Line Spkr StTime Content EnTime 1 VLD_int_01 1.1270 Okay. 1.5654 2 VLD_int_01 1.5654 (pause 0.69) 2.2555 3 VLD_int_01 2.2555 So, 2.7264 4 VLD_int_01 2.7264 (pause 0.09) 2.8197 5 VLD_int_01 2.8197 tell me a little bit about 4.7536 6 VLD_int_01 4.7536 (pause 1.52) 6.2691 7 VLD_int_01 6.2691 growing up in Valdosta. You grew up, you said, in South Street. 9.0017 8 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 9.3747 [Yeah.] 9.6853 9 VLD_int_01 9.3747 [Can] you describe your house for me? 10.7783 10 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 11.7097 We had a small house at first, and then we moved 15.0204 11 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 15.0204 (pause 0.41) 15.4354 12 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 15.4354 to a larger house 16.6850 13 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 16.6850 (pause 0.22) 16.9042 14 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 16.9042 on South Street. /RD-ADDRESS-5/ 19.2811 15 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 19.2811 (pause 0.89) 20.1717 16 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 20.1717 And we was about a block from my 22.5265 17 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 22.5265 (pause 0.51) 23.0383 18 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 23.0383 elementary school, which was South Street Elementary School. 26.4841 19 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 26.4841 (pause 0.89) 27.3733 20 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 27.3733 Walking distance. 28.6696 21 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 28.6696 (pause 1.04) 29.7047 22 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 29.7047 So, we went there 30.6839 23 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 30.6839 (pause 0.13) 30.8145 24 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 30.8145 I went to- 31.3787 25 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 31.3787 (pause 0.27) 31.6492 26 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 31.6492 there for, until I was seventh grade. 34.8787 27 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 34.8787 (pause 0.63) 35.5129 28 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 35.5129 Then we had 36.4221 29 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 36.4221 (pause 0.08) 36.5049 30 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 36.5049 go 36.7380 31 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 36.7380 (pause 0.09) 36.8313 32 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 36.8313 to /RD-SCHOOL-4/ 38.4540 33 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 38.4540 (pause 0.07) 38.5286 34 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 38.5286 over on 39.0788 35 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 39.0788 (pause 0.31) 39.3866 36 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 39.3866 Troop Street. 40.2352 37 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 40.2352 (pause 1.60) 41.8346 38 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 41.8346 We walked there because there was no busses but we were close enough to walk to school. 47.0745 39 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 47.0745 (pause 0.16) 47.2331 40 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 47.2331 But some people didn't. They had to come from way cross town and 50.5006 41 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 50.5006 (pause 0.41) 50.9156 42 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 50.9156 Tom Town and everywhere, you know 52.9486 43 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 52.9486 (pause 0.18) 53.1305 44 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 53.1305 back over here. 54.0025 45 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 54.0025 (pause 0.34) 54.3430 46 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 54.3430 We only had two 55.3922 47 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 55.3922 (pause 0.63) 56.0264 48 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 56.0264 elementary school. That was Magnolia 58.1748 49 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 58.1748 (pause 0.21) 58.3846 50 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 58.3846 and South Street. 59.4431 51 VLD_int_01 60.2824 And neither of them are 61.3036 52 VLD_int_01 61.3036 (pause 0.31) 61.6114 53 VLD_int_01 61.6114 still. 62.1709 54 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 62.7631 No. 63.1511 55 VLD_int_01 63.1511 /Uh/. 63.3423 56 VLD_int_01 63.3423 (pause 0.38) 63.7200 57 VLD_int_01 63.7200 [I've never] heard of South S- 64.7458 58 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 63.8179 [No.] 64.0510 59 VLD_int_01 64.8904 South 65.3240 60 VLD_int_01 65.3240 (pause 0.13) 65.4546 61 VLD_int_01 65.4546 [Street School.] 66.2100 62 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 65.4639 [Mm-hm.] 65.9115 63 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 66.3452 Where I lived, So- 67.0260 64 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 67.0260 (pause 0.40) 67.4223 65 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 67.4223 South Street. Where the- where the south 69.2344 66 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 69.2344 (pause 0.79) 70.0224 67 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 70.0224 where'd you go down there, /over there/ Pineview? 72.1580 68 VLD_int_01 72.8341 Mm-hm. 73.3750 69 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 73.4403 That's was South Street 74.7354 70 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 74.7354 (pause 1.07) 75.8032 71 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 75.8032 campus. 76.5213 72 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 76.5213 (pause 0.38) 76.8990 73 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 76.8990 They tore it down 78.0881 74 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 78.0881 (pause 1.20) 79.2911 75 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 79.2911 and put 79.7469 76 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 79.7469 (pause 0.16) 79.9054 77 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 79.9054 e- 80.0547 78 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 80.0547 (pause 0.43) 80.4836 79 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 80.4836 that school there. 81.4255 80 VLD_int_01 81.7240 Oh. 82.1436 81 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 82.2182 [Mm-hm.] 82.6705 82 VLD_int_01 82.2695 [Okay.] 82.6705 83 VLD_int_01 83.2161 And, 83.8922 84 VLD_int_01 83.8922 (pause 0.11) 84.0041 85 VLD_int_01 84.0041 when you started going to schools, was it segregated? 86.1819 86 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 86.8627 Yes. 87.8559 87 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 87.8559 (pause 0.82) 88.6719 88 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 88.6719 We didn't know anything about the other side of town. (laughing) 91.3993 89 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 91.3993 (pause 0.39) 91.7863 90 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 91.7863 Well, 92.0987 91 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 92.0987 (pause 0.41) 92.5137 92 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 92.5137 what the white folks did. 94.7900 93 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 94.7900 (pause 0.74) 95.5286 94 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 95.5286 And we always had to get handy downs. 98.1426 95 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 98.1426 (pause 0.47) 98.6135 96 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 98.6135 You know, they would have the best 100.4449 97 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 100.4449 (pause 0.07) 100.5195 98 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 100.5195 books, 101.3682 99 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 101.3682 (pause 0.96) 102.3287 100 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 102.3287 desks, 103.2986 101 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 103.2986 (pause 0.69) 103.9887 102 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 103.9887 any kind of equipment. And we got 'em when they 106.4869 103 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 106.4869 (pause 0.46) 106.9485 104 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 106.9485 was getting new ones. 108.2728 105 VLD_int_01 108.3614 [Mm.] 108.6505 106 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 108.5525 [So,] we was able to get 109.7742 107 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 109.9281 their books. And now, we never had new books 112.4216 108 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 112.4216 (pause 0.24) 112.6641 109 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 112.6641 even through high school. 113.9930 110 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 113.9930 (pause 1.26) 115.2566 111 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 115.2566 finished /RD-SCHOOL-4/ in nineteen 117.6980 112 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 117.6980 (pause 1.05) 118.7518 113 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 118.7518 fifty-four. 119.9175 114 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 119.9175 (pause 0.67) 120.5890 115 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 120.5890 Still, 121.2791 116 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 121.2791 (pause 0.21) 121.4936 117 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 121.4936 had no 122.2058 118 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 122.2058 (pause 0.83) 123.0358 119 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 123.0358 new books. No new nothing. 124.8171 120 VLD_int_01 126.5423 Wow. 126.8501 121 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 126.9433 It was always hand me down. 128.5229 122 VLD_int_01 128.9612 Do you feel like you got a good education? 130.4254 123 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 131.0549 I think so, because 132.5796 124 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 132.5796 (pause 1.37) 133.9505 125 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 133.9505 during that time, the teachers was 135.8914 126 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 135.8914 (pause 0.28) 136.1666 127 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 136.1666 they were black too, you know. 137.5374 128 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 137.5374 (pause 0.37) 137.9058 129 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 137.9058 So, they always see that we 139.8771 130 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 139.8771 (pause 0.27) 140.1475 131 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 140.1475 learned 140.9822 132 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 140.9822 (pause 0.60) 141.5837 133 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 141.5837 and most of 'em knew your parents. 143.4115 134 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 143.4115 (pause 0.21) 143.6167 135 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 143.6167 So, if they knew your parents, they was gonna get with your parents and talk. 146.9542 136 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 146.9542 (pause 0.33) 147.2853 137 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 147.2853 It wasn't no such thing as PTA and 149.7006 138 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 149.7006 (pause 0.68) 150.3768 139 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 150.3768 stuff like that. But, they would just 152.0776 140 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 152.0776 (pause 0.11) 152.1895 141 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 152.1895 come back cause 153.2246 142 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 153.2246 (pause 0.30) 153.5277 143 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 153.5277 telephones wasn't in use. 154.9732 144 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 154.9732 (pause 0.48) 155.4488 145 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 155.4488 [] 155.7566 146 VLD_int_01 155.4488 [] 156.3395 147 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 156.4700 Telephones wasn't e- 157.9053 148 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 157.9053 (pause 0.36) 158.2690 149 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 158.2690 158.6560 150 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 158.6560 (pause 0.50) 159.1585 151 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 159.1585 First telephone we had, 160.7485 152 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 160.7485 (pause 0.46) 161.2055 153 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 161.2055 I think we had to put a quarter in it or something on the wall 164.4369 154 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 164.4369 (pause 0.42) 164.8565 155 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 164.8565 to use it. 165.6574 156 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 165.6574 (pause 0.69) 166.3429 157 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 166.3429 And that was real rare. 167.6904 158 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 167.6904 (pause 0.09) 167.7790 159 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 167.7790 You was a- 168.1894 160 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 168.1894 (pause 0.19) 168.3759 161 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 168.3759 you was something if you had a telephone. 170.7633 162 VLD_int_01 171.3497 171.7040 163 VLD_int_01 171.7040 (pause 0.28) 171.9838 164 VLD_int_01 171.9838 Now, how many of i- wa- how many were there? Were there- you. How many brothers and [sisters was it?] 175.8354 165 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 175.5789 [I had] six. Three girls and three boys. 178.0584 166 VLD_int_01 178.5993 And y'all all [lived in the-] 179.5086 167 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 179.1495 [All lived] in same house. 180.8935 168 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 181.5043 See, it wasn't no everybody had they own room. 183.9279 169 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 183.9279 (pause 0.44) 184.3708 170 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 184.3708 We had 184.7672 171 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 184.7672 (pause 0.19) 184.9537 172 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 184.9537 thr- 185.1076 173 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 185.1076 (pause 0.16) 185.2661 174 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 185.2661 two bedroom. 186.1474 175 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 186.1474 (pause 0.40) 186.5484 176 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 186.5484 The girls had a bedroom, the boys had a bedroom, 188.9813 177 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 188.9813 (pause 0.27) 189.2517 178 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 189.2517 and your parents had a bedroom. 190.6926 179 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 190.6926 (pause 0.55) 191.2475 180 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 191.2475 But, that was about it. 192.2127 181 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 192.2127 (pause 1.29) 193.4996 182 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 193.4996 We shared everything. 194.7120 183 VLD_int_01 195.1958 And what 195.5595 184 VLD_int_01 195.5595 (pause 0.13) 195.6854 185 VLD_int_01 195.6854 number are you? 196.3755 186 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 197.6158 Mm. 198.4971 187 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 198.4971 (pause 0.57) 199.0660 188 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 199.0660 I'm the 199.6115 189 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 199.6115 (pause 2.35) 201.9605 190 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 201.9605 Fourth one. 202.4921 191 VLD_int_01 202.7532 You're the [fourth.] 203.4008 192 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 203.3221 [Yeah.] 203.6345 193 VLD_int_01 203.7231 [Okay.] 204.0961 194 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 203.8396 [Mm-hm.] 204.2080 195 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 204.3199 Yeah. [Four.] 204.7582 196 VLD_int_01 204.6696 [So,] did you. You didn't have- 205.6349 197 VLD_int_01 205.7608 you didn't have as much responsibility because you weren't the oldest, 208.1220 198 VLD_int_01 208.1220 (pause 0.11) 208.2339 199 VLD_int_01 208.2339 but you weren't the baby either. 209.1711 200 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 209.2364 No. 209.6841 201 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 209.6841 (pause 0.11) 209.7913 202 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 209.7913 But, we all shared everything. Everybody had to 212.1880 203 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 212.1880 (pause 0.10) 212.2906 204 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 212.2906 do something. 212.9341 205 VLD_int_01 213.7117 So, what was your chores? Or what was your responsibility in the house? 216.7472 206 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 216.0004 216.0986 207 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 216.9990 Well, we all had to 218.2440 208 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 218.2440 (pause 0.25) 218.4958 209 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 218.4958 clean up the kitchen. We had a w- 220.0194 210 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 220.0194 (pause 0.34) 220.3598 211 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 220.3598 uh, 220.7934 212 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 220.7934 (pause 1.04) 221.8379 213 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 221.8379 a week a piece to 222.6912 214 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 222.6912 (pause 0.19) 222.8778 215 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 222.8778 clean the kitchen. 223.7777 216 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 223.7777 (pause 1.13) 224.9061 217 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 224.9061 And one, um, 226.1267 218 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 226.1267 (pause 0.35) 226.4810 219 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 226.4810 my oldest sister, I think, she used to iron, but we all help washed. 230.5098 220 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 230.5098 (pause 0.56) 231.0740 221 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 231.0740 Cause it wasn't no washing machines inside. You [had the rub] bowls and 234.8451 222 VLD_int_01 233.4463 [] 234.0851 223 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 236.7989 Had three tubs. 238.0651 224 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 238.0651 (pause 0.22) 238.2842 225 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 238.2842 238.6073 226 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 238.6073 (pause 0.65) 239.2601 227 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 239.2601 A ru- a rub bowl tub and then 241.3603 228 VLD_int_01 239.4040 [/inaudible/] 239.6698 229 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 241.4452 two wrenching tubs, you hung them out 243.3337 230 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 243.3337 (pause 0.69) 244.0284 231 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 244.0284 and even they had those old 245.4693 232 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 245.4693 (pause 0.21) 245.6791 233 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 245.6791 big 245.9589 234 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 245.9589 (pause 0.34) 246.2993 235 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 246.2993 pots, you know, people used to ball clothes. A- 248.8295 236 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 248.8295 (pause 0.21) 249.0393 237 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 249.0393 I don't know why. 249.8973 238 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 249.8973 (pause 0.25) 250.1444 239 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 250.1444 But, they did. 250.9045 240 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 250.9045 (pause 0.53) 251.4360 241 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 251.4360 Cause I thought they were tearing them up, balling them. 253.5805 242 VLD_int_01 253.7111 [Hm.] 254.2053 243 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 253.9431 [] 254.8244 244 VLD_int_01 254.6285 [To make] the water real [high?] 255.7056 245 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 255.6077 [Uh-huh.] 256.3584 246 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 256.4937 Mm-hm. 256.8760 247 VLD_int_01 256.8993 Oh, like the [cauldron?] 257.8925 248 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 257.6827 [Yeah.] 258.2096 249 VLD_int_01 258.3588 And they would 258.7785 250 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 260.1074 I s- It was something like a 261.3699 251 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 261.3699 (pause 0.12) 261.4865 252 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 261.4865 kettle. 261.9201 253 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 261.9201 (pause 0.18) 262.0973 254 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 262.0973 A big old 262.9040 255 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 262.9040 (pause 0.82) 263.7200 256 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 263.7200 iron pot. 264.4801 257 VLD_int_01 264.5966 Mm-hm. 264.9976 258 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 265.0816 And they 265.4126 259 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 265.4126 (pause 0.08) 265.4919 260 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 265.4919 put that water in and then put fire up under. 267.7616 261 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 267.7616 (pause 1.78) 269.5428 262 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 269.5428 And had a s- 270.1630 263 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 270.1630 (pause 0.15) 270.3122 264 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 270.3122 something called a balance stick they keep jugging in there (laughing). 274.0181 265 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 274.0181 (pause 0.94) 274.9600 266 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 274.9600 [I-] 275.1092 267 VLD_int_01 274.9600 [But] y'all didn't do that? 275.8086 268 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 275.9298 No. 276.3215 269 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 276.3215 (pause 0.35) 276.6759 270 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 276.6759 Mm-mm. 277.0489 271 VLD_int_01 277.1702 And your clothes was just fine? 278.2846 272 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 278.4152 Just [fine.] 278.9654 273 VLD_int_01 278.8442 [And] then you hung them up on the [line?] 280.2512 274 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 280.1113 [A line.] 280.8014 275 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 280.9786 Mm-hm. 281.2817 276 VLD_int_01 281.6314 So, 282.3309 277 VLD_int_01 282.3309 (pause 1.14) 283.4733 278 VLD_int_01 283.4733 going back to school, what was your 284.5178 279 VLD_int_01 284.5178 (pause 0.11) 284.6230 280 VLD_int_01 284.6230 favorite subject and who was your favorite teacher? 286.6719 281 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 288.2796 Mm. 288.7039 282 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 288.7039 (pause 1.55) 290.2566 283 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 290.2566 Okay, I’m’a go back that far. 291.5789 284 VLD_int_01 291.6348 292.8798 285 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 294.2869 Mm. 294.4501 286 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 294.4501 (pause 0.39) 294.8371 287 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 294.8371 Well, I had one teacher. Ms. /RD-NAME-2/. 297.3551 288 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 297.3551 (pause 0.96) 298.3145 289 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 298.3145 /RD-NAME-4/. 299.6714 290 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 299.6714 (pause 0.54) 300.2076 291 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 300.2076 She was my third grade teacher. 302.0122 292 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 302.0122 (pause 0.79) 302.8049 293 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 302.8049 She was always just so. 304.0685 294 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 304.0685 (pause 0.33) 304.3949 295 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 304.3949 She had no children, and she likeded all children. 307.3155 296 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 307.3155 (pause 0.07) 307.3854 297 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 307.3854 You know how she just 308.4905 298 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 308.4905 (pause 0.11) 308.5978 299 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 308.5978 was just a mother-like 309.7064 300 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 309.7064 (pause 0.16) 309.8649 301 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 309.8649 [teacher.] 310.3359 302 VLD_int_01 310.0090 [Mm.] 310.2833 303 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 310.8155 I remember that in 311.9726 304 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 311.9726 (pause 0.11) 312.0845 305 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 312.0845 third grade. 312.9611 306 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 312.9611 (pause 3.76) 316.7229 307 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 316.7229 And when I got to high school, 318.4342 308 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 318.4342 (pause 1.34) 319.7724 309 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 319.7724 Mrs./RD-NAME-2/. 321.1620 310 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 321.1620 (pause 0.92) 322.0826 311 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 322.0826 /She/ lived on Magnolia Street. 323.7441 312 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 323.7441 (pause 1.06) 324.8072 313 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 324.8072 She was our 325.4787 314 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 325.4787 (pause 0.19) 325.6652 315 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 325.6652 third grade teacher. She was strict. 