Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 VLD_int_01 0.5143 So tell me your name? 1.4050 2 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1.8887 /RD-NAME-5/ 2.7794 3 VLD_int_01 7.9960 And your birthday? 8.6675 4 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 9.2969 February eighteenth. 10.5513 5 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 10.5513 (pause 0.31) 10.8590 6 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 10.8590 nineteen eighty-two. 11.8149 7 VLD_int_01 14.2291 Stomach's growling. Where were you born? 15.9031 8 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 16.2762 Valdosta. 16.9569 9 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 16.9569 (pause 0.41) 17.3626 10 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 17.3626 South Georgia Medical Center. 18.6671 11 VLD_int_01 20.6162 Have you lived anywhere else? 21.7353 12 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 22.0710 No. 22.3274 13 VLD_int_01 24.3407 Um, what neighborhood have you lived in? 26.0286 14 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 26.8260 I lived, uh, on the East Side of Valdosta. 29.6657 15 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 29.6657 (pause 1.31) 30.9795 16 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 30.9795 On, /RD-ADDRESS-3/. 32.3271 17 VLD_int_01 34.3321 Have you lived in any other neighborhoods? 35.7496 18 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 35.9315 No. 36.2346 19 VLD_int_01 38.3737 Where'd you go to school? 39.0918 20 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 40.6305 /RD-SCHOOL-5/ 41.8242 21 VLD_int_01 42.9329 What about college? 43.7349 22 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 44.5462 /RD-SCHOOL-9/. 46.2388 23 VLD_int_01 47.5911 And what's your current occupation? 48.8594 24 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 49.2313 Hm. 49.4085 25 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 49.4085 (pause 0.51) 49.9214 26 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 49.9214 Educator. 50.6348 27 VLD_int_01 54.7148 Where was your dad born? 55.6241 28 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 56.4390 He was born in Lakeland, Georgia. 58.0803 29 VLD_int_01 58.8917 And where is that? 59.4139 30 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 60.4304 About twenty miles 61.8000 31 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 61.8000 (pause 1.25) 63.0498 32 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 63.0498 east of Valdosta. 64.1456 33 VLD_int_01 67.2313 And what about your mom? 68.0426 34 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 68.4157 She was born in Valdosta as well. 70.9290 35 VLD_int_01 72.6169 I don't think I knew that. 73.2884 36 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 74.0986 Yeah. 74.4390 37 VLD_int_01 75.0312 What does your- what does your dad do, or what did your dad do? 77.1108 38 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 78.0434 My dad is, uh, retired from Valdosta State University. He's a full-time pastor. 83.3906 39 VLD_int_01 85.0401 What did he do at VSU? 85.8748 40 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 86.7030 He, uh, started out working as a- 89.2647 41 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 89.2647 (pause 0.15) 89.4139 42 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 89.4139 a bus driver and a custodian, 91.4376 43 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 91.4376 (pause 0.51) 91.9447 44 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 91.9447 but he ended his career as 93.9451 45 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 93.9451 (pause 0.24) 94.1876 46 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 94.1876 one of the, 94.7917 47 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 94.7917 (pause 0.16) 94.9558 48 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 94.9558 uh, copy technicians 96.6630 49 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 96.6630 (pause 0.13) 96.7919 50 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 96.7919 in the print shop. 97.5169 51 VLD_int_01 100.2610 /I know-/ I didn't know that. 101.6377 52 VLD_int_01 101.6377 (pause 2.48) 104.1130 53 VLD_int_01 104.1130 What about your mom? 104.7498 54 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 105.9451 My mother, uh, retired after 108.8687 55 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 108.8687 (pause 0.84) 109.7069 56 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 109.7069 over thirty-five years in, um, 111.7485 57 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 111.7485 (pause 0.29) 112.0383 58 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 112.0383 the school system. For Valdosta City schools. 114.7475 59 VLD_int_01 118.0637 What did she teach? 118.8217 60 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 119.5491 She, uh, s- 120.7988 61 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 120.7988 (pause 0.28) 121.0774 62 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 121.0774 has taught, 121.7418 63 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 121.7418 (pause 0.17) 121.9098 64 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 121.9098 uh, 122.2770 65 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 122.2770 (pause 0.20) 122.4801 66 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 122.4801 fifth grade and second grade. 124.0663 67 VLD_int_01 129.0296 When she retired, she was fifth grade right? 130.5653 68 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 130.8077 Nah, she was second grade when she retired and she started fifth grade and 133.9307 69 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 133.9307 (pause 0.22) 134.1499 70 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 134.1499 did the last four or five years in second grade. 136.3554 71 VLD_int_01 137.9315 When I went to her classroom, she was fifth grade. 139.6696 72 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 139.6976 Uh, yeah. 140.1312 73 VLD_int_01 140.6395 Okay. 141.0824 74 VLD_int_01 141.0824 (pause 1.05) 142.1316 75 VLD_int_01 142.1316 Cause I was like I don't remember [second grade.] 143.8522 76 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 143.1668 [Yeah, cause you were- yeah], you were gone. 144.8780 77 VLD_int_01 145.2826 Okay. 145.7069 78 VLD_int_01 145.7069 (pause 3.25) 148.9569 79 VLD_int_01 148.9569 And today is the twenty-third. 150.9929 80 VLD_int_01 150.9929 (pause 2.67) 153.6606 81 VLD_int_01 153.6606 /Alright/. 154.1736 82 VLD_int_01 154.1736 (pause 5.92) 160.0973 83 VLD_int_01 160.0973 Okay. 160.5140 84 VLD_int_01 160.5140 (pause 2.20) 162.7184 85 VLD_int_01 162.7184 So tell me a little bit about 164.2245 86 VLD_int_01 164.2245 (pause 1.02) 165.2456 87 VLD_int_01 165.2456 what you- your- like your childhood home. 167.3346 88 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 168.7568 Well my childhood home was, uh, one that was, 171.6327 89 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 171.6327 (pause 0.14) 171.7679 90 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 171.7679 um, very structured. Uh, it was very loving. It was 175.1905 91 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 175.1905 (pause 0.72) 175.9074 92 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 175.9074 an anomaly, 176.7651 93 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 176.7651 (pause 0.12) 176.8862 94 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 176.8862 uh, uh, at the time because 179.3626 95 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 179.3626 (pause 0.86) 180.2252 96 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 180.2252 I had two parents in the home. 181.9167 97 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 181.9167 (pause 0.21) 182.1219 98 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 182.1219 Um, 182.7281 99 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 182.7281 (pause 0.93) 183.6560 100 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 183.6560 of course, um, 184.5186 101 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 184.5186 (pause 0.25) 184.7658 102 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 184.7658 my- my mom, (whispered) 185.6470 103 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 185.6470 (pause 0.30) 185.9501 104 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 185.9501 my mom was in education. And, um, 189.0451 105 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 189.0451 (pause 0.87) 189.9124 106 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 189.9124 my dad worked at 191.1015 107 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 191.1015 (pause 0.24) 191.3440 108 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 191.3440 VSU so they both had 193.2091 109 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 193.2091 (pause 0.45) 193.6556 110 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 193.6556 stable jobs that, may not have been 196.2015 111 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 196.2015 (pause 0.41) 196.6165 112 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 196.6165 well paying, but 197.6750 113 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 197.6750 (pause 0.87) 198.5470 114 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 198.5470 at the end of the day, they were sufficient to, uh, 201.2969 115 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 201.2969 (pause 0.15) 201.4508 116 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 201.4508 you know, take care of my brother and myself. 203.3694 117 VLD_int_01 204.1320 Are you the oldest? 204.9014 118 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 204.9433 I am. 205.4796 119 VLD_int_01 206.5742 And you have- and how old- how- What's the age gap? 208.8963 120 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 209.0688 It's three year difference. 210.3465 121 VLD_int_01 211.1380 And tell me about your neighborhood. 212.4483 122 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 213.2876 Uh, my neighborhood, um, 215.5118 123 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 215.5118 (pause 1.79) 217.3059 124 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 217.3059 changed over time, uh, when 219.4648 125 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 219.4648 (pause 0.24) 219.7073 126 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 219.7073 I was very small, 221.2087 127 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 221.2087 (pause 0.52) 221.7310 128 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 221.7310 uh, the demographics of the neighborhood was 224.0846 129 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 224.0846 (pause 0.31) 224.3970 130 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 224.3970 mixed. Uh, we had some, um, 226.7098 131 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 226.7098 (pause 0.25) 226.9569 132 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 226.9569 African American families on the street. 228.9666 133 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 228.9666 (pause 0.47) 229.4318 134 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 229.4318 We also had some caucasian families on the street. Uh, it was very- 233.2693 135 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 233.2693 (pause 1.36) 234.6309 136 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 234.6309 you know, nice neighborhood, 236.1545 137 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 236.1545 (pause 0.39) 236.5416 138 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 236.5416 but over time as, 238.4580 139 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 238.4580 (pause 0.73) 239.1854 140 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 239.1854 uh, different things began to change, 241.4469 141 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 241.4469 (pause 0.59) 242.0333 142 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 242.0333 um, 242.4343 143 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 242.4343 (pause 0.58) 243.0172 144 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 243.0172 some people, 243.8985 145 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 243.8985 (pause 0.19) 244.0896 146 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 244.0896 moved out of the neighborhood. Um, some of the older people in the neighborhood passed away. 248.6488 147 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 248.6488 (pause 0.77) 249.4182 148 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 249.4182 And 249.9264 149 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 249.9264 (pause 0.99) 250.9196 150 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 250.9196 it became, uh, 252.2579 151 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 252.2579 (pause 0.27) 252.5318 152 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 252.5318 an area for, 253.7815 153 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 253.7815 (pause 0.96) 254.7374 154 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 254.7374 um, drugs and sometimes 256.5746 155 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 256.5746 (pause 0.16) 256.7331 156 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 256.7331 violence. Uh, so much so, 258.7615 157 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 258.7615 (pause 0.53) 259.2919 158 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 259.2919 that the 260.4296 159 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 260.4296 (pause 0.93) 261.3576 160 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 261.3576 local bowling ally that was across the street from my house became the hangout spot 265.6520 161 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 265.6520 (pause 0.54) 266.1872 162 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 266.1872 for folks that wanted to 267.6140 163 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 267.6140 (pause 0.28) 267.8938 164 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 267.8938 do and 268.7424 165 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 268.7424 (pause 0.24) 268.9849 166 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 268.9849 deal drugs. So much so 270.7428 167 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 270.7428 (pause 0.47) 271.2091 168 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 271.2091 that 271.4329 169 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 271.4329 (pause 0.41) 271.8421 170 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 271.8421 the bowling ally went out of business. 273.5674 171 VLD_int_01 275.0502 Really? 275.4372 172 VLD_int_01 275.4372 (pause 0.29) 275.7263 173 VLD_int_01 275.7263 I didn't know that's why they closed. 277.1720 174 VLD_int_01 277.1720 (pause 1.74) 278.9099 175 VLD_int_01 278.9099 I was always wondering. 279.9777 176 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 280.1922 Yep. 280.5279 177 VLD_int_01 281.8336 So what- 282.2066 178 VLD_int_01 282.2066 (pause 0.26) 282.4677 179 VLD_int_01 282.4677 like what caused the change- like I- 283.9833 180 VLD_int_01 283.9833 (pause 0.18) 284.1669 181 VLD_int_01 284.1669 I knew that area kind of like 285.8077 182 VLD_int_01 285.8077 (pause 0.34) 286.1437 183 VLD_int_01 286.1437 went down, but. 287.0269 184 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 290.0380 I think that most of it was because of the fact that- 294.3232 185 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 294.3232 (pause 0.96) 295.2872 186 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 295.2872 I think that the- the 296.9937 187 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 296.9937 (pause 2.02) 299.0129 188 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 299.0129 type of people who 300.3045 189 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 300.3045 (pause 0.48) 300.7836 190 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 300.7836 lived in the housing projects changed. 302.8866 191 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 302.8866 (pause 0.48) 303.3669 192 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 303.3669 Um, because, uh, the people that lived in the housing projects when I- 307.3956 193 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 307.3956 (pause 0.45) 307.8421 194 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 307.8421 when we were growing up at first, 310.0057 195 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 310.0057 (pause 0.58) 310.5837 196 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 310.5837 were people who were using, 312.0620 197 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 312.0620 (pause 0.66) 312.7230 198 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 312.7230 uh, that Valdosta Housing Authority to be a stepping stone to something else. 317.0463 199 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 317.0463 (pause 0.60) 317.6424 200 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 317.6424 Then we started to get people who did not mind, 320.9379 201 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 320.9379 (pause 1.00) 321.9404 202 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 321.9404 uh, living in low income housing and 324.4491 203 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 324.4491 (pause 0.46) 324.9107 204 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 324.9107 just settled into 326.2851 205 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 326.2851 (pause 0.84) 327.1244 206 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 327.1244 that lifestyle 328.1129 207 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 328.1129 (pause 0.35) 328.4627 208 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 328.4627 that is, uh, 329.7263 209 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 329.7263 (pause 0.25) 329.9734 210 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 329.9734 very much, 330.8407 211 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 330.8407 (pause 0.20) 331.0366 212 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 331.0366 uh, can be stagnant if you 333.0824 213 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 333.0824 (pause 0.33) 333.4135 214 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 333.4135 choose not to 334.5792 215 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 334.5792 (pause 0.43) 335.0082 216 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 335.0082 do something different. 336.0526 217 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 336.0526 (pause 0.39) 336.4397 218 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 336.4397 And so, 337.2091 219 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 337.2091 (pause 0.43) 337.6369 220 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 337.6369 as- as the nature of people. And things they wanted out of life changed, 342.8128 221 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 342.8128 (pause 0.51) 343.3245 222 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 343.3245 so did the neighborhood. 344.5322 223 VLD_int_01 346.1549 Mm. 346.4487 224 VLD_int_01 346.4487 (pause 0.63) 347.0782 225 VLD_int_01 347.0782 When did that happen? Like about? 348.6729 226 VLD_int_01 348.6729 (pause 0.49) 349.1671 227 VLD_int_01 349.1671 Mm- 349.3443 228 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 349.4644 I will say, 350.8586 229 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 350.8586 (pause 0.41) 351.2643 230 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 351.2643 that somewhere between 353.2181 231 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 353.2181 (pause 1.41) 354.6263 232 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 354.6263 nineteen ninety-three and nineteen ninety-five. Um, 357.7038 233 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 357.7038 (pause 0.65) 358.3554 234 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 358.3554 at the times that was, uh, pretty much, 360.7901 235 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 360.7901 (pause 0.29) 361.0792 236 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 361.0792 um, 361.6241 237 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 361.6241 (pause 0.77) 362.3939 238 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 362.3939 instrumental for me because that was the time that I was 365.3456 239 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 365.3456 (pause 0.89) 366.2315 240 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 366.2315 going from 367.2480 241 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 367.2480 (pause 0.89) 368.1421 242 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 368.1421 elementary to 369.2706 243 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 369.2706 (pause 0.45) 369.7182 244 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 369.7182 middle school. 370.6927 245 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 370.6927 (pause 0.63) 371.3269 246 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 371.3269 And, um, a lot of things changed in Valdosta in the early nineties because 376.1239 247 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 376.1239 (pause 0.58) 376.7021 248 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 376.7021 the, uh, population boomed so much so that, 379.9568 249 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 379.9568 (pause 0.99) 380.9442 250 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 380.9442 uh, Valdosta 382.2311 251 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 382.2311 (pause 0.18) 382.4130 252 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 382.4130 State College, became Valdosta State University. 385.0708 253 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 385.0708 (pause 0.72) 385.7936 254 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 385.7936 And Valdosta began to grow. And they adopted the middle school concept, 390.8909 255 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 390.8909 (pause 0.44) 391.3319 256 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 391.3319 which 391.8449 257 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 391.8449 (pause 0.81) 392.6504 258 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 392.6504 changed a lot of 393.5410 259 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 393.5410 (pause 0.29) 393.8301 260 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 393.8301 things 394.3990 261 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 394.3990 (pause 0.39) 394.7907 262 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 394.7907 as well. 395.5227 263 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 395.5227 (pause 0.61) 396.1289 264 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 396.1289 Because once they changed the 398.8058 265 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 398.8058 (pause 0.28) 399.0870 266 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 399.0870 concept of how, 400.3430 267 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 400.3430 (pause 0.68) 401.0238 268 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 401.0238 uh, schooling was done, and how 402.9309 269 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 402.9309 (pause 0.63) 403.5604 270 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 403.5604 students were, 404.5152 271 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 404.5152 (pause 0.92) 405.4338 272 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 405.4338 um, 406.0120 273 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 406.0120 (pause 0.41) 406.4270 274 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 406.4270 separated. 407.1450 275 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 407.1450 (pause 2.52) 409.6630 276 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 409.6630 You started to see 411.0701 277 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 411.0701 (pause 0.53) 411.5970 278 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 411.5970 people become more comfortable 413.1217 279 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 413.1217 (pause 0.63) 413.7512 280 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 413.7512 in their lifestyles. 415.0662 281 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 415.0662 (pause 0.48) 415.5453 282 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 415.5453 Because they no longer had to 417.3079 283 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 417.3079 (pause 0.42) 417.7322 284 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 417.7322 mix, to go to Valdosta Junior High School. 