2929.6413 (pause 1.85) 2931.4924 2333 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2931.4924 understood 2932.7208 2334 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2932.7208 (pause 1.63) 2934.3506 2335 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2934.3506 racism. And I understood 2936.0149 2336 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2936.0149 (pause 1.57) 2937.5886 2337 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2937.5886 how that could manifest itself in how people treat you. 2940.8040 2338 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2940.8040 (pause 1.31) 2942.1111 2339 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2942.1111 What I was not prepared for I think as much was classism. 2944.9019 2340 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2944.9019 (pause 1.01) 2945.9147 2341 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2945.9147 And going to a 2947.3412 2342 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2947.3412 (pause 0.35) 2947.6865 2343 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2947.6865 liberal arts school where, you know 2950.3585 2344 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2950.3585 (pause 0.34) 2950.6981 2345 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2950.6981 tuition was high. And 2952.2379 2346 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2952.2379 (pause 0.74) 2952.9733 2347 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2952.9733 most of the kids there were either paying for it you know, themselves or 2957.2019 2348 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2957.2019 (pause 0.60) 2957.8020 2349 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2957.8020 you know, their parents 2958.6851 2350 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2958.6851 (pause 0.93) 2959.6186 2351 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2959.6186 funding their education. 2961.5490 2352 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2961.5490 (pause 1.33) 2962.8835 2353 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2962.8835 2962.9930 2354 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2962.9930 (pause 0.70) 2963.6888 2355 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2963.6888 Was very different from me. 2964.8096 2356 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2964.8096 (pause 1.11) 2965.9186 2357 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2965.9186 And it became very clear that class mattered. In a way that I didn't experience at Valdosta. 2971.3526 2358 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2971.3526 (pause 0.73) 2972.0828 2359 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2972.0828 I- I just hadn't experienced that level of classism. So 2975.4963 2360 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2975.4963 (pause 0.85) 2976.3449 2361 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2976.3449 going to that school, 2978.0149 2362 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2978.0149 (pause 0.65) 2978.6659 2363 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2978.6659 while- again, I wouldn't do it again, 2980.4887 2364 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2980.4887 (pause 0.53) 2981.0151 2365 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2981.0151 I learned a lot. 2981.7680 2366 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2981.7680 (pause 0.87) 2982.6393 2367 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2982.6393 And I think it actually prepared me in a lot of ways for Corporate America. 2985.3848 2368 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2985.3848 (pause 1.45) 2986.8340 2369 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2986.8340 And figuring out how to 2988.2379 2370 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2988.2379 (pause 0.79) 2989.0242 2371 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2989.0242 navigate that. Figuring out how to navigate an environment that I'm not 2992.5792 2372 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2992.5792 (pause 0.60) 2993.1793 2373 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2993.1793 from. 2993.7907 2374 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2993.7907 (pause 0.72) 2994.5091 2375 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2994.5091 My parents aren't 2995.3809 2376 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2995.3809 (pause 0.50) 2995.8847 2377 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2995.8847 corporate, 2996.2979 2378 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2996.2979 (pause 0.83) 2997.1301 2379 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2997.1301 uh, you know, 2997.9056 2380 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2997.9056 (pause 1.60) 2999.5020 2381 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 2999.5020 they certainly had 3000.6681 2382 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3000.6681 (pause 0.28) 3000.9506 2383 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3000.9506 decent jobs, but not to the level of 3004.3302 2384 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3004.3302 (pause 0.25) 3004.5849 2385 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3004.5849 a corporate executive, or 3006.3001 2386 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3006.3001 (pause 0.70) 3006.9959 2387 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3006.9959 even 3007.5280 2388 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3007.5280 (pause 1.04) 3008.5696 2389 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3008.5696 you know, senior management in a- in a major corporation. So, 3012.1699 2390 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3012.1699 (pause 1.41) 3013.5846 2391 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3013.5846 I didn't have that background. I didn't have that 3015.7245 2392 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3015.7245 (pause 0.79) 3016.5170 2393 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3016.5170 built in support system. 3018.1699 2394 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3018.1699 (pause 0.54) 3018.7129 2395 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3018.7129 And I think 3019.2337 2396 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3019.2337 (pause 0.37) 3019.6016 2397 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3019.6016 /RD-SCHOOL-5/ 3020.5864 2398 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3020.5864 (pause 0.23) 3020.8198 2399 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3020.8198 gave me that in a lot of ways. 3022.4887 2400 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3022.4887 (pause 0.33) 3022.8170 2401 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3022.8170 Because 3023.4454 2402 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3023.4454 (pause 2.17) 3025.6186 2403 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3025.6186 those kids could be brutal. 3026.9319 2404 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3026.9319 (pause 1.86) 3028.7944 2405 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3028.7944 They had 3029.3661 2406 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3029.3661 (pause 0.60) 3029.9656 2407 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3029.9656 different expectations than I had. They've 3032.0262 2408 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3032.0262 (pause 0.50) 3032.5244 2409 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3032.5244 felt very much so entitled to things that I didn't, 3035.0458 2410 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3035.0458 (pause 1.36) 3036.4062 2411 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3036.4062 that I felt like I needed to work for, that they felt like they should just 3039.3671 2412 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3039.3671 (pause 0.14) 3039.5117 2413 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3039.5117 have by right. 3040.4396 2414 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3040.4396 (pause 1.38) 3041.8187 2415 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3041.8187 So, 3042.1591 2416 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3042.1591 (pause 0.27) 3042.4295 2417 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3042.4295 college was 3043.4553 2418 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3043.4553 (pause 0.92) 3044.3786 2419 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3044.3786 a new kind of awakening. It was almost this- 3046.8266 2420 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3046.8266 (pause 2.27) 3049.0963 2421 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3049.0963 realizing when I went to college, that yeah I had more to learn, 3052.0339 2422 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3052.0339 (pause 1.04) 3053.0691 2423 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3053.0691 college 3053.5727 2424 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3053.5727 (pause 0.35) 3053.9212 2425 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3053.9212 I felt like, taught me just how much I didn't know. 3056.3833 2426 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3056.3833 (pause 0.74) 3057.1200 2427 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3057.1200 And [how] much m- 3057.9080 2428 VLD_int_01 3057.3298 [Mm.] 3057.5630 2429 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3058.1132 m- 3058.2391 2430 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3058.2391 (pause 1.10) 3059.3395 2431 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3059.3395 more I needed to 3061.2175 2432 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3061.2175 (pause 0.31) 3061.5253 2433 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3061.5253 experience. 