327.4546 316 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 327.4546 (pause 0.06) 327.5152 317 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 327.5152 But, if you 328.6017 318 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 328.6017 (pause 0.62) 329.2218 319 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 329.2218 would get her lesson, you would pass. You know? 331.6605 320 VLD_int_01 331.7417 [Mm-hm. 332.0290 321 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 331.8890 [You] had to study. 332.8309 322 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 333.0128 And she see that you study, 334.5970 323 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 334.5970 (pause 0.78) 335.3804 324 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 335.3804 And my 335.7814 325 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 335.7814 (pause 0.18) 335.9632 326 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 335.9632 a- other teacher was my English teacher. Ms. /RD-NAME-5/. 339.0781 327 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 339.0781 (pause 1.92) 340.9934 328 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 340.9934 And. 341.4177 329 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 341.4177 (pause 0.53) 341.9493 330 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 341.9493 She was struck. 342.8259 331 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 342.8259 (pause 0.61) 343.4367 332 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 343.4367 But, she was a good. [] 345.9498 333 VLD_int_01 344.1735 [] 345.9498 334 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 347.0583 Uh-huh. 347.5432 335 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 347.5432 (pause 1.16) 348.7043 336 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 348.7043 Yeah. So, 349.5576 337 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 349.5576 (pause 0.73) 350.2920 338 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 350.2920 that's about it about that school, I think. 352.4742 339 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 352.4742 (pause 0.20) 352.6701 340 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 352.6701 Just put it right [together] right now. 354.4140 341 VLD_int_01 353.6400 [/Together/.] 353.9884 342 VLD_int_01 354.6705 Did you, um, so, going back 356.1441 343 VLD_int_01 356.1441 (pause 0.23) 356.3772 344 VLD_int_01 356.3772 to your neighborhood, did you play outside a lot, or were y'all in the house a lot? 359.6261 345 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 359.6727 Oh no. You always played outside. That's one thing. When you, get through eating breakfast in the morning, the f- 364.9892 346 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 364.9892 (pause 0.28) 365.2736 347 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 365.2736 t- cleaning or whatever you had to do, you had to go outside and play. 368.6437 348 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 368.6437 (pause 0.77) 369.4131 349 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 369.4131 And you only came in when they call you. 371.4450 350 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 371.4450 (pause 0.56) 372.0092 351 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 372.0092 So, you made your own toys. 373.8837 352 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 373.8837 (pause 0.36) 374.2474 353 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 374.2474 Whatever you was gonna play with (laughing). 376.4949 354 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 376.4949 (pause 0.60) 377.0964 355 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 377.0964 And. 377.3657 356 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 377.3657 (pause 0.12) 377.4823 357 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 377.4823 Uh. 377.9113 358 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 377.9113 (pause 0.11) 378.0232 359 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 378.0232 We had a little neighborhood where 379.6272 360 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 379.6272 (pause 1.23) 380.8535 361 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 380.8535 everybody had children. 382.3410 362 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 382.3410 (pause 0.09) 382.4296 363 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 382.4296 So, we h- had a baseball game 384.6247 364 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 384.6247 (pause 0.14) 384.7646 365 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 384.7646 in the middle of the road, South Street. 386.8256 366 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 386.8256 (pause 0.67) 387.4970 367 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 387.4970 Cars had- 388.1172 368 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 388.1172 (pause 0.40) 388.5135 369 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 388.5135 Well, it wasn't too many cars back then [no way.] 390.9651 370 VLD_int_01 390.5920 [Right.] 390.8299 371 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 391.2682 So, everybody played in the streets. 393.3152 372 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 393.3152 (pause 0.83) 394.1498 373 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 394.1498 So. 394.4762 374 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 394.4762 (pause 1.07) 395.5476 375 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 395.5476 Yeah, we had a 396.0791 376 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 396.0791 (pause 0.09) 396.1724 377 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 396.1724 pretty good 396.6993 378 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 396.6993 (pause 0.65) 397.3474 379 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 397.3474 neighborhoods. And people 398.7696 380 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 398.7696 (pause 0.26) 399.0307 381 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 399.0307 got- 399.3059 382 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 399.3059 (pause 0.14) 399.4411 383 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 399.4411 got along together. 400.6255 384 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 400.6255 (pause 0.59) 401.2130 385 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 401.2130 We'd fight, some of 'em fight, but the next day, they right back together. It wasn't [like the people holding] grudges like they do now. 407.7237 386 VLD_int_01 405.0826 [] 406.1276 387 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 407.8403 408.2227 388 VLD_int_01 409.1366 Was it a lot of crime? 410.5048 389 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 411.0551 No. 411.5353 390 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 411.5353 (pause 0.35) 411.8804 391 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 411.8804 No, you didn't he- ever hear about crime. 414.0522 392 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 414.0522 (pause 0.52) 414.5744 393 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 414.5744 Mm-mm. 415.0360 394 VLD_int_01 416.1365 Did you- 416.4815 395 VLD_int_01 416.4815 (pause 0.90) 417.3768 396 VLD_int_01 417.3768 417.4747 397 VLD_int_01 417.4747 (pause 0.20) 417.6706 398 VLD_int_01 417.6706 I don't know when they actually started, but like, the newspaper. Did y'all get a like a newspaper every day- did [the.] 422.2301 399 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 422.0751 [Oh.] No. 423.0077 400 VLD_int_01 423.0916 [No.] 423.2688 401 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 423.1616 [Mm.] What is a newspaper? (laughing) We didn't know what that- what that was. 426.6203 402 VLD_int_01 426.8301 Oh, really? 427.4410 403 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 427.4736 Mm-mm. 427.9586 404 VLD_int_01 427.9586 What about the milk man? 429.0637 405 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 429.5719 Yeah we used to have a milk man. 431.2634 406 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 431.2634 (pause 0.08) 431.3473 407 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 431.3473 He used to come. 432.2007 408 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 432.2007 (pause 0.67) 432.8674 409 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 432.8674 Vallotton Dairy, that was the milk 434.5274 410 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 434.5274 (pause 0.15) 434.6767 411 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 434.6767 company, cause I think we just only had one. 437.1608 412 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 437.1608 (pause 2.13) 439.2918 413 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 439.2918 Yeah, cause one of my brothers, when he got about fourteen, 442.6666 414 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 442.6666 (pause 0.42) 443.0862 415 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 443.0862 he started working on the milk 444.6576 416 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 444.6576 (pause 0.47) 445.1239 417 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 445.1239 truck. 445.4550 418 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 445.4550 (pause 0.32) 445.7767 419 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 445.7767 Had to get up four o'clock in the morning to 448.0492 420 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 448.0492 (pause 0.96) 449.0050 421 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 449.0050 go get the milk out I guess before everybody got 451.4904 422 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 451.4904 (pause 0.18) 451.6711 423 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 451.6711 up and 452.2353 424 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 452.2353 (pause 0.33) 452.5664 425 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 452.5664 out of the street. 453.3124 426 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 453.3124 (pause 0.43) 453.7414 427 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 453.7414 Mm-hm. 454.0678 428 VLD_int_01 454.5667 And so, they would deliver the 455.9003 429 VLD_int_01 455.9003 (pause 0.36) 456.2594 430 VLD_int_01 456.2594 what would they 456.6744 431 VLD_int_01 456.6744 (pause 0.07) 456.7490 432 VLD_int_01 456.7490 like, they would [deliver it in a-] 457.5460 433 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 457.1045 [In a jar.] 457.8445 434 VLD_int_01 458.2455 The [jar.] 458.7351 435 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 458.4600 [They] was in jars, see. 459.8712 436 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 460.1743 Mm-hm. 460.5566 437 VLD_int_01 461.0218 And you just paid every 462.3507 438 VLD_int_01 462.3507 (pause 0.17) 462.5232 439 VLD_int_01 462.5232 time? Or like, you paid like for the week? How did? 464.7661 440 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 465.1857 That- we paid about a m- 466.3981 441 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 466.3981 (pause 1.45) 467.8477 442 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 467.8477 I believe they paid about a month. 469.6196 443 VLD_int_01 471.2469 And they would deliver it every day? 472.3800 444 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 472.9524 No. 473.4047 445 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 473.4047 (pause 0.08) 473.4886 446 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 473.4886 Three times a week. 474.6031 447 VLD_int_01 474.8549 Okay. 475.1626 448 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 475.1626 Mm-hm. 475.5450 449 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 475.9040 Yeah. 476.1698 450 VLD_int_01 476.8739 What grocery stores did you guys have? 478.4966 451 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 479.9782 We had two 481.0973 452 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 481.0973 (pause 0.07) 481.1673 453 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 481.1673 down here on Lee Street. Mrs. 483.3029 454 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 483.3029 (pause 0.32) 483.6200 455 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 483.6200 /RD-NAME-4/ 484.7251 456 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 484.7251 (pause 0.92) 485.6425 457 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 485.6425 Eli Power, 486.8595 458 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 486.8595 (pause 1.84) 488.7014 459 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 488.7014 and /Hender Buckles/, right there on that corner there. 491.3898 460 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 491.3898 (pause 0.13) 491.5204 461 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 491.5204 That was the neighborhoods. 492.5649 462 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 492.5649 (pause 0.33) 492.8959 463 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 492.8959 Oh this, 493.3949 464 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 493.3949 (pause 0.29) 493.6886 465 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 493.6886 I- 493.8332 466 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 493.8332 (pause 0.13) 493.9591 467 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 493.9591 place over here, and was Copeland 495.4780 468 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 495.4780 (pause 0.30) 495.7765 469 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 495.7765 Grocery Store. 496.5925 470 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 496.5925 (pause 1.90) 498.4903 471 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 498.4903 Yeah. 498.7188 472 VLD_int_01 499.1244 But that was only on 499.9684 473 VLD_int_01 499.9684 (pause 0.20) 500.1643 474 VLD_int_01 500.1643 For this side of [town?] 501.1340 475 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 500.9838 [Yeah.] 501.2542 476 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 501.7671 Mm-hm. 502.1635 477 VLD_int_01 502.5319 So, 503.1427 478 VLD_int_01 503.1427 (pause 0.28) 503.4178 479 VLD_int_01 503.4178 at what point- 504.3178 480 VLD_int_01 504.3178 (pause 0.55) 504.8633 481 VLD_int_01 504.8633 Mm-mm. 505.1058 482 VLD_int_01 505.1058 (pause 0.15) 505.2550 483 VLD_int_01 505.2550 Let's go to beauty. So, how did you decide to leave 507.3615 484 VLD_int_01 507.3615 (pause 0.55) 507.9070 485 VLD_int_01 507.9070 Valdosta? 508.4573 486 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 509.0914 Well, I got married right after 510.5882 487 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 510.5882 (pause 0.18) 510.7701 488 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 510.7701 finished high school. Nine, 512.3741 489 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 512.3741 (pause 0.69) 513.0630 490 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 513.0630 ten months after I finished high school, I got married. 515.7162 491 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 515.7162 (pause 0.91) 516.6302 492 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 516.6302 My husband and I moved to 518.1316 493 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 518.1316 (pause 0.16) 518.2948 494 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 518.2948 Tampa. 518.8952 495 VLD_int_01 522.3830 And wha- why did you move to Ta- wha- 523.8425 496 VLD_int_01 523.8425 (pause 0.10) 523.9451 497 VLD_int_01 523.9451 What made you move to. 524.8206 498 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 525.1796 [Well, that's where] he had a job. 526.9296 499 VLD_int_01 525.1796 [/did he/ want-] 525.8184 500 VLD_int_01 526.9842 [Oh okay.] 527.3665 501 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 527.2220 [In] Tampa, so we moved to Tampa. 529.1198 502 VLD_int_01 529.4555 Okay. So, [tell me] about 530.5932 503 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 529.9684 [Mm-hm.] 530.2762 504 VLD_int_01 530.6679 Tampa. 531.0957 505 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 532.3453 Oh. 533.2453 506 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 533.2453 (pause 1.13) 534.3737 507 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 534.3737 Now, Tampa. When I got to Tampa, I start having children, so (laughing). 538.5179 508 VLD_int_01 538.6018 540.4716 509 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 540.9706 541.2550 510 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 541.2550 (pause 0.43) 541.6840 511 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 541.6840 They just two years apart, and 543.5993 512 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 543.5993 (pause 0.14) 543.7438 513 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 543.7438 and the last two, just thirteen months apart. 546.3784 514 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 546.3784 (pause 0.73) 547.1104 515 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 547.1104 So, I- 547.5907 516 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 547.5907 (pause 0.14) 547.7353 517 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 547.7353 I was just a housewife. 549.0491 518 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 549.0491 (pause 1.62) 550.6717 519 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 550.6717 But, I did go to, um, 552.4110 520 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 552.4110 (pause 0.28) 552.6908 521 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 552.6908 I g- m- started working at the coffee shop at /RD-WORK-4/. 556.0516 522 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 556.0516 (pause 1.05) 557.1054 523 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 557.1054 I worked there a little. 557.8888 524 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 557.8888 (pause 0.33) 558.2198 525 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 558.2198 About 558.4903 526 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 558.4903 (pause 0.37) 558.8586 527 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 558.8586 eight or nine months. 560.1596 528 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 560.1596 (pause 1.73) 561.8930 529 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 561.8930 That's the only 562.5085 530 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 562.5085 (pause 0.21) 562.7137 531 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 562.7137 job I ever had there down in Tampa (laughing). 565.0778 532 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 565.0778 (pause 0.71) 565.7912 533 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 565.7912 Cause I tried a maid job one time, but I wasn't never a maid. 569.2872 534 VLD_int_01 569.4365 [Mm-mm.] 569.7722 535 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 569.6276 [I] couldn't- 570.1079 536 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 570.5835 I couldn't tell you 571.2690 537 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 571.2690 (pause 1.10) 572.3694 538 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 572.3694 stand and help and 573.3102 539 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 573.3102 (pause 0.07) 573.3848 540 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 573.3848 tell you how to do 574.1821 541 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 574.1821 (pause 0.11) 574.2941 542 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 574.2941 things, you know. 575.6696 543 VLD_int_01 575.8934 That wasn't your calling? 576.7281 544 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 576.7281 No, I- I couldn't be no maid, so 579.1548 545 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 579.6071 I didn't do that. 580.3298 546 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 580.3298 (pause 0.29) 580.6189 547 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 580.6189 But, you know, I always did hair. 582.2871 548 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 582.2871 (pause 1.25) 583.5414 549 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 583.5414 So, when I- 584.2735 550 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 584.2735 (pause 0.49) 584.7677 551 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 584.7677 even in high school, 585.9288 552 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 585.9288 (pause 0.50) 586.4324 553 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 586.4324 I used to do 587.0246 554 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 587.0246 (pause 0.51) 587.5375 555 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 587.5375 um, 588.1985 556 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 588.1985 (pause 0.88) 589.0751 557 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 589.0751 the students' hair. 590.1569 558 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 590.1569 (pause 0.28) 590.4367 559 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 590.4367 in school at South Street, if they come to school in all kind of old braids in there, I take it loose 595.3968 560 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 595.3968 (pause 0.40) 595.7979 561 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 595.7979 and make 'em 596.2968 562 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 596.2968 (pause 0.08) 596.3807 563 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 596.3807 pony tails. 597.2434 564 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 597.2434 (pause 0.32) 597.5651 565 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 597.5651 You know. 597.9568 566 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 597.9568 (pause 0.36) 598.3205 567 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 598.3205 They go home and get a beating because they done took their hair loose. 601.0798 568 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 601.0798 (pause 0.09) 601.1684 569 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 601.1684 601.7989 570 VLD_int_01 601.9331 [] 605.0945 571 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 601.9382 [Back then, you had to look like you left home.] 604.5956 572 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 605.7695 But, 606.0353 573 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 606.0353 (pause 0.25) 606.2824 574 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 606.2824 we was go in the basement. They had a basement 608.8710 575 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 608.8710 (pause 0.13) 609.0055 576 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 609.0055 in /RD-SCHOOL-2/. 609.9381 577 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 609.9381 (pause 0.38) 610.3158 578 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 610.3158 Go down there, and I make 'em all a pony tail, and I think I was in the fourth grade. 614.2710 579 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 614.2710 (pause 1.52) 615.7958 580 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 615.7958 When I really started messing with hair. 617.8323 581 VLD_int_01 617.8447 Mm-hm. 618.1950 582 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 618.2660 Mm-hm. 618.7509 583 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 618.7509 (pause 0.48) 619.2312 584 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 619.2312 And about time I got in high school, 621.6093 585 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 621.6093 (pause 0.58) 622.1922 586 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 622.1922 I had customers 623.6458 587 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 623.6458 (pause 0.66) 624.3080 588 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 624.3080 come on F- 624.8955 589 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 624.8955 (pause 1.41) 626.3083 590 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 626.3083 Friday evenings and Saturday mornings and get they little hair done. 630.0841 591 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 630.0841 (pause 1.41) 631.4970 592 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 631.4970 I had three old ladies I used to do their hair 633.8611 593 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 633.8611 (pause 0.32) 634.1828 594 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 634.1828 /at/ once a month, that's all I could do. 636.7522 595 VLD_int_01 637.0087 And how much would you [charge?] 637.9972 596 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 637.7250 [Fifty] cents. 639.2329 597 VLD_int_01 639.2702 Fifty cents. 640.0909 598 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 640.1515 Yeah, if I made two dollars that week, I was making some money. 643.4855 599 VLD_int_01 644.4834 So wha- two dollars. Put that in context. What was two dollars like today, what would that be? 648.2370 600 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 648.3862 Oh. Goodn- 649.0658 601 VLD_int_01 649.4575 [You was] 649.7839 602 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 649.5368 I- 649.6813 603 VLD_int_01 649.8772 making good money. 650.5954 604 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 650.4974 Mm, uh-huh. And that'd have been 651.4859 605 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 651.5978 two hundred dollars almost, you know? 653.8593 606 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 653.8593 (pause 0.09) 653.9479 607 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 653.9479 To now. 654.4002 608 VLD_int_01 654.6881 [Mm-hm.] 655.5788 609 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 655.1638 [Mm-hm] cause 655.9798 610 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 656.6186 everything was 657.7237 611 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 657.7237 (pause 0.83) 658.5490 612 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 658.5490 ten, fifteen cent, you know. 660.4655 613 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 660.4655 (pause 0.66) 661.1265 614 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 661.1265 But. 661.2990 615 VLD_int_01 662.6046 And so, you started doing hair, then you started getting customers. So, what made say you know, what, I’m’a go to 666.4142 616 VLD_int_01 666.4142 (pause 0.12) 666.5308 617 VLD_int_01 666.5308 I’m’a go to beauty school and 667.8984 618 VLD_int_01 667.8984 (pause 0.48) 668.3740 619 VLD_int_01 668.3740 instead of working at the coffee shop, and you [know that] you weren't gonna be a maid. 670.9727 620 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 670.0214 [Mm.] 670.2453 621 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 670.2453 (pause 0.73) 670.9727 622 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 670.9727 Mm-hm. 671.5322 623 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 672.1990 So, I- 672.5755 624 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 672.5755 (pause 0.13) 672.7014 625 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 672.7014 that made me go to school, so I- 674.2076 626 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 674.2076 (pause 0.13) 674.3335 627 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 674.3335 I- 674.4827 628 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 674.4827 (pause 0.20) 674.6832 629 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 674.6832 I did hair a while, when I got back here 677.1032 630 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 677.1032 (pause 0.40) 677.5042 631 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 677.5042 cause I, when I 678.1291 632 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 678.1291 (pause 0.11) 678.2363 633 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 678.2363 first got here, I moved 679.3127 634 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 679.3127 (pause 0.32) 679.6344 635 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 679.6344 uh, my daddy moved me in the project 681.6955 636 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 681.6955 (pause 0.51) 682.2037 637 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 682.2037 cause they didn't have a house. 