420.6978 285 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 420.6978 (pause 0.83) 421.5231 286 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 421.5231 We- 421.9894 287 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 421.9894 (pause 0.28) 422.2680 288 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 422.2680 bi- basically had, 424.1425 289 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 424.1425 (pause 0.91) 425.0565 290 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 425.0565 what I would consider to be 427.3832 291 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 427.3832 (pause 1.67) 429.0514 292 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 429.0514 a legal, 429.7695 293 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 429.7695 (pause 1.23) 430.9958 294 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 430.9958 um, 431.5740 295 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 431.5740 (pause 0.81) 432.3854 296 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 432.3854 segregation, 433.2488 297 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 433.2488 (pause 0.20) 433.4480 298 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 433.4480 because 434.1619 299 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 434.1619 (pause 0.65) 434.8152 300 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 434.8152 when they, built 435.9682 301 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 435.9682 (pause 1.57) 437.5394 302 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 437.5394 uh, JL Newbern Middle School, 439.6859 303 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 439.6859 (pause 0.86) 440.5503 304 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 440.5503 they built it 441.3217 305 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 441.3217 (pause 0.18) 441.5066 306 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 441.5066 to serve the students- 443.7460 307 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 443.7460 (pause 0.48) 444.2210 308 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 444.2210 the children who lived on the East Side 447.1309 309 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 447.1309 (pause 0.52) 447.6524 310 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 447.6524 and the South Side of town. 449.5596 311 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 449.5596 (pause 0.71) 450.2683 312 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 450.2683 Which, 450.8540 313 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 450.8540 (pause 0.28) 451.1326 314 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 451.1326 was where 451.7648 315 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 451.7648 (pause 0.97) 452.7318 316 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 452.7318 ninety-eight percent of the African Americans lived. 455.2390 317 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 455.2390 (pause 0.43) 455.6712 318 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 455.6712 And that was where the low- where the socioeconomic status 459.3919 319 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 459.3919 (pause 0.37) 459.7598 320 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 459.7598 was lower. 460.4455 321 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 460.4455 (pause 0.67) 461.1197 322 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 461.1197 And so, 461.8947 323 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 461.8947 (pause 0.35) 462.2412 324 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 462.2412 people 462.9198 325 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 462.9198 (pause 0.41) 463.3269 326 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 463.3269 just 463.7662 327 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 463.7662 (pause 0.24) 464.0019 328 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 464.0019 settled in. 464.8377 329 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 464.8377 (pause 0.96) 465.8011 330 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 465.8011 And 466.4190 331 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 466.4190 (pause 0.63) 467.0512 332 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 467.0512 took over the neighborhood. 468.0548 333 VLD_int_01 469.3763 So how'd you end up going to Valdosta? 470.6933 334 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 471.7541 Well, 471.9541 335 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 471.9541 (pause 0.15) 472.1041 336 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 472.1041 I was able to go to /RD-SCHOOL-6/ simply because, 475.3962 337 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 475.3962 (pause 0.56) 475.9606 338 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 475.9606 uh, my mother worked 477.3749 339 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 477.3749 (pause 0.16) 477.5356 340 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 477.5356 in the school system. And at that time, 479.8214 341 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 479.8214 (pause 1.52) 481.3385 342 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 481.3385 if you had, 482.1421 343 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 482.1421 (pause 0.21) 482.3564 344 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 482.3564 um, a parent 483.4243 345 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 483.4243 (pause 0.62) 484.0422 346 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 484.0422 that worked in the school system, 485.6164 347 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 485.6164 (pause 0.43) 486.0450 348 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 486.0450 uh, you were able to, 487.4915 349 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 487.4915 (pause 0.15) 487.6415 350 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 487.6415 uh, 487.8986 351 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 487.8986 (pause 0.56) 488.4577 352 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 488.4577 488.5476 353 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 488.5476 (pause 0.19) 488.7344 354 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 488.7344 go to 489.2585 355 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 489.2585 (pause 0.24) 489.5014 356 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 489.5014 the school 490.6050 357 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 490.6050 (pause 0.51) 491.1122 358 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 491.1122 of your choice. And of course 493.1265 359 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 493.1265 (pause 0.51) 493.6400 360 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 493.6400 we lived on 494.9936 361 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 494.9936 (pause 0.23) 495.2186 362 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 495.2186 the East Side of town and 496.9258 363 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 496.9258 (pause 0.63) 497.5544 364 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 497.5544 I should have gone to 498.9679 365 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 498.9679 (pause 1.05) 500.0179 366 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 500.0179 a different elementary school, 501.5109 367 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 501.5109 (pause 0.68) 502.1859 368 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 502.1859 but 502.5573 369 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 502.5573 (pause 0.30) 502.8565 370 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 502.8565 I went to the elementary school where my mother worked. 505.5709 371 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 505.5709 (pause 1.04) 506.6138 372 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 506.6138 And I left there and went to, 508.5879 373 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 508.5879 (pause 1.03) 509.6166 374 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 509.6166 um, 510.2881 375 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 510.2881 (pause 0.61) 510.8952 376 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 510.8952 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ which at the time was fifth and sixth grade. 513.7659 377 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 513.7659 (pause 0.49) 514.2517 378 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 514.2517 Which was, 514.9660 379 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 514.9660 (pause 1.40) 516.3687 380 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 516.3687 the 516.7509 381 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 516.7509 (pause 0.52) 517.2688 382 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 517.2688 School that was fed by /RD-SCHOOL-4/ where I went to school. 520.6046 383 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 520.6046 (pause 0.55) 521.1574 384 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 521.1574 And I went from there to /RD-SCHOOL-5/. So I just 524.0825 385 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 524.0825 (pause 0.61) 524.6897 386 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 524.6897 took the streamline 525.9424 387 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 525.9424 (pause 0.50) 526.4389 388 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 526.4389 of schools from the places where 528.4889 389 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 528.4889 (pause 0.34) 528.8247 390 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 528.8247 my mom worked, 529.7033 391 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 529.7033 (pause 0.12) 529.8274 392 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 529.8274 rather than where I lived. 531.1989 393 VLD_int_01 532.7311 Hm. 533.1168 394 VLD_int_01 533.1168 (pause 0.25) 533.3669 395 VLD_int_01 533.3669 Did you like school? 534.1133 396 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 535.7339 School was, um, it was fun. And I, 538.3769 397 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 538.3769 (pause 0.20) 538.5734 398 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 538.5734 um, 538.9341 399 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 538.9341 (pause 0.14) 539.0734 400 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 539.0734 I- I liked school because it gave me an opportunity to. 542.8941 401 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 542.8941 (pause 0.98) 543.8754 402 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 543.8754 um, like I said, escape some of the things that were going on, in 547.4970 403 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 547.4970 (pause 0.47) 547.9684 404 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 547.9684 my neighborhood. 548.8855 405 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 548.8855 (pause 0.24) 549.1212 406 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 549.1212 Um, 549.5962 407 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 549.5962 (pause 0.17) 549.7676 408 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 549.7676 it were- it was things that were 551.6963 409 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 551.6963 (pause 0.42) 552.1142 410 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 552.1142 occurring in my neighborhood that 554.2705 411 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 554.2705 (pause 0.56) 554.8313 412 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 554.8313 I could see, 556.0349 413 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 556.0349 (pause 0.89) 556.9207 414 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 556.9207 but because of, uh, 558.5091 415 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 558.5091 (pause 0.40) 558.9127 416 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 558.9127 my parents, 559.6806 417 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 559.6806 (pause 0.64) 560.3235 418 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 560.3235 I didn't get a chance to 562.1129 419 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 562.1129 (pause 0.82) 562.9299 420 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 562.9299 become involved in it 564.1228 421 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 564.1228 (pause 0.21) 564.3335 422 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 564.3335 because they were- they were very much, 566.9479 423 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 566.9479 (pause 0.46) 567.4078 424 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 567.4078 uh, strict about, 568.7364 425 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 568.7364 (pause 0.66) 569.3971 426 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 569.3971 uh, 569.7007 427 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 569.7007 (pause 0.49) 570.1900 428 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 570.1900 what we did and, 571.4472 429 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 571.4472 (pause 0.12) 571.5642 430 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 571.5642 uh, 571.8714 431 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 571.8714 (pause 0.14) 572.0142 432 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 572.0142 where we went. 572.7321 433 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 572.7321 (pause 0.64) 573.3714 434 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 573.3714 And I- I really think that it was, 575.5823 435 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 575.5823 (pause 0.12) 575.6992 436 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 575.6992 uh, their oversight that really helped 578.6065 437 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 578.6065 (pause 0.53) 579.1351 438 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 579.1351 to 579.4815 439 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 579.4815 (pause 0.71) 580.1959 440 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 580.1959 you know, shape 580.9413 441 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 580.9413 (pause 0.24) 581.1772 442 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 581.1772 and mold me into the person that I became. 583.7253 443 VLD_int_01 586.0444 Who was your favorite- So let's go back to elementary school. So you went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 589.8088 444 VLD_int_01 589.8088 (pause 0.82) 590.6294 445 VLD_int_01 590.6294 Do you- do you have a f- did you have a favorite subject, or a favorite teacher, or a favorite memory? 594.6027 446 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 597.6467 Um, I- 598.9039 447 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 598.9039 (pause 0.15) 599.0566 448 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 599.0566 I, um, 599.9423 449 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 599.9423 (pause 0.73) 600.6702 450 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 600.6702 600.7522 451 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 600.7522 (pause 0.56) 601.3148 452 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 601.3148 pretty much liked everything at school. 603.3675 453 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 603.3675 (pause 0.21) 603.5773 454 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 603.5773 Um, 604.0559 455 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 604.0559 (pause 0.99) 605.0417 456 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 605.0417 as far as, uh, 606.5525 457 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 606.5525 (pause 0.18) 606.7346 458 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 606.7346 memories, um, there was, 609.0767 459 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 609.0767 (pause 1.18) 610.2553 460 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 610.2553 uh, at that time, 611.5911 461 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 611.5911 (pause 1.63) 613.2260 462 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 613.2260 you know it. We- we had a lot of fun at school. 615.7511 463 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 615.7511 (pause 0.24) 615.9940 464 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 615.9940 Because, you know, we 617.6539 465 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 617.6539 (pause 1.14) 618.7932 466 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 618.7932 actually 619.4754 467 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 619.4754 (pause 0.33) 619.8076 468 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 619.8076 enjoy learning. Um, I r- 621.8782 469 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 621.8782 (pause 0.52) 622.3997 470 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 622.3997 remember doing some things that, 624.7748 471 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 624.7748 (pause 0.75) 625.5248 472 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 625.5248 um, 626.2820 473 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 626.2820 (pause 0.57) 626.8526 474 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 626.8526 probably twenty-five, thirty years ago, 629.2535 475 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 629.2535 (pause 1.07) 630.3241 476 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 630.3241 that, 630.9135 477 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 630.9135 (pause 0.40) 631.3126 478 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 631.3126 um, 631.7876 479 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 631.7876 (pause 0.98) 632.7627 480 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 632.7627 would mirror some of the things that we do today. Um, 635.4128 481 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 635.4128 (pause 0.63) 636.0476 482 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 636.0476 we, 636.5155 483 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 636.5155 (pause 0.76) 637.2763 484 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 637.2763 would have, you know, 638.3799 485 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 638.3799 (pause 0.24) 638.6192 486 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 638.6192 themed parties, uh, when 640.7505 487 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 640.7505 (pause 0.54) 641.2863 488 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 641.2863 it was Dr. Seuss's birthday. We did all of those things. 644.5364 489 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 644.5364 (pause 0.48) 645.0141 490 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 645.0141 When we 645.7070 491 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 645.7070 (pause 0.62) 646.3285 492 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 646.3285 read Green Eggs and Ham in kindergarten, we had green eggs and ham. 650.2671 493 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 650.2671 (pause 0.74) 651.0064 494 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 651.0064 When, 651.6278 495 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 651.6278 (pause 0.38) 652.0100 496 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 652.0100 it 652.2529 497 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 652.2529 (pause 0.16) 652.4136 498 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 652.4136 was 653.0386 499 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 653.0386 (pause 0.51) 653.5494 500 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 653.5494 St. Patricks Day, 654.8057 501 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 654.8057 (pause 0.68) 655.4878 502 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 655.4878 we had the leprechaun to turn everything over in the room and I- it's just all types of things. And when we had birthdays, 661.5587 503 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 661.5587 (pause 0.78) 662.3373 504 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 662.3373 in our classrooms we 663.7757 505 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 663.7757 (pause 0.49) 664.2615 506 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 664.2615 had parties at school. We had a party for 666.7902 507 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 666.7902 (pause 0.92) 667.7116 508 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 667.7116 all of the holidays. 669.1572 509 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 669.1572 (pause 0.62) 669.7787 510 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 669.7787 And that's something now that we don't do because we have so many people that will say 674.3102 511 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 674.3102 (pause 0.47) 674.7780 512 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 674.7780 you know, 675.3066 513 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 675.3066 (pause 0.19) 675.4959 514 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 675.4959 it's celebrating Christmas offends me, or 677.6237 515 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 677.6237 (pause 0.25) 677.8773 516 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 677.8773 celebrating Halloween offends me, or 680.4310 517 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 680.4310 (pause 0.29) 680.7203 518 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 680.7203 I'm offended by this, or I don't think we should do that. 683.7231 519 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 683.7231 (pause 0.53) 684.2553 520 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 684.2553 School was a whole lot simpler. And it was a lot of fun. 687.4260 521 VLD_int_01 688.9760 Mm. 689.1903 522 VLD_int_01 689.1903 (pause 1.23) 690.4217 523 VLD_int_01 690.4217 What about- So /??/ when- that was kin- that was- So what about /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 694.4147 524 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 696.7746 /RD-SCHOOL-3/, uh, was, um, 699.6176 525 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 699.6176 (pause 0.43) 700.0525 526 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 700.0525 it was more of the same. Um, I had some 702.6169 527 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 702.6169 (pause 0.77) 703.3848 528 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 703.3848 very good teachers. 704.7563 529 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 704.7563 (pause 0.30) 705.0554 530 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 705.0554 Um, 705.6626 531 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 705.6626 (pause 1.54) 707.1983 532 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 707.1983 had a- 707.9162 533 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 707.9162 (pause 0.28) 708.1984 534 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 708.1984 uh, a lot of 709.4092 535 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 709.4092 (pause 0.33) 709.7440 536 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 709.7440 people who 710.6690 537 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 710.6690 (pause 1.20) 711.8691 538 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 711.8691 really, uh, were 713.2120 539 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 713.2120 (pause 0.87) 714.0790 540 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 714.0790 all about the students. They 715.7184 541 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 715.7184 (pause 0.30) 716.0220 542 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 716.0220 pushed everyone to do 717.3077 543 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 717.3077 (pause 0.61) 717.9212 544 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 717.9212 you know, their very best. And that's not to say that any of the other schools did not do that, 722.6178 545 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 722.6178 (pause 0.76) 723.3777 546 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 723.3777 but 723.7241 547 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 723.7241 (pause 0.24) 723.9634 548 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 723.9634 uh, I can only speak about the schools that I attended. 