3062.6304 2434 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3062.6304 (pause 1.08) 3063.7122 2435 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3063.7122 So /RD-SCHOOL-5/ is a 3065.3908 2436 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3065.3908 (pause 0.57) 3065.9585 2437 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3065.9585 small small small school. And- and I knew that going in. And I appreciated that. I wanted small class sizes. I wanted 3072.4493 2438 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3072.4493 (pause 1.31) 3073.7584 2439 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3073.7584 to engage. And it was essentially the same size as 3076.7287 2440 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3076.7287 (pause 0.87) 3077.5960 2441 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3077.5960 our high school, so. 3078.6405 2442 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3078.6405 (pause 0.69) 3079.3341 2443 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3079.3341 I felt comfortable 3080.6863 2444 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3080.6863 (pause 0.35) 3081.0407 2445 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3081.0407 there. 3081.4744 2446 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3081.4744 (pause 0.28) 3081.7495 2447 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3081.7495 And in my mind it was going to be a similar experience. 3084.3187 2448 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3084.3187 (pause 0.37) 3084.6841 2449 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3084.6841 In reality it wasn't. 3085.8358 2450 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3085.8358 (pause 0.80) 3086.6379 2451 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3086.6379 Still appreciate the small class size, did not appreciate 3088.9273 2452 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3088.9273 (pause 0.61) 3089.5382 2453 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3089.5382 just how divided the school was. 3091.6726 2454 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3091.6726 (pause 0.91) 3092.5819 2455 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3092.5819 Um, how 3093.8689 2456 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3093.8689 (pause 0.70) 3094.5730 2457 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3094.5730 the haves and the have nots were very clear. 3096.6713 2458 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3096.6713 (pause 1.04) 3097.7146 2459 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3097.7146 And 3098.1809 2460 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3098.1809 (pause 1.44) 3099.6171 2461 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3099.6171 all the way to the experience of being asked by another white student, 3103.2017 2462 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3103.2017 (pause 1.90) 3105.1041 2463 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3105.1041 how it felt knowing that the only reason I was at the school, was because I was black. 3109.1982 2464 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3109.1982 (pause 0.18) 3109.3742 2465 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3109.3742 And so they needed to meet 3110.5959 2466 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3110.5959 (pause 0.30) 3110.8990 2467 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3110.8990 basically certain quotas and 3112.4144 2468 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3112.4144 (pause 0.95) 3113.3656 2469 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3113.3656 I didn't earn my right to be there. I wasn't 3115.3101 2470 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3115.3101 (pause 0.79) 3116.0969 2471 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3116.0969 inherently smart enough, or 3117.9201 2472 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3117.9201 (pause 0.39) 3118.3072 2473 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3118.3072 capable of actually 3119.7340 2474 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3119.7340 (pause 0.90) 3120.6328 2475 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3120.6328 achieving success at the school. I was simply there because 3123.5751 2476 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3123.5751 (pause 0.39) 3123.9621 2477 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3123.9621 of a diversity initiative. 3125.5428 2478 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3125.5428 (pause 2.03) 3127.5700 2479 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3127.5700 I mean I- I had never been- 3129.1508 2480 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3129.1508 (pause 2.84) 3131.9858 2481 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3131.9858 I had never been 3133.0163 2482 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3133.0163 (pause 1.36) 3134.3721 2483 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3134.3721 treated that way, 3135.7476 2484 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3135.7476 (pause 0.99) 3136.7361 2485 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3136.7361 middle school, high school 3137.9858 2486 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3137.9858 (pause 0.92) 3138.9032 2487 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3138.9032 cause nobody ever questioned whether, or not I was intelligent, 3141.2254 2488 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3141.2254 (pause 0.62) 3141.8502 2489 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3141.8502 at least not to my face. 3143.0159 2490 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3143.0159 (pause 0.44) 3143.4589 2491 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3143.4589 Or whether I was capable, 3144.7552 2492 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3144.7552 (pause 0.36) 3145.1131 2493 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3145.1131 I'd always felt like people acknowledged me as being 3147.8968 2494 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3147.8968 (pause 0.22) 3148.1206 2495 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3148.1206 smart. 3148.6056 2496 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3148.6056 (pause 0.34) 3148.9460 2497 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3148.9460 And 3149.3377 2498 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3149.3377 (pause 0.54) 3149.8786 2499 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3149.8786 intelligent. And 3151.0349 2500 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3151.0349 (pause 0.72) 3151.7519 2501 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3151.7519 capable. 3152.4606 2502 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3152.4606 (pause 0.28) 3152.7404 2503 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3152.7404 But for the first time, I literally was being looked at as somebody who was here, 3156.4148 2504 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3156.4148 (pause 2.15) 3158.5679 2505 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3158.5679 as a quota. 3159.3466 2506 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3159.3466 (pause 1.27) 3160.6196 2507 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3160.6196 So it taught me a lot about that and 3162.3682 2508 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3162.3682 (pause 0.87) 3163.2343 2509 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3163.2343 going through that experience, 3166.2186 2510 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3166.2186 (pause 0.44) 3166.6615 2511 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3166.6615 prepared me a lot for getting into Corporate America, because now, 3169.6411 2512 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3169.6411 (pause 1.70) 3171.3419 2513 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3171.3419 I feel much more in tune to when those situations happen, when people are looking at me 3175.8778 2514 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3175.8778 (pause 0.81) 3176.6891 2515 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3176.6891 as less than capable. 3177.8175 2516 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3177.8175 (pause 0.61) 3178.4237 2517 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3178.4237 And what I need to do in that situation. And how do you navigate when 3181.6038 2518 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3181.6038 (pause 0.77) 3182.3767 2519 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3182.3767 3182.7311 2520 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3182.7311 (pause 1.70) 3184.4330 2521 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3184.4330 you're- 3184.7641 2522 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3184.7641 (pause 0.44) 3185.2071 2523 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3185.2071 The person looking at you isn't al- 3187.1515 2524 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3187.1515 (pause 0.43) 3187.5840 2525 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3187.5840 isn't seeing you as standing on your own merits. 