683.4720 638 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 683.4720 (pause 1.07) 684.5389 639 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 684.5389 I stayed out there eight months 685.9937 640 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 685.9937 (pause 0.52) 686.5159 641 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 686.5159 before I moved here. 687.6945 642 VLD_int_01 687.8344 Mm-hm. 688.1981 643 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 689.7135 And then I babysit for my sisters. 692.4180 644 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 692.4180 (pause 0.56) 692.9811 645 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 692.9811 Yeah, one had four children, the other had 695.1400 646 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 695.1400 (pause 0.41) 695.5457 647 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 695.5457 two. 695.9327 648 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 695.9327 (pause 0.91) 696.8405 649 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 696.8405 Yeah, so I babysit for them for eight months out there in the project. 700.2307 650 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 700.2307 (pause 0.20) 700.4266 651 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 700.4266 Cause they were working 701.5410 652 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 701.5410 (pause 0.77) 702.3104 653 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 702.3104 and I wasn't working. 703.5367 654 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 703.5367 (pause 2.46) 705.9929 655 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 705.9929 Then when I moved here in sixty-one. 709.4528 656 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 709.4528 (pause 0.68) 710.1289 657 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 710.1289 Sixty-two, 710.9578 658 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 710.9578 (pause 1.51) 712.4639 659 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 712.4639 I went to Pinevale 713.6669 660 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 713.6669 (pause 0.88) 714.5435 661 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 714.5435 Beauty School. I- 715.4435 662 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 715.4435 (pause 0.42) 715.8631 663 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 715.8631 Cause I was doing hair, you know, in the kitchen, and you know how people would 718.9934 664 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 718.9934 (pause 0.43) 719.4186 665 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 719.4186 during that time they would turn you up. The licensed beauticians would 723.4893 666 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 723.4893 (pause 0.37) 723.8577 667 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 723.8577 if uh, 724.3426 668 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 724.3426 (pause 0.17) 724.5152 669 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 724.5152 the state people came about 726.1192 670 VLD_int_01 726.2358 [Mm-hm.] 726.5668 671 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 726.3011 [and they] 726.5855 672 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 726.7813 knew somebody was doing hair at the house, they would 729.4287 673 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 729.4287 (pause 0.81) 730.2354 674 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 730.2354 you know, report you. 731.2612 675 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 731.2612 (pause 0.95) 732.2078 676 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 732.2078 And so, 732.9306 677 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 732.9306 (pause 0.44) 733.3735 678 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 733.3735 I- 733.8212 679 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 733.8212 (pause 0.39) 734.2128 680 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 734.2128 they 734.3621 681 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 734.3621 (pause 0.26) 734.6220 682 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 734.6220 did report me one time. 736.3287 683 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 736.3287 (pause 1.01) 737.3358 684 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 737.3358 And I knew the lady done it. This beauty shop down there. 740.3523 685 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 740.3523 (pause 0.23) 740.5854 686 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 740.5854 740.8139 687 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 740.8139 (pause 0.82) 741.6299 688 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 741.6299 So, I 742.0671 689 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 742.0671 (pause 0.09) 742.1557 690 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 742.1557 start going to school, so it took uh, e- 744.0954 691 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 744.0954 (pause 0.19) 744.2819 692 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 744.2819 eighteen months, mm, 745.3964 693 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 745.3964 (pause 0.09) 745.4896 694 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 745.4896 two years 746.3476 695 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 746.3476 (pause 0.10) 746.4502 696 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 746.4502 to finish. 747.1123 697 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 747.1123 (pause 0.27) 747.3828 698 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 747.3828 So, I finished it in 748.2396 699 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 748.2396 (pause 0.20) 748.4401 700 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 748.4401 sixty-one, 749.8856 701 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 749.8856 (pause 0.90) 750.7902 702 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 750.7902 sixty-two. 751.5456 703 VLD_int_01 751.8394 Mm-hm. 752.2497 704 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 752.3523 Mm-hm. 752.7486 705 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 752.7486 (pause 2.62) 755.3727 706 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 755.3727 And I've been r- here ever since. 757.2145 707 VLD_int_01 757.2472 Did you- 757.5363 708 VLD_int_01 757.5363 (pause 0.24) 757.7741 709 VLD_int_01 757.7741 but you didn't start with your own shop, you started working at 759.8397 710 VLD_int_01 759.8397 (pause 0.33) 760.1728 711 VLD_int_01 760.1728 the lady's shop? Or you started your own shop [right away?] 762.3801 712 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 761.8205 [I started] my own shop. 763.4619 713 VLD_int_01 764.0110 In sixty-two? 764.8736 714 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 764.9435 Mm-hm. 765.4098 715 VLD_int_01 766.4403 In this same shop right [now?] 767.5734 716 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 767.3916 [] 767.5175 717 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 767.6107 This same shop right here, this house, 769.5785 718 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 769.5785 (pause 0.07) 769.6519 719 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 769.6519 this shop wasn't built on here, this house was just straight 773.2983 720 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 773.2983 (pause 0.90) 774.1982 721 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 774.1982 back then. 774.7858 722 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 774.7858 (pause 0.56) 775.3500 723 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 775.3500 So, oh, uh. 776.5845 724 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 776.5845 (pause 2.42) 778.9999 725 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 778.9999 I think it was Mr. Scott. He had 780.7998 726 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 780.7998 (pause 0.68) 781.4759 727 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 781.4759 this 781.6939 728 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 781.6939 (pause 0.42) 782.1135 729 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 782.1135 uh, 782.5099 730 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 782.5099 (pause 0.07) 782.5752 731 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 782.5752 cottoners were coming, they 783.8062 732 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 783.8062 (pause 0.20) 784.0067 733 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 784.0067 added this here shop. He said 785.6340 734 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 785.6340 (pause 0.38) 786.0164 735 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 786.0164 I di- 786.2962 736 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 786.2962 (pause 0.09) 786.3856 737 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 786.3856 Cause this was a driveway. Like, 788.1369 738 VLD_int_01 788.3280 Mm-hm. 788.7710 739 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 789.1487 so, he said, you can put a shop there. 791.1258 740 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 791.1258 (pause 0.73) 791.8579 741 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 791.8579 So, they ma- 792.4361 742 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 792.4361 (pause 0.13) 792.5666 743 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 792.5666 they built this shop here. 793.9768 744 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 793.9768 (pause 0.18) 794.1540 745 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 794.1540 Two old mens. 795.4503 746 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 795.4503 (pause 0.48) 795.9306 747 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 795.9306 It wasn't never fixed like it's supposed to be, cause 798.4194 748 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 798.4194 (pause 0.14) 798.5587 749 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 798.5587 old timey 799.2914 750 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 799.2914 (pause 0.66) 799.9520 751 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 799.9520 uh, carpenters, you know they didn't measure nothing. They just fit it. [] 803.7341 752 VLD_int_01 803.0103 [] 804.4558 753 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 804.5735 So, 804.9034 754 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 804.9034 (pause 0.31) 805.2112 755 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 805.2112 it got burned in 806.5121 756 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 806.5121 (pause 0.78) 807.2943 757 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 807.2943 in seve- 808.0917 758 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 808.0917 (pause 0.24) 808.3295 759 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 808.3295 two thou- 808.8611 760 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 808.8611 (pause 0.34) 809.1968 761 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 809.1968 ninet- 809.5978 762 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 809.5978 (pause 0.33) 809.9289 763 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 809.9289 when was it? Two thou- 810.9407 764 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 810.9407 (pause 2.02) 812.9633 765 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 812.9633 Nineteen seventy-nine. 814.6979 766 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 814.6979 (pause 0.50) 815.2015 767 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 815.2015 It got burned. 816.1294 768 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 816.1294 (pause 1.04) 817.1739 769 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 817.1739 And um, 817.8407 770 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 817.8407 (pause 0.44) 818.2778 771 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 818.2778 I had to have it redone over 820.2129 772 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 820.2129 (pause 1.35) 821.5652 773 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 821.5652 and the carpenters that 822.5677 774 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 822.5677 (pause 0.30) 822.8708 775 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 822.8708 got there. And they say well, 824.3256 776 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 824.3256 (pause 0.43) 824.7534 777 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 824.7534 I just don't see how you stayed in tha- in this little place all this long time. 829.2904 778 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 829.2904 (pause 0.36) 829.6495 779 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 829.6495 Nothing was measured or fi- 832.0497 780 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 832.0497 (pause 0.46) 832.5113 781 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 832.5113 but, they fixed it. You know, [like it is now.] 834.9361 782 VLD_int_01 833.8030 [Right. Mm-hm.] 834.6236 783 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 835.6926 So, 836.1916 784 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 836.1916 (pause 0.46) 836.6532 785 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 836.6532 that's about 837.1836 786 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 837.1836 (pause 0.12) 837.3048 787 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 837.3048 cause I got. 837.8691 788 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 837.8691 (pause 0.74) 838.6058 789 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 838.6058 My 838.8203 790 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 838.8203 (pause 0.14) 838.9555 791 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 838.9555 shop caught on fire. That's what happened. 841.0025 792 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 841.0025 (pause 1.37) 842.3734 793 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 842.3734 I left the TV on, and I went in- 844.4379 794 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 844.4379 (pause 0.14) 844.5778 795 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 844.5778 in the kitchen 845.3612 796 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 845.3612 (pause 0.18) 845.5430 797 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 845.5430 for lunch, 846.1632 798 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 846.1632 (pause 0.27) 846.4290 799 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 846.4290 and when I come back, 847.5341 800 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 847.5341 (pause 0.15) 847.6833 801 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 847.6833 a whole wall was burning down. 849.7385 802 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 849.7385 (pause 0.76) 850.5032 803 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 850.5032 So, he say I had a electric shortage up in the attic or something, and 854.6112 804 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 854.6112 (pause 0.57) 855.1836 805 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 855.1836 it was 855.5426 806 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 855.5426 (pause 0.13) 855.6685 807 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 855.6685 burning all the time, but I just didn't know it. 857.8881 808 VLD_int_01 858.1865 Until it 858.5947 809 VLD_int_01 858.5947 (pause 0.14) 858.7346 810 VLD_int_01 858.7346 just [really caught on fire?] 859.7977 811 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 859.1309 [Mm-hm. So,] I stayed out of here about six months, almost before they could get it back. I went down to uh 865.0833 812 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 865.7489 Maggie's Beauty Shop and I worked down there. 868.0197 813 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 868.0197 (pause 2.28) 870.2952 814 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 870.2952 And I couldn't wait to get back [home (laughing) cause] 872.6209 815 VLD_int_01 872.2385 [] 872.6022 816 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 873.0685 I didn't like the- 874.0244 817 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 874.0244 (pause 0.07) 874.0990 818 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 874.0990 the system like they were doing. Now, they were older than I were. 877.5566 819 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 877.5566 (pause 0.59) 878.1430 820 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 878.1430 And they was used to that kind of stuff. 880.1387 821 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 880.1387 (pause 1.04) 881.1738 822 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 881.1738 But uh, 881.6028 823 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 881.6028 (pause 0.16) 881.7614 824 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 881.7614 I just didn't like it, so uh, a 883.5024 825 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 883.5024 (pause 0.12) 883.6236 826 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 883.6236 few customers I did have they say, I was glad when you get back home, say we'll wash our own hair, you just do it. (laughing) 889.6249 827 VLD_int_01 889.7694 Mm. 890.2917 828 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 890.3430 But, I said no, so, I finally got back down here. 893.2551 829 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 893.2551 (pause 0.08) 893.3390 830 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 893.3390 Took about six month. 894.3882 831 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 894.3882 (pause 1.12) 895.5120 832 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 895.5120 895.6332 833 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 895.6332 (pause 0.53) 896.1648 834 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 896.1648 So, I've been here ever since. 897.7337 835 VLD_int_01 898.0847 Now, wha- how did you move- why did you move back to Valdosta? 900.2670 836 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 901.3674 Well, after my husband died. 902.9808 837 VLD_int_01 903.1300 So y- ah, okay. 904.0801 838 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 904.0801 My husband died in Tampa. 905.7121 839 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 906.8545 And so m- 907.3627 840 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 907.3627 (pause 0.13) 907.4933 841 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 907.4933 I had these 908.1601 842 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 908.1601 (pause 0.62) 908.7803 843 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 908.7803 four small children, and my daddy, he just didn't want me down there, he 912.3835 844 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 912.3835 (pause 0.11) 912.4954 845 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 912.4954 thought I was by myself. 913.9363 846 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 913.9363 (pause 0.29) 914.2254 847 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 914.2254 I probably coulda made it down there, but 916.0661 848 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 916.0661 (pause 0.89) 916.9567 849 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 916.9567 e- 917.0966 850 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 917.0966 (pause 0.10) 917.1992 851 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 917.1992 I know didn't think he had a U-Haul to coming down there to get us. 920.9808 852 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 920.9808 (pause 0.49) 921.4733 853 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 921.4733 And already had the projects (laughing) 923.3758 854 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 923.3758 (pause 0.70) 924.0799 855 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 924.0799 just, you know. 924.9332 856 VLD_int_01 925.0869 Ready [for you. Mm-hm.] 926.2201 857 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 925.4927 [Ready for us.] So, 926.5512 858 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 926.9755 I just come on back home, but I think I coulda made it back there. 930.0612 859 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 930.0612 (pause 1.55) 931.6139 860 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 931.6139 931.6979 861 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 931.6979 (pause 0.27) 931.9683 862 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 931.9683 Yeah. 932.2061 863 VLD_int_01 932.2714 And you have 932.7564 864 VLD_int_01 932.7564 (pause 0.31) 933.0641 865 VLD_int_01 933.0641 four kids? 933.5386 866 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 933.7158 Four kid. 934.3779 867 VLD_int_01 934.3779 Two girls, two boys right? 935.4504 868 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 935.5343 Two gir- 936.0799 869 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 936.0799 (pause 0.29) 936.3690 870 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 936.3690 [Three girls and one boy.] 937.7632 871 VLD_int_01 936.3690 [Three girls and one boy.] 937.5393 872 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 938.0709 Mm-hm. 938.5652 873 VLD_int_01 938.7237 Um. 939.2122 874 VLD_int_01 939.2122 (pause 0.09) 939.3008 875 VLD_int_01 939.3008 And so, then you moved back here, you moved into this house, [you started] your hair business, 943.2456 876 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 941.6466 [Mm-hm.] 942.0533 877 VLD_int_01 944.2108 So, let's talk about 945.1236 878 VLD_int_01 945.1236 (pause 1.34) 946.4618 879 VLD_int_01 946.4618 let's move to the 947.7534 880 VLD_int_01 947.7534 (pause 0.55) 948.3037 881 VLD_int_01 948.3037 nineteen sixties, and it's i- 949.8378 882 VLD_int_01 949.8378 (pause 0.11) 949.9450 883 VLD_int_01 949.9450 it's 950.1782 884 VLD_int_01 950.1782 (pause 0.20) 950.3787 885 VLD_int_01 950.3787 funny that you have on this shirt. This MLK shirt. 952.2427 886 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 952.4665 [Mm-hm.] 952.9887 887 VLD_int_01 952.4665 [Cause I think it's] 953.0494 888 VLD_int_01 953.1473 really interesting 954.0845 889 VLD_int_01 954.0845 (pause 0.94) 955.0218 890 VLD_int_01 955.0218 cause I do- 955.3761 891 VLD_int_01 955.3761 (pause 0.15) 955.5254 892 VLD_int_01 955.5254 I don't know if I knew like the nineteen thirties, forties, when you [were growing up, like] 958.7958 893 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 957.8277 [No, you don't.] 958.7649 894 VLD_int_01 958.9287 I mean 959.3804 895 VLD_int_01 959.3804 (pause 0.31) 959.6928 896 VLD_int_01 959.6928 and now to come to this point. 961.0684 897 VLD_int_01 961.0684 (pause 0.29) 961.3622 898 VLD_int_01 961.3622 So, tell me about 962.2248 899 VLD_int_01 962.2248 (pause 0.15) 962.3740 900 VLD_int_01 962.3740 like, Civil Rights, and kind of how you felt like the impact here in like the South. 966.4894 901 VLD_int_01 966.4894 (pause 0.71) 967.2022 902 VLD_int_01 967.2022 Like, MLK, and how that seemed to be 970.0313 903 VLD_int_01 970.0313 (pause 0.76) 970.7913 904 VLD_int_01 970.7913 did it 971.0991 905 VLD_int_01 971.0991 (pause 0.13) 971.2296 906 VLD_int_01 971.2296 did you feel- did it feel different? Did it start. 973.2999 907 VLD_int_01 973.2999 (pause 0.54) 973.8362 908 VLD_int_01 973.8362 Did things- 974.6930 909 VLD_int_01 974.6930 (pause 0.90) 975.5883 910 VLD_int_01 975.5883 Cause I- did y'all have 976.2318 911 VLD_int_01 976.2318 (pause 0.17) 976.3996 912 VLD_int_01 976.3996 /?/ let me start with this, but, did y'all have the separate water fountains and the separate [entrances?] 979.8167 913 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 979.0940 [Oh, sure.] 979.8261 914 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 980.0167 [Oh, sure.] 980.5482 915 VLD_int_01 980.0671 [Okay. So,] tell me a little bit about [like that.] 981.7085 916 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 981.5266 [We had] the 982.0116 917 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 982.3146 they called it the 983.0980 918 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 983.0980 (pause 0.23) 983.3312 919 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 983.3312 colored and the white. 984.3430 920 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 984.3430 (pause 0.51) 984.8513 921 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 984.8513 We were colored folks then. 986.4588 922 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 986.4588 (pause 0.12) 986.5754 923 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 986.5754 Not black. 987.1955 924 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 987.1955 (pause 0.19) 987.3821 925 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 987.3821 Color. 