727.4207 549 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 727.4207 (pause 0.65) 728.0663 550 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 728.0663 And, 728.3913 551 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 728.3913 (pause 0.33) 728.7235 552 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 728.7235 um, you know. I- I- I pretty had, uh, a- a very 731.7236 553 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 731.7236 (pause 0.75) 732.4763 554 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 732.4763 um, good 733.2442 555 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 733.2442 (pause 1.61) 734.8514 556 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 734.8514 time in elementary school. You know, up to sixth grade. 738.3364 557 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 738.3364 (pause 0.71) 739.0436 558 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 739.0436 At, 739.2472 559 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 739.2472 (pause 0.21) 739.4543 560 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 739.4543 uh, /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 740.5615 561 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 740.5615 (pause 0.16) 740.7223 562 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 740.7223 Um, we 741.5151 563 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 741.5151 (pause 0.25) 741.7607 564 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 741.7607 took field trips a lot of times that would, 744.1894 565 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 744.1894 (pause 0.84) 745.0287 566 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 745.0287 allow us to not only 746.6958 567 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 746.6958 (pause 1.04) 747.7347 568 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 747.7347 learn about what we were learning in the classroom, but if there was somewhere in the community, or somewhere 753.2372 569 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 753.2372 (pause 0.44) 753.6809 570 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 753.6809 close by that we could go on a field trip and actually do some hands on things, 757.5838 571 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 757.5838 (pause 0.58) 758.1659 572 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 758.1659 uh, we did those things a lot. 759.7339 573 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 759.7339 (pause 0.17) 759.9044 574 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 759.9044 And so, 760.6295 575 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 760.6295 (pause 0.51) 761.1402 576 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 761.1402 it's 761.4616 577 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 761.4616 (pause 0.21) 761.6736 578 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 761.6736 it's someth- some things that 763.0796 579 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 763.0796 (pause 0.15) 763.2331 580 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 763.2331 you know, are- are memories that 764.6109 581 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 764.6109 (pause 0.67) 765.2824 582 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 765.2824 you know, as long as I live I'll 766.7396 583 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 766.7396 (pause 0.34) 767.0824 584 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 767.0824 probably never forget. 768.2611 585 VLD_int_01 768.9531 Give me one. 769.4352 586 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 770.0120 770.0863 587 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 770.0863 (pause 0.61) 770.6996 588 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 770.6996 Um, 771.4139 589 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 771.4139 (pause 0.19) 771.6032 590 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 771.6032 I- I remember, um, in sixth grade, 774.4203 591 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 774.4203 (pause 0.75) 775.1668 592 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 775.1668 uh, 775.5882 593 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 775.5882 (pause 0.15) 775.7418 594 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 775.7418 learning about 776.6990 595 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 776.6990 (pause 1.10) 777.7981 596 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 777.7981 the 778.1374 597 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 778.1374 (pause 0.18) 778.3160 598 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 778.3160 Medieval periods of, uh, time with the 781.2554 599 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 781.2554 (pause 0.81) 782.0626 600 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 782.0626 knights and jousting and, 784.3083 601 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 784.3083 (pause 0.36) 784.6690 602 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 784.6690 um, 785.2690 603 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 785.2690 (pause 0.89) 786.1583 604 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 786.1583 different things like that. And I remember that one of our trips, 790.3612 605 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 790.3612 (pause 0.45) 790.8077 606 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 790.8077 was to 791.7393 607 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 791.7393 (pause 0.63) 792.3679 608 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 792.3679 Orlando to Medieval Times. 794.9751 609 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 794.9751 (pause 0.46) 795.4394 610 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 795.4394 So that we could- 796.5099 611 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 796.5099 (pause 0.08) 796.5922 612 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 796.5922 m- 796.7529 613 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 796.7529 (pause 0.11) 796.8672 614 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 796.8672 uh, see, 797.8422 615 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 797.8422 (pause 1.45) 799.2887 616 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 799.2887 uh, a dinner show. 800.5816 617 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 800.5816 (pause 0.19) 800.7736 618 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 800.7736 Oh man, I remember going. And 803.5130 619 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 803.5130 (pause 0.69) 804.1988 620 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 804.1988 that was the- one of the first times that I've ever had, 806.9445 621 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 806.9445 (pause 0.96) 807.9052 622 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 807.9052 um, 808.3017 623 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 808.3017 (pause 0.23) 808.5267 624 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 808.5267 Cornish hen and I just thought 810.4759 625 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 810.4759 (pause 0.52) 810.9938 626 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 810.9938 that was the best thing in the world. Because I- you know, I came home and told my mom I had, 815.3824 627 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 815.3824 (pause 0.48) 815.8645 628 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 815.8645 uh, 816.2681 629 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 816.2681 (pause 0.32) 816.5896 630 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 816.5896 a chicken that was- 818.3861 631 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 818.3861 (pause 0.23) 818.6209 632 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 818.6209 that would fit in my hand and I- I didn't know, y- really the difference between a Cornish hen and a chicken. And, 824.2238 633 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 824.2238 (pause 0.69) 824.9132 634 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 824.9132 uh, I still don't cause they 826.3918 635 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 826.3918 (pause 0.40) 826.7954 636 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 826.7954 taste the same. 827.6811 637 VLD_int_01 828.3767 829.0053 638 VLD_int_01 829.0053 (pause 0.50) 829.5018 639 VLD_int_01 829.5018 Have you had Cornish hen since then? 830.9483 640 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 832.0305 No I- I haven't. 833.3511 641 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 833.3511 (pause 0.10) 833.4475 642 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 833.4475 Haven't had Cornish hen since then, but 835.6583 643 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 835.6583 (pause 0.75) 836.4048 644 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 836.4048 I- I mean you know, if I 837.9968 645 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 837.9968 (pause 0.35) 838.3468 646 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 838.3468 was offered some Cornish hen, I probably would take it. 841.6613 647 VLD_int_01 842.1818 843.6712 648 VLD_int_01 843.6712 (pause 0.80) 844.4748 649 VLD_int_01 844.4748 So what- So you were in- 845.7320 650 VLD_int_01 845.7320 (pause 0.61) 846.3463 651 VLD_int_01 846.3463 So your grade, cause I was a grade under you. So my sch- I was the one who actually started 851.2028 652 VLD_int_01 851.2028 (pause 0.44) 851.6412 653 VLD_int_01 851.6412 middle school at sixth grade. So you started- You went to middle school at seventh grade. 855.6307 654 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 856.0298 Yes. 856.4370 655 VLD_int_01 857.4192 So, 857.8406 656 VLD_int_01 857.8406 (pause 1.14) 858.9764 657 VLD_int_01 858.9764 how was it going to the new school as a seventh grader? 862.2364 658 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 865.1035 Well 865.6118 659 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 865.6118 (pause 1.19) 866.8000 660 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 866.8000 it- 866.9571 661 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 866.9571 (pause 0.21) 867.1679 662 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 867.1679 it wasn't new, 868.1358 663 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 868.1358 (pause 0.50) 868.6393 664 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 868.6393 uh, because, you know 870.0420 665 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 870.0420 (pause 0.47) 870.5100 666 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 870.5100 w- 870.7207 667 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 870.7207 (pause 0.14) 870.8636 668 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 870.8636 w- They just changed the name from /RD-SCHOOL-6/ to 874.1637 669 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 874.1637 (pause 0.64) 874.8057 670 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 874.8057 /RD-SCHOOL-5/. 875.7165 671 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 875.7165 (pause 0.48) 876.1915 672 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 876.1915 And it wasn't any different for me, 878.3952 673 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 878.3952 (pause 0.48) 878.8800 674 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 878.8800 because 879.6051 675 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 879.6051 (pause 0.34) 879.9408 676 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 879.9408 I- 880.2801 677 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 880.2801 (pause 0.28) 880.5551 678 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 880.5551 I was going- 881.5016 679 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 881.5016 (pause 0.28) 881.7802 680 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 881.7802 I was going there anyway if they had not changed, um, 885.0973 681 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 885.0973 (pause 1.01) 886.1045 682 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 886.1045 to the middle school concept because 888.1438 683 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 888.1438 (pause 0.18) 888.3287 684 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 888.3287 they changed to middle school, 890.3359 685 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 890.3359 (pause 0.45) 890.7824 686 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 890.7824 as I was going to seventh grade, so what actually happened, 893.4780 687 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 893.4780 (pause 0.56) 894.0423 688 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 894.0423 is that 894.7281 689 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 894.7281 (pause 1.70) 896.4282 690 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 896.4282 the 896.7103 691 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 896.7103 (pause 0.61) 897.3166 692 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 897.3166 fifth and sixth grade classes at 899.4881 693 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 899.4881 (pause 0.93) 900.4221 694 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 900.4221 /RD-SCHOOL-3/ 901.2542 695 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 901.2542 (pause 0.44) 901.6990 696 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 901.6990 all left. 902.5445 697 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 902.5445 (pause 0.26) 902.8053 698 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 902.8053 And they got 903.3374 699 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 903.3374 (pause 0.28) 903.6196 700 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 903.6196 two totally new groups. 905.0839 701 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 905.0839 (pause 0.39) 905.4768 702 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 905.4768 That next year. 906.3519 703 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 906.3519 (pause 0.64) 906.9939 704 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 906.9939 So, uh, it wasn't that much of a change for me. It was 909.9083 705 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 909.9083 (pause 0.65) 910.5583 706 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 910.5583 somewhat of a change, because you went from having two academic teachers to having four. 915.0862 707 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 915.0862 (pause 0.66) 915.7505 708 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 915.7505 And having some freedom to 917.6819 709 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 917.6819 (pause 1.27) 918.9533 710 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 918.9533 walk down the hallway by yourself. And 921.6740 711 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 921.6740 (pause 0.80) 922.4776 712 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 922.4776 pass notes. 923.7848 713 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 923.7848 (pause 0.22) 924.0027 714 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 924.0027 And get notes. And 925.7269 715 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 925.7269 (pause 1.44) 927.1662 716 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 927.1662 do all types of things that other people did that I didn't do. 930.8727 717 VLD_int_01 933.9621 Uh, okay. 934.6648 718 VLD_int_01 934.6648 (pause 1.42) 936.0863 719 VLD_int_01 936.0863 That's how that goes. 937.0685 720 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 937.7721 /And/ that's exactly how that goes. 939.6642 721 VLD_int_01 940.7106 Right. 941.1214 722 VLD_int_01 941.1214 (pause 0.20) 941.3250 723 VLD_int_01 941.3250 941.9035 724 VLD_int_01 941.9035 (pause 0.29) 942.1964 725 VLD_int_01 942.1964 942.2821 726 VLD_int_01 942.2821 (pause 0.29) 942.5750 727 VLD_int_01 942.5750 So what was your fondest memory in middle school? 944.6492 728 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 950.2164 My fondest memory in middle school, 952.1094 729 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 952.1094 (pause 1.31) 953.4193 730 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 953.4193 let me- let me think. 954.8833 731 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 954.8833 (pause 7.21) 962.0929 732 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 962.0929 Middle school, 962.8429 733 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 962.8429 (pause 0.30) 963.1465 734 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 963.1465 um, I- I think that 964.7287 735 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 964.7287 (pause 1.67) 966.4029 736 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 966.4029 middle school was 967.9780 737 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 967.9780 (pause 0.41) 968.3923 738 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 968.3923 the- the best thing about middle school was, 970.9960 739 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 970.9960 (pause 0.22) 971.2201 740 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 971.2201 um, probably 972.3988 741 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 972.3988 (pause 0.95) 973.3488 742 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 973.3488 getting to meet, 974.2095 743 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 974.2095 (pause 1.03) 975.2373 744 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 975.2373 um, a lot of people 976.7195 745 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 976.7195 (pause 1.09) 977.8124 746 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 977.8124 that 978.0231 747 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 978.0231 (pause 0.24) 978.2660 748 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 978.2660 I wouldn't 978.7874 749 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 978.7874 (pause 0.10) 978.8910 750 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 978.8910 that- that I hadn't met before. 980.4629 751 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 980.4629 (pause 0.11) 980.5751 752 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 980.5751 Because going to- 982.2296 753 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 982.2296 (pause 0.93) 983.1582 754 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 983.1582 excuse me. 984.4038 755 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 984.4038 (pause 0.10) 984.5002 756 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 984.5002 Going to 985.5043 757 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 985.5043 (pause 3.71) 989.2174 758 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 989.2174 um, 989.7817 759 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 989.7817 (pause 0.21) 989.9924 760 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 989.9924 middle school, 990.8425 761 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 990.8425 (pause 0.98) 991.8247 762 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 991.8247 from elementary, 992.8176 763 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 992.8176 (pause 1.12) 993.9382 764 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 993.9382 brought a lot of people 995.4740 765 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 995.4740 (pause 0.25) 995.7275 766 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 995.7275 from the other elementary schools 997.6348 767 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 997.6348 (pause 0.49) 998.1205 768 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 998.1205 to, 998.5527 769 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 998.5527 (pause 1.46) 1000.0161 770 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1000.0161 um, /RD-SCHOOL-6/ 1001.5698 771 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1001.5698 (pause 0.19) 1001.7626 772 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1001.7626 at the same time. So it was 1003.5940 773 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1003.5940 (pause 2.29) 1005.8870 774 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1005.8870 a change, because I was accustomed to 1009.0969 775 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1009.0969 (pause 0.81) 1009.9077 776 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1009.9077 the 1010.3577 777 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1010.3577 (pause 1.43) 1011.7890 778 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1011.7890 other children that I had gone to school with from kindergarten. 1015.2285 779 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1015.2285 (pause 0.59) 1015.8142 780 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1015.8142 But when we started seventh grade, 1017.3991 781 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1017.3991 (pause 0.26) 1017.6598 782 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1017.6598 not only did I have 1018.9170 783 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1018.9170 (pause 0.59) 1019.5063 784 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1019.5063 those, 1020.4778 785 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1020.4778 (pause 0.62) 1021.0948 786 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1021.0948 I had 1021.6484 787 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1021.6484 (pause 0.23) 1021.8770 788 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1021.8770 many more. And so, 1023.3056 789 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1023.3056 (pause 0.40) 1023.7021 790 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1023.7021 uh, most of the time, um, 1025.3343 791 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1025.3343 (pause 1.32) 1026.6585 792 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1026.6585 most of my fondest memories probably happened 1028.9050 793 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1028.9050 (pause 0.64) 1029.5479 794 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1029.5479 in the gym 1030.2551 795 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1030.2551 (pause 0.19) 1030.4471 796 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1030.4471 where, uh, a lot of, 1032.3364 797 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1032.3364 (pause 1.08) 1033.4115 798 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1033.4115 um, 1033.9579 799 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1033.9579 (pause 1.39) 1035.3464 800 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1035.3464 basketball games. 1036.9500 801 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1036.9500 (pause 0.23) 1037.1750 802 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1037.1750 or- 1037.5822 803 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1037.5822 (pause 0.18) 1037.7644 804 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1037.7644 when we were outside, 1038.8251 805 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1038.8251 (pause 0.64) 1039.4636 806 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1039.4636 baseball games 1040.6958 807 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1040.6958 (pause 0.48) 1041.1743 808 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1041.1743 got 1041.3815 809 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1041.3815 (pause 0.21) 1041.5958 810 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1041.5958 rather intense. And so we- we always looked forward to 1045.2451 811 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1045.2451 (pause 0.56) 1045.8058 812 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1045.8058 going to PE. 1046.7416 813 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1046.7416 (pause 0.94) 1047.6809 814 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1047.6809 And, you know. Sometimes on m- on my way to PE, I would run into people that I wouldn't see, 1052.0088 815 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1052.0088 (pause 0.88) 1052.8838 816 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1052.8838 uh, during the day. 1053.9901 817 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1053.9901 (pause 0.79) 1054.7759 818 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1054.7759 And that was, uh, 1055.8188 819 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1055.8188 (pause 0.20) 1056.0152 820 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1056.0152 time to 1056.7081 821 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1056.7081 (pause 0.34) 1057.0510 822 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1057.0510 socialize, because there were no 1059.2574 823 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1059.2574 (pause 0.65) 1059.9074 824 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1059.9074 teachers walking you everywhere. 