3189.7802 2526 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3189.7802 (pause 0.59) 3190.3724 2527 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3190.3724 So we've- 3191.1092 2528 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3191.1092 (pause 1.72) 3192.8333 2529 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3192.8333 I've had several situations where that has happened in Corporate America. And it's been- 3196.8993 2530 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3196.8993 (pause 1.32) 3198.2178 2531 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3198.2178 I flash back to those times when I was in school and say, you know what? It's okay. 3201.8082 2532 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3201.8082 (pause 0.82) 3202.6242 2533 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3202.6242 I got this. 3203.3423 2534 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3203.3423 (pause 0.91) 3204.2562 2535 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3204.2562 Navigate through that and find a way for myself 3206.7357 2536 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3206.7357 (pause 0.75) 3207.4818 2537 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3207.4818 to 3208.1160 2538 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3208.1160 (pause 1.24) 3209.3516 2539 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3209.3516 reassert that, no, I am here. I'm here for a reason. I have the ability to be successful. I 3214.0693 2540 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3214.0693 (pause 0.76) 3214.8340 2541 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3214.8340 have every quality that it takes to be 3217.4266 2542 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3217.4266 (pause 0.86) 3218.2834 2543 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3218.2834 where I am in my career, 3219.9201 2544 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3219.9201 (pause 1.13) 3221.0485 2545 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3221.0485 but I don't think I would've had that experience, had I not been at a place like /RD-SCHOOL-5/. 3224.8197 2546 VLD_int_01 3225.5797 Hm. 3225.7895 2547 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3226.1859 Very different. 3226.7594 2548 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3226.7594 (pause 1.09) 3227.8505 2549 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3227.8505 I think it's a 3228.5220 2550 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3228.5220 (pause 1.68) 3230.2042 2551 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3230.2042 random kind of 3231.1507 2552 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3231.1507 (pause 0.78) 3231.9341 2553 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3231.9341 memory I have. We had 3233.3796 2554 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3233.3796 (pause 1.73) 3235.1084 2555 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3235.1084 a mock convention 3236.1808 2556 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3236.1808 (pause 0.50) 3236.6798 2557 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3236.6798 just once every four years, 3238.3444 2558 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3238.3444 (pause 0.47) 3238.8154 2559 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3238.8154 during the presidential election year. 3240.8484 2560 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3240.8484 (pause 0.76) 3241.6120 2561 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3241.6120 And it's always for the party that's out of office. 3243.7243 2562 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3243.7243 (pause 1.04) 3244.7641 2563 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3244.7641 So the year that 3245.9998 2564 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3245.9998 (pause 0.17) 3246.1676 2565 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3246.1676 we were in school, 3247.6551 2566 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3247.6551 (pause 1.00) 3248.6518 2567 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3248.6518 it woulda been Democratic. 3249.7056 2568 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3249.7056 (pause 0.48) 3250.1859 2569 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3250.1859 So we had a Democratic 3251.0625 2570 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3251.0625 (pause 0.18) 3251.2397 2571 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3251.2397 convention, mock convention where we 3253.0955 2572 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3253.0955 (pause 0.56) 3253.6539 2573 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3253.6539 go through all that process of 3255.5377 2574 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3255.5377 (pause 0.77) 3256.3118 2575 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3256.3118 you know, figuring out for each delegation 3258.2515 2576 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3258.2515 (pause 0.27) 3258.5208 2577 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3258.5208 what the vote was gonna be. So who the 3261.5750 2578 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3261.5750 (pause 0.54) 3262.1113 2579 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3262.1113 potential party's nominee would be for president. 3264.7038 2580 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3264.7038 (pause 0.94) 3265.6446 2581 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3265.6446 And so far the school has 3267.4118 2582 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3267.4118 (pause 0.19) 3267.6030 2583 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3267.6030 some ridiculous ninety something percent 3269.5428 2584 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3269.5428 (pause 0.82) 3270.3588 2585 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3270.3588 accuracy rate of 3271.3613 2586 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3271.3613 (pause 0.21) 3271.5747 2587 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3271.5747 predicting who the presidential nominee will be. 3273.9994 2588 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3273.9994 (pause 0.52) 3274.5169 2589 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3274.5169 They even got it right 3275.3516 2590 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3275.3516 (pause 1.48) 3276.8286 2591 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3276.8286 with number forty-five. 3277.6959 2592 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3277.6959 (pause 0.94) 3278.6331 2593 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3278.6331 They chose the p- 3279.6030 2594 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3279.6030 (pause 0.25) 3279.8548 2595 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3279.8548 the correct 3280.6335 2596 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3280.6335 (pause 1.26) 3281.8972 2597 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3281.8972 eventual presidential nominee 3283.4033 2598 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3283.4033 (pause 1.65) 3285.0575 2599 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3285.0575 that year. 3285.8968 2600 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3285.8968 (pause 1.18) 3287.0718 2601 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3287.0718 Idaho 3287.6220 2602 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3287.6220 (pause 1.23) 3288.8472 2603 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3288.8472 delegation, 3289.6446 2604 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3289.6446 (pause 0.55) 3290.1995 2605 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3290.1995 every- every delegation does shirts. T-shirts. 3292.5356 2606 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3292.5356 (pause 1.03) 3293.5661 2607 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3293.5661 That year the Idaho delegation decided that they wanted to do 3296.7590 2608 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3296.7590 (pause 0.62) 3297.3792 2609 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3297.3792 a shirt 3297.8595 2610 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3297.8595 (pause 0.39) 3298.2512 2611 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3298.2512 of a caricature 3299.1977 2612 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3299.1977 (pause 0.80) 3299.9997 2613 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3299.9997 of a black woman. 3300.7225 2614 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3300.7225 (pause 2.04) 3302.7637 2615 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3302.7637 I dash 3303.5937 2616 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3303.5937 (pause 0.19) 3303.7802 2617 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3303.7802 duh 3304.2651 2618 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3304.2651 (pause 0.18) 3304.4423 2619 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3304.4423 dash ho 3305.1464 2620 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3305.1464 (pause 0.93) 3306.0790 2621 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3306.0790 And- 3306.3308 2622 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3306.3308 (pause 0.88) 3307.2063 2623 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3307.2063 thought that that was okay. 3308.7124 2624 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3308.7124 (pause 2.47) 3311.1837 2625 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3311.1837 The f- 3311.5801 2626 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3311.5801 (pause 0.24) 3311.8179 2627 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3311.8179 frustrating part, 3312.9277 2628 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3312.9277 (pause 0.65) 3313.5746 2629 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3313.5746 was not so much that they thought that the shirt was okay, but that we got no support 3317.0951 2630 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3317.0951 (pause 0.88) 3317.9718 2631 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3317.9718 from our administration 3319.0722 2632 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3319.0722 (pause 1.10) 3320.1762 2633 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3320.1762 to 3320.8383 2634 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3320.8383 (pause 0.39) 3321.2253 2635 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3321.2253 get them to get rid of the shirts, because they paid for them with their own money. 