987.7178 926 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 987.7178 (pause 0.78) 988.5012 927 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 988.5012 And they would have a colored fountain and 990.4036 928 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 990.4036 (pause 1.18) 991.5833 929 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 991.5833 they 991.9004 930 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 991.9004 (pause 0.13) 992.0263 931 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 992.0263 I can't even remember having a colored 994.3286 932 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 994.3286 (pause 0.14) 994.4639 933 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 994.4639 bathroom. 995.3312 934 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 995.3312 (pause 0.55) 995.8860 935 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 995.8860 But they just had 996.6368 936 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 996.6368 (pause 0.09) 996.7300 937 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 996.7300 color fountains, cause you could go to a filling station 999.8903 938 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 999.8903 (pause 0.48) 1000.3659 939 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1000.3659 fill up your car with gas, they had bathroom, but you couldn't go in 'em. 1004.4366 940 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1004.4366 (pause 2.31) 1006.7483 941 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1006.7483 And stores, 1007.9793 942 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1007.9793 (pause 1.16) 1009.1404 943 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1009.1404 I remember Walgreens used to be downtown. 1011.9155 944 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1011.9155 (pause 1.02) 1012.9355 945 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1012.9355 And the black folks had to go in the back 1015.0525 946 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1015.0525 (pause 0.98) 1016.0317 947 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1016.0317 to the window- 1016.6892 948 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1016.6892 (pause 0.28) 1016.9689 949 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1016.9689 is the alley 1017.8362 950 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1017.8362 (pause 0.21) 1018.0507 951 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1018.0507 back there. 1018.6511 952 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1018.6511 (pause 0.38) 1019.0288 953 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1019.0288 You had to go back there and order from that 1020.8800 954 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1020.8800 (pause 0.45) 1021.3323 955 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1021.3323 window back there you couldn't go in the restaurant. 1023.7803 956 VLD_int_01 1025.0390 Mm. 1025.3281 957 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1025.3281 And, 1025.8177 958 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1026.1581 the 1026.3469 959 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1026.3469 (pause 0.27) 1026.6198 960 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1026.6198 crest, 1027.0908 961 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1027.0908 (pause 0.48) 1027.5664 962 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1027.5664 downtown, on that corner, 1029.0819 963 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1029.0819 (pause 0.71) 1029.7906 964 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1029.7906 they had a- 1030.4015 965 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1030.4015 (pause 0.39) 1030.7920 966 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1030.7920 a little eating fountain, 1032.3354 967 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1032.3354 (pause 0.72) 1033.0582 968 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1033.0582 you couldn't sit there on those stools 1035.1518 969 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1035.1518 (pause 0.37) 1035.5182 970 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1035.5182 and 1035.7793 971 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1035.7793 (pause 0.10) 1035.8819 972 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1035.8819 order nothing. 1036.6513 973 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1036.6513 (pause 1.35) 1037.9987 974 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1037.9987 it was just prohibited, /they'd say/- 1039.3370 975 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1039.3370 (pause 0.15) 1039.4829 976 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1039.4829 they had a sign up there some time, White Only. 1041.9123 977 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1041.9123 (pause 0.82) 1042.7330 978 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1042.7330 And, that mean for you not to sit on. 1044.4142 979 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1044.4142 (pause 0.48) 1044.8991 980 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1044.8991 So, we had some little young black boys that was in the early- 1048.0491 981 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1048.0491 (pause 1.01) 1049.0610 982 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1049.0610 when they started the Civil Rights. 1050.5742 983 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1050.5742 (pause 0.43) 1051.0032 984 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1051.0032 They sat on those stools. They come 1053.2259 985 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1053.2259 (pause 0.11) 1053.3379 986 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1053.3379 call theyself integrating, and then police 1055.5714 987 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1055.5714 (pause 0.11) 1055.6833 988 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1055.6833 got 'em just like they- you see on the movies and beat 'em and 1058.5546 989 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1058.5546 (pause 0.45) 1059.0069 990 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1059.0069 put 'em in jail and all that for standing up to getting a cup of coffee 1062.6872 991 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1062.6872 (pause 0.11) 1062.7991 992 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1062.7991 at t- 1063.1302 993 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1063.1302 (pause 0.08) 1063.2141 994 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1063.2141 cou- 1063.3726 995 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1063.3726 (pause 0.07) 1063.4426 996 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1063.4426 white counter. 1064.3367 997 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1064.3367 (pause 1.63) 1065.9641 998 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1065.9641 But, it was- 1066.6215 999 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1066.6215 (pause 0.12) 1066.7428 1000 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1066.7428 it was rough. 1067.6334 1001 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1067.6334 (pause 0.99) 1068.6219 1002 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1068.6219 We really felt it then. 1070.2761 1003 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1070.2761 (pause 2.35) 1072.6215 1004 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1072.6215 [And you cou-] look in, you go in the store, you couldn't try on no shoes. 1076.5032 1005 VLD_int_01 1072.6215 [Did /??/] 1073.0822 1006 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1077.1513 You had to measure your feet, 1078.8708 1007 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1078.8708 (pause 1.57) 1080.4422 1008 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1080.4422 and you just went and got a shoe tha- 1082.3633 1009 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1082.3633 (pause 0.16) 1082.5265 1010 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1082.5265 that l- 1082.8436 1011 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1082.8436 (pause 0.24) 1083.0861 1012 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1083.0861 length of that 1083.8088 1013 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1083.8088 (pause 1.11) 1084.9174 1014 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1084.9174 shoe. 1085.2905 1015 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1085.2905 (pause 0.13) 1085.4210 1016 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1085.4210 Cause you couldn't try 'em on in the store. 1087.4307 1017 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1087.4307 (pause 1.59) 1089.0161 1018 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1089.0161 Couldn't try on your 1089.7668 1019 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1089.7668 (pause 0.09) 1089.8554 1020 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1089.8554 clothes. 1090.5537 1021 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1090.5537 (pause 2.87) 1093.4261 1022 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1093.4261 You could buy 'em, but you couldn't try 'em on. 1095.3705 1023 VLD_int_01 1097.7313 And this was like that all over town? 1099.2747 1024 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1099.3307 All over town. 1100.6305 1025 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1100.6305 (pause 1.01) 1101.6423 1026 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1101.6423 1101.9454 1027 VLD_int_01 1101.9501 So, were there like 1102.7055 1028 VLD_int_01 1102.7055 (pause 0.32) 1103.0225 1029 VLD_int_01 1103.0225 sections, like 1103.8386 1030 VLD_int_01 1103.8386 (pause 0.17) 1104.0064 1031 VLD_int_01 1104.0064 for just the black folks on this side of town? 1105.8669 1032 VLD_int_01 1105.8669 (pause 0.06) 1105.9275 1033 VLD_int_01 1105.9275 Or, 1106.2714 1034 VLD_int_01 1106.2714 (pause 0.21) 1106.4859 1035 VLD_int_01 1106.4859 even those stores were. 1107.7263 1036 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1108.2672 All of 'em like that. We didn't. See, we didn't have no black stores or [nothing like that]. Er- white people owned everything. 1114.0522 1037 VLD_int_01 1111.4783 [Mm-hm.] 1112.0699 1038 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1115.3567 Filling station, everything, er- but. 1117.3151 1039 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1117.3151 (pause 0.30) 1117.6182 1040 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1117.6182 You'd never see no 1118.6720 1041 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1118.6720 (pause 0.20) 1118.8725 1042 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1118.8725 black person behind a counter, using the cash register, nothing like that. 1122.7649 1043 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1122.7649 (pause 2.00) 1124.7639 1044 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1124.7639 I would just eye the- 1125.6792 1045 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1125.6792 (pause 0.11) 1125.7911 1046 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1125.7911 onliest thing 1126.5174 1047 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1126.5174 (pause 0.13) 1126.6479 1048 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1126.6479 black people did in a store if you was the maid, 1129.1706 1049 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1129.1706 (pause 0.08) 1129.2498 1050 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1129.2498 to clean up. 1129.8513 1051 VLD_int_01 1132.1875 Mm. 1132.4614 1052 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1132.6526 That was it. 1133.1282 1053 VLD_int_01 1134.3219 So, then, think about civil- 1136.0472 1054 VLD_int_01 1136.0472 (pause 0.60) 1136.6487 1055 VLD_int_01 1136.6487 civil rights. 1137.8144 1056 VLD_int_01 1137.8144 (pause 1.16) 1138.9697 1057 VLD_int_01 1138.9697 Mm. 1139.1748 1058 VLD_int_01 1139.1748 (pause 0.13) 1139.3007 1059 VLD_int_01 1139.3007 Going back. So, your parents were both- 1140.8535 1060 VLD_int_01 1140.8535 (pause 0.54) 1141.3897 1061 VLD_int_01 1141.3897 Both- 1141.6135 1062 VLD_int_01 1141.6135 (pause 0.14) 1141.7534 1063 VLD_int_01 1141.7534 they both were custodians, right? So how, 1144.2807 1064 VLD_int_01 1144.2807 (pause 1.21) 1145.4919 1065 VLD_int_01 1145.4919 in their jobs, how did they 1147.2312 1066 VLD_int_01 1147.2312 (pause 1.53) 1148.7606 1067 VLD_int_01 1148.7606 function, like do- 1149.7258 1068 VLD_int_01 1149.7258 (pause 0.48) 1150.2108 1069 VLD_int_01 1150.2108 do you feel like they experience racism? Did you- 1151.8603 1070 VLD_int_01 1151.8603 (pause 0.09) 1151.9535 1071 VLD_int_01 1151.9535 Did [they talk about it?] 1152.8208 1072 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1152.0655 [Oh, sure.] 1152.7882 1073 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1153.1099 No, they didn't talk about it, you didn't talk about it. You just 1155.9217 1074 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1155.9217 (pause 0.79) 1156.7138 1075 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1156.7138 wasn't no- 1157.1848 1076 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1157.1848 (pause 1.94) 1159.1245 1077 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1159.1245 n- 1159.2458 1078 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1159.2458 (pause 0.24) 1159.4882 1079 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1159.4882 Who were you gonna talk about it to? 1161.4327 1080 VLD_int_01 1161.7124 Mm. 1162.1741 1081 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1162.5786 Uh-huh. 1163.2547 1082 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1163.2547 (pause 0.17) 1163.4226 1083 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1163.4226 Yeah, so. 1164.0474 1084 VLD_int_01 1165.6561 So, they just did they jobs and [came home?] 1167.6984 1085 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1167.0223 [Did they job.] 1168.0062 1086 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1169.7956 A- 1170.0148 1087 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1170.0148 (pause 0.07) 1170.0800 1088 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1170.0800 and just 1170.5090 1089 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1170.5090 (pause 0.09) 1170.5976 1090 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1170.5976 as the old folks say, make do. 1172.3462 1091 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1172.3462 (pause 0.74) 1173.0829 1092 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1173.0829 1173.9736 1093 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1173.9736 (pause 0.47) 1174.4480 1094 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1174.4480 That's what that was a thing they'd do. 1176.3971 1095 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1176.3971 (pause 0.33) 1176.7235 1096 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1176.7235 Yes ma'am, no ma'am. 1178.1177 1097 VLD_int_01 1181.7906 So, now, thinking ba- so, what happened in the- 1184.1034 1098 VLD_int_01 1184.1034 (pause 0.36) 1184.4625 1099 VLD_int_01 1184.4625 At what point do you think there was a turning point here? 1186.8499 1100 VLD_int_01 1186.8499 (pause 1.09) 1187.9363 1101 VLD_int_01 1187.9363 In the c- in Valdosta. Was it- 1189.1289 1102 VLD_int_01 1189.1289 (pause 0.57) 1189.6978 1103 VLD_int_01 1189.6978 was it 1190.0941 1104 VLD_int_01 1190.0941 (pause 0.52) 1190.6117 1105 VLD_int_01 1190.6117 the beginning of the civil rights? Was it after MLK was assassinated? 1193.7452 1106 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1195.6931 I think it was after he was assassinated. 1198.0619 1107 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1198.0619 (pause 2.30) 1200.3642 1108 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1200.3642 When it 1200.6067 1109 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1200.6067 (pause 0.11) 1200.7186 1110 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1200.7186 really got better here. 1201.9589 1111 VLD_int_01 1202.5977 And what happened? 1203.2412 1112 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1204.3789 Well, it started ha- well. 1205.9503 1113 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1205.9503 (pause 0.07) 1206.0156 1114 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1206.0156 Uh, black people started going to school and 1208.4951 1115 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1208.4951 (pause 0.48) 1208.9707 1116 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1208.9707 getting themselves ready for good jobs cause 1211.8151 1117 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1211.8151 (pause 0.31) 1212.1275 1118 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1212.1275 most of 'em 1212.8305 1119 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1212.8305 (pause 0.35) 1213.1849 1120 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1213.1849 didn't even finish high school. 1214.9148 1121 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1214.9148 (pause 0.70) 1215.6142 1122 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1215.6142 A- 1215.7914 1123 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1215.7914 (pause 0.28) 1216.0759 1124 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1216.0759 College was just out of it. Nobody went to college way back there. 1219.7845 1125 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1219.7845 (pause 1.05) 1220.8355 1126 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1220.8355 So, 1221.1339 1127 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1221.1339 (pause 0.13) 1221.2645 1128 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1221.2645 that's what you had to do. 1222.5048 1129 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1222.5048 (pause 0.15) 1222.6540 1130 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1222.6540 Whatever your parents did, you 1224.2896 1131 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1224.2896 (pause 0.32) 1224.6067 1132 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1224.6067 a- 1224.6999 1133 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1224.6999 (pause 0.22) 1224.9191 1134 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1224.9191 end up doing that. 1226.1501 1135 VLD_int_01 1228.3556 And so, 1229.1017 1136 VLD_int_01 1229.1017 (pause 0.13) 1229.2322 1137 VLD_int_01 1229.2322 after the- 1229.7731 1138 VLD_int_01 1229.7731 (pause 0.28) 1230.0529 1139 VLD_int_01 1230.0529 were there riots? Or was i- it just kind of like 1232.3100 1140 VLD_int_01 1232.3100 (pause 0.14) 1232.4499 1141 VLD_int_01 1232.4499 stuff started to change? What- 1234.1239 1142 VLD_int_01 1234.1239 (pause 0.61) 1234.7300 1143 VLD_int_01 1234.7300 what happened in the [city?] 1235.7465 1144 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1235.4388 [No, we didn't] have any [riots and-] 1237.4101 1145 VLD_int_01 1236.6226 [Oh, you y'all didn't go.] 1237.4852 1146 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1237.5266 No, we didn't go 1238.4172 1147 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1238.4172 (pause 0.10) 1238.5152 1148 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1238.5152 through all that. The burning and 1240.1378 1149 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1240.1378 (pause 0.13) 1240.2684 1150 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1240.2684 all that kind of stuff. The- I never heard of that here. 1243.0920 1151 VLD_int_01 1243.7332 Did they move the, um, 1244.9129 1152 VLD_int_01 1244.9129 (pause 0.09) 1245.0061 1153 VLD_int_01 1245.0061 how di- So, what happened when they started moving the signs? Like the 1247.8692 1154 VLD_int_01 1247.8692 (pause 0.49) 1248.3634 1155 VLD_int_01 1248.3634 [white and s- mm-hm.] 1249.7343 1156 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1248.4707 [White and co-] 1249.2494 1157 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1249.7856 Well, we didn't have any trouble with that. 1251.6962 1158 VLD_int_01 1252.0087 You [didn't?] 1252.7594 1159 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1252.1654 [Uh. Mm.] 1252.7763 1160 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1253.4402 None whatsoever. 1254.5761 1161 VLD_int_01 1255.1468 So, just one day they took it down [and?] 1256.6949 1162 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1256.4664 [It wasn't that's-] 1257.3494 1163 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1257.7271 When they passed the bill that equal rights, 1260.2031 1164 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1260.2031 (pause 0.31) 1260.5155 1165 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1260.5155 they just took 'em down. 1261.8072 1166 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1261.8072 (pause 1.31) 1263.1209 1167 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1263.1209 And they tried to be nice, 1264.7530 1168 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1264.7530 (pause 0.09) 1264.8462 1169 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1264.8462 but you could tell, they- 1266.0399 1170 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1266.0399 (pause 1.18) 1267.2150 1171 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1267.2150 it hadn't got there. 1268.1709 1172 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1268.1709 (pause 0.45) 1268.6185 1173 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1268.6185 [] 1269.6572 1174 VLD_int_01 1268.6185 [Hm.] 1268.9531 1175 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1270.4639 Yeah. 1270.9861 1176 VLD_int_01 1271.4804 Do remember like the first time that you went to a place that ha- used to be whites and colors and that you 1275.8857 1177 VLD_int_01 1275.8857 (pause 0.39) 1276.2773 1178 VLD_int_01 1276.2773 went in? 1276.7716 1179 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1277.7182 Well, I experience is, I went to a filling station one time, we was on our way to Tampa, 1282.3953 1180 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1282.3953 (pause 0.89) 1283.2812 1181 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1283.2812 and, 1283.6951 1182 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1283.6951 (pause 0.76) 1284.4551 1183 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1284.4551 they had a sign up there, white only, 1286.6234 1184 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1286.6234 (pause 0.54) 1287.1596 1185 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1287.1596 to the 1287.5326 1186 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1287.5326 (pause 0.77) 1288.3067 1187 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1288.3067 service station. 1289.2439 1188 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1289.2439 (pause 0.39) 1289.6344 1189 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1289.6344 So, we filled up with gas, and so I told the lady. I said, I'm going in this bathroom. 1294.3486 1190 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1294.3486 (pause 0.83) 1295.1821 1191 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1295.1821 I said, oh, we can't make it til the next stop, you know. 1297.8540 1192 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1297.8540 (pause 0.63) 1298.4835 1193 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1298.4835 So, 1298.7866 1194 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1298.7866 (pause 0.14) 1298.9218 1195 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1298.9218 I went on in there, and so, when I come out, the man said, um, 1302.4085 1196 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1302.4085 (pause 0.59) 1303.0007 1197 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1303.0007 did you see that sign? I said, I sure did. 1305.3554 1198 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1305.3554 (pause 0.89) 1306.2460 1199 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1306.2460 But, I had to go to the bathroom. 1308.1613 1200 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1308.1613 (pause 0.84) 1309.0007 1201 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1309.0007 And we filled up with gas, why can't we use the bathroom? 1312.2227 1202 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1312.2227 (pause 0.59) 1312.8103 1203 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1312.8103 So, he was surprised that I said that, so he say, 1315.5975 1204 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1315.5975 (pause 0.38) 1315.9799 1205 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1315.9799 oh. 1316.3716 1206 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1316.3716 (pause 0.93) 1317.3041 1207 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1317.3041 Well. 1317.6678 1208 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1317.6678 (pause 0.24) 1317.9103 1209 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1317.9103 It was the white bathroom. 1319.5039 1210 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1319.5039 (pause 1.92) 1321.4250 1211 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1321.4250 So, that was it (laughing). We didn't have any o- (laughing). 1323.4580 1212 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1323.4580 (pause 0.42) 1323.8777 1213 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1323.8777 He was red as fire. (laughing) 1325.5446 1214 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1325.5446 (pause 0.11) 1325.6518 1215 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1325.6518 But, he just said na- 1326.7629 1216 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1326.7629 (pause 0.43) 1327.1965 1217 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1327.1965 he said, did you see that sign? 1328.9218 1218 VLD_int_01 1332.2169 And he didn't say 1332.9163 1219 VLD_int_01 1332.9163 (pause 0.10) 1333.0189 1220 VLD_int_01 1333.0189 but that was it? 1333.5831 1221 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1333.7735 [Mm-mm.] 1334.1051 1222 VLD_int_01 1333.7735 [There was nothing. He didn't get violent or anything else?] 1336.0023 1223 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1334.3578 [Mm-hm. No, didn't no. We] didn't have any violence, mm-mm. 1337.4307 1224 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1338.1441 Like, some people. You know, you seen all over the county how they beat 'em and /??/ but I can't remember nothing like that- nothing but just a accident up at the 1346.3325 1225 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1346.3325 (pause 0.38) 1346.7077 1226 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1346.7077 Crest store. 1347.5703 1227 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1347.5703 (pause 0.59) 1348.1636 1228 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1348.1636 The police just got him and dragged him out of /then/ 1350.6198 1229 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1350.6198 (pause 0.73) 1351.3516 1230 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1351.3516 put him in jail. 1352.2656 1231 VLD_int_01 1354.1868 So, by the time your kids went to school, the schools, were they [integrated?] 