1061.4539 825 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1061.4539 (pause 0.11) 1061.5682 826 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1061.5682 So ther- that was social time. And I think that's probably what 1064.5031 827 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1064.5031 (pause 0.54) 1065.0424 828 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1065.0424 my fondest memory of 1066.1746 829 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1066.1746 (pause 0.13) 1066.2996 830 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1066.2996 middle school was, was that. 1068.0310 831 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1068.0310 (pause 0.52) 1068.5489 832 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1068.5489 We had so much time to be social. 1070.1525 833 VLD_int_01 1070.8525 Did you play sports? 1071.8204 834 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1071.9303 I did not. 1072.4339 835 VLD_int_01 1073.3553 Wel- well di- were you just like this academic person? did you- were you involved in stuff? 1078.0868 836 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1078.8654 I 1079.4547 837 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1079.4547 (pause 0.78) 1080.2333 838 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1080.2333 sang, uh, 1081.4575 839 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1081.4575 (pause 0.19) 1081.6504 840 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1081.6504 in- 1081.9004 841 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1081.9004 (pause 0.25) 1082.1468 842 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1082.1468 in the [chorus.] 1083.1183 843 VLD_int_01 1082.5397 [chorus.] 1083.0504 844 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1083.8541 And, 1084.5362 845 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1084.5362 (pause 0.19) 1084.7219 846 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1084.7219 uh, that was pretty much it. Because I- I really wasn't, um, 1088.4355 847 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1088.4355 (pause 2.65) 1091.0812 848 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1091.0812 I wasn't really into sports. Uh, I did, um, 1094.2385 849 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1094.2385 (pause 1.06) 1095.2948 850 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1095.2948 liked to play basketball, but 1097.0199 851 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1097.0199 (pause 0.27) 1097.2913 852 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1097.2913 I didn't have 1098.1949 853 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1098.1949 (pause 0.68) 1098.8771 854 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1098.8771 the time, 1099.5771 855 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1099.5771 (pause 0.22) 1099.7977 856 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1099.7977 or the interest in commuting to 1102.2118 857 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1102.2118 (pause 0.39) 1102.6014 858 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1102.6014 playing basketball on the team. I just liked to play, 1105.5685 859 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1105.5685 (pause 0.74) 1106.3114 860 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1106.3114 um, 1106.7150 861 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1106.7150 (pause 0.66) 1107.3793 862 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1107.3793 m- pick-up games. And so I was never one of those people that 1110.4000 863 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1110.4000 (pause 0.56) 1110.9607 864 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1110.9607 just needed to be on the team. But I- I enjoyed 1113.7378 865 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1113.7378 (pause 0.19) 1113.9314 866 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1113.9314 playing basketball. And softball too. 1116.3279 867 VLD_int_01 1117.9771 When did we meet? 1118.6771 868 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1120.1915 I think 1121.0165 869 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1121.0165 (pause 0.34) 1121.3558 870 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1121.3558 we met 1121.9951 871 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1121.9951 (pause 2.84) 1124.8373 872 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1124.8373 well we met at /RD-SCHOOL-6/. And I 1127.1659 873 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1127.1659 (pause 0.22) 1127.3901 874 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1127.3901 w- 1127.5401 875 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1127.5401 (pause 0.79) 1128.3258 876 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1128.3258 would venture to say, 1129.7080 877 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1129.7080 (pause 0.25) 1129.9580 878 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1129.9580 that 1130.5795 879 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1130.5795 (pause 2.08) 1132.6608 880 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1132.6608 I think it was 1133.6680 881 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1133.6680 (pause 0.19) 1133.8538 882 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1133.8538 the year that I was in eighth grade, and you were in seventh. 1136.9244 883 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1136.9244 (pause 0.23) 1137.1530 884 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1137.1530 And, 1137.7780 885 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1137.7780 (pause 0.77) 1138.5495 886 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1138.5495 uh, I think that's h- that's how we, uh, ran into each other, uh, through 1142.2774 887 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1142.2774 (pause 0.68) 1142.9560 888 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1142.9560 a mutual friend. 1144.0060 889 VLD_int_01 1145.5659 Hm. 1145.8195 890 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1146.9624 /inaudible/. 1148.4232 891 VLD_int_01 1151.5046 Hm. 1151.7582 892 VLD_int_01 1151.7582 (pause 0.26) 1152.0189 893 VLD_int_01 1152.0189 I don't- mkay. 1152.8689 894 VLD_int_01 1152.8689 (pause 0.81) 1153.6833 895 VLD_int_01 1153.6833 You don't wanna say more than that? 1154.6833 896 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1157.6790 I don't think so. 1158.9791 897 VLD_int_01 1159.0755 Okay. 1159.4318 898 VLD_int_01 1159.4318 (pause 1.15) 1160.5854 899 VLD_int_01 1160.5854 Alright. 1160.9604 900 VLD_int_01 1160.9604 (pause 0.31) 1161.2747 901 VLD_int_01 1161.2747 So let's go to high school. 1162.5605 902 VLD_int_01 1162.5605 (pause 2.10) 1164.6561 903 VLD_int_01 1164.6561 Tell me about high school a little bit. 1165.9990 904 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1167.9625 High school, 1169.1340 905 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1169.1340 (pause 0.27) 1169.4019 906 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1169.4019 was 1170.5162 907 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1170.5162 (pause 3.37) 1173.8833 908 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1173.8833 a- probably about 1174.8941 909 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1174.8941 (pause 0.75) 1175.6406 910 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1175.6406 a hundred times more social. 1177.3906 911 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1177.3906 (pause 0.83) 1178.2255 912 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1178.2255 Because, again, 1179.5113 913 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1179.5113 (pause 0.81) 1180.3256 914 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1180.3256 uh, 1180.9006 915 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1180.9006 (pause 0.24) 1181.1364 916 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1181.1364 I 1181.6292 917 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1181.6292 (pause 0.47) 1182.0962 918 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1182.0962 had spent 1182.6927 919 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1182.6927 (pause 0.35) 1183.0391 920 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1183.0391 two years 1184.0678 921 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1184.0678 (pause 0.65) 1184.7142 922 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1184.7142 at /RD-SCHOOL-6/. 1186.2714 923 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1186.2714 (pause 1.18) 1187.4527 924 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1187.4527 And got to know a whole lot of new people, 1189.4314 925 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1189.4314 (pause 0.48) 1189.9136 926 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1189.9136 but when we went to high school, 1191.5422 927 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1191.5422 (pause 1.22) 1192.7664 928 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1192.7664 I met everybody else that- that I would ever 1195.1558 929 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1195.1558 (pause 0.19) 1195.3451 930 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1195.3451 come to know because 1196.8871 931 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1196.8871 (pause 0.80) 1197.6836 932 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1197.6836 the students who 1199.4944 933 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1199.4944 (pause 0.94) 1200.4301 934 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1200.4301 went to, uh, Southeast when I was at /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 1203.9830 935 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1203.9830 (pause 0.36) 1204.3437 936 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1204.3437 And went to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ while I was at /RD-SCHOOL-6/, 1207.1894 937 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1207.1894 (pause 0.86) 1208.0501 938 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1208.0501 they showed up 1208.7859 939 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1208.7859 (pause 0.26) 1209.0502 940 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1209.0502 on the first day of ninth grade 1210.6744 941 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1210.6744 (pause 0.60) 1211.2744 942 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1211.2744 at /RD-SCHOOL-5/. And 1213.2245 943 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1213.2245 (pause 0.72) 1213.9415 944 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1213.9415 it was just great. 1214.7594 945 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1214.7594 (pause 0.17) 1214.9308 946 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1214.9308 Um, 1215.4344 947 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1215.4344 (pause 3.03) 1218.4631 948 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1218.4631 the classes were, uh, challenging, 1220.6659 949 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1220.6659 (pause 0.20) 1220.8695 950 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1220.8695 uh, more so than they had ever been. 1223.1625 951 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1223.1625 (pause 2.31) 1225.4768 952 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1225.4768 But I think that, um, as far as high school went, 1228.3645 953 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1228.3645 (pause 0.17) 1228.5324 954 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1228.5324 it at least- 1229.4788 955 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1229.4788 (pause 0.41) 1229.8931 956 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1229.8931 my freshman year was, uh, it was- it was fun. And I- I think 1234.7246 957 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1234.7246 (pause 0.60) 1235.3282 958 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1235.3282 that, 1235.6961 959 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1235.6961 (pause 0.41) 1236.1033 960 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1236.1033 uh, a lot of the memories that I 1238.5453 961 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1238.5453 (pause 0.82) 1239.3668 962 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1239.3668 had from ninth grade, 1240.8669 963 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1240.8669 (pause 0.66) 1241.5312 964 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1241.5312 uh, wa- 1242.1348 965 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1242.1348 (pause 0.18) 1242.3196 966 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1242.3196 was because of the fact that many of us, um, just 1245.8091 967 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1245.8091 (pause 0.34) 1246.1484 968 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1246.1484 sought to make the best out of a 1247.8869 969 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1247.8869 (pause 1.68) 1249.5655 970 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1249.5655 somewhat bad situation because we had some 1252.4826 971 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1252.4826 (pause 1.35) 1253.8362 972 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1253.8362 personnel issues that were not- 1256.2640 973 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1256.2640 (pause 0.33) 1256.5926 974 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1256.5926 that did not involve the students. But 1258.5927 975 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1258.5927 (pause 1.15) 1259.7428 976 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1259.7428 the disagreements, 1261.2492 977 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1261.2492 (pause 0.18) 1261.4331 978 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1261.4331 uh, had a profound effect on the students. And 1264.4512 979 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1264.4512 (pause 0.67) 1265.1198 980 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1265.1198 that's 1265.5163 981 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1265.5163 (pause 0.32) 1265.8377 982 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1265.8377 something that, uh, I- I've learned. 1268.3450 983 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1268.3450 (pause 0.61) 1268.9521 984 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1268.9521 Uh, from that day to this one, that when 1271.6049 985 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1271.6049 (pause 0.54) 1272.1407 986 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1272.1407 adults have issues that they 1274.1658 987 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1274.1658 (pause 0.38) 1274.5506 988 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1274.5506 should resolve their issues. And don't let 1276.2614 989 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1276.2614 (pause 0.14) 1276.4007 990 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1276.4007 their issues become issues for, 1278.6142 991 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1278.6142 (pause 0.89) 1279.5071 992 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1279.5071 uh, the students that they serve. 1281.1965 993 VLD_int_01 1282.8930 /They were/ 1283.1609 994 VLD_int_01 1283.1609 (pause 0.46) 1283.6207 995 VLD_int_01 1283.6207 like teachers? 1284.5279 996 VLD_int_01 1284.5279 (pause 0.30) 1284.8315 997 VLD_int_01 1284.8315 Administrators? 1285.6887 998 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1285.7244 No, um, it was 1287.8173 999 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1287.8173 (pause 1.86) 1289.6737 1000 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1289.6737 the superintendent 1291.0202 1001 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1291.0202 (pause 0.21) 1291.2292 1002 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1291.2292 and 1291.7523 1003 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1291.7523 (pause 1.32) 1293.0694 1004 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1293.0694 the high school principal. 1294.3301 1005 VLD_int_01 1297.5687 Mm-mm. 1298.4080 1006 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1298.6687 /Yup/. (whispered) 1299.2152 1007 VLD_int_01 1301.3537 This was before /RD-NAME-2/. 1302.3537 1008 VLD_int_01 1302.3537 (pause 0.48) 1302.8288 1009 VLD_int_01 1302.8288 who [was right before] /RD-NAME-2/? 1303.8431 1010 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1302.9573 [Yes.] 1303.4574 1011 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1304.0645 Mr. /RD-NAME-2/. [He was- he wa- he] was there my ninth grade year. 1307.8781 1012 VLD_int_01 1304.9253 [/RD-NAME-2/. That's right.] 1305.9685 1013 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1308.5781 And 1309.1567 1014 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1309.1567 (pause 0.97) 1310.1282 1015 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1310.1282 it was s- something that, 1311.9560 1016 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1311.9560 (pause 1.52) 1313.4775 1017 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1313.4775 or, what- what- what ended up, 1316.0589 1018 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1316.0589 (pause 0.16) 1316.2231 1019 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1316.2231 being 1316.9125 1020 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1316.9125 (pause 1.27) 1318.1839 1021 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1318.1839 the quote unquote 1318.9268 1022 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1318.9268 (pause 0.36) 1319.2876 1023 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1319.2876 issue 1319.9662 1024 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1319.9662 (pause 0.47) 1320.4332 1025 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1320.4332 was something that had to do 1322.2440 1026 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1322.2440 (pause 0.57) 1322.8144 1027 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1322.8144 with dress code. 1323.7967 1028 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1323.7967 (pause 0.79) 1324.5896 1029 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1324.5896 A disagreement that became public, between he 1327.6540 1030 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1327.6540 (pause 0.57) 1328.2255 1031 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1328.2255 and the superintendent at the time. 1329.9533 1032 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1329.9533 (pause 1.20) 1331.1569 1033 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1331.1569 Um, 1331.6891 1034 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1331.6891 (pause 0.30) 1331.9891 1035 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1331.9891 /RD-NAME-4/, who 1333.4249 1036 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1333.4249 (pause 1.34) 1334.7633 1037 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1334.7633 at last, 1335.8241 1038 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1335.8241 (pause 0.24) 1336.0598 1039 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1336.0598 of my knowledge, was, 1338.2242 1040 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1338.2242 (pause 1.30) 1339.5234 1041 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1339.5234 um, 1340.1662 1042 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1340.1662 (pause 0.94) 1341.1091 1043 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1341.1091 he was a- he's in charge of 1343.2001 1044 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1343.2001 (pause 0.19) 1343.3905 1045 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1343.3905 the /RD-WORK-8/ Commission. 1345.6692 1046 VLD_int_01 1346.1406 Oh, hm. 1346.7407 1047 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1346.9228 So he, uh, oversees all of the certifications for, 1351.1936 1048 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1351.1936 (pause 0.56) 1351.7507 1049 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1351.7507 uh, 1352.0114 1050 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1352.0114 (pause 0.10) 1352.1070 1051 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1352.1070 educators, uh, 1353.0535 1052 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1353.0535 (pause 0.29) 1353.3463 1053 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1353.3463 at this time. 1354.2821 1054 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1354.2821 (pause 0.79) 1355.0750 1055 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1355.0750 But at that time he was, 1356.5572 1056 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1356.5572 (pause 0.27) 1356.8278 1057 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1356.8278 uh, 1357.0278 1058 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1357.0278 (pause 0.11) 1357.1421 1059 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1357.1421 in Valdosta and he 1359.0457 1060 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1359.0457 (pause 1.18) 1360.2208 1061 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1360.2208 brought some changes, uh, 1361.9128 1062 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1361.9128 (pause 0.91) 1362.8271 1063 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1362.8271 that were- 1363.5093 1064 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1363.5093 (pause 0.81) 1364.3201 1065 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1364.3201 that he thought was innovative. And they may have been. 1367.8259 1066 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1367.8259 (pause 0.53) 1368.3551 1067 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1368.3551 But, 1368.7551 1068 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1368.7551 (pause 0.26) 1369.0194 1069 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1369.0194 um, 1369.4087 1070 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1369.4087 (pause 0.17) 1369.5766 1071 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1369.5766 a lot of his, uh, 1370.8088 1072 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1370.8088 (pause 0.22) 1371.0258 1073 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1371.0258 policies 1371.7115 1074 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1371.7115 (pause 0.33) 1372.0437 1075 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1372.0437 were not popular with 1373.4723 1076 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1373.4723 (pause 1.21) 1374.6866 1077 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1374.6866 the, 1375.0259 1078 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1375.0259 (pause 0.19) 1375.2179 1079 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1375.2179 uh, 1375.8215 1080 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1375.8215 (pause 1.02) 1376.8394 1081 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1376.8394 administration and the staff at 1378.6609 1082 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1378.6609 (pause 0.26) 1378.9181 1083 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1378.9181 /RD-SCHOOL-5/. And 1380.7209 1084 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1380.7209 (pause 1.14) 1381.8566 1085 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1381.8566 the students were 1382.8710 1086 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1382.8710 (pause 0.53) 1383.3996 1087 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1383.3996 in between. 1384.0853 1088 VLD_int_01 1385.2809 Mm. 1385.5845 1089 VLD_int_01 1385.5845 (pause 2.75) 1388.3346 1090 VLD_int_01 1388.3346 Did you have a favorite subject in high school? 