3324.0790 2636 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3324.0790 (pause 0.99) 3325.0710 2637 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3325.0710 So, 3325.5653 2638 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3325.5653 (pause 0.34) 3325.9057 2639 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3325.9057 it was okay 3326.5119 2640 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3326.5119 (pause 0.27) 3326.7823 2641 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3326.7823 for them to walk around campus 3328.0506 2642 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3328.0506 (pause 0.41) 3328.4563 2643 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3328.4563 with shirts 3329.0345 2644 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3329.0345 (pause 1.17) 3330.2049 2645 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3330.2049 of 3330.7598 2646 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3330.7598 (pause 0.47) 3331.2296 2647 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3331.2296 a- 3331.4161 2648 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3331.4161 (pause 0.36) 3331.7798 2649 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3331.7798 a black woman in caricature, 3333.2346 2650 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3333.2346 (pause 0.34) 3333.5704 2651 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3333.5704 calling her a ho. 3334.2884 2652 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3334.2884 (pause 3.91) 3338.1948 2653 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3338.1948 Frustrating to say the least. 3339.6356 2654 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3339.6356 (pause 10.29) 3349.9243 2655 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3349.9243 Yeah, kind of hard to 3350.7870 2656 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3350.7870 (pause 4.12) 3354.9090 2657 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3354.9090 express what that was like. 3356.6098 2658 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3356.6098 (pause 3.92) 3360.5301 2659 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3360.5301 By the end of the day, 3361.1363 2660 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3361.1363 (pause 0.33) 3361.4627 2661 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3361.4627 I'll say this, 3362.0969 2662 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3362.0969 (pause 0.75) 3362.8476 2663 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3362.8476 the school has changed a lot. 3363.9107 2664 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3363.9107 (pause 1.46) 3365.3749 2665 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3365.3749 I think society has forced that. 3366.7726 2666 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3366.7726 (pause 3.38) 3370.1532 2667 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3370.1532 Since I've graduated, obviously. 3371.8598 2668 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3371.8598 (pause 0.28) 3372.1349 2669 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3372.1349 Back in 3372.5406 2670 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3372.5406 (pause 0.35) 3372.8938 2671 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3372.8938 what? Two thousand five? That was our graduation year? Two thousand five? 3375.0294 2672 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3375.0294 (pause 0.82) 3375.8501 2673 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3375.8501 So twelve years later. 3376.6102 2674 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3376.6102 (pause 1.97) 3378.5814 2675 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3378.5814 Wow. 3379.0524 2676 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3379.0524 (pause 0.26) 3379.3088 2677 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3379.3088 Twelve years later. 3379.9523 2678 VLD_int_01 3380.0176 Have a seven year old. 3380.7087 2679 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3381.2673 Ooh. 3382.0226 2680 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3382.0226 (pause 0.66) 3382.6801 2681 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3382.6801 Um, 3383.2397 2682 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3383.2397 (pause 1.20) 3384.4369 2683 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3384.4369 A lot 3385.2809 2684 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3385.2809 (pause 0.21) 3385.4860 2685 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3385.4860 has changed in the world. 3386.7543 2686 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3386.7543 (pause 0.85) 3387.6076 2687 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3387.6076 Twelve years later, we've had a Black president since then. (laughing) 3390.0044 2688 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3390.0044 (pause 1.49) 3391.4953 2689 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3391.4953 Um, 3392.0456 2690 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3392.0456 (pause 0.48) 3392.5258 2691 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3392.5258 they've 3393.4631 2692 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3393.4631 (pause 0.41) 3393.8734 2693 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3393.8734 had to make changes too. 3394.9086 2694 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3394.9086 (pause 0.58) 3395.4868 2695 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3395.4868 And some reconciliation. 3396.8344 2696 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3396.8344 (pause 0.57) 3397.4021 2697 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3397.4021 And the school is named /RD-SCHOOL-5/. 3398.9175 2698 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3398.9175 (pause 1.46) 3400.3770 2699 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3400.3770 Two 3400.6708 2700 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3400.6708 (pause 0.43) 3401.0998 2701 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3401.0998 white slave owning men. 3402.1629 2702 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3402.1629 (pause 1.43) 3403.5886 2703 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3403.5886 One 3404.0036 2704 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3404.0036 (pause 0.21) 3404.2181 2705 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3404.2181 general for the confederacy. 3405.6123 2706 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3405.6123 (pause 1.70) 3407.3143 2707 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3407.3143 And I've been asked, well 3408.5453 2708 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3408.5453 (pause 0.64) 3409.1829 2709 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3409.1829 why'd you decide to go to that school? How could you go to that school? Kind of questions. 3412.2231 2710 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3412.2231 (pause 1.95) 3414.1769 2711 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3414.1769 And the end of the day, I don't think that we should 3416.5445 2712 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3416.5445 (pause 0.95) 3417.4957 2713 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3417.4957 forget the history of our country. The history of our country is what it is, 3421.4778 2714 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3421.4778 (pause 3.15) 3424.6241 2715 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3424.6241 just like I don't 3425.4681 2716 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3425.4681 (pause 0.67) 3426.1396 2717 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3426.1396 believe that we 3427.4359 2718 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3427.4359 (pause 0.20) 3427.6399 2719 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3427.6399 destroy every confederate monument that there is. There's a time and a place. 