1356.9352 1232 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1356.4875 [Oh, yeah.] They was integrated. 1357.7885 1233 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1357.8724 Yeah. 1358.1568 1234 VLD_int_01 1358.3713 Okay, i- 1359.0148 1235 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1359.0988 No they didn't. 1360.0363 1236 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1360.0363 (pause 0.11) 1360.1436 1237 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1360.1436 They didn't integrate until seventy 1362.8061 1238 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1362.8061 (pause 1.22) 1364.0266 1239 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1364.0266 one. 1364.7214 1240 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1364.7214 (pause 0.61) 1365.3322 1241 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1365.3322 Seventy-one. 1366.2695 1242 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1366.2695 (pause 0.59) 1366.8617 1243 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1366.8617 Cause that's when, um, 1368.0414 1244 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1368.0414 (pause 0.08) 1368.1207 1245 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1368.1207 they had to go to the 1369.2164 1246 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1369.2164 (pause 0.22) 1369.4356 1247 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1369.4356 Valdosta High. 1370.4416 1248 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1370.4416 (pause 2.01) 1372.4513 1249 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1372.4513 Cause he- we had Pinevale. 1374.0274 1250 VLD_int_01 1374.0554 Mm-hm. 1374.5030 1251 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1374.7035 And when Pinevale closed, the all had to go to Valdo- cause my oldest daughter- 1378.4980 1252 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1378.4980 (pause 1.71) 1380.2046 1253 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1380.2046 They um 1380.8667 1254 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1380.8667 (pause 0.71) 1381.5755 1255 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1381.5755 yeah. They had- 1382.1432 1256 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1382.1432 (pause 0.11) 1382.2551 1257 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1382.2551 that's when they started. 1383.3136 1258 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1383.3136 (pause 0.34) 1383.6540 1259 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1383.6540 In seventy-one. 1384.6612 1260 VLD_int_01 1386.9926 Was school. How- Mm. 1388.1479 1261 VLD_int_01 1388.1479 (pause 0.96) 1389.1084 1262 VLD_int_01 1389.1084 Mkay. So, now you get to see it from the other side, 1391.2487 1263 VLD_int_01 1391.2487 (pause 0.11) 1391.3559 1264 VLD_int_01 1391.3559 how was the education? Do you feel, was it 1393.2024 1265 VLD_int_01 1393.2024 (pause 0.17) 1393.3703 1266 VLD_int_01 1393.3703 [better?] 1394.0266 1267 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1393.7422 [It's] much better, cause they got to 1395.7379 1268 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1396.0970 learn what they were learning. 1397.9481 1269 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1397.9481 (pause 0.28) 1398.2232 1270 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1398.2232 they couldn't give separate books and stuff like that. They had to do it, you know, equally. 1402.8663 1271 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1402.8663 (pause 1.18) 1404.0414 1272 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1404.0414 Yes. 1404.2839 1273 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1404.2839 (pause 0.09) 1404.3771 1274 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1404.3771 Cause, 1404.8481 1275 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1404.8481 (pause 0.34) 1405.1885 1276 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1405.1885 I don't know well you know m- 1406.1805 1277 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1406.1805 (pause 0.14) 1406.3157 1278 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1406.3157 re- 1406.5768 1279 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1406.5768 (pause 0.45) 1407.0292 1280 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1407.0292 Mr. /RD-NAME-3/. 1408.4047 1281 VLD_int_01 1408.8570 Mm-mm. 1409.1741 1282 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1409.7383 Well, he was the 1410.5310 1283 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1410.5310 (pause 2.63) 1413.1582 1284 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1413.1582 he was the uh, 1414.0908 1285 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1414.0908 (pause 0.18) 1414.2679 1286 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1414.2679 vice president 1415.4383 1287 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1415.4383 (pause 2.37) 1417.8106 1288 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1417.8106 No, he was the 1418.4541 1289 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1418.4541 (pause 0.31) 1418.7665 1290 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1418.7665 he was the superintendent at the middle school. 1421.6295 1291 VLD_int_01 1422.1284 Mm-hm. 1422.4875 1292 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1422.6274 They let him beat 'em /?/. 1423.5262 1293 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1423.5262 (pause 0.62) 1424.1510 1294 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1424.1510 And so, when they segregated, 1425.9509 1295 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1425.9509 (pause 0.70) 1426.6550 1296 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1426.6550 the 1426.7855 1297 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1426.7855 (pause 0.09) 1426.8741 1298 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1426.8741 children walked out. 1428.0119 1299 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1428.0119 (pause 0.37) 1428.3802 1300 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1428.3802 The black children walk out. 1429.9738 1301 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1429.9738 (pause 0.71) 1430.6872 1302 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1430.6872 And he was in charge of getting 'em all back to school. 1433.8067 1303 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1433.8067 (pause 0.44) 1434.2450 1304 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1434.2450 Back in school. 1435.1123 1305 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1435.1123 (pause 0.06) 1435.1729 1306 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1435.1729 Cause 1435.3630 1307 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1435.3630 (pause 0.74) 1436.0997 1308 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1436.0997 they weren't showing difficulties, you know and na- 1438.5850 1309 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1438.5850 (pause 0.09) 1438.6783 1310 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1438.6783 and 1439.0187 1311 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1439.0187 (pause 0.07) 1439.0886 1312 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1439.0886 children had been black all their lives, so they really didn't wanna mix. 1442.8831 1313 VLD_int_01 1443.4100 Hm. 1443.8390 1314 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1444.1887 But um, 1444.7809 1315 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1444.7809 (pause 2.08) 1446.8652 1316 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1446.8652 yeah, that was in seventy-one, I believe it was. Yeah. 1449.8296 1317 VLD_int_01 1450.6876 So, when did- 1451.2751 1318 VLD_int_01 1451.2751 (pause 0.32) 1451.5969 1319 VLD_int_01 1451.5969 when did black people really like in- 1453.3507 1320 VLD_int_01 1453.3507 (pause 0.12) 1453.4719 1321 VLD_int_01 1453.4719 that you could see started really going to college? 1455.8780 1322 VLD_int_01 1455.8780 (pause 0.39) 1456.2696 1323 VLD_int_01 1456.2696 Like going to S- BSU or BSC at the time or even any 1460.2370 1324 VLD_int_01 1460.2370 (pause 0.11) 1460.3443 1325 VLD_int_01 1460.3443 [that you knew.] 1461.0903 1326 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1460.4189 [Any school.] 1461.1463 1327 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1461.5473 Well, cause 1462.0276 1328 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1462.0276 (pause 0.07) 1462.0929 1329 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1462.0929 bu- but before then, 1463.5978 1330 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1463.5978 (pause 0.26) 1463.8543 1331 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1463.8543 uh, 1464.2973 1332 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1464.2973 (pause 0.31) 1464.6050 1333 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1464.6050 before they started here, 1466.0412 1334 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1466.0412 (pause 0.56) 1466.6007 1335 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1466.6007 t- uh, the older people like 1468.8211 1336 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1468.8211 (pause 0.46) 1469.2780 1337 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1469.2780 eighty something years old now 1470.7655 1338 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1470.7655 (pause 0.47) 1471.2332 1339 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1471.2332 they went to school like Fort Valley, and Albany State, [Savannah] State. 1475.1733 1340 VLD_int_01 1474.1102 [Mm-hm.] 1474.6650 1341 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1475.9695 All black [colleges.] 1477.3544 1342 VLD_int_01 1477.1865 [Right.] 1477.4849 1343 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1478.1471 Yeah. 1478.5061 1344 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1478.5061 (pause 0.99) 1479.4947 1345 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1479.4947 So, 1479.8490 1346 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1479.8490 (pause 0.30) 1480.1517 1347 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1480.1517 m- 1480.2502 1348 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1480.2502 (pause 0.23) 1480.4833 1349 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1480.4833 e- they had started going to s- 1482.0034 1350 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1482.0034 (pause 0.27) 1482.2739 1351 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1482.2739 uh, 1482.7262 1352 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1482.7262 (pause 0.12) 1482.8428 1353 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1482.8428 college before they, 1484.0052 1354 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1484.0052 (pause 0.56) 1484.5647 1355 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1484.5647 you know, Valdosta State got started. 1486.6096 1356 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1486.6096 (pause 1.04) 1487.6447 1357 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1487.6447 And most of 'em come back, and was teachers and different things, and they could really help their children. 1492.7073 1358 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1492.7073 (pause 2.64) 1495.3515 1359 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1495.3515 Yeah. 1495.7339 1360 VLD_int_01 1498.0455 So. 1498.4652 1361 VLD_int_01 1498.4652 (pause 1.69) 1500.1531 1362 VLD_int_01 1500.1531 So, then, okay. So, now let's go back to 1502.6474 1363 VLD_int_01 1502.6474 (pause 0.33) 1502.9785 1364 VLD_int_01 1502.9785 thinking about 1503.5706 1365 VLD_int_01 1503.5706 (pause 0.40) 1503.9670 1366 VLD_int_01 1503.9670 let's fast forward a little bit. Thinking about today, 1505.9360 1367 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1506.1459 Mm-hm. 1506.5142 1368 VLD_int_01 1506.6495 and thinking about 1507.3734 1369 VLD_int_01 1507.3734 (pause 0.11) 1507.4853 1370 VLD_int_01 1507.4853 when you were younger. What do you f- how do you feel like is the race relations in Valdosta now? 1511.4243 1371 VLD_int_01 1511.4243 (pause 1.13) 1512.5574 1372 VLD_int_01 1512.5574 Like, 1512.7859 1373 VLD_int_01 1512.7859 (pause 0.07) 1512.8512 1374 VLD_int_01 1512.8512 the whites, the blacks, 1514.2349 1375 VLD_int_01 1514.2349 (pause 0.27) 1514.5007 1376 VLD_int_01 1514.5007 do you feel like it's still segregated in a [way?] 1516.1840 1377 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1516.0022 [No.] I 1516.6363 1378 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1516.7202 think they gets along pretty good now. 1518.8185 1379 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1518.8185 (pause 0.25) 1519.0703 1380 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1519.0703 Uh-huh. I really do. 1520.1288 1381 VLD_int_01 1521.5592 Um. 1522.1187 1382 VLD_int_01 1522.1187 (pause 0.08) 1522.1980 1383 VLD_int_01 1522.1980 And then, 1522.9627 1384 VLD_int_01 1522.9627 (pause 0.11) 1523.0700 1385 VLD_int_01 1523.0700 what do you think about 1524.5574 1386 VLD_int_01 1524.5574 (pause 0.86) 1525.4154 1387 VLD_int_01 1525.4154 you know how people talk about different sides of town? 1527.5384 1388 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1527.6736 Mm-hm. 1528.1259 1389 VLD_int_01 1528.1259 Tell me about the different sides of town. 1529.7533 1390 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1532.1442 Well, we didn't know nothing about the white side of town (laughing). We always stayed in- 1536.1677 1391 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1536.1677 (pause 0.34) 1536.5081 1392 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1536.5081 in this side of the 1537.4955 1393 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1537.4955 (pause 0.42) 1537.9152 1394 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1537.9152 Magno- I mean 1539.0016 1395 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1539.0016 (pause 0.19) 1539.1883 1396 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1539.1883 Westside, they had their little side, and I think Tom Town, they called it out here. 1543.5871 1397 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1543.5871 (pause 0.45) 1544.0361 1398 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1544.0361 They had their's, but 1545.1599 1399 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1545.1599 (pause 0.47) 1545.6262 1400 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1545.6262 now, 1546.2883 1401 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1546.2883 (pause 0.36) 1546.6520 1402 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1546.6520 they all over Valdosta. You buy a house or 1549.7564 1403 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1549.7564 (pause 0.23) 1549.9848 1404 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1549.9848 build a house anywhere you wanna. 1551.5842 1405 VLD_int_01 1553.5461 And you feel like it's- it's- it's good? 1555.3134 1406 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1555.3134 It's good. 1555.9196 1407 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1556.0128 Better. 1556.3485 1408 VLD_int_01 1556.5770 So now let's talk about 1557.9712 1409 VLD_int_01 1557.9712 (pause 0.37) 1558.3443 1410 VLD_int_01 1558.3443 church. 1558.9411 1411 VLD_int_01 1558.9411 (pause 0.11) 1559.0530 1412 VLD_int_01 1559.0530 Cause that's a very important 1560.7212 1413 VLD_int_01 1560.7212 (pause 0.58) 1561.2994 1414 VLD_int_01 1561.2994 part of- 1562.3905 1415 VLD_int_01 1562.3905 (pause 0.08) 1562.4744 1416 VLD_int_01 1562.4744 of life and 1563.9386 1417 VLD_int_01 1563.9386 (pause 0.13) 1564.0645 1418 VLD_int_01 1564.0645 especially in the South. 1565.1183 1419 VLD_int_01 1565.1183 (pause 0.54) 1565.6592 1420 VLD_int_01 1565.6592 So, 1566.1721 1421 VLD_int_01 1566.1721 (pause 0.77) 1566.9403 1422 VLD_int_01 1566.9403 tell me about, did you always go to church? 1568.9547 1423 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1569.2298 Mm-hm. 1569.6728 1424 VLD_int_01 1569.8174 Even when you were younger? 1570.6287 1425 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1570.6287 Yeah. we was 1571.3608 1426 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1571.4307 brought up in [church.] 1572.5626 1427 VLD_int_01 1572.3575 [So,] tell me about 1573.1315 1428 VLD_int_01 1573.2294 going to church when you were younger 1574.6050 1429 VLD_int_01 1574.6050 (pause 0.07) 1574.6796 1430 VLD_int_01 1574.6796 with your family. Like your parents and. 1576.5494 1431 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1576.5494 Yeah, we 1577.1882 1432 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1577.3141 walked to church. We ha- our church 1579.1269 1433 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1579.1269 (pause 0.10) 1579.2248 1434 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1579.2248 the church I'm a member of now, been a member of my church 1582.1764 1435 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1582.1764 (pause 0.75) 1582.9271 1436 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1582.9271 ever since nineteen forty-eight. 1584.9497 1437 VLD_int_01 1584.9497 Okay. So you 1585.5698 1438 VLD_int_01 1585.5698 (pause 0.21) 1585.7750 1439 VLD_int_01 1585.7750 grew up in [that church] 1586.7495 1440 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1586.4838 I /drew/ up in church. 1587.8288 1441 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1588.2137 So, we always walked. 1589.4960 1442 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1589.4960 (pause 0.42) 1589.9203 1443 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1589.9203 Cause we was right right round here on South Street. We walked to this church up here. 1593.6402 1444 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1593.6402 (pause 0.79) 1594.4282 1445 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1594.4282 And my parents, they was a member out at, um, 1597.7051 1446 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1597.7051 (pause 0.28) 1597.9895 1447 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1597.9895 out here on forty-one. 1599.3930 1448 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1599.3930 (pause 0.63) 1600.0272 1449 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1600.0272 And they only had church once a month. 1602.0649 1450 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1602.0649 (pause 0.15) 1602.2176 1451 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1602.2176 That was the first Sunday. 1603.4299 1452 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1603.4299 (pause 0.49) 1603.9242 1453 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1603.9242 So, we were living next door to a lady that belongs to Morning Star, so she said, we can have those children in Sunday school 1610.1387 1454 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1610.1387 (pause 0.07) 1610.2133 1455 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1610.2133 every Sunday cause we had 1611.8080 1456 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1611.8080 (pause 0.24) 1612.0458 1457 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1612.0458 always had church every Sunday 1613.7091 1458 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1613.7091 (pause 0.36) 1614.0682 1459 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1614.0682 at Morning Star. 1615.0148 1460 VLD_int_01 1615.0384 Mm. 1615.4327 1461 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1615.5090 But you know those kind of little country churches and 1617.7461 1462 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1617.7461 (pause 0.49) 1618.2403 1463 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1618.2403 lot of 'em just had once a month. Some of 'em had two. 1620.7863 1464 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1620.7863 (pause 0.81) 1621.5930 1465 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1621.5930 But, mostly was once. 1622.9685 1466 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1622.9685 (pause 0.51) 1623.4803 1467 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1623.4803 But, 1623.7321 1468 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1623.7321 (pause 0.16) 1623.8953 1469 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1623.8953 I've always been in church. 1625.3827 1470 VLD_int_01 1627.3443 Were you- did you d- what did you do at church? Usher? Sing? 1630.3612 1471 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1630.3845 I sang in the choir. 1631.7694 1472 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1631.7694 (pause 0.83) 1632.6029 1473 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1632.6029 I was president of my mission 1634.3515 1474 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1634.3515 (pause 0.46) 1634.8085 1475 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1634.8085 for thirty years. 1635.9742 1476 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1635.9742 (pause 1.59) 1637.5596 1477 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1637.5596 I did- 1638.3896 1478 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1638.3896 (pause 1.48) 1639.8666 1479 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1639.8666 No, I did no usher. I didn't like ushering. 1641.9229 1480 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1641.9229 (pause 0.57) 1642.4964 1481 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1642.4964 [] 1643.1632 1482 VLD_int_01 1642.9534 [Why] not? 1643.3357 1483 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1643.8708 Cause people won't do what you say. You tell 'em to sit here, and they gonna say I'm wanna sit over there. 1648.2213 1484 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1648.2213 (pause 0.35) 1648.5710 1485 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1648.5710 1650.7250 1486 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1650.7250 (pause 0.55) 1651.2705 1487 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1651.2705 I wasn't a good greeter. 1652.5901 1488 VLD_int_01 1652.6974 [] 1654.2305 1489 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1653.2047 [And you- a usher should] be a good greeter, smiling, 1656.6803 1490 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1657.0626 and be nice. 1658.0885 1491 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1658.0885 (pause 0.57) 1658.6545 1492 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1658.6545 And see, if you can't be nice, and I wasn't nice, 1661.2820 1493 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1661.2820 (pause 0.25) 1661.5366 1494 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1661.5366 you know, that nice. 1662.6342 1495 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1662.6342 (pause 0.17) 1662.8010 1496 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1662.8010 1664.6845 1497 VLD_int_01 1665.0884 So you- that wasn't [your calling?] 1666.5576 1498 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1665.9957 [Mm-hm.] And I 1666.9264 1499 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1667.0186 taught Sunday school a while when I got out /?/. 1669.7757 1500 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1669.7757 (pause 0.84) 1670.6186 1501 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1670.6186 And I always helped with the young peoples at church. 1673.2485 1502 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1673.2485 (pause 0.96) 1674.2100 1503 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1674.2100 Cause I had children. 1675.5447 1504 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1675.5447 (pause 0.49) 1676.0320 1505 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1676.0320 And so, 1676.6071 1506 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1676.6071 (pause 0.15) 1676.7564 1507 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1676.7564 just, 1677.0929 1508 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1677.0929 (pause 0.63) 1677.7251 1509 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1677.7251 teach the other folk's children, you got to carry your own, so my four was always in church. 1682.3154 1510 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1682.3154 (pause 0.84) 1683.1549 1511 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1683.1549 /RD-NAME-3/ 1684.0520 1512 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1684.0520 (pause 0.64) 1684.6910 1513 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1684.6910 He the only one stop when he was sixteen, he got a job so he wouldn't have to go to church 1689.7634 1514 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1689.7634 (pause 0.71) 1690.4746 1515 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1690.4746 on Sunday. 1691.2297 1516 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1691.2297 (pause 1.18) 1692.4136 1517 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1692.4136 So, uh. Huh. 1693.2214 1518 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1693.2214 (pause 0.36) 1693.5814 1519 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1693.5814 Cause I always say, if you live with me, 1695.6273 1520 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1695.6273 (pause 0.98) 1696.6107 1521 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1696.6107 you gonna go to church, 1698.0624 1522 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1698.0624 (pause 0.43) 1698.4970 1523 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1698.4970 and do what I say do. 1699.8931 1524 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1699.8931 (pause 1.11) 1701.0039 1525 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1701.0039 So, if you don't wanna do that, just move. 1702.9751 1526 VLD_int_01 1703.9326 [] 1704.6693 1527 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1704.0725 [] 1704.5947 1528 VLD_int_01 1706.7536 Was he the first one to leave? 1707.8951 1529 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1708.0312 Yeah. 1708.3736 1530 VLD_int_01 1708.4922 [Mm-hm.] 1708.9356 1531 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1708.7600 [He's] the first one. Got him a [job.] 1710.5585 1532 VLD_int_01 1710.2336 [] 1710.9712 1533 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1711.1380 Cause 1711.4936 1534 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1711.4936 (pause 0.18) 1711.6780 1535 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1711.6780 all of 'em graduated from school. 