1389.8802 1091 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1390.8303 My favorite subject in high school was probably, 1393.5768 1092 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1393.5768 (pause 0.35) 1393.9224 1093 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1393.9224 um, history. Uh, I 1395.9010 1094 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1395.9010 (pause 1.15) 1397.0475 1095 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1397.0475 ran into 1398.0833 1096 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1398.0833 (pause 0.30) 1398.3860 1097 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1398.3860 my, um, 1399.3182 1098 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1399.3182 (pause 0.66) 1399.9753 1099 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1399.9753 world history teacher about 1401.4290 1100 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1401.4290 (pause 0.66) 1402.0897 1101 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1402.0897 a month ago. And 1403.2853 1102 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1403.2853 (pause 0.72) 1404.0068 1103 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1404.0068 everything that he ever taught me, I- I never forgot. 1406.7533 1104 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1406.7533 (pause 1.02) 1407.7775 1105 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1407.7775 And he was probably my favorite teacher in high school. 1410.9312 1106 VLD_int_01 1411.1027 Who? 1411.3455 1107 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1411.7589 Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ 1412.6411 1108 VLD_int_01 1413.5626 [Hm.] 1414.1055 1109 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1414.0019 [Yeah.] 1414.3341 1110 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1414.4555 He ga- he gave me candy every week. 1416.7235 1111 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1416.7235 (pause 0.22) 1416.9476 1112 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1416.9476 And the- but that was not why he was 1419.2013 1113 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1419.2013 (pause 0.66) 1419.8656 1114 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1419.8656 my favorite teacher, uh, I 1421.7683 1115 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1421.7683 (pause 0.27) 1422.0362 1116 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1422.0362 vividly remember, um, 1423.8506 1117 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1423.8506 (pause 1.78) 1425.6319 1118 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1425.6319 he had a practice that would probably get 1427.8642 1119 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1427.8642 (pause 0.88) 1428.7428 1120 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1428.7428 him fired, 1429.4785 1121 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1429.4785 (pause 0.62) 1430.0955 1122 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1430.0955 if he was working today. 1431.4777 1123 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1431.4777 (pause 2.79) 1434.2671 1124 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1434.2671 Because he 1435.3270 1125 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1435.3270 (pause 1.47) 1436.7985 1126 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1436.7985 arranged his classroom 1438.2807 1127 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1438.2807 (pause 1.76) 1440.0406 1128 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1440.0406 in such a way, that the students who perform well, 1443.7551 1129 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1443.7551 (pause 0.63) 1444.3900 1130 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1444.3900 on the assessments, 1445.7293 1131 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1445.7293 (pause 0.96) 1446.6865 1132 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1446.6865 were sitting in the front of the classroom. 1448.9152 1133 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1448.9152 (pause 1.18) 1450.0965 1134 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1450.0965 And those who didn't do so well, 1451.9144 1135 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1451.9144 (pause 0.48) 1452.3930 1136 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1452.3930 were sitting in the back. 1453.6966 1137 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1453.6966 (pause 2.79) 1456.4839 1138 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1456.4839 And I understood his method because he 1459.6987 1139 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1459.6987 (pause 0.43) 1460.1273 1140 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1460.1273 wanted to be sure that those, 1462.2024 1141 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1462.2024 (pause 0.43) 1462.6301 1142 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1462.6301 that wanted to learn 1463.9016 1143 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1463.9016 (pause 1.99) 1465.8945 1144 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1465.8945 were in a place where they could 1467.7223 1145 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1467.7223 (pause 1.50) 1469.2188 1146 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1469.2188 learn what they need to learn. And those who were just coming because 1473.1538 1147 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1473.1538 (pause 1.59) 1474.7396 1148 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1474.7396 they were not old enough to drop out. 1476.3754 1149 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1476.3754 (pause 0.32) 1476.6960 1150 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1476.6960 And they were not interested. 1477.9924 1151 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1477.9924 (pause 0.46) 1478.4496 1152 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1478.4496 They sat in the back. 1479.7818 1153 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1479.7818 (pause 0.37) 1480.1533 1154 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1480.1533 Um, but 1480.9783 1155 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1480.9783 (pause 0.26) 1481.2381 1156 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1481.2381 actually one of the 1482.4668 1157 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1482.4668 (pause 0.64) 1483.1025 1158 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1483.1025 most profound things that, 1484.7776 1159 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1484.7776 (pause 0.27) 1485.0455 1160 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1485.0455 uh, 1485.7133 1161 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1485.7133 (pause 1.32) 1487.0339 1162 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1487.0339 1487.0875 1163 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1487.0875 (pause 0.15) 1487.2340 1164 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1487.2340 I got from Mr. /RD-NAME-1/ was actually 1489.4662 1165 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1489.4662 (pause 0.89) 1490.3582 1166 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1490.3582 one day when he scolded me. 1491.9261 1167 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1491.9261 (pause 1.30) 1493.2226 1168 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1493.2226 Um, because usually, 1495.3218 1169 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1495.3218 (pause 1.75) 1497.0719 1170 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1497.0719 my performance on assessments was 1500.3819 1171 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1500.3819 (pause 1.38) 1501.7605 1172 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1501.7605 better than anybody else's. 1503.5106 1173 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1503.5106 (pause 1.04) 1504.5491 1174 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1504.5491 1504.6205 1175 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1504.6205 (pause 0.33) 1504.9527 1176 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1504.9527 And I remember one- 1506.4134 1177 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1506.4134 (pause 0.27) 1506.6849 1178 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1506.6849 one day, 1507.5028 1179 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1507.5028 (pause 1.93) 1509.4377 1180 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1509.4377 we took a test. And the next day when we came in, 1512.7486 1181 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1512.7486 (pause 0.66) 1513.4084 1182 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1513.4084 to find out the results 1515.1281 1183 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1515.1281 (pause 0.21) 1515.3344 1184 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1515.3344 of our test grades, 1516.7693 1185 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1516.7693 (pause 1.20) 1517.9685 1186 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1517.9685 if I'm not mistaken there were 1519.8793 1187 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1519.8793 (pause 1.59) 1521.4650 1188 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1521.4650 two other students 1522.7678 1189 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1522.7678 (pause 0.51) 1523.2821 1190 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1523.2821 who scored better than I did. 1524.9715 1191 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1524.9715 (pause 2.00) 1526.9707 1192 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1526.9707 And 1527.6778 1193 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1527.6778 (pause 0.50) 1528.1779 1194 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1528.1779 they were excited because 1530.1387 1195 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1530.1387 (pause 0.19) 1530.3244 1196 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1530.3244 the entire semester, 1531.4423 1197 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1531.4423 (pause 0.17) 1531.6129 1198 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1531.6129 the whole school year they had not 1533.0736 1199 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1533.0736 (pause 0.70) 1533.7772 1200 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1533.7772 scored higher than I did on a test. And the only thing he said to me, 1537.3551 1201 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1537.3551 (pause 1.20) 1538.5551 1202 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1538.5551 was that 1539.1837 1203 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1539.1837 (pause 2.07) 1541.2544 1204 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1541.2544 you should never 1542.3151 1205 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1542.3151 (pause 2.37) 1544.6831 1206 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1544.6831 allow anybody to 1546.3823 1207 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1546.3823 (pause 2.83) 1549.2110 1208 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1549.2110 move you from 1550.4673 1209 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1550.4673 (pause 0.61) 1551.0816 1210 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1551.0816 where you know you should be. 1552.4056 1211 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1552.4056 (pause 1.13) 1553.5389 1212 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1553.5389 And 1553.9318 1213 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1553.9318 (pause 0.18) 1554.1166 1214 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1554.1166 although, 1554.9131 1215 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1554.9131 (pause 0.18) 1555.0952 1216 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1555.0952 only two people did better than you, 1556.9060 1217 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1556.9060 (pause 1.52) 1558.4275 1218 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1558.4275 don't- 1558.7632 1219 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1558.7632 (pause 0.16) 1558.9195 1220 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1558.9195 don't ever let me see you 1560.5124 1221 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1560.5124 (pause 0.96) 1561.4768 1222 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1561.4768 settle for being second. 1563.3585 1223 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1563.3585 (pause 1.30) 1564.6582 1224 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1564.6582 And 1565.3939 1225 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1565.3939 (pause 0.33) 1565.7225 1226 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1565.7225 I never forgot it. 1566.6654 1227 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1566.6654 (pause 1.97) 1568.6396 1228 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1568.6396 And every time that I 1570.5718 1229 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1570.5718 (pause 0.36) 1570.9362 1230 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1570.9362 go to do something, 1572.1541 1231 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1572.1541 (pause 0.82) 1572.9746 1232 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1572.9746 those words resonate with me. 1574.5354 1233 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1574.5354 (pause 0.19) 1574.7247 1234 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1574.7247 Don't ever let 1575.3712 1235 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1575.3712 (pause 0.49) 1575.8605 1236 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1575.8605 anyone put you out of the position that 1577.9061 1237 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1577.9061 (pause 1.46) 1579.3669 1238 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1579.3669 you know you should be in. 1580.7348 1239 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1580.7348 (pause 1.31) 1582.0409 1240 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1582.0409 And never accept second. 1583.3805 1241 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1583.3805 (pause 5.43) 1588.8084 1242 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1588.8084 But I sure wish I had one of those Snicker bars right [about now.] 1591.9755 1243 VLD_int_01 1591.3148 [] 1593.8864 1244 VLD_int_01 1594.3971 Wow. 1594.7757 1245 VLD_int_01 1594.7757 (pause 0.22) 1594.9935 1246 VLD_int_01 1594.9935 I did- I didn't know that. 1596.0936 1247 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1596.8285 /Yup/. 1597.2606 1248 VLD_int_01 1598.0178 Is that what inspired you to be a history teacher? 1599.6322 1249 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1601.2206 That was part of it. Um, I- you know- I- 1603.7815 1250 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1603.7815 (pause 0.31) 1604.0886 1251 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1604.0886 I just enjoy history. I always did. 1606.8629 1252 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1606.8629 (pause 0.17) 1607.0307 1253 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1607.0307 Liked social studies. And, 1608.7308 1254 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1608.7308 (pause 0.63) 1609.3558 1255 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1609.3558 uh, he- he inspired me along with, um, 1612.5908 1256 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1612.5908 (pause 0.95) 1613.5423 1257 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1613.5423 w- 1613.6944 1258 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1613.6944 (pause 0.16) 1613.8534 1259 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1613.8534 All of my teachers had a profound impact on me, but 1616.3442 1260 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1616.3442 (pause 0.96) 1617.3009 1261 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1617.3009 it was my- my history teachers that 1619.1576 1262 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1619.1576 (pause 0.20) 1619.3609 1263 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1619.3609 always, you know, 1620.6912 1264 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1620.6912 (pause 1.02) 1621.7158 1265 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1621.7158 pushed me, uh, to do 1623.5896 1266 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1623.5896 (pause 0.71) 1624.2972 1267 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1624.2972 well. 1624.8576 1268 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1624.8576 (pause 0.89) 1625.7458 1269 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1625.7458 And even teachers that I didn't have, 1628.3951 1270 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1628.3951 (pause 1.15) 1629.5499 1271 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1629.5499 uh, that, 1630.0538 1272 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1630.0538 (pause 0.43) 1630.4840 1273 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1630.4840 um, 1630.9821 1274 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1630.9821 (pause 0.25) 1631.2364 1275 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1631.2364 knew me, 1632.0855 1276 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1632.0855 (pause 1.45) 1633.5347 1277 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1633.5347 or, 1633.9932 1278 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1633.9932 (pause 0.16) 1634.1574 1279 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1634.1574 um, 1634.7631 1280 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1634.7631 (pause 0.77) 1635.5330 1281 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1635.5330 would see me around, would know that I was, you know 1638.2836 1282 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1638.2836 (pause 0.49) 1638.7761 1283 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1638.7761 very much interested in history. I w- 1640.9442 1284 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1640.9442 (pause 0.61) 1641.5556 1285 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1641.5556 used to read the textbook. 1642.9085 1286 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1642.9085 (pause 0.78) 1643.6892 1287 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1643.6892 And 1644.0798 1288 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1644.0798 (pause 0.87) 1644.9459 1289 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1644.9459 I would also read extra, uh, books to gain more knowledge. 1649.6558 1290 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1649.6558 (pause 0.63) 1650.2893 1291 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1650.2893 Because I- 1650.8893 1292 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1650.8893 (pause 0.28) 1651.1724 1293 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1651.1724 I- I don't feel like you- you can really be 1654.3877 1294 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1654.3877 (pause 1.61) 1655.9949 1295 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1655.9949 cognizant of what's going on in the world 1658.5763 1296 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1658.5763 (pause 0.73) 1659.3065 1297 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1659.3065 at the present 1660.1613 1298 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1660.1613 (pause 1.13) 1661.2930 1299 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1661.2930 if you don't have an understanding of 1662.9007 1300 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1662.9007 (pause 0.28) 1663.1780 1301 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1663.1780 why things are like they are. 1664.4631 1302 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1664.4631 (pause 0.57) 1665.0291 1303 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1665.0291 So I- I've always been, 1666.4783 1304 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1666.4783 (pause 0.66) 1667.1345 1305 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1667.1345 A person that was very much interested in history. 1669.6479 1306 VLD_int_01 1671.4141 Hm. 1671.7651 1307 VLD_int_01 1671.7651 (pause 2.17) 1673.9383 1308 VLD_int_01 1673.9383 Didn't- I didn't know that. 1675.1186 1309 VLD_int_01 1675.1186 (pause 1.49) 1676.6102 1310 VLD_int_01 1676.6102 So, in what- what year did you have Mr. /RD-NAME-1/? 1679.7517 1311 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1680.4818 That was 1681.4950 1312 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1681.4950 (pause 0.46) 1681.9592 1313 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1681.9592 my tenth grade year. So that was, 1684.2519 1314 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1684.2519 (pause 0.79) 1685.0439 1315 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1685.0439 nineteen ninety-eight. 1686.2157 1316 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1686.2157 (pause 0.90) 1687.1158 1317 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1687.1158 So that's almost been twenty years. 1688.9103 1318 VLD_int_01 1689.8304 Wow. 1690.1623 1319 VLD_int_01 1690.1623 (pause 0.90) 1691.0667 1320 VLD_int_01 1691.0667 Yikes. 1691.5936 1321 VLD_int_01 1691.5936 (pause 1.73) 1693.3252 1322 VLD_int_01 1693.3252 Do you feel old? 1694.0385 1323 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1694.8084 I don't. 1695.2329 1324 VLD_int_01 1697.5420 Hm. 1697.7855 1325 VLD_int_01 1697.7855 (pause 1.75) 1699.5347 1326 VLD_int_01 1699.5347 Mkay. 1700.1121 1327 VLD_int_01 1700.1121 (pause 2.05) 1702.1613 1328 VLD_int_01 1702.1613 I do feel old actually. 1703.5652 1329 VLD_int_01 1703.5652 (pause 0.86) 1704.4251 1330 VLD_int_01 1704.4251 Um, 1705.1044 1331 VLD_int_01 1705.1044 (pause 1.36) 1706.4631 1332 VLD_int_01 1706.4631 any- uh, what a- what other 1707.9349 1333 VLD_int_01 1707.9349 (pause 0.75) 1708.6821 1334 VLD_int_01 1708.6821 memories do you have of high school? 1710.2949 1335 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1715.1798 Other memories that I have of high school, 1717.5573 1336 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1717.5573 (pause 10.38) 1727.9326 1337 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1727.9326 uh, I- I remember, um, 1729.9875 1338 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1729.9875 (pause 1.96) 1731.9462 1339 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1731.9462 some of my, 1733.0444 1340 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1733.0444 (pause 2.13) 1735.1780 1341 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1735.1780 um, attempts at being 1737.1593 1342 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1737.1593 (pause 0.52) 1737.6801 1343 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1737.6801 sociable. 1738.5463 1344 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1738.5463 (pause 1.48) 1740.0232 1345 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1740.0232 That sometimes went well, and sometimes they didn't. 1742.9612 1346 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1742.9612 (pause 0.36) 1743.3235 1347 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1743.3235 But 1743.6065 1348 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1743.6065 (pause 0.92) 1744.5236 1349 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1744.5236 the ones that went well are- are ones that 1747.3026 1350 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1747.3026 (pause 0.52) 1747.8177 1351 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1747.8177 really really stick out. 1749.0405 1352 VLD_int_01 1750.8972 Example? 1751.5143 1353 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1756.8746 Well, 1757.2991 1354 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1757.2991 (pause 1.08) 1758.3742 1355 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1758.3742 there was this 1760.1441 1356 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1760.1441 (pause 0.27) 1760.4177 1357 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1760.4177 girl, 1761.0291 1358 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1761.0291 (pause 2.52) 1763.5477 1359 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1763.5477 that I got to know, 1765.4101 1360 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1765.4101 (pause 0.91) 1766.3215 1361 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1766.3215 in middle school. 