3431.7479 2720 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3431.7479 (pause 0.83) 3432.5826 2721 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3432.5826 We have holocaust museums. We don't forget it, 3435.2906 2722 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3435.2906 (pause 1.01) 3436.3024 2723 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3436.3024 we don't praise it. We don't 3437.7432 2724 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3437.7432 (pause 0.57) 3438.3168 2725 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3438.3168 celebrate it. 3439.6724 2726 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3439.6724 (pause 0.30) 3439.9756 2727 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3439.9756 But we remember it and we learn from it. 3442.0133 2728 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3442.0133 (pause 1.69) 3443.7013 2729 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3443.7013 /RD-SCHOOL-5/, 3444.6572 2730 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3444.6572 (pause 0.63) 3445.2902 2731 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3445.2902 as an academic institution, has a very strong reputation as a very academically rigorous school that 3450.4240 2732 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3450.4240 (pause 0.47) 3450.8892 2733 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3450.8892 you can get great professors. And you can get great classes and 3453.3418 2734 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3453.3418 (pause 0.58) 3453.9200 2735 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3453.9200 you have small class sizes and you can 3455.7805 2736 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3455.7805 (pause 0.64) 3456.4182 2737 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3456.4182 do great research. I mean I had the opportunity to work with 3459.1087 2738 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3459.1087 (pause 0.79) 3459.9014 2739 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3459.9014 great 3460.3630 2740 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3460.3630 (pause 0.31) 3460.6754 2741 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3460.6754 economics professors. And do amazing econometric research and things that I enjoyed around socioeconomic wage gaps. 3467.2816 2742 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3467.2816 (pause 0.72) 3468.0043 2743 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3468.0043 I most likely- Who knows, if I would've had the same opportunity at a big state school. I don't know, maybe, maybe not. 3473.4308 2744 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3473.4308 (pause 0.67) 3474.1023 2745 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3474.1023 So I had some great opportunities there. And I wouldn't- 3476.8989 2746 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3476.8989 (pause 1.42) 3478.3210 2747 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3478.3210 Although I wouldn't go do it again, once again. I- I also would [not-] 3482.1481 2748 VLD_int_01 3481.4813 [Mm.] 3481.8357 2749 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3483.0108 not have done it the first time. 3484.7174 2750 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3484.7174 (pause 0.30) 3485.0158 2751 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3485.0158 I'm glad I did it. I'm glad I went through that experience. 3487.2866 2752 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3487.2866 (pause 0.49) 3487.7798 2753 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3487.7798 And I think 3488.2880 2754 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3488.2880 (pause 0.16) 3488.4512 2755 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3488.4512 /RD-SCHOOL-5/ 3489.4910 2756 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3489.4910 (pause 0.86) 3490.3490 2757 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3490.3490 as a university has a lot to 3492.1909 2758 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3492.1909 (pause 0.30) 3492.4893 2759 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3492.4893 reconcile 3493.1421 2760 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3493.1421 (pause 0.49) 3493.6352 2761 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3493.6352 about how 3494.4092 2762 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3494.4092 (pause 0.29) 3494.7030 2763 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3494.7030 student life either 3496.3910 2764 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3496.3910 (pause 1.24) 3497.6360 2765 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3497.6360 promotes 3498.4053 2766 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3498.4053 (pause 0.68) 3499.0861 2767 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3499.0861 assimilation, or does it promote inclusion? 3501.6636 2768 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3501.6636 (pause 0.88) 3502.5448 2769 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3502.5448 And 3503.0065 2770 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3503.0065 (pause 0.48) 3503.4914 2771 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3503.4914 there's some work to do there. 3504.4753 2772 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3504.4753 (pause 0.39) 3504.8612 2773 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3504.8612 I 3505.1363 2774 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3505.1363 (pause 0.25) 3505.3834 2775 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3505.3834 haven't been back to campus in a while. And I don't really know exactly how things feel today, 3509.3096 2776 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3509.3096 (pause 0.57) 3509.8784 2777 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3509.8784 but I can say that from what I've seen, and from what I've heard from alumni who've graduated since, that things are changing. And 3515.6919 2778 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3515.6919 (pause 0.45) 3516.1442 2779 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3516.1442 the conversations are happening. 3517.5011 2780 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3517.5011 (pause 0.82) 3518.3206 2781 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3518.3206 So, 3518.7729 2782 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3518.7729 (pause 0.23) 3519.0061 2783 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3519.0061 I'd like to think that some of the things that we raised when we were there. And 3522.9276 2784 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3522.9276 (pause 0.43) 3523.3554 2785 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3523.3554 standing firm on that shirt being wrong, 3525.7895 2786 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3525.7895 (pause 0.12) 3525.9060 2787 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3525.9060 or 3526.3024 2788 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3526.3024 (pause 0.76) 3527.0578 2789 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3527.0578 when one of the fraternities decided that they were going to take a black Santa Claus and hang it over the balcony with 3532.0226 2790 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3532.0226 (pause 0.28) 3532.3070 2791 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3532.3070 Christmas lights around its neck. 3533.8318 2792 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3533.8318 (pause 0.80) 3534.6292 2793 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3534.6292 No matter how 3535.5338 2794 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3535.5338 (pause 2.09) 3537.6216 2795 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3537.6216 just 3538.1345 2796 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3538.1345 (pause 0.48) 3538.6148 2797 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3538.6148 idiotic it may have been, 3540.2468 2798 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3540.2468 (pause 1.77) 3542.0129 2799 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3542.0129 be more aware 3543.0760 2800 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3543.0760 (pause 0.44) 3543.5143 2801 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3543.5143 of who your 3544.3070 2802 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3544.3070 (pause 0.24) 3544.5495 2803 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3544.5495 peers are 3545.3608 2804 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3545.3608 (pause 0.39) 3545.7525 2805 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3545.7525 be more aware of 3547.1001 2806 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3547.1001 (pause 0.46) 3547.5606 2807 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3547.5606 creating an environment where 3549.1739 2808 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3549.1739 (pause 0.47) 3549.6449 2809 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3549.6449 your 3550.0319 2810 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3550.0319 (pause 0.42) 3550.4562 2811 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3550.4562 frat brothers, or sorority sisters feel welcome. And feel 3553.6723 2812 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3553.6723 (pause 0.36) 3554.0315 2813 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3554.0315 that this is a place where they can be 3555.8780 2814 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3555.8780 (pause 0.57) 3556.4516 2815 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3556.4516 all that they came to be 3558.3820 2816 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3558.3820 (pause 0.79) 3559.1736 2817 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3559.1736 is important. 