1713.6887 1536 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1713.6887 (pause 0.65) 1714.3385 1537 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1714.3385 Two of 'em graduated from Valdosta State. 1716.4399 1538 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1716.4399 (pause 0.73) 1717.1687 1539 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1717.1687 One of them went to Morris Brown. 1718.7185 1540 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1718.7185 (pause 1.11) 1719.8292 1541 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1719.8292 But, 1720.0927 1542 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1720.0927 (pause 0.46) 1720.5492 1543 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1720.5492 his last year in school, 1722.7297 1544 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1722.7297 (pause 0.74) 1723.4662 1545 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1723.4662 when they got out for Christmas, 1724.9896 1546 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1724.9896 (pause 0.22) 1725.2091 1547 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1725.2091 He just decide he'd get him a job, and he wasn't going back to school. 1728.6364 1548 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1728.6364 (pause 1.17) 1729.8042 1549 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1729.8042 Like in one half 1730.9193 1550 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1730.9193 (pause 0.10) 1731.0159 1551 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1731.0159 quarter from graduating. He the only one who didn't graduate. 1733.6413 1552 VLD_int_01 1735.3959 Hm. 1735.7384 1553 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1737.5076 Sunday. Yeah, they went to school. 1739.2424 1554 VLD_int_01 1741.4112 Do you have any grandkids? 1742.7414 1555 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1743.3736 I have 1744.2253 1556 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1744.2253 (pause 1.26) 1745.4897 1557 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1745.4897 you know. 1746.2565 1558 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1746.2565 (pause 1.24) 1747.4989 1559 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1747.4989 My daughter lives in- I got one daughter lives in Boston, Massachusetts, she has two boys. 1752.4687 1560 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1752.4687 (pause 0.45) 1752.9209 1561 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1752.9209 One of them is 1753.4770 1562 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1753.4770 (pause 0.12) 1753.5972 1563 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1753.5972 thirty 1754.1284 1564 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1754.1284 (pause 0.68) 1754.8089 1565 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1754.8089 nine and twenty-nine. 1756.6923 1566 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1756.6923 (pause 1.37) 1758.0577 1567 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1758.0577 And the one t- 1758.7689 1568 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1758.7689 (pause 0.32) 1759.0938 1569 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1759.0938 thirty nine, he has six children. 1761.9240 1570 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1761.9240 (pause 0.66) 1762.5869 1571 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1762.5869 And 1762.8460 1572 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1762.8460 (pause 0.67) 1763.5177 1573 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1763.5177 I don't know how many grands 1765.0499 1574 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1765.0499 (pause 0.23) 1765.2782 1575 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1765.2782 he got. 1765.8445 1576 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1765.8445 (pause 2.21) 1768.0557 1577 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1768.0557 Now, I don't know how many grands she got, but he- I know he had six children. The other one just got married last year. 1773.9326 1578 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1773.9326 (pause 2.18) 1776.1131 1579 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1776.1131 /RD-NAME-2/ has one. 1777.4433 1580 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1777.4433 (pause 0.73) 1778.1721 1581 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1778.1721 /RD-NAME-2/ had one, so that's 1779.8448 1582 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1779.8448 (pause 0.39) 1780.2312 1583 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1780.2312 that's the grand children. 1781.2980 1584 VLD_int_01 1781.8600 But, you've got great grands. 1783.2268 1585 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1783.3280 Mm-hm. 1783.8058 1586 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1783.8058 (pause 0.15) 1783.9529 1587 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1783.9529 Yeah. 1784.2615 1588 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1784.2615 (pause 0.45) 1784.7069 1589 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1784.7069 Yeah, that's 1785.0830 1590 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1785.0830 (pause 0.09) 1785.1730 1591 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1785.1730 grand 1785.5000 1592 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1785.5000 (pause 0.10) 1785.6022 1593 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1785.6022 their son 1786.2276 1594 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1786.2276 (pause 0.50) 1786.7304 1595 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1786.7304 [grandson] I got. I think he got about six or seven. 1790.0074 1596 VLD_int_01 1786.9307 [Hm.] 1787.1882 1597 VLD_int_01 1791.2977 But they're not 1791.7801 1598 VLD_int_01 1791.7801 (pause 0.12) 1791.8986 1599 VLD_int_01 1791.8986 old 1792.1194 1600 VLD_int_01 1792.1194 (pause 0.08) 1792.2011 1601 VLD_int_01 1792.2011 so you're not great-great grandma yet? 1793.7300 1602 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1794.0734 Mm-mm. 1794.4331 1603 VLD_int_01 1794.5557 Mm-mm. 1794.8950 1604 VLD_int_01 1794.8950 (pause 0.14) 1795.0381 1605 VLD_int_01 1795.0381 But it's probably coming in a [few years. Mm-hm.] 1797.6164 1606 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1796.3206 [Mm-hm. Mm-hm.] 1797.6164 1607 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1797.8208 Mm-hm. 1798.3073 1608 VLD_int_01 1798.9392 What do you think is, 1800.6724 1609 VLD_int_01 1800.6724 (pause 1.09) 1801.7665 1610 VLD_int_01 1801.7665 What's the one lesson that you think you've given to your kids that 1804.8365 1611 VLD_int_01 1804.8365 (pause 0.31) 1805.1471 1612 VLD_int_01 1805.1471 was the most important lesson? 1806.4430 1613 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1807.1896 Work and take care of yourself. 1809.0700 1614 VLD_int_01 1811.3469 Why do you say that? 1811.9969 1615 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1812.9520 Because you 1813.6224 1616 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1813.6224 (pause 0.11) 1813.7328 1617 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1813.7328 er. 1813.9699 1618 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1813.9699 (pause 0.43) 1814.3950 1619 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1814.3950 If you take care of yourself, you won't have to depend on other people. 1818.0996 1620 VLD_int_01 1820.5140 Hm. 1820.7348 1621 VLD_int_01 1820.7348 (pause 0.29) 1821.0209 1622 VLD_int_01 1821.0209 That's important. 1821.7690 1623 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1822.0061 Mm-hm. 1822.4353 1624 VLD_int_01 1823.1261 What do you think, 1824.0541 1625 VLD_int_01 1824.0541 (pause 0.15) 1824.2012 1626 VLD_int_01 1824.2012 if you could do one thing over 1825.8513 1627 VLD_int_01 1825.8513 (pause 0.39) 1826.2437 1628 VLD_int_01 1826.2437 in life, not 1827.0449 1629 VLD_int_01 1827.0449 (pause 0.16) 1827.2084 1630 VLD_int_01 1827.2084 because you regret it. Just something you could do differently, what would it be? 1829.7715 1631 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1830.4527 Nursing. 1831.0700 1632 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1831.0700 (pause 0.86) 1831.9277 1633 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1831.9277 I likeded nursing. 1833.0035 1634 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1833.0035 (pause 0.74) 1833.7393 1635 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1833.7393 Cause um, 1834.5691 1636 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1834.5691 (pause 0.27) 1834.8425 1637 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1834.8425 I did go to nursing school. 1836.7678 1638 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1836.7678 (pause 1.71) 1838.4765 1639 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1838.4765 I got my little nurse's aide license way back there. 1841.7438 1640 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1841.7438 (pause 0.40) 1842.1448 1641 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1842.1448 I got those in Tampa though when I down there. 1844.6301 1642 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1844.6301 (pause 1.25) 1845.8765 1643 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1845.8765 And 1846.1935 1644 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1846.1935 (pause 0.58) 1846.7753 1645 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1846.7753 well, when I left here, I was working at Pineview. 1849.3259 1646 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1849.3259 (pause 0.57) 1849.8994 1647 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1849.8994 It 1850.0066 1648 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1850.0066 (pause 0.17) 1850.1745 1649 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1850.1745 /well/ 1850.6501 1650 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1850.6501 (pause 0.45) 1851.1024 1651 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1851.1024 South Georgia Medical Center now, but it was Pineview General then. 1854.7794 1652 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1854.7794 (pause 0.76) 1855.5347 1653 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1855.5347 I worked there when they first opened. About nine months. 1858.7102 1654 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1858.7102 (pause 0.69) 1859.4003 1655 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1859.4003 So, I had to go to school to get your 1861.3389 1656 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1861.3389 (pause 0.13) 1861.4695 1657 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1861.4695 CPA 1862.3368 1658 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1862.3368 (pause 0.16) 1862.4953 1659 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1862.4953 license, they call it now, but it was a nurse's aide. 1865.6055 1660 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1865.6055 (pause 0.57) 1866.1734 1661 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1866.1734 So, I would do that. 1867.1246 1662 VLD_int_01 1868.4710 And, um. 1869.4363 1663 VLD_int_01 1869.4363 (pause 0.74) 1870.1777 1664 VLD_int_01 1870.1777 Why? What did you like about it? 1871.5112 1665 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1871.8750 I just like taking care of people, seeing that they comfortable. 1875.2124 1666 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1875.2124 (pause 0.52) 1875.7347 1667 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1875.7347 You know. 1876.1777 1668 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1876.1777 (pause 0.70) 1876.8818 1669 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1876.8818 I have a lot of patience with old folk. That's all I got for customers (laughing) now, is old folk. 1881.8186 1670 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1881.8186 (pause 0.27) 1882.0844 1671 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1882.0844 I have to help 'em, many people in and out of their 1883.8143 1672 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1883.8143 (pause 0.18) 1883.9948 1673 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1883.9948 chair 1884.5544 1674 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1884.5544 (pause 0.17) 1884.7249 1675 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1884.7249 put them in. (laughing) 1885.5956 1676 VLD_int_01 1886.2251 [And /all 'em remember/.] 1887.3315 1677 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1886.3789 [Some of 'em, I-] 1887.0378 1678 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1887.8958 I used to. 1888.8423 1679 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1888.8423 (pause 0.64) 1889.4858 1680 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1889.4858 Now I had 1890.0547 1681 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1890.0547 (pause 0.09) 1890.1479 1682 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1890.1479 two one time, I used to have to go get and bring t- t- 1893.0611 1683 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1893.0611 (pause 0.17) 1893.2290 1684 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1893.2290 get their hair done. 1894.2268 1685 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1894.2268 (pause 0.16) 1894.3854 1686 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1894.3854 But they died. 1895.3506 1687 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1895.3506 (pause 1.61) 1896.9581 1688 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1896.9581 Mm. 1897.1446 1689 VLD_int_01 1897.4850 And you been just. 1898.2731 1690 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1898.2731 Mm. [And then I] worked in a nursing home for 1900.6978 1691 VLD_int_01 1898.7254 [And you just.] 1899.3269 1692 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1901.2666 oh, about seven years out there, um 1903.4804 1693 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1903.4804 (pause 0.51) 1903.9933 1694 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1903.9933 I'd go out there and do their hair on Wednesdays. 1905.9564 1695 VLD_int_01 1907.9847 You still do that? 1908.6142 1696 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1908.7821 Mm-mm. 1909.2099 1697 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1909.2099 (pause 0.76) 1909.9746 1698 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1909.9746 No. I had surgery, and I 1911.6673 1699 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1911.6673 (pause 0.09) 1911.7605 1700 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1911.7605 couldn't lift and help with 'em, you know, getting 'em in and out the shampoo bowl and I sh- 1915.9420 1701 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1915.9420 (pause 0.23) 1916.1751 1702 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1916.1751 I had to stop that cause the 1917.7092 1703 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1917.7092 (pause 0.51) 1918.2175 1704 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1918.2175 Nurses are real lazy now, they ain't like they used to be. 1921.2379 1705 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1921.2379 (pause 0.97) 1922.2031 1706 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1922.2031 They wouldn't 1922.7487 1707 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1922.7487 (pause 0.61) 1923.3595 1708 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1923.3595 change and wouldn't bring 'em in there, so I told the lady I had to stop 1926.7054 1709 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1926.7054 (pause 0.08) 1926.7893 1710 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1926.7893 but, I used to go out there every Wednesday. 1928.9576 1711 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1928.9576 (pause 1.36) 1930.3145 1712 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1930.3145 I had two nursing home. 1931.8719 1713 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1931.8719 (pause 0.68) 1932.5562 1714 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1932.5562 Heritage House and Holly Hill. 1934.2712 1715 VLD_int_01 1934.2628 Mm-hm. 1934.8969 1716 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1936.1746 I did that for about ten years alone. 1938.4958 1717 VLD_int_01 1940.5183 What do you think is- 1942.3555 1718 VLD_int_01 1942.3555 (pause 0.57) 1942.9290 1719 VLD_int_01 1942.9290 When you think of your greatest accomplishment, the thing that you're the most proud of, what is it? 1946.9426 1720 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1948.2762 Taking care of myself. 1949.5492 1721 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1949.5492 (pause 0.42) 1949.9688 1722 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1949.9688 [] 1951.9762 1723 VLD_int_01 1950.3838 [] 1951.2278 1724 VLD_int_01 1952.6103 Cause your husband's 1953.3004 1725 VLD_int_01 1953.3004 (pause 0.14) 1953.4450 1726 VLD_int_01 1953.4450 been dead for ho- 1954.2890 1727 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1954.4044 [Uh. This last one-] twen- in two, in um, two thou- 1957.9715 1728 VLD_int_01 1954.4044 [a long.] 1955.4862 1729 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1958.2420 well. 1958.7595 1730 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1958.7595 (pause 5.30) 1964.0601 1731 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1964.0601 Uh. 1964.2933 1732 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1964.2933 (pause 0.61) 1964.8994 1733 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1964.8994 Nineteen, um 1966.2657 1734 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1966.2657 (pause 1.64) 1967.9012 1735 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1967.9012 ninety-five. 1968.9317 1736 VLD_int_01 1969.5472 So, you got remarried? 1970.4751 1737 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1970.6476 Uh-huh. 1971.1279 1738 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1971.1279 (pause 0.30) 1971.4263 1739 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1971.4263 Okay. 1971.7807 1740 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1971.7807 (pause 0.36) 1972.1398 1741 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1972.1398 [And I-] I was married to him ten years. /RD-NAME-3/. 1975.0343 1742 VLD_int_01 1972.1771 [So.] 1972.5178 1743 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1976.1580 And he died of a heart attack. 1978.2563 1744 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1978.2563 (pause 1.45) 1979.7022 1745 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1979.7022 And 1980.1359 1746 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1980.1359 (pause 1.63) 1981.7632 1747 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1981.7632 we got married in 1982.8812 1748 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1982.8812 (pause 0.70) 1983.5806 1749 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1983.5806 eighty-five and he died in ninety-five. 1986.2058 1750 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1986.2058 (pause 1.42) 1987.6280 1751 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1987.6280 [Mm-hm.] 1988.2482 1752 VLD_int_01 1988.1456 [So] how'd you meet him? 1989.0257 1753 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1990.0842 Church. 1990.8349 1754 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1990.8349 (pause 0.35) 1991.1893 1755 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1991.1893 [] 1993.2456 1756 VLD_int_01 1992.7514 [] 1993.2456 1757 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1993.8973 Sk- in church. 1995.3008 1758 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1995.3008 (pause 0.51) 1995.8137 1759 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1995.8137 And he was a pastor, different churches, so 1998.4389 1760 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1998.4389 (pause 0.73) 1999.1710 1761 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 1999.1710 we went around for a while and then I used to go to all these conventions where churches go 2003.9960 1762 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2003.9960 (pause 0.09) 2004.0892 1763 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2004.0892 to out of town 2005.4275 1764 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2005.4275 (pause 0.12) 2005.5487 1765 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2005.5487 and them things like that. 2006.8977 1766 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2006.8977 (pause 1.58) 2008.4737 1767 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2008.4737 But, that was a long time ago. 2010.3529 1768 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2010.3529 (pause 1.01) 2011.3636 1769 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2011.3636 And I attended a lot of state conventions and things with the hairdressers, and I went 2015.9099 1770 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2015.9099 (pause 0.08) 2015.9892 1771 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2015.9892 to, um, 2016.5709 1772 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2016.5709 (pause 0.73) 2017.2983 1773 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2017.2983 we used to have something called State Convention, then we had the national. 2021.0006 1774 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2021.0006 (pause 0.55) 2021.5462 1775 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2021.5462 We've been to Washington twice. 2023.5128 1776 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2023.5128 (pause 1.52) 2025.0282 1777 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2025.0282 And you get to, um, 2026.2453 1778 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2026.2453 (pause 0.94) 2027.1825 1779 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2027.1825 let me see, I got my- 2028.2911 1780 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2028.2911 (pause 1.61) 2029.8998 1781 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2029.8998 I was trying to look at my diplomas I got. I think I got this one in 2033.5835 1782 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2033.5835 (pause 2.79) 2036.3708 1783 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2036.3708 Miami. 2036.9723 1784 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2036.9723 (pause 1.37) 2038.3432 1785 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2038.3432 I got one in Washington at- 2040.0253 1786 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2040.0253 (pause 0.18) 2040.2025 1787 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2040.2025 But, I think this one says Detroit. 2042.6645 1788 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2042.6645 (pause 0.95) 2043.6111 1789 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2043.6111 And then I got my 2044.4877 1790 VLD_int_01 2047.6946 Oh, this is where Russell's Vanity Box comes 2050.6369 1791 VLD_int_01 2050.6369 (pause 0.09) 2050.7255 1792 VLD_int_01 2050.7255 from. [That's your] name before you got remarried. 2052.6688 1793 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2050.8608 [Mm-hm.] 2051.3177 1794 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2051.3177 (pause 1.35) 2052.6688 1795 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2052.6688 Yeah. 2052.9952 1796 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2053.2517 Mm-hm. 2053.5128 1797 VLD_int_01 2053.5128 Oh. [Okay.] 2054.5237 1798 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2054.3605 [Yeah.] That's i- so, I just kept it like. 2056.3236 1799 VLD_int_01 2056.4308 Mm-hm. 2057.1396 1800 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2057.5732 Everything's in Russell. And I had another one that. 2060.4258 1801 VLD_int_01 2060.4771 And this is- 2060.9946 1802 VLD_int_01 2060.9946 (pause 0.10) 2061.0926 1803 VLD_int_01 2061.0926 This your national 2062.2070 1804 VLD_int_01 2062.2070 (pause 0.17) 2062.3749 1805 VLD_int_01 2062.3749 from- 2062.6640 1806 VLD_int_01 2062.6640 (pause 0.21) 2062.8691 1807 VLD_int_01 2062.8691 for your- 2063.4380 1808 VLD_int_01 2063.4380 (pause 0.55) 2063.9929 1809 VLD_int_01 2063.9929 for beauty. 2064.6119 1810 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2064.7704 Mm-hm. Actually no, 2066.1134 1811 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2066.1134 (pause 0.12) 2066.2299 1812 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2066.2299 uh, beauty [/center/.] 2067.2744 1813 VLD_int_01 2066.8314 [And then] this one is. What's that one? The same? 2068.6546 1814 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2068.7153 [The same.] 2069.2795 1815 VLD_int_01 2068.7899 [That's no-/] 2069.1442 1816 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2069.3447 [Mm-hm.] 2069.9976 1817 VLD_int_01 2069.3447 [Mm-hm.] 2069.9976 1818 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2071.1948 This the one I got in Washington DC. 2073.4050 1819 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2073.4050 (pause 0.68) 2074.0811 1820 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2074.0811 After I got my doctor's 2075.9509 1821 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2075.9509 (pause 0.90) 2076.8544 1822 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2076.8544 I got one when I was in Maine. 2079.0226 1823 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2079.0226 (pause 0.63) 2079.6521 1824 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2079.6521 So, I did that for about 2080.8365 1825 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2080.8365 (pause 0.11) 2080.9437 1826 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2080.9437 twelve years. [Every] 2082.4813 1827 VLD_int_01 2082.0011 [And you] went [around and.] 2083.1015 1828 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2082.9290 [Mm-hm.] Til I 2083.9222 1829 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2084.2779 finished and got the doctors. 2086.0219 1830 VLD_int_01 2087.9139 Now, which convent- now, okay. So, you traveled a lot, you met your husband in church, your- 2092.1757 1831 VLD_int_01 2092.1757 (pause 0.11) 2092.2830 1832 VLD_int_01 2092.2830 your 2092.4835 1833 VLD_int_01 2092.4835 (pause 0.10) 2092.5814 1834 VLD_int_01 2092.5814 second husband in church. 2093.8159 1835 VLD_int_01 2093.8159 (pause 1.11) 2094.9304 1836 VLD_int_01 2094.9304 And you got to travel in all these places. What was your favorite place? 2097.4623 1837 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2099.0932 I- I think we went to Chicago. 