1767.4594 1362 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1767.4594 (pause 0.49) 1767.9462 1363 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1767.9462 And I left her in middle school, but 1770.0366 1364 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1770.0366 (pause 0.60) 1770.6346 1365 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1770.6346 when she got to high school, we 1772.6216 1366 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1772.6216 (pause 0.60) 1773.2216 1367 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1773.2216 resumed our friendship. 1774.5179 1368 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1774.5179 (pause 0.39) 1774.9085 1369 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1774.9085 And 1775.6614 1370 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1775.6614 (pause 0.24) 1775.9043 1371 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1775.9043 it's 1776.5157 1372 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1776.5157 (pause 1.04) 1777.5573 1373 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1777.5573 a friendship that continues to this day. 1780.4047 1374 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1780.4047 (pause 1.05) 1781.4515 1375 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1781.4515 And I- 1782.2044 1376 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1782.2044 (pause 0.24) 1782.4421 1377 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1782.4421 I really feel that through all the difficulties and the different changes that 1786.9765 1378 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1786.9765 (pause 1.53) 1788.5101 1379 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1788.5101 we were both going through in the last twenty-five years, 1792.2745 1380 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1792.2745 (pause 0.79) 1793.0671 1381 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1793.0671 we've 1793.5765 1382 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1793.5765 (pause 0.31) 1793.8817 1383 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1793.8817 always just managed to 1796.0951 1384 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1796.0951 (pause 2.14) 1798.2349 1385 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1798.2349 keep in contact with each other and 1800.8384 1386 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1800.8384 (pause 1.81) 1802.6499 1387 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1802.6499 you know it wa- a lot of things that I- that I experienced 1805.9326 1388 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1805.9326 (pause 0.80) 1806.7365 1389 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1806.7365 in life. The high points. 1808.2479 1390 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1808.2479 (pause 0.52) 1808.7631 1391 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1808.7631 You know we were- we were there for each other and even sometimes in 1811.9213 1392 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1811.9213 (pause 0.65) 1812.5667 1393 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1812.5667 low points, 1813.3479 1394 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1813.3479 (pause 0.23) 1813.5800 1395 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1813.5800 we've been there, but 1814.6329 1396 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1814.6329 (pause 0.59) 1815.2273 1397 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1815.2273 I dare not share her name. 1816.8689 1398 VLD_int_01 1819.7188 Okay. 1820.0838 1399 VLD_int_01 1820.0838 (pause 1.94) 1822.0255 1400 VLD_int_01 1822.0255 So how'd you- so how'd you choose to go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/? 1824.5044 1401 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1827.7198 I chose to go to /RD-SCHOOL-3/ because of the fact that, 1831.9932 1402 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1831.9932 (pause 1.00) 1832.9952 1403 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1832.9952 um, 1833.5782 1404 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1833.5782 (pause 0.85) 1834.4274 1405 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1834.4274 they 1834.8519 1406 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1834.8519 (pause 0.43) 1835.2816 1407 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1835.2816 have very good programs at, um, /RD-SCHOOL-3/. 1838.1347 1408 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1838.1347 (pause 0.59) 1838.7235 1409 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1838.7235 At the time that I graduated from high school, 1841.0671 1410 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1841.0671 (pause 1.49) 1842.5610 1411 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1842.5610 um, /RD-SCHOOL-4/ was, uh, very much, uh, one of the 1846.9085 1412 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1846.9085 (pause 0.75) 1847.6553 1413 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1847.6553 rising institutions 1849.1952 1414 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1849.1952 (pause 0.30) 1849.4957 1415 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1849.4957 in, uh, the state of Georgia. 1851.2103 1416 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1851.2103 (pause 0.68) 1851.8896 1417 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1851.8896 We were about 1852.9312 1418 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1852.9312 (pause 0.66) 1853.5930 1419 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1853.5930 three and a half, uh, four years removed from, 1856.5593 1420 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1856.5593 (pause 0.76) 1857.3235 1421 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1857.3235 um, 1857.8669 1422 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1857.8669 (pause 2.75) 1860.6215 1423 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1860.6215 1860.6978 1424 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1860.6978 (pause 0.25) 1860.9516 1425 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1860.9516 the Atlanta Olympics. And a- a lot of the, um, 1864.9595 1426 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1864.9595 (pause 0.25) 1865.2137 1427 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1865.2137 monies that 1866.1761 1428 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1866.1761 (pause 0.34) 1866.5157 1429 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1866.5157 were generated, um, 1867.8800 1430 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1867.8800 (pause 0.35) 1868.2253 1431 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1868.2253 for /RD-SCHOOL-9/ came from, 1870.6425 1432 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1870.6425 (pause 0.74) 1871.3835 1433 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1871.3835 um, 1871.8987 1434 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1871.8987 (pause 1.09) 1872.9912 1435 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1872.9912 the Georgia Lottery and 1874.5819 1436 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1874.5819 (pause 0.29) 1874.8706 1437 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1874.8706 the, uh, HOPE Scholarship. 1876.7722 1438 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1876.7722 (pause 0.70) 1877.4741 1439 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1877.4741 And so I- I- decided that since I was not ready to leave home, 1881.8669 1440 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1881.8669 (pause 0.80) 1882.6708 1441 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1882.6708 and we had a 1883.6105 1442 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1883.6105 (pause 0.22) 1883.8308 1443 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1883.8308 a- a local 1884.8937 1444 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1884.8937 (pause 0.17) 1885.0597 1445 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1885.0597 institution that was 1886.3918 1446 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1886.3918 (pause 0.29) 1886.6833 1447 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1886.6833 on the- on the rise, 1888.1613 1448 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1888.1613 (pause 0.48) 1888.6368 1449 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1888.6368 I just decided to attend /RD-SCHOOL-4/. 1891.4848 1450 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1891.4848 (pause 0.13) 1891.6104 1451 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1891.6104 And, uh, you know, I was so 1893.6575 1452 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1893.6575 (pause 0.67) 1894.3250 1453 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1894.3250 eager to start college that 1896.2610 1454 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1896.2610 (pause 0.95) 1897.2148 1455 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1897.2148 1897.3269 1456 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1897.3269 (pause 0.43) 1897.7611 1457 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1897.7611 I graduated from high school 1900.2519 1458 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1900.2519 (pause 0.72) 1900.9760 1459 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1900.9760 on Friday night with everybody else. 1903.0120 1460 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1903.0120 (pause 0.17) 1903.1780 1461 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1903.1780 And by 1904.2423 1462 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1904.2423 (pause 1.22) 1905.4594 1463 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1905.4594 Thursday of the next week, 1906.8380 1464 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1906.8380 (pause 0.17) 1907.0040 1465 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1907.0040 I was in orientation to start college. 1909.2630 1466 VLD_int_01 1910.4914 Why were you so eager? 1911.3292 1467 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1913.5420 Well, 1913.9836 1468 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1913.9836 (pause 0.30) 1914.2836 1469 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1914.2836 the fact 1914.7761 1470 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1914.7761 (pause 1.28) 1916.0555 1471 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1916.0555 was that I- I wasn't, 1917.9179 1472 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1917.9179 (pause 1.18) 1919.0954 1473 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1919.0954 um, 1919.5539 1474 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1919.5539 (pause 0.33) 1919.8817 1475 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1919.8817 you know, going to do anything differently, 1922.8027 1476 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1922.8027 (pause 0.92) 1923.7198 1477 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1923.7198 because since I was not leaving home, I didn't have to 1926.9007 1478 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1926.9007 (pause 1.28) 1928.1800 1479 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1928.1800 you know, be worried about 1929.4820 1480 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1929.4820 (pause 1.67) 1931.1514 1481 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1931.1514 trying to spend my last few days, or weeks 1934.3710 1482 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1934.3710 (pause 0.18) 1934.5549 1483 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1934.5549 in town with- with my friends. 1936.5972 1484 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1936.5972 (pause 0.40) 1936.9986 1485 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1936.9986 I had my part-time job and so I just, 1939.7602 1486 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1939.7602 (pause 0.47) 1940.2310 1487 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1940.2310 decided that I didn't wanna waste a summer. 1942.3821 1488 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1942.3821 (pause 0.56) 1942.9420 1489 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1942.9420 Um, 1943.5590 1490 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1943.5590 (pause 1.12) 1944.6742 1491 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1944.6742 and so I just enrolled in college and 1946.6555 1492 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1946.6555 (pause 1.30) 1947.9519 1493 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1947.9519 started a- a week after I got done with high school. 1951.2346 1494 VLD_int_01 1952.4347 Where did you work? 1953.1593 1495 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1954.0481 I worked at /RD-WORK-3/. 1955.2595 1496 VLD_int_01 1955.7741 That's right. 1956.4704 1497 VLD_int_01 1956.4704 (pause 0.83) 1957.2969 1498 VLD_int_01 1957.2969 Sorry. 1957.6649 1499 VLD_int_01 1957.6649 (pause 1.86) 1959.5216 1500 VLD_int_01 1959.5216 [And so how'd you decide that you were-] 1960.9595 1501 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1959.5330 [/unintelligible/]. 1960.9595 1502 VLD_int_01 1963.2573 How did you decide that you were gonna do education? Like, I mean 1966.3481 1503 VLD_int_01 1966.3481 (pause 0.44) 1966.7892 1504 VLD_int_01 1966.7892 I feel like it was destined, but 1967.9100 1505 VLD_int_01 1967.9100 (pause 0.45) 1968.3572 1506 VLD_int_01 1968.3572 you had to make a choice. 1969.4894 1507 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1971.0518 Well, 1971.5216 1508 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1971.5216 (pause 0.23) 1971.7481 1509 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1971.7481 um, 1972.4104 1510 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1972.4104 (pause 0.34) 1972.7552 1511 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1972.7552 originally when I enrolled at, um, 1975.1328 1512 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1975.1328 (pause 0.72) 1975.8517 1513 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1975.8517 1975.9423 1514 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1975.9423 (pause 0.41) 1976.3498 1515 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1976.3498 /RD-SCHOOL-3/, 1977.1466 1516 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1977.1466 (pause 0.08) 1977.2296 1517 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1977.2296 I enrolled in the criminal justice program. 1980.0912 1518 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1980.0912 (pause 1.15) 1981.2403 1519 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1981.2403 And 1981.7554 1520 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1981.7554 (pause 1.05) 1982.8084 1521 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1982.8084 I got, 1983.6405 1522 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1983.6405 (pause 0.34) 1983.9802 1523 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1983.9802 uh, over half way through the program 1986.1817 1524 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1986.1817 (pause 0.26) 1986.4421 1525 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1986.4421 and 1986.9742 1526 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1986.9742 (pause 0.52) 1987.4894 1527 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1987.4894 realized that a lot of the jobs that I would 1991.1973 1528 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1991.1973 (pause 0.36) 1991.5590 1529 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1991.5590 desire when I graduated, 1993.4441 1530 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1993.4441 (pause 0.62) 1994.0668 1531 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1994.0668 may, or may not have been open to me, 1996.9935 1532 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1996.9935 (pause 0.19) 1997.1854 1533 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1997.1854 but because I was, 1998.5836 1534 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1998.5836 (pause 1.29) 1999.8687 1535 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 1999.8687 um, 2000.5649 1536 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2000.5649 (pause 0.56) 2001.1254 1537 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2001.1254 over half way through with the program, I continued it. 2004.0459 1538 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2004.0459 (pause 0.77) 2004.8157 1539 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2004.8157 And I decided that when I graduated, 2007.6292 1540 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2007.6292 (pause 0.40) 2008.0311 1541 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2008.0311 in December two thousand three, 2009.8364 1542 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2009.8364 (pause 1.44) 2011.2799 1543 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2011.2799 with my, uh, 2012.1291 1544 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2012.1291 (pause 0.63) 2012.7574 1545 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2012.7574 bachelor's degree, 2013.7820 1546 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2013.7820 (pause 0.37) 2014.1557 1547 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2014.1557 in criminal justice, that I would 2015.8477 1548 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2015.8477 (pause 0.19) 2016.0345 1549 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2016.0345 enroll in 2017.0026 1550 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2017.0026 (pause 0.70) 2017.6988 1551 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2017.6988 the, 2017.9649 1552 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2017.9649 (pause 0.97) 2018.9386 1553 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2018.9386 uh, 2019.3178 1554 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2019.3178 (pause 0.26) 2019.5782 1555 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2019.5782 alternative initial ta- 2021.0439 1556 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2021.0439 (pause 0.23) 2021.2760 1557 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2021.2760 initial certification program. 2023.6422 1558 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2023.6422 (pause 0.65) 2024.2894 1559 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2024.2894 And so I never stopped going to school. I graduated 2027.5568 1560 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2027.5568 (pause 1.08) 2028.6341 1561 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2028.6341 in December. And started a new program in January. 2032.1639 1562 VLD_int_01 2033.3051 When'd you graduate from that program? 2034.4662 1563 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2034.9838 I graduated from 2036.3780 1564 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2036.3780 (pause 1.25) 2037.6323 1565 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2037.6323 that program with my master's degree in December, two thousand and eight. 2042.1728 1566 VLD_int_01 2044.1965 Hm. 2044.4716 1567 VLD_int_01 2044.4716 (pause 1.01) 2045.4777 1568 VLD_int_01 2045.4777 Did I know that? 2045.9766 1569 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2047.1050 You should have, 2048.1029 1570 VLD_int_01 2050.0380 Did you tell me that? 2050.7188 1571 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2053.4267 You should've known. I- I think I did. 2056.2292 1572 VLD_int_01 2057.4031 Mm. 2058.1025 1573 VLD_int_01 2058.1025 (pause 0.45) 2058.5548 1574 VLD_int_01 2058.5548 Questionable. 2059.1470 1575 VLD_int_01 2059.1470 (pause 1.16) 2060.3034 1576 VLD_int_01 2060.3034 Questionable. 2060.8956 1577 VLD_int_01 2060.8956 (pause 0.85) 2061.7471 1578 VLD_int_01 2061.7471 It's questionable. 2062.7094 1579 VLD_int_01 2062.7094 (pause 2.22) 2064.9325 1580 VLD_int_01 2064.9325 You telling me is questionable. 2066.1355 1581 VLD_int_01 2066.1355 (pause 0.30) 2066.4386 1582 VLD_int_01 2066.4386 We'll go with that. 2067.0168 1583 VLD_int_01 2067.0168 (pause 0.88) 2067.8934 1584 VLD_int_01 2067.8934 We'll go with that. 2068.6022 1585 VLD_int_01 2068.6022 (pause 0.75) 2069.3564 1586 VLD_int_01 2069.3564 Okay good. And so what did you do after you graduated? 2071.6972 1587 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2074.6197 Um, after I graduated, I- 2076.0465 1588 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2076.0465 (pause 0.22) 2076.2704 1589 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2076.2704 I- 2076.4988 1590 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2076.4988 (pause 0.10) 2076.6014 1591 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2076.6014 I was already, um, 2078.4619 1592 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2078.4619 (pause 0.92) 2079.3852 1593 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2079.3852 2079.4738 1594 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2079.4738 (pause 0.22) 2079.6929 1595 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2079.6929 four years into my career as an educator. So I just continued, um, 2084.1215 1596 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2084.1215 (pause 2.28) 2086.4017 1597 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2086.4017 being an educator here in Valdosta until the end of two thousand nine. 2091.3339 1598 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2091.3339 (pause 0.70) 2092.0333 1599 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2092.0333 And 2092.6523 1600 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2092.6523 (pause 0.18) 2092.8295 1601 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2092.8295 at the end of the school year in two thousand nine I 2094.8066 1602 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2094.8066 (pause 0.60) 2095.4081 1603 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2095.4081 went to, um, 2096.9422 1604 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2096.9422 (pause 0.53) 2097.4738 1605 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2097.4738 Madison County in Florida. 2099.6175 1606 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2099.6175 (pause 0.64) 2100.2610 1607 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2100.2610 And I was, uh, there for four and a half years. 2103.7489 1608 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2103.7489 (pause 1.28) 2105.0254 1609 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2105.0254 And I've also been in 2106.9185 1610 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2106.9185 (pause 1.35) 2108.2661 1611 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2108.2661 uh, Lowndes County and also in Thomas County in the last 2112.4149 1612 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2112.4149 (pause 0.63) 2113.0432 1613 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2113.0432 three and a half years. 2114.1402 1614 VLD_int_01 2114.9842 So what do you do now? 2115.8095 1615 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2117.2911 I'm currently, um, 2119.1190 1616 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2119.1190 (pause 0.54) 2119.6557 1617 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2119.6557 2119.7589 1618 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2119.7589 (pause 0.38) 2120.1402 1619 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2120.1402 in between, 2121.0588 1620 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2121.0588 (pause 1.43) 2122.4891 1621 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2122.4891 uh, jobs. I've 2123.9160 1622 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2123.9160 (pause 0.57) 2124.4848 1623 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2124.4848 most recently worked, um, 2126.4712 1624 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2126.4712 (pause 0.60) 2127.0728 1625 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2127.0728 in Thomas County at the, um, 2129.3576 1626 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2129.3576 (pause 0.81) 2130.1678 1627 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2130.1678 /RD-WORK-2/ 2130.8719 1628 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2130.8719 (pause 0.33) 2131.1983 1629 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2131.1983 /RD-WORK-4/, [uh, which] is 2133.4085 1630 VLD_int_01 2132.5738 [Hm.] 2132.8722 1631 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2133.9214 a part of the, uh, 2135.4835 1632 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2135.4835 (pause 0.47) 2135.9486 1633 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2135.9486 department of juvenile justice for the state of Georgia. 