3559.9756 2818 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3559.9756 (pause 0.24) 3560.2180 2819 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3560.2180 And 3560.6843 2820 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3560.6843 (pause 0.83) 3561.5097 2821 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3561.5097 you don't get to be- 3563.0251 2822 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3563.0251 (pause 0.77) 3563.7945 2823 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3563.7945 you don't get to feign ignorance. You don't get to- 3566.1528 2824 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3566.1528 (pause 2.03) 3568.1811 2825 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3568.1811 You don't have that opportunity to just say, well 3571.2213 2826 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3571.2213 (pause 0.74) 3571.9662 2827 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3571.9662 this is our school, deal with it. 3574.3443 2828 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3574.3443 (pause 1.55) 3575.8971 2829 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3575.8971 The institution is there for higher education and for learning and for 3579.3744 2830 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3579.3744 (pause 0.69) 3580.0599 2831 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3580.0599 advancing our society. So let it be for that purpose. And ensure that all students, no matter what their background is, can do that. 3587.0580 2832 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3587.0580 (pause 0.47) 3587.5287 2833 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3587.5287 So I think the school is going through those changes, 3589.4451 2834 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3589.4451 (pause 0.57) 3590.0129 2835 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3590.0129 I'm glad I've had the opportunity to contribute. I'm glad that I went to that school, 3593.1277 2836 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3593.1277 (pause 0.46) 3593.5893 2837 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3593.5893 and I'm hopeful that 3594.3820 2838 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3594.3820 (pause 0.25) 3594.6326 2839 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3594.6326 going forward, 3595.4300 2840 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3595.4300 (pause 0.48) 3595.9056 2841 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3595.9056 the things that 3596.6843 2842 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3596.6843 (pause 0.35) 3597.0294 2843 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3597.0294 I did during my time there and bringing up those concerns. And raising those concerns, 3601.1374 2844 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3601.1374 (pause 0.67) 3601.8124 2845 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3601.8124 will continue to 3602.9268 2846 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3602.9268 (pause 0.24) 3603.1646 2847 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3603.1646 go from class to class and 3604.9318 2848 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3604.9318 (pause 0.68) 3605.6126 2849 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3605.6126 there'll be some changes there. 3606.6991 2850 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3606.6991 (pause 0.64) 3607.3367 2851 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3607.3367 I think that experience at /RD-SCHOOL-5/ 3609.9526 2852 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3609.9526 (pause 0.65) 3610.6008 2853 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3610.6008 probably couldn't have set me up better for what 3612.4706 2854 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3612.4706 (pause 1.37) 3613.8403 2855 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3613.8403 was to come 3614.6983 2856 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3614.6983 (pause 0.91) 3615.6122 2857 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3615.6122 in going into 3616.5448 2858 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3616.5448 (pause 1.10) 3617.6406 2859 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3617.6406 a corporate 3618.1862 2860 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3618.1862 (pause 0.58) 3618.7644 2861 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3618.7644 environment. 3619.3379 2862 VLD_int_01 3620.6703 So, 3621.2905 2863 VLD_int_01 3621.2905 (pause 0.44) 3621.7288 2864 VLD_int_01 3621.7288 we've been talking for a while, so I'm gonna 3623.3235 2865 VLD_int_01 3623.3235 (pause 0.89) 3624.2176 2866 VLD_int_01 3624.2176 fast forward kind of through Corporate America, but I wanna ask you this question kind of in the lens. So as you moved from place to place, kind of going 3631.4311 2867 VLD_int_01 3631.4311 (pause 0.27) 3631.7004 2868 VLD_int_01 3631.7004 with your job and opportunities, 3634.4889 2869 VLD_int_01 3634.4889 (pause 0.50) 3634.9924 2870 VLD_int_01 3634.9924 how do you- How have your experience in different cities compared to life in Valdosta? 3640.0925 2871 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3642.3400 Nothing is like Valdosta. 3643.8030 2872 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3643.8030 (pause 3.63) 3647.4308 2873 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3647.4308 I've always said I don't wanna move back to Valdosta, 3649.7937 2874 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3649.7937 (pause 1.18) 3650.9734 2875 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3650.9734 now. 3651.3977 2876 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3651.3977 (pause 0.75) 3652.1438 2877 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3652.1438 But at some point in my life, or 3653.5287 2878 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3653.5287 (pause 0.55) 3654.0836 2879 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3654.0836 maybe retire, I don't know. I- I kind of do. 3656.1900 2880 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3656.1900 (pause 0.47) 3656.6610 2881 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3656.6610 There's something 3657.4304 2882 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3657.4304 (pause 2.73) 3660.1628 2883 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3660.1628 little nostalgic, 3661.1747 2884 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3661.1747 (pause 0.66) 3661.8357 2885 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3661.8357 a little special about Valdosta. It's not 3664.0738 2886 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3664.0738 (pause 1.81) 3665.8877 2887 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3665.8877 the smallest city ever. It's not the biggest city ever, but that's what makes it 3669.2159 2888 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3669.2159 (pause 0.73) 3669.9433 2889 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3669.9433 special. And 3670.7686 2890 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3670.7686 (pause 1.94) 3672.7119 2891 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3672.7119 have a lot of adoration for Valdosta. 3674.2460 2892 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3674.2460 (pause 3.34) 3677.5884 2893 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3677.5884 I've had very different experiences in all the places I've lived. 3680.0874 2894 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3680.0874 (pause 0.31) 3680.3952 2895 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3680.3952 Talked about college. And- and that was really my experience in Virginia. That- my college experience. 3684.7970 2896 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3684.7970 (pause 1.54) 3686.3392 2897 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3686.3392 Minneapolis being 3687.4490 2898 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3687.4490 (pause 0.70) 3688.1484 2899 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3688.1484 vastly different from that. 3689.6546 2900 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3689.6546 (pause 0.20) 3689.8504 2901 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3689.8504 Being 3690.2281 2902 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3690.2281 (pause 0.18) 3690.4099 2903 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3690.4099 different 3690.9182 2904 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3690.9182 (pause 0.57) 3691.4906 2905 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3691.4906 population of people just- I mean my best friend from Minneapolis is Lebanese. 3695.6732 2906 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3695.6732 (pause 1.09) 3696.7585 2907 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3696.7585 And just a very 3697.6258 2908 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3697.6258 (pause 0.29) 3697.9149 2909 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3697.9149 prevalent Muslim population. So learning about 3701.0997 2910 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3701.0997 (pause 1.91) 3703.0056 2911 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3703.0056 uh, Muslim culture. 3704.3346 2912 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3704.3346 (pause 0.72) 3705.0527 2913 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3705.0527 And experiencing things that I'd never 3707.5333 2914 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3707.5333 (pause 0.48) 3708.0136 2915 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3708.0136 experienced before. 3709.5524 2916 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3709.5524 (pause 1.90) 3711.4537 2917 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3711.4537 Took my 3712.4795 2918 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3712.4795 (pause 0.73) 3713.2069 2919 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3713.2069 passion for and interest in diversity inclusion to a different level. 3717.1552 2920 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3717.1552 (pause 0.68) 3717.8328 2921 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3717.8328 As I would say at that point, my interest in diversity inclusion was a- was 3721.9630 2922 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3721.9630 (pause 1.25) 3723.2173 2923 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3723.2173 for lack of a better term, 3724.1965 2924 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3724.1965 (pause 0.17) 3724.3690 2925 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3724.3690 very black and white. 3725.2923 2926 VLD_int_01 3726.6713 Literally? 