2100.8324 1838 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2100.8324 (pause 0.33) 2101.1588 1839 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2101.1588 I liked Co- Chicago. We went in State Convention in Chicago. 2105.0757 1840 VLD_int_01 2106.0024 Why? What made Chicago so? 2107.5785 1841 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2108.3712 Uh. 2108.5764 1842 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2108.5764 (pause 0.31) 2108.8841 1843 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2108.8841 Well, when we- we always had a- 2111.1456 1844 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2111.1456 (pause 2.08) 2113.2241 1845 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2113.2241 what we call it. When the last day, we have like a 2115.9659 1846 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2115.9659 (pause 0.12) 2116.0825 1847 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2116.0825 tour of the city. 2117.2750 1848 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2117.2750 (pause 0.54) 2117.8159 1849 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2117.8159 And I just liked Chicago. 2119.3500 1850 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2119.3500 (pause 0.54) 2119.8922 1851 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2119.8922 And they k- had us on a boat ride. 2121.8680 1852 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2121.8680 (pause 0.99) 2122.8565 1853 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2122.8565 I didn't 2123.3217 1854 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2123.3217 (pause 0.16) 2123.4802 1855 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2123.4802 care too much about that (laughing) 2125.0423 1856 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2125.0423 (pause 0.39) 2125.4340 1857 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2125.4340 but, I did like it. 2127.3178 1858 VLD_int_01 2127.4297 You said, I don't need to be on this [boat.] 2128.9319 1859 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2128.6747 [Mm-mm]. I don't really like this. 2130.2309 1860 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2130.7998 I likeded Michigan too. Detroit, Michigan was 2133.8447 1861 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2133.8447 (pause 0.11) 2133.9519 1862 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2133.9519 pretty good. And Miami, was rough, I didn't like that. 2136.9770 1863 VLD_int_01 2137.1822 Why was it rough? 2137.8443 1864 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2139.3178 Oh, the- the- the housing 2141.5082 1865 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2141.5082 (pause 0.25) 2141.7600 1866 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2141.7600 place, the hotels and all wasn't 2143.7044 1867 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2143.7044 (pause 1.15) 2144.8515 1868 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2144.8515 like we usually have. 2146.1944 1869 VLD_int_01 2146.2877 Mm. Mm-hm. 2147.2424 1870 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2149.7184 Yeah. 2150.0868 1871 VLD_int_01 2150.0868 So, if you could go- 2151.0054 1872 VLD_int_01 2151.0054 (pause 0.09) 2151.0986 1873 VLD_int_01 2151.0986 Where's some place that you want to go that you've never been? 2153.5501 1874 VLD_int_01 2153.5501 (pause 1.95) 2155.4992 1875 VLD_int_01 2155.4992 Anywhere in the world? 2156.4645 1876 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2157.6442 I really want to go 2159.2902 1877 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2159.2902 (pause 0.12) 2159.4056 1878 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2159.4056 to um, 2160.0397 1879 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2160.0397 (pause 2.41) 2162.4505 1880 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2162.4505 uh, Vegas. 2163.4437 1881 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2163.4437 (pause 2.49) 2165.9325 1882 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2165.9325 Yeah. 2166.3848 1883 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2166.3848 (pause 0.17) 2166.5573 1884 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2166.5573 Vegas. 2167.1029 1885 VLD_int_01 2167.8723 Mkay. 2168.3059 1886 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2168.3992 [Mm-hm.] 2168.8375 1887 VLD_int_01 2168.6463 [Well,] 2168.8375 1888 VLD_int_01 2168.9541 why do you wanna go to [Vegas?] 2170.1478 1889 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2169.9286 [I] just wanna go there. 2171.2657 1890 VLD_int_01 2171.3869 See it all? 2172.1097 1891 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2172.1470 And see it all 2174.1847 1892 VLD_int_01 2174.5437 And why- and so 2175.4623 1893 VLD_int_01 2175.4623 (pause 0.11) 2175.5696 1894 VLD_int_01 2175.5696 when you going? When you booking your flight? When you going? 2177.7367 1895 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2179.0703 I 2179.3407 1896 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2179.3407 (pause 0.10) 2179.4386 1897 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2179.4386 probably won't make it this time. [] 2183.7320 1898 VLD_int_01 2182.4555 [] 2183.9885 1899 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2184.5853 2185.4759 1900 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2185.4759 (pause 0.39) 2185.8629 1901 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2185.8629 I can't travel like I used to. Then, them airports and things, it's just a little too rough for me. Cause the last time, my s- 2192.3063 1902 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2192.3063 (pause 0.33) 2192.6327 1903 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2192.6327 sister and brother lives in Rochester, New York. 2195.4398 1904 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2195.4398 (pause 2.18) 2197.6208 1905 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2197.6208 And I went there about two years ago. 2199.4813 1906 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2199.4813 (pause 1.54) 2201.0201 1907 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2201.0201 And I had to have me a wheel chair from here 2203.4017 1908 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2203.4017 (pause 0.10) 2203.5043 1909 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2203.5043 to Atlanta 2204.5674 1910 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2204.5674 (pause 0.83) 2205.3927 1911 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2205.3927 And they had to push me around everywhere where I can't walk like I used to. 2208.9541 1912 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2208.9541 (pause 1.11) 2210.0685 1913 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2210.0685 It's the travel, it too fast [for me.] 2212.2507 1914 VLD_int_01 2211.8576 [Mm-hm.] 2212.2507 1915 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2212.4233 So, 2212.8196 1916 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2212.8196 (pause 0.47) 2213.2859 1917 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2213.2859 that's one reason I don't 2214.4411 1918 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2214.4411 (pause 0.33) 2214.7675 1919 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2214.7675 care about going. 2215.5602 1920 VLD_int_01 2216.4555 Oh, and Vegas is busy. 2217.8777 1921 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2217.8963 Mm. Yeah. It's [busy.] 2219.1647 1922 VLD_int_01 2219.0201 [It's] busy. 2219.8454 1923 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2220.6370 And then I- I've been to Houston. Ma- that's where my son is in Houston. 2224.9968 1924 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2224.9968 (pause 0.56) 2225.5563 1925 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2225.5563 And it's so big 2226.5810 1926 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2226.5810 (pause 0.09) 2226.6696 1927 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2226.6696 too, but. 2227.6115 1928 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2227.6115 (pause 2.46) 2230.0735 1929 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2230.0735 Mm-mm. 2230.5072 1930 VLD_int_01 2232.7442 You like- 2233.0380 1931 VLD_int_01 2233.0380 (pause 0.28) 2233.3224 1932 VLD_int_01 2233.3224 you like TV. 2234.0778 1933 VLD_int_01 2234.0778 (pause 0.19) 2234.2643 1934 VLD_int_01 2234.2643 Most of the time I'm here. Well, you [usually have the TV on.] 2236.0549 1935 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2235.3461 [Oh yeah. ] I just 2236.4372 1936 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2236.5352 [turn it on. ] 2238.0961 1937 VLD_int_01 2236.9082 [] 2237.8641 1938 VLD_int_01 2238.1940 What's your favorite 2238.9960 1939 VLD_int_01 2238.9960 (pause 0.19) 2239.1825 1940 VLD_int_01 2239.1825 TV? 2239.5369 1941 VLD_int_01 2239.5369 (pause 0.10) 2239.6395 1942 VLD_int_01 2239.6395 Mm. 2239.9239 1943 VLD_int_01 2239.9239 (pause 0.08) 2240.0079 1944 VLD_int_01 2240.0079 Mm-mm. Tell me about the first time you remember getting a TV. 2242.8616 1945 VLD_int_01 2242.8616 (pause 2.92) 2245.7844 1946 VLD_int_01 2245.7844 How old were you? 2246.9223 1947 VLD_int_01 2246.9223 (pause 0.11) 2247.0333 1948 VLD_int_01 2247.0333 What it at your 2247.4867 1949 VLD_int_01 2247.4867 (pause 0.18) 2247.6671 1950 VLD_int_01 2247.6671 parents house? Did you have. Were you out on your own? 2249.8364 1951 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2251.5670 Mm. An- and cause when I was in Tampa, 2253.9030 1952 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2253.9030 (pause 2.46) 2256.3644 1953 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2256.3644 we have TVs. 2257.8076 1954 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2257.8076 (pause 1.98) 2259.7827 1955 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2259.7827 I don't think we had 2260.5413 1956 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2260.5413 (pause 0.16) 2260.6986 1957 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2260.6986 te- 2260.9576 1958 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2260.9576 (pause 0.86) 2261.8226 1959 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2261.8226 TVs back then in the sixties. 2263.7903 1960 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2263.7903 (pause 2.44) 2266.2306 1961 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2266.2306 Cause I believe the 2266.9244 1962 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2266.9244 (pause 0.15) 2267.0771 1963 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2267.0771 first TV I got it was in sixty-f- 2269.7367 1964 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2269.7367 (pause 0.78) 2270.5206 1965 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2270.5206 two. 2271.0017 1966 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2271.0017 (pause 0.14) 2271.1451 1967 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2271.1451 Cause I had one when I was in the project. 2273.1757 1968 VLD_int_01 2273.4486 Mm-hm. 2273.8140 1969 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2274.4385 So, it must have been in sixty-two. 2276.2338 1970 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2276.2338 (pause 0.41) 2276.6409 1971 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2276.6409 Somewhere like that. 2277.6585 1972 VLD_int_01 2277.7002 Was it black and white? 2278.5281 1973 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2278.9722 Black and white. 2279.9621 1974 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2279.9621 (pause 0.51) 2280.4709 1975 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2280.4709 Oh, it was a long time before they put any col- (laughing) [] 2283.8482 1976 VLD_int_01 2282.9138 ] 2284.8750 1977 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2285.8927 2286.3784 1978 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2286.3784 (pause 0.56) 2286.9380 1979 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2286.9380 Long time. 2287.8869 1980 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2287.8869 (pause 0.22) 2288.1043 1981 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2288.1043 And we had these little TVs like that one (laughing) right up there, you know. 2291.6938 1982 VLD_int_01 2291.7585 [Mm-hm.] 2292.2396 1983 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2292.0499 [And] 2292.4061 1984 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2292.5171 You know where the big screen. I guess we'd 2294.7427 1985 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2294.7427 (pause 0.22) 2294.9601 1986 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2294.9601 thought we was in the movies if we had had one of those. 2298.2396 1987 VLD_int_01 2298.5310 And you could only watch certain TV programs? 2300.6825 1988 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2301.2515 Cause I don't believe they had but two stations on there, it was um, 2304.9057 1989 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2304.9057 (pause 1.07) 2305.9794 1990 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2305.9794 CBS and NBC. 2307.7279 1991 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2307.7279 (pause 0.82) 2308.5481 1992 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2308.5481 You know. 2309.0338 1993 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2309.0338 (pause 0.51) 2309.5426 1994 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2309.5426 Yeah, it was just two. 2310.6158 1995 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2310.6158 (pause 0.60) 2311.2122 1996 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2311.2122 All we had six and ten. 2312.6979 1997 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2312.6979 (pause 0.24) 2312.9385 1998 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2312.9385 That's was it was in this day a six and [] 2315.2651 1999 VLD_int_01 2314.9367 ] 2316.9858 2000 VLD_int_01 2317.4814 And, [think] as much as they changed, they stayed the same. 2319.6092 2001 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2317.6797 [No.] 2318.1429 2002 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2319.7664 They still the same. 2320.8719 2003 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2320.8719 (pause 0.18) 2321.0523 2004 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2321.0523 Mm-hm. 2321.5935 2005 VLD_int_01 2321.5935 So, what'd you watch back then? 2323.0598 2006 VLD_int_01 2323.0598 (pause 1.92) 2324.9847 2007 VLD_int_01 2324.9847 Or, what do you remember watching? 2326.0532 2008 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2326.4973 Well, w- tha- w- 2327.1633 2009 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2327.1633 (pause 0.35) 2327.5149 2010 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2327.5149 During that time, the soap operas had just started good. 2331.0402 2011 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2331.0402 (pause 0.32) 2331.3640 2012 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2331.3640 So, we watched those soap operas from twelve to four every day. 2334.8471 2013 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2334.8471 (pause 0.14) 2334.9858 2014 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2334.9858 [] 2335.7259 2015 VLD_int_01 2335.4623 [What was] your favorite? 2336.3272 2016 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2336.3926 Love of Life, and Guiding Light 2338.6545 2017 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2338.6545 (pause 0.46) 2339.1125 2018 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2339.1125 and took all them off now. Search for Tomorrow. 2341.8369 2019 VLD_int_01 2342.9477 Guiding Light ain't on no more? 2344.0255 2020 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2344.0255 Mm-mm. 2344.6869 2021 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2345.3622 They stayed on seventy-five years. 2347.3929 2022 VLD_int_01 2348.2531 Mm. 2348.6803 2023 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2348.6803 And they finally took that off. And Search for Tomorrow. 2351.7239 2024 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2352.0807 And As the World [Turns.] 2353.8847 2025 VLD_int_01 2353.6765 [Mm.] 2353.8847 2026 VLD_int_01 2354.1576 That one's gone too? 2354.9948 2027 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2354.9948 Mm-hm. 2355.4990 2028 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2356.0263 They all are. 2356.5629 2029 VLD_int_01 2356.9607 Clearly, I don't keep up with the [soap operas.] 2358.6562 2030 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2358.0391 [And so, they don't] have anything now but Young and Restless. 2361.4296 2031 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2363.8118 Young and Restless and 2365.2973 2032 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2365.2973 (pause 0.92) 2366.2176 2033 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2366.2176 Hospital. And never watched that Hospital. 2369.1688 2034 VLD_int_01 2370.6080 Bold and Beautiful? [/inaudible/] 2371.5979 2035 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2371.2371 [Bold and] Beautiful. 2372.2964 2036 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2372.4028 Them the only 2373.0180 2037 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2373.0180 (pause 0.10) 2373.1151 2038 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2373.1151 two, three they got on that I know of. 2375.0763 2039 VLD_int_01 2375.8951 Mm. 2376.4091 2040 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2376.4415 Mm-mm. 2376.9827 2041 VLD_int_01 2377.6627 So. 2378.3750 2042 VLD_int_01 2378.3750 (pause 0.17) 2378.5462 2043 VLD_int_01 2378.5462 You used to, oh so. 2379.5730 2044 VLD_int_01 2379.5730 (pause 0.08) 2379.6517 2045 VLD_int_01 2379.6517 Did the so- 2380.0726 2046 VLD_int_01 2380.0726 (pause 0.17) 2380.2391 2047 VLD_int_01 2380.2391 Did you. So, you used to watch the soap [operas, and then you sti-] did you watch 'em like 2383.3805 2048 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2381.5065 [Mm-hm.] 2382.1779 2049 VLD_int_01 2383.6627 as you got older? As the TV [kind of-] 2385.5083 2050 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2385.3649 [Mm-hm.] 2385.9338 2051 VLD_int_01 2385.7118 [So,] how did it change? How did the 2387.0717 2052 VLD_int_01 2387.1781 progra- did it get better? Was it like more complicated? 2390.2224 2053 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2391.6794 It's more complicated. 2393.0486 2054 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2393.0486 (pause 0.25) 2393.2984 2055 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2393.2984 2395.2741 2056 VLD_int_01 2395.4776 Cause Mr.Newman. 2396.4305 2057 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2396.6664 [Uh-huh.] 2397.2816 2058 VLD_int_01 2396.7127 [Is like fifty-five and still.] 2398.5675 2059 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2397.3926 [All that /?/-] 2398.2437 2060 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2398.6508 Uh-huh, still doing all that crazy stuff. No I di- [] 2403.1706 2061 VLD_int_01 2402.5493 [] 2403.7488 2062 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2404.3409 Woo. No. 2405.5805 2063 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2405.5805 (pause 1.39) 2406.9713 2064 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2406.9713 And i- and a- and I don't worry about it like I used to, you know. 2410.4550 2065 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2410.4550 (pause 0.41) 2410.8667 2066 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2410.8667 It used to be a time t- 2412.1109 2067 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2412.1109 (pause 0.30) 2412.4070 2068 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2412.4070 twelve o'clock, we gonna turn that TV on you know, to watch 2415.5345 2069 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2415.5345 (pause 0.10) 2415.6316 2070 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2415.6316 l- Love of Life 2416.6863 2071 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2416.6863 (pause 0.34) 2417.0286 2072 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2417.0286 but now, it don't make no difference. (laughing) 2419.8323 2073 VLD_int_01 2420.3689 [If it's on, it's on.] 2421.3819 2074 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2420.5215 [If i- if it's] on, it's on, you know. 2422.6631 2075 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2423.2321 And I used to have some customer 2425.2257 2076 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2425.2257 (pause 0.72) 2425.9433 2077 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2425.9433 and they wouldn't come when the 2427.8398 2078 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2427.8398 (pause 0.15) 2427.9878 2079 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2427.9878 soap operas on, cause they wanna 2429.9814 2080 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2429.9814 (pause 0.43) 2430.4162 2081 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2430.4162 watch when they wanna watch it, you know.[] 2433.0211 2082 VLD_int_01 2432.5816 [] 2433.6918 2083 VLD_int_01 2434.3394 [So, they'd wait.] 2435.1350 2084 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2434.4134 [When they -] 2435.1350 2085 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2435.3292 uh-huh. Yeah. 2436.2405 2086 VLD_int_01 2436.3105 Hm. 2436.5464 2087 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2436.5464 Mm-mm. Mm. 2437.2541 2088 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2438.4197 Yeah, then you got some that come in here, they don't walk, so why- they wanna talk. 2442.7585 2089 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2442.7585 (pause 0.72) 2443.4761 2090 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2443.4761 And then you got some wanna [watch TV s-] 2445.8907 2091 VLD_int_01 2445.2801 [] 2446.5938 2092 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2446.3116 [] 2446.5706 2093 VLD_int_01 2446.8805 You can't have them here together? 2447.9443 2094 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2447.8982 No, you can't have them toge- together. 2450.2301 2095 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2450.8175 And you'll say, were they watching soap o- I don't like soap opera. 2453.9907 2096 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2453.9907 (pause 0.49) 2454.4810 2097 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2454.4810 Well, you need to hush. [You know (laughing)] 2456.3928 2098 VLD_int_01 2455.8562 [] 2458.0256 2099 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2456.5732 [That. ] 2458.0256 2100 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2458.7194 You know, you ain't home. [] 2460.9860 2101 VLD_int_01 2460.6529 [Right.] 2460.9860 2102 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2461.8371 But, 2462.0690 2103 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2462.0690 (pause 0.08) 2462.1523 2104 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2462.1523 you- you go through a lots with this /??/. 2464.6454 2105 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2464.6454 (pause 0.90) 2465.5474 2106 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2465.5474 Mm. 2465.7278 2107 VLD_int_01 2466.2366 [Really?] 2466.5003 2108 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2466.2783 [Attitudes.] 2467.3468 2109 VLD_int_01 2467.4717 A. 2467.6659 2110 VLD_int_01 2467.6659 (pause 0.47) 2468.1384 2111 VLD_int_01 2468.1384 Oh, I can [imagine.] 2468.9974 2112 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2468.7490 [You] have to learn them. 2469.8961 2113 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2470.3355 Their attitudes. 2471.3902 2114 VLD_int_01 2472.6067 So, how long- 2473.1941 2115 VLD_int_01 2473.1941 (pause 0.10) 2473.2959 2116 VLD_int_01 2473.2959 So, most of your customers you've had for a really long time right? 2475.5075 2117 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2475.5862 Oh yeah. 2476.0164 2118 VLD_int_01 2476.2615 So, who's your customer that you've had for the longest? 2478.5697 2119 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2481.1329 You know what, all my older customers about dead. 2484.1626 2120 VLD_int_01 2484.4864 Mm. 2484.8056 2121 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2484.8056 Mm-hm. 2485.2358 2122 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2485.5133 Really is. 2486.2031 2123 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2486.2031 (pause 2.23) 2488.4327 2124 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2488.4327 Really. And 2489.2236 2125 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2489.2236 (pause 0.80) 2490.0285 2126 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2490.0285 I got one lady. Ninety-seven. 2491.9996 2127 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2491.9996 (pause 0.85) 2492.8507 2128 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2492.8507 and she's been coming a g- 2494.3216 2129 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2494.3216 (pause 0.92) 2495.2421 2130 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2495.2421 oh, 2495.8620 2131 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2495.8620 (pause 2.23) 2498.0875 2132 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2498.0875 I know I've been doing her hair about twenty years. 2500.5946 2133 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2500.5946 (pause 2.43) 2503.0230 2134 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2503.0230 Yeah, she ninety-seven. Mrs., uh, 2505.2485 2135 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2505.2485 (pause 0.52) 2505.7666 2136 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2505.7666 /RD-NAME-3/ out here. 2507.0849 2137 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2507.0849 (pause 1.86) 2508.9496 2138 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2508.9496 Yeah, but the rest of 'em is gone. 2510.6009 2139 VLD_int_01 2511.6186 Now, what do you do to keep yourself active and 2514.1395 2140 VLD_int_01 2514.1395 (pause 0.31) 2514.4540 2141 VLD_int_01 2514.4540 beyond just doing hair. Cause I know you don't 2516.0875 2142 VLD_int_01 2516.0875 (pause 0.29) 2516.3743 2143 VLD_int_01 2516.3743 be in the shop all day. 2517.3734 2144 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2517.9470 I go to 2518.6362 2145 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2518.6362 (pause 0.67) 2519.3023 2146 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2519.3023 a chair aerobics 2520.4910 2147 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2520.4910 (pause 0.25) 2520.7454 2148 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2520.7454 every Monday and Wednesday. 