2138.4712 1634 VLD_int_01 2139.8328 So what's your dream job? 2140.9472 1635 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2143.6086 My dream job would to- would be to, uh, 2147.0405 1636 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2147.0405 (pause 0.18) 2147.2165 1637 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2147.2165 finally make 2148.2797 1638 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2148.2797 (pause 1.07) 2149.3521 1639 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2149.3521 the move to be a 2150.6018 1640 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2150.6018 (pause 0.85) 2151.4504 1641 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2151.4504 college professor. 2152.6541 1642 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2152.6541 (pause 0.23) 2152.8855 1643 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2152.8855 Um, I- I think that 2154.6434 1644 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2154.6434 (pause 0.83) 2155.4734 1645 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2155.4734 the, 2156.0562 1646 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2156.0562 (pause 1.46) 2157.5204 1647 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2157.5204 uh, potential 2158.5089 1648 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2158.5089 (pause 0.58) 2159.0860 1649 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2159.0860 and opportunities are limitless once you, 2162.0935 1650 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2162.0935 (pause 0.63) 2162.7277 1651 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2162.7277 leave the public school arena. And so I would really like to 2166.3496 1652 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2166.3496 (pause 0.43) 2166.7833 1653 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2166.7833 explore what it would be like to teach college classes. 2169.5903 1654 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2169.5903 (pause 2.36) 2171.9486 1655 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2171.9486 /unintelligible/. 2174.6531 1656 VLD_int_01 2176.4949 So, 2177.2783 1657 VLD_int_01 2177.2783 (pause 0.81) 2178.0932 1658 VLD_int_01 2178.0932 let's switch for a minute. 2179.0817 1659 VLD_int_01 2179.0817 (pause 0.80) 2179.8791 1660 VLD_int_01 2179.8791 If you had to tell me- 2180.9189 1661 VLD_int_01 2180.9189 (pause 0.43) 2181.3525 1662 VLD_int_01 2181.3525 tell me your favorite- 2182.3271 1663 VLD_int_01 2182.3271 (pause 1.77) 2184.0978 1664 VLD_int_01 2184.0978 tell me your favorite book or movie. 2185.9303 1665 VLD_int_01 2185.9303 (pause 1.78) 2187.7116 1666 VLD_int_01 2187.7116 And tell me why. 2188.5649 1667 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2189.2492 My favorite movie, 2190.7693 1668 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2190.7693 (pause 2.35) 2193.1147 1669 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2193.1147 oh, I have several favorites, but for the sake of, 2197.5247 1670 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2197.5247 (pause 0.31) 2197.8371 1671 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2197.8371 uh, time, 2198.8583 1672 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2198.8583 (pause 1.43) 2200.2851 1673 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2200.2851 I, um, 2201.4631 1674 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2201.4631 (pause 2.82) 2204.2801 1675 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2204.2801 enjoy, the- 2205.3572 1676 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2205.3572 (pause 2.37) 2207.7295 1677 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2207.7295 the movie, The- The Green Mile. 2209.5900 1678 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2209.5900 (pause 0.47) 2210.0562 1679 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2210.0562 And the reason that I enjoyed The Green Mile is because 2213.7055 1680 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2213.7055 (pause 1.88) 2215.5900 1681 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2215.5900 throughout the movie, um, 2217.4271 1682 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2217.4271 (pause 0.30) 2217.7256 1683 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2217.7256 you actually see 2218.9239 1684 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2218.9239 (pause 0.84) 2219.7621 1685 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2219.7621 what occurs. 2220.8812 1686 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2220.8812 (pause 2.06) 2222.9375 1687 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2222.9375 And 2223.7302 1688 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2223.7302 (pause 0.49) 2224.2187 1689 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2224.2187 the- the whole premise of the movie is that you have 2227.2869 1690 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2227.2869 (pause 0.78) 2228.0656 1691 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2228.0656 a man who is innocent of 2230.4063 1692 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2230.4063 (pause 0.67) 2231.0766 1693 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2231.0766 a double murder 2232.0932 1694 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2232.0932 (pause 0.36) 2232.4569 1695 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2232.4569 to be convicted and sentenced 2234.4946 1696 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2234.4946 (pause 0.55) 2235.0494 1697 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2235.0494 to death. 2235.7302 1698 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2235.7302 (pause 1.74) 2237.4683 1699 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2237.4683 And he's a person that 2239.5806 1700 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2239.5806 (pause 1.73) 2241.3059 1701 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2241.3059 is seemingly not very smart. He's very naive. He's very 2244.9605 1702 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2244.9605 (pause 0.73) 2245.6879 1703 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2245.6879 innocent. 2246.2428 1704 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2246.2428 (pause 1.70) 2247.9401 1705 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2247.9401 And he's a person that sees 2250.6480 1706 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2250.6480 (pause 1.11) 2251.7625 1707 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2251.7625 the good 2252.3826 1708 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2252.3826 (pause 0.68) 2253.0588 1709 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2253.0588 in everything, 2253.9960 1710 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2253.9960 (pause 0.40) 2254.3970 1711 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2254.3970 in everybody. 2255.2643 1712 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2255.2643 (pause 1.20) 2256.4615 1713 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2256.4615 He sees all things good in the world, 2259.0634 1714 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2259.0634 (pause 0.40) 2259.4598 1715 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2259.4598 but 2259.8981 1716 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2259.8981 (pause 2.47) 2262.3636 1717 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2262.3636 in the end that cost him, 2264.0935 1718 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2264.0935 (pause 0.63) 2264.7230 1719 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2264.7230 his life. 2265.4318 1720 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2265.4318 (pause 0.22) 2265.6510 1721 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2265.6510 And it seems like that- 2267.2597 1722 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2267.2597 (pause 0.62) 2267.8787 1723 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2267.8787 that's one of the 2268.5455 1724 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2268.5455 (pause 0.58) 2269.1237 1725 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2269.1237 dynamic things about life is that you can be 2272.0286 1726 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2272.0286 (pause 0.67) 2272.6990 1727 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2272.6990 a person that sees the good, 2274.5688 1728 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2274.5688 (pause 0.75) 2275.3148 1729 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2275.3148 in everything and everybody 2276.7324 1730 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2276.7324 (pause 0.83) 2277.5624 1731 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2277.5624 and in the end, 2278.7141 1732 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2278.7141 (pause 0.98) 2279.6968 1733 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2279.6968 the world turns on you. 2280.9278 1734 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2280.9278 (pause 1.55) 2282.4759 1735 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2282.4759 So, you know. I- I kind of 2284.1079 1736 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2284.1079 (pause 0.41) 2284.5136 1737 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2284.5136 like that movie, uh, quite a bit, because he 2287.7205 1738 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2287.7205 (pause 1.69) 2289.4131 1739 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2289.4131 is 2289.7256 1740 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2289.7256 (pause 0.67) 2290.4005 1741 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2290.4005 so innocent. And in the end, he just 2293.1983 1742 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2293.1983 (pause 1.45) 2294.6438 1743 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2294.6438 says that, you know, 2295.8561 1744 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2295.8561 (pause 0.51) 2296.3690 1745 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2296.3690 the world is a evil place and dark- full of evil people. 2299.8820 1746 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2299.8820 (pause 0.83) 2300.7090 1747 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2300.7090 And 2301.1613 1748 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2301.1613 (pause 1.36) 2302.5229 1749 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2302.5229 it's always 2303.2410 1750 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2303.2410 (pause 0.39) 2303.6269 1751 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2303.6269 the- the good 2304.6194 1752 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2304.6194 (pause 0.25) 2304.8703 1753 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2304.8703 who suffer the most. 2306.4199 1754 VLD_int_01 2310.1771 Do you feel like- 2310.8579 1755 VLD_int_01 2310.8579 (pause 0.83) 2311.6832 1756 VLD_int_01 2311.6832 do you feel like that character in some ways? 2313.5064 1757 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2315.9486 I- I have seen some- some parallels between 2319.2593 1758 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2319.2593 (pause 1.18) 2320.4378 1759 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2320.4378 what he suffers and some of the things that 2323.3335 1760 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2323.3335 (pause 0.53) 2323.8604 1761 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2323.8604 I have gone through, because I- 2326.1639 1762 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2326.1639 (pause 0.23) 2326.3924 1763 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2326.3924 I really feel that 2328.1724 1764 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2328.1724 (pause 0.43) 2328.6014 1765 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2328.6014 there have been some times where 2330.3219 1766 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2330.3219 (pause 0.45) 2330.7697 1767 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2330.7697 I may not have been treated fairly, 2333.1384 1768 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2333.1384 (pause 0.76) 2333.8973 1769 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2333.8973 but 2334.4102 1770 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2334.4102 (pause 1.96) 2336.3687 1771 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2336.3687 I was always raised to 2338.3784 1772 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2338.3784 (pause 0.87) 2339.2492 1773 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2339.2492 always do the right thing 2340.9045 1774 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2340.9045 (pause 0.78) 2341.6832 1775 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2341.6832 in spite of, uh, what you face, 2344.1875 1776 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2344.1875 (pause 0.21) 2344.3951 1777 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2344.3951 because 2345.0172 1778 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2345.0172 (pause 1.32) 2346.3356 1779 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2346.3356 that's just the right thing to do. To- to do right by people, even 2350.2478 1780 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2350.2478 (pause 0.74) 2350.9927 1781 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2350.9927 if you realize that you're not d- being done fairly because 2354.5738 1782 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2354.5738 (pause 0.53) 2355.1007 1783 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2355.1007 my parents always told me that I would never be held responsible 2359.1283 1784 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2359.1283 (pause 0.62) 2359.7532 1785 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2359.7532 for how somebody treated me. 2361.5997 1786 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2361.5997 (pause 1.07) 2362.6710 1787 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2362.6710 But 2362.9181 1788 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2362.9181 (pause 0.28) 2363.1932 1789 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2363.1932 it was totally up to me 2364.5594 1790 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2364.5594 (pause 0.42) 2364.9791 1791 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2364.9791 to determine how I treated them. 2366.6438 1792 VLD_int_01 2369.6502 What do you do for fun? 2370.4988 1793 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2373.1240 Well I am, 2374.0846 1794 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2374.0846 (pause 0.31) 2374.3970 1795 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2374.3970 an extreme 2375.4695 1796 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2375.4695 (pause 1.08) 2376.5501 1797 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2376.5501 WWE fanatic. 2378.2334 1798 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2378.2334 (pause 1.19) 2379.4271 1799 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2379.4271 Um, I 2380.3457 1800 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2380.3457 (pause 0.61) 2380.9601 1801 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2380.9601 like to watch, uh, movies. I read books, um, 2384.8956 1802 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2384.8956 (pause 0.37) 2385.2674 1803 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2385.2674 2385.3322 1804 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2385.3322 (pause 1.61) 2386.9461 1805 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2386.9461 I make very good use of my 2389.2962 1806 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2389.2962 (pause 0.88) 2390.1728 1807 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2390.1728 ten dollar subscription to the WWE network because I realize that if nothing else goes right, I've always got 2397.0028 1808 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2397.0028 (pause 1.80) 2398.8027 1809 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2398.8027 you know my- 2399.4835 1810 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2399.4835 (pause 0.15) 2399.6362 1811 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2399.6362 my sports addiction 2401.4547 1812 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2401.4547 (pause 1.08) 2402.5365 1813 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2402.5365 that I can always fall back on. 2404.2944 1814 VLD_int_01 2406.6387 So if you- a typical- 2407.8278 1815 VLD_int_01 2407.8278 (pause 1.07) 2408.8956 1816 VLD_int_01 2408.8956 Mm. If you were to have the dream weekend, what would it be? 2411.0965 1817 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2417.0160 Um, my- my typical dream weekend would be 2420.1402 1818 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2420.1402 (pause 0.65) 2420.7883 1819 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2420.7883 2421.4178 1820 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2421.4178 (pause 1.44) 2422.8575 1821 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2422.8575 You know, just 2424.0978 1822 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2424.0978 (pause 2.01) 2426.1075 1823 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2426.1075 I wouldn't even say being in it- in a- in an exotic place. 2430.2750 1824 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2430.2750 (pause 0.78) 2431.0584 1825 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2431.0584 But just being, you know, maybe in a 2432.8676 1826 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2432.8676 (pause 0.24) 2433.1054 1827 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2433.1054 place that 2433.8981 1828 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2433.8981 (pause 0.26) 2434.1581 1829 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2434.1581 You know I can wake up and see, um, 2436.8206 1830 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2436.8206 (pause 0.92) 2437.7392 1831 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2437.7392 the sunrise and 2439.2499 1832 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2439.2499 (pause 0.41) 2439.6603 1833 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2439.6603 it 2439.8188 1834 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2439.8188 (pause 0.26) 2440.0799 1835 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2440.0799 could be a beach, or it could just be a secluded place, or just a place that 2443.9863 1836 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2443.9863 (pause 0.71) 2444.6997 1837 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2444.6997 is 2445.1707 1838 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2445.1707 (pause 0.24) 2445.4131 1839 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2445.4131 serene. 2446.2571 1840 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2446.2571 (pause 1.09) 2447.3518 1841 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2447.3518 That just allows me to get away from 2450.0516 1842 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2450.0516 (pause 0.73) 2450.7837 1843 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2450.7837 the hustle and bustle of, um, 2453.0405 1844 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2453.0405 (pause 0.46) 2453.5010 1845 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2453.5010 2453.6005 1846 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2453.6005 (pause 0.27) 2453.8740 1847 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2453.8740 the light that 2454.4942 1848 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2454.4942 (pause 0.23) 2454.7227 1849 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2454.7227 you know that 2455.2449 1850 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2455.2449 (pause 1.86) 2457.1054 1851 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2457.1054 the average person lives everyday just to get away from some of that. And just being able to, 2463.0541 1852 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2463.0541 (pause 1.07) 2464.1219 1853 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2464.1219 uh, enjoy nature and you know, of course 2467.7951 1854 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2467.7951 (pause 1.09) 2468.8862 1855 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2468.8862 have some good food. And 2470.9472 1856 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2470.9472 (pause 0.24) 2471.1839 1857 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2471.1839 be with the people who 2472.8532 1858 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2472.8532 (pause 0.85) 2473.7019 1859 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2473.7019 are like minded. Who just want to 2476.3644 1860 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2476.3644 (pause 0.66) 2477.0207 1861 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2477.0207 have a good time. 2478.0978 1862 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2478.0978 (pause 0.76) 2478.8625 1863 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2478.8625 And of course, ending up on Sunday at church. 2481.2173 1864 VLD_int_01 2485.9397 So, clearly church is a big part of your- 2488.3457 1865 VLD_int_01 2488.3457 (pause 1.49) 2489.8367 1866 VLD_int_01 2489.8367 of your family. And, 2491.4594 1867 VLD_int_01 2491.4594 (pause 0.43) 2491.8930 1868 VLD_int_01 2491.8930 um, 2492.4060 1869 VLD_int_01 2492.4060 (pause 0.90) 2493.3012 1870 VLD_int_01 2493.3012 and your dad's a preacher. 2495.0825 1871 VLD_int_01 2495.0825 (pause 0.29) 2495.3751 1872 VLD_int_01 2495.3751 Are you a preacher? 2495.9673 1873 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2496.3683 I am. 2496.9418 1874 VLD_int_01 2497.9070 And so, 2498.4852 1875 VLD_int_01 2498.4852 (pause 1.42) 2499.9074 1876 VLD_int_01 2499.9074 tell me a little bit about- 2501.0580 1877 VLD_int_01 2501.0580 (pause 0.53) 2501.5896 1878 VLD_int_01 2501.5896 about church, 2502.7133 1879 VLD_int_01 2502.7133 (pause 1.00) 2503.7112 1880 VLD_int_01 2503.7112 for your family, for you. 2504.8070 1881 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2505.8235 Well, church has always been a staple 2508.8812 1882 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2508.8812 (pause 0.21) 2509.0932 1883 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2509.0932 of, uh, my family life. 2511.3012 1884 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2511.3012 (pause 0.75) 2512.0520 1885 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2512.0520 It's 2512.5497 1886 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2512.5497 (pause 0.21) 2512.7642 1887 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2512.7642 uh, always been a constant thing. An- an- and we've always 2516.6111 1888 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2516.6111 (pause 0.90) 2517.5157 1889 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2517.5157 been taught that 2519.0265 1890 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2519.0265 (pause 0.30) 2519.3238 1891 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2519.3238 you know, god should be the center. 2521.2682 1892 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2521.2682 (pause 0.87) 2522.1402 1893 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2522.1402 And the head of your life. And that, 2524.1872 1894 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2524.1872 (pause 0.33) 2524.5136 1895 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2524.5136 um, 2525.0452 1896 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2525.0452 (pause 2.00) 2527.0444 1897 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2527.0444 it's, you know, good to be able to know god. And to trust him. 2531.2550 1898 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2531.2550 (pause 0.93) 2532.1818 1899 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2532.1818 And I shared with someone, 2533.9117 1900 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2533.9117 (pause 0.31) 2534.2194 1901 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2534.2194 uh, not long ago that, 2536.0566 1902 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2536.0566 (pause 1.37) 2537.4310 1903 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2537.4310 uh, a lot of times 2539.2589 1904 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2539.2589 (pause 0.26) 2539.5200 1905 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2539.5200 when we were growing up, 2540.6671 1906 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2540.6671 (pause 0.80) 2541.4644 1907 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2541.4644 we went to church when other people were doing other things. 