3727.1516 2927 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3727.3475 [Literally] and figuratively, it was very black and white. 3730.1778 2928 VLD_int_01 3727.3521 [Figuratively?] 3728.0329 2929 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3732.7646 Then I went to Minneapolis and 3734.0516 2930 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3734.0516 (pause 1.54) 3735.5950 2931 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3735.5950 it's- it's 3736.5042 2932 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3736.5042 (pause 0.27) 3736.7700 2933 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3736.7700 actually a lot less black and white. It's 3738.8718 2934 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3738.8718 (pause 1.38) 3740.2521 2935 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3740.2521 Hmong and Muslim population and 3742.8213 2936 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3742.8213 (pause 0.70) 3743.5243 2937 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3743.5243 v- very different 3744.7226 2938 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3744.7226 (pause 0.76) 3745.4782 2939 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3745.4782 ethnic backgrounds 3746.8718 2940 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3746.8718 (pause 1.04) 3747.9140 2941 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3747.9140 melting together. 3749.4341 2942 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3749.4341 (pause 0.67) 3750.1009 2943 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3750.1009 In a space where I- for the first time, saw a lot more 3753.0385 2944 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3753.0385 (pause 0.44) 3753.4769 2945 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3753.4769 multiracial relationships. 3754.9690 2946 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3754.9690 (pause 0.74) 3755.7104 2947 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3755.7104 That was different. 3756.3445 2948 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3756.3445 (pause 0.80) 3757.1454 2949 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3757.1454 That- it's not unheard of, but it was just so much more prevalent 3760.5167 2950 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3760.5167 (pause 0.76) 3761.2767 2951 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3761.2767 in 3761.7617 2952 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3761.7617 (pause 0.80) 3762.5579 2953 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3762.5579 Minneapolis. 3763.3696 2954 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3763.3696 (pause 1.49) 3764.8613 2955 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3764.8613 That experience, 3766.4887 2956 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3766.4887 (pause 0.93) 3767.4213 2957 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3767.4213 made me want to know more about 3770.1479 2958 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3770.1479 (pause 2.19) 3772.3348 2959 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3772.3348 beyond 3773.2534 2960 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3773.2534 (pause 1.64) 3774.8889 2961 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3774.8889 America, Black, white 3776.3857 2962 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3776.3857 (pause 0.42) 3776.8101 2963 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3776.8101 and America as a melting pot. And America as 3779.7057 2964 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3779.7057 (pause 0.96) 3780.6698 2965 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3780.6698 a place of opportunity, for a wide variety and, 3784.2183 2966 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3784.2183 (pause 0.84) 3785.0622 2967 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3785.0622 uh, 3785.5052 2968 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3785.5052 (pause 3.10) 3788.6002 2969 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3788.6002 3788.7168 2970 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3788.7168 (pause 0.35) 3789.0619 2971 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3789.0619 different 3790.3954 2972 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3790.3954 (pause 0.90) 3791.2954 2973 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3791.2954 perspective 3792.4984 2974 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3792.4984 (pause 0.44) 3792.9356 2975 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3792.9356 all together. 3793.7516 2976 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3793.7516 (pause 1.55) 3795.3043 2977 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3795.3043 So Minneapolis gave me that perspective. Then 3798.0181 2978 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3798.0181 (pause 0.78) 3798.8003 2979 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3798.8003 appreciating it for what it was, and a great learning opportunity experience, it was not for me from a climate perspective. 3805.1326 2980 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3805.1326 (pause 0.44) 3805.5744 2981 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3805.5744 So that is when we decided it was time to move to Charlotte. 3807.9665 2982 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3807.9665 (pause 0.91) 3808.8804 2983 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3808.8804 A- and having the career opportunity to do so. 3810.9880 2984 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3810.9880 (pause 0.93) 3811.9148 2985 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3811.9148 Charlotte, 3812.6375 2986 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3812.6375 (pause 2.09) 3814.7312 2987 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3814.7312 was the first place where I- 3815.8689 2988 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3815.8689 (pause 0.24) 3816.1114 2989 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3816.1114 I- I bought my first home. 3817.3599 2990 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3817.3599 (pause 2.18) 3819.5421 2991 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3819.5421 And I don't know that I ever thought I was going to 3821.5985 2992 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3821.5985 (pause 0.36) 3821.9622 2993 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3821.9622 be in Charlotte 3823.1512 2994 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3823.1512 (pause 1.33) 3824.4790 2995 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3824.4790 forever, 3825.2297 2996 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3825.2297 (pause 0.64) 3825.8685 2997 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3825.8685 but buying my first home was 3828.9414 2998 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3828.9414 (pause 2.50) 3831.4442 2999 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3831.4442 a milestone. I mean I was in my mid twenties and buying a house. And 3834.8948 3000 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3834.8948 (pause 1.55) 3836.4464 3001 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3836.4464 starting my very own life, with my then fiance at the time. 3839.9062 3002 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3839.9062 (pause 0.92) 3840.8237 3003 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3840.8237 And 3841.4298 3004 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3841.4298 (pause 0.93) 3842.3578 3005 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3842.3578 that didn't work out, but 3843.9431 3006 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3843.9431 (pause 1.29) 3845.2301 3007 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3845.2301 it 3845.5052 3008 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3845.5052 (pause 0.82) 3846.3212 3009 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3846.3212 gave me this sense of independence. And 3848.3111 3010 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3848.3111 (pause 0.43) 3848.7401 3011 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3848.7401 being able to live on my own, navigate on my own 3850.6752 3012 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3850.6752 (pause 1.45) 3852.1300 3013 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3852.1300 just 3852.5544 3014 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3852.5544 (pause 0.25) 3852.8050 3015 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3852.8050 do it myself. I wasn't in college, and- and when I moved to Minneapolis, I moved to Minneapolis with- 3856.9643 3016 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3856.9643 (pause 0.72) 3857.6824 3017 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3857.6824 with my company. 3858.5311 3018 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3858.5311 (pause 0.53) 3859.0615 3019 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3859.0615 And it was a very structured program, 3861.1038 3020 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3861.1038 (pause 0.28) 3861.3789 3021 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3861.3789 so even though I was out of school, I wasn't living on a campus or anything. I was living in an apartment. 3865.0300 3022 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3865.0300 (pause 0.59) 3865.6164 3023 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3865.6164 It's- there was still this structure about it, that I had relocation money that was given to me. And 3870.2513 3024 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3870.2513 (pause 0.45) 3870.6978 3025 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3870.6978 there were expectations. And 3872.1946 3026 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3872.1946 (pause 0.51) 3872.7075 3027 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3872.7075 i- it was measured and metered. 