2522.9062 2149 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2522.9062 (pause 0.80) 2523.7018 2150 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2523.7018 [For an hour.] 2524.5390 2151 VLD_int_01 2523.7018 [/inaudible/] 2524.5390 2152 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2524.8675 Mm-hm. 2525.4919 2153 VLD_int_01 2525.5017 Mm-hm. 2526.0109 2154 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2527.1571 And I was going to cha- um, 2529.1190 2155 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2529.1190 (pause 0.46) 2529.5769 2156 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2529.5769 water aerobics once, 2531.0386 2157 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2531.0386 (pause 0.14) 2531.1820 2158 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2531.1820 but when it got cold, I had this allergy. I couldn't stand that chlorine 2534.8785 2159 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2534.8785 (pause 0.71) 2535.5862 2160 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2535.5862 in that water. 2536.2985 2161 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2536.2985 (pause 0.65) 2536.9507 2162 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2536.9507 So, I had to let that alone. 2538.5234 2163 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2538.5234 (pause 0.59) 2539.1109 2164 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2539.1109 But, 2539.4254 2165 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2539.4254 (pause 0.86) 2540.2818 2166 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2540.2818 I stay active. 2541.2439 2167 VLD_int_01 2543.0016 So, when you're not at the shop, what does your typical day look like? So, you go to aerobics, what else do you do? 2547.2208 2168 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2548.2569 Mostly go shopping, gl- just looking in the store. 2551.5642 2169 VLD_int_01 2551.6897 2552.2771 2170 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2552.9571 Don't (laughing) buy nothing. 2553.8267 2171 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2553.8267 (pause 0.78) 2554.6084 2172 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2554.6084 Oh, and I go to Bible study, on Wednesday f- 2557.7816 2173 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2557.7816 (pause 0.22) 2557.9996 2174 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2557.9996 from 2558.3280 2175 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2558.3280 (pause 0.37) 2558.6934 2176 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2558.6934 twelve to one. I go to a mission meeting every Monday from 2562.7824 2177 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2562.7824 (pause 1.01) 2563.7954 2178 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2563.7954 four to five or six. 2566.0811 2179 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2566.0811 (pause 2.24) 2568.3199 2180 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2568.3199 Sunday school and 2569.5093 2181 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2569.5093 (pause 0.08) 2569.5879 2182 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2569.5879 and church, that's it. 2570.7952 2183 VLD_int_01 2572.4882 So, let me ask you this, 2573.6769 2184 VLD_int_01 2573.6769 (pause 1.12) 2574.7963 2185 VLD_int_01 2574.7963 thinking about just kind of, you've seen a lot of things, you've been through a lot. 2578.2615 2186 VLD_int_01 2578.2615 (pause 0.57) 2578.8305 2187 VLD_int_01 2578.8305 Um. Has there ever been a time you were like, oh my god, I'm about to die? For whatever reason. Something was going on, or you were somewhere, 2584.6778 2188 VLD_int_01 2584.6778 (pause 0.30) 2584.9739 2189 VLD_int_01 2584.9739 and you were like, oh my god, I might die right now. 2586.7103 2190 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2586.7131 Mm-hm. 2587.0785 2191 VLD_int_01 2590.4015 Or something just really scared you or. 2592.2933 2192 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2593.4041 Mm. 2593.6030 2193 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2593.6030 (pause 0.52) 2594.1211 2194 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2594.1211 Well, I got sick in 2595.3885 2195 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2595.3885 (pause 0.24) 2595.6290 2196 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2595.6290 two thousand seven. 2597.2063 2197 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2597.2063 (pause 1.70) 2598.9092 2198 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2598.9092 I had um, 2599.7001 2199 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2599.7001 (pause 0.90) 2600.5975 2200 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2600.5975 I went in for a colonoscopy. 2602.3972 2201 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2602.3972 (pause 0.74) 2603.1323 2202 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2603.1323 I. 2603.4191 2203 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2603.4191 (pause 0.29) 2603.7059 2204 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2603.7059 They found out I had 2605.0109 2205 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2605.0109 (pause 0.49) 2605.4966 2206 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2605.4966 um, 2606.0471 2207 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2606.0471 (pause 0.60) 2606.6438 2208 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2606.6438 what you call them? 2607.3885 2209 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2607.3885 (pause 1.08) 2608.4709 2210 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2608.4709 Polyps. 2609.1416 2211 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2609.1416 (pause 1.00) 2610.1460 2212 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2610.1460 So, I went in the hospital to get the polyps out, 2612.7224 2213 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2612.7224 (pause 1.47) 2614.1887 2214 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2614.1887 and when they 2615.0306 2215 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2615.0306 (pause 0.11) 2615.1416 2216 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2615.1416 found cancer, I had 2616.3264 2217 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2616.3264 (pause 0.07) 2616.4004 2218 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2616.4004 cancer on the colon. 2617.6400 2219 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2617.6400 (pause 0.53) 2618.1720 2220 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2618.1720 So, they cut it. 2619.0739 2221 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2619.0739 (pause 0.90) 2619.9759 2222 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2619.9759 And my doctor 2620.8363 2223 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2620.8363 (pause 0.07) 2620.9057 2224 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2620.9057 cut it too short. 2622.2332 2225 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2622.2332 (pause 1.00) 2623.2330 2226 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2623.2330 And they 2623.6261 2227 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2623.6261 (pause 0.10) 2623.7233 2228 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2623.7233 put it back together the wrong way 2626.0407 2229 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2626.0407 (pause 0.34) 2626.3783 2230 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2626.3783 in my stomach. 2627.1647 2231 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2627.1647 (pause 1.33) 2628.4929 2232 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2628.4929 So, I had to end up having surgery 2630.8982 2233 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2630.8982 (pause 0.97) 2631.8649 2234 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2631.8649 for them to turn it right round. 2633.7105 2235 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2633.7105 (pause 0.46) 2634.1684 2236 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2634.1684 So, I stayed in the hospital off and on for six months. 2636.6993 2237 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2636.6993 (pause 0.74) 2637.4440 2238 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2637.4440 Over ni- 2637.9158 2239 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2637.9158 (pause 0.08) 2637.9991 2240 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2637.9991 over and over. And I really thought I was gonna die then. 2640.5854 2241 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2640.5854 (pause 1.75) 2642.3385 2242 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2642.3385 Cause they did so many wrong things. And how- why I say they're wrong because t- 2646.8305 2243 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2646.8305 (pause 0.49) 2647.3162 2244 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2647.3162 the other doctors told me about what the other doctor had did and it was wrong. 2651.7013 2245 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2651.7013 (pause 1.15) 2652.8490 2246 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2652.8490 So, I went over to 2654.0193 2247 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2654.0193 (pause 0.19) 2654.2136 2248 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2654.2136 you remember 2654.8010 2249 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2654.8010 (pause 0.21) 2655.0138 2250 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2655.0138 came to visit me to over there in Quitman? 2657.2248 2251 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2657.2248 (pause 0.88) 2658.1083 2252 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2658.1083 And I was over there for 2659.0063 2253 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2659.0063 (pause 0.16) 2659.1636 2254 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2659.1636 three weeks. They called it a swing bed instead of the nursing home. 2663.4839 2255 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2663.4839 (pause 1.30) 2664.7858 2256 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2664.7858 And they had um, 2665.7710 2257 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2665.7710 (pause 0.53) 2666.2984 2258 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2666.2984 turned my colon upside-down. 2668.4354 2259 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2668.4354 (pause 0.44) 2668.8794 2260 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2668.8794 And I- 2669.2402 2261 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2669.2402 (pause 0.17) 2669.4114 2262 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2669.4114 my urine was coming out of my mouth instead of 2672.0116 2263 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2672.0116 (pause 1.75) 2673.7600 2264 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2673.7600 your rectum. 2674.5279 2265 VLD_int_01 2675.1662 Mm. 2675.6241 2266 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2675.8514 And 2676.1937 2267 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2676.1937 (pause 0.49) 2676.6794 2268 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2676.6794 I just laid there for a while and I just- 2678.7239 2269 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2678.7239 (pause 0.14) 2678.8627 2270 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2678.8627 just aksed to die. 2679.9959 2271 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2679.9959 (pause 1.20) 2681.1940 2272 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2681.1940 Cause I was just so sick and wasn't nothing they doing 2684.1041 2273 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2684.1041 (pause 0.09) 2684.1920 2274 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2684.1920 to- 2684.4418 2275 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2684.4418 (pause 0.28) 2684.7260 2276 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2684.7260 to straighten it out. And it lasted about six months. I had to wear a colostomy on the side 2690.1365 2277 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2690.1365 (pause 1.19) 2691.3299 2278 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2691.3299 for three months. 2692.4770 2279 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2692.4770 (pause 0.70) 2693.1801 2280 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2693.1801 No. It was longer than that. About four or five month. 2695.8219 2281 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2695.8219 (pause 1.59) 2697.4131 2282 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2697.4131 Well I s- 2697.8757 2283 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2697.8757 (pause 0.20) 2698.0746 2284 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2698.0746 I wasn't working then. I didn't work for six months. 2700.6193 2285 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2700.6193 (pause 0.55) 2701.1651 2286 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2701.1651 It was in two thousand seven. 2702.6499 2287 VLD_int_01 2704.1763 So, they fixed everything? 2705.5501 2288 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2705.5501 Yeah, it's- it's better. 2706.8876 2289 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2707.3224 2708.1596 2290 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2708.1596 (pause 0.98) 2709.1356 2291 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2709.1356 But, it still ain't like it used to be, so I been 2711.7543 2292 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2711.7543 (pause 0.38) 2712.1336 2293 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2712.1336 just really going down, it look like 2714.1920 2294 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2714.1920 (pause 0.21) 2714.4001 2295 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2714.4001 ever [since] then, but other than that. 2716.2735 2296 VLD_int_01 2714.7983 [Since.] 2715.0089 2297 VLD_int_01 2718.2909 How did you meet my mom? 2719.3825 2298 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2720.5713 Her and /RD-NAME-2/ my 2721.5796 2299 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2721.5796 (pause 0.12) 2721.6999 2300 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2721.6999 youngest daughter [classmate.] 2723.4114 2301 VLD_int_01 2722.6296 [They went to school] that's right. 2723.9105 2302 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2723.9891 And /RD-NAME-2/ were 2724.6783 2303 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2724.6783 (pause 0.13) 2724.8124 2304 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2724.8124 /RD-NAME-2/ used to see each other. They was friend. My son. [She used to call] 2729.6375 2305 VLD_int_01 2728.8598 [Oh she used to hang out with my mom.] 2730.2030 2306 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2729.9208 [/RD-NAME-2/] 2730.4019 2307 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2730.4944 Uh-huh. [] 2731.3871 2308 VLD_int_01 2731.1050 [Oh.] 2731.8208 2309 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2732.1539 Yeah. 2732.7320 2310 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2732.7320 (pause 0.19) 2732.9217 2311 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2732.9217 You know. 2733.6479 2312 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2733.6479 (pause 0.98) 2734.6250 2313 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2734.6250 She started coming over here right after 2736.2261 2314 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2736.2261 (pause 0.15) 2736.3788 2315 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2736.3788 she'd finished high school. 2737.7525 2316 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2737.7525 (pause 1.84) 2739.5935 2317 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2739.5935 Yeah, cause /RD-NAME-2/ musta told, my mama fix hair. Something like that. 2743.2900 2318 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2743.2900 (pause 0.35) 2743.6415 2319 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2743.6415 And sh- sheriffs started coming over here. 2745.7369 2320 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2745.7369 (pause 0.74) 2746.4770 2321 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2746.4770 But, I used to do 2747.6010 2322 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2747.6010 (pause 1.80) 2749.3964 2323 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2749.3964 Uh. 2749.9191 2324 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2749.9191 (pause 0.38) 2750.2984 2325 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2750.2984 Her aunt's hair. Which one of 'em was it? 2752.6667 2326 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2752.6667 (pause 0.08) 2752.7453 2327 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2752.7453 That 2752.9997 2328 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2752.9997 (pause 0.99) 2753.9902 2329 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2753.9902 worked at the 2754.8644 2330 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2754.8644 (pause 0.68) 2755.5490 2331 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2755.5490 Walmart's as the greeter? 2757.1448 2332 VLD_int_01 2757.3622 Oh. 2757.7092 2333 VLD_int_01 2757.7092 (pause 0.34) 2758.0468 2334 VLD_int_01 2758.0468 Aunt /RD-NAME-2/. 2758.6389 2335 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2758.7393 Yeah, I used to do /RD-NAME-2/'s hair. 2760.4296 2336 VLD_int_01 2760.8829 Cause she wanted her bouffant. 2762.1781 2337 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2762.1781 Oh yeah. 2762.7332 2338 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2762.8719 Yeah. I. Yeah. I used to do /RD-NAME-2/'s hair in one. 2765.2263 2339 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2765.2263 (pause 2.74) 2767.9653 2340 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2767.9653 Um. 2768.2937 2341 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2768.2937 (pause 0.08) 2768.3770 2342 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2768.3770 The. What the other one name? 2769.5658 2343 VLD_int_01 2772.8274 The- 2773.0402 2344 VLD_int_01 2773.0402 (pause 0.68) 2773.7155 2345 VLD_int_01 2773.7155 Her older sister? 2774.5944 2346 VLD_int_01 2774.5944 (pause 1.07) 2775.6675 2347 VLD_int_01 2775.6675 Oh. That lived over 2776.7638 2348 VLD_int_01 2776.7638 (pause 1.02) 2777.7860 2349 VLD_int_01 2777.7860 on 2778.1382 2350 VLD_int_01 2778.1382 (pause 0.10) 2778.2400 2351 VLD_int_01 2778.2400 A- East. Uh. A. /RD-NAME-2/. 2779.7248 2352 VLD_int_01 2779.7248 (pause 0.43) 2780.1596 2353 VLD_int_01 2780.1596 /RD-NAME-3/? 2780.6453 2354 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2780.9644 Yeah. 2781.3206 2355 VLD_int_01 2781.3992 [Mm-hm.] 2781.8387 2356 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2781.6120 [Uh-huh. Yeah. 2782.2318 2357 VLD_int_01 2782.0283 [You used to do her hair too?] 2782.9072 2358 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2782.4955 [Yeah I] used to do /RD-NAME-3/. 2783.9341 2359 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2784.0550 Mm-hm. I 2784.6470 2360 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2784.6470 (pause 0.09) 2784.7395 2361 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2784.7395 couldn't think her name, but I know /RD-NAME-2/ cause /RD-NAME-2/ (laughing) 2787.2744 2362 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2787.2744 (pause 0.35) 2787.6213 2363 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2787.6213 she 2788.3660 2364 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2788.3660 (pause 0.52) 2788.8841 2365 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2788.8841 she- wasn't nobody no stranger to her. 2791.1651 2366 VLD_int_01 2791.3733 Mm-mm. 2791.8081 2367 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2791.8589 [Mm-mm.] 2792.2382 2368 VLD_int_01 2792.0810 [Mm-mm.] 2792.5666 2369 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2793.1957 [Mm.] 2793.6768 2370 VLD_int_01 2793.5658 [Cause] what'd she work at the hospital for a [long time.] 2795.9387 2371 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2795.3281 [A long] time. [Mm-hm.] 2797.1235 2372 VLD_int_01 2796.9384 [And then she retired.] 2797.8682 2373 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2797.3779 [Yeah, that's] where I met her. At the hospital. 2799.5334 2374 VLD_int_01 2799.7138 [Mm-hm.] 2800.3752 2375 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2800.1208 [Mm-hm.] 2800.5279 2376 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2801.4761 And she got that job out there, say cause said she couldn't just stay home and do nothing. [She.] 2805.8849 2377 VLD_int_01 2805.3021 [Mm-mm.] 2805.6860 2378 VLD_int_01 2806.1810 Drove her crazy. 2806.9164 2379 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2806.9164 Drove her crazy. And that was her, hum. 2808.9523 2380 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2809.3918 When she died, 2810.4880 2381 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2810.4880 (pause 0.29) 2810.7794 2382 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2810.7794 they put a sign up. 2812.1347 2383 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2812.1347 (pause 0.11) 2812.2411 2384 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2812.2411 Had a big old flyer way out there. And I said, now they really know what that said. [] 2816.2529 2385 VLD_int_01 2816.1511 [Mm-hm.] 2816.6877 2386 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2817.2289 She was a greeter. 2818.4917 2387 VLD_int_01 2818.8710 I remember that. I remember um. 2820.9016 2388 VLD_int_01 2820.9016 (pause 0.72) 2821.6238 2389 VLD_int_01 2821.6238 Cause she passed away in two thousand ten. 2823.6036 2390 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2823.7146 Mm-hm. 2824.4038 2391 VLD_int_01 2824.7137 So, my daughter has her- my daughter's middle name is Pearl. 2827.3509 2392 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2827.5359 Mm-hm. 2828.2159 2393 VLD_int_01 2828.2714 Um. 2828.6276 2394 VLD_int_01 2828.6276 (pause 0.88) 2829.5111 2395 VLD_int_01 2829.5111 2829.6267 2396 VLD_int_01 2829.6267 (pause 0.34) 2829.9644 2397 VLD_int_01 2829.9644 Because 2831.0421 2398 VLD_int_01 2831.0421 (pause 0.47) 2831.5139 2399 VLD_int_01 2831.5139 right around that time, I think I got pregnant. 2832.9346 2400 VLD_int_01 2832.9346 (pause 1.37) 2834.3084 2401 VLD_int_01 2834.3084 But, I rem- 2834.9097 2402 VLD_int_01 2834.9097 (pause 0.13) 2835.0392 2403 VLD_int_01 2835.0392 Yup. I just remember [everybody] 2836.4315 2404 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2835.9644 [Mm-hm.] 2836.4315 2405 VLD_int_01 2836.6562 at all /??/ you know everybody talked about the sweet potato [pies and] her being the greeter at Walmart. 2841.0029 2406 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2839.0133 [Mm-hm.] 2839.6377 2407 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2839.6377 (pause 1.36) 2841.0022 2408 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2841.0022 Yeah. 2841.4463 2409 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2841.7423 Mm-hm. 2842.4685 2410 VLD_int_01 2842.5518 Mm-hm. 2843.1069 2411 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2843.4075 Yes sir. 2844.6148 2412 VLD_int_01 2845.1123 So, you've known my mom a long [time.] 2847.0380 2413 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2846.5298 [Yeah.] Ever since she was out of high school. 2849.2063 2414 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2849.7472 [Before] she got out of high [school.] 2851.3372 2415 VLD_int_01 2849.8871 [Mm.] 2850.1435 2416 VLD_int_01 2850.1435 (pause 0.97) 2851.1088 2417 VLD_int_01 2851.1088 [And] how long has the little /RD-NAME-2/ been coming? 2853.6955 2418 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2854.0965 Huh? 2854.4369 2419 VLD_int_01 2854.6840 The little one. 2855.2296 2420 VLD_int_01 2855.2296 (pause 0.24) 2855.4721 2421 VLD_int_01 2855.4721 B- about a year now? 2856.5072 2422 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2856.5632 About a [year (laughing). ] 2858.2454 2423 VLD_int_01 2857.3699 [Off and on.] Mm-hm. 2858.8049 2424 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2859.1639 [Yeah.] 2859.5137 2425 VLD_int_01 2859.2712 [But at] first she wasn't trying to. 2860.4602 2426 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2860.5255 No, she wasn't trying to do nothing. 2862.2461 2427 VLD_int_01 2862.3627 [Mm-mm.] 2862.6798 2428 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2862.4355 [Mm-mm.] 2862.8523 2429 VLD_int_01 2862.8523 But, now she know that, she come and get her [hair done.] 2865.0987 2430 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2864.4039 [Mm-hm.] 2865.0241 2431 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2865.1546 [Mm-hm.] 2865.6769 2432 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2865.6769 (pause 0.41) 2866.0919 2433 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2866.0919 Yeah, cause /RD-NAME-2/ wanted to come in here one or two times and leave in. And I said, no you don't leave it in there the car. You bring her on in here. 2872.8193 2434 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2872.8193 (pause 0.41) 2873.2343 2435 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2873.2343 She ain't gonna bother me or you. 2875.9656 2436 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2875.9656 (pause 0.49) 2876.4598 2437 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2876.4598 Yeah, so I. 2877.6256 2438 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2877.6256 (pause 0.13) 2877.7561 2439 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2877.7561 So, I say, you bring her on in here. 2879.7938 2440 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2879.7938 (pause 0.15) 2879.9477 2441 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2879.9477 2880.3487 2442 VLD_int_01 2881.4165 N- Now she just does her little 2883.1686 2443 VLD_int_01 2883.1686 (pause 0.13) 2883.2945 2444 VLD_int_01 2883.2945 place she come and sit and [do her little] 2885.4441 2445 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2884.6561 [Mm-hm.] 2885.1084 2446 VLD_int_01 2886.0689 be her little woman self and 2887.5331 2447 VLD_int_01 2887.5331 (pause 0.28) 2887.8129 2448 VLD_int_01 2887.8129 get her little hair done. 2888.9728 2449 VLD_se0_ag4_f_02 2889.5883 Yes sir, she's a sweet child. 2891.7612