2544.9511 1908 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2544.9511 (pause 0.52) 2545.4687 1909 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2545.4687 and sometimes it 2546.5598 1910 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2546.5598 (pause 0.41) 2546.9702 1911 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2546.9702 would seem like we were forced to go to church, 2549.7481 1912 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2549.7481 (pause 0.76) 2550.5035 1913 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2550.5035 but, 2550.7320 1914 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2550.7320 (pause 0.27) 2551.0024 1915 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2551.0024 um, 2551.4547 1916 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2551.4547 (pause 1.71) 2553.1660 1917 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2553.1660 I always found something in church that you know, was interesting to me, because I- I've always said that if 2558.9608 1918 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2558.9608 (pause 0.62) 2559.5810 1919 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2559.5810 I'm going to have to go to church, I may as well find something interesting. 2563.6273 1920 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2563.6273 (pause 0.60) 2564.2241 1921 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2564.2241 But, 2564.4106 1922 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2564.4106 (pause 0.48) 2564.8862 1923 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2564.8862 you know, as a child I went to church and I didn't always understand everything, but, 2569.5853 1924 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2569.5853 (pause 1.06) 2570.6484 1925 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2570.6484 uh, I've always had people around me who were willing to help me, to understand. And so, 2576.0189 1926 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2576.0189 (pause 0.49) 2576.5132 1927 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2576.5132 now I- I understand the my reliance on, 2579.5568 1928 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2579.5568 (pause 0.75) 2580.3077 1929 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2580.3077 uh, god, and- and trying to live and do, 2583.3106 1930 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2583.3106 (pause 0.53) 2583.8421 1931 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2583.8421 uh, 2584.1359 1932 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2584.1359 (pause 0.35) 2584.4809 1933 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2584.4809 what- 2584.7048 1934 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2584.7048 (pause 0.28) 2584.9845 1935 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2584.9845 what I feel god would 2586.1118 1936 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2586.1118 (pause 0.72) 2586.8346 1937 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2586.8346 call for me to do is what, 2588.2288 1938 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2588.2288 (pause 0.52) 2588.7464 1939 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2588.7464 uh, leads me life to- to this day. 2590.9892 1940 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2590.9892 (pause 0.62) 2591.6082 1941 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2591.6082 Um, now 2592.5082 1942 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2592.5082 (pause 0.34) 2592.8485 1943 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2592.8485 as far as me 2594.1402 1944 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2594.1402 (pause 1.66) 2595.8002 1945 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2595.8002 being in ministry, um, 2597.3891 1946 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2597.3891 (pause 0.22) 2597.6082 1947 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2597.6082 when I was younger I had some 2599.2123 1948 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2599.2123 (pause 0.73) 2599.9397 1949 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2599.9397 ideas about some things that I was going to do and how I was going to do it and 2605.1703 1950 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2605.1703 (pause 2.78) 2607.9494 1951 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2607.9494 I had, 2608.5882 1952 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2608.5882 (pause 0.28) 2608.8726 1953 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2608.8726 um, 2609.4182 1954 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2609.4182 (pause 1.67) 2611.0834 1955 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2611.0834 2611.1786 1956 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2611.1786 (pause 0.80) 2611.9816 1957 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2611.9816 a near death experience 2613.7535 1958 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2613.7535 (pause 0.35) 2614.1033 1959 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2614.1033 that 2614.3644 1960 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2614.3644 (pause 0.27) 2614.6302 1961 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2614.6302 allowed me to see, 2616.2191 1962 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2616.2191 (pause 1.34) 2617.5573 1963 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2617.5573 just how quickly 2618.6904 1964 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2618.6904 (pause 1.24) 2619.9261 1965 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2619.9261 you know, life could be gone. 2621.4264 1966 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2621.4264 (pause 0.30) 2621.7295 1967 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2621.7295 And 2622.2191 1968 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2622.2191 (pause 1.39) 2623.6133 1969 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2623.6133 it allowed me to see that there may be some things 2627.0312 1970 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2627.0312 (pause 0.67) 2627.7015 1971 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2627.7015 that 2627.9253 1972 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2627.9253 (pause 0.26) 2628.1864 1973 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2628.1864 I had planned, 2629.2402 1974 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2629.2402 (pause 0.55) 2629.7905 1975 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2629.7905 that god did not plan. 2631.0401 1976 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2631.0401 (pause 1.26) 2632.3038 1977 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2632.3038 And so 2633.3156 1978 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2633.3156 (pause 0.19) 2633.5010 1979 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2633.5010 I- I- I really honestly believe that sometimes god can send us a sign to let us 2638.5556 1980 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2638.5556 (pause 1.19) 2639.7434 1981 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2639.7434 see that our plans are not his. And that 2642.8862 1982 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2642.8862 (pause 0.36) 2643.2499 1983 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2643.2499 I- I've- honestly believed that 2644.9146 1984 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2644.9146 (pause 0.36) 2645.2725 1985 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2645.2725 there's some people that god just- uh, just does not allow 2648.6997 1986 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2648.6997 (pause 1.21) 2649.9121 1987 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2649.9121 to 2650.4483 1988 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2650.4483 (pause 0.48) 2650.9321 1989 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2650.9321 do their own thing. 2651.9813 1990 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2651.9813 (pause 0.62) 2652.5968 1991 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2652.5968 And I- and I feel like that- I'm one of those people that just can't 2656.2944 1992 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2656.2944 (pause 0.51) 2656.8027 1993 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2656.8027 have my way about everything. I- I have to depend on god, because if I don't, 2661.2546 1994 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2661.2546 (pause 0.96) 2662.2105 1995 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2662.2105 the near death experience could 2663.9253 1996 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2663.9253 (pause 0.42) 2664.3450 1997 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2664.3450 become 2664.9185 1998 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2664.9185 (pause 0.51) 2665.4314 1999 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2665.4314 something that's permanent. 2666.4852 2000 VLD_int_01 2668.7234 Can you tell me about that time? 2670.0092 2001 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2671.2996 2671.3948 2002 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2671.3948 (pause 0.27) 2671.6692 2003 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2671.6692 Well it was, um, 2673.3945 2004 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2673.3945 (pause 1.39) 2674.7875 2005 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2674.7875 March the twenty-sixth of, uh, 2676.6201 2006 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2676.6201 (pause 0.29) 2676.9092 2007 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2676.9092 two thousand. 2677.6226 2008 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2677.6226 (pause 1.13) 2678.7510 2009 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2678.7510 Senior year, 2679.9214 2010 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2679.9214 (pause 0.86) 2680.7782 2011 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2680.7782 spring break 2681.7994 2012 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2681.7994 (pause 1.77) 2683.5666 2013 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2683.5666 I finally made it through all of my hard classes. 2686.8307 2014 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2686.8307 (pause 2.12) 2688.9465 2015 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2688.9465 I'm thinking about college a few months down the line 2692.3154 2016 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2692.3154 (pause 2.05) 2694.3683 2017 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2694.3683 and, um, 2695.6179 2018 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2695.6179 (pause 1.05) 2696.6712 2019 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2696.6712 2696.7534 2020 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2696.7534 (pause 0.42) 2697.1707 2021 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2697.1707 I was riding, uh, in a car 2698.8913 2022 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2698.8913 (pause 1.49) 2700.3776 2023 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2700.3776 uh, with my cousin 2701.8091 2024 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2701.8091 (pause 0.35) 2702.1588 2025 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2702.1588 and 2702.8518 2026 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2702.8518 (pause 1.14) 2703.9913 2027 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2703.9913 we crossed the- uh, a busy intersection, 2706.6760 2028 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2706.6760 (pause 0.99) 2707.6692 2029 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2707.6692 but of course we had 2708.7464 2030 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2708.7464 (pause 0.66) 2709.4038 2031 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2709.4038 looked 2710.1499 2032 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2710.1499 (pause 1.24) 2711.3937 2033 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2711.3937 to be sure that there was no onc- oncoming traffic. 2714.8443 2034 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2714.8443 (pause 1.46) 2716.3084 2035 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2716.3084 And we crossed the intersection 2717.9300 2036 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2717.9300 (pause 1.61) 2719.5383 2037 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2719.5383 2719.6464 2038 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2719.6464 (pause 0.23) 2719.8791 2039 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2719.8791 and I happened to look 2721.4458 2040 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2721.4458 (pause 1.20) 2722.6488 2041 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2722.6488 out of the passenger side window where I was sitting, 2725.0491 2042 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2725.0491 (pause 2.51) 2727.5577 2043 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2727.5577 and I saw another car coming. 2729.6409 2044 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2729.6409 (pause 1.45) 2731.0864 2045 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2731.0864 And we were 2731.9583 2046 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2731.9583 (pause 1.59) 2733.5437 2047 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2733.5437 committed 2734.0893 2048 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2734.0893 (pause 1.02) 2735.1093 2049 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2735.1093 to crossing the intersection. 2737.7019 2050 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2737.7019 (pause 0.80) 2738.5039 2051 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2738.5039 So, there was no way 2740.1312 2052 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2740.1312 (pause 1.26) 2741.3891 2053 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2741.3891 that we could avoid 2742.8765 2054 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2742.8765 (pause 2.14) 2745.0215 2055 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2745.0215 being struck. And 2746.9286 2056 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2746.9286 (pause 1.17) 2748.1025 2057 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2748.1025 my door was hit 2749.8651 2058 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2749.8651 (pause 1.18) 2751.0401 2059 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2751.0401 and I imagine that that other person, 2753.1244 2060 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2753.1244 (pause 0.87) 2753.9952 2061 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2753.9952 was going at least 2755.6412 2062 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2755.6412 (pause 0.47) 2756.1075 2063 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2756.1075 sixty or sixty-five miles per hour. 2758.3177 2064 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2758.3177 (pause 0.90) 2759.2165 2065 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2759.2165 And 2759.6828 2066 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2759.6828 (pause 2.30) 2761.9816 2067 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2761.9816 both of us 2763.0075 2068 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2763.0075 (pause 0.54) 2763.5484 2069 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2763.5484 in the car and the other driver walked away 2766.4336 2070 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2766.4336 (pause 0.71) 2767.1470 2071 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2767.1470 without 2767.7532 2072 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2767.7532 (pause 0.22) 2767.9723 2073 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2767.9723 any injuries, 2769.1147 2074 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2769.1147 (pause 1.00) 2770.1172 2075 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2770.1172 but the car was totaled. 2771.5568 2076 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2771.5568 (pause 0.19) 2771.7434 2077 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2771.7434 And 2772.3030 2078 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2772.3030 (pause 0.27) 2772.5734 2079 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2772.5734 I never actually saw the car again. 2774.5458 2080 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2774.5458 (pause 2.04) 2776.5882 2081 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2776.5882 But 2777.0265 2082 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2777.0265 (pause 0.93) 2777.9579 2083 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2777.9579 everybody that saw the car, 2780.1262 2084 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2780.1262 (pause 2.04) 2782.1639 2085 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2782.1639 just knew that whoever was in it 2784.0512 2086 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2784.0512 (pause 1.44) 2785.4874 2087 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2785.4874 was dead. 2786.3267 2088 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2786.3267 (pause 2.89) 2789.2119 2089 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2789.2119 But that was my sign from god that 2791.6442 2090 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2791.6442 (pause 1.89) 2793.5390 2091 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2793.5390 he spared me for a purpose. 2795.4695 2092 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2795.4695 (pause 2.32) 2797.7858 2093 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2797.7858 And 2798.1961 2094 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2798.1961 (pause 1.77) 2799.9680 2095 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2799.9680 it was up to me to decide to fulfill the purpose. 2803.2542 2096 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2803.2542 (pause 1.53) 2804.7883 2097 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2804.7883 And so, from that day to this one, although I have not been 2808.8998 2098 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2808.8998 (pause 0.61) 2809.5107 2099 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2809.5107 perfect. I've always 2810.9748 2100 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2810.9748 (pause 0.65) 2811.6230 2101 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2811.6230 strived to fulfill the purpose for which I feel like I'm here. 2815.3801 2102 VLD_int_01 2822.6717 Do you feel like we're relatively close? 2824.2058 2103 VLD_int_01 2824.2058 (pause 1.84) 2826.0419 2104 VLD_int_01 2826.0419 You- yeah. You and I. 2826.8672 2105 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2828.7184 Um, I- I think that we've, 2830.6721 2106 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2830.6721 (pause 0.37) 2831.0452 2107 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2831.0452 uh, 2831.4368 2108 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2831.4368 (pause 2.39) 2833.8278 2109 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2833.8278 managed to f- 2834.5412 2110 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2834.5412 (pause 0.20) 2834.7370 2111 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2834.7370 um, 2835.4271 2112 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2835.4271 (pause 1.09) 2836.5136 2113 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2836.5136 become close. Um, I 2838.5781 2114 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2838.5781 (pause 1.02) 2839.5993 2115 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2839.5993 feel like that- we 2841.4971 2116 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2841.4971 (pause 0.27) 2841.7629 2117 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2841.7629 may- 2842.2525 2118 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2842.2525 (pause 0.18) 2842.4297 2119 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2842.4297 may not 2842.9519 2120 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2842.9519 (pause 0.22) 2843.1746 2121 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2843.1746 always agree, on 2844.6574 2122 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2844.6574 (pause 0.30) 2844.9558 2123 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2844.9558 some things. [And-] 2846.2754 2124 VLD_int_01 2845.9537 [Most] things. 2847.0121 2125 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2847.1847 And we're not- 2848.1779 2126 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2848.1779 (pause 0.44) 2848.6197 2127 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2848.6197 we don't see each other 2849.9999 2128 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2849.9999 (pause 0.74) 2850.7413 2129 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2850.7413 often, but 2851.6412 2130 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2851.6412 (pause 0.42) 2852.0609 2131 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2852.0609 I've 2852.5878 2132 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2852.5878 (pause 2.10) 2854.6850 2133 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2854.6850 come to understand that 2856.6714 2134 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2856.6714 (pause 1.39) 2858.0609 2135 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2858.0609 we can always just 2859.3339 2136 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2859.3339 (pause 0.26) 2859.5950 2137 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2859.5950 seemingly pick up where we left off. 2861.6175 2138 VLD_int_01 2863.3335 So last year when I got sick, how- how'd you find out that I got sick? 2866.5556 2139 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2871.9634 When you got sick last year, um, 2874.5501 2140 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2874.5501 (pause 2.11) 2876.6579 2141 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2876.6579 you told me. 2877.7116 2142 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2877.7116 (pause 0.35) 2878.0660 2143 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2878.0660 Um, 2878.4856 2144 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2878.4856 (pause 0.25) 2878.7316 2145 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2878.7316 because, 2879.8827 2146 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2879.8827 (pause 2.20) 2882.0842 2147 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2882.0842 oh, you know. Even though we don't see each other often, we 2885.1244 2148 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2885.1244 (pause 0.20) 2885.3238 2149 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2885.3238 you know, periodically 2886.4848 2150 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2886.4848 (pause 0.96) 2887.4454 2151 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2887.4454 check on each other, but I- and I think that I reached out to you to check on you. 2892.1258 2152 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2892.1258 (pause 0.68) 2892.8066 2153 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2892.8066 And you told me that you had 2895.1380 2154 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2895.1380 (pause 1.05) 2896.1872 2155 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2896.1872 you know, had some illness 2897.7434 2156 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2897.7434 (pause 0.25) 2897.9952 2157 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2897.9952 and that's- and that's pretty much how I found out. Just 2900.9422 2158 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2900.9422 (pause 1.21) 2902.1499 2159 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2902.1499 you know, checking on you and seeing how things were going. 2904.8206 2160 VLD_int_01 2905.4641 Hm. 2905.5993 2161 VLD_int_01 2905.5993 (pause 0.90) 2906.4992 2162 VLD_int_01 2906.4992 And then you brought me coffee. 2907.6352 2163 VLD_se0_ag3_m_02 2908.3177 I did. 2909.0218 2164 VLD_int_01 2910.4522 I thought that was very nice. Thank you. 2912.2334