3874.3535 3028 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3874.3535 (pause 0.76) 3875.1182 3029 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3875.1182 I moved to Charlotte 3876.1953 3030 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3876.1953 (pause 0.49) 3876.6884 3031 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3876.6884 on my own. 3877.5604 3032 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3877.5604 (pause 0.17) 3877.7329 3033 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3877.7329 And 3878.0547 3034 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3878.0547 (pause 0.24) 3878.2925 3035 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3878.2925 made that decision and had to hire people to move my stuff. And 3881.3513 3036 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3881.3513 (pause 0.56) 3881.9155 3037 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3881.9155 it- it felt very grown up. It felt like- 3884.4510 3038 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3884.4510 (pause 1.04) 3885.4862 3039 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3885.4862 Charlotte is where I felt like my ad- 3887.3513 3040 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3887.3513 (pause 0.47) 3887.8176 3041 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3887.8176 true adult life started. 3889.4718 3042 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3889.4718 (pause 0.74) 3890.2085 3043 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3890.2085 And I went through some 3891.4442 3044 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3891.4442 (pause 1.71) 3893.1555 3045 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3893.1555 hard times in Charlotte 3894.8108 3046 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3894.8108 (pause 4.11) 3898.9224 3047 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3898.9224 that 3899.4166 3048 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3899.4166 (pause 3.49) 3902.9080 3049 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3902.9080 forced- not forced, 3904.3488 3050 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3904.3488 (pause 1.23) 3905.5752 3051 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3905.5752 inspired me to 3907.1978 3052 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3907.1978 (pause 1.96) 3909.1598 3053 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3909.1598 look at what was important. 3910.2369 3054 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3910.2369 (pause 0.99) 3911.2254 3055 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3911.2254 And Charlotte's a great city. I've- 3913.1081 3056 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3913.1081 (pause 0.19) 3913.2993 3057 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3913.2993 I had 3913.7189 3058 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3913.7189 (pause 1.62) 3915.3370 3059 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3915.3370 like I said, that's where I felt like, this is where my adult life started. 3918.5870 3060 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3918.5870 (pause 0.99) 3919.5791 3061 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3919.5791 I didn't feel like, that's where my adult life needed to be. 3922.4467 3062 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3922.4467 (pause 0.95) 3923.3933 3063 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3923.3933 Um, 3923.8643 3064 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3923.8643 (pause 0.21) 3924.0694 3065 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3924.0694 finished my MBA. 3924.9834 3066 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3924.9834 (pause 0.55) 3925.5371 3067 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3925.5371 And 3926.1013 3068 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3926.1013 (pause 0.46) 3926.5629 3069 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3926.5629 when I finished my MBA, it felt like a good time to- 3928.8990 3070 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3928.8990 (pause 1.36) 3930.2548 3071 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3930.2548 to 3930.9869 3072 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3930.9869 (pause 1.20) 3932.1899 3073 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3932.1899 start fresh. 3933.0012 3074 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3933.0012 (pause 0.44) 3933.4395 3075 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3933.4395 Start new. 3934.2416 3076 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3934.2416 (pause 0.87) 3935.1089 3077 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3935.1089 Leave 3935.7943 3078 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3935.7943 (pause 0.73) 3936.5206 3079 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3936.5206 some heart ache. And- and some 3938.1806 3080 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3938.1806 (pause 0.45) 3938.6282 3081 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3938.6282 pain behind. 3939.5048 3082 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3939.5048 (pause 1.03) 3940.5307 3083 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3940.5307 And that's when I decided I wanted to move to Atlanta. 3942.5217 3084 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3942.5217 (pause 0.76) 3943.2806 3085 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3943.2806 Be closer to family. Back to my roots. Like, 3945.7053 3086 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3945.7053 (pause 0.24) 3945.9431 3087 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3945.9431 that I 3946.4607 3088 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3946.4607 (pause 0.21) 3946.6752 3089 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3946.6752 don't get the opportunity to see 3948.4891 3090 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3948.4891 (pause 1.19) 3949.6770 3091 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3949.6770 my brothers as much as I wanted to. I didn't see my mom as much as I wanted to. 3953.1835 3092 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3953.1835 (pause 1.09) 3954.2781 3093 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3954.2781 Charlotte never felt like home, 3956.1106 3094 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3956.1106 (pause 0.82) 3956.9313 3095 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3956.9313 and although Atlanta's not Valdosta and it never will be, 3959.2254 3096 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3959.2254 (pause 0.95) 3960.1709 3097 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3960.1709 there's something about being in Georgia that feels like home. 3962.7075 3098 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3962.7075 (pause 0.68) 3963.3836 3099 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3963.3836 And 3963.6820 3100 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3963.6820 (pause 1.07) 3964.7545 3101 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3964.7545 being able to s- buy my house in 3966.6989 3102 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3966.6989 (pause 0.35) 3967.0475 3103 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3967.0475 Atlanta. And go to Atlanta and start fresh. 3970.4281 3104 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3970.4281 (pause 1.75) 3972.1813 3105 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3972.1813 Charlotte gave me that opportunity to feel like a grown-up. 3974.9499 3106 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3974.9499 (pause 0.84) 3975.7893 3107 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3975.7893 Atlanta is where I am by choice because 3978.2932 3108 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3978.2932 (pause 0.81) 3979.1034 3109 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3979.1034 it's where it felt right in my life at this point. And I don't know what Atlanta's going to teach me, 3983.8922 3110 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3983.8922 (pause 0.84) 3984.7304 3111 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3984.7304 kind of hopeful Atlanta will get me a husband maybe, 3986.8707 3112 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3986.8707 (pause 0.48) 3987.3556 3113 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3987.3556 possibly 3987.9525 3114 VLD_int_01 3988.3628 [That's what I'm] thinking. 3990.0927 3115 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3988.3675 [we'll see.] 3988.8244 3116 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3990.2886 And if that's what I'm in Atlanta for, then I'm happy about that. 3993.0385 3117 VLD_int_01 3993.0712 Me too. 3994.0131 3118 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3994.2789 Very. 3994.6566 3119 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3994.6566 (pause 1.18) 3995.8363 3120 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3995.8363 But maybe l- maybe Atlanta's not the last stop either. 3998.2552 3121 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3998.2552 (pause 1.04) 3999.2903 3122 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 3999.2903 In my heart though, 4000.3908 3123 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 4000.3908 (pause 0.47) 4000.8617 3124 VLD_se0_ag3_f_02 4000.8617 I kind of hope Valdosta's my last stop. 4002.6209